From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 1 00:59:11 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FA791834C1; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 00:59:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2mYcHkCeUrNibCyOd8Noz5vbGU79UZYY/TiOpgehBRs=; b=uSGmcGWbIGmaNc0bK90ciGbg/B3Unwr7ftvy1ZlmM9uY8x3604IeiMJX5h7DaZaAfU kugzSVgXPqQ1rUwMDP6m+DVE4y/m7D/1dBAKehZb+cTJcOpsPxujYUaDKLt7PneW8h+2 B86dEgP9ERi2VA1xkG5zhvIfl4Ri/6hV8oB8QKFK17kqTB8W+mX26bf4+Bkuw82okGN8 ip1sSWizwmNfrqz08L1pdiYoBG4/yww2NX1m9FhKLWv6lZd/51mUGZP/5i5G0kqWi7gf 9kLi0/l2DZafwC2hzuvJNXg0IfQ4HP+MpthKe5S2MsYCrIge1dbVQwlIgvE0MCRYEmHZ du7A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.170.101 with SMTP id al5mr7096594oec.48.1362099550428; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 16:59:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 16:59:10 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Trento gig recording and pics From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <9zX7VD.A.cjG.f1_LRB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120366 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 00:59:11 +0000 (UTC) That was really great, thanks for sharing. Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 1 01:01:05 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 854651834C4; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 01:01:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8327,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-02-28_09:2013-02-28,2013-02-28,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=5 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1302280248 From: Daniel Thomas Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_0B0646D1-CA3E-436B-880A-050EE8E0F258" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: Trento gig recording and pics Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 17:01:04 -0800 References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120367 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 01:01:05 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_0B0646D1-CA3E-436B-880A-050EE8E0F258 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Loving this Mark! d On Feb 28, 2013, at 1:29 PM, mark francombe = wrote: > IM not FBing this cos there too many people to ask if its OK (there = are whispers of an edit, a remix and a release ha ha) >=20 > http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/trento-gig-report/ >=20 > BUT heres my page regarding my show in Italy last week (I play so = rarely now, every gig gets a whole page on my blog!)=20 >=20 > Theres pics, and audio! No video tho... there rumours of 3 minutes of = iPhone somewhere... >=20 > The whole gig recorded thru the desk, so a bit of funky mix... almost = no bass (He was going thru a Mesa Boogie thing). > Everything is improvised, except: > The samples are actually sound tracks to video we were showing, of my = wife singing some old Norsk Folk songs... > And 2 drum loops in Abelton Live... operated by my tech guy, who was = also doing the video projections. >=20 > All the glitching electronic stuff is me...using 2 EDPs a EF303, kaos = quad. >=20 > I was accompanied by 3 fantastic Italian musicians on Fretless Bass, = Treble Sax (is that whats its called.. the straight one) and guy = playing a VERY old Swedish Instrument, called (correct me here Per) a = Nikkelharpe, whichs is a violin with keys! He also played West Indian = Steel drums, and those african things, you know... them wotsits with the = metal strips on a wooden box... hate them myself, boring, but he made = VERY good use of them... Kalinka, or Kalimba.. I dunno.. some ethnic = hippy thing. >=20 > Somehow the mix of electronics and live acoustic sounds worked pretty = well... >=20 > Enjoy... >=20 > --=20 > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --Apple-Mail=_0B0646D1-CA3E-436B-880A-050EE8E0F258 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Loving this Mark!

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On Feb 28, 2013, at 1:29 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:

IM not FBing this cos there too many people to ask if its OK (there are whispers of an edit, a remix and a release ha ha)


BUT heres my page regarding my show in Italy last week (I play so rarely now, every gig gets a whole page on my blog!) 

Theres pics, and audio! No video tho... there rumours of 3 minutes of iPhone somewhere...

The whole gig recorded thru the desk, so a bit of funky mix... almost no bass (He was going thru a Mesa Boogie thing).
Everything is improvised, except:
The samples are actually sound tracks to video we were showing, of my wife singing some old Norsk Folk songs...
And 2 drum loops in Abelton Live... operated by my tech guy, who was also doing the video projections.

All the glitching electronic stuff is me...using 2 EDPs a EF303, kaos quad.

I was accompanied by 3 fantastic Italian musicians on Fretless Bass, Treble Sax (is that whats its called.. the straight one) and  guy playing a VERY old Swedish Instrument, called (correct me here Per) a Nikkelharpe, whichs is a violin with keys! He also played West Indian Steel drums, and those african things, you know... them wotsits with the metal strips on a wooden box... hate them myself, boring, but he made VERY good use of them... Kalinka, or Kalimba.. I dunno.. some ethnic hippy thing.

Somehow the mix of electronics and live acoustic sounds worked pretty well...

Enjoy...

--Apple-Mail=_0B0646D1-CA3E-436B-880A-050EE8E0F258-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 1 01:26:12 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 684921834BF; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 01:26:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XzArVi4ncIGj2Eb85Ybw7OJvSjUPPcuURZOxm5q0l9A=; b=efRdSBqj94nMvlqc2Yc9DG3jT+vysC7Wx51l8sCaaUvNLh6q0QrU5ijJX1UY7+HY+e BxVjCsmRT+rO9esdkYBqx+7LYrjz73UKHXgVzG5KYWaECX23wUs3RWZcKfNCVdPDWJBK XomMO2WqoGZgix2hdfUQ5TvLtvsN5TPO1lhQMrli2hK1DGmSxTmroMu3YxjRn0ugg4vG Y/eKRhLnxznyRRfk5VNOPk/Jx5tG1qK5y5+apE1Hpsf7NpqzZeaHQQxZ4MdeaZsiX9Qp oYUbwDFkLRr9jmpKjLph1ytP6JEIyiFFxnteagc/Aq32PklE6U8i0AHM4xBattNLDovY EEcg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.169.103 with SMTP id ad7mr7330557obc.51.1362101171641; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 17:26:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 16:26:11 -0900 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Trento gig recording and pics From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <2iv_RB.A.r4G.0OAMRB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120368 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 01:26:12 +0000 (UTC) Mark, If you don't post it on the FaceBork page, I will! :P ~~D. http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:29 PM, mark francombe wrote: > IM not FBing this cos there too many people to ask if its OK (there are > whispers of an edit, a remix and a release ha ha) > > http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/trento-gig-report/ > > BUT heres my page regarding my show in Italy last week (I play so rarely > now, every gig gets a whole page on my blog!) > > Theres pics, and audio! No video tho... there rumours of 3 minutes of iPhone > somewhere... > > The whole gig recorded thru the desk, so a bit of funky mix... almost no > bass (He was going thru a Mesa Boogie thing). > Everything is improvised, except: > The samples are actually sound tracks to video we were showing, of my wife > singing some old Norsk Folk songs... > And 2 drum loops in Abelton Live... operated by my tech guy, who was also > doing the video projections. > > All the glitching electronic stuff is me...using 2 EDPs a EF303, kaos quad. > > I was accompanied by 3 fantastic Italian musicians on Fretless Bass, Treble > Sax (is that whats its called.. the straight one) and guy playing a VERY > old Swedish Instrument, called (correct me here Per) a Nikkelharpe, whichs > is a violin with keys! He also played West Indian Steel drums, and those > african things, you know... them wotsits with the metal strips on a wooden > box... hate them myself, boring, but he made VERY good use of them... > Kalinka, or Kalimba.. I dunno.. some ethnic hippy thing. > > Somehow the mix of electronics and live acoustic sounds worked pretty > well... > > Enjoy... > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 1 07:38:31 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 243E61834C1; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 07:38:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: Trento gig recording and pics Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 08:38:18 +0100 Message-ID: <002f01ce164f$be3e1450$3aba3cf0$@de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0030_01CE1658.20027C50" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac4WGD91eRSYSx2VQ4+J9nGtcZq+0QAN1xQg Content-Language: de Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120369 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 07:38:31 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01CE1658.20027C50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit great stuff Mark, very diverse and entertaining! -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01CE1658.20027C50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

great = stuff Mark, very diverse and entertaining!=C2=A0=C2=A0 -Michael

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<= /body> ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01CE1658.20027C50-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 1 08:28:35 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 557291834BF; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 08:28:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=f6G6bxiW6qIbLSpnhSBrsFVL8ZwTs+Zwbmgxvlem7mk=; b=PrfPXoBC3194p3KMtcv9kY2bN00wCcR1DjbKYwGCZtWt5YDXN9niV/WVHXlI79SbRJ WlEQ6KiR4WMShE1sVatMzoZdfSDNHf3cCRBNKJ/+wlavmKUgrvOLwDcfBJ+SXLPj0I7U yW3yDLTmRTCQU4KS/RPrxTcceLEsNy9L0M5xSWVB3WVoR6LYaz6XzthKFIcem3SoB4T3 RqPs1rB89pzbvy4n/HSQxFz7A6p/2/7wafNcfsPh3dFPb/VsWEs8q93xIGs1IVCrn34f aUomjTutdHgPgFBe4GqnYL/o4L0ebAQhREb/cRwGlcPARFzQ7S51dHT+zRUEVxcqFaK1 ciAQ== X-Received: by 10.220.240.11 with SMTP id ky11mr3697458vcb.11.1362126514677; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 00:28:34 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <002f01ce164f$be3e1450$3aba3cf0$@de> References: <002f01ce164f$be3e1450$3aba3cf0$@de> From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 09:28:14 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: GGMUZSZD7iM0et4UF8lKU06N8Mw Message-ID: Subject: Re: Trento gig recording and pics To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9cdcc750c210704d6d8cb23 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120370 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 08:28:35 +0000 (UTC) --14dae9cdcc750c210704d6d8cb23 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks guys! @Per The Sax guy IS great isn=B4t he? The cello sound is also me, its eithe= r a cello from the GR55, or bowing I did both.. although I used a rusty metal rod instead of a bow. GOD The Orb.. forgotten about them... but I see what you mean. its the down tempo drum loop I think? @Dennis I would post it to Facebook, but its just that the Italian guys might wanna do something with the recording.. I think the bass guy was very unhappy, you hear him a bit at the start and in the quiet bits, but is totally gone by the end, and there is a definite lack of bass for the second half... I guess he turned up, and so the Sound guy turned him down thru the desk... He's talking about re recording the bass... Hmmm IM more of a "well thats how it was" kind of guy... but still I like to respect their views... Anyway, thx for the Big ups... Its nice to have got the "one gig per year" (Actually 2 already this year) out of the way.. can relax, anything else is bonus! M On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > great stuff Mark, very diverse and entertaining! -Michael**** > > ** ** > --=20 *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --14dae9cdcc750c210704d6d8cb23 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks guys!
@Per The Sax guy IS great isn=B4t he? The= cello sound is also me, its either a cello from the GR55, or bowing I did = both.. although I used a rusty metal rod instead of a bow. GOD The Orb..=A0= forgotten=A0about them... but I see what you mean. its the down tempo drum = loop I think?

@Dennis I would post it to Facebook, but its just that = the Italian guys might wanna do something with the recording.. I think the = bass guy was very unhappy, you hear him a bit at the start and in the quiet= bits, but is totally gone by the end, and there is a=A0definite=A0lack of = bass for the second half... I guess he turned up, and so the Sound guy turn= ed him down thru the desk...=A0He's=A0talking about re recording the ba= ss... Hmmm IM more of a "well thats how it was" kind of guy... bu= t still I like to respect their views...

Anyway, thx for the Big ups... Its nice to have got the= "one gig per year" (Actually 2 already this year) out of the way= .. can relax, anything else is bonus!

M


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--14dae9cdcc750c210704d6d8cb23-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 1 09:28:33 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B6A01834C1; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 09:28:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <513074FC.6070104@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2013 10:29:32 +0100 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT:Clicky switches and maybe microphonic guitar... References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120371 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 09:28:33 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: > ...my installation of a Deusenberger Multibender.. Nice! Don't hear too many using this lovely piece of engineering marvel ;) I assume you're talking about the Deusenberger/Rockinger Multibender bridge for slide works, yes? I would love me such a setup. I stopped playing slide because I got so tired of playing majors only, and just didn't know about the various multibenders. The ability to do minors and augmenteds takes slide playing to a whole different kosmos. If only the base part could be redesigned to look a Bit less bulky, and be made for seven strings, I'd be totally sold. Actually, I've sometimes thought of asking them about this, and have me a double neck build. Hehe, a fretless neck would be equally suitable both for fretless and slide works, so... -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 1 10:05:44 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4D0E1834C0; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 10:05:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=kJWObRRHwt/ZsOHvHw0sk7WfyWEfwEitXHO+M7HJ6Mo=; b=IVx3WETN/NSjdWr6NForeNevcUIr2TFDYf90Ww7Nz3MDPumAxHMwHKJlByk3MJ2XDP 9v+xEodPm6sxsgtkjOBCUj0Iycpw4ZptfCT0VjawAlYTRKB+0BeUb/OYu/mtyZy9rnk+ bNyqawywJqWO53kAUGiNCj2/TzX6yLjOVFpYQqvBa0nUqGQk587mPWI4eMWYvJ7JbFlY VX+j91+FFSqf8H65bW0QOWpPatdLZB2XxXQkiqp5MfFXjN4LNKPjNLHzTMf2DIh/q4c/ 5wY6Wbn+flkZFw7N0cLqysVy2rr4++dmNPc60FX+xArCFO3RKt0Khqj0DwJz4y/5U/HL eDxg== X-Received: by 10.220.223.14 with SMTP id ii14mr3790270vcb.50.1362132343988; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 02:05:43 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <513074FC.6070104@post.cybercity.dk> References: <513074FC.6070104@post.cybercity.dk> From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 11:05:22 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: agsGCp49P86hkzAab1ivcf_nEQU Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT:Clicky switches and maybe microphonic guitar... To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9cdc03380577204d6da2609 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120372 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 10:05:44 +0000 (UTC) --14dae9cdc03380577204d6da2609 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have to admit that Im not using it that way, I dont tune my guitar to open tuning, although I intend to set up some GR55 patches which will virtually do that. I have 3 bend arms fitted, which is a bit overkill, as you have to move at least 1 of them out of the way. Im using it to push certian strings up a tone (and one string down) this doent really result in the typical country sound, but thats mostly my playing. For me the nice thing is that chord playing can start to sound a bit fluid and "slippery" (technical musical term)... and can nicely push a minor chord to major, or rather I like to do the reverse. Play a chord with one arm pressed down (giving a major tone) and slowly releasing it, making it minor... A bit like Spiritualized do. I need more practice though, its not as easy as it looks! Mark On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:29 AM, van Sinn wrote: > mark francombe wrote: > > ...my installation of a Deusenberger Multibender.. >> > > Nice! Don't hear too many using this lovely piece of engineering marvel ;) > I assume you're talking about the Deusenberger/Rockinger Multibender > bridge for slide works, yes? > > I would love me such a setup. I stopped playing slide because I got so > tired of playing majors only, and just didn't know about the various > multibenders. > The ability to do minors and augmenteds takes slide playing to a whole > different kosmos. > > If only the base part could be redesigned to look a Bit less bulky, and be > made for seven strings, I'd be totally sold. > Actually, I've sometimes thought of asking them about this, and have me a > double neck build. Hehe, a fretless neck would be equally suitable both > for fretless and slide works, so... > > -- > rgds, > van Sinn > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --14dae9cdc03380577204d6da2609 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have to admit that Im not using it that way, I dont tune= my guitar to open tuning, although I intend to set up some GR55 patches wh= ich will virtually do that. I have 3 bend arms fitted, which is a bit overk= ill, as you have to move at least 1 of them out of the way. Im using it to = push certian strings up a tone (and one string down) this doent really resu= lt in the=A0typical=A0country sound, but thats=A0mostly=A0my playing. For m= e the nice thing is that chord playing can start to sound a bit fluid and &= quot;slippery" (technical musical term)... and can nicely push a minor= chord to major, or rather I like to do the reverse. Play a chord with one = arm pressed down (giving a major tone) and=A0slowly=A0releasing=A0it, makin= g it minor... A bit like Spiritualized do.

I need more practice though, its not as easy as it loo= ks!

Mark


On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:29 AM= , van Sinn <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk> wrote:
mark francombe wrote:

...my installation of a Deusenberger Multibender..

Nice! =A0Don't hear too many using this lovely piece of engineering mar= vel ;)
I assume you're talking about the Deusenberger/Rockinger Multibender br= idge for slide works, yes?

I would love me such a setup. I stopped playing slide because I got so tire= d of playing majors only, and just didn't know about the various multib= enders.
The ability to do minors and augmenteds takes slide playing to a whole diff= erent kosmos.

If only the base part could be redesigned to look a Bit less bulky, and be = made for seven strings, I'd be totally sold.
Actually, I've sometimes thought of asking them about this, and have me= a double neck build. =A0Hehe, a fretless neck would be equally suitable bo= th for fretless and slide works, so...

--
rgds,
van Sinn




-- Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
<= /font>
--14dae9cdc03380577204d6da2609-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 1 10:57:14 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94F471834C0; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 10:57:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PZFPaYjeZDuNsX1UBat1RLRBPUVaRZOFS2wPKY3CuAM=; b=Xj7dy/MbBio5w9efKJDF7E7gvlAcOdCFeM52kyY50uaBWvORNgdu50btTakC6ijOMO /3W16CQOO9IH9SUs2QkgVDZvVL29SaMEgIkZaI4c8w8boIxLz654j9hsbWjP1SIn/3lK nLK7W/VHdo2Yf4boapHgg8ky0FZFpzyPorWyPjd++UgmcvTGFG5CGfl8NBGAfEUgCHGy oCcgxoZvnQVunYu9ljhYnsWQebeEkKZqcOA9wKuAzWomcwqrDfff1hP6KB12RZmp+mta 003nXTQTacmxJwKtJ+IFfgrEFeCX2zJPF5PXVpQi+AtsJ4WBzdJ9Wpi9fKXBjI9OftkD n3iA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.221.10.14 with SMTP id oy14mr3802982vcb.34.1362135434066; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 02:57:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <002f01ce164f$be3e1450$3aba3cf0$@de> Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 11:57:13 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Trento gig recording and pics From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120373 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 10:57:14 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 9:28 AM, mark francombe wro= te: > @Per The Sax guy IS great isn=C2=B4t he? The cello sound is also me, its = either a > cello from the GR55, or bowing I did both.. although I used a rusty metal > rod instead of a bow. GOD The Orb.. forgotten about them... but I see wha= t > you mean. its the down tempo drum loop I think? No not at all. I mean the vibe and collage approach (part of that is what you do IN STEAD OF using down tempo drum loops - LOL - like looping any non drum sound rhythmically. It seems you were mainly responsible for that here). Hillage's System 7 also comes to mind and of course Zoviet-France. It was fun to hear so much heritage in sound and an interesting thought is how much of this that was intended and how much that happened due to similar use of machinery and musician skills (looking at "musician skills" here as just another ingredient you might throw into the pot). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 1 11:51:37 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 526E51834BD; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 11:51:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=TZyakRxHl3tA5dS7sDasH0SIo5Vplg5Oiqes0OrmUeI=; b=Jh4yibYz9LRHuy0X1LKE41L4gG9kLogkUO3Hrq9/QCmzMzgnvHmBk2RdHD44BExAET PPkIHw2DUFbK4dTmftw/FZr40P/lFStKLEpCHume90LzT3qXkw/t3XRDHukEk8qf6PQp RQO2uobQyv/fsO145F3Zjxk2vG6BGHNMiLortt91W5UDOjBHN6hpB5dFXi9GpWukB2Dy wrRA9irIRL0vYkF898Zpop5xNjp196qGPpchwwejDMtv8f/Oxih0AwiI3hoIgCs8N19H V62IqwwyhvraZo97j8uQ5Nuk3C5muzHZrhU7JXvSO4s+csjutZ8HQy/qnBWI5k/RWTag mFoA== X-Received: by 10.220.248.74 with SMTP id mf10mr3943500vcb.0.1362138696629; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 03:51:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <002f01ce164f$be3e1450$3aba3cf0$@de> From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 12:51:16 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: XUZO3CpnOKeyL4Xsq4Rhwp_nVh4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Trento gig recording and pics To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54a37bc25f64404d6dba1db Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120374 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 11:51:37 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec54a37bc25f64404d6dba1db Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Funny you mention Zoviet France, ive been listening to them alot recently (finally got some old vinyl things on mp3), and I see what you mean. Especially with EDP-ish SUS stuff, that I do alot, a basically non-rhythmic source gets some rhythm over time. Its hard to plan, but we had one connection that was important to the sound. I had an audio line from the laptop (that did have the drum loops playing in Abelton Live) but I had the master level down on my mixer. But I could add a littl occasionly into my loops, by turning up the send to the loopers, that version of his loop, would then get chopped about a bit, and although kept "in synch" would move in relation to the original loop, dependent on what multiplying and stuttering I was doing. I like that there is always a "pulse" with Zoviet Frances stuff, but its often 5, 7 or whatever beats long, no obvious down beats, just loops. On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 9:28 AM, mark francombe > wrote: > > @Per The Sax guy IS great isn=B4t he? The cello sound is also me, its > either a > > cello from the GR55, or bowing I did both.. although I used a rusty met= al > > rod instead of a bow. GOD The Orb.. forgotten about them... but I see > what > > you mean. its the down tempo drum loop I think? > > No not at all. I mean the vibe and collage approach (part of that is > what you do IN STEAD OF using down tempo drum loops - LOL - like > looping any non drum sound rhythmically. It seems you were mainly > responsible for that here). Hillage's System 7 also comes to mind and > of course Zoviet-France. It was fun to hear so much heritage in sound > and an interesting thought is how much of this that was intended and > how much that happened due to similar use of machinery and musician > skills (looking at "musician skills" here as just another ingredient > you might throw into the pot). > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > --=20 *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --bcaec54a37bc25f64404d6dba1db Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Funny you mention Zoviet France, ive been listening to the= m alot recently (finally got some old vinyl things on mp3), and I see what = you mean. Especially with EDP-ish SUS stuff, that I do alot, a basically no= n-rhythmic=A0source gets some=A0rhythm over time. Its hard to plan, but we = had one connection that was important to the sound. I had an audio line fro= m the laptop (that did have the drum loops playing in Abelton Live) but I h= ad the master level down on my mixer. But I could add a littl occasionly in= to my loops, by turning up the send to the loopers, that version of his loo= p, would then get chopped about a bit, and although kept "in synch&quo= t; would move in relation to the original loop,=A0dependent=A0on what multi= plying and stuttering I was doing.

I like that there is always a "pulse" with Z= oviet Frances stuff, but its often 5, 7 or whatever beats long, no obvious = down beats, just loops.


On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 9:28 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote: > @Per The Sax guy IS great isn=B4t he? The cello sound is also me, its = either a
> cello from the GR55, or bowing I did both.. although I used a rusty me= tal
> rod instead of a bow. GOD The Orb.. forgotten about them... but I see = what
> you mean. its the down tempo drum loop I think?

No not at all. I mean the vibe and collage approach (part of that is<= br> what you do IN STEAD OF using down tempo drum loops - LOL - like
looping any non drum sound rhythmically. It seems you were mainly
responsible for that here). Hillage's System 7 also comes to mind and of course Zoviet-France. It was fun to hear so much heritage in sound
and an interesting thought is how much of this that was intended and
how much that happened due to similar use of machinery and musician
skills (looking at "musician skills" here as just another ingredi= ent
you might throw into the pot).

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.y= outube.com/perboysen




--
= Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
<= /font>
--bcaec54a37bc25f64404d6dba1db-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 1 12:18:35 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2A721834C1; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 12:18:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=I7rMANQxtuJU5l6ZoPQyyh+tIcFxbeFPWqrfrFWHNx0=; b=tt19XU7bLnKCjCYUUXWovPltcghuszEGkFkAujYLtoRwGt4tclkajKfQQihqGlRRtJ vWu989Tj3Iv9HLmCl2kGlcvcH5x41YdOQfVe55a/J9nlRZhAc8iSZ6UHOWsYks/ilYm+ do50E5inhYwWE9dFQSs4aE4g4P7lWW9uV8jlZX8PUZIEjG+NWbr8+JnTwHS8Q6ZzE+PP 3oLaKxibUcMGXnSgvKk2lv+6LmvmluCiGFtWZRFkngjiLVBnRWl/PoOCxUjq6/P4hDYH 3aLD4dDsfR9WLiroRgfSrRultBhLZTQGYIdAuQ/42x7feU5uD5DeC/JhRmrEoJQWt708 hJpQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.221.10.14 with SMTP id oy14mr3883417vcb.34.1362140315210; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 04:18:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <002f01ce164f$be3e1450$3aba3cf0$@de> Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 13:18:35 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Trento gig recording and pics From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120375 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 12:18:35 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 12:51 PM, mark francombe wrote: > I like that there is always a "pulse" with Zoviet Frances stuff, but its > often 5, 7 or whatever beats long, no obvious down beats, just loops. Yes, I like that too! And that they often use totally out-of-key sounds that in one way screams "not musical" but at the same time gives the full music a very deep evocative element. I was going to play at a Newcastle festival in the early nineties that they put on, Z-F fixed backline and flight tickets and everything - but the week before the festival Ben called me on the phone to tell that everything went down the drain since the police made a razzia and closed down the building hosting the venue. Thinking back on the dark ages before the internet it amazes me how we just lived on and accepted all that non communication and snail speed life as normal. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 1 12:34:09 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B2DC1834BF; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 12:34:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=QEt1rgSM3+aYeV6AJ3Z43oquXg8KLSb9aIrOz9+o2h8=; b=JJaiY3/a+toh4qa0sHAp45Zbn8pMSiK4vawmBNOpQ/y5kZSXo7fYLAhNR/aQZdvNjY IpRFMD+bJHOKTpdPHLW3h2lRZXpajBFF0NMEHuvhq2K8euQ4kJztkznXdX3QsszeCIbj hZRs4fDGqKcK44WrhS5emqU+jZI3jyxp2VWOuJAj2IFmrCXwMOFlbAPMyCFnj7jLHSp1 zmKViXDbjCaGB0A/Znpebx/NCf86gLvDT6XeHp90eFtx862VHsKR2Yl6C8Yz4p88yAjP Y36IDMWvzseiaajB664/+GInT4TQhXtc4HJWbb7KOL69kv5lxo1B6STfmsfVLQCeJcPj O1uw== X-Received: by 10.58.232.226 with SMTP id tr2mr3998836vec.48.1362141248874; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 04:34:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <002f01ce164f$be3e1450$3aba3cf0$@de> From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 13:33:48 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: VHvWbnTB05v90lM677WR5WRO0IU Message-ID: Subject: Re: Trento gig recording and pics To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013a11a2461fbd04d6dc3923 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120376 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 12:34:09 +0000 (UTC) --089e013a11a2461fbd04d6dc3923 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Thinking back on the dark ages before the > internet it amazes me how we just lived on and accepted all that non > communication and snail speed life as normal. > OMG, Dont get me started on that.. Personally I have no doubt that the "speed" at which we are expected to live now, will be our downfall. We are already discovering many cases of "burnout" in the work place than before. I love the communication aspect of the Internet in regards to being able to interact with new people the world over, but that time has become the overall commodity in life is frightening. Needs a new thread, but has anyone seen the UK anti-technology mini series, plays that go under the heading of Black Mirror. VERY VERY inventive and fantastically written, and extremely dark. They handle the question of "where all this technology is taking us", and being British, is NOT a bundle of laughs. Worth a look! Right now I have the good fortune to be living in a wonderful, house overlooking the Fjord, and I make it a point to just sit watching the view for at least 15 minutes imediatly after coming home from work, to shake off the Shooting Schedules, the Budget plans, the Deadlines, the Milestones, and the vast deluge of email... Bring back the Snails!!! MArk -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --089e013a11a2461fbd04d6dc3923 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com><= /span> wrote:
Thinking back on the dark ages before the<= br> internet it amazes me how we just lived on and accepted all that non
communication and snail speed life as normal.

O= MG, Dont get me started on that.. Personally I have no doubt that the "= ;speed" at which we are expected to live now, will be our downfall. We= are already discovering many cases of "burnout" in the work plac= e than before.
I love the communication aspect of the Internet = in regards to being able to interact with new people the world over, but th= at time has become the overall commodity in life is frightening.

Needs a new thread, but has anyone see= n the UK=A0=A0anti-technology mini series, plays that go under the heading = of Black Mirror. VERY VERY inventive and fantastically written, and extreme= ly dark. They handle the question of "where all this technology is tak= ing us", and being British, is NOT a bundle of laughs. Worth a look!

Right= now I have the good fortune to be living in a wonderful, house overlooking= the Fjord, and I make it a point to just sit watching the view for at leas= t 15 minutes imediatly after coming home from work, to shake off the Shooti= ng Schedules, the Budget plans, the Deadlines, the Milestones, and the vast= deluge of email...=A0

Bring back = the Snails!!!

MArk



--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
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--089e013a11a2461fbd04d6dc3923-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 1 13:03:53 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1CF561834C1; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 13:03:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SQn9CMq5hsjY7G0SAQpJZmbRFHNi5knOkE25MZdB+K4=; b=dEjswEFkjuKGW6e6XQOtKYCi7Rq8NmKzOSpGUG/fVNsg1N1IE4+CK8beWSvVoAL4hh V6epj6EDa+4E7+ARPYZYaXN6HHGGnfrtAKf/owoLTXMDv6kkYBB/ifJvnHr6xQC9W92/ A1jL4V462ctYTSTyChkASSz7Tvp5eMj8gP7UbR9jFxhN9ovZYYKRQL2kMQGKoRUQQ8NH 1BkDy4mJCbGLxji8fciuSxhxFt66G5pFi7GDBwzXHwEtumdfHaMdv9FF+MoSjNBtru+S Wal8QWa0FXoA7/z9i6+nWiED9TVfrGVDiykKMN1lthu7fraa6QDowo48O5CP9TF7taa3 Qy5w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.248.11 with SMTP id me11mr3264894vcb.26.1362143032651; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 05:03:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <002f01ce164f$be3e1450$3aba3cf0$@de> Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 14:03:52 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Trento gig recording and pics From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120377 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 13:03:53 +0000 (UTC) Will check out the Black Mirror. I remember about a decade back Nokia published a sociological report looking into the future talking about "the download culture turning into an upload culture" and people starting to live their social lives more and more through network communication and "self branding". These investigators also meant that the role for music is to change quite drastically because, as they wrote, people will become afraid to not stay online and that constant state of alert is tiresome for the mind so listening to music will become a sort of tension-loosening self therapy to simply get some peace of mind without turning off your wifi gadgets. In hindsight we now know that these guys hired by Nokia were spot on. But hanging with teenagers of today, even folks down to fiver year's age, it constantly amazes me how good they are at multitasking - it's like they don't have a problem with a fragmented mind at all. Obviously new socialisation profiles that hasn't yet been looked into by "elders"... It's funny how old-school people look at young people and see that "they are having a problem because they only stare into the computer all day long" while the reality is that the young person is in fact "doing almost everything" that way. Another issue is that there has always been people suffering from psych/soc disorders and these guys are kind of left on their own in the new network world (no built-in safety borders as in the pre networking era). Quite sinister actually. I see a political awareness about this just starting here now. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 1:33 PM, mark francombe wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> Thinking back on the dark ages before the >> internet it amazes me how we just lived on and accepted all that non >> communication and snail speed life as normal. > > > OMG, Dont get me started on that.. Personally I have no doubt that the > "speed" at which we are expected to live now, will be our downfall. We are > already discovering many cases of "burnout" in the work place than before. > I love the communication aspect of the Internet in regards to being able to > interact with new people the world over, but that time has become the > overall commodity in life is frightening. > > Needs a new thread, but has anyone seen the UK anti-technology mini series, > plays that go under the heading of Black Mirror. VERY VERY inventive and > fantastically written, and extremely dark. They handle the question of > "where all this technology is taking us", and being British, is NOT a bundle > of laughs. Worth a look! > > Right now I have the good fortune to be living in a wonderful, house > overlooking the Fjord, and I make it a point to just sit watching the view > for at least 15 minutes imediatly after coming home from work, to shake off > the Shooting Schedules, the Budget plans, the Deadlines, the Milestones, and > the vast deluge of email... > > Bring back the Snails!!! > > MArk > > > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 1 16:11:29 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E396E1834BD; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 16:11:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 142069.22634.bm@omp1007.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1362154289; bh=hR/X8vm1fpsmaFlFiHF4D1TbvaC1eymFfYhav6X572U=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bBfAcGhzz9mIz5ngNHytUjslyaAYBarw1VrmvH/jEtFgPEPGn06/2bPTkQG0xFXuDNXKW4rC/bgbT2/vZqBF232N4ZuGvhb4myvSWsTNGdF8SxwvpcdAuz5kcn5XNR/IWvVFduz+PODkLcFeUCefl4034hn3XRqjc0TETvMr6KM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=503+NhlnOnjDlFyrvIPRZfD22REvANlAGBo3b4jULONthSzR8hkVS6R5R8W07b9Rz1fxcVdS3JNWCG+VyPTR8Gkv+nu0AtrUunsrn2byojvy5Jq7z9OlIUY8+4K1m0HE9JWNhT34Q/u6zhT+FkNjznvDNLI+8I8n+CYvVYri1MQ=; X-YMail-OSG: J4qvhLEVM1lFWumQY4c5JRi_u.koRnLAwbGHP2DMw_7yLHk KKYLIsgvdajnB5L2QxlXtWzQo_dMWcLsD5hKKU5hFXxeNiehZQFIVFmDYRfH 6YTeFGC_xbtrAuDHRHB09OMIO2RIzCQu47j4V.uLiaxKSf70_6g74itLkcHi cfTAhSPBbV5JNJg5SWHgZz.qOAtBpvu83YP.gsNCnFMMQnsB70t86ZGZTBMZ VI6MfBfHrn5QgHZhaxSJ9xm3tjK0nNG7SruJ3vlWiLIPeqDZ.EWf4KQ3I7QN K14JRRzszcwr5EboYVfLglJQ6u4HWYDY75NvcQuvHzleFSxUhbh..5mnSnsm p.0VYbAbWyXUpI1HQILGfntQMYZuaXisp5C2G8mORusr8lxGJfKvJ8msKQCs 82Sl4wBYkJ3bPc1Ct1JgDU5N2E4e0z8yx0s0F5wGssxqI4Gx5.qyAQuqx3aU cL6bUtH194f7ZOguSMf3hBt0.1RXecm4DspmP9t1Eergh.XCDzjKdF9P5S8u 8ch87Wu4tpUYLOyetgOD9yaEXg_oaDa47tbguNTYdfgeag9rrB81J2.qjVWm .1BIHrA8iZ_SC84mKj3.f.9tsNmz3o3WVO85OjC5aoW.YXAzLqKoB6X2dwmb VzRjiVpXJdMVAQTETOHqMFD6I6S.RE3h2up4RMqNaQK7iHnGSfkd1Mqjj1tD c8HCa3qUaM5amTahKxsxYyUKd49KR.3dFqYJyh6ikInSnwkQtmzUl9FTgnh_ Ui.vVFKHcVmHs4Y3qzuZAQku.aJ6HnGdT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,Q2VydGFpYmx5IGJhY2sgYW1lcmljYW4gc3R5bGVzIGxpa2UgZnVuayBoYXZlIHRoYXQgCmJ1dCBjaGVjayBvdXQgYWxzbyAgdGhlIG9sZCByYXcgZGFuY2luZyAiY2hhbmfDvGkiIHN0eWxlIGluIGN1YmEgd2hpY2ggZGF0ZXMgYmFjayB0byB0aGUgMTgwMHMKClRoZSAiZ3VheW8iIG9yIHNjcmFwZXIgaXMgYWx3YXlzIGEgYml0IGJlaGluZCB0aGUgYmVhdCAsdGhhdHMgd2hhdCBtYWtlcyBpdCBzbyBmdW5reQoKSSBhbHNvIGxvdmUgaG93IHRoZSB0cmVzIGd1aXRhciBzdGFydHMgb24gdGhlICIzIGFuZCIgZ2kBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.135.514 Message-ID: <1362154288.35521.YahooMailMobile@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 08:11:28 -0800 (PST) From: Luis Angulo Subject: AW: Re: Re: Rhythm Intensive and Rhythmic Programming (funky african root styles) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Rick Walker Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-795196629-516369556-1362154288=:35521" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120378 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 16:11:29 +0000 (UTC) ---795196629-516369556-1362154288=:35521 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Certaibly back american styles like funk have that =0Abut check out also t= he old raw dancing "chang=FCi" style in cuba which dates back to the 1800s= =0A=0AThe "guayo" or scraper is always a bit behind the beat ,thats what ma= kes it so funky=0A=0AI also love how the tres guitar starts on the "3 and" = giving u an ilusion of starting on the one=0AAnd the percusion always come= s with a fill on the "2 and" =0AIs great that it still exists=0A=0Ahttp://m= .youtube.com/watch?v=3Dj06Kv0MP2dU=0A=0AHeres a documentary of it=0A=0Ahttp= ://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=3Drelmfu&v=3D9sbDW2xFgbQ=0A=0ACheers =0ALuis ---795196629-516369556-1362154288=:35521 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Certaibly back american styles like funk = have that
but check out also the old raw dancing "chang=FCi" style i= n cuba which dates back to the 1800s

The "guayo" or scraper is a= lways a bit behind the beat ,thats what makes it so funky

I also= love how the tres guitar starts on the "3 and" giving u an ilusion of star= ting on the one
And the percusion always comes with a fill on the "2 = and"
Is great that it still exists

http://m.youtube.com/wa= tch?v=3Dj06Kv0MP2dU

Heres a documentary of it

http://= m.youtube.com/watch?feature=3Drelmfu&v=3D9sbDW2xFgbQ

Cheers
Luis
=0A =
=0A
=0A
=0A = =0A =
=0A =0A = From:=0A = =0A mark francombe <markfr= ancombe@gmail.com>;
=0A = =0A To:=0A =0A = Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>; =
=0A =0A = Cc:=0A = =0A LOOPERS DELIGHT = (posting) <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>; =
=0A = =0A Subject:=0A =0A = Re: Re: Rhythm Intensive and Rhythmic Programming =
=0A =0A = Sent:=0A = =0A Tue, Feb 5, 2013 11= :00:52 AM
=0A =0A
=0A =0A = =0A =0A = Now thats what Im talking about!



On Tue, Fe= b 5, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
=0A=0A
On 2/4/2013 10:31 PM, mark francombe wrote:
=0A=0AYou guys are amazing! I have a small request, = Can Rick sometime at his
=0Aleisure pick up one (or two) of his weird et= hnic drum things, and drag
=0Athem across the yard to Bills garage, just= about the same time as Bill
=0Astarts one of his slippy slidey loopy so= los?
=0A
=0Aa vid with both bro's... Nice...
=0A
= =0A
=0AThat can happen, though Bill and I have really busy schedules lat= ely and are not playing
=0Atogether very much these days. =A0We're j= ust doing really different things, musically these
=0Adays but =A0I'= m sure it will happen in the future.
=0A
=0AIn the meantime, =A0go he= re to see the two of us improvising in a live looping duo situation
=0Aa= t a gig where we opened for Argentina's amazing Juana Molina.
=0A=0AThese are full song clips from Bill project, New Delta =A0where we play= music that is originally
=0Ainspired by musics from the Nile , =A0Missi= ssippi , =A0Ganges and Yangtze Deltas.
=0A
=0Awww.yout= ube.com/billwalkersnewdelta
=0A
=0Athanks for the request,= =A0Mark
=0A
=0ARick W= alker
=0A
=0A


<= div>
--
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordo= abkhao.com
=0A=0Atwitter @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user8250= 94
http://www.looop.no=0A
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=0A ---795196629-516369556-1362154288=:35521-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 1 16:11:31 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8994C1834CB; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 16:11:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 832684.11868.bm@omp1004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1362154290; bh=+esu5TqlkhXWGsRcnfhrwR0rzghvboY3GZoUeMiCWSQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tQL2dHHhzKVDsY/bBE6i8Q5WfpNNkulQCESv1L5obdAUlJpHJNUQ8EdYHWFME0HNg+KY526GK0AWeHaOEZdBAoRYblfsAyv5ldtt/6xWduC0u48io999AF5HsIRLVXYLzYnxfwOpwdk4rd4GdOZyQaccUOr5+WQSMLdaalsvIs0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3NQUSWEbDOp3vpL5MJKQipX/UX8qqal50NuLrwD+39vCfVLa3iu93T7Ghlmrjg1sYS0z2bQqzVkw916fpcPPAeJ2xB5m7gk8Lkx1SFtT+vju9Z+nvQgYK3LQiO4Efo0Cp9rr0Cujk92Cq048Ix9PdhyxWk6YTV9DCiLyQRVkWDk=; X-YMail-OSG: t_74GNwVM1lqU2q2liqrKngQRXjvMABSlXcILujNsjH8cSG UHZI0AxtdVt3aooE_QXCtZc6asFnAgckOH4CcDdLx4gcVVGoGxJnt3ZkO5.X 4cxLeOdRz8HcrtEr.XmG8O_kIbxo78sydKJYvlAt57TEJLzndgpvmk35ihxg 3U7QOQY_q.MjbMcwqxyhsRcef0ZwV4CLf.rRW0smjdVwg_yz9r0QxZphlAe3 Nw_rDBnRdyZimfrtqnCLp496NfCI3y30OPjdtgV_UlIGTckpDCeHqQ1QWNSc V1L6rSTxTTM08AqUIirqbO2yUIlWacBjQyfnXvfZT8mkDf8k1ld1ih48IBF_ iuef1f36LeRK5VcW1UcA9czs9BFtPzoVv.gk0IgcDHx9S0O3Lbbb9g9fEnN8 U5lWU6D6au5lW18JfFjd8EuZTkh32M80fqocG8IKcZ.uHQC_ijA5NRmtofiU OPE7RzFWgjSteFtQuxVc_wXPxGN44cO8310QJ0vAASzbrugl02ocyAawcWuL rMM8WMEpLvU1Kqya8OYeS5XVY1K.hQakkVMtfskUy6.wL1600qrK0tHKu_SW sQbO14XqaCnyXJ.9oY6rhTnes0HoEpurtzmcFlKJDNNk80.pZ8391cYiVCxV yQvLhPxqD8pwiyNZE0ESikSsgTVP0gos4kEnhkBLkean5M75j95Ic_zbpHz. kWllsqEujVcChtDNDqzDjIIyq8ex0uqFW4CkgAwImBVDGfb04Db1zSkaH1YB F2o2b2S3f7EIvPBpmXJASM_8c74XBOqqz X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,Q2VydGFpYmx5IGJhY2sgYW1lcmljYW4gc3R5bGVzIGxpa2UgZnVuayBoYXZlIHRoYXQgCmJ1dCBjaGVjayBvdXQgYWxzbyAgdGhlIG9sZCByYXcgZGFuY2luZyAiY2hhbmfDvGkiIHN0eWxlIGluIGN1YmEgd2hpY2ggZGF0ZXMgYmFjayB0byB0aGUgMTgwMHMKClRoZSAiZ3VheW8iIG9yIHNjcmFwZXIgaXMgYWx3YXlzIGEgYml0IGJlaGluZCB0aGUgYmVhdCAsdGhhdHMgd2hhdCBtYWtlcyBpdCBzbyBmdW5reQoKSSBhbHNvIGxvdmUgaG93IHRoZSB0cmVzIGd1aXRhciBzdGFydHMgb24gdGhlICIzIGFuZCIgZ2kBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.135.514 Message-ID: <1362154290.98181.YahooMailMobile@web120704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 08:11:30 -0800 (PST) From: Luis Angulo Subject: AW: Re: Re: Rhythm Intensive and Rhythmic Programming (funky african root styles) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Rick Walker Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="1167350687-1274185530-1362154290=:98181" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120379 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 16:11:31 +0000 (UTC) --1167350687-1274185530-1362154290=:98181 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Certaibly back american styles like funk have that =0Abut check out also t= he old raw dancing "chang=FCi" style in cuba which dates back to the 1800s= =0A=0AThe "guayo" or scraper is always a bit behind the beat ,thats what ma= kes it so funky=0A=0AI also love how the tres guitar starts on the "3 and" = giving u an ilusion of starting on the one=0AAnd the percusion always come= s with a fill on the "2 and" =0AIs great that it still exists=0A=0Ahttp://m= .youtube.com/watch?v=3Dj06Kv0MP2dU=0A=0AHeres a documentary of it=0A=0Ahttp= ://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=3Drelmfu&v=3D9sbDW2xFgbQ=0A=0ACheers =0ALuis --1167350687-1274185530-1362154290=:98181 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Certaibly back american styles like funk = have that
but check out also the old raw dancing "chang=FCi" style i= n cuba which dates back to the 1800s

The "guayo" or scraper is a= lways a bit behind the beat ,thats what makes it so funky

I also= love how the tres guitar starts on the "3 and" giving u an ilusion of star= ting on the one
And the percusion always comes with a fill on the "2 = and"
Is great that it still exists

http://m.youtube.com/wa= tch?v=3Dj06Kv0MP2dU

Heres a documentary of it

http://= m.youtube.com/watch?feature=3Drelmfu&v=3D9sbDW2xFgbQ

Cheers
Luis
=0A =
=0A
=0A
=0A = =0A =
=0A =0A = From:=0A = =0A mark francombe <markfr= ancombe@gmail.com>;
=0A = =0A To:=0A =0A = Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>; =
=0A =0A = Cc:=0A = =0A LOOPERS DELIGHT = (posting) <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>; =
=0A = =0A Subject:=0A =0A = Re: Re: Rhythm Intensive and Rhythmic Programming =
=0A =0A = Sent:=0A = =0A Tue, Feb 5, 2013 11= :00:52 AM
=0A =0A
=0A =0A = =0A =0A = Now thats what Im talking about!



On Tue, Fe= b 5, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
=0A=0A
On 2/4/2013 10:31 PM, mark francombe wrote:
=0A=0AYou guys are amazing! I have a small request, = Can Rick sometime at his
=0Aleisure pick up one (or two) of his weird et= hnic drum things, and drag
=0Athem across the yard to Bills garage, just= about the same time as Bill
=0Astarts one of his slippy slidey loopy so= los?
=0A
=0Aa vid with both bro's... Nice...
=0A
= =0A
=0AThat can happen, though Bill and I have really busy schedules lat= ely and are not playing
=0Atogether very much these days. =A0We're j= ust doing really different things, musically these
=0Adays but =A0I'= m sure it will happen in the future.
=0A
=0AIn the meantime, =A0go he= re to see the two of us improvising in a live looping duo situation
=0Aa= t a gig where we opened for Argentina's amazing Juana Molina.
=0A=0AThese are full song clips from Bill project, New Delta =A0where we play= music that is originally
=0Ainspired by musics from the Nile , =A0Missi= ssippi , =A0Ganges and Yangtze Deltas.
=0A
=0Awww.yout= ube.com/billwalkersnewdelta
=0A
=0Athanks for the request,= =A0Mark
=0A
=0ARick W= alker
=0A
=0A


<= div>
--
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordo= abkhao.com
=0A=0Atwitter @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user8250= 94
http://www.looop.no=0A
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=0A= =0A --1167350687-1274185530-1362154290=:98181-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 1 17:02:39 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C96991834C1; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 17:02:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1581 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 17:02:39 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=dIr+A5lb c=1 sm=1 a=krcaztEbsAMFS0AlBajacg==:17 a=e68dB4FrWygA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=4asjpw__jvEA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=ZzHVgXXf-z0A:10 a=gB28bEPOAAAA:8 a=H8xbggYdXIOp1HC0ihYA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=FJ0m9Xq-eki8CNigc-4A:9 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 a=_2yleDOoukWIy3xn:21 a=BcwT0Smst7MCtTIIGOhIgQ==:117 Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 11:29:08 -0500 (EST) From: =?UTF8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: loopers-delight Message-ID: <38f63cbd.51956f.13d26c920a1.Webtop.47@charter.net> Subject: RE: Trento gig recording and pics MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_19552284_612392025.1362155348107" User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 47 X-Originating-IP: [63.248.125.96] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120380 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 17:02:39 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_19552284_612392025.1362155348107 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Mark! That was very fine. Was your baritone the one you put the Multi-bender on? I am listening right now - very cool stuff. As others have remarked, I am somewhat reminded of Soviet France. Thanks for sharing. Ted On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 1:29 PM, mark francombe wrote: IM not FBing this cos there too many people to ask if its OK (there are whispers of an edit, a remix and a release ha ha) http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/trento-gig-report/ ------=_Part_19552284_612392025.1362155348107 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Mark!

That was very fine.
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Was your baritone the one you put the = Multi-bender on?

I am listening right now - very cool stuff.

As others have remarked, I am so= mewhat reminded of Soviet France.

Thanks for sharing.

Ted

<= DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT">On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 1:29 PM, mark francom= be wrote:
 IM not FBing this cos there too many people to ask = if its OK (there are whispers of an edit, a remix and a release ha ha)

------=_Part_19552284_612392025.1362155348107-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 1 18:31:36 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 041A21834C1; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 18:31:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=bVb+plVMIXfBEr897KlWzJoB0k7G0IbE889JuufPsWg=; b=zAuZORq4OvZqb9d6G/dX+cdMep8yBzq6rKjt6/p12IV1iGFt5ptjbH9crG6YubrheP ffDoypF8UZXgET3QLXDlWuTzrjZg65jkPQ2JwF3+ZSDQr+hdKKpWCHbtpweJT4FqrLTC 86ut+kJ4+holTo3a4DLGKGltF3lbhRhRS2uXc/XtyCT6j4gB+M+7bKJzp8rOqOH0oMAU YxXxhX97OpJqedeS6fOnCYeriy9HvTsQm7PIZ2zuD1/sUKVB1dZm30jZxZuT/nAjg6ji r4w7JPiJuaNCiZKQk9NrMHGkPyft4fFVexFN7jFgjdy4Fd0Wl/Mxam0X3y4m5I9qJOC3 B4kQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.229.78.25 with SMTP id i25mr4012979qck.153.1362162695543; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 10:31:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 13:31:35 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Gig spam (Toronto) - Synesthesia II From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <8VNi0.A.ieG.HQPMRB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120381 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 18:31:35 +0000 (UTC) In case anyone is lurking from Toronto, I'll be playing my meta-trombone ( http://goo.gl/Q9tWz ) at this concert. I don't think anyone else is livelooping, but some works are for instrumentalists with electronics, if that's also your thing. Drop me a line if your coming, Sylvain Synesthesia Series Saturday March 2, 2013 FAWN Presents Synesthesia II Electroacoustic music by emerging Canadian composers with situational light installations by Canadian artist Dylin North Premieres by Patrick McGraw, Amanda Lowry, and Sylvain Poitras. Additional music by Adam Scime, Michael Vincent, Monica Pearce, Anastasya Koshkin, Patrick Power, and Jessica Nielsen. Performances by Calvin Cheng, Sarah Gates, Patrick Power, Jelena Ciric, Evan Cartwright, Sylvain Poitras, and Adam Scime. Reception to follow with music by DJ/composer Liam Crockard. Doors at 8:15pm. Concert at 9pm. P.W.Y.C @ Cinecycle - 401 Richmond St W. Coach House Access from the lane-way behind 129 Spadina Ave. Space is limited. Come early! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 1 19:05:58 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A4A21834B6; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 19:05:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <38f63cbd.51956f.13d26c920a1.Webtop.47@charter.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Trento gig recording and pics In-Reply-To: <38f63cbd.51956f.13d26c920a1.Webtop.47@charter.net> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: michael klobuchar X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CFE4C6EFCB0B53_684_2DF40_webmailstg-m02.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37510-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CFE4C6EFBCC30D-684-DA59@webmailstg-m02.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [151.201.9.14] Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 14:05:57 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20121107; t=1362164757; bh=3SPWwZMytIjLkk3HqHogC3Z1gy7Uzlo6964ppNXojhw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nzpsnOmfMy22sDmP9DQD/kFqYv4sLqwdXuioiTLaPuyZL6KMOj02mUBTeLMWiw4BU cUe0vbyIE1bEBRjHnGCdVa/sT1GDvz3k6GTx8+/+VGz+RrPQ1QGzdhEKNfnTJDHm+v bSiVaGXZF1HOk7ujhY+i6rgwhoe6Iu5kCrtckjUE= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:174503872:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338a5130fc156e69 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120382 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 19:05:58 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CFE4C6EFCB0B53_684_2DF40_webmailstg-m02.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" a wonderful gig!.....please keep us updated about other mixes.....them ital= ians!!!!! =20 ----------MB_8CFE4C6EFCB0B53_684_2DF40_webmailstg-m02.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" a wonderful gig!.....please keep us= updated about other mixes.....them italians!!!!!



----------MB_8CFE4C6EFCB0B53_684_2DF40_webmailstg-m02.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 1 22:47:32 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57C1B1834B2; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 22:47:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 22:47:32 UTC X-EIP: [L4E3zAAc8dQzko2/2sohC50RLF8jpoXP] X-Originating-Email: [anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_d0f6c8e8-0ec7-4d99-8eac-7432d55e822d_" From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: sONIC mETAmORPHOS ("new" looping track) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 22:42:31 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2013 22:42:31.0708 (UTC) FILETIME=[0F5BEDC0:01CE16CE] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120383 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 22:47:32 +0000 (UTC) --_d0f6c8e8-0ec7-4d99-8eac-7432d55e822d_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok recorded in october put i haven't had time to post it until now..Again g= uitar=2C an old Valco amp and the Elektron Octatrack is used as a looper=2C= sampler and sounf mangler...3 track are set to looping (pickup track) 4 tr= ack are playing the loop tracks as "flex" machines so i can pitch and rate = shift=2C trigger on sequencer=2C play and record chromatically.. and much m= ore.. one track is a mangled drum loop..One of the flex tracks are set up t= o mimic Bill Walkers EDP/LP1 replace peculating sound.. this is a on long i= mprovisation.. one take all "live" ..=20 >>> https://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/sonic-metamorphos = --_d0f6c8e8-0ec7-4d99-8eac-7432d55e822d_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ok recorded in october put i haven't had time to post it until now..
Ag= ain guitar=2C an old Valco amp and the Elektron Octatrack is used as a loop= er=2C sampler and sounf mangler...
3 track are set to looping (pi= ckup track) 4 track are playing the loop tracks as "flex" machines so i can= pitch and rate shift=2C trigger on sequencer=2C play and record chromatica= lly.. and much more.. one track is a mangled drum loop..
One of t= he flex tracks are set up to mimic Bill Walkers EDP/LP1 replace peculating = sound.. this is a on long improvisation.. one take all "live" .. =3B

>=3B>=3B>=3B https://soundcloud.com/anders-ber= gdahl/sonic-metamorphos
= --_d0f6c8e8-0ec7-4d99-8eac-7432d55e822d_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 2 11:52:52 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1E471834CF; Sat, 2 Mar 2013 11:52:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <5131E80C.7050000@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2013 06:52:44 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130216 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #830 for February 28, 2013. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-d6BwC.A.RcF.UgeMRB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120384 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 11:52:52 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2013/130228.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #830 February 28, 2013. WDIY Playlist: http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels?playlist_date=02-28-2013 RECAP: On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Joint Intelligence Committee. The Featured CD at Midnight was "The Book of Roach" on Bogus Focus Records.http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2013/focus.html#feb PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Mark Jenkins Baroque & Roll EX1GENE (AMP) VA [Ditto] Adagio for a Burning Doomsday and Brimstonr (Sound for Good) Robert Schroeder Matter Decay Ferro OXID (Spheric) Matt Borghi and Precipice Convocation (Slobor Media) Michal Teager Kamil Kowalczyk Nebula II Nova (Prototyp Produktions) Max Corbacho Surface Thought The Ocean Inside (Ad21) Max Corbacho Web of Eyes The Ocean Inside (Ad21) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== JIC Helixer The Book of Roach(Bogus Focus) JIC Crunchy Nut The Book of Roach(Bogus Focus) Pornflakes JIC E Flat Black Flat The Book of Roach(Bogus Focus) JIC Turtle Haze The Book of Roach(Bogus Focus) JIC Gem B The Book of Roach(Bogus Focus) JIC Helioseismology The Book of Roach(Bogus Focus) JIC Your Weed Is Queen The Book of Roach(Bogus Focus) JIC A Flat Float The Book of Roach(Bogus Focus) JIC Drizzolve The Book of Roach(Bogus Focus) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on Steve Roach. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Soul Tones" on Timeroom Editions.http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2013/focus.html#mar WDIY Announcement: http://wdiy.org/post/next-galactic-travels-2013-03-07 Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST/GMT-5 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 2 15:32:35 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4B2C1834D3; Sat, 2 Mar 2013 15:32:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <51321B8E.3050703@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2013 10:32:30 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130216 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Top 20 Report for February, 2013. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120385 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 15:32:35 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2013/top20-02feb.html WDIY 88.1 FM "Galactic Travels" Top 20 for February, 2013. Shows #827 to #830; 7-February-2013 to 28-February-2013 Reported in non-ranked, alphanumeric order. Compiled by Bill Fox The Special Focus for February was Joint Intelligence Committee. http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2013/focus.html#feb ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL ======================================================================== Arcane - A Tale of Unease - Paul Lawler Music Broken Harbour - The Geometry of Shadows - Relaxed Machinery Bryon Carrigan - Windows - Peonies Chuck van Zyl - Cenotaph - Synkronos Dirk Serries - Microphonics XXI-XXV - Tonefloat JIC - Excession - Bogus Focus JIC - Grow - Bogus Focus JIC - In Session - Bogus Focus JIC - The Book of Roach- Bogus Focus Kamil Kowalczyk - Nova - Prototyp Produktions Mark Jenkins - EX1GENE - AMP Matt Borghi and Michal Teager - Convocation - Slobor Media Max Corbacho - The Ocean Inside - Ad21 Motionfield - A Sort of Homecoming - Autoload Paul Harryn - Changing Seasons - none Paul Lawler and Paul Nagle - Jam Sessions Vol. 1 - Paul Lawler Music Premonition Factory - The Theory of Nothing - none Robert Schroeder - Ferro OXID - Spheric Steve Roach - Soul Tones - Timeroom Editions Various Artists - Doomsday and Brimstone - Sound for Good Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST/GMT-5 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 2 19:07:42 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D6411834CF; Sat, 2 Mar 2013 19:07:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2060 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sat, 02 Mar 2013 19:07:42 UTC From: patrick dunn Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_B6113A39-A330-4F33-81ED-D628530B962A" Subject: Live looping, 5 string viola + ableton Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 18:33:13 +0000 Message-Id: <734DB89E-65EB-4313-A34E-440F118F7072@networked-learning.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Resent-Message-ID: <0r5RdC.A.tS.-3kMRB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120386 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 19:07:42 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_B6113A39-A330-4F33-81ED-D628530B962A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi all - a piece with various forms of loops, sound effects etc. https://vimeo.com/60900434 Comments/feedback very welcome. Thanks! Patrick --Apple-Mail=_B6113A39-A330-4F33-81ED-D628530B962A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hi all - a piece with various forms of loops, sound effects etc.


Comments/feedback very welcome.

Thanks!

Patrick
--Apple-Mail=_B6113A39-A330-4F33-81ED-D628530B962A-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 2 20:23:41 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FC271834D4; Sat, 2 Mar 2013 20:23:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=n2bfuXt5jqQx2eXMCnR9+JqyeE0pNPRQurTTCVzBoWU=; b=ItRhlJQRHSyR25zmCFV++vx+2ZYDoCNFeyQotm1EcHVGNJ2WRypy9W55eAG7bwP6Tb UCgR2SqqpzDFBL41cEqMPOYNI+X2L11sRbmZt5xL7tnl0hVAsCi275QsZ56cx1yw6h+E of3eFOHYy2q7blnQJB5QRBYyQTCojWeKCF5XGWju+m/uMtokSsO+0ShRjzCXslvdvORN W6zjo4KC5+R8LNYLU5GzxWMLWWqA7gPvdI5Af6JtpIx2awlR0mSiJ0GF4qDBlTuwuSk6 cClR+acybkgIbXBcvl6lKDwNw/1JCZC7nqmyXD40eWueWu+9wO8roncAtDUT2VYVMkKG rRuQ== X-Received: by 10.58.28.169 with SMTP id c9mr5825960veh.5.1362255820202; Sat, 02 Mar 2013 12:23:40 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <734DB89E-65EB-4313-A34E-440F118F7072@networked-learning.com> References: <734DB89E-65EB-4313-A34E-440F118F7072@networked-learning.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 21:23:20 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: YpPqh51wioZ5J6hN8EY5TKU5O8Q Message-ID: Subject: Re: Live looping, 5 string viola + ableton To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6da95a41d5f604d6f6e61c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120387 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 20:23:41 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b6da95a41d5f604d6f6e61c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Very nice Patrick! On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 7:33 PM, patrick dunn wrote: > Hi all - a piece with various forms of loops, sound effects etc. > > https://vimeo.com/60900434 > > Comments/feedback very welcome. > > Thanks! > > Patrick > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b6da95a41d5f604d6f6e61c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Very nice Patrick!

On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 7:33 PM, patrick dunn <patrick@networked-learning.com> wrote:
Hi all -= a piece with various forms of loops, sound effects etc.

https://vimeo.com/6= 0900434

Comments/feedback very welcome.
Thanks!

Patrick



--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.c= om/photos/24478662@N00/
 --047d7b6da95a41d5f604d6f6e61c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 2 22:34:49 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5E251834CD; Sat, 2 Mar 2013 22:34:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 23:34:27 +0100 (CET) From: emmanuel.reveneau@free.fr To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <1988349551.7395325.1362263667600.JavaMail.root@zimbra67-e11.priv.proxad.net> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Live looping, 5 string viola + ableton MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Originating-IP: [86.201.73.17] X-Mailer: Zimbra 7.2.0-GA2598 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/7.2.0-GA2598) X-Authenticated-User: emmanuel.reveneau@free.fr Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120388 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 22:34:49 +0000 (UTC) Very cool work, and I love too "Walzer incerta populare"and the balance bet= ween solo instrument and textures. ----- Mail original ----- De: "mark francombe" =C3=80: "loopers-delight" Envoy=C3=A9: Samedi 2 Mars 2013 21:23:20 Objet: Re: Live looping, 5 string viola + ableton Very nice Patrick!=20 On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 7:33 PM, patrick dunn < patrick@networked-learning.c= om > wrote:=20 Hi all - a piece with various forms of loops, sound effects etc.=20 https://vimeo.com/60900434=20 Comments/feedback very welcome.=20 Thanks!=20 Patrick=20 --=20 Mark Francombe=20 www.markfrancombe.com=20 www.ordoabkhao.com=20 http://vimeo.com/user825094=20 http://www.looop.no=20 twitter @markfrancombe=20 http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 3 02:55:31 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0DA901834CC; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 02:55:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 540 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sun, 03 Mar 2013 02:55:30 UTC Message-ID: <5132B982.7000000@theambientping.com> Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2013 21:46:26 -0500 From: PiNG Reply-To: ping@theambientping.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ambient@hyperreal" , Dark Seeds , Drone Deep Chill , Loopers Delight , The Ambient Way Subject: 03.05.13 > The PiNG presents Anti-Gravity Janitors + Northumbria + Chromosphere + General Chaos Visuals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A02020A.5132B985.006D,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 Resent-Message-ID: <_l7IDD.A.fNE.iurMRB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120389 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 02:55:31 +0000 (UTC) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .03.05.13 THE AMBiENT PiNG presents ANTI-GRAVITY JANITORS + NORTHUMBRIA + CHROMOSPHERE + GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS @ Supermarket . 268 Augusta Ave . 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 3 20:25:51 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D13771834CC; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 20:25:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CLhtiuvPG2R3tl7+/rn+5LWitVBDXWP38Fcn5NtwZzM=; b=YNFipflG2jO+Ory70OyHCbM0W4C+2iHCBYRmjpE2PULOEL0jjVY2O1o+72QFldqivy 9qPGhPNg67g8Ur0Gi9uYyMDa+2vKbFd1dNol0eptVGaWuZUHA038KXpwwHtx1QPRlXFx WXGAGDPGTn1adyxoqB1AIhyUJHZdH9TR2cM0YY/d/LuOM0hURQiALlZzNPxgBApKn0JW P8RFcF8AbUEK9qA4N87xLa1Xl/M4D3GFs6PI+BsqY4F2BpX8avaEtvRNqU08GFrEii/Z d51kdHJF9fnylvBbXRepy+cIN1bbblcby2t8WARiPxLK+ts/ZGq510r5B8reuFSlieRi B6IQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.14.179.5 with SMTP id g5mr51481377eem.41.1362342350313; Sun, 03 Mar 2013 12:25:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1988349551.7395325.1362263667600.JavaMail.root@zimbra67-e11.priv.proxad.net> References: <1988349551.7395325.1362263667600.JavaMail.root@zimbra67-e11.priv.proxad.net> Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 15:25:50 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Live looping, 5 string viola + ableton From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b603fe6da7e8104d70b0b7a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120390 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 20:25:51 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b603fe6da7e8104d70b0b7a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Patrick very rich and lovely work and to me effective looping. Added efx of waves are cool and the editing on the opening passages was nice. I think you are new to Loopers-Delight but I may be wrong. If new welcome to LD. I'm another looping fiddler among few other instruments though more of a hack :) Jim Goodin On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 5:34 PM, wrote: > Very cool work, and I love too "Walzer incerta populare"and the balance > between solo instrument and textures. > > ----- Mail original ----- > De: "mark francombe" > =C0: "loopers-delight" > Envoy=E9: Samedi 2 Mars 2013 21:23:20 > Objet: Re: Live looping, 5 string viola + ableton > > > Very nice Patrick! > > > > On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 7:33 PM, patrick dunn < > patrick@networked-learning.com > wrote: > > > > Hi all - a piece with various forms of loops, sound effects etc. > > > https://vimeo.com/60900434 > > > > Comments/feedback very welcome. > > > Thanks! > > > Patrick > > > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ > > --=20 --=20 *jimgoodin.com* - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive minimalism' *The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music* - 'Organically inspired New Music' *From Brooklyn To Glindran *, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from this CD will benefit *JDRF International * *Tips Across the Waters *, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware. --047d7b603fe6da7e8104d70b0b7a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Patrick very rich and lovely work and to me effective looping. =A0Added efx= of waves are cool and the editing on the opening passages was nice. =A0I t= hink you are new to Loopers-Delight but I may be wrong. =A0If new welcome t= o LD.

I'm another looping fiddler among few other instruments = though more of a hack :)

Jim Goodin

=
On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 5:34 PM, <emman= uel.reveneau@free.fr> wrote:
Very cool work, and I love too "Walzer = incerta populare"and the balance between solo instrument and textures.=

----- Mail original -----
De: "mark francombe" <mark@markfrancombe.com>
=C0: "loopers-delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Envoy=E9: Samedi 2 Mars 2013 21:23:20
Objet: Re: Live looping, 5 string viola + ableton


Very nice Patrick!



On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 7:33 PM, patrick dunn < patrick@networked-learning.com > wrote:



Hi all - a piece with various forms of loops, sound effects etc.


https://vimeo.com/= 60900434



Comments/feedback very welcome.


Thanks!


Patrick



--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancomb= e.com
www.ordoabkhao.com<= /a>
http://vimeo.com/= user825094
http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe
ht= tp://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/




--
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j= imgoodin.com - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repet= itive minimalism'
=A0
The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music=A0- 'Org= anically inspired New Music'
=A0
From Brooklyn To Gl= indran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter = Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF International

Tips Across the Waters, a= new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.
--047d7b603fe6da7e8104d70b0b7a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 3 21:00:24 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF7511834CB; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 21:00:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=5roDmrRxeGT3RANIuP+Mw4RK5wqb6x/wXPTqL43o58E=; b=PqAxRH/O4xOReTTiYC9eiIMn/Ev1Bm2IqCK64B5VdTWYP1gZ+ia/olrabHATdKP1q/ V7EMXDE/7wmUVnzN98+erdsOR7Nq2aBfPvpqIKMh2/SYTGjWsCPloTA3jVlbHYUC/VSa 4yf3SlcigQWFEkT5+UZukYNbTsJVqDDq5BaLD9PEXhp4bSNy+MtfQtsUiClWdolueAk6 qGH9G6PXCpKLvHAhYswxKcDgyJYjW+0ouaAGLEOCQfa8ptgE6d1uB9UXCE+yqc9w+XSf uMSsOR0I10Wxbg25rqvoo5AobLjZuVNcjCUIYlcLrXW0xNz4j3/cwdmu/X95iHU4iIV4 Sl5g== X-Received: by 10.52.67.3 with SMTP id j3mr5920590vdt.108.1362344424019; Sun, 03 Mar 2013 13:00:24 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <511D554C.8070906@tiscali.co.uk> References: <511BE530.70109@tiscali.co.uk> <511D554C.8070906@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 22:00:03 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Hf-DFqV1DOgaZHmLYQi8-GdQcjI Message-ID: Subject: Re: Using the standard EDP pedal with 2 EDPs To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307cfbd674d06304d70b8791 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120391 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 21:00:24 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307cfbd674d06304d70b8791 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Back on this thread... Needless to say, I didnt dive into the world of stereo EDPisms at my last gig. This is because I was stupidly forgetting one thing. To operate stereo EDPs one must have the control source numbers set to the same number. Now this is annoying, but understandable, seeing as thats why it works DOH! But I suppose I was really just looking for a way to operate both EDPs simultaneously, rather than STEREO. In actual fact, I run both my EDPs from a Aux Send, and its mono, so there no real reason to do it, except that I really want to investigate using the same loop on both and miving one out of synch by an 8th,and putting it back in and those sort of tricks... Is there a way to do this? (remembering that IM not in a position to buy anything right now (we=B4ve gone back to non-organic milk right now.. yes things are that bad...)) So quips like, go and buy a Gord=EDus, will only result in a virtual bunch of fives in the boat race... (my non UK friends can request a translation of the cockney, but IM sure the point is) Anyway, a long way of saying, *How can I temporarily operate both EDPs as if they are stereo?*... Why couldnt I just have written that? M On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 10:21 PM, andy butler wrote= : > > > mark francombe wrote: > > >> This depends on the ControlSource param. >> > > Damn!! I thought that parameter stood for ControlChange messages and Not= e >> messages, that you could use both via midi!! >> > > Well yes, you're right, > it affects the response to incoming midi (Note or Ctr) > and also the midi which is output when the button is triggered > (either by midi, or front panel or footswitch > > > > > >> you mean... It depends on whether the control signal is passed on to the >> second unit? >> > > so they can only talk to each other if EDP generates the midi type > that EDP2 is listening for. > > > > > >> Well usually yes... but I like the idea that I have a pedal that operate= s >> both simultaneously, Im imagining recording 2 things seperately (using >> front panel, or iPad) with 2 different lengths, then doing Quantised Sub >> into that, with the pedal, will record that chunk to both, but presumabl= y >> will go out of synch by an 8th every time... nice... If Im not mistaken? >> > > iirc the response of EDP2 can be a bit unpredictable in this context. > > May not do the 8th Quant thing properly. > > I didn't track down exactly why yet.....however once it starts working > it's possible to have a polyrhythmic sync and do 8th rep on it. > > > > > What I like to do is to have Quant =3D Cycle, Insert=3DSUS > Record a short one beat loop with the EDPs in stereo setup. > > Then each "insert" adds a beat. > ..and hitting Insert on the edp2 front panel just once makes things > interesting. > > > > > > >> I am assured there will be a long soundcheck... thank the lord for that! >> If there is one... >> > > good luck > > andy > > --=20 *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --20cf307cfbd674d06304d70b8791 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Back on this thread... Needless to say, I didnt dive into = the world of stereo EDPisms at my last gig. This is because I was stupidly = forgetting one thing.
To operate stereo EDPs one must have the co= ntrol source numbers set to the same number.
Now this is annoying, but understandable, seeing as thats why it= works DOH! But I suppose I was really just looking for a way to operate bo= th EDPs simultaneously, rather than STEREO. In actual fact, I run both my E= DPs from a Aux Send, and its mono, so there no real reason to do it, except= that I really want to investigate using the same loop on both and miving o= ne out of synch by an 8th,and putting it back in and those sort of tricks..= .

Is there a way to do this? (remembering tha= t IM not in a position to buy anything right now (we=B4ve gone back to non-= organic milk right now.. yes things are that bad...)) So quips like, go and= buy a Gord=EDus, will only result in a virtual bunch of fives in the boat = race... (my non UK friends can request a translation of the cockney, but IM= sure the point is)

Anyway, a long way of saying, How can I temporarily operate both EDPs as if they are stereo?... Why couldnt I just have written that?

M


On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 10:21 PM, andy butler = <akbutler@ti= scali.co.uk> wrote:


mark francombe wrote:


=A0 =A0 This depends on the ControlSource param.

Damn!! I thought that parameter stood for ControlChange messages and Note m= essages, that you could use both via midi!!

Well yes, you're right,
it affects the response to incoming midi (Note or Ctr)
and also the midi which is output when the button is triggered
(either by midi, or front panel or footswitch





you mean... It depends on whether the control signal is passed on to the se= cond unit?

so they can only talk to each other if EDP generates the midi type
that EDP2 is listening for.





Well usually yes... but I like the idea that I have a pedal that operates b= oth simultaneously, Im imagining recording 2 things seperately (using front= panel, or iPad) with 2 different lengths, then doing Quantised Sub into th= at, with the pedal, will record that chunk to both, but presumably will go = out of synch by an 8th every time... nice... If Im not mistaken?

iirc the response of EDP2 can be a bit unpredictable in this context.

May not do the 8th Quant thing properly.

I didn't track down exactly why yet.....however once it starts working<= br> it's possible to have a polyrhythmic sync and do 8th rep on it.




What I like to do is to have Quant =3D Cycle, Insert=3DSUS
Record a short one beat loop with the EDPs in stereo setup.

Then each "insert" adds a beat.
..and hitting Insert on the edp2 front panel just once =A0makes things inte= resting.






I am assured there will be a long soundcheck... thank the lord for that! If= there is one...

good luck

andy




-- Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
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--20cf307cfbd674d06304d70b8791-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 3 21:43:06 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 866F61834CF; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 21:43:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 834192396/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.181.169/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.181.169 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMBAI3DM1FV0rWp/2dsb2JhbAANOMJKgRSDEwEBBDhAEQshFg8JAwIBAgFFHAEXvGSSIo8kFoMqA5wqjhCBaSQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,775,1355097600"; d="scan'208";a="834192396" Message-ID: <5133C3E1.2000102@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2013 21:42:57 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Using the standard EDP pedal with 2 EDPs References: <511BE530.70109@tiscali.co.uk> <511D554C.8070906@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120392 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 21:43:06 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: >*How can I temporarily operate both EDPs > as if they are stereo?*... Why couldnt I just have written that? Either midi routing, or param changes. If there was an easy hardware free solution to that I would have done it. My 2 EDP technique relies on having identical midi control on both, then reaching over to the slave to accomplish the de-synch effects. (obviously a regular footcontroller on the slave does the same thing...mostly) Putting edp2 out of synch by 8th....not easy. MuteMode=Sta is probably the best. I *still* say use one beat cycles and add an extra cycle by hitting Insert on the slave. InsertMode = SUS Quant=CYC andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 3 21:56:38 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC5551834B8; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 21:56:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nCorMtwThMLSztY8QLy2PeZNIZGQk9DjiJF652EhwJs=; b=evUqb/yoX7czYWESM3aP9H+nqmV2wLW7Bga0Jd5Fl5z+WaWLaELyFK6EOOheMmEuum HaYOggWGkptCNuxnBVCdj+RVbGL2xwIeyqlbzOKP4lXB9JJczDvq7EzPFD5c2Op+xwAZ NxAzJjy9GSvUWjPa2o1ekKRysf+1wwwP4Bq9Pd8bVJS5hlQy20B2kGStR1zbqGwqmrDd aZ5VOSiICxPs/AbsSgYDEd2/axdtUiCGTThMgojgzrpN0SGU5AUh8AWqu+oW4N6kNh84 RBjDCOYLAnaRzUi+QVXflt4+NOtEpinQCInWQ3hLCXjCgATferu0aP8srVTOOBCghw1Y MC2g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.151.5 with SMTP id a5mr6842202vcw.22.1362347798021; Sun, 03 Mar 2013 13:56:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <511BE530.70109@tiscali.co.uk> <511D554C.8070906@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 22:56:37 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Using the standard EDP pedal with 2 EDPs From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120393 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 21:56:38 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 10:00 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Anyway, a long way of saying, How can I temporarily operate both EDPs as if > they are stereo?... It was a while since last I laid finger on a EDP button, but logically thinking, why can't you set up a couple of programs in the two EDPS? When sending a Program Change number command both EDPs will load the corresponding program and if those are the same in both machines they will work as a trusty stereo pair but if the two programs are different in any aspect (typically the 8th value in order to do poly beep stuff) they will work as "two guys in the band". Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 3 22:12:49 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D94B01834D1; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 22:12:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=v0J/TpvHd6lEKzewvOPNdGEGvvO8cXPdydCl/t7Tg3E=; b=Hc12HtzQ/gvcXIeb+5mpIH/wq7CMVASP6uCTGxJaUt2ENe1I5OvybSDf8eubQrHxsr WQUHz0dW4GdUoIplRzl/wG+3FjpOf+YLZurAploRE/UFrq1nBrVgWMMPgES1DNXz9x1g Gwgdnjvyg78oXrOCeA3kAEje0g45kvQLaEQ3/KRaaRnhLdPeBhI8a/EkjlsRrsvvdfVA DdCO/NugUCk+9xH+Mf+ekeeGfGFgD91FSoEbcoYoa8R+XUYm6A2DzpflE/9Vml6kZguu 89v6LpICDUJiC4svO/ZJY6lNNaYlIOBmPzMj/U7jGnQ3xRpKghCFZP0Q4KOZ1qAKfGDy Rqlw== X-Received: by 10.52.70.228 with SMTP id p4mr5807402vdu.89.1362348769443; Sun, 03 Mar 2013 14:12:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <5133C3E1.2000102@tiscali.co.uk> References: <511BE530.70109@tiscali.co.uk> <511D554C.8070906@tiscali.co.uk> <5133C3E1.2000102@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 23:12:29 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: rn017WTmCSIGmtQSF-mas_AQ2T0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Using the standard EDP pedal with 2 EDPs To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f335276bb2f04d70c8a26 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120394 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 22:12:49 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307f335276bb2f04d70c8a26 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 10:42 PM, andy butler wrote: > I *still* say use one beat cycles and add an extra cycle by > hitting Insert on the slave. > InsertMode = SUS > Quant=CYC > Yeah I just tried that, it is indeed, fun. but that Damn Insert = SUS, turns everything into a SUS.. (if im not mistaken) so suddenly I have to hold my foot on Multiply, instead of my usual triple click for instant mult.. However, this stereo > mess with the slave thing is truly inspiring... Ive just been doing one with Insert! INSERT I TELL YOU! I never use insert! its just so.. holy.. you know put holes in things.. and doing it YOUR way is pretty cool too, just that I get that mult stutter by accident so many times... BUT JEEZ.. there so much yo can do with this... like... just ONE pres of UNDO on the slave, puts it one layer out from the master... whatever you do... you over dub on both, or undo both, its will always maintain its.. one layer out from the master... cool as fuck... this takes windowing to a whole new level... @Per, Yes I think you have been away for too long.. the issue here is not what is saved to the preset, but how you control both pedals at once, BUT still have the ability to go back to seperate control. Cos you need to have the EDPs on the same Control Source number (not midi number) and as long as they are the same, ONE EDP (the master) will always control the other, so it cant be operated on its own, however, the pesky Slave, can run off and do things on its own (weird that) which makes for nice poly rhythms, and quirky synch stuff... So my trouble is just that after Ive had my fill of fun, I wanna put it back like I like it, as 2 seperate machines (like 2 seperate tracks in Mobius) but that aint quick. I have to Change the control source parameter form 10 to 56.. which I certainly cant do mid song! M -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --20cf307f335276bb2f04d70c8a26 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 10:42 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk= > wrote:
I *still* say use one beat = cycles and add an extra cycle by
hitting Insert on the slave.
InsertMode =3D SUS
Quant=3DCYC

Yeah I just tried that, it is indee= d, fun. but that Damn Insert =3D SUS, turns everything into a SUS.. (if im = not mistaken) so suddenly I have to hold my foot on Multiply, instead of my= usual triple click for instant mult..

However, th= is stereo > mess with the slave thing is truly inspiring... Ive just bee= n doing one with Insert! INSERT I TELL YOU! I never use insert! its just so= .. holy.. you know put holes in things.. and doing it YOUR way is pretty co= ol too, just that I get that mult stutter by accident so many times...

BUT J= EEZ.. there so much yo can do with this... like... just ONE pres of UNDO on= the slave, puts it one layer out from the master... whatever you do... you= over dub on both, or undo both, its will always=A0maintain=A0its.. one lay= er out from the master... cool as fuck... this takes windowing to a whole n= ew level...

@Per, Yes I= think you have been away for too long.. the issue here is not what is save= d to the preset, but how you control both pedals at once, BUT still have th= e ability to go back to seperate control. Cos you need to have the EDPs on = the same Control Source number (not midi number) and as long as they are th= e same, ONE EDP (the master) will always control the other, so it cant be o= perated on its own, however, the pesky Slave, can run off and do things on = its own (weird that) which makes for nice poly=A0rhythms, and quirky synch = stuff...=A0

So my troub= le is just that after Ive had my fill of fun, I wanna put it back like I li= ke it, as 2 seperate machines (like 2 seperate tracks in Mobius) but that a= int quick. I have to Change the control source parameter form 10 to 56.. wh= ich I certainly cant do mid song!

M


--
Mark Francombe<= br> www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
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<= /font>
--20cf307f335276bb2f04d70c8a26-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 4 05:21:20 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48FF81834CF; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 05:21:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=w4rFzPLHWCJd/9Ds81Vbaas0t+7ywmnib8mkxI2nY3o=; b=t3XAfkc3iwdp0F8X+QDvnMkztmMmI6tQhZhg2wKk4Um0zh0iAqLWZAYNFdfnb4S7se aEfNOJRiJf8yAEgFZr3zOSatAh+AORJMh+X+NIMt8KzayZP1Ts7PiUg92mYPubiQVVsk krJrOC20D+IPSEa8+hngO25je0xp9BrOQ+SAwaG531Rq5QQdqF8oFYzsMCtYSgL5mhnv Vq8fFaBZek7aj8Kbl6Xa13YxxJBcoQC65dW3qc5/+BQJIjue6JNmBkshvuS2fjgxC/Xu c0ECOWzl83SOCyqISJv1gijASgXu9ulvRlncBOBWvKd0ZhVMRayDmKbTRL3HGyHFbBUe /3eg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.46.17 with SMTP id r17mr16718956lam.47.1362374478441; Sun, 03 Mar 2013 21:21:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 00:21:18 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: EFC-7 issues From: George Turcotte To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec5524106d6b3ca04d7128645 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120395 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 05:21:20 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec5524106d6b3ca04d7128645 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello Superhumans, My EFC-7 is on the fritz (and I have gigs dialed in - argh) The footswitch worked fine for a spell. I had a friend clone it into a far cooler looking box. That one worked fine too. Now they've just gone bad, but it seems to be only the one button (record, groan - why not 'undo???') - on *both*pedals... how wierd. Same button, two pedals... The record button on the EPP's front panel also works fine, as do the rest of 'em on said panel... just the two record buttons on the floor... (?) I've learned about static and how to control it - done. Have I done some kind of internal damage with static? Don't think so - the 'plex works fine controlling it by hand. Unfortunately, I keep my hands rather busy when looping... I'm stuck in a rut and would much prefer a loop. Help? rhythmrhymer --bcaec5524106d6b3ca04d7128645 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Superhumans,

My EFC-7 is on the fritz (and I have gigs dialed = in - argh) The footswitch worked fine for a spell. I had a friend clone it = into a far cooler looking box. That one worked fine too. Now they've ju= st gone bad, but it seems to be only the one button (record, groan - why no= t 'undo???') - on both pedals... how wierd. Same button, two= pedals... The record button on the EPP's front panel also works fine, = as do the rest of 'em on said panel... just the two record buttons on t= he floor... (?)

I've learned about static and how to control it - done. Have I done= some kind of internal damage with static? Don't think so - the 'pl= ex works fine controlling it by hand. Unfortunately, I keep my hands rather= busy when looping...

I'm stuck in a rut and would much prefer a loop. Help?

rhyth= mrhymer
--bcaec5524106d6b3ca04d7128645-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 4 10:12:29 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCC931834CD; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 10:12:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 843557525/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.179.136/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.179.136 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMBAPdxNFFV0rOI/2dsb2JhbAANOMJMgRSDEgEBAQQ4QBELGAkWDwkDAgECAUUcAbxrkkGPFBaDKgOcKo4Q X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,779,1355097600"; d="scan'208";a="843557525" Message-ID: <51347395.3080300@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 10:12:37 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EFC-7 issues References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120396 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 10:12:29 +0000 (UTC) Hi George, Rec is the switch you use most, so it's the first to wear out/get dirty. Blast them with switch cleaner, and if that doesn't help replace them. OR, try a different lead to connect EFC-7 to EDP andy George Turcotte wrote: > Hello Superhumans, > > My EFC-7 is on the fritz (and I have gigs dialed in - argh) The > footswitch worked fine for a spell. I had a friend clone it into a far > cooler looking box. That one worked fine too. Now they've just gone bad, > but it seems to be only the one button (record, groan - why not > 'undo???') - on /both/ pedals... how wierd. Same button, two pedals... > The record button on the EPP's front panel also works fine, as do the > rest of 'em on said panel... just the two record buttons on the floor... (?) > > I've learned about static and how to control it - done. Have I done some > kind of internal damage with static? Don't think so - the 'plex works > fine controlling it by hand. Unfortunately, I keep my hands rather busy > when looping... > > I'm stuck in a rut and would much prefer a loop. Help? > > rhythmrhymer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 4 10:48:11 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB61E1834CE; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 10:48:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2410 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 10:48:11 UTC From: patrick dunn Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_570DB281-9F53-4DBD-B486-4C7F43CAE91D" Subject: Re: Live looping, 5 string viola + ableton Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 10:07:58 +0000 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <1988349551.7395325.1362263667600.JavaMail.root@zimbra67-e11.priv.proxad.net> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120397 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 10:48:11 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_570DB281-9F53-4DBD-B486-4C7F43CAE91D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks for the comments folks. Yes, I'm new to LD this time round, but I = was a member a couple of years ago. I'm looking at all sorts of = looping/tech-supported live performance, particularly including live AV = elements.=20 There's a kind of looping bit at the end of this beast, in which I = "paint" semi-randomised polygons onto a screen, using a WX5 midi = controller: https://vimeo.com/60905000. The idea is that the live = performer plays the piece, then walks away and the system basically = constructs a never-ending looping installation that creates both music = and visuals. Good to be back! Patrick=20 On 3 Mar 2013, at 20:25, Jim Goodin wrote: > Patrick very rich and lovely work and to me effective looping. Added = efx of waves are cool and the editing on the opening passages was nice. = I think you are new to Loopers-Delight but I may be wrong. If new = welcome to LD. >=20 > I'm another looping fiddler among few other instruments though more of = a hack :) >=20 > Jim Goodin >=20 > On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 5:34 PM, wrote: > Very cool work, and I love too "Walzer incerta populare"and the = balance between solo instrument and textures. >=20 > ----- Mail original ----- > De: "mark francombe" > =C0: "loopers-delight" > Envoy=E9: Samedi 2 Mars 2013 21:23:20 > Objet: Re: Live looping, 5 string viola + ableton >=20 >=20 > Very nice Patrick! >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 7:33 PM, patrick dunn < = patrick@networked-learning.com > wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 > Hi all - a piece with various forms of loops, sound effects etc. >=20 >=20 > https://vimeo.com/60900434 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Comments/feedback very welcome. >=20 >=20 > Thanks! >=20 >=20 > Patrick >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > -- > jimgoodin.com - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive = minimalism' > =20 > The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music - 'Organically inspired New = Music' > =20 > =46rom Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim = Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF = International >=20 > Tips Across the Waters, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and = Wire Ware. --Apple-Mail=_570DB281-9F53-4DBD-B486-4C7F43CAE91D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 https://vimeo.com/60905000. The = idea is that the live performer plays the piece, then walks away and the = system basically constructs a never-ending looping installation that = creates both music and visuals.

Good to be = back!

Patrick 

On 3 Mar = 2013, at 20:25, Jim Goodin wrote:

Patrick = very rich and lovely work and to me effective looping.  Added efx = of waves are cool and the editing on the opening passages was nice. =  I think you are new to Loopers-Delight but I may be wrong. =  If new welcome to LD.

I'm another looping fiddler among few other instruments = though more of a hack :)

Jim = Goodin

On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at = 5:34 PM, <emmanuel.reveneau@free.fr> wrote:
Very cool work, and I = love too "Walzer incerta populare"and the balance between solo = instrument and textures.

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Very nice Patrick!



On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 7:33 PM, patrick dunn < patrick@networked-learning.= com > wrote:



Hi all - a piece with various forms of loops, sound effects etc.


https://vimeo.com/60900434



Comments/feedback very welcome.


Thanks!


Patrick



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= --Apple-Mail=_570DB281-9F53-4DBD-B486-4C7F43CAE91D-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 4 12:12:24 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9759B1834CF; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:12:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=7wC171SroZrKOPQMOVOq0ICJAWaU3ZOPxx/Q+Nh3tqY=; b=imCP7x+ssLZ0+4Ic2+k1vu0YMzAN6IfRfNE3BEK97DGsUsaImFFHR1pb2/3YdECpLI p1kO5gI5VA6b/agsuMoHX6jgCJEGphO13pXfgkPzpiF0HT2PSZTKzoIw3M+fLctAZf/8 stxC+7r5TfC8JD3ZNxoRs+dKb8mls2NjkvXkLEbN2AbaoCs2Wz15fVDV/H8uSpF5VEcT I2tkD/OCbbQRDcEjTyyylQhOOsgviKCz/bd3NteP0a11ihMLGjk6lXeSFsRgEgz27QEa rDHFC9x/XumQEp7cmMSydKCMQBiKaPHg3Q5VVJq3bwl5ag2PYLaNOcV5PQfU5Nsj5BJn vi/w== X-Received: by 10.221.10.145 with SMTP id pa17mr3040056vcb.11.1362399143745; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 04:12:23 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 13:12:03 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9sA8nz1dlhCZKfaUAhQTTBT1Egg Message-ID: Subject: OT: Lost CC functionality on Roland GR55 To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54fb7ea018e9a04d7184595 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120398 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:12:24 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec54fb7ea018e9a04d7184595 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The Roland GR55 has a set of 8 controllers, by default mapped to CC 1-8. I had these set up on my iPad on a Touch OSC template, so I could have hands on control of 8 different parameters--- and it was working, now it isnt!!! I have another GR55 template (not made by me) that I purely use for programming it, (I have bad knees) that is the whole of the 55 exposed in an iPad Layout... This continues to work.. EXCEPT.. yes, the 8 CC controllers!!! So, my thought is that Ive done something on the GR55 to stop the recieving of CCs or switched off some main parameter, but I cant find what that could be!!! Anyone out there know what Im talking about? Mark -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --bcaec54fb7ea018e9a04d7184595 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The Roland GR55 has a set of = 8 controllers, by default mapped to CC 1-8. I had these set up on my iPad o= n a Touch OSC=A0template, so I could have hands on control of 8=A0different= =A0parameters--- and it was working, now it isnt!!!

I have another GR55 template (not made by m= e) that I=A0purely=A0use for programming it, (I have bad knees) that is the= whole of the 55 exposed in an iPad Layout...=A0
This conti= nues to work.. EXCEPT.. yes, the 8 CC controllers!!!=A0

So, my thought is that Ive done something o= n the GR55 to stop the recieving of CCs or switched off some main parameter= , but I cant find what that could be!!!

Anyone out there know what Im talking about?

