From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 3 13:49:32 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3C53FF964; Sat, 3 Sep 2016 13:49:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s2048; t=1472910570; bh=5JWvOOuJ1joWzIB9/xI49cYF5hwo9f9ESUyBWWBb6V4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:References:From:Subject; b=BopGZs9PrwwyK4ugyrrc0CkmdZ5s2dVw9+1GNSExH/Wj5B4iFycyDQ59a47XEuhyqPMFtcD1N9nIiOUCNWuN3XhGOk8PsbvQBu74ceOGlfrIGFKdfht0LQT3+I/MyjSWcw84yqmBkcmosfYlPT9efn82j8N2OXxI+BGWturhdhkH85E3B1LrPoDehUJMqbpLEYZGxu/b6xJ9jbDzhEnbIkuzH7IzbvYlWwxVPNpw7VyFZBIFPY3LNekKWpaYU05OsQdRLOz9L8b7SA2d10fWI+8gr4SpSj8yyI0r5bQJTzQDOtFH95ng9Kryai0i40+lIUumIhs4CRFl7X/Nn1w7PA== X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 469042.12145.bm@omp1004.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-YMail-OSG: Xl72j4EVM1noaJj3wCODNRiWJ.Cj1q4sX7u.QOtt8JkM.9G40ZlXwIL5XLeu2Wf rn8vR_7_F2EKHba11QeJfD10p.PXTAS3fS48Z6Um0vtkpHBW.N5M75DwGuBEbA7_60CEQGd37Pc6 jPLquxfYt5iJSQKXLxaPTW.8HMtRcTzUnORiJoTct03SNvMQD6vDL5mPuoCUjz6Zb2iNJ0Z2PsmV mtAKuwKAGBxcAmXGvEYI77PtI.hp_VRDkaVJztHG6MOhzoSpe.VYWYJb3rXoiyh7Pthy0alJ9cZ9 o_rtn7BGk0oiV90a1YIQk5B_sxtdTOlB2VxptiWUOWO6crc2fCTxpWjzTVl6qOLJiEaLbVK_ezV3 iQEYaDZSBAmrOoiugLJ8Kh19NgjaTiih6rjPFB6bLT86qbMHf0L8TUu4AtyIRu4wkayG_0ODh0cC gddnKVC.6yqV27L65HcGsFaVFpHwdfp5wF_kq1jcM0JVcziWl0uE1Eh0fZC5SY6GkBf5f7IORncg 89b8qcSSMsjf3xKvFIXdlZbq6bMonkBjgK2.5UQ-- Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 13:49:29 +0000 (UTC) From: Antony Hequet Reply-To: Antony Hequet To: Loopers-Delight Message-ID: <783597656.1382686.1472910569653@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: RC505 MIDI conrol MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1382685_679108013.1472910569652" References: <783597656.1382686.1472910569653.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125210 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 13:49:31 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_1382685_679108013.1472910569652 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hello, I have been looking at the manual of my RC505 and trying to figure out how to switch/select the recording track with a MIDI message; so far no luck. Does anyone know if this is possible or is this feature simply missing? Long time no see... Antony ------=_Part_1382685_679108013.1472910569652 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
hello,

I have been looking at the manual of my RC505 and trying to figure out how to switch/select the recording track with a MIDI message; so far no luck. Does anyone know if this is possible or is this feature simply missing?

Long time no see...

Antony
------=_Part_1382685_679108013.1472910569652-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 4 22:51:16 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 58A4FFF8CF; Sun, 4 Sep 2016 22:51:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Luca - Unguitar Subject: 64 bit alternative to Mobius Message-ID: <1b373317-57ab-94a4-e929-2301b900fb1d@unguitar.com> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 00:51:14 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125211 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 22:51:16 +0000 (UTC) My new audio environment is almost ready and it is based on Max Msp. It is a step up from Audiomulch, although I miss many of its good points and simple UI. One of the most important reasons for this change is the need to move to 64 bit, Audiomulch is still 32 bit and there's no chance to know about a possible time reference for the 64 bit update. It looks like the same is ( sadly) happening for Mobius so I need to check about possible alternative solutions. My system will probably be hosted by a mac but I'm open to adapt myself to any OS to get a functional audio system. Thanks for you advice, My best, Luca From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 4 23:53:18 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2EA12FF95B; Sun, 4 Sep 2016 23:53:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=MMuxxkTAxsmz5Mv/JHNcMkrzlyIU1nXvHPX7HhsNR5w=; b=xHojmppCZYANuirTgCl51frgC/6yCojDQRfgDrFMMVTgO7qB4AgbnVQb5dm5nWSbwN nvvsFVYAc4GgUFApf4gjC0wJNCWe/9T1q6haVFqNeA0U8hmxNRhepyh28B7Qk/kUEcqg ZKuluE3T1y6DZS354AS82URgUAIQPO8B302OCCl+RfDamS7llY+jedbEb7qBqZ5fbam1 fflo8wRuMEQF1GybXo2GnxbxACEwRMZuKBlwu+1FN5Ykrso+BFZO71BFT2QY8x8zboMU jF03FnrW2n9Lby6jJhhzaycZmtzy3z+gBD5DmqUoH/Rg8YdsU3O2oTlTfyNXnov0ssfb TMfw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=MMuxxkTAxsmz5Mv/JHNcMkrzlyIU1nXvHPX7HhsNR5w=; b=Hug5B6Qd4d1DqYZUtapp+xx0/l7ao75E5Qc9VH5PbrrZUa4I2o9OS72MC3O3V+IVbp IRuJnRsjaWhY0Fsxs+31wjGWHmtifIYEBvxSy4sA1ni+68Sq/4xZrLp1jcX+P67oNn6p hMc9eLJsbSZipqGFpbfvMX4MkM4z41CK6q5msubCg4qCceF2J82NKLND6r+we5CvcLCT B6yRtIg5u0ECsXb16PvbIssMcQISD80wrfmC/QA+KKahJDH+iGhAGn19PrbtmX/hzjY6 p0kQlp9AnfVlBUS5Wh/WEH12lZAZ9qDPawySMJ4nFcCXh63E4pKGSDDneZsw41JJl5zl oDHQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwO7t3w2HHKTavcTUq5bHJOagXTRZ9oa+qHwKD3CMPM0McLUK71l1iPk6ovBqOVILDHbJUggrUm/k31WPQ== X-Received: by 10.200.33.183 with SMTP id 52mr36517785qty.128.1473033197275; Sun, 04 Sep 2016 16:53:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1b373317-57ab-94a4-e929-2301b900fb1d@unguitar.com> References: <1b373317-57ab-94a4-e929-2301b900fb1d@unguitar.com> From: Per Boysen Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 01:53:16 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 64 bit alternative to Mobius To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125212 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 23:53:18 +0000 (UTC) Congratulations, Luca! Looking forward to hearing more about your new Max Msp based system. I still have my Mobius system at hand, it has been serving me well for almost an entire decade now. My pedalboard control banks with 7 banks X 10 switches hasn't changed much either - in total a fair 80 commands to juggle audio with. However, Mobius is not being used that frequently over here these days. I mostly loop on the FractalAudio AxeFxII amp-cab-mod/multi-processor. It offers two delay units and a looper that can be combined in many different ways. The challenge is that the designers have not thought about the possibility to use looping as part of an instrument, so many of my solutions for issues, where the FractalAudio initially can't do what you want it to do, must be solved in programming the Gordius Little Giant MIDI pedalboard. I like that system because there is no computer in it :-) I think the generally most important factor, in finding/designing/building, a good system for live looping performance is the interface. With a powerful yet simple interface, you might be able to create better music than if your interface offers more options. So your decision on how many control pedals to break out is kind of crucial for its "playability" but, of course, also a matter of your personal taste. I took a whole day off once to see if I could duplicate some EDP/Mobius functionality all withing Mainstage (Mac) and was amazed how far you can take that system by only using the native plugin Loopback! The technical side is easy; using groups to model "Multiply", "alternating stacked loops vs parallel loops" etc, but the real challenge is to design your own user interface. I think Mainstage has a problem in the fact that screen control objects can not be hidden away, so when setting up a complex routing (like if modelling some EDP functionality) your screen will become very cluttered by objects that are not your GUI. Plogue Bidule is another great software. I used it before Mainstage entered the market - and my Bidule looping setup was in fact almost the same as what the new Mainstage turned out to be. But Bidule was still better in sound patch switching, because you can set it up so that the app listens to the old patch and keeps its line open until its audio tail have faded out. That's till not possible in Mainstage (in MS you can choose a number of bars to keep the old line open, but there's no organically dynamic fix like Bidule's). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com www.boysen.se On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 12:51 AM, Luca - Unguitar wrote: > My new audio environment is almost ready and it is based on Max Msp. > It is a step up from Audiomulch, although I miss many of its good points and > simple UI. > > One of the most important reasons for this change is the need to move to 64 > bit, Audiomulch is still 32 bit and there's no chance to know about a > possible time reference for the 64 bit update. > > It looks like the same is ( sadly) happening for Mobius so I need to check > about possible alternative solutions. > > My system will probably be hosted by a mac but I'm open to adapt myself to > any OS to get a functional audio system. > > Thanks for you advice, > My best, > Luca > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 5 06:51:26 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20859FF964; Mon, 5 Sep 2016 06:51:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_58AA36A9-F93F-4BF5-ABF2-E0F1C0E952BC" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: 64 bit alternative to Mobius From: Philippe ollivier In-Reply-To: <1b373317-57ab-94a4-e929-2301b900fb1d@unguitar.com> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 08:51:19 +0200 Cc: luca@unguitar.com Message-Id: References: <1b373317-57ab-94a4-e929-2301b900fb1d@unguitar.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125213 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 06:51:26 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_58AA36A9-F93F-4BF5-ABF2-E0F1C0E952BC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Luca, If Max is your environment and you want to have a good UI to use your = patches and plugs, you can take a moment to try Logelloop = . In Logelloop, you can load your Max patches and use them in conjunction = with our loopers and native plugs. Logelloop also comes with a very good script editor that can be very = useful with Max patches. Logelloop works well in 64 bits. Best regards, Philippe -------------------------------------------------------- www.philippeollivier.com www.logelloop.com www.logellou.com -------------------------------------------------------- https://soundcloud.com/philippe-ollivier > Le 5 sept. 2016 =C3=A0 00:51, Luca - Unguitar a = =C3=A9crit : >=20 > My new audio environment is almost ready and it is based on Max Msp. > It is a step up from Audiomulch, although I miss many of its good = points and simple UI. >=20 > One of the most important reasons for this change is the need to move = to 64 bit, Audiomulch is still 32 bit and there's no chance to know = about a possible time reference for the 64 bit update. >=20 > It looks like the same is ( sadly) happening for Mobius so I need to = check about possible alternative solutions. >=20 > My system will probably be hosted by a mac but I'm open to adapt = myself to any OS to get a functional audio system. >=20 > Thanks for you advice, > My best, > Luca >=20 --Apple-Mail=_58AA36A9-F93F-4BF5-ABF2-E0F1C0E952BC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Hi Luca,
If Max is your environment and you = want to have a good UI to use your patches and plugs, you can take a = moment to try Logelloop.

In Logelloop, you can load your Max patches and use them in = conjunction with  our loopers and native plugs.
Logelloop also comes with a very good script editor that can = be very useful with Max patches.
Logelloop works = well in 64 bits.
Best regards,
Philippe

--------------------------------------------------------=
www.philippeollivier.com
www.logelloop.com
www.logellou.com
--------------------------------------------------------=
https://soundcloud.com/philippe-ollivier



Le 5 sept. 2016 =C3=A0 00:51, Luca - Unguitar <luca@unguitar.com> a = =C3=A9crit :

My new audio environment is almost ready and = it is based on Max Msp.
It is a step up from Audiomulch, = although I miss many of its good points and simple UI.

One of the most important reasons for this change is the need = to move to 64 bit, Audiomulch is still 32 bit and there's no chance to = know about a possible time reference for the 64 bit update.

It looks like the same is ( sadly) happening = for Mobius so I need to check about possible alternative solutions.

My system will probably be hosted by a mac but = I'm open to adapt myself to any OS to get a functional audio system.

Thanks for you advice,
My = best,
Luca


= --Apple-Mail=_58AA36A9-F93F-4BF5-ABF2-E0F1C0E952BC-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 5 21:58:34 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E331A14390C; Mon, 5 Sep 2016 21:58:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: 64 bit alternative to Mobius To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <1b373317-57ab-94a4-e929-2301b900fb1d@unguitar.com> From: Luca - Unguitar Message-ID: <4819c70c-a46e-725a-3bfd-6e53d472df8b@unguitar.com> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 23:58:31 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------9509C7D499E2DEECE9759215" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125214 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 21:58:34 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------9509C7D499E2DEECE9759215 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit thank you Philippe, I will test the demo asap, but I was looking for a plugin. It looks like a stand alone application that can host plugins instead. Will give it a try for sure though. thank you, Luca On 05/09/16 08:51, Philippe ollivier wrote: > Hi Luca, > If Max is your environment and you want to have a good UI to use your > patches and plugs, you can take a moment to try Logelloop > . > > In Logelloop, you can load your Max patches and use them in > conjunction with our loopers and native plugs. > Logelloop also comes with a very good script editor that can be very > useful with Max patches. > Logelloop works well in 64 bits. > Best regards, > Philippe > > -------------------------------------------------------- > www.philippeollivier.com > www.logelloop.com > www.logellou.com > -------------------------------------------------------- > https://soundcloud.com/philippe-ollivier > > > >> Le 5 sept. 2016 à 00:51, Luca - Unguitar > > a écrit : >> >> My new audio environment is almost ready and it is based on Max Msp. >> It is a step up from Audiomulch, although I miss many of its good >> points and simple UI. >> >> One of the most important reasons for this change is the need to move >> to 64 bit, Audiomulch is still 32 bit and there's no chance to know >> about a possible time reference for the 64 bit update. >> >> It looks like the same is ( sadly) happening for Mobius so I need to >> check about possible alternative solutions. >> >> My system will probably be hosted by a mac but I'm open to adapt >> myself to any OS to get a functional audio system. >> >> Thanks for you advice, >> My best, >> Luca >> > --------------9509C7D499E2DEECE9759215 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
thank you Philippe,

I will test the demo asap, but I was looking for a plugin.
It looks like a stand alone application that can host plugins instead.

Will give it a try for sure though.

thank you,
Luca


On 05/09/16 08:51, Philippe ollivier wrote:
Hi Luca,
If Max is your environment and you want to have a good UI to use your patches and plugs, you can take a moment to try Logelloop.

In Logelloop, you can load your Max patches and use them in conjunction with  our loopers and native plugs.
Logelloop also comes with a very good script editor that can be very useful with Max patches.
Logelloop works well in 64 bits.
Best regards,
Philippe

--------------------------------------------------------
www.philippeollivier.com
www.logelloop.com
www.logellou.com
--------------------------------------------------------
https://soundcloud.com/philippe-ollivier



Le 5 sept. 2016 à 00:51, Luca - Unguitar <luca@unguitar.com> a écrit :

My new audio environment is almost ready and it is based on Max Msp.
It is a step up from Audiomulch, although I miss many of its good points and simple UI.

One of the most important reasons for this change is the need to move to 64 bit, Audiomulch is still 32 bit and there's no chance to know about a possible time reference for the 64 bit update.

It looks like the same is ( sadly) happening for Mobius so I need to check about possible alternative solutions.

My system will probably be hosted by a mac but I'm open to adapt myself to any OS to get a functional audio system.

Thanks for you advice,
My best,
Luca



--------------9509C7D499E2DEECE9759215-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 6 01:29:17 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4055614390E; Tue, 6 Sep 2016 01:29:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1828 seconds by postgrey-1.35 at arsenic; Tue, 06 Sep 2016 01:29:17 UTC From: Amy X Neuburg Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_7A078302-C8BE-43BF-B1E3-D7769CD5F5C5" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Subject: looking for gigs in Italy, November Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 17:58:47 -0700 References: <1b373317-57ab-94a4-e929-2301b900fb1d@unguitar.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <1b373317-57ab-94a4-e929-2301b900fb1d@unguitar.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - zosma.lunarpages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - isproductions.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: zosma.lunarpages.com: authenticated_id: amyx@isproductions.com X-Authenticated-Sender: zosma.lunarpages.com: amyx@isproductions.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125215 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 01:29:17 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_7A078302-C8BE-43BF-B1E3-D7769CD5F5C5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hey loopers in Italy!=20 I have gigs in Milan and Pordenone on November 13 and 17. Looking for a = couple more dates that week. If anyone in the area wants to share a gig = with me and knows of a venue where we could play, feel free to contact = me at amyx@isproductions.com. Thank you! xx =CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF= =80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80 Amy X Neuburg http://www.amyxneuburg.com =CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF= =80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80 --Apple-Mail=_7A078302-C8BE-43BF-B1E3-D7769CD5F5C5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Hey loopers in = Italy! 

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= --Apple-Mail=_7A078302-C8BE-43BF-B1E3-D7769CD5F5C5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 6 03:13:26 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6BFDD14390D; Tue, 6 Sep 2016 03:13:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Rick Williamson IV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_DC4DC8D0-29AB-4568-95E8-3C9D6CEBDCBD" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) Subject: Re: 64 bit alternative to Mobius Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 22:13:23 -0500 References: <1b373317-57ab-94a4-e929-2301b900fb1d@unguitar.com> <4819c70c-a46e-725a-3bfd-6e53d472df8b@unguitar.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4819c70c-a46e-725a-3bfd-6e53d472df8b@unguitar.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a7fe257ce345420fa X-AOL-IP: 47.182.51.249 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125216 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 03:13:26 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_DC4DC8D0-29AB-4568-95E8-3C9D6CEBDCBD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Have you spent any time with the max/msp karma object? It=E2=80=99s a = very good basic looper.=20 >>=20 >>> Le 5 sept. 2016 =C3=A0 00:51, Luca - Unguitar > a =C3=A9crit : >>>=20 >>> My new audio environment is almost ready and it is based on Max Msp. >>> It is a step up from Audiomulch, although I miss many of its good = points and simple UI. >>>=20 >>> One of the most important reasons for this change is the need to = move to 64 bit, Audiomulch is still 32 bit and there's no chance to know = about a possible time reference for the 64 bit update. >>>=20 >>> It looks like the same is ( sadly) happening for Mobius so I need to = check about possible alternative solutions. >>>=20 >>> My system will probably be hosted by a mac but I'm open to adapt = myself to any OS to get a functional audio system. >>>=20 >>> Thanks for you advice, >>> My best, >>> Luca >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_DC4DC8D0-29AB-4568-95E8-3C9D6CEBDCBD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Have you spent any = time with the max/msp karma object? It=E2=80=99s a very good basic = looper. 



Le 5 = sept. 2016 =C3=A0 00:51, Luca - Unguitar <luca@unguitar.com> a = =C3=A9crit :

My new audio environment is almost ready and = it is based on Max Msp.
It is a step up from Audiomulch, = although I miss many of its good points and simple UI.

One of the most important reasons for this change is the need = to move to 64 bit, Audiomulch is still 32 bit and there's no chance to = know about a possible time reference for the 64 bit update.

It looks like the same is ( sadly) happening = for Mobius so I need to check about possible alternative solutions.

My system will probably be hosted by a mac but = I'm open to adapt myself to any OS to get a functional audio system.

Thanks for you advice,
My = best,
Luca



= --Apple-Mail=_DC4DC8D0-29AB-4568-95E8-3C9D6CEBDCBD-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 6 07:42:09 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B841714390F; Tue, 6 Sep 2016 07:42:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=8HYg7joMsCcIecAU6gf1g8YPwPteEmoylp+Eeakl/ic=; b=rjeLiZw1Y9gLXgxaRhXyCM9RNrnWTdIa4xouTX5QyfJeN+8fHUi8MdycI2g+QKEYXf ySOlmWZls56qS35i29YmdxBXkWjI2NybuW6cWKwAyuuJWxDTFWn3N+c3kpUyG2MwBWV4 e69WQQqxPEh7koxYiMXeQ7uWTNv+XXo65Kr77EMHv5fSsZbuE2+r3fGvv364ephY6pj+ su71kbqMADfzOCR7E2KuDA3nhJKXrqSk5NiaTWJJOXzaJAK0eVRYEBAbHY2I+8pEoqSw TKLuE8sUpqQd3zejnKEK7U6rUtMSkECl5538SmeC8Zsq33euJ3f/+N0/MZ2pNsGAgF7B 16KA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=8HYg7joMsCcIecAU6gf1g8YPwPteEmoylp+Eeakl/ic=; b=RiEC/yeyOOY/iyWC2OjIs1L4p3gM+VbdJyIr7iMzoZZlKnUJZkbFUNP8YE34e7bUGs AECIuXJqLocwferPIbptM59LP06rDzs1dboWu9hvKYfxkTICt234y+TcKdQ3TDbvXwOB HfdelrTd0tC5s2QuETW2krELPgZ+HQx6En8p0jK7xIayXW9q2F88Fq1Uz0xtttCO5IGA N/Qm/ycYshu6/nvKGTAN8d/XhoGbJfpos73Pmei6W7EDHmgeLQyRVLEOfKm8mUUezLxq Yb+knIdRSJettfy07NX8wJRsXaDhFAwPtTv42Rlshh/i2gC8GnVC6JkHLq4wpNs3ouHi YuOA== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwPbvBPcsfaCaAMAitM8BfoY6r9T8MTNaxcy8JYfAs6OMzqTpWC/EmRTp/HMd0cbLGZIOd04O6fh9D8ypw== X-Received: by 10.107.25.144 with SMTP id 138mr3660169ioz.170.1473147728707; Tue, 06 Sep 2016 00:42:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1b373317-57ab-94a4-e929-2301b900fb1d@unguitar.com> From: Fabio_A Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 09:42:08 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: looking for gigs in Italy, November To: "" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113fd5d812484a053bd1efc6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125217 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 07:42:09 +0000 (UTC) --001a113fd5d812484a053bd1efc6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's great Amy ! Is it Rome far away from your plans ? I can see if I can find an appropriate place for performing. Let me know. - Fabio 2016-09-06 2:58 GMT+02:00 Amy X Neuburg : > Hey loopers in Italy! > > I have gigs in Milan and Pordenone on November 13 and 17. Looking for a > couple more dates that week. If anyone in the area wants to share a gig > with me and knows of a venue where we could play, feel free to contact me > at amyx@isproductions.com. > > Thank you! > > xx > > =CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80= =CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80 > Amy X Neuburg > http://www.amyxneuburg.com > =CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80= =CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80=CF=80 > > --001a113fd5d812484a053bd1efc6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That's great Amy !
Is it Rome far away from your p= lans ?=C2=A0
I can see if I can find an appropriate place for per= forming.
Let me know.

- Fabio
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2016-09-06 2= :58 GMT+02:00 Amy X Neuburg <amyx@isproductions.com>:
Hey lo= opers in Italy!=C2=A0

I have gigs in Milan and=C2=A0Pord= enone on November 13 and 17. Looking for a couple more dates that week. If = anyone in the area wants to share a gig with me and knows of a venue where = we could play, feel free to contact me at amyx@isproductions.com.

