From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 1 03:35:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31E6D183462; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 03:35:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <50418266.7090409@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 23:35:02 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen to Thought Radio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118094 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 03:35:06 +0000 (UTC) THOUGHT RADIO: http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio ======================================================================= My next stint on Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show, will be Saturday, September 1 at 6 am EDT/GMT-4. In Phase One, I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs. I host the show every other week. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 1 16:40:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 27DAC18345E; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 16:40:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=CtVJ5SWHPP2yLqMdwvWuidu2UM/vsOAMqfJPpEkuS1Y=; b=lOCRHj/pE9fExOuumalWaWHCpQcz83IDKqbfrkqsYB1Gy+3km2ya5RlKYpgg6lHZ3K 3EOxSfYYyWNQHpephLbGT3jxKZERglIBFmn1InXq2BMAEYqDKIM8QFHWCyuueR2rFSl9 prslKgKIut7HjMeTnGhcY4P/m2x4wRcLzg+02yfyIwR/u/iauFXVBQ3npp7lYYQKU9GJ vU9u8zBew0tsbZvkwbae7wxYIGmJ+c0jITNty6M9ZLkWedd+UP0GDLBe3pxRMXeLsyhz B9UaXUp+tRf6NKQgt+ul/5PQMyhWbeZObm7LLqSJY0ExewWE55UO2do293upL5Elmdqr dzvA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <94BFF796-4205-4A5D-B22D-FC77CFD27961@googlemail.com> References: <94BFF796-4205-4A5D-B22D-FC77CFD27961@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 09:40:33 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Recommend an ABC switch? From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04446bfb3f2a3304c8a69102 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118095 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 16:40:34 +0000 (UTC) --f46d04446bfb3f2a3304c8a69102 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hmmm, I looked up the Lehle one. It looks like an ABC input but only an AB output. How about this, does someone make a mixer that just takes in one channel and sends it to left or right? Basically I want a 4-channel mixer backwards. It takes one signal and sends it to any of 4 outputs. Does it exist? Matt On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Simeon Harris < simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > Lehle make good ones > > Sent from my iPod > > On 29 Aug 2012, at 00:13, Matt Davignon wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I send my signal through 3 different looping chains, in order to get > > independent layers in my improvisations. I've been using Morley A/B/Y > > and A/B/C switches, because they're small and don't require AC power. > > However, they often make a loud popping noise in the audio signal > > whenever I switch channels. > > > > Does anyone know of an ABC switch that they'd recommend? I'm ideally > > looking for a small footprint - my gear table is running out of space. > > I also need to be able to choose multiple channels, such as A+C. > > > > -- > > Matt Davignon > > mattdavignon@gmail.com > > www.ribosomemusic.com > > Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com > > > > -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com --f46d04446bfb3f2a3304c8a69102 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hmmm, I looked up the Lehle one. It looks like an ABC input but only an AB = output.

How about this, does someone make a mixer that just takes i= n one channel and sends it to left or right? Basically I want a 4-channel m= ixer backwards. It takes one signal and sends it to any of 4 outputs. Does = it exist?

Matt

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 4:27 PM,= Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> w= rote:
Lehle make good ones

Sent from my iPod

On 29 Aug 2012, at 00:13, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I send my signal through 3 different looping chains, in order to get > independent layers in my improvisations. I've been using Morley A/= B/Y
> and A/B/C switches, because they're small and don't require AC= power.
> However, they often make a loud popping noise in the audio signal
> whenever I switch channels.
>
> Does anyone know of an ABC switch that they'd recommend? I'm i= deally
> looking for a small footprint - my gear table is running out of space.=
> I also need to be able to choose multiple channels, such as A+C.
>
> --
> Matt Davignon
> mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosom= emusic.com
> Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com
>




--
Matt Davign= on
mattdavig= non@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusic.com
Podcast! ht= tp://ribosomematt.podomatic.com

--f46d04446bfb3f2a3304c8a69102-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 1 17:33:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F4DF18345D; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 17:33:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; bh=yPG/pPbenszBxUqpGXDWt5kW3yq1+L1dfN12n4O+X4s=; b=D6/klDm/FoTurUsnFk+x8NBOlQhcE7ktDy7EnZBdpL1MKSIY7PnnXFXb71ylijZAQS GbLriGxKRaZs1a44YR86fT87njO3J6VnYi/PrnE5f+ziJTXn+0PEXE7mopfY0CkhG8L8 Q8qXtndC52Zii7ukLnW7ZxtzRajyl4e1u8+L+MJNFQ4FmxVHPERuYFpbjZ5kE5GjX3AE 2Y0SLHiUJ85KdE2u80DJ0QbDk1H8aNB69hV4HRGE68D2AqX8CVWd9VlRnbLCoEUHaqGZ Jq7y1FAq7OiHusVA3ZEu89dRcMGQLhfDk96ZSGLqNZi1A6etLUZev5dhaXC4yuvkkCzv OoqA== Message-Id: From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-993898237 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Recommend an ABC switch? Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 10:33:21 -0700 References: <94BFF796-4205-4A5D-B22D-FC77CFD27961@googlemail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118096 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 17:33:27 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-993898237 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sep 1, 2012, at 9:40 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > It takes one signal and sends it to any of 4 outputs. maybe http://www.rolls.com/product.php?pid=MX41b BobC http://soundcloud.com/rpcollier http://rpcollier.bandcamp.com/album/platz http://www.instructables.com/id/Instant-Thumb-Piano%3a-How-to-make-a-set-screw-lamel/ --Apple-Mail-1-993898237 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sep 1, 2012, = at 9:40 AM, Matt Davignon wrote:

It takes one = signal and sends it to any of 4 outputs. 


maybe


BobC<= /div>

Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118097 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 18:14:07 +0000 (UTC) ---1176906190-756052738-1346523245=:29979 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I use a=A0 DOD AC240 Resistance Mixer http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/141978-REG/DOD_VAC240_AC240_Resistanc= e_Mixer.html Kyle Dean Patten=20 P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA=A0 50131 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=20 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=3DKyle+Dean+Patten+ http://youtu.be/Mgy2dbQHkc4 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten=20 http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten=20 http://www.linkedin.com/in/kyledeanpatten --- On Sat, 9/1/12, RP Collier wrote: From: RP Collier Subject: Re: Recommend an ABC switch? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Saturday, September 1, 2012, 12:33 PM On Sep 1, 2012, at 9:40 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: It takes one signal and sends it to any of 4 outputs.=A0 maybehttp://www.rolls.com/product.php?pid=3DMX41b BobC http://soundcloud.com/rpcollierhttp://rpcollier.bandcamp.com/album/platzhtt= p://www.instructables.com/id/Instant-Thumb-Piano%3a-How-to-make-a-set-screw= -lamel/ ---1176906190-756052738-1346523245=:29979 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I use a  DOD AC240 Resistance Mixe= r

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/141978-REG/DOD_VAC24= 0_AC240_Resistance_Mixer.html



P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA  50131
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=3DKyle+Dean+Patten+

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http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten
http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten http://www.linkedin.com/in/kyledeanpatten

--- On = Sat, 9/1/12, RP Collier <skeptikalist@gmail.com> wrote:

From: RP Collier <skeptikalist@gmail.com&g= t;
Subject: Re: Recommend an ABC switch?
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-= delight.com
Date: Saturday, September 1, 2012, 12:33 PM


On Sep 1, 2012, at 9:40 AM, Matt Davig= non wrote:

It takes one signal and sends it to any of 4 outputs. 

maybe


BobC
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---1176906190-756052738-1346523245=:29979-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 1 19:45:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8527183462; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 19:45:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1200 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sat, 01 Sep 2012 19:45:52 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=nlrKf9u5uG3fs/vD0VBbL3/xzyN25p4t1WHsSeqasGo= c=1 sm=1 a=1RXOuN1PFOIA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=x869bV75QM0A:10 a=6wrDOa2Tlcs1iS1ByyX37A==:17 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=OT3O6O8lAAAA:8 a=o0ZD21Z9AAAA:8 a=mO-KUe3C0y6_Jr9qbaAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=XFrdKABsmMaDa80T1VAA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 a=gFJNk4JfIVsA:10 a=6wrDOa2Tlcs1iS1ByyX37A==:117 X-Auth-id: dGhldG95cm9vbUBjaGFydGVyLm5ldA== Subject: Re: Recommend an ABC switch? References: <94BFF796-4205-4A5D-B22D-FC77CFD27961@googlemail.com> From: Richard Atkinson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-1000451265 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8A306) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 12:22:31 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118098 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 19:45:52 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-1000451265 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Would the voodoo labs amp switcher be a viable candidate? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 1, 2012, at 9:40 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > Hmmm, I looked up the Lehle one. It looks like an ABC input but only an AB= output.=20 >=20 > How about this, does someone make a mixer that just takes in one channel a= nd sends it to left or right? Basically I want a 4-channel mixer backwards. I= t takes one signal and sends it to any of 4 outputs. Does it exist? >=20 > Matt >=20 > On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > Lehle make good ones >=20 > Sent from my iPod >=20 > On 29 Aug 2012, at 00:13, Matt Davignon wrote: >=20 > > Hi all, > > > > I send my signal through 3 different looping chains, in order to get > > independent layers in my improvisations. I've been using Morley A/B/Y > > and A/B/C switches, because they're small and don't require AC power. > > However, they often make a loud popping noise in the audio signal > > whenever I switch channels. > > > > Does anyone know of an ABC switch that they'd recommend? I'm ideally > > looking for a small footprint - my gear table is running out of space. > > I also need to be able to choose multiple channels, such as A+C. > > > > -- > > Matt Davignon > > mattdavignon@gmail.com > > www.ribosomemusic.com > > Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com > > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com >=20 --Apple-Mail-1-1000451265 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Would the voodoo labs amp switcher be a viable candidate?

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 1, 2012, at 9:40 AM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com> wrote:

Hmmm, I looked up the Lehle one. It looks like an ABC input but only an AB output.

How about this, does someone make a mixer that just takes in one channel and sends it to left or right? Basically I want a 4-channel mixer backwards. It takes one signal and sends it to any of 4 outputs. Does it exist?

Matt

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
Lehle make good ones

Sent from my iPod

On 29 Aug 2012, at 00:13, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I send my signal through 3 different looping chains, in order to get
> independent layers in my improvisations. I've been using Morley A/B/Y
> and A/B/C switches, because they're small and don't require AC power.
> However, they often make a loud popping noise in the audio signal
> whenever I switch channels.
>
> Does anyone know of an ABC switch that they'd recommend? I'm ideally
> looking for a small footprint - my gear table is running out of space.
> I also need to be able to choose multiple channels, such as A+C.
>
> --
> Matt Davignon
> mattdavignon@gmail.com
> www.ribosomemusic.com
> Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com
>




--
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusic.com
Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com

--Apple-Mail-1-1000451265-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 1 21:11:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4EB4183461; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 21:11:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; bh=MXz3K+5NgT4frDr5BBzEz0k4l82R+Liu6VCxowWadPQ=; b=pU9xwN6z9MSRIlzcqWT8lelebo6/7Pgc9aDmg9XFueIM/2RsnaetkxCCyh55z6QVOg fYi077VhCgsrfcBKYCafGhsurR5LbwhpbtlA7pFZcyGVd0FTOAaDJSCBva3HDZiiVBJC bq6pmxFDpJq63qSe5rM8v/8MlS3elxzDzglHhfN/cs7HMuv0BTm+pUhh95DBpcl+xlrv x6cWoiNU/k/ncFvjS7GbKhPUh9uW4W4O0REzmgQ0VPudB939Tt8UhjGNz2e/KbcOr4lb ugAgi9XjG62zTKd6Ih3ZZodAMQ0Q360vl5kj5Xy7uwsb7OLzgEUxNEv0+YBtonBejdQ8 1Log== Message-Id: From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-1006959827 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Recommend an ABC switch? Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 14:11:03 -0700 References: <94BFF796-4205-4A5D-B22D-FC77CFD27961@googlemail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118099 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 21:11:08 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-1006959827 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sep 1, 2012, at 9:40 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > It takes one signal and sends it to any of 4 outputs. Perhaps http://artproaudio.com/artcessories/mini_mixers/product/splitmix4/ BobC http://soundcloud.com/rpcollier http://rpcollier.bandcamp.com/album/platz http://www.instructables.com/id/Instant-Thumb-Piano%3a-How-to-make-a-set-screw-lamel/ --Apple-Mail-2-1006959827 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sep 1, 2012, = at 9:40 AM, Matt Davignon wrote:

It takes one = signal and sends it to any of 4 = outputs.


Perhaps

http://artproaudio.com/artcessories/mini_mixers/product/splitmix4/


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= --Apple-Mail-2-1006959827-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 00:03:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD23718345C; Sun, 2 Sep 2012 00:03:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 848344.68741.bm@omp1005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1346544231; bh=AR+aQxpGOPWN85awqZIO1xPUikwotDVZB/OkG+R0A0I=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zFohuMdjierTJuzP5fC7yP/7Z+dOah2ned+UtE7UggqRYyenSD4doT+0Ov8HZmdbT5DGQL9oE/1V25JJLTEwBdhdwWz6+esuGyNJyImvmxxeL+qIGomGx+7t+Ja1POAuS04ktfKnw50LwHajJY8HbcQZDRCu3z8RKh7svnWttNk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xPMLXXqJS5Zkw3t839SlgpKOzQJY3P//9Dm3Z8wwG9sWQf9melI6eF5Rqk2tgCfZGWeaQt9pi44QSNAGLrRWmDqGGNcX1AtSMiLOxVsBWT1/jNrp9dGOx+jbqxynTq2V+lhzzY4gusbPThTfGVom2F59tdPV+xJ2UY6eZIP0iuw=; X-YMail-OSG: qk2zdCoVM1nAY0_BbmktyOETNYse9X89Jg9l7imgfnTdy2Y qlctLUtoDNTBGmiHo.wvSBEUuSqTj3qIu5ycb6L04WCDDiPv4w449arnbomU o0OV7kLgnzWE_2INMdgnK__iQs8pXKuFYYxw3Bf3qf_So8w2R3BYQlVBdxFy 8qvsc81sjXxFI0bH5LSiMRV0Gnfx12udgcaSgFVR1SWxONUV0AR4ec8EAg2b MPPU1hWHbft7lj9vX1hd4jv0vvklDBnQC.kAG1tvJAMHxSgaoy73FEtMRJIW dIyHbq5lVKVddAUmm89gxnH.hVtMaWYkGKd7cwNkeDMeJ0RHg63bf36NB_l6 4cPznAPlbRpdT9AWMZB00Uh7dKQlB_4T4Qzn8HEvYR0j_lyFb1GezhIpqaBs A9dJTu.sgg9DtY_GZYoN2wWFKf2KFoR_cCLCcpk9MN8mPQ2h3Y9kdmKtMcBT J89jdGWSATGUOAOD3YqkRnJfeeNBhjXaKmfi0pz3Pj5ry_c9eKhOCSs8phyO TIMIxeLjxgbyyG5q4E_MgTmRskoS4GQs_ShRBrLYiNfNDHRmbyRTDhuUNEEb FHT5nwFoybwo7IQJl8jCyEh_EKl5VVVdFa4nwqiefL3TPOVsfT3c.47HCUoj 2rEAjPrc61CdGMd_Y5nIznpq83DJb4OF1Lf3plXAPQgyMLZdAyJQOcofKWPU esHT_SHctoeo7p94hwqF6SYnDuacha5S9jGguoyLSJbYGQgJF0s0EOgsFsPs uwW46gcJ_6bCNv_W0T6JwY6r.A_yFdq9GUQzHFF25784L2OTNOd.cLnwPZjX LMuCiZ5lu727eqzYYVjqYTordu3kjTsw8Uml5O2NeAyoO0RDoUHi7YdOnBC_ KjHF8YFLhMXd5oF_L8JQOISLFZl3IZbSakex2ONhzAenKPzcA X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 References: <94BFF796-4205-4A5D-B22D-FC77CFD27961@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <1346544231.65565.YahooMailNeo@web162904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 17:03:51 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Reply-To: ditch wrestler Subject: Re: Recommend an ABC switch? To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="902471806-1436683625-1346544231=:65565" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118100 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 00:03:52 +0000 (UTC) --902471806-1436683625-1346544231=:65565 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So, if I took two of these units (or the DOD or the Rolls) and ran one 1->4= and the other 4->1, I could have four signals running parallel?=A0 And the= n put effect or loop pedals into any one of the four signals?=0A=0AThat cou= ld be kinda cool...=0A=0A=0A=0Athe other ted.=0A=0A=A0=0AOr would you sing = somethin' different. Somethin' real. Somethin' *you* felt. Cause I'm tellin= g you right now, that's the kind of song people want to hear. That's the ki= nd of song that truly saves people. It ain't got nothin to do with believin= ' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with believin' in yourself. Sam Phillips= , "Walk the Line"=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: RP Coll= ier =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =0AS= ent: Saturday, September 1, 2012 5:11:03 PM=0ASubject: Re: Recommend an ABC= switch?=0A =0A=0A=0A=0AOn Sep 1, 2012, at 9:40 AM, Matt Davignon wrote:=0A= =0AIt takes one signal and sends it to any of 4 outputs.=0A=0A=0APerhaps=0A= =0Ahttp://artproaudio.com/artcessories/mini_mixers/product/splitmix4/=0A=0A= =0ABobC=0A=0A=0A=0Ahttp://soundcloud.com/rpcollier=0Ahttp://rpcollier.bandc= amp.com/album/platz=0Ahttp://www.instructables.com/id/Instant-Thumb-Piano%3= a-How-to-make-a-set-screw-lamel/ --902471806-1436683625-1346544231=:65565 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
So, if I t= ook two of these units (or the DOD or the Rolls) and ran one 1->4 and th= e other 4->1, I could have four signals running parallel?  And then= put effect or loop pedals into any one of the four signals?

That could be kinda cool...
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<= span>the other ted.
 
Or would you sing= somethin' different. Somethin' real. Somethin' *you* felt. Cause I'm telli= ng you right now, that's the kind of song people want to hear. That's the k= ind of song that truly saves people. It ain't got nothin to do with believi= n' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with believin' in yourself. Sam Phillip= s, "Walk the Line"
From: RP Collier <skeptikalist@g= mail.com>
To: Loope= rs-Delight@loopers-delight.com
S= ent: Saturday, September 1, 2012 5:11:03 PM
Subject: Re: Recommend an ABC switch?

--902471806-1436683625-1346544231=:65565-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 00:10:14 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5955F183463; Sun, 2 Sep 2012 00:10:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=KtKyaAhhevbPjkwVylF9QwkWFj50u1Vp20CePO2S/so=; b=harB9myn5Bszk7MzEyPi66+p1rh46tbnfGeDs7IqKln0KXAylBAf29Se6lJmZLFutI VDqJleEI4esagKxlZGDF87wkKIpISrwwt+PDuzjnxmteUFUths282xdstL7GhOZBLwSa /BEikpTdXKfjq689Gct52qII+MtQamzPXNyXZi7Y/pfcXNsKPI+qeyU64WHFAbAfRG5S NzbHTFdSuv073Z9dVjfhUL060/3I/VyspSs5yrV/7cWXTg6k9OVZ8K8Yy2RkzCBVFfE+ RtQuby6xKA9UvjGbGsWlKTXFc19s6a48dcf2ewhfd/gSzFCKpH1h7hiZU3SzNAcUsnoy uM5A== Subject: Re: Recommend an ABC switch? References: <94BFF796-4205-4A5D-B22D-FC77CFD27961@googlemail.com> From: Simeon Harris Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-1017968312 X-Mailer: iPod Mail (8C148) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 01:14:28 +0100 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 8C148) Resent-Message-ID: <6VOr0D.A.mLC.mPqQQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118101 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 00:10:14 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-1017968312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I used to use a passive headphone splitter. Only cost me a few quid.=20 Sent from my iPod On 1 Sep 2012, at 17:40, Matt Davignon wrote: > Hmmm, I looked up the Lehle one. It looks like an ABC input but only an AB= output.=20 >=20 > How about this, does someone make a mixer that just takes in one channel a= nd sends it to left or right? Basically I want a 4-channel mixer backwards. I= t takes one signal and sends it to any of 4 outputs. Does it exist? >=20 > Matt >=20 > On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > Lehle make good ones >=20 > Sent from my iPod >=20 > On 29 Aug 2012, at 00:13, Matt Davignon wrote: >=20 > > Hi all, > > > > I send my signal through 3 different looping chains, in order to get > > independent layers in my improvisations. I've been using Morley A/B/Y > > and A/B/C switches, because they're small and don't require AC power. > > However, they often make a loud popping noise in the audio signal > > whenever I switch channels. > > > > Does anyone know of an ABC switch that they'd recommend? I'm ideally > > looking for a small footprint - my gear table is running out of space. > > I also need to be able to choose multiple channels, such as A+C. > > > > -- > > Matt Davignon > > mattdavignon@gmail.com > > www.ribosomemusic.com > > Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com > > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com >=20 --Apple-Mail-2-1017968312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
I used to use a passive headphone splitter. Only cost me a few quid. 

Sent from my iPod

On 1 Sep 2012, at 17:40, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com> wrote:

Hmmm, I looked up the Lehle one. It looks like an ABC input but only an AB output.

How about this, does someone make a mixer that just takes in one channel and sends it to left or right? Basically I want a 4-channel mixer backwards. It takes one signal and sends it to any of 4 outputs. Does it exist?

Matt

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
Lehle make good ones

Sent from my iPod

On 29 Aug 2012, at 00:13, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I send my signal through 3 different looping chains, in order to get
> independent layers in my improvisations. I've been using Morley A/B/Y
> and A/B/C switches, because they're small and don't require AC power.
> However, they often make a loud popping noise in the audio signal
> whenever I switch channels.
>
> Does anyone know of an ABC switch that they'd recommend? I'm ideally
> looking for a small footprint - my gear table is running out of space.
> I also need to be able to choose multiple channels, such as A+C.
>
> --
> Matt Davignon
> mattdavignon@gmail.com
> www.ribosomemusic.com
> Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com
>




--
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusic.com
Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com

--Apple-Mail-2-1017968312-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 06:19:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9638F18345C; Sun, 2 Sep 2012 06:19:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: Subject: Variax anyone? Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 08:19:42 +0200 Message-ID: <003e01cd88d2$f0ac8440$d2058cc0$@de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003F_01CD88E3.B4355440" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac2I0vBUGhZ6ARQER9uEKOq2IeP8KA== Content-Language: de Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118102 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 06:19:45 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01CD88E3.B4355440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable what's your Variax experience? does anyone use it for real? does it = sound good with NST tuning? -Michael =20 ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01CD88E3.B4355440 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

what's your Variax experience? does anyone use it for real? = does it sound good with NST tuning? -Michael=

 

------=_NextPart_000_003F_01CD88E3.B4355440-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 15:45:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E526618345C; Sun, 2 Sep 2012 15:45:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=VA1+4To4BdDHM3d4jGU3GwjEr6CeKXqkxfvc2W2Wk0A=; b=XUERUyGUPIumssfkFaBjhVf/fSbhOYC7kP+9lFZSbxv34THaCcPvz7Zpyp7aQ4mWCM NZP8mJQLzqHswbMNnFN8+h1i1twm6cDQ5gGTmiZxKBG6ckwHgArkP56Jv5NNpvoFlq5d uKBwV5yZGBWYwo3uQw7WjH/mD4FCc1shOnEjMEOz4O5ch5ARnWyBLWzf53q0XKMd3KeD wrFBzVpi2+ntNXdScINLVTUHOP4rGW4pvmf9PeDryvYtWa6+lFs8EhHOZPW3qoy5WGB1 Ue7o1I1JykybHLlPH9nnwQ9lWZGe7nD/z4dCEk2O4uhNe3Pfs9a5AuIk2//RnXgr15Eq fJcA== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Terry Riley's A Rainbow in Curved Air From: Matthias Grob In-Reply-To: <20120830230947.6764.41120.levelstar.mail@everest> Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 12:44:55 -0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20120830230947.6764.41120.levelstar.mail@everest> To: Loop List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118103 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 15:45:25 +0000 (UTC) yes, Disney and the Who and so many others have been influenced by Terry = and the minimal music then... it was not called looping and mostly was not when presented, but it grew = out of the tape live looping experiences! On 30 Aug 2012, at 20:09, Tyler wrote: > Hello! A couple days ago, I listened to Terry Riley's A Rainbow in = Curved Air, and=20 > I loved it. The second track had most of the live looping on it; the = first one had that "studio-looping=20 > appeal" to it. The second track sounded like Per Boysen and Bill = Walker at the y2k6=20 > Loopfest 6 years ago. The first track sounded more like Perrey and = Kingsley's Baroque Hoedown and=20 > Walt Disney's Electrical Parade mixed with The Who's Won't Get Fooled = Again. > Tyler Z >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 16:40:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3930918345D; Sun, 2 Sep 2012 16:40:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 356 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sun, 02 Sep 2012 16:40:39 UTC From: Matteo Giudici Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-49--1070706669 Subject: Re: Variax anyone? Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 18:34:40 +0200 In-Reply-To: <003e01cd88d2$f0ac8440$d2058cc0$@de> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <003e01cd88d2$f0ac8440$d2058cc0$@de> Message-Id: <1632EA4F-8944-47B8-A9A4-8BF79F7314BB@alice.it> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <2LL2kB.A.j7.Hw4QQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118104 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 16:40:39 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-49--1070706669 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Michael, i think you mean the varix "electric" (tyler etc.). I've used the acoustic 700 (now for sale) for 4 years in my concerts = and, about NST, I can say that it's very interesting. In one touch you can change the tuning and the sound is credible, = without delay.=20 The first "problem", for me, is the poor dynamic. Matteo Il giorno 02/set/2012, alle ore 08.19, Michael Peters ha scritto: > what's your Variax experience? does anyone use it for real? does it = sound good with NST tuning? -Michael > =20 --Apple-Mail-49--1070706669 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hi Michael,
i think you mean the varix = "electric" (tyler etc.).
I've used the acoustic 700 (now for = sale) for 4 years in my concerts and, about NST, I can say that it's = very interesting.
In one touch you can change the tuning and = the sound is credible, without delay. 
The first = "problem", for me, is the poor = dynamic.
Matteo


Il = giorno 02/set/2012, alle ore 08.19, Michael Peters ha scritto:

what's = your Variax experience? does anyone use = it for real? does it sound good with NST tuning? -Michael
 

= --Apple-Mail-49--1070706669-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 16:57:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B06C18345C; Sun, 2 Sep 2012 16:57:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eCUPW3CXEZ+Nkkp81DNaworYyMLLZ51VEeyXKqoEvTs=; b=VKLdsdFLlOhDjHa1SBaFCRBRcVjhqM87CH1rb11oeUMD5ZuO+693jKzUt2KvGUhOfo XE8LcekweU2+q8w78u8zInAfKabJNoxFX/PxmUH0D0iRP+qAeJs0lWWQb4FfW+f2j89R BZRGXKqHwmejbE1UexcxyTL43Y3/sBjhVhVhC0p2t1zYn+XF6qVCcCQf8bTfPqvq1JFn 0g1pwA6G964jzbbUE7QNvyHEblyRpIqIaGDjW5u/SZIlkvoJfoeWzYLXBtvXNU4uF3Bj R0EguG91K6M1N/TzK7sOpt6Cl5lPibp7e35VLA9jw8ShtTHxUlxRXjj/R3E6MQTtGmBW mVLg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 09:57:05 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Video: Douglignon Electo-Percussion Duo From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9340ee1304f1f04c8baea99 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118105 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 16:57:06 +0000 (UTC) --14dae9340ee1304f1f04c8baea99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAhru7qit7M >From last Thursday at the Luggage Store - I had a duo with Dave Douglas, who processes the sounds of live drums through Max/MSP. -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com --14dae9340ee1304f1f04c8baea99 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.youtube= .com/watch?v=3DcAhru7qit7M

From last Thursday at the Luggage Sto= re - I had a duo with Dave Douglas, who processes the sounds of live drums = through Max/MSP.

--
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusic.com
Podcast! http://ribosomematt.p= odomatic.com

--14dae9340ee1304f1f04c8baea99-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 17:21:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7BD9C18345C; Sun, 2 Sep 2012 17:21:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=MfgG7LUx/TS9cELgym/fLB/+m4+4LM+HtJQiE9AYC5Y=; b=VZSTN25eSxeLmgAppSDCB48YnMQNIGAv8XS2sK+4eDSSunAfX55/H3byOAPiNyHcOQ dtKF9bfS9mprHj0TH3GK+gD7QFa8Uh0ySUTPXcPdFnnbfRVfdR7F+XXSdXE2ccNtbyRV M1oDvMYndRKRL15u17+rAqaf2w9v1fQIQATI+rISyeDCA7Z0ff6XKS6owHwBKFNCwLHO 99KhyT6rmgYIKrrzKnFsfQ4GpRwm3jL+JZe6E1ZmBWn0iL8oGoYY5Yp4TJN/9iZ+Scbz n4fcOht6Vc7U6RaCzzYhPHH0txRTunoFYslhh1YTUPAqn9vT8KDXGzggcrN133tCGnRW xkxA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <94BFF796-4205-4A5D-B22D-FC77CFD27961@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 10:21:22 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Recommend an ABC switch? From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae93409830c6a1704c8bb41bc Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118106 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 17:21:23 +0000 (UTC) --14dae93409830c6a1704c8bb41bc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ooh - lots of good ideas. The Rolls MX41B, DOD AC240 and ART SplitMix4 all sound exactly like what I'm looking for. The site for the Rolls says it only does what I want it to "when all levels are set to maximum". So I will probably try the ART or the DOD first. I was looking at the Voodoo Labs amp switcher too. That also fits the bill, but these other ones look like they may be cheaper and smaller. Thanks everyone! -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com --14dae93409830c6a1704c8bb41bc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ooh - lots of good ideas.

The Rolls MX41B, DOD AC240 and ART SplitM= ix4 all sound exactly like what I'm looking for. The site for the Rolls= says it only does what I want it to "when all levels are set to maxim= um". So I will probably try the ART or the DOD first.

I was looking at the Voodoo Labs amp switcher too. That also fits the b= ill, but these other ones look like they may be cheaper and smaller.
Thanks everyone!

--
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusi= c.com
Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com


=
--14dae93409830c6a1704c8bb41bc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 18:43:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E00618345E; Sun, 2 Sep 2012 18:43:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sun, 02 Sep 2012 18:43:22 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_380c6602-6086-46bf-beb3-f395c68b1051_" X-Originating-IP: [24.21.214.18] From: Jeremy devros To: "loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: RE: Terry Riley's A Rainbow in Curved Air Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 11:38:21 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <20120830230947.6764.41120.levelstar.mail@everest>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Sep 2012 18:38:21.0942 (UTC) FILETIME=[21100960:01CD893A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118107 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 18:43:22 +0000 (UTC) --_380c6602-6086-46bf-beb3-f395c68b1051_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And as most know Terry RILEY was the RILEY in The Who's 'Baba O Riley' --B= aba being the Baba Rum Raisin guru that Townshend was into back then. > Subject: Re: Terry Riley's A Rainbow in Curved Air > From: matilists@gmail.com > Date: Sun=2C 2 Sep 2012 12:44:55 -0300 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > yes=2C Disney and the Who and so many others have been influenced by Terr= y and the minimal music then... > it was not called looping and mostly was not when presented=2C but it gre= w out of the tape live looping experiences! >=20 > On 30 Aug 2012=2C at 20:09=2C Tyler wrote: >=20 > > Hello! A couple days ago=2C I listened to Terry Riley's A Rainbow in Cu= rved Air=2C and=20 > > I loved it. The second track had most of the live looping on it=3B the = first one had that "studio-looping=20 > > appeal" to it. The second track sounded like Per Boysen and Bill Walker= at the y2k6=20 > > Loopfest 6 years ago. The first track sounded more like Perrey and King= sley's Baroque Hoedown and=20 > > Walt Disney's Electrical Parade mixed with The Who's Won't Get Fooled A= gain. > > Tyler Z > >=20 >=20 = --_380c6602-6086-46bf-beb3-f395c68b1051_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
And as most know Terry RILEY was the RILEY in The Who's 'Baba O Riley' = =3B --Baba being the Baba Rum Raisin guru that Townshend was into back then= .

>=3B Subject: Re: Ter= ry Riley's A Rainbow in Curved Air
>=3B From: matilists@gmail.com
&= gt=3B Date: Sun=2C 2 Sep 2012 12:44:55 -0300
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@= loopers-delight.com
>=3B
>=3B yes=2C Disney and the Who and so m= any others have been influenced by Terry and the minimal music then...
&= gt=3B it was not called looping and mostly was not when presented=2C but it= grew out of the tape live looping experiences!
>=3B
>=3B On 30 = Aug 2012=2C at 20:09=2C Tyler wrote:
>=3B
>=3B >=3B Hello! A c= ouple days ago=2C I listened to Terry Riley's A Rainbow in Curved Air=2C an= d
>=3B >=3B I loved it. The second track had most of the live loopi= ng on it=3B the first one had that "studio-looping
>=3B >=3B appeal= " to it. The second track sounded like Per Boysen and Bill Walker at the y2= k6
>=3B >=3B Loopfest 6 years ago. The first track sounded more lik= e Perrey and Kingsley's Baroque Hoedown and
>=3B >=3B Walt Disney's= Electrical Parade mixed with The Who's Won't Get Fooled Again.
>=3B &= gt=3B Tyler Z
>=3B >=3B
>=3B
= --_380c6602-6086-46bf-beb3-f395c68b1051_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 19:27:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5927E18345D; Sun, 2 Sep 2012 19:27:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=8x5fqtOlOhlTk9tJmIw2Ovc20VakL4l5zAG5Agde4P8=; b=ehrT2JXucz+sQJVySPsOEwxvnAxhpC7e59RJei4DRZ9f+VUPL0GYWMNnw9/hfOs/HZ QGieC3dpX50saQyENLw6yo8Joz/u1Qvuq5BoPekcHfRWk+aJTof/FDhplYfrbImQ1iAL Hmkj+wBf/1rIcmoYLZn+hYwGBHGYAvR11FNwYiyi0c1XEstA0ygO1MQR1udfpmqILmdw hUDVq4XxPkxHVBMQ0ah2tPgwJHuPvam6Ak1t88OUeGhwTcyMGeiS3AiNfONfUdLwL+tM taKf4xLlM5lLDmrKT4zk1L66bei9ZVNfItvBhAfasP9BZD6V05RPmgNl6gRBw/B8X6Cm fIGA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <20120830230947.6764.41120.levelstar.mail@everest> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 21:26:44 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: BztNHQmYtLyI0o3bYfAe_lYQkoc Message-ID: Subject: Re: Terry Riley's A Rainbow in Curved Air To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b343faa9e3e1004c8bd02e1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118108 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 19:27:06 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b343faa9e3e1004c8bd02e1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I did NOT know that, and am glad that I do now! You learn something new everyday, so today is covered! M On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Jeremy devros wrote: > And as most know Terry RILEY was the RILEY in The Who's 'Baba O Riley' -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b343faa9e3e1004c8bd02e1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I did NOT know that, and am glad that I do now!
You learn something new= everyday, so today is covered!

M

= On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Jeremy devros <deafrose58@hotmail.com= > wrote:
And as most know Terry RILEY was the RILEY i= n The Who's 'Baba O Riley'



--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.c= om/photos/24478662@N00/

--047d7b343faa9e3e1004c8bd02e1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 19:52:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5286183452; Sun, 2 Sep 2012 19:52:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=n1XOxdSFCHa9945OZtvaQSYb4NRt+ivT+MtzSGpC99s=; b=mvEJ8EyQewxSaZosZ71/KVyfMUXRmu0PAoCkGpIL+bI19H2yBatLMqfcw6lX1gVLfX b2Oh75Qd303I8TkGiGWWRTVLPlVaxdp1WxOzjNX4StBQZQu2EmVz8xm8AEyht473tRfg /rUnV4Sdp8m5V/OYHuK5tBvyXecZ+dc2YkHpZ2/uVDn45oKmipb23DZGjp6kqIf5k+HO EFIs6H1cfgcuASrtZAWwANUt8+2YlBSgSqVf1+Tae7130R4EsCPu9uNcOIuvd6QexmgJ K+hum6HF+g/iZXfFbd2uhscOSPADBUkSq52ZbSbKBOhhJH4BvnnlUSOKJND14SVvNRWg mJaw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 15:52:46 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Recommend an ABC switch? From: r williford To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9340a3984fa3e04c8bd5e98 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118109 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 19:52:47 +0000 (UTC) --14dae9340a3984fa3e04c8bd5e98 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I may recomend for the DIY person http://www.synthrotek.com/store/passive-switch-p-157.html?osCsid=928c9940cfea280682f88d26324d3d83 20$ without case. Reuse the case you have. Says Inputs and outputs are protected from switch pop noise by pull-down resistors. I recently bought a few things from http://www.synthrotek.com/ and made and learned some stuff. i made the nand synth, delay kit, ring mod, optical theremin, audio amp. --14dae9340a3984fa3e04c8bd5e98 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I may recomend for the DIY person
h= ttp://www.synthrotek.com/store/passive-switch-p-157.html?osCsid=3D928c9940c= fea280682f88d26324d3d83
20$ without case. Reuse the case you have.
Says Inputs and outputs are = protected from switch pop noise by pull-down resistors.
I recently bough= t a few things from http://www.synth= rotek.com/ and made and learned some stuff.
i made the nand=A0 synth, delay kit, ring mod, optical theremin, audio amp.=





--14dae9340a3984fa3e04c8bd5e98-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 20:09:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7FB318345E; Sun, 2 Sep 2012 20:09:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_afcc56d7-e1c9-479a-9139-836bb69dc285_" X-Originating-IP: [85.181.225.181] From: Sergio G Sender: To: Subject: RE: Terry Riley's A Rainbow in Curved Air Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 20:09:19 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <20120830230947.6764.41120.levelstar.mail@everest>, , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Sep 2012 20:09:20.0068 (UTC) FILETIME=[D65BF840:01CD8946] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118110 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 20:09:21 +0000 (UTC) --_afcc56d7-e1c9-479a-9139-836bb69dc285_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Holy Shine=2C I too did NOT know that. It is like a cosmic revelation=2C Mo= s=E8 and the tablets of the law. Synaptic connections=2C 1+1...=2C clunk! It is so obvious now.From: mark@markfrancombe.com Date: Sun=2C 2 Sep 2012 21:26:44 +0200 Subject: Re: Terry Riley's A Rainbow in Curved Air To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com I did NOT know that=2C and am glad that I do now!=20 You learn something new everyday=2C so today is covered! M On Sun=2C Sep 2=2C 2012 at 8:38 PM=2C Jeremy devros wrote: And as most know Terry RILEY was the RILEY in The Who's 'Baba O Riley' --=20 Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.comhttp://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ = --_afcc56d7-e1c9-479a-9139-836bb69dc285_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Holy Shine=2C I too did NOT know that. It is like a cosmic revelation=2C Mo= s=E8 and the tablets of the law. =3B
Synaptic connections=2C 1+1...= =2C clunk!
It is so obvious now.
From: mark@markfrancombe.com
Date:= Sun=2C 2 Sep 2012 21:26:44 +0200
Subject: Re: Terry Riley's A Rainbow i= n Curved Air
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

I did NOT kn= ow that=2C and am glad that I do now!
You learn something new everyday= =2C so today is covered!

M

On S= un=2C Sep 2=2C 2012 at 8:38 PM=2C Jeremy devros <=3Bdeafrose58@hotmail.com>=3B wrote:
And as most know Terry RILEY was the RILEY in The Who's '= Baba O Riley'



--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
<= a style=3D"color:rgb(51=2C0=2C51)" href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" tar= get=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.fl= ickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/

= --_afcc56d7-e1c9-479a-9139-836bb69dc285_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 21:08:19 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDBCD183455; Sun, 2 Sep 2012 21:08:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <20120830230947.6764.41120.levelstar.mail@everest>, , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--1054294051 Message-Id: From: Revfever Subject: Re: Terry Riley's A Rainbow in Curved Air (Meher Baba) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 14:08:13 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host5.webserveralpha.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ubergadget.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118111 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 21:08:19 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--1054294051 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Apparently, the "Baba" part was attributed to Indian mystic / guru =20 Meher Baba and the "O'Riley" part is a reference to the influence of =20 Terry Riley. Cheers- Rev.Fever Portlandia http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental1 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental2 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/skult On Sep 2, 2012, at 1:09 PM, Sergio G wrote: > Holy Shine, I too did NOT know that. It is like a cosmic =20 > revelation, Mos=E8 and the tablets of the law. > Synaptic connections, 1+1..., clunk! > It is so obvious now. > From: mark@markfrancombe.com > Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 21:26:44 +0200 > Subject: Re: Terry Riley's A Rainbow in Curved Air > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > I did NOT know that, and am glad that I do now! > You learn something new everyday, so today is covered! > > M > > On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Jeremy devros =20 > wrote: > And as most know Terry RILEY was the RILEY in The Who's 'Baba O Riley' > > > > --=20 > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ > --Apple-Mail-1--1054294051 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Apparently, the "Baba" part was attributed to Indian mystic / guru Meher = Baba and the "O'Riley" part is a reference to the influence of Terry = Riley.

Cheers-
Rev.Fever

On Sep 2, = 2012, at 1:09 PM, Sergio G wrote:

Holy Shine, I too did NOT know that. It is like = a cosmic revelation, Mos=E8 and the tablets of the = law. 
Synaptic connections, 1+1..., clunk!
It is so obvious = now.
From: mark@markfrancombe.com
Date:= Sun, 2 Sep 2012 21:26:44 +0200
Subject: Re: Terry Riley's A Rainbow = in Curved Air
To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com

I did NOT know that, and am glad that I do = now! 
You learn = something new everyday, so today is covered!

M

On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Jeremy = devros <deafrose58@hotmail.com> wrote:
And as most know Terry RILEY was the RILEY in The = Who's 'Baba O Riley'



-- 
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://www.looop.no
twitter = @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/


= --Apple-Mail-1--1054294051-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 3 02:35:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EAB98183461; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 02:35:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <34C6BFF8-D035-498F-8BF8-81A9FB1E0F1D@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-12--1034658598 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Recommend an ABC switch, And cool loop selector alert Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 19:35:28 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118112 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 02:35:36 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-12--1034658598 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In the think outside the box department, this could serve as both a pedal riser and your splitter with better specs and some added clean gain, can be had on E bay or found gathering dust in a used music gear shop near you, did I say stereo if you want it? try to find one with an internal power supply rather than a wall wart. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rane-SM26-Line-Splitter-Mixer-/280954953785?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item416a386039 This is not really what you are looking for but I find this little hardware piece very interesting and something i might consider as a more sophisticated effects loop for getting more control over my stomp box distortion pedals or delays and loopers that are capable of wet only operation, as it can operate both in series and in parallel modes with variable blend. The idea of being able to set my main overdrive to a really fat solo sound, and then preset a blended with direct tone for more definition on chords that I can toggle between is most intriguing. http://www.xotic.us/effects/x_blender/ Bill --Apple-Mail-12--1034658598 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In the think outside the box = department, this could serve as both a pedal riser and your splitter = with better specs and some added clean gain, can be had on E bay or = found gathering dust in a used music gear shop near you, did I say = stereo if you want it? try to find one with an internal power supply = rather than a wall wart.

 This is not really what you are looking for but I find this = little hardware piece very interesting and something i might consider as = a more sophisticated effects loop for getting more control over my stomp = box distortion pedals or delays and loopers that are capable of wet only = operation, as it can operate both in series and in parallel modes with = variable blend.  The idea of being able to set my main overdrive to = a really fat solo sound, and then preset a blended with direct tone for = more definition on chords that I can toggle between is most = intriguing.


Bill
= --Apple-Mail-12--1034658598-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 3 03:43:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7732918345E; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 03:43:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2012 23:37:43 -0400 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Doctor T Birthday Concerts -- Outpost 186, Saturday at 7:30 Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com, MaiyimBaron@JapaneseInterpreter.com Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118113 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 03:43:20 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, Help me celebrate my 70th birthday by attending one of my birthday concerts! I'm having the first one at Outpost 186 in Cambridge on Saturday, with musicians: Michael Bierylo Ken Field Rick Scott John Voigt Kit Demos Neil Leonard Tom Plsek Glynis Lomon Forbes Graham Michael Bloom Jon Proudman Tim Mungenast Suggested donation, $10 617.876.0860 ~ all ages ~ http://www.zeitgeist-outpost.org CHOCOLATE CAKE WILL BE SERVED. -- My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com "My destination is always the same, but I work out a different route to get there" -- Henri Matisse From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 3 05:38:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1C4618345D; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 05:38:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=8rTq1Yh6elZRjN/3BoFbhoD2n2XyQMkhY17EyK7r41A=; b=B+XiUhF7Xq+t0YvnQ6QlGx6QL/k4N8n6SFI7cVmN9jv8W9R1Qg1DaZfhyLxMDpOm6d Y4xC/Xj22O4WSjya7wAv3UjQ1RXYG3fC6/8V8SHVBF+gBVQ/1P9nP/CKzS8m2X/fx2t0 iibIy14mHZLKkcjsRFIwD/pSG4KXCxE2LOowBhmUg0E2bd+x07zN7iqagjDFeAOKS8++ 1qh9177BzqvrDwADksf+8ZssepDRrZ53+AUGMOVZttWkG+E4Kdfl56IDLFZoz40zOEum Lb7ZCuffwEIadjgJLSUu9wn21/1ipOp9Vvtl2zxe1RK8vQNB9JVgv5gOz5Bk/qYZevhT Cfbw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 01:38:04 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Video: Douglignon Electo-Percussion Duo From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9cdc68bb0062504c8c58b1d Resent-Message-ID: <0Gf_pC.A.eHH.9IERQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118114 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 05:38:05 +0000 (UTC) --14dae9cdc68bb0062504c8c58b1d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Matt this was neat, lots of subtle stuff going on. It was good to see you few months back when you were here at the Stone. Best with all. Jim On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Matt Davignon wrot= e: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DcAhru7qit7M > > From last Thursday at the Luggage Store - I had a duo with Dave Douglas, > who processes the sounds of live drums through Max/MSP. > > -- > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com > > --=20 --=20 *jimgoodin.com* - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive minimalism' *The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music* - 'Organically inspired New Music' *From Brooklyn To Glindran *, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from this CD will benefit *JDRF International * *Tips Across the Waters *, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware. --14dae9cdc68bb0062504c8c58b1d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Matt this was neat, lots of subtle stuff going on. =A0It was good to see yo= u few months back when you were here at the Stone.

Best = with all. =A0Jim

On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 1= 2:57 PM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com> wrote:<= br>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DcAhru7qit7M=

From last Thursday at the Luggage Store - I had a duo with Dave Douglas= , who processes the sounds of live drums through Max/MSP.

--
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusic.com
Podcast! http://ribosomematt.p= odomatic.com




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jimgoodin.com - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, rep= etitive minimalism'
=A0
The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music=A0- 'Org= anically inspired New Music'
=A0
From Brooklyn To Gl= indran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter = Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF International

Tips Across the Waters, a= new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.

--14dae9cdc68bb0062504c8c58b1d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 3 12:02:14 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 42AD618345E; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 12:02:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <50448EF3.6000201@soundscapes.us> Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2012 07:05:23 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Top 20 Report for August, 2012. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118115 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 12:02:13 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/top20-08aug.html WDIY 88.1 FM "Galactic Travels" Top 20 for August, 2012. Shows #800 to #804; 2-August-2012 to 30-August-2012 Reported in non-ranked, alphanumeric order. Compiled by Bill Fox The Special Focus for August was The Tangent Project. http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#aug ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL ======================================================================== AeTopus - Between Empire - 12 Ton Amongst Myselves - Ambient, Landscape and Space - none Bruno Sanfilippo - Urbs - Hypnos Caul - Let the Stars Assume the Whole of Night - Hypnos Craig Padilla - The Heart of the Soul - Spotted Peccary Daren Keck - Quiet Hillside - Wayfarer Divine Matrix - Atmospheric Variations - A. D. Music Erik Wollo - Airborne - Projekt Glenn Main - Ripples - A. D. Music Monty Adkins - Four Shibus - Audiobulb Northern Valentine - fin de siecle - Silbermedia Oystein Jorgensen - Imagine - Auraltone Steve Roach - Groove Immersion - Timeroom Steve Roach and Dirk Serries - Low Volume Music - Projekt The Tangent Project - Live - The Gatherings 05.17.08 The Tangent Project - Live on Star's End 02.24.08 The Tangent Project - Live on Star's End 12.06.09 The Tangent Project - Return - none The Tangent Project - Surface - none ['ramp] - return - doombient Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 3 12:14:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA94618345E; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 12:14:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <50449F0E.6000903@soundscapes.us> Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2012 08:14:06 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Thought Radio Playlist for September 1, 2012. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118116 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 12:14:20 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2012/120901.html The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EDT/GMT-4 on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. http://soundscapes.us/afterglow/index.html Show #232 September 1, 2012. Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Twyndyllyngs Time Wave Between Space and Time (electro-music media) VA [Fanger and Nozacuzi Sequences No. 20 Kersten] Klaus Schulze The Wizard of Doz Are You Sequenced? (Revisited) Klaus Schulze Are We Getting Lost? Are You Sequenced? (Revisited) Mark Mosher Arrival I Hear Your Signals (none) Modulator ESP Dark Places * Dark Places (none) Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Paul Adams Nightbird Sleep/The Dreaming Flute(none) Tron Syversen In A Silent Place Sacred Dreams (TK Music) VA [Paul Jensen] Taoist Winds The Gathering (West River) VA [Rudy Perrone] The Prophet The Gathering (West River) Joey Curtin Sara Going To California (Mulberry Tree) Sonic Sanctuary Chonga Sunflower (none) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Genesis The Knife Live (Atlantic) Ligro Stravinsky Dictionary 2 (Moonjune) Mahogany Frog Message From Uncle Senna (Moonjune) Stan: Grey Shirt Mahogany Frog Message From Uncle Senna (Moonjune) Stan: Grey Shirt Echolyn Past Gravity Echolyn (none) Alan Morse Cold Fusion * Four O'clock and Hysteria (InsideOut) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill Fox ======================================================================== Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EDT/GMT-4. Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music. Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Website - http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 3 13:15:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA11118345B; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 13:15:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_dcac66d2-9c40-4ac4-8d29-479621ab20d3_" X-Originating-IP: [217.92.117.212] From: Sergio G Sender: To: Subject: OT arrived!!! Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 13:15:34 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Sep 2012 13:15:34.0572 (UTC) FILETIME=[339FA6C0:01CD89D6] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118117 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 13:15:35 +0000 (UTC) --_dcac66d2-9c40-4ac4-8d29-479621ab20d3_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HEY Delightful brothers! It is here.Arrived. Still packed=2C I am at work in this moment so I cannot= open it but tonight is the night with my new baby=2C and love will flow!No= w Anders=2C you are not alone anymore.I mean that I will ask you lot of thi= ngs=2C ahahah!:) = --_dcac66d2-9c40-4ac4-8d29-479621ab20d3_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
HEY Delightful brothers!

It is here.
Arrived. = Still packed=2C I am at work in this moment so I cannot open it but tonight= is the night with my new baby=2C and love will flow!
Now Anders= =2C you are not alone anymore.
I mean that I will ask you lot of = things=2C ahahah!
:)

= --_dcac66d2-9c40-4ac4-8d29-479621ab20d3_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 3 21:40:34 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8493818345C; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 21:40:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_9d3479fd-f20a-4fa6-8197-f819b0f07f37_" X-Originating-IP: [81.233.147.253] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: OT arrived!!! Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 21:40:32 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Sep 2012 21:40:33.0165 (UTC) FILETIME=[BEFE0BD0:01CD8A1C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118118 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 21:40:34 +0000 (UTC) --_9d3479fd-f20a-4fa6-8197-f819b0f07f37_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable good news... hope you will enjoy it :-) From: simpliflying@gmail.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT arrived!!! Date: Mon=2C 3 Sep 2012 13:15:34 +0000 HEY Delightful brothers! It is here.Arrived. Still packed=2C I am at work in this moment so I cannot= open it but tonight is the night with my new baby=2C and love will flow!No= w Anders=2C you are not alone anymore.I mean that I will ask you lot of thi= ngs=2C ahahah!:) = --_9d3479fd-f20a-4fa6-8197-f819b0f07f37_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
good news... hope you will enjoy it :-)

From: simpliflying@gmail.com
To: = loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: OT arrived!!!
Date: Mon= =2C 3 Sep 2012 13:15:34 +0000

HEY Delightful brothers!

It is here.
Arrived. = Still packed=2C I am at work in this moment so I cannot open it but tonight= is the night with my new baby=2C and love will flow!
Now Anders= =2C you are not alone anymore.
I mean that I will ask you lot of = things=2C ahahah!
:)

=
= --_9d3479fd-f20a-4fa6-8197-f819b0f07f37_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 04:20:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D59F2183463; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 04:20:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 04:20:14 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2012 23:20:02 -0400 To: AE-List@media-motion.tv, IMUG-List@media-motion.tv, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: OT Best Mac keyboard to use in a dark room. Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118119 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 04:20:14 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I like to work in a room with minimal ambient light, Any suggestions on the best Mac keyboard for this environment. Thanks. -- "I rang a silent bell ..." -- Robert Hunter "... cast your dancing spell my way, I promise to go under it" -- Bob Dylan My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 08:11:04 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE4C418345D; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 08:11:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1234298873==" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20120904081050.23377.98008.levelstar.mail@everest> Sender: Tyler Reply-to: Tyler From: Tyler Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 04:10:51 -0400 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Subject: Would you say shame on the guy that wrote this article? Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118120 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 08:11:03 +0000 (UTC) Unable to read this email, please upgrage your mail client --===============1234298873== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How=20many=20of=20you=20are=20and=20aren't=20offended=20by=20this?=20So,=20= these=20people=20from=20Wipipedia=20(read=20this=20carefully;=20I'm=20talki= ng=20 about=20Wipipedia,=20NOT=20Wikipedia)=20have=20this=20definition=20for=20th= e=20word=20"loop."=20Their=20definition=20does=20have=20to=20do=20with=20 repetition,=20but=20in=20a=20sexual=20way.=20Looper's=20Delight=20is=20a=20= discussion=20group=20for=20the=20looping=20scene,=20this=20 Wipi=20thing=20is=20a=20discussion=20group=20for=20the=20sexual=20scene,=20= including=20fetish=20clubs=20and=20all=20that=20crazy=20 stuff.=20Here=20is=20how=20they=20made=20"loop"=20a=20sex=20term. http://londonfetishscene.com/wipi/index.php/Loop Tyler=20Z --===============1234298873==-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 08:45:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C791183460; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 08:45:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=gNzdCvnSQBMfcoix4XkNk7Y6oRRnrLhJOm4vVIOQCJs=; b=eZLwZrGtm0meOJ2WDzavtQjdhmgiXNgr6u3TLh35iTdwDvzIRt2VpYQcUHwUEVQi0n msh6pI1qU3kI7M4SG7v4kxz3xYE2/nELQ8XVuSS/Xs+5kqhEgMOgqxNvmhOAzfFsYvM6 7aEL5Oa4vYJx7wAD+BpSTmITryOV1iDXpNKKzPtviNgXnns2TA4LeHTF4ahdc9xhJ/5u BrALZhUAUheiGS1SZOGAZs08HoQlBF7d6jx/xBPcVb4FxOuYk5f3WzRgxaDJUDqjguDx ypBJkLp2NeEgcF6wk+sAdZRHpGbsULQIiVWubYnAk/yXgsBaOqCswx+GPL6vQg5c8KIF w2wA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20120904081050.23377.98008.levelstar.mail@everest> References: <20120904081050.23377.98008.levelstar.mail@everest> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 10:45:41 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Would you say shame on the guy that wrote this article? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118121 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 08:45:43 +0000 (UTC) Offended - why? I don't see any connection between music that integrate loops and looping and the fact that someone decides to call a looped stripe of pornographic film "a loop". But thanks for mentioning this funny Off-Topic coincidence! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Tyler wrote: > How many of you are and aren't offended by this? So, these people from Wipipedia (read this carefully; I'm talking > about Wipipedia, NOT Wikipedia) have this definition for the word "loop." Their definition does have to do with > repetition, but in a sexual way. Looper's Delight is a discussion group for the looping scene, this > Wipi thing is a discussion group for the sexual scene, including fetish clubs and all that crazy > stuff. Here is how they made "loop" a sex term. > http://londonfetishscene.com/wipi/index.php/Loop > Tyler Z > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 09:16:19 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6341A18345E; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 09:16:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_d219c7b7-9107-454f-923e-56b426b6f353_" X-Originating-IP: [86.165.215.189] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: Would you say shame on the guy that wrote this article? Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 09:16:16 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <20120904081050.23377.98008.levelstar.mail@everest>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Sep 2012 09:16:17.0340 (UTC) FILETIME=[F075A7C0:01CD8A7D] Resent-Message-ID: <3B__EB.A.JjD.jbcRQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118122 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 09:16:19 +0000 (UTC) --_d219c7b7-9107-454f-923e-56b426b6f353_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Doesn't bother me. What people choose to do with their own and each others = bodies is entirely their business.Why does it bother you? Peace g Gareth Whittock=2C sound artist: garethwhittock.co.uk > Date: Tue=2C 4 Sep 2012 10:45:41 +0200 > Subject: Re: Would you say shame on the guy that wrote this article? > From: perboysen@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Offended - why? I don't see any connection between music that > integrate loops and looping and the fact that someone decides to call > a looped stripe of pornographic film "a loop". But thanks for > mentioning this funny Off-Topic coincidence! >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >=20 >=20 > On Tue=2C Sep 4=2C 2012 at 10:10 AM=2C Tyler = wrote: > > How many of you are and aren't offended by this? So=2C these people fro= m Wipipedia (read this carefully=3B I'm talking > > about Wipipedia=2C NOT Wikipedia) have this definition for the word "lo= op." Their definition does have to do with > > repetition=2C but in a sexual way. Looper's Delight is a discussion gro= up for the looping scene=2C this > > Wipi thing is a discussion group for the sexual scene=2C including feti= sh clubs and all that crazy > > stuff. Here is how they made "loop" a sex term. > > http://londonfetishscene.com/wipi/index.php/Loop > > Tyler Z > > >=20 = --_d219c7b7-9107-454f-923e-56b426b6f353_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Doesn't bother me. What people choose to do with their own and each others = bodies is entirely their business.
Why does it bother you?
Peace

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>=3B= Offended - why? I don't see any connection between music that
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= --_d219c7b7-9107-454f-923e-56b426b6f353_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 09:51:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD63118345A; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 09:51:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1234298873==" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20120904095105.26391.98008.levelstar.mail@everest> Sender: Tyler Reply-to: Tyler From: Tyler Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 05:51:05 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Subject: RE: Would you say shame on the guy that wrote this article? Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118123 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 09:51:13 +0000 (UTC) Unable to read this email, please upgrage your mail client --===============1234298873== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It=20doesn't.=20I=20just=20want=20to=20make=20sure=20they're=20not=20defami= ng=20the=20concept=20of=20looped=20audio=20and=20video. Tyler=20Z On=20Tue,=204=20Sep=202012=2009:16:16=20+0000,=20Gareth=20Whittock=20wrote: >Doesn't=20bother=20me.=20What=20people=20choose=20to=20do=20with=20their= =20own=20and=20each=20others=20 >bodies=20is=20entirely=20their=20business. >Why=20does=20it=20bother=20you? >Peace >g >Gareth=20Whittock,=20sound=20artist:=20garethwhittock.co.uk >>Date:=20Tue,=204=20Sep=202012=2010:45:41=20+0200 >>Subject:=20Re:=20Would=20you=20say=20shame=20on=20the=20guy=20that=20wrot= e=20this=20article? >>From:=20perboysen@gmail.com >>To:=20Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>Offended=20-=20why?=20I=20don't=20see=20any=20connection=20between=20musi= c=20that >>integrate=20loops=20and=20looping=20and=20the=20fact=20that=20someone=20d= ecides=20to=20call >>a=20looped=20stripe=20of=20pornographic=20film=20"a=20loop".=20But=20than= ks=20for >>mentioning=20this=20funny=20Off-Topic=20=20coincidence! >>Greetings=20from=20Sweden >>Per=20Boysen >>www.perboysen.com >>http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >>On=20Tue,=20Sep=204,=202012=20at=2010:10=20AM,=20Tyler=20=20wrote: >>>How=20many=20of=20you=20are=20and=20aren't=20offended=20by=20this?=20So,= =20these=20people=20from=20 >>>Wipipedia=20(read=20this=20carefully;=20I'm=20talking >>>about=20Wipipedia,=20NOT=20Wikipedia)=20have=20this=20definition=20for= =20the=20word=20"loop."=20Their=20 >>>definition=20does=20have=20to=20do=20with >>>repetition,=20but=20in=20a=20sexual=20way.=20Looper's=20Delight=20is=20a= =20discussion=20group=20for=20the=20 >>>looping=20scene,=20this >>>Wipi=20thing=20is=20a=20discussion=20group=20for=20the=20sexual=20scene,= =20including=20fetish=20clubs=20 >>>and=20all=20that=20crazy >>>stuff.=20Here=20is=20how=20they=20made=20"loop"=20a=20sex=20term. >>>http://londonfetishscene.com/wipi/index.php/Loop >>>Tyler=20Z --===============1234298873==-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 10:05:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 678AC183460; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 10:05:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=uGFcmUkZYqsJhMnPQeg2OTdpCiNuEPoUG4wCFFV7AKE=; b=REuAQ4f74lP/6/USFzgz+H/+oBe2T0RVokp/RETLdUUhkP7Mg8xXBMU8GdQJ9nM86Z ZXSdBT7hlOfB3SLhlQqidyUxjueaO2fU4OoYLniIW6gQxSWs0OFcsPvQL/yZsc2rFUWO QnQONmH1kbbZKBdUKP272v62h92x4Cyggj4o++VuV6AEmIOnHtk/Krt/P+HDXm2j6WqI gKLT3FNJQN1AQqMM3i2RMZu2905chLHx4dXCp6lzm6EYULe1mw3pxB7MaMaM6WRCVp3D 7qV74kw2XxmihzR90ekGnW5dL/o9r/NRWpaNcLKo5yAkvyNet5TQ45n9X2YgiY4yeVDV 554w== From: philip Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_072AA23A-979D-4138-AB63-48163B11738D" Subject: Re: Would you say shame on the guy that wrote this article? Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 19:04:42 +0900 In-Reply-To: <20120904095105.26391.98008.levelstar.mail@everest> To: loopers delight delight References: <20120904095105.26391.98008.levelstar.mail@everest> Message-Id: <2D925B22-6E57-4608-8ABB-106ED415F410@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118124 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 10:05:21 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_072AA23A-979D-4138-AB63-48163B11738D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Here's the definition of LOOP from the Free Online Dictionary. The = definition given in number 7 suggests they they have as much right to = the word as we do. Considering that it likely originated in Middle = English or Irish we probably will have to share it with a lot of other = special interest groups including electricians, pilots, medical = professionals and the horny people over at Wipi.=20 loop 1 (lp) n. 1. a. A length of line, thread, ribbon, or other thin material that is = curved or doubled over making an opening. b. The opening formed by such a doubled line. 2. Something having a shape, order, or path of motion that is circular = or curved over on itself. 3. Electricity A closed circuit. 4. Computer Science A sequence of instructions that repeats either a = specified number of times or until a particular condition is met. 5. A type of loop-shaped intrauterine device. 6. A flight maneuver in which an aircraft flies a circular path in a = vertical plane with the lateral axis of the aircraft remaining = horizontal. 7. A segment of film or magnetic tape whose ends are joined, making a = strip that can be continuously replayed. 8. Sports See league1. v. looped, loop=B7ing, loops v.tr. 1. To form into a loop. 2. To fasten, join, or encircle with loops or a loop. 3. To fly (an aircraft) in a loop. 4. To move in a loop or an arc. 5. Electricity To join (conductors) so as to complete a circuit. 6. To add or substitute (words) in a film by altering the sound track. v.intr. 1. To form a loop. 2. To move in a loop: "The couple looped constantly around the = international social circuit" (Walter Isaacson). 3. To make a loop in an aircraft. Idioms: in the loop Part of a group that is kept up-to-date with information about = something: knew about the merger because she's in the loop. knock/throw for a loop Slang To surprise tremendously; astonish. out of the loop Not part of a group that is kept up-to-date with information about = something. --Apple-Mail=_072AA23A-979D-4138-AB63-48163B11738D Content-Type: multipart/related; type="text/html"; boundary="Apple-Mail=_8AA29DF1-9288-4610-819C-C51DA8C6B132" --Apple-Mail=_8AA29DF1-9288-4610-819C-C51DA8C6B132 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 p)
n.
1.
a. = ;A length of line, thread, ribbon, or other thin material that is curved = or doubled over making an opening.
b. The opening formed by such = a doubled line.
2. Something having a shape, order, or path of = motion that is circular or curved over on = itself.
3. Electricity A closed = circuit.
4. Computer Science A sequence of instructions = that repeats either a specified number of times or until a particular = condition is met.
5. A type of loop-shaped intrauterine = device.
6. A flight maneuver in which an aircraft flies a = circular path in a vertical plane with the lateral axis of the aircraft = remaining horizontal.
7. A segment of film or magnetic tape = whose ends are joined, making a strip that can be continuously = replayed.
8. Sports See league1.
v. looped, = ;loop=B7ing, loops
v.tr.
1. To form into a = loop.
2. To fasten, join, or encircle with loops or a = loop.
3. To fly (an aircraft) in a loop.
4. To move in a = loop or an arc.
5. Electricity To join (conductors) so as = to complete a circuit.
6. To add or substitute (words) in a film = by altering the sound track.
v.intr.
1. To form a = loop.
2. To move in a loop: "The couple looped constantly = around the international social circuit" (Walter = Isaacson).
3. To make a loop in an aircraft.
Idioms:
in = the loop
Part of a group that is kept up-to-date with information = about something: knew about the merger because she's in the = loop.
knock/throw for a loop
Slang To surprise = tremendously; astonish.
out of the loop
Not part of a group that = is kept up-to-date with information about = something.


= --Apple-Mail=_8AA29DF1-9288-4610-819C-C51DA8C6B132 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename=oomacr.gif Content-Type: image/gif; name="oomacr.gif" Content-Id: R0lGODlhDQAOAPcAAP///wAAAE0AdZ/3vwyCZoFWDlAAnEj3v7CTAQBMAE0AAABNAA8AAAA8DlAA OOpvAFcBAACU828AqIj7v6iB97//////hOpvAChJ978AAAAAVg5QAJxI978BAAAAPA5QALvxQwBk EVAAePNvAGYAAAA8DlAAAAQAAFgPUAABAAAAZBFQAEwAAAAABAAAAABAAGQRUAAAAAAAAAAAAAEA AABcEFAABAEAAAAAAAAAAAAAWA9QAPjqbwBsAAgADwAWAAAAAAA8DlAAYHNAANQCSABPcGVuAASI 3acF////AAAALiABWwAA/wABAP///wAke0U6XGFoZDNodG1cR0lGAG9vbWFjci5naWYA97/TGfO/ AHBvAAIIAACM628AIAAAALIgAAAqJfO/AHBvAAMAAggAAAIIAgBvAHZ7LFMCCCYCNt1NT6cFAABE AQIApwWGe5ikBAAhAgAAAAA23ZJ7ZQf0ATbdAAACCAAApHtvHgIIAghEAacF1gUAAAAAtnvPHEcE AADOP7cX5xYAAOcWOI1oR7cX1os+N88XAQDeFCAAAgCYBG8AAAD7V7cXXwEEjAFEKOgCAJzfAgDn FrTnAgCYBG8AWHwgAI8B+HsMKve/AggAAAAAAABeARQAPIwtJF8XAAAAAAAAFAQgAJzfAgDnFoSM RTpcYWhkM2h0bVxHSUZcb29tYWNyLmdpZgDMZycJXwEvEgAAXwEAAAAAAAAUBCAAXnwXD7cXAAAy ADQAtOcCABwPrHwoAI8BXimYBZ0FuHwgAI8BDCr3vzIANAACAA/FAAAGABgsBxeGBc8X4OxvAMzv bwCIJve/1OxvALDwDAA4DlAAHAEAANGJ978AAE0AVA9QALDwDAAAAAAADABNAAAATQA4DlAAQAAA AAAAAADQBQAAAQUAAPzsbwCBi/e/AABNAJiL978AAE0AQQAAAEEAAABmAAAAAAAAAAEAAAAg7W8A yZr3vwAATQAGm/e/DIJmgWYAAABmAAAAAAQAAGYAAAAFhkMAAAQAACH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAANAA4A QAg1AAEIHEhwYACCBw8aFBhAoUGHBSMCaEixokWEEzFOhLhRosePBRU6FJlxIcSEDBeWBMmSYEAA Ow== --Apple-Mail=_8AA29DF1-9288-4610-819C-C51DA8C6B132-- --Apple-Mail=_072AA23A-979D-4138-AB63-48163B11738D-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 14:09:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B399318345C; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 14:09:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_30bb2de8-bfc2-4784-b5da-498636df5ed5_" X-Originating-IP: [92.231.13.206] From: Sergio G Sender: To: Subject: Do you think these controllers can be enough for livelooping with ableton? Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 14:09:03 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Sep 2012 14:09:04.0476 (UTC) FILETIME=[D749E1C0:01CD8AA6] Resent-Message-ID: <9t9eID.A.P7F.BugRQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118125 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 14:09:05 +0000 (UTC) --_30bb2de8-bfc2-4784-b5da-498636df5ed5_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello! As some of you know=2C I plan to do livelooping with a combination of Octat= rack and Ableton.For Ableton I have a launchpad which I bought used before = I knew about the APC40. And a friend of me gave me for few money a Faderfox= LV2. Now I wonder if I should try to get the APC40 and eventually sell the rest= =2C or if I should rather try to complement the launchpad/LV2 with other th= ings.I am 90% sure to buy an akai mpk25 because I need a midi keyboard=2C b= oth for ableton synths and for my waldorf blofeld.And the mpk has got knobs= and velocity sensitive pads=2C so together with the launchpad/LV2 it shoul= d cover most of what the APC does=2C right? I do not play guitar so my hands are free=2C this is why I did not think ab= out a foot controller yet=2C but part of my setup will be percussions=2C an= d later a theremin=2C and I am already trying to figure out how can I organ= ize all these things close enough to the controllers and to the OT=2C so to= be able to press the button to start recording a loop and then immediately= start playing the instrument without having to jump 5 meters like a kung f= u monk.So I was trying to understand if it was better to buy a foot control= ler like the beringer for example=2C or the yamaha (I find it for very chea= p. Were the latency problems solved finally? I have read some negative comm= ents of Andy about that)=2C and place it near to the theremin and to the pe= rcussions=2C or if I should buy a couple of individual midi footswitch one = near the theremin and one near to the percussions.My audio interface has go= t midi in and midi out.I prefer to start thinking about it now. And you are= the most expert live loopers so=2C nobody can tell me that better than you= . :) Ser = --_30bb2de8-bfc2-4784-b5da-498636df5ed5_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello!

As some of you know=2C I plan to do livelooping w= ith a combination of Octatrack and Ableton.
For Ableton =3BI have a launchpad which I bought used be= fore I knew about the APC40. And a friend of me gave me for few money a Fad= erfox LV2.

=
Now I wonder if I should try to get the APC40 and eventually sel= l the rest=2C or if I should rather try to complement the launchpad/LV2 wit= h other things.
I am 90% sure to buy an akai mpk25 because I need= a midi keyboard=2C both for ableton synths and for my waldorf blofeld.
And the mpk has got knobs and velocity sensitive pads=2C so together= with the launchpad/LV2 it should cover most of what the APC does=2C right?=

I do not play guitar so my hands are free=2C this= is why I did not think about a foot controller yet=2C but part of my setup= will be percussions=2C and later a theremin=2C and I am already trying to = figure out how can I organize all these things close enough to the controll= ers and to the OT=2C so to be able to press the button to start recording a= loop and then immediately start playing the instrument without having to j= ump 5 meters like a kung fu monk.
So I was trying to understand if it was better to buy a foot controll= er like the beringer for example=2C or the yamaha (I find it for very cheap= . Were the latency problems solved finally? I have read some negative comme= nts of Andy about that)=2C and place it near to the theremin and to the per= cussions=2C or if I should buy a couple of individual midi footswitch one n= ear the theremin and one near to the percussions.
My audio interface has got midi in and midi out= .
I prefer to start thinking about it now. And you are the= most expert live loopers so=2C nobody can tell me that better than you.

:)

Ser
= --_30bb2de8-bfc2-4784-b5da-498636df5ed5_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 14:40:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 03888183463; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 14:40:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=U1ITQKpznJvrKL4ypyRjr5bDxnX8l7GqLvuwY3U+Y0I=; b=fm7SmATigY1nDv0W7VtCI8+8vsKF5Qo09IzrWWTw11xXJMo40E9gWZfVEAQX0JiyXO M6VKpJO4CxIJQhpALUenLUWLVh79L8HDjyQMQzhySyajIQ3LuMQtESCZJlAnSTVwFz5J Sxi5ucPaV6w6r5+szQNMS+d7HryknHuEwGa+V2ilFGK5t1sklkQ9gkAdNLUGB9Y/FNnr YNP+LZjp5V7mOXXSmRBZUkMbKGO/EHX+I77iZAmIgcnm9kTORSVOZD8FHMR6knMERcGB 2b5WrkqqBAGPLh7112JYOa6X/kDnHWRM8MAnuk3j16xnc2hFmJltyK22prVwS5uMRKin PO3w== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 16:40:06 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Do you think these controllers can be enough for livelooping with ableton? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118126 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 14:40:07 +0000 (UTC) Hi Sergio, To find an accurate answer to your questions regarding controller gear you would need to first sit down and make a list of all processing actions you plan to do when performing. When that is done you may see right away if the LV2 will be sufficient, and if not, how many and what type of control options you really need. Latency can not be "solved". It takes time for information to travel over a distance. Maybe you wondered about the MIDI latency specifically in the Behringer FCB1010? It's by no ways as fast as a MIDI keyboard but personally I have never had an issue with the Behringer, as I have used it mostly for commands that are quantized at the receiving end anyway. If you plan to use it for non-quantized processing that is timing sensitive you can get the figues from Andy - he did some measuring of MIDI latency a while back. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Sergio G wrote: > Hello! > > As some of you know, I plan to do livelooping with a combination of > Octatrack and Ableton. > For Ableton I have a launchpad which I bought used before I knew about the > APC40. And a friend of me gave me for few money a Faderfox LV2. > > Now I wonder if I should try to get the APC40 and eventually sell the rest, > or if I should rather try to complement the launchpad/LV2 with other things. > I am 90% sure to buy an akai mpk25 because I need a midi keyboard, both for > ableton synths and for my waldorf blofeld. > And the mpk has got knobs and velocity sensitive pads, so together with the > launchpad/LV2 it should cover most of what the APC does, right? > > I do not play guitar so my hands are free, this is why I did not think about > a foot controller yet, but part of my setup will be percussions, and later a > theremin, and I am already trying to figure out how can I organize all these > things close enough to the controllers and to the OT, so to be able to press > the button to start recording a loop and then immediately start playing the > instrument without having to jump 5 meters like a kung fu monk. > So I was trying to understand if it was better to buy a foot controller like > the beringer for example, or the yamaha (I find it for very cheap. Were the > latency problems solved finally? I have read some negative comments of Andy > about that), and place it near to the theremin and to the percussions, or if > I should buy a couple of individual midi footswitch one near the theremin > and one near to the percussions. > My audio interface has got midi in and midi out. > I prefer to start thinking about it now. And you are the most expert live > loopers so, nobody can tell me that better than you. > > :) > > Ser From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 16:14:11 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C621183460; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 16:14:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 616120.36864.bm@omp1013.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1346775249; bh=7tp1hN5XC6zmn2bkqEDDJtlf8gwH4WgXvX1+m1td/NI=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer; b=6Jl1liTFaYIDvz2Cayj4me3imKPDaS/CDc6VLbt8fxWHpitOovRt7qWkxSNAZ5o/SYahFM9tFWHLJ06cyPSM+SKXUDNGJrqXYAGH0lteOF12hXxDpQU/4bUV4R0Qho/bJGxvxfPQGhjxebd6VsyRHcYqrFbtDmRrayZRBADvicQ= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: WjGrGRQVM1nbep..p8ufDAbAtg_CFb.D9IwRzANTAeJIPnX H.RZVbCVLcC6yp_zXzqRKkP2ffn4EoAyZ9M0JQ2uLGzlNljP0ZQ291ASZG_Z NLFJanEhXfgUoJ6SZ4awcIeQ_Ht2EBsv8U_.bWA5ziXNdC5ZNG7VZpBAKKq_ 62v2ffeSglwtQfBEGy.nvXa9K2Xs3ItwIABg3lZzDfb.AYVUzqZI8qWHc3Rg sbk59tA2zoUvHtTw5n4KFzfLrMVH4HyZPGehYG5UGlaPh3mb.FD7zQx0QQP7 a4W1iJph1BPwepZxktM7FvB9TyLDap2tPcqzNQmb6m7exqAcpUJ.ArIxBVTc p2XegxAk1xniW86ti0F_gzTM0Yn6bwRe7.9IKD.07V3hP7tmqwqDRMdKOTMM VXZm5KHwvwJQIu02gnr1W6wIbn5YKiYBnIfZd.thkoJt.jHg7c_ouxzbo9jN JwrJs4xLJcGwYSgN6HC0Xu00QsW0.IQ_1m05VAdm10u4oxabqvB3pPVugYIs SPLpideo- X-Yahoo-SMTP: ILs26NSswBDuK82.iJb8TCN7cubm0SmUbZYidhSBIQ-- Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Subject: Re: Would you say shame on the guy that wrote this article? From: Laurie Amat In-Reply-To: <20120904081050.23377.98008.levelstar.mail@everest> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 09:14:11 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20120904081050.23377.98008.levelstar.mail@everest> To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118127 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 16:14:11 +0000 (UTC) Well, having seen porn loops (and gotten a real kick out of them!), I = would never mistake one reference for the other.=20 Offended? Not in the least. If someone thinks what I'm doing with music = is sexy or gritty, all the better! Sex, Sex, Sex!=20 On Sep 4, 2012, at 1:10 AM, Tyler wrote: > How many of you are and aren't offended by this? So, these people from = Wipipedia (read this carefully; I'm talking=20 > about Wipipedia, NOT Wikipedia) have this definition for the word = "loop." Their definition does have to do with=20 > repetition, but in a sexual way. Looper's Delight is a discussion = group for the looping scene, this=20 > Wipi thing is a discussion group for the sexual scene, including = fetish clubs and all that crazy=20 > stuff. Here is how they made "loop" a sex term. > http://londonfetishscene.com/wipi/index.php/Loop > Tyler Z >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 16:35:26 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8017183460; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 16:35:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 487 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 16:35:26 UTC Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 16:27:19 +0000 (UTC) From: Christophe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <971175988.1465916.1346776039420.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Would you say shame on the guy that wrote this article? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1465913_1720263998.1346776039409" X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:146.243.4.157] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118128 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 16:35:26 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_1465913_1720263998.1346776039409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What do you wear in the studio? ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurie Amat" To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2012 12:14:11 PM Subject: Re: Would you say shame on the guy that wrote this article? Well, having seen porn loops (and gotten a real kick out of them!), I would never mistake one reference for the other. Offended? Not in the least. If someone thinks what I'm doing with music is sexy or gritty, all the better! Sex, Sex, Sex! On Sep 4, 2012, at 1:10 AM, Tyler wrote: > How many of you are and aren't offended by this? So, these people from Wipipedia (read this carefully; I'm talking > about Wipipedia, NOT Wikipedia) have this definition for the word "loop." Their definition does have to do with > repetition, but in a sexual way. Looper's Delight is a discussion group for the looping scene, this > Wipi thing is a discussion group for the sexual scene, including fetish clubs and all that crazy > stuff. Here is how they made "loop" a sex term. > http://londonfetishscene.com/wipi/index.php/Loop > Tyler Z > ------=_Part_1465913_1720263998.1346776039409 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>What do y= ou wear in the studio? ;-)

From: "Laurie Ama= t" <voicesound@att.net>
To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight= .com
Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2012 12:14:11 PM
Subject: = Re: Would you say shame on the guy that wrote this article?

Well= , having seen porn loops (and gotten a real kick out of them!), I would nev= er mistake one reference for the other.

Offended? Not in the least.= If someone thinks what I'm doing with music is sexy or gritty, all the bet= ter! Sex, Sex, Sex!


On Sep 4, 2012, at 1:10 AM, Tyler wrote:
> How many of you are and aren't offended by this? So, these people= from Wipipedia (read this carefully; I'm talking
> about Wipipedia,= NOT Wikipedia) have this definition for the word "loop." Their definition = does have to do with
> repetition, but in a sexual way. Looper's Del= ight is a discussion group for the looping scene, this
> Wipi thing = is a discussion group for the sexual scene, including fetish clubs and all = that crazy
> stuff. Here is how they made "loop" a sex term.
>= http://londonfetishscene.com/wipi/index.php/Loop
> Tyler Z
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------=_Part_1465913_1720263998.1346776039409-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 16:36:34 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 38FEE183461; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 16:36:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 24321 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 16:36:33 UTC Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1234298873==" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20120904163623.28307.98008.levelstar.mail@everest> Sender: Tyler Reply-to: Tyler From: Tyler Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 12:36:23 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Subject: Re: Would you say shame on the guy that wrote this article? Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118129 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 16:36:34 +0000 (UTC) Unable to read this email, please upgrage your mail client --===============1234298873== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You=20Monty=20Python=20fan=20you=20saying=20sex=20three=20times=20in=20a=20= row=20which=20Monty=20Python=20invented=20lol Tyler=20Z On=20Tue,=204=20Sep=202012=2009:14:11=20-0700,=20Laurie=20Amat=20wrote: >Well,=20having=20seen=20porn=20loops=20(and=20gotten=20a=20real=20kick=20o= ut=20of=20them!),=20I=20would=20 >never=20mistake=20one=20reference=20for=20the=20other.=20 > >Offended?=20Not=20in=20the=20least.=20If=20someone=20thinks=20what=20I'm= =20doing=20with=20music=20is=20sexy=20 >or=20gritty,=20all=20the=20better!=20Sex,=20Sex,=20Sex!=20 > > >On=20Sep=204,=202012,=20at=201:10=20AM,=20Tyler=20wrote: > >>How=20many=20of=20you=20are=20and=20aren't=20offended=20by=20this?=20So,= =20these=20people=20from=20 >>Wipipedia=20(read=20this=20carefully;=20I'm=20talking=20 >>about=20Wipipedia,=20NOT=20Wikipedia)=20have=20this=20definition=20for=20= the=20word=20"loop."=20Their=20 >>definition=20does=20have=20to=20do=20with=20 >>repetition,=20but=20in=20a=20sexual=20way.=20Looper's=20Delight=20is=20a= =20discussion=20group=20for=20the=20 >>looping=20scene,=20this=20 >>Wipi=20thing=20is=20a=20discussion=20group=20for=20the=20sexual=20scene,= =20including=20fetish=20clubs=20 >>and=20all=20that=20crazy=20 >>stuff.=20Here=20is=20how=20they=20made=20"loop"=20a=20sex=20term. >>http://londonfetishscene.com/wipi/index.php/Loop >>Tyler=20Z >> --===============1234298873==-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 16:39:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B000183452; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 16:39:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 881418.63552.bm@omp1008.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1346776773; bh=f6wiOET5JcvxpvamjkHlyEINuZqa5sQ1PQPEyVkqLY0=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:To:References:Message-Id:X-Mailer; b=VQqvsPh2YSafwukEQ8G9bUQq2DUfKwryTpQ0U1xd4wYGDjVCWBVPV38pAsx++/lui7WEmVOZZvfbvCvLvmC8hWhxLQfyn0DliaKZWehDM5oiI45SfsI8vhO2UTZxBIraLm05YGERsZ1ikgond4EZclcpeQ4KgDTQLbFO+bXaV2U= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: nRkb10YVM1lFTdJ7R5YY7Ig4oA7hVGKq6wreL2DKXwbhyG. gE5cGFASEh6mMNlxQ4XhqjGC8uwxvP1dX6lnGzu80Tuy55nP0kDom2.gMuKu liJCvv58wbb7s1i3y6ozdXCFWGiTGMmPjxOE8UT7Uu7ymdBIS9YuU38cGQ.p wFWjDCOqhVIiHMk2X_aJdIPG6yXqJjXNYfpkpzW7GGyie2yrnyoYVOsgCKap aLVzoKueWnYJw5OQNr02UhtD8Oj.d4V7UhN.ARn1Fc5JvIZjHzg6YS5nKeUx 1T3449.sjrudN30Gd6mQkgeO5DCm8ntfX4I2c7zLmwrL5wYF8tQDl.WzobAn iPh5H.o_VUcE5qYXqLMdrUaYPq2vA8DGJPFcbiRHkRTtC5DD4djGgoxE_bHM AXT8ykbitpMEuEviWi3GP0pwGSxNimo.cbqkuNLrZomK2c9T97LW7uNb8OlX tpWNSUx7cg.vD844YMreyfq7lGypuo3K69l9UShYOJxM8BjQNDkSlureFEfi K9gTdOCyFHeAl3ajI3A7Y6QjlWJmlLD8hCxJb8VhBWw-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: ILs26NSswBDuK82.iJb8TCN7cubm0SmUbZYidhSBIQ-- From: Laurie Amat Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_9C2C7AE5-C457-4544-AA92-C0B04B4FB48E" Subject: Re: Would you say shame on the guy that wrote this article? Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 09:39:36 -0700 In-Reply-To: <971175988.1465916.1346776039420.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <971175988.1465916.1346776039420.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118130 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 16:39:35 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_9C2C7AE5-C457-4544-AA92-C0B04B4FB48E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ok, I confess, I take off my shoes! On Sep 4, 2012, at 9:27 AM, Christophe wrote: > What do you wear in the studio? ;-) >=20 > From: "Laurie Amat" > To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2012 12:14:11 PM > Subject: Re: Would you say shame on the guy that wrote this article? >=20 > Well, having seen porn loops (and gotten a real kick out of them!), I = would never mistake one reference for the other.=20 >=20 > Offended? Not in the least. If someone thinks what I'm doing with = music is sexy or gritty, all the better! Sex, Sex, Sex!=20 >=20 >=20 > On Sep 4, 2012, at 1:10 AM, Tyler wrote: >=20 > > How many of you are and aren't offended by this? So, these people = from Wipipedia (read this carefully; I'm talking=20 > > about Wipipedia, NOT Wikipedia) have this definition for the word = "loop." Their definition does have to do with=20 > > repetition, but in a sexual way. Looper's Delight is a discussion = group for the looping scene, this=20 > > Wipi thing is a discussion group for the sexual scene, including = fetish clubs and all that crazy=20 > > stuff. Here is how they made "loop" a sex term. > > http://londonfetishscene.com/wipi/index.php/Loop > > Tyler Z > > --Apple-Mail=_9C2C7AE5-C457-4544-AA92-C0B04B4FB48E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Ok, I confess, I take off my = shoes!