Mark


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<= /font> --bcaec54fb7ea018e9a04d7184595-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 4 15:29:36 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 413711834D0; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 15:29:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 15:29:34 +0000 From: Philip Conway To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Expression/volume pedals Message-ID: <6A1AE50B57DAE135CF7ABBFF@epi-pc372.epi.bris.ac.uk> Originator-Info: login-token=Mulberry:01lW4ykgXRasSToXj71grSlwDUnKH1wwWbpQTWnZr6ywick/WO5KM=; token_authority=mailto:postmaster@bristol.ac.uk X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120399 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 15:29:36 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, Over the weekend I finally set up my Moog EP2 expression pedal with my Gordius LG2 foot controller. It's not a difficult process at all, I just didn't get round to figuring it out until now. It works beautifully (I especially love the customisable log/anti-log curves on the LG2) but the controller itself is a bit flimsy. I'm using it mostly for doing volume swells and things that are quite intensive and stressful on the mechanism. The plastic cased controller seems like it would be fine for just tweaking volume or effect levels while playing (or something mundane like that) but when using it to 'swell' every note I'm playing it feels as though it'll wear out in no time. There seem to be two alternatives: (1) Other plastic expression pedals like the Yamaha FC7 or Roland EV5. (2) Bigger, heavier, metal volume pedals like the Ernie Ball range. The LG2, in all its wonderfulness, can make midi controllers out of either these sorts of pedals. So, my questions are: - Does anyone else use a volume pedal as an expression controller, with the LG2 or otherwise? Does it work well? Is it worth the extra size, weight and expense? - Will the EP2 wear out with heavy use or is it hardier than it looks? - Are the FC7 or EV5 significantly better than the EP2? (This seems unlikely but it's worth asking.) I'm thinking that a good setup would be to have one nice, heavy, solid volume pedal for doing volume swells, filter sweeps and so on and then one or two of the EP2-style expression pedals for performing less swivel-heavy tasks such as controlling levels, etc. That said, the EP2 does the job - I'm just not sure how long it'll last. Thanks! Philip. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 4 15:41:38 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55D071834D3; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 15:41:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=G8mICs74B/3nu9JkSZCieWxflGTJzR6LswSvDwIzIHQ=; b=rB3tnzVAtPKhukf17nMAT+d7wOLhJISI2iaGMUnTT1MduBW74lfA8lEBOP/lRsfSNn 5S9fgAU6rmNOvXFoUQV4xlUWDoi8Dog8GqswKLLOqPWOWK8XW6ACJE+YXWG7RUG4blkr TsRayH5xNFI/BEWq519IWuodnnnf8UwHLvQuane2XHp5DEvns0wgXz3M+XwDSokZlmxK 8GMJf+m7NrqqR3sNaOKb1veHlfXNBVvfOMxkokvzCk4UxS5MIdIW2rixSnmAODJdXMbN VKuvKEGk7Lzj4MjzcvEPpwy9AJ4kqnNh/ZFnXlmTAW1xAH5Ambmd0v949mEABruU14Rp GIAQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.29.194 with SMTP id m2mr15328258oeh.36.1362411697632; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 07:41:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <6A1AE50B57DAE135CF7ABBFF@epi-pc372.epi.bris.ac.uk> References: <6A1AE50B57DAE135CF7ABBFF@epi-pc372.epi.bris.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 07:41:37 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Expression/volume pedals From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120400 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 15:41:38 +0000 (UTC) I've got three pedals in my setup: an IK multimedia stealth pedal, a Roland EV5 and a M-Audio expression pedal. The EV5 is the nicest of the three, but that's not saying much. I liked the pedals on my old FCB1010 better. I would also be interested in hearing which expression pedals people prefer. On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Philip Conway wrote: > Hi folks, > > Over the weekend I finally set up my Moog EP2 expression pedal with my > Gordius LG2 foot controller. It's not a difficult process at all, I just > didn't get round to figuring it out until now. > > It works beautifully (I especially love the customisable log/anti-log curves > on the LG2) but the controller itself is a bit flimsy. I'm using it mostly > for doing volume swells and things that are quite intensive and stressful on > the mechanism. The plastic cased controller seems like it would be fine for > just tweaking volume or effect levels while playing (or something mundane > like that) but when using it to 'swell' every note I'm playing it feels as > though it'll wear out in no time. > > There seem to be two alternatives: > (1) Other plastic expression pedals like the Yamaha FC7 or Roland EV5. > (2) Bigger, heavier, metal volume pedals like the Ernie Ball range. > > The LG2, in all its wonderfulness, can make midi controllers out of either > these sorts of pedals. So, my questions are: > > - Does anyone else use a volume pedal as an expression controller, with the > LG2 or otherwise? Does it work well? Is it worth the extra size, weight > and expense? > - Will the EP2 wear out with heavy use or is it hardier than it looks? > - Are the FC7 or EV5 significantly better than the EP2? (This seems > unlikely but it's worth asking.) > > I'm thinking that a good setup would be to have one nice, heavy, solid > volume pedal for doing volume swells, filter sweeps and so on and then one > or two of the EP2-style expression pedals for performing less swivel-heavy > tasks such as controlling levels, etc. > > That said, the EP2 does the job - I'm just not sure how long it'll last. > > Thanks! > > Philip. > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 4 15:54:59 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F8341834CE; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 15:54:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=dIr+A5lb c=1 sm=1 a=UncmS/Am0Fgh8c8TZh5eWA==:17 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=j7yUbd3AoKAA:10 a=YC0tn4SYAtnch5XHVw8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=UncmS/Am0Fgh8c8TZh5eWA==:117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Re: EFC-7 issues From: Ted Killian In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 07:52:37 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3871B364-56B4-46BA-832F-5D86402DD347@charter.net> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120401 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 15:54:59 +0000 (UTC) George, The button you use the most always wears out the soonest. Those of us who owned EDPs and EFC-7s for a bunch of years found this = out over time. Even the original simple sturdy red buttons don't last forever. I bought a bag of those red buttons from Mouser Electronics (a lifetime = supply, no doubt). Periodically they just went bad (every couple of years for me at least). I always kept 'em in my gig toolbox along with a soldering iron. Obviously there is often not time to fix something broken right before a = gig (or in the middle of one). So I carried an extra EFC-7 as well. It was either that or go with some expensive and complicated MIDI = solution that has it's own gremlins, demons, and wear/repair issues. I no longer own any of it but do it all in software - but that was my = experience when I did. Ted On Mar 3, 2013, at 9:21 PM, George Turcotte wrote: > Hello Superhumans, >=20 > My EFC-7 is on the fritz (and I have gigs dialed in - argh) The = footswitch worked fine for a spell. I had a friend clone it into a far = cooler looking box. That one worked fine too. Now they've just gone bad, = but it seems to be only the one button (record, groan - why not = 'undo???') - on both pedals... how wierd. Same button, two pedals... The = record button on the EPP's front panel also works fine, as do the rest = of 'em on said panel... just the two record buttons on the floor... (?) >=20 > I've learned about static and how to control it - done. Have I done = some kind of internal damage with static? Don't think so - the 'plex = works fine controlling it by hand. Unfortunately, I keep my hands rather = busy when looping... >=20 > I'm stuck in a rut and would much prefer a loop. Help? >=20 > rhythmrhymer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 4 17:25:27 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 16AED1834CF; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 17:25:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 837775007/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.179.136/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.179.136 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMBAB7YNFFV0rOI/2dsb2JhbAANOMJQgRiDEgEBAQMBOEAGCwshFg8JAwIBAgFFHAGICbISkl6PFBaDKgOcKo4Q X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,781,1355097600"; d="scan'208";a="837775007" Message-ID: <5134D910.2060507@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 17:25:36 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Expression/volume pedals References: <6A1AE50B57DAE135CF7ABBFF@epi-pc372.epi.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <6A1AE50B57DAE135CF7ABBFF@epi-pc372.epi.bris.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120402 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 17:25:27 +0000 (UTC) Philip Conway wrote: > > - Does anyone else use a volume pedal as an expression controller, with > the LG2 or otherwise? Does it work well? only the LG2 (afaik) would be configurable for this, ...but I doubt the resolution would be as good as with a linear pot (genuine expression pedal) > Is it worth the extra size, > weight and expense? doubt it > - Will the EP2 wear out with heavy use or is it hardier than it looks? The plastic footpedal isn't the bit that wears out, what wears out is the potentiometer. Maybe the internal mechanism works lose....but you have an allen key...right? > - Are the FC7 or EV5 significantly better than the EP2? (This seems > unlikely but it's worth asking.) I agree with you, but unfortunately also lack experience. Moog stuff is generally built to last, it's possible they just bought in these pedals, but I'd be guessing they would specify a decent pot. I don't believe there'll be anything special about Boss/Yamaha, ...except the price. The FC7 has a different pot to a regular exp pedal, I think the LG2 handles it, but I'd go with the regular exp pedal. ( the LG2 can compensate, but resolution is better if it doesn't have to ) > > I'm thinking that a good setup would be to have one nice, heavy, solid > volume pedal for doing volume swells, filter sweeps and so on and then > one or two of the EP2-style expression pedals for performing less > swivel-heavy tasks such as controlling levels, etc. I use the cheapest expression pedals possible, and the one that got very heavy use as swell lasted well over a decade. I think a couple of times I had to open it for adjustment (not difficult). That's the Bespeco stuff, they do equivalents for most types of pedal, they look/feel like the Roland stuff but cost much less. Look on ebay for good deals. > > That said, the EP2 does the job - I'm just not sure how long it'll last. :-) I think you'll be ok. andy ps. The Alesis peds look great...but have a slow response...avoid. I ordered 4 and sent them back next day. > > Thanks! > > Philip. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 4 17:30:56 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89F361834CE; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 17:30:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fASwlJoOHIrYmMcsLgJeeINN7w9yhCt5+TeHa7zyK48=; b=VW9nl3DzcMubE82+33H8T5FAPbzNYcWGOPcv3wyAwfShm7HPSj7qem2F1rCbxcuH4+ fNeh8mC6fk1bU1l7uHpf3z/PDnM0wtaE140fZl/aQzRWU4V71JpFdxVVhgW1pPnC+WhU +/Xq/I1G2lZCv1Z0pr2ZikIoo1BGFj+pROOMtczNvrmKBxx51VL6D3QzN+I2lvXCJKux 2pBa7LqSAP2W2mZpTWb7YqcVr1PqJGSmlSwj0qrwrMJzOshoBJ+W0ldD3D/YRy7v9zlX J83uthdU3VGgFbDhkoZFWW336uEAWZZmXeb7qOSZx3gKbhrfrtfgzJ7gG+YROdU6yDx0 IkeQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.31.103 with SMTP id z7mr7052158vdh.56.1362418255999; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 09:30:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <6A1AE50B57DAE135CF7ABBFF@epi-pc372.epi.bris.ac.uk> References: <6A1AE50B57DAE135CF7ABBFF@epi-pc372.epi.bris.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 18:30:55 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Expression/volume pedals From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120403 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 17:30:56 +0000 (UTC) I used many sorts of continuous pedals in the past but since few years ago I only use EV5 units. A good thing with the EV5 is that you can buy a replace one anywhere and they seem to last for a long time as well as not force luggage into the expensive overweight range. I even use them for wha-wha pedal function in the AxeFx2 and they feel just as playable as any Vox or Cry Baby. Can't say any kind of continuous pedal has proven "better" than any other to me, specifically not when plugging them into a LG2 that compensates for minor discrepancies in range etc. I use between zero up to five continuous pedals with different setups I keep around. Often I break up my performance routing to allow for wiggling two pedals at the same time (got to have broad shoes!) or just one of them instead of assigning one pedal to all function (leaving you with less instant playability). I also often program switch buttons to duplicate the expression pedals but for instant switching between two levels (standard appl is cross-fading a delay feedback/level/balance control - or should I say "cross-jumping" with the 0-127 range?") Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Philip Conway wrote: > Hi folks, > > Over the weekend I finally set up my Moog EP2 expression pedal with my > Gordius LG2 foot controller. It's not a difficult process at all, I just > didn't get round to figuring it out until now. > > It works beautifully (I especially love the customisable log/anti-log curves > on the LG2) but the controller itself is a bit flimsy. I'm using it mostly > for doing volume swells and things that are quite intensive and stressful on > the mechanism. The plastic cased controller seems like it would be fine for > just tweaking volume or effect levels while playing (or something mundane > like that) but when using it to 'swell' every note I'm playing it feels as > though it'll wear out in no time. > > There seem to be two alternatives: > (1) Other plastic expression pedals like the Yamaha FC7 or Roland EV5. > (2) Bigger, heavier, metal volume pedals like the Ernie Ball range. > > The LG2, in all its wonderfulness, can make midi controllers out of either > these sorts of pedals. So, my questions are: > > - Does anyone else use a volume pedal as an expression controller, with the > LG2 or otherwise? Does it work well? Is it worth the extra size, weight > and expense? > - Will the EP2 wear out with heavy use or is it hardier than it looks? > - Are the FC7 or EV5 significantly better than the EP2? (This seems > unlikely but it's worth asking.) > > I'm thinking that a good setup would be to have one nice, heavy, solid > volume pedal for doing volume swells, filter sweeps and so on and then one > or two of the EP2-style expression pedals for performing less swivel-heavy > tasks such as controlling levels, etc. > > That said, the EP2 does the job - I'm just not sure how long it'll last. > > Thanks! > > Philip. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 4 19:08:24 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 005CB1834D0; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 19:08:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gHbSAQGGKdSzrBD7h5zJc7jH0epo/aSxOago39J8QpE=; b=TizQBAS9lQp48GdGoScaxiKjz/FD17tXJlAFPDt5NgPIOj8yPZ4pOoGZyIs8LTlpe3 s07r0SPXPVD8IUNabjhaGmJ7/gDKDo/8Cl9akC+8g46ahW7ULLKLxc3Vqi6BtV6jDLSc EhiU8CEFBwDCYRXX/4p9YgRo5iVq22l6PqCcMe8j3OeiU/6wvTdcDBs5wZOlcdZjJB1E IYWr+hUMqBapsQ/qiIQZMBb04e/zS+q07gbBC3zC+aikHvp+m6ghXiwwlvWz1X+g+LZu 5bJB9Pn3Er+B8HxNxZFHGtmVk3jrSFdlu5Qab+5AaN8/9GxtfpgyBJenFPR3VZavYrFP hRPQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.186.81 with SMTP id cr17mr34798637qab.99.1362424103512; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 11:08:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <6A1AE50B57DAE135CF7ABBFF@epi-pc372.epi.bris.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 14:08:23 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Expression/volume pedals From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=485b397dcddbb9360d04d71e1421 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120404 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 19:08:23 +0000 (UTC) --485b397dcddbb9360d04d71e1421 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I had a sudden vision of Per in "broad shoes"! http://www.spearshoes.com/ :) On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > >Often I break up my performance > >routing to allow for wiggling two pedals at the same time (got to have > >broad shoes!) > But seriously I use several different pedals. I use an EP2 with my Lexicon Vortex and it works very well and has not worn out after several years use. I do pump it pretty strenuously at times. I use an Ernie Ball Jr with my Digitech Timebender and it works but has an issue with returning to the same exact spot on heel down. It always want to come back up a tad after release. Probably the rubber bumper? I use two Line 6 EX1's with my M9. They seem pretty flimsy but have held up so far. I don't think they are as precision as I would like. One does not return to the set point (close) so I use it for loop vol. the other better one for fx like whammy type where is has to come back to zero or I'll be even more out of tune than usual! For volume/wah I still use the built in one on my Digitech RP 250. It just works and has for years and years! Now I need another of some type for my Eventide Space! I am thinking EV5 but they are pricey for a piece of plastic with a pot imo although I have never used one so maybe I'll be surprised. > > That said, the EP2 does the job - I'm just not sure how long it'll last. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Philip. > > > > --485b397dcddbb9360d04d71e1421 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had a sudden vision of Per in "broad shoes"! http://www.spearshoes.com/ :)

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gma= il.com> wrote:
>Often I break up my performance
>routing to allow for wiggling two pedals at the same time (got to have<= br> >broad shoes!)

But seriously I use several diff= erent pedals. I use an EP2 with my Lexicon Vortex and it works very well an= d has not worn out after several years use. I do pump it pretty strenuously= at times.
I use an Ernie Ball Jr with my Digitech Timebender and it works but has an = issue with returning to the same exact spot on heel down. It always want to= come back up a tad after release. Probably the rubber bumper?
I use two= Line 6 EX1's with my M9. They seem pretty flimsy but have held up so f= ar. I don't think they are as precision as I would like. One does not r= eturn to the set point (close) so I use it for loop vol. the other better o= ne for fx like whammy type where is has to come back to zero or I'll be= even more out of tune than usual!
For volume/wah I still use the built in one on my Digitech RP 250. It just = works and has for years and years!
Now I need another of some type for m= y Eventide Space! I am thinking EV5 but they are pricey for a piece of plas= tic with a pot imo although I have never used one so maybe I'll be surp= rised.
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> That said, the EP2 does the job - I'm just not sure how long it= 9;ll last.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Philip.
>


--485b397dcddbb9360d04d71e1421-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 4 20:48:24 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A3CE41834CE; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 20:48:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=W/g+1PFFFJvrR0Nmas+nMbZW91rCeLIblv8pCeltNbU=; b=Vu3Xrr7NrXcE+yCMHOYpPfRmD5vidx5x03W4DxcidJHJWem37O52/lumXmCYz9OClp L8dosXvjoQOyWGKS5QoXVNiYM6IZurlR7fnDHz4N25vUwlaWxqg/F2gzT9gmb3XBDOp5 kbF2AHU68n0qeUOhWaGxJidOGD6bNEioL+evB4WCQkncyfmYOZjufWxLlqeCMRSLOYO9 CKDI8E/Z0l2nsqZh3vsO0gpR1dPYf9EhEc+Vcu6fpoKZDFip9nFTO0NN+/Byjfv+v4XM 9yZSJACCoyawCRMXDogxI3Le2F6JanOoNH2fHTJJkHjug+WcdqvSBQPnqKaDDJtW4mir /aqA== X-Received: by 10.14.223.199 with SMTP id v47mr62514991eep.18.1362430103609; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 12:48:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <51350894.5030708@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 21:48:20 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBXaWVybm93b2xza2k=?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130221 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Lost CC functionality on Roland GR55 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020407060905000102060408" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120405 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 20:48:24 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020407060905000102060408 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Mark, I've looked at the GR-55 owner's manual and found something suspicious in the MIDI Implementation Chart (page 94). According to the note at the bottom CC messages can only be received through the Basic channel. Whatever the Basic channel is, it is memorized, so you could have changed it in the GR-55 system menu. Hope this helps, Michał > > The Roland GR55 has a set of 8 controllers, by default mapped to CC > 1-8. I had these set up on my iPad on a Touch OSC template, so I could > have hands on control of 8 different parameters--- and it was working, > now it isnt!!! > > I have another GR55 template (not made by me) that I purely use for > programming it, (I have bad knees) that is the whole of the 55 exposed > in an iPad Layout... > This continues to work.. EXCEPT.. yes, the 8 CC controllers!!! > > So, my thought is that Ive done something on the GR55 to stop the > recieving of CCs or switched off some main parameter, but I cant find > what that could be!!! > > Anyone out there know what Im talking about? > > Mark > > > -- > /_Mark Francombe_/ > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --------------020407060905000102060408 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi Mark,

I've looked at the GR-55 owner's manual and found something suspicious in the MIDI Implementation Chart (page 94).
According to the note at the bottom CC messages can only be received through the Basic channel.
Whatever the Basic channel is, it is memorized, so you could have changed it in the GR-55 system menu.

Hope this helps,
Michał


The Roland GR55 has a set of 8 controllers, by default mapped to CC 1-8. I had these set up on my iPad on a Touch OSC template, so I could have hands on control of 8 different parameters--- and it was working, now it isnt!!!

I have another GR55 template (not made by me) that I purely use for programming it, (I have bad knees) that is the whole of the 55 exposed in an iPad Layout... 
This continues to work.. EXCEPT.. yes, the 8 CC controllers!!! 

So, my thought is that Ive done something on the GR55 to stop the recieving of CCs or switched off some main parameter, but I cant find what that could be!!!

Anyone out there know what Im talking about?

Mark


--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/

--------------020407060905000102060408-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 4 21:22:59 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF2F31834CE; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 21:22:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=bOIJBmcXnvQoj6i1ZC7mCLV2voFh2rvDO0FwxA8lhmU=; b=t0WRRPqTK12SC1oTbhnWcNbydV/By0sSs6OwbDao94Hy+YTaQI78Syc7mGaOxD1DSL 58WTPzaFyeSBbHsWHXDLVhlg9rTOYI9PAqpUcrCQ3a0mnxIFZWqOT0C19lWOKWcPo8X9 zhBlRl/x686FIu2pRkSDz976Wnk9PqcjtYpGj7WQ7BkL8slvYcYo7TDieK+KdZS0YdTI aawpkT+4s7/A7GVuzy4WCJnsp7Dh/bZ3qWlK6OJPAgsrzySkkc2xehDG3R+IKoTG7S4E kLhnIRyD8g6IxSgeY8xcp4ALWx9OTx7bRROGGg3imN1vVWIQ0Sko0bz6Lq0bxbUVd0UU Z6DA== X-Received: by 10.221.10.145 with SMTP id pa17mr3888149vcb.11.1362432179132; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 13:22:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <51350894.5030708@gmail.com> References: <51350894.5030708@gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 22:22:38 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Us4N4C2a-O15w-p2sroTfwHBUJ4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Lost CC functionality on Roland GR55 To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54fb7ea118e2904d71ff6ef Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120406 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 21:22:59 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec54fb7ea118e2904d71ff6ef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hmm I wonder if thats the same as the patch channel? Its is probably this... but I cant explain why all the OTHER things on my TouchOSC template are working fine... ahh.. maybe they are not CC.. Hmm.. thanks Michal.. off to poke about a bit.. On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Micha=C5=82 Wiernowolski = wrote: > Hi Mark, > > I've looked at the GR-55 owner's manual and found something suspicious in > the MIDI Implementation Chart (page 94). > According to the note at the bottom CC messages can only be received > through the Basic channel. > Whatever the Basic channel is, it is memorized, so you could have changed > it in the GR-55 system menu. > > Hope this helps, > Micha=C5=82 > > > The Roland GR55 has a set of 8 controllers, by default mapped to CC 1-8. = I > had these set up on my iPad on a Touch OSC template, so I could have hand= s > on control of 8 different parameters--- and it was working, now it isnt!!= ! > > I have another GR55 template (not made by me) that I purely use for > programming it, (I have bad knees) that is the whole of the 55 exposed in > an iPad Layout... > This continues to work.. EXCEPT.. yes, the 8 CC controllers!!! > > So, my thought is that Ive done something on the GR55 to stop the > recieving of CCs or switched off some main parameter, but I cant find wha= t > that could be!!! > > Anyone out there know what Im talking about? > > Mark > > > -- > *Mark Francombe* > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ > > > --=20 *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --bcaec54fb7ea118e2904d71ff6ef Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hmm I wonder if thats the same as the patch channel? Its i= s probably this... but I cant explain why all the OTHER things on my TouchO= SC template are working fine... ahh.. maybe they are not CC.. Hmm.. thanks = Michal.. off to poke about a bit..




On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Micha=C5=82 Wiernowolski = <mihalw@gmail.com> wrote:
=20 =20 =20
Hi Mark,

I've looked at the GR-55 owner's manual and found something suspicious in the MIDI Implementation Chart (page 94).
According to the note at the bottom CC messages can only be received through the Basic channel.
Whatever the Basic channel is, it is memorized, so you could have changed it in the GR-55 system menu.

Hope this helps,
Micha=C5=82


The Roland GR55 has a set of 8 controllers, by default mapped to CC 1-8. I had these set up on my iPad on a Touch OSC=C2=A0template, so I could have hands on control of 8=C2=A0different=C2=A0parameters--- and it was working, now it is= nt!!!

I have another GR55 template (not made by me) that I=C2=A0purely=C2=A0use for programming it, (I have bad knees) tha= t is the whole of the 55 exposed in an iPad Layout...=C2=A0
This continues to work.. EXCEPT.. yes, the 8 CC controllers!!!=C2=A0

So, my thought is that Ive done something on the GR55 to stop the recieving of CCs or switched off some main parameter, but I cant find what that could be!!!

Anyone out there know what Im talking about?

Mark


--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/




--
M= ark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
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--bcaec54fb7ea118e2904d71ff6ef-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 4 21:57:06 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0EC81834CE; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 21:57:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <9993F805-B969-45C0-B298-7318CAA393EF@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-23--272553327 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Expression/volume pedals Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 13:56:59 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120407 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 21:57:06 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-23--272553327 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I use the EV-5's, because they seem to last a pretty long time and are light weight. they have gotten pricey new, I have 4, (2 that I use for the Gordius), plus a couple of line 6 exp pedals ( hey Jeff Duke, my line 6 exp works with my eventide time factor as well as the EV-5 does, go figure) as Andy said Bespeco stuff is similar and just as good as far as i can tell. I have considered going to heavier duty pedals like these guys make, http://missionengineering.com/product-category/expression-pedals/ coupled with this intriguing device they also make,so that I could use one pedal to do the job of three. http://missionengineering.com/shop/expressionator-2/ for me something like this would clean up my floor space, but even then I might still use an EV-5 as one of these mission expression pedals weigh more than 3 EV-5 pedals, similar to a wah pedal in weight at 3.12 lbs Bill --Apple-Mail-23--272553327 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I use the EV-5's, because they = seem to last a pretty long time and are light weight. they have gotten = pricey new, I have 4, (2 that I use for the Gordius),  plus a =  couple of line 6 exp pedals
 ( hey Jeff Duke, my line 6 = exp works with my eventide time factor as well as the EV-5 does, go = figure) as Andy said Bespeco stuff is similar and just as good as far as = i can tell. I have considered going to  heavier duty pedals like = these guys make,

http://missionengineering.com/product-category/expression-pedals/

coupled with this intriguing device they also = make,so that I could use one pedal to do the job of = three.


&nbs= p;for me something like this would clean up my floor space, but even = then I might still use an EV-5 as one of these mission  expression = pedals weigh more than 3 EV-5 pedals, similar to a wah pedal in weight =  at 3.12 lbs
 Bill
= --Apple-Mail-23--272553327-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 4 22:02:36 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53F201834B8; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 22:02:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-24--272222662 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: : Re: Expression/volume pedals Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 14:02:30 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <215WC.A.xRG.8nRNRB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120408 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 22:02:36 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-24--272222662 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit this looks really cool for expression, lighter weight and smaller at 2 lbs 12 oz. http://www.jimdunlop.com/product/dvp3-volume-x http://www.jimdunlop.com/files/manuals/DVP3_VolumePedal_web.pdf --Apple-Mail-24--272222662 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit this looks really cool for expression,  lighter weight  and smaller at 2 lbs 12 oz. --Apple-Mail-24--272222662-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 4 22:29:36 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 338741834CE; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 22:29:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=9riQ/Nx7XHRCgfB5pxWy9Bfm5+9SfbpImUGGjECLyfI=; b=bEpYt3hgp0L514zuKA7hMiIg6hDDTW9doLYKnp42vYeE6/mPch/FloDcZElxpd9IQE DdIQGyVLv9y/H0/nQyHMoFaOMaZ9OU8TyYVmQuDmdqfC48DCay1hNHLv5KnOJw1U78aK RN7g0cf6ntt3N49uZCbkOQxosNc99AvYioFwTZesLwvCYhnqARN0zqa9KzZrHNjYV1je jLlaCeqDSLkhlZr1Okdl8nQ8bn4TF87o1Cd2sayxz2dOjW9ZLfbMwdZpm6QWKgZGycSe FaeikUxsohHQSgBq2im/u1rpF6pxBJ1WSRMzzW32/TlncHlgiHPLZpzzJ7doSvyWboZj NtjA== X-Received: by 10.221.10.145 with SMTP id pa17mr3969243vcb.11.1362436175499; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 14:29:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 23:29:15 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: bUPCsatLdpz9gt7ZcyToj0EtYPI Message-ID: Subject: Re: : Re: Expression/volume pedals To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54fb7ea454c2c04d720e41c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120409 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 22:29:36 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec54fb7ea454c2c04d720e41c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have to admit that years ago I went and bought 2 EV-10s... quite pricy. Ive never tried the EV-5s, but IM very picky with pedals, I HATE wah wah pedals, just too small a run, I like a nice big sweep, so you can actually do something other than twack it back and forwards... For the Vortex I think its absolutely vital, to be able to find that sweet spot on a morph for example! The Expressionator is very cool Bill, I have OTHER plans to that puppy! (If only I had any money whatsoever!!??) M On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:02 PM, William Walker wrote: > this looks really cool for expression, lighter weight and smaller at 2 > lbs 12 oz. > http://www.jimdunlop.com/product/dvp3-volume-x > http://www.jimdunlop.com/files/manuals/DVP3_VolumePedal_web.pdf > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --bcaec54fb7ea454c2c04d720e41c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have to admit that years ago I went and bought 2 EV-10s.= .. quite pricy.
=A0Ive never tried the EV-5s, but IM very picky with ped= als, I HATE wah wah pedals, just too small a run, I like a nice big sweep, = so you can actually do something other than twack it back and forwards... F= or the Vortex I think its absolutely vital, to be able to find that sweet s= pot on a morph for example!

The Expressionator is very cool Bill, I have OTHER pla= ns to that puppy! (If only I had any money whatsoever!!??)

M


On Mon, M= ar 4, 2013 at 11:02 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com>= ; wrote:
this loo= ks really cool for expression, =A0lighter weight =A0and smaller at 2 lbs 12= oz.



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--bcaec54fb7ea454c2c04d720e41c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 4 23:37:40 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 170E41834CC; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 23:37:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Kl17SxYxEKh6tr4Q4eokqzTYdLk61LAvPXuXfLNkO8c=; b=LirV05nk2iildcpJDo6peWdLcB+8lvBWdK0/nmd5b9mRpBkQJe0v/du1mSEmT8ALCC A7/f/PKyuKonMmw7Zpjq31kto0jgXi/aBK8utq9WkL8X7fnekx5XKy8KOWuz0qNrl8Y1 aNkAmNE7/kRMqwBDIK5WYsZLcuV4d5On9CvNBP4gufL0XC10OWSt0zF5vpyxFA7DSTVS 4rq2axcqlVCagW1ijh3cwoMJuHYvdiZNbDR9TYvL817hKlgMEYDln4dOXuPWZ0ZXLS7M CpdEoz5Ne53NnJY5SCIKihGUlV4gZvGTND0BndLNMDcI68hi7/HML06I95AeZ5J1sv9H O/Cw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.33.167 with SMTP id s7mr7448244vdi.52.1362440259358; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 15:37:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 00:37:39 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: : Re: Expression/volume pedals From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120410 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 23:37:40 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:29 PM, mark francombe wrote: > I HATE wah wah pedals, just too small a run, I like a nice big sweep, so you > can actually do something other than twack it back and forwards... Funny how we have totally opposite preferences here. :-) I love the shorter run of a typical wha pedal because I think it offers better/faster control as you can work it with smaller foot movements. But without applying my very specific preferences for sweep scaling a pedal feels dead and unplayable to me. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 5 00:10:23 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0BD9E1834CD; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 00:10:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 601 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 00:10:22 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=KNBzGwUVFFLzXQH4fHU1Dp4LiHCfTOfAsjuyPt+/W8mupyDgT8zvR0Nolmut9XOB; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <21795408.1362441611192.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 18:00:10 -0600 (GMT-06:00) From: Grant Reply-To: Grant To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: : Re: Expression/volume pedals Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 4627597e215714c3ca853a8129e90869f402879cecb40bd5fa8dc0d0ade039e3d353724c17a196a2140116f8bb2f0a37350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.37 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120411 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 00:10:22 +0000 (UTC) If money is no object, http://www.tpa-az.com/page2.htm G From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 5 02:41:09 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 386661834CC; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 02:41:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9yamheVuVWiCyz7UCt/i3SjcB3p3leRWuBy0qbp2G3A=; b=g9pYdb/LM3a0ttWE0Z/6QJnh72tbqucR7a+DTq0wshJHAjN3HTV+rT9JFbGiKXT0K4 s6qDmPv6VWm65b8lr2VSTXiZ42pMFUhDaHu5FjGwSsAnhy1d6sciBsIN1XjP5JFd55WQ t7xqGD/FxsR+j2UStsySaixzaQLQl1Fdj6S71Xc2SBPdSRcRNF/WCkCp0tMETdiqbWLi 43tqixA0sz7SsnaksFlYkBLt0Dxk8eHYj2uFXTrFzLyqgjeT5JarY7PAqV+lGX7FX6uZ U7bZijs/Q3LSmT+F2RmDEAYobAqVW9+ZW1Gwz/HTvSTOQXtvEOggAisotpIm+Mvxx/ET JKjQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.212.6 with SMTP id ng6mr820779obc.26.1362451268429; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 18:41:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3871B364-56B4-46BA-832F-5D86402DD347@charter.net> References: <3871B364-56B4-46BA-832F-5D86402DD347@charter.net> Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 21:41:08 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EFC-7 issues From: George Turcotte To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f646fe1e0f1c004d724674f Resent-Message-ID: <-eD1xD.A.eT.FtVNRB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120412 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 02:41:09 +0000 (UTC) --e89a8f646fe1e0f1c004d724674f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Right - I only wish it was that simple... Yes, the record button died all right on my EFC-7. But not only have I since replaced it (with one of them crappy red ones), I've cloned the entire pedal with superior switches. Also replaced the lead with several fresh, high quality ones just to be sure... no dice. Neither pedal will record - but they will trigger random behaviour, or nothing. And yet, the button on the 'plex works fine. I'm thinking about building a giant kick pedal to activate it! What on earth is going on... *the other switches on both pedals work fine*... George On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Ted Killian wrote: > George, > > The button you use the most always wears out the soonest. > > Those of us who owned EDPs and EFC-7s for a bunch of years found this out > over time. > > Even the original simple sturdy red buttons don't last forever. > > I bought a bag of those red buttons from Mouser Electronics (a lifetime > supply, no doubt). > > Periodically they just went bad (every couple of years for me at least). > > I always kept 'em in my gig toolbox along with a soldering iron. > > Obviously there is often not time to fix something broken right before a > gig (or in the middle of one). > > So I carried an extra EFC-7 as well. > > It was either that or go with some expensive and complicated MIDI solution > that has it's own gremlins, demons, and wear/repair issues. > > I no longer own any of it but do it all in software - but that was my > experience when I did. > > Ted > > > On Mar 3, 2013, at 9:21 PM, George Turcotte wrote: > > > Hello Superhumans, > > > > My EFC-7 is on the fritz (and I have gigs dialed in - argh) The > footswitch worked fine for a spell. I had a friend clone it into a far > cooler looking box. That one worked fine too. Now they've just gone bad, > but it seems to be only the one button (record, groan - why not 'undo???') > - on both pedals... how wierd. Same button, two pedals... The record button > on the EPP's front panel also works fine, as do the rest of 'em on said > panel... just the two record buttons on the floor... (?) > > > > I've learned about static and how to control it - done. Have I done some > kind of internal damage with static? Don't think so - the 'plex works fine > controlling it by hand. Unfortunately, I keep my hands rather busy when > looping... > > > > I'm stuck in a rut and would much prefer a loop. Help? > > > > rhythmrhymer > > --e89a8f646fe1e0f1c004d724674f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Right - I only wish it was that simple... Yes, the record button died all r= ight on my EFC-7. But not only have I since replaced it (with one of them c= rappy red ones), I've cloned the entire pedal with superior switches. A= lso replaced the lead with several fresh, high quality ones just to be sure= ... no dice. Neither pedal will record - but they will trigger random behav= iour, or nothing. And yet, the button on the 'plex works fine. I'm = thinking about building a giant kick pedal to activate it! What on earth is= going on... the other switches on both pedals work fine...

George

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 10:52 A= M, Ted Killian <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
George,

The button you use the most always wears out the soonest.

Those of us who owned EDPs and EFC-7s for a bunch of years found this out o= ver time.

Even the original simple sturdy red buttons don't last forever.

I bought a bag of those red buttons from Mouser Electronics (a lifetime sup= ply, no doubt).

Periodically they just went bad (every couple of years for me at least).
I always kept 'em in my gig toolbox along with a soldering iron.

Obviously there is often not time to fix something broken right before a gi= g (or in the middle of one).

So I carried an extra EFC-7 as well.

It was either that or go with some expensive and complicated MIDI solution = that has it's own gremlins, demons, and wear/repair issues.

I no longer own any of it but do it all in software - but that was my exper= ience when I did.

Ted


On Mar 3, 2013, at 9:21 PM, George Turcotte wrote:

> Hello Superhumans,
>
> My EFC-7 is on the fritz (and I have gigs dialed in - argh) The footsw= itch worked fine for a spell. I had a friend clone it into a far cooler loo= king box. That one worked fine too. Now they've just gone bad, but it s= eems to be only the one button (record, groan - why not 'undo???') = - on both pedals... how wierd. Same button, two pedals... The record button= on the EPP's front panel also works fine, as do the rest of 'em on= said panel... just the two record buttons on the floor... (?)
>
> I've learned about static and how to control it - done. Have I don= e some kind of internal damage with static? Don't think so - the 'p= lex works fine controlling it by hand. Unfortunately, I keep my hands rathe= r busy when looping...
>
> I'm stuck in a rut and would much prefer a loop. Help?
>
> rhythmrhymer


--e89a8f646fe1e0f1c004d724674f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 5 05:28:26 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A9E31834D0; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 05:28:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 05:28:25 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 23:01:11 -0500 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: moving with the light video on You Tube Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120413 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 05:28:25 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I've posted another video on You Tube -- at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OV_wE_pY-c This piece is an except from my February "Moving with the Light" dance jam. The next event in this series is on March 16 at 119 Gallery in Lowell. BTW Some of my photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ -- " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 5 05:28:26 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 379171834D9; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 05:28:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 23:06:22 -0500 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Doctor T in February and March Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Experimental Film Discussion List Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120414 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 05:28:26 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I've got a very busy March. March 9 at 8:30 PM brings Visual Music Live to Outpost 186, with old friend and very special guest David Rothenberg Doctor T video mixing featuring guest artist David Rothenberg -- Nature Samples, Laptop, and Clarinet and regular collaborators Eric Crawley -- harpejji and Electronics Tom Mungenast -- Electric Guitar, Electric Sitar, and Electronics ECM recording artist David Rothenberg has performed and recorded on clarinet with Jan Bang, Scanner, Glen Velez, Karl Berger, Peter Gabriel, Ray Phiri, and the Karnataka College of Percussion. He has twelve CDs out under his own name, including "On the Cliffs of the Heart," named one of the top ten releases of 1995 by Jazziz magazine and "One Dark Night I Left My Silent House," a duet album with pianist Marilyn Crispell, called "une petite miracle" by Le Monde and named by The Village Voice one of the ten best CDs of 2010. Rothenberg is the author of Why Birds Sing, book and CD, published in seven languages and the subject of a BBC television documentary. He is also the author of numerous other books on music, art, and nature, including Thousand Mile Song, about making music with whales, and Survival of the Beautiful, about aesthetics in evolution. Last spring he released a book and CD called Bug Music, featuring the sounds of the entomological world. You'll hear some of them tonight. http://www.zeitgeist-outpost.org March 10 8 PM is a rescheduled Visual Music Live event at Outpost 186 in Cambridge, featuring The OUTPOST Band Doctor T -- Video mixing Eric Zinman --Drums Andrea Pensado -- Electronics and voice Michael Bloom -- Table Guitar and bouzouki Rick Scott -- Keyboard Improvisation to the outer limits. Expect the unexpected-:) March 16 is my next "Moving with the Light" Concert and Dance Jam at 119 Gallery in Lowell, with music by Eric Crawley, Harpejji, and Rick Scott, keyboards and YOU -- movement -- All styles and skill levels welcome. Moving with the Light is a monthly event at which improvised movement, music, and video interact as equals -- each responding to and respectful of the others. A video excerpt from the February event can be seen at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OV_wE_pY-c -- you may need to click the link a few times. The musicians will play improvised music suitable for contact improvisation and other forms of gentle movement, while I improvise imagery and all three of us react to the dancers as well as to each other. http://www.119gallery.org/ Light and Motion, - Photography and video art by Doctor T will be on display at 119 gallery in Lowell, Mar 19 - Apr 13. The show will feature sumptuous 22 x 12 prints from my Swirlies sequence. Some images from this sequence can be seen at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157626713121989/ The reception will be on Sunday, March 24 , from 3 - 6 PM, with a concert to follow at 7:30. -- "I rang a silent bell ..." -- Robert Hunter "... cast your dancing spell my way, I promise to go under it" -- Bob Dylan My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 5 09:58:56 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 035041834D0; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 09:58:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 834470938/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.186.84/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.186.84 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMBACXBNVFV0rpU/2dsb2JhbAANN8JUgRiDEgEBAQQ4QBELGAkWDwkDAgECAUUcAYgbqn2DMZA9jxMWgyoDnC6OEg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,787,1355097600"; d="scan'208";a="834470938" Message-ID: <5135C1EC.6040609@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 09:59:08 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EFC-7 issues References: <3871B364-56B4-46BA-832F-5D86402DD347@charter.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120415 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 09:58:55 +0000 (UTC) OK, if we rule out the switch. You can look at this:- http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/echoplex/FAQ6.html#static but there are other things you could check first. If you have a meter for resistance.. plug lead into EFC-7 hold down Rec Check resistance across jack terminals, should be 0 ohms. Also: Plug lead into EDP Footswitch jack. Then see if you can trigger Rec by shorting the jack terminals. Having done that we can tell if the EDP is faulty. If it is, then probably you'll need the assistance of a technician. George Turcotte wrote: > Right - I only wish it was that simple... the problem with the switches is really common. It's still possible this is a switch issue from what you have said. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 5 14:23:03 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3655F1834CA; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 14:23:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 665749.77593.bm@omp1024.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1362493381; bh=tCVDhbxVNVbgUdKpT0hzTTv8+Bcsj154IsO0iKY0Uik=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ko3pMgtPjVs102vHA4kCCAw/ARsq8QxMj5gXEPGg2G9jxRxERbfi1+3+gQ7NS/101VZgIV309OXY0rYSHNAAWb5UTzZ6WdP/w8QSG5foF9mBZ6EQ4vZA82/Exy4uhpiGCKSu1D9+EnDip9ZCQVYlNnSahtBnmYYDE2bfi7Y4dEM= X-YMail-OSG: xq6ADIUVM1m6IUW1sh9nlDLvoR7kgWSx8uhM_OCuzFpAgKq OYayCZhjk.F7P5zZD8qqG7aV07i._SjVXZM0cONyNt2xf8nBfertG8H2uSe5 sfxVnkY0bUS44.nqanPjsoqWHh1C217sLDEdX8hvDfm.Y92qRWjoJMQ00TKf p9sn3NSyDruiqNV5Fw0lwVb5hepI4ASNRvJ0gK0nzyBI3fmLoVxcJdEPPIj9 wCBgWlLQvN4JOFU6uZKMuFszV.SxhiktIIc3OJLRS8BwhyeB53djtCn1Xrwi nc3h34D4cz7k3PdrrLgX7f5J4rA2CDRrqLRGO2lUV3m91o4SPTLWPMkKju6T 2YN949QK94PSPr6tVypaAofahD31Ygd2OugjmT.YIhSbhwOVmEfQPgp8hTr_ KYwdYw.xsftXEhBb2y6ilA7J7OkdQKdlpFH4jQhUCm_.5ksTP8QU98hHLg9u 3qm0j32XUq_0SMiL8GeNEuogK2VnUs_VvLXmVBxrtlsNji1Fm8tfYKRXeC4l 9RiyyaGZbFPZyJoXer6ZT097Re0eNH4yeYcoMbUc9ZWtb1.p6lOyTn__IpZ2 lshLIc0jzz786SarqHDgLJrhB_J1wPmi9InU.1ibBmQgnNokE3jLxJ3A6S4D AtAa0NX5pehsfjF4GkCT8Vkma_urUovgF1ecvVEXkQ8thrFAiIkjEI7a37IE oL8w1boOsZ1NSn6jwjzcyR1MHL9IqNqNAg5LTWCXdA_Ue.YUspUPo37ruI9T Wac5TJ3vTYMfsHRWzXl5kCKHPYT5p2RYqPgc74DvmXta.nr2lczApRfb6xng ES6L3REbSr80iakII.daBj1vSmQ8TFVCT_ZqjvMXKBYcZvQOApPQRGJvlbUB jw_cAkJe75lmPrhEucSrQ_3gYOvaj1pbInQ.dEZtHKZ3JINgkJL8zg0Ty3TJ i.qZBnqae5avBHySddwApFyzhffua4mJTszz.xV6KSzigKyvdL1vmArdFw.R 6Bm8ZVD8R8rGv.eQxoZcLBLMCRT6o X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,V2l0aCByZXNwZWN0LCBFbWlsZSwgaXQncyAqVGltKiBNdW5nZW5hc3QsIG5vdCBUb20uDQpUaGFua3MsDQpUaW0gTXVuZ2VuYXN0DQpFZGl0b3IvV3JpdGVyL1Byb29mcmVhZGVyOiB3d3cubGlua2VkaW4uY29tL2luL3RpbW11bmdlbmFzdA0KR3VpdGFyaXN0L0NvbXBvc2VyL1ZvY2FsaXN0OiB3d3cucmV2ZXJibmF0aW9uLmNvbS90aW1tdW5nZW5hc3QNCg0KDQotLS0gT24gTW9uLCAzLzQvMTMsIEVtaWxlIFRvYmVuZmVsZCAoYS5rLmEgRHIuIFQpIDxlbWlsZUBmb3J5b3VyaGVhZC5jb20.IHdyb3RlOg0KDQoBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.8.135.514 Message-ID: <1362493380.47285.YahooMailClassic@web84503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 06:23:00 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Mungenast Subject: correction Re: Doctor T in February and March To: DrTVideo@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Experimental Film Discussion List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120416 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 14:23:03 +0000 (UTC) With respect, Emile, it's *Tim* Mungenast, not Tom. Thanks, Tim Mungenast Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast --- On Mon, 3/4/13, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) w= rote: > From: Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) > Subject: Doctor T in February and March > To: DrTVideo@egroups.com > Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com,= Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, "Experime= ntal Film Discussion List" > Date: Monday, March 4, 2013, 11:06 PM > Hi folks, >=20 > I've got a very busy March. >=20 > March 9 at 8:30 PM=A0 brings Visual Music Live to Outpost > 186, with old friend and very special guest David > Rothenberg >=20 > Doctor T video mixing >=20 > featuring guest artist >=20 > David Rothenberg -- Nature Samples, Laptop, and Clarinet >=20 > and regular collaborators >=20 > Eric Crawley -- harpejji and Electronics > Tom Mungenast -- Electric Guitar, Electric Sitar, and > Electronics >=20 > ECM recording artist David Rothenberg has performed and > recorded on clarinet with Jan Bang, Scanner, Glen Velez, > Karl Berger, Peter Gabriel, Ray Phiri, and the Karnataka > College of Percussion.=A0 He has twelve CDs out under his > own name, including "On the Cliffs of the Heart," named one > of the top ten releases of 1995 by Jazziz magazine and "One > Dark Night I Left My Silent House,"=A0 a duet album with > pianist Marilyn Crispell, called "une petite miracle" by Le > Monde and named by The Village Voice one of the ten best CDs > of 2010. Rothenberg is the author of Why Birds Sing, book > and CD, published in seven languages and the subject of a > BBC television documentary. He is also the author of > numerous other books on music, art, and nature, including > Thousand Mile Song, about making music with whales, and > Survival of the Beautiful, about aesthetics in > evolution.=A0 Last spring he released a book and CD > called Bug Music, featuring the sounds of the entomological > world.=A0 You'll hear some of them tonight. >=20 > http://www.zeitgeist-outpost.org >=20 > March 10 8 PM=A0=A0=A0is a rescheduled Visual Music > Live event at Outpost 186 in Cambridge, featuring The > OUTPOST Band > Doctor T -- Video mixing > Eric Zinman --Drums > Andrea Pensado -- Electronics and voice > Michael Bloom=A0 -- Table Guitar and bouzouki > Rick Scott -- Keyboard >=20 > Improvisation to the outer limits. Expect the unexpected-:) >=20 > March 16 is my next "Moving with the Light" Concert and > Dance Jam at 119 Gallery in Lowell, with music by Eric > Crawley, Harpejji, and Rick Scott, keyboards and YOU -- > movement --=A0 All styles and skill levels welcome. > Moving with the Light is a monthly event at which improvised > movement, music, and video interact as equals -- each > responding to and respectful of the others. A video excerpt > from the February event can be seen at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D0= OV_wE_pY-c -- you may > need to click the link a few times. >=20 > The musicians will play improvised music suitable for > contact improvisation and other forms of gentle movement, > while I improvise imagery and all three of us react to the > dancers as well as to each other. >=20 > http://www.119gallery.org/ >=20 > Light and Motion,=A0 - Photography and video art by > Doctor T will be on display at 119 gallery in Lowell, Mar 19 > - Apr 13. The show will feature sumptuous 22 x 12 prints > from my Swirlies sequence. Some images from this sequence > can be seen at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157626713= 121989/ >=20 > The reception will be on Sunday, March 24 , from 3 - 6 PM, > with a concert to follow at 7:30. >=20 > -- "I rang a silent bell ..."=A0 -- Robert Hunter > "... cast your dancing spell my way, I promise to go under > it" -- Bob Dylan >=20 > My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06= /collections/72157603627170351/ >=20 >=20 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 6 11:10:22 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 72D311834CE; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 11:10:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rGXiyUAQ7zO9dQqvsfkfhb7e0TyR0RS+Kr6UBptHNpE=; b=DU0n2MoYKf1GL+3W72Wy7dX2lTXfvDymT9yA6ZMpBhZV7AupoIx2QKa//lbFLWHppQ 39Bli7hPMk5Uq+Sqn/4ivdlep0KpHkErdBvpeXBof065NRd+ABBuJfnQd9NJsLbS7xrb 1QtMDW2T81OZ+WU2mjG3OaX93Nu3xQtR71qyTdilad6Uc1ntOTfgkd1+v8Mbzk08BK65 IEOOCPZseJYTopEvCjTComXq3mN5CSD+ZGsZgVn62kqTc4RlwJPL69ZccEs5R1329qqh qQURv9qF8G8hoztsqwVl4gwvGBXw2G5+znWluTBrXnCFfLZKlbSoNpErcO097M6+/SrY Kg5Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.227.106 with SMTP id rz10mr21483623obc.78.1362568221553; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 03:10:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5135C1EC.6040609@tiscali.co.uk> References: <3871B364-56B4-46BA-832F-5D86402DD347@charter.net> <5135C1EC.6040609@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 06:10:21 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EFC-7 issues From: George Turcotte To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04451739d4481004d73fa2d6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120417 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 11:10:22 +0000 (UTC) --f46d04451739d4481004d73fa2d6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Excellent idea. Somehow my multi-tester went MIA - have sent out a search party - my brother loves to borrow tools without asking... Meantime, I tried this test. I plugged in a standard keyboard sustain pedal (yup, into the footpedal jack!), and tried both long and short presses... the Echoplex acknowledged that something was wanting to happen, but it sure didn't perform a record function... sound like brain damage? And if so, is there a schematic available anywhere? gt On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 4:59 AM, andy butler wrote: > > OK, if we rule out the switch. > > You can look at this:- > > http://www.loopers-delight.**com/tools/echoplex/FAQ6.html#**static > > > but there are other things you could check first. > > If you have a meter for resistance.. > plug lead into EFC-7 > hold down Rec > Check resistance across jack terminals, should be 0 ohms. > > > Also: > > Plug lead into EDP Footswitch jack. > Then see if you can trigger Rec by shorting the jack terminals. > > > Having done that we can tell if the EDP is faulty. > > If it is, then probably you'll need the assistance of a technician. > > > > > George Turcotte wrote: > >> Right - I only wish it was that simple... >> > > the problem with the switches is really common. > > It's still possible this is a switch issue from what you have said. > > > > andy > > > > > --f46d04451739d4481004d73fa2d6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Excellent idea. Somehow my multi-tester went MIA - have sent out a search p= arty - my brother loves to borrow tools without asking... Meantime, I tried= this test. I plugged in a standard keyboard sustain pedal (yup, into the f= ootpedal jack!), and tried both long and short presses... the Echoplex ackn= owledged that something was wanting to happen, but it sure didn't perfo= rm a record function...=A0

sound like brain damage? And if so, is there a schematic ava= ilable anywhere?

gt

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 4:59 AM, andy butler &l= t;akbutler@tisc= ali.co.uk> wrote:

OK, if we rule out the switch.

You can look at this:-

http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/echoplex/FAQ6= .html#static


but there are other things you could check first.

If you have a meter for resistance..
plug lead into EFC-7
hold down Rec
Check resistance across jack terminals, should be 0 ohms.


Also:

Plug lead into EDP Footswitch jack.
Then see if you can trigger Rec by shorting the jack terminals.


Having done that we can tell if the EDP is faulty.

If it is, then probably you'll need the assistance of a technician.



George Turcotte wrote:
Right - I only wish it was that simple...

the problem with the switches is really common.

It's still possible this is a switch issue from what you have said.



andy





--f46d04451739d4481004d73fa2d6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 6 17:47:22 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2645D1834CE; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 17:47:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VeMpFJ30eOXUakgOjyS++/mzR4ZqHGtNvFWrzIHWJzw=; b=mHKE8fIoS2On08VOUdt/I+SIOcsr5P04XpdTAJkLJQfm5RF5ZmZEDZGAWJYzIx8pvj MgcCfVlLD96KzfZ8+MaeVQv5bJs3oDd8cejnPbqLp/TFgt0hj0lBIRKDgNpcBDUC/m7O Ma/l/a/EJVHYwy+qICxhMqhmllBQXdjH8HZr1pq+PxXzlqrYMlCgWbsHt2Pmm7hvDHLQ eF4FkRVUIrGI2h0CYgVBeVdIvFt2DpKT6uopnryjehpQYaR5RJ0MueaViQgfkn+/38Ix j6NxHcVvK5CdSxmPSEioIFMfKgSCXnjTUipQ5fKzaNO8eQ05yDhs9pdBTCRr2LiVt1qP AsxA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.49.12.194 with SMTP id a2mr6405445qec.11.1362592041541; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 09:47:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9993F805-B969-45C0-B298-7318CAA393EF@baymoon.com> References: <9993F805-B969-45C0-B298-7318CAA393EF@baymoon.com> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 12:47:21 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Expression/volume pedals From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6787d29c4d1a04d7452e3e Resent-Message-ID: <1Yk22D.A.lbB.qE4NRB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120418 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 17:47:22 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b6787d29c4d1a04d7452e3e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks Bill, the Line 6 for the Space seems the way to go. I looked for Bespeco but have not found them for sale in the usual locations. I have found then used on ebay, etc. j On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 4:56 PM, William Walker wrote: > I use the EV-5's, because they seem to last a pretty long time and are > light weight. they have gotten pricey new, I have 4, (2 that I use for the > Gordius), plus a couple of line 6 exp pedals > ( hey Jeff Duke, my line 6 exp works with my eventide time factor as well > as the EV-5 does, go figure) as Andy said Bespeco stuff is similar and just > as good as far as i can tell. I have considered going to heavier duty > pedals like these guys make, > > http://missionengineering.com/product-category/expression-pedals/ > > coupled with this intriguing device they also make,so that I could use one > pedal to do the job of three. > > http://missionengineering.com/shop/expressionator-2/ > > for me something like this would clean up my floor space, but even then I > might still use an EV-5 as one of these mission expression pedals weigh > more than 3 EV-5 pedals, similar to a wah pedal in weight at 3.12 lbs > Bill > --047d7b6787d29c4d1a04d7452e3e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Bill, the Line 6 for the Space seems the way to go. I looked for Bes= peco but have not found them for sale in the usual locations. I have found = then used on ebay, etc.

j



On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 4:56 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.co= m> wrote:
I use the EV-5's, because they seem= to last a pretty long time and are light weight. they have gotten pricey n= ew, I have 4, (2 that I use for the Gordius), =A0plus a =A0couple of line 6= exp pedals
=A0( hey Jeff Duke, my line 6 exp works with my eventide time factor as wel= l as the EV-5 does, go figure) as Andy said Bespeco stuff is similar and ju= st as good as far as i can tell. I have considered going to =A0heavier duty= pedals like these guys make,


coupled with t= his intriguing device they also make,so that I could use one pedal to do th= e job of three.


=A0for me something like this would clea= n up my floor space, but even then I might still use an EV-5 as one of thes= e mission =A0expression pedals weigh more than 3 EV-5 pedals, similar to a = wah pedal in weight =A0at 3.12 lbs
=A0Bill

--047d7b6787d29c4d1a04d7452e3e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 00:36:15 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C2041834CE; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 00:36:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5137E0FE.50200@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 16:36:14 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" , LIVE LOOPING PROMO Subject: In Concert: LUCIO MENEGON, RICK WALKER, JOHN CONNELL, DAVID VAN BRINK Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000607040201010403020101" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120419 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 00:36:15 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000607040201010403020101 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit * Santa Cruz New Music Society Presents * AN EVENING OF NEW MUSIC* BOCCI's CELLAR (Santa Cruz, California) TUESDAY, MARCH 19th 8:00 p.m. (all ages + free admission) with: *LUCIO MENEGON (New York) JOHN CONNELL, RICK WALKER, DAVID VAN BRINK* Featuring artists who have had successful performances at past Y2K INTERNATIONAL LIVE LOOPING FESTIVALS. * **LUCIO MENEGON* is a NYC based guitarist, composer, collaborator and sonic artist. His work ranges from avant garde improvisation and instant composition to melodic song and instrumental composition. With general disregard for genre, Lucio freely mingles angular riffs, sheer noise and small sounds to creatively combine the interesting and appropriate. He has performed all over the globe as a solo artist, band member and in collaboration with artists such as Amy DeNio, David Grollman, Emily Hay, Brad Dutz, Nick Millevoi, Colin Fisher, Steve Norton, John Shiurba, Moe! Staiano, Kim Boekbinder, Ross Hammond, Danielle French, Richard Lainhart, Gunnar Madsen, Glenn Branca and Rhys Chatham. *RICK WALKER* is a Santa Cruz based Experimental musician, sound and performance video designer and professional percussionist/drummer/producer. He has headlined new music and live looping festivals in 15 countries and improvised in concert with Henry Kaiser, Robert Dick, Jeff Kaiser, Laurie Amat, Krispen Hartung and many others. * **JOHN CONNELL* is a Santa Cruz based musician who has been exploring modular synthesis and tiny electronic instruments. His music has dark roots with influences of Witch House, Sample Based Music and Dark Electronica. He had one of the most beautiful and unusual sets at this years past looping festival. *DAVID VAN BRINK* is a Santa Cruz based musicilan who blends intelligent minimalist electronica with fascinating prose poems. His set at this years' loop festival was one of the most original and interesting of past years. FREE!!!!!! OPEN TO ALL AGES and anyone with an Open Mind. Guests are encouraged to Donate what they can afford to the Artists who have put a lot of hard work and time into their performances --------------000607040201010403020101 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
  • Santa Cruz New Music Society Presents

    AN EVENING OF NEW MUSIC
    BOCCI's CELLAR (Santa Cruz, California)
    TUESDAY, MARCH 19th   8:00 p.m. (all ages + free admission)

    with:
    LUCIO MENEGON (New York) JOHN CONNELL,
    RICK WALKER, DAVID VAN BRINK

    Featuring artists who have had successful performances at 
    past Y2K INTERNATIONAL LIVE LOOPING FESTIVALS.

    LUCIO MENEGON is a NYC based guitarist, composer, collaborator and sonic artist. His work ranges from avant garde improvisation and instant composition to melodic song and instrumental composition. With general disregard for genre, Lucio freely mingles angular riffs, sheer noise and small sounds to creatively combine the interesting and appropriate. He has performed all over the globe as a solo artist, band member and in collaboration with artists such as Amy DeNio, David Grollman, Emily Hay, Brad Dutz, Nick Millevoi, Colin Fisher, Steve Norton, John Shiurba, Moe! Staiano, Kim Boekbinder, Ross Hammond, Danielle French, Richard Lainhart, Gunnar Madsen, Glenn Branca and Rhys Chatham.

    RICK WALKER is a Santa Cruz based Experimental musician, sound and performance video designer and professional percussionist/drummer/producer. He has headlined new music and live looping festivals in 15 countries and improvised in concert with Henry Kaiser, Robert Dick, Jeff Kaiser, Laurie Amat, Krispen Hartung and many others.

    JOHN CONNELL is a Santa Cruz based musician who has been exploring modular synthesis and tiny electronic instruments. His music has dark roots with influences of Witch House, Sample Based Music and Dark Electronica. He had one of the most beautiful and unusual sets at this years past looping festival.

    DAVID VAN BRINK is a Santa Cruz based musicilan who blends intelligent minimalist electronica with fascinating prose poems. His set at this years' loop festival was one of the most original and interesting of past years.

    FREE!!!!!! OPEN TO ALL AGES and anyone with an Open Mind.

    Guests are encouraged to Donate what they can afford to the Artists
    who have put a lot of hard work and time into their performances

--------------000607040201010403020101-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 01:36:08 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D51F01834CE; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 01:36:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=9H1VDRr5ojdTnurLpAUa6qBfyOuzupj8zOTRb1Gy1Cc=; b=TZgrVu0SwHirRT7sIoC9c5cxwM35xkOyki3zJAPYOjzlzhEdTCk7+YO1PoREHNC8DS WoSDZZqalNnlu7RmhDvknPh4r+U8k9t60ZUKAO6ZAe+4b2CXxbcbwdCdeVHWRTtjp1uo Gu/VQKTQ0Dl9I3HrkAhIDmtnFlWZ8BmTgUaK74fQEWKNZHu7uuQisBktyqtQbsVHqlCj u8mpI5qLdUsyehcsQU//xmqWmcSU3IyGPAwUrlmVftREU1qAg5grsXGTY8RL8EkTUD8W 9nALnUPlh2/W/2YsARvm7C2UwZGub5Jcdz+XuuAc/Vl23nt3y/rWs8svWbJK8zO3yTKU TgIg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.109.112 with SMTP id hr16mr26965043lab.38.1362620167421; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 17:36:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 10:36:07 +0900 Message-ID: Subject: interesting controller From: michael noble To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54eea700b04a804d74bbbcf Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120420 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 01:36:08 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec54eea700b04a804d74bbbcf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I know folks on this list are fans of interesting new and expressive controllers. Just came across this and from the short demo video it looks very cool: http://www.weareroli.com/ Anyone know anything more about this company or the controller? --bcaec54eea700b04a804d74bbbcf Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I know folks on this list are fans of interesting new and = expressive controllers. Just came across this and from the short demo video= it looks very cool:


Anyone know anything more about this compan= y or the controller?
--bcaec54eea700b04a804d74bbbcf-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 03:00:55 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 914A31834CF; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 03:00:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=8QfT2QmAMSAetn0Ikyx/gJUQJNyKFX4PonbtTdfaiiw=; b=m4hSnaPxdkYdTPANk6TREN42mulqzmbBrzVptkYXrDIRqIQC84rjRrXmNWNaRuVkf1 zg5OGt3SQkzGSli0x7I2kSTBEhmontOTbclcEzTMlIsptakgq2mwv0XP6K22JSQYntKV Oc+hSk+2XjgE/yf9UV/1TFlQUsKAugpA5TsrRfXRR540XrrLT7krAnQkKNTdYMNRhEZb YQHHBf8RrIsZE1gYOEzJ4o+aDS1o7gu8m/TOH/1fDQhpLbYqhkR07yQ78vyxdG0cs+Sz 9jFgUKgX2CvfBij+rq887bG6/SadxxrT0JQ6f0nzwkPibbnJL7fxMiBUC5zBn+3YcKbb zMlg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.47.242 with SMTP id g18mr26803261lan.42.1362625253897; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 19:00:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 19:00:53 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: interesting controller From: Richard Sales To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec5540422387ba904d74cea76 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnLP7TADv6HdZPf2CQw95UzRK3j+byJLoeWqTQHtesWlut/vUnHn6pC3PbczeX9FBxujAJZ Resent-Message-ID: <4nCnlB.A.uNF.nLAORB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120421 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 03:00:55 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec5540422387ba904d74cea76 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It's like the Continuum, which I've been lusting after for a couple years. Cool stuff. -- richard sales www.glasswing.com On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 5:36 PM, michael noble wrote: > I know folks on this list are fans of interesting new and expressive > controllers. Just came across this and from the short demo video it looks > very cool: > > http://www.weareroli.com/ > > Anyone know anything more about this company or the controller? > --bcaec5540422387ba904d74cea76 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's like the Continuum, which I've been lusting after for a couple= years. Cool stuff.
--=A0
richard sales
www.glasswing.com

On Wed,= Mar 6, 2013 at 5:36 PM, michael noble <looplog@gmail.com> w= rote:
I know folks on this list a= re fans of interesting new and expressive controllers. Just came across thi= s and from the short demo video it looks very cool:


Anyone know anything more about this company or t= he controller?






--bcaec5540422387ba904d74cea76-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 03:17:09 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 873961834CF; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 03:17:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Y9n3Awu679rXUODlsovjcQgegrV/dKG5VoS6wk/PR4o=; b=fj2OacGhkcQfyWgnc1kGYPvSSEDnyEhscRL+mENYd1WTlOI1nm5/cOkcdm18vfzh9e DivUUgPSMJAdaUlzRF87oBhwwivC7HNnJjS4RiRtPj5APzG04Z+vWW42CNRlxqxZtvyO nig2u/0GtC0kxLw3BSpJneKjRTk7WOel18NHsKIhkcOx6Nw9trmaRmrrrAiQOEKSFRB6 uoZ9pmvms0eAuuUVV71jxyCYXLALSYjBl8QuMRYSyMP3xYHBSmojwUHMlh3wTqkvUGrH 3F/oavd5v/f08lQTYeVcpgqObcp/crLXa0YXvdU0ADFjVOd1neUbqBUIHE9YuzjFQwPY e96Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.204.130.22 with SMTP id q22mr12161064bks.44.1362626228162; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 19:17:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 11:17:08 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: interesting controller From: abd halimski To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015173fe4ec4ac5dd04d74d24c7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120422 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 03:17:09 +0000 (UTC) --0015173fe4ec4ac5dd04d74d24c7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 one sexy midi controller On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:36 AM, michael noble wrote: > I know folks on this list are fans of interesting new and expressive > controllers. Just came across this and from the short demo video it looks > very cool: > > http://www.weareroli.com/ > > Anyone know anything more about this company or the controller? > --0015173fe4ec4ac5dd04d74d24c7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable one sexy midi controller

On Thu, Mar 7, 2= 013 at 9:36 AM, michael noble <looplog@gmail.com> wrote:
=
I know folks on this list are fans of interesting new and = expressive controllers. Just came across this and from the short demo video= it looks very cool:


Anyone know anything more about this company or t= he controller?

--0015173fe4ec4ac5dd04d74d24c7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 04:01:57 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A3291834CE; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 04:01:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=dIr+A5lb c=1 sm=1 a=UncmS/Am0Fgh8c8TZh5eWA==:17 a=mytP6DDKh6wA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=-SOWJROGnzgA:10 a=kZCaSYHnAAAA:8 a=Imu4i02UQIYis5VLqYUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=UncmS/Am0Fgh8c8TZh5eWA==:117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: OT Studio (Was Re: interesting controller ) From: Ted Killian In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 19:45:53 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <756584AA-0E52-41FB-9150-856963F0D016@charter.net> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120423 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 04:01:57 +0000 (UTC) Wow! Nice studio Richard! On Mar 6, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Richard Sales wrote: > richard sales > www.glasswing.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 04:16:20 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 398271834CE; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 04:16:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xjCrNzwfZyX3/Yxz5pMr3VoHlMSNQpQpi+qZ2AMM3Gc=; b=YwE/UasPXWrwdeiXYRvwTULjoJnU/iQ12DywuB/p5YMAEDWuI/HrvjEJCAK7TVrqvd tOAjDidxFKHIzY0N5O0PLpGThNWSPxUqGg8/LL2xb6oNtCSaB3e2xZuH2p+xJw6YXNBJ G3ozUbZcfOygaJCKegTWNCkPGjzFG4cXwiTgDtyGIqvYp6Y/P+/Xm7xc0wFTktWyy1MI PDZ8oAeFB8CSocIFTgRv2SkkA0Rd5AN9W+8fvQB6USlLD2VAwATpCAmjrDCMdOWn/diV sJM99U7rbQRIVkSUe+0eIkfCYvFtF7wldoSwRyDevtWE8oifwCICkrBfE8UsNPQH9VAy BZ3Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.46.133 with SMTP id v5mr13117042igm.94.1362629779332; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 20:16:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 20:16:19 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: interesting controller From: Todd Elliott To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9340a39f5267e04d74df796 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120424 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 04:16:20 +0000 (UTC) --14dae9340a39f5267e04d74df796 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Only they are not making as many of these as there are continuums. They're making 88 of them, which makes me believe it's going to cost like, a lot. T On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 7:00 PM, Richard Sales wrote: > It's like the Continuum, which I've been lusting after for a couple years. > Cool stuff. > -- > richard sales > www.glasswing.com > > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 5:36 PM, michael noble wrote: > >> I know folks on this list are fans of interesting new and expressive >> controllers. Just came across this and from the short demo video it looks >> very cool: >> >> http://www.weareroli.com/ >> >> Anyone know anything more about this company or the controller? >> > > > > > > > -- http://toaster.bandcamp.com --14dae9340a39f5267e04d74df796 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Only they are not making as many of these as there are continuums. They'= ;re making 88 of them, which makes me believe it's going to cost like, = a lot.

T

On Wed, Mar 6= , 2013 at 7:00 PM, Richard Sales <richard@glasswing.com>= wrote:
It's like the Continuum, which I've = been lusting after for a couple years. Cool stuff.
--=A0
richard sales
www= .glasswing.com


On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 5:36 PM, michael noble <looplog@gm= ail.com> wrote:
I know folks on this list a= re fans of interesting new and expressive controllers. Just came across thi= s and from the short demo video it looks very cool:


Anyone know anything more about this company or t= he controller?









--
http://toaster.bandcamp.com
--14dae9340a39f5267e04d74df796-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 04:37:52 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 79FD91834CE; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 04:37:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=FHL3CwIxY5yHZsoCy7AAEL5ZIa04cYW98tt9yfvVCLY=; b=e68Mrc0bz8++r6oteUuQXain78Sjekxg39HQnXoBEmxfIPPcX0Ji5pDyG8d9nBm7pU uXx6Vr1hyG0vys+n8/gE9D3jcgYUNe+A8iGwfDUVWSNCHCCyMIQ7qxdcq1DBo0kdnRbq zGpI3As/lELzTDgZcxb4cwG1ZTs3K0bsyDR03gibAE+T0r5/uOtCxjcn2i2EmyG9uoS/ rp2AQ0afUTE4gxQlBt+7I/I08LwS/0QAkfKtZk8DnORnlR5tCFlYlWZ6Jgh+Aa/C8wue 5u9OpHPkTa5qQJ9yZLJZSqt36jFVRdyjPQwuPWSSlm6Ghr8EvrdNslG4bn5osFOIs3JQ T57g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.123.194 with SMTP id mc2mr27344637lab.7.1362631070727; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 20:37:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <756584AA-0E52-41FB-9150-856963F0D016@charter.net> References: <756584AA-0E52-41FB-9150-856963F0D016@charter.net> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 20:37:50 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Studio (Was Re: interesting controller ) From: Richard Sales To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04426edaee567504d74e44a3 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlM3uBJYA5TTIG8/0PZC9m5VMjyQpG1b7gxAECP//eebcHVlEvoqwgzZavYkcxxVufkeWvQ Resent-Message-ID: <_E4X5.A.MRG.gmBORB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120425 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 04:37:52 +0000 (UTC) --f46d04426edaee567504d74e44a3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks Ted! I'm pretty happy with it now. Just did some brain surgery - installed a new (second) Mac Pro and Pro Tools HDX. It was a three week nightmare getting two Mac Pros to talk with each other. Now that it's working, it's cool as shit. In the middle of the surgery, it was terrifying. Using Vienna Ensemble Pro to make the second Mac be a Virtual Instrument slave for the new Mac Pro. Got Ivory pianos and Trilian bass. Really cool stuff. The upright in Trilian makes me feel like Charlie Mingus. Ivory makes me wanna play piano again. Anyhow, thanks Ted R On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Ted Killian wrote: > Wow! Nice studio Richard! > > On Mar 6, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Richard Sales wrote: > > > richard sales > > www.glasswing.com > > -- richard sales www.glasswing.com --f46d04426edaee567504d74e44a3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Ted! =A0
I'm pretty happy with it now.
Just did so= me brain surgery - installed a new (second) Mac Pro and Pro Tools HDX. =A0I= t was a three week nightmare getting two Mac Pros to talk with each other. = =A0Now that it's working, it's cool as shit. =A0In the middle of th= e surgery, it was terrifying. =A0

Using Vienna Ensemble Pro to make the second Mac be a V= irtual Instrument slave for the new Mac Pro. =A0Got Ivory pianos and Trilia= n bass. =A0Really cool stuff. =A0The upright in Trilian makes me feel like = Charlie Mingus. =A0Ivory makes me wanna play piano again.

Anyhow, thanks Ted

R

On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Ted Killian <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
Wow! Nice studio Richard!

On Mar 6, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Richard Sales wrote:

> richard sales
> www.glasswing.c= om




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--f46d04426edaee567504d74e44a3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 10:46:24 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9EDBC1834D0; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 10:46:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=B2WFPu8xcMIFodRXGdemoZpDl2LAUAaxrzP8lxoPCus=; b=TM2b6aPziFLF4tpv8Y0VgSygSzf9mg+5+cQpUjIF5KeDqvOluTezkFFP3JOW4v+y6Q xrqJQcGyZszZIyV6E1jIG2KdwsimWodVRHXyNq5wOiXTeek1aVM+C0+G1a15UEtFL3jP pcK2cmKY6guNK//RsPGUqUoHSn4VeH9msSANV0LkqlQdKdLX7mhD1/AZAix3usUF2EON V7SMFc+OSHu1P6WxMo6EfP93a+DOtcCJyxJw58xqbzMY0Qd/t5SOYdj9LVuCfPjqRMWt AYQczb3Jl5ECAVr4V3xKhUBsNA43DC90B23OjZ7aPQo8FtsPIsfrH5GXtKOTN1TGfXUW avLg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.33.167 with SMTP id s7mr11002175vdi.52.1362653183731; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 02:46:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <756584AA-0E52-41FB-9150-856963F0D016@charter.net> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 11:46:23 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Studio (Was Re: interesting controller ) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120426 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 10:46:24 +0000 (UTC) Cool to see the picture of the control room. Do you offer iso recording area as well? Nice to hear that you have the Vienna Ensemble Pro up and running, I've heard a lot of colleges talking very good about that solution, seems to be a very fast setup. Using LASS and Albino 3 Iceni here with a lot of bounce-in-place fixing and finding it fast enough for the small productions I usually do. But with 16 GB 1600 RAM on a MBP I'm touching the upper limit and a VEP investment may be required if I should suddenly get more work (meaning tighter schedule) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 5:37 AM, Richard Sales wrote: > Thanks Ted! > I'm pretty happy with it now. > Just did some brain surgery - installed a new (second) Mac Pro and Pro Tools > HDX. It was a three week nightmare getting two Mac Pros to talk with each > other. Now that it's working, it's cool as shit. In the middle of the > surgery, it was terrifying. > > Using Vienna Ensemble Pro to make the second Mac be a Virtual Instrument > slave for the new Mac Pro. Got Ivory pianos and Trilian bass. Really cool > stuff. The upright in Trilian makes me feel like Charlie Mingus. Ivory > makes me wanna play piano again. > > Anyhow, thanks Ted > > R > > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Ted Killian wrote: >> >> Wow! Nice studio Richard! >> >> On Mar 6, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Richard Sales wrote: >> >> > richard sales >> > www.glasswing.com >> > > > > -- > richard sales > www.glasswing.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 11:15:42 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB3601834D0; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 11:15:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fJC7rtpmHGFYPKLcmpDhW8WKY3qeUsoTBJGJR3EWT6U=; b=tlHIgbLMoyY5HgrK30XgYOH8gBc3Qihuc5OcKfBX4HAG262fE1QzT89mbppKZCXzmG t3ze8aQJ68WbF2NJguCuox2cykNzKF1trBb2rPL2SDSF6cue5c2DqpQdi9AgXdfXA4fc cHjmlDFJHd+gWC73ZoLG9DH9pub48yNy3NPFmAzr5KdHJmXpjoveV5H1JrI1ER6Ualei ItzCPGEXijO+7ubC5QHa2UgAjGn0OVB90215A3HFAuvc7n7VsBPx0hd8JlfYfGHyv69o obbN2IBloo7kOyk2vF5n0e7epF4NB+zM2OG9rYUjW/tE36g/pMTjeaUfYjlD0QdD/Fkh BzCA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.221.10.14 with SMTP id oy14mr12589348vcb.34.1362654942010; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 03:15:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 12:15:41 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: interesting controller From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <_AifJC.A.27.ebHORB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120427 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 11:15:42 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:36 AM, michael noble wrote: > http://www.weareroli.com/ > > Anyone know anything more about this company or the controller? Looks cool, like a "piano submarine" :-) A little thin on information that page, isn't it? From the video it seems as notes are located in linear way, similar to a piano? I must say I'm more intrigued by Ableton's new instrument Push, due to its non linear location of notes. The chromatic scale layout on Push is based on rows differing by a fourths and this creates what to me seems to very playable note locations. In fact, the hand patterns are the same as if tapping a fourths tuned fretted string instrument. Another aspect I like with the Push is that some notes appear at several positions and can be played in unison but with different attack/expression, this too in common with fretted string instruments. I've been using an Akai EWI4000s for some years and think it is the most (musically) expressive MIDI controller instruments I've come across. Since it is based on breath control rather than hitting-something-with-a-hand velocity it a challenge to program good synth patches to play. I think Yamaha was great in the 80s with breath control but since then not much product development seems to have happend im this area. THat's odd, thinking about how a simple hose to blow into increases the expressiveness of any simple keyboard. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 12:00:50 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 818BF1834D1; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 12:00:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 12:00:43 +0000 From: Philip Conway To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Expression/volume pedals Message-ID: <38A5A102F7C53ED04C38B574@epi-pc372.epi.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <21795408.1362441611192.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <21795408.1362441611192.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Originator-Info: login-token=Mulberry:01/UxvRW2vp3f7f7WuPnKw1LM8et6oK2154rc+e9etM3B60Kj2wuA=; token_authority=mailto:postmaster@bristol.ac.uk X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120428 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 12:00:50 +0000 (UTC) Yikes! That's a bit out of my price range for an expression pedal. Certainly looks well made though. Thanks to everyone for their comments and suggestions. I think I'll persevere with the EP2 and see how it goes. If I see a decent quality volume pedal going second hand I might pick it up to see how well it works with the Gordius. Philip. --On 04 March 2013 18:00 -0600 Grant wrote: > If money is no object, > > http://www.tpa-az.com/page2.htm > > G > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 12:07:06 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E3F371834D5; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 12:07:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1362658025; bh=WXRSmWxkI48M7L/6oxJyXNG6H7F5/mIaKojepcyxgQo=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Date:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Message-Id:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer; b=Ws0p+V21Y/yce4FJoTZRcmkXUz6K1sSql5ICF4TInNOXEwtW3vaapttLy6gSB/sCHo6vj2Wbu1IW/mv6uxRBnEIFLdJHCl1dRYka4qBXiRzOGznC3WaKaE1/1BOkL7Z/hPpGJWj/JmeDuJe8Cfpg/v+gzi7VyvQn+ZQ+6OsKi5Y= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 263904.52317.bm@smtp131.mail.ird.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: zHw.xUMVM1mYfjIXf_kXAD_LPtm7O7zHICchdx_Z8h_PqGp gM70W9Cl_dzGwMifci7Ya68edzkmyWheFDeT4mcpo.1cMz.ri6Wcg.lSIT5Z ekrqcjoc.2steo23xqqGCdElT6AUnuztHm96.8dCfAxGRo8U9BKchffxWar_ t2njMf35bHRSRfwK8W8bjt0rMn.9qp.7bgMqfXtpl80Vq9jD47pOwPW2HHUv W8RYgqyq9b0.wxaDEKAX6Zn9UMAljR79y6UsvBgASnP4UTVZkq70BGVrrdYa UzBCSE3RJlq4QmMvIz_gUiQSL9rcnD4yrLJI.VuLi_ixRRKYl3eHjBvZvR29 qWiZvH4tuCz257_0mBuhxp6eKVBotzdTc_5GB_l586uLOIL_HDMdpyPyYfSg lpp3Wx93yM.dBdp07KQHQ6Xj4MK3XIje6_mPHMprAJs6ZLlVaW5rA5e.Oqa1 pSHWEE6ro_PxiU1pRB24AHCTsSyicLUzlVaxiGmmLImZF9pKntrBEdq_uOwj 2gAGySSc_nqg5RveS6yw3UXEpY070DsdDpoImFrftMMtdJuS2ucjuM5hUtIn XO6SOE2l47jNkVjzHKbWBjOulsCULAQ9kT.CyM0TONk317cOgbzrxTmhTMDB iFX3NIIF1OTStBobeZY3e X-Yahoo-SMTP: 75CdczOswBChen.W3AbLhaW8TlC96TVo5w-- From: Ben To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 13:07:05 +0100 Subject: Re: interesting controller In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <20130307130705.34AA3768.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: nPOPuk Ver 2.16 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120429 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 12:07:06 +0000 (UTC) Hi Per, > > I must say I'm more intrigued by Ableton's new instrument Push, due to > its non linear location of notes. The chromatic scale layout on Push > is based on rows differing by a fourths and this creates what to me > seems to very playable note locations. In fact, the hand patterns are > the same as if tapping a fourths tuned fretted string instrument. > Another aspect I like with the Push is that some notes appear at > several positions and can be played in unison but with different > attack/expression, this too in common with fretted string instruments. > In fact, it seems you can change the layout, too There 's a nice review here on CDM: http://createdigitalmusic.com/2013/03/push-in-depth-test-whats-it-like-playing-the-new-hardware-from-ableton/ Ben. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 12:11:24 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 58B6B1834D2; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 12:11:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lFkdinJ4OAiTftb1zQHNw0ynjLgOF1JhjZkrQxeVbUs=; b=tNvqzkNL7R0fIElMIyvDg8wTpC9EzHrmoUKHeEaSH5Rr75pwgdtqJYTT8g78NfZaid tcfb6r3n6GFD3oEB7xz8vnBWvvSJKesyjipGAyxtGFX26+cb/k52147IK+bIxO5zjpI7 cge+XeDn3fPav8sKDqKVJ0WWcwVWUqwhyHL9GfUiyYPy1NPwAOUm4nCiaoSkYFaGkNMX ETcTl6GQ1ORsDYkryqDytICHZLxlRxo6JcRaka3MmYd+otvbhPzDj+qIiZHCp7O1Z36K 1SInyYQasTut09EH+MwEgqBCERoKe54Hxv11XHN+xBY0K6xaRdq6GzqLtxRfbyxubHEo 1XqA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.248.11 with SMTP id me11mr11953084vcb.26.1362658283781; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 04:11:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130307130705.34AA3768.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> References: <20130307130705.34AA3768.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 13:11:23 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: interesting controller From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120430 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 12:11:24 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Ben wrote: > In fact, it seems you can change the layout, too Certainly! I just mentioned the chromatic layout because I think it is so useful in the Push. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 12:58:56 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D44EF1834CF; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 12:58:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 12:58:51 +0000 From: Philip Conway To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: interesting controller/Ableton Push Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Originator-Info: login-token=Mulberry:01dTRcc+WXlKVzZ6LctuqYweG0YsvWo+Vhz+W2Y8Tbq+hivdZuqs0=; token_authority=mailto:postmaster@bristol.ac.uk X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <2X0e7.A.w2B.Q8IORB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120431 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 12:58:56 +0000 (UTC) I pre-ordered Push yesterday. It's a sizable lump of money for a controller - especially one that I haven't been able to try out first hand - but I couldn't resist the introductory offer. It'll be here in just 12-14 weeks!... I'm quite excited about its potential as an instrument. One appealing thing is that, if the early reviews are to be believed, it is very well made and feels heavy and solid. This is no small thing for a musical instrument. It's much easier to 'lose yourself' and get into 'the zone', as they say, if you're playing something that just feels solid and high quality, rather than flimsy and plasticy. And, for me, whether or not you can 'lose yourself' in an instrument is ultimately the marker of whether it's any good or not. In many ways Push makes much more sense than a traditional keyboard for performing and composing electronic music since it allows any scalar mapping of notes and makes that mapping intuitive by providing visual feedback. In this way it seems to let the player find relationships between notes and sounds that don't rigidly adhere to the c-major scale structure of the piano-style keyboard. This is how it should be for electronic music, which is not being limited to the physical mechanisms of objects like the piano. The piano keyboard was an elegant invention but it resulted to some degree from the physical requirements of whacking strings with little hammers. Electronic music is completely free from such physical connections but, with some expensive exceptions (e.g. the Haken Continuum), instrument or interface design has lagged a long way behind what programmers and sound designers have achieved. Push looks like a step in the right direction in that respect. It's not revolutionary in concept but it appears to have been very well done - at least I hope so! Philip. --On 07 March 2013 12:15 +0100 Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:36 AM, michael noble wrote: >> http://www.weareroli.com/ >> >> Anyone know anything more about this company or the controller? > > > Looks cool, like a "piano submarine" :-) A little thin on information > that page, isn't it? From the video it seems as notes are located in > linear way, similar to a piano? > > I must say I'm more intrigued by Ableton's new instrument Push, due to > its non linear location of notes. The chromatic scale layout on Push > is based on rows differing by a fourths and this creates what to me > seems to very playable note locations. In fact, the hand patterns are > the same as if tapping a fourths tuned fretted string instrument. > Another aspect I like with the Push is that some notes appear at > several positions and can be played in unison but with different > attack/expression, this too in common with fretted string instruments. > > I've been using an Akai EWI4000s for some years and think it is the > most (musically) expressive MIDI controller instruments I've come > across. Since it is based on breath control rather than > hitting-something-with-a-hand velocity it a challenge to program good > synth patches to play. I think Yamaha was great in the 80s with breath > control but since then not much product development seems to have > happend im this area. THat's odd, thinking about how a simple hose to > blow into increases the expressiveness of any simple keyboard. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 13:48:10 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73FE81834CD; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 13:48:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/MI0BbjjcNQaR5HApBktCPUK1HOMqnKGoEB63+Jw/6Y=; b=VmK2gI2EBq99Ud1z/D6ZR7S6RPyApbwTdrxe+XxHnqsStNY71PPdAle0VQoglARTEb T7yY2TAI31D5Zn+jmJfayCmE2vdvsPlsBQhdvDkit7CYPmDev9zbmsutcgIPXHsNd/D9 VCiQdSap4YcJAwX5W6cjHkaz9g4cba+yCeLSy/ISKJ0BPAB63MDICJNLdc8LzOV4lruy wwbVqWvbA625zFTL7DGPuNHp/hE9/ofHrHXxbpHYpwWB+Z8bvhtahf3X93FCed/LsZnm oBJt92ONNlVs8Hl+y1Fhx8NbfartfHXRyWnJ5GE55WDPS7hUwe1a4pSsQub9MNY9rwmo JKMg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.31.103 with SMTP id z7mr11333857vdh.56.1362664089881; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 05:48:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 14:48:09 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: interesting controller/Ableton Push From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120432 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 13:48:10 +0000 (UTC) Hey everybody, a big hand for Phil - the pioneering pusher on this mailing list! :-) Looking forward to hear about your first impressions. If I had the money I too would pick one up right now on the intro deal. Per On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Philip Conway wrote: > I pre-ordered Push yesterday. It's a sizable lump of money for a controller > - especially one that I haven't been able to try out first hand - but I > couldn't resist the introductory offer. It'll be here in just 12-14 > weeks!... > > I'm quite excited about its potential as an instrument. One appealing thing > is that, if the early reviews are to be believed, it is very well made and > feels heavy and solid. This is no small thing for a musical instrument. > It's much easier to 'lose yourself' and get into 'the zone', as they say, if > you're playing something that just feels solid and high quality, rather than > flimsy and plasticy. And, for me, whether or not you can 'lose yourself' in > an instrument is ultimately the marker of whether it's any good or not. > > In many ways Push makes much more sense than a traditional keyboard for > performing and composing electronic music since it allows any scalar mapping > of notes and makes that mapping intuitive by providing visual feedback. In > this way it seems to let the player find relationships between notes and > sounds that don't rigidly adhere to the c-major scale structure of the > piano-style keyboard. > > This is how it should be for electronic music, which is not being limited to > the physical mechanisms of objects like the piano. The piano keyboard was > an elegant invention but it resulted to some degree from the physical > requirements of whacking strings with little hammers. Electronic music is > completely free from such physical connections but, with some expensive > exceptions (e.g. the Haken Continuum), instrument or interface design has > lagged a long way behind what programmers and sound designers have achieved. > > Push looks like a step in the right direction in that respect. It's not > revolutionary in concept but it appears to have been very well done - at > least I hope so! > > > > Philip. > > > --On 07 March 2013 12:15 +0100 Per Boysen wrote: > >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:36 AM, michael noble wrote: >>> >>> http://www.weareroli.com/ >>> >>> Anyone know anything more about this company or the controller? >> >> >> >> Looks cool, like a "piano submarine" :-) A little thin on information >> that page, isn't it? From the video it seems as notes are located in >> linear way, similar to a piano? >> >> I must say I'm more intrigued by Ableton's new instrument Push, due to >> its non linear location of notes. The chromatic scale layout on Push >> is based on rows differing by a fourths and this creates what to me >> seems to very playable note locations. In fact, the hand patterns are >> the same as if tapping a fourths tuned fretted string instrument. >> Another aspect I like with the Push is that some notes appear at >> several positions and can be played in unison but with different >> attack/expression, this too in common with fretted string instruments. >> >> I've been using an Akai EWI4000s for some years and think it is the >> most (musically) expressive MIDI controller instruments I've come >> across. Since it is based on breath control rather than >> hitting-something-with-a-hand velocity it a challenge to program good >> synth patches to play. I think Yamaha was great in the 80s with breath >> control but since then not much product development seems to have >> happend im this area. THat's odd, thinking about how a simple hose to >> blow into increases the expressiveness of any simple keyboard. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.perboysen.com >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >> > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 14:12:22 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05A9F1834D0; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 14:12:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 14:12:17 +0000 From: Philip Conway To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: interesting controller/Ableton Push Message-ID: <021B1F34A17D4ABE386A9596@epi-pc372.epi.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: References: Originator-Info: login-token=Mulberry:01Ao5mfnLxnrAAwaznQ3fyy+xBvNXhMHK72fBDvc7mOHW8x+H7BNc=; token_authority=mailto:postmaster@bristol.ac.uk X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120433 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 14:12:21 +0000 (UTC) I'll be sure to let you all know when I get it ... in about three months! --On 07 March 2013 14:48 +0100 Per Boysen wrote: > Hey everybody, a big hand for Phil - the pioneering pusher on this > mailing list! :-) Looking forward to hear about your first > impressions. > > If I had the money I too would pick one up right now on the intro deal. > > Per > > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Philip Conway > wrote: >> I pre-ordered Push yesterday. It's a sizable lump of money for a >> controller - especially one that I haven't been able to try out first >> hand - but I couldn't resist the introductory offer. It'll be here in >> just 12-14 weeks!... >> >> I'm quite excited about its potential as an instrument. One appealing >> thing is that, if the early reviews are to be believed, it is very well >> made and feels heavy and solid. This is no small thing for a musical >> instrument. It's much easier to 'lose yourself' and get into 'the zone', >> as they say, if you're playing something that just feels solid and high >> quality, rather than flimsy and plasticy. And, for me, whether or not >> you can 'lose yourself' in an instrument is ultimately the marker of >> whether it's any good or not. >> >> In many ways Push makes much more sense than a traditional keyboard for >> performing and composing electronic music since it allows any scalar >> mapping of notes and makes that mapping intuitive by providing visual >> feedback. In this way it seems to let the player find relationships >> between notes and sounds that don't rigidly adhere to the c-major scale >> structure of the piano-style keyboard. >> >> This is how it should be for electronic music, which is not being >> limited to the physical mechanisms of objects like the piano. The piano >> keyboard was an elegant invention but it resulted to some degree from >> the physical requirements of whacking strings with little hammers. >> Electronic music is completely free from such physical connections but, >> with some expensive exceptions (e.g. the Haken Continuum), instrument or >> interface design has lagged a long way behind what programmers and sound >> designers have achieved. >> >> Push looks like a step in the right direction in that respect. It's not >> revolutionary in concept but it appears to have been very well done - at >> least I hope so! >> >> >> >> Philip. >> >> >> --On 07 March 2013 12:15 +0100 Per Boysen wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:36 AM, michael noble wrote: >>>> >>>> http://www.weareroli.com/ >>>> >>>> Anyone know anything more about this company or the controller? >>> >>> >>> >>> Looks cool, like a "piano submarine" :-) A little thin on information >>> that page, isn't it? From the video it seems as notes are located in >>> linear way, similar to a piano? >>> >>> I must say I'm more intrigued by Ableton's new instrument Push, due to >>> its non linear location of notes. The chromatic scale layout on Push >>> is based on rows differing by a fourths and this creates what to me >>> seems to very playable note locations. In fact, the hand patterns are >>> the same as if tapping a fourths tuned fretted string instrument. >>> Another aspect I like with the Push is that some notes appear at >>> several positions and can be played in unison but with different >>> attack/expression, this too in common with fretted string instruments. >>> >>> I've been using an Akai EWI4000s for some years and think it is the >>> most (musically) expressive MIDI controller instruments I've come >>> across. Since it is based on breath control rather than >>> hitting-something-with-a-hand velocity it a challenge to program good >>> synth patches to play. I think Yamaha was great in the 80s with breath >>> control but since then not much product development seems to have >>> happend im this area. THat's odd, thinking about how a simple hose to >>> blow into increases the expressiveness of any simple keyboard. >>> >>> Greetings from Sweden >>> >>> Per Boysen >>> www.perboysen.com >>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >>> >> >> >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 15:24:14 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 846381834D0; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 15:24:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=gq4SOb7egkfDax/vzTGfI9BjvfjEBscBtBovjgIb+NM=; b=A89Ar6imyAMUFl0wgxHU/lPtHn5LybpCENVFuyx6E5lq88HWAqyWOFtGumMtHXx456 GuSxqOoUR1fsJJ2uVgOOslprQmsF8SPIiSs+TKtB3d/WVYnYC91/OYc+KAnHmDGgUQzz y6pcWH/qijpaXggegvn4fs2R8i4EnsEhYjLaVPexVyMmmvLCDbgfTkQzC+EzLKCAsa2E +IWjRxVKj3yyBOP1MQi3s1uN0gYvQON273d3cqjceeb1ZMgh2XFYRxdgopsicwfa8P46 B1WYPEK4xvk7E8PZw0z9ZeNy2Lun/O25W9qCeJmIOEI4rZwrrLrhMGMWlSPrCNy4N473 UjDQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.181.11.198 with SMTP id ek6mr38871544wid.1.1362669852919; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 07:24:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <756584AA-0E52-41FB-9150-856963F0D016@charter.net> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 07:24:12 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Studio (Was Re: interesting controller ) From: Richard Sales To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043c084a87a48e04d7574cd4 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmrwPbXqH0uI5usF/NY3fibp/i5DoATn7WSC76DMGsletZ4IC++e3g6qz6W6R1Z/wWejzaC Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120434 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 15:24:14 +0000 (UTC) --f46d043c084a87a48e04d7574cd4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 First, sorry about my email last night. The language just didn't feel right. Didn't feel friendly enough. My wife walked in while I was writing and I hurried to get it done. Yea, I have one big room now and working on two more. Current iso room is 13X29. Going to add the back room of the studio this summer - which is ROUGHLY 29X29 and then a vocal/amp room (also my library) which is ROUGHLY 12X12. I really love the 12' ceilings. The back room, if all works as planned, will also be a place where we can hold small concerts. Don't know yet, but I think it could hold maybe 40-50 people and a small stage. I want to tie it to the studio so I can record performances there. The current iso room is more suited to amps, acoustic guitars, small ensembles. Truth is, I hate recording drums and usually take drum sessions elsewhere... but when the big room is done I might try to work up the courage to try drums again. All construction has slowed a bit because I have a torn rotator cuff. There's a photo of the current iso room in this slide show here http://www.glasswing.com/glasswingstudiod.html It's funky, but sounds great. Vienna Ensemble Pro should be easy and would probably be easy for you. Intelligence helps! But the manual has a lot of holes in it. Fortunately Paul, the support guy, is very good, very patient. I find, in general, German companies make really great software and write very thin manuals. But then, Spectrasonics' manual is nothing to write home about either. Thank heaven for www.groove3.com! I've read of a lot of guys who use VEP to extend the life of older computers. The 64 bit business is cool as shit (Pro Tools is still 32 bit). I have Ivory, Trilian, Slate Platinum and Vienna Epic Orchestra running there and it's hardly breaking a RAM/CPU sweat. 28 gigs of RAM on the Vienna Ensemble Pro machine. 32 on the new one. I now think that's sort of overkill. I haven't, and I suspect because Avid hasn't, ironed all the bugs out of Pro Tools 10.3 and Mountain Lion yet. Damn! I've never even heard of LASS and Albino 3 Iceni. I'll do some homework on that today. I've heard Reaper can be good for doing the Master/Slave machine setup too. Not doing much looping lately, but I still read EVERY looper email daily. Great info. Smart guys. Thanks Ted, Per Richard www.glasswing.com On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:46 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Cool to see the picture of the control room. Do you offer iso > recording area as well? Nice to hear that you have the Vienna Ensemble > Pro up and running, I've heard a lot of colleges talking very good > about that solution, seems to be a very fast setup. Using LASS and > Albino 3 Iceni here with a lot of bounce-in-place fixing and finding > it fast enough for the small productions I usually do. But with 16 GB > 1600 RAM on a MBP I'm touching the upper limit and a VEP investment > may be required if I should suddenly get more work (meaning tighter > schedule) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 5:37 AM, Richard Sales > wrote: > > Thanks Ted! > > I'm pretty happy with it now. > > Just did some brain surgery - installed a new (second) Mac Pro and Pro > Tools > > HDX. It was a three week nightmare getting two Mac Pros to talk with > each > > other. Now that it's working, it's cool as shit. In the middle of the > > surgery, it was terrifying. > > > > Using Vienna Ensemble Pro to make the second Mac be a Virtual Instrument > > slave for the new Mac Pro. Got Ivory pianos and Trilian bass. Really > cool > > stuff. The upright in Trilian makes me feel like Charlie Mingus. Ivory > > makes me wanna play piano again. > > > > Anyhow, thanks Ted > > > > R > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Ted Killian > wrote: > >> > >> Wow! Nice studio Richard! > >> > >> On Mar 6, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Richard Sales wrote: > >> > >> > richard sales > >> > www.glasswing.com > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > richard sales > > www.glasswing.com > > > > > > -- richard sales www.glasswing.com --f46d043c084a87a48e04d7574cd4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable First, sorry about my email last night. =A0The language just didn't fee= l right. =A0Didn't feel friendly enough. =A0My wife walked in while I w= as writing and I hurried to get it done.

Yea, I have one= big room now and working on two more. =A0Current iso room is 13X29. =A0Goi= ng to add the back room of the studio this summer - which is ROUGHLY 29X29 = and then a vocal/amp room (also my library) which is ROUGHLY 12X12. =A0I re= ally love the 12' ceilings. =A0=A0

The back room, if all works as planned, will also be a = place where we can hold small concerts. =A0Don't know yet, but I think = it could hold maybe 40-50 people and a small stage. =A0I want to tie it to = the studio so I can record performances there. =A0

The current iso room is more suited to amps, acoustic g= uitars, small ensembles. =A0Truth is, I hate recording drums and usually ta= ke drum sessions elsewhere... but when the big room is done I might try to = work up the courage to try drums again.

All construction has slowed a bit because I have a torn= rotator cuff.=A0

There's a photo of the curre= nt iso room in this slide show here

It's funky, but sounds great.