=
Thank you!

xx

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--001a113fd5d812484a053bd1efc6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 6 12:41:26 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A75214390E; Tue, 6 Sep 2016 12:41:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=PzSPim1FP2M9hK5SsdyGT0n06iAVcMNE+XijAcKr51k=; b=Se/FAXriVGr1487UAHaIaV6GTKFRTkHpNjFJ7MCes9FsY6p1reMHzOaPsb5lJEcQIj AxZfU15RNuGZ+xYdmouIGrv+8vhiYZZxAOoGQv7FV1+L3qacpXJJD/CYrIiph6aU/nNe xulFfHdOB5sa1gt4F+9kOYSEA8YY82JOhKBqPK1CuFTvHe/s8mQD/co/ugBYBlGvPt54 3AHuRzpiC3iDhQM+xM2SJ9LNasiD2G8ORuJhb6Vm4xfGjp2Hz8X7u+uxL75bayLKl9C+ EG+vGLLoEJEW77NEvk6+hbOjbR5Pg8vhSAoKyJCokQ/PmutrqLqv3f/3EP+z5ltOPwma Qrcg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=PzSPim1FP2M9hK5SsdyGT0n06iAVcMNE+XijAcKr51k=; b=Bt3AGSyTp/iAe/WXwVe8mPCxQt8exdfqAKo6rkJ0AWzi+k593ubwqw2e91JOL7vPho yUTbhR/YwGcmEJ0ATjJHMSp7aMFJ71sU3YfV2Mh9NUsWWwQCjL5u6OBxPRs73ElJbW6x rJmsgSwZPxJtOC0Pg1bBqKvqm/DZVswAhiM5zVftEzFQ4kSPrTDPcuZxeYfIN0W9TmFW MNfYfokO+RvmHgjnv30dBjdoWgfHTIjs/5V95rceO1dPokW0ejAPPQPjg7TgMxs3wYea /8eyfRhuoIeQBGr4vSoDy097w+VNcOGQNf2PHrxu8APFYIdTsdZa2HUYPbHsCpiXMEB/ pdMg== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwM/YSWkzS1m4JcWAnN+GDBDErxcl5mAUBRcMwPgFg4Db8XMOXzL/83L5Ghflcxv4KadlKO9aFjjaVDuIA== X-Received: by 10.129.132.78 with SMTP id u75mr7719054ywf.255.1473165684553; Tue, 06 Sep 2016 05:41:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1b373317-57ab-94a4-e929-2301b900fb1d@unguitar.com> References: <1b373317-57ab-94a4-e929-2301b900fb1d@unguitar.com> From: Sylvain Poitras Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 08:41:24 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 64 bit alternative to Mobius To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114f0a9252bd89053bd61d2a Resent-Message-ID: <04PP6B.A.exD.2lrzXB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125218 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 12:41:26 +0000 (UTC) --001a114f0a9252bd89053bd61d2a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hello Luca, I recommend you have a look at the karma~ looper external for max: http://www.rodrigoconstanzo.com/karma/ Sylvain On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Luca - Unguitar wrote: > My new audio environment is almost ready and it is based on Max Msp. > It is a step up from Audiomulch, although I miss many of its good points > and simple UI. > > One of the most important reasons for this change is the need to move to > 64 bit, Audiomulch is still 32 bit and there's no chance to know about a > possible time reference for the 64 bit update. > > It looks like the same is ( sadly) happening for Mobius so I need to check > about possible alternative solutions. > > My system will probably be hosted by a mac but I'm open to adapt myself to > any OS to get a functional audio system. > > Thanks for you advice, > My best, > Luca > > --001a114f0a9252bd89053bd61d2a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Luca,=C2=A0
I recommend you have a look at the k= arma~ looper external for max:=C2=A0http://www.rodrigoconstanzo.com/karma/

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Sylvain
--001a114f0a9252bd89053bd61d2a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 6 17:49:58 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22ACC14390D; Tue, 6 Sep 2016 17:49:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=hFq5ehyT0S/EYfB+QF2xc9aNfWytWBKbfoQd+3ZyY8Q=; b=EPindjUpqWb61rL736KnYEFsCXkVZW6WYstGGiWVXpgqNV+ZJOBtnNx+KQGxeqFT2v EkaRD/TWzjaRc3n8E/2ASZ8uYoIYESnW2F4JpQEXsU5xkcbqFAD9AmoypXUZKeSd2dms cBGjbHxBfMnMxrSODIQZ8fl02MxMk7EeRsbSBXYrovAqX8B61caD5rIDXPmFsqvxdGSD WWSwwdCRFhP4gELJWzHyVhAEs4JmZy4n0k9Nt9dbVlZJCveiQ+cJUiaXVtsUZ4tM82Pm OdqkV0RBPZ9VtR7zsCYhaImNZ8ICgLUr33n9KqLnuDYyMHF0NRl8QgtqUinXt7PcasMe 2bsA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=hFq5ehyT0S/EYfB+QF2xc9aNfWytWBKbfoQd+3ZyY8Q=; b=EUG737vPLGbZlodzSJ+Gr4JsIwWBi/36gI6V8KZL+1Lt5Pk6JXr+4PQaifJSyPtYvp 6u0SVmHfssDB+hodrCBqoFVSkVG0pNT9A3YRHO0Qw9GfgA5MEk0AzlWQ+ASskDkkdM0T dAV0bkSGzCOcC+2EwgQKgEKqLXMt3ArrPzr8ZC3Hbo6vSdvHF97j7RaJwgWDrnG4gNSc MjFIqbNMT9anGSnW3T8tJx7jTN2WPoIFYGsEW1msk5su9PbD1D4kI1I4ZEupYQ962/Tc Te2Z+cG/30yUoq2JvScuVVAIn02BvFl+wscYZm1O/x8f+Cz4aVqal+qyVrfm2xMeflXM S5/A== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwOs+a8J3ubqz2MQQ0z5WG9uU/FNYPpvxhDI2+gqSREIPYr4/iefek5FtcTGyoRKi0yGdOiFky+g4BtgLg== X-Received: by 10.176.82.101 with SMTP id j34mr25806315uaa.22.1473184197281; Tue, 06 Sep 2016 10:49:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1b373317-57ab-94a4-e929-2301b900fb1d@unguitar.com> <4819c70c-a46e-725a-3bfd-6e53d472df8b@unguitar.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 13:49:16 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 64 bit alternative to Mobius To: "Looper's Delight" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c191076c49131053bda6c5a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125219 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 17:49:58 +0000 (UTC) --94eb2c191076c49131053bda6c5a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks for that Rick! I checked it out, had no idea it had been included in Max 7 installs. It's pretty much a ready buffer setup all coded nice with extra features! t. On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Rick Williamson IV wrote: > Have you spent any time with the max/msp karma object? It=E2=80=99s a ver= y good > basic looper. > > > > Le 5 sept. 2016 =C3=A0 00:51, Luca - Unguitar a =C3= =A9crit : > > My new audio environment is almost ready and it is based on Max Msp. > It is a step up from Audiomulch, although I miss many of its good points > and simple UI. > > One of the most important reasons for this change is the need to move to > 64 bit, Audiomulch is still 32 bit and there's no chance to know about a > possible time reference for the 64 bit update. > > It looks like the same is ( sadly) happening for Mobius so I need to chec= k > about possible alternative solutions. > > My system will probably be hosted by a mac but I'm open to adapt myself t= o > any OS to get a functional audio system. > > Thanks for you advice, > My best, > Luca > > > > --=20 need me right away? Call or text me at 917.576.6166 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =E2=80=A2 *The Best Classical Music of the Year, 2011* - Amazon.com =E2=80=A2 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wher= ever music is sold. Here's a direct link to Amazon, however! =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://instagram.com/digifiddler http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://gplus.to/toddreynolds http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://mymicrolife.tumblr.com http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --94eb2c191076c49131053bda6c5a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
thanks for that Rick!=C2=A0 I checked it out, had no idea = it had been included in Max 7 installs.=C2=A0 It's pretty much a ready = buffer setup all coded nice with extra features!=C2=A0

t= .


On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Rick Williamson IV <rdwfour@= verizon.net> wrote:
Have you spent any time with the max/msp karma= object? It=E2=80=99s a very good basic looper.=C2=A0
=


Le 5 sept. 2016 =C3=A0 00:51, Luca - Unguitar <luca@unguitar.com> = a =C3=A9crit :

My new audio environment is almost ready = and it is based on Max Msp.
It is a step up from Audiomulch, although I = miss many of its good points and simple UI.

One of the most importan= t reasons for this change is the need to move to 64 bit, Audiomulch is stil= l 32 bit and there's no chance to know about a possible time reference = for the 64 bit update.

It looks like the same is ( sadly) happening = for Mobius so I need to check about possible alternative solutions.

= My system will probably be hosted by a mac but I'm open to adapt myself= to any OS to get a functional audio system.

Thanks for you advice,<= br>My best,
Luca



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need me right away?=C2=A0 Call or text me at 917.576.6166
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--94eb2c191076c49131053bda6c5a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 6 19:15:02 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CECCF14390B; Tue, 6 Sep 2016 19:15:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: 64 bit alternative to Mobius To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <1b373317-57ab-94a4-e929-2301b900fb1d@unguitar.com> From: Luca - Unguitar Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:15:00 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------EB3579EB9FCA59AAD34401EF" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125220 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 19:15:02 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------EB3579EB9FCA59AAD34401EF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ciao Sylvain, wow, this looks really interesting!!! Unfortunately my low level Max skills need your help in putting the right file in the right folder... I'm on a Mac and Max7. Should i pick the karma .mxo file and place it in a specific folder? which one? thank you, cannot wait to give it a try! On 06/09/16 14:41, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > Hello Luca, > I recommend you have a look at the karma~ looper external for max: > http://www.rodrigoconstanzo.com/karma/ > > Sylvain > > On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Luca - Unguitar > wrote: > > My new audio environment is almost ready and it is based on Max Msp. > It is a step up from Audiomulch, although I miss many of its good > points and simple UI. > > One of the most important reasons for this change is the need to > move to 64 bit, Audiomulch is still 32 bit and there's no chance > to know about a possible time reference for the 64 bit update. > > It looks like the same is ( sadly) happening for Mobius so I need > to check about possible alternative solutions. > > My system will probably be hosted by a mac but I'm open to adapt > myself to any OS to get a functional audio system. > > Thanks for you advice, > My best, > Luca > > --------------EB3579EB9FCA59AAD34401EF Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
ciao Sylvain,

wow, this looks really interesting!!!

Unfortunately my low level Max skills need your help in putting the right file in the right folder...
I'm on a Mac and Max7. Should i pick the karma .mxo file and place it in a specific folder? which one?

thank you, cannot wait to give it a try!


On 06/09/16 14:41, Sylvain Poitras wrote:
Hello Luca, 
I recommend you have a look at the karma~ looper external for max: http://www.rodrigoconstanzo.com/karma/

Sylvain

On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Luca - Unguitar <luca@unguitar.com> wrote:
My new audio environment is almost ready and it is based on Max Msp.
It is a step up from Audiomulch, although I miss many of its good points and simple UI.

One of the most important reasons for this change is the need to move to 64 bit, Audiomulch is still 32 bit and there's no chance to know about a possible time reference for the 64 bit update.

It looks like the same is ( sadly) happening for Mobius so I need to check about possible alternative solutions.

My system will probably be hosted by a mac but I'm open to adapt myself to any OS to get a functional audio system.

Thanks for you advice,
My best,
Luca



--------------EB3579EB9FCA59AAD34401EF-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 6 19:20:05 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E75C14390F; Tue, 6 Sep 2016 19:20:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=9g3mbXFU/U+PKj+KZeoir5MgkUTIVGF9r1yiCfoKH48=; b=R7PjJyO5Tk7J5g89phYvYh48qXGN3+LC9WGJj56XZjrDrGnQOq1mDExwOxH2GcVRDq k5no4cOliJuePwrICt04aGZFdRLCg7I/xiRJxaBmFNpwJSMrPWGHVkRvyhtmDbVRUPhh Ab73sMx2hHATVU3TgBmWAjEpyWcmCkvnpQvWCpcmouu8rNDrGncWJ/Gcr3XKGd3+4+IS 0r0KSygRdKTCOf7dDn6ZsrBX/5nJpCmlc8wtUHodjOhVfA16MMmysHmTDZnXtNVlbB35 70ehgsZQFuCQliZXr13T57Kyk/b0mMF71Y2NRopo8izbPinOo/+5AmfdOOCWxauVmSXB JBOA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=9g3mbXFU/U+PKj+KZeoir5MgkUTIVGF9r1yiCfoKH48=; b=a01NakQ/c+A3h3/q+AIei5wpGv7/HqdjU1dAC9Syu4HdUnpjMou+jHQ75kq4ZjmITK hl79q4/Yi7VOv0hfBO23Fq+/1zvc4lrQa0Xe/vMbwrYMPtwHjNlA2TxsQ0GyV8WYsrzP vFEwoAunE4Ew3kpIBOaczJnTIZsxBeVCYYIg5s/ps2oxDClRE5NkMoibBti7zyD9BXFq 2USVJsPhxoNKZz5je8VuqCWJYUwT6Dfn+gjmhL4CE2REW93+2UkpxVkBO1YaE4bHy6js r12hx9AgDPShsZCJlKIbPh0u3lLr4ULS/1fHrEIMcCt2uU9+OfZy4TFqJOUhjIHiabGY k2gQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwP2iDvDbbS89Fmw7XnNNhEuRmhcbrFRofbz1U2mYbi1Ths8HDFWZtYNfdyiPfG7e3myx7VnONAxxvvKhg== X-Received: by 10.36.5.205 with SMTP id 196mr473950itl.11.1473189604323; Tue, 06 Sep 2016 12:20:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Kevin Cheli-Colando Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 12:20:01 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: DL-4 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1135a7f20d7666053bdbafe3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125221 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 19:20:05 +0000 (UTC) --001a1135a7f20d7666053bdbafe3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just in case anyone wants a nice delay/simple looper, Line 6 is selling refurb DL-4s for $125. http://store.line6.com/factory-refurbished-and-closeouts.html?mkt_tok=3DeyJ= pIjoiWkdNek5ETmxOVEk0WkdFMyIsInQiOiJabStTNTdVUzJRY3hiUElqNVozNWw1WUZ3ckxRZl= NWTVdLalVFMDlGS1NpMXA0aEFGcFVEN2F2b2lTU0phcUd6cFZVYlRTYThoNXltUXowQXBjQ3ZuZ= VZLNmUyVXpibVkwcGdHcUVaU1Rabz0ifQ%3D%3D&p=3D5 Kevin --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) --001a1135a7f20d7666053bdbafe3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--001a1135a7f20d7666053bdbafe3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 6 19:24:06 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F57914390A; Tue, 6 Sep 2016 19:24:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: 64 bit alternative to Mobius Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <1b373317-57ab-94a4-e929-2301b900fb1d@unguitar.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Luca - Unguitar Message-ID: <378e8abf-ec6b-0564-e044-14aedd080c64@unguitar.com> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:24:04 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------8CD6595E9C67BAAE8889948D" Resent-Message-ID: <_sl-L.A.pxF.WfxzXB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125222 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 19:24:06 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------8CD6595E9C67BAAE8889948D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit sorry guys, didn't want to spam the list with this message, which was intended as a PM to Sylvain... On 06/09/16 21:15, Luca - Unguitar wrote: > ciao Sylvain, > > wow, this looks really interesting!!! > > Unfortunately my low level Max skills need your help in putting the > right file in the right folder... > I'm on a Mac and Max7. Should i pick the karma .mxo file and place it > in a specific folder? which one? > > thank you, cannot wait to give it a try! > > > On 06/09/16 14:41, Sylvain Poitras wrote: >> Hello Luca, >> I recommend you have a look at the karma~ looper external for max: >> http://www.rodrigoconstanzo.com/karma/ >> >> Sylvain >> >> On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Luca - Unguitar > > wrote: >> >> My new audio environment is almost ready and it is based on Max Msp. >> It is a step up from Audiomulch, although I miss many of its good >> points and simple UI. >> >> One of the most important reasons for this change is the need to >> move to 64 bit, Audiomulch is still 32 bit and there's no chance >> to know about a possible time reference for the 64 bit update. >> >> It looks like the same is ( sadly) happening for Mobius so I need >> to check about possible alternative solutions. >> >> My system will probably be hosted by a mac but I'm open to adapt >> myself to any OS to get a functional audio system. >> >> Thanks for you advice, >> My best, >> Luca >> >> > --------------8CD6595E9C67BAAE8889948D Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
sorry guys,

didn't want to spam the list with this message, which was intended as a PM to Sylvain...

On 06/09/16 21:15, Luca - Unguitar wrote:
ciao Sylvain,

wow, this looks really interesting!!!

Unfortunately my low level Max skills need your help in putting the right file in the right folder...
I'm on a Mac and Max7. Should i pick the karma .mxo file and place it in a specific folder? which one?

thank you, cannot wait to give it a try!


On 06/09/16 14:41, Sylvain Poitras wrote:
Hello Luca, 
I recommend you have a look at the karma~ looper external for max: http://www.rodrigoconstanzo.com/karma/

Sylvain

On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Luca - Unguitar <luca@unguitar.com> wrote:
My new audio environment is almost ready and it is based on Max Msp.
It is a step up from Audiomulch, although I miss many of its good points and simple UI.

One of the most important reasons for this change is the need to move to 64 bit, Audiomulch is still 32 bit and there's no chance to know about a possible time reference for the 64 bit update.

It looks like the same is ( sadly) happening for Mobius so I need to check about possible alternative solutions.

My system will probably be hosted by a mac but I'm open to adapt myself to any OS to get a functional audio system.

Thanks for you advice,
My best,
Luca




--------------8CD6595E9C67BAAE8889948D-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 6 20:23:51 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 346B714390D; Tue, 6 Sep 2016 20:23:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Rick Williamson IV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_5506DF1C-64FE-44B6-982F-5611197D1DF8" Message-Id: <9849F297-B62B-4002-BD41-2F6A01765E3C@verizon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) Subject: Re: 64 bit alternative to Mobius Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 15:23:48 -0500 References: <1b373317-57ab-94a4-e929-2301b900fb1d@unguitar.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b14ce57cf25d53e3e X-AOL-IP: 47.182.51.249 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125223 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 20:23:51 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_5506DF1C-64FE-44B6-982F-5611197D1DF8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If you click on the package icon on the left side of the max patcher = window you can down load karma from the package manager. It will unpack = the object and place it in the correct folder.=20 > On Sep 6, 2016, at 2:15 PM, Luca - Unguitar wrote: >=20 > ciao Sylvain, >=20 > wow, this looks really interesting!!! >=20 > Unfortunately my low level Max skills need your help in putting the = right file in the right folder... > I'm on a Mac and Max7. Should i pick the karma .mxo file and place it = in a specific folder? which one? >=20 > thank you, cannot wait to give it a try! >=20 >=20 > On 06/09/16 14:41, Sylvain Poitras wrote: >> Hello Luca,=20 >> I recommend you have a look at the karma~ looper external for max: = http://www.rodrigoconstanzo.com/karma/ = >>=20 >> Sylvain >>=20 >> On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Luca - Unguitar > wrote: >> My new audio environment is almost ready and it is based on Max Msp. >> It is a step up from Audiomulch, although I miss many of its good = points and simple UI. >>=20 >> One of the most important reasons for this change is the need to move = to 64 bit, Audiomulch is still 32 bit and there's no chance to know = about a possible time reference for the 64 bit update. >>=20 >> It looks like the same is ( sadly) happening for Mobius so I need to = check about possible alternative solutions. >>=20 >> My system will probably be hosted by a mac but I'm open to adapt = myself to any OS to get a functional audio system. >>=20 >> Thanks for you advice, >> My best, >> Luca >>=20 >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_5506DF1C-64FE-44B6-982F-5611197D1DF8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii If you click on the package icon on the left side of the max patcher window you can down load karma from the package manager. It will unpack the object and place it in the correct folder. 

On Sep 6, 2016, at 2:15 PM, Luca - Unguitar <luca@unguitar.com> wrote:

ciao Sylvain,

wow, this looks really interesting!!!

Unfortunately my low level Max skills need your help in putting the right file in the right folder...
I'm on a Mac and Max7. Should i pick the karma .mxo file and place it in a specific folder? which one?

thank you, cannot wait to give it a try!


On 06/09/16 14:41, Sylvain Poitras wrote:
Hello Luca, 
I recommend you have a look at the karma~ looper external for max: http://www.rodrigoconstanzo.com/karma/

Sylvain

On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Luca - Unguitar <luca@unguitar.com> wrote:
My new audio environment is almost ready and it is based on Max Msp.
It is a step up from Audiomulch, although I miss many of its good points and simple UI.

One of the most important reasons for this change is the need to move to 64 bit, Audiomulch is still 32 bit and there's no chance to know about a possible time reference for the 64 bit update.

It looks like the same is ( sadly) happening for Mobius so I need to check about possible alternative solutions.

My system will probably be hosted by a mac but I'm open to adapt myself to any OS to get a functional audio system.

Thanks for you advice,
My best,
Luca




--Apple-Mail=_5506DF1C-64FE-44B6-982F-5611197D1DF8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 6 20:59:25 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC8C214390B; Tue, 6 Sep 2016 20:59:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: 64 bit alternative to Mobius To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <1b373317-57ab-94a4-e929-2301b900fb1d@unguitar.com> <9849F297-B62B-4002-BD41-2F6A01765E3C@verizon.net> From: Luca - Unguitar Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 22:59:22 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9849F297-B62B-4002-BD41-2F6A01765E3C@verizon.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------2364BDD96035CD4F4CB80509" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125224 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 20:59:24 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------2364BDD96035CD4F4CB80509 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thank you Rick, this is a very interesting tool, unfortunately it is far from replacing Mobius, the amazing. Its pitch/time algorithm is fantastically smooth though! On 06/09/16 22:23, Rick Williamson IV wrote: > If you click on the package icon on the left side of the max patcher > window you can down load karma from the package manager. It will > unpack the object and place it in the correct folder. > >> On Sep 6, 2016, at 2:15 PM, Luca - Unguitar > > wrote: >> >> ciao Sylvain, >> >> wow, this looks really interesting!!! >> >> Unfortunately my low level Max skills need your help in putting the >> right file in the right folder... >> I'm on a Mac and Max7. Should i pick the karma .mxo file and place it >> in a specific folder? which one? >> >> thank you, cannot wait to give it a try! >> >> >> On 06/09/16 14:41, Sylvain Poitras wrote: >>> Hello Luca, >>> I recommend you have a look at the karma~ looper external for max: >>> http://www.rodrigoconstanzo.com/karma/ >>> >>> Sylvain >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Luca - Unguitar >> > wrote: >>> >>> My new audio environment is almost ready and it is based on Max Msp. >>> It is a step up from Audiomulch, although I miss many of its >>> good points and simple UI. >>> >>> One of the most important reasons for this change is the need to >>> move to 64 bit, Audiomulch is still 32 bit and there's no chance >>> to know about a possible time reference for the 64 bit update. >>> >>> It looks like the same is ( sadly) happening for Mobius so I >>> need to check about possible alternative solutions. >>> >>> My system will probably be hosted by a mac but I'm open to adapt >>> myself to any OS to get a functional audio system. >>> >>> Thanks for you advice, >>> My best, >>> Luca >>> >>> >> > --------------2364BDD96035CD4F4CB80509 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
thank you Rick,
this is a very interesting tool, unfortunately it is far from replacing Mobius, the amazing.
Its pitch/time algorithm is fantastically smooth though!