On Sep 4, 2012, at 9:27 AM, Christophe = wrote:

From: "Laurie Amat" <voicesound@att.net>
To: loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 4, = 2012 12:14:11 PM
Subject: Re: Would you say shame = on the guy that wrote this article?

Well, having seen porn loops = (and gotten a real kick out of them!), I would never mistake one = reference for the other. 

Offended? Not in = the least. If someone thinks what I'm doing with music is sexy or = gritty, all the better! Sex, Sex, Sex! 


On Sep 4, 2012, = at 1:10 AM, Tyler wrote:

> How many of you are and aren't = offended by this? So, these people from Wipipedia (read this carefully; = I'm talking 
> = about Wipipedia, NOT Wikipedia) have this definition for the word = "loop." Their definition does have to do with 
> repetition, but in = a sexual way. Looper's Delight is a discussion group for the looping = scene, this 
> = Wipi thing is a discussion group for the sexual scene, including fetish = clubs and all that crazy 
> stuff. Here is how = they made "loop" a sex term.
> = http://londonfetishscene.com/wipi/index.php/Loop
> Tyler = Z
>

= --Apple-Mail=_9C2C7AE5-C457-4544-AA92-C0B04B4FB48E-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 17:12:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A877E18345C; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 17:12:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_991f6867-21f1-4b00-a892-ba2f5f09901c_" X-Originating-IP: [92.231.13.206] From: Sergio G Sender: To: Subject: RE: Do you think these controllers can be enough for livelooping with ableton? Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 17:12:06 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Sep 2012 17:12:07.0012 (UTC) FILETIME=[6963E240:01CD8AC0] Resent-Message-ID: <0-dyU.A.n5H.oZjRQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118131 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 17:12:08 +0000 (UTC) --_991f6867-21f1-4b00-a892-ba2f5f09901c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Per=2C no=2C I was talking of the Yamaha Mfc10=2C not of the Beringer.Andy said th= at the yamaha had too much latency and it was impossible to use it for live= looping.It seems to me that he was saying the beringer was ok for that. I cannot know EXACTLY all what I will want/like/need and be able to do with= Ableton. I will know it after a while of using it. But I prefer to have co= ntrollers which are enough flexible to let me do quite lot of things=2C so = I am covered.I would not like to be ina situation where I find that I want = to do something and I cannot.Also=2C I am leaving my job to have some more = time to make music=2C and I will work part-time with just enough for the ex= penses=2C so I would like to buy now what I know that will leave me covered= for a relatively enough long while. Because then I will probably have no m= oney for a gear for a long while.What would you suggest in this case? > Date: Tue=2C 4 Sep 2012 16:40:06 +0200 > Subject: Re: Do you think these controllers can be enough for livelooping= with ableton? > From: perboysen@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Hi Sergio=2C >=20 > To find an accurate answer to your questions regarding controller gear > you would need to first sit down and make a list of all processing > actions you plan to do when performing. When that is done you may see > right away if the LV2 will be sufficient=2C and if not=2C how many and > what type of control options you really need. >=20 > Latency can not be "solved". It takes time for information to travel > over a distance. Maybe you wondered about the MIDI latency > specifically in the Behringer FCB1010? It's by no ways as fast as a > MIDI keyboard but personally I have never had an issue with the > Behringer=2C as I have used it mostly for commands that are quantized at > the receiving end anyway. If you plan to use it for non-quantized > processing that is timing sensitive you can get the figues from Andy - > he did some measuring of MIDI latency a while back. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >=20 >=20 > On Tue=2C Sep 4=2C 2012 at 4:09 PM=2C Sergio G w= rote: > > Hello! > > > > As some of you know=2C I plan to do livelooping with a combination of > > Octatrack and Ableton. > > For Ableton I have a launchpad which I bought used before I knew about = the > > APC40. And a friend of me gave me for few money a Faderfox LV2. > > > > Now I wonder if I should try to get the APC40 and eventually sell the r= est=2C > > or if I should rather try to complement the launchpad/LV2 with other th= ings. > > I am 90% sure to buy an akai mpk25 because I need a midi keyboard=2C bo= th for > > ableton synths and for my waldorf blofeld. > > And the mpk has got knobs and velocity sensitive pads=2C so together wi= th the > > launchpad/LV2 it should cover most of what the APC does=2C right? > > > > I do not play guitar so my hands are free=2C this is why I did not thin= k about > > a foot controller yet=2C but part of my setup will be percussions=2C an= d later a > > theremin=2C and I am already trying to figure out how can I organize al= l these > > things close enough to the controllers and to the OT=2C so to be able t= o press > > the button to start recording a loop and then immediately start playing= the > > instrument without having to jump 5 meters like a kung fu monk. > > So I was trying to understand if it was better to buy a foot controller= like > > the beringer for example=2C or the yamaha (I find it for very cheap. We= re the > > latency problems solved finally? I have read some negative comments of = Andy > > about that)=2C and place it near to the theremin and to the percussions= =2C or if > > I should buy a couple of individual midi footswitch one near the therem= in > > and one near to the percussions. > > My audio interface has got midi in and midi out. > > I prefer to start thinking about it now. And you are the most expert li= ve > > loopers so=2C nobody can tell me that better than you. > > > > :) > > > > Ser >=20 = --_991f6867-21f1-4b00-a892-ba2f5f09901c_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Per=2C

no=2C I was talking of the Yamaha Mfc10=2C = not of the Beringer.
Andy said that the yamaha had too much laten= cy and it was impossible to use it for livelooping.
It seems to m= e that he was saying the beringer was ok for that.

I cannot know EXACTLY all what I will want/like/need and be able to do wit= h Ableton. I will know it after a while of using it. But I prefer to have c= ontrollers which are enough flexible to let me do quite lot of things=2C so= I am covered.
I would not like to be ina situation where I find = that I want to do something and I cannot.
Also=2C =3BI am leaving my job to have some more time to m= ake music=2C and I will work part-time with just enough for the expenses=2C= so I would like to buy now what I know that will leave me covered for a re= latively enough long while. Because then I will probably =3Bhave =3Bno money for a gea= r for a long while.
What would you suggest in this case?

>=3B Date: Tue=2C 4 Sep 2012 16:40:06 = +0200
>=3B Subject: Re: Do you think these controllers can be enough f= or livelooping with ableton?
>=3B From: perboysen@gmail.com
>=3B = To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
>=3B Hi Sergio=2C>=3B
>=3B To find an accurate answer to your questions regarding = controller gear
>=3B you would need to first sit down and make a list = of all processing
>=3B actions you plan to do when performing. When th= at is done you may see
>=3B right away if the LV2 will be sufficient= =2C and if not=2C how many and
>=3B what type of control options you r= eally need.
>=3B
>=3B Latency can not be "solved". It takes time= for information to travel
>=3B over a distance. Maybe you wondered ab= out the MIDI latency
>=3B specifically in the Behringer FCB1010? It's = by no ways as fast as a
>=3B MIDI keyboard but personally I have never= had an issue with the
>=3B Behringer=2C as I have used it mostly for = commands that are quantized at
>=3B the receiving end anyway. If you p= lan to use it for non-quantized
>=3B processing that is timing sensiti= ve you can get the figues from Andy -
>=3B he did some measuring of MI= DI latency a while back.
>=3B
>=3B Greetings from Sweden
>= =3B
>=3B Per Boysen
>=3B www.perboysen.com
>=3B http://www.= youtube.com/perboysen
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B On Tue=2C Sep 4=2C 20= 12 at 4:09 PM=2C Sergio G <=3Bsimpliflying@gmail.com>=3B wrote:
>= =3B >=3B Hello!
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B As some of you know=2C = I plan to do livelooping with a combination of
>=3B >=3B Octatrack a= nd Ableton.
>=3B >=3B For Ableton I have a launchpad which I bought = used before I knew about the
>=3B >=3B APC40. And a friend of me gav= e me for few money a Faderfox LV2.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Now I = wonder if I should try to get the APC40 and eventually sell the rest=2C
= >=3B >=3B or if I should rather try to complement the launchpad/LV2 wit= h other things.
>=3B >=3B I am 90% sure to buy an akai mpk25 because= I need a midi keyboard=2C both for
>=3B >=3B ableton synths and for= my waldorf blofeld.
>=3B >=3B And the mpk has got knobs and velocit= y sensitive pads=2C so together with the
>=3B >=3B launchpad/LV2 it = should cover most of what the APC does=2C right?
>=3B >=3B
>=3B= >=3B I do not play guitar so my hands are free=2C this is why I did not = think about
>=3B >=3B a foot controller yet=2C but part of my setup = will be percussions=2C and later a
>=3B >=3B theremin=2C and I am al= ready trying to figure out how can I organize all these
>=3B >=3B th= ings close enough to the controllers and to the OT=2C so to be able to pres= s
>=3B >=3B the button to start recording a loop and then immediatel= y start playing the
>=3B >=3B instrument without having to jump 5 me= ters like a kung fu monk.
>=3B >=3B So I was trying to understand if= it was better to buy a foot controller like
>=3B >=3B the beringer = for example=2C or the yamaha (I find it for very cheap. Were the
>=3B = >=3B latency problems solved finally? I have read some negative comments = of Andy
>=3B >=3B about that)=2C and place it near to the theremin a= nd to the percussions=2C or if
>=3B >=3B I should buy a couple of in= dividual midi footswitch one near the theremin
>=3B >=3B and one nea= r to the percussions.
>=3B >=3B My audio interface has got midi in a= nd midi out.
>=3B >=3B I prefer to start thinking about it now. And = you are the most expert live
>=3B >=3B loopers so=2C nobody can tell= me that better than you.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B :)
>=3B &g= t=3B
>=3B >=3B Ser
>=3B
= --_991f6867-21f1-4b00-a892-ba2f5f09901c_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 17:27:03 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4780B183453; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 17:27:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=lwKScW/7vZid5p6TkzXIoaNb3M28BDsvmJW5DQXYtFks7Tc2qW9gVaKyNeQg6Nw9; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Organization:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <504639C4.801@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 10:26:28 -0700 From: JC Reply-To: jcmg@earthlink.net Organization: JC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Would you say shame on the guy that wrote this article? - "Looper" References: <971175988.1465916.1346776039420.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 250e53821a8c36f54d2b10475b571120625206e9e1b742df397e4e0f02179318e7e90375e9be8927350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.181.231.116 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118132 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 17:27:03 +0000 (UTC) Re: other uses of "loop" words. Here's a new film which uses the word "looper" with an entirely different meaning: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looper_%28film%29 (OT: If you haven't seen "Primer", check it out.) JC Mendizabal Black Note Music http://www.blacknotemusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 18:03:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 725A7183460; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 18:03:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=MISuyxGpg2pYIcldVViR7EAletYvYiR12lpZJ1lYUXk=; b=f1/F/oFtK8aaHYHhr9Nz2t/MTYkzHu/DGRd/4nop40RumQLNb4Y3nCk2CcEZPr0QXt g9CQp1Bp67l8b2e712moMyV6ZOLXRDxLjxFCKWxEfgDqjkIJvsVaYljEqCaquAPj6UX+ Ilh9zadAT5JR+4bKxInyxZM1NXTPo7XvKdOJ0GRG8wf+/R+ypS+OEk3FAuATY/G3BMDT S0pFP8VOf1xnqKq4UbejzkLUGSPAfx/ukiy98rIIjWoU0WWUmBbRB1/LC7CX0vbohy5k 6K1A8wHWi+Ij0gunB5hKKAFmcaRf+m/A198TFk0j7vL34QFPqZkaoMUKU3XURcMz2589 wd8w== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 20:03:45 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Do you think these controllers can be enough for livelooping with ableton? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118133 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 18:03:46 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Sergio G wrote: > What would you suggest in this case? Still the same as I posted: Think about what live processing you may be doing when you're up and running and make sure the available buttons, knobs, switchers and faders will let you handle it in a convenient way. Bare-bone functionality! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 18:13:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 003E718345E; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 18:13:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=+udwS1V2a/C9OPXDkT8xz0G6V02OIs2CJNJOkPcAdFQ=; b=yd1aZLy6L2/lDH9Ucz89rcpT++Nxd9+IIYkjTMMELHITKg61ziAzx96VGKuHka1L+m IixxdPDb4iBbXgs7RU4Xy9X44Wx7QdISj3u1ak3cQKsKxEBf8pi6+91T4cKAHrQVBZRR 94AJ2uEEh6Jx/KtW+T2EbwFPtz279l8JB2BRS2cr3pLUICwf5yZ3RACd3MPMpeuhc9Zz X8LTXBFdXTGs4HLthdlbU8BEOVvhPDLXFHwjO5SKM/rEVIvku6LnSFwbw6tOKzKM8gn9 fWbJ1NLmsXrDdZH+JuPvPeOORi51/t7WtK5HgiZ3F82x0lG9YXAKwKT8OA+iA5T3tIbr I3uA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 20:13:31 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: u2BbV9NwS3j91jRxNbZw59SC_Ag Message-ID: Subject: Re: Do you think these controllers can be enough for livelooping with ableton? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b621e126a90b604c8e438af Resent-Message-ID: <2JeyzD.A.t5.gTkRQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118134 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 18:13:52 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b621e126a90b604c8e438af Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Sergio G wrote: > > What would you suggest in this case? > > > I think you are over thinking it Sergio... With all the gear you have amassed I would say you have a really seriously great bunch of stuff... I would plug it all in and see where you get... I tell ya, its gonna be a while before you figure out that ..." I should a had more knobs," or "I need more buttons" or.. "The pedal aint sending /receiving the right kinda midi message. There are gonna be some duff buys, but when that happens, sell, move on... Pers advice is very valid, IF you can figure out what you need, then do it... but keep it simple... Just getting all that to synch will be a Hallelujah Brother moment, and thats what we live for... Oh and by the way, congratz on the OctaTrack! I hate you! ;-) Mark -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b621e126a90b604c8e438af Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com><= /span> wrote:
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Sergio G <simpliflying@gmail.com> wrote:
> What would you suggest in this case?



I think you are over thinking i= t Sergio... With all the gear you have amassed I would say you have a reall= y seriously great bunch of stuff... I would plug it all in and see where yo= u get... I tell ya, its gonna be a while before you figure out that ...&quo= t; I should a had more knobs," or "I need more buttons"=A0 o= r.. "The pedal aint sending /receiving the right kinda midi message.
There are gonna be some duff buys, but when that happens, sell, move on= ...

Pers advice is very valid, IF you can figure out what you need, = then do it... but keep it simple... Just getting all that to synch will be = a Hallelujah Brother moment, and thats what we live for...

Oh and by the way, congratz on the OctaTrack! I hate you!

;-)

Mark

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Bill Keith did something like this with his banjos; recommended it, in fact. It's certainly a less attractive solution for a a guitar than a banjo but if you don't do it very often... k --1508702382-56923931-1346798516=:24821 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
reviving an old thread... i found a sacrificial guitar to unbolt and put into my luggage in pieces... trouble is, according to this chart, no airline will take any bag big enough to hold the neck, so there goes that scheme... even a steinberger clone won't work, unless i am missing something.
http://www.luggagesource.com/Carry-on-size-charts.aspx
(stephen, i hope you got a nice new case out of your ordeal)


Tim Mungenast
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Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast

--- On Fri, 8/10/12, Keith Smith <kahsmith@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Keith Smith <kahsmith@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Flying with a guitar... or not
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Friday, August 10, 2012, 1:55 PM

If you're playing a solid body with a bolt-on neck, you might consider removing the neck, packing your clothes in the case and put the body in your carry-on.

Bill Keith did something like this with his banjos; recommended it, in fact.

It's certainly a less attractive solution for a a guitar than a banjo but if you don't do it very often...
k


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Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: David Gans In-Reply-To: <1346798516.24821.YahooMailClassic@web84502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 15:58:18 -0700 Cc: David Gans Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9B32250C-7B64-471B-BC4D-400732415107@trufun.com> References: <1346798516.24821.YahooMailClassic@web84502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: <8e3loC.A.LRD.NeoRQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118137 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 22:58:21 +0000 (UTC) I fly with my Renaissance guitar in a Calton case and hardly ever have = any problem getting it on board. I have taken eight cross-country round = trips since April, and I have been able to put the guitar in the = overhead bin on all but one flight. A Calton case makes it possible to = gate-check without fear, and even if I have to check it as baggage it = will be fine. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 23:40:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57E2718345E; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 23:40:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_b3082049-e1ca-45ec-8864-b0ea80675a9d_" X-Originating-IP: [92.231.12.163] From: Sergio G Sender: To: Subject: RE: Do you think these controllers can be enough for livelooping with ableton? Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 23:40:04 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: , , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Sep 2012 23:40:04.0237 (UTC) FILETIME=[9BB28BD0:01CD8AF6] Resent-Message-ID: <4nFSqD.A.krD.WFpRQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118138 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 23:40:06 +0000 (UTC) --_b3082049-e1ca-45ec-8864-b0ea80675a9d_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable @Mark: THe responsible guy in me (the one whom I never gave opportunity to = take controll of my ego) hates me too=2C because I have no more savings.And= being able to save an average of 500 euro monthly=2C and having from 2 to = max 4 more months of job before I start a part-time (=3Dno more savings=2C = just enough for the expenses) -if I find it=2C if not I am unemployed-=2C w= ell=2C I may understand this "responsible me".Luckily I am not responsible= =2C I feel that it is too late=2C at 36=2C to start being worried for the e= conomical future=2C now that I start feeling the age and I am more worried = about being happy with what I am and what I do in my life...:) You are right too. I was just trying=2C I guess=2C to minimize the % of err= ors in the purchases.But ok.I will calm down and enjoy more what I have. @ Per: what was that=2C Zen?:D Ok. We'll see then. From: mark@markfrancombe.com Date: Tue=2C 4 Sep 2012 20:13:31 +0200 Subject: Re: Do you think these controllers can be enough for livelooping w= ith ableton? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com On Tue=2C Sep 4=2C 2012 at 8:03 PM=2C Per Boysen wrot= e: On Tue=2C Sep 4=2C 2012 at 7:12 PM=2C Sergio G wro= te: > What would you suggest in this case? I think you are over thinking it Sergio... With all the gear you have amass= ed I would say you have a really seriously great bunch of stuff... I would = plug it all in and see where you get... I tell ya=2C its gonna be a while b= efore you figure out that ..." I should a had more knobs=2C" or "I need mor= e buttons" or.. "The pedal aint sending /receiving the right kinda midi me= ssage. There are gonna be some duff buys=2C but when that happens=2C sell=2C move = on.... Pers advice is very valid=2C IF you can figure out what you need=2C then do= it... but keep it simple... Just getting all that to synch will be a Halle= lujah Brother moment=2C and thats what we live for... Oh and by the way=2C congratz on the OctaTrack! I hate you! =3B-) Mark --=20 Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.comwww.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ = --_b3082049-e1ca-45ec-8864-b0ea80675a9d_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
@Mark: THe responsible guy in me (the one whom I never gave opportunity to = take controll of my ego) hates me too=2C because I have no more savings.And being able to save an average of 500 euro monthly=2C and having from = 2 to max 4 more months of job before I start a part-time (=3Dno more saving= s=2C just enough for the expenses) -if I find it=2C if not I am unemployed-= =2C well=2C I may understand this "responsible me".
Luckily I am = not responsible=2C I feel that it is too late=2C at 36=2C to start being wo= rried for the economical future=2C now that I start feeling the age and I a= m more worried about being happy with what I am and what I do in my life...=
:)

You are right too. =3B
I was just trying=2C I guess=2C to min= imize the % of errors in the purchases.
But ok.
I will calm down and enjoy more what I have.


@ Per: what was that=2C Zen?
:D=

Ok. We'll see then.




From: mark@markfra= ncombe.com
Date: Tue=2C 4 Sep 2012 20:13:31 +0200
Subject: Re: Do you= think these controllers can be enough for livelooping with ableton?
To:= Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

On Tue=2C Sep 4=2C 2012 at 8:03= PM=2C Per Boysen <=3Bperboysen@gmail.com>=3B wrote:
On Tue=2C Sep 4=2C 2012 at 7:12 PM=2C Sergio G <=3Bsimpliflying@gmail.com>=3B wrote:
>=3B What would you suggest in this case?



I think you are over thinking i= t Sergio... With all the gear you have amassed I would say you have a reall= y seriously great bunch of stuff... I would plug it all in and see where yo= u get... I tell ya=2C its gonna be a while before you figure out that ..." = I should a had more knobs=2C" or "I need more buttons" =3B or.. "The pe= dal aint sending /receiving the right kinda midi message.

There are gonna be some duff buys=2C but when that happens=2C sell=2C m= ove on....

Pers advice is very valid=2C IF you can figure out what y= ou need=2C then do it... but keep it simple... Just getting all that to syn= ch will be a Hallelujah Brother moment=2C and thats what we live for...

Oh and by the way=2C congratz on the OctaTrack! I hate you!

=3B-= )


Mark

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= --_b3082049-e1ca-45ec-8864-b0ea80675a9d_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 5 00:27:29 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBE88183477; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 00:27:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 243700.20602.bm@omp1019.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1346804847; bh=xOGOVRdVim9IyBEJEIPA3EICHYsfjq/zHyA1nHO9sH0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=0a0uW5EeWZKhR6g3BxENgpVc60EfmvR2iXLd5OrZ5qvh4kkCmWt0bCZz3ENZBONUl5ne9Joagp6k9oYmWxMN2o4sePr5aBdERtQFCwCx56w36BMF4Yk2oMIJ+53MRJAtWSHBREfGLbnjYqq/amWtVkOToSlbL1VA8NRXCsfdZuk= X-YMail-OSG: IU32hxAVM1kFboKDvnP1fVrHClx8Q.Lrcc_TPTHrJMSZ8IT RTCPMlTzubVFEr9QsaZG_aZ558IRWv6aeEwJRBixUxCye3M1fcekV9B3g3qm 1dEJSxjQenVc5YAjHiEKUGYmf4W4fhemJfS0x_p6oIcXBZU1q_IVffMgxoJJ ud0VfNivgHryPw.DMs0dwSvW2jyywNZp9pZSrfI_g1_XfE42jB8Kq__W7Xch o_paRg19redPjaSvnuRCTuCk57.FJI1hTrrLH8l9YbgPVpWZXb0Ln5zEW3BP l98maSKHbC3UnVLomnGaqTdyydorAL1KkNeaExW8kHclSxYb3_.LAteq8SYe EYZP8yzNn0rWyzJMqWit8Mz_XHV5Ektk0IP14kH6xE1l6_UeRcXBpytaXKX3 jUijGGoSMaDe.nlR.CyZL34xv.AoeTHR9qO8wQPbbZyuEdKXyubQTAvpYVxe 9GpTX2w7fBBBu3gttHQ7CJJnPATaKvLA.2syFrI.irtEnpiyhZHk2la8N_zr t3v_ZNRn9kDk_14YB7Xo.DDBzHu9kXDlV5HSTHD4YZiOArJEjpccNdMCaep9 ZUUID0ZoaRd09r0VbtisMAKFDoNgmhQgQxJ8fOCwLxchDSh58YI5OSzUP2Mp t3J1UdDkKHigFNUMSsiJukWdVXbeBd9eDlYGfYyrcw.JWjw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 Message-ID: <1346804847.47097.YahooMailClassic@web84506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 17:27:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Mungenast Subject: Re: Flying with a guitar... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: David Gans In-Reply-To: <9B32250C-7B64-471B-BC4D-400732415107@trufun.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118139 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 00:27:29 +0000 (UTC) =0AThanks, David. I feel better now. You clearly have experience on your si= de. I admit that I am really good at worrying... perhaps TOO good. =0A=0ATi= m Mungenast=0AEditor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast= =0AGuitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast=0A=0A=0A-= -- On Tue, 9/4/12, David Gans wrote:=0A=0A> From: David = Gans =0A> Subject: Re: Flying with a guitar...=0A> To: Lo= opers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Cc: "David Gans" = =0A> Date: Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 6:58 PM=0A> =0A> I fly with my Renai= ssance guitar in a Calton case and hardly=0A> ever have any problem getting= it on board.=A0 I have=0A> taken eight cross-country round trips since Apr= il, and I=0A> have been able to put the guitar in the overhead bin on all= =0A> but one flight. A Calton case makes it possible to=0A> gate-check with= out fear, and even if I have to check it as=0A> baggage it will be fine.=0A= > =0A> =0A> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 5 08:13:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29202183465; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 08:13:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 803080296/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.25.243/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.25.243 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnkDAH4IR1BYbRnz/2dsb2JhbAANOLoOBAKELgEBAQMBODMNBgsLIRYPCQMCAQIBRRwBiAOme5N5jneDHAObJY0y X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,373,1344207600"; d="scan'208";a="803080296" Message-ID: <504709B4.2060900@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 09:13:40 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Do you think these controllers can be enough for livelooping with ableton? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118140 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 08:13:28 +0000 (UTC) Sergio G wrote: > without having to jump 5 meters > like a kung fu monk. hmmmm...that's not such a bad idea > So I was trying to understand if it was better to buy a foot controller > like the beringer for example, or the yamaha (I find it for very cheap. > Were the latency problems solved finally? I have read some negative > comments of Andy about that), No. I confirmed the problem with Yamaha Tech Support in UK, useless for accurate timed loops. Tech guy had no way to pass that info back to the designers, or to check that the bug had even been reported. I *will* sell you one if you want it ;-) > and place it near to the theremin and to > the percussions, or if I should buy a couple of individual midi > footswitch one near the theremin and one near to the percussions. > My audio interface has got midi in and midi out. > I prefer to start thinking about it now. And you are the most expert > live loopers so, nobody can tell me that better than you. well for your own requirements, *you* are always the expert. Like the guys already persuaded you, get playing. (The fcb1010 is pretty good as a first midi pedal, especially when price is considered.) andy > > :) > > Ser From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 5 11:24:33 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDBE9183465; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 11:24:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5047366D.2020707@soundscapes.us> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 07:24:29 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Wostheinrich & Motzer at the Soundscapes Concert Series Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118141 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 11:24:33 +0000 (UTC) CONCERT ANNOUNCEMENT FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Sunday, September 30, the Soundscapes Concert Series returns to the Nazareth Center for the Arts with Bernhard Wostheinrich and Tim Motzer from Germany and Philadelphia, respectively. BERNHARD WOSTHEINRICH: Bernhard leads his own solo project "The Redundant Rocker" and his main collaborator is Markus Reuter (in CENTROZOON). He has also worked with Ian Boddy, Klaus Hoffmann-Hoock, No-Man singer Tim Bowness, Thorsten Niestrath, and Synapscape's Philipp Münch. Bernhard elicits meaning from abstraction in electronic music and painting. He has studied graphic design and has created an eclectic body of work in both graphics and music. Using a compositional approach akin to his work as a visual artist, Bernhard usually begins by improvising abstract sonic structures which are subsequently developed into an increasingly detailed aural picture. TIM MOTZER: Based in Philadelphia, this guitarist and composer finds infinite joy in diversity. His output as a leader and sideman crisscrosses multiple musical universes, including jazz, fusion, prog, hip-hop, soul, electronica, and the avantgarde. Motzer gets to explore these genres and the intersections between them via his ubiquitous presence in the wildly deep and varied Philly scene, where he can be found working with the likes of DJ/Producer King Britt, spoken word/hip-hop artist Ursula Rucker, and jazz-fusion bassist Jamaaladeen Tacuma. He also traverses manifold territories through the many albums released on his own 1k Recordings label, including the expansive, laidback song forms of Nucultures, the crunchy jazz-funk of Jazzheads, and the solo soundscapes of his Tilomo alias. The Soundscapes Concert Series is the concert companion to the Galactic Travels radio program on WDIY-FM and to Thought Radio on WMUH-FM and presents electronic music to the Lehigh Valley. This is the concert series that presented Broekhuis, Keller & Schonwalder (Germany), Wave World (Netherlands), Dean DeBenedictis & Vic Hennegan (California), Bernhard Wosteinrich (Germany), Robert Rich (California), vidnaObmana (Belgium), The Ministry of Inside Things (Philadelphia), Richard Lainhart (New York), Orbital Decay (Quakertown), Mark Jenkins (UK), Mikronesia (Philadelphia), The Tangent Project (Philadelphia), Technicolor Travel Agency (Poconos), and Twyndyllyngs (Lehigh Valley) to local audiences. Here is a collection of links related to this concert. BERNHARD WOSTHEINRICH: http://redundantrocker.wordpress.com TIM MOTZER: http://1krecordings.com/artists/tim-motzer SOUNDSCAPES: http://soundscapes.us FLIER: http://soundscapes.us/concert018/flier.pdf BANNER: http://soundscapes.us/concert018/banner.jpg NAZARETH CENTER FOR THE ARTS: http://nazaretharts.com GALACTIC TRAVELS: http://galactictravels.info THOUGHT RADIO: http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 5 23:04:01 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25384183464; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 23:04:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5047DA58.80407@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 16:03:52 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: G-MAIL accounts won't take Y2K12 LOOPFEST communications: HELP!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118142 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 23:04:00 +0000 (UTC) I just found out that I can't send my Performers Messages out to any gmail accounts. Does anyone know what I can do to reach people? It will kill me if I have to reach every single artist individually with every single important announcement. Any advise? I cannot reach the following artists because of this G-mail lack of support for a large emailing: ... while talking to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com.: >>> DATA <<< 451-4.3.0 Multiple destination domains per transaction is unsupported. Please <<< 451 4.3.0 try again. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 5 23:09:48 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7748E183465; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 23:09:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=fHFQeAiTA20tyXN1One5stTk6kB0ZCyrCr1QW4VhDtk=; b=XDdN09imZX/wNnGB66dw1sVAWDwUUI6gpFrCsIGb4JwWpYa1Kwrxbw95Fxr3zMh+b1 mBo+iq9mZiLV2xGAfbO/rtvx2ALPSC22lYwh1AQbcc33qUTKDE8qduUen7ks8T53cBT3 bX9/bNwRR95UUX51HjUcljkoaBCMPPPcCSZLSIo5I7RZiWR2R2ZiH94vum3giBkZ0kSQ eRI4Rt/JXtNZA1DbaipgsO6NsywW6wS5C1aYk/Iph511O3xYEyQYSk4VU82Mafay0WE+ LCn6ZAdAPixk4UjKcQYaaeOAD/rbruUuNhiuIvJC6QTgWLeyboQ+dqxl12GOjJYxSnij rZ6g== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5047DA58.80407@cruzio.com> References: <5047DA58.80407@cruzio.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 19:09:07 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: G-MAIL accounts won't take Y2K12 LOOPFEST communications: HELP!!! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54d4e0a99e38604c8fc7812 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118143 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 23:09:48 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec54d4e0a99e38604c8fc7812 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable that's so weird. i never have that problem. one thing you could do is just make a tumbler account and have people subscribe to it through their email, that way you post once and it goes directly to their email box, could be more efficient for you anyway=85 Tumblr, wordpress, posterous, anything. Yo= u can make them all private. so sorry you're having problems. It's easily rectifiable though. On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > I just found out that I can't send my > Performers Messages out to any gmail accounts. > > Does anyone know what I can do to reach people? > > It will kill me if I have to reach every single artist individually with > every single > important announcement. > > --bcaec54d4e0a99e38604c8fc7812 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable that's so weird. i never have that problem. one thing you could do is j= ust make a tumbler account and have people subscribe to it through their em= ail, that way you post once and it goes directly to their email box, could = be more efficient for you anyway=85 Tumblr, wordpress, posterous, anything.= You can make them all private. =A0so sorry you're having problems. =A0= It's easily rectifiable though. =A0


On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Rick Wal= ker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
I just found out that I can't send my
Performers Messages out to any gmail accounts.

Does anyone know what I can do to reach people?

It will kill me if I have to reach every single artist individually with ev= ery single
important announcement.

--bcaec54d4e0a99e38604c8fc7812-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 5 23:13:29 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B655F183466; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 23:13:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0593513173==" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20120905231303.4464.83792.levelstar.mail@everest> Sender: Tyler Reply-to: Tyler From: Tyler Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 19:13:03 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Subject: Re: G-MAIL accounts won't take Y2K12 LOOPFEST communications: HELP!!! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118144 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 23:13:29 +0000 (UTC) Unable to read this email, please upgrage your mail client --===============0593513173== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Check=20your=20spam=20settings. Tyler=20Z On=20Wed,=205=20Sep=202012=2019:09:07=20-0400,=20todd=20reynolds=20wrote: >that's=20so=20weird.=20i=20never=20have=20that=20problem.=20one=20thing=20= you=20could=20do=20is=20just=20make=20 >a=20tumbler=20account=20and=20have=20people=20subscribe=20to=20it=20throug= h=20their=20email,=20that=20way=20 >you=20post=20once=20and=20it=20goes=20directly=20to=20their=20email=20box,= =20could=20be=20more=20efficient=20 >for=20you=20anyway=20Tumblr,=20wordpress,=20posterous,=20anything.=20You= =20can=20make=20them=20all=20 >private.=20so=20sorry=20you're=20having=20problems.=20It's=20easily=20rect= ifiable=20though.=20 >On=20Wed,=20Sep=205,=202012=20at=207:03=20PM,=20Rick=20Walker=20=20wrote: >I=20just=20found=20out=20that=20I=20can't=20send=20my >Performers=20Messages=20out=20to=20any=20gmail=20accounts. >Does=20anyone=20know=20what=20I=20can=20do=20to=20reach=20people? >It=20will=20kill=20me=20if=20I=20have=20to=20reach=20every=20single=20arti= st=20individually=20with=20every=20 >single >important=20announcement. --===============0593513173==-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 5 23:15:09 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93F86183463; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 23:15:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=E20804TCKWyD1tnv0cqcyl8+LEuapMfr9HMmmFhugOU=; b=ruP2QFraFnqZvvmV5DHI41BGMnvx/153yTupPWQWR3JkPPPfnEjaQUzZyHYw+l9oBW sQMF7Gm1ttcROLiqUHcNZuSIwJy4z284kZVh3d807XS7jtKBfWCXmjuGxZhjWATivZnT LjuZnA9VVh0jS7/rlVhARfL4XF7z+8oIvgD25w/22uvMx76Zi9Xian1RAGg6C4tv4j59 fMaObntr5PGYL3s6fVwVsl2s2bJyxdrCio+4naq1wyIkL/4t6dZealgdNHjYX+mes+Eu fPhmf5pIw/ybHqIFJQCHABEtOAcFOsk9hrO9JtVT0ViFIOppNIrj887wNX0OsA7UEOsG 1v3w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <5047DA58.80407@cruzio.com> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 01:14:48 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5kNSU20mhgEaobuCRHgC7gUYPHk Message-ID: Subject: Re: G-MAIL accounts won't take Y2K12 LOOPFEST communications: HELP!!! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b621e12b7cc2904c8fc8b70 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118145 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 23:15:09 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b621e12b7cc2904c8fc8b70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You CAN definitely send to multiple Gmail accounts Rick, I do it regularly at work, and thats to many hundreds of addresses (Did anyone say Spam?) I dont have a solution for you other than, open a Gmail account and use that for sending your Festival mail. Good luck with it mate, I truly wish I could come again one year. Mark On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 1:09 AM, todd reynolds wrote: > that's so weird. i never have that problem. one thing you could do is jus= t > make a tumbler account and have people subscribe to it through their emai= l, > that way you post once and it goes directly to their email box, could be > more efficient for you anyway=85 Tumblr, wordpress, posterous, anything. = You > can make them all private. so sorry you're having problems. It's easily > rectifiable though. > > > On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > >> I just found out that I can't send my >> Performers Messages out to any gmail accounts. >> >> Does anyone know what I can do to reach people? >> >> It will kill me if I have to reach every single artist individually with >> every single >> important announcement. >> >> --=20 *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b621e12b7cc2904c8fc8b70 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You CAN definitely send to multiple Gmail accounts Rick, I do it regularly = at work, and thats to many hundreds of addresses (Did anyone say Spam?) I d= ont have a solution for you other than, open a Gmail account and use that f= or sending your Festival mail.
Good luck with it mate, I truly wish I could come again one year.

Ma= rk


On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 1:09 AM, to= dd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:
that's so weird. i never have that probl= em. one thing you could do is just make a tumbler account and have people s= ubscribe to it through their email, that way you post once and it goes dire= ctly to their email box, could be more efficient for you anyway=85 Tumblr, = wordpress, posterous, anything. You can make them all private. =A0so sorry = you're having problems. =A0It's easily rectifiable though. =A0


On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Rick Wal= ker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
I just found out that I can't send my
Performers Messages out to any gmail accounts.

Does anyone know what I can do to reach people?

It will kill me if I have to reach every single artist individually with ev= ery single
important announcement.




--
= Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
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--047d7b621e12b7cc2904c8fc8b70-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 5 23:17:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A81B183474; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 23:17:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at omta4.brinkster.com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mta9.brinkster.com From: "listmail" To: References: <5047DA58.80407@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <5047DA58.80407@cruzio.com> Subject: RE: G-MAIL accounts won't take Y2K12 LOOPFEST communications: HELP!!! Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 16:17:02 -0700 Message-ID: <00b701cd8bbc$8f0a93c0$ad1fbb40$@asyouthink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQIu48+xlVvt04Eoq86X/ncyH2JBu5a5sMPw Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118146 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 23:17:07 +0000 (UTC) Sounds like it doesn't like too many folks in the CC / BCC on a given a single email. Perhaps use a mail-merge app to send them out one-at-a-time, but automatically? (e.g. Something like MailList King or similar). -----Original Message----- From: Rick Walker [mailto:looppool@cruzio.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 4:04 PM To: LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) Subject: G-MAIL accounts won't take Y2K12 LOOPFEST communications: HELP!!! I just found out that I can't send my Performers Messages out to any gmail accounts. Does anyone know what I can do to reach people? It will kill me if I have to reach every single artist individually with every single important announcement. Any advise? I cannot reach the following artists because of this G-mail lack of support for a large emailing: ... while talking to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com.: >>> DATA <<< 451-4.3.0 Multiple destination domains per transaction is unsupported. Please <<< 451 4.3.0 try again. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 5 23:22:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2720C183476; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 23:22:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <9A32BE084F214DFF8B7EB32619938580@SgtephPC> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <5047DA58.80407@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <5047DA58.80407@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: G-MAIL accounts won't take Y2K12 LOOPFEST communications: HELP!!! Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 19:22:29 -0400 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3555.308 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118147 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 23:22:30 +0000 (UTC) If it's in the From field it will get flagged. What about Bcc? -----Original Message----- From: Rick Walker Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 7:03 PM To: LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) Subject: G-MAIL accounts won't take Y2K12 LOOPFEST communications: HELP!!! I just found out that I can't send my Performers Messages out to any gmail accounts. Does anyone know what I can do to reach people? It will kill me if I have to reach every single artist individually with every single important announcement. Any advise? I cannot reach the following artists because of this G-mail lack of support for a large emailing: ... while talking to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com.: >>> DATA <<< 451-4.3.0 Multiple destination domains per transaction is unsupported. Please <<< 451 4.3.0 try again. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 6 00:08:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6FB5E183465; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 00:08:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: G-MAIL accounts won't take Y2K12 LOOPFEST communications: HELP!!! References: <5047DA58.80407@cruzio.com> <9A32BE084F214DFF8B7EB32619938580@SgtephPC> From: Peter Koniuto Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) In-Reply-To: <9A32BE084F214DFF8B7EB32619938580@SgtephPC> Message-Id: Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 20:08:41 -0400 To: "" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - lava.liquidweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - redsunsoundroom.com Resent-Message-ID: <9Lo7r.A.i6H.Pm-RQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118148 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 00:08:47 +0000 (UTC) Any email coming from my domain name was recently tagged by GMail as spam. I= t took months to correct. In fact, I had my webhost company move me to a com= pletely different server (which solved the problem) before Google got around= to lifting the ban on any email from the 8 companies who shared my original= server. What's difficult about this is that all other email services have people to g= o to when a mistake like this is made. Google, by contrast, thinks itself an= iron fortress. I lost business because of their careless business practices. Peter Koniuto 518.892.6766 (m) On Sep 5, 2012, at 7:22 PM, "Stephen Goodman" wro= te: > If it's in the =46rom field it will get flagged. What about Bcc? >=20 > -----Original Message----- From: Rick Walker > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 7:03 PM > To: LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) > Subject: G-MAIL accounts won't take Y2K12 LOOPFEST communications: HELP!!!= >=20 > I just found out that I can't send my > Performers Messages out to any gmail accounts. >=20 > Does anyone know what I can do to reach people? >=20 > It will kill me if I have to reach every single artist individually with > every single > important announcement. >=20 > Any advise? >=20 > I cannot reach the following artists because of this G-mail lack of suppor= t > for a large emailing: >=20 >=20 > ... while talking to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com.: >=20 >>>> DATA >=20 > <<< 451-4.3.0 Multiple destination domains per transaction is unsupported.= Please > <<< 451 4.3.0 try again. > > > > > > > > > > > > =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 6 00:28:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3198183465; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 00:28:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 565088.24734.bm@omp1012.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1346891322; bh=JVKnErcl8ej0x2dD6GZ4WChR2TzhnkkQLrltj3Maevw=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=eNGUHSisFuc+NbXRsGQ2y1W+hP8In02RsyaNT7jhGxBvUtyIoAcc6TjR9BkDX6DkT+44RouIVxXm01XwHHpb79EkwgTv8+XFU2g4B/sGut4c0EHRRv9v3HF79fxhW5j+++Qk63PvfO+2w8UkkGaEI1UuR2fvk6WOD8Ns0bS1JX4= X-YMail-OSG: e0L5KZMVM1koWIp4B3eL4vKsHKCYGAstWuq.5udeirQhtJ4 3tkV6U8mLRC_0bjDQbJd7S1FFl3FuCpI8j2tp0M9CUnu585wGlXlvjkTJ9Ld Q49_IP1.nermJpCgY1yYJ9Hmu0_tAIZUDjNYb6NKaJy.gHcy0bZsLabkhVPp IGpQ4CpwcpMQkz3sdMW6KXRERcbOq0q1GztKq6qOsDLLQfkQbY6ioggo90Ar VAJcXLIkTvI4qbg.a1D2CUmjRVTkxUasNrXq46.BGU7i_bGTF3RSuBeWRRDJ 5kjh7cIF59P72Q6GUmywSHWdN6JKs4lwNE_mHuzYrx.U285IhA2uaUaXLbCR 0N8vEq0yt6IFlMk9HIF.FNBc2aZ2uluBMCc_iLOjLQImkvzKh.25fHu3gQSM SX9NrqJPLlE_3vJxIoe6hhvR6uqyahJ42_xiMEu1hiAaeKW6Hn1w7TpdRNRG DnSqHUXoNh4pnWbIPLhmv_3YtVlpGY6KbhlCHRjPIpdxyph3pHQf1ham10_M 1IzyFjczgJHbdupnLgDm.Kw.XM31vv46Mr44vrFGOMzdY4oa7Hj30e0sSChh QHNGD7gvHeqEfXSP.KzKMI5b.6kb7lW9TYNFjOnZTLdTeRPrKdo0fyy_hNUG ay6GwgNnnl9u74l8bG.uIvTEoJt8RCXBjTFzcatUSEMB3EqgFB85im1LTd2Z 0ZVa40KnPaonuAQKpebxPBSPFabrGnR8epoDdgihpMco- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 Message-ID: <1346891322.25783.YahooMailClassic@web84502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 17:28:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Mungenast Subject: Re: G-MAIL accounts won't take Y2K12 LOOPFEST communications: HELP!!! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <5047DA58.80407@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118149 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 00:28:43 +0000 (UTC) =0AAlthough I am not on Gmail, your e-mail makes me wonder if I have missed= any Performers Messages, as I do not recall receiving any yet.=0A=0A=0A=0A= Tim Mungenast=0AEditor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast= =0AGuitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast=0A=0A=0A-= -- On Wed, 9/5/12, Rick Walker wrote:=0A=0A> From: Ri= ck Walker =0A> Subject: G-MAIL accounts won't take Y2K= 12 LOOPFEST communications: HELP!!!=0A> To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" =0A> Date: Wednesday, September 5, 2012,= 7:03 PM=0A> I just found out that I can't send=0A> my=0A> Performers Messa= ges out to any gmail accounts.=0A> =0A> Does anyone know what I can do to r= each people?=0A> =0A> It will kill me if I have to reach every single artis= t=0A> individually with every single=0A> important announcement.=0A> =0A> A= ny advise?=0A> =0A> I cannot reach the following artists because of this G-= mail=0A> lack of support=0A> for a large emailing:=0A> =0A> =0A> ... while = talking to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com.:=0A> =0A> >>> DATA=0A> =0A> <<< 451-= 4.3.0 Multiple destination domains per=0A> transaction is unsupported.=A0 P= lease=0A> <<< 451 4.3.0 try again.=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> <= mattdavignon@gmail.com>=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 6 01:46:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E06A8183464; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 01:46:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=FLCxCuR26tyvzkrnxP6iZH3/QE4Nv2NZq+0vBd2bsB0=; b=RKLI/irOb2B5zhYsywX73Bm2wgOi9Rmr/eWctbcavCIxPMOfTFBkHc9UsDaJoRaPI5 Xb6A77noeT4Y8nxQqgwLuF+IHdxJyqTWcNj+AaJyrKl5sItCdqdC99+i3xyBHh/alA3e B4gBnHKoPEXbHA/DQIIrnKddkAaZfMEX22Xx+oqI1FFqpYzwR/xyQsYSLvrgFbbOGy/W Bj74EDHmMBI69rp5hxQYC7r/80xquVt0dnOrE9nCBLM1hCyCNg81d/50/YVFxyw11qn8 h0ljFfAPQTEUHmBV5lhnhERCdWgIISDuGkK33nhRytv24IKXVEp6RrrbwZmcyH3snEFD jdaQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5047DA58.80407@cruzio.com> References: <5047DA58.80407@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 18:46:48 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: G-MAIL accounts won't take Y2K12 LOOPFEST communications: HELP!!! From: Lindsey Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae93403cd272cfa04c8feaa65 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118150 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 01:46:49 +0000 (UTC) --14dae93403cd272cfa04c8feaa65 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I got missive no. 2 just fine. Lindsey On Sep 5, 2012 4:04 PM, "Rick Walker" wrote: > I just found out that I can't send my > Performers Messages out to any gmail accounts. > > Does anyone know what I can do to reach people? > > It will kill me if I have to reach every single artist individually with > every single > important announcement. > > Any advise? > > I cannot reach the following artists because of this G-mail lack of support > for a large emailing: > > > ... while talking to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com.: > > DATA >>>> >>> > <<< 451-4.3.0 Multiple destination domains per transaction is unsupported. > Please > <<< 451 4.3.0 try again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --14dae93403cd272cfa04c8feaa65 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I got missive no. 2 just fine.
Lindsey

On Sep 5, 2012 4:04 PM, "Rick Walker" = <looppool@cruzio.com> wrot= e:
I just found out that I can't send my
Performers Messages out to any gmail accounts.

Does anyone know what I can do to reach people?

It will kill me if I have to reach every single artist individually with ev= ery single
important announcement.

Any advise?

I cannot reach the following artists because of this G-mail lack of support=
for a large emailing:


... while talking to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com.:

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--14dae93403cd272cfa04c8feaa65-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 6 04:39:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 986D618345D; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 04:39:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <94DC19D5-1210-413F-BE06-27AC76E0F385@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-83--768038349 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Flying with a guitar... Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 21:39:08 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118151 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 04:39:16 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-83--768038349 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I fly with my Renaissance guitar in a Calton case and hardly ever > have any problem getting it on board. Where you actually able to get a case from Calton? I think it was you who said a while back it was impossible to get anything out of him Bill --Apple-Mail-83--768038349 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I fly with my Renaissance guitar in a Calton case and hardly ever have any problem getting it on board. 

 Where you actually able to get a case from Calton? I think it was you who said a while back it was impossible to get anything out of him
 Bill
--Apple-Mail-83--768038349-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 6 05:08:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98EE2183464; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 05:08:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 05:08:49 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_c527c7fb-c720-40c4-bff6-3d4b5293ff45_" X-Originating-IP: [24.21.214.18] From: Jeremy devros To: "loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: Y2K12 LOOPFEST Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 22:03:48 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <5047DA58.80407@cruzio.com> References: <5047DA58.80407@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Sep 2012 05:03:48.0546 (UTC) FILETIME=[FFE6A220:01CD8BEC] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118152 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 05:08:49 +0000 (UTC) --_c527c7fb-c720-40c4-bff6-3d4b5293ff45_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey=2C Rick --If you have space --let me knw! I'd love to play! jd = --_c527c7fb-c720-40c4-bff6-3d4b5293ff45_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hey=2C Rick --If you have space --let me knw! I'd love to play!
jd
= --_c527c7fb-c720-40c4-bff6-3d4b5293ff45_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 6 05:13:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDEA4183465; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 05:13:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1793347198==" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20120906051328.10902.41652.levelstar.mail@everest> Sender: Tyler Reply-to: Tyler From: Tyler Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2012 01:13:28 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Subject: Re: Y2K12 LOOPFEST Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118153 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 05:13:42 +0000 (UTC) Unable to read this email, please upgrage your mail client --===============1793347198== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm=20just=20so=20sorry=20that=20I'm=20not=20a=20USA=20travelor.=20I=20stay= =20right=20here=20in=20Michigan;=20maybe=20one=20day=20 I'll=20be=20a=20Terry=20Riley-type=20person=20and=20make=20thousands,=20if= =20not=20millions,=20of=20bucks,=20and=20come=20 to=20Santa=20Cruz.=20If=20I=20could=20meet=20Rick=20Walker,=20Bill=20Walker= ,=20maybe=20even=20Per=20Boysen=20 or=20the=20Chain=20Tape=20Collective=20founder=20...=20who=20knows?=20That= =20would=20truly=20be=20a=20looper's=20delight! Tyler=20Z On=20Wed,=205=20Sep=202012=2022:03:48=20-0700,=20Jeremy=20devros=20wrote: >Hey,=20Rick=20--If=20you=20have=20space=20--let=20me=20knw!=20I'd=20love= =20to=20play! >jd --===============1793347198==-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 6 05:22:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 74CEB183473; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 05:22:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2087439229==" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20120906052201.10902.34171.levelstar.mail@everest> Sender: Tyler Reply-to: Tyler From: Tyler Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2012 01:22:01 -0400 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Subject: help promoting Tapeville, anyone? Resent-Message-ID: <874AkD.A.KUC.HMDSQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118154 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 05:22:15 +0000 (UTC) Unable to read this email, please upgrage your mail client --===============2087439229== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello!=20Will=20any=20of=20you=20guys=20help=20me=20promote=20Tapeville,=20= my=20new=20mailing=20list=20where=20we=20 discuss=20use=20of=20tapes=20(especially=20cassette),=20including=20looping= ,=20converting=20to=20other=20formats,=20and=20funny=20 things=20you=20can=20do=20with=20fancy=20tape=20players?=20General=20tape= =20discussion!=20We=20might=20even=20share=20 tape-converted=20audio;=20it's=20like=20Looper's=20Delight=20for=20tapers.= =20Attention=20everyone;=20owner=20of=20sites=20 (maybe=20even=20livelooping.org),=20owners=20of=20blogs,=20and=20subscriber= s=20to=20other=20music-themed=20 mailing=20lists,=20or=20any=20kind=20of=20advertisers;=20tell=20them=20abou= t=20this=20discussion=20of=20cassette=20and=20reel=20(even=20 video!)=20tapes.=20Ask=20them=20to=20send=20an=20email=20to=20tape-request@= freelists.org=20with=20subscribe=20 in=20the=20subject=20and/or=20body.=20The=20posting=20address=20is=20obviou= s:=20tape@freelists.org Anyone=20willing=20to=20spread=20the=20word=20is=20necessary.=20Video=20blo= g=20on=20the=20Livelooping=20Youtube,=20please?=20 Give=20them=20my=20email=20in=20case=20of=20subscription=20errors. Tyler=20Z --===============2087439229==-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 6 14:02:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 72AC1183474; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 14:02:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 811969.29489.bm@omp1021.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1346940164; bh=b0R7l8p7j7Q7dEZvJ1c2mXl2gFGr8Erpda+bDnyW1VI=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ax8BM2bpjCfbnZO8jF/4kCadEd1jHkSltpIBNnUwKh+OFmzaycA4Q9CqgCUKw/3TTjr7FOfQrrytxm+0bYAgIPt5rgmVc+abgUmxoIWc03u+9EEuA51cFF3yujZlvWkCgky2ZanH6IrttCyf0S46//6EJfT4oOKeIUFtk0N7tJY= X-YMail-OSG: Lx439.AVM1lL_4G5CXhucfHAvPMuT1pCySBGvwUhZbQGGvM obReDiA8b_fLbft7hZEi7T0.M0x57jAKJG8ZYtfRY3cTctPNsROvBcNIUBsz QLPD8fjzYhJru9pNhDsV3o7bOKoe.VKgE7q_x7pKB7laZ3tBUaGS7iYN4lSS A5ylHkl7kRtR2Bt5orANwgyZmBLO1VDH8ngNE9VIJHUVrTkRFhYez61Cvr6m fUlfLQFuOBtgAIwHhNMjqPEDDb0cTgArtfL324myzJVY6ofc61XS6uOQRqkZ mebsqMtYqLhlmIJs10DlCbz1gsB.IM56wQCm4QIifkNgFHPq7xbDgO4kJdCz ixUx_TjFdambKyfKx3f0fZyGzpcZ9MiMbxU6PPjK7RALNTElOtviM0QC4pTg mnzYY7mNq4qk3WSNYOdDhdjINlP171x9g185Ji9xkEW.WZtj3EiNp5APPw5j DDoYWUNtCZTObPygtZA6tbcQ_PEZzHGrkumRILJw.2N.oJTnsoMr7Jk6jJSw VSUhz4VsrklIlnMG8gs8RVn7mzzrd2PBnvsjGh1LGt6SmNhxSlahebriCkZX L471y1lR1Qc4jPa.BagwL1QA8sVQSZhuZt0Hf8Sw_YZxdcILxqfNK6_akxg6 T7kmqnJBTPRlOGXU.lpZTWeu1kaolDZMjeesjiO5K5bOMOAW.saaJ4tqK1m8 elZv1pAM.q.ymPBHcc6o3CcxAsdcsxXzoB9M4VvDZFWHX X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 Message-ID: <1346940164.20401.YahooMailClassic@web84503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 07:02:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Mungenast Subject: Re: G-MAIL accounts won't take Y2K12 LOOPFEST communications: HELP!!! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-861880492-2022333750-1346940164=:20401" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118155 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 14:02:46 +0000 (UTC) ---861880492-2022333750-1346940164=:20401 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Still nothing on my verizon account, and I check my spam filter daily. I ha= ve not received any group-mail regarding schedule, backline, venue address,= etc. I'm not whining, mind you, I just want to know what everybody else kn= ows.I do not mean to be a pain. Tim Mungenast Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast --- On Wed, 9/5/12, Lindsey Walker wrote: From: Lindsey Walker Subject: Re: G-MAIL accounts won't take Y2K12 LOOPFEST communications: HELP= !!! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wednesday, September 5, 2012, 9:46 PM I got missive no. 2 just fine. =0ALindsey=0AOn Sep 5, 2012 4:04 PM, "Rick Walker" wr= ote: =0AI just found out that I can't send my =0APerformers Messages out to any gmail accounts. =0A =0ADoes anyone know what I can do to reach people? =0A =0AIt will kill me if I have to reach every single artist individually with= every single =0Aimportant announcement. =0A =0AAny advise? =0A =0AI cannot reach the following artists because of this G-mail lack of supp= ort =0Afor a large emailing: =0A =0A =0A... while talking to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com.: =0A =0A=0A=0ADATA =0A=0A =0A<<< 451-4.3.0 Multiple destination domains per transaction is unsupporte= d. =A0Please =0A<<< 451 4.3.0 try again. =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A=0A ---861880492-2022333750-1346940164=:20401 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Still nothing on my verizon account, and I ch= eck my spam filter daily. I have not received any group-mail regarding sche= dule, backline, venue address, etc. I'm not whining, mind you, I just want = to know what everybody else knows.
I do not mean to be a pain.

<= span style=3D"font-weight:bold;font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;"= >Tim Mungenast
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--- On Wed, 9/5/12, Lindsey Walker <lindsey.walker= @gmail.com> wrote:

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Subject: Re: G-MAIL accounts wo= n't take Y2K12 LOOPFEST communications: HELP!!!
To: Loopers-Delight@loop= ers-delight.com
Date: Wednesday, September 5, 2012, 9:46 PM

I got missive no. 2 just fine.
=0ALindsey

=0AOn Sep 5, 2012 4:04 PM, "Rick Walker" &= lt;looppool@cruzio.com&= gt; wrote:
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---861880492-2022333750-1346940164=:20401-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 6 22:11:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31328183466; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 22:11:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 344 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 22:11:19 UTC Message-ID: <20120906170534.139534t12i4wcw8e@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2012 17:05:34 -0500 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: I've received many artist bios, and I will be working on updating the website over the next few days.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3.11) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118156 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 22:11:19 +0000 (UTC) Hey Festival Loopers (pardon the listwide posting), I'll send each of you an email once I process the info you sent me, so that you know I've received it. If you don't hear from me by Saturday (sept/8) afternoon, please feel free to touch base with me, as it may be I did not receive your info. Thanks. -cpr From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 02:09:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BCE33183477; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 02:09:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 138907.6648.bm@omp1030.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1346983766; bh=Uasw3RDGt3GJ0KlprAJBs1duc2v0L12pHFo9xi5/YGw=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=b3BM9GbM12YvIA1ozBm2gnOvDQmauLR29C9fhT9ynhANn5qeqOHwK8OefyJ2PSjtbWJCwUCXMuyUbnIFvTmK7FHnGjwFqD1WawEqbNjOUlLcw2I4Zv6cqoKxQX8yELU1q1P4O/bgoTSL55c6+lEsSzNOjIE8WyZ4JOtk/yGZZZA= X-YMail-OSG: hAr156wVM1nXuTPHxZUGu.6Uve.YCg_5LjSjuQrc0XQJJJF 6f1BO4odxCyTh0CrVM1gp2tGX7g6H77f0g4v6Lwe7hcTdIeHwvbM_hilX_Sh 1yw5TIVWfZ0cSGTCQJEcBEoAbkuy_JS8t9zytfOwYOhGp4d1rq2m78y156pz LOOSSLjIm50JlQwbipwQKO3m4KN3rtvzOhsxRI5IbSBUIL0yM1DUU_PpKcRq FTFhqYG7GhKJbCvK7TP62gICcg4eKL97Ijxzgc0uWDOjVMOJ.JXB88AzIsph C2_hJplie6toIuxup4rmWkaDCrr329B4BBwHiS08neRu74pj_AnENLIKRSwN PcvbnGc9Pf5vj0KHDo5TSkwPm2e_tKYhpR7.X8aIajeicwHcp6hC.FcPEaHX xbPv9o6.l9_C0lv1weHtDzzWAKZq4xSKWylvHvaelfqiY0ihAgLioeu82u1F My4_aFtD9YeInbsH0aWdrxMRred9gjA8AIs.Wo29WjcFNdPH02xBn1HMBQrX CWC81BiXp7wF83aBGzqW_p92.1_3eTtLY7Kqal8968OD1in108ljVhU7yBo6 yfWWxBWz.nh38N5e4xnstq4yduD9xJgKGiVEbNQUAhfgN1EVZ0JbsY5y2UBu OeqPLgRlYY2p97nmUvI09.MOM75ub_SFnUVFfp8dGVAtYGQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 Message-ID: <1346983766.29983.YahooMailClassic@web84512.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 19:09:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Mungenast Subject: Re: I've received many artist bios, and I will be working on updating the website over the next few days.. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: "loop.pool" In-Reply-To: <20120906170534.139534t12i4wcw8e@webmail.musetrap.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118157 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 02:09:28 +0000 (UTC) This is the first I've heard about artist bios. I feel completely out of the loop, pardon the pun, on all things related to the festival. I feel like I'm in a subway and the announcer is providing important info but I can only make out every 3rd or 4th word. Tim Mungenast Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast --- On Thu, 9/6/12, cpr@musetrap.com wrote: > From: cpr@musetrap.com > Subject: I've received many artist bios, and I will be working on updating the website over the next few days.. > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Thursday, September 6, 2012, 6:05 PM > Hey Festival Loopers (pardon the > listwide posting), > > I'll send each of you an email once I process the info you > sent me, so that you know I've received it. If you don't > hear from me by Saturday (sept/8) afternoon, please feel > free to touch base with me, as it may be I did not receive > your info. Thanks. > > -cpr > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 02:32:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5111183479; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 02:32:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gac2WbL3CFLc678AZpqrwenLsXjvVimnu3GxSXOVCSQ=; b=C4lS8bgpIr29E78IZLlmM8lC7sDOgkVFsNg4UljRPsrRwtG0KiZVXqsS4//WpOy9yq WkztrFlmrziEcABLM1MzsVrd/UTFWSp30gUNkzCFSS+aZB8sEKRK7Rt18oJYf4C7+5EQ JTAtRtbrjJXaKEC+o4zUivg9ml/TmwxFruQLTqr9GAo/v9GHum9oCql8KW8nrchhcPyt yph8mOZ8W9SCO9f1fLiUyBo9wXm9vG7sEKeXMXMfkhs1HVDplOt5l3tBbAOr+R+FIvTn SGN7dlKclpauXcnVHkkQsL9Qe0Sx8DigkwW/M85geb4hJtyq7tONReOvAA4TBffeQjN/ TlZg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 19:32:27 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Performing with a dancer From: "kay'lon rushing" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043c09623aeb9704c9136bc8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118158 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 02:32:28 +0000 (UTC) --f46d043c09623aeb9704c9136bc8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My brother and I are collaborating for a talent show. Some of you might remember me posting about my first looping performance on stage last year. Well this is the same place. He dances, I loop. The scary part is I dont know how to make this work. He does dance moves such as michael jackson or usher. I need some advice on being able to perform something danceable because i find it a little tough to make something that changes a lot to keep the audience's interest. --f46d043c09623aeb9704c9136bc8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

My brother and I are collaborating for a talent show. Some of you might = remember me posting about my first looping performance on stage last year. = Well this is the same place. He dances, I loop. The scary part is I dont kn= ow how to make this work. He does dance moves such as michael jackson or us= her. I need some advice on being able to perform something danceable becaus= e i find it a little tough to make something that changes a lot to keep the= audience's interest.

--f46d043c09623aeb9704c9136bc8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 03:40:31 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C332183474; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 03:40:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1F4E358B-41A1-41FA-99A0-40C5A0ECFF40@ubergadget.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Revfever Subject: Fripp news Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 20:40:28 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host5.webserveralpha.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ubergadget.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118159 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 03:40:31 +0000 (UTC) Intense. But, I'll wager he will back to making music after a certain period of time. How could someone like him not do so? :-) http://www.dprp.net/wp/?p=7155 Cheers- Rev.Fever Portlandia http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental1 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental2 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/skult From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 03:54:14 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A8A6A183475; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 03:54:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=nO85tBZSzpUEmd0fapbYx5UUctydnEFXS4qZjqZofo8AAv/q6jw4kSiUv4suAjb7; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1F4E358B-41A1-41FA-99A0-40C5A0ECFF40@ubergadget.com> References: <1F4E358B-41A1-41FA-99A0-40C5A0ECFF40@ubergadget.com> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 23:53:58 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Fripp news Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79ba69f78f6aca9000d7180fe3690ebb29350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118160 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 03:54:14 +0000 (UTC) I heard he was fired.... >Intense. But, I'll wager he will back to making music after a >certain period of time. How could someone like him not do so? :-) > >http://www.dprp.net/wp/?p=7155 > >Cheers- >Rev.Fever >Portlandia >http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever >http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental1 >http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental2 >http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/skult -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 04:18:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F09BD183465; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 04:18:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 469 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 04:18:10 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=MtQcqepvwO/ywkUQqD9Rf0nWE3AYKeOjWwr1dDHoheMivwA56VbYzibjnKtR7zdq; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <32856012.1346991011453.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 21:10:11 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Fripp news Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd4846f30961f729d014f52ed4247f800fde10da127345fe7d85350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.36 Resent-Message-ID: <-3kxqD.A._xE.CWXSQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118161 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 04:18:11 +0000 (UTC) maybe he should turn the page and just play 'live' like i prefer. -----Original Message----- >From: Charles Zwicky >Sent: Sep 6, 2012 8:53 PM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: Fripp news > >I heard he was fired.... > >>Intense. But, I'll wager he will back to making music after a >>certain period of time. How could someone like him not do so? :-) >> >>http://www.dprp.net/wp/?p=7155 >> >>Cheers- >>Rev.Fever >>Portlandia >>http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever >>http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental1 >>http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental2 >>http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/skult > > >-- > >... >http://www.zmix.net > >http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > >http://albumcredits.com/zmix > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 05:33:14 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E59A183474; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 05:33:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_9871c93f-67a1-4831-87d9-8a35a850b940_" X-Originating-IP: [86.165.215.189] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: Fripp news Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 05:33:11 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <1F4E358B-41A1-41FA-99A0-40C5A0ECFF40@ubergadget.com> References: <1F4E358B-41A1-41FA-99A0-40C5A0ECFF40@ubergadget.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Sep 2012 05:33:12.0305 (UTC) FILETIME=[4598A610:01CD8CBA] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118162 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 05:33:13 +0000 (UTC) --_9871c93f-67a1-4831-87d9-8a35a850b940_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So he's giving up making music today over the release of music he made deca= des ago. Many of artists work for little or no financial reward because tha= t is their raison d'etre.Seems odd to me. G Gareth Whittock=2C sound artist: garethwhittock.co.uk > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > From: revfever@ubergadget.com > Subject: Fripp news > Date: Thu=2C 6 Sep 2012 20:40:28 -0700 >=20 > Intense. But=2C I'll wager he will back to making music after a certain = =20 > period of time. How could someone like him not do so? :-) >=20 > http://www.dprp.net/wp/?p=3D7155 >=20 > Cheers- > Rev.Fever > Portlandia > http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental1 > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental2 > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/skult >=20 >=20 = --_9871c93f-67a1-4831-87d9-8a35a850b940_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
So he's giving up making music today over the release of music he made deca= des ago. =3B
Many of artists work for little or no financial reward= because that is their raison d'etre.
Seems odd to me.

G

Gareth Whittock=2C sound artist: garethwhittock.co.uk

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>=3B From: revfever@ubergadget.com
>=3B Subject: Fripp news=
>=3B Date: Thu=2C 6 Sep 2012 20:40:28 -0700
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>=3B Inte= nse. But=2C I'll wager he will back to making music after a certain
&g= t=3B period of time. How could someone like him not do so? :-)
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= --_9871c93f-67a1-4831-87d9-8a35a850b940_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 05:44:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E667B183475; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 05:44:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=doGSE2FoPpUVolQzlbD1i9ztv2sGddno6YUoNvcSqEw=; b=cetwjtCaoFT1SBXUHaPxcIfLzRX1xo29bOPhZkt8UaUW0ZMrpcjRkcQGc2W8TnRZUd Fgr/74cH9MvIlC9xmk6CT+qsxocnS+guUL4DEjQtsR5B0AM2hD1Tyq1dzpAlHQfuPBxI gvsbEklV0+HVn+fD1TkTgeCTFZ35GMFljggqtCwi4NRkN7fv3ug0cYk82PxoBFl1UOg8 Phq90gEf7vZuw96ElNn9AUQamWQTINWkU5pGU626k6POFZSRZCLfnMdsBslAONY0rNbb m3gtc8+ZM3++sUpQe5Pvppg56Z7ysYWcc2znDsjR44ORbMwzFyeFEW4kCwcCj+rw0w8O Qcmg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1F4E358B-41A1-41FA-99A0-40C5A0ECFF40@ubergadget.com> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 22:44:10 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Fripp news From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118163 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 05:44:11 +0000 (UTC) I love, adore, the music of Robert Fripp. But I'm getting the impression he's a bit prickly. On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 10:33 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > So he's giving up making music today over the release of music he made > decades ago. > Many of artists work for little or no financial reward because that is their > raison d'etre. > Seems odd to me. > > G > > Gareth Whittock, sound artist: garethwhittock.co.uk > >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> From: revfever@ubergadget.com >> Subject: Fripp news >> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 20:40:28 -0700 > >> >> Intense. But, I'll wager he will back to making music after a certain >> period of time. How could someone like him not do so? :-) >> >> http://www.dprp.net/wp/?p=7155 >> >> Cheers- >> Rev.Fever >> Portlandia >> http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever >> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental1 >> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental2 >> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/skult >> >> -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 05:49:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E8E3A183463; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 05:49:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_654e6447-6ab7-4b43-a9e4-8ea0dba95f92_" X-Originating-IP: [86.165.215.189] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: Fripp news Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 05:49:34 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <1F4E358B-41A1-41FA-99A0-40C5A0ECFF40@ubergadget.com>,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Sep 2012 05:49:34.0558 (UTC) FILETIME=[8F108FE0:01CD8CBC] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118164 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 05:49:40 +0000 (UTC) --_654e6447-6ab7-4b43-a9e4-8ea0dba95f92_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Me too. I also love some of his output but get the feeling that I would be = uncomfortable in his company. That's why I always have to turn down his inv= itations to dinner parties.. G Gareth Whittock=2C sound artist: garethwhittock.co.uk > Date: Thu=2C 6 Sep 2012 22:44:10 -0700 > Subject: Re: Fripp news > From: simart@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > I love=2C adore=2C the music of Robert Fripp. But I'm getting the > impression he's a bit prickly. >=20 > On Thu=2C Sep 6=2C 2012 at 10:33 PM=2C Gareth Whittock > wrote: > > So he's giving up making music today over the release of music he made > > decades ago. > > Many of artists work for little or no financial reward because that is = their > > raison d'etre. > > Seems odd to me. > > > > G > > > > Gareth Whittock=2C sound artist: garethwhittock.co.uk > > > >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >> From: revfever@ubergadget.com > >> Subject: Fripp news > >> Date: Thu=2C 6 Sep 2012 20:40:28 -0700 > > > >> > >> Intense. But=2C I'll wager he will back to making music after a certai= n > >> period of time. How could someone like him not do so? :-) > >> > >> http://www.dprp.net/wp/?p=3D7155 > >> > >> Cheers- > >> Rev.Fever > >> Portlandia > >> http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever > >> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental1 > >> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental2 > >> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/skult > >> > >> >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com >=20 = --_654e6447-6ab7-4b43-a9e4-8ea0dba95f92_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Me too. I also love some of his output but get the feeling that I would be = uncomfortable in his company. That's why I always have to turn down his inv= itations to dinner parties..

G

Gareth Whit= tock=2C sound artist: garethwhittock.co.uk

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= --_654e6447-6ab7-4b43-a9e4-8ea0dba95f92_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 08:45:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A18D7183476; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 08:45:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 08:45:13 UTC References: <1F4E358B-41A1-41FA-99A0-40C5A0ECFF40@ubergadget.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-236AB360-DD44-498D-A8FE-F64FDBCAB771 Message-Id: <227C8857-3ACF-4AB4-93F1-B014EF3C0073@grubmah.com> Cc: "" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) From: Mark Hamburg Subject: Re: Fripp news Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 01:29:55 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118165 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 08:45:13 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-236AB360-DD44-498D-A8FE-F64FDBCAB771 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have heard that Fripp mostly makes money from real estate. I suspect this is mostly a matter of being fed up with dealing with the musi= c industry. To the extent that he wants to make music, he may be making the c= all that it's simpler and less stressful to just do it at home for himself a= nd Toyah and write off the industry. Mark On Sep 6, 2012, at 10:33 PM, Gareth Whittock wrot= e: > So he's giving up making music today over the release of music he made dec= ades ago.=20 > Many of artists work for little or no financial reward because that is the= ir raison d'etre. > Seems odd to me. >=20 > G >=20 > Gareth Whittock, sound artist: garethwhittock.co.uk >=20 > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > From: revfever@ubergadget.com > > Subject: Fripp news > > Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 20:40:28 -0700 > >=20 > > Intense. But, I'll wager he will back to making music after a certain=20= > > period of time. How could someone like him not do so? :-) > >=20 > > http://www.dprp.net/wp/?p=3D7155 > >=20 > > Cheers- > > Rev.Fever > > Portlandia > > http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever > > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental1 > > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental2 > > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/skult > >=20 > >=20 --Apple-Mail-236AB360-DD44-498D-A8FE-F64FDBCAB771 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
I have heard that Fripp mo= stly makes money from real estate.

I suspect this i= s mostly a matter of being fed up with dealing with the music industry. To t= he extent that he wants to make music, he may be making the call that it's s= impler and less stressful to just do it at home for himself and Toyah and wr= ite off the industry.

Mark

On Sep 6, 2012, a= t 10:33 PM, Gareth Whittock <= buddhamachine@live.co.uk> wrote:

So he's giving up making music today over the release of music he made decad= es ago. 
Many of artists work for little or no financial reward bec= ause that is their raison d'etre.
Seems odd to me.

<= div>G

Gareth Whittock, sound artist: garethwhittock.co.uk

> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> From: revfever@ubergadget.com
> Subject= : Fripp news
> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 20:40:28 -0700
>
> I= ntense. But, I'll wager he will back to making music after a certain
&g= t; period of time. How could someone like him not do so? :-)
>
&g= t; http://www.dprp.net/wp/?p=3D= 7155
>
> Cheers-
> Rev.Fever
> Portlandia
&g= t; http://www.spiritone.com/~r= vfever
> http://ww= w.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental1
> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental2
> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/skult
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= --Apple-Mail-236AB360-DD44-498D-A8FE-F64FDBCAB771-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 08:59:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A0BE183474; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 08:59:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <3F3781E00E7E4CFEBA27BBFA90BBAC7D@SgtephPC> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <1F4E358B-41A1-41FA-99A0-40C5A0ECFF40@ubergadget.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Fripp news Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 04:59:09 -0400 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002B_01CD8CB5.83D7F570" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3555.308 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118166 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 08:59:10 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01CD8CB5.83D7F570 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That=E2=80=99s a matter of choice. I=E2=80=99ve been thinking a lot = about whether =E2=80=98touring=E2=80=99 is a leftover construct of an = old business model forced upon performers by the big music companies, = promoting the music created by artists, but providing not a heck of a = lot of income to them. On many levels this just keeps the performer = busy, while someone else reaps the rewards the performers deserve... and = guaranteeing a continued existence for dinosaurs to continue deal with = material produced by others. I=E2=80=99m not sure I want to cooperate = with such an idea myself. I don=E2=80=99t understand why anyone but a = gearhead would be interested in watching me twiddle settings and = performing as such. My definition of the art involves using video works = that accompany my music; I think it=E2=80=99s more interesting and most = importantly it=E2=80=99s my art, which compromises to nothing but = broadband speed, my own time, and equipment maintenance. I=E2=80=99m = sure many folks on this list enjoy the process of live performance, but = you have to include the elements of takedown-setup, stolen-damaged = instruments and equipment, iffy venues and operators, lots of schlepping = it all around, questionable nutrition and the inevitable dealing with = people who just want to make money off you. It doesn=E2=80=99t balance = out for me on any level, and stinks of an old business model that only = works for a select few who must fill stadiums in order to break even, = and charge the people who come to see them criminal amounts of money for = a ticket. I think the old business model=E2=80=99s been dead a few years = already. We DON=E2=80=99T have to follow it any more in order to = produce, record, or sell our own material. But that=E2=80=99s just the = opinion of someone who=E2=80=99s gotten a new start in life, and = can=E2=80=99t afford at 55 to mess with =E2=80=98touring=E2=80=99 as = such. From: Gareth Whittock=20 Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 1:33 AM To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Subject: RE: Fripp news So he's giving up making music today over the release of music he made = decades ago. =20 Many of artists work for little or no financial reward because that is = their raison d'etre.=20 Seems odd to me. G Gareth Whittock, sound artist: garethwhittock.co.uk > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > From: revfever@ubergadget.com > Subject: Fripp news > Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 20:40:28 -0700 >=20 > Intense. But, I'll wager he will back to making music after a certain=20 > period of time. How could someone like him not do so? :-) >=20 > http://www.dprp.net/wp/?p=3D7155 >=20 > Cheers- > Rev.Fever > Portlandia > http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental1 > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental2 > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/skult >=20 >=20 ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01CD8CB5.83D7F570 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That=E2=80=99s a matter of choice.  I=E2=80=99ve been thinking = a lot about whether=20 =E2=80=98touring=E2=80=99 is a leftover construct of an old business = model forced upon=20 performers by the big music companies, promoting the music created by = artists,=20 but providing not a heck of a lot of income to them.  On many = levels this=20 just keeps the performer busy, while someone else reaps the rewards the=20 performers deserve... and guaranteeing a continued existence for = dinosaurs to=20 continue deal with material produced by others.  I=E2=80=99m not = sure I want to=20 cooperate with such an idea myself.  I don=E2=80=99t understand why = anyone but a=20 gearhead would be interested in watching me twiddle settings and = performing as=20 such.  My definition of the art involves using video works that = accompany=20 my music; I think it=E2=80=99s more interesting and most importantly = it=E2=80=99s my art, which=20 compromises to nothing but broadband speed, my own time, and equipment=20 maintenance.  I=E2=80=99m sure many folks on this list enjoy the = process of live=20 performance, but you have to include the elements of takedown-setup,=20 stolen-damaged instruments and equipment, iffy venues and operators, = lots of=20 schlepping it all around, questionable nutrition and the inevitable = dealing with=20 people who just want to make money off you.  It doesn=E2=80=99t = balance out for me=20 on any level, and stinks of an old business model that only works for a = select=20 few who must fill stadiums in order to break even, and charge the people = who=20 come to see them criminal amounts of money for a ticket. I think the old = business model=E2=80=99s been dead a few years already.  We = DON=E2=80=99T have to follow it=20 any more in order to produce, record, or sell our own material.  = But that=E2=80=99s=20 just the opinion of someone who=E2=80=99s gotten a new start in life, = and can=E2=80=99t afford=20 at 55 to mess with =E2=80=98touring=E2=80=99 as such.
 
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 1:33 AM
Subject: RE: Fripp news
 
So he's giving up making music today over the release of = music he=20 made decades ago. =20
Many of artists work for little or no financial reward because that = is=20 their raison d'etre.=20
Seems odd to me.
 
G

Gareth Whittock, sound artist: garethwhittock.co.uk

> To:=20 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> From:=20 revfever@ubergadget.com
> Subject: Fripp news
> Date: Thu, 6 = Sep=20 2012 20:40:28 -0700
>
> Intense. But, I'll wager he will = back to=20 making music after a certain
> period of time. How could someone = like him=20 not do so? :-)
>
> http://www.dprp.net/wp/?p=3D7155
> =
>=20 Cheers-
> Rev.Fever
> Portlandia
>=20 http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever
>=20 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental1
>=20 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental2
>=20 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/skult
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------=_NextPart_000_002B_01CD8CB5.83D7F570-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 09:30:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 87D90183465; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 09:30:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_06250f48-d8c7-4a84-a19c-db6a4965a665_" X-Originating-IP: [217.92.117.212] From: Sergio G Sender: To: Subject: RE: Performing with a dancer Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 09:30:22 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Sep 2012 09:30:22.0166 (UTC) FILETIME=[67411F60:01CD8CDB] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118167 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 09:30:23 +0000 (UTC) --_06250f48-d8c7-4a84-a19c-db6a4965a665_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well=2C when I go dancing I generally dance Techno=2C Minimal (you know=2C = the German Minimal)=2C Electro=2C DnB=2C Goa... I often find myself doing sort of Tetris movements in Jackson's style.When = I started the livelooping project I had in mind more funny stuff like the G= erman Ricoloop.Then I went spontaneously more on the Techno Beatbox so I ev= en had to change looper because the Rang III does not allow a very quick co= ntrol over the loops (dj style).All this is to tell you=2C that I would do = DnB=2C Breakbeats=2C with touches of goa/trance/techno=2C and even moment o= f calm minimal eventually. But it is impossible to really give you the best advice if I do not know wh= at your brother wants!You should ask him which kind of mood/atmosphere he w= ants.I did theater many years. That is or should be my profession (it is 10= years now=2C that I don't).I can help you a bit.But you must know if your = brother wants something more 80's=2C something more funny=2C something more= electronic=2C something more dark=2C or sunny=2C etc.You can adapt Jackson= 's style of dancing to many music=2C as far as they have a nice rhythm with= variations and breaks. Let me know. Ser Date: Thu=2C 6 Sep 2012 19:32:27 -0700 Subject: Performing with a dancer From: k3zz21@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com My brother and I are collaborating for a talent show. Some of you might rem= ember me posting about my first looping performance on stage last year. Wel= l this is the same place. He dances=2C I loop. The scary part is I dont kno= w how to make this work. He does dance moves such as michael jackson or ush= er. I need some advice on being able to perform something danceable because= i find it a little tough to make something that changes a lot to keep the = audience's interest. = --_06250f48-d8c7-4a84-a19c-db6a4965a665_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well=2C when I go dancing I generally dance Techno=2C Minimal (you know=2C = the German Minimal)=2C Electro=2C DnB=2C Goa...
I often find myself doin= g sort of Tetris movements in Jackson's style.
When I started the livel= ooping project I had in mind more funny stuff like the German Ricoloop.
Then =3BI went =3Bspontaneously =3Bmore on the Techno Be= atbox so I even had to change looper because the Rang III does not allow a = very quick control over the loops (dj style).
All =3Bthis is = to tell you=2C that I would do DnB=2C Breakbeats=2C with touches of goa/tra= nce/techno=2C and even moment of calm minimal eventually.

But it is impossible to really give you the best advice if I do not= know what your brother wants!
You =3Bshould ask him which ki= nd of mood/atmosphere =3Bhe wants.
I did theater many years.&= nbsp=3BThat =3Bis or should be my profession (it is 10 years now=2C tha= t I don't).
I can help you a bit.
But you must know if = your brother wants something more 80's=2C something more funny=2C something= more electronic=2C something more dark=2C or sunny=2C etc.
You c= an adapt Jackson's style of dancing to many music=2C as far as they have a = nice =3Brhythm =3Bwith variations and breaks.

<= div>Let me know.