<= div>Vienna Ensemble Pro should be easy and would probably be easy for you. = =A0Intelligence helps! But the manual has a lot of holes in it. =A0Fortunat= ely Paul, the support guy, is very good, very patient. =A0I find, in genera= l, German companies make really great software and write very thin manuals.= =A0But then, Spectrasonics' manual is nothing to write home about eith= er. =A0Thank heaven for www.groove3.com<= /a>!

I've read of a lot of guys who use VEP to extend th= e life of older computers. =A0The 64 bit business is cool as shit (Pro Tool= s is still 32 bit). =A0I have Ivory, Trilian, Slate Platinum and Vienna Epi= c Orchestra running there and it's hardly breaking a RAM/CPU sweat.=A0<= /div>

28 gigs of RAM on the Vienna Ensemble Pro machine. =A03= 2 on the new one. =A0I now think that's sort of overkill.
I haven't, and I suspect because Avid hasn't, ironed al= l the bugs out of Pro Tools 10.3 and Mountain Lion yet.

Damn! =A0I've never even heard of LASS and Albino 3= Iceni. =A0I'll do some homework on that today. =A0I've heard Reape= r can be good for doing the Master/Slave machine setup too.

<= /div>
Not doing much looping lately, but I still read EVERY looper email dai= ly. =A0Great info. =A0Smart guys.=A0

Thanks Ted, P= er

Richard
www.glasswing.com

On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:46 AM, Per Boysen <= span dir=3D"ltr"><perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Cool to see the picture of the control room. Do you offer iso
recording area as well? Nice to hear that you have the Vienna Ensemble
Pro up and running, I've heard a lot of colleges talking very good
about that solution, seems to be a very fast setup. Using LASS and
Albino 3 Iceni here with a lot of bounce-in-place fixing and finding
it fast enough for the small productions I usually do. But with 16 GB
1600 RAM on a MBP I'm touching the upper limit and a VEP investment
may be required if I should suddenly get more work (meaning tighter
schedule)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.y= outube.com/perboysen


On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 5:37 AM, Richard Sales <richard@glasswing.com> wrote:
> Thanks Ted!
> I'm pretty happy with it now.
> Just did some brain surgery - installed a new (second) Mac Pro and Pro= Tools
> HDX. =A0It was a three week nightmare getting two Mac Pros to talk wit= h each
> other. =A0Now that it's working, it's cool as shit. =A0In the = middle of the
> surgery, it was terrifying.
>
> Using Vienna Ensemble Pro to make the second Mac be a Virtual Instrume= nt
> slave for the new Mac Pro. =A0Got Ivory pianos and Trilian bass. =A0Re= ally cool
> stuff. =A0The upright in Trilian makes me feel like Charlie Mingus. = =A0Ivory
> makes me wanna play piano again.
>
> Anyhow, thanks Ted
>
> R
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Ted Killian <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>> Wow! Nice studio Richard!
>>
>> On Mar 6, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Richard Sales wrote:
>>
>> > richard sales
>> > www.gl= asswing.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> richard sales
> www.glasswing.c= om
>
>




--
= richard sales
www.glasswing.com=


--f46d043c084a87a48e04d7574cd4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 15:24:17 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F230B1834CE; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 15:24:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=U5/h1ZQereqvnd+eXT04zvLCThd2Y3aTAjPO/+XRreE=; b=H3wGg1/6ICg+/SQMQRQOLERIMmqkhy9TAmdyQf+2CHEvL6YANTf1K0wGUgcdRr0q7E 2opMlQciQuK6xON8CYdVR7nPfwal0o5udAFS+S5nKpDqcRKqS7nIW4Mi2m2PfyLB73T2 qoBFKzCi90H0TnhiL8hRy2G8LHL6A+TQbYD7gmrVacoxL5UUVT4ZWvNh18qttD1sRvr6 TuvZOmbLry6Cmn/yyDtxgv9NZHlI6/zSzu+hXwrNaOPB9QURRTL966jnLguIc2ilb/1O xkb8qiqNykTJsf/+TtWu1Esssu1lXQMOSWiC6UjBuFXmJYSBgJdwvNqMiXnQpZ2koiCO QKjA== X-Received: by 10.112.13.136 with SMTP id h8mr9156868lbc.4.1362669855659; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 07:24:15 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <021B1F34A17D4ABE386A9596@epi-pc372.epi.bris.ac.uk> References: <021B1F34A17D4ABE386A9596@epi-pc372.epi.bris.ac.uk> From: todd reynolds Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 10:23:35 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: interesting controller/Ableton Push To: "Looper's Delight" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04016803b1663e04d7574c43 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120435 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 15:24:16 +0000 (UTC) --f46d04016803b1663e04d7574c43 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Philip=85 I can assure you, it DOES feel like a tank, heavy and solid as you've described. The pads, however are super responsive to velocity and the different keyboard modes and scales are fantastic. I can also say that though the controller is really complete already, I know they'll be pushing (no pun intended) software updates to make it even better. I'm a Maschine user and though I won't sell that thing off anytime soon, PUSH takes what NI did much further and better. I think you'll be very pleased based upon my own experience. congrats on your purchase!~ Thankfully months go by quickly these days, lol. T. --f46d04016803b1663e04d7574c43 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey Philip=85=A0

I can assure you= , it DOES feel like a tank, heavy and solid as you've described. =A0The= pads, however are super responsive to velocity and the different keyboard = modes and scales are fantastic. I can also say that though the controller i= s really complete already, I know they'll be pushing (no pun intended) = software updates to make it even better. =A0I'm a Maschine user and tho= ugh I won't sell that thing off anytime soon, PUSH takes what NI did mu= ch further and better. I think you'll be very pleased based upon my own= experience. congrats on your purchase!~ =A0

Thankfully months go by quickly these days,= lol.=A0

T.



--f46d04016803b1663e04d7574c43-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 16:11:43 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B50C1834CF; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 16:11:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0nBhWsuTIwklypZNm3UtPXvj5zHD7N3Hdb8f+NLq6Y8=; b=aG1MjGgsXHVW9p4Mly/s+k0TqmraC1lNIB/dXOScPVvaO5604PUp8Xt5nA4MZ8XoZe gWRnVc+yuY2QAbWYYlpphfcHJNvH3Y1qNGjSsdifd3G0s9o3sS+iMy/yGQS9xD9WIwUP gvyHoHKgZgL5xKuD7ikZmbMs83DoHvbpOfFINM0W7Alni9MS7DYqbsyuH0q9E9rSuQWa oMKiqPXM52rdoztveovhwal5MX8f3aEBL3LM9Uoe5UXJeg3sODiC8uDC/e+eEyPC4EDe jjFVUxcsJCSm3171HAhGPV6T7hCJyfosK2f0UkxX8haGYNJWpQPgPXLlAdBdPMB9Q/W+ ytBQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.31.103 with SMTP id z7mr11511172vdh.56.1362672702731; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 08:11:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <756584AA-0E52-41FB-9150-856963F0D016@charter.net> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 17:11:42 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Studio (Was Re: interesting controller ) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <5QzZBD.A.aeD._wLORB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120436 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 16:11:43 +0000 (UTC) Oh, thanks for telling. I totally missed the slide show. It all looks like an amazing place to be at! Even the forest outside. On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Richard Sales wrote: > Damn! I've never even heard of LASS and Albino 3 Iceni. I'll do some > homework on that today. http://audiobro.com/ and http://www.spitfireaudio.com/albion-volume-iii-iceni I'm very happy with LASS and heard rumors that they have "more exciting products coming" so I'm happy to wait and see, as I do well with this combination for the small orch mockups I try now and then. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 16:22:52 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B93D71834D4; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 16:22:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <5138BED8.2030201@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 11:22:48 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130216 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen to Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-R9uZD.A.BoD.c7LORB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120437 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 16:22:52 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY http://galactictravels.info Tonight at 11 pm EST/GMT-5 on Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long Special Focus on ambient pioneer Steve Roach. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Soul Tones" on Timeroom Editions. The Special Focus page is at http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2013/focus.html#mar Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 17:36:02 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE75C1834D1; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 17:36:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=OWqW+HWvAxMk2fv8z8l2JBi48Weo9j0b+o3LsS/Q5mE=; b=Kk1dswktzsemE/4A/Gv6VQFBIbeVNOjzCwRQCgiRAIlPuuQ+XtdjDxYWtPcqTRPlrM yfP5Ij8Zl5yTmMKmo9Hgc6NVg/zY4aNQnvT3cd22wf2FHLhY0DtIvQy2sOepbq1eswu8 +bhtvp/45HkzvKv7o0GRwNqX5NktVDqdFI1o97WrgO0JCt6aTnXwFVr18O5fkbUN6iVk gIm0FLA7bhESnKgzEzEPr3CAEdSIlvfh74g8pqMswBoN5r5BZrIxBXnl/dhMTtcXkQIa hoLYQuoKIFC4D+5HUay7O/CpmU6TMBWHKv13Kh2pj1NSkk+8dcm4zNTlhXiI2ElfYLoa T71w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.119.68 with SMTP id ks4mr4554098wjb.3.1362677761499; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 09:36:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <756584AA-0E52-41FB-9150-856963F0D016@charter.net> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 09:36:01 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Studio (Was Re: interesting controller ) From: Richard Sales To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e011821cceaf7e004d75923ee X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmp3TW2U23R/bRWt4UsXntrNq8PbpYVsl7qC/WTTurLngUD/BEHNOtIulRPPc9PKguQYuqq Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120438 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 17:36:02 +0000 (UTC) --089e011821cceaf7e004d75923ee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The forest is the VERY BEST part of the whole place, studio, organic blueberries included. It''s my psychiatrist, guru/high priest, gym, and general solution to every difficulty - technological, human, creative etc. I walk the dogs there every morning and before dinner...(so, a loop! So we're still on topic!). It's about a mile walk. Each walk is always more amazing than the one before - and I'm not being poetic or hyperbolic. The light, the colors, the songs! Incredible. Thanks Per. Richard www.glasswing.com On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:11 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Oh, thanks for telling. I totally missed the slide show. It all looks > like an amazing place to be at! Even the forest outside. > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Richard Sales > wrote: > > Damn! I've never even heard of LASS and Albino 3 Iceni. I'll do some > > homework on that today. > > http://audiobro.com/ > and > http://www.spitfireaudio.com/albion-volume-iii-iceni > > I'm very happy with LASS and heard rumors that they have "more > exciting products coming" so I'm happy to wait and see, as I do well > with this combination for the small orch mockups I try now and then. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > -- richard sales www.glasswing.com --089e011821cceaf7e004d75923ee Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The forest is the VERY BEST part of the whole place, studio, organic bluebe= rries included. =A0It''s my psychiatrist, guru/high priest, gym, an= d general solution to every difficulty - technological, human, creative etc= .

I walk the dogs there every morning and before dinner...(so,= a loop! =A0So we're still on topic!). =A0It's about a mile walk. = =A0Each walk is always more amazing than the one before - and I'm not b= eing poetic or hyperbolic. =A0The light, the colors, the songs!=A0

Incredible. =A0

Thanks Per.

Richard
www.glasswing.com

On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:11 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
Oh, thanks for telling. I totally missed the= slide show. It all looks
like an amazing place to be at! Even the forest outside.

On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Richard Sales <richard@glasswing.com> wrote:
> Damn! =A0I've never even heard of LASS and Albino 3 Iceni. =A0I= 9;ll do some
> homework on that today.

http://audiobro.co= m/
and
http://www.spitfireaudio.com/albion-volume-iii-iceni

I'm very happy with LASS and heard rumors that they have "more
exciting products coming" so I'm happy to wait and see, as I do we= ll
with this combination for the small orch mockups I try now and then.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.y= outube.com/perboysen




--
= richard sales
www= .glasswing.com


--089e011821cceaf7e004d75923ee-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 17:58:02 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 569F11834D1; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 17:58:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rSf6MStDXpkSJ9JQ09S/eH/dsss+qAqDGnLpbgIGLc0=; b=TKBNu70nP7oV2AQVTbObDoELUXPyJ2t/YioaIhskAcfG+Z4PmY9ULq8nn9R2uEEDuy WXnUislOR1BbCOQNpUdKoJe7bDIYQrJ77PEiDT3Qr+UF+sc57kHHzvN4eD6HaWl8KpSV RdB+qKGS5peEPYvQYy9AVT8sRrvnrOu9b6dDLgqNh7SGZ+c/MUka0gaT5uQkuxEieu5D UG6BDGLepoLvopzIL2Ob9KTtd5N+pWDLEpPsJmh3RjSrVbqnW6D1D5ql9RpG07olYDp1 81n1D8ceflc8zU5tkThslRmCvxi8m3Tt9nMMGe5bi4/kiRTKRZXp6ixewWugEYbMGX0C +irg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.20.35 with SMTP id k3mr26444260oee.119.1362679081489; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 09:58:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <756584AA-0E52-41FB-9150-856963F0D016@charter.net> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 09:58:01 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Studio (Was Re: interesting controller ) From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120439 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 17:58:02 +0000 (UTC) I want a studio with an organic blueberry farm attached. Makes me wonder where I've gone wrong in life :-) Fantastic space Richard. Kevin On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Richard Sales wrote: > The forest is the VERY BEST part of the whole place, studio, organic > blueberries included. It''s my psychiatrist, guru/high priest, gym, and > general solution to every difficulty - technological, human, creative etc. > > I walk the dogs there every morning and before dinner...(so, a loop! So > we're still on topic!). It's about a mile walk. Each walk is always more > amazing than the one before - and I'm not being poetic or hyperbolic. The > light, the colors, the songs! > > Incredible. > > Thanks Per. > > Richard > www.glasswing.com > > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:11 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> Oh, thanks for telling. I totally missed the slide show. It all looks >> like an amazing place to be at! Even the forest outside. >> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Richard Sales >> wrote: >> > Damn! I've never even heard of LASS and Albino 3 Iceni. I'll do some >> > homework on that today. >> >> http://audiobro.com/ >> and >> http://www.spitfireaudio.com/albion-volume-iii-iceni >> >> I'm very happy with LASS and heard rumors that they have "more >> exciting products coming" so I'm happy to wait and see, as I do well >> with this combination for the small orch mockups I try now and then. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.perboysen.com >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >> > > > > -- > richard sales > www.glasswing.com > > -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 18:42:57 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5A3A1834CF; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 18:42:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=J0T0tJ5mSrx9Z1h0398yVVLGieF2TRzj9gcmtmYf8ts=; b=EndUMnkcs4WDTwVS/+osHlxIHO6w7EbflvvtBNMohLQ2rmpWclaZcAgYF9CGJOuDJI Ph9nMjZ/ZWtTUfuu1sKITR7t/UcL8QVqJT5JNZ9k+0e9qY35PbZEC5sDR4NHf+vzPLFN SiCex5wh6WEaf4YEL9OmpvjbTQMFDwEREw+phTGDAsZPBPC3xy+DB42WzHIg7cD86cBd M/XpsO4m4ecmr4aiHshrL3P2/Q2kMzM/NXSNJARJBy2TDOsM8nkzu0b/uAWVAov4kNst 7HZoRuHqwTYxP6aNWRHG5kP4bQFUvNsVQDrBVle9WNy1Vc9Uub46qxc4V58abYN3IcLC 0GyQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.94.135 with SMTP id dc7mr35495871wib.11.1362681776248; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:42:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <756584AA-0E52-41FB-9150-856963F0D016@charter.net> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 10:42:56 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Studio (Was Re: interesting controller ) From: Richard Sales To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04462e7a372d8504d75a130c X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmhbM8L7ql0lfHdTHJnPguEbcA/doiIaHlSTBZxN9fqqdHSxOOtbuPRnDWdzC7RlctYzlFN Resent-Message-ID: <2oD8LD.A.82E.x-NORB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120440 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 18:42:57 +0000 (UTC) --f46d04462e7a372d8504d75a130c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks Kevin, It was definitely a stroke of luck. We bought it in 03, when the Canadian dollar was at a very low point compared to US dollar. We just sort of stumbled on it and I fell totally in love (think Richard Dreyfus in CLose Encounters of the 3rd Kind). Had no idea how expensive etc it was to emigrate. Just dove in and didn't look back. Of course, you haven't gone wrong! I know you know that. When the music really takes over, there is no environment, no farm, no city, no self. The rest is sort of technical/psychic support. When the big room is done, maybe we can have some kind of looping event here. Will have to sniff around for support for something like that from our community. No fun playing to empty chairs! We did festivals for a few years here and they were huge fun. The last one drew around 500 people. But it was a LOT of work for very little money for us or the artists. Hopefully the big room will be less effort. R www.glasswing.com On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > I want a studio with an organic blueberry farm attached. Makes me > wonder where I've gone wrong in life :-) > > Fantastic space Richard. > > Kevin > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Richard Sales > wrote: > > The forest is the VERY BEST part of the whole place, studio, organic > > blueberries included. It''s my psychiatrist, guru/high priest, gym, and > > general solution to every difficulty - technological, human, creative > etc. > > > > I walk the dogs there every morning and before dinner...(so, a loop! So > > we're still on topic!). It's about a mile walk. Each walk is always > more > > amazing than the one before - and I'm not being poetic or hyperbolic. > The > > light, the colors, the songs! > > > > Incredible. > > > > Thanks Per. > > > > Richard > > www.glasswing.com > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:11 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> > >> Oh, thanks for telling. I totally missed the slide show. It all looks > >> like an amazing place to be at! Even the forest outside. > >> > >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Richard Sales > >> wrote: > >> > Damn! I've never even heard of LASS and Albino 3 Iceni. I'll do some > >> > homework on that today. > >> > >> http://audiobro.com/ > >> and > >> http://www.spitfireaudio.com/albion-volume-iii-iceni > >> > >> I'm very happy with LASS and heard rumors that they have "more > >> exciting products coming" so I'm happy to wait and see, as I do well > >> with this combination for the small orch mockups I try now and then. > >> > >> Greetings from Sweden > >> > >> Per Boysen > >> www.perboysen.com > >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > richard sales > > www.glasswing.com > > > > > > > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > -- richard sales www.glasswing.com --f46d04462e7a372d8504d75a130c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Kevin,

It was definitely a stroke of luck. =A0We = bought it in 03, when the Canadian dollar was at a very low point compared = to US dollar. =A0We just sort of stumbled on it and I fell totally in love = (think Richard Dreyfus in CLose Encounters of the 3rd Kind). =A0Had no idea= how expensive etc it was to emigrate. =A0Just dove in and didn't look = back.

Of course, you haven't gone wrong! =A0I know you kn= ow that.

When the music really takes over, there i= s no environment, no farm, no city, no self. =A0The rest is sort of technic= al/psychic support.

When the big room is done, maybe we can have some kind = of looping event here. =A0Will have to sniff around for support for somethi= ng like that from our community. =A0No fun playing to empty chairs! =A0

We did festivals for a few years here and they were hug= e fun. =A0The last one drew around 500 people. =A0But it was a LOT of work = for very little money for us or the artists. =A0Hopefully the big room will= be less effort.

R



On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando <b= illowhead@gmail.com> wrote:
I want a studio with an organic blueberry fa= rm attached. =A0Makes me
wonder where I've gone wrong in life :-)

Fantastic space Richard.

Kevin

On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Richard Sales <richard@glasswing.com> wrote:
> The forest is the VERY BEST part of the whole place, studio, organic > blueberries included. =A0It''s my psychiatrist, guru/high prie= st, gym, and
> general solution to every difficulty - technological, human, creative = etc.
>
> I walk the dogs there every morning and before dinner...(so, a loop! = =A0So
> we're still on topic!). =A0It's about a mile walk. =A0Each wal= k is always more
> amazing than the one before - and I'm not being poetic or hyperbol= ic. =A0The
> light, the colors, the songs!
>
> Incredible.
>
> Thanks Per.
>
> Richard
> www.glasswing.c= om
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:11 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Oh, thanks for telling. I totally missed the slide show. It all lo= oks
>> like an amazing place to be at! Even the forest outside.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Richard Sales <richard@glasswing.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Damn! =A0I've never even heard of LASS and Albino 3 Iceni= . =A0I'll do some
>> > homework on that today.
>>
>> http://audiobro= .com/
>> and
>> http://www.spitfireaudio.com/albion-volume-iii-iceni >>
>> I'm very happy with LASS and heard rumors that they have "= ;more
>> exciting products coming" so I'm happy to wait and see, a= s I do well
>> with this combination for the small orch mockups I try now and the= n.
>>
>> Greetings from Sweden
>>
>> Per Boysen
>> www.perboys= en.com
>> htt= p://www.youtube.com/perboysen
>>
>
>
>
> --
> richard sales
> www.glasswing.c= om
>
>



--
Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.<= br>
- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)




-- richard sales
www.glasswing.com


--f46d04462e7a372d8504d75a130c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 18:44:39 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D5911834D3; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 18:44:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=Fy9OCW3UCHUQSBSBrzHzbQOmrylQCje5pW67nFRKLLs=; b=G9bEqfTKX+a8URAieNOCurccjLJ1Hjg96A8qhMj8B+WVnczkP2jJeoam8crtsi+h+m 2weqP8lZkIQdsZOuQ3bJnBoEPuRu1khK9z/xbo1kfRkEVuTlTvCeK6i8UwMhcoNvGm/8 WfR4kM2m6lduJZTgoWQs5S0p3SopXxhfwfGGJCPuV5+tMgnkuOEeOGKLLepgqy8CIewZ QomOcdgKuzarAAyPVTb9GGOldei7eWOUXptvJws8QbqgynIiZGu29gRMbOZNfQsDqC1a KlV0xcbSeTTseKSobN6OAINWUdUOFxmr6LE7SGGt7rXxRjwvT5ThTsoJAd6d7UyD4xAF TMtw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.81.2 with SMTP id v2mr35682329wix.17.1362681877787; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:44:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <756584AA-0E52-41FB-9150-856963F0D016@charter.net> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 10:44:37 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Studio (Was Re: interesting controller ) From: Richard Sales To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04428296448e0404d75a1959 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmpdRWJ3wfMAkRM1g10jjjbHLCNCKoA/MQyc2pmtG/Y+uT2ZpHWkw1c6QMk8l/xLh4BCDEN Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120441 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 18:44:39 +0000 (UTC) --f46d04428296448e0404d75a1959 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Richard Sales wrote: > Thanks Kevin, > > It was definitely a stroke of luck. We bought it in 03, when the Canadian > dollar was at a very low point compared to US dollar. We just sort of > stumbled on it and I fell totally in love (think Richard Dreyfus in CLose > Encounters of the 3rd Kind). Had no idea how expensive etc it was to > emigrate. Just dove in and didn't look back. > > Of course, you haven't gone wrong! I know you know that. > > When the music really takes over, there is no environment, no farm, no > city, no studio, no self. The rest is sort of technical/psychic support. > > When the big room is done, maybe we can have some kind of looping event > here. Will have to sniff around for support for something like that from > our community. No fun playing to empty chairs! > > We did festivals for a few years here and they were huge fun. The last > one drew around 500 people. But it was a LOT of work for very little money > for us or the artists. Hopefully the big room will be less effort. > > R > www.glasswing.com > > > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > >> I want a studio with an organic blueberry farm attached. Makes me >> wonder where I've gone wrong in life :-) >> >> Fantastic space Richard. >> >> Kevin >> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Richard Sales >> wrote: >> > The forest is the VERY BEST part of the whole place, studio, organic >> > blueberries included. It''s my psychiatrist, guru/high priest, gym, and >> > general solution to every difficulty - technological, human, creative >> etc. >> > >> > I walk the dogs there every morning and before dinner...(so, a loop! So >> > we're still on topic!). It's about a mile walk. Each walk is always >> more >> > amazing than the one before - and I'm not being poetic or hyperbolic. >> The >> > light, the colors, the songs! >> > >> > Incredible. >> > >> > Thanks Per. >> > >> > Richard >> > www.glasswing.com >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:11 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> >> >> Oh, thanks for telling. I totally missed the slide show. It all looks >> >> like an amazing place to be at! Even the forest outside. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Richard Sales >> >> wrote: >> >> > Damn! I've never even heard of LASS and Albino 3 Iceni. I'll do >> some >> >> > homework on that today. >> >> >> >> http://audiobro.com/ >> >> and >> >> http://www.spitfireaudio.com/albion-volume-iii-iceni >> >> >> >> I'm very happy with LASS and heard rumors that they have "more >> >> exciting products coming" so I'm happy to wait and see, as I do well >> >> with this combination for the small orch mockups I try now and then. >> >> >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> >> >> Per Boysen >> >> www.perboysen.com >> >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > richard sales >> > www.glasswing.com >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a >> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. >> >> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >> >> > > > -- > richard sales > www.glasswing.com > > > -- richard sales www.glasswing.com --f46d04428296448e0404d75a1959 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Richard Sales <richard@glasswing.com<= /a>> wrote:
Thanks Kevin,

It was definitely a stroke of luck. =A0We = bought it in 03, when the Canadian dollar was at a very low point compared = to US dollar. =A0We just sort of stumbled on it and I fell totally in love = (think Richard Dreyfus in CLose Encounters of the 3rd Kind). =A0Had no idea= how expensive etc it was to emigrate. =A0Just dove in and didn't look = back.

Of course, you haven't gone wrong! =A0I know you kn= ow that.

When the music really takes over, there i= s no environment, no farm, no city, no studio, no self. =A0The rest is sort= of technical/psychic support.

When the big room is done, maybe we can have some kind = of looping event here. =A0Will have to sniff around for support for somethi= ng like that from our community. =A0No fun playing to empty chairs! =A0

We did festivals for a few years here and they were hug= e fun. =A0The last one drew around 500 people. =A0But it was a LOT of work = for very little money for us or the artists. =A0Hopefully the big room will= be less effort.

R



On Thu, Mar 7, 2013= at 9:58 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com> w= rote:
I want a studio with an organic blueberry fa= rm attached. =A0Makes me
wonder where I've gone wrong in life :-)

Fantastic space Richard.

Kevin

On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Richard Sales <richard@glasswing.com> wrote:
> The forest is the VERY BEST part of the whole place, studio, organic > blueberries included. =A0It''s my psychiatrist, guru/high prie= st, gym, and
> general solution to every difficulty - technological, human, creative = etc.
>
> I walk the dogs there every morning and before dinner...(so, a loop! = =A0So
> we're still on topic!). =A0It's about a mile walk. =A0Each wal= k is always more
> amazing than the one before - and I'm not being poetic or hyperbol= ic. =A0The
> light, the colors, the songs!
>
> Incredible.
>
> Thanks Per.
>
> Richard
> www.glasswing.c= om
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:11 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Oh, thanks for telling. I totally missed the slide show. It all lo= oks
>> like an amazing place to be at! Even the forest outside.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Richard Sales <richard@glasswing.com> >> wrote:
>> > Damn! =A0I've never even heard of LASS and Albino 3 Iceni= . =A0I'll do some
>> > homework on that today.
>>
>> http://audiobro= .com/
>> and
>> http://www.spitfireaudio.com/albion-volume-iii-iceni >>
>> I'm very happy with LASS and heard rumors that they have "= ;more
>> exciting products coming" so I'm happy to wait and see, a= s I do well
>> with this combination for the small orch mockups I try now and the= n.
>>
>> Greetings from Sweden
>>
>> Per Boysen
>> www.perboys= en.com
>> htt= p://www.youtube.com/perboysen
>>
>
>
>
> --
> richard sales
> www.glasswing.c= om
>
>



--
Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.<= br>
- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)




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richard sales<= br>www.glasswing.com=





--
richard sale= s
www.glasswing.com


--f46d04428296448e0404d75a1959-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 18:55:26 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6B371834D1; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 18:55:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 406 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 18:55:26 UTC X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at d2.hostbaby.com From: john floridis Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: EDP, circa 2003 Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 11:48:34 -0700 Message-Id: To: Delight Loopers Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120442 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 18:55:26 +0000 (UTC) Hello everyone, I am considering selling my EDP which I purchased around 2003 or so. = It's in excellent condition, and I have the original box. Does anyone = have any idea of the market value? I do respect the unit, but I'm just = not using it now, and it feels like a waste for it not be in use, = particularly given the work that some of the folks do on this list with = the EDP. Just curious, John= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 18:56:50 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCD031834CD; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 18:56:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=iaGX32g0pQGBQ8bB2ILLHWq/n9v29eMHpnU4mI+AiyE=; b=lX2vIP8lMPrSu6QFSguPguJHH0DkFbIG9+uahJ9BjQYUWj9HG8HFKOtkp+7hmmNL31 zOefnjd5KbSVTLBtAdktC4f5l+QDKj5mt5+diRCaVSHyn4RntwT3bj6RMQiHUEhCBqYV V2s8kpgEPsU0KmeDLQFqhDRUXGUvQrH6Jp+PFvf//pv7k78Fb6hBQPtVsckzRD/+sc8I EVedvdJOXTfUg3aqD9yW5gTjPsUuKlKtlGucC+K3qz+5z+83mAGHKcac9fe3s6SD+im/ nTpx/Ynq+kbzxi8WObhuyB2oTl4Og19nUmqfi7r46/tKezFO7Xv7xqmaVICAtifLIPwU cSuw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.88.233 with SMTP id bj9mr15357983igb.55.1362682610278; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:56:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 10:56:50 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EDP, circa 2003 From: Todd Elliott To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f23440fed66a804d75a44df Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120443 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 18:56:50 +0000 (UTC) --e89a8f23440fed66a804d75a44df Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 A Wasp? T On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 10:48 AM, john floridis wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I am considering selling my EDP which I purchased around 2003 or so. It's > in excellent condition, and I have the original box. Does anyone have any > idea of the market value? I do respect the unit, but I'm just not using it > now, and it feels like a waste for it not be in use, particularly given the > work that some of the folks do on this list with the EDP. > > Just curious, > John > -- http://toaster.bandcamp.com --e89a8f23440fed66a804d75a44df Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A Wasp?=A0

T

On Thu, M= ar 7, 2013 at 10:48 AM, john floridis <john@johnfloridis.com> wrote:
Hello everyone,

I am considering selling my EDP which I purchased around 2003 or so. It'= ;s in excellent condition, and I have the original box. Does anyone have an= y idea of the market value? I do respect the unit, but I'm just not usi= ng it now, and it feels like a waste for it not be in use, particularly giv= en the work that some of the folks do on this list with the EDP.

Just curious,
John



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http://toaster.bandcamp.com
--e89a8f23440fed66a804d75a44df-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 19:00:40 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 762731834D1; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 19:00:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at d2.hostbaby.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Subject: Re: EDP, circa 2003 From: john floridis In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 12:00:35 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9B2DC050-0AE4-43C7-A574-6905641F0299@johnfloridis.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120444 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 19:00:40 +0000 (UTC) I'm suddenly feeling very ignorant....not familiar with the term "Wasp" = in regards to the EDP. JF= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 19:03:54 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA9F61834D0; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 19:03:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dWw6TT5JXDQhjCVzq5lHGM8HRbU/W/hSnP3+uMfuNNE=; b=orrbmibjBFfpv0kPAXZPvWrBwjY3GTqyIMpJFOytz5Ow6aTvgYfZlcAdoRzLcN+Fzl FBuWTu/Bhb6rQniBBdE69Ok2VRocHICFEzGPrgUR1tW/dVxOx6ODx77NL0QPFxyEVa+E UsUWhkRsqgROKuKVVJYVGcFhD+zLenGwGMZWQCy314MOAGSiKMbI77vV/tpW9Joz9Kgq 0XtR3otLkCCg/lhULptVpaNiWFbHKcBgyEAcD5tbU5+32SNaNMn+TknBatgSNvndGYjh zu++AZrLYUAvHbD7ocXI6+KHFKakI5cAHUE87aDWCyG5gqAbla7wN+OtAq7e3r8/zf0y ik5Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.43.7.201 with SMTP id op9mr34877322icb.30.1362683033893; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 11:03:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9B2DC050-0AE4-43C7-A574-6905641F0299@johnfloridis.com> References: <9B2DC050-0AE4-43C7-A574-6905641F0299@johnfloridis.com> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 11:03:53 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EDP, circa 2003 From: Todd Elliott To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec50fe1192d421f04d75a5ef3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120445 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 19:03:54 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec50fe1192d421f04d75a5ef3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 EDP or 'Electronic Dream Planet' made the Wasp, a weird and wonderful synth which was made on the cheap-- a working one can go for $1500 or so these days. I don't know what you mean by 'EDP' on it's own. :-). T On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 11:00 AM, john floridis wrote: > I'm suddenly feeling very ignorant....not familiar with the term "Wasp" in > regards to the EDP. > JF > -- http://toaster.bandcamp.com --bcaec50fe1192d421f04d75a5ef3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable EDP or 'Electronic Dream Planet' made the Wasp, a weird and wonderf= ul synth which was made on the cheap-- a working one can go for $1500 or so= these days. I don't know what you mean by 'EDP' on it's ow= n. :-).=A0

T


On Thu, Mar 7= , 2013 at 11:00 AM, john floridis <john@johnfloridis.com> wrote:
I'm suddenly feeling very ignorant....no= t familiar with the term "Wasp" in regards to the EDP.
JF



-- http://toaster.= bandcamp.com
--bcaec50fe1192d421f04d75a5ef3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 19:08:24 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E85271834D0; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 19:08:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VXRaY/rbFK6zDfZA9xtE9ToAx87awvCTa6HhnrmxwhU=; b=l6ZuGEDH6oMV3ICOB+7IKsPXjzGoWrd0iut+iaMvb2Qy259GGVGhVF6TNNrxIXbyD/ wbKmkDymGS9GWrN/prnTby1fZeEsAXlemcPEN+gzSYOK1BV8+icL04OplA085iaSLXoN gKtUoZEQWc0aN4uBluN2JSrzHfiY/BUsM8JT/WMEoq70Hmhv+IEp7KhC+QO0AO4SFeIJ 8ILADT0Sq3imxzOUhiGS1w+Ejb+qmqW7EEh9hSa5/2yyGj1sEA+/aRoaGA8ZBPamwKQN E1edGPyM9VvM6LE7UT5eD008cWwShxdpLsBN0RjJLgytMVrR2FBSgFN8jhsFcuQdlfVe QWtQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.195.231 with SMTP id ih7mr15397521igc.55.1362683303250; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 11:08:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <9B2DC050-0AE4-43C7-A574-6905641F0299@johnfloridis.com> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 11:08:23 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EDP, circa 2003 From: Todd Elliott To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9340cfb3b53f804d75a6e1a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120446 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 19:08:23 +0000 (UTC) --14dae9340cfb3b53f804d75a6e1a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 And it was 'Plant', not planet. Still, what's an EDP? T On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Todd Elliott wrote: > EDP or 'Electronic Dream Planet' made the Wasp, a weird and wonderful > synth which was made on the cheap-- a working one can go for $1500 or so > these days. I don't know what you mean by 'EDP' on it's own. :-). > > T > > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 11:00 AM, john floridis wrote: > >> I'm suddenly feeling very ignorant....not familiar with the term "Wasp" >> in regards to the EDP. >> JF >> > > > > -- > http://toaster.bandcamp.com > -- http://toaster.bandcamp.com --14dae9340cfb3b53f804d75a6e1a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And it was 'Plant', not planet. Still, what's an EDP?

<= /div>
T


On Thu, Mar 7, 201= 3 at 11:03 AM, Todd Elliott <toddbert@gmail.com> wrote:
EDP or 'Electronic Dream Planet' mad= e the Wasp, a weird and wonderful synth which was made on the cheap-- a wor= king one can go for $1500 or so these days. I don't know what you mean = by 'EDP' on it's own. :-).=A0

T


On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 11:00 AM, john floridis <<= a href=3D"mailto:john@johnfloridis.com" target=3D"_blank">john@johnfloridis= .com> wrote:
I'm suddenly feeling very ignorant....no= t familiar with the term "Wasp" in regards to the EDP.
JF



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--14dae9340cfb3b53f804d75a6e1a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 19:10:48 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7BFB41834D1; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 19:10:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=58zVZEGPxgsQ1T1+eIplmT0Rl3fIQTP13/YKO4hQ4+c=; b=iQNk4xQ3lYdtrDO8ZKoeVbEylHj5iKhtksxMvIU/g8NkYPlvPvofWlFvbbMBFALzPH +QdrP3V1/t7MgDn4lrHQmwS009+AmoBRVX5n+mdoAJ9iukVe/Ae7ztSmukRi0y7QXuVS o2CAoI+AVX92ovDAVhrJ9tHvj30b0qT6SU4XdUK/BxE/RSqapMNS3a3GsfPi9zciH6vH F5vBP3ytwXI9sEQ4Y5H319zhW1p49S7Q1qk+daZu6adRcugXDgJCpI2msDY5wn28ajdV EObIYDh/Q5IpFEf8xInIGoSjg2aIStFr7sx95+9ldYpY4JTjMHPy7OWxrZBGiiyHfKRI xQIQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.32.161 with SMTP id k1mr27628696oei.21.1362683447774; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 11:10:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <9B2DC050-0AE4-43C7-A574-6905641F0299@johnfloridis.com> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 14:10:47 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EDP, circa 2003 From: George Turcotte To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb1f848d8e22c04d75a7632 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120447 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 19:10:48 +0000 (UTC) --e89a8fb1f848d8e22c04d75a7632 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 If the price is right, I'm buying! On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Todd Elliott wrote: > EDP or 'Electronic Dream Planet' made the Wasp, a weird and wonderful > synth which was made on the cheap-- a working one can go for $1500 or so > these days. I don't know what you mean by 'EDP' on it's own. :-). > > T > > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 11:00 AM, john floridis wrote: > >> I'm suddenly feeling very ignorant....not familiar with the term "Wasp" >> in regards to the EDP. >> JF >> > > > > -- > http://toaster.bandcamp.com > --e89a8fb1f848d8e22c04d75a7632 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If the price is right, I'm buying!

On= Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Todd Elliott <toddbert@gmail.com> wrote:
EDP or 'Electronic Dream Planet' mad= e the Wasp, a weird and wonderful synth which was made on the cheap-- a wor= king one can go for $1500 or so these days. I don't know what you mean = by 'EDP' on it's own. :-).=A0

T


On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 11:00 AM, john floridis <<= a href=3D"mailto:john@johnfloridis.com" target=3D"_blank">john@johnfloridis= .com> wrote:
I'm suddenly feeling very ignorant....no= t familiar with the term "Wasp" in regards to the EDP.
JF



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--e89a8fb1f848d8e22c04d75a7632-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 19:12:32 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B84A1834D9; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 19:12:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at d2.hostbaby.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Subject: Re: EDP, circa 2003 From: john floridis In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 12:12:28 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <9B2DC050-0AE4-43C7-A574-6905641F0299@johnfloridis.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120448 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 19:12:32 +0000 (UTC) Oh, my bad....Echoplex, as In Echoplex Digital Pro plus. JF From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 19:58:38 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CEB451834CE; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 19:58:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=R8DAospki9aS/dSoqPvLq2+g3DqP+JvRoubItn+G6sw=; b=VxHPuxzI0WkD9T9fruTWbzrd6gqDaoCOE1yBeTIZuMsgULHfWvm6hfwN6948zpOY3/ UAM9zEU0H04+kR2Lz0B1FWw4LcY09zABDnpLPg89m7PzvjF/q/SxGFiYWVu750WoH/a9 +o751z7EKvtHLXJ3tlXeBaQnjxeLjoQIuUmun0vUkwtNH+gsKfPp2h+5J4XheIH0yA/U GWrkJzsRDxWe5yh57Rdqu4FIPEQnYbtvh9EDR0+T0HtSccLZLNzHqXl+/ZBSasBetQXN Mk70ttFtx49Zdkael8qhq+qzBDEe1/ptI3UA9VZX/jJithuvriQkJf6VbAZkDpWNwmfa J3Gg== X-Received: by 10.52.29.209 with SMTP id m17mr11799638vdh.111.1362686317981; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 11:58:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:58:17 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: i8aatERaWe7W62cjVxWJsczghdo Message-ID: Subject: Re: interesting controller/Ableton Push To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307d0540ecafb604d75b21e8 Resent-Message-ID: <9oen_D.A.dRG.uFPORB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120449 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 19:58:38 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307d0540ecafb604d75b21e8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Jesus Christ.. Does it work like that out of the box? I think not... ! Can you imagine the hellish days and days of fiddly little assigning and mapping and tweaking... Looks so much like a job... not fun at all! I bet they sell a lot based on the lights tho... vewwy vewwy pweeedy! I might get one just to go on the wall! Mark On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Philip Conway wrote: > I pre-ordered Push yesterday. It's a sizable lump of money for a > controller - especially one that I haven't been able to try out first hand > - but I couldn't resist the introductory offer. It'll be here in just > 12-14 weeks!... > > I'm quite excited about its potential as an instrument. One appealing > thing is that, if the early reviews are to be believed, it is very well > made and feels heavy and solid. This is no small thing for a musical > instrument. It's much easier to 'lose yourself' and get into 'the zone', > as they say, if you're playing something that just feels solid and high > quality, rather than flimsy and plasticy. And, for me, whether or not you > can 'lose yourself' in an instrument is ultimately the marker of whether > it's any good or not. > > In many ways Push makes much more sense than a traditional keyboard for > performing and composing electronic music since it allows any scalar > mapping of notes and makes that mapping intuitive by providing visual > feedback. In this way it seems to let the player find relationships > between notes and sounds that don't rigidly adhere to the c-major scale > structure of the piano-style keyboard. > > This is how it should be for electronic music, which is not being limited > to the physical mechanisms of objects like the piano. The piano keyboard > was an elegant invention but it resulted to some degree from the physical > requirements of whacking strings with little hammers. Electronic music is > completely free from such physical connections but, with some expensive > exceptions (e.g. the Haken Continuum), instrument or interface design has > lagged a long way behind what programmers and sound designers have achieved. > > Push looks like a step in the right direction in that respect. It's not > revolutionary in concept but it appears to have been very well done - at > least I hope so! > > > > Philip. > > > --On 07 March 2013 12:15 +0100 Per Boysen wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:36 AM, michael noble wrote: >> >>> http://www.weareroli.com/ >>> >>> Anyone know anything more about this company or the controller? >>> >> >> >> Looks cool, like a "piano submarine" :-) A little thin on information >> that page, isn't it? From the video it seems as notes are located in >> linear way, similar to a piano? >> >> I must say I'm more intrigued by Ableton's new instrument Push, due to >> its non linear location of notes. The chromatic scale layout on Push >> is based on rows differing by a fourths and this creates what to me >> seems to very playable note locations. In fact, the hand patterns are >> the same as if tapping a fourths tuned fretted string instrument. >> Another aspect I like with the Push is that some notes appear at >> several positions and can be played in unison but with different >> attack/expression, this too in common with fretted string instruments. >> >> I've been using an Akai EWI4000s for some years and think it is the >> most (musically) expressive MIDI controller instruments I've come >> across. Since it is based on breath control rather than >> hitting-something-with-a-hand velocity it a challenge to program good >> synth patches to play. I think Yamaha was great in the 80s with breath >> control but since then not much product development seems to have >> happend im this area. THat's odd, thinking about how a simple hose to >> blow into increases the expressiveness of any simple keyboard. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.perboysen.com >> http://www.youtube.com/**perboysen >> >> > > > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --20cf307d0540ecafb604d75b21e8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jesus Christ.. Does it work like that out of the box? I th= ink not... !
Can you imagine the hellish days and days of fiddly little = assigning and mapping and tweaking... Looks so much like a job... not fun a= t all!

I bet they sell a lot based on the lights tho... vewwy= vewwy pweeedy!
I might get one just to go on the wall!
=
Mark


On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Philip Conway <Philip.Conway@bri= stol.ac.uk> wrote:
I pre-ordered Push yesterday. =A0It's a sizable lump of money for a con= troller - especially one that I haven't been able to try out first hand= - but I couldn't resist the introductory offer. =A0It'll be here i= n just 12-14 weeks!...

I'm quite excited about its potential as an instrument. =A0One appealin= g thing is that, if the early reviews are to be believed, it is very well m= ade and feels heavy and solid. =A0This is no small thing for a musical inst= rument. =A0 It's much easier to 'lose yourself' and get into &#= 39;the zone', as they say, if you're playing something that just fe= els solid and high quality, rather than flimsy and plasticy. =A0And, for me= , whether or not you can 'lose yourself' in an instrument is ultima= tely the marker of whether it's any good or not.

In many ways Push makes much more sense than a traditional keyboard for per= forming and composing electronic music since it allows any scalar mapping o= f notes and makes that mapping intuitive by providing visual feedback. =A0I= n this way it seems to let the player find relationships between notes and = sounds that don't rigidly adhere to the c-major scale structure of the = piano-style keyboard.

This is how it should be for electronic music, which is not being limited t= o the physical mechanisms of objects like the piano. =A0The piano keyboard = was an elegant invention but it resulted to some degree from the physical r= equirements of whacking strings with little hammers. =A0Electronic music is= completely free from such physical connections but, with some expensive ex= ceptions (e.g. the Haken Continuum), instrument or interface design has lag= ged a long way behind what programmers and sound designers have achieved.
Push looks like a step in the right direction in that respect. =A0It's = not revolutionary in concept but it appears to have been very well done - a= t least I hope so!



Philip.


--On 07 March 2013 12:15 +0100 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:36 AM, michael noble <looplog@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.wearerol= i.com/

Anyone know anything more about this company or the controller?


Looks cool, like a "piano submarine" :-) =A0A little thin on info= rmation
that page, isn't it? From the video it seems as notes are located in linear way, similar to a piano?

I must say I'm more intrigued by Ableton's new instrument Push, due= to
its non linear location of notes. The chromatic scale layout on Push
is based on rows differing by a fourths and this creates what to me
seems to very playable note locations. In fact, the hand patterns are
the same as if tapping a fourths tuned fretted string instrument.
Another aspect I like with the Push is that some notes appear at
several positions and can be played in unison but with different
attack/expression, this too in common with fretted string instruments.

I've been using an Akai EWI4000s for some years and think it is the
most (musically) expressive MIDI controller instruments I've come
across. Since it is based on breath control rather than
hitting-something-with-a-hand velocity it a challenge to program good
synth patches to play. I think Yamaha was great in the 80s with breath
control but since then not much product development seems to have
happend im this area. THat's odd, thinking about how a simple hose to blow into increases the expressiveness of any simple keyboard.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.y= outube.com/perboysen








--
M= ark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
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--20cf307d0540ecafb604d75b21e8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 20:03:03 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0691A1834D5; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:03:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=vSG4au4vjehHFv8lDxi9HGZR4/AzOR62algE712u0gI=; b=ZcheEB4CtmucXK3JyIzVmCvB1U3CVsJlPcAsDrIjaRkHb6w5cgozpk8SEqO4zMDe7f jwpz4Y1VCYEQdnZc4Kw/xGhSIqJWQah+pawjPqi6dB/DJNZDOisb3413vyUesYmoBRLX vDkIZNN9AYlh8TpM7nKnuYOLf59yQS74CqzrLwO2x9JMkRw7uMeHmjohpPavbUTt3jid nKe9Ohra438rmmlBPH/A+ZsN3NWmF/ev0KBwLq3j4vFwDWx+yWghMedmoJlLhOORfFi6 Xl/Iu7djmIcMHSCivpiwX7d+LxFQWSSdOwqrxpwvxz+o0FsSOPGJq0LQT8zvkyGgLdi1 YzPg== X-Received: by 10.58.232.226 with SMTP id tr2mr13685790vec.48.1362686582362; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 12:03:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <9B2DC050-0AE4-43C7-A574-6905641F0299@johnfloridis.com> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 21:02:42 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: J88wik4bcHUWquxvc9Zf781xpXA Message-ID: Subject: Re: EDP, circa 2003 To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013a11a2aec6d004d75b31e9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120450 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:03:02 +0000 (UTC) --089e013a11a2aec6d004d75b31e9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Todd, you are being obtuse.. seeing as the EDP is the single most often discussed looper on this list!! However, I had a Wasp, and a Gnat... and they were fab synths.. wish I still had on... but I ust got a Wasp Tshirt... and I get knowing nods in the street... M On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:12 PM, john floridis wrote: > Oh, my bad....Echoplex, as In Echoplex Digital Pro plus. > JF > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --089e013a11a2aec6d004d75b31e9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Todd, you are being obtuse.. seeing as the EDP is the sing= le most often discussed looper on this list!! However, I had a Wasp, and a = Gnat... and they were fab synths.. wish I still had on... but I ust got a W= asp Tshirt... and I get knowing nods in the street...

M


On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:12 PM, john floridis <jo= hn@johnfloridis.com> wrote:
Oh, my bad....Echoplex, as In Echoplex Digit= al Pro plus.
JF




-- Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
<= /font>
--089e013a11a2aec6d004d75b31e9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 20:05:17 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FB261834CF; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:05:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at d2.hostbaby.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Subject: Re: EDP, circa 2003 From: john floridis In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 13:05:12 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <667D12E2-4035-4D3F-87CC-746E6BE28E31@johnfloridis.com> References: <9B2DC050-0AE4-43C7-A574-6905641F0299@johnfloridis.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120451 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:05:17 +0000 (UTC) Thank you Mark, I didn't think I was speaking in code or anything :-) I also might be looking to move a Boomerang, circa 2011. JF From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 20:06:52 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D92A81834D4; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:06:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tUYbBhBSDN9xdsR4oAq7At0FGqW37ahgZIP9vnFhw1s=; b=HwVwOBQLm9/Y0CRlJ4xu4f1y4XfJBJ2Ci4I1uV/RMPy48KKOflFd/XSVZP+lDfwto7 8zY6uRoUJQkHSOAccM1Yl3cH/35r4umZr403UhbuSegAGT1lTJ/ZY9E0Nq7tqQ+qhGyL p6mhWEDmdWe9QAgp889Z1aLNP4I5I1Jz9dIQ0yk+ohUdWhw7kPEWGWq0HFy5vaRexbRr NrtTJUn/3UNMsRBuu/roMrGMrYPSy5OsiNT/7qkrrUIfEpjUzO5KgMFpTAJwXcSn2TEe 5Pgvg32MpJY1ONpaMg2aIvMo/kxPMWjVulzzdCQCiqgHolxIpcokXwjiWyS08wJbacpt Eafg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.33.167 with SMTP id s7mr11642659vdi.52.1362686812283; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 12:06:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 21:06:52 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: interesting controller/Ableton Push From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120452 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:06:52 +0000 (UTC) @mark, If you connect a USB cable to a laptop running Live 9.x it does indeed "work like that". It actually lets you control the Live application from the pad, very much like an extension of the well known Roland TR step sequencing concept. But I'm more interested in simply playing MIDI notes from it, just like any MIDI piano keyboard - but with a smarter chromatic keyboard layout. In order to do that you only need to open a virtual instrument in whatever laptop application picking up at the other end of the USB cable. Practically no tweaking at all. If you want to use it to control a custom looping rig you may very well there will of course be a lot of mapping and tweaking. Maybe you were actually talking only about this third alternative? But for using it as an instrument that plays Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:58 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Jesus Christ.. Does it work like that out of the box? I think not... ! > Can you imagine the hellish days and days of fiddly little assigning and > mapping and tweaking... Looks so much like a job... not fun at all! > > I bet they sell a lot based on the lights tho... vewwy vewwy pweeedy! > I might get one just to go on the wall! > > Mark > > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Philip Conway > wrote: >> >> I pre-ordered Push yesterday. It's a sizable lump of money for a >> controller - especially one that I haven't been able to try out first hand - >> but I couldn't resist the introductory offer. It'll be here in just 12-14 >> weeks!... >> >> I'm quite excited about its potential as an instrument. One appealing >> thing is that, if the early reviews are to be believed, it is very well made >> and feels heavy and solid. This is no small thing for a musical instrument. >> It's much easier to 'lose yourself' and get into 'the zone', as they say, if >> you're playing something that just feels solid and high quality, rather than >> flimsy and plasticy. And, for me, whether or not you can 'lose yourself' in >> an instrument is ultimately the marker of whether it's any good or not. >> >> In many ways Push makes much more sense than a traditional keyboard for >> performing and composing electronic music since it allows any scalar mapping >> of notes and makes that mapping intuitive by providing visual feedback. In >> this way it seems to let the player find relationships between notes and >> sounds that don't rigidly adhere to the c-major scale structure of the >> piano-style keyboard. >> >> This is how it should be for electronic music, which is not being limited >> to the physical mechanisms of objects like the piano. The piano keyboard >> was an elegant invention but it resulted to some degree from the physical >> requirements of whacking strings with little hammers. Electronic music is >> completely free from such physical connections but, with some expensive >> exceptions (e.g. the Haken Continuum), instrument or interface design has >> lagged a long way behind what programmers and sound designers have achieved. >> >> Push looks like a step in the right direction in that respect. It's not >> revolutionary in concept but it appears to have been very well done - at >> least I hope so! >> >> >> >> Philip. >> >> >> --On 07 March 2013 12:15 +0100 Per Boysen wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:36 AM, michael noble wrote: >>>> >>>> http://www.weareroli.com/ >>>> >>>> Anyone know anything more about this company or the controller? >>> >>> >>> >>> Looks cool, like a "piano submarine" :-) A little thin on information >>> that page, isn't it? From the video it seems as notes are located in >>> linear way, similar to a piano? >>> >>> I must say I'm more intrigued by Ableton's new instrument Push, due to >>> its non linear location of notes. The chromatic scale layout on Push >>> is based on rows differing by a fourths and this creates what to me >>> seems to very playable note locations. In fact, the hand patterns are >>> the same as if tapping a fourths tuned fretted string instrument. >>> Another aspect I like with the Push is that some notes appear at >>> several positions and can be played in unison but with different >>> attack/expression, this too in common with fretted string instruments. >>> >>> I've been using an Akai EWI4000s for some years and think it is the >>> most (musically) expressive MIDI controller instruments I've come >>> across. Since it is based on breath control rather than >>> hitting-something-with-a-hand velocity it a challenge to program good >>> synth patches to play. I think Yamaha was great in the 80s with breath >>> control but since then not much product development seems to have >>> happend im this area. THat's odd, thinking about how a simple hose to >>> blow into increases the expressiveness of any simple keyboard. >>> >>> Greetings from Sweden >>> >>> Per Boysen >>> www.perboysen.com >>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 20:14:50 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B7E51834D1; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:14:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :message-id:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to :x-gm-message-state; bh=XumF+Cap3EjrFfY+jXP3LSRQO5aOYZnVZRcITfFlMvY=; b=IO5oWBzfeUj4b9j6szItTng25Fj7yICaKu0juBQXifdc/cyg77d4KYra6xFs41apwc SrrZzAes6u0itipGPNUPE7RHpp+VHdoj9zdOwZZzl4/s3ijlfPpU5CteFx+woh8KitqK ln4+aaMnW8Pldr2Fpb/YOj2nWWaNJJzcRIFbaxRIiJblSJLr3mK1nIaPYIT75NQr90lN +1laOEwWwwzvF3c8VpzqXsrLn5FstfDrptckxFozwu4IkAlXkBzOU3ePYeB6zlOxo4dg J1RmePlvik/ddICGK/kTy5UHiD19aOv0IokMzIHpLhMXkt/lWFfJ3Ju51h8XvS5E6Q34 KSTQ== X-Received: by 10.49.94.238 with SMTP id df14mr28674260qeb.44.1362687289088; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 12:14:49 -0800 (PST) References: <756584AA-0E52-41FB-9150-856963F0D016@charter.net> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1FFBC446-FA84-43F5-98F4-E0E64911D5D1 Message-Id: <1A7925F7-8CC1-4DFE-A584-F532C3E70B69@teddyjam.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10B141) From: "Teddyjam.com" Subject: Re: OT Studio (Was Re: interesting controller ) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 15:14:45 -0500 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn2RkP/TyQGixdrRwACpNsiK+KCdeMe0t+FR7aU+cj3IQw1DZejYe17UfUVppMm6ci9peOi Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120453 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:14:50 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1FFBC446-FA84-43F5-98F4-E0E64911D5D1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wow.... Great facility!!!! Blueberries are my favorite Teddy Kumpel http://teddyjam.com On Mar 7, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Richard Sales wrote: > Thanks Kevin, >=20 > It was definitely a stroke of luck. We bought it in 03, when the Canadian= dollar was at a very low point compared to US dollar. We just sort of stum= bled on it and I fell totally in love (think Richard Dreyfus in CLose Encoun= ters of the 3rd Kind). Had no idea how expensive etc it was to emigrate. J= ust dove in and didn't look back. >=20 > Of course, you haven't gone wrong! I know you know that. >=20 > When the music really takes over, there is no environment, no farm, no cit= y, no self. The rest is sort of technical/psychic support. >=20 > When the big room is done, maybe we can have some kind of looping event he= re. Will have to sniff around for support for something like that from our c= ommunity. No fun playing to empty chairs! =20 >=20 > We did festivals for a few years here and they were huge fun. The last on= e drew around 500 people. But it was a LOT of work for very little money fo= r us or the artists. Hopefully the big room will be less effort. >=20 > R > www.glasswing.com=20 --Apple-Mail-1FFBC446-FA84-43F5-98F4-E0E64911D5D1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Wow.... Great facility!!!! Blueberries are my favorite

Teddy Kumpel

On Mar 7, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Richard Sales <richard@glasswing.com> wrote:

Thanks Kevin,

It was definitely a stroke of luck.  We bought it in 03, when the Canadian dollar was at a very low point compared to US dollar.  We just sort of stumbled on it and I fell totally in love (think Richard Dreyfus in CLose Encounters of the 3rd Kind).  Had no idea how expensive etc it was to emigrate.  Just dove in and didn't look back.

Of course, you haven't gone wrong!  I know you know that.

When the music really takes over, there is no environment, no farm, no city, no self.  The rest is sort of technical/psychic support.

When the big room is done, maybe we can have some kind of looping event here.  Will have to sniff around for support for something like that from our community.  No fun playing to empty chairs!  

We did festivals for a few years here and they were huge fun.  The last one drew around 500 people.  But it was a LOT of work for very little money for us or the artists.  Hopefully the big room will be less effort.

R
--Apple-Mail-1FFBC446-FA84-43F5-98F4-E0E64911D5D1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 20:28:32 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65B381834D0; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:28:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wofVEH46dpQUIyFrWvG2OFbRZgTD6gDNsUED/l67fok=; b=nbMYk9y4LYkgQhMukrlmBuzNXKRWTCxOBP13NzzIFuIT3PQmm1HV0K7CZFDn7C9N8x l7CgaKdUe9/u1DT0Hp6xcv0YQ+a+mwbN1Zabfy5Lv/pGucdQBX8WQplTt/yZ4mObUOt5 4hECCqJES6hasgj46QwSzxPrJzU24BrGE27wEP/wv64eGyQpDTH6yPNkS24+lAj7mXkC FLPfaNC8wvHoAXh7Jo8WcUgefSKp02B/o0lsI5M+DIErMPcMnwRhm5h526+CPU7wHo9J NXxtdgYfj/0rhZNNHkg7kfHYI6rfl7+lrhdU8zBWRpbDgW0d14T4O2V6I3nbUJBPtJ7a MVcg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.2.227 with SMTP id 3mr26741762oex.113.1362688111779; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 12:28:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <667D12E2-4035-4D3F-87CC-746E6BE28E31@johnfloridis.com> References: <9B2DC050-0AE4-43C7-A574-6905641F0299@johnfloridis.com> <667D12E2-4035-4D3F-87CC-746E6BE28E31@johnfloridis.com> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 15:28:31 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EDP, circa 2003 From: George Turcotte To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb1f620d7a90104d75b8cba Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120454 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:28:32 +0000 (UTC) --e89a8fb1f620d7a90104d75b8cba Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 They sell around 8 bills as I reckon with an EFT-7, latest software and maximum memory. I lucked out and and scored mine for $600 with a roadcase, but now it's on the fritz. I'm am in dire need of an EDP asap. Oh, and I have *cash.* GT On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 3:05 PM, john floridis wrote: > Thank you Mark, I didn't think I was speaking in code or anything :-) > > I also might be looking to move a Boomerang, circa 2011. > > JF > > --e89a8fb1f620d7a90104d75b8cba Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable They sell around 8 bills as I reckon with an EFT-7, latest software and max= imum memory. I lucked out and and scored mine for $600 with a roadcase, but= now it's on the fritz. I'm am in dire need of an EDP asap. Oh, and= I have cash.

GT

On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at = 3:05 PM, john floridis <john@johnfloridis.com> wrote:
Thank you Mark, I didn't think I was speaking in code or anything :-)
I also might be looking to move a Boomerang, circa 2011.

JF


--e89a8fb1f620d7a90104d75b8cba-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 20:29:39 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8EDDC1834CB; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:29:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=cQFZqLgh1EyvTr0pLC8P8iHAs6sXQCVc7VTS/JrS6qI=; b=FgtQw0nZ38DLpzyI7S7UvKWVVM4/YUOujO3o1AcZjnVFGwL0/SW2MawgTlLz4DqcSH iZJy7z/2xCL5PdiYjrrBkAX5SXdyUUpECv60vwfEQcO/u0dO/fLWMZf5r8Cc5FX+dtG/ 1EQ6eO4WeF/b0fZEABs45HBC9zvElCk+LwinCeF8ZvfPhUqS0y519eL4qpumSHjTubKE rWORFR+e6o8mttl7CDWHLUs6l6iYdRAO7YIdsoR+mOrwOKUJjn0nYqkjRf9gukBRz1Sc z1vSmgTm2hS4qzWiga889s3a3+7zMcSCGr9TCY1xsS9oC+CJ3nA5ddMylaLW0Gil6GjG DX8A== X-Received: by 10.181.11.198 with SMTP id ek6mr40820806wid.1.1362688178490; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 12:29:38 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [74.95.204.173] In-Reply-To: References: From: Amy Lee Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 12:28:57 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: interesting controller/Ableton Push To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043c084ad1a71c04d75b90a0 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkfNDybiPJ4R5tJU3a1EJY0yO3wQMe7qTJ5vH6GTv59ZuQLk0kmCkw8dka0HDf34waoFUqp Resent-Message-ID: <69Z9-C.A.1EH.ziPORB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120455 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:29:39 +0000 (UTC) --f46d043c084ad1a71c04d75b90a0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 :) I know members of this list span the globe, but for those who are in the San Francisco area I am trying to book a special presentation of Push for the April gathering of the San Francisco Electronic Music Meetup ( http://meetup.com/sf-emm). I'll know more in a couple of days (hopefully). If there are certain things people want a demo of, I can put that request to the presenter. :) Amy On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > @mark, > > If you connect a USB cable to a laptop running Live 9.x it does indeed > "work like that". It actually lets you control the Live application > from the pad, very much like an extension of the well known Roland TR > step sequencing concept. > > But I'm more interested in simply playing MIDI notes from it, just > like any MIDI piano keyboard - but with a smarter chromatic keyboard > layout. In order to do that you only need to open a virtual instrument > in whatever laptop application picking up at the other end of the USB > cable. Practically no tweaking at all. > > If you want to use it to control a custom looping rig you may very > well there will of course be a lot of mapping and tweaking. Maybe you > were actually talking only about this third alternative? > > But for using it as an instrument that plays > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:58 PM, mark francombe > wrote: > > Jesus Christ.. Does it work like that out of the box? I think not... ! > > Can you imagine the hellish days and days of fiddly little assigning and > > mapping and tweaking... Looks so much like a job... not fun at all! > > > > I bet they sell a lot based on the lights tho... vewwy vewwy pweeedy! > > I might get one just to go on the wall! > > > > Mark > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Philip Conway < > Philip.Conway@bristol.ac.uk> > > wrote: > >> > >> I pre-ordered Push yesterday. It's a sizable lump of money for a > >> controller - especially one that I haven't been able to try out first > hand - > >> but I couldn't resist the introductory offer. It'll be here in just > 12-14 > >> weeks!... > >> > >> I'm quite excited about its potential as an instrument. One appealing > >> thing is that, if the early reviews are to be believed, it is very well > made > >> and feels heavy and solid. This is no small thing for a musical > instrument. > >> It's much easier to 'lose yourself' and get into 'the zone', as they > say, if > >> you're playing something that just feels solid and high quality, rather > than > >> flimsy and plasticy. And, for me, whether or not you can 'lose > yourself' in > >> an instrument is ultimately the marker of whether it's any good or not. > >> > >> In many ways Push makes much more sense than a traditional keyboard for > >> performing and composing electronic music since it allows any scalar > mapping > >> of notes and makes that mapping intuitive by providing visual feedback. > In > >> this way it seems to let the player find relationships between notes and > >> sounds that don't rigidly adhere to the c-major scale structure of the > >> piano-style keyboard. > >> > >> This is how it should be for electronic music, which is not being > limited > >> to the physical mechanisms of objects like the piano. The piano > keyboard > >> was an elegant invention but it resulted to some degree from the > physical > >> requirements of whacking strings with little hammers. Electronic music > is > >> completely free from such physical connections but, with some expensive > >> exceptions (e.g. the Haken Continuum), instrument or interface design > has > >> lagged a long way behind what programmers and sound designers have > achieved. > >> > >> Push looks like a step in the right direction in that respect. It's not > >> revolutionary in concept but it appears to have been very well done - at > >> least I hope so! > >> > >> > >> > >> Philip. > >> > >> > >> --On 07 March 2013 12:15 +0100 Per Boysen wrote: > >> > >>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:36 AM, michael noble > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> http://www.weareroli.com/ > >>>> > >>>> Anyone know anything more about this company or the controller? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Looks cool, like a "piano submarine" :-) A little thin on information > >>> that page, isn't it? From the video it seems as notes are located in > >>> linear way, similar to a piano? > >>> > >>> I must say I'm more intrigued by Ableton's new instrument Push, due to > >>> its non linear location of notes. The chromatic scale layout on Push > >>> is based on rows differing by a fourths and this creates what to me > >>> seems to very playable note locations. In fact, the hand patterns are > >>> the same as if tapping a fourths tuned fretted string instrument. > >>> Another aspect I like with the Push is that some notes appear at > >>> several positions and can be played in unison but with different > >>> attack/expression, this too in common with fretted string instruments. > >>> > >>> I've been using an Akai EWI4000s for some years and think it is the > >>> most (musically) expressive MIDI controller instruments I've come > >>> across. Since it is based on breath control rather than > >>> hitting-something-with-a-hand velocity it a challenge to program good > >>> synth patches to play. I think Yamaha was great in the 80s with breath > >>> control but since then not much product development seems to have > >>> happend im this area. THat's odd, thinking about how a simple hose to > >>> blow into increases the expressiveness of any simple keyboard. > >>> > >>> Greetings from Sweden > >>> > >>> Per Boysen > >>> www.perboysen.com > >>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Mark Francombe > > www.markfrancombe.com > > www.ordoabkhao.com > > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > > http://www.looop.no > > twitter @markfrancombe > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ > > --f46d043c084ad1a71c04d75b90a0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<plug> :)

I know memb= ers of this list span the globe, but for those who are in the San Francisco= area I am trying to book a special presentation of Push for the April gath= ering of the San Francisco Electronic Music Meetup (http://meetup.com/sf-emm). I'll know more in a couple= of days (hopefully).

If there are certain things people want a demo of, I can put= that request to the presenter. :)

Amy


On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
@mark,

If you connect a USB cable to a laptop running Live 9.x it does indeed
"work like that". It actually lets you control the Live applicati= on
from the pad, very much like an extension of the well known Roland TR
step sequencing concept.

But I'm more interested in simply playing MIDI notes from it, just
like any MIDI piano keyboard - but with a smarter chromatic keyboard
layout. In order to do that you only need to open a virtual instrument
in whatever laptop application picking up at the other end of the USB
cable. Practically no tweaking at all.

If you want to use it to control a custom looping rig you may very
well there will of course be a lot of mapping and tweaking. Maybe you
were actually talking only about this third alternative?

But for using it as an instrument that plays

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.y= outube.com/perboysen


On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:58 P= M, mark francombe <mark@markfr= ancombe.com> wrote:
> Jesus Christ.. Does it work like that out of the box? I think not... !=
> Can you imagine the hellish days and days of fiddly little assigning a= nd
> mapping and tweaking... Looks so much like a job... not fun at all! >
> I bet they sell a lot based on the lights tho... vewwy vewwy pweeedy!<= br> > I might get one just to go on the wall!
>
> Mark
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Philip Conway <Philip.Conway@bristol.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>>
>> I pre-ordered Push yesterday. =A0It's a sizable lump of money = for a
>> controller - especially one that I haven't been able to try ou= t first hand -
>> but I couldn't resist the introductory offer. =A0It'll be = here in just 12-14
>> weeks!...
>>
>> I'm quite excited about its potential as an instrument. =A0One= appealing
>> thing is that, if the early reviews are to be believed, it is very= well made
>> and feels heavy and solid. =A0This is no small thing for a musical= instrument.
>> It's much easier to 'lose yourself' and get into '= the zone', as they say, if
>> you're playing something that just feels solid and high qualit= y, rather than
>> flimsy and plasticy. =A0And, for me, whether or not you can 'l= ose yourself' in
>> an instrument is ultimately the marker of whether it's any goo= d or not.
>>
>> In many ways Push makes much more sense than a traditional keyboar= d for
>> performing and composing electronic music since it allows any scal= ar mapping
>> of notes and makes that mapping intuitive by providing visual feed= back. =A0In
>> this way it seems to let the player find relationships between not= es and
>> sounds that don't rigidly adhere to the c-major scale structur= e of the
>> piano-style keyboard.
>>
>> This is how it should be for electronic music, which is not being = limited
>> to the physical mechanisms of objects like the piano. =A0The piano= keyboard
>> was an elegant invention but it resulted to some degree from the p= hysical
>> requirements of whacking strings with little hammers. =A0Electroni= c music is
>> completely free from such physical connections but, with some expe= nsive
>> exceptions (e.g. the Haken Continuum), instrument or interface des= ign has
>> lagged a long way behind what programmers and sound designers have= achieved.
>>
>> Push looks like a step in the right direction in that respect. =A0= It's not
>> revolutionary in concept but it appears to have been very well don= e - at
>> least I hope so!
>>
>>
>>
>> Philip.
>>
>>
>> --On 07 March 2013 12:15 +0100 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:36 AM, michael noble <looplog@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ht= tp://www.weareroli.com/
>>>>
>>>> Anyone know anything more about this company or the contro= ller?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Looks cool, like a "piano submarine" :-) =A0A little= thin on information
>>> that page, isn't it? From the video it seems as notes are = located in
>>> linear way, similar to a piano?
>>>
>>> I must say I'm more intrigued by Ableton's new instrum= ent Push, due to
>>> its non linear location of notes. The chromatic scale layout o= n Push
>>> is based on rows differing by a fourths and this creates what = to me
>>> seems to very playable note locations. In fact, the hand patte= rns are
>>> the same as if tapping a fourths tuned fretted string instrume= nt.
>>> Another aspect I like with the Push is that some notes appear = at
>>> several positions and can be played in unison but with differe= nt
>>> attack/expression, this too in common with fretted string inst= ruments.
>>>
>>> I've been using an Akai EWI4000s for some years and think = it is the
>>> most (musically) expressive MIDI controller instruments I'= ve come
>>> across. Since it is based on breath control rather than
>>> hitting-something-with-a-hand velocity it a challenge to progr= am good
>>> synth patches to play. I think Yamaha was great in the 80s wit= h breath
>>> control but since then not much product development seems to h= ave
>>> happend im this area. THat's odd, thinking about how a sim= ple hose to
>>> blow into increases the expressiveness of any simple keyboard.=
>>>
>>> Greetings from Sweden
>>>
>>> Per Boysen
>>> www.per= boysen.com
>>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen
>>>
>>
>>
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--f46d043c084ad1a71c04d75b90a0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 20:40:21 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C4E31834D1; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:40:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=QhKSmelhEcn/SoCcB/FFlvJ4I/1tAcWATp8tR0afbxI=; b=A1qe0/xsn7vcneo37PjIdZ/rPbIeSMr0wtv5nNRAxclGnCTL17N2kX042tgDB8stFa SnPTVfv+SRyfxKr7h7rUoA0+u0XlJRaKnoHNwKLLDsvBFjU9LELHuQfcwuBb081rpLaC Y/8u2WKBf8tKsyHZNePmuY9q5xxgMA4ypyiK7Xlu0m/ZtTHQ3Kl4dZZ3b25xEHPXWgRR kbP7R4eGBLb1kiF1W9MsZ5lcOLyo42w5NHThRotO1lh+ooTmcrwbse3gAclV872LEB2v OnNyXlp3rPlBBoI+NoOnUg6566ncmtKEAXMAU9UqJ3giTsTdcwVd+jjz0timDwuN2KAx xvXA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.176.138 with SMTP id ci10mr11852219vdc.35.1362688820528; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 12:40:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 21:40:20 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: interesting controller/Ableton Push From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120456 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:40:21 +0000 (UTC) Unfortunately I can't go, but it would be great to see a MIDI implementation chart for Push. I've learned from the Abe forum that Push is not programable so it would be awesome just to know exactly what CC#s are sent out from the different knobs and ribbon. Knowing that one could estimate how useful Push would be for generic electronics control. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Amy Lee wrote: > :) > > I know members of this list span the globe, but for those who are in the San > Francisco area I am trying to book a special presentation of Push for the > April gathering of the San Francisco Electronic Music Meetup > (http://meetup.com/sf-emm). I'll know more in a couple of days (hopefully). > > If there are certain things people want a demo of, I can put that request to > the presenter. :) > > Amy > > > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> @mark, >> >> If you connect a USB cable to a laptop running Live 9.x it does indeed >> "work like that". It actually lets you control the Live application >> from the pad, very much like an extension of the well known Roland TR >> step sequencing concept. >> >> But I'm more interested in simply playing MIDI notes from it, just >> like any MIDI piano keyboard - but with a smarter chromatic keyboard >> layout. In order to do that you only need to open a virtual instrument >> in whatever laptop application picking up at the other end of the USB >> cable. Practically no tweaking at all. >> >> If you want to use it to control a custom looping rig you may very >> well there will of course be a lot of mapping and tweaking. Maybe you >> were actually talking only about this third alternative? >> >> But for using it as an instrument that plays >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.perboysen.com >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:58 PM, mark francombe >> wrote: >> > Jesus Christ.. Does it work like that out of the box? I think not... ! >> > Can you imagine the hellish days and days of fiddly little assigning and >> > mapping and tweaking... Looks so much like a job... not fun at all! >> > >> > I bet they sell a lot based on the lights tho... vewwy vewwy pweeedy! >> > I might get one just to go on the wall! >> > >> > Mark >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Philip Conway >> > >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> I pre-ordered Push yesterday. It's a sizable lump of money for a >> >> controller - especially one that I haven't been able to try out first >> >> hand - >> >> but I couldn't resist the introductory offer. It'll be here in just >> >> 12-14 >> >> weeks!... >> >> >> >> I'm quite excited about its potential as an instrument. One appealing >> >> thing is that, if the early reviews are to be believed, it is very well >> >> made >> >> and feels heavy and solid. This is no small thing for a musical >> >> instrument. >> >> It's much easier to 'lose yourself' and get into 'the zone', as they >> >> say, if >> >> you're playing something that just feels solid and high quality, rather >> >> than >> >> flimsy and plasticy. And, for me, whether or not you can 'lose >> >> yourself' in >> >> an instrument is ultimately the marker of whether it's any good or not. >> >> >> >> In many ways Push makes much more sense than a traditional keyboard for >> >> performing and composing electronic music since it allows any scalar >> >> mapping >> >> of notes and makes that mapping intuitive by providing visual feedback. >> >> In >> >> this way it seems to let the player find relationships between notes >> >> and >> >> sounds that don't rigidly adhere to the c-major scale structure of the >> >> piano-style keyboard. >> >> >> >> This is how it should be for electronic music, which is not being >> >> limited >> >> to the physical mechanisms of objects like the piano. The piano >> >> keyboard >> >> was an elegant invention but it resulted to some degree from the >> >> physical >> >> requirements of whacking strings with little hammers. Electronic music >> >> is >> >> completely free from such physical connections but, with some expensive >> >> exceptions (e.g. the Haken Continuum), instrument or interface design >> >> has >> >> lagged a long way behind what programmers and sound designers have >> >> achieved. >> >> >> >> Push looks like a step in the right direction in that respect. It's >> >> not >> >> revolutionary in concept but it appears to have been very well done - >> >> at >> >> least I hope so! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Philip. >> >> >> >> >> >> --On 07 March 2013 12:15 +0100 Per Boysen wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:36 AM, michael noble >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> http://www.weareroli.com/ >> >>>> >> >>>> Anyone know anything more about this company or the controller? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Looks cool, like a "piano submarine" :-) A little thin on information >> >>> that page, isn't it? From the video it seems as notes are located in >> >>> linear way, similar to a piano? >> >>> >> >>> I must say I'm more intrigued by Ableton's new instrument Push, due to >> >>> its non linear location of notes. The chromatic scale layout on Push >> >>> is based on rows differing by a fourths and this creates what to me >> >>> seems to very playable note locations. In fact, the hand patterns are >> >>> the same as if tapping a fourths tuned fretted string instrument. >> >>> Another aspect I like with the Push is that some notes appear at >> >>> several positions and can be played in unison but with different >> >>> attack/expression, this too in common with fretted string instruments. >> >>> >> >>> I've been using an Akai EWI4000s for some years and think it is the >> >>> most (musically) expressive MIDI controller instruments I've come >> >>> across. Since it is based on breath control rather than >> >>> hitting-something-with-a-hand velocity it a challenge to program good >> >>> synth patches to play. I think Yamaha was great in the 80s with breath >> >>> control but since then not much product development seems to have >> >>> happend im this area. THat's odd, thinking about how a simple hose to >> >>> blow into increases the expressiveness of any simple keyboard. >> >>> >> >>> Greetings from Sweden >> >>> >> >>> Per Boysen >> >>> www.perboysen.com >> >>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Mark Francombe >> > www.markfrancombe.com >> > www.ordoabkhao.com >> > http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> > http://www.looop.no >> > twitter @markfrancombe >> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 20:41:00 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 708351834D4; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:41:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date :to; bh=UlkQM4WqiKr1pH8CTrwXU08UOfoCIJsJvVUS9hyCGNI=; b=jcJM8rw9EuVQKE/tHo5DrCWFN0s7Njryw2THxe8JNi8Y15KHxdwtWCe7UusnA+B4yf l1CaBrxWvrigDOIBRbqHxST4GEddB7wU0KsEnSt0tXG6sLKYZPei1+MhVlUK6j2Xvhy3 kFrpoTERB8qcnZjsunZiW7mzXMnntHF0y7jpAMoDw+z2J/fimc91I2pJEsfMPakOzNfm MQaA7yAP46voNE3ArRM1+66BMrcR+dp1ASBkEcDvIRru58LKC8ixFCgyB42PC3Xf0ryL EIxWG24VdnYDBwX1PPNonu8xykAo8dCYBTYDBRkuQEsPdNN1TKo0VwNZ/7uOXJQ8YVtS lFJg== X-Received: by 10.66.155.170 with SMTP id vx10mr197603pab.152.1362688858952; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 12:40:58 -0800 (PST) References: <9B2DC050-0AE4-43C7-A574-6905641F0299@johnfloridis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9D78C997-601E-454D-8ECE-6B4E9C062388 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Cc: loopers-delight X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10B146) From: Toddbert Subject: Re: EDP, circa 2003 Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 12:40:57 -0800 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120457 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:41:00 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-9D78C997-601E-454D-8ECE-6B4E9C062388 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm not being obtuse. I genuinely did not know that edp=3Dechoplex. Sheesh. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 7, 2013, at 12:02 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Todd, you are being obtuse.. seeing as the EDP is the single most often di= scussed looper on this list!! However, I had a Wasp, and a Gnat... and they w= ere fab synths.. wish I still had on... but I ust got a Wasp Tshirt... and I= get knowing nods in the street... >=20 > M >=20 >=20 > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:12 PM, john floridis wrot= e: >> Oh, my bad....Echoplex, as In Echoplex Digital Pro plus. >> JF >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --Apple-Mail-9D78C997-601E-454D-8ECE-6B4E9C062388 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I'm not being obtuse. I genuinely did not know that edp=echoplex. Sheesh.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 7, 2013, at 12:02 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:

Todd, you are being obtuse.. seeing as the EDP is the single most often discussed looper on this list!! However, I had a Wasp, and a Gnat... and they were fab synths.. wish I still had on... but I ust got a Wasp Tshirt... and I get knowing nods in the street...

M


On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:12 PM, john floridis <john@johnfloridis.com> wrote:
Oh, my bad....Echoplex, as In Echoplex Digital Pro plus.
JF




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--Apple-Mail-9D78C997-601E-454D-8ECE-6B4E9C062388-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 20:44:43 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E2B61834D3; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:44:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 371967.62689.bm@omp1012.mail.ird.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1362689081; bh=O+QucisFBEzAvRxVc6L3k2sxBgD4Si+Ii3Fd66iGZeQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3FGJYcZLcwpENglk1pcF8EhR1yCJ0jyB5ez87cy086RoJPp0W8uObxY3+EQmaGUvtWcUIwlXgSxe0BY067HPw3W/kkHzyuSjEdHs94qtw2GtLdm2dUOynZ6W+IoOTk/ZyFVfEZIGv05or8jabolR2tzPhyoM3NaCkuCHrvkn6Fw= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EIl5hmv7aQa3hXuLKg6WsgH1Qkgq8jhTTkpa1ydnn3p2HUc3kIOFynLjrDFHcd0Ehpks1Mn7LIu7Cf17HQTaU1pmKuEmb2MH3r/mrYrfwQjWIsvcNIsN02FW8r/nfVSpbaYByozGEaro6m4HAseR9GW1nIPNpVEQd/wr9KjSEOo=; X-YMail-OSG: T5LMOZYVM1l3gFPu.65kgpeyro65IWTv2SwCQw.UB.vjT_c MfQGpOld__6E7Jw7hdHVcmRfod80N2Dun2uptftO2GU45bidUXSIq0V2klbM 0v3.BfHDYEzGbcuBJIFXj7M3mRf2yNXN4sTDfaKdy.p6l72tg44UIGg8pTcc WUC8MN.9hxH8_9P_4DYW1uhlH_ia.DndOZ09BMe1FxdQOKmmz9g8dEHipnRq sGzYeGJlln0cEVF9NAuNxNYzdk0ovN7hCJysv04ci6e4JFx9idHokB80qlqF OID.wHghxQkSxakkpLB_.MmkKUmBj.xLeyPnrtNg0pvNXSR7tRn7lapx.Ffk jYRsNgPKf2PhtYvQVe48tZ3_2toKqrvYrb7wztOGThYayV_FL5s7H9jo1iaW MAzURgPdFrVdveP9c97UsLcO.LM6K96NyMF5w7Pt0xzXqwnvejN4yvhLBVqN fGU54AxxMWsBlZEOELnatEXpjAqy8NupLoeF6NQ1MImuwFJNDxZRekuqwfHF UcTaZ0THZF5P8NCbiemhGp9SS7IuKCy88PPRnxJ6KxFTM68wGnCi7c6J7XcV zW8EfHFOUr2X9PLc2xBDtyWbUNnLqGprEjz6y4xpiCdsZ.nxPFnO_R1H38.R v5lbj_fBd0Adya8PLS37UAsoRvMryBTk6maXcQRuXavlHElZ6sIqbsgN9bcR oKLcjVPyo4efdH0Kb2ZCoAmGf62rk628nVbPxqCH4HLJF04Fh2Y9XXIfVSAJ oa56.E.4h5MBp1B0SINEbVOH5X4Hw3DDlAYj1VrPUd8AmSqXAFpDUIPx75Yc pog7frLoeQoB0RSpYrC37aa8Zrl9a_NKwZPVW6wgOJyavPtkuePOFQonBH1E SpES9HllG4ACEAYQr_tQnjE1JtrzTZtEsD48ibdly4tPkp.uJXbF2p5SqSvD mGHjYJZRrAaYQC12hfzKLfUs2ekVktxwl00ZF0.y.gg-- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,SSBzYXcgaXQgaGVyZSBpbiBCZXJsaW4uIGxvb2tzIHdlbGwgbWFkZS4gVGhlIGd1eSBkb2luZyB0aGUgZGVtbyBvbmx5IGhhZCBpdCBhIHNob3J0IHRpbWUgYW5kIHNlZW1lZCBjb21mb3J0YWJsZSB3aXRoIGl0LgoKSWYgSSBnb3QgaXQgcmlnaHQgeW91IGNhbm5vdCBlZGl0IHlvdXIgb3duIHNjYWxlcyBmb3IgdGhlIG1vbWVudCBidXQgdGhpcyBzaG91bGQgYmUgcG9zc2libGUgc29vbiBlbm91Z2guCgpJdCBjZXJ0YWlubHkgaXMgYSBncmVhdCBpbnRlcmZhY2UgZm9yIExpdmUsIGhvdyB3ZWxsIGlzIHBlcmYBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.135.514 References: Message-ID: <1362689080.42571.YahooMailNeo@web171701.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:44:40 +0000 (GMT) From: Antony Hequet Reply-To: Antony Hequet Subject: Re: interesting controller/Ableton Push To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-75644646-1502232912-1362689080=:42571" Resent-Message-ID: <8lXVM.A.gbH.6wPORB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120458 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:44:42 +0000 (UTC) ---75644646-1502232912-1362689080=:42571 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I saw it here in Berlin. looks well made. The guy doing the demo only had i= t a short time and seemed comfortable with it.=0A=0AIf I got it right you c= annot edit your own scales for the moment but this should be possible soon = enough.=0A=0AIt certainly is a great interface for Live, how well is perfor= ms as a MIDI controller remains to be discovered, and probably a matter of = taste...=0A=0AANtony Hequet=0Apoet composer martial artist=0A=0A=0A________= ________________________=0A De=A0: Per Boysen =0A=C0= =A0: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =0AEnvoy=E9 le : Jeudi 7 mars 2013= 21h40=0AObjet=A0: Re: interesting controller/Ableton Push=0A =0AUnfortunat= ely I can't go, but it would be great to see a MIDI=0Aimplementation chart = for Push. I've learned from the Abe forum that=0APush is not programable so= it would be awesome just to know exactly=0Awhat CC#s are sent out from the= different knobs and ribbon. Knowing=0Athat one could estimate how useful P= ush would be for generic=0Aelectronics control.=0A=0AGreetings from Sweden= =0A=0APer Boysen=0Awww.perboysen.com=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/perboysen=0A= =0A=0AOn Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Amy Lee wrote:= =0A> :)=0A>=0A> I know members of this list span the globe, but for = those who are in the San=0A> Francisco area I am trying to book a special p= resentation of Push for the=0A> April gathering of the San Francisco Electr= onic Music Meetup=0A> (http://meetup.com/sf-emm). I'll know more in a coupl= e of days (hopefully).=0A>=0A> If there are certain things people want a de= mo of, I can put that request to=0A> the presenter. :)=0A>=0A> Amy=0A>=0A>= =0A>=0A> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Per Boysen = wrote:=0A>>=0A>> @mark,=0A>>=0A>> If you connect a USB cable to a laptop ru= nning Live 9.x it does indeed=0A>> "work like that". It actually lets you c= ontrol the Live application=0A>> from the pad, very much like an extension = of the well known Roland TR=0A>> step sequencing concept.=0A>>=0A>> But I'm= more interested in simply playing MIDI notes from it, just=0A>> like any M= IDI piano keyboard - but with a smarter chromatic keyboard=0A>> layout. In = order to do that you only need to open a virtual instrument=0A>> in whateve= r laptop application picking up at the other end of the USB=0A>> cable. Pra= ctically no tweaking at all.=0A>>=0A>> If you want to use it to control a c= ustom looping rig you may very=0A>> well there will of course be a lot of m= apping and tweaking. Maybe you=0A>> were actually talking only about this t= hird alternative?=0A>>=0A>> But for using it as an instrument that plays=0A= >>=0A>> Greetings from Sweden=0A>>=0A>> Per Boysen=0A>> www.perboysen.com= =0A>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen=0A>>=0A>>=0A>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 a= t 8:58 PM, mark francombe =0A>> wrote:=0A>> > Jesus= Christ.. Does it work like that out of the box? I think not... !=0A>> > Ca= n you imagine the hellish days and days of fiddly little assigning and=0A>>= > mapping and tweaking... Looks so much like a job... not fun at all!=0A>>= >=0A>> > I bet they sell a lot based on the lights tho... vewwy vewwy pwee= edy!=0A>> > I might get one just to go on the wall!=0A>> >=0A>> > Mark=0A>>= >=0A>> >=0A>> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Philip Conway=0A>> > =0A>> > wrote:=0A>> >>=0A>> >> I pre-ordered Push y= esterday.=A0 It's a sizable lump of money for a=0A>> >> controller - especi= ally one that I haven't been able to try out first=0A>> >> hand -=0A>> >> b= ut I couldn't resist the introductory offer.=A0 It'll be here in just=0A>> = >> 12-14=0A>> >> weeks!...=0A>> >>=0A>> >> I'm quite excited about its pote= ntial as an instrument.=A0 One appealing=0A>> >> thing is that, if the earl= y reviews are to be believed, it is very well=0A>> >> made=0A>> >> and feel= s heavy and solid.=A0 This is no small thing for a musical=0A>> >> instrume= nt.=0A>> >> It's much easier to 'lose yourself' and get into 'the zone', as= they=0A>> >> say, if=0A>> >> you're playing something that just feels soli= d and high quality, rather=0A>> >> than=0A>> >> flimsy and plasticy.=A0 And= , for me, whether or not you can 'lose=0A>> >> yourself' in=0A>> >> an inst= rument is ultimately the marker of whether it's any good or not.=0A>> >>=0A= >> >> In many ways Push makes much more sense than a traditional keyboard f= or=0A>> >> performing and composing electronic music since it allows any sc= alar=0A>> >> mapping=0A>> >> of notes and makes that mapping intuitive by p= roviding visual feedback.=0A>> >> In=0A>> >> this way it seems to let the p= layer find relationships between notes=0A>> >> and=0A>> >> sounds that don'= t rigidly adhere to the c-major scale structure of the=0A>> >> piano-style = keyboard.=0A>> >>=0A>> >> This is how it should be for electronic music, wh= ich is not being=0A>> >> limited=0A>> >> to the physical mechanisms of obje= cts like the piano.=A0 The piano=0A>> >> keyboard=0A>> >> was an elegant in= vention but it resulted to some degree from the=0A>> >> physical=0A>> >> re= quirements of whacking strings with little hammers.=A0 Electronic music=0A>= > >> is=0A>> >> completely free from such physical connections but, with so= me expensive=0A>> >> exceptions (e.g. the Haken Continuum), instrument or i= nterface design=0A>> >> has=0A>> >> lagged a long way behind what programme= rs and sound designers have=0A>> >> achieved.=0A>> >>=0A>> >> Push looks li= ke a step in the right direction in that respect.=A0 It's=0A>> >> not=0A>> = >> revolutionary in concept but it appears to have been very well done -=0A= >> >> at=0A>> >> least I hope so!=0A>> >>=0A>> >>=0A>> >>=0A>> >> Philip.= =0A>> >>=0A>> >>=0A>> >> --On 07 March 2013 12:15 +0100 Per Boysen wrote:=0A>> >>=0A>> >>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:36 AM, micha= el noble =0A>> >>> wrote:=0A>> >>>>=0A>> >>>> http://www= .weareroli.com/=0A>> >>>>=0A>> >>>> Anyone know anything more about this co= mpany or the controller?=0A>> >>>=0A>> >>>=0A>> >>>=0A>> >>> Looks cool, li= ke a "piano submarine" :-)=A0 A little thin on information=0A>> >>> that pa= ge, isn't it? From the video it seems as notes are located in=0A>> >>> line= ar way, similar to a piano?=0A>> >>>=0A>> >>> I must say I'm more intrigued= by Ableton's new instrument Push, due to=0A>> >>> its non linear location = of notes. The chromatic scale layout on Push=0A>> >>> is based on rows diff= ering by a fourths and this creates what to me=0A>> >>> seems to very playa= ble note locations. In fact, the hand patterns are=0A>> >>> the same as if = tapping a fourths tuned fretted string instrument.=0A>> >>> Another aspect = I like with the Push is that some notes appear at=0A>> >>> several position= s and can be played in unison but with different=0A>> >>> attack/expression= , this too in common with fretted string instruments.=0A>> >>>=0A>> >>> I'v= e been using an Akai EWI4000s for some years and think it is the=0A>> >>> m= ost (musically) expressive MIDI controller instruments I've come=0A>> >>> a= cross. Since it is based on breath control rather than=0A>> >>> hitting-som= ething-with-a-hand velocity it a challenge to program good=0A>> >>> synth p= atches to play. I think Yamaha was great in the 80s with breath=0A>> >>> co= ntrol but since then not much product development seems to have=0A>> >>> ha= ppend im this area. THat's odd, thinking about how a simple hose to=0A>> >>= > blow into increases the expressiveness of any simple keyboard.=0A>> >>>= =0A>> >>> Greetings from Sweden=0A>> >>>=0A>> >>> Per Boysen=0A>> >>> www.p= erboysen.com=0A>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen=0A>> >>>=0A>> >>=0A>= > >>=0A>> >>=0A>> >>=0A>> >=0A>> >=0A>> >=0A>> > --=0A>> > Mark Francombe= =0A>> > www.markfrancombe.com=0A>> > www.ordoabkhao.com=0A>> > http://vimeo= .com/user825094=0A>> > http://www.looop.no=0A>> > twitter @markfrancombe=0A= >> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/=0A>>=0A> ---75644646-1502232912-1362689080=:42571 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I saw it here in Berlin. looks well made. The= guy doing the demo only had it a short time and seemed comfortable with it= .

If I got it right you cannot edit your own scales for the mom= ent but this should be possible soon enough.

It certainly is a gr= eat interface for Live, how well is performs as a MIDI controller remains t= o be discovered, and probably a matter of taste...

ANtony Heq= uet
poet composer marti= al artist

De := Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
=C0 : Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=
Envoy=E9 le : Jeudi = 7 mars 2013 21h40
Objet : Re: interesting controller/Ableton Push

Unf= ortunately I can't go, but it would be great to see a MIDI
implementatio= n chart for Push. I've learned from the Abe forum that
Push is not progr= amable so it would be awesome just to know exactly
what CC#s are sent ou= t from the different knobs and ribbon. Knowing
that one could estimate how useful = Push would be for generic
electronics control.