On 06/09/16 22:23, Rick Williamson IV wrote:
If you click on the package icon on the left side of the max patcher window you can down load karma from the package manager. It will unpack the object and place it in the correct folder. 

On Sep 6, 2016, at 2:15 PM, Luca - Unguitar <luca@unguitar.com> wrote:

ciao Sylvain,

wow, this looks really interesting!!!

Unfortunately my low level Max skills need your help in putting the right file in the right folder...
I'm on a Mac and Max7. Should i pick the karma .mxo file and place it in a specific folder? which one?

thank you, cannot wait to give it a try!


On 06/09/16 14:41, Sylvain Poitras wrote:
Hello Luca, 
I recommend you have a look at the karma~ looper external for max: http://www.rodrigoconstanzo.com/karma/

Sylvain

On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Luca - Unguitar <luca@unguitar.com> wrote:
My new audio environment is almost ready and it is based on Max Msp.
It is a step up from Audiomulch, although I miss many of its good points and simple UI.

One of the most important reasons for this change is the need to move to 64 bit, Audiomulch is still 32 bit and there's no chance to know about a possible time reference for the 64 bit update.

It looks like the same is ( sadly) happening for Mobius so I need to check about possible alternative solutions.

My system will probably be hosted by a mac but I'm open to adapt myself to any OS to get a functional audio system.

Thanks for you advice,
My best,
Luca





--------------2364BDD96035CD4F4CB80509-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 6 21:14:12 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1F3214390E; Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:14:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=bI8uohEvxI/aI2FPQpb5VYC418H1QhE0oaVTIntaaag=; b=go6UyPaLZSx1MqjHZot0sjNkhKZtKZzWwFOYIkfguxfB7aXoUKtRZqmLnimIGhPkzz B2EWLFwz0Y3eLConIXHNPcEkCdTSzuIfzNaSB70GCS2ycJDSUUUuSLsfZ8nOLzlB7vLI MOt7fXgHKeK8r2uaTZan6ZQB9f8PgtqMlku53zh9F+SErJ25paIcrKbqLrl7UAM2VgX1 iygjjCj0J9X3ydUh7Ovb6JrLKcizX72k+Zk3AHTlKaEpKHBXAZXcdbUYDGmRd8LDgNZv 3U6r7D0BXU+fi82s8G479vdAD2ex0ZTpigtgiVe+Z4H7NM0k0kMysXQg0MY2g+yMX7MY W7eg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=bI8uohEvxI/aI2FPQpb5VYC418H1QhE0oaVTIntaaag=; b=SwRBawGlq+fVolRYp9dMyUAZ55ZkooMcD6nMBgy3L03q/gfCtPSBtzqjPLwnggpS3l sFPcxn9HuIdia+BawmZZ2F2wAcZ6uxmwsLfSGsm7zAHZq68HCFHWOUTIr7SQ14773iKb fuNg6p70QMF0DfXiyVyXtxIZmWPcm5Ahks8Z4KAjtMCF3eERd1Jdzq2mbLXXjuqDSF4a z6FM7VDOBwmXtL8hQzXQrVFdF1ZlyapIWXuletkxyUx8tg5llogsW0F96QYv76z8tweq NBqRtLAXuYjgK39tM38Enq1BLyi8sdBO4E8gksC4y38KBFn/RURfdTE3pqp3c8yBOvNL O5XA== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwOJ/g7Jma0oY9ky5h1rIy/SCJUpMH7f/ejS8eCkuWI3DOP/MqQTSY4kJK9WpcEmG9wZbQ135zf3Aefbjg== X-Received: by 10.55.195.77 with SMTP id a74mr33616081qkj.165.1473196452032; Tue, 06 Sep 2016 14:14:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1b373317-57ab-94a4-e929-2301b900fb1d@unguitar.com> <9849F297-B62B-4002-BD41-2F6A01765E3C@verizon.net> From: Per Boysen Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 23:14:11 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 64 bit alternative to Mobius To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125225 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:14:12 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 10:59 PM, Luca - Unguitar wrote: > unfortunately it is far from replacing Mobius, You might want to take a second look at Logelloop! I think it is up there at the Mobius level, but different in a unique way. Does some really cool things that Mobius can't. And of course can't do some things Mobius can; so it is a unified looping system with really cool unique features plus the meat and potato stuff. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com www.boysen.se From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 9 11:28:53 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69C84FF951; Fri, 9 Sep 2016 11:28:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com From: Luca - Unguitar Subject: Plogue Bidule anyone? Message-ID: <6a20e69e-6dc4-eb64-6d60-e696808dd46e@unguitar.com> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 13:28:50 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4HXCFB.A.5VG.1zp0XB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125226 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 11:28:53 +0000 (UTC) Does anyone on the list have a certain familiarity with Bidule and be so kind to reply to some questions? I'm testing it as well and I need to have some points cleared before going on. thank you From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 9 13:28:24 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F5AFFF952; Fri, 9 Sep 2016 13:28:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=StjfM7S/4Nqj55fHaItsagzpAsxT39fhJX1DHMMoNVE=; b=RHF4ONIN5MyLYMDRu/IgGc9iF2CPVF3xiA/8quRjyY1Wn7LNmSB5xgnlrCokEuDStN IIjo1fzIkOedhAxqhNHeGdLrQNQG2YOgrhaoagEwB8d2Qmf2Oi20FtsBlDga2fS5Xy0m Te9VQ8hunAmbNvtPNrmTl2SbR6xZqpdoZFHx7nDb82988iSqSlMN5PsX2j2pdz3Kn6NJ KR4RwZ2LlE3/Gqo8cg8XU4qyLZDevrpxH6JLbLQp1E6YLQ809yz/2qddOt4U42n34RyQ SShpJzA1LCr+ywUnYi2EhvCllCi6S5g+lgMBNTjmjaBx+soJiZL1tfevBTTkO8IX2071 EMAw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=StjfM7S/4Nqj55fHaItsagzpAsxT39fhJX1DHMMoNVE=; b=TcPEH8VRm59nE1mbHmPyfZ3r6VP1pM+zKwoWPDpabPt7wCZ4LOizySnPAfDnrOStcL 52kUY2odI8rxcqU8+ZsW5FUXmU7I5pgIs0xax48bNXfJprsFm8oSjo7daA9Ud8DI60UV /mCAs7qQp3k5jYIu/42dFDnjGXrtiyL3glw61NS7dCmArVXGC828FhhFG9TxI/bTWZxx xDtsrAIIPC8OZhqIYIkzHeKzyEuwCnEmOK/F2HZeOQ0jAhVNIgrd5z1gWfJKDAWkMQny Kl/jRzOkYLvztCY+YVPYbwB0FvaDieywjDBa9Pr7ueSDKcb89Gdc43lgiyEB9hVSio7o R/yQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwNJP6umo9XHGAVjfEovA2XP7aGPnf10pn6lF387uCOemAQfu1QLg2I4cpmGU0iJUiTBcZqmcFrb2Riygw== X-Received: by 10.55.31.76 with SMTP id f73mr3658288qkf.260.1473427703733; Fri, 09 Sep 2016 06:28:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6a20e69e-6dc4-eb64-6d60-e696808dd46e@unguitar.com> References: <6a20e69e-6dc4-eb64-6d60-e696808dd46e@unguitar.com> From: Per Boysen Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 15:28:23 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Plogue Bidule anyone? To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1147d536e22629053c131e06 Resent-Message-ID: <4-txjB.A.DGH.4jr0XB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125227 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 13:28:24 +0000 (UTC) --001a1147d536e22629053c131e06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Why not post the Qs to the list? We are many Bidule afficionados here. fredag 9 september 2016 skrev Luca - Unguitar : > Does anyone on the list have a certain familiarity with Bidule and be so > kind to reply to some questions? > > I'm testing it as well and I need to have some points cleared before going > on. > > thank you > > -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com www.boysen.se --001a1147d536e22629053c131e06 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Why not post the Qs to the list? We are many Bidule afficionados here.

fredag 9 september 2016 skrev Luca - Unguitar <luca@unguitar.com>:
Does anyone on the list have a certain familiarity with Bid= ule and be so kind to reply to some questions?

I'm testing it as well and I need to have some points cleared before go= ing on.

thank you



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Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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www.boysen.se --001a1147d536e22629053c131e06-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 9 14:31:55 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B36FFFF94D; Fri, 9 Sep 2016 14:31:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2016 16:31:46 +0200 From: luca@unguitar.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Plogue Bidule anyone? In-Reply-To: References: <6a20e69e-6dc4-eb64-6d60-e696808dd46e@unguitar.com> Message-ID: <40b433bc9bcd6a42321db67daae05c55@pop.unguitar.com> X-Sender: luca@unguitar.com User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.2.1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125228 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 14:31:55 +0000 (UTC) sure, I just don't want to be banned as an OT starter ;-) I'm testing Bidule and I've been able to reproduce the full signal flow and midi control happening in my beloved Audiomulch patch: http://www.unguitar.com/600/ In Bidule I just cannot find the way to manage single plugins' preset change. In Audiomulch each plugin ( module in Bidule and contraption in Audiomulch) has an internal preset list that you can recall via midi ( Program Change in this case). I have things patched so that when I send PC messages all the plugins move to a specific preset. I am not able to find how to manage this in Bidule. thank you for the OT permission! luca Il 2016-09-09 15:28 Per Boysen ha scritto: > Why not post the Qs to the list? We are many Bidule afficionados here. > > fredag 9 september 2016 skrev Luca - Unguitar : > >> Does anyone on the list have a certain familiarity with Bidule and >> be so kind to reply to some questions? >> >> I'm testing it as well and I need to have some points cleared before >> going on. >> >> thank you > > -- > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com [1] > www.boysen.se [2] > > > Links: > ------ > [1] http://www.perboysen.com > [2] http://www.boysen.se From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 9 15:33:50 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A6EDFF950; Fri, 9 Sep 2016 15:33:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=/JGr11/GjZjfenS6lsVDT12J9DU0mo+acIPpfHvopxY=; b=VSXru9ucdJm0QwQ6O4yXWat4cfxf6OLb82AIpe8DGtUo72QbrfQLMDztNmYKKbZSVv 0v0Al5XMxmdWzMYOV/66gh9GEN6zdlKkc0RJCGsnMzkCEiGHi6/o/QKl//1d3Xcf3v00 AONhdx5cBczcQzgGTWNllXTzL/GdKvjIQ9U0gdWUAzReItGafdGuLkCBfXbyOFvm7ncZ sKFgqVnEXjnzMQucmbWlUC4hykUbE/z4Ep13pB9TIpfeRhlyUAYfTOmBzDuAPBAPaSWo AhvQCY+N5BYwf+fWK+sZdAvM/E6g+qaIWQeKqMV0ORzFvim0jZGFVtUB7jV86Kjw8lk+ nBCg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=/JGr11/GjZjfenS6lsVDT12J9DU0mo+acIPpfHvopxY=; b=PrmVWtPUKPkYryeAqxnYQ3URkpF/cwOo0zodk82WEeM8puJ8f6jCp/Q51W4VEGs45Z cSwz8p/KV8L4b0xGeraP9a0QrSJ1LK7dIRobiwKVaokLvP31fQkP+UEdYEwgbKMGfrva FJNIYnm6PbKWfkw2Q5twKPB9Gmm2TVilGF7qsvNzr3fMNVcEe+2AZ7SkW/4lbKlpz+2P g1nXHpip8SwUeFcj8GcdqIrFWdHIo/QfWfZrb0JhUa/uepWpWmGjNp/RpjmVm79cpXD1 KGGUJIyGAANqR42ED2/RpwTxSuCTyocATCKEvI72Z6VINOGRSMN5/Pq71egbKyWgoadw 7QBw== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwM6tpWm8iIXh4nFvXE9GgZBByFGOdzpWGiqxhV4v58liZSSgovfAENhKHWmzT8nT6N6RFuvYewzoCmIXQ== X-Received: by 10.55.195.77 with SMTP id a74mr4479613qkj.165.1473435229880; Fri, 09 Sep 2016 08:33:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <40b433bc9bcd6a42321db67daae05c55@pop.unguitar.com> References: <6a20e69e-6dc4-eb64-6d60-e696808dd46e@unguitar.com> <40b433bc9bcd6a42321db67daae05c55@pop.unguitar.com> From: Per Boysen Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 17:33:49 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Plogue Bidule anyone? To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11478c987a2296053c14df54 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125229 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 15:33:50 +0000 (UTC) --001a11478c987a2296053c14df54 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 To handle plugin presets in Bidule is best done in a similar way as Mainstge and Ableton Live (the Rack trick). Bidule has an object called Audio Switcher. Each if its "tags" (patch/channel/preset) correspondss to a unique MIDI Program Change number (on the input side). So if you send PC#3 into the Audio Switcher, the plugin instance associated with tag #3 will get routed to the Audio Switcher's output. In order to associate a specific plugin with a certain tag you need to open the global midi bindings window (top of work space) and click those objects. The idea is to create many plugin instances, each one loaded with a unique plugin preset. This makes preset switching smooth with no audio glitches. One can also use a Switcher tag to activate a a complex system of many routed plugns. There is also a useful Group, that a helpful guy at the Bidule forum once built for me, that listens to the tail of the previous preset, during the switching, and keeps that line open until the old preset's tail has faded out (let me know later if you want me to send over that Group, right now I'm out street busking with the iPhone). fredag 9 september 2016 skrev : > sure, > > I just don't want to be banned as an OT starter ;-) > > I'm testing Bidule and I've been able to reproduce the full signal flow > and midi control happening in my beloved Audiomulch patch: > http://www.unguitar.com/600/ > > In Bidule I just cannot find the way to manage single plugins' preset > change. > In Audiomulch each plugin ( module in Bidule and contraption in > Audiomulch) has an internal preset list that you can recall via midi ( > Program Change in this case). > I have things patched so that when I send PC messages all the plugins move > to a specific preset. > I am not able to find how to manage this in Bidule. > > thank you for the OT permission! > > luca > > > > Il 2016-09-09 15:28 Per Boysen ha scritto: > >> Why not post the Qs to the list? We are many Bidule afficionados here. >> >> fredag 9 september 2016 skrev Luca - Unguitar : >> >> Does anyone on the list have a certain familiarity with Bidule and >>> be so kind to reply to some questions? >>> >>> I'm testing it as well and I need to have some points cleared before >>> going on. >>> >>> thank you >>> >> >> -- >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.perboysen.com [1] >> www.boysen.se [2] >> >> >> Links: >> ------ >> [1] http://www.perboysen.com >> [2] http://www.boysen.se >> > > -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com www.boysen.se --001a11478c987a2296053c14df54 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To handle plugin presets in Bidule is best done in a similar way as Mainstg= e and Ableton Live (the Rack trick).

Bidule has an objec= t called Audio Switcher. Each if its "tags" (patch/channel/preset= ) correspondss to a unique MIDI Program Change number (on the input side). = So if you send PC#3 into the Audio Switcher, the plugin instance associated= with tag #3 will get routed to the Audio Switcher's output. In order t= o associate a specific plugin with a certain tag you need to open the globa= l midi bindings window (top of work space)=C2=A0and click those objects. Th= e idea is to create many plugin instances, each one loaded with a unique pl= ugin preset. This makes preset switching smooth with no audio glitches. One= can also use a Switcher tag to activate a =C2=A0a complex system of many r= outed plugns.

There is also a useful Group, that a= helpful guy at the Bidule forum once built for me, that listens to the=C2=A0tail of the previous preset, during the switching, and keeps= that line open until the old preset's tail has faded out (let me know = later=C2=A0if you want me to send over that Group, right now I'm out st= reet busking with the iPhone).

fredag 9 september 2016 skrev <luca@unguitar.com>:
sure,

I just don't want to be banned as an OT starter ;-)

I'm testing Bidule and I've been able to reproduce the full signal = flow and midi control happening in my beloved Audiomulch patch:
http://www.ungui= tar.com/600/

In Bidule I just cannot find the way to manage single plugins' preset c= hange.
In Audiomulch each plugin ( module in Bidule and contraption in Audiomulch)= has an internal preset list that you can recall via midi ( Program Change = in this case).
I have things patched so that when I send PC messages all the plugins move = to a specific preset.
I am not able to find how to manage this in Bidule.

thank you for the OT permission!

luca



Il 2016-09-09 15:28 Per Boysen ha scritto:
Why not post the Qs to the list? We are many Bidule afficionados here.

fredag 9 september 2016 skrev Luca - Unguitar <luca@unguitar.com&= gt;:

Does anyone on the list have a certain familiarity with Bidule and
be so kind to reply to some questions?

I'm testing it as well and I need to have some points cleared before going on.

thank you

--

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com [1]
www.boysen.se [2]

Links:
------
[1] http://www.perbo= ysen.com
[2] http://www.boysen.se=



--

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boys= en
www.perboysen.= com
www.boysen.se=
--001a11478c987a2296053c14df54-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 9 15:50:45 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 726CDFF94B; Fri, 9 Sep 2016 15:50:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2613 seconds by postgrey-1.35 at arsenic; Fri, 09 Sep 2016 15:50:45 UTC Subject: Re: Plogue Bidule anyone? References: <6a20e69e-6dc4-eb64-6d60-e696808dd46e@unguitar.com> To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: dh.draper@virgin.net From: Dave Draper Message-ID: <701d45f6-b15c-1087-698e-42ba7dc3eb68@virgin.net> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 16:07:13 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6a20e69e-6dc4-eb64-6d60-e696808dd46e@unguitar.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-smarthost03a-IP: [82.69.58.35] Feedback-ID: 82.69.58.35 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125230 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 15:50:45 +0000 (UTC) Hi Luca Yes, I use bidule, to host mobius....but also in it I've built some Softstep software to replace the KMI editor, and developed a sort of stereo sampler/looper/pitch-mangler thingy as a sort of pre-mobius fx unit! So I'm not using the 64 bit version of bidule, but am happy to share what meagre knowledge I've gleaned in the last five years or so. Dave On 09/09/2016 12:28, Luca - Unguitar wrote: > Does anyone on the list have a certain familiarity with Bidule and be > so kind to reply to some questions? > > I'm testing it as well and I need to have some points cleared before > going on. > > thank you From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 9 15:51:52 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98C57FF952; Fri, 9 Sep 2016 15:51:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Plogue Bidule anyone? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <6a20e69e-6dc4-eb64-6d60-e696808dd46e@unguitar.com> <40b433bc9bcd6a42321db67daae05c55@pop.unguitar.com> Reply-To: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk From: andy butler Message-ID: <57D2DA93.1070508@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 16:51:47 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <40b433bc9bcd6a42321db67daae05c55@pop.unguitar.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TM-AS-MML: disable X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1679-8.0.0.1202-22566.000 X-TM-AS-Result: No--19.620-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--19.620-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: vbSD0OnL8/I2rfj68U2fhXuTVkeYosXt0nXvwjW2mSXjsTquy0JRiwJi /2DIfq9RGBKpL8tPwnFRqOePwSEzxQDoy+3QCCENzLXCqipuTk/4uJ1REX4MHexexZd6ZS3Chls 0WvdOE0NG+g3V2mGa8r2Txr8KGQNJb89xWAPc2vujrlYm3WTU76jwr0E49lePvQ29y6lPR1vJFI SlnPoMD5RmR8Er129Luiq5dPS9gSMqTBzVh9/WEBr+10dyfQUqa/fioJ9l4Hiyd65qZFFPk/MTu IrC6WWh+pOkJgchcK2ssgH08nDQaS2ipwrRwiZXQpxiLlDD9FV+S5m2/8VLmqsBzqYcu+TQmT7y kWM70CRMTzFEdvLYDjTxziLd4uwqQaaMfaF/obcER9Ta+6BEXfHTCzUww3PimyiLZetSf8nJ4y0 wP1A6AGoo0ds9lktqdzO/yc8X33HdB/CxWTRRuyUIayx+Skid Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125231 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 15:51:52 +0000 (UTC) If the plugins have a midi in (will show as an input on top of plugin in Bidule layout) then you can just route the midi into them. That's how our plugins work. Otherwise I'm not sure I'm afraid, bet Per knows :-) i found the below in the Bidule manual.....but it's only part of the answer, ...and I ought to be working right now. andy Automating Presets Every plug-in, bidule, and group has a parameter called Preset Number that can be linked to automatically switch the active preset for that bidule. Link one parameter to the Present Number parameter in the Parameters dialog box. (See User Interface>Toolbar Features>Parameter Linking for more on linking parameters in Bidule.) On 09/09/2016 15:31, luca@unguitar.com wrote: > sure, > > I just don't want to be banned as an OT starter ;-) > > I'm testing Bidule and I've been able to reproduce the full signal flow and midi control happening in my beloved Audiomulch patch: > http://www.unguitar.com/600/ > > In Bidule I just cannot find the way to manage single plugins' preset change. > In Audiomulch each plugin ( module in Bidule and contraption in Audiomulch) has an internal preset list that you can recall via midi ( Program Change in this case). > I have things patched so that when I send PC messages all the plugins move to a specific preset. > I am not able to find how to manage this in Bidule. > > thank you for the OT permission! > > luca > > > > Il 2016-09-09 15:28 Per Boysen ha scritto: >> Why not post the Qs to the list? We are many Bidule afficionados here. >> >> fredag 9 september 2016 skrev Luca - Unguitar : >> >>> Does anyone on the list have a certain familiarity with Bidule and >>> be so kind to reply to some questions? >>> >>> I'm testing it as well and I need to have some points cleared before >>> going on. >>> >>> thank you >> >> -- >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.perboysen.com [1] >> www.boysen.se [2] >> >> >> Links: >> ------ >> [1] http://www.perboysen.com >> [2] http://www.boysen.se > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 9 17:18:16 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B0C1FF950; Fri, 9 Sep 2016 17:18:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=1/0e10H1jygPEsYfyR9oJwKnbMGIFwI69+1jnguABSg=; b=QmYHQE8S5DXuEaClTbFKGsr+b/j7yMN9QYPXQ0RzqL0ZZFBTc+KWV5TslRmX6WOM6k I31659/tgaQqjbhnf52ERYB4TDo1x47H7xdV/jRahVB+7BvJA5JgOoCOqMOozbLNWkGv MNFHPwW/dj3a82YECZkmdpOr8GLIqXSduWW9U4TC+PEjFDVb+EfOa5mpL5qRQ52ALT0t iO8b9ZhneRctkv8kSS4COV8pZWsDAtdBEOQ9XwdA6qWloC/7Mfd7bQvCCDI5KI0qaTjw VcVWLGXW+4krfhJ5OfxqI2V4AWvfkfFpcQuXBaT7KpDCUeymNGS9OCGgR97sYWL/kqUO AOcQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=1/0e10H1jygPEsYfyR9oJwKnbMGIFwI69+1jnguABSg=; b=NrzSlAV5aHql4I0snxdtOwktp/O5yiznMQVUamNMw67loyPK65VVplC5sPDrhmMrWI tR417TY83xWW5Spd3WyZMu+IlXidPkMxcf9Q8mXAFpmjc7h79CcOYFbgVBF/wQ8jxtoZ N83Lu9YiXiKVuvAr7wF0Hcmp906khcUaNDR9AJTecsbKmDLmAOuSEfXuogM71CvwLxJl hUBHphvMSSY6jkh9zqT1pIxrYWt+hDwbFoIctxZZnE5rhfnHOsysvzclj/n6fku6CFVd xfUAyKqe8lSTREBkFq6g3fr3QRdFnNvmVKUJ2phKTlNxAxcSPFI7DAHCR6WR7NB2mFGq x3pA== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwPIlzLljqm3NQkgzEfaB9bnpYRfAO1XwMHeSDDAJMcA4s95hkV7Zz5VY2mH8IB3yXTz3H+lu70eqpTWBw== X-Received: by 10.202.82.193 with SMTP id g184mr7438165oib.184.1473441495173; Fri, 09 Sep 2016 10:18:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <6a20e69e-6dc4-eb64-6d60-e696808dd46e@unguitar.com> <40b433bc9bcd6a42321db67daae05c55@pop.unguitar.com> From: Fabio_A Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 19:18:14 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Plogue Bidule anyone? To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113b0602ead24d053c165461 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125232 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 17:18:16 +0000 (UTC) --001a113b0602ead24d053c165461 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What Per suggests is less CPU demanding, cos it allows one istance at time to work. If you need to change preset of the same plugin, you can do that: midi learn fuction will make it easy. FYI: you can also drag into the bidule layout a MIDI module (Connect it to the plugin) to see what happens. -f Il venerd=C3=AC 9 settembre 2016, Per Boysen ha scrit= to: > To handle plugin presets in Bidule is best done in a similar way as > Mainstge and Ableton Live (the Rack trick). > > Bidule has an object called Audio Switcher. Each if its "tags" > (patch/channel/preset) correspondss to a unique MIDI Program Change numbe= r > (on the input side). So if you send PC#3 into the Audio Switcher, the > plugin instance associated with tag #3 will get routed to the Audio > Switcher's output. In order to associate a specific plugin with a certain > tag you need to open the global midi bindings window (top of work > space) and click those objects. The idea is to create many plugin > instances, each one loaded with a unique plugin preset. This makes preset > switching smooth with no audio glitches. One can also use a Switcher tag = to > activate a a complex system of many routed plugns. > > There is also a useful Group, that a helpful guy at the Bidule forum once > built for me, that listens to the tail of the previous preset, during the > switching, and keeps that line open until the old preset's tail has faded > out (let me know later if you want me to send over that Group, right now > I'm out street busking with the iPhone). > > fredag 9 september 2016 skrev >: > >> sure, >> >> I just don't want to be banned as an OT starter ;-) >> >> I'm testing Bidule and I've been able to reproduce the full signal flow >> and midi control happening in my beloved Audiomulch patch: >> http://www.unguitar.com/600/ >> >> In Bidule I just cannot find the way to manage single plugins' preset >> change. >> In Audiomulch each plugin ( module in Bidule and contraption in >> Audiomulch) has an internal preset list that you can recall via midi ( >> Program Change in this case). >> I have things patched so that when I send PC messages all the plugins >> move to a specific preset. >> I am not able to find how to manage this in Bidule. >> >> thank you for the OT permission! >> >> luca >> >> >> >> Il 2016-09-09 15:28 Per Boysen ha scritto: >> >>> Why not post the Qs to the list? We are many Bidule afficionados here. >>> >>> fredag 9 september 2016 skrev Luca - Unguitar : >>> >>> Does anyone on the list have a certain familiarity with Bidule and >>>> be so kind to reply to some questions? >>>> >>>> I'm testing it as well and I need to have some points cleared before >>>> going on. >>>> >>>> thank you >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Greetings from Sweden >>> >>> Per Boysen >>> www.perboysen.com [1] >>> www.boysen.se [2] >>> >>> >>> Links: >>> ------ >>> [1] http://www.perboysen.com >>> [2] http://www.boysen.se >>> >> >> > > -- > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > www.boysen.se > --001a113b0602ead24d053c165461 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What Per suggests is less CPU demanding, cos it allows one istance at time = to work.
If you need to =C2=A0change preset of the same plugin, you can= do that: midi learn fuction will make it easy.
FYI: you can also= drag into the bidule=C2=A0layout a MIDI=C2=A0module (Connect it to the plu= gin)=C2=A0to see what=C2=A0happens.