Ser
Date: Thu=2C 6 Sep 2012 19:32:27 -= 0700
Subject: Performing with a dancer
From: k3zz21@gmail.com
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

My brother and I are collaborati= ng for a talent show. Some of you might remember me posting about my first = looping performance on stage last year. Well this is the same place. He dan= ces=2C I loop. The scary part is I dont know how to make this work. He does= dance moves such as michael jackson or usher. I need some advice on being = able to perform something danceable because i find it a little tough to mak= e something that changes a lot to keep the audience's interest.
= --_06250f48-d8c7-4a84-a19c-db6a4965a665_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 09:33:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB80C183477; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 09:33:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pw4v4iUQlxDzYSyTNlu+XxzxZWr2lIcvkCVX9S/aGkE=; b=IYrg1HHqepaz75L9rdYdnuqlTFV1KkewD01Jo6pPrBD9uA5pLjAG4T75pjKTbD/KK9 33I7bgh3owPD19ryf4il4cczqao/KS//zQ3rQR1umgEWEa9GF614rV0kivz91284wY1y RfvX2dfzEhjLSV8/oIrH4zChIeKpRJiNiriR3L1zRhoOXNxXQiKW4+j1xoqI6uYjiqJb pBGMtSmauMyvG1y5WRfNupvjuVQ9FKQJE8NZ9QXd0t37HYaY3cLIMdFHPYYK7v0/8sqj 6wzzG1HAW9y4XJw8zwZL/wBpia50LAOw+rH9N0bX+ZJ4jWL1I8gT5PwJqR/2SYiD/n2A /n9g== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3F3781E00E7E4CFEBA27BBFA90BBAC7D@SgtephPC> References: <1F4E358B-41A1-41FA-99A0-40C5A0ECFF40@ubergadget.com> <3F3781E00E7E4CFEBA27BBFA90BBAC7D@SgtephPC> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 11:33:35 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Fripp news From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118168 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 09:33:36 +0000 (UTC) "The old business model" was based on the fact that records sold well. This made it possible for a record label to organise tours that did not make any money except for the money generated as future record sales generated by the concerts. Funnily many of today's musicians see touring as "the new business model" and you can in fact make money from it if you keep costs down and plan it as a business that has to make ends meet. Not that the economy in D-I-Y touring has grown better, it is rather like it's what we have left after the decline of the CD market. The few times I've been able to cram gigs into a tour, like for example playing 20 times in a 30 days span, I have always come out with enough money to buy a great new instrument (since I tend to keep some on-the-side job too, thus not having to put all the touring money into food and rent). As I read that article on Fripp he was quoted saying he is giving up making music to focus on the business. I understood that as he is becoming his own management to keep following up legal rights to his music of the past. Reminds me of the tendency among record labels to stop seeking out new great music in favor of focusing on dealing with the legal rights to their back catalogue. What new will ever come to a world where every one just keeps suing everyone else? The daily life of any professional musician is about 90 percent administration and 10 percent music making. Maybe Fripp just got bored with the admin side not being handles well (by whatever management he used to work with) and thinks he can do it better by himself? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > That=E2=80=99s a matter of choice. I=E2=80=99ve been thinking a lot abou= t whether =E2=80=98touring=E2=80=99 > is a leftover construct of an old business model forced upon performers b= y > the big music companies, promoting the music created by artists, but > providing not a heck of a lot of income to them. On many levels this jus= t > keeps the performer busy, while someone else reaps the rewards the > performers deserve... and guaranteeing a continued existence for dinosaur= s > to continue deal with material produced by others. I=E2=80=99m not sure = I want to > cooperate with such an idea myself. I don=E2=80=99t understand why anyon= e but a > gearhead would be interested in watching me twiddle settings and performi= ng > as such. My definition of the art involves using video works that accomp= any > my music; I think it=E2=80=99s more interesting and most importantly it= =E2=80=99s my art, > which compromises to nothing but broadband speed, my own time, and equipm= ent > maintenance. I=E2=80=99m sure many folks on this list enjoy the process = of live > performance, but you have to include the elements of takedown-setup, > stolen-damaged instruments and equipment, iffy venues and operators, lots= of > schlepping it all around, questionable nutrition and the inevitable deali= ng > with people who just want to make money off you. It doesn=E2=80=99t bala= nce out for > me on any level, and stinks of an old business model that only works for = a > select few who must fill stadiums in order to break even, and charge the > people who come to see them criminal amounts of money for a ticket. I thi= nk > the old business model=E2=80=99s been dead a few years already. We DON= =E2=80=99T have to > follow it any more in order to produce, record, or sell our own material. > But that=E2=80=99s just the opinion of someone who=E2=80=99s gotten a new= start in life, and > can=E2=80=99t afford at 55 to mess with =E2=80=98touring=E2=80=99 as such= . > > From: Gareth Whittock > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 1:33 AM > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: RE: Fripp news > > So he's giving up making music today over the release of music he made > decades ago. > Many of artists work for little or no financial reward because that is th= eir > raison d'etre. > Seems odd to me. > > G > > Gareth Whittock, sound artist: garethwhittock.co.uk > >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> From: revfever@ubergadget.com >> Subject: Fripp news >> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 20:40:28 -0700 >> >> Intense. But, I'll wager he will back to making music after a certain >> period of time. How could someone like him not do so? :-) >> >> http://www.dprp.net/wp/?p=3D7155 >> >> Cheers- >> Rev.Fever >> Portlandia >> http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever >> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental1 >> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental2 >> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/skult >> >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 09:47:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C5C2183475; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 09:47:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 10:46:46 +0100 From: Philip Conway To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Fripp news Message-ID: <83BF6112490AB3170952F475@epi-pc372.epi.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <1F4E358B-41A1-41FA-99A0-40C5A0ECFF40@ubergadget.com> <3F3781E00E7E4CFEBA27BBFA90BBAC7D@SgtephPC> Originator-Info: login-token=Mulberry:017IMvS1zmZ33qtnW0LWHnlLkrsZ6uGlywor0tspezIl+xkK7l+aA=; token_authority=mailto:postmaster@bristol.ac.uk X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118169 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 09:47:23 +0000 (UTC) "I understood that as he is becoming his own management to keep following up legal rights to his music of the past. Reminds me of the tendency among record labels to stop seeking out new great music in favor of focusing on dealing with the legal rights to their back catalogue." Economists call this rent, or rentierism. The extraction of value not by producing anything new but by squeezing what has already been produced. Actually creating new stuff entails risks and overheads; extracting rents just requires a small army of lawyers and some posh offices. That's 21st Century capitalism for you - all gain, no risk! Philip. --On 07 September 2012 11:33 +0200 Per Boysen wrote: > "The old business model" was based on the fact that records sold well. > This made it possible for a record label to organise tours that did > not make any money except for the money generated as future record > sales generated by the concerts. > > Funnily many of today's musicians see touring as "the new business > model" and you can in fact make money from it if you keep costs down > and plan it as a business that has to make ends meet. Not that the > economy in D-I-Y touring has grown better, it is rather like it's what > we have left after the decline of the CD market. The few times I've > been able to cram gigs into a tour, like for example playing 20 times > in a 30 days span, I have always come out with enough money to buy a > great new instrument (since I tend to keep some on-the-side job too, > thus not having to put all the touring money into food and rent). > > As I read that article on Fripp he was quoted saying he is giving up > making music to focus on the business. I understood that as he is > becoming his own management to keep following up legal rights to his > music of the past. Reminds me of the tendency among record labels to > stop seeking out new great music in favor of focusing on dealing with > the legal rights to their back catalogue. What new will ever come to a > world where every one just keeps suing everyone else? > > The daily life of any professional musician is about 90 percent > administration and 10 percent music making. Maybe Fripp just got bored > with the admin side not being handles well (by whatever management he > used to work with) and thinks he can do it better by himself? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Stephen Goodman > wrote: >> That's a matter of choice. I've been thinking a lot about whether >> 'touring' is a leftover construct of an old business model forced >> upon performers by the big music companies, promoting the music created >> by artists, but providing not a heck of a lot of income to them. On >> many levels this just keeps the performer busy, while someone else reaps >> the rewards the performers deserve... and guaranteeing a continued >> existence for dinosaurs to continue deal with material produced by >> others. I'm not sure I want to cooperate with such an idea myself. I >> don't understand why anyone but a gearhead would be interested in >> watching me twiddle settings and performing as such. My definition of >> the art involves using video works that accompany my music; I think >> it's more interesting and most importantly it's my art, which >> compromises to nothing but broadband speed, my own time, and equipment >> maintenance. I'm sure many folks on this list enjoy the process of >> live performance, but you have to include the elements of takedown-setup, >> stolen-damaged instruments and equipment, iffy venues and operators, >> lots of schlepping it all around, questionable nutrition and the >> inevitable dealing with people who just want to make money off you. It >> doesn't balance out for me on any level, and stinks of an old business >> model that only works for a select few who must fill stadiums in order >> to break even, and charge the people who come to see them criminal >> amounts of money for a ticket. I think the old business model's been >> dead a few years already. We DON'T have to follow it any more in >> order to produce, record, or sell our own material. But that's just >> the opinion of someone who's gotten a new start in life, and can't >> afford at 55 to mess with 'touring' as such. >> >> From: Gareth Whittock >> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 1:33 AM >> To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: RE: Fripp news >> >> So he's giving up making music today over the release of music he made >> decades ago. >> Many of artists work for little or no financial reward because that is >> their raison d'etre. >> Seems odd to me. >> >> G >> >> Gareth Whittock, sound artist: garethwhittock.co.uk >> >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> From: revfever@ubergadget.com >>> Subject: Fripp news >>> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 20:40:28 -0700 >>> >>> Intense. But, I'll wager he will back to making music after a certain >>> period of time. How could someone like him not do so? :-) >>> >>> http://www.dprp.net/wp/?p=7155 >>> >>> Cheers- >>> Rev.Fever >>> Portlandia >>> http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever >>> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental1 >>> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental2 >>> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/skult >>> >>> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 10:18:03 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20B4D183475; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 10:18:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_80005369-7a38-4937-bbba-9b8f2eae3576_" X-Originating-IP: [217.92.117.212] From: Sergio G Sender: To: Subject: RE: Performing with a dancer Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 10:18:01 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Sep 2012 10:18:01.0359 (UTC) FILETIME=[0F7759F0:01CD8CE2] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118170 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 10:18:02 +0000 (UTC) --_80005369-7a38-4937-bbba-9b8f2eae3576_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It could be interesting also to know how long must be the performance. I am= reading now "talent show"=2C so I can imagine you just need to prepare ver= y short things and not entire long performances.If it was a long performanc= e=2C of course the best thing would be to do different things during the sh= ow=2C so to have different atmospheres=2C different rhythms. It is not nece= ssary to have a "story" (I mean something with a beginning=2C evolution and= end)=2C but it could be nice to at least have an idea of what your brothe= r wants to communicate=2C or what you both want to communicate/express.You = can still work with improvisations/jam=2C and then the "meaning" would just= be what the music and movements spontaneously transmit. Still=2C in some m= oment you will have to fix it=2C clean it=2C and give it some kind of form. Let us know. From: simpliflying@gmail.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Performing with a dancer Date: Fri=2C 7 Sep 2012 09:30:22 +0000 Well=2C when I go dancing I generally dance Techno=2C Minimal (you know=2C = the German Minimal)=2C Electro=2C DnB=2C Goa... I often find myself doing sort of Tetris movements in Jackson's style.When = I started the livelooping project I had in mind more funny stuff like the G= erman Ricoloop.Then I went spontaneously more on the Techno Beatbox so I ev= en had to change looper because the Rang III does not allow a very quick co= ntrol over the loops (dj style).All this is to tell you=2C that I would do = DnB=2C Breakbeats=2C with touches of goa/trance/techno=2C and even moment o= f calm minimal eventually. But it is impossible to really give you the best advice if I do not know wh= at your brother wants!You should ask him which kind of mood/atmosphere he w= ants.I did theater many years. That is or should be my profession (it is 10= years now=2C that I don't).I can help you a bit.But you must know if your = brother wants something more 80's=2C something more funny=2C something more= electronic=2C something more dark=2C or sunny=2C etc.You can adapt Jackson= 's style of dancing to many music=2C as far as they have a nice rhythm with= variations and breaks. Let me know. Ser Date: Thu=2C 6 Sep 2012 19:32:27 -0700 Subject: Performing with a dancer From: k3zz21@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com My brother and I are collaborating for a talent show. Some of you might rem= ember me posting about my first looping performance on stage last year. Wel= l this is the same place. He dances=2C I loop. The scary part is I dont kno= w how to make this work. He does dance moves such as michael jackson or ush= er. I need some advice on being able to perform something danceable because= i find it a little tough to make something that changes a lot to keep the = audience's interest. = --_80005369-7a38-4937-bbba-9b8f2eae3576_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It could be interesting also to know how long must be the performance. I am= reading now "talent show"=2C so I can imagine you just need to prepare ver= y short things and not entire long performances.
If it was a long perfo= rmance=2C of course the best thing would be to do different things during t= he show=2C so to have different atmospheres=2C different rhythms. It is not= necessary to have a "story" (I mean something with a beginning=2C evolutio= n and end)=2C but it could be  =3Bnice to at least have an idea of what= your brother wants to communicate=2C or what you both want to communicate/= express.
You can still work with improvisations/jam=2C and then t= he "meaning" would just be what the music and movements =3Bspontaneousl= y =3Btransmit. Still=2C in some moment you will have to fix it=2C clean= it=2C and give it some kind of form.

Let us know.=

= From: simpliflying@gmail.com
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
= Subject: RE: Performing with a dancer
Date: Fri=2C 7 Sep 2012 09:30:22 += 0000

Well=2C when I go dancing I generally dance Techno=2C Minimal (you know=2C = the German Minimal)=2C Electro=2C DnB=2C Goa...
I often find myself doin= g sort of Tetris movements in Jackson's style.
When I started the livel= ooping project I had in mind more funny stuff like the German Ricoloop.
Then =3BI went =3Bspontaneously =3Bmore on the Techno Be= atbox so I even had to change looper because the Rang III does not allow a = very quick control over the loops (dj style).
All =3Bthis is = to tell you=2C that I would do DnB=2C Breakbeats=2C with touches of goa/tra= nce/techno=2C and even moment of calm minimal eventually.

But it is impossible to really give you the best advice if I do not= know what your brother wants!
You =3Bshould ask him which ki= nd of mood/atmosphere =3Bhe wants.
I did theater many years.&= nbsp=3BThat =3Bis or should be my profession (it is 10 years now=2C tha= t I don't).
I can help you a bit.
But you must know if = your brother wants something more 80's=2C something more funny=2C something= more electronic=2C something more dark=2C or sunny=2C etc.
You c= an adapt Jackson's style of dancing to many music=2C as far as they have a = nice =3Brhythm =3Bwith variations and breaks.

<= div>Let me know.

Ser
Date: Thu=2C 6 Sep 2012 19:3= 2:27 -0700
Subject: Performing with a dancer
From: k3zz21@gmail.comTo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

My brother and I are colla= borating for a talent show. Some of you might remember me posting about my = first looping performance on stage last year. Well this is the same place. = He dances=2C I loop. The scary part is I dont know how to make this work. H= e does dance moves such as michael jackson or usher. I need some advice on = being able to perform something danceable because i find it a little tough = to make something that changes a lot to keep the audience's interest.
= --_80005369-7a38-4937-bbba-9b8f2eae3576_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 11:20:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F193C183475; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 11:20:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5049D7D0.7010800@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 07:17:36 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #805 for September 6, 2012. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118171 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 11:20:16 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/120906.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #805 September 6, 2012. WDIY Playlis: http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels?playlist_date=09-06-2012 RECAP: On this show, I began a month-long focus on Manikin Records. The Featured CD at Midnight was disk one from "The First Decade." http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#sep I also played music by artists who have played at the electro-music festival. This year's event will be September 7 to 9. http://event.electro-music.com PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Glenn Main Echoes from the Past Ripples (A.D. Music) Glenn Main Rembrance Ripples (A.D. Music) Projective Module Anhelavi Other Things That Happened (Black Note Music) Bil Vermette Black Eye Galaxies IV (Rainforest Productions) Bil Vermette Milky Way Galaxies IV (Rainforest Productions) Twyndyllyngs Stretched To Event Horizon (electro-music Infinity media) Twyndyllyngs The Other Side Event Horizon (electro-music media) VA [Spyra] Post Train to First Decade disk 1 (Manikin) Bayreuth VA [Harald Grosskopf]Nastalgia76 First Decade disk 1 (Manikin) ==================== ==================== ============================== 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [Fanger & Echo Gods First Decade disk 1 (Manikin) Schonwalder w/Lutz] VA [Klaus Schulze] Manikin Jubilee First Decade disk 1 (Manikin) VA [Fanger & Kersten]Terraforming First Decade disk 1 (Manikin) VA [Arcanum vs. The Overdub First Decade disk 1 (Manikin) Otarion] VA [Mario Lightyears Before... First Decade disk 1 (Manikin) Schonwalder] VA [Nightcrawlers] Broken Symmetry First Decade disk 1 (Manikin) VA [Beatboys] Scaling the Moon First Decade disk 1 (Manikin) VA [Digital Triduum First Decade disk 1 (Manikin) Mechanics] VA [Fanger & Electronic Mirrors First Decade disk 1 (Manikin) Schonwalder] Chapter Seven 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Manikin Records. The Featured CD at Midnight will be disk two from "The First Decade." I will also play music by Bernhard Wostheinrich who, with Tim Motzer, will appear at the next installment of the Soundscapes Concert Series. WDIY Announcement: http://wdiy.org/post/next-galactic-travels-2012-09-13 Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 12:05:48 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB4B8183478; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 12:05:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=trufun.com; s=default; h=To:References:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject; bh=5RD9ncWrR2rNK7wW5nW5mcUE5ooJiINukYskqiOUJ1U=; b=ADX0kU1Dalw48FV+pLH4Zofo5CzOmsIV4QJs1FTVAnnAPRYSkrLf2LLnxyDjEQvMly2kurTuHPKijeKxICk3VgP5xJatjObGpZSvu9l2Kh1cuLDokSwxrHi/W2huWWc1; Subject: Re: Fripp news Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: David Gans X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <3F3781E00E7E4CFEBA27BBFA90BBAC7D@SgtephPC> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 05:05:42 -0700 Cc: David Gans Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6EFF4032-3A2E-41EB-ABBF-7F7DE2139B7D@trufun.com> References: <1F4E358B-41A1-41FA-99A0-40C5A0ECFF40@ubergadget.com> <3F3781E00E7E4CFEBA27BBFA90BBAC7D@SgtephPC> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: <7ECtEC.A.-w.cMeSQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118172 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 12:05:48 +0000 (UTC) These days, it's virtually impossible to make money from recordings = unless you can get 'em licensed for movies or TV or commercials.=20 I have made about $3500 (gross) this year selling CDs at gigs, and = another $500 or so from download sales via CDBaby, iTunes, and = festivalink.net - and I think that's pretty good. I don't have ready = access to the amount of money I've made from performances, but I think = its int he neighborhood of $30,000 so far this year. The old model of touring to support album sales, with the retail sales = happening in stores instead of at the gig, are long gone. Nowadays, the = artist sells the CD at the gig. The CD is one of many items sold at the = merch table, and I think a lot of artists make more on t-shirts and = posters and beer cozies than they do on the CDs. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 13:00:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F40E7183478; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 13:00:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1127 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 13:00:20 UTC Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 09:01:49 -0400 From: Douglas Baldwin Subject: Live Looping on TV in Queens, NY To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <02341395816245CEBA6002B54BF79735@Bedroom> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=UTF-8; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120907-0, 09/07/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean References: <1F4E358B-41A1-41FA-99A0-40C5A0ECFF40@ubergadget.com> <3F3781E00E7E4CFEBA27BBFA90BBAC7D@SgtephPC> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118173 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 13:00:20 +0000 (UTC) Yo cats 'n' kittens! A little live looping tonight (Friday, Sept. 7th) on your television set. If you're in the area of Queens, New York, you can catch me on "Wes Houston Presents..." tonight at 8:00 pm, Channel 56 (Times Warner cable) or 36 (FIOS). I perform three pieces on guitar (with electronic drums and bass as noted): * The Long Dance - pulse-based (100 bpm) with electronic percussives, primarily in A major, somewhat in the tradition of Steve Reich * Georgia O'Keefe - languid pulse-based (48 bpm) with electronic percussives and bass, a shifting major-ish tonality, kind of Kind of Blue * The Myth of Perseus - non-pulsed waves, G major, somewhere between Steve Roach and Robert Fripp Between the music I talk with Wes about looping, kind of an introductury overview of my influences and how looping began. I'm currently slicing and dicing the video up into shorter clips that I hope to post on YouTube soon. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 13:11:39 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 17F77183474; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 13:11:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 08:43:05 -0400 From: Douglas Baldwin Subject: Re: Fripp news To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <35F0CF35F0FF4AA5855C4F0A77FAB0FF@Bedroom> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120907-0, 09/07/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean References: <1F4E358B-41A1-41FA-99A0-40C5A0ECFF40@ubergadget.com> <3F3781E00E7E4CFEBA27BBFA90BBAC7D@SgtephPC> <83BF6112490AB3170952F475@epi-pc372.epi.bris.ac.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118174 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 13:11:38 +0000 (UTC) Knowing the Frippster just a teensy tiny bit (via Guitar Craft and a few other brief exchanges), I feel compelled to comment on the many comments given about his "retirement." First, note Robert's online diary: http://www.dgmlive.com/diaries.htm . Robert is a great writer, but he often uses his own code to express himself. Regular reading of his diary reveals this code rather clearly, and gives excellent insight to his day-to-day life: his struggles with the music business, pictures of his office and fellow workers, his lovely wife Toyah, and perhaps most relevantly, his thoughts about retirement. Philip wrote (and several other posters said or implied): > "I understood that as he is becoming his own management to keep following > up legal rights to his music of the past. Reminds me of the tendency among > record labels to stop seeking out new great music in favor of focusing on > dealing with the legal rights to their back catalogue." > > Economists call this rent, or rentierism. The extraction of value not by > producing anything new but by squeezing what has already been produced. > Actually creating new stuff entails risks and overheads; extracting rents > just requires a small army of lawyers and some posh offices. That's 21st > Century capitalism for you - all gain, no risk! Philip's comment implies a stinky heartless materialism. Robert doesn't seem to be very interested in making money through his back catalog per se. What he wants is proper control of the Crimson/Fripp catalog so it doesn't get abused by the fat grubs of 21st century music biz. He would also like to distribute income properly to his fellow musicians, many of whom do not have the background in real estate that he does, and so do not have much in the way of a cushioning income to soften the blows of the business. Robert certainly has no posh offices nor army of lawers; the DGM offices are on a rural side street adjacent to the village butcher, and Bobby often bunks down on the floor in a sleeping bag when work demands it. The staff consists of two or three people. Almost everyone who commented on the DPRP article was blindsided by DPRP's stupidly misleading and sensationalistic headline: "Robert Fripp Quit Music." That's poor English, for starters. What Robert has given up on is his role as a front-line, headlining, touring-in-poor-conditions performer and recorder of music that demands tour support. Robert is so plugged into music that it drips in puddles around his feet. Music flits around his rounded head like moths 'round a light. Almost every day he does things with his fingers, heart, and ears (and what's between them) than most of us could wish for. He's just sick of the crappy business surrounding the public performance and distribution of music. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 13:22:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73120183477; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 13:22:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <1F4E358B-41A1-41FA-99A0-40C5A0ECFF40@ubergadget.com><3F3781E00E7E4CFEBA27BBFA90BBAC7D@SgtephPC> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Fripp news Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 09:22:34 -0400 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3555.308 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118175 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 13:22:35 +0000 (UTC) In the 1990s as I understand it the only profitable tours were done by the Grateful Dead. $40 for a ticket, great parking lot action, lots of love and togetherness thanks to the massive fan base they'd developed over the years, and a great show. The big companies were watching, as I was told by a fellow at Jobete Music when I was IT Director there. Unfortunately those guys have executive perks and salaries, and tons of greed. Thus the $190 tickets began to appear for U2 etc. That's 20 years ago. It might be the "new old business model" after all. The economics of music production, management, and so on have begun to change again, as I see it. In 2004 I was asked to lend the use of a cartoon I'd done for a Christmas card, to a group of volunteer firemen from PA, who had a brass band. They played strictly locally, and in parades. They used DiscMakers to make a CD of Christmas songs, and used the cartoon for the cover. They only sold it to raise funds for new equipment, locally. They didn't NEED to make money in order to do their own thing. It was a hint to me that this world we cohabit was changing again. I don't know what's coming specifically, but it sure isn't what we've been seeing in the past. -----Original Message----- From: Per Boysen Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 5:33 AM To: Loopers-Delight Subject: Re: Fripp news "The old business model" was based on the fact that records sold well. This made it possible for a record label to organise tours that did not make any money except for the money generated as future record sales generated by the concerts. Funnily many of today's musicians see touring as "the new business model" and you can in fact make money from it if you keep costs down and plan it as a business that has to make ends meet. Not that the economy in D-I-Y touring has grown better, it is rather like it's what we have left after the decline of the CD market. The few times I've been able to cram gigs into a tour, like for example playing 20 times in a 30 days span, I have always come out with enough money to buy a great new instrument (since I tend to keep some on-the-side job too, thus not having to put all the touring money into food and rent). As I read that article on Fripp he was quoted saying he is giving up making music to focus on the business. I understood that as he is becoming his own management to keep following up legal rights to his music of the past. Reminds me of the tendency among record labels to stop seeking out new great music in favor of focusing on dealing with the legal rights to their back catalogue. What new will ever come to a world where every one just keeps suing everyone else? The daily life of any professional musician is about 90 percent administration and 10 percent music making. Maybe Fripp just got bored with the admin side not being handles well (by whatever management he used to work with) and thinks he can do it better by himself? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > That’s a matter of choice. I’ve been thinking a lot about whether > ‘touring’ > is a leftover construct of an old business model forced upon performers by > the big music companies, promoting the music created by artists, but > providing not a heck of a lot of income to them. On many levels this just > keeps the performer busy, while someone else reaps the rewards the > performers deserve... and guaranteeing a continued existence for dinosaurs > to continue deal with material produced by others. I’m not sure I want to > cooperate with such an idea myself. I don’t understand why anyone but a > gearhead would be interested in watching me twiddle settings and > performing > as such. My definition of the art involves using video works that > accompany > my music; I think it’s more interesting and most importantly it’s my art, > which compromises to nothing but broadband speed, my own time, and > equipment > maintenance. I’m sure many folks on this list enjoy the process of live > performance, but you have to include the elements of takedown-setup, > stolen-damaged instruments and equipment, iffy venues and operators, lots > of > schlepping it all around, questionable nutrition and the inevitable > dealing > with people who just want to make money off you. It doesn’t balance out > for > me on any level, and stinks of an old business model that only works for a > select few who must fill stadiums in order to break even, and charge the > people who come to see them criminal amounts of money for a ticket. I > think > the old business model’s been dead a few years already. We DON’T have to > follow it any more in order to produce, record, or sell our own material. > But that’s just the opinion of someone who’s gotten a new start in life, > and > can’t afford at 55 to mess with ‘touring’ as such. > > From: Gareth Whittock > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 1:33 AM > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: RE: Fripp news > > So he's giving up making music today over the release of music he made > decades ago. > Many of artists work for little or no financial reward because that is > their > raison d'etre. > Seems odd to me. > > G > > Gareth Whittock, sound artist: garethwhittock.co.uk > >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> From: revfever@ubergadget.com >> Subject: Fripp news >> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 20:40:28 -0700 >> >> Intense. But, I'll wager he will back to making music after a certain >> period of time. How could someone like him not do so? :-) >> >> http://www.dprp.net/wp/?p=7155 >> >> Cheers- >> Rev.Fever >> Portlandia >> http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever >> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental1 >> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental2 >> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/skult >> >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 13:26:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF761183478; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 13:26:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 14:26:12 +0100 From: Philip Conway To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Fripp news Message-ID: <48F9EF44A28EB365CED8C817@epi-pc372.epi.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <35F0CF35F0FF4AA5855C4F0A77FAB0FF@Bedroom> References: <1F4E358B-41A1-41FA-99A0-40C5A0ECFF40@ubergadget.com> <3F3781E00E7E4CFEBA27BBFA90BBAC7D@SgtephPC> <83BF6112490AB3170952F475@epi-pc372.epi.bris.ac.uk> <35F0CF35F0FF4AA5855C4F0A77FAB0FF@Bedroom> Originator-Info: login-token=Mulberry:01jooFkP7tPcKMvUv5zwPuav7NuHTzvP63eALPuW34xAG4ZvOHAHY=; token_authority=mailto:postmaster@bristol.ac.uk X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118176 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 13:26:46 +0000 (UTC) Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that *Fripp's* 'retirement' was a purely materialistic decision but that this is the nature of the music industry as a whole -- obsessed with legality and ownership and neglectful of creativity. The 'posh offices', etc. was referring to the turn that the whole industry has taken towards rentierism. I didn't mean to imply that Fripp has any of these things. To me he just seems to be defending his artistic and commercial legacy against this kind of predation. Philip. --On 07 September 2012 08:43 -0400 Douglas Baldwin wrote: > Knowing the Frippster just a teensy tiny bit (via Guitar Craft and a few > other brief exchanges), I feel compelled to comment on the many comments > given about his "retirement." First, note Robert's online diary: > http://www.dgmlive.com/diaries.htm . Robert is a great writer, but he > often uses his own code to express himself. Regular reading of his diary > reveals this code rather clearly, and gives excellent insight to his > day-to-day life: his struggles with the music business, pictures of his > office and fellow workers, his lovely wife Toyah, and perhaps most > relevantly, his thoughts about retirement. > Philip wrote (and several other posters said or implied): > >> "I understood that as he is becoming his own management to keep >> following up legal rights to his music of the past. Reminds me of the >> tendency among record labels to stop seeking out new great music in >> favor of focusing on dealing with the legal rights to their back >> catalogue." >> >> Economists call this rent, or rentierism. The extraction of value not >> by producing anything new but by squeezing what has already been >> produced. Actually creating new stuff entails risks and overheads; >> extracting rents just requires a small army of lawyers and some posh >> offices. That's 21st Century capitalism for you - all gain, no risk! > > Philip's comment implies a stinky heartless materialism. Robert doesn't > seem to be very interested in making money through his back catalog per > se. What he wants is proper control of the Crimson/Fripp catalog so it > doesn't get abused by the fat grubs of 21st century music biz. He would > also like to distribute income properly to his fellow musicians, many of > whom do not have the background in real estate that he does, and so do > not have much in the way of a cushioning income to soften the blows of > the business. Robert certainly has no posh offices nor army of lawers; > the DGM offices are on a rural side street adjacent to the village > butcher, and Bobby often bunks down on the floor in a sleeping bag when > work demands it. The staff consists of two or three people. > > Almost everyone who commented on the DPRP article was blindsided by > DPRP's stupidly misleading and sensationalistic headline: "Robert Fripp > Quit Music." That's poor English, for starters. What Robert has given up > on is his role as a front-line, headlining, touring-in-poor-conditions > performer and recorder of music that demands tour support. Robert is so > plugged into music that it drips in puddles around his feet. Music flits > around his rounded head like moths 'round a light. Almost every day he > does things with his fingers, heart, and ears (and what's between them) > than most of us could wish for. He's just sick of the crappy business > surrounding the public performance and distribution of music. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 13:30:18 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3FCC5183475; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 13:30:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <1F4E358B-41A1-41FA-99A0-40C5A0ECFF40@ubergadget.com> <3F3781E00E7E4CFEBA27BBFA90BBAC7D@SgtephPC> <83BF6112490AB3170952F475@epi-pc372.epi.bris.ac.uk> <35F0CF35F0FF4AA5855C4F0A77FAB0FF@Bedroom> In-Reply-To: <35F0CF35F0FF4AA5855C4F0A77FAB0FF@Bedroom> Subject: Re: Fripp news Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 09:30:18 -0400 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3555.308 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118177 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 13:30:17 +0000 (UTC) Spot on, Douglas. Though I'd understood that the real estate maven in the family is Toyah. :) -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Baldwin Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 8:43 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Fripp news Knowing the Frippster just a teensy tiny bit (via Guitar Craft and a few other brief exchanges), I feel compelled to comment on the many comments given about his "retirement." First, note Robert's online diary: http://www.dgmlive.com/diaries.htm . Robert is a great writer, but he often uses his own code to express himself. Regular reading of his diary reveals this code rather clearly, and gives excellent insight to his day-to-day life: his struggles with the music business, pictures of his office and fellow workers, his lovely wife Toyah, and perhaps most relevantly, his thoughts about retirement. Philip wrote (and several other posters said or implied): > "I understood that as he is becoming his own management to keep following > up legal rights to his music of the past. Reminds me of the tendency among > record labels to stop seeking out new great music in favor of focusing on > dealing with the legal rights to their back catalogue." > > Economists call this rent, or rentierism. The extraction of value not by > producing anything new but by squeezing what has already been produced. > Actually creating new stuff entails risks and overheads; extracting rents > just requires a small army of lawyers and some posh offices. That's 21st > Century capitalism for you - all gain, no risk! Philip's comment implies a stinky heartless materialism. Robert doesn't seem to be very interested in making money through his back catalog per se. What he wants is proper control of the Crimson/Fripp catalog so it doesn't get abused by the fat grubs of 21st century music biz. He would also like to distribute income properly to his fellow musicians, many of whom do not have the background in real estate that he does, and so do not have much in the way of a cushioning income to soften the blows of the business. Robert certainly has no posh offices nor army of lawers; the DGM offices are on a rural side street adjacent to the village butcher, and Bobby often bunks down on the floor in a sleeping bag when work demands it. The staff consists of two or three people. Almost everyone who commented on the DPRP article was blindsided by DPRP's stupidly misleading and sensationalistic headline: "Robert Fripp Quit Music." That's poor English, for starters. What Robert has given up on is his role as a front-line, headlining, touring-in-poor-conditions performer and recorder of music that demands tour support. Robert is so plugged into music that it drips in puddles around his feet. Music flits around his rounded head like moths 'round a light. Almost every day he does things with his fingers, heart, and ears (and what's between them) than most of us could wish for. He's just sick of the crappy business surrounding the public performance and distribution of music. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 13:34:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B574183473; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 13:34:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <1F4E358B-41A1-41FA-99A0-40C5A0ECFF40@ubergadget.com> <3F3781E00E7E4CFEBA27BBFA90BBAC7D@SgtephPC> <6EFF4032-3A2E-41EB-ABBF-7F7DE2139B7D@trufun.com> In-Reply-To: <6EFF4032-3A2E-41EB-ABBF-7F7DE2139B7D@trufun.com> Subject: Re: Fripp news Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 09:34:25 -0400 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3555.308 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118178 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 13:34:25 +0000 (UTC) As always LD is a valuable resource for communication and information on many levels. What about downloads' income? -----Original Message----- From: David Gans Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 8:05 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: David Gans Subject: Re: Fripp news These days, it's virtually impossible to make money from recordings unless you can get 'em licensed for movies or TV or commercials. I have made about $3500 (gross) this year selling CDs at gigs, and another $500 or so from download sales via CDBaby, iTunes, and festivalink.net - and I think that's pretty good. I don't have ready access to the amount of money I've made from performances, but I think its int he neighborhood of $30,000 so far this year. The old model of touring to support album sales, with the retail sales happening in stores instead of at the gig, are long gone. Nowadays, the artist sells the CD at the gig. The CD is one of many items sold at the merch table, and I think a lot of artists make more on t-shirts and posters and beer cozies than they do on the CDs. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 13:36:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0B10183477; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 13:36:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:x-priority:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=/MrtTYsDTB+30WRsp3TNOz8oQnVHrw5iLBRgz9BK328=; b=zCjggcV7r5/TbMFePeK6GK9hQVjA5SfRW1jg18EKaSIq+YpJVbXww2NNv96lFdhjPK h6oaDcQwYnUcEFPPpEW+WtEKBESYyBeqKBdLSme2Lhoxma9QpGONaScaGnNNM91nwDgL 3VxEVzBaXuQm9qGmFvWGZHOieRpDUiTE+ewb/V1lqN6do+fSMTXWsOl3nBbY9XIr1dWN qloZoNrTzGRciMHGLRird6+8ewowqvBLFghMTp6b/RYnrYBko0dRRIFC7tH/JQKxYjII dXWAcapDIcDJ+b4vflJ7uwRSDuYBmWz1+Y03un54yGKs8ZMx0w426C5qn2ZdOGyIVmg3 R4qw== Subject: Re: Fripp news Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Simeon Harris X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 14:41:11 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6D9AE0FD-C4BC-4304-911C-187582DB3C61@googlemail.com> References: <1F4E358B-41A1-41FA-99A0-40C5A0ECFF40@ubergadget.com> <3F3781E00E7E4CFEBA27BBFA90BBAC7D@SgtephPC> <6EFF4032-3A2E-41EB-ABBF-7F7DE2139B7D@trufun.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118179 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 13:36:38 +0000 (UTC) whoa, good going david! >=20 > -----Original Message----- From: David Gans > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 8:05 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Cc: David Gans > Subject: Re: Fripp news >=20 >=20 > These days, it's virtually impossible to make money from recordings = unless you can get 'em licensed for movies or TV or commercials. >=20 > I have made about $3500 (gross) this year selling CDs at gigs, and = another $500 or so from download sales via CDBaby, iTunes, and = festivalink.net - and I think that's pretty good. I don't have ready = access to the amount of money I've made from performances, but I think = its int he neighborhood of $30,000 so far this year. >=20 > The old model of touring to support album sales, with the retail sales = happening in stores instead of at the gig, are long gone. Nowadays, the = artist sells the CD at the gig. The CD is one of many items sold at the = merch table, and I think a lot of artists make more on t-shirts and = posters and beer cozies than they do on the CDs.=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 13:43:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C207D183475; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 13:43:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 09:45:05 -0400 From: Douglas Baldwin Subject: Re: Fripp news To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120907-0, 09/07/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean References: <1F4E358B-41A1-41FA-99A0-40C5A0ECFF40@ubergadget.com> <3F3781E00E7E4CFEBA27BBFA90BBAC7D@SgtephPC> <83BF6112490AB3170952F475@epi-pc372.epi.bris.ac.uk> <35F0CF35F0FF4AA5855C4F0A77FAB0FF@Bedroom> <48F9EF44A28EB365CED8C817@epi-pc372.epi.bris.ac.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118180 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 13:43:22 +0000 (UTC) Well said, Philip - My apologies for incorrectly implying that you implied that... & etc. I love the term "rentierism." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip Conway" To: Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 9:26 AM Subject: Re: Fripp news > Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that *Fripp's* 'retirement' was a purely > materialistic decision but that this is the nature of the music industry > as a whole -- obsessed with legality and ownership and neglectful of > creativity. > > The 'posh offices', etc. was referring to the turn that the whole industry > has taken towards rentierism. I didn't mean to imply that Fripp has any > of these things. To me he just seems to be defending his artistic and > commercial legacy against this kind of predation. > > > Philip. > > --On 07 September 2012 08:43 -0400 Douglas Baldwin > wrote: > >> Knowing the Frippster just a teensy tiny bit (via Guitar Craft and a few >> other brief exchanges), I feel compelled to comment on the many comments >> given about his "retirement." First, note Robert's online diary: >> http://www.dgmlive.com/diaries.htm . Robert is a great writer, but he >> often uses his own code to express himself. Regular reading of his diary >> reveals this code rather clearly, and gives excellent insight to his >> day-to-day life: his struggles with the music business, pictures of his >> office and fellow workers, his lovely wife Toyah, and perhaps most >> relevantly, his thoughts about retirement. >> Philip wrote (and several other posters said or implied): >> >>> "I understood that as he is becoming his own management to keep >>> following up legal rights to his music of the past. Reminds me of the >>> tendency among record labels to stop seeking out new great music in >>> favor of focusing on dealing with the legal rights to their back >>> catalogue." >>> >>> Economists call this rent, or rentierism. The extraction of value not >>> by producing anything new but by squeezing what has already been >>> produced. Actually creating new stuff entails risks and overheads; >>> extracting rents just requires a small army of lawyers and some posh >>> offices. That's 21st Century capitalism for you - all gain, no risk! >> >> Philip's comment implies a stinky heartless materialism. Robert doesn't >> seem to be very interested in making money through his back catalog per >> se. What he wants is proper control of the Crimson/Fripp catalog so it >> doesn't get abused by the fat grubs of 21st century music biz. He would >> also like to distribute income properly to his fellow musicians, many of >> whom do not have the background in real estate that he does, and so do >> not have much in the way of a cushioning income to soften the blows of >> the business. Robert certainly has no posh offices nor army of lawers; >> the DGM offices are on a rural side street adjacent to the village >> butcher, and Bobby often bunks down on the floor in a sleeping bag when >> work demands it. The staff consists of two or three people. >> >> Almost everyone who commented on the DPRP article was blindsided by >> DPRP's stupidly misleading and sensationalistic headline: "Robert Fripp >> Quit Music." That's poor English, for starters. What Robert has given up >> on is his role as a front-line, headlining, touring-in-poor-conditions >> performer and recorder of music that demands tour support. Robert is so >> plugged into music that it drips in puddles around his feet. Music flits >> around his rounded head like moths 'round a light. Almost every day he >> does things with his fingers, heart, and ears (and what's between them) >> than most of us could wish for. He's just sick of the crappy business >> surrounding the public performance and distribution of music. > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 13:56:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24AB018347A; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 13:56:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=YbDo/GIgHw+ZBo+6ZtHMyu1kQRG5ZcB0tVej7cO3LpujMv7bi4VJKlwyORf0g1U4; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <02341395816245CEBA6002B54BF79735@Bedroom> References: <1F4E358B-41A1-41FA-99A0-40C5A0ECFF40@ubergadget.com> <3F3781E00E7E4CFEBA27BBFA90BBAC7D@SgtephPC> <02341395816245CEBA6002B54BF79735@Bedroom> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 09:52:31 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Live Looping on TV in Queens, NY Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec793caa66df11d4401b03afc398063b40b7350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118181 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 13:56:37 +0000 (UTC) Excellent. I'm in Manhattan, but don't have a TV set... :( >Yo cats 'n' kittens! > A little live looping tonight (Friday, Sept. 7th) on your >television set. If you're in the area of Queens, New York, you can >catch me on "Wes Houston Presents..." tonight at 8:00 pm, Channel >56 (Times Warner cable) or 36 (FIOS). > I perform three pieces on guitar (with electronic drums and bass as noted): >* The Long Dance - pulse-based (100 bpm) with electronic >percussives, primarily in A major, somewhat in the tradition of >Steve Reich >* Georgia O'Keefe - languid pulse-based (48 bpm) with electronic >percussives and bass, a shifting major-ish tonality, kind of Kind of >Blue >* The Myth of Perseus - non-pulsed waves, G major, somewhere between >Steve Roach and Robert Fripp > Between the music I talk with Wes about looping, kind of an >introductury overview of my influences and how looping began. > I'm currently slicing and dicing the video up into shorter clips >that I hope to post on YouTube soon. -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 14:00:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4832A18347A; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 14:00:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=h/j5FneUaDpQSKhQRyVqpBdmy5E9NIUddbut9YjdX+E=; b=cr9FchltxyrxQ++4HjrWOTa9BBzDdauzyXxGGkXapelenU6zCTfupw8dEgH5xjydtj Rn8HnS0GTU24FnU4dmaLL7Zw/clcgtCHoVQ8rj3LeWWTyWtHyjfLkwv8J41XkY4qRUKp u/YNd7vtG5BClSN1N0Jw2EF2e2YFa6p0vAvxmoApvggIpz8FYEC6/m4T4W+H/4OSoqhx ud4fEa1UlZiTmgk5XvlEMgp7Q+HPsT+2MRlAJM8nEHkB7inFGfumSJUSU9yn+trRWVh5 fi0vXZs6+MJ8f+grChIt+5xttS8vS5cG0TLAWo1UVXFgo8P2KZMizUCFk5LtSf2j2DYg tm0Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1F4E358B-41A1-41FA-99A0-40C5A0ECFF40@ubergadget.com> <3F3781E00E7E4CFEBA27BBFA90BBAC7D@SgtephPC> <02341395816245CEBA6002B54BF79735@Bedroom> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 09:59:59 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Live Looping on TV in Queens, NY From: todd reynolds To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3071cffa07db2b04c91d06e8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118182 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 14:00:00 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3071cffa07db2b04c91d06e8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'd call that a studio visit. I'm actually in Queens! But will be out tonight. I'm relegated to the YouTube vids. On Sep 7, 2012 9:56 AM, "Charles Zwicky" wrote: > Excellent. I'm in Manhattan, but don't have a TV set... :( > > Yo cats 'n' kittens! >> A little live looping tonight (Friday, Sept. 7th) on your television >> set. If you're in the area of Queens, New York, you can catch me on "Wes >> Houston Presents..." tonight at 8:00 pm, Channel 56 (Times Warner cable) >> or 36 (FIOS). >> I perform three pieces on guitar (with electronic drums and bass as >> noted): >> * The Long Dance - pulse-based (100 bpm) with electronic percussives, >> primarily in A major, somewhat in the tradition of Steve Reich >> * Georgia O'Keefe - languid pulse-based (48 bpm) with electronic >> percussives and bass, a shifting major-ish tonality, kind of Kind of Blue >> * The Myth of Perseus - non-pulsed waves, G major, somewhere between >> Steve Roach and Robert Fripp >> Between the music I talk with Wes about looping, kind of an >> introductury overview of my influences and how looping began. >> I'm currently slicing and dicing the video up into shorter clips that >> I hope to post on YouTube soon. >> > > > -- > > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > http://www.esession.com/**ChuckZwicky > > http://albumcredits.com/zmix > > --20cf3071cffa07db2b04c91d06e8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'd call that a studio visit. I'm actually in Queens= !=A0 But will be out tonight. I'm relegated to the YouTube vids.

On Sep 7, 2012 9:56 AM, "Charles Zwicky&quo= t; <cazwicky@earthlink.net= > wrote:
Excellent. =A0I'm in Manhattan, but don't have a TV set... :(

Yo cats 'n' kittens!
=A0 =A0A little live looping tonight (Friday, Sept. 7th) on your television= set. If you're in the area of Queens, New York, you can catch me on &q= uot;Wes Houston Presents..." =A0tonight at 8:00 pm, Channel 56 (Times = Warner cable) or 36 (FIOS).
=A0 =A0I perform three pieces on guitar (with electronic drums and bass as = noted):
* The Long Dance - pulse-based (100 bpm) with electronic percussives, prima= rily in A major, somewhat in the tradition of Steve Reich
* Georgia O'Keefe - =A0languid pulse-based (48 bpm) with electronic per= cussives and bass, a shifting major-ish tonality, kind of Kind of Blue
* The Myth of Perseus - non-pulsed waves, G major, somewhere between Steve = Roach and Robert Fripp
=A0 =A0Between the music I talk with Wes about looping, kind of an introduc= tury overview of my influences and how looping began.
=A0 =A0I'm currently slicing and dicing the video up into shorter clips= that I hope to post on YouTube soon.


--

...
http://www.zmix.net
http://ww= w.esession.com/ChuckZwicky

http://albumcred= its.com/zmix

--20cf3071cffa07db2b04c91d06e8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 14:02:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26C6C183492; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 14:02:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 487 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 14:02:16 UTC Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 13:54:09 +0000 (UTC) From: Christophe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <1035151654.1620633.1347026049351.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Fripp news MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1620632_1961802111.1347026049280" X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:146.243.4.157] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118183 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 14:02:16 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_1620632_1961802111.1347026049280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree on both counts. From what I've read in the past, including a bio some years back, he does seem to be painfully serious about himself and a little deficient in the humor department. I also seem to remember him taking a long sabbatical (I think he called it retirement then, too) between the Lark's Tongues period (which is still my favorite KC era) and the Discipline era over his dissatisfaction with the biz. I doubt his "retirement" will last forever. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Art Simon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Friday, September 7, 2012 1:44:10 AM Subject: Re: Fripp news I love, adore, the music of Robert Fripp. But I'm getting the impression he's a bit prickly. ------=_Part_1620632_1961802111.1347026049280 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I agree on both counts.  From what I've read in the past, including a bio some years back, he does seem to be painfully serious about himself and a little deficient in the humor department.

I also seem to remember him taking a long sabbatical (I think he called it retirement then, too) between the Lark's Tongues period (which is still my favorite KC era) and the Discipline era over his dissatisfaction with the biz.  I doubt his "retirement" will last forever.

From: "Art Simon" <simart@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2012 1:44:10 AM
Subject: Re: Fripp news

I love, adore, the music of Robert Fripp. But I'm getting the
impression he's a bit prickly.


------=_Part_1620632_1961802111.1347026049280-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 14:24:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89E56183475; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 14:24:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=qU9vTENroOq2s6i9/sTxZt9WOCoWX/XGfIT3Tj8F8dQ= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=UncmS/Am0Fgh8c8TZh5eWA==:17 a=p9nouUltAAAA:8 a=vm92dfQjAAAA:8 a=HSWCTTXAAAAA:8 a=q5rn4Ln1N1RoyU520q4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=UncmS/Am0Fgh8c8TZh5eWA==:117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Fripp news From: Ted Killian In-Reply-To: <1F4E358B-41A1-41FA-99A0-40C5A0ECFF40@ubergadget.com> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 07:24:13 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <44F7C64C-71ED-4CBF-AFCE-DE45C90E9C94@charter.net> References: <1F4E358B-41A1-41FA-99A0-40C5A0ECFF40@ubergadget.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <4Pl0uC.A.W1C.POgSQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118184 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 14:24:15 +0000 (UTC) Well, we can't say we didn't see that coming. He's been talking about it for years. On Sep 6, 2012, at 8:40 PM, Revfever wrote: > Intense. But, I'll wager he will back to making music after a certain = period of time. How could someone like him not do so? :-) >=20 > http://www.dprp.net/wp/?p=3D7155 >=20 > Cheers- > Rev.Fever > Portlandia > http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental1 > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental2 > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/skult >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 14:29:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BEBFC183475; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 14:29:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=trufun.com; s=default; h=To:References:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject; bh=hOB1DRYhYCsaRW0iELxftps7pfUaiBkKHMNMP5AkXXM=; b=fx1ZibsEShyT7MqNHLEQ+93oBvUbh9LkckNTq9Eg6aTKZb2JdtC/9cweKlte+T7DlqGFyY+A2l5zjX89428mi105LSO91pq/kLWSM6B4BJ2hlqlqO2TNHZVsyTX15icc; Subject: online royalties Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: David Gans X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 07:27:41 -0700 Cc: David Gans Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9DC37683-26F4-42B0-BCBA-5280E627B0AF@trufun.com> References: <1F4E358B-41A1-41FA-99A0-40C5A0ECFF40@ubergadget.com> <3F3781E00E7E4CFEBA27BBFA90BBAC7D@SgtephPC> <6EFF4032-3A2E-41EB-ABBF-7F7DE2139B7D@trufun.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118185 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 14:29:05 +0000 (UTC) I sell downloads via CDBaby (which gets me onto iTunes, Amazon, = Rhapsody, etc.) and festivalink.net (which also gets me onto iTunes, = Amazon and HDTrack.net). CDBaby sends me money via PayPal whenever it = the running total exceeds $50, and that happens a few times a year so I = think I'm in the $200-250 range there. VERY few actual CDs go out that = way any more. Festivalink.net has a couple of my live shows and two studio albums. = They offer downloads, CD on demand, and individual track sales. I was = also part of a performance of The American Beauty Project in 2007 that = still sells pretty well, so I get a few pennies from every sale of that = one. I think I get maybe $300 a year from festivalink. My March 2012 statement from SoundExchange, reflecting online plays of = all my (registered) releases, was $126.68, comprising my composer's = royalties and my publisher's royalties (I am my own publisher, of = course). SiriusXM, Pandora, and something called "webcasting proxy II" = are my biggest outlets. So again, not much money, but every little bit = helps. I also get a few bucks from sales of my book "Conversations with the = Dead," which found new life as an eBook in the Kindle era. My point is that the lion's share of my income from music is from = playing live, not from sales of my recorded works. I love to record, and I put money aside for that as often as I can. = When I have enough to pay for studio time and some players, I record a = song or two. When I have enough songs for a CD, I'll put one out. It's = great to have CDs to sell at gigs. And in fact, that business has = picked up considerably this year: I sold 21 CDs at a festival in Ohio = last Sunday and another dozen or so at a house concert the following = day. On Sep 7, 2012, at 6:34 AM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > As always LD is a valuable resource for communication and information = on many levels. What about downloads' income? David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 14:33:04 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 114CD183474; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 14:33:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 15:32:38 +0100 From: Philip Conway To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Fripp news Message-ID: <1C851C9649ADFB6BC99D7BFD@epi-pc372.epi.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <1F4E358B-41A1-41FA-99A0-40C5A0ECFF40@ubergadget.com> <3F3781E00E7E4CFEBA27BBFA90BBAC7D@SgtephPC> <83BF6112490AB3170952F475@epi-pc372.epi.bris.ac.uk> <35F0CF35F0FF4AA5855C4F0A77FAB0FF@Bedroom> <48F9EF44A28EB365CED8C817@epi-pc372.epi.bris.ac.uk> Originator-Info: login-token=Mulberry:01VpG2ssb07uRUxPwbl8v1GyCVvyUVhMa+KSSXwB4ajMm/FxVPByc=; token_authority=mailto:postmaster@bristol.ac.uk X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118186 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 14:33:03 +0000 (UTC) Ah, the perils of (mis)communication! No worries. --On 07 September 2012 09:45 -0400 Douglas Baldwin wrote: > Well said, Philip - My apologies for incorrectly implying that you > implied that... & etc. > I love the term "rentierism." > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip Conway" > > To: > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 9:26 AM > Subject: Re: Fripp news > > >> Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that *Fripp's* 'retirement' was a purely >> materialistic decision but that this is the nature of the music industry >> as a whole -- obsessed with legality and ownership and neglectful of >> creativity. >> >> The 'posh offices', etc. was referring to the turn that the whole >> industry has taken towards rentierism. I didn't mean to imply that >> Fripp has any of these things. To me he just seems to be defending his >> artistic and commercial legacy against this kind of predation. >> >> >> Philip. >> >> --On 07 September 2012 08:43 -0400 Douglas Baldwin >> wrote: >> >>> Knowing the Frippster just a teensy tiny bit (via Guitar Craft and a few >>> other brief exchanges), I feel compelled to comment on the many comments >>> given about his "retirement." First, note Robert's online diary: >>> http://www.dgmlive.com/diaries.htm . Robert is a great writer, but he >>> often uses his own code to express himself. Regular reading of his diary >>> reveals this code rather clearly, and gives excellent insight to his >>> day-to-day life: his struggles with the music business, pictures of his >>> office and fellow workers, his lovely wife Toyah, and perhaps most >>> relevantly, his thoughts about retirement. >>> Philip wrote (and several other posters said or implied): >>> >>>> "I understood that as he is becoming his own management to keep >>>> following up legal rights to his music of the past. Reminds me of the >>>> tendency among record labels to stop seeking out new great music in >>>> favor of focusing on dealing with the legal rights to their back >>>> catalogue." >>>> >>>> Economists call this rent, or rentierism. The extraction of value not >>>> by producing anything new but by squeezing what has already been >>>> produced. Actually creating new stuff entails risks and overheads; >>>> extracting rents just requires a small army of lawyers and some posh >>>> offices. That's 21st Century capitalism for you - all gain, no risk! >>> >>> Philip's comment implies a stinky heartless materialism. Robert doesn't >>> seem to be very interested in making money through his back catalog per >>> se. What he wants is proper control of the Crimson/Fripp catalog so it >>> doesn't get abused by the fat grubs of 21st century music biz. He would >>> also like to distribute income properly to his fellow musicians, many of >>> whom do not have the background in real estate that he does, and so do >>> not have much in the way of a cushioning income to soften the blows of >>> the business. Robert certainly has no posh offices nor army of lawers; >>> the DGM offices are on a rural side street adjacent to the village >>> butcher, and Bobby often bunks down on the floor in a sleeping bag when >>> work demands it. The staff consists of two or three people. >>> >>> Almost everyone who commented on the DPRP article was blindsided by >>> DPRP's stupidly misleading and sensationalistic headline: "Robert Fripp >>> Quit Music." That's poor English, for starters. What Robert has given up >>> on is his role as a front-line, headlining, touring-in-poor-conditions >>> performer and recorder of music that demands tour support. Robert is so >>> plugged into music that it drips in puddles around his feet. Music flits >>> around his rounded head like moths 'round a light. Almost every day he >>> does things with his fingers, heart, and ears (and what's between them) >>> than most of us could wish for. He's just sick of the crappy business >>> surrounding the public performance and distribution of music. >> >> >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 15:17:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5CB7F183477; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 15:17:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <1F4E358B-41A1-41FA-99A0-40C5A0ECFF40@ubergadget.com> <3F3781E00E7E4CFEBA27BBFA90BBAC7D@SgtephPC> <02341395816245CEBA6002B54BF79735@Bedroom> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Live Looping on TV in Queens, NY In-Reply-To: <02341395816245CEBA6002B54BF79735@Bedroom> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: michael klobuchar X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CF5B230B23FE54_2250_B825B_webmail-stg-m01.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 36962-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CF5B230B1A78CC-2250-32B56@webmail-stg-m01.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [151.201.33.150] Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 11:17:35 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1347031055; bh=gKHeN/ZMnc0QutbI1/vmiD32lumI2yESkun92z5Ew8A=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tajonSQ0EVyHJDOOt6hQqc3ErTfAe9WYD3T3P5FT9QvdLJiNVOWdAEnE62OYHKzmf WOMCV3dbGgJPLS1eObgQ4EC4GHaUUOjp5chp0rIxB2JARoKYGWyqwTo6uvcsrsKDM7 wmMzP/RmISUvY0nafzabEYaLjQKvKDg0gVQGYolw= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:200621632:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338c504a100f38df Resent-Message-ID: <--RDgC.A.TdD.YAhSQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118187 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 15:17:44 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CF5B230B23FE54_2250_B825B_webmail-stg-m01.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" you will have this video taped, yes? =20 ----------MB_8CF5B230B23FE54_2250_B825B_webmail-stg-m01.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" you will have this video taped, yes= ?
----------MB_8CF5B230B23FE54_2250_B825B_webmail-stg-m01.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 15:27:58 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A5A9183474; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 15:27:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1200 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 15:27:57 UTC X-WS-COS: WSOB804 X-Cloudmark-Category: Undefined:Undefined X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=wi2J7rgTjtt66PGN7+JMAiX4/IqmFavmjTO+nE+rCy4= c=1 sm=0 a=PS5YPsqztb8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=rZ1T3NJVAAAA:8 a=xRfjoxBpAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=Z0FRcvtfAAAA:8 a=HxJ-0FG1bW3C7HpKBXQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=ZZ-I9RR_fLEA:10 a=bgAgzZxQv2QA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=kvGoEBQ_ihjfxCM6:21 a=1_mkzlV5_NprJvQE:21 a=D/DdvUcsF+5+80ZR0731QQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Authentication-Results: pacmmta51 smtp.user=ewf@windstream.net; auth=pass (PLAIN) Subject: Re: Fripp news References: <1F4E358B-41A1-41FA-99A0-40C5A0ECFF40@ubergadget.com> <3F3781E00E7E4CFEBA27BBFA90BBAC7D@SgtephPC> <83BF6112490AB3170952F475@epi-pc372.epi.bris.ac.uk> <35F0CF35F0FF4AA5855C4F0A77FAB0FF@Bedroom> <48F9EF44A28EB365CED8C817@epi-pc372.epi.bris.ac.uk> <1C851C9649ADFB6BC99D7BFD@epi-pc372.epi.bris.ac.uk> From: Chaz Worm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) In-Reply-To: <1C851C9649ADFB6BC99D7BFD@epi-pc372.epi.bris.ac.uk> Message-Id: <7F0DBD4C-F1C0-4E17-BACB-266375D56E1B@earthwormandfire.com> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 11:07:55 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118188 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 15:27:58 +0000 (UTC) I must admit out its a shame losing Robert Fripp to the looping community. B= ut honestly, I thought of all Led Zeppelin's members, Jimmy Page would be mo= st apt to experiment with looping. Not Robert Fripp!?!" Chaz Worm - Electric Light Opry Former lead singer, bass and banjo for punkgrass supergroup Earth, Worm, &, = Fire On Sep 7, 2012, at 10:32 AM, Philip Conway wro= te: > Ah, the perils of (mis)communication! No worries. >=20 >=20 > --On 07 September 2012 09:45 -0400 Douglas Baldwin wrote: >=20 >> Well said, Philip - My apologies for incorrectly implying that you >> implied that... & etc. >> I love the term "rentierism." >>=20 >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip Conway" >> >> To: >> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 9:26 AM >> Subject: Re: Fripp news >>=20 >>=20 >>> Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that *Fripp's* 'retirement' was a purely >>> materialistic decision but that this is the nature of the music industry= >>> as a whole -- obsessed with legality and ownership and neglectful of >>> creativity. >>>=20 >>> The 'posh offices', etc. was referring to the turn that the whole >>> industry has taken towards rentierism. I didn't mean to imply that >>> Fripp has any of these things. To me he just seems to be defending his= >>> artistic and commercial legacy against this kind of predation. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Philip. >>>=20 >>> --On 07 September 2012 08:43 -0400 Douglas Baldwin >>> wrote: >>>=20 >>>> Knowing the Frippster just a teensy tiny bit (via Guitar Craft and a fe= w >>>> other brief exchanges), I feel compelled to comment on the many comment= s >>>> given about his "retirement." First, note Robert's online diary: >>>> http://www.dgmlive.com/diaries.htm . Robert is a great writer, but he >>>> often uses his own code to express himself. Regular reading of his diar= y >>>> reveals this code rather clearly, and gives excellent insight to his >>>> day-to-day life: his struggles with the music business, pictures of his= >>>> office and fellow workers, his lovely wife Toyah, and perhaps most >>>> relevantly, his thoughts about retirement. >>>> Philip wrote (and several other posters said or implied): >>>>=20 >>>>> "I understood that as he is becoming his own management to keep >>>>> following up legal rights to his music of the past. Reminds me of the= >>>>> tendency among record labels to stop seeking out new great music in >>>>> favor of focusing on dealing with the legal rights to their back >>>>> catalogue." >>>>>=20 >>>>> Economists call this rent, or rentierism. The extraction of value not= >>>>> by producing anything new but by squeezing what has already been >>>>> produced. Actually creating new stuff entails risks and overheads; >>>>> extracting rents just requires a small army of lawyers and some posh >>>>> offices. That's 21st Century capitalism for you - all gain, no risk!= >>>>=20 >>>> Philip's comment implies a stinky heartless materialism. Robert doesn't= >>>> seem to be very interested in making money through his back catalog per= >>>> se. What he wants is proper control of the Crimson/Fripp catalog so it >>>> doesn't get abused by the fat grubs of 21st century music biz. He would= >>>> also like to distribute income properly to his fellow musicians, many o= f >>>> whom do not have the background in real estate that he does, and so do >>>> not have much in the way of a cushioning income to soften the blows of >>>> the business. Robert certainly has no posh offices nor army of lawers; >>>> the DGM offices are on a rural side street adjacent to the village >>>> butcher, and Bobby often bunks down on the floor in a sleeping bag when= >>>> work demands it. The staff consists of two or three people. >>>>=20 >>>> Almost everyone who commented on the DPRP article was blindsided by >>>> DPRP's stupidly misleading and sensationalistic headline: "Robert Fripp= >>>> Quit Music." That's poor English, for starters. What Robert has given u= p >>>> on is his role as a front-line, headlining, touring-in-poor-conditions >>>> performer and recorder of music that demands tour support. Robert is so= >>>> plugged into music that it drips in puddles around his feet. Music flit= s >>>> around his rounded head like moths 'round a light. Almost every day he >>>> does things with his fingers, heart, and ears (and what's between them)= >>>> than most of us could wish for. He's just sick of the crappy business >>>> surrounding the public performance and distribution of music. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 15:35:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B62AB183475; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 15:35:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 11:37:22 -0400 From: Douglas Baldwin Subject: Re: Live Looping on TV in Queens, NY To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <86F3C1BC57BA42B1A560CE31484C3BEE@Bedroom> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_x3JAO3P9O2YxiBOYJ5Vzsw)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120907-0, 09/07/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean References: <1F4E358B-41A1-41FA-99A0-40C5A0ECFF40@ubergadget.com> <3F3781E00E7E4CFEBA27BBFA90BBAC7D@SgtephPC> <02341395816245CEBA6002B54BF79735@Bedroom> <8CF5B230B1A78CC-2250-32B56@webmail-stg-m01.sysops.aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118189 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 15:35:30 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_x3JAO3P9O2YxiBOYJ5Vzsw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > you will have this video taped, yes? I have it on DVD. As I said, I'm gonna chop it up and YouTube it in pieces. I can't sell the DVD - it's a public access community station - but I might make it available for the cost of materials and postage, or some such. Shameless promotional plug: go to my web site and sign onto my email list, and I'll keep y'all posted on my adventures. Link is below. Douglas Baldwin Alpha Coyote coyotelk@optonline.net www.TheCoyote.org www.facebook.com/people/Douglas-Baldwin "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid. -- Frank Zappa --Boundary_(ID_x3JAO3P9O2YxiBOYJ5Vzsw) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
> you will have this video taped, yes?

I have it on DVD. As I said, I'm gonna chop it up and YouTube it in pieces. I can't sell the DVD - it's a public access community station - but I might make it available for the cost of materials and postage, or some such.
 
Shameless promotional plug: go to my web site and sign onto my email list, and I'll keep y'all posted on my adventures. Link is below.
 
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid.
-- Frank Zappa
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R= ig
From: Ted Killian <tedkillian@charter.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
<= b>Sent: Friday, September 7, = 2012 7:24 AM
Subject: Re: Fripp news

Well, we can't say we didn't see that coming.

= He's been talking about it for years.

On Sep 6, 2012, at 8:40 PM, Re= vfever wrote:

> Intense. But, I'll wager he will back to making m= usic after a certain period of time.  How could someone like him not d= o so? :-)
>
> http://www.dprp.net/wp/?p=3D7155
>
> Cheers-=
> Rev.Fever
> Portlandia
> http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever
= > http:= //www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental1
> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental2> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/skult
>



= ---495408613-374968767-1347034386=:30046-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 17:35:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31A0D183476; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 17:35:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Q+EIR9bFo6mLhAbNchLp1rObtZO2vDCbo2EWjoS64vY=; b=rey0jVxlGTQpsB38FJ39lZ1fgGkfA21+h1Z0/fhdrOm4wFN8bxD6eVASCkwTXF8VjO c0oVrU3McJJMrPe04yoPWUDRLFWrUWB+WiUglvNhHQ4awH0lps7QiGuiUq0fvKgpbijn dww5fVB269EjknVKgDNnkJmtw4o5nzRsmQRtze1poQf26HxiQjOstXBY6L5PDVTSWVTf nAABEJmuE5WgyfE5ulg0eyD1hDsFiDcTX7jdYRRHRUvRNn5DBTaxdjsnE5MNVhAJFwFg mnnv8d1YhzGM68a38tJDvYbx0/I7aKC3KTvxS3ADJyhugx7POXYUioy6tZLCa/BKr6KH 9syQ== Message-ID: <504A3076.2080600@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 19:35:50 +0200 From: Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Fripp news References: <1F4E358B-41A1-41FA-99A0-40C5A0ECFF40@ubergadget.com> <3F3781E00E7E4CFEBA27BBFA90BBAC7D@SgtephPC> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118191 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 17:35:53 +0000 (UTC) In the case of Fripp, there seems to be several issues he is or has been dealing with/suffering from (and the source for the majority of my statements here are Fripp's writings, either in liner notes or in his diary): 1. Ethics of the business model (aka "the old business model") in the recording industry 2. Ethics in fulfilling contractual obligations by specific members of the recording industry 3. Ethics of artist management (specifically: those who had represented Fripp during the 70s) 4. Borderlining-illegal conflict of interest in artist management 5. Unsound advice in financial matters (given to Fripp) 6. The unwillingness to continue existing as a touring musician 7. Press giving erroneous statements based on what someone allegedly said to them. So, first of all, that Fripp will never make music again (as it came over from the article) may or may not be the case (7). In fact, it seemed that Fripp had planned on something like this much earlier, especially when it came to King Crimson, but also other projects, but was forced to tour again to make up for severe financial losses in shady investment schemes (6, 5). We all had discussed (like about everybody else) the old business model (1) here, and of course Fripp did so, too. However, his situation was somewhat specific, and a lot of it has obviously to do with (2), (3) and (4), namely that for a considerable amount of time, Fripp (as many other KC members of that time) was represented as an artist by EG and was signed to the same EG as a record label. As Fripp said in one of his writings, a change began when in the 80s due to the collaboration with Belew in King Crimson, an artist within the band was suddenly represented by very competent management who was not the record label and for once tried to honor the interests of the artist. However, all of those issues in combination seem to be specific to Fripp (and maybe a handful of other artists), but can't be seen as a general statement about the viability of the old business model from an Artist's point of view. More specifically: if you were a top-selling artist in the olden days (like Fripp was), then you usually received your share, which, while by an ethical understanding was to small relatively, was still enough in absolute numbers to allow for a decent retirement. On a completely different approach, we've seen things like (6) happen in the past as well: Glenn Gould retired from touring very early, and later even retired from performing to focus on composing (and died a few days afterwards). So while this isn't the rule by any means (hey, we do all like to play on a big stage to an engaged audience, don't we?), it has been reported to happen... Rainer Am 07.09.2012 11:33, schrieb Per Boysen: > "The old business model" was based on the fact that records sold well. > http://www.dprp.net/wp/?p=7155 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 18:04:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 335C2183478; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 18:04:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 233757.2098.bm@omp1057.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1347041088; bh=s0agYt42VW443veRzpQ0dwse/qB+4EpffCweGC+qnbg=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wWVcNIuC1xkqAvMSDzQbKwzI81sfpvOhyTQcKQ2qgDN3unaqPzyaZdBt8OebGLUO8LfUqZxrnbBiLmVid0tPspA4wzduH2xnLCTnvv/aN83dFVCb18yNzqeeT65FTFPq5tBquAF72b5X+68fs5g/YYLiwGvYvdNsFabg9URCDp0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; 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charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <09_9wC.A.1OF.AdjSQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118192 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 18:04:49 +0000 (UTC) wow this is crazy you should look into it http://www.feb-news.net/jobs/?money=33812 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 18:47:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5465B183474; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 18:47:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 899389.74683.bm@omp1005.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; 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charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Subject: Re: HI From: Laurie Amat In-Reply-To: <1347041087.80346.BPMail_high_noncarrier@web124904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 11:47:50 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <1347041087.80346.BPMail_high_noncarrier@web124904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118193 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 18:47:49 +0000 (UTC) OK who got hacked? Got this through the Loopers mail.=20 On Sep 7, 2012, at 11:04 AM, John Tidwell wrote: >=20 > wow this is crazy you should look into it = http://www.feb-news.net/jobs/?money=3D33812 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 19:17:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2071F183474; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 19:17:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ztX/B3eDaeTJ1t2tOArMDC9GztexpHBsEsJd73V1Z+E=; b=gNotjOsXfsdj+XNm23EuYElIPFx8so6ldIoz24EJjgv/h4UjHxXIK5Zy1pUodDvCh/ k9RTdqa28iTlngUwvlahNh3YGhORcMGFSVGYRD2mPrzOlM8ZJA3W4iALDSXzeAlIxeFl 09PUJyqqU7Hamm7gn+H64N2ENPZ7m3rQXNQSvycqonnb4CiMQrwv9r1Zm8OiLETWABlS AU1yOom8GhNwc5D8DiYMSZ8GOKB+kL/nif/hcfPKeIMB0iQG+cGzyCEcsFM7i2nsNmFN HK8kau22me6HMERnmVsIMebu30zHUkvv31Vu5Fdanev1RGfu4gha13YfiwcEifpWXThe kFLg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1347041087.80346.BPMail_high_noncarrier@web124904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 21:17:10 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: HI From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118194 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 19:17:11 +0000 (UTC) I've noticed this on other lists as well and also for web forums where I subscribe to new posts as e-mails. It seems to be some script that detects names and e-mail addresses in your network just to send you a fake e-mail pretending to be a person in your network. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Laurie Amat wrote: > OK who got hacked? Got this through the Loopers mail. > On Sep 7, 2012, at 11:04 AM, John Tidwell wrote: > >> >> wow this is crazy you should look into it http://www.feb-news.net/jobs/?money=33812 >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 19:24:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36D51183463; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 19:24:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=KvBPNuSAc/D7czDSxtTiq9IJMRIEkaqW79RwqOWujl0=; b=cuC7DxoOvfIGVZMR+1mstGp+GkkKyRQyvFl75/0O4uawfDijxaMLbU0LYJUsXPrUwj 6Eu618JqttIYprMvE8DPK0Nx9LD9zIVl4BRnq3EZOr3WrZuhd4i68xuRaXv8uucMKbzM PFcwrERFzLi0FSaVxpxLxXKomwUZ99zINmkaz2z7AZYGJWiQTVqqP2KvPAm74Pwf1w/f WgdNHtHq/KFkTgCc7AyJZG+89Pe0ljyN8NJ/AyojSlkXmRcvGtfpIkOClvEPCTFTo/c0 MY0RWKJ9FvXBs5+9fzAu6S6pU0plFycZ5liX+t+VVP6CQMLJOWJEAfTDTe2y5Mcvq6z2 c3qQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1347041087.80346.BPMail_high_noncarrier@web124904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 15:24:19 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: HI From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0401697ff6d43d04c9218df0 Resent-Message-ID: <-m6drC.A.EQG.knkSQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118195 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 19:24:21 +0000 (UTC) --f46d0401697ff6d43d04c9218df0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I got it also. I just marked it spam. We'll see what happens. Jeff On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > I've noticed this on other lists as well and also for web forums where > I subscribe to new posts as e-mails. It seems to be some script that > detects names and e-mail addresses in your network just to send you a > fake e-mail pretending to be a person in your network. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Laurie Amat wrote: > > OK who got hacked? Got this through the Loopers mail. > > On Sep 7, 2012, at 11:04 AM, John Tidwell wrote: > > > >> > >> wow this is crazy you should look into it > http://www.feb-news.net/jobs/?money=33812 > >> > > > > --f46d0401697ff6d43d04c9218df0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I got it also. I just marked it spam. We'll see what happens.

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On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 3:1= 7 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
I've noticed this on other lists as well= and also for web forums where
I subscribe to new posts as e-mails. It seems to be some script that
detects names and e-mail addresses in your network just to send you a
fake e-mail pretending to be a person in your network.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.y= outube.com/perboysen


On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Laurie Amat <voicesound@att.net> wrote:
> OK who got hacked? Got this through the Loopers mail.
> On Sep 7, 2012, at 11:04 AM, John Tidwell wrote:
>
>>
>> wow this is crazy you should look into it http://www.feb-news.net/j= obs/?money=3D33812
>>
>


--f46d0401697ff6d43d04c9218df0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 20:06:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 86C2C183476; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 20:06:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ctF+3lHm4GEhCCAomLvZ5P34WaPwvO/O/NKNpOGjlss=; b=0qRHrEKXmeYXUbC6fSI6erhtlKNsSqfCxPC8DptZllVZapMbVglbIziRz3AA/Ykh+F P+mkZi7riZckf8vvDjjFbMKCECdTTn1fUhkG6FD911KUu63GoW5ll23GeSFYI/r4g6tV gAmxS2UzXRvBa7HnE6qmaUPO6zy7fGBINVfKZcBunt5svBf6uKz015Ngj+IusyhoHwLI Hb5JymlF1S5esf9mcm98y6PEqNzaWETqp6UC7bzEnJnk3MCdUjQBEIqZdkZlRdfym955 TlYLlEgDgVEf0snTQNcn/zfpqIwPsboROEGIPl2+HZ5F4P7M1dv/M6DE8noCXWUjoJeG Ql/A== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1347041087.80346.BPMail_high_noncarrier@web124904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 22:06:45 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: HI From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118196 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 20:06:46 +0000 (UTC) He, he... This board might be famous for it's "inspired off-topic" flavor, but only a robot would come up with the incredibly descriptive subject line "HI". Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > I got it also. I just marked it spam. We'll see what happens. > > Jeff > > > > > On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> I've noticed this on other lists as well and also for web forums where >> I subscribe to new posts as e-mails. It seems to be some script that >> detects names and e-mail addresses in your network just to send you a >> fake e-mail pretending to be a person in your network. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.perboysen.com >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Laurie Amat wrote: >> > OK who got hacked? Got this through the Loopers mail. >> > On Sep 7, 2012, at 11:04 AM, John Tidwell wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> wow this is crazy you should look into it >> >> http://www.feb-news.net/jobs/?money=33812 >> >> >> > >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 20:12:09 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 19BD8183476; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 20:12:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 393197.76273.bm@omp1036.mail.bf1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1347048728; bh=WneeYmUp0NZRazowBQ8Z9lKGiBkFzzcmY0feXrDzU3w=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ineh4cmR1CRfGC6jBMtZAJSqOVXee2knOvdajSbIvAg72+pSEWQkQRNoJcUYwzUV4Zvm5cpUKxqSRBiHDWmUH/Aq2lvDaqKHGLw0n/ECt4AhwEkTxRziKew0AgCeT4gKon1p9rSDIcTBg3Un7LAOWEdGAzLoo6fSrGayBJJlr6U= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2WOkIqgxAsWQdCqoacgtO33AD2I2u4h3eQ0g4HdnFdqgjJbCoPwJxtWf5+LbHyhsSLruyBujC7N/wHsKEvgSTVIBkJyIEAHLn13Flw4IpQJZKwdjW19HcYSUosimieHZ3G05Y0e/v00sm7k5VxBj6zFBkTDmpLARrDMUJmRW3pc=; X-YMail-OSG: fr8o9B4VM1kHTNLJK6ItFaTRa4pUtcy7xOpDtywFcgTJjwJ YwYXId0ya4fmNnIKlS001cynn7nISdoHkJY53k0graNKspZ2pSEuX6u.jdHT x0IfY.zFNqBUmGe3IFmm_DcV3K256rmLvvK.GAjYTeoCTQ.5l5SYCQHQy2TE FnzHcQwr5RLOL7sm04lFg.sD7d5RkJ0Jvvi9XipyUpU09H.CzuXzReCsrWCP Ou8fxNtE7Ik3hJYDGutQ0oGLXVF4JhNGW89nWiu34H4TPY_EnrYAstI3uRod lvIrkYWEuT1uS7.7AS21wfR468jegwnysZT1Jvqb0KXPLintWsKjg.GQ_NNq uFJE08Ucktsjpqh.OicljIBmUPQ9eAyMzXWxWLplNOjOq3RI4t4QNO0sYQPz Gsnf26JpjYOZM689KEFwmksknW6r4RcjLeDF1p6J73Jz8x1NjFf5gD4PQIsW 3qJFH0fw8l_Ce6klR8hnupndl78uoafzIkWHOvKFI7fZG.EDd4dqX_9Z3oOc n X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 References: <1F4E358B-41A1-41FA-99A0-40C5A0ECFF40@ubergadget.com> <3F3781E00E7E4CFEBA27BBFA90BBAC7D@SgtephPC> <504A3076.2080600@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <1347048728.2387.YahooMailNeo@web160402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 13:12:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Kiser Reply-To: Jeff Kiser Subject: Re: Fripp news To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: <504A3076.2080600@googlemail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-492277813-2135117133-1347048728=:2387" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118197 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 20:12:08 +0000 (UTC) ---492277813-2135117133-1347048728=:2387 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wrong "Robert" you idiot!=A0 I think Robert Fripp sang "Addicted To Love"= =0A- Zed=0AResent-From:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0AFrom: Chaz Wor= m =0ADate: September 7, 2012 11:07:55 AM EDT=0AT= o: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" =0ASubject: Re: Fripp news=0AReply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.c= om=0AI must admit out its a shame losing Robert Fripp to the looping commun= ity. =A0But honestly, I thought of all Led Zeppelin's members, Jimmy Page w= ould be most apt to experiment with looping. =A0Not Robert Fripp!?!"=0A=0AC= haz Worm - Electric Light Opry=0AFormer lead singer, bass and banjo for pun= kgrass supergroup Earth, Worm, &, Fire ---492277813-2135117133-1347048728=:2387 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Wrong "= Robert" you idiot!  I think Robert Fripp sang "Addicted To Love"
- Zed
Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deligh= t.com
From: Chaz Worm <chaz@earthwormandfire.com>
Date: September 7, 20= 12 11:07:55 AM EDT
To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<= /A>>
Subject: Re: Fripp news
Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-de= light.com

Chaz Worm - Electric Light Opry
Former lead singer, bass and = banjo for punkgrass supergroup Earth, Worm, &, Fire

---492277813-2135117133-1347048728=:2387-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 20:33:11 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E71D183473; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 20:33:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 903242.65344.bm@omp1004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1347049989; bh=Yz99DC3yb7SKnLlNLuKPNzcJyWU0a54fGZhFas1BlSU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AA53X/oS87XeW0AT6K4vxxT8R6U8gZqXxf1klF8CZEcpsIQQmHr0wumEQKkok1yg62zPMdxI+MvZv6Ets11Aj1OC9VRzKqapO8fP2E3B1kW3wcJwE8PheUWqzjPLZBzBrzAPXDiJIVWAhBDlgYgBlnJ/W5zmBDvtEXPx3cwHkXI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UOmjBuW5yHGU+UP8BTokQHS32yUPEhWFVyMzaBXpd1HJfE6zdWRvtBKas5HWa1pahztg15C+UGLC938WWbvlVoSQdGLm/gt7DGiTGT3mxWXuWBUR9kRm72nGxjXpUqou+YU26Ixr00bztxgiJQvo3SpbBvqEhmobpqnz1FfCta0=; X-YMail-OSG: qObjtxkVM1k0ziXhOw8.a96G9zZec4Mr0NZ6amk3J9oJpGE qoQoTWc2aiZOxB0ZX2zuvny6D7UdCgf84Vz6O3oAxMHy8MfdM9Dq38j5Gzob 2zsIwRdzOilgiVsg3I8tf2u9awJLMoQAIZNLc20K8kPqN513kbWW5CTXo96m NwVnO_WWhYP2zkCRWBPslXNJvTCIIS10gN_ZO.xuBRokz5cLbf0Pu8BoKwTT nzfaFCyj3oVSM9a998BUgt8fCvLUuXz8cEYiDeIeyVq1XoeUz3easVfc4hOr _Lcgj7CPmoO.VfIaouxyXI7HIlSA21PCmgT_OR2IWnbLV2_0txb3vhZqg_yC xq3XRYpMK_G1UNJFdqZMEJ7vLv3Kr9k7eSOY8Cx4xJHgN9DoRVXcNB47454J fIw_wtK4Gdo3Cj16LmMDCppsOkhT91kWXtj_CpKOQdk.Q7TTXBj4vZfGgQJE Cf6amVt8p_9gfCgBGkdkfVADTirreVax3006qpctx_Yz1Xfuof1wogKIMW6R RPxe1lHS.c51Jz4cj.6dx0lvn.IwxvqFO0Kubq8hxAcosJrYrCRaBlC_ULV0 HHpe_.G1hBZ9qUclybvw7.zX3qIl.kTDd.9UZ9JndJqPgdOz5J9ofgMFM97U jmgnepgkj0JRliamdEOWjHTWUb3tL80jQf.xfGfTsD8sC1lZ1mrXgy3nckDg KDcKgKfMCBfWc X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 References: <1347041087.80346.BPMail_high_noncarrier@web124904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1347049989.26751.YahooMailNeo@web32504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 13:33:09 -0700 (PDT) From: bill bigrig Reply-To: bill bigrig Subject: Re: HI To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-2002498609-2058773139-1347049989=:26751" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118198 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 20:33:11 +0000 (UTC) ---2002498609-2058773139-1347049989=:26751 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Oh yes. I saw that, but unlike the one 3 or 4 months ago, I deleted it. It came from a trusted relative. It then sent the same message out to ALL the listings of contacts. Some people need to find a different hobby than making computers and networks "wig out" rig ________________________________ From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Friday, September 7, 2012 12:17 PM Subject: Re: HI I've noticed this on other lists as well and also for web forums where I subscribe to new posts as e-mails. It seems to be some script that detects names and e-mail addresses in your network just to send you a fake e-mail pretending to be a person in your network. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Laurie Amat wrote: > OK who got hacked? Got this through the Loopers mail. > On Sep 7, 2012, at 11:04 AM, John Tidwell wrote: > >> >> wow this is crazy you should look into it http://www.feb-news.net/jobs/?money=33812 >> > ---2002498609-2058773139-1347049989=:26751 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Oh yes. I saw that, but unlike the one 3 or 4 months ago, I deleted it. It came from a trusted relative. It then sent the same message out to ALL the listings of contacts. Some people need to find a different hobby than making computers and networks "wig out"
rig
From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2012 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: HI

I've noticed this on other lists as well and also for web forums where
I subscribe to new posts as e-mails. It seems to be some script that
detects names and e-mail addresses in your network just to send you a
fake e-mail pretending to be a person in your network.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.youtube.com/perboysen


On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Laurie Amat <voicesound@att.net> wrote:
> OK who got hacked? Got this through the Loopers mail.
> On Sep 7, 2012, at 11:04 AM, John Tidwell wrote:
>
>>
>> wow this is crazy you should look into it http://www.feb-news.net/jobs/?money=33812
>>
>



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I think if any of us were in a situation where...=0A=0A- a record co= mpany had been selling two records we'd made and neither paying royalties n= or providing accounting figures for 19 years (in this case the Summers/Frip= p records), or=0A=0A- a record company whose contract explicitly denied the= m download rights was repeatedly making our music available for download on= iTunes without our consent, iTunes were taking the record company's word t= hat it was theirs to make available and demanding additional proofs from us= as the copyright holders, or=0A=0A- a record company, with which we had a = contract with terms that it became null and void if the record company was = acquired, was subsequently acquired and kept our music as an asset to inclu= de in its sale value and then hired lawyers to deny they had actually been = acquired even while the company that had acquired the original record compa= ny was itself in the process of being acquired=0A=0A... I think we might en= d up feeling a bit prickly too !=A0=0A=0A- Tony=0A=0A=0A=0A________________= ________________=0A From: Art Simon =0ATo: Loopers-Deligh= t@loopers-delight.com =0ASent: Friday, 7 September 2012, 6:44=0ASubject: Re= : Fripp news=0A =0AI love, adore, the music of Robert Fripp. But I'm gettin= g the=0Aimpression he's a bit prickly.=0A=0AOn Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 10:33 PM= , Gareth Whittock=0A wrote:=0A> So he's giving up= making music today over the release of music he made=0A> decades ago.=0A> = Many of artists work for little or no financial reward because that is thei= r=0A> raison d'etre.=0A> Seems odd to me.=0A>=0A> G=0A>=0A> Gareth Whittock= , sound artist: garethwhittock.co.uk=0A>=0A>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-d= elight.com=0A>> From: revfever@ubergadget.com=0A>> Subject: Fripp news=0A>>= Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 20:40:28 -0700=0A>=0A>>=0A>> Intense. But, I'll wage= r he will back to making music after a certain=0A>> period of time. How cou= ld someone like him not do so? :-)=0A>>=0A>> http://www.dprp.net/wp/?p=3D71= 55=0A>>=0A>> Cheers-=0A>> Rev.Fever=0A>> Portlandia=0A>> http://www.spirito= ne.com/~rvfever=0A>> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental1=0A>> http://www.cd= baby.com/cd/elemental2=0A>> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/skult=0A>>=0A>>=0A=0A= =0A=0A-- =0AArt Simon=0Asimart@gmail.com ---1613889061-136497878-1347051047=:91343 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hmm... I t= hink if any of us were in a situation where...

- a record company had been selling two re= cords we'd made and neither paying royalties nor providing accounting figur= es for 19 years (in this case the Summers/Fripp records), or

- a record company whose contract explicitly denied= them download rights was repeatedly making our music available for downloa= d on iTunes without our consent, iTunes were taking the record company's wo= rd that it was theirs to make available and demanding additional proofs fro= m us as the copyright holders, or

= - a record company, with which we had a contract with terms that it became = null and void if the record company was acquired, was subsequently acquired= and kept our music as an asset to include in its sale value and then hired lawyers to deny they had actually been acquired even while the compa= ny that had acquired the original record company was itself in the process = of being acquired

... I think we m= ight end up feeling a bit prickly too ! 

<= div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new = roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style= : normal; ">- Tony


=
From: Art = Simon <simart@gmail.com>
To= : Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Friday, 7 September 2012, 6:44
Subject: Re: Fripp news

I love, adore, the music of Robert Fripp. But I'm getting th= e
impression he's a bit prickly.