Greetings from Swe= den

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.youtube.com/perboysen
<= br>
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Amy Lee <amy@jumpingrobot.co= m> wrote:
> <plug> :)
>
> I know members of = this list span the globe, but for those who are in the San
> Francisc= o area I am trying to book a special presentation of Push for the
> A= pril gathering of the San Francisco Electronic Music Meetup
> (http://meetup.com/sf-emm). I'll know more in a couple of days (hopefully).
>
> If the= re are certain things people want a demo of, I can put that request to
&= gt; the presenter. :)
>
> Amy
>
>
>
> On T= hu, Mar 7, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> = wrote:
>>
>> @mark,
>>
>> If you connec= t a USB cable to a laptop running Live 9.x it does indeed
>> "work= like that". It actually lets you control the Live application
>> = from the pad, very much like an extension of the well known Roland TR
&g= t;> step sequencing concept.
>>
>> But I'm more intere= sted in simply playing MIDI notes from it, just
>> like any MIDI p= iano keyboard - but with a smarter chromatic keyboard
>> layout. I= n order to do that you only need to open a virtual instrument
>> i= n whatever laptop application picking up at the other end of the USB
>= ;> cable. Practically no tweaking at all.
>>
>> If you want to use it to control a custom looping rig you may very
>>= ; well there will of course be a lot of mapping and tweaking. Maybe you
= >> were actually talking only about this third alternative?
>&g= t;
>> But for using it as an instrument that plays
>>
= >> Greetings from Sweden
>>
>> Per Boysen
>&g= t; www.perboysen.com
>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen
>>
&g= t;>
>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:58 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Jesu= s Christ.. Does it work like that out of the box? I think not... !
>&= gt; > Can you imagine the hellish days and days of fiddly little assigni= ng and
>> > mapping and tweaking... Looks so much like a job... not fun at all!
>> >
>> > I bet they sell a lot ba= sed on the lights tho... vewwy vewwy pweeedy!
>> > I might get = one just to go on the wall!
>> >
>> > Mark
>&= gt; >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 1:58 PM, = Philip Conway
>> > <Philip.Conway@bristol= .ac.uk>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >= ;> I pre-ordered Push yesterday.  It's a sizable lump of money for = a
>> >> controller - especially one that I haven't been able= to try out first
>> >> hand -
>> >> but I co= uldn't resist the introductory offer.  It'll be here in just
>&g= t; >> 12-14
>> >> weeks!...
>> >>
&g= t;> >> I'm quite excited about its potential as an instrument.  One appealing
>> >> thing is that, if the= early reviews are to be believed, it is very well
>> >> mad= e
>> >> and feels heavy and solid.  This is no small th= ing for a musical
>> >> instrument.
>> >> It'= s much easier to 'lose yourself' and get into 'the zone', as they
>&g= t; >> say, if
>> >> you're playing something that just= feels solid and high quality, rather
>> >> than
>>= >> flimsy and plasticy.  And, for me, whether or not you can 'l= ose
>> >> yourself' in
>> >> an instrument is= ultimately the marker of whether it's any good or not.
>> >>= ;
>> >> In many ways Push makes much more sense than a tradi= tional keyboard for
>> >> performing and composing electroni= c music since it allows any scalar
>> >> mapping
>> >> of notes and makes that mapping intuitive by = providing visual feedback.
>> >> In
>> >> thi= s way it seems to let the player find relationships between notes
>&g= t; >> and
>> >> sounds that don't rigidly adhere to th= e c-major scale structure of the
>> >> piano-style keyboard.=
>> >>
>> >> This is how it should be for ele= ctronic music, which is not being
>> >> limited
>> = >> to the physical mechanisms of objects like the piano.  The pi= ano
>> >> keyboard
>> >> was an elegant inven= tion but it resulted to some degree from the
>> >> physical<= br>>> >> requirements of whacking strings with little hammers.&= nbsp; Electronic music
>> >> is
>> >> complet= ely free from such physical connections but, with some expensive
>> >> exceptions (e.g. the Haken Continuum), inst= rument or interface design
>> >> has
>> >> la= gged a long way behind what programmers and sound designers have
>>= ; >> achieved.
>> >>
>> >> Push looks l= ike a step in the right direction in that respect.  It's
>> &= gt;> not
>> >> revolutionary in concept but it appears to= have been very well done -
>> >> at
>> >> le= ast I hope so!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >&g= t;
>> >> Philip.
>> >>
>> >>>> >> --On 07 March 2013 12:15 +0100 Per Boysen <perboy= sen@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> = On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:36 AM, michael noble <loo= plog@gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>= >>
>> >>>> http://www.weareroli.com/
>> >>>&g= t;
>> >>>> Anyone know anything more about this compan= y or the controller?
>> >>>
>> >>>
&= gt;> >>>
>> >>> Looks cool, like a "piano sub= marine" :-)  A little thin on information
>> >>> tha= t page, isn't it? From the video it seems as notes are located in
>&g= t; >>> linear way, similar to a piano?
>> >>>>> >>> I must say I'm more intrigued by Ableton's new instr= ument Push, due to
>> >>> its non linear location of note= s. The chromatic scale layout on Push
>> >>> is based on rows differing by a fourths and this creates what to me
>> >&g= t;> seems to very playable note locations. In fact, the hand patterns ar= e
>> >>> the same as if tapping a fourths tuned fretted s= tring instrument.
>> >>> Another aspect I like with the P= ush is that some notes appear at
>> >>> several positions= and can be played in unison but with different
>> >>> at= tack/expression, this too in common with fretted string instruments.
>= ;> >>>
>> >>> I've been using an Akai EWI4000= s for some years and think it is the
>> >>> most (musical= ly) expressive MIDI controller instruments I've come
>> >>&g= t; across. Since it is based on breath control rather than
>> >= >> hitting-something-with-a-hand velocity it a challenge to program g= ood
>> >>> synth patches to play. I think Yamaha was great in the 80s with breath
>> >>> control but sinc= e then not much product development seems to have
>> >>> = happend im this area. THat's odd, thinking about how a simple hose to
&g= t;> >>> blow into increases the expressiveness of any simple ke= yboard.
>> >>>
>> >>> Greetings from Sw= eden
>> >>>
>> >>> Per Boysen
>&g= t; >>> www.perboysen.com
>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/perbo= ysen
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>=
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >= ;
>> >
>> > --
>> > Mark Francombe
&= gt;> > www.markfrancombe.com
>> > www.ordoabkhao.com
&= gt;> > http://vimeo.com/user825094
>> > http://www.looop.no
>= > > twitter @markfrancombe
>> > http://www.flickr.com/photo= s/24478662@N00/
>>
>



---75644646-1502232912-1362689080=:42571-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 20:47:22 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D01271834DB; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:47:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer :in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version; bh=9L51q/leHYLrAq0aKA1x2J59JTgTxVl3hEsoFT9LzKQ=; b=rWJ6hszuQw5ko6TvDOlp1CdNz5dgRmKBce3JKGSSZF6QW5RhmWPW8HPwj4nNI7ZyhG DejCsYAreMgMpRA4Wjm4LSshr2sMAvog+B2oaYTWv6Yo9vOZ5Ds/PjD3LsRnGaJKRGO4 2nACjRSMozdBSTHD9LXeB8lQrKk0WOrpGE9+xGEa31h26jxUfi3V/nq8w4FGrLk5p+Ic y1u5KSYenPapL9vvQJlTLCzJy1w9GsGx2qlCH/VMKkjiuAOfMNy67Md7aLgucAELhwnB I68RZu4BCKaTfF8FfqcXVlcWK3ppAEwdUErtqKcxXnRX31XgpyQyYBO17yuy3ol9HMxu M4sw== X-Received: by 10.68.241.225 with SMTP id wl1mr55179935pbc.170.1362689241654; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 12:47:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: interesting controller - where's the midi harmonica????? (Also Push question) References: From: Christopher Darrow Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-BDCD91CB-63FD-40BA-B348-8BE071488A76 X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10A523) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <410D4E86-B613-4FCA-8C22-6F04F5BB1AAC@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 12:47:17 -0800 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120459 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:47:22 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-BDCD91CB-63FD-40BA-B348-8BE071488A76 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Piano players get all the love. But the whole playing-guitar-and-harmonica-a= t-the-same-time thing is so natural---it really needs a modern update. (Actu= ally piano players could use it too.)=20 AKAI can make a good enough midi sax (EWI) so why has nobody made something w= ith a form factor mimicking the harmonica-with-neck-holder? That would be so= freeing and brilliant.=20 I'm about to buy Push and I'm sure it can be used as a midi controller for a= ny midi software (VDMX primarily in my case) but obviously wan to confirm th= at first. I looked in the tech specs but didn't see specific mention of it. A= lso wondering if they made a librarian/editor app for such things. Anyone kn= ow? I also wish Ableton/Novation would make a foot controller so I didn't have t= o learn to program everything o get visual feedback.... Just 2 or three rows= with pads like those but fewer bigger round ones the diameter of a tennis b= all cut in half but not as tall of a dome---and a few arrows and other basic= controls. Maybe this is the year I finally figure out a system that will w= ork for me... Push with the Gordious LG, soft step, and P.O.K.... Another ye= ar, another expensive controller. Hope this one is as promised an that I can= finally tame the Gordious and soft step. Just thinking our loud... Sorry if that was self indulgent.=20 ---Christopher Darrow =20 On Mar 7, 2013, at 11:58 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Jesus Christ.. Does it work like that out of the box? I think not... ! > Can you imagine the hellish days and days of fiddly little assigning and m= apping and tweaking... Looks so much like a job... not fun at all! >=20 > I bet they sell a lot based on the lights tho... vewwy vewwy pweeedy! > I might get one just to go on the wall! >=20 > Mark >=20 >=20 > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Philip Conway wrote: >> I pre-ordered Push yesterday. It's a sizable lump of money for a control= ler - especially one that I haven't been able to try out first hand - but I c= ouldn't resist the introductory offer. It'll be here in just 12-14 weeks!..= . >>=20 >> I'm quite excited about its potential as an instrument. One appealing th= ing is that, if the early reviews are to be believed, it is very well made a= nd feels heavy and solid. This is no small thing for a musical instrument. = It's much easier to 'lose yourself' and get into 'the zone', as they say, i= f you're playing something that just feels solid and high quality, rather th= an flimsy and plasticy. And, for me, whether or not you can 'lose yourself'= in an instrument is ultimately the marker of whether it's any good or not. >>=20 >> In many ways Push makes much more sense than a traditional keyboard for p= erforming and composing electronic music since it allows any scalar mapping o= f notes and makes that mapping intuitive by providing visual feedback. In t= his way it seems to let the player find relationships between notes and soun= ds that don't rigidly adhere to the c-major scale structure of the piano-sty= le keyboard. >>=20 >> This is how it should be for electronic music, which is not being limited= to the physical mechanisms of objects like the piano. The piano keyboard w= as an elegant invention but it resulted to some degree from the physical req= uirements of whacking strings with little hammers. Electronic music is comp= letely free from such physical connections but, with some expensive exceptio= ns (e.g. the Haken Continuum), instrument or interface design has lagged a l= ong way behind what programmers and sound designers have achieved. >>=20 >> Push looks like a step in the right direction in that respect. It's not r= evolutionary in concept but it appears to have been very well done - at leas= t I hope so! >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Philip. >>=20 >>=20 >> --On 07 March 2013 12:15 +0100 Per Boysen wrote: >>=20 >>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:36 AM, michael noble wrote:= >>>> http://www.weareroli.com/ >>>>=20 >>>> Anyone know anything more about this company or the controller? >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Looks cool, like a "piano submarine" :-) A little thin on information >>> that page, isn't it? =46rom the video it seems as notes are located in >>> linear way, similar to a piano? >>>=20 >>> I must say I'm more intrigued by Ableton's new instrument Push, due to >>> its non linear location of notes. The chromatic scale layout on Push >>> is based on rows differing by a fourths and this creates what to me >>> seems to very playable note locations. In fact, the hand patterns are >>> the same as if tapping a fourths tuned fretted string instrument. >>> Another aspect I like with the Push is that some notes appear at >>> several positions and can be played in unison but with different >>> attack/expression, this too in common with fretted string instruments. >>>=20 >>> I've been using an Akai EWI4000s for some years and think it is the >>> most (musically) expressive MIDI controller instruments I've come >>> across. Since it is based on breath control rather than >>> hitting-something-with-a-hand velocity it a challenge to program good >>> synth patches to play. I think Yamaha was great in the 80s with breath >>> control but since then not much product development seems to have >>> happend im this area. THat's odd, thinking about how a simple hose to >>> blow into increases the expressiveness of any simple keyboard. >>>=20 >>> Greetings from Sweden >>>=20 >>> Per Boysen >>> www.perboysen.com >>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --Apple-Mail-BDCD91CB-63FD-40BA-B348-8BE071488A76 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Piano players get all t= he love. But the whole playing-guitar-and-harmonica-at-the-same-time thing i= s so natural---it really needs a modern update. (Actually piano players coul= d use it too.) 

AKAI can make a good enough mi= di sax (EWI) so why has nobody made something with a form factor mimicking t= he harmonica-with-neck-holder? That would be so freeing and brilliant. =

I'm about to buy Push and I'm sure it can be used as a midi controll= er for any midi software (VDMX primarily in my case) but obviously wan to co= nfirm that first. I looked in the tech specs but didn't see specific mention= of it. Also wondering if they made a librarian/editor app for such things. A= nyone know?

I also wish Ableton/Novation would make= a foot controller so I didn't have to learn to program everything o get vis= ual feedback.... Just 2 or three rows with pads like those but fewer bigger r= ound ones the diameter of a tennis ball cut in half but not as tall of a dom= e---and a few arrows and other basic controls.  Maybe this is the year I= finally figure out a system that will work for me... Push with the Gordious= LG, soft step, and P.O.K.... Another year, another expensive controller. Ho= pe this one is as promised an that I can finally tame the Gordious and soft s= tep.

Just thinking our loud... Sorry if that was se= lf indulgent. 

---Christopher Darrow
 = ;      

On Mar 7, 2013, at 11:58 AM, mark= francombe <mark@markfrancombe.= com> wrote:

Jesus Christ.. Does it work like that out of the box? I think not... !Can you imagine the hellish days and days of fiddly little assigning and m= apping and tweaking... Looks so much like a job... not fun at all!

I bet they sell a lot based on the lights tho... v= ewwy vewwy pweeedy!
I might get one just to go on the wall!

Mark


On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Philip Conway <Philip.Conway@bristol= .ac.uk> wrote:
I pre-ordered Push yesterday.  It's a sizable lump of money for a contr= oller - especially one that I haven't been able to try out first hand - but I= couldn't resist the introductory offer.  It'll be here in just 12-14 w= eeks!...

I'm quite excited about its potential as an instrument.  One appealing t= hing is that, if the early reviews are to be believed, it is very well made a= nd feels heavy and solid.  This is no small thing for a musical instrum= ent.   It's much easier to 'lose yourself' and get into 'the zone', as t= hey say, if you're playing something that just feels solid and high quality,= rather than flimsy and plasticy.  And, for me, whether or not you can '= lose yourself' in an instrument is ultimately the marker of whether it's any= good or not.

In many ways Push makes much more sense than a traditional keyboard for perf= orming and composing electronic music since it allows any scalar mapping of n= otes and makes that mapping intuitive by providing visual feedback.  In= this way it seems to let the player find relationships between notes and so= unds that don't rigidly adhere to the c-major scale structure of the piano-s= tyle keyboard.

This is how it should be for electronic music, which is not being limited to= the physical mechanisms of objects like the piano.  The piano keyboard= was an elegant invention but it resulted to some degree from the physical r= equirements of whacking strings with little hammers.  Electronic music i= s completely free from such physical connections but, with some expensive ex= ceptions (e.g. the Haken Continuum), instrument or interface design has lagg= ed a long way behind what programmers and sound designers have achieved.
=
Push looks like a step in the right direction in that respect.  It's no= t revolutionary in concept but it appears to have been very well done - at l= east I hope so!



Philip.


--On 07 March 2013 12:15 +0100 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:36 AM, michael noble <looplog@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.weareroli= .com/

Anyone know anything more about this company or the controller?


Looks cool, like a "piano submarine" :-)  A little thin on information<= br> that page, isn't it? =46rom the video it seems as notes are located in
linear way, similar to a piano?

I must say I'm more intrigued by Ableton's new instrument Push, due to
its non linear location of notes. The chromatic scale layout on Push
is based on rows differing by a fourths and this creates what to me
seems to very playable note locations. In fact, the hand patterns are
the same as if tapping a fourths tuned fretted string instrument.
Another aspect I like with the Push is that some notes appear at
several positions and can be played in unison but with different
attack/expression, this too in common with fretted string instruments.

I've been using an Akai EWI4000s for some years and think it is the
most (musically) expressive MIDI controller instruments I've come
across. Since it is based on breath control rather than
hitting-something-with-a-hand velocity it a challenge to program good
synth patches to play. I think Yamaha was great in the 80s with breath
control but since then not much product development seems to have
happend im this area. THat's odd, thinking about how a simple hose to
blow into increases the expressiveness of any simple keyboard.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com=
http://www.yo= utube.com/perboysen








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= --Apple-Mail-BDCD91CB-63FD-40BA-B348-8BE071488A76-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 20:51:23 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4A5B1834DC; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:51:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date :to; bh=GyX+L0oSWm8yOTQruaYc2PQRgOUKSBIIOIhVW6Qd3xs=; b=c+fZRarH46NOZJADIWpH9xz3Fid/1PuInjCy+Mlic0Hx+VCV2Ui26ShikNVF38YuEN x7R8HGSCsn+4LRzgqJnkeOyd77Gw/m9n/6W6vW3xCltjeYGgaezPX6OHpq+2quVtFri6 9EJVUKpvcI0B2odvqDhrtaS3QO9XInFP6pvyOTGDLZLCwRBfLKWUFSu1qsJ9kx1UFan1 Y9vVWGVRcRmf90JCm+TEDDdxXP7chRd8y5JJ0lumC/sd+Jz86G+dOqJkfng40SKlr4DA ArWjBnDGSYYB5acaCzCCpey/y59lM+L89glKGLvWxdl8y53lcQT7Su7xat6USSPP7rx7 6IFw== X-Received: by 10.68.242.41 with SMTP id wn9mr16158220pbc.156.1362689482878; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 12:51:22 -0800 (PST) References: <9B2DC050-0AE4-43C7-A574-6905641F0299@johnfloridis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4D3A1F88-FE36-4468-AEB8-A9B2859E92ED Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10B146) From: Philip Clevenger Subject: Re: EDP, circa 2003 Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 12:51:19 -0800 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120460 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:51:23 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4D3A1F88-FE36-4468-AEB8-A9B2859E92ED Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Obtuse ! Obtuse ! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 7, 2013, at 12:40 PM, Toddbert wrote: > I'm not being obtuse. I genuinely did not know that edp=3Dechoplex. Sheesh= . >=20 > Sent from my iPhone >=20 > On Mar 7, 2013, at 12:02 PM, mark francombe wrote= : >=20 >> Todd, you are being obtuse.. seeing as the EDP is the single most often d= iscussed looper on this list!! However, I had a Wasp, and a Gnat... and they= were fab synths.. wish I still had on... but I ust got a Wasp Tshirt... and= I get knowing nods in the street... >>=20 >> M >>=20 >>=20 >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:12 PM, john floridis wro= te: >>> Oh, my bad....Echoplex, as In Echoplex Digital Pro plus. >>> JF >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> Mark Francombe >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.looop.no >> twitter @markfrancombe >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --Apple-Mail-4D3A1F88-FE36-4468-AEB8-A9B2859E92ED Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Obtuse ! Obtuse !

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 7, 2013, at 12:40 PM, Toddbert <toddbert@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm not being obtuse. I genuinely did not know that edp=echoplex. Sheesh.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 7, 2013, at 12:02 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:

Todd, you are being obtuse.. seeing as the EDP is the single most often discussed looper on this list!! However, I had a Wasp, and a Gnat... and they were fab synths.. wish I still had on... but I ust got a Wasp Tshirt... and I get knowing nods in the street...

M


On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:12 PM, john floridis <john@johnfloridis.com> wrote:
Oh, my bad....Echoplex, as In Echoplex Digital Pro plus.
JF




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--Apple-Mail-4D3A1F88-FE36-4468-AEB8-A9B2859E92ED-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 20:55:57 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0CCD01834F3; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:55:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gMDjfWm97TIS005X/ezcP0oPTfvD6wMQL8fN6MGpWAQ=; b=TcVVnjKNwP5vUSBvlFCOssLA70yZcoj7agDt0n6znEmM3z+uw1YFcQO4i9M8ICtueX 4es+yWkaFIR+xmbO0mbiEDYSEBHta/Uvoh+ZYoCB1PnmZMo/d0wIz8a8PuGnTDbZm6wh Wy2l1ftyqk8zW05g+Jt5iwp5LRFCbOQr9pQkAZn3I9ZvItSPESRkYwpg/AyWk+6nowdC jrRdumzJ/FhKBPGUlPOto6JHFaqLtFUdz6rHWYidnO+fPnND23heSTgOJldIJOyAKozd RBPUcrjcVx7gNUO2Okmz0QB/E/r/ANLX5vLNkwQTcKpEsIUW5h8fNmTLYtm1+I38klJM dYAA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.100.163 with SMTP id ez3mr11824951vdb.6.1362689756569; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 12:55:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1362689080.42571.YahooMailNeo@web171701.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 21:55:56 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: interesting controller/Ableton Push From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120461 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:55:57 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Antony Hequet wrote: > It certainly is a great interface for Live, how well is performs as a MIDI > controller remains to be discovered, and probably a matter of taste... I've heard from those who have tried that the pads are just as expressive as on the MPC units (another famous Akai product with touch sensitive pads). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 20:56:34 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 161821834FF; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:56:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=YuUZ1hrvN1Hg26M2aiC+MCaY75LXRMX03iGOHuEYGfw=; b=O9+gnJeAAaxLxF68melFwOx/Qu59gwKXtABKYonXrqJJVGDHHTHZyeiqXjbzXpkIoc 3C1qfgi+1weViNexWhbUCU75S1vv0RnxUMuX4RYs108i2v6UiyThsxrxwS6gjNDKssru K8+Pd6bbpZiRTCu7+ENSg+A9MJUloPf6cXWnI9HQUPWUxZqZV/tXndW84hU7WecIqWIq X6Xyg8CwF0t1cf2kDUVTH9JOb/ALqwV9jxUmcEu+ORFJv0QyI7KUPfFT7AjhW7tiz/83 MlX5Y/g67RYg/QkifyLKAZu57AQxU0pWtEedXs+yKmOoTRzRap3dBq7Y3P3RVqdTXayO E/Ig== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.20.129 with SMTP id n1mr27812168oee.39.1362689793464; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 12:56:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <9B2DC050-0AE4-43C7-A574-6905641F0299@johnfloridis.com> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 15:56:33 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EDP, circa 2003 From: George Turcotte To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb1efe214342104d75bf1ff Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120462 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:56:34 +0000 (UTC) --e89a8fb1efe214342104d75bf1ff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Wow. How bout answering this: is the 'Plex for sale, or are you "just curious?" On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Philip Clevenger wrote: > Obtuse ! Obtuse ! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 7, 2013, at 12:40 PM, Toddbert wrote: > > I'm not being obtuse. I genuinely did not know that edp=echoplex. Sheesh. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 7, 2013, at 12:02 PM, mark francombe > wrote: > > Todd, you are being obtuse.. seeing as the EDP is the single most often > discussed looper on this list!! However, I had a Wasp, and a Gnat... and > they were fab synths.. wish I still had on... but I ust got a Wasp > Tshirt... and I get knowing nods in the street... > > M > > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:12 PM, john floridis wrote: > >> Oh, my bad....Echoplex, as In Echoplex Digital Pro plus. >> JF >> >> > > > -- > *Mark Francombe* > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ > > --e89a8fb1efe214342104d75bf1ff Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wow. How bout answering this: is the 'Plex for sale, or are you "j= ust curious?"

On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at= 3:51 PM, Philip Clevenger <phil.clevenger@gmail.com>= wrote:
Obtuse ! Obtuse !
=
Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 7, 2013= , at 12:40 PM, Toddbert <toddbert@gmail.com> wrote:

=
--e89a8fb1efe214342104d75bf1ff-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 21:30:52 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A3D4C1834D9; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 21:30:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at d2.hostbaby.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Subject: Re: EDP, circa 2003 From: john floridis In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 14:30:46 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <9B2DC050-0AE4-43C7-A574-6905641F0299@johnfloridis.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120463 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 21:30:52 +0000 (UTC) Fair question George :-) I think the idea of it going to someone who's = familiar with it and really knows what it's about is motivating me. I've = always liked it, but I have just not been using it for some time. I need = to check on the software and memory, and yes, I do have the EFT-7. I = have the original box too.=20 Let me get back to you very soon, as in the next 24 hours, but you've = got first dibs. JF= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 23:22:47 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD5DF1834CF; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 23:22:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer :in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version; bh=I7fjua2nJxGsQxmhG6qnsc8AUIzKkjr5SDB8aUnv/rk=; b=H1LhwsaKelZzPx81W3Y9Vwcw6QvmvIRJa6VQcDyZeWRCPNLiW3I4WeD/Cw1P/vebHG UTSzSr0mUOQExOhs4SUPWLDC7ZPCHYGA7k3tjJn65lg6wLwNp1OC/6ux9gTfWpT33lpE WSb7jqucJQmXueD+iMM59O1KD3pK+sHEA2QX81c+qzkDc0GVNWIl8Kkykqile+XiF9Df Fe74ut3Gr2IQ/jxCB8E6scCmFPm4w6pDpuSGpv++Ly1JmViPHU0ZHXDt7sxivoiPZlt1 Wp63LIyQurL0Tvdit7PlpL+qkS24TMvOQ0e96po+504NovlYH73yVPyuSpWSo7OF1T0d FEmQ== X-Received: by 10.50.184.132 with SMTP id eu4mr15652966igc.19.1362698566938; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 15:22:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: interesting controller/Ableton Push References: From: Todd Reynolds Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <065DAE9A-02BD-48B1-95FB-C52A99021EC3@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 18:22:44 -0500 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120464 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 23:22:47 +0000 (UTC) It has a user mode which allows you to tweak to your heart's content.=20 Or call me at 917.576.6166 (or text) On Mar 7, 2013, at 3:40 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Unfortunately I can't go, but it would be great to see a MIDI > implementation chart for Push. I've learned from the Abe forum that > Push is not programable so it would be awesome just to know exactly > what CC#s are sent out from the different knobs and ribbon. Knowing > that one could estimate how useful Push would be for generic > electronics control. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >=20 >=20 > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Amy Lee wrote: >> :) >>=20 >> I know members of this list span the globe, but for those who are in the S= an >> Francisco area I am trying to book a special presentation of Push for the= >> April gathering of the San Francisco Electronic Music Meetup >> (http://meetup.com/sf-emm). I'll know more in a couple of days (hopefully= ). >>=20 >> If there are certain things people want a demo of, I can put that request= to >> the presenter. :) >>=20 >> Amy >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >>>=20 >>> @mark, >>>=20 >>> If you connect a USB cable to a laptop running Live 9.x it does indeed >>> "work like that". It actually lets you control the Live application >>> from the pad, very much like an extension of the well known Roland TR >>> step sequencing concept. >>>=20 >>> But I'm more interested in simply playing MIDI notes from it, just >>> like any MIDI piano keyboard - but with a smarter chromatic keyboard >>> layout. In order to do that you only need to open a virtual instrument >>> in whatever laptop application picking up at the other end of the USB >>> cable. Practically no tweaking at all. >>>=20 >>> If you want to use it to control a custom looping rig you may very >>> well there will of course be a lot of mapping and tweaking. Maybe you >>> were actually talking only about this third alternative? >>>=20 >>> But for using it as an instrument that plays >>>=20 >>> Greetings from Sweden >>>=20 >>> Per Boysen >>> www.perboysen.com >>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:58 PM, mark francombe >>> wrote: >>>> Jesus Christ.. Does it work like that out of the box? I think not... ! >>>> Can you imagine the hellish days and days of fiddly little assigning an= d >>>> mapping and tweaking... Looks so much like a job... not fun at all! >>>>=20 >>>> I bet they sell a lot based on the lights tho... vewwy vewwy pweeedy! >>>> I might get one just to go on the wall! >>>>=20 >>>> Mark >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Philip Conway >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> I pre-ordered Push yesterday. It's a sizable lump of money for a >>>>> controller - especially one that I haven't been able to try out first >>>>> hand - >>>>> but I couldn't resist the introductory offer. It'll be here in just >>>>> 12-14 >>>>> weeks!... >>>>>=20 >>>>> I'm quite excited about its potential as an instrument. One appealing= >>>>> thing is that, if the early reviews are to be believed, it is very wel= l >>>>> made >>>>> and feels heavy and solid. This is no small thing for a musical >>>>> instrument. >>>>> It's much easier to 'lose yourself' and get into 'the zone', as they >>>>> say, if >>>>> you're playing something that just feels solid and high quality, rathe= r >>>>> than >>>>> flimsy and plasticy. And, for me, whether or not you can 'lose >>>>> yourself' in >>>>> an instrument is ultimately the marker of whether it's any good or not= . >>>>>=20 >>>>> In many ways Push makes much more sense than a traditional keyboard fo= r >>>>> performing and composing electronic music since it allows any scalar >>>>> mapping >>>>> of notes and makes that mapping intuitive by providing visual feedback= . >>>>> In >>>>> this way it seems to let the player find relationships between notes >>>>> and >>>>> sounds that don't rigidly adhere to the c-major scale structure of the= >>>>> piano-style keyboard. >>>>>=20 >>>>> This is how it should be for electronic music, which is not being >>>>> limited >>>>> to the physical mechanisms of objects like the piano. The piano >>>>> keyboard >>>>> was an elegant invention but it resulted to some degree from the >>>>> physical >>>>> requirements of whacking strings with little hammers. Electronic musi= c >>>>> is >>>>> completely free from such physical connections but, with some expensiv= e >>>>> exceptions (e.g. the Haken Continuum), instrument or interface design >>>>> has >>>>> lagged a long way behind what programmers and sound designers have >>>>> achieved. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Push looks like a step in the right direction in that respect. It's >>>>> not >>>>> revolutionary in concept but it appears to have been very well done - >>>>> at >>>>> least I hope so! >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Philip. >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> --On 07 March 2013 12:15 +0100 Per Boysen wrote:= >>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:36 AM, michael noble >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> http://www.weareroli.com/ >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Anyone know anything more about this company or the controller? >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Looks cool, like a "piano submarine" :-) A little thin on informatio= n >>>>>> that page, isn't it? =46rom the video it seems as notes are located i= n >>>>>> linear way, similar to a piano? >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> I must say I'm more intrigued by Ableton's new instrument Push, due t= o >>>>>> its non linear location of notes. The chromatic scale layout on Push >>>>>> is based on rows differing by a fourths and this creates what to me >>>>>> seems to very playable note locations. In fact, the hand patterns are= >>>>>> the same as if tapping a fourths tuned fretted string instrument. >>>>>> Another aspect I like with the Push is that some notes appear at >>>>>> several positions and can be played in unison but with different >>>>>> attack/expression, this too in common with fretted string instruments= . >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> I've been using an Akai EWI4000s for some years and think it is the >>>>>> most (musically) expressive MIDI controller instruments I've come >>>>>> across. Since it is based on breath control rather than >>>>>> hitting-something-with-a-hand velocity it a challenge to program good= >>>>>> synth patches to play. I think Yamaha was great in the 80s with breat= h >>>>>> control but since then not much product development seems to have >>>>>> happend im this area. THat's odd, thinking about how a simple hose to= >>>>>> blow into increases the expressiveness of any simple keyboard. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Greetings from Sweden >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Per Boysen >>>>>> www.perboysen.com >>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >>>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> -- >>>> Mark Francombe >>>> www.markfrancombe.com >>>> www.ordoabkhao.com >>>> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >>>> http://www.looop.no >>>> twitter @markfrancombe >>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 23:23:46 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44A641834D0; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 23:23:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer :in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version; bh=KnYdonUz9v1UZC3ZdS0knSVBuvmMn8zhzZZKquqknTw=; b=q210e+Qcfm6NJ89eaFGYun4JJ1UWo7dZXTyJTOl0JOOLujFSok9o0tLQEx90v7Neh8 sxwGQ9PzbL/A0M9rqO1MPU2RKC08YJ5u2qDgFGhGnpWAsz9uvs1ihMGow72VlkgX+NRS VMgxDojDd45blrI5RxkfG/u63GfRUS1p3DuuP9AUwyUknx2M25Iv2KWZY1X06rNZWMi0 E8OonCT8KewrSSwMYxIiheRWFfaAyA5KmsTclW1Sf9Wmfra1DXivBUv8dpGEq9XNAH1r 18Vm7moyZOcWLAUElGJvGMPNFdbxqDZhm9TR/HnCJsZnggh70QHIWt/rIIjWN5Jm0C2g OR8g== X-Received: by 10.50.194.129 with SMTP id hw1mr15509021igc.8.1362698625564; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 15:23:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: interesting controller/Ableton Push References: <1362689080.42571.YahooMailNeo@web171701.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> From: Todd Reynolds Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <736F484F-4EFB-4EB6-9C46-A5E7F5ECFB91@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 18:23:45 -0500 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120465 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 23:23:46 +0000 (UTC) I can confirm that Per.=20 Or call me at 917.576.6166 (or text) On Mar 7, 2013, at 3:55 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Antony Hequet wro= te: >> It certainly is a great interface for Live, how well is performs as a MID= I >> controller remains to be discovered, and probably a matter of taste... >=20 > I've heard from those who have tried that the pads are just as > expressive as on the MPC units (another famous Akai product with touch > sensitive pads). >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 23:31:46 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 79F7D1834CE; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 23:31:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <51392362.4060701@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 15:31:46 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philip Clevenger , "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Re: EDP, circa 2003 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040807090205060807060001" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120466 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 23:31:46 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040807090205060807060001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Abstruse! Abstruce! Philip Clevenger wrote: > Obtuse ! Obtuse ! > > Toddbert > wrote: > >> I'm not being obtuse. I genuinely did not know that edp=echoplex. Sheesh. >> >> >> >> mark francombe > > wrote: >> >>> Todd, you are being obtuse.. seeing as the EDP is the single most >>> often discussed looper on this list!! However, I had a Wasp, and a >>> Gnat... and they were fab synths.. wish I still had on... but I ust >>> got a Wasp Tshirt... and I get knowing nods in the street... >>> >>> >>> >>> john floridis >> > wrote: >> Oh, my bad....Echoplex, as In Echoplex Digital Pro plus. --------------040807090205060807060001 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Abstruse!   Abstruce!


 Philip Clevenger wrote:
Obtuse ! Obtuse !

 Toddbert <toddbert@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm not being obtuse. I genuinely did not know that edp=echoplex. Sheesh.



mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:

Todd, you are being obtuse.. seeing as the EDP is the single most often discussed looper on this list!! However, I had a Wasp, and a Gnat... and they were fab synths.. wish I still had on... but I ust got a Wasp Tshirt... and I get knowing nods in the street...



 john floridis <john@johnfloridis.com> wrote:
Oh, my bad....Echoplex, as In Echoplex Digital Pro plus.

--------------040807090205060807060001-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 7 23:39:52 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8404D1834CE; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 23:39:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=tzZMEW51Qj60x2PyGMrzrrPTsUTJFBtWGJatbr+1MIs=; b=LKyilIHAYnSLOB8Ve8dYitn+z/eGP98Jg0NqAOm+zDaWMddgU0/NkrkwwuehkWa2fd M3nBjleQ3u12MNP0qpMNhvbhp+U/AbdXNvC4BsOwQecDwbRKt3QBqFucSxdhYi/jrCNi BbpuQvg9mHVYsD+DxbcHb/+PGggMvR3nwKzL+UsVxo/GBoYspWGIVZRq31Xdq/i0O7uk lhd/qYQTP3EeTYGFaIn8Q+erH8Ort48ZXeuxZMKvNpGH9t/QIu6XG8JcLwnw888Cw2kU xQj3//9Xmhyuz9J9WQqgVZSpRIt677s+cVVlEYOV4WlfwkU4+MfMNTnHZrYI3pOC9rfB PLAQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.10.202 with SMTP id k10mr95507wjb.53.1362699590492; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 15:39:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <065DAE9A-02BD-48B1-95FB-C52A99021EC3@gmail.com> References: <065DAE9A-02BD-48B1-95FB-C52A99021EC3@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 15:39:50 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: interesting controller/Ableton Push From: Richard Sales To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b5d9b8d06fa7104d75e39e3 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnXFEUCAZJuEE31uD5okYwBP1Gno/1YZPxd52iQ5iZs5Rz6Dh86O2CMPRQDVRlt0MvVeoLx Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120467 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 23:39:52 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b5d9b8d06fa7104d75e39e3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Todd You're using it with Ableton or other software? And would you say the pads are more sensitive than Maschine? I have some problems with Maschine and the pads. They're not real responsive. I've adjusted sensitivity etc and still have to bang a good bit to get a note and so can't access lower velocities. Fine for blitz music but not so hot for the softer stuff. I've heard this is different when using Maschine in MIDI mode. Also, the newest Maschine OS makes it unusable for triggering MIDI. Had to go back to an old OS. I would use it with Pro Tools HDX triggering Slate SSD4. But if I got Ableton with it, that would be fun. I've been meaning to learn it. Still, I'd ALSO want to use it as a drum pad controller for Slate to Pro Tools to Vienna Ensemble Pro5. I think. Maybe Ableton would CHANGE ME! Eee yi yi! Richard www.glasswing.com On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Todd Reynolds wrote: > It has a user mode which allows you to tweak to your heart's content. > > Or call me at 917.576.6166 (or text) > > On Mar 7, 2013, at 3:40 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > > > Unfortunately I can't go, but it would be great to see a MIDI > > implementation chart for Push. I've learned from the Abe forum that > > Push is not programable so it would be awesome just to know exactly > > what CC#s are sent out from the different knobs and ribbon. Knowing > > that one could estimate how useful Push would be for generic > > electronics control. > > > > Greetings from Sweden > > > > Per Boysen > > www.perboysen.com > > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Amy Lee wrote: > >> :) > >> > >> I know members of this list span the globe, but for those who are in > the San > >> Francisco area I am trying to book a special presentation of Push for > the > >> April gathering of the San Francisco Electronic Music Meetup > >> (http://meetup.com/sf-emm). I'll know more in a couple of days > (hopefully). > >> > >> If there are certain things people want a demo of, I can put that > request to > >> the presenter. :) > >> > >> Amy > >> > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Per Boysen > wrote: > >>> > >>> @mark, > >>> > >>> If you connect a USB cable to a laptop running Live 9.x it does indeed > >>> "work like that". It actually lets you control the Live application > >>> from the pad, very much like an extension of the well known Roland TR > >>> step sequencing concept. > >>> > >>> But I'm more interested in simply playing MIDI notes from it, just > >>> like any MIDI piano keyboard - but with a smarter chromatic keyboard > >>> layout. In order to do that you only need to open a virtual instrument > >>> in whatever laptop application picking up at the other end of the USB > >>> cable. Practically no tweaking at all. > >>> > >>> If you want to use it to control a custom looping rig you may very > >>> well there will of course be a lot of mapping and tweaking. Maybe you > >>> were actually talking only about this third alternative? > >>> > >>> But for using it as an instrument that plays > >>> > >>> Greetings from Sweden > >>> > >>> Per Boysen > >>> www.perboysen.com > >>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:58 PM, mark francombe > > >>> wrote: > >>>> Jesus Christ.. Does it work like that out of the box? I think not... ! > >>>> Can you imagine the hellish days and days of fiddly little assigning > and > >>>> mapping and tweaking... Looks so much like a job... not fun at all! > >>>> > >>>> I bet they sell a lot based on the lights tho... vewwy vewwy pweeedy! > >>>> I might get one just to go on the wall! > >>>> > >>>> Mark > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Philip Conway > >>>> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> I pre-ordered Push yesterday. It's a sizable lump of money for a > >>>>> controller - especially one that I haven't been able to try out first > >>>>> hand - > >>>>> but I couldn't resist the introductory offer. It'll be here in just > >>>>> 12-14 > >>>>> weeks!... > >>>>> > >>>>> I'm quite excited about its potential as an instrument. One > appealing > >>>>> thing is that, if the early reviews are to be believed, it is very > well > >>>>> made > >>>>> and feels heavy and solid. This is no small thing for a musical > >>>>> instrument. > >>>>> It's much easier to 'lose yourself' and get into 'the zone', as they > >>>>> say, if > >>>>> you're playing something that just feels solid and high quality, > rather > >>>>> than > >>>>> flimsy and plasticy. And, for me, whether or not you can 'lose > >>>>> yourself' in > >>>>> an instrument is ultimately the marker of whether it's any good or > not. > >>>>> > >>>>> In many ways Push makes much more sense than a traditional keyboard > for > >>>>> performing and composing electronic music since it allows any scalar > >>>>> mapping > >>>>> of notes and makes that mapping intuitive by providing visual > feedback. > >>>>> In > >>>>> this way it seems to let the player find relationships between notes > >>>>> and > >>>>> sounds that don't rigidly adhere to the c-major scale structure of > the > >>>>> piano-style keyboard. > >>>>> > >>>>> This is how it should be for electronic music, which is not being > >>>>> limited > >>>>> to the physical mechanisms of objects like the piano. The piano > >>>>> keyboard > >>>>> was an elegant invention but it resulted to some degree from the > >>>>> physical > >>>>> requirements of whacking strings with little hammers. Electronic > music > >>>>> is > >>>>> completely free from such physical connections but, with some > expensive > >>>>> exceptions (e.g. the Haken Continuum), instrument or interface design > >>>>> has > >>>>> lagged a long way behind what programmers and sound designers have > >>>>> achieved. > >>>>> > >>>>> Push looks like a step in the right direction in that respect. It's > >>>>> not > >>>>> revolutionary in concept but it appears to have been very well done - > >>>>> at > >>>>> least I hope so! > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Philip. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> --On 07 March 2013 12:15 +0100 Per Boysen > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:36 AM, michael noble > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> http://www.weareroli.com/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Anyone know anything more about this company or the controller? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Looks cool, like a "piano submarine" :-) A little thin on > information > >>>>>> that page, isn't it? From the video it seems as notes are located in > >>>>>> linear way, similar to a piano? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I must say I'm more intrigued by Ableton's new instrument Push, due > to > >>>>>> its non linear location of notes. The chromatic scale layout on Push > >>>>>> is based on rows differing by a fourths and this creates what to me > >>>>>> seems to very playable note locations. In fact, the hand patterns > are > >>>>>> the same as if tapping a fourths tuned fretted string instrument. > >>>>>> Another aspect I like with the Push is that some notes appear at > >>>>>> several positions and can be played in unison but with different > >>>>>> attack/expression, this too in common with fretted string > instruments. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I've been using an Akai EWI4000s for some years and think it is the > >>>>>> most (musically) expressive MIDI controller instruments I've come > >>>>>> across. Since it is based on breath control rather than > >>>>>> hitting-something-with-a-hand velocity it a challenge to program > good > >>>>>> synth patches to play. I think Yamaha was great in the 80s with > breath > >>>>>> control but since then not much product development seems to have > >>>>>> happend im this area. THat's odd, thinking about how a simple hose > to > >>>>>> blow into increases the expressiveness of any simple keyboard. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Greetings from Sweden > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Per Boysen > >>>>>> www.perboysen.com > >>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Mark Francombe > >>>> www.markfrancombe.com > >>>> www.ordoabkhao.com > >>>> http://vimeo.com/user825094 > >>>> http://www.looop.no > >>>> twitter @markfrancombe > >>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ > >>> > >> > > > > -- richard sales www.glasswing.com --047d7b5d9b8d06fa7104d75e39e3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Todd

You're using it with Ableton or other softwa= re?=A0
And would you say the pads are more sensitive than Maschine?
I have some problems with Maschine and the pads. =A0They're not = real responsive. =A0I've adjusted sensitivity etc and still have to ban= g a good bit to get a note and so can't access lower velocities. =A0Fin= e for blitz music but not so hot for the softer stuff.

I've heard this is different when using Maschine in= MIDI mode.

Also, the newest Maschine OS makes it = unusable for triggering MIDI. =A0Had to go back to an old OS.
I would use it with Pro Tools HDX triggering Slate SSD4. =A0But = if I got Ableton with it, that would be fun. =A0I've been meaning to le= arn it. =A0Still, I'd ALSO want to use it as a drum pad controller for = Slate to Pro Tools to Vienna Ensemble Pro5.

I think. =A0

Maybe Ableton wou= ld CHANGE ME! =A0Eee yi yi!

Richard

On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Todd Reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com>= wrote:
It has a user mode which allows you to tweak to your heart's content.
Or call me at 917.576.6= 166 (or text)

On Mar 7, 2013, at 3:40 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> Unfortunately I can't go, but it would be great to see a MIDI
> implementation chart for Push. I've learned from the Abe forum tha= t
> Push is not programable so it would be awesome just to know exactly > what CC#s are sent out from the different knobs and ribbon. Knowing > that one could estimate how useful Push would be for generic
> electronics control.
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.perboysen.c= om
> http://= www.youtube.com/perboysen
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Amy Lee <amy@jumpingrobot.com> wrote:
>> <plug> :)
>>
>> I know members of this list span the globe, but for those who are = in the San
>> Francisco area I am trying to book a special presentation of Push = for the
>> April gathering of the San Francisco Electronic Music Meetup
>> (http://mee= tup.com/sf-emm). I'll know more in a couple of days (hopefully). >>
>> If there are certain things people want a demo of, I can put that = request to
>> the presenter. :)
>>
>> Amy
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> @mark,
>>>
>>> If you connect a USB cable to a laptop running Live 9.x it doe= s indeed
>>> "work like that". It actually lets you control the L= ive application
>>> from the pad, very much like an extension of the well known Ro= land TR
>>> step sequencing concept.
>>>
>>> But I'm more interested in simply playing MIDI notes from = it, just
>>> like any MIDI piano keyboard - but with a smarter chromatic ke= yboard
>>> layout. In order to do that you only need to open a virtual in= strument
>>> in whatever laptop application picking up at the other end of = the USB
>>> cable. Practically no tweaking at all.
>>>
>>> If you want to use it to control a custom looping rig you may = very
>>> well there will of course be a lot of mapping and tweaking. Ma= ybe you
>>> were actually talking only about this third alternative?
>>>
>>> But for using it as an instrument that plays
>>>
>>> Greetings from Sweden
>>>
>>> Per Boysen
>>> www.per= boysen.com
>>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:58 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Jesus Christ.. Does it work like that out of the box? I th= ink not... !
>>>> Can you imagine the hellish days and days of fiddly little= assigning and
>>>> mapping and tweaking... Looks so much like a job... not fu= n at all!
>>>>
>>>> I bet they sell a lot based on the lights tho... vewwy vew= wy pweeedy!
>>>> I might get one just to go on the wall!
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Philip Conway
>>>> <Philip.= Conway@bristol.ac.uk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I pre-ordered Push yesterday. =A0It's a sizable lu= mp of money for a
>>>>> controller - especially one that I haven't been ab= le to try out first
>>>>> hand -
>>>>> but I couldn't resist the introductory offer. =A0I= t'll be here in just
>>>>> 12-14
>>>>> weeks!...
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm quite excited about its potential as an instru= ment. =A0One appealing
>>>>> thing is that, if the early reviews are to be believed= , it is very well
>>>>> made
>>>>> and feels heavy and solid. =A0This is no small thing f= or a musical
>>>>> instrument.
>>>>> It's much easier to 'lose yourself' and ge= t into 'the zone', as they
>>>>> say, if
>>>>> you're playing something that just feels solid and= high quality, rather
>>>>> than
>>>>> flimsy and plasticy. =A0And, for me, whether or not yo= u can 'lose
>>>>> yourself' in
>>>>> an instrument is ultimately the marker of whether it&#= 39;s any good or not.
>>>>>
>>>>> In many ways Push makes much more sense than a traditi= onal keyboard for
>>>>> performing and composing electronic music since it all= ows any scalar
>>>>> mapping
>>>>> of notes and makes that mapping intuitive by providing= visual feedback.
>>>>> In
>>>>> this way it seems to let the player find relationships= between notes
>>>>> and
>>>>> sounds that don't rigidly adhere to the c-major sc= ale structure of the
>>>>> piano-style keyboard.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is how it should be for electronic music, which i= s not being
>>>>> limited
>>>>> to the physical mechanisms of objects like the piano. = =A0The piano
>>>>> keyboard
>>>>> was an elegant invention but it resulted to some degre= e from the
>>>>> physical
>>>>> requirements of whacking strings with little hammers. = =A0Electronic music
>>>>> is
>>>>> completely free from such physical connections but, wi= th some expensive
>>>>> exceptions (e.g. the Haken Continuum), instrument or i= nterface design
>>>>> has
>>>>> lagged a long way behind what programmers and sound de= signers have
>>>>> achieved.
>>>>>
>>>>> Push looks like a step in the right direction in that = respect. =A0It's
>>>>> not
>>>>> revolutionary in concept but it appears to have been v= ery well done -
>>>>> at
>>>>> least I hope so!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Philip.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --On 07 March 2013 12:15 +0100 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:36 AM, michael noble <= looplog@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.weareroli.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyone know anything more about this company o= r the controller?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks cool, like a "piano submarine" :-)= =A0A little thin on information
>>>>>> that page, isn't it? From the video it seems a= s notes are located in
>>>>>> linear way, similar to a piano?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I must say I'm more intrigued by Ableton's= new instrument Push, due to
>>>>>> its non linear location of notes. The chromatic sc= ale layout on Push
>>>>>> is based on rows differing by a fourths and this c= reates what to me
>>>>>> seems to very playable note locations. In fact, th= e hand patterns are
>>>>>> the same as if tapping a fourths tuned fretted str= ing instrument.
>>>>>> Another aspect I like with the Push is that some n= otes appear at
>>>>>> several positions and can be played in unison but = with different
>>>>>> attack/expression, this too in common with fretted= string instruments.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been using an Akai EWI4000s for some year= s and think it is the
>>>>>> most (musically) expressive MIDI controller instru= ments I've come
>>>>>> across. Since it is based on breath control rather= than
>>>>>> hitting-something-with-a-hand velocity it a challe= nge to program good
>>>>>> synth patches to play. I think Yamaha was great in= the 80s with breath
>>>>>> control but since then not much product developmen= t seems to have
>>>>>> happend im this area. THat's odd, thinking abo= ut how a simple hose to
>>>>>> blow into increases the expressiveness of any simp= le keyboard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greetings from Sweden
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Per Boysen
>>>>>> www.perboysen.com
>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Mark Francombe
>>>> www.markfrancombe.com
>>>> ww= w.ordoabkhao.com
>>>> = http://vimeo.com/user825094
>>>> http://w= ww.looop.no
>>>> twitter @markfrancombe
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
>>>
>>
>




-- richard sales
www.glasswing.com


--047d7b5d9b8d06fa7104d75e39e3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 8 02:03:16 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA9311834D0; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 02:03:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=boCo+nf2Up4p+hkhEmIwiTnmftdBjQQxYdf+Z7VzqQo=; b=cGASk6J7Rs+E9JfY9yrpM/hiUvPp1ZBPQyDDtK5/vBOYm9kYEUy+wdP0Dhq/Q0IOHb HxMeHGy6+h08s4nhmgh12czu8+6uoAGb8/JwwEQXDCo9trHThqOepwxyCGK5Ar80OqQH blyqagzt3KGxvsAQa+/Yd4uU6CuGoYEEXAREO5ntT+XQzodpjTAhA/52kgCC0IhchKRe KDg4yp9yEBtOrNndFFhb/+MIPabx0Lubqy9wzxgoeRhHWe5xAiN9cbbcS3cW7eV6D9vY nd56etwg+JtM/pSbb8i6uBF6Ljejapq4w3Ew6DmOfNtN5lYSWu7AaJTTowuglcdf4R7w 9rxw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.100.169 with SMTP id ez9mr37772996wib.3.1362708195369; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 18:03:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 11:03:15 +0900 Message-ID: Subject: Re: interesting controller From: michael noble To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9cc9c56eaea5e04d760399c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120468 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 02:03:16 +0000 (UTC) --14dae9cc9c56eaea5e04d760399c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > I must say I'm more intrigued by Ableton's new instrument Push Push does look great, I can't deny that. I've been using a pair of Novation launchpads as a 128 button grid controller with custom software in Puredata as my main interface for a while now. From a programming perspective, the button grid interface is just so flexible - you can build traditional step sequencers, pseudo faders, banks of buttons, or a straight up note based midi controller. With velocity sensitivity and all the additional bells and whistles, Push looks to be an exciting controller. --14dae9cc9c56eaea5e04d760399c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com><= /span> wrote:
I must say I'm more intrigued by Ableton= 's new instrument Push

Push does look great, I ca= n't deny that. I've been using a pair of Novation=A0launchpads=A0as= a 128 button grid controller with custom software in Puredata as my main i= nterface for a while now. From a programming perspective, the button grid i= nterface is just so flexible - you can build traditional step sequencers, p= seudo faders, banks of buttons, or a straight up note based midi controller= . With velocity sensitivity and all the additional bells and whistles, Push= looks to be an exciting controller.


<= /div> --14dae9cc9c56eaea5e04d760399c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 8 03:26:08 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89F6E1834CC; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 03:26:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7Kik8Y9rl4jxDr9NeiJTbK0zQRrr7yl0t0ICSKJ+YBY=; b=l9L845Zwm6ocG1AG7YFa8OkFLCyjgDWKyR7YMPSkxaGK5thfUsmqSOkEKdq0fj5ecU XsFhHJjLAmiwBdutTMqS+LyXZwu8+SfBFQULRGwzmd86I6+s6IVMqhyvtBa+wtpWRMtg NGPffzb5eIRrsz+vWlU6Hy7VkG3kc5o2LzsSjRXlgPqd8cFe73vv0/Iaz0uZOSf1Mf9f et4cNsYxmEfNyhugI68ojorVP71P7RLAjeuT9QlUz9yNJDWzRUTUH5rmE4y9R0NqyNsg GC4VkTQH/R4aBVaWRz8jQGkwh73Y36diBSCAWEXa/4xZp6m7BqkMdhmzAapTl4iUxnAA rjfA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.135.8 with SMTP id po8mr505229igb.41.1362713167963; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 19:26:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <51392362.4060701@cruzio.com> References: <51392362.4060701@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 19:26:07 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: EDP, circa 2003 From: Todd Elliott To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f83ab134eae8a04d76162bf Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120469 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 03:26:08 +0000 (UTC) --e89a8f83ab134eae8a04d76162bf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Spruce Goose! Spruce Goose! On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Abstruse! Abstruce! > > > Philip Clevenger wrote: > > Obtuse ! Obtuse ! > > Toddbert wrote: > > I'm not being obtuse. I genuinely did not know that edp=echoplex. > Sheesh. > > > > mark francombe wrote: > > Todd, you are being obtuse.. seeing as the EDP is the single most often > discussed looper on this list!! However, I had a Wasp, and a Gnat... and > they were fab synths.. wish I still had on... but I ust got a Wasp > Tshirt... and I get knowing nods in the street... > > > > john floridis wrote: > > Oh, my bad....Echoplex, as In Echoplex Digital Pro plus. > > > -- http://toaster.bandcamp.com --e89a8f83ab134eae8a04d76162bf Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Spruce Goose! Spruce Goose!

On Thu, Mar 7= , 2013 at 3:31 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote= :
=20 =20 =20
Abstruse!=A0=A0 Abstruce!


=A0Philip Clevenger wrote:
Obtuse ! Obtuse !

=A0Toddbert <toddbert@gmail.com> wrote:

=20
I'm not being obtuse. I genuinely did not know that edp=3Dechoplex. Sheesh.



mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:

Todd, you are being obtuse.. seeing as the EDP is the single most often discussed looper on this list!! However, I had a Wasp, and a Gnat... and they were fab synths.. wish I still had on... but I ust got a Wasp Tshirt... and I get knowing nods in the street...



=A0john floridis <john@john= floridis.com> wrote:
Oh, my bad....Echoplex, as In Echoplex Digital Pro plus.




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http://toaster.bandcamp.com --e89a8f83ab134eae8a04d76162bf-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 8 05:44:18 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 615EA1834CE; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 05:44:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=FEhCOGrsk2YmRxIaV4112YIx7p8sswNjfGMen0GSnqU=; b=MDMCFHOQVzxr0cap1PrkgPX8YSJbtj1FDxNvz16GYryjHS0NWRB/oJhB8X/iYVGSH5 1DAVETvJYv34bRpUAeG3+8wVsMv+5Ujbdhtihyh4HDYW7Fr/2CwwueEQ0PXryjioNbHl BWpVNjJJqjtUUj0UXB1PQEEBWCdxda0phgSoNhaY5uRxKhd8T8tEtGbJzo9MRhL31xEL HcGRj3a8ODPOgPYD1UajC2LdCjyYOTy9BCPh0nfx3uvJlpptk9XM8v4AgiUyzfU9X58f zxessho3WlgIZvzB50bBYGi6dYFPHsbhEiPvBhawaM/FsJVIK3xSqH5o/mdamrcwLJpK 3pgQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.14.4.69 with SMTP id 45mr1794616eei.0.1362721457186; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 21:44:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 00:44:17 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Recording_Spam: RPM Challenge 2013 releases From: Jim Goodin To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b66f1c762556804d76350fd Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120470 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 05:44:18 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b66f1c762556804d76350fd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey everyone. I participated in this year's recent RPM Challenge event as some others in the LD community possibly did, and produced two CD's which are also published as Bandcamp freely downloadable distributions. Both feature quite a bit of 'live to recording' looping, one being my first solo violin project which I used electric violins, Jeff's Mobius, analog/iPad based efx and some digital manipulation of the audio files in post. One of the experiments that came in the solo record was one night I had the idea to use two violins in different tunings (L_H FCFC/GDGD if memory serves me), pluck them mostly open, occasionally bowing with lots of delay. This turned out to be great fun and occupies the opening and closing pieces on the record. *Jim Goodin - Hack* http://jimgoodin.bandcamp.com/album/hack The other record, a Ninjam trio that friend/fellow LD'er *Jeff Duke*, another florida musician/friend *Ray Istorico *and myself put together in February initially to explore doing a release for RPM and in the process we launched a new net 'band' we have dubbed as kOss pHactor which will continue. Jeff, Ray and I have worked together as some know here, in many NinJam collabs. kOss pHactor's makeup is Jeff Duke (electric guitars/electronics), Ray Istorico (electronic drums and WaveDrum), Jim Goodin (electric violin/electronics) *kOss pHactor - kOss pHactor* http://kossphactor.bandcamp.com/album/koss-phactor I hope several others did participate this year in the Challenge. If you don't know what this is and are curious here's the URL http://www.rpmchallenge.com. I was first introduced it by another fellow LDer Tim Nelson in 2007. Thanks Tim! Thanks for listening. Jim --=20 --=20 *jimgoodin.com* - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive minimalism' *The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music* - 'Organically inspired New Music' *From Brooklyn To Glindran *, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from this CD will benefit *JDRF International * *Tips Across the Waters *, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware. --047d7b66f1c762556804d76350fd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey everyone. =A0I participated in this year's recent RPM Challenge eve= nt as some others in the LD community possibly did, and produced two CD'= ;s which are also published as Bandcamp freely downloadable distributions. = =A0Both feature quite a bit of 'live to recording' looping, one bei= ng my first solo violin project which I used electric violins, Jeff's M= obius, analog/iPad based efx and some digital manipulation of the audio fil= es in post.

One of the experiments that came in the solo record was one = night I had the idea to use two violins in different tunings (L_H FCFC/GDGD= if memory serves me), pluck them mostly open, occasionally bowing with lot= s of delay. =A0This turned out to be great fun and occupies the opening and= closing pieces on the record.

=

The other record, a Ninjam trio that friend/fellow LD&#= 39;er Jeff Duke, another florida musician/friend Ray Istorico and myself put together in February initially to explore doing a release f= or RPM and in the process we launched a new net 'band' we have dubb= ed as kOss pHactor which will continue. =A0Jeff, Ray and I have worked toge= ther as some know here, in many NinJam collabs.

kOss pHactor's makeup is Jeff Duke (electric guitar= s/electronics), Ray Istorico (electronic drums and WaveDrum), Jim Goodin (e= lectric violin/electronics)


I hope several others did participate this year in the = Challenge. =A0If you don't know what this is and are curious here's= the URL=A0http://www.rpmchallenge.= com. =A0I was first introduced it by another fellow LDer Tim Nelson in = 2007. =A0Thanks Tim!

Thanks for listening.

Jim

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jimgoodin.com - 'Acoustic gu= itar renaissance, color blue, repetitive minimalism'
=A0
The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music=A0- 'Org= anically inspired New Music'
=A0
From Brooklyn To Gl= indran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter = Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF International

Tips Across the Waters, a= new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.
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I've learned from the Abe forum that > > Push is not programable so it would be awesome just to know exactly > > what CC#s are sent out from the different knobs and ribbon. Knowing > > that one could estimate how useful Push would be for generic > > electronics control. > > > > Greetings from Sweden > > > > Per Boysen > > www.perboysen.com > > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Amy Lee wrote: > >> :) > >> > >> I know members of this list span the globe, but for those who are in the San > >> Francisco area I am trying to book a special presentation of Push for the > >> April gathering of the San Francisco Electronic Music Meetup > >> (http://meetup.com/sf-emm). I'll know more in a couple of days (hopefully). > >> > >> If there are certain things people want a demo of, I can put that request to > >> the presenter. :) > >> > >> Amy > >> > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > >>> > >>> @mark, > >>> > >>> If you connect a USB cable to a laptop running Live 9.x it does indeed > >>> "work like that". It actually lets you control the Live application > >>> from the pad, very much like an extension of the well known Roland TR > >>> step sequencing concept. > >>> > >>> But I'm more interested in simply playing MIDI notes from it, just > >>> like any MIDI piano keyboard - but with a smarter chromatic keyboard > >>> layout. In order to do that you only need to open a virtual instrument > >>> in whatever laptop application picking up at the other end of the USB > >>> cable. Practically no tweaking at all. > >>> > >>> If you want to use it to control a custom looping rig you may very > >>> well there will of course be a lot of mapping and tweaking. Maybe you > >>> were actually talking only about this third alternative? > >>> > >>> But for using it as an instrument that plays > >>> > >>> Greetings from Sweden > >>> > >>> Per Boysen > >>> www.perboysen.com > >>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:58 PM, mark francombe > >>> wrote: > >>>> Jesus Christ.. Does it work like that out of the box? I think not... ! > >>>> Can you imagine the hellish days and days of fiddly little assigning and > >>>> mapping and tweaking... Looks so much like a job... not fun at all! > >>>> > >>>> I bet they sell a lot based on the lights tho... vewwy vewwy pweeedy! > >>>> I might get one just to go on the wall! > >>>> > >>>> Mark > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Philip Conway > >>>> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> I pre-ordered Push yesterday. It's a sizable lump of money for a > >>>>> controller - especially one that I haven't been able to try out first > >>>>> hand - > >>>>> but I couldn't resist the introductory offer. It'll be here in just > >>>>> 12-14 > >>>>> weeks!... > >>>>> > >>>>> I'm quite excited about its potential as an instrument. One appealing > >>>>> thing is that, if the early reviews are to be believed, it is very well > >>>>> made > >>>>> and feels heavy and solid. This is no small thing for a musical > >>>>> instrument. > >>>>> It's much easier to 'lose yourself' and get into 'the zone', as they > >>>>> say, if > >>>>> you're playing something that just feels solid and high quality, rather > >>>>> than > >>>>> flimsy and plasticy. And, for me, whether or not you can 'lose > >>>>> yourself' in > >>>>> an instrument is ultimately the marker of whether it's any good or not.. > >>>>> > >>>>> In many ways Push makes much more sense than a traditional keyboard for > >>>>> performing and composing electronic music since it allows any scalar > >>>>> mapping > >>>>> of notes and makes that mapping intuitive by providing visual feedback.. > >>>>> In > >>>>> this way it seems to let the player find relationships between notes > >>>>> and > >>>>> sounds that don't rigidly adhere to the c-major scale structure of the > >>>>> piano-style keyboard. > >>>>> > >>>>> This is how it should be for electronic music, which is not being > >>>>> limited > >>>>> to the physical mechanisms of objects like the piano. The piano > >>>>> keyboard > >>>>> was an elegant invention but it resulted to some degree from the > >>>>> physical > >>>>> requirements of whacking strings with little hammers. Electronic music > >>>>> is > >>>>> completely free from such physical connections but, with some expensive > >>>>> exceptions (e.g. the Haken Continuum), instrument or interface design > >>>>> has > >>>>> lagged a long way behind what programmers and sound designers have > >>>>> achieved. > >>>>> > >>>>> Push looks like a step in the right direction in that respect. It's > >>>>> not > >>>>> revolutionary in concept but it appears to have been very well done - > >>>>> at > >>>>> least I hope so! > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Philip. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> --On 07 March 2013 12:15 +0100 Per Boysen wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:36 AM, michael noble > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> http://www.weareroli.com/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Anyone know anything more about this company or the controller? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Looks cool, like a "piano submarine" :-) A little thin on information > >>>>>> that page, isn't it? From the video it seems as notes are located in > >>>>>> linear way, similar to a piano? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I must say I'm more intrigued by Ableton's new instrument Push, due to > >>>>>> its non linear location of notes. The chromatic scale layout on Push > >>>>>> is based on rows differing by a fourths and this creates what to me > >>>>>> seems to very playable note locations. In fact, the hand patterns are > >>>>>> the same as if tapping a fourths tuned fretted string instrument. > >>>>>> Another aspect I like with the Push is that some notes appear at > >>>>>> several positions and can be played in unison but with different > >>>>>> attack/expression, this too in common with fretted string instruments.. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I've been using an Akai EWI4000s for some years and think it is the > >>>>>> most (musically) expressive MIDI controller instruments I've come > >>>>>> across. Since it is based on breath control rather than > >>>>>> hitting-something-with-a-hand velocity it a challenge to program good > >>>>>> synth patches to play. I think Yamaha was great in the 80s with breath > >>>>>> control but since then not much product development seems to have > >>>>>> happend im this area. THat's odd, thinking about how a simple hose to > >>>>>> blow into increases the expressiveness of any simple keyboard. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Greetings from Sweden > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Per Boysen > >>>>>> www.perboysen.com > >>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Mark Francombe > >>>> www.markfrancombe.com > >>>> www.ordoabkhao.com > >>>> http://vimeo.com/user825094 > >>>> http://www.looop.no > >>>> twitter @markfrancombe > >>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ > >>> > >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 8 10:18:07 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88F2F1834D2; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 10:18:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 10:17:56 +0000 From: Philip Conway To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: interesting controller/Ableton Push Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Originator-Info: login-token=Mulberry:01eXCpOenT4Wt3o++iuu7UDqe4nhicp+mdHKu6nxGhr+yeCpxy5ho=; token_authority=mailto:postmaster@bristol.ac.uk X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120472 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 10:18:07 +0000 (UTC) It has every kind of Western and many non-Western scales set up=20 out-of-the-box. They're selectable via a rotary knob and show up on the=20 LCD display. The device itself is 'plug-in-and-play'; no drivers to=20 install or anything. That's about as un-fiddly as I can imagine a device of this kind to be! :) Of course setting up custom scales will be a bit more complicated. But I=20 imagine 95% of the time I'll want major or minor or ionian or whatever -=20 and they're already there. --On 07 March 2013 20:58 +0100 mark francombe =20 wrote: > > Jesus Christ.. Does it work like that out of the box? I think not... ! > Can you imagine the hellish days and days of fiddly little assigning and > mapping and tweaking... Looks so much like a job... not fun at all! > > > I bet they sell a lot based on the lights tho... vewwy vewwy pweeedy! > I might get one just to go on the wall! > > > Mark > > > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Philip Conway > wrote: > > I pre-ordered Push yesterday. =C2=A0It's a sizable lump of money for a > controller - especially one that I haven't been able to try out first > hand - but I couldn't resist the introductory offer. =C2=A0It'll be here = in > just 12-14 weeks!... > > I'm quite excited about its potential as an instrument. =C2=A0One = appealing > thing is that, if the early reviews are to be believed, it is very well > made and feels heavy and solid. =C2=A0This is no small thing for a = musical > instrument. =C2=A0 It's much easier to 'lose yourself' and get into 'the > zone', as they say, if you're playing something that just feels solid and > high quality, rather than flimsy and plasticy. =C2=A0And, for me, whether = or > not you can 'lose yourself' in an instrument is ultimately the marker of > whether it's any good or not. > > In many ways Push makes much more sense than a traditional keyboard for > performing and composing electronic music since it allows any scalar > mapping of notes and makes that mapping intuitive by providing visual > feedback. =C2=A0In this way it seems to let the player find relationships > between notes and sounds that don't rigidly adhere to the c-major scale > structure of the piano-style keyboard. > > This is how it should be for electronic music, which is not being limited > to the physical mechanisms of objects like the piano. =C2=A0The piano > keyboard was an elegant invention but it resulted to some degree from the > physical requirements of whacking strings with little hammers. > =C2=A0Electronic music is completely free from such physical connections = but, > with some expensive exceptions (e.g. the Haken Continuum), instrument or > interface design has lagged a long way behind what programmers and sound > designers have achieved. > > Push looks like a step in the right direction in that respect. =C2=A0It's = not > revolutionary in concept but it appears to have been very well done - at > least I hope so! > > > > Philip. > > > --On 07 March 2013 12:15 +0100 Per Boysen wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:36 AM, michael noble wrote: > > http://www.weareroli.com/ > > Anyone know anything more about this company or the controller? > > > > Looks cool, like a "piano submarine" :-) =C2=A0A little thin on = information > that page, isn't it? From the video it seems as notes are located in > linear way, similar to a piano? > > I must say I'm more intrigued by Ableton's new instrument Push, due to > its non linear location of notes. The chromatic scale layout on Push > is based on rows differing by a fourths and this creates what to me > seems to very playable note locations. In fact, the hand patterns are > the same as if tapping a fourths tuned fretted string instrument. > Another aspect I like with the Push is that some notes appear at > several positions and can be played in unison but with different > attack/expression, this too in common with fretted string instruments. > > I've been using an Akai EWI4000s for some years and think it is the > most (musically) expressive MIDI controller instruments I've come > across. Since it is based on breath control rather than > hitting-something-with-a-hand velocity it a challenge to program good > synth patches to play. I think Yamaha was great in the 80s with breath > control but since then not much product development seems to have > happend im this area. THat's odd, thinking about how a simple hose to > blow into increases the expressiveness of any simple keyboard. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 8 10:21:40 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 860E01834D6; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 10:21:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 10:21:25 +0000 From: Philip Conway To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: interesting controller - where's the midi harmonica????? (Also Push question) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <410D4E86-B613-4FCA-8C22-6F04F5BB1AAC@gmail.com> References: <410D4E86-B613-4FCA-8C22-6F04F5BB1AAC@gmail.com> Originator-Info: login-token=Mulberry:01OVaPaKm5x5o3idXReq669NZ4hP7LZ6mDAtp6hffQb6yE8MsyzAA=; token_authority=mailto:postmaster@bristol.ac.uk X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <2Gm30.A.g9F.0ubORB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120473 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 10:21:40 +0000 (UTC) I think electronic instrument manufacturers are afraid of a bit of spittle. Cowards. And don't worry, most of what I write on this list is self-indulgent! --On 07 March 2013 12:47 -0800 Christopher Darrow wrote: > > > > Piano players get all the love. But the whole > playing-guitar-and-harmonica-at-the-same-time thing is so natural---it > really needs a modern update. (Actually piano players could use it too.) > > > AKAI can make a good enough midi sax (EWI) so why has nobody made > something with a form factor mimicking the harmonica-with-neck-holder? > That would be so freeing and brilliant. > > I'm about to buy Push and I'm sure it can be used as a midi controller > for any midi software (VDMX primarily in my case) but obviously wan to > confirm that first. I looked in the tech specs but didn't see specific > mention of it. Also wondering if they made a librarian/editor app for > such things. Anyone know? > > > I also wish Ableton/Novation would make a foot controller so I didn't > have to learn to program everything o get visual feedback.... Just 2 or > three rows with pads like those but fewer bigger round ones the diameter > of a tennis ball cut in half but not as tall of a dome---and a few arrows > and other basic controls. Maybe this is the year I finally figure out a > system that will work for me... Push with the Gordious LG, soft step, and > P.O.K.... Another year, another expensive controller. Hope this one is as > promised an that I can finally tame the Gordious and soft step. > > > Just thinking our loud... Sorry if that was self indulgent. > > > ---Christopher Darrow > > > On Mar 7, 2013, at 11:58 AM, mark francombe > wrote: > > > > > Jesus Christ.. Does it work like that out of the box? I think not... ! > Can you imagine the hellish days and days of fiddly little assigning and > mapping and tweaking... Looks so much like a job... not fun at all! > > > I bet they sell a lot based on the lights tho... vewwy vewwy pweeedy! > I might get one just to go on the wall! > > > Mark > > > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Philip Conway > wrote: > > I pre-ordered Push yesterday. It's a sizable lump of money for a > controller - especially one that I haven't been able to try out first > hand - but I couldn't resist the introductory offer. It'll be here in > just 12-14 weeks!... > > I'm quite excited about its potential as an instrument. One appealing > thing is that, if the early reviews are to be believed, it is very well > made and feels heavy and solid. This is no small thing for a musical > instrument. It's much easier to 'lose yourself' and get into 'the > zone', as they say, if you're playing something that just feels solid and > high quality, rather than flimsy and plasticy. And, for me, whether or > not you can 'lose yourself' in an instrument is ultimately the marker of > whether it's any good or not. > > In many ways Push makes much more sense than a traditional keyboard for > performing and composing electronic music since it allows any scalar > mapping of notes and makes that mapping intuitive by providing visual > feedback. In this way it seems to let the player find relationships > between notes and sounds that don't rigidly adhere to the c-major scale > structure of the piano-style keyboard. > > This is how it should be for electronic music, which is not being limited > to the physical mechanisms of objects like the piano. The piano keyboard > was an elegant invention but it resulted to some degree from the physical > requirements of whacking strings with little hammers. Electronic music > is completely free from such physical connections but, with some > expensive exceptions (e.g. the Haken Continuum), instrument or interface > design has lagged a long way behind what programmers and sound designers > have achieved. > > Push looks like a step in the right direction in that respect. It's not > revolutionary in concept but it appears to have been very well done - at > least I hope so! > > > > Philip. > > > --On 07 March 2013 12:15 +0100 Per Boysen wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:36 AM, michael noble wrote: > > http://www.weareroli.com/ > > Anyone know anything more about this company or the controller? > > > > Looks cool, like a "piano submarine" :-) A little thin on information > that page, isn't it? From the video it seems as notes are located in > linear way, similar to a piano? > > I must say I'm more intrigued by Ableton's new instrument Push, due to > its non linear location of notes. The chromatic scale layout on Push > is based on rows differing by a fourths and this creates what to me > seems to very playable note locations. In fact, the hand patterns are > the same as if tapping a fourths tuned fretted string instrument. > Another aspect I like with the Push is that some notes appear at > several positions and can be played in unison but with different > attack/expression, this too in common with fretted string instruments. > > I've been using an Akai EWI4000s for some years and think it is the > most (musically) expressive MIDI controller instruments I've come > across. Since it is based on breath control rather than > hitting-something-with-a-hand velocity it a challenge to program good > synth patches to play. I think Yamaha was great in the 80s with breath > control but since then not much product development seems to have > happend im this area. THat's odd, thinking about how a simple hose to > blow into increases the expressiveness of any simple keyboard. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 8 11:17:07 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4EE21834CF; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 11:17:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lQiswT97oZlmR+YuKyI/eCcfEXERBtCMcIuAzAPtOes=; b=FzEbWzWaUNbg26tqGXroBtp86bE31//RzHobLCkJaBFXy7BiDVwWP52ZqF+UlD+i8/ P+pqYSfx6v5xjClwvYXL+mNr38XV/xPjPWmTymvh6/b/1ydOayXHwgH1vWviWCGF3gSJ OwPvjN9yfDZ4Vj0R/heoHhrToliQzdKvUGkRquZ72ss2IMFXcwOw0O8B3V8TTqBGwQGo Z11fcBu8GK/vn3Gc/U20A4Gd3hsLe3vqLOv9WSTBW4ovLLaY7/mTOJWvhw6q0wzEkWXn 7dZuTwv/W7cjx0xjTBcKzravqR6bEx30kaodWN+C6KXLm9zmDGHupdvpeR+vRhm4fnOe 91dA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.33.167 with SMTP id s7mr649227vdi.52.1362741427405; Fri, 08 Mar 2013 03:17:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130308104521.00F85950.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> References: <065DAE9A-02BD-48B1-95FB-C52A99021EC3@gmail.com> <20130308104521.00F85950.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 12:17:07 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: interesting controller/Ableton Push From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120474 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 11:17:07 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Ben wrote: > Here's a first drawing: > http://julienbayle.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/UserMode_fromPush.png Coo, Ben. Thanks a lot! Seems one would need another complementary unit to give continuous fading functions. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 8 11:54:26 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB7C91834D3; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 11:54:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1362743665; bh=3e8ezO3ZqrhQyyu1dykWpOexbMTxf5NMFJb9wo2gWIY=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Date:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Message-Id:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer; b=pBaQ5CIs88pHqSy2Pw3D21t6Rd5wj7XEe7a1hsyvBU+q4tobBUgaPJ+cGFG1UXZb4olIKSidXuuQgDmYiuYA+3gieQ39CdopwS3Hmk5FNxcOAy9zsCBmkwGriY0h0/j7Kn3t4yiE3Mwwha+eJEMW6o4FRnQUYxJ5qilOa1+y9Cc= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 588829.72831.bm@smtp149.mail.ird.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: vi2EhhAVM1kFvSyYcI6Pnm.a5pifH9slZbzMp2VrBB_X76a 3BnzqqogQPOOQ3FiSbIwrE8NC5ya5NzDATqHxuXt_By4RMJIosoimAvZmNHv QzKeXd_wx8getQjeVnS3VxfmuIs88ccUu.Pf77tVF2y5P1v.ft94L0aAXdEM 9BeTMxS81fECMdTz3sCUTt.L7U5FSVjBg31g3F4HOvd3_otvFw.lxBSCmOA8 GgulZw.kaSwujHAri2TfeEbzCJM.W7inog9dm2l2ZPDmzNPv0JF6nbUtWz0l wnkaBSzgUmYZR4JlDTz6Exjrq_au1c_k9M8XTkZe2UncKnuEUNA0iiMU22mr eEfAX_ABzppn6FW6HTAVgUQxOmC4ALAa_9cDdJfbvUIKBtllYQ4LmHe1RHGM AvWSRQA5D34Efm1zdh4QoyW879IKffrdr4faBU330c24LnnxjHLnG54Lw6P7 s_PMdJLvUVdjOwQzFfAAho0RftkDte6yXZho4b5wQXBCUK9Z0CrSIdUDtPyy 37xya0ubwrN7dm6jsAkKC_duZ7aPpbUsr640Lka9Re3CVtXHIJELDTfC_NwT N2WiUhkDip14fEeUiUiuftojfZUnhsPIBOESADsAIwVI4Ritb1odgM5SPPH6 M2yi9PaIu_7.DjJcfbCga X-Yahoo-SMTP: 75CdczOswBChen.W3AbLhaW8TlC96TVo5w-- From: Ben To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 12:54:25 +0100 Subject: Re: interesting controller/Ableton Push In-Reply-To: References: <20130308104521.00F85950.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> Message-Id: <20130308125425.9F012628.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: nPOPuk Ver 2.16 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120475 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 11:54:26 +0000 (UTC) Yes, some faders might be great but if you don't mind having "row of leds" faders, I think the integration with max4live will be the key in the future: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jyPRj7604ew and http://julienbayle.net/ableton-push/ musician or software engineer? Greetings from Belgium, Ben -------------------------------------------------- Per Boysen wrote: (08/03/2013 12:17) > On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Ben wrote: > > Here's a first drawing: > > http://julienbayle.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/UserMode_fromPush.png > > Coo, Ben. Thanks a lot! Seems one would need another complementary > unit to give continuous fading functions. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 8 12:52:42 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8AF841834D6; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 12:52:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <51392362.4060701@cruzio.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-C9E8B9B0-2413-4A76-9499-492DE0B0E327 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <70B9A96C-9FF0-48C4-9EDD-E4415432BFBE@grubmah.com> Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10B146) From: Mark Hamburg Subject: Re: EDP, circa 2003 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 04:52:38 -0800 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120476 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 12:52:42 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-C9E8B9B0-2413-4A76-9499-492DE0B0E327 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Toulouse! Toulouse! On Mar 7, 2013, at 7:26 PM, Todd Elliott wrote: > Spruce Goose! Spruce Goose! >=20 > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Rick Walker wrote: >> Abstruse! Abstruce! >>=20 >>=20 >> Philip Clevenger wrote: >>> Obtuse ! Obtuse ! >>>=20 >>> Toddbert wrote: >>>=20 >>>> I'm not being obtuse. I genuinely did not know that edp=3Dechoplex. She= esh. >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> mark francombe wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> Todd, you are being obtuse.. seeing as the EDP is the single most ofte= n discussed looper on this list!! However, I had a Wasp, and a Gnat... and t= hey were fab synths.. wish I still had on... but I ust got a Wasp Tshirt... a= nd I get knowing nods in the street... >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> john floridis wrote: >>>> Oh, my bad....Echoplex, as In Echoplex Digital Pro plus. >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > http://toaster.bandcamp.com --Apple-Mail-C9E8B9B0-2413-4A76-9499-492DE0B0E327 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Toulouse! Toulouse!

On Mar 7, 2013, at 7:26 PM, Todd Elliott <toddbert@gmail.com> wrote:

Spruce Goose! Spruce Goose!

On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
Abstruse!   Abstruce!


 Philip Clevenger wrote:
Obtuse ! Obtuse !

 Toddbert <toddbert@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm not being obtuse. I genuinely did not know that edp=echoplex. Sheesh.



mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:

Todd, you are being obtuse.. seeing as the EDP is the single most often discussed looper on this list!! However, I had a Wasp, and a Gnat... and they were fab synths.. wish I still had on... but I ust got a Wasp Tshirt... and I get knowing nods in the street...



 john floridis <john@johnfloridis.com> wrote:
Oh, my bad....Echoplex, as In Echoplex Digital Pro plus.




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--Apple-Mail-C9E8B9B0-2413-4A76-9499-492DE0B0E327-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 8 13:30:00 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 894B71834D0; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 13:30:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=OJVK1Krb99K4k3W9W4TR3VXII5ghgFV3hycnvYlKco0=; b=HhXQa5zOHdPYki+73L+M3Rn/ffblDkWALGjzLTkoGic8jjp6xuHJUHV3GxutGQGRW+ JPgINScXK/9n8AacAX8ahXG/RbsDImYkStng7FPudjMPlaur3fTrlFlbg3PsUcVqSG75 RlPVeh28jNyGJQd95T/cpih2MpkGBm3qUHBaG9ly/5uZj3yQrmFhrzk+Il/gao0AL04W aKg7+H93zzBsiLJ+7V+SefZyVpl8RL8zF5qSb/ZTpR9mhCYVWTsIbS5eucA6d2IzaaVN 35y/39InCuvPnYmh0HW/RP+3gkBOfRzBe4B3C9f7c67oIqUdq271XJrr/laPJWnxPXk3 ciWg== X-Received: by 10.14.216.198 with SMTP id g46mr5501044eep.30.1362749399667; Fri, 08 Mar 2013 05:29:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5139E7D1.3050907@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 14:29:53 +0100 From: Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: interesting controller - where's the midi harmonica????? (Also Push question) References: <410D4E86-B613-4FCA-8C22-6F04F5BB1AAC@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <410D4E86-B613-4FCA-8C22-6F04F5BB1AAC@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120477 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 13:30:00 +0000 (UTC) Maybe because playing harmonica with neck holder does not look cool in any way on promo videos? > AKAI can make a good enough midi sax (EWI) so why has nobody made > something with a form factor mimicking the harmonica-with-neck-holder? > That would be so freeing and brilliant. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 8 15:22:45 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E1F21834D2; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 15:22:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Ywgb96VBzwbrYY8KMJkt8mP1oUwV0aKIegpzwFwGpL8=; b=E+Z0bVp8OJ1NSB76yZDEPF9x5YUW6lsT3Vo4R7Y8XcSf1Vp+BYeRay8MvgMvRAUgmr SCR+aewUzkwEB2Di1VG5cGdNSywha/DbYbHHLi1jR8PwKePcqbdnZhjAvQt21njjGnzs WMo64tMuM/mwn5uYCUCVCM9yC6P7RoNoBLLtsUliwg4ilfBIvuorBtwxV+yv2RJLjN+Z 8OkEJr06dGAh4fVH/+XIidJ32AXq2U5wrlR91Eiy7uamnhiuRWBbXSl53AesQxCgmwFn hdU/26unpFD1eG/d/4zjllt4eJRGCEbPcN9h0o5GDl5g8HBYlIPWwlEGzExHtRZC/Qyj exgQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.229.78.25 with SMTP id i25mr830299qck.153.1362756164664; Fri, 08 Mar 2013 07:22:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5139E7D1.3050907@googlemail.com> References: <410D4E86-B613-4FCA-8C22-6F04F5BB1AAC@gmail.com> <5139E7D1.3050907@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 10:22:44 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: interesting controller - where's the midi harmonica????? (Also Push question) From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120478 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 15:22:45 +0000 (UTC) Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the Millioniser: http://www.my2nz.com/millioniser_contact_form/M2000-Manual-E-with-MIDI_Compliments_Ronald_Schlimme_Millioniser_Engineer.pdf http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2011/09/13/the-millioniser-2000-midi-wind-controller-is-like-a-midi-harmonica/ It was built as a synth, but it had MIDI out. Sylvain From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 8 15:35:07 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 477641834D2; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 15:35:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=L9VDwkEBt22Ijkb8y9L1mUKOwO5djKxaABnSuYy7EoHUUMm5jD7FdL1lo5pA2jP3; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <410D4E86-B613-4FCA-8C22-6F04F5BB1AAC@gmail.com> <5139E7D1.3050907@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 10:35:01 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: interesting controller - where's the midi harmonica????? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-849365590==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec7919179dbccac42cabba0ce481f9aa0f41350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120479 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 15:35:07 +0000 (UTC) --============_-849365590==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" I'm sure that there are plenty of people who would drool over a MIDI harmonica... -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://albumcredits.com/zmix --============_-849365590==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: interesting controller - where's the midi harmonica???
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From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120480 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 18:05:10 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > I'm sure that there are plenty of people who would drool over a MIDI > harmonica... LOL! 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To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-30515679-635675648-1362766961=:78064" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120481 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 18:22:43 +0000 (UTC) ---30515679-635675648-1362766961=:78064 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I prefer drooling in a real harmonica:-)=0A=0Aactually isn't there a harmon= ica midi controller out there somewhere?=0A=0AAntony Hequet=0A=0A=0A_______= _________________________=0A De=A0: Per Boysen =0A=C0= =A0: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =0AEnvoy=E9 le : Vendredi 8 mars 2= 013 19h05=0AObjet=A0: Re: interesting controller - where's the midi harmoni= ca?????=0A =0AOn Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote:=0A> I'm sure that there are plenty of people who would dr= ool over a MIDI=0A> harmonica...=0A=0ALOL!=0A=0AGreetings from Sweden=0A=0A= Per Boysen=0Awww.perboysen.com=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/perboysen ---30515679-635675648-1362766961=:78064 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I prefer drooling in a real harmonica:-)
actually isn't there= a harmonica midi controller out there somewhere?

Antony Hequet

De : Per Boysen <perboysen@gm= ail.com>
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Envoy=E9 le : Vendredi 8 mars 2013 19h05
Objet : Re: interesting controller = - where's the midi harmonica?????

On Fri, Mar 8, 201= 3 at 4:35 PM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wr= ote:
> I'm sure that there are plenty of people who would drool over a MIDI
> h= armonica...

LOL!

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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---30515679-635675648-1362766961=:78064-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 8 18:23:40 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5EAB1834D4; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 18:23:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: Buzap To: "LD LoopersDelight" Subject: Ditto Looper in-depth review Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 19:23:39 +0100 (CET) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:ooeCYLLzYbvs/JchLTNxKJDDkYZQnPJId0x6RESWk3H yePy2dBMX8ddWJPwacpw8Y2VH+VQDC6SN+jVTLYKpW0NAjTlMo TyPrHMSl3QoQkbJeqnncfTgrtf07noTvCuCYQe314w9tkO8T4q e9VXM/0MYOLAI5jiUCeK7Y2+9ZkFmxXTVdI4Eb1NILZQtdzGbb 906NXw+6DMMVnyveXCBbjAUjLo1a3Y7oh1uEOcA+begvyPB6pa gT1MOYQa4QvGy7lXR1uQaSQvLXfSQZNcF/LZh/qAjZSzywaW0J fdU4r8= Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120482 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 18:23:40 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks I've just received my new TC Electronic Ditto Looper yesterday. Here is my review. When I first took the box and opened it, my initial reaction was: it's so tiny & cute. I could almost cuddle it... ;-) Nonetheless, it comes in a sturdy metal case, the level knob, the button... everything really looks & feels top notch. (Nice detail: rubber pads are not attached on the bottom but provided optional, depending on how you want it on your pedalboard.) (Not nice detail: I know this thing is idiot-proof, but the manual is only available as PDF on the website, not included). The foot-switch itself works very well, even though it's really tiny. I would recommend placing it in a horizontal (not original vertical) position. This way, you can see the LED when your foot is on the switch. Next thing, I grabbed a 9V batter and opened it up. I should have been suspicious because I needed a very weird screwdriver for this. It turns out: the thing is packed, no space for battery. Just AC power option. So I'm getting my 9V AC adaptar. Next to the large AC power plug, the Ditto Looper suddenly doesn't look so cute & tiny anymore... I kind of get the minimal footprint vision and it makes sense on most pedalboards. Personally, however, I'd also like to throw in the small pedal into my backpack when I feel like (you never know when the next opportunity for live looping arises...). Also, some guitarists who rarely use the looper might appreciate a battery option. Let's hope there will be a battery option here in the future that is only slightly bigger (i.e. like the PolyTune vs PolyTune mini). Let's talk about the sound (- and this has actually been the main reason for me to get another one-button looper alongside the Boss RC-2). I want a looper for my pedalboard that I can leave on the FX chain and that won't deliver a blurry digital sound or any noise. All I can say is: The Ditto Looper lives up to its "true-bypass analog-dry-thru etc." marketing hype. The sound through my studio monitors has been pristine, crystal clear. It's really a joy hearing the clean loops... This may sound as something simple, but actually is a big thing. If you want a looper in your FX chain for performance, clean sound is absolutely essential. I haven't fully tested how the Ditto Looper behaves with line level input/output. It kind of seems that guitar signal goes through as a standard guitar signal (analog dry-through...). However the looped sound might go out as line level. Haven't figured out yet... Now, let's look at the looping functionality. I must admit, before today, I was quite worried because an initial prototype reviewer mentioned that you couldn't tell the Play vs Overdub mode apart. Much to my relief I can say: No problem at all. I'm absolutely delighted how the one LED light works: - Empty loop = Black (nothing) - Record = Red - Play = Green - Overdub = Red (yes!) - Undo/Redo = Blinks for short time - Stop = Blinking green - And here is the best feature: In Play/Overdub mode, whenever the loop passes the starting point, it briefly blinks just once. When I remember how often I had a two-bar loop where I couldn't tell the loop starting point on my RC-50... This should be a default feature for all hardware loopers!!! Simple, yet brilliant... This whole LED display functionality gives you the feeling that people at TC Electronics have put attention into details. The looper features themselves are pretty straightforward: Record, Play, Overdub, Undo/Redo (last layer), Stop, Delete. I haven't measured if the looping time is really 5 minutes, but it is plenty. Here more in detail: - 1. Press: Record (immediately, with foot down) - 2. Press: Play (immediately) - 3. Press: Overdub (foot up) - 4. Press: Play (immediately) - Long-press (in play mode): Toggle Undo/Redo last layer - Double-press: Stop - Double-press with Long-press: Stops immediately, then deletes loop - After double-press (stop-mode), Press: Re-starts loop (immediately) - After double-press (stop-mode), Long-press: Deletes loop (yet, plays loop again before delete!!) Here is the problem: In Stop-Mode, long-press will delete the loop. However, until the long press kicks in, the initial press will re-trigger the loop - until it finally stops and gets deleted. Interestingly, the Boss RC-2 has the same "feature" (that's where the optional 2nd pedal was useful). So, for deleting the loop, you have three options: 1.) Double-press with long-press: Stop the loop & delete at same time. 2.) In stop-mode, turn down loop level to 0, then long-press for delete. 3.) In stop-mode, double-press (as quick as possible) with long press. (this is what the PDF manual actually recommends). This is a serious issue that requires a work-around imo. Finally, one more positive detail: When you plug-off the looper while there is a loop on it, it will store it. Next time you plug-in the looper, the last loop is there, available in stop-mode. So, to sum it up - I am very happy with the Ditto Looper and will definitely keep it. The sturdy build, the attention to details (i.e. the LED), the perfect sound quality... I can't remember having enjoyed any one-pedal-looper so much. The sound quality alone makes such a huge difference... That being said, there are a few disadvantages I should also mention at the end: Lack of battery really limits the flexibility. Let's hope - just like the PolyTune vs PolyTune Mini - they come with a slightly larger battery version. (I would certainly get it). Concerning functionality, this is a very well-thought device. Nevertheless, I still see room for improvement: - In Stop-Mode, LongPress should delete the loop without re-playing the loop (until longpress kicks in). For this, you'd have to compromise the re-trigger a bit (re-start loop in stop-mode only when foot goes up). But it would be worth it in terms of functionality. - While we're at it: Why not finally add a Mulitply function? (Activate it with LongPress in Overdub-Mode; blinking red light in multiply mode). That would be so sweet!! Especially, the long-press delete could - and should - easily be implemented with an update via USB port (yes, Ditto Looper has a USB port!). If someone could convince TC Electronics... So, final verdict: If you are looking for a fun, mobile looper for jamming, I'd probably stick with something like the Boss RC-2/RC-3 that gives you a battery option ("rhythm"/tempo accomp. might be also useful for jamming). However, if you want a high-quality yet simple, affordable,& minimalistic looper for your live performance rig (that doesn't compromise sound quality in your FX chain), the Ditto Looper might be the best choice so far. best regards Buzap From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 8 18:31:13 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B08E1834D3; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 18:31:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Y7J+Xxwu0gjY6Mhm17d6hA2yjnBN1qDMVIWFv5AmR+4=; b=Dk3rzIo8Ra6xGOa0ZQnw6PjA+PL5SQT0kDxKzyouUFKkYaLgEpLELLn5rErTX9q0UZ b61oTCGRJuyA/yWHk/MLuG8POrTf3rzk5Q9bWPgipNWJCD500PtoW4hzSd0knlNGAps4 evc3tQGC0NOUDNAdSA5+AK8UA6SHBucLOrqjwRrDuckWkgrKOoZkLCa9snP6GRw7YENH lQtI52RTOkZebBYztsHg/hZZeBLEqs9BYWNBT4shzz3c5a8jppO520CSRwyIvYTcLu1q y4lP/E+6+ARHVuiJ0OimPmbDrolC3vqA5N/gLkqNxn8JKjqAGTvNcPHvqAz35j0fppDu 5SHA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.144.42 with SMTP id sj10mr2585497obb.66.1362767472613; Fri, 08 Mar 2013 10:31:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <410D4E86-B613-4FCA-8C22-6F04F5BB1AAC@gmail.com> <5139E7D1.3050907@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 10:31:12 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: interesting controller - where's the midi harmonica????? (Also Push question) From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120483 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 18:31:13 +0000 (UTC) Or http://www.xharp.com/Info.html Still prototyping but who knows... Kevin Looks like its going to be far larger than a regular harmonica for now On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the Millioniser: > > http://www.my2nz.com/millioniser_contact_form/M2000-Manual-E-with-MIDI_Compliments_Ronald_Schlimme_Millioniser_Engineer.pdf > > http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2011/09/13/the-millioniser-2000-midi-wind-controller-is-like-a-midi-harmonica/ > > It was built as a synth, but it had MIDI out. > > Sylvain > -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 8 18:45:14 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A3EB71834D3; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 18:45:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 08 Mar 2013 18:45:14 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 12:41:34 -0500 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Doctor T at Outpost 186 this weekend Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Experimental Film Discussion List Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <1EG2bD.A.FVC.6GjORB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120484 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 18:45:14 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, 2 exciting events this weekend at outpost 186 March 9 at 8:30 PM brings Visual Music Live to Outpost 186, with old friend and very special guest David Rothenberg Doctor T video mixing featuring guest artist David Rothenberg -- Nature Samples, Laptop, and Clarinet and regular collaborators Eric Crawley -- harpejji and Electronics Tom Mungenast -- Electric Guitar, Electric Sitar, and Electronics ECM recording artist David Rothenberg has performed and recorded on clarinet with Jan Bang, Scanner, Glen Velez, Karl Berger, Peter Gabriel, Ray Phiri, and the Karnataka College of Percussion. He has twelve CDs out under his own name, including "On the Cliffs of the Heart," named one of the top ten releases of 1995 by Jazziz magazine and "One Dark Night I Left My Silent House," a duet album with pianist Marilyn Crispell, called "une petite miracle" by Le Monde and named by The Village Voice one of the ten best CDs of 2010. Rothenberg is the author of Why Birds Sing, book and CD, published in seven languages and the subject of a BBC television documentary. He is also the author of numerous other books on music, art, and nature, including Thousand Mile Song, about making music with whales, and Survival of the Beautiful, about aesthetics in evolution. Last spring he released a book and CD called Bug Music, featuring the sounds of the entomological world. You'll hear some of them tonight. http://www.zeitgeist-outpost.org March 10 8 PM is a rescheduled Visual Music Live event at Outpost 186 in Cambridge, featuring The OUTPOST Band Doctor T -- Video mixing Eric Zinman --Drums Andrea Pensado -- Electronics and voice Michael Bloom -- Table Guitar and bouzouki Rick Scott -- Keyboard Improvisation to the outer limits. Expect the unexpected-:) -- "I rang a silent bell ..." -- Robert Hunter "... cast your dancing spell my way, I promise to go under it" -- Bob Dylan My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 8 19:39:34 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BFEDA1834D2; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 19:39:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 838702357/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.190.154/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.190.154 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMBAOs9OlFV0r6a/2dsb2JhbAANNogjvCuBcYMgAQEBBCMVQBELGAICBRYLAgIJAwIBAgFFHAGwYXGSOoEjjXAWgheBEwOcOY4W X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,810,1355097600"; d="scan'208";a="838702357" Message-ID: <513A3E7A.4000106@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 19:39:38 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Ditto Looper in-depth review References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120485 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 19:39:34 +0000 (UTC) Hi Buzap, fantastic review! Any chance you can answer 2 more points? 1) Undo/Redo. when exactly do those functions occur? After the switch has been held a while? or on it's release? The second option being the preferred. 2) During overdub, is feedback dropped a little bit to allow you to just keep on overdubbing without too much fear of overload? ( easy to check with a short loop) andy Buzap wrote: > Hi folks > > I've just received my new TC Electronic Ditto Looper yesterday. Here is my review. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 8 20:06:20 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0DD921834D3; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 20:06:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 161276.73015.bm@omp1023.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1362773178; bh=GcyoGXaZYRLZYcnBc5sJAJBl0n2N4kpjELnzu//HHDE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=I+ZNNemWfu3atiZN5enpSuMkN5PPqG8oFiOaWS9hAuSdonkBwXaQBhsLiO9X+IFlkM0dHqs3vMlSzV3ypFGosccHDbfO0ht+/4lq2x99yd4SYhp6gE8X+eQ0HratldJ0v7myo/oXAW51bd1Jazq1jxJSMYLQECrYArMvWutFDKM= X-YMail-OSG: PHI58JQVM1nTl9JjWV.yNVjSxRtlzHq_pmja2SBTm2oS3N5 uzYlO.n.PyMO7lmQ2uGZM3hlDehaBr8ynvitNJcG64d.Nh_QLOHQOVLeA77J u8sS3i_MCxoAjKahAbk78wefMLlajHjqmunb65f907..ym2aBU4riuoISbuX iZ_sG24icVcwPoQIXHYs0OMS2B9uaiku9h9y0k80nwGGS2qutGZcRMMD3Lvm xl0b_M7lhUhlLUoc2uTu4tCd6DvvtLJv9AdLeYI6dh5gliyEtto8BSuuSbua J41DpOt_1HUaimL1qLpmnRkGh_yO2kTNMq_eHG45slT16.Pp4lK3L0CgwM.f hbrKyYGuYWMl5mPkr0or2zHmD0UpH_an2fHeABQ1bbSc_NFYC1roB0F5rASr O58MJuaemGamlL501a.lqTwv.5HYxTD_UOIYrbmswkTH04M4yINtFbcaAO0Y PINIu6mMhs6LV_KNbt2Z2uNCPAb36YB6Th2uIHtXoBNG5tOClL9o.KjCjlaP p1vIWbJGvXW1fH0pSyt_Y73u5TcVi6ST.kaxHHCsJcrsRrlmKdOdL6kSOHav iJCkQedJ.yULRujzdDCaiXEyQPbzIRa4YZZz71CTWelmddCIxY47FkX5NQsy lzRcl9FM54p_WDocXhmbYlLRwpLlKSnIlQopFTgPgxTXAzkE3xnEcbEkM_SQ HS1nf7LZSP4rPWaHHQBTAB_LNKOJsHoSvQqN1XhyXXK7AdBg5Moyxmrd5NmC c50nVZ7Dr6W4Nd_FKRevP6EPNPzLcoEtZ4WwU_zLE4s4yHIRaIs_LEmDbrSR 6qqQDORjN7hEVijTLnixRilZyrrdfE.dCFzVxrUp.JrlaTzxWyxMN6cDoujt A8j5GFTz5bjIbgSSgKPJDxqof6RB5tg-- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,DQpFbWlsZSwgY291bGQgeW91IHBsZWFzZSBub3RlIHRoYXQgbXkgbmFtZSBpcywgaW4gZmFjdCwgKlRpbSogTXVuZ2VuYXN0PyBUaGFua3MhDQoNClRpbSBNdW5nZW5hc3QNCkVkaXRvci9Xcml0ZXIvUHJvb2ZyZWFkZXI6IHd3dy5saW5rZWRpbi5jb20vaW4vdGltbXVuZ2VuYXN0DQpHdWl0YXJpc3QvQ29tcG9zZXIvVm9jYWxpc3Q6IHd3dy5yZXZlcmJuYXRpb24uY29tL3RpbW11bmdlbmFzdA0KDQotLS0gT24gRnJpLCAzLzgvMTMsIEVtaWxlIFRvYmVuZmVsZCAoYS5rLmEgRHIuIFQpIDxlbWlsZUBmb3J5b3UBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.8.135.514 Message-ID: <1362773178.26035.YahooMailClassic@web84506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 12:06:18 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Mungenast Subject: Re: Doctor T at Outpost 186 this weekend To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="2024485249-1422147864-1362773178=:26035" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120486 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 20:06:19 +0000 (UTC) --2024485249-1422147864-1362773178=:26035 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Emile, could you please note that my name is, in fact, *Tim* Mungenast? Tha= nks! Tim Mungenast Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast --- On Fri, 3/8/13, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) w= rote: From: Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) Subject: Doctor T at Outpost 186 this weekend To: DrTVideo@egroups.com Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, L= oopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, "Experiment= al Film Discussion List" Date: Friday, March 8, 2013, 12:41 PM Hi folks, 2 exciting events this weekend=A0 at outpost 186 March 9 at 8:30 PM=A0 brings Visual Music Live to Outpost 186, with old fri= end and very special guest David Rothenberg Doctor T video mixing featuring guest artist David Rothenberg -- Nature Samples, Laptop, and Clarinet and regular collaborators Eric Crawley -- harpejji and Electronics Tom Mungenast -- Electric Guitar, Electric Sitar, and Electronics ECM recording artist David Rothenberg has performed and recorded on clarine= t with Jan Bang, Scanner, Glen Velez, Karl Berger, Peter Gabriel, Ray Phiri= , and the Karnataka College of Percussion.=A0 He has twelve CDs out under h= is own name, including "On the Cliffs of the Heart," named one of the top t= en releases of 1995 by Jazziz magazine and "One Dark Night I Left My Silent= House,"=A0 a duet album with pianist Marilyn Crispell, called "une petite = miracle" by Le Monde and named by The Village Voice one of the ten best CDs= of 2010. Rothenberg is the author of Why Birds Sing, book and CD, publishe= d in seven languages and the subject of a BBC television documentary. He is= also the author of numerous other books on music, art, and nature, includi= ng Thousand Mile Song, about making music with whales, and Survival of the = Beautiful, about aesthetics in evolution.=A0 Last spring he released a book= and CD called Bug Music, featuring the sounds of the entomological world.=A0 You'll hear some of them tonight. http://www.zeitgeist-outpost.org March 10 8 PM=A0=A0=A0is a rescheduled Visual Music Live event at Outpost 1= 86 in Cambridge, featuring The OUTPOST Band Doctor T -- Video mixing Eric Zinman --Drums Andrea Pensado -- Electronics and voice Michael Bloom=A0 -- Table Guitar and bouzouki Rick Scott -- Keyboard Improvisation to the outer limits. Expect the unexpected-:) -- "I rang a silent bell ..."=A0 -- Robert Hunter "... cast your dancing spell my way, I promise to go under it" -- Bob Dylan My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/c= ollections/72157603627170351/ --2024485249-1422147864-1362773178=:26035 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Emile, could you please note that my name= is, in fact, *Tim* Mungenast? Thanks!