-f

Il v= enerd=C3=AC 9 settembre 2016, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> ha scritto:
To handle plugin presets in Bidule is best done in a similar way as= Mainstge and Ableton Live (the Rack trick).

Bidule has = an object called Audio Switcher. Each if its "tags" (patch/channe= l/preset) correspondss to a unique MIDI Program Change number (on the input= side). So if you send PC#3 into the Audio Switcher, the plugin instance as= sociated with tag #3 will get routed to the Audio Switcher's output. In= order to associate a specific plugin with a certain tag you need to open t= he global midi bindings window (top of work space)=C2=A0and click those obj= ects. The idea is to create many plugin instances, each one loaded with a u= nique plugin preset. This makes preset switching smooth with no audio glitc= hes. One can also use a Switcher tag to activate a =C2=A0a complex system o= f many routed plugns.

There is also a useful Group= , that a helpful guy at the Bidule forum once built for me, that listens to= the=C2=A0tail of the previous preset, during the switching, a= nd keeps that line open until the old preset's tail has faded out (let = me know later=C2=A0if you want me to send over that Group, right now I'= m out street busking with the iPhone).

fredag 9 september 2016 skrev= <luca@unguitar.com>:
sure,

I just don't want to be banned as an OT starter ;-)

I'm testing Bidule and I've been able to reproduce the full signal = flow and midi control happening in my beloved Audiomulch patch:
http://www.ungui= tar.com/600/

In Bidule I just cannot find the way to manage single plugins' preset c= hange.
In Audiomulch each plugin ( module in Bidule and contraption in Audiomulch)= has an internal preset list that you can recall via midi ( Program Change = in this case).
I have things patched so that when I send PC messages all the plugins move = to a specific preset.
I am not able to find how to manage this in Bidule.

thank you for the OT permission!

luca



Il 2016-09-09 15:28 Per Boysen ha scritto:
Why not post the Qs to the list? We are many Bidule afficionados here.

fredag 9 september 2016 skrev Luca - Unguitar <luca@unguitar.com&= gt;:

Does anyone on the list have a certain familiarity with Bidule and
be so kind to reply to some questions?

I'm testing it as well and I need to have some points cleared before going on.

thank you

--

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com [1]
www.boysen.se [2]

Links:
------
[1] http://www.perbo= ysen.com
[2] http://www.boysen.se=



--

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boys= en
www.perboysen.= com
www.boysen.se=
--001a113b0602ead24d053c165461-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 10 07:39:01 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A67F514390C; Sat, 10 Sep 2016 07:39:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Plogue Bidule anyone? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <6a20e69e-6dc4-eb64-6d60-e696808dd46e@unguitar.com> <40b433bc9bcd6a42321db67daae05c55@pop.unguitar.com> From: Luca - Unguitar Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 09:38:58 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------82DE60F4F80CA04D9EF50216" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125233 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 07:39:01 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------82DE60F4F80CA04D9EF50216 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit thank you Per, Andy, Dave and Fabio, good to know there are so many Bidule users here! It's a nice feeling as I've been an almost solitary Audiomulch user for such a long time. I will investigate the possibilities of the Audio Switcher, I need to know hot it works with plugins placed in series where one's output goes in the next one's input. Groups are good but it looks tome I'm loosing a certain visual feedback of what's happening and the chance to switch single plugins on/off. One question: it looks like Mobius is working on Bidule 64 bit or does it mean I have installed the 32 bit by mistake? Luca On 09/09/16 19:18, Fabio_A wrote: > What Per suggests is less CPU demanding, cos it allows one istance at > time to work. > If you need to change preset of the same plugin, you can do that: > midi learn fuction will make it easy. > FYI: you can also drag into the bidule layout a MIDI module (Connect > it to the plugin) to see what happens. > > -f > > Il venerdì 9 settembre 2016, Per Boysen > ha scritto: > > To handle plugin presets in Bidule is best done in a similar way > as Mainstge and Ableton Live (the Rack trick). > > Bidule has an object called Audio Switcher. Each if its "tags" > (patch/channel/preset) correspondss to a unique MIDI Program > Change number (on the input side). So if you send PC#3 into the > Audio Switcher, the plugin instance associated with tag #3 will > get routed to the Audio Switcher's output. In order to associate a > specific plugin with a certain tag you need to open the global > midi bindings window (top of work space) and click those objects. > The idea is to create many plugin instances, each one loaded with > a unique plugin preset. This makes preset switching smooth with no > audio glitches. One can also use a Switcher tag to activate a a > complex system of many routed plugns. > > There is also a useful Group, that a helpful guy at the Bidule > forum once built for me, that listens to the tail of the previous > preset, during the switching, and keeps that line open until the > old preset's tail has faded out (let me know later if you want me > to send over that Group, right now I'm out street busking with the > iPhone). > > fredag 9 september 2016 skrev >: > > sure, > > I just don't want to be banned as an OT starter ;-) > > I'm testing Bidule and I've been able to reproduce the full > signal flow and midi control happening in my beloved > Audiomulch patch: > http://www.unguitar.com/600/ > > In Bidule I just cannot find the way to manage single plugins' > preset change. > In Audiomulch each plugin ( module in Bidule and contraption > in Audiomulch) has an internal preset list that you can recall > via midi ( Program Change in this case). > I have things patched so that when I send PC messages all the > plugins move to a specific preset. > I am not able to find how to manage this in Bidule. > > thank you for the OT permission! > > luca > > > > Il 2016-09-09 15:28 Per Boysen ha scritto: > > Why not post the Qs to the list? We are many Bidule > afficionados here. > > fredag 9 september 2016 skrev Luca - Unguitar > : > > Does anyone on the list have a certain familiarity > with Bidule and > be so kind to reply to some questions? > > I'm testing it as well and I need to have some points > cleared before > going on. > > thank you > > > -- > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com [1] > www.boysen.se [2] > > > Links: > ------ > [1] http://www.perboysen.com > [2] http://www.boysen.se > > > > > -- > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > www.boysen.se > --------------82DE60F4F80CA04D9EF50216 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
thank you Per, Andy, Dave and Fabio,

good to know there are so many Bidule users here! It's a nice feeling as I've been an almost solitary Audiomulch user for such a long time.

I will investigate the possibilities of the Audio Switcher, I need to know hot it works with plugins placed in series where one's output goes in the next one's input.

Groups are good but it looks tome I'm loosing a certain visual feedback of what's happening and the chance to switch single plugins on/off.

One question: it looks like Mobius is working on Bidule 64 bit or does it mean I have installed the 32 bit by mistake?
Luca

On 09/09/16 19:18, Fabio_A wrote:
What Per suggests is less CPU demanding, cos it allows one istance at time to work.
If you need to  change preset of the same plugin, you can do that: midi learn fuction will make it easy.
FYI: you can also drag into the bidule layout a MIDI module (Connect it to the plugin) to see what happens.

-f

Il venerdì 9 settembre 2016, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> ha scritto:
To handle plugin presets in Bidule is best done in a similar way as Mainstge and Ableton Live (the Rack trick).

Bidule has an object called Audio Switcher. Each if its "tags" (patch/channel/preset) correspondss to a unique MIDI Program Change number (on the input side). So if you send PC#3 into the Audio Switcher, the plugin instance associated with tag #3 will get routed to the Audio Switcher's output. In order to associate a specific plugin with a certain tag you need to open the global midi bindings window (top of work space) and click those objects. The idea is to create many plugin instances, each one loaded with a unique plugin preset. This makes preset switching smooth with no audio glitches. One can also use a Switcher tag to activate a  a complex system of many routed plugns.

There is also a useful Group, that a helpful guy at the Bidule forum once built for me, that listens to the tail of the previous preset, during the switching, and keeps that line open until the old preset's tail has faded out (let me know later if you want me to send over that Group, right now I'm out street busking with the iPhone).

fredag 9 september 2016 skrev <luca@unguitar.com>:
sure,

I just don't want to be banned as an OT starter ;-)

I'm testing Bidule and I've been able to reproduce the full signal flow and midi control happening in my beloved Audiomulch patch:
http://www.unguitar.com/600/

In Bidule I just cannot find the way to manage single plugins' preset change.
In Audiomulch each plugin ( module in Bidule and contraption in Audiomulch) has an internal preset list that you can recall via midi ( Program Change in this case).
I have things patched so that when I send PC messages all the plugins move to a specific preset.
I am not able to find how to manage this in Bidule.

thank you for the OT permission!

luca



Il 2016-09-09 15:28 Per Boysen ha scritto:
Why not post the Qs to the list? We are many Bidule afficionados here.

fredag 9 september 2016 skrev Luca - Unguitar <luca@unguitar.com>:

Does anyone on the list have a certain familiarity with Bidule and
be so kind to reply to some questions?

I'm testing it as well and I need to have some points cleared before
going on.

thank you

--

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com [1]
www.boysen.se [2]


Links:
------
[1] http://www.perboysen.com
[2] http://www.boysen.se



--

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
www.boysen.se


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To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1135a0e04e1989053c25c211 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125234 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 11:42:35 +0000 (UTC) --001a1135a0e04e1989053c25c211 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable l=C3=B6rdag 10 september 2016 skrev Luca - Unguitar : > thank you Per, Andy, Dave and Fabio, > > He, he... Either th, or you installed Bidule 42 bit "by mistake". > > One question: it looks like Mobius is working on Bidule 64 bit or does it > mean I have installed the 32 bit by mistake? > Luca > > On 09/09/16 19:18, Fabio_A wrote: > > What Per suggests is less CPU demanding, cos it allows one istance at tim= e > to work. > If you need to change preset of the same plugin, you can do that: midi > learn fuction will make it easy. > FYI: you can also drag into the bidule layout a MIDI module (Connect it t= o > the plugin) to see what happens. > > -f > > Il venerd=C3=AC 9 settembre 2016, Per Boysen > ha scritto: > >> To handle plugin presets in Bidule is best done in a similar way as >> Mainstge and Ableton Live (the Rack trick). >> >> Bidule has an object called Audio Switcher. Each if its "tags" >> (patch/channel/preset) correspondss to a unique MIDI Program Change numb= er >> (on the input side). So if you send PC#3 into the Audio Switcher, the >> plugin instance associated with tag #3 will get routed to the Audio >> Switcher's output. In order to associate a specific plugin with a certai= n >> tag you need to open the global midi bindings window (top of work >> space) and click those objects. The idea is to create many plugin >> instances, each one loaded with a unique plugin preset. This makes prese= t >> switching smooth with no audio glitches. One can also use a Switcher tag= to >> activate a a complex system of many routed plugns. >> >> There is also a useful Group, that a helpful guy at the Bidule forum onc= e >> built for me, that listens to the tail of the previous preset, during >> the switching, and keeps that line open until the old preset's tail has >> faded out (let me know later if you want me to send over that Group, rig= ht >> now I'm out street busking with the iPhone). >> >> fredag 9 september 2016 skrev : >> >>> sure, >>> >>> I just don't want to be banned as an OT starter ;-) >>> >>> I'm testing Bidule and I've been able to reproduce the full signal flow >>> and midi control happening in my beloved Audiomulch patch: >>> http://www.unguitar.com/600/ >>> >>> In Bidule I just cannot find the way to manage single plugins' preset >>> change. >>> In Audiomulch each plugin ( module in Bidule and contraption in >>> Audiomulch) has an internal preset list that you can recall via midi ( >>> Program Change in this case). >>> I have things patched so that when I send PC messages all the plugins >>> move to a specific preset. >>> I am not able to find how to manage this in Bidule. >>> >>> thank you for the OT permission! >>> >>> luca >>> >>> >>> >>> Il 2016-09-09 15:28 Per Boysen ha scritto: >>> >>>> Why not post the Qs to the list? We are many Bidule afficionados here. >>>> >>>> fredag 9 september 2016 skrev Luca - Unguitar : >>>> >>>> Does anyone on the list have a certain familiarity with Bidule and >>>>> be so kind to reply to some questions? >>>>> >>>>> I'm testing it as well and I need to have some points cleared before >>>>> going on. >>>>> >>>>> thank you >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Greetings from Sweden >>>> >>>> Per Boysen >>>> www.perboysen.com [1] >>>> www.boysen.se [2] >>>> >>>> >>>> Links: >>>> ------ >>>> [1] http://www.perboysen.com >>>> [2] http://www.boysen.se >>>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.perboysen.com >> www.boysen.se >> > > --=20 Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com www.boysen.se --001a1135a0e04e1989053c25c211 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

l=C3=B6rdag 10 september 2016 skrev Luca - Unguitar <luca@unguitar.com>:
=20 =20 =20
thank you Per, Andy, Dave and Fabio,

He, he... Either th, or you installed Bidule 42 bit "by mist= ake".

One question: it looks like Mobius is working on Bidule 64 bit or does it mean I have installed the 32 bit by mistake?
Luca

On 09/09/16 19:18, Fabio_A wrote:
What Per suggests is less CPU demanding, cos = it allows one istance at time to work.
If you need to =C2=A0change preset of the same plugin, you can d= o that: midi learn fuction will make it easy.
FYI: you can also drag into the bidule=C2=A0layout a MIDI=C2=A0m= odule (Connect it to the plugin)=C2=A0to see what=C2=A0happens.

-f

Il venerd=C3=AC 9 settembre 2016, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> ha scritto:
To handle plugin presets in Bidule is best done in a similar way as Mainstge and Ableton Live (the Rack trick).

Bidule has an object called Audio Switcher. Each if its "tags" (patch/channel/preset) correspondss to a uniqu= e MIDI Program Change number (on the input side). So if you send PC#3 into the Audio Switcher, the plugin instance associated with tag #3 will get routed to the Audio Switcher's output. In order to associate a specific plugin with a certain tag you need to open the global midi bindings window (top of work space)=C2=A0and click those objects. The idea is to create many plugin instances, each one loaded with a unique plugin preset. This makes preset switching smooth with no audio glitches. One can also use a Switcher tag to activate a =C2=A0a complex system of many routed plugns.

There is also a useful Group, that a helpful guy at the Bidule forum once built for me, that listens to the=C2=A0tail of the previous preset, during the switching, and keeps that line open until the old preset's tail has faded out (let me know later=C2=A0if you want me to send over that Group, right n= ow I'm out street busking with the iPhone).

fredag 9 september 2016 skrev <luca@unguitar.com>:=
sure,

I just don't want to be banned as an OT starter ;-)

I'm testing Bidule and I've been able to reproduce th= e full signal flow and midi control happening in my beloved Audiomulch patch:
ht= tp://www.unguitar.com/600/

In Bidule I just cannot find the way to manage single plugins' preset change.
In Audiomulch each plugin ( module in Bidule and contraption in Audiomulch) has an internal preset list that you can recall via midi ( Program Change in this case).
I have things patched so that when I send PC messages all the plugins move to a specific preset.
I am not able to find how to manage this in Bidule.

thank you for the OT permission!

luca



Il 2016-09-09 15:28 Per Boysen ha scritto:
Why not post the Qs to the list? We are many Bidule afficionados here.

fredag 9 september 2016 skrev Luca - Unguitar <luca@u= nguitar.com>:

Does anyone on the list have a certain familiarity with Bidule and
be so kind to reply to some questions?

I'm testing it as well and I need to have some points cleared before
going on.

thank you

--

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.= perboysen.com [1]
www.boys= en.se [2]


Links:
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[1] = http://www.perboysen.com
[2] http= ://www.boysen.se



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Greetings from Sweden

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www.boysen.se<= /a>




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www.boysen.se --001a1135a0e04e1989053c25c211-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 10 13:21:23 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2991914390C; Sat, 10 Sep 2016 13:21:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Plogue Bidule anyone? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <6a20e69e-6dc4-eb64-6d60-e696808dd46e@unguitar.com> <40b433bc9bcd6a42321db67daae05c55@pop.unguitar.com> From: Luca - Unguitar Message-ID: <40ba3c65-7a0d-d48c-faa5-adeb4ccb1c73@unguitar.com> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 15:21:20 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------42CD4BF990A1E1159EFE6D7E" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125235 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 13:21:23 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------42CD4BF990A1E1159EFE6D7E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit damn, I was dreaming that Bidule had a sort of magic 32 to 64 converter as Bitwig does, while I had just installed Bidule 32 instead of 64. Per Boysen wrote: > > > He, he... Either th, or you installed Bidule 42 bit "by mistake". > Luca wrote: > > One question: it looks like Mobius is working on Bidule 64 bit or > does it mean I have installed the 32 bit by mistake? > Luca > --------------42CD4BF990A1E1159EFE6D7E Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
damn, I was dreaming that Bidule had a sort of magic 32 to 64 converter as Bitwig does, while I had just installed Bidule 32 instead of 64.


Per Boysen wrote:

He, he... Either th, or you installed Bidule 42 bit "by mistake".
Luca wrote:
One question: it looks like Mobius is working on Bidule 64 bit or does it mean I have installed the 32 bit by mistake?
Luca

--------------42CD4BF990A1E1159EFE6D7E-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 10 15:22:12 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7BE5014390C; Sat, 10 Sep 2016 15:22:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=rH5Ns3Voln3cN99vEqjGk8BFUoxirklfUN4xfRPotGk=; b=ERYV7aS3kX6s1JCrRE/X3BJSgGU3ydhWxnqX1xj2QTCq+GOUeEPL+Jg3NCVs2vVRsb ssRxiO4avtXvrxBrlsbdv+7quSR7RqbgPWIKMb9C6ajhONEWWgwIv9J9LmnzmqjeKDJ7 As0QbRrUXfGkKlQVRlcSVdXev62Nf4p0BWXFboZGTuybD+gsnBHFEB2zyI2cuWhfcBqd TAFOWKLt3ZvwAkDxN3m5xukBm9WxB4V7awJgmEouTK3dY/kfFrFcSrOW9SQil2W/g4FW 5y9ZgOnIL0p1hfWxGQ8g0vdTonbeiUFqFtS1NPq77MZuroRCf0AikY78lINXkgQAdSXD +W0w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=rH5Ns3Voln3cN99vEqjGk8BFUoxirklfUN4xfRPotGk=; b=kkvR96Gf5p8Z8Tv61gUqEdzctHGGMxDYzQaZjFFMdjh0jwgqm1DnXwwrVVw8sEdFJl JrCTFbODYEARjTlRsi4bYdMHrhHCQ7M/aSxx2/vmEIoJZt4W4HVlQxJ9LYQ5ZY98TgC0 QvODi+PQKQiory/pLwCBT3RjdPyKqrlfnPcKelwqnYD1kEU2fd0XLduAIvR7PIYRW75g +Ut8wXr86Jiyn5EP2pkl6jaZJhtb43BEm3AZaXDFFpLQb5Dp2f3SKpqbtDJCiSHUcSOY qrUzXTBzLAU64JGj0/NV6FxvTbAb3UqRf+qm61NSUa14q2U8SB2E6RLB3NSbxc+8Mvwf I0fg== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwMJYBO94XclUYdAAmh8XkdkqCc//mUyrKks6DFgwm1oIXUVjP1zNqD2qx0k6Na2dBdf3gXYoiFzzRceDQ== X-Received: by 10.55.31.76 with SMTP id f73mr9708353qkf.260.1473520931746; Sat, 10 Sep 2016 08:22:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <40ba3c65-7a0d-d48c-faa5-adeb4ccb1c73@unguitar.com> References: <6a20e69e-6dc4-eb64-6d60-e696808dd46e@unguitar.com> <40b433bc9bcd6a42321db67daae05c55@pop.unguitar.com> <40ba3c65-7a0d-d48c-faa5-adeb4ccb1c73@unguitar.com> From: Per Boysen Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 17:22:10 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Plogue Bidule anyone? To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1147d536b4b873053c28d35b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125236 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 15:22:12 +0000 (UTC) --001a1147d536b4b873053c28d35b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just a short note on Bitwig, since you mentioned it: Bitwig can not follow an invoming MIDI clock tempo signal. For me that is a showstopper. I love Bitwig as a DAW but definitely not as a looper plugin host, since I want to set the global tempo for my entite rig by my playing and live-looping (Mobius generating the tempo within a set tempo interval). Of the hosts I have tried so far I think Bidule has the best ability to follow external sync (from looper plugin/appl) while hosting effect plugins that line up to that tempo). Mainstage comes second in this regard. I have also used Live as looper slave but think that it looses sync too often (may work better with Abletons new, propriaty, sync protocol... Yet no experience with that, though) l=C3=B6rdag 10 september 2016 skrev Luca - Unguitar : > damn, I was dreaming that Bidule had a sort of magic 32 to 64 converter a= s > Bitwig does, while I had just installed Bidule 32 instead of 64. > > > Per Boysen wrote: > > >> He, he... Either th, or you installed Bidule 42 bit "by mistake". >> > Luca wrote: > > One question: it looks like Mobius is working on Bidule 64 bit or does it >> mean I have installed the 32 bit by mistake? >> Luca >> > > --=20 Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com www.boysen.se --001a1147d536b4b873053c28d35b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just a short note on Bitwig, since you mentioned it: Bitwig can not follow = an invoming MIDI clock tempo signal. For me that is a showstopper. I love B= itwig as a DAW but definitely not as a looper plugin host, since I want to = set the global tempo for my entite rig by my playing and live-looping (Mobi= us generating the tempo within a set tempo interval).=C2=A0

<= div>Of the hosts I have tried so far I think Bidule has the best ability=C2= =A0to follow external sync (from looper plugin/appl) while hosting effect p= lugins that line up to that tempo). Mainstage comes second in this regard. = I have also=C2=A0used Live as looper slave but think that it looses sync to= o often (may work better with Abletons new, propriaty, sync protocol... Yet= no experience with that, though)

l=C3=B6rdag 10 septem= ber 2016 skrev Luca - Unguitar <luc= a@unguitar.com>:
=20 =20 =20
damn, I was dreaming that Bidule had a sort of magic 32 to 64 converter as Bitwig does, while I had just installed Bidule 32 instead of 64.