On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 10:33 PM,= Gareth Whittock
<buddhamachine@live.co.uk> = wrote:
> So he's giving up making music today over the release of mus= ic he made
> decades ago.
> Many of artists work for little or = no financial reward because that is their
> raison d'etre.
> Se= ems odd to me.
>
> G
>
> Gareth Whittock, sound art= ist: garethwhittock.co.uk
>
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> From: revfever@ubergadget.com
>> Subject: Fripp news
>>= Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 20:40:28 -0700
>
>>
>> Inten= se. But, I'll wager he will back to making music after a certain
>>= ; period of time. How could someone like him not do so? :-)
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>> http://www.dprp.net/wp/?p=3D7155
>>
>&g= t; Cheers-
>> Rev.Fever
>> Portlandia
>> http://www.spirito= ne.com/~rvfever
>> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental1
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>> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/skult
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>>



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simart@gmail.com


---1613889061-136497878-1347051047=:91343-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 7 22:58:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED350183474; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 22:58:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=sNqazHASXkzyFScKZYDG2LsyPFvsE+qm5xf3CXYAPZ4=; b=O6PNiOtgufY2AMREC8qawi5l/xgnqitrQ53pj2i94517DC1nWjnCQWThWeYQSGeAAb qK4sMGz+OK2epAgYgLNsoDy7F0GDXa/DoF8IDuFYUGMImDbfEeja3sH5lrrOW90bnZI5 E/2G3DoB7WvekIHGlQyf0uia2wV/PKu7pAo2PIJSRvVZMgPfH4PFClwqHH3TjsEUT3Ev w6f23hl7DydaSTfphQPZO/HGspTe9hWRvcmACCcRtFH/QHUKZxgC8q6/YBbrF0SlwCFp USEFyJ2VLUfiAedeuhs37LX3exyAQFLhHcTZ51TxG0KzY5GsSErXUjjMbvPWa0IwkQdb v/2w== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Fripp news From: Matthias Grob In-Reply-To: <1035151654.1620633.1347026049351.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 19:57:40 -0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <1035151654.1620633.1347026049351.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118200 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 22:58:14 +0000 (UTC) On 7 Sep 2012, at 05:29, Mark Hamburg wrote: > I have heard that Fripp mostly makes money from real estate. interesting... in some interview on youtube he said that he "only = recommends to become musician if there is no other option" >=20 > I suspect this is mostly a matter of being fed up with dealing with = the music industry. To the extent that he wants to make music, he may be = making the call that it's simpler and less stressful to just do it at = home for himself and Toyah and write off the industry. right, but he could still upload some stuff on soundcloud for us On 7 Sep 2012, at 06:46, Philip Conway wrote: > Actually creating new stuff entails risks and overheads; extracting = rents just requires a small army of lawyers and some posh offices. = That's 21st Century capitalism for you - all gain, no risk! yeah, the schizoid men... :-) On 7 Sep 2012, at 10:54, Christophe wrote: >=20 > I also seem to remember him taking a long sabbatical (I think he = called it retirement then, too) between the Lark's Tongues period (which = is still my favorite KC era) and the Discipline era over his = dissatisfaction with the biz. =20 i remember that he took the break after Red (which I like a lot), saying = that the band had become "too commercial" > I doubt his "retirement" will last forever. agreed. he knows about deeper reasons to create music (being a Gurdjieff = student) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 8 01:04:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A48E183475; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 01:04:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Q30BfrzMHSJ2KLhvj3VYN2QPMSbfopamX+4HJQX6pcM=; b=kYS7sZl2EKltAX7qAVtUWYG6O97p4FKwfmm+zlknPF9qij9sgAqlau43DcLaVaoqIp uaCjlc4JshOtO5DLWS1kPADv0sLkBOoxSIaXhMVEaBP5IzJqsHjxpC01DROtiU7hs9rV BleXc4sb19naXPeVgNF8YsYhPNjoEqMfa+WHCvxkKrURGfb42BaWzfgzXw2GTUCefuvO OlHZSFqamYTunARX8egLki69CO5cAbaYJRxT0cvve822euafesqAuULTqmhyRhVdRKX7 f99ZhdUSHhq4srEA6GKFt3WlOp/Ux5r0OUXvsigrpfrWztLPLUWBzgZ+HmTAQpVXekYM mALQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9DC37683-26F4-42B0-BCBA-5280E627B0AF@trufun.com> References: <1F4E358B-41A1-41FA-99A0-40C5A0ECFF40@ubergadget.com> <3F3781E00E7E4CFEBA27BBFA90BBAC7D@SgtephPC> <6EFF4032-3A2E-41EB-ABBF-7F7DE2139B7D@trufun.com> <9DC37683-26F4-42B0-BCBA-5280E627B0AF@trufun.com> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 18:04:50 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: online royalties From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb20264c0830b04c9264f86 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118201 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 01:04:51 +0000 (UTC) --e89a8fb20264c0830b04c9264f86 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Was this part of an earlier discussion? Here's my personal experience: I don't make much money with online CDs or shows. I think I get a lot more listens from having my music online. (It helps that 2 early CDs were reviewed by The Wire, and the artist-run record label I've been on has sent copies to college radio stations around the country.) According to last.fm, I have 282 people who have scrobbled at least one song by me. (Scobbled =3D played while the last.fm application was running.= ) I imagine less than 1/4 of people who buy music on the internet log their plays with last.fm, so that suggests at least 1000 people have downloaded at least one of my tracks (or bought a cd). That's nuts! 1000 people! And I=92m one of those people who is lucky if 10 people come to one of my gigs! However, like David says, there has been very little income from these sales. The other side of that is =96 like you can figure above, by having music released where people can download it, and since it=92s been reviewed and played on college radio stations, a LOT more people hear me from my CDs than at my concerts. When I finish my next release, I plan to try the radiohead thing =96 releas= e it for cheap (probably $5) on either bandcamp.com, or figure out how to do a web-release from my own website. Even if I sell 1/10 the downloads that I sell on iTunes/Amazon/Emusic, I=92ll probably make more income. But the big drive is that I=92d like to see who some of these people are who like my music! --=20 Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 7:27 AM, David Gans wrote: > > I sell downloads via CDBaby (which gets me onto iTunes, Amazon, Rhapsody, > etc.) and festivalink.net (which also gets me onto iTunes, Amazon and > HDTrack.net). CDBaby sends me money via PayPal whenever it the running > total exceeds $50, and that happens a few times a year so I think I'm in > the $200-250 range there. VERY few actual CDs go out that way any more. > > Festivalink.net has a couple of my live shows and two studio albums. The= y > offer downloads, CD on demand, and individual track sales. I was also pa= rt > of a performance of The American Beauty Project in 2007 that still sells > pretty well, so I get a few pennies from every sale of that one. I think= I > get maybe $300 a year from festivalink. > > My March 2012 statement from SoundExchange, reflecting online plays of al= l > my (registered) releases, was $126.68, comprising my composer's royalties > and my publisher's royalties (I am my own publisher, of course). SiriusX= M, > Pandora, and something called "webcasting proxy II" are my biggest outlet= s. > So again, not much money, but every little bit helps. > > I also get a few bucks from sales of my book "Conversations with the > Dead," which found new life as an eBook in the Kindle era. > > My point is that the lion's share of my income from music is from playing > live, not from sales of my recorded works. > > I love to record, and I put money aside for that as often as I can. When > I have enough to pay for studio time and some players, I record a song or > two. When I have enough songs for a CD, I'll put one out. It's great to > have CDs to sell at gigs. And in fact, that business has picked up > considerably this year: I sold 21 CDs at a festival in Ohio last Sunday a= nd > another dozen or so at a house concert the following day. > > > > > On Sep 7, 2012, at 6:34 AM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > > > As always LD is a valuable resource for communication and information o= n > many levels. What about downloads' income? > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com > Web site: http://www.dgans.com > Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans > Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans > > > > > --e89a8fb20264c0830b04c9264f86 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Was this part of an earlier discussion? Here's m= y personal experience:

I don't make much money with online CDs or shows. I think I get a lot m= ore listens from having my music online.
(It helps that 2 early CDs were reviewed by The Wire, and the artist-run re= cord label I've been on has sent copies to college radio stations around the country.)

According to last.fm, I have 282 people who = have scrobbled at least one song by me. (Scobbled =3D played while the last.fm a= pplication was running.) I imagine less than 1/4 of people who buy music on the internet log their plays with last.fm, so that suggests at least 1000 peop= le have downloaded at least one of my tracks (or bought a cd). That's nuts! 1000 people!=A0=A0 And I=92m o= ne of those people who is lucky if 10 people come to one of my gigs! However, = like David says, there has been very little income from these sales.

=A0

The other side of that is =96 like you can figure ab= ove, by having music released where people can download it, and since it=92s been reviewed and played on college radio stations, a LOT more people hear me fr= om my CDs than at my concerts.

=A0

When I finish my next release, I plan to try the rad= iohead thing =96 release it for cheap (probably $5) on either bandcamp.com, or figure out how to do a web-release from my own website. Even if I sell 1/10 the do= wnloads that I sell on iTunes/Amazon/Emusic, I=92ll probably make more income. But = the big drive is that I=92d like to see who some of these people are who like m= y music!


--
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusic.com
Podcast! http://ribosomematt.p= odomatic.com


On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 7:27 AM, David Ga= ns <david@trufun.com> wrote:
festivalink.n= et (which also gets me onto iTunes, Amazon and HDTrack.net). =A0CDBaby = sends me money via PayPal whenever it the running total exceeds $50, and th= at happens a few times a year so I think I'm in the $200-250 range ther= e. =A0VERY few actual CDs go out that way any more.

Festivalink.net has a couple of my live shows and two studio albums. =A0The= y offer downloads, CD on demand, and individual track sales. =A0I was also = part of a performance of The American Beauty Project in 2007 that still sel= ls pretty well, so I get a few pennies from every sale of that one. =A0I th= ink I get maybe $300 a year from festivalink.

My March 2012 statement from SoundExchange, reflecting online plays of all = my (registered) releases, was $126.68, comprising my composer's royalti= es and my publisher's royalties (I am my own publisher, of course). =A0= SiriusXM, Pandora, and something called "webcasting proxy II" are= my biggest outlets. =A0So again, not much money, but every little bit help= s.

I also get a few bucks from sales of my book "Conversations with the D= ead," which found new life as an eBook in the Kindle era.

My point is that the lion's share of my income from music is from playi= ng live, not from sales of my recorded works.

I love to record, and I put money aside for that as often as I can. =A0When= I have enough to pay for studio time and some players, I record a song or = two. =A0When I have enough songs for a CD, I'll put one out. =A0It'= s great to have CDs to sell at gigs. =A0And in fact, that business has pick= ed up considerably this year: I sold 21 CDs at a festival in Ohio last Sund= ay and another dozen or so at a house concert the following day.




On Sep 7, 2012, at 6:34 AM, Stephen Goodman wrote:

> As always LD is a valuable resource for communication and information = on many levels. =A0What about downloads' income?

David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com
Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730
Blog: =A0http:= //cloudsurfing.gdhour.com
Web site: http://www.dga= ns.com
Photos: ht= tp://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans
Music: http:/= /www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans









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--f46d0401f9293d54b404c933ace8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 9 07:16:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84F26183465; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 07:16:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=0j7VbtVi1bt60tlytnhiGsRvY29ilVd3UR4dFI5NU+k=; b=vtjCdpc6B6wIxWF2RaAVBC6OWbnYsiqbCwdfA98/87Cpdhr4NRIy4QbZ1dcbjHmh3L TbZ9DLd77h1I8f3LtaOXRFVAl8RYe/9cn0YWPhrnWUBvnHX/UiRpRr5IyYdprRIs5ECw 0ErQeqDnLJuO+cVuv+b/ANnJSGPBYkuMoAuak+hvWaGqNsDFf9ZON+eTpXYxMl+enKyJ iP3SDZA7T5x5IXoX4UIkHY4Tj012Z2CK9sfyJPDZnEQ2y2FWvfJvg5E1zqu43PUAwQ7C TLEh7Qz4ijjcNswWPwE42mkHKyLPEN2Mu68vY3kyEHX2g6EhPU4Wn3RF1JEzEKwNZnlH u1oQ== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Best battery powered looping pedal? From: Christopher Darrow In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 00:16:18 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <971B2B71-DAF3-47B5-BAC8-01172C9AAD6A@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118203 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 07:16:22 +0000 (UTC) Hi. I'm wondering if anyone has a particular opinion on the best battery = powered looping pedal.=20 - Currently available used. - New (if different)=20 I know I could rig power via alternative sources but for this possible = rig I'm looking for small and simple. (But of course responsive and at = least a little flexible like a real live looper.) Thanks for any thoughts.=20= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 9 09:47:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29519183474; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 09:47:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <2B8601F61BDA44179A05C8B6D3C7695C@SgtephPC> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <971B2B71-DAF3-47B5-BAC8-01172C9AAD6A@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Best battery powered looping pedal? Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 05:47:45 -0400 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3555.308 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118204 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 09:47:49 +0000 (UTC) I still have two Zoom 2100s I've used for over 13 years. -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Darrow Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 3:16 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Best battery powered looping pedal? Hi. I'm wondering if anyone has a particular opinion on the best battery powered looping pedal. - Currently available used. - New (if different) I know I could rig power via alternative sources but for this possible rig I'm looking for small and simple. (But of course responsive and at least a little flexible like a real live looper.) Thanks for any thoughts. = From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 9 11:11:59 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B527183473; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 11:11:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 804183125/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.183.141/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.183.141 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjYDAMJ4TFBV0reN/2dsb2JhbAANOLpDBAOEMAEBAQQ4QBELGAkWDwkDAgECAUUcAYgXpwmSTYsYgxKDHwObKY04 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,394,1344207600"; d="scan'208";a="804183125" Message-ID: <504C7984.2060202@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 12:12:04 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Best battery powered looping pedal? References: <971B2B71-DAF3-47B5-BAC8-01172C9AAD6A@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118205 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 11:11:59 +0000 (UTC) hi Chris, the Line 6 DL4 is a popular choice. ..and check out the Vox Delay Lab http://www.voxamps.com/uk/support/manuals/#delaylab which is more or less a souped up DL4. plus.......FEEDBACK!! minus......Half Speed :-( andy Christopher Darrow wrote: > Hi. I'm wondering if anyone has a particular opinion on the best battery powered looping pedal. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 9 13:31:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C36C183465; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 13:31:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=bUD4TF0DDTTbZ/uOKDgRneJnRZ9bI9ML9hatsFkCjaE=; b=A+GuW5ImzQWZ79N+P5gEN0SfxxGguPqZlrMEqNwZMMumnZnIXBngZa2m6NTo5fRgEp wZ2Vj7x3LWLVKsh9X+RrE1AtZko4vBf7elpy/34RcQwCsXwY9mg+qndwENhkzL7XptV+ FCXPDTrPQBeQb6Es+uKHpMHu6srx3zyrMWzHlSCISZY/tGGn66ukZsIXqYI/QHhrGDr8 Ict7C4Xu8s+cPZYqpwvGpMrBgDy+ziCjv1xwPffoV8j1TC32bgUxBYN3UX07rMOu8+3X sUKdzjkgf1CXPMGPCnLjrUVAS5hHJVz5J9wo4jPM5jQ2tGS1+4BICSiQAxkh6QyBgBld lItg== From: Simeon Harris Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: tascam dr08 blowout Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 14:35:55 +0100 Message-Id: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118206 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 13:31:15 +0000 (UTC) i know a lot of people use these, so i'd thought i'd give a heads up. = it's normally $200, but music123 is blowing them out for $79 http://www.music123.com/pro-audio/tascam-dr-08-linear-pcm-mp3-recorder sim= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 9 21:19:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BCD3E183465; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 21:19:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=bo0IvbnIbVcJOCIpoTsvHBKEpQRSIFtD/i/1zTio96o=; b=XENuD1OlPwm9/97WPwhEeuylVr5tUjkBXgErQH48H0cPkkS85/AnEK/p51mIPV9Xp8 DF07717AkzUIk/6OIeE2lw+iM92bzBAF8QYzBn1H1uSEDzPUHWUHADOzGeoyptKHKfND hNAC0oosdOsEUnBv/ynY5gORlYFp56GH1MAmct9Nin87RyU2IrSkCIfBWz8FQLRa9/rG JX325W7gjFoiFkNgDehvM2RDK8vTPW6nEwqax16bk+QAHr6MMcQvK1llWB1Di4r2KkQE JNYhUQqTR14eAd0cduxjF51TvTh0NQZxurLwFywMWS6cPKH6G/XRN0IpGHRY3MhqsfZ9 ht0A== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 23:19:21 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: K8AA-o7NAQZ29ty6gslENUhNt2I Message-ID: Subject: Octotrack... Still a mystery... To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b621e1242b88b04c94b66b5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118207 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 21:19:43 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b621e1242b88b04c94b66b5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have been intrigued by the Octotrack since it came out, and been listening with interest to Anders things, Im basically waiting around for the Evoloop, but now put a few things up for sale, so had a real good look at the machine again. First I read thru the whle of the manual, and then sat for a few hours going thru all the YouTubes... I have to say I still dont really understand thins thing, or what it can do!!! ow I basically understand the Pickup machine thing, seems like a pretty basic looper, with over dub, cant really see how it can do feedback or editing on the fly, or anything but its very hard to tell. Its seems to be mostly a drum-machine type thing, (which is good for me cos I have just not got on with the Electribe., so is one of the things for sale) Im looking for a pretty fluid and jammable drum-machine and sequencer, so I think Octo will do that for me, has some interesting muting and morphing of parameters... But what I really want to find out, because its the biggest thing stopping me from getting it, is what it feels like to use... Stupid question perhaps, but what i didnt like about the Electribe is POINTLESS two fingered button presses, you know SHIFT + a key. I can never remember what those are. On Octotrack its seems (from the YouTube vidz) that its all endless going in and out of menus, scrolling to parameter, or.. assigning things to things... JESUS:. Its looks just so obtuse! For example... in both manual and youtube... first thing its explains is the different levels of file structure, Top level is a Sett, then theres projects and an audio pool then a... a... a... I nodded off about now... Now I like the sound of some things, but I have no idea if Im understanding them correctly, like setting up rythmic triggers BEFORE the sample is recorded, and slicing seems a bit less obscure than on Electribe, but I really have no idea. Now much as I like what Im hearing from Anders, he aint playing the same kind of music as me, so I cant tell what I would do... So (I spose to Anders) before I blow 1000 dollars, is there loads of fiddling in menus, and preparation (Cos I dont have time for that). My music is amde by walking into my stdio and starting to play the guitar... I find and tweak patches as I go along, I loop bits, process bits and loop some more... then The kid comes in and asks me to play PlayStation with him, and I turn it all off... Or... I turn up at the cafe with my gear, my drummer turns up and we play... I dont have time for "programming" But want beats and drum-machine... so hows the experience of using Octotrack, what does it feel like? I dont mind "Learning Curve" but I mind bad interface, or having to have the manual handy... -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b621e1242b88b04c94b66b5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have been intrigued by the Octotrack since it came out, and been listenin= g with interest to Anders things, Im basically waiting around for the Evolo= op, but now put a few things up for sale, so had a real good look at the ma= chine again.

First I read thru the whle of the manual, and then sat for a few hours = going thru all the YouTubes... I have to say I still dont really understand= thins thing, or what it can do!!!
ow I basically understand the Pickup= machine thing, seems like a pretty basic looper, with over dub, cant reall= y see how it can do feedback or editing on the fly, or anything but its ver= y hard to tell. Its seems to be mostly a drum-machine type thing, (which is= good for me cos I have just not got on with the Electribe., so is one of t= he things for sale) Im looking for a pretty fluid and jammable drum-machine= and sequencer, so I think Octo will do that for me, has some interesting m= uting and morphing of parameters...

But what I really want to find out, because its the biggest thing stopp= ing me from getting it, is what it feels like to use... Stupid question per= haps, but what i didnt like about the Electribe is POINTLESS two fingered b= utton presses, you know SHIFT + a key. I can never remember what those are.= On Octotrack its seems (from the YouTube vidz) that its all endless going = in and out of menus, scrolling to parameter, or.. assigning things to thing= s... JESUS:. Its looks just so obtuse!

For example... in both manual and youtube... first thing its explains i= s the different levels of file structure, Top level is a Sett, then theres = projects and an audio pool then a... a... a... I nodded off about now...
Now I like the sound of some things, but I have no idea if Im understan= ding them correctly, like setting up rythmic triggers BEFORE the sample is = recorded, and slicing seems a bit less obscure than on Electribe, but I rea= lly have no idea.
Now much as I like what Im hearing from Anders, he aint playing the same ki= nd of music as me, so I cant tell what I would do...

So (I spose to = Anders) before I blow 1000 dollars, is there loads of fiddling in menus, an= d preparation (Cos I dont have time for that). My music is amde by walking = into my stdio and starting to play the guitar... I find and tweak patches a= s I go along, I loop bits, process bits and loop some more... then The kid = comes in and asks me to play PlayStation with him, and I turn it all off...= Or... I turn up at the cafe with my gear, my drummer turns up and we play.= .. I dont have time for "programming" But want beats and drum-mac= hine... so hows the experience of using Octotrack, what does it feel like?<= br>
I dont mind "Learning Curve" but I mind bad interface, or hav= ing to have the manual handy...

--
Mark= Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
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--047d7b621e1242b88b04c94b66b5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 9 21:57:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1FA41183465; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 21:57:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5/U3Sag3i+OrkdyY3jLNPx7Nj7knyWONXyPqX3iSe18=; b=IbOY3+vIAwEVXveOWAlJET3wCTW+LxjuYwqntEOuaqLM9kBXOwmtSpykrjnzs9mpd2 jvBuvwaGUpC8IrqZuypKyvrgb0WYA21JU6TRkGzYM6YMIJ6DRLc4YCbZITMfR7UKyDXC 63WTbTTu8rqXmzmSMzh4P4LxfDQeMZBIBdrwiIKqJRkOpWlLtIrd4xPT6+wm5KGTy3Wb CRsVwnUzLKAuX4Nk0+Iy83oZ1NbnIKRc75daYCt6qNJNMOotqelqyqN4//JzvWvkapJ2 B296Kcw0ka0OtyfIVzJJSTTJUSQ1DSaDUYjhtXG26/9IjXzTZjqpi48n+jvhJNZHbyNH jzFQ== Message-ID: <504D10A2.7030800@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 23:56:50 +0200 From: Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Octotrack... and similar stuff References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118208 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 21:57:05 +0000 (UTC) Am 09.09.2012 23:19, schrieb mark francombe: > I have been intrigued by the Octotrack since it came out, and been > listening with interest to Anders things, Im basically waiting around > for the Evoloop, but now put a few things up for sale, so had a real > good look at the machine again. With that phrasing you used above, and as most of your application would be drum-machine oriented, just out of curiosity: Has anyone here experience with the Maschine (NI, kinda-MPC-thingie?) Or, for a pure drum machine, the Tempest? Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 9 21:59:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD68A183477; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 21:59:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=vYPQi0nJS8SDtxmqEWz2ROjUz+p4PxGB0dsjiajYOz0=; b=QFTO+/pVMCqItUD1KZgx31YxbDAj4gXaWYUZSwAhhsTkt/IhnCeYXU8/KCTu33O2rw mdfhyyEVv9s5N3hstgXHEpd+6gvVHT5Ip/3NLj9cmVJpGINvecxvucyBYRHDIjK1nfLQ e8czMgNNwZeJEg4TAhLD0BVwo1NaSxoL0cwHYdiFZ0cX6norQ/CnK8LAd8Tj2nOZ842K I6Gm7elrXWenT8g7XdVmUETO7RT7vCSHTEuI16UXtQef9wdp7LwhUEy0kTOgy15N6fKn 4k4DB2AVSrKyrAbE3d50BABYv7XN5J3GcKhQGvFVjAU6e3SxWTI0RpISwycAQv8zii8c UgiQ== Subject: Re: Octotrack... and similar stuff References: <504D10A2.7030800@googlemail.com> From: Todd Reynolds Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) In-Reply-To: <504D10A2.7030800@googlemail.com> Message-Id: <76AC2930-0BBA-4836-B153-9D9D1CE86C62@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 17:58:55 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118209 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 21:59:00 +0000 (UTC) I'm a Maschine guy.=20 Or call me at 917.576.6166 (or text) On Sep 9, 2012, at 5:56 PM, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > Am 09.09.2012 23:19, schrieb mark francombe: >> I have been intrigued by the Octotrack since it came out, and been listen= ing with interest to Anders things, Im basically waiting around for the Evol= oop, but now put a few things up for sale, so had a real good look at the ma= chine again. > With that phrasing you used above, and as most of your application would b= e drum-machine oriented, just out of curiosity: >=20 > Has anyone here experience with the Maschine (NI, kinda-MPC-thingie?) Or, f= or a pure drum machine, the Tempest? >=20 > Rainer >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 9 22:42:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FDC5183473; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 22:42:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=gPROO9rH/TFEIxe08QFcLAjky/VQy684F6VB56w2J6M=; b=yavojMCWZdhQC48Dd+1bnKNBEGGMq+DUYXX1J6deDm7aEUjvWtYQ1b0ZdKwc/mM3LZ z3UvPjLXDTPSYvKZVTOuKQKaFe4P6opoN8lw5Z3tkMSpqlrqUbM0IOfbWaT4G22ss0aK ByGD1U6IKVoCetonsv/Sbg4JQpXYdfs+7qN5OPPHlGcbxj1igN8CRibI+BBiu7T7cRmm l6UqKT7RsZCYFVZpzA+Qx7hGKBFZGf8utnD6QA1A6UkuPAbt28PsfVApRTc4fHuqo0aE Gqf4tsAN8cGk/iQ1Zau2eHc0Td+QtZzmHUXJ8AKG9BTWxj30sR+tyxeFVRruaaVEf2Il j+kQ== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Subject: Re: Performing with a dancer From: philip In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 07:41:22 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <38583EB9-2201-465B-B34D-0795B54DFB70@gmail.com> References: , To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118210 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 22:42:07 +0000 (UTC) That sounds like a cool project. I do dance music too. It's not exactly live looping in LD terms, but if were in the same = situation, I would prepare some danceable beats in advance that your = brother can work up some moves to. The looping can be done with musical = improvisations over the loops and moving between beats.=20 An alternative may be to make beats from scratch at the show with your = brother and for him to dance once a danceable beat is up and running. = That could add some interest to the show.=20 Either way, I think a lot of practice time together will give you a good = feel for what the other can do as well as give you some ideas to fall = back on.=20 I'm looking forward to the video! P= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 01:15:29 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0175183460; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 01:15:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 487 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 01:15:28 UTC References: <504D10A2.7030800@googlemail.com> <76AC2930-0BBA-4836-B153-9D9D1CE86C62@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <76AC2930-0BBA-4836-B153-9D9D1CE86C62@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) From: Mark Hamburg Subject: Re: Octotrack... and similar stuff Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 18:07:15 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118211 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 01:15:28 +0000 (UTC) Along that vein, there's also Arturia's Spark but I have used neither Maschi= ne nor Spark. Mark On Sep 9, 2012, at 2:58 PM, Todd Reynolds wrote: > I'm a Maschine guy.=20 >=20 > Or call me at 917.576.6166 (or text) >=20 > On Sep 9, 2012, at 5:56 PM, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: >=20 >> Am 09.09.2012 23:19, schrieb mark francombe: >>> I have been intrigued by the Octotrack since it came out, and been liste= ning with interest to Anders things, Im basically waiting around for the Evo= loop, but now put a few things up for sale, so had a real good look at the m= achine again. >> With that phrasing you used above, and as most of your application would b= e drum-machine oriented, just out of curiosity: >>=20 >> Has anyone here experience with the Maschine (NI, kinda-MPC-thingie?) Or,= for a pure drum machine, the Tempest? >>=20 >> Rainer >>=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 04:32:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F4AE18345C; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 04:32:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_7977dc24-858f-41cd-b451-bd439712748d_" X-Originating-IP: [70.29.94.149] From: Jack C To: Subject: RE: Octotrack... Still a mystery... Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 04:32:51 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Sep 2012 04:32:52.0038 (UTC) FILETIME=[56FCFE60:01CD8F0D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118212 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 04:32:53 +0000 (UTC) --_7977dc24-858f-41cd-b451-bd439712748d_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I must say=2C the "feel" of what your using is important if you ain't progr= amming. That's one thing that kinda sucks about using PC's or Mac's. Yes=2C= they are powerful and limitless=2C but nothing compares to the feel of har= dware. On Sep 9=2C 2012=2C at 11:19 PM=2C Mark wroteMy mu= sic is amde by walking into my stdio and starting to play the guitar... I f= ind and tweak patches as I go along=2C I loop bits=2C process bits and loop= some more... then The kid comes in and asks me to play PlayStation with hi= m=2C and I turn it all off... Or... I turn up at the cafe with my gear=2C m= y drummer turns up and we play... I dont have time for "programming" But wa= nt beats and drum-machine... = --_7977dc24-858f-41cd-b451-bd439712748d_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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My music is amde by walking into my stdio and= starting to play the guitar... I find and tweak patches as I go along=2C I= loop bits=2C process bits and loop some more... then The kid comes in and = asks me to play PlayStation with him=2C and I turn it all off... Or... I tu= rn up at the cafe with my gear=2C my drummer turns up and we play... I dont= have time for "programming" But want beats and drum-machine...
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= --_7977dc24-858f-41cd-b451-bd439712748d_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 05:06:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACAA918345B; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 05:06:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <504D7545.3050000@theambientping.com> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 01:06:13 -0400 From: PiNG Reply-To: ping@theambientping.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ambient@hyperreal" , Dark Seeds , Drone Deep Chill , Loopers Delight , The Ambient Way Subject: 09.11.12 > The PiNG presents dreamSTATE w Pholde & Phil Ogison + Dogma I + Amoeba Starfish + General Chaos Visuals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020202.504D7548.00A5,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118213 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 05:06:17 +0000 (UTC) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 09.11.12 . THE AMBiENT PiNG presents THE RETURN OF THE dreamSTATE DRONE CYCLE 2012 . Part Nine . (E) featuring dreamSTATE with Pholde & Phil Ogison + sets by Dogma I + Amoeba Starfish + projections by General Chaos Visuals @ Supermarket . 268 Augusta Ave . Kensington Market just south of College . Map, info and directions at: http://www.supermarkettoronto.com/site/section/contact Tues. Sept. 11th . Doors open at 8:00 . 1st set at 8:30 . $6 8:30 . DOGMA I (DOMINIQUE BANOUN & ALAN BLOOR) . Visitors to the Somewhere There performance art space will be familiar with the many musical sides of Alan Bloor and Dominique Banoun, but the PING has mostly only witnessed Alan playing metal as Pholde and sometimes as Knurl so we've invited both Alan and Dominique to do something a little different to open the night. 9:15 . dreamSTATE with PHOLDE + PHIL OGISON . There's no better key than E so dreamSTATE invited guitarist PHIL OGISON and PHOLDE (Alan Bloor) to help them space out for the 9th instalment of the drone. This melding of metal, strings and electronics will surely result in a klangerous blend of progressive psychedelia. http://www.dreamstate.to 10:15 . AMOEBA STARFISH . Amoeba Starfish is Phil Ogison (electric guitars and synths) and Jeff Howard (e-percussion, non-keyboard synths and vocal driven textures). Guaranteed to thrill you with sounds much larger than you'd expect from a duo who, having played together off and on for over 20 years, now choose to freely improvise completely live. Imagine elements of progressive jazz/rock fusion, ambient soundscapes and alt rock tumbled together into a unique quadrant of space called Quantum Jazz! http://www.reverbnation.com/amoebastarfish# . GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS . When it comes to progressive psychedelia who better than the chaotic duo, Stephen Lindsey and Eric Siegerman, to paint the room with mind bending light, shadow and fog. http://www.generalchaosvisuals.ca . Though media-man Johnny Trelawny and his VoodooTV have moved on from Supermarket (Thanks for all the shows Johnny!), those in the know last month caught a new PiNG Livestream that was set up and streaming thanks to Jeff Howard. We're going to try to get the stream flowing again this month for those of you outside of Toronto so you might still be able to plug in to the PiNG's virtual window to have a listen and sneak a peek: http://www.livestream.com/theambientping . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . COMiNG SOON: . Tuesday October 9th 2012 . THE PiNG's presents The RETURN of the dreamSTATE DRONE CYCLE . Part Ten . (D#) featuring dreamSTATE with BEN GROSSMAN & HUGH MARSH plus a set by HUGH MARSH and BEN GROSSMAN plus projections by GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS @ Supermarket . 268 Augusta Ave . Kensington Market just south of College . Map, info and directions at: http://www.supermarkettoronto.com/site/section/contact PiNG doors open at 8 . 1st set at 9:00 . $6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . FREE MP3 DOWNLOAD from the ping things' net label archives: -> Pholde "Of Uncertain Aspect" <- "Of Uncertain Aspect" by Pholde features music taken from a live performance at the PiNG that captures the unique sound stylings of Alan Bloor at his best. Using found metal objects that are bowed, stroked and struck percussively, Bloor creates a fascinating and inspiring aural landscape that builds and grows organically over time, engaging the listener in a challenging but ultimately rewarding listen. "Of Uncertain Aspect" is available for free download as a 48 Mb Zip file containing the full release in high quality 256kbps mp3 format along with artwork suitable for printing. The music on this release is copyright Alan Bloor 2008/2009 and may not be used or reproduced without the artist's express permission. Download "Of Uncertain Aspect" by Pholde here: http://pingthings.blogspot.ca/2009/10/download-of-uncertain-aspect-by-pholde.html For more free online releases from the ping things net label go to: http://www.pingthings.com/PTlabel.htm . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THE AMBiENT PiNG is a Toronto based creative community of audio artists, performers, musicians and visual artists. The PiNG presents live multimedia performances featuring ambient, electronic, soundscape, space, drone, psychedelic, chillout, downtempo, darkwave and experimental artists from around the world. http://www.theambientping.com The PiNG also has a Twitter account to send you advance updates and reminders of the when & where of future PiNG events. Just search for ambientping to find us. http://twitter.com We're also on facebook too, again just search THE AMBiENT PiNG. http://www.facebook.com ViSiT the ping things store for ambient, electronic and chill things: http://www.pingthings.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Please forward this e-mail to any interested friends or appropriate newsgroups. Thanks. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 08:56:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4AE20183460; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 08:56:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=MXbo4/x7Lqm7qVgfibNUfcFd2TyJTL7YDVBB8khq1Rc=; b=QQzztmZanGGL7/tVmbnuR8iR1KGOi37NlZkZWaz8YoZBAWZj/vEFabXM3G9UTiojkT /Ah1Qftqdu1XGd9ISlX/os2AT/jxqfOunslQq23ZygH1lQ5q+ofNE/RkDhaR3zwqxz/z isJHgBO/bMZoMXDG41J53fbGEXkJPpr7Y5ck14lduGvpURhN8fUL/L4KybjLcVdNBSo1 PShyUShqPSw9okRD4PeB0AQk7Q3nhk+lmysUrVLibkFDelbprPK5OR9+Ks/6zBK5kJN0 DtegrhWjGbxHQjzGzqYu2Z0EyJszALtcrJ2J6ldWg+4KWH5dP2sGxA0MZZLp+0z+VoHY Wvtw== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Subject: Re: Octotrack... and similar stuff From: philip In-Reply-To: <504D10A2.7030800@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:56:00 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <74C116CE-BE9B-4ABD-A3FF-E15C129992DB@gmail.com> References: <504D10A2.7030800@googlemail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118214 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 08:56:38 +0000 (UTC) I have a Tempest. It's an amazing machine, but a lot of people (myself = included) are experiencing MIDI sync problems. According to DSI, those = problems will be addressed, but I need my gear to sync--so I'm back to = the old Roland x0x gear--which I am having quite a bit of fun with. Also the Tempest does weird stuff at very inopportune times, so I = wouldn't consider it a solid performance-ready bit of kit. Gearslutz has = a long thread discussing the Tempest, and DSI has an entire forum = devoted to it. I'll be selling mine to fund an 808. Not as nearly as = versatile, but 808s are easy, fun and solid as a rock. If the problems with the Tempest are ever ironed out, I may consider = getting one again. But I'm tired of waiting. P On Sep 10, 2012, at 6:56 AM, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill = wrote: > Am 09.09.2012 23:19, schrieb mark francombe: >> I have been intrigued by the Octotrack since it came out, and been = listening with interest to Anders things, Im basically waiting around = for the Evoloop, but now put a few things up for sale, so had a real = good look at the machine again. > With that phrasing you used above, and as most of your application = would be drum-machine oriented, just out of curiosity: >=20 > Has anyone here experience with the Maschine (NI, kinda-MPC-thingie?) = Or, for a pure drum machine, the Tempest? >=20 > Rainer >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 09:07:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C972183461; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:07:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Tristan Zand Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_861AE3C9-1019-420B-9CFF-D1535216E7FC" Subject: Re: Octotrack... Still a mystery... Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:08:03 +0200 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <0A316B4A-EDD6-4D76-8AB2-B56192E77A31@zzz.ch> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118215 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:07:43 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_861AE3C9-1019-420B-9CFF-D1535216E7FC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Following the OT discussion, very interesting, thought I'm not a big fan = of that machine, I'm open to changing my mind. I definitely am part of those who like the 'hardware' fell of looping = instruments. That's what we're trying to develop in our small software = app Loopr (http://loopr.net). I like to play with something that really feedbacks well, with fast and = solid response rather than complex, obscure, menu-oriented, = computer-specialist-like apps.. If some of you want to try, ask me for a promo code for the iOS app. I = still have 5 for this version if some of you want to try the thing. It's = only a v1, so the options are still quite limited, but as I use it as my = main tool, it's definitely going towards something chunkier with the = updates. And looking forwards to more of that OT stuff!!!! Cheers, :) z http://zzz.ch http://loopr.net On 10 sept. 2012, at 06:32, Jack C wrote: > I must say, the "feel" of what your using is important if you ain't = programming. That's one thing that kinda sucks about using PC's or = Mac's. Yes, they are powerful and limitless, but nothing compares to the = feel of hardware. >=20 > On Sep 9, 2012, at 11:19 PM, Mark wrote > My music is amde by walking into my stdio and starting to play the = guitar... I find and tweak patches as I go along, I loop bits, process = bits and loop some more... then The kid comes in and asks me to play = PlayStation with him, and I turn it all off... Or... I turn up at the = cafe with my gear, my drummer turns up and we play... I dont have time = for "programming" But want beats and drum-machine... --Apple-Mail=_861AE3C9-1019-420B-9CFF-D1535216E7FC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Following the OT discussion, very interesting, = thought I'm not a big fan of that machine, I'm open to changing my = mind.
I definitely am part of those who like the 'hardware' fell of = looping instruments. That's what we're trying to develop in our small = software app Loopr (http://loopr.net).
I like to = play with something that really feedbacks well, with fast and solid = response rather than complex, obscure, menu-oriented, = computer-specialist-like apps..
If some of you want to try, = ask me for a promo code for the iOS app. I still have 5 for this version = if some of you want to try the thing. It's only a v1, so the options are = still quite limited, but as I use it as my main tool, it's definitely = going towards something chunkier with the updates.
And looking = forwards to more of that OT = stuff!!!!
Cheers,
:)
z

On = 10 sept. 2012, at 06:32, Jack C wrote:

I must say, the "feel" of what your using is = important if you ain't programming. That's one thing that kinda sucks = about using PC's or Mac's. Yes, they are powerful and limitless, but = nothing compares to the feel of hardware.

On Sep 9, 2012, at =
11:19 PM, Mark <mark@markfrancombe.com> =
wrote
My music is amde by walking into my stdio and starting to = play the guitar... I find and tweak patches as I go along, I loop bits, = process bits and loop some more... then The kid comes in and asks me to = play PlayStation with him, and I turn it all off... Or... I turn up at = the cafe with my gear, my drummer turns up and we play... I dont have = time for "programming" But want beats and = drum-machine...

= --Apple-Mail=_861AE3C9-1019-420B-9CFF-D1535216E7FC-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 09:11:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A080A183455; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:11:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oscillicious.com; s=google; h=mime-version:sender:x-originating-ip:date:x-google-sender-auth :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=PSOZM5eX/72zCD5u/XA7H+l/4ULyUJzOwVCGl+HBJ4g=; b=bQ6X/GshA5bKMMkLKVVtU0U9/KSU5QXg3sS/4RX9YXQ6Exa6rx9+7MDhHmHwvIucPM M9xDLosVx6x3jPkoAOhd3mRPBD3cotDQDLPf9d29ZiN2skN8ytVoGdSgEvR26vFQJumi 6iu1x4Ig+DuvgEzqAOV8M1oYXSeexdCbqxUfA= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:x-originating-ip:date:x-google-sender-auth :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=PSOZM5eX/72zCD5u/XA7H+l/4ULyUJzOwVCGl+HBJ4g=; b=GtZeszyj00MK2g5j/eCGAfiF9pvqPiXoguxI5M9FNOjb3UCjKd/WL8unP4hHT5bGtk 2+wlRiawvKWtywz4jMGYoY0zint9DKSUnq+lANdUqaqwazHmb7akg60mKtSmOGWF4S+m hFPyVx4kYAnAfrxJtEV1d2NKTd2/4xXfYBq5U5a/i8G6KQf9OuAw0BLbSsyv6fmFLZmV i2CuOFvbJ7M19dsg0+Z+kQHr/mrB02lcJCk7WcBliDIAgMJ9WtzMgyACrRBO3Ozqjttr Ji6kkXKEX1oenUa8Ivmuw//m3+2J1ml/fwsiPSj9afY5KmfCNgRPwdVb6WcN8YUsxtNo H0mQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: support@oscillicious.com X-Originating-IP: [83.163.0.81] Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:11:15 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d3V18MNdeS4SA6GH9Acm-qeJmXY Message-ID: Subject: SongStarter update: External Recording From: Albert Santoni To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkJ0+ny32hj6rHwnMV4ItOgfBLcfPWh+MxFfGfxkCIkWoPDzXRalNpNjqH0KtBN9HIYPas+ Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118216 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:11:16 +0000 (UTC) Hi guys, I just added a feature that probably makes SongStarter a lot more interesting for some of you - External audio recording. You can now record from your soundcard or mic into the loop recorder in SongStarter, so you can now think of it as a mini live looper that also captures MIDI for rapid songwriting. If you want the full scoop, I've just posted an update on the blog: http://oscillicious.com/blog/songstarter-beta-updated-now-with-external-recording/ And if you want to download the free beta, you can grab it from here: http://www.oscillicious.com/songstarter As always, any feedback would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Albert -- Albert Santoni Lead Developer | Oscillicious Delicious Audio Tools and Plug-ins Bring new life to classic sounds with SodaSynth VST / AU: http://www.oscillicious.com/sodasynth Slice beats faster with BeatCleaver: http://www.oscillicious.com/beatcleaver From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 09:32:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8206183460; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:32:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Qt+Jkhkk1h1UVZO1vUJQKrktCgY1/CNrda5nurge5F4=; b=MkfBM7FYiUnnPFOhvlFL1wUNJpaTi1ohtIsgIYme4yAogQrCjg0j2sWt127yVkzW7X LAxvEZBqom38UZ9tsJpEVAHoOTxuYF0IhBVrVUqT/iMSSYAC5mWreI44yjJr1zEjvRa2 luSxxCJkiCefhNGHyPnSeri6uTRre+jvHEBso79AfjgX7GWvcIpbhSZIjtXEEEfsBXCw PvulIYECmEMMRrgknwzTaOMAAj/j2b0g3ZZO0Gd3TuW3xWFjPU0Lq2NkMfe7iE3oPiFM ANrUCqWCJpz+OjvdgZbgxijf75wVSz7YkfNqvLoxtXpx18nzYKbDTQ3CESFN2WoK++VI CzLA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:32:40 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Octotrack... Still a mystery... From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118217 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:32:41 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:32 AM, Jack C wrote: > I must say, the "feel" of what your using is important if you ain't > programming. That's one thing that kinda sucks about using PC's or Mac's. > Yes, they are powerful and limitless, but nothing compares to the feel of > hardware. I totally agree with this! When I moved from a four-track cassette "portastudio" to a classic setup with eight-track real-to-real tape machine, mixing console, patchbay and racks of effect devices I experience a total blockage of creativity. The new thing I had to learn, that is the same that you have to do if using software today, was to memorize and get experience of all possibilities so I could internalize the complete workflow in my mind and sort of "compose" with sound design and production work all within my imagination. That's a powerful method to create but the big downside is that the method never leads outside the limitations of your own "safe-zone". Comparing hardware and software I'd say that the only way to make software tools breathe the same work feel as hardware is to set them up as hardware. Ie limiting the options to whatever may work well with the connected controller hardware. I currently use a laptop based performance system and have gravitated to a pedalboard with banks of ten switches and four expression pedals plus a minimal hand mixer/button-pad. I gaffa taped the USB hub so I just pop in three USB cables (or four if a GR-55 is up for the gig) and plug guitars and mic into the RME sound box. I've streamlined my setup so much that it works almost exactly the same if hosted in Ableton Live, Mainstage or in Bidule. My switches and knobs all do the same things to the music no matter what host applications is running in the laptop. If talking work-flow that really is a hardware approach. The nice thing with geting directly into something like the Octatrack is that someone has already done the planning and patching for you. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 10:31:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB28A183461; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:31:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_a7d84835-97e6-4996-af59-80bbc4e60262_" X-Originating-IP: [217.92.117.212] From: Sergio G Sender: To: Subject: RE: Octotrack... Still a mystery... Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:31:04 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <0A316B4A-EDD6-4D76-8AB2-B56192E77A31@zzz.ch> References: ,<0A316B4A-EDD6-4D76-8AB2-B56192E77A31@zzz.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Sep 2012 10:31:05.0291 (UTC) FILETIME=[61F721B0:01CD8F3F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118218 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:31:06 +0000 (UTC) --_a7d84835-97e6-4996-af59-80bbc4e60262_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nice=2C but=2C only for Mac? From: zzz@zzz.ch Subject: Re: Octotrack... Still a mystery... Date: Mon=2C 10 Sep 2012 11:08:03 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Following the OT discussion=2C very interesting=2C thought I'm not a big fa= n of that machine=2C I'm open to changing my mind.I definitely am part of t= hose who like the 'hardware' fell of looping instruments. That's what we're= trying to develop in our small software app Loopr (http://loopr.net).I lik= e to play with something that really feedbacks well=2C with fast and solid = response rather than complex=2C obscure=2C menu-oriented=2C computer-specia= list-like apps..If some of you want to try=2C ask me for a promo code for t= he iOS app. I still have 5 for this version if some of you want to try the = thing. It's only a v1=2C so the options are still quite limited=2C but as I= use it as my main tool=2C it's definitely going towards something chunkier= with the updates.And looking forwards to more of that OT stuff!!!!Cheers= =2C:)zhttp://zzz.chhttp://loopr.net On 10 sept. 2012=2C at 06:32=2C Jack C wrote:I must say=2C the "feel" of wh= at your using is important if you ain't programming. That's one thing that = kinda sucks about using PC's or Mac's. Yes=2C they are powerful and limitle= ss=2C but nothing compares to the feel of hardware. On Sep 9=2C 2012=2C at 11:19 PM=2C Mark wroteMy mu= sic is amde by walking into my stdio and starting to play the guitar... I f= ind and tweak patches as I go along=2C I loop bits=2C process bits and loop= some more... then The kid comes in and asks me to play PlayStation with hi= m=2C and I turn it all off... Or... I turn up at the cafe with my gear=2C m= y drummer turns up and we play... I dont have time for "programming" But wa= nt beats and drum-machine... = --_a7d84835-97e6-4996-af59-80bbc4e60262_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nice=2C but=2C only for Mac?

From: zzz@zzz.ch
Subject: Re: Octotrack... S= till a mystery...
Date: Mon=2C 10 Sep 2012 11:08:03 +0200
To: Loopers= -Delight@loopers-delight.com

Following the OT discussion=2C very int= eresting=2C thought I'm not a big fan of that machine=2C I'm open to changi= ng my mind.
I definitely am part of those who like the 'hardware' fell = of looping instruments. That's what we're trying to develop in our small so= ftware app Loopr (http://loo= pr.net).
I like to play with something that really feedbacks = well=2C with fast and solid response rather than complex=2C obscure=2C menu= -oriented=2C computer-specialist-like apps..
If some of you want = to try=2C ask me for a promo code for the iOS app. I still have 5 for this = version if some of you want to try the thing. It's only a v1=2C so the opti= ons are still quite limited=2C but as I use it as my main tool=2C it's defi= nitely going towards something chunkier with the updates.
And loo= king forwards to more of that OT stuff!!!!
Cheers=2C
:)=
z

On 10 sept. 2012=2C at 06:32=2C Jack C= wrote:

I must say=2C = the "feel" of what your using is important if you ain't programming. That's= one thing that kinda sucks about using PC's or Mac's. Yes=2C they are powe= rful and limitless=2C but nothing compares to the feel of hardware.

= 
On Sep 9=2C 2012=2C at 11:19 PM=2C Mark <=3Bmark@markfrancombe.com>=3B wrote
My music is a= mde by walking into my stdio and starting to play the guitar... I find and = tweak patches as I go along=2C I loop bits=2C process bits and loop some mo= re... then The kid comes in and asks me to play PlayStation with him=2C and= I turn it all off... Or... I turn up at the cafe with my gear=2C my drumme= r turns up and we play... I dont have time for "programming" But want beats= and drum-machine...

=
= --_a7d84835-97e6-4996-af59-80bbc4e60262_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 10:48:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F231183451; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:48:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_9ec780c7-8633-4631-943c-ed42ce96580c_" X-Originating-IP: [217.92.117.212] From: Sergio G Sender: To: Subject: @Anders, for the OT (I make it public so that anybody can learn more about the OT) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:48:55 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Sep 2012 10:48:54.0730 (UTC) FILETIME=[DF6692A0:01CD8F41] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118219 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:48:55 +0000 (UTC) --_9ec780c7-8633-4631-943c-ed42ce96580c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Anders! I have three questions for you! :) 1) do you know if there are trusty=2C reliable video tutorial about the OT= =2C starting from ZERO (for who just opened the package)=2C and with the ne= w OS?In Synthopia I saw a video which drove me CRAZY till I realized "damn= =2C wait=2C maybe it was made with an old OS". It was IMPOSSIBLE to reprodu= ce what he was doing... :) And it was indeed made with the first OS! 2) I see that the quick live usability could be a problem with all those me= nus and combinations of buttons. I wonder if it would not be possible to au= tomatize some commands with a midi (foot or hand) controller=2C so that I c= an just push one button and the OT would execute a sequence of command with= out me having to open thousand menus. 3) Suppose that I have 4 tracks with 4 different samples=2C not too long=2C= but not just one note. Something like "du-bi-da-bi-di-bu-pi-ram-pam-ta-ta-= ta"=2C just to say.I want to be able to press the button corresponding to t= hat track=2C and have the track playing only till I hold down the button. B= ut I cannot. If I press one track button it will play till its end.I want t= o be able to play with the tracks very quickly=2C deciding how long must pl= ay each one. But even if I use the mute function=2C then when I unmute it w= ill not start from the beginning=2C and I want to start from the beginning!= Is it possible? Thanks! From: anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: OT arrived!!! Date: Mon=2C 3 Sep 2012 21:40:32 +0000 good news... hope you will enjoy it :-) From: simpliflying@gmail.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT arrived!!! Date: Mon=2C 3 Sep 2012 13:15:34 +0000 HEY Delightful brothers! It is here.Arrived. Still packed=2C I am at work in this moment so I cannot= open it but tonight is the night with my new baby=2C and love will flow!No= w Anders=2C you are not alone anymore.I mean that I will ask you lot of thi= ngs=2C ahahah!:) = --_9ec780c7-8633-4631-943c-ed42ce96580c_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Anders!

I have three questions for you! :)

1) do = you know if there are trusty=2C reliable video =3Btutorial =3Babout= the OT=2C starting from ZERO (for who just opened the package)=2C and with= the new OS?
In Synthopia I saw a video which drove me CRAZY till= I realized "damn=2C wait=2C maybe it was made with an old OS". It was IMPO= SSIBLE to reproduce what he was doing... :) And it was indeed made with the= first OS!

2) I see that the quick live usability = could be a problem with all those =3Bmenus =3Band combinations of b= uttons. I wonder if it would not be possible to automatize some commands wi= th a midi (foot or hand) controller=2C so that I can just push one button a= nd the OT would execute a sequence of command without me having to open tho= usand menus.

3) Suppose that I have 4 tracks with 4 different samples=2C not too long=2C = but not just one note. Something like "du-bi-da-bi-di-bu-pi-ram-pam-ta-ta-t= a"=2C just to say.
I want to be able to press the button c= orresponding to that track=2C and have the track playing only till I hold d= own the button. But I cannot. If I press one track button it will play till= its end.
I want to be able t= o play with the tracks very quickly=2C deciding how long must play each one= . =3B
But even if = I use the mute function=2C then when I unmute it will not start from the be= ginning=2C and I want to start from the beginning!
Is it p= ossible?

Thanks!
From: anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.comTo: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: OT arrived!!!
D= ate: Mon=2C 3 Sep 2012 21:40:32 +0000

good news... hope you will enjoy it :-)

From: simpliflying@gmail.comTo: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: OT arrived!!!
Date= : Mon=2C 3 Sep 2012 13:15:34 +0000

HEY Delightful brothers!

It is here.
Arrived. = Still packed=2C I am at work in this moment so I cannot open it but tonight= is the night with my new baby=2C and love will flow!
Now Anders= =2C you are not alone anymore.
I mean that I will ask you lot of = things=2C ahahah!
:)

=
= --_9ec780c7-8633-4631-943c-ed42ce96580c_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 10:54:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F34B6183460; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:54:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Tristan Zand Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_69392A3E-8A98-4F5C-8FE8-0FBEC71DFEB3" Subject: Re: Octotrack... Still a mystery... Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:54:43 +0200 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: ,<0A316B4A-EDD6-4D76-8AB2-B56192E77A31@zzz.ch> Message-Id: <028AB5A2-3DA5-4E1E-818E-0F70112A44C2@zzz.ch> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118220 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:54:19 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_69392A3E-8A98-4F5C-8FE8-0FBEC71DFEB3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Actually only for iOS now.. (because of the extensive coreMIDI and = coreAudio libraries: iPhone, iPod touch, or iPad with iOS5 or greater). I needed a pocketable looper, with that hardware feel, and as I never = really found one to fit my needs (the Electrix Repeater got the = closest), and so after many years I decided to develop one (it's = actually audiophile and coder St=E9phane Tavera who does the 'engine' = part...). But it's no OT, yet! ;) z http://zzz.ch http://loopr.net On 10 sept. 2012, at 12:31, Sergio G wrote: > Nice, but, only for Mac? >=20 > From: zzz@zzz.ch > Subject: Re: Octotrack... Still a mystery... > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:08:03 +0200 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Following the OT discussion, very interesting, thought I'm not a big = fan of that machine, I'm open to changing my mind. > I definitely am part of those who like the 'hardware' fell of looping = instruments. That's what we're trying to develop in our small software = app Loopr (http://loopr.net). > I like to play with something that really feedbacks well, with fast = and solid response rather than complex, obscure, menu-oriented, = computer-specialist-like apps.. > If some of you want to try, ask me for a promo code for the iOS app. I = still have 5 for this version if some of you want to try the thing. It's = only a v1, so the options are still quite limited, but as I use it as my = main tool, it's definitely going towards something chunkier with the = updates. > And looking forwards to more of that OT stuff!!!! > Cheers, > :) > z > http://zzz.ch > http://loopr.net >=20 > On 10 sept. 2012, at 06:32, Jack C wrote: >=20 > I must say, the "feel" of what your using is important if you ain't = programming. That's one thing that kinda sucks about using PC's or = Mac's. Yes, they are powerful and limitless, but nothing compares to the = feel of hardware. >=20 > On Sep 9, 2012, at 11:19 PM, Mark wrote > My music is amde by walking into my stdio and starting to play the = guitar... I find and tweak patches as I go along, I loop bits, process = bits and loop some more... then The kid comes in and asks me to play = PlayStation with him, and I turn it all off... Or... I turn up at the = cafe with my gear, my drummer turns up and we play... I dont have time = for "programming" But want beats and drum-machine... --Apple-Mail=_69392A3E-8A98-4F5C-8FE8-0FBEC71DFEB3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Actually only for iOS now.. (because of the = extensive coreMIDI and coreAudio libraries: iPhone, iPod touch, or iPad = with iOS5 or greater).
I needed a pocketable looper, with that = hardware feel, and as I never really found one to fit my needs (the = Electrix Repeater got the closest), and so after many years I decided to = develop one (it's actually audiophile and coder St=E9phane Tavera who = does the 'engine' part...).
But it's no OT, = yet!
;)
z

On 10 sept. 2012, at 12:31, Sergio G wrote:

Nice, but, only for Mac?

From: zzz@zzz.ch
Subject: Re: Octotrack... = Still a mystery...
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:08:03 +0200
To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com

Following the OT discussion, very interesting, = thought I'm not a big fan of that machine, I'm open to changing my = mind.
I definitely am part of those who like the 'hardware' fell of = looping instruments. That's what we're trying to develop in our small = software app Loopr (http://loopr.net).
I like to play with = something that really feedbacks well, with fast and solid response = rather than complex, obscure, menu-oriented, computer-specialist-like = apps..
If some of you want to try, ask me for a promo code for = the iOS app. I still have 5 for this version if some of you want to try = the thing. It's only a v1, so the options are still quite limited, but = as I use it as my main tool, it's definitely going towards something = chunkier with the updates.
And looking forwards to more of = that OT = stuff!!!!
Cheers,
:)
z

On 10 = sept. 2012, at 06:32, Jack C wrote:

I must say, the "feel" of what = your using is important if you ain't programming. That's one thing that = kinda sucks about using PC's or Mac's. Yes, they are powerful and = limitless, but nothing compares to the feel of hardware.

On =
Sep 9, 2012, at 11:19 PM, Mark <mark@markfrancombe.com> =
wrote
My music is amde by walking into my stdio and starting to = play the guitar... I find and tweak patches as I go along, I loop bits, = process bits and loop some more... then The kid comes in and asks me to = play PlayStation with him, and I turn it all off... Or... I turn up at = the cafe with my gear, my drummer turns up and we play... I dont have = time for "programming" But want beats and = drum-machine...

= --Apple-Mail=_69392A3E-8A98-4F5C-8FE8-0FBEC71DFEB3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 11:17:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0388218345D; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:17:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=ZtD7LueO6B6U0u8p+V5kiHOCaO0BdV8N/5S0VNdJedQ=; b=lYMWmrOebmG+pf7Hn9HNlLDKTBF9dUvI8/5xyLiXiRBmocG5+HguR+2j1bpS0yqA3m S27ZEIOydDEMhhArQpXK5hCKbt+4BhBSWfOyo+flznduAl1H6fQ5+o0NdHjp5PJlcoNa 3uQCDI7WTpqk+xsmOH5LXB3RzuKkGewkjOD6BlwHKf/nl8ffjlzAgHwA9AcmjwpegvRd E5l02dz6qahvqjltd1pVs9yCdTFUbN9+bm/1G0sX0N4JOrTWbYbnNG3c3CC+7ww6DkWl cwhOnh8jlFXjhqrApe0lw5eGPqNHpRZEub9fkaAzfRA1I45NglKR0n63teVyJijmkWN5 eNxw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:17:30 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: EA8hytp9Fm9ob6cfE94jMviSGwQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: @Anders, for the OT (I make it public so that anybody can learn more about the OT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b66f1cdaaa70e04c9571b40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118221 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:17:51 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b66f1cdaaa70e04c9571b40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'll just pipe in here Sergio, I went thru all these... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fICr_n5NgnI&list=UUL0xWyrKvKkZkvXesqHLcow&feature=plcp ...at the weekend, and it was probably usefull IF I HAD an OT sat there in front of me, which I dont! Im very much interested in joining you as one of the OT owners here, but have to sell stuff first and even then need to see if its really what I need. I want it PARTLY for the looping, but I do have 3 other loopers already. Im not looking for a replacement, but very interested in the triggering and morphin of params... IN COMBINATION with drum-machine style pre-prep stuff. If I can program some midi for external gear, even better... but its alot about HOW I can control this, and can I cut n paste between projects or spin things in, in synch, on the fly WITHOUT pre-prep. I THINK so, using the audio pool, with good foldering of samples it LOOKS like one can do everything without stopping the machine. (The main issue I have with Electribe actually.. that one cant record audio to a sample without stopping the drum-machine) Love to hear how you get on... we expect a daily report here, with samples !!! ;-) Mark On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Sergio G wrote: > Hello Anders! > > I have three questions for you! :) > > 1) do you know if there are trusty, reliable video tutorial about the OT, > starting from ZERO (for who just opened the package), and with the new OS? > In Synthopia I saw a video which drove me CRAZY till I realized "damn, > wait, maybe it was made with an old OS". It was IMPOSSIBLE to reproduce > what he was doing... :) And it was indeed made with the first OS! > > 2) I see that the quick live usability could be a problem with all > those menus and combinations of buttons. I wonder if it would not be > possible to automatize some commands with a midi (foot or hand) controller, > so that I can just push one button and the OT would execute a sequence of > command without me having to open thousand menus. > > 3) Suppose that I have 4 tracks with 4 different samples, not too long, > but not just one note. Something like > "du-bi-da-bi-di-bu-pi-ram-pam-ta-ta-ta", just to say. > I want to be able to press the button corresponding to that track, and > have the track playing only till I hold down the button. But I cannot. If I > press one track button it will play till its end. > I want to be able to play with the tracks very quickly, deciding how long > must play each one. > But even if I use the mute function, then when I unmute it will not start > from the beginning, and I want to start from the beginning! > Is it possible? > > Thanks! > ------------------------------ > From: anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: RE: OT arrived!!! > Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 21:40:32 +0000 > > good news... hope you will enjoy it :-) > > ------------------------------ > From: simpliflying@gmail.com > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: OT arrived!!! > Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 13:15:34 +0000 > > HEY Delightful brothers! > > It is here. > Arrived. Still packed, I am at work in this moment so I cannot open it but > tonight is the night with my new baby, and love will flow! > Now Anders, you are not alone anymore. > I mean that I will ask you lot of things, ahahah! > :) > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b66f1cdaaa70e04c9571b40 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'll just pipe in here Sergio, I went thru all these...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfICr_n5NgnI&= amp;list=3DUUL0xWyrKvKkZkvXesqHLcow&feature=3Dplcp

...at the weekend, and it was probably usefull IF I HAD an OT sat there= in front of me, which I dont!

Im very much interested in joining yo= u as one of the OT owners here, but have to sell stuff first and even then = need to see if its really what I need. I want it PARTLY for the looping, bu= t I do have 3 other loopers already. Im not looking for a replacement, but = very interested in the triggering and morphin of params... IN COMBINATION w= ith drum-machine style pre-prep stuff. If I can program some midi for exter= nal gear, even better... but its alot about HOW I can control this, and can= I cut n paste between projects or spin things in, in synch, on the fly WIT= HOUT pre-prep. I THINK so, using the audio pool, with good foldering of sam= ples it LOOKS like one can do everything without stopping the machine. (The= main issue I have with Electribe actually.. that one cant record audio to = a sample without stopping the drum-machine)

Love to hear how you get on... we expect a daily report here, with samp= les !!!

;-)

Mark

On Mon, Se= p 10, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Sergio G <simpliflying@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Anders!

I have three questions for you! :)

1) do = you know if there are trusty, reliable video=A0tutorial=A0about the OT, sta= rting from ZERO (for who just opened the package), and with the new OS?
In Synthopia I saw a video which drove me CRAZY till I realized "= damn, wait, maybe it was made with an old OS". It was IMPOSSIBLE to re= produce what he was doing... :) And it was indeed made with the first OS!

2) I see that the quick live usability could be a probl= em with all those=A0menus=A0and combinations of buttons. I wonder if it wou= ld not be possible to automatize some commands with a midi (foot or hand) c= ontroller, so that I can just push one button and the OT would execute a se= quence of command without me having to open thousand menus.

3) Suppose that I have 4= tracks with 4 different samples, not too long, but not just one note. Some= thing like "du-bi-da-bi-di-bu-pi-ram-pam-ta-ta-ta", just to say.<= /span>
I want to be able to press the button corresponding to that track, and= have the track playing only till I hold down the button. But I cannot. If = I press one track button it will play till its end.
I want to be able to play with the tracks very quickly,= deciding how long must play each one.=A0
But even if I use the mute function, th= en when I unmute it will not start from the beginning, and I want to start = from the beginning!
Is it possible?

Thanks!
From: anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com
To: = lo= opers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: OT arrived!!!
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 21:40:32 +0000

good news... hope you will enjoy it :-)

From: simpliflying@gmai= l.com
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: OT arrived!!!
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 13:15:34 +0000

HEY Delightful brothers!

It is here.
Arrived. = Still packed, I am at work in this moment so I cannot open it but tonight i= s the night with my new baby, and love will flow!
Now Anders, you= are not alone anymore.
I mean that I will ask you lot of things, ahahah!
:)

=



--
Mark Francom= be
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
<= /font>
--047d7b66f1cdaaa70e04c9571b40-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 13:15:18 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 38AAD18345B; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:15:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 801387549/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.183.141/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.183.141 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoMDAMPmTVBV0reN/2dsb2JhbAANOLlBcgQChDEBAQEDAThABgsLIRYPCQMCAQIBRRwBiAanRJM/iy2CfYMfA5spjTiBYg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,398,1344207600"; d="scan'208";a="801387549" Message-ID: <504DE7ED.7050907@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:15:25 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: @Anders, for the OT (I make it public so that anybody can learn more about the OT) References: , In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118222 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:15:18 +0000 (UTC) Sergio G wrote: > 1) do you know if there are trusty, reliable video tutorial about the > OT, OT = octatrack??? don't forget that 1) OT in the title will filtered out by people who don't want 'off topic' 2) people will search the mail archive for 'octatrack' andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 13:55:14 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4F3718345C; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:55:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_1236bf82-7109-43c6-8e47-1b2e276df187_" X-Originating-IP: [217.92.117.212] From: Sergio G Sender: To: Subject: @Anders, about the Octatrack (I make it public so that everybody can learn more about it) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:55:13 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Sep 2012 13:55:13.0567 (UTC) FILETIME=[E681BAF0:01CD8F5B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118223 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:55:14 +0000 (UTC) --_1236bf82-7109-43c6-8e47-1b2e276df187_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Andy=2C very well thought=2C you are right :)So here it goes again. S= ame message=2C better title=2C waiting for suggestions from the Delight's O= T Master :D Andy wrote: OT =3D octatrack??? don't forget that 1) OT in the title will filtered out by people who don't want 'off topic' 2) people will search the mail archive for 'octatrack' andy From: simpliflying@gmail.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: @Anders=2C for the OT (I make it public so that anybody can learn = more about the OT) Date: Mon=2C 10 Sep 2012 10:48:55 +0000 Hello Anders! I have three questions for you! :) 1) do you know if there are trusty=2C reliable video tutorial about the OT= =2C starting from ZERO (for who just opened the package)=2C and with the ne= w OS?In Synthopia I saw a video which drove me CRAZY till I realized "damn= =2C wait=2C maybe it was made with an old OS". It was IMPOSSIBLE to reprodu= ce what he was doing... :) And it was indeed made with the first OS! 2) I see that the quick live usability could be a problem with all those me= nus and combinations of buttons. I wonder if it would not be possible to au= tomatize some commands with a midi (foot or hand) controller=2C so that I c= an just push one button and the OT would execute a sequence of command with= out me having to open thousand menus. 3) Suppose that I have 4 tracks with 4 different samples=2C not too long=2C= but not just one note. Something like "du-bi-da-bi-di-bu-pi-ram-pam-ta-ta-= ta"=2C just to say.I want to be able to press the button corresponding to t= hat track=2C and have the track playing only till I hold down the button. B= ut I cannot. If I press one track button it will play till its end.I want t= o be able to play with the tracks very quickly=2C deciding how long must pl= ay each one. But even if I use the mute function=2C then when I unmute it w= ill not start from the beginning=2C and I want to start from the beginning!= Is it possible? Thanks! = --_1236bf82-7109-43c6-8e47-1b2e276df187_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 
<=
font face=3D"Tahoma">Hello Andy=2C very well thought=2C you are right :)
So here it goes again. Same message=2C bette=
r title=2C waiting for suggestions from the Delight's OT Master :D

Andy wrote:

OT =3D octatrack???

don't forget t=
hat

1) OT in the title will filtered out by people who don't want 'o=
ff topic'

2) people will search the mail archive for 'octatrack'
=

andy

From: simpliflying@gmail.com
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delig=
ht.com
Subject: @Anders=2C for the OT (I make it public so that anybody =
can learn more about the OT)
Date: Mon=2C 10 Sep 2012 10:48:55 +0000
=






Hello Anders!

I have three questions for you! :)

1) do =
you know if there are trusty=2C reliable video =3Btutorial =3Babout=
 the OT=2C starting from ZERO (for who just opened the package)=2C and with=
 the new OS?
In Synthopia I saw a video which drove me CRAZY till=
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SSIBLE to reproduce what he was doing... :) And it was indeed made with the=
 first OS!

2) I see that the quick live usability =
could be a problem with all those =3Bmenus =3Band combinations of b=
uttons. I wonder if it would not be possible to automatize some commands wi=
th a midi (foot or hand) controller=2C so that I can just push one button a=
nd the OT would execute a sequence of command without me having to open tho=
usand menus.

3) Sup=
pose that I have 4 tracks with 4 different samples=2C not too long=2C but n=
ot just one note. Something like "du-bi-da-bi-di-bu-pi-ram-pam-ta-ta-ta"=2C=
 just to say.
I want to be able to press the button corres=
ponding to that track=2C and have the track playing only till I hold down t=
he button. But I cannot. If I press one track button it will play till its =
end.
I want to be able to play wit=
h the tracks very quickly=2C deciding how long must play each one. =3B<=
/span>
But even if I use the mute =
function=2C then when I unmute it will not start from the beginning=2C and =
I want to start from the beginning!
Is it possible?
<=
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Thanks!
<= /div> = --_1236bf82-7109-43c6-8e47-1b2e276df187_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 16:00:19 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 110D3183452; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:00:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=u+pi5o9E9VwwmCuBnQTCl9220jY2NG3NH9XPLkKJNBU=; b=BZjiNr+WBa5NKfzq3DYn6gQVElr0mTkl+XIdFiOT9a1AXatMl+EIHqVzV+KDsBZxip T2jGkdiw+i+bf0VSgL7QzZbAFCZfUQElEjY3hvUi5iOY+c/rpVCakw+K83+5QGAxoR7F XkECY3tXMJB3RI0Ak5ALoy4bLPwstlGRkc/vvfBLjAuzgJ4IFCc9OT73cji+/jSTsXsi ZTPWo/o41BvjYp1j8cOEnvq1LUnUqowqKz58WbEFmf55xPXSG3Iw4GW5Hkhlq9UFW8aV VuuLHQ/SeQrn0dIe2KQPz4OGSPq4PRhe0+n1itqSog4V8End9S695UnxQ48hP8049kaZ Gn4g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:00:16 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Repetition From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <4m2M9.A.ajF.S6gTQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118224 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:00:18 +0000 (UTC) Some thoughts on repetition for your consideration: "How then is repetition associated with boredom? The goddess of repetition shows a triple aspect: there is repetition itself, which is lively; there is r=E9p=E9tition, or rehearsal, which is only re-animated, a zombie or revenant; and there is slavery, which is dead. The differences among these three aspects have to do with telos, or final cause. " "Slavery lacks telos. One thing is enslaved to another when the second repeats the first without final cause; nothing is happening; they have no future, no exit: Sartre's hell, without possibility of transcendence. Boredom." "R=E9p=E9tition is repetition in the presence of a given global telos, a goal with respect to the thing repeated. There is already an idea or picture of the whole thing repeated, to which successive presentations are supposed ever more closely to approximate. The telos, however admirable, does not change or grow, and the thing repeated changes inessentially and perhaps only in small increments from presentation to presentation, yet the process of successive approximation imparts a certain wan glow of pseudo-life to the series and thus to its components, les revenants." "In contrast, what I would like here to call "repetition" is repetition within a larger thing whose telos is not given (as in r=E9p=E9tition), but is in the process of being formed. Such subglobal repetition is not r=E9p=E9tition because the point is not to perfect the thing repeated, by accomplishing its telos, but to point beyond the thing repeated to the thing being formed. This is lively because it escapes the dead hand of some prefigured order; like life, it is a process of continual transcendence toward who knows what end. The focus is always forward, un-self-ish, opening away from the current entity in the direction of something larger and unconfined." From: Rahn, John(1993) 'Repetition', Contemporary Music Review, 7: 2, 49 = =97 57 * * * While my interest in livelooping stemmed from my desire to create music in a live context that I couldn't create otherwise, I've lately become interested in the more 'philosophical' aspects of that choice. Anyone familiar with the myth of Sisyphus? He was condemned by the gods to roll a rock up a hill only to see it roll down once at the top (repeat ad infinitum... life-looping?). The threefold aspect of repetition that Rahn describes makes a sort of intuitive sense. However, it seems to me that the distinction between them might have a lot to do with perspective or state of mind (one man's slavery is another's repetition). For instance, Albert Camus envisioned Sisyphus as an absurd hero who happily got up the hill everyday to rebel against the absurdity of his existence. Quite a different point of view on what most take away from the myth (you mess with the gods and you'll be enslaved for eternity doing pointless shit). Just some thoughts for a Monday morning. How do you (do you?) address some of these considerations in your music? Sylvain From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 16:20:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D2DD183463; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:20:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; bh=0OqNb9O0k2V86ANZJuzis4dmIuGmKQe41u+JcIbFj6Q=; b=EQOCybkPxsSo/UglmdLiGfE1j0O3byaH6T84e62JJTG9a8UaD7zEHHi5q1KCAxNfO4 ZQbdG9eiIARCQgL5Z9DpCJCr4Yw2nRS7E5n3rjB+BAeQfAUOa0GIbM9iEBuy2aa4OH/7 LcNMGg32LHMU8mNz3jXoNVohjYeov/LDVev/dhNdPw5LD41UlvdF5mc1CIMbugfY/5Cc Od0egLus3nohHHRT++ZSiaB3v+DT9a5CpQoJU7aFX6umVowjCGQVpm/hx6nUu/93Gi/S Wxf8EN3VEMATOnjfvc3l0TC8Vjn+YjuvWocGeN7xJBoC3yj1v6iv0z6dD1h/41+X4aYM PtxQ== Message-Id: <6767ABCF-2243-403E-876C-4F19AF281DF6@gmail.com> From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--380347758 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Repetition Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:20:39 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118225 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:20:44 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--380347758 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sep 10, 2012, at 9:00 AM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > How then is repetition associated with boredom? John Cage was "interested" in boredom. Boredom is a pre-trance state of the shallow and limited intellectual aspects of mind, a reflex to circumstances and conditions, So boredom is the verge of potential for "other" aspects of experiencing. I view repetition in my music as functioning as a supportive drone with aleatoric possibilities rather than mere mechanical pattern reproduction. BobC http://soundcloud.com/rpcollier http://rpcollier.bandcamp.com/album/platz http://www.instructables.com/id/Instant-Thumb-Piano%3a-How-to-make-a-set-screw-lamel/ --Apple-Mail-3--380347758 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sep 10, 2012, = at 9:00 AM, Sylvain Poitras wrote:

How then is = repetition associated with = boredom?


John Cage was = "interested" in boredom.
Boredom is a pre-trance state of the = shallow and limited intellectual aspects of mind, a reflex to = circumstances and conditions, 
So boredom is the verge of = potential for "other" aspects of = experiencing.

I view repetition in my music as = functioning as a supportive drone with aleatoric possibilities rather = than mere mechanical pattern = reproduction.


BobC

<= /div>


= --Apple-Mail-3--380347758-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 17:08:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B92F718345D; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:08:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=v1XerFXYpgJj9kwp2mQ3ASnB4O1oK/AobpIEiUfzKac=; b=Q/e3npH0kJGkwqQjb55nahaR0JAbidQlKnV565DcxZ2h2D3osN8rIVAeNw+4wny7yr a3haIU+wGwb6Okr/u28cEuWVeUG5bgvleTMJ0/YlYbczgFTgrYI6uFygikQqbImgdh2H JYkCvmnRy+gmSKMfeccwSwL1l64I7U0G0/GLBIAwJj3Ye2nNqLO4Dls5fBK6klz78SIB +K2Mggdh6H9xGGakpsxKzwJaM2mmQS9QxreaoN36xzLi90pQAGnhOo4i72YGiTDODsBZ mtbS1ihMkPmWnc0DT4Sbi3W78zBThCUWc1LFdMqMSoY7mpuepN4ukrThYR0xgXmjgTKN LfTA== References: From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:08:26 +0200 Message-ID: <-8381857238922045788@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: Repetition To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118226 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:08:30 +0000 (UTC) Very interesting reading Sylvain, repetition has never been boring to me, and is possibly one of the things that grabs me with looping. I don't personally use boredom ( consciously) in my work, but enjoy greatly watching repetitious or indeed monotonous musics. I dont feel i have the courage often to do it, but admire greatly when artists stretch the viewer and can apply retraint to change to subtle change over long periods. Drone music or ambient noise or improv can sometimes be physically difficult to listen to, but often I find that I can really start to listen deeply and can be lost in my own thoughts, making time seem to speed up, in a way that a conventional but boring band playing 4 minute songs cannot. I do find however that, for me, this only works live. Living in the world of mp3 it's all too easy to skip instead of listening to the whole thing as it was intended. For that reason, I generally only listen to this music in my car, on cd. mark Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 10 Sep 2012, at 18:00, Sylvain Poitras wrot= e: > Some thoughts on repetition for your consideration: > > "How then is repetition associated with boredom? The goddess of > repetition shows a triple aspect: there is repetition itself, which is > lively; there is r=E9p=E9tition, or rehearsal, which is only re-animated, > a zombie or revenant; and there is slavery, which is dead. The > differences among these three aspects have to do with telos, or final > cause. " > > "Slavery lacks telos. One thing is enslaved to another when the second > repeats the first without final cause; nothing is happening; they have > no future, no exit: Sartre's hell, without possibility of > transcendence. Boredom." > > "R=E9p=E9tition is repetition in the presence of a given global telos, a > goal with respect to the thing repeated. There is already an idea or > picture of the whole thing repeated, to which successive presentations > are supposed ever more closely to approximate. The telos, however > admirable, does not change or grow, and the thing repeated changes > inessentially and perhaps only in small increments from presentation > to presentation, yet the process of successive approximation imparts a > certain wan glow of pseudo-life to the series and thus to its > components, les revenants." > > "In contrast, what I would like here to call "repetition" is > repetition within a larger thing whose telos is not given (as in > r=E9p=E9tition), but is in the process of being formed. Such subglobal > repetition is not r=E9p=E9tition because the point is not to perfect the > thing repeated, by accomplishing its telos, but to point beyond the > thing repeated to the thing being formed. This is lively because it > escapes the dead hand of some prefigured order; like life, it is a > process of continual transcendence toward who knows what end. The > focus is always forward, un-self-ish, opening away from the current > entity in the direction of something larger and unconfined." > > From: Rahn, John(1993) 'Repetition', Contemporary Music Review, 7: 2, 49 = =97 57 > > * * * > > While my interest in livelooping stemmed from my desire to create > music in a live context that I couldn't create otherwise, I've lately > become interested in the more 'philosophical' aspects of that choice. > Anyone familiar with the myth of Sisyphus? He was condemned by the > gods to roll a rock up a hill only to see it roll down once at the top > (repeat ad infinitum... life-looping?). > > The threefold aspect of repetition that Rahn describes makes a sort of > intuitive sense. However, it seems to me that the distinction between > them might have a lot to do with perspective or state of mind (one > man's slavery is another's repetition). For instance, Albert Camus > envisioned Sisyphus as an absurd hero who happily got up the hill > everyday to rebel against the absurdity of his existence. Quite a > different point of view on what most take away from the myth (you mess > with the gods and you'll be enslaved for eternity doing pointless > shit). > > Just some thoughts for a Monday morning. How do you (do you?) address > some of these considerations in your music? > > Sylvain > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 17:12:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B000A183453; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:12:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:13:58 -0400 From: Douglas Baldwin Subject: Re: Repetition To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <20973952E71247E69528FD41862C9B24@Bedroom> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=Windows-1252; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120910-0, 09/10/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118227 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:12:35 +0000 (UTC) Well written, and thoughtful. I am also of the belief that these levels of quality (repetition, rehearsal, and slavery) are indications of the level of attention that the listener brings to the repetition. Douglas Baldwin Alpha Coyote coyotelk@optonline.net www.TheCoyote.org www.facebook.com/people/Douglas-Baldwin "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid. -- Frank Zappa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sylvain Poitras" To: Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 12:00 PM Subject: Repetition Some thoughts on repetition for your consideration: "How then is repetition associated with boredom? The goddess of repetition shows a triple aspect: there is repetition itself, which is lively; there is répétition, or rehearsal, which is only re-animated, a zombie or revenant; and there is slavery, which is dead. The differences among these three aspects have to do with telos, or final cause. " "Slavery lacks telos. One thing is enslaved to another when the second repeats the first without final cause; nothing is happening; they have no future, no exit: Sartre's hell, without possibility of transcendence. Boredom." "Répétition is repetition in the presence of a given global telos, a goal with respect to the thing repeated. There is already an idea or picture of the whole thing repeated, to which successive presentations are supposed ever more closely to approximate. The telos, however admirable, does not change or grow, and the thing repeated changes inessentially and perhaps only in small increments from presentation to presentation, yet the process of successive approximation imparts a certain wan glow of pseudo-life to the series and thus to its components, les revenants." "In contrast, what I would like here to call "repetition" is repetition within a larger thing whose telos is not given (as in répétition), but is in the process of being formed. Such subglobal repetition is not répétition because the point is not to perfect the thing repeated, by accomplishing its telos, but to point beyond the thing repeated to the thing being formed. This is lively because it escapes the dead hand of some prefigured order; like life, it is a process of continual transcendence toward who knows what end. The focus is always forward, un-self-ish, opening away from the current entity in the direction of something larger and unconfined." From: Rahn, John(1993) 'Repetition', Contemporary Music Review, 7: 2, 49 — 57 * * * While my interest in livelooping stemmed from my desire to create music in a live context that I couldn't create otherwise, I've lately become interested in the more 'philosophical' aspects of that choice. Anyone familiar with the myth of Sisyphus? He was condemned by the gods to roll a rock up a hill only to see it roll down once at the top (repeat ad infinitum... life-looping?). The threefold aspect of repetition that Rahn describes makes a sort of intuitive sense. However, it seems to me that the distinction between them might have a lot to do with perspective or state of mind (one man's slavery is another's repetition). For instance, Albert Camus envisioned Sisyphus as an absurd hero who happily got up the hill everyday to rebel against the absurdity of his existence. Quite a different point of view on what most take away from the myth (you mess with the gods and you'll be enslaved for eternity doing pointless shit). Just some thoughts for a Monday morning. How do you (do you?) address some of these considerations in your music? Sylvain From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 17:28:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A213183461; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:28:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 804541766/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.183.141/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.183.141 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApIBABciTlBV0reN/2dsb2JhbAANOL5rAQEBAwE4QAYLCw0UFg8JAwIBAgFFHAGIBqdsk16OKoMfA5spNY0D X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,399,1344207600"; d="scan'208";a="804541766" Message-ID: <504E232E.6060400@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:28:14 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Repetition References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118228 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:28:35 +0000 (UTC) Sylvain Poitras wrote: > The threefold aspect of repetition that Rahn describes makes a sort of > intuitive sense. >From my own point of view what he says about rehearsal doesn't fit at all. When I'm rehearsing a piece I'm usually developing it as I go, and ideally reaching some kind of peak at the performance or recording. If a performer didn't do a lot of preparation I'd be pleasantly surprised if they managed to keep what they did fresh and interesting on successive performances. As to loops and boredom. If the loop is an obvious repetition it doesn't get boring if it slips into a supporting role, becoming inconspicuous. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 18:44:34 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 580D4183460; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:44:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:44:33 UTC X-Originating-IP: [205.167.120.203] X-EIP: [W/itm95eQi04qn5JyLceQ0UYAABYESv1dsZ/U0h0yN4=] X-Originating-Email: [apacheci5@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Subject: Re: @Anders, for the OT (I make it public so that anybody can learn more about the OT) References: From: kelly maxwell Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-1228B83C-BD78-478D-A736-B84892C8DD97" In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:39:23 -0600 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Sep 2012 18:39:32.0289 (UTC) FILETIME=[9E4C2310:01CD8F83] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118229 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:44:34 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1228B83C-BD78-478D-A736-B84892C8DD97 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have had an Ot for 6 months and only had about 4 hours to spend with it. I= accidentally erased all of the demo sounds in it and have had a of a rough= time loading my own sounds and using them. I watched the tutorials by octat= rack and have had little result. I am interested in learning with u........ K= elly Sent from my iPhone On Sep 10, 2012, at 5:17 AM, "mark francombe" wrote= : > I'll just pipe in here Sergio, I went thru all these... >=20 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfICr_n5NgnI&list=3DUUL0xWyrKvKkZkvXesqHLc= ow&feature=3Dplcp >=20 > ...at the weekend, and it was probably usefull IF I HAD an OT sat there in= front of me, which I dont! >=20 > Im very much interested in joining you as one of the OT owners here, but h= ave to sell stuff first and even then need to see if its really what I need.= I want it PARTLY for the looping, but I do have 3 other loopers already. Im= not looking for a replacement, but very interested in the triggering and mo= rphin of params... IN COMBINATION with drum-machine style pre-prep stuff. If= I can program some midi for external gear, even better... but its alot abou= t HOW I can control this, and can I cut n paste between projects or spin thi= ngs in, in synch, on the fly WITHOUT pre-prep. I THINK so, using the audio p= ool, with good foldering of samples it LOOKS like one can do everything with= out stopping the machine. (The main issue I have with Electribe actually.. t= hat one cant record audio to a sample without stopping the drum-machine) >=20 > Love to hear how you get on... we expect a daily report here, with samples= !!! >=20 > ;-) >=20 > Mark >=20 > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Sergio G wrote:= > Hello Anders! >=20 > I have three questions for you! :) >=20 > 1) do you know if there are trusty, reliable video tutorial about the OT, s= tarting from ZERO (for who just opened the package), and with the new OS? > In Synthopia I saw a video which drove me CRAZY till I realized "damn, wai= t, maybe it was made with an old OS". It was IMPOSSIBLE to reproduce what he= was doing... :) And it was indeed made with the first OS! >=20 > 2) I see that the quick live usability could be a problem with all those m= enus and combinations of buttons. I wonder if it would not be possible to au= tomatize some commands with a midi (foot or hand) controller, so that I can j= ust push one button and the OT would execute a sequence of command without m= e having to open thousand menus. >=20 > 3) Suppose that I have 4 tracks with 4 different samples, not too long, bu= t not just one note. Something like "du-bi-da-bi-di-bu-pi-ram-pam-ta-ta-ta",= just to say. > I want to be able to press the button corresponding to that track, and hav= e the track playing only till I hold down the button. But I cannot. If I pre= ss one track button it will play till its end. > I want to be able to play with the tracks very quickly, deciding how long m= ust play each one.=20 > But even if I use the mute function, then when I unmute it will not start f= rom the beginning, and I want to start from the beginning! > Is it possible? >=20 > Thanks! > From: anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: RE: OT arrived!!! > Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 21:40:32 +0000 >=20 > good news... hope you will enjoy it :-) >=20 > From: simpliflying@gmail.com > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: OT arrived!!! > Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 13:15:34 +0000 >=20 > HEY Delightful brothers! >=20 > It is here. > Arrived. Still packed, I am at work in this moment so I cannot open it but= tonight is the night with my new baby, and love will flow! > Now Anders, you are not alone anymore. > I mean that I will ask you lot of things, ahahah! > :) >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ >=20 --Apple-Mail-1228B83C-BD78-478D-A736-B84892C8DD97 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"
I have had an Ot for 6 months and only had about 4 hours to spend with it. I accidentally erased all of the demo sounds in it and have had a  of a rough time loading my own sounds and using them. I watched the tutorials by octatrack and have had little result. I am interested in learning with u........ Kelly

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 10, 2012, at 5:17 AM, "mark francombe" <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:

I'll just pipe in here Sergio, I went thru all these...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fICr_n5NgnI&list=UUL0xWyrKvKkZkvXesqHLcow&feature=plcp

...at the weekend, and it was probably usefull IF I HAD an OT sat there in front of me, which I dont!

Im very much interested in joining you as one of the OT owners here, but have to sell stuff first and even then need to see if its really what I need. I want it PARTLY for the looping, but I do have 3 other loopers already. Im not looking for a replacement, but very interested in the triggering and morphin of params... IN COMBINATION with drum-machine style pre-prep stuff. If I can program some midi for external gear, even better... but its alot about HOW I can control this, and can I cut n paste between projects or spin things in, in synch, on the fly WITHOUT pre-prep. I THINK so, using the audio pool, with good foldering of samples it LOOKS like one can do everything without stopping the machine. (The main issue I have with Electribe actually.. that one cant record audio to a sample without stopping the drum-machine)

Love to hear how you get on... we expect a daily report here, with samples !!!

;-)

Mark

On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Sergio G <simpliflying@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Anders!

I have three questions for you! :)

1) do you know if there are trusty, reliable video tutorial about the OT, starting from ZERO (for who just opened the package), and with the new OS?
In Synthopia I saw a video which drove me CRAZY till I realized "damn, wait, maybe it was made with an old OS". It was IMPOSSIBLE to reproduce what he was doing... :) And it was indeed made with the first OS!

2) I see that the quick live usability could be a problem with all those menus and combinations of buttons. I wonder if it would not be possible to automatize some commands with a midi (foot or hand) controller, so that I can just push one button and the OT would execute a sequence of command without me having to open thousand menus.

3) Suppose that I have 4 tracks with 4 different samples, not too long, but not just one note. Something like "du-bi-da-bi-di-bu-pi-ram-pam-ta-ta-ta", just to say.
I want to be able to press the button corresponding to that track, and have the track playing only till I hold down the button. But I cannot. If I press one track button it will play till its end.
I want to be able to play with the tracks very quickly, deciding how long must play each one. 
But even if I use the mute function, then when I unmute it will not start from the beginning, and I want to start from the beginning!
Is it possible?

