From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 1 23:43:19 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2BD95183476; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 23:43:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <50930910.8070705@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 19:43:12 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen to Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118973 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 23:43:19 +0000 (UTC) I finally have power restored! GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long Special Focus on Palancar. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Vast" on the MP3.com label. The Special Focus page is at: http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#oct You will also hear music by an artist who will play at the Soundscapes Concert Series on December 2. http://soundscapes.us Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 2 05:22:29 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 197A7183476; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 05:22:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=osjvw81B8SW6fvVWuXff8Wsg7COA0SjamSYeKnx2Nj4=; b=UZzERPPGwPLurWF5FmfvwEFZayDWPi9zoKVg/Q+eOwQRhVDRk+HU2xwqj/SUbQ+mE2 pbi6BJ78USNiFavFv1aB2T6vjO9vbai0Vdq9oTDyhsfdld7TFHLo5YFhr1za3c6AntEp 2uOmHHUQSOHIyDIwSsNkY3ThRhEPuGtlhTYiJCqzsw7WsCYLOkbzQd/7XvKXKwZnsNpu wSjEFiFQvSA5hOnQ9VGpUzBk2h4PNfWbew9+F6q1dpzPGGQ2GmW05F06cYjqVi+60pq0 1pOuBlmd+F1Ar+ryFGOaw90wp0jyDTXokGcz6Xi1n0Gnv/59pFvKtWNXiP1IiL8QhKSj J7pQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [74.95.193.205] In-Reply-To: References: From: Amy Lee Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 22:21:47 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New live looping piece To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0418264c528b4004cd7c5298 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmOFlliOvxyKM2v3ltETyqRDxJCf2wOFK79j7Vn0xqfHBznar1MQ/DCG9U/aQT48X6UWsln Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118974 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 05:22:28 +0000 (UTC) --f46d0418264c528b4004cd7c5298 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That was very very cool. Totally chill. On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 3:22 AM, kay'lon rushing wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwEUb4C33rU > > New piece that I just recorded 2 days ago. It's improvised as usual. Hope > you guys enjoy :) > > -- > http://www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238 > > http://www.youtube.com/user/gumdrops27 > > https://twitter.com/K3Z_Art > > www.soundcloud.com/k3z > > --f46d0418264c528b4004cd7c5298 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That was very very cool. Totally chill.


<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 3:22 AM, kay'lon rush= ing <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrote:
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--f46d0418264c528b4004cd7c5298-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 2 05:36:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 62DA3183477; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 05:36:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0343257462==" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20121102053549.21251.21863.levelstar.mail@everest> Sender: Tyler Reply-to: Tyler From: Tyler Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 01:36:05 -0400 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Subject: Follow me on Twitter! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118975 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 05:36:23 +0000 (UTC) Unable to read this email, please upgrage your mail client --===============0343257462== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello,=20looping=20artists!=20For=20those=20of=20you=20with=20Twitter=20acc= ounts=20who=20want=20to=20hear=20the=20musings=20and=20witty=20 sayings=20of=20a=20looper=20who's=20only=20been=20doing=20it=20for=20two=20= and=20a=20half=20years,=20follow=20me=20on=20Twitter! http://www.twitter.com/tzahnke Tyler=20Z --===============0343257462==-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 2 06:42:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47DB5183476; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 06:42:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=17/MchsrEmlagLjT9lOuuXJnc+Ij7jIT6S+jSzVz0XE=; b=yrLDM0o1jvai14G1JDygY9OnLyEfVkIMhoa0wBwb407v0fhKvOhwCOGDUCxPgoXYUm BH1d0EXBrWzpNqvv1Jh7YrUTlMM8zZhI1aqv++hOGHNCMY+GgMqzgtRw4qn7qZZiJJDm nND1pFapGPARFb31Wc6WIPg/Nu6pl4OYBNNJeJDkKZP+L4dvm1nFLdYtdN9UOCMxNJJe NkI0YtSrVQ2LhBQdpY7Y6OSqS//Fasvck+jwIrfosNWAV/GSTBHNPJ7Vp7lRFYQsnXvF iyGUoL+oAmAu8xerkm5rYgQ3yuWHI5NV+n75RWfJkFBDGAewtjrfQlN1fdABCOzluTki tPOQ== From: Philip Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: LP1 firmware v.1.40 Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 15:42:39 +0900 Message-Id: To: loopers delight delight Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Resent-Message-ID: <873NOB.A.fwF.ot2kQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118976 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 06:42:48 +0000 (UTC) Does anyone have any further information about how the beta testing is = going and when the new firmware will be available? My purple monster = eagerly awaits. P= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 2 06:55:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C67E183466; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 06:55:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=cO19XcaZ6D6L2TAGsCp6HEgqknvSrrL9ZqQWjwok8eo=; b=BkzbRE43X6aegVqVVgpzOnkkSPHKJNu3eHfcQBkExOi5T9RKI5gLhVN3qwRc9diqJh 7EMLUdedRmd/I5oO2+AqnaEBUi0sdd6x2AuzNg4qOTFJXBOUoKO0icK9vBSFMLODL8Pj 8AqG2DOtH1dUwPxHEIV6O4y70xByElH8US88j+4C0bLLsT3+fA5tr5tofL6njqnZtx6T Edy+n+QBZZJ9iTUlQXTJ525/WcSBl2zrP9pCg6ECyJ/I8hG+DqrMRZppcewcFJSbp1rm 5HdIfRAH6DjpTFXuTNajEcLpTrEYEsZMYyfue+N9cPsW+ulQAlBTANTlMtVgyCXcYAbA OPMg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 23:55:35 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New live looping piece From: "kay'lon rushing" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0438931d5d5fae04cd7d9f5f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118977 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 06:55:36 +0000 (UTC) --f46d0438931d5d5fae04cd7d9f5f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thank you guys :) On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Amy Lee wrote: > That was very very cool. Totally chill. > > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 3:22 AM, kay'lon rushing wrote: > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwEUb4C33rU >> >> New piece that I just recorded 2 days ago. It's improvised as usual. >> Hope you guys enjoy :) >> >> -- >> http://www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238 >> >> http://www.youtube.com/user/gumdrops27 >> >> https://twitter.com/K3Z_Art >> >> www.soundcloud.com/k3z >> >> > -- http://www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238 http://www.youtube.com/user/gumdrops27 https://twitter.com/K3Z_Art www.soundcloud.com/k3z --f46d0438931d5d5fae04cd7d9f5f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you guys :)

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at = 10:21 PM, Amy Lee <amy@jumpingrobot.com> wrote:
That was very very cool. Totally chill.


On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 3:22 AM, kay= 9;lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DcwEUb4C33rU=

New piece that I just recorded=A0 2 days ago. It's improvised as us= ual. Hope you guys enjoy :)
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http://www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238

http://w= ww.youtube.com/user/gumdrops27

https://twitt= er.com/K3Z_Art

www.soundcloud.com/k3z





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http:/= /www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238

http://www.youtube.com/use= r/gumdrops27

https://twitt= er.com/K3Z_Art

www.soundcloud.com/k3z

--f46d0438931d5d5fae04cd7d9f5f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 2 07:02:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A804183477; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 07:02:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=y5hh/RpqyNNLNbmijMXjeVpdYi8LPcFDoOfeWirk0gg=; b=kBs7NjhTyKeyoi0ZCQmIsOOpusFATTvNqRyFaqxfxxmd/6UHWbN2ZbSsoFO3koCZv4 2G/Y0LKUrrYbogk87vymitQdjfL1CrRLuu5xlcqh3EdxnZYKOlmc/7WZxp0ZFR3bteri oFfLbM6olA5lySuKm+IaaTF6FhSxNEYJUS1U8UDZ/MdwlAiZ925mj93JaFF37Z6Uf+Ks Rc2s9MfqZrE257N60zPgVOQiT+dTeybVQFVVrMMnQ96YGv/RYqz9Mubj3KMlbSfdAkhx jKbWruGvzlLFlEWxrTqV1ENXOPZ1EfRcfN2Wu/kMClaP2nf/DKTjD3aay3xqCrpQ7ANJ n/pA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 15:02:39 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New live looping piece From: eib halimski To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04478bfda531e304cd7db81b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118978 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 07:02:40 +0000 (UTC) --f46d04478bfda531e304cd7db81b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 sounds good kay'lon! On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:55 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: > Thank you guys :) > > > On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Amy Lee wrote: > >> That was very very cool. Totally chill. >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 3:22 AM, kay'lon rushing wrote: >> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwEUb4C33rU >>> >>> New piece that I just recorded 2 days ago. It's improvised as usual. >>> Hope you guys enjoy :) >>> >>> -- >>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238 >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/user/gumdrops27 >>> >>> https://twitter.com/K3Z_Art >>> >>> www.soundcloud.com/k3z >>> >>> >> > > > -- > http://www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238 > > http://www.youtube.com/user/gumdrops27 > > https://twitter.com/K3Z_Art > > www.soundcloud.com/k3z > > --f46d04478bfda531e304cd7db81b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable sounds good kay'lon!

On Fri, Nov 2, 2= 012 at 2:55 PM, kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrote:=
Thank you guys :)


On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Amy Lee <amy@jumpingr= obot.com> wrote:
That was very very cool. Totally chill.


On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 3:22 AM, kay= 9;lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DcwEUb4C33rU=

New piece that I just recorded=A0 2 days ago. It's improvised as us= ual. Hope you guys enjoy :)
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http://w= ww.youtube.com/user/gumdrops27

https://twitt= er.com/K3Z_Art

www.soundcloud.com/k3z





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http:/= /www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238

http://www.youtube.com/use= r/gumdrops27

https://twitt= er.com/K3Z_Art

www.soundcloud.com/k3z


--f46d04478bfda531e304cd7db81b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 2 18:20:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 33F0A183466; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 18:20:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <50940EEF.6040300@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 14:20:31 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #813 for November 1, 2012. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4J8vaD.A.rqD.27AlQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118979 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 18:20:38 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/121101.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #813 November 1, 2012. WDIY Playlist: http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels?playlist_date=11-01-2012 RECAP: On this show, I began a month-long focus on Palancar. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Vast" on the old MP3.com label. http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#nov I also played music by an artist who will appear at the Soundscapes ConcertSeries.http://soundscapes.us/gt/events.html PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Genetique Prototype 2.0 Green (none) Dan Pound Colliding Memories Return To Other Worlds (Poundsounds) Dan Pound Thunder Voices Return To Other Worlds (Poundsounds) Dan Pound Beneath This World Return To Other Worlds (Poundsounds) Parallel Worlds and Heterodyne Morphogenic (DiN) Dave Bessell Gordon Simmons Deep Space Jump Solitary Journey (none) Keith Berry turn right a the ear that was sold to a thousand feet fish ( Infraction) from here part 2 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Palancar A Passage to Vast (MP3.COM) Dreamland Palancar Vast Vast (MP3.COM) Palancar Sky River Vast (MP3.COM) Palancar White Horse (Crop Vast (MP3.COM) Song Mix) Palancar Escalante (Beyond Vast (MP3.COM) Love Mix) Palancar It Rains Vast (MP3.COM) Palancar Loligo Vulgaris Vast (MP3.COM) Palancar Virginia's Theme Vast (MP3.COM) Palancar Wavelength Vast (MP3.COM) Radio Massacre Encore * Lost In Transit 7 (Northern International Echo) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Palancar.The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Ambient Train Wreck Series Volume One" on Blue Water Records. WDIY Announcement: http://wdiy.org/post/next-galactic-travels-2012-11-08 Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 2 18:48:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88980183475; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 18:48:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tbqIGxZvszQGrB2PqMm5bbAKa8fox/H0p5c4c+Y0oj0=; b=l8iO3XDD5nY16DxBHXP36BEkvtyc4imD9XcDdY5KC78eJM+SWlxwMf14UV2m6OXFvf MX2kiL83qm+r4lxPGeQUtVHTc/EgQuQYmCQeiVYl0gnFNPaI1k2fsFJzhgqSs9AbuZDa 1GZGBLcH4xnUdfNaPDysMiNof6XYa0kMPglfCUWLv84beoTrY0SrVJG7dLgTI4i0U5Fj SZfnxMF/cxvETtigntOR7vdlN9eaZwUyy5BCAej08jutWjsQ4GNC2nXtOAa3O+0y8wnT PbQFIJiiusNQ2ZyzXCmxfExsKF0n+wu9X6sGyVNRdsEvDR4BxfvrzHRv1xmQjgHf5Fsd bOzw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 11:48:51 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: A (perhaps) not elementary Mobius question From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118980 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 18:48:52 +0000 (UTC) So, after playing around with Mobius and enjoying the shuffle effects immensely I was wondering if it was possible to implement things like pitch shifting individual granules (or reversing parts, speed shifting parts, etc.)? If anyone really dislikes reading or responding to these types of questions just send a message with RTFM and I'll hide away and stop. I just find it generally more efficient to ask than to read and re-read manuals when I'm not even entirely sure what to look for. Thanks as always, Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 2 20:31:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 836D6183476; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 20:31:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <3x09@carlsonarts.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 907289.6719.bm@smtp105.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: FQN4x3UVM1n2nAI2pKbu0hOlVwEyzgMeJo2xMpATf_2WnuT ZlY5.yzaaKjbSHKXor3Sg6xbFTcLkPvt8VLgixttgbuN4Zqr2JTIOAi2Ey3Y RlAY2mr9.jD5bN.K0pHwalTyrWsSZ2vjto3zm.ZPb.d.dpYXUIqnLfmGI3tA UHbXkmNzZ_ltUo4nIDN15uV2ZY2_spJMLtamaNhH.pRdtsfgLVbSEzUeeMk0 2s8iOOn6Npw0RdQErOzKsZsiJ5WyrC3aAiX.Hr2xD7oYfwN1EckmTaG3VF8A WXxtAXx02UyDNErXR3zXKZpdgpE93tWSyBT2rBeqh8IUHzwbcdncfAwFU4hM 0CprHyfSTmNsE0fu3_vHriKMKKaj.wU8rdQYfZeHkM4pq1GLd7u3H9l3BpgO 2i2h.BsOfohDiPk0ATGjuTEMsEjF3nxfBfnYnbAmWPe_C6YnOJRkfd6GG4KW w55eMDDxuPrkBGXxeChv3o083iR5gSORDWADWenq.oki_yqeSJ.EQbShPMLY p9Yvhf7U9PP_pD0ZNTXo0uQjWae3qUhYdsccNeBPRLpstJbWY3e00ZC_hG4Q 4MmOs6zhQT1RComBxUClncEJvTcLyxa_L0.JZnuLO X-Yahoo-SMTP: D9yazeWswBDL7tdRauhy7AWumUUpVr1iIdv0O0tl6PLXPr1F References: <3083677841D53B448CB0AD1AE93B19A7521D79EF@BY2PRD0410MB354.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <581CD176-4B3D-43E7-B0B7-60244D4C8795@carlsonarts.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: TripleOhNine <3x09@carlsonarts.com> Subject: Re: Mobius in Mainstage Mishaps and Misses Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 13:31:44 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118981 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 20:31:47 +0000 (UTC) So, I have solved the problems by using controller buttons exclusively = and not the Macbook keyboard. I also realized that I had the midi = settings set up so that both Mobius responded to the controller, and = Mainstage also sent the same midi messages to the controller a second = time. So every time i pressed "M" for example, it was like pressing it = twice, so basically cancelled itself out because of how I have multiply = configured. Anyways, everything is working great now and I love my new setup in = Mainstage - again.=20 Michael=20 3x09 On Oct 28, 2012, at 6:53 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Michael, >=20 > Mainstage blocks the computer keyboard keys from being detected by the > Mobius plugin. This is because Mainstage has its won key commands and > it also has a virtual keyboard that is played by the computer keys > when activated. I am a big fan of using key commands with Mobius but > when I moved from Mobius standalone to using it as a plugin in > Mainstage I had to adapt by moving some of my commands to a little > MIDI button pad instead of tapping the computer keys. >=20 > I also use Ableton Live as host for Mobius and in this environment the > Mobius key commands work, given the Mobius plugin GUI widow is at > front. This is tricky, you have to remember that if you use the mouse > to adjust a mixier fader in Live Mobius is no more at front (Live is > now) and key commands do not work. So you need to click inside the > Mobius GUI window after having moused around in Live. >=20 > When using Bidule as the host for Mobius key commands always work... > for the simple reason that you never need to click or mouse anything > in Bidule, it is just like a routing hub. But if you click inside the > Bidule window Mobius key commands take a vacation until you click in > the Mobius window again. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >=20 >=20 > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 1:55 AM, TripleOhNine <3x09@carlsonarts.com> = wrote: >> The looping fest in Santa Cruz was awesome, and I was honored to be = invited to do vocal looping. >>=20 >> I performed for the first time with Mobius hosted in Mainstage at the = Y2K12 in Santa Cruz, with mixed results. I appreciated everyone's = positive comments on my set, and felt alright about it, but I am = somewhat of a perfectionist, so I was hoping to get some help here on a = couple problems that I had. >>=20 >> Three main problems I experienced: >>=20 >> I use a nanoKontroller to mix, mute, and pan directly to Mobius, but = I also like to use the keyboard keys sometimes for things like Record = ("r"), Multiply ("m"), Mute ("u"), etc. But, when I try to use the keys = on my MB Pro, they either didn't respond, or did something completely = different from what they do when I use Mobius as a standalone with the = nanoKontroller. It seems to be something to do with using Mobius as a = plug-in. >>=20 >> Also, if, for example, I want to switch to loop two on track one by = pressing the down arrow on the MB keyboard, nothing happens. So, I was = forced to stick to the same loop in every track while using Mobius with = Mainstage. This meant that in any of my pieces where I used multiple = loops on the same track (usually never more than 4 loops), I had to use = Mobius as a standalone, as I have always done in the past, without = effects. >>=20 >> Also, for some reason some of the other plugins didn't seem to work, = such as the Apple pedalboard plugin which I had intended to use vocally = for fuzz and delay effects, but this may have just been my own user = error. >>=20 >> Do you have any insight for me on how to use Mobius as a plugin with = Mainstage, and still have the MB Pro's keyboard functionality = redundantly with the nanoKontroller's buttons, so I can use one or the = other as desired on the fly? >>=20 >> Michael >> 3x09 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 2 20:47:04 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0813B183475; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 20:47:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:157.56.234.85;KIP:(null);UIP:(null);IPV:NLI;H:SN2PRD0410HT004.namprd04.prod.outlook.com;RD:none;EFVD:NLI X-BigFish: PS-1(zz9371Izz1de0h1202h1d1ah1d2ahzz17326ah8275bh8275dhz2fh2a8h668h839h944hd25hf0ah1220h1288h12a5h12a9h12bdh137ah13b6h1441h1504h1537h153bh1155h) Received-SPF: pass (mail18-db3: domain of sailpoint.com designates 157.56.234.85 as permitted sender) client-ip=157.56.234.85; envelope-from=jeff.larson@sailpoint.com; helo=SN2PRD0410HT004.namprd04.prod.outlook.com ;.outlook.com ; From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: RE: A (perhaps) not elementary Mobius question Thread-Topic: A (perhaps) not elementary Mobius question Thread-Index: AQHNuSq7xJfVeqnjIU2M87C/PiGHZJfXAn+R Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 20:46:57 +0000 Message-ID: <3083677841D53B448CB0AD1AE93B19A75275D7C5@SN2PRD0410MB360.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [70.113.107.81] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: sailpoint.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118982 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 20:47:03 +0000 (UTC) No, it isn't possible to apply transformations to shuffle granules. It's o= n the todo list, but I can't say when I'll get to it. =0A= =0A= You can do something sort of like this with a script that uses the Move fun= ction to jump around mixed with SpeedStep, Reverse, etc. then use Bounce to= record this into another track. The key is that you have to apply the eff= ects in real time, we can't yet do them instantly.=0A= =0A= Jeff=0A= =0A= ________________________________________=0A= From: Kevin Cheli-Colando [billowhead@gmail.com]=0A= Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 1:48 PM=0A= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A= Subject: A (perhaps) not elementary Mobius question=0A= =0A= So, after playing around with Mobius and enjoying the shuffle effects=0A= immensely I was wondering if it was possible to implement things like=0A= pitch shifting individual granules (or reversing parts, speed shifting=0A= parts, etc.)?=0A= =0A= If anyone really dislikes reading or responding to these types of=0A= questions just send a message with RTFM and I'll hide away and stop.=0A= I just find it generally more efficient to ask than to read and=0A= re-read manuals when I'm not even entirely sure what to look for.=0A= =0A= Thanks as always,=0A= =0A= Kevin=0A= =0A= --=0A= Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a=0A= form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.= =0A= =0A= - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)=0A= =0A= Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org=0A= Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos=0A= =0A= =0A= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 3 08:44:57 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 52482183479; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 08:44:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <5094D985.5010209@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2012 04:44:53 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen to Thought Radio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118983 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 08:44:57 +0000 (UTC) THOUGHT RADIO: http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio ======================================================================= My next stint on Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show, will be Saturday, November 3 at 6 am EDT/GMT-4. In Phase One, I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs. I will play music by an artist who will play at the Soundscapes Concert Series on Sunday, December 2. I host the show about every other week. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 3 15:36:01 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC575183466; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 15:36:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MzCTucLOMUZDCc9MaYO70GkHW/MfCyjoNA5VTQTkFlg=; b=E93j4t2cWKlpICjsuOTwtUfv8MCtsgUsKfnaIckSgICQv31eafzYmF/It5tbF02Si3 RHeE0QY9IlAtORwVxipOwmH8KU/6GxEMIwaitYVFtJMoGmhXjo16ttnmjNW2yBy0+uSH NzMAvtpHyo4nqYwXmjomCNIEp1SsXgJfBjkIN1tjKYW9BP4nFCbJyEtIA2hoMORoBTQS 71maMjHea5lnxQTdeudBVvt+vIsJbNN7OBSCHADzROFc/v1zsJX2IxDuyzeNLFnGueZC YWFuEKO0E6zZb4aNJAUPqQWVnM36X4naASvlFl6BOPY8TZd5XqD9mmuPEQ2QmA1Q8Tss 6ytg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 16:35:59 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: What Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/samplers/computers From: jannis kempkens To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f502df45681cb04cd9902dd Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118984 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 15:36:00 +0000 (UTC) --e89a8f502df45681cb04cd9902dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey everyone! I=B4ve been playing and looping in my band for sometime now, but only worke= d with a Boss rc 50 so far. I have been very happy with it as a live looper so far, but now got to a point, where our gigs are getting bigger and i want to work on the sound. So far I always put everything (beats, vocals, guitar, percussions, synths) into a mixer and from there into my rc50, which works fine, but leads often to clipping or other distortion. Trying to not run the beats through my looper, but play it straight from my electribe sx (that=B4s where they come from originally) I found it very difficult/not working to midi sync these two. What I=B4m now looking for is a looper that syncs with other loopers and computers or an other way to have more outputs than the stereo-di you get from the rc 50. If anyone has an idea, i would more than appreciate it! Thank you already! Jannis --e89a8f502df45681cb04cd9902dd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey everyone!

I=B4ve been playing and looping in my band for s= ometime now, but only worked with a Boss rc 50 so far. I have been very hap= py with it as a live looper so far, but now got to a point, where our gigs = are getting bigger and i want to work on the sound.
So far I always put everything (beats, vocals, guitar, percussions, sy= nths) into a mixer and from there into my rc50, which works fine, but leads= often to clipping or other distortion.
Trying to not run the bea= ts through my looper, but play it straight from my electribe sx (that=B4s w= here they come from originally) I found it very difficult/not working to mi= di sync these two.
What I=B4m now looking for is a looper that syncs with other loopers a= nd computers or an other way to have more outputs than the stereo-di you ge= t from the rc 50.

If anyone has an idea, i would m= ore than appreciate it!
Thank you already!
Jannis
--e89a8f502df45681cb04cd9902dd-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 3 16:36:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 06FE4183461; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 16:36:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "'Loop List'" Subject: LD archive search Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 17:36:12 +0100 Message-ID: <000f01cdb9e1$565084b0$02f18e10$@de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01CDB9E9.B814ECB0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac254VX4k2U1LS17TL+hZCeeG6nnmg== Content-Language: de Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118985 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 16:36:24 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01CDB9E9.B814ECB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable we had this discussion before I think - is the mailinglist archive = search function broken? whatever I enter, I always get 0 results =20 -Michael =20 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01CDB9E9.B814ECB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

we had this discussion before I think = - is the mailinglist archive search function = broken? whatever I enter, I always get 0 results

 

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------=_NextPart_000_0010_01CDB9E9.B814ECB0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 3 17:16:39 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 81B5E183465; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 17:16:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=hbYn0qk9HZd/QEa7Q5/4DJXyPEkQu5h2qo72eXaL1N8=; b=wGbF3okXGmI1FZUFcJKNueK7UKkTEKWbUHsskel6Yi2Gn+T5eIPpaOKzrq5O5TaVZV Ikp9U9QaPnsaKoZ3tkI5fZa6qgpKeneibq4reyvrGL7Ql97hnjet7mKH9esmrefbGrk0 kEEpxfvju14/U3HIK0vZxP/9kf9vK0Bw/H31J7v5xGRRxGef7M+0Q2DhpQlwpnoadQZG kfGZ574wmuJKyriiwQwryuP+aEWkypcLwNFeF7JaHX89B6TVHromPSUoLAKhOivCtvo6 1APauL55wbrsUhcSsJtlsAFWiSh0n3SPAAidp3MYFkQQuTd+VXTwSczuxnC/S6ElYZZS p99g== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000f01cdb9e1$565084b0$02f18e10$@de> References: <000f01cdb9e1$565084b0$02f18e10$@de> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 13:16:37 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LD archive search From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d040173053eabb004cd9a6a86 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118986 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 17:16:39 +0000 (UTC) --f46d040173053eabb004cd9a6a86 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It works if you use the front page search box. No frills though. J On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Michael Peters wrote: > we had this discussion before I think - is the mailinglist archive search > function broken? whatever I enter, I always get 0 results**** > > ** ** > > -Michael**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > --f46d040173053eabb004cd9a6a86 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It works if you use the front page search box. No frills though.

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On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Michael P= eters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:

we had this discussion= before I think - is the mailinglist archive search function b= roken? whatever I enter, I always get 0 results

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--f46d040173053eabb004cd9a6a86-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 3 18:09:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63F17183475; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 18:09:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=YeGRp1bhZ8kFngez42+Zg1B5WTAvmdkTlFCL0W7zzVg=; b=0FcHc8TfhH+q0Vauz/CzUEepGLtPp6MFzzIUapVDc98RRE9bIrj71D1nNjh2B4wOCH bA/srFnJndhToa2ZQsCw1dqcD4R0NtuKJNVkeEFqU9wIwbdWnIw65sA0he7oi+qqttC1 BcCeRZIE18hb5vkGc6/3GKhAf5diT/rN+msCRy3Z+cbWh4fp2Vi4rr9NOJfd9U0sDxfH Jwi+At4HGc2RCLnPpAHNgpAP9/FqKYKvBocEaARj5OjJnRGWaKGj7fAIUx3zXs2vQ1+U Fc62RMnuymmaZblv6m9HiyV4ngqr3/GXaBtAP7kzlXHYZj/wP+3F95n7g90BcQebRUck GkoQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 02:09:22 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/samplers/computers From: eib halimski To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f6436f8dfc80a04cd9b263e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118987 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 18:09:23 +0000 (UTC) --e89a8f6436f8dfc80a04cd9b263e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've heard of 'midi clocking' that can sync multiple loopers but what do i know, haven't tried any of them. sorry i'm not of any help. having 2 units of echoplex (or more i think) is a much easier option but costs a bit more. On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 11:35 PM, jannis kempkens < jannis.kempkens@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hey everyone! > > I=B4ve been playing and looping in my band for sometime now, but only wor= ked > with a Boss rc 50 so far. I have been very happy with it as a live looper > so far, but now got to a point, where our gigs are getting bigger and i > want to work on the sound. > So far I always put everything (beats, vocals, guitar, percussions, > synths) into a mixer and from there into my rc50, which works fine, but > leads often to clipping or other distortion. > Trying to not run the beats through my looper, but play it straight from > my electribe sx (that=B4s where they come from originally) I found it ver= y > difficult/not working to midi sync these two. > What I=B4m now looking for is a looper that syncs with other loopers and > computers or an other way to have more outputs than the stereo-di you get > from the rc 50. > > If anyone has an idea, i would more than appreciate it! > Thank you already! > Jannis > --e89a8f6436f8dfc80a04cd9b263e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've heard of 'midi clocking' that can sync multiple loopers bu= t what do i know, haven't tried any of them. sorry i'm not of any h= elp.
having 2 units of echoplex (or more i think) is a much easier opti= on but costs a bit more.

On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 11:35 PM, jannis kemp= kens <jannis.kempkens@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hey everyone!

I=B4ve been playing and looping in my band for s= ometime now, but only worked with a Boss rc 50 so far. I have been very hap= py with it as a live looper so far, but now got to a point, where our gigs = are getting bigger and i want to work on the sound.
So far I always put everything (beats, vocals, guitar, percussions, sy= nths) into a mixer and from there into my rc50, which works fine, but leads= often to clipping or other distortion.
Trying to not run the bea= ts through my looper, but play it straight from my electribe sx (that=B4s w= here they come from originally) I found it very difficult/not working to mi= di sync these two.
What I=B4m now looking for is a looper that syncs with other loopers a= nd computers or an other way to have more outputs than the stereo-di you ge= t from the rc 50.

If anyone has an idea, i would m= ore than appreciate it!
Thank you already!
Jannis

--e89a8f6436f8dfc80a04cd9b263e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 3 18:20:31 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 52BAC183476; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 18:20:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:content-type:message-id:mime-version:subject:date :references:to:in-reply-to:x-mailer; bh=6+dm6oMM5jBsg7gkmFWGsNgDPIju4I17COtuQuKQuHE=; b=tMvYweha5Za02mfeloUzEgnHGBH1rTAaQiegtipKlKGSbrbfaMSXGlcruJchrlkf+e nVYyfEG+M2n+1YuSenxav/jABtNeO9vInW5GE4JQtuoaySXvKknB8r2xaIr+P9AhWu7R IOMsR17KTk27iVuf3O4MRHOjxLMUx9O4UiQiIUZ8KkY9tL1kav1cFn6WD1HM32buLX79 O21zGqpEEQi2fiMOrMVRL6eHmkxzmjYTW1Kbf/TRH+/WHHcEAvAZgNjpmzin/Y4/Ubnx M0cZ8sPuQfLO4WAKdLhHH1oenZRutRKRzSnRhNLLO4/vL1H3lSNFF8blDZjQrHCxriki A5Rw== Sender: Philippe Ollivier From: Philippe ollivier Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_DAD2E503-32CA-4BF0-8F89-7BF3BA248112" Message-Id: <8F91606E-2AEF-46CC-91FD-3354FFF93238@logellou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: What Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/samplers/computers Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 19:20:27 +0100 References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118988 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 18:20:31 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_DAD2E503-32CA-4BF0-8F89-7BF3BA248112 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Hi Jannis, If you are on Mac, you can look at Logelloop=85 Logelloop permits to = record loops in 10 tracks and 3 banks and have the possibility to record = in mono or stereo, spatialise or route each track separately. Logelloop = can also calculate the tempo of a loop and send the tempo as midi or be = synced to a midi clock. It is downloadable there : www.logelloop.com Philippe Le 3 nov. 2012 =E0 16:35, jannis kempkens = a =E9crit : > Hey everyone! >=20 > I=B4ve been playing and looping in my band for sometime now, but only = worked with a Boss rc 50 so far. I have been very happy with it as a = live looper so far, but now got to a point, where our gigs are getting = bigger and i want to work on the sound. > So far I always put everything (beats, vocals, guitar, percussions, = synths) into a mixer and from there into my rc50, which works fine, but = leads often to clipping or other distortion. > Trying to not run the beats through my looper, but play it straight = from my electribe sx (that=B4s where they come from originally) I found = it very difficult/not working to midi sync these two. > What I=B4m now looking for is a looper that syncs with other loopers = and computers or an other way to have more outputs than the stereo-di = you get from the rc 50. >=20 > If anyone has an idea, i would more than appreciate it! > Thank you already! > Jannis --Apple-Mail=_DAD2E503-32CA-4BF0-8F89-7BF3BA248112 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Hi = Jannis,
If you are on Mac, you can look at Logelloop=85 Logelloop = permits to record loops in 10 tracks and 3 banks and have the = possibility to record in mono or stereo, spatialise or route each track = separately. Logelloop can also calculate the tempo of a loop and send = the tempo as midi or be synced to a midi clock.
It is downloadable there : www.logelloop.com
Philippe
jannis.kempkens@googlemail.= com> a =E9crit :

Hey = everyone!

I=B4ve been playing and looping in my band for = sometime now, but only worked with a Boss rc 50 so far. I have been very = happy with it as a live looper so far, but now got to a point, where our = gigs are getting bigger and i want to work on the sound.
So far I always put everything (beats, vocals, guitar, percussions, = synths) into a mixer and from there into my rc50, which works fine, but = leads often to clipping or other distortion.
Trying to not run = the beats through my looper, but play it straight from my electribe sx = (that=B4s where they come from originally) I found it very difficult/not = working to midi sync these two.
What I=B4m now looking for is a looper that syncs with other = loopers and computers or an other way to have more outputs than the = stereo-di you get from the rc 50.

If anyone has = an idea, i would more than appreciate it!
Thank you already!
Jannis

= --Apple-Mail=_DAD2E503-32CA-4BF0-8F89-7BF3BA248112-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 3 18:30:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB9B3183466; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 18:30:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=0g5HHyr2D3zTiLTyNAM1gxZFowGeo8BgRTuXvqkLqMA=; b=N/c/cEDm9CLmoEV3iUJzQ0aMR3nLWL0RtCPFJ6A/ysyj5cEgXZ5VezfptnUiXZ8/0H fKTllKzRvW2gS0pbgV7zobHvYHJ8ACdL8ez5+qV9fM6zoxG4aSpFrw4PFyU7tAPZRiPf FV4e/190LLcVY0Sf/P3ZG7kZLu7xmJt57nIK+B2pWoK90ok/kO8W8HyVni6mb9YGjSf7 H4zAaAwUhlAsAauHaAxIFTDF4ltjNOYNuPOIcpbyF3xQFXFia8eJoyVJuZ4KkGmLgDXw SERTP5OTuVG8W6KYYFRHksQb2tmV3xw9VV+i0dUPQHQjjmupppWbD05mCgBxvbaKEtxc bmnw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <000f01cdb9e1$565084b0$02f18e10$@de> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 14:30:40 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LD archive search From: Sylvain Poitras To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6041a004f8b304cd9b736b Resent-Message-ID: <3O-osC.A.qQ.RLWlQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118989 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 18:30:41 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b6041a004f8b304cd9b736b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I find it best to use google and restrict the search to the loopers-delight site, by using the following site parameter: site:http://www.loopers-delight.com/ Sylvain On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > It works if you use the front page search box. No frills though. > > J > > > On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Michael Peters wrote: > >> we had this discussion before I think - is the mailinglist archive >> search function broken? whatever I enter, I always get 0 results**** >> >> ** ** >> >> -Michael**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> > > --047d7b6041a004f8b304cd9b736b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I find it best to use google and restrict the search to the loopers-delight= site, by using the following site parameter:


Sylvain


<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Jeff Duke <jef= floops@gmail.com> wrote:
It works if you use the front page search bo= x. No frills though.

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On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at= 12:36 PM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:

we had this discussion= before I think - is the mailinglist archive search function b= roken? whatever I enter, I always get 0 results

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--047d7b6041a004f8b304cd9b736b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 3 18:42:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E6C2183466; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 18:42:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "roger" To: Subject: Stopping by to say Hi. Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 18:42:08 -0000 Organization: medcross Message-ID: <005201cdb9f2$ee026150$ca0723f0$@co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0053_01CDB9F2.EE028860" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Content-Language: en-gb Thread-Index: Ac258u2eFciETYZMT1KoHxBJEUOfDg== X-Auth-Info: roger@cogreslab.co.uk (login) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118990 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 18:42:17 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01CDB9F2.EE028860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just joined Looper's Delight, so howdy to y'all! I hope to post a few questions soon because I am an admitted beginner in this art, and play jazz/blues/folk on the lowly saxophone in my retirement. I have now got a couple of RC 50s and more or less have got the hang of using them, and have built a small video/audio studio in my cellar, equipped with drums, Eigenharp Pico, Garageband and Digitech300 voice processor. I am aiming to create an Album under the stage name Bampi Bill, called Songs from my Cellar during the next twelve months or less. (There's nothing like being ambitious!). I am overwhelmed about the possibilities for live looping and look forward to joining the looping community, which seems quite a friendly and helpful bunch of people. Best wishes, Roger "Bampi Bill" Coghill. ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01CDB9F2.EE028860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Just = joined Looper’s Delight, so howdy to y’all! I hope to post a = few questions soon because I am an admitted beginner in this art, and = play jazz/blues/folk on the lowly saxophone in my retirement. I have now = got a couple of RC 50s and more or less have got the hang of using them, = and have built a small video/audio studio in my cellar, equipped with = drums, Eigenharp Pico, Garageband and Digitech300 voice processor. I am = aiming to create an Album under the stage name Bampi Bill, called Songs = from my Cellar during the next twelve months or less. (There’s = nothing like being ambitious!). I am overwhelmed about the possibilities = for live looping and look forward to joining the looping community, = which seems quite a friendly and helpful bunch of people. Best wishes, = Roger “Bampi Bill” = Coghill.

------=_NextPart_000_0053_01CDB9F2.EE028860-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 3 18:48:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3054C183461; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 18:48:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: LD archive search Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 19:47:59 +0100 Message-ID: <006401cdb9f3$bf796d50$3e6c47f0$@de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0065_01CDB9FC.213DD550" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac255vsZTrxcBRqpTj2OAbkbvOXSpgADJu9Q Content-Language: de Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118991 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 18:48:12 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0065_01CDB9FC.213DD550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > It works if you use the front page search box. No frills though. that's not the archive search ... http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/wilma/LDarchive ... but it does search and find stuff. Thanks Jeff! -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_0065_01CDB9FC.213DD550 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> = It works if = you use the front page search box. No frills though.

 

 

that's = not the archive search ...

 

http://www.loopers-delight.= com/cgi-bin/wilma/LDarchive

 

... = but it does search and find stuff. Thanks Jeff!

 

-Michael<= /p>

 

------=_NextPart_000_0065_01CDB9FC.213DD550-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 3 19:29:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 049CE183473; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 19:29:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=dl77iJmaFyL4vEG8t9DAAVD9LiQbw9k/epOA612SMic=; b=k9+N6CM1RhsNfYSNMBPz2D70wXWSd4lrVHwDmAhOk8Um4kUG2L+dLUKbXXaPQtCm30 uzL9fZoXOCL/rPEH6OzMUESr3POMTYDyG98+kxXXne6J3cpTOYelJfhXWF/J7uUqQffm LesZZIv+OaeEwYG49IN4ANx7bmYqg8t7MiUGBR82D/Px9EZ6m5RQLD4WBUyZa7W/xcqW pRB/ZP/Yjf7UnnzxOEm5ZBsJFAq2soKY5Gt3PBRlsybWdK7rcJmAwWYP5fuo30pxlgll SYrBPp9Pu0Y0lnh6tJxetk4V9VqcigWlJ/nZgsqhxh0x5g/9l6PAL8i+M0DcJ1jHPuYY 1TVQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <006401cdb9f3$bf796d50$3e6c47f0$@de> References: <006401cdb9f3$bf796d50$3e6c47f0$@de> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 15:29:36 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LD archive search From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04012171cb48b004cd9c4580 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118992 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 19:29:37 +0000 (UTC) --f46d04012171cb48b004cd9c4580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It uses google, the only thing I could get to work. :) On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Michael Peters wrote: > > It works if you use the front page search box. No frills though.**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > that's not the archive search ... **** > > ** ** > > http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/wilma/LDarchive**** > > ** ** > > ... but it does search and find stuff. Thanks Jeff!**** > > ** ** > > -Michael**** > > ** ** > --f46d04012171cb48b004cd9c4580 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It uses google, the only thing I could get to work. :)

On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:

--f46d04012171cb48b004cd9c4580-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 3 20:01:14 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 33058183461; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 20:01:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 823941831/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.20.148/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.20.148 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApIBAFF3lVBYbRSU/2dsb2JhbAANN8ZbAQEBBDg2GwsYCR4HDwI1ERkDAa4fkwSMAYMXgyUDm1ONWw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,706,1344207600"; d="scan'208";a="823941831" Message-ID: <5095780B.10600@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2012 20:01:15 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LD archive search References: <000f01cdb9e1$565084b0$02f18e10$@de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118993 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 20:01:14 +0000 (UTC) enter multiple search terms separated by semi colon Vortex;patch Jeff Duke wrote: > It works if you use the front page search box. No frills though. > > J > > On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Michael Peters > wrote: > > we had this discussion before I think - is the mailinglist archive > search function broken? whatever I enter, I always get 0 results____ > > __ __ > > -Michael____ > > __ __ > > __ __ > > __ __ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 3 20:14:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B6F3183473; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 20:14:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <50957B28.8050606@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2012 16:14:32 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Thought Radio Playlist for November 3, 2012. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2FVIUC.A.brB.ssXlQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118994 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 20:14:36 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2012/121103.html The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EDT/GMT-4 on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. http://soundscapes.us/afterglow/index.html Show #236 November 3, 2012. On today's show, I played music by artists who will be playing at area concerts; the Soundscapes Concert Series, the Gatherings, and Event Horizon. November 9: http://eventhorizonseries.org November 17: http://thegatherings.org December 2: http://soundscapes.us Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Orbital Decay Live on WDIY * Live on GT (none) Twyndyllyngs Observation Event Horizon (electro-music media) Twyndyllyngs Approach Event Horizon (electro-music media) Brian Hirsch Black Spiral Vortex Sequences No. 21 Jon Palmer Between the Sun and Sequences No. 21 Moon Chuck Van Zyl Momento Mori MemorySpace (Synkronos) Hunter and Harrison Liquid to Solid - Phase 1 (Music With Space) Crystallization Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Christine Brown The Wishing Well The Wishing Well (Key Image) VA [Doug Manner] Maine Morning The Piano (Reviews New Age) 2002 Dreams of Peace Believe (Galactic Playground) Jill Haley Floating in the Zion and Bryce Canyon Narrows Soundscapes (none) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== IZZ Swallow Our Pride Live at NEARfest (Doone) IZZ My River Flows Live at NEARfest (Doone) IZZ Assurance Live at NEARfest (Doone) District 97 The Thief Trouble With Machines (Laser's Edge) Doubt Goodbye My Fellow Mercy, Pity, Peace & Love Soldier (Moonjune) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine and play music in support of the Soundscapes Concert Series on December 2 and the Gatherings Concert Series on November 17. Bill Fox ======================================================================== Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EDT/GMT-4. Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music. Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Website - http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 3 21:34:34 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44E9E183466; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 21:34:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ch2OLuR1y15pRFrTvSNz5zyGZHqdGKbX8OltnM4liAE=; b=c7tAMr896AGcZWEbDYEn4kCVaZYPlm78cwRWY/2HZl/N+8/5X1TOU217Anv7ieTF0Q DeJ1cRDmxYJT5YXm8jLGg7WR+ddunse3X5j15CWq86ormyom+U9427VqK0Gm1SyLoVQH a5+yJk+XEsoqlYnHlgosm8E5Xw71hlMiR3sWlWy8qVTvkOuqVrn3cJd4QmV1rOtsvGRe RCaixcqVH/pOEA/UPzokNfMO5OWWD1SmGo9cNUNj+r9Lhm9ulQnyMylJ4z16Sb6VZMg2 uBfPeFtsMQpqcAyG3VOhNLaTaKkODVGxqbh6U+pXtJAN806MuTTRwMGohiXvb/HEaDB8 2CrQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3083677841D53B448CB0AD1AE93B19A75275D7C5@SN2PRD0410MB360.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> References: <3083677841D53B448CB0AD1AE93B19A75275D7C5@SN2PRD0410MB360.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 14:34:32 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A (perhaps) not elementary Mobius question From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118995 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 21:34:33 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Jeff, If that ever works it will be very cool, but for now I am happy to have things working well enough with a few new tricks (I'm beginning to write my first scripts even). I'm starting to see the vistas open up and that is always cool. Thanks for the support (and Mobius!) Kevin On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Jeff Larson wro= te: > No, it isn't possible to apply transformations to shuffle granules. It's= on the todo list, but I can't say when I'll get to it. > > You can do something sort of like this with a script that uses the Move f= unction to jump around mixed with SpeedStep, Reverse, etc. then use Bounce = to record this into another track. The key is that you have to apply the e= ffects in real time, we can't yet do them instantly. > > Jeff > > ________________________________________ > From: Kevin Cheli-Colando [billowhead@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 1:48 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: A (perhaps) not elementary Mobius question > > So, after playing around with Mobius and enjoying the shuffle effects > immensely I was wondering if it was possible to implement things like > pitch shifting individual granules (or reversing parts, speed shifting > parts, etc.)? > > If anyone really dislikes reading or responding to these types of > questions just send a message with RTFM and I'll hide away and stop. > I just find it generally more efficient to ask than to read and > re-read manuals when I'm not even entirely sure what to look for. > > Thanks as always, > > Kevin > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble= . > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 3 22:18:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C0A8183466; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 22:18:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=PB+CD8apFzAtCpYoOSvOl85jXFd+KF6bkQUyf/pouGQ=; b=WqDRM37td182D76bACU5v55WdOQt66m3Q0zS9YfpYhb0Rxid9+SZ5WfamMDi2ztn7Q esvXsmBzVgvoR3daHWWGxhlF8fNzjsmW3kAELamHk3uOVsTXgiqFBFQKtFs0YSz1DIpw 00tNKJ2gtx1rZrga+A11mTr9fldlgVNo5R2W8YmhzZW2Iam7+v+fj3IHQLqlNR+tTiOf P7Pdkbsyc50sKwXrTHVyEaxc9ch4t3LUchxmBpLBvbRMhlrSo2Cl5uZo/nzRE50ssoRt UpXr1ekTRCsRQ8jPxA6ARs7CBJpH2exkTliyYn/U1Hcti6jfFRna36k3MPhf2Rqz1Z/v VFwQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 23:18:15 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: GR-55 Guitar Synth with Fretless Guitar - demo recordings From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118996 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 22:18:16 +0000 (UTC) Hi, Someone asked on Facebook what the GR-55 sounds like on a fretless guitar so I recorded two quick demo clips: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4963264/gr55_fretless_demo_sitar.mp3 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4963264/gr55_fretless_demo..mp3 As you can hear the GR-55 is capable of following even the widest glissando. Here I'm using the GR-55's expression pedal to crank up both feedback and volume for delay units, both in the GR-55 and in the laptop rig, for simple looping. I think it's cool that the GR-55 can send MIDI out through a USB cable, makes for very fast and easy setting up. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 4 03:23:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D16F183465; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 03:23:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5095DFC6.5040005@theambientping.com> Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2012 23:23:50 -0400 From: PiNG Reply-To: ping@theambientping.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ambient@hyperreal" , Dark Seeds , Drone Deep Chill , Loopers Delight , The Ambient Way Subject: 11.06.12 > The PiNG presents dreamSTATE + Anomalous Disturbances + Wassonic + General Chaos Visuals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020208.5095DFCA.00F5,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 Resent-Message-ID: <328jO.A.6TF.L_dlQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118997 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 03:23:55 +0000 (UTC) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11.06.12 . THE AMBiENT PiNG presents THE RETURN OF THE dreamSTATE DRONE CYCLE 2012 . Part Eleven . (D) featuring dreamSTATE with TERRENCE O'BRIEN plus sets by ANOMALOUS DISTURBANCES + WASSONIC + projections by GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS @ Supermarket . 268 Augusta Ave . Kensington Market just south of College . Map, info and directions at: http://www.supermarkettoronto.com/site/section/contact Tues. Nov. 6th . Doors open at 8:00 . 1st set at 8:00 . $6 Plan to arrive early as we've got a full night of sound flight. In order to pack everything in, Anomalous Disturbances will be starting the evening out with a set at 8:00PM SHARP! 08:00 - Anomalous Disturbances 09:15 - dreamSTATE with Terrence O'Brien 10:15 - Wassonic Thanks to Jeff Howard, we'll get the PiNG LiVE Stream flowing again this month for those of you outside of Toronto. Sneak a peek at: http://www.livestream.com/theambientping . dreamSTATE with TERRENCE O'BRIEN . Dial D for drone, for the second last drone in the cycle, dreamSTATE plugs in with Terrence O'Brien of Anomalous Disturbances to unlock the key of D. Expect the dials to be cranked up way past eleven, EFX units set to stun and loopers in infinite circular motion as bowed and manipulated guitar strings mesh and collide with an electronic pulsating current. http://www.dreamstate.to . ANOMALOUS DISTURBANCES + WASSONIC . Emanating from Vancouver, BC, Anomalous Disturbances, aka Terrence (Terry) O'Brien, creates ambient soundworlds utilizing his array of guitar synthesizers, sound processors and looping devices, through which he plays his guitar. Terrence constructs improvised mixes of ethereal washes, snaking drones, subterranean rumblings, ghostly melodies, hums, murmurs, bleeps, bloops, sci-fi noize, disembodied voices and the occasional found sound/field recording. He has released five albums of looping ambient-drone guitar improvs and contributed to collaborative projects with PiNG alumni, Matthew Poulakakis (Wassonic), as well as Eric Hopper and Jamie Todd (SADU). A new album, Archive Three, is forthcoming from Anomalous Disturbances on Dec. 21, 2012. Terrence will be joined by his brothers Chris and Mike on percussive enhancement during his AD set and later will be joining Matthew Poulakakis for a special Wassonic set of Lost World Music. http://www.anomalousdisturbances.com . GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS . Stephen Lindsey and Eric Siegerman, will splash some light, colour and fog all over their canvas surrounding the stage. http://www.generalchaosvisuals.ca . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . COMiNG SOON: . Tuesday December 4th 2012 . THE PiNG's presents The RETURN of the dreamSTATE DRONE CYCLE . Part Twelve . (C#) featuring dreamSTATE with SORCERER plus sets by DARREN COPELAND + SORCERER / SYLKEN / MICHAEL HOLCER plus projections by GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS @ Supermarket . 268 Augusta Ave . Kensington Market just south of College . Map, info and directions at: http://www.supermarkettoronto.com/site/section/contact PiNG doors open at 8 . 1st set at 8:15 . $6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Listen now -> dreamSTATE vs Heiki - THE NORTH SHORE paper + sound has set up "The North Shore" on Bandcamp, where you can now audition each piece in its entirety (even the entire 40 minutes of "Ice Flow") and also buy the album or individual tracks as 320Kbps mp3s or FLAC or order the special CD package - a hand-numbered, limited-edition of 250 copies in digipak with glass-mastered audio CD and 4 signed artcards. The Bandcamp link is: http://heiki.bandcamp.com/album/the-north-shore The CD and mp3s can also be purchased online through CD Baby at: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/dreamstate4 Recorded in January 2012 by dreamSTATE with Heiki Sillaste during prep sessions and live at the PiNG for the first instalment of this year's Drone Cycle, "The North Shore" sonically evokes the Canadian winters of their lifetimes - travels through white fields and deep woods, along frozen rivers and by the shorelines of great lakes. CDs will also be available during Tuesday's show at the ping things table. http://www.pingthings.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ---> KALTE LIVE IN TORONTO and LONDON <--- Our good friends, Deane Hughes and Rik MacLean are very pleased to announce that Kalte will be opening for a pair of performances by the legendary STEVEN SEVERIN (Siouxsie and the Banshees) in London on Nov. 9th at Wolf Performance Hall and Toronto on Nov. 10th at Nocturne. STEVEN SEVERIN will be performing his new score to the classic film VAMPYR. Rik will have a limited number of advance tickets for the Toronto show available for sale at the PiNG this Tuesday. ($25@ - cash only). For more information please visit http://www.kaltemusic.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THE AMBiENT PiNG is a Toronto based creative community of audio artists, performers, musicians and visual artists. The PiNG presents live multimedia performances featuring ambient, electronic, soundscape, space, drone, psychedelic, chillout, downtempo, darkwave and experimental artists from around the world. http://www.theambientping.com The PiNG also has a Twitter account to send you advance updates and reminders of the when & where of future PiNG events. Just search for ambientping to find us. http://twitter.com We're also on facebook too, again just search THE AMBiENT PiNG. http://www.facebook.com ViSiT the ping things store for ambient, electronic and chill things: http://www.pingthings.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Please forward this e-mail to any interested friends or appropriate newsgroups. Thanks. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 4 04:22:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E765A183461; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 04:22:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=BEqyPm8Tzk6M/88XtyPIjnq9WTTNk3p1a0a+HZl71Q0=; b=n6qBxbVXCGsOPhs+4rZoCpPijqbrS7bycjYXy3FoBFqscswr4r2z3n5TYcPH8OqPow Z4wU/kYLHBvgTRdwVUWcAMNvUDb/EkycbdGB5BcokSTDheF8Fp7LXDYxw+BCDsVxmpmr /cVnHGtpqA9zIDEl9kn8rCoPILH+4YU7ygVOyGrk8CrUmK1nF3njgGxyOD4lCGuf//Yt x94vHk3KW0vsaxaXfoRAL2lx7PCJgxg9NTRMehqo2SiZ/GlDNdEVBkRTza9MF/RcIZlK P7I8xN8e8JNoTSPMcZhEwx2yI96XzeL8kC5yfmJFYG+zY04JhjBuk+HqMlS2VsSNGgwM PyIg== Subject: Re: I want to take on an IDM style of looping Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Matthias Grob In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 01:22:01 -0300 Cc: LLP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118998 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 04:22:07 +0000 (UTC) nice document! how about posting it to Livelooping.org? On 31.10.2012, at 16:52, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > This little experiment I did with Mobius a while ago may also be of > interest: http://goo.gl/X5aXJ > Sylvain > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 4 15:43:29 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12EBB183460; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 15:43:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=UDd/xyh1BbZOjFmFaXDBnBYoAyCsWIVPvlBnQahsjns=; b=fHC8cZ8oYnPQnpskGdNKzS/nTfb3HFs1P0CUWn7lhed+Mf53oOcgpaJJVuQHliy+Qs rHZQ8TsXIGIb6Ql+dFgK0wgOviK8uttwvCq6Bz3bvDCiyXjFWPNfUkFndv+7/LRVy99m VeL2QH66q2ZfjRkGb/ZeaAqWF6TddcyLGFNWHociuZScWEoW5B2YLxoPc3RKvnZhouvg RI2R8TgtLdFzKRnv8b2J1VWOdnFt10gQ6vA7a8uG2Zd4T1N7xTWozeQDMymDCSQTtqS4 oKQKNhvF2ommp5O+y9kSmYYOXHe7uAHnJ1Jr3iGqwIXdW4BtEFdj4siK7w5Che3eTeFg znMw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <50902F72.8010508@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 17:43:28 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: Put your prayers, hopes, and whatever else you can offer out to the east coast. From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6d8b28e7e4f304cdad3a19 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118999 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 15:43:28 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b6d8b28e7e4f304cdad3a19 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Jim for sharing this one (you and Jeff) - enjoyed that! 2012/10/31 Jim Goodin > My family and I too faired well. We were far enough inland in Park Slope > that really only had constant wind and few down trees and thankfully neve= r > lost power. We were as several have echo'd much fortunate than those in > coastal NJ and CT, feel for them. Mother Nature really spoke to the east > coast in this one. > > I will see during the hours fellow looper and close friend Jeff [Duke] > reached out to check on me yesterday during the day. The conversation le= d > to a NinJam last night about 9:30 EST with me here in Brooklyn and Jeff i= n > Florida. We have not played together in over a year and equally Jeff who > has been healing from shoulder issues has only recently returned to > playing. Last night he sounded like he'd never stopped. Here's a link t= o > one of our sections. > > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/251618/Jeff_Duke_Jim_Goodin_Through_the_Wire_Thro= ugh_the_Storm_102912.mp3 > > Peace to all and especially to those that are having a rough time out her= e. > > Jim > > >> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Rick Walker wrote= : >> >>> On 10/30/12 10:21 AM, teddyjam.com wrote: >>> >>> Thanks... all ok here in Brooklyn, except for a bunch of flooding of >>> people's basements... few trees down, subways shut down, business lost, >>> etc... >>> miraculously we didn't lose power. I'd say we fared better than expecte= d >>> so far. >>> >>> What a blessing. Glad you made it through. >>> >>> We've been praying for you out here on the Left Coast! >>> >>> Rick Walker, Chris Wedertz, Bill Walker and Nancy LeVan >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > -- > -- > *jimgoodin.com* - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, > color blue, repetitive minimalism' > > *The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music* - > 'Organically inspired New Music' > > *From Brooklyn To Glindran *, a > new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds fr= om > this CD will benefit *JDRF International * > > *Tips Across the Waters > *, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware. > > --=20 Petri --047d7b6d8b28e7e4f304cdad3a19 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Jim for sharing this one (you and Jeff) - enjoyed that!


<= br>
2012/10/31 Jim Goodin <<= a href=3D"mailto:jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jimgoodinmusic= @gmail.com>
My family and I too faired well. =A0We were = far enough inland in Park Slope that really only had constant wind and few = down trees and thankfully never lost power. =A0We were as several have echo= 'd much fortunate than those in coastal NJ and CT, feel for them. =A0Mo= ther Nature really spoke to the east coast in this one.

I will see during the hours fellow looper and close friend J= eff [Duke] reached out to check on me yesterday during the day. =A0The conv= ersation led to a NinJam last night about 9:30 EST with me here in Brooklyn= and Jeff in Florida. =A0We have not played together in over a year and equ= ally Jeff who has been healing from shoulder issues has only recently retur= ned to playing. =A0Last night he sounded like he'd never stopped. =A0He= re's a link to one of our sections.


Peace to all and especially to those that are having a = rough time out here.

Jim


On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at = 3:50 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
=20 =20 =20
On 10/30/12 10:21 AM, teddyjam.com wrote:
Thanks... all ok here in Brooklyn, except for= a bunch of flooding of people's basements... few trees down, subways shut down, business lost, etc...
miraculously we didn't lose power. I'd say we fared bett= er than expected so far.
What a blessing. Glad you made it through.

=A0 We've been praying for you out here on the = Left Coast!

Rick Walker, Chris Wedertz, Bill Walker and Nancy LeVan







--
--
jimgoodin.com - 'Acous= tic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive minimalism'
=A0
The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music=A0- 'Organ= ically inspired New Music'
=A0
From Brooklyn To Glind= ran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th= =F6rn.=A0 Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF International

Tips Across the Waters, a n= ew app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.




--
Petri


--047d7b6d8b28e7e4f304cdad3a19-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 4 17:42:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9EED1183461; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 17:42:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date :to; bh=2c/LQ8SFM4q4LA+RHq8BYfUpHkcVte4i5iGxNx1MFtU=; b=wIE1vo1QfKEMvJXYumcJBILKjy/NEZTRlCaXxnQU0nFQet+kpJD0ghl/e6gsuQsQjr n9EdYPNprWd2HGzqJP1Nw3Hpa8/1el4znUySdqWFiqhh9wW7NGo8uSFvoY37DC1g2hBc EKn0BIzmWs+dwSb6cjt++O3XbunqOxpFn8/KSgmE1EAWJiKts/bLP4JOrZVusZ7Qoo5K lxYPy6OGUJd93ikjUef3yXddBpYlWj/y53rU91L0Egs/iZOuNKX9Ib/HoVfHNyGBt2bc R9UZRn0JrGWbs5Pg60XglC7GpDeuOg2BbnkBPXFFVYVsiO0VZEZIbeOzol+MT1vV4Qrg /rJA== References: <50902F72.8010508@cruzio.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9679E617-BED5-4748-863F-7549D5A5D363 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10A523) From: Jim Goodin Subject: Re: Put your prayers, hopes, and whatever else you can offer out to the east coast. Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 12:42:54 -0500 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119000 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 17:42:56 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-9679E617-BED5-4748-863F-7549D5A5D363 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Petri thanks very, hope things are well with you. Sorry we have not worked o= n another collaboration, at some point. Jim On Nov 4, 2012, at 10:43 AM, Petri Lahtinen wr= ote: > Thanks Jim for sharing this one (you and Jeff) - enjoyed that! >=20 >=20 >=20 > 2012/10/31 Jim Goodin >> My family and I too faired well. We were far enough inland in Park Slope= that really only had constant wind and few down trees and thankfully never l= ost power. We were as several have echo'd much fortunate than those in coas= tal NJ and CT, feel for them. Mother Nature really spoke to the east coast i= n this one. >>=20 >> I will see during the hours fellow looper and close friend Jeff [Duke] re= ached out to check on me yesterday during the day. The conversation led to a= NinJam last night about 9:30 EST with me here in Brooklyn and Jeff in Flori= da. We have not played together in over a year and equally Jeff who has bee= n healing from shoulder issues has only recently returned to playing. Last n= ight he sounded like he'd never stopped. Here's a link to one of our sectio= ns. >>=20 >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/251618/Jeff_Duke_Jim_Goodin_Through_the_Wire_Thro= ugh_the_Storm_102912.mp3 >>=20 >> Peace to all and especially to those that are having a rough time out her= e. >>=20 >> Jim >>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Rick Walker wrote= : >>>> On 10/30/12 10:21 AM, teddyjam.com wrote: >>>>> Thanks... all ok here in Brooklyn, except for a bunch of flooding of p= eople's basements... few trees down, subways shut down, business lost, etc..= . >>>>> miraculously we didn't lose power. I'd say we fared better than expect= ed so far. >>>> What a blessing. Glad you made it through. >>>>=20 >>>> We've been praying for you out here on the Left Coast! >>>>=20 >>>> Rick Walker, Chris Wedertz, Bill Walker and Nancy LeVan >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> -- >> jimgoodin.com - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive mini= malism' >> =20 >> The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music - 'Organically inspired New Music' >> =20 >> =46rom Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodi= n & Peter Th=C3=B6rn. Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF International= >>=20 >> Tips Across the Waters, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire= Ware. >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Petri=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-9679E617-BED5-4748-863F-7549D5A5D363 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Petri thanks very, hope things are wel= l with you. Sorry we have not worked on another collaboration, at some point= .

Jim

On Nov 4, 2012, at 10:43 AM, Petri Lah= tinen <kollegavalmentaja@g= mail.com> wrote:

Thanks J= im for sharing this one (you and Jeff) - enjoyed that!



2012/10/31 Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com<= /a>>
My family and I too faired well.  We were= far enough inland in Park Slope that really only had constant wind and few d= own trees and thankfully never lost power.  We were as several have ech= o'd much fortunate than those in coastal NJ and CT, feel for them.  Mot= her Nature really spoke to the east coast in this one.

I will see during the hours fellow looper and close friend Je= ff [Duke] reached out to check on me yesterday during the day.  The con= versation led to a NinJam last night about 9:30 EST with me here in Brooklyn= and Jeff in Florida.  We have not played together in over a year and e= qually Jeff who has been healing from shoulder issues has only recently retu= rned to playing.  Last night he sounded like he'd never stopped.  = Here's a link to one of our sections.

Peace to all and especially to those that are having a r= ough time out here.

Jim


On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 3= :50 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
=20 =20 =20
On 10/30/12 10:21 AM, teddyjam.com wrote:
Thanks... all ok here in Brooklyn, except for a= bunch of flooding of people's basements... few trees down, subways shut down, business lost, etc...
miraculously we didn't lose power. I'd say we fared better than expected so far.
What a blessing. Glad you made it through.

  We've been praying for you out here on the Le= ft Coast!

Rick Walker, Chris Wedertz, Bill Walker and Nancy LeVan







--
--
jimgoodin.com - 'Acoustic guita= r renaissance, color blue, repetitive minimalism'
 
The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music - 'Organi= cally inspired New Music'
 
=46rom Brooklyn To Glindra= n, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=C3=B6= rn.  Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF International

Tips Across the Waters, a new= app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.




--
Petri


= --Apple-Mail-9679E617-BED5-4748-863F-7549D5A5D363-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 4 19:51:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8286183461; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 19:51:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <5096C72A.7060707@soundscapes.us> Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 14:51:06 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: The Soundscapes Concert Series Presents HUNTER&HARRISON and GENETIQUE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119001 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 19:51:10 +0000 (UTC) For Immediate Release... CONCERT ANNOUNCEMENT: Sunday, December 2, 8:00 pm, the Soundscapes Concert Series returns to the Nazareth Center for the Arts (30 Belvidere Street, Nazareth, PA 18064) with Hunter and Harrison (New Jersey) and Genetique (Philadelphia). HUNTER AND HARRISON: This is the duo of Mike Hunter (Ombient, Mayakara,Brainstatik) and Harrison McKay (Tangent Project). This duo loops soundscapes using guitars and electronics. Their music is described as an improptu collision of otherworldly tones mixed with repetitive shapes, shimmering slabs of sound, and unexpected dissonance. Mike is also the host of Music with Space on WPRB in Princeton, NJ. One feature of Mike's show is the support of live radio concerts by local musicians as well as touring musicians passing through the area. GENETIQUE: Aaron Todd is from the Philadelphia area and has been composing electronic music for five years under the name Genetique. Recently, he has performed at Electro-Music 2011 and 2012. A major part of Aaron's music is live manipulation and deformation of rhythmic elements. Many of his themes evoke the feeling of travel by the use of textures that slowly evolve throughout the song. Aaron utilizes both hardware and software instruments and tends to write music in a minor key that does not conform to any particular genre. His influences include Aphex Twin, Autechre, Tipper, and Cex. The Soundscapes Concert Series is the concert companion to the Galactic Travels radio program on WDIY-FM and to Thought Radio on WMUH-FM and presents electronic music to the Lehigh Valley. This is the concert series that presented Broekhuis, Keller & Schonwalder (Germany), Wave World (Netherlands), Dean DeBenedictis & Vic Hennegan (California), Bernhard Wosteinrich (Germany), Robert Rich (California), vidnaObmana (Belgium), The Ministry of Inside Things (Philadelphia), Richard Lainhart (New York), Orbital Decay (Quakertown), Mark Jenkins (UK), Mikronesia (Philadelphia), Tim Motzer (Philadelphia), The Tangent Project (Philadelphia), Technicolor Travel Agency (Poconos), and Twyndyllyngs (Lehigh Valley) to local audiences. SOUNDSCAPES CONCERT SERIES: http://soundscapes.us FLIER: http://soundscapes.us/concert019/flier.pdf BANNER: http://soundscapes.us/concert019/banner.jpg EVENT LISTING: http://electro-music.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=372611#372611 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 4 21:30:39 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4458183464; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 21:30:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_8dad70ff-b584-4e92-9d1f-5f5821a4dd02_" X-Originating-IP: [92.224.174.94] From: Sergio Girardi Sender: To: Subject: RE: Stopping by to say Hi. Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 22:30:36 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <005201cdb9f2$ee026150$ca0723f0$@co.uk> References: <005201cdb9f2$ee026150$ca0723f0$@co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Nov 2012 21:30:37.0263 (UTC) FILETIME=[A16B1DF0:01CDBAD3] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119002 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 21:30:38 +0000 (UTC) --_8dad70ff-b584-4e92-9d1f-5f5821a4dd02_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Welcome!I am quite new too and quite ignorant also.So I will not be able to= help you=2C but yes to salute you =3B)I have a Vocal300 too=2C it is sweet= . Love it. For what do you use it? Sergio From: roger@cogreslab.co.uk To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Stopping by to say Hi. Date: Sat=2C 3 Nov 2012 18:42:08 +0000 Just joined Looper=92s Delight=2C so howdy to y=92all! I hope to post a few= questions soon because I am an admitted beginner in this art=2C and play j= azz/blues/folk on the lowly saxophone in my retirement. I have now got a co= uple of RC 50s and more or less have got the hang of using them=2C and have= built a small video/audio studio in my cellar=2C equipped with drums=2C Ei= genharp Pico=2C Garageband and Digitech300 voice processor. I am aiming to = create an Album under the stage name Bampi Bill=2C called Songs from my Cel= lar during the next twelve months or less. (There=92s nothing like being am= bitious!). I am overwhelmed about the possibilities for live looping and lo= ok forward to joining the looping community=2C which seems quite a friendly= and helpful bunch of people. Best wishes=2C Roger =93Bampi Bill=94 Coghill= . = --_8dad70ff-b584-4e92-9d1f-5f5821a4dd02_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Welcome!
I am quite new too and quite ignorant also.
So I wil= l not be able to help you=2C but yes to salute you =3B)
I have a = Vocal300 too=2C it is sweet. Love it. For what do you use it?
Sergio

From: roger@cogreslab.co.uk
To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
Subject: Stopping by to say Hi.
Date: Sat=2C 3 Nov 2012= 18:42:08 +0000

Just jo= ined Looper=92s Delight=2C so howdy to y=92all! I hope to post a few questi= ons soon because I am an admitted beginner in this art=2C and play jazz/blu= es/folk on the lowly saxophone in my retirement. I have now got a couple of= RC 50s and more or less have got the hang of using them=2C and have built = a small video/audio studio in my cellar=2C equipped with drums=2C Eigenharp= Pico=2C Garageband and Digitech300 voice processor. I am aiming to create = an Album under the stage name Bampi Bill=2C called Songs from my Cellar dur= ing the next twelve months or less. (There=92s nothing like being ambitious= !). I am overwhelmed about the possibilities for live looping and look forw= ard to joining the looping community=2C which seems quite a friendly and he= lpful bunch of people. Best wishes=2C Roger =93Bampi Bill=94 Coghill.

= --_8dad70ff-b584-4e92-9d1f-5f5821a4dd02_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 4 22:09:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6EA2A183465; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 22:09:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 736966.55369.bm@omp1022.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1352066983; bh=SOBHmgilpvSFmt7GRtvSlU/ErbnAagAkvIJY1NAOMJ4=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bZA7Nu+osKFoLX+2voqn0AEuzNDVSnmKLFmGFojydhHQXQGZKp5iXe/pmby4Hd+pATpt8rdgkW7Zt2LSP1fq8GqZPw9Xk2hW4XWET44Zc/cvL507ZKKrSDpMpMdHKdv51DlVj+U/p3u/HE/dwpufZqCLhR1lOy/W6TWo0kF1FzY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LnqY+TBxuxd79/H15U2JS3ZLk7PlCZ/qVjlqWu/S9AUJnMMrB+5hYiwEIW2Y+m6JMADWlv7U0sjL+SVGSdOgSrDqwN2tud1eAC56cfHxx9kZCmBRbBl15zFYMax064iR1FZLkpCgozyFjWaFh6DUAxafNX3gM0z+3Yk58bykSIA=; X-YMail-OSG: 0IARqrYVM1mbkt0YTZxlMDAwLW.iwmEg74Nkzb6NJ5eSJ4O GCTquOr7umpEJT.IXk0ZEQ3oz_pK8tRAzOFsC7t5QKGvk7CX4p4fzjKUsMbH h8gPKTGSZ91.SJhsc43lmeyYlSlxHYrtwD7Bz26R1BfBAG_0nMANgiB8_fy. 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MIlDrjgN6ArgpuDE7U9L6iyOmxuR7N.H1HU.83UmVxk7UAjnvjLQf_oo- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,Cg0KV2hhdCBJIHdhbnQgdG8ga25vdyBpcyBpZiB0aGVyZXMgYW55IGdyb3VwaWUgYWN0aW9uIGF0IFkySyBzaG93cy4gQW55IGhvdCBjaGlja3MgdGhlcmUgd2l0aCBwaWVyY2luZ3M_DQoNCg0KDQotLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0NCk9uIFdlZCwgT2N0IDMxLCAyMDEyIDI6MzYgUE0gUERUIERhbmllbCBUaG9tYXMgd3JvdGU6DQoNCj5JIGxvdmUgdGhpcyBzdG9yeSEgIEVkdWNhdGUgYW5kIEluc3BpcmUgbG9vcGVycyEgICBXaGF0IGEgZ3JlYXQgY29tbXVuaXR5Lg0KPg0KPkRhbmllbA0BMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.460 Message-ID: <1352066983.94640.BPMail_high_carrier@web121603.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 14:09:43 -0800 (PST) From: Elmer Fuddski Subject: Re: Amazing thing happened at Y2K12 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119003 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 22:09:45 +0000 (UTC) What I want to know is if theres any groupie action at Y2K shows. Any hot chicks there with piercings? ------------------------------ On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 2:36 PM PDT Daniel Thomas wrote: >I love this story! Educate and Inspire loopers! What a great community. > >Daniel >On Oct 27, 2012, at 1:25 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > >> One of our volunteers, Todd Kramer, brought his >> son, Neville to the the Y2K12 loop festival. >> >> While Todd graciously did the door, Neville had his eyes glued to the stage. >> He saw many performances (as well as with his dad when he wasn't working). >> >> Maha told me that he went to his school right afterwards and beatboxed >> for the kids and then taught them how to do it. He also taught them about live looping, >> which they didn't know about. >> >> He also said that one of his favorite artists was Stan Card (aka Stanosaur) who only >> used high volume feedback to create his looping performance. >> >> Afterwards, Neville went home and put microphones into different drums, turned up >> the volume to create feedback and then manipulated the feedback as he looped the >> results live. All on his own. >> >> Neville is 9 years old! >> >> All the hard work we did for the festival this year was worth it if only for this story of >> creativity, growth and excitement. This story is so inspiring to me. I'm going to >> go out and put mics in my drum and create some feedback today. >> >> Rick Walker >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 5 05:36:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5CDB4183473; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 05:36:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <50975069.9050406@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 21:36:41 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: eib halimski CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: What Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/samplers/computers References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <-5QlHC.A.o6B.wB1lQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119004 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 05:36:48 +0000 (UTC) eib halimski asked: > I've heard of 'midi clocking' that can sync multiple loopers but what > do i know, haven't tried any of them. sorry i'm not of any help. > having 2 units of echoplex (or more i think) is a much easier option > but costs a bit more The new Looperalative LP-2 Mini Looper has robust Midi synchronization. With two of them hooked up; whichever looper starts automatically becomes the master for the other and vice versa). At a streetprice of $300 (USD), two of the units would probably much cheaper than buying 2 used echoplexes. On top of that, the fidelity is better, with creation of up to 8 loops (stored immediately on an SD card), addition of ≈ to the echoplexes 1/2 speed, 30 levels of undo, feedback (with automatic undo points set at every 15% reduction), and these additional added features: 1) Half Speed (Double Speed at half bandwidth) 2) Quarter Speed (Quadruple Speed at quarter bandwidth - artifacty but very hip for special effects) 3) Retrigger (one shot) 4) Retrigger (continuous) 5) Retrigger (random) 6) Replace 7) Quantized Replace (equivalent to SUS = SUB in the echoplex or Q-Replace in the LP-1) in these potential time signatures: 4/4 (8ths, 16ths, triplet 8ths, triplet 16ths), 7/8, 9/8, 10/8 (5/4) and the addition of 1/64ths for glitch effects) My brother Bill has been triggering other LP-2s, his LP-1 and simultaneously driving midi driven time based effects (delays, modulations, panners, etc.) on his other effects pedals (M-9, etc.) with great effect. Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 5 06:05:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98BF8183466; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 06:05:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=22xj2RLUlfvpARkhZDKtKwjNW2ws8gkpY1eeo1snEIY=; b=LP2WfebuiRapNxq5ziaLHaR6aezlngJ1C1THBfNZ8twkP5eSlR4oECy3NcK1MtqLHC mvmiqzRTjsoOwoKNZHsDFSYzQXxjU0bWsx2TlbxgiM4vsFJDPXgg3zNMEATyroSbFqXR xy2MMFV8qtMvorJzgNdchRNaRrJt7BKtClBz3gCsB04LsuosevmqlWH9vKCZmcvMOM8P ywj0wAg0sKMR2LxY+mKOicd6rLB8fG+0s1B45WH9O15cz7+xyYS3XRDq7Iel9a2XTky6 9Z7xRR169lEQF79rCu43z4J+Er20/OCYGD8KVnod4ZNq1Mca1birVQuUvpiWDw7Kel2g iQ8Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jean-Paul De Roover Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 01:05:23 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: "Welcome to the Machine" [Pink Floyd] looping cover To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec553ff428ce75d04cdb94687 Resent-Message-ID: <7CBKTD.A.GMC.4c1lQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119005 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 06:05:44 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec553ff428ce75d04cdb94687 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey everyone, Here's my looping version of "Welcome to the Machine" by Pink Floyd. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gvhw_NQR9w Those of you that were at Y2KX+2 in Santa Cruz saw me do this live, but this particular video is from a show in my hometown of Thunder Bay, ON, at the Study. Let me know what you think! -- Jean-Paul De Roover www.jeanpaulderoover.com (807) 251-3376 --bcaec553ff428ce75d04cdb94687 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey everyone,

Here's my looping version of "Wel= come to the Machine" by Pink Floyd.=A0


Those of you that were at Y2KX+2 in Santa Cruz sa= w me do this live, but this particular video is from a show in my hometown = of Thunder Bay, ON, at the Study. Let me know what you think!

--
Jean-Paul De Roover
www.jeanpaulderoover.com
(807) 251-3= 376
--bcaec553ff428ce75d04cdb94687-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 5 06:37:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1EF19183464; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 06:37:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 503 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 06:37:40 UTC X-SFR-UUID: 20121105062916559.0DA1F70000AF@msfrf2109.sfr.fr From: Philippe ollivier Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: What Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/samplers/computers Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 07:29:14 +0100 References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_26A0D02A-CC5C-4573-96A5-C1CDF5678219" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119006 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 06:37:41 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_26A0D02A-CC5C-4573-96A5-C1CDF5678219 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Hi Jannis, If you are on Mac, you can look at Logelloop=85 Logelloop permits to = record loops in 10 tracks and 3 banks and have the possibility to record = in mono or stereo, spatialise or route each track separately. Logelloop = can also calculate the tempo of a loop and send the tempo as midi or be = synced to a midi clock. It is downloadable there : www.logelloop.com Philippe Le 3 nov. 2012 =E0 16:35, jannis kempkens = a =E9crit : > Hey everyone! >=20 > I=B4ve been playing and looping in my band for sometime now, but only = worked with a Boss rc 50 so far. I have been very happy with it as a = live looper so far, but now got to a point, where our gigs are getting = bigger and i want to work on the sound. > So far I always put everything (beats, vocals, guitar, percussions, = synths) into a mixer and from there into my rc50, which works fine, but = leads often to clipping or other distortion. > Trying to not run the beats through my looper, but play it straight = from my electribe sx (that=B4s where they come from originally) I found = it very difficult/not working to midi sync these two. > What I=B4m now looking for is a looper that syncs with other loopers = and computers or an other way to have more outputs than the stereo-di = you get from the rc 50. >=20 > If anyone has an idea, i would more than appreciate it! > Thank you already! > Jannis --Apple-Mail=_26A0D02A-CC5C-4573-96A5-C1CDF5678219 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Hi Jannis,
If you are on = Mac, you can look at Logelloop=85 Logelloop permits to record loops in = 10 tracks and 3 banks and have the possibility to record in mono or = stereo, spatialise or route each track separately. Logelloop can also = calculate the tempo of a loop and send the tempo as midi or be synced to = a midi clock.
It is downloadable there : www.logelloop.com
Philippe
jannis.kempkens@googlemail.= com> a =E9crit :

Hey = everyone!

I=B4ve been playing and looping in my band for = sometime now, but only worked with a Boss rc 50 so far. I have been very = happy with it as a live looper so far, but now got to a point, where our = gigs are getting bigger and i want to work on the sound.
So far I always put everything (beats, vocals, guitar, percussions, = synths) into a mixer and from there into my rc50, which works fine, but = leads often to clipping or other distortion.
Trying to not run = the beats through my looper, but play it straight from my electribe sx = (that=B4s where they come from originally) I found it very difficult/not = working to midi sync these two.
What I=B4m now looking for is a looper that syncs with other = loopers and computers or an other way to have more outputs than the = stereo-di you get from the rc 50.

If anyone has = an idea, i would more than appreciate it!
Thank you already!
Jannis


= --Apple-Mail=_26A0D02A-CC5C-4573-96A5-C1CDF5678219-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 5 07:11:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A5198183466; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 07:11:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <509766AF.3080308@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 23:11:43 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Elmer Fuddski CC: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Amazing thing happened at Y2K12 References: <1352066983.94640.BPMail_high_carrier@web121603.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1352066983.94640.BPMail_high_carrier@web121603.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070806080801080602060501" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119007 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 07:11:49 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070806080801080602060501 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 11/4/12 2:09 PM, Elmer Fuddski wrote: > What I want to know is if theres any groupie action at Y2K shows. Any hot chicks there with piercings? You just have to come to find out the answer to that question. You are totally invited to come performin late October 2013. Just let me know by August 1 of next year if that sounds appealing. yours, Rick Walker --------------070806080801080602060501 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 11/4/12 2:09 PM, Elmer Fuddski wrote:
What I want to know is if theres any groupie action at Y2K shows. Any hot chicks there with piercings?
You just have to come to find out the answer to that question.


You are totally invited to come perform in late October 2013.

Just let me know by August 1 of next year if that sounds appealing.


yours, 

Rick Walker
 --------------070806080801080602060501-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 5 07:53:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9121B183466; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 07:53:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=7JVqFFb0yn3KcwdtCWruJO0HBknCzGnvp9HLIm54V4Y=; b=fOI6S0DVJ+jMMcIbZfwaO7DXqxgGFBhv5nowFnHpMkPABAeFDFkTercfZYJ+DU5yn7 pF52VISWQ0HVj1h27Ty6okqPQOSvpXgs3BHETetoad0KCBbfYpkiVv4k9h9GfbL1jEqD BwjR0Lrwzzm++zUpqvkCxeYKPoN6BnHWxFF51iVzcXVP+Tqw+Je66wAlSzwr6nHKcxnR mnEAT6skNswRYQbsNme0Dx6LMVqubVkHR3KeGtHbN9n1fs9myFT0zwE5M6eIvjUwp2jW WQbJA9opJluUAIo8ptPdumBAXjmPn1zFY73qeBZCODs56S8M9SxNi0lwNYYVrzcVwy5Z ShNQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 15:53:46 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/samplers/computers From: eib halimski To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae93b5c72febb9004cdbac881 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119008 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 07:53:47 +0000 (UTC) --14dae93b5c72febb9004cdbac881 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Rick, been awhile old friend :) how's it been?. i hope i can try those LP1 and LP2 units. the quarter speed sounds irresistable :) On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Philippe ollivier < Philippe.ollivier@logellou.com> wrote: > Hi Jannis, > If you are on Mac, you can look at Logelloop=85 Logelloop permits to reco= rd > loops in 10 tracks and 3 banks and have the possibility to record in mono > or stereo, spatialise or route each track separately. Logelloop can also > calculate the tempo of a loop and send the tempo as midi or be synced to = a > midi clock. > > It is downloadable there : www.logelloop.com > > Philippe > > > Le 3 nov. 2012 =E0 16:35, jannis kempkens > a =E9crit : > > Hey everyone! > > I=B4ve been playing and looping in my band for sometime now, but only wor= ked > with a Boss rc 50 so far. I have been very happy with it as a live looper > so far, but now got to a point, where our gigs are getting bigger and i > want to work on the sound. > So far I always put everything (beats, vocals, guitar, percussions, > synths) into a mixer and from there into my rc50, which works fine, but > leads often to clipping or other distortion. > Trying to not run the beats through my looper, but play it straight from > my electribe sx (that=B4s where they come from originally) I found it ver= y > difficult/not working to midi sync these two. > What I=B4m now looking for is a looper that syncs with other loopers and > computers or an other way to have more outputs than the stereo-di you get > from the rc 50. > > If anyone has an idea, i would more than appreciate it! > Thank you already! > Jannis > > > > --14dae93b5c72febb9004cdbac881 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Rick,
been awhile old friend :) how's it been?. i hope i can try= those LP1 and LP2 units. the quarter speed sounds irresistable :)

<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Philippe ollivier= <Philippe.ollivier@logellou.com> wrote:
Hi Janni= s,
If you are on Mac, you can look at Logelloop=85 Lo= gelloop permits to record loops in 10 tracks and 3 banks and have the possi= bility to record in mono or stereo, spatialise or route each track separate= ly. Logelloop can also calculate the tempo of a loop and send the tempo as = midi or be synced to a midi clock.

It is downloadable there : <= a href=3D"http://www.logelloop.com" target=3D"_blank">www.logelloop.com=

Philippe

<= /span>

Le 3 nov. 2012 =E0 16:35, jannis kemp= kens <jannis.kempkens@googlemail.com> a =E9crit :

Hey everyone!

I=B4ve been playing an= d looping in my band for sometime now, but only worked with a Boss rc 50 so= far. I have been very happy with it as a live looper so far, but now got t= o a point, where our gigs are getting bigger and i want to work on the soun= d.
So far I always put everything (beats, vocals, guitar, percussions, sy= nths) into a mixer and from there into my rc50, which works fine, but leads= often to clipping or other distortion.
Trying to not run the bea= ts through my looper, but play it straight from my electribe sx (that=B4s w= here they come from originally) I found it very difficult/not working to mi= di sync these two.
What I=B4m now looking for is a looper that syncs with other loopers a= nd computers or an other way to have more outputs than the stereo-di you ge= t from the rc 50.

If anyone has an idea, i would m= ore than appreciate it!
Thank you already!
Jannis



<= /div> --14dae93b5c72febb9004cdbac881-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 5 07:56:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D05F9183466; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 07:56:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=2JL2zc/HQS+OKKbAtlT0jBxVz2HbDD4Cic+8jEKd98w=; b=gEWXlG6/p7tuMFQY2PlncFBhIMDkKS2zeqTfY3+QxT6inIKp2um1r+ccg15eCkhvea E/Rog/Hy4iaGFCqWBpJ2QT5tY3M/6hosdTd4pw5w33vdsd2u72KcCD/Gg3xjFx4Nxd/F 3ZhuKOYg9l+t6H9lQGcLmETNIohkCl7LD7C+7rkxbTIIxKBNdWcggNeBQ54QBncBaWEg zEvpDPq/gfBRa+QZjLcapYokSFIOhIftAYbjto9WJHx4lFmifjaqzv30Nfwy7uuc7tX8 Q5uIja8ozbWjEv5+hLSqiV+v7Mloq7aTlXhuwcjkWDx5pDryygntT6ZzgVnqunahVNaG PO2w== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <509766AF.3080308@cruzio.com> References: <1352066983.94640.BPMail_high_carrier@web121603.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <509766AF.3080308@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 15:56:42 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: Amazing thing happened at Y2K12 From: eib halimski To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb1ef4082d79704cdbad337 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119009 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 07:56:43 +0000 (UTC) --e89a8fb1ef4082d79704cdbad337 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I just wish i could come to perform there. but it just costs way too much. $10,000 (in my currency which we spend rm1 the same with $1 usd) wouldn't be enough. flight tickets, extra baggage/luggage fees. i wish i could be there. you guys enjoy. On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 11/4/12 2:09 PM, Elmer Fuddski wrote: > > What I want to know is if theres any groupie action at Y2K shows. Any hot chicks there with piercings? > > You just have to come to find out the answer to that question. > > > You are totally invited to come perform in late October 2013. > > Just let me know by August 1 of next year if that sounds appealing. > > > yours, > > Rick Walker > --e89a8fb1ef4082d79704cdbad337 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just wish i could come to perform there. but it just costs way too much. = $10,000 (in my currency which we spend rm1 the same with $1 usd) wouldn'= ;t be enough.
flight tickets, extra baggage/luggage fees. i wish i coul= d be there. you guys enjoy.

On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Rick Walker = <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
=20 =20 =20
On 11/4/12 2:09 PM, Elmer Fuddski wrote:
What I want to know is if theres any groupie action at Y2K shows=
. Any hot chicks there with piercings?
You just have to come to find out the answer to= that question.


You are totally invited to come perform in late October 2013.

Just let me know by August 1 of next year if that sounds appealing.


yours,=A0

Rick Walker

--e89a8fb1ef4082d79704cdbad337-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 5 10:02:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C9B46183452; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 10:02:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_d7b511d8-956f-4c31-886c-c5971937a252_" X-Originating-IP: [217.92.117.212] From: Sergio Girardi Sender: To: Subject: RE: What Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/samplers/computers Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 11:02:04 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <50975069.9050406@cruzio.com> References: ,<50975069.9050406@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2012 10:02:04.0490 (UTC) FILETIME=[9B7FFAA0:01CDBB3C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119010 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 10:02:05 +0000 (UTC) --_d7b511d8-956f-4c31-886c-c5971937a252_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hallo Rick=2C as far as I understood=2C Eib asked about a looper which can be synced with= other gears and/or daws.Anyway=2C this is also what I am intereste in. I s= till have here my Boomerang III but it is completely unable to sync with an= y other device at all.So I was thinking eventually to a looper which I coul= d use to sync it with my Octatrack of with other gears.THe looper should be= able to loop while slaved (because the Octatrack must be Master=2C that's = a fact=2C unfortunately).Can the LP2 do that? Can it sync well to other dev= ices or daw?And do I remember well or it can work with batteries?Because I = do not really need another stage looper=2C I need now a street looper with = batteries for when I will play in the streets with my friends... Thanks > Date: Sun=2C 4 Nov 2012 21:36:41 -0800 > From: looppool@cruzio.com > To: halimzainal@gmail.com > CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Re: What Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/sample= rs/computers >=20 > eib halimski asked: > > I've heard of 'midi clocking' that can sync multiple loopers but what=20 > > do i know=2C haven't tried any of them. sorry i'm not of any help.=20 > > having 2 units of echoplex (or more i think) is a much easier option=20 > > but costs a bit more >=20 >=20 > The new Looperalative LP-2 Mini Looper has robust Midi synchronization. > With two of them hooked up=3B whichever looper starts automatically=20 > becomes the master for the other > and vice versa). >=20 > At a streetprice of $300 (USD)=2C two of the units would probably much=20 > cheaper than buying 2 used echoplexes. >=20 > On top of that=2C the fidelity is better=2C with creation of up to 8 loop= s=20 > (stored immediately on an SD card)=2C > addition of =97 to the echoplexes 1/2 speed=2C 30 levels of undo=2C feedb= ack=20 > (with automatic > undo points set at every 15% reduction)=2C and these additional added=20 > features: >=20 > 1) Half Speed (Double Speed at half bandwidth) > 2) Quarter Speed (Quadruple Speed at quarter bandwidth - artifacty but=20 > very hip for special effects) > 3) Retrigger (one shot) > 4) Retrigger (continuous) > 5) Retrigger (random) > 6) Replace > 7) Quantized Replace (equivalent to SUS =3D SUB in the echoplex or=20 > Q-Replace in the LP-1) > in these potential time signatures: 4/4 (8ths=2C 16ths=2C triplet 8ths=2C= =20 > triplet 16ths)=2C 7/8=2C 9/8=2C 10/8 (5/4) > and the addition of 1/64ths for glitch effects) >=20 > My brother Bill has been triggering other LP-2s=2C his LP-1 and=20 > simultaneously driving midi driven time > based effects (delays=2C modulations=2C panners=2C etc.) on his other eff= ects=20 > pedals (M-9=2C etc.) with great effect. >=20 > Rick Walker >=20 = --_d7b511d8-956f-4c31-886c-c5971937a252_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hallo Rick=2C

as far as I understood=2C Eib asked about = a looper which can be synced with other gears and/or daws.
Anyway= =2C this is also what I am intereste in. I still have here my Boomerang III= but it is completely unable to sync with any other device at all.
So I was thinking eventually to a looper which I could use to sync it wit= h my Octatrack of with other gears.
THe looper should be able to = loop while slaved (because the Octatrack must be Master=2C that's a fact=2C= unfortunately).
Can the LP2 do that? Can it sync well to other d= evices or daw?
And do I remember well or it can work with batteri= es?
Because I do not really need another stage looper=2C I need n= ow a street looper with batteries for when I will play in the streets with = my friends...

Thanks

>=3B Date: Sun=2C 4 Nov 2012 21:36:41 -0800>=3B From: looppool@cruzio.com
>=3B To: halimzainal@gmail.com
&= gt=3B CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B Subject: Re: Re: Wh= at Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/samplers/computers
>= =3B
>=3B eib halimski asked:
>=3B >=3B I've heard of 'midi clo= cking' that can sync multiple loopers but what
>=3B >=3B do i know= =2C haven't tried any of them. sorry i'm not of any help.
>=3B >=3B= having 2 units of echoplex (or more i think) is a much easier option
&= gt=3B >=3B but costs a bit more
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B The new L= ooperalative LP-2 Mini Looper has robust Midi synchronization.
>=3B Wi= th two of them hooked up=3B whichever looper starts automatically
>= =3B becomes the master for the other
>=3B and vice versa).
>=3B <= br>>=3B At a streetprice of $300 (USD)=2C two of the units would probably= much
>=3B cheaper than buying 2 used echoplexes.
>=3B
>= =3B On top of that=2C the fidelity is better=2C with creation of up to 8 lo= ops
>=3B (stored immediately on an SD card)=2C
>=3B addition of = =97 to the echoplexes 1/2 speed=2C 30 levels of undo=2C feedback
>=3B= (with automatic
>=3B undo points set at every 15% reduction)=2C and t= hese additional added
>=3B features:
>=3B
>=3B 1) Half Spe= ed (Double Speed at half bandwidth)
>=3B 2) Quarter Speed (Quadruple S= peed at quarter bandwidth - artifacty but
>=3B very hip for special e= ffects)
>=3B 3) Retrigger (one shot)
>=3B 4) Retrigger (continuou= s)
>=3B 5) Retrigger (random)
>=3B 6) Replace
>=3B 7) Quanti= zed Replace (equivalent to SUS =3D SUB in the echoplex or
>=3B Q-Repl= ace in the LP-1)
>=3B in these potential time signatures: 4/4 (8ths=2C= 16ths=2C triplet 8ths=2C
>=3B triplet 16ths)=2C 7/8=2C 9/8=2C 10/8 (= 5/4)
>=3B and the addition of 1/64ths for glitch effects)
>=3B >=3B My brother Bill has been triggering other LP-2s=2C his LP-1 and >=3B simultaneously driving midi driven time
>=3B based effects (d= elays=2C modulations=2C panners=2C etc.) on his other effects
>=3B pe= dals (M-9=2C etc.) with great effect.
>=3B
>=3B Rick Walker
&= gt=3B
= --_d7b511d8-956f-4c31-886c-c5971937a252_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 5 10:09:02 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F4D818347B; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 10:09:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=5v3ew/OKjJVQDOttdVNUdW+dhF/SOv+D9RY1UQH3Ebo=; b=QcxZfU2H4uaRZhdimjxdxgivQWhBret6XnuIIFBR0K3zqF4Pj3nS02X0F44SkxSF06 vB7qlap17INf0o3+1BSzEyPSknBm9sst5XTVCKQfAnQ7XU3D+EtSPg7C9Px96thC4Yow Mfs4oq81lA0ejpyt4fn45oHNnag5ckpvD1RA49bJGlLx+CqWPeFf9WcQ4SaaQSmDMuPs qZeqAMFL/BZ2KOXuMbAb1PJEmI1QvFWTeeRDHNaLJWCq4aFDDzfl2cIE1RNEqcDiifnp lbEHedGZjdVLpW5Zt+2cYb/cAa8ZB+3PnuQpL0M2ZkfrpKD7AhwuaMPoilsX6+AkUJar fIcQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <50975069.9050406@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 18:09:01 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/samplers/computers From: eib halimski To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04440094aabbc504cdbcac09 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119011 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 10:09:02 +0000 (UTC) --f46d04440094aabbc504cdbcac09 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i believe this topic has been discussed before and some posted some kind of a central clock device to sync between different brand of loopers which is not possible (i think) back in 2010 i was hoping to sync between my dl4 and echoplex. well the response i got was it is was not not possible. i hope something like this is already in the market so that we can set master and slave looper. http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=3Dmidimasterclock On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Sergio Girardi wrot= e: > Hallo Rick, > > as far as I understood, Eib asked about a looper which can be synced with > other gears and/or daws. > Anyway, this is also what I am intereste in. I still have here my > Boomerang III but it is completely unable to sync with any other device a= t > all. > So I was thinking eventually to a looper which I could use to sync it wit= h > my Octatrack of with other gears. > THe looper should be able to loop while slaved (because the Octatrack mus= t > be Master, that's a fact, unfortunately). > Can the LP2 do that? Can it sync well to other devices or daw? > And do I remember well or it can work with batteries? > Because I do not really need another stage looper, I need now a street > looper with batteries for when I will play in the streets with my friends= ... > > Thanks > > > Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 21:36:41 -0800 > > From: looppool@cruzio.com > > To: halimzainal@gmail.com > > CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: Re: What Looper to use for syncing with other > loopers/samplers/computers > > > > > eib halimski asked: > > > I've heard of 'midi clocking' that can sync multiple loopers but what > > > do i know, haven't tried any of them. sorry i'm not of any help. > > > having 2 units of echoplex (or more i think) is a much easier option > > > but costs a bit more > > > > > > The new Looperalative LP-2 Mini Looper has robust Midi synchronization. > > With two of them hooked up; whichever looper starts automatically > > becomes the master for the other > > and vice versa). > > > > At a streetprice of $300 (USD), two of the units would probably much > > cheaper than buying 2 used echoplexes. > > > > On top of that, the fidelity is better, with creation of up to 8 loops > > (stored immediately on an SD card), > > addition of =E2=89=88 to the echoplexes 1/2 speed, 30 levels of undo, f= eedback > > (with automatic > > undo points set at every 15% reduction), and these additional added > > features: > > > > 1) Half Speed (Double Speed at half bandwidth) > > 2) Quarter Speed (Quadruple Speed at quarter bandwidth - artifacty but > > very hip for special effects) > > 3) Retrigger (one shot) > > 4) Retrigger (continuous) > > 5) Retrigger (random) > > 6) Replace > > 7) Quantized Replace (equivalent to SUS =3D SUB in the echoplex or > > Q-Replace in the LP-1) > > in these potential time signatures: 4/4 (8ths, 16ths, triplet 8ths, > > triplet 16ths), 7/8, 9/8, 10/8 (5/4) > > and the addition of 1/64ths for glitch effects) > > > > My brother Bill has been triggering other LP-2s, his LP-1 and > > simultaneously driving midi driven time > > based effects (delays, modulations, panners, etc.) on his other effects > > pedals (M-9, etc.) with great effect. > > > > Rick Walker > > > --f46d04440094aabbc504cdbcac09 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i believe this topic has been discussed before and some posted some kind of= a central clock device to sync between different brand of loopers which is= not possible (i think)
back in 2010 i was hoping to sync between my dl= 4 and echoplex. well the response i got was it is was not not possible.

i hope something like this is already in the market so = that we can set master and slave looper.=C2=A0http://www.midibox.org/dokuwik= i/doku.php?id=3Dmidimasterclock



On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Sergio Girard= i <simpliflying@gmail.com> wrote:
Hallo Rick,

as far as I understood, Eib asked about a lo= oper which can be synced with other gears and/or daws.
Anyway, th= is is also what I am intereste in. I still have here my Boomerang III but i= t is completely unable to sync with any other device at all.
So I was thinking eventually to a looper which I could use to sync it = with my Octatrack of with other gears.
THe looper should be able = to loop while slaved (because the Octatrack must be Master, that's a fa= ct, unfortunately).
Can the LP2 do that? Can it sync well to other devices or daw?
And do I remember well or it can work with batteries?
Because = I do not really need another stage looper, I need now a street looper with = batteries for when I will play in the streets with my friends...

Thanks

> Date: Sun, 4 = Nov 2012 21:36:41 -0800
> From: looppool@cruzio.com
> To: halimzainal@gmail.com
> CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: Re: Wha= t Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/samplers/computers

>
> eib halimski asked:
> > I've heard of 'm= idi clocking' that can sync multiple loopers but what
> > do = i know, haven't tried any of them. sorry i'm not of any help.
> > having 2 units of echoplex (or more i think) is a much easier opt= ion
> > but costs a bit more
>
>
> The new Lo= operalative LP-2 Mini Looper has robust Midi synchronization.
> With = two of them hooked up; whichever looper starts automatically
> becomes the master for the other
> and vice versa).
>
= > At a streetprice of $300 (USD), two of the units would probably much <= br>> cheaper than buying 2 used echoplexes.
>
> On top of t= hat, the fidelity is better, with creation of up to 8 loops
> (stored immediately on an SD card),
> addition of =E2=89=88 to t= he echoplexes 1/2 speed, 30 levels of undo, feedback
> (with automat= ic
> undo points set at every 15% reduction), and these additional ad= ded
> features:
>
> 1) Half Speed (Double Speed at half bandwid= th)
> 2) Quarter Speed (Quadruple Speed at quarter bandwidth - artifa= cty but
> very hip for special effects)
> 3) Retrigger (one sh= ot)
> 4) Retrigger (continuous)
> 5) Retrigger (random)
> 6) Rep= lace
> 7) Quantized Replace (equivalent to SUS =3D SUB in the echople= x or
> Q-Replace in the LP-1)
> in these potential time signat= ures: 4/4 (8ths, 16ths, triplet 8ths,
> triplet 16ths), 7/8, 9/8, 10/8 (5/4)
> and the addition of 1/64t= hs for glitch effects)
>
> My brother Bill has been triggering= other LP-2s, his LP-1 and
> simultaneously driving midi driven time=
> based effects (delays, modulations, panners, etc.) on his other effect= s
> pedals (M-9, etc.) with great effect.
>
> Rick Walk= er
>

--f46d04440094aabbc504cdbcac09-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 5 10:56:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 359D5183474; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 10:56:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_133370e4-d17e-43da-9a6b-40e8f9b3d427_" X-Originating-IP: [217.92.117.212] From: Sergio Girardi Sender: To: Subject: RE: What Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/samplers/computers Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 11:56:22 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,<50975069.9050406@cruzio.com>,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2012 10:56:23.0309 (UTC) FILETIME=[31E84BD0:01CDBB44] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119012 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 10:56:24 +0000 (UTC) --_133370e4-d17e-43da-9a6b-40e8f9b3d427_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ah=2C ops=2C sorry=2C I saw now that the one who was asking about a looper = able to sync with other devices is Jannis.Well=2C Eib=2C this midibox maste= rclock is a DIY=2C if you can solder=2C it is a cheap solution.There are ot= her three solutions which I know and which are much more expensive (expensi= ve as an Echoplex).Innerclock Systems: http://www.innerclocksystems.com/ind= ex.html they are made by an Australian guy named David who is quite nice an= d for example he is helping me with the Octatrack. The Octatrack has got a = looper=2C among other things=2C but its looper is tied to the Octatrack Tim= eStretch algorhythm so that the Octatrack must be Master in order to loop w= ell. While for example the Innerclock products need the daw -let's say Able= ton=2C in my case- to be Master=2C and the OT to be slave. So he is trying = to borrow an OT to make some experiments.Then there are the ACME products:= http://www.s-n-d.com/acme4e_b.html I was told by their German distributor = that they also have some problems with the Octatrack (I presume that for th= e same reason above explained). Then there is the Expert Sleepers solutions: http://www.expert-sleepers.co.= uk/But they are more for modular synths as far as I understood. So=2C I gave you 3 different expensive solutions which are know to work ver= y well in solving sync issues. :) Hope this helps. Sergio Date: Mon=2C 5 Nov 2012 18:09:01 +0800 Subject: Re: What Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/samplers/com= puters From: halimzainal@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com i believe this topic has been discussed before and some posted some kind of= a central clock device to sync between different brand of loopers which is= not possible (i think)back in 2010 i was hoping to sync between my dl4 and= echoplex. well the response i got was it is was not not possible. i hope something like this is already in the market so that we can set mast= er and slave looper. http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=3Dmidimast= erclock On Mon=2C Nov 5=2C 2012 at 6:02 PM=2C Sergio Girardi wrote: Hallo Rick=2C as far as I understood=2C Eib asked about a looper which can be synced with= other gears and/or daws.Anyway=2C this is also what I am intereste in. I s= till have here my Boomerang III but it is completely unable to sync with an= y other device at all. So I was thinking eventually to a looper which I could use to sync it with = my Octatrack of with other gears.THe looper should be able to loop while sl= aved (because the Octatrack must be Master=2C that's a fact=2C unfortunatel= y). Can the LP2 do that? Can it sync well to other devices or daw?And do I reme= mber well or it can work with batteries?Because I do not really need anothe= r stage looper=2C I need now a street looper with batteries for when I will= play in the streets with my friends... Thanks > Date: Sun=2C 4 Nov 2012 21:36:41 -0800 > From: looppool@cruzio.com > To: halimzainal@gmail.com > CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Re: What Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/sample= rs/computers >=20 > eib halimski asked: > > I've heard of 'midi clocking' that can sync multiple loopers but what=20 > > do i know=2C haven't tried any of them. sorry i'm not of any help.=20 > > having 2 units of echoplex (or more i think) is a much easier option=20 > > but costs a bit more >=20 >=20 > The new Looperalative LP-2 Mini Looper has robust Midi synchronization. > With two of them hooked up=3B whichever looper starts automatically=20 > becomes the master for the other > and vice versa). >=20 > At a streetprice of $300 (USD)=2C two of the units would probably much=20 > cheaper than buying 2 used echoplexes. >=20 > On top of that=2C the fidelity is better=2C with creation of up to 8 loop= s=20 > (stored immediately on an SD card)=2C > addition of =97 to the echoplexes 1/2 speed=2C 30 levels of undo=2C feedb= ack=20 > (with automatic > undo points set at every 15% reduction)=2C and these additional added=20 > features: >=20 > 1) Half Speed (Double Speed at half bandwidth) > 2) Quarter Speed (Quadruple Speed at quarter bandwidth - artifacty but=20 > very hip for special effects) > 3) Retrigger (one shot) > 4) Retrigger (continuous) > 5) Retrigger (random) > 6) Replace > 7) Quantized Replace (equivalent to SUS =3D SUB in the echoplex or=20 > Q-Replace in the LP-1) > in these potential time signatures: 4/4 (8ths=2C 16ths=2C triplet 8ths=2C= =20 > triplet 16ths)=2C 7/8=2C 9/8=2C 10/8 (5/4) > and the addition of 1/64ths for glitch effects) >=20 > My brother Bill has been triggering other LP-2s=2C his LP-1 and=20 > simultaneously driving midi driven time > based effects (delays=2C modulations=2C panners=2C etc.) on his other eff= ects=20 > pedals (M-9=2C etc.) with great effect. >=20 > Rick Walker >=20 =20 = --_133370e4-d17e-43da-9a6b-40e8f9b3d427_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ah=2C ops=2C sorry=2C I saw now that the one who was asking about a looper = able to sync with other devices is Jannis.
Well=2C Eib=2C this midibox = masterclock is a DIY=2C if you can solder=2C it is a cheap solution.
<= div>There are other three solutions which I know and which are much more ex= pensive (expensive as an Echoplex).
Innerclock Systems: =3Bhttp://www.innerclock= systems.com/index.html =3Bthey are made by an Australian guy named = David who is quite nice and for example he is helping me with the Octatrack= . The Octatrack has got a looper=2C among other things=2C but its looper is= tied to the Octatrack TimeStretch algorhythm so that the Octatrack must be= Master in order to loop well. While for example the Innerclock products ne= ed the daw -let's say Ableton=2C in my case- to be Master=2C and the OT to = be slave. So he is trying to borrow an  =3BOT to make some experiments.=
Then there are the ACME products: =3Bhttp://www.s-n-d.com/acme4e_b.html =3BI was= told by their German distributor that they also have some problems with th= e Octatrack (I presume that for the same reason above explained).
Then t= here is the Expert Sleepers solutions: =3Bhttp://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/
But they a= re more for modular synths as far as I understood.

So=2C I gave you 3 different expensive solutions which are know to work ve= ry well in solving sync issues. :)

Hope this helps= .

Sergio
<= /div>
Date: Mon=2C 5 Nov 2012 18:09:01 +0800
Subj= ect: Re: What Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/samplers/compute= rs
From: halimzainal@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.co= m

i believe this topic has been discussed before and some posted som= e kind of a central clock device to sync between different brand of loopers= which is not possible (i think)
back in 2010 i was hoping to sync betw= een my dl4 and echoplex. well the response i got was it is was not not poss= ible.

i hope something like this is already in the market so = that we can set master and slave looper. =3Bhttp://ww= w.midibox.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=3Dmidimasterclock


<= br>
On Mon=2C Nov 5=2C 2012 at 6:02 PM= =2C Sergio Girardi <=3Bsimpliflying@gmail.com>=3B wrote:
Hallo Rick=2C

as far as I understood=2C Eib asked about = a looper which can be synced with other gears and/or daws.
Anyway= =2C this is also what I am intereste in. I still have here my Boomerang III= but it is completely unable to sync with any other device at all.
So I was thinking eventually to a looper which I could use to sync it = with my Octatrack of with other gears.
THe looper should be able = to loop while slaved (because the Octatrack must be Master=2C that's a fact= =2C unfortunately).
Can the LP2 do that? Can it sync well to other devices or daw?
And do I remember well or it can work with batteries?
Because = I do not really need another stage looper=2C I need now a street looper wit= h batteries for when I will play in the streets with my friends...

Thanks

>=3B Date: Sun= =2C 4 Nov 2012 21:36:41 -0800
>=3B From: looppool@cruzio.com
>=3B To: halimzainal@gmail.com
>=3B CC: Loopers-D= elight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B Subject: Re: Re: What Looper to us= e for syncing with other loopers/samplers/computers

>=3B
>=3B eib halimski asked:
>=3B >=3B I've heard of 'm= idi clocking' that can sync multiple loopers but what
>=3B >=3B do = i know=2C haven't tried any of them. sorry i'm not of any help.
>=3B >=3B having 2 units of echoplex (or more i think) is a much easier= option
>=3B >=3B but costs a bit more
>=3B
>=3B
>= =3B The new Looperalative LP-2 Mini Looper has robust Midi synchronization.=
>=3B With two of them hooked up=3B whichever looper starts automatica= lly
>=3B becomes the master for the other
>=3B and vice versa).
>= =3B
>=3B At a streetprice of $300 (USD)=2C two of the units would pro= bably much
>=3B cheaper than buying 2 used echoplexes.
>=3B
= >=3B On top of that=2C the fidelity is better=2C with creation of up to 8= loops
>=3B (stored immediately on an SD card)=2C
>=3B addition of =97 to t= he echoplexes 1/2 speed=2C 30 levels of undo=2C feedback
>=3B (with a= utomatic
>=3B undo points set at every 15% reduction)=2C and these add= itional added
>=3B features:
>=3B
>=3B 1) Half Speed (Double Speed at half b= andwidth)
>=3B 2) Quarter Speed (Quadruple Speed at quarter bandwidth = - artifacty but
>=3B very hip for special effects)
>=3B 3) Retri= gger (one shot)
>=3B 4) Retrigger (continuous)
>=3B 5) Retrigger (random)
>=3B = 6) Replace
>=3B 7) Quantized Replace (equivalent to SUS =3D SUB in the= echoplex or
>=3B Q-Replace in the LP-1)
>=3B in these potential= time signatures: 4/4 (8ths=2C 16ths=2C triplet 8ths=2C
>=3B triplet 16ths)=2C 7/8=2C 9/8=2C 10/8 (5/4)
>=3B and the additio= n of 1/64ths for glitch effects)
>=3B
>=3B My brother Bill has b= een triggering other LP-2s=2C his LP-1 and
>=3B simultaneously drivin= g midi driven time
>=3B based effects (delays=2C modulations=2C panners=2C etc.) on his othe= r effects
>=3B pedals (M-9=2C etc.) with great effect.
>=3B
= >=3B Rick Walker
>=3B
=

= --_133370e4-d17e-43da-9a6b-40e8f9b3d427_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 5 11:13:19 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCC1C183478; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 11:13:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 827903756/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.181.177/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.181.177 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjcDAOmdl1BV0rWx/2dsb2JhbAANN4YXvBkEA4QxAQEBAwEjDwEFNQsGCwsYAgIFFgsCAgkDAgECAUUcAReHaaZ5bpIagSCQCoETA5tTjVs X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,714,1344207600"; d="scan'208";a="827903756" Message-ID: <50979F14.6070801@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 11:12:20 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/samplers/computers References: <50975069.9050406@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <50975069.9050406@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119013 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 11:13:17 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker wrote: > eib halimski asked: >> I've heard of 'midi clocking' that can sync multiple loopers but what >> do i know, haven't tried any of them. sorry i'm not of any help. >> having 2 units of echoplex (or more i think) is a much easier option >> but costs a bit more Hi Rick, tell us more 'bout the LP2 :-) I'm a bit surprised at your EDP comparison though. I guess it's not intentional, but what you say here reads as if the LP2 is like an EDP with a few addition features thrown in. EDP >> Complex bit of rack-mount kit with Menus that unlock features many of which are unavailable in *any* other looping device or software. LP2 >> Elegantly simple stomp box which combines the features which live loop artists most need/request with a couple 'off the wall' twists. The real advantage of the LP2 is that everything it does (apart from the multiple loops) is easily accessible without a learning curve. In this instance I think the Looperlative LP1 should be mentioned as an alternative. It achieves sync of up to 8 (stereo) loops without re-course to midi-sync.. ....and as we know, midi sync *isn't* anywhere near ideal due to the limits of the midi protocol. There's a real advantage to syncing loops if it can be done within one device, and the LP1, while neither cheap nor easy to find, is simply the best solution for multiple tracks. > The new Looperalative LP-2 Mini Looper has robust Midi synchronization. > With two of them hooked up; whichever looper starts automatically > becomes the master for the other > and vice versa). ...??? wow :-) midi sync does not usually work like that! (EDP does it by something called Brother Sync) Is that achieved using two midi cables? > > At a streetprice of $300 (USD), two of the units would probably much > cheaper than buying 2 used echoplexes. undoubtedly. Or maybe for Eib a single stomp box looper with 2 loops would be more cost effective? > > On top of that, the fidelity is better, >From your previous descriptions of what *your* EDP sounds like, I wonder if it is faulty. Perhaps needs reseating of the memory chips. EDP was good enough for Eberhard Weber to make an ECM album, ...I don't think it has the fidelity problems which you have mentioned in the past. >with creation of up to 8 loops > (stored immediately on an SD card), still at 12bit? or was that fixed in the latest upgrade? > addition of ≈ to the echoplexes 1/2 speed, 30 levels of undo, feedback > (with automatic > undo points set at every 15% reduction), and these additional added > features: the below are all features of the EDP apart from Quarter Speed and Random Re-Trigger > > 1) Half Speed (Double Speed at half bandwidth) > 2) Quarter Speed (Quadruple Speed at quarter bandwidth - artifacty but > very hip for special effects) > 3) Retrigger (one shot) > 4) Retrigger (continuous) > 5) Retrigger (random) > 6) Replace > 7) Quantized Replace (equivalent to SUS = SUB in the echoplex or > Q-Replace in the LP-1) > in these potential time signatures: 4/4 (8ths, 16ths, triplet 8ths, > triplet 16ths), 7/8, 9/8, 10/8 (5/4) > and the addition of 1/64ths for glitch effects) as I understand it you missed a couple ;-) for LP2 (and EDP) add 8) Stop/Start 9) Feedback control by expression pedal (at long last available in a stomp box!) for LP2 alone add 10) non-volatile loop memory for last 8 recorded loops andy butler > > > Rick Walker > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 5 11:14:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B4C1418347B; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 11:14:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 282029.95109.bm@omp1011.mail.ird.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1352114079; bh=UIGmBI/u4CqfNDb5fW1+NCptLnTPtDh5B7LzSkiawso=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IOTlcHxStO0MRa3VmNWqkXGkIczvUEYCNedRgC5rTtGLA/++HUd3baLMu+exXtAskLuojBNkzKOwwUCtn7GQLWb3Q5k17BU24ZpH6cbaujZ76MVRNKoCMBXwCq+NhtJzbJrydusERoYL6xUNGsUXDdHJ0G82iR+mPOmm7usbPs8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XyilOvQUtd9RfLCaC9jU063jP8xFaXRR8ECvcpeXqMme7p4uyF64gFgWg6dFy5Yb89Y71BD5US2a20F2vOvIuHmyf3LKNkXNQ/NaC8bvAGDk/M6txQKL6D89bAo6MwZy7RkyirOWAspZmc0TxWrWiJu8C5WOL3TEExHiHwr8Rn4=; X-YMail-OSG: XONiRmIVM1ncKqwL3Ha3XbLYTlHB3_7G6X1_OSk3KWg.8LE Upcw- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,aGVsbG8sCgpiYWNrIG9uIHRoZSBsaXN0IHdpdGggYSBuZXcgYWRkcmVzcy7CoAoKTG9va2luZyBpbnRvIHRoZSBFaWdlbmhhcnAgUGljbyB0byB1c2UgaXQgYXMgYSBNSURJIGNvbnRyb2xsZXIgZm9yIGFuIExQMSBsb29wZXIgYW5kIG90aGVyIE1JREkgc3ludGhzLiBBbnlvbmUgaGF2ZSBleHBlcmllbmNlIHVzaW5nIHRoZSBQaWNvIGFzIGEgTUlESSBjb250cm9sbGVyPwoKQW55IG90aGVyIHN1Z2dlc3Rpb25zIGZvciBhIGxpZ2h0IHdlYXIgb24geW91ciBib2R5IGNvbnRyb2xsZXIuIEkgYSBhIHNpbmdlciwBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.460 Message-ID: <1352114079.57930.YahooMailNeo@web132206.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 11:14:39 +0000 (GMT) From: Antony Hequet Reply-To: Antony Hequet Subject: Eigenharp Pico To: "loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-609368162-1019971774-1352114079=:57930" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119014 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 11:14:41 +0000 (UTC) ---609368162-1019971774-1352114079=:57930 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello,=0A=0Aback on the list with a new address.=A0=0A=0ALooking into the E= igenharp Pico to use it as a MIDI controller for an LP1 looper and other MI= DI synths. Anyone have experience using the Pico as a MIDI controller?=0A= =0AAny other suggestions for a light wear on your body controller. I a a si= nger, I need to move about as I do this looping thang.=0A=0ABest,=0A=0AAnto= ny Hequet=0Apoet composer ---609368162-1019971774-1352114079=:57930 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hell= o,

back on the list with a new a= ddress. 

= Looking into the Eigenharp Pico to use it as a MIDI controller for an LP1 l= ooper and other MIDI synths. Anyone have experience using the Pico as a MID= I controller?

Any other suggestions for a light wear on your body controller. I a a = singer, I need to move about as I do this looping thang.

Best,

Antony Hequet
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 13:32:31 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/samplers/computers References: ,<50975069.9050406@cruzio.com>,, In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_NyM7D.A.CYG.q_7lQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119015 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 13:32:26 +0000 (UTC) Sergio Girardi wrote: > Ah, ops, sorry, I saw now that the one who was asking about a looper > able to sync with other devices is Jannis. > Well, Eib, this midibox masterclock is a DIY, if you can solder, it is a > cheap solution. > Innerclock Systems: http://www.innerclocksystems.com/index.html t > ACME products: http://www.s-n-d.com/acme4e_b.html > Expert Sleepers solutions: http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ I don't see that these devices can help. Either one looper can output midi clock, and the other can receive, in which case you need only a midi cable. Or the above is not case, and there is no solution. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 5 13:48:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83E16183461; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 13:48:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_a9fa0e58-38af-4a16-8edf-81d9166d6ecb_" X-Originating-IP: [217.92.117.212] From: Sergio Girardi Sender: To: Subject: RE: What Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/samplers/computers Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 14:48:48 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <5097BFEF.5030904@tiscali.co.uk> References: ,<50975069.9050406@cruzio.com>,, ,<5097BFEF.5030904@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2012 13:48:48.0558 (UTC) FILETIME=[482804E0:01CDBB5C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119016 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 13:48:50 +0000 (UTC) --_a9fa0e58-38af-4a16-8edf-81d9166d6ecb_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It is a mistery for me too=2C Andy=2C but you just need a very quick google= research to find out how many people spent that money and is extremely hap= py of their purchase.If people have sync problems and they buy a 700/800 eu= ro sync device and it does not solve their problem I am sure the web would = be full of complains and posts about fraud etc.I unfortunately was not able= to understand exactly how do they do what they do.In innerclock system pag= e=2C you will find anyway=2C I think=2C quite a lot of info which you proba= bly will be more able than me in understanding.Then=2C once you understand= =2C I would be glad if you explain it to me!Even if=2C till David will not = confirm that the sync problems between Octatrack and Ableton can be solved = with his product=2C I will not buy it. Ser > Date: Mon=2C 5 Nov 2012 13:32:31 +0000 > From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: What Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/samplers/c= omputers >=20 > Sergio Girardi wrote: > > Ah=2C ops=2C sorry=2C I saw now that the one who was asking about a loo= per=20 > > able to sync with other devices is Jannis. > > Well=2C Eib=2C this midibox masterclock is a DIY=2C if you can solder= =2C it is a=20 > > cheap solution. > > Innerclock Systems: http://www.innerclocksystems.com/index.html t > > ACME products: http://www.s-n-d.com/acme4e_b.html > > Expert Sleepers solutions: http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ >=20 >=20 > I don't see that these devices can help. >=20 > Either one looper can output midi clock=2C and the other can receive=2C > in which case you need only a midi cable. >=20 > Or the above is not case=2C and there is no solution. >=20 >=20 > andy >=20 = --_a9fa0e58-38af-4a16-8edf-81d9166d6ecb_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It is a mistery for me too=2C Andy=2C but you just need a very quick google= research to find out how many people spent that money and is extremely hap= py of their purchase.
If people have sync problems and they buy a 700/8= 00 euro sync device and it does not solve their problem I am sure the web w= ould be full of complains and posts about fraud etc.
I unfortunat= ely was not able to understand exactly how do they do what they do.
In innerclock system page=2C you will find anyway=2C I think=2C quite a = lot of info which you probably will be more able than me in understanding.<= /div>
Then=2C once you understand=2C I would be glad if you explain it = to me!
Even if=2C till David will not confirm that the sync probl= ems between Octatrack and Ableton can be solved with his product=2C I will = not buy it.

Ser
>=3B Date: Mon=2C 5 Nov 2012 13:32:31 +0000
>=3B From: akbutler@tis= cali.co.uk
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B Subj= ect: Re: What Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/samplers/compute= rs
>=3B
>=3B Sergio Girardi wrote:
>=3B >=3B Ah=2C ops=2C= sorry=2C I saw now that the one who was asking about a looper
>=3B &= gt=3B able to sync with other devices is Jannis.
>=3B >=3B Well=2C E= ib=2C this midibox masterclock is a DIY=2C if you can solder=2C it is a >=3B >=3B cheap solution.
>=3B >=3B Innerclock Systems: http://= www.innerclocksystems.com/index.html t
>=3B >=3B ACME products: http= ://www.s-n-d.com/acme4e_b.html
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= --_a9fa0e58-38af-4a16-8edf-81d9166d6ecb_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 5 13:55:18 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F6EB183466; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 13:55:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=2VJ6kG/ZmbL8bwO+2pQPcAYhzkuJE7FC/Ic1ImnvNys=; b=Lq6Jud6JpjvntRZHDaeYmI09Nas3+8x9/kirmweEiswz5gjlwtlXom7DOQGCPV2SSa eXrkF2i96zITS9DCgb6DtNSo6UL0lHT+2m0ZnEnJwGRVTw2g6ky6sFCY0gTShRHroyG3 hHZORJWOk46Ot5/qIhCiZ7y6P71XYn9Isof1cGqRJiIPyUIIwOjaWBfnQFyNOZXYM+jQ 8ore0SDhQ08nh92nDFZDD1S15p0eSntxhpTEuYnaToIlh3JfY8QQxJ/Wt0RbN+f/53jA 6jak5kFF5NDaZFzDZmNOs8cEmxazLgCoPHMdvznsZEJxVX076STvF/E+W5kIQCN544OG 0xqA== From: philip Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_6070ECDE-CBC0-47D1-A18C-409052DF6AE5" Subject: Re: What Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/samplers/computers Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 22:55:00 +0900 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: ,<50975069.9050406@cruzio.com>,, ,<5097BFEF.5030904@tiscali.co.uk> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119017 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 13:55:18 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_6070ECDE-CBC0-47D1-A18C-409052DF6AE5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I've heard a lot about great things about Innerclock, too. I'm thinking = about taking the plunge to sync my MIDI and DIN stuff up. David has = joined several discussions on the Electronic Music forum on Gearslutz. A = lot of people over there swear by them--Expert Sleepers seems to have a = few problems but is good for some situations. You may want to read through some of the threads over there. Lots of OT = users over there, too. On Nov 5, 2012, at 10:48 PM, Sergio Girardi wrote: > It is a mistery for me too, Andy, but you just need a very quick = google research to find out how many people spent that money and is = extremely happy of their purchase. > If people have sync problems and they buy a 700/800 euro sync device = and it does not solve their problem I am sure the web would be full of = complains and posts about fraud etc. > I unfortunately was not able to understand exactly how do they do what = they do. > In innerclock system page, you will find anyway, I think, quite a lot = of info which you probably will be more able than me in understanding. > Then, once you understand, I would be glad if you explain it to me! > Even if, till David will not confirm that the sync problems between = Octatrack and Ableton can be solved with his product, I will not buy it. >=20 > Ser > > Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 13:32:31 +0000 > > From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: What Looper to use for syncing with other = loopers/samplers/computers > >=20 > > Sergio Girardi wrote: > > > Ah, ops, sorry, I saw now that the one who was asking about a = looper=20 > > > able to sync with other devices is Jannis. > > > Well, Eib, this midibox masterclock is a DIY, if you can solder, = it is a=20 > > > cheap solution. > > > Innerclock Systems: http://www.innerclocksystems.com/index.html t > > > ACME products: http://www.s-n-d.com/acme4e_b.html > > > Expert Sleepers solutions: http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ > >=20 > >=20 > > I don't see that these devices can help. > >=20 > > Either one looper can output midi clock, and the other can receive, > > in which case you need only a midi cable. > >=20 > > Or the above is not case, and there is no solution. > >=20 > >=20 > > andy > > --Apple-Mail=_6070ECDE-CBC0-47D1-A18C-409052DF6AE5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 I've heard a lot about great things about = Innerclock, too. I'm thinking about taking the plunge to sync my MIDI = and DIN stuff up. David has joined several discussions on the Electronic = Music forum on Gearslutz. A lot of people over there swear by = them--Expert Sleepers seems to have a few problems but is good for some = situations.

You may want to read through some of the = threads over there. Lots of OT users over there, = too.




On Nov = 5, 2012, at 10:48 PM, Sergio Girardi wrote:

It is a mistery for me too, Andy, but you just need a = very quick google research to find out how many people spent that money = and is extremely happy of their purchase.
If people have sync = problems and they buy a 700/800 euro sync device and it does not solve = their problem I am sure the web would be full of complains and posts = about fraud etc.
I unfortunately was not able to understand = exactly how do they do what they do.
In innerclock system = page, you will find anyway, I think, quite a lot of info which you = probably will be more able than me in understanding.
Then, = once you understand, I would be glad if you explain it to = me!
Even if, till David will not confirm that the sync = problems between Octatrack and Ableton can be solved with his product, I = will not buy it.