Tim Mungenast
Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast
Guitari= st/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast
--- On Fri, 3/8/13, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) <emile@foryourhead.com> wrote:
Date: = Friday, March 8, 2013, 12:41 PM

Hi folks,
2 exciting events this weekend  at outpost 186

March 9 a= t 8:30 PM  brings Visual Music Live to Outpost 186, with old friend an= d very special guest David Rothenberg

Doctor T video mixing

f= eaturing guest artist

David Rothenberg -- Nature Samples, Laptop, an= d Clarinet

and regular collaborators

Eric Crawley -- harpejji and Electronics
Tom Mungenast -- Electric Guitar, Electric Sit= ar, and Electronics

ECM recording artist David Rothenberg has perfor= med and recorded on clarinet with Jan Bang, Scanner, Glen Velez, Karl Berge= r, Peter Gabriel, Ray Phiri, and the Karnataka College of Percussion. = He has twelve CDs out under his own name, including "On the Cliffs of the = Heart," named one of the top ten releases of 1995 by Jazziz magazine and "O= ne Dark Night I Left My Silent House,"  a duet album with pianist Mari= lyn Crispell, called "une petite miracle" by Le Monde and named by The Vill= age Voice one of the ten best CDs of 2010. Rothenberg is the author of Why = Birds Sing, book and CD, published in seven languages and the subject of a = BBC television documentary. He is also the author of numerous other books o= n music, art, and nature, including Thousand Mile Song, about making music = with whales, and Survival of the Beautiful, about aesthetics in evolution.  Last spring he released a book and CD called Bug Music, f= eaturing the sounds of the entomological world.  You'll hear some of t= hem tonight.

<http://www.zeitgeist-outpost.org>http://www.zeitgeist-outpost.org

March 10 8 PM   is a rescheduled Visual Music Live= event at Outpost 186 in Cambridge, featuring The OUTPOST Band
Doctor T = -- Video mixing
Eric Zinman --Drums
Andrea Pensado -- Electronics and= voice
Michael Bloom  -- Table Guitar and bouzouki
Rick Scott --= Keyboard

Improvisation to the outer limits. Expect the unexpected-:= )

-- "I rang a silent bell ..."  -- Robert Hunter
"... cast = your dancing spell my way, I promise to go under it" -- Bob Dylan

My= photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collect= ions/72157603627170351/

--2024485249-1422147864-1362773178=:26035-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 8 20:34:21 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F289D1834D4; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 20:34:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: In-reply-to: <1362773178.26035.YahooMailClassic@web84506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1362773178.26035.YahooMailClassic@web84506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 15:32:47 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Re: Doctor T at Outpost 186 this weekend Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120487 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 20:34:20 +0000 (UTC) Sorry Tim. What with Copy and paste,the lifespan of a typo can be very long. >Emile, could you please note that my name is, in fact, *Tim* >Mungenast? Thanks! > >Tim Mungenast >Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast >Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast > >--- On Fri, 3/8/13, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) > wrote: > > >From: Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) >Subject: Doctor T at Outpost 186 this weekend >To: DrTVideo@egroups.com >Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, >iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, >atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, "Experimental Film Discussion List" > >Date: Friday, March 8, 2013, 12:41 PM > >Hi folks, > >2 exciting events this weekend at outpost 186 > >March 9 at 8:30 PM brings Visual Music Live to Outpost 186, with >old friend and very special guest David Rothenberg > >Doctor T video mixing > >featuring guest artist > >David Rothenberg -- Nature Samples, Laptop, and Clarinet > >and regular collaborators > >Eric Crawley -- harpejji and Electronics >Tom Mungenast -- Electric Guitar, Electric Sitar, and Electronics > >ECM recording artist David Rothenberg has performed and recorded on >clarinet with Jan Bang, Scanner, Glen Velez, Karl Berger, Peter >Gabriel, Ray Phiri, and the Karnataka College of Percussion. He has >twelve CDs out under his own name, including "On the Cliffs of the >Heart," named one of the top ten releases of 1995 by Jazziz magazine >and "One Dark Night I Left My Silent House," a duet album with >pianist Marilyn Crispell, called "une petite miracle" by Le Monde >and named by The Village Voice one of the ten best CDs of 2010. >Rothenberg is the author of Why Birds Sing, book and CD, published >in seven languages and the subject of a BBC television documentary. >He is also the author of numerous other books on music, art, and >nature, including Thousand Mile Song, about making music with >whales, and Survival of the Beautiful, about aesthetics in >evolution. Last spring he released a book and CD called Bug Music, >featuring the sounds of the entomological world. You'll hear some >of them tonight. > ><http://www.zeitgeist-outpost.org>http://www.zeitgeist-outpost.org > >March 10 8 PM is a rescheduled Visual Music Live event at Outpost >186 in Cambridge, featuring The OUTPOST Band >Doctor T -- Video mixing >Eric Zinman --Drums >Andrea Pensado -- Electronics and voice >Michael Bloom -- Table Guitar and bouzouki >Rick Scott -- Keyboard > >Improvisation to the outer limits. Expect the unexpected-:) > >-- "I rang a silent bell ..." -- Robert Hunter >"... cast your dancing spell my way, I promise to go under it" -- Bob Dylan > >My photography can be viewed at >http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ -- -- Emile If you can walk, you can surely DANCE My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 8 20:46:26 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B58E1834D3; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 20:46:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 969446.1291.bm@omp1011.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1362775584; bh=03dxX7xK/EsUWnJIRV7aDaaFmcer7bvo2bQc7yIOAtk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=E4kCu8bnOAc2TMMGyqLvGrv38OThv2iQ4omszwDVsEfFSkvBa9VEfl+id90AHNpxqjv684IkOPKnR3rC6t8sYEDUbpULL9yMh7Y8Y3d/4T4iPSk7r7X1kzWjVYZnX26Fjt8DDlmAh28r99NC11RuA5cmmm//N2t6LI1rpQ1teU4= X-YMail-OSG: NZ.CC4UVM1mmtOTYuXDv05jMu6szW92uK17xjri1I_iWw5f y1iCjmvTm8i2aZmr4uygoPF7lW0gC6iTaLFfRG2j1z0OSeskaBdPdIcIzoSZ 6SxoUv9AQWB0fRnz6eyZ8vtK4KRwJFMqDZ_TeaPWJavjgQr2BUoXlD6q310L mUaMR6EypwzYr17lhYnzWxg5JdGWcf459xMjYgCaUXEyO45wUF4lri95fxES Gv21nq0GOYVQwAdlmd8KCWDfzSTMfR9BrTrGkKvQRWPuv2Pw6wi8QzErj4xG guJB0dgSz4RdAwsPwkWVqUUU_9loMgeM1vUI_9jYJbI_x_mzffnpd85Deubd SNnnb.AlPuRFRu0QE7WAkw16xNTHB0J1CvwfUpiq14MdYkzh7dgriMEodgcl YAyLFQivrV1W73s8hJBrGqqept51dg.zcgluCFx1r7Ed7vOtaVY8O6k9Og8y Nq5vlcNVugCl_8orDQ.c8HJkYFvJgFoyAaGFDAgRNP7mhfWQVF3DQsPJnxVB 2yMbydG22xGXVEHpd378wHWVrC4sg7pr20ri8gHbCaMdTUx9HdjhDJzu.dpU rqURm.a1j5LZKETpRIbhK27yRpmho58TtbGQ6q6Yk7B.r8kr0juElyguD5I5 s.w8Lgr9yLo0HT.SobQejFqv42EQxgJfGYKxMwDl9G56HVh2h6VV9QfKlKJl _.KeuWsLo.fpeICaQ7AbnmNikgIOSJ5rtHRMdirh2EIUVYJqHYj6Fgw2XhWk SzZKAR.fF7MJshz7jWW0MtoZtQOjF9mtdfWYSDdIC4tRQSxrAb3ZJu4HriLp 4MCgrC2R8wdz8zR1XdwXyXVnSKDXTinkfIOda9YrA7j0zaHAlFzs7JjtyVrQ te1g1M1vrXHOo25FSn_D2zXjElILKQm9EC1yVAyXKRtLENdEsSd8n43mztex T2.HbWg07GdBTFEU02RbsHKKW6xQ_yg-- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,DQpIQSBIQSEgUXVpdGUgcmlnaHQsIEVtaWxlISBJJ3ZlIGJlZW4gYW4gZWRpdG9yIGJ5IHRyYWRlIHNpbmNlIDE5ODYsIGFuZCBJJ3ZlIHNlZW4gdGhhdCBzb3J0IG9mIHRoaW5nIGhhcHBlbiBtb3JlIHRpbWVzIHRoYXQgSSBjYW4gY291bnQuIFdoYXRldmVyIG5hbWUgeW91IHdpc2ggdG8gY2FsbCBtZSwgSSByZW1haW4gZ3JhdGVmdWwgZm9yIHRoZSBpbnZpdGF0aW9uIHRvIHBsYXksIGFuZCBJIHdpbGwgbWFrZSB5b3UgcHJvdWQuDQpZb3VyIHBhbCwNClRpbQ0KDQoNCi0tLSBPbiBGcmksIDMvOC8xMywgRW0BMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.8.135.514 Message-ID: <1362775584.7337.YahooMailClassic@web84503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 12:46:24 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Mungenast Subject: Re: Doctor T at Outpost 186 this weekend To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-861880492-396054727-1362775584=:7337" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120488 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 20:46:25 +0000 (UTC) ---861880492-396054727-1362775584=:7337 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HA HA! Quite right, Emile! I've been an editor by trade since 1986, and I'v= e seen that sort of thing happen more times that I can count. Whatever name= you wish to call me, I remain grateful for the invitation to play, and I w= ill make you proud. Your pal, Tim --- On Fri, 3/8/13, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) w= rote: From: Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) Subject: Re: Doctor T at Outpost 186 this weekend To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Friday, March 8, 2013, 3:32 PM Sorry Tim. What with Copy and paste,the lifespan of a typo can be very long= . >Emile, could you please note that my name is, in fact, *Tim*=20 >Mungenast? Thanks! > >Tim Mungenast >Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast >Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast > >--- On Fri, 3/8/13, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)=20 > wrote: > > >From: Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) >Subject: Doctor T at Outpost 186 this weekend >To: DrTVideo@egroups.com >Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com,=20 >iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com,=20 >atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, "Experimental Film Discussion List"=20 > >Date: Friday, March 8, 2013, 12:41 PM > >Hi folks, > >2 exciting events this weekend=A0 at outpost 186 > >March 9 at 8:30 PM=A0 brings Visual Music Live to Outpost 186, with=20 >old friend and very special guest David Rothenberg > >Doctor T video mixing > >featuring guest artist > >David Rothenberg -- Nature Samples, Laptop, and Clarinet > >and regular collaborators > >Eric Crawley -- harpejji and Electronics >Tom Mungenast -- Electric Guitar, Electric Sitar, and Electronics > >ECM recording artist David Rothenberg has performed and recorded on=20 >clarinet with Jan Bang, Scanner, Glen Velez, Karl Berger, Peter=20 >Gabriel, Ray Phiri, and the Karnataka College of Percussion.=A0 He has=20 >twelve CDs out under his own name, including "On the Cliffs of the=20 >Heart," named one of the top ten releases of 1995 by Jazziz magazine=20 >and "One Dark Night I Left My Silent House,"=A0 a duet album with=20 >pianist Marilyn Crispell, called "une petite miracle" by Le Monde=20 >and named by The Village Voice one of the ten best CDs of 2010.=20 >Rothenberg is the author of Why Birds Sing, book and CD, published=20 >in seven languages and the subject of a BBC television documentary.=20 >He is also the author of numerous other books on music, art, and=20 >nature, including Thousand Mile Song, about making music with=20 >whales, and Survival of the Beautiful, about aesthetics in=20 >evolution.=A0 Last spring he released a book and CD called Bug Music,=20 >featuring the sounds of the entomological world.=A0 You'll hear some=20 >of them tonight. > ><http://www.zeitgeist-outpost.org>http://www.zeitgeist-outpost.org > >March 10 8 PM=A0=A0=A0is a rescheduled Visual Music Live event at Outpost= =20 >186 in Cambridge, featuring The OUTPOST Band >Doctor T -- Video mixing >Eric Zinman --Drums >Andrea Pensado -- Electronics and voice >Michael Bloom=A0 -- Table Guitar and bouzouki >Rick Scott -- Keyboard > >Improvisation to the outer limits. Expect the unexpected-:) > >-- "I rang a silent bell ..."=A0 -- Robert Hunter >"... cast your dancing spell my way, I promise to go under it" -- Bob Dyla= n > >My photography can be viewed at=20 >= http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ --=20 -- Emile If you can walk, you can surely DANCE My photography can be viewed at=20 http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld ---861880492-396054727-1362775584=:7337 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

HA HA! Quite right, Emile! I've been an e= ditor by trade since 1986, and I've seen that sort of thing happen more tim= es that I can count. Whatever name you wish to call me, I remain grateful f= or the invitation to play, and I will make you proud.
Your pal,
Tim

--- On Fri, 3/8/13, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) <emile= @foryourhead.com> wrote:

From: E= mile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) <emile@foryourhead.com>
Subject: Re: = Doctor T at Outpost 186 this weekend
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight= .com
Date: Friday, March 8, 2013, 3:32 PM

Sorry Tim. What with Copy and paste,the lifespan of a typo can be very lo= ng.


>Emile, could you please note that my name is, in fact, *= Tim*
>Mungenast? Thanks!
>
>Tim Mungenast
>Editor/Writ= er/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast
>Guitarist/Composer/= Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast
>
>--- On Fri, 3/8/= 13, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)
><emile@foryou= rhead.com> wrote:
>
>
>From: Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.= a Dr. T) <emile@foryourhead.com>
>Subject:= Doctor T at Outpost 186 this weekend
>To: DrTVideo@eg= roups.com
>Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com,
>iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com,
&g= t;atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, "Experimenta= l Film Discussion List"
><fram= eworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>
>Date: Friday, March 8, 2013, 12:4= 1 PM
>
>Hi folks,
>
>2 exciting events this weekend=   at outpost 186
>
>March 9 at 8:30 PM  brings Visual= Music Live to Outpost 186, with
>old friend and very special guest = David Rothenberg
>
>Doctor T video mixing
>
>featuring g= uest artist
>
>David Rothenberg -- Nature Samples, Laptop, and = Clarinet
>
>and regular collaborators
>
>Eric Crawl= ey -- harpejji and Electronics
>Tom Mungenast -- Electric Guitar, Ele= ctric Sitar, and Electronics
>
>ECM recording artist David Roth= enberg has performed and recorded on
>clarinet with Jan Bang, Scanne= r, Glen Velez, Karl Berger, Peter
>Gabriel, Ray Phiri, and the Karna= taka College of Percussion.  He has
>twelve CDs out under his o= wn name, including "On the Cliffs of the
>Heart," named one of the t= op ten releases of 1995 by Jazziz magazine
>and "One Dark Night I Le= ft My Silent House,"  a duet album with
>pianist Marilyn Crispe= ll, called "une petite miracle" by Le Monde
>and named by The Villag= e Voice one of the ten best CDs of 2010.
>Rothenberg is the author of Why Birds Sing, book and CD, published
>in seven language= s and the subject of a BBC television documentary.
>He is also the a= uthor of numerous other books on music, art, and
>nature, including = Thousand Mile Song, about making music with
>whales, and Survival of= the Beautiful, about aesthetics in
>evolution.  Last spring he= released a book and CD called Bug Music,
>featuring the sounds of t= he entomological world.  You'll hear some
>of them tonight.
= >
><<http://www.zeitgeist-outpost.org>http://www.zeitgeist-outpost.org>= ;<http://= www.zeitgeist-outpost.org>http://www.zeitgeist-outpost.org
>
>Ma= rch 10 8 PM   is a rescheduled Visual Music Live event at Outpost >186 in Cambridge, featuring The OUTPOST Band
>Doctor T -- Video= mixing
>Eric Zinman --Drums
>Andrea Pensado -- Electronics and= voice
>Michael Bloom  -- Table Guitar and bouzouki
>Rick = Scott -- Keyboard
>
>Improvisation to the outer limits. Expect = the unexpected-:)
>
>-- "I rang a silent bell ..."  -- Rob= ert Hunter
>"... cast your dancing spell my way, I promise to go unde= r it" -- Bob Dylan
>
>My photography can be viewed at
>&= lt;http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/co= llections/72157603627170351/>http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72= 157603627170351/


--
-- Emile

If you can walk, you= can surely DANCE

My photography can be viewed at
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/7215760= 3627170351/

My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld<= br>


---861880492-396054727-1362775584=:7337-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 8 22:08:06 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4059B1834D1; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 22:08:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <513A613E.4070800@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 17:07:58 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130216 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #831 for March 7, 2013. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120489 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 22:08:06 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2013/130307.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #831 March 7, 2013. WDIY Playlist: http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels?playlist_date=03-07-2013 RECAP: On this show, I began a month-long focus on Steve Roach. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Soul Tones" on Timeroom Editions. http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2013/focus.html#mar PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Paul Lawler Creation Concept OPUS (Paul Lawler Music) Arttek Obscured By Clowns Hatchlings (none) Chronotope Project Chrysalis hrysalis (Relaxed Machinery) Paul Harryn 2nd Movement:Spring Changing Seasons (none) Mythos Mythosiaka Surround Sound Evolution (Sireena) Steve Roach Soul Tones Soul Tones (Timeroom Editions) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Steve Roach Soul Tones ** Soul Tones (Timeroom Editions) Steve Roach Resolved Soul Tones (Timeroom Editions) 1:00 am * = excerpt ** = continued VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Steve Roach. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Sigh of Ages" on Projekt Records. WDIY Announcement: http://wdiy.org/post/next-galactic-travels-2013-03-14 Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST/GMT-5 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 9 01:39:30 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DEC601834CE; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 01:39:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <513A92CE.4030308@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 20:39:26 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130216 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen to Thought Radio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4MO1G.A._HG.SLpORB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120490 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 01:39:30 +0000 (UTC) THOUGHT RADIO: http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio My next stint on Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show, will be Saturday, March 9 at 6 am EST/GMT-5. In Phase One, I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs. I host the show about every other week. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 9 12:56:10 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 892091834D4; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 12:56:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 620499.86350.bm@omp1056.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1362833769; bh=igY6Vza143R6yJdDhqO0LvdudZWG0q6vwAcutMwB+U0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jQklTeVt7yKsf5wBRlIjX2JcMZe6M0ECOMj5TEf5/mIrGB2B/sHfVDFRuaOyB54wp0YdK5FSP48PetVsoZBeDWNb962nz1WaIKhyGaE3aBuV8SvFM6i0qWDcz9euSdwI/Nd7ZkF4n7I3FQ5/TQgTRgvTOi6wQl1e7Lx0qHGDGik= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZwsXWuCLrFLT/lRKHJOBmRypFXRc1UcJ6G6WVf/MflvbmA1gMOZFCyQab5ihm+8X4hD3y0iA1iIEHekdKCYvPtUj1YDJUpLUk4PlDY00hwWWiZtG30JOQ7Ow3+NzSs1n0RzGBUdVDkdUoWpNSpqydGD4t7xMRhAmyP9ItCu1aQ4=; X-YMail-OSG: V04bzHwVM1mxl2kvO9oM62dy.MPKrVy9yVwHB_bVZwOeJXm FOdoVbqb48F9HwKdZ0ois..wUTYSfc2fAqdY_dNMiNjYNv1XeH.v.PwWeMeO TNI5aCShhXsRe5yIayDoMPX3wxvICKhDp98OHq1_Z.FM9.mHtAEA6A_xMzln JtlsKwTsH.OpYNtCHIm_kzFsBSvqdCKhkv44b6titlwFP_1KhIWn4ssUC21_ fHA76BFYJ6f38Pm1E9ytP2EIM5CBeyqXgewpwFGCT_FH3nIaiuvYmc4C445N hcz0Qohgp3bkOnPeqy2OnnM3flzhOCtN935rteJhPknEUbtTOX5gms97cfEm fK5iYrZA_MdxRJ1qr.PRTybtxmklvc2zKvVJ1JN.hirtExUM5fCZLn4I53qP K2iwa43IKhhWX61RLeBEHdsBC7heqMhvRGwu8lTElnpVwx6QkzVCbmoQx0tE kZPDD6gX7d_0olP_mzEJxGpA34t84C_J114vADcNh06DngY2.XlpXmw4fP3Y X9X8dhgdWq12flk0ivRYE6dJ8FJNI.IuJ1Eno.NcWq7x0UwfPxKiQdT_n8LP 4Arl2PhQmsnu20h.AyfAFerZkEmCwo1nNT7jaS3nlWYc- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,SXZlIGdvbmUgbW9ubyBhbmQgd29udCBiZSBuZWVkaW5nIDIgYW55bW9yZQpNeSBFRFAgaW4gaW4gZ3JlYXQgY29uZGl0aW9uLGl0IGhhcyBiZWNvbWUgYSBjbGFzc2ljIG5vdyBhbmQgZXZlcnlib2R5IGtub3dzIHRoZXJlIGlzIG5vdGhpbmcgbGlrZSBpdCxzdGlsbCB0aGUgbW9zdCBhZHZhbmNlZCBsb29wZXIgc3RpbGwgb3V0IHRoZXJlIQpsZXQgbWUga25vdyBpZiB5b3UgYXJlIGludGVyZXN0ZWQgaWxsIHNoaXAgRXVyb3BlIHdpZGUKCkNoZWVycwpMdWlzCgpodHRwOi8vd3d3Lm15c3BhY2UuY29tL2x1aXMBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.135.514 Message-ID: <1362833769.94308.YahooMailNeo@web120704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 04:56:09 -0800 (PST) From: Luis Angulo Reply-To: Luis Angulo Subject: Gibson Black Echoplex Digital Pro Plus for sale in Europe To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="1167350687-754355829-1362833769=:94308" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120491 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 12:56:10 +0000 (UTC) --1167350687-754355829-1362833769=:94308 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ive gone mono and wont be needing 2 anymore=0AMy EDP in in great condition,= it has become a classic now and everybody knows there is nothing like it,st= ill the most advanced looper still out there!=0Alet me know if you are inte= rested ill ship Europe wide=0A=0ACheers=0ALuis=0A=0Ahttp://www.myspace.com/= luisangulocom --1167350687-754355829-1362833769=:94308 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ive gone m= ono and wont be needing 2 anymore
My EDP in in great= condition,it has become a classic now and everybody knows there is nothing= like it,still the most advanced looper still out there!
<= span>let me know if you are interested ill ship Europe wide
Cheers
Luis
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--1167350687-754355829-1362833769=:94308-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 9 20:36:26 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1AE521834D5; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 20:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: Buzap To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Ditto Looper in-depth review Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 21:36:24 +0100 (CET) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal In-Reply-To: <513A3E7A.4000106@tiscali.co.uk> References: , <513A3E7A.4000106@tiscali.co.uk> X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:pM2/7D4PdHZMP34UcGSnmHN0yNvqXc5xspdFR0S6IWM 4j6sJ26VVJ1bzqLvkhPBHg3ESdAl6CxALHr+npjZKPl9NS0AET nR2YTXhGVgG0K9ZpmXbz3kUPBZj1MkjYU84JkIYLlhA/143FDh IgAuR+QpKcMmKkY/9Go+ESZKRJhoUj9ul9TrlZdEEfQ9XAgJbY Soj8jz5Dj7armJ6sLN833+D5rY1RcW1oHwNcsKx9WQtnZX5Dta NwOAFMh9AH0GG8risCEjNQyQLbQaONansRNIiaqc7EcMbvCmoy oEkr/Q= Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120492 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 20:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Andy. Still, no responses. I might have overwhelmed the LD community= , or nobody is possibly interested... ;-) Anyway: 1.)Undo/Redo is triggere= d by longpress foot down. Still, it's longpress-duration is somewhat shorte= r than on the RC-2 and it is rather well controllable. But this could be ac= tually also something that could be optimized via USB-update. 2.)I haven't = tested this 100%, but it seems to be straight in-your-face-overdub without = any loop-feedback control (unless it would be very subtle). You can also a= dd these comments to your review page, btw. best regards Buzap > Gesende= t: Freitag, 08. M=C3=A4rz 2013 um 20:39 Uhr > Von: "andy butler" > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Betreff: Re: Dit= to Looper in-depth review > > Hi Buzap, > > fantastic review! > > Any chanc= e you can answer 2 more points? > > > 1) Undo/Redo. when exactly do those f= unctions occur? After the switch has been > held a while? or on it's re= lease? The second option being the preferred. > > 2) During overdub, is f= eedback dropped a little bit to allow you to just keep on > overdubbing = without too much fear of overload? ( easy to check with a short loop) > > a= ndy > > > Buzap wrote: > > Hi folks > > > > I've just received my new TC El= ectronic Ditto Looper yesterday. Here is my review. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 9 20:57:57 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FFE81834D3; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 20:57:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: Buzap To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: Harmonica (midi harmonica) Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 21:57:56 +0100 (CET) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <410D4E86-B613-4FCA-8C22-6F04F5BB1AAC@gmail.com> <5139E7D1.3050907@googlemail.com> , X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:2FLAjte317UrohyabUXuqzOs37YoFUvNuLLomY0BL6P FiM3unirOsUrm/WkODOgzdWlwFSVIxW0UJ3j7rP3DpLZzUhpyw NGpZig7tZmTub2Md5BsqwmH+lX8c8m6+BVKPeSJtbCmVZVir7w qR6kPZpKQRhv5OuZvo2yVALbQl/SqfyZE9BkiCaosLKEmDe5BV kOuPRSRfie9O+sU/WecNeAMvtADYJJC76HY5w9o/bHRMeGa+N5 M3nBub4lerNQyURzqX0NxmUzgQsy8bjcyoPN+BLMN6pDsormlu p5Og5E= Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120493 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 20:57:57 +0000 (UTC)
I'm sure that there are plenty of people who would drool over = a MIDI harmonica...

A= s a harmonica player, it's really frustrating to experience over and ov= er again how this instrument is underrated.
Yes, everyone ca= n grab a harmonica and sound a bit like Bob Dylan. But I know several profe= ssional players who are incredible musicians yet suffered humiliation as ha= rp players, including i.e. their kid coming home from school crying (when t= hey told their father was playing harp for a living)...
And = yet, when performing it's always the same: People first look at you wit= h a belittling smile - then they are amazed what's possible musically..= .

The "Millioniser 2000" midi harm= onica, btw, was a very respectable achievement. I believe it was one of the= very first breath-controlled midi instruments at all.
A guy= who used to own one told me that he was once hired for a gig as a horn pla= yer. He didn't play horn, but taped the Millioniser to the horn and del= ivered a convincing performance via midi.

be= st regards
Buzap


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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 9 22:11:38 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C3B1E1834D4; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 22:11:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:x-originating-ip:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=AJJMMakNsaQk63YYzxAv1HYid795tkAJTg2lzJn3YT8=; b=KMFnG9b/ULiVZzQ3AusDwzIOb/411nQtSuEtCh7tX7dV1D4ZG/oTFWKX1xVOdc7LGP /zDb9tufnUOSBlIkBgU0RmASID5BhT3qtM4umAAHU1U1grLv+JoSS1TjVKHd/kAoc/CA 8UTj2Sk7NQrADrnxKBU1JeghRx6n9cQ+kHhF8A5jlN+XGDXCiJn5iRj0MjG6EN8fadec pY/u4/nDM4sE68i5Zvglucc3kJbknLZh51s/gJN6G8GXmyW2wus3qUvTZjJ7FGpCSk40 tHjnU0S2Mv0apWKDsbOTEDzrDA+meX/uq5XSeJ2/3LMFHy6W0ttzhde/UelHknKk+6Rs g2TQ== X-Received: by 10.180.94.69 with SMTP id da5mr5116319wib.30.1362867097645; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 14:11:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [74.95.193.205] From: Amy Lee Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 14:10:57 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: MC Xander "Sick of the Lies" To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0442694a3b503f04d78539aa X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm7t+cahBlC7IXP/7jIPIB3Q8CGEkxlfW4YydRxqWJD3Be2BgYNNfnjZb4pdW1N1fOJCk+b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120494 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 22:11:38 +0000 (UTC) --f46d0442694a3b503f04d78539aa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Following links this afternoon I chanced across this: http://youtu.be/gGWaKvllVVw MC Xander weaves a really amazingly complex live-looped beat-boxed song. He has a really versatile approach that creates these amazing background vocal washes, gated mouth percussion, thick bass, and still leaves enough space for his singing. More videos and music on his website: http://mcxander.com Amy / ANI --f46d0442694a3b503f04d78539aa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --20cf307d05405c270304d7a78383-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 11 15:10:29 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F54C1834DC; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:10:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: Buzap To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Harmonica (harmonica players worth listening) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:10:28 +0100 (CET) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal In-Reply-To: <1362990550.7990.YahooMailClassic@web125203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1362990550.7990.YahooMailClassic@web125203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:0KE/+j5fRNEjl0Bh64vRT6beSZDFOmqUBsyiXAKzhwU x+HOWRYifeg92w4DCF6rU8QCoZLVtK8SWxBGkMp2ntBg6R3ssa TqMHOJrL1N0t0jgzm9IMyC9SO2MZ88auHpGXyeWafJpLwYwKha 3ihT5s66inDnANSjnJ/NTRrPpixqQc7dhckt/SF8Dye9GSGxLK 8KBfcBNrzVOrgIKArGBwqS3keWME/oabiNbDNTxuDsBLAcmJ9W iACld//mkQYXXVckZj56n61ldXcPZxRli2JJ1yKCFFb142szJP CbG3r8= Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120520 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:10:29 +0000 (UTC) Hi Kyle thanks :) Bends need endless practice ;-) You can start with hole2/= 3 bends and start to control them as fine as possible. Then you can move up= to blow bends and overblows. I can also recommend Howard Levy's platform f= or online tutorial, it's really great: http://artistworks.com/harmonica-les= sons-howard-levy best regards Buzap Von:=C2=A0"K D Patten" nice stuff man...i envy your ability to bend on the hi end..I'm kind= of stuck in the 1-4-5 blues thing with harp right now ----- I'm really so= rry. But I've been so frustrated in the past. Because I rather play stuff l= ike this on the harp: https://soundcloud.com/buzap/orientalharp[https://sou= ndcloud.com/buzap/orientalharp] And I'm usually confronted by very rigid ex= pectations what a harp player is "supposed" to play/sound like. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 11 16:54:08 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A11231834D4; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:54:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 839234178/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.30.50/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.30.50 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMBAMgLPlFYbR4y/2dsb2JhbAANNsRggXODHQEBAQMBOEAGCwsYCRYPCQMCAQIBRRwBiAmqI5MwjUyBSRaDKgOQX4tdjhg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,825,1355097600"; d="scan'208";a="839234178" Message-ID: <513E0C37.2020202@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:54:15 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electro-harmonic Superego References: <1362916368.88212.androidMobile@web161403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51313AD6-5460-49C9-9FCA-89FE80FF490A@teddyjam.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120521 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:54:08 +0000 (UTC) Sylvain Poitras wrote: > How does the switch compare to the one on the freeze? I reckon that's luck of the draw. I got the EH KillSwitch and had to replace the switch with a nice one right away. The switch on my SuperEgo is really good, no click at all, but I have a replacement ready in case of failure. EH have to cut costs somewhere, and the foot-switches generally aren't that great. I keep a stock of spares. mark francombe wrote: > Seems like theres some kind of Auto function? Indeed there is. Switch into auto-mode, and you have 4 controls 1) Speed. Functions like the decay time. Go from "Bad gated reverb" and "Bad Room Verb" through to 100% sustain. 2) Gliss. Kind of a portamento between notes. Works for single notes, and does some kind of a morph between chords, the in between values not really being recognisable notes as such. 3) Dry Vol 4) Effects Vol if you find a sound you like you can hold the switch down to sustain it forever(although any gliss/morph will still complete. If while holding you flip the switch to latch mode then you can release the footswitch without losing the sound. Auto mode will latch onto any clearly played note, but won't follow legato playing. Tapping the strings will usually produce silence. I found that my usual damping technique produced enough of a transient to cause a re-trigger, and hence silence...but modifying technique to avoid that was possible. So far, I actually had more fun with latching mode, where once you've trapped a sound using the footswitch it will keep going without any contact with the pedal. Just getting a chord going, then playing around with post treatments. Partly that's because the basic sound of the S-E isn't actually that nice, especially on chords, it does shift around in an interesting way but it's tone is kind of halfway between a harmoniser and a cheap reverb. Paul Richards wrote: > One thing > I noticed off the bat was that bass-ier sounds tended to distort I didn't find this at all. (used it with bass, and guitars both humbucking(loud) and single coil(v.bassy). Wouldn't say that the captured sounds are clean though. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 11 19:08:23 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E6CAC1834D5; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:08:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 385 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:08:23 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=helpwantedproductions.com; h=message-id:date:subject:from:to:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding; s=helpwantedproductions.com; bh=njYkq O9OA++MAPXIcJhbq/EJ0sU=; b=TDJ1mfn+jfl6hvrSuHIiULXy90v6EXcIdFWlX GNC+icb27q3uQV87PQz6go3rLQsYKRM9lqCkG9t4r+x8GEs4dFz8aASr3axEUREC SvcOZfK5zcC8ultE28eICIBNZtnoPs7h3tY8zdiOTNTq2vp/1f0LaSX8xpp+xdu7 DmW4zc= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 12:01:54 -0700 Subject: FS; Boss PC2 Percussion Synth - As new in Box From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: "Loopers Delight" , "AH" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120522 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:08:23 +0000 (UTC) FS: Boss PC2 Percussion synth - $225. Pics info, etc http://daedsound.com/Salez/FS.htm Perfect condition closet find. (seriously It was in my closet and I'm the 2nd owner, hardly, if ever turned on or used). In box with all case candy including original manual, boss stickers, and ads from the time. I have three and so I'm selling my best one. Little multicolored stompbox sized monster. Pinging, buzzing, analog percussive goodness with built in switchable two wave tone generator, decay, LFO and modulation settings, etc. Can be triggered by hitting it o= r via 1/4" input to sync to beats, drum machine, midi converter, etc. $225 FIRM as it is a very fair price for this especially in this condition, they are amazing little boxes. Video demo (not mine) here of some ideas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DtHc08BGGDGU Located in Phila PA. I accept paypal personal, paypal regular (you pay fees), or USPS MO. Will ship anywhere. Thanks for looking. --------------------------------------- NEW DAED SITE!! - Http://DaedSound.com DAED: Circuit Bent and Unusual Sound Devices "Making Something Extraordinary from the Ordinary" Music and Downloads at the New Online Site: http://davidtalento.bandcamp.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 11 20:53:55 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35A7C1834D5; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 20:53:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <513E445E.5020405@soundscapes.us> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:53:50 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130216 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Thought Radio Playlist for March 9, 2013. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120523 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 20:53:55 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2013/130309.html The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EST/GMT-5 on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. http://soundscapes.us/afterglow/index.html Show #244 March 9, 2013. Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Dirk Serries and AC The Sleep of Reason Jon Atwood (Tonefloat) VA [Alquimia] Water Beings Sequences No. 22 VA [Pyramid Peak] Starwaves Sequences No. 22 Under the Dome The Aeon's Day The Demon Haunter World (Neu Harmony) Andy Pickford Hellsgate Remasters Complete Sets 1 - 3 Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Timothy Wenzel Apparition A Coalescence of Dreams (none) Timothy Wenzel Oasis of Souls A Coalescence of Dreams (none) Ludovico Einaudi Run In a Time Lapse (Ponderosa) Ashik The Dance of Leela Gypsy Heart (New Earth) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Paul Lawler Post Apocalyptic OPUS (Paul Lawler Music) Rodeo Pravda Fall Across the Sky The Clarity of Chaos (none) Cornucopia Day of a Full Horn (Repertoire) Daydreambeliever Stick Men On/Off Deep (7d Media) Alan Morse Cold Fusion * Four O'clock and Hysteria (InsideOut) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill Fox ======================================================================== Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EST/GMT-5. Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music. Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Website - http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 12 02:56:36 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE6F51834D7; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 02:56:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 526691.11586.bm@omp1037.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1363056995; bh=J3jmNHNQLEh+7d/D/iaid2WkXj2qMjjT1z+aXJnkwMk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fnLtUgXglqt9HL2VIe+S2g56hUZrJot/TnJOsHoqske81mYwL1b7CJ3JWBlik/teYavfa2hDRDw0692EmPzBbmhjQqRQK4a27qQ1gfet2LQrYJVTtsdJH7pXuwH1kg6ZI9uJyw0vSxu/nN+kQGhgOAbssQ6M8fy4I+8zeZk6UkI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zuebTndDFsQnVXMmLsq+7iJWX0sjD/4bVKyPLVlg2TfQx6f4GJm21Sq+YJ5udRy3VjClxoclx3EZKTazok5b7uLS8nerU0eS4VcW+rVIkDCHMDXIEPZvxEjZ4jB2RcTkNmQZyHpiFCkv1LFwiTd/mNRAH+HZdNtKMJbhseXwQ3g=; X-YMail-OSG: 1BCtTXEVM1mH5OfvE.tKuqfp_ejloalU8G2l0eb9oXuxSDM r6YjDxKleD1q1UZdicfK1.NkI4eJA.jyV9yxmDo0_rBlbSYR.bbohfv9mwJf LtMRmJgv8JZDnXhGb226LelPVR3OVAcMgSJbrLJJ7OLXaoNVUlqLtsFNZ_rF EjA9SSwZFyAhc_6DmrPmsnVkUjVPyVSoSJGLiLXSoLV3pGRYnB58SPF5TUzt BgmpQoXd4Q_jLK3HdCZ2X.Jv6_N3Ti22.nwYmj3BapGyVsOsu7Y._2crgeKQ ui7BXkw89SZ6gmlA6DFZoAcR0QfS14dQGY9mfp_aLLTr80CFzKjhkFBvEXZa miRhXm2vwvKjwd6zLLVlOwvPiTVROg3cBEM8_tbZGN2vTsWGZKz.2re8xxYR VPS89vcyHZJVJO8bJWDgDpMBIX2NhzO83Mq2ptBwjMom4ofOkOI6C_YVyQtE KUPIX_BEMyA6MMFKUNtEEyKXUsBXQALGiLk7yEe0cFWZBsLUgYeUHhhaBTW5 TWfMyJFftqxBt.wDKwMBlhytHxXStIHRSqDhKBGfb0xWTPu43Cdi1EQceq8V zvYVyUVVly8f5NZthpA8_ZDTHCLav4jhJlQIm5dWIg.MQ4sPEEKPcKWby.LD DxLdhnPnVr8.nW0f7Co9HvteR7QzifRycU6mMNw-- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,ZG9udCBrbm93IGlmIGl0IGhhcyBiZWVuIG1lbnRpb25lZAppbSBpbXByZXNzZWQgdGhvdWdoIQoKaHR0cDovL3d3dy55b3V0dWJlLmNvbS93YXRjaD92PXF3WUEwQlFsenY4CgrCoApodHRwOi8vd3d3Lm15c3BhY2UuY29tL2x1aXNhbmd1bG9jb20BMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.137.519 Message-ID: <1363056995.38413.YahooMailNeo@web120704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:56:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Luis Angulo Reply-To: Luis Angulo Subject: Infinity looper To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="1167350687-1099435329-1363056995=:38413" Resent-Message-ID: <66T1J.A.AwD.klpPRB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120524 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 02:56:36 +0000 (UTC) --1167350687-1099435329-1363056995=:38413 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable dont know if it has been mentioned=0Aim impressed though!=0A=0Ahttp://www.y= outube.com/watch?v=3DqwYA0BQlzv8=0A=0A=A0=0Ahttp://www.myspace.com/luisangu= locom --1167350687-1099435329-1363056995=:38413 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--1167350687-1099435329-1363056995=:38413-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 12 03:05:24 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A83961834D3; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 03:05:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <513E9B72.4080303@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 20:05:22 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: andy butler , "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Re: Electro-harmonic Superego References: <513E0C37.2020202@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <513E0C37.2020202@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120525 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 03:05:24 +0000 (UTC) What, out of curiosity are the part numbers for your replacement switched, Andy. I , too, find the switches on the Freeze to be really loud, but I still like that pedal a lot (though I'm saving up for a Super Ego, too). Rick On 3/11/2013 9:54 AM, andy butler wrote: > EH have to cut costs somewhere, and the foot-switches generally aren't > that great. > I keep a stock of spares. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 12 10:01:13 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5ED521834D9; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 10:01:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 845289719/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.29.84/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.29.84 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMBAAf8PlFYbR1U/2dsb2JhbAANNsRggV+DHAEBAQQ4QBELGAkWDwkDAgECAUUcAYgbrCqDMZAqjxQWgyoDkF+LXY4Y X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,829,1355097600"; d="scan'208";a="845289719" Message-ID: <513EFCB9.3000603@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 10:00:25 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electro-harmonic Superego References: <513E0C37.2020202@tiscali.co.uk> <513E9B72.4080303@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <513E9B72.4080303@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120526 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 10:01:13 +0000 (UTC) Sorry, no US part number. Replacement switch for the superEgo is http://www.maplin.co.uk/push-to-make-foot-switch-34489 ...but just checked out the S-E and the EH provided switch looks nicer than their usual ones. I take back what I said about cost cutting in this case, it does seem they upgrade the switch for the SuperEgo. I used that Maplin one on the KillSwitch...but note that it *wasn't* an exact replacement. Killswitch is push to break, replacement is push to make. Now that doesn't matter with the Killswitch, there's a control which reverses the function of the switch, so it still works perfectly (but the legend on the control is reversed). So.. would that switch work on a Freeze...I don't know. Someone out there with a Freeze has to open it up and put a meter across the existing switch. Danger is the Freeze turns into an Un-Freeze. andy Rick Walker wrote: > What, out of curiosity are the part numbers for your replacement > switched, Andy. > > I , too, find the switches on the Freeze to be really loud, but I still > like that pedal a lot > (though I'm saving up for a Super Ego, too). > > Rick > > On 3/11/2013 9:54 AM, andy butler wrote: >> EH have to cut costs somewhere, and the foot-switches generally aren't >> that great. >> I keep a stock of spares. >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 12 10:31:21 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 58E7C1834D1; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 10:31:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 320 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 10:31:21 UTC From: Carsten Wegener Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9-377187132 Subject: Re: OT: Harmonica (harmonica players worth listening) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 11:25:59 +0100 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <410D4E86-B613-4FCA-8C22-6F04F5BB1AAC@gmail.com> <5139E7D1.3050907@googlemail.com> <8CFEBC92F00C857-2214-221AA@webmailstg-d03.sysops.aol.com> <513D182E.6060908@googlemail.com> Message-Id: <2CF572D5-3540-4382-9426-F0A38C1D03F7@tyfoo.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120527 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 10:31:21 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-9-377187132 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi, that=B4s my favourite player,=20 Rachelle Plas, she=B4s got it: = http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xc516o_rachelle-plas-i-ve-got-to-go-tribu= t_music#.UT8CSY4dcy4 Enjoy! Carsten Am 11.03.2013 um 03:00 schrieb Sylvain Poitras: > Guy B=E9langer: http://youtu.be/tFNwCTN4GCI > Sylvain --Apple-Mail-9-377187132 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xc516o_rach= elle-plas-i-ve-got-to-go-tribut_music#.UT8CSY4dcy4
Following links this afternoon I chanced across this:
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MC Xander weaves a really am= azingly complex live-looped beat-boxed song. He has a really versatile appr= oach that creates these amazing background vocal washes, gated mouth percus= sion, thick bass, and still leaves enough space for his singing.

More videos and music on his website:
= --f46d0442694a3b503f04d78539aa-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 10 04:54:58 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B0B31834D9; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 04:54:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tJaXIZqLUkC5HF69j0HSsLstuFnKJechSCKi41yD6lU=; b=oYefld7+lZnykxpY8RZLumRxEBaUrvzTi03C0u5s9j36KCOyz4NY+K7ajgUcmH9lm0 Sn7pocsiQ8BQMp3tRB/hrOt8JqvrHI/95p0aqA+y/3edDMWAgygzt+PJnOSnhS+AnZUu ozUK9L08BRtCBczQwM5pORIy/UWsSMUXmKa3JFgvrePNPXKlKGrtdsevMeG0ZQ2IKdJj 68FnkyxWuqFAPy3VHSeC79pJnxyJCQlIc9wjfuoAmrilOEFO8U3vip+S1GzUoo7xC+GD hTvBp6qPn0GXiI0F7KU1o3IEYcsKysSiX7osgFldYD8OgbGROMrS9Q72MwZj191bPPAA 9SiA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.14.183.198 with SMTP id q46mr22622605eem.1.1362891296813; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 20:54:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 23:54:56 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: MC Xander "Sick of the Lies" From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3441429d61e804d78adbe6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120495 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 04:54:58 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b3441429d61e804d78adbe6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Amy thanks for posting. I thought his transitions are interesting in terms of the break in the looped opening beat and introduction of voices. Jim On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Amy Lee wrote: > Following links this afternoon I chanced across this: > > http://youtu.be/gGWaKvllVVw > > MC Xander weaves a really amazingly complex live-looped beat-boxed song. > He has a really versatile approach that creates these amazing background > vocal washes, gated mouth percussion, thick bass, and still leaves enough > space for his singing. > > More videos and music on his website: > http://mcxander.com > > Amy / ANI > > --=20 --=20 *jimgoodin.com* - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive minimalism' *The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music* - 'Organically inspired New Music' *From Brooklyn To Glindran *, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from this CD will benefit *JDRF International * *Tips Across the Waters *, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware. --047d7b3441429d61e804d78adbe6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Amy thanks for posting. I thought his transitions are interesting in terms = of the break in the looped opening beat and introduction of voices.
Jim

On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 5:= 10 PM, Amy Lee <amy@jumpingrobot.com> wrote:
Following links this aftern= oon I chanced across this:


MC Xander weaves a really amazingly complex live-= looped beat-boxed song. He has a really versatile approach that creates the= se amazing background vocal washes, gated mouth percussion, thick bass, and= still leaves enough space for his singing.

More videos and music on his website:



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jimgoodin.com= - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive minima= lism'
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The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music=A0- 'Org= anically inspired New Music'
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From Brooklyn To Gl= indran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter = Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF International

Tips Across the Waters, a= new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.
--047d7b3441429d61e804d78adbe6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 10 08:44:32 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB14A1834D5; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 08:44:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 838943350/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.187.58/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.187.58 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMBAGhHPFFV0rs6/2dsb2JhbAANNYgavCaBY4MaAQEBAwEjFUAGCwsYAgIFFgsCAgkDAgECAUUcARCHeahjcZFsgSONchaCF4ETA5w8jhg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,817,1355097600"; d="scan'208";a="838943350" Message-ID: <513C47F8.3010003@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 08:44:40 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Ditto Looper in-depth review References: , <513A3E7A.4000106@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120496 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 08:44:32 +0000 (UTC) Buzap wrote: > Thanks Andy. Still, no responses. I might have overwhelmed the LD community, or nobody is possibly interested... ;-) I'm sure your review will be valued. More people read than comment. > > Anyway: > 1.)Undo/Redo is triggered by longpress foot down. Still, it's longpress-duration is somewhat shorter than on the RC-2 and it is rather well controllable. ok. > But this could be actually also something that could be optimized via USB-update. > 2.)I haven't tested this 100%, but it seems to be straight in-your-face-overdub without any loop-feedback control (unless it would be very subtle). It would be subtle. For instance, the DL4 does this, and it is rarely noticed. > You can also add these comments to your review page, btw. thank you andy > > best regards > Buzap From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 10 08:58:18 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21AFC1834D5; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 08:58:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1362905897; bh=FlZGbPOU/fkyGre57j6KfSvRivk+1mRKk/jSDcFv8C4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:From:X-Priority:In-Reply-To:Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer; b=P4I/fb4iGhCZN2QPemTXMR6JD1Kw/tDTK+8uX4Kqst12SCRg1Uf6P3Scg7MVJPBAsNKKVnBhFgFwBzKnmwwwweXZTy3g/0sLuWz0luOLSfjnP6BhFZhXiFs+MBKzCLgcX6o9gBRk9xR8AtMvW8hUdX1E/12Chh27DbWTTM5ZyjU= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 59222.51724.bm@smtp101.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: nrIcHYsVM1mdL_BZXj1xvtbscj6WAxFurkt9K9tNqvAFx_J dyWCImfc2k06L3JTls2_jlTgORpxX8qxeF6BhDfp3CGSFQoKXl718eUkakrh OQpYqiRzfaO5gjKaiUvvuZGn2BKgChSTzmezZ6tOX0AUP8t9xSvR14vdJMYw Zj7SHFWNB.49XEht9NtvDYQYFxYI5lxoBz1bLsS6sdwTzyLtTUmnaKkH6fc6 JOv30IeDgFAwLassNGK7YsCWV7MRd9yRzGdgRTIYbHr8Z38Uk0qYRuTXJZnR 6zxnVvo8DWtCL8.nCcHDukEcHRAea23tFfIaZDdtCgrqnojykMPzVVjaboQ_ EXPWyuP_gOPmdfzQYkgEL1qO6INi1_wW1R0Hky16tmPGyZi6avpRcR4VJR2M fGWVY3HceTtz_RFWA7zfTkyPREdaZOj660XGAke1GNZwBvsw- X-Yahoo-SMTP: ILs26NSswBDuK82.iJb8TCN7cubm0SmUbZYidhSBIQ-- Subject: Re: Ditto Looper in-depth review Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Laurie Amat X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 00:58:15 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <027429D6-A16B-4107-BCAF-3B4FA0E16299@att.net> References: , <513A3E7A.4000106@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120497 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 08:58:18 +0000 (UTC) Hello Buzap,=20 I'm reading and learning. Thanks for the info! Laurie On Mar 9, 2013, at 12:36 PM, Buzap wrote: > Thanks Andy. Still, no responses. I might have overwhelmed the LD = community, or nobody is possibly interested... ;-) >=20 > Anyway: > 1.)Undo/Redo is triggered by longpress foot down. Still, it's = longpress-duration is somewhat shorter than on the RC-2 and it is rather = well controllable. > But this could be actually also something that could be optimized via = USB-update. > 2.)I haven't tested this 100%, but it seems to be straight = in-your-face-overdub without any loop-feedback control (unless it would = be very subtle). >=20 > You can also add these comments to your review page, btw. >=20 > best regards > Buzap >=20 >=20 >> Gesendet: Freitag, 08. M=E4rz 2013 um 20:39 Uhr >> Von: "andy butler" >> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Betreff: Re: Ditto Looper in-depth review >>=20 >> Hi Buzap, >>=20 >> fantastic review! >>=20 >> Any chance you can answer 2 more points? >>=20 >>=20 >> 1) Undo/Redo. when exactly do those functions occur? After the switch = has been >> held a while? or on it's release? The second option being the = preferred. >>=20 >> 2) During overdub, is feedback dropped a little bit to allow you to = just keep on >> overdubbing without too much fear of overload? ( easy to check with = a short loop) >>=20 >> andy >>=20 >>=20 >> Buzap wrote: >>> Hi folks >>>=20 >>> I've just received my new TC Electronic Ditto Looper yesterday. Here = is my review. >>=20 >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 10 09:13:51 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7CA351834D4; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 09:13:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 835526839/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.187.58/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.187.58 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0CAHdOPFFV0rs6/2dsb2JhbAANNogaiD6zYwQBgWODGgEBAQQjFUARCxgCAgUWCwICCQMCAQIBRRwBBYgWqFdxkWyBI4xWgRwWgheBEwOcPI4Y X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,818,1355097600"; d="scan'208";a="835526839" Message-ID: <513C4ED3.7060008@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 09:13:55 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Ditto Looper in-depth review References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120498 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 09:13:51 +0000 (UTC) Buzap wrote: > Hi folks > > I've just received my new TC Electronic Ditto Looper yesterday. Here is my review. now available here:- http://www.livelooping.org/tools/pedals/t-c-ditto/ thanks again andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 10 11:52:49 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A70421834D7; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 11:52:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 37974.1788.bm@omp1056.mail.bf1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1362916368; bh=KhML9lnjoKcEbDDkp7lkxgTJtBnXpeQy+EVMB96GS/k=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wBpttJa9dIMUC/iWpJVTWdvdG3Fdik5bQ4qSJ8w4p1ZMDB+K2ZK8Vt31OO+yzRAGUZ/wWwV1BLbeP2NvB3zMgPB0hMoWe4eQzvjmwYFT6QLkDK9Sf4c1nm7b4OrkZ/40yk97w2AzwQ6f/V4swOc6PSY5ufWWAP5InA76OJ5+BxE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rpePyBqPU56nXxiHK4j4LVGaMHFWKiaDQ+XT4Qv3y6ony7fqwmlsLq+AvBpKksqA2ypoScq2TuBHZfk1DA1inNX6tAtTaqxto0GX7RUrTnTTbWFKgw9nnwo849Rp3H5bTQTyXHesm1RLuVPRiTGcdSOt+l+PH0IkljuzcD0QkLg=; X-YMail-OSG: _.XqCZ0VM1lHkJV0AOA4R.bxlfEzl6n3Eg29mp.nYIrtyxz kzulT98uZJmRMz9pLw36d8A.ZyplQIj3bKl7yZfriAbyLR3F.3nz4ZCoE4bN q_efaj4tit1hg.cWQg13sMuwotBlbAeu77TbxaSUlWI1s.c1odrEnv5x9Mbr _gKHxl4hAoRielviljbUWJpABYd8tuaLOSu62W1pLQm5bR6Vb8gSlY_cDwJL XSzZrROhWrng0msdaFlXurq23NO0jRwlGB6p1KSlS7r.m9KOvppATnMr0p_a UTwHXH2MR1hjaudp.ElZWnn6KkCY8Pg5ZHiQnbIClNNIHsdce45xogRV0MjE Cbewd7byB_o_SZhGSIca0g4fA5eZvIl4TpjWLF8vfVv0tL2WXS4ggHwpRFPC 6Fwj9nv4zjL_41ajlht2C4XZezEhY6ewn1GGGnqHfruhiffmnreRA1ttJZcc joGHCHBiohC4Nn7M357mzACEDsSSBLVriaLjRAHq4O0C.H_gX1Tk1aLwQXeg TZhs6NQ-- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,CkFyZSB0aGVyZSBhbnkgdXNlcnMgb2YgdGhlc2Ugb3V0IHRoZXJlPyBJIHdhdGNoZWQgYSB2ZXJ5IGltcHJlc3NpdmUgdmlkZW8gb2YgdGhlIFN1cGVyZWdvIG9uIFlvdVR1YmUuIEkgaGFkIGEgc29ydCBvZiBwcmVjdXJzb3Igb2YgdGhlIFN1cGVyZWdvIG9uY2UgKHRoZSBGcmVlemUgcGVkYWwpIGJ1dCBJIEdvdCB2ZXJ5IGJvcmVkIG9mIHRoYXQgcGVkYWwgcmVhbCBmYXN0LgoKVGhlIFN1cGVyZWdvIHBlZGFsIHRob3VnaCwgc2VlbXMgdmVyeSByb2J1c3QuIFBhcnRpY3VsYXJseSB0aGUgR2xpZGUgZmVhdHUBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.135.514 Message-ID: <1362916368.88212.androidMobile@web161403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 04:52:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Electro-harmonic Superego To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" , "akbutler@tiscali.co.uk" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="234730655-81005997-1362916368=:88212" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120499 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 11:52:49 +0000 (UTC) --234730655-81005997-1362916368=:88212 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Are there any users of these out there? I watched a very impressive video of the Superego on YouTube. I had a sort of precursor of the Superego once (the Freeze pedal) but I Got very bored of that pedal real fast. The Superego pedal though, seems very robust. Particularly the Glide feature for creating ambiant textures. Paul Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android --234730655-81005997-1362916368=:88212 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii


Are there any users of these out there? I watched a very impressive video of the Superego on YouTube. I had a sort of precursor of the Superego once (the Freeze pedal) but I Got very bored of that pedal real fast.

The Superego pedal though, seems very robust. Particularly the Glide feature for creating ambiant textures.

Paul

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From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>;
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>;
Subject: Re: Ditto Looper in-depth review
Sent: Sun, Mar 10, 2013 8:44:40 AM

Buzap wrote:
> Thanks Andy. Still, no responses. I might have overwhelmed the LD community, or nobody is possibly interested... ;-)

I'm sure your review will be valued.

More people read than comment.


>
> Anyway:
> 1.)Undo/Redo is triggered by longpress foot down. Still, it's longpress-duration is somewhat shorter than on the RC-2 and it is rather well controllable.

ok.


> But this could be actually also something that could be optimized via USB-update.
> 2.)I haven't tested this 100%, but it seems to be straight in-your-face-overdub without any loop-feedback control (unless it would be very subtle).

It would be subtle.
For instance, the DL4 does this, and it is rarely noticed.




> You can also add these comments to your review page, btw.


thank you

andy

>
> best regards
> Buzap
--234730655-81005997-1362916368=:88212-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 10 12:13:24 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B3941834D7; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:13:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 848606151/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.187.58/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.187.58 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMBABN4PFFV0rs6/2dsb2JhbAANNsQ/gWNtgi0BAQEEOEARCxgJFg8JAwIBAgFFBhYBsGeSXI8Vg0ADnDyOGA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,818,1355097600"; d="scan'208";a="848606151" Message-ID: <513C78EC.4070506@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:13:32 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: Re: Electro-harmonic Superego References: <1362916368.88212.androidMobile@web161403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1362916368.88212.androidMobile@web161403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120500 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:13:23 +0000 (UTC) Sure, been playing with it just recently. What do you need to know? andy Paul Richards wrote: > > Are there any users of these out there? I watched a very impressive > video of the Superego on YouTube. I had a sort of precursor of the > Superego once (the Freeze pedal) but I Got very bored of that pedal real > fast. > > The Superego pedal though, seems very robust. Particularly the Glide > feature for creating ambiant textures. > > Paul > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 10 17:09:40 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BCB2C1834D3; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 17:09:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <410D4E86-B613-4FCA-8C22-6F04F5BB1AAC@gmail.com> <5139E7D1.3050907@googlemail.com> , To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Harmonica (midi harmonica) In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: michael klobuchar X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CFEBC92F0A4DDB_2214_6CCF5_webmailstg-d03.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37547-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CFEBC92F00C857-2214-221AA@webmailstg-d03.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [151.201.9.14] Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 13:09:39 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20121107; t=1362935380; bh=MfCwDEL8P0drzZqOpuIf5fV4I4chUGixddRXMnsSAM0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HOz8l3PEN+mQGJ7u4EfvTY2b+pcsbLnZJiW9nzUeQcsSlRmBSwHW66GkH5M4aThFH A6Jk6d1VIKiGysmWF/VrVLkMbIrp68dJ5wIy+gKgpfGAiTCaaB2GdPgPqH6AeMi+kq h4VGd1HJ+Ib7DlUeue4kM+oDsGepTZuW+/e0OLio= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:287915360:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2908513cbe54672e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120501 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 17:09:40 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CFEBC92F0A4DDB_2214_6CCF5_webmailstg-d03.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" being a lover of both the HARMONICATS and TOOTS THIELMAN, i agree, harmonic= as are super kool!!!!! so keep the faith mr buzzy! =20 =20 =20 ----------MB_8CFEBC92F0A4DDB_2214_6CCF5_webmailstg-d03.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" being a lover of b= oth the HARMONICATS and TOOTS THIELMAN, i agree, harmonicas are super kool!= !!!! so keep the faith mr buzzy!




 ----------MB_8CFEBC92F0A4DDB_2214_6CCF5_webmailstg-d03.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 10 17:12:49 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09BF81834D3; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 17:12:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TrVH+ax08BxrqjUgYRjgIy4x/jVzM3WTo4ZaCCHcvxE=; b=a24DzWMGNkd0FAcAogVszTKwcbAUpQktv2GBp35OYqwR43lNYPPAMcX2wGIt6j6O5q geeAaQHva+xFwxR7vU1dlOMZyKCFzBnFZBKLJw9ObLMdNSAfGDZeZfQf4tKRrpFRxU3D NHA70eodLPgqirT8pr0Q1HAnJjcuO0tigW3Wqbyi5WeJFoJzv+GPUiCsXkNJNSv0a5sz D9mVLMaMMbrPlyGYkoYFHMqsbaJcIftxfGnnS+9R4qJSe9xYw7QWNcKPIvnMJAD2RtrJ kscbpTKO5nRPvdMLxB+qwsAFjoocFbixvXfeW/jGYww23JDW2SagOt/7AvmQGSD5zFUZ a58Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.33.167 with SMTP id s7mr3190391vdi.52.1362935568470; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:12:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8CFEBC92F00C857-2214-221AA@webmailstg-d03.sysops.aol.com> References: <410D4E86-B613-4FCA-8C22-6F04F5BB1AAC@gmail.com> <5139E7D1.3050907@googlemail.com> <8CFEBC92F00C857-2214-221AA@webmailstg-d03.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 18:12:48 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Harmonica (midi harmonica) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120502 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 17:12:49 +0000 (UTC) I too like Toots but Sonny Boy Williamson is my fav. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 6:09 PM, michael klobuchar wrote: > being a lover of both the HARMONICATS and TOOTS THIELMAN, i agree, > harmonicas are super kool!!!!! so keep the faith mr buzzy! > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 10 19:41:23 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5450D1834D5; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 19:41:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: Buzap To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Harmonica (harmonica players worth listening) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 20:41:21 +0100 (CET) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <410D4E86-B613-4FCA-8C22-6F04F5BB1AAC@gmail.com> <5139E7D1.3050907@googlemail.com> <8CFEBC92F00C857-2214-221AA@webmailstg-d03.sysops.aol.com>, X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:E1Bg0ZuRdhbZrVJT/VuYk8QlikkFVhu396peJMKTOJw bDvn+gS5GJrtcHunpeOwcVh/v2pxfjgLu0YiEvN/CYg6oi9jsQ EDCfWWPXOpuXUtiOCdt7UxiG2uyqBLT7aa5Tw8FHpfQYU5b6ub U5K/5BXEVUGzGbg43re9cF65F3uq/RtEUtyxdtw342VKlniBPV 3N0tUmUBzgnDNTT2n6zZDIOjOkPSSMIjBUNx9oep5Krae7b4Ow Hcd8oudFtGKhgPErIB+zY5sa6dZbXaPthMtJYXxRrBcLFQsmh7 rxY1+4= Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120503 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 19:41:23 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks thanks for your encouraging words. While everyone know the big harmonica legends (i.e. Toots, Stevie Wonder, Sonny, possibly Howard Levy), I just want to invite you to check out a few other harmonica players: - Franz Chmel (Austrian chromatic harmonica god plays Paganini): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEevfUAn-80 - Jason Rosenblatt (with his Klezmer band Shtreiml on diatonic): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMfCRCeF9Tc - "Hyper Harp" Jeff Grossberg (Bunny Brunel with Mike Stern etc.; won't believe it's harp!): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkMIYDUqQcM - Brendan Power (here: irish folk on diatonic with Tim Edey): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHfJLhBV1e8 - William Galison (chanson on chromatic, great solo): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71BrbysbP4w - Lee Sankey (straight forward tasteful slow blues): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjvJou8tIXU Enjoy!! Buzap From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 10 19:59:08 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5513E1834D7; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 19:59:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1362945547; bh=bKtQKFu4JzLJfZ0KEmz2EPBJzOYahQ1J9JlF353eC/Q=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:X-Mailer:From:X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid:Subject:Date:To; b=jPGByDHlqwebVr7k8OIV12XB8Eh5RvcrSlFlDKosymTD5Td7UeJBgD7Avw18x0Otw99rkTSTuJIvuTk6juqjp9hjkyWQwMZLFf7p+wzddDh4fJjNDzMj6lAvCINcHVCIeI56mmiIzlBRC1ImUP9QTc/dFX6a0/BzixPk9uth97k= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 22664.65966.bm@smtp111-mob.biz.mail.ird.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: fVCokMkVM1lo7Qbs3FG4EEBZ2qWKK2L4LwBeKCpo.hoPuRQ PYgPisqJD9xBqRkxT1tIxBjTkgnezSgJOEivn5waT6hl5tP3wxO3iOUx5fTJ QffvcKRmS6gYQrrTkI5wmiP3rcZkmzR1cpW6nnQDsrFFXDWPqFGnpBJOO6C9 i2jVWweH27nnkBpW3AkbtN_2EtjlsC3ALLxmuqi_BSoiupvdmchPQZwZZbUt aN985PqT881a9e1n71_ljHxKy9RDaAdAUcI5mC6nUUzwLdNbXAApqBgMLjrg 86H_OfED0S6HVGA1BNAh1AXZJdfq8vfGFr9bYl1S3JrW0kwkT_w_DqDRHfCS Jqv3VfdMOsL1HgpwpRMe9UEr3_c18VYF7GyHZ8uu2k9av1WCKPk_nmpuPqwg WGU0im2kQKPnNgR8n2A_3HLyKapsl8AL1BDX0HNFzDRyG7ayh.4zHBuO8nfO j.wPe.wtcjSCI_XPLO3Na5St7vXTGoAxt4WUwwcw.Qw-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: 7n7qsyGswBCgTbRPvUUz9QEYRfjrM9w1ZUA- References: <410D4E86-B613-4FCA-8C22-6F04F5BB1AAC@gmail.com> <5139E7D1.3050907@googlemail.com> <8CFEBC92F00C857-2214-221AA@webmailstg-d03.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder: Inbox Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8J2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <49F46C0F-6661-40A7-8EC3-8A5D79552DF4@yahoo.fr> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8J2) From: Antony Hequet X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid: 2_0_0_1_3153774_AHYl5C4AAOJTUTzh5QRp5EaKPJM Subject: Re: OT: Harmonica (harmonica players worth listening) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 20:59:01 +0100 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120504 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 19:59:08 +0000 (UTC) Little Walter Antony Hequet Poet composer On 10 mars 2013, at 20:41, Buzap wrote: > Hi folks >=20 > thanks for your encouraging words. > While everyone know the big harmonica legends (i.e. Toots, Stevie Wonder, S= onny, possibly Howard Levy), I just want to invite you to check out a few ot= her harmonica players: >=20 > - Franz Chmel (Austrian chromatic harmonica god plays Paganini): > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DdEevfUAn-80 >=20 > - Jason Rosenblatt (with his Klezmer band Shtreiml on diatonic): > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DAMfCRCeF9Tc >=20 > - "Hyper Harp" Jeff Grossberg (Bunny Brunel with Mike Stern etc.; won't be= lieve it's harp!): > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DYkMIYDUqQcM >=20 > - Brendan Power (here: irish folk on diatonic with Tim Edey): > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjHfJLhBV1e8 >=20 > - William Galison (chanson on chromatic, great solo): > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D71BrbysbP4w >=20 > - Lee Sankey (straight forward tasteful slow blues): > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DIjvJou8tIXU >=20 >=20 > Enjoy!! 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---748019302-1740499465-1362946498=:65189-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 10 21:03:16 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 521661834D0; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 21:03:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: Buzap To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Aw: Re: OT: Harmonica (harmonica players worth listening) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 22:03:14 +0100 (CET) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <410D4E86-B613-4FCA-8C22-6F04F5BB1AAC@gmail.com> <5139E7D1.3050907@googlemail.com> <8CFEBC92F00C857-2214-221AA@webmailstg-d03.sysops.aol.com>, , X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:0gEsGEJIaQ5118LUJirCfcruZS1YXRln/ipjhQGcZQt wJxjGjlpopbl3VndJ6qxI4pMg5gomkcA3zdsChKSj35cOchvXh 0MXeyEoIXhZB1O63TDh+QJToVTHZ80J48+soNTauiNmCBL7Cgl h0HeLvyKGwFqPBU8zekE7OiM4jtym5xBw6KYjEwsjn95PMw7hO OQ0yX0zxoa0Xu+kHlaElhuM+1p5LNiH2avVxKU0tsiYwFNEYRW woQi9orF5YOBqkpxL7oHbJhddWYzYG38VgpEmQocqQtM/KOfGN kQNCs0= Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120506 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 21:03:16 +0000 (UTC) You guys are still talking about music that's hundred years ago (Little Wal= ter, Sugar Blue...). I kind of feel people only know this kind of harmonica= music - and thus have a limited perspective on this instrument. My intenti= on was to broaden the perspective - by offering the links below. best regar= ds Buzap > Gesendet: Sonntag, 10. M=C3=A4rz 2013 um 20:41 Uhr > Von: Buzap= > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Betreff: Re: O= T: Harmonica (harmonica players worth listening) > > Hi folks > > thanks fo= r your encouraging words. > While everyone know the big harmonica legends (= i.e. Toots, Stevie Wonder, Sonny, possibly Howard Levy), I just want to inv= ite you to check out a few other harmonica players: > > - Franz Chmel (Aust= rian chromatic harmonica god plays Paganini): > http://www.youtube.com/watc= h?v=3DdEevfUAn-80 > > - Jason Rosenblatt (with his Klezmer band Shtreiml on= diatonic): > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DAMfCRCeF9Tc > > - "Hyper Har= p" Jeff Grossberg (Bunny Brunel with Mike Stern etc.; won't believe it's ha= rp!): > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DYkMIYDUqQcM > > - Brendan Power (h= ere: irish folk on diatonic with Tim Edey): > http://www.youtube.com/watch?= v=3DjHfJLhBV1e8 > > - William Galison (chanson on chromatic, great solo): >= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D71BrbysbP4w > > - Lee Sankey (straight fo= rward tasteful slow blues): > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DIjvJou8tIXU = > > > Enjoy!! > Buzap > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 10 21:04:48 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 574131834D5; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 21:04:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1362949487; bh=zFfYdxEpMsuL0cLm9MkT6pzEkdby8DF+ADrwlPpzTF4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:X-Mailer:From:X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid:Subject:Date:To; b=EIB+ysHJRiqJRR0dsZILjNPIInja1dREOBpF8OmDcL7KNJ2QbDJT0glhjbdyLmLsRK1/w2Y8SPx7WfzbjkZv+vYXFg82Fn7DHcoRC0JXuXh5QIGzymR0ZU5WZ0lZjDdW4OohC4F+SYJEz1VgEMBMsJpVLfefIIioyhIO55SeJwk= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 247883.69819.bm@smtp128-mob.biz.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: UX.hKDsVM1kCjXdRulR.kmLVZ6ODefxJ._WTWrh9t2uzFIs SoFQzs7IdYRysV5hzoSYLYNUtY9TAQQCiSSP_5ZMtYrc59nIADPwDgXBDSik tC0PogEYVTDof.1WtjYjy.5zfgDUV.RA0Bu0kMhauRBuxvkm5hPYEIDK7Zyf rtAVOcfroOIDbZB69oc9ZNq6vFV3jsx05_HHCfOFET.eL0kOiOUdzHHgEXR5 hQ_7zdg85Ib_GjljAqxOWLS._Lvee3tpb5xwCFQPua7s_1D9M3PCJV39MjMG 7IFZ64EwOV24XC7PMBwoEUo_pCUtR6B8IPJ6TElBu2eLSvKuWnSCy8b7TMhh NQQFB87ngsezeKrptDqy2X7ghGbRn6s_EhbtAjlv2sWmhhdBu32WjK7zsG43 BvrH_7pAZNiXTDjNXK1479LdbAaBjmvWBRwTEycWZhLqwAn1NaBT.0z2PCA6 YLP5VuCjc0VsFOOT3tVGhBclP4b_sBIvyh7UtyUO.lVTqlEfsbWdANyaqZw- - X-Yahoo-SMTP: 7n7qsyGswBCgTbRPvUUz9QEYRfjrM9w1ZUA- References: <410D4E86-B613-4FCA-8C22-6F04F5BB1AAC@gmail.com> <5139E7D1.3050907@googlemail.com> <8CFEBC92F00C857-2214-221AA@webmailstg-d03.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder: Inbox Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8J2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8J2) From: Antony Hequet X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid: 2_0_0_1_3160733_AIol5C4AAIchUTz1FgS8sjlDEEk Subject: Re: Aw: Re: OT: Harmonica (harmonica players worth listening) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 22:04:42 +0100 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120507 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 21:04:48 +0000 (UTC) I play the harmonica and. I am not 100 years old:-) Antony Hequet Poet composer On 10 mars 2013, at 22:03, Buzap wrote: > You guys are still talking about music that's hundred years ago (Little Wa= lter, Sugar Blue...). > I kind of feel people only know this kind of harmonica music - and thus ha= ve a limited perspective on this instrument. > My intention was to broaden the perspective - by offering the links below.= > best regards > Buzap >=20 >> Gesendet: Sonntag, 10. M=C3=A4rz 2013 um 20:41 Uhr >> Von: Buzap >> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Betreff: Re: OT: Harmonica (harmonica players worth listening) >>=20 >> Hi folks >>=20 >> thanks for your encouraging words. >> While everyone know the big harmonica legends (i.e. Toots, Stevie Wonder,= Sonny, possibly Howard Levy), I just want to invite you to check out a few o= ther harmonica players: >>=20 >> - Franz Chmel (Austrian chromatic harmonica god plays Paganini): >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DdEevfUAn-80 >>=20 >> - Jason Rosenblatt (with his Klezmer band Shtreiml on diatonic): >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DAMfCRCeF9Tc >>=20 >> - "Hyper Harp" Jeff Grossberg (Bunny Brunel with Mike Stern etc.; won't b= elieve it's harp!): >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DYkMIYDUqQcM >>=20 >> - Brendan Power (here: irish folk on diatonic with Tim Edey): >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjHfJLhBV1e8 >>=20 >> - William Galison (chanson on chromatic, great solo): >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D71BrbysbP4w >>=20 >> - Lee Sankey (straight forward tasteful slow blues): >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DIjvJou8tIXU >>=20 >>=20 >> Enjoy!! >> Buzap >>=20 >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 10 22:13:18 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25A501834D3; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 22:13:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 363256.76122.bm@omp1021.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1362953597; bh=d+WuQXqxZPNxLtspccBzfgyViL4lCQ9181gIbTR7sjo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yU8wsgUBW8plbRbnOj9eDEjOKSwLsPGzlfbFjf9sGP/NPz//Nhqpgo7TWCTZ4hnqzHQJJOCBHPdfZIWDR/w6COrbMSD/6ozPjQbufkdn94z9uGDEAU3Jx9xTqTq9sxK94ND0cNA+VvkJDSFNQC6qUiqu2wlDoWfE+k6SrPqHMU4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MyMWCsssYWyhyfB8QNKz8IOPhvImPeutYjgxRcMX0q2KZ7JO2VIIik1AqiJueyNetW4BR43jEIly7Ui3lFOcgoFkcHAYQd7Os6M3fRz7q9llxpCANhTpDMsTWNwofeKoPTaTc6xza31HtZuzPY37HYjtpACqpA4Am+rYKtO5x2Y=; X-YMail-OSG: JGL.DowVM1mk5dBreefsgME2b1lEKDSnlVU_Emp0b6g9aDw Rvfuhy0iZtwd61_J_gteHYlFf3bPOiY0Ujl448fXQqweQNqxNmFfj9OwujH9 YQyT37y7EbrV8CGpjWvFi2HRUmawudWeMBoEmChXqpLK2Llgs9Lr_Q1jxtL_ piDWYWtandMIGAjpJgyKars2kmsUqu10u5NpeepNs5FnXzlu272sK4Kb59Wj J_AA8z8ZjZ8a84dJ7JA1NDvwfoUEr3OecA.MzbLZMCFTpxUpWzfCm8IHnGuK VMRfIjmC0m4B47pX_3mpWUANYbiD6erax23oq0e5_dZX..aLwsv7cdacdpyd xZxSBAoj0w2xlpqVWqyZ7ViTQKLNyhJEByBeUyXLN7aX64daaGcF_4_8zAWH 0VfI5newhYTLZP8s5WkifFxn9KH7zswQ5zkUOf.GavAtnqSzbrL.6sqz0PNw Lpt8TxYLHG8HehhANzyR3znGRlMEgkw4792_LBFEx034rgrRgKswmhLFRt6A ltJCl_cOJXsQkAUPW4.DP8nMQpo1Acjf3t62dxTZxzc1W69uZCARiwzoKV86 QLgEtwLrXBpT5ZbgjZy72vtpJuaNHJAcguWk3coLEy449BKT1lA-- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,ZHVkZcKgIC4uLmJhZCBtYXRoLi4uLi5zdWdhciBibHVlIGlzIG9ubHkgNjMgeXJzIG9sZCBhbmQgcGxheWluZyBub3cuLi4uLmFuZCBoZSBzbW9rZXMgYWxsIGV4Y2VwdCBtYXkgYmUgSmFzb24gUmljY2kgDQoNCkt5bGUNCg0KLS0tIE9uIFN1biwgMy8xMC8xMywgQnV6YXAgPGJ1emFwQGdteC5uZXQ.IHdyb3RlOg0KDQpGcm9tOiBCdXphcCA8YnV6YXBAZ214Lm5ldD4NClN1YmplY3Q6IEF3OiBSZTogT1Q6IEhhcm1vbmljYSAoaGFybW9uaWNhIHBsYXllcnMgd29ydGggbGlzdGVuaW5nKQ0KVG86IExvb3BlcnMBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.1.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.135.514 Message-ID: <1362953597.6514.YahooMailClassic@web125203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 15:13:17 -0700 (PDT) From: K D Patten Subject: Re: Aw: Re: OT: Harmonica (harmonica players worth listening) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-1476983308-868047728-1362953597=:6514" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120508 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 22:13:18 +0000 (UTC) ---1476983308-868047728-1362953597=:6514 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable dude=A0 ...bad math.....sugar blue is only 63 yrs old and playing now.....a= nd he smokes all except may be Jason Ricci=20 Kyle --- On Sun, 3/10/13, Buzap wrote: From: Buzap Subject: Aw: Re: OT: Harmonica (harmonica players worth listening) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sunday, March 10, 2013, 4:03 PM You guys are still talking about music that's hundred years ago (Little Wal= ter, Sugar Blue...). I kind of feel people only know this kind of harmonica music - and thus hav= e a limited perspective on this instrument. My intention was to broaden the perspective - by offering the links below. best regards Buzap > Gesendet: Sonntag, 10. M=E4rz 2013 um 20:41 Uhr > Von: Buzap > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Betreff: Re: OT: Harmonica (harmonica players worth listening) > > Hi folks > > thanks for your encouraging words. > While everyone know the big harmonica legends (i.e. Toots, Stevie Wonder,= Sonny, possibly Howard Levy), I just want to invite you to check out a few= other harmonica players: > > - Franz Chmel (Austrian chromatic harmonica god plays Paganini): > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DdEevfUAn-80 > > - Jason Rosenblatt (with his Klezmer band Shtreiml on diatonic): > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DAMfCRCeF9Tc > > - "Hyper Harp" Jeff Grossberg (Bunny Brunel with Mike Stern etc.; won't b= elieve it's harp!): > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DYkMIYDUqQcM > > - Brendan Power (here: irish folk on diatonic with Tim Edey): > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjHfJLhBV1e8 > > - William Galison (chanson on chromatic, great solo): > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D71BrbysbP4w > > - Lee Sankey (straight forward tasteful slow blues): > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DIjvJou8tIXU > > > Enjoy!! > Buzap > > ---1476983308-868047728-1362953597=:6514 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
dude  ...bad math.....sugar blue i= s only 63 yrs old and playing now.....and he smokes all except may be Jason Ricci

Kyle

--- O= n Sun, 3/10/13, Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote:

From: Buzap <buzap@gmx.net>
Subject: Aw: Re:= OT: Harmonica (harmonica players worth listening)
To: Loopers-Delight@l= oopers-delight.com
Date: Sunday, March 10, 2013, 4:03 PM

You guys are still talking about music that's hundred = years ago (Little Walter, Sugar Blue...).
I kind of feel people only kno= w this kind of harmonica music - and thus have a limited perspective on thi= s instrument.
My intention was to broaden the perspective - by offering = the links below.
best regards
Buzap

> Gesendet: Sonntag, 10= . M=E4rz 2013 um 20:41 Uhr
> Von: Buzap <buzap@gmx.net>> An: Loopers-Delight@loop= ers-delight.com
> Betreff: Re: OT: Harmonica (harmonica players w= orth listening)
>
> Hi folks
>
> thanks for your en= couraging words.
> While everyone know the big harmonica legends (i.e= . Toots, Stevie Wonder, Sonny, possibly Howard Levy), I just want to invite= you to check out a few other harmonica players:
>
> - Franz Chmel (Au= strian chromatic harmonica god plays Paganini):
> http://www.youtube.= com/watch?v=3DdEevfUAn-80
>
> - Jason Rosenblatt (with his = Klezmer band Shtreiml on diatonic):
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v= =3DAMfCRCeF9Tc
>
> - "Hyper Harp" Jeff Grossberg (Bunny Bru= nel with Mike Stern etc.; won't believe it's harp!):
> http://www.you= tube.com/watch?v=3DYkMIYDUqQcM
>
> - Brendan Power (here: i= rish folk on diatonic with Tim Edey):
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?= v=3DjHfJLhBV1e8
>
> - William Galison (chanson on chromatic= , great solo):
> ht= tp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D71BrbysbP4w
>
> - Lee Sankey= (straight forward tasteful slow blues):
> http://www.youtube.com/wat= ch?v=3DIjvJou8tIXU
>
>
> Enjoy!!
> Buzap
>= ;
>

---1476983308-868047728-1362953597=:6514-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 10 22:18:11 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 099B41834D9; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 22:18:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 878696.81270.bm@omp1043.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1362953889; bh=IvfJUqL4BPvr5EqPWh8odbDtKyFDL6KUhRIpRtjUXGE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4aZPl52Gs+NniFpy8IF0q+JfrmJfw27TCzbLv9FX8j2p1WYlkJ2rwamqWSoNjeEp5ru3KUjsgjW+G+5qZk6AiPYmVkWLL92fyh/i1XVr1UMYbayk5fuXj+lDY6JepRPvpe+A+j2elvI56WqGtEAHpRZwdnDmfS+mk4zySZuzfxU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3Qk8uZX2zGK9iS4xy6nDRplHaKGdi+60ka499gMvoQVhEc7AOFgnuo6hlhqOXXhTr14F/DBP5J56a5DNJU6qeL0QbWmju0tRF+3Dpg9Bzucp3vhCKx1GLLnFeD4Z07UMx6FSy1sikf3uUbIhtQYX3fOeHH7wyFtqYlo/OEK//kc=; X-YMail-OSG: X81FXgsVM1nRm3jUPYwOMKCJukK3erGtGbxkwM2JFnt0FoU Vbk8LtcA6ShGx01r8r46VIAFjwcAuxmmT8QxOQ6US3BzNowFCAapI3YCoPvK DdDOK8mu.TnLLTuliaFdF23pBVuDyPZNjMwvxvJOqhgymUVwG.Dos99KV8Qr n.SuMadP0Adaj2XCoW4QHN7bkRRM9tx8AwWmsqE3OgUPcwH3Aizs6eMC8x_n ihJ4wCxNVrgGN194fcLYBd52.wSA8nWdaG0Az3ncw2OZ6TroGggOShi_wOCL XVTYdYj4cW0MUsaz4YiLabe3xZ6lJtlCC03oIqI7L97dkPCcngr3l_2jpHiN 43HOqN2UyTrhTFhDR5hOrXn4RsffRslb9KSYVSBTVpxsQU7SvjxhlGcdGGLa ChcCd7jBiYT6qZFBJhwgkxg7j49u.w9l.ueCGV24iwyTlWANUDkAxTT_B48J gIqtCD3fF2Ns18odsKNLuxAlf6sTTxz4o_.Nrp4f0SImKlnIZgptcfd7G.k9 pUIdxS4xkoB.c_39KpwuVgjlnyFkf_G.uVtOTlOenFig5nnTMYxmnOUF3O92 d7eNr6oadLIzs38bKXqEUWfoQgS7LwAOjZSETXbd4ic64HS.kpwtu.jHHVGj 6pDLHdRX75LSGtbqyfzVIn1bqNKs8oeYcmYlJ1ONviYCMPtaUPYTerncD X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,Z3JhbnRlZCBCcmVuZGFuIFBvd2VyIGlzIGEgbW9uc3Rlci4uLmFuZCBhIG5pY2UgZ3V5DQoNCkt5bGUNCg0KDQotLS0gT24gU3VuLCAzLzEwLzEzLCBLIEQgUGF0dGVuIDxrZHBhdHRlbkB5YWhvby5jb20.IHdyb3RlOg0KDQpGcm9tOiBLIEQgUGF0dGVuIDxrZHBhdHRlbkB5YWhvby5jb20.DQpTdWJqZWN0OiBSZTogQXc6IFJlOiBPVDogSGFybW9uaWNhIChoYXJtb25pY2EgcGxheWVycyB3b3J0aCBsaXN0ZW5pbmcpDQpUbzogTG9vcGVycy1EZWxpZ2h0QGxvb3BlcnMtZGVsaWdodC5jb20NCkRhdGU6IFN1bmQBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.1.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.135.514 Message-ID: <1362953889.58144.YahooMailClassic@web125205.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 15:18:09 -0700 (PDT) From: K D Patten Subject: Re: Aw: Re: OT: Harmonica (harmonica players worth listening) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <1362953597.6514.YahooMailClassic@web125203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-679638972-1016966376-1362953889=:58144" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120509 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 22:18:10 +0000 (UTC) ---679638972-1016966376-1362953889=:58144 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable granted Brendan Power is a monster...and a nice guy Kyle --- On Sun, 3/10/13, K D Patten wrote: From: K D Patten Subject: Re: Aw: Re: OT: Harmonica (harmonica players worth listening) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sunday, March 10, 2013, 5:13 PM dude=A0 ...bad math.....sugar blue is only 63 yrs old and playing now.....a= nd he smokes all except may be Jason Ricci=20 Kyle --- On Sun, 3/10/13, Buzap wrote: From: Buzap Subject: Aw: Re: OT: Harmonica (harmonica players worth listening) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sunday, March 10, 2013, 4:03 PM You guys are still talking about music that's hundred years ago (Little Wal= ter, Sugar Blue...). I kind of feel people only know this kind of harmonica music - and thus hav= e a limited perspective on this instrument. My intention was to broaden the perspective - by offering the links below. best regards Buzap > Gesendet: Sonntag, 10. M=E4rz 2013 um 20:41 Uhr > Von: Buzap > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Betreff: Re: OT: Harmonica (harmonica players worth listening) > > Hi folks > > thanks for your encouraging words. > While everyone know the big harmonica legends (i.e. Toots, Stevie Wonder,= Sonny, possibly Howard Levy), I just want to invite you to=0A check out a = few other harmonica players: > > - Franz Chmel (Austrian chromatic harmonica god plays Paganini): > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DdEevfUAn-80 > > - Jason Rosenblatt (with his Klezmer band Shtreiml on diatonic): > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DAMfCRCeF9Tc > > - "Hyper Harp" Jeff Grossberg (Bunny Brunel with Mike Stern etc.; won't b= elieve it's harp!): > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DYkMIYDUqQcM > > - Brendan Power (here: irish folk on diatonic with Tim Edey): > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjHfJLhBV1e8 > > - William Galison (chanson on chromatic, great solo): > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D71BrbysbP4w > > - Lee Sankey (straight forward tasteful slow blues): > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DIjvJou8tIXU > > > Enjoy!! > Buzap > > ---679638972-1016966376-1362953889=:58144 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
granted Brendan Power is a monster.= ..and a nice guy

= Kyle


--- On Sun, 3/10/13, K D Patten <= kdpatten@yahoo.com> wrote:

From:= K D Patten <kdpatten@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Aw: Re: OT: Harmonica (harmonic= a players worth listening)
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Da= te: Sunday, March 10, 2013, 5:13 PM

dude  ...bad math.....sugar blue is= only 63 yrs old and playing now.....and he smokes all except may be Jason Ricci

Kyle<= br>
--- On Sun, 3/10/13, Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote= :

From: Buzap <buzap@gmx.net&= gt;
Subject: Aw: Re: OT: Harmonica (harmonica players worth listening)To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Sunday, March 10, 2013, = 4:03 PM