Per Boysen wrote:

He, he... Either th, or you installed Bidule 42 bit "by mistake".
Luca wrote:
One question: it looks like Mobius is working on Bidule 64 bit or does it mean I have installed the 32 bit by mistake?
Luca



--

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boys= en
www.perboysen.= com
www.boysen.se=
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Sat, 10 Sep 2016 23:59:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Plogue Bidule anyone? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <6a20e69e-6dc4-eb64-6d60-e696808dd46e@unguitar.com> <40b433bc9bcd6a42321db67daae05c55@pop.unguitar.com> <40ba3c65-7a0d-d48c-faa5-adeb4ccb1c73@unguitar.com> From: Luca - Unguitar Message-ID: <308a0919-9a6b-1ad2-8aac-6509110938b6@unguitar.com> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 01:59:20 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------EC07AF2113B644F28C249AB8" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125238 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 23:59:22 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------EC07AF2113B644F28C249AB8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit yes Per, i hear you! it's been a bad find to see Bitwig fall so bad in that ( as did Live, I agree). On the other hand there is a lot of very smart thinking inside of it ( Bitwig). I feel I'm wasting too much time to reproduce and check my set up in all these environments and still feel far from the solution. I've tried Live, Max, Live professor, Bitwig, Usine, Blogxpander, Bluecats' mixers and other applications, Cantabile and some other I've uninstalled. It looks like "our" use of such applications doesn't interest most sw developers. Beside this what makes me upset and sad is the lack of conventions in many aspects of plugins development and the lack of responsibility of many developers who've abandoned their applications without even thinking about making their codes available to allow updates. On 10/09/16 17:22, Per Boysen wrote: > Just a short note on Bitwig, since you mentioned it: Bitwig can not > follow an invoming MIDI clock tempo signal. For me that is a > showstopper. I love Bitwig as a DAW but definitely not as a looper > plugin host, since I want to set the global tempo for my entite rig by > my playing and live-looping (Mobius generating the tempo within a set > tempo interval). > > Of the hosts I have tried so far I think Bidule has the best > ability to follow external sync (from looper plugin/appl) while > hosting effect plugins that line up to that tempo). Mainstage comes > second in this regard. I have also used Live as looper slave but think > that it looses sync too often (may work better with Abletons new, > propriaty, sync protocol... Yet no experience with that, though) > > lördag 10 september 2016 skrev Luca - Unguitar >: > > damn, I was dreaming that Bidule had a sort of magic 32 to 64 > converter as Bitwig does, while I had just installed Bidule 32 > instead of 64. > > > Per Boysen wrote: >> >> >> He, he... Either th, or you installed Bidule 42 bit "by mistake". >> > Luca wrote: >> >> One question: it looks like Mobius is working on Bidule 64 >> bit or does it mean I have installed the 32 bit by mistake? >> Luca >> > > > > -- > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > www.boysen.se --------------EC07AF2113B644F28C249AB8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
yes Per, i hear you!

it's been a bad find to see Bitwig fall so bad in that ( as did Live, I agree).
On the other hand there is a lot of very smart thinking inside of it ( Bitwig).

I feel I'm wasting too much time to reproduce and check my set up in all these environments and still feel far from the solution.
I've tried Live, Max, Live professor, Bitwig, Usine, Blogxpander, Bluecats' mixers and other applications, Cantabile and some other I've uninstalled.

It looks like "our" use of such applications doesn't interest most sw developers.

Beside this what makes me upset and sad is the lack of conventions in many aspects of plugins development and the lack of responsibility of many developers who've abandoned their applications without even thinking about making their codes available to allow updates.


On 10/09/16 17:22, Per Boysen wrote:
Just a short note on Bitwig, since you mentioned it: Bitwig can not follow an invoming MIDI clock tempo signal. For me that is a showstopper. I love Bitwig as a DAW but definitely not as a looper plugin host, since I want to set the global tempo for my entite rig by my playing and live-looping (Mobius generating the tempo within a set tempo interval). 

Of the hosts I have tried so far I think Bidule has the best ability to follow external sync (from looper plugin/appl) while hosting effect plugins that line up to that tempo). Mainstage comes second in this regard. I have also used Live as looper slave but think that it looses sync too often (may work better with Abletons new, propriaty, sync protocol... Yet no experience with that, though)

lördag 10 september 2016 skrev Luca - Unguitar <luca@unguitar.com>:
damn, I was dreaming that Bidule had a sort of magic 32 to 64 converter as Bitwig does, while I had just installed Bidule 32 instead of 64.


Per Boysen wrote:

He, he... Either th, or you installed Bidule 42 bit "by mistake".
Luca wrote:
One question: it looks like Mobius is working on Bidule 64 bit or does it mean I have installed the 32 bit by mistake?
Luca



--

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
www.boysen.se


--------------EC07AF2113B644F28C249AB8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 12 20:48:46 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20B8A14390A; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 20:48:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com From: Luca - Unguitar Subject: The Gig Rack Message-ID: <6d0aa5fb-f9c4-d588-9eb4-862e89f1b47f@unguitar.com> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 22:48:43 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------00B91FE8D355D16222292408" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125239 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 20:48:46 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------00B91FE8D355D16222292408 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit while desperately seeking the audio routing and control environment for the next years I've found this: www.thegigrack.com They are currently in the beta process, to which i've applied today. It is a very essential platform and the people behind it seem pretty interested in making it work in a way that I think some of us might appreciate. --------------00B91FE8D355D16222292408 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

while desperately seeking the audio routing and control environment for the next years I've found this: www.thegigrack.com

They are currently in the beta process, to which i've applied today.

It is a very essential platform and the people behind it seem pretty interested in making it work in a way that I think some of us might appreciate.


--------------00B91FE8D355D16222292408-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 12 21:16:41 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1311814390B; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 21:16:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=+KW9WlGc8d8v6xahY9evbByFBwvYhH6CFzWEl7v/5j0=; b=JBsbz6WfEIv/AH8kna/pdqbvFHQGCNCHHs+Ty/F87hmOfzZWTsLusGBHIzfKsqRatu p0KQ+09Lmkx3yixlE7OI3hFuXRIb5Jophik914mx+IEkLkZQ9e2TRYmAN3Nd3eTpDrBc Ju0BzyGXpHacGc/wnaZ8sIDoNgh/NFbm29tFiK3IKGvIRTmHN990kteCS8LmvMpG3mQS 9UDZ3gx26/Q0CPekC5SPXq63rDBWhpJSBwpdxlWQjDEfKOS4+bHPHPBDuzxmwoYvxzI1 t7Rd6w/kxZ61XqIsh4C22/S6ffxTfFNcUrZkKqdNniRR4POT87lhrj0FIWcM0l4UBqyI LNIw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=+KW9WlGc8d8v6xahY9evbByFBwvYhH6CFzWEl7v/5j0=; b=dPuHEfT4Xmu8BcoKgMIhNSle9Fpm3s3BLiEseUnexAl6SKEsWwJbES+qeY7UlnOicv UJbGjtJrYICZJJsfr9eoqzbA79VyUlRYgB2tfbA2D4aLWtPLqI+ac0Qi9cWIhQWjqeQ+ nXPiJyGoIehIcEIwMGkUygXi0StquuwXYu9QsmE1FRhZeqSN5CsNd0nYON9KIqUzM5oX EEKVIJcwcKl76VgsDwscsOQACC43a60zsGxUHj2sfawW5HioXZijgAHvSz54Ls6v+Avt yfsCPZ0aCEpzGAMvMTCIl9PeKRVP8PTRM7TmAnAxQPvlQ+jruUm/B4QjdKLoDs2sR6kN JoSg== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwMv7a2eylvDUYgKp8I3EQovQ21UE1/uley4tkvOtBgnEUX0Vx7Wkp9R7hl7D4JDc8gfsLrrkjHAftpPZg== X-Received: by 10.55.31.76 with SMTP id f73mr21011300qkf.260.1473714999915; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 14:16:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6d0aa5fb-f9c4-d588-9eb4-862e89f1b47f@unguitar.com> References: <6d0aa5fb-f9c4-d588-9eb4-862e89f1b47f@unguitar.com> From: Per Boysen Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 23:16:39 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: The Gig Rack To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <8ckkC.A.ORD.4sx1XB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125240 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 21:16:41 +0000 (UTC) Cool! That seems to be an interesting product! I especially like their "Variations"; it seems to draw on channel-strips or patches in Logic/Mainstage, but is hopefully smoother for direct switching. THey didn't mention scaling on the site, but I can't imagine they won't have that as well. Richie Hawtin had a guy build him a similar solution for Live in Max4Live; a way to take snapshots of everything as you go and then return to any of those snapshots (total recall of all parameters in all plugins and host mixer). Logelloop goes a bit further by offering seamless morphing between snapshots (for all looper and plugin parameters including mixer), that can sound really cool when applied to speed/pitch-shift of live loops. Kick their beta asses to get it out soon, Luca! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com www.boysen.se On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 10:48 PM, Luca - Unguitar wrote: > while desperately seeking the audio routing and control environment for the > next years I've found this: www.thegigrack.com > > They are currently in the beta process, to which i've applied today. > > It is a very essential platform and the people behind it seem pretty > interested in making it work in a way that I think some of us might > appreciate. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 12 21:19:43 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0786E14390E; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 21:19:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Plogue Bidule anyone? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: From: Luca - Unguitar Message-ID: <6bf88725-f6d9-be52-fa39-3760bc9d98f6@unguitar.com> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 23:19:41 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------BB2BAF0F7F57EED43876D53B" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125241 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 21:19:43 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------BB2BAF0F7F57EED43876D53B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thank you Hal, I agree about Per's solution but I need to manage parallel chains of plugins and not parallel single plugins. I need an application that allows multiple plugins to change their preset and their bypass state via a single midi command ( PC or CC). Audiomulch is very essential by this point of view ( and with a deadly absence of bypass state) but allows a very easy preset midi mapping. Bidule's preset mapping is still very obscure to me and honestly surprised by the negation of Program Changes. More about it here: http://www.plogue.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7802 I feel the beloved LD list is way more reactive than Bidule's one by the way... I'd love Bidule to be the one, but it looks like its Developer's vision and goals are different than mine. My best and thanks for your kind help, luca On 11/09/16 01:27, Dean, Hal wrote: > FWIW, I am running a 64 bit Biddle layout with J-bridged versions of a > few 32bit VSTs, chief among them Mobius. Win7 on a refurbished i7 > ThinkPad. It is rock solid. > > Per's approach to changing presets on the fly is a basic part of my > setup. I have the screen set up to have preset names of active VSTs > across the top, so changes are readily visible, albeit small font that > would not be easy to read on a stage, on a laptop screen. > > The Biddle forum is very helpful too. > > All the best of luck with getting your setup in tune , > Hal > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone --------------BB2BAF0F7F57EED43876D53B Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
thank you Hal,

I agree about Per's solution but I need to manage parallel chains of plugins and not parallel single plugins.
I need an application that allows multiple plugins to change their preset and their bypass state via a single midi command ( PC or CC).
Audiomulch is very essential by this point of view ( and with a deadly absence of bypass state) but allows a very easy preset midi mapping.
Bidule's preset mapping is still very obscure to me and honestly surprised by the negation of Program Changes.

More about it here: http://www.plogue.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7802

I feel the beloved LD list is way more reactive than Bidule's one by the way...

I'd love Bidule to be the one, but it looks like its Developer's vision and goals are different than mine.

My best and thanks for your kind help,
luca


On 11/09/16 01:27, Dean, Hal wrote:
FWIW, I am running a 64 bit Biddle layout with J-bridged versions of a few 32bit VSTs, chief among them Mobius. Win7 on a refurbished i7 ThinkPad. It is rock solid.

Per's approach to changing presets on the fly is a basic part of my setup. I have the screen set up to have preset names of active VSTs across the top, so changes are readily visible, albeit small font that would not be easy to read on a stage, on a laptop screen.

The Biddle forum is very helpful too.