Ser
> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 13:32:31 = +0000
> From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk
> = To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
> Subject: Re: What Looper to use for syncing = with other loopers/samplers/computers
> 
> Sergio Girardi = wrote:
> > Ah, ops, sorry, I saw now that the one who was = asking about a looper 
> > able to sync = with other devices is Jannis.
> > Well, Eib, this midibox = masterclock is a DIY, if you can solder, it is a 
> > cheap = solution.
> > Innerclock Systems: http://www.innerclock= systems.com/index.html t
> > ACME products: http://www.s-n-d.com/acme4e_b.= html
> > Expert Sleepers solutions: http://www.expert-sleepers.co.u= k/
> 
> 
> I don't see that = these devices can help.
> 
> Either one looper = can output midi clock, and the other can receive,
> in which case = you need only a midi cable.
> 
> Or the above is = not case, and there is no solution.
> 
> 
> = andy
>

= --Apple-Mail=_6070ECDE-CBC0-47D1-A18C-409052DF6AE5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 5 14:03:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 573D9183474; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 14:03:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 877118.35857.bm@omp1030.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1352124199; bh=fg2ULxXsuJYkUxjKv/x2kqP5rtBY9gi6cP35FEP3pVU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=0WBfKmIhr5wQg8770zkgR3oG1bU95zImWbWquD+NkNTd3yf3sxGeTmMJtvZJIuD3WiMywvo+falcEVwCrkQ0Z6eWrhEZOocsB8h62OA5Pu7ogQ46nYsmCtFUivvKCK7lbkr1rHGBHZgIPeFuSwPJJmUOnea1+hHOLlHY+yivhWQ= X-YMail-OSG: ek69ZZ8VM1m5ojEIs7CGOtPu4opB0DvM27gGcbl1Ocfn_A_ 8FrClA_naJf2Y8_5KgTgf963r_Mjm4ZpxodckXgRm6ubrSTLdWsZTZI_46tv UIKPA3q.O2p03Gox1wNBU1bLWG5aQRRsNQk0M7e_ERv0gaBAarPrkuGgTNeG 7QtC3a4VmZWLDVqBnKAXHVKZbskiTp_yVQXhjurMw0ySHetOSQc4_KerfKUK 40c6Dm3alxzaQo14FgWHGjI.XZg.GC9ydZYGw8KQ1oFvBwIdcfGsPMoVT_VZ kJp_wHwTlDF3sm62u1kESgdSBWPAC3D1yZTsQLu5lBOioE_eq7pP.4On4OYz M0fJF24JvrKOv.JpPgU17j0qo1araCbp6jXfKHk2r1q7Usl59uiLezkePsy2 lxpjThex3zn2q_XKZWYDrNRKHRBo1jeMSHLCtPvKNOMaVYdKhG59blHW2f4M kDiPJ6.br.FXJKId0zShlvwpmxi8IBu7E42oZNx2gWCwhzTlHSUWsQE5n0sH WNmshmyrvBH33lwq7J4iDzV1Pu8n7RsTHJagvBfz5t4r_I2UYQxycTqviVeQ .98m1UV9HL_bbi3Xspi2niaFnB4ea0s9tnlX8hLVHP1u8Twtvb4bpJS4Hg0w iAzm6ntTBPj5t3KjfDJO_csFAvQZblnM1T7_Ev5lQ3MhMJNbOh6L85Hnfn_9 fdpa3 X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,ClBSRUFDSCBJVCwgUklDSyEKSSBXQU5UIEFOIExQLTIhIApXQU5UIFdBTlQgV0FOVCBXQU5UIQpCVVQgSSdMTCBIQVZFIFRPIFNFTEwgT0ZGIFNUVUZGIChaT09NIERFTEFZPyBGUkFMSU4gUElDS1VQUz8pIFRPIE1BS0UgSVQgSEFQUEVOLCBCRUNBVVNFIEZJTkFOQ0lBTExZIEkgQU0gU08gRkFSIEJFWU9ORCBTQ1JFV0VEIFRIQVQgVEhFIExJR0hUIEZST00gU0NSRVdFRCBXSUxMIFRBS0UgWUVBUlMgVE8gUkVBQ0ggTUUgKExPTCkuCgpUaW0gTXVuZ2VuYXN0CkVkaXRvci9Xcml0ZXIvUHJvb2ZyZWFkZXI6IHcBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.460 Message-ID: <1352124198.37054.YahooMailClassic@web84508.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 06:03:18 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Mungenast Subject: Re: Re: What Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/samplers/computers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <50975069.9050406@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119018 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 14:03:22 +0000 (UTC) =0APREACH IT, RICK!=0AI WANT AN LP-2! =0AWANT WANT WANT WANT!=0ABUT I'LL HA= VE TO SELL OFF STUFF (ZOOM DELAY? FRALIN PICKUPS?) TO MAKE IT HAPPEN, BECAU= SE FINANCIALLY I AM SO FAR BEYOND SCREWED THAT THE LIGHT FROM SCREWED WILL = TAKE YEARS TO REACH ME (LOL).=0A=0ATim Mungenast=0AEditor/Writer/Proofreade= r: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast=0AGuitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reve= rbnation.com/timmungenast=0A=0A=0A--- On Mon, 11/5/12, Rick Walker wrote:=0A=0A> From: Rick Walker =0A> Sub= ject: Re: Re: What Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/samplers/co= mputers=0A> To: "eib halimski" =0A> Cc: Loopers-Deli= ght@loopers-delight.com=0A> Date: Monday, November 5, 2012, 12:36 AM=0A> ei= b halimski asked:=0A> > I've heard of 'midi clocking' that can sync multipl= e=0A> loopers but what do i know, haven't tried any of them. sorry=0A> i'm = not of any help. having 2 units of echoplex (or more i=0A> think) is a much= easier option but costs a bit more=0A> =0A> =0A> The new Looperalative LP-= 2 Mini Looper has robust Midi=0A> synchronization.=0A> With two of them hoo= ked up; whichever looper starts=0A> automatically becomes the master for th= e other=0A> and vice versa).=0A> =0A> At a streetprice of $300 (USD), two o= f the units would=0A> probably much cheaper than buying 2 used echoplexes.= =0A> =0A> On top of that, the fidelity is better, with creation of up=0A> t= o 8 loops (stored immediately on an SD card),=0A> addition of =E2=89=88 to = the echoplexes 1/2 speed, 30 levels of=0A> undo, feedback (with automatic= =0A> undo points set at every 15% reduction), and these=0A> additional adde= d features:=0A> =0A> 1) Half Speed (Double Speed at half bandwidth)=0A> 2) = Quarter Speed (Quadruple Speed at quarter bandwidth -=0A> artifacty but ver= y hip for special effects)=0A> 3) Retrigger (one shot)=0A> 4) Retrigger (co= ntinuous)=0A> 5) Retrigger (random)=0A> 6) Replace=0A> 7) Quantized Replace= (equivalent to SUS =3D SUB in the=0A> echoplex or Q-Replace in the LP-1)= =0A> in these potential time signatures: 4/4 (8ths, 16ths,=0A> triplet 8ths= , triplet 16ths), 7/8, 9/8, 10/8 (5/4)=0A> and the addition of 1/64ths for = glitch effects)=0A> =0A> My brother Bill has been triggering other LP-2s, h= is LP-1=0A> and simultaneously driving midi driven time=0A> based effects (= delays, modulations, panners, etc.) on his=0A> other effects pedals (M-9, e= tc.) with great effect.=0A> =0A> Rick Walker=0A> =0A> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 5 14:05:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A7477183477; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 14:05:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=9aPwEcoCPZiMZNVfIOcVe1T2ONe0yBMjy5GJjAMQeyI=; b=z43/VHwcHi3+n5cjXsyyXKhxGzVZYs8DQ6hKC+aHNqWyHWCzJS083Q27qn5fvjhpqE 4UqUP+ojiuKhSpl59rPsu8CL0Wkt/Zmh/iRtvnpxoiod9lmvZLe0UN8vYsTcZ131iKoR e7wZxuav90IJcy+xUbLTlzCyM4lgbhR3tloAPIXnJG2DHqbOpM3uXfPguhAAlN8m+t+g bfPIsjzRi5NwKskyjPRjpykCioq4NB+un/ktum54EEhIhzAnR/mJDdxeWhv7X8UhILGK dfnTc4dDszdXYVsVPQnkN8bWP3iUX96qH77gijl5Co8y5CFoIcoui6hqR5Of/vTppksw fLmA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <50975069.9050406@cruzio.com> <5097BFEF.5030904@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 15:04:46 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: hJzrnYN7L51HQ594A9SGhuPlU4E Message-ID: Subject: Re: What Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/samplers/computers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b621ee2fa68ad04cdbff80a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119019 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 14:05:07 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b621ee2fa68ad04cdbff80a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 But Sergio, people are wanting to synch lots more together than just Loopers... synths, effects and loopers... Andys point is that if the Looper is able to synch, then it will have a midi in out port in which case you dont need a external box, just a cable... For connecting between a laptop and a hardware looper, a midi interface is needed for the laptop, and a cable... > > On Nov 5, 2012, at 10:48 PM, Sergio Girardi wrote: > > It is a mistery for me too, Andy, but you just need a very quick google > research to find out how many people spent that money and is extremely > happy of their purchase. > If people have sync problems and they buy a 700/800 euro sync device and > it does not solve their problem I am sure the web would be full of > complains and posts about fraud etc. > I unfortunately was not able to understand exactly how do they do what > they do. > In innerclock system page, you will find anyway, I think, quite a lot of > info which you probably will be more able than me in understanding. > Then, once you understand, I would be glad if you explain it to me! > Even if, till David will not confirm that the sync problems between > Octatrack and Ableton can be solved with his product, I will not buy it. > > Ser > > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b621ee2fa68ad04cdbff80a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable But Sergio, people are wanting to synch lots more together than just Looper= s... synths, effects and loopers... Andys point is that if the Looper is ab= le to synch, then it will have a midi in out port in which case you dont ne= ed a external box, just a cable... For connecting between a laptop and a ha= rdware looper, a midi interface is needed for the laptop, and a cable...

On N= ov 5, 2012, at 10:48 PM, Sergio Girardi wrote:

It is a mistery for me too, Andy, but you just need a very= quick google research to find out how many people spent that money and is = extremely happy of their purchase.
If people have sync problems and the= y buy a 700/800 euro sync device and it does not solve their problem I am s= ure the web would be full of complains and posts about fraud etc.
I unfortunately was not able to understand exactly how do they do what= they do.
In innerclock system page, you will find anyway, I thin= k, quite a lot of info which you probably will be more able than me in unde= rstanding.
Then, once you understand, I would be glad if you explain it to me!
Even if, till David will not confirm that the sync problems between= Octatrack and Ableton can be solved with his product, I will not buy it.

Ser




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--047d7b621ee2fa68ad04cdbff80a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 5 14:45:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 365CA183476; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 14:45:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_aa607da3-f303-4429-9fe6-7d68caf94fca_" X-Originating-IP: [217.92.117.212] From: Sergio Girardi Sender: To: Subject: RE: What Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/samplers/computers Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 15:45:32 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,<50975069.9050406@cruzio.com> ,, <5097BFEF.5030904@tiscali.co.uk>, , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2012 14:45:33.0277 (UTC) FILETIME=[3586E8D0:01CDBB64] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119020 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 14:45:34 +0000 (UTC) --_aa607da3-f303-4429-9fe6-7d68caf94fca_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I do not know Mark=2C but I think it is not like that. But I would not swea= r on my sould either=2C because as I said I still am not sure of how these = syncing devices work.I can just tell you that they are used=2C as far as I = know=2C especially to sync hardware with software=2C which is=2C notoriousl= y=2C a pain in the A.Then also for modular synths with midi gears and with = software.WHat I am not sure about is if they are used also to sync two midi= hardware capables of sending/receiving midi clock.But in my understanding = (which could be wrong) they are able to improve dramatically the syncing pe= rformances of any device (considering that apparently often even a device c= apable of midi sync is not alway capable of doing that 100% perfectly).So= =2C for what concern hardware with daw=2C which was also part of the origin= al question of the thread starter=2C these devices are optimal as far as I = know.Up to you guys (who have more experience and knowledge than me) the ta= sk to research further and read in Innerclock site or write to David to hav= e the ideas clearer about what these product can do for the syncing between= midi hardware. From: mark@markfrancombe.com Date: Mon=2C 5 Nov 2012 15:04:46 +0100 Subject: Re: What Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/samplers/com= puters To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com But Sergio=2C people are wanting to synch lots more together than just Loop= ers... synths=2C effects and loopers... Andys point is that if the Looper i= s able to synch=2C then it will have a midi in out port in which case you d= ont need a external box=2C just a cable... For connecting between a laptop = and a hardware looper=2C a midi interface is needed for the laptop=2C and a= cable...=20 On Nov 5=2C 2012=2C at 10:48 PM=2C Sergio Girardi wrote: It is a mistery for me too=2C Andy=2C but you just need a very quick google= research to find out how many people spent that money and is extremely hap= py of their purchase.If people have sync problems and they buy a 700/800 eu= ro sync device and it does not solve their problem I am sure the web would = be full of complains and posts about fraud etc. I unfortunately was not able to understand exactly how do they do what they= do.In innerclock system page=2C you will find anyway=2C I think=2C quite a= lot of info which you probably will be more able than me in understanding. Then=2C once you understand=2C I would be glad if you explain it to me!Even= if=2C till David will not confirm that the sync problems between Octatrack= and Ableton can be solved with his product=2C I will not buy it. Ser --=20 Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.comwww.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ = --_aa607da3-f303-4429-9fe6-7d68caf94fca_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I do not know Mark=2C but I think it is not like that. But I would not swea= r on my sould either=2C because as I said I still am not sure of how these = syncing devices work.
I can just tell you that they are used=2C as far = as I know=2C especially to sync hardware with software=2C which is=2C notor= iously=2C a pain in the A.
Then also for modular synths with midi= gears and with software.
WHat I am not sure about is if they are= used also to sync two midi hardware capables of sending/receiving midi clo= ck.
But in my understanding (which could be wrong) they are able = to improve dramatically the syncing performances of any device (considering= that apparently often even a device capable of midi sync is not alway capa= ble of doing that 100% perfectly).
So=2C for what concern hardwar= e with daw=2C which was also part of the original question of the thread st= arter=2C these devices are optimal as far as I know.
Up to you gu= ys (who have more experience and knowledge than me) the task to research fu= rther and read in Innerclock site or write to David to have the ideas clear= er about what these product can do for the syncing between midi hardware.

From: mark@markfrancombe.com
Date: Mon=2C 5 Nov 2012 15:04:46 +0100=
Subject: Re: What Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/samplers= /computers
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

But Sergio=2C = people are wanting to synch lots more together than just Loopers... synths= =2C effects and loopers... Andys point is that if the Looper is able to syn= ch=2C then it will have a midi in out port in which case you dont need a ex= ternal box=2C just a cable... For connecting between a laptop and a hardwar= e looper=2C a midi interface is needed for the laptop=2C and a cable...

On Nov 5=2C 20= 12=2C at 10:48 PM=2C Sergio Girardi wrote:

It is a mistery for me too=2C Andy=2C but you just need a = very quick google research to find out how many people spent that money and= is extremely happy of their purchase.
If people have sync problems and= they buy a 700/800 euro sync device and it does not solve their problem I = am sure the web would be full of complains and posts about fraud etc.
I unfortunately was not able to understand exactly how do they do what= they do.
In innerclock system page=2C you will find anyway=2C I = think=2C quite a lot of info which you probably will be more able than me i= n understanding.
Then=2C once you understand=2C I would be glad if you explain it to me= !
Even if=2C till David will not confirm that the sync problems b= etween Octatrack and Ableton can be solved with his product=2C I will not b= uy it.

Ser




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= --_aa607da3-f303-4429-9fe6-7d68caf94fca_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 5 14:49:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9B1E183466; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 14:49:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_1cf168f1-878b-4e33-b964-84fabf0aa196_" X-Originating-IP: [217.92.117.212] From: Sergio Girardi Sender: To: Subject: RE: What Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/samplers/computers Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 15:49:16 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,<50975069.9050406@cruzio.com>,, ,<5097BFEF.5030904@tiscali.co.uk> , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2012 14:49:18.0625 (UTC) FILETIME=[BBD84910:01CDBB64] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119021 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 14:49:19 +0000 (UTC) --_1cf168f1-878b-4e33-b964-84fabf0aa196_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes=2C I have asked there too in Gearslutz but got no answer.Actually I thi= nk it is there that I have discovered about Innerclock Systems.David is als= o in the Elektron Forums :)As far as I know there is absolutely no solution= to the Octatrack/Ableton sync issues=2C because both need to be Master (at= least the OT needs that when used as a looper) and you cannot have two Mas= ters :)Somebody told me that the last release of Ableton 8 was much better = in syncing. ANd I suppose the 9 is better too. But no idea.What I know is t= hat Innerclock can solve Ableton sync problems but only if Ableton is Maste= r.David promised me to test with the OT to see what can be done. Ser From: philip.ojc@gmail.com Subject: Re: What Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/samplers/com= puters Date: Mon=2C 5 Nov 2012 22:55:00 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com I've heard a lot about great things about Innerclock=2C too. I'm thinking a= bout taking the plunge to sync my MIDI and DIN stuff up. David has joined s= everal discussions on the Electronic Music forum on Gearslutz. A lot of peo= ple over there swear by them--Expert Sleepers seems to have a few problems = but is good for some situations. You may want to read through some of the threads over there. Lots of OT use= rs over there=2C too. On Nov 5=2C 2012=2C at 10:48 PM=2C Sergio Girardi wrote:It is a mistery for= me too=2C Andy=2C but you just need a very quick google research to find o= ut how many people spent that money and is extremely happy of their purchas= e.If people have sync problems and they buy a 700/800 euro sync device and = it does not solve their problem I am sure the web would be full of complain= s and posts about fraud etc.I unfortunately was not able to understand exac= tly how do they do what they do.In innerclock system page=2C you will find = anyway=2C I think=2C quite a lot of info which you probably will be more ab= le than me in understanding.Then=2C once you understand=2C I would be glad = if you explain it to me!Even if=2C till David will not confirm that the syn= c problems between Octatrack and Ableton can be solved with his product=2C = I will not buy it. Ser > Date: Mon=2C 5 Nov 2012 13:32:31 +0000 > From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: What Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/samplers/c= omputers >=20 > Sergio Girardi wrote: > > Ah=2C ops=2C sorry=2C I saw now that the one who was asking about a loo= per=20 > > able to sync with other devices is Jannis. > > Well=2C Eib=2C this midibox masterclock is a DIY=2C if you can solder= =2C it is a=20 > > cheap solution. > > Innerclock Systems: http://www.innerclocksystems.com/index.html t > > ACME products: http://www.s-n-d.com/acme4e_b.html > > Expert Sleepers solutions: http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ >=20 >=20 > I don't see that these devices can help. >=20 > Either one looper can output midi clock=2C and the other can receive=2C > in which case you need only a midi cable. >=20 > Or the above is not case=2C and there is no solution. >=20 >=20 > andy > = --_1cf168f1-878b-4e33-b964-84fabf0aa196_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes=2C I have asked there too in Gearslutz but got no answer.
Actually = I think it is there that I have discovered about Innerclock Systems.
<= div>David is also in the Elektron Forums :)
As far as I know ther= e is absolutely no solution to the Octatrack/Ableton sync issues=2C because= both need to be Master (at least the OT needs that when used as a looper) = and you cannot have two Masters :)
Somebody told me that the last= release of Ableton 8 was much better in syncing. ANd I suppose the 9 is be= tter too. But no idea.
What I know is that Innerclock can solve A= bleton sync problems but only if Ableton is Master.
David promise= d me to test with the OT to see what can be done.

Ser
From: philip= .ojc@gmail.com
Subject: Re: What Looper to use for syncing with other lo= opers/samplers/computers
Date: Mon=2C 5 Nov 2012 22:55:00 +0900
To: L= oopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

I've heard a lot about great thin= gs about Innerclock=2C too. I'm thinking about taking the plunge to sync my= MIDI and DIN stuff up. David has joined several discussions on the Electro= nic Music forum on Gearslutz. A lot of people over there swear by them--Exp= ert Sleepers seems to have a few problems but is good for some situations.<= div>
You may want to read through some of the threads over th= ere. Lots of OT users over there=2C too.



On Nov 5=2C 2012=2C at 10:48 PM=2C Sergio Girard= i wrote:

It is a mister= y for me too=2C Andy=2C but you just need a very quick google research to f= ind out how many people spent that money and is extremely happy of their pu= rchase.
If people have sync problems and they buy a 700/800 euro sync d= evice and it does not solve their problem I am sure the web would be full o= f complains and posts about fraud etc.
I unfortunately was not ab= le to understand exactly how do they do what they do.
In innerclo= ck system page=2C you will find anyway=2C I think=2C quite a lot of info wh= ich you probably will be more able than me in understanding.
Then= =2C once you understand=2C I would be glad if you explain it to me!
Even if=2C till David will not confirm that the sync problems between Oc= tatrack and Ableton can be solved with his product=2C I will not buy it.

Ser
>=3B Dat= e: Mon=2C 5 Nov 2012 13:32:31 +0000
>=3B From: =3Ba= kbutler@tiscali.co.uk
>=3B To: =3B= Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B Subject: Re: What Looper = to use for syncing with other loopers/samplers/computers
>=3B =3B
>=3B Sergio Girardi wr= ote:
>=3B >=3B Ah=2C ops=2C sorry=2C I saw now that the one who was = asking about a looper =3B
>=3B >=3B able to sync with other devices is Jannis.
>=3B &g= t=3B Well=2C Eib=2C this midibox masterclock is a DIY=2C if you can solder= =2C it is a =3B
>= =3B >=3B cheap solution.
>=3B >=3B Innerclock Systems: http://www.i= nnerclocksystems.com/index.html t
>=3B >=3B ACME products: http://www.s-n-= d.com/acme4e_b.html
>=3B >=3B Expert Sleepers solutions: http://www.expert-= sleepers.co.uk/
>=3B = =3B
>=3B =3B
>=3B I don't see that these devices can help.
>=3B =3B
>=3B Either one looper c= an output midi clock=2C and the other can receive=2C
>=3B in which cas= e you need only a midi cable.
>=3B =3B
>=3B Or the above is not case=2C and there is no = solution.
>=3B =3B=
>=3B =3B
>= =3B andy
>=3B

= --_1cf168f1-878b-4e33-b964-84fabf0aa196_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 5 15:00:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E335B183476; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 15:00:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 815090486/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.181.177/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.181.177 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhIEAHHTl1BV0rWx/2dsb2JhbAANN8IqAQMBAoQvAQEBBDgREBABHwsHEQklDwJGGQMBiBGnHZMrjAGDF4MlA5cXhDyFXod9 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,715,1344207600"; d="scan'208";a="815090486" Message-ID: <5097D48C.20007@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 15:00:28 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/samplers/computers References: <50975069.9050406@cruzio.com> <5097BFEF.5030904@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119022 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 15:00:21 +0000 (UTC) That's right, I have midi synced loopers running here, with just a midi cable. That's how they are designed to sync. Looping devices need sample accurate timing for the audio (unlike drum machines ), so generally they have a pretty good midi-clock output in terms of timing. andy mark francombe wrote: > But Sergio, people are wanting to synch lots more together than just > Loopers... synths, effects and loopers... Andys point is that if the > Looper is able to synch, then it will have a midi in out port in which > case you dont need a external box, just a cable... For connecting > between a laptop and a hardware looper, a midi interface is needed for > the laptop, and a cable... > > > On Nov 5, 2012, at 10:48 PM, Sergio Girardi wrote: > >> It is a mistery for me too, Andy, but you just need a very quick >> google research to find out how many people spent that money and >> is extremely happy of their purchase. >> If people have sync problems and they buy a 700/800 euro sync >> device and it does not solve their problem I am sure the web would >> be full of complains and posts about fraud etc. >> I unfortunately was not able to understand exactly how do they do >> what they do. >> In innerclock system page, you will find anyway, I think, quite a >> lot of info which you probably will be more able than me in >> understanding. >> Then, once you understand, I would be glad if you explain it to me! >> Even if, till David will not confirm that the sync problems >> between Octatrack and Ableton can be solved with his product, I >> will not buy it. >> >> Ser > > > > > -- > /_Mark Francombe_/ > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 5 20:12:33 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6A3E18345B; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 20:12:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <50981DAB.9060506@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 14:12:27 -0600 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: eib halimski CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: What Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/samplers/computers References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119023 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 20:12:33 +0000 (UTC) On 11/5/12 1:53 AM, eib halimski wrote: > Hi Rick, > been awhile old friend :) how's it been?. i hope i can try those LP1 > and LP2 units. the quarter speed sounds irresistable :) Yeah, Halim, I'm getting some wicked cool effects using it. If you haven't heard this, check out this recording (and the accompanying video I madewith an iPhone) I made the very first day I had it. I recorded two 7 minuteimprovs that were NOT synced and then realized that my timing was pretty accurate so I justpanned them hard left and right and played on a fretless Strat with a Harmonic capo on it at the 12th fret (so that the instrument defaulted to the scalar harp tuning that I had tuned the instrument to). I start utilizing the quarter speed effect about 3/4 of the way through the piece. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3T74R4m7jo&list=UU04qO6rN2FCTqc8oMGWVCcQ&index=7&feature=plcp From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 5 20:18:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A3DF183464; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 20:18:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <50981F17.9010902@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 14:18:31 -0600 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sergio Girardi CC: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RE: What Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/samplers/computers References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5xNAgB.A.9lC.b8BmQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119024 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 20:18:36 +0000 (UTC) On 11/5/12 4:02 AM, Sergio Girardi wrote: > So I was thinking eventually to a looper which I could use to sync it > with my Octatrack of with other gears. > THe looper should be able to loop while slaved (because the Octatrack > must be Master, that's a fact, unfortunately). > Can the LP2 do that? Can it sync well to other devices or daw? > And do I remember well or it can work with batteries? > Because I do not really need another stage looper, I need now a street > looper with batteries for when I will play in the streets with my > friends... Hi Sergio, The LP-2 syncs well do other time based devices (digital delays, modulation effects, panners, etc.). I know because both my brother and myself have been utilizing it a lot in this way. I still don't have specific knowledge of whether it syncs specifically to an Octatrack or a software based DAW, but I don't see why it wouldn't. It's just spitting and receiving midi clock and robustly, at that. Regarding batteries, the LP-2 is very hip in that it takes 6 AA batteries which give it an amazing 12 hours of looping time; vastly more most comparable units. This not only adds 'street time' but AA batteries are considerably cheaper than 9 volt batteries if purchased in bulk (at least this is true here in the US). Where are you located, Sergio? I'd love to hear your music and invite you to come perform at next year's live looping festival (the Y2K13 International Live Looping Festival which will be held in Northern California (always the 3rd weekend of October) and several places in Europe, the UK and Asia next summer) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 6 04:22:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D7A2183465; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 04:22:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=sdcvf+M/eMS4BJA9uW6U6i3tUUj03NBY5iGvdmPsfis=; b=YqSOuQyL4Hi+Ewor3C4UBtvPZ8bP9LayLCZOr0EoHC68/xQizp6M638bPKsbXC2w7k JWBSr/KlS6sbB8H1nm5NA/53tFzag1yGV+CWsHWYMU+pmypC9sRkIUbLCLyJS0zrdjnc IuOujxud6ajxTtB8pxZaIycXnER2r3ST1Kmka6io635IpcfjfV7W93fxxqqSJsn9M2Cc +tlIzjAu32e3WUnLXUleIMi6KiS5SyPtotLD46OkuZZxGxtQsk9lNJ8hzi2haPwlUUHp 3n5gQYIRj6G7FBnFJAkT9wPm1R/gMe6aHiI+LiUo+/2ZzNqGAdHgl59rCskMLyPWZDYA d2dA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 20:22:14 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: New video posted From: "kay'lon rushing" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d626575bb8ea04cdcbf2b6 Resent-Message-ID: <8mLd-B.A.idG.4BJmQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119025 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 04:22:16 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d626575bb8ea04cdcbf2b6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCrJbPaEfQQ&list=UUUFLTkt0Psujhz7lliVSYVw&index=1&feature=plcp Just posted this piece yesterday. 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--0016e6d626575bb8ea04cdcbf2b6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 6 04:55:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3EA22183463; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 04:55:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 04:55:04 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 22:53:35 -0500 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Video performance, Doctor T with Dave Bryant, Michael Bloom, Tsuyoshi Honjo Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com, MaiyimBaron@JapaneseInterpreter.com Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <6ARwAD.A.fwG.ogJmQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119026 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 04:55:05 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, Visual Music LIVE continues at Outpost 186 on Saturday at 8 PM. -- I'll be doing video improvisations with Dave Bryant (Ornette Coleman alumnus) -- keyboards Tsuyoshi Honjo - saxophones Michael Bloom strings and maybe more. Should be a wild mix of folks. Outpost 186, 186 Hampshire St (in the back), near Inman Square, Cambridge MA Suggested donation, $10 617.876.0860 ~ all ages ~ http://www.zeitgeist-outpost.org Many of my finished video pieces (both studio and live) can be seen at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld. -- "I rang a silent bell ..." -- Robert Hunter "... cast your dancing spell my way, I promise to go under it" -- Bob Dylan My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 6 04:55:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DED5183474; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 04:55:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_932fbd48-1fdd-49c2-9dbc-de9912e8c6bb_" X-Originating-IP: [184.145.20.52] From: Jack Cattedra To: Subject: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 04:55:36 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Nov 2012 04:55:36.0871 (UTC) FILETIME=[F609BB70:01CDBBDA] Resent-Message-ID: <2HiDLB.A.F2G.JhJmQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119027 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 04:55:37 +0000 (UTC) --_932fbd48-1fdd-49c2-9dbc-de9912e8c6bb_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stumbled upon this topic recently and I find it very interesting. From my p= ersonal experience and experimentation=2C I've found that I naturally tune = my instruments to this frequency or a harmonic of it. Not to mention=2C son= gwriting just seems to flow so much easier this way=2C who knows. I don't l= ike to intellectualize these types of things too much=2C but I figured I'd = share these links anyway. :) The Cosmic 432 - Part 1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjVATlX4XKMkThe Cos= mic 432 - Part 2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DkUuyeor8f6Q Fred Cusinato: 432 Hertz Healing - Truth Connections Radio - 15th May 2012h= ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGJTydBYVF4E = --_932fbd48-1fdd-49c2-9dbc-de9912e8c6bb_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Stumbled upon this topic recently and I fin= d it very interesting. From my personal experience and experimentation=2C I= 've found that I naturally tune my instruments to this frequency or a harmo= nic of it. Not to mention=2C songwriting just seems to flow so much easier = this way=2C who knows. I don't like to intellectualize these types of thing= s too much=2C but I figured I'd share these links anyway. :)


The Cosmic 432 - Part 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjVATlX4XKMk<= /h3>The Cosmic 432 - Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DkUuyeor8f6Q


Fred Cusinato: 432 Hertz Healing - Truth Conne= ctions Radio - 15th May 2012
= https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGJTydBYVF4E

= --_932fbd48-1fdd-49c2-9dbc-de9912e8c6bb_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 6 09:37:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7EDC7183464; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 09:37:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=PDB2rHXvfApX0TxGx30lrNTfD/BJz4wlWqgebRo9yPY=; b=h0WrPFUxO/jbt/Lez4eR2OOlEMB/IgWDxO9YVu4XSODqljb/YbhOdCUCW2yyMxG76m DEZpFgQM2itG4RewwZnrj4GNiXJ+ZkG7J+TQT4kJmOXvMNzWPDwlKwVx9WpkTKd2re4H 8Da602mUXa1Gj27IYFGHaxcOdesGZezeIrFt3daH474Uyr3+uvDl14paZplmw88spqNn CSYT8WS022pj7ZG3JMYqIT6IsHefywvN37uCBOfh2UFEGqxC7NCafvObvyMOLDU8sA8w es0354PBYX59y98suHkaa+jLQGMZBDHzK3I6KVGcZUsrySu4AoqR4vDKrI2rRB+w+KkB Zlag== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <50981F17.9010902@cruzio.com> References: <50981F17.9010902@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 17:37:50 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: RE: What Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/samplers/computers From: eib halimski To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307ca1ac075b6804cdd05b67 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119028 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 09:37:51 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307ca1ac075b6804cdd05b67 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sounds good Rick. well like these guys, i used to have problems syncing between loopers (especially when it's different brands). if we're not using the edp to sync between loopers which i think is overkill, the only solution is to practice, practice and practice. plan your loops smartly in song compositions so that when the loops starts to sound weird, mangle with it. On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 4:18 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 11/5/12 4:02 AM, Sergio Girardi wrote: > >> So I was thinking eventually to a looper which I could use to sync it >> with my Octatrack of with other gears. >> THe looper should be able to loop while slaved (because the Octatrack >> must be Master, that's a fact, unfortunately). >> Can the LP2 do that? Can it sync well to other devices or daw? >> And do I remember well or it can work with batteries? >> Because I do not really need another stage looper, I need now a street >> looper with batteries for when I will play in the streets with my friends... >> > > Hi Sergio, > > The LP-2 syncs well do other time based devices (digital delays, > modulation effects, panners, etc.). > I know because both my brother and myself have been utilizing it a lot in > this way. > > I still don't have specific knowledge of whether it syncs specifically to > an Octatrack or a software based > DAW, but I don't see why it wouldn't. It's just spitting and receiving > midi clock and robustly, at that. > > > Regarding batteries, the LP-2 is very hip in that it takes 6 AA batteries > which give it an amazing > 12 hours of looping time; vastly more most comparable units. > > This not only adds 'street time' but AA batteries are considerably cheaper > than 9 volt batteries if purchased in bulk (at least this is true here in > the US). > > Where are you located, Sergio? I'd love to hear your music and invite > you to come perform at next year's live looping festival (the Y2K13 > International Live Looping Festival which will be held in Northern > California (always the 3rd weekend of October) and several places in > Europe, the UK and Asia next summer) > > --20cf307ca1ac075b6804cdd05b67 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sounds good Rick. well like these guys, i used to have problems syncing bet= ween loopers (especially when it's different brands). if we're not = using the edp to sync between loopers which i think is overkill, the only s= olution is to practice, practice and practice. plan your loops smartly in s= ong compositions so that when the loops starts to sound weird, mangle with = it.

On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 4:18 AM, Rick Walker = <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
On 11/5/12 4:02 AM, Sergio Girardi wrote:
So I was thinking eventually to a looper which I could use to sync it with = my Octatrack of with other gears.
THe looper should be able to loop while slaved (because the Octatrack must = be Master, that's a fact, unfortunately).
Can the LP2 do that? Can it sync well to other devices or daw?
And do I remember well or it can work with batteries?
Because I do not really need another stage looper, I need now a street loop= er with batteries for when I will play in the streets with my friends...

Hi Sergio,

The LP-2 syncs well do other time based devices (digital delays, modulation= effects, panners, etc.).
I know because both my brother and myself have been utilizing it a lot in t= his way.

I still don't have specific knowledge of whether it syncs specifically = to an Octatrack or a software based
DAW, but I don't see why it wouldn't. =A0 It's just spitting an= d receiving midi clock and robustly, at that.


Regarding batteries, the LP-2 is very hip in that it takes 6 AA batteries w= hich give it an amazing
12 hours of looping time; =A0vastly more most comparable units.

This not only adds 'street time' but AA batteries are considerably = cheaper than 9 volt batteries if purchased in bulk (at least this is true h= ere in the US).

Where are you located, Sergio? =A0 I'd love to hear your music and invi= te you to come perform at next year's live looping festival (the Y2K13 = International Live Looping Festival which will be held in Northern Californ= ia (always the 3rd weekend of October) and several places in Europe, the UK= and Asia next summer)


--20cf307ca1ac075b6804cdd05b67-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 6 10:21:29 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A313183465; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 10:21:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=vblLxjBchJaax0WUkFvgBLCz8lJuGxWGPv2kA/CjyOU=; b=gd/PMlb38aQUjyQbV4BU6dje85vqcPdBm1ouVLwdZxlebPIWWK6oT6fQA1RNTiy71M AD+VmAZ0uT4lkU2IdFLNdCp6dXrCIYu72LQCy1+yjaqMKU6rX2PS88/0ZdRuRnPmB+1D x92AdNNnEdkHTHsHNe6wBc5i6a0GcbP+0xQhymiITuqJwyEb0Ddd8+u1oyLqDLVtaO9l xfJETlypr8mpXjTeP9H1yjhsa3vcSh5JqiRhFGI8T0O5y1x4f1zWZtj4+mX0IZfOcDue w3ZwHEeu8WApnCw3WOX29VzHobQCWgrUM2ubjjhTUCGhCXHVanhWBVFztZLmJBmhvSM7 vMTA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 11:21:27 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119029 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 10:21:28 +0000 (UTC) Yes, pretty interesting! All those links target videos and if you want to take in information faster, here's a text page for a good introduction: http://the-universal-mind.blogspot.se/2008/11/back-to-432-hz.html This, as most players in the 432 Hz debate, seems to refer to The committee 'Back to 432 Hz', created by Dutch journalist Richard Huisken in 2008: http://www.terugnaar432hz.org I haven't done much so far at 432 - not that I've been aware of - except for a choir music remix when the vocal recording files sent to me turned out to be at 432 Hz. I tuned down my studio to match that but noticed no other effect than my alto flute becoming a bitch to play that low (built for 440). One aspect of producing recordings with Apple Logic, that I'm fond of, is that as long as you stick with Logic's own virtual instruments (and there are more than in any other DAW package) you have instant access to global tuning options. These options not only let you tune down to 432 (or any other pitch you might fancy) but also chose between a couple of hundred micro tonal tunings, called "fixed tunings" in Logic because they needs you to define a tonal center. I'm not always fond of having a tonal center and then my personal favorite for sequencing virtual instruments in Logic is to use Hermode Tuning of the kind that constantly analyzes the arrangement and matches both thirds and fifths for the purest harmony in any musical situation. This means the thirds are not always the same - as in Pythagorian tuning, referred to in those linked videos - but changes depending to what other notes happend to be sounding at any particular moment. This is how often a choir or a string ensemble learn to adapt micro tuning within the performance of a musical piece. I plan try out making an all electronic album project some day in Hermode (3+5 optimization) with the middle A at 432. It must be big chunk of music because if presented on air or any other public media stream it will sound strange as all other music around are at 440 and we tend to remember pitch for several minutes after having heard music. So the playback setting must ensure that the listener is given the time needed to adjust. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 5:55 AM, Jack Cattedra wrote: > Stumbled upon this topic recently and I find it very interesting. From my > personal experience and experimentation, I've found that I naturally tune my > instruments to this frequency or a harmonic of it. Not to mention, > songwriting just seems to flow so much easier this way, who knows. I don't > like to intellectualize these types of things too much, but I figured I'd > share these links anyway. :) > > > The Cosmic 432 - Part 1 > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVATlX4XKMk > > The Cosmic 432 - Part 2 > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUuyeor8f6Q > > > Fred Cusinato: 432 Hertz Healing - Truth Connections Radio - 15th May 2012 > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJTydBYVF4E > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 6 11:31:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9AD7183476; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 11:31:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=aQ0JkjtPGGdE1EK6Tgj6dikpIMQDdLXgnn5Tl7eNI0o=; b=RyFM+wHxC/8bL6l5QNi1uLiAER+JS50WkYOE9MLX7kIODq8TTjWwAgTijJlUQOLovn OS1Nb1zLSpFytHUopEP6TEGokPU12foOisWHgNO+e5xAJYjrVULp2hb/+Fsa7Z9R5Qez bj32bithJwHiDexNSEzAXQ+2bSZ4HMunj6OIPEdpi4qme9CeJVaulvDIsInjnTyYB8xS qJwb9Ac092hTgrpUzA6c/wMugKC3DR2U8AqfEuea3Xw1GDemu82N/Wu855jsGKKa5Q8C uKiSqfFhZ6S+M6tRgP9pnZ67BWvoZ6kFIwf3ES1ABPjr6c5wVx82TL6zw1s6HjgVaMGx ZcXg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 06:31:05 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf300fad410612cf04cdd1f0bf Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119030 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 11:31:06 +0000 (UTC) --20cf300fad410612cf04cdd1f0bf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's pretty interesting Per and particularly the Apple Logic tuning mode. When I read the initial post of this thread I thought about sounds like in the 'Just' camp which I've done a lot of research in of late through a couple of member musicians in the http://sound-in.org (formerly ImprovFriday) community I'm part of each weekend. Though I don't pretend to know much about Just or microtonal there is a lot of interest here in NY among artists like Johnny Reinhard and Michael Waller, the latter a student and follower of LaMonte Young who is a minimalist movement composer here in NY that I only recently became aware of. I may be 'off' in my thoughts here is this may be nothing of the same though the idea of dropping pitch center to lower hertz sounds like approaches with 'just intonation'. Regardless interesting to me the initial and your informative post. Best Jim On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 5:21 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Yes, pretty interesting! All those links target videos and if you want > to take in information faster, here's a text page for a good > introduction: > http://the-universal-mind.blogspot.se/2008/11/back-to-432-hz.html > > This, as most players in the 432 Hz debate, seems to refer to The > committee 'Back to 432 Hz', created by Dutch journalist Richard > Huisken in 2008: > http://www.terugnaar432hz.org > > I haven't done much so far at 432 - not that I've been aware of - > except for a choir music remix when the vocal recording files sent to > me turned out to be at 432 Hz. I tuned down my studio to match that > but noticed no other effect than my alto flute becoming a bitch to > play that low (built for 440). > > One aspect of producing recordings with Apple Logic, that I'm fond of, > is that as long as you stick with Logic's own virtual instruments (and > there are more than in any other DAW package) you have instant access > to global tuning options. These options not only let you tune down to > 432 (or any other pitch you might fancy) but also chose between a > couple of hundred micro tonal tunings, called "fixed tunings" in Logic > because they needs you to define a tonal center. > > I'm not always fond of having a tonal center and then my personal > favorite for sequencing virtual instruments in Logic is to use Hermode > Tuning of the kind that constantly analyzes the arrangement and > matches both thirds and fifths for the purest harmony in any musical > situation. This means the thirds are not always the same - as in > Pythagorian tuning, referred to in those linked videos - but changes > depending to what other notes happend to be sounding at any particular > moment. This is how often a choir or a string ensemble learn to adapt > micro tuning within the performance of a musical piece. > > I plan try out making an all electronic album project some day in > Hermode (3+5 optimization) with the middle A at 432. It must be big > chunk of music because if presented on air or any other public media > stream it will sound strange as all other music around are at 440 and > we tend to remember pitch for several minutes after having heard > music. So the playback setting must ensure that the listener is given > the time needed to adjust. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 5:55 AM, Jack Cattedra > wrote: > > Stumbled upon this topic recently and I find it very interesting. From = my > > personal experience and experimentation, I've found that I naturally > tune my > > instruments to this frequency or a harmonic of it. Not to mention, > > songwriting just seems to flow so much easier this way, who knows. I > don't > > like to intellectualize these types of things too much, but I figured I= 'd > > share these links anyway. :) > > > > > > The Cosmic 432 - Part 1 > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjVATlX4XKMk > > > > The Cosmic 432 - Part 2 > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DkUuyeor8f6Q > > > > > > Fred Cusinato: 432 Hertz Healing - Truth Connections Radio - 15th May > 2012 > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGJTydBYVF4E > > > > --=20 --=20 *jimgoodin.com* - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive minimalism' *The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music* - 'Organically inspired New Music' *From Brooklyn To Glindran *, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from this CD will benefit *JDRF International * *Tips Across the Waters *, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware. --20cf300fad410612cf04cdd1f0bf Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's pretty interesting Per and particularly the Apple Logic tuning m= ode. =A0When I read the initial post of this thread I thought about sounds = like in the 'Just' camp which I've done a lot of research in of= late through a couple of member musicians in the http://sound-in.org (formerly ImprovFriday) community I'm pa= rt of each weekend.

Though I don't pretend to know much about Just or microt= onal there is a lot of interest here in NY among =A0artists like Johnny Rei= nhard and Michael Waller, the latter a student and follower of LaMonte Youn= g who is a minimalist movement composer here in NY that I only recently bec= ame aware of.

I may be 'off' in my thoughts here is this may = be nothing of the same though the idea of dropping pitch center to lower he= rtz sounds like approaches with 'just intonation'.

Regardless interesting to me the initial and your informative po= st.

Best


J= im

On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 5:21 AM, Per Bo= ysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, pretty interesting! All those links tar= get videos and if you want
to take in information faster, here's a text page for a good
introduction:
http://the-universal-mind.blogspot.se/2008/11/back-to-= 432-hz.html

This, as most players in the 432 Hz debate, seems to refer to The
committee 'Back to 432 Hz', created by Dutch journalist Richard
Huisken in 2008:
http://www.teru= gnaar432hz.org

I haven't done much so far at 432 - not that I've been aware of - except for a choir music remix when the vocal recording files sent to
me turned out to be at 432 Hz. I tuned down my studio to match that
but noticed no other effect than my alto flute becoming a bitch to
play that low (built for 440).

One aspect of producing recordings with Apple Logic, that I'm fond of,<= br> is that as long as you stick with Logic's own virtual instruments (and<= br> there are more than in any other DAW package) you have instant access
to global tuning options. These options not only let you tune down to
432 (or any other pitch you might fancy) but also chose between a
couple of hundred micro tonal tunings, called "fixed tunings" in = Logic
because they needs you to define a tonal center.

I'm not always fond of having a tonal center and then my personal
favorite for sequencing virtual instruments in Logic is to use Hermode
Tuning of the kind that constantly analyzes the arrangement and
matches both thirds and fifths for the purest harmony in any musical
situation. This means the thirds are not always the same - as in
Pythagorian tuning, referred to in those linked videos - but changes
depending to what other notes happend to be sounding at any particular
moment. This is how often a choir or a string ensemble learn to adapt
micro tuning within the performance of a musical piece.

I plan try out making an all electronic album project some day in
Hermode (3+5 optimization) with the middle A at 432. It must be big
chunk of music because if presented on air or any other public media
stream it will sound strange as all other music around are at 440 and
we tend to remember pitch for several minutes after having heard
music. So the playback setting must ensure that the listener is given
the time needed to adjust.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.y= outube.com/perboysen


On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 5:55 AM, Jack Cattedra
<the_beat_conductor@ho= tmail.com> wrote:
> Stumbled upon this topic recently and I find it very interesting. From= my
> personal experience and experimentation, I've found that I natural= ly tune my
> instruments to this frequency or a harmonic of it. Not to mention,
> songwriting just seems to flow so much easier this way, who knows. I d= on't
> like to intellectualize these types of things too much, but I figured = I'd
> share these links anyway. :)
>
>
> The Cosmic 432 - Part 1
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjVATlX4XKMk
>
> The Cosmic 432 - Part 2
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DkUuyeor8f6Q
>
>
> Fred Cusinato: 432 Hertz Healing - Truth Connections Radio - 15th May = 2012
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGJTydBYVF4E
>




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--20cf300fad410612cf04cdd1f0bf-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 6 12:22:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F4BE183474; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:22:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_73b4a693-ef64-4ca3-a5e8-7e0bfedfaf6b_" X-Originating-IP: [184.145.20.52] From: Jack Cattedra To: Subject: RE: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:22:34 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Nov 2012 12:22:35.0921 (UTC) FILETIME=[67700010:01CDBC19] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119031 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:22:37 +0000 (UTC) --_73b4a693-ef64-4ca3-a5e8-7e0bfedfaf6b_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think most instruments are built for 440=2C but with more awareness=2C co= mpanies may take notice and head in the direction of 432 builds. At the end= of the day=2C there are no rules to music. I believe we all have the abili= ty to tune our instruments to our liking=2C so 'A' can be whatever you want= :) ....as long as you don't snap your strings lolll Just 2 examples of VST plug-ins that I use that allow you to dial in a mast= er tuning: Image-Line Sytrus & Rob Papen's Albino 3 VERY GROOVY! > Date: Tue=2C 6 Nov 2012 11:21:27 +0100 > Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? > From: perboysen@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > I haven't done much so far at 432 - not that I've been aware of - > except for a choir music remix when the vocal recording files sent to > me turned out to be at 432 Hz. I tuned down my studio to match that > but noticed no other effect than my alto flute becoming a bitch to > play that low (built for 440). = --_73b4a693-ef64-4ca3-a5e8-7e0bfedfaf6b_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think most instruments are built for 440=2C but with more awareness=2C co= mpanies may take notice and head in the direction of 432 builds. At the end= of the day=2C there are no rules to music. I believe we all have the abili= ty to tune our instruments to our liking=2C so 'A' can be whatever you want= :) ....as long as you don't snap your strings lolll

Just 2 examples= of VST plug-ins that I use that allow you to dial in a master tuning:
<= br>Image-Line Sytrus &=3B Rob Papen's Albino 3


VERY GROOVY!
>=3B Date: Tue=2C 6 Nov = 2012 11:21:27 +0100
>=3B Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz?
>= =3B From: perboysen@gmail.com
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight= .com
>=3B
>=3B I haven't done much so far at 432 - not that I've = been aware of -
>=3B except for a choir music remix when the vocal rec= ording files sent to
>=3B me turned out to be at 432 Hz. I tuned down = my studio to match that
>=3B but noticed no other effect than my alto = flute becoming a bitch to
>=3B play that low (built for 440).

<= /div>
= --_73b4a693-ef64-4ca3-a5e8-7e0bfedfaf6b_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 6 13:34:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A2DB18347A; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 13:34:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_57212dc1-b849-4d3a-adc1-cd5af3cd0806_" X-Originating-IP: [217.92.117.212] From: Sergio Girardi Sender: To: Subject: RE: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 14:34:50 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Nov 2012 13:34:50.0252 (UTC) FILETIME=[7EE66CC0:01CDBC23] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119032 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 13:34:52 +0000 (UTC) --_57212dc1-b849-4d3a-adc1-cd5af3cd0806_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I love when you write=2C Per.Can you please write more?I don't care what=2C= just write=2C please.:D > Date: Tue=2C 6 Nov 2012 11:21:27 +0100 > Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? > From: perboysen@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Yes=2C pretty interesting! All those links target videos and if you want > to take in information faster=2C here's a text page for a good > introduction: > http://the-universal-mind.blogspot.se/2008/11/back-to-432-hz.html >=20 > This=2C as most players in the 432 Hz debate=2C seems to refer to The > committee 'Back to 432 Hz'=2C created by Dutch journalist Richard > Huisken in 2008: > http://www.terugnaar432hz.org >=20 > I haven't done much so far at 432 - not that I've been aware of - > except for a choir music remix when the vocal recording files sent to > me turned out to be at 432 Hz. I tuned down my studio to match that > but noticed no other effect than my alto flute becoming a bitch to > play that low (built for 440). >=20 > One aspect of producing recordings with Apple Logic=2C that I'm fond of= =2C > is that as long as you stick with Logic's own virtual instruments (and > there are more than in any other DAW package) you have instant access > to global tuning options. These options not only let you tune down to > 432 (or any other pitch you might fancy) but also chose between a > couple of hundred micro tonal tunings=2C called "fixed tunings" in Logic > because they needs you to define a tonal center. >=20 > I'm not always fond of having a tonal center and then my personal > favorite for sequencing virtual instruments in Logic is to use Hermode > Tuning of the kind that constantly analyzes the arrangement and > matches both thirds and fifths for the purest harmony in any musical > situation. This means the thirds are not always the same - as in > Pythagorian tuning=2C referred to in those linked videos - but changes > depending to what other notes happend to be sounding at any particular > moment. This is how often a choir or a string ensemble learn to adapt > micro tuning within the performance of a musical piece. >=20 > I plan try out making an all electronic album project some day in > Hermode (3+5 optimization) with the middle A at 432. It must be big > chunk of music because if presented on air or any other public media > stream it will sound strange as all other music around are at 440 and > we tend to remember pitch for several minutes after having heard > music. So the playback setting must ensure that the listener is given > the time needed to adjust. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >=20 >=20 > On Tue=2C Nov 6=2C 2012 at 5:55 AM=2C Jack Cattedra > wrote: > > Stumbled upon this topic recently and I find it very interesting. From = my > > personal experience and experimentation=2C I've found that I naturally = tune my > > instruments to this frequency or a harmonic of it. Not to mention=2C > > songwriting just seems to flow so much easier this way=2C who knows. I = don't > > like to intellectualize these types of things too much=2C but I figured= I'd > > share these links anyway. :) > > > > > > The Cosmic 432 - Part 1 > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjVATlX4XKMk > > > > The Cosmic 432 - Part 2 > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DkUuyeor8f6Q > > > > > > Fred Cusinato: 432 Hertz Healing - Truth Connections Radio - 15th May 2= 012 > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGJTydBYVF4E > > >=20 = --_57212dc1-b849-4d3a-adc1-cd5af3cd0806_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I love when you write=2C Per.
Can you please write more?
I do= n't care what=2C just write=2C please.
:D

>=3B Date: Tue=2C 6 Nov 2012 11:21:27 +0100>=3B Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz?
>=3B From: perboysen@gmai= l.com
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
>= =3B Yes=2C pretty interesting! All those links target videos and if you wan= t
>=3B to take in information faster=2C here's a text page for a good<= br>>=3B introduction:
>=3B http://the-universal-mind.blogspot.se/200= 8/11/back-to-432-hz.html
>=3B
>=3B This=2C as most players in th= e 432 Hz debate=2C seems to refer to The
>=3B committee 'Back to 432 H= z'=2C created by Dutch journalist Richard
>=3B Huisken in 2008:
>= =3B http://www.terugnaar432hz.org
>=3B
>=3B I haven't done much = so far at 432 - not that I've been aware of -
>=3B except for a choir = music remix when the vocal recording files sent to
>=3B me turned out = to be at 432 Hz. I tuned down my studio to match that
>=3B but noticed= no other effect than my alto flute becoming a bitch to
>=3B play that= low (built for 440).
>=3B
>=3B One aspect of producing recordin= gs with Apple Logic=2C that I'm fond of=2C
>=3B is that as long as you= stick with Logic's own virtual instruments (and
>=3B there are more t= han in any other DAW package) you have instant access
>=3B to global t= uning options. These options not only let you tune down to
>=3B 432 (o= r any other pitch you might fancy) but also chose between a
>=3B coupl= e of hundred micro tonal tunings=2C called "fixed tunings" in Logic
>= =3B because they needs you to define a tonal center.
>=3B
>=3B I= 'm not always fond of having a tonal center and then my personal
>=3B = favorite for sequencing virtual instruments in Logic is to use Hermode
&= gt=3B Tuning of the kind that constantly analyzes the arrangement and
&g= t=3B matches both thirds and fifths for the purest harmony in any musical>=3B situation. This means the thirds are not always the same - as in>=3B Pythagorian tuning=2C referred to in those linked videos - but cha= nges
>=3B depending to what other notes happend to be sounding at any = particular
>=3B moment. This is how often a choir or a string ensemble= learn to adapt
>=3B micro tuning within the performance of a musical = piece.
>=3B
>=3B I plan try out making an all electronic album p= roject some day in
>=3B Hermode (3+5 optimization) with the middle A a= t 432. It must be big
>=3B chunk of music because if presented on air = or any other public media
>=3B stream it will sound strange as all oth= er music around are at 440 and
>=3B we tend to remember pitch for seve= ral minutes after having heard
>=3B music. So the playback setting mus= t ensure that the listener is given
>=3B the time needed to adjust.>=3B
>=3B Greetings from Sweden
>=3B
>=3B Per Boysen>=3B www.perboysen.com
>=3B http://www.youtube.com/perboysen
>= =3B
>=3B
>=3B On Tue=2C Nov 6=2C 2012 at 5:55 AM=2C Jack Catted= ra
>=3B <=3Bthe_beat_conductor@hotmail.com>=3B wrote:
>=3B &g= t=3B Stumbled upon this topic recently and I find it very interesting. From= my
>=3B >=3B personal experience and experimentation=2C I've found = that I naturally tune my
>=3B >=3B instruments to this frequency or = a harmonic of it. Not to mention=2C
>=3B >=3B songwriting just seems= to flow so much easier this way=2C who knows. I don't
>=3B >=3B lik= e to intellectualize these types of things too much=2C but I figured I'd>=3B >=3B share these links anyway. :)
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >= =3B
>=3B >=3B The Cosmic 432 - Part 1
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >= =3B https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjVATlX4XKMk
>=3B >=3B
>= =3B >=3B The Cosmic 432 - Part 2
>=3B >=3B https://www.youtube.com= /watch?v=3DkUuyeor8f6Q
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B F= red Cusinato: 432 Hertz Healing - Truth Connections Radio - 15th May 2012>=3B >=3B https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGJTydBYVF4E
>=3B >= =3B
>=3B
= --_57212dc1-b849-4d3a-adc1-cd5af3cd0806_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 6 14:19:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C56D18347D; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 14:19:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 14:19:36 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_5f1af170-26a7-4b27-aac0-24d9e9ec409c_" X-Originating-IP: [184.145.20.52] From: Jack Cattedra To: Subject: RE: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 14:14:34 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Nov 2012 14:14:35.0248 (UTC) FILETIME=[0C77EF00:01CDBC29] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119033 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 14:19:36 +0000 (UTC) --_5f1af170-26a7-4b27-aac0-24d9e9ec409c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable co-sign loll From: simpliflying@gmail.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? Date: Tue=2C 6 Nov 2012 14:34:50 +0100 I love when you write=2C Per.Can you please write more?I don't care what=2C= just write=2C please.:D > Date: Tue=2C 6 Nov 2012 11:21:27 +0100 > Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? > From: perboysen@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Yes=2C pretty interesting! All those links target videos and if you want > to take in information faster=2C here's a text page for a good > introduction: > http://the-universal-mind.blogspot.se/2008/11/back-to-432-hz.html >=20 > This=2C as most players in the 432 Hz debate=2C seems to refer to The > committee 'Back to 432 Hz'=2C created by Dutch journalist Richard > Huisken in 2008: > http://www.terugnaar432hz.org >=20 > I haven't done much so far at 432 - not that I've been aware of - > except for a choir music remix when the vocal recording files sent to > me turned out to be at 432 Hz. I tuned down my studio to match that > but noticed no other effect than my alto flute becoming a bitch to > play that low (built for 440). >=20 > One aspect of producing recordings with Apple Logic=2C that I'm fond of= =2C > is that as long as you stick with Logic's own virtual instruments (and > there are more than in any other DAW package) you have instant access > to global tuning options. These options not only let you tune down to > 432 (or any other pitch you might fancy) but also chose between a > couple of hundred micro tonal tunings=2C called "fixed tunings" in Logic > because they needs you to define a tonal center. >=20 > I'm not always fond of having a tonal center and then my personal > favorite for sequencing virtual instruments in Logic is to use Hermode > Tuning of the kind that constantly analyzes the arrangement and > matches both thirds and fifths for the purest harmony in any musical > situation. This means the thirds are not always the same - as in > Pythagorian tuning=2C referred to in those linked videos - but changes > depending to what other notes happend to be sounding at any particular > moment. This is how often a choir or a string ensemble learn to adapt > micro tuning within the performance of a musical piece. >=20 > I plan try out making an all electronic album project some day in > Hermode (3+5 optimization) with the middle A at 432. It must be big > chunk of music because if presented on air or any other public media > stream it will sound strange as all other music around are at 440 and > we tend to remember pitch for several minutes after having heard > music. So the playback setting must ensure that the listener is given > the time needed to adjust. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >=20 >=20 > On Tue=2C Nov 6=2C 2012 at 5:55 AM=2C Jack Cattedra > wrote: > > Stumbled upon this topic recently and I find it very interesting. From = my > > personal experience and experimentation=2C I've found that I naturally = tune my > > instruments to this frequency or a harmonic of it. Not to mention=2C > > songwriting just seems to flow so much easier this way=2C who knows. I = don't > > like to intellectualize these types of things too much=2C but I figured= I'd > > share these links anyway. :) > > > > > > The Cosmic 432 - Part 1 > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjVATlX4XKMk > > > > The Cosmic 432 - Part 2 > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DkUuyeor8f6Q > > > > > > Fred Cusinato: 432 Hertz Healing - Truth Connections Radio - 15th May 2= 012 > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGJTydBYVF4E > > >=20 = --_5f1af170-26a7-4b27-aac0-24d9e9ec409c_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
co-sign loll

From: simpliflying@gmail.com
To: loopers-delight@loopers-del= ight.com
Subject: RE: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz?
Date: Tue=2C 6 Nov 2012= 14:34:50 +0100

I love when you write=2C Per.
Can you please write more?
I do= n't care what=2C just write=2C please.
:D

>=3B Date: Tue=2C 6 Nov 2012 11:21:27 +0100=
>=3B Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz?
>=3B From: perboysen@g= mail.com
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
&g= t=3B Yes=2C pretty interesting! All those links target videos and if you wa= nt
>=3B to take in information faster=2C here's a text page for a good=
>=3B introduction:
>=3B http://the-universal-mind.blogspot.se/20= 08/11/back-to-432-hz.html
>=3B
>=3B This=2C as most players in t= he 432 Hz debate=2C seems to refer to The
>=3B committee 'Back to 432 = Hz'=2C created by Dutch journalist Richard
>=3B Huisken in 2008:
&g= t=3B http://www.terugnaar432hz.org
>=3B
>=3B I haven't done much= so far at 432 - not that I've been aware of -
>=3B except for a choir= music remix when the vocal recording files sent to
>=3B me turned out= to be at 432 Hz. I tuned down my studio to match that
>=3B but notice= d no other effect than my alto flute becoming a bitch to
>=3B play tha= t low (built for 440).
>=3B
>=3B One aspect of producing recordi= ngs with Apple Logic=2C that I'm fond of=2C
>=3B is that as long as yo= u stick with Logic's own virtual instruments (and
>=3B there are more = than in any other DAW package) you have instant access
>=3B to global = tuning options. These options not only let you tune down to
>=3B 432 (= or any other pitch you might fancy) but also chose between a
>=3B coup= le of hundred micro tonal tunings=2C called "fixed tunings" in Logic
>= =3B because they needs you to define a tonal center.
>=3B
>=3B I= 'm not always fond of having a tonal center and then my personal
>=3B = favorite for sequencing virtual instruments in Logic is to use Hermode
&= gt=3B Tuning of the kind that constantly analyzes the arrangement and
&g= t=3B matches both thirds and fifths for the purest harmony in any musical>=3B situation. This means the thirds are not always the same - as in>=3B Pythagorian tuning=2C referred to in those linked videos - but cha= nges
>=3B depending to what other notes happend to be sounding at any = particular
>=3B moment. This is how often a choir or a string ensemble= learn to adapt
>=3B micro tuning within the performance of a musical = piece.
>=3B
>=3B I plan try out making an all electronic album p= roject some day in
>=3B Hermode (3+5 optimization) with the middle A a= t 432. It must be big
>=3B chunk of music because if presented on air = or any other public media
>=3B stream it will sound strange as all oth= er music around are at 440 and
>=3B we tend to remember pitch for seve= ral minutes after having heard
>=3B music. So the playback setting mus= t ensure that the listener is given
>=3B the time needed to adjust.>=3B
>=3B Greetings from Sweden
>=3B
>=3B Per Boysen>=3B www.perboysen.com
>=3B http://www.youtube.com/perboysen
>= =3B
>=3B
>=3B On Tue=2C Nov 6=2C 2012 at 5:55 AM=2C Jack Catted= ra
>=3B <=3Bthe_beat_conductor@hotmail.com>=3B wrote:
>=3B &g= t=3B Stumbled upon this topic recently and I find it very interesting. From= my
>=3B >=3B personal experience and experimentation=2C I've found = that I naturally tune my
>=3B >=3B instruments to this frequency or = a harmonic of it. Not to mention=2C
>=3B >=3B songwriting just seems= to flow so much easier this way=2C who knows. I don't
>=3B >=3B lik= e to intellectualize these types of things too much=2C but I figured I'd>=3B >=3B share these links anyway. :)
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >= =3B
>=3B >=3B The Cosmic 432 - Part 1
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >= =3B https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjVATlX4XKMk
>=3B >=3B
>= =3B >=3B The Cosmic 432 - Part 2
>=3B >=3B https://www.youtube.com= /watch?v=3DkUuyeor8f6Q
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B F= red Cusinato: 432 Hertz Healing - Truth Connections Radio - 15th May 2012>=3B >=3B https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGJTydBYVF4E
>=3B >= =3B
>=3B
= --_5f1af170-26a7-4b27-aac0-24d9e9ec409c_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 6 15:41:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E54E183476; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 15:41:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 15:41:44 +0000 From: Philip Conway To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? Message-ID: <14F2D353E2256EF054F7F6C2@epi-pc372.epi.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: References: Originator-Info: login-token=Mulberry:01OVpDU6m9e4U3jYm8eq6+qMF4iLK2Z6mHtsV6iau7b6yIpLYy0LQ=; token_authority=mailto:postmaster@bristol.ac.uk X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <_edTeC.A.tsD.--SmQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119034 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 15:41:50 +0000 (UTC) That 'The Universal Mind' blog is scarily hilarious in David Icke kind of a way. Turns out 440hz comes from the Nazis! Other posts tell of alien invasions and so on. I hope I don't offend anyone if I suggest that the whole spiritualist, frequency of the universe, Mayan calendar, planets aligning, horoscope-type stuff surrounding the 432hz debate is ridiculous but it is an interesting aesthetic question. Don't think I've ever listened to music in that tuning, at least not knowingly. Philip. --On 06 November 2012 11:21 +0100 Per Boysen wrote: > Yes, pretty interesting! All those links target videos and if you want > to take in information faster, here's a text page for a good > introduction: > http://the-universal-mind.blogspot.se/2008/11/back-to-432-hz.html > > This, as most players in the 432 Hz debate, seems to refer to The > committee 'Back to 432 Hz', created by Dutch journalist Richard > Huisken in 2008: > http://www.terugnaar432hz.org > > I haven't done much so far at 432 - not that I've been aware of - > except for a choir music remix when the vocal recording files sent to > me turned out to be at 432 Hz. I tuned down my studio to match that > but noticed no other effect than my alto flute becoming a bitch to > play that low (built for 440). > > One aspect of producing recordings with Apple Logic, that I'm fond of, > is that as long as you stick with Logic's own virtual instruments (and > there are more than in any other DAW package) you have instant access > to global tuning options. These options not only let you tune down to > 432 (or any other pitch you might fancy) but also chose between a > couple of hundred micro tonal tunings, called "fixed tunings" in Logic > because they needs you to define a tonal center. > > I'm not always fond of having a tonal center and then my personal > favorite for sequencing virtual instruments in Logic is to use Hermode > Tuning of the kind that constantly analyzes the arrangement and > matches both thirds and fifths for the purest harmony in any musical > situation. This means the thirds are not always the same - as in > Pythagorian tuning, referred to in those linked videos - but changes > depending to what other notes happend to be sounding at any particular > moment. This is how often a choir or a string ensemble learn to adapt > micro tuning within the performance of a musical piece. > > I plan try out making an all electronic album project some day in > Hermode (3+5 optimization) with the middle A at 432. It must be big > chunk of music because if presented on air or any other public media > stream it will sound strange as all other music around are at 440 and > we tend to remember pitch for several minutes after having heard > music. So the playback setting must ensure that the listener is given > the time needed to adjust. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 5:55 AM, Jack Cattedra > wrote: >> Stumbled upon this topic recently and I find it very interesting. From my >> personal experience and experimentation, I've found that I naturally >> tune my instruments to this frequency or a harmonic of it. Not to >> mention, songwriting just seems to flow so much easier this way, who >> knows. I don't like to intellectualize these types of things too much, >> but I figured I'd share these links anyway. :) >> >> >> The Cosmic 432 - Part 1 >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVATlX4XKMk >> >> The Cosmic 432 - Part 2 >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUuyeor8f6Q >> >> >> Fred Cusinato: 432 Hertz Healing - Truth Connections Radio - 15th May >> 2012 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJTydBYVF4E >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 6 15:48:34 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E8780183476; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 15:48:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3450 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 15:48:33 UTC Message-ID: <509923D7.4000208@virgin.net> Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 14:51:03 +0000 From: Dave Draper Reply-To: Dave Draper , dh.draper@virgin.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Originating-Smarthost03-IP: [82.69.58.35] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119035 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 15:48:33 +0000 (UTC) As I understand it, just intonation is based on the natural harmonics of the fundamental - any fundamental - so is the natural scale of the bugle eg. So all the intervals are simple mathematical ratios of the frequency of the fundamental, be it 440Hz, 432Hzm 256Hz, whatever. So a just fifth = 2:3, fourth = 3:4, maj 3rd = 4:5, min third= 5:6 & so on. Just intonation might sound sweeter (to some) when A=440Hz, but you can still play just intonation at A=440Hz. 'Course us guitar-players have been using Pythagorean intonation for years when we (mistakenly) tune to harmonics! Check out 'On the Sensations of Tone' by Hermann Helmholtz if it's still available (& you've got a few months to spare!). There's a lot of it, but it's a fascinating book. Dave On 06/11/2012 11:31, Jim Goodin wrote: > That's pretty interesting Per and particularly the Apple Logic tuning > mode. When I read the initial post of this thread I thought about > sounds like in the 'Just' camp which I've done a lot of research in of > late through a couple of member musicians in the http://sound-in.org > (formerly ImprovFriday) community I'm part of each weekend. > > Though I don't pretend to know much about Just or microtonal there is a > lot of interest here in NY among artists like Johnny Reinhard and > Michael Waller, the latter a student and follower of LaMonte Young who > is a minimalist movement composer here in NY that I only recently became > aware of. > > I may be 'off' in my thoughts here is this may be nothing of the same > though the idea of dropping pitch center to lower hertz sounds like > approaches with 'just intonation'. > > Regardless interesting to me the initial and your informative post. > > Best > > > Jim > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 5:21 AM, Per Boysen > wrote: > > Yes, pretty interesting! All those links target videos and if you want > to take in information faster, here's a text page for a good > introduction: > http://the-universal-mind.blogspot.se/2008/11/back-to-432-hz.html > > This, as most players in the 432 Hz debate, seems to refer to The > committee 'Back to 432 Hz', created by Dutch journalist Richard > Huisken in 2008: > http://www.terugnaar432hz.org > > I haven't done much so far at 432 - not that I've been aware of - > except for a choir music remix when the vocal recording files sent to > me turned out to be at 432 Hz. I tuned down my studio to match that > but noticed no other effect than my alto flute becoming a bitch to > play that low (built for 440). > > One aspect of producing recordings with Apple Logic, that I'm fond of, > is that as long as you stick with Logic's own virtual instruments (and > there are more than in any other DAW package) you have instant access > to global tuning options. These options not only let you tune down to > 432 (or any other pitch you might fancy) but also chose between a > couple of hundred micro tonal tunings, called "fixed tunings" in Logic > because they needs you to define a tonal center. > > I'm not always fond of having a tonal center and then my personal > favorite for sequencing virtual instruments in Logic is to use Hermode > Tuning of the kind that constantly analyzes the arrangement and > matches both thirds and fifths for the purest harmony in any musical > situation. This means the thirds are not always the same - as in > Pythagorian tuning, referred to in those linked videos - but changes > depending to what other notes happend to be sounding at any particular > moment. This is how often a choir or a string ensemble learn to adapt > micro tuning within the performance of a musical piece. > > I plan try out making an all electronic album project some day in > Hermode (3+5 optimization) with the middle A at 432. It must be big > chunk of music because if presented on air or any other public media > stream it will sound strange as all other music around are at 440 and > we tend to remember pitch for several minutes after having heard > music. So the playback setting must ensure that the listener is given > the time needed to adjust. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 5:55 AM, Jack Cattedra > > wrote: > > Stumbled upon this topic recently and I find it very interesting. > From my > > personal experience and experimentation, I've found that I > naturally tune my > > instruments to this frequency or a harmonic of it. Not to mention, > > songwriting just seems to flow so much easier this way, who > knows. I don't > > like to intellectualize these types of things too much, but I > figured I'd > > share these links anyway. :) > > > > > > The Cosmic 432 - Part 1 > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVATlX4XKMk > > > > The Cosmic 432 - Part 2 > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUuyeor8f6Q > > > > > > Fred Cusinato: 432 Hertz Healing - Truth Connections Radio - 15th > May 2012 > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJTydBYVF4E > > > > > > > -- > -- > /jimgoodin.com/ - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, > color blue, repetitive minimalism' > /The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music/ > - 'Organically inspired New Music' > /From Brooklyn To Glindran /, a > new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Thörn. Proceeds > from this CD will benefit /JDRF International / > > /Tips Across the Waters > /, > a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 6 15:58:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35C2C183464; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 15:58:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=MpCZi0xT/0PGMo8r0FFrak20DNMFgG6TeOlc1XQOGt0=; b=FFTzEeCarRR73bAZYj9CR7F5YSt7QaXveQfE3AlVe9fQAoFUWZtxJlIPkvN3htWegr QsoxoGy07OLGal1/1UvvcXoF63BdQTO5y/0ra4OZd+yRhGSXPYqEs8ffe8aFcGQLbLfP CSqlXqxB0bmCyo6fWrkz2jOJ1QdMYtgODJ8Zdf7CtGgMrvJWE76YaqsjKwqcBtLvhtFn Q0l8qoIom6Wi3zXRjkW3qDtMb6X365NCBitE6sYzEPnOhkIUVKD2oTPAt+8aQmTD3RW/ Qx0B1by9j2oi6tTZYNELLaxDL2Dvj7g16nQrf9J06jAw2kjEUivUAwX9qDXmUc1SWVrT GxQw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <14F2D353E2256EF054F7F6C2@epi-pc372.epi.bris.ac.uk> References: <14F2D353E2256EF054F7F6C2@epi-pc372.epi.bris.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 16:58:41 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119036 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 15:58:44 +0000 (UTC) Yes, I too found all that superstition surrounding the topic. But that shouldn't stop you from plugging in at 432 and listen if it really sounds better. I produced a recording once at 432 and did not notice any spiritual effects except for the normal good vibe music tends to bring. But I'd like to deal more with that global tuning before forming my opinion. After all it has been the norm for a much longer time than the recent 440 pitch tuning and some peoples say music sounds with a better definition that way. Well enough to at least make me curious. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Philip Conway wrote: > That 'The Universal Mind' blog is scarily hilarious in David Icke kind of a > way. Turns out 440hz comes from the Nazis! Other posts tell of alien > invasions and so on. I hope I don't offend anyone if I suggest that the > whole spiritualist, frequency of the universe, Mayan calendar, planets > aligning, horoscope-type stuff surrounding the 432hz debate is ridiculous > but it is an interesting aesthetic question. Don't think I've ever listened > to music in that tuning, at least not knowingly. > > > Philip. > > --On 06 November 2012 11:21 +0100 Per Boysen wrote: > >> Yes, pretty interesting! All those links target videos and if you want >> to take in information faster, here's a text page for a good >> introduction: >> http://the-universal-mind.blogspot.se/2008/11/back-to-432-hz.html >> >> This, as most players in the 432 Hz debate, seems to refer to The >> committee 'Back to 432 Hz', created by Dutch journalist Richard >> Huisken in 2008: >> http://www.terugnaar432hz.org >> >> I haven't done much so far at 432 - not that I've been aware of - >> except for a choir music remix when the vocal recording files sent to >> me turned out to be at 432 Hz. I tuned down my studio to match that >> but noticed no other effect than my alto flute becoming a bitch to >> play that low (built for 440). >> >> One aspect of producing recordings with Apple Logic, that I'm fond of, >> is that as long as you stick with Logic's own virtual instruments (and >> there are more than in any other DAW package) you have instant access >> to global tuning options. These options not only let you tune down to >> 432 (or any other pitch you might fancy) but also chose between a >> couple of hundred micro tonal tunings, called "fixed tunings" in Logic >> because they needs you to define a tonal center. >> >> I'm not always fond of having a tonal center and then my personal >> favorite for sequencing virtual instruments in Logic is to use Hermode >> Tuning of the kind that constantly analyzes the arrangement and >> matches both thirds and fifths for the purest harmony in any musical >> situation. This means the thirds are not always the same - as in >> Pythagorian tuning, referred to in those linked videos - but changes >> depending to what other notes happend to be sounding at any particular >> moment. This is how often a choir or a string ensemble learn to adapt >> micro tuning within the performance of a musical piece. >> >> I plan try out making an all electronic album project some day in >> Hermode (3+5 optimization) with the middle A at 432. It must be big >> chunk of music because if presented on air or any other public media >> stream it will sound strange as all other music around are at 440 and >> we tend to remember pitch for several minutes after having heard >> music. So the playback setting must ensure that the listener is given >> the time needed to adjust. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.perboysen.com >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 5:55 AM, Jack Cattedra >> wrote: >>> >>> Stumbled upon this topic recently and I find it very interesting. From my >>> personal experience and experimentation, I've found that I naturally >>> tune my instruments to this frequency or a harmonic of it. Not to >>> mention, songwriting just seems to flow so much easier this way, who >>> knows. I don't like to intellectualize these types of things too much, >>> but I figured I'd share these links anyway. :) >>> >>> >>> The Cosmic 432 - Part 1 >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVATlX4XKMk >>> >>> The Cosmic 432 - Part 2 >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUuyeor8f6Q >>> >>> >>> Fred Cusinato: 432 Hertz Healing - Truth Connections Radio - 15th May >>> 2012 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJTydBYVF4E >>> >> > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 6 17:09:29 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A5EB18347A; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 17:09:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 823194.87898.bm@omp1055.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1352221767; bh=LpHm9F5d+SVk5hMGNixt8AEZHbnh2+E0pkNK1X6S85w=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=C1zV9BHKY38AkTu5qRFNFG2SoPXVTBOkg1zvbW6r6OzYYTRpWO343TvkQhNfHZdmXDnSMSv8vDCurjVnRB7xJRm3drVXnhXl5E5HsvdfVXy/UVoHVuZJWYVyX+VOjodT2Mp2ZMHvm6gwQJ+Zu8T9N3MGtRk9elxHdngFmqNqYjA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VwVqOmJgY1R/6YwMymwVlIP1NJWa4rEMdtsp6Yn9tomp+vmKA/qQWzWCpaUxNYNSOnN7NiFBeTzcTjhXvweVL4gsetnTRcmeQ0Lq/y/13tQNy6RZ2KwNtPkvWdaqXGwxt01D0X7YPKP5mqWakLwCRt3pHcImG6WKdvSTJ93qfBQ=; X-YMail-OSG: DmhNfT4VM1n2C2ddlcYvrk_HxKfe62UFwzNF2w7bAcZ0d5c fCRC2HmzmvxvEj9jPjVR3j3VffRxWTOLAooaS3OqdsGWAsEPS2P4uVJQGML4 UEF30jxTx60ZmD0FjphDM8L5dMeR9d33u9JkV01cOYF3y3gCOJJB0avXrUh. .7AsYynE.o7xPgoCW4fwsO.enhdDNJCCdEIHkXvk8ZnqjVFVK6azH3bjVdhe dBo8TdpC4XVUFs_NX4iAvOb_BsL.sPvQ.if4UevEIXbv2gzbwNuRW_wYbRfD nOOWJ1IWuZany76oV_gcBolaUeBc2KboEJQKIdOUgVI85WmVR9cPvBiGp0vp sTDGX6SpKQepMKfrlwQhytEgl0uMPBeT52VDCcOm0QiRv9OA9LqMmDOg3CZp 7ORXyqyoMJD4p2O1DF7eqYHdHq8NANwe7qf_rmMUgIbH1tQ4mKBgNpBXJn6Y XrNaUr3FO.4iXTBnLuuFyIjhuJ9mUfhjjz1TYe9RKJObxEOO2BUh1vwYi1.Y f3O2EmtdgTh7RLta7wZ2PbChg7wUOFAcaKlu2p7COgPwI4idpTGhQWdEDK3R t8e2yaEY1AOiY3pRXyfglBObhsIPck0vZ.FRkgOk5rI3ZNs4z8I49g7TyX02 ewRZwe_OEtSM31eiGj0y.9GuF9vQx6538T3Xic9acQxnbW7Veq.py3pJwicS NwIbSKv2EWJ.t3Llk9SKoCcAwRHcGj54fX2Te8uGo69vQ3pbcSMSkRaSmLU4 ApitsRfEueJY2dsB8wx3.hivLd5Dpm1hVrJy2a7_PD7v6rXlfUc0V3tZNuhU y0BM3OZoGRaJ_EgDY3Br_GpZJhnMHZ2avjTSBuWg- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,R29zaCwgY29uc2lkZXJpbmcgVG9tbXkgSW9taSB0dW5lZCBoaXMgZ3VpdGFyIGRvd24gdG8gIkQiDQpUbyBhY2hpZXZlIGEgImhlYXZpZXIgc291bmQiLCB0cnlpbmcgNDMyIHNvdW5kcyB2ZXJ5IGludHJpZ3VpbmcuIEF0IGxlYXN0IGl0IHdvdWxkIHJlbGVhc2Ugc29tZSB0ZW5zaW9uIG9uIGhhcnAgc3RyaW5ncyBldGMuICBUaGlzIGRlc2VydmVzIGEgbGVuZ3RoeSBleHBlcmltZW50Lg0KUmlnCgoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KRnJvbTogUGVyIEJveXNlbiA8cGVyYm95c2VuQGcBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.460 References: <14F2D353E2256EF054F7F6C2@epi-pc372.epi.bris.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1352221767.78859.YahooMailNeo@web32508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 09:09:27 -0800 (PST) From: bill bigrig Reply-To: bill bigrig Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-709188601-1240476170-1352221767=:78859" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119037 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 17:09:29 +0000 (UTC) ---709188601-1240476170-1352221767=:78859 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gosh, considering Tommy Iomi tuned his guitar down to "D" To achieve a "heavier sound", trying 432 sounds very intriguing. At least i= t would release some tension on harp strings etc. This deserves a lengthy = experiment. Rig=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Per Boysen =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =0ASent: Tuesday, Nove= mber 6, 2012 7:58 AM=0ASubject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz?=0A=0AYes, I too= found all that superstition surrounding the topic. But that=0Ashouldn't st= op you from plugging in at 432 and listen if it really=0Asounds better. I p= roduced a recording once at 432 and did not notice=0Aany spiritual effects = except for the normal good vibe music tends to=0Abring. But I'd like to dea= l more with that global tuning before=0Aforming my opinion. After all it ha= s been the norm for a much longer=0Atime than the recent 440 pitch tuning a= nd some peoples say music=0Asounds with a better definition that way. Well = enough to at least make=0Ame curious.=0A=0AGreetings from Sweden=0A=0APer B= oysen=0Awww.perboysen.com=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/perboysen=0A=0A=0AOn Tue= , Nov 6, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Philip Conway=0A wro= te:=0A> That 'The Universal Mind' blog is scarily hilarious in David Icke k= ind of a=0A> way.=A0 Turns out 440hz comes from the Nazis!=A0 Other posts t= ell of alien=0A> invasions and so on.=A0 I hope I don't offend anyone if I = suggest that the=0A> whole spiritualist, frequency of the universe, Mayan c= alendar, planets=0A> aligning, horoscope-type stuff surrounding the 432hz d= ebate is ridiculous=0A> but it is an interesting aesthetic question.=A0 Don= 't think I've ever listened=0A> to music in that tuning, at least not knowi= ngly.=0A>=0A>=0A> Philip.=0A>=0A> --On 06 November 2012 11:21 +0100 Per Boy= sen wrote:=0A>=0A>> Yes, pretty interesting! All thos= e links target videos and if you want=0A>> to take in information faster, h= ere's a text page for a good=0A>> introduction:=0A>> http://the-universal-m= ind.blogspot.se/2008/11/back-to-432-hz.html=0A>>=0A>> This, as most players= in the 432 Hz debate, seems to refer to The=0A>> committee 'Back to 432 Hz= ', created by Dutch journalist Richard=0A>> Huisken in 2008:=0A>> http://ww= w.terugnaar432hz.org=0A>>=0A>> I haven't done much so far at 432 - not that= I've been aware of -=0A>> except for a choir music remix when the vocal re= cording files sent to=0A>> me turned out to be at 432 Hz. I tuned down my s= tudio to match that=0A>> but noticed no other effect than my alto flute bec= oming a bitch to=0A>> play that low (built for 440).=0A>>=0A>> One aspect o= f producing recordings with Apple Logic, that I'm fond of,=0A>> is that as = long as you stick with Logic's own virtual instruments (and=0A>> there are = more than in any other DAW package) you have instant access=0A>> to global = tuning options. These options not only let you tune down to=0A>> 432 (or an= y other pitch you might fancy) but also chose between a=0A>> couple of hund= red micro tonal tunings, called "fixed tunings" in Logic=0A>> because they = needs you to define a tonal center.=0A>>=0A>> I'm not always fond of having= a tonal center and then my personal=0A>> favorite for sequencing virtual i= nstruments in Logic is to use Hermode=0A>> Tuning of the kind that constant= ly analyzes the arrangement and=0A>> matches both thirds and fifths for the= purest harmony in any musical=0A>> situation. This means the thirds are no= t always the same - as in=0A>> Pythagorian tuning, referred to in those lin= ked videos - but changes=0A>> depending to what other notes happend to be s= ounding at any particular=0A>> moment. This is how often a choir or a strin= g ensemble learn to adapt=0A>> micro tuning within the performance of a mus= ical piece.=0A>>=0A>> I plan try out making an all electronic album project= some day in=0A>> Hermode (3+5 optimization) with the middle A at 432. It m= ust be big=0A>> chunk of music because if presented on air or any other pub= lic media=0A>> stream it will sound strange as all other music around are a= t 440 and=0A>> we tend to remember pitch for several minutes after having h= eard=0A>> music. So the playback setting must ensure that the listener is g= iven=0A>> the time needed to adjust.=0A>>=0A>> Greetings from Sweden=0A>>= =0A>> Per Boysen=0A>> www.perboysen.com=0A>> http://www.youtube.com/perboys= en=0A>>=0A>>=0A>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 5:55 AM, Jack Cattedra=0A>> wrote:=0A>>>=0A>>> Stumbled upon this topic rece= ntly and I find it very interesting. From my=0A>>> personal experience and = experimentation, I've found that I naturally=0A>>> tune my instruments to t= his frequency or a harmonic of it. Not to=0A>>> mention, songwriting just s= eems to flow so much easier this way, who=0A>>> knows. I don't like to inte= llectualize these types of things too much,=0A>>> but I figured I'd share t= hese links anyway. :)=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>> The Cosmic 432 - Part 1=0A>>>=0A>>>= https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjVATlX4XKMk=0A>>>=0A>>> The Cosmic 432 -= Part 2=0A>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DkUuyeor8f6Q=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>= >> Fred Cusinato: 432 Hertz Healing - Truth Connections Radio - 15th May=0A= >>> 2012 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGJTydBYVF4E=0A>>>=0A>>=0A>=0A>= =0A>=0A> ---709188601-1240476170-1352221767=:78859 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gosh, considering Tommy Iomi tuned his guitar down to "D"=0D
To achieve a "heavier sound", trying 432 sounds very intriguing.= At least it would release some tension on harp strings etc.  Thi= s deserves a lengthy experiment.=0D
Rig
<= div dir=3D"ltr" >
From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gm= ail.com>
To: Looper= s-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Se= nt: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 7:58 AM
Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz?
=

=0AYes, I too found all that superstition surrounding the topic= . But that
shouldn't stop you from plugging in at 432 and listen if it r= eally
sounds better. I produced a recording once at 432 and did not noti= ce
any spiritual effects except for the normal good vibe music tends to<= BR>bring. But I'd like to deal more with that global tuning before
formi= ng my opinion. After all it has been the norm for a much longer
time tha= n the recent 440 pitch tuning and some peoples say music
sounds with a b= etter definition that way. Well enough to at least make
me curious.
<= BR>Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.youtube.com/p= erboysen


On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Philip Conway
<Philip.Conway@bristol.ac.uk> wrote:
> That 'T= he Universal Mind' blog is scarily hilarious in David Icke kind of a
> way. = Turns out 440hz comes from the Nazis!  Other posts tell of alien
&= gt; invasions and so on.  I hope I don't offend anyone if I suggest th= at the
> whole spiritualist, frequency of the universe, Mayan calenda= r, planets
> aligning, horoscope-type stuff surrounding the 432hz deb= ate is ridiculous
> but it is an interesting aesthetic question. = ; Don't think I've ever listened
> to music in that tuning, at least = not knowingly.
>
>
> Philip.
>
> --On 06 Nove= mber 2012 11:21 +0100 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:<= BR>>
>> Yes, pretty interesting! All those links target videos = and if you want
>> to take in information faster, here's a text pa= ge for a good
>> introduction:
>> http://the-universal-mind.blogspot.se/2008/11/back-to-432-hz.html
>&= gt;
>> This, as most players in the 432 Hz debate, seems to refer = to The
>> committee 'Back to 432 Hz', created by Dutch journalist = Richard
>> Huisken in 2008:
>> http://www.terugnaar432hz.= org
>>
>> I haven't done much so far at 432 - not that I'= ve been aware of -
>> except for a choir music remix when the voca= l recording files sent to
>> me turned out to be at 432 Hz. I tune= d down my studio to match that
>> but noticed no other effect than= my alto flute becoming a bitch to
>> play that low (built for 440= ).
>>
>> One aspect of producing recordings with Apple Lo= gic, that I'm fond of,
>> is that as long as you stick with Logic'= s own virtual instruments (and
>> there are more than in any other= DAW package) you have instant access
>> to global tuning options. These options not only let you tune down to
>> 432 (or a= ny other pitch you might fancy) but also chose between a
>> couple= of hundred micro tonal tunings, called "fixed tunings" in Logic
>>= ; because they needs you to define a tonal center.
>>
>> = I'm not always fond of having a tonal center and then my personal
>&g= t; favorite for sequencing virtual instruments in Logic is to use Hermode>> Tuning of the kind that constantly analyzes the arrangement and<= BR>>> matches both thirds and fifths for the purest harmony in any mu= sical
>> situation. This means the thirds are not always the same = - as in
>> Pythagorian tuning, referred to in those linked videos = - but changes
>> depending to what other notes happend to be sound= ing at any particular
>> moment. This is how often a choir or a st= ring ensemble learn to adapt
>> micro tuning within the performance of a musical piece.
>>
>> I plan try out mak= ing an all electronic album project some day in
>> Hermode (3+5 op= timization) with the middle A at 432. It must be big
>> chunk of m= usic because if presented on air or any other public media
>> stre= am it will sound strange as all other music around are at 440 and
>&g= t; we tend to remember pitch for several minutes after having heard
>= > music. So the playback setting must ensure that the listener is given<= BR>>> the time needed to adjust.
>>
>> Greetings fr= om Sweden
>>
>> Per Boysen
>> www.perboysen.com<= BR>>> h= ttp://www.youtube.com/perboysen
>>
>>
>> On = Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 5:55 AM, Jack Cattedra
>> <the_beat_conductor@hotmail.= com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Stumbled upon this topic= recently and I find it very interesting. From my
>>> personal = experience and experimentation, I've found that I naturally
>>>= tune my instruments to this frequency or a harmonic of it. Not to
>&= gt;> mention, songwriting just seems to flow so much easier this way, wh= o
>>> knows. I don't like to intellectualize these types of thi= ngs too much,
>>> but I figured I'd share these links anyway. := )
>>>
>>>
>>> The Cosmic 432 - Part 1>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjVATlX4X= KMk
>>>
>>> The Cosmic 432 - Part 2
>>= > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DkUuyeor8f6Q
>>>
>= >>
>>> Fred Cusinato: 432 Hertz Healing - Truth Connectio= ns Radio - 15th May
>>> 2012 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D= GJTydBYVF4E
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>=



---709188601-1240476170-1352221767=:78859-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 6 18:01:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53CDD183464; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 18:01:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <50995073.4030509@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 12:01:23 -0600 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: eib halimski CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: RE: What Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/samplers/computers References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119038 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 18:01:30 +0000 (UTC) On 11/6/12 3:37 AM, eib halimski wrote: > Sounds good Rick. well like these guys, i used to have problems > syncing between loopers (especially when it's different brands). if > we're not using the edp to sync between loopers which i think is > overkill, the only solution is to practice, practice and practice. > plan your loops smartly in song compositions so that when the loops > starts to sound weird, mangle with it. I specifically designed the function RETRIGGER: CONTINUOUS to be able to re-sync, manually, so that people using loopers with live bands or even other loopers that don't support synchronization can play together. about the practice, practice, practice comment: I've always maintained in interviews that I've learned more about time and timing than playing with all the master drummers from different cultures that I've played with, allthe click tracks, sequencers and drum machines that I've played to over the years, combined! I've done many, many shows with my brother where I just used the judicious use of loop composition and a Line 6 DL-4 and it's clumsy retriggering abilities to make it appear that he and I were synced. Good luck, yours, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 6 21:28:26 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 419D0183478; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 21:28:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=3Fr0sx4SM5wU0rJzpFCm2RMPx16AOrmce7Q2BI3KILk=; b=dXYR/3UFvKiF00Px+aM5XeHzjBG6jGxS6+BLlX9z25/N4Jo0FUfvxN2Ry2DUfvJz79 6xZSkpGnHr6JXk/N8djC+bYbEnexKdDY8cgsx/j2Ha2Ka2Tu1WyOFF6sR8vydijyZ4e8 2/6FC6z8VpV6oBpPa8R6jNlc4OrYU0mvSX152PYIDdqz7UE1qEla1dkBowRwIP4HQzX0 cuoa1veIaPE5aIj8FzWfzdkKU5oKuSdRIx+NFDp9VwLGXLUAVs7dtV8GV+I7Ik7zpl62 ViWnoUagkbEyGPPDO0abGtIbQiOdH+z63mclDdngEPQ85j6/o+g2Lx9gZqUg5mdWlSUo n4kQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1352114079.57930.YahooMailNeo@web132206.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <1352114079.57930.YahooMailNeo@web132206.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 13:28:23 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Eigenharp Pico From: Todd Elliott To: "loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04071259243ca304cdda4849 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119039 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 21:28:25 +0000 (UTC) --f46d04071259243ca304cdda4849 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have (and use) a Tau as a midi controller, and have fiddled with a pico. They make fine MIDI controllers, depending on what you want to do. The keys are very sensitive, and I often end up writting little patches in MAX or Bidule to shut off or limit the bending of notes and so forth. T On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 3:14 AM, Antony Hequet wrote: > hello, > > back on the list with a new address. > > Looking into the Eigenharp Pico to use it as a MIDI controller for an LP1 > looper and other MIDI synths. Anyone have experience using the Pico as a > MIDI controller? > > Any other suggestions for a light wear on your body controller. I a a > singer, I need to move about as I do this looping thang. > > Best, > > Antony Hequet > poet composer > -- http://toaster.bandcamp.com --f46d04071259243ca304cdda4849 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have (and use) a Tau as a midi controller, and have fiddled with a pico. = They make fine MIDI controllers, depending on what you want to do. The keys= are very sensitive, and I often end up writting little patches in MAX or B= idule to shut off or limit the bending of notes and so forth.=A0

T

On Mon, Nov 5, 20= 12 at 3:14 AM, Antony Hequet <antony.hequet@yahoo.fr> w= rote:
hello,
back on the list with a new address.=A0

Looking into the Eigenharp Pico to use it as a MIDI controller for a= n LP1 looper and other MIDI synths. Anyone have experience using the Pico a= s a MIDI controller?
Any other suggestions for a light wear on your body controller. I a a singe= r, I need to move about as I do this looping thang.

Best,

Antony Hequet
poet composer



--
http://toaster.bandcamp.com
--f46d04071259243ca304cdda4849-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 6 21:29:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 834A7183466; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 21:29:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 818720062/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.189.110/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.189.110 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApIBAFeAmVBV0r1u/2dsb2JhbAANN8ZsAQEBBDhAEQsYCRYPCQMCAQIBRRwBiBGoFYMqkC8EjAODMIMlA5tTjVs X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,724,1344207600"; d="scan'208";a="818720062" Message-ID: <50998140.5070608@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 21:29:36 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8OHp9.A.YMH.3EYmQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119040 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 21:29:27 +0000 (UTC) I've got no idea whether 432Hz is a fundamental tone of the universe, and certainly support your use of it as such in your music. However there's just so much misinformation in the first few minutes of that video that I wondered if it was a spoof, or if the guy is deliberately lying for some reason. I don't think anything at all he said about the history of musical pitch was true. Incidentally, research on an ancient Confucian bell chime set points to the possibly even more mysterious frequency of 345Hz. ...could be a worth try? andy Jack Cattedra wrote: > Stumbled upon this topic recently and I find it very interesting. From > my personal experience and experimentation, I've found that I naturally > tune my instruments to this frequency or a harmonic of it. Not to > mention, songwriting just seems to flow so much easier this way, who > knows. I don't like to intellectualize these types of things too much, > but I figured I'd share these links anyway. :) > > > The Cosmic 432 - Part 1 > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVATlX4XKMk > > The Cosmic 432 - Part 2 > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUuyeor8f6Q > > > Fred Cusinato: 432 Hertz Healing - Truth Connections Radio - 15th May > 2012 > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJTydBYVF4E > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 6 23:18:14 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07F8918347B; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 23:18:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=77ZJSuYit4zOosbf+2lUuagW4kZy9K0ikBUS3fowKiA=; b=tL8Ggdo0fTpxNLdCxnS0b536dyVoh+N1PcMXTAvXnhyeVVfaigN+S/BjCxVLtB3vVu GWuOILWas2fGQbXmtq5+LNTamcBOJvyruw2ihJsAV8S1pGYTlaYzuW/n/PGth1a///MG cQ2IWU+xzRUncupIoIpvpI/UfrfOjBreLSr0GZeye1SwmUnS/nnGzaGK9RF7ACyO5cE1 sf3Q6EhYNe4TMe/ddXfKegWn4c3W42Iy/FD7QrtYqb0xSSVPB7ArbV4vqYc4FYGE6Weg p6wuXy2DRguiYbwdKeLswJg2NK/eTsf9uzkZ+6BpBxjRTqtIyj+0F55HCQScNFKomEFU uU9A== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <50998140.5070608@tiscali.co.uk> References: <50998140.5070608@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 00:18:12 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119041 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 23:18:13 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 10:29 PM, andy butler wrote: > I've got no idea whether 432Hz is a fundamental tone of the universe, > and certainly support your use of it as such in your music. I don't know either... but I made this experiment tonight to record a piece at A=432 Hermode tuning. To my ears it doesn't sound more "cosmic" due to the 432 Hz: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4963264/all_synths_tuned_432hz_hermode35.mp3 (The Hermode tuning is recognizable, I think, since there are lots of thirds and fifths en the stabbing synth lines. But that's "local tuning", not the "global tuning" this discussion is about) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 7 06:53:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24E19183464; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 06:53:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=0KJTiJjuEUMPQMGvEjUxNYvoMSzWKFmLRbPx5WkHs+k=; b=h1SlpL2hUtaDXKmJmOvL+8JlPobdWtkdVFN+ko92yMPSa0pt5WLvX+UqIHdNiFSo8z I2T68RV1FFlR5VZ1LaS1WcPteBTkQkGWm3eJrjbcNIHvRqfgqyIiW7cUS95lBAtHJqjk ACcmtnfbdPPoL7e94Egmyfk8gkKcmGkXeydRRONe0IhJr78jd424e89e2p8N5VrDqO4T 2quxcGPIp+u/sKguar9alT4HtbdvBWWTuNWYyfuDDrF3N9Y23uGcT33bD/dM1GO/vNSO fOIsU5sVvF5oAB9rZqG9ZC34V/PrZv4O19v5RTOZsV6rA1/WD2d/bIuPeOmAIXadprJm QUhw== From: mark francombe Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 07:53:30 +0100 Message-ID: <-450898635572528861@unknownmsgid> Subject: Congratulations To: loopers-delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119042 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 06:53:47 +0000 (UTC) Gratulerer til alle min American Friends. Thank fuck for that result. The world breaths a sigh of relief! Mark Sent from my (advertisement removed) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 7 07:23:02 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48D74183478; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 07:23:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=faPopI2mHaCdtLsDYp0wmDHpRLl/3IjzAnuUJ9H0OiY=; b=JybEMY00jJ88becBn5zh7CsG2A9oXzdDVUCAgiTUGk6J2W/0NvqgcMNGU60Gond3ph XB9UgeHizv7MxOXODADwzc5xd0L06zCJDn7o08G0VWG7UMWm1lnM9yuPkQXH8KXUiONX WqKg7O8gdEyz4IxL4a3cPE5V95PfhV6Q66RBv46F/TmJd3druNM3xasgvwbT208b1VZx LzGyDaDdXVSx+iFyuW+FJVZAAR1+xniH4A6S7lsl1iQUDaKE30w6dE6aixvvyHiQKcrv PET9E1L5JO06Vie5AKLSIHsyRnKhP/6q91L4tYl97VUF+ZjzBcAcXjAj0GxdYmT3bmiL r1Jw== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? From: Christopher Darrow In-Reply-To: <50998140.5070608@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 23:22:57 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <230D10E8-71AE-4166-AFB2-65631A8A3F1A@gmail.com> References: <50998140.5070608@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119043 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 07:23:02 +0000 (UTC) > I've got no idea whether 432Hz is a fundamental tone of the universe, > and certainly support your use of it as such in your music. > Incidentally, research on an ancient Confucian bell chime set > points to the possibly even more mysterious frequency of 345Hz. >=20 > ...could be a worth try? I love these responses. Especially the "and [ I ] certainly support your = use of it as such in your music" part, coming, as it does, with full = knowledge of misinformation to the point of spooftom.=20 On Nov 6, 2012, at 1:29 PM, andy butler wrote: >=20 > I've got no idea whether 432Hz is a fundamental tone of the universe, > and certainly support your use of it as such in your music. >=20 > However there's just so much misinformation in the first > few minutes of that video that I wondered if it was a spoof, > or if the guy is deliberately lying for some reason. > I don't think anything at all he said about the history > of musical pitch was true. >=20 > Incidentally, research on an ancient Confucian bell chime set > points to the possibly even more mysterious frequency of 345Hz. >=20 > ...could be a worth try? >=20 >=20 > andy >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Jack Cattedra wrote: >> Stumbled upon this topic recently and I find it very interesting. = =46rom my personal experience and experimentation, I've found that I = naturally tune my instruments to this frequency or a harmonic of it. Not = to mention, songwriting just seems to flow so much easier this way, who = knows. I don't like to intellectualize these types of things too much, = but I figured I'd share these links anyway. :) >> The Cosmic 432 - Part 1 = >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjVATlX4XKMk >> The Cosmic 432 - Part 2 = >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DkUuyeor8f6Q >> Fred Cusinato: 432 Hertz Healing - Truth Connections Radio - 15th May = 2012 >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGJTydBYVF4E >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 7 07:51:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0706183478; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 07:51:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 710162.79897.bm@omp1027.mail.ird.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1352274685; bh=a0DY7CvEZkCoqI0TI18Kc/id+ED7PokE+DZygAKeHmg=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UBPeNzS+bo+3+c956jYltUCEipkn+weBz0hDq32e2urk/3Rot/HhuL9tTcg4j79bN3Gg7W0/yZuCy/Fjm1FPLPodJxzraDLXP+GjBCaXofXIoz1dlcS2NfKeztencaNO7Hq8to9OToONmn3xQ0wAOHOpGGxYc2zcfohw7PTyQZI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yTmGc8h7M1De7/DAbUgt41i7qkpMywUeOaYyvXdavNhq4eaMC4gTQ24rFgrgmIu36j4F07GYNuiHjetcTLlleCkfkSv01C6D5Tpqvq+/h3X/pqQOm5Yf13Ck2YOM0T3ZF8pUrpXfl12Ity5YeaNwg98/cS1EP+oyY2TlQGgBIqk=; X-YMail-OSG: 1gMKaXwVM1n_xdDH7mShDjM0akLEkhL8ra.PD57jM1m2FNI HO6seq5AVneN.n6.u9bK26l06Z3NAFR.4fCtQ30RCARyHtMprQlttGmqVcd6 l10yJnoGVDmTlStUEsEZMAKtc6kzWVk_yOaaAkgamfFLHTh29.pUdCiF09ok EiJQ1R_1qQzudGrmqT4rdAEUTREGiT08wBwcVmZpySPV83izhzWowsZkCVOy V.h.mOVyplBom7dOOrLTP2TGR5vip86fqNWmyArClx8XaU.SP5qdQLnzrFTX d1czD0GESfNFUjZORsDxSq9p1_R.lhwsXAKel1cjWHnWbSr7hp.uLIhBgwF7 DQZN9.zFO9nZ0P_ET7l.98B7d4d_WDo7slxI3_zjQWeV2nT4piRXw3nKRd7E fSDbV8.pWdtJ6nw8pXOdhQZBZyZUeoDe0HFqCTkKZsA12TLwPQDKw6ZuzoXR 6FcW.P206luZoXSxSZNgt5W.eMS7p2Q-- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,d2VsbCBJIGp1bXBlZCBpbiBhbmQgZ290IGEgUGljbyBiYXNlZCBvbiB0aGUgZmVlZGJhY2sgSSBnb3QgZnJvbSBFaWdlbmxhYnMuIENlcnRhaW5seSB0aGUgcGljby90YXUgcHJvZHVjZSBtb3JlIGRhdGEgdGhhbiBtaWRpIGNhbiBoYW5kbGUgdW5kZXIgbW9zdCBjaXJjdW1zdGFuY2VzCgpBbnRvbnkgSGVxdWV0CnBvZXQgY29tcG9zZXIKCgoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KIERlwqA6IFRvZGQgRWxsaW90dCA8dG9kZGJlcnRAZ21haWwuY29tPgrDgMKgOiAibG9vcGVycy1kZWxpZ2gBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.460 References: <1352114079.57930.YahooMailNeo@web132206.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1352274684.7878.YahooMailNeo@web132203.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 07:51:24 +0000 (GMT) From: Antony Hequet Reply-To: Antony Hequet Subject: Re: Eigenharp Pico To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-598658673-2095195846-1352274684=:7878" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119044 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 07:51:27 +0000 (UTC) ---598658673-2095195846-1352274684=:7878 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable well I jumped in and got a Pico based on the feedback I got from Eigenlabs.= Certainly the pico/tau produce more data than midi can handle under most c= ircumstances=0A=0AAntony Hequet=0Apoet composer=0A=0A=0A=0A________________= ________________=0A De=A0: Todd Elliott =0A=C0=A0: "loo= pers-delight@loopers-delight.com" =0A= Envoy=E9 le : Mardi 6 novembre 2012 22h28=0AObjet=A0: Re: Eigenharp Pico=0A= =0A=0AI have (and use) a Tau as a midi controller, and have fiddled with a= pico. They make fine MIDI controllers, depending on what you want to do. T= he keys are very sensitive, and I often end up writting little patches in M= AX or Bidule to shut off or limit the bending of notes and so forth.=A0=0A= =0AT=0A=0A=0AOn Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 3:14 AM, Antony Hequet wrote:=0A=0Ahello,=0A>=0A>=0A>back on the list with a new address.= =A0=0A>=0A>=0A>Looking into the Eigenharp Pico to use it as a MIDI controll= er for an LP1 looper and other MIDI synths. Anyone have experience using th= e Pico as a MIDI controller?=0A>=0A>=0A>Any other suggestions for a light w= ear on your body controller. I a a singer, I need to move about as I do thi= s looping thang.=0A>=0A>=0A>Best,=0A>=0A>=0A>Antony Hequet=0A>poet composer= =0A=0A=0A-- =0Ahttp://toaster.bandcamp.com ---598658673-2095195846-1352274684=:7878 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
well I jumped in and got a Pico based on the feedback I got from Eigenlab= s. Certainly the pico/tau produce more data than midi can handle under most= circumstances

poet composer

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De : Todd Elliott <toddbert@gmail.com>
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Envoy=E9 le : Mardi 6 novembre 2012 2= 2h28
Objet : Re: = Eigenharp Pico

I have (and use) a Tau as a= midi controller, and have fiddled with a pico. They make fine MIDI control= lers, depending on what you want to do. The keys are very sensitive, and I = often end up writting little patches in MAX or Bidule to shut off or limit the bending of notes = and so forth. 
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On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 3:14 AM, Antony Hequet <antony.hequet@ya= hoo.fr> wrote:
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hello,

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ba= ck on the list with a new address. 
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Looking in= to the Eigenharp Pico to use it as a MIDI controller for an LP1 looper and = other MIDI synths. Anyone have experience using the Pico as a MIDI controll= er?
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=0AAny other suggestions for a light wear on yo= ur body controller. I a a singer, I need to move about as I do this looping= thang.
=0A
Best,
=0A
Antony Hequet=
=0Apoet composer



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---598658673-2095195846-1352274684=:7878-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 7 08:50:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B0A2183475; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 08:50:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=7Q6dwJfGhHv/92yzl8leracIFVTHjWPO2FQVZHZ4HcQ=; b=UEukl+vXY9ehPhFnzHbRAaqKp+WcvKgprQP+2b2uJBDq9b73d440ewZstei7mBfINW OHESxDvQJKsV9EiqI95PXkTNLyBWm1qyXeKg6mAKrNWI17OEh+ftaIhm6TUcolpH5XGn 5GohjLUk44I2vAx83j11zj0awN8WS0/9S415TBz/+zspVAWA+5gGweIk/hjbzq0lx209 a53wgHoIu2eBBwlq1C02TlouU809Zs8M7C6e0n1yNw6/H7XBMC0EcpiwUwFELRZJugAs D1aI8s2NmRrj/dlxMzlsdf/fzTg69hiKCWE9VBW50LMUMl8DYz64BQLwRwOuAixFAFg2 jmmw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <-450898635572528861@unknownmsgid> References: <-450898635572528861@unknownmsgid> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 09:50:14 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Congratulations From: Per Boysen To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d041826309e6dc104cde3ce35 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119045 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 08:50:15 +0000 (UTC) --f46d041826309e6dc104cde3ce35 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Yes, that was nice. On Wednesday, November 7, 2012, mark francombe wrote: > Gratulerer til alle min American Friends. Thank fuck for that result. > The world breaths a sigh of relief! > > Mark > > Sent from my (advertisement removed) > > -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen --f46d041826309e6dc104cde3ce35 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes, that was nice.

On Wednesday, November 7, 2012, mark franco= mbe wrote:
Gratulerer til alle min Ameri= can Friends. =C2=A0Thank fuck for that result.
The world breaths a sigh of relief!

Mark

Sent from my (advertisement removed)



--
Greetings from Sweden
Per Boysen
www.p= erboysen.com
http://www.youtube.com/perboysen

--f46d041826309e6dc104cde3ce35-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 7 08:53:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6508118347A; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 08:53:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=RJL90CDhp5tIJnOvwRoMPaJqmqox5Uh4loPhZ4N29mKbgawzyfxeyIA2vN0tUwqg; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <-450898635572528861@unknownmsgid> References: <-450898635572528861@unknownmsgid> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 03:50:02 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Congratulations Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec799ed3d06c7103b9c1f3592b8a2cbb0a9d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119046 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 08:53:08 +0000 (UTC) Fuck YES!!! >Gratulerer til alle min American Friends. Thank fuck for that result. >The world breaths a sigh of relief! > >Mark > >Sent from my (advertisement removed) -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 7 09:46:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6400618347B; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 09:46:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_1289ddce-e3e3-472c-9f22-3c5ba4fb8885_" X-Originating-IP: [184.145.20.52] From: Jack Cattedra To: Subject: RE: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 09:46:19 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <14F2D353E2256EF054F7F6C2@epi-pc372.epi.bris.ac.uk> References: ,,<14F2D353E2256EF054F7F6C2@epi-pc372.epi.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2012 09:46:20.0973 (UTC) FILETIME=[BDF235D0:01CDBCCC] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119047 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 09:46:22 +0000 (UTC) --_1289ddce-e3e3-472c-9f22-3c5ba4fb8885_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A lot of people forget that "spirituality" is an inner path=2C and what bet= ter way to navigate that path than with music. There is a lot of bullshit f= loating around these days about all this 2012 yahoo nonsense=2C which ultim= ately proves nothing more than believing in your self. If 432 Hz feels righ= t to you=2C then do it. Once again=2C there are no rules...except majority = =3B) Per=2C that track was nice. :) > Date: Tue=2C 6 Nov 2012 15:41:44 +0000 > From: Philip.Conway@bristol.ac.uk > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? >=20 > I hope I don't offend anyone if I suggest that the=20 > whole spiritualist=2C frequency of the universe=2C Mayan calendar=2C plan= ets=20 > aligning=2C horoscope-type stuff surrounding the 432hz debate is ridiculo= us=20 > but it is an interesting aesthetic question. Don't think I've ever=20 > listened to music in that tuning=2C at least not knowingly. >=20 >=20 > Philip. >=20 = --_1289ddce-e3e3-472c-9f22-3c5ba4fb8885_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A lot of people forget that "spirituality" is an inner path=2C and what bet= ter way to navigate that path than with music. There is a lot of bullshit f= loating around these days about all this 2012 yahoo nonsense=2C which ultim= ately proves nothing more than believing in your self. If 432 Hz feels righ= t to you=2C then do it. Once again=2C there are no rules...except majority = =3B)



Per=2C that track was nice. :)

>=3B Date: Tue=2C 6 Nov 2012 15:41:44 +0000
= >=3B From: Philip.Conway@bristol.ac.uk
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loop= ers-delight.com
>=3B Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz?
>=3B >=3B I hope I don't offend anyone if I suggest that the
>=3B whol= e spiritualist=2C frequency of the universe=2C Mayan calendar=2C planets >=3B aligning=2C horoscope-type stuff surrounding the 432hz debate is r= idiculous
>=3B but it is an interesting aesthetic question. Don't th= ink I've ever
>=3B listened to music in that tuning=2C at least not k= nowingly.
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B Philip.
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= --_1289ddce-e3e3-472c-9f22-3c5ba4fb8885_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 7 12:08:48 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A646183482; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 12:08:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_1a83d561-6a4c-43ee-9890-ce23d0e3c46c_" X-Originating-IP: [217.92.117.212] From: Sergio Girardi Sender: To: Subject: RE: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 13:08:47 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <50998140.5070608@tiscali.co.uk> References: ,<50998140.5070608@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2012 12:08:47.0311 (UTC) FILETIME=[A3F5E5F0:01CDBCE0] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119048 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 12:08:48 +0000 (UTC) --_1a83d561-6a4c-43ee-9890-ce23d0e3c46c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok=2C just my 2 cents.I am NOT a fan of new age and I for example refused t= o watch or read "The Secret" or "The Celestine Profecy"=2C even if I enjoye= d some thing of "What the Bleep do we know".But I have lived for 6 years in= a spiritual community following a person which I considered Master (not Go= d=2C not perfect=2C not mistake_proof=2C just Master as any other Master=2C= =3D someone who can teach things which he for first has learned and is abl= e to practice).I have not a precise idea of what is true and what is not=2C= but as I changed idea too many times in my life=2C even when I was 101% su= re that I was right=2C now I try to keep a sort of "don't know=2C maybe" at= titude.What I remember is that my Master also said once that the human is c= hanging and that the Planet is changing and that for this reason also the w= ay we respond to frequencies is different.Sincerely=2C I was a terribly dis= tracted student so I have not paid attention to the matter but this is what= I remember.So=2C my understanding is that the more we evolve=2C the more w= e need a higher frequency.This would mean that neither 440 or 432 are the a= bsolute universal whatever=2C and that Confucio was right in his age probab= ly. I have no idea if this is true or not=2C nor how and why it happens=2C and = I am sharing it here not as a truth but as a possibility which can be nice = to think about. Ser > Date: Tue=2C 6 Nov 2012 21:29:36 +0000 > From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? >=20 >=20 > I've got no idea whether 432Hz is a fundamental tone of the universe=2C > and certainly support your use of it as such in your music. >=20 > However there's just so much misinformation in the first > few minutes of that video that I wondered if it was a spoof=2C > or if the guy is deliberately lying for some reason. > I don't think anything at all he said about the history > of musical pitch was true. >=20 > Incidentally=2C research on an ancient Confucian bell chime set > points to the possibly even more mysterious frequency=20 > of 345Hz. >=20 > ....could be a worth try? >=20 >=20 > andy >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Jack Cattedra wrote: > > Stumbled upon this topic recently and I find it very interesting. From= =20 > > my personal experience and experimentation=2C I've found that I natural= ly=20 > > tune my instruments to this frequency or a harmonic of it. Not to=20 > > mention=2C songwriting just seems to flow so much easier this way=2C wh= o=20 > > knows. I don't like to intellectualize these types of things too much= =2C=20 > > but I figured I'd share these links anyway. :) > >=20 > >=20 > > The Cosmic 432 - Part 1 > >=20 > >=20 > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjVATlX4XKMk > >=20 > > The Cosmic 432 - Part 2 > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DkUuyeor8f6Q > >=20 > >=20 > > Fred Cusinato: 432 Hertz Healing - Truth Connections Radio - 15th May=20 > > 2012 > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGJTydBYVF4E > >=20 >=20 = --_1a83d561-6a4c-43ee-9890-ce23d0e3c46c_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ok=2C just my 2 cents.
I am NOT a fan of new age and I for example refu= sed to watch or read "The Secret" or "The Celestine Profecy"=2C even if I e= njoyed some thing of "What the Bleep do we know".
But I have live= d for 6 years in a spiritual community following a person which I considere= d Master (not God=2C not perfect=2C not mistake_proof=2C just Master as any= other Master=2C =3D someone who can teach things which he for first has le= arned and is able to practice).
I have not a precise idea of what= is true and what is not=2C but as I changed idea too many times in my life= =2C even when I was 101% sure that I was right=2C now I try to keep a sort = of "don't know=2C maybe" attitude.
What I remember is that my Mas= ter also said once that the human is changing and that the Planet is changi= ng and that for this reason also the way we respond to frequencies is diffe= rent.
Sincerely=2C I was a terribly distracted student so I have = not paid attention to the matter but this is what I remember.
So= =2C my understanding is that the more we evolve=2C the more we need a highe= r frequency.
This would mean that neither 440 or 432 are the abso= lute universal whatever=2C and that Confucio was right in his age probably.=

I have no idea if this is true or not=2C nor how = and why it happens=2C and I am sharing it here not as a truth but as a poss= ibility which can be nice to think about.

Ser

>=3B Date: Tue=2C 6 = Nov 2012 21:29:36 +0000
>=3B From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk
>=3B To= : Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz O= R 432 Hz?
>=3B
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>=3B I've got no idea whether 432Hz is= a fundamental tone of the universe=2C
>=3B and certainly support your= use of it as such in your music.
>=3B
>=3B However there's just= so much misinformation in the first
>=3B few minutes of that video th= at I wondered if it was a spoof=2C
>=3B or if the guy is deliberately = lying for some reason.
>=3B I don't think anything at all he said abou= t the history
>=3B of musical pitch was true.
>=3B
>=3B Inc= identally=2C research on an ancient Confucian bell chime set
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>=3B Jack Cattedra wr= ote:
>=3B >=3B Stumbled upon this topic recently and I find it very = interesting. From
>=3B >=3B my personal experience and experimentat= ion=2C I've found that I naturally
>=3B >=3B tune my instruments to= this frequency or a harmonic of it. Not to
>=3B >=3B mention=2C so= ngwriting just seems to flow so much easier this way=2C who
>=3B >= =3B knows. I don't like to intellectualize these types of things too much= =2C
>=3B >=3B but I figured I'd share these links anyway. :)
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dW90ZT48L2JvZHk+PC9odG1sPg== --Apple-Mail-638E0C83-C2E2-4B46-B73D-958143930E13-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 7 13:41:32 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5527183482; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 13:41:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_7c978855-4c66-4a54-854b-3235626e3939_" X-Originating-IP: [184.145.20.52] From: Jack Cattedra To: Subject: RE: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 13:41:30 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,<50998140.5070608@tiscali.co.uk>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2012 13:41:31.0017 (UTC) FILETIME=[98300F90:01CDBCED] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119050 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 13:41:32 +0000 (UTC) --_7c978855-4c66-4a54-854b-3235626e3939_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable wow=2C that's actually interesting. makes me wonder... a lot of us tend to look for "the way" to do something= =2C when in actuality=2C there are many ways in existence to do things. I'v= e learned from experience that subscribing to an individual who makes drast= ic claims should be treaded softly=2C as all information should be question= ed anyway. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DMT_nuwm252I From: simpliflying@gmail.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? Date: Wed=2C 7 Nov 2012 13:08:47 +0100 Ok=2C just my 2 cents.I am NOT a fan of new age and I for example refused t= o watch or read "The Secret" or "The Celestine Profecy"=2C even if I enjoye= d some thing of "What the Bleep do we know".But I have lived for 6 years in= a spiritual community following a person which I considered Master (not Go= d=2C not perfect=2C not mistake_proof=2C just Master as any other Master=2C= =3D someone who can teach things which he for first has learned and is abl= e to practice).I have not a precise idea of what is true and what is not=2C= but as I changed idea too many times in my life=2C even when I was 101% su= re that I was right=2C now I try to keep a sort of "don't know=2C maybe" at= titude.What I remember is that my Master also said once that the human is c= hanging and that the Planet is changing and that for this reason also the w= ay we respond to frequencies is different.Sincerely=2C I was a terribly dis= tracted student so I have not paid attention to the matter but this is what= I remember.So=2C my understanding is that the more we evolve=2C the more w= e need a higher frequency.This would mean that neither 440 or 432 are the a= bsolute universal whatever=2C and that Confucio was right in his age probab= ly. I have no idea if this is true or not=2C nor how and why it happens=2C and = I am sharing it here not as a truth but as a possibility which can be nice = to think about. Ser > Date: Tue=2C 6 Nov 2012 21:29:36 +0000 > From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? >=20 >=20 > I've got no idea whether 432Hz is a fundamental tone of the universe=2C > and certainly support your use of it as such in your music. >=20 > However there's just so much misinformation in the first > few minutes of that video that I wondered if it was a spoof=2C > or if the guy is deliberately lying for some reason. > I don't think anything at all he said about the history > of musical pitch was true. >=20 > Incidentally=2C research on an ancient Confucian bell chime set > points to the possibly even more mysterious frequency=20 > of 345Hz. >=20 > ....could be a worth try? >=20 >=20 > andy >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Jack Cattedra wrote: > > Stumbled upon this topic recently and I find it very interesting. From= =20 > > my personal experience and experimentation=2C I've found that I natural= ly=20 > > tune my instruments to this frequency or a harmonic of it. Not to=20 > > mention=2C songwriting just seems to flow so much easier this way=2C wh= o=20 > > knows. I don't like to intellectualize these types of things too much= =2C=20 > > but I figured I'd share these links anyway. :) > >=20 > >=20 > > The Cosmic 432 - Part 1 > >=20 > >=20 > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjVATlX4XKMk > >=20 > > The Cosmic 432 - Part 2 > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DkUuyeor8f6Q > >=20 > >=20 > > Fred Cusinato: 432 Hertz Healing - Truth Connections Radio - 15th May=20 > > 2012 > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGJTydBYVF4E > >=20 >=20 = --_7c978855-4c66-4a54-854b-3235626e3939_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
wow=2C that's actually interesting.

makes me wonder... a lot of us t= end to look for "the way" to do something=2C when in actuality=2C there are= many ways in existence to do things. I've learned from experience that sub= scribing to an individual who makes drastic claims should be treaded softly= =2C as all information should be questioned anyway.


https://www.= youtube.com/watch?v=3DMT_nuwm252I

From: simpliflying@gmail.com
To: looper= s-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz?
Da= te: Wed=2C 7 Nov 2012 13:08:47 +0100

Ok=2C just my 2 cents.
I am NOT a fan of new age and I for example refu= sed to watch or read "The Secret" or "The Celestine Profecy"=2C even if I e= njoyed some thing of "What the Bleep do we know".
But I have live= d for 6 years in a spiritual community following a person which I considere= d Master (not God=2C not perfect=2C not mistake_proof=2C just Master as any= other Master=2C =3D someone who can teach things which he for first has le= arned and is able to practice).
I have not a precise idea of what= is true and what is not=2C but as I changed idea too many times in my life= =2C even when I was 101% sure that I was right=2C now I try to keep a sort = of "don't know=2C maybe" attitude.
What I remember is that my Mas= ter also said once that the human is changing and that the Planet is changi= ng and that for this reason also the way we respond to frequencies is diffe= rent.
Sincerely=2C I was a terribly distracted student so I have = not paid attention to the matter but this is what I remember.
So= =2C my understanding is that the more we evolve=2C the more we need a highe= r frequency.
This would mean that neither 440 or 432 are the abso= lute universal whatever=2C and that Confucio was right in his age probably.=

I have no idea if this is true or not=2C nor how = and why it happens=2C and I am sharing it here not as a truth but as a poss= ibility which can be nice to think about.

Ser

>=3B Date: Tue=2C= 6 Nov 2012 21:29:36 +0000
>=3B From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk
>=3B= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B Subject: Re: A =3D 440 H= z OR 432 Hz?
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>=3B I've got no idea whether 432Hz= is a fundamental tone of the universe=2C
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Air force 1, and a chartered jet picking up the Bin-Laden family= to fly them out of the country. Not to cast any blame, they did not approv= e of Osama for the most part. Had they remained, it's a lead-pipe-cinch the= y would have had to deal with murder. The whole thing in Iraq was a money p= it for Halliburton. Say what you want about Cheneys "blind trust", its stil= l extremely likely. I have worked with Halliburton people many times and th= e tales they tell of sneaking around government regulations are creative in= deed. But, like David Byrnes of Talking Heads said, "same as it ever was". Rig=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: kelly maxwell =0ATo: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" =0ASent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 5:32 AM=0ASubje= ct: Re: Congratulations=0A=0A=0AI am so relieved, y'all know that 12 years = ago everyone went to sleep election night ithinking we kept that last stupi= d cowboy out of office, heard a lil victory speach, and sure enough, when w= oke up it was fucked up, bush had stolen the presidency. =C2=A0in my book, = Romney was almost as retarded as gdub. =C2=A0Seriously, I was too scared to= look at results all night last night. =C2=A0There are a lot if people, eve= n close people to me, that vote for a name, or a cowboy, or even an actor t= hat did movies with a monkey. I believe there is also tremendous closet rac= ism here, and a lot if that is the reason this retarded (lying)candidate wa= s even close in points to Obama. We were super duped on 911, Cheney and Rum= sfeld are demonic cocksuckers that pulled the wool over our eyes after maki= ng us believe we were attacked by outsiders (hindsight shows us that hundre= ds of coincidences, bah. U know what I'm saying. Less than 2 years before 9= 11, we had a wonderful golfer on a private jet(Payne Stewart), leaving a golf tourney, =C2=A0they lost cabin = pressure, and autopilot kept them flying, they were all asleep or dead from= lack of oxygen, 4 people on board a small jet, we send up 2 fighters and f= ollow it from south to north where it crashes after running out if fuel. On= 911 we have 4 giant passenger jets with quite a few people on board each p= lane, and we don't send up the jets. Bush was on a monthlong vacation(yes, = he couldn't tell a dirty joke in the bathroom without screwing it up), that= means Cheney gave the stand down order to our fighters(ready to be in the = air in less than 15 minutes) so that the pentagon could be struck by one of= the last planes still in the air, destroying the computers that held the e= vidence of where the $3 trillion went, that Rumsfeld reported missing the d= ay before. And of course bush gave a fine speech, but he also had 3 weeks o= f practice for it too. Sorry about getting long winded, I am just so relieved at the outcome if this election... I have zero faith in republica= n party, they are ignorant of our feelings and livelihood, they are arrogan= t, greedy, oil loving war mongers, and I don't believe they give one feelin= g to anyone other than their cronies. There is a song by John S. Hall of th= e band King Missile, he says it best in his song entitled America Kicks Ass= .=C2=A0 =E2=96=BA=C2=A03:12=E2=96=BA=C2=A03:12. Give it a watch on YouTube.= Peace !!!!!=0ASent from my iPhone=0A=0AOn Nov 7, 2012, at 1:53 AM, "Charle= s Zwicky" wrote:=0A=0A=0AFuck YES!!!=0A>=0A>=0A>Gr= atulerer til alle min American Friends. =C2=A0Thank fuck for that result.= =0A>>=0A>The world breaths a sigh of relief!=0A>>=0A>=0A>>=0A>Mark=0A>>=0A>= =0A>>=0A>Sent from my (advertisement removed)=0A>>=0A>=0A>-- =0A>=0A>...=0A= >http://www.zmix.net=0A>=0A>http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky=0A>=0A>http= ://albumcredits.com/zmix=0A>=0A> --1662753009-217099128-1352296989=:8058 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Let us not forget that there were only 2 airplanes, (non-military in the ai= r on 9/11. Air force 1, and a chartered jet picking up the Bin-Laden family= to fly them out of the country. Not to cast any blame, they did not approv= e of Osama for the most part. Had they remained, it's a lead-pipe-cinch= they would have had to deal with murder. The whole thing in Iraq was a mon= ey pit for Halliburton. Say what you want about Cheneys "blind trust&q= uot;, its still extremely likely. I have worked with Halliburton people man= y times and the tales they tell of sneaking around government regulations a= re creative indeed. But, like David Byrnes of Talking Heads said, "sam= e as it ever was".=0D
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On Nov 7, 2012, at 1:53 AM, "Charles Zwicky" = <cazwicky@earthlink.net&= gt; wrote:

Fuc= k YES!!!

Gratule= rer til alle min American Friends.  Thank fuck for that result.=
The world breaths a sigh o= f relief!
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--1662753009-217099128-1352296989=:8058-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 7 14:08:09 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E0D69183494; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 14:08:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ZQpDJk7d+t7VAmXRIoGQ/wNx0dW8tOJ1vz7btRGwL78=; b=q1fH9Zs73K8CsH7W+88R82vgYx09qLkZlJRndIVOp2tIO8AqOmS67XED0rN92QErMD CCthfgwmtfWQracGWOl69xUsOvopQhrvmWAANmGDKWW2omJESdla0KBDptXBCNc4Euo2 aSjZgjaADA9O0vdT9ILbrJRc1aW88YRgqXfbk07JOr456j+JEm7pCDMNHtVZVPjd+2vr pfRw46+tIOhLg2nAybTOwuJ8WExQpTbnuhvY7mrTYEsi6bU0A4AQqTiDFWPFaXF24prI gZ/PLskA1ROPStDz05xfnU4v7gGu9rYCsNtnQnsSXLgFkVAwACCtrZR3FAGRhrKchlwd 1Vmw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 15:08:07 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Researching micro tunings "hands-on" (was: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz?) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119052 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 14:08:08 +0000 (UTC) I think I ought to put a new subject line to this post, because I'm leaving the 440 vs 432 discussion. But that thread inspired me to do a little hands-on experimenting with different micro tunings. I wrote that Hermode 3+5 tuning was a favorit and fact is I once got a great vibe tuning up a sampled grand piano that way to play along with it on tenor sax. The point with Hermode is that it is "floating", adapts to the music in order to save as much purity as possible regarding what note intervals happen to play at the same time. In the computer music world this is possible if using a DAW that offers global analysis and control over all virtual instruments being used in a piece. But now, when I mocked up this synth intensive test music piece I only found Hermode to sound lame "without much personality". A much more expressive performance took place when playing back the piece with the full instrumentation playing tuned according to South Indian Vina. I also like the somewhat harsch sounding Siamese Tuning (pretty close to Tibetian Cermonial that I also liked, but Siames sounds more "mental", in an exciting way). Here are the three links if someone wants to check out the differences: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4963264/all_synths_tuned_432hz_siamese_tuning.mp3 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4963264/all_synths_tuned_432hz_south_indian_vina.mp3 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4963264/all_synths_tuned_432hz_hermode35.mp3 It's amazing how quick your listening adapts to micro tunings that are so different! And it also amazes me how much the emotional (or "inner cinematic") differs between these tunings. These three examples are from Logic's micro tuning library, it is quite big but lacking "far out stuff". So I'm adding a fourth link to a synth piece I made earlier with Alchemy's internal Burmesian micro tuning. But Alchemy doesn't allow the user to set a root note for the key so my guess is that all micro tunings of Alchemy only works in the traditionally correct way if playing in C... which I did not (maybe that's why I liked it?). http://soundcloud.com/pboy/multidimensional Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 7 15:26:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89D81183479; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 15:26:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 407767.19890.bm@omp1051.mail.bf1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1352301989; bh=zQZrb/JIqODTMzKLjFiq4f0CFGuWX/IxKYO+jWMeyqY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=37ZyXlW4JTKQcwyVxhR2G9TEJ3MdXvkaNo9cp93IdOX3jWxfAGfcuwVSTnOAxNXbZXYykeQG6zn6GOWTm2a8S8IxpVe3T5sGQ/ofBIRtxgrLOiF4IBOhyqvoM9/e4OI9Xg/Y0HHB1o0sZA7jibzY5O8aJgWEjNhWIXaMwBdlXAU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qWEAGaWD5gZ45hDwyZxDpAMlup+ILHP6+ErLiFgbjq4Q74gvra70ioEwf+RpYSGipr1I++Sh8rahCaDBCZDa8tsTe1CrRCXbf0tyT2FrMBwbZM53p5Y6ijyyoB4jMF2sk6sgz0DNuihfgzhK1ZYmtWQUB2icLxbK1EsdQKuu7x4=; X-YMail-OSG: V2kz2KcVM1nKHEqFHHHomR4Z3ivrhQuQ6M3mkzzOfIftRVd BJLCTrjAjxgewAP8z0IeK71xHGdPXI7r0cofBF1Mbo.hg_y0NBFNM5Mb1S94 g8TFmpNd23RbzwZMCtWTOY1VS.ejfLmE3GRG9bcUmOrmCDolpiGW3.29m0DE 9PxsCcKTW8r8hp68xXz973uEFQ7eFSs3MywCn35nFM_r1Wbi0WmxMRhKIv9g QAti9r5.pZzQonZONrjhJpnTW8gyiwf1Ql7kPINT6j6wHEewHH_itVYotojc LWcOmgOnUAdtzZJ2OzF13Tu.lo8Ko.uWT_jHg5cT6CLB7_E3Ch0ACG3gzLvA LQkL4D3fgBdN_8kSyMi1xQyI8NHXk0X425O0KzU0z0jTCyachy_0qZvhGrW8 5jGNDZYOQ5M2RqG_MbU3IgpcaSdpwaHeSjuUGw2ya_KqqrhLLRi7410B3QeF 3gYCGTaouujDz38QYhPzd86KUEFh.sJgojoFRLSZZ7YJsJhFD6A-- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,wqAKSSBkb24ndCB0aGluayBJJ3ZlIHNlZW4gaXQgbWVudGlvbmVkIGhlcmUgYnV0IHRoZSBuZXcgR3VpdGFyIFBsYXllciAod2l0aCBFYXJsIFNsaWNrIG9uIHRoZSBjb3ZlcikgaGFzIGEgbmljZSBwaWVjZSBieSBCYXJyeSBDbGV2ZWxhbmQgb24gdGhlIG5ldyBSaWNrIFdhbGtlci9FcmRlbSBIZWx2YWNpb2dsdSByZWNvcmRpbmcuLi4KwqAKwqAKwqAKdGhlIG90aGVyIHRlZC4uLgoKT3Igd291bGQgeW91IHNpbmcgc29tZXRoaW4nIGRpZmZlcmVudC4gU29tZXRoaW4nIHJlYWwuIFNvbWV0aGluJyAqeW91KiABMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.460 Message-ID: <1352301989.97630.YahooMailNeo@web162902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 07:26:29 -0800 (PST) From: ditch wrestler Reply-To: ditch wrestler Subject: loopers in the news To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="1114306876-1378043558-1352301989=:97630" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119053 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 15:26:30 +0000 (UTC) --1114306876-1378043558-1352301989=:97630 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0=0AI don't think I've seen it mentioned here but the new Guitar Player (= with Earl Slick on the cover) has a nice piece by Barry Cleveland on the ne= w Rick Walker/Erdem Helvacioglu recording...=0A=A0=0A=A0=0A=A0=0Athe other = ted...=0A=0AOr would you sing somethin' different. Somethin' real. Somethin= ' *you* felt. Cause I'm telling you right now, that's the kind of song peop= le want to hear. That's the kind of song that truly saves people. It ain't = got nothin to do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with believi= n' in yourself. Sam Phillips, "Walk the Line" --1114306876-1378043558-1352301989=:97630 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I don't think I've seen it mentioned here but the new G= uitar Player (with Earl Slick on the cover) has a nice piece by Barry Cleve= land on the new Rick Walker/Erdem Helvacioglu recording...
 