You guys are still tal= king about music that's hundred years ago (Little Walter, Sugar Blue...).I kind of feel people only know this kind of harmonica music - and thus h= ave a limited perspective on this instrument.
My intention was to broade= n the perspective - by offering the links below.
best regards
Buzap
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 10. M=E4rz 2013 um 20:41 Uhr
> Von: Buz= ap <buzap@gmx.net>
> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Betreff: Re: OT: Harm= onica (harmonica players worth listening)
>
> Hi folks
><= br>> thanks for your encouraging words.
> While everyone know the big harmonica legends (i.e. Toots, Stevie Wonder, Sonny, possibly Howard L= evy), I just want to invite you to=0A check out a few other harmonica playe= rs:
>
> - Franz Chmel (Austrian chromatic harmonica god plays P= aganini):
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DdEevfUA= n-80
>
> - Jason Rosenblatt (with his Klezmer band Shtreiml= on diatonic):
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DAM= fCRCeF9Tc
>
> - "Hyper Harp" Jeff Grossberg (Bunny Brunel w= ith Mike Stern etc.; won't believe it's harp!):
> ht= tp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DYkMIYDUqQcM
>
> - Brendan Po= wer (here: irish folk on diatonic with Tim Edey):
> = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjHfJLhBV1e8
>
> - William Galison (chanson on chromatic, great solo):
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D71BrbysbP4w
>
> - Lee S= ankey (straight forward tasteful slow blues):
> http= ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DIjvJou8tIXU
>
>
> Enjoy!= !
> Buzap
>
>

---679638972-1016966376-1362953889=:58144-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 10 23:06:35 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E2FB1834D4; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 23:06:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Cp/n6QED c=1 sm=1 a=UncmS/Am0Fgh8c8TZh5eWA==:17 a=HI1MK8wt1XEA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=Y9ZiQYAqBQEA:10 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=hg0iVF60FA1NJsy9xuIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=UncmS/Am0Fgh8c8TZh5eWA==:117 Subject: Re: OT: Harmonica (harmonica players worth listening) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Ted Killian X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 16:04:15 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <410D4E86-B613-4FCA-8C22-6F04F5BB1AAC@gmail.com> <5139E7D1.3050907@googlemail.com> <8CFEBC92F00C857-2214-221AA@webmailstg-d03.sysops.aol.com>, To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120510 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 23:06:35 +0000 (UTC) A guy I've enjoyed listening and seeing is Bill Barrett who plays in = Steuart Liebig's band the Mentones. On Mar 10, 2013, at 12:41 PM, Buzap wrote: > Hi folks >=20 > thanks for your encouraging words. > While everyone know the big harmonica legends (i.e. Toots, Stevie = Wonder, Sonny, possibly Howard Levy), I just want to invite you to check = out a few other harmonica players: From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 10 23:33:06 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8ABF01834D1; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 23:33:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0KcV8aYmZY4PLR/GU9XjF14GZatUeMFFgfN8MuzSUos=; b=NXEb8ZuYMqCS2LP7Ft44HAf8Uzm2qGgH4KiBpRGcCy3WQ9qHfgaKnb5j2FrwD1b1/c 8Mk5wRuUMBi37atR5nO1yDCv7bRKBUVF23x5WxrdQEzqy5qyKgSZFznpN7POkCLdjjPD NhdfmCRSDIYRLKU8CL5Pz8aN6Sw3vEjGoZXtiesT4pvX401Q1w0XKp1suRtfRCr20WNm nrvxM2U7CbDbzP8/Gxv1UK9ignQNkW8Ti1s4HBhS07ZfOkl3Zvt7HX3Q5n5mLh0bDTZj m84RnrZu7wIuj8Pp+lOfNJ5CAyEcqX4r+u7AFcjxuKbntO9SluiOg9KErTIcBQqxciTo 3Ayw== X-Received: by 10.14.204.195 with SMTP id h43mr30445361eeo.14.1362958385552; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 16:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <513D182E.6060908@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 00:33:02 +0100 From: Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Harmonica (harmonica players worth listening) References: <410D4E86-B613-4FCA-8C22-6F04F5BB1AAC@gmail.com> <5139E7D1.3050907@googlemail.com> <8CFEBC92F00C857-2214-221AA@webmailstg-d03.sysops.aol.com>, In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120511 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 23:33:06 +0000 (UTC) Am 11.03.2013 00:04, schrieb Ted Killian: > Hi folks > > thanks for your encouraging words. > While everyone know the big harmonica legends (i.e. Toots, Stevie Wonder, Sonny, possibly Howard Levy), I just want to invite you to check out a few other harmonica players: As for harmonica players - what I find fun is the work of Gregoire Maret with Dapp Theory (Andy Milne's project). Great juxtaposition of the harmonica and 80s/90s synth sounds. Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0GxXBBqAcE From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 11 02:00:36 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF0861834D4; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 02:00:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=B7jUu84MoILtwMP3B89GCF7akW2rcAE4Ze49GwW/YRs=; b=XisC7ooITvJJSVlY5ies5cGx4xLH4PM7dQbrDFH4Wt01+h3sY6RFZl3JzBqiePwir5 m+UN+h2TTM3PrWoNv4Ik8Pa0BaoDCJVki5ITEdM9x4H1tl+yUniqug3T6OlBZ8yb+P0W 9SF3m0HXap8vMNhnFGbf9tY6KizowA4vtIfZXgFje2hNnZM6hfITrdO1C9+Rrjhtw/Tk vuJcsWgYl+n9Rmkm/wYewKLuPZz+bG+2VK/D0ZlEslsCk2X7smZLjmhU+fEBg2E6YuJ8 /6bafj7WWNTUa5lc5Ne8wLvrLhldEp9fBpf2+KDhPb1yceEUqUrxnEOBl7RcY3bPsUeF SLpQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.49.95.138 with SMTP id dk10mr16640295qeb.43.1362967235935; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 19:00:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <513D182E.6060908@googlemail.com> References: <410D4E86-B613-4FCA-8C22-6F04F5BB1AAC@gmail.com> <5139E7D1.3050907@googlemail.com> <8CFEBC92F00C857-2214-221AA@webmailstg-d03.sysops.aol.com> <513D182E.6060908@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 22:00:35 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Harmonica (harmonica players worth listening) From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120512 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 02:00:36 +0000 (UTC) Guy B=E9langer: http://youtu.be/tFNwCTN4GCI Sylvain From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 11 04:53:45 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9CE5B1834D5; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 04:53:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 04:53:45 UTC X-EIP: [8DjxodjV3a7qaRkSHQZsJ8ev/tj59jj+] X-Originating-Email: [apacheci5@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro-harmonic Superego References: <1362916368.88212.androidMobile@web161403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <513C78EC.4070506@tiscali.co.uk> From: kelly maxwell Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <513C78EC.4070506@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 22:48:43 -0600 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Mar 2013 04:48:45.0490 (UTC) FILETIME=[B678B920:01CE1E13] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120513 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 04:53:45 +0000 (UTC) I have both.=20 Sent from my iPhone On Mar 10, 2013, at 6:13 AM, "andy butler" wrote: >=20 > Sure, been playing with it just recently. >=20 > What do you need to know? >=20 > andy >=20 > Paul Richards wrote: >> Are there any users of these out there? I watched a very impressive video= of the Superego on YouTube. I had a sort of precursor of the Superego once (= the Freeze pedal) but I Got very bored of that pedal real fast. >> The Superego pedal though, seems very robust. Particularly the Glide feat= ure for creating ambiant textures. >> Paul >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 11 07:48:53 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 435F11834D6; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 07:48:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: Buzap To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Harmonica (harmonica players worth listening) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 08:48:51 +0100 (CET) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal In-Reply-To: <1362953597.6514.YahooMailClassic@web125203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1362953597.6514.YahooMailClassic@web125203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:gPul6qm1MSJVyiUUSb+TzP19MTtOai5ECIneKQheWQG pzCms+uYC/8LPwohCSDA/Uy6PE/FzAUBaM7iz09SfOaGzjIaeS 5aJ6McCXlpBcAyQib6mNQK278O4SrWrn6XcuvGvo/tzAUdSKNK xhNIBX9T0DbmDmTlTspoDJJEt+DYqPuqQZIqbL0/IqU/lzmccY BAXLahkSusE8sccxkzN0t9iZtrVtDqCBQORWKq16lpfK18QQfx quldJS8FAfnoVuB2BIjm5LkMGRMQWkDIbrUlqaiGgJJ6G1MHcJ za3X1c= Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120514 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 07:48:53 +0000 (UTC) Hi guys >dude ...bad math.....sugar blue is only 63 yrs old and playing now... LOL... sorry I was being a bit judgemental here, indeed... Of course Sugar Blue is absolutely a great harp player & blues musician (and not 100 years old ;-) ). I kind of have put all players in pre-war to chicago blues tradition into one basket. Jason Ricci, Gregoire Maret, Brendan Power are all great musicians (and Brendan is really a sweet guy, indeed!). I should have known that people on LD list are usually open minded and well-versed. I'm really sorry. But I've been so frustrated in the past. Because I rather play stuff like this on the harp: https://soundcloud.com/buzap/orientalharp And I'm usually confronted by very rigid expectations what a harp player is "supposed" to play/sound like. Don't have this problem on other, rather well established instruments - so I'm kind of on the brim of giving up... thanks for your responses Buzap From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 11 08:29:11 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C32D1834DD; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 08:29:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 505389.89685.bm@omp1068.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1362990550; bh=7wdiKeMBOksTRslOye54PaWmQtNGnTUeHLv76DAh6yE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pqly9Ilb3PlkOUc8P3UjDqkigcL6Ib13OH4GJ89vTr/1CGHb03gAKCOka6QZx2JRntPQmphH18D8NiauBPPif2CMm6lxzPseUuw3377U0jcGLc/Y5Sss7v5yy0z7DssHZ593q8Ya2VBGNVaVpD/75Aqj8RWNmKJTGiquui0ioLc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HqwAfCL72uFXj36YI6lMI5KRlbK35JajtjEA/QewmwJBWTIvWzg82xd76WKTl5+x+u8WRhzrJxAwH4YNNxpDptejWF+1iZ9qf/LKf1hKGxw4q5asJMFL6L9lv+UYU3JPnCE6y9W5cTZrgA1us46rxpsA3fYrIrtqxerkjsuDLUU=; X-YMail-OSG: tB33b4sVM1n5HsNTT9_und5F_sbEYooe0k13tyVJ0.HKFG5 OGLCUqBxIKu8fgTFmjsZCy3N.cC_9yoUFv6_.zkOe1e9S7wzVNX5GhSTQRly _8Me8ppYMzecNwX1Io6op9fjZyXGS6qoHYc1yrgTEVyb.SSsld5UE5gJjoQk dQzjdI8kfiKzGgQ5hdBKm3pi8YkynYO7IyWq0LRFSgBcfEm.AWXEXznk13vh Qyj6GeR3S59wSYSZdyi3RpnWbM4iw2Sf1d5IHA898iDHrEYUOOjtSTekzXbr hC30BLlcCsDCr2C6ZUB.sf9umnQr6E99FK7J.VvBR4YShzNq84b1gJqBUTOO kphDvuCqGn.ESEhKqOJ6tZmuvXWp0Q2qoEbR1Ax1V6_uzljAUNurqClAqmmV kDsujzCYPCo.FtYXNEIsI0uU_ohcsgxkpcfWUGvXJtWSyZVpviPmTj41ihu9 kjFzEdR9AswYqVrbeKQqGbFFcSorwwbWWt4Zp0qcI6HaHDreRYphYVAUZf0r .h7L2t0zh9sRLggWFKKmS9y6qkaQiZJEQNSe.c0x015VAWbK.l_FRoW9tRXy Erv3FOVoGpsE1Ur6tST4AdlqyovkMbM3itsIC4oFc9JbOy9m9ni9vwtxd9lH 819OCqvFkIXDENjAK1IaPNVDRX6HNm5S5BZ_9tItjO74Gm2UefM0Xx2HA5Mn nZT9dX2l8JS0F0r2J7ztgb74eE1DcASZ5HGWGk5OxkxK_K6TBbUie6jw9kAx iJsj9H0.sURiy1uYi5Qtk7Br1EC9r_qWUHHQNRjsh61.E2E_AI5ZYHPSgZ7g DAnOqqHZxGbNizxgAKAu_UjL7Oq7aQwe2GKW9q3NMuQDAPol17J1VVOL9d_w ZKUb4krt.k5lLFu8NEM4bjmIyEUhxFeG7q.caZ7lOjH.f5LEP9XYWDOCGbIg ZeBbWudHlxkg2ZK0o1KYrkZu7kQJ0QKR. X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,bmljZSBzdHVmZiBtYW4uLi5pIGVudnkgeW91ciBhYmlsaXR5IHRvIGJlbmQgb24gdGhlIGhpIGVuZC4uSSdtIGtpbmQgb2Ygc3R1Y2sgaW4gdGhlIDEtNC01IGJsdWVzIHRoaW5nIHdpdGggaGFycCByaWdodCBub3cgKGFzIGluIG15IFlvdVR1YmUgbGluayBiZWxvdykgYnV0IGkgZGlkIHBpY2tlZCB1cCBHbGVubiBXZWlzZXIncyBib29rIG9uIGJsdWVncmFzcyBoYXJwLi4uSSd2ZSBzdG9wcGVkIHBsYXlpbmcgcHVibGljbHkgZm9yIHRoZSB0aW1lIGJlaW5nIC4ubWF5IGJlIGkgc2hvdWxkIGdvIGJhY2sgdG8BMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.1.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.137.519 Message-ID: <1362990550.7990.YahooMailClassic@web125203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 01:29:10 -0700 (PDT) From: K D Patten Subject: Re: OT: Harmonica (harmonica players worth listening) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-1476983308-1913528588-1362990550=:7990" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120515 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 08:29:11 +0000 (UTC) ---1476983308-1913528588-1362990550=:7990 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable nice stuff man...i envy your ability to bend on the hi end..I'm kind of stu= ck in the 1-4-5 blues thing with harp right now (as in my YouTube link belo= w) but i did picked up Glenn Weiser's book on bluegrass harp...I've stopped= playing publicly for the time being ..may be i should go back to home work= ing stuff ;-) Kyle Dean Patten=20 P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA=A0 50131 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=20 http://youtu.be/Mgy2dbQHkc4 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=3DKyle+Dean+Patten+ http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten=20 http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten=20 http://www.linkedin.com/in/kyledeanpatten --- On Mon, 3/11/13, Buzap wrote: From: Buzap Subject: Re: OT: Harmonica (harmonica players worth listening) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, March 11, 2013, 2:48 AM Hi guys >dude=A0 ...bad math.....sugar blue is only 63 yrs old and playing now... LOL... sorry I was being a bit judgemental here, indeed... Of course Sugar = Blue is absolutely a great harp player & blues musician (and not 100 years = old ;-) ). I kind of have put all players in pre-war to chicago blues tradi= tion into one basket. Jason Ricci, Gregoire Maret, Brendan Power are all great musicians (and Bre= ndan is really a sweet guy, indeed!). I should have known that people on LD list are usually open minded and well= -versed. I'm really sorry. But I've been so frustrated in the past. Because I rather= play stuff like this on the harp: https://soundcloud.com/buzap/orientalharp And I'm usually confronted by very rigid expectations what a harp player is= "supposed" to play/sound like. Don't have this problem on other, rather well established instruments - so = I'm kind of on the brim of giving up... thanks for your responses Buzap ---1476983308-1913528588-1362990550=:7990 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
nice stuff man...i envy your ability to be= nd on the hi end..I'm kind of stuck in the 1-4-5 blues thing with harp righ= t now (as in my YouTube link below) but i did picked up Glenn Weiser's book= on bluegrass harp...I've stopped playing publicly for the time being ..may= be i should go back to home working stuff ;-)

Kyle Dean Patten
P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA  50131
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<= a rel=3D"nofollow" style=3D"font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;fo= nt-weight:bold;" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://youtu.be/Mgy2dbQHkc4">ht= tp://youtu.be/Mgy2dbQHkc4<= br>
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=3DKyle+Dean+Patten+

http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten
http://www.= myspace.com/kyledeanpatten
http://www.linkedin.com/in/kyledeanpatten

--- O= n Mon, 3/11/13, Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote:

From: Buzap <buzap@gmx.net>
Subject: Re: OT:= Harmonica (harmonica players worth listening)
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
Date: Monday, March 11, 2013, 2:48 AM

Hi guys

>dude  ...bad math.....sugar blue is = only 63 yrs old and playing now...
LOL... sorry I was being a bit judgem= ental here, indeed... Of course Sugar Blue is absolutely a great harp playe= r & blues musician (and not 100 years old ;-) ). I kind of have put all players in pre-war to chicago blues tradition into one basket.
Jason Ri= cci, Gregoire Maret, Brendan Power are all great musicians (and Brendan is = really a sweet guy, indeed!).
I should have known that people on LD list= are usually open minded and well-versed.

I'm really sorry. But I've= been so frustrated in the past. Because I rather play stuff like this on t= he harp:
https://soundcloud.com/buzap/orientalharp
And I'm usually c= onfronted by very rigid expectations what a harp player is "supposed" to pl= ay/sound like.
Don't have this problem on other, rather well established= instruments - so I'm kind of on the brim of giving up...

thanks for= your responses
Buzap

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I pulled the trigger Sunday and bought one at a local Guitar Centre. Didnt explore it fully as I wanted to just run scales and jam. One thing I noticed off the bat was that bass-ier sounds tended to distort (I like the bridge pickup with humbuckers) so maybe I have to revert to the neck or middle setting of my guitar.

I think I'm going to put together a kind of quick start as well so I can remember what the key elements of control do as they can act differently based on main function selected (ie latch, etc.).

P

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From: kelly maxwell <apacheci5@hotmail.com>;
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>;
Subject: Re: Electro-harmonic Superego
Sent: Mon, Mar 11, 2013 4:48:43 AM

I have both.

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On Mar 10, 2013, at 6:13 AM, "andy butler" <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

>
> Sure, been playing with it just recently.
>
> What do you need to know?
>
> andy
>
> Paul Richards wrote:
>> Are there any users of these out there? I watched a very impressive video of the Superego on YouTube. I had a sort of precursor of the Superego once (the Freeze pedal) but I Got very bored of that pedal real fast.
>> The Superego pedal though, seems very robust. Particularly the Glide feature for creating ambiant textures.
>> Paul
>
>

--234730655-1712392237-1363004708=:22883-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 11 14:45:15 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60A711834DF; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 14:45:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to :to:references:message-id:x-mailer:x-gm-message-state; bh=Zql48fcYKzNiqUN8JuW0vM/IhoN7BKkhZ2Eh5K0sy7Y=; b=Gv/nXnrXs+0wjkNH3lZrQuUhi+wNNRnabk3Vk157EpP5IKyieO1gZPoEuV+o2lwtRj US5KkTHs9h1lhUnIIb12SnancVy5rGbZktLPpCueeEwVkbBtVgWeNhBEZWieDPnRNnZu by0BBQ+rgI3rrx4moqbvyEGjI+2Xq/H6Csci4UNLX/b+XBAEf0K67pPkVEPcQAbAEy6J JdKNaH0bNWdXPFKqr5x3SRrh6U/qSqynaDuBh6lqJBrINgB03wgOgroaU0bRb69QBeY8 kK1myyZJ2IApPMIgtfmaSZRelFYX6LtlqQGV6qTw2qQ/0M2uDt7R8W81AdR0a0DOrUQf +0cA== X-Received: by 10.49.2.7 with SMTP id 7mr19292971qeq.45.1363013114412; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 07:45:14 -0700 (PDT) From: "teddyjam.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-11-306338770 Subject: Re: Electro-harmonic Superego Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 10:45:11 -0400 In-Reply-To: <1362916368.88212.androidMobile@web161403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <1362916368.88212.androidMobile@web161403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <51313AD6-5460-49C9-9FCA-89FE80FF490A@teddyjam.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnVh0DW0SAoj7/PMuz+SsluHw0qDazyFTjwmyaOGNPHtFuzLZ4CJBGcM3uEhZ8o+25Cam0P Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120517 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 14:45:15 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-11-306338770 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The SuperEgo is great for so many reasons. Very original and versatile = pedal. On Mar 10, 2013, at 7:52 AM, Paul Richards wrote: >=20 > Are there any users of these out there? I watched a very impressive = video of the Superego on YouTube. I had a sort of precursor of the = Superego once (the Freeze pedal) but I Got very bored of that pedal real = fast. >=20 > The Superego pedal though, seems very robust. Particularly the Glide = feature for creating ambiant textures. >=20 > Paul >=20 > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android >=20 --Apple-Mail-11-306338770 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii The SuperEgo is great for so many reasons. Very original and versatile pedal.

On Mar 10, 2013, at 7:52 AM, Paul Richards wrote:


Are there any users of these out there? I watched a very impressive video of the Superego on YouTube. I had a sort of precursor of the Superego once (the Freeze pedal) but I Got very bored of that pedal real fast.

The Superego pedal though, seems very robust. Particularly the Glide feature for creating ambiant textures.

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--Apple-Mail-11-306338770-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 11 15:02:16 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 666A71834E1; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:02:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+KP5g41oNMMSnUTUcRQXC2biWCOillgmSBxUUNuBJK8=; b=etdkIt2uTZ4TbovzGxbZfB2Fom4WHGe8U55Zx9I96xhcRm9DLjDCuP5VE/ohr9SXcH Nta/bSiQmHE8flItANe64JpWY6XzP+uvYimO76b/iX+Tq56aY36QSkuItJoN+OEYQSgG ALDQY3kVNz/voMsZSSwtRC/hFQu5LMX+cLIjKdD26zsVLhnqgfLSoITIaNopMLVCuzhY d8MVCHXB+V5XRg3T28AZOzAOHuovxjTFrxK8QefFDEWlE1yVdktfVh1OP0FeivzOXHj5 41CKliJMIMoYcBjsDaH5ock90OeVb60p71dJZZZNbeEiR67cYhnHQX0AUpzBtpEM+vtf ikXA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.49.129.7 with SMTP id ns7mr3213221qeb.59.1363014135798; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 08:02:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51313AD6-5460-49C9-9FCA-89FE80FF490A@teddyjam.com> References: <1362916368.88212.androidMobile@web161403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51313AD6-5460-49C9-9FCA-89FE80FF490A@teddyjam.com> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 11:02:15 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro-harmonic Superego From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b67880063695404d7a77559 Resent-Message-ID: <2AsaPC.A.QBF.4HfPRB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120518 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:02:16 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b67880063695404d7a77559 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 How does the switch compare to the one on the freeze? I find the clicking noise very annoying on my freeze, is the superEgo quieter, or is it the same switch? Sylvain --047d7b67880063695404d7a77559 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How does the switch compare to the one on the freeze? =A0I find the clickin= g noise very annoying on my freeze, is the superEgo quieter, or is it the s= ame switch?
Sylvain
--047d7b67880063695404d7a77559-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 11 15:06:11 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F1E0E1834DF; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:06:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=IOkb96Pymt+58eT3g1agRAH/B2rWM6ONOnUFvUGIxKQ=; b=mwbLtHfzwKaBJYHeVI5eRSxn5oWgN/7MY6rf61QLfeX3U2TDfrz2G6cToCu4GcQUfS rGYliMuAs3OlJVsOf5DbWHYEy4SjC0+Ed0QGv3BH0p0puhkMdb3xWu8+aVUevvXWRDOg 7Yz2xHEe1rIzy+YnxhEzFPe9/bNDGvvQViKDfSGEADJDoXeg9E1RIGqebNeTBTGXbG3y Ablpq95NEUf+eyY7PaYe4uoO8uIbvsOoKifaIVWKIk5hL5OUoXsYJa10Qd+TJeyWRwuo mSXlT/0PA8+5sFkKJvN3XaWBS9y/DiPTnU7Lq6RelstLLOprzamOXkdRumhTBwY4I+Is nVHQ== X-Received: by 10.52.29.209 with SMTP id m17mr4345422vdh.111.1363014370193; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 08:06:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <1362916368.88212.androidMobile@web161403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51313AD6-5460-49C9-9FCA-89FE80FF490A@teddyjam.com> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:05:49 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: f6lKQ5BzOuuyJdtXxG5HBfTyews Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro-harmonic Superego To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307d05405c270304d7a78383 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120519 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:06:10 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307d05405c270304d7a78383 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I only just bought the Freeze.. and although I think its interesting, its pretty limited, I kinda wish Id known about this... Plus, its imperative that it lives on the floor, and I tend to have all my stomp boxes on the table. So Im wondering, how much stomping do you have to do on the SuperEgo? Seems like theres some kind of Auto function? Mark On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > How does the switch compare to the one on the freeze? I find the clicking > noise very annoying on my freeze, is the superEgo quieter, or is it the > same switch? > Sylvain > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --20cf307d05405c270304d7a78383 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I only just bought the Freeze.. and although I think its i= nteresting, its pretty limited, I kinda wish Id known about this... Plus, i= ts imperative that it lives on the floor, and I tend to have all my stomp b= oxes on the table. So Im wondering, how much stomping do you have to do on = the SuperEgo? Seems like theres some kind of Auto function?

Mark


On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:
How does the switch compare to the one on th= e freeze? =A0I find the clicking noise very annoying on my freeze, is the s= uperEgo quieter, or is it the same switch?
Sylvain



-- Mark Francombe
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Enjoy!

Carsten

Am = 11.03.2013 um 03:00 schrieb Sylvain Poitras:

Guy = B=E9langer: http://youtu.be/tFNwCTN4GCI
Sy= lvain

= --Apple-Mail-9-377187132-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 12 10:36:21 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2539E1834D1; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 10:36:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: OT: Harmonica (harmonica players worth listening) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-11-377486989 From: Carsten Wegener X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 11:30:59 +0100 Message-Id: <306F71EE-C9DF-4A20-8D1C-4BD7A3C68B98@tyfoo.de> References: <1362990550.7990.YahooMailClassic@web125203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: <-iO2WB.A.unC.lUwPRB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120528 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 10:36:21 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-11-377486989 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi kyle, for advanced studies espially overblows, this is a great site: = http://www.overblow.com/ Best Carsten Am 11.03.2013 um 16:10 schrieb Buzap: > Hi Kyle > thanks :) Bends need endless practice ;-) You can start with hole2/3 = bends and start to control them as fine as possible. Then you can move = up to blow bends and overblows. > I can also recommend Howard Levy's platform for online tutorial, it's = really great: > http://artistworks.com/harmonica-lessons-howard-levy >=20 > best regards > Buzap >=20 > Von: "K D Patten" > nice stuff man...i envy your ability to bend on the hi end..I'm kind = of stuck in the 1-4-5 blues thing with harp right now >=20 > ----- > I'm really sorry. But I've been so frustrated in the past. Because I = rather play stuff like this on the harp: > = https://soundcloud.com/buzap/orientalharp[https://soundcloud.com/buzap/ori= entalharp] > And I'm usually confronted by very rigid expectations what a harp = player is "supposed" to play/sound like. --Apple-Mail-11-377486989 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hi = kyle,

for advanced studies espially overblows, this = is a great site: http://www.overblow.com/
<= br>
Best


Carsten

Am 11.03.2013 um 16:10 schrieb Buzap:

Hi = Kyle
thanks :) Bends need endless practice ;-) You can start with = hole2/3 bends and start to control them as fine as possible. Then you = can move up to blow bends and overblows.
I can also recommend Howard = Levy's platform for online tutorial, it's really great:
http://artis= tworks.com/harmonica-lessons-howard-levy

best = regards
Buzap

Von: "K D Patten" = <kdpatten@yahoo.com>
nice stuff man...i envy your ability to = bend on the hi end..I'm kind of stuck in the 1-4-5 blues thing with harp = right now

-----
I'm really sorry. But I've been so frustrated = in the past. Because I rather play stuff like this on the = harp:
https://soundcloud.com/buzap/orientalharp[https://soundcloud.com/= buzap/orientalharp]
And I'm usually confronted by very rigid = expectations what a harp player is "supposed" to play/sound = like.

= --Apple-Mail-11-377486989-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 12 13:11:34 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 917CE1834D5; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 13:11:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 656188.85826.bm@omp1025.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1363093893; bh=5kZxcunM4RL8PXraYcu0hnPMYXNZvwagNSWTUhFkpNs=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=RjsUPvuDNZj4cHwIjqnV9YUATyGQu694axsZzOzQHl4BVg+hdGEKDXgC3969iMTYCQ6/6LN2d6UAgVBAYGt50mif3naJwiyjySLZcwqG7iYi2Frj94WQJ2T2xspSNHYPliS1/Ul7czSDxsA+BwdsZk8I391/hR/19mZpZxQB1Eg= X-YMail-OSG: zoQ3unMVM1nGlcRWbY6Y1eAaM1SzNwuKL20rCzXnx6494VT fKLYessY.c10LgyyUDzus57fntRz0C5KQppbN5SCjL2656_VYMnZufaPpj0f B7n_MiEPq6ox.b.Duz1W4NTtQmOGlvCQ5c.GldJ5Q6l1izXZNRVCczPvH0zJ SHYYVAXJxA61rAh97AbB9DnYKQuMFRh5rZjY0akQwJ9P7qGMr5Tf4ZrK4Z9r XU21CPAVIpHNpL9Irkhb3nyu9quW.LLX3hqMXi_OaLpiUTLVZFlJNnUVHur7 LiIJC1WsbrW6tob5h3MiVi9JF8qqIg2WAz_staSolrSAOFy2Jzf_71y.9pBI zAgXNr2YY9NCRupWeiRaSLrJrO_dGDck.SOhHOPwMvy2R3oIpFbuHYkFlKyY cePQYpiKtwHWjZ0b00W8V8Baj6pvxIodWe4kaSDS.jSxr8laUBvJKNmrRAhq nygtWomS5t8PVMTRPiZuwfZd3Dyd0Rma0Yb6HI2JskFjpcUmR2ONMCi87N8F tnhu5X4kTHA8UNm2AiRd39YxzzuumX1PpLwviVdnYyj37z9Zm1TwKqlaWr25 HrRe2EIi569GmoTSeEPTHnJzfRD3naGwInU9J2DPMjkjXyQFLwNpOfr8xAaw XTqshgpXmC9EUx_FwTAFjVZydRVVxbcya.9FEnsWJtHCKsOYxVCn8projalj inqgIzcv1A0UGKBfC6SkPuPgp208tiC84F_Wlz69ebjzYpiDQZ2m54E3i_cO VHgku09RyiB1qPE.u4V6ty1Bkhqs4Fe14Db3Pkkh4CKtLW7.HmAk9Ig-- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,SSBoYWQgdG8gc2VuZCBteSBGcmVlemUgYmFjayAzIHRpbWVzIGJlZm9yZSBJIGdvdCBvbmUgdGhhdCB3b3JrZWQgYWNjb3JkaW5nIHRvIHNwZWNzLCBzbyBJIGFtIHdhaXRpbmcgZm9yIEVIIHRvIHdvcmsgdGhlIGJ1Z3Mgb3V0IG9mIHRoZSBTdXBlcmVnbyBiZWZvcmUgSSBvcGVuIG15IHdhbGxldC4gWW91IGd1eXMgYXJlIHByb3ZpZGluZyB2YWx1YWJsZSBpbmZvLCBhbmQgSSB0aGFuayB5b3UuIA0KDQpUaW0gTXVuZ2VuYXN0DQpFZGl0b3IvV3JpdGVyL1Byb29mcmVhZGVyOiB3d3cubGlua2VkaW4uY29tL2kBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.8.137.519 Message-ID: <1363093892.55851.YahooMailClassic@web84501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 06:11:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Mungenast Subject: Re: Electro-harmonic Superego To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <513EFCB9.3000603@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120529 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 13:11:34 +0000 (UTC) I had to send my Freeze back 3 times before I got one that worked according= to specs, so I am waiting for EH to work the bugs out of the Superego befo= re I open my wallet. You guys are providing valuable info, and I thank you.= =20 Tim Mungenast Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast --- On Tue, 3/12/13, andy butler wrote: > From: andy butler > Subject: Re: Electro-harmonic Superego > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, March 12, 2013, 6:00 AM >=20 > Sorry, no US part number. > Replacement switch for the superEgo is >=20 > http://www.maplin.co.uk/push-to-make-foot-switch-34489 >=20 > ...but just checked out the S-E and the EH provided switch > looks > nicer than their usual ones. > I take back what I said about cost cutting in this case, it > does seem > they upgrade the switch for the SuperEgo. >=20 >=20 > I used that Maplin one on the KillSwitch...but note that it > *wasn't* an exact replacement. > Killswitch is push to break, replacement is push to make. >=20 > Now that doesn't matter with the Killswitch, there's a > control which > reverses the function of the switch, so it still works > perfectly (but > the legend on the control is reversed). >=20 > So.. would that switch work on a Freeze...I don't know. >=20 > Someone out there with a Freeze has to open it up and put a > meter across the existing switch. >=20 > Danger is the Freeze turns into an Un-Freeze. >=20 > andy >=20 >=20 > Rick Walker wrote: > > What, out of curiosity are the part numbers for your > replacement switched, Andy. > >=20 > > I , too, find the switches on the Freeze to be really > loud,=A0 but I still like that pedal a lot > > (though I'm saving up for a Super Ego, too). > >=20 > > Rick > >=20 > > On 3/11/2013 9:54 AM, andy butler wrote: > >> EH have to cut costs somewhere, and the > foot-switches generally aren't that great. > >> I keep a stock of spares. > >>=20 > >>=20 > >=20 > >=20 >=20 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 12 18:48:55 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D467F1834D5; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 18:48:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Jhx3e02C4FJ4WahekcMPgP0oura130U42mn5nx2s7/E=; b=yomtNjnASJ7F9tmQRDvl/sqVM8a2yROTA7vY9UxiyJ76DJtehVhJ6VILzMBhGRT8Bl oK0CCu0e4oW/6cjGA8YTcxHtTfsk5lWcP3/BRMcu9LVo1OuBzt/JRrlsRfZO9ceGEh/O YI3h9ClShT6nCWtuwEpHmUmUJ/ibRLBdnaDUVjjEe0jJ1q3ixoBhGkih+1frONHrBAPc eER3EYTebHntp24Ej6UW18nL0cETSe848wqGTO6vI/aRvwIhuRhdqR0J5HGRmG0God3g K4QsDy9F6yF2cuBOGm6XbKdkSM2BZIPyZvTaDXOj/MY9hEi+mB+Taa5XBowaRBGqToiB zx6g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.180.15 with SMTP id bs15mr23758226qab.24.1363114135384; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 11:48:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <513EFCB9.3000603@tiscali.co.uk> References: <513E0C37.2020202@tiscali.co.uk> <513E9B72.4080303@cruzio.com> <513EFCB9.3000603@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:48:55 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro-harmonic Superego From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <2_S6LB.A.PvH.Xi3PRB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120530 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 18:48:55 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:00 AM, andy butler wrote: > > Someone out there with a Freeze has to open it up and put a meter across the > existing switch. Well, I have a Freeze and an analog meter, but no clue... Sylvain From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 12 20:48:53 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 102A61834D5; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:48:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 845451464/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.29.84/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.29.84 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMBAHOUP1FYbR1U/2dsb2JhbAANNsRqgWGDHQEBAQQ4QBELGAkWDwkDAgECAUUZAwG2PIMxj3WPFBaDKgOcPo4Y X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,833,1355097600"; d="scan'208";a="845451464" Message-ID: <513F94BC.6040104@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:49:00 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electro-harmonic Superego References: <513E0C37.2020202@tiscali.co.uk> <513E9B72.4080303@cruzio.com> <513EFCB9.3000603@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120531 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:48:53 +0000 (UTC) A bag of clues :-) ..probably more than you need. Analog meter is nicer than digital for this job. We're just checking for whether there a connection or not. Set meter to read Resistance, ( Ohms ) If there's more than one option for this then doesn't matter which. Note what happens when you touch the probes together. (Meter swings across showing you have a connection) Open Freeze, locate the two tags on the switch which have wires going to them. Place one probe on each of those...note reading. Hold down switch and repeat. Share observations/conclusions. andy Sylvain Poitras wrote: > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:00 AM, andy butler wrote: >> Someone out there with a Freeze has to open it up and put a meter across the >> existing switch. > > Well, I have a Freeze and an analog meter, but no clue... > Sylvain > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 12 23:50:47 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B779B1834D0; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 23:50:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=56zl+hJJSiNk6R/ot2M+jy/rftw+yG0ZHoRJC5uDMJk=; b=Cia1T+sQQrQp5z1KBDCnuriBvnwvtHzx5u0B0elezVhgGDgWsedDaQCkgtQ1MhPYxR boT1In+T6rMDvWXbIENAG/U75JxUn6HnfnxtnPqalJJM1kCDrSz3IZdVsZ8IoWzO9vCk uuObklSoyFO9BmXMZzCH2W8MuiQCIYr+DsDggRZu60yTtyebNDn6W8dn1LG54G4mff0n O5xw1PT/Z+1DxFosSsoZ2B0kTDjvgroNfEVpPaUHuFCFTejcHBaLvk61rCe8jbldcY0E Wc8USmyk8XOdjSaxVlr4+Oq8MhlZ4iFo1tjK7k82fGNHS6zI9C6ekST0/wC4fZ6YxcUF So9g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.49.129.7 with SMTP id ns7mr12497705qeb.59.1363132247170; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 16:50:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <513F94BC.6040104@tiscali.co.uk> References: <513E0C37.2020202@tiscali.co.uk> <513E9B72.4080303@cruzio.com> <513EFCB9.3000603@tiscali.co.uk> <513F94BC.6040104@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 19:50:47 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro-harmonic Superego From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120532 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 23:50:47 +0000 (UTC) >From this test, the circuit is closed when the switch is pressed down. So that replacement should be good, right? Sylvain On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 4:49 PM, andy butler wrote: > A bag of clues :-) > ..probably more than you need. > > Analog meter is nicer than digital for this job. > > We're just checking for whether there a connection or not. > > Set meter to read Resistance, ( Ohms ) > If there's more than one option for this then doesn't matter > which. > > Note what happens when you touch the probes together. > (Meter swings across showing you have a connection) > > Open Freeze, locate the two tags on the switch which have wires going to > them. > Place one probe on each of those...note reading. > Hold down switch and repeat. > > Share observations/conclusions. > > andy > > > > > > Sylvain Poitras wrote: >> >> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:00 AM, andy butler >> wrote: >>> >>> Someone out there with a Freeze has to open it up and put a meter across >>> the >>> existing switch. >> >> >> Well, I have a Freeze and an analog meter, but no clue... >> Sylvain >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 12 23:55:02 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A43021834D7; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 23:55:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0177855384==" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20130312235448.16447.72551.levelstar.mail@everest> Sender: Tyler Reply-to: Tyler From: Tyler Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 19:54:55 -0400 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Subject: those interested in tapes and tape looping, PLEASE join Tapeville! 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References: <513E0C37.2020202@tiscali.co.uk> <513E9B72.4080303@cruzio.com> <513EFCB9.3000603@tiscali.co.uk> <513F94BC.6040104@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120534 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 18:31:10 +0000 (UTC) Thanks to Sylvian's test it's know known that a replacement switch for EH Freeze is non-latching 'push-to-make' like this one: http://www.maplin.co.uk/push-to-make-foot-switch-34489 Sylvain Poitras wrote: >>From this test, the circuit is closed when the switch is pressed down. > So that replacement should be good, right? yes, thankyou andy > Sylvain > > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 4:49 PM, andy butler wrote: >> Open Freeze, locate the two tags on the switch which have wires going to >> them. >> Place one probe on each of those...note reading. >> Hold down switch and repeat. >> >> Share observations/conclusions. >> >> andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 14 23:55:56 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F9781834D1; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 23:55:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <51426384.90200@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 19:55:48 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen to Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120535 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 23:55:56 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY http://galactictravels.info Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on ambient pioneer Steve Roach. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Sigh of Ages" on Projekt Records. The Special Focus page is at http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2013/focus.html#mar Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 15 02:01:59 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B26681834D1; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 02:01:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=v0zt5CuJFtl2WO5q2sWekGlo1G6E5rPFcsiMT9YABBg=; b=T6J+eYAEZ45VxyKs/Z0jxCtqhIdaEk5lL67SeAf9IB235ztEtrpZwUkT4ljtGOSted R6oNnkK2yi+nd6UipQHKNaiERyMwVfi+c5945hIBDkbIPgRcCbqGNZCaKVrvHwCOLosv Wc64wn3K4c9Eu+FcsnUJlMH7hMdYg+QdPNTGeEog+xMLbr6k1Ec1DUprMXrjHf7ZXrIg mHveAGL3kNR+9wj/FLAzDXnPrlNcrXuEkltm/3MNJA5dnQ4CKr6ZDXBDqWVG5+uk8CWp y2x8xVmKO9aG1rkBBrN+yua0m8Dqyga3t5ZcBBvRho7ueehX4GQZOMGlB1FZvAUWMsUG gyDg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.49.86.35 with SMTP id m3mr4054106qez.13.1363312919182; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 19:01:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 22:01:58 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Laurie's Campaign on Indiegogo From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120536 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 02:01:59 +0000 (UTC) Should you find yourself in the embarrassing situation of having too much money or too little karma, please consider helping a fellow looper conquer the world: http://igg.me/p/316534/x/90175 Sylvain From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 15 07:49:32 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 440211834CF; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 07:49:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: Buzap To: "LD LoopersDelight" Subject: Ed Sheeran Live Looping "You Need Me I Don't Need You" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 08:49:30 +0100 (CET) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:VyAVAkrVAmPo8ebQwxrxAB9fiHVDRzsJ+FBLHOyPotP UQ3tcT2PpdD+zYdEane7nmkTSFJCGenE5UTOkj1316nKlMDLQh /HkRmrT9OWKXhZkoAQWyRYQJZNczLTmCHQcU7j7z/FYizY4tBS 5UQWokB8aFDDvkZmGpTnPxUCa51bvIivgRwnmAXtVzMJsSvI16 sUS7Z1SRzNGWJrafM1axx7cA6FEOPPLvlKl0TXGLg3AY/BgWaT 7i7lXdrnbrnCLX3DOyJWgWVhkzUXByYCD49qInfKnGFp8DtKHc JAh+c0= Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120537 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 07:49:32 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks I can't believe this hasn't been posted on LD yet. This is the by now very popular Ed Sheeran("A Team", "Lego House") - great singer & songwriter. Here is his live looping version of "You need me, I don't need you": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV0TJZ7Kp40 It's basic looping (RC20?) with overdubs. He has excellent timing and doesn't keep the loop running all the time but skillfully stops/re-starts/overdubs, blending it with live singing & guitar playing. Definitely check it out! best regards Buzap PS: listen also to his other "Warner Sound - The Live Room" recordings. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 15 20:05:22 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 13ACB1834D3; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 20:05:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <51437EFE.6080108@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 16:05:18 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #832 for March 14, 2013. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120538 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 20:05:22 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2013/130314.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #832 March 14, 2013. WDIY Playlist: http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels?playlist_date=03-14-2013 RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Steve Roach. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Sigh of Ages" on Projekt Records. http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2013/focus.html#mar PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) VA [Any Pickford] Binarhythm World Wide Kind 2 (Earth Academy) Arcane The Portrait A Tale of Unease (Paul Lawler Music) Dirk Serries and BD The Sleep of Reason Jon Atwood (Tonefloat) Eyes Cast Down Knife of Karma The Separate Ones (Kalindi Music) Steve Roach Quelling Place Sigh of Ages (Projekt) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Steve Roach The View From Here Sigh of Ages (Projekt) Steve Roach Sentient Breath Sigh of Ages (Projekt) Steve Roach Morning of Ages Sigh of Ages (Projekt) Steve Roach Return of the Sigh of Ages (Projekt) Majestic Steve Roach Longing To Be... Sigh of Ages (Projekt) 1:00 am * = excerpt ** = continued VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Steve Roach. The Featured CD at Midnight will be disk one from "Journey of One" on Projekt Records. WDIY Announcement: http://wdiy.org/post/next-galactic-travels-2013-03-21 Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST/GMT-5 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 15 23:28:49 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B375F1834D1; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 23:28:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gs1L1C1JmEKIWj9UDiMClUK+1j2V/R8go+vVrrEcaRU=; b=yef2AqVWKbCT5umeKuvVnab0SWxUL8MQAgzwUnaEZimU8Y2Wp+2RzL3Q6WS152AsRY jtLwc4P3PUjoEU0DdZU3YuDqQkzuf6f1LnhZRWVjOvIqx13h4YgdI3h6Tf6SqeKEx0KV XWK8mbN6eDCwgXmSVgGOhtswS0pYmC1g0UDxHEn8Gze1xJcTLFFUPywehjFLqzBztXE2 ZkaKxO+dn7l47EmvIB/XKyO/EU382XsQMAmpctET7fUkENQoVZlOlTUekULPe9zRMbte RrRlMu2qGZUB8PZaDbO6CK3zDjtIZ8DZnf7gvhfhU5tkg3C8rWwqLFpaO2U6rM/OySC4 6RWA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.89.48 with SMTP id bl16mr8182360vdb.120.1363390129091; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 16:28:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 16:28:48 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FS; Boss PC2 Percussion Synth - As new in Box From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307d03ea55ba8604d7ff0055 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120539 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 23:28:49 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307d03ea55ba8604d7ff0055 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That thing is pretty sweet. A friend of mine used to have one. It's really fun to run things through it - rhythmic drum machines, guitars, etc.... Matt On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 12:01 PM, wrote: > FS: Boss PC2 Percussion synth - $225. > > Pics info, etc http://daedsound.com/Salez/FS.htm > > Perfect condition closet find. (seriously It was in my closet and I'm the > 2nd owner, hardly, if ever turned on or used). In box with all case candy > including original manual, boss stickers, and ads from the time. I have > three and so I'm selling my best one. > > Little multicolored stompbox sized monster. Pinging, buzzing, analog > percussive goodness with built in switchable two wave tone generator, > decay, LFO and modulation settings, etc. Can be triggered by hitting it or > via 1/4" input to sync to beats, drum machine, midi converter, etc. > > $225 FIRM as it is a very fair price for this especially in this > condition, they are amazing little boxes. > > Video demo (not mine) here of some ideas: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHc08BGGDGU > > > Located in Phila PA. I accept paypal personal, paypal regular (you pay > fees), or USPS MO. Will ship anywhere. > > Thanks for looking. > > --------------------------------------- > NEW DAED SITE!! - Http://DaedSound.com > DAED: Circuit Bent and Unusual Sound Devices > "Making Something Extraordinary from the Ordinary" > > Music and Downloads at the New Online Site: > http://davidtalento.bandcamp.com/ > > > > -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com --20cf307d03ea55ba8604d7ff0055 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That thing is pretty sweet.=A0 A friend of mine used to have one. It's = really fun to run things through it - rhythmic drum machines, guitars, etc.= ...

Matt

On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 1= 2:01 PM, <legion@helpwantedproductions.com> = wrote:
FS: =A0Boss PC2 Percussion synth - $225.

Pics info, etc http://daedsound.com/Salez/FS.htm

Perfect condition closet find. (seriously It was in my closet and I'm t= he
2nd owner, hardly, if ever turned on or used). In box with all case candy including original manual, boss stickers, and ads from the time. I have
three and so I'm selling my best one.

Little multicolored stompbox sized monster. Pinging, buzzing, analog
percussive goodness with built in switchable two wave tone generator,
decay, LFO and modulation settings, etc. Can be triggered by hitting it or<= br> via 1/4" input to sync to beats, drum machine, midi converter, etc.
$225 FIRM as it is a very fair price for this especially in this
condition, they are amazing little boxes.

Video demo (not mine) here of some ideas:
= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DtHc08BGGDGU


Located in Phila PA. I accept paypal personal, paypal regular (you pay
fees), or USPS MO. Will ship anywhere.

Thanks for looking.

=A0 =A0 =A0---------------------------------------
=A0 =A0 =A0NEW DAED SITE!! =A0- =A0Http://DaedSound.com
=A0DAED: Circuit Bent and Unusual Sound Devices
"Making Something Extraordinary from the Ordinary"

Music and Downloads at the New Online Site:
=A0 =A0 htt= p://davidtalento.bandcamp.com/






--
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.co= m
www.rib= osomemusic.com
Podcast! ht= tp://ribosomematt.podomatic.com
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Tyler=20Z --===============0898739093==-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 17 21:18:57 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E40BA1834CE; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 21:18:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-EIP: [zHFnCItIGfmuKzGfzucUigGhudLPhzbx] X-Originating-Email: [anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_16762fd0-1f02-42a4-8a96-4e655ca6db7b_" From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?iCE_sPRING?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_(a_electr?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?onic_guita?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?r_=E9tude)?= Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 21:18:56 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Mar 2013 21:18:56.0368 (UTC) FILETIME=[0897C700:01CE2355] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120541 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 21:18:57 +0000 (UTC) --_16762fd0-1f02-42a4-8a96-4e655ca6db7b_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable An now something different.. a short ambient-ish peice... Old Valco amp=2C Soloway/Kauer guitar and the Elektron Octatrack looping an= d mangling the guitar. It was recorded late autumn=2C in a cold cottage in = the middle of nowhere (almost)=2C but it sounds like the weather here in S= tockholm right now.. cold but not unpleasant..https://soundcloud.com/anders= -bergdahl/ice-springI like this myself=2C reminds me of Jan Bang...=20 I did it right after the much longer sONIC mETAmORPHOS but skipped the drum= s.. and tweaked a few things.. but essentially it is a continuation..=20 Anders.. from a COLD Stockholm=2C Sweden = --_16762fd0-1f02-42a4-8a96-4e655ca6db7b_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
An now something different.= . a short ambient-ish peice...

Old Valco amp=2C So= loway/Kauer guitar and the Elektron Octatrack looping and mangling the guit= ar. It was recorded late autumn=2C in a cold cottage in the middle of nowhe= re (almost)=2C  =3Bbut it sounds like the weather here in Stockholm rig= ht now.. cold but not unpleasant..
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I like this myself=2C reminds me of Jan Bang.= .. =3B

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= --_16762fd0-1f02-42a4-8a96-4e655ca6db7b_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 18 00:26:32 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 142C21834CE; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 00:26:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 387148.509.bm@omp1025.mail.bf1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1363566391; bh=4MDiFwC+x/PCOMzT8qiPrwjBbHoilEDsXPHl/G6buOM=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=M0fO+j8/ypBfohVGv6XropxQzFV3yj/YYXodBwywa0028rAA8JZ6R937bXeMEs8LRu00lJQR4X/DkzbzDARnf2OimjDu1t+UseAPAlOGsKwa5Xkgw3pND9qm/MXoevfcHX5kNdnTDnoOEy41RCaAMLkTu4XVf3kZt2Abk0+FjqY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=p+t8QSXv0gugXoq53WrjUkMHskg/6KpwW4KnHboPlN8Jk00a7rur89U9OAiM7r7GMdKpUsfrAHmEBloPqlRyqNPvGnDcdtyDKrhL1FA2WIFEw3rrxNSg31EA5+SsQeBHy9t77XErdESUXOHCt7lVJZcG+YzQWWY9N1cQlF6li/Y=; X-YMail-OSG: rxQoo8QVM1mC7V9yjczmj74uD_HNnT.CZ9qSyfRnm5p.vT4 ChzA1aBkreBG4B_7_bDsN2L4R0cVi3vIUpvXokrk9NMFhlQiQvBi91K5gGFi J.7P9FzaQtg7MCGKed4WunHQ7h._4EdcGstlAdyFz_C_TH5fDD6ydSUsQw9R JYJ.1iuAsfYDaAjRT0ntlLL_M.Q1UJLobJfnSO0Cuv6esP2eVf6wJgvm7iyR fWHoKxvdalmimtO.FRJjt1KFChMABaoldyU7yo_UpYujpQTdDnkURh1ivX3A RuD4lMsuvFxDWDvwKhVihrZcAggqn8DUJFNG3ahTJxr8FxZcVmsLALycsVmQ JqnhbyOTSWrzlkz0WCXR5VWqm2BDguY1EQodM0vlrDXrU2ACPOigx7ZbBe6E mw.t.fn13dkT2rcG1GOSTa8Eh28wVq9gJYXmAk4VcdMSm0001zhMjvHupIO1 5Gumbf_1sbIdq2XvdYGNA9mg.a5uQMXPbL_.1uEmIUR9HzzGAkIYGNyrH9UZ a.23yUA-- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,CldoYXQgYSB3aW1wLiBJIGFscmVhZHkgZ2F2ZSB1cCBvbiB0aGUgdW5pdCBhcyBJIHdhcyBnZXR0aW5nIGEgbG90IG9mIGhhcnNoIHRvbmVzIGFuZCBJIGhhZCBleHBlcmllbmNlZCBhIGxhY2sgb2Ygc2Vuc2l0aXZpdHkgdG93YXJkcyBteSBwbGF5aW5nLiBJIHRob3VnaHQgdGhlIGJldHRlciBwYXJ0IG9mIHZhbG9yIHdhcyB0byByZXR1cm4gaXQgYW5kIGdldCBzb21ldGhpbmcgbW9yZSB1c2FibGUgdG8gbWUgYW55d2F5IChHb3QgYSBMaW5lNiBIRDUwMCBmb3IgJDIwMCBtb3JlIHdpdGggYSBjb3Vwb24uCgoBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.137.519 Message-ID: <1363566391.22321.androidMobile@web161404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 17:26:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: Electro-harmonic Superego To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" , "akbutler@tiscali.co.uk" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="1038709272-2026993974-1363566391=:22321" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120542 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 00:26:32 +0000 (UTC) --1038709272-2026993974-1363566391=:22321 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii What a wimp. I already gave up on the unit as I was getting a lot of harsh tones and I had experienced a lack of sensitivity towards my playing. I thought the better part of valor was to return it and get something more usable to me anyway (Got a Line6 HD500 for $200 more with a coupon. Regards, Paul Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android --1038709272-2026993974-1363566391=:22321 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii


What a wimp. I already gave up on the unit as I was getting a lot of harsh tones and I had experienced a lack of sensitivity towards my playing. I thought the better part of valor was to return it and get something more usable to me anyway (Got a Line6 HD500 for $200 more with a coupon.

Regards, Paul

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From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>;
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>;
Subject: Re: Electro-harmonic Superego
Sent: Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:49:00 PM

A bag of clues :-)
..probably more than you need.

Analog meter is nicer than digital for this job.

We're just checking for whether there a connection or not.

Set meter to read Resistance, ( Ohms )
If there's more than one option for this then doesn't matter
which.

Note what happens when you touch the probes together.
(Meter swings across showing you have a connection)

Open Freeze, locate the two tags on the switch which have wires going to them.
Place one probe on each of those...note reading.
Hold down switch and repeat.

Share observations/conclusions.

andy




Sylvain Poitras wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:00 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>> Someone out there with a Freeze has to open it up and put a meter across the
>> existing switch.
>
> Well, I have a Freeze and an analog meter, but no clue...
> Sylvain
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>

--1038709272-2026993974-1363566391=:22321-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 18 01:13:13 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2AB5D1834D1; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 01:13:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=fy1tqXa1CYdXbItrlBzCOCCnHZ7JKFfD2YhrC6MFfrs=; b=dAfk4fr2X1hLzmTlEAMHhCrUXJFnT7n4XfI77cyOThsyRPaenzRYx0ua7sd1Moi9by /IRgRTeZ5wptbfvRY87L0hEU2BlwoTy4SuBzk8W48bmzq+Wa73vb4J8lGs2TAWdY0Z3z cqmtRnoH54sXGnBxWPlgfhpu9jnd1NzS5HTUGWRKIo3ANff6eny3/Ak+zikA/5QT+PHA PSn04NmzFykBNeiqX6Fy2PbWOELk6HqxpuLBflw9rPtDKBS3WA21lAJCo03zrIHd6few wXbxUCQhVLF1U34E+1QXkUpbEpdw/Kms5wEX3PwGm0e0VdSGsv9OdyRIoaf4uUd3JVdb ROCA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.144.42 with SMTP id sj10mr6085722obb.66.1363569192418; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 18:13:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 17:13:12 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro-harmonic Superego Now: For Sale From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: "akbutler@tiscali.co.uk" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae939916357443604d828b1f4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120543 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 01:13:13 +0000 (UTC) --14dae939916357443604d828b1f4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm in Paul's camp =97 for much the same reasons. If anyone in the US or Canada is interested in one for less than the Sweetwater price, contact me directly. Just really not my thing =85 Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Paul Richards wrote: > > What a wimp. I already gave up on the unit as I was getting a lot of hars= h > tones and I had experienced a lack of sensitivity towards my playing. I > thought the better part of valor was to return it and get something more > usable to me anyway (Got a Line6 HD500 for $200 more with a coupon. > > Regards, Paul > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android > > ------------------------------ > * From: * andy butler ; > * To: * ; > * Subject: * Re: Electro-harmonic Superego > * Sent: * Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:49:00 PM > > A bag of clues :-) > ..probably more than you need. > > Analog meter is nicer than digital for this job. > > We're just checking for whether there a connection or not. > > Set meter to read Resistance, ( Ohms ) > If there's more than one option for this then doesn't matter > which. > > Note what happens when you touch the probes together. > (Meter swings across showing you have a connection) > > Open Freeze, locate the two tags on the switch which have wires going to > them. > Place one probe on each of those...note reading. > Hold down switch and repeat. > > Share observations/conclusions. > > andy > > > > > Sylvain Poitras wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:00 AM, andy butler > wrote: > >> Someone out there with a Freeze has to open it up and put a meter > across the > >> existing switch. > > > > Well, I have a Freeze and an analog meter, but no clue... > > Sylvain > > > > > > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com --14dae939916357443604d828b1f4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm in Paul's camp =97 for much the same reasons. If anyone in the = US or Canada is interested in one for less than the Sweetwater price, conta= ct me directly. Just really not my thing =85

Best,
=

Dennis



On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Paul Ri= chards <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com> wrote:


What a wimp. I already gave up on the unit as I was getting a lot of harsh = tones and I had experienced a lack of sensitivity towards my playing. I tho= ught the better part of valor was to return it and get something more usabl= e to me anyway (Got a Line6 HD500 for $200 more with a coupon.

Regards, Paul

Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android


From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>; =
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>;= =
Subject: Re: Electro-harmonic Superego =
Sent: Tue, Mar 12, 2013 8:49:00 PM =

A bag of clues :-)
..probably more than you need.

Analog m= eter is nicer than digital for this job.

We're just checking for= whether there a connection or not.

Set meter to read Resistance, ( Ohms )
If there's more than one = option for this then doesn't matter
which.

Note what happens = when you touch the probes together.
(Meter swings across showing you hav= e a connection)

Open Freeze, locate the two tags on the switch which have wires going t= o them.
Place one probe on each of those...note reading.
Hold down sw= itch and repeat.

Share observations/conclusions.

andy




Sylvain Poitras wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:00= AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>> S= omeone out there with a Freeze has to open it up and put a meter across the
>> existing switch.
>=
> Well, I have a Freeze and an analog meter, but no clue...
>= Sylvain
>
>


--14dae939916357443604d828b1f4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 18 09:27:01 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02B8F1834CF; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:27:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 850513781/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.182.175/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.182.175 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMBAIbdRlFV0rav/2dsb2JhbAANNsUngW+DGAEBAQQyAQVAEQsYCRYPCQMCAQIBRRwBtlyTAI8cFoMqA5xIjiI X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,864,1355097600"; d="scan'208";a="850513781" Message-ID: <5146DDEF.9020305@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:27:11 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electro-harmonic Superego Now: For Sale References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120544 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:27:00 +0000 (UTC) I do think EH could have made the S-E a much better pedal by adding a lo-pass filter to get rid rid of the harshness. It's certainly not good on chords without something in the send/return. Or just using the send to split off the sustain sound... For me it's a keeper because it's a useful tool, but can't say I'd class it as inspiring. If EH had used their 6 knob format for this one and added an expression pedal input with their usual full selection of control options it would have been nicer. Particularly it would be great to change the pitch of the sustained sound. andy Dennis Moser wrote: > I'm in Paul's camp — for much the same reasons. > > Dennis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 19 12:32:39 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3FCFC1834CD; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:32:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Xrp15+k49ZewZXP0I/gb67wOlSZ9NXDw0MpJ13YjOdI=; b=RiTAp17+LRuYPj7acWPzecFoklCswMngSnJyYN129x8oNOVUBRoehj2wQYyfr0t77w YCYxXAXSZZjfzCHT12p1HAfouF5wYdbkOf+2LrLAXkbG8hdDOXl7QiBmdOVXuxZrZv5b NGuZeChyVjYtfQMXScxGHpTfdQXmFbz3HQDH3NKXDjtuFhQAyjHP3ipd66kuy7toQos1 k4jQcwfavOlNz10RmDm55nt735flSkRx0z2nyphUT9VCP9whFEOYXCe62o1eR6xDgHbo bySyQRsCmC31D6b7eKVSGinE4WzO0zkdxNMQYhdorVg0QlsuDvqiW7/guyC82Ps5yEZL FJog== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.44.194 with SMTP id g2mr2167212vem.1.1363696358635; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 05:32:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 13:32:38 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Roland GK cable noise issue From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120545 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:32:39 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I'm experiencing fatal noise issues with the Roland GK cable. If I move or touch the cable all hell breaks loose in the PA. Are these cables normally this sensitive? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 19 12:36:06 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 265CB1834CE; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:36:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=UQQntvprtKkAMpSZBZrV1+GQj6CIie7K5qaHk+kSKvE=; b=U4xenHpcphKemyfBGOxXnikZ5Gh+1xMmDsjlqMe9AkfSzykl6d6uZ7V4lK2GNlJIcL GEKd2qgJB89t6P3KeFYhntk335SJB62ljsFmLbngmpwwwVY/4iUOKeEk3WG0ibmTw0Ch Y7HugHrlXimYe9ftCzdPVihclOToyP3wMh8Eby/jSaI7/6g4WfCIEz2kXTD5JPnN+9J2 g7wmiGwmaw1MVNVXOcPbNvb5Noounv77vCQKTmuG2td1IWp689r+Y5rliiLhA+29kGUh AONaHZxEZqoILzkswEUmFo2qmYOZ9ymuN6YEaHGUOVCmknrCdCKRp8I98ego+zjdhLZs dilQ== X-Received: by 10.194.133.198 with SMTP id pe6mr2994905wjb.9.1363696565066; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 05:36:05 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Re: Roland GK cable noise issue From: Simeon Harris In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:36:01 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1D08FB47-96BA-43C7-9EEE-BE56721C3289@googlemail.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120546 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:36:06 +0000 (UTC) i had problems with mine when i tried to send the magnetic signal down = it. in the end i used a standard cable for the mags. it's not shielded = very well On 19 Mar 2013, at 12:32, Per Boysen wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I'm experiencing fatal noise issues with the Roland GK cable. If I > move or touch the cable all hell breaks loose in the PA. Are these > cables normally this sensitive? >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 19 13:00:33 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B0951834D4; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 13:00:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rT3cnw33ANH2XYSa4fSJP6oMPE9Bi8QWh7chYIfcqx4=; b=dT1Dgw2ivcp9f6EQwa3cj/3mI5puJxAUz8JcHFqNMKlE4s7I8vRo6+oG4Ej5JQoBhX pK5QMIsHE1N5imp2jDb8NzTCLTk62YtWLSA0YJ1/xncwd6I1nsjLiHRXty2UESM5KsXu hk+GYi5UEEKpL7o/0B+CNK10z0THr9vbH3InjBPFn4PUiii2Vcqo7dAsGGSO/AzGL9YO 5ZQBC75M7AbWIi+b3EldjrrMW7GhSzCbG2gEI5QO1nuecTLCA/2TOGXftlSuWsEBnboN TbkIk/ePwfVyZpWTLqsDdHe0U2szWZUgrwg1yqE75x3ttEDX6u5ujRg+1b09BscXCNKW DaLw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.110.205 with SMTP id o13mr2417884vcp.22.1363698032497; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 06:00:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1D08FB47-96BA-43C7-9EEE-BE56721C3289@googlemail.com> References: <1D08FB47-96BA-43C7-9EEE-BE56721C3289@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:00:32 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Roland GK cable noise issue From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120547 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 13:00:32 +0000 (UTC) Sure, I totally agree with that. I would never send the magnetic pickups through the GK shebang since it degrades the fidelity so much. Only the synth string trigger data to drive synths are sent through that cable here. What's happening here is that when the cable moves synths get triggered just by data generated inside the cable. If you sit absolutely still it is silent but playing in a standing up position is impossible. I have all GR-55 settings correctly set up so it can't be that (using four different global settings each trimmed for a particular instrument's unique scale length and GK mic placement related bridge position for every string). So it has to be the cable, doesn't it? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > i had problems with mine when i tried to send the magnetic signal down it. in the end i used a standard cable for the mags. it's not shielded very well > > On 19 Mar 2013, at 12:32, Per Boysen wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'm experiencing fatal noise issues with the Roland GK cable. If I >> move or touch the cable all hell breaks loose in the PA. Are these >> cables normally this sensitive? >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.perboysen.com >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 19 13:20:04 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 99BA31834D4; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 13:20:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=h1msCgRTm5ymLti/J1gIlomybgz3HRmJs3dVKBHzm94=; b=FDqhUqVfLuwWJxRTiRix17eJfJmIRkqRPUwYA2ImRLswNvIunxIKm1Or0bQvYVeU4b inEbQdjOrnW6Qhz7aUuxkCGKOR3Q0x9nArD58JgVCIzv03iFssBipo2lbN/zrzIJwhIl IQroVkXQvXx7hYwHVfCK9S1V8/xEQfDD3g60mN0sti+zwhvu2MjXKgBbQBrlbPrKp2Pc dAAfWUQdIeWdm0UxVsT2FDdOqGwnpuoT6yO/+rUrNdAjJoG+WSQBTgeb34ssDCNct18m r2x7d+SzzUvvsZeQuRK+X3iv+9AY7X9GBCwL/bC1VSRCu8ysFV+9HcXGdwQ8sag7FzWJ zrOg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.14.233 with SMTP id s9mr3117192wic.25.1363699203299; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 06:20:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1D08FB47-96BA-43C7-9EEE-BE56721C3289@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:20:03 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Roland GK cable noise issue From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120548 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 13:20:04 +0000 (UTC) It is the cable! Have had the same problem for a long time. Best cable I have had is the planet waves 13-pin DIN. Still noisy, but less so that some others. All the best, Ricky On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Sure, I totally agree with that. I would never send the magnetic > pickups through the GK shebang since it degrades the fidelity so much. > Only the synth string trigger data to drive synths are sent through > that cable here. What's happening here is that when the cable moves > synths get triggered just by data generated inside the cable. If you > sit absolutely still it is silent but playing in a standing up > position is impossible. I have all GR-55 settings correctly set up so > it can't be that (using four different global settings each trimmed > for a particular instrument's unique scale length and GK mic placement > related bridge position for every string). So it has to be the cable, > doesn't it? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Simeon Harris > wrote: >> i had problems with mine when i tried to send the magnetic signal down it. in the end i used a standard cable for the mags. it's not shielded very well >> >> On 19 Mar 2013, at 12:32, Per Boysen wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm experiencing fatal noise issues with the Roland GK cable. If I >>> move or touch the cable all hell breaks loose in the PA. Are these >>> cables normally this sensitive? >>> >>> Greetings from Sweden >>> >>> Per Boysen >>> www.perboysen.com >>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >>> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 19 13:25:39 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4037E1834D4; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 13:25:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tYyefeh5TEQNbXRgo8EdmQcO2MSeByZBbygvu29gqY4=; b=wYHKUN6HPibbeLpCE/5X5sWIsYb1Pe9Pk2S9pCC75bfvZFVG69RLM48sHE4pxwHG1y uGM+B8ruD2DjuvWeSpxQbcCBbb0avAENc6paOOGxtnzejkRzTlZZ2ypoUVsdbq6GiaP7 aiWtGWJwYlf/YJLz9Ow2YW4ExIaiZwkvfibnFGfELOKZdx4f69EBgVlptqw+m/yezMpW S7L/PV3sJQS3TLqJnfUhPbzBFX8smmCGSDxuOHuQGac1sPQsoMJzF0U1qgVkcSAD9BeZ B+jKPc9lpDijIadhZyJuqtjMOtQNNx0s/VFkcS8O3aWhH1rZHqMMQwdMQMrFG4w0dwfF I42A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.110.205 with SMTP id o13mr2549349vcp.22.1363699538776; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 06:25:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1D08FB47-96BA-43C7-9EEE-BE56721C3289@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:25:38 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Roland GK cable noise issue From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120549 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 13:25:39 +0000 (UTC) Oh I already hate those cables so badly... grmpfh. The best solution seems to be not using synths live with string instruments. Per On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Ricky Graham wrote: > It is the cable! Have had the same problem for a long time. Best cable > I have had is the planet waves 13-pin DIN. Still noisy, but less so > that some others. > > All the best, > > Ricky > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> Sure, I totally agree with that. I would never send the magnetic >> pickups through the GK shebang since it degrades the fidelity so much. >> Only the synth string trigger data to drive synths are sent through >> that cable here. What's happening here is that when the cable moves >> synths get triggered just by data generated inside the cable. If you >> sit absolutely still it is silent but playing in a standing up >> position is impossible. I have all GR-55 settings correctly set up so >> it can't be that (using four different global settings each trimmed >> for a particular instrument's unique scale length and GK mic placement >> related bridge position for every string). So it has to be the cable, >> doesn't it? >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.perboysen.com >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Simeon Harris >> wrote: >>> i had problems with mine when i tried to send the magnetic signal down it. in the end i used a standard cable for the mags. it's not shielded very well >>> >>> On 19 Mar 2013, at 12:32, Per Boysen wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I'm experiencing fatal noise issues with the Roland GK cable. If I >>>> move or touch the cable all hell breaks loose in the PA. Are these >>>> cables normally this sensitive? >>>> >>>> Greetings from Sweden >>>> >>>> Per Boysen >>>> www.perboysen.com >>>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >>>> >>> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 19 13:28:03 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A1341834D8; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 13:28:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=a3u2olYwRul+umoZxFkNHeKnqOFpBHitkoMn/cKW2mM=; b=bI5GRFwUNQdzaqiyTRBFBk/8p/YQDe6DqjmOUh0uBTvYYAbDBJJDQzoy1uMvyUOcSq NlfCEt/UVkTEI+3aEIYBekrVzD2LjELp4bq144q9ScNxWw12UEF0ua4P9n8JPEG7ecfb Xxcwyfyk4RKmghFxQTuet6H9v1YHVI8jE7GRcxSnZoOdKk7fFcxKdZbNdwpH2T6a566G igaJc+f5Bl8wLThVANApc8apqV2cs/3XGJI4OgoCwZFtqNayMg7v5blvjYGM3RS3UaOk SEFU4gsTnzr/2jTUGpvxfFpyUohz/XYZhEjhcpQAiIEkdIQ8fV2T5ujHe8yRAB9b4Z71 06Zw== X-Received: by 10.52.20.177 with SMTP id o17mr2105266vde.17.1363699682892; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 06:28:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <1D08FB47-96BA-43C7-9EEE-BE56721C3289@googlemail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:27:42 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6QZg7iCx9NMZ4ceMU0-qiatqBVw Message-ID: Subject: Re: Roland GK cable noise issue To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307ca1e42de8a404d84713d8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120550 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 13:28:03 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307ca1e42de8a404d84713d8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Question: I know you are using the AxeFX now for guitar sounds, but how can you use the guitar cable for using either the VG guitar OR internal effects on normal pickup, UNLESS you use the GK cable? There are options for sending the normal pickup out of the Guitar out socket, but then its too late right? Damage Done? I too have a regular cable plugged in as well as the GK cable, cos I like to use a few stomp boxes, so I have one mixer channel for a more regular guitar set-up. But for using any tuning things on the GR55, you are gonna have to come down the GK cable? However in answer to the question, I have had to buy a few GK cables in miy time with Roland guitar synths, and I always have one completely new cable still packages actually, ready for a break-up, it not like you can borrow one off the sound guy can you? Of course you can JUST use the midi sounds from a guitar synth, but with the GR55 you would be missing out more than half the box! I must say, that its taken me A VERY LONG TIME to get a good sound out of it, all the git sims were so terrible, but suddenly now I have got a really GREAT basic sound, and have been applying all my special FX to the same basic patch, with AWESOME results! Mark On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Sure, I totally agree with that. I would never send the magnetic > pickups through the GK shebang since it degrades the fidelity so much. > Only the synth string trigger data to drive synths are sent through > that cable here. What's happening here is that when the cable moves > synths get triggered just by data generated inside the cable. If you > sit absolutely still it is silent but playing in a standing up > position is impossible. I have all GR-55 settings correctly set up so > it can't be that (using four different global settings each trimmed > for a particular instrument's unique scale length and GK mic placement > related bridge position for every string). So it has to be the cable, > doesn't it? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Simeon Harris > wrote: > > i had problems with mine when i tried to send the magnetic signal down > it. in the end i used a standard cable for the mags. it's not shielded very > well > > > > On 19 Mar 2013, at 12:32, Per Boysen wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> I'm experiencing fatal noise issues with the Roland GK cable. If I > >> move or touch the cable all hell breaks loose in the PA. Are these > >> cables normally this sensitive? > >> > >> Greetings from Sweden > >> > >> Per Boysen > >> www.perboysen.com > >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > >> > > > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --20cf307ca1e42de8a404d84713d8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Question: I know you are using the AxeFX now for guitar so= unds, but how can you use the guitar cable for using either the VG guitar O= R internal effects on normal pickup, UNLESS you use the GK cable? There are= options for sending the normal pickup out of the Guitar out socket, but th= en its too late right? Damage Done?

I too have a regular cable plugged in as well as the GK cable, cos I li= ke to use a few stomp boxes, so I have one mixer channel for a more regular= guitar set-up. But for using any tuning things on the GR55, you are gonna = have to come down the GK cable?

However in answer to the question, I have had to buy a few GK cables in= miy time with Roland guitar synths, and I always have one completely new c= able still=A0packages=A0actually, ready for a break-up, it not like you can= borrow one off the sound guy can you?

Of course you can JUST use the midi sounds from a guitar syn= th, but with the GR55 you would be missing out more than half the box!

I must say, that its taken me A VERY LONG TIME t= o get a good sound out of it, all the git sims were so terrible, but sudden= ly now I have got a really GREAT basic sound, and have been applying all my= special FX to the same basic patch, with AWESOME results!


Mark




On = Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Sure, I totally agree with that. I would nev= er send the magnetic
pickups through the GK shebang since it degrades the fidelity so much.
Only the synth string trigger data to drive synths are sent through
that cable here. What's happening here is that when the cable moves
synths get triggered just by data generated inside the cable. If you
sit absolutely still it is silent but playing in a standing up
position is impossible. I have all GR-55 settings correctly set up so
it can't be that (using four different global settings each trimmed
for a particular instrument's unique scale length and GK mic placement<= br> related bridge position for every string). So it has to be the cable,
doesn't it?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.y= outube.com/perboysen


On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 1:36 = PM, Simeon Harris
<simeonharris40@googlem= ail.com> wrote:
> i had problems with mine when i tried to send the magnetic signal down= it. in the end i used a standard cable for the mags. it's not shielded= very well
>
> On 19 Mar 2013, at 12:32, Per Boysen wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm experiencing fatal noise issues with the Roland GK cable. = If I
>> move or touch the cable all hell breaks loose in the PA. Are these=
>> cables normally this sensitive?
>>
>> Greetings from Sweden
>>
>> Per Boysen
>> www.perboys= en.com
>> htt= p://www.youtube.com/perboysen
>>
>




--
= Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
<= /font>
--20cf307ca1e42de8a404d84713d8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 19 13:35:42 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C13631834B8; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 13:35:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=buhrG682+fnEgSJdcu+NhJ7YK8y6JJbvo8bK5YIoJh0=; b=IXnnMH+NDHCaCr56xbX5jm0CHiiP4/2Bs8r7Uo9LvTCollrbbQ2huvaDBDHsG2sWh7 JCrMrkPtz50Sq8Bc0aZb3+0cKYPLHp7rR1KmFWHmZUDu1dhntvsJ1qxFW3gWKBkJHso7 UFCA/MO8+F5C0ORbkDUu7VQ9pV2emh0A9Com7W8eSsnKnZvmFUaWW2pNfYrvyB42wHub gtimkUwH4jUkwwS/O8f8yBSxs/WquaK6pFnqaeQKewcHJXOoJ2QBeLf0emFPgN0uUe1W kPW5rYMGopPJ+MuIXFVZKusV3KkiCMujyBiFgucJ6Lws3GJt5rMnURgfhtsi9S3W+XHG 0LOQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.29.70 with SMTP id i6mr1965058vdh.98.1363700142036; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 06:35:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1D08FB47-96BA-43C7-9EEE-BE56721C3289@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:35:41 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Roland GK cable noise issue From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <22p-2C.A.v4H.umGSRB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120551 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 13:35:42 +0000 (UTC) I think the GR-55 has great sounds and they sound even better when passed through the AxeFx. I only use synths though since I'm not so happy with the guitar mod/sim stuff. It's just just a matter of taste. Per On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:27 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Question: I know you are using the AxeFX now for guitar sounds, but how can > you use the guitar cable for using either the VG guitar OR internal effects > on normal pickup, UNLESS you use the GK cable? There are options for sending > the normal pickup out of the Guitar out socket, but then its too late right? > Damage Done? > > I too have a regular cable plugged in as well as the GK cable, cos I like to > use a few stomp boxes, so I have one mixer channel for a more regular guitar > set-up. But for using any tuning things on the GR55, you are gonna have to > come down the GK cable? > > However in answer to the question, I have had to buy a few GK cables in miy > time with Roland guitar synths, and I always have one completely new cable > still packages actually, ready for a break-up, it not like you can borrow > one off the sound guy can you? > > Of course you can JUST use the midi sounds from a guitar synth, but with the > GR55 you would be missing out more than half the box! > > I must say, that its taken me A VERY LONG TIME to get a good sound out of > it, all the git sims were so terrible, but suddenly now I have got a really > GREAT basic sound, and have been applying all my special FX to the same > basic patch, with AWESOME results! > > > Mark > > > > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> Sure, I totally agree with that. I would never send the magnetic >> pickups through the GK shebang since it degrades the fidelity so much. >> Only the synth string trigger data to drive synths are sent through >> that cable here. What's happening here is that when the cable moves >> synths get triggered just by data generated inside the cable. If you >> sit absolutely still it is silent but playing in a standing up >> position is impossible. I have all GR-55 settings correctly set up so >> it can't be that (using four different global settings each trimmed >> for a particular instrument's unique scale length and GK mic placement >> related bridge position for every string). So it has to be the cable, >> doesn't it? >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.perboysen.com >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Simeon Harris >> wrote: >> > i had problems with mine when i tried to send the magnetic signal down >> > it. in the end i used a standard cable for the mags. it's not shielded very >> > well >> > >> > On 19 Mar 2013, at 12:32, Per Boysen wrote: >> > >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I'm experiencing fatal noise issues with the Roland GK cable. If I >> >> move or touch the cable all hell breaks loose in the PA. Are these >> >> cables normally this sensitive? >> >> >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> >> >> Per Boysen >> >> www.perboysen.com >> >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >> >> >> > >> > > > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 19 13:41:39 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E7B51834D4; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 13:41:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=l3MvQAFMEk4zq3RYjcdcRLb2eM74ad6GiyTW3joc0Vo=; b=HdlYMQ6t/fT/71QUC+dt1Haa08H/ccVjnMl9L05dQqESpL1Vbf4eOn0QscQi6Nh6TQ UUJWpAuEZuMwcdM0yTeqzkyE7UWYqN/+B0lec7isbymyxXwKWXDjCEuWRPuI3iMs0LHI NsPezCC0IhwjvFTPXitj5+oh6xreA6GX47TqsAhq9h0Fe9TnPi8xf393MT7e5ICkHNQn jcM91CCRnweRy2e+8vtNVfyYj9c+y1DfFBCZ7LHCLX49HYj3GKcciDdLEtMk3QlIgBan M7ssZVERl9xPkOXFNDMU4f5755xYPPhVblAs7MV1ZTVp72UEGe1iD2MFUTZIHsQpxnrP bkOw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.81.40 with SMTP id w8mr3402724wjx.14.1363700498545; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 06:41:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1D08FB47-96BA-43C7-9EEE-BE56721C3289@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:41:38 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Roland GK cable noise issue From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120552 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 13:41:39 +0000 (UTC) Do you want to drive synths in Live, Per? Might be able to send on a monophonic pitch tracker M4L device for you. Not polyphonic (yet) but a start. Let me know and I will send it on for you to test out. On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > I think the GR-55 has great sounds and they sound even better when > passed through the AxeFx. I only use synths though since I'm not so > happy with the guitar mod/sim stuff. It's just just a matter of taste. > > Per > > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:27 PM, mark francombe wrote: >> Question: I know you are using the AxeFX now for guitar sounds, but how can >> you use the guitar cable for using either the VG guitar OR internal effects >> on normal pickup, UNLESS you use the GK cable? There are options for sending >> the normal pickup out of the Guitar out socket, but then its too late right? >> Damage Done? >> >> I too have a regular cable plugged in as well as the GK cable, cos I like to >> use a few stomp boxes, so I have one mixer channel for a more regular guitar >> set-up. But for using any tuning things on the GR55, you are gonna have to >> come down the GK cable? >> >> However in answer to the question, I have had to buy a few GK cables in miy >> time with Roland guitar synths, and I always have one completely new cable >> still packages actually, ready for a break-up, it not like you can borrow >> one off the sound guy can you? >> >> Of course you can JUST use the midi sounds from a guitar synth, but with the >> GR55 you would be missing out more than half the box! >> >> I must say, that its taken me A VERY LONG TIME to get a good sound out of >> it, all the git sims were so terrible, but suddenly now I have got a really >> GREAT basic sound, and have been applying all my special FX to the same >> basic patch, with AWESOME results! >> >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >>> >>> Sure, I totally agree with that. I would never send the magnetic >>> pickups through the GK shebang since it degrades the fidelity so much. >>> Only the synth string trigger data to drive synths are sent through >>> that cable here. What's happening here is that when the cable moves >>> synths get triggered just by data generated inside the cable. If you >>> sit absolutely still it is silent but playing in a standing up >>> position is impossible. I have all GR-55 settings correctly set up so >>> it can't be that (using four different global settings each trimmed >>> for a particular instrument's unique scale length and GK mic placement >>> related bridge position for every string). So it has to be the cable, >>> doesn't it? >>> >>> Greetings from Sweden >>> >>> Per Boysen >>> www.perboysen.com >>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Simeon Harris >>> wrote: >>> > i had problems with mine when i tried to send the magnetic signal down >>> > it. in the end i used a standard cable for the mags. it's not shielded very >>> > well >>> > >>> > On 19 Mar 2013, at 12:32, Per Boysen wrote: >>> > >>> >> Hi, >>> >> >>> >> I'm experiencing fatal noise issues with the Roland GK cable. If I >>> >> move or touch the cable all hell breaks loose in the PA. Are these >>> >> cables normally this sensitive? >>> >> >>> >> Greetings from Sweden >>> >> >>> >> Per Boysen >>> >> www.perboysen.com >>> >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mark Francombe >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.looop.no >> twitter @markfrancombe >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 19 13:51:56 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D85F01834D1; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 13:51:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wZtWb9KgX+aifK3y3f2e5Zuijb6U8SebFmoKnjGhHIA=; b=kOUN5Nsv0kUxNfYub/mpmxR4Eq8uKKFdA2PAfusZTkkxlHdk7KWebX7oLEer5vDOHJ EwArg0ds1JB7jtgi1RGCfmYa/5tF5gK5p5z4ZSw5emxKUdk4DFWEvEayw8fd9sEVY4E+ gKBhYMfa1swjgMTBkNEdKlTZBNGUW9xrbRGDVcRIiw2SoO5tci4JfKcIPhD485sCoytu PFq56X9KHlrzPKGlXJu7ympl9RR1bL//Qa3Fk9osv7VRC2aY768J4qZfbgcR1zJQF1UT yA1gG5p4QmWV4cZKyrbiUwJDgXED6otaSXaQRcSnGhfUKZ7mJUZYdSJHoDEyTGGW/HL2 TVYg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.44.194 with SMTP id g2mr2569376vem.1.1363701116347; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 06:51:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1D08FB47-96BA-43C7-9EEE-BE56721C3289@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:51:56 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Roland GK cable noise issue From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120553 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 13:51:56 +0000 (UTC) Thanks, but driving MIDI instrument is no problem. I send that data over a USB cable and don't even need to have the volume up for the GK cable's "terror". Interesting that you are mentioning pitch tracking since that is what I normally use instead of the GR-55 :-) Currently only in the AxeFx but in the past also in Live and similar apps. I'm subscribing to the M4L new patches library but can't recall having seen a "pitch tracker to MIDI" patch yet. Is that what your thing does? Or does it track analog amplitude directly to synth wave forms? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Ricky Graham wrote: > Do you want to drive synths in Live, Per? Might be able to send on a > monophonic pitch tracker M4L device for you. Not polyphonic (yet) but > a start. Let me know and I will send it on for you to test out. > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> I think the GR-55 has great sounds and they sound even better when >> passed through the AxeFx. I only use synths though since I'm not so >> happy with the guitar mod/sim stuff. It's just just a matter of taste. >> >> Per >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:27 PM, mark francombe wrote: >>> Question: I know you are using the AxeFX now for guitar sounds, but how can >>> you use the guitar cable for using either the VG guitar OR internal effects >>> on normal pickup, UNLESS you use the GK cable? There are options for sending >>> the normal pickup out of the Guitar out socket, but then its too late right? >>> Damage Done? >>> >>> I too have a regular cable plugged in as well as the GK cable, cos I like to >>> use a few stomp boxes, so I have one mixer channel for a more regular guitar >>> set-up. But for using any tuning things on the GR55, you are gonna have to >>> come down the GK cable? >>> >>> However in answer to the question, I have had to buy a few GK cables in miy >>> time with Roland guitar synths, and I always have one completely new cable >>> still packages actually, ready for a break-up, it not like you can borrow >>> one off the sound guy can you? >>> >>> Of course you can JUST use the midi sounds from a guitar synth, but with the >>> GR55 you would be missing out more than half the box! >>> >>> I must say, that its taken me A VERY LONG TIME to get a good sound out of >>> it, all the git sims were so terrible, but suddenly now I have got a really >>> GREAT basic sound, and have been applying all my special FX to the same >>> basic patch, with AWESOME results! >>> >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >>>> >>>> Sure, I totally agree with that. I would never send the magnetic >>>> pickups through the GK shebang since it degrades the fidelity so much. >>>> Only the synth string trigger data to drive synths are sent through >>>> that cable here. What's happening here is that when the cable moves >>>> synths get triggered just by data generated inside the cable. If you >>>> sit absolutely still it is silent but playing in a standing up >>>> position is impossible. I have all GR-55 settings correctly set up so >>>> it can't be that (using four different global settings each trimmed >>>> for a particular instrument's unique scale length and GK mic placement >>>> related bridge position for every string). So it has to be the cable, >>>> doesn't it? >>>> >>>> Greetings from Sweden >>>> >>>> Per Boysen >>>> www.perboysen.com >>>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Simeon Harris >>>> wrote: >>>> > i had problems with mine when i tried to send the magnetic signal down >>>> > it. in the end i used a standard cable for the mags. it's not shielded very >>>> > well >>>> > >>>> > On 19 Mar 2013, at 12:32, Per Boysen wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> Hi, >>>> >> >>>> >> I'm experiencing fatal noise issues with the Roland GK cable. If I >>>> >> move or touch the cable all hell breaks loose in the PA. Are these >>>> >> cables normally this sensitive? >>>> >> >>>> >> Greetings from Sweden >>>> >> >>>> >> Per Boysen >>>> >> www.perboysen.com >>>> >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mark Francombe >>> www.markfrancombe.com >>> www.ordoabkhao.com >>> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >>> http://www.looop.no >>> twitter @markfrancombe >>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 19 14:02:05 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BBD2D1834D7; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:02:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=plI3yJabVu280lDI2WEXUoSb9TsaJk/OOkt0zdE0XD4=; b=nXDsClrYdCn5ZY4Il3TFjVNjPQgMOblEsfe9wam2/gKpoJSC5tIAh4Pzib6BD0t6k0 PLolnOuGV+2q5ay72ILSJdzClkRyQHVCzREqJb7+2NPCmJyGr/qSpIRTUFzhZXZSOjoQ F+6b1h+tFimmY424smsMpL0jq26j4xXfeks1GhYTa1UcGdAo5VXnCOGDeRep2o0aG0Ga YjpAu3f0lUEA/2WHAPCEhaMAJJlCe4RMjGwcaHiSJtCeBwZcuM+VdHH05Wpw3uWANmAm YkwSUYstTWTyvkQGS+VogIPK2J6Zfwh28R8PrpMaYuxKe/QTuASIB+ctFiSB8q6x8EuJ AwJw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.81.40 with SMTP id w8mr3539993wjx.14.1363701724410; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 07:02:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1D08FB47-96BA-43C7-9EEE-BE56721C3289@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 10:02:04 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Roland GK cable noise issue From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120554 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:02:05 +0000 (UTC) It tracks pitch. It's fairly basic at the moment but will continue to develop it over the next while (probably over the summer at this point). I can send it on to you, if you like. On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Thanks, but driving MIDI instrument is no problem. I send that data > over a USB cable and don't even need to have the volume up for the GK > cable's "terror". > > Interesting that you are mentioning pitch tracking since that is what > I normally use instead of the GR-55 :-) Currently only in the AxeFx > but in the past also in Live and similar apps. I'm subscribing to the > M4L new patches library but can't recall having seen a "pitch tracker > to MIDI" patch yet. Is that what your thing does? Or does it track > analog amplitude directly to synth wave forms? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Ricky Graham > wrote: >> Do you want to drive synths in Live, Per? Might be able to send on a >> monophonic pitch tracker M4L device for you. Not polyphonic (yet) but >> a start. Let me know and I will send it on for you to test out. >> >> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >>> I think the GR-55 has great sounds and they sound even better when >>> passed through the AxeFx. I only use synths though since I'm not so >>> happy with the guitar mod/sim stuff. It's just just a matter of taste. >>> >>> Per >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:27 PM, mark francombe wrote: >>>> Question: I know you are using the AxeFX now for guitar sounds, but how can >>>> you use the guitar cable for using either the VG guitar OR internal effects >>>> on normal pickup, UNLESS you use the GK cable? There are options for sending >>>> the normal pickup out of the Guitar out socket, but then its too late right? >>>> Damage Done? >>>> >>>> I too have a regular cable plugged in as well as the GK cable, cos I like to >>>> use a few stomp boxes, so I have one mixer channel for a more regular guitar >>>> set-up. But for using any tuning things on the GR55, you are gonna have to >>>> come down the GK cable? >>>> >>>> However in answer to the question, I have had to buy a few GK cables in miy >>>> time with Roland guitar synths, and I always have one completely new cable >>>> still packages actually, ready for a break-up, it not like you can borrow >>>> one off the sound guy can you? >>>> >>>> Of course you can JUST use the midi sounds from a guitar synth, but with the >>>> GR55 you would be missing out more than half the box! >>>> >>>> I must say, that its taken me A VERY LONG TIME to get a good sound out of >>>> it, all the git sims were so terrible, but suddenly now I have got a really >>>> GREAT basic sound, and have been applying all my special FX to the same >>>> basic patch, with AWESOME results! >>>> >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Sure, I totally agree with that. I would never send the magnetic >>>>> pickups through the GK shebang since it degrades the fidelity so much. >>>>> Only the synth string trigger data to drive synths are sent through >>>>> that cable here. What's happening here is that when the cable moves >>>>> synths get triggered just by data generated inside the cable. If you >>>>> sit absolutely still it is silent but playing in a standing up >>>>> position is impossible. I have all GR-55 settings correctly set up so >>>>> it can't be that (using four different global settings each trimmed >>>>> for a particular instrument's unique scale length and GK mic placement >>>>> related bridge position for every string). So it has to be the cable, >>>>> doesn't it? >>>>> >>>>> Greetings from Sweden >>>>> >>>>> Per Boysen >>>>> www.perboysen.com >>>>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Simeon Harris >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > i had problems with mine when i tried to send the magnetic signal down >>>>> > it. in the end i used a standard cable for the mags. it's not shielded very >>>>> > well >>>>> > >>>>> > On 19 Mar 2013, at 12:32, Per Boysen wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> >> Hi, >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I'm experiencing fatal noise issues with the Roland GK cable. If I >>>>> >> move or touch the cable all hell breaks loose in the PA. Are these >>>>> >> cables normally this sensitive? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Greetings from Sweden >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Per Boysen >>>>> >> www.perboysen.com >>>>> >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >>>>> >> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mark Francombe >>>> www.markfrancombe.com >>>> www.ordoabkhao.com >>>> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >>>> http://www.looop.no >>>> twitter @markfrancombe >>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ >>> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 19 14:04:06 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AC1D1834D3; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:04:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=38Ze9GOU7/zFfOffGharRoUThoQP8p7gPpxlhCiBryE=; b=YwIY8XfoGjOHsfG649hb1K9d9EUk35jA78QkTK0amLZVycSZbsiLX93JZF8s881yte V6HsCRw+4tf4+o69JlF0CtyOZJSuW9IZzokAPtDxrjDqRffTT8Ivfxn35Q9y9TvIO934 XmJmoz0MyyMXmhKaJiBYgQUqM4kTHvMHU2TmuwZQ4IO4OKm5QDNstxdHQo5E3Kbon7Z9 Z3l9p7WL7Uay9/CYgqCz2NNtjGnsSk96+OgHn2Vi4OKjGAyrJPVD/lOlYZ6U2ltX8wgN ZmVOwl/l/tXuR3DFk4lTis6mdyXwySd+JAItR61KWmPKxWGVSH2+Sg38MGdfS19TXpZX zbEA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.33.167 with SMTP id s7mr2132601vdi.52.1363701845875; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 07:04:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1D08FB47-96BA-43C7-9EEE-BE56721C3289@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:04:05 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Roland GK cable noise issue From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120555 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:04:06 +0000 (UTC) Thank you, but I'm not using Live at the moment. I may get in touch later though if need for this patch turns up. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Ricky Graham wrote: > It tracks pitch. It's fairly basic at the moment but will continue to > develop it over the next while (probably over the summer at this > point). I can send it on to you, if you like. > > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> Thanks, but driving MIDI instrument is no problem. I send that data >> over a USB cable and don't even need to have the volume up for the GK >> cable's "terror". >> >> Interesting that you are mentioning pitch tracking since that is what >> I normally use instead of the GR-55 :-) Currently only in the AxeFx >> but in the past also in Live and similar apps. I'm subscribing to the >> M4L new patches library but can't recall having seen a "pitch tracker >> to MIDI" patch yet. Is that what your thing does? Or does it track >> analog amplitude directly to synth wave forms? >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.perboysen.com >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Ricky Graham >> wrote: >>> Do you want to drive synths in Live, Per? Might be able to send on a >>> monophonic pitch tracker M4L device for you. Not polyphonic (yet) but >>> a start. Let me know and I will send it on for you to test out. >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >>>> I think the GR-55 has great sounds and they sound even better when >>>> passed through the AxeFx. I only use synths though since I'm not so >>>> happy with the guitar mod/sim stuff. It's just just a matter of taste. >>>> >>>> Per >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:27 PM, mark francombe wrote: >>>>> Question: I know you are using the AxeFX now for guitar sounds, but how can >>>>> you use the guitar cable for using either the VG guitar OR internal effects >>>>> on normal pickup, UNLESS you use the GK cable? There are options for sending >>>>> the normal pickup out of the Guitar out socket, but then its too late right? >>>>> Damage Done? >>>>> >>>>> I too have a regular cable plugged in as well as the GK cable, cos I like to >>>>> use a few stomp boxes, so I have one mixer channel for a more regular guitar >>>>> set-up. But for using any tuning things on the GR55, you are gonna have to >>>>> come down the GK cable? >>>>> >>>>> However in answer to the question, I have had to buy a few GK cables in miy >>>>> time with Roland guitar synths, and I always have one completely new cable >>>>> still packages actually, ready for a break-up, it not like you can borrow >>>>> one off the sound guy can you? >>>>> >>>>> Of course you can JUST use the midi sounds from a guitar synth, but with the >>>>> GR55 you would be missing out more than half the box! >>>>> >>>>> I must say, that its taken me A VERY LONG TIME to get a good sound out of >>>>> it, all the git sims were so terrible, but suddenly now I have got a really >>>>> GREAT basic sound, and have been applying all my special FX to the same >>>>> basic patch, with AWESOME results! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Mark >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Sure, I totally agree with that. I would never send the magnetic >>>>>> pickups through the GK shebang since it degrades the fidelity so much. >>>>>> Only the synth string trigger data to drive synths are sent through >>>>>> that cable here. What's happening here is that when the cable moves >>>>>> synths get triggered just by data generated inside the cable. If you >>>>>> sit absolutely still it is silent but playing in a standing up >>>>>> position is impossible. I have all GR-55 settings correctly set up so >>>>>> it can't be that (using four different global settings each trimmed >>>>>> for a particular instrument's unique scale length and GK mic placement >>>>>> related bridge position for every string). So it has to be the cable, >>>>>> doesn't it? >>>>>> >>>>>> Greetings from Sweden >>>>>> >>>>>> Per Boysen >>>>>> www.perboysen.com >>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Simeon Harris >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> > i had problems with mine when i tried to send the magnetic signal down >>>>>> > it. in the end i used a standard cable for the mags. it's not shielded very >>>>>> > well >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On 19 Mar 2013, at 12:32, Per Boysen wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> >> Hi, >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> I'm experiencing fatal noise issues with the Roland GK cable. If I >>>>>> >> move or touch the cable all hell breaks loose in the PA. Are these >>>>>> >> cables normally this sensitive? >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Greetings from Sweden >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Per Boysen >>>>>> >> www.perboysen.com >>>>>> >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >>>>>> >> >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Mark Francombe >>>>> www.markfrancombe.com >>>>> www.ordoabkhao.com >>>>> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >>>>> http://www.looop.no >>>>> twitter @markfrancombe >>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ >>>> >>> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 19 14:23:02 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9EAAB1834D6; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:23:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CqS5ITBnUizv0CBngU79mjJVy7JTVcIXlNkAnP8iCKA=; b=j77vLoLGpNzQUlE5VkeEM/FSThQtkETIAUBqLFzUJnZ1guaxYTLaRgVUEpmP+C7e/6 yKsAMsou/TO1CLlj6OY9W5x4JoTL+D3JQzUtpYvW+tGp4BTSEoP+bWeAUhj09X5ZOKUC nAhXJIH6qN9AoFA9hK6wjw5FF0b1fVEsSxBJoOMcvrPO+d55Zb7jq5WeGXf28429QcIV 8FkPtVOIsQ7oD/hqnKPuTx7uVV1G5EgnVo+saYTnn/5lerXgGjlRnNVA0PAAe9oTMjXo 5Mj54wrVdqyvnM6S5gigMwWYnsnOcDIK8ylidtwpcyTyjzPc0S+YftHmQZF9L05sKjZh 8XaQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.176.138 with SMTP id ci10mr2326531vdc.35.1363702982152; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 07:23:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1D08FB47-96BA-43C7-9EEE-BE56721C3289@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:23:02 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Roland GK cable noise issue From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120556 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:23:02 +0000 (UTC) No need to continue this thread for my sake here. I have already replaced the GR-55 with a vocal mic input in my rig (wasn't place for both). Per On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Thank you, but I'm not using Live at the moment. I may get in touch > later though if need for this patch turns up. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Ricky Graham > wrote: >> It tracks pitch. It's fairly basic at the moment but will continue to >> develop it over the next while (probably over the summer at this >> point). I can send it on to you, if you like. >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >>> Thanks, but driving MIDI instrument is no problem. I send that data >>> over a USB cable and don't even need to have the volume up for the GK >>> cable's "terror". >>> >>> Interesting that you are mentioning pitch tracking since that is what >>> I normally use instead of the GR-55 :-) Currently only in the AxeFx >>> but in the past also in Live and similar apps. I'm subscribing to the >>> M4L new patches library but can't recall having seen a "pitch tracker >>> to MIDI" patch yet. Is that what your thing does? Or does it track >>> analog amplitude directly to synth wave forms? >>> >>> Greetings from Sweden >>> >>> Per Boysen >>> www.perboysen.com >>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Ricky Graham >>> wrote: >>>> Do you want to drive synths in Live, Per? Might be able to send on a >>>> monophonic pitch tracker M4L device for you. Not polyphonic (yet) but >>>> a start. Let me know and I will send it on for you to test out. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >>>>> I think the GR-55 has great sounds and they sound even better when >>>>> passed through the AxeFx. I only use synths though since I'm not so >>>>> happy with the guitar mod/sim stuff. It's just just a matter of taste. >>>>> >>>>> Per >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:27 PM, mark francombe wrote: >>>>>> Question: I know you are using the AxeFX now for guitar sounds, but how can >>>>>> you use the guitar cable for using either the VG guitar OR internal effects >>>>>> on normal pickup, UNLESS you use the GK cable? There are options for sending >>>>>> the normal pickup out of the Guitar out socket, but then its too late right? >>>>>> Damage Done? >>>>>> >>>>>> I too have a regular cable plugged in as well as the GK cable, cos I like to >>>>>> use a few stomp boxes, so I have one mixer channel for a more regular guitar >>>>>> set-up. But for using any tuning things on the GR55, you are gonna have to >>>>>> come down the GK cable? >>>>>> >>>>>> However in answer to the question, I have had to buy a few GK cables in miy >>>>>> time with Roland guitar synths, and I always have one completely new cable >>>>>> still packages actually, ready for a break-up, it not like you can borrow >>>>>> one off the sound guy can you? >>>>>> >>>>>> Of course you can JUST use the midi sounds from a guitar synth, but with the >>>>>> GR55 you would be missing out more than half the box! >>>>>> >>>>>> I must say, that its taken me A VERY LONG TIME to get a good sound out of >>>>>> it, all the git sims were so terrible, but suddenly now I have got a really >>>>>> GREAT basic sound, and have been applying all my special FX to the same >>>>>> basic patch, with AWESOME results! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sure, I totally agree with that. I would never send the magnetic >>>>>>> pickups through the GK shebang since it degrades the fidelity so much. >>>>>>> Only the synth string trigger data to drive synths are sent through >>>>>>> that cable here. What's happening here is that when the cable moves >>>>>>> synths get triggered just by data generated inside the cable. If you >>>>>>> sit absolutely still it is silent but playing in a standing up >>>>>>> position is impossible. I have all GR-55 settings correctly set up so >>>>>>> it can't be that (using four different global settings each trimmed >>>>>>> for a particular instrument's unique scale length and GK mic placement >>>>>>> related bridge position for every string). So it has to be the cable, >>>>>>> doesn't it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Greetings from Sweden >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Per Boysen >>>>>>> www.perboysen.com >>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Simeon Harris >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> > i had problems with mine when i tried to send the magnetic signal down >>>>>>> > it. in the end i used a standard cable for the mags. it's not shielded very >>>>>>> > well >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > On 19 Mar 2013, at 12:32, Per Boysen wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >> Hi, >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> I'm experiencing fatal noise issues with the Roland GK cable. If I >>>>>>> >> move or touch the cable all hell breaks loose in the PA. Are these >>>>>>> >> cables normally this sensitive? >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Greetings from Sweden >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Per Boysen >>>>>>> >> www.perboysen.com >>>>>>> >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Mark Francombe >>>>>> www.markfrancombe.com >>>>>> www.ordoabkhao.com >>>>>> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >>>>>> http://www.looop.no >>>>>> twitter @markfrancombe >>>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ >>>>> >>>> >>> >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 19 14:42:46 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC0A11834D4; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:42:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=dIr+A5lb c=1 sm=1 a=UncmS/Am0Fgh8c8TZh5eWA==:17 a=xNWzfbQRxM8A:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=XW0sKyY1oZMA:10 a=dMZfGW12AAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=I7f09WrzU7fKocGshZ0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=UncmS/Am0Fgh8c8TZh5eWA==:117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Re: Roland GK cable noise issue From: Ted Killian In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 07:21:14 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120557 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:42:46 +0000 (UTC) Per, Not normally. But like all cables are susceptible to damage of various kinds from = being stepped on or pinched under heavy equipment etc. Try a different cable. If that changes nothing it may be a socket or some other point in the = chain. Normally they area as quiet as most other cables. Ted On Mar 19, 2013, at 5:32 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I'm experiencing fatal noise issues with the Roland GK cable. If I > move or touch the cable all hell breaks loose in the PA. Are these > cables normally this sensitive? >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 19 15:54:51 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 13FF41834D3; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:54:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=f9nhacagFuEutBTBLbSJMEdHjuFKev0bF3JsBkNDMJc=; b=R4t4MQgeUTJ5/GfuZ0kM9ZBUAQ8YmsKWR0O8DFavyD8kHsUNPoLKJdG8T+nKWBKVoP LPUseJE5pfKOKgIwS7L7gXAvaYaGgBytWyUlLVLtSwE/SrLWGNMIllRm6RCF1viNdyxt VU5yQjplO9hjx6sBiVEdTskcIJgPp8fPHPhN2ZsB+5Jqr7VM1PLo/3xThoL1oSipZ5L2 IxsuBFA+SYqZbZZDDkRboDlQYxqEkviOb+PMNuuiE3izNkFS24liiIaISpqjZONhMbeq d5EaZj+uujNq8tKRrgFIYrHG+rlKqu4nEit0p5ob7NXO1ffpTBXs37bxAGN5bWhNhykM zlng== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.45.140 with SMTP id n12mr2405871lam.36.1363708489517; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 08:54:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:54:49 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Roland GK cable noise issue From: bassman To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec55245161850e804d849207e Resent-Message-ID: <0C0dy.A.EpB.KpISRB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120558 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:54:51 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec55245161850e804d849207e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 giving the connections a good cleaning has taken care of that on my cables. On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Ted Killian wrote: > Per, > > Not normally. > > But like all cables are susceptible to damage of various kinds from being > stepped on or pinched under heavy equipment etc. > > Try a different cable. > > If that changes nothing it may be a socket or some other point in the > chain. > > Normally they area as quiet as most other cables. > > Ted > > > On Mar 19, 2013, at 5:32 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I'm experiencing fatal noise issues with the Roland GK cable. If I > > move or touch the cable all hell breaks loose in the PA. Are these > > cables normally this sensitive? > > > > Greetings from Sweden > > > > Per Boysen > > www.perboysen.com > > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > --bcaec55245161850e804d849207e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable giving the connections a good cleaning has taken care of that on my cables.=

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Ted Ki= llian <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
Per,

Not normally.