All the best of luck with getting your setup in tune ,
Hal



Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone


--------------BB2BAF0F7F57EED43876D53B-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 12 21:24:35 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 182D914390E; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 21:24:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: The Gig Rack To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <6d0aa5fb-f9c4-d588-9eb4-862e89f1b47f@unguitar.com> From: Luca - Unguitar Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 23:24:33 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3ohM7.A.neD.S0x1XB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125242 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 21:24:35 +0000 (UTC) yes, variations is exactly about that. I'm investigating and starting to stress the expectations. why don't you join Per? I think we could really help them to develop a nice product if we want. otherwise we might ask Ross Bencina to set up an LD version of Audiomulch which, when it would have reached the 64 bit and the multi core support, would still the best out there, imho. Per, have you ever checked its morphing surface??? On 12/09/16 23:16, Per Boysen wrote: > Cool! That seems to be an interesting product! I especially like their > "Variations"; it seems to draw on channel-strips or patches in > Logic/Mainstage, but is hopefully smoother for direct switching. THey > didn't mention scaling on the site, but I can't imagine they won't > have that as well. Richie Hawtin had a guy build him a similar > solution for Live in Max4Live; a way to take snapshots of everything > as you go and then return to any of those snapshots (total recall of > all parameters in all plugins and host mixer). Logelloop goes a bit > further by offering seamless morphing between snapshots (for all > looper and plugin parameters including mixer), that can sound really > cool when applied to speed/pitch-shift of live loops. > > Kick their beta asses to get it out soon, Luca! > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > www.boysen.se > > > On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 10:48 PM, Luca - Unguitar wrote: >> while desperately seeking the audio routing and control environment for the >> next years I've found this: www.thegigrack.com >> >> They are currently in the beta process, to which i've applied today. >> >> It is a very essential platform and the people behind it seem pretty >> interested in making it work in a way that I think some of us might >> appreciate. >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 12 22:27:13 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8EDD914390C; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 22:27:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=nbjIo1RE7gR9245BUDfibBlbPNDqAU0ST9QxVNnzdMk=; b=km86ZykpwI6v/NjnFeeQ47m2Rfi+n2MiCjSnrIe4vCwORJE+qqOxg7s/i2OEUxLXCA xuPc4B6yMjNCvI38VTHAemG9pb3HsFqe3JnhGU2DDuXIegDg4QXGPbjtrzajDN2yrSyr EKzMrSaPnv85dFogg1CHmFEuycwhW/PzgeL8k0murlnbMlB5HDlZQvJOJBH98GSByfF9 HH78ev8VraCjM8W0vj/GUw/5uxgs4ndebWoeCOcPl6hPaGfOcInhB8fwLs5xAeR7vNIK o+AYOS90OeoPueF/xXU1c12wlMDAU7R6X6aiRyWeUjZb1Yf4inW4pL2SzZr4/Eu79zXj Buxw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=nbjIo1RE7gR9245BUDfibBlbPNDqAU0ST9QxVNnzdMk=; b=JF5WqCN1PsZIQs9FXgItvR9pUdjQk7RF3Rd/ILYGGQjci4kMadgKSfsunf2vfuNNqE Bun8ggYUZV9Lavq3hOGaUPwc+RhSsw1CBg6BnqXos8T4ayGhliTYv/spqyETiX2tnDOi SHltBxvLMbwYMzCvwfiQ02Pe4B1wq9peqHGU2VPjVf1jv/q8fIiRkTjfiA4pbwv2F+MQ N/zRZ5iIFnfZP1IMo+4pBRkkaT5peI9oliuAiQiHrABKuXl4kMidWe7ay108LUd51L2F 5XiBsTVYfm51IWmfz9XnAZlWKG5MJ3uPXRvaRnoAgTu8TA4/qE2L4HluMAVg5dXQVbly ttdg== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwOdE52OOZu2mprU3/M27TJMNevv1hkXHbfDwfHn5ObjZf06qSDFjCD5AWObvYmEuN8MmAfDW7cKuNTLrQ== X-Received: by 10.233.232.149 with SMTP id a143mr22535064qkg.79.1473719232819; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 15:27:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <6d0aa5fb-f9c4-d588-9eb4-862e89f1b47f@unguitar.com> From: Per Boysen Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 00:27:12 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: The Gig Rack To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125243 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 22:27:13 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 11:24 PM, Luca - Unguitar wrote: > why don't you join Per? I'm already staggering under the workload of beta testing other products and I need to focus on working for money. > otherwise we might ask Ross Bencina to set up an LD version of Audiomulch > which, when it would have reached the 64 bit and the multi core support, > would still the best out there, imho. > Per, have you ever checked its morphing surface??? Yes. Mark Francombe showed me that back in 2010 when we both were in California for Rick's festival. A very cool feature. I'm doing that a lot; mostly in the AxeFxII box but also in Mainstage and Bidule; having one CC target many parameters and scaling the outcome differently, even crossfading where needed. We can't live without scaling, you know :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com www.boysen.se From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 12 22:33:00 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9A7C14390E; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 22:33:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Lbmx3jSp8YvM3AIYdL5xW+CbqcrwFz7Q2rIL32+CX/4=; b=0EmBCwwEsR5vrIWpmbGU5BQXNwHjbU4LLXcaekIYmWlrSBYu64gGc2diTaVQiiunkT VjMiU8r/FOvrV2D01TKzj25tpNfu8o/0x9nCXBjxso/iyLZPFBnAOQpckIdNC/MlqXiC TG/yH2rl1i09SVlogfQlgygBmXRjIcOdng/yrpdtILyE6RBk2RVWRf37BAej9x0QDXV2 h4jCBoeVfqnTgvyvQVY+AF5BTvh+a5sLODzYibmJk+1xx7qQRCp0ZEpAUw5A7rEk9UbQ qBJLvMWd7MQKgzxWP0CgGo07Zf5TtlESfSpmKNBfgHozqFkoVbxHKBoqodMnboUYz6i3 IM5w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=Lbmx3jSp8YvM3AIYdL5xW+CbqcrwFz7Q2rIL32+CX/4=; b=VI1o2wt/TwUfCEmXlQO5Trcwmd/YBOOu/XvGTqfTUltblXt8DyLuVJ3oogb9H7G1Mb N0Vrv4kQwjTnkceHZso1aq74RMlXaBHDLtO/myogyMzks2kBfZ4Azn/Kwc9oXWoM3c9P 4mg3zv77MltVw3PYTlMLl215T2t2Qq29dcpnxUnemKYhBhb1WKPpMOFFccWWJ23a5AHd KUDPDM8z15Q8b0MOt4+ZpSTKzFeY6Ne0To19J7KgM566OAu6N5dOG+9RIA2Mo4tqsw/J C1SnvW8RCCSNoRXEV3Etw9FQC+PlBEMzvGAQXVM2Woxhg8k9Bq7iHJC8oMfWU7XqOgho hi6w== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwN2tGkZjzQJ9L8rvP1y3XJXjgaEM69GnBZmQZEVXLY3Dm7Evte1p3ncgVr0EI3JW/1bhWdUPVfHpFCL1A== X-Received: by 10.55.195.152 with SMTP id r24mr23338224qkl.28.1473719580068; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 15:33:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6bf88725-f6d9-be52-fa39-3760bc9d98f6@unguitar.com> References: <6bf88725-f6d9-be52-fa39-3760bc9d98f6@unguitar.com> From: Per Boysen Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 00:32:59 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Plogue Bidule anyone? To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125244 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 22:33:00 +0000 (UTC) Luca, whatever host environment you're working in you must make sure the plugins you are lining up do not induce latency. Some plugins do and they typically crash the host when used to alter a live input. Only plugins that fulfill their tasks well withing the plugin's "work memory" (not sure that is the right word, but the memory segment allocated by the OS for that particular plugin). Most plugins seem to meet this requirement today, but it may be a good idea to check for that before losing too much time building something that won't work. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com www.boysen.se On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 11:19 PM, Luca - Unguitar wrote: > thank you Hal, > > I agree about Per's solution but I need to manage parallel chains of plugins > and not parallel single plugins. > I need an application that allows multiple plugins to change their preset > and their bypass state via a single midi command ( PC or CC). > Audiomulch is very essential by this point of view ( and with a deadly > absence of bypass state) but allows a very easy preset midi mapping. > Bidule's preset mapping is still very obscure to me and honestly surprised > by the negation of Program Changes. > > More about it here: http://www.plogue.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7802 > > I feel the beloved LD list is way more reactive than Bidule's one by the > way... > > I'd love Bidule to be the one, but it looks like its Developer's vision and > goals are different than mine. > > My best and thanks for your kind help, > luca > > > On 11/09/16 01:27, Dean, Hal wrote: > > FWIW, I am running a 64 bit Biddle layout with J-bridged versions of a few > 32bit VSTs, chief among them Mobius. Win7 on a refurbished i7 ThinkPad. It > is rock solid. > > Per's approach to changing presets on the fly is a basic part of my setup. I > have the screen set up to have preset names of active VSTs across the top, > so changes are readily visible, albeit small font that would not be easy to > read on a stage, on a laptop screen. > > The Biddle forum is very helpful too. > > All the best of luck with getting your setup in tune , > Hal > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 13 03:56:37 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5DAB014390A; Tue, 13 Sep 2016 03:56:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 488 seconds by postgrey-1.35 at arsenic; Tue, 13 Sep 2016 03:56:37 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1473738508; bh=LxqXfweHicQtmZSQDkgy1c8QbSaS5r1OdTt/cUd3ZD8=; h=Received:Received:From:Subject:To:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=lRIHuKLUH8ZFByDsmLohVvsDB4gNlLl3aiTYVDuoaZP7jAoraMZhpI5Q9xsGL2BLW FAgH1jNkZZ2R/UXqF049WSimWgD2jHBMA7yjZWzzOa/XLOYJ//D+TmkwLP2v1Jxw+7 oNroQJuYw5imYRiLJx4uFiFTa/6mwuFCgn2BnBcciiKUzBn02wq8xo8mBAL0cvJKJy 3Gg3qnM1HGChnZIZIQ77FgHohai+iSTHbOO4vKKEIGnd8zt3vq9kP61lCMdXVpgm9e H/Ct92IECP+FTBaZO9xpEnOW+C3Jl4PJ5Bk6xQ/Nbe+IP5Y5jHOHtdYq20ZgfNWffK p9e2H9CABi43g== From: Rocky Subject: you are hyper-sensitive to latency, as a musician To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <1d964b44-d3af-8461-1404-499eb044d1ca@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 23:48:26 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfNIjaCJ9e0kImqlhQ8cVsolcmw/hkh58IQeP/wePRUhkIGaxnn956r3AZd6sMwkN9/Opnxa7NFH6FiGIg9BqS59PoNG0FsNg5v12t84b8RfqgVFm5Clt UjwYERGiZWCGEChcLmvtuDDQPmQYcjkbGCJfGI0RpJU7bsbQt9yIZt0uhYIcDyfDyOD6I/WPglUdYWgqJoStSkF6BX5+ZSz963Y= Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125245 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 03:56:37 +0000 (UTC) Is that you? It's certainly to me. That is, I hear extremely minute delays from instrument to speaker while I play in some digital situations, and it keeps me from being able to play with the less-than-speedy setup. That is one of the primary reasons I have avoided getting laptops involved with my looping. It's why I don't use my old boss pitch shifter in the loop stream. What I want to know is -- Am I behind the times and is it now possible, without paying too much, to get a setup quick enough for people who can't adapt to even the most minuscule perceptible delay in signal? Rocky Jones, still just using loop pedals From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 13 19:37:18 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B2FF14390D; Tue, 13 Sep 2016 19:37:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Plogue Bidule anyone? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <6bf88725-f6d9-be52-fa39-3760bc9d98f6@unguitar.com> From: Luca - Unguitar Message-ID: <9f8493ea-323a-b27f-e2d1-5bf60b1cfbcf@unguitar.com> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 21:37:15 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125246 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 19:37:18 +0000 (UTC) Thank you for the advice Per, I've substituted my hardware rack with Audiomulch and plugins in 2007, so I've gone through all those useful accidents already ;-) bestbest, luca and On 13/09/16 00:32, Per Boysen wrote: > Luca, whatever host environment you're working in you must make sure > the plugins you are lining up do not induce latency. Some plugins do > and they typically crash the host when used to alter a live input. > Only plugins that fulfill their tasks well withing the plugin's "work > memory" (not sure that is the right word, but the memory segment > allocated by the OS for that particular plugin). Most plugins seem to > meet this requirement today, but it may be a good idea to check for > that before losing too much time building something that won't work. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > www.boysen.se > > > On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 11:19 PM, Luca - Unguitar wrote: >> thank you Hal, >> >> I agree about Per's solution but I need to manage parallel chains of plugins >> and not parallel single plugins. >> I need an application that allows multiple plugins to change their preset >> and their bypass state via a single midi command ( PC or CC). >> Audiomulch is very essential by this point of view ( and with a deadly >> absence of bypass state) but allows a very easy preset midi mapping. >> Bidule's preset mapping is still very obscure to me and honestly surprised >> by the negation of Program Changes. >> >> More about it here: http://www.plogue.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7802 >> >> I feel the beloved LD list is way more reactive than Bidule's one by the >> way... >> >> I'd love Bidule to be the one, but it looks like its Developer's vision and >> goals are different than mine. >> >> My best and thanks for your kind help, >> luca >> >> >> On 11/09/16 01:27, Dean, Hal wrote: >> >> FWIW, I am running a 64 bit Biddle layout with J-bridged versions of a few >> 32bit VSTs, chief among them Mobius. Win7 on a refurbished i7 ThinkPad. It >> is rock solid. >> >> Per's approach to changing presets on the fly is a basic part of my setup. I >> have the screen set up to have preset names of active VSTs across the top, >> so changes are readily visible, albeit small font that would not be easy to >> read on a stage, on a laptop screen. >> >> The Biddle forum is very helpful too. >> >> All the best of luck with getting your setup in tune , >> Hal >> >> >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 14 03:52:47 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B900414390E; Wed, 14 Sep 2016 03:52:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 4547 seconds by postgrey-1.35 at arsenic; Wed, 14 Sep 2016 03:52:47 UTC From: bill walker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: strange Mobius behavior Message-Id: <5AFC6C9F-7BF7-458F-A0D6-C2D78118B63F@icloud.com> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 19:36:48 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125247 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 03:52:47 +0000 (UTC) On Monday I did a long overdue operating system upgrade to El Capitan on = my my mac book. Since then Mobius has been behaving very strangely. = Initially, ween opening Mobius the display is sluggish, and the midi = controller Im using, a McMillen 12 step is issuing commands and Im able = to record, ply etc.., but the Mobius display doesn=E2=80=99t give any = indication that functions are working,t and this is also true for = keyboard commands however. If I use a mouse and Mobius buttons, Ill see = record functions and play functions initiated but the red and green = wheel cycles are frozen not spinning at tempo. And then after about 5 = minutes or so, everything starts to function as normal. the 12 step not = only initiates commands but the screen indicates those commands are = happening. This is so bizarre and I have no clue what might be = happening. For what its worth Im on Mobius 2.5. Has anyone else = experienced this problem? Thanks Bill= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 14 11:32:15 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5497914390C; Wed, 14 Sep 2016 11:32:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=glasswing-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=9z9TE/3X/ZbipC+CLf+WXipqI3I/+vDMELbUpM3/+4Y=; b=VzuxFGcLfguw/6sM95NxAnJ7wvPT2pJHhKyTEQkOugrgVrajiuAhVKg5zUz0O914Wd 6aOobw6guUeYDPU5RjZhg/bXrcbNZuopjtVKJTelLSUM4PLehLhUtFCTUTkjrKFIoUfz xN97lmOIC/99d6tEmKfFwOHSTMdlbB8Sdw4i8kap+P9ZF20dgmsaezI0Nk1fGtisgwfy up11Aa2K9Ys020fkoCfu+5suVO3NH1qguxznMm03/KWtA7mde/MfrHWB7UUF9w3Fv9Wm ulIFuAVpvwKSZDJGLjVetmhWQ7R1XktVfB5rtxvgudCJI7Cu2NM5JmOZ+d+hvM1i+eKZ UaMQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=9z9TE/3X/ZbipC+CLf+WXipqI3I/+vDMELbUpM3/+4Y=; b=cIfgFuJ72zkHTxvBjOOC4lDn190OlE9DQt1eAvD4Hp916TmgEorwzd5LKOf+GJBS+4 Pdgx0uO5iTpe5m7sqx2UGsW6x6tJmYa2jppmUEsiqvJUKsM2sAuQmFIUN002Sww2e5fD TsGwf3nARH2//YYTlj5D2Besd/g6xtJ0dx01DhPUbee03Smk+3xkbcJG5z9dCtgo8lqg hV4+oLmrhIpfgyOxjngNNX+8QG2d8wjnMqkwXWMnauBipj7C8AnPLs4Ry47vV7XnOpJ5 OFM2WqK6d0w3lQuDThkB/PwTk7lHQgS1W8gGgELY+v8lpCt5KMRMtibBg9FCBMgRAvoE 7DAg== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwOpIGQzigTg+uQMj70fsDYgqtw+FR0B36B4kYUybcgNzI9MorsquifAiw2AJ5y++bdhdCZF3t7WPEnaBQ== X-Received: by 10.13.202.133 with SMTP id m127mr1951229ywd.73.1473852734261; Wed, 14 Sep 2016 04:32:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5AFC6C9F-7BF7-458F-A0D6-C2D78118B63F@icloud.com> References: <5AFC6C9F-7BF7-458F-A0D6-C2D78118B63F@icloud.com> From: Richard Sales Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 04:31:53 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: strange Mobius behavior To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11482ed2ada945053c761423 Resent-Message-ID: <3HNQ1C.A.TrF._UT2XB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125248 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 11:32:15 +0000 (UTC) --001a11482ed2ada945053c761423 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Before upgrading OS I always have a separate partition (or HD) where I check compatibility before upgrading the main OS. Still on MOuntain Lion on my main drive. Testing El Capitan as we speak. It's never fun. I still miss the last great, audio friendly OS - OS 9. Rock solid On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 7:36 PM, bill walker wrote: > On Monday I did a long overdue operating system upgrade to El Capitan on > my my mac book. Since then Mobius has been behaving very strangely. > Initially, ween opening Mobius the display is sluggish, and the midi > controller Im using, a McMillen 12 step is issuing commands and Im able t= o > record, ply etc.., but the Mobius display doesn=E2=80=99t give any indica= tion that > functions are working,t and this is also true for keyboard commands > however. If I use a mouse and Mobius buttons, Ill see record functions an= d > play functions initiated but the red and green wheel cycles are frozen no= t > spinning at tempo. And then after about 5 minutes or so, everything start= s > to function as normal. the 12 step not only initiates commands but the > screen indicates those commands are happening. This is so bizarre and I > have no clue what might be happening. For what its worth Im on Mobius 2.5= . > Has anyone else experienced this problem? > Thanks > Bill > --=20 *richard sales* www.glasswing.com *Hope is the thing with feathers that perches in the soul - **Emily Dickinson* --001a11482ed2ada945053c761423 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Bef= ore upgrading OS I always have a separate partition (or HD) where I check c= ompatibility before upgrading the main OS.=C2=A0 Still on MOuntain Lion on = my main drive.=C2=A0 Testing El Capitan as we speak.=C2=A0
It's never fun.=C2=A0 I st= ill miss the last great, audio friendly OS - OS 9.=C2=A0 Rock solid

On Tue, Sep 13, 201= 6 at 7:36 PM, bill walker <wildbillwalker@icloud.com> wrote:
On Monday I did a long overdue o= perating system upgrade to El Capitan on my my mac book. Since then Mobius = has been behaving very strangely. Initially, ween opening Mobius the displa= y is sluggish, and the midi controller Im using, a McMillen 12 step is issu= ing commands and Im able to record, ply etc.., but the Mobius display doesn= =E2=80=99t give any indication that functions are working,t and this is als= o true for keyboard commands however. If I use a mouse and Mobius buttons, = Ill see record functions and play functions initiated but the red and green= wheel cycles are frozen not spinning at tempo. And then after about 5 minu= tes or so, everything starts to function as normal. the 12 step not only in= itiates commands but the screen indicates those commands are happening. Thi= s is so bizarre and I have no clue what might be happening. For what its wo= rth Im on Mobius 2.5. Has anyone else experienced this problem?
Thanks
=C2=A0Bill



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www.glasswin= g.com

<= strong style=3D"line-height:1.2;color:rgb(121,119,116);font-family:verdana,= arial,sans-serif;font-size:11px">Hope is the thing with feathers that perch= es in the soul -=C2=A0Emily Dick= inson

--001a11482ed2ada945053c761423-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 14 13:17:51 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D5DB14390D; Wed, 14 Sep 2016 13:17:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=BJSRMiRD1NmOg33pqIGH+2b9dxWIFaHL2FHSrCh9vOo=; b=keMAJexvXSe5Hj73yoY/VdITZYmxPGTnipy27ZAB7mt5xB2Ymz8aWCxmlY9PInuP5d yC1JX/kAkPkk8bL+pwmfIWkU7llWY6KXe3krDopwVC6kAzPN1EQSgUaYXjDVDLxWzZEC NHLApR9G0s7USNesSxlbT2UujyQKMbdAWs7TwVhu1ngGfGqd8FkprSbC9V90WUeZjMsx NjAV8T9ZqwbfvbmBxU4vOCuPQjIqpiY/PPMHMeHNQHH0X7UvdkxX8jRb9dfuB8I0rkFv f3I689ccli4/faDkJM4dogNFzN2Gn3ALfQXHpm1ZIvGd7b/Bhc1E9CdN2ghA9JqPq/ga K3eA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=BJSRMiRD1NmOg33pqIGH+2b9dxWIFaHL2FHSrCh9vOo=; b=Yvyj9PraBcA5flPKgGMe+fuJkzG8bUghnHoON6IhO8YB6hkKVbfQbC16lmpPIs9H1t Ueyt/CY3CZEszNAD0yG5JE1YQ3H0N5MQ/Q75l5M0cnwe2beyfPZCRDqivjOTIGID6aYE AdRPlDf/pfJuo3ZM/Cxw77pnn5r2j9iwW6U1Frxxxv7fTYtG/IIxem5bfH6yjpxLRM9A z4+gSf8rXN0y4jTRP9FUuuo3VF/aATTaTCv57ZgWAPSgjbfmjve1MvGXbgTyWmNPVjDj BFTdO5cR3be9EMxdYdPh6r7F124n0OdRHiLZglZDoSqZfadi/HUR8OXNMslxwtNjAXWU 6b4g== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwPILmes2zwS6ptNQeGDAG4DYF9b/PgQtAmsRqw3IAhsg/LILlor0aHChQZHCDq8PnfC+qbc0pdithIKYw== X-Received: by 10.55.195.77 with SMTP id a74mr2804711qkj.165.1473859070400; Wed, 14 Sep 2016 06:17:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <5AFC6C9F-7BF7-458F-A0D6-C2D78118B63F@icloud.com> From: Per Boysen Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 15:17:49 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: strange Mobius behavior To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11478c98574b84053c778e8d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125249 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 13:17:51 +0000 (UTC) --001a11478c98574b84053c778e8d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm still passing on El Crapitan, but on this eRlier OS this trick makes Mobius come out of that dreadful frozen mide: just go into preferences and tic off the Secondary Feedback box - then tic it back to "on" again and leave the pref's mode. onsdag 14 september 2016 skrev Richard Sales : > Before upgrading OS I always have a separate partition (or HD) where I > check compatibility before upgrading the main OS. Still on MOuntain Lion > on my main drive. Testing El Capitan as we speak. > It's never fun. I still miss the last great, audio friendly OS - OS 9. > Rock solid > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 7:36 PM, bill walker > wrote: > >> On Monday I did a long overdue operating system upgrade to El Capitan on >> my my mac book. Since then Mobius has been behaving very strangely. >> Initially, ween opening Mobius the display is sluggish, and the midi >> controller Im using, a McMillen 12 step is issuing commands and Im able = to >> record, ply etc.., but the Mobius display doesn=E2=80=99t give any indic= ation that >> functions are working,t and this is also true for keyboard commands >> however. If I use a mouse and Mobius buttons, Ill see record functions a= nd >> play functions initiated but the red and green wheel cycles are frozen n= ot >> spinning at tempo. And then after about 5 minutes or so, everything star= ts >> to function as normal. the 12 step not only initiates commands but the >> screen indicates those commands are happening. This is so bizarre and I >> have no clue what might be happening. For what its worth Im on Mobius 2.= 5. >> Has anyone else experienced this problem? >> Thanks >> Bill >> > > > > -- > *richard sales* > www.glasswing.com > *Hope is the thing with feathers that perches in the soul - **Emily > Dickinson* > --=20 Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com www.boysen.se --001a11478c98574b84053c778e8d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm still passing on El Crapitan, but on this eRlier OS this trick make= s Mobius come out of that dreadful frozen mide: just go into preferences an= d tic off the Secondary Feedback box - then tic it back to "on" a= gain and leave the pref's mode.

onsdag 14 september= 2016 skrev Richard Sales <rich= ard@glasswing.com>:
Before upgrading = OS I always have a separate partition (or HD) where I check compatibility b= efore upgrading the main OS.=C2=A0 Still on MOuntain Lion on my main drive.= =C2=A0 Testing El Capitan as we speak.=C2=A0
It's never fun.=C2=A0 I still miss the la= st great, audio friendly OS - OS 9.=C2=A0 Rock solid

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 7:36 PM, b= ill walker <wildbillwalke= r@icloud.com> wrote:
On Mon= day I did a long overdue operating system upgrade to El Capitan on my my ma= c book. Since then Mobius has been behaving very strangely. Initially, ween= opening Mobius the display is sluggish, and the midi controller Im using, = a McMillen 12 step is issuing commands and Im able to record, ply etc.., bu= t the Mobius display doesn=E2=80=99t give any indication that functions are= working,t and this is also true for keyboard commands however. If I use a = mouse and Mobius buttons, Ill see record functions and play functions initi= ated but the red and green wheel cycles are frozen not spinning at tempo. A= nd then after about 5 minutes or so, everything starts to function as norma= l. the 12 step not only initiates commands but the screen indicates those c= ommands are happening. This is so bizarre and I have no clue what might be = happening. For what its worth Im on Mobius 2.5. Has anyone else experienced= this problem?
Thanks
=C2=A0Bill



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richard sales
www.glasswing.com