 
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Or= would you sing somethin' different. Somethin' real. Somethin' *you* felt. = Cause I'm telling you right now, that's the kind of song people want to hea= r. That's the kind of song that truly saves people. It ain't got nothin to = do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with believin' in yourself= . Sam Phillips, "Walk the Line"
--1114306876-1378043558-1352301989=:97630-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 7 15:39:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3225E183489; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 15:39:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Z9FvqeaeCZZ3vNqtGByR+w)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8185,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-11-06_05:2012-11-06,2012-11-06,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1211070130 Subject: Re: loopers in the news From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: <1352301989.97630.YahooMailNeo@web162902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 07:38:44 -0800 Cc: Loopers Delight Message-id: <65AF6443-C1C5-4800-9CA3-6697EFCB5DC8@mac.com> References: <1352301989.97630.YahooMailNeo@web162902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> To: ditch wrestler X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Resent-Message-ID: <-ezhg.A.N_H.bComQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119054 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 15:39:08 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_Z9FvqeaeCZZ3vNqtGByR+w) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > Rick Walker/Erdem Helvacioglu\ Corrrection! Thats Bill Walker, not Rick, Congratulations Bill! Its a great article and a wonderful recording. Now, everyone go buy a copy! Cheers Daniel On Nov 7, 2012, at 7:26 AM, ditch wrestler wrote: > > I don't think I've seen it mentioned here but the new Guitar Player (with Earl Slick on the cover) has a nice piece by Barry Cleveland on the new Rick Walker/Erdem Helvacioglu recording... > > > > the other ted... > > Or would you sing somethin' different. Somethin' real. Somethin' *you* felt. Cause I'm telling you right now, that's the kind of song people want to hear. That's the kind of song that truly saves people. It ain't got nothin to do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with believin' in yourself. Sam Phillips, "Walk the Line" --Boundary_(ID_Z9FvqeaeCZZ3vNqtGByR+w) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
 Rick = Walker/Erdem = Helvacioglu\

Corrrection! =  Thats Bill Walker, not Rick,  Congratulations Bill!  Its = a great article and a wonderful recording.  Now, everyone go buy a = copy! =  

Cheers
Daniel
On Nov = 7, 2012, at 7:26 AM, ditch wrestler <ditchwrestler@yahoo.com> = wrote:

 
I don't think I've seen = it mentioned here but the new Guitar Player (with Earl Slick on the = cover) has a nice piece by Barry Cleveland on the new Rick Walker/Erdem = Helvacioglu = recording...
 
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the other = ted...
 
Or would you sing somethin' = different. Somethin' real. Somethin' *you* felt. Cause I'm telling you = right now, that's the kind of song people want to hear. That's the kind = of song that truly saves people. It ain't got nothin to do with = believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with believin' in yourself. = Sam Phillips, "Walk the = Line"

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From: Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com>;
To: ditch wrestler <ditchwrestler@yahoo.com>;
Cc: Loopers Delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>;
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 Rick Walker/Erdem Helvacioglu\

Corrrection!  Thats Bill Walker, not Rick,  Congratulations Bill!  Its a great article and a wonderful recording.  Now, everyone go buy a copy!  

Cheers
Daniel
On Nov 7, 2012, at 7:26 AM, ditch wrestler <ditchwrestler@yahoo.com> wrote:

 
I don't think I've seen it mentioned here but the new Guitar Player (with Earl Slick on the cover) has a nice piece by Barry Cleveland on the new Rick Walker/Erdem Helvacioglu recording...
 
 
 
the other ted...
 
Or would you sing somethin' different. Somethin' real. Somethin' *you* felt. Cause I'm telling you right now, that's the kind of song people want to hear. That's the kind of song that truly saves people. It ain't got nothin to do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with believin' in yourself. Sam Phillips, "Walk the Line"
--234730655-471559743-1352305378=:76347-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 7 16:25:11 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B84CB18347F; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 16:25:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 852106.11114.bm@omp1037.mail.bf1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1352305510; bh=AqSi6bJV9ZAdYoRWErOMohbEjhYC/8Z0gSxCuD1KhDg=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MuB+WUP9GTk6taJcvILq8wh/SrKfhvgvD6XSObGDYKmG7KdG1m6owjGhFDwO+fmzB3XTkUlxHShlaFfwxTFAFaNwDtbue/9QM/LnwGFPkFYML7Dl/L1zvyqdHp1JzRfP50Ryw6PYs2OGl7UldBdwb9VPM82iEe33hHN9DqfsAJQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=j7UxLN7rnEOrQTcFOug4H87mn7CQsDvx3DyetKD8WY0tfHCgZw+HKA02oCwubc2dpzp5Lx/ZzfSTbzYvqe51EXQFuct32s96FOeILO5QG1QLWjeHYDMsptZ22sumxCk7TtP8h+7CZO6sG45t404pB29grN0p48BmHeRmnQUwmyw=; X-YMail-OSG: ofSqp2MVM1nz408vBF3fwvzl8j30BZOKEUIgtKu4U5M3s8u 5hjoMmeuJT7sKrWEiqMSW1QPVE5CR3rx5cAvChxzSacXkh_tCD3hk6aDGsIa ySgMuxmfgpPRXNd8uaBQcMF2s41NCK.EfncAI9ZXEYZHFAzTf0u9m7bIyqTK mueP4iXnAMceY7MeO3M5hr78NUKQBk8wWGqaFZ.ZDLc2p..uqvZDfdshQ.4b TDfDXZJKy2TzS2aMd3kNMQGXQr6FXFeIco7MEQeBA78BNXY.MmfhtvU6S2c9 Ik.tHxNeVujzak8TcVsfvUw5rP_aEuStFBcorbCCMhnnVRQgX092s1VQ8iXC _qx34Ln4QXqwpe7is60TNG2_L6Eqvc9oHr5J_SDoyy2OGsuEfIwxKUGGlzRC EdsR9mA_mq2jdzdrNSmwEs9nQ9QSDpy30M0ScIxgX7xtDtC705p_npQNgBnQ xrXDzEgWlEAG56uxRbrYIi0aYEHR4GymVI.ljH7OKIfDAn7GzZyVpySpVAxc - X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,CkkgYW0gbG9va2luZyBmb3IgYSBsb29wZXIuIENoZWNrZWQgZUJheS4gTWVoLiBBbnkgYXZhaWxhYmxlIGZyb20gdGhpcyBhdWd1c3QgZ3JvdXA_CgpSZWdhcmRzLCBQYXVsCgpTZW50IGZyb20gWWFob28hIE1haWwgb24gQW5kcm9pZAoKATABAQEB X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.460 Message-ID: <1352305510.56599.androidMobile@web161403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 08:25:10 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Richards Subject: Anyone selling a Looper? To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="234730655-2053807346-1352305510=:56599" Resent-Message-ID: <7Eqd_D.A.hn.ntomQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119056 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 16:25:11 +0000 (UTC) --234730655-2053807346-1352305510=:56599 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am looking for a looper. Checked eBay. Meh. Any available from this august group? Regards, Paul Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android --234730655-2053807346-1352305510=:56599 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii


I am looking for a looper. Checked eBay. Meh. Any available from this august group?

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--234730655-2053807346-1352305510=:56599-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 7 16:27:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E71918348B; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 16:27:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=QUcohxqge6FSXmXuEs5W0OsXj29RejzcyPJyjXmpfdI=; b=phGYl5ikmV4WlYLdx/RFV35ISVjeutNLMvE+se5zQr/sJqNvHph1VisDrgoXpvncCe Igdf3wPbSVwyO+JlLreJzjmDAet3eKekTDvqs42zH4xKNRrJHIu+ptXiLA6bgYBMAA3M Vo3LvngOWj5WBxhchaLNDw1MuLh/aOBbrbfRxuahURlTElxncVC22cRPO5KAk1okEORf uYu8f+619HNwM+JaC7vAg3zGmZJusfW/37IoULgdaUi6LThRWFWiUMbJ3TgjyAVKkTEf 9Hm9GNdkO9sZS1JjuIVbKDywlR7Hy0GwgClTzkLbGoQY/vhHr12WGO0IXJU9QMUKuTs6 1WUA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1352305510.56599.androidMobile@web161403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1352305510.56599.androidMobile@web161403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 11:26:46 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Anyone selling a Looper? To: "Looper's Delight" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f5039aaba022104cdea31f6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119057 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 16:27:28 +0000 (UTC) --e89a8f5039aaba022104cdea31f6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've got a Jamman or two and an Oberheim or two=85 On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Paul Richards wrote: > > I am looking for a looper. Checked eBay. Meh. Any available from this > august group? > > Regards, Paul > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 *The Best Classical Music of the Year, 2011* - Amazon.com =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever music is sold. Here's a direct link to Amazon, however! --e89a8f5039aaba022104cdea31f6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've got a Jamman or two and an Oberheim or two=85=A0


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--e89a8f5039aaba022104cdea31f6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 7 16:38:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77E2018348F; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 16:38:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 301 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 16:38:05 UTC Message-ID: <509A8D4C.3060604@soaringspider.com> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 11:33:16 -0500 From: "D. Webb" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? References: ,<50998140.5070608@tiscali.co.uk>, In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000108070604050705070302" X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:ml/5lMi7xcIu97d/swU+DIfiY+SKPBr5s4W4sholQ9f mnr1jsVKQibpXJ1isT8ycbWy0tjKZWeFiK0jVSxL0SXTYmcf5g ZM2aNXbXXZlg0m5Oe0O5oRrJB4VkAQuqt27orIhi88wLv193We N1oOd0hBbXAZYB6+CGPrCrop080gCntjKnjozhgvYryWFEsWUL u6xcSBhprC6x4RRxzyAmXZFnp0JCp+JhvRa/CvuQPTEjuxgnAe jTJgR44M5LD4MxnKm8+yXFgYnHf8Q0Z+urTbUqYMp8oXaA/FDU CwLv31rKew1E9G3QrOegSaCGubaouxPspFLPpJCEeMmoKSEKOT 5bq7y0tddD/BUPj5yC2A= Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119058 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 16:38:06 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000108070604050705070302 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit According to my research, (440 - 432) / 440 = .018181818... Since the repeating digit pairs each add to 9 this indicates that there have been 2 digits transposed somewhere, as any accountant can tell you. Now (440 - 432) / 432 equals .0185185185... Since the repeating digit triplets each add to 14, the digits of which add to 5, and since 5 + 5 = 10, which is the base of the numerical system we are using, then each 2 digits that have been transposed cost us a dime. Either way, we have an infinitely repeating decimal, which means that either one should be equally at home in a looping situation. The relative equality of either frequency's adaptability to looping is further enhanced by noting these relationships: * 440 / (440 - 432) = 55, thus enhancing the repetition of 5 * 432 / (440 - 432) = 54, the digits of which add to 9 - enough said! As for calculations involving the sum of 440 and 432, that I leave as an exercise for the reader. Happy digitizing. dw --------------000108070604050705070302 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit According to my research, (440 - 432) / 440 = .018181818...  Since the repeating digit pairs each add to 9 this indicates that there have been 2 digits transposed somewhere, as any accountant can tell you.

Now (440 - 432) / 432 equals .0185185185...  Since the repeating digit triplets each add to 14, the digits of which add to 5, and since 5 + 5 = 10, which is the base of the numerical system we are using, then each 2 digits that have been transposed cost us a dime.

Either way, we have an infinitely repeating decimal, which means that either one should be equally at home in a looping situation.

The relative equality of either frequency's adaptability to looping is further enhanced by noting these relationships:
  • 440 / (440 - 432) = 55, thus enhancing the repetition of 5
  • 432 / (440 - 432) = 54, the digits of which add to 9 - enough said!

As for calculations involving the sum of 440 and 432, that I leave as an exercise for the reader.

Happy digitizing.

dw

--------------000108070604050705070302-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 7 16:46:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA150183491; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 16:46:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=IKClPeTf3yChJwXjs7XGl2Icb3jcIVtqY3KSrBeEAts=; b=ZemhdavLuanoOT/ZDD0gP9mO0xNFdFGw+BOZABula7pacH4G4ewT+qyPJt74+k/oa2 elyIuqdZf/zyx1wkkOa6jHP5w4s91GR5tanC1C6q60ZJEg3sTID0xR1LtbJcFeIZ8k8J F8bngnRXwDLNIU309/cbxgZVEYvkMrSJaSQC9SSrdpmUaz0zIorms9kfouZ1UYqgX/Mr smA26cS/HFsed41FO65F8nA5dq1yfBDYWfaby2uuyUqUiE8CHeQH9ny7SG2uB1Q4lHW+ ZYJYlwngElw6bVHIxkeCgkA658ayhNLi3S9nHYyvZ3yyLowJYR1OPYtI8d4/Kiat8DRL Bu6Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <509A8D4C.3060604@soaringspider.com> References: <50998140.5070608@tiscali.co.uk> <509A8D4C.3060604@soaringspider.com> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 17:46:18 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119059 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 16:46:20 +0000 (UTC) ...and? What's the point? Does this math have any musical relevance? Does it sound sexy? Does it sound spiritual? Does 432 evoke other emotions compared to 440 by the same piece being performed? Research into those fields would also be interesting to hear about. :-) Per On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 5:33 PM, D. Webb wrote: > According to my research, (440 - 432) / 440 = .018181818... Since the > repeating digit pairs each add to 9 this indicates that there have been 2 > digits transposed somewhere, as any accountant can tell you. > > Now (440 - 432) / 432 equals .0185185185... Since the repeating digit > triplets each add to 14, the digits of which add to 5, and since 5 + 5 = 10, > which is the base of the numerical system we are using, then each 2 digits > that have been transposed cost us a dime. > > Either way, we have an infinitely repeating decimal, which means that either > one should be equally at home in a looping situation. > > The relative equality of either frequency's adaptability to looping is > further enhanced by noting these relationships: > > 440 / (440 - 432) = 55, thus enhancing the repetition of 5 > 432 / (440 - 432) = 54, the digits of which add to 9 - enough said! > > As for calculations involving the sum of 440 and 432, that I leave as an > exercise for the reader. > > Happy digitizing. > > dw From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 7 16:46:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C0D8183498; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 16:46:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_bb0db661-e791-4d6d-8c3f-004825edcd20_" X-Originating-IP: [217.92.117.212] From: Sergio Girardi Sender: To: Subject: RE: Anyone selling a Looper? Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 17:46:20 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <1352305510.56599.androidMobile@web161403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1352305510.56599.androidMobile@web161403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2012 16:46:20.0715 (UTC) FILETIME=[6A29AFB0:01CDBD07] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119060 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 16:46:22 +0000 (UTC) --_bb0db661-e791-4d6d-8c3f-004825edcd20_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am selling a Boomerang III in "as new" conditions=2C almost never used. B= ut if you live in the US it would not be a deal for you as you can get it c= heap there new.Where are you located? I am in Germany. Ser Date: Wed=2C 7 Nov 2012 08:25:10 -0800 From: paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com Subject: Anyone selling a Looper?=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com I am looking for a looper. Checked eBay. Meh. Any available from this augus= t group? Regards=2C Paul Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android = --_bb0db661-e791-4d6d-8c3f-004825edcd20_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am selling a Boomerang III in "as new" conditions=2C almost never used. B= ut if you live in the US it would not be a deal for you as you can get it c= heap there new.
Where are you located? I am in Germany.

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Date: Wed=2C 7 Nov 2012 08:25:10 -0800
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I am looking for a looper. Checked eBay. Meh. Any available from this augus= t group?
Regards=2C Paul


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= --_bb0db661-e791-4d6d-8c3f-004825edcd20_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 7 17:17:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 81ABC183491; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 17:17:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 750850.8599.bm@omp1036.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1352308658; bh=a0qRZJ6Mw54CMrD2QBJzXsGJ57Tzl/Jf80xkagGRR5Y=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=om8bpHFEKcG2e8fOSReMfkWb1pi8LydFv0rtSN4tnx1lmLYDcJQN1PM8H5qRkRDk3uPbgIxati557FNkJfNBFLUdIhthu0SoZIk05L4V3EMwAFH7sw0iI5Ce+/NTRVAXkCD6uPItZ2ud9QlAkY2X13PYhlZ0Cktsy8kdMPhB+B8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IfreQDzp69zxki3+aKKAlfxyzlJMqKLUndb88e68H3vNomLfxmTXR2dI4XvEQnjZ93xdXBFB0kuYB2m8vXizQf4oNZOe2/MOWsS7Elag02F7mHkWIiw27fvfYKEftHaGPTYwCr5ghmwkH50GSCi0PLmfq08uq5yA0ymP7mmW0d4=; X-YMail-OSG: sEcE0K8VM1lUuJVPHCV8kyi6QPbXeQGpmDtlkqSt.6MzBjo aRPafck5vj9aRu05LEiLLIxncmEQ0Jb7cCR9QXqguzg8E0O1S2wm.bgPrXBW Z8SShDLLvMVjheeimkWHTCT77fY0c5AsWZxt2Za0xNNiZjI3glS5DftUb432 qWFivUw5LxEDD8OzByRLIoxlx.zns0mUyuLknjreMtTtTBBL7vLNkvS.i4Z9 N59jPvdALni0wztfJ4wg4WSPVfaf3Q4Tjc3.pxYoWurXI6IMSbye9NJg0q6j AuM6XEj3Hah5EZ5q_Gg0.Du_IK4D1cJoGtJldIbBnN0yRJ_B9ihK6myt_JoS p25wMCCpqTm7L4n9W6r_4mDApPtQNunbeYe97Dx0RuYiUr7.wrku3KGD0kDZ IDvt8rmUnYIg1s52hBuU0HQ5RCyvMVExzIjZjjpQdc6JJSpMkpUGpQwX19cl ElKYH.BWMJPycFq7V4JmrWsjsCEsOU3zLWDwxYCc3WPgZdbGl4WjHZpQVGTh E.RjQ0PSX2SWw4791H2KmNABbEx101gxGcoFibG8xsGEJ5u4Y7poXaCDOc77 0ORho8wXWjZOuSAQtvMjejfJf7Mn7GpK8a3wDX60qXgAv2wchI13Ydt.MUKv xd8OeePak7YDr3EXvXhqXesGfGnF3fz1R3LwnwZDvtWTxTGy25a2oeseuDrS sWDOU X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,WWFoIGJveSEhISBVcCBoZXJlIGluIHRoZSAiUGFjaWZpYyBOb3J0aHdlc3QiJyB0aGUgIndlZWQiIHF1ZXN0aW9uIHdhcyByZXNvdW5kaW5nbHkgYXBwcm92ZWQuIE1ha2VzIG1lIGtpbmQgb2YgaGFwcHkgdGhhdCBJIGRpZCBhbmQgc3RpbGwgZG8sIGxpdmUgaW4gdGhlICJFdmVyZ3JlZW4gU3RhdGUiLiBOYXR1cmFsbHkgImxlZ2FsIiBkb2VzIG5vdCBtZWFuIHRoYXQgSSBjYW4gYmxvdyBvZmYgZHJ1ZyB0ZXN0aW5nIGF0IHdvcmssIG9uIHRoZSBkZXNlcnQgc2lkZSBvZiB0aGUgQ2FzY2FkZSBNb3VudGFpbnMBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.460 References: <-450898635572528861@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <1352308658.45772.YahooMailNeo@web32502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 09:17:38 -0800 (PST) From: bill bigrig Reply-To: bill bigrig Subject: Re: Congratulations To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-820900331-615697737-1352308658=:45772" Resent-Message-ID: <953Tj.A.phB.0epmQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119061 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 17:17:40 +0000 (UTC) ---820900331-615697737-1352308658=:45772 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yah boy!!! Up here in the "Pacific Northwest"' the "weed" question was reso= undingly approved. Makes me kind of happy that I did and still do, live in = the "Evergreen State". Naturally "legal" does not mean that I can blow off = drug testing at work, on the desert side of the Cascade Mountains there is = a significantly greater % of "dittoheads". Send us the Feds! When they come= to bust our chops over "weed", we'll get them all jacked up at StarBucks, = then show them what "trickle down" actually means! Naturally, they can go e= ast back across the mountains where the desert will dry them off. We can pu= t them out at the Hanford Plutonium factories for a "microwave enhanced" qu= ick dry. Rig, out.=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Charles= Zwicky =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com = =0ASent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 12:50 AM=0ASubject: Re: Congratulation= s=0A=0AFuck YES!!!=0A=0A>Gratulerer til alle min American Friends.=A0 Thank= fuck for that result.=0A>The world breaths a sigh of relief!=0A>=0A>Mark= =0A>=0A>Sent from my (advertisement removed)=0A=0A=0A-- =0A=0A...=0Ahttp://= www.zmix.net=0A=0Ahttp://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky=0A=0Ahttp://albumcred= its.com/zmix ---820900331-615697737-1352308658=:45772 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yah boy!!! Up here in the "Pacific Northwest"' the "weed= " question was resoundingly approved. Makes me kind of happy that I di= d and still do, live in the "Evergreen State". Naturally "le= gal" does not mean that I can blow off drug testing at work, on the de= sert side of the Cascade Mountains there is a significantly greater % of &q= uot;dittoheads". Send us the Feds! When they come to bust our chops ov= er "weed", we'll get them all jacked up at StarBucks, then sh= ow them what "trickle down" actually means! Naturally, they can g= o east back across the mountains where the desert will dry them off. We can= put them out at the Hanford Plutonium factories for a "microwave enha= nced" quick dry. Rig, out.
From: Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@ear= thlink.net>
To: Loo= pers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 12:50 AM
Subject: Re: Congratulations
=

=0AFuck YES!!!

>Gratulerer til alle min American Frie= nds.  Thank fuck for that result.
>The world breaths a sigh of r= elief!
>
>Mark
>
>Sent from my (advertisement remov= ed)


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---820900331-615697737-1352308658=:45772-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 7 18:01:14 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF12B18348A; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 18:01:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_8a51f733-3a28-4eda-b41a-6861cf2e38eb_" X-Originating-IP: [174.255.162.123] From: Jeremy devros To: Subject: RE: Anyone selling a Looper? Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 10:01:12 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <1352305510.56599.androidMobile@web161403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1352305510.56599.androidMobile@web161403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2012 18:01:12.0385 (UTC) FILETIME=[DF682310:01CDBD11] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119062 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 18:01:13 +0000 (UTC) --_8a51f733-3a28-4eda-b41a-6861cf2e38eb_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have an RC 50 I am selling for $225. Let me know if this works for you. Date: Wed=2C 7 Nov 2012 08:25:10 -0800 From: paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com Subject: Anyone selling a Looper?=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com I am looking for a looper. Checked eBay. Meh. Any available from this augus= t group? Regards=2C Paul Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android = --_8a51f733-3a28-4eda-b41a-6861cf2e38eb_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have an RC 50 I am selling for= $225. Let me know if this works for you.

Date:=3B Wed=2C 7 N= ov 2012 08:=3B25:=3B10 -0800
From:=3B paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.c= om
Subject:=3B Anyone selling a Looper?
To:=3B Loopers-Delight= @loopers-delight.com


I am looking for a looper. Checked eBay. Meh. Any available from this augus= t group?
Regards=2C Paul


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= --_8a51f733-3a28-4eda-b41a-6861cf2e38eb_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 7 19:30:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0EDBA183478; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 19:30:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48a0f6d7757c13ea76b239da638b6d15.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <20121107162512.4975318348F@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20121107162512.4975318348F@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 11:30:27 -0800 Subject: Re: Loopers in the news From: billwalker@baymoon.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119063 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 19:30:29 +0000 (UTC) Yes thats right, its Bill.......... That name mistake issue has been going on for Rick and I since we were little kids so don't give it a second thought Dutch :-) and thanks for the shout out regardless. Yes our CD is finally out, both in download and physical form (CD baby). I am very happy with how it sounds. Erdem and I have been collaborating since I visited him in 2008, hopefully we will also release the sessions from Istanbul as well as an all acoustic set that features my acoustic lap steel guitar, Erdem's viol-guitar, and lots of prepared acoustic timbres. Thanks Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 7 19:34:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F34C18347A; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 19:34:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 488 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 19:34:36 UTC References: <1352305510.56599.androidMobile@web161403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: <1352305510.56599.androidMobile@web161403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-7280824B-37CD-4C0F-8EC9-CD883E9A0AC6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <22DDB4CE-4C1B-4334-9F7B-5F634775CF05@grubmah.com> Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10A523) From: Mark Hamburg Subject: Re: Anyone selling a Looper? Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 11:26:26 -0800 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119064 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 19:34:37 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-7280824B-37CD-4C0F-8EC9-CD883E9A0AC6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I could sell you an EDP with footpedal for whatever the going rate is on eBa= y. I could probably be persuaded to sell both of mine. Mark On Nov 7, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Paul Richards wrot= e: >=20 >=20 > I am looking for a looper. Checked eBay. Meh. Any available from this augu= st group? >=20 > Regards, Paul >=20 >=20 > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android --Apple-Mail-7280824B-37CD-4C0F-8EC9-CD883E9A0AC6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I could sell you an EDP with footpedal for whatever the going rate is on eBay. I could probably be persuaded to sell both of mine.

Mark

On Nov 7, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Paul Richards <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com> wrote:


I am looking for a looper. Checked eBay. Meh. Any available from this august group?

Regards, Paul

Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android

--Apple-Mail-7280824B-37CD-4C0F-8EC9-CD883E9A0AC6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 7 20:11:32 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C515183475; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 20:11:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 360 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 20:11:31 UTC X-Authenticated-User: scafferata.sasktel.net Subject: Wanted: Boomerang 3 From: Shayne Cafferata Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) Message-Id: <92A23DE6-BCF5-47C8-BE8E-A526DA752A78@sasktel.net> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 14:05:30 -0600 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=1.1 cv=SC8I91PGDvvJlUFuD6Ljy4BHk4oUc+jmsJcrTH+4kMM= c=1 sm=1 a=YxfxW3ofkq8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=JleMBPP+DDCY0kaI/Z+NVg==:17 a=Df7fb8exoZgAZ-nuVhQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=JleMBPP+DDCY0kaI/Z+NVg==:117 X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020208.509ABF07.001E,ss=1,re=0.000,recu=0.000,reip=0.000,cl=1,cld=1,fgs=0 Resent-Message-ID: <8soHj.A.STD.0BsmQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119065 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 20:11:32 +0000 (UTC) Any have one for sale? 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Somethin' real. Somethin' *you* felt. Cause I'm tellin= g you right now, that's the kind of song people want to hear. That's the ki= nd of song that truly saves people. It ain't got nothin to do with believin= ' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with believin' in yourself. Sam Phillips= , "Walk the Line"=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Daniel = Thomas =0ATo: ditch wrestler =0ACc: Loopers Delight =0ASent: Wed= nesday, November 7, 2012 10:37:20 AM=0ASubject: Re: loopers in the news=0A = =0A=0A=A0Rick Walker/Erdem HelvaciogluCorrection, Thats Bill Walker. =A0Not= Rick.=0A=0AAnd congratulations Bill! Its a wonderful article and a great a= lbum -- =A0now everyone go buy the music =A0:)=0A=0ADaniel=0A=0AOn Nov 7, 2= 012, at 7:26 AM, ditch wrestler wrote:=0A=0A=A0= =0A>I don't think I've seen it mentioned here but the new Guitar Player (wi= th Earl Slick on the cover) has a nice piece by Barry Cleveland on the new = Rick Walker/Erdem Helvacioglu recording...=0A>=A0=0A>=A0=0A>=A0=0A>the othe= r ted...=0A>=A0=0A>Or would you sing somethin' different. Somethin' real. S= omethin' *you* felt. Cause I'm telling you right now, that's the kind of so= ng people want to hear. That's the kind of song that truly saves people. It= ain't got nothin to do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with = believin' in yourself. Sam Phillips, "Walk the Line" ---476738056-2005695095-1352321773=:85103 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

My humblest apolo= gies to all - hopefully this hasn't resurrected the famed Walker Bros. feud= ...  ;-)


ted<= br>
 
Or would you sing somethin' different= . Somethin' real. Somethin' *you* felt. Cause I'm telling you right now, th= at's the kind of song people want to hear. That's the kind of song that tru= ly saves people. It ain't got nothin to do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash.= It has to do with believin' in yourself. Sam Phillips, "Walk the Line"
From: Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@me.com>
To: ditch wrestler <ditchwrestler@yahoo.com&g= t;
Cc: Loopers Delight= <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 10:37:20 AM
<= b>Subject: Re: loopers in the= news

 Rick = Walker/Erdem Helvacioglu
Correction, Thats Bill Wal= ker.  Not Rick.

And congratulations Bill! Its a won= derful article and a great album --  now everyone go buy the music  :)

Daniel
On Nov 7, 2012, at 7:26 AM, ditch wres= tler <ditchwrestler@yahoo.= com> wrote:

 
I don't think I've seen it mentio= ned here but the new Guitar Player (with Earl Slick on the cover) has a nic= e piece by Barry Cleveland on the new Rick Walker/Erdem Helvacioglu recordi= ng...
 
 
 
the other ted...
 
Or would you sing somethin' different. Somethin' real. Somethin' *you* felt. Cause I'm telling you right now, that's the kind of = song people want to hear. That's the kind of song that truly saves people. = It ain't got nothin to do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do wit= h believin' in yourself. Sam Phillips, "Walk the Line"



---476738056-2005695095-1352321773=:85103-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 7 21:15:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 945AC183475; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 21:15:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <1352308658.45772.YahooMailNeo@web32502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <-450898635572528861@unknownmsgid> <1352308658.45772.YahooMailNeo@web32502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <9EA69705-1F7A-4DBA-8D26-EFB411ACE61F@ubergadget.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Revfever Subject: Re: Congratulations Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 13:15:33 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119067 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 21:15:43 +0000 (UTC) On Nov 7, 2012, at 9:17 AM, bill bigrig wrote: > Yah boy!!! Up here in the "Pacific Northwest"' the "weed" question > was resoundingly approved. Makes me kind of happy that I did and > still do, live in the "Evergreen State". Naturally "legal" does not > mean that I can blow off drug testing at work, on the desert side > of the Cascade Mountains there is a significantly greater % of > "dittoheads". Send us the Feds! When they come to bust our chops > over "weed", we'll get them all jacked up at StarBucks, then show > them what "trickle down" actually means! Naturally, they can go > east back across the mountains where the desert will dry them off. > We can put them out at the Hanford Plutonium factories for a > "microwave enhanced" quick dry. Rig, out. Personal Soap Box Dept.- The issue of marijuana being voted for legalization at the STATE level is definitely a good thing and way far better than Prohibition ever dreamed of being, but there still remains the LONG time issue and problem at the FEDERAL level where it ridiculously remains, and after around *7O years* at least, as being considered a Schedule One / Class A Narcotic, right along with heroin and cocaine, which of course is totally ABSURD and NOT based on anything other that just having an "excuse" to keep it illegal. One (there are others...) major hypocrisy to all of this is that there has also always been a Federal TAX on marijuana, and a tax that if it was paid to the Federal gov't, suddenly and "magically" it made it "OK" to possess weed (aka-"narcotic") to the Feds...UNTIL the STATE itself came AFTER someone for being in violation of state laws prohibiting it's possession, and use, and of course, sales. Catch 22! Anyone see any hypocrisy here? Naw. Not a chance of that, right? Pfft! This will be one of several challenges to Obama who has said in the past that he is NOT in favor of legalization. Will he now have a different opinion and view on that or will he turn against States Rights in this matter? It remains to be seen what he does, or maybe he'll just finally tell his pal Atty General Eric Holder to back off and to devote Holder's time and efforts to more important things, like let's say those other "other" things like meth manufacturers and dealers, and crack, and lunatics stockpiling caches of high powered weapons and home grown anti-gov't "terrorists", White Collar Criminals, major polluters, millionaire and billionaire tax evaders and so on. The list is pretty long.... And also, be aware that VP Joe Biden has been for a FEW DECADES now, one of the KEY players in the failed and monumentally wasteful "War On Drugs" and is also credited for creating the official national position known as a "Drug Czar" ("Czar"? WTF?) and even WORSE, he is also directly responsible for the creation of the so-called Anti-Drug Proliferation Act which mandates a possible TWENTY YEAR SENTENCE for any club owners, concert promoters (including "Raves"), and more disturbingly, even any just REGULAR PEOPLE who have parties in THEIR PRIVATE HOMES where it is discovered by law enforcement authorities who came inside that ANY "drug use" had taken place there and that "drug use" also includes WEED. How many of you ever knew about any or all of this? And then there are the other VERY serious issues of continuing drone (aka-chicken shit) warfare that kills a LOT of innocent people in other countries including CHILDREN, and also the spying on US citizens, and also the "assassination list" (or whatever the hell it is known as?) which gives the President the legal authority to go after just about anyone for "termination", and this includes any US CITIZENS, that outside US territory and that are deemed to be a bad enough "threat" to the USA and having them killed WITHOUT any hope for a trial and / or due process etc. I personally don't give a rat's ass about the life of any scum bag that is set on killing a lot of innocent people for any damned "cause" or whatever, but things like trials, due process etc, I think to my knowledge are made pretty clear in the US Constitution, aren't they? But for the record, I did cast my vote for Obama anyway, but ONLY with some serious reservations concerning all of the above for doing so, along with the fact this is race was to be one of the CLOSEST in American history and that (his full name) Willard Mitt Romney, who was massively bankrolled some of the WORSE uber wealthy pigs on the planet, would have been MUCH worse and would have REALLY accelerated and messed things up for years, and maybe even DECADES to come, along with being given the authority to try to appoint certain future right wing fascist assholes as Justices on the Supreme Court who are appointed FOR LIFE. And, do not forget that it is the current right wing-stacked Supreme Court that infamously decided the Citizen's United case which FLUNG OPEN the doors for the "person hood" of major corps(es) to able to "donate" UNLIMITED amounts of money to candidates of their choice in ANY and ALL American political campaigns that they chose to. This goes right along with what has previously been established that MONEY used in such matters is now considered a "form" of "free speech". I guess that means that some people can now have MORE so-called "free speech" than others can, right? Wow! Now, that's really some astounding "true Democracy in action"! Is this still "our" gov't now? But, just think about WHO ELSE that Mittens could maybe have seated on the Supreme Court and what ELSE they might have ushered in? I still remember Mittens RMoney openly saying on camera during his campaign to someone that "Corporations are people, my friend!". What a slimy, oily, self-serving, power hungry prick. But, I doubt he will ever try to run for prez again. He's tried before and thankfully always failed. But, I also wouldn't be surprised if one of his very kreepy SONS tries next time, particularly Tagg RMoney who makes me cringe! However, one funny and TRUE note about Romney: His first name really IS "Willard"...just like that EVIL RAT in those "Willard" rat horror movies from years ago. Is this a "coincidence"? Think about it....:-) Heh! OK...Soap Box Dept. Rant mode OFF. Have a nice day! (and beyond...!) PS- For those who may not be aware of the meaning of the old term "Soap Box": http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=soapbox Cheers- Rev.Fever Portlandia http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental1 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental2 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/skult From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 00:09:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D12F4183474; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 00:09:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 603 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 00:09:39 UTC From: Ed Durbrow Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_293FD608-8DD9-4A06-800F-CEAB0DC07074" Message-Id: <0AD42444-7816-4F62-BBA2-A50AA0DEA512@sea.plala.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 08:59:33 +0900 References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-VirusScan: Outbound; msa01b; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 08:59:34 +0900 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119068 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 00:09:40 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_293FD608-8DD9-4A06-800F-CEAB0DC07074 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 442 is the standard in Japan nowadays. Of course in the early music = world, historically informed practice (HIP) takes into consideration the = various pitches in various cities in various times. For example Bach = regularly had to switch between organ pitch and house pitch. However, = the further back in time you go, the more guesswork it is. Most lute = tutors simply state: tune the first string as high as it will go without = breaking. Wikipedia: Some idea of the variance in pitches can be gained by examining old = pitchpipes, organ pipes and other sources. For example, an English = pitchpipe from 1720[2] plays the A above middle C at 380 Hz, (info) = while the organs played by Johann Sebastian Bach in Hamburg, Leipzig and = Weimar were pitched at A =3D 480 Hz, (info) a difference of around four = semitones. In other words, the A produced by the 1720 pitchpipe would = have been at the same frequency as the F on one of Bach's organs. The take home message is that there was no standard until very recently. = My view is that for contemporary music you can play at whatever pitch = you choose, but if you are trying to recreate music of the past, as it = was heard then, you should take pitch into consideration. It is asking a = lot of singers to sing a tone higher for works that were not meant to be = sung at that pitch. Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www.youtube.com/user/edurbrow?feature=3Dwatch http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ --Apple-Mail=_293FD608-8DD9-4A06-800F-CEAB0DC07074 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii 442 = is the standard in Japan nowadays. Of course in the early music world, = historically informed practice (HIP) takes into consideration the = various pitches in various cities in various times. For example Bach = regularly had to switch between organ pitch and house pitch. However, = the further back in time you go, the more guesswork it is. Most lute = tutors simply state: tune the first string as high as it will go without = breaking.

Wikipedia:
Some idea of the variance in pitches can be gained by examining = old pitchpipes, organ pipes and other sources. For example, = an English pitchpipe from = 1720380 Hz, (organs played by Johann Sebastian = Bach in Hamburg, Leipzig and Weimar were = pitched at A =3D 480 Hz, (semitones. In other words, the = A produced by the 1720 pitchpipe would have been at the same frequency = as the F on one of Bach's organs.

The take home = message is that there was no standard until very recently. My view is = that for contemporary music you can play at whatever pitch you choose, = but if you are trying to recreate music of the past, as it was heard = then, you should take pitch into consideration. It is asking a lot of = singers to sing a tone higher for works that were not meant to be sung = at that pitch.
= --Apple-Mail=_293FD608-8DD9-4A06-800F-CEAB0DC07074-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 02:55:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F10F1183473; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 02:55:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_677eda51-38af-411c-9576-90fd48dfc64b_" X-Originating-IP: [184.145.20.52] From: Jack Cattedra To: Subject: RE: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 02:55:43 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,<50998140.5070608@tiscali.co.uk>,,,<509A8D4C.3060604@soaringspider.com>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2012 02:55:43.0670 (UTC) FILETIME=[8B61DD60:01CDBD5C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119069 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 02:55:44 +0000 (UTC) --_677eda51-38af-411c-9576-90fd48dfc64b_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable this study is still a developing topic in the music community=2C and every = one of our informed opinions counts. :) It's not like we have to handcuff o= urselves to any one way of creating music. With further experimentation=2C = I've noticed that 440 Hz seems to bring the music to the mind and 432 seems= to bring it more to the heart. I think all of this is useful depending on = what kind of music you are creating. "Does it sound sexy?" - Per LOLL > Date: Wed=2C 7 Nov 2012 17:46:18 +0100 > Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? > From: perboysen@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > ...and? What's the point? Does this math have any musical relevance? > Does it sound sexy? Does it sound spiritual? Does 432 evoke other > emotions compared to 440 by the same piece being performed? Research > into those fields would also be interesting to hear about. :-) >=20 > Per = --_677eda51-38af-411c-9576-90fd48dfc64b_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
this study is still a developing topic in the music community=2C and every = one of our informed opinions counts. :) It's not like we have to handcuff o= urselves to any one way of creating music. With further experimentation=2C = I've noticed that 440 Hz seems to bring the music to the mind and 432 seems= to bring it more to the heart. I think all of this is useful depending on = what kind of music you are creating.

"Does it sound sexy?" - Per



LOLL


>= =3B Date: Wed=2C 7 Nov 2012 17:46:18 +0100
>=3B Subject: Re: A =3D 440= Hz OR 432 Hz?
>=3B From: perboysen@gmail.com
>=3B To: Loopers-De= light@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
>=3B ...and? What's the point? Do= es this math have any musical relevance?
>=3B Does it sound sexy? Does= it sound spiritual? Does 432 evoke other
>=3B emotions compared to 44= 0 by the same piece being performed? Research
>=3B into those fields w= ould also be interesting to hear about. :-)
>=3B
>=3B Per
= --_677eda51-38af-411c-9576-90fd48dfc64b_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 06:36:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7432E183473; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 06:36:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <509B52F8.9000305@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 22:36:40 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ditch wrestler , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: loopers in the news References: <1352321773.85103.YahooMailNeo@web162903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1352321773.85103.YahooMailNeo@web162903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119070 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 06:36:43 +0000 (UTC) On 11/7/2012 12:56 PM, ditch wrestler wrote: > My humblest apologies to all - hopefully this hasn't resurrected the > famed Walker Bros. feud... ;-) It's funny, but when my father was alive he used to mix up Bill's and my names all the time and it just used to PISS ME OFF. Now that he is gone and given how much I loved him and how much I love Bill, it just makes me smile wistfully when someone gets our names reversed. I have to go on record, too, and admit that I'm just as proud as any one could ever be that my incredible guitar playing brother is finally in the largest selling music magazine on the planet. He is where he has always belonged.....................the same goes for Erdem. Now, maybe I'll get my shot in Modern Drummer some day............ Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 06:37:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 508FE183475; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 06:37:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=ixtdNx9NM4hUeJMNjCyQ1c6uIWUb7a7fSGucqCM10hE=; b=m76VvRIyKnRxUaGrydeDSh8lLY9vqSm/gLWeu+fuG6s/fGWn6u9TfMD/HbQmCM/P69 vMI4seDRNuk4RIZhOMxqg8rjTANqhcl78IZ1ouXq41GpJ6OIFNAmgj3uWGgE4ZRm+u1z MexfRIsUU0A8YdI6FVqEji2En3R56l0T0PI8KvOzWlz9dqlmRyOuqDqs7XMToE3emY+z J6ctdYCRQesmCz5Jj1Mxdt7ctWx4U9Q5JeO/hl13MpQrDdUMR7aoLX9FLVsi7ynOyZv0 nh9t3DpOK9F2zcadbbL6LmKr6i9Q7SrOWn/ZSzByqgngCrlp/gqF2QrINTE2SZRFx5nO iWvA== References: <50998140.5070608@tiscali.co.uk> <509A8D4C.3060604@soaringspider.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 07:37:44 +0100 Message-ID: <-6334793227960909891@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3440c609cd5904cdf61330 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119071 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 06:37:53 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b3440c609cd5904cdf61330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 8 Nov 2012, at 03:55, Jack Cattedra wrote: every one of our informed opinions counts. :) Why? discussion on this list is a democracy, therfore one is allowed to hold a counter opinion, if you think someones augument or opinion, informed or not, is flawed its perfectly ok to say so! It's not like we have to handcuff ourselves to any one way of creating music. Of course not, you wont find a more experimental group if musicians on the planet! With further experimentation, I've noticed that 440 Hz seems to bring the music to the mind and 432 seems to bring it more to the heart. Oh really, you think that music that is 8 cents different will do that? What happens if you play 100 cents out? Oh yeah... a new key... Cant say Ive been feeling those shifts into heart music when I operate My whammy bar. I think all of this is useful depending on what kind of music you are creating. Yeah... of course... try stuff out, Why not, and sure... we all know that tunings DO make you Sound different, but to sweepingly say that 440 is mind and 432 is heart is nonsensical, for YOU maybe... on THAT day, with those notes your chose to play. Me? I stopped tuning to 432 because it made me hungry, and so I got fat! Mark --047d7b3440c609cd5904cdf61330 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 8 Nov 2012, at 03:55, Jack Catt= edra <the_beat_conduct= or@hotmail.com> wrote:

every one of our informed opinions counts. :)
=

Why? discussion on this list is a democrac= y, therfore one is allowed to hold a counter opinion, if you think someones= augument or opinion, informed or not, is flawed its perfectly ok to say so= !

It's not like we ha= ve to handcuff ourselves to any one way of creating music.

Of course not, you wont find a more experiment= al group if musicians on the planet!

With further= experimentation, I've noticed that 440 Hz seems to bring the music to = the mind and 432 seems to bring it more to the heart.

Oh really, you think that music that is 8 cents differe= nt will do that? What happens if you play 100 cents out? Oh yeah... a new k= ey... Cant say Ive been feeling those shifts into heart music when I operat= e My whammy bar.


I think = all of this is useful depending on what kind of music you are creating.
=

Yeah... of course... try stuff out,= Why not, and sure... we all know that tunings DO make you Sound different,= but to sweepingly say that 440 is mind and 432 is heart is nonsensical, fo= r YOU maybe... on THAT day, with those notes your chose to play.

Me? I stopped tuning to 432 because it made me hungry, and s= o I got fat!

Mark
--047d7b3440c609cd5904cdf61330-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 09:07:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6545B183474; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 09:07:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_b4f033e9-665d-40b7-b186-ab29d9ba032a_" X-Originating-IP: [217.92.117.212] From: Sergio Girardi Sender: To: Subject: RE: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 10:07:10 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <-6334793227960909891@unknownmsgid> References: <50998140.5070608@tiscali.co.uk>, ,<509A8D4C.3060604@soaringspider.com> ,,<-6334793227960909891@unknownmsgid> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2012 09:07:10.0861 (UTC) FILETIME=[6F9553D0:01CDBD90] Resent-Message-ID: <2zVJoD.A.y_.AZ3mQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119072 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 09:07:12 +0000 (UTC) --_b4f033e9-665d-40b7-b186-ab29d9ba032a_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You mean that you got fat before stopping or after stopping with 432? :)BTW= you just said that it is a democracy and people can say if they do not agr= ee with a statement=2C which is right=2C and I would add that it could be i= nteresting to just say "in my opinion" and say what one thinks=2C instead o= f trying to deny what the other thinks.In this case for example he wrote "I= 've noticed that 440 SEEMS to"=2C not that 440 IS mind. Personal impression= . Undeniable. No universal statement. So=2C why to even bother contradictin= g it? He noticed=2C you didn't...:) From: markfrancombe@gmail.com Date: Thu=2C 8 Nov 2012 07:37:44 +0100 Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com On 8 Nov 2012=2C at 03:55=2C Jack Cattedra = wrote: every one of our informed opinions counts. :)=20 Why? discussion on this list is a democracy=2C therfore one is allowed to h= old a counter opinion=2C if you think someones augument or opinion=2C infor= med or not=2C is flawed its perfectly ok to say so! It's not like we have to handcuff ourselves to any one way of creating musi= c.=20 Of course not=2C you wont find a more experimental group if musicians on th= e planet! With further experimentation=2C I've noticed that 440 Hz seems to bring the= music to the mind and 432 seems to bring it more to the heart.=20 Oh really=2C you think that music that is 8 cents different will do that? W= hat happens if you play 100 cents out? Oh yeah... a new key... Cant say Ive= been feeling those shifts into heart music when I operate My whammy bar. I think all of this is useful depending on what kind of music you are creat= ing. Yeah... of course... try stuff out=2C Why not=2C and sure... we all know th= at tunings DO make you Sound different=2C but to sweepingly say that 440 is= mind and 432 is heart is nonsensical=2C for YOU maybe... on THAT day=2C wi= th those notes your chose to play. Me? I stopped tuning to 432 because it made me hungry=2C and so I got fat! Mark = --_b4f033e9-665d-40b7-b186-ab29d9ba032a_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You mean that you got fat before stopping or after stopping with 432? :)BTW you just said that it is a democracy and people can say if they do no= t agree with a statement=2C which is right=2C and I would add that it could= be interesting to just say "in my opinion" and say what one thinks=2C inst= ead of trying to deny what the other thinks.
In this case for exa= mple he wrote "I've noticed that 440 SEEMS to"=2C not that 440 IS mind. Per= sonal impression. Undeniable. No universal statement. So=2C why to even bot= her =3Bcontradicting it? =3BHe noticed=2C you didn't...
:= )

From: markfrancombe@gmail.com
Date: Thu=2C 8 Nov 2012 07:37:44 +0100Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz?
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deligh= t.com

On 8 Nov 2012=2C at 03:55=2C Jack Cattedra <=3Bthe_beat_conductor@hotmail.com>=3B wrote:

every one of our informed opinions counts. :)
=

Why? discussion on this list is a democrac= y=2C therfore one is allowed to hold a counter opinion=2C if you think some= ones augument or opinion=2C informed or not=2C is flawed its perfectly ok t= o say so!

It's not like we have to handcuff our= selves to any one way of creating music.

=
Of course not=2C you wont find a more experimental group if musi= cians on the planet!

With further experimentati= on=2C I've noticed that 440 Hz seems to bring the music to the mind and 432= seems to bring it more to the heart.

Oh really=2C you think that music that is 8 cents diffe= rent will do that? What happens if you play 100 cents out? Oh yeah... a new= key... Cant say Ive been feeling those shifts into heart music when I oper= ate My whammy bar.


I think all of this is= useful depending on what kind of music you are creating.

Yeah... of course... try stuff out=2C Why not=2C = and sure... we all know that tunings DO make you Sound different=2C but to = sweepingly say that 440 is mind and 432 is heart is nonsensical=2C for YOU = maybe... on THAT day=2C with those notes your chose to play.

Me? I stopped tuning to 432 because it made me hungry=2C and= so I got fat!

Mark
<= /div> = --_b4f033e9-665d-40b7-b186-ab29d9ba032a_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 09:12:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC8CD183466; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 09:12:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_5168efbd-b1f2-4bdd-97e5-6288a0405d1d_" X-Originating-IP: [184.145.20.52] From: Jack Cattedra To: Subject: RE: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 09:12:23 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,<50998140.5070608@tiscali.co.uk>,,,<509A8D4C.3060604@soaringspider.com>,,,<-6334793227960909891@unknownmsgid>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2012 09:12:23.0583 (UTC) FILETIME=[29FAEAF0:01CDBD91] Resent-Message-ID: <8moum.A.BIB.4d3mQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119073 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 09:12:24 +0000 (UTC) --_5168efbd-b1f2-4bdd-97e5-6288a0405d1d_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you Ser. :) I love this forum. From: simpliflying@gmail.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? Date: Thu=2C 8 Nov 2012 10:07:10 +0100 You mean that you got fat before stopping or after stopping with 432? :)BTW= you just said that it is a democracy and people can say if they do not agr= ee with a statement=2C which is right=2C and I would add that it could be i= nteresting to just say "in my opinion" and say what one thinks=2C instead o= f trying to deny what the other thinks.In this case for example he wrote "I= 've noticed that 440 SEEMS to"=2C not that 440 IS mind. Personal impression= . Undeniable. No universal statement. So=2C why to even bother contradictin= g it? He noticed=2C you didn't...:) From: markfrancombe@gmail.com Date: Thu=2C 8 Nov 2012 07:37:44 +0100 Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com On 8 Nov 2012=2C at 03:55=2C Jack Cattedra = wrote: every one of our informed opinions counts. :)=20 Why? discussion on this list is a democracy=2C therfore one is allowed to h= old a counter opinion=2C if you think someones augument or opinion=2C infor= med or not=2C is flawed its perfectly ok to say so! It's not like we have to handcuff ourselves to any one way of creating musi= c.=20 Of course not=2C you wont find a more experimental group if musicians on th= e planet! With further experimentation=2C I've noticed that 440 Hz seems to bring the= music to the mind and 432 seems to bring it more to the heart.=20 Oh really=2C you think that music that is 8 cents different will do that? W= hat happens if you play 100 cents out? Oh yeah... a new key... Cant say Ive= been feeling those shifts into heart music when I operate My whammy bar. I think all of this is useful depending on what kind of music you are creat= ing. Yeah... of course... try stuff out=2C Why not=2C and sure... we all know th= at tunings DO make you Sound different=2C but to sweepingly say that 440 is= mind and 432 is heart is nonsensical=2C for YOU maybe... on THAT day=2C wi= th those notes your chose to play. Me? I stopped tuning to 432 because it made me hungry=2C and so I got fat! Mark = --_5168efbd-b1f2-4bdd-97e5-6288a0405d1d_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thank you Ser. :)

I love this forum.

From: simpliflying@gmail.com
= To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432= Hz?
Date: Thu=2C 8 Nov 2012 10:07:10 +0100

You mean that you got fat before stopping or after stopping with 432? :)BTW you just said that it is a democracy and people can say if they do no= t agree with a statement=2C which is right=2C and I would add that it could= be interesting to just say "in my opinion" and say what one thinks=2C inst= ead of trying to deny what the other thinks.
In this case for exa= mple he wrote "I've noticed that 440 SEEMS to"=2C not that 440 IS mind. Per= sonal impression. Undeniable. No universal statement. So=2C why to even bot= her =3Bcontradicting it? =3BHe noticed=2C you didn't...
:= )

From: markfrancombe@gmail.com
Date: Thu=2C 8 Nov 2012 07:37:44 +0= 100
Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz?
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-= delight.com

every one of our informed opinions counts. :)
=

Why? discussion on this list is a democrac= y=2C therfore one is allowed to hold a counter opinion=2C if you think some= ones augument or opinion=2C informed or not=2C is flawed its perfectly ok t= o say so!

It's not like we have to handcuff our= selves to any one way of creating music.

=
Of course not=2C you wont find a more experimental group if musi= cians on the planet!

With further experimentati= on=2C I've noticed that 440 Hz seems to bring the music to the mind and 432= seems to bring it more to the heart.

Oh really=2C you think that music that is 8 cents diffe= rent will do that? What happens if you play 100 cents out? Oh yeah... a new= key... Cant say Ive been feeling those shifts into heart music when I oper= ate My whammy bar.


I think all of this is= useful depending on what kind of music you are creating.

Yeah... of course... try stuff out=2C Why not=2C = and sure... we all know that tunings DO make you Sound different=2C but to = sweepingly say that 440 is mind and 432 is heart is nonsensical=2C for YOU = maybe... on THAT day=2C with those notes your chose to play.

Me? I stopped tuning to 432 because it made me hungry=2C and= so I got fat!

Mark
<= /div>
= --_5168efbd-b1f2-4bdd-97e5-6288a0405d1d_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 09:12:59 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 648A7183476; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 09:12:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=/sZJfRwjDR+ov+1rv4eoZz98w1Eg7r81LXfZbgdU/xE=; b=GUgftL6fJfsldSRL1lV2JQxCmPibBAtmahz8AnX0VbQmKQ9lChaURsdAzgOjKko2q/ a+3ISkgkpUUEmHrlECvQU/voeatUkmP8XNEqJdqpHwKtTyQYjs8jBAY2EKhsRN7kkneO Xxl0eJFGchWYJh9JPTVU2/oc561nR4eLK4QpOndKZw5YE54ad8myk+y8XwJO6A2VXvhQ 18Poedjnu2u/1hFxi/jYxsxQ3p1MUoXnpGAtwlVGi/PxjCVMS/eV4AIWemDm2VHYk+ma fkgINTP9rHKeVgk/5NTLDqrEdjjlXrQfOktsbDTTK7bOFGBFCag8WOsWW5n6LoaOxLA4 BbkQ== References: <50998140.5070608@tiscali.co.uk> <509A8D4C.3060604@soaringspider.com> <-6334793227960909891@unknownmsgid> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 10:12:56 +0100 Message-ID: <3945756715345511554@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b670727bc3b4304cdf83d78 Resent-Message-ID: <2Soh-D.A.rOB.be3mQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119074 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 09:12:59 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b670727bc3b4304cdf83d78 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ok fair point... "seems" did it. Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 8 Nov 2012, at 10:07, Sergio Girardi wrote: You mean that you got fat before stopping or after stopping with 432? :) BTW you just said that it is a democracy and people can say if they do not agree with a statement, which is right, and I would add that it could be interesting to just say "in my opinion" and say what one thinks, instead of trying to deny what the other thinks. In this case for example he wrote "I've noticed that 440 SEEMS to", not that 440 IS mind. Personal impression. Undeniable. No universal statement. So, why to even bother contradicting it? He noticed, you didn't... :) ------------------------------ From: markfrancombe@gmail.com Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 07:37:44 +0100 Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com On 8 Nov 2012, at 03:55, Jack Cattedra wrote: every one of our informed opinions counts. :) Why? discussion on this list is a democracy, therfore one is allowed to hold a counter opinion, if you think someones augument or opinion, informed or not, is flawed its perfectly ok to say so! It's not like we have to handcuff ourselves to any one way of creating music. Of course not, you wont find a more experimental group if musicians on the planet! With further experimentation, I've noticed that 440 Hz seems to bring the music to the mind and 432 seems to bring it more to the heart. Oh really, you think that music that is 8 cents different will do that? What happens if you play 100 cents out? Oh yeah... a new key... Cant say Ive been feeling those shifts into heart music when I operate My whammy bar. I think all of this is useful depending on what kind of music you are creating. Yeah... of course... try stuff out, Why not, and sure... we all know that tunings DO make you Sound different, but to sweepingly say that 440 is mind and 432 is heart is nonsensical, for YOU maybe... on THAT day, with those notes your chose to play. Me? I stopped tuning to 432 because it made me hungry, and so I got fat! Mark --047d7b670727bc3b4304cdf83d78 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ok fair point... "seems"= did it.

Sent from my (advertisement removed)

On 8 Nov= 2012, at 10:07, Sergio Girardi <simpliflying@gmail.com> wrote:

You mean that you got fat before stopping or after stopping with 432? :)BTW you just said that it is a democracy and people can say if they do no= t agree with a statement, which is right, and I would add that it could be = interesting to just say "in my opinion" and say what one thinks, = instead of trying to deny what the other thinks.
In this case for example he wrote "I've noticed that 440 SEEM= S to", not that 440 IS mind. Personal impression. Undeniable. No unive= rsal statement. So, why to even bother=A0contradicting it?=A0He noticed, yo= u didn't...
:)

From: markfrancombe@gmail= .com
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 07:37:44 +0100
Subject: Re: A =3D 440 = Hz OR 432 Hz?
To: Loopers-Delight@= loopers-delight.com

On 8 Nov 2012, at 03:55, Jack Cattedra = <the_beat_conductor@ho= tmail.com> wrote:

every one of our informed opinions counts. :)
=

Why? discussion on this list is a democrac= y, therfore one is allowed to hold a counter opinion, if you think someones= augument or opinion, informed or not, is flawed its perfectly ok to say so= !

It's not like we have to handcuff= ourselves to any one way of creating music.
=
Of course not, you wont find a more experimental group if mu= sicians on the planet!

With further experimentati= on, I've noticed that 440 Hz seems to bring the music to the mind and 4= 32 seems to bring it more to the heart.

Oh really, you think that music that is 8 cents differe= nt will do that? What happens if you play 100 cents out? Oh yeah... a new k= ey... Cant say Ive been feeling those shifts into heart music when I operat= e My whammy bar.


I think all of this is= useful depending on what kind of music you are creating.

Yeah... of course... try stuff out, Why not, and = sure... we all know that tunings DO make you Sound different, but to sweepi= ngly say that 440 is mind and 432 is heart is nonsensical, for YOU maybe...= on THAT day, with those notes your chose to play.

Me? I stopped tuning to 432 because it made me hungry, and s= o I got fat!

Mark
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I ha= ve an LP1 I can consider selling.


PS co= ntact me off list of interested
D= ate: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 08:25:10 -0800
From: paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.comSubject: Anyone selling a Looper?
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.= com

<= tr>

=0AI am looking for a loo= per. Checked eBay. Meh. Any available from this august group?
=0ARegards= , Paul


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<= /div> --343272849-735887963-1352366129=:33489-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 09:43:32 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0147C183475; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 09:43:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1352367810; bh=en6Zu/fTN3GRe/m42ReKF1bmzAmFjDFBEnKtqRdVO6Y=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Date:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Message-Id:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer; b=mI4N5kQHhQU+NiX/ukpiRltzT7N2CswTuGhtqoBOgFOUKcejlqG6wrTJmbPXZt/fnvXE/KtIDtOxqUHERUAv1UIypmHV7EwquxAM6/+Ml6Nyko/UIQdz9y1F2/VmmWqnkVsm4Aycjb6zWB6LzhAZrgJx58gGUKKJMX4GJ4ujKjk= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 483272.1198.bm@smtp117.mail.ukl.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: hfZjm8YVM1nLE3ypDeUhyRi52Dj.KBWxLVPN6X8omzMCFos EOIvC7VPV6q0kp2ArH0mmiGJzogajqFquMOtRJuzkyv7UHTHie33DkJZj3nn .2STDf0z6n.O4xNZ4CBudtlsS7AKpOkd0VxzJhA_JQP70nakWFvUx.V9EWDW tDokWhK3mEMDyxsxYk9whF.P95_WwlkjhMeQf1SLOxEPRTEy7FhBjkyizSDT YaNzrmoJdft7msYSRAVigfhg6dCpm.ldMrK43hLG__UzHPY5yY_VH4E5tIEy NuOSWB5b.ujjzyT7Jozs1FiMGO1nikmDP.frOdfDuYeiDB.dO0btLvhTG8.e zU.3qoNiyL8inEetrNIoUG4XSObI0pVK_AOGHEGsTgHW7EASKMDStzWRtk.. sw12Acf64ea42klF1lVIGEcLKXBKvL7kBbifWQiR1Y3ZTKfph2uavnW37ESF ggTFHhOD8zuckuTcLZ8K8UQ-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: 75CdczOswBChen.W3AbLhaW8TlC96TVo5w-- From: Ben To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 10:43:30 +0100 Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? In-Reply-To: <3945756715345511554@unknownmsgid> References: <3945756715345511554@unknownmsgid> Message-Id: <20121108104330.096565B0.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: nPOPuk Ver 2.16 Resent-Message-ID: <7en2t.A.2qB.D73mQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119076 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 09:43:31 +0000 (UTC) Hello, fun thread ! I use sometimes A=441 Hz when doing synthesis. Just because it makes a perfect 100 samples cycle when using 44.100 (CD) sampling frequency. Easier to have a perfect looping single cycle ;-) Ben -------------------------------------------------- mark francombe wrote: (08/11/2012 10:12) > ok fair point... "seems" did it. > > Sent from my (advertisement removed) > > On 8 Nov 2012, at 10:07, Sergio Girardi wrote: > > You mean that you got fat before stopping or after stopping with 432? :) > BTW you just said that it is a democracy and people can say if they do not > agree with a statement, which is right, and I would add that it could be > interesting to just say "in my opinion" and say what one thinks, instead of > trying to deny what the other thinks. > In this case for example he wrote "I've noticed that 440 SEEMS to", not > that 440 IS mind. Personal impression. Undeniable. No universal statement. > So, why to even bother contradicting it? He noticed, you didn't... > :) > > ------------------------------ > From: markfrancombe@gmail.com > Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 07:37:44 +0100 > Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > On 8 Nov 2012, at 03:55, Jack Cattedra > wrote: > > every one of our informed opinions counts. :) > > > Why? discussion on this list is a democracy, therfore one is allowed to > hold a counter opinion, if you think someones augument or opinion, informed > or not, is flawed its perfectly ok to say so! > > It's not like we have to handcuff ourselves to any one way of creating > music. > > > Of course not, you wont find a more experimental group if musicians on the > planet! > > With further experimentation, I've noticed that 440 Hz seems to bring the > music to the mind and 432 seems to bring it more to the heart. > > > Oh really, you think that music that is 8 cents different will do that? > What happens if you play 100 cents out? Oh yeah... a new key... Cant say > Ive been feeling those shifts into heart music when I operate My whammy bar. > > > I think all of this is useful depending on what kind of music you are > creating. > > > Yeah... of course... try stuff out, Why not, and sure... we all know that > tunings DO make you Sound different, but to sweepingly say that 440 is mind > and 432 is heart is nonsensical, for YOU maybe... on THAT day, with those > notes your chose to play. > > Me? I stopped tuning to 432 because it made me hungry, and so I got fat! > > Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 10:15:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E461183473; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 10:15:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 156265 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 10:15:27 UTC Message-ID: <509B8640.5010701@virgin.net> Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 10:15:28 +0000 From: Dave Draper Reply-To: Dave Draper , dh.draper@virgin.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ed Durbrow CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? References: <0AD42444-7816-4F62-BBA2-A50AA0DEA512@sea.plala.or.jp> In-Reply-To: <0AD42444-7816-4F62-BBA2-A50AA0DEA512@sea.plala.or.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-Smarthost04-IP: [82.69.58.35] Resent-Message-ID: <1d3yD.A.86B._Y4mQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119077 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 10:15:27 +0000 (UTC) On 07/11/2012 23:59, Ed Durbrow wrote: > Wikipedia: > Some idea of the variance in pitches can be gained by examining old > pitchpipes , organ pipes and > other sources. For example, an English > pitchpipe from 1720^[2] > plays the > A above middle C at 380 Hz, > > (info ) while the > organs played by Johann > Sebastian Bach in > Hamburg , Leipzig > and Weimar > were pitched at A = > 480 Hz, > > (info ) a difference > of around four semitones . In > other words, the A produced by the 1720 pitchpipe would have been at the > same frequency as the F on one of Bach's organs. Indeed. In the Helmholtz tome I have (English translation of 2nd edition), Table 1, App XX, 'Historical Pitches in Order from Lowest to Highest' lists measured a' from 373.1Hz up to 567.3Hz, more than a fifth apart! Interestingly (or not!) there is no entry at 432HZ, the nearest being 431.7 (1826, Paris, Grand Opera fork given by Spontini) & 432.2 (1854, Lille, organ of St Andre repaired). 440Hz is listed once as the Paris opera orchestra pitch in 1829, observed by Lissajous, confirmed by Monneron for de la Fage. So it seems the French were way ahead of the Germans in their use of A=440Hz! Just (groan) my 2 cents' worth - not equal to 2 Hz BTW :) Dave From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 11:10:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9CD12183473; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 11:10:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <509B9317.3040506@virgin.net> Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 11:10:15 +0000 From: Dave Draper Reply-To: dh.draper@virgin.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Per Boysen CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Researching micro tunings "hands-on" (was: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz?) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-Smarthost03-IP: [82.69.58.35] Resent-Message-ID: <5DnlS.A.fbC.UM5mQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119078 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 11:10:13 +0000 (UTC) On 07/11/2012 14:08, Per Boysen wrote: > I think I ought to put a new subject line to this post, because I'm > leaving the 440 vs 432 discussion.But that thread inspired me to do a > little hands-on experimenting with different micro tunings. Good idea, a subject close to my own heart! But Alchemy > doesn't allow the user to set a root note for the key so my guess is > that all micro tunings of Alchemy only works in the traditionally > correct way if playing in C... which I did not (maybe that's why I > liked it?). This made me dig out some stuff I did back around 1992, playing around with a DX7-II. This had a great function of being able to map an edit function to a controller, which could then be mapped (in Notator!) to a keyboard. The oscillator ratios produce a sort of just intonation, which of course gets very 'unjust' as you go higher :) That led me to retuning the DX7 in just intonation in C (along with changing a Korg synth to the same), & doing an experimental piece of which I've posted an extract: http://soundcloud.com/davedraper-1/one4harry-exc Of course when I change the chord it all goes a bit 'interesting', but it crossed my mind even then, that theoretically it would be possible to electronically retune a synth on the fly as the key of a piece modulated. So Bach's 48 preludes & fugues in just intonation, say. I guess this is what Logic have done now we have so much more processing power at our fingertips. Incidentally, the Korg didn't default back to ET when you switched it off, which confused the heck out of the guys in the studio the following week - oops! I just found another reference to all this stuff at http://www.archive.org/stream/cu31924022233088#page/n5/mode/2up - Mr Bosanquet's 'An Elementary Treatise on Musical Intervals & Temperament', on openlibrary.org. His cycle of 53 is mentioned in the Helmholtz book, along with pics of his 53-notes-per-octave organ!! (Maybe he was a 53-fingered alien?) Dave Draper From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 11:29:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 82FD0183476; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 11:29:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_41d67b3a-7616-44d0-9fc4-7c75e406628b_" X-Originating-IP: [217.92.117.212] From: Sergio Girardi Sender: To: Subject: RE: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 12:29:40 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20121108104330.096565B0.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> References: <3945756715345511554@unknownmsgid>,<20121108104330.096565B0.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2012 11:29:40.0364 (UTC) FILETIME=[577BF4C0:01CDBDA4] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119079 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 11:29:41 +0000 (UTC) --_41d67b3a-7616-44d0-9fc4-7c75e406628b_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable mmm. From the bottom of my ignorance I still can't understand your words as= only someone who has practical empiric experience with loopers and music c= ould.Can you explain a bit more? It seems interesting. Ser > From: benoitruelle@yahoo.fr > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Thu=2C 8 Nov 2012 10:43:30 +0100 > Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? >=20 > Hello=2C fun thread ! >=20 > I use sometimes A=3D441 Hz when doing synthesis. > Just because it makes a perfect 100 samples cycle when using 44.100=20 > (CD) sampling frequency.=20 > Easier to have a perfect looping single cycle =3B-) >=20 > Ben >=20 > -------------------------------------------------- > mark francombe wrote: > (08/11/2012 10:12) >=20 > > ok fair point... "seems" did it. > >=20 > > Sent from my (advertisement removed) > >=20 > > On 8 Nov 2012=2C at 10:07=2C Sergio Girardi wr= ote: > >=20 > > You mean that you got fat before stopping or after stopping with 432? = :) > > BTW you just said that it is a democracy and people can say if they do = not > > agree with a statement=2C which is right=2C and I would add that it cou= ld be > > interesting to just say "in my opinion" and say what one thinks=2C inst= ead of > > trying to deny what the other thinks. > > In this case for example he wrote "I've noticed that 440 SEEMS to"=2C n= ot > > that 440 IS mind. Personal impression. Undeniable. No universal stateme= nt. > > So=2C why to even bother contradicting it? He noticed=2C you didn't... > > :) > >=20 > > ------------------------------ > > From: markfrancombe@gmail.com > > Date: Thu=2C 8 Nov 2012 07:37:44 +0100 > > Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >=20 > > On 8 Nov 2012=2C at 03:55=2C Jack Cattedra > > wrote: > >=20 > > every one of our informed opinions counts. :) > >=20 > >=20 > > Why? discussion on this list is a democracy=2C therfore one is allowed = to > > hold a counter opinion=2C if you think someones augument or opinion=2C = informed > > or not=2C is flawed its perfectly ok to say so! > >=20 > > It's not like we have to handcuff ourselves to any one way of creating > > music. > >=20 > >=20 > > Of course not=2C you wont find a more experimental group if musicians o= n the > > planet! > >=20 > > With further experimentation=2C I've noticed that 440 Hz seems to bring= the > > music to the mind and 432 seems to bring it more to the heart. > >=20 > >=20 > > Oh really=2C you think that music that is 8 cents different will do tha= t? > > What happens if you play 100 cents out? Oh yeah... a new key... Cant sa= y > > Ive been feeling those shifts into heart music when I operate My whammy= bar. > >=20 > >=20 > > I think all of this is useful depending on what kind of music you are > > creating. > >=20 > >=20 > > Yeah... of course... try stuff out=2C Why not=2C and sure... we all kno= w that > > tunings DO make you Sound different=2C but to sweepingly say that 440 i= s mind > > and 432 is heart is nonsensical=2C for YOU maybe... on THAT day=2C with= those > > notes your chose to play. > >=20 > > Me? I stopped tuning to 432 because it made me hungry=2C and so I got f= at! > >=20 > > Mark >=20 = --_41d67b3a-7616-44d0-9fc4-7c75e406628b_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
mmm. From the bottom of my ignorance I still can't understand your words as= only someone who has practical empiric experience with loopers and music c= ould.
Can you explain a bit more? It seems interesting.

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>=3B From= : benoitruelle@yahoo.fr
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>=3B Date: Thu=2C 8 Nov 2012 10:43:30 +0100
>=3B Subject: Re: A = =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz?
>=3B
>=3B Hello=2C fun thread !
>=3B =
>=3B I use sometimes A=3D441 Hz when doing synthesis.
>=3B Just = because it makes a perfect 100 samples cycle when using 44.100
>=3B (= CD) sampling frequency.
>=3B Easier to have a perfect looping single = cycle =3B-)
>=3B
>=3B Ben
>=3B
>=3B -----------------= ---------------------------------
>=3B mark francombe <=3Bmarkfranco= mbe@gmail.com>=3B wrote:
>=3B (08/11/2012 10:12)
>=3B
>= =3B >=3B ok fair point... "seems" did it.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >= =3B Sent from my (advertisement removed)
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B= On 8 Nov 2012=2C at 10:07=2C Sergio Girardi <=3Bsimpliflying@gmail.com&g= t=3B wrote:
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B You mean that you got fat b= efore stopping or after stopping with 432? :)
>=3B >=3B BTW you just= said that it is a democracy and people can say if they do not
>=3B &g= t=3B agree with a statement=2C which is right=2C and I would add that it co= uld be
>=3B >=3B interesting to just say "in my opinion" and say wha= t one thinks=2C instead of
>=3B >=3B trying to deny what the other t= hinks.
>=3B >=3B In this case for example he wrote "I've noticed tha= t 440 SEEMS to"=2C not
>=3B >=3B that 440 IS mind. Personal impressi= on. Undeniable. No universal statement.
>=3B >=3B So=2C why to even = bother contradicting it? He noticed=2C you didn't...
>=3B >=3B :)>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B ------------------------------
>=3B &= gt=3B From: markfrancombe@gmail.com
>=3B >=3B Date: Thu=2C 8 Nov 201= 2 07:37:44 +0100
>=3B >=3B Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz?
&= gt=3B >=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B >=3B
&= gt=3B >=3B On 8 Nov 2012=2C at 03:55=2C Jack Cattedra <=3Bthe_beat_cond= uctor@hotmail.com>=3B
>=3B >=3B wrote:
>=3B >=3B
>=3B= >=3B every one of our informed opinions counts. :)
>=3B >=3B >=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Why? discussion on this list is a democrac= y=2C therfore one is allowed to
>=3B >=3B hold a counter opinion=2C = if you think someones augument or opinion=2C informed
>=3B >=3B or n= ot=2C is flawed its perfectly ok to say so!
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >= =3B It's not like we have to handcuff ourselves to any one way of creating<= br>>=3B >=3B music.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >= =3B Of course not=2C you wont find a more experimental group if musicians o= n the
>=3B >=3B planet!
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B With furt= her experimentation=2C I've noticed that 440 Hz seems to bring the
>= =3B >=3B music to the mind and 432 seems to bring it more to the heart.>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Oh really=2C you think = that music that is 8 cents different will do that?
>=3B >=3B What ha= ppens if you play 100 cents out? Oh yeah... a new key... Cant say
>=3B= >=3B Ive been feeling those shifts into heart music when I operate My wh= ammy bar.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B I think all = of this is useful depending on what kind of music you are
>=3B >=3B = creating.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Yeah... of c= ourse... try stuff out=2C Why not=2C and sure... we all know that
>=3B= >=3B tunings DO make you Sound different=2C but to sweepingly say that 4= 40 is mind
>=3B >=3B and 432 is heart is nonsensical=2C for YOU mayb= e... on THAT day=2C with those
>=3B >=3B notes your chose to play.>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Me? I stopped tuning to 432 because it ma= de me hungry=2C and so I got fat!
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Mark>=3B
= --_41d67b3a-7616-44d0-9fc4-7c75e406628b_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 11:41:19 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C918D183464; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 11:41:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_481a834b-2d24-4b13-b000-bb938c561605_" X-Originating-IP: [184.145.20.52] From: Jack Cattedra To: Subject: RE: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 11:41:18 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20121108104330.096565B0.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> References: <3945756715345511554@unknownmsgid>,<20121108104330.096565B0.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2012 11:41:18.0594 (UTC) FILETIME=[F7A96620:01CDBDA5] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119080 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 11:41:19 +0000 (UTC) --_481a834b-2d24-4b13-b000-bb938c561605_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cool! Gonne have to mess around with that one. > From: benoitruelle@yahoo.fr > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Thu=2C 8 Nov 2012 10:43:30 +0100 > Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? >=20 > Hello=2C fun thread ! >=20 > I use sometimes A=3D441 Hz when doing synthesis. > Just because it makes a perfect 100 samples cycle when using 44.100=20 > (CD) sampling frequency.=20 > Easier to have a perfect looping single cycle =3B-) >=20 > Ben = --_481a834b-2d24-4b13-b000-bb938c561605_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Cool! Gonne have to mess around with that one.

>=3B From: benoitruelle@yahoo.fr
>=3B To: Loop= ers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B Date: Thu=2C 8 Nov 2012 10:43:30 = +0100
>=3B Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz?
>=3B
>=3B H= ello=2C fun thread !
>=3B
>=3B I use sometimes A=3D441 Hz when d= oing synthesis.
>=3B Just because it makes a perfect 100 samples cycle= when using 44.100
>=3B (CD) sampling frequency.
>=3B Easier to= have a perfect looping single cycle =3B-)
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= --_481a834b-2d24-4b13-b000-bb938c561605_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 11:50:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 188A1183477; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 11:50:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=lTiRD6ojtu0fsh0v/gXBheDR46vzg5T+42lpdjnWZ60=; b=InlSbg0Q22AFAA5G/ZHMh9fJbtS8udVfwwNAZELpaAqJWrRfnJZyQ+q7u+St3riQd6 Ddzu8fBx6USAaRTP9DBc5v2uuimWnI/EfbAAUHvUG2MCJw5fijV/0sh/0I1D/P/j62hd lNsM1CzPi0uNSysM/+cXf3MoPxz8HHWHizHgtkzUD+nNOOSVF3P4alTzoMQzDntxXXSW MLpUxs4N9vg3LZt5DksU8KZNb+d528vrfB0fD9jR2NtEJoANCrX1N282JS9UcyOmt/kh ChRhGUf/8pdrjzLYCGbJv7/0ppsa66B8Ldmkc+DbZxHZ8i7XeI8TWMWmrBet2/clH/GM qWTA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <3945756715345511554@unknownmsgid> <20121108104330.096565B0.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 12:50:45 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119081 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 11:50:46 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Sergio Girardi wrote: > mmm. From the bottom of my ignorance I still can't understand your words as > only someone who has practical empiric experience with loopers and music > could. > Can you explain a bit more? It seems interesting. When you are not adding any quote to your post it's not easy to understand who you are talking to! :-) At least a dozen people have added interesting stuff to this discussion, so who and what are you asking for being explained a bit more? On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 3:55 AM, Jack Cattedra wrote: > I've noticed that 440 Hz seems to bring the music to the mind and 432 seems > to bring it more to the heart. Interesting. But can it be that this your finding is biased by already knowing that those frequencies in traditional chakra theory are held for corresponding with the heart chakra and Ajna chakra which is believed to having a lot to do with the thinking mind? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 12:05:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10CA4183466; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 12:05:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=6KvaF7ujAK0UV9GkanqLSCns2CVqsJG8tAYAuXTVuTw=; b=rQg9QSN3WLqLhKSP5sPS0EVBzMAraL4FfiqV5iPnIx7pzS+4+0cus9iQ+WM3rZqixm D+fUcNzPi/juMDnLihve8J0DSeFqdHQ1EItFQhHQYOI3IzaDUsp34/N9hF55ARQW3PbM mu9NY7Y5bzlHBQYID686FGU8ZC/KFC/InedjO/i/WSJjizYqgA2LCmFbvpGyQ7Qv1xlj PoRVRzS+AEQlXEfmyB4D2bqzi2qUnHUTRUZVAdzBwIs2ZED6xkKSxuNi0MadIeW0EfbC Hxf5Z62JAoCFiq4GHDna+9PDEknAvgX1yRGS9atkpHSiiuQhnMSENGT5zOXH/2W2612f 9J9A== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <509B9317.3040506@virgin.net> References: <509B9317.3040506@virgin.net> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 13:05:51 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Researching micro tunings "hands-on" (was: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz?) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119082 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 12:05:52 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Dave Draper wrote: > I just found another reference to all this stuff at > > http://www.archive.org/stream/cu31924022233088#page/n5/mode/2up > > - Mr Bosanquet's 'An Elementary Treatise on Musical Intervals & > Temperament', on openlibrary.org. His cycle of 53 is mentioned in the > Helmholtz book, along with pics of his 53-notes-per-octave organ!! > (Maybe he was a 53-fingered alien?) Thanks, Dave. For sure a resource worth bookmarking! > http://soundcloud.com/davedraper-1/one4harry-exc Nice recording! Lovely fm artifact noise outbursts here and there. So you were in fact playing it by SYSEX? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 12:58:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD5DE183466; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 12:58:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=pC4WB/v5ESLVCxQR8NPgG3Yw4NvF/qIyar0pq3rqKkU=; b=oM1fcnnw9lAvv2onHCFoC/jUhhxFt8lDKEBK5qhfnfOl2GBolvt8wKS+fQGv42jtUL UtRWVOWuThbVDPGhyerH/QMUXMmwin//3vBtt4GCZPYS2CTB1kHHZUZPa6H9jHatiOuH G1a5uoCVyJu+D3OEEUod0ov0TGTyYDlRvRzuEMe0WmiwIHT47/eHOjICKLred//apVmR 9DaoTB+ZmL/h0wU89rt+F299yE85v3G1y2pdWwDa0X30BrsC7oiv5lh9dxcz2A+HwvQ/ SKcCNfGpBktN35kY71m5Yi6oXbApXomerWM9Eu2/Tlva7/v3Jj5LzOPOOytDvKPx1Yhw SVXw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <3945756715345511554@unknownmsgid> <20121108104330.096565B0.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 13:58:43 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? From: Lasse juul Kolding To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <8KLtoB.A.MpD.Ey6mQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119083 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 12:58:44 +0000 (UTC) I remember reading somewhere a conspiracy that 440 was brought into play by the illuminati in 1939 because it creates tension and would prepare the general population for war... ;) On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Sergio Girardi wrote: >> mmm. From the bottom of my ignorance I still can't understand your words as >> only someone who has practical empiric experience with loopers and music >> could. >> Can you explain a bit more? It seems interesting. > > > When you are not adding any quote to your post it's not easy to > understand who you are talking to! :-) At least a dozen people have > added interesting stuff to this discussion, so who and what are you > asking for being explained a bit more? > > > On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 3:55 AM, Jack Cattedra > wrote: >> I've noticed that 440 Hz seems to bring the music to the mind and 432 seems >> to bring it more to the heart. > > Interesting. But can it be that this your finding is biased by already > knowing that those frequencies in traditional chakra theory are held > for corresponding with the heart chakra and Ajna chakra which is > believed to having a lot to do with the thinking mind? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 13:05:18 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECA3C183466; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 13:05:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mfNo58hY7Y9vFKCuuXyp94tUeK7sVCjURqazlscjlBA=; b=Cqo3zIAQqGLjuykQn3+vFhaP+bFy4p3O86U189cmFWi+n/87rZpHvX/Ycxc26Dd96V KoBgxxPN5VPQdlhtZxBfWZolbFx/iDHuCzXyDlmOg4/lWCm5ivmlW+Cxyp4iHPaJaLlD bSNd/A5MzRqcXjFhJ+e2aqqIUYYUk/drtwtqAKfK5BCdPFynx1I3+rcHqzKSmQyRM4kI aPiDbsvkDN6j3NhmanAwDDGvlFveimMNstzzl6tTDTbWVQC/tePh5DZdtNimyhhn3t// OEpi/wsRpkem+8rNwwSSYfKj14YHOHdA+qPdfBxQ4McMm65iyTAFm9jtMhqb99gR3yUo gEww== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 14:05:16 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: "Microlooper" (a Max 4 Live device) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d7ea9c88d35804cdfb7c00 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119084 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 13:05:17 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d7ea9c88d35804cdfb7c00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, I just saw this passing by on my RSS reader. I've always been keen on that functionality but no normal loopers I know about will let you do this "sample style" mangling of real-time audio. IMHO a big step for mankind. ;-) Typically something you put before your regular meat-n-potato looper and hook it up to an expression pedal as a kind of performance instrument extension. I guess... MicroLooper is a simple looping utility. It allows the user to record a > sample (maximum length of 2 seconds) and edit the loop start and end points > while playing back. Link: http://www.maxforlive.com/library/device.php?id=1346 Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen --0016e6d7ea9c88d35804cdfb7c00 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

I just saw this passing by on my RSS reader. I've always bee= n keen on that functionality but no normal loopers I know about will let yo= u do this "sample style" mangling of real-time audio. IMHO a big = step for mankind. ;-) Typically something you put before your regular meat-= n-potato looper and hook it up to an expression pedal as a kind of performa= nce instrument extension. I guess...=C2=A0

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--0016e6d7ea9c88d35804cdfb7c00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 13:07:48 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 99C28183465; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 13:07:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=wCtmTRlD1KctMuaIqIILTtnIaEUaqWaRTCG1kd1SXD4=; b=dSYC7RXypWb9E4iyOLPwjqu5Ge1qEUUrwCvszaVtcj8j0V3KXKbrN7k0LeUwZrBcaB Rtx/yYVGI+cQ9teVshY7+08QGLb9MwrXyP2s1vzbZC/Q8YXHEFdaHM6gDDZhQUUL04xl +WX4u8m02acbpicwFwTBgdhKBUhGWrGuB8Wpf4b+I+fL7qJZO1YioNC89rwha9poVEku Iqf249GnuUuNNtbZSvykmLeGYXbFW1Uc3mfVc40Rfk5YzLOHuDKqoJKs3mok9lvtOMTE M6mo98uHDnPW1MVxn6LQZYSWOwlUT2V2OAVniCXUEYUGZ/5WkbfrFxLAQG0Dg097Guku k2+A== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <3945756715345511554@unknownmsgid> <20121108104330.096565B0.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 14:07:47 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119085 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 13:07:48 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Lasse juul Kolding wrote: > > I remember reading somewhere a conspiracy that 440 was brought into > play by the illuminati in 1939 because it creates tension and would > prepare the general population for war... ;) I read that too... but my source had it to be the Nazis. I'm not sure though, didn't they emigrate to the dark side of the moon in 1939? Per ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 13:21:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22287183465; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 13:21:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=VJCRHSD0r1f9QhZxk+SEvwURoi4ZYXGXFgfDEa8Ht+I=; b=QvccUIFjWhVx7cCEFKkbWSf03nh93FfnssdYDSzutM2/G4WRCZzCpybHL8AfsQlU+B QIYQ9Le+41OOoJiuPC4Plb4BDwpWd7LyedjF5Wg+GUPppDVAz0kOLt/N/Un5hMgGgDs/ 5oAWRbKhH+80DklIHo/g+YPaHE6Qo69CWflbxz9KmbhH72N8MnJjvgZ+DJw/8U3TBdBO Gz7yUPXcKsGnDxaceVlcVCrhZtfRRhMffmzHjZ6jVlBx92FSvd1rGe3GZOpJzmTbzWgr f8n4h7Us+FBX+IIJ039uGzkTlmXAEwYzPLcmpQEqAsbQ/6z+qhiH87rpUTisP3HUZ3Eq s2Ow== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <509B9317.3040506@virgin.net> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 14:20:43 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: HlKPD9wHMzqezFMAMlz3oNhcYO8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Researching micro tunings "hands-on" (was: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz?) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b34392ef950ab04cdfbb475 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119086 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 13:21:04 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b34392ef950ab04cdfbb475 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Fantastic Harry! This is a DX7 II? Its sounds alot like scanning thru wavetables, like on my Korg MS2000, or the Blacet Miniwave (in my modular synth). That must have been tough with no knobs?? > http://soundcloud.com/davedraper-1/one4harry-exc > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b34392ef950ab04cdfbb475 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fantastic Harry!
This is a DX7 II? Its sounds alot like scanning thru wa= vetables, like on my Korg MS2000, or the Blacet Miniwave (in my modular syn= th).
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--047d7b34392ef950ab04cdfbb475-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 13:29:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4DF22183466; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 13:29:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_d0c82ca2-af31-4b87-9159-66381f22b8d1_" X-Originating-IP: [217.92.117.212] From: Sergio Girardi Sender: To: Subject: RE: "Microlooper" (a Max 4 Live device) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 14:29:11 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2012 13:29:11.0896 (UTC) FILETIME=[0A0CE580:01CDBDB5] Resent-Message-ID: <_4E_C.A.gKE.pO7mQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119087 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 13:29:13 +0000 (UTC) --_d0c82ca2-af31-4b87-9159-66381f22b8d1_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would not swear on my soul but I think the Octatrack can do that.Unless I= did not misunderstand what you meant.But=2C well=2C after all the OT is a = sampler which can also loop... Ser Date: Thu=2C 8 Nov 2012 14:05:16 +0100 Subject: "Microlooper" (a Max 4 Live device) From: perboysen@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Hi=2C I just saw this passing by on my RSS reader. I've always been keen on that = functionality but no normal loopers I know about will let you do this "samp= le style" mangling of real-time audio. IMHO a big step for mankind. =3B-) T= ypically something you put before your regular meat-n-potato looper and hoo= k it up to an expression pedal as a kind of performance instrument extensio= n. I guess...=20 MicroLooper is a simple looping utility. It allows the user to record a sam= ple (maximum length of 2 seconds) and edit the loop start and end points wh= ile playing back. Link:=20 http://www.maxforlive.com/library/device.php?id=3D1346 Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen = --_d0c82ca2-af31-4b87-9159-66381f22b8d1_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I would not swear on my soul but I think the Octatrack can do that.
Unl= ess I did not misunderstand what you meant.
But=2C well=2C after = all the OT is a sampler which can also loop...

Ser=

= Date: Thu=2C 8 Nov 2012 14:05:16 +0100
Subject: "Microlooper" (a Max 4 L= ive device)
From: perboysen@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-del= ight.com

Hi=2C

I just saw this passing by on my RSS reader. I= 've always been keen on that functionality but no normal loopers I know abo= ut will let you do this "sample style" mangling of real-time audio. IMHO a = big step for mankind. =3B-) Typically something you put before your regular= meat-n-potato looper and hook it up to an expression pedal as a kind of pe= rformance instrument extension. I guess... =3B

MicroLooper is a simple looping utility. It allows the user to rec= ord a sample (maximum length of 2 seconds) and edit the loop start and end = points while playing back.

Link: =3B
http://www.maxforlive.com/library/device.php= ?id=3D1346

= --_d0c82ca2-af31-4b87-9159-66381f22b8d1_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 13:30:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B56BA183475; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 13:30:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zQP15ShI/jGcfr7eQesoPxrPxouY84BTgiR37tzdTBI=; b=CYq2SM0ntQFjEas4wvDI2fHQlWIFzwcD98iCg+dc2LUeJfnm8S7LhqIVxtqOpKZieL 0cRJTv9u54qpElZkpZxdG6p+3VHSb9u8y4ZiMIjKdgfcRSWwq0OHs9qYWrFmDdlzMCO3 LJksHH0Lm0FXBqJDWCWk5XqWxYehiiM87yIkfP0rA7iybrwQzMDn3ziMO/rxgIw71t3n pP9ME8CaC5QAfGb1EkqCXhTYgAVBw0LMOvHPDSbWrAVBlkCK6yuzvqudijZRE628YwCN JDscslQ1UQPLXy4aPl3R6wEMgFQ+0OQ9AszJqKaZBPaE5aZrRT3WPBX1nEnG7PqBBaXj odWA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 21:30:51 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: totally OT but totally awesome From: eib halimski To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb1f8d813828004cdfbd8eb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119088 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 13:30:53 +0000 (UTC) --e89a8fb1f8d813828004cdfbd8eb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 the future is now i guess. enjoy folks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-NaxPjA7tYQ --e89a8fb1f8d813828004cdfbd8eb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 the future is now i guess. enjoy folks. --e89a8fb1f8d813828004cdfbd8eb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 13:38:09 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DBE5A18345B; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 13:38:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=gQjL0wbY72Mn9b9Qmk/lUlPFK7WCCBWfsCgD6NcVXUA=; b=j+47SOYtadk3nmSeWrCaV3Ne+Ul8RKe98FloPa6v5r9wC7l/E2Q+53kx47stvF8OCZ YZeBJHOHuAO2XEUWhwXnxgrRen80TYSZHkWRdz17xgFiwnZBArZEulqDHzlX8plKYBtl 1pK1SDdVHkmHXgH/Gn+ly1GQ9sTJY7qvUiq0bxHwoAFjjWyUarvU8325kmrb3AbDyBu7 vZ5IAKworFr2TiSgBXqt6RNElqSi6lHfY/FGg5+qX1d5UEIyYqRlw2ZxUqwqSo48oAQ3 wQQu1uL+VYpDZl9uPn4PUSVrJ5Igx2OfbNgbrkOOeq7fZUC2EDaGFpmbUapeOghbIp6K 8rOg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 14:38:07 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: "Microlooper" (a Max 4 Live device) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6dbe7f506385804cdfbf275 Resent-Message-ID: <5v64NB.A.mZE.AX7mQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119089 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 13:38:08 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6dbe7f506385804cdfbf275 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Well, I might have been too positive... I have note yet tried this device and I first thought that it will allow us to sweep the loop through the sample. But reading the full description this seems not to be possible. What a shame! As usual (with Ableton Live) it targets people that wants to "add electronics" rather than "play electronics". I did download it though and will check it out in action some day (but an album mix and live rehearsals are higher on the list for quite some time). Instructions : - Drag the Device onto an Audio Track - Arm the Audio Track holding the MicroLooper Device - Set 'Sample Length' to the desired value (ms) - Press 'Start Recording' to record audio into the buffer - Press 'Play' to playback the recorded sample - Use 'Loop Start Position' and 'Loop End Position' dials to focus the loop ('Loop Start Position' is relative to 'Loop End Position') - Monitor loop in waveform~ Randomize Loop Position : On/Off Random Speed : Speed at which randomization takes place 'Micro Pitch' adds the ability to control minor changes in pitch (+/- 50 cts) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Sergio Girardi wrote: > I would not swear on my soul but I think the Octatrack can do that. > Unless I did not misunderstand what you meant. > But, well, after all the OT is a sampler which can also loop... > > Ser > > ________________________________ > Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 14:05:16 +0100 > Subject: "Microlooper" (a Max 4 Live device) > From: perboysen@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > Hi, > > I just saw this passing by on my RSS reader. I've always been keen on that > functionality but no normal loopers I know about will let you do this > "sample style" mangling of real-time audio. IMHO a big step for mankind. ;-) > Typically something you put before your regular meat-n-potato looper and > hook it up to an expression pedal as a kind of performance instrument > extension. I guess... > > MicroLooper is a simple looping utility. It allows the user to record a > sample (maximum length of 2 seconds) and edit the loop start and end points > while playing back. > > > Link: > http://www.maxforlive.com/library/device.php?id=1346 > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen --0016e6dbe7f506385804cdfbf275 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, I might have been too positive... I have note yet tried this device a= nd I first thought that it will allow us to sweep the loop through the samp= le. But reading the full description this seems not to be possible. What a = shame! As usual (with Ableton Live) it targets people that wants to "a= dd electronics" rather than "play electronics". I did downlo= ad it though and will check it out in action some day (but an album mix and= live rehearsals are higher on the list for quite some time).

Instruc= tions :

- Drag the Device onto an Audio Track
- Arm the A= udio Track holding the MicroLooper Device
- Set '= Sample Length' to the desired value (ms)
- Press = 9;Start Recording' to record audio into the buffer
- Press = 9;Play' to playback the recorded sample
- Use '= Loop Start Position' and 'Loop End Position' dials to focus the= loop ('Loop Start Position' is relative to 'Loop End Position&= #39;)
- Monitor l= oop in waveform~

Randomize Loop Position : On/Off
Random Spee= d : Speed at which randomization takes place

'Micro Pitch' adds the ability to control minor ch= anges in pitch (+/- 50 cts)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.youtube.com/perboysen


On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at = 2:29 PM, Sergio Girardi <simpl= iflying@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would not swear on my soul but I think the Octatrack can do that.> Unless I did not misunderstand what you meant.
> But, well, aft= er all the OT is a sampler which can also loop...
>
> Ser
>
> ________________________________
> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012= 14:05:16 +0100
> Subject: "Microlooper" (a Max 4 Live devi= ce)
> From: perboysen@gmail.co= m
> To: Loopers-Del= ight@loopers-delight.com
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I = just saw this passing by on my RSS reader. I've always been keen on tha= t
> functionality but no normal loopers I know about will let you do this<= br>> "sample style" mangling of real-time audio. IMHO a big st= ep for mankind. ;-)
> Typically something you put before your regular= meat-n-potato looper and
> hook it up to an expression pedal as a kind of performance instrument<= br>> extension. I guess...
>
> MicroLooper is a simple loop= ing utility. It allows the user to record a
> sample (maximum length = of 2 seconds) and edit the loop start and end points
> while playing back.
>
>
> Link:
> http://www.maxforli= ve.com/library/device.php?id=3D1346
>
> Greetings from Swed= en
>
> Per Boysen
> www.pe= rboysen.com
> http:/= /www.youtube.com/perboysen

--0016e6dbe7f506385804cdfbf275-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 13:40:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9FC5F18347D; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 13:40:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_8b06f6ea-0668-4469-9113-14b61905bede_" X-Originating-IP: [217.92.117.212] From: Sergio Girardi Sender: To: Subject: RE: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 14:39:59 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,<3945756715345511554@unknownmsgid>,<20121108104330.096565B0.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr>,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2012 13:39:59.0591 (UTC) FILETIME=[8C1B4F70:01CDBDB6] Resent-Message-ID: <7IT-CB.A.8gE.wY7mQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119090 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 13:40:00 +0000 (UTC) --_8b06f6ea-0668-4469-9113-14b61905bede_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > who and what are you asking for being explained a bit more?I was referrin= g to Ben: "I use sometimes A=3D441 Hz when doing synthesis. Just because it= makes a perfect 100 samples cycle when using 44.100" Ser :) = --_8b06f6ea-0668-4469-9113-14b61905bede_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>=3B who and what are you =3Basking for being explained a bit mor= e?
I was referring to Ben: "I use sometimes A=3D441 Hz when doing synthesis. =3BJust because it makes a p= erfect 100 samples cycle when using 44.100"

Ser :)
= --_8b06f6ea-0668-4469-9113-14b61905bede_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 13:40:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6BE6E18347D; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 13:40:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_7d213d5c-c360-4b56-89e9-a5400c98d4b4_" X-Originating-IP: [217.92.117.212] From: Sergio Girardi Sender: To: Subject: RE: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 14:40:40 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,<3945756715345511554@unknownmsgid>,<20121108104330.096565B0.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr>,,,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2012 13:40:41.0164 (UTC) FILETIME=[A4E2D8C0:01CDBDB6] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119091 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 13:40:42 +0000 (UTC) --_7d213d5c-c360-4b56-89e9-a5400c98d4b4_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No=2C they went in Argentina. > Date: Thu=2C 8 Nov 2012 14:07:47 +0100 > Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? > From: perboysen@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > On Thu=2C Nov 8=2C 2012 at 1:58 PM=2C Lasse juul Kolding wrote: > > > > I remember reading somewhere a conspiracy that 440 was brought into > > play by the illuminati in 1939 because it creates tension and would > > prepare the general population for war... =3B) >=20 >=20 > I read that too... but my source had it to be the Nazis. I'm not sure > though=2C didn't they emigrate to the dark side of the moon in 1939? >=20 > Per =3B-) >=20 = --_7d213d5c-c360-4b56-89e9-a5400c98d4b4_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
No=2C they went in Argentina.

<= /div>>=3B Date: Thu=2C 8 Nov 2012 14:07:47 +0100
>=3B Subject: Re: A= =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz?
>=3B From: perboysen@gmail.com
>=3B To: Lo= opers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
>=3B On Thu=2C Nov 8=2C 2= 012 at 1:58 PM=2C Lasse juul Kolding <=3Bdubbilan@gmail.com>=3B wrote:<= br>>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B I remember reading somewhere a conspiracy= that 440 was brought into
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>=3B >=3B prepare the general p= opulation for war... =3B)
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B I read that too..= . but my source had it to be the Nazis. I'm not sure
>=3B though=2C di= dn't they emigrate to the dark side of the moon in 1939?
>=3B
>= =3B Per =3B-)
>=3B
= --_7d213d5c-c360-4b56-89e9-a5400c98d4b4_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 14:31:59 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9EA4B183476; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 14:31:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=rMcy9jbaLvFKzx2MYsPzxsdGqfPh6TDo6ReRS/3zqTc=; b=qYToG4RqjkMVSJotx+D1S4XbMbOJYKZq7xLwAPf+G9zu1FIpM3SPY2Ri7O2iAwzcQC Bo+fp0zBuZautATV0EOBrANAW9oAYiw9eYl0xaxnnA3/N2S3dAiC2hzXgdwLnWIbd8cV EHNXKJSe5vZHArGRekol6rHKM4F2dcaKS+JKtwGOBY/sYTtwaJ4X9JxhwwSa+Hy28ZrJ SpZwFm+/MvL2o1EOvfZ8wB1bFBZmVhE0e5UuxELueFdH4hwKCdW9gzt/NdkuwUpGiAIl 0fjz0bry1owo+UeyaWvpKe8ZVNhqr5ghl1oGF86v11ShwU2stj8KsaE4Rwup/+mU9Wog XGzw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 09:31:58 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: "Microlooper" (a Max 4 Live device) From: Sylvain Poitras To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b621c5893666c04cdfcb2b4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119092 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 14:31:59 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b621c5893666c04cdfcb2b4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>I first thought that it will allow us to sweep the loop through the sample If I understand what you're after, Emmanuel Reveneau's looper (soon to be released as VST) should allow something like this, since you can set loop start and end points with midi CC (you could set them both to form a small window and then move both points together with the expression pedal to sweep through the loop). An audio buffer in Bidule will also let you do that, as will xfade loop synth. Sylvain --047d7b621c5893666c04cdfcb2b4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>I first= thought that=A0= it will allow us to sweep the loop through the sample

If I understand what you're after,=A0Emmanuel Reveneau's loope= r (soon to be released as VST) should allow something like this, since you = can set loop start and end points with midi CC (you could set them both to = form a small window and then move both points together with the expression = pedal to sweep through the loop).

<= /span>
An audio buffer in Bidule will also let you do that, as will xfade loop s= ynth.

=
Sylvain
--047d7b621c5893666c04cdfcb2b4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 14:36:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39058183477; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 14:36:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=SbLTjgumVjNyxyb46tGZtoMp0zCNzsMeNKYepy81jEY=; b=TzzKzSRBopM5TrAga/3dS/2rcpsjfTKpIl4UJqzp/+4O9yGaKDuCfmup1vUqEDDYlb AVU3c4cvAwqiwAz0xk1Qr+CEv2fnNUrEDDDmfsE8hEQj81zjaQHtmtaj9VCVPFLixdTL bzcHAzmfQ8Uy0iD96L0cLFOZYl1e5wKY/LEFNGbFtqvYApFJG+5E0cCd69rfS/pC0s2e /UsrZDFbWRGxkGYzk/+W8sVASBaSMJUMe2Czqs+pg0C9WuBJn0ZuEHidq532UilWNVKh GhFmrfC5xuFOZHXPlr0y8/VaY0JRaTk7vkfWrY5eVVH7FhBI7pYmQVR5GoODCCP1yGGw GW+w== From: Simeon Harris Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-416057661 Subject: Re: "Microlooper" (a Max 4 Live device) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 14:36:52 +0000 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <25F3AF97-9FD6-4692-AFA8-07B2397C351B@googlemail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119093 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 14:36:56 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-416057661 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii i quite like this, but it would be very cool if you could sync the = "random speed" to the master tempo. that would be amazing. On 8 Nov 2012, at 14:31, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > >>I first thought that it will allow us to sweep the loop through the = sample >=20 > If I understand what you're after, Emmanuel Reveneau's looper (soon to = be released as VST) should allow something like this, since you can set = loop start and end points with midi CC (you could set them both to form = a small window and then move both points together with the expression = pedal to sweep through the loop). >=20 > An audio buffer in Bidule will also let you do that, as will xfade = loop synth. >=20 > Sylvain --Apple-Mail-1-416057661 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
i quite like this, but it would be very cool if you could sync the "random speed" to the master tempo. that would be amazing.

On 8 Nov 2012, at 14:31, Sylvain Poitras wrote:

>>I first thought that it will allow us to sweep the loop through the sample

If I understand what you're after, Emmanuel Reveneau's looper (soon to be released as VST) should allow something like this, since you can set loop start and end points with midi CC (you could set them both to form a small window and then move both points together with the expression pedal to sweep through the loop).

An audio buffer in Bidule will also let you do that, as will xfade loop synth.

Sylvain

--Apple-Mail-1-416057661-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 14:38:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F232183478; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 14:38:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=NWRFajbRIAI1swCmugLqk+9wRl4Mz8GCImr1IPzJ9u4=; b=XQo0bQ0MPVJ4Bm4lCMJPNqA373PXLrvV7Yx3V9dxOE8BqOKmYf+fQRdOZgSPzzW6FT G9jgWye4m1ciSkTHqL6pwueFR0DoSmD9hfIC8t0/3S60qH25P9GCLDCki36p9ms01Afw jipEHPjztxydG9a92fOD2J/z9TypQdJhYBLyW9aaG1lek4Swen6GGa/xZBRnnSlETHJn j5Jf+l1GuER26SnGrpMhf+caqp5XGXMjBEGR9SACTTTBm+2wYFYr8NK7gaRsT5v6yv6u kXFjg8DTwIP+/GWzZBJp2N29UPG8WIwGXeuAyrTN0XBSIyi3j+OWdHAfNqVt+n0C7Fwm mzHA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 15:38:49 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: "Microlooper" (a Max 4 Live device) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119094 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 14:38:50 +0000 (UTC) Great! I guess Emmanuel Reveneau's looper release will be announced on this list. In EDP terminology the functionality would be described as "seamless Loop Windowing sweeping capability" ;-) I'd love to have acces to both 1) the "loop length" as understood by the range in the sample between the start point and the loop point 2) instantly increasing or decreasing the time, in the sample, for both the start point and the loop point, kind of like sliding the looping range earlier or later in the sample. With this one can concur the Universe ;-) Per On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: >>>I first thought that it will allow us to sweep the loop through the sample > > If I understand what you're after, Emmanuel Reveneau's looper (soon to be > released as VST) should allow something like this, since you can set loop > start and end points with midi CC (you could set them both to form a small > window and then move both points together with the expression pedal to sweep > through the loop). > > An audio buffer in Bidule will also let you do that, as will xfade loop > synth. > > Sylvain From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 14:39:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA2EC183478; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 14:39:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=TztjP+Sox0kxJoacHR+rijh5P1Apj1pooAqZDRFReUk=; b=huWVjQCtX886NdA9CWMyKtdXil3vHWt1EL3ZHXwr0W4Gw/2oVgZL093EK6POKKdK0p NxwTKHjqM3hvjkl0SK5iSHuysfvBQqDeaHCdYIV71pmDAnCvB+W9u3B8D+gGg5qo8J/M 392txcMPLNqAp3LjdDuzegaeqOAj6sJfkOrcfyKl2+J1eahgwrbtwuWgA7GGu+o9fMqt LyMUTNjejHhwUYZsvUIeXBDR3YK5vk7LXVbDvkHt3fHV6Rvdtr4HCWlWzcHYMSprUq2W wmUz29UgrkNrWr7goe1MEacpo4JNd4x1By0jqc1qaHRc6GZILqhTLGGoU6U9hZIGZFB6 9QSA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <3945756715345511554@unknownmsgid> <20121108104330.096565B0.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 15:39:41 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? From: Lasse juul Kolding To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119095 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 14:39:42 +0000 (UTC) Ehh... I'm pretty sure they stayed a couple of years more, remember something about a couple of rather rough years in human history around there. But afterwards it would seem like they went to the dark side of the moon... ;) On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > > > I read that too... but my source had it to be the Nazis. I'm not sure > though, didn't they emigrate to the dark side of the moon in 1939? > > Per ;-) > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 14:53:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A123C18345D; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 14:53:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1352386401; bh=2SvMTRgvlLRSKOJV7MoIxLg3KojB2uOVZVe3peym44M=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Date:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Message-Id:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer; b=nKKLoIRNQROIy+iLFoXPUVhln06p8JJu7H/g3LmTz5tgcyrOycuA9+dOq3tULxhIKQy4NWmd8ZzY+fQIiy/SVSg5nRJM/qxAvH+PoX/MqkYGyKgxyage6clspBOYAyWNchTDmofIPBChS1eKgbYgXxxgy4h6YlkY0pnuZ7O+t6c= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 258014.26086.bm@smtp147.mail.ukl.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: KYn96A0VM1mU65OhzNMxUrqjQBBpDeCr4TXaWvJP_dj.uob MxxO1_6OoMR8IhqeotjQLKR6eOJ4HgaRWi6kHMUiG6BOAk9Qvd_7RjHiUxPN YRDef6xKZULft5eHyu0YWUKjQ0CLEuh90XxAqHrD5H5zKY7wa.ZpsKkpmxL3 l4c4XbSgNqQxNoNjwaxQ0DKaKi0owLp3KH1plNtycskic1BXghCaSuLOiw5s uNk8XMcDKkYv7gp2JOdeDWcxt4l4tLp8ujVM9NEtjIda4jsqlRd6K8LNW20v C27VtdtsbzVAjzFeyZ9h7qm8roMZ7GBlV82ndXXKoOdM04OM6r0yvv5hAwfd zMrAsq6mgP05XQwm1yXMLRtGMJfliO67mxHHJDFVre6xy41qfdCMatxfJ4hO s32sHcjXpOUVIGprIv7ShtgDzpzM4zBTd3AQV6fA0a7igK9hLwA-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: 75CdczOswBChen.W3AbLhaW8TlC96TVo5w-- From: Ben To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 15:53:21 +0100 Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <20121108155321.FB71F5B0.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: nPOPuk Ver 2.16 Resent-Message-ID: <2z-ukB.A.DpF.id8mQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119096 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 14:53:22 +0000 (UTC) Well in fact, I sometimes generate single cycle wav file for different purposes. If I use the sampling frequency of 44.1khz, a single cycle @A=441Hz has a duration of 1/441 second that means 44100/441=100 samples. It's then is easy to create a seamless loop. (A single sine cycle for instance) If I use the 440Hz, I would give me 44100/441=100.22 samples. The loop is not so perfect and may click in some case. Or to have a perfect loop I would need several cycles or apply some crossfading. I hope this is now more clear. Ben -------------------------------------------------- Sergio Girardi wrote: (08/11/2012 14:39) > > > who and what are you asking for being explained a bit more?I was referring to Ben: "I use sometimes A=441 Hz when doing synthesis. Just because it makes a perfect 100 samples cycle when using 44.100" > Ser :) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 15:02:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F305183474; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 15:02:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=T2zzcbgLwJOlvGu+MyBGN3cjXYd9Tw2tPQpLjQGYzjY=; b=0ylwxsbbQ5e8J/vX8dxEGiqjrkpl/TclP0T/C2EdhuguGzbuYBfINdXkcGqdusv/q+ +mc6xwtjInk5oKHopJ7ZrGTCwQcwSlygYsz47TuNJXB/vjWAtfjCZvL4hjB3HwN8VWPb 4z/1zdVLUQwWUB4YwUceLroc/TZTi7VgDeIsMOtOHdiS6dv7lqXy44zkEJF/D2UUOOpf lA43IcUJTsuQHqgPVThtgE+VqJra+8r1fLg5MWuaaYsBSmsPklYt2Ly5+BDWNOF++aKr 9kZI7AKEOAj8yt7pAOvfXnaKeba8ZjlgQMYdXtjurqsn3KAVAQRFMyEYuDzAK0LwbsCq Cn4w== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 07:02:23 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: totally OT but totally awesome From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d044517f166170e04cdfd1fdf Resent-Message-ID: <__c4xB.A.sxF.Bm8mQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119097 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 15:02:25 +0000 (UTC) --f46d044517f166170e04cdfd1fdf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Very cool! I loved the look of all that machined metal in the controllers. On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 5:30 AM, eib halimski wrote: > the future is now i guess. enjoy folks. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-NaxPjA7tYQ > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com --f46d044517f166170e04cdfd1fdf Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very cool! I loved the look of all that machined metal in the controllers.<= br>
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 5:30 AM, eib halim= ski <halimzainal@gmail.com> wrote:
the future is now i guess. enjoy folks.



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--f46d044517f166170e04cdfd1fdf-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 15:45:31 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 62E42183475; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 15:45:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_2bc30951-0b6d-4f6d-a8fa-5af22c8c215e_" X-Originating-IP: [217.92.117.212] From: Sergio Girardi Sender: To: Subject: RE: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 16:45:29 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20121108155321.FB71F5B0.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> References: ,<20121108155321.FB71F5B0.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2012 15:45:30.0232 (UTC) FILETIME=[14B7EF80:01CDBDC8] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119098 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 15:45:31 +0000 (UTC) --_2bc30951-0b6d-4f6d-a8fa-5af22c8c215e_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It sounds interesting=2C because for example in the Octatrack I can choose = the length in time or in samples.I would love to hear the opinion of the ot= hers here :) > From: benoitruelle@yahoo.fr > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Thu=2C 8 Nov 2012 15:53:21 +0100 > Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? >=20 > Well in fact=2C I sometimes generate single cycle wav file for different > purposes. >=20 > If I use the sampling frequency of 44.1khz=2C a single cycle @A=3D441Hz=20 > has a duration of 1/441 second that means 44100/441=3D100 samples. It's=20 > then is easy to create a seamless loop.=20 > (A single sine cycle for instance) > If I use the 440Hz=2C I would give me 44100/441=3D100.22 samples. The loo= p > is not so perfect and may click in some case. Or to have a perfect=20 > loop I would need several cycles or apply some crossfading. >=20 > I hope this is now more clear. >=20 > Ben >=20 >=20 > -------------------------------------------------- > Sergio Girardi wrote: > (08/11/2012 14:39) >=20 > >=20 > > > who and what are you asking for being explained a bit more?I was refe= rring to Ben: "I use sometimes A=3D441 Hz when doing synthesis. Just becaus= e it makes a perfect 100 samples cycle when using 44.100" > > Ser :) =20 >=20 = --_2bc30951-0b6d-4f6d-a8fa-5af22c8c215e_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It sounds interesting=2C because for example in the Octatrack I can choose = the =3Blength =3Bin time or in samples.
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>=3B Date: Thu=2C 8 Nov 2012 15:53:21 +0100
>=3B= Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz?
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= --_2bc30951-0b6d-4f6d-a8fa-5af22c8c215e_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 16:03:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6760183476; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 16:03:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=g4w5EvmnT6Ojrv/M3NX2jFsmaEnfseQ0gfQS2yJs5dw=; b=OCxGmXtuHWKozBL1YdgCe4hQKF4v/zSWddE68CZflUMVzHqhP0NdmSgvakCKlS7MIn VsFuNGv1zW+S6SQaALh5DTZgWxE2Q78SOssbd9oV4HoZf7gAznSHiYrGXDVrLPX/lZTo ukUmW/LwIIhPTTUIjbrLplf68D2x6sCGpLpzbMmfD5j8ObEtQIjyhnMVShviG44gG4US HKkBLh3/Mj+6nntPXsZrVPnKmON03LCJJcoUV54bkMwxkKewR+Q7oIWQ/zKnOiZKXOxM DT/nDn4idcAH9MZyH+ujVZYunDlvPpBaT7BB00+i13SmF6EbFPsvQVzgTdB0A94q2tuE tAvA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20121108155321.FB71F5B0.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 17:03:48 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <0XY4rD.A.VdG.lf9mQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119099 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 16:03:49 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Sergio Girardi wrote: > I would love to hear the opinion of the others here :) I think having the option to chose between samples and absolute time for measuring a piece of digital audio is a must-have tool if one produces recordings. And when it comes to using "sample" I think one-sample accuracy is needed. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 16:09:01 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3622F18345D; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 16:09:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=g4w5EvmnT6Ojrv/M3NX2jFsmaEnfseQ0gfQS2yJs5dw=; b=SAwiPsXmCLTUM+0WnFlwv6z/iVAukUhwd0PC6HOnXDJzEmgSBEvFRXheDS2sNix/2z RzcHPiKDI712kADOvrTj0neM/zNAeI7nZkdIoBjBxG8sL9wbQgJGlRRI0HBCDngPjV31 QTP1zsntGFckfeVjehAYh8ys22Q7IdR3bpXKAPbLEPB0DU9Tlah0gdKDIlOwd8bVj+5r dsdnIaGJTk7f1l/icEKqhxucJl62wb1TOcr/G0GAVYifQ2wNH814Vm3H6sTMB6QFZauJ 8OstgWOL+DxN7fIGgqgIr58zo8jr0YpPsRJVyr1S/sdmplvQRWleppd1CU3U8f1/cjQ2 VDcQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20121108155321.FB71F5B0.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 17:08:58 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <-GG7zB.A.FoG.dk9mQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119100 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 16:09:01 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Sergio Girardi wrote: > I would love to hear the opinion of the others here :) I think having the option to chose between samples and absolute time for measuring a piece of digital audio is a must-have tool if one produces recordings. And when it comes to using "sample" I think one-sample accuracy is needed. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 16:31:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C3041183474; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 16:31:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=YTP5dr0isOfcusfm+k4RS2Lnxz/aHVTqEmqFlHD+nKc=; b=fGSLtG4ngqcd2QICI8EPgcBqYrQWzw4v1/UNVsmDxbUpXS7sohVWCdzAn3JjH9tt2b RRiAeTHnhkvr97pgSchNTMKh79P8JXBAktLeycZU4Mttc+m7APqDSgc7uxIBG9yceSRa pWasWGDoR5+QOsBZ/bdGM3VI8cQnqb5UdxUiRWWuN3SRktYbza7rLpWEEixraN4D1wu6 Y9XgyqO2/ieK/H32+rMRPccH1QS0EDwKypGAzsJJvqAUt5VxMAr0VrfJ45w2VijPti6Q Znc5Yhkmb7ewJ9FcJXIEuthQ1DifwtWm3SewczVtDwGNFABXvJF9bl9coV4Clpb6T469 Vh5w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 08:31:19 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: In Browser music collaboration From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119101 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 16:31:21 +0000 (UTC) http://www.jamwithchrome.com/ Interesting Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 16:42:02 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C3C5183475; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 16:42:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=SIFdV+P3RRmBVS2N8t9FoqHN3W1ZxLisjsaEccFaVjE=; b=WRTDnidhreNdPOR0C/EerISCPR4Qf6VPrPPUfiqsRZz61V1D/j0kHtgMHfvzjlpobN teR+8e+xT7TDmCFBkGZq8LhCr0j398aLWMTygt5LqOBaSiA9cGnGfQVZO0tQ6DlEAZgS bQQwN/qSXxHSdbfMDwUH8YUF0W2J4yZQxhxh0Vm8GVaAHVxyCdfpgIrVBrySYJf++Oa/ LHdKyyvMIRJTaATgUBxP3z/M3Bo+BAdyZiUw8uPA9zsVscs5iH6oi/mK5LiEGdMaxeGc HaDFOqgABwKFC6Bk/niai0//k0bHZTt2RF9tsP4+vSSk0E8r0ax80d6461BpDTOCvsRO MSDg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 00:42:00 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: In Browser music collaboration From: eib halimski To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb1f8d89deb6104cdfe8335 Resent-Message-ID: <_GTleD.A.ACH.ZD-mQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119102 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 16:42:01 +0000 (UTC) --e89a8fb1f8d89deb6104cdfe8335 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 love it. thanks for sharing kevin :) On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 12:31 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > http://www.jamwithchrome.com/ > > Interesting > > Kevin > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > --e89a8fb1f8d89deb6104cdfe8335 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable love it. thanks for sharing kevin :)

On F= ri, Nov 9, 2012 at 12:31 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
http://www.jamwithchrome.com/

Interesting

Kevin

--
Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.<= br>
- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision: =A0http://www.minds-eye.org
Video = http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos


--e89a8fb1f8d89deb6104cdfe8335-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 16:45:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DEF5183474; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 16:45:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=oEo9v/+jA5zRm6UL1YQlizkCPPhMU+Zm5SbllMPyDJc=; b=UpjETVDIYH4H1pebZqRhIf9uPWTNCjhY6tRfnFsrkkgGhuGnZmXS/jrJhA34znAuWf ukRbCi8UujBeMt/dd+RdYxYVCySRNOWn4syNmTAZlzQ9M1YVQPOpbpoP1zx/Qh4HXJXf DYj3uQzMVu6zx1RHkBLB3Bjaklx3Qooeosl9pstgrARcCYSCGX6jbAFgu1GrsqwiQanW fPHNrSeS1aj/JrPhwV7iDX9lr4En5YVKM22CRQ8M9kW/RajrBCw9CTqSSJE5iapdeQMy AMtrDY3hLlhd9ue0gww5w/mO+7MUHmgsEEvCAA0wwquLZc7P90YS8mfBNpB0ednMSTqU 66fA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 08:45:47 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: totally OT but totally awesome From: Todd Elliott To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d040712592ab6ea04cdfe917a Resent-Message-ID: <94c7MB.A.JJH.9G-mQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119103 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 16:45:49 +0000 (UTC) --f46d040712592ab6ea04cdfe917a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Don't just admire his you tubes! Buy his records: http://authorandpunisher.bandcamp.com T On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Art Simon wrote: > Very cool! I loved the look of all that machined metal in the controllers. > > > On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 5:30 AM, eib halimski wrote: > >> the future is now i guess. enjoy folks. >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-NaxPjA7tYQ >> > > > > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > > -- http://toaster.bandcamp.com --f46d040712592ab6ea04cdfe917a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Don't just admire his you tubes! Buy his records:

http://authorandpunisher.ba= ndcamp.com

T

On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> = wrote:
Very cool! I loved the look of all that machined metal in the controllers.<= div class=3D"HOEnZb">


O= n Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 5:30 AM, eib halimski <halimzainal@gmail.com> wrote:
the future is now i guess. enjoy folks.



--
Art Simon
simart@gmail.com




-- http://toaster.= bandcamp.com
--f46d040712592ab6ea04cdfe917a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 16:49:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D71D0183478; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 16:49:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ZL2djorU17CqeCEFrPtRzRcn7RSzRRsslZH1JtFu7Ak=; b=AyAtHbfNXcEaQJRWBMfQEaJu+OCCCredkd2nVgMw+EM9Jd/FDsUOl8W182HjhXKx9y /d2iVWW9dY67YIOWHzxtfaIU7haIXDPSBcs+FPDQ/6dThTuDg1NdSQ2Gj2DSzs8YeLVj YJcr1jLtOUa8vGvcbIMqx57WVgghd/5lL86t2BSQtvQXkm2f/mq0LPZlkv7950lwlF4t +18gQTGvCc936lzHnAj7r6bUWOyGZ+cI0yKtHE1H8rqhF/VhROctFNz+4AxzXgDyw0zc oBmp+3ngaUtWfqaW/JWHYBxBy1oMPcUovW0ShTuinibxM4u4a7Zkwhtu/TDYlyG09U+U nMDQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 00:49:18 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: totally OT but totally awesome From: eib halimski To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04440094c28ed204cdfe9df9 Resent-Message-ID: <0KUWAD.A.hQH.QK-mQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119104 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 16:49:20 +0000 (UTC) --f46d04440094c28ed204cdfe9df9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 bought! On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 12:45 AM, Todd Elliott wrote: > Don't just admire his you tubes! Buy his records: > > http://authorandpunisher.bandcamp.com > > T > > > On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Art Simon wrote: > >> Very cool! I loved the look of all that machined metal in the controllers. >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 5:30 AM, eib halimski wrote: >> >>> the future is now i guess. enjoy folks. >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-NaxPjA7tYQ >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Art Simon >> simart@gmail.com >> >> > > > -- > http://toaster.bandcamp.com > --f46d04440094c28ed204cdfe9df9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable bought!

On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 12:45 AM, = Todd Elliott <toddbert@gmail.com> wrote:
Don't just admire his you tubes! Buy his records:

http://au= thorandpunisher.bandcamp.com

T


On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> = wrote:
Very cool! I loved the look of all that machined metal in the controllers.<= div>


On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 5:30 AM,= eib halimski <halimzainal@gmail.com> wrote:
the future is now i guess. enjoy folks.



<= font color=3D"#888888">--
Art Simon
simart@gmail.com




--
http://toaster.bandcamp.com=

--f46d04440094c28ed204cdfe9df9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 16:59:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7A2F18345D; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 16:59:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-424625954 Message-Id: <28C1A8FC-C44D-49E2-B86E-E5A701FCB558@ubergadget.com> From: Revfever Subject: Re: totally OT but totally awesome Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 08:59:40 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119105 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 16:59:43 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-424625954 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Excellent! Is this a sign that maybe we are soon to see a popular Retro-return of 'Industrial' music? I'd certainly be OK with that! Cheers- Rev.Fever Portlandia http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental1 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental2 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/skult > On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Art Simon wrote: > Very cool! I loved the look of all that machined metal in the > controllers. > > On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 5:30 AM, eib halimski > wrote: > the future is now i guess. enjoy folks. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-NaxPjA7tYQ > > --Apple-Mail-2-424625954 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Excellent!  Is this a sign = that maybe we are soon to see a popular Retro-return of 'Industrial' = music?  I'd certainly be OK with that!

Cheers-
Portlandia
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
Very cool! I = loved the look of all that machined metal in the = controllers.

On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 5:30 AM, eib halimski = <halimzainal@gmail.com> wrote:
the future is now = i guess. enjoy folks.



= --Apple-Mail-2-424625954-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 8 17:45:04 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 81BFD183464; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 17:45:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_a04ac947-5e9a-4a3b-95a8-b71a7e2eca1e_" X-Originating-IP: [184.145.20.52] From: Jack Cattedra To: Subject: RE: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 17:45:01 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,,<20121108155321.FB71F5B0.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr>,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2012 17:45:02.0521 (UTC) FILETIME=[C7BC6290:01CDBDD8] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119106 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 17:45:04 +0000 (UTC) --_a04ac947-5e9a-4a3b-95a8-b71a7e2eca1e_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Most definitely. I usually go by zero-crossing points to avoid clicks=2C bu= t when going for the precision=2C I agree with Per. I'd also like to add=2C= the ability to control the stereo seperation or between stereo and mono is= useful too. I find it easier to loop one mono channel then two in stereo l= oll > I think having the option to chose between samples and absolute time > for measuring a piece of digital audio is a must-have tool if one > produces recordings. And when it comes to using "sample" I think > one-sample accuracy is needed. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >=20 = --_a04ac947-5e9a-4a3b-95a8-b71a7e2eca1e_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Most definitely. I usually go by zero-crossing points to avoid clicks=2C bu= t when going for the precision=2C I agree with Per. I'd also like to add=2C= the ability to control the stereo seperation or between stereo and mono is= useful too. I find it easier to loop one mono channel then two in stereo l= oll

>=3B I think having the option to chose between samples and ab= solute time
>=3B for measuring a piece of digital audio is a must= -have tool if one
>=3B produces recordings. And when it comes to using= "sample" I think
>=3B one-sample accuracy is needed.
>=3B
&g= t=3B Greetings from Sweden
>=3B
>=3B Per Boysen
>=3B www.pe= rboysen.com
>=3B http://www.youtube.com/perboysen
>=3B
=
= --_a04ac947-5e9a-4a3b-95a8-b71a7e2eca1e_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 9 04:36:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 028C7183474; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 04:36:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=QJJYoDSqYPKcBgiqzoMm+uS2Yz+PfNomzpT0J/wD7Ro=; b=S1aMVKWLTCdTMTJZRsPv0g5oafvEzyR0Ocnr22c+aZpSBnVYhCe7UkmzFI3FrAV8Tt AXBsjQOCvuqKSKLOLhU3DK2QCRxj4qV0e1jtJpDnWn+uc162IhGYLBsD8KXBe0QNoI6D 8Qd327zVI0eeajiZUCt7H3x/0j9WVtKnKLCd/DhvToHURBUZUv0FXWan1PWFHxRhlZSz qDj59fsLoSgYL1CK2RkJ7rObaYKhs/5KWCbuJssLuYeKrhY5d8UIPdGQpaWr5dQjBniu i0sL3/V1901j3MjtPcOVeTeexeuL5VlexADHeCusonibsG+rlaOtrBFMnlloEK+73IDe uCwA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 23:36:21 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: "Microlooper" (a Max 4 Live device) From: Sylvain Poitras To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3434965be36104ce087e42 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119107 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 04:36:22 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b3434965be36104ce087e42 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Per, Check this video I made playing with xfade loop synth: http://youtu.be/BhmuqWKmdmM?hd=1 (sorry about the jittering image, I must've gotten my codecs mixed up). This seems to fit the bill, right? It works better going right to left... going the other way, if I move too fast, the playing head can jump out of the window and then has to play through the loop before getting back to it. I'm sure there's a fix, I just ran out of time this evening. Sylvain On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Great! I guess Emmanuel Reveneau's looper release will be announced on > this list. In EDP terminology the functionality would be described as > "seamless Loop Windowing sweeping capability" ;-) I'd love to have > acces to both > > 1) the "loop length" as understood by the range in the sample between > the start point and the loop point > > 2) instantly increasing or decreasing the time, in the sample, for > both the start point and the loop point, kind of like sliding the > looping range earlier or later in the sample. > > With this one can concur the Universe ;-) > > Per > > --047d7b3434965be36104ce087e42 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Per,=A0
Chec= k this video I made playing with xfade loop synth:=A0http://youtu.be/BhmuqWKmdmM?hd=3D1 (sorry abou= t the jittering image, I must've gotten my codecs mixed up).

This seems = to fit the bill, right?

It works better going right to left... =A0going the other= way, if I move too fast, the playing head can jump out of the window and t= hen has to play through the loop before getting back to it. =A0I'm sure= there's a fix, I just ran out of time this evening.

Sylvain
=
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Per Boysen <= span dir=3D"ltr"><perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Great! I guess Emmanuel Reveneau's looper release will= be announced on
this list. In EDP terminology the functionality would be described as
"seamless Loop Windowing sweeping capability" ;-) =A0I'd love= to have
acces to both

1) the "loop length" as understood by the range in the sample bet= ween
the start point and the loop point

2) instantly increasing or decreasing the time, in the sample, for
both the start point and the loop point, kind of like sliding the
looping range earlier or later in the sample.

With this one can concur the Universe ;-)

Per

--047d7b3434965be36104ce087e42-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 9 11:00:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C6FD5183473; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 11:00:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=wJGIxJD+scxRKuXHuGxuY2yNcHLwiyokkCU/RrWrLfk=; b=npDRLN+xPEM8gZCQBO6ggUI3RpjNy+U48Ao05pWMVDXQlzfpx7Kety7NVtzksaVBx7 k/5BDP3g30tS/g5dK2IXaZo2HsDwqmFKAMDxrO6dO8VHvxhwkVsdKgPBDQdlUJYOLHwD fj6wlgra28OTLawqJgQCMkQ96j7I897P+nSOYqEp6c2TEq985jKYKuOCPVpGNsRijIlC wN/yCHQgAyF3LGBLZ7sOck11kWFhOzU6fEoUgmNVd8mn7YBzoSmE+Vy0B8YxPcTYJ3/P qpv2lNx6+4mIJxLvb1Wkh06lLPDhn/eWB5A12qzTu3LNXGYnDDohVvCZHvs3D5LcXz1f h1bQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:00:45 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: "Microlooper" (a Max 4 Live device) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119108 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 11:00:46 +0000 (UTC) Great point, Sylain! Crossfade Loop Synth is among my favorites too. (Big hand for Expert Slepers, thank you!!!). I knew about the two parameters Loop Start and Loop End but I've never been able to find one parameter for simultaneous control of the both. That is what you are doing in Bidule with that Start/End fader - so now I am wondering: is that a "control" group you built in Bidule? The way I have been doing what you do in that video is to use the same external MIDI control message stream, attach it to both parameters but add one off-set module to one of them. That off-set module is my "quick fix work-around" for not having that mysterious parameter to control them both (and the range between them). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 5:36 AM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > > Per, > Check this video I made playing with xfade loop synth: > http://youtu.be/BhmuqWKmdmM?hd=1 (sorry about the jittering image, I must've > gotten my codecs mixed up). > > This seems to fit the bill, right? > > It works better going right to left... going the other way, if I move too > fast, the playing head can jump out of the window and then has to play > through the loop before getting back to it. I'm sure there's a fix, I just > ran out of time this evening. > > Sylvain > > On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> Great! I guess Emmanuel Reveneau's looper release will be announced on >> this list. In EDP terminology the functionality would be described as >> "seamless Loop Windowing sweeping capability" ;-) I'd love to have >> acces to both >> >> 1) the "loop length" as understood by the range in the sample between >> the start point and the loop point >> >> 2) instantly increasing or decreasing the time, in the sample, for >> both the start point and the loop point, kind of like sliding the >> looping range earlier or later in the sample. >> >> With this one can concur the Universe ;-) >> >> Per >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 9 16:08:26 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41A51183466; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 16:08:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jdh+S6NJzduil8xakOliHK+KOcluGUR6ctmMtHPfMhw=; b=kHvTqdrlgdPVdJsDGLqYJy0H5+GYGj32n9bsvFI/gTYjzNBRFEFMsmqVOyIlyrfZbp 1Kgo7NFAjj5L24lmPasyUPx6e6++18BcrXhF+1mcyk1IMexSlxsBEhOwoeV/K273OYM/ +L+2bWkgZuT6fsJaK7LwlRHTJ3G8xLlMqVZBeGULsRqQBJNQUEiS0XnKtTfQTXNjUyM3 vlnP2Aaqk29/xI4eEpiyO1o68t5NmtWecQZzCglw6daFadr3P83T13GM8awryTrh04JN e9VNhoDB/3/B9BfHfPiPRfeNMgeDuzhbAk34hOFNZuH3wHKf5WoWjR/q2VrOcaRcXg+K /3Bg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 08:08:24 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Looperlative LP2 feedback control pedal? From: Ben Edwards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b621c5854d0aa04ce12291a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119109 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 16:08:26 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b621c5854d0aa04ce12291a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 - *To*: *Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com* - *From*: *willgough@gmail.com* - *Subject*: *Re: Looperlative LP2* - *Date*: *Thu, 31 May 2012 10:08:57 +0000* ------------------------------ Wonder what impedance the LP2 is expecting? I tried an EV-5 on a first generation Ground Control foot controller and it gave me very limited range because it expected a 250k Ohm pedal and the EV-5 was something like 50k Ohm...I then went to a Boss FV-50H pedal and all was right with the world. Good luck! ------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------- I tried an EV-5 also and it didn't work. How do you use the Boss FV-50H for the feedback control? Do you just run a 1/4 out of the FV50 into the feedback port of the LP2 while your instrument is going directly into the input of the LP2? Anyone have any luck here and care to explain more about it? --047d7b621c5854d0aa04ce12291a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Wonder what impedance the LP2 is expecting? I tried an EV-5 on a first=20 generation Ground Control foot controller and it gave me very limited=20 range because it expected a 250k Ohm pedal and the EV-5 was something=20 like 50k Ohm...I then went to a Boss FV-50H pedal and all was right with the world.