But like all cables are susceptible to damage of various kinds from being s= tepped on or pinched under heavy equipment etc.

Try a different cable.

If that changes nothing it may be a socket or some other point in the chain= .

Normally they area as quiet as most other cables.

Ted


On Mar 19, 2013, at 5:32 AM, Per Boysen wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm experiencing fatal noise issues with the Roland GK cable. If I=
> move or touch the cable all hell breaks loose in the PA. Are these
> cables normally this sensitive?
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.perboysen.c= om
> http://= www.youtube.com/perboysen


--bcaec55245161850e804d849207e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 19 23:24:45 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4DF301834CF; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 23:24:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=rKEdFes/Fs2Smuz+22HBE8eX4pmxEFdc45NSoSrBIb1z/Hcbea8udgZ3dzY8/a9x; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <30973058.1363735484660.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 18:24:44 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Grant Reply-To: Grant To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Roland GK cable noise issue Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 X-ELNK-Trace: 4627597e215714c3ca853a8129e90869f402879cecb40bd5b19bfb661148d67db32c3d4ac45f1adf892e2cd035b31e3f350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.29 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120559 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 23:24:45 +0000 (UTC)

This has been my experience too. I use some quality contact spray (on both the plug and receptacle) routinely and it generally keeps the problems at bay for quite a while. I believe I also bought some Planet Waves cables (which seem well made) and have even replaced the contacts in the GK units with gold-plated versions. Good contact spray, and frequent cleaning, is essential from my experience.

 

G

-----Original Message-----
From: bassman
Sent: Mar 19, 2013 10:54 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Roland GK cable noise issue

giving the connections a good cleaning has taken care of that on my cables.

From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 20 00:01:56 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CDCF1834D2; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:01:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5148FC72.80409@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 17:01:54 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: andy butler , "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Re: Electro-harmonic Superego Now: For Sale References: <5146DDEF.9020305@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5146DDEF.9020305@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120560 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:01:56 +0000 (UTC) I have read all the downsides to this pedal. I'm really interested in noise and am not a guitar player, per se. What does the Super Ego do that the Freeze doesn't do, out of curiosity. For merely manipulating noise, is this a hip pedal? I already own a Freeze and contemplated buying a second one as I could add processed drones to non-processed drone to good effect in the 'music' that I do. Rick Walker ps and what are you selling this for, including shipping, Dennis (if you haven't already sold it) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 20 01:34:10 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 763BF1834D3; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 01:34:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3602 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 01:34:10 UTC Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:33:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Dan Ash To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <27581477.2273853.1363739634439.JavaMail.root@vznit170158> Subject: Re: Roland GK cable noise issue MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Verizon Webmail X-Originating-IP: [72.68.218.3] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120561 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 01:34:10 +0000 (UTC)
Sad to say, the GK cables don't hold up very well over time.   I've replaced it several times, and this always seems to resolve the snap, crackle and pop, albeit temporarily.

I use an aerosol container of contact cleaner from time to time and this helps.  Also, I always secure the cable in the guitar strap and at the connection to the synth (I'm using the Terratec Axon AX100 MKII).

I was pleased to find that the 13-pin cables can be purchased on ebay for much less than at any of the retail outlets.

Dan Ash

From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 20 01:47:56 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9005F1834D6; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 01:47:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:content-type:subject:message-id:date:to :mime-version:x-mailer; bh=P71PqoRZBK2PvZ8ylSOs/s0frMZKu2uA8DrMEBCbAAk=; b=dHNlsKeAV/8a3R35rzxXiRZdy3fXMh2CfiukYOxIi1mCPhs+JA8v4RqCNioIxN3VtW 9VVvdOxV+Jh4HBXQeBk3L0ImWBm4fiehy+YX3jkVKol3A68teTi6NAxn7d+5VcDfcoc4 QI1cI8+B1QH0oW+VKJshSzzMnXHxA3vwUZvQT+MRV2GW1goYTmNJlFMLbqJPNhRHuaPM fjTYrsq3mzSElq15Vv32IJ3Ht6OuJhInD/TBfdAV6rIq7qx+DN1cd8JgrG6gtOSIbO/P 7DXeyIWWT+osQ2V0SzAJ/BYTV7ykFWiFoFAmbiBVakv1XRVwR3LdSKwPApyhZCMIQLHn y9iA== X-Received: by 10.68.217.202 with SMTP id pa10mr6495715pbc.11.1363744075539; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 18:47:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Pier Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_8F54F6FB-D8EE-44F3-9F65-0300CFAEC0A6" Subject: TF Looper - new looping app in the App Store Message-Id: <39FE16F9-903E-40CB-8E8D-0532A5AE37AC@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:47:50 +0800 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120562 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 01:47:56 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_8F54F6FB-D8EE-44F3-9F65-0300CFAEC0A6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi,=20 I'm Pier, developer of TF Looper, a looping app for iOS that is closer = in workflow to the hardware loopers than other apps.=20 I'm posting here as I think this app might be of interest to the folks = here. I have 5 promo codes to give away, so if you're interested email = me and I'll pass you the promo code :) https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/tf-looper/id617839179?ls=3D1&mt=3D8 Inspired from hardware looping pedals, TF Looper aims to make looping = fun and easy! Great for impromptu jams without the need to "plan" = anything in advance. Works standalone or with input devices such as = Apogee Jam for better sound. =E2=9C=93 Low-latency sound engine makes looping a breeze =E2=9C=93 Straight-forward workflow and interface akin to dedicated = hardware loopers =E2=9C=93 Undo functionality =E2=9C=93 Trigger recording on input for easier recording of instruments =E2=9C=93 Automatic quantisation of loops for fuss-free recording =E2=9C=93 Unlimited overdubbing for expressive looping =E2=9C=93 Fade previous overdubs option to create a continuous looping = soundscape =E2=9C=93 Octave-down and octave-up on individual channels =E2=9C=93 Stop tracks anytime, play them again and they will synchronise = to other tracks in perfect time =E2=9C=93 Included limiter and noise reduction=20 =E2=9C=93 Stop-all channels / Start-all channels function - great for = breaking it down! Have a good day.=20 Thanks.=20 Pier. --Apple-Mail=_8F54F6FB-D8EE-44F3-9F65-0300CFAEC0A6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Hi, 

I'm = Pier, developer of TF Looper, a looping app for iOS that is closer in = workflow to the hardware loopers than other apps. 
I'm = posting here as I think this app might be of interest to the folks here. = I have 5 promo codes to give away, so if you're interested = email me and I'll pass you the promo code :)



Inspired from = hardware looping pedals, TF Looper aims to make looping fun and easy! = Great for impromptu jams without the need to "plan" anything in advance. = Works standalone or with input devices such as Apogee Jam for better = sound.

=E2=9C=93 Low-latency = sound engine makes looping a breeze
=E2=9C=93 = Straight-forward workflow and interface akin to dedicated hardware = loopers
=E2=9C=93 Undo = functionality
=E2=9C=93 Trigger recording on = input for easier recording of instruments
=E2=9C=93 Automatic quantisation of loops for fuss-free = recording
=E2=9C=93 Unlimited overdubbing = for expressive looping
=E2=9C=93 Fade previous = overdubs option to create a continuous looping soundscape
=E2=9C=93 Octave-down and octave-up on individual = channels
=E2=9C=93 Stop tracks anytime, = play them again and they will synchronise to other tracks in perfect = time
=E2=9C=93 Included limiter and noise = reduction 
=E2=9C=93 Stop-all = channels / Start-all channels function - great for breaking it = down!

= --Apple-Mail=_8F54F6FB-D8EE-44F3-9F65-0300CFAEC0A6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 20 01:59:11 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB0B51834CD; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 01:59:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer :in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version; bh=2fk/awVdY3P+jBp+KlekSaD4bNInW2b4quCntBYGS88=; b=acqdmlJbnnfq6Kgs0cnQC8GTaLZGACNEc3+Xb8AUmp1eFgcrFvr13RWVErWk4+7S3l BqoH22CI3+/cyeDDyNX/Sv0TntBL4bStbh5Geu1rDFYX2WVot0yKvvIrVllWtibJ/bqT 8+BPgkkWWqbG+2aH+4O8G8Jq848vID/0XkzEM7x8YYlx6o6+ap9ZKLRUQGekjYX2eto4 HxGRhftjMYpHaDP/3SKUkws157b5zHDet3y6QnYnth6bhGHUy0JHwnN7Af+Lvxe5ZbQP q23QVnRzctbJSDcGXVXY350PQ/FXBvrOftJUkCa7VXt336dXiniyU08dYBxkkDao8y49 PeOQ== X-Received: by 10.68.230.193 with SMTP id ta1mr6387348pbc.103.1363744750803; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 18:59:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: TF Looper - new looping app in the App Store References: <39FE16F9-903E-40CB-8E8D-0532A5AE37AC@gmail.com> From: Christopher Darrow Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-EA7CAB1B-0BCA-4016-9EED-C4506961F07D X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10A523) In-Reply-To: <39FE16F9-903E-40CB-8E8D-0532A5AE37AC@gmail.com> Message-Id: Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 18:59:06 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120563 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 01:59:11 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-EA7CAB1B-0BCA-4016-9EED-C4506961F07D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would love one if still available! Thank you for developing!=20 ---Christopher Darrow 503.327.9329 On Mar 19, 2013, at 6:47 PM, Pier wrote: > Hi,=20 >=20 > I'm Pier, developer of TF Looper, a looping app for iOS that is closer in w= orkflow to the hardware loopers than other apps.=20 > I'm posting here as I think this app might be of interest to the folks her= e. I have 5 promo codes to give away, so if you're interested email me and I= 'll pass you the promo code :) >=20 > https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/tf-looper/id617839179?ls=3D1&mt=3D8 >=20 >=20 > Inspired from hardware looping pedals, TF Looper aims to make looping fun a= nd easy! Great for impromptu jams without the need to "plan" anything in adv= ance. Works standalone or with input devices such as Apogee Jam for better s= ound. >=20 > =E2=9C=93 Low-latency sound engine makes looping a breeze > =E2=9C=93 Straight-forward workflow and interface akin to dedicated hardwa= re loopers > =E2=9C=93 Undo functionality > =E2=9C=93 Trigger recording on input for easier recording of instruments > =E2=9C=93 Automatic quantisation of loops for fuss-free recording > =E2=9C=93 Unlimited overdubbing for expressive looping > =E2=9C=93 Fade previous overdubs option to create a continuous looping sou= ndscape > =E2=9C=93 Octave-down and octave-up on individual channels > =E2=9C=93 Stop tracks anytime, play them again and they will synchronise t= o other tracks in perfect time > =E2=9C=93 Included limiter and noise reduction=20 > =E2=9C=93 Stop-all channels / Start-all channels function - great for brea= king it down! >=20 > Have a good day.=20 > Thanks.=20 >=20 > Pier. >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-EA7CAB1B-0BCA-4016-9EED-C4506961F07D Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I would love one if still availabl= e! Thank you for developing! 

---Christopher Darrow
       503.327.9329

On Mar 19, 20= 13, at 6:47 PM, Pier <madstrum@gmai= l.com> wrote:

Hi, 

I'm Pier, developer of= TF Looper, a looping app for iOS that is closer in workflow to the hardware= loopers than other apps. 
I'm posting here as I think this a= pp might be of interest to the folks here. I have 5 promo codes to giv= e away, so if you're interested email me and I'll pass you the promo= code :)



Inspi= red from hardware looping pedals, TF Looper aims to make looping fun and eas= y! Great for impromptu jams without the need to "plan" anything in advance. W= orks standalone or with input devices such as Apogee Jam for better sound.

=E2=9C=93 Low-latency sound engi= ne makes looping a breeze
=E2=9C=93 Straight-forward workflow and interface akin to dedicated h= ardware loopers
=E2= =9C=93 Undo functionality
=E2=9C=93 Trigger recording on input for easier recording of instrume= nts
=E2=9C=93 Auto= matic quantisation of loops for fuss-free recording
=E2=9C=93 Unlimited overdubbing for express= ive looping
=E2=9C= =93 Fade previous overdubs option to create a continuous looping soundscape<= /span>
=E2=9C=93 Octave-do= wn and octave-up on individual channels
=E2=9C=93 Stop tracks anytime, play them again and they= will synchronise to other tracks in perfect time
=E2=9C=93 Included limiter and noise reductio= n 
= =E2=9C=93 S= top-all channels / Start-all channels function - great for breaking it down!=

Have a good day.=  
Thanks. 

Pier.


= --Apple-Mail-EA7CAB1B-0BCA-4016-9EED-C4506961F07D-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 20 02:07:02 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC2711834D2; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 02:07:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=LSdCQCPelQNtKZDUbkcL2RapHUXokKj//ZnT/fMdWGo=; b=wMDwwkDT1+y28hTP3XivWVsm+xeSjzsTRUZX6UlCQP5G1KL1vJyC/8+Fz+Hj2okV/D HwQK6UFUikuKkuJD7+kZguJHMWna6eTJ6AJwopI7Jmoi0zi4sa9MW+1on7BrTYNBQHRc dYkesrnZ3FMRm3OaKIAgrmPGJIj4J0TyX/Jv25VggFYyrJ0HUAbgD4IEJSWScuALRBqc grYmfVaezx5IpwTckvsS74HWC2uF2gYh42NbtRFjC4k4kECKwuqZurrTZ371ZG43xev/ nAunvWMhkt1GuHpKn0t7bNeLexqJLhIsjxhdv7d29LwxPliTotIyrBTL2eQ0sAMm6nuc 5Yug== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.80.35 with SMTP id o3mr711376wix.9.1363745221660; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:07:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:07:01 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: My iOS developers wish: Mini Ableton From: Art Simon To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d044287f28054f304d851ad9c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120564 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 02:07:02 +0000 (UTC) --f46d044287f28054f304d851ad9c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Pier's post reminded me that what most iOS loopers lack is an easy way to sync to a rhythm track. My iOS wish would be looper that allows me to load 3 or 4 rhythm loops and then to build up a sound on sound loop while switching through those few pre-loaded rhythm loops. Could be just 4 big buttons that I could tap while looping. Just a thought. -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com --f46d044287f28054f304d851ad9c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pier's post reminded me that what most iOS loopers lack is an easy way = to sync to a rhythm track. My iOS wish would be looper that allows me to lo= ad 3 or 4 rhythm loops and then to build up a sound on sound loop while swi= tching through those few pre-loaded rhythm loops. Could be just 4 big butto= ns that I could tap while looping. Just a thought.

--
Art Simon
simart@gmail.com
--f46d044287f28054f304d851ad9c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 20 10:21:09 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B7B1C1834D3; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 10:21:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9DfT1Vihu9l4FEkREVAqDAM52EkwZPY4p34kwJANEgU=; b=ohbmReQ4m2+NitykEEhYQ9xBoqHAzgevz92FLQl11Qg4B7G+S9RicvF7rV4b+pfJ93 jW2r/Yb8uJs7QAqcjklVRVuLGLm9xKrP70bm/gRjv+Mp12JX4QpP2AvRVCl+N9UzgiOi Zu1j68FhNM7XWPFwdjA1NHQt3f6a/BeiCUxvbpnn7lwv85obTBGVO+qbROFXMISW/OZ8 Q/W7qKxlNezk3MEJJqsfGV8HJBi2cT0ESXwNpSTwb9gKfXPKnojxh8Yau7MU/5C8KGYG p0zRIPalki60DkkrZnGElc8uax7P5dwfefZDjvXZGCgVxkkuZkO/4QGWuo4jxcS2WYc1 7W7A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.205.43.133 with SMTP id uc5mr10370337bkb.22.1363774868267; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 03:21:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <39FE16F9-903E-40CB-8E8D-0532A5AE37AC@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 18:21:08 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: TF Looper - new looping app in the App Store From: abd halimski To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec52bf01d93d9e004d85894be Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120565 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 10:21:09 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec52bf01d93d9e004d85894be Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable want! :D On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Christopher Darrow wr= ote: > > I would love one if still available! Thank you for developing! > > ---Christopher Darrow > 503.327.9329 > > On Mar 19, 2013, at 6:47 PM, Pier wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm Pier, developer of TF Looper, a looping app for iOS that is closer in > workflow to the hardware loopers than other apps. > I'm posting here as I think this app might be of interest to the folks > here. *I have 5 promo codes to give away*, so if you're interested email > me and I'll pass you the promo code :) > > https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/tf-looper/id617839179?ls=3D1&mt=3D8 > > > Inspired from hardware looping pedals, TF Looper aims to make looping fun > and easy! Great for impromptu jams without the need to "plan" anything in > advance. Works standalone or with input devices such as Apogee Jam for > better sound. > > =E2=9C=93 Low-latency sound engine makes looping a breeze > =E2=9C=93 Straight-forward workflow and interface akin to dedicated hardw= are > loopers > =E2=9C=93 Undo functionality > =E2=9C=93 Trigger recording on input for easier recording of instruments > =E2=9C=93 Automatic quantisation of loops for fuss-free recording > =E2=9C=93 Unlimited overdubbing for expressive looping > =E2=9C=93 Fade previous overdubs option to create a continuous looping so= undscape > =E2=9C=93 Octave-down and octave-up on individual channels > =E2=9C=93 Stop tracks anytime, play them again and they will synchronise = to other > tracks in perfect time > =E2=9C=93 Included limiter and noise reduction > =E2=9C=93 Stop-all channels / Start-all channels function - great for bre= aking it > down! > > Have a good day. > Thanks. > > Pier. > > > --bcaec52bf01d93d9e004d85894be Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable want! :D

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 9:59 AM,= Christopher Darrow <thedarrow@gmail.com> wrote:

I would love one if still available! Thank you f= or developing!=C2=A0

=
---Christopher Darrow
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0503.327.932= 9

On Mar 19, 2013, at 6:47 PM, Pier <madstrum@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:

Hi,=C2=A0
I'm Pier, developer of TF Looper, a looping app for iOS that is cl= oser in workflow to the hardware loopers than other apps.=C2=A0
I= 'm posting here as I think this app might be of interest to the folks h= ere. I have 5 promo codes to give away, so if you're inte= rested email me and I'll pass you the promo code :)


Inspired from hardware looping pedals, TF = Looper aims to make looping fun and easy! Great for impromptu jams without = the need to "plan" anything in advance. Works standalone or with = input devices such as Apogee Jam for better sound.

=E2=9C=93 Low-latency= sound engine makes looping a breeze
=E2=9C=93 Straight-forward workflow and interfa= ce akin to dedicated hardware loopers
=E2=9C=93 Undo functionality
=E2=9C=93 Trigger recording on input for easier= recording of instruments
=E2=9C=93 Automatic quantisation of loops for f= uss-free recording
=E2=9C=93 Unlimited overdubbing for expressive = looping
=E2=9C=93 Fade previous overdubs option to crea= te a continuous looping soundscape
=E2=9C=93 Octave-down and octave-up on individu= al channels
=E2=9C=93 Stop tracks anytime, play them again = and they will synchronise to other tracks in perfect time
=E2=9C=93 Included limiter and noise reduction= =C2=A0
=E2=9C=93 Stop-all channels / Start-all channel= s function - great for breaking it down!

Have a good day.=C2=A0
Thanks.=C2=A0

Pier.



--bcaec52bf01d93d9e004d85894be-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 20 10:37:50 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29CA31834D2; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 10:37:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer :in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version; bh=GKa1uvzDaV6cNYCZYVV17beUHVe2FZruGe6HCcjjRiI=; b=eLC2G35Tqrd/C6UkiR9vmZFUl2ee688tXaLbW3+yHzoDEze5pMGjjUAupQHss+mQbJ BEOUlSlIx21xSlxPuwHa+aa9k2IcjGItFtteTahv+O//zgbBEX/hPWFgqsllBmP4Qy98 8EdkkPR7B4iZPupnsomqO7bmR4zyv005Q+7BIdwLYKGki/x/sdPjf1MWlFG09oQglp5s plj+CYvjVnIiHDEpvUAQMKVBQYn/K2qMvUajtGQ9R4RfTIkOThhLq5C+OKN8tc48JxfU sNVILDmovNKXvYbvnh7hbtgdjlK0mTQZ+y1IUH1zikY4cOycOoXRoGcFV0MABiRaGzAl bsgw== X-Received: by 10.66.120.99 with SMTP id lb3mr8277248pab.173.1363775868876; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 03:37:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: TF Looper - new looping app in the App Store References: <39FE16F9-903E-40CB-8E8D-0532A5AE37AC@gmail.com> From: Pier Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-A64B32FE-FA64-44BF-AB90-B8E31C0F999A X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10B329) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 18:29:41 +0800 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120566 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 10:37:50 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-A64B32FE-FA64-44BF-AB90-B8E31C0F999A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sent from my iPhone On 20 Mar, 2013, at 6:21 PM, abd halimski wrote: > want! :D >=20 > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Christopher Darrow w= rote: >>=20 >> I would love one if still available! Thank you for developing!=20 >>=20 >> ---Christopher Darrow >> 503.327.9329 >>=20 >> On Mar 19, 2013, at 6:47 PM, Pier wrote: >>=20 >>> Hi,=20 >>>=20 >>> I'm Pier, developer of TF Looper, a looping app for iOS that is closer i= n workflow to the hardware loopers than other apps.=20 >>> I'm posting here as I think this app might be of interest to the folks h= ere. I have 5 promo codes to give away, so if you're interested email me and= I'll pass you the promo code :) >>>=20 >>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/tf-looper/id617839179?ls=3D1&mt=3D8 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Inspired from hardware looping pedals, TF Looper aims to make looping fu= n and easy! Great for impromptu jams without the need to "plan" anything in a= dvance. Works standalone or with input devices such as Apogee Jam for better= sound. >>>=20 >>> =E2=9C=93 Low-latency sound engine makes looping a breeze >>> =E2=9C=93 Straight-forward workflow and interface akin to dedicated hard= ware loopers >>> =E2=9C=93 Undo functionality >>> =E2=9C=93 Trigger recording on input for easier recording of instruments= >>> =E2=9C=93 Automatic quantisation of loops for fuss-free recording >>> =E2=9C=93 Unlimited overdubbing for expressive looping >>> =E2=9C=93 Fade previous overdubs option to create a continuous looping s= oundscape >>> =E2=9C=93 Octave-down and octave-up on individual channels >>> =E2=9C=93 Stop tracks anytime, play them again and they will synchronise= to other tracks in perfect time >>> =E2=9C=93 Included limiter and noise reduction=20 >>> =E2=9C=93 Stop-all channels / Start-all channels function - great for br= eaking it down! >>>=20 >>> Have a good day.=20 >>> Thanks.=20 >>>=20 >>> Pier. >=20 --Apple-Mail-A64B32FE-FA64-44BF-AB90-B8E31C0F999A Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


Sent from my iPhone
=
On 20 Mar, 2013, at 6:21 PM, abd halimski <halimzainal@gmail.com> wrote:

want! :D

On Wed, Mar 2= 0, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Christopher Darrow <thedarrow@gmail.com>= wrote:

I would love one if still available! Thank you fo= r developing! 

---Christopher Darrow
       503.327.9329

On Mar 19, 2013, at 6:47 PM, Pier <madstrum@gmail.com>= wrote:

Hi, 
=
I'm Pier, developer of TF Looper, a looping app for iOS that is closer i= n workflow to the hardware loopers than other apps. 
I'm post= ing here as I think this app might be of interest to the folks here. I= have 5 promo codes to give away, so if you're interested email me a= nd I'll pass you the promo code :)



<= /div>
Inspired from hardware looping pedals, TF Looper aims to make= looping fun and easy! Great for impromptu jams without the need to "plan" a= nything in advance. Works standalone or with input devices such as Apogee Ja= m for better sound.

=E2=9C=93 Low-latency sound engine makes looping a breeze<= /span>
=E2=9C=93 Straight-forward workflow and interface akin to dedicate= d hardware loopers
=E2=9C=93 Undo functionality
=E2=9C=93 Trigger recording on input for easier recording of instr= uments
=E2=9C=93 Automatic quantisation of loops for fuss-free recording<= /span>
=E2=9C=93 Unlimited overdubbing for expressive looping
=E2=9C=93 Fade previous overdubs option to create a continuous loo= ping soundscape
=E2=9C=93 Octave-down and octave-up on individual channels<= br style=3D"line-height:18px;text-align:left;color:rgb(137,137,137);font-siz= e:12px;font-family:'Lucida Grande','Lucida Sans Unicode',Arial,Verdana,sans-= serif"> =E2=9C=93 Stop tracks anytime, play them again and they will synch= ronise to other tracks in perfect time
=E2=9C=93 Included limiter and noise reduction 
=E2=9C=93 Stop-all channels / Start-all channels function - great f= or breaking it down!

Have a good day. 
T= hanks. 

Pier.



= --Apple-Mail-A64B32FE-FA64-44BF-AB90-B8E31C0F999A-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 20 12:31:33 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E68921834CF; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:31:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5149AC2C.5080407@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 13:31:40 +0100 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Roland GK cable noise issue References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120567 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:31:33 +0000 (UTC) I don't know too much about the GK system, but I'm thinking.. You have an ordinary guitar cable, which of course is shielded, with the shield connected to ground/chassis on your rig (whatever that is). The shield is also (assumed) connected to ground on you guitar. Then you have this GK cable, which is said to have crappy shielding. Maybe, maybe not, but I assume it actually does have a shield, which is hopefully connected to ground/chassis on the (GK) device, plus, I assume, connected to ground on your guitar, which could easily create a ground-loop. Even if your GK cable isn't connected to ground on your guitar - is this one of those stand-alone, between-bridge-and-pickup hex MIDI/synth transducers? - it could well be that if the GK cable in itself has less optimal (shielding) quality, a ground-loop elsewhere in your rig setup could still amplify whatever noice is picked-up, and create the experienced problem. If the problem really is the GK cable itself, couldn't you simply replace the multicore cable between the two bulky connectors with a better shielded one? /van Per Boysen wrote: > Hi, > > I'm experiencing fatal noise issues with the Roland GK cable. If I > move or touch the cable all hell breaks loose in the PA. Are these > cables normally this sensitive? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 20 12:31:53 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25CAB1834D0; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:31:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 479 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:31:52 UTC X-EIP: [dDbpU1wBe4LdrAA//ym9C3FmYzwvSm5E] X-Originating-Email: [phillwilson@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_5b35bf4f-5a54-4a6e-bbde-c3b0c75f838e_" From: phillip wilson To: "loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com" , "madstrum@gmail.com" Subject: RE: TF Looper - new looping app in the App 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2013 12:54:08 +0000 (UTC) Good logica thinking, van, but in my case there this GK cable isn't even sending audio - only data to from strings pitch reading. But you could send also audio through this cable and I assume that's the weak point causing its fragility. I was looking for a shorter cable but could only find the 5 meter long one in the shops. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 1:31 PM, van Sinn wrote: > I don't know too much about the GK system, but I'm thinking.. > > You have an ordinary guitar cable, which of course is shielded, with the > shield connected to ground/chassis on your rig (whatever that is). > The shield is also (assumed) connected to ground on you guitar. > > Then you have this GK cable, which is said to have crappy shielding. > Maybe, maybe not, but I assume it actually does have a shield, which is > hopefully connected to ground/chassis on the (GK) device, plus, I assume, > connected to ground on your guitar, which could easily create a ground-loop. > > Even if your GK cable isn't connected to ground on your guitar - is this one > of those stand-alone, between-bridge-and-pickup hex MIDI/synth transducers? > - it could well be that if the GK cable in itself has less optimal > (shielding) quality, a ground-loop elsewhere in your rig setup could still > amplify whatever noice is picked-up, and create the experienced problem. > > If the problem really is the GK cable itself, couldn't you simply replace > the multicore cable between the two bulky connectors with a better shielded > one? > > /van > > > Per Boysen wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I'm experiencing fatal noise issues with the Roland GK cable. If I >> move or touch the cable all hell breaks loose in the PA. Are these >> cables normally this sensitive? >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.perboysen.com >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > > -- > rgds, > van Sinn > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 20 13:55:16 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C66D81834D0; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 13:55:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject :references:from:mime-version:in-reply-to:message-id:date:cc:to :x-mailer; bh=f8hqUojafupeoN1Xq8/NadAI7jEVARYEdsBo9xNbFFg=; b=m5bjQ1XJaNK3WyvpOdcdqXgslLUEhwUczgQp1g/+QUy61z+G36BsKxTrDlO93zqOey 0J3IomKWukdynyjEExereIossfMgvOue88d7FvO6FvVgod9S2MuoHuNFOx4+DP51Gr1/ Jo6pbW7bj+E7I+BgxJPJuYaLV+SzSHSRjmRNV4IMMR/J/akpjozLk6gJeRHVIePls+uu tuM3aCpPkjkRNIxZR4TydiW6f4M7XdZTgX3sTs95tUVD3lv4DLYb3wZWYZ+HPK2q6Lkx 1JiBmNIUrKlsi7MHtiKHbDtAHyxJ46EfMOXBlK4YikVDqPNsOTiAcqZu45c0g9dTmgHO qX7A== X-Received: by 10.66.116.239 with SMTP id jz15mr9403523pab.132.1363787715497; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 06:55:15 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-0E3AED75-529A-4936-B5E1-92FD4DD2CDC0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TF Looper - new looping app in the App Store References: <39FE16F9-903E-40CB-8E8D-0532A5AE37AC@gmail.com> From: Pier Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <3E274495-8EB0-4564-B561-7D2E8D5FF95F@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 21:27:27 +0800 Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10B329) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120570 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 13:55:16 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-0E3AED75-529A-4936-B5E1-92FD4DD2CDC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,=20 The 5 promo codes have been given away. Thanks guys for your interest. Pier. Sent from my iPhone On 20 Mar, 2013, at 6:21 PM, abd halimski wrote: > want! :D >=20 > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Christopher Darrow w= rote: >>=20 >> I would love one if still available! Thank you for developing!=20 >>=20 >> ---Christopher Darrow >> 503.327.9329 >>=20 >> On Mar 19, 2013, at 6:47 PM, Pier wrote: >>=20 >>> Hi,=20 >>>=20 >>> I'm Pier, developer of TF Looper, a looping app for iOS that is closer i= n workflow to the hardware loopers than other apps.=20 >>> I'm posting here as I think this app might be of interest to the folks h= ere. I have 5 promo codes to give away, so if you're interested email me and= I'll pass you the promo code :) >>>=20 >>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/tf-looper/id617839179?ls=3D1&mt=3D8 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Inspired from hardware looping pedals, TF Looper aims to make looping fu= n and easy! Great for impromptu jams without the need to "plan" anything in a= dvance. Works standalone or with input devices such as Apogee Jam for better= sound. >>>=20 >>> =E2=9C=93 Low-latency sound engine makes looping a breeze >>> =E2=9C=93 Straight-forward workflow and interface akin to dedicated hard= ware loopers >>> =E2=9C=93 Undo functionality >>> =E2=9C=93 Trigger recording on input for easier recording of instruments= >>> =E2=9C=93 Automatic quantisation of loops for fuss-free recording >>> =E2=9C=93 Unlimited overdubbing for expressive looping >>> =E2=9C=93 Fade previous overdubs option to create a continuous looping s= oundscape >>> =E2=9C=93 Octave-down and octave-up on individual channels >>> =E2=9C=93 Stop tracks anytime, play them again and they will synchronise= to other tracks in perfect time >>> =E2=9C=93 Included limiter and noise reduction=20 >>> =E2=9C=93 Stop-all channels / Start-all channels function - great for br= eaking it down! >>>=20 >>> Have a good day.=20 >>> Thanks.=20 >>>=20 >>> Pier. >=20 --Apple-Mail-0E3AED75-529A-4936-B5E1-92FD4DD2CDC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi, 

The= 5 promo codes have been given away. Thanks guys for your interest.

Pier.

Sent from my iPhone

On 20 Mar, 2= 013, at 6:21 PM, abd halimski <h= alimzainal@gmail.com> wrote:

<= div>want! :D

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 9:59 A= M, Christopher Darrow <thedarrow@gmail.com> wrote:

I would love one if still available! Thank you fo= r developing! 

---Christopher Darrow
       503.327.9329

On Mar 19, 2013, at 6:47 PM, Pier <madstrum@gmail.com>= wrote:

Hi, 
=
I'm Pier, developer of TF Looper, a looping app for iOS that is closer i= n workflow to the hardware loopers than other apps. 
I'm post= ing here as I think this app might be of interest to the folks here. I= have 5 promo codes to give away, so if you're interested email me a= nd I'll pass you the promo code :)



<= /div>
Inspired from hardware looping pedals, TF Looper aims to make= looping fun and easy! Great for impromptu jams without the need to "plan" a= nything in advance. Works standalone or with input devices such as Apogee Ja= m for better sound.

=E2=9C=93 Low-latency sound engine makes looping a breeze<= /span>
=E2=9C=93 Straight-forward workflow and interface akin to dedicate= d hardware loopers
=E2=9C=93 Undo functionality
=E2=9C=93 Trigger recording on input for easier recording of instr= uments
=E2=9C=93 Automatic quantisation of loops for fuss-free recording<= /span>
=E2=9C=93 Unlimited overdubbing for expressive looping
=E2=9C=93 Fade previous overdubs option to create a continuous loo= ping soundscape
=E2=9C=93 Octave-down and octave-up on individual channels<= br style=3D"line-height:18px;text-align:left;color:rgb(137,137,137);font-siz= e:12px;font-family:'Lucida Grande','Lucida Sans Unicode',Arial,Verdana,sans-= serif"> =E2=9C=93 Stop tracks anytime, play them again and they will synch= ronise to other tracks in perfect time
=E2=9C=93 Included limiter and noise reduction 
=E2=9C=93 Stop-all channels / Start-all channels function - great f= or breaking it down!

Have a good day. 
T= hanks. 

Pier.



= --Apple-Mail-0E3AED75-529A-4936-B5E1-92FD4DD2CDC0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 20 14:00:54 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD6C71834D5; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 14:00:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hKGbdyujw/F3ChQ4zz6vEk2+hj0E0wTmWzMuFhpqidA=; b=VZZmyDuxIBn4sMzl6Xy//UaKiZB/lFtd9KKyU3rSxQyg4KUbHQV8sjZkbXzAHb4ZRA EMwb5emv1g0IFc1KUMbc1RAJdaGEs4Cqg8jGRsPvlri86YpR6BVVJkbERm0pT5gnlbDG wErw0bRpcmhK2U9XVwJJ256dp+RoZda5tpb3WxeAqf3iIQTmp5Vs7DEr/kbxMeq2b41Y smZFijVxg2U1go59tBTikyAk6n94hQfI7in2+7My+f8HacW0QmJcfsYF8GKWKsFWE390 YFTSOaZODzBvZhRCV8g2fvCxV1ozG+Cexp5IW8eop95OnVrOT7+YNnQg9VKE23TRHhUS xxqQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.14.204.195 with SMTP id h43mr43993044eeo.14.1363788052746; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 07:00:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3E274495-8EB0-4564-B561-7D2E8D5FF95F@gmail.com> References: <39FE16F9-903E-40CB-8E8D-0532A5AE37AC@gmail.com> <3E274495-8EB0-4564-B561-7D2E8D5FF95F@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 10:00:52 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: TF Looper - new looping app in the App Store From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3438ae6f020604d85ba6ee Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120571 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 14:00:54 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b3438ae6f020604d85ba6ee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pier okay. In the interim I looked at the preview and looks positive. I will probably buy. Thanks for introducing yourself to LD. Jim On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Pier wrote: > Hi, > > The 5 promo codes have been given away. Thanks guys for your interest. > > Pier. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 20 Mar, 2013, at 6:21 PM, abd halimski wrote: > > want! :D > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Christopher Darrow = wrote: > >> >> I would love one if still available! Thank you for developing! >> >> ---Christopher Darrow >> 503.327.9329 >> >> On Mar 19, 2013, at 6:47 PM, Pier wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I'm Pier, developer of TF Looper, a looping app for iOS that is closer i= n >> workflow to the hardware loopers than other apps. >> I'm posting here as I think this app might be of interest to the folks >> here. *I have 5 promo codes to give away*, so if you're interested email >> me and I'll pass you the promo code :) >> >> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/tf-looper/id617839179?ls=3D1&mt=3D8 >> >> >> Inspired from hardware looping pedals, TF Looper aims to make looping fu= n >> and easy! Great for impromptu jams without the need to "plan" anything i= n >> advance. Works standalone or with input devices such as Apogee Jam for >> better sound. >> >> =E2=9C=93 Low-latency sound engine makes looping a breeze >> =E2=9C=93 Straight-forward workflow and interface akin to dedicated hard= ware >> loopers >> =E2=9C=93 Undo functionality >> =E2=9C=93 Trigger recording on input for easier recording of instruments >> =E2=9C=93 Automatic quantisation of loops for fuss-free recording >> =E2=9C=93 Unlimited overdubbing for expressive looping >> =E2=9C=93 Fade previous overdubs option to create a continuous looping s= oundscape >> =E2=9C=93 Octave-down and octave-up on individual channels >> =E2=9C=93 Stop tracks anytime, play them again and they will synchronise= to other >> tracks in perfect time >> =E2=9C=93 Included limiter and noise reduction >> =E2=9C=93 Stop-all channels / Start-all channels function - great for br= eaking it >> down! >> >> Have a good day. >> Thanks. >> >> Pier. >> >> >> > --=20 --=20 *jimgoodin.com* - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive minimalism' *The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music* - 'Organically inspired New Music' *From Brooklyn To Glindran *, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=C3=B6rn. Proceeds f= rom this CD will benefit *JDRF International * *Tips Across the Waters *, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware. --047d7b3438ae6f020604d85ba6ee Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Pier okay.=C2=A0 In the interim I looked at the preview and looks posi= tive.=C2=A0 I will probably buy.=C2=A0 Thanks for introducing yourself to L= D.
=C2=A0
Jim

O= n Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Pier <madstrum@gmail.com> w= rote:
Hi,=C2=A0

= The 5 promo codes have been given away. Thanks guys for your interest.

Pier.

Sent from my iPhone

On 20 Mar, 2013, at 6:21 PM, abd halimski <halimzainal@gmail.com> wrote= :

want!= :D

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Chri= stopher Darrow <thedarrow@gmail.com> wrote:

I would love one if still available! Thank you f= or developing!=C2=A0

---Christoph= er Darrow
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0503.327.9329

On Mar 19, 2013, at 6:47 PM, Pier <madstrum@gmail.com> wrote:
=
Hi,=C2=A0

I'm Pier, developer of TF Looper, a looping app for iOS that is cl= oser in workflow to the hardware loopers than other apps.=C2=A0
I= 'm posting here as I think this app might be of interest to the folks h= ere. I have 5 promo codes to give away, so if you're inte= rested email me and I'll pass you the promo code :)


Inspired from hardware looping pedals,= TF Looper aims to make looping fun and easy! Great for impromptu jams with= out the need to "plan" anything in advance. Works standalone or w= ith input devices such as Apogee Jam for better sound.

=E2=9C=93 Low= -latency sound engine makes looping a breeze
=E2=9C=93 Straight-forward workflow and int= erface akin to dedicated hardware loopers
=E2=9C=93 Undo functionality
=E2=9C=93 Trigger recording on input for ea= sier recording of instruments
=E2=9C=93 Automatic quantisation of loops f= or fuss-free recording
=E2=9C=93 Unlimited overdubbing for express= ive looping
=E2=9C=93 Fade previous overdubs option to = create a continuous looping soundscape
=E2=9C=93 Octave-down and octave-up on indi= vidual channels
=E2=9C=93 Stop tracks anytime, play them ag= ain and they will synchronise to other tracks in perfect time
=E2=9C=93 Included limiter and noise reduct= ion=C2=A0
=E2=9C=93 Stop-all channels / Start-all cha= nnels function - great for breaking it down!

Have a good day.=C2=A0
Thanks.=C2=A0

Pier.






--
--
jimgoodin.com - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, col= or blue, repetitive minimalism'
=C2=A0
The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music=C2=A0- = 9;Organically inspired New Music'
=C2=A0
From Brookl= yn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin &= ; Peter Th=C3=B6rn.=C2=A0 Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF International

Tips Across the Waters, a= new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.
--047d7b3438ae6f020604d85ba6ee-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 20 14:28:03 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 095A91834B8; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 14:28:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:content-type:message-id:mime-version:subject:date :references:to:in-reply-to:x-mailer; bh=yOaRaY10MU4REMxGvwIuV+PSL+235HXzzxARbhBB5QI=; b=XyAUmh08+6Pln2O9hyXd0zE7pjMQ7EmhishIu0fXA8H8/o6S5mfPpkQ4iuOTSI+00S X552J68AWuH0JPKLRxN/UDJHUcgEQ0sZOnqhTrcL59j/3M3ggOntvkEtvLJYLOQeZqaZ 1LmMpf2udSR/AUE9S+YDMne4mmQ120/hORnw1l6Jxf+V0EDlnnwbjLUyW6B6Chn2xRoi hTfnFO0MCxIKPW9j27vlOZC6/+SUZXaV0Ex+AHBiP2Yg4QMfbs2PnxxXLlZVcJtjLCWO PNXK9iYUqe/N31ySZXxv94kTxv5/1Ik+wPI3REs4Bw95FyJ1BkrhpSnH/C1LVOUm6ex2 keXg== X-Received: by 10.68.196.35 with SMTP id ij3mr9224563pbc.56.1363789681923; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 07:28:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Pier Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_FB1122F8-50C0-4A91-8054-7C20A78BC986" Message-Id: <2C45F5CC-71AB-494E-94EA-2B20EFB1D08F@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) Subject: Re: TF Looper - new looping app in the App Store Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 22:27:57 +0800 References: <39FE16F9-903E-40CB-8E8D-0532A5AE37AC@gmail.com> <3E274495-8EB0-4564-B561-7D2E8D5FF95F@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120572 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 14:28:02 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_FB1122F8-50C0-4A91-8054-7C20A78BC986 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Thanks Jim,=20 Appreciate it. I will be continually improving the looper and love to = garner feedback from the folks here.=20 Pier. On 20 Mar, 2013, at 10:00 PM, Jim Goodin = wrote: > Pier okay. In the interim I looked at the preview and looks positive. = I will probably buy. Thanks for introducing yourself to LD. > =20 > Jim >=20 > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Pier wrote: > Hi,=20 >=20 > The 5 promo codes have been given away. Thanks guys for your interest. >=20 > Pier. >=20 > Sent from my iPhone >=20 > On 20 Mar, 2013, at 6:21 PM, abd halimski = wrote: >=20 >> want! :D >>=20 >> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Christopher Darrow = wrote: >>=20 >> I would love one if still available! Thank you for developing!=20 >>=20 >> ---Christopher Darrow >> 503.327.9329 >>=20 >> On Mar 19, 2013, at 6:47 PM, Pier wrote: >>=20 >>> Hi,=20 >>>=20 >>> I'm Pier, developer of TF Looper, a looping app for iOS that is = closer in workflow to the hardware loopers than other apps.=20 >>> I'm posting here as I think this app might be of interest to the = folks here. I have 5 promo codes to give away, so if you're interested = email me and I'll pass you the promo code :) >>>=20 >>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/tf-looper/id617839179?ls=3D1&mt=3D8 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Inspired from hardware looping pedals, TF Looper aims to make = looping fun and easy! Great for impromptu jams without the need to = "plan" anything in advance. Works standalone or with input devices such = as Apogee Jam for better sound. >>>=20 >>> =E2=9C=93 Low-latency sound engine makes looping a breeze >>> =E2=9C=93 Straight-forward workflow and interface akin to dedicated = hardware loopers >>> =E2=9C=93 Undo functionality >>> =E2=9C=93 Trigger recording on input for easier recording of = instruments >>> =E2=9C=93 Automatic quantisation of loops for fuss-free recording >>> =E2=9C=93 Unlimited overdubbing for expressive looping >>> =E2=9C=93 Fade previous overdubs option to create a continuous = looping soundscape >>> =E2=9C=93 Octave-down and octave-up on individual channels >>> =E2=9C=93 Stop tracks anytime, play them again and they will = synchronise to other tracks in perfect time >>> =E2=9C=93 Included limiter and noise reduction=20 >>> =E2=9C=93 Stop-all channels / Start-all channels function - great = for breaking it down! >>>=20 >>> Have a good day.=20 >>> Thanks.=20 >>>=20 >>> Pier. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > -- > jimgoodin.com - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive = minimalism' > =20 > The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music - 'Organically inspired New = Music' > =20 > =46rom Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim = Goodin & Peter Th=C3=B6rn. Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF = International >=20 > Tips Across the Waters, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and = Wire Ware. --Apple-Mail=_FB1122F8-50C0-4A91-8054-7C20A78BC986 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
On 20 Mar, 2013, at 10:00 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> = wrote:

Pier okay.  In the interim I looked at the = preview and looks positive.  I will probably buy.  Thanks for = introducing yourself to = LD.
 
Jim

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Pier <madstrum@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, 

The 5 promo codes = have been given away. Thanks guys for your interest.

Pier.

Sent from my iPhone

On 20 Mar, 2013, at 6:21 PM, abd halimski <halimzainal@gmail.com> wrote:

want! = :D

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 9:59 AM, = Christopher Darrow <thedarrow@gmail.com> wrote:

I would love one if still available! Thank = you for developing! 

---Christopher Darrow
  =      503.327.9329

On Mar 19, 2013, at 6:47 PM, Pier <madstrum@gmail.com> = wrote:

Hi, 

I'm Pier, developer of TF Looper, a looping app for iOS that is = closer in workflow to the hardware loopers than other = apps. 
I'm posting here as I think this app might be of = interest to the folks here. I have 5 promo codes to give = away, so if you're interested email me and I'll pass you the = promo code :)



Inspired from = hardware looping pedals, TF Looper aims to make looping fun and easy! = Great for impromptu jams without the need to "plan" anything in advance. = Works standalone or with input devices such as Apogee Jam for better = sound.

=E2=9C=93 = Low-latency sound engine makes looping a breeze
=E2=9C=93 = Straight-forward workflow and interface akin to dedicated hardware = loopers
=E2=9C=93 Undo = functionality
=E2=9C=93 Trigger = recording on input for easier recording of instruments
=E2=9C=93 = Automatic quantisation of loops for fuss-free recording
=E2=9C=93 = Unlimited overdubbing for expressive looping
=E2=9C=93 Fade = previous overdubs option to create a continuous looping = soundscape
=E2=9C=93 = Octave-down and octave-up on individual channels
=E2=9C=93 Stop = tracks anytime, play them again and they will synchronise to other = tracks in perfect time
=E2=9C=93 = Included limiter and noise reduction 
=E2=9C=93 = Stop-all channels / Start-all channels function - great for breaking it = down!

Have a good = day. 
Thanks. 

Pier.






--
--
jimgoodin.com - 'Acoustic guitar = renaissance, color blue, repetitive minimalism'
 
The Recordings of Wood and Wire = Music - 'Organically inspired New = Music'
 
=46rom= Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim = Goodin & Peter Th=C3=B6rn.  Proceeds from this CD will benefit = JDRF = International

Tips Across the Waters, a new app for = iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.

= --Apple-Mail=_FB1122F8-50C0-4A91-8054-7C20A78BC986-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 20 14:54:51 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94D4C1834CB; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 14:54:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 88416 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 14:54:51 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=dIr+A5lb c=1 sm=1 a=UncmS/Am0Fgh8c8TZh5eWA==:17 a=xNWzfbQRxM8A:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=XW0sKyY1oZMA:10 a=l8MBr9TRZXuFCmL_ajEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=UncmS/Am0Fgh8c8TZh5eWA==:117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Re: Roland GK cable noise issue From: Ted Killian In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 07:54:50 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <796EC999-A87E-4FFF-8493-CD3406F799DA@charter.net> References: <5149AC2C.5080407@post.cybercity.dk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120573 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 14:54:51 +0000 (UTC) Hmmmm... I have heard of GK 13-pin cables going bad and/or becoming noisy. I have only experienced one such cable failure myself since 1992, and = when that cable went bad it simply buzzed intermittently a bit and then = went dead on one string. Otherwise, I have happily sent both the synth signal and audio signal of = my guitar down these cables and perceived no lack of audio quality - or = in other words, no need to avoid using the same cable to send the signal = from my magnetic pickups. I regularly use GK equipped guitars to run a GR synth a VG modeler and = analog (magnetic pickup) guitar sound all through the same cable with no = problem at all. I have never particularly felt the need to run my magnetic pickup = through a separate cable from the guitar. Different strokes I guess... Ted On Mar 20, 2013, at 5:54 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Good logica thinking, van, but in my case there this GK cable isn't > even sending audio - only data to from strings pitch reading. But you > could send also audio through this cable and I assume that's the weak > point causing its fragility. I was looking for a shorter cable but > could only find the 5 meter long one in the shops. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 20 15:27:41 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FE0A1834D0; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:27:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 789055.30403.bm@omp1012.mail.ird.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1363793259; bh=U1b/zHaENpI1wec0D7MOYDVovNlv2TISZSPSYR0aiAc=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lgbMbKVajVHNeaTDITHePsP9t8eMdASAvbu1/G1H+/Czce97eJEvRKgYwtU2bV1HfWO/qVFbxw6xlgLHfSLVAXUc1DCwue4VE+zy7djzLexcrQ3rUYw7sqAHtXL9g2IPidw27gFS3L/+inD2J6d7o19gUUTPK57xaurK8Yz1nXE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oMC4idHsOoODr+7J+esGt9CVVf3G/wUzlPo8I04Y701nDdfzYCFaD4c3Y0iG3KNVwvzhnPN26hv3Ya4CnbXnmQA3qcz3qWklhkdQkjJtFzxWJdzprFNXathn/bs+CztUvMP7ymS1MJ6b1GyEA0wDnraBEcDiqh7fImLlUjvwNZA=; X-YMail-OSG: srgZR7gVM1n9qlgFM5Q3SMTJgE1NP_sufvkiT_H.L6e34H6 3VrGXw.87WpYH5..HaE7CFPBhxywnlH.KGh8JQXznRmRH7x7fb.nV_.vHLpK 0VGfwbvSaw5sSGgOX1v.18p1BMZcbI4ODopSpa2bBWMMNgDz9bpD.6tqOkaW m7V3_ZXX7xj.4gbWJF3Us2L0Jb_dF58uCbL.ZMldgGhaKHOOm6zrtIp1v3gB JOpg6FKvZpfQmOelrSg8HwANtILmiXqk868gqh8M1F5Xjwrsz4RMc4MBU0o4 c.djD1GGAJQhAc4y1JQXbKFGLQyObqyp84oacJSGIZgMWrJYvULmBkINU2at f0sGQ8nlrkFmNsiU_mMyrSkcv7vi1BdzB.XFuw9LE2Msx66Hwmitzo7e_V07 RZUYygq2AgqZfUShgITGa4NDmaAFosrNuskJrw1jiEbkXq3cEFPUJQ5WkMJ8 7wli0DuEe4yu_XLAhMw_eJ5sNO47rq8NB_kRPJ5JPr57sQFwEhG9H0Yj6LrK cX9Ki2F49TJ5DqpNJQ9tqn5biJlhlwfa3Jy5u67thaxt9wg3DbQ-- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,aGVsbG8gUGllciwKCnRvbyBiYWQgYnV0IGkgd2lsbCBqdXN0IGhhdmUgdG8gaW52ZXN0LgoKSSBhbSBpbiBCZXJsaW4sIHdlIGFyZSBxdWFzaSBuZWlnaGJvdXJzLi4uCgpBbnRvbnkKCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwogRGXCoDogUGllciA8bWFkc3RydW1AZ21haWwuY29tPgrDgMKgOiAiTG9vcGVycy1EZWxpZ2h0QGxvb3BlcnMtZGVsaWdodC5jb20iIDxMb29wZXJzLURlbGlnaHRAbG9vcGVycy1kZWxpZ2h0LmNvbT4gCkNjwqA6ICJMb29wZXJzLURlbGlnaHRAbG9vcGVycy1kZWwBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.138.524 References: <39FE16F9-903E-40CB-8E8D-0532A5AE37AC@gmail.com> <3E274495-8EB0-4564-B561-7D2E8D5FF95F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1363793259.71721.YahooMailNeo@web171702.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:27:39 +0000 (GMT) From: Antony Hequet Reply-To: Antony Hequet Subject: Re: TF Looper - new looping app in the App Store To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: <3E274495-8EB0-4564-B561-7D2E8D5FF95F@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-1698399087-1174245404-1363793259=:71721" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120574 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:27:41 +0000 (UTC) ---1698399087-1174245404-1363793259=:71721 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello Pier,=0A=0Atoo bad but i will just have to invest.=0A=0AI am in Berli= n, we are quasi neighbours...=0A=0AAntony=0A=0A=0A_________________________= _______=0A De=C2=A0: Pier =0A=C3=80=C2=A0: "Loopers-Del= ight@loopers-delight.com" =0ACc=C2=A0= : "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" =0AEnvoy=C3=A9 le : Mercredi 20 mars 2013 14h27=0AObjet=C2=A0: Re: TF Lo= oper - new looping app in the App Store=0A =0A=0AHi,=C2=A0=0A=0AThe 5 promo= codes have been given away. Thanks guys for your interest.=0A=0APier.=0A= =0ASent from my iPhone=0A=0AOn 20 Mar, 2013, at 6:21 PM, abd halimski wrote:=0A=0A=0Awant! :D=0A>=0A>=0A>On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 = at 9:59 AM, Christopher Darrow wrote:=0A>=0A>=0A>>I w= ould love one if still available! Thank you for developing!=C2=A0=0A>>=0A>>= =0A>>---Christopher Darrow=0A>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0503.327.9329=0A>>= =0A>>On Mar 19, 2013, at 6:47 PM, Pier wrote:=0A>>=0A>= >=0A>>Hi,=C2=A0=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>I'm Pier, developer of TF Looper, a loopin= g app for iOS that is closer in workflow to the hardware loopers than other= apps.=C2=A0=0A>>>I'm posting here as I think this app might be of interest= to the folks here. I have 5 promo codes to give away, so if you're interes= ted email me and I'll pass you the promo code :)=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>https://i= tunes.apple.com/us/app/tf-looper/id617839179?ls=3D1&mt=3D8=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>= >=0A>>>=0A>>>Inspired from hardware looping pedals, TF Looper aims to make = looping fun and easy! Great for impromptu jams without the need to "plan" a= nything in advance. Works standalone or with input devices such as Apogee J= am for better sound.=0A>>>=0A>>>=E2=9C=93 Low-latency sound engine makes lo= oping a breeze=0A>>>=E2=9C=93 Straight-forward workflow and interface akin = to dedicated hardware loopers=0A>>>=E2=9C=93 Undo functionality=0A>>>=E2=9C= =93 Trigger recording on input for easier recording of instruments=0A>>>=E2= =9C=93 Automatic quantisation of loops for fuss-free recording=0A>>>=E2=9C= =93 Unlimited overdubbing for expressive looping=0A>>>=E2=9C=93 Fade previo= us overdubs option to create a continuous looping soundscape=0A>>>=E2=9C=93= Octave-down and octave-up on individual channels=0A>>>=E2=9C=93 Stop track= s anytime, play them again and they will synchronise to other tracks in per= fect time=0A>>>=E2=9C=93 Included limiter and noise reduction=C2=A0=0A>>>= =E2=9C=93 Stop-all channels / Start-all channels function - great for break= ing it down!=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>Have a good day.=C2=A0=0A>>>Thanks.=C2=A0=0A>= >>=0A>>>=0A>>>Pier.=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A> ---1698399087-1174245404-1363793259=:71721 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hello Pier,

too bad but i will just have to invest.

I am in Berlin, we are quasi neighbours...

Antony

De : Pier <madstrum@gmail.com&g= t;
=C3=80 : "Loop= ers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>= ;
Cc : "Loopers-Delight@loopers= -delight.com" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Envoy=C3=A9 le : Mercredi 20 mars 2013= 14h27
Objet : Re= : TF Looper - new looping app in the App Store

Hi, 

The 5 promo codes have b= een given away. Thanks guys for your interest.

Pie= r.

Sent from my iPhone

On 20 Mar, 2013, at 6:21 PM, ab= d halimski <halimzainal@gmail.= com> wrote:

want! :D
=
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 9:59 AM= , Christopher Darrow <thedarrow@gmai= l.com> wrote:
=0A

I would love one if still available! Thank you for develo= ping! 
=
---Christopher Darrow
       503.327= .9329
=0A
=
On Mar 19, 2013, at 6:47 PM, Pier <madstrum@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, 

=0A
I'm Pier, developer of TF L= ooper, a looping app for iOS that is closer in workflow to the hardware loo= pers than other apps. 
I'm posting here as I think this app = might be of interest to the folks here. I have 5 promo codes to give = away, so if you're interested email me and I'll pass you the promo = code :)
=0A



=0A
Inspired from hardware looping pedals, TF Looper aims to make looping= fun and easy! Great for impromptu jams without the need to "plan" anything= in advance. Works standalone or with input devices such as Apogee Jam for = better sound.
=0A
=E2=9C=93 Low-latency sound engine makes loo= ping a breeze
=0A=E2=9C=93 Straight-forward workflow and interface akin to dedicated har= dware loopers
=0A=E2=9C=93 Undo functionality
=0A=E2=9C=93 Trigger recording on input for easier reco= rding of instruments
=0A=E2=9C=93 Automatic quantisation of loops for fuss-free recordin= g
=0A=E2=9C= =93 Unlimited overdubbing for expressive looping
=0A=E2=9C=93 Fade previous overdubs opt= ion to create a continuous looping soundscape
=0A=E2=9C=93 Octave-down and octave-up on = individual channels
=0A=E2=9C=93 Stop tracks anytime, play them again and they will sync= hronise to other tracks in perfect time
= =0A=E2=9C=93 Included limiter and noise reduct= ion 
=0A= =E2=9C=93 Stop-all channels / Start-all channels function - great for break= ing it down!
=0A

H= ave a good day. 
Thanks. 
=0A

P= ier.

=0A=0A
=0A

=0A


---1698399087-1174245404-1363793259=:71721-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 20 15:46:36 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B44E01834CE; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:46:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=ev824Rw+vAri7lKMsKduPSLMwOrUwocC3vWHMmsj0Y8=; b=ejNENgArBP+rMi3WB8uFuANIFlHJAzTM1xpNWbXm8zL5SM1QNtJDBjzLjs6V2iMwrt QTq6oJSPb8Jvk9/Bfp0npYXaRHohUdvCkoYzSO4Afmza41UJrVyzzWqdiEnPsAJkMuEf yYj8qY3GVi8ICXVqXpeAFLthKn7918hmL7MG4F3uWFVT4XQSOpU473wcnvHYJkpXCfOZ /yw49iUn16W7hDffu1J+AvrU4sX2MjF7cFfDpNu5JO+lpYbdQDgxwL4oKqcPU+kIQGPO OovbMVwkUCB0P3oRVRUPFs65VjzYNV9X3c31dQRegnC4VQRGasqd85CZ476JJfP3XBtd fZWA== X-Received: by 10.68.189.137 with SMTP id gi9mr9848627pbc.118.1363794395610; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 08:46:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5149D9D9.10101@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 08:46:33 -0700 From: 7stringjazz Reply-To: 7stringjazz@gmail.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: TF Looper - new looping app in the App Store References: <39FE16F9-903E-40CB-8E8D-0532A5AE37AC@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <39FE16F9-903E-40CB-8E8D-0532A5AE37AC@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040305030403080508010204" X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn9U1R9KodPS8GFJ2s02JAp2VratpeZCj+mfEmL67FF7UNydtjHT18Z7N1Fl4WjlWp+1nfA Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120575 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:46:36 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040305030403080508010204 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Pier, I'm nterested in a promo code! Thanks, dave On 3/19/2013 6:47 PM, Pier wrote: > Hi, > > I'm Pier, developer of TF Looper, a looping app for iOS that is closer > in workflow to the hardware loopers than other apps. > I'm posting here as I think this app might be of interest to the folks > here. *_I have 5 promo codes to give away_*, so if you're interested > email me and I'll pass you the promo code :) > > https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/tf-looper/id617839179?ls=1&mt=8 > > > Inspired from hardware looping pedals, TF Looper aims to make looping > fun and easy! Great for impromptu jams without the need to "plan" > anything in advance. Works standalone or with input devices such as > Apogee Jam for better sound. > > ✓ Low-latency sound engine makes looping a breeze > ✓ Straight-forward workflow and interface akin to dedicated hardware > loopers > ✓ Undo functionality > ✓ Trigger recording on input for easier recording of instruments > ✓ Automatic quantisation of loops for fuss-free recording > ✓ Unlimited overdubbing for expressive looping > ✓ Fade previous overdubs option to create a continuous looping soundscape > ✓ Octave-down and octave-up on individual channels > ✓ Stop tracks anytime, play them again and they will synchronise to > other tracks in perfect time > ✓ Included limiter and noise reduction > ✓ Stop-all channels / Start-all channels function - great for breaking > it down! > > Have a good day. > Thanks. > > Pier. > > -- http://Soundclick.com/7stringjazz http://Soundcloud.com/7stringjazz --------------040305030403080508010204 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi Pier, I'm nterested in a promo code! Thanks, dave

On 3/19/2013 6:47 PM, Pier wrote:
Hi, 

I'm Pier, developer of TF Looper, a looping app for iOS that is closer in workflow to the hardware loopers than other apps. 
I'm posting here as I think this app might be of interest to the folks here. I have 5 promo codes to give away, so if you're interested email me and I'll pass you the promo code :)



Inspired from hardware looping pedals, TF Looper aims to make looping fun and easy! Great for impromptu jams without the need to "plan" anything in advance. Works standalone or with input devices such as Apogee Jam for better sound.

✓ Low-latency sound engine makes looping a breeze
✓ Straight-forward workflow and interface akin to dedicated hardware loopers
✓ Undo functionality
✓ Trigger recording on input for easier recording of instruments
✓ Automatic quantisation of loops for fuss-free recording
✓ Unlimited overdubbing for expressive looping
✓ Fade previous overdubs option to create a continuous looping soundscape
✓ Octave-down and octave-up on individual channels
✓ Stop tracks anytime, play them again and they will synchronise to other tracks in perfect time
✓ Included limiter and noise reduction 
✓ Stop-all channels / Start-all channels function - great for breaking it down!

Have a good day. 
Thanks. 

Pier.




--
http://Soundclick.com/7stringjazz
http://Soundcloud.com/7stringjazz
--------------040305030403080508010204-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 20 20:27:06 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 470501834CD; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:27:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 841533765/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.22.41/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.22.41 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMBAMwaSlFYbRYp/2dsb2JhbAANN8UmgWiDGAEBAQMBOEAGCwsYCRYPCQMCAQIBRRwBiAqvH5M5jxYWgyoDnEqOIg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,880,1355097600"; d="scan'208";a="841533765" Message-ID: <514A1BAA.4080307@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:27:22 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electro-harmonic Superego Now: For Sale References: <5146DDEF.9020305@tiscali.co.uk> <5148FC72.80409@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <5148FC72.80409@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9cziZB.A.fEH.auhSRB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120576 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:27:06 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker wrote: > I have read all the downsides to this pedal. > > I'm really interested in noise and am not a guitar player, per se. > > What does the Super Ego do that the Freeze doesn't do, out of curiosity. Independent volume control of dry and fx sounds. Attack/Decay time fully controllable (not individually) "Glissando" between single notes, which also does some industrial kind of morph between chords or other captured sounds. ( this is the sort of thing you'll like, v artifacty and industrial, ...I'm kind of guessing you might ude it with QRep) An automatic mode which catches any cleanly played note and sustains it. A latching mode which means it'll keep the sustain going when you let go of the switch, and also lets you layer up sounds. It's also rather good at *not* picking up percussive sounds, don't know how the Freeze manages at that....maybe the Freeze is better at grabbing those...you'd know better than me. ...and it has an fx loop, the perfect place for your Boss slicer thing For the cost though, it's not got as many knobs on it as you'd expect from EH. > > For merely manipulating noise, short noises it doesn't catch. ..but long ones it does. The "Gliss" function that morphs to the new captured sound is right there in your nasty artifact comfort zone > is this a hip pedal? To me it's more of a source for 'nice analog processing' ;-) Guitar wise it's ideal for that prog band you were starting. Actually while it's a keeper, for me it's not got the same appeal as, say, the "Ring Thing" which would give you some radical new tones placed after your Freeze. ( more options for the same price) andy > > Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 21 02:17:28 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B1861834CB; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 02:17:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=fp/4FbYYDspdi3ILzvf3XLO3bFCiR+cAwBY9VItM7XtXl9ZrJPNmD+JJVgRRx78c; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <13322581.1363832246819.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 21:17:26 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Grant Reply-To: Grant To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Roland GK cable noise issue Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 4627597e215714c3ca853a8129e90869f402879cecb40bd5b19bfb661148d67d3c91179d49018d7c6c75a508cf608bb3350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.36 Resent-Message-ID: <6YHZTB.A.qiB.42mSRB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120577 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 02:17:28 +0000 (UTC) All signals except the 3-way switch contacts are "audio" in the GK pickup cable. The hex pickup outputs are very bright of course due to the pickup position but the signal is essentially the same as that from a standard mag pickup. Lots of information is gathered from these signals including pitch, envelope and spectral data for the harmonic restructering and other synthesis uses. Personally, if my connectors are well cleaned, I've had no problems with either the hex signal or the mag signals. BTW, all hex and mag signals are buffered by unity-gain op-amps inside the GK unit so there is little loss or signal degradation. The only reason to avoid using the mag path would be if you don't like the "buffered" sound. G -----Original Message----- >From: Per Boysen >Sent: Mar 20, 2013 7:54 AM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: Roland GK cable noise issue > >Good logica thinking, van, but in my case there this GK cable isn't >even sending audio - only data to from strings pitch reading. But you >could send also audio through this cable and I assume that's the weak >point causing its fragility. I was looking for a shorter cable but >could only find the 5 meter long one in the shops. > >Greetings from Sweden > >Per Boysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 21 11:52:29 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB1471834B5; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:52:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <514AF482.1020700@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 04:52:34 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: andy butler , "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Re: Electro-harmonic Superego Now: For Sale References: <514A1BAA.4080307@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <514A1BAA.4080307@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000105040401080503050601" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120578 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:52:28 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000105040401080503050601 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 3/20/2013 1:27 PM, andy butler wrote: > > Actually while it's a keeper, for me it's not got the same appeal as, > say, the "Ring Thing" which would give you some radical > new tones placed after your Freeze. ( more options for the same price) > > *Thanks for the very in-depth review (keeping my sensibility in mind).** > **It actually sounds fantastic for me, but I must admit, the Ring > Thing really is floating ** > * *my boat too. I also know it got trashed but I could really use the Fender Feedbacker, too for ** **some melodic ideas I have.* *Thanks for taking the time, Andy............I think I know enough to make my choice.** ** **Oh yeah, and when I sell a bunch of stuff to actually be able to afford it all............doh!** ** **Rick* --------------000105040401080503050601 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 3/20/2013 1:27 PM, andy butler wrote:

Actually while it's a keeper, for me it's not got the same appeal as, say, the "Ring Thing" which would give you some radical
new tones placed after your Freeze. ( more options for the same price)

Thanks for the very in-depth review (keeping my sensibility in mind).
It actually sounds fantastic for me,   but I must admit, the Ring Thing really is floating
my boat too.      I also know it got trashed but I could really use the Fender Feedbacker, too for
some melodic ideas I have.

Thanks for taking the time, Andy............I think I know enough to make my choice.

Oh yeah,  and when I sell a bunch of stuff to actually be able to afford it all............doh!

Rick

--------------000105040401080503050601-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 21 19:28:22 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DEBB41834CF; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 19:28:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <514B5F51.3000301@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 15:28:17 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen to Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120579 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 19:28:22 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY http://galactictravels.info Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on ambient pioneer Steve Roach. The Featured CD at Midnight will be disk one from "Journey of One" on Projekt Records. The Special Focus page is at http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2013/focus.html#mar Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 22 04:55:54 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 74B191834CF; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 04:55:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3601 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 04:55:54 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 23:52:19 -0400 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Light and motion, at 119 Gallery Lowell MA, reception March 24 with concert to follow, Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Experimental Film Discussion List Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120580 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 04:55:54 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, Light and motion, photography and video by Dr. T is on display at 119 gallery through April 13. There will be a reception on March 24 from 3 PM to 6 PM with a concert in jam session to follow at 7:30 PM. I will perform video improvisations and Tim will play guitar and electronics. This is a jam session as well as a concert-please feel free to bring your axe and your dancing shoes. The photographs include sumptuous 12 X 22 prints of the images that can be seen at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157633045688377/ There will also be several video pieces on display including my video tribute to my late wife Marya, I hope to see some of you there. 119 Chelmsford St Lowell, MA 01851-2621 8:00 PM http://www.119gallery.org/ My videos, including recordings of some of my performances, can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld Culinary note: There is an outstanding Cambodian restaurant next door to the gallery. -- "I rang a silent bell ..." -- Robert Hunter "... cast your dancing spell my way, I promise to go under it" -- Bob Dylan My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 22 04:55:54 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D4641834DA; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 04:55:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 23:54:06 -0400 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Photo Essay on Flickr Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Experimental Film Discussion List Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120581 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 04:55:54 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I have a new photo sequence on Flickr. A selection of images on display (sumptuous 12 x 22 prints) at my show "Light and Motion -- Photography and VIdeo" on view at 119 Gallery in Lowell, MA through April 13. The reception is March 24, from 3 to 6 PM,< to be followed by a concert and jam session with Tim Mungenast at 7:30. Time exposures that turn moving lights into streaks are a staple of night photography. Time exposures in which the camera is moving instead of (or in addition to) the lights are less common. I have experimented with this technique since I started doing serious photography in 1970. It was not very practical in the days of film because I got no immediate feedback and had to pay for every shot. When I use this technique with a digital camera, I get immediate feedback on the results of my last shot, and the only cost is the time it takes to evaluate the images. The prints on exhibit here were taken with Lumix LX3 and LX7 cameras, which are very compact and have high-quality Leica lenses. The compactness of the cameras makes it easy to whip them around at high speeds, enhancing the motion effects. The LX 7 is more advanced, but the LX 3 gives me immediate feedback when I use the camera in unlimited burst mode. Most of the prints on display are one second time exposures, taken with the LX 3 in unlimited burst mode, which gives me approximately one picture a second. I get to look at each picture for a fraction of a second, which allows me to improvise further camera moves in reaction to what I have just taken. This adds to the improvisational feeling of the work. I think of the process as a combination of photography, dancing, and action painting photographic version of Action Painting. I call the photos I take using this technique "Swirlies". http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157633045688377/ BTW Some of my videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld -- " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 22 13:50:04 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 658801834CE; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 13:50:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <514C6186.8060303@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 09:49:58 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #833 for March 21, 2013. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120582 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 13:50:04 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2013/130321.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #833 March 21, 2013. WDIY Playlist: http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels?playlist_date=03-21-2013 RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Steve Roach. The Featured CD at Midnight was disk one from "Journey of One" on Projekt Records.http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2013/focus.html#mar PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Paul Lawler and Improvisation-1 Jam Sessions Vol. 1 (Paul Paul Nagle Lawler Music) Motionfield Sleeping Troll A Sort of Homecoming (Autoload) Intelligentsia Arkangel Music for Motherships (Earth Academy) Andy Pickford Mnemosyne Lughnasad 2 (none) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Steve Roach Part 1 Journey of One d1 (Projekt) Steve Roach Part 2 Journey of One d1 (Projekt) Steve Roach Part 3 Journey of One d1 (Projekt) Steve Roach Part 4 Journey of One d1 (Projekt) Steve Roach Part 5 Journey of One d1 (Projekt) Steve Roach Part 6 Journey of One d1 (Projekt) Steve Roach Part 7 Journey of One d1 (Projekt) Vic Hennegan Spacetime Voyager Nebula Waves (Alien Tribes) 1:00 am * = excerpt ** = continued VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long focus on Steve Roach. The Featured CD at Midnight will be disk two from "Journey of One" on Projekt Records. WDIY Announcement: http://wdiy.org/post/next-galactic-travels-2013-03-28 Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 22 17:14:52 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A834D1834CE; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 17:14:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: openjam@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Longtime Member Message-Id: Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 13:14:48 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20121107; t=1363972491; bh=7O0ecGieWSxohH326nDoEnynbeKCgTgzNCnLgRm0Z+4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=mUERppiAqLiDfuAndvI6SABIG5B2thseMKQ/4W0Db48nEE8YInmPIASrDCEraBh8g sRiJIZM96Bxo5pn6+R8/bYvU2shjt8SSHe4UY0kGEtQqRMc9538+H6gxAtowEX4xyA m11gOflLd478YylZ9jVG8i2Rc0VdJk4Vo3guP2IY= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:380071744:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2944514c91893d08 X-AOL-IP: 174.101.244.167 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120583 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 17:14:52 +0000 (UTC) Hello LD, I've been a member of this group since '97 i think. I have = jumped in and out of the pool often.=20 I respect the group and honor the non-spam manners of it.=20 Would you guys mind if I posted a link to a Musician's contest that I am = in. It's become a popularity contest more so than music and a lot of my = competition are not as serious as i think i am about winning with = dignity.=20 Thanks and I hope you respect and honor my request. tq From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 22 17:38:58 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB2E51834CA; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 17:38:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1363973937; bh=xfy6ledZE8zmfxC/tT7waL2CRTANR/QYsX2PKSkGUgE=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer; b=43dyLzNnpURHm9jywXvMCWPpl+d22RfvS8t9x7MJVXDQN6XEbuvLgCui0ClSUBzxRZTOgsDAAQlvdhUEd+s1JHB3hQui7VbDjyaExP/nfD6qnU3Nts7RwA8YsFLGCc5W8keeRKK52mQ/7mb8AJyIpO7qRUDKJgGCrBqU9xkqL44= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 858625.92073.bm@smtp107.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: WQ5y3oQVM1n6gE.Kk6ffHJTNoCElexbX8LZk.PAb4xBWyyF NoH1vNywgqqvHwwlDURd_xhI9vIosmnkDpXTwamkT_V5rOGMhNRIApwy5nn_ .7q3vqS0.AHN.uzKAz1RAJQ7Z.tayjr1B4q9uXAh6AzGZuAfM547Ref_xhIa A6nCijy6FZ_jx0lSxfhw1wZO_p9WT48IVHuNSKRbSHNJxi_GSfpHUXLscU36 BBpV7CHDra24ZUk4pTZ35jjLo1GPIDFcZgOBXzBpq1yisb9I05KJq5DvpieO s2GiX4VmFYy0JEdZcUxfASz1b8QNePWF0d1YnFWMXNHlIvPTyl0dtAKRsyz1 N2hzVFIVhRc004MBSApstdbnGrlFe5HPew.4pthKKv9ufz3e2p4DevLzKjLs h3Kjr0w7k9FFHDSKPRStX2xFWV6ZxUJaF_CIH4Ag4J3rjLg-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: ILs26NSswBDuK82.iJb8TCN7cubm0SmUbZYidhSBIQ-- X-Rocket-Received: from [192.168.1.148] (voicesound@108.192.18.28 with plain) by smtp107.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Mar 2013 10:38:57 -0700 PDT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Subject: Re: Longtime Member From: Laurie Amat In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:38:54 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <13A06018-F6FC-405F-B24C-279C8208BA19@att.net> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120584 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 17:38:58 +0000 (UTC) I have no problem with it, only if you go ahead and win! On Mar 22, 2013, at 10:14 AM, openjam@aol.com wrote: > Hello LD, I've been a member of this group since '97 i think. I have = jumped in and out of the pool often.=20 >=20 > I respect the group and honor the non-spam manners of it.=20 >=20 > Would you guys mind if I posted a link to a Musician's contest that I = am in. It's become a popularity contest more so than music and a lot of = my competition are not as serious as i think i am about winning with = dignity.=20 >=20 > Thanks and I hope you respect and honor my request. >=20 > tq >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 22 17:45:40 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 268021834D0; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 17:45:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=oqDGUaeUyuwxzCp0aS1Rv/X3LAIziHWM61mB79Zt0nU=; b=QiBjBWeV35YwQ96ZJc22zak2lY/PEjCE7Gjz8BR2SyuUz1/ayM+pETdoZD6IOCYfLC tjylQ4VYmpf1ltcwHN9PiDvvFYsS6JA1SwPsr12Dtyy88hCTerjnMijU8gYXz67qqcTy 9nYtBt7Z9yuJ31M5DYKEylzC3uWPkPxWfL9QiFaa9sNfYpCox5C5sfY1eCM2QV/1VHSr 5cXFHh/RXEiCgM93jagpOUID35niqf2Jg/AvaCKjhQ+YRFticV94SDdRBy/YLX0yDhfT CfWuWVPHiZLm33iQc+lLmEdNewYCaKW6W4gIIil8E3o2Gtsob1paMtIJN57OptgooHeS g6IA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.49.35.51 with SMTP id e19mr1059417qej.43.1363974339725; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:45:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <13A06018-F6FC-405F-B24C-279C8208BA19@att.net> References: <13A06018-F6FC-405F-B24C-279C8208BA19@att.net> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 13:45:39 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Longtime Member From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120585 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 17:45:40 +0000 (UTC) I find the whole notion of musical contests odd, but you should post what you want... there are no moderators here, this is the wild west! Folks will ignore what they doesn't interest them. Sylvain From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 22 17:46:24 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C56791834D1; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 17:46:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Fsi8qQpghBh/3PR/ZsfSU5WLHUlhVtpyDiLElxiORhY=; b=klLafiP0L5h4N0gb1fsvTqWxoo4Ilbsv72ia/Vokee092NeUkGZQjrF4D8cjOqSEbM uUzA1r9UObS3kWDHXdR9OlVgDgkfpDtrgCB1ijXEYunWYF/b1vmGU4eJqruCnQxC5+jn i8I68mncQMtXgXwfVIWHFUEs6DqCGu3shpo9ZbvBoG1AwBZq+CT8oB5bo6inCVc4FGP/ klGCBDIy2WjShyfI536NdSRBqBZnjMk6OOL8GcSEWhVNU9qfj6OqsREAXWkrEirm1NAA LSEBOS6y0dmpR9UgzXEB2JbnkJOhWP80D/VamGzt6zZ0SBMloHx3f5L8SACPOiUZsKpj 4ziQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.2.227 with SMTP id 3mr2652528oex.113.1363974384204; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:46:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <13A06018-F6FC-405F-B24C-279C8208BA19@att.net> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 13:46:24 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Longtime Member From: George Turcotte To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb1f620a7495e04d8870854 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120586 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 17:46:24 +0000 (UTC) --e89a8fb1f620a7495e04d8870854 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm with you fellers On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > I find the whole notion of musical contests odd, but you should post > what you want... there are no moderators here, this is the wild west! > Folks will ignore what they doesn't interest them. > > Sylvain > > --e89a8fb1f620a7495e04d8870854 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm with you fellers

On Fri, Mar 22, = 2013 at 1:45 PM, Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:
I find the whole notion of musical contests = odd, but you should post
what you want... =A0there are no moderators here, this is the wild west! =A0Folks will ignore what they doesn't interest them.

Sylvain


--e89a8fb1f620a7495e04d8870854-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 22 17:52:26 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C40F81834D0; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 17:52:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0816791421==" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20130322175216.23068.14585.levelstar.mail@everest> Sender: Tyler Reply-to: Tyler From: Tyler Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 13:52:18 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Subject: Re: Longtime Member DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20121106; t=1363974745; bh=dvpprK1G/pQJCV/csmUouDiKwwoFkWLbGspqiDd4E4Y=; h=Received:Received:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-Id:Reply-to: From:Date:To:Subject; b=UOeafOTxdCwLp7ZcnA+haU2FYWcYD2N4UnxZzNzIVDisBnlnJtsJcSgmzK3k37GQF mM0IBKNPcGHKYQs23tOAl/XpBqR01vn2a+ACiLPf3jbFqLhcL+wXb2SwuyAPzTyiLS xhPf0ZNxIlCCBtGsmN8h+DKC9kyYSz7G8JLQjKHXEeYYxdo5ld8w5UoNb8rYoejdxv EQYQ0DLZZjTZ40sZFuimI1tWQKG0sAczoBeWq+lIktNXfgen5Qj9MfL6xFm/jW/WTD +oHFa3urmz1pIG9ucBEWIH+NyJZE2aQFAphOJW1EXn/YUFxQYge5DwiFKfzTmmW6il An3u2JLmeHuWA== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120587 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 17:52:26 +0000 (UTC) Unable to read this email, please upgrage your mail client --===============0816791421== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I=20lost=20the=20thread.=20What=20does=20this=20thread=20have=20to=20do=20w= ith=20musical=20contests? Tyler=20Z On=20Fri,=2022=20Mar=202013=2013:46:24=20-0400,=20George=20Turcotte=20wrote: >I'm=20with=20you=20fellers >On=20Fri,=20Mar=2022,=202013=20at=201:45=20PM,=20Sylvain=20Poitras=20=20 >wrote: >I=20find=20the=20whole=20notion=20of=20musical=20contests=20odd,=20but=20y= ou=20should=20post >what=20you=20want...=20there=20are=20no=20moderators=20here,=20this=20is= =20the=20wild=20west! >Folks=20will=20ignore=20what=20they=20doesn't=20interest=20them. >Sylvain --===============0816791421==-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 22 19:25:18 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 153B71834D0; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 19:25:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: openjam@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Video Contest Longtime Member Message-Id: Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 15:25:14 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20121107; t=1363980316; bh=76b8xkQGHTL8ORzYimU3btrAaN+pXkdf+It4o4yGqHI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=iah7gSQ2+h++Fx+cw3mehDyiCk47DLAuWUFdL/2Czh/lHbbIjD0D3ymL0SgG88/SF ZshoO5Mr4mxmSIfW+CcAXK0f6lYcCC1DWARltbG/ktb6SvSmj/QKNN6/1t6DbdrL5T nod7L6PA5gMGa9cImcx7bgrHdc49w9GQTayYg7cs= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:441190240:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2946514cb01a2d76 X-AOL-IP: 174.101.244.167 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120588 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 19:25:18 +0000 (UTC) Thanks everyone! i appreciate the openness. =20 Please go to = http://community.renmanmb.com/video/music-mentor-musician-todd-quincy Although these are not my typical ambient pieces, but oddly enough my = EDP was used on all of them.=20 I'm open to all comments pro and con so please don't hesitate to share = and sharpen my music. 1. The Video will play. Please click LIKE on the on the bottom of the = vid.=20 2. You will be asked to register 3. Register which you can do with a lame email or your Facebook or = twitter account.=20 4. Your "LIKE will count as a vote for me. Make sure it says "LIKED IT" = if so then you are done. You can only like it one time. A second click = might "Unlike it" Once done, If you are not interested in the site, go to your page, = choose settings on the right, then email on the left. On the bottom you = can opt out of emails and RenmanMB contact. BUT i think you will like = the site for music industry insight. You will get an initial email that = will also allow you this option if you want to test the waters for a = while. VERY IMPORTANT=85can you spread the word with others who you think will = do the same? As I said before sadly it's not just about music and is = partly a popularity contest. Especially those you work with and can help = them at a computer. I NEED VOTES. If you can share to other groups of = musicians that would be awesome.=20 The contest ends Monday. For ease, simply copy and paste this in Facebook or twitter - or simply = email it.=20 Consider helping our good friend Todd Quincy who is competing to be = mentored by former Epic Records VP and current Incubus manager, Steve = Rennie. Simply go to = http://community.renmanmb.com/video/music-mentor-musician-todd-quincy = and follow the link on the left. Click the like button below his video = and sign in with a Facebook or Twitter account or just a basic email. We = really appreciate your support of our friend TQ. Thank you, LLKF tq From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 22 19:55:54 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B98BC1834D1; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 19:55:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=0/AJc3ikcR4/cBkGR+wUD4sdXmylsn5zLFxGf/fZFes=; b=Y854T7QNjAeZrpgsxSLjtR5QaVFUHCd7ZhT4BVPgvXOfzL7PdHPNj22GnY6zZi0gCG 3x7NdQZ3M7IzbJRDWDXDJrxQGvewfVK6+9WCxjfCYA9K+F9QQL5q9jC+cgwiAiLIYkNA a8Dj19TaoBtD3dOIIYRCvablRrl+HRoFwXhEIGWsaFT+MNLgfzLjCll2j3Pfzbw41w91 P7EANaLFL5JhZaqRQjmlu9eywHTjTNw7ex19mXjrGv7WsW8dYTr7hAUT2Y5AsxommDVP zlCQI8AqD1DNDamaIPHcEvFERAhrDi/kMcPDvOPIx2CR1bYk6Dqw+XQVcnMX8nCjz2U3 1mBA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.2.227 with SMTP id 3mr3083143oex.113.1363982154003; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 12:55:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 15:55:53 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: An Echoplex weighs... (?) From: George Turcotte To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb1f620c4f9c904d888d78b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120589 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 19:55:54 +0000 (UTC) --e89a8fb1f620c4f9c904d888d78b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Anybody know the actual weight of an EDP? I've bought one off one of our groupies here and customs wants to know... Thanks, George --e89a8fb1f620c4f9c904d888d78b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Anybody know the actual weight of an EDP? I've bought one off one of our groupies here and customs wants to know...

Thanks,
George
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If you need to contact somebody at Gibson for Echoplex customer serv= ice, repairs, locating a dealer, or other questions their email is <= a href=3D"mailto:service@gibson.com">service@gibson.com. Their phone number is 1-800-444-2766.
 
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Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 1:55 PM
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Anybody know the actual we= ight of an EDP? I've bought one off one of our groupies here and customs wa= nts to know...