Hope is the thing with feathers that perches in the soul -=C2=A0Emily Dickinson

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Greetings from Sweden

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www.boysen.se --001a11478c98574b84053c778e8d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 17 05:13:50 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 635BE14390F; Sat, 17 Sep 2016 05:13:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=lx3QuxRd3mqHgx/mC3kvHSk2p9laqn2zlUo3/OSJhZQ=; b=aO+v060fc1DrtP4ua9VxzwPXC1xE0LCfn3v29y3/EG3YnGONJCWzjZeEtyGblGl44k EA97rDJYoC9bq2SMAQJi1dTPGPiaqCxFCSvroWSdD34Cy4GTX1YYvpdMxPlByRPcTjHY D/t60EcS9rGjahi08RMP0Xg86lyHZFWwPj/AJJ4YetkhxIwQI+OdKCln+CcA3d5I/3Sf MmIfNbZ9Z9QmbPO/tNCEQEJTVpiqSG9ghd2J7L3mMIl5JFuMscGl6qIkjL3YE9VmYKfu 8zCy1kSzc1juKmRYR3Gr6TNoBpPxZDBatokWrGnKjAi1+df0JnsVz0vMZIkKOy6eFB1m Nsvw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:reply-to:from:date:message-id :subject:to; bh=lx3QuxRd3mqHgx/mC3kvHSk2p9laqn2zlUo3/OSJhZQ=; b=Pau9zVTMlQiJTYLZ+mxmgvtdMqSFGvMKuUVd01j3MBvFg9ifTPBN0m2RlS0Nj5HIeR nglaD/YjcwC0GFS2QnCz6XLwIqPYCRIs45FeJA4OK4RqY4DeZQ2U0NeuHn+7dxLZBtKW tRNfacEQ83+W0ecURMtyG4iKETfSzCffazgIQjt6Ojy/jLPIc5mr+kDErn2eU1ocXd4D td65H3egEISG7bYRvtBCwc9s+UoUAR8pbqCV9MKxZSj9hKzt7CVHex3El70L+aRy78nm 1mWiwkS8PICt7c7zYtNbeYxwp1ij3lQZqbbDkJmY8xGXkTRV/njGpnF3IZrFy4OtobGz pO0w== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwNI1jp1hQUKHOfO0kMKFbK2Tz8wJb27biQbfVM6smBRDOlb+PdjIuwMxKynzou742VYUZLgmqGy/3frLg== X-Received: by 10.31.63.6 with SMTP id m6mr5637169vka.169.1474089229414; Fri, 16 Sep 2016 22:13:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: cnovey@gmail.com From: Clifford Novey Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 22:13:49 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: RIP Don Buchla 1937-2016 To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114dbe5ce2f402053cad24c0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125250 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2016 05:13:50 +0000 (UTC) --001a114dbe5ce2f402053cad24c0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/sep/16/don-buchla-modular-synthesizer-pioneer-dies-aged-79 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Buchla Regards, Clifford --001a114dbe5ce2f402053cad24c0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
--001a114dbe5ce2f402053cad24c0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 17 19:14:54 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BFC1514390E; Sat, 17 Sep 2016 19:14:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: bill walker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: strange Mobius behavior Message-Id: <71D043BC-EE4B-4C14-94EC-75A38B348B51@icloud.com> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2016 12:14:42 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125251 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2016 19:14:54 +0000 (UTC) Per wrote: just go into preferences and tic off the Secondary Feedback = box - then tic it back to "on" again and leave the pref's mode. Thanks Richard and Per, Per did you mean to say go in to Mobius = Configuration, then Preset, and then double click the secondary feedback = button? Its funny you mentioned this work around because I stumbled on = another as well. Go to Configuration, go to Audio devices and click OK, = Mobius starts behaving again, This leads me to believe its and internal = connectivity issue where Mobius is not recognized at start up, and needs = to be reconnected each time Mobius is opened, Thank god for the work = around, I wasn=E2=80=99t looking forward to a long trouble shoot, and I = didn=E2=80=99t probably do myself any favors by inadvertently leap = frogging operating systems to get to El Capitan. Im the world=E2=80=99s = worst at staying current with system upgrades, too tethered to the =E2=80=9C= if it aint broke don=E2=80=99t fix it=E2=80=9D mentality I guess. lesson = learned=E2=80=A6.finally. Bill= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 18 05:58:12 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5849814390E; Sun, 18 Sep 2016 05:58:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: PiNG Subject: PiNG:09:20:16 > dreamSTATE + DRONE:KLUB + DJ LP + General Chaos Visuals Reply-To: ping@theambientping.com To: Loopers Delight Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 01:58:11 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020206.57DE2CF3.00A5,ss=1,re=0.000,recu=0.000,reip=0.000,cl=1,cld=1,fgs=0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125252 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 05:58:12 +0000 (UTC) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 20TH 2016 . PiNG:09:20:16 THE PiNG presents dreamSTATE + DRONE:KLUB + DJ LP + GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS @ Handlebar . 159 Augusta Ave . Toronto, ON Canada (Kensington Market) West of Spadina & North of Dundas PiNG doors open at 8:30pm . 1st set at 9:00 . $8-10 . 9:00 . dreamSTATE . Ambient explorers dreamSTATE set the drone tone in the first set with a stream of unconsciousness inspired by this year's long, hot Ontario summer. Presiding over a tabletop of tablets and controllers they'll be drawing on recent memories of hazy days, spectral nights, cicadas, crickets, taunting clouds, rejuvenating lakes and tangled dreams. http://www.dreamSTATE.to . 10:00 . DRONE:KLUB . The PiNG introduces DRONE:KLUB, Toronto's new community drone event, envisioned as a mobile series of drone-based improv sessions in private and public spaces. If you're a droner and keen to explore and add your voice to a drone chorus of open-minded musicians, send an email to droneklub@theambientping.com or FB message DRONE:KLUB through the link below. We'll assemble a list to notify you where and when things are happening. This introductory set assembles a small group of musicians (Melissa J, Alissa Vox Raw, Jakob Thiesen, Stuart Clark, Jamie Todd & Scott M2) to drone for your pleasure. Don't miss the first installment of DRONE:KLUB. We'll have a sign-up sheet at Handlebar too. https://www.facebook.com/droneklub . DJ LP . Beginning at 8:30 and between sets DJ LP (Lorenz Peter) will be spinning choice ambient and electronic music from his extensive selection of discs in his LP's LPs record shop (at 2227 Dundas St West). https://www.facebook.com/lorenz.peter.7 . GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS . Throughout the night, painting the light fantastic will be the spinning analog visuals of General Chaos. http://www.generalchaosvisuals.ca . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . COMiNG SOON: TUESDAY OCTOBER 11TH 2016 . PiNG:10:11:16 The PiNG presents NORTH ATLANTIC DRIFT + VALISKA (Calgary) + GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS @ Handlebar . 159 Augusta Ave . Toronto, ON Canada (Kensington Market) West of Spadina & North of Dundas PiNG doors open at 8:30pm . 1st set at 9:00 . $8-10 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THE AMBiENT PiNG is a Toronto based creative community of audio artists, performers, musicians and visual artists. The PiNG presents live multimedia performances featuring ambient, electronic, soundscape, space, drone, psychedelic, chillout, downtempo, darkwave and experimental artists from around the world. http://www.theambientping.com The PiNG also has a Twitter account to send you advance updates and reminders of the when & where of future PiNG events. Just search for ambientping to find us. http://twitter.com We're on facebook too: https://www.facebook.com/The-AMBiENT-PiNG-207688729241637 or Search for THE AMBiENT PiNG: http://www.facebook.com ViSiT the ping things store for ambient, electronic and chill things: http://www.pingthings.com Viners and Instagrammers - Scott has set up a Vine page for THE AMBiENT PiNG and a hashtag for #ambientping that can be used on Instagram and Vine to help document PiNG performances with your photos, videos and loops! Subscribe to the PiNG/URM Mixlr page: http://mixlr.com/urm for LiVE audio streaming from the PiNG and in-studio performances featuring THE AMBiENT PiNG community including URM, dreamSTATE and guests. .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Please forward this e-mail to any interested friends or appropriate blogs, forums or newsgroups. Thanks. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 18 10:30:42 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96C7D14390C; Sun, 18 Sep 2016 10:30:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1474194641; bh=d27uKKaWOdT3PfyIFqmqkouQweVhTe7VwVN1DqBmqpY=; h=Subject:References:From:In-Reply-To:Date:To:From:Subject; b=VONmLwu4PvjqjtyzlZyBNzceXTEtjUC5ZoWpYM4llR3Hc3B4/kTvY19FeUeifG0ctCoxo3rrsZOKMLIV4ZcIFDL0t1ZXWIw1V0F1VbNnvQtQMqtJ3+SOo1xg0wfbTOWOO3aRYSZal0QM0T+iHrv4q3a6c+0hBiwCsFcKZ/M8Y0y6F/I/mwgWvYKdNnOCz2zHTbEQf4kmhVQXUu8GpOn17/zmuUHYh7qbONc11K9jhnp9C+WcqG/3p3TI/rtn7YUo4cMSs8lzYh3M9T6HVEJdkHivWaeMuz3J8HtkGS4Y9oji57eKT01qRuFkcprHM3RudfTk/9mWqNlonOM6GCx1dw== X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 410025.65587.bm@smtp224.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: EIjWl98VM1n.RVE6_FnVmEA98jApOP08IBAMZfFZPdRoxPs KnfaJ4idFqcGym3QJgpC5MFG3JCs87AOlovFXEE7sGJ8d94Oym5LOV6Lib11 iCdWVAdZUNYZK5dvQxrkG_wX8mCBzALOSXZYFJ6ePP.5pe.rsYXy8sZ5rKci M38Q6Ku4bAHDEBuHf43yly8S4h0rPG1FOHuw0hFi9QAa9bnHdCQEnioe11nX x2Pgt8m02fTyYiiHy2JX.jbqpEuHrFTCN.Fbo5IaVQxgF8TwrrDik6E48t80 J7lU28_XcRL9IIn85u7KF_QsN1XmSsqCCfo_.ruxam1PzNTbx7sPkVEz9SRx jolWy3JCkYCkiPL3gyaHToAAjc9HzjGZAzMZVzvpCDl45yfMNkn8DdmOBf1S 6ZE5yq1sNo_pj_NP7okujQ5yyeipRW.rH3Tf6kMBXnUUvJNSSWBJN6avOl9p oXWDYyUCWbcYknrzqJtyhWwT0xlkhI.BAnKupweHTn6pQ_gcB4tFFrpuJUou yNpKMShCn8sC2WnS1CoJOsU88TOe_luTxyxJ2KWuNeU9GqXF1NHJst_I5zPd rAfO0rHxydhobCHvPoek7MOuMTb8- X-Yahoo-SMTP: zoP3D9GswBAC41P0r57UmSrE__sr072S0w-- Subject: Re: strange Mobius behavior References: <71D043BC-EE4B-4C14-94EC-75A38B348B51@icloud.com> From: Luis Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Mailer: iPad Mail (13G36) In-Reply-To: <71D043BC-EE4B-4C14-94EC-75A38B348B51@icloud.com> Message-Id: <109BFB74-77A2-4445-9E06-FD497ABAEC97@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 12:30:38 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125253 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 10:30:42 +0000 (UTC) I havent upgraded to el capistan because of the very same reason,ill remain c= hicken shit > On 17.09.2016, at 21:14, bill walker wrote: >=20 > Per wrote: just go into preferences and tic off the Secondary Feedback box= - then tic it back to "on" again and leave the pref's mode. >=20 > Thanks Richard and Per, Per did you mean to say go in to Mobius Configura= tion, then Preset, and then double click the secondary feedback button? Its f= unny you mentioned this work around because I stumbled on another as well. G= o to Configuration, go to Audio devices and click OK, Mobius starts behaving= again, This leads me to believe its and internal connectivity issue where M= obius is not recognized at start up, and needs to be reconnected each time M= obius is opened, Thank god for the work around, I wasn=E2=80=99t looking fo= rward to a long trouble shoot, and I didn=E2=80=99t probably do myself any f= avors by inadvertently leap frogging operating systems to get to El Capitan.= Im the world=E2=80=99s worst at staying current with system upgrades, too t= ethered to the =E2=80=9Cif it aint broke don=E2=80=99t fix it=E2=80=9D menta= lity I guess. lesson learned=E2=80=A6.finally. > Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 18 15:09:42 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E5A714390E; Sun, 18 Sep 2016 15:09:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=HSB3MGAEtyOFTPzWmZ0oULlebkDgxle6evzfPsM9v+8=; b=ag4mVnhaAb5N/As/B2JniToV2y+QXHo/tYPdZBVMHWt1mVEWrsaJXOyLSB17MqEcjU bqtV4VOdCBkZJyO9kUQli97HMEJIhJnaC8f6OHKL0Xi1s15pS3ViOWzfOhZkE8OrZc5/ IRCb/aEM9PPKX7I+CXGcbJ3iS4EvXstiPcYjDE5fs9kIQ4UAiiKg6ORmJ2gt9NVtkPdO Jn0Cf4uTSPx5B4Xt0ylrWesSkTshzrlrQ8jkPvs4kZWuP3yEs016auNoQJ0vqjhBzz6e vH9KNBNeMhFDh7exc32KaMSPIvkKARR3ypTJojgbY3xiqzQTMYAchiLqyUnYTrfGk/I1 5nUw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=HSB3MGAEtyOFTPzWmZ0oULlebkDgxle6evzfPsM9v+8=; b=A1SHG3Gs4Elr6qowFCAVyyxacyvM4LtOJkaxai1iiAWEET5X3qbWA8lPZ10OcXbnx9 Tt43QwbuWr4SqlPgqcJeobLqJmL2f1POkY0/lkIFSzqOGSBADJSKhHO2XTE8OIxgyYY0 s0D0G1oqB9CEjKWOujeW8PuAm/yjhNv7MSoyTSEd58DVOtL2u+tJDmrb0J6sjnsq+6AK CbMA3SV7J3taWp2qxYyk8ueLnp/eZeL5L6IblKLe5mRhPd/ZXfJtCnBi1SvE1r8AET/i zrML39xj5nMLPkXqilF7ObaChDudDwa7FS4cfEm4rkua0uyx9FDVB5HCs1xeveMLb66O hINg== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwMKUgQ/Igsw8VEB5r6aY6dANJXh2rxEIDILTMH5N2RFLrLjJcH6rXbvOaBM9zcxX7qwWJqaqBovE5oj/A== X-Received: by 10.202.226.137 with SMTP id z131mr3629307oig.52.1474211381186; Sun, 18 Sep 2016 08:09:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 17:09:20 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Ribbon synth memories anyone? To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11401c0eb31577053cc995a2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125254 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 15:09:42 +0000 (UTC) --001a11401c0eb31577053cc995a2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, Many years ago there was some discussion of a weird product, no doubt long gone, where a touch sensitive ribbon was stuck to the back of the guitar neck and had some kind of cheezy in built sounds. The idea was that you played with your thumb at the back of your guitar neck. Can anyone recall what that was? Im in the market for something like that, am investigating the eonwave ribbon2 which looks promising, (and relatively current - no less) but wanted to be completionist in my research) I may even had asked this question before... but my memory and abilities with the LD archives page are very limited... Mark -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabchao.no twitter @markfrancombe --001a11401c0eb31577053cc995a2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
Many years ago there was some discussion of a weir= d product, no doubt long gone, where a touch sensitive ribbon was stuck to = the back of the guitar neck and had some kind of cheezy in built sounds. Th= e idea was that you played with your thumb at the =C2=A0back of your guitar= neck.

Can anyone recall what that was?
=
Im in the market for something like that, am investigating t= he eonwave ribbon2 which looks promising, (and relatively current - =C2=A0n= o less) =C2=A0but wanted to be completionist in my research)

=
I may even had asked this question before... but my memory and a= bilities with the LD archives page are very limited...

=
Mark

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Mark Francombe
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--001a11401c0eb31577053cc995a2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 18 20:00:24 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F4A114390E; Sun, 18 Sep 2016 20:00:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=3ube/bPSUzRhztj4XlITJb+AIpJPk+i+dL/ozLmCCHg=; b=i4GIFEgCo5p4mbeSOXPQ9PxDpYUsrl5f4mMJiJnPzeIWFWP6Z+1zW5b7aH1Fa28CvB L2V/UBN8prrNZ4MsYkqJfwDcQdxKOcsmUz2KXGgIPiX6zkoogDo24/1/bBC3JAae5mZv cK48n/fY+ouW2IUz0R0eLsPun65es91NCsfqatHADLeXQWfT1vN5VZpU28PzKOQ3U//C P+dZzZ9M0HU/URShFvoalArUkdBcyLZa8Wvsp1I4XCDKMJJAzP1+QTC3llJS95i4lS9U dc8tBhQllnhucz7UiSBU02C48ukcacRcF+8l5gYDXcAPu3CJwy9xRgf05Kbu6Ln8lR3j oXCg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=3ube/bPSUzRhztj4XlITJb+AIpJPk+i+dL/ozLmCCHg=; b=YSY28GPwB6BrCcpaZdcsNKVPZ50SefrY20TC3AtIpsRmpgNvXJs8hShw8Z/F6pzkNT g9AM2wJkDs5YbQ3zVde9otQjjwnzio00x5AOzqmufgIpN2dtbfrIWdZ7R1jRq6R782jq k5dsQfKYqcm7GFEI5/t6GPg6an8lbZtcG1L+YvOGHuQ5wROHo8axLDV8J+sY5nYWE8z1 zx059LbC2fkInvsAzLUWXXFG3SHDdYBc4tdvcxl/gll/xO1HMU1W6tDm2PjdESz4l6NX 1wwtxEdGK5V2B0lAkoRhSR8Ndoutgx1EfapbsNmwKcPAm01fO7DS/UgydPHO2iC9ohBd YtLg== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwNYIFnObbwT2eRUf/iZFsOP6H87ifmgTSLd5tBBZXqcjbZ4zIh8VwY6LVmc0N53/W9K4yOrVENs3z+FGw== X-Received: by 10.107.47.227 with SMTP id v96mr34848506iov.172.1474228822896; Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:00:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <109BFB74-77A2-4445-9E06-FD497ABAEC97@yahoo.com> References: <71D043BC-EE4B-4C14-94EC-75A38B348B51@icloud.com> <109BFB74-77A2-4445-9E06-FD497ABAEC97@yahoo.com> From: Kevin Cheli-Colando Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:00:22 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: strange Mobius behavior To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c168fa4e784b053ccda503 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125255 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 20:00:24 +0000 (UTC) --001a11c168fa4e784b053ccda503 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I read that the upcoming os update solves the audio issues of El Capistan. I believe CDM even was recommending an immediate install they were so convinced of its fixes. Definitely research further before taking my memory for fact. Kevin On Sunday, September 18, 2016, Luis wrote: > I havent upgraded to el capistan because of the very same reason,ill > remain chicken shit > > > On 17.09.2016, at 21:14, bill walker > wrote: > > > > Per wrote: just go into preferences and tic off the Secondary Feedback > box - then tic it back to "on" again and leave the pref's mode. > > > > Thanks Richard and Per, Per did you mean to say go in to Mobius > Configuration, then Preset, and then double click the secondary feedback > button? Its funny you mentioned this work around because I stumbled on > another as well. Go to Configuration, go to Audio devices and click OK, > Mobius starts behaving again, This leads me to believe its and internal > connectivity issue where Mobius is not recognized at start up, and needs = to > be reconnected each time Mobius is opened, Thank god for the work around= , > I wasn=E2=80=99t looking forward to a long trouble shoot, and I didn=E2= =80=99t probably do > myself any favors by inadvertently leap frogging operating systems to get > to El Capitan. Im the world=E2=80=99s worst at staying current with syste= m > upgrades, too tethered to the =E2=80=9Cif it aint broke don=E2=80=99t fix= it=E2=80=9D mentality I > guess. lesson learned=E2=80=A6.finally. > > Bill > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) --001a11c168fa4e784b053ccda503 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I read that the upcoming os update solves the audio issues of El Capistan.= =C2=A0 I believe CDM even was recommending an immediate install they were s= o convinced of its fixes.=C2=A0 Definitely research further before taking m= y memory for fact.

Kevin=C2=A0

On Sunday, Septemb= er 18, 2016, Luis <louie.angul= o@yahoo.com> wrote:
I havent upgra= ded to el capistan because of the very same reason,ill remain chicken shit<= br>
> On 17.09.2016, at 21:14, bill walker <wild= billwalker@icloud.com> wrote:
>
> Per wrote: just go into preferences and tic off the Secondary Feedback= box - then tic it back to "on" again and leave the pref's mo= de.
>
> Thanks Richard and Per, Per did you mean to say=C2=A0 go in to Mobius = Configuration, then Preset, and then double click the secondary feedback bu= tton? Its funny you mentioned this work around because I stumbled on anothe= r as well. Go to Configuration, go to Audio devices and click OK, Mobius st= arts behaving again, This leads me to believe its and internal connectivity= issue where Mobius is not recognized at start up, and needs to be reconnec= ted each time Mobius is opened,=C2=A0 Thank god for the work around, I wasn= =E2=80=99t looking forward to a long trouble shoot, and I didn=E2=80=99t pr= obably do myself any favors by inadvertently leap frogging operating system= s to get to El Capitan. Im the world=E2=80=99s worst at staying current wit= h system upgrades, too tethered to the =E2=80=9Cif it aint broke don=E2=80= =99t fix it=E2=80=9D mentality I guess. lesson learned=E2=80=A6.finally. > Bill



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Till now you seriously considered yoursel= f to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which = is the root cause of all trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
<= br>
--001a11c168fa4e784b053ccda503-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 19 07:45:16 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4243FF94A; Mon, 19 Sep 2016 07:45:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-OWM-Source-IP: 10.110.12.1 () X-OWM-Env-Sender: blakemorehome@btinternet.com X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=11/50,refid=2.7.2:2016.9.19.64518:17:11.235,ip=,rules=__HAS_FROM, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL_FROM, FROM_NAME_ALLCAPS, __HAS_REPLYTO, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL_REPLYTO, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NO_NAME, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, INVALID_MSGID_NO_FQDN, __MIME_VERSION, __CT, __CTYPE_HAS_BOUNDARY, __CTYPE_MULTIPART, __CTYPE_MULTIPART_MIXED, __HAS_X_PRIORITY, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_ADDY, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_ACC, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_DOMAIN, __MIME_TEXT_P2, __MIME_TEXT_H2, __ANY_URI, __HTTPS_URI, __URI_WITH_PATH, __URI_NO_MAILTO, __CP_MEDIA_BODY, __INT_PROD_MP3, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, SUPERLONG_LINE, __MULTIPLE_URI_TEXT, __URI_IN_BODY, __HTML_AHREF_TAG, __HAS_HTML, __HTML_TAG_DIV, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_3000_3999, BODYTEXTH_SIZE_10000_LESS, __MIME_TEXT_H1, __MIME_TEXT_P1, __MIME_HTML, __URI_NS, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL, __PHISH_SPEAR_STRUCTURE_1, PRIORITY_NO_NAME, __MIME_TEXT_H, __MIME_TEXT_P, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=btcpcloud; t=1474271116; bh=fd+KUJi/t7nXNQMQWhoZu2fI4EIQG3ntKtFFz+x3RcY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version; b=C95jeCQ9ex3T10Kum+cXiPDu19VXVv/1/sK/+UgZvwhCfflcO6xk59etHeAR1UQhB4BiVlljwl4MpfVJpR84yKgO3Eg47b5fjHcd6CYSonWAjBscWU7hGduNv1VsdvMp3LXLIvWg4aXG+B/fKT9tgW+fCsCYope3z5yPU+aSoeU= Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 08:45:15 +0100 (BST) From: STEVE BLAKEMORE Reply-To: blakemorehome@btinternet.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <21851843.11347.1474271115065.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> Subject: A little something I knocked up ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_11346_31681060.1474271115026" Importance: 3 (Normal) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Client-IP: IPv4[31.53.149.39] Epoch[1474271115027] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125256 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 07:45:16 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_11346_31681060.1474271115026 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_11345_11413626.1474271115026" ------=_Part_11345_11413626.1474271115026 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everyone I'm coming out of lurker mode to send this link: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ky59mexkasksisf/AAA0tb0KjYP43HF5TqQzX2Gga?dl=0 It's a short MP3 I put together the other night. There was a tremendous storm overhead so I put a recorder in the conservatory and captured some of the rain and storm noises. I took the recording upstairs and started playing along with it, trying to capture the contours of the sound and the ebb and flow of the rain. The setup was my usual sort of thing: Energy XT as the host, Augustus Looper as the looping device (4 of them) and some VSTs including Atmosphere, DSK Synthphobia and Nanotron. I know that this is pretty far off what everyone else here is up to - and maybe a little new-agey for some tastes, but I'd welcome any comments anyone wants to share. I'm strictly a hobbyist musician,apart from the odd bit of work for videos and plays, and don't play in public very often at all. Your input - positive, negative or anything else - would be very much appreciated. I'm enjoying developing my music in this direction and, as it's for my own amusement mainly, I am short on feedback. Thanks for any time you can spare on this. Steve B ------=_Part_11345_11413626.1474271115026 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi everyone

I'm coming out of lurker mode to = send this link:


It's a short MP3 I put together the other night.

There was a tremendous storm overhead so I put a recorder in the co= nservatory and captured some of the rain and storm noises.

I took the recording upstairs and started playing along with it, t= rying to capture the contours of the sound and the ebb and flow of the rain= .

The setup was my usual sort of thing: Energy XT = as the host, Augustus Looper as the looping device (4 of them) and some VST= s including Atmosphere, DSK Synthphobia and Nanotron.

<= div>I know that this is pretty far off what everyone else here is up to - a= nd maybe a little new-agey for some tastes, but I'd welcome any comments an= yone wants to share.

I'm strictly a hobbyist musi= cian,apart from the odd bit of work for videos and plays, and don't play in= public very often at all. Your input - positive, negative or anything else= - would be very much appreciated. I'm enjoying developing my music in this= direction and, as it's for my own amusement mainly, I am short on feedback= .