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I tried an EV-5 also and it didn't work.=A0 How do you use the Boss FV-5= 0H=20 for the feedback control?=A0 Do you just run a 1/4 out of the FV50 into=20 the feedback port of the LP2 while your instrument is going directly=20 into the input of the LP2?=A0 Anyone have any luck here and care to=20 explain more about it?


--047d7b621c5854d0aa04ce12291a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 9 18:06:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48FF7183473; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 18:06:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:x-priority:in-reply-to:date :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=mFfreR7jjhkRvLcjaDzmYOiNmeopf0yRLIUZyjywFAs=; b=dmTCbJ26DP+QPVBrP8BZdT9RPCCLMXzs4Y+GxKeXRHQmfVPedEHSmweIzlFr4ddUsq y5XXYvfz3fuLNoCv1md4ClJHk7twmrNbovBsbsz1kpapmsXA18t3oJ7TORZ1DU5+j8+/ 7ooT0KQb+wCWYOx2GIaVsGLj6e57lzjih/hxNKNaN662tPQMrr1Hq/lAXm9sGWgDZWX+ 6F/uNcG2i8bV0IC0PVcuEAoUVzZIMcgtLIAnwElhht1OrB2w7n6yJEQSLvWv6upblYO2 6LOQMj6bQTkO2bKuMlCXeHola9tVe8OCethwup9GMIc9qaQa8YT63yYvwTVOrDlv1tK0 3BOw== Subject: Re: Loopers in the news Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-70-515031160 From: Matthias Grob X-Priority: 3 (Normal) In-Reply-To: <48a0f6d7757c13ea76b239da638b6d15.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 15:06:25 -0300 Message-Id: References: <20121107162512.4975318348F@arsenic.violacea.com> <48a0f6d7757c13ea76b239da638b6d15.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: <3xem8D.A.YHE.zYUnQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119110 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 18:06:43 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-70-515031160 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii is this the page you are talking about? = http://www.guitarplayer.com/article/welcome-to-guitar-players-holiday-2012= -links-page/149664 it does not mention a CD...does it? I think it would be great for all of us if such success stories would be = posted to http://Livelooping.org we get over 200 visits/day now, so whatever you can share will be seen! On 07.11.2012, at 16:30, billwalker@baymoon.com wrote: > Yes thats right, its Bill.......... > That name mistake issue has been going on for Rick and I since we = were > little kids so don't give it a second thought Dutch :-) and thanks for > the shout out regardless. >=20 > Yes our CD is finally out, both in download and physical form (CD = baby). > I am very happy with how it sounds. Erdem and I have been = collaborating > since I visited him in 2008, hopefully we will also release the = sessions > from Istanbul as well as an all acoustic set that features my acoustic = lap > steel guitar, Erdem's viol-guitar, and lots of prepared acoustic = timbres. > Thanks > Bill >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-70-515031160 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii is = this the page you are talking about?
it does not = mention a CD...does it?

I think it would be = great for all of us if such success stories would be posted to http://Livelooping.org
we = get over 200 visits/day now, so whatever you can share will be = seen!

On 07.11.2012, at 16:30, billwalker@baymoon.com = wrote:

Yes thats right, its Bill..........
 That = name mistake issue has been going on for Rick and I since we = were
little kids so don't give it a second thought Dutch :-) and = thanks for
the shout out regardless.

Yes our CD is finally = out, both in download and physical form (CD baby).
I am very happy = with how it sounds.  Erdem and I have been collaborating
since I = visited him in 2008, hopefully we will also release the sessions
from = Istanbul as well as an all acoustic set that features my acoustic = lap
steel guitar, Erdem's viol-guitar, and lots of prepared acoustic = timbres.
Thanks
= Bill





= --Apple-Mail-70-515031160-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 9 20:15:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 33C4E183474; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 20:15:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2012 21:15:19 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20121109201519.119160@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Subject: Re: Researching micro tunings "hands-on" (SCALA) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX192Ug8eYv12ummOu9+MSyL/zgucLhvU/DQu0sunyY E16RJiVWpMQu2fcNLHDDzp5oVbS2HmmsQPhw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: AAHvcOhPeSEqW8h4kHUhKUd+IGRvb4Dy Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119111 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 20:15:20 +0000 (UTC) Hi Per don't know if this has come up in the 432Hz thread. But if you want to explore microtonal music (and experimental scales beyond) - the must-use tool is (or at least 8 years ago it was) SCALA: http://www.huygens-fokker.org/scala/ Take a look at it. It has some amazing features. Again, it has been many years I've looked into that subject... best regards Buzap From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 9 20:46:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44748183465; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 20:46:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ge6TBJJaV54/Ibg7j5IHCZ9DZwvx7fk71A0QToNFSpM=; b=ZPv0LRegxiJmhq4z4VfJOECHc4fAgS4W0Ycpkuuqsq2PilxTqSVTMnvUcjhovObTXG aUTWtpQbdD7veNwOjQNOENrwd1/d7dLt+3K5WTZba2E4uNa/uApHaFytc4QQLEU89Qkt 0g6JjX9+nCFzV2SrgPksSm4Ez8Q11M0uYbWFsbsOaNkeoAjwa9TbmnV9nVe7FoS75qb1 w1vH6e4e5Mf9Di/e8NdQSIxQjcWQangr+bIV1GNBq8uHktEbeLlXXviuUespgoTMDGQr 5A0FEIs1dxK2acZcKTnV4Pwyd7DzcNWGVt+EErNrEnnQZh7n1UE2Z13wju2yV5anKaK+ SCcg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20121109201519.119160@gmx.net> References: <20121109201519.119160@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 21:46:50 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Researching micro tunings "hands-on" (SCALA) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119112 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 20:46:52 +0000 (UTC) Hi Buzrap, Thank you for chiming in with a good recommendation! Scala is great. I do already have Max Magic Microtuner, by Victor Cerullo, that takes care of those things for me. I typically use it to convert micro tunal scale files between different applications and instrument plugins. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Hi Per > > don't know if this has come up in the 432Hz thread. > But if you want to explore microtonal music (and experimental scales beyond) - the must-use tool is (or at least 8 years ago it was) SCALA: > http://www.huygens-fokker.org/scala/ > > Take a look at it. It has some amazing features. Again, it has been many years I've looked into that subject... > > best regards > Buzap > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 9 23:36:34 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 424F7183473; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 23:36:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; bh=JkyRB/yJmZEguTzJzOyo7d6tGxEiGSK8CF0yFOEqzhk=; b=tjbqE122LtyeOlE0ImWuXWYG1rcdrvF/2xKWqUjoMXi7/J6esCAtUoU8dvyFwJyPxd h6y7wmpI+RcXKUStWp3ULBYW+C1RQludrWCTZaSmofen+6yJ9Kr1/ONl7Dexp6IOKH0i PoTGJmHSDD5CplocnYK1jvPktHzK4n8mECXozoJvj7t8fBzwkaiv7MEDtTYCD4dl7lxw +FmewycZxgB652G5w9hKIrqU6TkKD/UnsBbwY6Njl5ise6RsbYQ23k5kG2Iu4ZNJ8tKf Rc04QGiH49ci0Ux7X7y7BzPdZBY7p4mDVKARrkqBFu9X+z4u+FE9M6ybEV+acEpqi6Yv KA/g== Message-ID: <509D937C.5090900@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 00:36:28 +0100 From: Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010509050605030706030203" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119113 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 23:36:30 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010509050605030706030203 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This reminds me of that scene in Eco's "Focault's Pendulum" where one of the protagonists goes on to show how the dimensional relationships of a lottery sales booths perfectly relate to physical constants, the measurements of the pyramids and whatnot. It might make sense to stick with some facts for a change: * tunings were lower in the past (e.g. the old Paris norm of 409 Hz) * the 432Hz for concert a comes from the idea to have a c at 1 Hz, which results in a c 8 octaves above at 256 Hz, which results in a at 432Hz. In other words, it's the result of c frequencies being powers of 2 - which is not at all something worthwile, considering that "c" and "second" are merely invented things, not given by nature. * "the Germans", which were so nicely depicted in that article, typically tune to 442Hz (as do the Austrians). * many singers liked the 432Hz better, because they're lazy asses. Great composers preferred the higher tunings (e.g. Mahler, Wagner, with different relationships to the proverbial "Germans") because they sound nicer and offer better clarity. The former has mainly to do with the physical properties of string instruments. * that lower tunings offer better clarity is, of course, crap. The opposite is true, which you can find out using a simple test: play a low note, then detune in a blind test by a certain amount (e.g. 1 cent) and see if you can hear that. Then repeat with a considerably higher note. Just my two cents in a non-Euro currency ;) Am 06.11.2012 05:55, schrieb Jack Cattedra: > Stumbled upon this topic recently and I find it very interesting. From > my personal experience and experimentation, I've found that I > naturally tune my instruments to this frequency or a harmonic of it. > Not to mention, songwriting just seems to flow so much easier this > way, who knows. I don't like to intellectualize these types of things > too much, but I figured I'd share these links anyway. :) --------------010509050605030706030203 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
This reminds me of that scene in Eco's "Focault's Pendulum" where one of the protagonists goes on to show how the dimensional relationships of a lottery sales booths perfectly relate to physical constants, the measurements of the pyramids and whatnot.

It might make sense to stick with some facts for a change:
  * tunings were lower in the past (e.g. the old Paris norm of 409 Hz)
  * the 432Hz for concert a comes from the idea to have a c at 1 Hz, which results in a c 8 octaves above at 256 Hz, which results in a at 432Hz. In other words, it's the result of c frequencies being powers of 2 - which is not at all something worthwile, considering that "c" and "second" are merely invented things, not given by nature.
   * "the Germans", which were so nicely depicted in that article, typically tune to 442Hz (as do the Austrians).
   * many singers liked the 432Hz better, because they're lazy asses. Great composers preferred the higher tunings (e.g. Mahler, Wagner, with different relationships to the proverbial "Germans") because they sound nicer and offer better clarity. The former has mainly to do with the physical properties of string instruments.
   * that lower tunings offer better clarity is, of course, crap. The opposite is true, which you can find out using a simple test: play a low note, then detune in a blind test by a certain amount (e.g. 1 cent) and see if you can hear that. Then repeat with a considerably higher note.


Just my two cents in a non-Euro currency ;)

Am 06.11.2012 05:55, schrieb Jack Cattedra:
Stumbled upon this topic recently and I find it very interesting. From my personal experience and experimentation, I've found that I naturally tune my instruments to this frequency or a harmonic of it. Not to mention, songwriting just seems to flow so much easier this way, who knows. I don't like to intellectualize these types of things too much, but I figured I'd share these links anyway. :)

--------------010509050605030706030203-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 9 23:55:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02DD6183475; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 23:55:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 5248 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 09 Nov 2012 23:55:21 UTC Message-Id: <4AB2D425-FC8D-4E4C-A883-011A0CC842D0@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Looperlative LP2 feedback control pedal? Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 14:27:38 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119114 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 23:55:21 +0000 (UTC) EV-5 should work fine and its working fine for me Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 10 00:43:01 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00A38183476; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 00:43:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=XsaMaTTb6BaFl0AZuUT2BNVCj9gj/aqAJu434Iy3Z48=; b=uHv98/rMXn90aQq4n1cNW22wxpCVZxEYloBTxQhsGDPAcyPD3KKelfvHDPvbyPRjbb ypQfCCCqJGmBwHKDmVsKnnRJr+LWrrXme3OIoM/DLTTx12U9LByNFJYtVzVi9/Vm+fqW phNA8PGfIuUKN+dYcPiyLz0L1dhWol/YVgBkoPGhTcXKjcOYtfErn161kZYUHfdjE7fn SewDSW7nfmPr2uuurI/5G5cvJaoYC1lYDD84zjKOERZyhwclyxtL5lSPOW/xpDTGzZRu 6Z8B+eS9TAZ0CtPdffd5D28dVwKR+U90kokgbP7ZtPd8nKvDtdBqKcSLbB6BvxraSsyZ l1xw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 19:42:59 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: "Microlooper" (a Max 4 Live device) From: Sylvain Poitras To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3434969ca30f04ce1959b0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119115 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 00:43:00 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b3434969ca30f04ce1959b0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Per, Here are some screenshots of my control group and the parameter linking in bidule: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjCM5Vhb (I can email you the patch, if that's easier). Like you, I used an offset and that's how I move the window over the sample. This could be redone with only two controls, since there's no need to specify both the start and the end point when using the offset... endpoint alone should give us what we want... so two expression pedals to conquer the world! One more reason to add a couple instances of this great plugin to my patch! Sylvain --047d7b3434969ca30f04ce1959b0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Per,=A0
Here are some screenshots of my control group and the parameter= linking in bidule:=A0http://flic.k= r/s/aHsjCM5Vhb
(I can email you the patch, if that's easi= er).

Like you, I used an offset and that's how I move th= e window over the sample. =A0This could be redone with only two controls, s= ince there's no need to specify both the start and the end point when u= sing the offset... endpoint alone should give us what we want... =A0so two = expression pedals to conquer the world!

One more reason to add a couple instances of this great= plugin to my patch!

Sylvain
--047d7b3434969ca30f04ce1959b0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 10 01:34:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69C73183479; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 01:34:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gfoI1XaBk/so7Pza52vA92R7k0zM84AkVdOJe8OVac8=; b=uIsp6AU5nhAHj+s4YWhy1DY2u3hzOI53eRrYMTuQUiJsVjd36ip3wD9fKMW4oARlm0 oheC5w2cphmqOQtYCSp65wcMyl2i1EL4bu/IPlnV6KXYvfS2/uMOtNThlscnryKF30dk VcMnPbhkcs+x2AmZU0uX4eV1gEwHJUe1nNw8o1690+xKmKG/Z+Y+rAhwC3nq6Z16XKJB 7yvBE9HDv0MJM3d4WMI/dKs9C0zSXZl0ZF5so9L9BSwG+gGjSdXoqD4kBEacZ8URUxxs wymuIR0pO2fJ0ceRBzyRydSPoObtuNvHw5Xhl8YKpc1bLOt3Sxiz41R0SVm9JkPxKPQT HQ1w== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 16:34:55 -0900 Message-ID: Subject: Re: "Microlooper" (a Max 4 Live device) From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119116 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 01:34:56 +0000 (UTC) Sylvain =97 would you mind sending me that group/patch? I've been following this and have just started working with CrossFade Synth, too =85 that would be very handy to have that controller =85 Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > Per, > Here are some screenshots of my control group and the parameter linking i= n > bidule: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjCM5Vhb > (I can email you the patch, if that's easier). > > Like you, I used an offset and that's how I move the window over the samp= le. > This could be redone with only two controls, since there's no need to > specify both the start and the end point when using the offset... endpoin= t > alone should give us what we want... so two expression pedals to conquer > the world! > > One more reason to add a couple instances of this great plugin to my patc= h! > > Sylvain From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 10 04:34:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F4BE18347D; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 04:34:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=user-agent:date:subject:from:to:message-id:thread-topic :thread-index:mime-version:content-type; bh=BmxOE/y5Y4P1iyJ+hRqtouXMF2ybnr92Q0RJvv8aIRw=; b=TtS41hE4bRbXOURCnPGD6RdGasvfZIo0mL8/aH9LVJlxV0Ew6RUcCIdr4Mp9l+ccO7 RTOmNGAtgXDnWuuRlSSteaJOCcC4F7+jDKNjje4K6QZclepeAiik4g2FEFIwhRBQR56e BKLs6n4VjUUfJ94FnyB0W6L8PyVjv8WM0D3pV8NFhHFeeFFRCOH4b8O5fM/Wn6ORYO0C oQTg/ahWvgCzyR9UwcPF35PGBQ+pAi1mDVpYDxt+iQYFMy0rE4nfjMZxt8ieuiHdLn7o 82zOCBETuG7xULTICBjI1LDdWCjFyKCFGVAgasoPSv17BtdbN/IkD6NApcs1/SZLFRlE 51lQ== User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.32.0.111121 Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2012 23:34:43 -0400 Subject: EthnoLoops on BIRN ALIVE radio show tomorrow From: Alisa Apreleva To: LD Message-ID: Thread-Topic: EthnoLoops on BIRN ALIVE radio show tomorrow Thread-Index: Ac2+/LRTuCtNL988Y0eNu+sdEeGnMQ== Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3435348888_30781004" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119117 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 04:34:50 +0000 (UTC) > This message is in MIME format. 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http://apreleva.com --B_3435348888_30781004-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 10 04:56:19 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 808BB183477; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 04:56:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=jwuwYw0yQoyxPWhIe+Lcnvv+hNeToiAwUrh+Z9VVWzU=; b=1ExQRQ/EqMrFeOEStxYPkk4qicLvWOsWnz2uETeO8q/UGEZ7340QFdHoWyt+5C4xU7 OyJwWihPGPu+O9rLWDhziBcWx1eJk+8Em+sYM122oy62199KdrsrZbMLNm+ber7u0M2z pf4JWb8gRCRzpTbYgIhh94KNGY7C3fbqlcyRWSbYRWvGmqLPsgp37pFvN9a1gS63/Adu hEORryGF1k0P03zr2mAc8aBksmZdrsphueTtlHRbKTpNkXJup7WNEJlGK4YYrXfRRiSH WlzMS+5+Cxr5eSNsONqiBnohfUZNrUT81kTcYWRtNVcI9/V6q9qBUs7Qm9i2P26SlcLF Svaw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4AB2D425-FC8D-4E4C-A883-011A0CC842D0@baymoon.com> References: <4AB2D425-FC8D-4E4C-A883-011A0CC842D0@baymoon.com> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 20:56:18 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looperlative LP2 feedback control pedal? From: Ben Edwards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b603e9683ad2804ce1ce325 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119118 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 04:56:19 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b603e9683ad2804ce1ce325 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ok thanks, I guess I'm not sure what to listen for then. is it a slow fade of the loop layers? I thought it was a fade between the loop volume and the clean volume of the input. On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 2:27 PM, William Walker wrote: > EV-5 should work fine and its working fine for me > Bill > > --047d7b603e9683ad2804ce1ce325 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ok thanks, I guess I'm not sure what to listen for then.=A0 is it a slo= w fade of the loop layers?=A0 I thought it was a fade between the loop volu= me and the clean volume of the input.=A0

On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 2:27 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.c= om> wrote:
EV-5 should work fine and its working fine f= or me
=A0Bill


--047d7b603e9683ad2804ce1ce325-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 10 04:59:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B81ED18347B; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 04:59:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_9fa6930b-983f-4192-be53-54c26c88370d_" X-Originating-IP: [184.145.20.52] From: Jack Cattedra To: Subject: RE: Researching micro tunings "hands-on" (SCALA) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 04:59:46 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20121109201519.119160@gmx.net> References: ,<20121109201519.119160@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2012 04:59:46.0247 (UTC) FILETIME=[34547D70:01CDBF00] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119119 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 04:59:47 +0000 (UTC) --_9fa6930b-983f-4192-be53-54c26c88370d_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wow=2C awesome find brother! Thank you. > Date: Fri=2C 9 Nov 2012 21:15:19 +0100 > From: buzap@gmx.net > Subject: Re: Researching micro tunings "hands-on" (SCALA) > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Hi Per >=20 > don't know if this has come up in the 432Hz thread. > But if you want to explore microtonal music (and experimental scales beyo= nd) - the must-use tool is (or at least 8 years ago it was) SCALA: > http://www.huygens-fokker.org/scala/ >=20 > Take a look at it. It has some amazing features. Again=2C it has been man= y years I've looked into that subject... >=20 > best regards > Buzap >=20 = --_9fa6930b-983f-4192-be53-54c26c88370d_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Wow=2C awesome find brother! Thank you.

>=3B Date: Fri=2C 9 Nov 2012 21:15:19 +0100
>=3B From= : buzap@gmx.net
>=3B Subject: Re: Researching micro tunings "hands-on"= (SCALA)
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
&g= t=3B Hi Per
>=3B
>=3B don't know if this has come up in the 432H= z thread.
>=3B But if you want to explore microtonal music (and experi= mental scales beyond) - the must-use tool is (or at least 8 years ago it wa= s) SCALA:
>=3B http://www.huygens-fokker.org/scala/
>=3B
>= =3B Take a look at it. It has some amazing features. Again=2C it has been m= any years I've looked into that subject...
>=3B
>=3B best regard= s
>=3B Buzap
>=3B
= --_9fa6930b-983f-4192-be53-54c26c88370d_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 10 05:04:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AE3718347D; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 05:04:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=/n9Uu0l1/fmEIDprUdmgWKGjCF+E26dgTG+aYLLY340=; b=vbh/7jIKLYrn4+e0/97LIEiGGbFEm4a6LvTNcIdyzjznmeFHf7Q8g0TxbN9sVJVd+s HDKCq8+5KWyOSKhRxQaANcvWjqtUzrZMohDZ59lW09F7rTFwQtAzp84c8fWDwZvYR+bg U7I77FI9N0dCk+toBVm3xvI9zU0Fz9/sSbSIJmWtH2CYMszGShPm93BSXiW20P4RrL7Q DFOzLV7PJepUGM37w+uTH8UwNfoPJ0w3CB3dUx+EQmdoRHvnJf6MFllOzOj7xSIdNyl6 DGEd96VKL4VHF9djaf1iKEU9D7emxSzJZ9YBNTovTJwzetURKjzS2iPU3apreXnPS288 AjmA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <509D937C.5090900@googlemail.com> References: <509D937C.5090900@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 21:04:12 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? From: Ben Edwards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6244b8cd161404ce1cff99 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119120 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 05:04:14 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b6244b8cd161404ce1cff99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 But if instruments were resonant with 432 wouldn't the harmonics "sound nicer" and vice versa? Therefor any culture that creates a resonance theory based on math and physics would have a reason to believe that music would follow the same rules as a consistency of harmonic relationships or sacred geometry. I think the real issue here is a monopoly of 440Hz=A on recorded music not necessarily sacred, improvised, world, electronic, composed, ... , music in a quantum historical context. That can be argued aesthetically and geometrically philosophic in any parallel Shrodinger's Cat dimension that seems to fit with internal logic and experimentation. Just my thought for the moment as this has been an interesting study for me in the last couple years. Keep the debate going as it is interesting from both sides. On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill < moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote: > This reminds me of that scene in Eco's "Focault's Pendulum" where one of > the protagonists goes on to show how the dimensional relationships of a > lottery sales booths perfectly relate to physical constants, the > measurements of the pyramids and whatnot. > > It might make sense to stick with some facts for a change: > * tunings were lower in the past (e.g. the old Paris norm of 409 Hz) > * the 432Hz for concert a comes from the idea to have a c at 1 Hz, which > results in a c 8 octaves above at 256 Hz, which results in a at 432Hz. In > other words, it's the result of c frequencies being powers of 2 - which is > not at all something worthwile, considering that "c" and "second" are > merely invented things, not given by nature. > * "the Germans", which were so nicely depicted in that article, > typically tune to 442Hz (as do the Austrians). > * many singers liked the 432Hz better, because they're lazy asses. > Great composers preferred the higher tunings (e.g. Mahler, Wagner, with > different relationships to the proverbial "Germans") because they sound > nicer and offer better clarity. The former has mainly to do with the > physical properties of string instruments. > * that lower tunings offer better clarity is, of course, crap. The > opposite is true, which you can find out using a simple test: play a low > note, then detune in a blind test by a certain amount (e.g. 1 cent) and see > if you can hear that. Then repeat with a considerably higher note. > > > Just my two cents in a non-Euro currency ;) > > Am 06.11.2012 05:55, schrieb Jack Cattedra: > > Stumbled upon this topic recently and I find it very interesting. From > my personal experience and experimentation, I've found that I naturally > tune my instruments to this frequency or a harmonic of it. Not to mention, > songwriting just seems to flow so much easier this way, who knows. I don't > like to intellectualize these types of things too much, but I figured I'd > share these links anyway. :) > > > --047d7b6244b8cd161404ce1cff99 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable But if instruments were resonant with 432 wouldn't the harmonics "= sound nicer" and vice versa?=A0 Therefor any culture that creates a re= sonance theory based on math and physics would have a reason to believe tha= t music would follow the same rules as a consistency of harmonic relationsh= ips or sacred geometry.=A0 I think the real issue here is a monopoly of 440= Hz=3DA on recorded music not necessarily sacred, improvised, world, electro= nic, composed, ... , music in a quantum historical context.=A0 That can be = argued aesthetically and geometrically philosophic in any parallel Shroding= er's Cat dimension that seems to fit with internal logic and experiment= ation.=A0 Just my thought for the moment as this has been an interesting st= udy for me in the last couple years.=A0 Keep the debate going as it is inte= resting from both sides. =A0

On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Rainer Thelo= nius Balthasar Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com> = wrote:
=20 =20 =20
This reminds me of that scene in Eco's "Focault's Pendulum" where one of the protagonists goes= on to show how the dimensional relationships of a lottery sales booths perfectly relate to physical constants, the measurements of the pyramids and whatnot.

It might make sense to stick with some facts for a change:
=A0 * tunings were lower in the past (e.g. the old Paris norm of 409 Hz)
=A0 * the 432Hz for concert a comes from the idea to have a c at 1 Hz, which results in a c 8 octaves above at 256 Hz, which results in a at 432Hz. In other words, it's the result of c frequencies being powers of 2 - which is not at all something worthwile, considering that "c" and "second" are merely inve= nted things, not given by nature.
=A0=A0 * "the Germans", which were so nicely depicted in th= at article, typically tune to 442Hz (as do the Austrians).
=A0=A0 * many singers liked the 432Hz better, because they're laz= y asses. Great composers preferred the higher tunings (e.g. Mahler, Wagner, with different relationships to the proverbial "Germans&= quot;) because they sound nicer and offer better clarity. The former has mainly to do with the physical properties of string instruments.
=A0=A0 * that lower tunings offer better clarity is, of course, crap. The opposite is true, which you can find out using a simple test: play a low note, then detune in a blind test by a certain amount (e.g. 1 cent) and see if you can hear that. Then repeat with a considerably higher note.


Just my two cents in a non-Euro currency ;)

Am 06.11.2012 05:55, schrieb Jack Cattedra:
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Stumbled upon this topic recently and I find it very interesting. From my personal experience and experimentation, I've found that I naturally tune my instruments to this frequency or a harmonic of it. Not to mention, songwriting just seems to flow so much easier this way, who knows. I don't like to intellectualize these types o= f things too much, but I figured I'd share these links anyway. :)


--047d7b6244b8cd161404ce1cff99-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 10 05:06:34 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AAF6318347D; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 05:06:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=JNwrC8JxpM6BwXnqKcyu6jHF0Vb4z23OGeNyFRWihmQ=; b=m2fy3FsozCSslD+98PFXv4kRV8gZvU+GjRhJW0ZiNmM4fKcRMVVJf6nXsYOH1Bxa7s IlmcKa7DKYxw4eDUzd8oixCJlCZ6TeLpeStqW4+U5aKz/vFF9id6rRbnE0ckKhxdNV7h Cjl5NjFzGncx8WSxhhUBj+k5TjlneqrB1V74aCYhi8FnVzrAVCmFbz4xAKbTWT+m3wfj D797uuICctjqusJ0yMwURuVvDiVBdH/gt4PBGwTbR8ohiEiWXMLL4tTQWam1m/jvsOVa 4A2l/dn69tcGg5slaBNBpXsVLErStVBchlR8ywXhsRUIYUhsNcOcIpqWlZnfPWXCY2KA dvGg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20121109201519.119160@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 21:06:32 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Researching micro tunings "hands-on" (SCALA) From: Ben Edwards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b621c5822edd804ce1d08e3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119121 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 05:06:33 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b621c5822edd804ce1d08e3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yeah the SCALA files will be as important as MIDI someday. People laughed at MIDI in the 90s and now it is the dominant language of music theory/technology. On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Jack Cattedra < the_beat_conductor@hotmail.com> wrote: > Wow, awesome find brother! Thank you. > > > Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 21:15:19 +0100 > > From: buzap@gmx.net > > Subject: Re: Researching micro tunings "hands-on" (SCALA) > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > > Hi Per > > > > don't know if this has come up in the 432Hz thread. > > But if you want to explore microtonal music (and experimental scales > beyond) - the must-use tool is (or at least 8 years ago it was) SCALA: > > http://www.huygens-fokker.org/scala/ > > > > Take a look at it. It has some amazing features. Again, it has been many > years I've looked into that subject... > > > > best regards > > Buzap > > > --047d7b621c5822edd804ce1d08e3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah the SCALA files will be as important as MIDI someday.=A0 People laughe= d at MIDI in the 90s and now it is the dominant language of music theory/te= chnology.

On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 8:59 PM,= Jack Cattedra <the_beat_conductor@hotmail.com>= wrote:
Wow, awesome find brother! Thank you.

> Date: Fri= , 9 Nov 2012 21:15:19 +0100
> From: buzap@gmx.net
> Subject: Re: Researching micro = tunings "hands-on" (SCALA)
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
> Hi Per
&= gt;
> don't know if this has come up in the 432Hz thread.
>= ; But if you want to explore microtonal music (and experimental scales beyo= nd) - the must-use tool is (or at least 8 years ago it was) SCALA:
> htt= p://www.huygens-fokker.org/scala/
>
> Take a look at it. I= t has some amazing features. Again, it has been many years I've looked = into that subject...
>
> best regards
> Buzap
>

--047d7b621c5822edd804ce1d08e3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 10 08:01:19 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7498183473; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:01:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 828995938/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.30.129/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.30.129 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApIBACwJnlBYbR6B/2dsb2JhbAANN8Z5AQEBAwE4QAYLCxgJFg8JAwIBAgFFHAGIAKovkzePN4MnA5tTjVo X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,751,1344207600"; d="scan'208";a="828995938" Message-ID: <509E09CD.3080406@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:01:17 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? References: <509D937C.5090900@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119122 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:01:18 +0000 (UTC) Ben Edwards wrote: > But if instruments were resonant with 432 wouldn't the harmonics "sound > nicer" and vice versa? Which is to say that every instrument has it's sweet spot tuning wise. Probably worth considering that the resonant peaks in a good instrument are relatively broad. > I think the real issue here is a > monopoly of 440Hz=A on recorded music not necessarily sacred, > improvised, world, electronic, composed, ... , music in a quantum > historical context. there's a lot of non 440 about, often unnoticed. >That can be argued aesthetically and geometrically > philosophic in any parallel Shrodinger's Cat dimension well, no-ones going to argue with that ; -) I agree with Per that relative pitch (temperament) is more significant than absolute pitch. The text books are full of how equal temperament is dominant, when the reality is that it's only keyboards (and some guitars ) are generally now tuned in 12ET. Exceptions: string quartet; choral music; orchestra; anything outside Europe...etc. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 10 08:11:31 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E56E183475; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:11:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 816103133/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.30.129/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.30.129 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApIBADgLnlBYbR6B/2dsb2JhbAANN8Z5AQEBBDhAEQsYCRYPCQMCAQIBRRwBsiyTNo83gycDm1ONWg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,751,1344207600"; d="scan'208";a="816103133" Message-ID: <509E0C33.1010506@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:11:31 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looperlative LP2 feedback control pedal? References: <4AB2D425-FC8D-4E4C-A883-011A0CC842D0@baymoon.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9C8aE.A.lcD.zwgnQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119123 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:11:31 +0000 (UTC) Ben Edwards wrote: > ok thanks, I guess I'm not sure what to listen for then. is it a slow > fade of the loop layers? I thought it was a fade between the loop > volume and the clean volume of the input. hi Ben, it controls the 'feedback', the volume at which the output of the loop is fed back to the input. You won't hear any difference till the loop repeats. Carefully set the pedal for a gentle fade by just lifting the toe end a bit. Dip pedal as you add new notes to the loop (just try it, especially on a loop of about 2s). Move pedal rapidly up and down to create a tremolo'ed loop. ...and so on...I'm sure you got it by now. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 10 08:18:26 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A49D183475; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:18:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=cNqJkmTvbZFDay3QDKHhbOmJHH4NCKFIANJbpSl1BU4=; b=HxZzUl+2n6KaPNLJDEqKzUjEFGWjf6rLT4jvIyADG1m/7z0aqpmdgtSJpFgRtl72Dt lTnsxEJzvUDXANFrbhY0PIBQTtUgiRFauQYX7mH53VTm4Zzul2qXg4LxiebhoCISdWgX kEXFwgX08EgdwJayWcVrS06lDJHbIvd9kTemhCgZOvIifKItVVhHUTTGWzbHFCy8Xt6F kneb8ryV6RA7yMyydiDI6Hperrfo7hSwyX/kPxyLy8BHuvbOZjK2IPKUg99rV0fD+u62 kbsG0I4kQgApWawUcT/Jllm17jr/O/RlmWPD05BB+QANWQhty76sjlnTo5Xkz5sL+8yJ 2Efg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 00:18:24 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Couple of Late Night Looping experiments From: Todd Elliott To: "loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b343884524caf04ce1fb62a Resent-Message-ID: <_NFKr.A.TkD.R3gnQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119124 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:18:26 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b343884524caf04ce1fb62a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 One on video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJWwikyAMBs&feature=youtu.be And one in audio: http://soundcloud.com/toaster-1/look-at-it And yep, there are similar themes a-going; but I ultimately liked the results in both cases, and they are different enough to preserve, in some form. 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--047d7b343884524caf04ce1fb62a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 10 08:38:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C182E183473; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:38:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:subject:from:to:cc:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer; bh=xCGkYdZkjYObg/r99dbGzEYBLP4KnochirfAevXzuOE=; b=cnMXt1d8zGWHoq9v/XXa82Xs829Y92lsunIASHEEe2k5wc8C/kNTp1WQZI3f8x8lXE oII1OZUWcExVGU9TmZcnr4tXZbaHrQ86TEVfUMHdD8QZm+7iqqk+iFPaiLqY1eGZAcsk 8612DRJ5fs/22CdJBqRgUGV9pUBYaJ8I0IWR1NhQfBtYL3x6kXlq8MAwQ4duBxiLR/w0 /UliXvHbvG+IDe0vXwnBJd8J4Q4YiG4ZVVbIIIOFJtCMpChZ3zeeMFQc3MGi04bMXdrL GXpuPK8HieHGv0NqE0n/Bsfgg0HFg0sj8ht0wlmqyUrsTsT4vE986guP+1kDCTtSNfem jhFA== Message-ID: <509e1270.2ad3440a.3751.360b@mx.google.com> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 00:38:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Looperlative LP2 feedback control pedal? From: "astralmnemonics@gmail.com" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com CC: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Seven Enterprise Gateway (v 2.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119125 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:38:10 +0000 (UTC) Cool thanks, I think I'll go to Guitar Center and try some different pedals out. Are there any that work the best or are they all similar? -----Original Message----- Date: Saturday, November 10, 2012 12:11:33 am To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "andy butler" Subject: Re: Looperlative LP2 feedback control pedal? Ben Edwards wrote: > ok thanks, I guess I'm not sure what to listen for then. is it a slow > fade of the loop layers? I thought it was a fade between the loop > volume and the clean volume of the input. hi Ben, it controls the 'feedback', the volume at which the output of the loop is fed back to the input. You won't hear any difference till the loop repeats. Carefully set the pedal for a gentle fade by just lifting the toe end a bit. Dip pedal as you add new notes to the loop (just try it, especially on a loop of about 2s). Move pedal rapidly up and down to create a tremolo'ed loop. ...and so on...I'm sure you got it by now. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 10 10:32:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02DDE183474; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 10:32:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BmoxSdpd0cFr790wd9O7GCyb7ysAV1LZlQ+kt3MiWr0=; b=kj3u4p0eLrdnt3zP5qnq2YsKnuY58Rj/1oGXX0N+LulI/TbgQTTMoJGYjHMg5qOpO2 ziyAfG9ue+PDmjrm/ly0Rbg8RWVGxMlx5Swm9wNglFAJDPr3CfWPPCyfTpKCBbpH8NCb 9yRKASA7ubdEqG4bOvyCv8+P76N7oCIUoFDKCRdflIul3w1j00CkiCwkX7kfI0jbaRkH Ut+T2uCikuOGM8zH86fzJylNK/twMc+53cboQ/Z/jnVtv9v62rzuPgIXgEYmCDaLcPrX RBSeJ/Gn0ye6V8QMrb6up4Rpx08pGe/zz0NPdBV/P48x/TIAf7f4yRXamZABGo+HMlTT GGbg== Message-ID: <509E2D51.4070906@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 11:32:49 +0100 From: Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? References: <509D937C.5090900@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119126 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 10:32:49 +0000 (UTC) Am 10.11.2012 06:04, schrieb Ben Edwards: > But if instruments were resonant with 432 wouldn't the harmonics > "sound nicer" and vice versa? Therefor any culture that It depends a lot on what you define as "nice". Instrument makers typically tell you that you should tune above the resonances for a nicer sound - go figure *. Furthermore, the resonances are where the instrument maker makes them to be - so again, no nature-given law, but human design. Rainer *: the reason for that in system design is that you can tune (sic!) the system behaviour in a more stable fashion. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 10 10:59:04 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C67C2183477; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 10:59:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 819444136/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.30.129/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.30.129 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApYBAK8ynlBYbR6B/2dsb2JhbAANNo4yuEkBAQEDAThABgsLIRYPCQMCAQIBRRwBiACqDpMqjziDJwObU41a X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,752,1344207600"; d="scan'208";a="819444136" Message-ID: <509E3378.8070003@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 10:59:04 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? References: <509D937C.5090900@googlemail.com> <509E2D51.4070906@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <509E2D51.4070906@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119127 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 10:59:04 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > Instrument makers > typically tell you that you should tune above the resonances for a nicer > sound - go figure *. ....which instrument? andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 10 12:03:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39A2B183464; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 12:03:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=PbJsPXXX6MuOvCLENVcI4J7T46TtFjLmFUIpR77f7yI=; b=iLh719tJ8Pic+QG+UXlReM2PtysHZgRx8NEbwzvV4cgY0uKXVCdlQ1m7iuIZZhITud xW6LCAQEjX3Yb9mjR88Iczxhq3qy1z8CT03k+W99G0zdYA5YycOju1nay0XA5txLco5t hnxvfinE7021vUMKa8rmzb55KikWPZsPi6MzqjXeiadrUg8TldoUyQDuNOqup8DL0UC7 DXT/cyiKA8m3R+a3jYClB7SVkWfl/gLUrLWZQeuC4ARyzAqjt7RhIJdYuwFKXtMa3OCJ jGuHh+q1KM5LFFZWE2T1aNC2GxQ3kWBkDpGE8LCwPk9Hz2Hy4RC86HI5tPQ5jO2zEarB WbRw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <509E09CD.3080406@tiscali.co.uk> References: <509D937C.5090900@googlemail.com> <509E09CD.3080406@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 13:03:51 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <-ChW4D.A.JLF.oKknQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119128 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 12:03:53 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 9:01 AM, andy butler wrote: > there's a lot of non 440 about, often unnoticed. Often to be found in recordings that was produced with classic 24-track tape machine technique. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 10 12:19:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4620183460; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 12:19:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=M6kDyj/vSgc5WX3hfoLNCAjiZ6GZr5a+nvcuxfzw6kI=; b=KE1VeN5NP6ri7rLrWzxqaZgH/0s1aOWT9LszVhTt1wT5RIrwQmu0WAexOHaSg2TJeR 3AfbgjmTUqZtdm94XsuIt45qE5QdZXYcGyqp/Z/KGkUaHHmIrDL5cSZZjoplxnTrK4zZ xkB7oShEQhFjwcqlTcgN9VL8NNQHmvP/KZseQYMX9dQ8ktUXUU+JngAK/SXN4kSUEwXE zgoD1mHWz4UpWrePJWvGmrCWSqu2WLDM2sEQ1LHePZGfYMT3vxVwrh0EEqticyzMLGLA D/JgtQygVivLSEiYGn31G5zX7B8Hi+/tIdX2JAXmgvcQvt3xZaUFv3IE3xOO2dWQc5tW T6Hw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 13:19:21 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: "Microlooper" (a Max 4 Live device) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119129 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 12:19:22 +0000 (UTC) Thank you, Sylvain. I saved those two screen shots as reminders for a rainy day when I will make such a group. Another area in live electronics where it comes in handy to sweep a definable range is when you have a delay and a feedback loop with a filter in the feedback loop. In case you can use a band pass filter there should already be usable parameters to target, but on some platforms you only hav low pass and band pass filters around. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 1:42 AM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > Per, > Here are some screenshots of my control group and the parameter linking in > bidule: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjCM5Vhb > (I can email you the patch, if that's easier). > > Like you, I used an offset and that's how I move the window over the sample. > This could be redone with only two controls, since there's no need to > specify both the start and the end point when using the offset... endpoint > alone should give us what we want... so two expression pedals to conquer > the world! > > One more reason to add a couple instances of this great plugin to my patch! > > Sylvain From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 10 12:55:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5A5818345E; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 12:55:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_90bebb69-4e61-4e31-a7a2-9880ebb1ee18_" X-Originating-IP: [184.145.20.52] From: Jack Cattedra To: Subject: RE: Couple of Late Night Looping experiments Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 12:55:45 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2012 12:55:45.0689 (UTC) FILETIME=[B3158090:01CDBF42] Resent-Message-ID: <1AeqID.A.osF.S7knQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119130 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 12:55:46 +0000 (UTC) --_90bebb69-4e61-4e31-a7a2-9880ebb1ee18_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable awesome tracks - the vid is my fav. PEACE :) Date: Sat=2C 10 Nov 2012 00:18:24 -0800 Subject: Couple of Late Night Looping experiments From: toddbert@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com One on video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DsJWwikyAMBs&feature=3Dyoutu.be And one in audio: http://soundcloud.com/toaster-1/look-at-it And yep=2C there are similar themes a-going=3B but I ultimately liked the r= esults in both cases=2C and they are different enough to preserve=2C in som= e form. T --=20 http://toaster.bandcamp.com = --_90bebb69-4e61-4e31-a7a2-9880ebb1ee18_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
awesome tracks - the vid is my fav. PEACE :)

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Subject: Couple of Late Night Looping experiments
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= --_90bebb69-4e61-4e31-a7a2-9880ebb1ee18_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 10 14:49:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8EF1B18345E; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 14:49:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 825304293/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.30.129/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.30.129 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApIBADRpnlBYbR6B/2dsb2JhbAANNsZ8AQEBBDhAEQsYCRYPCQMCAQIBDzYZAwGHdAOpRolLDYlUiyyEDIMnA5Qmhy2FWogA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,753,1344207600"; d="scan'208";a="825304293" Message-ID: <509E6994.8040905@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 14:49:56 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looperlative LP2 feedback control pedal? References: <509e1270.2ad3440a.3751.360b@mx.google.com> In-Reply-To: <509e1270.2ad3440a.3751.360b@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119131 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 14:49:56 +0000 (UTC) astralmnemonics@gmail.com wrote: > Cool thanks, I think I'll go to Guitar Center and try some different pedals out. > Are there any that work the best or are they all similar? I'd expect the Roland EV-5 is the specified pedal for the LP2, not sure though. Bill or Rick will know of course. ..but I really suggest you try out a few till you get the one you like best. 1) because Roland stuff is pricey and doesn't guarantee better components 2) it really depends which response works for you 3) dunnow, maybe you care how it looks ;-) Some pedals (typically Yamaha/Zoomtype) may not work at all. There also two types of Volume/Swell pedal (high or low impedance) which *may* work if I'm wrong about the EV-5. Test it out by recording a short loop and see if you can easily set the pedal for a fade rate that you like. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 10 14:52:59 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF29B18345A; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 14:52:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 819487069/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.30.129/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.30.129 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMBAJlonlBYbR6B/2dsb2JhbAANNoYZwGMBAQEEIxVAEQsYAgIFFgsCAgkDAgECAUUZAwGxPXCSPIEiinODI4IUgRMDm1ONWg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,753,1344207600"; d="scan'208";a="819487069" Message-ID: <509E6A10.2050403@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 14:52:00 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? References: <509D937C.5090900@googlemail.com> <509E09CD.3080406@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119132 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 14:52:59 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 9:01 AM, andy butler wrote: >> there's a lot of non 440 about, often unnoticed. > > > Often to be found in recordings that was produced with classic > 24-track tape machine technique. also those with guitars, before the ubiquity of digital tuners (as a bass player in the 70's, this wasn't a secret) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 10 15:35:29 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D49418345E; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 15:35:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=TaGEjP2i/wOvfComSJ/pvLt3uo4T5zV5RUr+Jv991/A=; b=l1rS9QaGnF+aDPgnSlWRUumlPr5Aznuo4XJ/AUBFTDGZmplMwVj78s9O9KJn3JisvL uOAfAZlDvcv9J2+N/L+P7YuclFe+c2h8CpbTeei6eI2ymFKO+bYAdp7Fp9pEL7fsQcxA gCxGorSqS7lObahJE711sF4NvR2mnpMZDx8p6Icb7yNJa3d4J1+ehaN4X625TXCNZoy/ yVssQjTlEIc3U56UNbkVnZ+QUuUjl6wGRdK1bNQ+HXwCp6+YfbTEl0hD21TzrKXIPHKl xxXDNEjaso5Jc/lzU8t+JpsNN3K9bmCYZg5dZHv31E8PXt02zdZ/VwQFqLZQwpa+lGEs +spQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <509E6A10.2050403@tiscali.co.uk> References: <509D937C.5090900@googlemail.com> <509E09CD.3080406@tiscali.co.uk> <509E6A10.2050403@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:35:26 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119133 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 15:35:28 +0000 (UTC) >> On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 9:01 AM, andy butler >> wrote: >>> >>> there's a lot of non 440 about, often unnoticed. >> > Per Boysen wrote: >> >> Often to be found in recordings that was produced with classic >> 24-track tape machine technique. On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 3:52 PM, andy butler wrote: > > also those with guitars, before the ubiquity of digital tuners > > (as a bass player in the 70's, this wasn't a secret) > > andy ...and it isn't a secret either that the ever changing reference pitch of guitar tunings on AC/DC records can be traced back to the shape, tuning-wise, of the particular guitar carried by the particular guitarist who was the first to arrive at the studio that particular morning each particular track was recorded. Per ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 10 15:59:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B07BF18345E; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 15:59:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Looperlative LP2 feedback control pedal? Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 07:59:38 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119134 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 15:59:47 +0000 (UTC) No Ben it is variable feed back so depending on the pedal position its either a gradual fade or fast fade, heel down being the fastest fade time. Realize though that you can undo the fade as well and return to your last volume setting if desired. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 10 16:57:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B18318345E; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:57:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Loopers in the news Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:57:44 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119135 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:57:51 +0000 (UTC) The actual article has not been posted on line. What you saw online was a teaser and not the article. The music is available on CD baby or I-tunes. Field's and Fences Erdem Helvacioglu and Bill Walker. The last month has been nearly non- stop work for me so I haven't had a chance to take the article and scan it ( my own budget printer's scan function is pretty useless, so on my next free day off I'll take it and have it scanned properly). I'm not sure what GP's policy is about releasing and archiving print magazine articles so I will ask Barry Cleveland about that. I assume they want to delay posting on line to give the print copies a chance to sell. perhaps you have a friend living in a more metropolitan area of Brazil that could find a copy? I thought Guitar Player is available in many countries? The truth is my time is really consumed right now, working as many conventional gigs as I can book to make enough money to release my solo CD, and finally launch a website, which embarrassingly enough I have never established. So thanks for the suggestion, Matthias I'll add that to my list of promotional things to do. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 10 17:16:31 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1ECE18345C; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 17:16:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=PgRrGDP3+VU9rBAc1HESgbquWahym4Et0ba6QxS6/78=; b=ldhid67hJyEsXyRtqStaYVQ1xFg7wtR4fEsUGHmaF3l2hYMxONPF8639+mxbjmHlem rLsBoQqKgwWR5IJF6zZMmTkdCcpEoT5VrVjKDdq9QNunnbLYslz/1burlfUajDFLXJvW Z1eu5CXpdt4b6esuTtXAwpkmOb81u5JV1jIoNYYvXnbJrS8PeWMHx9XESZh7Hqdt3Hgj C2VzgrTGMb2b0op9EvqEqZhq+GIqYt0U9ILySyVbqYetbL0/GSVJT1Q7euraayOCdply 0pUVv8FF42N9fTPMtRAlTto71A4QIjPQvG3gGNhJqPtCBdGnKYIOgEOXF/KUYXJJ/dtR nrQA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 09:16:30 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looperlative LP2 feedback control pedal? From: Ben Edwards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b603d76af1f2b04ce273a87 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119136 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 17:16:31 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b603d76af1f2b04ce273a87 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Awesome thanks guys On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 7:59 AM, William Walker wrote: > No Ben it is variable feed back so depending on the pedal position its > either a gradual fade or fast fade, heel down being the fastest fade time. > Realize though that you can undo the fade as well and return to your last > volume setting if desired. > Bill > > --047d7b603d76af1f2b04ce273a87 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Awesome thanks guys

On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 = at 7:59 AM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wro= te:
No Ben it is variable feed back so depending= on the pedal position its either a gradual fade or fast fade, heel down be= ing the fastest fade time. Realize though that you can undo the fade as wel= l and return to your last volume setting if desired.
=A0Bill


--047d7b603d76af1f2b04ce273a87-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 10 17:20:39 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 087E918345C; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 17:20:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=fQi6sR65qt4NF6kcjwBtWGBSTI64I8lFVfdsGg7OIj0=; b=Usv2pVhrwnBm+reLgojpkJ13AKE+0eVoPUwP1htYR6hPHg6sTL5+dugT56SFzg8ptv KIdr5UFFM3d4WfX447K7WQgjOycqCC904Xdav3EOkTfyk5glXRqFK1JkTCbuhnFh8Lb/ DPigw3Eu/1LRu55Pa6af1mUxj0qV4soP565XdnJz/YF1TD2EUxNL7KcHYyBOQH76wDPd JeoP2z0vPI0JJuqTZiFX/3ighJxb+pxDEkapzOXMuACqjpxnxjrwH5FuvhT2oye5GBpf TCjZluc3AfFDj9dY03X6m9isp0EWAIIWUwg/zSGf2FfHHe0jE4/aTRHwzLBwcLhSUJgE IuKg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <509D937C.5090900@googlemail.com> <509E09CD.3080406@tiscali.co.uk> <509E6A10.2050403@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 09:20:37 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? From: Ben Edwards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b603d766fd71b04ce2749e9 Resent-Message-ID: <3AnR6B.A.Ub.mzonQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119137 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 17:20:38 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b603d766fd71b04ce2749e9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 haha always some chaos/improvisation to allow for probability in what "works" and "doesn't". My point about the monopoly of recorded music is more in reference to a standard and yes the invention of the digital tuner. Of course people showed up and played in whatever tuning they felt like especially drunk rock stars, I can imagine Mick Jagger telling the keyboard player to change to his pitch... On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 9:01 AM, andy butler > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> there's a lot of non 440 about, often unnoticed. > >> > > Per Boysen wrote: > >> > >> Often to be found in recordings that was produced with classic > >> 24-track tape machine technique. > > On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 3:52 PM, andy butler > wrote: > > > > also those with guitars, before the ubiquity of digital tuners > > > > (as a bass player in the 70's, this wasn't a secret) > > > > andy > > > ...and it isn't a secret either that the ever changing reference pitch > of guitar tunings on AC/DC records can be traced back to the shape, > tuning-wise, of the particular guitar carried by the particular > guitarist who was the first to arrive at the studio that particular > morning each particular track was recorded. > > Per ;-) > > --047d7b603d766fd71b04ce2749e9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable haha always some chaos/improvisation to allow for probability in what "= ;works" and "doesn't".=A0 My point about the monopoly of= recorded music is more in reference to a standard and yes the invention of= the digital tuner.=A0 Of course people showed up and played in whatever tu= ning they felt like especially drunk rock stars, I can imagine Mick Jagger = telling the keyboard player to change to his pitch...

On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Per Boysen = <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 9:01 AM, andy butler <= ;akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> >> wrote:
>>>
>>> there's a lot of non 440 about, often unnoticed.
>>
> Per Boysen wrote:
>>
>> Often to be found in recordings that was produced with classic
>> 24-track tape machine technique.

On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 3:52 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrot= e:
>
> also those with guitars, before the ubiquity of digital tuners
>
> (as a bass player in the 70's, this wasn't a secret)
>
> andy


...and it isn't a secret either that the ever changing reference = pitch
of guitar tunings on AC/DC records can be traced back to the shape,
tuning-wise, of the particular guitar carried by the particular
guitarist who was the first to arrive at the studio that particular
morning each particular track was recorded.

Per =A0;-)


--047d7b603d766fd71b04ce2749e9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 10 17:27:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B30B183460; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 17:27:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5AF93E1A-8EC1-48F3-937D-DCEA025694FD@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-599110272 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 09:27:44 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119138 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 17:27:52 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-599110272 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > "many singers liked the 432Hz better, because they're lazy asses." :-) Thanks for weighing in on this subject Rainer. I have experimented with many tunings and scale lengths in my playing history, its all good, it all works and its all music. I'm just thankful that I have a tuner that can handle all of these temperaments, in case I'm in a country where I have to use one :-) Bill PS I enjoy clarity of intonation so I will be right at home in Germany --Apple-Mail-3-599110272 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
"many singers liked the 432Hz better, because they're lazy asses."

:-)  Thanks for weighing in on this subject Rainer.  I have experimented with many tunings and scale lengths in my playing history, its all good, it all works and its all music.  I'm just thankful that 
I have a tuner that can handle all of these temperaments, in case I'm in a country where I have to  use one :-) 
 Bill
 PS I enjoy clarity of intonation so I will be right at home in Germany
--Apple-Mail-3-599110272-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 10 17:37:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE53E18345C; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 17:37:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_ac2eff81-b880-41f5-b632-0e45c4866718_" X-Originating-IP: [184.145.20.52] From: Jack Cattedra To: Subject: RE: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 17:37:04 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <5AF93E1A-8EC1-48F3-937D-DCEA025694FD@baymoon.com> References: <5AF93E1A-8EC1-48F3-937D-DCEA025694FD@baymoon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2012 17:37:04.0781 (UTC) FILETIME=[FFCE8BD0:01CDBF69] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119139 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 17:37:05 +0000 (UTC) --_ac2eff81-b880-41f5-b632-0e45c4866718_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To further expand on the 432 tuning=2C these are other frequencies & their = corresponding keys that you could mess with. Here's a picture diagram: http://ecoki.com/wp-content/uploads/7chakra.jpg Crown 216=2C432=2C or 864 A 3rd Eye 144=2C288=2C or 576 D Throat 192=2C384=2C or 768 G Heart 128=2C256=2C or 512 C Solar Plexus 182=2C364=2C or 728 F# Sacral 303=2C606=2C or 1212 E flat Root 228=2C456=2C or 912 B flat I've found it helpful to look at each of these frequencies like the resonan= t frequency of a guitar. When strummed=2C it vibrates the entire guitar and= it feels like it is becoming one with it. = --_ac2eff81-b880-41f5-b632-0e45c4866718_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
To further expand on the 432 tuning=2C these are other frequencies &=3B = their corresponding keys that you could mess with.

Here's a picture = diagram: http://ecoki.com/wp-content/uploads/7chakra.jpg

Crown 216= =2C432=2C or 864 A
3rd Eye 144=2C288=2C or 576 D
Throat 192=2C384= =2C or 768 G
Heart 128=2C256=2C or 512 C
Solar Plexus 182=2C364=2C= or 728 F#
Sacral 303=2C606=2C or 1212 E flat
Root 228=2C456=2C or= 912 B flat


I've found it helpful to look at each of these freq= uencies like the resonant frequency of a guitar. When strummed=2C it vibrat= es the entire guitar and it feels like it is becoming one with it.
=
= --_ac2eff81-b880-41f5-b632-0e45c4866718_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 10 17:56:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8EB218345D; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 17:56:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :x-gm-message-state; bh=hpXLkbPMKSP1GvhK7+i71sYOeA6Mi+Q59abg1D0tOKY=; b=WEXgWPI4ImMZCuLrmM7EaOvyJCw6L2Yd8HLMICJpCBc1tF1vyw+SCJYeqbKQFQoIgz zRT3ykWBFkEoDIw+oucwiOATG3yYwkvnft/yeOqvVczyvS36/iR+M1F6uDpitQ2GCrx7 Q3qL0dqeJ8BZbeTRt8Uet28E5rbwN4cq/3/5ee+9+2aPfGgHpldJaoLPuJ/XSOAxdanb d8UzVeR1Tg9tQDOum2oEtVLsT5Ey87zLXbnh15//8ozjYikKdSr/ixmNEy35I34yXUTq HDJwoFR57uMBxkC9/vvAKG19AV/6QBNrC2xAmBKhW3zacGxu7/t3bl1zpOQW6braAF+9 7stQ== Subject: Re: Loopers in the news References: From: richard sales Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10A403) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <4FD4B12C-7467-41A1-B58C-8E0170F3D0C7@glasswing.com> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 09:56:07 -0800 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl7WwQnNHcMbJDPNh2cnR1fFP/l6U5wX40l2tUTkrNcOGWJ+4Cd3Cc4K02LMCvyyLqxUf9d Resent-Message-ID: <9lm71D.A.rAB.8UpnQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119140 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 17:56:12 +0000 (UTC) Bill...=20 KICKSTARTER! I'd contribute Richard Sales Sent from my IPad www.glasswing.com On Nov 10, 2012, at 8:57 AM, William Walker wrote: > The actual article has not been posted on line. What you saw online was a t= easer and not the article. The music is available on CD baby or I-tunes. Fi= eld's and Fences Erdem Helvacioglu and Bill Walker. > The last month has been nearly non- stop work for me so I haven't had a ch= ance to take the article and scan it ( my own budget printer's scan function= is pretty useless, so on my next free day off I'll take it and have it scan= ned properly). I'm not sure what GP's policy is about releasing and archivin= g print magazine articles so I will ask Barry Cleveland about that. I assume= they want to delay posting on line to give the print copies a chance to sel= l. perhaps you have a friend living in a more metropolitan area of Brazil th= at could find a copy? I thought Guitar Player is available in many countries= ? The truth is my time is really consumed right now, working as many convent= ional gigs as I can book to make enough money to release my solo CD, and f= inally launch a website, which embarrassingly enough I have never establish= ed. So thanks for the suggestion, Matthias I'll add that to my list of pro= motional things to do. > Bill >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 10 18:21:59 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63F5918345D; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 18:21:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; bh=qJkNNGNUrv9r6dEqBl44Z02Qw63nzuwfBMotYki6Wm4=; b=H0BNvx+ehAvPoVXV7g46ZNP3dRMSGmKzfzbWU/sUI/geg951ZM+u5GMabkB7lyZwJt QFrHYLQrrYUr59W3KeYjjKPtowivXc7twQAXjblO/NAV0P6Ruwys6PI9dTsoPRojT7qk APwB7xRWIslGKfk2V/1hnM6e/lDFzdwPbGXF9b+khyd1vftXdc8IUScqRqRUwlYdGXvh g/5eQ42G77mq8LJyZTUPxiZWz2+qeH7eBah75w8Pa1PNlpygUWe7aDS6mzXtvhbsvfJB netajlmKRwet3ZRjwth368QYwvrd6BGTPF8ZZI9NIe3Oq0+wv0/okQEsPyDgj63wL0FG 7RTA== Message-Id: <43BD2BFE-A639-444C-8D3B-E1B3372179CE@gmail.com> From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-602360718 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Couple of Late Night Looping experiments Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 10:21:55 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119141 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 18:21:59 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-602360718 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Nov 10, 2012, at 12:18 AM, Todd Elliott wrote: > One on video: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJWwikyAMBs&feature=youtu.be What is that long bit of gear in the foreground? The biggest drum synth in the world? BobC --Apple-Mail-1-602360718 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Nov 10, 2012, = at 12:18 AM, Todd Elliott wrote:

One on = video:




What is that = long bit of gear in the foreground? The biggest drum synth in the = world?


BobC
= --Apple-Mail-1-602360718-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 10 18:40:31 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 602FF18345E; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 18:40:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 829107964/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.30.129/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.30.129 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApIBACifnlBYbR6B/2dsb2JhbAANN8Z8AQEBBDhAEQsYCRYPCQMCAQIBRRwBiBGpEpMOjziDJwOXF4Q8jVo X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,754,1344207600"; d="scan'208";a="829107964" Message-ID: <509E9FA0.8050208@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 18:40:32 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? References: <5AF93E1A-8EC1-48F3-937D-DCEA025694FD@baymoon.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119142 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 18:40:31 +0000 (UTC) would be more convincing if any 2 sources could ever agree on where these chakras are, and if those frequencies weren't in the "mystical aluminium chime bar" range, and the scale wasn't picked from easily available chime bar frequencies. hmmm...nice scale to mess with Or in other words...formulate your system...make some music. and it matters not at all that this info you provide isn't taken seriously. andy Jack Cattedra wrote: > To further expand on the 432 tuning, these are other frequencies & their > corresponding keys that you could mess with. > > Here's a picture diagram: http://ecoki.com/wp-content/uploads/7chakra.jpg > > Crown 216,432, or 864 A > 3rd Eye 144,288, or 576 D > Throat 192,384, or 768 G > Heart 128,256, or 512 C > Solar Plexus 182,364, or 728 F# > Sacral 303,606, or 1212 E flat > Root 228,456, or 912 B flat From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 10 18:50:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45264183466; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 18:50:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=/KXL8Hy37+FoycoFkxT303wvtjzwZXFOYBR1CKUY9xw=; b=WZBKRhtIq55fR/IILgo1tb7wjXxlJv9MDIxA1b+6B1MlZ64kfc7RuX9jrtM2VMtCZC wAGZsEGKXhOKlSgI1eIfIYDi+pDVcNx16/LYM6GzAsSEPi7ovufeVzj1grZwm1iu+wN5 pyD1IKqDD30Y9BItpLxvl9kDXP+gNyKoTWD/y1mOCF75fLMNF1sydqMUdsAJWVJRtSGZ gjUQsCsRTYWe+6FhjjJpxAD9C3sJZC0dzsfZYlZ/1/LOLxVcoQiebXhGZ4QtEy9LgKYs wPTtIbBGvW0yWMcOXIme7rdDtA+2W2B9PLOc2ZuZ7LnqeA24RnplDLjyDFu9mZ1UA6XS axpQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <509E9FA0.8050208@tiscali.co.uk> References: <5AF93E1A-8EC1-48F3-937D-DCEA025694FD@baymoon.com> <509E9FA0.8050208@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 10:50:38 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? From: Ben Edwards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6244b8572a6404ce288bab Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119143 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 18:50:40 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b6244b8572a6404ce288bab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I wonder if someone can make a "mystical chime bar" guitar that could electronically adjust to different SCALA temperments. On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 10:40 AM, andy butler wrote: > > would be more convincing if any 2 sources could ever agree on where > these chakras are, > > and if those frequencies weren't in the "mystical aluminium chime bar" > range, > > and the scale wasn't picked from easily available chime bar frequencies. > > > hmmm...nice scale to mess with > > > Or in other words...formulate your system...make some music. > and it matters not at all that this info you provide isn't taken > seriously. > > > > andy > > > > > Jack Cattedra wrote: > >> To further expand on the 432 tuning, these are other frequencies & their >> corresponding keys that you could mess with. >> >> Here's a picture diagram: http://ecoki.com/wp-content/** >> uploads/7chakra.jpg >> >> Crown 216,432, or 864 A >> 3rd Eye 144,288, or 576 D >> Throat 192,384, or 768 G >> Heart 128,256, or 512 C >> Solar Plexus 182,364, or 728 F# >> Sacral 303,606, or 1212 E flat >> Root 228,456, or 912 B flat >> > > --047d7b6244b8572a6404ce288bab Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I wonder if someone can make a "mystical chime bar" guitar that c= ould electronically adjust to different SCALA temperments.=A0

On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 10:40 AM, andy butler <= akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

would be more convincing if any 2 sources could ever agree on where
these chakras are,

and if those frequencies weren't in the "mystical aluminium chime = bar" range,

and the scale wasn't picked from easily available chime bar frequencies= .


hmmm...nice scale to mess with


Or in other words...formulate your system...make some music.
and it matters not at all that this info you provide isn't taken
seriously.



andy




Jack Cattedra wrote:
To further expand on the 432 tuning, these are other frequencies & thei= r corresponding keys that you could mess with.

Here's a picture diagram: http://ecoki.com/wp-content/uploads= /7chakra.jpg

Crown 216,432, or 864 A
3rd Eye 144,288, or 576 D
Throat 192,384, or 768 G
Heart 128,256, or 512 C
Solar Plexus 182,364, or 728 F#
Sacral 303,606, or 1212 E flat
Root 228,456, or 912 B flat


--047d7b6244b8572a6404ce288bab-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 10 19:00:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9479118345D; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 19:00:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ac2xhxcp1ovu8ueXSknn59LKuarMX21uWALRVN3Wk7A=; b=NSN86PKt92doU9O4jLdnk7vpmniSbTr03FK/Dji7+Hw463RB5PW25AU4C5GjWDnpfT P/fuqtF1drHepHOJEke+GcfWsx0mpx9UInjAtMWF2KOiMko6AMRuzAk1BsZRVQUrXxOT Ys5w9kXuBRPRsjYRxvnM6i4MW+O2yZLxOjiCPtr09iHSTwHFNbK7RBm+/HI7UwTmFoSJ hrfw1L4qRkXAU24J+EqwCT8g+nGL2u694B4O30Dj4HevRp05nx3cq6epe5hkeTyqlu+6 dJZmkHeHM97J9j2eJeyBVHNZT9i8SLRGXeu0nkdibgu98gCUc8DQcWuv9EYHH5qN8NQv YQHA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <5AF93E1A-8EC1-48F3-937D-DCEA025694FD@baymoon.com> <509E9FA0.8050208@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 20:00:35 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <6Q6dT.A.C1B.VRqnQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119144 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 19:00:37 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Ben Edwards wrote: > I wonder if someone can make a "mystical chime bar" guitar that could > electronically adjust to different SCALA temperments. Roland's COSM might do this. Anyone here looked enough into the GR-55 to chime in? (that's still on my to-do-list...) To be clear: Can one set up a custom alternate COSM tuning? If so, all you have to do is type in the microtonal off-sets, no matter if you relate to MTS, Scala, Native Instrument's or Korg's system. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 10 19:41:19 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 830DD183460; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 19:41:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Ppaje0+kAirPBv0EDHyOz15eve877eWPBCXwC8AJT0g=; b=lHk1HQmKDJENj2u6RrVYpeP+WHpziHbGMvnXAWpQI+0EEX4x3tKs6Xy34N2Ze9cWrL 1Jd+qwQu6osVn9XRQcKKPyph/UBsZaK/QgZDD3cwcCo9PRL2DEUQp+soKGpZhbhAGN/R y+L+LHqeHPLTU79eR+FiEa8CJIIAuIIUNNnJhcXKQNpfK+u9OF8+rR37D9NC8LR3wh7j SFd4AGAuQNDawWIYZnZU4t2KNU4Hpp6wU9PdC5x/TmewGNiJgVfRjYjeva4WHban+p7I 6PBhALbHl2r0CdvI8ziEo2dhIJxLT1p2YdlACwAxsypFfTXxTrHX+k1xSMuEQHJPHK4P hzhA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 11:41:17 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: MIDI synch multiple loopers/samplers? From: Ben Edwards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b343b2a7eb2d704ce294023 Resent-Message-ID: <6pvXaC.A.BPC.f3qnQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119145 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 19:41:19 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b343b2a7eb2d704ce294023 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm really new to using outboard gear for looping, most of my experience is in Ableton Live and Reason but I have played around with the Line 6 DL4 in the past. I'm curious what methods people use to have different loopers synched together. For instance I have a Looperlative LP2 that can have MIDI out to slave something to it like my Behringer Virtualizer Pro which has a sampler and MIDI in. How many of you are using multiple loopers/samplers linked together for layering? --047d7b343b2a7eb2d704ce294023 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm really new to using outboard gear for looping, most of my experienc= e is in Ableton Live and Reason but I have played around with the Line 6 DL= 4 in the past.=A0 I'm curious what methods people use to have different= loopers synched together.=A0 For instance I have a Looperlative LP2 that c= an have MIDI out to slave something to it like my Behringer Virtualizer Pro= which has a sampler and MIDI in.=A0 How many of you are using multiple loo= pers/samplers linked together for layering?=A0
--047d7b343b2a7eb2d704ce294023-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 10 19:41:48 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0821A18345B; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 19:41:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=vg99lnNPYtMk9fk7p9oi8pYvJcnr2frMBdgp0EK6AqM=; b=kg8iDRangQagGUmOeEB/2EaD67HtnxLVSMAbtttVnaKfZRhyZL87WHHNEVJNHKkgET 7yfsE+yNvCAQb1T3wIhUruOEkTDT1wlJ6JK3JqJSX0Nc0naD4tCRc+7YOf9PGHcf+dvn w4haj1Yl4QCmerxtR1Yb8omKuHO/6IMzCmWqGqRaDrSYNm91vaP1FIACtlcGdTb4UEvl zh34XsdyTaLs8f8Y2xPIX/f/c++UqcrRqrOtpGkjo9oEeF2+h5T/G40eEF0Iy1vgBH2n nKjB3+hPp2853eJxlDIAiGFKy8Y1gbOS4OEeKl4SUBOr8iVhgn9qUdyfLlwC2k3eKMMb 8PtQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <43BD2BFE-A639-444C-8D3B-E1B3372179CE@gmail.com> References: <43BD2BFE-A639-444C-8D3B-E1B3372179CE@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 11:41:46 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Couple of Late Night Looping experiments From: Todd Elliott To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b621fba3bc93c04ce29428a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119146 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 19:41:47 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b621fba3bc93c04ce29428a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It only appears huge because of the fisheye lens. It's a Machinedrum. T On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 10:21 AM, RP Collier wrote: > > On Nov 10, 2012, at 12:18 AM, Todd Elliott wrote: > > One on video: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJWwikyAMBs&feature=youtu.be > > > > > What is that long bit of gear in the foreground? The biggest drum synth in > the world? > > > BobC > -- http://toaster.bandcamp.com --047d7b621fba3bc93c04ce29428a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It only appears huge because of the fisheye lens. It's a Machinedrum.

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O= n Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 10:21 AM, RP Collier <skeptikalist@gmail.com= > wrote:

On Nov 10, 2012, at 12:18 AM, Todd Elliott wrote:
One on video:



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What is that long bit of gear in the foreground? The bigge= st drum synth in the world?


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--047d7b621fba3bc93c04ce29428a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 10 21:33:01 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 11DCC18345C; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 21:33:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=2KULmEI1IAz8hvQOKKPGvwYpdqHPHJDV/Etmma+uMM0=; b=iQHp1qNIJUxODyJj1o15mEbBAlo4hfOL4n/7jl7ntZZM4eaf+Fe1xFXIE6S2eLJEAV w2/Ky9ru/v4LgpSLflLUAeVr7UV7AQ5DDeS1/OX1307QddFx5IIniyoc4n0coBFAT+xK kifwKlP+NiETQ3v1/nU4EqtYbC8SRmwtVZpXzRAUMQSd0dGxOeaBYfx9fk4O7szA+hzs E5Ch8IIdWHYFh3dQ/s1piQBlDncfIKw+quAJMepwyw4OQlv6mgda1jIeyTfhlaa0cS6S xUS0yhsqZ1Qhoq9ymAx5AS8LHmCSage4j8P3TKM3JVRIG4LDmq2S2IB5NhBtLbpV3BH1 cxlA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 22:32:59 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: MIDI synch multiple loopers/samplers? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119147 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 21:33:00 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Ben Edwards wrote: > How many of you are using multiple loopers/samplers linked together for > layering? Not me... :-) Any more. I have done it, sort of, in the past. Not for layering though, since sync between devices didn't lock up well. In the slave sync position I used a multi track looper (Electrixpro Repeater) and since it offered four parallel mono tracks per loop I used that device for laying down stuff that I wanted to go tight together, even though I time-shifted tracks etc inside the box. The Repeater was constantly busy to follow MIDI Clock signal coming from my main looper, an EDP. So whenever I changed tempo in the EDP the slave looper fell into an epileptic time loops and rubber-band-repelled back into a non defined range hovering around the correct tempo. The EDP though was rock solid so I used that one for layering parts that need to sit tight with rhythm. I think this approach is good to use with all MIDI Clock synced devices; putting "rubber band friendly material" into the slave synced looper and timing critical stuff in the master sync looper. Today I use Mobius on a laptop but if I needed to play with several hardware loopers today I think my first idea would be trying to get along without any sync at all. I would daisy-chain them and start looping in the first box and when I run into needing to multiply up that short loop into several, while adding some long bows, I would simply kick Record on the second looper and record my new longer loop together with the spinning (shorter) first loop. With some cables and a soldering iron one could expand such a hardware looping board into a hardware ping pong system; put in a foot switch that reverses the order of the two loopers, empty the one that you just did copy *from* and now use this unit to copy the second looper's content plus your new live playing. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 10 22:33:01 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECA9218345D; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 22:33:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:subject:from:to:cc:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer; bh=Dm+oa05JfMSTqbbEWnUxZbXcs7N8Dhdt0nv+XqbTtwk=; b=0l+I0SCfVmG9wIO1vEM65d4onuojssEW1BuGapChVsPs5zgPB3JqbfpT9Lp1/NfGua ZmozQpc95uiu/O/t9v0ckgWDmSGBawgG2s9b6ux3AfLbGdbpS118EQrs0zMyIXsRPtmv Gh7huLjkhCp49QGtLZqahKjI7PcLINFng52z5gmBdoAo9NJsYqK6wTb2jRJmI9oPxk4d LXonxBJJU6JpqMwk7O91Zl7f1RzxOsyzT8daJxQ0eKwKw4G0rviyFQ73DiMnvBvqQC0b 5lJ8/DIETN0379QLJeIDMCyx1AwhmwrDYOUXJr5rdJHBKy/UkjtzhUhzoxZnt6Br6bTJ grAA== Message-ID: <509ed61a.e38a440a.2b6e.7907@mx.google.com> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 14:32:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: MIDI synch multiple loopers/samplers? From: "astralmnemonics@gmail.com" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com CC: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Seven Enterprise Gateway (v 2.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119148 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 22:33:00 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Per I just have to invest the time into actually playing around with my gear enough to be able to get what I want and know what I'm doing to get there. -----Original Message----- Date: Saturday, November 10, 2012 1:33:08 pm To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Per Boysen" Subject: Re: MIDI synch multiple loopers/samplers? On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Ben Edwards wrote: > How many of you are using multiple loopers/samplers linked together for > layering? Not me... :-) Any more. I have done it, sort of, in the past. Not for layering though, since sync between devices didn't lock up well. In the slave sync position I used a multi track looper (Electrixpro Repeater) and since it offered four parallel mono tracks per loop I used that device for laying down stuff that I wanted to go tight together, even though I time-shifted tracks etc inside the box. The Repeater was constantly busy to follow MIDI Clock signal coming from my main looper, an EDP. So whenever I changed tempo in the EDP the slave looper fell into an epileptic time loops and rubber-band-repelled back into a non defined range hovering around the correct tempo. The EDP though was rock solid so I used that one for layering parts that need to sit tight with rhythm. I think this approach is good to use with all MIDI Clo From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 10 22:51:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B88418345E; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 22:51:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=D4djWKwBpjyGVO9+krXzlVsIcC+jRoJhafUoboFXIcY=; b=a8jC0SOXtiJHPl0zaMvgpVw4GShMbeEhhY8vl1f4W/lUe0rGv4KMYIPSVXkB5Z1ljf 1ouIcej5IjPYIIVP8q+NQKcmIwylR1oQvuzjoz6fs5gRZGeMyBxJlWrMr9h5UngEfznw Z7Blnc9LCc+kU5NfbHVjO0U6pGpquCuaDwV2p7ZlArDPE2HDwpfOz0Gt/5pG3PRPaAuN D4fQXErGbfN14Qo6r++FwmFsoLPDz+FreQ7Nni/GAzStgXp1l/CO4jN2rlNE4dyvFION QH6Ot2oz/NezSRgmIkgv5CbnSgKqQDxXppD5o+jhi/xSW4uwwe3BNqHw/M/OJj8iGic3 wDbg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <509ed61a.e38a440a.2b6e.7907@mx.google.com> References: <509ed61a.e38a440a.2b6e.7907@mx.google.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 23:51:03 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c8ovDuC9gEizwxO1P6mSnYuZ1pQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: MIDI synch multiple loopers/samplers? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6242b657ac5104ce2be8df Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119149 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 22:51:25 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b6242b657ac5104ce2be8df Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 And Im still using the same set-up that Per said he used to use! I have a Repeater and 2 EDPs. I agree with Per that getting rock solid synch between Repeater and the EDPs is fragile at the most, but weirdly I dont care about that. The EDPS are totally perfectly synched, with some exceptions after a few weird combination of commands , reverse and half speed can have issues... The repeater suffers from only being able to synch to a relatively narrow BPM range, so I often have to "Change down" the gears in EDP, to get it to follow. But in a way its one of the nice features. I have half my gear synched to one EDP and the other half (delays, and a cool effects sequencer (Roland EF303) to the other EDP. and a drum machine, arpegiation on a guitar synth, and an analog sequencer thats sends out CV to a few effect pedals. So by flipping between different 8th settings (as its known on the EDP - or divisions of the tempo), I can affect the speed between devices. Its a headache... frankly... and a noisy headache too... (dodgy cables and bad levels) but I still prefer it to my much more compact software solution, as it keeps me away from Facebook, checking my mail, watching films, making computers games, editing films, fiddling with my website, and writing idiotic blogs... let alone getting the f***ing software to work... If I was starting now, Id say step away from the black boxes and flashing lights, and run, not walk to the mac store... but for me its too late, I have already pressed my bloody finger against the invisible fingers of my hard metal friends, and we are destined to loop together forever. M On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 11:32 PM, astralmnemonics@gmail.com < astralmnemonics@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Per > > I just have to invest the time into actually playing around with my gear > enough to be able to get what I want and know what I'm doing to get there. > -----Original Message----- > Date: Saturday, November 10, 2012 1:33:08 pm > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > From: "Per Boysen" > Subject: Re: MIDI synch multiple loopers/samplers? > > On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Ben Edwards > wrote: > > How many of you are using multiple loopers/samplers linked together for > > layering? > > > Not me... :-) Any more. > > I have done it, sort of, in the past. Not for layering though, since > sync between devices didn't lock up well. In the slave sync position I > used a multi track looper (Electrixpro Repeater) and since it offered > four parallel mono tracks per loop I used that device for laying down > stuff that I wanted to go tight together, even though I time-shifted > tracks etc inside the box. The Repeater was constantly busy to follow > MIDI Clock signal coming from my main looper, an EDP. So whenever I > changed tempo in the EDP the slave looper fell into an epileptic time > loops and rubber-band-repelled back into a non defined range hovering > around the correct tempo. The EDP though was rock solid so I used that > one for layering parts that need to sit tight with rhythm. > > I think this approach is good to use with all MIDI Clo > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b6242b657ac5104ce2be8df Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And Im still using the same set-up that Per said he used to use! I have a R= epeater and 2 EDPs. I agree with Per that getting rock solid synch between = Repeater and the EDPs is fragile at the most, but weirdly I dont care about= that. The EDPS are totally perfectly synched, with some exceptions after a= few weird combination of commands , reverse and half speed can have issues= ...
The repeater suffers from only being able to synch to a relatively narrow B= PM range, so I often have to "Change down" the gears in EDP, to g= et it to follow. But in a way its one of the nice features. I have half my = gear synched to one EDP and the other half (delays, and a cool effects sequ= encer (Roland EF303) to the other EDP. and a drum machine, arpegiation on a= guitar synth,=A0 and an analog sequencer thats sends out CV to a few effec= t pedals. So by flipping between different 8th settings (as its known on th= e EDP - or divisions of the tempo), I can affect the speed between devices.=

Its a headache... frankly...=A0 and a noisy headache too... (dodgy cabl= es and bad levels)=A0 but I still prefer it to my much more compact softwar= e solution, as it keeps me away from Facebook,=A0 checking my mail, watchin= g films, making computers games, editing films, fiddling with my website, a= nd writing idiotic blogs... let alone getting the f***ing software to work.= ..

If I was starting now, Id say step away from the black boxes and flashi= ng lights, and run, not walk to the mac store... but for me its too late, I= have already pressed my bloody finger against the invisible fingers of my = hard metal friends, and we are destined to loop together forever.

M


On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 11:32 P= M, astralmnemonics@gmail.com <astralmnemonics@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Per

I just have to invest the time into actually playing around with my gear en= ough to be able to get what I want and know what I'm doing to get there= .
-----Original Message-----
Date: Saturday, November 10, 2012 1:33:08 pm
To: Loopers-Delight@= loopers-delight.com
From: "Per Boysen" <per= boysen@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: MIDI synch multiple loopers/samplers?

On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Ben Edwards <astralmnemonics@gmail.com> wrote:
> How many of you are using multiple loopers/samplers linked together fo= r
> layering?


Not me... :-) Any more.

I have done it, sort of, in the past. Not for layering though, since
sync between devices didn't lock up well. In the slave sync position I<= br> used a multi track looper (Electrixpro Repeater) and since it offered
four parallel mono tracks per loop I used that device for laying down
stuff that I wanted to go tight together, even though I time-shifted
tracks etc inside the box. The Repeater was constantly busy to follow
MIDI Clock signal coming from my main looper, an EDP. So whenever I
changed tempo in the EDP the slave looper fell into an epileptic time
loops and rubber-band-repelled back into a non defined range hovering
around the correct tempo. The EDP though was rock solid so I used that
one for layering parts that need to sit tight with rhythm.

I think this approach is good to use with all MIDI Clo




--
= Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
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--047d7b6242b657ac5104ce2be8df-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 10 23:58:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4DA45183453; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 23:58:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_3aab8ff9-0eb1-46ae-82a8-4362054885e8_" X-Originating-IP: [184.145.20.52] From: Jack Cattedra To: Subject: RE: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 23:58:48 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <509E9FA0.8050208@tiscali.co.uk> References: <5AF93E1A-8EC1-48F3-937D-DCEA025694FD@baymoon.com> ,<509E9FA0.8050208@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2012 23:58:48.0177 (UTC) FILETIME=[534B6E10:01CDBF9F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119150 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 23:58:49 +0000 (UTC) --_3aab8ff9-0eb1-46ae-82a8-4362054885e8_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable WORD=2C fuck the rules - they don't exist the way sound infinitely does. So= me douche bag came up with the rules. lolll > Date: Sat=2C 10 Nov 2012 18:40:32 +0000 > From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? >=20 > in other words...formulate your system...make some music. = --_3aab8ff9-0eb1-46ae-82a8-4362054885e8_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
WORD=2C fuck the rules - they don't exist the way sound infinitely does. So= me douche bag came up with the rules. lolll

>=3B Date: Sat=2C 10 Nov 2012 18:40:32 +0000
>=3B= From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight= .com
>=3B Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz?
>=3B
>=3B&nb= sp=3B in other words...formulate your system...make some music.
=
= --_3aab8ff9-0eb1-46ae-82a8-4362054885e8_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 11 00:55:57 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB31118345E; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 00:55:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Kf1KXkutJ+gGorIFcqV9yJA0Cy69UtXgfm/HQKrGoWE=; b=IOrxq8BGeQaEgVLTmT24hxe/0lsC9AOJIKZNYS+SZssoxgxwKcZjEWAS6l9AhMLvrk 7sbZ3d1QWDmHtz463Nwj2MQr/5CtBWIMMpU+JYkswLGCW8VH9cLXPuqMzh6PKMD1TcrZ 2aD/nQNG+bGLrnyRIwLfpOgu5oDPf6ZjtIUcfQeY5Dt8nY8HmrsCZntQaEcl8ItPtaOU 6lzg7MdhBn9Whw5h8QXuujWwJT/3Zisn34dI+BD4k3xk4oN6IXsH6zh7ff3PmMckW0VY XSn2eZ1YemOFeT2NdNdTwVuq7uLVwT0QmAKJmFwQh34yYCZgt+Yma1liWuMT+1FaHH44 e+vA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <509ed61a.e38a440a.2b6e.7907@mx.google.com> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:55:56 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: MIDI synch multiple loopers/samplers? From: Ben Edwards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b603d76be81b604ce2da5f5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119151 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 00:55:57 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b603d76be81b604ce2da5f5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well I really do love Ableton Live and Propellorhead's Reason and I agree about getting a Mac for the ultimate performance out of software. It's just that part of me grew up playing guitar and bass so I also really love playing with stomp boxes and connecting hardware to make analog synthesis sounds, noise and all. The software is perfect for clean editing and routing but there is something unpredictable about playing with old gear and trying to make it musical. I guess I'm trying to bridge the old and new without giving up on either one. On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 2:51 PM, mark francombe wrote: > And Im still using the same set-up that Per said he used to use! I have a > Repeater and 2 EDPs. I agree with Per that getting rock solid synch between > Repeater and the EDPs is fragile at the most, but weirdly I dont care about > that. The EDPS are totally perfectly synched, with some exceptions after a > few weird combination of commands , reverse and half speed can have > issues... > The repeater suffers from only being able to synch to a relatively narrow > BPM range, so I often have to "Change down" the gears in EDP, to get it to > follow. But in a way its one of the nice features. I have half my gear > synched to one EDP and the other half (delays, and a cool effects sequencer > (Roland EF303) to the other EDP. and a drum machine, arpegiation on a > guitar synth, and an analog sequencer thats sends out CV to a few effect > pedals. So by flipping between different 8th settings (as its known on the > EDP - or divisions of the tempo), I can affect the speed between devices. > > Its a headache... frankly... and a noisy headache too... (dodgy cables > and bad levels) but I still prefer it to my much more compact software > solution, as it keeps me away from Facebook, checking my mail, watching > films, making computers games, editing films, fiddling with my website, and > writing idiotic blogs... let alone getting the f***ing software to work... > > If I was starting now, Id say step away from the black boxes and flashing > lights, and run, not walk to the mac store... but for me its too late, I > have already pressed my bloody finger against the invisible fingers of my > hard metal friends, and we are destined to loop together forever. > > M > > > > On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 11:32 PM, astralmnemonics@gmail.com < > astralmnemonics@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks Per >> >> I just have to invest the time into actually playing around with my gear >> enough to be able to get what I want and know what I'm doing to get there. >> -----Original Message----- >> Date: Saturday, November 10, 2012 1:33:08 pm >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> From: "Per Boysen" >> Subject: Re: MIDI synch multiple loopers/samplers? >> >> On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Ben Edwards >> wrote: >> > How many of you are using multiple loopers/samplers linked together for >> > layering? >> >> >> Not me... :-) Any more. >> >> I have done it, sort of, in the past. Not for layering though, since >> sync between devices didn't lock up well. In the slave sync position I >> used a multi track looper (Electrixpro Repeater) and since it offered >> four parallel mono tracks per loop I used that device for laying down >> stuff that I wanted to go tight together, even though I time-shifted >> tracks etc inside the box. The Repeater was constantly busy to follow >> MIDI Clock signal coming from my main looper, an EDP. So whenever I >> changed tempo in the EDP the slave looper fell into an epileptic time >> loops and rubber-band-repelled back into a non defined range hovering >> around the correct tempo. The EDP though was rock solid so I used that >> one for layering parts that need to sit tight with rhythm. >> >> I think this approach is good to use with all MIDI Clo >> >> > > > -- > *Mark Francombe* > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ > > --047d7b603d76be81b604ce2da5f5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well I really do love Ableton Live and Propellorhead's Reason and I agr= ee about getting a Mac for the ultimate performance out of software.=A0 It&= #39;s just that part of me grew up playing guitar and bass so I also really= love playing with stomp boxes and connecting hardware to make analog synth= esis sounds, noise and all.=A0 The software is perfect for clean editing an= d routing but there is something unpredictable about playing with old gear = and trying to make it musical.=A0 I guess I'm trying to bridge the old = and new without giving up on either one.

On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 2:51 PM, mark franco= mbe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
And Im still using the same set-up that Per said he used to use! I have a R= epeater and 2 EDPs. I agree with Per that getting rock solid synch between = Repeater and the EDPs is fragile at the most, but weirdly I dont care about= that. The EDPS are totally perfectly synched, with some exceptions after a= few weird combination of commands , reverse and half speed can have issues= ...
The repeater suffers from only being able to synch to a relatively narrow B= PM range, so I often have to "Change down" the gears in EDP, to g= et it to follow. But in a way its one of the nice features. I have half my = gear synched to one EDP and the other half (delays, and a cool effects sequ= encer (Roland EF303) to the other EDP. and a drum machine, arpegiation on a= guitar synth,=A0 and an analog sequencer thats sends out CV to a few effec= t pedals. So by flipping between different 8th settings (as its known on th= e EDP - or divisions of the tempo), I can affect the speed between devices.=

Its a headache... frankly...=A0 and a noisy headache too... (dodgy cabl= es and bad levels)=A0 but I still prefer it to my much more compact softwar= e solution, as it keeps me away from Facebook,=A0 checking my mail, watchin= g films, making computers games, editing films, fiddling with my website, a= nd writing idiotic blogs... let alone getting the f***ing software to work.= ..

If I was starting now, Id say step away from the black boxes and flashi= ng lights, and run, not walk to the mac store... but for me its too late, I= have already pressed my bloody finger against the invisible fingers of my = hard metal friends, and we are destined to loop together forever.

M



On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 11:32 PM, astralmnemonics@gmail.com <astr= almnemonics@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Per

I just have to invest the time into actually playing around with my gear en= ough to be able to get what I want and know what I'm doing to get there= .
-----Original Message-----
Date: Saturday, November 10, 2012 1:33:08 pm
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
From: "Per Boysen" <perboysen@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: MIDI synch multiple loopers/samplers?

On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Ben Edwards <astralmnemonics@gmail.com> wrot= e:
> How many of you are using multiple loopers/samplers linked together fo= r
> layering?


Not me... :-) Any more.

I have done it, sort of, in the past. Not for layering though, since
sync between devices didn't lock up well. In the slave sync position I<= br> used a multi track looper (Electrixpro Repeater) and since it offered
four parallel mono tracks per loop I used that device for laying down
stuff that I wanted to go tight together, even though I time-shifted
tracks etc inside the box. The Repeater was constantly busy to follow
MIDI Clock signal coming from my main looper, an EDP. So whenever I
changed tempo in the EDP the slave looper fell into an epileptic time
loops and rubber-band-repelled back into a non defined range hovering
around the correct tempo. The EDP though was rock solid so I used that
one for layering parts that need to sit tight with rhythm.

I think this approach is good to use with all MIDI Clo




--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
<= /font>

--047d7b603d76be81b604ce2da5f5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 11 01:03:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 56679183455; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 01:03:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_b4ebb76b-5816-43ad-b0e1-d1e482c3839b_" X-Originating-IP: [81.233.147.253] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: Couple of Late Night Looping experiments Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 01:03:54 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,<43BD2BFE-A639-444C-8D3B-E1B3372179CE@gmail.com>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Nov 2012 01:03:54.0540 (UTC) FILETIME=[6BAB1EC0:01CDBFA8] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119152 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 01:03:56 +0000 (UTC) --_b4ebb76b-5816-43ad-b0e1-d1e482c3839b_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And I can see a part of an octatrack as well... and then you use the OP1=2C= is looping done on the OP1 (Swedish gear=2C good stuff :-)=20 Date: Sat=2C 10 Nov 2012 11:41:46 -0800 Subject: Re: Couple of Late Night Looping experiments From: toddbert@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com It only appears huge because of the fisheye lens. It's a Machinedrum. T On Sat=2C Nov 10=2C 2012 at 10:21 AM=2C RP Collier = wrote: On Nov 10=2C 2012=2C at 12:18 AM=2C Todd Elliott wrote: One on video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DsJWwikyAMBs&feature=3Dyoutu.be What is that long bit of gear in the foreground? The biggest drum synth in = the world? BobC --=20 http://toaster.bandcamp.com = --_b4ebb76b-5816-43ad-b0e1-d1e482c3839b_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
And I can see a part of an octatrack as well... and then you use the OP1=2C= is looping done on the OP1 (Swedish gear=2C good stuff :-) =3B

=
Date: Sa= t=2C 10 Nov 2012 11:41:46 -0800
Subject: Re: Couple of Late Night Loopin= g experiments
From: toddbert@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-de= light.com

It only appears huge because of the fisheye lens. It's a M= achinedrum.


T

On Sat=2C Nov 10=2C 2012 at 10:21 AM=2C RP Collier <=3Bskeptikalist@gmail= .com>=3B wrote:
=
On Nov 10=2C 2012=2C at 12:18 AM=2C Todd Elliott wrote:

One on video:


=

What is that long bit of gear in the foreground? The bigge= st drum synth in the world?


BobC



--
http://toaster.bandc= amp.com
= --_b4ebb76b-5816-43ad-b0e1-d1e482c3839b_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 11 01:05:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6052B18345D; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 01:05:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=oa4lrFirWyplZZ3xdHYXuF+XD7cp0hvTyxuqUzDZ1LM=; b=vZmvjHbwS6QrfHV6uRTRPP9A68qe6qjuHqPDPE+ZHMcm/FXdiIe4NHjTBPN6Z/3dd4 dbp2lepbhSXzDPR18VH6jZHBOMfDdbYRelN2zW6u83K0E2xFP1ivVnI6TQFrwqrHOU1o dYUtf0lD5XdSE9jRlE8LHNgkstrgJ9y6qN7M3oGmm1fh88qya7lJqyL4ytmGvWpCpt4N 4L1Pmq+pS44eDAg2+7k9VAwmh1szfWhMn+u6e2zkBKC4u9+aRoXMCb/MihgrvXa2/rBn Bj2uwDohzIZZDhQJ7nyLIT+eNkGYQqupBw5calwvjFb5gA4MZDwHC8Ho0F0IJVXPTf+J 869w== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <43BD2BFE-A639-444C-8D3B-E1B3372179CE@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 20:05:52 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Couple of Late Night Looping experiments From: Sylvain Poitras To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b62275e41b5c004ce2dc9b0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119153 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 01:05:53 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b62275e41b5c004ce2dc9b0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Nice tracks Todd! (You certainly have some nice toys!) Sylvain --047d7b62275e41b5c004ce2dc9b0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nice tracks Todd!=A0
(You certainly have some nice toys!)
Sylvain
--047d7b62275e41b5c004ce2dc9b0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 11 01:21:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1F2C18345C; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 01:21:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_dfd9b72c-0731-41f7-a0ea-22f38a1a212e_" X-Originating-IP: [81.233.147.253] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: Researching micro tunings "hands-on" (was: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz?) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 01:21:35 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,<509B9317.3040506@virgin.net> , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Nov 2012 01:21:35.0192 (UTC) FILETIME=[E3DDC580:01CDBFAA] Resent-Message-ID: <47iGv.A.NLF.g2vnQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119154 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 01:21:36 +0000 (UTC) --_dfd9b72c-0731-41f7-a0ea-22f38a1a212e_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very cool examples.. i have used my octatrack to play loops in just interva= ls be channing rate of playback rather than pitch.. this is a experiment fr= om a while back..http://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/floating-in-just-vaw= es and this is an example of improvising with a home made scale with microtone= s..http://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/the-lost-apprentice-of-the From: mark@markfrancombe.com Date: Thu=2C 8 Nov 2012 14:20:43 +0100 Subject: Re: Researching micro tunings "hands-on" (was: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432= Hz?) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Fantastic Harry! This is a DX7 II? Its sounds alot like scanning thru wavetables=2C like on = my Korg MS2000=2C or the Blacet Miniwave (in my modular synth). That must have been tough with no knobs?? > http://soundcloud.com/davedraper-1/one4harry-exc --=20 Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.comwww.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ = --_dfd9b72c-0731-41f7-a0ea-22f38a1a212e_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Very cool examples.. i have used my octatrack to play loops in just int= ervals be channing rate of playback rather than pitch.. this is a experimen= t from a while back..
http://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/floating-in= -just-vawes

and this is an example of improvising = with a home made scale with microtones..
http://soundcloud.com/an= ders-bergdahl/the-lost-apprentice-of-the
From: mark@markfrancombe.com
Date: T= hu=2C 8 Nov 2012 14:20:43 +0100
Subject: Re: Researching micro tunings "= hands-on" (was: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz?)
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-del= ight.com

Fantastic Harry!
This is a DX7 II? Its sounds alot like = scanning thru wavetables=2C like on my Korg MS2000=2C or the Blacet Miniwav= e (in my modular synth).
That must have been tough with no knobs??






--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
= --_dfd9b72c-0731-41f7-a0ea-22f38a1a212e_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 11 01:29:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 545DB18345E; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 01:29:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <9E08DCEE-DE08-40CE-AEFB-C6C55EC99EC6@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5-628018541 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Loopers in the news Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 17:29:33 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119155 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 01:29:41 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5-628018541 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Richard, actually I'm committed to doing it myself, my solo CD is already mastered, Erdem did a masterful job producing it and I'm really pleased with it. I'm interested in finding out how many people might be interested in a hard copy, you know, that archaic form of music distribution that has liner notes and art work and a thing called a CD? If anyone from this list is interested, please contact me off list. i will also make it available for download as well > > Bill... > > KICKSTARTER! > > I'd contribute --Apple-Mail-5-628018541 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks = Richard, actually I'm committed to doing it myself, my solo CD is = already mastered, Erdem did a masterful job producing it and I'm really = pleased with it.  I'm interested in finding out how many people = might be interested in a hard copy, you know,  that archaic form of = music distribution that has liner notes and art work and a thing called = a CD?  If anyone from this list is interested, please contact me = off list.  i will also make it available for download as = well



Bill... 



I'd contribute
= --Apple-Mail-5-628018541-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 11 03:02:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A8F4183460; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 03:02:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:subject:from:to:cc:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer; bh=tJ3sDndMIQZnKsdHHBjTodVxs3hd8kvONSS9M9cvMpw=; b=zmt0z0hbJsTyIDGLZfoM29jJsm2JAlN3KLysGuf53ggNN+W/DjA7AN4DER8UWFgjR9 5x0+erRLo1kXApdW7+290zARiVa+SvTI1Fl7qWeufTkxKXOrFBAKVFA81NH+9r+wMlkX DbxprrNyxxYt71eul+M5p9EG7XUKrb1fwQOvr5oVDVJw7qPOovNhBB0sfHsQcz123S4G qzVfd3buo5ilVr088vPwM2Idil07x9xVrimLuAl/Y1WFhEhgUUw+5Pady+va0iWtg58I e4w7ZS9YfDybgPezpib8yYystvWs23spXYvA/aszieVlLH4Nd0U1qunjjbuutskR33+p Kghw== Message-ID: <509f153d.45e8440a.3a73.ffff8770@mx.google.com> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 19:02:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: Solo shows From: "astralmnemonics@gmail.com" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com CC: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Seven Enterprise Gateway (v 2.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119156 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 03:02:23 +0000 (UTC) How many of you guys play out solo with your looping? What kinds of places do you play? Wineries, art spaces? I've gigged a lot in rock bands through the club scene but have no experience out here on the sonic fringes of performance art with solo, looping, improvised performances. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 11 03:06:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1BDB183460; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 03:06:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1548111607==" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20121111030615.15573.59478.levelstar.mail@everest> Sender: Tyler Reply-to: Tyler From: Tyler Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 22:06:16 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Subject: Re: Solo shows Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119157 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 03:06:22 +0000 (UTC) Unable to read this email, please upgrage your mail client --===============1548111607== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So=20far,=20I've=20only=20done=20it=20solo.=20In=20December=202010,=20I=20d= id=20a=20Christmas=20electronic=20 show,=20and=20in=20July=202011,=20I=20did=20an=20upbeat=20techno=20(as=20we= ll=20as=20soft=20Disney-esque=20MIDI)=20 electronic=20show. Tyler=20Z On=20Sat,=2010=20Nov=202012=2019:02:21=20-0800=20(PST),=20astralmnemonics@g= mail.com=20wrote: >How=20many=20of=20you=20guys=20play=20out=20solo=20with=20your=20looping?= =20=20What=20kinds=20of=20places=20do=20 >you=20play?=20=20Wineries,=20art=20spaces?=20=20I've=20gigged=20a=20lot=20= in=20rock=20bands=20through=20the=20 >club=20scene=20but=20have=20no=20experience=20out=20here=20on=20the=20soni= c=20fringes=20of=20performance=20 >art=20with=20solo,=20looping,=20improvised=20performances.=20=20 --===============1548111607==-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 11 03:34:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 516C618345D; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 03:34:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=kUKoiEsKCNvpG7lJRSAEMdtsJOmwXN+Qr9D80MZurD0=; b=ZWTuTWqG2oufWYVlThWlvGFdXj+9KX1VLIE2BLR4cyp5JEbPi7FOGcm6rujeSuYPXw xjOFm6zf7u/PmLyOqrWIRg0XiwVBtKvw37KSZ4TXt4OEpi3qKJU6vQvFH752GVroWcyh wy8+EzqQfTWEDo0Dp4/rn+7q0KHSqBSaMT4lD9mJ1J0wp8AwfuaikqIRraAcO3NcN9yl gG64y/E9JQioJH5qDoRKrBizE31HCeczsHaSl0mLG5RjDN00DrPriL2rCiTDS3mHEMBf uGLzObjTip6sV43ndy77mvG/9WtdA2J6VXjtpKGxi1g2GeU0HrgDLDRLF9Y7B0ZhzwFR pg5A== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Re: Solo shows From: "teddyjam.com" In-Reply-To: <509f153d.45e8440a.3a73.ffff8770@mx.google.com> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 22:34:44 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <509f153d.45e8440a.3a73.ffff8770@mx.google.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmKfwBuMpvoA+VDXeQjvvdaRo40JzrRZzFTn6BM6sllxCIVc2DtPbr6io0SyWtPDotrQi21 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119158 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 03:34:47 +0000 (UTC) I play every Monday in NYC top notch NY players reacting spontaneously to my looped songs https://www.youtube.com/user/TeddyKumpel?feature=3Dmhee Teddy On Nov 10, 2012, at 10:02 PM, astralmnemonics@gmail.com wrote: > How many of you guys play out solo with your looping? What kinds of = places do you play? Wineries, art spaces? I've gigged a lot in rock = bands through the club scene but have no experience out here on the = sonic fringes of performance art with solo, looping, improvised = performances. =20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 11 03:46:39 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F3ED18345E; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 03:46:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: Solo shows From: Ed Durbrow In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 12:46:35 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <509f153d.45e8440a.3a73.ffff8770@mx.google.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-VirusScan: Outbound; msa01b; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 12:46:35 +0900 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119159 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 03:46:39 +0000 (UTC) Really nice sounds. Love your guitar playing. On Nov 11, 2012, at 12:34 PM, "teddyjam.com" wrote: > I play every Monday in NYC > top notch NY players reacting spontaneously to my looped songs >=20 > https://www.youtube.com/user/TeddyKumpel?feature=3Dmhee >=20 > Teddy >=20 > On Nov 10, 2012, at 10:02 PM, astralmnemonics@gmail.com wrote: >=20 >> How many of you guys play out solo with your looping? What kinds of = places do you play? Wineries, art spaces? I've gigged a lot in rock = bands through the club scene but have no experience out here on the = sonic fringes of performance art with solo, looping, improvised = performances. =20 >>=20 >=20 Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www.youtube.com/user/edurbrow?feature=3Dwatch http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 11 04:15:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0FEB918345E; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 04:15:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=trufun.com; s=default; h=To:References:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type; bh=oNe4z/phzyT6BXhhssm/WRPGohpsvfyk0HANUCoJ33g=; b=M6pHCIOTBBjRE3CcIIBiFSzTSCBafUgFQVGI0SSqBCBV5UOhf3WcI8+Ef0iUoHHD83VqZmFIejl3eIOkumqHd/iH9nzVRRgvH/c1d1H3wyxC+NbYu2Exab/ZBDeyEtNV; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: Solo shows From: David Gans In-Reply-To: <509f153d.45e8440a.3a73.ffff8770@mx.google.com> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 20:15:37 -0800 Cc: David Gans Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <509f153d.45e8440a.3a73.ffff8770@mx.google.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: vps.gdhour.com: acl_c_relayhosts_text_entry: david@trufun.com|trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119160 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 04:15:42 +0000 (UTC) I play festivals, clubs, farmers' markets, and house concerts. Looping = is a big part of what I do, but I am easily mistaken for a = singer-songwriter. On Nov 10, 2012, at 7:02 PM, "astralmnemonics@gmail.com" = wrote: > How many of you guys play out solo with your looping? What kinds of = places do you play? Wineries, art spaces? I've gigged a lot in rock = bands through the club scene but have no experience out here on the = sonic fringes of performance art with solo, looping, improvised = performances. =20 David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 11 07:04:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 974CC18345E; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 07:04:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=rvQKQL8G7TptdaASRW9NR0ulIvIh0ZWydIsncISDI0c=; b=tnugGDsdyfeo0hRh/DhpRsXeYHXBT6xoaOENFnvt6JiteOQO3+VnJaU7YdwZZYN+nb N6BGNI5t54KLp5Ehj68LNOe+TxaJHRsFY8KjYn6wLFp9U0XkoLEim0tqcAxLzoZ063MP ErHrraUTejq02bvC/JouGlgEGuhj038dmawR2A6S0oTV5lMP8QDMi2k1iOH/4sS4ZdgY ufz9qXOd6TxU3TFZzyeGnT29EToymYG/n/nWO6gLOyRrby2LCLeoozJwK1d3/8V9Kriv 4EBwzVrivcM/SHGwhytkV4RZe+0JJQNiHNCmrjc2U5yvMFda1Up0KJYy9IOtaU0YgyAu VE8Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: danielhlevine@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <509f153d.45e8440a.3a73.ffff8770@mx.google.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 02:04:13 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Mb5sPUNDYg6OH5Z8qfac356zbD8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Solo shows From: daniel To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Cc: David Gans Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f22c6c1dcc5a204ce32ca33 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119161 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 07:04:15 +0000 (UTC) --e89a8f22c6c1dcc5a204ce32ca33 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've done a range. From house shows, small art spaces to bigger clubs. If you book it, I will come. On Saturday, November 10, 2012, David Gans wrote: > > I play festivals, clubs, farmers' markets, and house concerts. Looping is > a big part of what I do, but I am easily mistaken for a singer-songwriter. > > > On Nov 10, 2012, at 7:02 PM, "astralmnemonics@gmail.com " < > astralmnemonics@gmail.com > wrote: > > > How many of you guys play out solo with your looping? What kinds of > places do you play? Wineries, art spaces? I've gigged a lot in rock bands > through the club scene but have no experience out here on the sonic fringes > of performance art with solo, looping, improvised performances. > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com > Web site: http://www.dgans.com > Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans > Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans > > > > > --e89a8f22c6c1dcc5a204ce32ca33 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've done a range. From house shows, small art spaces to bigger clubs. = If you book it, I will come.=A0

On Saturday, November 1= 0, 2012, David Gans wrote:

I play festivals, clubs, farmers' markets, and house concerts. =A0Loopi= ng is a big part of what I do, but I am easily mistaken for a singer-songwr= iter.


On Nov 10, 2012, at 7:02 PM, "astralmnemonics= @gmail.com" <astralmnemonics@gmail.com= > wrote:

> How many of you guys play out solo with your looping? =A0What kinds of= places do you play? =A0Wineries, art spaces? =A0I've gigged a lot in r= ock bands through the club scene but have no experience out here on the son= ic fringes of performance art with solo, looping, improvised performances.<= br>
David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@= gdhour.com
Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730
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Web site: http://www.dga= ns.com
Photos: ht= tp://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans
Music: http:/= /www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans




--e89a8f22c6c1dcc5a204ce32ca33-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 11 09:48:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC0EC18345C; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 09:48:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 819590623/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.22.20/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.22.20 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApIBAJJyn1BYbRYU/2dsb2JhbAANN8Z5AQEBBDhAEQsYCRYPCQMCAQIBDzYZAwGHdAOoZoh0DYlUiyyEDIMnA5Qnhy2FWogA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,756,1344207600"; d="scan'208";a="819590623" Message-ID: <509F746B.5040704@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 09:48:27 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Solo shows References: <509f153d.45e8440a.3a73.ffff8770@mx.google.com> In-Reply-To: <509f153d.45e8440a.3a73.ffff8770@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119162 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 09:48:24 +0000 (UTC) Check out events dedicated to the sort of thing you do. Loop festivals. Ambient/experimental if you fit in that. Also, if you're into that, "open mic" events might be open enough to include you, even if not advertised as such, a great place to try out live playing. Consider that organising an event is the most reliable way to get to play. otherwise there's art events like public/private view, occasional support slots for rock bands, and less nowadays, but corporate events can even provide a paying gig. Does depend on who you know, and how much work you are prepared to put in. andy astralmnemonics@gmail.com wrote: > How many of you guys play out solo with your looping? What kinds of places do you play? >Wineries, art spaces? >solo, looping, improvised performances. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 11 12:14:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DBEED18345D; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 12:14:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=VNpLaLFu8kKS5LzrB3JbS7A+M7shg83P9TVnpyd3rac=; b=jNPtnGqT/niJLVDbAeEjBhpliIBywW7Xj7mRAgffRxqJ1tE8yRpoepxbLU2ZLQEE24 xRgha46iFdJvlX8S9NvbxXur+y6M5uiyx0A4oeG1/sJQ/OVlOgWHEpsp9DH+MODUoJjb rJ4wOqT6pARXQI8roa1JJIRhPwfopWh3Rq9GihYLJVOzJfOSsPZs4uHt6gYb9+k/D/5L kyYd8gg7Hxyg1T4blYLLOQglnNEKNr/uvnTd8PMTfTvP0Dn0/KhKjoKegrdfEqhR55Ga orlFd5AvOPNubrOwp2M4rbFHxKSSEknumrItb5svLiYx49OLoVBRW/0lzlFZznjbdZj/ 4lmw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <509f153d.45e8440a.3a73.ffff8770@mx.google.com> References: <509f153d.45e8440a.3a73.ffff8770@mx.google.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 13:14:25 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Solo shows From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119163 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 12:14:27 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 4:02 AM, astralmnemonics@gmail.com wrote: > How many of you guys play out solo with your looping? Well, I do. Both with and without looping. > What kinds of places do you play? Same kind of events as Andy is listing (below), but I've also done some gigs for companies and clinics at music schools and music fairs. On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 10:48 AM, andy butler wrote: > Check out events dedicated to the sort of thing you do. > Loop festivals. > Ambient/experimental if you fit in that. > > Also, if you're into that, "open mic" events might be open enough to include > you, > even if not advertised as such, > a great place to try out live playing. > > Consider that organising an event is the most reliable way to get to play. > > otherwise there's art events like public/private view, > occasional support slots for rock bands, > and less nowadays, but corporate events can even provide a paying gig. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 11 13:13:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8ED7B18345E; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 13:13:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <509FA467.9070405@soundscapes.us> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 08:13:11 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #814 for November 8, 2012. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119164 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 13:13:15 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/121108.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #814 November 8, 2012. WDIY Playlist: http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels?playlist_date=11-08-2012 RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Palancar. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Ambient Train Wreck Series Volume One" on Blue Water Records. http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#nov I also played music by artists who will appear at the Soundscapes Concert Series and other area concerts. http://soundscapes.us/gt/events PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Orbital Decay Live on WXPN * Live on WXPN (none) Hunter & Harrison Liquid to Gas - Phase 1 (Music with Space) Vaporization ['ramp] blast astral disaster (doombient) Mark Mosher Orbiting Miranda no ghosts_ just fear (none) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Palancar August 12, 2006 Ambient Train Wreck Series Volume One (Blue Water) Palancar June 24, 2006 Ambient Train Wreck Series Volume One (Blue Water) Palancar May 6, 2006 Ambient Train Wreck Series Volume One (Blue Water) Palancar March 4, 2006 Ambient Train Wreck Series Volume One (Blue Water) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Palancar. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Ambient Train Wreck Series Volume Two" on Blue Water Records. WDIY Announcement: http://wdiy.org/post/next-galactic-travels-2012-11-15 Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST/GMT-5 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 11 14:33:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E94C0183462; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 14:33:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=N9hhPPHedd0K4WalSFJTiAqaIIUYn8lCzEJgQgGaFX0=; b=IyPLTLSo1s4QDk8V4pBwVry5iafr42OWp9FROTHPd49F2wNtCXDy0XrxHPf/pL1SPl rTNPBpw10V83Ii/OYxp5aAwHQD0XKI0mgtW2RVsLoRCjw7f2IGqLgFMEv7uEJUu4yXMl g0MUcoubhN5ya1XzZ4vm/dTQWEBvt1vCY4yjl8zWAzAa9E+2Cv/AMdTR96pIJ6KktRqY ZT+KYY68F6vfCMiKrq1BPxI2favV/gBw8OJeCqb3Ry1pYCPANmY22khuBawdcoLM4JFc rVnycqa836aoqJfkGQPH9KGb+dgj1Jq0ao37Xb1MYj3AYIf6b5p+l87WnETeNWtNQOZU LsUg== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Re: Solo shows From: "teddyjam.com" In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 09:33:31 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <509f153d.45e8440a.3a73.ffff8770@mx.google.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmPPuNM/aTKt876GyE8EM1ydN1UI/GScJ2N0bsXYt3PXkYOgtz53iC8/JePWPOX84KhJamz Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119165 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 14:33:34 +0000 (UTC) thanks Ed !! your lute sounds great (what a headstock angle!) and I love = your one man band setup... would love to hear you do some james brown = beats with that thing on your back... On Nov 10, 2012, at 10:46 PM, Ed Durbrow wrote: >=20 > Really nice sounds. Love your guitar playing. >=20 > On Nov 11, 2012, at 12:34 PM, "teddyjam.com" = wrote: >=20 >> I play every Monday in NYC >> top notch NY players reacting spontaneously to my looped songs >>=20 >> https://www.youtube.com/user/TeddyKumpel?feature=3Dmhee >>=20 >> Teddy >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 11 14:38:32 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5FED7183452; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 14:38:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0qBUie27Hdny/ifK4a1yPUfrBclaK804cht6co9DCnM=; b=gMUlcjAtmY7s+cEGZFb/JPbipbVdcQh6uHkYJ5hZDcAix6ESXgqZBqmhflA+Zff5ux 76wssoZVFGwWB/P+afj4/HRl6Vy9qMP1BhWaLI9dNqQ5jecV29E9EF1eG58d6XbBdL/h JAX0FD8YLkdal6DVEK8AoprADeeEz2dZUwLOit+yDojU8Sz7J0txNeuWP2S957gGfDq5 9bts6n+Y6K9YABGH8bNTlv8dfwZEfJpy/LMVZTfaLb9+gcTWnAEK//XVk2W6sP9Bv+6C 40BLxhhs+yFd0Xpbs5YCVePyb1Aov4RWXDGI/eOeqR6TTvk6ayFZbEUy/RWrH79zmlq2 2UJA== Message-ID: <509FB862.5050303@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 15:38:26 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? References: <509D937C.5090900@googlemail.com> <509E2D51.4070906@googlemail.com> <509E3378.8070003@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <509E3378.8070003@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119166 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 14:38:32 +0000 (UTC) andy butler schrieb: > Instrument makers typically tell you that you should tune above the > resonances for a nicer sound - go figure *. > > ....which instrument? > > andy Ok, I stand corrected insofar as the word "typically" in my sentence isn't the correct choice. I know it from two violin makers and one saxophone maker I know. Rainer ps: I also remember we did this in high frequency circuit design ("high" meaning 20-300GHz) -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 11 14:44:01 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4232518345D; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 14:44:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=9XVF4OegPjQGqb6iC/ZzWZgqgTT0L59ijXz33qiq+Ok=; b=UMTMN/ia2wp70+umYt/46HDPBu+V2ZPcJClhQe9cHT5xaZiST3y2vUx6aScDz0UY8l U3yzL9UG7m6Z6GdyrHDomW8WjzYI3ITH3ajmrfIGmApskkXO41AV5ldPi6d2wAIR4RTY oALp6YQaOdBAWdAXCqPvGFkgZPz9k0TpZ+0zAiKPu03TQUdTHVGbdW6p8byf/3J7L4t5 iJUwiCuyPqUIuSGvelaPIyJJPKek1LzfDhmANKGR0ValleutQJYObUU4HfIYohNk1f2F uDoPBigwAcA6CNKTQeAM18DerjezZk8MRjz7FOyEvByvJCPPMJyAV1rzhNnbdOnh0C9f Gsng== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <509f153d.45e8440a.3a73.ffff8770@mx.google.com> From: Torben Scharling Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 15:43:19 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Solo shows To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0401731319ff0c04ce39378e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119167 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 14:44:01 +0000 (UTC) --f46d0401731319ff0c04ce39378e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Nice, Tyler - I've subscribed :) --f46d0401731319ff0c04ce39378e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Nice, Tyler - I've subscribed :)

--f46d0401731319ff0c04ce39378e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 11 14:45:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28C56183462; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 14:45:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=+ODUADuT3M/Hqvi8NuoUO6gnKF4xosrYZsq2gzkbdvg=; b=ll7JcwmyiLSa5O22W6+hH7FkytXHBdvhepsGnraZrl7M3HkvUf1y6Jyk8v+Qg+jagz t0laQWJy/K/Hpci6AcftwQxWEdNmSmg8OrxK79F1Hk3H15ZrIwOovqXVCubDchu73I4d RkbxfV/s2CC6bg+qqrpAVSoFOae+l2zcZ+5fkiUVEaER5J9NrJlqI+2Az1qbvKk6/Mkd sEng4obLYj3Xdfh0bgoib46rW3/cTRjpLDGdZTEQCVUF8hZLB+lf7RqOVPPKVY3cuopF iMnlZfjuOmmyMdq5o3fEhJpOBDAL0WjgSatHiyH/c0bVevm4tBWdmB51yH0aqtCRk6kK uclQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <509f153d.45e8440a.3a73.ffff8770@mx.google.com> From: Torben Scharling Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 15:44:28 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Solo shows To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9d7171e34668504ce393b03 Resent-Message-ID: <0D_1eC.A._oD.1n7nQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119168 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 14:45:09 +0000 (UTC) --14dae9d7171e34668504ce393b03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sorry, I meant Teddy hehe, Tyler didn't have a link :) --14dae9d7171e34668504ce393b03 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sorry, I meant Teddy hehe, Tyler didn't have a link :)
--14dae9d7171e34668504ce393b03-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 11 14:56:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD8CF18345B; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 14:56:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=GVdvDofbkA1MFzmpC2mcrrsYKXqdWGY95GSzvW9AztI=; b=romZ6s6WBsGzYp9qXH+LLBw6V8jPlNtCNwwsx5o/cKEqQ1Ft5nnuFw6Ru5g5m+pKoL gZNgDBwN4SgGVkSkWx8Y1WnW+kFxPTjIboyZ6lv7CD1k57ram9TcMVoU26upJ8/h443z etGrH2Y/LACV1QN8qUWz27dUCerMbQIExQ3nUA2vF8Iu5lpAaQWvLnK0En3Lq52Y4tcq jEPmf+vt/6CJ73vvI3FlBG+HDfdHr3vmbUcJ6wDqqWDgauF12ySQzL6IR8t+u8eNTvxM Lcd2u8Kdphrji7FOekr6mGnMk49HLVS0PYzIzZzolxZs/6k/WRzE+e9ToXKuU9UI2M4N ShQA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <509FB862.5050303@googlemail.com> References: <509D937C.5090900@googlemail.com> <509E2D51.4070906@googlemail.com> <509E3378.8070003@tiscali.co.uk> <509FB862.5050303@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 15:56:46 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119169 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 14:56:47 +0000 (UTC) Well, I'm not sure this is what Rainer means, but I can tell that in saxophone playing it makes sense to tune a few cents high and actually "play low". The point is that you can have much looser lips and get a better (to my taste) sound that way. You also keep the option to perform vibrato with a pitch amplitude that goes both over and under the nominal pitch (a habit I picked up from playing guitar with the STratocaster vibrato bar set up as "floating"). But in sax playing this "looser lips" approach goes even a bit further as it adds more of timbre tremolo behind the vibrato's pitch oscillations. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > andy butler schrieb: >> >> Instrument makers typically tell you that you should tune above the >> resonances for a nicer sound - go figure *. >> >> ....which instrument? >> >> andy > > Ok, I stand corrected insofar as the word "typically" in my sentence isn't > the correct choice. I know it from two violin makers and one saxophone maker > I know. > > Rainer > > ps: I also remember we did this in high frequency circuit design ("high" > meaning 20-300GHz) > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 11 14:58:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE8A218345D; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 14:58:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=cevs6cjTF7g6hXo36gWetnjOCDqZsrbnXdsFcfcTz7z+iPFmsXrC/Y9VWE0vNDJq; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <509f153d.45e8440a.3a73.ffff8770@mx.google.com> References: <509f153d.45e8440a.3a73.ffff8770@mx.google.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 09:58:14 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Solo shows Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec799aae3512a26c86b626fc5e37142ea648350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119170 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 14:58:21 +0000 (UTC) There is a limitless range of places that you can play solo... I've played museums, galleries, the New York Guitar Festival, nightclubs, coffeeshops, alternative music venues (like "The Stone" here in NY), and I have accompanied dancers, performance artists and even painters in venues like Judson Church (famous for it's support of cutting edge artists), Wesleyan University (CT), various theatres. I even played (en ensemble) at the Bowery Poetry Club with Loopers-delight's own Teddy Kumple..! Having said all of that, I do not perform all that frequently, my work as a recording engineer / producer eats up all of my time, though I miss the experience immensely... -Chuck Zwicky At 7:02 PM -0800 11/10/12, astralmnemonics@gmail.com wrote: >How many of you guys play out solo with your looping? What kinds of >places do you play? Wineries, art spaces? I've gigged a lot in >rock bands through the club scene but have no experience out here on >the sonic fringes of performance art with solo, looping, improvised >performances. -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 11 15:05:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7430D18345C; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 15:05:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer:x-gm-message-state; bh=LsLyKWTsQ4i0ppMQf/mcM2v4JuE2LAUVCmINVvKfphU=; b=HmmYacYie7heapIytAqQq+L56jwdisuYpvKNANLgJtaFUM6sV4o+/gES/J6IQv1QuF 1UnroLYluXttFInMdFNjyS3rBkqnML0ofHF5pDwNQfvbVRlvxjkAeFm5H1Az0n7BQwtQ Fci36Btxvu1t1brFwaCZd70OJHkJktRI1xQ/6F5HIFjUmz+3NT7TVd4K33VNVhl3AuLr FhfANFiYLrwgb7PjALI+Dpv8oYIHeB4y4iNL1Co9b7mjNWSVjeffoH9aZGC4iCm+4e9w H4ISeM7nsD1IrhpPrK6DsXBHFk7kwDHIL5JOwbU12bWu74iotu5N9fHTwRDb6oubnJhT O+vw== From: "teddyjam.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5-676967068 Subject: Re: Solo shows Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 10:05:21 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <509f153d.45e8440a.3a73.ffff8770@mx.google.com> Message-Id: <8AD4F9D8-7640-4BF5-8A32-E203253FF98F@teddyjam.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkTXhZBrlG/A8IfL1Wd/Srp5i4Dt94AId75j2wQNLze3G7HY7Ae6gJpkhBZ4iyf+/MqHhXG Resent-Message-ID: <2xcYyB.A.M-D.067nQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119171 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 15:05:24 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5-676967068 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii thanks!!!!!!!! Teddy On Nov 11, 2012, at 9:44 AM, Torben Scharling wrote: > Sorry, I meant Teddy hehe, Tyler didn't have a link :) --Apple-Mail-5-676967068 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
thanks!!!!!!!!
On Nov 11, 2012, at = 9:44 AM, Torben Scharling wrote:

Sorry, I = meant Teddy hehe, Tyler didn't have a link :)

= --Apple-Mail-5-676967068-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 11 15:06:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4720818345C; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 15:06:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=RGvz19UxKEyPrxoe8X/fuIKlbKw4Orddrcv+ia3GSvY=; b=YcpN0GGCCxCWRRSPZn0K63+ZO9Ne8dUcPMMHV9q81wEoASPfk/ltrG+Do1+2c0PEh/ d5sEhEQvWtzI7v93yF2cgYRhwoIIiiGw/Hk+DvHhl6wPPN/ni7Lnvo82FRigx/6VQe5k XVNcMzUSiDvP0sS4WWxtNW1zu5hEE6W9ua7JkbTqqc2xDWRW9qKuMkmpwuasMxagpxaF ofF03bSlAhTlPVepPApLT20svW8DccxqE5EduOAgLpkHty2fvbhueqeo6nclojpwGhPC iKn7XRca4YXGAmNwzdam13V/24DaBnFw4a1DWZ5JGi/s31X2uJ+VNaKDal8N5eHodgmw y2fQ== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Re: Solo shows From: "teddyjam.com" In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 10:06:11 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <12F5BB84-56E3-473C-B7F4-A3AFAA57ED1D@teddyjam.com> References: <509f153d.45e8440a.3a73.ffff8770@mx.google.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnma3Tqfgfp2Wy+ZT7ELc5HE8t/CtjxiZ7RFdqRCMWP0/easzG96f5okIuGOef2K0CS1W5+ Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119172 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 15:06:13 +0000 (UTC) that was a blast Chuck... we should get together and jam again sometime! Teddy On Nov 11, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > I even played (en ensemble) at the Bowery Poetry Club with = Loopers-delight's own Teddy Kumple..! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 11 15:14:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB85418345E; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 15:14:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=8d6/BBBxcrEOwjvJZgY+lPMLdvfKWAudXLRI9BkUBF4=; b=oj1NUXmBeVe0fBHAg/Bio9hpEPUemB0ASIqTToRMQVhQaZ0rna7ITx14OfGcPBNy4T 2FHY76sWHktfmfF/1vk3D4BkYxakDhNZxlLaRZ93hhm14if/XD9rhzQOfHSmA8q+ACp1 tBczMrSGvMX/dWGRfyf33Uq50pcf+XUThxsUl3LlP3vUjrupSugUjwLZrNjW8SBsloJo ysLL9wNvD5oKXNOwGLrhhk9LGG5ghXvkTgt3kQIC5AadfiMl245hqIbLnpHVZUBzUoFe D4TH/1XboluWwQOuqzGzXSsdlkmkPi8URusCO02+0phmzOlw0jvh5G2HW56Y49AYFTTM XCGA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <509f153d.45e8440a.3a73.ffff8770@mx.google.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 16:14:23 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Solo shows From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119173 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 15:14:24 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > There is a limitless range of places that you can play solo... Owning a good small PA helps. I'm planning on doing more solo concerts (as other income sources tend to diminish with the bad economy) and started this project by getting a sound system that fits into a cab. As for marketing it helps to have a decent "price tag" since that allows you to now and then play for less money without cutting the bransch you are living on. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 11 15:16:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB472183465; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 15:16:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=VAyJjhl56UAKHh5d7ODXI1p62L9qfuoW3uTqzjwTomJ03IZpuW0G20hn06S7mPaI; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <12F5BB84-56E3-473C-B7F4-A3AFAA57ED1D@teddyjam.com> References: <509f153d.45e8440a.3a73.ffff8770@mx.google.com> <12F5BB84-56E3-473C-B7F4-A3AFAA57ED1D@teddyjam.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 10:13:13 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Solo shows Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec796370818038a6e8dea9e395324f2cac81350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119174 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 15:16:10 +0000 (UTC) It sure was...! I'd love to get together again, anything to drag me out of the studio is welcome!!! CZ At 10:06 AM -0500 11/11/12, teddyjam.com wrote: >that was a blast Chuck... we should get together and jam again sometime! > >Teddy > >On Nov 11, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > >> I even played (en ensemble) at the Bowery Poetry Club with >>Loopers-delight's own Teddy Kumple..! -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 11 17:56:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C3057183452; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 17:56:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1352656594; bh=B2Q5m9bSWtliXMjYcaE7poZcvi3xuA82P6c6q8c125Y=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer; b=RR82KYgF9COULwtuUK8M8ikexQlSCcL2nKDBIdhMv7w6jgScX94uniDD2rvTfe/PQSavHkvsiI5JyywmmsRdBf5B86ij/j0iTRJJ+v5merW1au6TDl63SWhF1ZQTA+bmTkrRX/nH0EYjKg+YCz2BCXGeEsAlZgopIvtO7wfPRVI= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 395303.1682.bm@smtp103.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: xAoks9MVM1lJ5ZQFHaAb0z3YfYn.SS114R5hiT25BxHBYnv RZCQLmBultuBT5iZ_diwLRsmRNhqgICfjwEDHsCB6hrmx4BAkUcdHmgwcyId gNO.Z4VCjgbrZyEy2FQdXCrUtsLiLoQCT3_zIavXV6R7_B0jcfUZbaS0ifiD mNOIMw3j9WosbcdFuqjAZa07WkbvFJEfNrCiatwy1a7zbWr.gS1GKialDaSz uB5fi.xw.MLhtdYDQ46SOfa51lB8u5iL16JdcIGYZ.vvdozOwhSLXgpCyOcD 9DkYfDdbZWw9mhJZcyxpdcV2Z93M9ARS4Ek7iO2PYfI7jNjuxKSs1kAz1WOE SJvei7aYWjlshHHlv0LGbU6ljzmWSsbEMNXBCHCaEy7SEfgxgniuKEqQGXjn Ww3CBSplYj.9ZT_8riI812pT.BVVujge93vhsXUmgO4DUNp_fklufxAVJ_DT n7ezrLwQPBeDpyZebvRNMxyTBqJYF8hyValnaDX1u0r2LypiBi9d2qDtxi2S DUzQWJpGVWceJ8z1SSehNo7vvu64mm_6gADueltrPAwWOpVH5qWiL.Rgzcq. qQLAHd3JRt5f0bLUXfEr.3vpLr.XepQZzEtvJCwz53B6QKEcE8rTWaTVikUY DRfV8ZadanXPGUqVgAUW0GTzTkjiY8g-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: ILs26NSswBDuK82.iJb8TCN7cubm0SmUbZYidhSBIQ-- Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Subject: Re: Solo shows From: Laurie Amat In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 09:56:32 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <2F2A82F1-2342-4146-BE9C-2C17B31EF42E@att.net> References: <509f153d.45e8440a.3a73.ffff8770@mx.google.com> <12F5BB84-56E3-473C-B7F4-A3AFAA57ED1D@teddyjam.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119175 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 17:56:35 +0000 (UTC) I've been mostly playing solo, although I've found incredible = opportunities to collaborate within our community, and that's been = fantastic. My music is usually creating more abstract sound worlds, so = perhaps it easily lends itself to solo work. I've played in the US and = overseas in Festivals, Galleries, Clubs, Large venues and small salons. = I've been lucky, as wherever I've played, the PA is already arranged.=20 But when I come to NY next, I'd love to collaborate there! On Nov 11, 2012, at 7:13 AM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > It sure was...! I'd love to get together again, anything to drag me=20= > out of the studio is welcome!!! >=20 > CZ >=20 > At 10:06 AM -0500 11/11/12, teddyjam.com wrote: >> that was a blast Chuck... we should get together and jam again = sometime! >>=20 >> Teddy >>=20 >> On Nov 11, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Charles Zwicky wrote: >>=20 >>> I even played (en ensemble) at the Bowery Poetry Club with=20 >>> Loopers-delight's own Teddy Kumple..! >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > ... > http://www.zmix.net >=20 > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky >=20 > http://albumcredits.com/zmix >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 11 20:42:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A90118345C; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:42:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <509f153d.45e8440a.3a73.ffff8770@mx.google.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Solo shows In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: michael klobuchar X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CF8E643BF93B74_1C0C_FDDE2_webmailstg-m04.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37130-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CF8E643BED54A8-1C0C-451B6@webmailstg-m04.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [151.201.129.215] Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 15:42:43 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1352666564; bh=EVFySv8AEog7TZO5+YviCGw/EyZBDMkEQbf5tNp/bdw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=j4YU8sXRO18LHJRdFOo/1CYHw8BjUYCl1nM7w7pkkw5Kouvgnn+AqkBPIfOYt7G0B ePYUJYFYTVv4yYOahSZ+bD2tG4gMjPYR3MhnNCu5R/R25jMJFtWOQix1nqfB3Is2WS mN6eeXsE9SwROYcZKH6qFdKqxoec5/tKZ3uR0hIU= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:434400224:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338950a00dc363a8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119176 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:42:46 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CF8E643BF93B74_1C0C_FDDE2_webmailstg-m04.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" per sez: Owning a good small PA helps what are you using per?.....i'm going thru that, i got to get rid of my srm= 450s thinking..... i got 3 gigs in the next few weeks at PHIPPS CONSERVATORY and seeing i can'= t find any suckas to schlepp for me i'm using the old FENDER CHAMP/LINE 6 SPIDER combo.....n= ot ideal but it can be a one trip setup......i think i need to sell a bunch of stuff that i= seldom use any more..... a list will be forthcoming..... =20 ----------MB_8CF8E643BF93B74_1C0C_FDDE2_webmailstg-m04.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" per = sez:
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wning a good small PA helps

what are you using per?.....i'm going thru that, i got to get rid of my srm= 450s thinking.....