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---599881721-1427518094-1363983491=:11364-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 22 21:06:18 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D0781834CE; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 21:06:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 148976.41017.bm@omp1049.mail.ir2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1363986376; bh=mPSCyQqmMoEiUQW6yB4olCA5NmncS5XS4aQIU6EdaUM=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lvcDziPgcQ3yhi9FtGnZ9P3EH2Tf9KJJyCzfNQY0xBMdGiG7gQVbbuDnltZtdmtAggz0FULy47HrJ6sYM2zyW5tmqQWoRHA/Kl2sbsdFHxuwiYlL6uPguBMrjYr+9Z3zRk5qoz90w/iym4USUd+4j3hch2juXsZCEv+cwXiK4uo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=i3tVm2kpCKTjX1nsOJC+31zfTmIN+Ynn8By6Or0nQKMTZIsH/p5yX4cYEo4QxsCW4ThwZqn7jeLfqhYvLUXywtihr4PfNijgpxf1JQ3twP+8vTIVv5tRvuQ45GIuQBSjF8IpnQafmju5ec6vvIzRNVfjW4LfD/Gel4SQ15Xc1O4=; X-YMail-OSG: eD6T.eoVM1kEIgi2Sq_Kcu1dR9csBInI9EoW8fDGYI_47wM 3HZUejmi6yPe7Zba6gaf8AS8_w_D1jBcS3Kv9O8TGAKB4RILQpJID7WzIbrH X_vwyxHsQKvZA0HnuPBGnqpCzxCsau.TA3NFGJPXj5p.TMj6L29dPD.5OSLx q5gtjIlbpS85_aZh6fb81Ja3_OvIJrzI7aKZ0qTojhlbhBLjrqZjsoqrb347 zcrPQpUOkrzh8k.RbAB2u.TIUj4gF5P0t8l9oOsqlvgOiEiwR31KBkyQTcpk sRVVBQT.xgkKQHv.um8sw.zcNjBRVThlK8H7_n7WsTEIo1_urBhG_OaS_fHd CgGLMhZtsUdjzHBA30ssw_uGl.UFlbI3Cqq7JtA23g3O0yD4zH4OQyIW74fQ KPfccZdk5.8dJrgyxblC_y0FWt0EXWRRCH_zi7uQwvGhuIV.LUGUoMg-- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,dGhlIHdpbGQgd2VzdD8gS29vbDotKSBJJ20gYSB3aWxkIGluZGlhbiEKCkFudG9ueQoKCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCiBEZcKgOiBMYXVyaWUgQW1hdCA8dm9pY2Vzb3VuZEBhdHQubmV0PgrDgMKgOiBMb29wZXJzLURlbGlnaHRAbG9vcGVycy1kZWxpZ2h0LmNvbSAKRW52b3nDqSBsZSA6IFZlbmRyZWRpIDIyIG1hcnMgMjAxMyAxOGgzOApPYmpldMKgOiBSZTogTG9uZ3RpbWUgTWVtYmVyCiAKSSBoYXZlIG5vIHByb2JsZW0gd2l0aCBpdCwgb25seSBpZiB5b3UgZ28gYWhlYWQgYW4BMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.138.524 References: <13A06018-F6FC-405F-B24C-279C8208BA19@att.net> Message-ID: <1363986376.24955.YahooMailNeo@web171704.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 21:06:16 +0000 (GMT) From: Antony Hequet Reply-To: Antony Hequet Subject: Re: Longtime Member To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: <13A06018-F6FC-405F-B24C-279C8208BA19@att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="147469114-1206466845-1363986376=:24955" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120591 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 21:06:18 +0000 (UTC) --147469114-1206466845-1363986376=:24955 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable the wild west? Kool:-) I'm a wild indian!=0A=0AAntony=0A=0A=0A_____________= ___________________=0A De=A0: Laurie Amat =0A=C0=A0: Lo= opers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =0AEnvoy=E9 le : Vendredi 22 mars 2013 18= h38=0AObjet=A0: Re: Longtime Member=0A =0AI have no problem with it, only i= f you go ahead and win!=0A=0AOn Mar 22, 2013, at 10:14 AM, openjam@aol.com = wrote:=0A=0A> Hello LD, I've been a member of this group since '97 i think.= I have jumped in and out of the pool often. =0A> =0A> I respect the group = and honor the non-spam manners of it. =0A> =0A> Would you guys mind if I po= sted a link to a Musician's contest that I am in.=A0 It's become a populari= ty contest more so than music and a lot of my competition are not as seriou= s as i think i am about winning with dignity. =0A> =0A> Thanks and I hope y= ou respect and honor my request.=0A> =0A> tq=0A> =0A> --147469114-1206466845-1363986376=:24955 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
the wild west? Kool:-) I'm a wild indian!

Antony
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De : Laurie Amat <voicesound@att.net>=
=C0 : Loopers-Delight@loopers= -delight.com
Envoy=E9 le : Vendredi 22 mars 2013 18h38
Objet : Re: Longtime Member

I have = no problem with it, only if you go ahead and win!

On Mar 22, 2013, a= t 10:14 AM, openjam@aol.com wrote:

> Hello LD, I've been a member = of this group since '97 i think. I have jumped in and out of the pool often= .
>
> I respect the group and honor the non-spam manners of i= t.
>
> Would you guys mind if I posted a link to a Musician's= contest that I am in.  It's become a popularity contest more so than = music and a lot of my competition are not as serious as i think i am about = winning with dignity.
>
> Thanks and I hope you respect and h= onor my request.
>
> tq
>
>



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--147469114-1206466845-1363986376=:24955-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 22 23:01:44 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 15C811834CE; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 23:01:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=GYVlpyPCTbyfnhHckzEEI4TZqteTX+cRG++1hzr0hu8=; b=pLkKacauctX8IpdO0aqHGXyVz2JxUUTbujIkYR+FCwu/SkVje1BN/RF9CcK5bqKPan hw3C/1wxKxZKOuQI2UwkBAlI9sVYdYo6iF4E2pAmTZQZmTTXfYOYAD3ka3zl9kl+/+kh xVcDElYqLaY+iNYL4Mf89ewLNZUekeSE9K1EB3oAhEl/LLAfQWSunZl33r5LBetxCTca xL480cukNmsqWzc0EPzf/IPnqfaumTXwzhnA/8FRnGj7KkeQ9cB2KvKmgnLzLbOpEftb iMBIMHLtcIY4wzjK1xuMv2szHWvkz259Dgo/q+fSOEx6iAVi/Q0rhyXP3LFvjjiU+Rm0 PQ6g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.44.194 with SMTP id g2mr4759850vem.1.1363993303470; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 16:01:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 00:01:43 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: "Producing octaphonic surround concerts" write-up From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120592 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 23:01:44 +0000 (UTC) Since I'm a lazy sunnovabitch it has taken me quite a while but now I have finally published a write-up on surround sound live playing that some list members asked for. In case someone wants to ask specific questions, please do that as a blog comment so more people may benefit from the information. http://www.perboysen.com/surround-live-concert/ Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 23 00:44:04 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6AD11834D1; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 00:44:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1363999443; bh=k1p1FQyIrfACAJEv4DTCZvZ/E4Ztl6B/Y4HxrnnP5LQ=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Subject:Date:Message-Id:To:Mime-Version:X-Mailer; b=Nan+s5c12JTT/VBQyFQKiXniLg4ChCppCk3Lw2X6U58pv7hnK1pkozKetfYQtrNMRFtZV6zeEWr78Zqcvwfo1I+ayN/l+i3pF/+MeyeASIL3AP+a/WGcPCXqdkafuMEjBZBlTaNNPlX7GDr8YNYxVEnI8dqbaY62jjPkFPAYIRM= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 365754.9176.bm@smtp117.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: nfrUqywVM1nbNYuqQdc22cXr8snRqvZvdBX.x2DRhC8BcF7 tkup7LB92P06PxJtA0CQfZv7NlUXNZOZrYWzhkXh6rSgop8xnlhEI_bpJV8n Dw2_W_33dfJO3hv1I26Uk5LiX_..lt63.gyXunQgIhOx2FMAEZndTbOS1MNy NpN3UkzVwpeNNejejMGXmRzCpegK6EWukP7JtKvjJjRCsHK.__5npliyHTnY le2JBXtTw3.0MT6jFKi5ZKmXgThuN4TRakpa_7ixgkQMa31pCGayhHGjneFq wCrQXl2YFdCIj1eoG5hHekg2oHrZKRmCEe3Y51WFcL9pinNCGY.lGY39Xg_t bpAowNNe5sw7Q54wyrzheiuVYJ2I.2yWmqwZlSANvf11GDAvDa3viDmFEotQ zzo0ab90TmizY6yItLhzo9oARjKstRAqbbOFVPUgjUhpC0g-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: ILs26NSswBDuK82.iJb8TCN7cubm0SmUbZYidhSBIQ-- X-Rocket-Received: from [192.168.1.148] (voicesound@108.192.18.28 with plain) by smtp117.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Mar 2013 00:44:03 +0000 UTC From: Laurie Amat Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Binaural Recording Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 17:44:02 -0700 Message-Id: <06AD1964-AEFB-402B-9DF4-6DD47B99BF88@att.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120593 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 00:44:04 +0000 (UTC) Hello,=20 Does anyone know of any binaural recording people in Europe or = Scandinavia? I'm going to be doing some resonant space recording and = other work there, so I'm trying to find some sources. OK, I know it's not electronic looping, but it's acoustic looping in the = right place!= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 23 03:21:52 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 256B51834D0; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 03:21:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <514D1FCC.9030809@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 23:21:48 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen to Thought Radio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120594 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 03:21:52 +0000 (UTC) THOUGHT RADIO http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio My next stint on Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show, will be Saturday, March 23 at 6 am EDT/GMT-4. In Phase One, I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs. I host the show about every other week. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 23 22:44:06 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 206591834CD; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 22:44:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:from:to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:x-mailer; bh=kgmkv8wmbniKyaKvs45Cm5uHrNGhk9/bUVpweIZ7G+E=; b=vQ6lAIabkYXWpYDzgYwc64I9sBdRziW3WoYq7RJKfNK/AGNb3yrC2QRgZUb1MnIL9N 9qkuI8pA+9/0bRHTHpWCcEJgCN1FCM9/0WpBq6z1yaKyJp2s/0NGh/EHqnwmmZeiPkjV H/30sphBGiqXZ6p9lRAcUkg3v9lm8xelO1Jm9kLZiSiLA2BVXWJBJe87VL42zFM+3jhC 0TLnqZBYDNnq/ISPFY03XFLd8Q1IQ0l3Mci5dUyyDIrxL8/xkBpBAdYXwTVTRqj6PuiY b68osi5JQFykD3AY9jDablIyvidgzQQ2kC9S9STerLuiPYSjX7KVZ1A0kStPe//5YZ2G P6pA== X-Received: by 10.66.72.105 with SMTP id c9mr10228716pav.177.1364078644870; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:44:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <840F9DA5-48BF-4022-B5B0-E9D287092FEE@gmail.com> From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5--775615728 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Feedback Raga Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:44:00 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120595 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 22:44:06 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5--775615728 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A minimalist track using a thumb piano with a dish resonator + a piezo mounted on a magnet to amplify the sound. Basically it becomes a feedback device. Audio: https://soundcloud.com/rpcollier/feedback-raga thumb piano photo http://www.flickr.com/photos/41969054@N00/8582523035 magnet pickup photo http://www.flickr.com/photos/41969054@N00/8582523429 regards BobC --Apple-Mail-5--775615728 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

A minimalist track using a thumb piano with a dish resonator + a piezo mounted on a magnet to amplify the sound.
Basically it becomes a feedback device.

Audio:
https://soundcloud.com/rpcollier/feedback-raga

thumb piano photo
http://www.flickr.com/photos/41969054@N00/8582523035

magnet pickup photo
http://www.flickr.com/photos/41969054@N00/8582523429



regards

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 ----------MB_8CFF63797C1B5A8_1BFC_11B671_webmail-d162.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 24 11:06:55 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53E6D1834CC; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:06:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <514EDE4B.10604@soundscapes.us> Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 07:06:51 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Thought Radio Playlist for March 23, 2013. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120597 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:06:55 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/afterglow/playlists/2013/130321.html The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EST/GMT-5 on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am.http://soundscapes.us/afterglow Show #245 March 23, 2013. Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Andy Pickford Senanque Lughnasad 2 (none) Intelligentsia Starseed Music for Motherships (Earth Academy) Intelligentsia Mothership Music for Motherships (Earth Academy) VA [Rudy Adrian] Kintic Flow Sequences No. 23 Arcane A Tale of Unease A Tale of Unease (Paul Lawler Music) Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Randy Granger Awaken Dreamer Strong Medicine (LoneGranger) David Nevue In God's Hands Awakenings (Midnight Rain) David Lanz Green Into Gold Cristofori's Dream... Re- Envisioned (Moon Boy Music) Laura Sullivan Holding Heaven Love's River (Sentient Spirit) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Paul Lawler Thor Hammer OPUS (Paul Lawler Music) Cornucopia Spot On You, Kids Full Horn (Repertoire) Cornucopia And the Madness... Full Horn (Repertoire) Conspiracy Days of Wonder Conspiracy Live (Purple Pyramid) Stick Men Concussion Deep (7D Media) Alan Morse Cold Fusion * Four O'clock and Hysteria (InsideOut) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill Fox ======================================================================== Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EST/GMT-5. Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music. Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Website - http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 24 19:38:49 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 597ED1834D3; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 19:38:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1051 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 19:38:49 UTC From: jrploopers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: rc-300 unsupported format on 16bit/44.1 stereo files Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 20:21:04 +0100 Message-Id: <08C3039C-BB57-4CCA-995E-462AF262C1EC@kliklak.net> To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dallas.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kliklak.net X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: dallas.hostforweb.net: authenticated_id: jrploopers@kliklak.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120598 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 19:38:49 +0000 (UTC) Hi, any RC-300 experts here? Using an RC-300 with files uploaded from computer only, as a playback = machine only. All files have the required 16-bit, 44.1 KHz, stereo, WAV standard and = are named correctly. However, the RC-300 only plays some files and = reports the majority as "unsupported format".=20 Any insights are very welcome as well as offlist messages to = jayrope@gmail.com, as i only get a daily digest from here. Thank you so much! jayrope --- kliklak.net aircushionfinish.com prinzenallee.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 26 16:32:42 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E4711834CC; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 16:32:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 234449.74567.bm@omp1012.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1364315561; bh=K/FBvM4F1jKJ6VzyM1X0ZdJhtac2t3v4f09poBJEdw4=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fPySlnGA9LrCXNad3fF1Lq3CVM1h21JJL1TvVrV9JjNKO81yyjlTU1MMpn/iHtTTr0vjwcAI3tgJK8sj38ffuFS/HNUP1sC00tIZxVPk+vNaGujJIrS9JF/xc9fM0P2aftAVMZJJhDp4sUXBT/vYGdOQb+iO/8r5c41r4+lCXGo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; 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boundary="1167350687-368928005-1364315560=:6987" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120599 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 16:32:42 +0000 (UTC) --1167350687-368928005-1364315560=:6987 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hey Jay!=0Ai recently got a B stock RC300 since ive been asked to do some s= olo gigs where i also have to make people dance=0Aso i started loading some= samples and came across the same problem,the RC300 is very tempermental wi= th samples just like the Jamman Stereo!=0AI made sure i convert all to 16 B= it, stereo 44.1KHZ but not all of them got supported and im still trying to= find out what the problem is=0Ai also came across a problem when you turn = single track on and assign all tracks to be cleared by the loop FX switch= =0Athe RC300 crashes and freezes and you have to turn the unit off and rest= art it,bad bad!=0Ai did a brief video posted the problem here=0A=0Ahttp://w= ww.youtube.com/watch?v=3DZ30GrpMeMhw=0A=0Acan you try this and tells me if = it happens to you as well?=0Ai updated the firmware to the latest v 1.03 be= fore doing this=0AI called Roland here in Germany and they claim my unit is= deffect and that the motherboard is most likely damaged=0Asi ive sent it b= ack but im still curious if thats really the case!=0Athanx=0ALuis=0A=0A=0A= =A0=0Ahttp://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A________________________= ________=0A From: jrploopers =0ATo: loopers-Delight= @loopers-delight.com =0ASent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:21 PM=0ASubject: rc-= 300 unsupported format on 16bit/44.1 stereo files=0A =0AHi, any RC-300 expe= rts here?=0A=0AUsing an RC-300 with files uploaded from computer only, as a= playback machine only.=0AAll files have the required 16-bit, 44.1 KHz, ste= reo, WAV standard and are named correctly. However, the RC-300 only plays s= ome files and reports the majority as "unsupported format". =0A=0AAny insig= hts are very welcome as well as offlist messages to jayrope@gmail.com, as i= only get a daily digest from here.=0A=0AThank you so much!=0A=0Ajayrope=0A= ---=0Akliklak.net=0Aaircushionfinish.com=0Aprinzenallee.com --1167350687-368928005-1364315560=:6987 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hey Jay!
i recentl= y got a B stock RC300 since ive been asked to do some solo gigs where i als= o have to make people dance
so i started loading some samples and came a= cross the same problem,the RC300 is very tempermental with samples just lik= e the Jamman Stereo!
I made sure i convert all to 16 Bit, stereo 44.1KHZ= but not all of them got supported and im still trying to find out what the= problem is
i also came across a problem when you turn single track on a= nd assign all tracks to be cleared by the loop FX switch
the RC300 crash= es and freezes and you have to turn the unit off and restart it,bad bad!i did a brief video posted the problem here

http://www.youtube.com/= watch?v=3DZ30GrpMeMhw

can you try this and tells me if it happens to= you as well?
i updated the firmware to the latest v 1.03 before doing this
I called Roland here in Germany and they claim my unit is de= ffect and that the motherboard is most likely damaged
si ive sent it bac= k but im still curious if thats really the case!
thanx
Luis
<= span>
 
http://www.myspace.com/luisangu= locom
From= : jrploopers <jrploopers@kliklak.net>
To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =
Sent: Sunday, March 2= 4, 2013 8:21 PM
Subject: rc-300 unsupported format on 16bit/44.1 stereo files
=
Hi, any RC-300 experts here?

Using an RC-300 with files uploaded from compu= ter only, as a playback machine only.
All files have the required 16-bit= , 44.1 KHz, stereo, WAV standard and are named correctly. However, the RC-3= 00 only plays some files and reports the majority as "unsupported format". =

Any insights are very welcome as well as offlist messages to jayrope= @gmail.com, as i only get a daily digest from here.

Thank you so= much!

jayrope
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--1167350687-368928005-1364315560=:6987-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 26 18:36:48 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F35D41834D0; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 18:36:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=5A2qvQx4MJtr5NOOV0L1IjZBZ8vUeSD1o4SFtpMiDRw=; b=QtJV5j1pm/0WPv0KC6tlGiU0e3LyQhwf06bJluXDPj2Y9lF9LdajsaZDqOpszkgGCL 3DjmTt6a4ep24PnzJmhqQCx2pwISIbmzg8EnaY6UDHPWNefhW42WOhmzv8QRnLVukP7V PdoGxHd2ettYe5CCKH2RWPeFyImKjJiogd4xkm5zdGFnsmRwWKdZs+tt59aVKVhu2Y7v L5ofUrqR4VWiYpfn7C1r8B+KCkJeuvmtlFIWlx3rn4Pe4GTBCSpXXGwjpr7lpUtJhNE5 2SfPWeKtMwIQ143vyQrPteNkgMvZMzt00U73Zu5a/RUIbRfwJkw+U/ij5yGd73Tmh8KB NU/Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.15.193 with SMTP id z1mr19784242vec.40.1364323007305; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 11:36:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 11:36:47 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: New Bandcamp page / Upcoming Release From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b5d9589359f6704d8d83411 Resent-Message-ID: <7J-oRC.A.TnB._qeURB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120600 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 18:36:47 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b5d9589359f6704d8d83411 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi everyone, I finally took the plunge and signed up on Bandcamp. My new page is http://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com/. Currently "Living Things" and "SoftWetFish" are up there. I'll be uploading a few more records over the next week or so. So far, the deal seems pretty good. You set your own prices. The site takes 15% of digital sales and 10% of physical media sales. The rest goes to the artist. (Compare this to iTunes, where the artist gets about $1 out of a $6 download.) The artist portions go directly to your paypal account. Rather than take 10-15% of each sale, they set it up so that most sales go 100% to the artist, but 1/10 of the sales will go 100% to bandcamp. I'm also putting finishing touches on a new release called "The 3am Music", which will be available in a month or so. -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com http://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com --047d7b5d9589359f6704d8d83411 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everyone,

I finally took the plunge and signed up on Bandcamp. M= y new page is http://mattdavi= gnon.bandcamp.com/. Currently "Living Things" and "SoftW= etFish" are up there. I'll be uploading a few more records over th= e next week or so.

So far, the deal seems pretty good. You set your own prices. The site t= akes 15% of digital sales and 10% of physical media sales. The rest goes to= the artist. (Compare this to iTunes, where the artist gets about $1 out of= a $6 download.) The artist portions go directly to your paypal account. Ra= ther than take 10-15% of each sale, they set it up so that most sales go 10= 0% to the artist, but 1/10 of the sales will go 100% to bandcamp.

I'm also putting finishing touches on a new release called "Th= e 3am Music", which will be available in a month or so.

-- Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
http://mattdavig= non.bandcamp.com
Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com
--047d7b5d9589359f6704d8d83411-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 26 18:46:52 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF7E61834D4; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 18:46:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SL4mGEzilAlOvPN9t1oyPwKP/CdWRZA8zSdQbKJsImQ=; b=Goba4qoSaYWPlTqxoLi30c9rEojId9limt6jR4jtMPKNaoT8aAtrq49AMr3EcEdVYK n2gXar3VKzfz/cASnYIDiT1YPFbQ8oLhW9DTQoWCugHzv3xOIOFk1jouXMMKY1oH7Qpt rdX7louf+UdfYuFb+oOSLU+F3MIcpuPBgltEjNunXS7e/mcAozZiIpe3zIAgRkQd8KY8 t69D39eaLdt/B/MJkiPzBZRly5y0rBeD2UM9C1P5mDG9BPXgeGnvQUOmXSZ9wJINVKUe okSXSBc8ajG0Z8SJHnGPieT+LW8vvpRZxqbX3P9lf75aA9FFDqaU/YXwcHeyysNLXZjC aU5w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.31.103 with SMTP id z7mr17362243vdh.56.1364323612407; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 11:46:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:46:52 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Bandcamp page / Upcoming Release From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120601 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 18:46:52 +0000 (UTC) Cool, Matt. Bandcamp is very useful... I have three or four accounts that I use under the same web site "umbrella", as they do not support "label accounts". The Bandcamp free download codes system is something I could benefit a lot too from when promoting a resent collaboration album release. In case someone you are writing to accepts a digital album promo package you simply send them a code that will allow for one direct download of a ZIP archive that includes both music files and PDF documents for text and images. Saves a lot of money and time compared to sending out several hundreds of CDs in envelopes. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I finally took the plunge and signed up on Bandcamp. My new page is > http://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com/. Currently "Living Things" and > "SoftWetFish" are up there. I'll be uploading a few more records over the > next week or so. > > So far, the deal seems pretty good. You set your own prices. The site takes > 15% of digital sales and 10% of physical media sales. The rest goes to the > artist. (Compare this to iTunes, where the artist gets about $1 out of a $6 > download.) The artist portions go directly to your paypal account. Rather > than take 10-15% of each sale, they set it up so that most sales go 100% to > the artist, but 1/10 of the sales will go 100% to bandcamp. > > I'm also putting finishing touches on a new release called "The 3am Music", > which will be available in a month or so. > > -- > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > http://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com > Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 26 20:45:05 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34E821834D0; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:45:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 447268.23633.bm@omp1057.mail.ir2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1364330703; bh=54MrRrxpAMt0IIc6lc8ZOnzGMg79oqA14ZAiEA7yR30=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=D5ffurxPsrWAqjeBD5fBmDqXzN2va9/I8Uxh2UMmscRInx0AInFVLIdA41/bI5wlgKKze4n96dn856itMTT8OY5oM1QXOXgEntcbJwtrXJZ89QWX5qXjCNDEMCvJda5h93Npc/CbZbAjnmv1/r/YWbAg/QhI1mSo9IYk+xC/810= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mVqstdn5gOtOkwmdm3IN4vO51Gn99KRA25Ji0/9Ht7HZAKLss2cMCQ+gJrUmtSETdlve3Ibdwi9Z4WpgvnCD7QGhv6xDe7e7a96U4/pu30v+bcb7UdqwTxhk/sVUCSLwP3LsJq+VKn+POBaorbjDjEWkD9sRMoNcah9Y48gQjhY=; X-YMail-OSG: 0P87u2kVM1n3oHnzD0iNAV84DX.X_J_Zm_b4fI0CCwjpukG KgZ3Z6oP.f5niLqlzJyEUR34f9_Wx9.0zVnc0uINpaVsW4vFoYGebfbWOo2Z nv.GVXm3tYCwycxmLPXeRFSukBfcVChahEjDXhBJpnKdf8FAKEOY3DY3hDOV hps7B.nnexNRhPlr6CkS9pLSBFVYmbYkwe34U.yBHJbDpjENFPT3AJDNB6Ui j7k70JzEvIKWwLqJf4GIu0tjJAoaaNaw92OaLgZsjINACm7GcDyRT2mWWpBI QKtWSoyThs6dD7oTXBiRL9C4oMOvAwt7y9QbwKiuZUwPRuAX.R9WmAXbBIls LdZSfwqm5EKd5SU9gzidTsumuVOLFrBuMOLwyUIKObWQiez7UREd9MLjoKTC WmHV7Gnl3mWYfmIvjg_78uP00HoWfuhulN7Ooy1O7TFr7R5zg9B4pYkK7ckm AdWNXsqD7oSruhnh9vJPvteCtsdU1e.S5Sol..o5apZ1tuZoR.nCKujtRG9F NxClK_1EhavPq43SW04bMXFKb4zLFzA1pyBLtU7AT3m3zRpEmNkqEJ5E30Ll gW9zLfZwdb57aMJqs6P5qvN__quHHoCyFlU7uIYNiG9Ao.NSURBQFJw7Zemg vmcfkhPjvQcHZexfPMxZlLvlCUmeCLFmrBCNhMC4lKMWj_4AAsobSkMEpeCc VSDn6cniQ.6jPmfMJjWSvE9f3E5xeRWiFKrlMiBfCuG0zT3.59cxQ94_tggk g5XP5wGVJM94ZIouw7ikPc_307YaTUS0viXE6dfwfn97RNW_r0NnUlsqXjtt 39uSewCRtDCDoXEV4NW9ZculxLg9I9Q-- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,VGhlIHRoaW5nIHRoYXQgc3ByaW5ncyB0byBtaW5kIHRvIGNoZWNrIGlzIHRoZSBiaXQgcmF0ZTsgeW91ciBzb3VuZHMgbWlnaHQgYmUgMTYtYml0IDQ0LjFrSHosIGJ1dCBhcmUgdGhleSAxMjgtYml0LCAxOTItYml0LCBjb25zdGFudCBiaXQgcmF0ZSwgdmFyaWFibGUgYml0IHJhdGUsIGV0YyBldGMgPyBUaGF0IG1pZ2h0IGJlIHdoYXQncyB0cmlwcGluZyB0aGUgUkMtMzAwIHVwLiAoTm8gZXhwZXJpZW5jZSBvZiB0aGlzIHdpdGggdGhlIFJDLTMwMCwgYnV0IGhhdmUgYmVlbiBiaXR0ZW4gd2l0aCBpdCBvbiABMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.139.530 References: <08C3039C-BB57-4CCA-995E-462AF262C1EC@kliklak.net> <1364315560.6987.YahooMailNeo@web120704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1364330702.23254.YahooMailNeo@web171604.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:45:02 +0000 (GMT) From: Tony Douglas Reply-To: Tony Douglas Subject: Re: rc-300 unsupported format on 16bit/44.1 stereo files To: Luis Angulo , "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: <1364315560.6987.YahooMailNeo@web120704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="435439028-116628552-1364330702=:23254" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120602 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:45:04 +0000 (UTC) --435439028-116628552-1364330702=:23254 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The thing that springs to mind to check is the bit rate; your sounds might = be 16-bit 44.1kHz, but are they 128-bit, 192-bit, constant bit rate, variab= le bit rate, etc etc ? That might be what's tripping the RC-300 up. (No exp= erience of this with the RC-300, but have been bitten with it on older MP3 = players and such like devices...)=0A=0A- Tony=0A=0A=0A_____________________= ___________=0A From: Luis Angulo =0ATo: "Loopers-De= light@loopers-delight.com" =0ASent: T= uesday, 26 March 2013, 16:32=0ASubject: Re: rc-300 unsupported format on 16= bit/44.1 stereo files=0A =0A=0Ahey Jay!=0Ai recently got a B stock RC300 si= nce ive been asked to do some solo gigs where i also have to make people da= nce=0Aso i started loading some samples and came across the same problem,th= e RC300 is very tempermental with samples just like the Jamman Stereo!=0AI = made sure i convert all to 16 Bit, stereo 44.1KHZ but not all of them got s= upported and im still trying to find out what the problem is=0Ai also came = across a problem when you turn single track on and assign all tracks to be = cleared by the loop FX switch=0Athe RC300 crashes and freezes and you have = to turn the unit off and restart it,bad bad!=0Ai did a brief video posted t= he problem here=0A=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DZ30GrpMeMhw=0A=0Acan = you try this and tells me if it happens to you as well?=0Ai updated the fir= mware to the latest v 1.03 before=0A doing this=0AI called Roland here in G= ermany and they claim my unit is deffect and that the motherboard is most l= ikely damaged=0Asi ive sent it back but im still curious if thats really th= e case!=0Athanx=0ALuis=0A=0A=0A=A0=0Ahttp://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom= =0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: jrploopers =0ATo: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =0ASent: Sunday, Marc= h 24, 2013 8:21 PM=0ASubject: rc-300 unsupported format on 16bit/44.1 stere= o files=0A =0AHi, any=0A RC-300 experts here?=0A=0AUsing an RC-300 with fil= es uploaded from computer only, as a playback machine only.=0AAll files hav= e the required 16-bit, 44.1 KHz, stereo, WAV standard and are named correct= ly. However, the RC-300 only plays some files and reports the majority as "= unsupported format". =0A=0AAny insights are very welcome as well as offlist= messages to jayrope@gmail.com, as i only get a daily digest from here.=0A= =0AThank you so much!=0A=0Ajayrope=0A---=0Akliklak.net=0Aaircushionfinish.c= om=0Aprinzenallee.com --435439028-116628552-1364330702=:23254 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The thing = that springs to mind to check is the bit rate; your sounds might be 16-bit = 44.1kHz, but are they 128-bit, 192-bit, constant bit rate, variable bit rat= e, etc etc ? That might be what's tripping the RC-300 up. (No experience of= this with the RC-300, but have been bitten with it on older MP3 players an= d such like devices...)

- Tony

From: Luis Angulo <= ;louie.angulo@yahoo.com>
To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" <Loopers-Delight@loopers= -delight.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 26 March 2013, 16:32
S= ubject: Re: rc-300 unsupported format on 16bit/44.1 stereo files=

hey Jay!
i recentl= y got a B stock RC300 since ive been asked to do some solo gigs where i als= o have to make people dance
so i started loading some samples and came a= cross the same problem,the RC300 is very tempermental with samples just like the Jamman S= tereo!
I made sure i convert all to 16 Bit, stereo 44.1KHZ but not all o= f them got supported and im still trying to find out what the problem isi also came across a problem when you turn single track on and assign all = tracks to be cleared by the loop FX switch
the RC300 crashes and freezes= and you have to turn the unit off and restart it,bad bad!
i did a brief= video posted the problem here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DZ30G= rpMeMhw

can you try this and tells me if it happens to you as well?<= br>i updated the firmware to the latest v 1.03 before=0A doing this
I ca= lled Roland here in Germany and they claim my unit is deffect and that the = motherboard is most likely damaged
si ive sent it back but im still curi= ous if thats really the case!
thanx
Luis

 
http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
From:<= /b> jrploopers <jrploopers@kliklak.net>
To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:21 = PM
Subject: rc-300 unsu= pported format on 16bit/44.1 stereo files

Hi, any=0A RC-300 experts here?

Using an RC-300 with files uploaded fro= m computer only, as a playback machine only.
All files have the required= 16-bit, 44.1 KHz, stereo, WAV standard and are named correctly. However, t= he RC-300 only plays some files and reports the majority as "unsupported fo= rmat".

Any insights are very welcome as well as offlist messages to= jayrope@gmail.com, as i only get a d= aily digest from here.

Thank you so much!

jayrope
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aircushionfinish.com
prinzenallee.com





--435439028-116628552-1364330702=:23254-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 26 21:50:02 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 432471834D0; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:50:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XbSBzmvdkThC7eZiX0apgODXnIY1eIxkiXv9OvuD8E4=; b=VXoTTeUSsmIkFyiacu+fS/WVtjXmMdzAEMex+Zv333j80Trov3huHvT0INNkJYDKwf 4L17gDQPhcMX8b/YT5K3rScI7wOInJyCuBqtIWjICecJI4kLP9ro1jTSCEJpAFB751Hc Mn2VniA/WtaKuf/0Di/LoZUEXBBWQB1S9OdBvYngpK90DVqDH6Hv9523lQqF88VTnNyT nv/j9jQeUlbN0Z/ByIuQFqy+PP3AItN1RT/Yia1lpsZTdzBrMA54YP8MbJl5IVKBIbXu tMzxZbs9o80s7pJrU6qw3D9hFSFJJnGnka+IU3qshhM6ejEwzk6aXK2m+qSf2VXM+K2B t0Gg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.89.48 with SMTP id bl16mr17844795vdb.120.1364334601202; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 14:50:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 14:50:01 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Bandcamp page / Upcoming Release From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307d03ea42707004d8dae777 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120603 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:50:01 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307d03ea42707004d8dae777 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Do you have to be a "Pro" member to set up download codes? Matt Per Boysen was like: > Cool, Matt. Bandcamp is very useful... I have three or four accounts > that I use under the same web site "umbrella", as they do not support > "label accounts". The Bandcamp free download codes system is something > I could benefit a lot too from when promoting a resent collaboration > album release. In case someone you are writing to accepts a digital > album promo package you simply send them a code that will allow for > one direct download of a ZIP archive that includes both music files > and PDF documents for text and images. Saves a lot of money and time > compared to sending out several hundreds of CDs in envelopes. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Matt Davignon > wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > I finally took the plunge and signed up on Bandcamp. My new page is > > http://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com/. Currently "Living Things" and > > "SoftWetFish" are up there. I'll be uploading a few more records over the > > next week or so. > > > > So far, the deal seems pretty good. You set your own prices. The site > takes > > 15% of digital sales and 10% of physical media sales. The rest goes to > the > > artist. (Compare this to iTunes, where the artist gets about $1 out of a > $6 > > download.) The artist portions go directly to your paypal account. Rather > > than take 10-15% of each sale, they set it up so that most sales go 100% > to > > the artist, but 1/10 of the sales will go 100% to bandcamp. > > > > I'm also putting finishing touches on a new release called "The 3am > Music", > > which will be available in a month or so. > > > > -- > > Matt Davignon > > mattdavignon@gmail.com > > http://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com > > Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com > > -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com http://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com --20cf307d03ea42707004d8dae777 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Do you have to be a "Pro" member to set up download codes?
Matt

Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> was like:
Cool, Matt. Bandcamp is very useful... I hav= e three or four accounts
that I use under the same web site "umbrella", as they do not sup= port
"label accounts". The Bandcamp free download codes system is some= thing
I could benefit a lot too from when promoting a resent collaboration
album release. In case someone you are writing to accepts a digital
album promo package you simply send them a code that will allow for
one direct download of a ZIP archive that includes both music files
and PDF documents for text and images. Saves a lot of money and time
compared to sending out several hundreds of CDs in envelopes.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.y= outube.com/perboysen


On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I finally took the plunge and signed up on Bandcamp. My new page is > http:/= /mattdavignon.bandcamp.com/. Currently "Living Things" and > "SoftWetFish" are up there. I'll be uploading a few more= records over the
> next week or so.
>
> So far, the deal seems pretty good. You set your own prices. The site = takes
> 15% of digital sales and 10% of physical media sales. The rest goes to= the
> artist. (Compare this to iTunes, where the artist gets about $1 out of= a $6
> download.) The artist portions go directly to your paypal account. Rat= her
> than take 10-15% of each sale, they set it up so that most sales go 10= 0% to
> the artist, but 1/10 of the sales will go 100% to bandcamp.
>
> I'm also putting finishing touches on a new release called "T= he 3am Music",
> which will be available in a month or so.
>
> --
> Matt Davignon
> mattdavignon@gmail.com > http://= mattdavignon.bandcamp.com
> Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com




--
Matt Davign= on
mattdavig= non@gmail.com
http://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com
Podcast! ht= tp://ribosomematt.podomatic.com
--20cf307d03ea42707004d8dae777-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 26 22:05:42 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8BB91834D0; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 22:05:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=agwknOnNkBhaE7YVXaK44o2eVE1H3j5VEa/8vYymfNY=; b=DsugYfQEHzjxh6+0xM6tEZIqaiGmQZzlyukyqGOIUJZkCzxszQPr37WOJHvhptBe0v 0MdLwG1MmzUuOK7XLq0CXk/dosBMHUWo5vwLIvqkSqFMWV6Pv9It6f8jQg+FPQeITF2/ 2pTgIuLJDAGSlZ7CdZfx9cLWpkQpMPf2U4/iqe+U2UL3PVBUWFZhU94tXNbhiNwPtVb8 utUpWVX6UU+P8zF1pzgO8b8ns68wqdk2vnJHj+XTtu2WU3FinTz95lGLlAB58loujRfl xDLsXQP8GhPYnICdfBnZcpEAdxIyeM7zjzgUqx3qiiQjm79/xL4TCeauDmWBHKpKTZdp J3fQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.193.129 with SMTP id ho1mr2551338igc.94.1364335542166; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 15:05:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 15:05:42 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Bandcamp page / Upcoming Release From: Todd Elliott To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9341089586dc504d8db1f39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120604 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 22:05:42 +0000 (UTC) --14dae9341089586dc504d8db1f39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 No-- you get something like 200 free downloads; I'm not a 'pro' and I have download codes. You get more codes/free downloads by selling music. T On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > Do you have to be a "Pro" member to set up download codes? > > Matt > > Per Boysen was like: > > Cool, Matt. Bandcamp is very useful... I have three or four accounts >> that I use under the same web site "umbrella", as they do not support >> "label accounts". The Bandcamp free download codes system is something >> I could benefit a lot too from when promoting a resent collaboration >> album release. In case someone you are writing to accepts a digital >> album promo package you simply send them a code that will allow for >> one direct download of a ZIP archive that includes both music files >> and PDF documents for text and images. Saves a lot of money and time >> compared to sending out several hundreds of CDs in envelopes. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.perboysen.com >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Matt Davignon >> wrote: >> > Hi everyone, >> > >> > I finally took the plunge and signed up on Bandcamp. My new page is >> > http://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com/. Currently "Living Things" and >> > "SoftWetFish" are up there. I'll be uploading a few more records over >> the >> > next week or so. >> > >> > So far, the deal seems pretty good. You set your own prices. The site >> takes >> > 15% of digital sales and 10% of physical media sales. The rest goes to >> the >> > artist. (Compare this to iTunes, where the artist gets about $1 out of >> a $6 >> > download.) The artist portions go directly to your paypal account. >> Rather >> > than take 10-15% of each sale, they set it up so that most sales go >> 100% to >> > the artist, but 1/10 of the sales will go 100% to bandcamp. >> > >> > I'm also putting finishing touches on a new release called "The 3am >> Music", >> > which will be available in a month or so. >> > >> > -- >> > Matt Davignon >> > mattdavignon@gmail.com >> > http://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com >> > Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com >> >> > > > -- > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > http://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com > Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com > -- http://toaster.bandcamp.com --14dae9341089586dc504d8db1f39 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No-- you get something like 200 free downloads; I'm not a 'pro'= and I have download codes. You get more codes/free downloads by selling mu= sic.=A0

T


O= n Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com= > wrote:
Do you have to be a "Pro" member t= o set up download codes?

Matt

Per Boysen &= lt;perboysen@gmail= .com> was like:

Cool, Matt. Bandcamp is very useful... I hav= e three or four accounts
that I use under the same web site "umbrella", as they do not sup= port
"label accounts". The Bandcamp free download codes system is some= thing
I could benefit a lot too from when promoting a resent collaboration
album release. In case someone you are writing to accepts a digital
album promo package you simply send them a code that will allow for
one direct download of a ZIP archive that includes both music files
and PDF documents for text and images. Saves a lot of money and time
compared to sending out several hundreds of CDs in envelopes.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.y= outube.com/perboysen


On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi everyone,
>
> I finally took the plunge and signed up on Bandcamp. My new page is > http:/= /mattdavignon.bandcamp.com/. Currently "Living Things" and > "SoftWetFish" are up there. I'll be uploading a few more= records over the
> next week or so.
>
> So far, the deal seems pretty good. You set your own prices. The site = takes
> 15% of digital sales and 10% of physical media sales. The rest goes to= the
> artist. (Compare this to iTunes, where the artist gets about $1 out of= a $6
> download.) The artist portions go directly to your paypal account. Rat= her
> than take 10-15% of each sale, they set it up so that most sales go 10= 0% to
> the artist, but 1/10 of the sales will go 100% to bandcamp.
>
> I'm also putting finishing touches on a new release called "T= he 3am Music",
> which will be available in a month or so.
>
> --
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Teaches me to = read the manual/spec before jumping in !=0A=0AMind you, the manual does hav= e an interesting wee paragraph on limitations...=A0"Maximum WAV file size i= s 1.7GB (total of all files), maximum time is approximately 3 hours (total = of all phrase memories) and minimum time is approximately 1.5 seconds." Any= of those possible explanations ? I shall butt back out of the way again no= w !=0A=0A- Tony=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Tony Doug= las =0ATo: Luis Angulo ;= "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" =0ASent: Tuesday, 26 March 2013, 20:45=0ASubject: Re: rc-300 unsupported = format on 16bit/44.1 stereo files=0A =0A=0AThe thing that springs to mind t= o check is the bit rate; your sounds might be 16-bit 44.1kHz, but are they = 128-bit, 192-bit, constant bit rate, variable bit rate, etc etc ? That migh= t be what's tripping the RC-300 up. (No experience of this with the RC-300,= but have been bitten with it on older MP3 players and such like devices...= )=0A=0A- Tony=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Luis Angulo= =0ATo: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" =0ASent: Tuesday, 26 March 2013, 16:32=0AS= ubject: Re: rc-300 unsupported format on 16bit/44.1 stereo files=0A =0A=0Ah= ey Jay!=0Ai recently got a B stock RC300 since ive been asked to do some so= lo gigs where i also have to make people dance=0Aso i started loading some = samples and came across the same=0A problem,the RC300 is very tempermental = with samples just like the Jamman Stereo!=0AI made sure i convert all to 16= Bit, stereo 44.1KHZ but not all of them got supported and im still trying = to find out what the problem is=0Ai also came across a problem when you tur= n single track on and assign all tracks to be cleared by the loop FX switch= =0Athe RC300 crashes and freezes and you have to turn the unit off and rest= art it,bad bad!=0Ai did a brief video posted the problem here=0A=0Ahttp://w= ww.youtube.com/watch?v=3DZ30GrpMeMhw=0A=0Acan you try this and tells me if = it happens to you as well?=0Ai updated the firmware to the latest v 1.03 be= fore=0A doing this=0AI called Roland here in Germany and they claim my unit= is deffect and that the motherboard is most likely damaged=0Asi ive sent i= t back but im still curious if thats really the case!=0Athanx=0ALuis=0A=0A= =0A=A0=0Ahttp://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A_____________________= ___________=0A From: jrploopers =0ATo: loopers-Deli= ght@loopers-delight.com =0ASent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:21 PM=0ASubject: = rc-300 unsupported format on 16bit/44.1 stereo files=0A =0AHi,=0A any=0A RC= -300 experts here?=0A=0AUsing an RC-300 with files uploaded from computer o= nly, as a playback machine only.=0AAll files have the required 16-bit, 44.1= KHz, stereo, WAV standard and are named correctly. However, the RC-300 onl= y plays some files and reports the majority as "unsupported format". =0A=0A= Any insights are very welcome as well as offlist messages to jayrope@gmail.= com, as i only get a daily digest from here.=0A=0AThank you so much!=0A=0Aj= ayrope=0A---=0Akliklak.net=0Aaircushionfinish.com=0Aprinzenallee.com --1386533404-2056733997-1364335759=:65495 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
D'oh - ign= ore me, it wants 16-bit linear stereo WAV files at 44.1kHz - got it in my h= ead somehow that this beastie was after MP3 files. Teaches me to read the m= anual/spec before jumping in !

Mind you, the manual does have an interesting wee pa= ragraph on limitations... "Maximum WAV file size is 1.7GB (tota= l of all files), maximum time is approximately 3 hours (total of all phrase= memories) and minimum time is approximately 1.5 seconds." Any of those possible explanations ? I shall butt back out of the way again now !
=

- Tony

From: Tony Douglas <tonyisyourpal@yahoo.co.uk>
To: Luis Angulo <louie.angulo@yahoo.c= om>; "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-d= elight.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 26 Ma= rch 2013, 20:45
Subject: Re: rc-300 unsupported format on 16bit/44.1 stereo files
The thing that springs to= mind to check is the bit rate; your sounds might be 16-bit 44.1kHz, but ar= e they 128-bit, 192-bit, constant bit rate, variable bit rate, etc etc ? Th= at might be what's tripping the RC-300 up. (No experience of this with the = RC-300, but have been bitten with it on older MP3 players and such like dev= ices...)

-= Tony

From: Luis Angulo <louie.angulo@yahoo= .com>
To: "Loopers-D= elight@loopers-delight.com" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Tuesday, 26 March 2= 013, 16:32
Subject: Re:= rc-300 unsupported format on 16bit/44.1 stereo files
hey Jay!
i recently got a B stock RC300 since ive= been asked to do some solo gigs where i also have to make people dance
= so i started loading some samples and came across the same=0A problem,the R= C300 is very tempermental with samples just like the Jamman Stereo!
I ma= de sure i convert all to 16 Bit, stereo 44.1KHZ but not all of them got sup= ported and im still trying to find out what the problem is
i also came a= cross a problem when you turn single track on and assign all tracks to be c= leared by the loop FX switch
the RC300 crashes and freezes and you have = to turn the unit off and restart it,bad bad!
i did a brief video posted = the problem here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DZ30GrpMeMhw
can you try this and tells me if it happens to you as well?
i updated t= he firmware to the latest v 1.03 before=0A doing this
I called Roland he= re in Germany and they claim my unit is deffect and that the motherboard is= most likely damaged
si ive sent it back but im still curious if thats r= eally the case!
thanx
Luis

 =
http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
=
From: jrploopers= <jrploopers@kliklak.net>
To= : loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:21 PM
Subject: rc-300 unsupported format= on 16bit/44.1 stereo files

Hi,=0A any=0A RC-300 exp= erts here?

Using an RC-300 with files uploaded from computer only, a= s a playback machine only.
All files have the required 16-bit, 44.1 KHz,= stereo, WAV standard and are named correctly. However, the RC-300 only pla= ys some files and reports the majority as "unsupported format".

Any= insights are very welcome as well as offlist messages to jayrope@gmail.com, as i only get a daily digest from h= ere.

Thank you so much!

jayrope
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--1386533404-2056733997-1364335759=:65495-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 27 13:21:10 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F91C1834D0; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 13:21:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) Subject: Re: New Bandcamp page / Upcoming Release From: openjam@aol.com In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 09:21:08 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7DF6199D-709C-4EEF-9230-DD99FE191EB5@aol.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20121107; t=1364390469; bh=sWSYvq2wFP8ld8vsH+D+Ojh6lD/xo7mAxaPvdudovwo=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=jWSYyxbK91EMimJNMeIcQQI/MRVhD+rdMZ1KXtK/BDtYe4dcW8ctnoLyX7PQW6Su8 sci7dEoIbBgLp8grilNR82wuEny7+xEFMrk/be/eBPxnac6RgM+TyZLippizctZDEJ QQ1hUpZEFeG1p/WUXdktgxthZD2p6wanqU0k+PH8= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:434553536:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33855152f24572ac X-AOL-IP: 71.228.85.232 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120606 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 13:21:10 +0000 (UTC) Todd, how and where did you get the Is Born vinyl? tq On Mar 26, 2013, at 6:05 PM, Todd Elliott wrote: > No-- you get something like 200 free downloads; I'm not a 'pro' and I = have download codes. You get more codes/free downloads by selling music.=20= >=20 > T >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Matt Davignon = wrote: > Do you have to be a "Pro" member to set up download codes?=20 >=20 > Matt >=20 > Per Boysen was like: >=20 > Cool, Matt. Bandcamp is very useful... I have three or four accounts > that I use under the same web site "umbrella", as they do not support > "label accounts". The Bandcamp free download codes system is something > I could benefit a lot too from when promoting a resent collaboration > album release. In case someone you are writing to accepts a digital > album promo package you simply send them a code that will allow for > one direct download of a ZIP archive that includes both music files > and PDF documents for text and images. 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The artist portions go directly to your paypal account. = Rather > > than take 10-15% of each sale, they set it up so that most sales go = 100% to > > the artist, but 1/10 of the sales will go 100% to bandcamp. > > > > I'm also putting finishing touches on a new release called "The 3am = Music", > > which will be available in a month or so. > > > > -- > > Matt Davignon > > mattdavignon@gmail.com > > http://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com > > Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > http://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com > Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > http://toaster.bandcamp.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 27 15:28:55 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0818A1834CF; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 15:28:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=z+upALh/r2n5tY2XAq0UaWsc1mSwF6ElBhZYuBnadvw=; b=J5kijV2bJstVftskq9KsKT2QBbOutwnmA45rjpCytSQUZ/yz/3XXpdjq5VNMeYAFiB E787VIEGvuuzs/Dl9fElDK/vLjtv+MJPjBlqrQCprjW+WhXICI6oTxBogMRdMMzBoabj Dtr6TCaehyLs2N2jaQKMMmjpARAGI6YmZ5C39O52SUvK9O8rbU1JKS/mxf5TPo4UjBba sGFjcnOvIl4Q6DvrnSvqcBkgPu9ivFN0lK4kXJAZ83AxZ0W1mAD+WMJgF1KZvgUG+FTD Pduo9DCh0cURqkMfYHZtOVrRuc3hr5mhurLjUp5TzdWhjf39WXPTlRnZ/Jj6mUY0m4d0 8RBg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.88.233 with SMTP id bj9mr4504368igb.55.1364398132180; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 08:28:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7DF6199D-709C-4EEF-9230-DD99FE191EB5@aol.com> References: <7DF6199D-709C-4EEF-9230-DD99FE191EB5@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 08:28:52 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Bandcamp page / Upcoming Release From: Todd Elliott To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f23440f003cfe04d8e9b2c8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120607 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 15:28:54 +0000 (UTC) --e89a8f23440f003cfe04d8e9b2c8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks for checking out my page. The 'vinyl' is a lathe cut record (lathe cuts are made in real time, as opposed to stamped/pressed), which has the advantage of doing very short runs. A lot of people say they don't sound 'as good' as regular vinyl, but I don't hear much of a difference; but I did choose the track in question with the notion of it becoming lo-fi-i-er in mind (and I have no way of making a 1:1 comparison with 'regular' vinyl). There are a few companies doing it -- most of them are one man operations - I went with Tangible Formats (http://www.tangibleformats.com/index.html), although they were a little pricier than others, they answered their email promptly, and had a much more reasonable turnaround time than most. The most famous lathe cutter is a guy in New Zealand ( http://www.peterkinglathecutrecords.co.nz)-- he can do slightly larger runs, as he owns multiple machines, but by the time you get them back, you'll have paid international postage. From New Zealand. There's also lathecuts.com (http://justinlloydcreative.com/piaptk/lathecuts/); and polycuts (http://www.poly-cut.com). The disadvantage to the format is that it's expensive. I made a profit of zero dollars per record, and if a few kind souls hadn't kicked in a little extra for the EP itself, I would have lost money. But it was a very satisfying thing to do, artistically. T On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 6:21 AM, wrote: > Todd, how and where did you get the Is Born vinyl? > > tq > > On Mar 26, 2013, at 6:05 PM, Todd Elliott wrote: > > > No-- you get something like 200 free downloads; I'm not a 'pro' and I > have download codes. You get more codes/free downloads by selling music. > > > > T > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Matt Davignon > wrote: > > Do you have to be a "Pro" member to set up download codes? > > > > Matt > > > > Per Boysen was like: > > > > Cool, Matt. Bandcamp is very useful... I have three or four accounts > > that I use under the same web site "umbrella", as they do not support > > "label accounts". The Bandcamp free download codes system is something > > I could benefit a lot too from when promoting a resent collaboration > > album release. In case someone you are writing to accepts a digital > > album promo package you simply send them a code that will allow for > > one direct download of a ZIP archive that includes both music files > > and PDF documents for text and images. Saves a lot of money and time > > compared to sending out several hundreds of CDs in envelopes. > > > > Greetings from Sweden > > > > Per Boysen > > www.perboysen.com > > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Matt Davignon > wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > I finally took the plunge and signed up on Bandcamp. My new page is > > > http://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com/. Currently "Living Things" and > > > "SoftWetFish" are up there. I'll be uploading a few more records over > the > > > next week or so. > > > > > > So far, the deal seems pretty good. You set your own prices. The site > takes > > > 15% of digital sales and 10% of physical media sales. The rest goes to > the > > > artist. (Compare this to iTunes, where the artist gets about $1 out of > a $6 > > > download.) The artist portions go directly to your paypal account. > Rather > > > than take 10-15% of each sale, they set it up so that most sales go > 100% to > > > the artist, but 1/10 of the sales will go 100% to bandcamp. > > > > > > I'm also putting finishing touches on a new release called "The 3am > Music", > > > which will be available in a month or so. > > > > > > -- > > > Matt Davignon > > > mattdavignon@gmail.com > > > http://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com > > > Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Matt Davignon > > mattdavignon@gmail.com > > http://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com > > Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com > > > > > > > > -- > > http://toaster.bandcamp.com > > -- http://toaster.bandcamp.com --e89a8f23440f003cfe04d8e9b2c8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for checking out my page.

The 'vinyl' is = a lathe cut record (lathe cuts are made in real time, as opposed to stamped= /pressed), which has the advantage of doing very short runs. A lot of peopl= e say they don't sound 'as good' as regular vinyl, but I don= 9;t hear much of a difference; but I did choose the track in question with = the notion of it becoming lo-fi-i-er in mind (and I have no way of making a= 1:1 comparison with 'regular' vinyl).=A0

There are a few companies doing it -- most of them are = one man operations - I went with Tangible Formats (http://www.tangibleformats.com/index.html= ), although they were a little pricier than others, they answered their ema= il promptly, and had a much more reasonable turnaround time than most. The = most famous lathe cutter is a guy in New Zealand (http://www.peterkinglathecutrecords.co.nz)= -- he can do slightly larger runs, as he owns multiple machines, but by the= time you get them back, you'll have paid international postage. From N= ew Zealand. There's also lathecuts.com= (http://j= ustinlloydcreative.com/piaptk/lathecuts/); and polycuts (http://www.poly-cut.com).=A0

The disadvantage to the format is that it's expensi= ve. I made a profit of zero dollars per record, and if a few kind souls had= n't kicked in a little extra for the EP itself, I would have lost money= . But it was a very satisfying thing to do, artistically.

T


On Wed, = Mar 27, 2013 at 6:21 AM, <openjam@aol.com> wrote:
Todd, how and where did you get the Is Born vinyl?

tq

On Mar 26, 2013, at 6:05 PM, Todd Elliott <toddbert@gmail.com> wrote:

> No-- you get something like 200 free downloads; I'm not a 'pro= ' and I have download codes. You get more codes/free downloads by selli= ng music.
>
> T
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com> wrote:
> Do you have to be a "Pro" member to set up download codes? >
> Matt
>
> Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.= com> was like:
>
> Cool, Matt. Bandcamp is very useful... I have three or four accounts > that I use under the same web site "umbrella", as they do no= t support
> "label accounts". The Bandcamp free download codes system is= something
> I could benefit a lot too from when promoting a resent collaboration > album release. In case someone you are writing to accepts a digital > album promo package you simply send them a code that will allow for > one direct download of a ZIP archive that includes both music files > and PDF documents for text and images. Saves a lot of money and time > compared to sending out several hundreds of CDs in envelopes.
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.perboysen.c= om
> http://= www.youtube.com/perboysen
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I finally took the plunge and signed up on Bandcamp. My new page = is
> > h= ttp://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com/. Currently "Living Things" a= nd
> > "SoftWetFish" are up there. I'll be uploading a few= more records over the
> > next week or so.
> >
> > So far, the deal seems pretty good. You set your own prices. The = site takes
> > 15% of digital sales and 10% of physical media sales. The rest go= es to the
> > artist. (Compare this to iTunes, where the artist gets about $1 o= ut of a $6
> > download.) The artist portions go directly to your paypal account= . Rather
> > than take 10-15% of each sale, they set it up so that most sales = go 100% to
> > the artist, but 1/10 of the sales will go 100% to bandcamp.
> >
> > I'm also putting finishing touches on a new release called &q= uot;The 3am Music",
> > which will be available in a month or so.
> >
> > --
> > Matt Davignon
> > mattdavignon@gmail.com<= /a>
> > ht= tp://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com
> > Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com
>
>
>
>
> --
> Matt Davignon
> mattdavignon@gmail.com > http://= mattdavignon.bandcamp.com
> Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com
>
>
>
> --
> http://toast= er.bandcamp.com




--
= http://toaster.ba= ndcamp.com
--e89a8f23440f003cfe04d8e9b2c8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 27 21:01:29 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FED21834CB; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 21:01:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: Subject: 12-12-12 compilation Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 22:01:21 +0100 Message-ID: <000001ce2b2e$3c1ac380$b4504a80$@de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01CE2B36.9DDF2B80" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac4rLjvF1700/nkVSPu55EmD8+RAhg== Content-Language: de Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120608 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 21:01:29 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01CE2B36.9DDF2B80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable looking forward to Easter sunday - a large compilation of livelooping = music, all recorded last 12th of December (12-12-12) will be officially = released on March 31, 2013 on livelooping.bandcamp.com. At what time = Georgina? will there be champagne? =20 -Michael =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01CE2B36.9DDF2B80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

looking forward to Easter sunday - a large compilation of livelooping music, all recorded last 12th of = December (12-12-12) will be officially released on March 31, 2013 on = livelooping.bandcamp.com. At what time Georgina? will there be = champagne?

 

-Michael=

 

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01CE2B36.9DDF2B80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 27 21:31:27 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 181E81834CE; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 21:31:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0617652476==" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20130327213131.3423.80483.levelstar.mail@everest> Sender: Tyler Reply-to: Tyler From: Tyler Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 17:31:38 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Subject: Re: 12-12-12 compilation DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20121106; t=1364419885; bh=4JT5xu1/Hd2/RlSLln1fmHMj+1E4gsjCmZ0e8rWAoXQ=; h=Received:Received:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-Id:Reply-to: From:Date:To:Subject; b=Zra1bhp4y4IHpeAZxspQZW61DhRNYpp9OL5h2Lgrgq1fmnGBMQBCJk7bwv3wx3DRu FWJIFY2C2T/vc3kU7eLF9HjncLM+laIMcVfdN3DBmb7giL+HxWy3DUnUP/NtIGc3rA Qj3T9NPJUZFf9bhGoucOOn1K01lOKGnuaPbFg6itK7BXHjtyY44Pq+2CZGvX+AIT43 IrqlaPmAiEa2Ju9bwch4n0dB+v4Y8/ucPdxIyPgm+5zyNitkLZzEGGZepuQFQvyHYG d8w7nn+H0XS7pIjjewRbmDCmlsjxMRUIRMMVnyCwqFz1dGmKLvoihsMj+niMsFcYiv wUENEc1FiydEw== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120609 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 21:31:27 +0000 (UTC) Unable to read this email, please upgrage your mail client --===============0617652476== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What?=20I=20was=20on=20this=20list=20during=20December=202012=20(I=20was=20= on=20this=20mailing=20list=20most=20of=202012,=20 actually),=20and=20I=20didn't=20hear=20about=20people=20recording=20loop=20= music=20on=2012-12-12. Tyler=20Z On=20Wed,=2027=20Mar=202013=2022:01:21=20+0100,=20Michael=20Peters=20wrote: >looking=20forward=20to=20Easter=20sunday=20-=20a=20large=20compilation=20o= f=20livelooping=20music,=20 >all=20recorded=20last=2012th=20of=20December=20(12-12-12)=20will=20be=20of= ficially=20released=20on=20 >March=2031,=202013=20on=20livelooping.bandcamp.com.=20At=20what=20time=20G= eorgina?=20will=20there=20 >be=20champagne? >-Michael --===============0617652476==-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 27 22:58:20 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A68F1834D0; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 22:58:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7yXDPgqdvYjCSNtpjQi3PRBQhtZ+KgxEaIV52ZWdBPI=; b=SmFnGsJjxqzlGCQHAwvIwWoeAEEWy7z2bLyoGr1jjSDMdFUXIVq19mEAR4wauL95V2 buR3FhPB3czX7CXbGKcJNpHX7CAlpeDaQYyYs8HFLPuyO7beVLUkREfLsCp5M3xVzrOY gD8Wl/SW6D75ez4Vc7jS5vJHNTjjoA0s0AUGbxl/sqZ+tQkv1nR5Kkdv4Oo0wTZhC70a 8UpJApljb21DtoaK3PGcQG846EeF/NEuKjMaKoHDGuHhx92aIePEnBrwv1HuK4qiw4b9 q7qKRiqA28QX33phb6BdQBpiy2fyLdGD2ek/QY1N9I7CYf3ZWLG+v+oqhD7XAtCftQfF DyYA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.87.170 with SMTP id az10mr12838220wib.3.1364425098580; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 15:58:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 18:58:18 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: "Producing octaphonic surround concerts" write-up From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <2q-JDC.A.RgB.Mm3URB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120610 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 22:58:20 +0000 (UTC) Nice work, Per. Thought I'd share my set-up report too: http://rickygraham.com/2012/05/20/performance-space-frames-features-on-sound-is/ On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Since I'm a lazy sunnovabitch it has taken me quite a while but now I > have finally published a write-up on surround sound live playing that > some list members asked for. In case someone wants to ask specific > questions, please do that as a blog comment so more people may benefit > from the information. > > http://www.perboysen.com/surround-live-concert/ > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 28 16:00:43 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28A2D1834CF; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 16:00:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <51546927.9060807@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 12:00:39 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen to Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8ENiiC.A.9Z.qkGVRB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120611 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 16:00:43 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY http://galactictravels.info Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long Special Focus on ambient pioneer Steve Roach. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 28 23:36:37 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 660411834CB; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 23:36:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=tANvbg3yfOpa+hLuLdxETA9NkuWX9ZESuktV/vT6AQc=; b=VvWdwLZbdxWfY5/T9iYdfG5e/m+zcjAPnEKK+5bLg1vTDkO6gVhjIdMU+GS9y1PsWx 5Ec2ij5+LxkAESDfrhiIGpdBs9J9GHOkxoJWs/dGPkTYK3pR7M2cWIxrEDFh42ePd1VV vDM5WMBXy3+rlmsfnw/CDH9I0huN1sIfDPDIYoT9SKNXvyIZwAsbJeCFWNNkzrEPqK0u WTfuUwvvkyf8C/EaY8mtZep5uPJfHrl2cPqUIAIq0rzwNQkJ8ckRssdU1+5Whpbmu3yQ 2rjUWZIVyx6W/cZ0bo9NcIPJDaCBW85HsMqOP+btaNMQE9s0aAGvso16gRurp/YOgrqd 4+eA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.116.244 with SMTP id jz20mr485836veb.27.1364513796674; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 16:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 16:36:36 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Super Ego with cables From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6d7ca224597404d904a056 Resent-Message-ID: <7l_M-.A.AhD.FQNVRB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120612 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 23:36:37 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b6d7ca224597404d904a056 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Amazon has the Electro-Harmonix Super Ego pedal, with 6 audio cables of varying lengths, for $212. I just placed an order. It says there's 4 left. -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com http://mattdavignon.bandcamp.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com --047d7b6d7ca224597404d904a056 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Amazon has the Electro-Harmonix Super Ego pedal, with 6 audio cables of var= ying lengths, for $212. I just placed an order. It says there's 4 left.=

--
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
http://mattdavig= non.bandcamp.com
Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com
--047d7b6d7ca224597404d904a056-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 29 12:32:40 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E95481834CE; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:32:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: Subject: 12-12-12 on Sunday Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 13:32:27 +0100 Message-ID: <002601ce2c79$79f24ab0$6dd6e010$@de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0027_01CE2C81.DBB6B2B0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac4seXkEgXppYJfeTTaWUAWg9ZqYVQ== Content-Language: de Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120613 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:32:39 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01CE2C81.DBB6B2B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable news about the upcoming 12-12-12 livelooping compilation album (and = download link for the beautiful booklet created by Gaetano) on = livelooping.org =20 http://www.livelooping.org/musicians/compilation-albums =20 -Michael =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01CE2C81.DBB6B2B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

news about the upcoming 12-12-12 livelooping compilation album (and download link = for the beautiful booklet created by Gaetano) on = livelooping.org

 

= http://www.livelooping.org/musicians/compilation-albums=

=  

= -Michael

=  

 

------=_NextPart_000_0027_01CE2C81.DBB6B2B0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 29 12:36:44 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6F961834D2; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:36:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: <20130327213131.3423.80483.levelstar.mail@everest> In-Reply-To: <20130327213131.3423.80483.levelstar.mail@everest> Subject: RE: 12-12-12 compilation Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 13:36:35 +0100 Message-ID: <003f01ce2c7a$0cee0200$26ca0600$@de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac4rMnax+pZJarIoQ5yQbOnqONP9RwBR0nCA Content-Language: de Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120614 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:36:44 +0000 (UTC) > What? I was on this list during December 2012 (I was on this mailing = list most of 2012, actually), and I didn't hear about people recording = loop music on 12-12-12. if this was so, it seems to be an example for livelooping discussions = slowly moving away from the mailing list and towards Facebook. This = project was planned mostly on Facebook I seem to remember. (Is there a = Facebook client for the visually impaired Tyler?) -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 29 12:58:24 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5D6F1834CF; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:58:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1040009191==" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20130329125808.7566.87884.levelstar.mail@everest> Sender: Tyler Reply-to: Tyler From: Tyler Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 08:58:10 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Subject: RE: 12-12-12 compilation DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20121106; t=1364561903; bh=T1q5g7pgRyex3eUzaVrofT+yGXyMlXt7s5HmUdUuYPQ=; h=Received:Received:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-Id:Reply-to: From:Date:To:Subject; b=hF3TA8Nx5z3L8AmTEDaJyCYo/4I1cAX74VAB/tq/YWG7hFilVyuRC4OjWE1SIPsZL xYc5Eut2ShU3Ksxi8/mY5euH3uE7XMdEzK9UY5DXrcDB3HuG2Ni+TsACJniZm/1dTN 782so+Uxv1yRkgG4IL9yc45VIT3fctf8wEzLQEwdkX1rJK+sgwFuKxbvLeiGgajpXw UYFOjBss6ddSJHsZGiOTIK1+jH7ksXrSHbqV6pVr3qZPlAv4IU/c/OC5ZDPR8fEaVi fxgzyBUaSdex8SK8JZd0405X9hfGnq+5/eTVMqBO/UIxwmFpM9hzJ/JCNxmOPtA6K8 1Gxcr5HoITfIg== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120615 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:58:24 +0000 (UTC) Unable to read this email, please upgrage your mail client --===============1040009191== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes.=20I=20use=20it=20daily.=20I'm=20part=20of=20the=20Looper's=20Delight,= =20but=20I=20mostly=20focus=20on=20the=20mailing=20 list,=20because=20that's=20what=20the=20loopers=20have=20been=20used=20to= =20since=201996.=20Even=20though=20I'm=20a=20newbie,=20I=20want=20 to=20have=20the=20same=20feeling=20the=201996ers=20had,=20and=20since=20the= =20mailing=20list=20is=20active,=20why=20not? Tyler=20Z On=20Fri,=2029=20Mar=202013=2013:36:35=20+0100,=20Michael=20Peters=20wrote: >>What?=20I=20was=20on=20this=20list=20during=20December=202012=20(I=20was= =20on=20this=20mailing=20list=20most=20 >>of=202012,=20actually),=20and=20I=20didn't=20hear=20about=20people=20reco= rding=20loop=20music=20on=20 >>12-12-12. > > >if=20this=20was=20so,=20it=20seems=20to=20be=20an=20example=20for=20livelo= oping=20discussions=20slowly=20 >moving=20away=20from=20the=20mailing=20list=20and=20towards=20Facebook.=20= This=20project=20was=20 >planned=20mostly=20on=20Facebook=20I=20seem=20to=20remember.=20(Is=20there= =20a=20Facebook=20client=20for=20 >the=20visually=20impaired=20Tyler?) > > >-Michael > > > --===============1040009191==-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 29 14:37:47 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 988351834D2; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:37:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=FpwNZwnr6Rs4PoLg6NlYUNkdHC1iUy3vPOlG46PZ/Z8=; b=ZoqMo972BGDgGnhn1A2o5XKij+J9L8I0Qmz/oYxwS3BRi7fLgrLLIItg9/f26GZQ5l /QseYpEU2IY82mzfdofuXhiFRryzOgB98vkdBnWfzCTODI1l/wNY4yitWLDqbBc0NG7L UnS534UWUIAzdj1Llah0fgi7JOImdu7jSG3uu5SGuIogoaUCsBmqw/+XmAgf6b+OtZjC z5tfnxyp5H04Ab1jfslcu9QsOdIiopUtOU62g5mcR2fiXveO4k+WfDUFWLwejTFyO1SW 2+lSarcH1d/TDGGD4RH8xk2DZr/ifPZjTiJtnE/Z8KsMzy9Pa2NBh12ZSAPX9Ga+4J+O W0fQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.60.196 with SMTP id j4mr986918oer.39.1364567866763; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 07:37:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130329125808.7566.87884.levelstar.mail@everest> References: <20130329125808.7566.87884.levelstar.mail@everest> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 10:37:46 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 12-12-12 compilation From: George Turcotte To: Tyler Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01538b7cf86e4804d911360d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120616 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:37:47 +0000 (UTC) --089e01538b7cf86e4804d911360d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'd love to contribute to a future loop compilation. gt On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Tyler wrote: > Yes. I use it daily. I'm part of the Looper's Delight, but I mostly focus > on the mailing > list, because that's what the loopers have been used to since 1996. Even > though I'm a newbie, I want > to have the same feeling the 1996ers had, and since the mailing list is > active, why not? > Tyler Z > On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 13:36:35 +0100, Michael Peters wrote: > > > >>What? I was on this list during December 2012 (I was on this mailing > list most > >>of 2012, actually), and I didn't hear about people recording loop music > on > >>12-12-12. > > > > > >if this was so, it seems to be an example for livelooping discussions > slowly > >moving away from the mailing list and towards Facebook. This project was > >planned mostly on Facebook I seem to remember. (Is there a Facebook > client for > >the visually impaired Tyler?) > > > > > >-Michael > > > > > > > > --089e01538b7cf86e4804d911360d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'd love to contribute to a future loop compilation.

gt

<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Tyler <programmer651@comcast.net> wrote:
Yes. I use it daily. I'm part of the Loo= per's Delight, but I mostly focus on the mailing
list, because that's what the loopers have been used to since 1996. Eve= n though I'm a newbie, I want
to have the same feeling the 1996ers had, and since the mailing list is act= ive, why not?
Tyler Z
On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 13:36:35 +0100,= Michael Peters wrote:


>>What? I was on this list during December 2012 (I was on this mailin= g list most
>>of 2012, actually), and I didn't hear about people recording lo= op music on
>>12-12-12.
>
>
>if this was so, it seems to be an example for livelooping discussions s= lowly
>moving away from the mailing list and towards Facebook. This project wa= s
>planned mostly on Facebook I seem to remember. (Is there a Facebook cli= ent for
>the visually impaired Tyler?)
>
>
>-Michael
>
>
>


--089e01538b7cf86e4804d911360d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 29 14:45:31 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F37531834D5; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:45:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=1BVvJyyJpVIOCikOP21opkuwDGGTXqkqGGmpzICz2ZI=; b=c4hyoBMUGVE/ZNkqd3JccMyFlY1FFsvPvJSfwsCaaF6HJRrN5/+TtXXyPosh8ewYVi VsBZ/DF7eIvRNgFbeAGlyGxA6E3Ke9aDPj6mXxENXqVf1g4u/rrgokCJdJF0ubX/lH8z YdPUvQqlJdUgvEM3gCm/HvCFBPVX7D2g3u9MzQIPDSlZ9ZT84PQdeJka8lX5GiBDzy9G oTdiAovimpSpNSSWb9/esNOlwOSEiN/FeqzYuIKo5NoVlMDm1pqHo3d0P4905TzHq2VE XqOx61bhpqQZm2iQgDRCd2lO3O1EBT98b2UAIfJAeSiiE6BH6b+H0cVR83aPAMsg8pDw 4mLg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.115.34 with SMTP id jl2mr982393obb.9.1364568330154; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 07:45:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20130329125808.7566.87884.levelstar.mail@everest> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 06:45:30 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 12-12-12 compilation From: Dennis Moser To: loopers-delight Cc: Tyler Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d044481419739f304d91152b6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120617 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:45:30 +0000 (UTC) --f46d044481419739f304d91152b6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's also an issue of thread drift: people NOT changing the "Subject" line on their responses here=85we're all guilty of it and if you look carefully through some of the monster threads of discussion, you'll see how the subject of discussion has changed, often tremendously, from what was the original subject thread. Do you see how I just did that? *NOT SO EVIL GRIN It's Friday =97 best to all, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 6:37 AM, George Turcotte wr= ote: > I'd love to contribute to a future loop compilation. > > gt > > > On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Tyler wrote: > >> Yes. I use it daily. I'm part of the Looper's Delight, but I mostly focu= s >> on the mailing >> list, because that's what the loopers have been used to since 1996. Even >> though I'm a newbie, I want >> to have the same feeling the 1996ers had, and since the mailing list is >> active, why not? >> Tyler Z >> On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 13:36:35 +0100, Michael Peters wrote: >> >> >> >>What? I was on this list during December 2012 (I was on this mailing >> list most >> >>of 2012, actually), and I didn't hear about people recording loop musi= c >> on >> >>12-12-12. >> > >> > >> >if this was so, it seems to be an example for livelooping discussions >> slowly >> >moving away from the mailing list and towards Facebook. This project wa= s >> >planned mostly on Facebook I seem to remember. (Is there a Facebook >> client for >> >the visually impaired Tyler?) >> > >> > >> >-Michael >> > >> > >> > >> >> > --f46d044481419739f304d91152b6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It's also an issue of thread drift: people NOT changin= g the "Subject" line on their responses here=85we're all guil= ty of it and if you look carefully through some of the monster threads of d= iscussion, you'll see how the subject of discussion has changed, often = tremendously, from what was the original subject thread.

Do you see how I just did that?

*NOT SO EVIL GRIN

It= 9;s Friday =97 best to all,

Dennis



On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 6:37 AM, George = Turcotte <rhythmrhymer@gmail.com> wrote:
I'd love to contribute to a future loop compilation.

gt
<= div class=3D"h5">

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at= 8:58 AM, Tyler <programmer651@comcast.net> wrote:
Yes. I use it daily. I'm part of the Loo= per's Delight, but I mostly focus on the mailing
list, because that's what the loopers have been used to since 1996. Eve= n though I'm a newbie, I want
to have the same feeling the 1996ers had, and since the mailing list is act= ive, why not?
Tyler Z
On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 13:36:35 +0100, Michael Peters wrote:


>>What? I was on this list during December 2012 (I was on this mailin= g list most
>>of 2012, actually), and I didn't hear about people recording lo= op music on
>>12-12-12.
>
>
>if this was so, it seems to be an example for livelooping discussions s= lowly
>moving away from the mailing list and towards Facebook. This project wa= s
>planned mostly on Facebook I seem to remember. (Is there a Facebook cli= ent for
>the visually impaired Tyler?)
>
>
>-Michael
>
>
>



--f46d044481419739f304d91152b6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 29 14:57:00 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A05861834D8; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:57:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Z4tTz5cPu8jJKhgmRFUtPFrvZwdsbfWJ6RwtSoZQfhk=; b=TXjEqF2xDHVgOGHJNFmFHRWrl+oguPeD9Uqshwk/UG9W4FhVdXHJzYiZzRpztwhBkV vmBhxHSTfqqB0Fh3AyZ5//8FMSwcCxdm0njxGUvT0UuTQJ5wD+goNiVRR3OnPZLA3emq wFeD9E3unXzLj/pHZMy2DH2EK5rklU7Ctqh930BphbqV0rt5OmhTLtNs+YItyH0d/N2n T2JFpC8eHa5GLcHCBS8esGTwsZ1l8ePb11i/7eYCVJxoG2OIEUTHbhNcGseJ/VzK9XuH y4wXY2wOLhggkVS+/ucE18bMaz7XYFermPmw5gLDqJdQn3M4gw/8pNnS6WZ9o9NQaTFa 3cZw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.216.9 with SMTP id hg9mr4712198qab.44.1364569019984; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 07:56:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <002601ce2c79$79f24ab0$6dd6e010$@de> References: <002601ce2c79$79f24ab0$6dd6e010$@de> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 10:56:59 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 12-12-12 on Sunday From: Sylvain Poitras To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf300512feb5317c04d9117b64 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120618 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:57:00 +0000 (UTC) --20cf300512feb5317c04d9117b64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Nice work, Gaetano! On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > news about the upcoming 12-12-12 livelooping compilation album (and > download link for the beautiful booklet created by Gaetano) on > livelooping.org**** > > ** ** > > http://www.livelooping.org/musicians/compilation-albums**** > > ** ** > > -Michael**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > --20cf300512feb5317c04d9117b64 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nice work,=A0Gaetano!


On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Mic= hael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:

news about the upcomin= g 12-12-12 livelooping compilation album (and download link fo= r the beautiful booklet created by Gaetano) on livelooping.org

=A0

http://www.livelooping.= org/musicians/compilation-albums

=A0

-Michael

=A0

=A0


--20cf300512feb5317c04d9117b64-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 29 14:58:22 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 339EB1834D7; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:58:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4eicESG3zxcItqJTzS6UZDvpbocc05Y+tGw0+L2g3YQ=; b=qMD8+pcxbohudga5kRPiXNRL2+rW6pP3BNr0HH9SpCDZDtHF7dQ6lDoDLs8ypO+679 1ewIGEbhq32Xpn7xJPyozPW8WAl2Y0PbYNoZT/R+/TGkFtmz4RxYISZvq644dZaAKJRP fHLdr4gmMI2RztBhBK3bUsAD23YRLa7neKU2pm2/PeDPGv7VkbvMGepHLxCMxAE0yfT0 k2++mA5eJzDBJE2R9U0un0GObAr2Om38+CxvOGFti2Nz4UVUn9pi42Y2gYnz9H11ywYu SibFReqI+k/FKetzuPQ39nTKso7/eFvDw+k4VLNM3I/86HhZ284qB6XL5zrGAUF209Nz F32g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.110.205 with SMTP id o13mr2093298vcp.22.1364569101504; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 07:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 15:58:21 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: 13-13-13 compilation (was: Re: 12-12-12 compilation) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120619 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:58:22 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Dennis Moser wro= te: > Do you see how I just did that? Yep. I just did too! :-) > > *NOT SO EVIL GRIN > > It's Friday =E2=80=94 best to all, But not yet Friday 13th! That would be the perfect day for everyone to record your submissions for the "13-13-13" compilation. Theme: Music must be based on "bad luck", i.e. a mistake being used creatively to turn the luck around. Just a funny idea... but thinking about it; a lot of the most interesting discussions on this list have dealt with the fact that you actually can re-build a mistake as a pod to take us into the unknown for new exciting musical adventures. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 29 15:43:23 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E1F01834D8; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 15:43:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2249 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 15:43:22 UTC Message-ID: <02E756D4E9704DCBBAD9F6E587CE8C8D@ELUS1> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: 13-13-13 compilation (was: Re: 12-12-12 compilation) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:05:58 -0400 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3555.308 X-Authenticated-User: spgoodman@earthlight.net Resent-Message-ID: <3naReB.A.SLC.babVRB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120620 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 15:43:23 +0000 (UTC) Indeed, Per! All of the pieces I've done that start out dark emerge into light. Include me on this one? -----Original Message----- From: Per Boysen Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 10:58 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: 13-13-13 compilation (was: Re: 12-12-12 compilation) On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Dennis Moser wrote: > Do you see how I just did that? Yep. I just did too! :-) > > *NOT SO EVIL GRIN > > It's Friday — best to all, But not yet Friday 13th! That would be the perfect day for everyone to record your submissions for the "13-13-13" compilation. Theme: Music must be based on "bad luck", i.e. a mistake being used creatively to turn the luck around. Just a funny idea... but thinking about it; a lot of the most interesting discussions on this list have dealt with the fact that you actually can re-build a mistake as a pod to take us into the unknown for new exciting musical adventures. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 29 15:47:35 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F4CC1834D2; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 15:47:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pmcya6SppYdmf2G072L95PLePEGjwdDRjTz4/kGY3XA=; b=akPYouwvBrNXYVzHw2iqCx4+V+CRw0JQuT4Y5jDF0E3ud1OuiufDe9I9KT+6T7KkbD MRCY7/n8WqKqfLDm6p1Iu8aeng+YjAb9UtOHeWrGeQ7sQzhhEVPgG/N56SpLGhlVd57U jWRFtpzNbtVQb4315+6INMwZjjLlWPA/lAnv7BNZHCAiVwAFeTYCBHJYnZc+8ZDx++nw twXs4LdjuZKmc062GCpZ3nT7R0oQB5qSBOcn+CWycxGROHH9XYLCF+KnDWerOXq79Yt0 uLRKqjibEa7JhFIrwxnQNIC77Ui9X2wQydImdsIdpqmbbIIQNXWYmIMNLo5+MWYi1Lu8 Rg/A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.171.50 with SMTP id ar18mr997468oec.24.1364572054633; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 08:47:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 07:47:34 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 13-13-13 compilation (was: Re: 12-12-12 compilation) From: Dennis Moser To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec550af3a96422b04d912303e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120621 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 15:47:35 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec550af3a96422b04d912303e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hehehe=85nicely done there, Per! ~~Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Dennis Moser > wrote: > > Do you see how I just did that? > > Yep. I just did too! :-) > > > > > *NOT SO EVIL GRIN > > > > It's Friday =97 best to all, > > But not yet Friday 13th! That would be the perfect day for everyone to > record your submissions for the "13-13-13" compilation. Theme: Music > must be based on "bad luck", i.e. a mistake being used creatively to > turn the luck around. > > Just a funny idea... but thinking about it; a lot of the most > interesting discussions on this list have dealt with the fact that you > actually can re-build a mistake as a pod to take us into the unknown > for new exciting musical adventures. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > --bcaec550af3a96422b04d912303e Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hehehe=85nicely done =A0there, Per!

~~Dennis



On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Per Boy= sen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:
> Do you see how I just did that?

Yep. I just did too! :-)

>
> *NOT SO EVIL GRIN
>
> It's Friday =97 best to all,

But not yet Friday 13th! That would be the perfect day for everyone to
record your submissions for the "13-13-13" compilation. Theme: Mu= sic
must be based on "bad luck", i.e. a mistake being used creatively= to
turn the luck around.

Just a funny idea... but thinking about it; a lot of the most
interesting discussions on this list have dealt with the fact that you
actually can re-build a mistake as a pod to take us into the unknown
for new exciting musical adventures.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.y= outube.com/perboysen


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Cheers, Jannis Von meinem iPhone gesendet From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 30 12:35:57 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8348A1834D2; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 12:35:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <5156DC29.3020000@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 08:35:53 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #834 for March 28, 2013. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2ePqO.A.5YF.twtVRB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120623 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 12:35:57 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2013/130328.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #834 March 28, 2013. WDIY Playlist: http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels?playlist_date=03-28-2013 RECAP: On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Steve Roach. The Featured CD at Midnight was disk two from "Journey of One" on Projekt Records.http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2013/focus.html#mar PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Andy Pickford Phoenix EP#6 Phoenix (none) Chuck Van Zyl Forever Distant Cenotaph (Synkronos) Dan Pound Through the Center Spherical (Poundsounds) Steve Roach and Midnight Migration Tales From the Ultra Tribe Byron Metcalf (Projrekt) Premonition Factory Tunnel Vision The Theory of Nothing (none) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Steve Roach Part 1 Journey of One d2 (Projekt) Steve Roach Part 2 Journey of One d2 (Projekt) Steve Roach Part 3 Journey of One d2 (Projekt) Steve Roach Part 4 Journey of One d2 (Projekt) Steve Roach Part 5 Journey of One d2 (Projekt) Steve Roach Part 6 Journey of One d2 (Projekt) Steve Roach Part 7 Journey of One d2 (Projekt) Matt Borghi and Constant Apex * Convocation (Slobor Media) Michael Teager 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on Ken Elkinson. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Music for Commuting Volumes 1-2".http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2013/focus.html#apr WDIY Announcement: http://wdiy.org/post/next-galactic-travels-2013-04-04 Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 31 17:32:51 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E48211834D0; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 17:32:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 430 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 17:32:51 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Re: New Bandcamp page / Upcoming Release From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 10:25:39 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <903EB676-DBAC-4C91-9AB5-C42879945F5B@grubmah.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120624 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 17:32:51 +0000 (UTC) On Mar 26, 2013, at 11:36 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > So far, the deal seems pretty good. You set your own prices. The site = takes 15% of digital sales and 10% of physical media sales. The rest = goes to the artist. (Compare this to iTunes, where the artist gets about = $1 out of a $6 download.) The artist portions go directly to your paypal = account. Rather than take 10-15% of each sale, they set it up so that = most sales go 100% to the artist, but 1/10 of the sales will go 100% to = bandcamp. Ancient (2006) numbers, but the breakdown on iTunes used to be: "Currently, for a 99-cent song, 72 cents goes to the label, and 8 cents = to the publisher, leaving Apple's per-song profit margin at 19 cents per = song, he said." = http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/03/AR20060303= 01852.html So, yes, Bandcamp is better for artists. In Apple's defense, they aren't there to serve musicians. They are there = to serve the people buying music and their focus is on making that = process work well. Bandcamp becomes yet one more place to entrust with = your credit card number. I suspect that Tower Records, when it existed, = got a similar cut. So, if it were just about the distributor cut, what = Apple would essentially be offering is a better, broader distribution = channel (more potential sales) but with a higher margin. On the other hand, that still leaves the musician figuring out how much = of the remaining 80% he or she can get. Apple hasn't set themselves up = to deal with independent musicians so the musician is left with record = labels serving as middle men. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 31 18:21:41 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D644A1834D1; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 18:21:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 430 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 18:21:41 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Distribution (was Re: New Bandcamp page / Upcoming Release) From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <903EB676-DBAC-4C91-9AB5-C42879945F5B@grubmah.com> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 11:14:29 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <903EB676-DBAC-4C91-9AB5-C42879945F5B@grubmah.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120625 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 18:21:41 +0000 (UTC) On Mar 31, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > On Mar 26, 2013, at 11:36 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: >=20 >> So far, the deal seems pretty good. You set your own prices. The site = takes 15% of digital sales and 10% of physical media sales. The rest = goes to the artist. (Compare this to iTunes, where the artist gets about = $1 out of a $6 download.) The artist portions go directly to your paypal = account. Rather than take 10-15% of each sale, they set it up so that = most sales go 100% to the artist, but 1/10 of the sales will go 100% to = bandcamp. >=20 > Ancient (2006) numbers, but the breakdown on iTunes used to be: >=20 > "Currently, for a 99-cent song, 72 cents goes to the label, and 8 = cents to the publisher, leaving Apple's per-song profit margin at 19 = cents per song, he said." >=20 > = http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/03/AR20060303= 01852.html >=20 > So, yes, Bandcamp is better for artists. >=20 > In Apple's defense, they aren't there to serve musicians. They are = there to serve the people buying music and their focus is on making that = process work well. Bandcamp becomes yet one more place to entrust with = your credit card number. I suspect that Tower Records, when it existed, = got a similar cut. So, if it were just about the distributor cut, what = Apple would essentially be offering is a better, broader distribution = channel (more potential sales) but with a higher margin. >=20 > On the other hand, that still leaves the musician figuring out how = much of the remaining 80% he or she can get. Apple hasn't set themselves = up to deal with independent musicians so the musician is left with = record labels serving as middle men. So, what's the current feeling on TuneCore v CDBaby for iTunes and other = distribution? Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 31 19:12:54 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F11B01834CE; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 19:12:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=YAaM9o7GBk/0fX06rG/tp+IErbuqbqhW7c4jRechO3s=; b=HR7TjVH/Nis28t5g8InjF5hVnFeBQxV58iXifMhv39wE+8yeLZW/zriNwxMuSBx3d1 bY49z2bYj3vaiVfcpowEt61oWGerPS1LY/gKUXeVH/D3RRWlgT+smwSaab7GfWfNKNXh Czgfmoz4x6rnmBimB6aRPlkg9mmyHAeOUGp7HqUEf7eE65NMNgEQ0DiAJMaFzCmBMwTF pO6+kE8DUpO1DqXZaWLuhKDWIDSG3ztv0/VGBR850YXoYopOVcBoJhZrgZacyvbsZqOa G1pbw+uJVDUs84iAy8bfQrqSzIINsAuYh88HQcSJbxxDHHj5JQfk77Wa10U4HnO7pxt/ nRPA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.31.103 with SMTP id z7mr6236777vdh.56.1364757173385; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 12:12:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <903EB676-DBAC-4C91-9AB5-C42879945F5B@grubmah.com> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:12:53 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Distribution (was Re: New Bandcamp page / Upcoming Release) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51ddd498643ab04d93d4aaf Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120626 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 19:12:53 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec51ddd498643ab04d93d4aaf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > So, what's the current feeling on TuneCore v CDBaby for iTunes and other > distribution? I think they are just aggregators so the least expensive would be the best one. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen --bcaec51ddd498643ab04d93d4aaf Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Mark Hamburg <mark@grubmah.com> wrote:
So, what's the current feeling on TuneCo= re v CDBaby for iTunes and other distribution?


I think they are just aggregators so the least expensive woul= d be the best one.=C2=A0

--bcaec51ddd498643ab04d93d4aaf-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 31 20:36:25 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E1C61834CE; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 20:36:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=B8Xm52gWULR4fFOzphpn50aY5z5ZRpowge0smsyqlhI=; b=OCoxZh3nAgPQcHhePYPnuacm+rZE+qc9o6Qxc3AZkPQ/s+a2ASWKLU268P5C1b8tGn I0lDi9kZnkVyjdz98LXiScey0ZKl1lkJHjyOVzLYcwfB2bv7sH/GyQPzX2u0yqBBg2rc U6WBCNcPOxhlnyVoDI/YiD+NbxTkZTPFE8muS6guONN2x/mMa2H07ROFeX4SuzIv4zee kJXgnFnhYEf85QzGtDaELLqpAh8nQ2HsSVBHQEPb9UYj5tRQZgQx+goo6qA18SEV7Euv on3btQjdLsVTm6VOvGzgkQ5hjJT83+HGiGCkce5OrswkmEa1DZef97mFEyvV0hod8ImN ekFA== X-Received: by 10.68.179.1 with SMTP id dc1mr14699440pbc.128.1364762183365; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 13:36:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51589E46.8070709@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 13:36:22 -0700 From: 7stringjazz Reply-To: 7stringjazz@gmail.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Any news on the LP1? References: <5080839B.2090008@pobox.com> <5081B515.2030303@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060801070808060108040605" X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmV59cG5jmJ9QPA/kyIUGWPtxmlTurjMAnyxSPElutuqlHly1NNKmqY9z6FUlmJxn+ZIggu Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120627 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 20:36:25 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060801070808060108040605 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sooo, here we are 5 months later. Any news on firmware updates? Any new sightings of Bob himself? Lol. On 10/22/2012 11:40 PM, MasterMuso wrote: > In addition to the new 1.4 software, Bob suggested that there is also > a planned firmware upgrade. Any news on that, Rick? > > On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Rick Walker > wrote: > > The Y2K12 Looping Festival has made me delay by one week, but I've > been given > 1.4, which has all the fixes for the buggy (but more feature > laden) 1.39, to beta test. > Bob has put a lot of effort into it recently and is working on it > now, as we speak. > > It's a much longer story, but the problems getting a steady > workable LP-2 Mini Looper out to the market > coupled with a job of his that has been eating up 55+ hours a week > have led to the delays. > > He's not shipping LP-2s. It was demonstrated by Bill Walker last > night at touch the looper and I'll be using > mine at the Y2k12 Loopfest this coming weekend with no problems > and enhance fidelity from the first iteration, > so I think things are finally moving again in Looperlative land, > thankful to say. > > Rick Walker > > > On 10/18/12 3:32 PM, Rob Campbell wrote: > > > > Latest firmware is 1.39 (18 months ago), but reports were > mixed on that version citing that previously stable features > had been broken. (not the first time the upgrades had that > issue). Some people say 1.34 was the last stable version. > That says something. (google: 'looperlative 1.34 stable' ) > > > -- http://Soundclick.com/7stringjazz http://Soundcloud.com/7stringjazz --------------060801070808060108040605 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Sooo, here we are 5 months later. Any news on firmware updates? Any new sightings of Bob himself? Lol.

On 10/22/2012 11:40 PM, MasterMuso wrote:
In addition to the new 1.4 software, Bob suggested that there is also a planned firmware upgrade. Any news on that, Rick?

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
The Y2K12 Looping Festival has made me delay by one week, but I've been given
1.4, which has all the fixes for the buggy (but more feature laden) 1.39, to beta test.
Bob has put a lot of effort into it recently and is working on it now, as we speak.

It's a much longer story, but the problems getting a steady workable LP-2 Mini Looper out to the market
coupled with a job of his that has been eating up 55+ hours a week have led to the delays.

He's not shipping LP-2s.  It was demonstrated by Bill Walker last night at touch the looper and I'll be using
mine at the Y2k12 Loopfest this coming weekend with no problems and enhance fidelity from the first iteration,
so I think things are finally moving again in Looperlative land, thankful to say.

Rick Walker


On 10/18/12 3:32 PM, Rob Campbell wrote:


Latest firmware is 1.39 (18 months ago), but reports were mixed on that version citing that previously stable features had been broken.  (not the first time the upgrades had that issue).  Some people say 1.34 was the last stable version.  That says something. (google:  'looperlative 1.34 stable' )




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--------------060801070808060108040605-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 31 21:08:46 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A541E1834CE; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:08:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <5158A5DA.5060700@soundscapes.us> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 17:08:42 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Top 20 Report for March, 2013. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/120628 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:08:46 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2013/top20-03mar.html WDIY 88.1 FM "Galactic Travels" Top 20 for March, 2013. Shows #831 to #834; 7-March-2013 to 28-March-2013 Reported in non-ranked, alphanumeric order. Compiled by Bill Fox The Special Focus for March was Steve Roach. http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2013/focus.html#mar ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL ======================================================================== Andy Pickford - EP#6 Phoenix - none Arcane - A Tale of Unease - Paul Lawler Music Chronotope Project - Chrysalis - Relaxed Machinery Chuck Van Zyl - Cenotaph - Synkronos Dan Pound - Spherical - Poundsounds Dirk Serries and Jon Atwood - The Sleep of Reason - Tonefloat Eyes Cast Down - The Separate Ones - Kalindi Music Intelligentsia - Music for Motherships - Earth Academy Motionfield - A Sort of Homecoming - Autoload Mythos - Surround Sound Evolution - Sireena Paul Harryn - Changing Seasons - none Paul Lawler - OPUS - Paul Lawler Music Paul Lawler and Paul Nagle - Jam Sessions Vol. 1 - Paul Lawler Music Premonition Factory - The Theory of Nothing - none Steve Roach - Journey of One d1 - Projekt Steve Roach - Journey of One d2 - Projekt Steve Roach - Sigh of Ages - Projekt Steve Roach - Soul Tones - Timeroom Editions Steve Roach and Byron Metcalf - Tales From the Ultra Tribe - Projekt Various Artists - World Wide Kind 2 - Earth Academy Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line.