Thanks!
From: anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: OT arrived!!!
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 21:40:32 +0000

good news... hope you will enjoy it :-)

From: simpliflying@gmail.com
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: OT arrived!!!
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 13:15:34 +0000

HEY Delightful brothers!

It is here.
Arrived. Still packed, I am at work in this moment so I cannot open it but tonight is the night with my new baby, and love will flow!
Now Anders, you are not alone anymore.
I mean that I will ask you lot of things, ahahah!
:)




--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/

--Apple-Mail-1228B83C-BD78-478D-A736-B84892C8DD97-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 20:06:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E783183465; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:06:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=3kMyNI3+OgoAs1orYnVu6UqC4KYWpNYanJ20NM41MpI=; b=qRs8+ZbpWTuZ1BfALNnahijAY+FS1o0+r6H3VUwekj/JIrbUjtiEeenAT6BqFXtNIG VaXrz6WOJGi8GbRSLrWfXx+z5LQPFScvOhntZK/qHRs7Jo4BJBpEvKa6WVpyVZo/dy4J /hAYk0Z8H8ElsjtWN9BlehZQjkkp2jg0htS9s4WGKDi4DM2mCLjdiHIvqMSrAEx6K58z qxI3WvN9xuvBgxJtnbbk83PW/3jZz1FlKCLIVd2SOegbNkiMaVcmDid2Be4BCejEhg4+ oyUUfIad+c+Ys2aPKYWrDq2BJWlOyacjkIHDUgZm5LhX0ac2zL4elNJVjxHCkaUkobI+ N/0g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 22:06:34 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: JYZOjyGeoibQEUqEB-osrYQNtY8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: @Anders, for the OT (I make it public so that anybody can learn more about the OT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b603e92cc0fb204c95e7ffa Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118230 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:06:56 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b603e92cc0fb204c95e7ffa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Wow that sounds harsh... theres no way to reload all the factory stuff? On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 8:39 PM, kelly maxwell wrote: > I have had an Ot for 6 months and only had about 4 hours to spend with it. > I accidentally erased all of the demo sounds in it and have had a of a > rough time loading my own sounds and using them. I watched the tutorials by > octatrack and have had little result. I am interested in learning with > u........ Kelly > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 10, 2012, at 5:17 AM, "mark francombe" > wrote: > > I'll just pipe in here Sergio, I went thru all these... > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fICr_n5NgnI&list=UUL0xWyrKvKkZkvXesqHLcow&feature=plcp > > ...at the weekend, and it was probably usefull IF I HAD an OT sat there in > front of me, which I dont! > > Im very much interested in joining you as one of the OT owners here, but > have to sell stuff first and even then need to see if its really what I > need. I want it PARTLY for the looping, but I do have 3 other loopers > already. Im not looking for a replacement, but very interested in the > triggering and morphin of params... IN COMBINATION with drum-machine style > pre-prep stuff. If I can program some midi for external gear, even > better... but its alot about HOW I can control this, and can I cut n paste > between projects or spin things in, in synch, on the fly WITHOUT pre-prep. > I THINK so, using the audio pool, with good foldering of samples it LOOKS > like one can do everything without stopping the machine. (The main issue I > have with Electribe actually.. that one cant record audio to a sample > without stopping the drum-machine) > > Love to hear how you get on... we expect a daily report here, with samples > !!! > > ;-) > > Mark > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Sergio G wrote: > >> Hello Anders! >> >> I have three questions for you! :) >> >> 1) do you know if there are trusty, reliable video tutorial about the OT, >> starting from ZERO (for who just opened the package), and with the new OS? >> In Synthopia I saw a video which drove me CRAZY till I realized "damn, >> wait, maybe it was made with an old OS". It was IMPOSSIBLE to reproduce >> what he was doing... :) And it was indeed made with the first OS! >> >> 2) I see that the quick live usability could be a problem with all >> those menus and combinations of buttons. I wonder if it would not be >> possible to automatize some commands with a midi (foot or hand) controller, >> so that I can just push one button and the OT would execute a sequence of >> command without me having to open thousand menus. >> >> 3) Suppose that I have 4 tracks with 4 different samples, not too long, >> but not just one note. Something like >> "du-bi-da-bi-di-bu-pi-ram-pam-ta-ta-ta", just to say. >> I want to be able to press the button corresponding to that track, and >> have the track playing only till I hold down the button. But I cannot. If I >> press one track button it will play till its end. >> I want to be able to play with the tracks very quickly, deciding how long >> must play each one. >> But even if I use the mute function, then when I unmute it will not start >> from the beginning, and I want to start from the beginning! >> Is it possible? >> >> Thanks! >> ------------------------------ >> From: anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com >> To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: RE: OT arrived!!! >> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 21:40:32 +0000 >> >> good news... hope you will enjoy it :-) >> >> ------------------------------ >> From: simpliflying@gmail.com >> To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: OT arrived!!! >> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 13:15:34 +0000 >> >> HEY Delightful brothers! >> >> It is here. >> Arrived. Still packed, I am at work in this moment so I cannot open it >> but tonight is the night with my new baby, and love will flow! >> Now Anders, you are not alone anymore. >> I mean that I will ask you lot of things, ahahah! >> :) >> >> > > > -- > *Mark Francombe* > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b603e92cc0fb204c95e7ffa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wow that sounds harsh... theres no way to reload all the factory stuff?
=
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 8:39 PM, kelly maxwe= ll <apacheci5@hotmail.com> wrote:
I have had an = Ot for 6 months and only had about 4 hours to spend with it. I accidentally= erased all of the demo sounds in it and have had a =A0of a rough time load= ing my own sounds and using them. I watched the tutorials by octatrack and = have had little result. I am interested in learning with u........ Kelly
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 10, 201= 2, at 5:17 AM, "mark francombe" <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
I'll just pipe in here Sergio= , I went thru all these...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfICr_n5NgnI&list=3DUUL0x= WyrKvKkZkvXesqHLcow&feature=3Dplcp

...at the weekend, and it was probably usefull IF I HAD an OT sat there= in front of me, which I dont!

Im very much interested in joining yo= u as one of the OT owners here, but have to sell stuff first and even then = need to see if its really what I need. I want it PARTLY for the looping, bu= t I do have 3 other loopers already. Im not looking for a replacement, but = very interested in the triggering and morphin of params... IN COMBINATION w= ith drum-machine style pre-prep stuff. If I can program some midi for exter= nal gear, even better... but its alot about HOW I can control this, and can= I cut n paste between projects or spin things in, in synch, on the fly WIT= HOUT pre-prep. I THINK so, using the audio pool, with good foldering of sam= ples it LOOKS like one can do everything without stopping the machine. (The= main issue I have with Electribe actually.. that one cant record audio to = a sample without stopping the drum-machine)

Love to hear how you get on... we expect a daily report here, with samp= les !!!

;-)

Mark

On Mon, Se= p 10, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Sergio G <simpliflying@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Anders!

I have three questions for you! :)

1) do = you know if there are trusty, reliable video=A0tutorial=A0about the OT, sta= rting from ZERO (for who just opened the package), and with the new OS?
In Synthopia I saw a video which drove me CRAZY till I realized "= damn, wait, maybe it was made with an old OS". It was IMPOSSIBLE to re= produce what he was doing... :) And it was indeed made with the first OS!

2) I see that the quick live usability could be a probl= em with all those=A0menus=A0and combinations of buttons. I wonder if it wou= ld not be possible to automatize some commands with a midi (foot or hand) c= ontroller, so that I can just push one button and the OT would execute a se= quence of command without me having to open thousand menus.

3) Suppose that I have 4= tracks with 4 different samples, not too long, but not just one note. Some= thing like "du-bi-da-bi-di-bu-pi-ram-pam-ta-ta-ta", just to say.<= /span>
I want to be able to press the button corresponding to that track, and= have the track playing only till I hold down the button. But I cannot. If = I press one track button it will play till its end.
I want to be able to play with the tracks very quickly,= deciding how long must play each one.=A0
But even if I use the mute function, th= en when I unmute it will not start from the beginning, and I want to start = from the beginning!
Is it possible?

Thanks!
From: anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com
To: = lo= opers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: OT arrived!!!
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 21:40:32 +0000

good news... hope you will enjoy it :-)

From: simpliflying@gmai= l.com
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: OT arrived!!!
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 13:15:34 +0000

HEY Delightful brothers!

It is here.
Arrived. = Still packed, I am at work in this moment so I cannot open it but tonight i= s the night with my new baby, and love will flow!
Now Anders, you= are not alone anymore.
I mean that I will ask you lot of things, ahahah!
:)

=



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www.markfrancombe.com
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http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
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--047d7b603e92cc0fb204c95e7ffa-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 20:15:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 52042183479; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:15:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <504E4A41.4040008@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:14:57 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: Repetition Repetition was Repetition References: <-8381857238922045788@unknownmsgid> In-Reply-To: <-8381857238922045788@unknownmsgid> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118231 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:15:05 +0000 (UTC) When the human brain is presented with too little information, it will start to project information; really, a form of hallucination. I've posted a famous psychology experiment that I was lucky enough to participate in a few times to this forum so I won't reiterate it, but the gist is that presented with a tape loop of the non-word 'COGITAE' 25 scientists and artists each generated a list of 25-35 words that they had 'heard' the speaker say in 20 minutes of constant repetition. This of course, is a psycho-acoustic phenomenon, but I think it is one of the most interesting aspects of why repetitive music is fascinating to a lot of human beings. We are intrinsically pattern oriented due to the nature of our neurophysiology. Because of this, I always demonstrate by playing one minute of 'shredding' drumming to students, utilizing every single chop and conceivable time signature and tempi in a randomly spit out order............no repetition if I can help it................after 30 seconds, it's almost completely unlistenable, despite the years of technique and creativity I've put into trying to achieve some mastery of my instrument. I then play the kick on 1 and 3, the snare on 2 and 4 and the hi hats on 8ths notes for another minute. The response is palpable. It is always my first demonstration when trying to teach a young drummer how to 'groove'. Steve Gadd played this exact exercise for five straight minutes when he did his first ever solo drum clinic on the west coast (and every drummer worth their salt was in attendance, many having flown up from LA just to see this rare thing). He got a standing ovation when he finished. He didn't play a single fill or vary his tempo, one perceptible iota. It's one of the most beautiful things I've ever witnessed musically. Every drummer I know who saw it raced home to play for hours to try and get that 'feel'. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 20:37:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C811A18347B; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:37:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 861507.55792.bm@omp1069.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1347309462; bh=T4g7T9F7ft0szDFOFPCpV4USnbX0uhVEoZgOkEffJ2o=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=R5PUMOA6ZUWxTql7kSSvTgPmB23zOkRyfuxtWFFkeMHOCr3XdtGCO8lSnKrsv5D8s5LYh1HwoLb2e+G3mUTxW9J6ht9zSLqwoVZmBhZUKXpuCf48VfDui4H5RiSGGIdsRxZ2ds5MLAom6gDvBrYmcS3D5+vJoG9c3sRdr+WRfTQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5kEXaQ86b+zRRIrEjIHUhDgGxQg4OF37z/5HO14I5jCHbksDpbAlPBKgab9GB3pIIA5kLbshKBA50WIO4Bpa2RV9YAuanEVH2dyLpkxzQL5Y2C11cb3jdEk2esWv9mmoc1KCfoRsukCZe0bugkfKgiB3S2oCWxh7ffJ9btMpjEA=; X-YMail-OSG: 34cXH18VM1n2uA_qMPnBnmLRoFYVQBbgwGrmHA9TAJ.Mnug ls8aMrp_mQoaMEY2LWE4KJnylMxjiIXvPTGODPiYx7ZYvjCcrjldW_e6niJq TFppWRq8Lce2U7TjVvvbbQaixtkaiN3ccG7_i.4l6EgnVpFN07c_9jS_X9hA kub0aTpNahkegw3igrmnjAdwDWUrf.ahjwGc6jKdt3FqL4egVTvIrDhYVwNr _jPP5QetznANseXrzyc2OS6d4jX02FTlbPhwEKDazYEups6fkSmtL0xL7jWN daq8APpmWflVJV9b_DEU545kacRh9NGADKuSvHmVyAq46DiB2fOcnYxDE3tw epYc8dsV_f58qjFzGr8nDOMqSJ5gO7MlO1rD8.Jhj8n7rbaaXRRLeM0p_7MQ 3HlmvQihQAfbBR1yBD4CXygN8Q.ltiEUS9lQpu7BBHwiHtNJdLFa1dUh3lhR E87u_3jZBSFVJBvskc17CRZIjWr2gXCGtXPllCnW0naq7_v9zkQE35fuPcGz d1wni1lsgASV7nZGU8vZwybrFR9bhboIhvlZqVIznWZ_W47KWEHNaIDM9xl7 EwXYqBAvyqt_De9sBPBn9uMs3_1Hc1LY3YlA715eOnTvbhTZM3Ab6vQ12hGV DEEKYBMA_AqXnpE42l4AN X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 References: <20973952E71247E69528FD41862C9B24@Bedroom> Message-ID: <1347309462.71874.YahooMailNeo@web32501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:37:42 -0700 (PDT) From: bill bigrig Reply-To: bill bigrig Subject: Re: Repetition To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20973952E71247E69528FD41862C9B24@Bedroom> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="1662753009-1225914353-1347309462=:71874" Resent-Message-ID: <7xDXkB.A.V8.X-kTQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118232 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:37:43 +0000 (UTC) --1662753009-1225914353-1347309462=:71874 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is quite a deep, analytical explanation. Henceforth it should be filed= in the Dept. of Redundancy Dept. Rig=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Douglas Baldwin =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =0ASent: Monda= y, September 10, 2012 10:13 AM=0ASubject: Re: Repetition=0A=0AWell written,= and thoughtful.=0AI am also of the belief that these levels of quality (re= petition, rehearsal, and slavery) are indications of the level of attention= that the listener brings to the repetition.=0A=0A=0ADouglas Baldwin=0AAlph= a Coyote=0Acoyotelk@optonline.net=0Awww.TheCoyote.org=0Awww.facebook.com/pe= ople/Douglas-Baldwin=0A=0A"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bun= ch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid.=0A-= - Frank Zappa=0A=0A----- Original Message ----- From: "Sylvain Poitras" =0ATo: =0ASen= t: Monday, September 10, 2012 12:00 PM=0ASubject: Repetition=0A=0A=0ASome t= houghts on repetition for your consideration:=0A=0A"How then is repetition = associated with boredom? The goddess of=0Arepetition shows a triple aspect:= there is repetition itself, which is=0Alively; there is r=C3=A9p=C3=A9titi= on, or rehearsal, which is only re-animated,=0Aa zombie or revenant; and th= ere is slavery, which is dead. The=0Adifferences among these three aspects = have to do with telos, or final=0Acause. "=0A=0A"Slavery lacks telos. One t= hing is enslaved to another when the second=0Arepeats the first without fin= al cause; nothing is happening; they have=0Ano future, no exit: Sartre's he= ll, without possibility of=0Atranscendence. Boredom."=0A=0A"R=C3=A9p=C3=A9t= ition is repetition in the presence of a given global telos, a=0Agoal with = respect to the thing repeated. There is already an idea or=0Apicture of the= whole thing repeated, to which successive presentations=0Aare supposed eve= r more closely to approximate. The telos, however=0Aadmirable, does not cha= nge or grow, and the thing repeated changes=0Ainessentially and perhaps onl= y in small increments from presentation=0Ato presentation, yet the process = of successive approximation imparts a=0Acertain wan glow of pseudo-life to = the series and thus to its=0Acomponents, les revenants."=0A=0A"In contrast,= what I would like here to call "repetition" is=0Arepetition within a large= r thing whose telos is not given (as in=0Ar=C3=A9p=C3=A9tition), but is in = the process of being formed. Such subglobal=0Arepetition is not r=C3=A9p=C3= =A9tition because the point is not to perfect the=0Athing repeated, by acco= mplishing its telos, but to point beyond the=0Athing repeated to the thing = being formed. This is lively because it=0Aescapes the dead hand of some pre= figured order; like life, it is a=0Aprocess of continual transcendence towa= rd who knows what end. The=0Afocus is always forward, un-self-ish, opening = away from the current=0Aentity in the direction of something larger and unc= onfined."=0A=0AFrom: Rahn, John(1993) 'Repetition', Contemporary Music Revi= ew, 7: 2, 49 =E2=80=94 57=0A=0A* * *=0A=0AWhile my interest in livelooping = stemmed from my desire to create=0Amusic in a live context that I couldn't = create otherwise, I've lately=0Abecome interested in the more 'philosophica= l' aspects of that choice.=0AAnyone familiar with the myth of Sisyphus?=C2= =A0 He was condemned by the=0Agods to roll a rock up a hill only to see it = roll down once at the top=0A(repeat ad infinitum...=C2=A0 life-looping?).= =0A=0AThe threefold aspect of repetition that Rahn describes makes a sort o= f=0Aintuitive sense.=C2=A0 However, it seems to me that the distinction bet= ween=0Athem might have a lot to do with perspective or state of mind (one= =0Aman's slavery is another's repetition).=C2=A0 For instance, Albert Camus= =0Aenvisioned Sisyphus as an absurd hero who happily got up the hill=0Aever= yday to rebel against the absurdity of his existence.=C2=A0 Quite a=0Adiffe= rent point of view on what most take away from the myth (you mess=0Awith th= e gods and you'll be enslaved for eternity doing pointless=0Ashit).=0A=0AJu= st some thoughts for a Monday morning.=C2=A0 How do you (do you?) address= =0Asome of these considerations in your music?=0A=0ASylvain --1662753009-1225914353-1347309462=:71874 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is quite a deep, analytical explanation. Henceforth it should be filed= in the Dept. of Redundancy Dept.=0D
Rig
= From: Douglas Baldwin <coyo= telk@optonline.net>
To:= Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: Repetition
=

Well written, and thoughtful.
I am also of the belief that t= hese levels of quality (repetition, rehearsal, and slavery) are indications= of the level of attention that the listener brings to the repetition.
<= BR>
Douglas Baldwin
Alpha Coyote
coyotelk@optonline.net
www.TheC= oyote.org
www.facebook.com/people/Douglas-Baldwin

"Without music = to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or date= s by which bills must be paid.
-- Frank Zappa

----- Original Mess= age ----- From: "Sylvain Poitras" <sylvain.trombone@gma= il.com>
To: <Loopers-Deligh= t@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 12:00 PM<= BR>Subject: Repetition


Some thoughts on repetition for your cons= ideration:

"How then is repetition associated with boredom? The godd= ess of
repetition shows a triple aspect: there is repetition itself, whi= ch is
lively; there is r=C3=A9p=C3=A9tition, or rehearsal, which is only r= e-animated,
a zombie or revenant; and there is slavery, which is dead. T= he
differences among these three aspects have to do with telos, or final=
cause. "

"Slavery lacks telos. One thing is enslaved to another = when the second
repeats the first without final cause; nothing is happen= ing; they have
no future, no exit: Sartre's hell, without possibility of=
transcendence. Boredom."

"R=C3=A9p=C3=A9tition is repetition in = the presence of a given global telos, a
goal with respect to the thing r= epeated. There is already an idea or
picture of the whole thing repeated= , to which successive presentations
are supposed ever more closely to ap= proximate. The telos, however
admirable, does not change or grow, and th= e thing repeated changes
inessentially and perhaps only in small increme= nts from presentation
to presentation, yet the process of successive approximation imparts a
certain wan glow of pseudo-life to the series a= nd thus to its
components, les revenants."

"In contrast, what I w= ould like here to call "repetition" is
repetition within a larger thing = whose telos is not given (as in
r=C3=A9p=C3=A9tition), but is in the pro= cess of being formed. Such subglobal
repetition is not r=C3=A9p=C3=A9tit= ion because the point is not to perfect the
thing repeated, by accomplis= hing its telos, but to point beyond the
thing repeated to the thing bein= g formed. This is lively because it
escapes the dead hand of some prefig= ured order; like life, it is a
process of continual transcendence toward= who knows what end. The
focus is always forward, un-self-ish, opening a= way from the current
entity in the direction of something larger and unc= onfined."

From: Rahn, John(1993) 'Repetition', Contemporary Music Re= view, 7: 2, 49 =E2=80=94 57

* * *

While my interest in livelo= oping stemmed from my desire to create
music in a live context that I couldn't create= otherwise, I've lately
become interested in the more 'philosophical' as= pects of that choice.
Anyone familiar with the myth of Sisyphus?  H= e was condemned by the
gods to roll a rock up a hill only to see it roll= down once at the top
(repeat ad infinitum...  life-looping?).
<= BR>The threefold aspect of repetition that Rahn describes makes a sort ofintuitive sense.  However, it seems to me that the distinction betwe= en
them might have a lot to do with perspective or state of mind (oneman's slavery is another's repetition).  For instance, Albert Camusenvisioned Sisyphus as an absurd hero who happily got up the hill
ever= yday to rebel against the absurdity of his existence.  Quite a
diff= erent point of view on what most take away from the myth (you mess
with = the gods and you'll be enslaved for eternity doing pointless
shit).

Just some thoughts for a Monday morning.  = How do you (do you?) address
some of these considerations in your music?=

Sylvain



--1662753009-1225914353-1347309462=:71874-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 20:42:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 257AD183486; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:42:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 800272.92874.bm@omp1063.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1347309774; bh=kzU6P9r/UXNbE8kB6QTI7NIgbDKpzZBeLozqQ3Pd0oM=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bcUGm9jQhLnWmbXrxoSMweZw62tdfZqYYE+Gxm2B/y6221XScTvjT2QlDF5UA18rCBlxSofCIAwduNDNGB0mqlGQdvz0RB+LVSVeotv6UWgISWSn3gR8MReBlNhBvXmddsl5BsXAakTBYbKj4pbsuMAVrfXxjYvxTen0mVkSdIc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=eK5LJCz0vkq6IAeqNLGreNOwqIfbrQ2Ja3vCE+CbG0KQrn/kmtl4rfLDbKWcuuv8OvMi++rQiK0KGnEeatMlY+JdZlhRn1S6NZ4XyqffE8G8L+GakOhFInyFrAR+49l80bktq7gBpySL3tsaPYJQ5ZfL2Uq0gDN1LioiQ1cVmOo=; X-YMail-OSG: bw9ZsBMVM1nXgi_lwdlQgG1qUHd4LjjgJm1e9O1EMLbcBRW hdpEok.Ekkgw_YARdtCrA9M0o0sdll0h3dWKhmdvkfuTYVw48OI5y0WZQD2b qnAlkDMSfyOamVGgxRZP0FcNPILBlb8kbyMIusXLGndGNgyZJET_bOTOgKi9 X5lRe.4nAp8MFcEd2.t.eN8pdIovsiWfRJQPafH3ZbYImdzQ1E01eGQCcMGz _CiEJilRTVR1iRLD26448NlED_TO5WGqdCY8UX.pQBo4Q1EAVek3Nw2.NimX mHDwVxqbLWa0F3hibYHo_v7dIYBXx87CqJIAx144HTz3Yiv_ifLl9xINt63o kuUCAgMkLKBzCfJeENTJmwLuSjNbC5nyfkOJOXsXYb6Xc_gVg.BiU4XTpXpJ IpwYYI4KoJ3qglbcETENeRtBf8dOoP12F1kCv7PdG6fMkS6QWIyUN0jJ3T4v ussNuigjVSEp9fKB_ACaNvXGT0N8oh0P5oyCogDAi7AYOnTXHq64IDshrYv1 fW3ybKGGMx2oXhhlNq1o10_HZYGNj2cPwZ1G_SgN3RELZCjxCaw.98xdvfVJ 6IO7aDncBp1z3iQ3FdEd898qJSkX8owpuH0dHkH816IOJBnNoDEZJm9g1a3u tX17uzpiV_5EvsbJRHIxiNUbyKBIW_JHw.ECl6nksIc4z8hN.pXTXB6D4DVO DbbSAHZh25OgLTz5X7EsD3kDuY8dyuY2oUKfT69ozZFLr5JIunJj2GFad_Pk gL.oH8vneXHYc_gWGZrFMh1315CPCBRuBMzi5kM3kbg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 References: <6767ABCF-2243-403E-876C-4F19AF281DF6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1347309774.74592.YahooMailNeo@web32503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:42:54 -0700 (PDT) From: bill bigrig Reply-To: bill bigrig Subject: Re: Repetition To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <6767ABCF-2243-403E-876C-4F19AF281DF6@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-495408613-476940736-1347309774=:74592" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118233 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:42:56 +0000 (UTC) ---495408613-476940736-1347309774=:74592 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Some of the earliest muzik I made with friends sounded quite good. I'd give= it to non-musicians who did not like the fact that the musical bed did not= change. This was in the mid 80s before techno, etc. A German friend said i= t best, "but Mauk zis mussic ist alvays de same!! Alvays de same. It zounds= gut, but alvays de same. Vould be mooch bettau if zom chanching, but no!= =20 You get the drift I'm sure. Like many, we were just too soon. Rig=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: RP Collier =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =0ASent: Monday, Se= ptember 10, 2012 9:20 AM=0ASubject: Re: Repetition=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Sep 10,= 2012, at 9:00 AM, Sylvain Poitras wrote:=0A=0AHow then is repetition assoc= iated with boredom?=0A=0A=0AJohn Cage was "interested" in boredom.=0ABoredo= m is a pre-trance state of the shallow and limited intellectual aspects of = mind, a reflex to circumstances and conditions,=A0=0ASo boredom is the verg= e of potential for "other" aspects of experiencing.=0A=0AI view repetition = in my music as functioning as a supportive drone with aleatoric possibiliti= es rather than mere mechanical pattern reproduction.=0A=0A=0ABobC=0A=0A=0A= =0Ahttp://soundcloud.com/rpcollier=0Ahttp://rpcollier.bandcamp.com/album/pl= atz=0Ahttp://www.instructables.com/id/Instant-Thumb-Piano%3a-How-to-make-a-= set-screw-lamel/ ---495408613-476940736-1347309774=:74592 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Some of the earliest muzik I made with friends sounded quite good. I'd = give it to non-musicians who did not like the fact that the musical bed did= not change. This was in the mid 80s before techno, etc. A German friend sa= id it best, "but Mauk zis mussic ist alvays de same!! Alvays de same. = It zounds gut, but alvays de same. Vould be mooch bettau if zom chanching, = but no!=20=0D
You get the drift I'm sure. Like many, we were just = too soon.=0D
Rig
From: RP Collier <skeptikalist@gmail.com>
<= span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-de= light.com
Sent: Monda= y, September 10, 2012 9:20 AM
Subject:= Re: Repetition

<= br>
On Sep 10, 2012, at 9:00 AM, Sylvain Poitras wrote:

<= span class=3D"yiv1793225685Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse:separ= ate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant= :normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;orphans= :2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spa= cing:0px;font-size:medium;">How then is repetition associated with boredom?=


John Cage was "inter= ested" in boredom.
Boredom is a pre-trance state of the shal= low and limited intellectual aspects of mind, a reflex to circumstances and= conditions, 
So boredom is the verge of potential for "other" aspects of experiencing.

I view= repetition in my music as functioning as a supportive drone with aleatoric= possibilities rather than mere mechanical pattern reproduction.
=

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---495408613-476940736-1347309774=:74592-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 20:49:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 99FC6183486; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:49:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_58cf1a77-ed06-418a-8bd6-57d0faaccc6d_" X-Originating-IP: [92.228.255.239] From: Sergio G Sender: To: Subject: RE: @Anders, about the Octatrack (I make it public so that everybody can learn more about it) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:49:18 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Sep 2012 20:49:18.0577 (UTC) FILETIME=[BF496610:01CD8F95] Resent-Message-ID: <0fTfAC.A.YNB.QJlTQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118234 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:49:20 +0000 (UTC) --_58cf1a77-ed06-418a-8bd6-57d0faaccc6d_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable @ Kelly: Gerne=2C with pleasure :)I want to learn soon because I really wis= h to do something "real" with it (more than just experiments) as soon as po= ssible :DWe can share the info and videos which we are finding interesting.= I also ask in Elektron Forums generally. As there is not ONE truth=2C I lik= e to hear different experiences. @ Mark:Super=2C those videos seem to be very interesting! But I think the g= uy should drink less coffee=2C he is too fast! :D But just with the first v= ideo with the LFO you can see a very nice use of the OT...For electribe you= mean the ESX right? I have the EMX and still had no time to learn it. But = nice to tweak the sounds. I wanted to sell it but I am keeping it just for = these knobs :)I am not yet the right person to tell you if the OT is what y= ou need=2C sorry. Still too new :)It's going slow man=2C too few time and t= oo many friends. I have to say no all the time and stay home and close in m= y Room (the cons of living in a wonderful shared flat=2C you are never alon= e. Which is also the pro=2C considering the wonderful people I live with=2C= but this is again also a cons=2C because it is so difficult to say no to t= hem=2C ahaha!).I have sent a link time ago with the first experiments I did= with the Boomerang.I can't wait to see what how a different gear will cana= lize my creativity. :) So I can see what's going on insede of me in this mo= ment=2C what comes from the machines (and will change now) and what is mine= /me (and will repeat now).:)We'll see. Subject: Re: @Anders=2C for the OT (I make it public so that anybody can le= arn more about the OT) From: apacheci5@hotmail.com Date: Mon=2C 10 Sep 2012 12:39:23 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com I have had an Ot for 6 months and only had about 4 hours to spend with it. = I accidentally erased all of the demo sounds in it and have had a of a rou= gh time loading my own sounds and using them. I watched the tutorials by oc= tatrack and have had little result. I am interested in learning with u.....= ... Kelly Sent from my iPhone On Sep 10=2C 2012=2C at 5:17 AM=2C "mark francombe" wrote: I'll just pipe in here Sergio=2C I went thru all these... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfICr_n5NgnI&list=3DUUL0xWyrKvKkZkvXesqHLco= w&feature=3Dplcp ...at the weekend=2C and it was probably usefull IF I HAD an OT sat there i= n front of me=2C which I dont! Im very much interested in joining you as one of the OT owners here=2C but = have to sell stuff first and even then need to see if its really what I nee= d. I want it PARTLY for the looping=2C but I do have 3 other loopers alread= y. Im not looking for a replacement=2C but very interested in the triggerin= g and morphin of params... IN COMBINATION with drum-machine style pre-prep = stuff. If I can program some midi for external gear=2C even better... but i= ts alot about HOW I can control this=2C and can I cut n paste between proje= cts or spin things in=2C in synch=2C on the fly WITHOUT pre-prep. I THINK s= o=2C using the audio pool=2C with good foldering of samples it LOOKS like o= ne can do everything without stopping the machine. (The main issue I have w= ith Electribe actually.. that one cant record audio to a sample without sto= pping the drum-machine) Love to hear how you get on... we expect a daily report here=2C with sample= s !!! =3B-) Mark On Mon=2C Sep 10=2C 2012 at 12:48 PM=2C Sergio G w= rote: Hello Anders! I have three questions for you! :) 1) do you know if there are trusty=2C reliable video tutorial about the OT= =2C starting from ZERO (for who just opened the package)=2C and with the ne= w OS? In Synthopia I saw a video which drove me CRAZY till I realized "damn=2C wa= it=2C maybe it was made with an old OS". It was IMPOSSIBLE to reproduce wha= t he was doing... :) And it was indeed made with the first OS! 2) I see that the quick live usability could be a problem with all those me= nus and combinations of buttons. I wonder if it would not be possible to au= tomatize some commands with a midi (foot or hand) controller=2C so that I c= an just push one button and the OT would execute a sequence of command with= out me having to open thousand menus. 3) Suppose that I have 4 tracks with 4 different samples=2C not too long=2C= but not just one note. Something like "du-bi-da-bi-di-bu-pi-ram-pam-ta-ta-= ta"=2C just to say. I want to be able to press the button corresponding to that track=2C and ha= ve the track playing only till I hold down the button. But I cannot. If I p= ress one track button it will play till its end.I want to be able to play w= ith the tracks very quickly=2C deciding how long must play each one.=20 But even if I use the mute function=2C then when I unmute it will not start= from the beginning=2C and I want to start from the beginning!Is it possibl= e? Thanks! From: anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: OT arrived!!! Date: Mon=2C 3 Sep 2012 21:40:32 +0000 good news... hope you will enjoy it :-) From: simpliflying@gmail.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT arrived!!! Date: Mon=2C 3 Sep 2012 13:15:34 +0000 HEY Delightful brothers! It is here.Arrived. Still packed=2C I am at work in this moment so I cannot= open it but tonight is the night with my new baby=2C and love will flow!No= w Anders=2C you are not alone anymore. I mean that I will ask you lot of things=2C ahahah!:) =20 --=20 Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.comwww.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ = --_58cf1a77-ed06-418a-8bd6-57d0faaccc6d_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
@ Kelly: =3B
Gerne=2C with pleasure :)
I want to learn soon bec= ause I really wish to do something "real" with it (more than just experimen= ts) as soon as possible :D
We can share the info and videos which= we are finding interesting.
I also ask in Elektron Forums genera= lly. As there is not ONE truth=2C I like to hear different experiences.

@ Mark:
Super=2C those videos seem to be ve= ry interesting! But I think the guy should drink less coffee=2C he is too f= ast! :D =3B
But just with the first video with the LFO you ca= n see a very nice use of the OT...
For electribe you mean the ESX= right? I have the EMX and still had no time to learn it. But nice to tweak= the sounds. I wanted to sell it but I am keeping it just for these knobs := )
I am not yet the right person to tell you if the OT is what you= need=2C sorry. Still too new :)
It's going slow man=2C too few t= ime and too many friends. I have to say no all the time and stay home and c= lose in my Room (the cons of living in a wonderful shared flat=2C you are n= ever alone. Which is also the pro=2C considering the wonderful people I liv= e with=2C but this is again also a cons=2C because it is so difficult to sa= y no to them=2C ahaha!).
I have sent a link time ago with the fir= st experiments I did with the Boomerang.
I can't wait to see what= how a different gear will canalize my creativity. :) So I can see what's g= oing on insede of me in this moment=2C what comes from the machines (and wi= ll change now) and what is mine/me (and will repeat now).
:)
We'll see.


Subject: Re: @Anders=2C fo= r the OT (I make it public so that anybody can learn more about the OT)
= From: apacheci5@hotmail.com
Date: Mon=2C 10 Sep 2012 12:39:23 -0600
T= o: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

I have had an Ot for 6 m= onths and only had about 4 hours to spend with it. I accidentally erased al= l of the demo sounds in it and have had a  =3Bof a rough time loading m= y own sounds and using them. I watched the tutorials by octatrack and have = had little result. I am interested in learning with u........ Kelly

= Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 10=2C 2012=2C at 5:17 AM=2C "mark = francombe" <=3Bmark@markfrancom= be.com>=3B wrote:

I'll just = pipe in here Sergio=2C I went thru all these...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfIC= r_n5NgnI&=3Blist=3DUUL0xWyrKvKkZkvXesqHLcow&=3Bfeature=3Dplcp

...at the weekend=2C and it was probably usefull IF I HAD an OT sat the= re in front of me=2C which I dont!

Im very much interested in joinin= g you as one of the OT owners here=2C but have to sell stuff first and even= then need to see if its really what I need. I want it PARTLY for the loopi= ng=2C but I do have 3 other loopers already. Im not looking for a replaceme= nt=2C but very interested in the triggering and morphin of params... IN COM= BINATION with drum-machine style pre-prep stuff. If I can program some midi= for external gear=2C even better... but its alot about HOW I can control t= his=2C and can I cut n paste between projects or spin things in=2C in synch= =2C on the fly WITHOUT pre-prep. I THINK so=2C using the audio pool=2C with= good foldering of samples it LOOKS like one can do everything without stop= ping the machine. (The main issue I have with Electribe actually.. that one= cant record audio to a sample without stopping the drum-machine)

Love to hear how you get on... we expect a daily report here=2C with sa= mples !!!

=3B-)

Mark

On = Mon=2C Sep 10=2C 2012 at 12:48 PM=2C Sergio G <=3Bsimpliflying@gmail.com>=3B wrote:
Hello Anders!

I have three questions for you! :)

1) do = you know if there are trusty=2C reliable video =3Btutorial =3Babout= the OT=2C starting from ZERO (for who just opened the package)=2C and with= the new OS?
In Synthopia I saw a video which drove me CRAZY till I realized "damn= =2C wait=2C maybe it was made with an old OS". It was IMPOSSIBLE to reprodu= ce what he was doing... :) And it was indeed made with the first OS!

2) I see that the quick live usability could be a probl= em with all those =3Bmenus =3Band combinations of buttons. I wonder= if it would not be possible to automatize some commands with a midi (foot = or hand) controller=2C so that I can just push one button and the OT would = execute a sequence of command without me having to open thousand menus.

3) Suppose that I have 4= tracks with 4 different samples=2C not too long=2C but not just one note. = Something like "du-bi-da-bi-di-bu-pi-ram-pam-ta-ta-ta"=2C just to say.
I want to be able to press the button corresponding to that track=2C a= nd have the track playing only till I hold down the button. But I cannot. I= f I press one track button it will play till its end.
I want to be able to play with the tracks very quickly= =2C deciding how long must play each one. =3B
But even if I use the mute function=2C = then when I unmute it will not start from the beginning=2C and I want to st= art from the beginning!
Is it possible?

Thanks!
From: anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: OT arrived!!!
Date: Mon=2C 3 Sep 2012 21:40:32 +0000
good news... hope you will enjoy it :-)

From: simpliflying@gmail.com
To: <= a href=3D"mailto:loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com">loopers-delight@loope= rs-delight.com
Subject: OT arrived!!!
Date: Mon=2C 3 Sep 2012 13:15:34 +0000

HEY Delightful brothers!

It is here.
Arrived. = Still packed=2C I am at work in this moment so I cannot open it but tonight= is the night with my new baby=2C and love will flow!
Now Anders= =2C you are not alone anymore.
I mean that I will ask you lot of things=2C ahahah!
:)
=

=



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www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
= --_58cf1a77-ed06-418a-8bd6-57d0faaccc6d_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 20:55:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DAA3E18347F; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:55:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-09-10_04:2012-09-06,2012-09-10,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1209100225 Subject: Re: Repetition Repetition was Repetition From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: <504E4A41.4040008@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:55:47 -0700 Message-id: <6663FB10-5BF4-4A3F-AFEC-7FB308B90E45@mac.com> References: <-8381857238922045788@unknownmsgid> <504E4A41.4040008@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118235 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:55:51 +0000 (UTC) Rick writes: > no repetition if I can help it................after 30 seconds, it's > almost completely unlistenable, despite the years of technique and creativity I've put > into trying to achieve some mastery of my instrument. Isn't there a musical genre dedicated to this approach? "Black Metal" ;) Daniel On Sep 10, 2012, at 1:14 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > When the human brain is presented with too little information, it will start to project > information; really, a form of hallucination. > > I've posted a famous psychology experiment that I was lucky enough to participate in > a few times to this forum so I won't reiterate it, but the gist is that > presented with a tape loop of the non-word 'COGITAE' 25 scientists and artists > each generated a list of 25-35 words that they had 'heard' the speaker say > in 20 minutes of constant repetition. > > This of course, is a psycho-acoustic phenomenon, but I think it is one of the most > interesting aspects of why repetitive music is fascinating to a lot of human beings. > > We are intrinsically pattern oriented due to the nature of our neurophysiology. > > Because of this, I always demonstrate by playing one minute of 'shredding' drumming to students, > utilizing every single chop and conceivable time signature and tempi in a randomly > spit out order............no repetition if I can help it................after 30 seconds, it's > almost completely unlistenable, despite the years of technique and creativity I've put > into trying to achieve some mastery of my instrument. > > I then play the kick on 1 and 3, the snare on 2 and 4 and the hi hats on 8ths notes > for another minute. The response is palpable. > > It is always my first demonstration when trying to teach a young drummer how to 'groove'. > > Steve Gadd played this exact exercise for five straight minutes when he did his > first ever solo drum clinic on the west coast (and every drummer worth their salt was in attendance, > many having flown up from LA just to see this rare thing). > > He got a standing ovation when he finished. He didn't play a single fill or vary his tempo, one perceptible > iota. > > It's one of the most beautiful things I've ever witnessed musically. Every drummer I know who saw it raced home > to play for hours to try and get that 'feel'. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 20:59:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE0A3183489; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:59:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_154e3203-2839-4153-a6c0-24f5a39de4f3_" X-Originating-IP: [81.233.147.253] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: @Anders, for the OT (I make it public so that anybody can learn more about the OT) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:59:37 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Sep 2012 20:59:37.0126 (UTC) FILETIME=[2FF87C60:01CD8F97] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118236 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:59:42 +0000 (UTC) --_154e3203-2839-4153-a6c0-24f5a39de4f3_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable See answers below=2C or attempts to anser =3B) From: simpliflying@gmail.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: @Anders=2C for the OT (I make it public so that anybody can learn = more about the OT) Date: Mon=2C 10 Sep 2012 10:48:55 +0000 Hello Anders! I have three questions for you! :) 1) do you know if there are trusty=2C reliable video tutorial about the OT= =2C starting from ZERO (for who just opened the package)=2C and with the ne= w OS?In Synthopia I saw a video which drove me CRAZY till I realized "damn= =2C wait=2C maybe it was made with an old OS". It was IMPOSSIBLE to reprodu= ce what he was doing... :) And it was indeed made with the first OS!ANDERS>= Probably the tutorials from Elektron are the most reliable=2C. even if the= y are rather basic.. there are some other good ones but start with elektron= s.. 2) I see that the quick live usability could be a problem with all those me= nus and combinations of buttons. I wonder if it would not be possible to au= tomatize some commands with a midi (foot or hand) controller=2C so that I c= an just push one button and the OT would execute a sequence of command with= out me having to open thousand menus.ANDERS > Yes that should be possible..= i haven't felt the need myself..=20 3) Suppose that I have 4 tracks with 4 different samples=2C not too long=2C= but not just one note. Something like "du-bi-da-bi-di-bu-pi-ram-pam-ta-ta-= ta"=2C just to say.I want to be able to press the button corresponding to t= hat track=2C and have the track playing only till I hold down the button. B= ut I cannot. If I press one track button it will play till its end.I want t= o be able to play with the tracks very quickly=2C deciding how long must pl= ay each one. But even if I use the mute function=2C then when I unmute it w= ill not start from the beginning=2C and I want to start from the beginning!= Is it possible?Anders> Probably not exactly as you want it.. What I think y= ou want is to be able to trigger a sample and have it sound just as long as= you hold a button.. you will come close by setting the octa in "live" mode= (press stop and play and the red led by the "rec" buttom will flash). This= way you can play chromatically (the default sample for a track will be pla= yed chromatically with the trig buttons or a keyboard.. in "live recording = mode" the things you do will be recorded to the sequencer.. so IF you don't= want to record but just trigger make sure to have the led by "rec" OFF (if= its flashing push "rec" until it's off.. then puch FUNCTION+UP ARROW and c= hose "SLOTS" this way you can play the slots assigned to a track by pressin= g trig buttons=2C the first trig button will play first slot=2C second the = second on so on.. this way you can "stutter" a sample by repeately pressing= its trig button.. NOW all triggered samples will play to end or until you = trigger an other slot.. so if you have a sample is SILENCE (a short is perh= aps best) you could trigger "du-bi-da-bi-di-bu-pi-ram-pam-ta-ta-ta" (say s= lot 1) and make it stop by pressing the "silent" slot.. so that way you can= silence your sample when ever.. NOW there MIGHT be a simpler way...OOPS th= ere is a simpler way just push any trig button that do not have a slot assi= gned (do not have a green led.. just tried=2C works=2C COOL) >Sorry for confusing answer... need to walk the dog.. Thanks! You are welcome From: anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: OT arrived!!! Date: Mon=2C 3 Sep 2012 21:40:32 +0000 good news... hope you will enjoy it :-) From: simpliflying@gmail.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT arrived!!! Date: Mon=2C 3 Sep 2012 13:15:34 +0000 HEY Delightful brothers! It is here.Arrived. Still packed=2C I am at work in this moment so I cannot= open it but tonight is the night with my new baby=2C and love will flow!No= w Anders=2C you are not alone anymore.I mean that I will ask you lot of thi= ngs=2C ahahah!:) = --_154e3203-2839-4153-a6c0-24f5a39de4f3_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

See answers below=2C or attempts to anser =3B)
From: simpliflying@gmail.com<= br>To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: @Anders=2C for the O= T (I make it public so that anybody can learn more about the OT)
Date: M= on=2C 10 Sep 2012 10:48:55 +0000

Hello Anders!

I have three questions for you! :)

1) do = you know if there are trusty=2C reliable video =3Btutorial =3Babout= the OT=2C starting from ZERO (for who just opened the package)=2C and with= the new OS?
In Synthopia I saw a video which drove me CRAZY till= I realized "damn=2C wait=2C maybe it was made with an old OS". It was IMPO= SSIBLE to reproduce what he was doing... :) And it was indeed made with the= first OS!
ANDERS>=3B Probably the =3Btutorials =3Bfrom= Elektron are the most reliable=2C. even if they are rather basic.. there a= re some other good ones but start with elektrons..

2) I see that the quick live usability could be a problem with all those&n= bsp=3Bmenus =3Band combinations of buttons. I wonder if it would not be= possible to automatize some commands with a midi (foot or hand) controller= =2C so that I can just push one button and the OT would execute a sequence = of command without me having to open thousand menus.
ANDERS >= =3B Yes that should be possible.. i haven't felt the need myself.. =3B<= /div>

3) Suppose that I h= ave 4 tracks with 4 different samples=2C not too long=2C but not just one n= ote. Something like "du-bi-da-bi-di-bu-pi-ram-pam-ta-ta-ta"=2C just to say.=
I want to be able to press the button corresponding to th= at track=2C and have the track playing only till I hold down the button. Bu= t I cannot. If I press one track button it will play till its end.
I want to be able to play with the tracks = very quickly=2C deciding how long must play each one. =3B
<= div>But even if I use the mute function=2C t= hen when I unmute it will not start from the beginning=2C and I want to sta= rt from the beginning!
Is it possible?
Anders>= =3B Probably not exactly as you want it.. What I think you want is to be ab= le to trigger a sample and have it sound just as long as you hold a button.= . you will come close by setting the octa in "live" mode (press stop and pl= ay and the red led by the "rec" buttom will flash). This way you can play c= hromatically (the default sample for a track will be played =3Bchromati= cally =3Bwith the trig buttons or a keyboard.. in "live recording mode"= the things you do will be recorded to the sequencer.. so IF you don't want= to record but just trigger make sure to have the led by "rec" OFF (if its = flashing push "rec" until it's off.. then puch FUNCTION+UP ARROW and chose = "SLOTS" this way you can play the slots assigned to a track by =3Bpress= ing =3Btrig =3Bbuttons=2C the first trig button will play first slo= t=2C second the second on so on.. this way you can "stutter" a sample by re= peately pressing its trig button.. NOW all triggered samples will play to e= nd or until you trigger an other slot.. so if you have a sample is SILENCE = (a short is perhaps best) you could trigger  =3B"du-bi-da-bi-di-bu-pi-ram-pam-ta-ta-ta" (say slot 1) and make = it stop by pressing the "silent" slot.. so that way you can silence your sa= mple when ever.. NOW there MIGHT be a simpler way...OOPS there is a simpler= way just push any trig button that do not have a slot assigned (do not hav= e a green led.. just tried=2C works=2C COOL)

>=3BSorry for confusing answer... need to walk the dog..

Thanks!

You are welcome
F= rom: anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.c= om
Subject: RE: OT arrived!!!
Date: Mon=2C 3 Sep 2012 21:40:32 +0000<= br>
good news... hope you will enjoy it :-)

From: simpliflying@gmail.comTo: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: OT arrived!!!
Date= : Mon=2C 3 Sep 2012 13:15:34 +0000

HEY Delightful brothers!

It is here.
Arrived. = Still packed=2C I am at work in this moment so I cannot open it but tonight= is the night with my new baby=2C and love will flow!
Now Anders= =2C you are not alone anymore.
I mean that I will ask you lot of = things=2C ahahah!
:)

=
= --_154e3203-2839-4153-a6c0-24f5a39de4f3_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 21:09:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 59FA8183481; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 21:09:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_41d13f05-f2d7-439d-81a7-72aef3aedc86_" X-Originating-IP: [92.228.255.239] From: Sergio G Sender: To: Subject: RE: @Anders, about the Octatrack (I make it public so that everybody can learn more about it) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 21:09:40 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: , ,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Sep 2012 21:09:43.0609 (UTC) FILETIME=[99767290:01CD8F98] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118237 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 21:09:45 +0000 (UTC) --_41d13f05-f2d7-439d-81a7-72aef3aedc86_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nah=2C but the factory stuff is just for the demo. I also received my used = one with a formatted card so nothing inside.I watched the tutorial in Elekt= ron site=2C I have created a set=2C a project=2C loaded samples (I have dow= nloaded from Elektron site the three free demo samples pack from loopmaster= s=2C and copied the folders into the AUDIO folder of the Project in the OT = card -OT was connected via usb).Then I used those samples to do trials whil= e watching other tutorials. Watch the tutorials in Elektron site :) From: mark@markfrancombe.com Date: Mon=2C 10 Sep 2012 22:06:34 +0200 Subject: Re: @Anders=2C for the OT (I make it public so that anybody can le= arn more about the OT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Wow that sounds harsh... theres no way to reload all the factory stuff? On Mon=2C Sep 10=2C 2012 at 8:39 PM=2C kelly maxwell wrote: I have had an Ot for 6 months and only had about 4 hours to spend with it. = I accidentally erased all of the demo sounds in it and have had a of a rou= gh time loading my own sounds and using them. I watched the tutorials by oc= tatrack and have had little result. I am interested in learning with u.....= ... Kelly Sent from my iPhone On Sep 10=2C 2012=2C at 5:17 AM=2C "mark francombe" wrote: I'll just pipe in here Sergio=2C I went thru all these... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfICr_n5NgnI&list=3DUUL0xWyrKvKkZkvXesqHLco= w&feature=3Dplcp ...at the weekend=2C and it was probably usefull IF I HAD an OT sat there i= n front of me=2C which I dont! Im very much interested in joining you as one of the OT owners here=2C but = have to sell stuff first and even then need to see if its really what I nee= d. I want it PARTLY for the looping=2C but I do have 3 other loopers alread= y. Im not looking for a replacement=2C but very interested in the triggerin= g and morphin of params... IN COMBINATION with drum-machine style pre-prep = stuff. If I can program some midi for external gear=2C even better... but i= ts alot about HOW I can control this=2C and can I cut n paste between proje= cts or spin things in=2C in synch=2C on the fly WITHOUT pre-prep. I THINK s= o=2C using the audio pool=2C with good foldering of samples it LOOKS like o= ne can do everything without stopping the machine. (The main issue I have w= ith Electribe actually.. that one cant record audio to a sample without sto= pping the drum-machine) Love to hear how you get on... we expect a daily report here=2C with sample= s !!! =3B-) Mark On Mon=2C Sep 10=2C 2012 at 12:48 PM=2C Sergio G w= rote: Hello Anders! I have three questions for you! :) 1) do you know if there are trusty=2C reliable video tutorial about the OT= =2C starting from ZERO (for who just opened the package)=2C and with the ne= w OS? In Synthopia I saw a video which drove me CRAZY till I realized "damn=2C wa= it=2C maybe it was made with an old OS". It was IMPOSSIBLE to reproduce wha= t he was doing... :) And it was indeed made with the first OS! 2) I see that the quick live usability could be a problem with all those me= nus and combinations of buttons. I wonder if it would not be possible to au= tomatize some commands with a midi (foot or hand) controller=2C so that I c= an just push one button and the OT would execute a sequence of command with= out me having to open thousand menus. 3) Suppose that I have 4 tracks with 4 different samples=2C not too long=2C= but not just one note. Something like "du-bi-da-bi-di-bu-pi-ram-pam-ta-ta-= ta"=2C just to say. I want to be able to press the button corresponding to that track=2C and ha= ve the track playing only till I hold down the button. But I cannot. If I p= ress one track button it will play till its end.I want to be able to play w= ith the tracks very quickly=2C deciding how long must play each one.=20 But even if I use the mute function=2C then when I unmute it will not start= from the beginning=2C and I want to start from the beginning!Is it possibl= e? Thanks! From: anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: OT arrived!!! Date: Mon=2C 3 Sep 2012 21:40:32 +0000 good news... hope you will enjoy it :-) From: simpliflying@gmail.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT arrived!!! Date: Mon=2C 3 Sep 2012 13:15:34 +0000 HEY Delightful brothers! It is here.Arrived. Still packed=2C I am at work in this moment so I cannot= open it but tonight is the night with my new baby=2C and love will flow!No= w Anders=2C you are not alone anymore. I mean that I will ask you lot of things=2C ahahah!:) =20 --=20 Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.comwww.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --=20 Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.comwww.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ = --_41d13f05-f2d7-439d-81a7-72aef3aedc86_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nah=2C but the factory stuff is just for the demo. I also received my used = one with a formatted card so nothing inside.
I watched the tutorial in = Elektron site=2C I have created a set=2C a project=2C loaded samples (I hav= e downloaded from Elektron site the three free demo samples pack from loopm= asters=2C and copied the folders into the AUDIO folder of the Project in th= e OT card -OT was connected via usb).
Then =3BI used those sa= mples to do trials while watching other tutorials.

Watch the tutorials in Elektron site :)

From: mark@markfrancombe.com=
Date: Mon=2C 10 Sep 2012 22:06:34 +0200
Subject: Re: @Anders=2C for = the OT (I make it public so that anybody can learn more about the OT)
To= : Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Wow that sounds harsh... there= s no way to reload all the factory stuff?

On Mon=2C Sep 10=2C 2012 at 8:39 PM=2C kelly maxwell = <=3Bapacheci5@hotmail.com>= =3B wrote:
I have had an Ot for 6 months and only had abou= t 4 hours to spend with it. I accidentally erased all of the demo sounds in= it and have had a  =3Bof a rough time loading my own sounds and using = them. I watched the tutorials by octatrack and have had little result. I am= interested in learning with u........ Kelly

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 10=2C 2= 012=2C at 5:17 AM=2C "mark francombe" <=3Bmark@markfrancombe.com>=3B wrote:

I'll just pipe in here Sergio=2C I went thru al= l these...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfICr_n5NgnI&=3Blist=3DUUL0xWyrKvKkZkv= XesqHLcow&=3Bfeature=3Dplcp

...at the weekend=2C and it was probably usefull IF I HAD an OT sat the= re in front of me=2C which I dont!

Im very much interested in joinin= g you as one of the OT owners here=2C but have to sell stuff first and even= then need to see if its really what I need. I want it PARTLY for the loopi= ng=2C but I do have 3 other loopers already. Im not looking for a replaceme= nt=2C but very interested in the triggering and morphin of params... IN COM= BINATION with drum-machine style pre-prep stuff. If I can program some midi= for external gear=2C even better... but its alot about HOW I can control t= his=2C and can I cut n paste between projects or spin things in=2C in synch= =2C on the fly WITHOUT pre-prep. I THINK so=2C using the audio pool=2C with= good foldering of samples it LOOKS like one can do everything without stop= ping the machine. (The main issue I have with Electribe actually.. that one= cant record audio to a sample without stopping the drum-machine)

Love to hear how you get on... we expect a daily report here=2C with sa= mples !!!

=3B-)

Mark

On = Mon=2C Sep 10=2C 2012 at 12:48 PM=2C Sergio G <=3Bsimpliflying@gmail.com>=3B wrote:
Hello Anders!

I have three questions for you! :)

1) do = you know if there are trusty=2C reliable video =3Btutorial =3Babout= the OT=2C starting from ZERO (for who just opened the package)=2C and with= the new OS?
In Synthopia I saw a video which drove me CRAZY till I realized "damn= =2C wait=2C maybe it was made with an old OS". It was IMPOSSIBLE to reprodu= ce what he was doing... :) And it was indeed made with the first OS!

2) I see that the quick live usability could be a probl= em with all those =3Bmenus =3Band combinations of buttons. I wonder= if it would not be possible to automatize some commands with a midi (foot = or hand) controller=2C so that I can just push one button and the OT would = execute a sequence of command without me having to open thousand menus.

3) Suppose that I have 4= tracks with 4 different samples=2C not too long=2C but not just one note. = Something like "du-bi-da-bi-di-bu-pi-ram-pam-ta-ta-ta"=2C just to say.
I want to be able to press the button corresponding to that track=2C a= nd have the track playing only till I hold down the button. But I cannot. I= f I press one track button it will play till its end.
I want to be able to play with the tracks very quickly= =2C deciding how long must play each one. =3B
But even if I use the mute function=2C = then when I unmute it will not start from the beginning=2C and I want to st= art from the beginning!
Is it possible?

Thanks!
From: anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: OT arrived!!!
Date: Mon=2C 3 Sep 2012 21:40:32 +0000
good news... hope you will enjoy it :-)

From: simpliflying@gmail.com
To: <= a href=3D"mailto:loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com">loopers-delight@loope= rs-delight.com
Subject: OT arrived!!!
Date: Mon=2C 3 Sep 2012 13:15:34 +0000

HEY Delightful brothers!

It is here.
Arrived. = Still packed=2C I am at work in this moment so I cannot open it but tonight= is the night with my new baby=2C and love will flow!
Now Anders= =2C you are not alone anymore.
I mean that I will ask you lot of things=2C ahahah!
:)
=

=



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www.markfrancombe.com
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http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/



--
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www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
= --_41d13f05-f2d7-439d-81a7-72aef3aedc86_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 21:45:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1532B183476; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 21:45:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_669ccf5d-660b-45d2-af7b-58dfe9daf09f_" X-Originating-IP: [81.233.147.253] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: Octotrack... Still a mystery... Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 21:45:05 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Sep 2012 21:45:05.0318 (UTC) FILETIME=[8A198C60:01CD8F9D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118238 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 21:45:06 +0000 (UTC) --_669ccf5d-660b-45d2-af7b-58dfe9daf09f_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MArk and any one that might be interested...Some quick answers.. " the Pickup machine thing=2C seems like a pretty basic looper=2C with over d= ub=2C cant really see how it can do feedback or editing on the fly=2C or an= ything but its very hard to tell. " Feedback is easy it's on the playback m= enu and is called "gain" if it's 0 feedback is at even=2C positive numbers = INCREASE volume of the loop with each overdub=2C and negative numbers decre= ase volume of the loop.. it can be set to affect feedback just during overd= ub or at play back.. there are also a multply function (press "MIDI" to mul= tiply active pickup machine and there is reverse... of course you can also = affect pitch of playback.. and if you chose to playback a loop done in pick= up mode on a flex channel you can affect rate and quite a few other paremet= ers.. the of course you can sample loops with recorders or record loops to = loops.. so it is not a EDP or LP1 but it can do stuff those machines can't.= . even with loops (if you count live recorded samples or re-sampled loops a= s lve looping)" Its seems to be mostly a drum-machine type thing=2C "> i see it more as a = sampling synth.. but it is also a great rhytm machine.. " Im looking for a pretty fluid and jammable drum-machine and sequencer=2C so= I think Octo will do that for me=2C has some interesting muting and morphi= ng of parameters... "> yes that's rather easy=2C especially with live reco= rding to patterns.. " On Octotrack its seems (from the YouTube vidz) that its all endless going = in and out of menus=2C scrolling to parameter=2C or.. assigning things to t= hings... JESUS:. Its looks just so obtuse! "> Well the "problem" is that yo= u can do so MUCH with the OCTA=2C i use perhaps 20% of the functions and it= keeps me feeling creative.. For me it was quite easy to find a way of doi= ng something fun and then i started to add stuff as I went along. LEarn it = in small steps or you WILL be frustrated... Sequencer=2C track on off=2C pl= aying with scenes=2C live recoding mode keeps me busy.. then e learned how = to edit=2C slice alter loop points on the fly.. but as said i have not used= a LOT of features=2C i seldom use more that 2 scenes=2C have NEVER used ar= ranger or parts.. yet..=20 I pretty much work within a few projects so i seldom worry about sets.. i h= ave a few projects with settings to start from=2C mich change some samples = and effects=2C alter time signature of tracks and then I'm ready. Quite oft= en i just turn it on=2C using the project that happens to be there have fun= until famaily disturbs and if i have done some cool stuff=2C save and come= back later.. I HATE setting up that's why i don't use a computer.. "like s= etting up rythmic triggers BEFORE the sample is recorded=2C " > you don't have to do that you can sample just buy pressing record.. but h= aving a record on a triggers ensures that it starts exactly in time with ev= erything else on the sequencer..=20 "My music is amde by walking into my stdio and starting to play the guitar.= .. I find and tweak patches as I go along=2C I loop bits=2C process bits an= d loop some more... then The kid comes in and asks me to play PlayStation w= ith him=2C and I turn it all off... Or... I turn up at the cafe with my gea= r=2C my drummer turns up and we play... I dont have time for "programming" = But want beats and drum-machine... so hows the experience of using Octotrac= k=2C what does it feel like?"> FOR ME it feels great=2C it is my instrument= now=2C as said i fire it up "tweak patches" wich om the octa means adjustu= ng effects=2C changing some samplles=2C most sequencing alteration is done = while playing.. I like the interface but there is a learing curve and if yo= u have VERY specific ideas on how you want to work the octa might not fit..= . but if you are willing to be inspired to do things that you maybe haven't= imagined yet the octa can be great fun and inspirational. Don't know if I'm helping..=20 twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ = --_669ccf5d-660b-45d2-af7b-58dfe9daf09f_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MArk and any one that might be interested...Some quick answers.. =3B" the Pickup machine thing=2C seems like a pretty basic looper=2C with over d= ub=2C cant really see how it can do feedback or editing on the fly=2C or an= ything but its very hard to tell. =3B" =3B
Feedback is ea= sy it's on the playback =3Bmenu =3Band is called "gain" if it's 0 f= eedback is at even=2C positive numbers INCREASE volume of the loop with eac= h overdub=2C and negative numbers decrease volume of the loop.. it can be s= et to affect feedback just during overdub or at play back.. there are also = a multply function (press "MIDI" to multiply active pickup machine and ther= e is reverse... of course you can also affect pitch of playback.. and if yo= u chose to playback a loop done in pickup mode on a flex channel you can af= fect rate and quite a few other paremeters.. the of course you can sample l= oops with recorders or record loops to loops.. so it is not a EDP or LP1 bu= t it can do stuff those machines can't.. even with loops (if you count live= recorded samples or re-sampled loops as lve looping)
"  =3BIts seems to be mostly a drum-machine type thing=2C =3B"
<= div>>=3B i see it more as a sampling synth.. but it is also a great rhytm= machine.. =3B
" Im looking for a pretty fluid and jammable drum-machine and sequencer=2C so= I think Octo will do that for me=2C has some interesting muting and morphi= ng of parameters... =3B =3B"
>=3B yes that's rather eas= y=2C especially with live recording to patterns.. =3B
"  =3BOn Octotrack its seems (from the YouTube vidz) that its all endless= going in and out of menus=2C scrolling to parameter=2C or.. assigning thin= gs to things... JESUS:. Its looks just so obtuse! =3B"
>=3B= Well the "problem" is that you can do so MUCH with the OCTA=2C i use perha= ps 20% of the functions and it keeps me feeling creative.. For  =3Bme i= t was quite easy to find a way of doing something fun and then i started to= add stuff as I went along. LEarn it in small steps or you WILL be frustrat= ed... Sequencer=2C track on off=2C playing with scenes=2C live recoding mod= e keeps me busy.. then e learned how to edit=2C slice alter loop points on = the fly.. but as said i have not used a LOT of features=2C i seldom use mor= e that 2 scenes=2C have NEVER used arranger or parts.. yet.. =3B
<= div>
I pretty much work within a few projects so i seldom wor= ry about sets.. i have a few projects with settings to start from=2C mich c= hange some samples and effects=2C alter time signature of tracks and then I= 'm ready. Quite often i just turn it on=2C using the project that happens t= o be there have fun until famaily disturbs and if i have done some cool stu= ff=2C save and come back later.. I HATE setting up that's why i don't use a= computer.. =3B
"like setting up rythmic triggers BEFORE the = sample is recorded=2C =3B"
>=3B you don't have to do that you can = sample just buy pressing record.. but having a record on a triggers ensures= that it starts exactly in time with everything else on the sequencer..&nbs= p=3B

"My music= is amde by walking into my stdio and starting to play the guitar... I find= and tweak patches as I go along=2C I loop bits=2C process bits and loop so= me more... then The kid comes in and asks me to play PlayStation with him= =2C and I turn it all off... Or... I turn up at the cafe with my gear=2C my= drummer turns up and we play... I dont have time for "programming" But wan= t beats and drum-machine... so hows the experience of using Octotrack=2C wh= at does it feel like?"
>=3B FOR ME it feels great=2C it is my instrument now=2C as said i fire = it up "tweak patches" wich om the octa means adjustung effects=2C changing = some samplles=2C most sequencing alteration is done while playing.. I like = the interface but there is a learing curve and if you have VERY specific id= eas on how you want to work the octa might not fit... but if you are willin= g to be inspired to do things that you maybe haven't imagined yet the octa = can be great fun and inspirational.

Don= 't know if I'm helping.. =3B
= --_669ccf5d-660b-45d2-af7b-58dfe9daf09f_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 21:50:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 380E3183475; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 21:50:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=OlNmIQlvQffj1cjKkZQev/igfjvUVhYQvbQVnxxtWq4=; b=Hh0vUVzoFxwnV740Oi9kxHWe4wrP35Umwkz6NZlkbxNMGQVZ66awe0fnb8tX21dPnK rnE82wHtI35LkbSiJY54bNFtDqpFosfu2e4Y28knKSI4ftKfFgm7cvJIOWfls3+6V0+A +qblz8irFyzOMPYOW8VEOqMWHkIx13rA+D9KTZmgDJbym09VFZqXPPYuXH0ASiRwS1WL /St2dYSEvZREolRy1Ot11yw0rZxupTGsRPLQgqHKhPu9rLDtgwXyI2PBEuNPSY0QCN1B U2tYJZFooUg4c8UM80U1jXcd566MlwrDfWm8+GJI9V/5jjjU0mQ/xba1fB3Q0IN6Uo+3 K10g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <6663FB10-5BF4-4A3F-AFEC-7FB308B90E45@mac.com> References: <-8381857238922045788@unknownmsgid> <504E4A41.4040008@cruzio.com> <6663FB10-5BF4-4A3F-AFEC-7FB308B90E45@mac.com> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 23:50:02 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: WZNktLhkkBRwUA3_baQZroHckX0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Repetition Repetition was Repetition To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b621e12cd314404c95ff119 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118239 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 21:50:23 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b621e12cd314404c95ff119 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 SACRILIGE! On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Daniel Thomas wrote: > Isn't there a musical genre dedicated to this approach? "Black Metal" -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b621e12cd314404c95ff119 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable SACRILIGE!

On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:55 = PM, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com> wrote:
Isn't there a musical genre dedicated to this approach? =A0 "Black= Metal"



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--047d7b621e12cd314404c95ff119-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 21:52:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 91DD0183478; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 21:52:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_dac78f78-ac5e-449c-bec9-77652d6f1710_" X-Originating-IP: [81.233.147.253] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: @Anders, for the OT (I make it public so that anybody can learn more about the OT) Answer to Mark Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 21:52:16 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Sep 2012 21:52:16.0302 (UTC) FILETIME=[8AFC7CE0:01CD8F9E] Resent-Message-ID: <7gbulC.A.jfC.REmTQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118240 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 21:52:17 +0000 (UTC) --_dac78f78-ac5e-449c-bec9-77652d6f1710_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "and can I cut n paste between projects or spin things in=2C in synch=2C o= n the fly WITHOUT pre-prep. I THINK so=2C using the audio pool=2C with good= foldering of samples it LOOKS like one can do everything without stopping = the machine. (The main issue I have with Electribe actually.. that one cant= record audio to a sample without stopping the drum-machine)" That is NOT a problem.. Put you're favorites in the pool and it is very eas= y to change.. you can do it in live recording mode by pressing "function" a= nd up arrow" choose "slots" and you can instantly play the slots.. and live= record it to the sequencer... you can easily save a live recorded sample a= ssign it as a slot and jam on it.. you don't need to save a recording done = live in order to slice it=2C change rate=2C loop points.. whatever.. the wh= ole point with the octatrack is live sampling and sample editing.. without = stopping anything..=20 = --_dac78f78-ac5e-449c-bec9-77652d6f1710_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 =3B"and can I cut n paste betw= een projects or spin things in=2C in synch=2C on the fly WITHOUT pre-prep. = I THINK so=2C using the audio pool=2C with good foldering of samples it LOO= KS like one can do everything without stopping the machine. (The main issue= I have with Electribe actually.. that one cant record audio to a sample wi= thout stopping the drum-machine)"

That is NOT a problem.. Put you're favorites in the pool and it is very= easy to change.. you can do it in live recording mode by pressing "functio= n" and up arrow" choose "slots" and you can instantly play the slots.. and = live record it to the sequencer... you can =3Beasily =3Bsave a live= recorded sample assign it as a slot and jam on it.. you don't need to save= a recording done live in order to slice it=2C change rate=2C loop points..= whatever.. the whole point with the octatrack is live sampling and sample = editing.. without stopping anything.. =3B


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= --_dac78f78-ac5e-449c-bec9-77652d6f1710_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 22:02:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B2ED18347C; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 22:02:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=1vKOeMphmb6bU6BiCnyKxRMzdcKn3+ZQo1AZ4BeCqbE=; b=i5yfGrLghkuCVAEdT7I+nxH8Q+fOn2yrW2jmnnVrYtmghzwVeXiMc3LXvj3q2QM+UT rUFAu49KMTrQfOXUjQNcAKxsqFMkEBYviNUZRCy7/WtddIlPO9OAv7w5trkknVfQ/7co R5tFzYJ4Te6eyC2GL4uDamsBy+eYZuMHK6FyKPVFE9O34bb6aLWvW7+3VNSCIIAFXp8c aK6xbOLdoPw84184IWlacIZcOMuRrCjpq802Mym2PuYnuSDHE8dMCX4aJJSrB/LmErJK sLGAkBM9uJb3pMdTzAEBC3/kmCEcL0k0tv6E+k0UU6NPFb15YraLUIENhXkjOyJns9Mm Ejgw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 00:02:34 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: pnVCZ30xQqIZUveAchtCDd49Wl0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Octotrack... Still a mystery... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b34372aa5608504c9601e27 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118241 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 22:02:56 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b34372aa5608504c9601e27 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:45 PM, Anders Bergdahl < anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com> wrote: > > FOR ME it feels great, it is my instrument now, > Thats a sentance I like to hear... > as said i fire it up "tweak patches" wich om the octa means adjustung > effects, changing some samplles, most sequencing alteration is done while > playing.. > Sounding even better... I like the interface but there is a learing curve and if you have VERY > specific ideas on how you want to work the octa might not fit... > I can do learning curve, just as long as I get there in the end... > but if you are willing to be inspired to do things that you maybe haven't > imagined yet the octa can be great fun and inspirational. > This is why I like technology, to let it carve new paths for me... I LIKE the limitations and the routes it forces you to take... > > Don't know if I'm helping.. > Dude.. ALOT!!! This was very useful and good stuff... Where are you living again? Norway or Sweden... I might just wanna take a road trip... or if ever you are near Oslo, remember to pack the OT... you have free accommodation in exchange for a tutorial!! (godamit why aint my stuff selling???) ;-) -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b34372aa5608504c9601e27 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:45 PM, Anders= Bergdahl <anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com> wrote:=
> FOR ME it feels great, it is my in= strument now,

Thats a sentance I like to= hear...
=A0
as said i fire it up "tweak patche= s" wich om the octa means adjustung effects, changing some samplles, m= ost sequencing alteration is done while playing..

Sounding even better...

I like the interface but there is a = learing curve and if you have VERY specific ideas on how you want to work t= he octa might not fit...

I can do learning curve, just as long as I get there = in the end...
=A0
but if you are willing to be inspired to do things that= you maybe haven't imagined yet the octa can be great fun and inspirati= onal.

This is why I like technology, to let it carve new pa= ths for me... I LIKE the limitations and the routes it forces you to take..= .

Don't know if I'm helping..=A0

Dude.. ALOT!!! This was very useful and good stuff... Where are= you living again? Norway or Sweden... I might just wanna take a road trip.= .. or if ever you are near Oslo, remember to pack the OT... you have free a= ccommodation in exchange for a tutorial!!

(godamit why aint my stuff selling???)

;-)


--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
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--047d7b34372aa5608504c9601e27-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 22:05:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A108D18347D; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 22:05:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JsF+FGfW3nmSeaW4AJ0duP0wX9/68CWdRVbFdTqXjOU=; b=UpKZON44+L3PsjOdVY3KbZ+Phgw2v6qTfj6tN8fgAU10DZxCe570lWaIxGs/qLZDlv UrIauwaNUDS5HVz0+we3F16mhjQs0K1nb31AU+nglmeW9/NLCWpoQiWxembLV1GphM59 R7izE3fapC6ZV/RDkezEm2hDy0FUbqVukjwGnGBLRftBrD2IwDDAJBl7eiuPM1ltP/80 FoWtSY2ecXZyWAFFg0JoaTPOMybIUUs/UNL0O5UAF47OJ1f8V5Sz7CkCUmp5pWqQRasZ AELBy5CXP6ovoWaf/P+0802C0HvC6F4yLWW0CqWThX4aEtQzmfigJa9dD/ADpaybBhrd wJZQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:05:22 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Reptilian Reptilian was Reptilian From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118242 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 22:05:23 +0000 (UTC) I hope black metal doesn't include all the technique and creativity known to man! It would be a world of "JUD"! "Hello, How are you doing" would be translated as "JUD JUD! JudJudJudJudJudJudJudJud JUD! JudJudJud JUD! JudJudJudJudJud" -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com Rick Walker was all: > >> no repetition if I can help it................after 30 seconds, it's >> almost completely unlistenable, despite the years of technique and creativity I've put >> into trying to achieve some mastery of my instrument. Then Daniel Thomas was like: > > Isn't there a musical genre dedicated to this approach? "Black Metal" > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 22:09:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 399CB18347F; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 22:09:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1402105154==" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20120910220922.9989.24642.levelstar.mail@everest> Sender: Tyler Reply-to: Tyler From: Tyler Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:09:24 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Subject: Re: Reptilian Reptilian was Reptilian Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118243 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 22:09:23 +0000 (UTC) Unable to read this email, please upgrage your mail client --===============1402105154== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've=20never=20heard=20anything=20go=20"jud=20jud=20jud." Tyler=20Z On=20Mon,=2010=20Sep=202012=2015:05:22=20-0700,=20Matt=20Davignon=20wrote: >I=20hope=20black=20metal=20doesn't=20include=20all=20the=20technique=20and= =20creativity >known=20to=20man!=20It=20would=20be=20a=20world=20of=20"JUD"! > >"Hello,=20How=20are=20you=20doing"=20would=20be=20translated=20as=20"JUD= =20JUD! >JudJudJudJudJudJudJudJud=20JUD!=20JudJudJud=20JUD!=20JudJudJudJudJud" > >--=20 >Matt=20Davignon >mattdavignon@gmail.com >www.ribosomemusic.com >Podcast!=20http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com > > >Rick=20Walker=20was=20all: >> >>>no=20repetition=20if=20I=20can=20help=20it................after=2030=20s= econds,=20it's >>>almost=20completely=20unlistenable,=20despite=20the=20years=20of=20techn= ique=20and=20creativity=20 >>>I've=20put >>>into=20trying=20to=20achieve=20some=20mastery=20of=20my=20instrument. > > >Then=20Daniel=20Thomas=20was=20like: >> >>Isn't=20there=20a=20musical=20genre=20dedicated=20to=20this=20approach?= =20=20=20"Black=20Metal" >> --===============1402105154==-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 22:38:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B74318347F; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 22:38:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=G/FJLdig3U1QWPySXRRbjLBzluDhWg5ZjbSGv3OUcgg=; b=q3Oi70/J1UqSyV/tdEN5aq3Ui+iSjA13bSyiO+p60nsrmChyhEeUIman7/KL4yUp7k EqPV7+vqLVpROKMgMY++JChUn7PggevayUl2XqUQK/rRvd0cZng/dbWVyiS6HjopVTJU d+X+kSjwkIPC1QAOyZxiSlv+9m8YeOD2ss7/GuOJdpO0sZbndS4S0gAuQdtV8Wl5aD9A 8Gd3E8PXDQKHZ/4BGqq0HyShscICf6PLdBDRcPEF320JWwnSs/quNi4kUhuzEHhE4DNz P0pZoxFRKgkeNuieu1sgy70YonomhjLn+BRruw5hRVh+jjMw8vVYr6RIv+17NmFhU0eJ 5qig== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20120910220922.9989.24642.levelstar.mail@everest> References: <20120910220922.9989.24642.levelstar.mail@everest> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:38:26 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Reptilian Reptilian was Reptilian From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118244 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 22:38:26 +0000 (UTC) That's the language of death/thrash/black metal guitars (well, specifically the rhythm guitars): jud jud jud jud Tyler went: > I've never heard anything go "jud jud jud." Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 22:39:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4CB63183482; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 22:39:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=v9vUCTyoXCiV3yE4qslgFuTcQ2NhVoT2/2DuLkJVrKc=; b=W5tvCzQmveW0s3yKIka5tLRJOQ269qEOMd58QANRnSk6Hgrmw9+sFo1ufy6wuHv622 0oNo1gDAlnn/3YMNWENG2Z7+NzqZxaOwxcrW7a5NVeajprEUmhFu28nZwq22ng2ZNBxv BzRuCoGxRiCjzzd90KEGUbAsjNTmPJP2GLjNO/3XAuE8TpKCeycDLbpQvoiBP56bLvUZ UjZunzsZNkUKU71CDLYt5+DTWln0x9g5Vn02YvWVvqvilr+vCBFo4vrLMjq30bzd9lRT 9XmOYnRnVdl2zE/G77Fq2YZOydc/nFMs2MK4Woj1D2G9kf73rvQFYUoO8fZYcjsz9DBE s7TA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20120910220922.9989.24642.levelstar.mail@everest> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:39:12 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Reptilian Reptilian was Reptilian From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <7hM_y.A.eUD.RwmTQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118245 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 22:39:13 +0000 (UTC) Looks like I just got my "OT"! On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > That's the language of death/thrash/black metal guitars (well, > specifically the rhythm guitars): jud jud jud jud > > Tyler went: >> I've never heard anything go "jud jud jud." > > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 22:46:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BAEE418348E; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 22:46:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=/MscmFqiuTQvpWTDaINMwyEa0MMwQf6J5gwF6KcGSSk=; b=o713V7hSfEcWgg8L27ErIbPMZdBG3Ojn6UBgsCF1NZ+PEy4It1EXxWemzzRwp19xnp InxTHnmUGeLpaKNNHNIY0tQricWeFUj3OkkL4nCVTIfLkQFrTB6380sz6FEX5hVJcLvG eJtC5tnry1AV/2Xe4Tia0/rsvQTMdeYHJRsbWD83fYdlgwfv1Ra/6oBBBNzbl0oKnVkN 3ePh2UFSgAt3iYmC33Sgo4R/w2Sq2urgspJydVrn7QFmfWbKSJM6s5SOYPUjYj2weDHY +FQxsDgaHwGvsgHHR9bLvvwB2JQHSgNJVMeRNDr4bjuOyW3L+JnlaozY4T0a4yTja/m6 5GqQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20120910220922.9989.24642.levelstar.mail@everest> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:46:44 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Reptilian Reptilian was Reptilian From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54a32c05de4be04c960bb09 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118246 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 22:46:45 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec54a32c05de4be04c960bb09 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34GA_vuP14A On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > That's the language of death/thrash/black metal guitars (well, > specifically the rhythm guitars): jud jud jud jud > > Tyler went: > > I've never heard anything go "jud jud jud." > > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com > > --bcaec54a32c05de4be04c960bb09 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.youtube= .com/watch?v=3D34GA_vuP14A

On Mon, Se= p 10, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com><= /span> wrote:
That's the language of death/thrash/blac= k metal guitars (well,
specifically the rhythm guitars): jud jud jud jud

Tyler <programmer651@comcas= t.net> went:
> I've never heard anything go "jud jud jud."

Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusi= c.com
Podcast! ht= tp://ribosomematt.podomatic.com


--bcaec54a32c05de4be04c960bb09-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 22:48:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 328B4183462; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 22:48:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=lsCNNCtCiyFlmtmIPhb6nUU+0ByT8RyTXQr6VjHGZBk=; b=hl47+5U1hyxU1efmdm59WXvDbvFlS3npE7ozYtgcTsHY02naKPSn2571fMwN3cqLRK mQ6BdgsnjjBjSsPzMy30MXUVqVmgwUdcLt8rv2tGltvVx0Fo895kkyu6taQ1s/Fd8C+/ zX7Uzl395VFUTJ8gmWogmVURXbIL4sIi/AsJlTP9nTBOoPp7oBb5rJdJ+O6E94HPRaaW 1NiiFElkG8hULsnyS4PJR7E/fugLgLtcfXAdeli/XJ1SrSSBD7PvEbkcnHPD4YfN6T/C 1Bv6hxo5M8mwFkcXGlQVk8KL15wWZOEmsGrjFvlosIyWKepOvBeUU3G3CU+OLqK5tkXP DJ1w== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20120910220922.9989.24642.levelstar.mail@everest> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:48:23 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Reptilian Reptilian was Reptilian From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118247 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 22:48:24 +0000 (UTC) also http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2006/05/audio_hoaxes_an.html ...about the acapella metal duo Jud Jud On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34GA_vuP14A > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Matt Davignon > wrote: >> >> That's the language of death/thrash/black metal guitars (well, >> specifically the rhythm guitars): jud jud jud jud >> >> Tyler went: >> > I've never heard anything go "jud jud jud." >> >> Matt Davignon >> mattdavignon@gmail.com >> www.ribosomemusic.com >> Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com >> > -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 22:49:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 385D418347F; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 22:49:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 487 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 22:49:04 UTC Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1402105154==" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20120910224059.11705.24642.levelstar.mail@everest> Sender: Tyler Reply-to: Tyler From: Tyler Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:41:00 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Subject: Re: Reptilian Reptilian was Reptilian Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118248 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 22:49:04 +0000 (UTC) Unable to read this email, please upgrage your mail client --===============1402105154== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just=20like=20the=20language=20of=20darwintunes.org=20looping=20music,=20"K= ippy=20dippy=20dippy=20dippy,=20 kippy=20dippy=20dippy=20dippy!"=20But,=20for=20some=20reason,=20I=20like=20= it. Tyler=20Z On=20Mon,=2010=20Sep=202012=2015:38:26=20-0700,=20Matt=20Davignon=20wrote: >That's=20the=20language=20of=20death/thrash/black=20metal=20guitars=20(wel= l, >specifically=20the=20rhythm=20guitars):=20jud=20jud=20jud=20jud > >Tyler=20=20went: >>I've=20never=20heard=20anything=20go=20"jud=20jud=20jud." > >Matt=20Davignon >mattdavignon@gmail.com >www.ribosomemusic.com >Podcast!=20http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com --===============1402105154==-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 22:51:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A208183494; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 22:50:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=sw3+9iObxzFhQkNcjCTVd6Um9EZFcLtZPDnAyo9Pp+g=; b=AE2KGTByaj5QgHsMeJwujrU+FtfUg1wlolI2JCRhi0s0v/j2IqJ48kyrhoMAJ6eW6j AvDblz4qkve08Poyy3f3FZtLsPaiAdH1Ja0aSdXeHcNXjEIaZC/2mzZ8n/ezlO9fwTm+ 5yA6I/RtAAboQ6qK7RIeDx62VBsN/YEMw+WcUJ3N0y6rVUT7J3LnfW8tYEkgPuxB148s tIArWs/M4DSX6G37CPdLLXQcdlz9JuMp/Gzc0ePmznwL8YbO6Le/O9ZOxSq0YoXEQp1F w42KIAV5qvyQas3czuXE4pmDtXeW2ruYpCym1CSEZQIun60+bSp3HC75ASgIDgCmcJ9E quXA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20120910220922.9989.24642.levelstar.mail@everest> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:50:58 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Reptilian Reptilian was Reptilian From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0401f9ff882b2604c960ca39 Resent-Message-ID: <7xKNO.A.LvD.T7mTQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118249 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 22:50:59 +0000 (UTC) --f46d0401f9ff882b2604c960ca39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Perfect! On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:48 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > also > > http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2006/05/audio_hoaxes_an.html > > ...about the acapella metal duo Jud Jud > > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34GA_vuP14A > > > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Matt Davignon > > wrote: > >> > >> That's the language of death/thrash/black metal guitars (well, > >> specifically the rhythm guitars): jud jud jud jud > >> > >> Tyler went: > >> > I've never heard anything go "jud jud jud." > >> > >> Matt Davignon > >> mattdavignon@gmail.com > >> www.ribosomemusic.com > >> Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com > >> > > > > > > -- > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com > > --f46d0401f9ff882b2604c960ca39 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Perfect!

On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:48 PM,= Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com> wrote:
also

http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2006/05/audio_hoaxes_an.html

...about the acapella metal duo Jud Jud


On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D34GA_vuP14A
>
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> That's the language of death/thrash/black metal guitars (well,=
>> specifically the rhythm guitars): jud jud jud jud
>>
>> Tyler <programmer6= 51@comcast.net> went:
>> > I've never heard anything go "jud jud jud."
>>
>> Matt Davignon
>> mattdavignon@gmail.com
>> www.rib= osomemusic.com
>> Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com
>>
>



--
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusi= c.com
Podcast! ht= tp://ribosomematt.podomatic.com


--f46d0401f9ff882b2604c960ca39-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 23:36:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F2FC2183463; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 23:36:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_d161e7ea-a232-48ff-94a4-4da739a1bf55_" X-Originating-IP: [92.228.255.239] From: Sergio G Sender: To: Subject: RE: Reptilian Reptilian was Reptilian Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 23:36:21 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <20120910220922.9989.24642.levelstar.mail@everest>,,,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Sep 2012 23:36:21.0351 (UTC) FILETIME=[15535770:01CD8FAD] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118250 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 23:36:23 +0000 (UTC) --_d161e7ea-a232-48ff-94a4-4da739a1bf55_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Everything started with the Beatles and their He Jud=2C very famous pop met= al song... Anyway=2C talking seriously=2C everything in life is a loop. Seasons are a = loop=2C for example.And we hare full of habits and mental schemes which we = repeats constantly.I am a bit obsessive indeed=2C as personality=2C so I we= ll thought to play loops=2C to save my soul.Sort of homeopathy...Date: Mon= =2C 10 Sep 2012 18:50:58 -0400 Subject: Re: Reptilian Reptilian was Reptilian From: jeffloops@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Perfect! On Mon=2C Sep 10=2C 2012 at 6:48 PM=2C Matt Davignon wrote: also http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2006/05/audio_hoaxes_an.html ....about the acapella metal duo Jud Jud On Mon=2C Sep 10=2C 2012 at 3:46 PM=2C Jeff Duke wrot= e: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D34GA_vuP14A > > On Mon=2C Sep 10=2C 2012 at 6:38 PM=2C Matt Davignon > wrote: >> >> That's the language of death/thrash/black metal guitars (well=2C >> specifically the rhythm guitars): jud jud jud jud >> >> Tyler went: >> > I've never heard anything go "jud jud jud." >> >> Matt Davignon >> mattdavignon@gmail.com >> www.ribosomemusic.com >> Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com >> > -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com = --_d161e7ea-a232-48ff-94a4-4da739a1bf55_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Everything started with the Beatles and their He Jud=2C very famous pop met= al song...
Anyway=2C talking seriously=2C everything in life is a loop. = Seasons are a loop=2C for example.
And we hare full of habits and menta= l schemes which we repeats constantly.
I am a bit obsessive indee= d=2C as personality=2C so I well thought to play loops=2C to save my soul.<= /div>
Sort of homeopathy...
Date: Mon=2C 10 Sep 2012 18:50:58 -0= 400
Subject: Re: Reptilian Reptilian was Reptilian
From: jeffloops@gm= ail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Perfect!