i got 3 gigs in the next few weeks at PHIPPS CONSERVATORY and seeing i= can't find any suckas

to schlepp for me  i'm using the old FENDER CHAMP/LINE 6 SPIDER c= ombo.....not ideal but it

can be a one trip setup......i think i need to sell a bunch of stuff t= hat i seldom use any more.....

a list will be forthcoming.....
----------MB_8CF8E643BF93B74_1C0C_FDDE2_webmailstg-m04.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 11 21:01:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1EE618345B; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 21:01:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=9WjGE+Pn5ZMG3DU5yNumRbskWJYKu57ijrZg6hRIfBk=; b=vGx4Qf939CVeNISX/kx8rjCddhTLqE7Wd9uUK1uuQIdQmWtgi/bEX4KpHXMDzx24dO LZVdrPx+ZHxNGKqodx326rb8GliLHg/vqz5CYmU3MkTcHHQK8XQuNbWpf0nZ1wv+VHYS UzfSgK9Wbe6BsKHJ/SZnqIzHYYRB8Ghv9ZMTIR6aISDlj747Fq5vhcIW3XMMcoidhUdH oc0YdIq2M5TBxwATXzLkaXZ/0jk4ozw0l6XszdUe/6F6qmldBhXmWV5YDkLDlMyfg9oa 9aYVZHq7ouYsUTXH7gKtMUPwXwP9j4xwWQQtjzrhFBcj0/KiiGGwLUdgYdX3dKPnfRo1 ZyVA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CF8E643BED54A8-1C0C-451B6@webmailstg-m04.sysops.aol.com> References: <509f153d.45e8440a.3a73.ffff8770@mx.google.com> <8CF8E643BED54A8-1C0C-451B6@webmailstg-m04.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 22:01:19 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Solo shows From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119177 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 21:01:20 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 9:42 PM, michael klobuchar wrote: > what are you using per?.... BK Audio GX-15 http://www.bkaudio.se/en/products/systems/galaxius-series-6812145 Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 11 21:33:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E96C18345C; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 21:33:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 677481.15161.bm@omp1045.mail.bf1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1352669602; bh=PkM0UHbkiKEXWm2cJhqSKxmW/sIhVziBm0wf4sluaCo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=plg5BvRa/+e/y4TAZyieWwJYGo5HZVJE5KUVjOshO7Zpk4onjT/q/wDmWpMKfH7IrUej1TpkRDkKb0D1bypVCCLVSS3BPynZF/bvA3pa/Mme45kWLTUnv24IHS5EdnrioHp+OQW1RUi6WJAOKgDkXI5kUB9fij0YIqn6xn1LuoM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=oPaBCLPz12r7I40aywHR8kIqTmm8GtAaBpwFiEaMt1tTZhq5PWts7zz6aF50lxQs1wclOHJk1dL8fyy3tUxgN8e/pkj1a03yFtMLJffoELwGYv7ZEBfXPPSCB8Oo92UHzdrff9B/PZzMbeuJIby0oPieQwO2wwU7i/Peit/spK8=; X-YMail-OSG: 70D0GEcVM1nA3cflfCNd1bfE0iB2aTJHJiVfHvzxjNvhqcc wZfnyC9V84f7vDRiwzYsD1lITBBKzzUTDcqybwZVE0.M9Etvkh15MSq.PUGp HzJfLPP6lcm0CTtBAwLQ6N6mU2Rnq6cWo9QC5CVIOxdvXNIiDUWzxL744WLZ cbBU17yZdO8Rfl2GOrdGUxW.8JjvYSS56yA18X3bX7kJkhTUWXhZyJrdJn9p QBwALq1UCKMma_Dc2l3cAGh8BffdYfmpOYeI6m9SN2uueld6qzuEI0V0x1EC n53UVKppqSc13ys7OkN.jzOnxYo4XV.pEMe.T3hgEFfHLxK0gBE9P7Gxut1I rgoitmpyAN75r4OyiVl4sdxrGQJWbEwv_OIxEDssIIUrKL4FVljhj1ICO_GW 3yIGD1iEuTs0xQ96qfgccqozGCG.OHLtLZHYWzRF_JzzX1irkS8lVBafa8ue ktwLwUScn2RXlibYXHYfJGbw9Zi1sS7SmIoZsdhrwyxt.6GPeCkXEsjkVmiB AjcMUtFwwSFZV2m7m1GhB9MgHG01E.AeaLNDElyqPUBzmR46ZIbAfaAt1n9u nGYzSt0ORuX6BWxqycOtSF5JmX1Wsd8vrd8SV1xlkURoXKJNCIRx6bJDSLBe 8IcEj2W7JasiRkg-- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,V293LCBJIHRoaW5rICJCZWF1dGlmdWwgQ2hyaXN0aW5lIG9uIHRoZSBPY2Nhc2lvbiBvZiBIZXIgQmlydGhkYXkiIGlzIGEgcmVhbGx5IG5pY2UgcGllY2Ugb2Ygb2ZmLXRoZS1jdWZmIGFtYmllbnQgbXVzaWMhICBGdW4gdG8gbGlzdGVuIHRvIDopCgpBbmQgdGhlIHZpZGVvIGlzIGNvb2wgdG9vLCBSaWNrLiBTcGVha2luZyBvZiB3aGljaCAtLSBhbmQgdG90YWxseSBvZmYtdG9waWMgLS0gY2FuIHlvdSBkaXNjbG9zZSB3aGF0ICJjb29sIG5ldyBpUGhvbmUgbW92aWUgYXBwIiB5b3UgdXNlZCBmb3IgdGhhdCABMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.460 Message-ID: <1352669602.31720.YahooMailClassic@web163106.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 13:33:22 -0800 (PST) From: Jim Bjorklun Subject: Re: Re: What Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/samplers/computers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <50981DAB.9060506@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119178 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 21:33:23 +0000 (UTC) Wow, I think "Beautiful Christine on the Occasion of Her Birthday" is a rea= lly nice piece of off-the-cuff ambient music! Fun to listen to :)=0A=0AAnd= the video is cool too, Rick. Speaking of which -- and totally off-topic --= can you disclose what "cool new iPhone movie app" you used for that video?= =0A=0A- Jim=0A=0A=0A--- On Mon, 11/5/12, Rick Walker = wrote:=0A=0A> From: Rick Walker =0A> Subject: Re: Re: = What Looper to use for syncing with other loopers/samplers/computers=0A> To= : "eib halimski" =0A> Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-de= light.com=0A> Date: Monday, November 5, 2012, 2:12 PM=0A> On 11/5/12 1:53 A= M, eib halimski=0A> wrote:=0A> > Hi Rick,=0A> > been awhile old friend :) h= ow's it been?. i hope i can=0A> try those LP1 and LP2 units. the quarter sp= eed sounds=0A> irresistable :)=0A> Yeah, Halim,=A0 I'm getting some wicked = cool effects=0A> using it.=0A> =0A> If you haven't heard this, check out th= is recording (and the=0A> accompanying video I madewith=0A> an iPhone) I ma= de the very first day I had=0A> it.=A0=A0=A0I recorded two 7 minuteimprovs = that=0A> were NOT=0A> synced and then realized that my timing was pretty ac= curate=0A> so I justpanned them hard=0A> left and right and played on a fre= tless Strat with a=0A> Harmonic capo on it at the 12th fret (so that=0A> th= e instrument defaulted to the scalar harp tuning that I=0A> had tuned the i= nstrument to).=0A> =0A> I start utilizing the quarter speed effect about 3/= 4 of the=0A> way through the piece.=0A> =0A> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v= =3Dd3T74R4m7jo&list=3DUU04qO6rN2FCTqc8oMGWVCcQ&index=3D7&feature=3Dplcp=0A>= =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 11 21:41:34 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1930D18345A; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 21:41:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1352670092; bh=5hWMseAiDiQqF7itYeyT61loWQd4Et0lv2gvwirDqIk=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Subject:Date:Message-Id:To:Mime-Version:X-Mailer; b=bXycRKBxyiCl/+hpaQvtzPkv4r1nsheLr07nV6kSQU8Sap+j8u6WMlaJ86Us0jQANOKRLczbYH93Ytvjq3fqIhDokqTvVaH7JyY8Q+qaHLgEiG3PmF7WfsDYS+wI1hD7wcYrlCcWOPsLVBrkAEX2sg7yzvSVeVwXFFuei/WTHOI= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 565176.72187.bm@smtp815.mail.ird.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: kiPSorUVM1lcH8lNcYJKFz6HZeoIqzKExr.lpgW2oCLJ04U FT9e2iuALmBM6302DGF3lPRMg2oUdkSCIywDKo1ntOykRNIDwRlQQu72n5ic OXs82MlMKU7rw1kZ30b2C.LiaFRMsmRj_YZxJKoQp5ULq4oGEOxUF1qZp8gW qpSGdXVuAsJcm2V_nGnRNP2REP.vVa.TBX5nCaugc3O9B3nlmZkJ.7.9wg3w NIBAxmMwW2XWmBANmtpLDizuTXZBzTrwi1HAIre1PzYFucwr2WCqIxHFoOqm fGFTzj9lc3.onlF2vCysR97f.fzh5d12EBcE7ArT8oHnDawe4nOjQdyHinuk 0ZW8ZvMfCNTWbANuDDvOhNvcFtkDlg21xrtBlCKIF7R_Ywxlh21C5gs3yo_L KOfcecQp._HBIjEHrMxHQEMw_7kWLZyDQ3LumkewlhB7S0KR_W6BF32i0ymk jm_7CWJyrhuYJyuV1tpRvg89wn5RBMykHEyCTlWoTgXTQLDd2NAEm9SqnpI5 iVNw9n3XJAVhUdClQX4h5olIkW8foA_Iin8gBGIRJBTHSGhRaTzmNWEhyFqn 3.BAOCoKgQyYiVroq6ZP0KtcTm9stbysXnut5OvBCABT1s7bEv5a3PaegCaR gk0m7TngOqNxMlTRQrZJHHH7t4ej3jPLZLqgGgeRHFf1Ibf_NVic8co6VBn4 ToBZEHWOBsg-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk From: Matt Stevens Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Solo gigs Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 21:41:32 +0000 Message-Id: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119179 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 21:41:33 +0000 (UTC) Opening slots - if you have very little equipment lots of bigish bands = will have you as an "easy support" I've done loads of these = Reasoning,Fish,Agitation Free, Panic Room,Touchstone,Barclay James = Harvest. Easy gigs to get.... Matt Stevens http://www.fierceandthedead.com http://www.mattstevensguitar.com http://www.spencerparkmusic.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 11 21:53:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00254183460; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 21:53:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=trufun.com; s=default; h=To:References:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type; bh=6ifXNt5RwT3zFA8gQYeh/B2mpBrujRkVsISIwu2Yp2Y=; b=LU+6n3XXlVj0Wnkdwg4kNyScuclqVfzhNHWUjE60R0UYzmIuu45GrKpstPl/g9Rntkl/SDlaVtgtqdjWNITuhNtaKUzTstkQ/qvETr1lNHY0UxURcthV1cLXPiVFVPI+; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: Solo gigs From: David Gans In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 13:53:09 -0800 Cc: David Gans Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1ECE44EB-E959-4867-9BA7-6BA1F014975B@trufun.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: vps.gdhour.com: acl_c_relayhosts_text_entry: david@trufun.com|trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119180 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 21:53:11 +0000 (UTC) Yes! I market myself to clubs that way. On Nov 11, 2012, at 1:41 PM, Matt Stevens = wrote: > Opening slots - if you have very little equipment lots of bigish bands = will have you as an "easy support"=20 David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 11 22:14:04 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B56D18345C; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 22:14:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 230385.98744.bm@omp1055.mail.bf1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1352672043; bh=QhJsmsC6wRolbqdZDyl8/k2I2p+U17wqOM1SiPjQxcg=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Nk0oy4TtFiJiS9MbcakKj3tk85Mr9rgqlSNmnMFdv/Tv8DzoWb213yGtDBV9FxbCEax3GbdfBzBGlVU5uJYKPaLKHOlKDnYzBAO2DvmPzZC6iq4YzENDasdBnUapvbq92Gyo8WtoAkZ6Pt0c2io7veXM7DMG+/cwpOSfDYelodc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=lbjV0HRHBCURYjVEYq1hr27JSPZL5oG9Bux4R0rcMLzdEKKJZST+n2waVPgm1n5/niF2NFdSbW7VW1oHoBlSzVuViLB/uPVYchafQG+ws2cUBdhNdg6kWJ7IIE0ni45jVr/PpE7rqqI0yBMSIzz2jsCfRgq+OjK3npM3l4AyC9c=; X-YMail-OSG: nUWDJScVM1kypE3Afgv4HyH4vf2cmERSDl.fuXjS4e2bSma yAXRUn29wVwQBdCefDUzNxKFjwyLtC3UxaRsfJkPCeBBckwpkXS3ArososdA OsesgyBXRG8nMe6lZA0WWN9UGd0AQHoE7XiosnXX1iUzAe88an4WbboEIvnK LywCycyt6X.5TvnDehdYJvJeWS4BEnXQUCsrxkMBnS84p3cXiuMAGkG.cTu8 mXT6HT3Mcm20KAfbWk6FkVc5J09jMJgUyn8nQKboQ6ZY4PbWkQguwM.p9fJU sTH03_G.OXduEg2tH7R4zdwGOcH6hvVY1wkxT93SLVvFiq.jkgxvuONgiXZh IyjR5z0jQM52Ze97qaUr0UaqxnlkdJOuY4POhsS4Zxp6vzxOB4cNPg7J7Llh roNoLBN8kWY1fLHYtt_I4B53wmqHT0enevUlGVmU_5MXRxPPxiBKY1p2Trq9 4p1DomZ74DVwBZDPg4DqGpU_xqJNZuadURXmnbA-- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,V2VsbCwgSSdtIGdldHRpbmcgY2xvc2UgdG8ga25vd2luZyBlbm91Z2ggdG8gbWFrZSBhIHB1cmNoYXNlIG5vdy4uLiAgVGhhbmtzIHNvIG11Y2ggdG8gUmljayBmb3IgZmlsbGluZyBpbiB0aGUgZG90cyB0aHVzIGZhciEKCkEgZmV3IG1vcmUgKGZpbmFsKSBxdWVzdGlvbnMgaXQnZCBiZSBncmVhdCB0byBoYXZlIGFuc3dlcnMgZm9yOgoKMSkgV2hlbiB5b3UgcHJlc3MgIlBsYXkvU3RvcCIgKGFuZCB0aGUgbG9vcCBpcyBwbGF5aW5nKSwgSSBhc3N1bWUgdGhlIGxvb3AgY2Vhc2VzIHJpZ2h0IHdoZW4geW91IGgBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.460 Message-ID: <1352672043.91611.YahooMailClassic@web163102.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 14:14:03 -0800 (PST) From: Jim Bjorklun Subject: Re: Re: Re: Any news on LP2, anyone? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <507804A8.4050209@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119181 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 22:14:04 +0000 (UTC) Well, I'm getting close to knowing enough to make a purchase now... Thanks= so much to Rick for filling in the dots thus far!=0A=0AA few more (final) = questions it'd be great to have answers for:=0A=0A1) When you press "Play/S= top" (and the loop is playing), I assume the loop ceases right when you hit= the footswitch. If this is true, I'm wondering if there's (also) a way for= the loop to play all the way to the end when you press "Stop".=0A=0A2) Whe= n synching a LP2 loop to MIDI clock, how does the loop recording start and = stop work? For example, the Pigtronix Infinity does this:=0A=0A--> Rec =E2= =80=93 Recording starts at the start of the next measure after the switch h= as been pressed.=0A--> Stop =E2=80=93 Stops loop audio at the start of the = next measure after the switch has been pressed.=0A=0AThis strikes me as an = elegant method, and I'm curious if the LP2 also operates like this, or in a= different way.=0A=0A3) If you play a pre-recorded loop from the card, does= MIDI clock also get (re)generated from that, so you can sync other devices= to the LP2?=0A=0A4) It *would* be nice to verify for sure that -- when an = LP2 is synced to MIDI clock -- the MIDI clock can simply pass THRU the LP2 = to other devices.=0A=0AThanks again,=0A=0AJim=0A=0A=0A--- On Fri, 10/12/12,= Rick Walker wrote:=0A=0A> From: Rick Walker =0A> Subject: Re: Re: Re: Any news on LP-2, anyone?=0A> To: "L= OOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" =0A> Date: F= riday, October 12, 2012, 6:53 AM=0A> On 10/11/12 3:36 PM, Jim Bjorklun=0A> = wrote:=0A> > =0A> >=C2=A0 So I'm wondering if the output (sic, LP-2) is=0A>= stereo (like on my RiffBox)?=0A> > =0A> *mono only*,=0A> > =0A> > 2) The U= sage Guide says that "Using the SDHC card for=0A> audio storage results in = a few rules about audio recording=0A> and overdubbing". The most interestin= g of these is that some=0A> SD cards may not be fast enough to read the inc= oming audio.=0A> This begs the question of whether it's possible to not=0A>= record to the SD card (say if you don't want to retrieve=0A> your loop lat= er).=C2=A0 Is there a mode where you simply=0A> record your loop straight i= nto the pedal, which can play the=0A> loop back with 100% reliability?=0A> = > =0A> *The SD is completely reliable and holds up to 8=0A> tracks.=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0These can be imported into a=0A> computer=0A> and effected and = returned to the card to be able to play on=0A> the unit. It ships with a 4 = gig card that has been tested=0A> specifically to work with the unit.=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0You=0A> merely buy that exact same card and you are golden.=0A>= *=0A> > =0A> > 3) Can the MIDI out port also be configured as a=0A> Thru?= =C2=A0 Since I'd always be synching the LP-2 to a drum=0A> machine's MIDI c= lock, I'd like to pass the MIDI clock=0A> through to another effects proces= sor.=0A> > *I don't use a lot of midi in my life so I'm not 100%=0A> of thi= s answer, but it's always been my=0A> > understanding that if you put midi = into a unit and send=0A> it out that you can daisy chain things.=0A> > =0A>= > Am I incorrect here.........Bill Walker would know=0A> because he uses t= he LP-2 to control a lot of his downstream=0A> devices (other loopers, digi= tal delays, other time based=0A> effects. *=0A> > =0A> > 4) What are the di= mensions of the LP-2?=0A> > =0A> *It is just minisculey larger than a DL-4*= =0A> > =0A> > Thanks for any additional info. that can be given on=0A> this= beguiling box!=0A> > =0A> > - Jim=0A> > =0A> > =0A> > --- On *Thu, 10/4/12= , Tim Thompson //*=0A> wrote:=0A> > =0A> > =0A> >=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0From: Tim Thompson =0A> >=C2=A0 =C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Subject: Re: Re: Any news on=0A> LP-2, anyone?=0A> >=C2=A0 = =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> >=C2=A0 =C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Date: Thursday, October 4,=0A> 2012, 12:44 PM=0A> > =0A> > = =0A> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0They've really=0A> been holdin= g up well and they have to work, I"m=0A> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0going to=0A> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0do my entire=0A>= performance=0A> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0with them at=0A> Y= 2K12 in two weeks time=0A> > =0A> > =0A> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0People w= ill also be able to=0A> play with the LP-2 when Rick=0A> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0demonstrates it at the "Touch=0A> the Loopers" event (Oct 18).=0A>= > =0A> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ...Tim...=0A> > =0A> =0A> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 11 22:29:34 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 828F318345B; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 22:29:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1352672973; bh=ckD/plH4w08bcF6LbX3I1Rf3bii67aAjMh/KxhP5T1o=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:X-Mailer:From:X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid:Subject:Date:To; b=nwh0rCID5gYvExogXjlLgRN4nnXHM+J9nI40UUY4qjAOBPJw4hVxb/h3b+jy4ZAD2sQDVH8cPkCRq6epzarTOowr1+M4T6gBOonpllPpv6cyCyLiB4FnvGI+3kRufyoTW5VtPXOLnvpIhwB9pYhelvflh8bo3FRe8ynalYEOOlg= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 124730.82679.bm@smtp102-mob.biz.mail.ird.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: abSSl5gVM1ljAucSp.Nkoj8UboMWudaLIaKmId3sepYyB0C rh2HWQicM39.x.ytKMeGMCSNgCZKHbSNzyIAsEU6XrSQFo_aoe7L6W.SM3wb Tej6pecROu96wkBIGSDkrz96bnlb8ygowfHaKlQSaKSHbukDM_xLxmF2VgeD KRQQsBeMEl1FESf8LRxGbOYcKF0FmzQCLJt7n24fQseE1ANmXQEikIVuJHPf MLfB_YT90mo9THuo.izwhajUNOgGBemtSBOq84cFD1h2BzxN7SkivLepcrrW 2Z98g68IJ7N5VjoM.e8iP2IcOAs7eL2_hTOAQiKZOJM5CJ2uM4UqDiVO8.ox TtPX_qBNz85kIveioIoauEtjYx7HcNgYiHIb8DoiCgYYDkgu5sMKT0uyN0E3 vlJxIappw8zyWNmc- X-Yahoo-SMTP: 7n7qsyGswBCgTbRPvUUz9QEYRfjrM9w1ZUA- References: <1352672043.91611.YahooMailClassic@web163102.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1352672043.91611.YahooMailClassic@web163102.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder: Inbox Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8J2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9B296F19-A1A1-48F9-A97B-1A3AED362760@yahoo.fr> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8J2) From: Antony Hequet X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid: 2_0_0_1_1463320_ADln+FcAARV3UKAjLwd8IEn7m4M Subject: LP1 Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 23:29:25 +0100 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119182 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 22:29:34 +0000 (UTC) Is anyone interested in an LP1? Antony Hequet Poet composer On 11 nov. 2012, at 23:14, Jim Bjorklun wrote: > Well, I'm getting close to knowing enough to make a purchase now... Thank= s so much to Rick for filling in the dots thus far! >=20 > A few more (final) questions it'd be great to have answers for: >=20 > 1) When you press "Play/Stop" (and the loop is playing), I assume the loop= ceases right when you hit the footswitch. If this is true, I'm wondering if= there's (also) a way for the loop to play all the way to the end when you p= ress "Stop". >=20 > 2) When synching a LP2 loop to MIDI clock, how does the loop recording sta= rt and stop work? For example, the Pigtronix Infinity does this: >=20 > --> Rec =E2=80=93 Recording starts at the start of the next measure after t= he switch has been pressed. > --> Stop =E2=80=93 Stops loop audio at the start of the next measure after= the switch has been pressed. >=20 > This strikes me as an elegant method, and I'm curious if the LP2 also oper= ates like this, or in a different way. >=20 > 3) If you play a pre-recorded loop from the card, does MIDI clock also get= (re)generated from that, so you can sync other devices to the LP2? >=20 > 4) It *would* be nice to verify for sure that -- when an LP2 is synced to M= IDI clock -- the MIDI clock can simply pass THRU the LP2 to other devices. >=20 > Thanks again, >=20 > Jim >=20 >=20 > --- On Fri, 10/12/12, Rick Walker wrote: >=20 >> From: Rick Walker >> Subject: Re: Re: Re: Any news on LP-2, anyone? >> To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" >> Date: Friday, October 12, 2012, 6:53 AM >> On 10/11/12 3:36 PM, Jim Bjorklun >> wrote: >>>=20 >>> So I'm wondering if the output (sic, LP-2) is >> stereo (like on my RiffBox)? >>>=20 >> *mono only*, >>>=20 >>> 2) The Usage Guide says that "Using the SDHC card for >> audio storage results in a few rules about audio recording >> and overdubbing". The most interesting of these is that some >> SD cards may not be fast enough to read the incoming audio. >> This begs the question of whether it's possible to not >> record to the SD card (say if you don't want to retrieve >> your loop later). Is there a mode where you simply >> record your loop straight into the pedal, which can play the >> loop back with 100% reliability? >>>=20 >> *The SD is completely reliable and holds up to 8 >> tracks. These can be imported into a >> computer >> and effected and returned to the card to be able to play on >> the unit. It ships with a 4 gig card that has been tested >> specifically to work with the unit. You >> merely buy that exact same card and you are golden. >> * >>>=20 >>> 3) Can the MIDI out port also be configured as a >> Thru? Since I'd always be synching the LP-2 to a drum >> machine's MIDI clock, I'd like to pass the MIDI clock >> through to another effects processor. >>> *I don't use a lot of midi in my life so I'm not 100% >> of this answer, but it's always been my >>> understanding that if you put midi into a unit and send >> it out that you can daisy chain things. >>>=20 >>> Am I incorrect here.........Bill Walker would know >> because he uses the LP-2 to control a lot of his downstream >> devices (other loopers, digital delays, other time based >> effects. * >>>=20 >>> 4) What are the dimensions of the LP-2? >>>=20 >> *It is just minisculey larger than a DL-4* >>>=20 >>> Thanks for any additional info. that can be given on >> this beguiling box! >>>=20 >>> - Jim >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> --- On *Thu, 10/4/12, Tim Thompson //* >> wrote: >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> From: Tim Thompson >>> Subject: Re: Re: Any news on >> LP-2, anyone? >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> Date: Thursday, October 4, >> 2012, 12:44 PM >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> They've really >> been holding up well and they have to work, I"m >>> going to >>> do my entire >> performance >>> with them at >> Y2K12 in two weeks time >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> People will also be able to >> play with the LP-2 when Rick >>> demonstrates it at the "Touch >> the Loopers" event (Oct 18). >>>=20 >>> ...Tim... >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 11 22:33:57 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E54F18345C; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 22:33:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=8o//B4IucHYBKSw6ZzJ5BKvhDmK8HQmI5fv+ogTc58g= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=UncmS/Am0Fgh8c8TZh5eWA==:17 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=3oWWcOigN7OqGnnNTAcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=UncmS/Am0Fgh8c8TZh5eWA==:117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Re: Solo shows From: Ted Killian In-Reply-To: <509f153d.45e8440a.3a73.ffff8770@mx.google.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 14:33:55 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <509f153d.45e8440a.3a73.ffff8770@mx.google.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119183 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 22:33:57 +0000 (UTC) I don't play out as much as I used to - and even then it was not as = often as many "weekend warrior" types (not by long shot). Even so, as I get older and less able to schlepp gear, I am increasingly = less interested in rehearing "tunes" with a bunch of guys whose taste I = don't really share and whose music I don't really believe in. I am through trying to "fit in." I do the odd solo dance/performance space/art gallery show a few times a = year - either as a solo or improvising with a few capable collaborators. Other than playing in my own living room or garage that is is. I don't have the time or stamina for club gigs or fests...and definitely = still have too much gear for spontaneous "open mikes." Life's too short for rehearsals, pandering to unappreciative club = audiences, or playing any other music than what I or my collaborators = can invent/devise right there, in the moment, right now. I always use looping to some degree or another, but do not consider = myself a "looping artist" nor do I market myself that way (even though I = have been looping for 30 years). As I get older too, my tastes have been becoming less and less = mainstream too. I find I would almost rather listen to between-station radio static, = road noise, and the sound of the wind than the stuff that comes out of = most car radios. If I were considered a purveyor of "world music" my music would be the = national musical art form of a country populated by exactly one. And, in my crotchety old age, I am beginning to actually like it that = way. :-) Ted On Nov 10, 2012, at 7:02 PM, astralmnemonics@gmail.com wrote: > How many of you guys play out solo with your looping? What kinds of = places do you play? Wineries, art spaces? I've gigged a lot in rock = bands through the club scene but have no experience out here on the = sonic fringes of performance art with solo, looping, improvised = performances. =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 11 22:56:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB51718345D; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 22:56:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=B+7wg0vfinjXZ4JbiJUgcL6Pzh2ndiaDVQSPDLsYKg4=; b=MrdgV9vDNtJlhyFf9r1+exYbfwC9zIevdYP1qMSbl4q2nIxH2rkD7woZWoamgxKp+U cB1F2jSIp2UbNDQiRxpc9Pct8nCMlz3YRTedG31MO+oy6tPYwUQ7XmXtiK39LTXu/IVn f8Nxh5igk+8F1yLyKTW4fvTfuZ877SGxeJg3q+p4yseZnS9LsdhzsRiOjl7A4toAdNrh xPVQ5uw+813f2XEIdg1UNIJGKYMARQfEjoEK5rfYY32ZBUMNwKqClS9r5qfDfk0AKkmh KF5DwMCAYO5xAhO2oWTNu9PqSrPTr8EPPg4Wg40DOsXIK3e0BIZpJvS/PMfttIqvd8CR Ogcw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <509f153d.45e8440a.3a73.ffff8770@mx.google.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 17:56:02 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Solo shows To: "Looper's Delight" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54a325e328c3e04ce401949 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119184 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 22:56:43 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec54a325e328c3e04ce401949 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Most of my looping performances are solo and I'll play anywhere they'll have me! Concert halls, museums, clubs, people's homes. I have access to a couple of QSC K8s (thanks Steve Lawson) which give me low end to spare for my pitch shifted bass tones. I also loop with most everyone with whom I collaborate, no matter what style, be it bluegrass, rock, classical, etc. The original question of this thread just asked, 'do we loop solo'? so I'm just pinging in to say yes, we do! and you should too. Rock on. --bcaec54a325e328c3e04ce401949 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Most of my looping performances are solo and I'll play anywhere they= 9;ll have me! =A0Concert halls, museums, clubs, people's homes. =A0I ha= ve access to a couple of QSC K8s (thanks Steve Lawson) which give me low en= d to spare for my pitch shifted bass tones. =A0I also loop with most everyo= ne with whom I collaborate, no matter what style, be it bluegrass, rock, cl= assical, etc. =A0The original question of this thread just asked, 'do w= e loop solo'? =A0so I'm just pinging in to say yes, we do! =A0and y= ou should too. =A0Rock on.=A0






--bcaec54a325e328c3e04ce401949-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 11 23:05:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F8D118345C; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 23:05:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=WnysUnOWaohAlxUpyUbgIC4aLHX6rq7+CBpg88x0D+U=; b=mlC/jPdbGm6lU1ctIcq0Ab7jAV1GsBUoocXUjGlBFfAaguOK1eEOce5mn+pdgMhmBw +OQGcFb9qE9FSegokuD71gcGSp1M3Ogh01hsgoy1LTlIRIoD7vXEpX2+POUNp1Gh5CaL OTtCk0DT1uX71XbLjW94qeGzuMtGHjf7z7QyAGCd2kusyTeMU7gkUC4T4i9+DtjTZdqI E4D4pTQl+72H6+xJa2y8sOdZP0vQtjjtAgD0yvBl+FPtDIZfPau45XlS8bC1GtPqmr+K jXbHev2eGDkTesv3XZGyjcRmv3BEveZLoPSDExET3UyA1X99ODKG8/E9lyaO7Zs6ITGp yGdw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <509f153d.45e8440a.3a73.ffff8770@mx.google.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 18:05:50 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Solo shows From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04012171de0e2a04ce403903 Resent-Message-ID: <1__ExD.A.UPB.Q9CoQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119185 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 23:05:52 +0000 (UTC) --f46d04012171de0e2a04ce403903 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Haha Ted, you sound like me these days! Ditto on the radio static, etc too :) I still play but only from home using Ustream or one of the other streaming services. I also sometimes have a gig on internet radio using Shoutcast. I have also done one gig in Second Life that was interesting! I get a better crowd of people who are only there because they want to be and I don't have to lift anything heavier than my axe! Peace out, Jeff shameless live looping plug, this just out culled from my internet radio gigs at electro-music.com : http://alonetone.com/jeffloopzz/playlists/adventures-in-space-and-time On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Ted Killian wrote: > I don't play out as much as I used to - and even then it was not as often > as many "weekend warrior" types (not by long shot). > > > As I get older too, my tastes have been becoming less and less mainstream > too. > > I find I would almost rather listen to between-station radio static, road > noise, and the sound of the wind than the stuff that comes out of most car > radios. > > If I were considered a purveyor of "world music" my music would be the > national musical art form of a country populated by exactly one. > > And, in my crotchety old age, I am beginning to actually like it that way. > > :-) > > Ted > > > > > On Nov 10, 2012, at 7:02 PM, astralmnemonics@gmail.com wrote: > > > How many of you guys play out solo with your looping? What kinds of > places do you play? Wineries, art spaces? I've gigged a lot in rock bands > through the club scene but have no experience out here on the sonic fringes > of performance art with solo, looping, improvised performances. > > --f46d04012171de0e2a04ce403903 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Haha Ted, you sound like me these days! Ditto on the radio static, etc too = :)

I still play but only from home using Ustream or one of the other= streaming services. I also sometimes have a gig on internet radio using Sh= outcast. I have also done one gig in Second Life that was interesting! I ge= t a better crowd of people who are only there because they want to be and I= don't have to lift anything heavier than my axe!

Peace out,

Jeff

shameless live looping plug, this just ou= t culled from my internet radio gigs at electro-music.com : http://alonetone.com/jeffloopzz/playlists= /adventures-in-space-and-time

On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Ted Killian= <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
I don't play out as much as I used to - and even then it was not as oft= en as many "weekend warrior" types (not by long shot).

<snip>
As I get older too, my tastes have been becoming less and less mainstream t= oo.

I find I would almost rather listen to between-station radio static, road n= oise, and the sound of the wind than the stuff that comes out of most car r= adios.

If I were considered a purveyor of "world music" my music would b= e the national musical art form of a country populated by exactly one.

And, in my crotchety old age, I am beginning to actually like it that way.<= br>
:-)

Ted




On Nov 10, 2012, at 7:02 PM, a= stralmnemonics@gmail.com wrote:

> How many of you guys play out solo with your looping? =A0What kinds of= places do you play? =A0Wineries, art spaces? =A0I've gigged a lot in r= ock bands through the club scene but have no experience out here on the son= ic fringes of performance art with solo, looping, improvised performances.<= br>

--f46d04012171de0e2a04ce403903-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 11 23:20:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C54218345E; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 23:20:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 317767.87037.bm@omp1030.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1352676042; bh=Nwg6EUXc4QWhI3nzfYJ9Wa6XGM7qZ1hrmQ24W/dOyGs=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2M4+vmHDRjaP2eM9glNH4pQQOPDNnd6NdNOw3tMDlc6R0Nkyp62AerCDK3S+9ndMZu6iKCGUwEDFBK8WcsEs1pkMWSv4wOd8+M71mn0Uu+7kfeu8LdwySdm5oFYRtMz1x+w6+qj9VIztC6tKuSDXNOlT4t13ZfoFAj/63CxAcso= X-YMail-OSG: xHEGD2oVM1kTe8LxC79pxLE7Of1ONIOfTVRMi2Pj8kQJ3Hj hRFg4AXn_rYZSLDWNTEWt17cvbSgj3pWnSxcJKEJc2yfDpyLFdnqD.gIDH4C c00X3_t05ZJWPBAGms2m0Ncm3STAJklmVx6pv3haszwEcUE6aYac5.db.vnK TwKG3Yf9xKRpGR8J7.rxljtbbAJ89GxyKQF2RvRE7Y4nePf76gi10B8julVM gjdVm4KUp94h8L83eGxZ424KYGFrYOAQ0GbDVyStWln0AJibDu7h73Mhi9fl DlOux7XzOOz.0rEThcm.yvUT8PEnEyp02.9O3Dk.i2GtxB2QDW8eVkIlwWHG ZObY4m9l7Gl_wcqbW25y7bnkgNI_M4S3l2XLikLPuPChkzRcX4OS10KXEOQY uGE6VeY3L32oWnkvNKPW99aE3hZ3yjwgZcl98q.bvQDSCuWPPd6PKzk8buU4 6piIvftMZ3EYGDQKi_7sU9t_ouPdfKq_GmFf04WJVNbtyhhLT2Rd8pa0fWjw kzooWm7ERHK3E1KWHoNAtlVm306aPvGE3jpHKAQHrp7aa9bpQBVXqfSvhVqV 4MYwsbb1IVGfgMaN5GTqe3AMZEbMz15NUhFu.GEcYSngQQkCBbOZpBUpcMmc ZJINb053odyEWjVsZPoNRi8fRGZFd.pXyKh7MjBteC1fSWPffBXrDtCCpnk5 jjhVHH8qyfeeDUg-- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,IkkgZmluZCBJIHdvdWxkIGFsbW9zdCByYXRoZXIgbGlzdGVuIHRvIGJldHdlZW4tc3RhdGlvbiByYWRpbyBzdGF0aWMsIHJvYWQgbm9pc2UsIGFuZCB0aGUgc291bmQgb2YgdGhlIHdpbmQgdGhhbiB0aGUgc3R1ZmYgdGhhdCBjb21lcyBvdXQgb2YgbW9zdCBjYXIgcmFkaW9zLiIKCldPUkRTIFRPIExJVkUgQlksIFRFRCEgCihteSBmaXJzdCBhdHRlbXB0IHRvIHNlbmQgdGhpcyBkaWQgbm90IG1hdGVyaWFsaXplLCBzbyBhbGwgYXBvbG9naWVzIGlmIGl0IHR1cm5zIGludG8gYSBkb3VibGUtcG9zdCA6LTAgKQoBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.460 Message-ID: <1352676041.40029.YahooMailClassic@web84511.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 15:20:41 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Mungenast Subject: Re: Solo shows To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <_amMoD.A.-bB.LLDoQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119186 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 23:20:43 +0000 (UTC) "I find I would almost rather listen to between-station radio static, road noise, and the sound of the wind than the stuff that comes out of most car radios." WORDS TO LIVE BY, TED! (my first attempt to send this did not materialize, so all apologies if it turns into a double-post :-0 ) Tim Mungenast Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 12 00:05:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B98AD183451; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 00:05:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=set3ANRjRCPXVE/jtaJxOKJrtEYPXxXKq56iIP4dO9Y= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=UncmS/Am0Fgh8c8TZh5eWA==:17 a=gwoN9kr310xfi5DZtNgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=UncmS/Am0Fgh8c8TZh5eWA==:117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Re: Solo shows From: Ted Killian In-Reply-To: <1352676041.40029.YahooMailClassic@web84511.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 16:05:11 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <1352676041.40029.YahooMailClassic@web84511.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119187 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 00:05:12 +0000 (UTC) Perhaps it could be my epitaph...my one quotable quote. 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Hey, just wanted to thank all those kind folk that alerted me to loopers that were offered for sale. I bought an RC50 from an excellent member of the board. THX!

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--234730655-849333133-1352680033=:11801-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 12 01:15:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED445183452; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 01:15:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=DBfCukFWUK6gZB//RIoeyHh4TUAbd/5eiKBQnTQUqrw=; b=b+DC1oRUeI4kn5YW8y0GldTGhLIRldyYaEt6mq8vpj5Pz+mWNS9kHGTzU4SVuQ3ylH D2jGRq6CF7TjnZpHN3iBj9Tv1vxz283VsOGw/VHOMYNiBsWOBSIVzFGGdY9sTi85KXeq zxlzbV5h14dm0dfXoWO6ilCVKhixuAocY/7Fuzspg8Moddnu5f61AyRK6S/ehHLPwKvS wJkPTQHKAzO4PYeTY3zMVaCuC6WEOiekWlv9FF7GSSd8pfe0pS4DEkZeZsOl13/ucnJS voJSQXUyB/T5zZ9xxu4dBxfNIUEV2qxkXOkv2lQ+bs5s6CEHJQhjS2WMxwppEDLYmSpn BlAw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1352672043.91611.YahooMailClassic@web163102.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <507804A8.4050209@cruzio.com> <1352672043.91611.YahooMailClassic@web163102.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 17:15:46 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: Re: Any news on LP2, anyone? From: Ben Edwards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b621c588742a704ce420a3f Resent-Message-ID: <8s77KB.A.wlC.E3EoQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119189 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 01:15:48 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b621c588742a704ce420a3f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah mine is working great too and I'm going to use it for an upcoming solo performance at a winery. I've only had it for a month but I feel like the MIDI syncs well (still lots of experimentation left to do), here is a sample of LP2 jams with Ableton Live as the MIDI master : http://soundcloud.com/chapel-peril-us/sets/bass-and-laptop-loop-jams/ I still have a lot of practice to do with regards to using multiple functions together to morph the loop in real time but I think the sync holds together pretty well. I'm not sure of the specifics of how it cuts/quantizes the loop especially if you start doing odd time and glitched out replace morphing but it seems to follow my internal groove. Sometimes if it doesn't feel right I record a new loop and it usually syncs up nicely right away. Once I get my Behringer Virtualizer Pro back from a friend I'll post on how the LP2 syncs up with it. On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Jim Bjorklun wrote: > Well, I'm getting close to knowing enough to make a purchase now... > Thanks so much to Rick for filling in the dots thus far! > > A few more (final) questions it'd be great to have answers for: > > 1) When you press "Play/Stop" (and the loop is playing), I assume the loo= p > ceases right when you hit the footswitch. If this is true, I'm wondering = if > there's (also) a way for the loop to play all the way to the end when you > press "Stop". > > 2) When synching a LP2 loop to MIDI clock, how does the loop recording > start and stop work? For example, the Pigtronix Infinity does this: > > --> Rec =96 Recording starts at the start of the next measure after the > switch has been pressed. > --> Stop =96 Stops loop audio at the start of the next measure after the > switch has been pressed. > > This strikes me as an elegant method, and I'm curious if the LP2 also > operates like this, or in a different way. > > 3) If you play a pre-recorded loop from the card, does MIDI clock also ge= t > (re)generated from that, so you can sync other devices to the LP2? > > 4) It *would* be nice to verify for sure that -- when an LP2 is synced to > MIDI clock -- the MIDI clock can simply pass THRU the LP2 to other device= s. > > Thanks again, > > Jim > > > --- On Fri, 10/12/12, Rick Walker wrote: > > > From: Rick Walker > > Subject: Re: Re: Re: Any news on LP-2, anyone? > > To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" > > Date: Friday, October 12, 2012, 6:53 AM > > On 10/11/12 3:36 PM, Jim Bjorklun > > wrote: > > > > > > So I'm wondering if the output (sic, LP-2) is > > stereo (like on my RiffBox)? > > > > > *mono only*, > > > > > > 2) The Usage Guide says that "Using the SDHC card for > > audio storage results in a few rules about audio recording > > and overdubbing". The most interesting of these is that some > > SD cards may not be fast enough to read the incoming audio. > > This begs the question of whether it's possible to not > > record to the SD card (say if you don't want to retrieve > > your loop later). Is there a mode where you simply > > record your loop straight into the pedal, which can play the > > loop back with 100% reliability? > > > > > *The SD is completely reliable and holds up to 8 > > tracks. These can be imported into a > > computer > > and effected and returned to the card to be able to play on > > the unit. It ships with a 4 gig card that has been tested > > specifically to work with the unit. You > > merely buy that exact same card and you are golden. > > * > > > > > > 3) Can the MIDI out port also be configured as a > > Thru? Since I'd always be synching the LP-2 to a drum > > machine's MIDI clock, I'd like to pass the MIDI clock > > through to another effects processor. > > > *I don't use a lot of midi in my life so I'm not 100% > > of this answer, but it's always been my > > > understanding that if you put midi into a unit and send > > it out that you can daisy chain things. > > > > > > Am I incorrect here.........Bill Walker would know > > because he uses the LP-2 to control a lot of his downstream > > devices (other loopers, digital delays, other time based > > effects. * > > > > > > 4) What are the dimensions of the LP-2? > > > > > *It is just minisculey larger than a DL-4* > > > > > > Thanks for any additional info. that can be given on > > this beguiling box! > > > > > > - Jim > > > > > > > > > --- On *Thu, 10/4/12, Tim Thompson //* > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > From: Tim Thompson > > > Subject: Re: Re: Any news on > > LP-2, anyone? > > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > Date: Thursday, October 4, > > 2012, 12:44 PM > > > > > > > > > They've really > > been holding up well and they have to work, I"m > > > going to > > > do my entire > > performance > > > with them at > > Y2K12 in two weeks time > > > > > > > > > People will also be able to > > play with the LP-2 when Rick > > > demonstrates it at the "Touch > > the Loopers" event (Oct 18). > > > > > > ...Tim... > > > > > > > > > --047d7b621c588742a704ce420a3f Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah mine is working great too and I'm going to use it for an upcoming = solo performance at a winery. I've only had it for a month but I feel l= ike the MIDI syncs well (still lots of experimentation left to do), here is= a sample of LP2 jams with Ableton Live as the MIDI master :

http://soundcloud.com/chapel-peril-us/sets/bass-and-laptop-loop-= jams/

I still have a lot of practice to do with regards to using= multiple functions together to morph the loop in real time but I think the= sync holds together pretty well.=A0 I'm not sure of the specifics of h= ow it cuts/quantizes the loop especially if you start doing odd time and gl= itched out replace morphing but it seems to follow my internal groove.=A0 S= ometimes if it doesn't feel right I record a new loop and it usually sy= ncs up nicely right away.=A0 Once I get my Behringer Virtualizer Pro back f= rom a friend I'll post on how the LP2 syncs up with it.=A0


On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Jim Bjo= rklun <jbjorklun@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well, I'm getting close to knowing enough to make a purchase now... =A0= Thanks so much to Rick for filling in the dots thus far!

A few more (final) questions it'd be great to have answers for:

1) When you press "Play/Stop" (and the loop is playing), I assume= the loop ceases right when you hit the footswitch. If this is true, I'= m wondering if there's (also) a way for the loop to play all the way to= the end when you press "Stop".

2) When synching a LP2 loop to MIDI clock, how does the loop recording star= t and stop work? For example, the Pigtronix Infinity does this:

--> Rec =96 Recording starts at the start of the next measure after the = switch has been pressed.
--> Stop =96 Stops loop audio at the start of the next measure after the= switch has been pressed.

This strikes me as an elegant method, and I'm curious if the LP2 also o= perates like this, or in a different way.

3) If you play a pre-recorded loop from the card, does MIDI clock also get = (re)generated from that, so you can sync other devices to the LP2?

4) It *would* be nice to verify for sure that -- when an LP2 is synced to M= IDI clock -- the MIDI clock can simply pass THRU the LP2 to other devices.<= br>
Thanks again,

Jim


--- On Fri, 10/12/12, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

> From: Rick Walker <looppool@= cruzio.com>
> Subject: Re: Re: Re: Any news on LP-2, anyone?
> To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com><= br> > Date: Friday, October 12, 2012, 6:53 AM
> On 10/11/12 3:36 PM, Jim Bjorklun
> wrote:
> >
> >=A0 So I'm wondering if the output (sic, LP-2) is
> stereo (like on my RiffBox)?
> >
> *mono only*,
> >
> > 2) The Usage Guide says that "Using the SDHC card for
> audio storage results in a few rules about audio recording
> and overdubbing". The most interesting of these is that some
> SD cards may not be fast enough to read the incoming audio.
> This begs the question of whether it's possible to not
> record to the SD card (say if you don't want to retrieve
> your loop later).=A0 Is there a mode where you simply
> record your loop straight into the pedal, which can play the
> loop back with 100% reliability?
> >
> *The SD is completely reliable and holds up to 8
> tracks.=A0=A0=A0These can be imported into a
> computer
> and effected and returned to the card to be able to play on
> the unit. It ships with a 4 gig card that has been tested
> specifically to work with the unit.=A0=A0=A0You
> merely buy that exact same card and you are golden.
> *
> >
> > 3) Can the MIDI out port also be configured as a
> Thru?=A0 Since I'd always be synching the LP-2 to a drum
> machine's MIDI clock, I'd like to pass the MIDI clock
> through to another effects processor.
> > *I don't use a lot of midi in my life so I'm not 100%
> of this answer, but it's always been my
> > understanding that if you put midi into a unit and send
> it out that you can daisy chain things.
> >
> > Am I incorrect here.........Bill Walker would know
> because he uses the LP-2 to control a lot of his downstream
> devices (other loopers, digital delays, other time based
> effects. *
> >
> > 4) What are the dimensions of the LP-2?
> >
> *It is just minisculey larger than a DL-4*
> >
> > Thanks for any additional info. that can be given on
> this beguiling box!
> >
> > - Jim
> >
> >
> > --- On *Thu, 10/4/12, Tim Thompson /<me@timthompson.com>/*
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >=A0 =A0=A0=A0From: Tim Thompson <me@timthompson.com>
> >=A0 =A0=A0=A0Subject: Re: Re: Any news on
> LP-2, anyone?
> >=A0 =A0=A0=A0To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> >=A0 =A0=A0=A0Date: Thursday, October 4,
> 2012, 12:44 PM
> >
> >
> >=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0They've really
> been holding up well and they have to work, I"m
> >=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0going to
> >=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0do my entire
> performance
> >=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0with them at
> Y2K12 in two weeks time
> >
> >
> >=A0 =A0=A0=A0People will also be able to
> play with the LP-2 when Rick
> >=A0 =A0=A0=A0demonstrates it at the "Touch
> the Loopers" event (Oct 18).
> >
> >=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ...Tim...
> >
>
>


--047d7b621c588742a704ce420a3f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 12 04:55:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D99018345E; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 04:55:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=bVxbnNdQfjcIgtPLH3h927NNx08sdeyvPR5i8dqNsE0=; b=x8i2kcQoavM7vEr1siHaR1SpV2pPD7uiNffu7Eg2oZJhVVRiF5Xz+mVRHo6H6vmFJU h3UKK1CttMlqEvOkPfLXvsMqvpFRceDvAyfVp7hStZ2xEKxaRHrUhNhXstNInSt7mSTG lGFm7a6D30D1cu/9R3lZ9b/w0MZ+u0+2VAbdXiRj2BSKRzpqP9zdsEkemnEceNk+/BxZ b+KQ/5vUEVGp7yvyg8nBwV3Tpl/0voW0t2SflE3Cn0yzazisVbJuOafbgXod2UgGMUVM PuzP+swZuhyjVkDgqynype65qb7D9GlwMrhP+fPuAE69lK+ICEAyNC7yFabwosrjWpjJ qbuA== From: Matthias Grob Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-76-726775252 Subject: Pino Daniele with Paradis Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 01:55:29 -0300 Message-Id: <47D7F000-E40E-4C31-AF97-AF8D5C01CA3B@gmail.com> To: Loop List Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: <4GkNqB.A.fQE.IFIoQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119190 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 04:55:37 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-76-726775252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii a rare combination we only found now: Pino Daniele playing a Paradis Avalon and a Paradis LOOP delay: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9qFk_DPN6M&feature=related --Apple-Mail-76-726775252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii a rare combination we only found now:

Pino Daniele playing a Paradis Avalon and a Paradis LOOP delay:

--Apple-Mail-76-726775252-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 12 05:09:02 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C2E4183451; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 05:08:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:subject:from:to:cc:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer; bh=2ta3KkTLVuEz+8B36pgY95GLWqp/CU5SxIXsuty95Gk=; b=mJz69qbtrEZDXdTG+Lm0R5lMVIoCAm2GghScBvD5VVr3NAizRnjsHKc84KHPdOrvAc 9Izy0A5gDVknye2UbEjTChycCnuc+7V9nrVB96vHJ1UDbXcws5CwDAr6E44XK1hmW9Wr EB0RPa2vwzQi0YFS5aswpTCaf/OTr7McOM+xoq0K4r3AkOgRL2S6qVxULUGDqpDZ5xtg 62f4XeG1DQ0ggKVg+fcC5dzn1BEczWp01hwTTdSBigc4SjtHN4PZGIj3lV2RKzuuTJm+ AeyNie5jQcqmzLfSfSqRbiEFrcIpCdBsIP2I25rKolh+5tPZoEDMQeb4U12MRbUZWs3j 9bDw== Message-ID: <50a08468.83ef440a.3a8b.fffffe2a@mx.google.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 21:08:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: Pigtronix Infinity Looper From: "astralmnemonics@gmail.com" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com CC: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Seven Enterprise Gateway (v 2.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119191 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 05:08:59 +0000 (UTC) Anyone tried one yet? Impressions? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 12 06:17:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 74BF818345C; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 06:17:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <3x09@carlsonarts.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 884784.46076.bm@smtp115.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: qi2om1sVM1nKrkG9_rZsMRfh06MAuXN7TY716qurFTPoAFk pVLJyssluaA3WSxh4ocDubb6zLPi4_ibXNzHFC9diTPorVJTtzfSdbx8R10o 5aghkw1WGj7vH3bKH2wdybw6C6xUrtxUsNQi24jhPPKdJ3NTiBuMMJBnPbhk 8NVF9FOKOgA1IrWusZstCd6SoO0j_x7olfiVDhVYP2ZwsmcUESlzxMHSSCPc d4SzhO.RSvswfSSU4xXrZCXljq7qxpiO3ldDrAfzzQtpU1NpfqH53S1KD2Tt EmmKauFJnJN3ZNwBA72jF8FDX9oBq_9pJU.JuL6eeQI00Y0uaWkXxvqCZgPC swvYybWrFKxHrl2BiG8ENQ9055wY6iGBTTUPsA2ioblWyVq8vUoyrkS2hQdF 2jq.sy1Lf65xyR6K1oNY.kGdZIFaJD2Emx0km3tt87KlYuUFQrjA- X-Yahoo-SMTP: D9yazeWswBDL7tdRauhy7AWumUUpVr1iIdv0O0tl6PLXPr1F References: <509f153d.45e8440a.3a73.ffff8770@mx.google.com> In-Reply-To: <509f153d.45e8440a.3a73.ffff8770@mx.google.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <4B9BFBA8-DC14-4629-A067-DE0CE04D1239@carlsonarts.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: TripleOhNine <3x09@carlsonarts.com> Subject: Re: Solo shows Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 22:17:48 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119192 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 06:17:51 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I've done mostly bars and churches myself.=20 For a while, I was carrying all of my equipment with me (macbook, = interface, little midi controller, mic) just in case anyone ever stopped = me on the street and said, "Hey, would you do some of that vocal = looping?" But for some reason that never seemed to happen. =20 Michael 3x09 =20 On Nov 10, 2012, at 7:02 PM, astralmnemonics@gmail.com wrote: > How many of you guys play out solo with your looping? What kinds of = places do you play? Wineries, art spaces? I've gigged a lot in rock = bands through the club scene but have no experience out here on the = sonic fringes of performance art with solo, looping, improvised = performances. =20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 12 06:25:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D7D9183455; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 06:25:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Tristan Zand Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_66C27EEB-ADB8-4CF5-A5C3-CCDB25A1AB86" Message-Id: <48FB9CD3-8074-46ED-8B40-C6963C284085@zzz.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: Solo shows Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 07:25:13 +0100 References: <509f153d.45e8440a.3a73.ffff8770@mx.google.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <509f153d.45e8440a.3a73.ffff8770@mx.google.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119193 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 06:25:20 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_66C27EEB-ADB8-4CF5-A5C3-CCDB25A1AB86 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Because of the complexities of group looping, thought less fun, I always = found it necessary to loop solo. Very good exercise in creativity, and = at the same time loads of space for experimenting new path. I don't know if it's also the case for you girls and guys, but it's in = multifunctional art/cyber/bar spaces that I've loop most and for the = more, often as a resident performer. I confirm it makes quite a = difference with traditional rock or electro gigs. :) Z http://zzz.ch http://loopr.net On 11 nov. 2012, at 04:02, astralmnemonics@gmail.com wrote: > How many of you guys play out solo with your looping? What kinds of = places do you play? Wineries, art spaces? I've gigged a lot in rock = bands through the club scene but have no experience out here on the = sonic fringes of performance art with solo, looping, improvised = performances. =20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_66C27EEB-ADB8-4CF5-A5C3-CCDB25A1AB86 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1

On 11 nov. 2012, at 04:02, astralmnemonics@gmail.com = wrote:

How many of you guys play out solo with your looping? =  What kinds of places do you play?  Wineries, art spaces? =  I've gigged a lot in rock bands through the club scene but have no = experience out here on the sonic fringes of performance art with solo, = looping, improvised performances. =  


= --Apple-Mail=_66C27EEB-ADB8-4CF5-A5C3-CCDB25A1AB86-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 12 08:01:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94D2618345B; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 08:01:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 515600.81537.bm@omp1040.mail.ird.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1352707301; bh=uyEKZ44atdVsfoqZbQHZyhX6fXAtTQEDXVM+uG8eoTQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=44igdh+xH+LMzZBA3No/NUsLjAVWRC4xB6xbAnuL4MftJ6UhxaEmhNpO/ctexHUIFLTUOlEp8IUA4s4RujBCxL7u/JuheNh6BtTbeIliTWzouDFQaPv3uw5wTxGVZ9cvveWXIzyNngjvWChA8dinkrFRCVa84MUYH2hYY1RFDWM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OeJgHJRQdIoQdAWeyjhVvWsxx5YMRCI58wBHGI6Lc6xHpW/nXCbDQh+eeUydz4dXvFM0AF7+j+qFt6uweEoP/hnqexq219V8LxSdZYxNZ8xW5i8IFypFAVJMz0Lmw9srB1mTjJy9H0AsabFlJid1nmw6yl9UJf6JuFoZDq9QTZs=; X-YMail-OSG: XeJFoaUVM1njV.dnPK8hF3U2APKRWBNIkIyqwmqHVD8QY_o EqZB1RCyzEvKQ_nvegRb2Quzx8qSZ59wl3qekb3x8.wWfNcQjoGOrQBJU1Hq P2GE.E4kZEL1rh.9SyqFPT7FXy7TZ2tirRSyztOi3un3XfdaaHnwv2H4zGfP tYLTTH9_5AppfwpkUjHFFOewCgeBcBPbLGbHlomxDVi8uVyRsQJ5oCxHODHi igUaa.kk37mkVa76dd.3bGvpVu9rInVKqOqlyzxanhmGyK9naraTDkEGbPiw PCtyzfigI7d8.aBizTK7BJtcO2p76OUBZy7_02gk6VERDp59yqNhvFkwp7pN SJPJDmY_.5LKb73YxfmYtMZFfMDWbi2VW16fyDvjwoRD5f65jD6ZG9g92zCu 1lrZ7dGKplY8oNrL0gfIHn6ak X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,SSBoYXZlIGRlY2lkZWQgdG8gc2VsbCBteSBMUDEuIEFueW9uZSBpbnRlcmVzdGVkIGJlZm9yZSBJIHB1dCBpdCB1cCBvbiBlYmF5PwoKQW50b255IEhlcXVldApwb2V0IGNvbXBvc2VyATABAQEB X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.460 References: <509f153d.45e8440a.3a73.ffff8770@mx.google.com> <48FB9CD3-8074-46ED-8B40-C6963C284085@zzz.ch> Message-ID: <1352707301.72922.YahooMailNeo@web132203.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 08:01:41 +0000 (GMT) From: Antony Hequet Reply-To: Antony Hequet Subject: LP1 for sale To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: <48FB9CD3-8074-46ED-8B40-C6963C284085@zzz.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-598658673-310395146-1352707301=:72922" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119194 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 08:01:44 +0000 (UTC) ---598658673-310395146-1352707301=:72922 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have decided to sell my LP1. Anyone interested before I put it up on ebay= ?=0A=0AAntony Hequet=0Apoet composer ---598658673-310395146-1352707301=:72922 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have decided to sell my LP1. Anyone interested be= fore I put it up on ebay?

<= div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 19px; font-family: 'Courier Ne= w', courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; = font-style: normal; ">Antony Hequet
poet composer
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I am looking for a foot controller = with comfortable and silent foot switches to use as a complement to my Gord= ius little giant.

Of course the Gordius FCB1010 comes to min= d because of the integration but those switches are OK at best. Was hoping = somebody out there had improved on the actual switches.

I sing so I hate t= o move my feet and put myself off balanace when performing and looping.

i need something accurate, noiseless, low to the ground...

<= div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Courier New', courier, mona= co, monospace, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: norma= l; ">Antony Hequet
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--56451110-1126168392-1352707908=:77163-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 12 08:34:26 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 140BC18345C; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 08:34:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 816391817/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.177.126/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.177.126 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApIBABu0oFBV0rF+/2dsb2JhbAANN8Z8AQEBBDhAEQsYCRYPCQMCAQIBRRwBr2ySdo84gycDm1SNWg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,761,1344207600"; d="scan'208";a="816391817" Message-ID: <50A0B497.9060702@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 08:34:31 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Solo gigs References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119196 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 08:34:25 +0000 (UTC) Matt Stevens wrote: > Opening slots - if you have very little equipment :-) Matt's set up time is about 30s ...and he inspired me to take just the Vox VDL-1 to gigs rather than a big loop rig. (will still use the full setup where needed of course) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 12 08:51:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB02F18345C; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 08:51:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 816394100/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.177.126/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.177.126 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMBABm3oFBV0rF+/2dsb2JhbAANN4YawGIBAQEDASMECwEFQAYLCxoCBRYLAgIJAwIBAgFFHAEWh2qnb3CSCoEijhaCFIETA5tUjVo X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,761,1344207600"; d="scan'208";a="816394100" Message-ID: <50A0B89E.7090000@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 08:51:42 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Any news on LP2, anyone? References: <1352672043.91611.YahooMailClassic@web163102.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1352672043.91611.YahooMailClassic@web163102.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119197 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 08:51:36 +0000 (UTC) Jim Bjorklun wrote: > 2) When synching a LP2 loop to MIDI clock, how does the loop recording start and stop work? For example, the Pigtronix Infinity does this: > > --> Rec – Recording starts at the start of the next measure after the switch has been pressed. > --> Stop – Stops loop audio at the start of the next measure after the switch has been pressed. > > This strikes me as an elegant method, and I'm curious if the LP2 also operates like this, or in a different way. > Rick will fill in the answers, but on this point. That's *not* a good way to do record for midi sync, although it probably seems to be if you haven't actually used sync. To assume that the 'riff' (or whatever) starts at the beginning of the bar is just really strange, perhaps influenced by drum machine programming and some sample based music. A lot of time the musician plays a lead in beat to the start of the bar, and quite often the first beat is accented by placing it slightly forward in time. What's needed is to start to record straight away, but end the recording automatically so that loop length becomes an exact multiple of the bar length. That's how the LP1 works when syncing tracks internally, it's the tried and tested method on any well designed product, so I'd guess that's what the LP2 does. I like the Pigtronix stuff a lot, but they don't have the long history of working with live looping that's needed to really get that right. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 12 10:01:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6BE3F18345A; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 10:01:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2456 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 10:01:06 UTC Message-ID: <50A0BF99.2090802@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 09:21:29 +0000 From: Chrissie Caulfield User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121029 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: Re: silent footpedal References: <507804A8.4050209@cruzio.com> <1352672043.91611.YahooMailClassic@web163102.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1352707908.77163.YahooMailNeo@web132202.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1352707908.77163.YahooMailNeo@web132202.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=AUhbpHVS+xhHrj9wLCYAQoYnFLYUZdbP8UM0GmH2jwk= c=1 sm=0 a=NuySLGOpSMsA:10 a=osC80HIQVLkA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=j0ihmhOx0_F63TTO7ckA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119198 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 10:01:07 +0000 (UTC) On 12/11/12 08:11, Antony Hequet wrote: > I am looking for a foot controller with comfortable and silent foot > switches to use as a complement to my Gordius little giant. > > Of course the Gordius FCB1010 comes to mind because of the integration > but those switches are OK at best. Was hoping somebody out there had > improved on the actual switches. > > I sing so I hate to move my feet and put myself off balanace when > performing and looping. > It's just practice. I do it with a violin where bow angle and pressure is critical :-) -- Chrissie From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 12 10:32:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41D2118345D; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 10:32:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 816412354/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.177.126/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.177.126 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMBACbPoFBV0rF+/2dsb2JhbAANN4YawGMBAQEEIxVAEQsYAgIFFgsCAgkDAgECAUUcAa8tcJIPgSKOFoIUgRMDm1SNWg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,761,1344207600"; d="scan'208";a="816412354" Message-ID: <50A0D034.6090804@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 10:32:20 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: silent footpedal References: <507804A8.4050209@cruzio.com> <1352672043.91611.YahooMailClassic@web163102.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1352707908.77163.YahooMailNeo@web132202.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1352707908.77163.YahooMailNeo@web132202.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119199 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 10:32:15 +0000 (UTC) hi Anthony, as it's possible run no less than 8 external footswitches from the Gordius your best option is to have something custom made. Just enough (carefully selected )switches in a box wired to jacks that can plug into the LG external sockets. andy Antony Hequet wrote: > I am looking for a foot controller with comfortable and silent foot > switches to use as a complement to my Gordius little giant. > > Of course the Gordius FCB1010 comes to mind because of the integration > but those switches are OK at best. Was hoping somebody out there had > improved on the actual switches. > > I sing so I hate to move my feet and put myself off balanace when > performing and looping. > > i need something accurate, noiseless, low to the ground... > > Antony Hequet > poet composer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 12 11:38:04 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5420E18345E; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 11:38:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 140446.98111.bm@omp1035.mail.ird.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1352720281; bh=QvXVqcA3mtN8sDNTjkhBpQi3XF53yIEfQT/AbhRCyHA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EVyj7OVULoyFT/9kVsA3mYXHQB4srTblZrgWRrEs9bP6oLpB1ArxQQH/9si/g8d5jRaxBR+hwnrN9R1nokZsT4OUzqmKocpaHOwRWgHSuAt4aBfdMUYL3OkjhffkCrsWYhXW2jGQQ94VxX7/YTqtkzQkxtc+xWI/P3ZOoL876ys= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2SH2MmoF0D5QV0xkcyGqTyvDKpawVQjZl2Iv2OI9+40CcnKY0aaUvXRtO51vkJVdKLSUmypRf075nnIXmNLHp2j3uPfxBiM0esXwoV3EB8sFFjMKEfD9ZtbqwVhWRTObwgUgyy/MNKMCwrUV4YGQPj17GALh0ZATFTkrTGVDoUk=; X-YMail-OSG: kWCGXMUVM1lNw3CEcV7Sfk5_9aTmXttpdxvud57Viu57dF. 34QC4_8sTTBb88fZKTf6yJoJ9IHd7gEj4r08btLleIqSGbYnc8YkX1w9Iqo3 O2G3vmXctP8O576dSfd75mJFh5W1JhRHhYaBASPm_JL4HGz5AbpT3IECn9Y. 2IiOpFMxngxcPXKqwQxhwQ6UQS6cxXh5uTfq2ogv6jUuzgHs27eIVREV4K3B tC.5L88RRIlH3GEmqfE3pCfvgxuS5mR2o2Zsn088Au_WMeUJVAxSlcZ.UzWC haxaYDyDxuInmRE23CEqclr0MXECvq5nEu4nNQ42lBm27CrHckGp_zv_FCUX nosZAary6cD.WON_L2kY3XTZWSxzq3Sm8682uMSGft25DSvkSnht6dC7nF1a qgkXLKYqG8OFwcr48qokdhSDaNqBp X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,SSBoYXZlIHByYWN0aWNlZCBJIGFtIG5vdCBjb252aW5jZWQuIERvIHlvdSBoYXZlIGEgZ29yZGl1cyBvciBGQ0IxMDEwPwoKCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCiBEZcKgOiBDaHJpc3NpZSBDYXVsZmllbGQgPGNocmlzdGluZS5jYXVsZmllbGRAZ29vZ2xlbWFpbC5jb20.CsOAwqA6IExvb3BlcnMtRGVsaWdodEBsb29wZXJzLWRlbGlnaHQuY29tIApDY8KgOiAiTG9vcGVycy1EZWxpZ2h0QGxvb3BlcnMtZGVsaWdodC5jb20iIDxMb29wZXJzLURlbGlnaHRAbG9vcGVycy1kZWxpZ2h0LmMBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.460 References: <507804A8.4050209@cruzio.com> <1352672043.91611.YahooMailClassic@web163102.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1352707908.77163.YahooMailNeo@web132202.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <50A0BF99.2090802@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <1352720281.90110.YahooMailNeo@web132202.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 11:38:01 +0000 (GMT) From: Antony Hequet Reply-To: Antony Hequet Subject: Re: silent footpedal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <50A0BF99.2090802@googlemail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="56451110-548545773-1352720281=:90110" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119200 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 11:38:03 +0000 (UTC) --56451110-548545773-1352720281=:90110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have practiced I am not convinced. Do you have a gordius or FCB1010?=0A= =0A=0A________________________________=0A De=A0: Chrissie Caulfield =0A=C0=A0: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com= =0ACc=A0: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" =0AEnvoy=E9 le : Lundi 12 novembre 2012 10h21=0AObjet=A0: Re: s= ilent footpedal=0A =0AOn 12/11/12 08:11, Antony Hequet wrote:=0A> I am look= ing for a foot controller with comfortable and silent foot=0A> switches to = use as a complement to my Gordius little giant.=0A>=0A> Of course the Gordi= us FCB1010 comes to mind because of the integration=0A> but those switches = are OK at best. Was hoping somebody out there had=0A> improved on the actua= l switches.=0A>=0A> I sing so I hate to move my feet and put myself off bal= anace when=0A> performing and looping.=0A>=0A=0AIt's just practice. I do it= with a violin where bow angle and pressure =0Ais critical :-)=0A=0A=0A-- = =0AChrissie --56451110-548545773-1352720281=:90110 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have practiced I am not convinced. Do you have a gordi= us or FCB1010?

De=A0: Chrissie Caulfield <christine.caulf= ield@googlemail.com>
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Cc=A0: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com&qu= ot; <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Envoy=E9 le : Lundi 12 novembre 2012 10h21
<= b>Objet=A0: Re: silent footpe= dal

On 12/11/12 08:11, Antony Hequet wrote:
> I am looking for a foo= t controller with comfortable and silent foot
> switches to use as a = complement to my Gordius little giant.
>
> Of course the Gordiu= s FCB1010 comes to mind because of the integration
> but those switch= es are OK at best. Was hoping somebody out there had
> improved on th= e actual switches.
>
> I sing so I hate to move my feet and put= myself off balanace when
> performing and looping.
>

It= 's just practice. I do it with a violin where bow angle and pressure
is= critical :-)


--
Chrissie



--56451110-548545773-1352720281=:90110-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 12 12:28:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5585818345C; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:28:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <50A0EB4D.6030801@virgin.net> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:27:57 +0000 From: Dave Draper Reply-To: dh.draper@virgin.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Researching micro tunings "hands-on" (was: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz?) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-Smarthost01-IP: [82.69.58.35] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119201 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:28:00 +0000 (UTC) On Nov 8th Per Boysen wrote: "Dave Draper wrote: "Mr Bosanquet's 'An Elementary Treatise on Musical Intervals & > Temperament', on openlibrary.org . His cycle of 53 is mentioned in the > Helmholtz book, along with pics of his 53-notes-per-octave organ!! > (Maybe he was a 53-fingered alien?) Thanks, Dave. For sure a resource worth bookmarking! > http://soundcloud.com/davedraper-1/one4harry-exc Nice recording! Lovely fm artifact noise outbursts here and there. So you were in fact playing it by SYSEX?" Thanks Per. Yep, it's sys-ex Jim, but not as we know it! The DX7-II can map a controller to an edit (sys-ex) function, thus making it channel-specific. Then Notator could map a keyboard to the controller...I guess I could recreate this in Bidule easily enough, but my SY99, despite having 16 DX7s (& more) on board, lacks the controller mapping facility. and Mark Francombe wrote: "Fantastic Harry!
This is a DX7 II? Its sounds alot like scanning thru wavetables, like on my Korg MS2000, or the Blacet Miniwave (in my modular synth). That must have been tough with no knobs??" & thanks too Mark. See above for 'no knobs', but...I just unearthed another bit of archeaology - a much simpler busk, just one note/chord with a pulsing voice, & the modulating oscillator(s) 'played' on an expression pedal (& possibly mod wheel too - I don't remember!). Not strictly looping of course, either of these, but I might put some drum'n'bass to this one sometime!!.... http://soundcloud.com/davedraper-1/dervishfiddler I didn't catch up with these posts originally - my email server fails to forward all the attachments to the digest sometimes - but I've also been looking at the Hermode website http://www.hermode.com/ lately, reading about various algorithm models for analysing the key of a piece of music on the fly, in order to adjust the tuning. Not simple. But also full of assumptions about the music, such as the adjustments being "...implemented according to recognized chord structures" and "..the degree of purity here has been reduced somewhat, so that the retuning steps remain inaudible". These kind of statements remind me of the assumptions about note-masking in the development of mp3 encoding, and one wonders "inaudible to whom"?? Of course the whole diatonic system & equal temperament has evolved from the system of 'duodenes', groups of fifths & thirds forming major & minor scales, so the rules for the progression of harmonies (hey, no paralell fifths or octaves guys!) and the twelve notes of the western scale are inextricably bound. The question of how modal music, let alone twelve-tone music, might fare in such dynamic retuning, or whether it requires it, remains a bit of a mystery. And of course when we get to eastern European quarter tones, Indian ragas & the like, all bets are off. Still, why so many culturally distant musics share tonal similarities has always fascinated me. But hollow pipes & stretched strings have the same properties all over the world. Dave Draper From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 12 12:34:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E47F18345C; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:34:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <50A0ECE3.2090701@virgin.net> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:34:43 +0000 From: Dave Draper Reply-To: dh.draper@virgin.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Gigspam - tuesday - East London Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Originating-Smarthost04-IP: [82.69.58.35] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119202 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:34:44 +0000 (UTC) Shameless self-promotion; if you're near West Ham tuesday 13th Nov, you might like to check out: Filter Feeder: invented percussion, live looping Julian Doyle’s electro-accoustic rhythms of electronics, percussion & found sounds + Steve Beresford: live electronics, Pioneer mover, composer, performer on all manner of instruments, electronics & toys + Dave Draper: gtr, signal processing, live sampling & looping Dave Fowler: percussion Live multi-tracked mutant guitar integrates with brilliant drummer’s polyrhythms at Arch 1 members' club Arch 1, Cranberry Lane, West Ham, E16 4BJ 8/8.30pm, £7/£5 entry West Ham tube/Star Lane DLR/Bus 276 or 323 Dave Draper From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 12 12:41:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6291618345E; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:41:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <50A0EED5.7060309@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:43:01 +0000 From: Chrissie Caulfield User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121029 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: silent footpedal References: <507804A8.4050209@cruzio.com> <1352672043.91611.YahooMailClassic@web163102.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1352707908.77163.YahooMailNeo@web132202.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <50A0BF99.2090802@googlemail.com> <1352720281.90110.YahooMailNeo@web132202.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1352720281.90110.YahooMailNeo@web132202.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=AUhbpHVS+xhHrj9wLCYAQoYnFLYUZdbP8UM0GmH2jwk= c=1 sm=0 a=NuySLGOpSMsA:10 a=osC80HIQVLkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=_5SIMygLE2kM7KadT90A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=hfMOuKFDpboA:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119203 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:41:44 +0000 (UTC) I have an FCB1010 and lots of other effects pedals and hardware loopers :-) chrissie On 12/11/12 11:38, Antony Hequet wrote: > I have practiced I am not convinced. Do you have a gordius or FCB1010? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *De :* Chrissie Caulfield > *À :* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Cc :* "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" > > *Envoyé le :* Lundi 12 novembre 2012 10h21 > *Objet :* Re: silent footpedal > > On 12/11/12 08:11, Antony Hequet wrote: > > I am looking for a foot controller with comfortable and silent foot > > switches to use as a complement to my Gordius little giant. > > > > Of course the Gordius FCB1010 comes to mind because of the integration > > but those switches are OK at best. Was hoping somebody out there had > > improved on the actual switches. > > > > I sing so I hate to move my feet and put myself off balanace when > > performing and looping. > > > > It's just practice. I do it with a violin where bow angle and pressure > is critical :-) > > > -- > Chrissie > > > -- Chrissie From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 12 13:33:48 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18C0A18345C; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 13:33:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=e6QfGpGL5C12OtoZDtci/XuTO4uykvm+IDaCCTWZiOk=; b=k0+mh7Mz8kBC2b23nG9I4CKfxCrgKJRKOOHSl1B4fhWTDkhiuUhqQXcyDsg6Pev6vf qbnaeNSsLFKS5gM0QwYVIlSINUkRAxoqMNcaHkzIpszUiz7PB6w4xCMZm7E2jOB8szyL XYdmvPVnUFkO2WeXErQ6PPyO71iFRGoWOvwl7mtRKJ4ekyo3/wj1t0YiFY4unxjTCl9n Xy0iR/81TcjpROiONswD+7lFvOY6+9RCgPr0gmgf11wrSRMmZqqH/UxcRMA08zheRT24 NimnajSB8O9iGk50U9mtNGLgJBkeWDaDCt4Fl8M68xqpvYXEznj8sT7v9UVYiUS2aJ/R aiyA== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Re: silent footpedal From: Matthias Grob In-Reply-To: <1352707908.77163.YahooMailNeo@web132202.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 10:33:43 -0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <0908ACB0-4E27-499C-84E7-1D7858A32CEB@gmail.com> References: <507804A8.4050209@cruzio.com> <1352672043.91611.YahooMailClassic@web163102.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1352707908.77163.YahooMailNeo@web132202.mail.ird.yahoo.com> To: Loop List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119204 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 13:33:48 +0000 (UTC) why did no one say SoftStep ? it has those characteristics is something wrong about it? On 12.11.2012, at 05:11, Antony Hequet wrote: > > i need something accurate, noiseless, low to the ground... > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 12 13:43:29 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D0C518345A; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 13:43:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=uFhw4pnjCTfA5+VuYebIVUmEpixWjZXq/L4qKw3znfs=; b=EZyfIanI0DSJpMQ1liD8sVKoDk9JYK3glzJ1QBgdPjI3UjMh43J5FB8AojGqcsKQyC j4licZFqIEL9m23/jrHi/7ihvdno2nI0pfcv6Ffp4DcUy4LrQimH6z26L4ZKGKw95zgn wmyDtmdquG+qJQcIBascl/C0/fsgvMF8mwGJBgsRXQi8+3bX+36kxhqh0C0axEimC0kH tGwnh+0pXaeer5NGQIfi/WwgSTpSCov0RbmnVgYOHBNGDlJsE7mbir9FvHU0j1QS2Vrs BqxQ96NkxZVlJBOGJjZymBhNwMiZqFoISZpdgq8B+G7uzQyIR49si1zC5SyqwahzQU5y wqRA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <0908ACB0-4E27-499C-84E7-1D7858A32CEB@gmail.com> References: <507804A8.4050209@cruzio.com> <1352672043.91611.YahooMailClassic@web163102.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1352707908.77163.YahooMailNeo@web132202.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <0908ACB0-4E27-499C-84E7-1D7858A32CEB@gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:43:07 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: D1kmDsX-h0P7ugk1fRYktAtBqa4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: silent footpedal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3a7fe27abe5a04ce4c7ce5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119205 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 13:43:29 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b3a7fe27abe5a04ce4c7ce5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Accurate, would not be my word to use about the SoftStep, Too easy to trigger the front row when going for the second row. I sent my one back (after hoping it would be a problem solver for me) Main reason, lack of physical CLICK! I need to be able to "FEEL" for pedals, and I was accidentally triggering SoftStep switches all the time. I guess its gonna be the all round winner for "low to the ground".. It so low, its almost lower than the ground...! Mark On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Matthias Grob wrote: > why did no one say SoftStep ? > it has those characteristics > is something wrong about it? > > On 12.11.2012, at 05:11, Antony Hequet wrote: > > > > i need something accurate, noiseless, low to the ground... > > > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b3a7fe27abe5a04ce4c7ce5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Accurate, would not be my word to use about the SoftStep, Too easy to trigg= er the front row when going for the second row.
I sent my one back (afte= r hoping it would be a problem solver for me)
Main reason, lack of physi= cal CLICK! I need to be able to "FEEL" for pedals, and I was acci= dentally triggering SoftStep switches all the time.

I guess its gonna be the all round winner for "low to the ground&q= uot;.. It so low, its almost lower than the ground...!

Mark

<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Matthias Grob <matilists@gmail.com> wrote:
why did no one say SoftStep ?
it has those characteristics
is something wrong about it?

On 12.11.2012, at 05:11, Antony Hequet wrote:
>
> i need something accurate, noiseless, low to the ground...
>




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--047d7b3a7fe27abe5a04ce4c7ce5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 12 13:53:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EAC7C18345D; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 13:53:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=8pL8szWt1NdSN6pmWTufHT7aTH0nygAQKF0NLxXZapw=; b=rhvQJzVANYuBLNzHZuirXDdb+xvt7+6flcBHTWhl3VCXky5dmohB7FgXCzv+eIgD7+ R3kBaLaAJkMGQaCK291bPeRbVobJ3usjrpVoG9ETmMKVQftMIYz7C072fvar/Moz0EEz HkAS0Fp/jbDHCpSmib4JR44sOyOJUZ5/P8IybD0C7M05nJP1LBobu5ecNxWWhvXzB+ix 2iH97LSGpziIPQGZ1z6PDzwOv1U2VkXA4ZLz1KG8S2M8FXFF7mWuudM+tqHEeq9XH4Y2 apPyGu06QlUCWVUyXtfin3IEX9ylW5m6LjgVLlWh9Jz5B1gERF9UApCrwLrPVv0XIb8L erWw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <507804A8.4050209@cruzio.com> <1352672043.91611.YahooMailClassic@web163102.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1352707908.77163.YahooMailNeo@web132202.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <0908ACB0-4E27-499C-84E7-1D7858A32CEB@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:53:08 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: silent footpedal From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119206 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 13:53:09 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 2:43 PM, mark francombe wrote: > I guess its gonna be the all round winner for "low to the ground".. It so > low, its almost lower than the ground...! ...amazing! Like a hole into the stage floor. There are better ways to break a leg ;-) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 12 14:15:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E207D18345B; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:15:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <50A10496.5060006@virgin.net> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:15:50 +0000 From: Dave Draper Reply-To: dh.draper@virgin.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Solo shows References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-Smarthost03-IP: [82.69.58.35] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119207 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:15:51 +0000 (UTC) On 11/11/2012 22:33, Ted Killian wrote: > > I find I would almost rather listen to between-station radio static, road noise, and the sound of the wind than the stuff that comes out of most car radios. > I hear that :) Dave Draper From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 12 14:27:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1033E18345C; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:27:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <50A10797.2000701@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:28:39 +0000 From: Chrissie Caulfield User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121029 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: silent footpedal References: <507804A8.4050209@cruzio.com> <1352672043.91611.YahooMailClassic@web163102.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1352707908.77163.YahooMailNeo@web132202.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <0908ACB0-4E27-499C-84E7-1D7858A32CEB@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=GaEGOwq9FwezmTggA+b6yC6zDZF2HYaK6RN/tSqdnVA= c=1 sm=0 a=NuySLGOpSMsA:10 a=osC80HIQVLkA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=gB28bEPOAAAA:8 a=1fG7Us7_znlVbznpEUEA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=zMq8AnxmSYkA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Resent-Message-ID: <5syJRC.A.eYC.JdQoQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119208 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:27:21 +0000 (UTC) On 12/11/12 13:53, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 2:43 PM, mark francombe wrote: >> I guess its gonna be the all round winner for "low to the ground".. It so >> low, its almost lower than the ground...! > > ...amazing! Like a hole into the stage floor. There are better ways to > break a leg ;-) > HAHA! I was thinking about getting one but I think I've changed my mind now - it sounds very hard to play in heels :-) Chrissie From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 12 15:16:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A3D418345C; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 15:15:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:15:49 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20121112151549.209240@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20121109201519.119160@gmx.net> Subject: Re: Researching micro tunings "hands-on" (SCALA) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18oNRYOiIIojf9YD0leIssOW47/R3afgLKzqS2cWJ pczadp5qgrKyEFly2NfhqDH6MrLD0Z/R/P1g== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: 8nfTcNgweSEqU8h4kHUh7yd+IGRvbwDu Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119209 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 15:15:59 +0000 (UTC) Hi Ben >>http://www.huygens-fokker.org/scala/ > Yeah the SCALA files will be as important as MIDI someday. People laughed > at MIDI in the 90s and now it is the dominant language of music > theory/technology. It could, indeed. The SCALA files are huge! I think it's a great tool for analyzing "world music" in a universal way. Scala has been definitely underrated imo... best regards Buzap From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 12 15:59:39 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB83E18345A; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 15:59:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=14o/g2PAj9/bhsWzod/48/ZELHX2sFduJwDby8mdC1Y=; b=wv9lY9TEQJxTyt/xeFN8yt7YSxZZec6VHC5qHGPnxoQg1pPBVLhIjoPJC5ZlY7lS4x roOMtsCFpeYornSHWuUIZirZ0SWTX2bM1lqqBoj9ApXs+QjIGts0OQT7RbUNg5ipXfYE Jo9zcM8ZDhjBuDBA2q/mlA/qD/NM2RukI8mDyIorjJ1tA/yu6KAaMR5ak4hPovCF833O gE1D+VnUB6Poivs/W7bNJvwX7cgG/PhkLM/JwDRqxKyu4tsZRIE1/qjJWgwgo1oqCQCc SxopGNCMCtvvcHEf1XW5Hv4xw7NZ30Bbry1CDBCCgSbmmYC/G4NIxDyG5XDasBBm49ER NTnA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 09:59:38 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Pigtronix Infinity Looper From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6dab4577372e404ce4e636f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119210 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 15:59:39 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6dab4577372e404ce4e636f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i have no experience w/ them, info about it is here: http://www.pigtronix.com/products/infinity-looper/ there has been some discussion about it on TheGearPage.net s--- --0016e6dab4577372e404ce4e636f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 i have no experience w/ them,
info about it is here:
http://www.pigtronix.com/products/infinity-looper/

there has been some discussion about it on TheGearPage.net

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--0016e6dab4577372e404ce4e636f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 12 16:05:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B14C718345C; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:05:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=GXMZVGI1/2a+y6KzpkGFcSfHv/hjCV1/ZvkOXd3QRo0=; b=q/szmAsV4WnaU1ZOkZfnhjdDq0eG1vXOOy95PvDp8ve0CoUtmM7lOwyKqekOshMVM1 j7xY2B+8kWd89mglx40b6w04NsBZRqnqHAnhgMKbUAOeRUEHfFawftrjNoi4mMmN/1Rl ylNr4+1Gw+FRnLEeAiBzJ3ZN6JOeYF/d5A89ow/ozDp/Guj3Togx9WKyeBZDaPs7SIst CK3wo57JDp7JGZuKtqzKz29/soBS00qAyA3p8X62GMljyxwxU+dh684jI5+vEhSLXD78 nX1vJory/T9ZSdwAP8m/Z5jqTQlxSbvSU+EosrCSXylxPScU0Ga27VdXR3tZgO/I5Z5s Efow== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20121112151549.209240@gmx.net> References: <20121109201519.119160@gmx.net> <20121112151549.209240@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:05:39 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Researching micro tunings "hands-on" (SCALA) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb20480feb80704ce4e7894 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119211 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:05:41 +0000 (UTC) --e89a8fb20480feb80704ce4e7894 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 There are many other file formats beside SCALA today. To convert micro tonal tunings between several formats I'm using Max Magic Microtuner: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/16tone/ Not that I know if it's better than the Scala editor, but it serves my needs perfectly well. I typically work out a suitable tuning in Logic (that offers global micro tuning support) and then I export that tuning, via Max Magic Microtuner, to tuning format of whatever third-party instruments I want to use in the production phase. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Hi Ben > > >>http://www.huygens-fokker.org/scala/ > > Yeah the SCALA files will be as important as MIDI someday. People > laughed > > at MIDI in the 90s and now it is the dominant language of music > > theory/technology. > > It could, indeed. The SCALA files are huge! I think it's a great tool for > analyzing "world music" in a universal way. Scala has been definitely > underrated imo... > > best regards > Buzap > > --e89a8fb20480feb80704ce4e7894 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
There are many other file formats beside SCALA today. To convert micro= tonal tunings between several formats I'm using Max Magic Microtuner:= =C2=A0

Not that I know if it's better than the Scala edito= r, but it serves my needs perfectly well. I typically work out a suitable t= uning in Logic (that offers global micro tuning support) and then I export = that tuning, via Max Magic Microtuner, to tuning format of=C2=A0whatever th= ird-party instruments=C2=A0I want to use in the production phase.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.youtube.= com/perboysen



On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Buzap B= uzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote:
Hi Ben

>>= http://www.huygens-fokker.org/scala/
> Yeah the SCALA files will be as important as MIDI someday. =C2=A0Peopl= e laughed
> at MIDI in the 90s and now it is the dominant language of music
> theory/technology.

It could, indeed. The SCALA files are huge! I think it's a great tool f= or analyzing "world music" in a universal way. =C2=A0Scala has be= en definitely underrated imo...

best regards
Buzap


--e89a8fb20480feb80704ce4e7894-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 12 18:10:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 062D218345A; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 18:10:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=+4KvWg1EFUbh9yBqaSe5z3DIwBhn22DkYxSuCq6CDDk=; b=hWJR8lcLLfKtN+AYURTV5AslnH6r94nu6EC4w5+r8zuQdiGChO5/9YKKg3xfMtAPMv icR5KafpO8B1CeqO2ni/HVyt0kYtLqwFaIaeZelgqbqNeTdc0qq0Pp7NISLzTUpHBucF iI8Gw8GyVBV2+47bIob25um78b5pOn+3ipjb2a3qKp95SNlQOhWJ2Y3tVsf+SxH85XF1 /P0NCaW+K/sRvY+ecjNiVMTx+/wyf+96w6l10BDmibJwTMYkxgPQaTn3FHbtzzWTLjyc t7Ttl4ua+IbsSMKSDkMom7nQNmupCTkAix6rU9VBTikiQkyCDTwNncO75pA9vjwfept4 7Tcw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20121109201519.119160@gmx.net> <20121112151549.209240@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 10:10:45 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Researching micro tunings "hands-on" (SCALA) From: Ben Edwards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b603e96639a1104ce5038eb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119212 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 18:10:46 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b603e96639a1104ce5038eb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ok maybe I should rephrase... "digital micro tuning files will be as important as MIDI someday" SCALA might not become the dominant code but it's pointing in the right direction, programming mutation of accepted music theory. That's awesome Per that you can program and tune instruments like that. I need to do more research. On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > There are many other file formats beside SCALA today. To convert micro > tonal tunings between several formats I'm using Max Magic Microtuner: > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/16tone/ > > Not that I know if it's better than the Scala editor, but it serves my > needs perfectly well. I typically work out a suitable tuning in Logic (that > offers global micro tuning support) and then I export that tuning, via Max > Magic Microtuner, to tuning format of whatever third-party instruments I > want to use in the production phase. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > > > On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > >> Hi Ben >> >> >>http://www.huygens-fokker.org/scala/ >> > Yeah the SCALA files will be as important as MIDI someday. People >> laughed >> > at MIDI in the 90s and now it is the dominant language of music >> > theory/technology. >> >> It could, indeed. The SCALA files are huge! I think it's a great tool for >> analyzing "world music" in a universal way. Scala has been definitely >> underrated imo... >> >> best regards >> Buzap >> >> > --047d7b603e96639a1104ce5038eb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ok maybe I should rephrase... "digital micro tuning files will be as i= mportant as MIDI someday"=A0 SCALA might not become the dominant code = but it's pointing in the right direction, programming mutation of accep= ted music theory.=A0 That's awesome Per that you can program and tune i= nstruments like that.=A0 I need to do more research.

On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Per Boysen = <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
There are many other file formats beside SCALA today. To convert micro= tonal tunings between several formats I'm using Max Magic Microtuner:= =A0

Not that I know if it's better than the Scala edito= r, but it serves my needs perfectly well. I typically work out a suitable t= uning in Logic (that offers global micro tuning support) and then I export = that tuning, via Max Magic Microtuner, to tuning format of=A0whatever third= -party instruments=A0I want to use in the production phase.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.youtube.com/perboysen




On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Buzap B= uzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote:
Hi Ben

>>= http://www.huygens-fokker.org/scala/
> Yeah the SCALA files will be as important as MIDI someday. =A0People l= aughed
> at MIDI in the 90s and now it is the dominant language of music
> theory/technology.

It could, indeed. The SCALA files are huge! I think it's a great tool f= or analyzing "world music" in a universal way. =A0Scala has been = definitely underrated imo...

best regards
Buzap



--047d7b603e96639a1104ce5038eb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 12 18:17:09 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EEA43183453; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 18:17:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=hLvps61EVFUgCE6hQ3cZnZxv3M4LkePOAVUidyv9clM=; b=zBoitGSTYO6L7Yx99C3uonj8xPEyCRc/HxPCz+DuqycstQatLChcXatjFTIisv1lzM fCOEou+BNRWzhGaF3JS4y8xOhc/N/tFfqzpZ3QaKs/sN/8UMHjUskyXdSNSkEAMFx8VQ o8vh7+znMiT/F2YBjhtUvMk16X0vdqXau3TNh2WxTATnpXfrt80QE/44VNsVwAXWsUeh ELpscGUwoXOnCkTTdl/Vkaw3WBCBKGNFXwXVaIH0xGyHZAG9OOM9S8oOjjPH6gDXahA6 dNSk4xBvQu3yu0sO5+/wfTw44683J0OZ7zfCnm94MOeM4QZRPhvH9MfYN75RcPcx+hBI 15lA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <50A10797.2000701@googlemail.com> References: <507804A8.4050209@cruzio.com> <1352672043.91611.YahooMailClassic@web163102.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1352707908.77163.YahooMailNeo@web132202.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <0908ACB0-4E27-499C-84E7-1D7858A32CEB@gmail.com> <50A10797.2000701@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 13:17:04 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: silent footpedal From: Sylvain Poitras To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6049ba00409704ce504f70 Resent-Message-ID: <6P0mLB.A.vAF.j0ToQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119213 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 18:17:07 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b6049ba00409704ce504f70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I git my KMI 12 step because it is silent and flashy: http://www.keithmcmillen.com/12step/overview no complaints, very reliable piece of gear. caveat: if you don't like the feel of the sofstep, this is likely not an improvement. Sylvain On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Chrissie Caulfield < christine.caulfield@googlemail.com> wrote: > On 12/11/12 13:53, Per Boysen wrote: > >> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 2:43 PM, mark francombe >> wrote: >> >>> I guess its gonna be the all round winner for "low to the ground".. It so >>> low, its almost lower than the ground...! >>> >> >> ...amazing! Like a hole into the stage floor. There are better ways to >> break a leg ;-) >> >> > > HAHA! I was thinking about getting one but I think I've changed my mind > now - it sounds very hard to play in heels :-) > > Chrissie > > --047d7b6049ba00409704ce504f70 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I git my KMI 12 step because it is silent and flashy:=A0http://www.keithmcmillen.com/12step/o= verview
no complaints, very reliable piece of gear.

<= /div>
caveat: if you don't like the feel of the sofstep, this is likely = not an improvement.

Sylvain


On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 9:28 A= M, Chrissie Caulfield <christine.caulfield@googlemail.com= > wrote:
On 1= 2/11/12 13:53, Per Boysen wrote:
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 2:43 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:<= br>
I guess its gonna be the all round winner for "low to the ground"= .. It so
low, its almost lower than the ground...!

...amazing! Like a hole into the stage floor. There are better ways to
break a leg ;-)



HAHA! I was thinking about getting one but I think I've changed my mind= now - it sounds very hard to play in heels :-)

Chrissie


--047d7b6049ba00409704ce504f70-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 12 19:51:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96D1F183453; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:51:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 850647.63628.bm@omp1026.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1352749882; bh=cVoW4Ka33Uy19hTZ6VhP/Sqhnj3f/bzIoapCtg+YJxQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jqOaew1liA/Q08sTpTB2uLaPQDsZRxFEvTBaZvf3JKFnvxZaFkCmzcwp0GMG8ye0fs3m0mJJluWSi11P8U+gN/vbllvqd48vudWDRvuQsA2DVAzVGM02zExp+keMudTzJj1NxibYbvbKghxvxIsoXUlrSIPHvxXRkvaNwDiE4wg= X-YMail-OSG: fjqaJvQVM1nCrmjNbBL_hO8sbkw5fKYUDIJnKzYiFfX6XGh xeHtJsjEsr4py2ppWhtHmihMz_dgCV.cRDyOL_ijnHbpQ8xDdabAU4uLfONi b0dcopYOz26rOhfXOif6sArXuVkLDKzFWA9MRjOfx33btf6SLOnsM4dOYHoJ xe__mmVlRlOvgF9_RbPu2kV9GoDwRWivwwWm4ihMuxmN1UoKX3T4B17K0K5Y LRfNxBw8XjXU61k1ltYb9PsgvyZ7HwPn_XgpmTkEcWZF06LPX0UUP2PjwXuL DgKPbpNmG_Ifp2O9Y1gZTonta5uiwW.fLZmsyZH0HWxhJVSjzsF4CYIBZzP_ kyKoFNlsqZFOEt4tXoRxTXi3DJ0S_ibnZfLfJSUXn_iTc4yPl_6ywUG2FO3h 0A9TembW8Sa1vtcTUwgYWPV7ANL1D8UNh1nNmHGMSbblFXYsl5oXTpJWo_wT PjLjvHCzyvf51j_3KRsOLA9BwgNmK5BUTzMx4jTl1wFDNUk8W2kyGOmkKsNM LaChRF17SXqw5h2Pt7ZSEF7iBIwlZ_Zb3cosUOja7xPZsfvvhFeil8gQrNv9 hxFXsVnpJpu946w7SXOHYo2Q6gah8jKQk6oflFNvAScwYV_dlCLeXiQmtp54 _Kc1RWlo8jYp2GQcSR_EfHLxJ50fhzRZG2BMtv0fWd38mXlGA2.7yaIA5i_Z cBJErY.wrJWemE.uXOD0Xr3sDkRWi_5kiCL48hRRQbRK.KIZ.X6AtaYNhYkU 3mi4NhIzJa1ksuGtdDeXqlMPYHZox_TxTY6j65WuWV3ir2l5oaus_XBm8JAy rwv6nASmcU6lsHZu6AikH8H8- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,VGhhbmtzIGZvciB0aGUgbGluaywgU2NvdHQuIFdvdywgYWxsIHRob3NlIGZlYXR1cmVzIGFuZCBubyByZXZlcnNlPyBJJ20gc2F2aW5nIG15IG5pY2tlbHMgZm9yIGFuIExQLTIuDQoNClRpbSBNdW5nZW5hc3QNCkVkaXRvci9Xcml0ZXIvUHJvb2ZyZWFkZXI6IHd3dy5saW5rZWRpbi5jb20vaW4vdGltbXVuZ2VuYXN0DQpHdWl0YXJpc3QvQ29tcG9zZXIvVm9jYWxpc3Q6IHd3dy5yZXZlcmJuYXRpb24uY29tL3RpbW11bmdlbmFzdA0KDQotLS0gT24gTW9uLCAxMS8xMi8xMiwgU2NvdHQgSGFuc2VuIDxldmFucGUBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.460 Message-ID: <1352749881.72272.YahooMailClassic@web84513.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 11:51:21 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Mungenast Subject: Re: Pigtronix Infinity Looper To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-873129165-2085900129-1352749881=:72272" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119214 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:51:24 +0000 (UTC) ---873129165-2085900129-1352749881=:72272 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks for the link, Scott. Wow, all those features and no reverse? I'm saving my nickels for an LP-2. Tim Mungenast Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast --- On Mon, 11/12/12, Scott Hansen wrote: From: Scott Hansen Subject: Pigtronix Infinity Looper To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, November 12, 2012, 10:59 AM i have no experience w/ them, info about it is here: http://www.pigtronix.com/products/infinity-looper/ there has been some discussion about it on TheGearPage.net s--- ---873129165-2085900129-1352749881=:72272 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Thanks for the link, Scott. Wow, all those features and no reverse? I'm saving my nickels for an LP-2.

Tim Mungenast
Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast
Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast

--- On Mon, 11/12/12, Scott Hansen <evanpeewee@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Scott Hansen <evanpeewee@gmail.com>
Subject: Pigtronix Infinity Looper
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Monday, November 12, 2012, 10:59 AM

i have no experience w/ them,
info about it is here:
http://www.pigtronix.com/products/infinity-looper/

there has been some discussion about it on TheGearPage.net

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---873129165-2085900129-1352749881=:72272-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 12 20:42:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD5D618345E; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:42:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3526 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:42:17 UTC From: To: References: <509f153d.45e8440a.3a73.ffff8770@mx.google.com> <48FB9CD3-8074-46ED-8B40-C6963C284085@zzz.ch> In-Reply-To: <48FB9CD3-8074-46ED-8B40-C6963C284085@zzz.ch> Subject: RE: Solo shows Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 13:43:28 -0600 Message-ID: <040a01cdc10d$fd2a35f0$f77ea1d0$@michaelplishka.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_040B_01CDC0DB.B290B050" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQHbhEthm91G0x/QTLAQnuNtrkYThQJE7zh6l7jqhEA= Content-Language: en-us x-vipre-scanned: 2481959A00367C248196E7 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: houston.tchmachines.com: authenticated_id: mike@michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: <1BZG8C.A.lcG.p8VoQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119215 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:42:17 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_040B_01CDC0DB.B290B050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm with Tristan with regards to locations (re:multifunctional spaces). Even in more traditional spaces, I'll often include a looped couple of tunes in the repertoire. ~peace~ Mike www.michaelplishka.com www.scribbledmusings.com www.zenstorming.com ------=_NextPart_000_040B_01CDC0DB.B290B050 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I’m with Tristan with regards to locations (re:multifunctional = spaces).  Even in more traditional spaces, I’ll often include = a looped couple of tunes in the repertoire.

 

~peace~

 

Mike

 

 

www.michaelplishka.com

www.scribbledmusings.com

www.zenstorming.com

 

 

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_040B_01CDC0DB.B290B050-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 13 08:29:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90F9618345A; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 08:29:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:organization:user-agent:mime-version :to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=p7NqTejbKmOjZo9MCo/n87NEK9Y4MlEPwd4rALJR2qQ=; b=w3wcetVAKeFLi0cBWDzmPZPRprsIkmlGm5GYWApymgZBx1amHO/7R4f7PFH2XNtus8 RM1A+E4L0q3+CFO6c7zmoIBEWoM6RhvvPmHqLjbf/Z44hNYUq5/LRGuKfhh0VCboF5dH kWNgONj0PGVJK6gcOpFbETeyjFc8S3u7mMh6i2rLNtsAgP7wZK81Y0aDbIE2d0/QKNZV 4nHJc+ApQ7nOSc1piT1AKbn3xh3Ky8KvLzLzeuNgpTwKWx3XsNsaMtIXPXM0tb+Tp2U5 LOh56kRlVKbMG3Ph6MpxCj8i4BAKpEbUkE5CF8midR0iQRFnTQFdHsp0IaA7Wn6wX6Gx ns9A== Message-ID: <50A204DF.30509@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 09:29:19 +0100 From: Adriano Di Giovanni Reply-To: adriano.digiovanni@gmail.com Organization: Adriano Di Giovanni User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Did anybody tried Motu Microbook II? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119216 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 08:29:21 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, I always read, I rarely post. Job time eats out my free one. I'm working hard to play again on a daily basis. By the way, I do not think you're interested in :) I recently sold my discontinued EHX 2880 and I'm going to migrate to Mobius/MainStage setup. I would like to hear from you what about the Motu Microbook II. Anybody tried? Thanks in advance, Adriano From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 13 12:15:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78432183461; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 12:15:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=9uXMyBQFvJvY50KhED4vDpaCTn2ubTNo8uwePz2yFOI=; b=YshfOt1N62Jhj2GQLJQXPhDwm2YTqUAU9oc+xTu/WrRNM66q4bAzxG+/LdHeDlX45m tDh9zDRiNqn/u0Gjdv2bQAKBEer7kS4Xtc/WjrTfmvH00jHag6Q4wHDPm1YXJG84s0lN 1OnkBtsg6ml3FD9m5HFzEmBssW7PPnxEPpmiEKBxH41b/QX/gZgOsWrj1PuU4ENKElwX fHVjy9sLqqhOGsPpHsQnEFUh7YYEEwEaAuRohZTQapkjbBKG4lSxP+Tt1eXuUB+UdAmX ML1VdC694OzeqrghitRLfCMhhhD8+7fzkGBZwzZi8l/8uNoukGTUp/Z/psPAACs8iAiA Gd9A== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Subject: Re: MIDI synch multiple loopers/samplers? From: Philip In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 21:15:05 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5D9D44CA-EDEF-4170-BB1F-52CED7CDAAEA@gmail.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119217 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 12:15:11 +0000 (UTC) I use a mixture of DIN sync and MIDI devices. I not only have trouble = getting the machines to sync together, but also getting loopers to sync = to MIDI. I've tried the Boss RE500, RE300, LP1 etc. I currently use EDPs = beatsynced to a clap out of a drum machine, but I'm hoping to be able to = put the LP1 back into my rack as soon as the new firmware comes out.=20 I'm thinking of taking the plunge and getting the Sync Gen Pro from = Innerclock. It looks like an incredible device that would solve the sync = problems between my old Roland gear and MIDI. I wonder if it would get = the LP1 to sync up.... P= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 13 13:30:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B69D418345C; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 13:30:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=4pPDDgJWVbj/zkvaoXDJ+i42Olv21eqU11onlVdP3OA=; b=BbZC08Z+Mjy6jRIz+qWW86CHy3Ph5oRwmZpNQ+G7PVcBPN4v60q3RD+owjWj8ILNZi 4QhuU1E2373qQA1M6i9ZRUD2ZjHNK2FPDW6l0lz33AqJZAm/ceLyghaL9f2aZ2Qb2Nof ldMnO0Vv5fzjnpze+ztFI9xvfy51y66GhLCqDc0Hi7fQ6CXy28sEq5sqeQgerSRPt8cK MTUx5r4SXYojb75qEEJrx5GlnyHeUS9uJFQcTW6dLbkujEXw951ROX+UoUBAbDp3O/aQ l2G84/UIzWKB5ssicXu4ce5wD6CUutTERmBU4DwrfOj2/l5jwphWp+kfYkCQ4mqkDqP+ IXcw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <5D9D44CA-EDEF-4170-BB1F-52CED7CDAAEA@gmail.com> References: <5D9D44CA-EDEF-4170-BB1F-52CED7CDAAEA@gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 14:30:16 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8tWxeN8jaUl5XdZoU-K0t6nSo_A Message-ID: Subject: Re: MIDI synch multiple loopers/samplers? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6242b65a816604ce606c5e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119218 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 13:30:38 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b6242b65a816604ce606c5e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have no knowledge of the Innerclock, but you might look at what I use to connect Din sync. I have the fantastic M=F6bius sequencer from Future Retro http://www.future-retro.com/mobiusoverview.html Unfortunately out of production, and not currently on EBay.. Its rather large (3U) for a one channel Sequencer, but its the heart of my system. It has Midi In out thru, Din sync Out, and CV, Gate and Clock out. The clock can be inverted for moog or korg style, and as a sequencer its programmable with slides, spaces and holds. (IE better than the usual mess that Knob based sequencers put out. ) I have to admit Im only using the Din out to trigger my Fat Controller Sequencer, (the crappy knob, in this case slider style) but the synch is solid between all. So (when I bother to run such a bastard all together) The Mobius triggers the Fat Controller, both sequencing my Doepfer Modular, the Midi out is split by a merge box, and goes to looper rack (2xEDP and a repeater) and an electribe sampler/drum machine... all works nicely together... I dont know.. if you can find one, might be cheaper to get something that does something other than just clicking. Mark On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Philip wrote: > I use a mixture of DIN sync and MIDI devices. I not only have trouble > getting the machines to sync together, but also getting loopers to sync t= o > MIDI. I've tried the Boss RE500, RE300, LP1 etc. I currently use EDPs > beatsynced to a clap out of a drum machine, but I'm hoping to be able to > put the LP1 back into my rack as soon as the new firmware comes out. > > I'm thinking of taking the plunge and getting the Sync Gen Pro from > Innerclock. It looks like an incredible device that would solve the sync > problems between my old Roland gear and MIDI. I wonder if it would get th= e > LP1 to sync up.... > > P > --=20 *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b6242b65a816604ce606c5e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have no knowledge of the Innerclock, but you might look at what I use to = connect Din sync. I have the fantastic M=F6bius sequencer from Future Retro=
http://www.= future-retro.com/mobiusoverview.html
Unfortunately out of production, and not currently on EBay.. Its rather lar= ge (3U) for a one channel Sequencer, but its the heart of my system. It has= Midi In out thru, Din sync Out, and CV, Gate and Clock out. The clock can = be inverted for moog or korg style, and as a sequencer its programmable wit= h slides, spaces and holds. (IE better than the usual mess that Knob based = sequencers put out. ) I have to admit Im only using the Din out to trigger = my Fat Controller Sequencer, (the crappy knob, in this case slider style) b= ut the synch is solid between all. So (when I bother to run such a bastard = all together)

The Mobius triggers the Fat Controller, both sequencing my Doepfer Modu= lar, the Midi out is split by a merge box, and goes to looper rack (2xEDP a= nd a repeater) and an electribe sampler/drum machine... all works nicely to= gether...

I dont know.. if you can find one, might be cheaper to get something th= at does something other than just clicking.


Mark

On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Philip <philip.ojc@= gmail.com> wrote:
I use a mixture of DIN sync and MIDI devices= . I not only have trouble getting the machines to sync together, but also g= etting loopers to sync to MIDI. I've tried the Boss RE500, RE300, LP1 e= tc. I currently use EDPs beatsynced to a clap out of a drum machine, but I&= #39;m hoping to be able to put the LP1 back into my rack as soon as the new= firmware comes out.

I'm thinking of taking the plunge and getting the Sync Gen Pro from Inn= erclock. It looks like an incredible device that would solve the sync probl= ems between my old Roland gear and MIDI. I wonder if it would get the LP1 t= o sync up....

P



--
= Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
<= /font>
--047d7b6242b65a816604ce606c5e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 13 15:34:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1E0318345E; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 15:34:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_36d114bf-2285-4a41-84b1-40938607c8e7_" X-Originating-IP: [217.92.117.212] From: Sergio Girardi Sender: To: Subject: RE: Any news on LP2, anyone? Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:34:19 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <50A0B89E.7090000@tiscali.co.uk> References: <1352672043.91611.YahooMailClassic@web163102.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>,<50A0B89E.7090000@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Nov 2012 15:34:20.0394 (UTC) FILETIME=[598784A0:01CDC1B4] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119219 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 15:34:21 +0000 (UTC) --_36d114bf-2285-4a41-84b1-40938607c8e7_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Date: Mon=2C 12 Nov 2012 08:51:42 +0000 > From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk > What's needed is to start to record straight away=2C but end the recordin= g automatically > so that loop length becomes an exact multiple of the bar length. Please somebody correct me if I am wrong=2C but one thing I did not like in= the Boomerang III is that the only way to sync loops (internally I mean=2C= as the RangIII lacks any external sync ability) is by using the Sync Play = mode=2C by which there is a Master Loop (and you must start recording that = Loop as first one) and when you want to record another loop the recording d= oes NOT start immediately when you press the button but only the next time = that the Master Loop starts from the beginning. Then when you want to stop = recording also you press the button and it will stop only the next time the= Master Loop reaches its end. Even following their suggestion to record a very short Master Loop=2C I hav= e always found extremely uncomfortable this way of looping and the fact tha= t it was the only way to get loops synced.It was for me a real deal breaker= =2C an "inspiration killer"=2C like a false movement during sex and you....= =2C gone=2C away=2C lost. :) = --_36d114bf-2285-4a41-84b1-40938607c8e7_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>=3B Date: Mon=2C 12 Nov 2012 08:51:42= +0000
>=3B From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk

>=3B Wha= t's needed is to start to record straight away=2C but end the recording aut= omatically
>=3B so that loop length becomes an exact multiple of the b= ar length.


Please somebody correct me if I= am wrong=2C but one thing I did not like in the Boomerang III is that the = only way to sync loops (internally I mean=2C as the RangIII lacks any exter= nal sync ability) is by using the Sync Play mode=2C by which there is a Mas= ter Loop (and you must start recording that Loop as first one) and when you= want to record another loop the recording does NOT start immediately when = you press the button but only the next time that the Master Loop starts fro= m the beginning. =3BThen =3Bwhen you want to stop recording also yo= u press the button and it will stop only the next time the =3BMaster&nb= sp=3BLoop reaches its end.

Even following their su= ggestion to record a very short Master Loop=2C I have always found extremel= y uncomfortable this way of looping and the fact that it was the only way t= o get loops synced.
It was for me a real deal breaker=2C an "insp= iration killer"=2C like a false movement during sex and you....=2C gone=2C = away=2C lost.

:)
= --_36d114bf-2285-4a41-84b1-40938607c8e7_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 13 16:56:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DC0618345E; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:56:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dj1jnS/5bgi8GiNwjpupXcXKHpfKyGiRPQ9h3iLT4Uk=; b=la9h79QGW/4Ec6d34PrPgFnxuel3X3iBNqePMreGFzMejeEK+qp5SiPjb9vxrin/oS D023ANHtq30yOnueKCUmZ7iEcqly8Van1wkXQJTRY1yYEJPL+wSr0zcjr1DCmSw0xqzZ 09is4GO5kGts9kHvQvHZDG2/Fl1mP1JcO5BjYmXfRGfGglgmgN8F2t7N/psyIwazk4Gy FWhEF5WrQUCOQ0lhHqk9Kx5e6ktINDjmAccxghlsd5mONIQUwVtwUsYsgHhMUQwpaz+s yuGbRK4TaZ7fCqjV5Nh2Spii8lYUDNVNhX0va51Y7ZdNm0qU/7Zs0P3bUu7JixpXrddn 41Yg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 10:56:38 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Pigtronix Infinity Looper From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d589e12b71c804ce634dfd Resent-Message-ID: <6TRAzC.A.dxH.HvnoQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119220 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:56:40 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d589e12b71c804ce634dfd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 you know, i thought the same. my other thought is the definition of "looper" needs to be defined. i wish loopers had reverse, and pitch/time options...but that's me. Thanks for the link, Scott. Wow, all those features and no reverse? I'm saving my nickels for an LP-2. Tim Mungenast Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast --- On *Mon, 11/12/12, Scott Hansen * wrote: From: Scott Hansen Subject: Pigtronix Infinity Looper To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, November 12, 2012, 10:59 AM i have no experience w/ them, info about it is here: http://www.pigtronix.com/products/infinity-looper/ there has been some discussion about it on TheGearPage.net s--- --0016e6d589e12b71c804ce634dfd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable you know, i thought the same. my other thought is the definition of "l= ooper" needs to be defined.
i wish loopers had reverse, and pitch/t= ime options...but that's me.



Thanks for the link, Scott.= Wow, all those features and no reverse? I'm saving my nickels for an L= P-2.

Tim Mungenast
Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast
Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast

--- On Mon, 11/12/12, Scott Hansen <evanpeewee@gmail.com>= ; wrote:

From: Scott Hansen <evanpeewee@gmail.com>
Subject: Pigtronix Infinity Loo= per
To: Loopers-Delight@= loopers-delight.com
Date: Monday, November 12, 2012, 10:59 AM
i have no experience w/ them,
info about it is here:
http://www.pigtronix.com/products/infinity-looper/

there has been some discussion about it on TheGearPage.net

s--- --0016e6d589e12b71c804ce634dfd-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 13 18:28:09 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4125183461; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 18:28:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:subject:from:to:cc:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer; bh=wwVX1stt1KcxwKzAZsLesyhjzFoUOhQSgXp8VPhWnGY=; b=aE+kGEMQTcU+VS24Mok7Fi63ISSt6dkwbF+Wq4fE8l/Ax9QFHXtXEUW8bw3TSOXqLq pDPxvX8rC/AYLAGF4jK7uCWJjoZg/g4AjwCqupbF89TXydSKmCz93FFXK9SzqHUcWYu/ RwvJDL7wb/ckTqEFUBr5GZ5QGVWzhMKNw+joR5OXD6k6qBHvNk+REc22sDmZtjMWVDEc 9paAzIPvm/v8Lo8QCjiXmnJjVDHLhqC/UMuQKgXuMfPokD8EppjbxcdaT9Ccs/WQ5epW audb805QntJfutUK4RoDRAVKB0gOR3wWInddsgNTRmKB9v2ePjFHAR9Sbcwak74Vrq6n N62g== Message-ID: <50a28e3d.4b53440a.71c7.ffffe43d@mx.google.com> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 10:15:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: RE: Pigtronix Infinity Looper From: "astralmnemonics@gmail.com" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com CC: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Seven Enterprise Gateway (v 2.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119221 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 18:28:09 +0000 (UTC) Yeah the Gear Page has some nice back and forth discussion on the Infinity. I agree about defining loopers as the Infinity seems to be more song based while the LP2 (which I chose to purchase) has more of the cool real time edit features like half/quarter speed, reverse and replace. -----Original Message----- Date: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:56:44 am To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Scott Hansen" Subject: Pigtronix Infinity Looper you know, i thought the same. my other thought is the definition of "looper" needs to be defined. i wish loopers had reverse, and pitch/time options...but that's me. Thanks for the link, Scott. Wow, all those features and no reverse? I'm saving my nickels for an LP-2. Tim Mungenast Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast --- On *Mon, 11/12/12, Scott Hansen * wrote: From: Scott Hansen Subject: Pigtronix Infinity Looper To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, November 12, 2012, 10:59 AM i have no experience w/ them, info about it is here: http://www.pigtronix.com/products/infinity-looper/ there has been some discussion about it on TheGearPage.net s--- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 13 20:17:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 582C118345E; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:17:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=y/67XteXrJa8ucNtLnBFUmlZ6HF+KScx3xOtzDxOcvI=; b=nkTcBD8vvYuRCEegWfILUCp6QycrRCoy+A4NojYmOfbcTu2CTPHR3chBMwdvs7YRV0 UMQqhDFuS2UuJO0wJgW5IHeLSSffyhK79aOupH/cqgDmOQS9s8zXZF8eQDBkEOxXlYG4 oKDCMcnkmchlzT5RCTj+D43xUz/bJF0ByB/Ol6eWE+KtVKrifDYls/FCcTnQX+MWBEy6 /Hz5iIu2MQrsC4zq3ueBOZ7joVVgIMnLYjktJ9DvrWmSVZDAGw1L0YBC2ZG3qpisRL/e 7PA1B46c6ZD9LGVlLn360keHBo6q2auzuO/KqnWOEGlXHsHHokrV4SZRUBxSHfIDCruk 7Pag== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 14:17:34 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Mooer Twin Looper From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043d66c5c72d3704ce661b1c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119222 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:17:36 +0000 (UTC) --f46d043d66c5c72d3704ce661b1c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 wasn't sure if folks saw this: http://www.effectsdatabase.com/model/mooer/twinlooper supposedly their version of the boss rc20. no idea the price. --f46d043d66c5c72d3704ce661b1c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 wasn't sure if folks saw this:

http://www.effectsdatabase.com/model/mooer/twinlooper

supposedly their version of the boss rc20.
no idea the price.
--f46d043d66c5c72d3704ce661b1c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 13 20:31:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3408183462; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:31:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=wTAclBmjTzoUWWraAGVFTcTaitvD/cilLMJ9+VXZJOw=; b=LGgLJb2BWBDN47fwFzlBd5dZi3SW4pZc+6EIgN3+qrhgbdLfQI8wt7iVl8ZgU0Q5q5 8ZreUL+lvabWPGtDngcZT1755eDQQKtzlpvLXPl2lDaLrOKelJphcEQUEjBPKuygwShx oNDPbSzCFf6yNSHbo8gsgj0kRKRSdMWEBQHedQ5UDNwa+W/H5pR6x3RX6wLnWaaTWjkS XvJhOo3J+6/3raSpcyWglvCW40Hjmt3Di4br56c7hMFS8G6TGTnP2OZGJjeM5XWyIaok 548RkXiFvQKomgyuuvwefyrUOa6XpucQzWgJ1EOwPOCVcrtqCfv9JPFibHjOB+ljRMuO nYPw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 12:31:04 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mooer Twin Looper From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119223 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:31:05 +0000 (UTC) Crazy site. Looks like another Behringer type operation (they even copy some Behringer designs it looks like, not to mention Korg. http://www.mooeraudio.com/en/ProductInfo.asp?id=66 Kevin On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Scott Hansen wrote: > wasn't sure if folks saw this: > > http://www.effectsdatabase.com/model/mooer/twinlooper > > supposedly their version of the boss rc20. > no idea the price. -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 13 23:23:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 75BC8183460; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:23:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 00:23:11 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20121113232311.204760@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20121109201519.119160@gmx.net> <20121112151549.209240@gmx.net> Subject: Re: Researching micro tunings "hands-on" (SCALA) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/25wZyCn32a7kPRuFNc7CppB36jZJ35LvXN+C/Em 8mmj3l8/T3NnE5dr6YWdhnYmgmJxuJ2ogvow== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: CLPQcJgueSEqN8h4kHUhrTR+IGRvb8DI Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119224 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:23:15 +0000 (UTC) > > There are many other file formats beside SCALA today. Sure, been a while... I'm sure there are other tools out there. I was just so impressed with the breadth and depth of scales possible... Like, i.e. expanding (?) scales that are not limited to one octave etc... Just when you think you've "seen it all" - you see you've barely dipped a toe in the vast ocean ;-) Buzap From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 13 23:54:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A3F7183455; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:54:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 00:54:21 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <20121113232311.204760@gmx.net> Message-ID: <20121113235421.204750@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20121109201519.119160@gmx.net> <20121112151549.209240@gmx.net> <20121113232311.204760@gmx.net> Subject: Re: Researching micro tunings "hands-on" (fluid piano) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19u9hVbMO9uArmGCvfqA5F02yhX0Rx6r0rMrLKOpU 1cbs2gfGlomuMuuc6TAN/XwBouuQ6srSSWsg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: +rjQcJ8ueSEqN8h4kHUhwSJ+IGRvb0Cy Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119225 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:54:24 +0000 (UTC) Actually... forget microtonal tuning on midi keyboards - I love this: FLUID PIANO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7Cq3pbcMkI Isn't this great?? Buzap From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 14 00:06:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 23265183460; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 00:06:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_b04a1e92-a922-48b4-b8e2-8e74213b5b43_" X-Originating-IP: [70.29.95.157] From: Jack Cattedra Sender: To: Subject: Granular Synthesis & Microtones Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 00:06:11 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Nov 2012 00:06:12.0132 (UTC) FILETIME=[DB26D640:01CDC1FB] Resent-Message-ID: <_kU5_D.A.knD.0BuoQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119226 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 00:06:13 +0000 (UTC) --_b04a1e92-a922-48b4-b8e2-8e74213b5b43_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey y'all=2C all this talk of micro-tunings & frequencies and I stumbled upon a cool int= erview with Curtis Roads. He talks about his approach to micro-tonal music = and granular synthesis=2C very cool stuff. I must say how much granular syn= thesis has been a dream to a sample-based musician like myself. I'm sure th= ere are a lot of others who feel the same way the subject. With technology = getting more advanced=2C the laws of music are becoming more transparent an= d we no longer have to worry about getting sued for sampling sounds - muaha= hahaa =20 Part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DajdRGF5NHIs Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D_ehu8u_JTjw&feature=3Drelated Part 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dul4y_e3TLyk&feature=3Drelmfu _________________________ jahkohmo http://vimeo.com/jahkohmo https://twitter.com/jahkohmo = --_b04a1e92-a922-48b4-b8e2-8e74213b5b43_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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all this talk of micro-tunings &=3B frequencies and = I stumbled upon a cool interview with Curtis Roads. He talks about his appr= oach to micro-tonal music and granular synthesis=2C very cool stuff. I must= say how much granular synthesis has been a dream to a sample-based musicia= n like myself. I'm sure there are a lot of others who feel the same way the= subject. With technology getting more advanced=2C the laws of music are be= coming more transparent and we no longer have to worry about getting sued f= or sampling sounds - muahahahaa
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Part 3
https://www.yo= utube.com/watch?v=3Dul4y_e3TLyk&=3Bfeature=3Drelmfu




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= --_b04a1e92-a922-48b4-b8e2-8e74213b5b43_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 14 00:23:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE50F18345C; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 00:23:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=nAFxC6W89EqjVQ8jCmJOstSGCiY14+Z/dW0Ml4P37bk=; b=fQ7bjn0+govYkhJdVQD1l3JGYhdSETRpI75soQ8D54zRwcjSkEX1TTSM0XblyDnpnG Wv6jOBRhoIy0r+ftEHk2JWJ5jxra3lfs/KBc4FFVGQgxQvdHKiHePX0b5ibTBb1/Dt2V R2sCi1TvR/xr/n2478zSAypFmtutWbv3yQOg2HB4goXi/RpeHO4HJTJj3eTAs9/qU9Rs 2bH1Kbtjy2uR2zI4AuQ5BAH3VEDMLc8p63xV0C5WCLhZXjJKh/2sxxXvuXA6lkI/Pzb0 2IWTem5dPijN5ULZZ0qp4nWBlGeZDvcon+sDgvAHRs1nQGqaNGVgfmU9m8yDu65RaY0q o5Ig== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20121113235421.204750@gmx.net> References: <20121109201519.119160@gmx.net> <20121112151549.209240@gmx.net> <20121113232311.204760@gmx.net> <20121113235421.204750@gmx.net> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 01:23:53 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Researching micro tunings "hands-on" (fluid piano) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119227 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 00:23:53 +0000 (UTC) Super comfy hands-on micro tuning interface! With that the grand piano becomes just as microtonally versatile as the harp. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 12:54 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Actually... forget microtonal tuning on midi keyboards - I love this: FLUID PIANO > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7Cq3pbcMkI > > Isn't this great?? > Buzap > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 14 00:28:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05322183461; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 00:28:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=pUncf71u/yQ2ftxKyr0qGzIF9zuLz9mxf/WdbDo26yw=; b=hvVivlFsVrjp6nIPhS6BrsKcDz+6QArYxJO7Wtu849C2nO3rIuYgjjpUhkVNUAEDb1 mz9Bx+8Iv+vPcnkWZFCta4ClDelFhxY+9fjT/V6eHRS4n2ckQX8lcMvNgRJFC/Dw4r9T d61gfJwZHKmJC/oLt/QGz0CfI4kVO3LrW5AyrN6Ex6nS7c+4+icsOrifaWcOlripwIgh 3GAqHB05I5ru5qZtq5EgpczO5mbsRh4OweXMGe7D6TaJCz3S22TrH0p1/kdkqGKwW9XK ddm9QTLD5l9SzKHU7Vj7Y0YF23k5CYxcu9wDZD+bDFqWpn9TaLKwJoPBHRPSZJzYX6EP wI6g== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 01:28:50 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Granular Synthesis & Microtones From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119228 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 00:28:50 +0000 (UTC) Exciting and highly inspiring videos, those! :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 1:06 AM, Jack Cattedra wrote: > Hey y'all, > > all this talk of micro-tunings & frequencies and I stumbled upon a cool > interview with Curtis Roads. He talks about his approach to micro-tonal > music and granular synthesis, very cool stuff. I must say how much granular > synthesis has been a dream to a sample-based musician like myself. I'm sure > there are a lot of others who feel the same way the subject. With technology > getting more advanced, the laws of music are becoming more transparent and > we no longer have to worry about getting sued for sampling sounds - > muahahahaa > > > Part 1 > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajdRGF5NHIs > > Part 2 > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ehu8u_JTjw&feature=related > > Part 3 > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul4y_e3TLyk&feature=relmfu > > > > > > _________________________ > jahkohmo > http://vimeo.com/jahkohmo > https://twitter.com/jahkohmo From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 14 01:02:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0250183455; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 01:02:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=M0nX8fjbJLtsDpEzuud8fYfNLn1M2tPep9+XwTPnlNI=; b=VlJCKZhI22dSh+fi/FxNPnP4LCl4Uw5ykIv/BCgSMF4vLX9DZbQtx34FOAXn8SVG4N kxnWEC0AL/r0X5Ewyig0tM8VfB57v/ppPw9UtTw3KeUe9GQmTvT/3xFyhd+r7PFVg8vj QtTAUpqiNnq27b46hS3hWXgMvq2ifIXSFSgt1/Y3UIAom5wPZTQAOyEcRMt2QyMISSVN jckZiROsY+K+fXrgxRKQHvpcXbm/J2rp2n74QXzW7ustdgjb8t62hc8410HLNTUH0IUm 9kZhnfblDOuJBfOvHM2yafZ4wQFZsqZUYvximSguden46QY+NwVeyq2QCAeH4eLSCBDj RONw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:02:22 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Granular Synthesis & Microtones From: Sylvain Poitras To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b621f5452b03404ce6a16e3 Resent-Message-ID: <697DDD.A.nYE.g2uoQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119229 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 01:02:24 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b621f5452b03404ce6a16e3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 His book is excellent: http://books.google.ca/books/about/Microsound.html?id=YxnqcAR7xjkC But very technical... not for folks who dislike equations. Sylvain On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Exciting and highly inspiring videos, those! :-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 1:06 AM, Jack Cattedra wrote: > > Hey y'all, > > > > all this talk of micro-tunings & frequencies and I stumbled upon a cool > > interview with Curtis Roads. He talks about his approach to micro-tonal > > music and granular synthesis, very cool stuff. I must say how much > granular > > synthesis has been a dream to a sample-based musician like myself. I'm > sure > > there are a lot of others who feel the same way the subject. With > technology > > getting more advanced, the laws of music are becoming more transparent > and > > we no longer have to worry about getting sued for sampling sounds - > > muahahahaa > > > > > > Part 1 > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajdRGF5NHIs > > > > Part 2 > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ehu8u_JTjw&feature=related > > > > Part 3 > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul4y_e3TLyk&feature=relmfu > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________ > > jahkohmo > > http://vimeo.com/jahkohmo > > https://twitter.com/jahkohmo > > --047d7b621f5452b03404ce6a16e3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable His book is excellent:http://books.google.ca/books/about/Microsound.h= tml?id=3DYxnqcAR7xjkC
But very technical... =A0not for folks who di= slike equations.
Sylvain


On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Exciting and highly inspiring videos, those!= :-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.y= outube.com/perboysen


On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 1:06 AM, Jack Cattedra <jahkohmo@live.com> wrote:
> Hey y'all,
>
> all this talk of micro-tunings & frequencies and I stumbled upon a= cool
> interview with Curtis Roads. He talks about his approach to micro-tona= l
> music and granular synthesis, very cool stuff. I must say how much gra= nular
> synthesis has been a dream to a sample-based musician like myself. I&#= 39;m sure
> there are a lot of others who feel the same way the subject. With tech= nology
> getting more advanced, the laws of music are becoming more transparent= and
> we no longer have to worry about getting sued for sampling sounds - > muahahahaa
>
>
> Part 1
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DajdRGF5NHIs
>
> Part 2
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D_ehu8u_JTjw= &feature=3Drelated
>
> Part 3
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dul4y_e3TLyk&= amp;feature=3Drelmfu
>
>
>
>
>
> _________________________
> jahkohmo
> http://vimeo.c= om/jahkohmo
> https://twi= tter.com/jahkohmo


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To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <50A0B89E.7090000@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119230 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 03:02:20 +0000 (UTC) Interesting perspective Andy - thanks for mentioning that. My current loope= r is a RiffBox, which also requires a loop to start at the beginning of a b= ar...=0A=0ABut in cases (like you mention) where a loop isn't best initiate= d at the beginning of the 1st bar, a workaround is to start at the middle o= f the loop.=0A=0ASo with 2-bar loop, you'd start at the beginning of bar 2 = and cycle through bar 1 to that point again. Once the looping starts, it g= ives the impression of a seamless loop starting at bar 1.=0A=0AI could see = this workaround/solution also applying for the Pigtronix Infinity.=0A=0A- J= im=0A=0A=0A--- On Mon, 11/12/12, andy butler wrote= :=0A=0A> From: andy butler =0A> Subject: Re: Any ne= ws on LP2, anyone?=0A> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Date: Mo= nday, November 12, 2012, 2:51 AM=0A> Jim Bjorklun wrote:=0A> =0A> > 2) When= synching a LP2 loop to MIDI clock, how does the=0A> loop recording start a= nd stop work? For example, the=0A> Pigtronix Infinity does this:=0A> > =0A>= > --> Rec =E2=80=93 Recording starts at the start of the=0A> next measure = after the switch has been pressed.=0A> > --> Stop =E2=80=93 Stops loop audi= o at the start of the=0A> next measure after the switch has been pressed.= =0A> > =0A> > This strikes me as an elegant method, and I'm curious=0A> if = the LP2 also operates like this, or in a different way.=0A> > =0A> =0A> Ric= k will fill in the answers, but on this point.=0A> =0A> That's *not* a good= way to do record for midi sync,=0A> although it probably seems to be if yo= u haven't actually=0A> used sync.=0A> To assume that the 'riff' (or whateve= r) starts at the=0A> beginning of the bar=0A> is just really strange, perha= ps influenced by drum machine=0A> programming=0A> and some sample based mus= ic. A lot of time the musician=0A> plays a lead in beat to the start=0A> of= the bar, and quite often the first beat is accented by=0A> placing it slig= htly=0A> forward in time.=0A> What's needed is to start to record straight = away, but end=0A> the recording automatically=0A> so that loop length becom= es an exact multiple of the bar=0A> length.=0A> =0A> That's how the LP1 wor= ks when syncing tracks internally,=0A> it's the tried and=0A> tested method= on any well designed product, so I'd guess=0A> that's what the LP2 does.= =0A> =0A> I like the Pigtronix stuff a lot, but they don't have the=0A> lon= g history of working with live looping that's needed to=0A> really get that= right.=0A> =0A> andy=0A> =0A> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 14 05:16:57 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7264183460; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 05:16:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 455 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 05:16:53 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=MS8NF2zwOfGUP9e52XLigZDh0+HuO+qOCpDgSUIm099Aw5RFKxBylqhfmOm3LCJK; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <22772061.1352869758106.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:09:17 -0600 (GMT-06:00) From: Grant Reply-To: Grant To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Any news on LP2, anyone? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 4627597e215714c3ca853a8129e90869f402879cecb40bd59ff02ba43c75b3e8ae48d49a75535542fd450cccb7b22bfa350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.48 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119231 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 05:16:54 +0000 (UTC) >Interesting perspective Andy - thanks for mentioning that. My current looper is a RiffBox, which also requires a loop to start at the beginning of a bar... > >But in cases (like you mention) where a loop isn't best initiated at the beginning of the 1st bar, a workaround is to start at the middle of the loop. > >So with 2-bar loop, you'd start at the beginning of bar 2 and cycle through bar 1 to that point again. Once the looping starts, it gives the impression of a seamless loop starting at bar 1. I'm curious about this: how could you start at some arbitrary point (relative to another playing loop) and expect the looper to know your intentions? I can see how the recording could be started but you would have to remember exactly where you started the second loop and terminate it at exactly the same point to expect the loops to be multiples of one another and play in sync. Or at least be within some quantitization factor. That seems like a more difficult thing to (mentally) keep track of than making a short "synchronization" loop and then let it initiate and terminate subsequent loops, giving you a wider window of control. >I could see this workaround/solution also applying for the Pigtronix Infinity. Can you expand on this? My impression from reading the manual is you set a multiplier for the second loop (number of lengths of the first loop) which creates a new length for the second loop. Maybe your technique will work here too but it seems odd to me to have to figure out how long you want the second loop to be before you start recording (vs letting the length be determined by when you decide to press the button). Anyway, I can see how "multiply" made at least some sense with a single-track looper (even then I have decided it was an unnecessary limitation) but why is it considered to be such a powerful approach with multiple-track loopers? Thanks for any illumination, G From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 14 09:09:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9DCB118345B; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:09:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 926459.66297.bm@omp1007.mail.ird.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1352884189; bh=NznGWCXb2kyM10Rf/s8AJA3+fjPxfWGOlsyQQrIDYLU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dhtOxHq8AGRMIhqYziMTxktk7tRUql6gEvZfIeXA+7VljlooMPWoBzWyupd9n/44WAntm9urgMTa0OGWYvB9fCWa8EeQ5CpppxlLzpjQV2Z7RcEI4LxGRk8wqBYjl93T/w1Ms16eh30ckKT/ZfCQTQYOxX6UhF1mBKoZXCOVSJ4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5bIKu7o52xbURl8ITRkY4SZ5jEhv3ry//fODxLQOMlDixRbslhxtQ9P+XJeey49VFVmbLj9jNtRi/KqURhtRS7/3U3IoTijYXiZiyDsGoOY5ZMp5ebhfe4q37EMa6Nwx7oLQIsG9lR/y+un5prDkLMe7hTOihClSQRiup8tQkjc=; X-YMail-OSG: b3doeykVM1lyw8cvrveov7RZFqsrqiBnYdEUHEAdbtlitGh 2PjWJqHC1gs_XhotDUlhvsk8ZIBix_uNfRrkJITkXv8jlDzDGCI.dkQ2uNau XwZcOsWAAJ1guvDTI68HTvYcpTJPawp.6PbBRqYq8JdfB3wT4h_0yxOVVl2G a71tk4lABvA3MHRbbAeONVcHMhVHsi1aV6lRlFe3SG16KYaUvzG_sJFPg7LQ nf3MX8cJt9_js9ZR0JwnB4p1TzgaLCRTKABkPudyXs0e.dGEuYf92Qvl6dLV T1IS93LGr6ffZ5t__iCMkEP.Tt2mCwjIiamr5sNyx64GZV8sRZdwTvl9pev4 DkQa2LBdfNowwmJdT_t3m00YeEIx3ei8Xz5qzgzOG9zSBEg4GveqeNQz7CRr rVrI8J2_DH0PdmNg2VEej X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,aGVsbG8gTG9vcGllcywKCmRvZXMgYW55b25lIGhhdmUgZXhwZXJpZW5jZSB3aXRoIHRoZSBHIHN5c3RlbSBhcyBhIGxvb3Blcjsgd2hhdCBhcmUgdGhlIGNhcGFiaWxpdGllcy4KCkhvdyBkb2VzIGl0IGZ1bmN0aW9uIGFzIGEgTUlESSBjb250cm9sbGVyPyBBcmUgdGhlIHN3aXRjaGVzIHNpbGVudCBhbmQgc2Vuc2l0aXZlPwoKQW50b255IEhlcXVldApwb2V0IGNvbXBvc2VyATABAQEB X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.460 References: Message-ID: <1352884189.21804.YahooMailNeo@web132202.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:09:49 +0000 (GMT) From: Antony Hequet Reply-To: Antony Hequet Subject: TC Electronic G system as looper and MIDI controller To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="56451110-1481697945-1352884189=:21804" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119232 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:09:51 +0000 (UTC) --56451110-1481697945-1352884189=:21804 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello Loopies,=0A=0Adoes anyone have experience with the G system as a loop= er; what are the capabilities.=0A=0AHow does it function as a MIDI controll= er? Are the switches silent and sensitive?=0A=0AAntony Hequet=0Apoet compos= er --56451110-1481697945-1352884189=:21804 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hello Loopies,
does anyone have experience with the G s= ystem as a looper; what are the capabilities.
<= br>
How does it function as a MIDI controller? = Are the switches silent and sensitive?