Thanks for any time you can spare on this.
=

Steve B









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I imagine you're already aware of Doepfer's ribbon= controller?
There's a CV and a MIDI version, if I recall correctly= .
Sylvain

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--001a113aaafcb8eff4053cddab38-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 19 15:33:37 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84A05FF94A; Mon, 19 Sep 2016 15:33:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:message-id:date :references:in-reply-to:to; bh=pakp2FKSNzC3+z6Tn0C3GjFGx57sVUDo5oQpVEQCSTk=; b=bSTiXREqsSRAHpGYaYvKEwKIBddHaLBCTVOi+OQ3RupT6ijNOJ3/ihcKfsnOkqcrPN rga3oNhmlxf0GVvFx6vICFyTXnLgZW/JW0+8UQ0l466bHj08xsfy/tUX2wy1mYiNozbk EFv2iQ6le9zQp1OsKIYu8g5CnNC0EDGm40jfi8DjklNsAnap3h8V3YX5nLmY3nqkQfWe +1M8NEX01d+eNjI41K3qW2wowgfyIqQkiuOJwKY27astILcegZ78oJb/oksdg5dB66N/ SQy0oUIH4SscoVKbIrlEYlbYDdheKIEM72AGSwH95fPUyXP95XNHYWpNwKMI7iWgcqRh xNJQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:message-id:date:references:in-reply-to:to; bh=pakp2FKSNzC3+z6Tn0C3GjFGx57sVUDo5oQpVEQCSTk=; b=e98XsNf4gIlGy4FbgajpHpdTC8sLYFgq/BmgJN0nVtJ28x/KTTL/r/jTEuQQw+fPy5 obzE93LuDQ/1RIPnvIvXT3Ha0x2caH/RUolZSNQjNl2KjQ6D+ttIUnySWplo7RtLXMd3 i1//y4TN9KGZyAKApQ24whHZRRmyGRGjRLVJlOA0O9ikzLPhg+xMaKdft4XzzMBlnV+h RPnTD/3UVaXgdMISQ5SOs1NnU7zTyMapTSbUGXl7SZL6bovN8fVLKtrjaaU/wo2jA6fa rzkU+1Os8P4pTdoBPDh9FE5u9CZoR+HoYOGg9oLqoYBwDUVPmBCQODr9SsEO+ojtNrGl VeJQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwOJ7x8P85vCPyEi1MSZBXaZFxfkpGpwpXjufiAcuJVvyB+NeZK0EBSrK2rlVieL5A== X-Received: by 10.25.18.18 with SMTP id h18mr4519899lfi.115.1474299215503; Mon, 19 Sep 2016 08:33:35 -0700 (PDT) From: mark francombe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: Ribbon synth memories anyone? Message-Id: <627FC914-4F44-43F3-B1A0-C1A0FD6D8F89@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 17:33:33 +0200 References: In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13G36) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125258 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 15:33:37 +0000 (UTC) Yes, it wasnt that i was thinking of... this had a rudimentary Sound source b= uilt In... m Sent from my (advertisement removed) > On 19 Sep 2016, at 17:07, Sylvain Poitras wro= te: >=20 > I imagine you're already aware of Doepfer's ribbon controller? > There's a CV and a MIDI version, if I recall correctly. > Sylvain >=20 > =E2=80=8B From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 21 22:16:24 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0006514390D; Wed, 21 Sep 2016 22:16:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.35 at arsenic; Wed, 21 Sep 2016 22:16:23 UTC X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hblnxmtascan3.hostbaby.com Message-ID: <3905d0cb765b253e88adc5991bd3d237.squirrel@noahpeterson.com.hostbaby.com> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 17:09:41 -0500 Subject: 2016 Rocky Mountain LoopFest - Live Stream URL and artist info From: "Noah Peterson" To: "Loopers-Delight" Reply-To: noah@noahpeterson.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125259 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 22:16:23 +0000 (UTC) Hey y'all, Just a quick note. The regional showcase, The Rocky Mountain LoopFest will be broadcast live from Denver, CO at from the King Center Recital Hall at the University of Denver on Saturday 9/24. Artists are almost exclusively from Colorado except for me, The Electric Noodle from San Francisco, CA (played 2015 loopfests), Thawind Mills out of Austin, TX, and Dr. Robert Matheson from St. George, Utah. There are no international participants. The live stream is here: Watch the concert live at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/peterson-entertainment-llc Schedule: Mountain Standard Time Thawind Mills - Austin, TX 5pm Josie Quick - Denver, CO 5:30pm Christopher Ryan - Lakewood, CO 6pm The Electric Noodle - San Francisco, CA 6:30pm Noah Peterson - San Antonio, TX 7pm Robert Matheson - St. George, UT 7:30pm Subtleties - Fort Collins, CO 8pm Jake Edwards - Denver, CO - 8:30pm Mister Tim - Denver, CO - 9pm Lysergian Sound Diplomats - Denver, CO 9:30pm Descriptions: Thawind Mills from Austin, TX - I'm a nationally touring singer/songwriter out of Austin, TX. I make loops on the fly. I perform against them and do musical entertainment. Josie Quick from Denver, CO - Starting simply, Josie Quick creates her own string orchestra with a single electric violin. With the use of live looping she can sound like a blues band, other times like an African marimba ensemble. Her wide musical influences and various techniques create an ocean of sound, providing the perfect accompaniment to her spontaneous improvisations. Christopher Ryan from Lakewood, CO - Rhythm and melody based looping. Live percussion (Drums, cymbal, etc.) and digital percussion combine with guitar, vocals and effects to create songs rooted in the acoustic world but with their own unique feel. Song styles range from folk to hip hop. The Electric Noodle from San Francisco, CA - LOUD! Noah Peterson from San Antonio, TX - This show is a presentation of original music arranged for sax and loop station. Funky jams, bluesy grooves, and tropical tunes are cleverly stacked before your very ears as you witness a hot, funky, mess of music - it's Sax-a-loop-a-Liscious! Robert Matheson from St. George, UT - Robert Matheson performs solo works for double bass and computer. Seeking a more fluid interaction between acoustic and electro-acoustic music, he designed and built the MIDI bass. His setup allows him to perform live electro-acoustic music while maintaining the integrity of the natural, acoustic sound of the bass. Robert holds a Doctorate of Musical Arts degree in bass performance from the University of Arizona where he studied with Patrick Neher. He has performed with ensembles representing a wide range of musical genres, including the Ironwood Duo, Portable Masterpieces, and the Tucson Chamber Orchestra. He teaches at Dixie State University and performs in the orchestra at Tuacahn Center for the Arts. Subtleties from Fort Collins, CO - I incorporate a mixture of guitar loops and drum loops to form structured songs. Jake Edwards from Denver, CO - My performance is pretty simple-I loop all the percussion on my guitar along with rhythm and sing and play leads. Mister Tim from Denver, CO - Organic indie rock, infused with soul, funk, electronica, americana, singer-songwriter, and progressive beatbox hip-hop cerebral PEW PEW PEW... ... completely from the mouth of Mister Tim. Live-looping beats, bass, melodies, harmonies, fx, and "instruments" with one mouth and one microphone. Blending classical training (opera/classical/choral/jazz voice, trumpet, French horn, choral conducting) and decades of immersed-in-everything street training (musical theater, improv comedy, ska/funk/jazz/rock/folk bands, street theater, drum ensembles...) with a unique storytelling voice that is at turns quirky, dark, contemplative, angry, angsty, and odd. Lysergian Sound Diplomats from Boulder, CO - The Diplomats come in peace. Proud ambassadors of Lysergia. Lysergia is Earth’s sister planet located on the opposite side of the Milky Way galaxy. Their ships are often spotted on helioviewer entering and exiting our solar system from the center of the sun. Lot’s of people have visited Lysergia by using dimension bending, mind expanding, chi (Qi) enhancing practices. Their show’s are packed full of crazy music technology that release intense sound often referred to as light sabers synthesizers. They communicate via their music and are the epitome of “being able to see sounds” or “feel, tastes colors.” I hope you'll tune in and watch. Noah Peterson Entertainment, Llc 999 East Basse Road #180-117 San Antonio, TX 78209 503-703-9516 -- www.noahpeterson.com www.petersonentertainment.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 26 16:02:47 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 328E214390C; Mon, 26 Sep 2016 16:02:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=glasswing-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=IoJMzkFAkOI+mjW+7sArOSg6OAW+w8Yxv3lY93UEO2M=; b=ssUCmxROgPjfAvnnBgNBOcZcY1M5+Wh1+YpyoXSoPvUFxuYjsQAU1TDoZr9NkgWvfl K7JJhM+ASkIb+R3E0wp4dETcZBE6PSLf4T3qaVKtvC1gwUbhSAK6hMpWWeiCDHW8Tw3t vDolqdX914SZr/uxxOLRC5q5gA2yF2397pusIeFv71NxHBrH4/ttBzCs7diHJOzwdMWk 5BJnet06VXN86ImnwC5kLsHe6S9kaiM92orzJ2I8NVhReP+pUIrDpmggrXfsXzAy3gPd amrvdoWmiWPLw2GDOkNrb5SLmFBTMxZQEIM60M7SKKH5cjqbkWvNCWHDS79FFODdvu7P iDyg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=IoJMzkFAkOI+mjW+7sArOSg6OAW+w8Yxv3lY93UEO2M=; b=jgDqeJ51LzsWqjpXcw+pN3ZHgi/fmAc3YyYFMxG7CPQqZUmLj8xH3CxWFupODqzHdB e/yuEi70Es0s+jEi3WAZEnMO9mLLwDIW6WB1d2EPAliZa7zl26gpyJk9Eb2ErdV20Mq4 jGPeuJ4nFkOgd3S9qJZ3pwVSWKdOhDKkexhBPEuwEMtHUzvEAEOaJot9ibZ4z77FlByV gILfFwRvKtaiTYXPeX3ADBT3gKl4Yf5hoWXDpENdjHobU/MEK4+uleQmN3XquZEOoKAQ mSONkWFfpBsag3J76c/vWR/qSqw6RNkz/G5GrXpdhjROJIQh+Uob44/suWQ63v9TQV3P Bhjg== X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9RmQ9oZWBX7vm6X7tgv4xD1LLHJg4qlkuB9XigWs7dWBCvp51b9xU7M6+PeFgK0OXq63KSOZ6ZZBDgvOlA== X-Received: by 10.31.200.71 with SMTP id y68mr9608761vkf.126.1474905766312; Mon, 26 Sep 2016 09:02:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5AFC6C9F-7BF7-458F-A0D6-C2D78118B63F@icloud.com> References: <5AFC6C9F-7BF7-458F-A0D6-C2D78118B63F@icloud.com> From: Richard Sales Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 09:02:25 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: strange Mobius behavior To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114dc658475bd6053d6b425d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125260 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 16:02:47 +0000 (UTC) --001a114dc658475bd6053d6b425d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Testing El Capitan here (on separate, not SSD startup HD) after a LONG TIME with Mtn Lion. Seems to be working. Seems a bit faster than ML - and ML is hosted on very fast SSD. Updated Omnisphere2 and lost all my old settings and projects, but Ivory and other Synthogy pianos, and Kontakt 5 seem to be working just fine. More testing to come. I need to update because iTunes (when ML is OS) can't update authorization of Apple ID on Apple TV. Another problem is eLicenser software doesn't seem to work now on either OS! The eLicenser stick does. Go figure. I used to really love technology. On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 7:36 PM, bill walker wrote: > On Monday I did a long overdue operating system upgrade to El Capitan on > my my mac book. Since then Mobius has been behaving very strangely. > Initially, ween opening Mobius the display is sluggish, and the midi > controller Im using, a McMillen 12 step is issuing commands and Im able t= o > record, ply etc.., but the Mobius display doesn=E2=80=99t give any indica= tion that > functions are working,t and this is also true for keyboard commands > however. If I use a mouse and Mobius buttons, Ill see record functions an= d > play functions initiated but the red and green wheel cycles are frozen no= t > spinning at tempo. And then after about 5 minutes or so, everything start= s > to function as normal. the 12 step not only initiates commands but the > screen indicates those commands are happening. This is so bizarre and I > have no clue what might be happening. For what its worth Im on Mobius 2.5= . > Has anyone else experienced this problem? > Thanks > Bill > --=20 *richard sales* www.glasswing.com *Hope is the thing with feathers that perches in the soul - **Emily Dickinson* --001a114dc658475bd6053d6b425d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tes= ting El Capitan here (on separate, not SSD startup HD) after a LONG TIME wi= th Mtn Lion.
Se= ems to be working.=C2=A0 Seems a bit faster than ML - and ML is hosted on v= ery fast SSD.
U= pdated Omnisphere2 and lost all my old settings and projects, but Ivory and= other Synthogy pianos, and Kontakt 5 seem to be working just fine.=C2=A0 M= ore testing to come.=C2=A0
I need to update because iTunes (when ML is OS) can't updat= e authorization of Apple ID on Apple TV.
Another problem is eLicenser software doesn't= seem to work now on either OS!=C2=A0 The eLicenser stick does.
Go figure.
I used to really love technolo= gy.

On= Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 7:36 PM, bill walker <wildbillwalker@icloud.= com> wrote:
On Monday I did= a long overdue operating system upgrade to El Capitan on my my mac book. S= ince then Mobius has been behaving very strangely. Initially, ween opening = Mobius the display is sluggish, and the midi controller Im using, a McMille= n 12 step is issuing commands and Im able to record, ply etc.., but the Mob= ius display doesn=E2=80=99t give any indication that functions are working,= t and this is also true for keyboard commands however. If I use a mouse and= Mobius buttons, Ill see record functions and play functions initiated but = the red and green wheel cycles are frozen not spinning at tempo. And then a= fter about 5 minutes or so, everything starts to function as normal. the 12= step not only initiates commands but the screen indicates those commands a= re happening. This is so bizarre and I have no clue what might be happening= . For what its worth Im on Mobius 2.5. Has anyone else experienced this pro= blem?
Thanks
=C2=A0Bill



--
richard sales
www.glasswin= g.com

<= strong style=3D"line-height:1.2;color:rgb(121,119,116);font-family:verdana,= arial,sans-serif;font-size:11px">Hope is the thing with feathers that perch= es in the soul -=C2=A0Emily Dick= inson

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I used to really love technology.

Isn't that the truth :-)


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On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 7:36 PM, bill = walker <wildbillwalker@icloud.com> wrote:
=
On Monday I did a lon= g overdue operating system upgrade to El Capitan on my my mac book. Since t= hen Mobius has been behaving very strangely. Initially, ween opening Mobius= the display is sluggish, and the midi controller Im using, a McMillen 12 s= tep is issuing commands and Im able to record, ply etc.., but the Mobius di= splay doesn=E2=80=99t give any indication that functions are working,t and = this is also true for keyboard commands however. If I use a mouse and Mobiu= s buttons, Ill see record functions and play functions initiated but the re= d and green wheel cycles are frozen not spinning at tempo. And then after a= bout 5 minutes or so, everything starts to function as normal. the 12 step = not only initiates commands but the screen indicates those commands are hap= pening. This is so bizarre and I have no clue what might be happening. For = what its worth Im on Mobius 2.5. Has anyone else experienced this problem?<= br> Thanks
=C2=A0Bill



--
richard sales=
www.glass= wing.com

Hope is the thing with feathers that perches= in the soul -=C2=A0Emily Dickinson

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--
Till now you seriously considere= d yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignoran= ce which is the root cause of all trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1= 950)

--001a11c168fa082a60053d6b5462-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 26 16:46:08 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF36514390E; Mon, 26 Sep 2016 16:46:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=fCDUZnGjhbvlwOIHKbESrKUpFoxAh7CDOkRc9z+0n/E=; b=KN+bIye5B4h2AdmdXwfFhWpd4juvO6dC6rNxN8ti6b0+jjBZblSFx9mt4YHgF2IHo3 YITzzB/brLps9yhFKO8vVYwCZVQv1SWv+fXvwuZGPYwM0AevvS8/gGkgJwOELnSeHAb+ TKE3c939GBzcdpLtwcnp8mXsIQACOJdQ0u5+R2eKJPcjpzFiPDTaG7HMggpIcj3JTigC jCYLL++LUEht0umpFVnGF/05vHpi1FjauLusi7JJB+bIaH5U/PkeHCJcNoJCc9KZvmO2 V8i0dbvywN9D31n96AlkO315DJtCsluYWXpP7PlmdJXM7U28WN2G+pO0SR3AnNY04FdW 6s7w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=fCDUZnGjhbvlwOIHKbESrKUpFoxAh7CDOkRc9z+0n/E=; b=JZoL0qqMpU53Zkc1jyy+3JV093UqjbYH8V3nhJsHA39ffAcROdQn8MSscRYih0l6Ix merDVXtUBWNTjB0eFCr5nVAqA+DyXSxPUQZmvQP35V/F4hYuz9bhQ5jrqo50cZ57owJg AOdZHjuk5UdUsIljDXM27djs8Z5sVWkzwax4l5iRAOD84Sse06AWiRJOB0NLh1E5Bblb fnjxBpT6y1ePmteMMBCabMU/q/LRQfYJIUKxXxv5uuzQAGRSWGxG89FY6PyWhAZX5ZO/ cR/XiCb67skCq107fftpYPj3pZiOnolV9KpUqQ7njQQNF+ZnYTITMjNZ/t8e03jLU2oH M5HA== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwPb6lwDzSDItr3xgZ6NKGeAT/by9ZuPg0qP8LoHCtBkzeKXkOOySNxHpQPSWcaC+8kKaorWBoRVn0KbxQ== X-Received: by 10.202.87.76 with SMTP id l73mr27731149oib.84.1474908367731; Mon, 26 Sep 2016 09:46:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Tyler Zahnke Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 12:46:07 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Clips of my upcoming experimental/collage album now available on AnyAudio To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <8-oGED.A.k_H.QDV6XB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125262 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 16:46:08 +0000 (UTC) Hello, loopers! In January, I started working on a new album, Choice Samples Mixtape, under the alias Mini Nifty. Those of you who are members of the Sample Junkies Anonymous Facebook group have already heard a track from it called Images of Believing. Basically, they are sample-based tracks, making use of sound found in my collection of CD's, tapes and downloads; movies, TV, radio, famous songs, obscure songs that got passed around on underground tapes; it is considered sound collage, a.k.a. sample-based music. This sample cut-up music is in no way intended to infringe; I use sampling to pay tribute to music, movies and more. My DJ sampling name is Mini Nifty, so that is why my page on AnyAudio is called the Mini Nifty page. My most famous track by far is Images of Believing, which contains dozens of clips of people saying, or singing, the word "believe". "I'm a Believer", "Don't Stop Believing", "I Believe I Can Fly", some songs simply called "Believe", and some clips from movies such as The Wizard of Oz (1939) and South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut (1999). Other tracks include Ring Ring, a tribute to telephones, and especially but not specifically comedy sketches related to telephones. Welcome to the Tape was my first ever sample-based track, which was designed as an introduction to my sample-based work! So I knew I was going to be creating a lot of cut-ups from the get-go, so I said to myself, why not have my first one be an intro to the ones I do in the future? So if you like Wayne Butane, or if you don't know who that is, Negativland, if you don't know who that is, if you like the sound of songs, movies broadcasts, podcasts and any other kind of recorded audio all put together to form an audio-painting, listen to the Mini Nifty tracks on AnyAudio! Several new ones come out every month, so keep checking back! I have been unsubscribed from this list for some time, so I'm looking forward to hearing what you think of the Mini Nifty sample tracks. Seriously, my voice and my keyboard are never heard in these tracks; they are 100% made of existing recordings! I have many stacks of CD's, several boxes of tapes, and enough downloads to fill my 64 gigabyte thumb drive (plus a few backup thumb drives with smaller capacity, such as 4 gigabyte and 8 gigabyte), so I have a lot to choose from when cutting up audio! Thank goodness it's not the 1990s when Wayne Butane was big; he had to use a tape deck to do this! I use Audacity, thankfully! Here is the link to my sample-based madness! http://anyaudio.net/page?user=nifty Mini Nifty From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 26 17:34:16 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BEC07143910; Mon, 26 Sep 2016 17:34:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=glasswing-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=sDjAfyO86sbBJRsBEbj9+MmcGLuFVnp/2c3D6l6WrgI=; b=hlV1k8ymSxicrdz+Lm/WDxIMMVqzQnRjDm53Y5NoRPFdUc5NPwnHyK9I7hkhlVCuH0 l159R1WnsKu3EopB0lK/WO3ussB/rrx60ZN/bOEypVo9OXNHtmBVVmmQYgguXL93TBBW XNrVNxu9pzfy52EUk3YTD764yEce0G+r2iZz8AMeLL5YoqEZKOYz9fP+oqk6CePpHuAz 2+q0cK209DRRBu9fM2e7oSL09VPVRe15raydpaD7rVlewS87zNh0qwB9qj8EJmf3YWFG SmlCSa+ANMR+bkZeIqTdbdHEQau5toeHkZUr1DO4GOxwsumrwJwXfYlF5ZQfBRRX7i18 9fWw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=sDjAfyO86sbBJRsBEbj9+MmcGLuFVnp/2c3D6l6WrgI=; b=RBiY9242WBMrrTtg5bttYSS9lCU1gqB8KwtcY1K0m/IVta5CPwlv+ZXFSFnpFb7KQN /rc8363WL4bs1BlrUJpgxFLx5H2Ff1QHHUbUBk3PeIWWS4RKIdJORLT768XNeOiL2s2d TggPcRU50S9xXcz8liUeIOHZJJ18DbjB1U+4HBHlyUjqlAWeJ2rdM4VuV+b/Xq/83hsc lxmMje6SupUJk4UWpdTGNtBFUwBcM6He2sSn0klCk9TYjgXyk+v3b09M2JzPjFQJHsyA SZGpoO+Ox+yVvVGWdHGZTfHj1xRKmD2gWmhF2yJO9ou8IpE5sjRAkPTh+QK6R+1M2rQ5 1JJw== X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9RkfvmLHhlRstGD9ycYnu85dDQbz9Zj2WwxRRPuizNcHtbuqKuOXlb2bVqWHAvzUKL+n+9z7pkolfjuSng== X-Received: by 10.31.168.145 with SMTP id r139mr10091197vke.124.1474911255789; Mon, 26 Sep 2016 10:34:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <5AFC6C9F-7BF7-458F-A0D6-C2D78118B63F@icloud.com> From: Richard Sales Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 10:33:55 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: strange Mobius behavior To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11415e887a1c43053d6c8903 Resent-Message-ID: <1zSKlD.A.Wh.YwV6XB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125263 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 17:34:16 +0000 (UTC) --001a11415e887a1c43053d6c8903 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Yes indeed. My question nowadays is, Who's serving who? And it's a question that can range very wide - and reach into the deepest changes and most important elements in our culture. Tell you the Truth? I'm a little worried. And I'm not the worrying kind. On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 9:07 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > >> I used to really love technology. >> >> Isn't that the truth :-) > > > -- *richard sales* www.glasswing.com *Hope is the thing with feathers that perches in the soul - **Emily Dickinson* --001a11415e887a1c43053d6c8903 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes= indeed.=C2=A0 My question nowadays is, Who's serving who?
And it's a question tha= t can range very wide - and reach into the deepest changes and most importa= nt elements in our culture.=C2=A0 Tell you the Truth?=C2=A0 I'm a littl= e worried. And I'm not the worrying kind.

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 9:07 AM, Kevin Ch= eli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com> wrote:

I used to really love technology.

Isn't that the truth = :-)



--=
richard sales=
www.glass= wing.com

Hope is the thing with feathers that pe= rches in the soul -=C2=A0Emily D= ickinson

--001a11415e887a1c43053d6c8903-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 29 17:08:36 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D4C2FF7AF; Thu, 29 Sep 2016 17:08:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hblnxmtascan3.hostbaby.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 12:08:34 -0500 Subject: NW LoopFest From: "Noah Peterson" To: "Loopers-Delight" Reply-To: noah@noahpeterson.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/125264 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 17:08:36 +0000 (UTC) Hey All, Sorry for the livestream not working for Rocky Mountain LoopFest. I did get several messages asking about it. First it was a no you can't, then it was a yes you can, then it was two hours of not getting it working and running around like a crazy person. And then it was time to let it go and put the event on. Anyway.................... NW will be broadcast, SoCal will NOT be broadcast, Texas will be broadcast. ------------------------------------------------------------ The LoopFest returns for it's 5th year. After the 4 day, 3 city event last year, the 2016 event is going to be a more intimate affair. All performances on Oct 8th at, the Musicians Union, 325 NE 20th, Portland, OR. $5 cover at the door. The NW LoopFest is an electronic music presentation of artists who utilize looping technologies. Performers come from throughout the region with one guest artist, Hideki Nakanishi aka Mandoman, from Japan and Daves Device, an IPAD looping electronic/edm styled artist from San Antonio, TX. Artists will perform a variety of music on diverse technologies and with an interesting array of instruments. The concert will be streamed live at: www.ustream.tv/channel/peterson-entertainment-llc The official line-up: Tyler Carson - Portland, OR 4pm Professor Slicebox - Portland, OR 4:30pm Arbor Daze - Portland, OR 5pm Tim Scallon - Seattle, WA 5:30pm Riley Tyrel Carter - Boardman, OR 6pm Rock Forming Mineral - Eugene, OR 6:30pm PhiloPhobia - Corvallis, OR 7pm Jet Black Pearl - Portland, OR 7:30pm Saundra's Electric Night - Newport, OR 8pm Bodarc - Seattle, WA 8:30pm litmus0001 - Vancouver, WA 9pm ICONOPLASTY - Ashland, OR 9:30pm Mandoman - Osaka, Japan, 10pm Daves Device - San Antonio, TX 10:30pm www.nwloopfest.com 2016 Sponsors www.loopinglive.com www.moreleypedals.com www.pigtronix.com/infinity www.voicecouncilmagazine.com www.petersonentertainment.com www.tc-helicon.com/en/products/perform-v/ www.petersonentertainment.com Peterson Entertainment, Llc 999 East Basse Road #180-117 San Antonio, TX 78209 503-703-9516 -- www.noahpeterson.com www.petersonentertainment.com