<= div class=3D"ecxgmail_quote">On Mon=2C Sep 10=2C 2012 at 6:48 PM=2C Matt Da= vignon <=3Bma= ttdavignon@gmail.com>=3B wrote:
also

http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2006/05/audio_hoaxes_an.html

....about the acapella metal duo Jud Jud


On Mon=2C Sep 10=2C 2012 at 3:46 PM=2C Jeff Duke <=3Bjeffloops@gmail.com>=3B wrote:
>=3B http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D34GA_vuP14A
>=3B
>=3B On Mon=2C Sep 10=2C 2012 at 6:38 PM=2C Matt Davignon <=3Bmattdavignon@gmail.com>=3B
>=3B wrote:
>=3B>=3B
>=3B>=3B That's the language of death/thrash/black metal guitars (well= =2C
>=3B>=3B specifically the rhythm guitars): jud jud jud jud
>=3B>=3B
>=3B>=3B Tyler <=3Bprogr= ammer651@comcast.net>=3B went:
>=3B>=3B >=3B I've never heard anything go "jud jud jud."
>=3B>=3B
>=3B>=3B Matt Davignon
>=3B>=3B mattdavignon@gmail.c= om
>=3B>=3B www= .ribosomemusic.com
>=3B>=3B Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com
>=3B>=3B
>=3B



--
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusi= c.com
Podcast! ht= tp://ribosomematt.podomatic.com


= --_d161e7ea-a232-48ff-94a4-4da739a1bf55_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 10 23:50:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 14DC6183463; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 23:50:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [205.167.120.203] X-EIP: [fbUz4O6GPlzUC+4MY8p6UiQhfAll4SaT/yFi0vno08E=] X-Originating-Email: [apacheci5@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Subject: Re: @Anders, about the Octatrack (I make it public so that everybody can learn more about it) References: From: kelly maxwell Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-E9474FC6-EE4C-4424-9A77-929B51E07CB9" In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:50:38 -0600 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Sep 2012 23:50:42.0894 (UTC) FILETIME=[16D85EE0:01CD8FAF] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118251 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 23:50:44 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-E9474FC6-EE4C-4424-9A77-929B51E07CB9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thank you all!! I tried loading some of the downloads from ot website and pu= t them in the folder, but when I tried to retrieve from ot, they wouldn't sh= ow up, and the file was still in folder. Thanks again. Any info is greatly a= ppreciated. I really really want to make this machine work, I want to sync i= t with my maschine some day........kelly Sent from my iPhone On Sep 10, 2012, at 3:09 PM, "Sergio G" wrote: > Nah, but the factory stuff is just for the demo. I also received my used o= ne with a formatted card so nothing inside. > I watched the tutorial in Elektron site, I have created a set, a project, l= oaded samples (I have downloaded from Elektron site the three free demo samp= les pack from loopmasters, and copied the folders into the AUDIO folder of t= he Project in the OT card -OT was connected via usb). > Then I used those samples to do trials while watching other tutorials. >=20 > Watch the tutorials in Elektron site :) >=20 > From: mark@markfrancombe.com > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 22:06:34 +0200 > Subject: Re: @Anders, for the OT (I make it public so that anybody can lea= rn more about the OT) > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Wow that sounds harsh... theres no way to reload all the factory stuff? >=20 > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 8:39 PM, kelly maxwell wro= te: > I have had an Ot for 6 months and only had about 4 hours to spend with it.= I accidentally erased all of the demo sounds in it and have had a of a rou= gh time loading my own sounds and using them. I watched the tutorials by oct= atrack and have had little result. I am interested in learning with u.......= . Kelly >=20 > Sent from my iPhone >=20 > On Sep 10, 2012, at 5:17 AM, "mark francombe" wro= te: >=20 > I'll just pipe in here Sergio, I went thru all these... >=20 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfICr_n5NgnI&list=3DUUL0xWyrKvKkZkvXesqHLc= ow&feature=3Dplcp >=20 > ...at the weekend, and it was probably usefull IF I HAD an OT sat there in= front of me, which I dont! >=20 > Im very much interested in joining you as one of the OT owners here, but h= ave to sell stuff first and even then need to see if its really what I need.= I want it PARTLY for the looping, but I do have 3 other loopers already. Im= not looking for a replacement, but very interested in the triggering and mo= rphin of params... IN COMBINATION with drum-machine style pre-prep stuff. If= I can program some midi for external gear, even better... but its alot abou= t HOW I can control this, and can I cut n paste between projects or spin thi= ngs in, in synch, on the fly WITHOUT pre-prep. I THINK so, using the audio p= ool, with good foldering of samples it LOOKS like one can do everything with= out stopping the machine. (The main issue I have with Electribe actually.. t= hat one cant record audio to a sample without stopping the drum-machine) >=20 > Love to hear how you get on... we expect a daily report here, with samples= !!! >=20 > ;-) >=20 > Mark >=20 > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Sergio G wrote:= > Hello Anders! >=20 > I have three questions for you! :) >=20 > 1) do you know if there are trusty, reliable video tutorial about the OT, s= tarting from ZERO (for who just opened the package), and with the new OS? > In Synthopia I saw a video which drove me CRAZY till I realized "damn, wai= t, maybe it was made with an old OS". It was IMPOSSIBLE to reproduce what he= was doing... :) And it was indeed made with the first OS! >=20 > 2) I see that the quick live usability could be a problem with all those m= enus and combinations of buttons. I wonder if it would not be possible to au= tomatize some commands with a midi (foot or hand) controller, so that I can j= ust push one button and the OT would execute a sequence of command without m= e having to open thousand menus. >=20 > 3) Suppose that I have 4 tracks with 4 different samples, not too long, bu= t not just one note. Something like "du-bi-da-bi-di-bu-pi-ram-pam-ta-ta-ta",= just to say. > I want to be able to press the button corresponding to that track, and hav= e the track playing only till I hold down the button. But I cannot. If I pre= ss one track button it will play till its end. > I want to be able to play with the tracks very quickly, deciding how long m= ust play each one.=20 > But even if I use the mute function, then when I unmute it will not start f= rom the beginning, and I want to start from the beginning! > Is it possible? >=20 > Thanks! > From: anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: RE: OT arrived!!! > Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 21:40:32 +0000 >=20 > good news... hope you will enjoy it :-) >=20 > From: simpliflying@gmail.com > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: OT arrived!!! > Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 13:15:34 +0000 >=20 > HEY Delightful brothers! >=20 > It is here. > Arrived. Still packed, I am at work in this moment so I cannot open it but= tonight is the night with my new baby, and love will flow! > Now Anders, you are not alone anymore. > I mean that I will ask you lot of things, ahahah! > :) >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ >=20 --Apple-Mail-E9474FC6-EE4C-4424-9A77-929B51E07CB9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" PGh0bWw+PGhlYWQ+PC9oZWFkPjxib2R5IGJnY29sb3I9IiNGRkZGRkYiPjxkaXY+VGhhbmsgeW91 IGFsbCEhIEkgdHJpZWQgbG9hZGluZyBzb21lIG9mIHRoZSBkb3dubG9hZHMgZnJvbSBvdCB3ZWJz 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FILETIME=[BD4AA250:01CD8FB5] Resent-Message-ID: <34n73C.A.SDF.9foTQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118252 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 00:38:21 +0000 (UTC) --_c3f2d7aa-32f3-4abe-9b24-bc48b25e4e75_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok=2C so=2C that's what I can tell you (because I did it and it worked):go = here=20 http://www.elektron.se/products/octatrack?section=3Dsounds and then go to = the older videos and watch the know-how 1. Follow it step by step=2C it is = very clear and it shows you how to create a set=2C how to fill the audio po= ol with samples=2C and how to create a project. In the next video you will = learn to load samples into the machines and assign them to tracks. But let'= s stick with putting samples in the OT now: as said=2C follow the video=2C = create the set=2C connect the OT to the PC=2C when the PC recognized it=2C = in order to be able to access the card you must enter in usb mode. You can = do that by pressing "Mixer" while holding "function". Chose the voice "syst= em" and then "usb disk mode".a popup tell you that now you can access the d= isk.Go to the device in the PC=2C open it and look for the folder of the se= t which you've created before. Open it and look for the folder audio. There= is where you must put your samples. You can organize them in folders. I ju= st unzipped the 3 demo samples downloaded from Elektron=2C and copied the 3= main folders as they were=2C into the Audio folder of the set. Then you ma= y just press "exit/no" on the OT and you exit from usb mode. Then you follo= w thevideo and learn how to create a project. And so on :) Subject: Re: @Anders=2C about the Octatrack (I make it public so that every= body can learn more about it) From: apacheci5@hotmail.com Date: Mon=2C 10 Sep 2012 17:50:38 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Thank you all!! I tried loading some of the downloads from ot website and p= ut them in the folder=2C but when I tried to retrieve from ot=2C they would= n't show up=2C and the file was still in folder. Thanks again. Any info is= greatly appreciated. I really really want to make this machine work=2C I = want to sync it with my maschine some day........kelly Sent from my iPhone On Sep 10=2C 2012=2C at 3:09 PM=2C "Sergio G" wrot= e: Nah=2C but the factory stuff is just for the demo. I also received my used = one with a formatted card so nothing inside.I watched the tutorial in Elekt= ron site=2C I have created a set=2C a project=2C loaded samples (I have dow= nloaded from Elektron site the three free demo samples pack from loopmaster= s=2C and copied the folders into the AUDIO folder of the Project in the OT = card -OT was connected via usb).Then I used those samples to do trials whil= e watching other tutorials. Watch the tutorials in Elektron site :) From: mark@markfrancombe.com Date: Mon=2C 10 Sep 2012 22:06:34 +0200 Subject: Re: @Anders=2C for the OT (I make it public so that anybody can le= arn more about the OT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Wow that sounds harsh... theres no way to reload all the factory stuff? On Mon=2C Sep 10=2C 2012 at 8:39 PM=2C kelly maxwell wrote: I have had an Ot for 6 months and only had about 4 hours to spend with it. = I accidentally erased all of the demo sounds in it and have had a of a rou= gh time loading my own sounds and using them. I watched the tutorials by oc= tatrack and have had little result. I am interested in learning with u.....= ... Kelly Sent from my iPhone On Sep 10=2C 2012=2C at 5:17 AM=2C "mark francombe" wrote: I'll just pipe in here Sergio=2C I went thru all these... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfICr_n5NgnI&list=3DUUL0xWyrKvKkZkvXesqHLco= w&feature=3Dplcp ...at the weekend=2C and it was probably usefull IF I HAD an OT sat there i= n front of me=2C which I dont! Im very much interested in joining you as one of the OT owners here=2C but = have to sell stuff first and even then need to see if its really what I nee= d. I want it PARTLY for the looping=2C but I do have 3 other loopers alread= y. Im not looking for a replacement=2C but very interested in the triggerin= g and morphin of params... IN COMBINATION with drum-machine style pre-prep = stuff. If I can program some midi for external gear=2C even better... but i= ts alot about HOW I can control this=2C and can I cut n paste between proje= cts or spin things in=2C in synch=2C on the fly WITHOUT pre-prep. I THINK s= o=2C using the audio pool=2C with good foldering of samples it LOOKS like o= ne can do everything without stopping the machine. (The main issue I have w= ith Electribe actually.. that one cant record audio to a sample without sto= pping the drum-machine) Love to hear how you get on... we expect a daily report here=2C with sample= s !!! =3B-) Mark On Mon=2C Sep 10=2C 2012 at 12:48 PM=2C Sergio G w= rote: Hello Anders! I have three questions for you! :) 1) do you know if there are trusty=2C reliable video tutorial about the OT= =2C starting from ZERO (for who just opened the package)=2C and with the ne= w OS? In Synthopia I saw a video which drove me CRAZY till I realized "damn=2C wa= it=2C maybe it was made with an old OS". It was IMPOSSIBLE to reproduce wha= t he was doing... :) And it was indeed made with the first OS! 2) I see that the quick live usability could be a problem with all those me= nus and combinations of buttons. I wonder if it would not be possible to au= tomatize some commands with a midi (foot or hand) controller=2C so that I c= an just push one button and the OT would execute a sequence of command with= out me having to open thousand menus. 3) Suppose that I have 4 tracks with 4 different samples=2C not too long=2C= but not just one note. Something like "du-bi-da-bi-di-bu-pi-ram-pam-ta-ta-= ta"=2C just to say. I want to be able to press the button corresponding to that track=2C and ha= ve the track playing only till I hold down the button. But I cannot. If I p= ress one track button it will play till its end.I want to be able to play w= ith the tracks very quickly=2C deciding how long must play each one.=20 But even if I use the mute function=2C then when I unmute it will not start= from the beginning=2C and I want to start from the beginning!Is it possibl= e? Thanks! From: anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: OT arrived!!! Date: Mon=2C 3 Sep 2012 21:40:32 +0000 good news... hope you will enjoy it :-) From: simpliflying@gmail.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT arrived!!! Date: Mon=2C 3 Sep 2012 13:15:34 +0000 HEY Delightful brothers! It is here.Arrived. Still packed=2C I am at work in this moment so I cannot= open it but tonight is the night with my new baby=2C and love will flow!No= w Anders=2C you are not alone anymore. I mean that I will ask you lot of things=2C ahahah!:) =20 --=20 Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.comwww.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --=20 Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.comwww.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ =20 = --_c3f2d7aa-32f3-4abe-9b24-bc48b25e4e75_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ok=2C so=2C that's what I can tell you (because I did it and it worked):go here =3B http= ://www.elektron.se/products/octatrack?section=3Dsounds =3B and then= go to the older videos and watch the know-how 1. Follow it step by step=2C= it is very clear and it shows you how to create a set=2C how to fill the a= udio pool with samples=2C and how to create a project. In the next video yo= u will learn to load samples into the machines and assign them to tracks. B= ut let's stick with putting samples in the OT now: as said=2C follow the vi= deo=2C create the set=2C connect the OT to the PC=2C when the PC recognized= it=2C in order to be able to access the card you must enter in usb mode. Y= ou can do that by pressing "Mixer" while holding "function". Chose the voic= e "system" and then "usb disk mode".
a popup tell you that now yo= u can access the disk.
Go to the device in the PC=2C open it and = look for the folder of the set which you've created before. Open it and loo= k for the folder audio. =3BThere =3Bis where you must put your samp= les. You can organize them in folders. I just unzipped the 3 demo samples d= ownloaded from Elektron=2C and copied the 3 main folders as they were=2C in= to the Audio folder of the set.
 =3BThen you may just press "= exit/no" on the OT and you exit from usb mode. Then you follow thevideo and= learn how to create a project. And so on :)

Subject: Re: @Anders=2C about t= he Octatrack (I make it public so that everybody can learn more about it)From: apacheci5@hotmail.com
Date: Mon=2C 10 Sep 2012 17:50:38 -0600To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Thank you all!! I trie= d loading some of the downloads from ot website and put them in the folder= =2C but when I tried to retrieve from ot=2C they wouldn't show up=2C and th= e file was still in folder.  =3BThanks again. Any info is greatly appre= ciated. I really really  =3Bwant to make this machine work=2C I want to= sync it with my maschine some day........kelly

Sent from my iPhone<= /div>

On Sep 10=2C 2012=2C at 3:09 PM=2C "Sergio G" <=3Bsimpliflying@gmail.com>=3B wrote:<= br>
Nah=2C but the factory stuff is just for the demo. I also received my used = one with a formatted card so nothing inside.
I watched the tutorial in = Elektron site=2C I have created a set=2C a project=2C loaded samples (I hav= e downloaded from Elektron site the three free demo samples pack from loopm= asters=2C and copied the folders into the AUDIO folder of the Project in th= e OT card -OT was connected via usb).
Then =3BI used those sa= mples to do trials while watching other tutorials.

Watch the tutorials in Elektron site :)

From: mark@markfrancombe.com
Date: Mon=2C 10 Sep= 2012 22:06:34 +0200
Subject: Re: @Anders=2C for the OT (I make it publi= c so that anybody can learn more about the OT)
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Wow that sounds harsh... theres no way to reload all the factory stuf= f?

On Mon=2C Sep 10=2C 2012 at 8:39 PM= =2C kelly maxwell <=3Bapacheci5@hotmail.com>=3B wrote:
I have had an Ot for 6 months and only had abou= t 4 hours to spend with it. I accidentally erased all of the demo sounds in= it and have had a  =3Bof a rough time loading my own sounds and using = them. I watched the tutorials by octatrack and have had little result. I am= interested in learning with u........ Kelly

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 10=2C 2= 012=2C at 5:17 AM=2C "mark francombe" <=3Bmark@markfrancombe.com>=3B wrote:

I'll just pipe in here Sergio=2C I went thru al= l these...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfICr_n5NgnI&=3Blist=3DUUL0xWyrKvKkZkv= XesqHLcow&=3Bfeature=3Dplcp

...at the weekend=2C and it was probably usefull IF I HAD an OT sat the= re in front of me=2C which I dont!

Im very much interested in joinin= g you as one of the OT owners here=2C but have to sell stuff first and even= then need to see if its really what I need. I want it PARTLY for the loopi= ng=2C but I do have 3 other loopers already. Im not looking for a replaceme= nt=2C but very interested in the triggering and morphin of params... IN COM= BINATION with drum-machine style pre-prep stuff. If I can program some midi= for external gear=2C even better... but its alot about HOW I can control t= his=2C and can I cut n paste between projects or spin things in=2C in synch= =2C on the fly WITHOUT pre-prep. I THINK so=2C using the audio pool=2C with= good foldering of samples it LOOKS like one can do everything without stop= ping the machine. (The main issue I have with Electribe actually.. that one= cant record audio to a sample without stopping the drum-machine)

Love to hear how you get on... we expect a daily report here=2C with sa= mples !!!

=3B-)

Mark

On = Mon=2C Sep 10=2C 2012 at 12:48 PM=2C Sergio G <=3Bsimpliflying@gmail.com>=3B wrote:
Hello Anders!

I have three questions for you! :)

1) do = you know if there are trusty=2C reliable video =3Btutorial =3Babout= the OT=2C starting from ZERO (for who just opened the package)=2C and with= the new OS?
In Synthopia I saw a video which drove me CRAZY till I realized "damn= =2C wait=2C maybe it was made with an old OS". It was IMPOSSIBLE to reprodu= ce what he was doing... :) And it was indeed made with the first OS!

2) I see that the quick live usability could be a probl= em with all those =3Bmenus =3Band combinations of buttons. I wonder= if it would not be possible to automatize some commands with a midi (foot = or hand) controller=2C so that I can just push one button and the OT would = execute a sequence of command without me having to open thousand menus.

3) Suppose that I have 4= tracks with 4 different samples=2C not too long=2C but not just one note. = Something like "du-bi-da-bi-di-bu-pi-ram-pam-ta-ta-ta"=2C just to say.
I want to be able to press the button corresponding to that track=2C a= nd have the track playing only till I hold down the button. But I cannot. I= f I press one track button it will play till its end.
I want to be able to play with the tracks very quickly= =2C deciding how long must play each one. =3B
But even if I use the mute function=2C = then when I unmute it will not start from the beginning=2C and I want to st= art from the beginning!
Is it possible?

Thanks!
From: anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: OT arrived!!!
Date: Mon=2C 3 Sep 2012 21:40:32 +0000
good news... hope you will enjoy it :-)

From: simpliflying@gmail.com
To: <= a href=3D"mailto:loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com">loopers-delight@loope= rs-delight.com
Subject: OT arrived!!!
Date: Mon=2C 3 Sep 2012 13:15:34 +0000

HEY Delightful brothers!

It is here.
Arrived. = Still packed=2C I am at work in this moment so I cannot open it but tonight= is the night with my new baby=2C and love will flow!
Now Anders= =2C you are not alone anymore.
I mean that I will ask you lot of things=2C ahahah!
:)
=

=



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www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/



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Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
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= --_c3f2d7aa-32f3-4abe-9b24-bc48b25e4e75_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 11 01:13:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9740F18345C; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 01:13:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_a8dbcc15-c1d8-49b6-bb6b-3db9997cc541_" X-Originating-IP: [92.224.173.83] From: Sergio G Sender: To: Subject: RE: @Anders, for the OT (I make it public so that anybody can learn more about the OT) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 01:13:25 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Sep 2012 01:13:26.0578 (UTC) FILETIME=[A56E7120:01CD8FBA] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118253 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 01:13:27 +0000 (UTC) --_a8dbcc15-c1d8-49b6-bb6b-3db9997cc541_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks! I had seen the tutorials by Elektron but they miss lot of stuff. Anyway=2C = luckily I have found others today.We'll see :9 If you have some midi controller (hand or foot) and you want to give it a t= ry=2C let us know.The faderfox LV2 does not work "as it is" (no plug and pl= ay). I will write to Faderfox to see if they have an idea.I do not have oth= er controllers.I will probably buy a midi foot controller sooner or later= =2C very probably the fcb1010=2C and try it out. In any case I need it for = the Ableton.In elektron site I have been suggested the minicommand (apparen= tly works very good with elektron things) and the bitstream. Nice trick=2C thanks!And I have another trick to give in change! Something = I just discovered "by mistake" :)select a track=2C press function plus play= back. Press yes. Than press cue+yes (or function+yes. I use cue+yes because= so the preview of the sound is not sent to the main output). Now press twi= ce exit. Not press the trig key relative to that track. You will see=2C tha= t it will play only till you hold it down.I think it is a bug=2C because it= is not written anyway=2C and it is a bit uncomfortable to get (also=2C sup= posing that you have the cue outputs connected to the speakers=2C then by p= ressing cue+yes you will ear the preview of that sample=2C which may be ver= y disturbing if you have other things going on).But it is a NICE trick. Jus= t discovered by chance and said "WTF! Destiny is incredible=2C I wanted thi= s=2C and I found out by chance a bug which does it??? UNBELIEVABLE!".But th= ere is more! Fill the 8 tracks with samples=2C flex machine. Do this trick = for some of them=2C let say 123 and 4. Leave the 5678 normal (=3Dthat if yo= u press them they will play till the end and eventually repeat forever=2C i= f the loop mode is active).THen do your trick with function+up-arrow and ch= oose slots. Now you will see=2C if you select one of the track buttons near= the display=2C from 1 to 4=2C then your keys will play in hold mode. From = 5 to 8 they will play in normal mode.You can even let one play in normal mo= de=2C then select a track from 1 to 4 and play with the other tracks. Nice=2C isn't it? :) From: anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: @Anders=2C for the OT (I make it public so that anybody can le= arn more about the OT) Date: Mon=2C 10 Sep 2012 20:59:37 +0000 See answers below=2C or attempts to anser =3B) From: simpliflying@gmail.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: @Anders=2C for the OT (I make it public so that anybody can learn = more about the OT) Date: Mon=2C 10 Sep 2012 10:48:55 +0000 Hello Anders! I have three questions for you! :) 1) do you know if there are trusty=2C reliable video tutorial about the OT= =2C starting from ZERO (for who just opened the package)=2C and with the ne= w OS?In Synthopia I saw a video which drove me CRAZY till I realized "damn= =2C wait=2C maybe it was made with an old OS". It was IMPOSSIBLE to reprodu= ce what he was doing... :) And it was indeed made with the first OS!ANDERS>= Probably the tutorials from Elektron are the most reliable=2C. even if the= y are rather basic.. there are some other good ones but start with elektron= s.. 2) I see that the quick live usability could be a problem with all those me= nus and combinations of buttons. I wonder if it would not be possible to au= tomatize some commands with a midi (foot or hand) controller=2C so that I c= an just push one button and the OT would execute a sequence of command with= out me having to open thousand menus.ANDERS > Yes that should be possible..= i haven't felt the need myself..=20 3) Suppose that I have 4 tracks with 4 different samples=2C not too long=2C= but not just one note. Something like "du-bi-da-bi-di-bu-pi-ram-pam-ta-ta-= ta"=2C just to say.I want to be able to press the button corresponding to t= hat track=2C and have the track playing only till I hold down the button. B= ut I cannot. If I press one track button it will play till its end.I want t= o be able to play with the tracks very quickly=2C deciding how long must pl= ay each one. But even if I use the mute function=2C then when I unmute it w= ill not start from the beginning=2C and I want to start from the beginning!= Is it possible?Anders> Probably not exactly as you want it.. What I think y= ou want is to be able to trigger a sample and have it sound just as long as= you hold a button... you will come close by setting the octa in "live" mod= e (press stop and play and the red led by the "rec" buttom will flash). Thi= s way you can play chromatically (the default sample for a track will be pl= ayed chromatically with the trig buttons or a keyboard.. in "live recording= mode" the things you do will be recorded to the sequencer.. so IF you don'= t want to record but just trigger make sure to have the led by "rec" OFF (i= f its flashing push "rec" until it's off.. then puch FUNCTION+UP ARROW and = chose "SLOTS" this way you can play the slots assigned to a track by pressi= ng trig buttons=2C the first trig button will play first slot=2C second the= second on so on.. this way you can "stutter" a sample by repeately pressin= g its trig button.. NOW all triggered samples will play to end or until you= trigger an other slot.. so if you have a sample is SILENCE (a short is per= haps best) you could trigger "du-bi-da-bi-di-bu-pi-ram-pam-ta-ta-ta" (say = slot 1) and make it stop by pressing the "silent" slot.. so that way you ca= n silence your sample when ever.. NOW there MIGHT be a simpler way...OOPS t= here is a simpler way just push any trig button that do not have a slot ass= igned (do not have a green led.. just tried=2C works=2C COOL) >Sorry for confusing answer... need to walk the dog.. Thanks! You are welcome From: anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: OT arrived!!! Date: Mon=2C 3 Sep 2012 21:40:32 +0000 good news... hope you will enjoy it :-) From: simpliflying@gmail.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT arrived!!! Date: Mon=2C 3 Sep 2012 13:15:34 +0000 HEY Delightful brothers! It is here.Arrived. Still packed=2C I am at work in this moment so I cannot= open it but tonight is the night with my new baby=2C and love will flow!No= w Anders=2C you are not alone anymore.I mean that I will ask you lot of thi= ngs=2C ahahah!:) = --_a8dbcc15-c1d8-49b6-bb6b-3db9997cc541_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks!

I had seen the tutorials by Elektron but they mi= ss lot of stuff. Anyway=2C luckily I have found others today.
We'= ll see :9

If you have some midi controller (hand or foot= ) and you want to give it a try=2C let us know.
The faderfox LV2 = does not work "as it is" (no plug and play). I will write to Faderfox to se= e if they have an idea.
I do not have other controllers.
I will probably buy a midi foot controller sooner or later=2C very probab= ly the fcb1010=2C and try it out. In any case I need it for the Ableton.
In elektron site I have been suggested the minicommand (apparently = works very good with elektron things) and the bitstream.

Nice trick=2C thanks!
And I have another trick to give in = change! Something I just discovered "by mistake" :)
select a trac= k=2C press function plus playback. Press yes. Than press cue+yes (or functi= on+yes. I use cue+yes because so the preview of the sound is not sent to th= e main output). Now press twice exit. Not press the trig key relative to th= at track. You will see=2C that it will play only till you hold it down.
I think it is a bug=2C because it is not written anyway=2C and it is= a bit uncomfortable to get (also=2C supposing that you have the cue output= s connected to the speakers=2C then by pressing cue+yes you will ear the pr= eview of that sample=2C which may be very disturbing if you have other thin= gs going on).
But it is a NICE trick. Just discovered by chance a= nd said "WTF! Destiny is incredible=2C I wanted this=2C and I found out by = chance a bug which does it??? UNBELIEVABLE!".
But there is more! = Fill the 8 tracks with samples=2C flex machine. Do this trick for some of t= hem=2C let say 123 and 4. Leave the 5678 normal (=3Dthat if you press them = they will play till the end and eventually repeat forever=2C if the loop mo= de is active).
THen do your trick with function+up-arrow and choo= se slots. Now you will see=2C if you select one of the track buttons near t= he display=2C from 1 to 4=2C then your keys will play in hold mode. From 5 = to 8 they will play in normal mode.
You can even let one play in = normal mode=2C then select a track from 1 to 4 and play with the other trac= ks.

Nice=2C isn't it? =3B
:)

F= rom: anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.c= om
Subject: RE: @Anders=2C for the OT (I make it public so that anybody = can learn more about the OT)
Date: Mon=2C 10 Sep 2012 20:59:37 +0000
=

See answers below=2C or attempts to anser =3B)
From: simpliflying@gmai= l.com
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: @Anders=2C for= the OT (I make it public so that anybody can learn more about the OT)
D= ate: Mon=2C 10 Sep 2012 10:48:55 +0000

Hello Anders!

I have three questions for you! :)

1) do = you know if there are trusty=2C reliable video =3Btutorial =3Babout= the OT=2C starting from ZERO (for who just opened the package)=2C and with= the new OS?
In Synthopia I saw a video which drove me CRAZY till= I realized "damn=2C wait=2C maybe it was made with an old OS". It was IMPO= SSIBLE to reproduce what he was doing... :) And it was indeed made with the= first OS!
ANDERS>=3B Probably the =3Btutorials =3Bfrom= Elektron are the most reliable=2C. even if they are rather basic.. there a= re some other good ones but start with elektrons..

2) I see that the quick live usability could be a problem with all those&n= bsp=3Bmenus =3Band combinations of buttons. I wonder if it would not be= possible to automatize some commands with a midi (foot or hand) controller= =2C so that I can just push one button and the OT would execute a sequence = of command without me having to open thousand menus.
ANDERS >= =3B Yes that should be possible.. i haven't felt the need myself.. =3B<= /div>

3) Suppose that I h= ave 4 tracks with 4 different samples=2C not too long=2C but not just one n= ote. Something like "du-bi-da-bi-di-bu-pi-ram-pam-ta-ta-ta"=2C just to say.=
I want to be able to press the button corresponding to th= at track=2C and have the track playing only till I hold down the button. Bu= t I cannot. If I press one track button it will play till its end.
I want to be able to play with the tracks = very quickly=2C deciding how long must play each one. =3B
<= div>But even if I use the mute function=2C t= hen when I unmute it will not start from the beginning=2C and I want to sta= rt from the beginning!
Is it possible?
Anders>= =3B Probably not exactly as you want it.. What I think you want is to be ab= le to trigger a sample and have it sound just as long as you hold a button.= .. you will come close by setting the octa in "live" mode (press stop and p= lay and the red led by the "rec" buttom will flash). This way you can play = chromatically (the default sample for a track will be played =3Bchromat= ically =3Bwith the trig buttons or a keyboard.. in "live recording mode= " the things you do will be recorded to the sequencer.. so IF you don't wan= t to record but just trigger make sure to have the led by "rec" OFF (if its= flashing push "rec" until it's off.. then puch FUNCTION+UP ARROW and chose= "SLOTS" this way you can play the slots assigned to a track by =3Bpres= sing =3Btrig =3Bbuttons=2C the first trig button will play first sl= ot=2C second the second on so on.. this way you can "stutter" a sample by r= epeately pressing its trig button.. NOW all triggered samples will play to = end or until you trigger an other slot.. so if you have a sample is SILENCE= (a short is perhaps best) you could trigger  =3B"du-bi-da-bi-di-bu-pi-ram-pam-ta-ta-ta" (say slot 1) and make it s= top by pressing the "silent" slot.. so that way you can silence your sample= when ever.. NOW there MIGHT be a simpler way...OOPS there is a simpler way= just push any trig button that do not have a slot assigned (do not have a = green led.. just tried=2C works=2C COOL)

>=3BSo= rry for confusing answer... need to walk the dog..

Thanks!

You are welcome
From: anders_e_be= rgdahl@hotmail.com
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: R= E: OT arrived!!!
Date: Mon=2C 3 Sep 2012 21:40:32 +0000

good news... hope you will enjoy it :-)

From: simpliflying@gmail.comTo: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: OT arrived!!!
Date= : Mon=2C 3 Sep 2012 13:15:34 +0000

HEY Delightful brothers!

It is here.
Arrived. = Still packed=2C I am at work in this moment so I cannot open it but tonight= is the night with my new baby=2C and love will flow!
Now Anders= =2C you are not alone anymore.
I mean that I will ask you lot of = things=2C ahahah!
:)

=
= --_a8dbcc15-c1d8-49b6-bb6b-3db9997cc541_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 11 07:13:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C610B183461; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 07:13:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_41667c2d-6ccd-4197-b633-9f1b3f67ed83_" X-Originating-IP: [81.233.147.253] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: Octotrack... Still a mystery... Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 07:13:44 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Sep 2012 07:13:45.0188 (UTC) FILETIME=[FB208A40:01CD8FEC] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118254 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 07:13:46 +0000 (UTC) --_41667c2d-6ccd-4197-b633-9f1b3f67ed83_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Mark.. I live in Stockholm=2C I used to work on a Nordic basis but n= ow i almost always in Sweden. Been to Oslo a lot.. I once tried to visit al= l Irish pubs in central Oslo one evening. THat was interesting =3B) From: mark@markfrancombe.com Date: Tue=2C 11 Sep 2012 00:02:34 +0200 Subject: Re: Octotrack... Still a mystery... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com On Mon=2C Sep 10=2C 2012 at 11:45 PM=2C Anders Bergdahl wrote: > FOR ME it feels great=2C it is my instrument now=2C=20 Thats a sentance I like to hear... =20 as said i fire it up "tweak patches" wich om the octa means adjustung effec= ts=2C changing some samplles=2C most sequencing alteration is done while pl= aying..=20 Sounding even better... =20 I like the interface but there is a learing curve and if you have VERY spec= ific ideas on how you want to work the octa might not fit...=20 I can do learning curve=2C just as long as I get there in the end... but if you are willing to be inspired to do things that you maybe haven't = imagined yet the octa can be great fun and inspirational. This is why I like technology=2C to let it carve new paths for me... I LIKE= the limitations and the routes it forces you to take...=20 Don't know if I'm helping..=20 Dude.. ALOT!!! This was very useful and good stuff... Where are you living = again? Norway or Sweden... I might just wanna take a road trip... or if eve= r you are near Oslo=2C remember to pack the OT... you have free accommodati= on in exchange for a tutorial!! (godamit why aint my stuff selling???) =3B-) --=20 Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.comwww.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ = --_41667c2d-6ccd-4197-b633-9f1b3f67ed83_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks Mark.. I live in Stockholm=2C I used to work on a Nordic basis b= ut now i almost always in Sweden. Been to Oslo a lot.. I once tried to visi= t all Irish pubs in central Oslo one evening. THat was interesting =3B)
=
From: ma= rk@markfrancombe.com
Date: Tue=2C 11 Sep 2012 00:02:34 +0200
Subject:= Re: Octotrack... Still a mystery...
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight= .com



On Mon=2C Sep 10=2C 2012 = at 11:45 PM=2C Anders Bergdahl <=3Banders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com>=3B= wrote:
>=3B FOR ME it feels great=2C it is m= y instrument now=2C

Thats a sentance I l= ike to hear...
 =3B
as said i fire it up "tweak patches" wi= ch om the octa means adjustung effects=2C changing some samplles=2C most se= quencing alteration is done while playing..

Sounding even better...

I like the interface but there is a learing curve= and if you have VERY specific ideas on how you want to work the octa might= not fit...

I can do learning curve=2C just as long as I get ther= e in the end...
 =3B
but if you are willing to be inspired to do things that you may= be haven't imagined yet the octa can be great fun and inspirational.=

This is why I like technology=2C to let it carve new = paths for me... I LIKE the limitations and the routes it forces you to take= ...

Don't know if I'm helping.. =3B
=

Dude.. ALOT!!! This was very useful and good stuff... Where are yo= u living again? Norway or Sweden... I might just wanna take a road trip... = or if ever you are near Oslo=2C remember to pack the OT... you have free ac= commodation in exchange for a tutorial!!

(godamit why aint my stuff selling???)

=3B-)

=

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= --_41667c2d-6ccd-4197-b633-9f1b3f67ed83_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 11 07:37:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2369218345C; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 07:37:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=ZzcDdPxnxjItY5TvjBdkUyUIa72C7zeWRbYlIrIvJ9c=; b=KpZrrHjTLiFoW6/3eYzmnzu2nxa/f01HsKfV5e7Dd1RGU1Gd2bq7H5Qh7Ax/aGeK90 E6ImmXyh3p51A+0U+pGu3SS1sv+mNRlZfFcWV8kcnguntIDk4kkA/moVUwEy1aKbfnwE ueuDDHuUCrOtqGLOgu9Vul5ifRJya/EmF79ahpZhLNWQhDWVqKVGpGsVVC7ZDEG6Xq/B XG/af5ejshylXCynNrim0P50vTxi5E/uHcAk0G4fjYcYvWVE6qEAdmvods4yObE7gYdf 3woutAeaxnse0oM4HxQgxVJOjriGyV5ypOHtorOahoBwcJtAb5roMTsIPzezD5aKw0iT sPAw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 09:36:51 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: muzkj924YlIJlquMDO3rxRQaZsk Message-ID: Subject: Re: Octotrack... Still a mystery... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b621e126e257804c9682475 Resent-Message-ID: <3iEn8B.A.03.oouTQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118255 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 07:37:13 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b621e126e257804c9682475 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I was almost certain I was in Dubliners when you were there! On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Anders Bergdahl < anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com> wrote: > I once tried to visit all Irish pubs in central Oslo one evening. THat was > interesting ;) -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b621e126e257804c9682475 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was almost certain I was in Dubliners when you were there!

On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Anders Bergdahl <anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com> wrote:
I once tried to visit all Irish pubs in cen= tral Oslo one evening. THat was interesting ;)



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--047d7b621e126e257804c9682475-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 11 08:25:11 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A903183462; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 08:25:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_8bdee9c1-d30b-4e8f-add0-4f12eb845a0a_" X-Originating-IP: [217.92.117.212] From: Sergio G Sender: To: Subject: RE: Octotrack... Still a mystery... (Off Topic) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 08:25:09 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: , ,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Sep 2012 08:25:09.0343 (UTC) FILETIME=[F4AEB6F0:01CD8FF6] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118256 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 08:25:11 +0000 (UTC) --_8bdee9c1-d30b-4e8f-add0-4f12eb845a0a_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You guys stop it=2C I feel jealous!Or come both here in Muenster and have a= round of all the many pubs and clubs of this nice little university city f= ull of students (especially the ones with airbags and long hair).:=3D From: mark@markfrancombe.com Date: Tue=2C 11 Sep 2012 09:36:51 +0200 Subject: Re: Octotrack... Still a mystery... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com I was almost certain I was in Dubliners when you were there! On Tue=2C Sep 11=2C 2012 at 9:13 AM=2C Anders Bergdahl wrote: I once tried to visit all Irish pubs in central Oslo one evening. THat was= interesting =3B) --=20 Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.comhttp://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ = --_8bdee9c1-d30b-4e8f-add0-4f12eb845a0a_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You guys stop it=2C I feel jealous!
Or come both here in Muenster and h= ave a round of all the many pubs and clubs of this nice little university c= ity full of students (especially the ones with airbags and long hair).
:=3D

From: mark@markfrancombe.com
Date: Tue=2C 11 Sep 2012 = 09:36:51 +0200
Subject: Re: Octotrack... Still a mystery...
To: Loope= rs-Delight@loopers-delight.com

I was almost certain I was in Dubline= rs when you were there!

On Tue=2C Sep = 11=2C 2012 at 9:13 AM=2C Anders Bergdahl <=3Banders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com>= =3B wrote:
I once tried to visit all Irish pubs in central Oslo one= evening. THat was interesting =3B)



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= --_8bdee9c1-d30b-4e8f-add0-4f12eb845a0a_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 11 14:42:31 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D36D3183464; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:42:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 433 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:42:31 UTC X-Authenticated: #113868007 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18RaUZJCCoRWYXYQta1olc46kokNig4jq6Fmmk00y uvapojrEklBKB+ From: Christoph Lehmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Supatrigga plugin is causing noise Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:35:15 +0200 Message-Id: <32C8E793-FEAE-4249-AF74-DFB59D6F9818@gmx.de> To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118257 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:42:31 +0000 (UTC) Hey, I recently tried to use the supatrigga plugin, while ableton is running = as a slave synchronized to mobius. but now the plugin is causing noise. i think the problem is, that the = tempo in ableton is drifting a little bit while ableton receives mobius' = clock messages. the plugin works fine if its running to abletons internal clock. Any idea how to fix this? maybe there is a way to route the clock = messages from mobius directly to the plugin? if not, is there any similar plugin i could try? (i'm using a mac) all the best, Chris= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 11 15:01:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E08BD183463; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:01:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=JJcGmLdfgbZk1e+s8JF/eANySDcEkGfgNYrCn20VPzg=; b=Kz23p9z4qVzLysb8Yi/6SkbprZdY6Gn0FojiE2z9tnA+mVQGpfY13cPv+kTKyV2CD6 emADuXy0+EzC5Lsl68ZXzjeM1ziNsknWlU87YjQiRa7QWf7j+EFrEMvd1wFLqSjWEgAe Gfr9oFziaRVh7O7jZE8Umo7GeboQqZbpFct/IvBPpz2sdHkxk5BeiDkdBuvbju0T6KEB p0WXk5VZrWUU6Q5jdQV34tO/gcf8nMCXYpK0MJSHBlvW5sW6SwHEmHfI+1VtTcQ6IR+9 ++nyjDDtN4Joxy5UEuJ3T6+SH5uAZmErwIXwAyS8MNFSdAfbMxuvFb7nRQ1ee4akQyLJ UNTg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <32C8E793-FEAE-4249-AF74-DFB59D6F9818@gmx.de> References: <32C8E793-FEAE-4249-AF74-DFB59D6F9818@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:01:55 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Supatrigga plugin is causing noise From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <9GRAXC.A.d8F.kJ1TQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118258 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:01:56 +0000 (UTC) I would guess the problem is caused by Live's plugin latency compensation system. This only works when Live is running in sync master mode. When in slave sync mode Live can't compensate for plugin latency. Not even a machine can look into the future. We know that Supatrigga uses some random processing and if we assume that this randomization is performed in real-time inside the plugin there simply is no time buffer for Ableton Live to play it back properly when running in slave sync mode and a live audio input stream is routed through Supatrigga. Related: Another similar random processing all inside Live can be achieved by using clip launch randomization (called "Follow Action"). If this is done to a number of clips set to to Legato Mode the "playback head" will keep its musical position inside the bar even at the wildest speed jumping between clips. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Christoph Lehmann wrote: > Hey, > > I recently tried to use the supatrigga plugin, while ableton is running as a slave synchronized to mobius. > but now the plugin is causing noise. i think the problem is, that the tempo in ableton is drifting a little bit while ableton receives mobius' clock messages. > > the plugin works fine if its running to abletons internal clock. > > Any idea how to fix this? maybe there is a way to route the clock messages from mobius directly to the plugin? > if not, is there any similar plugin i could try? (i'm using a mac) > > all the best, > Chris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 11 15:04:54 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9BA1183473; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:04:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=D3AVn1UoXJ6Wc9RcOBtFHM2L2oFPRoa1QdO619N/WWo=; b=WBA5bfQ/T/3qntc+Db1D1ypJ3sLwt9jnSJg5VShjJOnlD1LLr3aSXs2woPEdgeY1lh 12wbZkFoxGLDvYahhoHAn8z9BZ7OoE97MT8nH26f39i2CWtRX5VOE6OQA2R9kqGXkBEA nWlKVEWWALeLhdlXV7IO008jVwIlYinfaN9f9KpWNAnB8PwbJ39Gj/u/Sl1796qyhoR1 YJaun5/jIiMbwF2CGtdehfLleainwghWMgoFVhH51KZgCyuM6IqZb0aBJk0VorW1ebf/ VVmaAWIYFJwQSKFz5lm4qC0lVmwJvHQI/GBSbSBDIFrtJmbcLYBx1oQ3Oj7oESkgZV77 E3+Q== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Supatrigga plugin is causing noise From: Simeon Harris In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:09:39 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <32C8E793-FEAE-4249-AF74-DFB59D6F9818@gmx.de> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118259 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:04:53 +0000 (UTC) if you can't get it to work, try livecut i use ableton in slave mode following clock from mobius and livecut = works flawlessly and it's free http://mdsp.smartelectronix.com/livecut/ On 11 Sep 2012, at 16:01, Per Boysen wrote: > I would guess the problem is caused by Live's plugin latency > compensation system. This only works when Live is running in sync > master mode. When in slave sync mode Live can't compensate for plugin > latency. >=20 > Not even a machine can look into the future. We know that Supatrigga > uses some random processing and if we assume that this randomization > is performed in real-time inside the plugin there simply is no time > buffer for Ableton Live to play it back properly when running in slave > sync mode and a live audio input stream is routed through Supatrigga. >=20 > Related: > Another similar random processing all inside Live can be achieved by > using clip launch randomization (called "Follow Action"). If this is > done to a number of clips set to to Legato Mode the "playback head" > will keep its musical position inside the bar even at the wildest > speed jumping between clips. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Christoph Lehmann = wrote: >> Hey, >>=20 >> I recently tried to use the supatrigga plugin, while ableton is = running as a slave synchronized to mobius. >> but now the plugin is causing noise. i think the problem is, that the = tempo in ableton is drifting a little bit while ableton receives mobius' = clock messages. >>=20 >> the plugin works fine if its running to abletons internal clock. >>=20 >> Any idea how to fix this? maybe there is a way to route the clock = messages from mobius directly to the plugin? >> if not, is there any similar plugin i could try? (i'm using a mac) >>=20 >> all the best, >> Chris >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 11 19:20:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A347C183464; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 19:20:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 811608.3102.bm@omp1067.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1347391245; bh=E+z5muV3oNO3qysFFf/aSTnLYkqUQWccrInWk1KxAB0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ENL3typX3gGwc/AJkQ0yqRVHMMEv0eRhaq/SNBVr8VPyQ2OVoeV0DWXoKr09ZeaZeRKLFYNILv65A10G/ndrbKRsLwT05kyssRLA1Mp+5Zuu423/kkM0TMJuxBU6v++sa4Tn5KBrVVr5O7IG6M+1cSN4kd9CRbfUisBVqnVTF4k= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OsVMARn5La1S0Fs/SNZp6DtLVW13vdwXHmjP1j1wJhzwFabAQApT629SiW1hyfhTHrC0gietbplZWKdH60Q0yKyDngAmuYH4Y+daRTjiBX/sYPF+gIT5DzUsBV0+z1Er/eswJTWp1b6oJzWftM7MGKJg2r8lkNYrevsaWGQoiT8=; X-YMail-OSG: _0KMTcoVM1mPI8VGxlNopgG3Ys1Wf1g22tIzaQdPCTj06LZ gJNyt.mEWgst4HBIBy40Ewy5DbpTuqKL31d9b52y65qD6U8RLV2hSdLLDIaE I_rDu_et2EJ4EJWP_OeDdHhpgDU.68a_bUlXG1H7mfKyn_xdlEEOfo1XpjmZ BDegduxkbwA3RxkYXzG9.b7Jf3KrPtgPaNQt5Y4yaRP7RetdiY1dhDWZYOrn 0T22PMSg__S9OAF92zGwZdy2tfHRzWeqpOjFzbRQi4DgVcBOalKrQ8xV7yvz B139SxNb8meBsiJ_lUNHbk8sI9Znxa9Zi7YTuiPNs3u3N3zec5vokd2DIt0m JPPK48QSr4CoUqJYLaTMXSnee0.3mAIjDlLFYQn0AoHho4qLrHk4.DbQsji2 HFTsCTiMLRJCL5Vvj7BJ.WN9dUWmpyhIYlX2b_WZJqfsPRsM8OVekKjsLmhm ZIrzkhxhI7.MbdNiV8I6MtvLU1aLLtozFHqEiuZ76nsIhG8WhN96FaPQ- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 References: <1035151654.1620633.1347026049351.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1347391245.51899.YahooMailNeo@web32502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:20:45 -0700 (PDT) From: bill bigrig Reply-To: bill bigrig Subject: Re: Fripp news To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <1035151654.1620633.1347026049351.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-820900331-1494330080-1347391245=:51899" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118260 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 19:20:47 +0000 (UTC) ---820900331-1494330080-1347391245=:51899 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was introduced to him in high school, (1972). A friend that played trombo= ne next to me had us all over to his house to hear, "giant bass saxes". It = was the most powerful thing I heard up to then, (normally an ELP fan). I tr= aded him the trilogy album for in the wake of posiedon. I had to tell him t= hat it was not 2 saxes, but a sax and guitar. Hearing Gregg Lake's voice wa= s a surprise, I thought ELP was his firsd band. I quickly bought the first = album, then bought later albums that to me, started to lose that original s= ound. Larks tongues brought me baak, but then faded again. Thus began my li= felong love of all things Mellotron, and the burning desire to have those s= ounds at my disposal. I was not prosperous enough to buy music gear until 1= 985. It still took me til the early 2000s to get an Akai S-5000 and the Mel= lotron archives. HEAVEN!! I also scored a Roland M-VS1, naturally, it used = a few notes thenspread them out across the keys, the A in particular had a different sound than the other notes, and was the same at every octa= ve. Still, for the price, it is fun. In1975 I got my first taste of non-top= 40 Rundgren. My life changed forever when I heard the 6 man band and the a= lbum called Todd. Rig =0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Christophe =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =0ASent: Friday, Sep= tember 7, 2012 6:54 AM=0ASubject: Re: Fripp news=0A=0A=0AI agree on both co= unts.=A0 From what I've read in the past, including a bio some years back, = he does seem to be painfully serious about himself and a little deficient i= n the humor department.=0A=0AI also seem to remember him taking a long sabb= atical (I think he called it retirement then, too) between the Lark's Tongu= es period (which is still my favorite KC era) and the Discipline era over h= is dissatisfaction with the biz.=A0 I doubt his "retirement" will last fore= ver.=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: "Art Simon" =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Friday, September = 7, 2012 1:44:10 AM=0ASubject: Re: Fripp news=0A=0AI love, adore, the music = of Robert Fripp. But I'm getting the=0Aimpression he's a bit prickly. ---820900331-1494330080-1347391245=:51899 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was introduced to him in high school, (1972). A friend that played trombo= ne next to me had us all over to his house to hear, "giant bass saxes&= quot;. It was the most powerful thing I heard up to then, (normally an ELP = fan). I traded him the trilogy album for in the wake of posiedon. I had to = tell him that it was not 2 saxes, but a sax and guitar. Hearing Gregg Lake&= #39;s voice was a surprise, I thought ELP was his firsd band. I quickly bou= ght the first album, then bought later albums that to me, started to lose t= hat original sound. Larks tongues brought me baak, but then faded again. Th= us began my lifelong love of all things Mellotron, and the burning desire t= o have those sounds at my disposal. I was not prosperous enough to buy musi= c gear until 1985. It still took me til the early 2000s to get an Akai S-50= 00 and the Mellotron archives. HEAVEN!! I also scored a Roland M-VS1, natur= ally, it used a few notes thenspread them out across the keys, the A in particular had a different sound than the other notes, and was the same= at every octave. Still, for the price, it is fun. In1975 I got my first ta= ste of non-top 40 Rundgren. My life changed forever when I heard the 6 man = band and the album called Todd.=0D
Rig
<= div dir=3D"ltr" >
From: Christophe <cburke55@com= cast.net>
To: Loope= rs-Delight@loopers-delight.com
S= ent: Friday, September 7, 2012 6:54 AM
Subject: Re: Fripp news

= =0A
I agree on both counts.  From what I've r= ead in the past, including a bio some years back, he does seem to be painfu= lly serious about himself and a little deficient in the humor department.
I also seem to remember him taking a long sabbatical (I think he call= ed it retirement then, too) between the Lark's Tongues period (which is= still my favorite KC era) and the Discipline era over his dissatisfaction = with the biz.  I doubt his "retirement" will last forever.
From: "Art Simon" <= simart@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
<= b>Sent: Friday, September 7, 2012 1:44:10 AM
Subject: Re: Fri= pp news

I love, adore, the music of Robert Fripp. But I'm gettin= g the
impression he's a bit prickly.




---820900331-1494330080-1347391245=:51899-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 11 19:51:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5BBE5183465; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 19:51:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=m+nFpSueBeG1OqXcyRsS2KlekvrnWvapAwPHgPVGRG0=; b=p99xbtGxcvEzoSo49o6rhGbInezwVCQka9myUdquJaItYwMPoBLSmoEJrKACz+OnF2 j4k4xas7wic4wAtjjRe8J+gD6XDo70qB+vXmOTnpWObG7Cx43LnYTJyJW4+JIjtjBvJ4 b898vkEca/7UrdH6js/qCPBVJ2rUobGqfj/kLh5gcnjjSOWNQeUY17PQHjiUtWkW5VR1 p3HDFnm6vtaRj7KDDd0GjRDojuH+P4z9tzh9L6M0eaPlQa9MTrfPWDY0J0WyOrbmeS+k cOH3HNjZPKvrBebPkZmihGw60/T1UO5A1iijlkpqMzyudTNFuzl9RXEkJDz0xUXYfkc3 ukCg== Message-ID: <504F9646.8050704@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 21:51:34 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Supatrigga plugin is causing noise References: <32C8E793-FEAE-4249-AF74-DFB59D6F9818@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <32C8E793-FEAE-4249-AF74-DFB59D6F9818@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118261 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 19:51:35 +0000 (UTC) Christoph Lehmann schrieb: > Hey, > > I recently tried to use the supatrigga plugin, while ableton is running as a slave synchronized to mobius. > but now the plugin is causing noise. i think the problem is, that the tempo in ableton is drifting a little bit while ableton receives mobius' clock messages. > What do you mean by "noise"? And why do you believe that this has to do with Live drifting? My own experiences with heavy use of Supatrigga date back a little, and the heavy use was in a setting where Möbius was slaved to Live (apart from that, similar approach to yours)... Some things I noticed: * Back in the days, when I completely stressed out the performance of my then-laptop, I would optimize my system so it didn't generate short spikes of CPU load, mainly by choosing plugins accordingly. One of the things I remember is that in the Live-synced-to-Möbius scenario, you require considerable "CPU headroom" (meaning you can only run at a constant load around 50% or something, don't remember the exact figures) - otherwise sometimes odd things would happen. * Livecut is also a great tool, but I don't know if it does not show the problem you noticed. * The host tempo of Live changing while Supatrigga has something in its buffer could account for what you experience as well, depending on what you mean by "noise" (hence my initial question). * The plugin latency compensation could be at fault, but I don't believe this to be the case. Generally, I tend to turn that off (both for audio and MIDI) when doing realtime/live stuff. A suggestion: "Strip down" your setup in Live, e.g. limit it to one track with Möbius and Supatrigga, and have Möbius only run one loop. Make sure this results in very low average CPU load (which should be the case, unless your computer is from the last millenium). Then test again if the noise happens. If you find a setting where it starts to work: A problem with hitting CPU redline. If not: some other problem... Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 11 20:40:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 865B7183466; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:40:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=uz7J3lkX0rmDE3NqZUVvxkitMHHCIfqKXJKRbFseiWc=; b=CraD5eYtA19xH6Y1WZxfGG1XaTAZ6tx0gXJP4vD9TsMKpi/gbc7r2M4uVala4BXj+W cCSHYFjDmOB5BFKIAXm9s9ZJR+GlfFbugnDiL/XvxwKtlZ2+Lv62wgdDkkm2Gm9cgekv RbXDIBr/AHqORBdyDwHzmyD+V4rr3kU3jtQqjoZ9tIzAugUgJbArEayE5gWivz9Z1O2f QMU5PexCBLzFji3tycy9etaYcSw+UZO8wlt2dkYcauYUvHGvOoVaj1vsb4bWuKkp3aMm UDAz+nTHd4D6VrP8AeN+W6KKtihVAGEQW1nv3vPqyUrC6R4tTOZWEm2+CCLQgAGl3q2+ ezWg== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Best battery powered looping pedal? From: Christopher Darrow In-Reply-To: <504C7984.2060202@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:40:34 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <971B2B71-DAF3-47B5-BAC8-01172C9AAD6A@gmail.com> <504C7984.2060202@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118262 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:40:38 +0000 (UTC) A Vox Delaylab it is!=20 I'm looking on Ebay for one right now.=20 THANK YOU.=20 On Sep 9, 2012, at 4:12 AM, andy butler wrote: > hi Chris, >=20 > the Line 6 DL4 is a popular choice. >=20 > ..and check out the=20 > Vox Delay Lab >=20 > http://www.voxamps.com/uk/support/manuals/#delaylab >=20 > which is more or less a souped up DL4. >=20 > plus.......FEEDBACK!! >=20 > minus......Half Speed :-( >=20 >=20 > andy >=20 >=20 > Christopher Darrow wrote: >> Hi. I'm wondering if anyone has a particular opinion on the best = battery powered looping pedal.=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 11 20:53:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63489183465; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:53:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 488 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:53:44 UTC Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:45:36 +0000 (UTC) From: Christophe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <1407968831.1813041.1347396336761.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <1347391245.51899.YahooMailNeo@web32502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Fripp news MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1813040_75136588.1347396336752" X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:146.243.4.157] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Resent-Message-ID: <8roS4D.A.nkB.YT6TQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118263 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:53:44 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_1813040_75136588.1347396336752 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ah, the Mellotron! It became the love of my life too, also having been intr= oduced to it by Court of the Crimson King and at about the same time by the= Moody Blues. It just has a sound like nothing else. Captain Beefheart (als= o a fan) described it as having , "a merthiolate sound", and that really do= es describe it - strangely astringent. I was a bass and guitar player with = seriously limited keyboard skills and a budget that didn't come anywhere ne= ar affording one so I just settled for listening until softsynths came alon= g, when I picked up a program called M-Tron which is a great Mellotron emul= ation that I've had tons of fun with. Unfortunately though, last winter I w= ound up with a new PC with Windows 7 64 bit and I wasn't able to get M-Tron= to successfully install on it, though I should really go on the web again = and see if there's some kind of work around. Failing that, though, there is= a new and improved version, and at this point I might just spring for it.= =20 ----- Original Message ----- From: "bill bigrig" =20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 3:20:45 PM=20 Subject: Re: Fripp news=20 I was introduced to him in high school, (1972). A friend that played trombo= ne next to me had us all over to his house to hear, "giant bass saxes". It = was the most powerful thing I heard up to then, (normally an ELP fan). I tr= aded him the trilogy album for in the wake of posiedon. I had to tell him t= hat it was not 2 saxes, but a sax and guitar. Hearing Gregg Lake's voice wa= s a surprise, I thought ELP was his firsd band. I quickly bought the first = album, then bought later albums that to me, started to lose that original s= ound. Larks tongues brought me baak, but then faded again. Thus began my li= felong love of all things Mellotron, and the burning desire to have those s= ounds at my disposal. I was not prosperous enough to buy music gear until 1= 985. It still took me til the early 2000s to get an Akai S-5000 and the Mel= lotron archives. HEAVEN!! I also scored a Roland M-VS1, naturally, it used = a few notes thenspread them out across the keys, the A in particular had a = different sound than the other notes, and was the same at every octave. Sti= ll, for the price, it is fun. In1975 I got my first taste of non-top 40 Run= dgren. My life changed forever when I heard the 6 man band and the album ca= lled Todd.=20 Rig=20 From: Christophe =20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, September 7, 2012 6:54 AM=20 Subject: Re: Fripp news=20 I agree on both counts. From what I've read in the past, including a bio so= me years back, he does seem to be painfully serious about himself and a lit= tle deficient in the humor department.=20 I also seem to remember him taking a long sabbatical (I think he called it = retirement then, too) between the Lark's Tongues period (which is still my = favorite KC era) and the Discipline era over his dissatisfaction with the b= iz. I doubt his "retirement" will last forever.=20 From: "Art Simon" =20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, September 7, 2012 1:44:10 AM=20 Subject: Re: Fripp news=20 I love, adore, the music of Robert Fripp. But I'm getting the=20 impression he's a bit prickly.=20 ------=_Part_1813040_75136588.1347396336752 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>Ah, the M= ellotron!  It became the love of my life too, also having been introdu= ced to it by Court of the Crimson King and at about the same time by the Mo= ody Blues.  It just has a sound like nothing else.  Captain Beefh= eart (also a fan) described it as having , "a merthiolate sound", and that = really does describe it - strangely astringent.  I was a bass and guit= ar player with seriously limited keyboard skills and a budget that didn't c= ome anywhere near affording one so I just settled for listening until softs= ynths came along, when I picked up a program called M-Tron which is a great= Mellotron emulation that I've had tons of fun with.  Unfortunately th= ough, last winter I wound up with a new PC with Windows 7 64 bit and I wasn= 't able to get M-Tron to successfully install on it, though I should really= go on the web again and see if there's some kind of work around.  Fai= ling that, though, there is a new and improved version, and at this point I= might just spring for it.

From: "bill bigri= g" <billbigrig@yahoo.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig= ht.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 3:20:45 PM
Subject= : Re: Fripp news

I was introduced to him in high school, (1972).= A friend that played trombone next to me had us all over to his house to h= ear, "giant bass saxes". It was the most powerful thing I heard up to then,= (normally an ELP fan). I traded him the trilogy album for in the wake of p= osiedon. I had to tell him that it was not 2 saxes, but a sax and guitar. H= earing Gregg Lake's voice was a surprise, I thought ELP was his firsd band.= I quickly bought the first album, then bought later albums that to me, sta= rted to lose that original sound. Larks tongues brought me baak, but then f= aded again. Thus began my lifelong love of all things Mellotron, and the bu= rning desire to have those sounds at my disposal. I was not prosperous enou= gh to buy music gear until 1985. It still took me til the early 2000s to ge= t an Akai S-5000 and the Mellotron archives. HEAVEN!! I also scored a Rolan= d M-VS1, naturally, it used a few notes thenspread them out across the keys= , the A in particular had a different sound than the other notes, and was the same= at every octave. Still, for the price, it is fun. In1975 I got my first ta= ste of non-top 40 Rundgren. My life changed forever when I heard the 6 man = band and the album called Todd.
Rig
From: Christophe <cburke55@comcast.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2012 6:54 AM
Subject: Re: Fripp news
=

<= div style=3D"font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;">I agree on bo= th counts.  From what I've read in the past, including a bio some year= s back, he does seem to be painfully serious about himself and a little def= icient in the humor department.

I also seem to remember him taking a= long sabbatical (I think he called it retirement then, too) between the La= rk's Tongues period (which is still my favorite KC era) and the Discipline = era over his dissatisfaction with the biz.  I doubt his "retirement" w= ill last forever.

From: "Art Si= mon" <simart@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight= .com
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2012 1:44:10 AM
Subject: Re: Fripp news

I love, adore, the music of Robert Fripp. But I'm g= etting the
impression he's a bit prickly.



------=_Part_1813040_75136588.1347396336752-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 11 21:41:32 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AC8A183475; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 21:41:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <1407968831.1813041.1347396336761.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1407968831.1813041.1347396336761.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--274700827 Message-Id: <0DA7CDA4-5163-4D12-B546-6AD2AD649DD1@ubergadget.com> From: Revfever Subject: Re: Fripp news (Mellotron) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:41:26 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host5.webserveralpha.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ubergadget.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118264 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 21:41:32 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4--274700827 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Sep 11, 2012, at 1:45 PM, Christophe wrote: > Ah, the Mellotron! ....so I just settled for listening until > softsynths came along, when I picked up a program called M-Tron > which is a great Mellotron emulation that I've had tons of fun with. Indeed! I got a copy of that program last year and it is GREAT! Offers even more than just Mellotron sounds but those Mellotron sounds themselves are GREAT! Very realistic, etc. > Unfortunately though, last winter I wound up with a new PC with > Windows 7 64 bit and I wasn't able to get M-Tron to successfully > install on it, Macs rule! (Yes, I have always used Macs and love 'em :-) ) Works great with a Mac and updates are available if you have the registration. PCs too, if you have the registration. Also, did you drag the M-Tron library folder from your desktop into the program after the disc had loaded? It's been a long time now, but I think that is what I had to do complete the process. Worth trying anyway. You won't eff anything up if there's still no sounds, but at that point you may have to just go ahead and buy the latest version that will be compatible for your PC. (or buy a Mac.....hee hee!) Cheers- Rev.Fever Portlandia http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental1 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental2 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/skult --Apple-Mail-4--274700827 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
On Sep 11, 2012, at = 1:45 PM, Christophe wrote:

Ah, = the Mellotron!  ....so I just settled for listening until = softsynths came along, when I picked up a program called M-Tron which is = a great Mellotron emulation that I've had tons of fun = with. 

Indeed!  I got = a copy of that program last year and it is GREAT!  Offers even more = than just Mellotron sounds but those Mellotron sounds themselves = are GREAT!  Very realistic, etc.

= Unfortunately though, last winter I wound up with a new PC with Windows = 7 64 bit and I wasn't able to get M-Tron to successfully install on = it, 

Macs rule! (Yes, I = have always used Macs and love 'em :-) )   Works great with a Mac = and updates are available if you have the registration. PCs too, if you = have the registration.

Also, did you drag the = M-Tron library folder from your desktop into the program after the disc = had loaded? It's been a long time now, but I think that is what I had to = do complete the process.
Worth trying anyway. You won't eff = anything up if there's still no sounds, but at that point you may have = to just go ahead and buy the latest version that will be compatible for = your PC.
(or buy a Mac.....hee = hee!)

Rev.Fever
Portlandia
From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <1407968831.1813041.1347396336761.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <1407968831.1813041.1347396336761.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Subject: Re: Fripp news Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:58:34 -0400 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0024_01CD904F.718FFB90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3555.308 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118265 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 22:58:37 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01CD904F.718FFB90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Me too, Christophe. Try Tapeworm. It=E2=80=99s available online and I = haven=E2=80=99t had a problem with it in Windows 7x64. From: Christophe=20 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 4:45 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Subject: Re: Fripp news Ah, the Mellotron! It became the love of my life too, also having been = introduced to it by Court of the Crimson King and at about the same time = by the Moody Blues. It just has a sound like nothing else. Captain = Beefheart (also a fan) described it as having , "a merthiolate sound", = and that really does describe it - strangely astringent. I was a bass = and guitar player with seriously limited keyboard skills and a budget = that didn't come anywhere near affording one so I just settled for = listening until softsynths came along, when I picked up a program called = M-Tron which is a great Mellotron emulation that I've had tons of fun = with. Unfortunately though, last winter I wound up with a new PC with = Windows 7 64 bit and I wasn't able to get M-Tron to successfully install = on it, though I should really go on the web again and see if there's = some kind of work around. Failing that, though, there is a new and = improved version, and at this point I might just spring for it. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- From: "bill bigrig" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 3:20:45 PM Subject: Re: Fripp news I was introduced to him in high school, (1972). A friend that played = trombone next to me had us all over to his house to hear, "giant bass = saxes". It was the most powerful thing I heard up to then, (normally an = ELP fan). I traded him the trilogy album for in the wake of posiedon. I = had to tell him that it was not 2 saxes, but a sax and guitar. Hearing = Gregg Lake's voice was a surprise, I thought ELP was his firsd band. I = quickly bought the first album, then bought later albums that to me, = started to lose that original sound. Larks tongues brought me baak, but = then faded again. Thus began my lifelong love of all things Mellotron, = and the burning desire to have those sounds at my disposal. I was not = prosperous enough to buy music gear until 1985. It still took me til the = early 2000s to get an Akai S-5000 and the Mellotron archives. HEAVEN!! I = also scored a Roland M-VS1, naturally, it used a few notes thenspread = them out across the keys, the A in particular had a different sound than = the other notes, and was the same at every octave. Still, for the price, = it is fun. In1975 I got my first taste of non-top 40 Rundgren. My life = changed forever when I heard the 6 man band and the album called Todd.=20 Rig=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- From: Christophe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, September 7, 2012 6:54 AM Subject: Re: Fripp news I agree on both counts. From what I've read in the past, including a = bio some years back, he does seem to be painfully serious about himself = and a little deficient in the humor department. I also seem to remember him taking a long sabbatical (I think he called = it retirement then, too) between the Lark's Tongues period (which is = still my favorite KC era) and the Discipline era over his = dissatisfaction with the biz. I doubt his "retirement" will last = forever. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- From: "Art Simon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Friday, September 7, 2012 1:44:10 AM Subject: Re: Fripp news I love, adore, the music of Robert Fripp. But I'm getting the impression he's a bit prickly. ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01CD904F.718FFB90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Me too, Christophe.  Try Tapeworm.  It=E2=80=99s = available online and I=20 haven=E2=80=99t had a problem with it in Windows 7x64.
 
From: Christophe
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: Fripp news
 
Ah, = the=20 Mellotron!  It became the love of my life too, also having been = introduced=20 to it by Court of the Crimson King and at about the same time by the = Moody=20 Blues.  It just has a sound like nothing else.  Captain = Beefheart=20 (also a fan) described it as having , "a merthiolate sound", and that = really=20 does describe it - strangely astringent.  I was a bass and guitar = player=20 with seriously limited keyboard skills and a budget that didn't come = anywhere=20 near affording one so I just settled for listening until softsynths came = along,=20 when I picked up a program called M-Tron which is a great Mellotron = emulation=20 that I've had tons of fun with.  Unfortunately though, last winter = I wound=20 up with a new PC with Windows 7 64 bit and I wasn't able to get M-Tron = to=20 successfully install on it, though I should really go on the web again = and see=20 if there's some kind of work around.  Failing that, though, there = is a new=20 and improved version, and at this point I might just spring for = it.

From: "bill bigrig" <billbigrig@yahoo.com>
To:=20 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Tuesday, = September 11,=20 2012 3:20:45 PM
Subject: Re: Fripp news

I was = introduced to him=20 in high school, (1972). A friend that played trombone next to me had us = all over=20 to his house to hear, "giant bass saxes". It was the most powerful thing = I heard=20 up to then, (normally an ELP fan). I traded him the trilogy album for in = the=20 wake of posiedon. I had to tell him that it was not 2 saxes, but a sax = and=20 guitar. Hearing Gregg Lake's voice was a surprise, I thought ELP was his = firsd=20 band. I quickly bought the first album, then bought later albums that to = me,=20 started to lose that original sound. Larks tongues brought me baak, but = then=20 faded again. Thus began my lifelong love of all things Mellotron, and = the=20 burning desire to have those sounds at my disposal. I was not prosperous = enough=20 to buy music gear until 1985. It still took me til the early 2000s to = get an=20 Akai S-5000 and the Mellotron archives. HEAVEN!! I also scored a Roland = M-VS1,=20 naturally, it used a few notes thenspread them out across the keys, the = A in=20 particular had a different sound than the other notes, and was the same = at every=20 octave. Still, for the price, it is fun. In1975 I got my first taste of = non-top=20 40 Rundgren. My life changed forever when I heard the 6 man band and the = album=20 called Todd.
Rig
From: Christophe=20 <cburke55@comcast.net>
To:=20 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2012 = 6:54=20 AM
Subject: Re: Fripp = news
 
I = agree on both=20 counts.  From what I've read in the past, including a bio some = years back,=20 he does seem to be painfully serious about himself and a little = deficient in the=20 humor department.

I also seem to remember him taking a long = sabbatical (I=20 think he called it retirement then, too) between the Lark's Tongues = period=20 (which is still my favorite KC era) and the Discipline era over his=20 dissatisfaction with the biz.  I doubt his "retirement" will last=20 forever.

From: "Art Simon" <simart@gmail.com>
To:=20 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Friday, = September 7,=20 2012 1:44:10 AM
Subject: Re: Fripp news

I love, adore, = the=20 music of Robert Fripp. But I'm getting the
impression he's a bit=20 prickly.




------=_NextPart_000_0024_01CD904F.718FFB90-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 11 23:32:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D14F183473; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 23:32:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 488 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 23:32:16 UTC Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 23:24:08 +0000 (UTC) From: Christophe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <913088217.1819459.1347405848325.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <33E21C7CF6764EE2B7C0A504B6DEE6EF@SgtephPC> Subject: Re: Fripp news MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1819458_2050475007.1347405848324" X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:71.232.101.166] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118266 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 23:32:16 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_1819458_2050475007.1347405848324 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you, Stephen, I'll give it a whirl!=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Goodman" =20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 6:58:34 PM=20 Subject: Re: Fripp news=20 Me too, Christophe. Try Tapeworm. It=E2=80=99s available online and I haven= =E2=80=99t had a problem with it in Windows 7x64.=20 From: Christophe=20 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 4:45 PM=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Subject: Re: Fripp news=20 Ah, the Mellotron! It became the love of my life too, also having been intr= oduced to it by Court of the Crimson King and at about the same time by the= Moody Blues. It just has a sound like nothing else. Captain Beefheart (als= o a fan) described it as having , "a merthiolate sound", and that really do= es describe it - strangely astringent. I was a bass and guitar player with = seriously limited keyboard skills and a budget that didn't come anywhere ne= ar affording one so I just settled for listening until softsynths came alon= g, when I picked up a program called M-Tron which is a great Mellotron emul= ation that I've had tons of fun with. Unfortunately though, last winter I w= ound up with a new PC with Windows 7 64 bit and I wasn't able to get M-Tron= to successfully install on it, though I should really go on the web again = and see if there's some kind of work around. Failing that, though, there is= a new and improved version, and at this point I might just spring for it.= =20 ----- Original Message ----- ------=_Part_1819458_2050475007.1347405848324 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>Thank you= , Stephen, I'll give it a whirl!

From: "Step= hen Goodman" <spgoodman@earthlight.net>
To: Loopers-Delight= @loopers-delight.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 6:58:34 PM=
Subject: Re: Fripp news

Me too, Christophe.  Try Tapeworm.  It=E2=80=99s available o= nline and I=20 haven=E2=80=99t had a problem with it in Windows 7x64.
 
From: Christophe =
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: Fripp news
 
Ah, the= =20 Mellotron!  It became the love of my life too, also having been introd= uced=20 to it by Court of the Crimson King and at about the same time by the Moody= =20 Blues.  It just has a sound like nothing else.  Captain Beefheart= =20 (also a fan) described it as having , "a merthiolate sound", and that reall= y=20 does describe it - strangely astringent.  I was a bass and guitar play= er=20 with seriously limited keyboard skills and a budget that didn't come anywhe= re=20 near affording one so I just settled for listening until softsynths came al= ong,=20 when I picked up a program called M-Tron which is a great Mellotron emulati= on=20 that I've had tons of fun with.  Unfortunately though, last winter I w= ound=20 up with a new PC with Windows 7 64 bit and I wasn't able to get M-Tron to= =20 successfully install on it, though I should really go on the web again and = see=20 if there's some kind of work around.  Failing that, though, there is a= new=20 and improved version, and at this point I might just spring for it.


------=_Part_1819458_2050475007.1347405848324-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 11 23:50:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A5E9C183464; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 23:50:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 23:50:46 +0000 (UTC) From: Christophe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <249158265.1820673.1347407446038.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <0DA7CDA4-5163-4D12-B546-6AD2AD649DD1@ubergadget.com> Subject: Re: Fripp news (Mellotron) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1820672_1484237563.1347407446037" X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:71.232.101.166] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118267 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 23:50:46 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_1820672_1484237563.1347407446037 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Rev! I haven't looked in depth yet, but there's at least one solution apart from the one Stephen suggested using an app called jbridge. In truth, though, I'm running the original M -Tron, not the newer M -Tron Pro, so it might be worth it to upgrade, though the original is already all I could ask for from a virtual Mellotron. There's a 64 bit version on the way, they say, which would make life easier. No Mac in my future, I'm afraid. I actually find Windows 7 to be a pretty friendly environment. Any issues I've had have really only been when working with elderly programs that just don't like 64 bit. And Cheers to You! Chris B in Boston ----- Original Message ----- From: "Revfever" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 5:41:26 PM Subject: Re: Fripp news (Mellotron) On Sep 11, 2012, at 1:45 PM, Christophe wrote: Ah, the Mellotron! ....so I just settled for listening until softsynths came along, when I picked up a program called M-Tron which is a great Mellotron emulation that I've had tons of fun with. Indeed! I got a copy of that program last year and it is GREAT! Offers even more than just Mellotron sounds but those Mellotron sounds themselves are GREAT! Very realistic, etc.
Unfortunately though, last winter I wound up with a new PC with Windows 7 64 bit and I wasn't able to get M-Tron to successfully install on it,
Macs rule! (Yes, I have always used Macs and love 'em :-) ) Works great with a Mac and updates are available if you have the registration. PCs too, if you have the registration. Also, did you drag the M-Tron library folder from your desktop into the program after the disc had loaded? It's been a long time now, but I think that is what I had to do complete the process. Worth trying anyway. You won't eff anything up if there's still no sounds, but at that point you may have to just go ahead and buy the latest version that will be compatible for your PC. (or buy a Mac.....hee hee!) Cheers- Rev.Fever Portlandia http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental1 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/elemental2 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/skult ------=_Part_1820672_1484237563.1347407446037 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>Hey Rev!<= br>
I haven't looked in depth yet, but there's at least one solution apa= rt from the one Stephen suggested using an app called jbridge.

In tr= uth, though, I'm running the original M -Tron, not the newer M -Tron Pro, s= o it might be worth it to upgrade, though the original is already all I cou= ld ask for from a virtual Mellotron.  There's a 64 bit version on the = way, they say, which would make life easier.

No Mac in my future, I'= m afraid.  I actually find Windows 7 to be a pretty friendly environme= nt.  Any issues I've had have really only been when working with elder= ly programs that just don't like 64 bit.

And Cheers to You!
Chris= B in Boston

From: "Revfever" <revfever@u= bergadget.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
S= ent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 5:41:26 PM
Subject: Re: Frip= p news (Mellotron)

On Sep 11, 2012, at 1:45 PM, Christophe= wrote:

Ah, the Mellotron!  ....so I just settled for listening un= til softsynths came along, when I picked up a program called M-Tron which i= s a great Mellotron emulation that I've had tons of fun with. 

Indeed!  I got a copy of that program= last year and it is GREAT!  Offers even more than just Mellotron soun= ds but those Mellotron sounds themselves are GREAT!  Very realist= ic, etc.

Unfortunately t= hough, last winter I wound up with a new PC with Windows 7 64 bit and I was= n't able to get M-Tron to successfully install on it, 

Macs rule! (Yes, I have always used Macs and l= ove 'em :-) )   Works great with a Mac and updates are available if yo= u have the registration. PCs too, if you have the registration.
<= br>
Also, did you drag the M-Tron library folder from your deskto= p into the program after the disc had loaded? It's been a long time now, bu= t I think that is what I had to do complete the process.
Worth tr= ying anyway. You won't eff anything up if there's still no sounds, but at t= hat point you may have to just go ahead and buy the latest version that wil= l be compatible for your PC.
(or buy a Mac.....hee hee!)

------=_Part_1820672_1484237563.1347407446037-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 12 00:38:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 024D0183474; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 00:38:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_aa8ec877-a45e-4ad1-a30f-d2af49ca7033_" X-Originating-IP: [92.224.172.206] From: Sergio G Sender: To: Subject: RE: Best battery powered looping pedal? Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 00:38:46 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <971B2B71-DAF3-47B5-BAC8-01172C9AAD6A@gmail.com> <504C7984.2060202@tiscali.co.uk>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Sep 2012 00:38:47.0581 (UTC) FILETIME=[F8AA6CD0:01CD907E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118268 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 00:38:48 +0000 (UTC) --_aa8ec877-a45e-4ad1-a30f-d2af49ca7033_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes=2C it looks nice.And even better considering how it is furnished with d= elays.But I suppose I can't plug a Mic in it=2C right?One day I would proba= bly like to buy a battery powered looper to perform in the streets and make= some money=2C but I work with my voice=2C no guitar. Can this DelayLab ser= ve? What about the Boss ones? As I work with vocals I was thinking about the VE= one=2C or the TC Helicon Live. Ser > Subject: Re: Best battery powered looping pedal? > From: thedarrow@gmail.com > Date: Tue=2C 11 Sep 2012 13:40:34 -0700 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 >=20 > A Vox Delaylab it is!=20 >=20 > I'm looking on Ebay for one right now.=20 >=20 > THANK YOU.=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Sep 9=2C 2012=2C at 4:12 AM=2C andy butler wrote: >=20 > > hi Chris=2C > >=20 > > the Line 6 DL4 is a popular choice. > >=20 > > ..and check out the=20 > > Vox Delay Lab > >=20 > > http://www.voxamps.com/uk/support/manuals/#delaylab > >=20 > > which is more or less a souped up DL4. > >=20 > > plus.......FEEDBACK!! > >=20 > > minus......Half Speed :-( > >=20 > >=20 > > andy > >=20 > >=20 > > Christopher Darrow wrote: > >> Hi. I'm wondering if anyone has a particular opinion on the best batte= ry powered looping pedal.=20 > >=20 >=20 = --_aa8ec877-a45e-4ad1-a30f-d2af49ca7033_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes=2C it looks nice.
And even better considering how it is furnished w= ith delays.
But I suppose I can't plug a Mic in it=2C right?
One day I would probably like to buy a battery powered looper to perf= orm in the streets and make some money=2C but I work with my voice=2C no gu= itar. Can this DelayLab serve?

What about the Boss= ones? As I work with vocals I was thinking about the VE one=2C or the TC H= elicon Live.

Ser

>=3B Subject: Re: Best battery powered looping pedal?>=3B From: thedarrow@gmail.com
>=3B Date: Tue=2C 11 Sep 2012 13:40:= 34 -0700
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
&g= t=3B
>=3B A Vox Delaylab it is!
>=3B
>=3B I'm looking on = Ebay for one right now.
>=3B
>=3B THANK YOU.
>=3B
>= =3B
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B On Sep 9=2C 2012=2C at 4:12 AM=2C andy= butler wrote:
>=3B
>=3B >=3B hi Chris=2C
>=3B >=3B >=3B >=3B the Line 6 DL4 is a popular choice.
>=3B >=3B
>= =3B >=3B ..and check out the
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>=3B >=3B http://www.voxamps.com/uk/support/manuals/#delaylab<= br>>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B which is more or less a souped up DL4.>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B plus.......FEEDBACK!!
>=3B >=3B >=3B >=3B minus......Half Speed :-(
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >= =3B
>=3B >=3B andy
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B &g= t=3B Christopher Darrow wrote:
>=3B >=3B>=3B Hi. I'm wondering if = anyone has a particular opinion on the best battery powered looping pedal. =
>=3B >=3B
>=3B
= --_aa8ec877-a45e-4ad1-a30f-d2af49ca7033_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 12 06:17:58 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A9AF183473; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 06:17:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: <1407968831.1813041.1347396336761.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <1407968831.1813041.1347396336761.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Subject: RE: Fripp news Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 08:17:48 +0200 Message-ID: <003d01cd90ae$551dd4a0$ff597de0$@de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003E_01CD90BF.18A6A4A0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac2QXmUI0+F7femuTW2hQ7WHjVlQLQAT4v/A Content-Language: de Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118269 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 06:17:58 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01CD90BF.18A6A4A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > From what I've read in the past, including a bio some years back, he = does seem to be painfully serious about himself and a little deficient = in the humor department. everyone who knows him personally (Guitar Craft students like me) know = that this is not at all true. He can be incredibly funny, in a dry = English way of course, think: Monty Python. And he is very gentle and = loving. One of the most remarkable people I've met in my life -Michael =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01CD90BF.18A6A4A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

>  From what I've = read in the past, including a bio some years back, he does seem to be = painfully serious about himself and a little deficient in the humor = department.


everyone who knows him = personally (Guitar Craft students like me) know that this is not at all = true. He can be incredibly funny, in a dry English way of course, think: = Monty Python. And he is very gentle and loving. One of the most = remarkable people I've met in my life


-Michael

 

 

<= /div>
------=_NextPart_000_003E_01CD90BF.18A6A4A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 12 10:18:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94EA7183473; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 10:18:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <1407968831.1813041.1347396336761.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <003d01cd90ae$551dd4a0$ff597de0$@de> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Fripp news In-Reply-To: <003d01cd90ae$551dd4a0$ff597de0$@de> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Patrick Bishop X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CF5EE7218041FE_598_117E3B_webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 36962-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CF5EE7216D36C6-598-4D00B@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [99.6.110.44] Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 06:18:47 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1347445128; bh=HfMf5PToxsCmSEbU7VXiSps1X9yL0bnTP9zxTQapVSs=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hrx1E+Igo4DQz9sG5kdTLEGk9c36GB6Bj4tsYD3V5fB4SxQM9lLo4r/tRjXInbcxR m5kl4xSeR0yVBKy8P1baRkAxifh5Dr/uouo8xpoki/Z5RhZ4/lko6IjL63Kn3IkdZW wQCBzhFtihpjQZih99jO5buovg1aopmbWoVYMCsE= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:467023040:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2949505061885b6c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118270 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 10:18:52 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CF5EE7218041FE_598_117E3B_webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Fripp has a great sense of humor. You just have to understand that he has a= great sense of humor to get it. PJ -----Original Message----- From: Michael Peters To: Loopers-Delight Sent: Wed, Sep 12, 2012 2:18 am Subject: RE: Fripp news > From what I've read in the past, including a bio some years back, he doe= s seem to be painfully serious about himself and a little deficient in the = humor department. everyone who knows him personally (Guitar Craft students like me) know that= this is not at all true. He can be incredibly funny, in a dry English way = of course, think: Monty Python. And he is very gentle and loving. One of th= e most remarkable people I've met in my life -Michael =20 =20 =20 ----------MB_8CF5EE7218041FE_598_117E3B_webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Fripp has a great sense of humor. You just have to underst= and that he has a great sense of humor to get it.