<= div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 20px; font-family: 'Courier Ne= w', courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; = font-style: normal; ">Antony Hequet
poet composer
--56451110-1481697945-1352884189=:21804-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 14 13:50:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB260183461; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:50:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_3e0ceb4e-c5c8-4fb3-bd25-de6924ac798d_" X-Originating-IP: [184.145.30.111] From: Jack Cattedra Sender: To: Subject: RE: Granular Synthesis & Microtones Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:50:48 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Nov 2012 13:50:48.0266 (UTC) FILETIME=[0D39C2A0:01CDC26F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119233 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:50:49 +0000 (UTC) --_3e0ceb4e-c5c8-4fb3-bd25-de6924ac798d_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I love discovering equations and I MUST own that book hahahha thanks for sharing! :) Date: Tue=2C 13 Nov 2012 20:02:22 -0500 Subject: Re: Granular Synthesis & Microtones From: sylvain.trombone@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com His book is excellent:http://books.google.ca/books/about/Microsound.html?id= =3DYxnqcAR7xjkCBut very technical... not for folks who dislike equations. Sylvain = --_3e0ceb4e-c5c8-4fb3-bd25-de6924ac798d_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I love discovering equations and I MUST own that book hahahha

thanks= for sharing! :)

Date: Tue=2C 13 Nov 2012 20:02:22 -0500
Subject: Re: G= ranular Synthesis &=3B Microtones
From: sylvain.trombone@gmail.comTo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

His book is excellent:http://books.google.ca/books/about/Microsound.html?id=3D= YxnqcAR7xjkC
But very technical...  =3Bnot for folks who dislik= e equations.
Sylvain
= --_3e0ceb4e-c5c8-4fb3-bd25-de6924ac798d_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 14 16:42:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ABEE9183462; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 16:42:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=IiNV9VjpqV1e2KFE/IhctCL05BVj7BnJGAvGItVs7fg=; b=xxCWSWG/dhW1xdiUYWTs28Ru+r5rtrY+Oz5uw7gwvc0Vehh2oEkncPqBdOqz0pablz 45l167U55HyWCDUgntKzbrsz0HBBSBjh5kcAWbz3mvkPAIsxzZI+HYSuylDgBxTmweyl oEg+Km4HWe8gpfqnScV3xA/rfBSjThwvGVRsl8aCxzT9H5/Mpv0PdHXkWAhjwTsgKBuP 20lQeLRl56hKPkpkD4XZpf7b4r+RMNR9fR0eCWAE+qFAWKAFcSNWWJRKhDKdgP6LReDO +b0gd+1oc6jo7eMnhBU5PCz2LtdMFta/+6MPcXCem8UW51pwrABhDFQYxhPD71DkHkO1 Lt+A== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 07:42:04 -0900 Message-ID: Subject: Loopers in Lisbon, Portugal From: Dennis Moser To: loopers-delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119234 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 16:42:06 +0000 (UTC) Any loopers in Lisboa, Portugal? Any looping events for March, 2013 in Lisboa? Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 14 18:46:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A3C04183453; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 18:46:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 816864970/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.190.92/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.190.92 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoQEAN7lo1BV0r5c/2dsb2JhbAANN4YdiBuzdgEBAgEBAoQoAQEBAwEjFUAGCwsaAgUWCwICCQMCAQIBRRwBFodqp3Nwkm6BIo4QghSBEwObVI1a X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.83,252,1352073600"; d="scan'208";a="816864970" Message-ID: <50A3E705.4040705@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 18:46:29 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Any news on LP2, anyone? References: <1352862135.75086.YahooMailClassic@web163106.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1352862135.75086.YahooMailClassic@web163106.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119235 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 18:46:17 +0000 (UTC) Jim Bjorklun wrote: > a workaround :-) pretty much what live looping is all about andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 15 00:53:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 86D1B183461; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 00:53:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :x-priority:date:references:x-mailer; bh=DnnhJtTYKjEseIne/30HUX7zSViQzlv7jwnLskiKAu8=; b=OGGyt5HewR2TyezAQd0XjEHtevWvLGD2wOfOesfSe2aKGhL5z+Y+UBwvKB7bRzwkMx vTKCr+7M1dJvzgIXhXKS2Y2400QVIgWNC30P0/FY6BcL65jYcBX9rwVyvVkD9//6UvCX YXmXHh0L5vaAxH61GyZSwiGcUGytw1iqYHcy7GlVk18ll9ClvzS3jKAT5tbIhmhmyMxm /57zgsz5xcCiU3BzdPIPcxJFB6kQSHODXFpq1riVS/SH5+pztOwAd5qHtc/WzgeN4z5Q d0s+4viqAbuf1jSvY6rV5qhGZ7uuSfedpFwGSkhgX3laZuYH7125d+c6iX+AveMWR6mZ Yjew== Message-Id: <8F020B62-CDE2-446B-BB41-21AFFA1B9493@gmail.com> From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20121113232311.204760@gmx.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-971413064 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Researching micro tunings "hands-on" (SCALA) X-Priority: 3 Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 16:52:47 -0800 References: <20121109201519.119160@gmx.net> <20121112151549.209240@gmx.net> <20121113232311.204760@gmx.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <9Kn-sB.A.gsH.7zDpQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119236 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 00:53:15 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-971413064 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Some related resources: http://soonlabel.com/xenharmonic/ Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/xenharmonic2/ wikispace http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/microtonalListeningList http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/scaleindex regards BobC http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j --Apple-Mail-1-971413064 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Some related = resources:

= --Apple-Mail-1-971413064-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 15 00:54:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DCF0618345E; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 00:54:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_213d5b31-e7ae-4848-9518-7c809475218d_" X-Originating-IP: [81.233.147.253] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: New looping recording.... mORNING tRAFFIC guitar looper improv Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 00:54:37 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Nov 2012 00:54:37.0594 (UTC) FILETIME=[C95AE7A0:01CDC2CB] Resent-Message-ID: <6agGL.A.7yH.O1DpQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119237 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 00:54:38 +0000 (UTC) --_213d5b31-e7ae-4848-9518-7c809475218d_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Again looping and sampling guitar on the Elektron Octatrack.. only drum is = a pre-recorded sample all the rest is the live guitar loops.. 3 loops (pick= up machines) evolving and all synth like sounds and bassline is those loops= mangled and sequenced on the octatrack.. and then some soloing through the= pickup machines=2C reversing and stuff.. great fun...So basically its a dr= um loop=2C three loopers and some live mangling and sequencing of the loops= =2C that loop... ultra live looping sort of.. http://soundcloud.com/anders-= bergdahl/morning-traffic Enjoy... = --_213d5b31-e7ae-4848-9518-7c809475218d_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Again looping and sampling guitar on the Elektron Octatrack.. only drum is = a pre-recorded sample all the rest is the live guitar loops.. 3 loops (pick= up machines) =3Bevolving =3Band all synth like sounds and bassline = is those loops mangled and sequenced on the octatrack.. and then some = =3Bsoloing =3Bthrough the pickup machines=2C reversing and stuff.. grea= t fun...
So basically its a drum loop=2C three loopers and some live ma= ngling and sequencing of the loops=2C that loop... ultra live looping sort = of.. =3B
http://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/morning-traffi= c

Enjoy...
= --_213d5b31-e7ae-4848-9518-7c809475218d_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 15 05:49:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A3F218345A; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 05:49:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ie3IKm+IQi7kpc7AYF1i8bwk3mVbVpnReH3Nn32dB9I=; b=TtxiJs6a/1MaV/GAJs53ezqXpU8epUMkTnm7oc3+JnIiOJtoqiD/vzGfxx11rB2Wxo 8SzsLcAT9MHoQ5z7JlPJE2+gkvB+kPo5mzmkivN4vVhFbzU8MnJYa47kg6Qyi8CcS+KM LZjiXdSghdDRsrtWcuoUqV12uqWTPPOcB3bdiY6IiCUeEL3kGCfD1wf6EzFolmhlG4ta AvDLxfjapbtU5pZWY1G/56QUHX8YgCQdFjx2L3GlSBEgYnzZBLcWAZdrPXoDmddu+y+i JAD3mUPpXrx15ciOLslOqUkP+7vHnA1HJj5T7Fn3BU6v+6SvBj6zYK2fikBV5dz1G6R5 C+sw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 21:49:34 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Granular Synthesis & Microtones From: Ben Edwards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3a7fec34ec8c04ce8237ae Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119238 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 05:49:35 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b3a7fec34ec8c04ce8237ae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That book looks really sweet, I love that deconstruction/reconstruction theory of sound. Helps me understand String Theory a little bit more each day. On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 5:50 AM, Jack Cattedra wrote: > I love discovering equations and I MUST own that book hahahha > > thanks for sharing! :) > > ------------------------------ > Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:02:22 -0500 > Subject: Re: Granular Synthesis & Microtones > From: sylvain.trombone@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > His book is excellent: > http://books.google.ca/books/about/Microsound.html?id=YxnqcAR7xjkC > But very technical... not for folks who dislike equations. > Sylvain > --047d7b3a7fec34ec8c04ce8237ae Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That book looks really sweet, I love that deconstruction/reconstruction the= ory of sound.=A0 Helps me understand String Theory a little bit more each d= ay.

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 5:50 AM, Jack= Cattedra <jahkohmo@live.com> wrote:
I love discovering equations and I MUST own that book hahahha

thanks= for sharing! :)

Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:02:22= -0500
Subject: Re: Granular Synthesis & Microtones
From: sylvain.trombone@g= mail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com


His book= is excellent:http://books.google.ca/books/about/Mi= crosound.html?id=3DYxnqcAR7xjkC
But very technical... =A0not for folks who dislike equations.
Sylvain

--047d7b3a7fec34ec8c04ce8237ae-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 15 05:55:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0566918345D; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 05:55:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Hycp8RHe1rwcqVLHQ4y8CnlJp4PT9Cr7FKASO2kDomw=; b=tXTmNRvsvj9ISK7teK5hUh96cJRiJNU68zsSGG2umar4ZeKRl6q5Q5QN+jNytSVzZ6 tbqABTNQXG8/FQFGzICySXJu2G1exkU6fdbEiFar798pf+cOuwG5j3VvUaCjjmkEymfD xUISnF66Wx6h5t2aKqfs86hw8soedjt2Cx2CUCyzZc3jNglC+nL8UIZ2kisHCboY2EW0 /5VgNf3aAk5Q0DfwUSp0hU1aB1haPbH6B+4WG+cND3KB04b4axpv8dGKo6MqGC2IcCNS 12zmJ6wOzRj6K+j2q9i7i7NqdTSGGmDiZcTHLK6QBs6EGAgB5HyXT2nBkUkATqeveDxv dAeA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8F020B62-CDE2-446B-BB41-21AFFA1B9493@gmail.com> References: <20121109201519.119160@gmx.net> <20121112151549.209240@gmx.net> <20121113232311.204760@gmx.net> <8F020B62-CDE2-446B-BB41-21AFFA1B9493@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 21:55:06 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Researching micro tunings "hands-on" (SCALA) From: Ben Edwards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6049ba03d6c404ce824b07 Resent-Message-ID: <0fsK0C.A.6PC.7OIpQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119239 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 05:55:07 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b6049ba03d6c404ce824b07 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I love that word Xenharmonic, would make a killer improv fusion band name. This plugin is a free VST and is a good start for using softsynth xenharmonic exploration : http://www.xen-arts.com/2011/01/new-release-xenharmonic-fmts-vsti.html On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:52 PM, RP Collier wrote: > Some related resources: > > http://soonlabel.com/xenharmonic/ > > > Facebook > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/xenharmonic2/ > > > wikispace > > http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/microtonalListeningList > > http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/scaleindex > > > > > regards > BobC > > > http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j > --047d7b6049ba03d6c404ce824b07 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I love that word Xenharmonic, would make a killer improv fusion band name.= =A0 This plugin is a free VST and is a good start for using softsynth xenha= rmonic exploration : http://www.xen-arts.com/2011/01/new-release-xe= nharmonic-fmts-vsti.html

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:52 PM, RP Collier = <skeptikalist@gmail.com> wrote:
Some related resources:

<= div>http://= soonlabel.com/xenharmonic/

--047d7b6049ba03d6c404ce824b07-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 15 08:56:04 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 170F2183461; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 08:56:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_22fde1cd-1362-4a69-9e57-4f2b600dff4f_" X-Originating-IP: [184.145.30.111] From: Jack Cattedra To: Subject: RE: Researching micro tunings "hands-on" (SCALA) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 08:56:01 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,<20121109201519.119160@gmx.net>,,,<20121112151549.209240@gmx.net>,,,<20121113232311.204760@gmx.net>,<8F020B62-CDE2-446B-BB41-21AFFA1B9493@gmail.com>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Nov 2012 08:56:01.0318 (UTC) FILETIME=[09656C60:01CDC30F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119240 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 08:56:03 +0000 (UTC) --_22fde1cd-1362-4a69-9e57-4f2b600dff4f_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable AWESOME! thanks for sharing Date: Wed=2C 14 Nov 2012 21:55:06 -0800 Subject: Re: Researching micro tunings "hands-on" (SCALA) From: astralmnemonics@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com I love that word Xenharmonic=2C would make a killer improv fusion band name= . This plugin is a free VST and is a good start for using softsynth xenhar= monic exploration : http://www.xen-arts.com/2011/01/new-release-xenharmonic= -fmts-vsti.html = --_22fde1cd-1362-4a69-9e57-4f2b600dff4f_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
AWESOME! thanks for sharing

Date: Wed=2C 14 Nov 2012 21:55:06 -0800
Subje= ct: Re: Researching micro tunings "hands-on" (SCALA)
From: astralmnemoni= cs@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

I love that = word Xenharmonic=2C would make a killer improv fusion band name. =3B Th= is plugin is a free VST and is a good start for using softsynth xenharmonic= exploration : http://www.xen-arts.com/2011/01/ne= w-release-xenharmonic-fmts-vsti.html
= --_22fde1cd-1362-4a69-9e57-4f2b600dff4f_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 15 13:55:01 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 62CF318345E; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 13:55:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=kSDPvscSOuWKLtauxufh95kkDDPzs5ogpBExgKv1kg4=; b=gZPDVOXNIF6YR8izWojLLuBrv+BZxQny1Ry/VzR1GTtAblsiz1wDP0szfaTFfC13lg n82YUAvFshXhXqjb5K1uesELyqlbd+dc1oWaDSueetiAvCrH+q75IMZXl8xP5F7su5qj SyFhRRAWTzASJXGp5KLbaUYqXmX4UnMvrAX2QpM7MQ28VXthexkRg/8K0ObrNrMKmy6Z qUJ073UcSBj7qnXFe/33OUfooDtJ3ETJ37kRUjCYSKKr5sS7in6fAsUzC3wo/3pc7f+p VpvsvbOaj8q2f5wTTnR7qRbmUvIKScILsUHKWE+xB6vvSbFMguXwnjwgPnIzrX0/eKSH FoOA== MIME-Version: 1.0 From: todd reynolds Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 08:54:14 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: just a quick Happy Birthday note for Per! To: "Looper's Delight" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb1f6ca3cd44004ce88ff5a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119241 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 13:55:01 +0000 (UTC) --e89a8fb1f6ca3cd44004ce88ff5a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Wanted to send out a quick Happy Birthday shoutout to our own Per Boysen, whose generosity and participation, whose thorough and information-ridden posts edify us all! Have a great one Per and thanks for being so great on the list for all of us. --e89a8fb1f6ca3cd44004ce88ff5a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wanted to send out a quick Happy Birthday shoutout to our own Per Boysen, w= hose generosity and participation, whose thorough and information-ridden po= sts edify us all! =A0

Have a great one Per and thanks fo= r being so great on the list for all of us.=A0






--e89a8fb1f6ca3cd44004ce88ff5a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 15 14:07:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1361618345D; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 14:07:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_d27560fe-42e6-44f8-bb5f-ef6e7baec7c9_" X-Originating-IP: [81.233.147.253] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: just a quick Happy Birthday note for Per! Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 14:07:39 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Nov 2012 14:07:39.0754 (UTC) FILETIME=[928854A0:01CDC33A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119242 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 14:07:40 +0000 (UTC) --_d27560fe-42e6-44f8-bb5f-ef6e7baec7c9_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Happy Birthday Per!!! Hurra=2C Hurra=2C Hurra=2C Hurra... ja m=E5 han leva.= ..=20 :-) From: toddreyn@gmail.com Date: Thu=2C 15 Nov 2012 08:54:14 -0500 Subject: just a quick Happy Birthday note for Per! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Wanted to send out a quick Happy Birthday shoutout to our own Per Boysen=2C= whose generosity and participation=2C whose thorough and information-ridde= n posts edify us all! =20 Have a great one Per and thanks for being so great on the list for all of u= s.=20 = --_d27560fe-42e6-44f8-bb5f-ef6e7baec7c9_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Happy Birthday Per!!! Hurra=2C Hurra=2C Hurra=2C Hurra... ja m=E5 han leva.= .. =3B
 =3B:-)
From: toddreyn@gmail.com
Date: Thu=2C 15 Nov 2012 0= 8:54:14 -0500
Subject: just a quick Happy Birthday note for Per!
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Wanted to send out a quick Happy= Birthday shoutout to our own Per Boysen=2C whose generosity and participat= ion=2C whose thorough and information-ridden posts edify us all!  =3B
Have a great one Per and thanks for being so great on the= list for all of us. =3B






= --_d27560fe-42e6-44f8-bb5f-ef6e7baec7c9_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 15 14:09:39 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C154D18345D; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 14:09:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date :to; bh=qFh9syJvjSC7iWMJtVoVJ2nIQPD5jc7qKto9vzIWozU=; b=gta/Fffx22QohOtLu1ZC+gseQ19ZNSoZM6ow4j+w0qEMCVU7IVminZYzlMzkAeMIKN poVcoWr3EHhH9EIzKZvJOsI7VLb98HMe1ZtoIZWfwfgq0cHBeatuRWRjmpAUN3XXxoAM 9VGINf3yaKoWR/SIPJyhDanble/2rYM2vZ1DnTGXYFWcOKixWXntqOI9b8rTbpf5Z2c9 HEQWP62xgObby5Rml9avriwCrucvjFB4aXDlqDVnPxNR9vXbI7XuGM0gSFKuN2pLO4Ok cWlbvlIK1hf6G/c/ataYoKEKzGmLL5NlEsmDNEzVgfFIY1f78JTlAlBfri+HWjGOQgJj bGyg== References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-40C0E757-7B07-4558-BF53-A45DAEB03AD5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Cc: Looper's Delight X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10A523) From: Jim Goodin Subject: Re: just a quick Happy Birthday note for Per! Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 09:09:34 -0500 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: <3i9i8B.A.m8F.iePpQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119243 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 14:09:38 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-40C0E757-7B07-4558-BF53-A45DAEB03AD5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I echoe Todd. Per have a wonderful birthday and great creative year to come.= Jim On Nov 15, 2012, at 8:54 AM, todd reynolds wrote: > Wanted to send out a quick Happy Birthday shoutout to our own Per Boysen, w= hose generosity and participation, whose thorough and information-ridden pos= ts edify us all! =20 >=20 > Have a great one Per and thanks for being so great on the list for all of u= s.=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-40C0E757-7B07-4558-BF53-A45DAEB03AD5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I echoe Todd. Per have a wonderful birthday and great creative year to come.  Jim

On Nov 15, 2012, at 8:54 AM, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:

Wanted to send out a quick Happy Birthday shoutout to our own Per Boysen, whose generosity and participation, whose thorough and information-ridden posts edify us all!  

Have a great one Per and thanks for being so great on the list for all of us. 






--Apple-Mail-40C0E757-7B07-4558-BF53-A45DAEB03AD5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 15 14:59:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F4166183460; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 14:59:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=l34Y/DinjpQ16NHJ9yeSwJbbNBRto/WR0C0YsmvtuCtI5f+RsdQmSXTFXX+McOBh; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 09:59:10 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: just a quick Happy Birthday note for Per! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec7943bae6a1794f92faba8eb86ec14b360f350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: <4kDrLD.A.PaG.ENQpQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119244 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 14:59:16 +0000 (UTC) Per, you are a rare gem on this list. I always read your posts... Happy Birthday, fellow Scorpio.. -Chuck Zwicky -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 15 15:15:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 61064183462; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 15:15:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=RmWBN/96VkoVL8xqECHoFVJr9Xn/YT9YLv63hqQGT/0=; b=u3q12/+lp8bLbcpiiXhTlkkUwOOlrJbNPFbVdO/aqxFDswOq7FMVQr1WK04GR0q31x 8EKE1kmf0YdHJgrqU9ALT26NxO0+/mn7Zq07bu5rN/tOlv1WXfYfX7GSnghhohKrPN44 C/GxR6xPdOXNGG0qgf9V+591GW9s9Nrn9j5lQRTfugLfDMARTMPsseKFh8hL7urlYiRz /AX7clFCBeAdjy7+aZewLZNBqq3wbsmpulh6KqMCCZ3HcqX2byk/nhk5V9OqWGkNrPdL sVV0vkLlAGoT7NGWA8p20+0vgtkgHrOETl+ho2ab75m5Gv6qUe0JBnKbDQadH+eFE/x5 Gj6A== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 10:15:22 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: just a quick Happy Birthday note for Per! From: Thomas Wegmann To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f362cb44b2604ce8a1e08 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119245 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 15:15:24 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307f362cb44b2604ce8a1e08 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Have a great day Per! Love your posts! On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > Per, you are a rare gem on this list. I always read your posts... > > Happy Birthday, fellow Scorpio.. > > -Chuck Zwicky > -- > > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > http://www.esession.com/**ChuckZwicky > > http://albumcredits.com/zmix > > -- Greg Wegmann TheWeg@Frontier.com TheWeg@GMail.com --20cf307f362cb44b2604ce8a1e08 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Have a great day Per!=A0 Love your posts!

On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Charles Zwicky = <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:
Per, you are a rare gem on this list.= =A0I always read your posts...

Happy Birthday, fellow Scorpio..
=
-Chuck Zwicky
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= ...
http://www.zmix.n= et

http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky

http://album= credits.com/zmix




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--20cf307f362cb44b2604ce8a1e08-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 15 15:37:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D44D183463; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 15:37:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=8o//B4IucHYBKSw6ZzJ5BKvhDmK8HQmI5fv+ogTc58g= c=1 sm=1 a=zHHj8rz3UKgA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=UncmS/Am0Fgh8c8TZh5eWA==:17 a=Xl8WVPO3KvU4jgBIm7UA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=UncmS/Am0Fgh8c8TZh5eWA==:117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Re: just a quick Happy Birthday note for Per! From: Ted Killian In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 07:37:20 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119246 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 15:37:22 +0000 (UTC) HBDPB. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 15 16:18:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A226183463; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:18:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Q77s4Op9SsoUOVeYffi5V5/k3nh70JN8hAR1FVCNxvw=; b=VG6rxq9lbAMJm1n1I6IEkjuAkZDzkLGkrk0dSKYhWZPdQNsdrnYR73g3b3Y2R/+ghv rqAqCZVuZ4KYTRGC4lCYc9cKx8uZZh/x5o4lFJZIlJkiOkpZJM+p32iAdkbUeHci4oaB fOtCBuOoRgOR0kpJqWW4g8TQu0CYwQJN7cCHY+q2lwDeLbPnPCIU45n8nZPzsjYIoN3H Z4ERsahMgAA2MY0MzwbbVEQW3FjeMudpfHmCsfPZakKtKHHzfdaZcchKT4650YR87Z3e OeM/3ZXCINJQzEFzoOVqBOWw1//+O3fnbbH2NRvv2kwq1aRMjcAwkRL1e6ClHSDWrZpJ 2XBw== Message-ID: <50A515D1.8000902@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 17:18:25 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? References: <50998140.5070608@tiscali.co.uk> <509A8D4C.3060604@soaringspider.com> <-6334793227960909891@unknownmsgid> In-Reply-To: <-6334793227960909891@unknownmsgid> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119247 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:18:30 +0000 (UTC) Am 08.11.12 07:37, schrieb mark francombe: > Oh really, you think that music that is 8 cents different will do that? > What happens if you play 100 cents out? Oh yeah... a new key... Cant say > Ive been feeling those shifts into heart music when I operate My whammy bar. The difference is 8 Hz! at that pitch its 32 cent. (Max is great to calculate things like that...) The only thing I believe is relevant, are the instruments. As Per said already, his flute doesn't fit to a base 32 cent off the one the instrument was intended to be tuned to. All baroque musicians I know tune to lower pitches. Their instruments are made for that. If you think about it, it's actually not too much of a mystery to find out which pitches had been used in ancient times. Many of these old instruments have been kept alive over all these centuries. Tune them to what sounds best and your heart will open, simply because you love the sound. It is the sound, not the frequency... Perfect pitch is not a skill, its a disease... But if you are trained to perfect pitch @ A 440, any pitch based on 432 will sound wrong by 32 cents. But this also applies to equal tempered scales, if you "perfect" pitch is trained to that, even a perfect third will not sound perfect... There are rumors that listening to such tunings can cure this disease...;-) Stefan -- Les Ondes Memorielles--------x-- -_____-----------|-----------|-- -(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- - _|_)----|-----()-------------- ---------()----------TJ Shredder http://tjshredder.wordpress.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 15 16:30:14 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B505E183465; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:30:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:subject:from:to:cc:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer; bh=S/KE278p4QnD2yha2nUtNWXAU1rF3IL2ZPm6/S4ZIXM=; b=J3ynf2noISUgzln3NW+45EzMiYT1Gwg+Xuldo/AwDpJEYdCL19fZVPBQ4xJJ2Y0Jpp QhTZ/EbvqnyVO77liAZ9AKvPz0INL8upoDMOSqZqlHJJblq5q4ymq+pu0pY+eH9UtO28 xH8s3s1XIMjk/bu/jnAAFAJb4Ym02CJa1kAm/e/AGJg2Bw5BHu1wbYp1gWNfdi8v34pf SvwJfNNitZl1jpWwFOEWCD5VQMGAwWGqYSQAe5qxp4bccCcpZ6k3lt3sx6h2ZfuswxSc 3p/vNWrAzlc3ELN5UzVA3G0El/xLXWu0Er0066x9icKmlhnbu9Yb3A6F/3jI70pY7WZE Tu/w== Message-ID: <50a51893.665a420a.030d.076e@mx.google.com> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 08:30:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? From: "astralmnemonics@gmail.com" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com CC: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Seven Enterprise Gateway (v 2.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119248 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:30:14 +0000 (UTC) ''Perfect pitch is not a skill, it's a disease'' haha yes made me laugh, totally agree it's all relative to ratio relationships -----Original Message----- Date: Thursday, November 15, 2012 8:18:37 am To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Stefan Tiedje" Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? Am 08.11.12 07:37, schrieb mark francombe: > Oh really, you think that music that is 8 cents different will do that? > What happens if you play 100 cents out? Oh yeah... a new key... Cant say > Ive been feeling those shifts into heart music when I operate My whammy bar. The difference is 8 Hz! at that pitch its 32 cent. (Max is great to calculate things like that...) The only thing I believe is relevant, are the instruments. As Per said already, his flute doesn't fit to a base 32 cent off the one the instrument was intended to be tuned to. All baroque musicians I know tune to lower pitches. Their instruments are made for that. If you think about it, it's actually not too much of a mystery to find out which pitches had been used in ancient times. Many of these old instruments have been kept alive over all these centuries. Tune them to what sounds best and your heart will open, simply because you love the sound. It is the sound, not the frequency... Perfect pitch is not a skill, its a disease... But if you are trained to perfect pitch @ A 440, any pitch based on 432 will sound wrong by 32 cents. But this also applies to equal tempered scales, if you "perfect" pitch is trained to that, even a perfect third will not sound perfect... There are rumors that listening to such tunings can cure this disease...;-) Stefan -- Les Ondes Memorielles--------x-- -_____-----------|-----------|-- -(_|_ ----|\-----|-----( From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 15 16:49:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6ECE183474; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:49:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:mime-version :content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:importance:x-mailer :x-mimeole; bh=oJPlwgC/M56cuPgq7iu59sPfiw1XLhkQSkxIfyn3a3E=; b=MHGSaZpp877vOHjFjBMZboIDqLfaml0bsqtCO7n9jKpWyIfYiySgFlC3cGFfWLKEo2 xKN0U+EfXtw6bweh9ADt+f5zG7WH7wkPxXYnZtSH0zrP5hYCxVzr1f0Asdwwb2VC6pbL WMbHnGUUm1dEoH1sNOmbe7MOYdMk6Ys43O4k5f8o6U0hobSHSnqfbf2zzhv0az/QiPq6 nf7kwTGS07T7Y1btwtI54sXc8FFbMdJ3va/NvNQ2zs0JYWCfraYipQ0fWt0uAC2UA/CT V5U7i6/PlcQSePMQ3w2w+QrxpVGikqx/wY4iwWAyTNq3/spzskHDYuUBb1BicYZ/NcOR UoRg== Message-ID: <364708A93D79495A9B7300ABF9410DD9@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Kris Hartung" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: just a quick Happy Birthday note for Per! 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So, Per, what are you, something like 24 or 25? 
 
 
 

 

 
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On Nov 15, 2012, at 5:54 AM, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:

Wanted to send out a quick Happy Birthday shoutout to our own Per Boysen, whose generosity and participation, whose thorough and information-ridden posts edify us all!  

Have a great one Per and thanks for being so great on the list for all of us. 







--Boundary_(ID_uGFzcA8G8gjmxl5swPLUGg)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 15 17:51:39 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 81E79183466; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 17:51:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=zZkLC2ZGEcIyhY4VW6Arelxu243o26qdoQt9aVbPaB4=; b=TwzGiLE763WIcIhr0YTJP7TYTpjDk61KiXvt0WMaLw2F/qzDbHEAHb+Mx6Tkh9BGzy uwo8uqONeIDx9afvJ18wiB2C2xLrSQNOCsgsK1GsJEjzHGMxm3+8Ae58Sb/GI5Ew/SE6 hS03xIiW77H/OfVqy2chhDqENGfMlkctmBFULlgE2UPDtm395LYaQz9zAVDuZvS0Q5nt d6o39SnXQRF0WAFxtwIDa3qUuMFYU/uGRymrQ1B95m+/6jUOIwvL2PgYWBud5RxrPyV5 aBGJvtY2K5SvbQY984xMbD/FjpCnqaduI7WJ1e7KcRvyBlQjNFcf9tbDztLQwCbEChdU WxaA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:51:37 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: just a quick Happy Birthday note for Per! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119251 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 17:51:39 +0000 (UTC) Thank you everyone for posting birthday congratulations here! Yes, I was born i Scorpio but that was 57 years ago so my accurate chart might be something else by now. Got most planets in that sign by the first house with Mercury rising - which should give a probability to believe more in human will, knowledge and free thought than in Astrology and that is pretty much my take on it. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 15 19:27:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1A57183464; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:27:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=aK/EMZj1ylJSixjGgc4gbi5I1+qci0Y7/ZLAC7juyL0=; b=PpSt8ZYkMGTa7jTWQvKn5GgmsNNE5faCR4PVqjzogTJRqA1J/lVp6xF9l++KNqYdeY Pq5GWylrKaFhKtIwZ0+ke4ESjMZRBRjs+9ZacMJDqPF0HhvRrdDH3hhrixUREje3vt4H cF+zZjeuxFxfdokR8zuyG7dMiAtjEOU8KL3BLEx0vyooe7tlFW1RrQ5GgkDGVTYh/tLm wUE1IzV2fTb+oJE8c0mO+tj7oTqoDeuwDWlu7PJPrdURAxm/zq1bs0Vqq8VfWXCfht60 hYyirBshTi+p2oZJc9TjpPk8qMkoU72okeZsk14HF/ZN/JLTdvfA6ewhmbULCDDseyFn QX7Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <50a51893.665a420a.030d.076e@mx.google.com> References: <50a51893.665a420a.030d.076e@mx.google.com> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:27:00 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: bwVXEcU6EYQexwyj6i2F59iUX-Q Message-ID: Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b670727cadba504ce8da30e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119252 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:27:22 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b670727cadba504ce8da30e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well thankfully I have never been afflicted by the said disease at all! If you played me a C and told me it was a F I'd believe you, well.. maybe not, but that would be because I would suspect you were up to something and look carefully into your eyes. If Ive done a gig and my G string is a bit out, Ill play on!! Much more important to rock, than to stop and say.. hang on... I think my G string is loose (might get a laugh tho). I think this is an interesting thread, and I actually love the sound of dissonance and note clusters and the subtleties of tuning for effect, But playing conventional music in weird micro tunings (like on the link posted earlier in this thread) just sounds HORRIBLE to my ears... I dont care if its related to the golden mean or the layout of the pyramids of Maya... or exact reproductions of harmonical relationships... The audience thinks your are our of tune dude! Ive been trying to think of a few references to recording that I think are interesting due to weird tunings, and I cant think of one, but there are a few related things. The tremolo bends on "Loveless" (My Blood Valentine of course.. my god they have reformed... cant wait for my ears to bleed again!!) I absolutely adore, one of the best albums ever. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf8j1bUgwJ8&feature=related And I'm still a sucker for the grungy noize of World Domination Enterprise, where the guitarist tuned to a cassette tape of him playing a tuning that he couldnt get from a tuner, apparently he woke up one day to an out of tune guitar, didnt bother tuning it, and had such a good jam, he taped the tuning and just stuck to it...! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isi4FYDFfps&feature=related Or if you prefer, listen to some crapo muso playing some clever assed tricky composition in Just Intonation, and tell me which is best! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:30 PM, astralmnemonics@gmail.com < astralmnemonics@gmail.com> wrote: > ''Perfect pitch is not a skill, it's a disease'' haha yes made me laugh, > totally agree it's all relative to ratio relationships > -----Original Message----- > Date: Thursday, November 15, 2012 8:18:37 am > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > From: "Stefan Tiedje" > Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? > > Am 08.11.12 07:37, schrieb mark francombe: > > Oh really, you think that music that is 8 cents different will do that? > > What happens if you play 100 cents out? Oh yeah... a new key... Cant say > > Ive been feeling those shifts into heart music when I operate My whammy > bar. > > The difference is 8 Hz! at that pitch its 32 cent. (Max is great to > calculate things like that...) > > The only thing I believe is relevant, are the instruments. As Per said > already, his flute doesn't fit to a base 32 cent off the one the > instrument was intended to be tuned to. > > All baroque musicians I know tune to lower pitches. Their instruments > are made for that. If you think about it, it's actually not too much of > a mystery to find out which pitches had been used in ancient times. Many > of these old instruments have been kept alive over all these centuries. > Tune them to what sounds best and your heart will open, simply because > you love the sound. It is the sound, not the frequency... > > Perfect pitch is not a skill, its a disease... But if you are trained to > perfect pitch @ A 440, any pitch based on 432 will sound wrong by 32 > cents. But this also applies to equal tempered scales, if you "perfect" > pitch is trained to that, even a perfect third will not sound perfect... > There are rumors that listening to such tunings can cure this disease...;-) > > Stefan > > -- > Les Ondes Memorielles--------x-- > -_____-----------|-----------|-- > -(_|_ ----|\-----|-----( > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b670727cadba504ce8da30e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well thankfully I have never been afflicted by the said disease at all! If = you played me a C and told me it was a F I'd believe you, well.. maybe = not, but that would be because I would suspect you were up to something and= look carefully into your eyes.

If Ive done a gig and my G string is a bit out, Ill play on!! Much more= =20 important to rock, than to stop and say.. hang on... I think my G string is loose (might get a laugh tho).

I think this is an interesting th= read, and I actually love the sound of dissonance and note clusters and the= subtleties of tuning for effect,
But playing conventional music in weir= d micro tunings (like on the link posted earlier in this thread) just sound= s HORRIBLE to my ears... I dont care if its related to the golden mean or t= he layout of the pyramids of Maya... or exact reproductions of harmonical r= elationships... The audience thinks your are our of tune dude!

Ive been trying to think of a few references to recording that I think = are interesting due to weird tunings, and I cant think of one, but there ar= e a few related things.

The tremolo bends on "Loveless" (M= y Blood Valentine of course.. my god they have reformed... cant wait for my= ears to bleed again!!) I absolutely adore, one of the best albums ever. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DLf8j1bUgwJ8&feature=3Drelated And I'm still a sucker for the grungy noize of World Domination Enterpr= ise, where the guitarist tuned to a cassette tape of him playing a tuning t= hat he couldnt get from a tuner, apparently he woke up one day to an out of= tune guitar, didnt bother tuning it, and had such a good jam, he taped the= tuning and just stuck to it...! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Disi4= FYDFfps&feature=3Drelated

Or if you prefer, listen to some crapo muso playing some clever assed t= ricky composition in Just Intonation, and tell me which is best! https://www.youtube.com/wat= ch?v=3DdQw4w9WgXcQ



On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:30 PM, astralmnemonics@gmail.com <astralmnemonics@gmail.com> wrote:
''Perfect pitch is not a skill, it&#= 39;s a disease'' haha yes made me laugh, totally agree it's all= relative to ratio relationships
-----Original Message-----
Date: Thursday, November 15, 2012 8:18:37 am
To: Loopers-Delight@= loopers-delight.com
From: "Stefan Tiedje" <stefantiedje@googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz?

Am 08.11.12 07:37, schrieb mark francombe:
> Oh really, you think that music that is 8 cents different will do that= ?
> What happens if you play 100 cents out? Oh yeah... a new key... Cant s= ay
> Ive been feeling those shifts into heart music when I operate My whamm= y bar.

The difference is 8 Hz! at that pitch its 32 cent. (Max is great to
calculate things like that...)

The only thing I believe is relevant, are the instruments. As Per said
already, his flute doesn't fit to a base 32 cent off the one the
instrument was intended to be tuned to.

All baroque musicians I know tune to lower pitches. Their instruments
are made for that. If you think about it, it's actually not too much of=
a mystery to find out which pitches had been used in ancient times. Many of these old instruments have been kept alive over all these centuries.
Tune them to what sounds best and your heart will open, simply because
you love the sound. It is the sound, not the frequency...

Perfect pitch is not a skill, its a disease... But if you are trained to perfect pitch @ A 440, any pitch based on 432 will sound wrong by 32
cents. But this also applies to equal tempered scales, if you "perfect= "
pitch is trained to that, even a perfect third will not sound perfect... There are rumors that listening to such tunings can cure this disease...;-)=

Stefan

--
Les Ondes Memorielles--------x--
-_____-----------|-----------|--
-(_|_ ----|\-----|-----(




--
= Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
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--047d7b670727cadba504ce8da30e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 15 19:34:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C30E1183463; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:34:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <50A543AF.6010602@virgin.net> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:34:07 +0000 From: Dave Draper Reply-To: Dave Draper , dh.draper@virgin.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Buzap Buzap CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Researching micro tunings "hands-on" (fluid piano) References: <20121113235421.204750@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20121113235421.204750@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-Smarthost03-IP: [82.69.58.35] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119253 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:34:05 +0000 (UTC) On 13/11/2012 23:54, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Actually... forget microtonal tuning on midi keyboards - I love this: FLUID PIANO > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7Cq3pbcMkI > > Isn't this great?? > Buzap > Cool! Dave From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 15 19:38:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47692183465; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:38:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_rQLXxtLDiZ60qP/B7xXrMg)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8185,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-11-15_05:2012-11-15,2012-11-15,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=5 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1211150197 From: Daniel Thomas Message-id: Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 11:38:13 -0800 References: <50a51893.665a420a.030d.076e@mx.google.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Resent-Message-ID: <1dd-OD.A.10B.kSUpQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119254 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:38:13 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_rQLXxtLDiZ60qP/B7xXrMg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable "The audience thinks your are our of tune dude!" Its true that Western ears hear so called micro-tunings as out of tune. = But Eastern ears hear the discrete pitches between half-steps where a = Westerner will hear only a flat or sharp pitch drifting to the expected = diatonic note. =20 Indian Ragas are full of musical learning opportunities (as opposed to = "horrible" dissonances.) Listening to good musical use of good micro = tunings helps Western musicians to develop the ear for micro=96tunings. =20= D On Nov 15, 2012, at 11:27 AM, mark francombe = wrote: > Well thankfully I have never been afflicted by the said disease at = all! If you played me a C and told me it was a F I'd believe you, well.. = maybe not, but that would be because I would suspect you were up to = something and look carefully into your eyes. >=20 > If Ive done a gig and my G string is a bit out, Ill play on!! Much = more important to rock, than to stop and say.. hang on... I think my G = string is loose (might get a laugh tho). >=20 > I think this is an interesting thread, and I actually love the sound = of dissonance and note clusters and the subtleties of tuning for effect, > But playing conventional music in weird micro tunings (like on the = link posted earlier in this thread) just sounds HORRIBLE to my ears... I = dont care if its related to the golden mean or the layout of the = pyramids of Maya... or exact reproductions of harmonical = relationships... The audience thinks your are our of tune dude! >=20 > Ive been trying to think of a few references to recording that I think = are interesting due to weird tunings, and I cant think of one, but there = are a few related things. >=20 > The tremolo bends on "Loveless" (My Blood Valentine of course.. my god = they have reformed... cant wait for my ears to bleed again!!) I = absolutely adore, one of the best albums ever. = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DLf8j1bUgwJ8&feature=3Drelated > And I'm still a sucker for the grungy noize of World Domination = Enterprise, where the guitarist tuned to a cassette tape of him playing = a tuning that he couldnt get from a tuner, apparently he woke up one day = to an out of tune guitar, didnt bother tuning it, and had such a good = jam, he taped the tuning and just stuck to it...! = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Disi4FYDFfps&feature=3Drelated >=20 > Or if you prefer, listen to some crapo muso playing some clever assed = tricky composition in Just Intonation, and tell me which is best! = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DdQw4w9WgXcQ >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:30 PM, astralmnemonics@gmail.com = wrote: > ''Perfect pitch is not a skill, it's a disease'' haha yes made me = laugh, totally agree it's all relative to ratio relationships > -----Original Message----- > Date: Thursday, November 15, 2012 8:18:37 am > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > From: "Stefan Tiedje" > Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? >=20 > Am 08.11.12 07:37, schrieb mark francombe: > > Oh really, you think that music that is 8 cents different will do = that? > > What happens if you play 100 cents out? Oh yeah... a new key... Cant = say > > Ive been feeling those shifts into heart music when I operate My = whammy bar. >=20 > The difference is 8 Hz! at that pitch its 32 cent. (Max is great to > calculate things like that...) >=20 > The only thing I believe is relevant, are the instruments. As Per said > already, his flute doesn't fit to a base 32 cent off the one the > instrument was intended to be tuned to. >=20 > All baroque musicians I know tune to lower pitches. Their instruments > are made for that. If you think about it, it's actually not too much = of > a mystery to find out which pitches had been used in ancient times. = Many > of these old instruments have been kept alive over all these = centuries. > Tune them to what sounds best and your heart will open, simply because > you love the sound. It is the sound, not the frequency... >=20 > Perfect pitch is not a skill, its a disease... But if you are trained = to > perfect pitch @ A 440, any pitch based on 432 will sound wrong by 32 > cents. But this also applies to equal tempered scales, if you = "perfect" > pitch is trained to that, even a perfect third will not sound = perfect... > There are rumors that listening to such tunings can cure this = disease...;-) >=20 > Stefan >=20 > -- > Les Ondes Memorielles--------x-- > -_____-----------|-----------|-- > -(_|_ ----|\-----|-----( >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ >=20 --Boundary_(ID_rQLXxtLDiZ60qP/B7xXrMg) Content-type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable "The = audience thinks your are our of tune dude!"

Its true that Western = ears hear so called micro-tunings as out of tune.  But Eastern ears = hear the discrete pitches between half-steps where a Westerner will hear = only a flat or sharp pitch drifting to the expected diatonic note. =  
Indian Ragas are full of musical learning = opportunities (as opposed to "horrible" dissonances.) =   Listening to good musical use of good micro tunings helps = Western musicians to develop the ear for micro=96tunings. =  

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On Nov 15, 2012, at 11:27 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> = wrote:

Well thankfully I have never been afflicted by the said = disease at all! If you played me a C and told me it was a F I'd believe = you, well.. maybe not, but that would be because I would suspect you = were up to something and look carefully into your eyes.

If Ive done a gig and my G string is a bit out, Ill play on!! Much = more=20 important to rock, than to stop and say.. hang on... I think my G string is loose (might get a laugh tho).

I think this is an interesting = thread, and I actually love the sound of dissonance and note clusters = and the subtleties of tuning for effect,
But playing conventional = music in weird micro tunings (like on the link posted earlier in this = thread) just sounds HORRIBLE to my ears... I dont care if its related to = the golden mean or the layout of the pyramids of Maya... or exact = reproductions of harmonical relationships... The audience thinks your = are our of tune dude!

Ive been trying to think of a few references to recording that I = think are interesting due to weird tunings, and I cant think of one, but = there are a few related things.

The tremolo bends on "Loveless" = (My Blood Valentine of course.. my god they have reformed... cant wait = for my ears to bleed again!!) I absolutely adore, one of the best albums = ever. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DLf8j1bUgwJ8&feature=3Drelated And I'm still a sucker for the grungy noize of World Domination = Enterprise, where the guitarist tuned to a cassette tape of him playing = a tuning that he couldnt get from a tuner, apparently he woke up one day = to an out of tune guitar, didnt bother tuning it, and had such a good = jam, he taped the tuning and just stuck to it...! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Disi4FYDFfps&feature=3Drelated
Or if you prefer, listen to some crapo muso playing some clever = assed tricky composition in Just Intonation, and tell me which is best! = https://www.youtube= .com/watch?v=3DdQw4w9WgXcQ



On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:30 PM, = astralmnemonics@gmail.com= <astralmnemonics@gmail.com> wrote:
''Perfect pitch is not = a skill, it's a disease'' haha yes made me laugh, totally agree it's all = relative to ratio relationships
-----Original Message-----
Date: Thursday, November 15, 2012 8:18:37 am
To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
From: "Stefan Tiedje" <stefantiedje@googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz?

Am 08.11.12 07:37, schrieb mark francombe:
> Oh really, you think that music that is 8 cents different will do = that?
> What happens if you play 100 cents out? Oh yeah... a new key... = Cant say
> Ive been feeling those shifts into heart music when I operate My = whammy bar.

The difference is 8 Hz! at that pitch its 32 cent. (Max is great to
calculate things like that...)

The only thing I believe is relevant, are the instruments. As Per = said
already, his flute doesn't fit to a base 32 cent off the one the
instrument was intended to be tuned to.

All baroque musicians I know tune to lower pitches. Their = instruments
are made for that. If you think about it, it's actually not too much = of
a mystery to find out which pitches had been used in ancient times. = Many
of these old instruments have been kept alive over all these = centuries.
Tune them to what sounds best and your heart will open, simply = because
you love the sound. It is the sound, not the frequency...

Perfect pitch is not a skill, its a disease... But if you are trained = to
perfect pitch @ A 440, any pitch based on 432 will sound wrong by 32
cents. But this also applies to equal tempered scales, if you = "perfect"
pitch is trained to that, even a perfect third will not sound = perfect...
There are rumors that listening to such tunings can cure this = disease...;-)

Stefan

--
Les Ondes Memorielles--------x--
-_____-----------|-----------|--
-(_|_ ----|\-----|-----(




--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/


= --Boundary_(ID_rQLXxtLDiZ60qP/B7xXrMg)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 15 19:41:09 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 99F9B183463; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:41:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:subject:from:to:cc:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer; bh=7njFgshA7CvJxLHQxF4v3ipTkq9DzqAKDIbXdrx+sGg=; b=ivr8q8vxh9g+cmtzk+xJMAxOwl9BdqIcQ042DXK3m4AXy4dUCzctkcjgmuAdLQ69qt p0eJpxVEXQptBhGcb4f1fUfn2zVFZwGhGiHvtIgiHSx7uW9c+9EQnFZNS3hkpVvmAHhv bGitmOyt3D0VEGlACRu6H7FK2bMpQGzKhLpxUgX9g8Mk1JDu7icJdhW1WXfAy0JtFG43 NHr/tqrYGqdhzpVdPFEklQC1nQlYeW8NRrwSPN6d0425FW9lG4a9aeeWlOxNf+whPklV 4A+h6fYYb+y434UM8FdWqxpun5sqOotCehuMbhkTDLuU9qc9oBrm+8HUrS8UzJvX3hM2 knEA== Message-ID: <50a54552.6156420a.7582.0280@mx.google.com> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 11:41:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? From: "astralmnemonics@gmail.com" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com CC: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Seven Enterprise Gateway (v 2.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119255 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:41:09 +0000 (UTC) Yeah I tend to prefer noise rock like Fugazi and Sonic Youth who improvise with feedback and dissonance, over songs that were written with a specific harmony/tuning being played in super neo tuning -----Original Message----- Date: Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:27:27 am To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "mark francombe" Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? Well thankfully I have never been afflicted by the said disease at all! If you played me a C and told me it was a F I'd believe you, well.. maybe not, but that would be because I would suspect you were up to something and look carefully into your eyes. If Ive done a gig and my G string is a bit out, Ill play on!! Much more important to rock, than to stop and say.. hang on... I think my G string is loose (might get a laugh tho). I think this is an interesting thread, and I actually love the sound of dissonance and note clusters and the subtleties of tuning for effect, But playing conventional music in weird micro tunings (like on the link posted earlier in this thread) just sounds HORRIBLE to my ears... I dont care if its related to the golden mean or the layout of the pyramids of Maya... or exact reproductions of harmonical relationships... The audience thinks your are our of tune dude! Ive been trying to think of a few references to recording that I think are interesting due to weird tunings, and I cant think of one, but there are a few related things. The tremolo bends on "Loveless" (My Blood Valentine of course.. my god they have reformed... cant wait for my ears to bleed again!!) I absolutely adore, one of the best albums ever. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf8j1bUgwJ8&feature=related And I'm still a sucker for the grungy noize of World Domination Enterprise, where the guitarist tuned to a cassette tape of him playing a tuning that he couldnt get from a tuner, apparently he woke up one day to an out of tune guitar, didnt bother tuning it, From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 15 20:32:04 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96DAA183463; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:32:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=exzcEpyy9jLdKDfThVjjmVeNNx1aXIulOmG0SIRHx4k=; b=MZQO8lzGdSyLsjLNIGXLEQv2nIwyalSt8FhDETArzNq3jtKP1HcfEnXK3v2QxHjQJd F2txWo7TNoI2viQLU1wHC8Wk3+ysleeU95t8AT2Navo3NzpBFgZs/Bjlv2BGUj3BeMTE hMb0cCNPMlhbu6KRcf/Jh/bLgEaka8F7Nxf8DSd99Ntl3YtvjOfEkxHy3aWs2ZEcK98E BWuBNVeogVUGUHOTf3tHXI0DDEDh7hykxfwkf3Ubs2nG22iYJaos4dMdVk9oxK4pt7wv ES3/hsWDETg71dD1iawi6oQNIZuFxJSjaQXGLqZhqTThAR/DIM6JYDymn7Q1GHzj7obq Q+IQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <50a54552.6156420a.7582.0280@mx.google.com> References: <50a54552.6156420a.7582.0280@mx.google.com> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 21:32:03 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119256 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:32:04 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, I want to chime on the Sonic Youth argument here! In the eighties when they came out as "the new hardcore thing" I first went - "wait these guys don't know how to tune their guitars" but after a few seconds I just discovered it was the meanest and coolest attitude I'd heard so far. You have to love those aggressively attacked Telecaster guitars where the pitch initially is off (too high dammit!) by almost a quarter note and then the string comes to rest at the intended tuning. That's a cool "micro tonal" effect! And what about singers like David Bowie that misses notes by far and it just makes the music come to live! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 8:41 PM, astralmnemonics@gmail.com wrote: > Yeah I tend to prefer noise rock like Fugazi and Sonic Youth who improvise with feedback and dissonance, over songs that were written with a specific harmony/tuning being played in super neo tuning > -----Original Message----- > Date: Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:27:27 am > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > From: "mark francombe" > Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? > > Well thankfully I have never been afflicted by the said disease at all! If > you played me a C and told me it was a F I'd believe you, well.. maybe not, > but that would be because I would suspect you were up to something and look > carefully into your eyes. > > If Ive done a gig and my G string is a bit out, Ill play on!! Much more > important to rock, than to stop and say.. hang on... I think my G string is > loose (might get a laugh tho). > > I think this is an interesting thread, and I actually love the sound of > dissonance and note clusters and the subtleties of tuning for effect, > But playing conventional music in weird micro tunings (like on the link > posted earlier in this thread) just sounds HORRIBLE to my ears... I dont > care if its related to the golden mean or the layout of the pyramids of > Maya... or exact reproductions of harmonical relationships... The audience > thinks your are our of tune dude! > > Ive been trying to think of a few references to recording that I think are > interesting due to weird tunings, and I cant think of one, but there are a > few related things. > > The tremolo bends on "Loveless" (My Blood Valentine of course.. my god they > have reformed... cant wait for my ears to bleed again!!) I absolutely > adore, one of the best albums ever. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf8j1bUgwJ8&feature=related > And I'm still a sucker for the grungy noize of World Domination Enterprise, > where the guitarist tuned to a cassette tape of him playing a tuning that > he couldnt get from a tuner, apparently he woke up one day to an out of > tune guitar, didnt bother tuning it, > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 15 22:04:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1E2C183474; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 22:04:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=Hp80tXFriPCFfyd66fykdH0iV0h4p/1qJaxvk5zNa+o=; b=BmvSBqt2roOqOHGkRDeb04PgUsC4hmFqkQqnC5VjJ1EZ02lTp73DbeLowME3z/fuAF GSvIHYaVIpwrYBaFhEWEOYvm5KCDwOVekTlVX1JLtLgqWCNOSNXIRajPhJwIgeKO18tP V6I/IquNggEDs9eRv/W+o9tjGvWZvh2FGU7HMFwlaAtad/3Mp9domIzMxAHN8nu88RRa iu5PNriW6G3SrNKsGjHzQm668HqZz39R3Arf6jmI8SVoBSJOen1vEGtEBtgllawzyt4C movPZQ8oXvbxmckm/Pdrt9GfVOj5Q60T+0LFOtyanZsTCiPD/+tDAGdoF6O/jbGe9kVL Y98Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <50a54552.6156420a.7582.0280@mx.google.com> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 23:04:18 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ZbPvxu1dcT7poGy-hrBs2k1mcAk Message-ID: Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b343e2a56d16e04ce8fd6a9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119257 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 22:04:39 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b343e2a56d16e04ce8fd6a9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:32 PM, the birthday boy> wrote: You have to love those aggressively attacked Telecaster guitars where the pitch initially is off TOTALLY!! Wanna say that Sonic Youth ae the only band I have ever seen who trashed their gear on the first song of the set... 15 minute break while techs set up amps again, and Thurston climbed out of the mosh pit.. ha ha This is getting a bit away from "tuning" however, but there no doubt that theres lts of "effecyt" in discrete bends. Its a technique I have use all my life, always LOVED whammy bars, and bent notes. I have always considered all those positions "between frets" as options, and have always tried to play quite fluidly, using bends almost likes slides (never been able to handle a bottleneck in Bill Walker way, but always have a spanner handy). I just spent a egotistical half hour trying to find tracks by Cranes on Spotify where I did some bending, and discovered I used it much more than I even remember! I think its a mixture of always liking that surf guitar tremelo bigsby twang, and at the same time trying all sorts of techniques to try to NOT sound like a guitar! M On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Yeah, I want to chime on the Sonic Youth argument here! In the > eighties when they came out as "the new hardcore thing" I first went - > "wait these guys don't know how to tune their guitars" but after a few > seconds I just discovered it was the meanest and coolest attitude I'd > heard so far. You have to love those aggressively attacked Telecaster > guitars where the pitch initially is off (too high dammit!) by almost > a quarter note and then the string comes to rest at the intended > tuning. That's a cool "micro tonal" effect! And what about singers > like David Bowie that misses notes by far and it just makes the music > come to live! > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 8:41 PM, astralmnemonics@gmail.com > wrote: > > Yeah I tend to prefer noise rock like Fugazi and Sonic Youth who > improvise with feedback and dissonance, over songs that were written with a > specific harmony/tuning being played in super neo tuning > > -----Original Message----- > > Date: Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:27:27 am > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > From: "mark francombe" > > Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? > > > > Well thankfully I have never been afflicted by the said disease at all! > If > > you played me a C and told me it was a F I'd believe you, well.. maybe > not, > > but that would be because I would suspect you were up to something and > look > > carefully into your eyes. > > > > If Ive done a gig and my G string is a bit out, Ill play on!! Much more > > important to rock, than to stop and say.. hang on... I think my G string > is > > loose (might get a laugh tho). > > > > I think this is an interesting thread, and I actually love the sound of > > dissonance and note clusters and the subtleties of tuning for effect, > > But playing conventional music in weird micro tunings (like on the link > > posted earlier in this thread) just sounds HORRIBLE to my ears... I dont > > care if its related to the golden mean or the layout of the pyramids of > > Maya... or exact reproductions of harmonical relationships... The > audience > > thinks your are our of tune dude! > > > > Ive been trying to think of a few references to recording that I think > are > > interesting due to weird tunings, and I cant think of one, but there are > a > > few related things. > > > > The tremolo bends on "Loveless" (My Blood Valentine of course.. my god > they > > have reformed... cant wait for my ears to bleed again!!) I absolutely > > adore, one of the best albums ever. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf8j1bUgwJ8&feature=related > > And I'm still a sucker for the grungy noize of World Domination > Enterprise, > > where the guitarist tuned to a cassette tape of him playing a tuning that > > he couldnt get from a tuner, apparently he woke up one day to an out of > > tune guitar, didnt bother tuning it, > > > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b343e2a56d16e04ce8fd6a9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:32 PM, the birthday boy> wrote:
You have to love those aggressively attacked Telecaster
guitars where the pitch initially is off

TOTALLY!! Wanna say that So= nic Youth ae the only band I have ever seen who trashed their gear on the f= irst song of the set... 15 minute break while techs set up amps again, and = Thurston climbed out of the mosh pit.. ha ha

This is getting a bit away from "tuning" however, but there n= o doubt that theres lts of "effecyt" in discrete bends. Its a tec= hnique I have use all my life, always LOVED whammy bars, and bent notes. I = have always considered all those positions "between frets" as opt= ions, and have always tried to play quite fluidly, using bends almost likes= slides (never been able to handle a bottleneck in Bill Walker way, but alw= ays have a spanner handy).

I just spent a egotistical half hour trying to find tracks=A0 by Cranes= on Spotify where I did some bending, and discovered I used it much more th= an I even remember! I think its a mixture of always liking that surf guitar= tremelo bigsby twang, and at the same time trying all sorts of techniques = to try to NOT sound like a guitar!

M


On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:32 PM= , Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, I want to chime on the Sonic Youth argument here! In the
eighties when they came out as "the new hardcore thing" I first w= ent -
"wait these guys don't know how to tune their guitars" but af= ter a few
seconds I just discovered it was the meanest and coolest attitude I'd heard so far. =A0You have to love those aggressively attacked Telecaster guitars where the pitch initially is off (too high dammit!) by almost
a quarter note and then the string comes to rest at the intended
tuning. That's a cool "micro tonal" effect! =A0And what about= singers
like David Bowie that misses notes by far and it just makes the music
come to live!

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.y= outube.com/perboysen


On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 8:41 PM, astralmnemonics@gmail.com
<astralmnemonics@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
> Yeah I tend to prefer noise rock like Fugazi and Sonic Youth who impro= vise with feedback and dissonance, over songs that were written with a spec= ific harmony/tuning being played in super neo tuning
> -----Original Message-----
> Date: Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:27:27 am
> To: Loopers-Del= ight@loopers-delight.com
> From: "mark francombe" <mark@markfrancombe.com>
> Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz?
>
> Well thankfully I have never been afflicted by the said disease at all= ! If
> you played me a C and told me it was a F I'd believe you, well.. m= aybe not,
> but that would be because I would suspect you were up to something and= look
> carefully into your eyes.
>
> If Ive done a gig and my G string is a bit out, Ill play on!! Much mor= e
> important to rock, than to stop and say.. hang on... I think my G stri= ng is
> loose (might get a laugh tho).
>
> I think this is an interesting thread, and I actually love the sound o= f
> dissonance and note clusters and the subtleties of tuning for effect,<= br> > But playing conventional music in weird micro tunings (like on the lin= k
> posted earlier in this thread) just sounds HORRIBLE to my ears... I do= nt
> care if its related to the golden mean or the layout of the pyramids o= f
> Maya... or exact reproductions of harmonical relationships... The audi= ence
> thinks your are our of tune dude!
>
> Ive been trying to think of a few references to recording that I think= are
> interesting due to weird tunings, and I cant think of one, but there a= re a
> few related things.
>
> The tremolo bends on "Loveless" (My Blood Valentine of cours= e.. my god they
> have reformed... cant wait for my ears to bleed again!!) I absolutely<= br> > adore, one of the best albums ever.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DLf8j1bUgwJ8&= ;feature=3Drelated
> And I'm still a sucker for the grungy noize of World Domination En= terprise,
> where the guitarist tuned to a cassette tape of him playing a tuning t= hat
> he couldnt get from a tuner, apparently he woke up one day to an out o= f
> tune guitar, didnt bother tuning it,
>




--
= Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
<= /font>
--047d7b343e2a56d16e04ce8fd6a9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 15 22:05:01 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 505C4183479; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 22:05:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <50A56709.4030900@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 17:04:57 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen to Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119258 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 22:05:01 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EST/GMT-5 on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on Palancar. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Ambient Train Wreck Series Volume Two" on Blue Water Records. The Special Focus page is at: http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#oct You will also hear music by artists who will play at area concerts such as the Soundscapes Concert Series on December 2. http://soundscapes.us Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 16 05:04:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF729183453; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 05:04:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=p9dZHpxXy2cfrJzwih1KmMZEgmvt9DkNHUfXxgWZpZE=; b=WwfrXlYhuZyKNIQKH3wQh/sIrBv6jwjNWrHo2jI0t7ka0KKY+7VRZe88rHKuTHK1Pe ZPeWzKK7b57RPhwV2T/Cyhq7ulG147RAK5l3iMbKETp0dngyhhL1frXKpNkdn/zSKbkg hO5rjID7zT8HWdsVIalH9oNZ7/ETP3rO7Ga+kvcQfImQxWfmlc7i7SNBLrdt6fJ/OnnL 4cfGbP+SuB49dPAFD3v0d7N+BYbeFgiy+OKyAjwa128+m3TMTMrWRNSlM1pIfbnyZKl4 1Zvi8zsKeMjKcxPJhLC2uNX9Hl8GW8sQzRTQQnQExZoZqzpFNxLwn6FV/X5nmrBL1VL8 kLjw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <50a54552.6156420a.7582.0280@mx.google.com> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 21:04:09 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? From: Ben Edwards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3a7feca4575104ce95b248 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119259 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 05:04:11 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b3a7feca4575104ce95b248 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 "This is getting a bit away from "tuning" however," Are you talking about Sonic Youth? They used numerous tunings and had many guitars set for specific songs. This website has some of that information : http://www.sonicyouth.com/mustang/tab/tuning.html On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:04 PM, mark francombe wrote: > On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:32 PM, the birthday boy> wrote: > You have to love those aggressively attacked Telecaster > guitars where the pitch initially is off > > TOTALLY!! Wanna say that Sonic Youth ae the only band I have ever seen who > trashed their gear on the first song of the set... 15 minute break while > techs set up amps again, and Thurston climbed out of the mosh pit.. ha ha > > This is getting a bit away from "tuning" however, but there no doubt that > theres lts of "effecyt" in discrete bends. Its a technique I have use all > my life, always LOVED whammy bars, and bent notes. I have always considered > all those positions "between frets" as options, and have always tried to > play quite fluidly, using bends almost likes slides (never been able to > handle a bottleneck in Bill Walker way, but always have a spanner handy). > > I just spent a egotistical half hour trying to find tracks by Cranes on > Spotify where I did some bending, and discovered I used it much more than I > even remember! I think its a mixture of always liking that surf guitar > tremelo bigsby twang, and at the same time trying all sorts of techniques > to try to NOT sound like a guitar! > > M > > > > On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> Yeah, I want to chime on the Sonic Youth argument here! In the >> eighties when they came out as "the new hardcore thing" I first went - >> "wait these guys don't know how to tune their guitars" but after a few >> seconds I just discovered it was the meanest and coolest attitude I'd >> heard so far. You have to love those aggressively attacked Telecaster >> guitars where the pitch initially is off (too high dammit!) by almost >> a quarter note and then the string comes to rest at the intended >> tuning. That's a cool "micro tonal" effect! And what about singers >> like David Bowie that misses notes by far and it just makes the music >> come to live! >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.perboysen.com >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 8:41 PM, astralmnemonics@gmail.com >> wrote: >> > Yeah I tend to prefer noise rock like Fugazi and Sonic Youth who >> improvise with feedback and dissonance, over songs that were written with a >> specific harmony/tuning being played in super neo tuning >> > -----Original Message----- >> > Date: Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:27:27 am >> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> > From: "mark francombe" >> > Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? >> > >> > Well thankfully I have never been afflicted by the said disease at all! >> If >> > you played me a C and told me it was a F I'd believe you, well.. maybe >> not, >> > but that would be because I would suspect you were up to something and >> look >> > carefully into your eyes. >> > >> > If Ive done a gig and my G string is a bit out, Ill play on!! Much more >> > important to rock, than to stop and say.. hang on... I think my G >> string is >> > loose (might get a laugh tho). >> > >> > I think this is an interesting thread, and I actually love the sound of >> > dissonance and note clusters and the subtleties of tuning for effect, >> > But playing conventional music in weird micro tunings (like on the link >> > posted earlier in this thread) just sounds HORRIBLE to my ears... I dont >> > care if its related to the golden mean or the layout of the pyramids of >> > Maya... or exact reproductions of harmonical relationships... The >> audience >> > thinks your are our of tune dude! >> > >> > Ive been trying to think of a few references to recording that I think >> are >> > interesting due to weird tunings, and I cant think of one, but there >> are a >> > few related things. >> > >> > The tremolo bends on "Loveless" (My Blood Valentine of course.. my god >> they >> > have reformed... cant wait for my ears to bleed again!!) I absolutely >> > adore, one of the best albums ever. >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf8j1bUgwJ8&feature=related >> > And I'm still a sucker for the grungy noize of World Domination >> Enterprise, >> > where the guitarist tuned to a cassette tape of him playing a tuning >> that >> > he couldnt get from a tuner, apparently he woke up one day to an out of >> > tune guitar, didnt bother tuning it, >> > >> >> > > > -- > *Mark Francombe* > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ > > --047d7b3a7feca4575104ce95b248 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "This is getting a bit away from "tuning" however,"
=
Are you talking about Sonic Youth?=A0 They used numerous tunings and ha= d many guitars set for specific songs.=A0 This website has some of that inf= ormation : ht= tp://www.sonicyouth.com/mustang/tab/tuning.html


On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:04 PM, mark fr= ancombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:32 PM, the birthday boy> wrote:
You have to love those aggressively attacke= d Telecaster
guitars where the pitch initially is off

TOTALLY!! Wanna say t= hat Sonic Youth ae the only band I have ever seen who trashed their gear on= the first song of the set... 15 minute break while techs set up amps again= , and Thurston climbed out of the mosh pit.. ha ha

This is getting a bit away from "tuning" however, but there n= o doubt that theres lts of "effecyt" in discrete bends. Its a tec= hnique I have use all my life, always LOVED whammy bars, and bent notes. I = have always considered all those positions "between frets" as opt= ions, and have always tried to play quite fluidly, using bends almost likes= slides (never been able to handle a bottleneck in Bill Walker way, but alw= ays have a spanner handy).

I just spent a egotistical half hour trying to find tracks=A0 by Cranes= on Spotify where I did some bending, and discovered I used it much more th= an I even remember! I think its a mixture of always liking that surf guitar= tremelo bigsby twang, and at the same time trying all sorts of techniques = to try to NOT sound like a guitar!

M



On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Per Boysen <perb= oysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, I want to chime on the Sonic Youth argument here! In the
eighties when they came out as "the new hardcore thing" I first w= ent -
"wait these guys don't know how to tune their guitars" but af= ter a few
seconds I just discovered it was the meanest and coolest attitude I'd heard so far. =A0You have to love those aggressively attacked Telecaster guitars where the pitch initially is off (too high dammit!) by almost
a quarter note and then the string comes to rest at the intended
tuning. That's a cool "micro tonal" effect! =A0And what about= singers
like David Bowie that misses notes by far and it just makes the music
come to live!

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.y= outube.com/perboysen


On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 8:41 PM, astralmnemonics@gmail.com
<astralmn= emonics@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah I tend to prefer noise rock like Fugazi and Sonic Youth who impro= vise with feedback and dissonance, over songs that were written with a spec= ific harmony/tuning being played in super neo tuning
> -----Original Message-----
> Date: Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:27:27 am
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> From: "mark francombe" <mark@markfrancombe.com>
> Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz?
>
> Well thankfully I have never been afflicted by the said disease at all= ! If
> you played me a C and told me it was a F I'd believe you, well.. m= aybe not,
> but that would be because I would suspect you were up to something and= look
> carefully into your eyes.
>
> If Ive done a gig and my G string is a bit out, Ill play on!! Much mor= e
> important to rock, than to stop and say.. hang on... I think my G stri= ng is
> loose (might get a laugh tho).
>
> I think this is an interesting thread, and I actually love the sound o= f
> dissonance and note clusters and the subtleties of tuning for effect,<= br> > But playing conventional music in weird micro tunings (like on the lin= k
> posted earlier in this thread) just sounds HORRIBLE to my ears... I do= nt
> care if its related to the golden mean or the layout of the pyramids o= f
> Maya... or exact reproductions of harmonical relationships... The audi= ence
> thinks your are our of tune dude!
>
> Ive been trying to think of a few references to recording that I think= are
> interesting due to weird tunings, and I cant think of one, but there a= re a
> few related things.
>
> The tremolo bends on "Loveless" (My Blood Valentine of cours= e.. my god they
> have reformed... cant wait for my ears to bleed again!!) I absolutely<= br> > adore, one of the best albums ever.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DLf8j1bUgwJ8&= ;feature=3Drelated
> And I'm still a sucker for the grungy noize of World Domination En= terprise,
> where the guitarist tuned to a cassette tape of him playing a tuning t= hat
> he couldnt get from a tuner, apparently he woke up one day to an out o= f
> tune guitar, didnt bother tuning it,
>





--047d7b3a7feca4575104ce95b248-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 16 09:30:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B99B18345D; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 09:30:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 817108246/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.113.120/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.113.120 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApIBAN0GplBPRnF4/2dsb2JhbAANN8VyAQEBAwE4QAYLCyEWDwkDAgECAUUcAYgDqiqTVo4XgycDm1SNWg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.83,263,1352073600"; d="scan'208";a="817108246" Message-ID: <50A607DC.8010000@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 09:31:08 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? References: <50a51893.665a420a.030d.076e@mx.google.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119260 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 09:30:51 +0000 (UTC) Daniel Thomas wrote: > Its true that Western ears hear so called micro-tunings as out of tune. Agree: yes, even some of those who play "out" music. It's just unfamiliarity, (it took me years to "get" Thai classical music.) Disagree: church organ, violin/viol family, choral, orchestra(if no piano involved) none of those play in equal temperament, and they aren't known for out of tuneness. It's a "textbook/academic thing" that equal temperament is(or was ever) ubiquitous, not even Bach used it. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 16 11:48:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F185F18345B; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 11:48:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=dttppmOS4bRiz0a98YEk0RonA6UCFHie8TR/c9KtxG0=; b=0YVg5h4I13lcKOlfv6nps5UtSCeLFBmb9vCZmIy7T/prPvp/ki+cAXvg+q0NTpJRYq lEI61DDP3B22FSMh/S0M7GPE8tXMwMVYbNYDJc+esnj6c5tEvVYe7N07H0FE/Ous4qxz bVUVvcTEQE+QEyTAdXvQRSeuTHIEmk2y3QXCcy7BxC+B2OiumvcwEat37/sjrp+EfZMu UKc2cgFP+RQpFFC/+ckHpjaqsTUf43LQRGCsioHjPR07eFx25uDcohMVRnjtf7QruB1a 6D1HIR3gJ97pch0TOFORWXEcuf3mjhOoeoPum/7f23qaTQiDa/5k0JufDIxvTFJQQovR 1S5g== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <50a54552.6156420a.7582.0280@mx.google.com> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 12:48:47 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119261 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 11:48:48 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 6:04 AM, Ben Edwards wrote: > Are you talking about Sonic Youth? They used numerous tunings and had many > guitars set for specific songs. This website has some of that information : > http://www.sonicyouth.com/mustang/tab/tuning.html Interesting tuning page, but I was rather talking about microtonal tuning of guitars, often referred to as "out of tune". Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 16 17:07:09 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C0EF18345B; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 17:07:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 259954.29541.bm@omp1007.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1353085626; bh=KlPwm3rUJsJwr05jn+AFIoT1g9SOVEX6nmlVhlun+Nk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=WVQ5McpKz5GaMqJmhLsbPs9C5BTPhfQcJxjPcN/C2LY/Pboe7ur37YycHXPJOMKjzDjuyA+MlwjyXGWzBYmsBSixPqIVVjORoVRntJ0dpdhi3MYdLFN0vesrowwNG3UwGi2jtUpYZ2R3k2ajgE9fdEnjwam6yxAQqwauFeJUo5c= X-YMail-OSG: MY.bbBEVM1k05iyi8njhGH2Tq4obN9AxHOPhwj2JSYSfOns TILTeaBEmATXpI7gVZIfuiMueRK_DL.nHL9Eo9UjiF6Wf4tpJJTkdDqgpcB6 oQSPvUt6.38r3dPS.CY1Peq1fVm6kQKYr0tmznf3C94qfe_fqhKK7u0kWImb 2DShydtrF5PryUVF5mSEZy.6c50NPrKG2v5u03leDiZ7a3maL_hf8RwVJIQ6 NWKMU5o49u2xTgE_80ibZHlfoTY3nPc6TFHowRLBJ3W5CYYVueugxRxF_m5a .raAIDmCLTe9DJ395RNxx4wbLZnho03DuSRMAcb4EfBwHzOkU60nXOw6wE.y Btb_FD0HFfzyksLowVq0Gm2oulsYzntCiPQUioFKNQPY2Z_LdtFZNSuaevrU R561myjAXwrZWqUo.IKka1nBIgomxGtjMnqzu64dWzLYAqvIDpzdVBP_Vp03 xLA6TOQvz0HiS3a4QlIdL4Tf2opJrM50EQmbi6y0jxl3CrGc8M3bUhfzU6DR 2lECfczNZPchldgumn3vKTDe5WZPGNsKyy9v2vshRXW5uWPExjw45h34ifqk 6pWfKRcH.sUXyFCvYFz7KZJYTTYRFPCBQfL2Fr9eZkMScfMu.T3g.YOlzabr FSWcTLQMxUW8LeuAD_hU8MXVkGCyK2ZYKxFHSoKlFSGPHDkQh_90tE_xXp6G aJuqFj9UycSDqwHaV6rkwqhQJjMoNjc1WC00klHY694J6fA9C9PQXPiZ0vhy XQ3hKShFURAfjVVUHy8Xh37W3gI6cB8UoxXREm4wOOwDIIoNCjW6QpWFVNzG 09RfH11mF0XFBmlCYe3wGh4xbEISLT0k4R9az9adpDIIC2OWOMsbUDqSsPyE 7Hi7a3vgaAWjzXhZilWCgHuCchiE- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,CiJMaXZlIERlYWQiIGlzIHByb2JhYmx5IHRoZSBiZXN0IGV4YW1wbGUgb2YgaW50ZW50aW9uYWxseSB0dW5pbmcgdGhlIGd1aXRhciAid3JvbmciIGluIGRpZmZlcmVudCB3YXlzIHRvIHN1aXQgZWFjaCBzb25nLgoKQmVsYXRlZCBoYXBweSBiaXJ0aGRheSwgYnkgdGhlIHdheS4KClRpbSBNdW5nZW5hc3QKRWRpdG9yL1dyaXRlci9Qcm9vZnJlYWRlcjogd3d3LmxpbmtlZGluLmNvbS9pbi90aW1tdW5nZW5hc3QKR3VpdGFyaXN0L0NvbXBvc2VyL1ZvY2FsaXN0OiB3d3cucmV2ZXJibmF0aW9uLmNvbS90aW1tdW4BMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.460 Message-ID: <1353085626.54318.YahooMailClassic@web84517.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 09:07:06 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Mungenast Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119262 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 17:07:08 +0000 (UTC) =0A"Live Dead" is probably the best example of intentionally tuning the gui= tar "wrong" in different ways to suit each song.=0A=0ABelated happy birthda= y, by the way.=0A=0ATim Mungenast=0AEditor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin= .com/in/timmungenast=0AGuitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/ti= mmungenast=0A=0A=0A--- On Fri, 11/16/12, Per Boysen w= rote:=0A=0A> From: Per Boysen =0A> Subject: Re: A =3D = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz?=0A> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Date: Fri= day, November 16, 2012, 6:48 AM=0A> On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 6:04 AM, Ben=0A= > Edwards =0A> wrote:=0A> > Are you talking abou= t Sonic Youth?=A0 They used=0A> numerous tunings and had many=0A> > guitars= set for specific songs.=A0 This website has=0A> some of that information := =0A> > http://www.sonicyouth.com/mustang/tab/tuning.html=0A> =0A> Interesti= ng tuning page, but I was rather talking about=0A> microtonal=0A> tuning of= guitars, often referred to as "out of tune".=0A> =0A> Greetings from Swede= n=0A> =0A> Per Boysen=0A> www.perboysen.com=0A> http://www.youtube.com/perb= oysen=0A> =0A> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 16 17:29:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E75CF183453; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 17:29:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:subject:from:to:cc:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer; bh=BMW3MeUIxfdT4Ky8Rgrk8JgbvfnKSdPtpKu4uBg68no=; b=WgHao3qpAHJ3ZvHtT8w/Z0sw6u8ll1IkciTjd0TdKPXng3S2GSZJK9Jz5iXTBOUoNz GMsXWQFrWIsM0l/kKO8a9f5XJpoYiWNkmH6J9xaugll2PESCkmkXc98LjsAsKtlWMcCD EGOOpeZ6nueRCcZ6IWFCHPkqwaQ2sXY4o5C9485aayuF+wFIp1C/EqLfdA2h6ExsSX7i 9YROQvCHEXk5EMXm5QnwS0qIWdHPn0Bc5KJ83aqu1eYWhKJqQZpDTzH8RDBGCdFPicF0 vfDZ3+rVVsXyMjdkNwCDG8kEDoXTKUyFQnRCupHhmvfaJk0Of29GkjBXLz5INQ/hAzlZ E9Cg== Message-ID: <50a677fc.48e8440a.5238.ffff8b77@mx.google.com> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 09:29:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? From: "astralmnemonics@gmail.com" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com CC: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Seven Enterprise Gateway (v 2.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119263 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 17:29:35 +0000 (UTC) I think part of the ''out of tune'' perception can be attributed to guitars being tuned radically to the point of intonation stretching. I had a bit of this issue when I tuned my guitar to Robert Fripp's tuning in 5ths for the first time. I think the fanned fret system by Ralph Novak might end up being an elegant solution that I've already seen show up on Charlie Hunter's 7 string bass/guitar hybrid and the Mobius Megatar tapping Stick like instrument. -----Original Message----- Date: Friday, November 16, 2012 3:48:56 am To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Per Boysen" Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 6:04 AM, Ben Edwards wrote: > Are you talking about Sonic Youth? They used numerous tunings and had many > guitars set for specific songs. This website has some of that information : > http://www.sonicyouth.com/mustang/tab/tuning.html Interesting tuning page, but I was rather talking about microtonal tuning of guitars, often referred to as "out of tune". Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 16 18:38:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B262B183452; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 18:38:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:subject:from:to:cc:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer; bh=sWzjKX54dQFcdxtOIx3Vs4zg/hUbkPmYZg7tiDEuaaQ=; b=wLA/bjSd08Nc8Ewni8L3cwb/i0T9y9ymUp5IIdcrv8/eGVGPyNStEkACSoQ/V1USGN fUn0xq3YqayKPttTw3+dI/vnP1Nj+Vz59EBrAoSIzKxEX89VNGmlp9dS4LkKhC2PaHwe 5i5CtXnnx5lM1mpxXcJYpBihHK0rPICGqB1TElFd26wCTCXck4fIsTTf38l5Pn2yY8i0 N0aL33/2EFSmtslaBpZ9yp1FB5Qqd7CMzDogKoe+7g9rHLUQcoFg5S97PlfUEWGy1lgW jKeYNwUiH1AsQEaShLsdnJDUtAAeKp2jfFf6JQgH0hzgQc+X3NIIiruLJjDuJbkgAOd8 rGcQ== Message-ID: <50a6881c.e64a420a.19e9.7c55@mx.google.com> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 10:38:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? From: "astralmnemonics@gmail.com" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com CC: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Seven Enterprise Gateway (v 2.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119264 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 18:38:23 +0000 (UTC) I think we're going to need some sub clarification to keep this conversation going so others can join in a logical fashion. 1. Pitch in Hz for overall tuning, 440Hz, 432Hz, 444... Why standard? Science? 2. Tunings themselves as ratios of the harmonics of the octave and how they effect the intonation of an instrument and cause microtonal qualities to emerge 3. Micro tonality as a technique to transcend the ''limitations'' of tuning, slides, bends, whammy bar 4. How this can be applied to looping to create interesting music thanks, I've really enjoyed the wisdom and knowledge on this forum -Ben -----Original Message----- Date: Friday, November 16, 2012 1:31:10 am To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "andy butler" Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? Daniel Thomas wrote: > Its true that Western ears hear so called micro-tunings as out of tune. Agree: yes, even some of those who play "out" music. It's just unfamiliarity, (it took me years to "get" Thai classical music.) Disagree: church organ, violin/viol family, choral, orchestra(if no piano involved) none of those play in equal temperament, and they aren't known for out of tuneness. It's a "textbook/academic thing" that equal temperament is(or was ever) ubiquitous, not even Bach used it. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 16 19:08:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 807C2183463; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:08:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+Tl9hLpTu0wpAukZD0cp+8aKRf35uCX0ZbbMPR2+iqM=; b=YvjAQm7re30LrRQ0N/FfUEWUA1rvO1dv+Wz0upXDlq9lhuaFK+dRM1c6/21LV/Hfb/ M9ze5rXW+nDvJ1z7bk87cD3Zgo8yeIsYDFsFDJzuMyz5RccLCmbTuPWbNsqr9x0sGWHY nLWcp4CHJnb2oN2SaVvrT+rDH4i3+VFicdJ8TBT0wNRrPUsiZRQukVepBPADSnS/almo zH8cCfDKEYXGDsOkj4j6Fkk5krVAP/vNmi+tMjRoOYXl1CuhUwkMVcWBKYxMjpYQfC03 5Ry4QbvJcMPoWZENU1eq8qAzS9C9O7EeZldh6dmxDHszAHIzMbPZmG+YACYy4z3Bj/wZ AVrg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 11:08:07 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: unsubscribe From: Alexandre Klinke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bb03e68e6782804cea17cab Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119265 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:08:08 +0000 (UTC) --047d7bb03e68e6782804cea17cab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 unsubscribe --047d7bb03e68e6782804cea17cab Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 unsubscribe --047d7bb03e68e6782804cea17cab-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 16 19:41:58 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83615183477; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:41:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jzXpzSLvAftloveaFPPXC/5w+/AMMdNb0LdO6XDyJ8o=; b=mx6hW8OzeWhxjKtYV3aZalguVeBZKXMm6pOIdqXIA6cQxMqw99Tzpm2n4wW6l3hnxM ZWp+A8J2HRrJ/jcMjaZrRhLAtg27QIDTtjbXD41d2p0tpXOk5JfrvgY5X46iV/jOUhxB x7OBIDFagqqbmejV53yQlhp2BPh6U5p/U4PX1svsOTDsHwfnm5P2TCFBsW4Sk5XUPYhR HccsFUR9nrVj8aS1SRqQhemEc7NsecxUgJPN3alKJxfX1FdbMJWtcyhbQR0ETZBPwBI/ 0yXrw37NA7LNEduiBH7Z4TNXQyvTiRSEcZMrdc4QSNga4LUMJ6UO+s++WIjgSYZyI1th v/KQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 14:41:56 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Electric Cello Looping Holiday EP From: Wytold Lebing To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d042f92f0d999a404cea1f5ba Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119266 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:41:57 +0000 (UTC) --f46d042f92f0d999a404cea1f5ba Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Everyone, I'm just releasing a short EP of looped electric cello holiday mash-ups, that you can listen to here . First of all, just wanted to share the tunes :) But also - does anyone have suggestions for bloggers/reviewers/whoever that may want to cover/share/write on this kind of thing? Thanks for your help!! PS - The thing I thought was niftiest on this EP is that in the first track - the mix of Carol of the Bells with O Holy Night - I have a rock-out kind of groove going on around 2:45 where the loops are in 6/8. At 3:15, I've taken a 9/8 cut of two consecutive groups of the original 6/8 loops (I usually perform with the Boss RC-300, but this operation pushed the song over to requiring my Ableton setup). I was psyched when I came up with it and wanted to share it here because, well, there just aren't that many people out there who understand that excitement :) Best, *Wytold Strathmore Artist in Residence * www.Wytold.com www.facebook.com/Wytold --f46d042f92f0d999a404cea1f5ba Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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PS - The thing I thought was niftiest on this EP is that in the first = track - the mix of Carol of the Bells with O Holy Night - I have a rock-out= kind of groove going on around 2:45 where the loops are in 6/8.=A0 At 3:15= , I've taken a 9/8 cut of two consecutive groups of the original 6/8 lo= ops (I usually perform with the Boss RC-300, but this operation pushed the = song over to requiring my Ableton setup).=A0 I was psyched when I came up w= ith it and wanted to share it here because, well, there just aren't tha= t many people out there who understand that excitement :)
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Epic arrangements, great job- Steve Uccello=0A=0Awww.cl= arifiedbirds.com=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Wytold L= ebing =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =0A= Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 11:41 AM=0ASubject: Electric Cello Looping = Holiday EP=0A =0A=0AHi Everyone,=0A=A0=0AI'm just releasing a short EP of l= ooped electric cello holiday mash-ups, that you can listen to here.=A0 Firs= t of all, just wanted to share the tunes :) But also - does anyone have sug= gestions for bloggers/reviewers/whoever that may want to cover/share/write = on this kind of thing?=0A=A0=0AThanks for your help!!=0A=A0=0APS - The thin= g I thought was niftiest on this EP is that in the first track - the mix of= Carol of the Bells with O Holy Night - I have a rock-out kind of groove go= ing on around 2:45 where the loops are in 6/8.=A0 At 3:15, I've taken a 9/8= cut of two consecutive groups of the original 6/8 loops (I usually perform= with the Boss RC-300, but this operation pushed the song over to requiring= my Ableton setup).=A0 I was psyched when I came up with it and wanted to s= hare it here because, well, there just aren't that many people out there wh= o understand that excitement :)=0A=A0=0ABest,=0AWytold=0AStrathmore Artist = in Residence=0A=0Awww.Wytold.comwww.facebook.com/Wytold --1402361269-140394304-1353097319=:75639 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sounds nice Wytold! E= pic arrangements, great job- Steve Uccello

<= span>www.clarifiedbirds.com

=
From: Wytold Lebing <wytoldmus= ic@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 11:41 AM
Subject: Electric Cello Looping Holiday = EP

Hi Everyone,
= =0A
 
=0A
I'm just releasing a short EP of looped electri= c cello holiday mash-ups, that you can listen to here.  Firs= t of all, just wanted to share the tunes :) But also - does anyone have sug= gestions for bloggers/reviewers/whoever that may want to cover/share/write = on this kind of thing?
=0A=0A
 
=0A
Thanks for your = help!!
=0A
 
=0A
PS - The thing I thought was niftie= st on this EP is that in the first track - the mix of Carol of the Bells wi= th O Holy Night - I have a rock-out kind of groove going on around 2:45 whe= re the loops are in 6/8.  At 3:15, I've taken a 9/8 cut of two consecu= tive groups of the original 6/8 loops (I usually perform with the Boss RC-3= 00, but this operation pushed the song over to requiring my Ableton setup).=   I was psyched when I came up with it and wanted to share it here bec= ause, well, there just aren't that many people out there who understand tha= t excitement :)
=0A=0A
 
Best,
=0A
Wytold
<= i>Strathmore Artist in Residence
=0A

=
--1402361269-140394304-1353097319=:75639-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 16 20:31:09 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D4B3183465; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 20:31:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=0a+/78FPEbp5J8M4Zo3RBuQBudlpZzJ1MiPploQKvm8=; b=j2jADIng2iAGan1I+lcEYR8XzxsjXhPFUD5m3VoXnowAj6uYIQwEDcIuNWb0Yj4bMx XG5jdjiwcFIOLy6X7DNdxIFMofB3Ky9bQjv7eSgERQaTB3rEO0Jtf3asVLsleUTSPhoj SpOYYXttzrB4A+sVCPW3O6lRBaROA3+52+op1AT3QK63SUkoWdPyRMF4trImfwYp18TY fqSzrgaklqqunh06V90HunzNNecBp2X7hIQPuyYzkeNO5sedEUHhy5A10ivS4BRhhtZ8 CQAzsBElKTiCMxEPIGAMPS8TeJ22bAboI5IufjAvZiFcMtE5vdTbaujTlIAfaoZ6LHrp NOLg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1353097319.75639.YahooMailNeo@web121201.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1353097319.75639.YahooMailNeo@web121201.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 15:31:06 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electric Cello Looping Holiday EP From: Wytold Lebing To: Steve Uccello Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b2e3fa8b3076404cea2a58b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119269 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 20:31:08 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b2e3fa8b3076404cea2a58b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks Steve! Hah yeah, epic is a good word for the arrangements :) On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Steve Uccello wrote: > Sounds nice Wytold! Epic arrangements, great job- Steve Uccello > > www.clarifiedbirds.com > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Wytold Lebing > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Friday, November 16, 2012 11:41 AM > *Subject:* Electric Cello Looping Holiday EP > > Hi Everyone, > > I'm just releasing a short EP of looped electric cello holiday mash-ups, > that you can listen to here . First > of all, just wanted to share the tunes :) But also - does anyone have > suggestions for bloggers/reviewers/whoever that may want to > cover/share/write on this kind of thing? > > Thanks for your help!! > > PS - The thing I thought was niftiest on this EP is that in the first > track - the mix of Carol of the Bells with O Holy Night - I have a rock-out > kind of groove going on around 2:45 where the loops are in 6/8. At 3:15, > I've taken a 9/8 cut of two consecutive groups of the original 6/8 loops (I > usually perform with the Boss RC-300, but this operation pushed the song > over to requiring my Ableton setup). I was psyched when I came up with it > and wanted to share it here because, well, there just aren't that many > people out there who understand that excitement :) > > Best, > *Wytold > Strathmore Artist in Residence > * > www.Wytold.com > www.facebook.com/Wytold > > > > > -- *Wytold Strathmore Artist in Residence * www.Wytold.com www.facebook.com/Wytold --047d7b2e3fa8b3076404cea2a58b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Steve!=A0 Hah yeah, epic is a good word for the arrangements=A0:)
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Steve Uccello <= span dir=3D"ltr"><stevebassbird@yahoo.com> wrote:
Sounds nice Wytold! Epic arrangements, great job- Steve Uccello<= /span>


From: Wytold Lebing <wytoldmusic@gmail.co= m>
To: Loopers-Delig= ht@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2= 012 11:41 AM
Subject: Ele= ctric Cello Looping Holiday EP

Hi Everyone,
=A0
I'm just releasing a short EP of looped electric cello holiday mas= h-ups, that you can listen to here.=A0 First of all, just wanted = to share the tunes :) But also - does anyone have suggestions for bloggers/= reviewers/whoever that may want to cover/share/write on this kind of thing?=
=A0
Thanks for your help!!
=A0
PS - The thing I thought was niftiest on this EP is that in the first = track - the mix of Carol of the Bells with O Holy Night - I have a rock-out= kind of groove going on around 2:45 where the loops are in 6/8.=A0 At 3:15= , I've taken a 9/8 cut of two consecutive groups of the original 6/8 lo= ops (I usually perform with the Boss RC-300, but this operation pushed the = song over to requiring my Ableton setup).=A0 I was psyched when I came up w= ith it and wanted to share it here because, well, there just aren't tha= t many people out there who understand that excitement :)
=A0
Best,
Wytold
Strathmore Artist in Residence
www.facebook.com/Wytold=20
=A0






--
Wytold
Strathmore Artist in Residence
www.fac= ebook.com/Wytold=20
=A0

--047d7b2e3fa8b3076404cea2a58b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 16 22:07:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20C91183461; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 22:07:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <50A6B910.9060801@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 17:07:12 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #815 for November 15, 2012. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119270 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 22:07:15 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/121115.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #815 November 15, 2012. WDIY Playlist: http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels?playlist_date=11-15-2012 RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Palancar. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Ambient Train Wreck Series Volume Two" on Blue Water Records. http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#nov I also played music by an artist who will appear at the Gatherings on Saturday. I also marked the passing of Pete Namlook. PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Pete Namlook and Wish You Were There Dark Side of the Moof (Fax) Klaus Schulze Parts 9 & 10 Chuck Van Zyl Marble Orchard MemorySpace (Synkronos) Nocturne Kevin Keller Remembering The Day I Met Myself (none) Andy Pickford Dreamrider Jern (none) Palancar August 19, 2006 Ambient Train Wreck Series Volume Two (Blue Water) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Palancar July 29, 2006 Ambient Train Wreck Series Volume Two (Blue Water) Palancar July 22, 2006 Ambient Train Wreck Series Volume Two (Blue Water) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Palancar. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Ambient Train Wreck Series Volume Three" on Blue Water Records. WDIY Announcement: http://wdiy.org/post/next-galactic-travels-2012-11-22 Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST/GMT-5 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 16 23:57:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BBECB183461; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 23:57:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Ed Durbrow Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_FE004A7E-5BA6-4A4A-BCC8-6F38E491C7C6" Message-Id: <5C88C299-0CDA-4A5A-8779-85880052CC5D@sea.plala.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 08:57:13 +0900 References: <50a6881c.e64a420a.19e9.7c55@mx.google.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <50a6881c.e64a420a.19e9.7c55@mx.google.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-VirusScan: Outbound; msa03b; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 08:57:13 +0900 Resent-Message-ID: <3pvCSD.A.teH.dLtpQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119271 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 23:57:17 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_FE004A7E-5BA6-4A4A-BCC8-6F38E491C7C6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 In early Medieval times perfect fifths and fourths were prevalent. = Pythagorean temperament, with its pure fifths, works well for this = music. With the advent of tertial based music, forms of meantone = temperament allowed for thirds which were pure or much closer to pure. = To state the obvious, it depends a lot on what kind of music is being = played which temperament is best. With the kind of key modulation used = in the 19th century, they had no recourse but equal. It is quite = something how the ear will adapt though. On the Renaissance lute, it amazes me how it just happens to work out = that moving frets about (6 comma meantone) works out across all strings. = I use a "tastini", little fret just for two strings, for sharps (which = are lower than flats) below the first fret. Some gamba players split the = first fret for sharps and flats. Others, particularly continuo players, = just make sure they play the sharp in another position. But there really = are very few problems for the prevalent keys. I'm very anxious to explore the temperament Per was describing in Logic = that shifts depending on the tonal center.=20 On Nov 17, 2012, at 3:38 AM, astralmnemonics@gmail.com wrote: > church organ, violin/viol family, choral, orchestra(if no piano = involved) > none of those play in equal temperament, and they aren't known for = out of tuneness. > It's a "textbook/academic thing" that equal temperament is(or was = ever) ubiquitous, > not even Bach used it. Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www.youtube.com/user/edurbrow?feature=3Dwatch http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ --Apple-Mail=_FE004A7E-5BA6-4A4A-BCC8-6F38E491C7C6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 In = early Medieval times perfect fifths and fourths were prevalent. = Pythagorean temperament, with its pure fifths, works well for = this music. With the advent of tertial based music, forms of meantone = temperament allowed for thirds which were pure or much closer to pure. = To state the obvious, it depends a lot on what kind of music is being = played which temperament is best. With the kind of key modulation used = in the 19th century, they had no recourse but equal. It is quite = something how the ear will adapt though.
On the Renaissance = lute, it amazes me how it just happens to work out that moving = frets about (6 comma meantone) works out across all strings. I use a = "tastini", little fret just for two strings, for sharps (which are lower = than flats) below the first fret. Some gamba players split the first = fret for sharps and flats. Others, particularly continuo players, just = make sure they play the sharp in another position. But there really are = very few problems for the prevalent keys.

I'm very = anxious to explore the temperament Per was describing in Logic that = shifts depending on the tonal center. 

On = Nov 17, 2012, at 3:38 AM, astralmnemonics@gmail.com = wrote:

 none of those play in equal = temperament, and they aren't known for out of tuneness.

 not even Bach used = it.


= --Apple-Mail=_FE004A7E-5BA6-4A4A-BCC8-6F38E491C7C6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 17 01:05:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 19743183461; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 01:05:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=D6YbZUZ/NicgnWk4c1oWJe9k0JjRfcyqv2e18r/AoZQ=; b=CoFHRorNv8s2KSWJBpcGUfzxY+On8wIBRfwP6pTnF1PlRAt4DAIq6dGNS5ZD+S5+Jo 9K9Ge/oyzY+S/UDKqiWNY8FhOuuPzfrPWRCxN++M8bq4kOmO9cQIMAHcbheUXrs6Emyk R01RcYqdTI2JGGRPXV+Q/+GO2A2EBD3AiRn8xMzHIG3Y6Hxdp27xfin6harnqQHa1hA5 YqSgqrSZScdhVbUhL2LsYHc4DacUYg3CclN3Ai75XW8+o9FWm3F/4eJhw0QEkqCcu455 9BoWF3LDCIa2Tk0SIW+qO2XMFNrZiTkFlSS8bj6MZcKUJo3hWfyj8gDRU6ZeNfANqjp6 yw0Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5C88C299-0CDA-4A5A-8779-85880052CC5D@sea.plala.or.jp> References: <50a6881c.e64a420a.19e9.7c55@mx.google.com> <5C88C299-0CDA-4A5A-8779-85880052CC5D@sea.plala.or.jp> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 02:05:06 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119272 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 01:05:07 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 12:57 AM, Ed Durbrow wrote: > I'm very anxious to explore the temperament Per was describing in Logic that > shifts depending on the tonal center. In case a more detailed explanation might be appreciated - there are three major tuning modes you can run Logic at: 1) Equal Tempered. 2) Fixed tunings relate to the tonal center. You have to set the tonal center once for all, the "Root Key". One type of fixed tuning allows the user to manually define the pitch for each note in the scale. There are also two slider here for stretching deviation in the "treble" vs "bass" side of the sound (this I have not tested out though). 3) Hermode Tuning adapts the tuning to what notes are played, i.e. which harmony ranges are at work, at any part of the music. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 17 03:47:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D05118345C; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 03:47:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <50A708D6.901@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 22:47:34 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen to Thought Radio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <12oDsD.A.7HB.ZjwpQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119273 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 03:47:38 +0000 (UTC) THOUGHT RADIO: http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio ======================================================================= My next stint on Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show, will be Saturday, November 17 at 6 am EST/GMT-5. In Phase One, I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs. I will play music by artists who will play at area concerts such as the Soundscapes Concert Series on Sunday, December 2.Pete Namlook will be remembered. I host the show about every other week. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 17 04:13:59 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07F3B183461; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 04:13:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=NfMFEHch2BDeBxNBgk2d2JT97NERg4fn/vvjfxBKSUs=; b=vKNbPUKN4GDAMWjfu9na+vwM8kCtR3BNIMJiuAf3ZBGJKXRkN07BudrohIyIIGpK61 3yuMQf78S+PAkuRx45RMAE8RugdTKNdwkCMRyypE7gPnw09NzkfNygJVYxD+YRqE0thv M+TiRdPDr0C3DY75+/u3v+rwrBVJKmil0EWoJ44/Sg2sqxmYMLpRfpS+ypKMQH1IVoJk zSnIJo1wVD6fBVGRkOBwkoznG2yPqKOX9UKKe+NxPoyT5QBC2ePYooaUIh8XUmTMC3Z/ F10RyYI08syKwfhmLowoZM8Y2eZSnjJTDhexQkdm7R0fNcRQUEjvm21Se6s0pr2WMVFV w3fQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1353097319.75639.YahooMailNeo@web121201.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 20:13:57 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electric Cello Looping Holiday EP From: "kay'lon rushing" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d044481bff5e06604cea91c4d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119274 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 04:13:58 +0000 (UTC) --f46d044481bff5e06604cea91c4d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Good stuff! On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Wytold Lebing wrote: > Thanks Steve! Hah yeah, epic is a good word for the arrangements :) > > > On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Steve Uccello wrote: > >> Sounds nice Wytold! Epic arrangements, great job- Steve Uccello >> >> www.clarifiedbirds.com >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Wytold Lebing >> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> *Sent:* Friday, November 16, 2012 11:41 AM >> *Subject:* Electric Cello Looping Holiday EP >> >> Hi Everyone, >> >> I'm just releasing a short EP of looped electric cello holiday mash-ups, >> that you can listen to here . First >> of all, just wanted to share the tunes :) But also - does anyone have >> suggestions for bloggers/reviewers/whoever that may want to >> cover/share/write on this kind of thing? >> >> Thanks for your help!! >> >> PS - The thing I thought was niftiest on this EP is that in the first >> track - the mix of Carol of the Bells with O Holy Night - I have a rock-out >> kind of groove going on around 2:45 where the loops are in 6/8. At 3:15, >> I've taken a 9/8 cut of two consecutive groups of the original 6/8 loops (I >> usually perform with the Boss RC-300, but this operation pushed the song >> over to requiring my Ableton setup). I was psyched when I came up with it >> and wanted to share it here because, well, there just aren't that many >> people out there who understand that excitement :) >> >> Best, >> *Wytold >> Strathmore Artist in Residence >> * >> www.Wytold.com >> www.facebook.com/Wytold >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > *Wytold > Strathmore Artist in Residence > * > www.Wytold.com > www.facebook.com/Wytold > > > -- http://www.facebook.com/pages/K3Z/311236368904238 http://www.youtube.com/user/gumdrops27 https://twitter.com/K3Z_Art www.soundcloud.com/k3z --f46d044481bff5e06604cea91c4d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good stuff!

On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 12:31= PM, Wytold Lebing <wytoldmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Steve!=A0 Hah yeah, epic is a good word for the arrangements=A0:)


On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Steve Uccello <= span dir=3D"ltr"><stevebassbird@yahoo.com> wrote:
Sounds nice Wytold! Epic arrangements, great job- Steve Uccello<= /span>


From: Wytold Lebing <wytoldmusic@gmail.co= m>
To: Loopers-Delig= ht@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2= 012 11:41 AM
Subject: Ele= ctric Cello Looping Holiday EP

Hi Everyone,
=A0
I'm just releasing a short EP of looped electric cello holiday mas= h-ups, that you can listen to here.=A0 First of all, just wanted = to share the tunes :) But also - does anyone have suggestions for bloggers/= reviewers/whoever that may want to cover/share/write on this kind of thing?=
=A0
Thanks for your help!!
=A0
PS - The thing I thought was niftiest on this EP is that in the first = track - the mix of Carol of the Bells with O Holy Night - I have a rock-out= kind of groove going on around 2:45 where the loops are in 6/8.=A0 At 3:15= , I've taken a 9/8 cut of two consecutive groups of the original 6/8 lo= ops (I usually perform with the Boss RC-300, but this operation pushed the = song over to requiring my Ableton setup).=A0 I was psyched when I came up w= ith it and wanted to share it here because, well, there just aren't tha= t many people out there who understand that excitement :)
=A0
Best,
Wytold
Strathmore Artist in Residence
www.facebook.com/Wytold=20
=A0






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Wytold
Strathmore Artist in Residence
www.fac= ebook.com/Wytold=20
=A0




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http://www.youtube.com/use= r/gumdrops27

https://twitt= er.com/K3Z_Art

www.soundcloud.com/k3z

--f46d044481bff5e06604cea91c4d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 17 07:44:26 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2487B18345E; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 07:44:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_e7d54fe8-4229-400e-9bd7-616da9208239_" X-Originating-IP: [184.145.30.111] From: Jack Cattedra To: Subject: RE: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 07:44:20 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <50a6881c.e64a420a.19e9.7c55@mx.google.com>,<5C88C299-0CDA-4A5A-8779-85880052CC5D@sea.plala.or.jp>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Nov 2012 07:44:21.0109 (UTC) FILETIME=[5B191A50:01CDC497] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119275 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 07:44:25 +0000 (UTC) --_e7d54fe8-4229-400e-9bd7-616da9208239_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've been playing around with "root key" in FL Studio lately and I must say= =2C it works wonders on balancing the barely audible to those higher freque= ncy synthetic bass lines. > Date: Sat=2C 17 Nov 2012 02:05:06 +0100 > Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? > From: perboysen@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > 2) Fixed tunings relate to the tonal center. You have to set the tonal > center once for all=2C the "Root Key". One type of fixed tuning allows > the user to manually define the pitch for each note in the scale. > There are also two slider here for stretching deviation in the > "treble" vs "bass" side of the sound (this I have not tested out > though). > > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen = --_e7d54fe8-4229-400e-9bd7-616da9208239_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've been playing around with "root key" in FL Studio lately and I must say= =2C it works wonders on balancing the barely audible to those higher freque= ncy synthetic bass lines.

>=3B Date: Sat=2C 17 Nov 2012 02:05:06 +0100
>=3B Subject: Re: A = =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz?
>=3B From: perboysen@gmail.com
>=3B To: Loo= pers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
>=3B 2) Fixed tunings rela= te to the tonal center. You have to set the tonal
>=3B center once for= all=2C the "Root Key". One type of fixed tuning allows
>=3B the user = to manually define the pitch for each note in the scale.
>=3B There ar= e also two slider here for stretching deviation in the
>=3B "treble" v= s "bass" side of the sound (this I have not tested out
>=3B though).>=3B
>=3B Greetings from Sweden
>=3B
>=3B Per Boysen>=3B www.perboysen.com
>=3B http://www.youtube.com/perboysen
= --_e7d54fe8-4229-400e-9bd7-616da9208239_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 17 08:02:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB974183461; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 08:02:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 957401.23727.bm@omp1035.mail.ird.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1353139324; bh=HDjetLC6+FkhBJ2bbDPc84PCpz04uK6PrecICVYSFTo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mmkYHk9ObFOLXt5cHTXy/AD7gxOsf+5D84Gjro962Ws37WRU2ZZ3sP424bSboXw8h6H+n6ws2zsq1Y/0cMULwUfxTJKVYgv4Th4KD88U2q+cV2EI28NNB03LmTPmG4c6hXQQnAuBT2LcQcjqNzryWRo6SeSErAk6CrzKGDK1CPk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ohdsB2+0Zda+1RB6Epi5Ey4Xc7A0gLqSSgxcpbLGp8v4iCcU8eEHIMEbNBmkzKKyjp1uK2ZsUexIcV4ze9GKBlS5923eev2KfFhgIkKH4cEs2XcoAXSDiIhxkurYPP2sAMoqICKPR0u6kUTuRgjB4rV4YAexM/1L+B+7Nt1kZQg=; X-YMail-OSG: WGookCcVM1lbcjheyfRKRJacT7CBB4AmbYOOQCaFoMijnWT _Sb0Ht1HUi_EUM1QzMWC1W3ZVCgC2zvRMDqA3Ig6_QLv.2cn7XJHhTXthmT. NotTC8gV54Vq07kA8hGOPBRkCKMvKBrn0pTmGUOBoAsd7pzVqZ_fzJTD5cNQ PbCNGdmK9TnTRRarvPReh6vuIPnpfZFZKDvF9TiIB0XUUfgA7h80AHQWFop3 lMuzy8FMjvqmpB8KgW0dkJetXJ4f_UJq6xs02HLY63wy3NkpbjRVc6quFopR Sc6ushMpGf8E8L7dvPBpitmz9wiIUeo0wxKxUFOxfH5EEqsERzcfqmUjIs8. uRamnzJuDM1XlgYI5ewdC16BqsJYioPAvrpbAPJb1wpRqrFjCkNKsboPVHBM fm.rruXKCrmB8KwGzu91RuILQTJBB9_fhXkPh4.cOtY_5AcFSkJ9hScdgsbX mBJdlSvJtcJErWgbnp5ElY4XnaGzkplNdAl5KbnvhHGzxgvmh9pyakA.ZYA- - X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,VGhhdCBsb29rcyBsaWtlIHdoYXQgSSBhbSBsb29raW5nIGZvciB0aGFua3MKCkFudG9ueSBIZXF1ZXQBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.460 Message-ID: <1353139324.29608.YahooMailMobile@web132205.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 08:02:04 +0000 (GMT) From: Antony Hequet Subject: Re : Re: silent footpedal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="343272849-271384395-1353139324=:29608" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119276 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 08:02:06 +0000 (UTC) --343272849-271384395-1353139324=:29608 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That looks like what I am looking for thanks=0A=0AAntony Hequet --343272849-271384395-1353139324=:29608 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That looks like what I am looking for tha= nks

Antony Hequet
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=0A = =0A Subject:=0A = =0A Re: silent footpedal =
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I git my KMI 12 step= because it is silent and flashy:=A0http://www.keithmcmill= en.com/12step/overview
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caveat: if you don't like the feel of the s= ofstep, this is likely not an improvement.

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On Mon,= Nov 12, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Chrissie Caulfield <christine.caulfield@googlemail.com> wrote:
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On 12/11/12 13:53, Per Boysen wrote:
=0A=0AOn Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 2:43 PM, mark francombe = <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:=0A
=0AI guess its gonna be the all round = winner for "low to the ground".. It so
=0Alow, its almost lowe= r than the ground...!
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=0A...amazing! Like a hole = into the stage floor. There are better ways to
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=0AHAHA! I was thinking about= getting one but I think I've changed my mind now - it sounds very hard= to play in heels :-)
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=0AChrissie
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=0A --343272849-271384395-1353139324=:29608-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 17 09:27:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EBD5E18345C; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 09:27:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:subject:from:to:cc:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer; bh=e/8GnQ6yqoTjEr3wCbeOwEDT57m57sE16rAkCr+S4nc=; b=Gj9WEDcuZ31E9IWJLhGcAv0Sb0LWC+YV0V9pomP5cwtMoJkqXAtosRBX/LEM25yeHD cXdoJJ6qZc7hx/5KAfa4jbtDjKzL0hjCNc10cQjIe9tdB3eg+Y9Kt7Br5z59bWWaCQdh Zh0pSjSb5KGcrC+HOxOg7Cq0FMbKrRe1ODvYkTbXLGzhTdxDyjIqQD2QhjpFpSobBmbi b8DLrrJxWJEotW3hyEypqEsuv7pYfDgvvdIb6C89kthlLh+d+FpQKtsauiDhVhvl7TGI BWRDumLof99+eCwuFU4FZnMYHQkoVHc7IDYBB5BRIj3jR2bjfOzogW68vgNcg2Ikl8Jp HtVQ== Message-ID: <50a7588f.02c2440a.5602.ffffe365@mx.google.com> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 01:27:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: LP2 Holiday 2012 From: "astralmnemonics@gmail.com" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com CC: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Seven Enterprise Gateway (v 2.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119277 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 09:27:45 +0000 (UTC) Anyone else having fun with the Looperlative LP2? I think more reviews need to surface to proclaim how inventive this little under $500 pedal is. For me I just want to compare performance factors with other more experienced loopers. I will post a 1 month review this weekend on the Gear Page and here. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 17 14:04:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1872E18345C; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 14:04:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 523188.17089.bm@omp1003.mail.ird.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1353161085; bh=56ZPieBqhQVq/BCi2lQ3LY0GUqYSCOG1jVUxDPleaTo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GEH4Bz6kTs2Vjn8JVx9Em8LOPOHK0sMl8YtwxfIdBzu9UwvfpuXgZcwulmsjFxp7ejxqe93p+qdpPC9qKMdjxkIGYPjMILVfm0rJgr8Q0fRwhoOvwMb8l/K/VOp3KltysIu3+z4XAbEOg5a8owgkOtlDVTVLrKF4WKot6hsIgqk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Oo9hEpXRR10xivmz6zJVjnDpH3GeJCLVhAmP018pizP/A3CEKEbBbL4PcbtR9n0zurmQjwto1pCV/2lN7MJwe97YRL2HfEZkWYuBJ+rXiZ76NBIdueW1ZCZY6Agrtij8lXIaMVqljjZ9/14IWiS6d95LC1ZmG1Nm08R22hMLyVI=; X-YMail-OSG: TKcTdSAVM1mErUxJsh8cYqEfqLv3rnlbtsP6cQQAz1jMlsH JYDfNAQAIf_P4ssedPsC9BnlfhQe2WmBTyy0eTkyk35GEXFCeHj_Rn6qGKbu RvAQtulf7xKIGe0pohf8UHEGqOAQ8mEOz9ghHEflxlUYD1NCa3ENsvWSlGgR cZ9lqA4KtiLgFu8v513M1N7_IhtAEk6rLhZgpIow7MG2Do1f9T4.2jbbqI0m UL2NeFNiJ.VXoHx4NxZHzWgZWUo.TFddq__3spBtKkhrQkf63_fll6oOgS7_ D_1Z6Sgi2vTqiqqyjbGU6W66Cc1mrob8lUcm65rUb1owjZk5iKbt_nPFQ.J8 KPPjQkrlB4f2TY.h.dMrbunoWXMnA1rdVBgcs326FYoZ0IaiTsMZzS18yu4j FXYfwTnpzmZYKwHDGAb7c6g.7 X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,aGVsbG8sCgpJIG5lZWQgdG8gZ2V0IGluIHRvdWNoIHdpdGggQm9iIGFuZCBoZSBpcyBub3QgcmVzcG9uZGluZy4gRG9lcyBhbnlvbmUga25vdyBob3cgdG8gcmVhY2ggaGltIG9yIGdldCBoaXMgYXR0ZW50aW9uOyBSaWNrIFdhbGtlci4uLgoKQW50b255IEhlcXVldAEwAQEBAQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.460 Message-ID: <1353161085.87796.YahooMailNeo@web132201.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 14:04:45 +0000 (GMT) From: Antony Hequet Reply-To: Antony Hequet Subject: getting in touch with Looperlative To: "loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-579085934-2028498808-1353161085=:87796" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119278 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 14:04:46 +0000 (UTC) ---579085934-2028498808-1353161085=:87796 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello,=0A=0AI need to get in touch with Bob and he is not responding. 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----------MB_8CF930722F6B706_19BC_403A1_webmailstg-m01.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 17 19:55:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D17318345E; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 19:55:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <50A7EBC4.5010804@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 14:55:48 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Thought Radio Playlist for November 17, 2012. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_ivwpB.A.PdB.Iv-pQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119280 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 19:55:52 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2012/121117.html The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EST/GMT-5 on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. http://soundscapes.us/afterglow/index.html Show #237 November 17, 2012. On today's show, I played music by artists who will be playing at area concerts; the Soundscapes Concert Series, the Gatherings, and Event Horizon. November 17: http://thegatherings.org December 2: http://soundscapes.us December 7: http://eventhorizonseries.org Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [A.D.S.R.] Analogue Sequence Sequences No.21 1 - 2 VA [Marcel Peelan] In Sync 3 Sequences No.21 Chuck Van Zyl and The Night Watch none (none) Terry Furber Andy Pickford Release Jera (none) Genetique Zero Warning Green (none) Hunter and Harrison Liquid to Gas - Phase 1 (Music With Space) Vaporization Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Keller Ascending The Day I Met Myself (none) Elika Mahoney Commencement Glimmerings (none) Peter Kater Sacral Chakra Light Body (Mysterium Music) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== K2 Passage To the Deep Black Garden (Magna Carta) Mahogany Frog Saffron Myst Senna (Moonjune) Mahogany Frog Aqua Love Ice Cream Senna (Moonjune) Delivery Service Vinyl Kings Bang Bang A Little Trip (Vinyl Kings) Vinyl Kings Chocolate Cake A Little Trip (Vinyl Kings) Vinyl Kings I'm Losing My Mind A Little Trip (Vinyl Kings) Alan Morse Cold Fusion * Four O'clock and Hysteria (InsideOut) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine and play music in support of the Soundscapes Concert Series on December 2 and Event Horizon on December 7. Bill Fox ======================================================================== Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EDT/GMT-4. Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music. Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Website - http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 17 20:21:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF10318345E; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 20:21:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-25--933131647 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: LP2 Holiday 2012 Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 12:21:46 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119281 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 20:21:53 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-25--933131647 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Anyone else having fun with the Looperlative LP2? I think more > reviews need to surface to proclaim how inventive this little under > $500 pedal is. For me I just want to compare performance factors > with other more experienced loopers. I will post a 1 month review > this weekend on the Gear Page and here. Since the looping festival i have not had much time to post videos, but I plan to in the next couple of weeks. Thanks for the good word. I have been using the LP-2 with my normal gig rig not my looping rig. I'm having big fun sending midi clock to my M-9's effects and using my LP-2 to control the delay and effects tempo. I have add excellent results using the LP-2 as a clock master and will demo some of those findings soon. Bill --Apple-Mail-25--933131647 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Anyone else having fun with the Looperlative LP2?  I think = more reviews need to surface to proclaim how inventive this little under = $500 pedal is.  For me I just want to compare performance factors = with other more experienced loopers.  I will post a 1 month review = this weekend on the Gear Page and = here.

 Since the looping festival i = have not had much time to post videos, but I plan to in the next couple = of weeks. Thanks for the good word.  I have been using the LP-2 = with my normal gig rig not my looping rig. I'm having big fun sending = midi clock  to my M-9's effects and using my LP-2 to control the = delay and effects tempo. I have add excellent results using the LP-2 as = a clock master and will demo some of those findings = soon.
 Bill
= --Apple-Mail-25--933131647-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 17 22:45:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF7A818345C; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 22:45:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to :x-gm-message-state; bh=iqE4igylmaenNMKdLZpIrmUd4eNf/Xz1YYO6ktK4sQE=; b=S3jVHbku4xkE469z+uvBUL27fdyxdQScntm++uXHuREJWo8fL24L0CczEjskWL5ybA gD9Cp0genUn/BChtR3VRURs93Xw2M0QHa8oa9W6aodwzqz90RCopigiI6yrEI+wNlCU1 NpduFjoYVLV0Mze0dXjpJ8J80Ug2LX+mMka9tdeRjEze+tNHMPpQgyKAAqGFK1q+y/p6 miNuehPbYWiZUIQeTc0uAvvHcBNw5+0QCQSJ4wLx1ul4H3iHc4istZsoxZa2OcXLptrB Y8b6QQHME2u6YDaZZcp2iBNqrBiFwtABKBelyFD7lfd3rahU4um0EPRbfiYrtZ/38z9o JosQ== References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <364FCAFD-3E62-4AFF-922E-021912413D92@teddyjam.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10A523) From: "Teddyjam.com" Subject: Re: LP2 Holiday 2012 Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 17:45:14 -0500 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlZNsHL0X0rdVbo1fgb9MRiTnq/2I13KEWQo/zC2LQxAYE75t3vyhOi0YPfeyKd367CKtbT Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119282 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 22:45:20 +0000 (UTC) Yay Bill!!! For the record, I use midi clock from an RC-50 into the M9 every week at liv= e looping residency in NYC. It's fun! I would love to try the LP2 but would have to get 2 to do what I do with the= RC-50... Cause of mono operation... I'm jealous of LP2 users... Can't wait t= o hear what people do with it Teddy http://teddyjam.com On Nov 17, 2012, at 3:21 PM, William Walker wrote: > Since the looping festival i have not had much time to post videos, but I= plan to in the next couple of weeks. Thanks for the good word. I have been= using the LP-2 with my normal gig rig not my looping rig. I'm having big fu= n sending midi clock to my M-9's effects and using my LP-2 to control the d= elay and effects tempo. I have add excellent results using the LP-2 as a clo= ck master and will demo some of those findings soon. > Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 17 23:20:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2F3B18345E; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 23:20:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 142304.36263.bm@omp1052.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1353194415; bh=CR4sGJwN0nVNHkndfb8OornU8vpQVn1F+bU5sW8ua6A=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=6ohZ8QRZXXLZVUgPzoxuVjWSol6VNgtNRB6oAhAPxC+PwbZDVEToKUzr3I0A6o7OaGbJxnNPGUuU0y/l78JP8nYW9uL8llweFsGdJgh+UONVc7qgQ+9cxpoDthl4b6/mv7ncR+4VD2uIrGmqhs9vlk0gbU9RpN3amRh2rzPu7+8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rFQDMYs0/lAVrnAq+1gVk7l7knNeuxbXZIG5o474thS/YkiTIzsjGCI8TanJ/lQXJ71+IdOjruqPb9KWPHNE0k5YFnJL5lmj13S5LzmE5vrAZA9YsAK/bEphyMHUMi3M3MSoubB6HPJWCeRiO5xjejSz1XrRjwOYysw9Ahhvigw=; X-YMail-OSG: civfwjMVM1kipVLB_SWXhxOhF2yULOCjD_Oz7Avozhz86l1 zg2quqo4DddL7pdUAZ5AlyTqqv6IaIRujyShI9NkwUQMvRz9k76rjo4APjUo Z14yGm6LKyNng_D1QP5qK2dhBngA8YDWVBxm5kStXqu4lETtZ6wD38xiAUwo Pz3tGFjufeFy5JfmlLkzw9HjZtP.dw9DyyGceS1Ic0TkmorJy5RY1iocP37R 1VnimawdrD6OXmRTOGc26eoci1AlZY7fAsX_IhvhQCYCaHv.oocZTvpo9ObI moHicX4A5wgjEp1C59jwT_.hQj0Wq0fvissWDcrFKYLSRnXKluvlb7Jw7cXo JcSJYxTSzLP7NWKAIxTUP_QGGE7c1504j67BBoJ7koI57aVjt_Fem6gZid9m eDzSr1YFLVTIjNrgezZEiTKiuT0kY..1FKEotPwSUjnbTD5G9YQhdaOaVz90 52qceeyVl1bD1EJVfpS03r_ULs3kM3he69xqHy0i04imdGR7CRpUViMc6srk dddhAhnSIPT7ZgdD1RCeTjYyhQ2wpcOJcQBEJO502w6HtbYIaXbiUhbOrI8R 0yDfg6.KhhYZI5I4JKy0x04pm74wBNXILlYkLUdbYsJNLBVUpGeYmTefXsg8 8MxE9JkHAUAeNpCL7xKeYXA-- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,QW5kIHdoYXQgYWJvdXQgc2luZ2VycwoKbGlrZSBEYXZpZCBCb3dpZSB0aGF0IG1pc3NlcyBub3RlcyBieSBmYXIgYW5kIGl0IGp1c3QgbWFrZXMgdGhlIG11c2ljCmNvbWUgdG8gbGl2ZSEKd293IHJlYWxseT8gaSBkb250IHRoaW5rIGl2ZSBoZWFyZCBCb3dpZSBvdXQgb2YgdHVuZSxoZXMgYSBmYXYgb2YgbWluZQppZCBiZSBpbnRlcmVzdGVkIGluIGhlYXJpbmcgdGhhdCEKY2hlZXJzCkx1aXMKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKR3JlZXRpbmdzIGZyb20gU3dlZGVuCgpQZXIgQm95c2VuCnd3dy5wZXJib3lzZW4BMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.460 References: <50a54552.6156420a.7582.0280@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <1353194414.8817.YahooMailNeo@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 15:20:14 -0800 (PST) From: Luis Angulo Reply-To: Luis Angulo Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="506312955-603723797-1353194414=:8817" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119283 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 23:20:16 +0000 (UTC) --506312955-603723797-1353194414=:8817 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And what about singers=0A=0Alike David Bowie that misses notes by far and i= t just makes the music=0Acome to live!=0Awow really? i dont think ive heard= Bowie out of tune,hes a fav of mine=0Aid be interested in hearing that!=0A= cheers=0ALuis=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AGreet= ings from Sweden=0A=0APer Boysen=0Awww.perboysen.com=0Ahttp://www.youtube.c= om/perboysen=0A=0A=0AOn Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 8:41 PM, astralmnemonics@gmail= .com=0A wrote:=0A> Yeah I tend to prefer noise r= ock like Fugazi and Sonic Youth who improvise with feedback and dissonance,= over songs that were written with a specific harmony/tuning being played i= n super neo tuning=0A> -----Original Message-----=0A> Date: Thursday, Novem= ber 15, 2012 11:27:27 am=0A> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Fr= om: "mark francombe" =0A> Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz= OR 432 Hz?=0A>=0A> Well thankfully I have never been afflicted by the said= disease at all! If=0A> you played me a C and told me it was a F I'd believ= e you, well.. maybe not,=0A> but that would be because I would suspect you = were up to something and look=0A> carefully into your eyes.=0A>=0A> If Ive = done a gig and my G string is a bit out, Ill play on!! Much more=0A> import= ant to rock, than to stop and say.. hang on... I think my G string is=0A> l= oose (might get a laugh tho).=0A>=0A> I think this is an interesting thread= , and I actually love the sound of=0A> dissonance and note clusters and the= subtleties of tuning for effect,=0A> But playing conventional music in wei= rd micro tunings (like on the link=0A> posted earlier in this thread) just = sounds HORRIBLE to my ears... I dont=0A> care if its related to the golden = mean or the layout of the pyramids of=0A> Maya... or exact reproductions of= harmonical relationships... The audience=0A> thinks your are our of tune d= ude!=0A>=0A> Ive been trying to think of a few references to recording that= I think are=0A> interesting due to weird tunings, and I cant think of one,= but there are a=0A> few related things.=0A>=0A> The tremolo bends on "Love= less" (My Blood Valentine of course.. my god they=0A> have reformed... cant= wait for my ears to bleed again!!) I absolutely=0A> adore, one of the best= albums ever.=0A> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DLf8j1bUgwJ8&feature=3Dre= lated=0A> And I'm still a sucker for the grungy noize of World Domination E= nterprise,=0A> where the guitarist tuned to a cassette tape of him playing = a tuning that=0A> he couldnt get from a tuner, apparently he woke up one da= y to an out of=0A> tune guitar, didnt bother tuning it,=0A> --506312955-603723797-1353194414=:8817 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
And what about singer= s
like David Bowie that misses notes by far and it= just makes the music
come to live!
wow really? i dont think ive hear= d Bowie out of tune,hes a fav of mine
id be interested in hearing that!<= br>cheers
Luis

















Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.= com
http:= //www.youtube.com/perboysen


On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 8:41 PM,= astralmnemonics@gmail.com
<astralmnemonics@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah I tend t= o prefer noise rock like Fugazi and Sonic Youth who improvise with feedback= and dissonance, over songs that were written with a specific harmony/tunin= g being played in super neo tuning
> -----Original Message-----
&g= t; Date: Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:27:27 am
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> From: = "mark francombe" <mark@markfrancombe.com>
> Subjec= t: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz?
>
> Well thankfully I have never= been afflicted by the said disease at all! If
> you played me a C an= d told me it was a F I'd believe you, well.. maybe not,
> but that wo= uld be because I would suspect you were up to something and look
> carefull= y into your eyes.
>
> If Ive done a gig and my G string is a bi= t out, Ill play on!! Much more
> important to rock, than to stop and = say.. hang on... I think my G string is
> loose (might get a laugh th= o).
>
> I think this is an interesting thread, and I actually l= ove the sound of
> dissonance and note clusters and the subtleties of= tuning for effect,
> But playing conventional music in weird micro t= unings (like on the link
> posted earlier in this thread) just sounds= HORRIBLE to my ears... I dont
> care if its related to the golden me= an or the layout of the pyramids of
> Maya... or exact reproductions = of harmonical relationships... The audience
> thinks your are our of = tune dude!
>
> Ive been trying to think of a few references to = recording that I think are
> interesting due to weird tunings, and I cant think of one, but there are a
> few related things.
&g= t;
> The tremolo bends on "Loveless" (My Blood Valentine of course.. = my god they
> have reformed... cant wait for my ears to bleed again!!= ) I absolutely
> adore, one of the best albums ever.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DLf8j1bUgwJ8&feature=3Dr= elated
> And I'm still a sucker for the grungy noize of World Dom= ination Enterprise,
> where the guitarist tuned to a cassette tape of= him playing a tuning that
> he couldnt get from a tuner, apparently = he woke up one day to an out of
> tune guitar, didnt bother tuning it= ,
>



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Hi Gang,
im really curious about this guitars,on videos they r= eally seem amazing,im really surprised how good the acoustics sound
ive been ignoring them since i didnt like the first Var= iax guitars,they seemed to be another gimick
wow but= this ones look and seem to sound really good!
I guess the only thing to fear here is electronic reliability,i woul= d guess that if that went bad you can pretty much throw it in the bin
so has anybody tried one? are they better than the GR= -55 guitar modelings?
any comments?
=
thanx!
 
http://www.myspace= .com/luisangulocom
--1929490892-975978055-1353194800=:45668-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 17 23:55:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 43723183463; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 23:55:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=TRFVItiDv+Js1xFEtP8CGQW0qOrbGKpKi8swPlLS6LQ=; b=GmOtkyw9Gs5CmgCbuwHQajJZnn4Jk4Col5ph+Q5o7ErgJD/c3hy/xxQno3y123fMda B2lJNhWjzvWh9JxBjIUfG4lYykXFp7irdell+MtDdWfA9fqwRv5BYWl99BqLzehnysOR cJL3FlPbbZOWHMLxP0eG2xrcwRY9TZQhhIVdCW5q4eSb39iTqURWSshCkn0iavoawsbx CpWtKNrfZmHkge0NPOB5C/7tOsElRA866f0H7RepvBuj6/5DIlOsLRQeUf4RQvbHG33A WIGO3EcKO1xzW9ikmQkqcFKRMUL8spi6Dsewn3+O0fuM8ecXTMS4ePYYgI/cPIuCvmZ9 evMg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1353194800.45668.YahooMailNeo@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1353194800.45668.YahooMailNeo@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 00:55:20 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Tayler Variaxs vs GR 55 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <9p0QID.A.6zD.pPCqQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119285 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 23:55:21 +0000 (UTC) Hi Luis, I have only tried out the Variax system briefly at guitar fairs, so I can't say I have any hands-on experience with it. But I have owned a GR-55 for some time and had a fair chance to get down with it. The sound is ok AFAIK but the nice thing with the GR-55 is all the effects that you can patch up in different configurations (well, according to two optional global routing schematics). You also get a good chance to sign up pedals and other controllers for effect parmeter control. As long as using the GR-55 pedal I can not feel any latency in the sound. Even though I know it is the synthetic COSM modeling, not the physical vibration from my strings, it feels totally real and musical to play a guitar through the GR-55 using only the COSM sounds (a few, that are good... some suck). The COSM + synths track pitch well OMO, here is a demo recording using a Sitar COSM sound where I play glissando well over a fifth's range: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4963264/gr55_fretless_demo_sitar.mp3 All the synths that comes with the packages is something I value too. You can stack two synths behind the COSM, and even blend in the real pickup output too if you want - but since I use a harp guitar I bring out the harp strings through the real pickup channel. The guitar neck is fretless and uses an active EMG humbucker and I don't mind replacing that sound with the COSM guitar sounds. But when using a Chapman STick I wouldn't dream about loosing out on the real magnetic pickup output, because Sticks have s Telecaster like single coil that gives a shimmer to the sound that just doesn't exist within the COSM world. I saw last month at a guitar biz fair that Roland now has a GR-55 Stratocaster type guitar as well, but I think I prefer the GR-55 pedal with a GK-3 pickup on the guitar. Hoping someone else has some hands-on experience with the Variax to post. Would be fun to read :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Luis Angulo wrote: > Hi Gang, > im really curious about this guitars,on videos they really seem amazing,im > really surprised how good the acoustics sound > ive been ignoring them since i didnt like the first Variax guitars,they > seemed to be another gimick > wow but this ones look and seem to sound really good! > I guess the only thing to fear here is electronic reliability,i would guess > that if that went bad you can pretty much throw it in the bin > so has anybody tried one? are they better than the GR-55 guitar modelings? > any comments? > thanx! > > http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 18 00:07:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D26618345C; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 00:07:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=5XqI0uwjOL6iF/YfuJO63byeo63cSePeIsBQzpeb3Q4=; b=lVA/BdKkPJ6jxiENMvQJtLC5+w3em17Ha9V1l0liPS/0AWyI4H47ZAPwsoyi3o5X4B gHkOYGM5eswSqh6j/+eHc/0Wqu+e+HyOwuyi8LojUR1Q6LHXS6NQMUd0lcH8T4g1r/wE AbPtM0lXhRLUrtxoYD7NExm+C4+GnSqQWmd/d1NpWHD+oMU504Evda2XP+bm2Y0bVwhU GxQbKzKat0HH8AtkjQ3nw1OLOjELQyGwDAcH3M5aQ+VXGoh5fETKihNJtZFKlo2NR7Q8 rjU9tbgOyRtkBoOREfidAZOO8cMeEvoIgNHRjZc6n92a/ZU2eD0aAdtfTaT6mBomE8Zu /zCg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <50a54552.6156420a.7582.0280@mx.google.com> <1353194414.8817.YahooMailNeo@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 01:07:52 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Fwd: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <8CagF.A.5_D.ZbCqQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119286 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 00:07:53 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Luis Angulo wrote: > wow really? i dont think ive heard Bowie out of tune,hes a fav of mine > id be interested in hearing that! Hey - that is exactly what I mean! It doesn't sound out of tune, he sounds just awesome - but if you analyse it theoretically some notes are off. "Off" might be a bad choice of word because it feels just right, musically and emotionally. To me Bowie sounds better singing out of tune than many other singers that nail every damn note perfectly. The harsh pitching attitude gives an authentic vibe to his singing. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 18 00:17:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A5CA18345B; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 00:17:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=R8u4V4aDa+5VKkCW+JyfLv9T2u2QJX4jUlonH6xTS98=; b=YlsMD5S6+iiq3Jgbkf9AxDTQbd07OU8ew8u2yTPsfJ9AfZ9woGfEUuOE0sjn8ez5lQ ZF3m1ZjOjM0oOtCmPv8wHhQ3Tk9rFJ/tjoCnHScM+hJbNp7K53SuZ+06qy5YchWIQ1jm hUSxlA6eJNUVkrimVQRyVyF2AvZuE9hw177QsAk69ggRC43tr71B+1FlwQPN7hbB8ePY rX8vd1QGxyZFmRL8V40dZMYYdvu9s0yoc6N1SeOea8Vg/egt5bHD6i4e7K0vkY6+4Sp0 a+jnlkrZgkb3fl2i0D7x2dXIZ95sS1RC36/EYWImzm5QdNJt5KuCFFVJvIjr6YWVRYxZ Zv5g== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 16:17:16 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LP2 Holiday 2012 From: Ben Edwards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b34410057948404ceb9ecb0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119287 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 00:17:17 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b34410057948404ceb9ecb0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Awesome! I can't wait to check out your videos. I haven't tried the MIDI out to slave effects but that sounds like a fantastic idea especially digital delays. On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 12:21 PM, William Walker wrote: > Anyone else having fun with the Looperlative LP2? I think more reviews > need to surface to proclaim how inventive this little under $500 pedal is. > For me I just want to compare performance factors with other more > experienced loopers. I will post a 1 month review this weekend on the Gear > Page and here. > > > Since the looping festival i have not had much time to post videos, but I > plan to in the next couple of weeks. Thanks for the good word. I have been > using the LP-2 with my normal gig rig not my looping rig. I'm having big > fun sending midi clock to my M-9's effects and using my LP-2 to control > the delay and effects tempo. I have add excellent results using the LP-2 as > a clock master and will demo some of those findings soon. > Bill > --047d7b34410057948404ceb9ecb0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Awesome! I can't wait to check out your videos.=A0 I haven't tried = the MIDI out to slave effects but that sounds like a fantastic idea especia= lly digital delays.=A0

On Sat, Nov 17, 2= 012 at 12:21 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:
Anyone = else having fun with the Looperlative LP2? =A0I think more reviews need to = surface to proclaim how inventive this little under $500 pedal is. =A0For m= e I just want to compare performance factors with other more experienced lo= opers. =A0I will post a 1 month review this weekend on the Gear Page and he= re.

=A0Since the looping festival i have not had much time to post vid= eos, but I plan to in the next couple of weeks. Thanks for the good word. = =A0I have been using the LP-2 with my normal gig rig not my looping rig. I&= #39;m having big fun sending midi clock =A0to my M-9's effects and usin= g my LP-2 to control the delay and effects tempo. I have add excellent resu= lts using the LP-2 as a clock master and will demo some of those findings s= oon.
=A0Bill

--047d7b34410057948404ceb9ecb0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 18 00:22:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA6CB183455; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 00:22:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=eSFrixqMhrdLvUY7vS1po4nFglPuSDezkxmfvhZ3cSk=; b=H1KfQdBJZJOKW/I3CQ53U6Y9ybTOUsS6KPReMoB5+GIupw7FEyCmdUedBmrILt0JEU NWEu2gpRAH8bFboqq8pkZh+0zrQ7TPGpceN7XW2KAhcFZbgsAg2YThrnKn/ff5vlt2qx qQw68mhSPGFgPvrhmS1WLtsfpJm7MGGZ2xmalV0lrXjunGnwRK8Aqagnrzd+/b8Z+p7U C4XU19bS9Az9Z4gTL4jp0sadxReYBahTanXJmHZc8PmlHpUXWIpctZvB3Xx/CJtuHJUL DpfxJepb5n+kBzrUnv39+VqDXhyJuIJMj91LFL9v0H8g2HTjgKz8SXmhnK8ty/ZatmwR cZfA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <50a54552.6156420a.7582.0280@mx.google.com> <1353194414.8817.YahooMailNeo@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 16:22:37 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? From: Ben Edwards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6244b881e68304ceb9ff35 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119288 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 00:22:38 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b6244b881e68304ceb9ff35 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I think it's like a warble quality that Roger Waters also has. Check out David Bowie singing on Comfortably Numb on the David Gilmour solo DVD and then compare it to how Graham Nash and David Crosby sing on the same DVD. Who is better? All of them for different reasons. Who do I prefer? David Bowie even though Nash and Crosby can sing sweet perfect harmonies. On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Luis Angulo > wrote: > > wow really? i dont think ive heard Bowie out of tune,hes a fav of mine > > id be interested in hearing that! > > > Hey - that is exactly what I mean! It doesn't sound out of tune, he > sounds just awesome - but if you analyse it theoretically some notes > are off. "Off" might be a bad choice of word because it feels just > right, musically and emotionally. To me Bowie sounds better singing > out of tune than many other singers that nail every damn note > perfectly. The harsh pitching attitude gives an authentic vibe to his > singing. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > --047d7b6244b881e68304ceb9ff35 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think it's like a warble quality that Roger Waters also has.=A0 Check= out David Bowie singing on Comfortably Numb on the David Gilmour solo DVD = and then compare it to how Graham Nash and David Crosby sing on the same DV= D.=A0 Who is better? All of them for different reasons.=A0 Who do I prefer?= =A0 David Bowie even though Nash and Crosby can sing sweet perfect harmonie= s.=A0=A0

On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Per Boysen = <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Luis Angulo <louie.angulo@yahoo.com> wrote: > wow really? i dont think ive heard Bowie out of tune,hes a fav of mine=
> id be interested in hearing that!


Hey - that is exactly what I mean! It doesn't sound out of tune, = he
sounds just awesome - but if you analyse it theoretically some notes
are off. "Off" might be a bad choice of word because it feels jus= t
right, musically and emotionally. To me Bowie sounds better singing
out of tune than many other singers that nail every damn note
perfectly. The harsh pitching attitude gives an authentic vibe to his
singing.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.y= outube.com/perboysen


--047d7b6244b881e68304ceb9ff35-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 18 04:58:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8EE0318345C; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 04:58:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ug5QODEalT00unYFjBVjIEtqATkv4J84gKTG6AAGiG8=; b=JwYCh7WL96vBP+x2ktfg98Dwnh4y7UvbWtGEKlivBwpKJGHglVsS9nMwW4P9ITH82W Me3Y1qVPF9T5Jb9HzgfpMHiGm28GGIhap/8euvTXsaoDp3L3DyX/B6wSkDr9E2EFXZuz 5jzbk3M3ecoovyRAD+FzJxUs13K802DMqaIIo+6t/QhpyxeU6nITzTtYODueWeeeIng8 tg1SdXEhdqSNVw5XroJGBzqyKjbA99F70lW54WZEBELmLzuUj16/iCPRr+DA9QqLeTtr 5r1ZgcH+kJ2Yxq0n/IPDdVHIi0PZkXga+jKRFTm2CXZJ9/IxI+9TjwUooNtKmO7te+vk hpuA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 20:58:50 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Looperlative LP2 - Mini Looper (Review) From: Ben Edwards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b621c584ffb3d04cebddb2e Resent-Message-ID: <5x20aC.A.QfG.LsGqQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119289 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 04:58:51 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b621c584ffb3d04cebddb2e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I don't do many reviews and I'm a newbie to the looping universe but I really love the LP2 and wish Bob could get some support to develop Looperlative. http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=1171980 -Ben soundcloud.com/emanation --047d7b621c584ffb3d04cebddb2e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't do many reviews and I'm a newbie to the looping universe bu= t I really love the LP2 and wish Bob could get some support to develop Loop= erlative.

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=3D1171980

-Ben

soundcloud.com= /emanation
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=0A = =0A Subject:=0A =0A = Re: Tayler Variaxs vs GR 55 =
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Nice Per! Right after i sent the mail i s= aw in youtube a guy comparing the variax and the GR55
It seems that th= e variax cannot get rid of the warbling when trying to do harmonics on the = acoustics
But the GR55 tracks way better,however the overall acoustic = sound seems to b better on the variax or so it seems!
=0A = =0A =0A = =0A = =0A =0A =
Hi Luis,

I hav= e only tried out the Variax system briefly at guitar fairs, so I
can't s= ay I have any hands-on experience with it. But I have owned a
GR-55 for = some time and had a fair chance to get down with it. The
sound is ok AFA= IK but the nice thing with the GR-55 is all the effects
that you can pat= ch up in different configurations (well, according to
two optional globa= l routing schematics). You also get a good chance to
sign up pedals and = other controllers for effect parmeter control. As
long as using the GR-5= 5 pedal I can not feel any latency in the sound.
Even though I know it i= s the synthetic COSM modeling, not the physical
vibration from my string= s, it feels totally real and musical to play a
guitar through the GR-55 = using only the COSM sounds (a few, that are
good... some suck). The COSM= + synths track pitch well OMO, here is a
demo recording using a Sitar COSM sound where I play glissando wellover a fifth's range:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4963264= /gr55_fretless_demo_sitar.mp3

All the synths that comes with the= packages is something I value too.
You can stack two synths behind the = COSM, and even blend in the real
pickup output too if you want - but sin= ce I use a harp guitar I bring
out the harp strings through the real pic= kup channel. The guitar neck
is fretless and uses an active EMG humbucke= r and I don't mind
replacing that sound with the COSM guitar sounds. But= when using a
Chapman STick I wouldn't dream about loosing out on the re= al magnetic
pickup output, because Sticks have s Telecaster like single = coil that
gives a shimmer to the sound that just doesn't exist within th= e COSM
world.

I saw last month at a guitar biz fair that Roland now has a GR-55
Stratocaster type guitar as well, but I think I = prefer the GR-55 pedal
with a GK-3 pickup on the guitar.

Hoping s= omeone else has some hands-on experience with the Variax to
post. Would = be fun to read :-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.pe= rboysen.com
http://www.youtube.com/perboysen


On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 1= 2:26 AM, Luis Angulo <louie.angulo@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi Gan= g,
> im really curious about this guitars,on videos they really seem = amazing,im
> really surprised how good the acoustics sound
> iv= e been ignoring them since i didnt like the first Variax guitars,they
&g= t; seemed to be another gimick
> wow but this ones look and seem to s= ound really good!
> I guess the only thing to fear here is electronic reliability,i would guess
> that if that went bad you can pretty muc= h throw it in the bin
> so has anybody tried one? are they better tha= n the GR-55 guitar modelings?
> any comments?
> thanx!
><= BR>> h= ttp://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom

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Per, you are a rare g= em on this list.  I always read your posts...

Happy Birthday, f= ellow Scorpio..

-Chuck Zwicky
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=0A ---795196629-834855634-1353235437=:8124-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 18 13:20:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 470FC18345D; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 13:20:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: Tayler Variaxs vs GR 55 Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 14:20:53 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01cdc58f$89a9e360$9cfdaa20$@de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac3FHwAaQzj0NbJXQx2uosQLpli/LwAb6fJg Content-Language: de Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119292 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 13:20:56 +0000 (UTC) > Hoping someone else has some hands-on experience with the Variax to = post I spent half an hour playing one recently in a shop - some of the sounds = suck (the 12string sounds too much like harmonizers) but most are pretty = much ok. I especially like the different tunings! very cool to have that = on board. If I had the money, I'd buy a Variax. I wish there was one with a = sustainer! and I still don't know if one can somehow turn the 6 string = output of the piezos into midi - I definitely want midi. The coolest thing about Variax of course is, you don't need another box = on the floor. I wouldn't want a GR-55 because it is so large and heavy! = the Variax guitar has the sounds and tunings in it, and if you like the = guitar, you are all set. -Michael =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 18 13:36:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 629B4183460; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 13:36:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=4BLlcgfpVY+naJne12bYa/Kxns+EKKK6BEHDnvNgPj0=; b=IqoObXYpWHcovIfcq9Czh+1YgAGaiPFzUcvTwYA8W6/Gwfjo5Z6at5JYvBrTUeTxzE JKtQVCdmBVQ5ODblVjFoSvflhQxICHqR7pmyw75QXTt/F5Xa3X8vuBrH18Q6UE2A2B5U 5w9MLTx29Weg9eZAqVBIPycc1o0WfS0wkRZtFp04xt9/TR7DY4UaRov0NtDAQOPlhL3D 7jLh+DG9XXslebxF/dzgW62N47bWXmm+3T8NvSbOBZnj5zOVfMfE2ucelUlXD6fs/mjF EgU4cJ1PAEUCgKDMqjxJbQBiYM/edO69RBJN6Q+wD6HbT1N/8UilMWQAVLJm0NtWLCEh 8nEQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000b01cdc58f$89a9e360$9cfdaa20$@de> References: <000b01cdc58f$89a9e360$9cfdaa20$@de> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 14:36:48 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Tayler Variaxs vs GR 55 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119293 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 13:36:49 +0000 (UTC) Tank you, Michael, that was interesting. Regarding the tunings, does the Variax allow micro tonal tunings? Or is it just like the GR-55 doing DADGAD, bariton, drop-D, Nashville toning and all that stuff? I missed to post the correct name for Rolands new guitar that has the GR55 circuitry buit-in, it is called "V-Guitar". Info here: http://www.roland.com/V-Guitar/ Oh, and thanks to M's post I now recall that Luis was specifically asking concerning fake acoustic sounds - so I'd like to add that the acoustic guitar sounds of the GR-55 sounds rather bad to me. For a "quick acoustic cheat sound" on stage I'd rather use a guitar like the Epiphone Ultra 2 that has an extra Nanomag Shadow mic in the neck besides the two mandatory humbuckers (and a separate output for the acoustic mic). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Michael Peters wrote: >> Hoping someone else has some hands-on experience with the Variax to post > > > I spent half an hour playing one recently in a shop - some of the sounds suck (the 12string sounds too much like harmonizers) but most are pretty much ok. I especially like the different tunings! very cool to have that on board. > > If I had the money, I'd buy a Variax. I wish there was one with a sustainer! and I still don't know if one can somehow turn the 6 string output of the piezos into midi - I definitely want midi. > > The coolest thing about Variax of course is, you don't need another box on the floor. I wouldn't want a GR-55 because it is so large and heavy! the Variax guitar has the sounds and tunings in it, and if you like the guitar, you are all set. > > -Michael > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 18 13:37:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4BB98183463; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 13:37:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=EkdNJIxJgTT1NKSJnprnFZU3eUYUq8fIwp5195i4Ntk=; b=NRYyduu+qecoyUS9rQ61Tw3jMJ728whkdpvaDNt0ZZ4z91NYZyAmTZNHvaQxspimi/ dPbj55BRlOcVYHdgMWgEBoGNerNr5eVU3DHeA/RttAD4M3572/ws/G21kg0VlVJPoz5Z RJhvCP5CHrapbdFWdr4TSXS9xdh3STxak305NUoTR/bpKrgh5Ry1DtOdSbBkwN4S4v/W tiJhgapqvL640fp7P3ctZdgdCSzih+alIKBJnQk2NhsV9d+USi7gC4AjrjjSnq7yGusw ytSSzWE2acNuT4OnAVcAnDosYFVpjfphGhqEjnzZvYRjzqk8jjtxA+pem29/b6XITf23 ENVQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1353235437.8124.YahooMailMobile@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1353235437.8124.YahooMailMobile@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 14:37:40 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: just a quick Happy Birthday note for Per! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae93a168fcdf8da04cec51a84 Resent-Message-ID: <2pPT4C.A.8aC.lSOqQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119294 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 13:37:41 +0000 (UTC) --14dae93a168fcdf8da04cec51a84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Luis Angulo wrote: > Happy one! Thanks, bro! :-) Per --14dae93a168fcdf8da04cec51a84 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Luis Angulo <louie.angulo@yahoo.com= > wrote:
Happy one!


Thanks, bro! :-)=C2=A0=

Per
--14dae93a168fcdf8da04cec51a84-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 18 13:45:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D30C183473; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 13:45:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=R677fMuboPk+JfT4tqoIfktW7G/Dyk3SWgntKqgTCUY=; b=Xu8Cs06a38DJbD8czOOqtavCvNsKjFg+XL57zNMyt9LnbAWFan3yR8r6DkDAnH6I8m G81+pU+pGuz2ilN/rKf/cV0Cq9XnoZR1jdWl0OLd2tAOy2lDkosRFOcqiHqzLbQBdDbD aVidbFED3AiY3U0iXqS0bZoGc+ro/Kw680X+L95JdOrdLCDqBa+18mz10hpWWgBcfK1K Grru5m74m43HLRK14K6ONwYtLUioKwf7lcvCU/jlV+2LLlymh327pNHID4hfz0uRRbcq otA34o3EaLgm4XF9DCaKoFfyDscBTWeF7ZF5KpQpuAfItNyO/leULBeAOKXR28O4RTUF WS8A== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Re: Tayler Variaxs vs GR 55 From: Simeon Harris In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 13:44:23 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <000b01cdc58f$89a9e360$9cfdaa20$@de> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: <9eHr4.A.zhC.jZOqQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119295 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 13:45:07 +0000 (UTC) for acoustic sounds, another option is to install some graph tech ghost = saddles and the acoustiphonic board into your guitar. i put them into my = superstrat and i have to say they sound really good. i split the output = from my guitar with a Y cable and run the mags into the front of my axe = fx and the piezo's into the rear. this way i can process each output = independently. the graph tech system is infinitely superior to the = fishman, imo sim On 18 Nov 2012, at 13:36, Per Boysen wrote: > Tank you, Michael, that was interesting. Regarding the tunings, does > the Variax allow micro tonal tunings? Or is it just like the GR-55 > doing DADGAD, bariton, drop-D, Nashville toning and all that stuff? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 18 16:03:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDA1B18345D; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:03:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=htqT4J136jil9vLM4iPVG1T9Dc8x0uYrvn7UY59ii+0=; b=hGKQj1nzZU3XIzRNZJaI6SqpqqiPiNChVGXRobzI2HlpGp04fDVhZw32DMxybPfB2j at4y9rCZ0Kcc8QNajySjTWNwZTxEstQK+pTdpGtPs0Invr/Z25o/MphaU4fcZwOed2z9 ZKuTNDPbsZ07cS+6QT9H7S9yqPgoTMmpF1C0VLmVS6N26hPDuNu9Xe6UCat0BPvvoK96 IlyNMyJKGWH08WjpZZQLQ6AahCACvvzfoZsyAelJS6MvA895bkhskENTEXax8VuAMq3u FPx22y+H3UwgQOYmi9di13I3L0oazahMu7AVyUchZOwVxJtzVd4rWOsggchwDRGjunTk KA3A== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Re: Tayler Variaxs vs GR 55 From: "teddyjam.com" In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 11:03:35 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <13522F4B-FD08-4E61-8366-4B489519FFB3@teddyjam.com> References: <000b01cdc58f$89a9e360$9cfdaa20$@de> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmRghnnFwvWHmAsa80z8bFIM6WX6W279Y7RgACr1BkqLDmHA7ihafPhDb9a9tyDQ8eVqdWI Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119296 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:03:38 +0000 (UTC) I like the variax and GR55 but none of these systems is perfect. If you want the best of all worlds you could get and old variax and = transplant it into a guitar of your choice and tap off the piezo to make = midi come out of it also, or just install the roland pickup on it... = many ways to go.... look at Adiran Belew's Parker Fly. it has = everything. Sustainer, Line 6, Midi out and traditional pickups... in = your custom guitar you could also install a nanomag. Mixing the Piezo, = Line 6 acoustic, GR55 acoustic and nanomag would probably sound pretty = fat. Add a Fishman Aura to the Piezo output and you'd really hear some = sweetness. If you want to keep it simple, a piezo output from ghost saddles into a = Fishman Aura would be the most natural sound, if you ask me. teddy On Nov 18, 2012, at 8:36 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Tank you, Michael, that was interesting. Regarding the tunings, does > the Variax allow micro tonal tunings? Or is it just like the GR-55 > doing DADGAD, bariton, drop-D, Nashville toning and all that stuff? >=20 > I missed to post the correct name for Rolands new guitar that has the > GR55 circuitry buit-in, it is called "V-Guitar". Info here: > http://www.roland.com/V-Guitar/ >=20 > Oh, and thanks to M's post I now recall that Luis was specifically > asking concerning fake acoustic sounds - so I'd like to add that the > acoustic guitar sounds of the GR-55 sounds rather bad to me. For a > "quick acoustic cheat sound" on stage I'd rather use a guitar like the > Epiphone Ultra 2 that has an extra Nanomag Shadow mic in the neck > besides the two mandatory humbuckers (and a separate output for the > acoustic mic). >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >=20 >=20 > On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Michael Peters wrote: >>> Hoping someone else has some hands-on experience with the Variax to = post >>=20 >>=20 >> I spent half an hour playing one recently in a shop - some of the = sounds suck (the 12string sounds too much like harmonizers) but most are = pretty much ok. I especially like the different tunings! very cool to = have that on board. >>=20 >> If I had the money, I'd buy a Variax. I wish there was one with a = sustainer! and I still don't know if one can somehow turn the 6 string = output of the piezos into midi - I definitely want midi. >>=20 >> The coolest thing about Variax of course is, you don't need another = box on the floor. I wouldn't want a GR-55 because it is so large and = heavy! the Variax guitar has the sounds and tunings in it, and if you = like the guitar, you are all set. >>=20 >> -Michael >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 18 16:06:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED3A0183464; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:06:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=C355RCJO79MEP/Dxz2WBwaaGcOPfHdUYdzQlC3yAMyA=; b=SQjyoa4BKmxRFR28PZPmbMgJ8t9/P8ZkItBgRCmS2XnYcf/1BYc9PJDNG1m06Qah5C VMQvC+UShn4RQz6ZeggbhmLJGLdEbr+lFLoARMlMtJGc80zT+NMA5TZCcgPJLWU31OY/ /3ahwb189SAm4/Hj03j45hSehO3m6xazrQqJjVc4FOsYHAPSnsVNBJifVisGvn8IwOLC qz+U8t/phOX2M2z251cXkaw0X5iJz8AtdeIePgUCls4C/olnGNmOgHUp2z3NxmcCqY1A X4QxBMXhlCd3pNrUZ4Srr6H2x+IaGhjH84gafqCtJvd+7FW74COUEh+hwZYkP/KNQzbb snnw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <13522F4B-FD08-4E61-8366-4B489519FFB3@teddyjam.com> References: <000b01cdc58f$89a9e360$9cfdaa20$@de> <13522F4B-FD08-4E61-8366-4B489519FFB3@teddyjam.com> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 17:06:50 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Tayler Variaxs vs GR 55 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <2ni6VB.A.39D.aeQqQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119297 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:06:50 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 5:03 PM, teddyjam.com wrote: > Belew's Parker Fly How come no one mentioned this sweet affordable solution earlier? Per ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 18 17:02:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D48D318345D; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 17:02:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2868 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 17:02:29 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Re: Tayler Variaxs vs GR 55 From: Simeon Harris In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:14:39 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <351686A9-B25F-43CB-A4A9-903811DC18CD@googlemail.com> References: <000b01cdc58f$89a9e360$9cfdaa20$@de> <13522F4B-FD08-4E61-8366-4B489519FFB3@teddyjam.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - viva.surpasshosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - googlemail.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119298 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 17:02:29 +0000 (UTC) yeah, it's crazy expensive, but the cost of the hardware that makes it a = beiew fly, rather than a regular fly is actually only worth a few = hundred quid. you could have a custom guitar made, or even modify an = existing guitar to have all that functionality for a fraction of the = price. you just need a sustainiac and a set of graph tech saddles = (available for many bridge and trem types) with the acoustiphonic preamp = and midi hexpander kit On 18 Nov 2012, at 16:06, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 5:03 PM, teddyjam.com = wrote: >> Belew's Parker Fly >=20 > How come no one mentioned this sweet affordable solution earlier? >=20 > Per ;-) >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 18 18:08:03 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 978A818345D; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 18:08:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_a44a4159-adc8-448d-a5da-9998e0cba754_" X-Originating-IP: [184.145.30.111] From: Jack Cattedra Sender: To: Subject: N.Y.S.O.S. Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 18:08:00 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Nov 2012 18:08:00.0359 (UTC) FILETIME=[A51F4770:01CDC5B7] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119299 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 18:08:01 +0000 (UTC) --_a44a4159-adc8-448d-a5da-9998e0cba754_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable bit.ly/wJhxK9 Hey y'all=2C Found this really "vintage" series of films that teach the fundamentals of = synthesis. It's from the 80's=2C but it's cool if you got some time to kill= . Enjoi! :p = --_a44a4159-adc8-448d-a5da-9998e0cba754_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Found this really "vintage" se= ries of films that teach the fundamentals of synthesis. It's from the 80's= =2C but it's cool if you got some time to kill.


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= --_a44a4159-adc8-448d-a5da-9998e0cba754_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 18 18:25:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB4AB183460; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 18:25:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date :to; bh=7CIJkkdkrBOPjBUdHuM0M7lnpweRboNOz/zkUaViUkk=; b=YgxTh13fs68Z07124ocLnEJKoooprGKOhegQkjuhYN9A/+hM7/ULlSo2In2iEGiY2G i2hggjcN0nlqytOlCE7qN2kvFwLjSBVdxPHZnhkjHan5Z0Jh5TU2ctpUJfSY13h0Irrz HcIMUrZXRYHH60L9klN6461Qn7ICvmtqsF9IWvATCwu4xWgrkE75/YHVDFYugKMq1pej frllAsPQ2bd4A24zHNTChMDaKL96eTPs94F8xcNEQwrQxsC9T0EEHPDMcgbqfI/LSc2R 3BUppzw2Vr18JPVLQwWedpw5uHPUQvvRfsgFTLj45ZzO7UufTV7toNFwcAyDZmhy1Tp0 ooiw== References: <000b01cdc58f$89a9e360$9cfdaa20$@de> <13522F4B-FD08-4E61-8366-4B489519FFB3@teddyjam.com> <351686A9-B25F-43CB-A4A9-903811DC18CD@googlemail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: <351686A9-B25F-43CB-A4A9-903811DC18CD@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10A523) From: Theweg Subject: Re: Tayler Variaxs vs GR 55 Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 13:20:39 -0500 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119300 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 18:25:42 +0000 (UTC) I use the Godin Multiacs steel with the GR55 and when blended properly it's a= s good as I can get for the price. My 97 Godin was my first and since that p= urchase I also own the Multiac Nylon and recently bought the fret less Multi= oud. I do sometimes run the guitar jack into a LR Baggs Venue to add more a= coustic dimension. I also own the LGXT and run it through the VG99 along wi= th the GR55. I have my first solo looping show in 8 years scheduled for Mar= ch. Now that I am solo I have the time, I had to fit a bad marriage in that= past time slot! Looking forward to the show! Last Wed. My brother and I o= pened for Bert Lams (Cal. Guitar Trio) & Tom Griesgraiber (Chapman stick) an= d now I have stick envy. Both Per and Tom are listed on the Chapman stick w= eb site. I am going to start a special fund for a future purchase! Sent from my iPad On Nov 18, 2012, at 11:14 AM, Simeon Harris w= rote: > yeah, it's crazy expensive, but the cost of the hardware that makes it a b= eiew fly, rather than a regular fly is actually only worth a few hundred qui= d. you could have a custom guitar made, or even modify an existing guitar to= have all that functionality for a fraction of the price. you just need a su= stainiac and a set of graph tech saddles (available for many bridge and trem= types) with the acoustiphonic preamp and midi hexpander kit >=20 > On 18 Nov 2012, at 16:06, Per Boysen wrote: >=20 >> On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 5:03 PM, teddyjam.com wrote:= >>> Belew's Parker Fly >>=20 >> How come no one mentioned this sweet affordable solution earlier? >>=20 >> Per ;-) >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 18 20:05:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE2E918345E; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:05:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JxwZz+tZY0IImJ9yxS3ghX6Klkw9Hx/LPVYJ5Vx0A3w=; b=XAurj89V5JjzrBYYSf57rrHb+uHbG/WWKnhdEd6YJcMUhOjkg96KnyMa1zLgQuQnoH 6i6KJq/hoslV9v4arSVYyz+qyNqrZFDsZhrFlVj6r8ZNeCyBYgOl6O82TsJg88JUB0s6 vcCx1Q47P8ppKrclvhEAFNv46f5I+fJyuMATkl7Mf9BdHo4Y+s68ReZ7qcSKyv+ofI0o uXEveNErmAtYUkR+tjIfBgkk/Cq0NAaozuZwINylwbHnr0IpI6ExErgNdJmPHj38z2et 4ARfPRxX/ITH8Yk3TafdVS/fQ3QPfE9GTmPG5CZIyCxOso9408u/W48w8pETAfqudQFF UmYQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <000b01cdc58f$89a9e360$9cfdaa20$@de> <13522F4B-FD08-4E61-8366-4B489519FFB3@teddyjam.com> <351686A9-B25F-43CB-A4A9-903811DC18CD@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 21:05:04 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Tayler Variaxs vs GR 55 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119301 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:05:05 +0000 (UTC) Way To Go, Weg! Do you ever say "Weg Zu Fahren"? Guess not, but maybe... Happy to hear about your upcoming gigs! Regarding the STick, it might be an idea to hold off a few months until the new and less expensive model Railboard is shipping. http://www.stick.com/instruments/railboard/ Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen (curious on languages) On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Theweg wrote: > I use the Godin Multiacs steel with the GR55 and when blended properly it= 's as good as I can get for the price. My 97 Godin was my first and since = that purchase I also own the Multiac Nylon and recently bought the fret les= s Multioud. I do sometimes run the guitar jack into a LR Baggs Venue to ad= d more acoustic dimension. I also own the LGXT and run it through the VG99= along with the GR55. I have my first solo looping show in 8 years schedul= ed for March. Now that I am solo I have the time, I had to fit a bad marri= age in that past time slot! Looking forward to the show! Last Wed. My bro= ther and I opened for Bert Lams (Cal. Guitar Trio) & Tom Griesgraiber (Chap= man stick) and now I have stick envy. Both Per and Tom are listed on the C= hapman stick web site. I am going to start a special fund for a future pur= chase! > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Nov 18, 2012, at 11:14 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > >> yeah, it's crazy expensive, but the cost of the hardware that makes it a= beiew fly, rather than a regular fly is actually only worth a few hundred = quid. you could have a custom guitar made, or even modify an existing guita= r to have all that functionality for a fraction of the price. you just need= a sustainiac and a set of graph tech saddles (available for many bridge an= d trem types) with the acoustiphonic preamp and midi hexpander kit >> >> On 18 Nov 2012, at 16:06, Per Boysen wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 5:03 PM, teddyjam.com wrot= e: >>>> Belew's Parker Fly >>> >>> How come no one mentioned this sweet affordable solution earlier? >>> >>> Per ;-) >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 18 20:22:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 718EA183453; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:22:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_7968532c-651b-4598-8328-95ce157b34c4_" X-Originating-IP: [92.231.14.149] From: Sergio Girardi Sender: To: Subject: quick Happy Birthday note for Per! (late, and German style) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 21:22:36 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <1353235437.8124.YahooMailMobile@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Nov 2012 20:22:37.0079 (UTC) FILETIME=[7338F270:01CDC5CA] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119302 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:22:38 +0000 (UTC) --_7968532c-651b-4598-8328-95ce157b34c4_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Meglio tardi che mai!Buon Compleanno!Happy Birthday!This video is the most = popular happy birthday hit here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D2fOzweu95= ocMay your inspiration last till the last of your days and may your days la= st as long as you wish so. Ser Date: Sun=2C 18 Nov 2012 14:37:40 +0100 Subject: Re: Re: just a quick Happy Birthday note for Per! From: perboysen@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com On Sun=2C Nov 18=2C 2012 at 11:43 AM=2C Luis Angulo wrote: Happy one! Thanks=2C bro! :-)=20 Per = --_7968532c-651b-4598-8328-95ce157b34c4_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Meglio tardi che mai!
Buon Compleanno!
Happy Birthday!
<= div>This video is the most popular happy birthday hit here: =3Bhttp://www.youtube.com/wa= tch?v=3D2fOzweu95oc
May your inspiration last till the last o= f your days and may your days last as long as you wish so.

Ser

Date: Sun=2C 18 Nov 2012 14:37:40 +0100
Subject: Re: Re: jus= t a quick Happy Birthday note for Per!
From: perboysen@gmail.com
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

On Sun=2C Nov 18=2C 2012 at 11:4= 3 AM=2C Luis Angulo <=3Blouie.angulo@yahoo.com>=3B wrote:
Happy one!


Thanks=2C bro! :-)&nbs= p=3B

Per
= --_7968532c-651b-4598-8328-95ce157b34c4_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 18 21:55:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACE0B18345E; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 21:55:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=BvUSB2G7fa8bkcKyEO87jGZOFC8cLJSROarMn4YWR9E=; b=PAuVZmDZDQ8+j94MMUM9sXVriyQktOKFwG8UGJd+WdDkzQgYCKwAL85L/XDkYmPe9j TQQSHLDQRt/y44qOmxOi7LsNnJMEVFlZFS4nZ2sIdN2gqZEZeaKOgf+CoQG95rJFHMZU cI7nzP1Yxua8vXHeeNeHSwo2dsBYW6KUH7ythDHxPyN3UvT8Lhj+14someml5s09V/9J SK1XjiMtKTN7DCs2XiBm8gs0a/ly/yEWqg9Kzg+OJkBRdvgbaDzq48odGnrJxoY0LocX l2SCyTk+JegbbYRjUoXFwbzkNs9EZ4RPCW3yNP93lQiQhNv0GCnha1tuUpTX18/MYcy6 5GaA== Subject: Re: Tayler Variaxs vs GR 55 References: <000b01cdc58f$89a9e360$9cfdaa20$@de> <13522F4B-FD08-4E61-8366-4B489519FFB3@teddyjam.com> <351686A9-B25F-43CB-A4A9-903811DC18CD@googlemail.com> From: Theweg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10A523) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <27198EFB-9FAA-445E-827C-954683638E9B@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:55:32 -0500 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119303 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 21:55:35 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for the advice, I will be holding off! Sent from my iPad On Nov 18, 2012, at 3:05 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Way To Go, Weg! > Do you ever say "Weg Zu Fahren"? Guess not, but maybe... >=20 > Happy to hear about your upcoming gigs! >=20 > Regarding the STick, it might be an idea to hold off a few months > until the new and less expensive model Railboard is shipping. > http://www.stick.com/instruments/railboard/ >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > (curious on languages) >=20 >=20 > On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Theweg wrote: >> I use the Godin Multiacs steel with the GR55 and when blended properly it= 's as good as I can get for the price. My 97 Godin was my first and since t= hat purchase I also own the Multiac Nylon and recently bought the fret less M= ultioud. I do sometimes run the guitar jack into a LR Baggs Venue to add mo= re acoustic dimension. I also own the LGXT and run it through the VG99 alon= g with the GR55. I have my first solo looping show in 8 years scheduled for= March. Now that I am solo I have the time, I had to fit a bad marriage in t= hat past time slot! Looking forward to the show! Last Wed. My brother and I= opened for Bert Lams (Cal. Guitar Trio) & Tom Griesgraiber (Chapman stick) a= nd now I have stick envy. Both Per and Tom are listed on the Chapman stick w= eb site. I am going to start a special fund for a future purchase! >>=20 >>=20 >> Sent from my iPad >>=20 >> On Nov 18, 2012, at 11:14 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: >>=20 >>> yeah, it's crazy expensive, but the cost of the hardware that makes it a= beiew fly, rather than a regular fly is actually only worth a few hundred q= uid. you could have a custom guitar made, or even modify an existing guitar t= o have all that functionality for a fraction of the price. you just need a s= ustainiac and a set of graph tech saddles (available for many bridge and tre= m types) with the acoustiphonic preamp and midi hexpander kit >>>=20 >>> On 18 Nov 2012, at 16:06, Per Boysen wrote: >>>=20 >>>> On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 5:03 PM, teddyjam.com wrot= e: >>>>> Belew's Parker Fly >>>>=20 >>>> How come no one mentioned this sweet affordable solution earlier? >>>>=20 >>>> Per ;-) >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 18 22:19:57 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 695E918345C; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 22:19:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <3x09@carlsonarts.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 22333.23102.bm@smtp115.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: Ab3nunoVM1mZPDbAYHJKlOd_CKJsOdcfYZxRENg6m0xinvc VaoKm.u31F5VMDUC0ZRyICZpzPg9PZ1SARxG5QFTfbKLHi02U_E_Mao70S5z qpwHFi8.mcP9.6DALnnCslLij3gddQ_yNb6XgW2PtfB.uyDG1gJQTzrj1m.4 Ezef6aDEoX3AtFb3UHyTPORV_9b8SuDsiBpNMSnymWxz6ywD4xoh7X13H8yo PmmzRMetPWeIR2DVzenerzbcMdV0Al4_PTv3FovnbudF4AGrfO8cyI.Lk2SL IOivTWLywCaTUNNzLi7uFDBThovPzMfOvGUOu7hZCqKQadgN2IZwU2TbEc7f Ng7aaThiUKAdCPLBhPif9GXyyB8JIfeqeYhKivDTKtJBnOMSZLawY6bV7It8 SExuyLljn1qrqx0RMevUgTzK7jEJlGddyRzn_PvYtMtyx_h.Rc0VWJX0JCDD CCUeFWzduww2mE3o- X-Yahoo-SMTP: D9yazeWswBDL7tdRauhy7AWumUUpVr1iIdv0O0tl6PLXPr1F Subject: OT: Fairline VoiceTracker for sale From: TripleOhNine <3x09@carlsonarts.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <8733EF1E-918E-4830-B60D-D7CC281CCBAE@carlsonarts.com> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 14:19:53 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119304 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 22:19:57 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I hate to part with this vintage piece of 80s gear, but I'm not making = use of it so it's for sale $1200 obo. This thing is in great shape, was = formerly at a college it looks like. It works great,, and I hooked it = up to a TV to see the full menu and tracking screens. There was some = mention that I think indicates that perhaps a battery needs replaced = inside, which would make sense. Hit me at 3x09@carlsonarts.com off list if you are interested. I will = ship anywhere for the right price. Peace, Michael Carlson 3x09= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 19 04:00:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C83B118345E; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 04:00:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=PCZOcnstUwsMsX7lk3HmskAKiLBydbDBqIRkHbaH8HY=; b=NU+zl0rmQJwUk/jIo6/Ain5+ZOLYoPJRSS7I0YJfX49LjuWKLt+Hmw1WDaaAgnuJXT iDeW0gFQpJZ5VHVG8jbiwI8Er3Z2pzOCAgVPuJ2yL/7ZIdEgJbrQFh8t2k8zM85oetiu HMobJJU/8j9A/MpclOlwPQlDXUGIMt08yn/FskuWES17YH4lBy73AAH7EON8uz/dnrbt O/9nBews/3EVcLK2k+OLqVYxee7C64xx0KEoLETHr53skwi1tq+EA2uBvBpDT8UlFtwP ktjZpKRM+dSonjj93m3U5rk5LpsNRTfLLA114+kqx7F/dZv6BLmEqg2YFf142zfUWYQC KHuw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:00:44 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=F6bius_output?= From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec53d5dfb5f04fe04ced129e7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119305 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 04:00:45 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec53d5dfb5f04fe04ced129e7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was wondering if I can ask of the m=F6bius folk once again. I've got m=F6bius running in live with tracks 2 and 3 going to separate channels and track 1 on a group channel. Everything is working when play, but when I go to render the audio the loops of trick 1 are missing and not rendered. Any ideas what I've mid configured here? Thanks Kevin --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos --bcaec53d5dfb5f04fe04ced129e7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was wondering if I can ask of the m=F6bius folk once again. =A0I've g= ot m=F6bius running in live with tracks 2 and 3 going to separate channels = and track 1 on a group channel. =A0Everything is working when play, but whe= n I go to render the audio the loops of trick 1 are missing and not rendere= d.

Any ideas what I've mid configured here?

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Thanks

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- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

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--bcaec53d5dfb5f04fe04ced129e7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 19 11:35:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 456C818345D; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:35:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NvrVPd+W94BXoENA4pyGAOH256/n/8CJ6RtlAdyOM9Q=; b=dnSshBRvAo8LXVA8926FOva2D+ZAYwayJp6ZNdzxR9XVpqp1suVOUUUNDu80del+hY siWOrteCwAlKmME1yA8DdSuse906DUp3A39b7LdqsR/DYe9IE1XyK6n0AYl9ElO9eoej szAikQdsD+D6YPOenXJnQQ/HR3ezhHYy/PjuGd5dukqNvUknOKYXpwPTGwM6+jUwK/9Z KMtD/yR8mTJ/1ClgpEBOmfwOCoq/mpomIJORO8EwtsThEkwvt9yGc3ox1H8EExr5NWoU YGCWACE8NeunQZ/VvKIbrLoX0W87gGHdxjnQBc8lfHXCCIld7K8TRUiT3GDEhPTBgKeh napQ== Message-ID: <50AA198B.5020306@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 12:35:39 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?Ikdhw6tsIEQuIg==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121028 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? References: <50a54552.6156420a.7582.0280@mx.google.com> <1353194414.8817.YahooMailNeo@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119306 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:35:43 +0000 (UTC) Below is a list of artists (mostly guitar players/bands) using Eb tuning (which corresponds to a A-412Hz base), featuring Robert Johnson as one of the earlier adopter, and, of course, Hendrix. Sure that this kind of tune both gives a different color to the sound, makes guitars easier to play, and makes it harder for all the people at 440 to cover your songs :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E%E2%99%AD_tuning Gaël On 18/11/2012 01:22, Ben Edwards wrote: > I think it's like a warble quality that Roger Waters also has. Check > out David Bowie singing on Comfortably Numb on the David Gilmour solo > DVD and then compare it to how Graham Nash and David Crosby sing on > the same DVD. Who is better? All of them for different reasons. Who > do I prefer? David Bowie even though Nash and Crosby can sing sweet > perfect harmonies. > > On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Per Boysen > wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Luis Angulo > > wrote: > > wow really? i dont think ive heard Bowie out of tune,hes a fav > of mine > > id be interested in hearing that! > > > Hey - that is exactly what I mean! It doesn't sound out of tune, he > sounds just awesome - but if you analyse it theoretically some notes > are off. "Off" might be a bad choice of word because it feels just > right, musically and emotionally. To me Bowie sounds better singing > out of tune than many other singers that nail every damn note > perfectly. The harsh pitching attitude gives an authentic vibe to his > singing. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 19 14:20:09 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64444183463; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:20:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_7e14f2b5-502d-4d85-9c62-733aeeadce70_" X-Originating-IP: [184.145.30.111] From: Jack Cattedra Sender: To: Subject: RE: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz OR WHO SAYS? lol Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:20:06 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <50AA198B.5020306@gmail.com> References: <50a54552.6156420a.7582.0280@mx.google.com> <1353194414.8817.YahooMailNeo@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> ,<50AA198B.5020306@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Nov 2012 14:20:07.0244 (UTC) FILETIME=[F9B940C0:01CDC660] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119307 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:20:09 +0000 (UTC) --_7e14f2b5-502d-4d85-9c62-733aeeadce70_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very cool! This thread is really making me realize how anything can be inte= llectualized to no end=2C especially something as obviously vast as sound. = I honestly want to thank every one that contributed to this thread right he= re. At the end of the day=2C it is what it is=2C right? We as creators can = do anything we want=2C especially in the world of experimentation and loopi= ng=2C and I think in that the world=2C we can forge and make the connection= s that WE as individuals want or need to fulfill. When we share it with the= world=2C hopefully those connections can do something for someone else too= . happy looping ::) > Date: Mon=2C 19 Nov 2012 12:35:39 +0100 > From: luneprod@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? >=20 > Below is a list of artists (mostly guitar players/bands) using Eb tuning > (which corresponds to a A-412Hz base)=2C featuring Robert Johnson as one > of the earlier adopter=2C and=2C of course=2C Hendrix. >=20 > Sure that this kind of tune both gives a different color to the sound=2C > makes guitars easier to play=2C and makes it harder for all the people at > 440 to cover your songs :) >=20 > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E%E2%99%AD_tuning >=20 > Ga=EBl = --_7e14f2b5-502d-4d85-9c62-733aeeadce70_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Very cool! This thread is really making me realize how anything can be inte= llectualized to no end=2C especially something as obviously vast as sound. = I honestly want to thank every one that contributed to this thread right he= re. At the end of the day=2C it is what it is=2C right? We as creators can = do anything we want=2C especially in the world of experimentation and loopi= ng=2C and I think in that the world=2C we can forge and make the connection= s that WE as individuals want or need to fulfill. When we share it with the= world=2C hopefully those connections can do something for someone else too= .

happy looping ::)

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---347748201-203267508-1353335213=:69643-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 19 14:27:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E74B183465; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:27:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tlAathEbIeCI82Rmnlf8JLCaoITwR1Fvi4i2CtjzDlQ=; b=p577yDSlks9z+8rDT/0Lxgjm1uzAS8wpD+/OBz9LDZCp3VUZf5tv2Y4roA5t9kVHOO 4X2wyCaH7zIgQXdZizpQjR/5SSvww73WDZP2oqktqduz+cXOgUVdSDctOk8ZZprcaSK4 Nz23Bg5eBnlhLDCbIg9IeJB/1vo7RAm/cFl1o7moiA3zKx19i+7rqsyCFKueQkU87cYk E/CxWInL6NNO/luRUBwx0qRD9L2nTkyA0q0CYIQLPXP3N7HtsNTEo+iY2VkwuYIlrYDH YtqvsKD4aAT9MxAqFMTbKTZgUfM+VVstxHvl0s7AEX0Iqqob7vtmP6QF+DeqveDR3WRf qj0g== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <50AA198B.5020306@gmail.com> References: <50a54552.6156420a.7582.0280@mx.google.com> <1353194414.8817.YahooMailNeo@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <50AA198B.5020306@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:27:03 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <83ommC.A.eEH.4GkqQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119309 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:27:04 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:35 PM, "Ga=C3=ABl D." wrote= : > Below is a list of artists (mostly guitar players/bands) using Eb tuning > (which corresponds to a A-412Hz base), featuring Robert Johnson as one > of the earlier adopter, and, of course, Hendrix Putting it that way is based on the assumption that certain frets on the guitar equals certain notes. I'm not sure I agree with that concept. I think that if you tune down a guitar one half-step you are not changing the note A but rather moving every note of the fretboard one fret closer to the bridge. The fret "formerly known as A" would then play the note G#. Some guitar players and wind instrument players prefer to name notes from the fingering on the instrument rather than from the resulting vibration in sound. I guess the name "Eb tuning" draws on that perspective. But an interesting aspect of changing the strings pitch on a guitar is that only the sounding notes are transposed but not the full tempered-tuning-shebang system. So the result will be a different micro tuning of the guitar. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 19 15:13:04 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F1E918345E; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:13:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:13:02 UTC Reply-To: From: "GINKGO - Erwin Van Heuverswyn" To: Subject: RE: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:07:55 +0100 Message-ID: <265547617272429E90AE959EAA8EE6E6@DUALCORE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119310 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:13:04 +0000 (UTC) Hello Per e.a.l (Et Allied Loopers), Interesting discussion! I can be wrong, but my first impression is that if you transpose every = string by the same amount, the microtuning (meaning intervals) does not = change. When you tune in DADGAD (Led Zeppelin) or other open tunings, the = intervals across strings change. Greetings from Belgium Erwin Van Heuverswyn=20 GINKGO sound-vision=20 email: ginkgo@telenet.be=20 GSM: +32(0)486/11 84 30=20 Krevelstraat 45=20 B-9000 GENT=20 BELGIUM=20 -----Original Message----- From: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com] Sent: maandag 19 november 2012 15:27 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:35 PM, "Ga=C3=ABl D." = wrote: > Below is a list of artists (mostly guitar players/bands) using Eb = tuning > (which corresponds to a A-412Hz base), featuring Robert Johnson as one > of the earlier adopter, and, of course, Hendrix Putting it that way is based on the assumption that certain frets on the guitar equals certain notes. I'm not sure I agree with that concept. I think that if you tune down a guitar one half-step you are not changing the note A but rather moving every note of the fretboard one fret closer to the bridge. The fret "formerly known as A" would then play the note G#. Some guitar players and wind instrument players prefer to name notes from the fingering on the instrument rather than from the resulting vibration in sound. I guess the name "Eb tuning" draws on that perspective. But an interesting aspect of changing the strings pitch on a guitar is that only the sounding notes are transposed but not the full tempered-tuning-shebang system. So the result will be a different micro tuning of the guitar. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 19 15:34:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D3B118345D; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:34:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=8uEg/FDnobaTozfW2JjWoaLhVRp6Uy00lyiGWg4yOjE=; b=t1pb6X0VoO7v8M8jPo2etCi+KKhvNeOKwesfjVaa8ztshI3/NDxjIdE3njOYdc4eBd zHjRwZD1nSmgwl2WfVC1HlVqnoft6+2Pn8/OLoajAxZzqZKui20HogipZi4vAcMOuuG/ NX/faOkq8RcdqoQbOnU0Xt/XteWfNREannIaOPW+pvH3VJvlOWdPP4THaZoG/R5jQz7Z BghKMyme8aMVPJtYtrT0cIWQ2AlQi/JEYgkY0DXgVLGKN+hDfm127ESYWr0Q4IjkGaKC rNDXbHFM1PkCeifLX2rIoQEyCalrt7VSXTpR/mE6tK28n9mqICRUqVTbcEALLheOFRTN nCQQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <265547617272429E90AE959EAA8EE6E6@DUALCORE> References: <265547617272429E90AE959EAA8EE6E6@DUALCORE> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:34:05 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119311 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:34:08 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 4:07 PM, GINKGO - Erwin Van Heuverswyn wrote: > I can be wrong, but my first impression is that if you transpose every string by the same amount, the microtuning (meaning intervals) does not change. Hm, I wonder if that was also what I was saying? The micro tuning is caused by the placement of the frets on the neck in relation to the length of the string and the intonation of how high the from the frets the strings are adjusted. Physically that will of course not change just by retuning the open string's pitch but the same mechanical issues will happen to other notes of the scale; because after re-tuning the same notes will have to be played at a different fret positions. So in a musical sense re-tuning open strings does change the micro tuning. How about that approach? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 19 16:10:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0AD26183463; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:10:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9Xpsj9ibqi3lBLgitZvjGatlkW4NA4sXsSomqBqaYfQ=; b=SVcEEaLEF1gJ3gjzKUX7+a9uafzL6pbC2jiDuszU8/6NBfr21FHh3oFwYedf3s1MCi 0G4UFTA0YtUyJV3nC17JNSjl6vPI4WzyCO7VqyoiR8QdRctt0kvSE2KGBQSg4w8PI/yY ldA1ZRgmi6BJ//SyA2ldfz6GXad+hBoNeJjm0mHAztA4epDPI2AoYw4lpWCrpLgQLgYL 2CY7rZwhKmn38Xfcd4WUE23Jr8ghTce4SxZVNpXbBHMA8UgnBjx9hd/diRY0fKUa+2Ef Ma37h7PQfVkb4X5L/TJ16+VOD8ElsIBmoAtrj3jf6oc7pg2NNO3w/a/i8VlV9MuVAp4x gvWQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 17:10:47 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Hadron Particle Synthesizer (software) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119312 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:10:48 +0000 (UTC) I just read about Hadron Particle Synthesizer. Seems useful. Anyone had any experience with this? http://createdigitalmusic.com/2012/11/grains-as-instrument-free-and-open-source-hadron-synth-now-vst-au-plug-in-videos/ Seems to be a nice mangle box of granularity. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 19 16:46:59 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4431183464; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:46:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 820862089/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.181.22/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.181.22 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoMDAKVhqlBV0rUW/2dsb2JhbAANOI48s3IBAwEDhDIBAQEEOFELGAklDwJGHAG0WpM+jhqDJwObVI1a X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.83,281,1352073600"; d="scan'208";a="820862089" Message-ID: <50AA6288.60301@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:47:04 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Vox Lil Looper for sale References: <1353335213.69643.androidMobile@web161402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1353335213.69643.androidMobile@web161402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119313 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:46:59 +0000 (UTC) Was there some particular thing about it that caused the sale? andy Paul Richards wrote: > If anyones interested, got a mint cond Vox Lil Looper up for sale. > $110.00. Modest shipping in US. > > Regards, Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 19 17:26:57 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 283C918345C; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 17:26:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Erwin Van Heuverswyn - Ginkgo" To: Subject: RE: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 18:26:48 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119314 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 17:26:57 +0000 (UTC) Correct me if wrong, but Eb tuning is just standard EADGBE with every = string lowered by half a tone As you unquoted me so well: When you tune in DADGAD (Led Zeppelin) or = other open tunings, the intervals across strings change. If you just transpose every string by the same amount, there is no = significant change in microtuning (intervals) apart from inharmonicity = changes caused by less or more stiffness of the strings (same effect = changing string gauge). Greetings from Gent (Belgium), Erwin Van Heuverswyn Ginkgo Sound-Vision Krevelstraat 45 9000 GENT BELGIUM +32/486/11 84 30=20 -----Original Message----- From: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com] Sent: maandag 19 november 2012 16:34 To: Loopers-Delight Subject: Re: A =3D 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 4:07 PM, GINKGO - Erwin Van Heuverswyn wrote: > I can be wrong, but my first impression is that if you transpose every = string by the same amount, the microtuning (meaning intervals) does not = change. Hm, I wonder if that was also what I was saying? The micro tuning is caused by the placement of the frets on the neck in relation to the length of the string and the intonation of how high the from the frets the strings are adjusted. Physically that will of course not change just by retuning the open string's pitch but the same mechanical issues will happen to other notes of the scale; because after re-tuning the same notes will have to be played at a different fret positions. So in a musical sense re-tuning open strings does change the micro tuning. How about that approach? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 19 18:07:54 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2326B183462; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 18:07:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:subject:from:to:cc:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer; bh=6P85hqqiwRWTPXkYlnlqV8BGk6NFF+6h5D5/8DO0SD8=; b=DR0OsX8nM1CXZ7USpreSib/EMoqMRinmaszYH7/yZQl4S2FenPEApbmBrIE5zkRLAt Fvn1/A1lhn7CJCgM7xd+UjlKEXbQO39/swVFkq61WUS67kO3Vc4elo62rwEfd88kR9IP 16sWp/A4kSvnGpeYiNJP4gTqUCqAXLb1o+jHIMm1X8o1W2qqZUYHuQ9WwnboIKo+6YRX 0Nt8onbdRJn3JDv3PoEDdNTbxx3zhg5FP/sOGjQXNFDZLpH9+Fa/8y3Rip+Gu/xlxl8p msQkM8ieuxjtBJu+eAkozSC+nYqt6Tzhuo3NK2dI1wRkaGHIPq9n/POUeomH8FuAljA9 6Arw== Message-ID: <50aa7576.e756420a.4c33.ffffda7e@mx.google.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 10:07:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: RE: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? From: "astralmnemonics@gmail.com" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com CC: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Seven Enterprise Gateway (v 2.0) Resent-Message-ID: <7f1Zb.A.KZB.5VnqQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119315 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 18:07:53 +0000 (UTC) yes Eb is standard tuning down a 1/2 step which doesn't change the pitch on a tuner. My korg digital tuner would still register 440Hz even when tuning to Eb, changing the tuner pitch to 432Hz would register my Eb as slightly sharp since it would still be in 440Hz. -----Original Message----- Date: Monday, November 19, 2012 9:27:03 am To: From: "Erwin Van Heuverswyn - Ginkgo" Subject: RE: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? Correct me if wrong, but Eb tuning is just standard EADGBE with every string lowered by half a tone As you unquoted me so well: When you tune in DADGAD (Led Zeppelin) or other open tunings, the intervals across strings change. If you just transpose every string by the same amount, there is no significant change in microtuning (intervals) apart from inharmonicity changes caused by less or more stiffness of the strings (same effect changing string gauge). Greetings from Gent (Belgium), Erwin Van Heuverswyn Ginkgo Sound-Vision Krevelstraat 45 9000 GENT BELGIUM +32/486/11 84 30 -----Original Message----- From: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com] Sent: maandag 19 november 2012 16:34 To: Loopers-Delight Subject: Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz? On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 4:07 PM, GINKGO - Erwin Van Heuverswyn wrote: > I can be wrong, but my first impression is that if you transpose every string by the same amount, the microtuning (meaning intervals) does not change. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 19 19:21:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F1B918345E; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 19:21:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=HXpTlkpYZAobMEVj6tTdtGhCWHhcNUFzv39s2skpSKQ=; b=TMfqPFmSIrQ0N/k3LcGJnIkByKaowceaVT121ryPpXqn2VYLi/uaP63ISz1NGG4HO5 d0jUq0czjBN5HaAHIH56RjKt+ypVXcyiATU8uk+rFyIiT3n4JqVFeAKJ/RbWP5iINwtU CXcy7962wNL4fkERKIOCv2/xcIIB4ahmVB2oUDBISmfSIu+pVj8Kqj/iINhFdftWAaNH WYmwSYr+JfXv26H4lpU5Ql4qn5la7E1gGc0NKm8bdoUO77uj7IzaXvYgau30uGZeWlMd X6x8OFUlL+AHYuryGCnBGekJ4Esa2gU8BqcaMFDJCovMHo6AVoiDh7F4r6FSkW0yjWjF AzlA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:21:39 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Hadron Particle Synthesizer (software) From: Sylvain Poitras To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6049bad653c504cede066e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119316 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 19:21:41 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b6049bad653c504cede066e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yeah, for some reason I thought of you when I read that this morning... Sylvain On Monday, November 19, 2012, Per Boysen wrote: > I just read about Hadron Particle Synthesizer. Seems useful. Anyone > had any experience with this? > > http://createdigitalmusic.com/2012/11/grains-as-instrument-free-and-open-source-hadron-synth-now-vst-au-plug-in-videos/ > > Seems to be a nice mangle box of granularity. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > --047d7b6049bad653c504cede066e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah, for some reason I thought of you when I read that this morning...Sylvain=A0

On Monday, November 19, 2012, Per Boysen w= rote:
I just read about Hadron Particle Synthesizer. Seems useful. Anyone
had any experience with this?
= http://createdigitalmusic.com/2012/11/grains-as-instrument-free-and-open-so= urce-hadron-synth-now-vst-au-plug-in-videos/

Seems to be a nice mangle box of granularity.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
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--047d7b6049bad653c504cede066e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 19 19:32:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 27AB7183465; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 19:32:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=IGOuajUZxhscMEz5AydxynWg5vJZ30dcK3W2yQGXF5I=; b=KqHsl3S4gqrA4jqXslxPQHHAZ80PC6UtwP7izYnphKlPKml73K9vCm9c6nrMwhVskV y5hje+cWRMyHNUkG4IRc3IJJgrKfcq3XK7JAs+IajU0RVpeZXUn3XbsEjkY2Vtpolm2k Cm/rAN4Y9ZCdFET0IusUu5KsZoaF4V+Zfgd15R7ntqEy6dNlC3MpvGnQ+rOC5sqsUr3x bS3iosLkpm1l+p0EfiQ+XjiC1DTq9xADxwVHxK7BzjL+sqxsObjQRNrOegrA/FQ/g/Eu TuGuhza9FQpjfB/GBuxKJMLmh67lJfABsW21XhHKBLYdxe35HY6u/NtO10j3E2d5RBrQ PUGg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:32:04 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Hadron Particle Synthesizer (software) From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119317 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 19:32:05 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > Yeah, for some reason I thought of you when I read that this morning... > Because he's so particular in his musical habits? Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 19 20:40:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7756B183464; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:40:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_a372e9b4-c065-4dbe-8383-bdf6c4758eaf_" X-Originating-IP: [205.167.120.201] From: kelly maxwell To: Subject: RE: Tayler Variaxs vs GR 55 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:40:14 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <000b01cdc58f$89a9e360$9cfdaa20$@de> <13522F4B-FD08-4E61-8366-4B489519FFB3@teddyjam.com> <351686A9-B25F-43CB-A4A9-903811DC18CD@googlemail.com>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Nov 2012 20:40:14.0336 (UTC) FILETIME=[13CF5000:01CDC696] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119318 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:40:15 +0000 (UTC) --_a372e9b4-c065-4dbe-8383-bdf6c4758eaf_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i have never played either becuz i am in the middle of nowhere=2C but i was= very close to buying a variaxe when i bought my zoom amp simulator pedal..= ...i was turned off by the way a few reviewers said the variaxe felt..... i= am not dissing it in any way=2C i would like to know how it feels from rea= l people that use it for real things instead of unkown reviewers.....i have= played guitar since the early 80's=2C so i feel that i can be picky(im als= o an accidental punner i guess)....i love the concept of both of these inst= ruments=2C and would like to know how they feel....real solid wood? good we= ight to them? good action?...the roland looks pretty sweet=2C havent looked= into it yet.....any users or players could help me=2C i would appreciate i= t....i have looked through the posts=2C and could have missed it....if i am= trying to have something repeated i am sorry=2C plz point me in the right = direction > CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > From: theweg@gmail.com > Subject: Re: Tayler Variaxs vs GR 55 > Date: Sun=2C 18 Nov 2012 13:20:39 -0500 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > I use the Godin Multiacs steel with the GR55 and when blended properly it= 's as good as I can get for the price. My 97 Godin was my first and since = that purchase I also own the Multiac Nylon and recently bought the fret les= s Multioud. I do sometimes run the guitar jack into a LR Baggs Venue to ad= d more acoustic dimension. I also own the LGXT and run it through the VG99= along with the GR55. I have my first solo looping show in 8 years schedul= ed for March. Now that I am solo I have the time=2C I had to fit a bad mar= riage in that past time slot! Looking forward to the show! Last Wed. My b= rother and I opened for Bert Lams (Cal. Guitar Trio) & Tom Griesgraiber (Ch= apman stick) and now I have stick envy. Both Per and Tom are listed on the= Chapman stick web site. I am going to start a special fund for a future p= urchase! >=20 >=20 > Sent from my iPad >=20 > On Nov 18=2C 2012=2C at 11:14 AM=2C Simeon Harris wrote: >=20 > > yeah=2C it's crazy expensive=2C but the cost of the hardware that makes= it a beiew fly=2C rather than a regular fly is actually only worth a few h= undred quid. you could have a custom guitar made=2C or even modify an exist= ing guitar to have all that functionality for a fraction of the price. you = just need a sustainiac and a set of graph tech saddles (available for many = bridge and trem types) with the acoustiphonic preamp and midi hexpander kit > >=20 > > On 18 Nov 2012=2C at 16:06=2C Per Boysen wrote: > >=20 > >> On Sun=2C Nov 18=2C 2012 at 5:03 PM=2C teddyjam.com wrote: > >>> Belew's Parker Fly > >>=20 > >> How come no one mentioned this sweet affordable solution earlier? > >>=20 > >> Per =3B-) > >=20 >=20 = --_a372e9b4-c065-4dbe-8383-bdf6c4758eaf_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
i have never played either becuz i am in the middle of nowhere=2C but i was= very close to buying a variaxe when i bought my zoom =3Bamp simulator = pedal.....i was turned off by the way a few reviewers said =3Bthe varia= xe felt..... i am not dissing it in any way=2C i would like to know how it = feels from real people that use it for real things instead of unkown review= ers.....i have played guitar since the early 80's=2C so i feel that i can b= e picky(im also an accidental punner i guess)....i love the concept of both= of these instruments=2C and would like to know how they =3Bfeel....rea= l solid wood? good weight to them? good =3Baction?...the roland looks p= retty sweet=2C havent =3Blooked into it yet.....any users or players co= uld help me=2C i would appreciate it....i have looked through =3Bthe po= sts=2C and could have missed it....if i am trying to have something repeate= d i am sorry=2C plz point me in the right direction
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>=3B CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig= ht.com
>=3B From: theweg@gmail.com
>=3B Subject: Re: Tayler Varia= xs vs GR 55
>=3B Date: Sun=2C 18 Nov 2012 13:20:39 -0500
>=3B To:= Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
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>=3B I use the Godin M= ultiacs steel with the GR55 and when blended properly it's as good as I can= get for the price. My 97 Godin was my first and since that purchase I als= o own the Multiac Nylon and recently bought the fret less Multioud. I do s= ometimes run the guitar jack into a LR Baggs Venue to add more acoustic dim= ension. I also own the LGXT and run it through the VG99 along with the GR5= 5. I have my first solo looping show in 8 years scheduled for March. Now = that I am solo I have the time=2C I had to fit a bad marriage in that past = time slot! Looking forward to the show! Last Wed. My brother and I opened= for Bert Lams (Cal. Guitar Trio) &=3B Tom Griesgraiber (Chapman stick) = and now I have stick envy. Both Per and Tom are listed on the Chapman stic= k web site. I am going to start a special fund for a future purchase!
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>=3B Sent from my iPad
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>=3B On Nov 1= 8=2C 2012=2C at 11:14 AM=2C Simeon Harris <=3Bsimeonharris40@googlemail.c= om>=3B wrote:
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>=3B >=3B yeah=2C it's crazy expensive=2C= but the cost of the hardware that makes it a beiew fly=2C rather than a re= gular fly is actually only worth a few hundred quid. you could have a custo= m guitar made=2C or even modify an existing guitar to have all that functio= nality for a fraction of the price. you just need a sustainiac and a set of= graph tech saddles (available for many bridge and trem types) with the aco= ustiphonic preamp and midi hexpander kit
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>=3B >=3B= On 18 Nov 2012=2C at 16:06=2C Per Boysen wrote:
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>= =3B >=3B>=3B On Sun=2C Nov 18=2C 2012 at 5:03 PM=2C teddyjam.com <=3B= teddy@teddyjam.com>=3B wrote:
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B Belew's Parker= Fly
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>=3B >=3B>=3B How come no one mention= ed this sweet affordable solution earlier?
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= --_a372e9b4-c065-4dbe-8383-bdf6c4758eaf_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 19 22:15:09 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACAB7183461; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 22:15:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=cmqDPJJ4zo5zIZEu0P9tZv8a1PQDgKZvsBmKUDj3M9A=; b=NL7LmNjw5nK1fzVyOSLuievIVw5v21mgfKJ2kIqnoMwKmcYfb1JRhyjcpii82kYaMf B3wycACDSAx2H6lvJamZE1aDNP/JQsm6czRrR1kMCj44CcZ4hj2qqokKVndibN/Kbwxh buMz7ZKPzbD/gPsy1j6uAwr+iiqqQf6ZGwbl2qrA/D9T2LyVWFeRTJPfmes9JgHsgsJt 2CFNzNZyGUDo/+rZmwvz8sLNrAXzoU9Gpu7SFO7o7LLZKMGXplxG92R0GPrSaBqar9q8 EdOeO0SDE0KweU4n2BeAKnMQfg1MMQ/PD/wsV/br0vCMeO70urPhPc8jebXII7z3J3dB fCPQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <000b01cdc58f$89a9e360$9cfdaa20$@de> <13522F4B-FD08-4E61-8366-4B489519FFB3@teddyjam.com> <351686A9-B25F-43CB-A4A9-903811DC18CD@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 23:15:07 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Tayler Variaxs vs GR 55 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119319 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 22:15:08 +0000 (UTC) I know the subject line says "GR55" but that's not a guitar but a modeling, synth tone and effect multi pedalboard. If looking for a guitar to compare to the Variaxe it would make more sense to look at the Roland G-5. I tried a couple of those a few weeks back at a music fair and think the Stratocaster guitar itself feels very good. Myself I have been playing guitar since the late sixties, periodically as a full time job, and my good old Japan built Squire strat have been a fav since I got it in the eighties. I thought the G-5 strat felt close to my Squire. Maybe I will look into replacing it with a G-5 when it becomes totally worn out. I do have a GR55 and think those COSM sounds are ok. Not for a good acoustic guitar simulation though (which was Luis wish early on in this thread). If playing in bands or doing studio or live musician sessions the G-5 must be excellent IMHO! You still need a good amp though, but having those alternate tunings and different pickup characteristics all inside an awesome strat is very nice. And black body with maple fingerboard happens to be my Strat favorite since way back :-) http://www.roland.com/products/en/G-5/ As for reviews I totally trust Steve Stevens as in this video: http://youtu.be/kXo8ZL5yyBU and I also think this guy does a good play-through-all-the-sound-patches demo: http://youtu.be/f-61mDxEgJw Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 9:40 PM, kelly maxwell wrote: > i have never played either becuz i am in the middle of nowhere, but i was > very close to buying a variaxe when i bought my zoom amp simulator > pedal.....i was turned off by the way a few reviewers said the variaxe > felt..... i am not dissing it in any way, i would like to know how it feels > from real people that use it for real things instead of unkown > reviewers.....i have played guitar since the early 80's, so i feel that i > can be picky(im also an accidental punner i guess)....i love the concept of > both of these instruments, and would like to know how they feel....real > solid wood? good weight to them? good action?...the roland looks pretty > sweet, havent looked into it yet.....any users or players could help me, i > would appreciate it....i have looked through the posts, and could have > missed it....if i am trying to have something repeated i am sorry, plz point > me in the right direction > >> CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> From: theweg@gmail.com >> Subject: Re: Tayler Variaxs vs GR 55 >> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 13:20:39 -0500 >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> I use the Godin Multiacs steel with the GR55 and when blended properly >> it's as good as I can get for the price. My 97 Godin was my first and since >> that purchase I also own the Multiac Nylon and recently bought the fret less >> Multioud. I do sometimes run the guitar jack into a LR Baggs Venue to add >> more acoustic dimension. I also own the LGXT and run it through the VG99 >> along with the GR55. I have my first solo looping show in 8 years scheduled >> for March. Now that I am solo I have the time, I had to fit a bad marriage >> in that past time slot! Looking forward to the show! Last Wed. My brother >> and I opened for Bert Lams (Cal. Guitar Trio) & Tom Griesgraiber (Chapman >> stick) and now I have stick envy. Both Per and Tom are listed on the Chapman >> stick web site. I am going to start a special fund for a future purchase! >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Nov 18, 2012, at 11:14 AM, Simeon Harris >> wrote: >> >> > yeah, it's crazy expensive, but the cost of the hardware that makes it a >> > beiew fly, rather than a regular fly is actually only worth a few hundred >> > quid. you could have a custom guitar made, or even modify an existing guitar >> > to have all that functionality for a fraction of the price. you just need a >> > sustainiac and a set of graph tech saddles (available for many bridge and >> > trem types) with the acoustiphonic preamp and midi hexpander kit >> > >> > On 18 Nov 2012, at 16:06, Per Boysen wrote: >> > >> >> On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 5:03 PM, teddyjam.com >> >> wrote: >> >>> Belew's Parker Fly >> >> >> >> How come no one mentioned this sweet affordable solution earlier? >> >> >> >> Per ;-) >> > >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 19 22:27:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 13731183461; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 22:27:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=6qpOMmjKEbNSsC5eiMp19VS2ssxNx5E9gxNdC6+jWs0=; b=F5StuHV59tY3O+snpXLLIILbm6fpztBIdAVYtmRrSlC/RPfp/cIfsSc2UVB/3whj4L PkDdPGTwHmdkQqXOZxZRm9c4jIMQrc/TvoXMnQBxxNwVGvYYJwA5kJDuN9gk78Xz7fH9 9wwYjET2rMoYnT7Je/lEZuWKV4pVx9aXvtUYwrMDMR13wC0Wc4Et8Toyoj1wzqzkxbd/ 19/ybOYXe+3GvHleM9EtDUQEkYNR+PyeWrYPGaxCFH4Mkrzydc1vLhcOpi5ptpcnYQue YboEwMIsr4VbdXphoVwJFzTrdNCuFd0+9DnZay+rnFw2Xc5WjkffzE2iHlQAwEbEhehr 2kDw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <000b01cdc58f$89a9e360$9cfdaa20$@de> <13522F4B-FD08-4E61-8366-4B489519FFB3@teddyjam.com> <351686A9-B25F-43CB-A4A9-903811DC18CD@googlemail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 23:27:00 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9-Z8q2GbPRCgmSRMm_CuBxl8xmA Message-ID: Subject: Re: Tayler Variaxs vs GR 55 To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b66f239e84e4d04cee09e4f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119320 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 22:27:21 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b66f239e84e4d04cee09e4f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > If playing in bands or doing > studio or live musician sessions the G-5 must be excellent IMHO! > > Wow.. now if only they would do a baritone with 2 hex pickups and a fenandez sustainer built in... -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b66f239e84e4d04cee09e4f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
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Wow.. now if only they would do a baritone with 2 he= x pickups and a fenandez sustainer built in...


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--047d7b66f239e84e4d04cee09e4f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 19 22:37:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 954E8183460; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 22:37:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=4gPC70b4pjKvAd8ylSCVCNaTe+ojaVXO7NAeUeD25lw=; b=yInJs2GDk4Tf0TChSNlUQhUBMFDYsk0uJ+GBmGUvh/Co3MsyHbeeYndo626zFzRF/E No7Mji19YQrP3qS4H6VbiSmBCMmmYqQS/9qblwgg+/cEscPK5e58f5lI/gyuOM1B43p/ HYe6FXs68hIIEza4agpVSElJjrXVyEHl5qZFwPkhHcFnm3LbHb9/Em8PqeCXQqIjfTbp QED0jDNTjEOFapEVV6RUvQKxGVRSjco1VOzBl8WFPH1J1o3ZlPTGUaurEobYVdFeeeXM mPMPK7LmjifWzjWoxSNjOf4v7XRiZKzFa5vOKvqVHrp+H3C1WEmI+ZHHp40rCuKUR1rj eFcA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <000b01cdc58f$89a9e360$9cfdaa20$@de> <13522F4B-FD08-4E61-8366-4B489519FFB3@teddyjam.com> <351686A9-B25F-43CB-A4A9-903811DC18CD@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 23:37:23 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Tayler Variaxs vs GR 55 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119321 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 22:37:24 +0000 (UTC) > On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> If playing in bands or doing >> studio or live musician sessions the G-5 must be excellent IMHO! >> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:27 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Wow.. now if only they would do a baritone with 2 hex pickups and a fenandez > sustainer built in... Yes, the fact that all are presets chosen by someone else is a bit sad when you have all that electronics stuffed into a guitar's body. But on the other hand that's kind of the point wit it. If not interested in those typical "famous guitar sounds" (which I do in fact love) one might as well go all the way and get a different physical/real instruments than a typical guitar :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 19 22:42:18 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F336183460; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 22:42:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=amu7wKV5AUr5w8K9zK04QqYqOSPVmapzwTHaQzV35ik=; b=LLcyNYNNT8r/eD81oA7iC9z84Wn5d7UuXeao3fxkDQkXOT9HD8mIXOnOLes1PehR3O jdmqXinB5cdwhmMNsMZrcnYO8x2zGfgEtGxar9qS0zl/iylYVcVlmkCULKaDQdHqjTm/ 6SjqyhY0tTXUGwtw/VBHpzo7CuYSaHLsiU8KegIhWTZOMPg6eoTV6lBBMV8nlu6kZL11 KXlhYfHQqX5jfGm7goslcbR6lEeUQ8drLlfqGU+CIyid0XdnPpdjdWbZTW+99acIsv94 T1zcpFeuyYXhfYVd3WwoZPo3mHfNAdsaJD9z4LDZXBJS7L3n+iBUMD7H30E7J3KHXzas JGAA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <000b01cdc58f$89a9e360$9cfdaa20$@de> <13522F4B-FD08-4E61-8366-4B489519FFB3@teddyjam.com> <351686A9-B25F-43CB-A4A9-903811DC18CD@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:42:16 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Tayler Variaxs vs GR 55 From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119322 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 22:42:18 +0000 (UTC) I think that you can actually create your own sounds using the Workbench program http://line6.com/jtv-59/features#createcustominstrumentswithvariaxworkbench I don't know anyone who's tried this but it looks like fun. Kevin On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >>> >>> If playing in bands or doing >>> studio or live musician sessions the G-5 must be excellent IMHO! >>> > On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:27 PM, mark francombe wrote: >> Wow.. now if only they would do a baritone with 2 hex pickups and a fenandez >> sustainer built in... > > > Yes, the fact that all are presets chosen by someone else is a bit sad > when you have all that electronics stuffed into a guitar's body. But > on the other hand that's kind of the point wit it. If not interested > in those typical "famous guitar sounds" (which I do in fact love) one > might as well go all the way and get a different physical/real > instruments than a typical guitar :-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 20 00:13:29 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D94F183463; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 00:13:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 382451.56441.bm@omp1055.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1353370407; bh=Ovw4V6KkDlUK6dPa1MbqFB51ZWhj6Ai71dZKZmyTnJY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pmUW/3FrDYTl4tbxifoLU5C1d9+vtTu4/nLsPPsR/TX81JZOvXoN01NFFG5a2mCQx/2V6q29BBA3nXi+kC2P1dGkqA9FA4aIHri/R2XCJFcbCEbeCDESTJEu4OUs7rrHmV8LmjMc3gl5SfxPtShjI8iNkkN0kLmi+K0SS5lwAcU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=A3ugozJzg1MfdGzyxHrSUqCKZ/8gRzMc4nBUA1HmfcIsnTDDeRY0LGM+d7FbYiKidUSHuJHmdR2R9gIwZbFJFXJ9ku/V4Yw8PME9dQTsLV+63Vlj6iZkOBbqYmmMRCOkxqZO0wevGhjfp66Zo7GzVUQX/Z5DF6yxVm4LZUF6EhU=; X-YMail-OSG: WN8hTKcVM1lpaR2SFJFWzfUP2ldW3_BeTOujitwE5wzywK_ srx4SyrZhJNWG7C_5lY3k797iaCVBEBF1fxQhz2E7ePLcBaZT.cRHZmsuUdD MrSNZAUgAG6L16fD6DtQU9qlz3AVsDhYY_68bYjcYTjr8sJdeR2upxeVInXE O_kQ6FGTXcl1K7CiNmWzIMw8u7NbJcQ_aUVhl_Pvco.vTkRXdJ9bqHQUQXnl eHOZ4PG0gvhgr43.rRc6Mdn2WbHzv7rlpZXQ8do3FVtDypFg7ku908ynE6hj pLfN_1iI.h1fWdtKobxwuY3nXVBDnfOQ27sbKm6uIdzGLPJLYQl5gLYxlOZM YC0mcsO_Xe7rR4JUd8v0LJ_3r4Q2J31vDwTnJx4QNAP9odSI_8EPfriC0GC9 LeKlOHPWuSmBgfdvVRm5dFbDuXA3WFLDzA_EnmieDrL3puMxWn_gXfAah3Qa Rz3maM3kXe5XE0nW.NQCsDWlWmIV1GO9o5lJMD78IBdE.m3pP.PJqx8FwRXH q5jKx_IYEBfsCGAMl7mN7hl_wLYLlDA0g82earGtKeMkR38WQK.Wt8VvFcQX 1CzrfH_STEUlr8eAZfeazkO88aQ7ZQbo8EVvTy0d6n0FoYxw61azvuURy1Bg wxhuNZicsNQ-- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,SGkgU2ltZW9uLGkgaGF2ZSB0aGUgZ2hvc3Qgc3lzdGVtIG9uIG15IGZlcm5hbmRlcyBhcyB3ZWxsLGJ1dCBpZCBsaWtlIHRoZSBiZW5lZml0IG9mIHRoZSBvcGVuIHR1bmluZ3MKdGhpcyBpcyB3aHkgaSBtIGNoZWNraW5nIHRoaXMgb25lIG91dCxpZiB0aGUgYWNvdXN0aWMgc291bmQgb24gdGhlIG9wZW4gdHVuaW5ncyBpcyBhcyBnb29kIGFzIHRoZSBnaG9zdCB0aGVuIGltIHNvbGQgdG8gaXQhCgoKwqAKaHR0cDovL3d3dy5teXNwYWNlLmNvbS9sdWlzYW5ndWxvY29tCgoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18BMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.126.470 References: <000b01cdc58f$89a9e360$9cfdaa20$@de> Message-ID: <1353370407.77733.YahooMailNeo@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:13:27 -0800 (PST) From: Luis Angulo Reply-To: Luis Angulo Subject: Re: Tayler Variaxs vs GR 55 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="506312955-661287349-1353370407=:77733" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119323 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 00:13:28 +0000 (UTC) --506312955-661287349-1353370407=:77733 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Simeon,i have the ghost system on my fernandes as well,but id like the b= enefit of the open tunings=0Athis is why i m checking this one out,if the a= coustic sound on the open tunings is as good as the ghost then im sold to i= t!=0A=0A=0A=A0=0Ahttp://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A_____________= ___________________=0A From: Simeon Harris = =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =0ASent: Sunday, November 18, 20= 12 2:44 PM=0ASubject: Re: Tayler Variaxs vs GR 55=0A =0Afor acoustic sounds= , another option is to install some graph tech ghost saddles and the acoust= iphonic board into your guitar. i put them into my superstrat and i have to= say they sound really good. i split the output from my guitar with a Y cab= le and run the mags into the front of my axe fx and the piezo's into the re= ar. this way i can process each output independently. the graph tech system= is infinitely superior to the fishman, imo=0A=0Asim=0A=0AOn 18 Nov 2012, a= t 13:36, Per Boysen wrote:=0A=0A> Tank you, Michael, that was interesting. = Regarding the tunings, does=0A> the Variax allow micro tonal tunings? Or is= it just like the GR-55=0A> doing DADGAD, bariton, drop-D, Nashville toning= and all that stuff? --506312955-661287349-1353370407=:77733 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Simeon,i have the = ghost system on my fernandes as well,but id like the benefit of the open tu= nings
this is why i m checking this one out,if the acoustic sound on the= open tunings is as good as the ghost then im sold to it!
 
http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
From:= Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =
Sent: Sunday, Novembe= r 18, 2012 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: = Tayler Variaxs vs GR 55

for acoustic sounds, another= option is to install some graph tech ghost saddles and the acoustiphonic b= oard into your guitar. i put them into my superstrat and i have to say they= sound really good. i split the output from my guitar with a Y cable and ru= n the mags into the front of my axe fx and the piezo's into the rear. this = way i can process each output independently. the graph tech system is infin= itely superior to the fishman, imo

sim

On 18 Nov 2012, at 13:= 36, Per Boysen wrote:

> Tank you, Michael, that was interesting. = Regarding the tunings, does
> the Variax allow micro tonal tunings? O= r is it just like the GR-55
> doing DADGAD, bariton, drop-D, Nashvill= e toning and all that stuff?



--506312955-661287349-1353370407=:77733-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 20 15:20:04 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 298A0183453; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:20:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=y75reBu5pPtuZXrz9k+W063nIFCB2dOvM8HyX7bXnBk=; b=NngTpUPYf/0w3rxjsUkcmkyp6gYoEYMOR0T4v3U7j19KtvA5oy2sdhqotUGGvoe0l5 U7uDTf0DATxQlV/lfxQT6bvlVOkCVsUhvipL7OVW/xSGd6R9VgzceTde5noocoKbTzpq p5+n8RJXchoRD4n4h2twtolhTVBgGDhtK5UJmhn78x1bvwrR+mWKI/gmBY0lfRX+TODs l8aKeoXu9ytNj1Vny4sPMkVjgde/JBLjHqTg6GyQ7d3fEqxSPRHWtK/WGz/y7Br7sfZ9 fH4MFr+siUxzBD6Gcjh73j6Dwz+7WxfnhjNBBY6T6mbKXL6gpIoQU1RKUpUiUfFIriAp swTw== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Re: Tayler Variaxs vs GR 55 From: "teddyjam.com" In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 09:57:19 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <000b01cdc58f$89a9e360$9cfdaa20$@de> <13522F4B-FD08-4E61-8366-4B489519FFB3@teddyjam.com> <351686A9-B25F-43CB-A4A9-903811DC18CD@googlemail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkPglRVuDxlcIm0qdnfvdXBY8YTvHCCMBd0f+OaIIB+YKQPE4NdlF2JXZhhwYB02Pbyo5TP Resent-Message-ID: <0RrOU.A._TD.j-5qQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119324 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:20:04 +0000 (UTC) I've used workbench, it's pretty awesome Teddy On Nov 19, 2012, at 5:42 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > I think that you can actually create your own sounds using the = Workbench program >=20 > = http://line6.com/jtv-59/features#createcustominstrumentswithvariaxworkbenc= h >=20 > I don't know anyone who's tried this but it looks like fun. >=20 > Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 20 16:25:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFCB518345E; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 16:25:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 11:16:05 -0500 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Moving with the Light -- A Concert and Movement Jam Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Experimental Film Discussion List Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119325 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 16:25:07 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I Moving with the Light will be an event at which improvised movement, music, and video interact as equals -- each responding to and respectful of the others. with Doctor T. - Video (See samples at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld) Eric Crawley-- Harpejji (Sounds as beautiful as it looks at http://www.marcodi.com/sights-sounds/pictures/) Kit Demos -- Bass and Electronics. YOU -- movement. Eric and Kit will play music suitable for contact improvisation and other forms of gentle movement, while I improvise imagery and all three of us react to the dancers as well as to each other. The event will happen on Saturday, December 1, at 119 Gallery in Lowell. 119 Gallery is the nicest space I've ever performed at and has a movement--friendly hardwood floor. Saturday Dec 1 at 8:00 PM 119 Gallery 119 Chelmsford St Lowell, MA 01851 Five minutes from the Lowell Connector, with ample on-street parking and an amazing Cambodian restaurant next door. http://www.119gallery.org/ Sliding scale -- suggested donation $10.00 -- "I rang a silent bell ..." -- Robert Hunter "... cast your dancing spell my way, I promise to go under it" -- Bob Dylan My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 22 16:43:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9986218345C; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 16:43:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [217.92.117.212] X-EIP: [e4PjKgwbbXeepBqmrzzzgaVFOrznB0CG] X-Originating-Email: [satyam.shivam.sundaram@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_6b11400b-9a2d-462c-a04a-ae87f62443b6_" From: Sergio Girardi Sender: To: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F3ley?= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 17:43:49 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Nov 2012 16:43:50.0473 (UTC) FILETIME=[8CCED390:01CDC8D0] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119326 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 16:43:51 +0000 (UTC) --_6b11400b-9a2d-462c-a04a-ae87f62443b6_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DSnYBSAN42Hc&feature=3Drelmfu Did not pay attention=2C sorry if you already post it.Nice work=2C don't yo= u find?And wow. When she smile at the beginning=2C it takes you in. :) = --_6b11400b-9a2d-462c-a04a-ae87f62443b6_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable = --_6b11400b-9a2d-462c-a04a-ae87f62443b6_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 22 16:58:14 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BFA1A183460; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 16:58:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 469 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 16:58:14 UTC From: Tristan Zand Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_148474AB-54F4-4C81-9A7A-D3B7A1AB6591" Message-Id: <0B334476-2DD4-419C-96BC-7B37C6242FE6@zzz.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_S=F3ley?= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 17:50:24 +0100 References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119327 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 16:58:14 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_148474AB-54F4-4C81-9A7A-D3B7A1AB6591 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I agree! :) Z http://zzz.ch http://loopr.net On 22 nov. 2012, at 17:43, Sergio Girardi wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnYBSAN42Hc&feature=relmfu > > Did not pay attention, sorry if you already post it. > Nice work, don't you find? > And wow. When she smile at the beginning, it takes you in. > > :) --Apple-Mail=_148474AB-54F4-4C81-9A7A-D3B7A1AB6591 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 I agree! :)
On 22 nov. 2012, at 17:43, Sergio Girardi <simpliflying@gmail.com> = wrote:

Did not pay attention, sorry if you already post = it.
Nice work, don't you find?
And wow. When she = smile at the beginning, it takes you = in.

:)

= --Apple-Mail=_148474AB-54F4-4C81-9A7A-D3B7A1AB6591-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 22 23:22:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 456D518345C; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 23:22:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [81.233.147.253] X-EIP: [iOrC6DeZNHzw3T8vC6Ynf/Pr6Cegpejv] X-Originating-Email: [anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_08ba8749-e3b0-463a-8de3-b7ca8324d065_" From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: Maximus (looped BEER bootle, samplewiz and octatrack) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 23:22:25 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Nov 2012 23:22:26.0088 (UTC) FILETIME=[3BA01280:01CDC908] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119328 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 23:22:27 +0000 (UTC) --_08ba8749-e3b0-463a-8de3-b7ca8324d065_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable https://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/maximusA empty bottle of Lagunitas M= aximus IPA=2C Octatrack and Samplwiz on iPad.. live improvisation... Blowin= g and tapping the bottle after consuming the content=2C sample and replay o= n Samplewiz which is resampled and manipulated by the Octatrack.. all sound= s expect drums is the empty bottle sampled and resampled.. "live"..Samplewi= z i a rather cool app=2C if you replay the sample at higher pitch it plays = it quicker=2C with low pich slower=2C and you can make i sweep first forwar= d and then backward.. so that it plays a high pitch version of the sample m= any timed while a low pitch fewer times. so to say..For example replayed on= e octave above original pitch it plays the whole sample twice as fast... an= d so on..=20 = --_08ba8749-e3b0-463a-8de3-b7ca8324d065_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
https://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/maximus
A empty bottle of L= agunitas Maximus IPA=2C Octatrack and Samplwiz on iPad.. live improvisation= ... =3B
Blowing and tapping the bottle after consuming th= e content=2C sample and replay on Samplewiz which is resampled and manipula= ted by the Octatrack.. all sounds expect drums is the empty bottle sampled = and resampled.. "live"..
Samplewiz i a rather cool ap= p=2C if you replay the sample at higher pitch it plays it quicker=2C with l= ow pich slower=2C and you can make i sweep first forward and then backward.= . so that it plays a high pitch version of the sample many timed while a lo= w pitch fewer times. so to say..
For example replayed= one octave above original pitch it plays the whole sample twice as fast...= and so on.. =3B

= --_08ba8749-e3b0-463a-8de3-b7ca8324d065_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 23 04:32:18 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6FD218345C; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 04:32:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer:x-gm-message-state; bh=KKbFa2HCZuKYOyK6ZkQMQk84SOgs9C3NqjVXgfzZfSY=; b=MacX+6KjtRHWd4UhK6+cgP1yOe8cJyL2OulKDbKKHWOc+Al112M/fGQ6hFl12pgXQ9 M/ArTzPJabP/DLkmP6HafXUFJ/cbz6Tj95+U9sMo9YvxVOca1OJXG/2oLAJQq2h3siWO LmIzvxFOBB5LoDjCsamzH+N7t9EP/gM9mruy4jMpKk0XRqh7QZfZHtsv3AvWVXS2j/Vp s7C6QCYejdzuxTo0gTNqpGANHhBNcRKe0SpJ9a3iSnNVNobAS1DwNqtH7nrDEZ0VyCiI 7EZFbA2lZt9GyInHwNQ/JTB2g3xwRLDdMiDfwkBA0Tb6udCg00wy6mMSKau5zItcwdui ViVQ== From: "teddyjam.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--471703388 Subject: Re: Maximus (looped BEER bootle, samplewiz and octatrack) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 23:32:14 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <1F056D03-1692-47A4-B15D-78DC6AC62A7D@teddyjam.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlMsdZbCQw4gcBYDOr1+2psw9CbVkSvYzFjWonFm76PBDW1WwXbi83D1+/ti/rXgZ7uKBV0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119329 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 04:32:18 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--471703388 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cool!!! how are you gett audio and midi in and out of your ipad? Teddy On Nov 22, 2012, at 6:22 PM, Anders Bergdahl wrote: > https://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/maximus > A empty bottle of Lagunitas Maximus IPA, Octatrack and Samplwiz on = iPad.. live improvisation...=20 > Blowing and tapping the bottle after consuming the content, sample and = replay on Samplewiz which is resampled and manipulated by the = Octatrack.. all sounds expect drums is the empty bottle sampled and = resampled.. "live".. > Samplewiz i a rather cool app, if you replay the sample at higher = pitch it plays it quicker, with low pich slower, and you can make i = sweep first forward and then backward.. so that it plays a high pitch = version of the sample many timed while a low pitch fewer times. so to = say.. > For example replayed one octave above original pitch it plays the = whole sample twice as fast... and so on..=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-1--471703388 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii cool!!!

how are you gett audio = and midi in and out of your ipad?

On Nov 22, 2012, at = 6:22 PM, Anders Bergdahl wrote:

https://soundcloud= .com/anders-bergdahl/maximus
A empty bottle of Lagunitas = Maximus IPA, Octatrack and Samplwiz on iPad.. live = improvisation... 
Blowing and tapping the bottle after = consuming the content, sample and replay on Samplewiz which is resampled = and manipulated by the Octatrack.. all sounds expect drums is the empty = bottle sampled and resampled.. "live"..
For example replayed one octave above = original pitch it plays the whole sample twice as fast... and so = on.. 


= --Apple-Mail-1--471703388-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 23 12:34:59 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BFDB918345C; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 12:34:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [192.165.126.77] X-EIP: [bWoKfGzlw+Tz1EuHzVoy2g6DkR1jzXIq] X-Originating-Email: [anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_087d7662-8c04-4cb7-baa2-675080e3fa6b_" From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: Maximus (looped BEER bootle, samplewiz and octatrack) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 12:34:58 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <1F056D03-1692-47A4-B15D-78DC6AC62A7D@teddyjam.com> References: ,<1F056D03-1692-47A4-B15D-78DC6AC62A7D@teddyjam.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Nov 2012 12:34:57.0931 (UTC) FILETIME=[F2BB7DB0:01CDC976] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119330 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 12:34:59 +0000 (UTC) --_087d7662-8c04-4cb7-baa2-675080e3fa6b_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Teddy=2C I didn't :-) I just recorded me blowing the bottle while tapping o= n it with the iPad directly into Samplewiz. Connected the audio out from Ip= ad to audio in on Octatrack.. started to play the sample on the iPad=2C rec= ording that audio on the Octatrack with the looping engine and while doing = that manipulating the Octatrack so that part of the re-sampled sample was p= layed on flex machines with chromatic trigs and a lot of other manipulation= =2C..=20 From: teddy@teddyjam.com Subject: Re: Maximus (looped BEER bootle=2C samplewiz and octatrack) Date: Thu=2C 22 Nov 2012 23:32:14 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com cool!!! how are you gett audio and midi in and out of your ipad? TeddyOn Nov 22=2C 2012=2C at 6:22 PM=2C Anders Bergdahl wrote:https://sound= cloud.com/anders-bergdahl/maximusA empty bottle of Lagunitas Maximus IPA=2C= Octatrack and Samplwiz on iPad.. live improvisation... Blowing and tapping= the bottle after consuming the content=2C sample and replay on Samplewiz w= hich is resampled and manipulated by the Octatrack.. all sounds expect drum= s is the empty bottle sampled and resampled.. "live"..Samplewiz i a rather = cool app=2C if you replay the sample at higher pitch it plays it quicker=2C= with low pich slower=2C and you can make i sweep first forward and then ba= ckward.. so that it plays a high pitch version of the sample many timed whi= le a low pitch fewer times. so to say..For example replayed one octave abov= e original pitch it plays the whole sample twice as fast... and so on..=20 = --_087d7662-8c04-4cb7-baa2-675080e3fa6b_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Teddy=2C I didn't :-) I just recorded me blowing the bottle while tapping o= n it with the iPad directly into Samplewiz. Connected the audio out from Ip= ad to audio in on Octatrack.. started to play the sample on the iPad=2C&nbs= p=3Brecording =3Bthat audio on the Octatrack with the looping =3Ben= gine =3Band while doing that manipulating the Octatrack so that part of= the re-sampled sample was played on flex machines with chromatic trigs and= a lot of other manipulation=2C.. =3B

From: teddy@teddyjam.com
Subjec= t: Re: Maximus (looped BEER bootle=2C samplewiz and octatrack)
Date: Thu= =2C 22 Nov 2012 23:32:14 -0500
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
cool!!!

how are you gett audio and midi in and out= of your ipad?

Teddy
=

On Nov 22=2C= 2012=2C at 6:22 PM=2C Anders Bergdahl wrote:

https://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/maximus=
= A empty bottle of Lagunitas Maximus IPA=2C Octatrack and Samplwiz on iPad..= live improvisation... =3B
Blowing and tapping the bottle after consuming the= content=2C sample and replay on Samplewiz which is resampled and manipulat= ed by the Octatrack.. all sounds expect drums is the empty bottle sampled a= nd resampled.. "live"..
Samplewiz i a rather cool app=2C if y= ou replay the sample at higher pitch it plays it quicker=2C with low pich s= lower=2C and you can make i sweep first forward and then backward.. so that= it plays a high pitch version of the sample many timed while a low pitch f= ewer times. so to say..
For example replayed one octave above= original pitch it plays the whole sample twice as fast... and so on.. = =3B




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= --_087d7662-8c04-4cb7-baa2-675080e3fa6b_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 23 13:07:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E05E918345B; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 13:07:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1696 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 13:07:07 UTC From: jrploopers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: LP2 to Germany Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 13:38:45 +0100 Message-Id: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dallas.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kliklak.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119331 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 13:07:07 +0000 (UTC) I=B4d like to buy a Looperlative LP2 myself and wonder, if it makes = sense to place a bulk order to Germany in case anyone else on this list = living here wants one, too.=20 ? 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might do

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=C0=A0:= Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Envoy=E9 le : Vendredi 23 novembre 2012 13h38
Objet=A0: LP2 to Germany

I=B4d like to buy a Looperlative LP2 myself and wonder, if= it makes sense to place a bulk order to Germany in case anyone else on thi= s list living here wants one, too.
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---609368162-556659533-1353676271=:2004-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 23 14:32:59 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 133AC183460; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 14:32:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authenticated: #113868007 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18DmZANjHIDDay5ed7PSGugI5OYU3hiHs2wNOuHvl 2mCAYZw6OO3+lN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Subject: Re: LP2 to Germany From: Christoph Lehmann In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 15:32:56 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <00315C86-2E89-40CE-B280-83DDB5431686@gmx.de> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119333 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 14:32:58 +0000 (UTC) Hey Jayrope, I think, i would participate. When do you want to place the order? Chris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 23 14:47:09 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B44F218345E; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 14:47:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [217.92.117.212] X-EIP: [4zmFqBXGP8mXkHVL0Rmjvg8HzgGpzXb5] X-Originating-Email: [satyam.shivam.sundaram@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_5be8171d-ff60-42c2-ac79-8a6fdfedee00_" From: Sergio Girardi Sender: To: Subject: RE: LP2 to Germany Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 15:47:08 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <1353676271.2004.YahooMailNeo@web132206.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: ,<1353676271.2004.YahooMailNeo@web132206.mail.ird.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Nov 2012 14:47:07.0987 (UTC) FILETIME=[696A0230:01CDC989] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119334 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 14:47:09 +0000 (UTC) --_5be8171d-ff60-42c2-ac79-8a6fdfedee00_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable might toonot much money now but I will need a battery operated looper in th= e future and if I can get this for a price I can pay=2C deal. Or I will hav= e to sadly go for the Vox 2 loops one... Let me know. SergioDate: Fri=2C 23 Nov 2012 13:11:11 +0000 From: antony.hequet@yahoo.fr Subject: Re: LP2 to Germany To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com might do De : jrploopers =C0 : Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Envoy=E9 le : Vendredi 23 novembre 2012 13h38 Objet : LP2 to Germany =20 I=B4d like to buy a Looperlative LP2 myself and wonder=2C if it makes sense= to place a bulk order to Germany in case anyone else on this list living h= ere wants one=2C too. =20 ? jayrope --- kliklak.net aircushionfinish.com prinzenallee.com = --_5be8171d-ff60-42c2-ac79-8a6fdfedee00_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
might too
not much money now but I will need a battery operated looper = in the future and if I can get this for a price I can pay=2C deal. Or I wil= l have to sadly go for the Vox 2 loops one...
Let me know.
Sergio
Date: Fri=2C 23 Nov 2012 13:11:11 +0000
From: anton= y.hequet@yahoo.fr
Subject: Re: LP2 to Germany
To: Loopers-Delight@loo= pers-delight.com

might do

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Envoy=E9 le : Vendredi 23 novembre 2012 13h38
Objet =3B: LP2 to Germany

I=B4d = like to buy a Looperlative LP2 myself and wonder=2C if it makes sense to pl= ace a bulk order to Germany in case anyone else on this list living here wa= nts one=2C too.
?

jayrope
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= --_5be8171d-ff60-42c2-ac79-8a6fdfedee00_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 23 15:23:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 04DAB18345C; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 15:23:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=g0YGiGUmvfcXku4IN28W5m4Em25LFP5VkFfE5v9rN8U=; b=gEPQMxbivCNn5SGVwkxN8tEgfwdF5L6Nw3nDikPbtDE559AbcvKcDC4ZioL0qrx7HT kSFS3OdfR8Kqq3hAeRZXvCSRi9UZlPp3MU61+uEVRFRSmNCZgu7vFusdmhYnsf59lqwM N3V98v85KKuiGU3tORoEAL+d/yTKL+ngBP/ZmRehTq5yrCFWRzK/IzuBY7Jy33QZwlxF CiaZJW7NNCwG8NnSYBM9pQJXlJW/T++TdMnOoY/AdnDogRVuCRAwcOEM2Dh0psP4ITwZ wj8myXzv6cUfIyLShyiHn+yhmIdxvWp6Dxeff4GqAJHh/QQeNucQYRgYKZZcBAuoYMau NSxg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1353676271.2004.YahooMailNeo@web132206.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 16:23:43 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LP2 to Germany From: Pawel Janowski To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b10cce94284f804cf2b2bb1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119335 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 15:23:44 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b10cce94284f804cf2b2bb1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am probably one of the few people in Germany with one, so if any of you would like to try one in Berlin, let me know. Pawel On 23 November 2012 15:47, Sergio Girardi wrote: > might too > not much money now but I will need a battery operated looper in the futur= e > and if I can get this for a price I can pay, deal. Or I will have to sadl= y > go for the Vox 2 loops one... > Let me know. > > Sergio > ------------------------------ > Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 13:11:11 +0000 > From: antony.hequet@yahoo.fr > Subject: Re: LP2 to Germany > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > might do > > ------------------------------ > *De :* jrploopers > *=C0 :* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Envoy=E9 le :* Vendredi 23 novembre 2012 13h38 > *Objet :* LP2 to Germany > > I=B4d like to buy a Looperlative LP2 myself and wonder, if it makes sense= to > place a bulk order to Germany in case anyone else on this list living her= e > wants one, too. > ? > > jayrope > --- > kliklak.net > aircushionfinish.com > prinzenallee.com > > > > --047d7b10cce94284f804cf2b2bb1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am probably one of the few people in Germany with one, so if any of you w= ould like to try one in Berlin, let me know.

Pawel
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On 23 Novembe= r 2012 15:47, Sergio Girardi <simpliflying@gmail.com> w= rote:
might too
not much money now but I will need a battery operated looper = in the future and if I can get this for a price I can pay, deal. Or I will = have to sadly go for the Vox 2 loops one...
Let me know.

Sergio
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 = 13:11:11 +0000
From: antony.hequet@yahoo.fr
Subject: Re: LP2 to Germany
To: <= a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank">Loo= pers-Delight@loopers-delight.com


might do

De=A0: jrploopers <jrploopers@kliklak.net>
= =C0=A0: Loopers-Delight@loopers-d= elight.com
Envoy=E9 le : Vendredi 23 n= ovembre 2012 13h38
Objet=A0:= LP2 to Germany

I=B4d like to buy a Looperlative= LP2 myself and wonder, if it makes sense to place a bulk order to Germany = in case anyone else on this list living here wants one, too.
?

jayrope
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I would be curious, I am at the Funkhaus in Nalepastrasse. Have a studio = there; would you like to come over some time?

=
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Objet : = Re: LP2 to Germany

I am probably one of the few peo= ple in Germany with one, so if any of you would like to try one in Berlin, = let me know.

Pawel


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--56451110-670239925-1353688925=:14795-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 24 05:36:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1990183451; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 05:36:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <50B05CF3.5020209@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 00:36:51 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #816 for November 22, 2012. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119337 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 05:36:56 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/121122.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #816 November 22, 2012. WDIY Playlist: http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels?playlist_date=11-22-2012 RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Palancar. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Ambient Train Wreck Series Volume Two" on Blue Water Records. Palancar: http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#nov I also played music by an artist who will appear at the Event Horizon on December 7. I also marked the passing of Pete Namlook. PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Chuck van Zyl Forever Distant Cenotaph (Synkronos) Art of Infinity Raum Und Zeit Raumwerk (Prudence) Vic Hennegan In the Dark Nebula Nebula Waves (Alien Tribes) Pete Namlook and In Heaven The Fires of Ork II (Fax) Geir Jenssen Palancar December 16, 2006 Ambient Train Wreck Series Volume Three (Blue Water) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Palancar September 3, 2005 Ambient Train Wreck Series Volume Three (Blue Water) Palancar October 28, 2006 Ambient Train Wreck Series Volume Three (Blue Water) Palancar November 11, 2006 Ambient Train Wreck Series Volume Three (Blue Water) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long focus on Palancar. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Serenetatis" on the Earth Mantra Netlabel. WDIY Announcement: http://wdiy.org/post/next-galactic-travels-2012-11-29 Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST/GMT-5 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 24 13:11:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21B5418345B; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 13:11:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=3BaI9fmwg08JFxGFiHkHd2wdwKW1t7fba8g/sNnOB+o=; b=0+V86T5I6JVj4Xxy0KkaoHT6Yyv8cG4QjLUAsqpfU+lJxh8c+wMi939QBz7k/3IUJt Die78y+kr8lTe8qJKqi/ZEBsiY2+fGlkQr3XnhjOQkLUnjtYWbWAe9fx1lJavpDnIImR yXOc8W1mpl1okMpNl25LmgX/RV2Lm5b7vkhzkbFOiq5LgOTSskl+NDXBuIlLMaDvW/2r Omd5aeJta9IckB6QrdyglCuo+tdOHp1luiMmxbOR5TYblQTw8LtSH2ljKWHcvnJr2tCr Qg/xJidFnnDD4K13pgf+Azrkp3YsbHXtpkC85PFUGhOyys67J2Y12CAsD+/1S5axRLEA w9Jw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 08:11:19 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: LP2 Holiday 2012 From: Thomas Wegmann To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6d7ab49ca1a704cf3d6f58 Resent-Message-ID: <1Zt1xB.A.BmD.3dMsQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119338 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 13:11:20 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b6d7ab49ca1a704cf3d6f58 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I wish I could say I was, I sometimes experience loud pops and cracks but when it works I love it. I reset the volume settings several times to adjust for the instrument I am using but still the pops come out, not all the time but when they do they are very loud in comparison. I would like to get mine upgraded or checked out by Bob but I know he is busy. I also have an LP1 and would love to get it upgraded to the latest software but was unsucessfull doing so at home. On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Ben Edwards wrote: > Awesome! I can't wait to check out your videos. I haven't tried the MIDI > out to slave effects but that sounds like a fantastic idea especially > digital delays. > > On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 12:21 PM, William Walker wrote: > >> Anyone else having fun with the Looperlative LP2? I think more reviews >> need to surface to proclaim how inventive this little under $500 pedal is. >> For me I just want to compare performance factors with other more >> experienced loopers. I will post a 1 month review this weekend on the Gear >> Page and here. >> >> >> Since the looping festival i have not had much time to post videos, but >> I plan to in the next couple of weeks. Thanks for the good word. I have >> been using the LP-2 with my normal gig rig not my looping rig. I'm having >> big fun sending midi clock to my M-9's effects and using my LP-2 to >> control the delay and effects tempo. I have add excellent results using the >> LP-2 as a clock master and will demo some of those findings soon. >> Bill >> > > -- Greg Wegmann TheWeg@Frontier.com TheWeg@GMail.com --047d7b6d7ab49ca1a704cf3d6f58 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I wish I could say I was, I sometimes experience loud pops and cracks but w= hen it works I love it.=A0 I reset the volume settings several times to adj= ust for the instrument I am using but still the pops come out, not all the = time but when they do they are very loud in comparison.=A0 I would like to = get mine upgraded or checked out by Bob but I know he is busy.=A0 I also ha= ve an LP1 and would love to get it upgraded to the latest software but was = unsucessfull doing so at home.

On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Ben Edwards= <astralmnemonics@gmail.com> wrote:
Awesome! I can't wait to check out your videos.=A0 I haven't tried = the MIDI out to slave effects but that sounds like a fantastic idea especia= lly digital delays.=A0

On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 12:21 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.= com> wrote:
Anyone else having fun wi= th the Looperlative LP2? =A0I think more reviews need to surface to proclai= m how inventive this little under $500 pedal is. =A0For me I just want to c= ompare performance factors with other more experienced loopers. =A0I will p= ost a 1 month review this weekend on the Gear Page and here.
=A0Since the looping festival i have not had much time to post vid= eos, but I plan to in the next couple of weeks. Thanks for the good word. = =A0I have been using the LP-2 with my normal gig rig not my looping rig. I&= #39;m having big fun sending midi clock =A0to my M-9's effects and usin= g my LP-2 to control the delay and effects tempo. I have add excellent resu= lts using the LP-2 as a clock master and will demo some of those findings s= oon.
=A0Bill




--
Greg W= egmann

TheW= eg@Frontier.com
TheWeg@GMail.com

--047d7b6d7ab49ca1a704cf3d6f58-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 25 03:19:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 557BF18345A; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 03:19:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer:x-gm-message-state; bh=7Jj7q+lJtYReWl9VV3vpky89f52yBBp9bhUyLK5qht0=; b=ics+V+EhuG7NVepNinjnLUx80HPhPF6EfubiV6AxZh68SvrOEDhWeh/c4x5jHUX3NI fmHMjOK89Dma571f6H3oSIyP65Inxh95hsrJ2Zbqldh4NmJTIUa0Be3auGL+rQrQOJv7 v+xIozhSN0wx1hiA3bDXOKafrcBE5uETFuOxPcSR1usE8saoshy1LlJnrf4+8UpzylUm JCkqGw+Rdj19vguqZRC+UaXbMGey7ml0H4zoK4WpnWOlfHig6pEcI+Vt2f3TqUmyDe4s XChi/UB1ylR8pw/YFcx5FLbxylYleYRIX3qV/u9uZtorhUkME8wGSbmy7uUgW8RlyPIc yGCg== From: "teddyjam.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-7--303254852 Subject: Re: Maximus (looped BEER bootle, samplewiz and octatrack) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 22:19:43 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: ,<1F056D03-1692-47A4-B15D-78DC6AC62A7D@teddyjam.com> Message-Id: <5BE24917-9842-4234-A71F-89FA2DCBCB24@teddyjam.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkNQDH5m+bapmmghRwZGpMPOaS8+k8fFoSIIvPIB8RCxc48vPsqxLLltSFQEnHAVoVg4Kyt Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119339 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 03:19:46 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-7--303254852 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii aha.... thank Teddy On Nov 23, 2012, at 7:34 AM, Anders Bergdahl wrote: > Teddy, I didn't :-) I just recorded me blowing the bottle while = tapping on it with the iPad directly into Samplewiz. Connected the audio = out from Ipad to audio in on Octatrack.. started to play the sample on = the iPad, recording that audio on the Octatrack with the looping engine = and while doing that manipulating the Octatrack so that part of the = re-sampled sample was played on flex machines with chromatic trigs and a = lot of other manipulation,..=20 >=20 > From: teddy@teddyjam.com > Subject: Re: Maximus (looped BEER bootle, samplewiz and octatrack) > Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 23:32:14 -0500 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > cool!!! >=20 > how are you gett audio and midi in and out of your ipad? >=20 > Teddy >=20 > On Nov 22, 2012, at 6:22 PM, Anders Bergdahl wrote: >=20 > https://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/maximus > A empty bottle of Lagunitas Maximus IPA, Octatrack and Samplwiz on = iPad.. live improvisation...=20 > Blowing and tapping the bottle after consuming the content, sample and = replay on Samplewiz which is resampled and manipulated by the = Octatrack.. all sounds expect drums is the empty bottle sampled and = resampled.. "live".. > Samplewiz i a rather cool app, if you replay the sample at higher = pitch it plays it quicker, with low pich slower, and you can make i = sweep first forward and then backward.. so that it plays a high pitch = version of the sample many timed while a low pitch fewer times. so to = say.. > For example replayed one octave above original pitch it plays the = whole sample twice as fast... and so on..=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-7--303254852 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii aha....


Teddy

On Nov 23, 2012, at = 7:34 AM, Anders Bergdahl wrote:

Teddy, I didn't :-) I just recorded me blowing the = bottle while tapping on it with the iPad directly into Samplewiz. = Connected the audio out from Ipad to audio in on Octatrack.. started to = play the sample on the iPad, recording that audio on the = Octatrack with the looping engine and while doing that = manipulating the Octatrack so that part of the re-sampled sample was = played on flex machines with chromatic trigs and a lot of other = manipulation,.. 

From: teddy@teddyjam.com
Subject: = Re: Maximus (looped BEER bootle, samplewiz and octatrack)
Date: Thu, = 22 Nov 2012 23:32:14 -0500
To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com

cool!!!

how are you gett = audio and midi in and out of your ipad?

On Nov 22, 2012, = at 6:22 PM, Anders Bergdahl wrote:

https://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/maximus
<= span style=3D"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Interstate, 'Lucida = Grande', Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 22px; ">A = empty bottle of Lagunitas Maximus IPA, Octatrack and Samplwiz on iPad.. = live improvisation... 
Blowing and tapping the bottle after = consuming the content, sample and replay on Samplewiz which is resampled = and manipulated by the Octatrack.. all sounds expect drums is the empty = bottle sampled and resampled.. "live"..
For example replayed one octave above = original pitch it plays the whole sample twice as fast... and so = on.. 


=


= --Apple-Mail-7--303254852-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 26 04:45:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4BFC183460; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 04:45:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=t4sgYUlHpTk0j13x2w7pJ7a/B8xPMlFgbealGLkveJk=; b=dPihDCvwnTnNQPEc2piDlAU18JPLTcsWTWCuMJaLRqb8mNJ50LWQTY0x/SWyyye6j7 Vflj9GJubWAD6Dt/E3kJQ4DFs0uBUYmlLR/xq5bdrysgxuKoRu2fK2aNrXfu49kLvQzA Hpa2PJX8HK7btLzQ7qexv+cVA5tuD35RyFl6EPnWBZpPvKFJWC5945TJjTQFn3lkUmYv yjbwVcFgc/5lf7wTxNyBnIXsRBzaDVAxpEAVPkDudGY8OaOuwOdd9nmOALTSLNFKkXwz VSlJtyfLckerjLZeKDq02b0aXxX8xg5MB/zaNHb0aXc7ghEl6SvD+nbU8ZXWqpGft32U QiEw== From: Matthias Grob Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-27--211709652 Subject: rare looper on ebay Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 01:45:28 -0300 Message-Id: To: Loop List Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119340 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 04:45:37 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-27--211709652 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii this is the thing that started this list, and in 1992/3 only 100 of them = were made! I wonder how many still work... = http://www.ebay.ch/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D181032675133#ht_46= 78wt_1390 --Apple-Mail-27--211709652 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
this is the thing that started this list, and in 1992/3 only 100 of them were made!
I wonder how many still work...
http://www.ebay.ch/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=181032675133#ht_4678wt_1390


--Apple-Mail-27--211709652-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 26 05:08:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A18F18345C; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 05:08:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=f1/ziL4MsQns/AwVw5DKbn98cH/swCjjJ9QEjhjcNtoMQOSju18IGf/ja1/kpOAV; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <13894768.1353906482681.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 21:08:02 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: rare looper on ebay Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd484844daa228a5b895fecf1e626f66aadd379a5ba0fa6c7c04350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.26 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119341 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 05:08:04 +0000 (UTC) Still got mine. it works great too! never saw that footswitch tho'.
-----Original Message-----
From: Matthias Grob
Sent: Nov 25, 2012 8:45 PM
To: Loop List
Subject: rare looper on ebay

this is the thing that started this list, and in 1992/3 only 100 of them were made!
I wonder how many still work...
http://www.ebay.ch/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=181032675133#ht_4678wt_1390


From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 26 05:10:39 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E95A183460; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 05:10:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Robert Amstadt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: LP2 status Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 21:10:34 -0800 Message-Id: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119342 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 05:10:38 +0000 (UTC) While I don't have a huge amount of time to answer emails, there seemed = to be a large amount of discussion about the LP2. So, I'll attempt = answer as many of the questions as possible in a single email. I have an upgrade that I'm applying to original LP2 loopers as they are = returned to me. I don't have an exact count but somewhere between 10 = and 15 LP2s have been delivered with the new electronics without the = issues that the original units had. I'm in the process of trying = satisfy the needs of all of the original purchasers as quickly as I am = able. If you are trying out an LP2, I recommend verifying that it is an = upgraded one because that is what will ship from now on. The original = design will not be shipped to new customers. If a bulk order is placed, I can offer a slight discount on the price = however, you will likely also have to wait 4-6 weeks as my current stock = on hand is limited. I'm hoping to be completely caught up on = outstanding orders next weekend. Upgrades I should be able to complete = within a week of receiving the old unit. This assumes that not = everybody sends their LP2 to me at the same time. Thank you for your patience, Bob From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 26 05:34:26 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD1ED18345D; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 05:34:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=rb6aJDMJ4qzUw6kTiawctWKWQeSEzGh/U5KE4RPXHDQ=; b=KNtg4W9cqOJLQaCN63jeRc73E07sG72JwvwEAil5M+HphQDjdfyUE9C4u3YwJYPOBD LMvBFUmA4I0dpQ2WT2Dd0M7DL0wR0S9bmOxSAMOTE2iK9Yb9Fuavz1BHXkSJqhr0UIu8 r0N9o5OcRn3n1OKPuX2wDr/tmQ3PSbNoI1KzwvpNwlt8YFbce94ZbArXQ2vYkbQHUjgE N9MnsifKs8dmApX083IUDipTTnSlQyUbRA8agmVoDc4dF1L6VPdF71tMKsRaGyLoZz4T hXeADY+yrFGGXk/wqXX+DpkGZVqNPCLvn4bRVm2qoHVogI/cfDAVubkVmgytbyvX+a8z bV0Q== From: Philip Clevenger Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_8BC1E178-7819-456C-8B9C-8127DD9082D8" Subject: Re: rare looper on ebay Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 21:34:20 -0800 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <05150A26-A733-406B-8123-D7F758F42E10@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119343 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 05:34:25 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_8BC1E178-7819-456C-8B9C-8127DD9082D8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Heh - love the typeface on front and back... ! If I were a collector, I'd jump on this :) On Nov 25, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Matthias Grob wrote: > this is the thing that started this list, and in 1992/3 only 100 of = them were made! > I wonder how many still work... > = http://www.ebay.ch/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D181032675133#ht_46= 78wt_1390 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_8BC1E178-7819-456C-8B9C-8127DD9082D8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Heh - love the typeface on front and back... !