PJ


>  From what I've read in the past, including a b= io some years back, he does seem to be painfully serious about himself and = a little deficient in the humor department.

everyone who knows him personally (Guitar Craft students like me) know that= this is not at all true. He can be incredibly funny, in a dry English way = of course, think: Monty Python. And he is very gentle and loving. One of th= e most remarkable people I've met in my life

-Michael
 
 
----------MB_8CF5EE7218041FE_598_117E3B_webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 12 10:38:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ABF09183462; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 10:38:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=xtbjB1zTHmJsM3QZjjiD6hJuZfNyoHCwrHyDcF9SB9E=; b=lj4BKJayyiHYz3hBNcm8QESZlBN5kIgXp3gk51t3HkuYtc/3fh7HICibDfSFXtrlUC cq3uEJ0cvInzfA9xL6rrB/SZGVakUz2o6ZTkIEyNGC2nA7J+936k8Glgt4L9lFI8VDuz iix70j2Wghu1z+z5fa7OMz8+BYt9f0YVqAUtU1dw0OudLBBqnhIYhhU9j57e6XnDn4JX JJRav7WuwrOsEdKde/Jb/qg4yJIwB1Z2dZNp8rQFioQCFlj1ahcHmEYE7hEQTX6SwQUn JqOnAdGytMMeRkTRNto0PR+EFD5K9hdAJ+jOJEWkDfna0ketlWrOjCMnvJh/nR9CO6O0 elSg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1407968831.1813041.1347396336761.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1347391245.51899.YahooMailNeo@web32502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1407968831.1813041.1347396336761.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:38:39 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Fripp news From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118271 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 10:38:40 +0000 (UTC) I too am a big fan of the vintage Mellotron sound :-) Fell in love with it in the seventies when a friend, that was ten years older and working as a music teacher, owned one and used it with his symphonic/progressive rock band. Since a decade back I've kept samples of the mellotron tapes on my computer's drive to use with whatever sampler I have around. As much as I love these sounds they come out quite tricky to use in music because of the heavy stamp they carry ;-)) I mean, whenever they appear in music it just screams to the listener "someone-wanted-this-to-sound-mellotronish-for-some-reason" and quite often I'm finding that my love for this lo-fi sound isn't reason enough to glue that message onto the music. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Christophe wrote: > Ah, the Mellotron! It became the love of my life too, also having been > introduced to it by Court of the Crimson King and at about the same time by > the Moody Blues. It just has a sound like nothing else. Captain Beefheart > (also a fan) described it as having , "a merthiolate sound", and that really > does describe it - strangely astringent. I was a bass and guitar player > with seriously limited keyboard skills and a budget that didn't come > anywhere near affording one so I just settled for listening until softsynths > came along, when I picked up a program called M-Tron which is a great > Mellotron emulation that I've had tons of fun with. Unfortunately though, > last winter I wound up with a new PC with Windows 7 64 bit and I wasn't able > to get M-Tron to successfully install on it, though I should really go on > the web again and see if there's some kind of work around. Failing that, > though, there is a new and improved version, and at this point I might just > spring for it. > > ________________________________ > From: "bill bigrig" > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 3:20:45 PM > Subject: Re: Fripp news > > I was introduced to him in high school, (1972). A friend that played > trombone next to me had us all over to his house to hear, "giant bass > saxes". It was the most powerful thing I heard up to then, (normally an ELP > fan). I traded him the trilogy album for in the wake of posiedon. I had to > tell him that it was not 2 saxes, but a sax and guitar. Hearing Gregg Lake's > voice was a surprise, I thought ELP was his firsd band. I quickly bought the > first album, then bought later albums that to me, started to lose that > original sound. Larks tongues brought me baak, but then faded again. Thus > began my lifelong love of all things Mellotron, and the burning desire to > have those sounds at my disposal. I was not prosperous enough to buy music > gear until 1985. It still took me til the early 2000s to get an Akai S-5000 > and the Mellotron archives. HEAVEN!! I also scored a Roland M-VS1, > naturally, it used a few notes thenspread them out across the keys, the A in > particular had a different sound than the other notes, and was the same at > every octave. Still, for the price, it is fun. In1975 I got my first taste > of non-top 40 Rundgren. My life changed forever when I heard the 6 man band > and the album called Todd. > Rig > ________________________________ > From: Christophe > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Friday, September 7, 2012 6:54 AM > Subject: Re: Fripp news > > I agree on both counts. From what I've read in the past, including a bio > some years back, he does seem to be painfully serious about himself and a > little deficient in the humor department. > > I also seem to remember him taking a long sabbatical (I think he called it > retirement then, too) between the Lark's Tongues period (which is still my > favorite KC era) and the Discipline era over his dissatisfaction with the > biz. I doubt his "retirement" will last forever. > > ________________________________ > From: "Art Simon" > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Friday, September 7, 2012 1:44:10 AM > Subject: Re: Fripp news > > I love, adore, the music of Robert Fripp. But I'm getting the > impression he's a bit prickly. > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 12 10:53:33 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 952A4183473; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 10:53:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 41365 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 10:53:33 UTC Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 10:53:32 +0000 (UTC) From: Christophe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <252957322.1833095.1347447212688.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <003d01cd90ae$551dd4a0$ff597de0$@de> Subject: Re: Fripp news MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1833094_647386042.1347447212673" X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:71.232.101.166] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118272 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 10:53:33 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_1833094_647386042.1347447212673 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I haven't met him, so I'll certainly defer to anyone who has. I'll consider myself corrected! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Peters" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 2:17:48 AM Subject: RE: Fripp news > From what I've read in the past, including a bio some years back, he does seem to be painfully serious about himself and a little deficient in the humor department. everyone who knows him personally (Guitar Craft students like me) know that this is not at all true. He can be incredibly funny, in a dry English way of course, think: Monty Python. And he is very gentle and loving. One of the most remarkable people I've met in my life -Michael ------=_Part_1833094_647386042.1347447212673 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>I haven't= met him, so I'll certainly defer to anyone who has.  I'll consider my= self corrected!

From: "Michael Peters" <m= p@mpeters.de>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Se= nt: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 2:17:48 AM
Subject: RE: Fri= pp news

>  From what I've read in the past, including a bio some= years back, he does seem to be painfully serious about himself and a littl= e deficient in the humor department.<= /p>


everyone who knows him personally (Guitar Craft s= tudents like me) know that this is not at all true. He can be incredibly fu= nny, in a dry English way of course, think: Monty Python. And he is very ge= ntle and loving. One of the most remarkable people I've met in my life


-Michael

 

 

------=_Part_1833094_647386042.1347447212673-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 12 18:52:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7CCF0183474; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 18:52:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 802353950/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.31.116/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.31.116 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApIBAHfZUFBYbR90/2dsb2JhbAANOL52AQEBAwE4QAYLCxgJFg8JAwIBAgFFHAGIA6gklAiLFYMegx8DmyuNOg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,411,1344207600"; d="scan'208";a="802353950" Message-ID: <5050D9F4.3050706@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 19:52:36 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Best battery powered looping pedal? References: <971B2B71-DAF3-47B5-BAC8-01172C9AAD6A@gmail.com> <504C7984.2060202@tiscali.co.uk>, In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118273 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 18:52:22 +0000 (UTC) Sergio G wrote: > Yes, it looks nice. > And even better considering how it is furnished with delays. 4s, > But I suppose I can't plug a Mic in it, right? good point, that's another DL4 feature they dropped. Don't know what would happen if you plugged in one of those older "high impedance" mics. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 12 20:02:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C017183477; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 20:02:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authenticated: #113868007 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/nzo0t5uLnwix7zuHdCvM92sXoCznHm9kghT4QG7 oZC1oMKnrB+A6T Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Subject: Re: Supatrigga plugin is causing noise From: Christoph Lehmann In-Reply-To: <504F9646.8050704@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 22:02:17 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <644298E9-2237-42F1-9A0F-5E56BEBE15D0@gmx.de> References: <32C8E793-FEAE-4249-AF74-DFB59D6F9818@gmx.de> <504F9646.8050704@googlemail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118274 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 20:02:23 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for your responses! Per: I dont really understand how the "randomized clips" solution inside = ableton is supposed to work. I know how to configure the follow actions but thats all. Can you = explain it in more detail?=20 Simeon: I already have livecut in my plugin library. But have found it not very musical (compared to the supatrigga). i = wasn't able to get any good sounds out of it. I think i will give it another try.. Rainer: it sounds crackling (i don't know a better word in english, for what i = hear) In lives tempo display i can see the tempo constantly drifting a little = bit. and because supatrigga is working with the tempo it gets from the = host, it seemed obvious to me. Its definitely not a CPU problem. i already tried it with a stripped = down setup, to eliminate other error sources.= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 12 20:18:34 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8350D183477; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 20:18:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=z7gNpiqtaxZh3ETsRLi8aH7IYGflnN6dyjeFte65qzo=; b=VDjscADp3s5y125DcdYHQ3sdETRyj7dlJfoOYeFQLGXZM3/9h/QfsGUVTq5PHIQVId R9emmYdmMCPDAKKM3dqpOLQ4Lic08VTLZmkgNpoBj046oOJYAsm90JHtw6Z5X6fhhRhq yHAyQPdexKgacP06bLkpYYH1SAxTJzgvqoE99IZzlakF2MM8PFcRklU2jRZfiv34Eroa rbRx7EkthxmZihdpu9ReAXoft59VLt4GsFkHn3TuXdiFSXErP0Eop6o8VeJEMtkW0JDH I8UJsUokF7XQjccL+i+AKTY2tCrf6HwzNBCw3xTP6c8LyApCm1a8HKi5S+WnSgCZegH+ pA9A== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <644298E9-2237-42F1-9A0F-5E56BEBE15D0@gmx.de> References: <32C8E793-FEAE-4249-AF74-DFB59D6F9818@gmx.de> <504F9646.8050704@googlemail.com> <644298E9-2237-42F1-9A0F-5E56BEBE15D0@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 22:18:33 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Supatrigga plugin is causing noise From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118275 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 20:18:34 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:02 PM, Christoph Lehmann wrote: > Per: > I dont really understand how the "randomized clips" solution inside ableton is supposed to work. > I know how to configure the follow actions but thats all. Can you explain it in more detail? It's not a real-time live audio processing trick. First, you need to put many loops as clips in many slots on a session view track. Then apply set your follow actions of choice for each one of them. Even though it has to be many clips for the playback to randomly jump between all these clips can in fact be the same recording, the same audio file, the same loop. But the mega cool thing here is that you may set very different playback parameters for each copy of the loop. Try setting different pitch transposing according to different algorithms, maybe reverse a couple of them etc etc. And, as I said in the first post, if you set all clips to Legato Mode the playback jumping around will keep the relative in-bar position. Processing snippets this way is about the only thing I use Live for these days (then render a longer file that I export into some other application). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 12 21:30:57 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF32E183475; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 21:30:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-54--188937967 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Best battery powered looping pedal? Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 14:30:49 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118276 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 21:30:56 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-54--188937967 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> But I suppose I can't plug a Mic in it, right? > > good point, that's another DL4 feature they dropped. ??????? The Roland RC 30 is battery powered and has a mic input and pre/post loop effects,and two independent yet loops, a potent unit in the $300 range http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=1160 Bill --Apple-Mail-54--188937967 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
But I suppose I can't plug a Mic in it, right?

good point, that's another DL4 feature they dropped.  
 
   ???????

 The Roland RC 30 is battery powered and has a mic input and pre/post loop effects,and two independent yet  loops,  a potent unit in the $300 range
 Bill
--Apple-Mail-54--188937967-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 12 21:38:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7971C183464; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 21:38:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 21:38:07 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_b2cbb5c4-fb75-4790-a6cb-6f8518ec746c_" X-Originating-IP: [70.29.94.149] From: Jack C To: Subject: To boldy go where... lmaoo Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 21:33:06 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Sep 2012 21:33:06.0818 (UTC) FILETIME=[32AAA620:01CD912E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118277 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 21:38:08 +0000 (UTC) --_b2cbb5c4-fb75-4790-a6cb-6f8518ec746c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Date: Mon=2C 10 Sep 2012 11:32:40 +0200 > From: perboysen@gmail.com > >The new thing I had to > learn=2C that is the same that you have to do if using software today=2C > was to memorize and get experience of all possibilities so I could > internalize the complete workflow in my mind and sort of "compose" > with sound design and production work all within my imagination. > That's a powerful method to create but the big downside is that the > method never leads outside the limitations of your own "safe-zone". > WOW=2C that is insightful indeed. I've been really struggling to find a bal= ance between the right hardware and software=2C but it seems the biggest li= mitation is the safe zone. Current Setup: FL Studio M-Audio Trigger Finger Akai LPK25 I was thinking of ditching this for an Akai MPC2000XL & BOSS SP-303 combo= =2C but all that would do is alter the journey. I think the destination is = the same for the majority of the time - create a world. = --_b2cbb5c4-fb75-4790-a6cb-6f8518ec746c_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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>=3B = Date: Mon=2C 10 Sep 2012 11:32:40 +0200
>=3B From: perb= oysen@gmail.com
>=3B
>=3BThe new thing I had to
>=3B learn=2C that is the same that you have to do if using software tod= ay=2C
>=3B was to memorize and get experience of all po= ssibilities so I could
>=3B internalize the complete wo= rkflow in my mind and sort of "compose"
>=3B with sound= design and production work all within my imagination.
&g= t=3B That's a powerful method to create but the big downside is that the
>=3B method never leads outside the limitations of your = own "safe-zone".
>=3B



WOW=2C that is insightful indeed. I've been real= ly struggling to find a balance between the right hardware and software=2C = but it seems the biggest limitation is the safe zone.


Current Se= tup:

FL Studio
M-Audio Trigger Finger
Akai LPK25


I = was thinking of ditching this for an Akai MPC2000XL &=3B BOSS SP-303 com= bo=2C but all that would do is alter the journey. I think the destination i= s the same for the majority of the time - create a world.
=
= --_b2cbb5c4-fb75-4790-a6cb-6f8518ec746c_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 12 22:38:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0BEC183460; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 22:38:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=TcEBKgvdz3fYChF3Go6llDnQF5opVgt/eZauo3sgBxo=; b=jYnon3UJxYZ7rGwoWSSfX4r7PyXk54zImFS6NiibBuVu9EcwH2iQQxWM0XF8nNoTun t9sy9M+NJb33VwhGGcgjKVFdqszJ6iV3u3DfTNr1eYkRni404rvm4AOKpWk1+phNpCET Ns6XBdctqoP3hvQAyKXOM+T8yvF2pQBJOCa5Gn15rUXh0GXhW0Tl89hBUw1G1O9haq03 DiiXM2gljvF/11jOEpnqswHu1v3TuqYNpWd29+8NSbStBTz+ZyM9B2acU4lYDtTIHQRV No2OrG1yfhkC2gv7mU97m+/Y++vweH1BECTePfqhgHGPh+VSD3R24MLWIwdXO00kdjlw +mzQ== References: <971B2B71-DAF3-47B5-BAC8-01172C9AAD6A@gmail.com> <504C7984.2060202@tiscali.co.uk> <5050D9F4.3050706@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5050D9F4.3050706@tiscali.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B206) From: Christopher Darrow Subject: Re: Best battery powered looping pedal? Maybe 2 iPads instead? Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 15:38:45 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118278 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 22:38:50 +0000 (UTC) =46rom Vox Support: "The DelayLab can handle the full frequency spectrum. Th= e inputs are TS unbalanced, not TRS balanced inputs. If you plan on using an= y sort of mic with this, we recommend running it through a mixer first to br= ing it to line level, then run the line level signal through the DelayLab. "= The deal breaker for me is it's only one loop to work with. I need to be abl= e to branch off into 2 (at a minimum) or 3 (much preferred) directions, so 2= -3 loops. (Too bad because most everything else I liked about it, though I'd= prefer the mic/line thing be solved in the box as well.) I see Garage Band for iPad has a sync function for "Jam Mode" or some such b= ut it's not based on looping. Yet, maybe that's the sort of direction I shou= ld be looking: two iPads. One as sound source/mixer, one for looping. If the= y could just be synced. Maybe one can do this with one iPad, the looper "hea= ring" different sound sources but it all just seems so complicated with the b= ack and fourth and switching that I don't think I can work with it even if t= hat is so.=20 Is there a way to sync a beat that's not through garage band that would allo= w me to have the record, overdub, next loop (etc) functions execute on one "= looping iPad" to the 1 beat on the "sound source" iPad?=20 ---Christopher Darrow 503.327.9329 On Sep 12, 2012, at 11:52 AM, andy butler wrote: > Sergio G wrote: >> Yes, it looks nice. >> And even better considering how it is furnished with delays. >=20 > 4s, =20 >> But I suppose I can't plug a Mic in it, right? >=20 > good point, that's another DL4 feature they dropped. >=20 > Don't know what would happen if you plugged in one of those older "high im= pedance" mics. >=20 >=20 >=20 > andy >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 12 22:52:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50F09183463; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 22:52:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=DOPFgYDigrmr18l4XV6/dZ0rk7l3bRmKxQ+uqsTwpss=; b=sV4v3OR2aeDGA6Kn19unvZaooAMxDjJ408yMrxL5gCCg0SRRfl8xf0hRvwj44xqsas CmjVjSSgbWW2mV+EiKzHDzcCMrB5AfIZry34RhftwUw1yMWrO9uThKq4Ilm/62oGMRIN j6ObUeD8w4kWxTMTlCYvfnNudIwPieZlel1BTtdbK0HjU/14toqysHVMuYAndZjMvQcA NyTCQuO+IoAD4NGs9r4bfFrh2n+p6LmvS1nP+fFuhz40dpvcDx0Rabwuu2dWTliknKhf WqBkBPwQ+xt0GDiXY5cSZSdZWuP6DRaY0UzWhlzxw6U0On//IVK6KHKl+prBBA6XWDFT O9lQ== Subject: Re: Best battery powered looping pedal? Maybe 2 iPads instead? Echoloop for iPhone? References: <971B2B71-DAF3-47B5-BAC8-01172C9AAD6A@gmail.com> <504C7984.2060202@tiscali.co.uk> <5050D9F4.3050706@tiscali.co.uk> From: Christopher Darrow Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B206) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <86889D19-697D-4945-93EB-E83AA212ED66@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 15:52:40 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: <7aX_cB.A.hDH.8IRUQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118279 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 22:52:44 +0000 (UTC) Better yet, as I think about this, what I'd really like is Echoloop on my iP= hone because that's all the screen real-estate I'd need (especially with iPh= one 5) and just a basic audio in and out and if possible some sort of beet s= ync to an iPad (via blue tooth even?)=20 Not sure if audio into iphone works but iThink I remember those iRig sort of= solutions working for it... if not yet it will soon I'm sure.=20 Anyway, that would get me a dedicated looper and a dedicated sound source/mi= xer without buying a whole 2nd iPad.=20 Well crap, wait, there's midi into the phone as well---for the footswitch. T= his it didn't seem like was working with iPhone but I don't know why it shou= ldn't and imagine it should soon if it doesn't. That would be PERFECT!!!!!!=20 Just thinking out loud... because that's how things happen sometimes.=20 ---Christopher Darrow 503.327.9329 On Sep 12, 2012, at 3:38 PM, Christopher Darrow wrote:= > =46rom Vox Support: "The DelayLab can handle the full frequency spectrum. T= he inputs are TS unbalanced, not TRS balanced inputs. If you plan on using a= ny sort of mic with this, we recommend running it through a mixer first to b= ring it to line level, then run the line level signal through the DelayLab. "= >=20 > The deal breaker for me is it's only one loop to work with. I need to be a= ble to branch off into 2 (at a minimum) or 3 (much preferred) directions, so= 2-3 loops. (Too bad because most everything else I liked about it, though I= 'd prefer the mic/line thing be solved in the box as well.) >=20 > I see Garage Band for iPad has a sync function for "Jam Mode" or some such= but it's not based on looping. Yet, maybe that's the sort of direction I sh= ould be looking: two iPads. One as sound source/mixer, one for looping. If t= hey could just be synced. Maybe one can do this with one iPad, the looper "h= earing" different sound sources but it all just seems so complicated with th= e back and fourth and switching that I don't think I can work with it even i= f that is so.=20 >=20 > Is there a way to sync a beat that's not through garage band that would al= low me to have the record, overdub, next loop (etc) functions execute on one= "looping iPad" to the 1 beat on the "sound source" iPad?=20 >=20 >=20 > ---Christopher Darrow > 503.327.9329 >=20 > On Sep 12, 2012, at 11:52 AM, andy butler wrote: >=20 >> Sergio G wrote: >>> Yes, it looks nice. >>> And even better considering how it is furnished with delays. >>=20 >> 4s, =20 >>> But I suppose I can't plug a Mic in it, right? >>=20 >> good point, that's another DL4 feature they dropped. >>=20 >> Don't know what would happen if you plugged in one of those older "high i= mpedance" mics. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> andy >>=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 13 03:07:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4179D183463; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 03:07:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_43e221ac-8f65-4beb-a743-2d153760fef5_" X-Originating-IP: [70.29.94.149] From: Jack C To: Subject: RE: Repetition Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 03:07:18 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Sep 2012 03:07:18.0949 (UTC) FILETIME=[E2AB0550:01CD915C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118280 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 03:07:20 +0000 (UTC) --_43e221ac-8f65-4beb-a743-2d153760fef5_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [Excerpt from]=20 Interview with William Basinski at Urban Explorers 2009 "...So you have this looping sound that creates this bubble of amniocentesi= s=2C and then the point is to try to lose track of time=2C to just let go o= f whatever your head is in and fall in=2C and you know=2C the piece goes fo= r 50 minutes and you may not realize its been 5=2C so thats an ideal situat= ion..." This has been a guiding light for my looping these days. Allowing accidents= to remain=2C even if we have the technology to undo them=2C is what makes = a loop beautiful=2C I think. Keeping the clicks=2C pops=2C and sometimes=2C even off key notes - to hav= e all that looped up tells a more interesting and special story than sittin= g there for an hour trying to get the loop to sound a certain way. = --_43e221ac-8f65-4beb-a743-2d153760fef5_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
[Excerpt from]

Interview with William Basinski at Urban Explorers 2= 009

"...So you have this looping sound that creates this bubble of a= mniocentesis=2C and then the point is to try to lose track of time=2C to ju= st let go of whatever your head is in and fall in=2C and you know=2C the pi= ece goes for 50 minutes and you may not realize its been 5=2C so thats an i= deal situation..."


This has been a guiding light for my looping = these days. Allowing accidents to remain=2C even if we have the technology = to undo them=2C is what makes a loop beautiful=2C I think.

Keeping t= he clicks=2C pops=2C and sometimes=2C even off key notes - =3B to have = all that looped up tells a more interesting and special story than sitting = there for an hour trying to get the loop to sound a certain way.
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= --_43e221ac-8f65-4beb-a743-2d153760fef5_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 13 08:51:58 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6466618345C; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 08:51:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=Yz6/JguGXMLTMmFNOddtfDI3ZXH0bgfir8u6PsFNCTk=; b=PBL6FR+p4glu+3OC8A8LQgSVt9L4XGF2hdl4jpCfy8BEX3ebhjecDL9ZrVZO2QQcKb Inxora0rIfRMtc2/cfYXRS5ZBnpI1SLUxBCyYxPvAbbXMvxzMSmjMCHZFjrYQUDI9cUi Fds7X/U+jxMYPJHYc8lSBKLaFmJdVSO/ompihNjbTkWhTYo8XQWZ0cY6xGbmmWUck0Ca rJokOf4tjX+58VT2O90yHiNNjOlKW5YPd204h3mkeXqqTp5l+E4MF6C3KTFn04oQY3pX AQyXfJiKMCUZKW7OSpGvyIAAkV9w2FwAHRf+Bq6JYMgb7HPvvPhQWXr370uMuyW6SoD0 AQhA== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Supatrigga plugin is causing noise From: Simeon Harris In-Reply-To: <644298E9-2237-42F1-9A0F-5E56BEBE15D0@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 09:56:47 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <32C8E793-FEAE-4249-AF74-DFB59D6F9818@gmx.de> <504F9646.8050704@googlemail.com> <644298E9-2237-42F1-9A0F-5E56BEBE15D0@gmx.de> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118281 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 08:51:58 +0000 (UTC) christophe - which version of Live are you using? the latest version has = much better midi sync also - how are you syncing Live to mobius? On 12 Sep 2012, at 21:02, Christoph Lehmann wrote: > Thanks for your responses! >=20 > Per: > I dont really understand how the "randomized clips" solution inside = ableton is supposed to work. > I know how to configure the follow actions but thats all. Can you = explain it in more detail?=20 >=20 > Simeon: > I already have livecut in my plugin library. > But have found it not very musical (compared to the supatrigga). i = wasn't able to get any good sounds out of it. > I think i will give it another try.. >=20 > Rainer: > it sounds crackling (i don't know a better word in english, for what i = hear) > In lives tempo display i can see the tempo constantly drifting a = little bit. and because supatrigga is working with the tempo it gets = from the host, it seemed obvious to me. >=20 > Its definitely not a CPU problem. i already tried it with a stripped = down setup, to eliminate other error sources. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 13 14:48:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F96E183461; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:48:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 10:49:04 -0400 From: Douglas Baldwin Subject: Further Fripp Reading To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <0384F8047B424636A521ABD7F526B47C@Bedroom> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_4sasw7b2RJsx2i1LyA42Zg)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120913-0, 09/13/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118282 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:48:28 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_4sasw7b2RJsx2i1LyA42Zg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT For those of you interested in Robert Fripp's struggle with that tumor identified as the music industry: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/f588e100-d7ee-11e1-9980-00144feabdc0.html#axzz22Vv0pfQM In his online diary (http://www.dgmlive.com/diaries.htm?entry=22327 ) he writes: "Resolution of any problem requires decision-making from the floor above where the dispute is taking place. For example: a dispute among apprentices needs input from the Craftsperson; a dispute among Craftspersons needs input from the Master / Mystere; a dispute among Masters requires input from the Genius, the primary Creative Mover in the particular field of endeavor. Something like, a Meta Solution is needed from the Person in contact with the largest Present Moment of the process under consideration." Classic Frippish structure, a Systematics-derived tetrad, which reminds me strongly of Godel's incompleteness theorum. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del%27s_incompleteness_theorem Douglas Baldwin Alpha Coyote coyotelk@optonline.net www.TheCoyote.org www.facebook.com/people/Douglas-Baldwin "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid. -- Frank Zappa --Boundary_(ID_4sasw7b2RJsx2i1LyA42Zg) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
For those of you interested in Robert Fripp's struggle with that tumor identified as the music industry:
 
In his online diary (http://www.dgmlive.com/diaries.htm?entry=22327 ) he writes:
 
"Resolution of any problem requires decision-making from the floor above where the dispute is taking place. For example:
 
a dispute among apprentices needs input from the Craftsperson;
a dispute among Craftspersons needs input from the Master / Mystere;
a dispute among Masters requires input from the Genius, the primary Creative Mover in the particular field of endeavor.

Something like, a Meta Solution is needed from the Person in contact with the largest Present Moment of the process under consideration."
 
Classic Frippish structure, a Systematics-derived  tetrad, which reminds me strongly of Godel's incompleteness theorum.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del%27s_incompleteness_theorem
 
 
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid.
-- Frank Zappa

 
--Boundary_(ID_4sasw7b2RJsx2i1LyA42Zg)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 13 14:52:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2BC1F183462; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:52:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 10:53:15 -0400 From: Douglas Baldwin Subject: Live looping on Long Island, New York To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <19E73E68C80341628DBD2EF2F768E01A@Bedroom> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_DUWxwovjPXX97Mh3bG2evA)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120913-0, 09/13/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118283 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:52:45 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_DUWxwovjPXX97Mh3bG2evA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Is there anyone here who lives on Long Island? I will be doing a set of live looping at the Port Jefferson Music Festival on Sunday, September 30th at noon. Even if you can't make it, give me a shout back. Douglas Baldwin Alpha Coyote coyotelk@optonline.net www.TheCoyote.org www.facebook.com/people/Douglas-Baldwin "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid. -- Frank Zappa --Boundary_(ID_DUWxwovjPXX97Mh3bG2evA) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Is there anyone here who lives on Long Island?
 
I will be doing a set of live looping at the Port Jefferson Music Festival on Sunday, September 30th at noon.
Even if you can't make it, give me a shout back.
 
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid.
-- Frank Zappa
--Boundary_(ID_DUWxwovjPXX97Mh3bG2evA)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 13 15:03:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0CFBA183462; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:03:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <19E73E68C80341628DBD2EF2F768E01A@Bedroom> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Live looping on Long Island, New York In-Reply-To: <19E73E68C80341628DBD2EF2F768E01A@Bedroom> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Harry Weinberg X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CF5FD80F63C29B_EF0_14D2E6_webmail-m014.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 36962-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CF5FD80F50B793-EF0-5B74A@webmail-m014.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [96.224.251.42] Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 11:03:26 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1347548607; bh=slNFpZjULKB22nLF3DwJDWXhwrRM5QdB+wIpT1bPIU8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Krkf5XDcrM2h2rlOlTLw5wtyJOMOkHeEf3hIqkTWUdCapFfXfT5DObbPqC+8v6oc+ HbWB4ajKtwX8gOwiboIY5MWztXApSfMIeN/Qpf93aOb8uIj1ttVXm1v3m6o/dGgkah EvVbQAmyJMY6ATzmPSj9kh5+ziDlokUhizEX5J34= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:463532384:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290d5051f5be43d9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118284 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:03:34 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CF5FD80F63C29B_EF0_14D2E6_webmail-m014.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Woodmere. I would like to make it out to see your set. I'm playing this S= aturday evening at a place called The Spectrum on Ludlow Street. Music sta= rts at 8pm. A fellow named Scott RIfkin - The Exploration Project - has a = Facebook page which provides time, place, etc. If you can't find it and mi= ght want to come, let me know and I will email you the info. Regards, Harry Harry Weinberg, Esq. Realty Advisory Board On Labor Relations, Inc. 292 Madison Avenue - 16th Floor New York, N.Y. 10017 (212) 889-4100 (212) 889-4105 (F) (917) 687-6019 (C) -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Baldwin To: Loopers-Delight Sent: Thu, Sep 13, 2012 10:52 am Subject: Live looping on Long Island, New York Is there anyone here who lives on Long Island? =20 I will be doing a set of live looping at the Port Jefferson Music Festival = on Sunday, September 30th at noon. Even if you can't make it, give me a shout back.=20 Douglas Baldwin Alpha Coyote coyotelk@optonline.net www.TheCoyote.org www.facebook.com/people/Douglas-Baldwin =20 "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production de= adlines or dates by which bills must be paid.=20 -- Frank Zappa=20 =20 ----------MB_8CF5FD80F63C29B_EF0_14D2E6_webmail-m014.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Woodmere.  I would like to make it out to see your set.=   I'm playing this Saturday evening at a place called The Spectrum on = Ludlow Street.  Music starts at 8pm.  A fellow named Scott RIfkin= - The Exploration Project - has a Facebook page which provides time, = place, etc.  If you can't find it and might want to come, let me know = and I will email you the info.
 
Regards,
 
Harry
Harry Weinberg, Esq.
Realty Advisory Board On Labor Relations, Inc.
292 Madison Avenue - 16th Floor
New York, N.Y. 10017
(212) 889-4100
(212) 889-4105 (F)
(917) 687-6019 (C)
-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Baldwin <coyotelk@optonline.net>
To: Loopers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Thu, Sep 13, 2012 10:52 am
Subject: Live looping on Long Island, New York

Is there anyone here who lives on Long Island?
 
I will be doing a set of live looping at the Port Jefferson Music Fest= ival=20 on Sunday, September 30th at noon.
Even if you can't make it, give me a shout back.
 
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring producti= on=20 deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid.
-- Frank Zappa=20
----------MB_8CF5FD80F63C29B_EF0_14D2E6_webmail-m014.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 13 15:14:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36B8118345D; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:14:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 11:15:26 -0400 From: Douglas Baldwin Subject: Re: Live looping on Long Island, New York To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <3F1B26D95497463D8DF5F677C0BD79F2@Bedroom> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_tPRqzYLhm35D5+NAd56D+A)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120913-0, 09/13/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean References: <19E73E68C80341628DBD2EF2F768E01A@Bedroom> <8CF5FD80F50B793-EF0-5B74A@webmail-m014.sysops.aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: <474C4C.A.MvG.lhfUQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118285 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:14:45 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_tPRqzYLhm35D5+NAd56D+A) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thanks Harry! I believe you and I may have touched base a few years back. Then I disappeared from the Greater Loop for a bit. I'm out in the middle of Suffolk County, so a run into NYC is an all-day event for me. The Spectrum looks like a wonderful venue. I'm putting it in my notes as a place to play. Do you know of any locations on Long Island where looping/electronica/ even EDM is performed? dB, coyote ----- Original Message ----- From: Harry Weinberg To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 11:03 AM Subject: Re: Live looping on Long Island, New York Woodmere. I would like to make it out to see your set. I'm playing this Saturday evening at a place called The Spectrum on Ludlow Street. Music starts at 8pm. A fellow named Scott RIfkin - The Exploration Project - has a Facebook page which provides time, place, etc. If you can't find it and might want to come, let me know and I will email you the info. Regards, Harry Harry Weinberg, Esq. Realty Advisory Board On Labor Relations, Inc. 292 Madison Avenue - 16th Floor New York, N.Y. 10017 (212) 889-4100 (212) 889-4105 (F) (917) 687-6019 (C) -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Baldwin To: Loopers-Delight Sent: Thu, Sep 13, 2012 10:52 am Subject: Live looping on Long Island, New York Is there anyone here who lives on Long Island? I will be doing a set of live looping at the Port Jefferson Music Festival on Sunday, September 30th at noon. Even if you can't make it, give me a shout back. Douglas Baldwin Alpha Coyote coyotelk@optonline.net www.TheCoyote.org www.facebook.com/people/Douglas-Baldwin "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid. -- Frank Zappa --Boundary_(ID_tPRqzYLhm35D5+NAd56D+A) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Thanks Harry! I believe you and I may have touched base a few years back. Then I  disappeared from the Greater Loop for a bit.
I'm out in the middle of Suffolk County, so a run into NYC is an all-day event for me. The Spectrum looks like a wonderful venue. I'm putting it in my notes as a place to play.
 
Do you know of any locations on Long Island where looping/electronica/ even EDM is performed?
 
dB, coyote 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: Live looping on Long Island, New York

Woodmere.  I would like to make it out to see your set.  I'm playing this Saturday evening at a place called The Spectrum on Ludlow Street.  Music starts at 8pm.  A fellow named Scott RIfkin - The Exploration Project - has a Facebook page which provides time, place, etc.  If you can't find it and might want to come, let me know and I will email you the info.
 
Regards,
 
Harry
Harry Weinberg, Esq.
Realty Advisory Board On Labor Relations, Inc.
292 Madison Avenue - 16th Floor
New York, N.Y. 10017
(212) 889-4100
(212) 889-4105 (F)
(917) 687-6019 (C)
-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Baldwin <coyotelk@optonline.net>
To: Loopers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Thu, Sep 13, 2012 10:52 am
Subject: Live looping on Long Island, New York

Is there anyone here who lives on Long Island?
 
I will be doing a set of live looping at the Port Jefferson Music Festival on Sunday, September 30th at noon.
Even if you can't make it, give me a shout back.
 
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid.
-- Frank Zappa
--Boundary_(ID_tPRqzYLhm35D5+NAd56D+A)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 13 15:37:33 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A10C5183462; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:37:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:37:32 +0000 (UTC) From: Christophe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <1954652715.1900762.1347550651357.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <0384F8047B424636A521ABD7F526B47C@Bedroom> Subject: Re: Further Fripp Reading MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1900761_1195277895.1347550651313" X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:170.63.96.108] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118286 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:37:33 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_1900761_1195277895.1347550651313 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sure enough. The Gurdjieff - Ouspensky - Bennett influence is a common feature in Fripp's writing and speaking. ----- Original Message ----- >Classic Frippish structure, a Systematics-derived tetrad, which reminds me strongly of Godel's incompleteness theorum. < ------=_Part_1900761_1195277895.1347550651313 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Sure enough.  The Gurdjieff - Ouspensky - Bennett influence is a common feature in Fripp's writing and speaking.

 
>Classic Frippish structure, a Systematics-derived  tetrad, which reminds me strongly of Godel's incompleteness theorum. <

 


 
------=_Part_1900761_1195277895.1347550651313-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 13 15:39:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2BB77183464; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:39:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:39:37 +0000 (UTC) From: Christophe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <1901660211.1900890.1347550777737.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <19E73E68C80341628DBD2EF2F768E01A@Bedroom> Subject: Re: Live looping on Long Island, New York MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1900889_1073918857.1347550777737" X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:170.63.96.108] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118287 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:39:37 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_1900889_1073918857.1347550777737 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I grew up in Hicksville. :-) Won't be able to make it to the show, but break a leg! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Baldwin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:53:15 AM Subject: Live looping on Long Island, New York Is there anyone here who lives on Long Island? I will be doing a set of live looping at the Port Jefferson Music Festival on Sunday, September 30th at noon. Even if you can't make it, give me a shout back. Douglas Baldwin Alpha Coyote coyotelk@optonline.net www.TheCoyote.org www.facebook.com/people/Douglas-Baldwin "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid. -- Frank Zappa ------=_Part_1900889_1073918857.1347550777737 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I grew up in Hicksville. :-)  Won't be able to make it to the show, but break a leg!

From: "Douglas Baldwin" <coyotelk@optonline.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:53:15 AM
Subject: Live looping on Long Island, New York

Is there anyone here who lives on Long Island?
 
I will be doing a set of live looping at the Port Jefferson Music Festival on Sunday, September 30th at noon.
Even if you can't make it, give me a shout back.
 
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid.
-- Frank Zappa
------=_Part_1900889_1073918857.1347550777737-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 13 15:39:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B38A183473; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:39:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <19E73E68C80341628DBD2EF2F768E01A@Bedroom> <8CF5FD80F50B793-EF0-5B74A@webmail-m014.sysops.aol.com> <3F1B26D95497463D8DF5F677C0BD79F2@Bedroom> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Live looping on Long Island, New York In-Reply-To: <3F1B26D95497463D8DF5F677C0BD79F2@Bedroom> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Harry Weinberg X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CF5FDD1A73572E_EF0_14E541_webmail-m014.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 36962-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CF5FDD1A604C26-EF0-5BBE7@webmail-m014.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [96.224.251.42] Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 11:39:32 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1347550772; bh=D4WQleIYlQV9Vyake95oBjZW33NcVsIYDmH7QDWHJdk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OFPk6fU95OSqIU2o4m7hJMTgMyBpbT0k60+YovCSUarwx/oRcXy3dWBsxz0D0v93P SSf+/Ncl4OJjFe+rnkJhd0x9kbfJC+5OIfactpWJtIzbEHM5N/rEMUGRm7HoEoDx/Q 42QQpz9ogInyhLGEZS8LMzEtbIP1mVltq4Dy1Z9w= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:516634848:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29485051fe34214a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118288 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:39:51 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CF5FDD1A73572E_EF0_14E541_webmail-m014.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Doug - I think you're right about us touching base awhile ago .... Looki= ng forward to finally catching up. My buddy Chris Peters (theremin, keyboa= rds and gadgets) has some good spots. I will ask him for a list of suggest= ions and forward to you. I'm putting your Sept 30 gig on my calendar, but = any reminder you can send to me as we get close will help. I hope to have = video/audio recording of Saturday night's gig and will forward to you if I = can. If it helps re: Sat, Chris and I will be driving in from my house (Wo= odmere) and will be driving back here after the gig. I know mid-Suffolk is= a long drive. I just did a Manhattan to Holtsville round trip the other d= ay! =20 Harry Harry Weinberg, Esq. Realty Advisory Board On Labor Relations, Inc. 292 Madison Avenue - 16th Floor New York, N.Y. 10017 (212) 889-4100 (212) 889-4105 (F) (917) 687-6019 (C) -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Baldwin To: Loopers-Delight Sent: Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:14 am Subject: Re: Live looping on Long Island, New York Thanks Harry! I believe you and I may have touched base a few years back. T= hen I disappeared from the Greater Loop for a bit. I'm out in the middle of Suffolk County, so a run into NYC is an all-day ev= ent for me. The Spectrum looks like a wonderful venue. I'm putting it in my= notes as a place to play. =20 Do you know of any locations on Long Island where looping/electronica/ even= EDM is performed? =20 dB, coyote=20 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 =20 From: Harry Weinberg =20 =20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =20 =20 Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 11:03 AM =20 Subject: Re: Live looping on Long Island, New York =20 =20 Woodmere. I would like to make it out to see your set. I'm playing this= Saturday evening at a place called The Spectrum on Ludlow Street. Music= starts at 8pm. A fellow named Scott RIfkin - The Exploration Project - = has a Facebook page which provides time, place, etc. If you can't find i= t and might want to come, let me know and I will email you the info. =20 =20 =20 Regards, =20 =20 =20 Harry =20 =20 Harry Weinberg, Esq. Realty Advisory Board On Labor Relations, Inc. =20 292 Madison Avenue - 16th Floor New York, N.Y. 10017 =20 (212) 889-4100 =20 (212) 889-4105 (F) =20 (917) 687-6019 (C) =20 =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Baldwin To: Loopers-Delight Sent: Thu, Sep 13, 2012 10:52 am Subject: Live looping on Long Island, New York =20 =20 Is there anyone here who lives on Long Island? =20 =20 =20 I will be doing a set of live looping at the Port Jefferson Music Festiva= l on Sunday, September 30th at noon. =20 Even if you can't make it, give me a shout back.=20 =20 Douglas Baldwin Alpha Coyote coyotelk@optonline.net www.TheCoyote.org www.facebook.com/people/Douglas-Baldwin =20 =20 =20 "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production = deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid.=20 -- Frank Zappa =20 =20 ----------MB_8CF5FDD1A73572E_EF0_14E541_webmail-m014.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Hi Doug - I think you're right about us touching base a= while ago .... Looking forward to finally catching up.  My buddy Chris= Peters (theremin, keyboards and gadgets) has some good spots.  I will= ask him for a list of suggestions and forward to you.  I'm putting yo= ur Sept 30 gig on my calendar, but any reminder you can send to me as we ge= t close will help.  I hope to have video/audio recording of Saturday n= ight's gig and will forward to you if I can.  If it helps re: Sat, Chr= is and I will be driving in from my house (Woodmere) and will be driving ba= ck here after the gig.  I know mid-Suffolk is a long drive.  I ju= st did a Manhattan to Holtsville round trip the other day! 
 
Harry
Harry Weinberg, Esq.
Realty Advisory Board On Labor Relations, Inc.
292 Madison Avenue - 16th Floor
New York, N.Y. 10017
(212) 889-4100
(212) 889-4105 (F)
(917) 687-6019 (C)
-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Baldwin <coyotelk@optonline.net>
To: Loopers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Thu, Sep 13, 2012 11:14 am
Subject: Re: Live looping on Long Island, New York

Thanks Harry! I believe you and I may have touched base a few years ba= ck.=20 Then I  disappeared from the Greater Loop for a bit.
I'm out in the middle of Suffolk County, so a run into NYC is an all-d= ay=20 event for me. The Spectrum looks like a wonderful venue. I'm putting it in = my=20 notes as a place to play.
 
Do you know of any locations on Long Island where looping/electronica/= even=20 EDM is performed?
 
dB, coyote 
=20
----- Original Message -----
=20
From:= =20 Harry Wein= berg=20
=20 =20
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 11:03=20 AM
=20
Subject: Re: Live looping on Long Island,=20 New York
=20

=20
Woodmere.  I would like to make it=20 out to see your set.  I'm playing this Saturday evening at a place c= alled=20 The Spectrum on Ludlow Street.  Music starts at 8pm.  A fellow = named=20 Scott RIfkin - The Exploration Project - has a Facebook page which= =20 provides time, place, etc.  If you can't find it and might want to c= ome,=20 let me know and I will email you the info.
=20
 
=20
Regards,
=20
 
=20
Harry
=20
=20
Harry Weinberg, Esq.
Realty Advisory Board On=20 Labor Relations, Inc.=20 =20
292 Madison Avenue - 16th Floor
New York, N.Y. 10017
=20
(212) 889-4100
=20
(212) 889-4105 (F)
=20
(917) 687-6019 (C)
=20
=20
=20
-----Original=20 Message-----
From: Douglas Baldwin <coyotel= k@optonline.net>
To:=20 Loopers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Thu, Sep=20 13, 2012 10:52 am
Subject: Live looping on Long Island, New York

=20
=20
Is there anyone here who lives on Long Island?
=20
 
=20
I will be doing a set of live looping at the Port Jefferson Music=20 Festival on Sunday, September 30th at noon.
=20
Even if you can't make it, give me a shout back.
=20 =20
 
=20
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring producti= on=20 deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid.
-- Frank Zappa=20
----------MB_8CF5FDD1A73572E_EF0_14E541_webmail-m014.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 13 16:53:18 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 58FBE18345E; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 16:53:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type :x-priority:x-msmail-priority:importance:x-mailer:x-mimeole; bh=ICBxAwm3G3bxA1vThcTdB2Qg9dUbS9yUTE+hprl3H+A=; b=eROqgTuhrYUyADhwspixnISXlZIlJnAHhBCW9cNK2ZwZPzZlrwi4PI45+NnlOqewep 9g1elXX8CgYfbINmxn0MPqd694xEW/bndg661O5b86lZkeenCPdenWm6o981W4foDTvY ABNMpc2NS7aNnrYOpY6EMtLxgSE7ZV1fMg2gkoX2gANkF8piyOxv7kmBN/qfPqwlTtcl Yk+wampGJMD5fC6dnRQqGLsp3IeirccJlsRbPeoDjry0UWqiHAlE8hjLH2GJezXMoZBc cSASzdf540DCcOdPbwE7Wq2o2FdnkEMxkb1AIBW/2byPBATDyJ4RSLSX6NDo2kTZ4/g3 jW+Q== Message-ID: <20619CD3C7284B3683035777A428F069@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Kris Hartung" To: Subject: Jack Straw Studios for the Sonarchy Radio series - Seattle Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 10:53:09 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008F_01CD919D.F6786230" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3555.308 Resent-Message-ID: <7giihC.A._5H.-9gUQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118289 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 16:53:18 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008F_01CD919D.F6786230 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I=E2=80=99m playing a gig in Seattle this Saturday evening for Jack = Straw Studios and his Sonarchy Radio series. It's a non-profit (in the truest sense of the word...no dough for the = musicians!) organization and the radio show focuses on creative = improvised music. It looks the whole production is done "live" in the = studio (straight through, one-hour, no stopping) and then = broadcast/Podcast at a later date. =20 Anyway, it=E2=80=99s me on guitar and laptop/looping, Brent Jensen on = sax, and Jared Hallock on drums. There is a grand piano there too, = which I will be preparing and playing. I am random looping the guitar, = sax, and piano, with Max/MSP and a looper from Jeff Kaiser that I = modified.=20 On a related note, are there any loopers in Seattle on this list? I = could use a place to crash Friday and Saturday night. =20 Kris www.krispenhartung.com ------=_NextPart_000_008F_01CD919D.F6786230 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I=E2=80=99m playing a gig in Seattle this Saturday evening for = Jack Straw Studios and his Sonarchy Radio=20 series.
 
It's a non-profit (in the truest sense of the = word...no=20 dough for the musicians!) organization and the radio show focuses on = creative=20 improvised music.    It looks the whole production is = done "live"=20 in the studio (straight through, one-hour, no stopping) and then=20 broadcast/Podcast at a later date. 
 
Anyway,=20 it=E2=80=99s me on guitar and laptop/looping, Brent Jensen on sax, and = Jared Hallock on=20 drums.   There is a grand piano there too, which I will be = preparing=20 and playing. I=20 am random looping the guitar, sax, and piano, with Max/MSP and a looper = from=20 Jeff Kaiser that I modified.
 
On=20 a related note, are there any loopers in Seattle on this = list?   I=20 could use a place to crash Friday and Saturday night.  =
 
Kris
 
www.krispenhartung.com<= /DIV>
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_008F_01CD919D.F6786230-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 13 18:09:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 85841183463; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 18:09:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 811617804/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.117.18/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.117.18 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApIBAJYgUlBPRnUS/2dsb2JhbAANOL8fAQEBBDgtExELGAkWDwkDAgECAUUcAa99lASLFYMTgx8Dmy2NOw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,418,1344207600"; d="scan'208";a="811617804" Message-ID: <5052213E.4070207@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 19:09:02 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Best battery powered looping pedal? Maybe 2 iPads instead? References: <971B2B71-DAF3-47B5-BAC8-01172C9AAD6A@gmail.com> <504C7984.2060202@tiscali.co.uk> <5050D9F4.3050706@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118290 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 18:09:06 +0000 (UTC) Christopher Darrow wrote: > From Vox Support: "The DelayLab can handle the full frequency spectrum. The inputs are TS unbalanced, not TRS balanced inputs. If you plan on using any sort of mic with this, we recommend running it through a mixer first to bring it to line level, then run the line level signal through the DelayLab. " Hmm, some great pseudo-science there :-) Turns out the Vox Li'l Looper is Battery powerable, I'd forgotten that. also Accepts a microphone 2 loops andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 13 18:24:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6B83183462; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 18:24:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 802694233/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.117.18/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.117.18 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqmxAPEjUlBPRnUS/2dsb2JhbAANOIMCqnQ3AYINijoEBIQVAQgBOwdAPRYYAwIBAgFhAYVFAQEGgiMBqA83gR+BKpEBjiiDHwOReokzjTuBYg Subject: [POSSIBLE SPAM] Should I trust this guy? X-IP-Spam-Verdict: SUSPECTEDSPAM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,418,1344207600"; d="scan'208";a="802694233" Message-ID: <505224E2.6040702@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 19:24:34 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118291 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 18:24:36 +0000 (UTC) Hello Good Day, This is Mr.Ben Kane.With regards to your Company i am sending this email Regards to order some (Vortexers ) i will like to know the type and sizes you have in stock and get me the sales price of one so that i will tell you the quantity i will be ordering, and if you accept credit card as a form of payment.hope to read from you soon about my order request.... With Kind Regards, Mr.Ben Kane From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 13 18:28:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 909C0183461; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 18:28:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=TY0ZZuVvrDZKVjOzR1ifiroVBEJ8g31XJUolpvZojMY=; b=d3iz+dPrx7LOwZ0MxYUx+gz5aay3C+DQ2lNVSqqHE970eJc4oWV25DbPjeo1jDqi6S MSvPJisaVZE2GFSzFnPHUkv7k0gTOmHi+T1Lk4cFi5njyY0VhkrT7sScsqpYIbpQc1f6 hJLdnRK2ENsdHsHN021sUmgQPIEQeyKptaNuOowemYC7Xwx//rckVHRw6fya5j2Smphx jjK3+PtTp50GCSvwRKed6JUozw+i95ohXbw1x9Nxd6fXp1mGWHCZF9TzREvBfc2Je96E 4CK66SksFEj83c6TaHeafBHqyMAmr0d5w6d1V8j8zJFIEkuihnFIEqc06Kbb4WrE4xoA L2jw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <505224E2.6040702@tiscali.co.uk> References: <505224E2.6040702@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 20:28:37 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [POSSIBLE SPAM] Should I trust this guy? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118292 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 18:28:38 +0000 (UTC) Trust me instead. I can take those vortexers for free!!!! Let me vortext you the details. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 8:24 PM, andy butler wrote: > Hello Good Day, > This is Mr.Ben Kane.With regards to your Company i am sending this email > Regards to order some (Vortexers ) i will like to know the type and sizes > you have in stock and get me the sales price of one so that i will tell you > the quantity i will be ordering, and if you accept credit card as a form of > payment.hope to read from you soon about my order request.... > > With Kind Regards, > Mr.Ben Kane > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 13 18:44:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24DD8183464; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 18:44:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Jd+OpOews/rlfMtOYpYqfwEdYMXFuSAcSgJVzg9hE6M=; b=L5Dm1/YRUr4HkjZ+SD8jOUkkkeAntgzMHM4kilP0ZkZEk8IbJa9I23Csi/sd6s3UmF twTUvguBXoLNyvb0ixGpBU0YYc3QuMxvrL5dmm4eL7285nRcy3dJ4LErdw0d3aUEQ0t3 w3IlAfSVI8Y7Ct8lEw+CPyQLtdZHsEbwF59URxdOF580gHg+/rBGHGH2/UadFVHry54m u6OHdUuQqZRnveItjSW/Ex1u+zXruMuOsa+evr22Yij92/7FaEJ9r4lIxHvnf25Ih2vD A80qnAjc8XSdM5ZxG1+90BY7v1rM6NIdXutd68kppFgT8kaM5/Wk5mtCjWGV0Z70juY4 e12g== References: <505224E2.6040702@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: <505224E2.6040702@tiscali.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 20:44:42 +0200 Message-ID: <-7330811330786545280@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: [POSSIBLE SPAM] Should I trust this guy? To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118293 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 18:44:47 +0000 (UTC) I'm not sure if you can trust him, but if you like you can tell him that I have 2 Vortexers for sale, they are medium sized and of the black and red type. I will accept credit cards as payment, but only if the pin code is included. Mark Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 13 Sep 2012, at 20:24, andy butler wrote: > Hello Good Day, > This is Mr.Ben Kane.With regards to your Company i am sending this ema= il Regards to order some (Vortexers ) i will like to know the type and size= s you have in stock and get me the sales price of one so that i will tell y= ou the quantity i will be ordering, and if you accept credit card as a form= of payment.hope to read from you soon about my order request.... > > With Kind Regards, > Mr.Ben Kane > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 13 18:57:33 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A39F183465; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 18:57:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authenticated: #113868007 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+O7WF3doWOEVQ18GXXubo0TDyI27yfqP0FnhAox5 ImaGDayx1wO57a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Subject: Re: Supatrigga plugin is causing noise From: Christoph Lehmann In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 20:57:29 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <32C8E793-FEAE-4249-AF74-DFB59D6F9818@gmx.de> <504F9646.8050704@googlemail.com> <644298E9-2237-42F1-9A0F-5E56BEBE15D0@gmx.de> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118294 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 18:57:32 +0000 (UTC) all right per. understood. But this only works with prerecorded loops. = i'm searching for a solution to manipulate sounds in realtime, while = playing. Simeon: I use live 8.2.1. for synchronization i use an iac bus. apples solution for internal midi = routings. (i heard there is a similar programme for windows called = midi-yoke)= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 13 20:22:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA7F8183463; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 20:22:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <50524069.7030203@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 16:22:01 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen to Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118295 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 20:22:40 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on Manikin Records. The Featured CD at Midnight will be disk two from "First Decade 1992-2002." The Focus page is at: http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#sep Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 13 21:22:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A5C7E183463; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 21:22:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 805800472/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.117.18/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.117.18 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap8DAO5NUlBPRnUS/2dsb2JhbAANOI4FqVGICUA9FhgDAgECAWEBiBSnbJN1BIsogwCDHwObLY07 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,419,1344207600"; d="scan'208";a="805800472" Message-ID: <50524EA0.2080101@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 22:22:40 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: andy butler live in London, with Vox VDL-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118296 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 21:22:43 +0000 (UTC) I was lucky enough to be asked to attend Georgina Brett's "Tuesday Post" event, and decided to to have a go at really simplifying my rig for it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCWWg1fR8Ms All loopage using Vox VDL-1 more to follow andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 13 22:14:58 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 13475183464; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 22:14:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_27de0e3a-70aa-4dd5-9769-5927a23b5404_" X-Originating-IP: [92.228.252.88] From: Sergio G Sender: To: Subject: RE: [POSSIBLE SPAM] Should I trust this guy? Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 22:14:56 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <-7330811330786545280@unknownmsgid> References: <505224E2.6040702@tiscali.co.uk>,<-7330811330786545280@unknownmsgid> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Sep 2012 22:14:56.0260 (UTC) FILETIME=[34D2DC40:01CD91FD] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118297 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 22:14:57 +0000 (UTC) --_27de0e3a-70aa-4dd5-9769-5927a23b5404_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ?????????????http://www.usascientific.com/vortexers.aspx ?????????????Am I = missing something?Are you doctor or do you use them for some strange music?= :) > From: markfrancombe@gmail.com > Date: Thu=2C 13 Sep 2012 20:44:42 +0200 > Subject: Re: [POSSIBLE SPAM] Should I trust this guy? > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > I'm not sure if you can trust him=2C but if you like you can tell him > that I have 2 Vortexers for sale=2C they are medium sized and of the > black and red type. 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= --_27de0e3a-70aa-4dd5-9769-5927a23b5404_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 13 22:40:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E8433183464; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 22:40:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Y1GFNb50VALzDLbmFXcKX/Chfk2k8Y561VoPrTgfpCg=; b=XdSJ68PwErWbk+dV1Vx9Pz8JKD2DTzFveii88hU7dnocaRtVKRlLll/tYXIeSWed9x vZ1klJEkfOd0376XfXqy/uWZeoEDN23Kc4P0Z/PmdllhfIdo3kN/hMQ4QmQrndIeqUCS gU6RYS6giKXSgCPIVbUk/DSTdiRqfZuHcGOmSxB4zgIvXVCbxvwcPDkvXv66wBp7naN7 HUGUhsdygSASPY0rhBMu332frRWcM1JxLko9jBoK2TLY8/rnzsps9SaZ5urvM6R1clXG bpi+6H5fyVOqiv089UP+4V2DuNRqUkLtZSY2GDSBGQ+uUrUBw/sUGqtL8uIhH2qwxt0O H7mg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <50524EA0.2080101@tiscali.co.uk> References: <50524EA0.2080101@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 00:40:50 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: andy butler live in London, with Vox VDL-1 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118298 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 22:40:51 +0000 (UTC) Nice! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:22 PM, andy butler wrote: > > I was lucky enough to be asked to attend Georgina Brett's "Tuesday Post" > event, > and decided to to have a go at really simplifying my rig for it. > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCWWg1fR8Ms > > All loopage using Vox VDL-1 > > more to follow > > andy > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 14 00:49:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 95576183460; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 00:49:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <50527F1D.20006@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 20:49:33 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Listen to Galactic Travels References: <502D1568.8060406@soundscapes.us> <11063716.141399.1345143832058.JavaMail.root@m08> In-Reply-To: <11063716.141399.1345143832058.JavaMail.root@m08> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010609060900000508000908" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118299 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 00:49:38 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010609060900000508000908 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not via FM. No east coast station has THAT kind of range. ;-) But you can listen to the stream with your iPhone. Cheers, Bill On 8/16/12 2:58 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: > > Is there a way to listen to this on FM in the West Coast? > > On Aug 16, 2012 8:45 AM, "Bill Fox" > wrote: > > GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels > ======================================================================= > Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the > month-long Special Focus on The Tangent Project. The Featured CD at > Midnight will be "Live - The Gatherings 05.17.08." > > Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that > airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and > Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville > and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 > FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org on the internet. > > Note: The WDIY website has changed and the Galactic Travels portion is > gone. I am working this issue. Meanwhile, > http://galactictravels.info > doesn't work. > --------------010609060900000508000908 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Not via FM.  No east coast station has THAT kind of range.  ;-)  But you can listen to the stream with your iPhone.

Cheers,

Bill

On 8/16/12 2:58 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote:

Is there a way to listen to this on FM in the West Coast?

On Aug 16, 2012 8:45 AM, "Bill Fox" <billyfox@soundscapes.us> wrote:
GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY:     http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels
=======================================================================
Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the
month-long Special Focus on The Tangent Project.  The Featured CD at
Midnight will be "Live - The Gatherings 05.17.08."

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1
FM.  Listen at http://wdiy.org on the internet.

Note: The WDIY website has changed and the Galactic Travels portion is
gone.  I am working this issue.  Meanwhile, http://galactictravels.info
doesn't work.


--------------010609060900000508000908-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 14 00:57:39 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF8BE18345D; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 00:57:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <505280F7.5030203@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 20:57:27 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Listen to Galactic Travels References: <502D1568.8060406@soundscapes.us> <32148925.5947.1345211336192.JavaMail.root@m08> In-Reply-To: <32148925.5947.1345211336192.JavaMail.root@m08> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_2ITn.A.y0E.DEoUQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118300 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 00:57:39 +0000 (UTC) While GT is not specifically a looping venue, one of the most common techniques used in electronic music today is looping. GT exists to support electronic musicians with exposure; both a place where their music may be heard and on-line text so fans can see who is actively making music. There have been a number of this list's member who have received airplay on GT. I've been hosting GT since 1997 and have been posting on LD reminders to listen and playlists for just as long. GT is on a *REAL* FM station listeners must tune in locally or listen via the live stream at the appointed time... which is in about two hours from this writing. Cheers, Bill On 8/17/12 9:42 AM, Torben Scharling wrote: > What has this show got to do with looping, and why do we on the LD > list frequently receive a topic on the fact that there's another one > of those shows online? > > Just curious, > > /Torben Scharling > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 8:58 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: >> Is there a way to listen to this on FM in the West Coast? >> >> On Aug 16, 2012 8:45 AM, "Bill Fox" wrote: >>> GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 14 02:33:55 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 118BE183464; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 02:33:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=ejBQiCij17hBqQuc1iZGRbYJp2Ch23EWFAA0cQHVRTY=; b=CG5JR24NZqd3ZbrLEgEMQgsdfEBc0nlfBl7lq3mN7Q6c5OnDky1hSJOuhY2XGuHndC dMzavPU1hA2f7IWz+PyP4rMgaCY14IqoJewCWRPJGyCwnzCjsEGPuDwJ+hkrVRHwyG4t qK3JOqAFwKT+0FXUycz0C4lcFshb/QO/pyCqzGcBov/KUmyLBG/fKnB43zMlpfiLwKEn HCmkPwsrHGT47KuIxrpbkWUz7o/zWMnNRJlrMjOnZjRYR3pxkh3vUjviJGOpVcOFZyql X5WNdq6ih1xXrkszjae8J5tVPQ1UK+zt7GTsCtdUKu7+Dg7GiFwIbflMhN/MG1p7qzmn FUjw== From: Christopher Darrow Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--84357935 Subject: Re: Best battery powered looping pedal? Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 19:33:49 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <6065CFB4-47E2-4498-AF26-4EED5B29704E@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <3J4OHD.A.M8F.SepUQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118301 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 02:33:54 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--84357935 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I can't stand how the Roland's feel. I wish I could... easier to find = used for sure, but they just don't feel right to me.=20 After watching a few videos it looks like the Vox Li'l looper might work = though. Simple. Doesn't look like it has loop copy though. A local store = is getting it soon and has the delaylab too so I'll go check it out. Thanks for that recommendation too Andy. On Sep 12, 2012, at 2:30 PM, William Walker wrote: >>> But I suppose I can't plug a Mic in it, right? >>=20 >> good point, that's another DL4 feature they dropped. =20 > =20 > ??????? >=20 > The Roland RC 30 is battery powered and has a mic input and pre/post = loop effects,and two independent yet loops, a potent unit in the $300 = range > http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=3D1160 > Bill --Apple-Mail-2--84357935 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
But I suppose I can't plug a Mic in it, = right?

good point, that's another DL4 feature they = dropped.  
 
  =  ???????

 The Roland RC 30 is battery = powered and has a mic input and pre/post loop effects,and two = independent yet  loops,  a potent unit in the $300 = range
 Bill

= --Apple-Mail-2--84357935-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 14 09:55:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C660918345D; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 09:55:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <50524EA0.2080101@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: andy butler live in London, with Vox VDL-1 In-Reply-To: <50524EA0.2080101@tiscali.co.uk> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Patrick Bishop X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CF60763FB35FA8_85C_168E45_webmail-d094.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 36962-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CF60763FA778C3-85C-6248F@webmail-d094.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [99.6.110.44] Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 05:55:47 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1347616547; bh=ItOeGxqKNEGT6uuXsrXgG1U5uBvNaQNxBH7tx15EJGc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=p5mPZmcTP0usEzz1T0BKsNmy/y3eMgDX35vQQK2XuVrgZDiOWvkLf/irvo7pq8pue FDKeHvXW5eysOfnv5vKbGq/3WlzicyB+R3jnh/vhp6Q65HiQ/FfnaxKn8Dtb7i76te 3Med+I4Fe9/Mc9ff1caFg77ShbxOUUmJSK2C7s10= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 1:2:401906528:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 1 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cc5052ff2358ce Resent-Message-ID: <50kjyB.A.CrB.n8vUQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118302 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 09:55:51 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CF60763FB35FA8_85C_168E45_webmail-d094.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Great stuffAndy! I love the Dynamic Looper. Such a great tool for sonic man= gling as well as more straight ahead looping. The visuals were interesting,= too. PJ -----Original Message----- From: andy butler To: Loopers-Delight Sent: Thu, Sep 13, 2012 5:22 pm Subject: andy butler live in London, with Vox VDL-1 I was lucky enough to be asked to attend Georgina Brett's "Tuesday Post"=20 event, and decided to to have a go at really simplifying my rig for it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DxCWWg1fR8Ms All loopage using Vox VDL-1 more to follow andy =20 ----------MB_8CF60763FB35FA8_85C_168E45_webmail-d094.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Great stuffAndy! I love the Dynamic Looper. Such a great tool for sonic mangling = as well as more straight ahead looping. The visuals= were interesting, too.

3D":-)"PJ



I was lucky enough to be asked to attend Georgina Brett's "Tuesday Post"=20
event,
and decided to to have a go at really simplifying my rig for it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DxCWWg1fR8Ms

All loopage using Vox VDL-1

more to follow

andy
----------MB_8CF60763FB35FA8_85C_168E45_webmail-d094.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 14 10:10:58 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB9E9183463; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 10:10:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=sb/cnFz8eRCvT2uAUoa08SDfCu/sGuTXBDK5vyygNz4=; b=gttQLxLHeJiF7uhKlV3sz1xOPYnvYkor0EPLlXJge2c7cbP0UgkEpQ4fiIdGBIIwce F/auf4rrSBOag7Qg0xM8TczqcCgDegAgWfL5clwvsX+OTd/ItPAOajNj44+DRQtM4HtX UO4bSwbLCF5hhIL5Obztt1VAvpKUPxQK6Y2qzyv1iy4yQZOcYBqcRXXpRxD4aoRwmw64 4HYgFuhCirNzaqqn0w2JrzBJOIWBz/YHF62/lHKAkbG7pVlFW4r2AZUGUGLwuXaUgRDo vyzi5/wSCCmiUYmyhOyIJNJ63ApaKOg0GXibNPY58hDH4HY4SY/ut6WBPO1/ws3tC90w GyvA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CF60763FA778C3-85C-6248F@webmail-d094.sysops.aol.com> References: <50524EA0.2080101@tiscali.co.uk> <8CF60763FA778C3-85C-6248F@webmail-d094.sysops.aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 12:10:56 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: andy butler live in London, with Vox VDL-1 From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d042dffefcfa6bf04c9a6a307 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118303 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 10:10:58 +0000 (UTC) --f46d042dffefcfa6bf04c9a6a307 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Compact and powerful rig, Andy. I've enjoined your set a lot ! -f 2012/9/14 Patrick Bishop > Great stuffAndy! I love the Dynamic Looper. Such a great tool for sonic > mangling as well as more straight ahead looping. The visuals were > interesting, too. > > [image: :-)]PJ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: andy butler > To: Loopers-Delight > Sent: Thu, Sep 13, 2012 5:22 pm > Subject: andy butler live in London, with Vox VDL-1 > > > I was lucky enough to be asked to attend Georgina Brett's "Tuesday Post" > event, > and decided to to have a go at really simplifying my rig for it. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCWWg1fR8Ms > > All loopage using Vox VDL-1 > > more to follow > > andy > > > --f46d042dffefcfa6bf04c9a6a307 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Compact and powerful rig, Andy.
I've enjoined your set a lot !

-f

2012/9/14 Patrick= Bishop <pjbmhb@aol.com>
Great stuffAndy! I love the Dynamic Looper. Such a gr= eat tool for sonic mangling as well as more straight ahead looping.<= /font>=A0The visuals were= interesting, too.

3D":-)"PJ


-----Original Mes= sage-----
From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
To: Loopers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Thu, Sep 13, 2012 5:22 pm
Subject: andy butler live in London, with Vox VDL-1


I was lucky enough to be asked to attend Georgina Brett's "Tuesday=
 Post"=20
event,
and decided to to have a go at really simplifying my rig for it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DxCWWg1fR8Ms

All loopage using Vox VDL-1

more to follow

andy
=20

--f46d042dffefcfa6bf04c9a6a307-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 14 12:50:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6909D183462; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 12:50:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <50532815.4010506@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 08:50:29 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #806 for September 13, 2012. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118304 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 12:50:36 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/120913.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #806 September 13, 2012. WDIY Playlist: http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels?playlist_date=09-13-2012 RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Manikin Records. The Featured CD at Midnight was disk two from "The First Decade." Manikin Records: http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#sep I also played music by Bernhard Wostheinrich who, with Tim Motzer, will appear at the next installment of the Soundscapes Concert Series. PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) The Redundant Rocker Gold Heart (Unsung) Dan Pound Spirit Caller Return To Other Worlds (Poundsounds) Thin Air Lux Eterna Flamed Amazement (none) Northcore Looking Glass Desatero (O3E) Modulator ESP part one * The Sound of Walking Backwards Into Infinity (none) VA [Rainbow Serpent] Radiotrips First Decade disk 2 (Manikin) VA [Keller and Devil's Run First Decade disk 2 (Manikin) Schonwalder] 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [Ramp] What's the point of First Decade disk 2 (Manikin) eating concrete? VA [Steve Hug] Dances of the First Decade disk 2 (Manikin) Nymphes VA [Rolf Trostel] Kyrie 777 First Decade disk 2 (Manikin) VA [Detlef Keller] Different Faces First Decade disk 2 (Manikin) Rehearsal VA [Electric Orange] Dedicated to M.K. First Decade disk 2 (Manikin) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Manikin Records. The Featured CD at Midnight will be disk one from "Second Decade." I will also play music by one of the artists who will appear at the next installment of the Soundscapes Concert Series. WDIY Announcement: http://wdiy.org/post/next-galactic-travels-2012-09-20" Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 14 14:18:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 95200183464; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 14:18:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=Mv9Cy8NsQItTEAHnXr6fCNbI23lcrkmyMeqLv9HU3yU= c=1 sm=1 a=1It5Eppvw5MA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=UncmS/Am0Fgh8c8TZh5eWA==:17 a=FcAFIstCAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=sMqLBCgqAAAA:20 a=eXaD7cCsCboHBqU3n7cA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=NV0LgFqsyRYA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=UncmS/Am0Fgh8c8TZh5eWA==:117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: andy butler live in London, with Vox VDL-1 From: Ted Killian In-Reply-To: <8CF60763FA778C3-85C-6248F@webmail-d094.sysops.aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 07:18:13 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <02A70760-AC7D-4510-A7B0-7663EE3D8CE9@charter.net> References: <50524EA0.2080101@tiscali.co.uk> <8CF60763FA778C3-85C-6248F@webmail-d094.sysops.aol.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <3XNqGC.A.vWE.nyzUQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118305 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 14:18:15 +0000 (UTC) Ditto. On Sep 14, 2012, at 2:55 AM, Patrick Bishop wrote: > Great stuffAndy! I love the Dynamic Looper. Such a great tool for = sonic mangling as well as more straight ahead looping. The visuals were = interesting, too. >=20 > PJ >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: andy butler > To: Loopers-Delight > Sent: Thu, Sep 13, 2012 5:22 pm > Subject: andy butler live in London, with Vox VDL-1 >=20 > I was lucky enough to be asked to attend Georgina Brett's "Tuesday = Post" event, > and decided to to have a go at really simplifying my rig for it. >=20 > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DxCWWg1fR8Ms >=20 > All loopage using Vox VDL-1 >=20 > more to follow >=20 > andy >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 14 16:05:01 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C13E183463; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 16:05:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <505355A4.5010403@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 09:04:52 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Re: andy butler live in London, with Vox VDL-1 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118306 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 16:05:01 +0000 (UTC) Beautiful, Andy, I'm having a bit of insomnia and this is just the beautiful piece of music to calm my overactive mind. So nice to hear you play again. Thanks for sharing. hugs, Rick On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:22 PM, andy butler wrote: >> I was lucky enough to be asked to attend Georgina Brett's "Tuesday Post" >> event, >> and decided to to have a go at really simplifying my rig for it. >> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCWWg1fR8Ms >> >> All loopage using Vox VDL-1 >> >> more to follow >> >> andy >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 14 16:20:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A3C7183464; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 16:20:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <50535931.4070101@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 09:20:01 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Chris Vik: Looping with Kinekt/Ableton's/MAX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <47diPD.A.SkF.5k1UQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118307 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 16:20:09 +0000 (UTC) Along the lines of Tim Thompson's innovative Space Palette (Kinekt box live audio/visual triggering/playing/looping system) that he just rocked at Burning Man (and will also be using at the upcoming Burning Man Decompression party in Santa Cruz on Sept 30th), Chris Vik is rocking some cool sample and sample sequencing live looping going on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPcoM7BIDZ4&feature=related Here, his blog site describes what he's doing in more detail: http://chrisvik.wordpress.com/ From his description, his setup includes: A live performance I did on June 1st @ Microsoft's REMIX11 conference using my custom Kinect/Ableton/Max setup. I've moved on from just controlling a bassline, and now have it setup to a whole assortment of virtual instruments and loop them live to create entire tracks. Music setup: - Ableton Live - NI Massive - Max/MSP (making useful MIDI data out of the hand coordinates from OSCeleton) - Behringer FCB1010 (controlling Ableton, ie. looping, switching the Kinect's instrument etc) Kinect setup: OpenNI, PrimeSense's NITE, OSCeleton From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 14 16:47:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B362918345D; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 16:47:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Z Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_74B2284D-CE1F-40AD-B85A-659768432542" Subject: make your own tape loops from LSM Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 18:47:44 +0200 Message-Id: <6D6BBB22-3DBB-4F2C-9A7E-0769E93CFD7E@zzz.ch> To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: <5Dpj7B.A.F7F.s-1UQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118308 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 16:47:40 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_74B2284D-CE1F-40AD-B85A-659768432542 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Found this on the London Science Museum's blog, maybe some of you = already heard it, but I can't resist sharing=85 ;) z http://sciencemuseumdiscovery.com/blogs/insight/make-your-own-tape-loop/ http://zzz.ch http://loopr.net --Apple-Mail=_74B2284D-CE1F-40AD-B85A-659768432542 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 http://sciencemuseumdiscovery.com/blogs/insight/make-your-own-tape= -loop/


= --Apple-Mail=_74B2284D-CE1F-40AD-B85A-659768432542-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 14 17:38:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 581D1183464; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 17:38:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=GbzbkydinjhWuiDG+Ut3u9rrR1TAgQq5ycuvQ1lmlGY=; b=FThe3QX4/r92XeRq//eGpKhfLPHuh3DpZEM3Xr4P62MxdHn/9lOu1LTyrvzENHfugQ FCIaotDw4ZusRAK5l3pzJ3/x80QoElFa99ZncBmALCQcSc5OnUTnVO9XP0gskw7xe8Su PCbSDulbKedf7xKZxPCta7RwRnqeEyXyvqC6O2abs9yo84Y3UHKoYIFI8lVyc0R/hsRM NU87AiDzwqLD5FFZ6cyfxf/8SDOc3pTcp8tSy/7UdeZU1jw2tM8GGzFnzVI5jqpOOrwh cDorEZmun4o+BTcpsXeO18tnH+WSbgGq4SmaCdhKEfwHrfw/iIRbJXehBewqKlT59WjQ qoIQ== From: Matthias Grob Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: gigaloop Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 14:38:28 -0300 Message-Id: <5E203BB4-22C2-4DE9-9ED2-76B404869E90@gmail.com> To: Loop List Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118309 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 17:38:47 +0000 (UTC) memory has become cheap, we know but this machine still suprises me: http://skyera.com/ 44Tbyte/44kHz*2bytes = 0.5GigaSeconds so at CD quality you can record a 8year stereo loop! well, the machine probably costs 120k$ (sorry if I calculated something wrong) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 14 17:49:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 268CE183461; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 17:49:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 806089074/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.190.101/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.190.101 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnoDAARtU1BV0r5l/2dsb2JhbAANOLp8AQMBA4QlAQEBAwE4QAYLCyEWDwkDAgECAUUcAYgDqAaTdIsag0SDHwObLo07 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,423,1344207600"; d="scan'208";a="806089074" Message-ID: <50536E1F.2090704@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 18:49:19 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Best battery powered looping pedal? References: <6065CFB4-47E2-4498-AF26-4EED5B29704E@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6065CFB4-47E2-4498-AF26-4EED5B29704E@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118310 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 17:49:21 +0000 (UTC) Christopher Darrow wrote: > After watching a few videos it looks like the Vox Li'l looper might work > Doesn't look like it has loop copy though. No, it doesn't. Very basic. > Thanks for that recommendation too Andy. you're welcome hope you find something that works for you andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 14 19:48:54 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 27F52183465; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 19:48:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1591739068==" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20120914194836.1377.48453.levelstar.mail@everest> Sender: Tyler Reply-to: Tyler From: Tyler Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 15:48:36 -0400 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Subject: Songs with lyrics Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118311 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 19:48:54 +0000 (UTC) Unable to read this email, please upgrage your mail client --===============1591739068== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How=20many=20of=20you=20write=20songs=20with=20lyrics,=20with=20looped=20in= struments=20as=20your=20accompanyment?=20That's=20what=20 Imogen=20Heap=20does.=20Most=20music=20on=20this=20website=20is=20just=20in= strumental;=20I=20have=20heard=20vocal=20looping,=20 but=20most=20of=20that=20doesn't=20have=20words,=20it's=20just=20syllables= =20like=20"aa,=20daa,=20dei-o"=20and=20such.=20Are=20any=20of=20you=20like= =20 Imogen=20Heap=20in=20the=20sense=20that=20you=20write=20songs=20with=20lyri= cs,=20and=20use=20looped=20instruments=20as=20the=20 accompanyment=20track? Tyler=20Z --===============1591739068==-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 14 22:57:31 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9675A183462; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 22:57:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=trufun.com; s=default; h=To:References:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject; bh=jkx0pK139gX167kCNJdpVn1HXqc3BvSJdMOi1Beiu5g=; b=JBnDwlOdf/pCCqVZ8e9nSFReGP7t7nU3JaXsb6/iZU1NPUGFqqt6+2yyADIsqcGzMCVLX5F7VDx0NeAfp95+UD+bmOETi1cGVfR2tf8jKLyo1ot35flPVR/us6E3zWaw; Subject: Re: Songs with lyrics Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: David Gans In-Reply-To: <20120914194836.1377.48453.levelstar.mail@everest> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 15:57:29 -0700 Cc: David Gans Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20120914194836.1377.48453.levelstar.mail@everest> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118312 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 22:57:31 +0000 (UTC) I am primarily a songwriter. I use looping to accompany myself, and I = have several pieces that have actual lyrics, performed with looped chord = changes. I also use the RC-20XL to record the changes so i can play = guitar solos in my "regular" songs, and I have instrumental compositions = that use looping. On Sep 14, 2012, at 12:48 PM, Tyler wrote: > How many of you write songs with lyrics, with looped instruments as = your accompanyment? That's what=20 > Imogen Heap does. Most music on this website is just instrumental; I = have heard vocal looping,=20 > but most of that doesn't have words, it's just syllables like "aa, = daa, dei-o" and such. Are any of you like=20 > Imogen Heap in the sense that you write songs with lyrics, and use = looped instruments as the=20 > accompanyment track? David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 14 23:37:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB05F183463; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 23:37:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=POR95uy0rPsntzoiBqlo8JTp84x2byGW/VnhM4WGsBs=; b=Q4Mo/oWhgNvOXcbgMyXj3Dch/pXFNOyBDo/qZr0jIuC6ejbRVcKkkRPlx1+PFlU1dJ rXfLuibBCenr9LJhyAKlmqk/ih5q/uVz3KmiI//A39EjLOI4FTfaHwcfJA18IW0Yjtvx Y/mUn372aUURpCOfj0aVBzLBiP88yiITIWgaOEpLqig63BeinBVjAUg/ugB/N+G6Kb17 wqNPCEmm7c5ZZzZqKLr4CoQj9IN0fEA0ng4x8F2n7qmyWf49xeaHsvKSE2xZRHHQ4uuS 2nUXNqmsARcF6ZiJxrPlHIVlFE6bUVToVDK9u7LRUivKMg7XonikTjWbPQbqGGIuqiDA 2alQ== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Songs with lyrics From: Matthias Grob In-Reply-To: <20120914194836.1377.48453.levelstar.mail@everest> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 20:36:59 -0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20120914194836.1377.48453.levelstar.mail@everest> To: Loop List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <8PSqtD.A.gDC.4-7UQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118313 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 23:37:28 +0000 (UTC) on http://youtube.com/livelooping there is a playlist with songs you are all welcome to add to it! On 14 Sep 2012, at 16:48, Tyler wrote: > How many of you write songs with lyrics, with looped instruments as = your accompanyment? That's what=20 > Imogen Heap does. Most music on this website is just instrumental; I = have heard vocal looping,=20 > but most of that doesn't have words, it's just syllables like "aa, = daa, dei-o" and such. Are any of you like=20 > Imogen Heap in the sense that you write songs with lyrics, and use = looped instruments as the=20 > accompanyment track? > Tyler Z >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 15 04:15:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4365318345E; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 04:15:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <505400CD.8040903@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 00:15:09 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen to Thought Radio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118314 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 04:15:14 +0000 (UTC) THOUGHT RADIO: http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio ======================================================================= My next stint on Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show, will be Saturday, September 15 at 6 am EDT/GMT-4. In Phase One, I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs. I host the show every other week. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 15 06:54:55 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3C28183461; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 06:54:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3743 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 06:54:55 UTC From: To: References: <20120914194836.1377.48453.levelstar.mail@everest> In-Reply-To: <20120914194836.1377.48453.levelstar.mail@everest> Subject: RE: Songs with lyrics Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 00:52:22 -0500 Message-ID: <01b501cd9306$46f1c8f0$d4d55ad0$@michaelplishka.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQH0wQ952A0G9C6HosoRBW9y7dR6B5c8he9w Content-Language: en-us x-vipre-scanned: 0B4753C500330E0B475512 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118315 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 06:54:55 +0000 (UTC) I do do some; live and here are some that are recorded: "Overwhelmed by You" On our Loopers Delight Compilation 3 is one such tune. If you go into my player on my main music webpage http://www.michaelplishka.com/myWimpy.html , the first song, "All the Things I Don't Say" has pretty extensive lyrics, simple loops and live playing over the top. "You" at the end of the playlist is similar - heavy lyrics and simple loops, especially when done live and I throw in an ebow at the end. You can also check out anything on my old Bohdanovich Myspace page: http://www.myspace.com/bohdanovich though there's a lot of vocal looping as an instrument and vocal harmonies especially in the last couple of tunes in the list. Oh, and those songs are all in Ukrainian. ;-) Peace~ Mike www.michaelplishka.com www.scribbledmusings.com www.zenstorming.com https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Michael-Plishka-Music/269928256959 twitter: @plish -----Original Message----- From: Tyler [mailto:programmer651@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 2:49 PM To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Songs with lyrics How many of you write songs with lyrics, with looped instruments as your accompanyment? That's what Imogen Heap does. Most music on this website is just instrumental; I have heard vocal looping, but most of that doesn't have words, it's just syllables like "aa, daa, dei-o" and such. Are any of you like Imogen Heap in the sense that you write songs with lyrics, and use looped instruments as the accompanyment track? Tyler Z From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 15 10:05:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 425B7183473; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 10:05:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=qO+IM0SVXfkz2cd6C8w+vqBbmfCKT2wmYGP1ai8kY+M=; b=O8QKKUvTZlVcgeF2XkUV7hCdSPWFHWgm9K+RVZ6uIW0ifBgzTn5K4Y8SB3B2wraje3 aFQsf1qim3aNhFgS40+ugXexG2CeXlu/bY9kgBYzDI04XVtEG64ioNXOdbSk939+pl/p aJhxuu2ciLfM12EAwLuLAErXb35Jd6yPgt4wbx4bqXKiJYcNXz1XOrIhWY9ttevcPM1d pJ/AIwhkEbn9Es/98iZAYTiCzhRWENk5fWhux+ACgJLZgpO4T+k2l2eEVFf1B4bV+PJk L+MojwrHH6LsOE5spIObYcdOjpI9ORK1ESLcnmON3WDBZxZibs1yeTIScZpylylXZOu4 6pyA== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Subject: Re: Repetition From: Philip In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 19:05:40 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <2E16866F-FA8E-448C-99F6-F3ABBD61D928@gmail.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118316 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 10:05:45 +0000 (UTC) I think the concept of repetition =3D boring is mistaken. Repetition = defines the human (and most other forms of life) existence. Heartbeats, = breaths, days and nights, waking and sleeping, work, recreation, = procreation...everything we do--even the fun stuff--is repetitive.=20 People rarely complain that it is boring to breathe or that night and = day is monotonous. Perhaps that is due to the fact that we perceive = developments or a purpose or a desired end makes the repetition = meaningful.=20 I enjoy listening to repetitive loops because I can usually expect that = the performer will be adding a bit here and there and/or is ultimately = working toward some kind of goal or an ending.=20 If a performer just looped the same bar over and over, it would be = boring to me. Even a complex one--as soon as I got my head around it, I = would be wanting and waiting for them to work with it or develop it in = some way or another.=20 ...my $.02= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 15 12:15:03 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36C8E183478; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 12:15:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=Akv+0VXx384pqvzK6w7DziJZkTQQSCOp2aJc3PVYrlg=; b=EPmBt7E3soGbMxL5GNUOLJOsMLis4J4Jo+0iRy8RgNextwU7cX5Q51kZD0I+bFZMhR d4Emk5OMFtpXbP8f2/DEAG7j8ex3cia/2K5y+IObtz0aX/+ax5ywd7Z2rDdAedvwcTc/ dv1T5j93mhKQoCuR8WEwhZXc1OeGxkIOwj3ON8Q7+KrOJ39YG0d7ZpU2Ejzs2OuPex2o VnsSbWTS6gS2cQD1x3Ag0ISKI5UN18lEl8J0N9AE7EqasqKTaqsxLLYru6jNUqwb4sJk Bcu2nx50uMQX3F1wnVXFWODXx8MABhp1VnnVvRd5e9ij80s3gA3fw8QknoILwG3tjolY qu2w== From: Christopher Darrow Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5-36909993 Subject: Re: Repetition Repetition was Repetition Repetition Repetition Repetition Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 05:14:57 -0700 In-Reply-To: <504E4A41.4040008@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <-8381857238922045788@unknownmsgid> <504E4A41.4040008@cruzio.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118317 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 12:15:02 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5-36909993 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Live looping is a juggling act.=20 Become conscious of the loop (for more then 1 repetition or so) and it = becomes stagnant and/or self-indulgent. And the balls drop.=20 Slight of hand can extend the trick, but only so far. And yet... > He didn't play a single fill or vary his tempo, one perceptible iota I suspect it's because it was live, and a repeated recording of the = first 4 or 8 bars would have fallen flat without some sort of live = variation. =20 Obviously the exception here is classical minimalism, only changing = slowly after many repetitions, but again that is best stomached live and = has (had) a very limited shelf life.=20 Live looping is all about what makes the repetition not just a = repetition.=20 On Sep 10, 2012, at 1:14 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > When the human brain is presented with too little information, it = will start to project > information; really, a form of hallucination. >=20 > I've posted a famous psychology experiment that I was lucky enough to = participate in > a few times to this forum so I won't reiterate it, but the gist is = that > presented with a tape loop of the non-word 'COGITAE' 25 scientists = and artists > each generated a list of 25-35 words that they had 'heard' the speaker = say > in 20 minutes of constant repetition. >=20 > This of course, is a psycho-acoustic phenomenon, but I think it is = one of the most > interesting aspects of why repetitive music is fascinating to a lot of = human beings. >=20 > We are intrinsically pattern oriented due to the nature of our = neurophysiology. >=20 > Because of this, I always demonstrate by playing one minute of = 'shredding' drumming to students, > utilizing every single chop and conceivable time signature and tempi = in a randomly > spit out order............no repetition if I can help = it................after 30 seconds, it's > almost completely unlistenable, despite the years of technique and = creativity I've put > into trying to achieve some mastery of my instrument. >=20 > I then play the kick on 1 and 3, the snare on 2 and 4 and the hi hats = on 8ths notes > for another minute. The response is palpable. >=20 > It is always my first demonstration when trying to teach a young = drummer how to 'groove'. >=20 > Steve Gadd played this exact exercise for five straight minutes when = he did his > first ever solo drum clinic on the west coast (and every drummer worth = their salt was in attendance, > many having flown up from LA just to see this rare thing). >=20 > He got a standing ovation when he finished. He didn't play a single = fill or vary his tempo, one perceptible > iota. >=20 > It's one of the most beautiful things I've ever witnessed musically. = Every drummer I know who saw it raced home > to play for hours to try and get that 'feel'. >=20 --Apple-Mail-5-36909993 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
When = the human brain is presented with too little information,  it will = start to project
information;   really, a form of = hallucination.