If I were a collector, I'd jump on this :)


On Nov 25, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Matthias Grob wrote:

this is the thing that started this list, and in 1992/3 only 100 of them were made!
I wonder how many still work...
http://www.ebay.ch/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=181032675133#ht_4678wt_1390



--Apple-Mail=_8BC1E178-7819-456C-8B9C-8127DD9082D8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 26 08:51:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DF6F183450; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 08:51:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 818655069/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.30.111/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.30.111 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkMDAKgss1BYbR5v/2dsb2JhbAANN4YoiB+wUAQDgRuDEQEBAQQjFUARCxgCAgUWCwICCQMCAQIBRRkDAYd3A6t1cJIVgSKKLIIDghSBEwObWY1b X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.83,319,1352073600"; d="scan'208";a="818655069" Message-ID: <50B32DA0.8030203@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 08:51:44 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: rare looper on ebay References: <13894768.1353906482681.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <13894768.1353906482681.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119344 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 08:51:21 +0000 (UTC) stanitarium@earthlink.net wrote: > Still got mine. it works great too! never saw that footswitch tho'. That's three Boss FS-5U slotted together, with a Boss FS-5L added for Undo. at least, that's what it looks like. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 26 11:17:18 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B980118345A; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 11:17:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=SHnolQsEuJs7nsfP4lAsiM03niHYyCe2U2+dIt52CYY=; b=Cghdgn8OyMvu1eXw2iPYhzKdOhzvJt5uTdcvpgfr+t4BUN4ODgty9bygZn3DUhi5iA iaEMBaqqYU31v2pL5YrF+zT8NgCuYC2zNOdVvf7uWNrduDR7XJxiyPkAnAoKw8MkwW9r Qr7dDO2grM3/rkFUYn0TlHuiq8OPy/ft6TIMHSjgUM+0lbZ7xy64QzSknFAlz5hZu8R+ sbfycci8hDo0h0e8CK7W7wGoewo67GAiSGiJIXLnNi5w3FUWQU3hNo2MJ+Cp7ZNgj1s9 R/Ov12XVG3bjqgF1sxqcbAcKMMhNpxz2X1hLGBMn+xUNgClTyiu78pTbIesqevSEnQ1E xpDA== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Re: rare looper on ebay From: Matthias Grob In-Reply-To: <50B32DA0.8030203@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 08:17:13 -0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <13894768.1353906482681.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <50B32DA0.8030203@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: <0jYRyB.A.e9F.--0sQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119345 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 11:17:18 +0000 (UTC) On 26.11.2012, at 05:51, andy butler wrote: > stanitarium@earthlink.net wrote: >> Still got mine. it works great too! never saw that footswitch tho'. >=20 > That's three Boss FS-5U slotted together, > with a Boss FS-5L added for Undo. >=20 > at least, that's what it looks like. no, we bought a few hundred Bespeco pedals (maybe they produced for = Roland? or copied pretty identical?) and modified them so they have a low action and no noise. we replaced = the switch by a little PCB with a keyboard kind of button and placed a = plastic peace to protect the button from strong hits. it worked very = well and hardly broke, also because this kind of button is sealed = against oxidation From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 26 20:33:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3019218345D; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:33:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1201 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:33:26 UTC X-WS-COS: WSOB803 X-Cloudmark-Category: Undefined:Undefined X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=Lplskzh3ypXaum1JM3DXdqoBLQGa7EK56IX6hTi+Jyw= c=1 sm=0 a=1EKJ2blYo8kA:10 a=y_G-kK_KxaYA:10 a=PS5YPsqztb8A:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=50Cz1CyOAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=WJYfvIj0edXloXcl9z4A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=pQRSRbIN_rSNn95JdbYA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 a=S2kaPyZCC9o4dKRV:21 a=Fp6E85GqbznsPDnG/ms9Yg==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Message-ID: <50B3CD61.1070300@earthwormandfire.com> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:13:21 -0500 From: Chaz Worm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Grrrrrrrrg I completely forgot to type my artist bio in 3rd person for y2k =[] References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040107070103070108040204" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119346 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:33:26 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040107070103070108040204 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thats a good one. Me and my estranged guitar god brother was joking about that the other day. All sites are put up that way to make it look like the band may have one impartial fan... We do our website as a character we invented, Clifford Ratliff. We really should have done a microcosm of research. After we had already written 2 songs about him we found out (through google) that there was a jazz musician with that same name. Who would have thunk? We thought it sounded very eastern KY. chaz On 10/19/2012 11:54 AM, Todd Elliott wrote: > Well, that's ok. I forgot to not make mine a two line joke. > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:23 PM, kay'lon rushing > wrote: > > > > > -- > http://toaster.bandcamp.com > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5341 - Release Date: 10/19/12 > --------------040107070103070108040204 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thats a good one. Me and my estranged guitar god brother was joking about that the other day.  All sites are put up that way to make it look like the band may have one impartial fan...
We do our website as a character we invented, Clifford Ratliff.
We really should have done a microcosm of research.  After we had already written 2 songs about him we found out (through google) that there was a jazz musician with that same name. 
Who would have thunk?  We thought it sounded very eastern KY.

chaz
 
On 10/19/2012 11:54 AM, Todd Elliott wrote:
Well, that's ok. I forgot to not make mine a two line joke. 

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:23 PM, kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrote:



--
http://toaster.bandcamp.com

No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5341 - Release Date: 10/19/12


--------------040107070103070108040204-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 26 20:37:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AEA98183464; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:37:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=/dZAVBJvzydgI0uftos/pRQGANDYVA5VkplpPa56CHc=; b=RUTAjnOYPMlz2rDsCPrRw5TaYnXbZu5X139V/yEFY3rr3JJSjQOdAL+6eezFejKdgO d8dB8yyI8RHNsGu5noYAqmMrWwivBNVUo6Vp8w3JlvbiRBjoZBqouu98AEzEILiupeso g2JYcfYquTouAS9CW8XXRwOZdoyzAz5MzL9OGgbM8qdv6Uo6aJjSeC/iDTkI64LfMku/ PBzfMkupx/3E67QReqZRlmTNA0AEN0ojiMY2WVkKsEx8NkspKda8Ku4vQfLsaCVeA+RI Dm+xDogrHkq5nciT7MiRfTT57t2nQ9RsxF7KLXUFgRtcwclnpFYOflfboOIgW40isYO6 8jWQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <50B3CD61.1070300@earthwormandfire.com> References: <50B3CD61.1070300@earthwormandfire.com> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:37:40 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Grrrrrrrrg I completely forgot to type my artist bio in 3rd person for y2k =[] From: Todd Elliott To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3438ea93ad1c04cf6be71d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119347 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:37:41 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b3438ea93ad1c04cf6be71d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 There are (at last count) four artists using the name "Toaster", one of which is no longer a going concern. When I initially picked the name, I was sort of surprised that there were so few. T On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Chaz Worm wrote: > Thats a good one. Me and my estranged guitar god brother was joking about > that the other day. All sites are put up that way to make it look like the > band may have one impartial fan... > We do our website as a character we invented, Clifford Ratliff. > We really should have done a microcosm of research. After we had already > written 2 songs about him we found out (through google) that there was a > jazz musician with that same name. > Who would have thunk? We thought it sounded very eastern KY. > > chaz > > On 10/19/2012 11:54 AM, Todd Elliott wrote: > > Well, that's ok. I forgot to not make mine a two line joke. > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:23 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: > >> > > > -- > http://toaster.bandcamp.com > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5341 - Release Date: 10/19/12 > > > -- http://toaster.bandcamp.com --047d7b3438ea93ad1c04cf6be71d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There are (at last count) four artists using the name "Toaster", = one of which is no longer a going concern. When I initially picked the name= , I was sort of surprised that there were so few.=A0

T
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Chaz Worm = <chaz@earthwormandfire.com> wrote:
=20 =20 =20
Thats a good one. Me and my estranged guitar god brother was joking about that the other day.=A0 All sites are put up that way to make it look like the band may have one impartial fan...
We do our website as a character we invented, Clifford Ratliff.
We really should have done a microcosm of research.=A0 After we had already written 2 songs about him we found out (through google) that there was a jazz musician with that same name.=A0
Who would have thunk?=A0 We thought it sounded very eastern KY.

chaz
=A0
On 10/19/2012 11:54 AM, Todd Elliott wrote:
Well, that= 's ok. I forgot to not make mine a two line joke.=A0

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:23 PM, kay'= lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrote:



--
http://toas= ter.bandcamp.com

No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - w= ww.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5341 - Release Date: 10/19/12





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http://toaster.bandcamp.com
--047d7b3438ea93ad1c04cf6be71d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 27 05:52:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C66E818345E; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 05:52:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=Ot1fdyinz9HkFZ54o675YhYURlyocWbGiwngnVFKUvI=; b=bUnpaQd2dQXplMyGlOSzNXcuA/5Mwfs1z+NWGnPkasekn3kWSmcRIYlAkY+1+Qz4Nk LNbbBBz1c/DyRcKyOmXMCTgFhGNcMUBA2x1t5oJWeE+KV+QW/HoP+l3kvaBS5gXbraSP Mpj5OYK2nCyV8olgBweu7v+phH5We9IP2rTxCXgAAVm1zpG7790LlJpPlM7qxqi/VPTh R7h2bmsRyw+LmzZTWWubKO+1AVR+Z2ajRajBAT28I4EuQeW3a+9JyRUWEehGWOZC8gHj AiMIygFqJ7RCUAeVp+a5XUngDM2mFRqoSiIqVggjW/4GD06KIgCkK7cVMY42aDrc5QKj SqLg== Subject: Re: rare looper on ebay Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-51--121284028 From: Matthias Grob In-Reply-To: <05150A26-A733-406B-8123-D7F758F42E10@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 02:52:34 -0300 Cc: Tim Crowe Message-Id: <889C906E-D5E8-4585-80E1-709BA81DBCE6@gmail.com> References: <05150A26-A733-406B-8123-D7F758F42E10@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119348 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 05:52:41 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-51--121284028 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 26.11.2012, at 02:34, Philip Clevenger wrote: > Heh - love the typeface on front and back... ! haha, thank you! that was the first thing I created when I returned with = my macIIcx from New York (at the time the price difference between US = and CH payed the flight!) it was about my first visual creation since childhood. a few month ago = the second happened: I painted a T-shirt :-) at the time I only had MacDraw and SuperPaint that could do simple = vector stuff, so to achieve a non pixeled quality I had to use lines and = ovals and limitations help, as we know... I made several logos with it and its an almost complete font. I made = some atempts to transform it into a real font, but its still a lot of = work and probably not very useful... you are all welcome to use it in connection with your loop stuff, its = the LOOP-FONT youhou! I took the opportunity to slap some on my site http://www.matthiasgrob.org/pLogos/LogosE.htm >=20 > If I were a collector, I'd jump on this :) yes, where are the colectors? our Lizard in Concert LP of which we sold 500 in 1980 went up to 300$ = within less than 10 years by this and the much bigger historical importance and smaller number of = the LOOP delay I had expected it to go over 10'000$...=20 >=20 >=20 > On Nov 25, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Matthias Grob wrote: >=20 >> this is the thing that started this list, and in 1992/3 only 100 of = them were made! >> I wonder how many still work... >> = http://www.ebay.ch/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D181032675133#ht_46= 78wt_1390 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-51--121284028 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Heh - love the typeface = on front and back... !

haha, thank you! = that was the first thing I created when I returned with my macIIcx from = New York (at the time the price difference between US and CH payed the = flight!)




If I = were a collector, I'd jump on this = :)

yes, where are the = colectors?
our Lizard in Concert LP of which we sold 500 in = 1980 went up to 300$ within less than 10 years
by this and the = much bigger historical importance and smaller number of the LOOP delay I = had expected it to go over 10'000$... 
this is the thing that = started this list, and in 1992/3 only 100 of them were made!
I = wonder how many still work...
http://www.ebay.ch/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am= p;item=3D181032675133#ht_4678wt_1390




= --Apple-Mail-51--121284028-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 27 06:08:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B02F618345E; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 06:08:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=0tSBlm9myT0gt+Z7h7A6sPJzjkLJPcFhKUgk08mltWA=; b=RrkbrZF6XCVLBf23ojf9u9i5ipFrZxWQF1lIE1bkJ2Ox2KWozF/X2T28ew6UJUOEuE 293h500I4T9JfP64uI5A5mwcBuhuLjVLLK4rC6JuKq7bZXjww6WMTT8JPcHWyuaplQBi yat8T4gN83za1zImdnspueJq39PKQcMD+KDGBnYx6W+7gSSApeDqslrayu1mDgK5N58k kZqOZBeOFqWz/cE+k4Cvta4mn24anrK4rxh8w7dTL5Xp11iX3byF2sFJ0pEdXgUlTosQ 24zjHs65ftHiBrz1wFhm0GkVOTCeyygtZXPw2Gv0Y8YhoOXyq+zxCL0UIIMb++RWmmbF XiHg== References: <05150A26-A733-406B-8123-D7F758F42E10@gmail.com> <889C906E-D5E8-4585-80E1-709BA81DBCE6@gmail.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: <889C906E-D5E8-4585-80E1-709BA81DBCE6@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 07:08:03 +0100 Message-ID: <9149091353247491220@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: rare looper on ebay To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b66f329ba849d04cf73df0b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119349 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 06:08:10 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b66f329ba849d04cf73df0b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Its pretty simple technically to make a font, I can do it for you In a jiffy, as u say there Are a few glyphs missing J for example. mark Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 27 Nov 2012, at 06:52, Matthias Grob wrote: On 26.11.2012, at 02:34, Philip Clevenger wrote: Heh - love the typeface on front and back... ! haha, thank you! that was the first thing I created when I returned with my macIIcx from New York (at the time the price difference between US and CH payed the flight!) it was about my first visual creation since childhood. a few month ago the second happened: I painted a T-shirt :-) at the time I only had MacDraw and SuperPaint that could do simple vector stuff, so to achieve a non pixeled quality I had to use lines and ovals and limitations help, as we know... I made several logos with it and its an almost complete font. I made some atempts to transform it into a real font, but its still a lot of work and probably not very useful... you are all welcome to use it in connection with your loop stuff, its the LOOP-FONT youhou! I took the opportunity to slap some on my site http://www.matthiasgrob.org/pLogos/LogosE.htm If I were a collector, I'd jump on this :) yes, where are the colectors? our Lizard in Concert LP of which we sold 500 in 1980 went up to 300$ within less than 10 years by this and the much bigger historical importance and smaller number of the LOOP delay I had expected it to go over 10'000$... On Nov 25, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Matthias Grob wrote: this is the thing that started this list, and in 1992/3 only 100 of them were made! I wonder how many still work... http://www.ebay.ch/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=181032675133#ht_4678wt_1390 --047d7b66f329ba849d04cf73df0b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Its pretty simple technically to m= ake a font, I can do it for you In a jiffy, as u say there Are a few glyphs= missing J for example.

mark

Sent from my (advertisement removed)
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On 27 Nov 2012, at 06:52, Matthias Grob <matilists@gmail.com> wrote:


On 26.11.2012, at 02:34, Philip Clevenger wrote:
Heh - love the typeface on front and back... !

haha, thank you! that was the first thing I cre= ated when I returned with my macIIcx from New York (at the time the price d= ifference between US and CH payed the flight!)
it was about my fi= rst visual creation since childhood. a few month ago the second happened: I= painted a T-shirt :-)

at the time I only had MacDraw and SuperPaint that coul= d do simple vector stuff, so to achieve a non pixeled quality I had to use = lines and ovals and limitations help, as we know...
I made severa= l logos with it and its an almost complete font.=A0I made some atempts to t= ransform it into a real font, but its still a lot of work and probably not = very useful...
you are all welcome to use it in connection with your loop stuff, its = the LOOP-FONT youhou!

I took the opportunity to sl= ap some on my site


If I were a collector, I'd jump on this :)
<= /blockquote>

yes, where are the colectors?
our Liza= rd in Concert LP of which we sold 500 in 1980 went up to 300$ within less t= han 10 years
by this and the much bigger historical importance and smaller number o= f the LOOP delay I had expected it to go over 10'000$...=A0

<= br>
On Nov 25, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Matthias Grob wrote:

this is the thing that started this list, and in 199= 2/3 only 100 of them were made!
I wonder how many still work...
http://w= ww.ebay.ch/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D181032675133#ht_4678wt_= 1390




--047d7b66f329ba849d04cf73df0b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 27 11:05:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D41C2183461; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 11:05:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [217.92.117.212] X-EIP: [ldttGMn9qj5zh11W/ErI53X2dOTO1Ktu] X-Originating-Email: [satyam.shivam.sundaram@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_695c7414-120d-4d9f-8492-6c67604b66aa_" From: Sergio Girardi Sender: To: Subject: Ricoloop (WAS: looped BEER bootle, samplewiz and octatrack) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 12:05:03 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <5BE24917-9842-4234-A71F-89FA2DCBCB24@teddyjam.com> References: ,<1F056D03-1692-47A4-B15D-78DC6AC62A7D@teddyjam.com> ,<5BE24917-9842-4234-A71F-89FA2DCBCB24@teddyjam.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Nov 2012 11:05:04.0070 (UTC) FILETIME=[0D649E60:01CDCC8F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119350 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 11:05:05 +0000 (UTC) --_695c7414-120d-4d9f-8492-6c67604b66aa_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very delicate intimate work Anders :)The first time I have seen somebody lo= oping with a bottle it was him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dl0NBNRae_f= oHere in a more techno version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D_YNnSEZ4p8= U Searching for his videos I have found this=2C also interesting: http://www.= youtube.com/watch?v=3DA9fsi2pO-a8 Cheers From: teddy@teddyjam.com Subject: Re: Maximus (looped BEER bootle=2C samplewiz and octatrack) Date: Sat=2C 24 Nov 2012 22:19:43 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com aha.... thank TeddyOn Nov 23=2C 2012=2C at 7:34 AM=2C Anders Bergdahl wrote:Teddy=2C I di= dn't :-) I just recorded me blowing the bottle while tapping on it with the= iPad directly into Samplewiz. Connected the audio out from Ipad to audio i= n on Octatrack.. started to play the sample on the iPad=2C recording that a= udio on the Octatrack with the looping engine and while doing that manipula= ting the Octatrack so that part of the re-sampled sample was played on flex= machines with chromatic trigs and a lot of other manipulation=2C..=20 From: teddy@teddyjam.com Subject: Re: Maximus (looped BEER bootle=2C samplewiz and octatrack) Date: Thu=2C 22 Nov 2012 23:32:14 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com cool!!! how are you gett audio and midi in and out of your ipad? TeddyOn Nov 22=2C 2012=2C at 6:22 PM=2C Anders Bergdahl wrote:https://sound= cloud.com/anders-bergdahl/maximusA empty bottle of Lagunitas Maximus IPA=2C= Octatrack and Samplwiz on iPad.. live improvisation... Blowing and tapping= the bottle after consuming the content=2C sample and replay on Samplewiz w= hich is resampled and manipulated by the Octatrack.. all sounds expect drum= s is the empty bottle sampled and resampled.. "live"..Samplewiz i a rather = cool app=2C if you replay the sample at higher pitch it plays it quicker=2C= with low pich slower=2C and you can make i sweep first forward and then ba= ckward.. so that it plays a high pitch version of the sample many timed whi= le a low pitch fewer times. so to say..For example replayed one octave abov= e original pitch it plays the whole sample twice as fast... and so on..=20 = --_695c7414-120d-4d9f-8492-6c67604b66aa_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Very delicate intimate work Anders :)
The first time I have seen somebo= dy looping with a bottle it was him: =3Bhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dl0NBNRae_fo<= /div>

Cheers
<= div id=3D"SkyDrivePlaceholder">
From: teddy@te= ddyjam.com
Subject: Re: Maximus (looped BEER bootle=2C samplewiz and oct= atrack)
Date: Sat=2C 24 Nov 2012 22:19:43 -0500
To: Loopers-Delight@l= oopers-delight.com

aha....

thank

Teddy

On Nov 23=2C 2012=2C at= 7:34 AM=2C Anders Bergdahl wrote:

Teddy=2C I didn't :-) I just recorded me blowing the bottle wh= ile tapping on it with the iPad directly into Samplewiz. Connected the audi= o out from Ipad to audio in on Octatrack.. started to play the sample on th= e iPad=2C =3Brecording =3Bthat audio on the Octatrack with the loop= ing =3Bengine =3Band while doing that manipulating the Octatrack so= that part of the re-sampled sample was played on flex machines with chroma= tic trigs and a lot of other manipulation=2C.. =3B

From: =3Bteddy@teddyjam.com
Subject: Re: Maximus (looped BEER bootl= e=2C samplewiz and octatrack)
Date: Thu=2C 22 Nov 2012 23:32:14 -0500To: =3BLoopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=

cool!!!

how are you gett audio and midi in a= nd out of your ipad?
<= div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">
Teddy
=

On Nov= 22=2C 2012=2C at 6:22 PM=2C Anders Bergdahl wrote:

https://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/maxim= us
A empty bottle of Lagunitas Maximus IPA=2C Octatrack and Samplwiz on = iPad.. live improvisation... =3B
Blowing and tapping the bottle after consu= ming the content=2C sample and replay on Samplewiz which is resampled and m= anipulated by the Octatrack.. all sounds expect drums is the empty bottle s= ampled and resampled.. "live"..
Samplewiz i a rather cool app= =2C if you replay the sample at higher pitch it plays it quicker=2C with lo= w pich slower=2C and you can make i sweep first forward and then backward..= so that it plays a high pitch version of the sample many timed while a low= pitch fewer times. so to say..
For example replayed one octave= above original pitch it plays the whole sample twice as fast... and so on.= . =3B


=



= --_695c7414-120d-4d9f-8492-6c67604b66aa_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 27 17:40:26 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B4F93183464; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 17:40:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 487 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 17:40:25 UTC Message-ID: <1241352C6E3E4840B22DA93A5EFA8877@itowork2> From: "Ingo Ito" To: , "Matthias Grob" References: Subject: Re: rare looper on ebay Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 18:31:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0038_01CDCCCD.7B440630" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119351 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 17:40:26 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01CDCCCD.7B440630 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Matthias, I still have a Paradis looper as my main looper for mostly ambient = looping. I modified it shortly after I had bought it directly from Rolf = Spuler in Switzerland. Rolf had sent me the schematics and 6 Paradis = foot-switches (without housings) and I was able to build my own = foot-controller, which contains all the LEDs from the 19" device (for = Record / Overdub / Break / Insert / Multiply / Undo). The footboard is = connected via a 10 meter multicore with the device. As I=B4ve integrated = a Roland EV-5 Pedal in the footboard I can also change Volume or = Feedback (depending on the chosen status on the main device). I have a = loop memory of 199 seconds (I guess that=B4s the maximum capacity). = It=B4s still working like a charm and I was always wondering if I should = buy a second unit and combine the two delays via Brother Sync to have a = stereo setup. Unfortunately I can=B4t afford one at the moment, but = thanks for the hint. You did a brilliant job with this device :-) Best regards Ingo Ito www.itofarm.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Matthias Grob=20 To: Loop List=20 Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 5:45 AM Subject: rare looper on ebay this is the thing that started this list, and in 1992/3 only 100 of = them were made! I wonder how many still work... = http://www.ebay.ch/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D181032675133#ht_4= 678wt_1390 ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01CDCCCD.7B440630 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Matthias,
 
I still have a Paradis looper as my main = looper for=20 mostly ambient looping. I modified it shortly after I had bought it = directly=20 from Rolf Spuler in Switzerland. Rolf had sent me the schematics and 6 = Paradis=20 foot-switches (without housings) and I was able to build my=20 own foot-controller, which contains all the LEDs from the 19" = device (for=20 Record / Overdub / Break / Insert / Multiply / Undo). The footboard is = connected=20 via a 10 meter multicore with the device. As I=B4ve integrated a Roland = EV-5 Pedal=20 in the footboard I can also change Volume or Feedback = (depending on=20 the chosen status on the main device). I have a loop memory of 199 = seconds (I=20 guess that=B4s the maximum capacity). It=B4s still working like a = charm and I=20 was always wondering if I should buy a second unit and combine the two=20 delays via Brother Sync to have a stereo setup. Unfortunately = I can=B4t=20 afford one at the moment, but thanks for the hint.
 
You did a brilliant job with this device=20 :-)
 
Best regards
 
Ingo Ito
 
 
www.itofarm.com
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Matthias=20 Grob
To: Loop List =
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 = 5:45=20 AM
Subject: rare looper on = ebay

this is the thing that started this list, and in 1992/3 only 100 = of them=20 were made!
I wonder how many still work...
http://www.ebay.ch/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&= amp;item=3D181032675133#ht_4678wt_1390


------=_NextPart_000_0038_01CDCCCD.7B440630-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 27 23:08:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B453318345C; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 23:08:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=zfetsn2n1KdBMxssFGACuxLnk5vzr3o30SMoezJIrdw=; b=SXW6fya7VZm7EOaGwlon9UG9rQI6VRTB6SUwokURIZHodouz50XCeK6e8KMLXk9HT7 C2yptZTQZ+BtHyT6gePqoxfydqeJjt7PUH8XsgjTuunbuLufgRo9yUgTEkVDo7Vkpn9Z vAik6HZhSM9osi46JhJ1xP6+QYj5WRT8b6uaWljBibF4SxluykJJR1LdbKOYZ4LCPXGD dlOMjstOg1SJQmZeBurCyzR6DkhYqr0C2JucMKZC1RNNi+vjrJBamBU2izpRgc88hYPP sQ9P2v+Au1wEPG+70W+Ir+IRNXulL8aRZp8tRagDtIbXNV9jqQ9uPYzfyajERUGvdx74 GXEQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 00:08:13 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7sfcu5BdENck8syVHaP41FE93A8 Message-ID: Subject: Echoloop in Mulch problems To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6042fa0b695304cf82214f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119352 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 23:08:36 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b6042fa0b695304cf82214f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Im back in nasty software land for a bit (due to an impending gig in Italy, where I cant possibly afford to take the Big Fat Mamma - (my affectionate name for my rack) and of course am bogged down in my usual settings troubles... Im trying to set up Echoloop in AudioMulch. Ive got it working and looping and reacting to my pedalboard ok, but can=B4t.... A) Synch it to Mulch. When I use M=F6bius I just set the plugin out to the IAC Driver and then Mulch pick that up and plays at that speed.. cant get that to work with Echoloop as the Master. It s options are: OFF IN HOST IN MIDI OUT OUT START SONG & B) Synch it to another instance of Echoloop.. Again, working perfectly from the same footpedal, but not syncronised together... On a related note. (IE: getting shit to work) Maybe directed to Per, how do I get tempo information BACK INTO the GR55 (for slicer and delay sync) from a software source (assuming I get all the above working...) Thank you Over and out.. M --=20 *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b6042fa0b695304cf82214f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

Im back in nasty software land for a bit (due to an impending gi= g in Italy, where I cant possibly afford to take the Big Fat Mamma - (my af= fectionate name for my rack) and of course am bogged down in my usual setti= ngs troubles...

Im trying to set up Echoloop in AudioMulch. Ive got it working and loop= ing and reacting to my pedalboard ok, but can=B4t....

A)

Syn= ch it to Mulch. When I use M=F6bius I just set the plugin out to the IAC Dr= iver and then Mulch pick that up and plays at that speed.. cant get that to= work with Echoloop as the Master. It s options are:
OFF
IN HOST
IN MIDI
OUT
OUT START SONG

&

B) <= br>
Synch it to another instance of Echoloop.. Again, working perfectly = from the same footpedal, but not syncronised together...

On a relate= d note. (IE: getting shit to work) Maybe directed to Per, how do I get temp= o information BACK INTO the GR55 (for slicer and delay sync) from a softwar= e source (assuming I get all the above working...)

Thank you

Over and out..

M

--
<= i style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(255,255,255);background= -color:rgb(0,0,0)">Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
<= /font>
--047d7b6042fa0b695304cf82214f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 27 23:32:14 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B5A718345D; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 23:32:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=hGik/6RQf3b0Dbebm4J23K2JQzAkbr6VuZkkMLVPlms=; b=WxyZVXkNlfG1k7MTGq+/qDLn7f1qUWyFkXzsnxNUpjEkRuIRXWdYvGqS5gMQ7QKYo+ WnA32Z40qrdipBQMhCYLSJnYjzcgMZccow1iQ60ZqKCe583FGjbuI1tAUNjHNi7uYHz9 Uxe7oqEYkmrlvt7QqwpkfBK3YAXszlzlGoIL250ecZMKhIuQeDP8FHw0gzUYo39dsz88 eg2RP3rp2kTP7rzxtv6/k0n50Hqst1TgFGUSyAWhM9CE/io8NatV7ILvOcCr/f5hXn0x 2+TijC5DP6sb8hfUGSUprYsDpnORplsliV/vkrxwW06qqrLFRMJzWlh85ao4lPuG7oQ4 i+Og== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 00:32:12 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Echoloop in Mulch problems From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119353 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 23:32:13 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:08 AM, mark francombe wrote: > On a related note. (IE: getting shit to work) Maybe directed to Per, how do > I get tempo information BACK INTO the GR55 (for slicer and delay sync) from > a software source (assuming I get all the above working...) MIDI Clock. I do like this: pop a USB cable into the laptop and the GR-55. In Mobius I set the looper to use that MIDI Port as the "Plugin Output Device" (together with the IAC Bus that slaving software on the laptop follows). I did not notice a setting in the GR-55 to switch it between master and slave sync mode so I guess it just fell in right by its own devices. The method above should work with a MIDI cable too, but I prefer USB cables because I can keep a bunch of them gaffer taped to a MIDI Hub that I plug into the lappy for fast setting up. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 27 23:43:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A21A6183462; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 23:43:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=2rW4uabWJnKa3Gmsjvm7BCeaxe0tZ/jKI6fNmZ9aNJ4=; b=s2ZINNWf+rO0+/VsBIY3W1pomwH/pBtXf955j/KnMTESfB9Pb/3fUZWXWOyl25izV3 qCeujkavTRjPOCoPeHX8OwULwY8zpahm+xrjFaqjfdUBjV8wyULrYgX6mfZEXVtJUTGE OgNm5W1E9f/Q7LcENpJT3GgPZQ0R7c9S5M1fUVWmNcDQvTbfBINXzX3SdSRxGbai9nh1 X4zdlmvkAQlBk2RfNWr3/uEt7yoh1wrQtlhlfGLlG7fgJwNbjLHTdHfmLHjbiagcX3yc Lr/nwAgG5QJAY7MpOKq6Xqq5AUdRpXPvDrvX6JGqn843ZOH7+UDZELS8bbWlbBlOXHqs yvIQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 00:43:29 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: esFAhFxucB7ddTK95C4XqjTvm8Q Message-ID: Subject: Re: Echoloop in Mulch problems To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b66f329285db304cf829f84 Resent-Message-ID: <8477QD.A.wnG.2AVtQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119354 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 23:43:51 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b66f329285db304cf829f84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 MIDI Clock. Ha ha.. very funny.. I am aware of the concept.. But maybe I should describe my current attempt. USB cable from GR55 to USBHub, to laptop. FCP1010 into midisport midi in port A, USB from midisport into Midi Hub. IN Mobius I DO set PlugIN OUT to IAC (re previous point that echoloop doesnt give IAC as an option) So.. Is that IT? How do I ensure that midi is going back OUT to GR55? (Im used to cables and inand out sockets remember.. not magical busses.) Cos none of the rythym based patches seem to be firing.. (the delays are playing and the tremlos are playing, but the synth patches with built in rythms are not... in my hardware world that suggests lack of clock... But you gave me a clue.. maybe I need to get down on my knees and peek at the setting in GR... I was assuming cos it worked with midi cable the settings would be the same for USB.. maybe not? M On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:32 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:08 AM, mark francombe > wrote: > > On a related note. (IE: getting shit to work) Maybe directed to Per, how > do > > I get tempo information BACK INTO the GR55 (for slicer and delay sync) > from > > a software source (assuming I get all the above working...) > > MIDI Clock. > > I do like this: pop a USB cable into the laptop and the GR-55. In > Mobius I set the looper to use that MIDI Port as the "Plugin Output > Device" (together with the IAC Bus that slaving software on the laptop > follows). I did not notice a setting in the GR-55 to switch it between > master and slave sync mode so I guess it just fell in right by its own > devices. > > The method above should work with a MIDI cable too, but I prefer USB > cables because I can keep a bunch of them gaffer taped to a MIDI Hub > that I plug into the lappy for fast setting up. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b66f329285db304cf829f84 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIDI Clock.

Ha ha.. very funny.. I am aware of the concept.. But may= be I should describe my current attempt.
USB cable from GR55=A0 to USBHu= b, to laptop. FCP1010 into midisport midi in port A, USB from midisport int= o Midi Hub.

IN Mobius I DO set PlugIN OUT to IAC (re previous point that echoloop d= oesnt give IAC as an option) So.. Is that IT? How do I ensure that midi is = going back OUT to GR55? (Im used to cables and inand out sockets remember..= not magical busses.)

Cos none of the rythym based patches seem to be firing.. (the delays ar= e playing and the tremlos are playing, but the synth patches with built in = rythms are not... in my hardware world that suggests lack of clock... But y= ou gave me a clue.. maybe I need to get down on my knees and peek at the se= tting in GR... I was assuming cos it worked with midi cable the settings wo= uld be the same for USB.. maybe not?

M




On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:32 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12= :08 AM, mark francombe <mark@m= arkfrancombe.com> wrote:
> On a related note. (IE: getting shit to work) Maybe directed to Per, h= ow do
> I get tempo information BACK INTO the GR55 (for slicer and delay sync)= from
> a software source (assuming I get all the above working...)

MIDI Clock.

I do like this: pop a USB cable into the laptop and the GR-55. In
Mobius I set the looper to use that MIDI Port as the "Plugin Output Device" (together with the IAC Bus that slaving software on the laptop=
follows). I did not notice a setting in the GR-55 to switch it between
master and slave sync mode so I guess it just fell in right by its own
devices.

The method above should work with a MIDI cable too, but I prefer USB
cables because I can keep a bunch of them gaffer taped to a MIDI Hub
that I plug into the lappy for fast setting up.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.y= outube.com/perboysen




--
= Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
<= /font>
--047d7b66f329285db304cf829f84-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 27 23:45:48 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8878A18345E; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 23:45:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=sCXujRrnDTktNAS2GPtIAi1MepWlM4Gt5lhzU2ZJs/g=; b=HjIcgqg4xT+udZxDJROA/POOcESLYvOmUsNETgI22sDfekUv62uR7Q0p/9DbUX0GR/ tCrpiw94PAIIvOs4T3BkRCcd7LcZo+Q/2S+l/I8s3i7aZnBd76jTlpYde1Wo3OUmbfS2 3lKoTa3qZeviVqQHWrjZNy0Siem/LZuoPzW54aovwaVVmgpGW4aNihnrVkXhGcUdxnVH /0edCRNvEiVbKQ8xaZ0otStOaOLX12cQiA5G+BdMkzz4j/hQ9Bvx503hkoTG6XgoDyka FnQCUcVFS3+93Ttms/hsI1fhZ0ikw3Jf0f0yxZ+bF0s2sNd7o457APsZdvp0ozdNQl6D IBXg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 15:45:47 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Echoloop in Mulch problems From: Todd Elliott To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b62226e27445504cf82a6f2 Resent-Message-ID: <-JVfEC.A.7tG.sCVtQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119355 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 23:45:48 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b62226e27445504cf82a6f2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This may seem a dippy question, but are you pressing 'play' in Audiomulch? T On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 3:43 PM, mark francombe wrote: > MIDI Clock. > > Ha ha.. very funny.. I am aware of the concept.. But maybe I should > describe my current attempt. > USB cable from GR55 to USBHub, to laptop. FCP1010 into midisport midi in > port A, USB from midisport into Midi Hub. > > IN Mobius I DO set PlugIN OUT to IAC (re previous point that echoloop > doesnt give IAC as an option) So.. Is that IT? How do I ensure that midi is > going back OUT to GR55? (Im used to cables and inand out sockets remember.. > not magical busses.) > > Cos none of the rythym based patches seem to be firing.. (the delays are > playing and the tremlos are playing, but the synth patches with built in > rythms are not... in my hardware world that suggests lack of clock... But > you gave me a clue.. maybe I need to get down on my knees and peek at the > setting in GR... I was assuming cos it worked with midi cable the settings > would be the same for USB.. maybe not? > > M > > > > > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:32 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:08 AM, mark francombe >> wrote: >> > On a related note. (IE: getting shit to work) Maybe directed to Per, >> how do >> > I get tempo information BACK INTO the GR55 (for slicer and delay sync) >> from >> > a software source (assuming I get all the above working...) >> >> MIDI Clock. >> >> I do like this: pop a USB cable into the laptop and the GR-55. In >> Mobius I set the looper to use that MIDI Port as the "Plugin Output >> Device" (together with the IAC Bus that slaving software on the laptop >> follows). I did not notice a setting in the GR-55 to switch it between >> master and slave sync mode so I guess it just fell in right by its own >> devices. >> >> The method above should work with a MIDI cable too, but I prefer USB >> cables because I can keep a bunch of them gaffer taped to a MIDI Hub >> that I plug into the lappy for fast setting up. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.perboysen.com >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >> >> > > > -- > *Mark Francombe* > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ > > -- http://toaster.bandcamp.com --047d7b62226e27445504cf82a6f2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This may seem a dippy question, but are you pressing 'play' in Audi= omulch?=A0

T

On Tue, N= ov 27, 2012 at 3:43 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>= ; wrote:
MIDI Clock.

Ha ha.. very funny.. I am= aware of the concept.. But maybe I should describe my current attempt.
USB cable from GR55=A0 to USBHub, to laptop. FCP1010 into midisport midi in= port A, USB from midisport into Midi Hub.

IN Mobius I DO set PlugIN OUT to IAC (re previous point that echoloop d= oesnt give IAC as an option) So.. Is that IT? How do I ensure that midi is = going back OUT to GR55? (Im used to cables and inand out sockets remember..= not magical busses.)

Cos none of the rythym based patches seem to be firing.. (the delays ar= e playing and the tremlos are playing, but the synth patches with built in = rythms are not... in my hardware world that suggests lack of clock... But y= ou gave me a clue.. maybe I need to get down on my knees and peek at the se= tting in GR... I was assuming cos it worked with midi cable the settings wo= uld be the same for USB.. maybe not?

M




On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:32 AM= , Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:08 AM, mark = francombe <m= ark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> On a related note. (IE: getting shit to work) Maybe directed to Per, h= ow do
> I get tempo information BACK INTO the GR55 (for slicer and delay sync)= from
> a software source (assuming I get all the above working...)

MIDI Clock.

I do like this: pop a USB cable into the laptop and the GR-55. In
Mobius I set the looper to use that MIDI Port as the "Plugin Output Device" (together with the IAC Bus that slaving software on the laptop=
follows). I did not notice a setting in the GR-55 to switch it between
master and slave sync mode so I guess it just fell in right by its own
devices.

The method above should work with a MIDI cable too, but I prefer USB
cables because I can keep a bunch of them gaffer taped to a MIDI Hub
that I plug into the lappy for fast setting up.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.y= outube.com/perboysen




--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
<= /font>



--
http://toaster.bandcamp.com
--047d7b62226e27445504cf82a6f2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 27 23:51:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C43E18345B; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 23:51:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=HMfavtp+tFtA62pzHIYP/+5bjmIL9y2qU2Bw9XN+Elg=; b=pOuPFLMROzvsBG77DHWYgIw0/ofTDa5PVhdnRKBF4XEJ3ouM6ON1YCAYGrnDyr96LD 7FqWI4R+AtVPFdHcrOBKCsxwKjogeR3EjWuAIjNvBbnUgd5/Z3UB6sh+0x8T4KZPxp6k CArtbuj/RnjArRwL8ho0+tILTNgszL3RaUK+3KZZ2revFsRbWKAwEkXNi05nrnXhIK9U XzzLsW9UE/L1ghQvBVe6oUvYOfmdUwRkC6rAMFmHsfhNIqpuY/WbyWiJltW89qOYz/pB FfzoGbkdaYBvuSq++clcszK89FzJiFh5l0pE24FJTl0Wj8Z7zdLnaM6nLecchuX8jrH2 ql5g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 00:51:28 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e5u6z4S_IK5w-lg36JiN4KxNxQ4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Echoloop in Mulch problems To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b34372cba301404cf82bb9c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119356 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 23:51:49 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b34372cba301404cf82bb9c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I shouldnt have to Todd.. when using Mobius I could start up Mulch just by the second click of record, that would send out a midi clock from Mobius and that would set the overall speed of Mulch... just cant get it to work with EL. But maybe I should start another way.. at least check that it can snc to the Host clock.. havent even tried that cos its not the way I am used to. On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:45 AM, Todd Elliott wrote: > This may seem a dippy question, but are you pressing 'play' in Audiomulch? > > T > > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 3:43 PM, mark francombe wrote: > >> MIDI Clock. >> >> Ha ha.. very funny.. I am aware of the concept.. But maybe I should >> describe my current attempt. >> USB cable from GR55 to USBHub, to laptop. FCP1010 into midisport midi in >> port A, USB from midisport into Midi Hub. >> >> IN Mobius I DO set PlugIN OUT to IAC (re previous point that echoloop >> doesnt give IAC as an option) So.. Is that IT? How do I ensure that midi is >> going back OUT to GR55? (Im used to cables and inand out sockets remember.. >> not magical busses.) >> >> Cos none of the rythym based patches seem to be firing.. (the delays are >> playing and the tremlos are playing, but the synth patches with built in >> rythms are not... in my hardware world that suggests lack of clock... But >> you gave me a clue.. maybe I need to get down on my knees and peek at the >> setting in GR... I was assuming cos it worked with midi cable the settings >> would be the same for USB.. maybe not? >> >> M >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:32 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:08 AM, mark francombe >>> wrote: >>> > On a related note. (IE: getting shit to work) Maybe directed to Per, >>> how do >>> > I get tempo information BACK INTO the GR55 (for slicer and delay sync) >>> from >>> > a software source (assuming I get all the above working...) >>> >>> MIDI Clock. >>> >>> I do like this: pop a USB cable into the laptop and the GR-55. In >>> Mobius I set the looper to use that MIDI Port as the "Plugin Output >>> Device" (together with the IAC Bus that slaving software on the laptop >>> follows). I did not notice a setting in the GR-55 to switch it between >>> master and slave sync mode so I guess it just fell in right by its own >>> devices. >>> >>> The method above should work with a MIDI cable too, but I prefer USB >>> cables because I can keep a bunch of them gaffer taped to a MIDI Hub >>> that I plug into the lappy for fast setting up. >>> >>> Greetings from Sweden >>> >>> Per Boysen >>> www.perboysen.com >>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> *Mark Francombe* >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.looop.no >> twitter @markfrancombe >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ >> >> > > > -- > http://toaster.bandcamp.com > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b34372cba301404cf82bb9c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I shouldnt have to Todd.. when using Mobius I could start up Mulch just by = the second click of record, that would send out a midi clock from Mobius an= d that would set the overall speed of Mulch... just cant get it to work wit= h EL. But maybe I should start another way.. at least check that it can snc= to the Host clock.. havent even tried that cos its not the way I am used t= o.


On Wed, Nov 2= 8, 2012 at 12:45 AM, Todd Elliott <toddbert@gmail.com> wrot= e:
This may seem a dippy question, but are you = pressing 'play' in Audiomulch?=A0

T


On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 3:43 PM, mark fr= ancombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
MIDI Clock.

Ha ha.. very funny.. I am= aware of the concept.. But maybe I should describe my current attempt.
USB cable from GR55=A0 to USBHub, to laptop. FCP1010 into midisport midi in= port A, USB from midisport into Midi Hub.

IN Mobius I DO set PlugIN OUT to IAC (re previous point that echoloop d= oesnt give IAC as an option) So.. Is that IT? How do I ensure that midi is = going back OUT to GR55? (Im used to cables and inand out sockets remember..= not magical busses.)

Cos none of the rythym based patches seem to be firing.. (the delays ar= e playing and the tremlos are playing, but the synth patches with built in = rythms are not... in my hardware world that suggests lack of clock... But y= ou gave me a clue.. maybe I need to get down on my knees and peek at the se= tting in GR... I was assuming cos it worked with midi cable the settings wo= uld be the same for USB.. maybe not?

M



On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:32 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:08 AM, mark = francombe <m= ark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> On a related note. (IE: getting shit to work) Maybe directed to Per, h= ow do
> I get tempo information BACK INTO the GR55 (for slicer and delay sync)= from
> a software source (assuming I get all the above working...)

MIDI Clock.

I do like this: pop a USB cable into the laptop and the GR-55. In
Mobius I set the looper to use that MIDI Port as the "Plugin Output Device" (together with the IAC Bus that slaving software on the laptop=
follows). I did not notice a setting in the GR-55 to switch it between
master and slave sync mode so I guess it just fell in right by its own
devices.

The method above should work with a MIDI cable too, but I prefer USB
cables because I can keep a bunch of them gaffer taped to a MIDI Hub
that I plug into the lappy for fast setting up.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.y= outube.com/perboysen




--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
<= /font>



--
http://toaster.bandcamp.com



--
Mark Francom= be
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
<= /font>
--047d7b34372cba301404cf82bb9c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 27 23:59:55 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D495183461; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 23:59:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=V2/PVbNlFqPkDxfB36AJuoysFTDTR1OFNGbESQ3whHc=; b=cyWFOxcPJo0DMGAiJu+tw2FdPpmpZsaNwkSvCvPH91ln2Crcok5476VBLSQbsNSrux kvWRm6sqj6hlKc6nJ14Cg7vidtuFoT3PVUPteNzrbeJ/kBtNh6rEdYE3ciB7ACJoTF16 gyliFIYHMU0Gn48ePcyQqj8EUNXyHH/bcy+EcLcmS7HnWPShjPwwIprqBK+E2sjXR/61 94nSFFRIT7uO1nDol7n46LubgdzuZ+IfESQqXUMpDIaRfJPmfm0XfrwgSukjk4UPGPOA Q8KBHrT6Vhyn9QZBuNRGZH6pJM10wzgFsxZBzrwdtq2TU80JcTv4SNUqm6XMi1YrVHu/ AT+g== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 00:59:53 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Echoloop in Mulch problems From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119357 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 23:59:54 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:43 AM, mark francombe wrote: > maybe not? Agree. Here's a walk-through: 1. Get down on knees. 2. Dial in the GR's preferences. 3. Find out if there is a Yes button for "USB MIDI IN". 4. Push That Button! Oh, and tell your lappy to send out some MIDI Clock. That should be the very first step. P :-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 28 02:54:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4B4418345B; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 02:54:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=eKH8NQt9hxBT7Vckd5ql+7xKxxvlaWCiUXNK76nNys4=; b=KevegdHzLY2N0B0mP0QEVtIxhzjWmdi4qy3OMxHUwSt0d9/sVhXTBQRnVFesWXvDXu YTEeqo1Op9KFQaIlTMr9XOrVItZlpJ+Pef8m2n0Bmc42Qv/erFXrngHsR5GkYHqosITy 6b+Taxv/w1irEhsC6icWdzIfCy3AxmCOEGIrKYAM7bTJelNmeCzrSkDHK3LuRl6HUmhI MNgFI7Jlupfoaa4ZdJwxeP/UcSbvMjiRwJT+tXJQT9Lz1A7uTueVW6i1Y0Blgn+vGwpJ L4jwfjScPODZ1gksMZlJyLRCv+k6Y9OvdmPak3Et8EZ7LwoOckV/jaXGOa0lqfHR7iZi 8tIQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <50B3CD61.1070300@earthwormandfire.com> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 18:54:55 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Grrrrrrrrg I completely forgot to type my artist bio in 3rd person for y2k =[] From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb1f84a94a0c504cf854a73 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119358 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 02:54:56 +0000 (UTC) --e89a8fb1f84a94a0c504cf854a73 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I had a recording project called "The Electric Friends" a long time ago. Then I found out about the famous Gary Numan song "Are Friends Electric"? Hmmm, oh well. It wasn't a terribly good recording project anyway. -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Todd Elliott wrote: > There are (at last count) four artists using the name "Toaster", one of > which is no longer a going concern. When I initially picked the name, I was > sort of surprised that there were so few. > > T > > > On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Chaz Worm wrote: > >> Thats a good one. Me and my estranged guitar god brother was joking >> about that the other day. All sites are put up that way to make it look >> like the band may have one impartial fan... >> We do our website as a character we invented, Clifford Ratliff. >> We really should have done a microcosm of research. After we had already >> written 2 songs about him we found out (through google) that there was a >> jazz musician with that same name. >> Who would have thunk? We thought it sounded very eastern KY. >> >> chaz >> >> On 10/19/2012 11:54 AM, Todd Elliott wrote: >> >> Well, that's ok. I forgot to not make mine a two line joke. >> >> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:23 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: >> >>> >> >> >> -- >> http://toaster.bandcamp.com >> >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5341 - Release Date: 10/19/12 >> >> >> > > > -- > http://toaster.bandcamp.com > --e89a8fb1f84a94a0c504cf854a73 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had a recording project called "The Electric Friends" a long ti= me ago. Then I found out about the famous Gary Numan song "Are Friends= Electric"? Hmmm, oh well. It wasn't a terribly good recording pro= ject anyway.


--
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
<= a href=3D"http://www.ribosomemusic.com" target=3D"_blank">www.ribosomemusic= .com
Podcast! ht= tp://ribosomematt.podomatic.com

On Mo= n, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Todd Elliott <toddbert@gmail.com> wrote:
There are (at last count)= four artists using the name "Toaster", one of which is no longer= a going concern. When I initially picked the name, I was sort of surprised= that there were so few.=A0

T


On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Chaz Worm = <chaz@earthwormandfire.com> wrote:
=20 =20 =20
Thats a good one. Me and my estranged guitar god brother was joking about that the other day.=A0 All sites are put up that way to make it look like the band may have one impartial fan...
We do our website as a character we invented, Clifford Ratliff.
We really should have done a microcosm of research.=A0 After we had already written 2 songs about him we found out (through google) that there was a jazz musician with that same name.=A0
Who would have thunk?=A0 We thought it sounded very eastern KY.

chaz
=A0
On 10/19/2012 11:54 AM, Todd Elliott wrote:
Well, that's ok. I = forgot to not make mine a two line joke.=A0

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:23 PM, kay'= lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrote:



--
http://toas= ter.bandcamp.com

No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - w= ww.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5341 - Release Date: 10/19/12





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--e89a8fb1f84a94a0c504cf854a73-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 28 03:24:18 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D601218345E; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 03:24:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=GGfn08nzZlGE53v3ka/XKFl5ZDfA5Vhg+0QR9mngOxs=; b=XwQ9f8D9XwOKuNJ/SWIPJyHX2JfKvDHS0+6AM79eblvKbjr5JxK+10oVZRKFa8M3n+ Y9F8twzoLmCg6XShcX8nwfrMPND9d0CBFpRJ3cf+a57DmfqLkw8neFmx7bDQJUup84yD +HrMDU0vefPmyRZZOTR5dgUmBDhH5gaV4AfrzqboLq0O0HzerdfadptH5YN8Lz9WFhfJ jpTuBv4sZz2oyi4YB5LK5vwCES0E0Stydb2pAk/vAMYlzpJoyKk8ETr5wiVWmAff3C1N df0JGvZ4oXIBEKEe1AwlF4UyDjzepQv/mvzv59uK4jsv52Nas/Ylhlqj0bgOqnUZZYXk Oqcw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <50B3CD61.1070300@earthwormandfire.com> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 19:24:17 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Grrrrrrrrg I completely forgot to type my artist bio in 3rd person for y2k =[] From: Todd Elliott To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3438ea9647b404cf85b328 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119359 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 03:24:18 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b3438ea9647b404cf85b328 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I always figure if someone tries to call me on my chosen name, I can point out that I have a Toaster tattooed on my forearm. T On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > I had a recording project called "The Electric Friends" a long time ago. > Then I found out about the famous Gary Numan song "Are Friends Electric"? > Hmmm, oh well. It wasn't a terribly good recording project anyway. > > > -- > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com > > > On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Todd Elliott wrote: > >> There are (at last count) four artists using the name "Toaster", one of >> which is no longer a going concern. When I initially picked the name, I was >> sort of surprised that there were so few. >> >> T >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Chaz Worm wrote: >> >>> Thats a good one. Me and my estranged guitar god brother was joking >>> about that the other day. All sites are put up that way to make it look >>> like the band may have one impartial fan... >>> We do our website as a character we invented, Clifford Ratliff. >>> We really should have done a microcosm of research. After we had >>> already written 2 songs about him we found out (through google) that there >>> was a jazz musician with that same name. >>> Who would have thunk? We thought it sounded very eastern KY. >>> >>> chaz >>> >>> On 10/19/2012 11:54 AM, Todd Elliott wrote: >>> >>> Well, that's ok. I forgot to not make mine a two line joke. >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:23 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> http://toaster.bandcamp.com >>> >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5341 - Release Date: 10/19/12 >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> http://toaster.bandcamp.com >> > > > > -- http://toaster.bandcamp.com --047d7b3438ea9647b404cf85b328 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I always figure if someone tries to call me on my chosen name, I can point = out that I have a Toaster tattooed on my forearm.

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On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Matt Davigno= n <mattdavignon@gmail.com> wrote:
I had a recording project called "The E= lectric Friends" a long time ago. Then I found out about the famous Ga= ry Numan song "Are Friends Electric"? Hmmm, oh well. It wasn'= t a terribly good recording project anyway.


--
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusic.com
Podcast! ht= tp://ribosomematt.podomatic.com

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Todd Elli= ott <toddbert@gmail.com> wrote:
There are (at last count)= four artists using the name "Toaster", one of which is no longer= a going concern. When I initially picked the name, I was sort of surprised= that there were so few.=A0

T


On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Chaz Worm = <chaz@earthwormandfire.com> wrote:
=20 =20 =20
Thats a good one. Me and my estranged guitar god brother was joking about that the other day.=A0 All sites are put up that way to make it look like the band may have one impartial fan...
We do our website as a character we invented, Clifford Ratliff.
We really should have done a microcosm of research.=A0 After we had already written 2 songs about him we found out (through google) that there was a jazz musician with that same name.=A0
Who would have thunk?=A0 We thought it sounded very eastern KY.

chaz
=A0
On 10/19/2012 11:54 AM, Todd Elliott wrote:
Well, that's ok. I = forgot to not make mine a two line joke.=A0

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:23 PM, kay'= lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrote:



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--047d7b3438ea9647b404cf85b328-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 28 15:55:02 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0D2618345D; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 15:55:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <50B3CD61.1070300@earthwormandfire.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Grrrrrrrrg I completely forgot to type my artist bio in 3rd person for y2k =[] In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: michael klobuchar X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CF9B97DA5B0148_1920_5A2B_webmailstg-d03.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37225-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CF9B97DA2DC702-1920-1A03@webmailstg-d03.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [151.201.26.206] Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 10:54:58 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1354118099; bh=ZsFelLwv7TCmJ8kefGiCtpY9FzdDyMV0/X9kWbxi5SY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TWt24ewf+auaiN+tsX9tGV+bJcuTDdIe8k7oRzXpDlf+VztMUdU+LgTlasG23IZZ7 7ZBuriANDuy4pkvoIk+J+oiausDGu9d3FL97x9hvGjLjyQ38a25aokgUGTm/Uv6CuN RROrkt+83F+85kkohFuV30YuxCXYxuTDcIgxmFkM= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:391298208:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c750b633d36d22 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119360 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 15:55:01 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CF9B97DA5B0148_1920_5A2B_webmailstg-d03.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" matt sez: "The Electric Friends"=20 some of your best stuff imho =20 ----------MB_8CF9B97DA5B0148_1920_5A2B_webmailstg-d03.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"

matt sez:

"The Electric Friends" 


some of your best stuff imho
----------MB_8CF9B97DA5B0148_1920_5A2B_webmailstg-d03.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 28 21:25:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A71E718345D; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 21:25:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 21:25:22 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 15:20:19 -0500 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Saturday -- Moving with the Light -- A Concert and Movement Jam Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Experimental Film Discussion List Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119361 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 21:25:23 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, Moving with the Light is an event at which contact improvisation and other improvised movement, music, and video interact as equals -- each responding to and respectful of the others. The event will happen on Saturday, December 1, at 119 Gallery in Lowell. 119 Gallery is the nicest space I've ever performed at and has a movement--friendly hardwood floor. with Doctor T. - Video (See samples at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld) Eric Crawley-- Harpejji (Sounds as beautiful as it looks at http://www.marcodi.com/sights-sounds/pictures/) Kit Demos -- Bass and Electronics. YOU -- movement. Eric and Kit will play music suitable for contact improvisation and other forms of gentle movement, while I improvise imagery and all three of us react to the dancers as well as to each other. Saturday Dec 1 at 8:00 PM 119 Gallery 119 Chelmsford St Lowell, MA 01851 Five minutes from the Lowell Connector, with ample on-street parking and an amazing Cambodian restaurant next door. http://www.119gallery.org/ Sliding scale -- suggested donation $10.00 -- "I rang a silent bell ..." -- Robert Hunter "... cast your dancing spell my way, I promise to go under it" -- Bob Dylan My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 28 21:30:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7771B183462; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 21:30:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 832063262/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-PIPEX-CUSTOMERS/85.210.188.44/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.188.44 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMBAH2BtlBV0rws/2dsb2JhbAANOMA4gxEBAQEEMgEFES8RCwcGCwkWDwkDAgECAUUZAwGIGKsgk3ONWYMnA5cdhDw1hSqHfw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.83,336,1352073600"; d="scan'208";a="832063262" Message-ID: <50B68291.1080800@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 21:30:57 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoloop in Mulch problems References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <3W8enB.A.mb.HKotQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119362 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 21:30:47 +0000 (UTC) A) don't know what IAC driver is ..but if there's some way you can direct the midi output of EL to where it is needed sync=Out B) 2 ways to sync 2x EL 1 by an old VST protocol no longer supported by Steinberg any plugin can sync to any other in multiple configurations. If Mulch supports that...I've no idea if it does. (Bidule is the only known host that does) 2 Virtual Midi cable from Master EL Out to slave In. Master: Sync = Out Slave: Sync = Midi In I assume AudioMulch *does* let you hook up midi anyway you like. andy mark francombe wrote: > Hi, > > Im back in nasty software land for a bit (due to an impending gig in > Italy, where I cant possibly afford to take the Big Fat Mamma - (my > affectionate name for my rack) and of course am bogged down in my usual > settings troubles... > > Im trying to set up Echoloop in AudioMulch. Ive got it working and > looping and reacting to my pedalboard ok, but can´t.... > > A) > > Synch it to Mulch. When I use Möbius I just set the plugin out to the > IAC Driver and then Mulch pick that up and plays at that speed.. cant > get that to work with Echoloop as the Master. It s options are: > OFF > IN HOST > IN MIDI > OUT > OUT START SONG > > & > > B) > > Synch it to another instance of Echoloop.. Again, working perfectly from > the same footpedal, but not syncronised together... > > On a related note. (IE: getting shit to work) Maybe directed to Per, how > do I get tempo information BACK INTO the GR55 (for slicer and delay > sync) from a software source (assuming I get all the above working...) > > Thank you > > Over and out.. > > M > > -- > /_Mark Francombe_/ > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 28 21:49:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 410F2183460; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 21:49:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=TqpWQ9nbPLQKlEkf4fFVL5R4bJuM0R6TaFklY8TB2vg=; b=w5UVO6yPRvK9zDsoTTWb6xQXglALtS4Z0nw0pigmVT7NGNaCITIuRV4JulSeF8tIDB AdbGAZ52HNPBGjCGk/UYOocudu7t9Rb+0wgZNICpO2OsAPhn/oV1VpiEH9qqtalR6bkz wqFD8ptuDITaSrB2rRzo78rW/SgSNRT7hJKuD2sC2vRgKxn8Zjkykpoy2YGQRVYo98o9 1bhz+UGtHPnaeqeSLzYfokTQbE6I05ncevO88oRJDq/4ofXxw7luUnLdLRYDSV6RAd6c zOKYDaVxa7jnxNjUAdcT8hqSNaNVuAqxDTnzG7F7n6gCmzAphC7Ldnls7ZcV/tv6Xa1Q E8VA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <50B68291.1080800@tiscali.co.uk> References: <50B68291.1080800@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 22:49:15 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ygCzAxC6J2fGA9Bu-5HSDxc3jOs Message-ID: Subject: Re: Echoloop in Mulch problems To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6225208af02904cf95240e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119363 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 21:49:38 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b6225208af02904cf95240e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:30 PM, andy butler wrote: > don't know what IAC driver is Good for you Chap! Keep it that way... I rue the day I found out about them! -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b6225208af02904cf95240e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Wed, Nov 2= 8, 2012 at 10:30 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
don't know what IAC driver is

Good for you Chap! Keep it that way... I rue the day I found ou= t about them!


--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.c= om/photos/24478662@N00/

--047d7b6225208af02904cf95240e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 29 12:08:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B919183462; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 12:08:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1354190883; bh=2yONQ3De+J9bzNo7odi4A9SQLXu6hE0JRydwY65ZRNk=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-Id:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer; b=NVxB4Cm5S6xVRjq8lhUAC80KQCi8VhR35rt8IcIVAVLpzZeXm8OTe07BT+gCfwkCIIhqfPV864NSa5YUFu/i+i4f5fx2x+JuxJ214o8+BkXt0Uubbi7/3bvJoAwQRl+EQR56mn+yNGu0EqAIRe9pVkUsFRESDY9Hg+QywukMJs0= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 511081.61940.bm@smtp121.mail.ukl.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: GD3LznMVM1lVsBbr6PgQJAzxInw05yXJDgDUxkLqimoCSr3 lXanDwWJSxkmTQq9QyBW2CH6aEHqbUx_rFTggD.yyYvLVeRP45zMbdFkq_pU QXTEqOWH3k_kUa4eY9CN92Ih2qKCwFtymHg19SpGdyEsZ8ukUM2Kkrhx.2wR gsQXr6Rlb1OgJgvagTTxj_1UiclOJHhwXRIqeL1oIjnxTYQpATeHinatB6Kc RXSzaqZreqroSILPzuTZoxx00LEw3txbJSVzEF7YQ92vjzsrm0XQX0WMXz9b fGmszcnzhtg0qRqhUlkqhdjJTXWj5LTIWpguVeotKkCUUIBNY5tS.SiHwAti vEQWHm8UBDOnrMHc7ajOQZIeMwmWaAIaQ8qyOhz0SpzBoWQTo7ZfMan_Qxza k2jPZHHtPm_VrMWFk.a.1uYN2ORYwTEQk5DMJiF8MOVMQYZK7fSO4yamum2h TxCd_1e04EcL3G7gOPnypdv8jMZ14xaiPFdP2UewuP9WXrIMUnWZSipfIH4Q Q9jutY1JsV.aZmBlEHA-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: 75CdczOswBChen.W3AbLhaW8TlC96TVo5w-- From: Ben To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 13:08:03 +0100 Subject: Korg Microsampler as a looping tool Message-Id: <20121129130803.52B12E48.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: nPOPuk Ver 2.16 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119364 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 12:08:05 +0000 (UTC) Hello, I think this has been discussed in the path but I don't think a tecfhnical solution has been posted. Here's a video I just saw. This need a bit of soldering so that a sustain pedal can be used to trigger the sampling start: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guJR-WxaTSY There are some limitations but it's a nice tip I thinks and this gives a 36 tracks looper or a looper on which you can pitchshift the tracks (repeater), resample with effects, ... Where did I put my soldering iron? Ben. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 29 14:59:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57529183463; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 14:59:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [217.92.117.212] X-EIP: [/K1vNQLq4Zmtfyvcz+5kgrSltN3PnhI/] X-Originating-Email: [satyam.shivam.sundaram@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_cfc54b11-b314-4736-94aa-53772ae3b79f_" From: Sergio Girardi Sender: To: Subject: RE: Korg Microsampler as a looping tool Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 15:59:39 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20121129130803.52B12E48.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> References: <20121129130803.52B12E48.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Nov 2012 14:59:40.0291 (UTC) FILETIME=[284CFD30:01CDCE42] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119365 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 14:59:41 +0000 (UTC) --_cfc54b11-b314-4736-94aa-53772ae3b79f_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mmm=2C a bit complicated. The loops must have all the same length=2C right?= THe same of the first one.Or well=2C surely not more=2C or it happens what= happened with the last loop to him.WHat if while preparing the slots you p= ress the key less time than the first loop's length?So=2C there is no way t= o just press play and start recording and press again to stop recording and= start playing=2C deciding on your own the length of each loop? > From: benoitruelle@yahoo.fr > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Thu=2C 29 Nov 2012 13:08:03 +0100 > Subject: Korg Microsampler as a looping tool >=20 > Hello=2C >=20 > I think this has been discussed in the path but I don't think a=20 > tecfhnical solution has been posted. > Here's a video I just saw. This need a bit of soldering so that a=20 > sustain pedal can be used to trigger the sampling start: >=20 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DguJR-WxaTSY >=20 > There are some limitations but it's a nice tip I thinks and this gives > a 36 tracks looper or a looper on which you can pitchshift the tracks=20 > (repeater)=2C resample with effects=2C ... >=20 > Where did I put my soldering iron? >=20 > Ben. >=20 = --_cfc54b11-b314-4736-94aa-53772ae3b79f_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mmm=2C a bit complicated. The loops must have all the same =3Blength=2C= right? THe same of the first one.
Or well=2C surely not more=2C or it = happens what happened with the last loop to him.
WHat if while pr= eparing the slots you press the key less time than the first loop's length?=
So=2C there is no way to just press play and start recording and= press again to stop recording and start playing=2C deciding on your own th= e length of each loop?

&g= t=3B From: benoitruelle@yahoo.fr
>=3B To: loopers-delight@loopers-deli= ght.com
>=3B Date: Thu=2C 29 Nov 2012 13:08:03 +0100
>=3B Subject= : Korg Microsampler as a looping tool
>=3B
>=3B Hello=2C
>= =3B
>=3B I think this has been discussed in the path but I don't thin= k a
>=3B tecfhnical solution has been posted.
>=3B Here's a vide= o I just saw. This need a bit of soldering so that a
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>=3B There are some li= mitations but it's a nice tip I thinks and this gives
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>=3B
>=3B Where did I put = my soldering iron?
>=3B
>=3B Ben.
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= --_cfc54b11-b314-4736-94aa-53772ae3b79f_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 29 15:14:03 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DED1D183462; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 15:14:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=zbPEId0G//vAZyPhYobjYrkLfCJoUIP4lC4c0v0aJWA=; b=E3Qk8LPh1elFDMrwBhhchqbVBSmupJAPCY69Rt8u6g8Wi6L5pWEbzrYDzGxFOrg7ZI 0N9+ylGbaZ0NaGzvAUkY7NDyDvsF0P/LfF47RrTY377LxzK34Vh+IBDegYc/mw4IK5SI KVTCf+w75T+I2zttmrj8Ydw2uc1dLka8FJ7pdMdkymzYeFH969jvWvqJatzPGS/IXcyJ KGijRzPjRWoCfmtVakdO8nvgVBq4mxl1BU6t3EJ6+r8qcJ6R7yBDTS1JkTfL8/1ZIGE5 myaFyyxswLi2e7ySEw24Vl0celQ8w/WTG8Mp94CcD2l8/Dpa3+Xd2QLKARAZdSL/N2Mo 38cQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <20121129130803.52B12E48.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:13:41 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: kYBhgZvWhvNtJYKeuPy5gBoUCMg Message-ID: Subject: Re: Korg Microsampler as a looping tool To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b622570a0d36b04cfa3bb11 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119366 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 15:14:02 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b622570a0d36b04cfa3bb11 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 yeah... I heard this keyboard has some nice features, but this seems a little er... lumbersome... lumbersome? Is that a word..? Its is now... Lumbersome looping... a new genre perhaps? Off to make the Facebook page. M On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Sergio Girardi wrote: > Mmm, a bit complicated. The loops must have all the same length, right? > THe same of the first one. > Or well, surely not more, or it happens what happened with the last loop > to him. > WHat if while preparing the slots you press the key less time than the > first loop's length? > So, there is no way to just press play and start recording and press again > to stop recording and start playing, deciding on your own the length of > each loop? > > > From: benoitruelle@yahoo.fr > > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > > Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 13:08:03 +0100 > > Subject: Korg Microsampler as a looping tool > > > > Hello, > > > > I think this has been discussed in the path but I don't think a > > tecfhnical solution has been posted. > > Here's a video I just saw. This need a bit of soldering so that a > > sustain pedal can be used to trigger the sampling start: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guJR-WxaTSY > > > > There are some limitations but it's a nice tip I thinks and this gives > > a 36 tracks looper or a looper on which you can pitchshift the tracks > > (repeater), resample with effects, ... > > > > Where did I put my soldering iron? > > > > Ben. > > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b622570a0d36b04cfa3bb11 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yeah... I heard this keyboard has some nice features, but this seems a litt= le er... lumbersome...

lumbersome? Is that a word..?

Its is = now...

Lumbersome looping... a new genre perhaps? Off to make the Fa= cebook page.

M


On T= hu, Nov 29, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Sergio Girardi <simpliflying@gmail.com= > wrote:
Mmm, a bit complicated. The loops must have all the same=A0length, right? T= He same of the first one.
Or well, surely not more, or it happens what = happened with the last loop to him.
WHat if while preparing the s= lots you press the key less time than the first loop's length?
So, there is no way to just press play and start recording and press a= gain to stop recording and start playing, deciding on your own the length o= f each loop?

> From: benoitruelle@yahoo.fr
> To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 20= 12 13:08:03 +0100
> Subject: Korg Microsampler as a looping tool
>
> Hello,
>
> I think this has been discussed in the path bu= t I don't think a
> tecfhnical solution has been posted.
>= Here's a video I just saw. This need a bit of soldering so that a
> sustain pedal can be used to trigger the sampling start:
>
&= gt; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DguJR-WxaTSY
>
> There= are some limitations but it's a nice tip I thinks and this gives
> a 36 tracks looper or a looper on which you can pitchshift the tracks =
> (repeater), resample with effects, ...
>
> Where did = I put my soldering iron?
>
> Ben.
>



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www.markfrancombe.com
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http://www.looop.no
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<= /font>
--047d7b622570a0d36b04cfa3bb11-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 29 15:25:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B404C183463; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 15:25:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=WjrLOLDp4mFCMIPbqcfRRV8B+2RPD4QrwYX5kYhONos=; b=ETacmU2KPLtgmQYbygVpMwPj0HhdYzTcltc7dg5r4XfGNYfO1i3iwY3+hLb7GWsY3l MnkfCAoIca7bMx2Y+/HI3B/r0IaA3imJl9bit7fN332vpV0fn3Vx/AthBwyezJJg+pd/ +nj1+SZmwflrlAqAQpm1wyrtO8lDllCiLQ6+AoTqKEoErWxP3pb24OUtYMSaW7SVP/ZV +HGirRXmR21UeRClDQcm4jXuRq2FpJwYacH3O52FOY5FqCMxX6AWmqr9saOGg9hFLNCN qG8JN5uNfdxu3u6PAObyCdf99vFqqmEE2k73cYQnONEGcKDc0t/VrZzZHD81vLM1BCTu f2Hw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20121129130803.52B12E48.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:25:52 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Korg Microsampler as a looping tool From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119367 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 15:25:53 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 4:13 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Lumbersome looping... a new genre perhaps? Fit for lumbersome cumberjacks... ...loopy enough. Oh, are we OT now? P :-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 29 18:25:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8ADB8183461; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:25:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 706932.58758.bm@omp1033.mail.bf1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1354213522; bh=l4n8wzCnf7ELY454E9ac9v7vGwftl6B250Wo+EDO7NE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tnl6H4CsJD7U/O0hDRKBJ6DwlNekvi+rqiGP6tN5gmhxbaDJMpLZXClp0w0OhMjUgpsgjhSsHfR+B9z3riMxcZBWPGMKMAJP3eThPOFCyhCsht4PWAqsEAe6XIv92Ww/iVsXRImY5mnpGIjZOiMUITdMtH6Jp/FcOatoDq/+eX4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JHA1Bdhzh2b5OCVHuYJopUhUr1y78aiw6sFX9zmpjMo5bBI0YEyzySoqcf8ZJ0XD5ZaImdfYApo+KKT3q6iHN1np2PGGK26lNYxqaCcGlFoYTvlr9ARjs0vdR78v5zIartHHMVH8vRrjnftMixk9PtAGuavWAkR3MIMCfZMfjHI=; X-YMail-OSG: aT4z2b8VM1nKGEMHTPDNG8Qbn9bEn9LoC.4PQPZhkZPUlg8 _KUr7yBXZ_VjRe6Cm4YEn9ZJwXS13bvNKm.LLXv8Z8Q.KPG15MEp6Ibn7FX7 _PwSxBn3Kx0ZGJERW.2FEgYgt68B4_fzxfkUm_P5T3uB2XDxmZ346gf8ClD0 QSCL8eVtHzEdXqcb19nhyxlAw.DZ404hoSzITgjnqNDfF8iS8sh7FimgunU8 LUmVjOr0fS0R9MztvIYpoBUTrURksQ9aSBaTWu1UIBguguy0Mk422l65DTWo oPtFUaF5r3Yt6Toeyz252U9FP.cIHp27xFfeUe7jQeQUOXU7YQQe9XC.lJ02 NetLKg266lGQ7HRUDLfl6va_jaxp7UMxZSir2g5EEcZ7wF9uK9jh_cZf90m6 076vF46Zv1JEvl5MM3.ubDSt6B0eqqOvYvBc2XSiEpynpwHJcIZHXhXsGR8t _vdhizApNn1mi7NKnQGiv8Yvz3tTaQbgog1F7nvtJ9T0C1lH4UUg9ErDUQgZ OyNBeEoLs1HxvZcCzewWNwon6b2o- X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,SXQgd29uJ3Qgd29yayB1cCBoZXJlIGluIHRoZSBQYWNpZmljIE5vcnRod2VzdCwgV2V5ZXJoYXVzZXIgcmFuIG9mZiB3aXRoIGl0IGFsbCBieSB0aGUgZWFybHkgOTBzLiBXZSdsbCBoYWUgdG8gc2V0dGxlIGZvciBzZWNvbmQgZ3Jvd3RoLCAicGVja2VyIHBvbGVzIiB0byB0aG9zZSBvZiB1cyB0aGF0IHVzZWQgdG8gZHJpdmUgdGhlIHRyZWVzIHRvIHRoZSBtaWxsIGFmdGVyIHRoZSBmYWxsZXJzIGtpbGxlZCB0aGVtLg0KUmlnCgoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KRnJvbTogUGVyIEIBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.127.475 References: <20121129130803.52B12E48.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> Message-ID: <1354213522.17160.YahooMailNeo@web32507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:25:22 -0800 (PST) From: bill bigrig Reply-To: bill bigrig Subject: Re: Korg Microsampler as a looping tool To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-3126525-921469468-1354213522=:17160" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119368 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:25:23 +0000 (UTC) ---3126525-921469468-1354213522=:17160 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii It won't work up here in the Pacific Northwest, Weyerhauser ran off with it all by the early 90s. We'll hae to settle for second growth, "pecker poles" to those of us that used to drive the trees to the mill after the fallers killed them. Rig ________________________________ From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 7:25 AM Subject: Re: Korg Microsampler as a looping tool On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 4:13 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Lumbersome looping... a new genre perhaps? Fit for lumbersome cumberjacks... ...loopy enough. Oh, are we OT now? P :-) ---3126525-921469468-1354213522=:17160 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii It won't work up here in the Pacific Northwest, Weyerhauser ran off with it all by the early 90s. We'll hae to settle for second growth, "pecker poles" to those of us that used to drive the trees to the mill after the fallers killed them.
Rig
From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 7:25 AM
Subject: Re: Korg Microsampler as a looping tool

On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 4:13 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> Lumbersome looping... a new genre perhaps?


Fit for lumbersome cumberjacks...
...loopy enough.

Oh, are we OT now?

P :-)



---3126525-921469468-1354213522=:17160-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 29 20:49:04 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E4B618347A; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 20:49:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <50B7CA37.4040406@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 12:48:55 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Per Boysen CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Korg Microsampler as a looping tool References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050606090406020204070505" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119369 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 20:49:03 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050606090406020204070505 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 11/29/12 7:25 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 4:13 PM, mark francombe wrote: >> Lumbersome looping... a new genre perhaps? > > Fit for lumbersome cumberjacks... > ...loopy enough. > > Oh, are we OT now? > > P :-) I always admire a person who can pun in a second language, Per. You were the one who cracked Chris and I up by talking about 'manufacturing' a sandwich, one day! I miss your humor! "lumbersome cumberjacks" Wasn't this a Monty Python sketch at one point or another? --------------050606090406020204070505 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 11/29/12 7:25 AM, Per Boysen wrote:
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 4:13 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:

Lumbersome looping... a new genre perhaps?


Fit for lumbersome cumberjacks...
...loopy enough.

Oh, are we OT now?

P :-)
I always admire a person who can pun in a second language,  Per.

You were the one who cracked Chris and I up by talking about
'manufacturing' a sandwich, one day!     I miss your humor!

"lumbersome cumberjacks"          Wasn't this a Monty Python sketch at one
point or another?
 --------------050606090406020204070505-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 29 21:42:09 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5486F183479; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 21:42:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 220684.67953.bm@omp1015.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1354225326; bh=8xy/6Hho8B5LazYezEf315ojNWBGqgD5kCsXfjKe3OU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TwtizG1TzArp+qVBBxE4CqoVNs6s7fGEjxAQ0b/zULgmivmdzZlm/TBeFICWxw3/q5oYfpdAw0+tza+LxOwonh8UZ5xYmUz8l6xtTIWAaD+obFEpn4vfjGUDHz8FemkIYK5GGaFcJfULgoV4TWDF7zmRcJa8GMN3WtaWSf7FjUA= X-YMail-OSG: i6WR9UkVM1mTFk0Dmj2mTUl71l7EXnv5gMmGTfKbfeI23JI ZlGw.71aMg0al17NMyCFMvF_h7Zy4LQXZjGpHLgJfl5LID3x4C0RtZJBJIeg wrFtKmKf2S_c_M62eRpmP3xOjcsxaqbNszUgkkUdNZupr77Bprvie8vnHaWJ 1NH5XWsEZhcJj0m8eGnut24LjjKtFpWPiA9NcTCcYj6op8UjoCK1SHYfF0fd 2LYmFdS2lStdk.Z773LzA9PAQ3Ik0nmNYSByUX59jf6hyOxbdxYMT1eosX5I XwKzdOW9RkzfSfkHMSX7MKxdWOuXCnszRGWZazgUdcbKJRVsC1f489vdZpNA 0HGzuY76WPlHhw.nBlZ24gGm_yfsj17fJHr2kxN6.m1L69cVG8F3F6AOm14F gjPnWzwJVLd52Ic7FR4cfooaEHnzBvDm2eUB8TnUYXM2Tzkv3JIQSdZCXtSs Ywm_XgBvOSc91tDktwFmrz7gAQ0QMslv_ZLsgtFcn0orajl1ZId9sUG1Q42G nJbz5IkJA1abz_CxIROCTAkpcxOUuqF3poJ6ikLjgTFJLLX80p8gKKKdKHb5 JbBDBWmNNHpAqd64uo2LYCGpmPDvZmr3PULkLHz1e7huO5Ab3wPC7jBzulBQ ZMo0qr5Xm603kfKNdkXrXfRrYPgwGppk.qJPhnczl1Rbs_Up3XPyzIBC24uA o_5ymcmcEyojVOEt3wwjj X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,DQpXRSBBUkUgQUxMIExVTUJFUkpBQ0tTISANCldFIEFSRSBBTEwgT0shDQoNClRpbSBNdW5nZW5hc3QNCkVkaXRvci9Xcml0ZXIvUHJvb2ZyZWFkZXI6IHd3dy5saW5rZWRpbi5jb20vaW4vdGltbXVuZ2VuYXN0DQpHdWl0YXJpc3QvQ29tcG9zZXIvVm9jYWxpc3Q6IHd3dy5yZXZlcmJuYXRpb24uY29tL3RpbW11bmdlbmFzdA0KDQotLS0gT24gVGh1LCAxMS8yOS8xMiwgUmljayBXYWxrZXIgPGxvb3Bwb29sQGNydXppby5jb20.IHdyb3RlOg0KDQpGcm9tOiBSaWNrIFdhbGtlciA8bG9vcHBvb2xAY3J1emlvLmMBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.127.475 Message-ID: <1354225326.60345.YahooMailClassic@web84515.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 13:42:06 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Mungenast Subject: Re: Re: Korg Microsampler as a looping tool To: Per Boysen , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <50B7CA37.4040406@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="1693806986-392831009-1354225326=:60345" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119370 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 21:42:08 +0000 (UTC) --1693806986-392831009-1354225326=:60345 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable WE ARE ALL LUMBERJACKS!=20 WE ARE ALL OK! Tim Mungenast Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast --- On Thu, 11/29/12, Rick Walker wrote: From: Rick Walker Subject: Re: Re: Korg Microsampler as a looping tool To: "Per Boysen" Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thursday, November 29, 2012, 3:48 PM =0A =0A=0A =0A =0A On 11/29/12 7:25 AM, Per Boysen wrote: =0A =0A =0A On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 4:13 PM, mark francombe wrote: =0A =0A Lumbersome looping... a new genre perhaps? =0A =0A =20 Fit for lumbersome cumberjacks... ...loopy enough. Oh, are we OT now? P :-) =0A =0A I always admire a person who can=0A pun in a second la= nguage,=A0 Per. =0A =20 =0A You were the one who cracked Chris and I up by talking about= =20 =0A 'manufacturing'=0A a sandwich, one day!=A0=A0= =A0=A0 I miss your=0A humor! =0A =20 =0A "lumbersome cumberjacks"=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Wasn't this = a Monty Python=0A sketch at one=20 =0A point or another? =0A =0A =0A --1693806986-392831009-1354225326=:60345 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

WE ARE ALL LUMBERJACKS!
WE ARE ALL OK= !

Tim Mungenast
Editor/Writer= /Proofreader: www.lin= kedin.com/in/timmungenast
Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist:= www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast

--- On Thu, 11/29/1= 2, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

From: Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>
Subject:= Re: Re: Korg Microsampler as a looping tool
To: "Per Boysen" <perboy= sen@gmail.com>
Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Thurs= day, November 29, 2012, 3:48 PM

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--1693806986-392831009-1354225326=:60345-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 29 22:14:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E671E18347A; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 22:14:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com x-originating-ip: 208.109.97.160 Message-ID: <50B7DE3C.6040401@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 17:14:20 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen to Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119371 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 22:14:24 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EST/GMT-5 on Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long Special Focus on Palancar. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Serenetatis" on Earth Mantra netlabel. The Special Focus page is at: http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#oct I will play music by artists who will play at area concerts such as the Soundscapes Concert Series on Sunday, December 2. Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 29 23:58:19 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0395D18347E; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 23:58:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <3x09@carlsonarts.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 15430.49809.bm@smtp104.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: hd_yRo8VM1l9tHl_0w2vDAKMivXAiLrN_.rcPKPAbsqoqPN nyX_xvXkK_84L7GLRxVm8iborAUMxDXE09I.iXWNMbqiDnwayvSnMlESA3Xm bMoEiyHalwNVELfrniL_HvmnxcFJDMOEFCNELCq22jnVkp_Tqy4SCJOsrbKZ TETFupwdggaLaHyw0trk6GKs1phEyx94RuRyn_BmPLUXhMqESwXvw3h9Br6s YC1z6MLs8bYIOE2PoQVz3gUqcTwfW49qxsL_sNEjXBEROPCLUaYoGh3fpBj8 BsiIMoOdqltM0fSIV423FsYXYY7.Lqd4p7fpMgRnabQ1vfQI05Srphx8OTSz iBf57nMCKaf.Vg5tq75APDMbTBV_SFcE383NLRYLWEh4cOgbw7iDtDwdmEfY RqWfUMKuMXI3HgW1guP0ST_Qs20o8fzgHHg_8Ht4QnFPIoCGGWfNdtbmSE03 jRxHp2EucHjJPyu4p6SFR08nB89TnGjQm5zYQzW4liW2RAU7x42aQcwvJjof eW4q90kZgQ_L8voGZU_sbU9xWbjtK72Pd7lSldIWyXKRd4mGUZwUmTWPQSl_ YdPCNpyn2Mlyh7u9YJemZu6XyaTt.QSW064ArbMuuWQ-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: D9yazeWswBDL7tdRauhy7AWumUUpVr1iIdv0O0tl6PLXPr1F Subject: Re: Korg Microsampler as a looping tool References: <1354225326.60345.YahooMailClassic@web84515.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: TripleOhNine <3x09@carlsonarts.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-28-116656839 In-Reply-To: <1354225326.60345.YahooMailClassic@web84515.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <7C22F171-8E59-48DC-A41A-0F3B47DE4916@carlsonarts.com> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 15:58:15 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <9e10JC.A.QbE.aa_tQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119372 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 23:58:18 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-28-116656839 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii WE WORK ALL NIGHT AND WE SLEEP ALL DAY! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:42 PM, Tim Mungenast wrote: > > WE ARE ALL LUMBERJACKS! > WE ARE ALL OK! > > Tim Mungenast > Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast > Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast > > --- On Thu, 11/29/12, Rick Walker wrote: --Apple-Mail-28-116656839 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii WE = WORK ALL NIGHT
AND WE SLEEP ALL DAY!

On Nov = 29, 2012, at 1:42 PM, Tim Mungenast wrote:


WE ARE ALL LUMBERJACKS!
WE ARE ALL OK!

Tim Mungenast
Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmu= ngenast
Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/tim= mungenast

--- On Thu, 11/29/12, Rick Walker = <looppool@cruzio.com> = wrote:

= --Apple-Mail-28-116656839-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 30 00:02:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 345AB18347D; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 00:02:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=SeZ3AwU8fC4sluTTc7WI8mlzwr+qLF+0B6/ijhVYWgs=; b=hs+f2gQQnv4UwsKnUtoTZO9YpgxhEFBDvukvaoWLK465Sqq4uLtWtc3OWMbnHqgcxL XGU+BpoPw1dFAU5Ddyi5FjCgQx3MWJZGxJrVdwfjZi+fNLXfbfYJZYY6WoR8kgBfTJVt lkz6dmE05XoZ8QDJHlzE0lJ/5ca3LQnOtQmu+uugfjC79+Zk+TPyABMYpOpUrlbhJAs1 N8iByJUvR3nKxuQQrhvIkr5tJOqnMH4QmcdP3ii6f+fgJspH6cSrZpGOIJOrPMd8j7qo L5dcY2rKr9vhbXrQEqZC1M7H7pEnSPESDIionzY/IemjSSaHs/iP7S9EwWWFcZJkpviX uS2Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <7C22F171-8E59-48DC-A41A-0F3B47DE4916@carlsonarts.com> References: <1354225326.60345.YahooMailClassic@web84515.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <7C22F171-8E59-48DC-A41A-0F3B47DE4916@carlsonarts.com> From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 01:01:54 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: VaExrNNdJUWAL7q6ooif6Iy9lfA Message-ID: Subject: Re: Korg Microsampler as a looping tool To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b66f329b94c6f04cfab1c9e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119373 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 00:02:16 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b66f329b94c6f04cfab1c9e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 We pull on womens clothing, just like my dear Papa! On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:58 AM, TripleOhNine <3x09@carlsonarts.com> wrote: > WE WORK ALL NIGHT > AND WE SLEEP ALL DAY! > > On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:42 PM, Tim Mungenast wrote: > > > WE ARE ALL LUMBERJACKS! > WE ARE ALL OK! > > Tim Mungenast > Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast > Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast > > --- On *Thu, 11/29/12, Rick Walker * wrote: > > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b66f329b94c6f04cfab1c9e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We pull on womens clothing, just like my dear Papa!


On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:58 AM,= TripleOhNine <3x09@carlsonarts.com> wrote:
WE WORK = ALL NIGHT
AND WE SLEEP ALL DAY!

On Nov 29, 2012= , at 1:42 PM, Tim Mungenast wrote:


WE ARE = ALL LUMBERJACKS!
WE ARE ALL OK!

Tim Mungenast
Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast
Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timm= ungenast

--- On Thu, 11/29/12, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:




--
Mark Francombe=
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
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--047d7b66f329b94c6f04cfab1c9e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 30 03:52:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7875A18347A; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 03:52:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 808184.11303.bm@omp1010.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1354247524; bh=xyFUV/EA3VLT0YV9r6ksvWSiqPqCHhhH/Hr/gpApCXw=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zxCvyuO1WTJ9Nm401iD9HPRP/OCVZ/LTnWFxwBFL01OhFQ20vxGk5rbxqynna9N1lr+DGunbzuyNih48sPSYz7UiaH4FafJq9IA6nv17NQVrk+0syLJo2ccJKyUXpnpB4n4d9wA365jlRngf1lIb4r2sE8M19xaoGEhMWcAHPOo= X-YMail-OSG: MFo4CREVM1lyHSe1IUlV6ViWom6LWBywJV9L5HHQVRUJDbe nzwOQmWSoe7LP8m3Xs8SLodXAx7sJN7oAx4FUpxdJa.BIKcltHopI.0RQT2j yjsxPRan7atWhwbeeOcA79PZMpi3b5lLVzBHB5qCO8.PJlAfvFvG.dp5qX2A _vuxvNfElUUAmIDlz5KBA6qdDvzKFawrNS1v7qiHZ1hghQbWnz4j2mcFaQ4Y 8k3c45pXRIHAAVmh0R2nYHBOM8t.BKe3iLdeV.WIXpHuSf99awjfD5dgEExp V4CtbVnp8Y5XaKVWHR1re1kXrkOVlUWuWdVqKl3SVYrJSRj870JNTb5uf.QO _TkhiTHxhFxAnhvlndF335lBG53k.2sl0KSfiV3du6mHhe8UH_lAHBn.WlJZ WJXgyQrvi5kze1XVmpsaQeJuuSXeAz40HMNryMeb8FvkBZIyz_sot.JGVvtJ FUos7AR.87_4be6ruN7WAwjILTxh.1YYRbzqodJrgHP9GhsjEaVBsTt58Mhg PM.8_9Oz.Pe5sI6UQ7Qv0JHP4uRdw9FG.E_JQZlLb.wDKIgsDkdEAhr8i5fD ze2EeCoVOuplKsbXO8hVMJCl.cKASG2EHVnLVirXhs8.V9AR4zmSeRHNdARR SXGyJ3YSVY8.wYCTcglAAjaFkNvHhkUVrMcAOGGvA7WzDuqa3Q4w50Y0IAfu 2nH0P1f3VDon_Imqhqya7ZqW2oG1nsWzaHW90o.Mo3lWwIANi_vZ7SpkV.d7 axDaD5DOwFCAUQevnI.V6rDUBENDRCWhZxpmHCgCjqn96yunYC2brHXVuO4F vd.LurCVTMG2SqVtw_QXiW5_DxlME0oyydyBL4En0qsiAUVWdl8qRL3dyMEE 1hLPAAYeblzlTdBafu6SOKEPIc9UlHv4q6u_LJIkfJv.t2S7qqdNziDwlFYY g5aHNHPHBjwCtQJEldPFX7_10CE4SrmxrU8DNMVWrbWBW5pWoj5x.yvgof73 RrVGA X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,DQpUaGVuIHRoZXJlJ3MgdGhlIGV4Y2l0aW5nIHdvcmxkIG9mIGNoYXJ0ZXJlZCBhY2NvdW50YW5jeS4gOy0pDQoNClRpbSBNdW5nZW5hc3QNCkVkaXRvci9Xcml0ZXIvUHJvb2ZyZWFkZXI6IHd3dy5saW5rZWRpbi5jb20vaW4vdGltbXVuZ2VuYXN0DQpHdWl0YXJpc3QvQ29tcG9zZXIvVm9jYWxpc3Q6IHd3dy5yZXZlcmJuYXRpb24uY29tL3RpbW11bmdlbmFzdA0KDQotLS0gT24gVGh1LCAxMS8yOS8xMiwgbWFyayBmcmFuY29tYmUgPG1hcmtAbWFya2ZyYW5jb21iZS5jb20.IHdyb3RlOg0KDQpGcm9tOiBtYXIBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.127.475 Message-ID: <1354247524.25029.YahooMailClassic@web84512.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:52:04 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Mungenast Subject: Re: Korg Microsampler as a looping tool To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-821251416-553214259-1354247524=:25029" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119374 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 03:52:06 +0000 (UTC) ---821251416-553214259-1354247524=:25029 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Then there's the exciting world of chartered accountancy. ;-) Tim Mungenast Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast --- On Thu, 11/29/12, mark francombe wrote: From: mark francombe Subject: Re: Korg Microsampler as a looping tool To: "loopers-delight" Date: Thursday, November 29, 2012, 7:01 PM We pull on womens clothing, just like my dear Papa! On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:58 AM, TripleOhNine <3x09@carlsonarts.com> wrote: WE WORK ALL NIGHTAND WE SLEEP ALL DAY! On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:42 PM, Tim Mungenast wrote: WE ARE ALL LUMBERJACKS! WE ARE ALL OK! Tim Mungenast Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast --- On Thu, 11/29/12, Rick Walker wrote: -- Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ ---821251416-553214259-1354247524=:25029 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Then there's the exciting world of chartered accountancy. ;-)

Tim Mungenast
Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast
Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast

--- On Thu, 11/29/12, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:

From: mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
Subject: Re: Korg Microsampler as a looping tool
To: "loopers-delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Date: Thursday, November 29, 2012, 7:01 PM

We pull on womens clothing, just like my dear Papa!


On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:58 AM, TripleOhNine <3x09@carlsonarts.com> wrote:
WE WORK ALL NIGHT
AND WE SLEEP ALL DAY!

On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:42 PM, Tim Mungenast wrote:


WE ARE ALL LUMBERJACKS!
WE ARE ALL OK!

Tim Mungenast
Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast
Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast

--- On Thu, 11/29/12, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:




--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/

---821251416-553214259-1354247524=:25029-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 30 04:16:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 926B818348C; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 04:16:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=yPFgiAjVSDlBUa5MCTKHaRao6K7GvoxLLgQ1Mq9xfis=; b=RCPjXcspQ5Rp2sgjpuSYMDTsIzyOxntmhM/DD8ycy5jeblD4e6lyIIDQZH7wq8rdtM 8ctsNNbFGcnF/1OUzncPsFRbZCkmqDBy6uheyjKFVOKKLcUBVTBuAMKrOjQNp1WAWsN2 RS70PHDXw0hJVGZ/lVjdwB/OSdA9RSJLmtDZP5QZCouy0tWX8FiSrpoIWs9yXWb/ZkAe dXuipNUNFgs0IVRCxwjfr+/Zj+RIQ6coDXEN1A1vqCBuFIIZVbLFLvIUq4Rk8MJmxUq9 YBFtkjUXxQf3dfVHzzmXlvJHzQaUTFWTKQG13DwmKb1OUpCe1qq6IzY23YMZJZSCssDp ZL/w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 22:15:59 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: re: electrix mo-fx? From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04428b6a284e7404cfaea87b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119375 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 04:16:00 +0000 (UTC) --f46d04428b6a284e7404cfaea87b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i was looking in the archive and saw some discussion on the electrix mo-fx? (from '09!) does anyone still use one/like it/dislike it? i know it's a bit old and the company of course is sadly defunct...i had been thinking about, it seems i keep coming back to it as an idea...i know the delay is only 2.6 sec, but honestly that's about all i use when i've been looping as of late (of course i did just move and everything is in storage...so only using my zoom g3 w/ headphones... miss my amp, fuzz, and delays!!!!) just curious of the mo-fx's use anymore....or has everyone gone computer software....probably.... thanks, s--- --f46d04428b6a284e7404cfaea87b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i was looking in the archive and saw some discussion on the electrix mo-fx?= (from '09!)
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--f46d04428b6a284e7404cfaea87b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 30 05:49:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EEE6918347E; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 05:49:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date :to; bh=3rW6NOoB8JCXN0/3SIsCnOWNS1zi0XGt3kmh3k8uins=; b=aNhHw4utUr4cd9BTSWZ4ZK+IPWUWJAeUCvU5V0fHgeA0URzonMXraoxyWMZkydwiKb W50GsDZX9U+U4raGVQJ+JQF/wFyeJ1O835FD/1bDBrgCWkrpzFebZwLnh4WXJDU5xfCe XwChJpNNDXeKZS7OIlKenzQ2e48OAmvxKYWIuAC3AjzehHl10Sv+IpGnBLRzgCqXl8+C VHjjTL+lzmCGVrnIsj7Z8GLlNwwc2EViAF7/75Z9qcHgalYKaKLraMvAXXlCgU1Utovb znIm/BrooMtj3BNE5y/RCKF/FIcCs/nGIQwF9RZoKNsSJGTPqfX3F3lIe6J2DPpW0FWJ Vi8g== References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10A525) From: Philip Clevenger Subject: Re: electrix mo-fx? Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 21:49:50 -0800 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119376 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 05:49:52 +0000 (UTC) I love all that old Electrix hardware... Had the full complement for a time.= .. All still works great, sounds great... Super cheap too :) I gave it up fo= r the greater flexibility of digital though...=20 Sent from my iPhone On Nov 29, 2012, at 8:15 PM, Scott Hansen wrote: > i was looking in the archive and saw some discussion on the electrix mo-fx= ? (from '09!) > does anyone still use one/like it/dislike it? > i know it's a bit old and the company of course is sadly defunct...i had b= een thinking about, it seems i keep > coming back to it as an idea...i know the delay is only 2.6 sec, but hones= tly that's about all i use when i've been > looping as of late (of course i did just move and everything is in storage= ...so only using my zoom g3 w/ headphones... > miss my amp, fuzz, and delays!!!!) > just curious of the mo-fx's use anymore....or has everyone gone computer s= oftware....probably.... > thanks, > s--- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 30 08:10:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28F09183491; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 08:10:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=nQHreKhGYaTmF6OEqTIBy35VR29uT75CCOkfEcjj/tw=; b=c5nhooZHm4QZ36AINngQjjUIFi70nzP/hG0CpZKwtQuLO0DAj3rwXLgqB/+ZnASgb4 5hF72TdRue/Y63zkuvTNETdyqX2Pf8mb92CFv5TKrxirvSJEwFu/IQnX5/1DcIRSQ2jW AracNhwS/LJVgmE8umIh7aKqBUFBTwMW2xQOVKYnSpkdEVFal/HsPg4Ljbf0UETMGU80 EMThFwfVy8s3J1hN9Ga+313Hx1/BYyzRm/ki2OODJntfIKoDx/HfmH8mabD/VElfSRJK 3STOaNEHzZa0zinvZF+Z0O3c0/AsYGjOKL1g/+WBHXLba2+chXIeybbvsdxkcmWgPaKp b9dg== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Subject: Re: electrix mo-fx? From: Philip In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 17:10:46 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4C55A8AC-CA4C-48A7-BD41-3F1DA6FF09DB@gmail.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Resent-Message-ID: <5fZep.A.S7H.LoGuQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119377 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 08:10:52 +0000 (UTC) The MoFx is digital, as is the Repeater. I love the beat sync and knob = twiddlability of the old Electrix units. I don't think any of the effects on the Mo-Fx are particularly stellar, = I will probably pick one up if one comes up for sale cheap here in = Japan. The fact that you can easily tap tempo them to match whatever you = are playing and and mangle the bejeezus out of your loops in sync with = what you are doing is great. The momentary buttons are also very cool. The Filter Factory is a great analog filter. Perhaps not as crazy as a = Sherman, but a lot of fun nonetheless. I also have a Repeater which is = fun easy-to-use looper--beat sync is great, as is the ability to save on = CF cards, if you find the right ones. The form factor is not so great if you are using Electrix units in a = standard rack, but they are convenient for tabletop and on an elevated = rack mount stand type setup--which is handy for playing with the knobs = in real time. On Nov 30, 2012, at 2:49 PM, Philip Clevenger wrote: > I love all that old Electrix hardware... Had the full complement for a = time... All still works great, sounds great... Super cheap too :) I gave = it up for the greater flexibility of digital though...=20 >=20 > Sent from my iPhone >=20 > On Nov 29, 2012, at 8:15 PM, Scott Hansen = wrote: >=20 >> i was looking in the archive and saw some discussion on the electrix = mo-fx? (from '09!) >> does anyone still use one/like it/dislike it? >> i know it's a bit old and the company of course is sadly defunct...i = had been thinking about, it seems i keep >> coming back to it as an idea...i know the delay is only 2.6 sec, but = honestly that's about all i use when i've been >> looping as of late (of course i did just move and everything is in = storage...so only using my zoom g3 w/ headphones... >> miss my amp, fuzz, and delays!!!!) >> just curious of the mo-fx's use anymore....or has everyone gone = computer software....probably.... >> thanks, >> s--- >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 30 08:49:58 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 077F8183491; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 08:49:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=5AyAfWn/vLTLbyKZvpaT05KcSFAxMIPiaKYqKMa8aPc=; b=IItDr4xoRXwnyhqQ8NDTP4iaXE22oqhiuvA8OYgynBWEFhPzaw2z1jbad7v913EUkW g5sclySRTHQ1kuOjmNXLQPjwhH6am6Ayjwkh4whHMhK/YWfdYaFYeGZCSCAsmnSpKcMQ glSq4pHFse2XIfojhJ90rvy9p9R4TXtLnIK/xIg37a9Kv3U2M51hMRxUWJZg3pp0vJS5 spNGAN34+4rvz1lpV2jAI2UsBIacQmKX91MhBP/ZMpXkgErI9YLF5iKtvE75Gm4fUhJ9 jq57+c0RKYTw/8nwanJkLpb7XRAyEqjkPx7NaYAcfr7R83nQM/JLIixzz+RyYMSVfQH2 kapw== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: electrix mo-fx? From: Philip Clevenger In-Reply-To: <4C55A8AC-CA4C-48A7-BD41-3F1DA6FF09DB@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 00:49:51 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <005E5F47-83EF-49E8-83C1-6EA94017391A@gmail.com> References: <4C55A8AC-CA4C-48A7-BD41-3F1DA6FF09DB@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119378 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 08:49:57 +0000 (UTC) Fair point, what I mean to say was, I gave up the hardware in favor of = software=85 And yes - the "twiddle-ability" of all the knobs is tremendous fun :) P=20 On Nov 30, 2012, at 12:10 AM, Philip wrote: > The MoFx is digital, as is the Repeater. I love the beat sync and knob = twiddlability of the old Electrix units. >=20 > I don't think any of the effects on the Mo-Fx are particularly = stellar, I will probably pick one up if one comes up for sale cheap here = in Japan. The fact that you can easily tap tempo them to match whatever = you are playing and and mangle the bejeezus out of your loops in sync = with what you are doing is great. The momentary buttons are also very = cool. >=20 > The Filter Factory is a great analog filter. Perhaps not as crazy as a = Sherman, but a lot of fun nonetheless. I also have a Repeater which is = fun easy-to-use looper--beat sync is great, as is the ability to save on = CF cards, if you find the right ones. >=20 > The form factor is not so great if you are using Electrix units in a = standard rack, but they are convenient for tabletop and on an elevated = rack mount stand type setup--which is handy for playing with the knobs = in real time. >=20 >=20 > On Nov 30, 2012, at 2:49 PM, Philip Clevenger wrote: >=20 >> I love all that old Electrix hardware... Had the full complement for = a time... All still works great, sounds great... Super cheap too :) I = gave it up for the greater flexibility of digital though...=20 >>=20 >> Sent from my iPhone >>=20 >> On Nov 29, 2012, at 8:15 PM, Scott Hansen = wrote: >>=20 >>> i was looking in the archive and saw some discussion on the electrix = mo-fx? (from '09!) >>> does anyone still use one/like it/dislike it? >>> i know it's a bit old and the company of course is sadly defunct...i = had been thinking about, it seems i keep >>> coming back to it as an idea...i know the delay is only 2.6 sec, but = honestly that's about all i use when i've been >>> looping as of late (of course i did just move and everything is in = storage...so only using my zoom g3 w/ headphones... >>> miss my amp, fuzz, and delays!!!!) >>> just curious of the mo-fx's use anymore....or has everyone gone = computer software....probably.... >>> thanks, >>> s--- >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 30 11:04:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 11663183492; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 11:03:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <50B892A3.4080406@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 03:04:03 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philip Clevenger CC: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: Re: Re: electrix mo-fx? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119379 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 11:03:59 +0000 (UTC) I still own almost the entire Electrix line. What I especially love about these units is that they put the kinds of sturdy buttons onto them that were put on drum machines of the day. Each of them, from the Mo-FX to the Filter Factory to the Warp Factory (vocoder) have a mode where if you hit a momentary button, you can rhythmically play either the addition or the substraction of the particular effect in a rhythmic way. The effects themselves are perfunctory and there are better ones on the market, technically speaking............ the abiltity, however, to be able to play them by taking them off or on in a momentary fashion with a single finger playing a rhythm is unlike most multi-effects boxes on the market. Think about it...............if you are running a drum loop and everytime the backbeat occurs, you rock a super rapid square wave tremelo, or a radically e-q-ed filter in a momentary fashion, you have the ability to do very hip rhythmic processing. I say go for it. It just does a few simple things, but nothing else on the market has ever done it with quite the same paradigm. I still love Electrix!!!! Rick Walker aka loop.pool On 11/29/2012 9:49 PM, Philip Clevenger wrote: > I love all that old Electrix hardware... Had the full complement for a time... All still works great, sounds great... Super cheap too :) I gave it up for the greater flexibility of digital though... > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 29, 2012, at 8:15 PM, Scott Hansen wrote: > >> i was looking in the archive and saw some discussion on the electrix mo-fx? (from '09!) >> does anyone still use one/like it/dislike it? >> i know it's a bit old and the company of course is sadly defunct...i had been thinking about, it seems i keep >> coming back to it as an idea...i know the delay is only 2.6 sec, but honestly that's about all i use when i've been >> looping as of late (of course i did just move and everything is in storage...so only using my zoom g3 w/ headphones... >> miss my amp, fuzz, and delays!!!!) >> just curious of the mo-fx's use anymore....or has everyone gone computer software....probably.... >> thanks, >> s--- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 30 11:41:55 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 04CF0183494; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 11:41:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=uINjPS+T4LKc9FSyttuEsGO1w4ZAVmfrUsO7eQXTRug=; b=vcPjesLN+M2yLOVe4/kA6N5sJx2mczCDugtQ0rWR8b9TivSUHemX3gyjBQMSDQA0FD bZFcxuLETNV7+9H9LJqVpKGfnR57T/0jFOdwIAtLqsT+HYIey9DkSTpZQ7GBhoPQVjic Pef2yqCwGthzCixlwYP9xxNg7HRS09gYnQu7/wvheXXbjrAytf8oiOpN2dDGVyrm9DRg BgrD6zu/QbKNOc1ZjROIQynLbkPwFdVO0yiyhwsdFZOYPXppKElO39K1JMCOOa4Xdm91 +uuTc+p36tsoTjG+T11eKp053y9yWqx96H6EJ3KnT5Qmm9dWej1V7hwFJ2vvgDNX2cNu 1Y7w== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 12:41:53 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: electrix mo-fx? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119380 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 11:41:54 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 5:15 AM, Scott Hansen wrote: > electrix mo-fx Never had that particular unit but I was quite fond of its family member Repeater! Did a great job with an EDP in a rack with a mixer on the top. Sold it almost ten years ago when software solutions became available. I've fiddled with the excellent Filter Factory too in studios I've passed by, but that too is something I prefer keeping always handy inside a laptop. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 30 13:46:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A568183495; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 13:46:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1354283052; bh=qgdlbDYiXOvkIs/RbJRtgMqTxFUkV3guJauQQA6gmpU=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Date:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Message-Id:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer; b=q6kkALKgCePWdZdqhFi1TlNzxCju4htST6EGdAzfLxRm2FTlJ9emWeSX5m0v+ChK2gwyK8ngaBhvWVIE/WiB+tcRDLWcCWKOCmDOyrPs2lsuLZ32Wq+RwEeEsZXQ6UDScMqdg1dZ12+j2BSAGYBd45ODeR2S9y8QE4egGSyRmO8= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 263107.31877.bm@smtp124.mail.ukl.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: qJuK77UVM1nwk9.ga559oPfnnAF80_AMbT8vW8pvUcam5yS IJ1B.e0ahAoU4JZmyk1YYwPZhXhjhKRJz7hZG6w2dZsmbNGIe9h783hkreGQ WGwTcLgeoWhW50izGv9ggyU6oMt4DmIt8hLjcHDhiXodgdo3a5rnbpYXjIpe b5AfMNICK2.fLH8jUWo.SQkKS148RRTZaAlA8c.s6MOnFJSW.OJEmbNBTE4j WawPDzvQHMgcnuKQzg2gWio5RGTSdBIHZYsvKLfa8Ke12pHAYFIPMo94lAnq De2_vaoYrKcQ2wxXk_k7FZjBRo6dUHRCM9U2L0FL9fikyx_HnOLrvF3DFsr5 t6YC7mAzUqCmQPvo2cw2A5Nqd2OeE3ITriq1KMQ2FINyW4ueSwvfyKdONZSA CACuSVzwwfvCGws7tYZXRSjeJ9HAgoq_lQMqyNScCxOEW5Ew- X-Yahoo-SMTP: 75CdczOswBChen.W3AbLhaW8TlC96TVo5w-- From: Ben To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 14:44:12 +0100 Subject: Re: Korg Microsampler as a looping tool In-Reply-To: References: <20121129130803.52B12E48.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> Message-Id: <20121130144412.0BF99980.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: nPOPuk Ver 2.16 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119381 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 13:46:46 +0000 (UTC) Sergio Girardi wrote: > Mmm, a bit complicated. The loops must have all the same length, right? THe same of the first one. Hi Sergio, That's what he's using in this case, yes. The pedal is just to "arm" recording', then you have to press the key on which to record. As he doesn't want to do it by hand, he has prepared a 2 bars pattern as a "container" of "empty" slots (note-on/note-off). Each slots is indeed 2 bars long (or almost so as the note-off is a bit before the note-on when the pattern restarts). He could have choosen some note as 1/4, 1/8, or whatever and any pattern he likes. It's a bit like using an MPC, preparing the sequence (midi) then only adding the sound later. The sequence is just needed to trigger the recording and then trigger the newly recorded sample. The MS has several sampling modes and he's using "sampling triggered by a note for a given amount of time (2bars)." > Or well, surely not more, or it happens what happened with the last loop to him.WHat if while preparing the slots you press the key less time than the first loop's length? With this technique the loop will be shorter but still retriggered every 2 bars by its note-on event so still in sync. You can do stutter effects if you like or do "replace" like in EDP/LPx, then change the pattern for other effects. The difference is that you can do this on 36 "tracks". So, there is no way to just press play and start recording and press again to stop recording and start playing, deciding on your own the length of each loop? > you can not do REC/PLAY, no. Its REC/STOP/PLAY but there are other modes (gate mode) where you can decide the length of course. It's a nice way to do quick multisampling. Just connect an external module via midi and record it's output. ARM sampling, play a "scale" on the MS keyboard; it will trigger the sound module and sample at the same time while the key is down. I haven't touch my MS for a while, but this video gave me the envy to start again. Ben From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 30 14:59:39 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C822418349A; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 14:59:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [217.92.117.212] X-EIP: [1txqCPQ2N3MNqZyQbLANn2IacfzSOqxN] X-Originating-Email: [satyam.shivam.sundaram@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_7acad247-6073-4421-bfb9-339d573f889b_" From: Sergio Girardi Sender: To: Subject: RE: Korg Microsampler as a looping tool Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 15:59:38 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20121130144412.0BF99980.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> References: <20121129130803.52B12E48.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> ,<20121130144412.0BF99980.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Nov 2012 14:59:38.0553 (UTC) FILETIME=[51AD8A90:01CDCF0B] Resent-Message-ID: <2HyaqD.A.OLD.bnMuQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119382 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 14:59:39 +0000 (UTC) --_7acad247-6073-4421-bfb9-339d573f889b_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes. I have an MS too. ANd I do not touch it ever. Actually=2C having the o= ctatrack and the Kaoss Pad I was quite sure about selling it.The reason why= I am not selling it yet is that at first I would have liked at least to tr= y it out :) ANd that I have a midi keyboard of 49 keys=2C and I think that = sometimes I may need a little one=2C and this has got no transpose but=2C w= ell=2C may work.I like the mode where you can slice=2C I mean=2C record som= ething in many different keys in sequence=2C so that you have the first 2 s= econds in the first key=2C the other 2 seconds on the second key etc.The Oc= tatrack does it too=2C but I still am not sure how it works there... I will try something in the future now that I will have time :) Thanks! > From: benoitruelle@yahoo.fr > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Fri=2C 30 Nov 2012 14:44:12 +0100 > Subject: Re: Korg Microsampler as a looping tool >=20 >=20 > Sergio Girardi wrote: > > Mmm=2C a bit complicated. The loops must have all the same length=2C ri= ght? THe same of the first one. > Hi Sergio=2C >=20 > That's what he's using in this case=2C yes. > The pedal is just to "arm" recording'=2C then you have to press the key=20 > on which to record. As he doesn't want to do it by hand=2C he has=20 > prepared a 2 bars pattern as a "container" of "empty" slots=20 > (note-on/note-off). Each slots is indeed 2 bars long (or almost so as=20 > the note-off is a bit before the note-on when the pattern restarts). > He could have choosen some note as 1/4=2C 1/8=2C or whatever and any=20 > pattern he likes. It's a bit like using an MPC=2C preparing the sequence > (midi) then only adding the sound later. > The sequence is just needed to trigger the recording and then trigger=20 > the newly recorded sample. The MS has several sampling modes and he's=20 > using "sampling triggered by a note for a given amount of time=20 > (2bars)." > =20 > > Or well=2C surely not more=2C or it happens what happened with the last= loop to him.WHat if while preparing the slots you press the key less time = than the first loop's length? >=20 > With this technique the loop will be shorter but still retriggered=20 > every 2 bars by its note-on event so still in sync. > You can do stutter effects if you like or do "replace" like in=20 > EDP/LPx=2C then change the pattern for other effects. The difference is=20 > that you can do this on 36 "tracks". >=20 > So=2C there is no way to just press play and start recording and press=20 > again to stop recording and start playing=2C deciding on your own the=20 > length of each loop? > > > you can not do REC/PLAY=2C no. Its REC/STOP/PLAY but there are other=20 > modes (gate mode) where you can decide the length of course. It's a=20 > nice way to do quick multisampling. Just connect an external module=20 > via midi and record it's output. ARM sampling=2C play a "scale" on the=20 > MS keyboard=3B it will trigger the sound module and sample at the same=20 > time while the key is down. >=20 > I haven't touch my MS for a while=2C but this video gave me the envy to=20 > start again. >=20 > Ben >=20 >=20 = --_7acad247-6073-4421-bfb9-339d573f889b_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes. I have an MS too. ANd I do not touch it ever. Actually=2C having the o= ctatrack and the Kaoss Pad I was quite sure about selling it.
The reaso= n why I am not selling it yet is that at first I would have liked at least = to try it out :) ANd that I have a midi keyboard of 49 keys=2C and I think = that sometimes I may need a little one=2C and this has got no transpose but= =2C well=2C may work.
I like the mode where you can slice=2C I me= an=2C record something in many different keys in sequence=2C so that you ha= ve the first 2 seconds in the first key=2C the other 2 seconds on the secon= d key etc.
The Octatrack does it too=2C but I still am not sure h= ow it works there...

I will try something in the f= uture now that I will have time :)

Thanks!

=
>=3B From: benoitruelle@yahoo.= fr
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B Date: Fri=2C= 30 Nov 2012 14:44:12 +0100
>=3B Subject: Re: Korg Microsampler as a l= ooping tool
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B Sergio Girardi <=3Bsimpliflyi= ng@gmail.com>=3B wrote:
>=3B >=3B Mmm=2C a bit complicated. The lo= ops must have all the same length=2C right? THe same of the first one.
&= gt=3B Hi Sergio=2C
>=3B
>=3B That's what he's using in this case= =2C yes.
>=3B The pedal is just to "arm" recording'=2C then you have t= o press the key
>=3B on which to record. As he doesn't want to do it = by hand=2C he has
>=3B prepared a 2 bars pattern as a "container" of = "empty" slots
>=3B (note-on/note-off). Each slots is indeed 2 bars lo= ng (or almost so as
>=3B the note-off is a bit before the note-on whe= n the pattern restarts).
>=3B He could have choosen some note as 1/4= =2C 1/8=2C or whatever and any
>=3B pattern he likes. It's a bit like= using an MPC=2C preparing the sequence
>=3B (midi) then only adding t= he sound later.
>=3B The sequence is just needed to trigger the record= ing and then trigger
>=3B the newly recorded sample. The MS has sever= al sampling modes and he's
>=3B using "sampling triggered by a note f= or a given amount of time
>=3B (2bars)."
>=3B
>=3B >=3B= Or well=2C surely not more=2C or it happens what happened with the last lo= op to him.WHat if while preparing the slots you press the key less time tha= n the first loop's length?
>=3B
>=3B With this technique the loo= p will be shorter but still retriggered
>=3B every 2 bars by its note= -on event so still in sync.
>=3B You can do stutter effects if you lik= e or do "replace" like in
>=3B EDP/LPx=2C then change the pattern for= other effects. The difference is
>=3B that you can do this on 36 "tr= acks".
>=3B
>=3B So=2C there is no way to just press play and st= art recording and press
>=3B again to stop recording and start playin= g=2C deciding on your own the
>=3B length of each loop?
>=3B >= =3B
>=3B you can not do REC/PLAY=2C no. Its REC/STOP/PLAY but there ar= e other
>=3B modes (gate mode) where you can decide the length of cou= rse. It's a
>=3B nice way to do quick multisampling. Just connect an = external module
>=3B via midi and record it's output. ARM sampling=2C= play a "scale" on the
>=3B MS keyboard=3B it will trigger the sound = module and sample at the same
>=3B time while the key is down.
>= =3B
>=3B I haven't touch my MS for a while=2C but this video gave me = the envy to
>=3B start again.
>=3B
>=3B Ben
>=3B
= >=3B
= --_7acad247-6073-4421-bfb9-339d573f889b_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 30 15:02:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96A3E1834A4; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 15:02:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Y0bl5YbLrkbB9RsXj7ThPBGUMZwj5RSW2YWeA1jmnTM=; b=jT2UPA/d1/pi1apl+5bnpKHihJYtMMn9KsuCLwXFWZEMkWubhnz3s3G4B0wt1gBycI IV+yjNPEDdN8hIQrx0PdJf5lnED0Tmu6+1wd5l1Zdis5MihzPBkvtW2/xdbYrL2g0xfe i7Qt7epQn/PWWSnjCPCJSQGRrEzpFngarV5bGX83N6u59omgWK9aTbnHsY3xSfFhUfM9 m8cfNxBgNS7kqYOnbCCePvLRVyekJQTTeLCdmtmVdi04w8Jk1mkg74xyrSeKIwuF59Ui P2tLC7y9Dw+qJmPvTpLlQYhM/ThGdbJjJrvV5R7Hgddi9opoxKHLVYvsQRzRaBCrooO3 ZrbQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 09:02:28 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: electrix mo-fx? From: Charlie M To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9340c472ef28a04cfb7b0af Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119383 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 15:02:30 +0000 (UTC) --14dae9340c472ef28a04cfb7b0af Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have gone through 3 moFXs. I love them. Everyone already said what i like about them too, so i won't waste time, but the one thing that keeps me from ever keeping them is that the effects are parallel. If they were serial, then you could loop the effects too, and that would be steller. For a while i looped with two mofxs and it was nice, but i still got fed up with the parallel effects On Nov 30, 2012 5:42 AM, "Per Boysen" wrote: > On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 5:15 AM, Scott Hansen > wrote: > > electrix mo-fx > > > Never had that particular unit but I was quite fond of its family > member Repeater! Did a great job with an EDP in a rack with a mixer on > the top. Sold it almost ten years ago when software solutions became > available. I've fiddled with the excellent Filter Factory too in > studios I've passed by, but that too is something I prefer keeping > always handy inside a laptop. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > --14dae9340c472ef28a04cfb7b0af Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have gone through 3 moFXs. I love them. Everyone already said what i l= ike about them too, so i won't waste time, but the one thing that keeps= me from ever keeping them is that the effects are parallel. If they were s= erial, then you could loop the effects too, and that would be steller. For = a while i looped with two mofxs and it was nice, but i still got fed up wit= h the parallel effects

On Nov 30, 2012 5:42 AM, "Per Boysen" = <perboysen@gmail.com> wrot= e:
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 5:15 AM, Scott Hansen <evanpeewee@gmail.com> wrote:
> electrix mo-fx


Never had that particular unit but I was quite fond of its family
member Repeater! Did a great job with an EDP in a rack with a mixer on
the top. Sold it almost ten years ago when software solutions became
available. I've fiddled with the excellent Filter Factory too in
studios I've passed by, but that too is something I prefer keeping
always handy inside a laptop.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.y= outube.com/perboysen

--14dae9340c472ef28a04cfb7b0af-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 30 17:41:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F15818349A; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 17:41:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: electrix mo-fx? In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: michael klobuchar X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CF9D3900FC8AB9_1B1C_3714C_webmailstg-d04.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37225-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CF9D3900F30535-1B1C-E7CD@webmailstg-d04.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [151.201.26.206] Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 12:41:04 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20121107; t=1354297264; bh=o+CzsrQhw8zsQcxmAht0+SgEvay+N0C08KKm6iK/130=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FbN1jsnVSgZnNBpO7Y8hxS+PmpsWy5awgbhpsGQPkp7+C0Zw4uNAld4pET7QH2Z/r p4aWI/LtMlSipXvR83KLXcahFaj7frB1N1hNxIQN1yCu2f0fflTEgpqhW2ukr7NN83 RzLVY5ouPeW5Gw9X0c2BWXzIM6m8lTQl1145JatU= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:352976576:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c850b8efb0139b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119384 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 17:41:04 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CF9D3900FC8AB9_1B1C_3714C_webmailstg-d04.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" OLA SCOTT!.....i love my mo.....i wish the "delay" section came as a foot p= edal but it doesn't, sigh, you can still do a ton of stuff with it, it is a great mangler.....being ab= le to change the input frequencies is a deep gas, the artifacts you get when changing speed are a simple treat= and being able to tap tempo the input is swell .....in studio, i have the mo before=20 everything else, you pick up a looper, albeit short, it works as a bit of a= pre-amp with the "distortion" section, the FLANGE and the TREMOLO are iffy at best.....my mo is in a rack so i no = longer schlepp it around, even out of the rack, it's a heavy little log.....as i have said, it would make = an XCELLENT DELAY PEDAL.....but being a bit of a clone, this pedal may already be out there and i just don'= t know about it, if so, let me know..... as for, is there an app for it, that's the stuff of satan..... =20 ----------MB_8CF9D3900FC8AB9_1B1C_3714C_webmailstg-d04.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" OLA = SCOTT!.....i love my mo.....i wish the "delay" section came as a foot pedal= but it doesn't, sigh,

you can still do a ton of stuff with it, it is a great mangler.....bei= ng able to change the input frequencies

is a deep gas, the artifacts you get when changing speed are a simple = treat and being able to tap tempo the input is swell

.....in studio, i have the mo before 

everything else, you pick up a looper, albeit short, it works as a bit= of a pre-amp with the "distortion" section,

the FLANGE and the TREMOLO are iffy at best.....my mo is in a rack so = i no longer schlepp it around, even

out of the rack, it's a heavy little log.....as i have said, it would = make an XCELLENT DELAY PEDAL.....but

being a bit of a clone, this pedal may already be out there and i just= don't know about it, if so, let me know.....

as for, is there an app for it, that's the stuff of satan.....



 ----------MB_8CF9D3900FC8AB9_1B1C_3714C_webmailstg-d04.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 30 17:54:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30FFE18349F; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 17:54:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=helpwantedproductions.com; h=message-id:date:subject:from:to:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding; s=helpwantedproductions.com; bh=4OJ76 c/s+YTTj/f8qHVCo4F04is=; b=IaY9LxcBvVibqxc7Z+b884FwcR1dQwidSCBH6 +mvoHSV0j51JkuVbjSHI020Z7BbMZvR3aqsLp2hZp3I1R5EeiMPkPhp+MO7b/cgt DlOWwcb/xVHmrGO7iOZBJdjE3RoASRCoqvKYK+C0JMX+hXbcREygCmu+2K2RKXjD HppvYo= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 09:54:42 -0800 Subject: FS: Super BassStation, MAM PHaze2 - PHAT Holiday sale From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: "Loopers Delight" , "AH" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119385 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 17:54:44 +0000 (UTC) Selling two juicy analogs: Pictures and full descriptions at: http://daedsound.com/Salez/FS.htm 1. Novation Super BassStation Rack - $375 obo The flagship of the Novation analog synthesizers the Super BassSation Rac= k has two VCOs, Noise, Multiple waveforms, Ring mod, Cv/Gate, ARPEGGIATOR!!!, and more. Unlike all that followed this is 100% ANALOG. Of course it also has full midi implementation, external inpput, and knob= s galore (including TWO sets of ADSR envelopes for VCA and VCF). Excellent condition with power supply. These seem to sell for about $450 on Eb*y s= o bargain price for a great specimen. 2. MAM Phaze2 Stereo Ananlog Rack Phaser - $225 obo Amazingly juicy and sweet stereo Phaser with CV input! Great shape with P= S. bought this when I sold my Roland SPH323. Multiple Notches, built in LFO and nice phat wet Resonance. Lot's of Demo audio and more at: http://www.modezero.com/mam-phaze2.htm Buyer pays shipping or pickup in Phila PA. I accept paypal personal, USPS MO, or Paypal regular (buyer pays fees). Prices are very fair I think but I'll listen to serious offers. The MAM doesn't come up that often in particular and is a bit of a sleeper cool piece for guitar, drum machines, vocals, etc. Trades possible for EH POG2, Modcan A or Buchla modules (particularly interesting and well built DIY stuff). Thanks for looking. --------------------------------------- NEW DAED SITE!! - Http://DaedSound.com DAED: Circuit Bent and Unusual Sound Devices "Making Something Extraordinary from the Ordinary" Music and Downloads at the New Online Site: http://davidtalento.bandcamp.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 30 22:29:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7947318349C; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 22:29:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=WCG4UvVkqR9Y1taPNQwr+7yimNjPjTkHjNmkeE60Cg4=; b=sSM+GX4b0lRvnFUVrS6I7A7EcxmG+8u20L7Dfs/dV8/Q6+4SWsM54/bqqab6nUJyDb G/BJ0m3Uq0aCig/snQ8TTynLusHTBxxxvD4fGRqx/WmvC7cqFvkdjQWkLjl0yxYK4a9t aCHR2tOhn29WcnP7+/c5T/ZDc1OEJ19uh5Bubd6j9phwxaYhpmsLCMb9K7n5hRQlc3js bFlIIcyDRIEfnwYYm0t+O3sEJ2CHwZ0CVRP83Fl4nA9N6MtXJoyr9gUbqqw2E62mGC1o JikVPyu8Qnd+q6tZWvjDe2inUbqBBF4YrsNjzumNGRgWVlLZjLEZmS1BYCfuflzT5JXd PW0A== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 23:28:44 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: XsAXFM1seOu32Oe0yneGQ0UV4zY Message-ID: Subject: Voice apps? To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6042fa5bb18504cfbded1c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119386 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 22:29:06 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b6042fa5bb18504cfbded1c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Im looking for the Rolls Royce of Vocal processing iPad apps. I want 4 specific things. 1. Harmonies (choirs and the stupid auto tune) 2. A Passable ethereal reverb (long, twinkly and clear) 3. A rudimentary looper... No need to synch (cant anyway, Im using it with hardware, no lappys involved (tho I do have a missing link, but that works the wrong way)) 4. I want it all to work on an iPad1 I WANT IT ALL IN ONE APP AND I WANT IT NOW!! DELIVER INTERNET... DELIVER!!! Regards MArk (sorry... been dealing with annoying teenagers (20 something teenagers actually) for a few days..) -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b6042fa5bb18504cfbded1c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Im looking for the Rolls Royce of Vocal processing iPad apps.
I want 4 = specific=A0 things.

1. Harmonies (choirs and the stupid auto tune)2. A Passable ethereal reverb (long, twinkly and clear)
3. A rudimenta= ry looper... No need to synch (cant anyway, Im using it with hardware, no l= appys involved (tho I do have a missing link, but that works the wrong way)= )
4. I want it all to work on an iPad1

I WANT IT ALL IN ONE APP AND I = WANT IT NOW!!

DELIVER INTERNET... DELIVER!!!

Regards

M= Ark


(sorry... been dealing with annoying teenagers (20 something= teenagers actually) for a few days..)

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www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.c= om/photos/24478662@N00/

--047d7b6042fa5bb18504cfbded1c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 30 23:37:59 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FF921834A3; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 23:37:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=cLkN5cqmCm5dZYZhWKPNql1DYJt2Oaf4tVT/Sy8klVk=; b=cm/MbdpsBPkO1alkfAF+6zVyaiRiPCNc46tMWJZDiMKz+Nwh8Pu+uybe/3BJ2uPbAb 9ZN8rZguO0E3COSe66grB/12VnyXwxB8eo/MIHB6OHVzudrZQlQjljvwpsNng8c287x8 A4mAquVNkjT7jepxoaHUduYitz0QFl2gA4vDpcWj5WqGzmKdEzZ/AqV4ipOuXqjedc6w aiJ8HMuwNQy4va9Ff63rPFjrR/B6TcdQclgj/VbC83eQOplEuVGN63Yx3z0MmW7Kz+3b TA+iqLWg1jJP1XSUrZBvcQqhnoiwIO4lzzceBuMzFXuKjqNJtJW+XNKIhJcLYtWMK7ot pSVQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <8CF9D3900F30535-1B1C-E7CD@webmailstg-d04.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CF9D3900F30535-1B1C-E7CD@webmailstg-d04.sysops.aol.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 00:37:37 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: CSv01d_yOZGILT1xLJykDkg6L_I Message-ID: Subject: Re: electrix mo-fx? To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b343b04bd3e2b04cfbee349 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/119387 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 23:37:59 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b343b04bd3e2b04cfbee349 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I also stand up and proudly claim the honour of ownership of one of these beasts, again, no longer in the rack. Heres a track I recorded with friends with some serious MoFexing at the start... a track performed and recorded via NinJam between Oslo, Paris and Sao Paulo. http://soundcloud.com/markfrancombe/with-french-voice2 On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 6:41 PM, michael klobuchar wrote: > OLA SCOTT!.....i love my mo.....i wish the "delay" section came as a foot > pedal but it doesn't, sigh, > > you can still do a ton of stuff with it, it is a great mangler.....being > able to change the input frequencies > > is a deep gas, the artifacts you get when changing speed are a simple > treat and being able to tap tempo the input is swell > > .....in studio, i have the mo before > > everything else, you pick up a looper, albeit short, it works as a bit > of a pre-amp with the "distortion" section, > > the FLANGE and the TREMOLO are iffy at best.....my mo is in a rack so i > no longer schlepp it around, even > > out of the rack, it's a heavy little log.....as i have said, it would > make an XCELLENT DELAY PEDAL.....but > > being a bit of a clone, this pedal may already be out there and i just > don't know about it, if so, let me know..... > > as for, is there an app for it, that's the stuff of satan..... > > > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b343b04bd3e2b04cfbee349 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I also stand up and proudly claim the honour of ownership of one of these b= easts, again, no longer in the rack.
Heres a track I recorded with frien= ds with some serious MoFexing at the start... a track performed and recorde= d via NinJam between Oslo, Paris and Sao Paulo.

http= ://soundcloud.com/markfrancombe/with-french-voice2


On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 6:41 P= M, michael klobuchar <nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:
OLA SCOTT!.....i love my mo.....i wish the "delay"= ; section came as a foot pedal but it doesn't, sigh,

you can still do a ton of stuff with it, it is a great mangler.....bei= ng able to change the input frequencies

is a deep gas, the artifacts you get when changing speed are a simple = treat and being able to tap tempo the input is swell

.....in studio, i have the mo before=A0

everything else, you pick up a looper, albeit short, it works as a bit= of a pre-amp with the "distortion" section,

the FLANGE and the TREMOLO are iffy at best.....my mo is in a rack so = i no longer schlepp it around, even

out of the rack, it's a heavy little log.....as i have said, it wo= uld make an XCELLENT DELAY PEDAL.....but

being a bit of a clone, this pedal may already be out there and i just= don't know about it, if so, let me know.....

as for, is there an app for it, that's the stuff of satan.....



=20



--
Mark = Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
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