I've posted a famous psychology experiment that I = was lucky enough to participate in
a few times to this forum so I = won't reiterate it, but the gist is that
presented with a tape loop = of the non-word  'COGITAE'  25 scientists and artists
each = generated a list of 25-35 words that they had 'heard' the speaker = say
in 20 minutes of constant repetition.

This of course, is a = psycho-acoustic phenomenon,  but I think it is one of the = most
interesting aspects of why repetitive music is fascinating to a = lot of human beings.

We are intrinsically pattern oriented due to = the nature of our neurophysiology.

Because of this,  I = always demonstrate by playing one minute of 'shredding' drumming to = students,
utilizing every single chop and conceivable time signature = and tempi in a randomly
spit out order............no repetition if I = can help it................after 30 seconds, it's
almost completely = unlistenable, despite the years of technique and creativity I've = put
into trying to achieve some mastery of my instrument.

I = then play the kick on 1 and 3, the snare on 2 and 4 and the hi hats on = 8ths notes
for another minute.      The = response is palpable.

It is always my first demonstration when = trying to teach a young drummer how to 'groove'.

Steve Gadd = played this exact exercise for five straight minutes when he did = his
first ever solo drum clinic on the west coast (and every drummer = worth their salt was in attendance,
many having flown up from LA just = to see this rare thing).

He got a standing ovation when he = finished.   He didn't play a single fill or vary his tempo, = one perceptible
iota.

It's one of the most beautiful things = I've ever witnessed musically.    Every drummer I know = who saw it raced home
to play for hours to try and get that = 'feel'.


= --Apple-Mail-5-36909993-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 15 16:42:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF031183474; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 16:42:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_39caa4af-63de-4d41-9295-fb46c4163cd4_" X-Originating-IP: [92.228.255.86] From: Sergio G Sender: To: Subject: RE: Repetition Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 16:41:59 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <2E16866F-FA8E-448C-99F6-F3ABBD61D928@gmail.com> References: ,<2E16866F-FA8E-448C-99F6-F3ABBD61D928@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Sep 2012 16:41:59.0890 (UTC) FILETIME=[06CE3320:01CD9361] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118318 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 16:42:00 +0000 (UTC) --_39caa4af-63de-4d41-9295-fb46c4163cd4_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Right. Both things are important=2C as always. Repetition and change are bo= th important.The hindu have three main Gods: Brahma=2C Vishnu=2C Shiva.More= than Gods in the meaning of "thinking entities"=2C they are just represent= ations of the three more important components of life: creation=2C preserva= tion=2C transformation.Things appear=2C stay for a while=2C than they chang= e.I would like to hear a music which is like that. A flow without beginning= and without end (I suppose this can only be achieved with fade in and fade= out=2C to give the impression of something which was already playing and w= hich will keep playing)=2C where some forms/sounds appear=2C stay/repeat=2C= then change/transform till they are completely different=2C till all is co= mpletely different. by the way=2C somebody here has a signature with a sentence of Ramana Mahar= ishi (till now you believed to be the body and to have a form...) I wrote h= im once=2C then I lost his email among the others and forgot his name.Who i= s him? Ser > Subject: Re: Repetition > From: philip.ojc@gmail.com > Date: Sat=2C 15 Sep 2012 19:05:40 +0900 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > I think the concept of repetition =3D boring is mistaken. Repetition defi= nes the human (and most other forms of life) existence. Heartbeats=2C breat= hs=2C days and nights=2C waking and sleeping=2C work=2C recreation=2C procr= eation...everything we do--even the fun stuff--is repetitive.=20 >=20 > People rarely complain that it is boring to breathe or that night and day= is monotonous. Perhaps that is due to the fact that we perceive developmen= ts or a purpose or a desired end makes the repetition meaningful.=20 >=20 > I enjoy listening to repetitive loops because I can usually expect that t= he performer will be adding a bit here and there and/or is ultimately worki= ng toward some kind of goal or an ending.=20 >=20 > If a performer just looped the same bar over and over=2C it would be bori= ng to me. Even a complex one--as soon as I got my head around it=2C I would= be wanting and waiting for them to work with it or develop it in some way = or another.=20 >=20 > ....my $.02 = --_39caa4af-63de-4d41-9295-fb46c4163cd4_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Right. Both things are important=2C as always. Repetition and change are bo= th important.
The hindu have three main Gods: Brahma=2C Vishnu=2C Shiva= .
More than Gods in the meaning of "thinking entities"=2C they ar= e just representations of the three more important components of life: crea= tion=2C preservation=2C transformation.
Things appear=2C stay for= a while=2C than they change.
I would like to hear a music which = is like that. A flow without beginning and without end (I suppose this can = only be achieved with fade in and fade out=2C to give the impression of som= ething which was already playing and which will keep playing)=2C where some= forms/sounds appear=2C stay/repeat=2C then change/transform till they are = completely different=2C till all is completely different.

by the way=2C somebody here has a signature with a sentence of Rama= na Maharishi (till now you believed to be the body and to have a form...)&n= bsp=3B
I wrote him once=2C then I lost his email among the others= and forgot his name.
Who is him?

Ser


>= =3B Subject: Re: Repetition
>=3B From: philip.ojc@gmail.com
>=3B = Date: Sat=2C 15 Sep 2012 19:05:40 +0900
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
>=3B
>=3B I think the concept of repetition =3D b= oring is mistaken. Repetition defines the human (and most other forms of li= fe) existence. Heartbeats=2C breaths=2C days and nights=2C waking and sleep= ing=2C work=2C recreation=2C procreation...everything we do--even the fun s= tuff--is repetitive.
>=3B
>=3B People rarely complain that it i= s boring to breathe or that night and day is monotonous. Perhaps that is du= e to the fact that we perceive developments or a purpose or a desired end m= akes the repetition meaningful.
>=3B
>=3B I enjoy listening to = repetitive loops because I can usually expect that the performer will be ad= ding a bit here and there and/or is ultimately working toward some kind of = goal or an ending.
>=3B
>=3B If a performer just looped the sam= e bar over and over=2C it would be boring to me. Even a complex one--as soo= n as I got my head around it=2C I would be wanting and waiting for them to = work with it or develop it in some way or another.
>=3B
>=3B ..= ..my $.02
= --_39caa4af-63de-4d41-9295-fb46c4163cd4_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 15 16:48:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80E66183473; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 16:48:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_093253c6-f4ce-4397-88bc-2eca625a6a68_" X-Originating-IP: [92.228.255.86] From: Sergio G Sender: To: Subject: RE: Repetition (for Rick) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 16:48:40 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <-8381857238922045788@unknownmsgid> <504E4A41.4040008@cruzio.com>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Sep 2012 16:48:40.0004 (UTC) FILETIME=[F54AC040:01CD9361] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118319 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 16:48:41 +0000 (UTC) --_093253c6-f4ce-4397-88bc-2eca625a6a68_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rick=2C would you please tell me the title of that email of you or send me = privately the info about that?I am interested in reading more about it.Actu= ally from this message of you I did not understand well what you are talkin= g about :( I've lost you at "gist".Maybe fault of my english. I am also very very interested in a video or audio recording of this Steve = Gadd performance. Thanks On Sep 10=2C 2012=2C at 1:14 PM=2C Rick Walker wrote:When the human brain i= s presented with too little information=2C it will start to project information=3B really=2C a form of hallucination. I've posted a famous psychology experiment that I was lucky enough to parti= cipate in a few times to this forum so I won't reiterate it=2C but the gist is that presented with a tape loop of the non-word 'COGITAE' 25 scientists and ar= tists each generated a list of 25-35 words that they had 'heard' the speaker say in 20 minutes of constant repetition. This of course=2C is a psycho-acoustic phenomenon=2C but I think it is one= of the most interesting aspects of why repetitive music is fascinating to a lot of huma= n beings. We are intrinsically pattern oriented due to the nature of our neurophysiol= ogy. Because of this=2C I always demonstrate by playing one minute of 'shreddin= g' drumming to students=2C utilizing every single chop and conceivable time signature and tempi in a r= andomly spit out order............no repetition if I can help it................aft= er 30 seconds=2C it's almost completely unlistenable=2C despite the years of technique and creati= vity I've put into trying to achieve some mastery of my instrument. I then play the kick on 1 and 3=2C the snare on 2 and 4 and the hi hats on = 8ths notes for another minute. The response is palpable. It is always my first demonstration when trying to teach a young drummer ho= w to 'groove'. Steve Gadd played this exact exercise for five straight minutes when he did= his first ever solo drum clinic on the west coast (and every drummer worth thei= r salt was in attendance=2C many having flown up from LA just to see this rare thing). He got a standing ovation when he finished. He didn't play a single fill = or vary his tempo=2C one perceptible iota. It's one of the most beautiful things I've ever witnessed musically. Eve= ry drummer I know who saw it raced home to play for hours to try and get that 'feel'. = --_093253c6-f4ce-4397-88bc-2eca625a6a68_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rick=2C would you please tell me the title of that email of you o= r send me =3Bprivately =3Bthe info about that?
I am inter= ested in reading more about it.
Actually from this message of you= I did not understand well what you are talking about :( I've lost you at "= gist".
Maybe fault of my english.

I am also v= ery very interested in a video or audio recording of this Steve Gadd perfor= mance.

Thanks

On Sep 10=2C= 2012=2C at 1:14 PM=2C Rick Walker wrote:

When the human brain is presented with too = little information=2C  =3Bit will start to project
information=3B &n= bsp=3B =3Breally=2C a form of hallucination.

I've posted a famou= s psychology experiment that I was lucky enough to participate in
a few = times to this forum so I won't reiterate it=2C but the gist is that
pres= ented with a tape loop of the non-word  =3B'COGITAE'  =3B25 scienti= sts and artists
each generated a list of 25-35 words that they had 'hear= d' the speaker say
in 20 minutes of constant repetition.

This of = course=2C is a psycho-acoustic phenomenon=2C  =3Bbut I think it is one = of the most
interesting aspects of why repetitive music is fascinating t= o a lot of human beings.

We are intrinsically pattern oriented due t= o the nature of our neurophysiology.

Because of this=2C  =3BI al= ways demonstrate by playing one minute of 'shredding' drumming to students= =2C
utilizing every single chop and conceivable time signature and tempi= in a randomly
spit out order............no repetition if I can help it.= ...............after 30 seconds=2C it's
almost completely unlistenable= =2C despite the years of technique and creativity I've put
into trying t= o achieve some mastery of my instrument.

I then play the kick on 1 a= nd 3=2C the snare on 2 and 4 and the hi hats on 8ths notes
for another m= inute.  =3B =3B =3B =3B =3BThe response is palpable.
It is always my first demonstration when trying to teach a young drumm= er how to 'groove'.

Steve Gadd played this exact exercise for five s= traight minutes when he did his
first ever solo drum clinic on the west = coast (and every drummer worth their salt was in attendance=2C
many havi= ng flown up from LA just to see this rare thing).

He got a standing = ovation when he finished.  =3B =3BHe didn't play a single fill or v= ary his tempo=2C one perceptible
iota.

It's one of the most beaut= iful things I've ever witnessed musically.  =3B =3B =3BEvery dr= ummer I know who saw it raced home
to play for hours to try and get that= 'feel'.


= --_093253c6-f4ce-4397-88bc-2eca625a6a68_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 15 18:06:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44C2118347E; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:06:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: To: References: <2E16866F-FA8E-448C-99F6-F3ABBD61D928@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2E16866F-FA8E-448C-99F6-F3ABBD61D928@gmail.com> Subject: RE: Repetition Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 13:06:33 -0500 Message-ID: <014301cd936c$d7477d30$85d67790$@michaelplishka.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AQFxELmiNIle/9/AdM9+DfejZW3AIwFlCLHYAlJxL8mYJvmYEA== x-vipre-scanned: 0DF3E75B0033140DF3E8A8 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118320 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:06:45 +0000 (UTC) Fascinating and astute thread! It's also interesting that many religious experiences, from communal to personal, have some type of rhythm and repetition to them (and they're often tied into bodily rhythms/repetitions.) Thanks!! Mike www.michaelplishka.com www.scribbledmusings.com www.zenstorming.com -----Original Message----- From: Philip [mailto:philip.ojc@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 5:06 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Repetition I think the concept of repetition = boring is mistaken. Repetition defines the human (and most other forms of life) existence. Heartbeats, breaths, days and nights, waking and sleeping, work, recreation, procreation...everything we do--even the fun stuff--is repetitive. People rarely complain that it is boring to breathe or that night and day is monotonous. Perhaps that is due to the fact that we perceive developments or a purpose or a desired end makes the repetition meaningful. I enjoy listening to repetitive loops because I can usually expect that the performer will be adding a bit here and there and/or is ultimately working toward some kind of goal or an ending. If a performer just looped the same bar over and over, it would be boring to me. Even a complex one--as soon as I got my head around it, I would be wanting and waiting for them to work with it or develop it in some way or another. ...my $.02 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 15 18:32:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 99F8818347D; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:32:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_ee8da348-8e56-40e2-bd30-d297847aa125_" X-Originating-IP: [92.228.255.86] From: Sergio G Sender: To: Subject: RE: Repetition Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:32:26 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <014301cd936c$d7477d30$85d67790$@michaelplishka.com> References: <2E16866F-FA8E-448C-99F6-F3ABBD61D928@gmail.com>,<014301cd936c$d7477d30$85d67790$@michaelplishka.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Sep 2012 18:32:26.0187 (UTC) FILETIME=[7462E1B0:01CD9370] Resent-Message-ID: <_izel.A.yeC.7mMVQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118321 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:32:27 +0000 (UTC) --_ee8da348-8e56-40e2-bd30-d297847aa125_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well=2C think also about the work of Grotowski and Eugenio Barba in Theatre= .They were working with the concept of repetition and fatigue. Ok=2C this i= s something a bit different=2C but still another interesting point of view = on repetition: they believed (and for the few I can say=2C I proved it true= =2C as I studied and practiced theatre) that a long training was the best w= ay to break the defenses of the ego. Normally when you train/rehearse=2C yo= ur mind is there=2C your ego=2C critic=2C active=2C invasive=2C judging=2C = saying no and yes=2C repressing=2C limiting.There is a point=2C when you wo= rk with fatigue=2C where you feel tired=2C you would like to stop=2C you ca= n't anymore. THere is where the real training STARTS. You are tired=2C you= r mind is not active anymore=2C you are just body and intuition=2C open=2C = receptive.I believe with music can be the same.But I also believe that it i= s not so easy to achieve=2C in concerts. I mean especially=2C to achieve th= at people stay enough to perceive the change after their judging mind stop = saying them "this is a boring piece of s... go away". :) Who likes "we did it again" by Soft Machine?Starting from the title=2C I fi= nd it pure genious. Ser now=2C let's go dancing repetitive techno... > From: mike@michaelplishka.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: RE: Repetition > Date: Sat=2C 15 Sep 2012 13:06:33 -0500 >=20 > Fascinating and astute thread! >=20 > It's also interesting that many religious experiences=2C from communal to > personal=2C have some type of rhythm and repetition to them (and they're = often > tied into bodily rhythms/repetitions.) >=20 > Thanks!! >=20 >=20 > Mike >=20 >=20 > www.michaelplishka.com > www.scribbledmusings.com > www.zenstorming.com >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Philip [mailto:philip.ojc@gmail.com]=20 > Sent: Saturday=2C September 15=2C 2012 5:06 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Repetition >=20 > I think the concept of repetition =3D boring is mistaken. Repetition defi= nes > the human (and most other forms of life) existence. Heartbeats=2C breaths= =2C > days and nights=2C waking and sleeping=2C work=2C recreation=2C > procreation...everything we do--even the fun stuff--is repetitive.=20 >=20 > People rarely complain that it is boring to breathe or that night and day= is > monotonous. Perhaps that is due to the fact that we perceive developments= or > a purpose or a desired end makes the repetition meaningful.=20 >=20 > I enjoy listening to repetitive loops because I can usually expect that t= he > performer will be adding a bit here and there and/or is ultimately workin= g > toward some kind of goal or an ending.=20 >=20 > If a performer just looped the same bar over and over=2C it would be bori= ng to > me. Even a complex one--as soon as I got my head around it=2C I would be > wanting and waiting for them to work with it or develop it in some way or > another.=20 >=20 > ....my $.02 >=20 = --_ee8da348-8e56-40e2-bd30-d297847aa125_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well=2C think also about the work of Grotowski and Eugenio Barba in Theatre= .
They were working with the concept of repetition and fatigue. Ok=2C t= his is something a bit different=2C but still another interesting point of = view on repetition: they believed (and for the few I can say=2C I proved it= true=2C as I studied and practiced theatre) that a long training was the b= est way to break the defenses of the ego. Normally when you train/rehearse= =2C your mind is there=2C your ego=2C critic=2C active=2C invasive=2C judgi= ng=2C saying no and yes=2C repressing=2C limiting.
There is a poi= nt=2C when you work with fatigue=2C where you feel tired=2C you would like = to stop=2C you can't anymore.  =3BTHere is where the real training STAR= TS. You are tired=2C your mind is not active anymore=2C you are just body a= nd intuition=2C open=2C receptive.
I believe with music can be th= e same.
But I also believe that it is not so easy to achieve=2C i= n concerts. I mean especially=2C to achieve that people stay enough to perc= eive the change after their judging mind stop saying them "this is a boring= piece of s... go away".

:)

Who likes "we did it again" by Soft Machine?
Starting from the= title=2C I find it pure genious.


S= er

now=2C let's go dancing repetitive techno...
>=3B From: mike@michaelpl= ishka.com
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B Subje= ct: RE: Repetition
>=3B Date: Sat=2C 15 Sep 2012 13:06:33 -0500
>= =3B
>=3B Fascinating and astute thread!
>=3B
>=3B It's als= o interesting that many religious experiences=2C from communal to
>=3B= personal=2C have some type of rhythm and repetition to them (and they're o= ften
>=3B tied into bodily rhythms/repetitions.)
>=3B
>=3B = Thanks!!
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B Mike
>=3B
>=3B
>= =3B www.michaelplishka.com
>=3B www.scribbledmusings.com
>=3B www= .zenstorming.com
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B -----Original Message-----=
>=3B From: Philip [mailto:philip.ojc@gmail.com]
>=3B Sent: Satu= rday=2C September 15=2C 2012 5:06 AM
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-= delight.com
>=3B Subject: Re: Repetition
>=3B
>=3B I think = the concept of repetition =3D boring is mistaken. Repetition defines
>= =3B the human (and most other forms of life) existence. Heartbeats=2C breat= hs=2C
>=3B days and nights=2C waking and sleeping=2C work=2C recreatio= n=2C
>=3B procreation...everything we do--even the fun stuff--is repet= itive.
>=3B
>=3B People rarely complain that it is boring to br= eathe or that night and day is
>=3B monotonous. Perhaps that is due to= the fact that we perceive developments or
>=3B a purpose or a desired= end makes the repetition meaningful.
>=3B
>=3B I enjoy listeni= ng to repetitive loops because I can usually expect that the
>=3B perf= ormer will be adding a bit here and there and/or is ultimately working
&= gt=3B toward some kind of goal or an ending.
>=3B
>=3B If a per= former just looped the same bar over and over=2C it would be boring to
&= gt=3B me. Even a complex one--as soon as I got my head around it=2C I would= be
>=3B wanting and waiting for them to work with it or develop it in= some way or
>=3B another.
>=3B
>=3B ....my $.02
>=3B=
= --_ee8da348-8e56-40e2-bd30-d297847aa125_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 16 03:10:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C295E18347F; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 03:10:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=PteISEZzIr0Lp4gxfchhFW59BjY58aS5ug6xTbVSjkM=; b=TAdAeQlsa+wPlB3UpyFhu2Iy9yvBmtAa00EbKl6PDdzh/B/eDdnxBwz2HzOa9Ya9cf HucZuyTW/xeEk969r4lorn+lMTL4T3g8Q+c89E+ZUW0sNPAElzHngOe7nWcgbAqCRXTH +BTzqb9ffSkVseC64Q1IaKmH2Y2MyiKMYxDlCpst0tHsSb/mhSdnMwuaV3lXVldWx6lL HrHbS4noW0NJ8ef4INLWLw4zdbFg1sUDy9zhxW1NT61gYKgnexGM4vk/B/AsGoFqusvz q4EkL2sH1KyeVBIrevAWIAQpxsQ2nETx72JobUoyOegVN5nfjJqQ9jmKi4DN+SRR363X l6SQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 20:10:33 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: OT: Eivind Aarset Trio - Electromagnetic From: Art Simon To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118322 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 03:10:35 +0000 (UTC) Nice video of Eivind Aarset from "Oslo Jazzed Out" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItadEw7RqXg -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 16 12:40:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69A0F18347F; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 12:40:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5055C8B6.2070004@soundscapes.us> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:40:22 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Thought Radio Playlist for September 15, 2012. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118323 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 12:40:27 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2012/120915.html The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EDT/GMT-4 on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. Show #233 September 15, 2012. Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [Kelvin Smith] Mountain of Light Sequences No. 20 VA [Elektronische E Motion Sequences No. 20 Maschine] VA [Ashok Prema] Unicorn Sequences No. 20 Hunter and Harrison Gas To Plasma - Phase 1 (Music With Space) Ionization Northcore Jupiter Desatero (O3E) Northcore Nocturne Desatero (O3E) The Redundant Rocker Renee as Yoko Heart (Unsung) Dan Pound Other Worlds Return To Other Worlds (Poundsounds) Phase II/Eclectic: Preempted by Phases 1 and 2 Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Pinnacle Some Just Sleep A Blueprint For Chaos (Fox's Den) Pinnacle A Rhythm Of Life A Blueprint For Chaos (Fox's Den) Pinnacle Conductor (The Last A Blueprint For Chaos (Fox's Stop) Den) Pinnacle One More Day A Blueprint For Chaos (Fox's Den) John Galgano 1000 Real Life Is Meeting (Doone) It Bites The Tall Ships The Tall Ships (none) Alan Morse Cold Fusion * Four O'clock and Hysteria (InsideOut) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill Fox ======================================================================== Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EDT/GMT-4. Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music. Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Website - http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html ======================================================================== The progdj list is the central clearing house for radio playlists of Progressive Rock programs. Tired of joining dozens of mailing lists to post playlists or track airplay? The progdj list solves that problem. The progdj list is the place to go in order to see playlists and CD and concert reviews by DJs of progressive rock-friendly radio programs. Anyone interested in seeing playlists can join. 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To join, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/progdj and click on the [Join This Group!] link. ======================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 16 13:19:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA565183482; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:19:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=OBPmRUcoaenfn+HclkfG+E0jZtPXnZTQx04PVOS57Wg=; b=CQ5z1FJwK2438IR907VDqoXrZ68A8k41UU0lnTbfMpUaJr6j/+eENsEpKtA3mdgLlU 2Vt7/NG1jB1m35UxgVUvEBW2iuNlI7I7+0kSl1nkmirIUSn/+p9xXNbJI4I4b+rKjYaY owdt98tkUNLR8cCguGiVhyu7ySylDMPiWvAVOBybUjEq6FPp/KwEXtYJVFQppA6NKIED wKRG22v+UBMeDF7bFjLgFLapCvAJULE2qjr/nYZjLOfxnPhFpupqqInI4oh90OKOdukC ji//OQ9vOWH3HbPPy61w7PdNQYeKHFIaBI/hVVW6Okmi7Dt/XFKlkYqXF6sGaDbhXQnt Uszw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:18:59 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Eivind Aarset Trio - Electromagnetic From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118324 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:19:00 +0000 (UTC) Thanks, that was a really nice video! Some interesting talking and great music played... Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 5:10 AM, Art Simon wrote: > Nice video of Eivind Aarset from "Oslo Jazzed Out" > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItadEw7RqXg > > > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 16 17:33:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84D7818348C; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 17:33:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=vDhFwLDijePUJ4NisXVMWXOexse06CMSUASitJQZeU0=; b=0GmdOq/tQsleK8qRF/dCqDYSA1lJd8nxZT06UfooB4i96nPcziHw6CgrebjkNMV+94 WV5W+od47IP1gTGePGtRwJcYZFTW0WU045+hU1V8VdjsYjZkKEg/K7DGjTYsePy9BTUg hMVI8kUkjSo98VxTFvrM6H27t9mh37AT+H8BpazxD7yUbB7FRgW9R1HrA9fyhVZ8oRxy eizDZffKKAhmewclfL4vpVnF5/2oUHWzuUGt551EHYmcOlGOsB50HNuBRW06gtyEEGd8 DAVH48VWB17xitjvSLPcqEAYf8QW+H1SWUmhXWUcfrIBVZvVAbJfi6PLilPWOgO+OxOe aAMQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 19:32:54 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: gaNtQPv7Ul1zpv0BBWkDe3N11CM Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Eivind Aarset Trio - Electromagnetic To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b66f1cd57756004c9d50de7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118325 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 17:33:17 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b66f1cd57756004c9d50de7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Phew.. what drumming! On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Thanks, that was a really nice video! Some interesting talking and > great music played... > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 5:10 AM, Art Simon wrote: > > Nice video of Eivind Aarset from "Oslo Jazzed Out" > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItadEw7RqXg > > > > > > -- > > Art Simon > > simart@gmail.com > > > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b66f1cd57756004c9d50de7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Phew.. what drumming!

On Sun, Sep 16, 201= 2 at 3:18 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px= #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Thanks, that was a really nice video! Some interesting talking and
great music played...

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.y= outube.com/perboysen


On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 5:10 AM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
> Nice video of Eivind Aarset from "Oslo Jazzed Out"
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DItadEw7RqXg
>
>
> --
> Art Simon
> simart@gmail.com
>




--
= Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
<= /font>
--047d7b66f1cd57756004c9d50de7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 17 00:13:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7AF4118348C; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 00:13:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:x-priority:in-reply-to:date :message-id:references:to:x-mailer:x-gm-message-state; bh=teXasoI9DWV7YvcPAQBBxbdq4FpDUNBZchPPYx8Gpms=; b=ZJvnowtHFzlHLVcehghN+3RUZyuEuCkdzEyatntgW6xdT0s9U2JiPtuwfTtPxN+rO+ 3sff16Wb2TiuZYucNIFU2QqDB4aT8Aswp+w/JgqqdJ3JXpJAR2wrRh+j2/lCLFr7TjzX PwM76L8dCPD4kN7/f0lhUM7zfnhYW0y1K4pkdhItG23jYYQMJWvK4QEb03XFfW4Tu4WJ 87KJqmf4u9aLLYJ39ppOZ1qpq18b7xOrAQpiX3fvmIG7Rv3ZRUpPZZgNRyqMXtucolPj +z5SVVejud6+pTD4zi40NUSSFPbLzP69A4TLK7nl+r/s0yYRjo0g75T78gdvRoD7Sgru z46w== Subject: Re: Live looping on Long Island, New York Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-12-166415405 From: teddyjam.com X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <19E73E68C80341628DBD2EF2F768E01A@Bedroom> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 20:13:22 -0400 Message-Id: References: <19E73E68C80341628DBD2EF2F768E01A@Bedroom> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkbQeT5/ivoXZWpktgy42LB4vp/aP5ScmKPnSIPH+rKYGKYaB0E7n/14q8w0IqFd+ZgY2Va Resent-Message-ID: <2dWIQD.A.QU.lsmVQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118326 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 00:13:25 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-12-166415405 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I grew up in Port Jefferson. Great that they have a festival now! I'm = going to try to make it out to hear you. thanks for letting us know I do the live loopings EVERY monday night at midnight in NYC at the = Rockwood Music Hall different *famous* bass player and drummer every week... -- http://teddyjam.com On Sep 13, 2012, at 10:53 AM, Douglas Baldwin wrote: > Is there anyone here who lives on Long Island? > =20 > I will be doing a set of live looping at the Port Jefferson Music = Festival on Sunday, September 30th at noon. > Even if you can't make it, give me a shout back. >=20 > Douglas Baldwin > Alpha Coyote > coyotelk@optonline.net > www.TheCoyote.org > www.facebook.com/people/Douglas-Baldwin > =20 > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring = production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid.=20 > -- Frank Zappa=20 --Apple-Mail-12-166415405 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I grew up in Port Jefferson. Great that they have a = festival now! I'm going to try to make it out to hear you. thanks for = letting us know

I do the live loopings EVERY monday = night at midnight in NYC at the Rockwood Music Hall
different = *famous* bass player and drummer every week...
--

On Sep 13, 2012, at 10:53 AM, Douglas Baldwin = wrote:

Is there anyone here who lives on Long = Island?
 
I will be doing a set of live looping = at the Port Jefferson Music Festival on Sunday, September 30th at = noon.
Even if you can't make it, give me a shout = back.
 
"Without music to = decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or = dates by which bills must be paid. 
-- Frank Zappa 

= --Apple-Mail-12-166415405-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 17 01:08:02 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7BBC118348E; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 01:08:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=3C1v48eoTYXp59FW/DCFUmkME/kvhKx4xK0KJg23ZRs=; b=RjG+hNN9UxioUhhdiFeF3cYA9agGHTosPeKoNDfbr+pTqwG7WfBP6GwRnss3TegORW HOUCKOgUGtLgMIPUYiCEO+ieS+6/tzJJWAT4moBeoQXeZSUCdQVXQeB+Yw5iWagq94xX wgO5P7Q67tc/eztK8XapqbTlOinCWjaJqpOPVOIeIx94Ga9fNRzY5tg/Vurt8+XFNbKf LolGT5MgZ1mQpkioZvbAG0p3cAY7Y1En3RB17q1iCwzSER+BttG1knmq5yDDMT69OqLy 89puuMqm2kkSGh0XzDY4Q2bmGqq9g0D0kyZIhDIY26JAWxtqXPLOCipYYU99ejeMtvwX vWkQ== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Songs with lyrics From: "teddyjam.com" In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 21:07:59 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <6EE99E27-D744-4C61-8A25-92623D1E3E96@teddyjam.com> References: <20120914194836.1377.48453.levelstar.mail@everest> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnwWui6wY3mUrquG62LxdYe7smn55ErKvUzKtECTDrdy2NTHzpgdRL/HxWXUjfclwI3rJfF Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118327 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 01:08:02 +0000 (UTC) how do you add to it if we're not you? On Sep 14, 2012, at 7:36 PM, Matthias Grob wrote: > on http://youtube.com/livelooping there is a playlist with songs > you are all welcome to add to it! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 17 06:43:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8AF6D18348F; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 06:43:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_2917ccef-d8c2-4e88-bf8f-a8bdb9504561_" X-Originating-IP: [70.29.94.149] From: X X To: Subject: RE: Repetition Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 06:43:38 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <2E16866F-FA8E-448C-99F6-F3ABBD61D928@gmail.com> References: ,<2E16866F-FA8E-448C-99F6-F3ABBD61D928@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Sep 2012 06:43:38.0876 (UTC) FILETIME=[C4F5B3C0:01CD949F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118328 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 06:43:40 +0000 (UTC) --_2917ccef-d8c2-4e88-bf8f-a8bdb9504561_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > From: philip.ojc@gmail.com > Date: Sat=2C 15 Sep 2012 19:05:40 +0900 > I enjoy listening to repetitive loops because I can usually expect that t= he performer will be adding a bit here and there and/or is ultimately worki= ng toward some kind of goal or an ending.=20 >=20 > If a performer just looped the same bar over and over=2C it would be bori= ng to me. Even a complex one--as soon as I got my head around it=2C I would= be wanting and waiting for them to work with it or develop it in some way = or another.=20 > William Basinski pulls it off amazingly. Same loop=2C but somehow I seem to= get lost in time. I think there are subtle changes being made to the loop = as it progresses. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DzFWme9D6LkQ Getting a solid loop down is special=2C but I think once we begin breaking = it down=2C expanding it=2C and allowing it to morph NATURALLY=2C repetition= is beautiful. Not to get egotistical or anything=2C but I think it takes a= very appreciative individual to enjoy loops like the one above. When I pla= y this stuff around the house (where one usually listens to "this kind of m= usic") my family is like=2C "WTF IS THIS CRAP!" They listen to a lot mainst= ream radio so it ain't much of a surprise. Looping =3D Zen=2C BUT=2C his story repeats itself. LOOP wisely lol = --_2917ccef-d8c2-4e88-bf8f-a8bdb9504561_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>=3B From: philip.ojc@gmail.com
>=3B Date: Sat=2C 15 Sep 2012 1= 9:05:40 +0900
>=3B I enjoy listening to repetitive loops because I can= usually expect that the performer will be adding a bit here and there and/= or is ultimately working toward some kind of goal or an ending.
>=3B =
>=3B If a performer just looped the same bar over and over=2C it woul= d be boring to me. Even a complex one--as soon as I got my head around it= =2C I would be wanting and waiting for them to work with it or develop it i= n some way or another.
>=3B

William Basinski pulls it off amaz= ingly. Same loop=2C but somehow I seem to get lost in time. I think there a= re subtle changes being made to the loop as it progresses.


http:= //www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DzFWme9D6LkQ


Getting a solid loop dow= n is special=2C but I think once we begin breaking it down=2C expanding it= =2C and allowing it to morph NATURALLY=2C repetition is beautiful. Not to g= et egotistical or anything=2C but I think it takes a very appreciative indi= vidual to enjoy loops like the one above. When I play this stuff around the= house (where one usually listens to "this kind of music") my family is lik= e=2C "WTF IS THIS CRAP!" They listen to a lot mainstream radio so it ain't = much of a surprise.

Looping =3D Zen=2C BUT=2C his story repeats itse= lf. LOOP wisely lol
= --_2917ccef-d8c2-4e88-bf8f-a8bdb9504561_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 17 11:29:11 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 585A0183494; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 11:29:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=sSs86zvqO4f5I5Nrw4HQ8fUKLh2b1bj1z9MnvPgapfo=; b=LlxeW/M3GvdvH4vtsb5W8vUjhmLjZd+vylRigeoshoMcCqLi4dp2gZKTLfGOVs63Uf UvLBGCRgLQF2x+nhzHelilrJjAWMZ8HIbS+6QOYLN3UwwikZKL0s11SUZfkVpet3zkl5 bnKrktl76ozIVl4iQwbYsJBGs1RA4Vxort5CnqVZ8EzHwXj4iDKP6WrhMrnfxq3gqe7k NK32o+YGXzX4UmydQ8X3J2KqUaGTND5hOAwyvOO2hTuMBMLOvY2ohxkrG0Hl6nhKf+Bi PDMPIkL6rgKHPRV9RZsLdYEw9hgS8QNbKCSTkhUMC0kIBMvD2idQ1WwyWEA4/jY2ycqB X5Hw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <2E16866F-FA8E-448C-99F6-F3ABBD61D928@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 13:29:10 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Repetition From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118329 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 11:29:11 +0000 (UTC) I like that Basinski piece, thanks for the nod! You're right that it may well be called "loop music" because it is definitely not "looping music" (as in live looping). But both these names are technical, as they describe the way the music is created in a technical way (loops repeating). Another interesting way to describe music is to rather go with the listener's view (like looking at what the music communicates) and in this context it could be called "ambient", since this music is just like a room in the way that its outer borders do not change. The change you might experience is all taking place inside your own consciousness. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:43 AM, X X wrote: >> From: philip.ojc@gmail.com >> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 19:05:40 +0900 >> I enjoy listening to repetitive loops because I can usually expect that >> the performer will be adding a bit here and there and/or is ultimately >> working toward some kind of goal or an ending. >> >> If a performer just looped the same bar over and over, it would be boring >> to me. Even a complex one--as soon as I got my head around it, I would be >> wanting and waiting for them to work with it or develop it in some way or >> another. >> > > William Basinski pulls it off amazingly. Same loop, but somehow I seem to > get lost in time. I think there are subtle changes being made to the loop as > it progresses. > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFWme9D6LkQ > > > Getting a solid loop down is special, but I think once we begin breaking it > down, expanding it, and allowing it to morph NATURALLY, repetition is > beautiful. Not to get egotistical or anything, but I think it takes a very > appreciative individual to enjoy loops like the one above. When I play this > stuff around the house (where one usually listens to "this kind of music") > my family is like, "WTF IS THIS CRAP!" They listen to a lot mainstream radio > so it ain't much of a surprise. > > Looping = Zen, BUT, his story repeats itself. LOOP wisely lol From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 17 15:20:11 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DCFC6183495; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:20:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <409C0098A6EC412384B619ED74C9C6CC@SgtephPC> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <2E16866F-FA8E-448C-99F6-F3ABBD61D928@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Repetition Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 11:20:05 -0400 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3555.308 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118330 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:20:10 +0000 (UTC) As usual, however, I have the slightly-dissenting opinion that "live looping" is only a phrase that describes looping, live. Just like the difference between performing-recording in a studio, and performing-recording, live. So I don't follow that aspect in the least, though I support peoples' right to go on calling what they do whatever they like. Differentiating seems to me to have no greater attribute other than the word "live". -----Original Message----- From: Per Boysen Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 7:29 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Repetition I like that Basinski piece, thanks for the nod! You're right that it may well be called "loop music" because it is definitely not "looping music" (as in live looping). But both these names are technical, as they describe the way the music is created in a technical way (loops repeating). Another interesting way to describe music is to rather go with the listener's view (like looking at what the music communicates) and in this context it could be called "ambient", since this music is just like a room in the way that its outer borders do not change. The change you might experience is all taking place inside your own consciousness. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:43 AM, X X wrote: >> From: philip.ojc@gmail.com >> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 19:05:40 +0900 >> I enjoy listening to repetitive loops because I can usually expect that >> the performer will be adding a bit here and there and/or is ultimately >> working toward some kind of goal or an ending. >> >> If a performer just looped the same bar over and over, it would be boring >> to me. Even a complex one--as soon as I got my head around it, I would be >> wanting and waiting for them to work with it or develop it in some way or >> another. >> > > William Basinski pulls it off amazingly. Same loop, but somehow I seem to > get lost in time. I think there are subtle changes being made to the loop > as > it progresses. > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFWme9D6LkQ > > > Getting a solid loop down is special, but I think once we begin breaking > it > down, expanding it, and allowing it to morph NATURALLY, repetition is > beautiful. Not to get egotistical or anything, but I think it takes a very > appreciative individual to enjoy loops like the one above. When I play > this > stuff around the house (where one usually listens to "this kind of music") > my family is like, "WTF IS THIS CRAP!" They listen to a lot mainstream > radio > so it ain't much of a surprise. > > Looping = Zen, BUT, his story repeats itself. LOOP wisely lol From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 17 19:41:55 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 077B4183497; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 19:41:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 812741016/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.28.75/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.28.75 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoQGAAN8V1BYbRxL/2dsb2JhbAANN44FrRQBAgEBAoQoAQEEOEARLBYPCQMCAQIBRRwBrnyTVYs5JiBPghyDHwOWdoQ5hU2Hbg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,438,1344207600"; d="scan'208";a="812741016" Message-ID: <50577D0F.6070503@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 20:42:07 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: andy butler live in London, Grand Finale References: <50524EA0.2080101@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <50524EA0.2080101@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1VZLJC.A.tyD.B03VQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118331 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 19:41:53 +0000 (UTC) Another except from September Tuesday's Post http://youtu.be/Hy7xMlv5j2s ...this one's influenced by the way loops are used in today's pop music... best bit is the odd percussion noises after the end, made by Michaels Peters....somehow andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 17 22:06:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5BAD9183498; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 22:06:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=k1V9OgFGgudKX7Xtinjhh5fCkFJl53vvV0QzvDCmXvU=; b=HKgQ0W59n24vFMn2/wiTirX+jQPi8JL5QP9+v1GHY7iBQwwkn+yFQlfxqs1XnAXcSL jN7C/Y5SON9FiWJQQdbYuY63qjGzdBKiPTIG9iDc01RhVguNvdeOJUkp0bcnI7aC5Geg okk4Zv9v9NZiu/RxT/AYV7beZRjIzO5TvC1qUwK9MvokD4PdC3ndNsjsVAu/ljAm3KBW LuIwtDJNkqXMq1JZ8IjknjkeBpf7fProuCv0cIg+cr4K4+D2f3VeeAZ/6vTlV3tCG+K4 +af9sKr3eBcsTvrxwQJh76fw8HOcfRJ1yYY+cY4LApE4C2nDnjMY+n8aNkdiV1QRlvh1 TCDg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <50577D0F.6070503@tiscali.co.uk> References: <50524EA0.2080101@tiscali.co.uk> <50577D0F.6070503@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 00:06:29 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: andy butler live in London, Grand Finale From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118332 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 22:06:30 +0000 (UTC) What fun! I like that piece. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 9:42 PM, andy butler wrote: > > Another except from September Tuesday's Post > > http://youtu.be/Hy7xMlv5j2s > > ...this one's influenced by the way loops are used in today's pop music... > > best bit is the odd percussion noises after the end, made by Michaels > Peters....somehow > > > > > > andy > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 18 01:30:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B17F1183461; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 01:30:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; bh=qgN/aK5JUGpXgRwW6s/BLBHWWoDuBz7D/C5bNkVxxkA=; b=VUZEfJShVpVlw0mGQ8OuvLbs/qieUMoKBb+8zZ/+BTTNDQq2A1m1vunMFh0qJIW22U yFRqQ29lqfIAEIkGF0ohI8ezfyFnmUtP5HJVsRiXP6iAmLXVVt9bmqXLeQJW5SROChi8 SPSiDrT3cjNlhlsmlppHyTxI1dzYAVDY1VolM5mepL5wk5MM79eehRePZf8tqnslpGBc FtlWKrhLOKCXmdxMGInkRBg8FDoBQ8+Y+1FvoHRGcPm4IptlJwIPA+yFTlnWKuPUuAW2 xcMLPWpu69v1GfUGmcKQmMBL7o24RbsT9yuCLY01WiVkFq2MUcKjdH5GUGLZ2S8/us8x 61Pg== Message-Id: <693E9422-84DB-4E46-B992-69D44DAB0F41@gmail.com> From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-257426313 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Repetition Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:30:13 -0700 References: <2E16866F-FA8E-448C-99F6-F3ABBD61D928@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118333 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 01:30:19 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-257426313 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sep 17, 2012, at 4:29 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > since this music is just like a room in the way that its > outer borders do not change. The change you might experience is all > taking place inside your own consciousness. Nicely put. BobC http://soundcloud.com/rpcollier http://rpcollier.bandcamp.com/album/platz http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j --Apple-Mail-1-257426313 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sep 17, 2012, = at 4:29 AM, Per Boysen wrote:

 since this music is just = like a room in the way that its
outer borders do not change. The = change you might experience is all
taking place inside your own = consciousness.


Nicely = put.


BobC



= --Apple-Mail-1-257426313-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 18 06:25:48 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18BF318345D; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 06:25:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1347949546; bh=w69qDDtse+UNAmx7pWhHuxX7zxY8H4NbNiW0+WdljM8=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-Id:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer; b=tXHcPK0xz9W2lRlaW4YmE1YBB3AWRm3SsXZgRHBz0rbqbB2l0b02O8grhil6AeHvR4jqI87ihp9DZmvkMuJHO7hCICUO7xwAIqRvgOrtU/GOpUICuJhv9tuMiiJNIX1fPu0PKmsCBCRXv+BrxXjpeOD5cCZ8pj1UFCL1D69WLKU= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 105369.8311.bm@smtp103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: c3eBbgQVM1mp_TqyEMxEqxNiuzBXJUUStE3FnjonkBjUmHT 0PKKfrXHl6MYP3j58OptJ9kwiJIYg6BDB9eSXQI02SF3zlDUcmPU.dM_qvFx 4C9HApHSozZQgTuN5Ms.3ogxBT2xD9v83ZCKOa0.uLS5ld9EPHk_vTbapiJl KvqXJ_oAqR1Fwjbmg0KybXdUGHcakC3mnRgUW4k13X3l8.kmTP_JMe9jkprw SzpuynyiD6rRq9rnlryhGbQLGn6jj932PH7DuNgyTRaCozGe8lTvhhXAKxhr 8mTssABZhII3lbtESpq1pBAC2Qn7.GjETJQU0V7VBh4EkLZl6wtz9myngOcB CjC77cn0EpkMPLLwVFKWXGO6QMrPBbBn0.D7BQbBtPRij0rNoq0bj71wR7oN TswVZ764MY7GCkU15l.tCOSnNzcAuFf1I0uxY2WoBh6.GgRMCP6ue_08bXHE 97i6UCwI.1tZP_6BBKliuiCjHdk8CuDQdgE4QBDoqmt2kGcoEq0DqSisbFN0 _CM60kJUktyg_Ix666MfkpQ-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: 75CdczOswBChen.W3AbLhaW8TlC96TVo5w-- From: Ben To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 08:25:45 +0200 Subject: TC Electronic Flashback X 4 Delay And Looper Message-Id: <20120918082545.2ADB7CC0.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: nPOPuk Ver 2.16 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118334 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 06:25:47 +0000 (UTC) Hello, I don't know if this is old news for some of you but I just found this today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KqdMAaVRiA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWPjjlfRp5A Ben. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 18 10:29:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0ED0A18345E; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 10:29:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_e26ca752-5606-4b43-9803-85e08878db6f_" X-Originating-IP: [217.92.117.212] From: Sergio G Sender: To: Subject: RE: TC Electronic Flashback X 4 Delay And Looper Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 10:29:13 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20120918082545.2ADB7CC0.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> References: <20120918082545.2ADB7CC0.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Sep 2012 10:29:13.0704 (UTC) FILETIME=[72C24E80:01CD9588] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118335 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 10:29:14 +0000 (UTC) --_e26ca752-5606-4b43-9803-85e08878db6f_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable must be extremely new because they do not even have it in their own website= =2C unless I am still sleeping. And in Thomann.de either=2C they still do not sell it.I will need a looper = and delay with batteries in the future=2C to perform on the streets with a = friend of mine.This unfortunately doesn't seem battery operated. > From: benoitruelle@yahoo.fr > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tue=2C 18 Sep 2012 08:25:45 +0200 > Subject: TC Electronic Flashback X 4 Delay And Looper=20 >=20 > Hello=2C >=20 > I don't know if this is old news for some of you but I just found this > today: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D1KqdMAaVRiA > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbWPjjlfRp5A >=20 >=20 > Ben. >=20 >=20 >=20 = --_e26ca752-5606-4b43-9803-85e08878db6f_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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= --_e26ca752-5606-4b43-9803-85e08878db6f_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 18 12:29:54 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A5057183462; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:29:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ggzAb/gEq8H3fHxSyAObcYS2JzhGnt+MkxxLJr+KX8M=; b=LCjzWO2nMnG2chFFoxXPFQrW/THUwtsERph68esoohidyYT+SlF65r9Rb3sjRPw2xQ pEi3xsv6yZaAAU2omnXUYuPgoFnD/v8VU+3m+O/BzmwprYEtEFkRbtxHll6sZiGF8h+n 7YpsQFo9liJI+Kl4Hdp0vdcdubUG+oqR+S1M+AYMPUTetX8EDAp5dlt/Y42DR+8icJQv HMwdzsNqOQqEIqv+N+XMHDju/6dROcK+aKkrRCqgYs5iOVySfmF9dO2wVgryj44rJO0e /x8KtNorvQPuShcL0pgzEjRCXJB9cdi1m2BAvt+kGkP4XnoAuVMdyLGhL0tEQmSzvdml ElCQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <50524EA0.2080101@tiscali.co.uk> <50577D0F.6070503@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:29:53 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: andy butler live in London, Grand Finale From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8ff2567c0fa78704c9f90c63 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118336 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:29:54 +0000 (UTC) --e89a8ff2567c0fa78704c9f90c63 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Fun, and well executed. Nice to see this set again. -f 2012/9/18 Per Boysen > What fun! I like that piece. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 9:42 PM, andy butler > wrote: > > > > Another except from September Tuesday's Post > > > > http://youtu.be/Hy7xMlv5j2s > > > > ...this one's influenced by the way loops are used in today's pop > music... > > > > best bit is the odd percussion noises after the end, made by Michaels > > Peters....somehow > > > > > > > > > > > > andy > > > > --e89a8ff2567c0fa78704c9f90c63 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Fun, and well executed.
Nice to see this set again.

-f

2012/9/18 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
What fun! I like that piece.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.youtube.com/perboysen


On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 9:42 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
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--e89a8ff2567c0fa78704c9f90c63-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 18 12:45:55 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B6A418345E; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:45:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=3cyXXMukwY7myiRa6lRsl19buBi1M1aTG5MRubqJyPk=; b=zrM1jIC40bpuYagUFb5tCGt62HyVDKi4oA8zMfRnrSTx91DaxuknO2NREoAeDsrtc8 Im76G4VmNlxj2IJxl2v1p7oluGZ4m8YfV47OLmN8mzjLmOq5W91EOUlk2cQTbSCVWjGJ HNsbMEbzkXiq6/l8a89/UlpEvW/BM+5gOVIxwOx4vr9MCzVALGckAHBDFwFWzYmuT9di gk5FbSNJkgNgj2vCWRiRCI3YV2I3WsdJY4Nxj55Qw+cIa3AblJtpHPGKLRI1AaJ76I1Z xifKju069L9XTCXvH+bxCbCDrlM0pBu8yPl5FwPL6W/rRWphgvJYX/x6KZoVoJm22YKU dyvg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <50524EA0.2080101@tiscali.co.uk> <50577D0F.6070503@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:45:54 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: andy butler live in London, Grand Finale From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118337 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:45:54 +0000 (UTC) > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 9:42 PM, andy butler wrote: >> ...this one's influenced by the way loops are used in today's pop music.. Might be so, but even more I liked the influences from how guitars were used in the late sixties :-) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 18 13:47:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 169D618345C; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:47:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: Subject: OT Variax Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:47:01 +0200 Message-ID: <005501cd95a4$14fb6f90$3ef24eb0$@de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac2VpBSyWS946eaQQUGOsk9kFudv1Q== Content-Language: de Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118338 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:47:08 +0000 (UTC) anyone tried NST on a Variax? I just did, in a shop, and was intrigued - = it would make my playing life easier, having to switch between tunings, = sometimes quickly, and needing at least two guitars for that. Now, if it = had midi and a sustainer ... I wonder if it can be done and if anyone = has tried? -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 18 14:05:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0FFF183463; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:05:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; bh=MsmNq5g3suqjwDiQyS/h/9WsdrsuhbJoQkRXdpVZ9go=; b=0sglguRX0MBUeZ9R3rpbPnZnJ0xItpbJkEZc+P8p339T2+sDhk2pACpBkVf3g0NnaQ HDdQ5j0Zl28govB2CljP6e1t0I0dKEPI6TtMZdgt8MJoZKlgHCb1sIB/RjaUk3OqotPt 3Ct3Z8UImzZLrTIHfyohWXfG+oBU8Ne736oUEmkaW3qyXIJxeFSdQ9wotEQVun1ZGVYZ 7QDGbr837eWNXUSogoVRWGpMnHEzxIpo0gI4FEpTLbk+TvC5F232W16oNYNWGtKZl/9P NG3FrWH7Mu1i1uRFK4+XmL5vaE2tVqZccmXARm1i4D0gg5VjYhbyDx/U7riDn278hpiS QSJQ== Message-Id: From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <005501cd95a4$14fb6f90$3ef24eb0$@de> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-302729176 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT Variax Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 07:05:16 -0700 References: <005501cd95a4$14fb6f90$3ef24eb0$@de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118339 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:05:21 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-302729176 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sep 18, 2012, at 6:47 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > Now, if it had midi and a sustainer ... I wonder if it can be done > and if anyone has tried? Isn't one of the Moog guitars capable of midi, sustain and tuning selection? BobC http://soundcloud.com/rpcollier http://rpcollier.bandcamp.com/album/platz http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j --Apple-Mail-1-302729176 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sep 18, 2012, = at 6:47 AM, Michael Peters wrote:

Now, if it = had midi and a sustainer ... I wonder if it can be done and if anyone = has tried?


Isn't one of the Moog = guitars capable of midi, sustain and tuning = selection?



BobC



= --Apple-Mail-1-302729176-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 18 14:24:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 62905183461; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:24:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=qU9vTENroOq2s6i9/sTxZt9WOCoWX/XGfIT3Tj8F8dQ= c=1 sm=1 a=ZNpbJiLNAGoA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=UncmS/Am0Fgh8c8TZh5eWA==:17 a=5819yBVlAAAA:8 a=Xsdu6QUMGEWZvMZ_D0oA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=R1X7-9woalUA:10 a=UncmS/Am0Fgh8c8TZh5eWA==:117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: OT Variax (with sustainer) From: Ted Killian In-Reply-To: <005501cd95a4$14fb6f90$3ef24eb0$@de> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 07:24:10 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <29CE3B1E-92C5-4162-897F-CF4EED78CE8D@charter.net> References: <005501cd95a4$14fb6f90$3ef24eb0$@de> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118340 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:24:12 +0000 (UTC) If you like sustainers that much, there is the Sustainiac Model C floor = unit that essentially makes it possible to have a Sustainer on any = guitar you own (as long as it is electric and has a headstock for the = clamp-on transducer). I have owned Sustainiacs of this variety (actually the earlier Model B) = for years, and although the extra cable can be a nuisence, the things = can be made to work quite well with any guitar and the sustain more = dynamic - like real amp feeback. On Sep 18, 2012, at 6:47 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > anyone tried NST on a Variax? I just did, in a shop, and was intrigued = - it would make my playing life easier, having to switch between = tunings, sometimes quickly, and needing at least two guitars for that. = Now, if it had midi and a sustainer ... I wonder if it can be done and = if anyone has tried? >=20 > -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 18 14:28:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9B92183461; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:28:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:28:18 +0100 From: Philip Conway To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Variax (with sustainer) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <29CE3B1E-92C5-4162-897F-CF4EED78CE8D@charter.net> References: <005501cd95a4$14fb6f90$3ef24eb0$@de> <29CE3B1E-92C5-4162-897F-CF4EED78CE8D@charter.net> Originator-Info: login-token=Mulberry:01cXWiOeHY2mtvqOiisubZB6ewoxGcn+GiFauypAqhp+SjA5xq6xM=; token_authority=mailto:postmaster@bristol.ac.uk X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118341 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:28:20 +0000 (UTC) I've thought about getting one of those before. Good to hear that they work well. Coincidentally, I was just listening to 'Musette and Drums' by the Cocteau Twins - that song always makes me fantasise about owning a sustainer guitar! It blows my little mind. --On 18 September 2012 07:24 -0700 Ted Killian wrote: > If you like sustainers that much, there is the Sustainiac Model C floor > unit that essentially makes it possible to have a Sustainer on any guitar > you own (as long as it is electric and has a headstock for the clamp-on > transducer). > > > > I have owned Sustainiacs of this variety (actually the earlier Model B) > for years, and although the extra cable can be a nuisence, the things can > be made to work quite well with any guitar and the sustain more dynamic - > like real amp feeback. > > On Sep 18, 2012, at 6:47 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > >> anyone tried NST on a Variax? I just did, in a shop, and was intrigued - >> it would make my playing life easier, having to switch between tunings, >> sometimes quickly, and needing at least two guitars for that. Now, if it >> had midi and a sustainer ... I wonder if it can be done and if anyone >> has tried? >> >> -Michael > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 18 15:06:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB71D183460; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:06:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: RE: TC Electronic Flashback X 4 Delay And Looper Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 08:06:37 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118342 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:06:44 +0000 (UTC) I saw one of these in Barry Cleveland's office at Guitar Player magazine, a week ago. According to him they are in prototype stage and not yet released so I'm wondering how that dude got his mitts on one. Barry said they were trying to make a DL-4 killer.... murderous bastards...... Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 18 15:28:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0787618345D; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:28:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=km6gFF9DCYO1EAOGkXP3JnW2EazRbzaTYXTLdojZyXg=; b=vNYH3lWzOqptmV1nRg7OdZN6sFFDGvrKfJpZDOZldH9NatBF9FaJNZZsH5ozN9MSrE HM/YE3TK1yb9Lfobz6+/n3Vdsl+xFctnOIB2lNe0Ic7SqapPMZ1aFqHlpxbENOLW1xnl 1S2tno/7+w3bRvn042bK4WT9lVmUk7ylh/a4HkorV5IeN8tMJD1RUIAzThGILtcyjJo1 ToR5VxknFg7v+9NTU769KTw/q4eW5We532nuC879IEbfcd/c01F1EesG/oGYZj+RhGH2 uGxezBlWmF+uxvbUel1iEVtAit1d+Ioc8/L6FcDS/Ea0e0KB9DihqjOKx+NLcdOsjA84 6E9g== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 17:28:49 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: TC Electronic Flashback X 4 Delay And Looper From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118343 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:28:49 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 5:06 PM, William Walker wrote: > Barry said they were trying to make a DL-4 killer.... murderous > bastards...... Pedal Zombie Wars, given the DL4 was killed by its maker long ago ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 18 17:10:34 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA68B183460; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 17:10:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 95826.47688.bm@omp1009.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1347988233; bh=28/ccJQ4VohOV4iZTXC1NQftO67BJ/yIARKJZoGYXV4=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LzZDTf9L+1EgeUrpOxeHEOZUu7hJ8wvlL6MH3p38lbNAq0VuAC+Y2DYaHKFtRkCyAhMZLm27fkg/JeyhbAAb3pN1Rt7/PYmYc2HRytZeUQJxTZw91WhLbdIN95yYmYP1HvFMrBznfyekfU5BDVAhSb6msgz78nDCMQOBpxGrtCU= X-YMail-OSG: iPlE7m8VM1kBBH_egiOPxIrXYyhcZh2ZxthQbTRxsnVMCUe Qlq9XPiiCHQNL7exWsCKurbk7SVptucc9jTwPTr4hMjjcxEzOZdMhydlmghP FYyt.Vay6SPYkYsuwEmuMxZ2meLPJjG5YHr8IyAU8virxPmBqdRXlt.COK4a WSmWI1Jk8xLAo_VnFrJF21g1g.pkRYJt3INUJxyJQ2gY12l2WeS8pL7ibnxL 06ZFPb0eLfBJf7z_sDSDH169SGXQbz.9SXSwu9COT1bTU9uqWpJZ9xt3JiTR 6N2DoaJfDZ_84tOatX5S940M_gGDFwpVODsZefzYSqfhRFtfS_UuydPFJ08j kVt0HzEnw_aO7QDrKe.dtrnRMPWekXXvHloBl0dD.0Mewg_XTaqJVpQ46bmw jQTuOB4CyJTuzN7K7xrcORrBrn2Mo7GomR2e44fdrZF_VzIcsZTgIjjk6oyq vlOJLJibryF40YssyKK8Wtw9O7EH2RvlH2NodCVCji81viS8Ci8QUroHceyd UrWZtIhyv65MxKeHt0Ljv2SQt6I_zCzGjjLSFPTupPA0ARQavAIpGpaSDxU_ t3YhzZ6VUq_V9ihrgihmzUOuMIGnUiNN6vypzc5s7dqFhDttRdmPezn6q7JA GCEJI5ceI6JF4apofxscxx331RSmVLi6yIcr3 X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 Message-ID: <1347988233.13736.YahooMailClassic@web84508.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 10:10:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Mungenast Subject: Re: andy butler live in London, Grand Finale To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118344 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 17:10:34 +0000 (UTC) "even more I liked the influences from how guitars were used in the late sixties" I have to check out this clip! (Can't fire it up at work.) My schtick, when I loop, is to combine the "future boy" aspect of digital looping with classic-rock timbres. Tim Mungenast Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast --- On Tue, 9/18/12, Per Boysen wrote: > From: Per Boysen > Subject: Re: andy butler live in London, Grand Finale > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, September 18, 2012, 8:45 AM > > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 9:42 PM, > andy butler > wrote: > > >> ...this one's influenced by the way loops are used > in today's pop music.. > > Might be so, but even more I liked the influences from how > guitars > were used in the late sixties :-) > > Per > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 18 18:08:26 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 937A0183461; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 18:08:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 417840.84690.bm@omp1014.mail.bf1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1347991705; bh=OBLgDoC+EDc1n1ntdlcuFUOoIlMnYND3JNF32MjYgtQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QY6TBXUT9f41WjfCTxO3ExO/raaYBBlTNeRrFFNzBZ/2vV5gGZPrA0SoflLY6bRXhg0IliAJVC2GT1fZTvv+p7i037zz9irG7cqfm3R3U+AwaNW0nUg7tuvFUH2MaeAXgyMdJa/z8y7qMK0mXotxT/9zwWRYFaFJa0LuxslC0cU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=j3m/20UwayO3IhbiAUs0nFN3R2C8Ooe5MTgLWmoC/YVm1uATjp8RbmWxk9EOg3OStTGnpKYBG6LJbO0Brg3mDJRXFzKhntKKdZyGVoJhBcoqzrYWVRSEpPqYM0GuKPX/wX4MWjn8SrpGWdR83j6zQmCYxuLYVaNymoyZTlhx3/I=; X-YMail-OSG: zcsrPyYVM1n9L7bT61XRDnMYIg28j8Jrv2s3.aXkq9BF66W pLjRVv6E.MF0kI2tvCZILdHxgGqTR3Vm33S5rffkKZFTB8O2CgMMEeohR77T Hg0waErPfX135a4hcUIuo5vo9GxgtE7Qnyj64V3MFrCHfG_LbYWvsgvse4eN _.BuOKLXzfGXSnsneUI72TkiQiMKPmfct7Lugfx.C0P_duguxdfqkxwcV4L2 atTHA8DEx6ropAw1nE0ZwwNtn_MSV5.an2h0c30h_ORANWE026mPRqtTVMN4 dkI4mpadYOWpq1JdMyOHj0QROdJDuLDPvu2X7g2tGj8aSCJ6UQ2jnk.q28A8 LDdjk0uRa.zq8ebVOJpjlMYbhHfxADsdrN5mrU7ksoAo4tzBJE3ryB.E6wOO cQRx9rE1Kba9hDjq4.RVl57SRIWk2eT59XkQDE1zGyNZMxA_XdRL7bZUDzJ2 moVjwjbXn9r.7XpsQTH1t0NHlXD_0v80ZtUnNTXo5Yj.Tnz2xVlzfjDqi3ZB tjLD0a930jWFL.xeO0tUKW3gpt8tiymMzIZVRBlG_3kb5kmJ3fDDURrYnQpG qq.qZknFWs2ZrWTQAG8P1TKFxv5qMkHLOW6vNZYB4yNKaqlOPKloy_Fx_f3h LabM- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 References: Message-ID: <1347991705.81613.YahooMailNeo@web162905.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:08:25 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Reply-To: ditch wrestler Subject: DL4 users jump ship? (was: TC Electronic Flashback X 4 Delay And Looper) To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-2143897565-873296721-1347991705=:81613" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118345 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 18:08:26 +0000 (UTC) ---2143897565-873296721-1347991705=:81613 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A=0A..and another sign of DL4 demise: Bill Frisell has been spotted with = an EH Hazari=0A=0Ahttp://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=3D11422= 36=0A=0AOf course, there's also an EH metal muff on the pedalboard in that = pic, so maybe he was at the EH factory=0A=0A=0A=0Athe other ted=0A=0A=A0=0A= Or would you sing somethin' different. Somethin' real. Somethin' *you* felt= . Cause I'm telling you right now, that's the kind of song people want to h= ear. That's the kind of song that truly saves people. It ain't got nothin t= o do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with believin' in yourse= lf. Sam Phillips, "Walk the Line"=0A=0A=0A_______________________________= _=0A From: William Walker =0ATo: loopers-delight@lo= opers-delight.com =0ASent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 11:06:37 AM=0ASubjec= t: RE: TC Electronic Flashback X 4 Delay And Looper=0A =0AI saw one of thes= e in Barry Cleveland's office at Guitar Player magazine, a week ago. Accord= ing to him they are in prototype stage and not yet released so I'm wonderin= g how that dude got his mitts on one. Barry said they were trying to make a= DL-4 killer.... murderous bastards......=0ABill ---2143897565-873296721-1347991705=:81613 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

.= .and another sign of DL4 demise: Bill Frisell has been spotted with an EH H= azari

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.= php?t=3D1142236

Of course, there's also an EH meta= l muff on the pedalboard in that pic, so maybe he was at the EH factory
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Or would you sing somethin' different. Somethi= n' real. Somethin' *you* felt. Cause I'm telling you right now, that's the = kind of song people want to hear. That's the kind of song that truly saves = people. It ain't got nothin to do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has t= o do with believin' in yourself. Sam Phillips, "Walk the Line"
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From: Wil= liam Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com>
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 = 11:06:37 AM
Subject: R= E: TC Electronic Flashback X 4 Delay And Looper

I sa= w one of these in Barry Cleveland's office at Guitar Player magazine, a wee= k ago. According to him they are in prototype stage and not yet released so= I'm wondering how that dude got his mitts on one. Barry said they were try= ing to make a DL-4 killer.... murderous bastards......
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---2143897565-873296721-1347991705=:81613-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 18 18:13:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE4BB183460; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 18:13:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5058B9B4.3040808@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:13:08 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: OT: Eivind Aarset Trio - Electromagnetic References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3iAGJD.A.PtH.7mLWQB@arsenic> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118346 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 18:13:15 +0000 (UTC) For the last three years, I've had a financial committment from a businessman I know to bring Eivind to California for the first time to perform at the loopfestival, but major funding for this guy's company has not arrived on time. I'm praying it will happen next year. I think he's an amazing and truly unique 'voice' in music and really admire him. Speaking of innovative and wonderful Norwegian musicians, it is Nils Petter Molvaer's birthday today! Rick Walker > On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 5:10 AM, Art Simon > wrote: > > Nice video of Eivind Aarset from "Oslo Jazzed Out" > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItadEw7RqXg From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 18 18:22:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1A9E183462; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 18:22:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5058BBCE.8000206@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:22:06 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Plea for Donations for the Y2K12 International Live Looping Festival Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118347 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 18:22:12 +0000 (UTC) The Y2K12 International Live Looping Festival will occur from Wednesday, October 17th through Monday, October 22nd in San Jose, Santa Cruz and San Francisco this year. Full lineups and concert listings will be coming shortly. We have an amazing lineup of 50 musicians (and several video artists) from 9 different countries including headliners, Joe Gore and John Whooley. As always, this festival is grass roots and runs on fumes, financially. Every year people in our community have graciously donated money so that the hard working volunteer staff can at least receive honorariums for there up to 72 hours of hard and sometimes, continuous work. We also use money for transporting the artists, housing them, renting the venues, renting equipment, etc., etc. If you have the financial wherewithal, it would be awesome if you could donate some money to the festival. The *Y2K12 Loopfestival Donation paypal address* is * **looppool@cruzio.com* If you can, please put *"Y2K12 LOOPFEST"* donation into your 'message' with any donation and thanks, on behalf of all the artists thanks so much for your generosity and support. This community is amazing! Rick Walker Y2K12 International Live Looping Festival From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 18 18:48:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44D0718345E; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 18:48:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <50524EA0.2080101@tiscali.co.uk> <50577D0F.6070503@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: andy butler live in London, Grand Finale In-Reply-To: <50577D0F.6070503@tiscali.co.uk> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: michael klobuchar X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CF63E55B4116A5_FD0_238E0_webmail-stg-d15.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37001-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CF63E55B379121-FD0-9100@webmail-stg-d15.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [216.16.213.7] Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:48:41 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1347994121; bh=1SwF//SFC1XkFlfDsjoXAUPXY9LrPq6yOrUK3z7uRvs=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ONAAEXMBi6nMeGxsaQSkbK6AabH94jQhK2HwR+8x6LqDTiMWsjYUyw9MTAnFguuTv eVY39i058C5CoIu3xLaRpmTtRIBrrUNYE7imtxHCkvlmGnEhOR6p8DtDsvEDP4lPLR CSa4ElmHucW9qZ27LGk09kiQrjPDRJAUwnlXV+GE= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:324271136:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338e5058c2095290 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118348 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 18:48:47 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CF63E55B4116A5_FD0_238E0_webmail-stg-d15.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" like the music.....love the pants http://youtu.be/Hy7xMlv5j2s andy B =20 ----------MB_8CF63E55B4116A5_FD0_238E0_webmail-stg-d15.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" like the music.....love the pants


 ----------MB_8CF63E55B4116A5_FD0_238E0_webmail-stg-d15.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 18 18:53:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCA46183460; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 18:53:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=z+VgW3xSwkKDY8UCi7DSCtddBQuxRWGIuD07ob6gNXo=; b=wGmHMyRsMFONS2SB4Nz3mXRnsvUu/FO2Zs/cFfC9PDX2T3E457A476DcrLMpgGP+eN RzRze9apCmiYYl78vjhJRvPrZpy9FVYGA2If2t4Y0STRVco9ocoW/eEmyot06362CgAN mFOKpqXXtYVf1OyNFj0jzQeEIF19LJvqA/ozX8TyLS4GJALY1i9kVPOz8UgXrriBtGN2 yZBKSkl4s24vA0ldlfsnMs6I/KOxD5T4AmSrkYUPDPW4x+iuGkXs9MBQCn/lgGiVe8o/ s7/kO5N+ern1Wos118ZbI0s5DDfqjBtGcIR0ZzBcFkPU/4xRQO8I8OLqxrDpg5iU8siH HyEw== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: my two sets at penarth From: Simeon Harris In-Reply-To: <5050D9F4.3050706@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:58:27 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3CF68788-0E0F-4E42-B98B-0740DFC5895D@googlemail.com> References: <971B2B71-DAF3-47B5-BAC8-01172C9AAD6A@gmail.com> <504C7984.2060202@tiscali.co.uk>, <5050D9F4.3050706@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118349 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 18:53:23 +0000 (UTC) for those of you not in the facebook group... i completely forgot to record my audio, so it's camera audio, i'm = afraid...but you get the idea... also had a go at doing some video editing...just crossfading between the = two cameras...almost fried my tired old brain trying to figure out how = to do it... :O) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DD9gNOHoOLuc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXAx8qtT9mtw= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 18 21:59:19 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D53E8183461; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:59:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=aZvZDDBnoBJdoxoBob6kyE8kMBVXHQdajfEt5nrl0BU=; b=O1S9D9f3TfW3d3vTMDWmiy59m0s3BsRZF7k7QMk7UEkssP10BTBamwpfAM4N+HS99z 6dKBRnKDzqDdhUzMZPEeO0qvIk+AaA9xY4IrmswoS/PIG0hv4GKqrUBZV22PYZWIjizC dEhrFlaxSBITjZUiNbWkiDthph/yn17O3JZJYXzz6aoD5naYe4aLnJi/Ayz6SjzTSE2a X6eNX+ChfXarbMkNOTTFMaBJoqRc1wboa7UHssDblFZj43IuCZoDvJ0JPtABpIFnLRMb wBpFxSuuv4NIEZsVuQRLtDpHnIQfnntiHEsDT45TY3BkXGDzNklcGkdlTCu8bOlzRi6M /nTw== Subject: Re: TC Electronic Flashback X 4 Delay And Looper References: <20120918082545.2ADB7CC0.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> From: Torben Scharling Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-35BAD40A-5E39-4BD3-829D-6B0C14E4DD24 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <2A53DB5B-87DF-443C-A4CB-CAF9BC8368FB@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 00:02:38 +0200 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118350 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:59:19 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-35BAD40A-5E39-4BD3-829D-6B0C14E4DD24 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yes it's brand new and that guy was the first to get his hand on it for vide= o reviewing purposes, according to their FB page.=20 Looks like I'm not the only one that needs battery power options for street p= erformance. I have yet to find a simple, portable, relatively cheap solution= ....Any (DIY) suggestions? My idea is to get a scooter battery or something,= as it's too limiting buying battery powered gear only. What do campers and s= uch do? =20 On 18/09/2012, at 12.29, Sergio G wrote: > must be extremely new because they do not even have it in their own websit= e, unless I am still sleeping. > And in Thomann.de either, they still do not sell it. > I will need a looper and delay with batteries in the future, to perform on= the streets with a friend of mine. > This unfortunately doesn't seem battery operated. >=20 --Apple-Mail-35BAD40A-5E39-4BD3-829D-6B0C14E4DD24 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Yes it's brand new and that guy was the first to get his hand on it for video reviewing purposes, according to their FB page. 

Looks like I'm not the only one that needs battery power options for street performance. I have yet to find a simple, portable, relatively cheap solution....Any (DIY) suggestions? My idea is to get a scooter battery or something, as it's too limiting buying battery powered gear only. What do campers and such do?  

On 18/09/2012, at 12.29, Sergio G <simpliflying@gmail.com> wrote:

must be extremely new because they do not even have it in their own website, unless I am still sleeping.
And in Thomann.de either, they still do not sell it.
I will need a looper and delay with batteries in the future, to perform on the streets with a friend of mine.
This unfortunately doesn't seem battery operated.

--Apple-Mail-35BAD40A-5E39-4BD3-829D-6B0C14E4DD24-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 19 00:01:57 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7377A183453; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 00:01:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_a8b61270-708a-4b19-992b-2bd909c16e5c_" X-Originating-IP: [92.228.254.84] From: Sergio G Sender: To: Subject: RE: TC Electronic Flashback X 4 Delay And Looper Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 00:01:51 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <2A53DB5B-87DF-443C-A4CB-CAF9BC8368FB@gmail.com> References: <20120918082545.2ADB7CC0.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> ,<2A53DB5B-87DF-443C-A4CB-CAF9BC8368FB@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2012 00:01:52.0477 (UTC) FILETIME=[F940A0D0:01CD95F9] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118351 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 00:01:57 +0000 (UTC) --_a8b61270-708a-4b19-992b-2bd909c16e5c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Personally=2C as I am a singer (or sort of) I think I will go for a Boss VE= -20 unless somebody here can suggest me another battery operated looper wit= h input for Mic=2C and with effects (which I use a lot).I would have loved = it to have also delay (just got echo)=2C wahwah=2C eq or at least octave do= wn/up=2C and some other cool effect instead of all those useless presets li= ke rock=2C hard rock=2C pop=2C which sound all the same with a slightly dif= ferent reverb. Especially considering that you cannot combine effects as fa= r as I understood=2C so a stupid effect alone is really stupid.And I do not= like boss.And red is not a good color.And I am joking.Still=2C if somebody= knows another option=2C let me know.The Lil looper looks interesting thoug= h.But I like more the effects on the Boss (I use strobo and echo and flange= r pretty much=2C and those harmonizer even if I am 100% they will sound art= ificial=2C are still a nice trick).And the Vox has got only one input=2C so= I cannot loop me and my friend (guitar) at same time. Ser Subject: Re: TC Electronic Flashback X 4 Delay And Looper From: torbenscharling@gmail.com Date: Wed=2C 19 Sep 2012 00:02:38 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Yes it's brand new and that guy was the first to get his hand on it for vid= eo reviewing purposes=2C according to their FB page.=20 Looks like I'm not the only one that needs battery power options for street= performance. I have yet to find a simple=2C portable=2C relatively cheap s= olution....Any (DIY) suggestions? My idea is to get a scooter battery or so= mething=2C as it's too limiting buying battery powered gear only. What do c= ampers and such do? =20 On 18/09/2012=2C at 12.29=2C Sergio G wrote: must be extremely new because they do not even have it in their own website= =2C unless I am still sleeping. And in Thomann.de either=2C they still do not sell it.I will need a looper = and delay with batteries in the future=2C to perform on the streets with a = friend of mine.This unfortunately doesn't seem battery operated. =20 = --_a8b61270-708a-4b19-992b-2bd909c16e5c_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Personally=2C as I am a singer (or sort of) I think I will go for a Boss VE= -20 unless somebody here can suggest me another battery operated looper wit= h input for Mic=2C and with effects (which I use a lot).
I would have l= oved it to have also delay (just got echo)=2C wahwah=2C eq or at least octa= ve down/up=2C and some other cool effect instead of all those useless prese= ts like rock=2C hard rock=2C pop=2C which sound all the same with a slightl= y different reverb. Especially considering that you cannot combine effects = as far as I understood=2C so a stupid effect alone is really stupid.
<= div>And I do not like boss.
And =3Bred is not a good color.
And I am joking.
Still=2C if somebody knows another opti= on=2C let me know.
The =3BLil looper looks interesting though= .
But I like more the effects on the Boss (I use strobo and echo = and flanger pretty much=2C and those harmonizer even if I am 100% they will= sound artificial=2C are still a nice trick).
And the Vox has got= only one =3Binput=2C so I cannot loop me and my friend (guitar) at sam= e time.

Ser
Subject: Re: TC Electronic Flashback X 4 De= lay And Looper
From: torbenscharling@gmail.com
Date: Wed=2C 19 Sep 20= 12 00:02:38 +0200
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Ye= s it's brand new and that guy was the first to get his hand on it for video= reviewing purposes=2C according to their FB page. =3B

Looks like I'm not the only one that needs battery power options f= or street performance. I =3Bhave yet to find a simple=2C portable=2C re= latively cheap solution....A= ny (DIY) suggestions? My idea is to get a scooter battery or something=2C a= s it's too limiting buying battery powered gear only. What do campers and s= uch do?  =3B

On 18/09/2012=2C at 12.29=2C Sergio G= <=3Bsimpliflying@gmail.com= >=3B wrote:

must be extremely new because they do not even have it in their own website= =2C unless I am still sleeping.
And =3Bin Thomann.de either=2C they still do not sell = it.
I will need a looper and delay with batteries in the future= =2C to perform on the streets with a friend of mine.
This =3B= unfortunately doesn't seem battery operated.

= --_a8b61270-708a-4b19-992b-2bd909c16e5c_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 19 14:18:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 009A3183466; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:18:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=OL7CkVG6n/eTnEzg4aIYgzGFDl8QnnDF0GZ/zJ9AEjo=; b=KDHUqDf0VUVWxzCnrC8lADvbPHiB3VdXqQmU4X71Lm2VDPV9QS79RR2qH1/aNbGX0g ianJRQZxITq7KHknElwrVG6m8bDmuYh/VBpyuCsncfn6V9xsM7zQNdWrkTbPd45z5g6o U8L1I+N17Zbtd3bLjozzCvZe7CB2DcOvJLh89ey4ursE5qiao95YrBQH0ehpnTQggWLJ 3qkvIwl7aGL5mILFKp9eCj+vBCMO9RreUokIsvZnbz6W2YAYTkX5RDnM4yEv+VnQ/KDr ZTqE4PM/TpC9lCLk7yTMiEtVQcqLs2yzqEGTxlAA72UdYKBHjRDaJA4j9AU9BKzc3JBX TKhA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:18:22 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: WTNqw61aCCqP42xz0nQKXu-u7CY Message-ID: Subject: Paulstretch To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b34372a1372c004ca0eaff3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118352 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:18:43 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b34372a1372c004ca0eaff3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Not sure if this is of any interest for people here, but I just found a funky little program that can stretch your mp3 files to ridiculous lengths... Its called Paulstretch and theres a link for it here: http://music.cornwarning.com/2011/12/07/new-paulstretch-os-x-build/ I just spent a fun a 20 minutes listening to Yellow Submarine stretched to 20 minutes... -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ --047d7b34372a1372c004ca0eaff3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not sure if this is of any interest for people here, but I just found a fun= ky little program that can stretch your mp3 files to ridiculous lengths...<= br>Its called Paulstretch and theres a link for it here:

http:/= /music.cornwarning.com/2011/12/07/new-paulstretch-os-x-build/

I just spent a fun a 20 minutes listening to Yellow Submarine stretched= to 20 minutes...


--
Mark Francombe=
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http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
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--047d7b34372a1372c004ca0eaff3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 19 14:47:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2CAB2183462; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:47:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=zft/vvDLpKyC5T35fbZIltmRn0sJ7IZAPoqZsDecn7E=; b=ceUrCd7XxVtOIyRHOapDcJXKpFCHkom6fi7f2EXAkyKPd8pDRq17HFpkLun/Nh23bt jG3DvAGt31naGyzDNbjnHix93/PLXl+Njx3hJ4u4XJo+GaGyP0GqKEpytNmUr6jZ4gOA tC5Y/40cHvCzlLydcRZ3efpbNf5J6lWqyl92IGeSMuQP8WXhRuzoiopNy7HJ3kV8MBlu ny6fjuwF79VOiBYiPh6464EPkkXiX7cA9uQ9ROv9loq2orIl0VsTvAgydJZH7TGHP1nA zqH4CN/Kq5oAGwfLXePYATbF4iDAgbAgin+e+LVHUEq4OFGyQGx75P0oLLjse5jNqvDL f7Zg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 10:47:03 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Paulstretch From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04089017725d8c04ca0f1402 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118353 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:47:04 +0000 (UTC) --f46d04089017725d8c04ca0f1402 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Been using Paulstretch for a long time! It is now even incorporated into Audacity! On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 10:18 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Not sure if this is of any interest for people here, but I just found a > funky little program that can stretch your mp3 files to ridiculous > lengths... > Its called Paulstretch and theres a link for it here: > > http://music.cornwarning.com/2011/12/07/new-paulstretch-os-x-build/ > > I just spent a fun a 20 minutes listening to Yellow Submarine stretched to > 20 minutes... > > > -- > *Mark Francombe* > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ > > --f46d04089017725d8c04ca0f1402 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Been using Paulstretch for a long time! It is now even incorporated into Au= dacity!

On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 10:18 AM,= mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
Not sure if this is of any interest for peop= le here, but I just found a funky little program that can stretch your mp3 = files to ridiculous lengths...
Its called Paulstretch and theres a link for it here:

http://music.cornwarning.com/2011/12/07/new-paulstretch-os-x-build= /

I just spent a fun a 20 minutes listening to Yellow Submarine stretched= to 20 minutes...


--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
<= /font>

--f46d04089017725d8c04ca0f1402-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 19 15:18:26 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A42F183463; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:18:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: OT Variax Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:18:21 +0200 Message-ID: <00cf01cd967a$01ff56a0$05fe03e0$@de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac2VpqDjM/wVuSHtSiiOJuiYboQ6SgA0zk5w Content-Language: de Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118354 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:18:25 +0000 (UTC) RP Collier wrote,=20 > Isn't one of the Moog guitars capable of midi, sustain and tuning = selection? that is quite possible, but I'm not capable of paying for it :) -Michael =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 19 15:26:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C329A183461; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:26:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <7D8D467E-9854-4866-B114-D597189B72BF@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-11-393984703 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: RE: TC Electronic Flashback X 4 Delay And Looper and Re: OT Variax Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 08:26:11 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118355 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:26:21 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-11-393984703 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Personally, as I am a singer (or sort of) I think I will go for a > Boss VE-20 unless somebody here can suggest me another battery > operated looper with input for Mic, and with effects (which I use a > lot). I would have loved it to have also delay (just got echo), > wahwah, eq or at least octave down/up, and some other cool effect > instead of all those useless presets like rock, hard rock, pop, > which sound all the same with a slightly different reverb. > Especially considering that you cannot combine effects as far as I > understood, so a stupid effect alone is really stupid. The Boss RC-30 would be better choice than the VE-20 for all the reasons you mentioned > Pedal Zombie Wars, given the DL4 was killed by its maker long ago ;-) Think again Per Boy still in production I believe > > Of course, there's also an EH metal muff on the pedalboard in that > pic, so maybe he was at the EH factory That would be my guess other Ted!!! > > Yes it's brand new and that guy was the first to get his hand on it > for video reviewing purposes, according to their FB page. really? so what makes that guy so special? > anyone tried NST on a Variax? I just did, in a shop, and was > intrigued - it would make my playing life easier, having to switch > between tunings, sometimes quickly, and needing at least two guitars > for that. Now, if it had midi and a sustainer ... I wonder if it can > be done and if anyone has tried? I tried the first generation variax and I found it kind of artificial sounding, but thats just me and my dinosaur taste A cheap fix if you are trying to retune a guitar with a floating tremolo is this device which can lock your trem in place for quick retuning, they work well on strat style trems and floyd rose trems too. http://www.allparts.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=tremol-no&x=27&y=13 > Isn't one of the Moog guitars capable of midi, sustain and tuning > selection? only sustain and midi option no tuning > > If you like sustainers that much, there is the Sustainiac Model C > floor unit that essentially makes it possible to have a Sustainer on > any guitar you own (as long as it is electric and has a headstock > for the clamp-on transducer). If i had the dough the thing Ted has is what I would buy. The Sustaniac ( que the flash dance video, there is Jennifer Beals pouring water on herself to the tune of, " She's a Sustaniac sustaniac on the floor...") I too am intrigued with this device and having seen Ted play using it a number of times I can attest that it is awesome sounding and very versatile without mucking up your basic sound also the ability to move it from one guitar to another more than makes up for the cable dangling from the headstock. Bill --Apple-Mail-11-393984703 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Personally, as I am a singer (or sort of) I think I will = go for a Boss VE-20 unless somebody here can suggest me another battery = operated looper with input for Mic, and with effects (which I use a = lot). I would have loved it to have also delay (just got echo), wahwah, = eq or at least octave down/up, and some other cool effect instead of all = those useless presets like rock, hard rock, pop, which sound all the = same with a slightly different reverb. Especially considering that you = cannot combine effects as far as I understood, so a stupid effect alone = is really stupid.

 The Boss RC-30 would be = better choice than  the VE-20 for all the reasons you = mentioned

Pedal Zombie Wars, given the DL4 was killed by its maker long = ago ;-)

 Think again Per Boy = still in production I believe

Of course, there's also an EH metal muff on the = pedalboard in that pic, so maybe he was at the EH = factory

That would be my guess other = Ted!!!

Yes it's brand new and that guy was the first to get his hand on = it for video reviewing purposes, according to their FB page. =  

really? so what makes that guy = so special?


anyone tried NST on a Variax? I just did, in = a shop, and was intrigued - it would make my playing life easier, having = to switch between tunings, sometimes quickly, and needing at least two = guitars for that. Now, if it had midi and a sustainer ... I wonder if it = can be done and if anyone has = tried?
 
 I tried the = first generation variax and I found it kind of artificial sounding, =  but thats just me and my dinosaur taste A cheap fix if you are = trying to retune a guitar with a floating tremolo is this device which = can lock your trem in place for quick retuning,  they work well on = strat style trems and floyd rose trems too. http://www.allparts.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=3Dtremo= l-no&x=3D27&y=3D13


Isn't one of the Moog = guitars capable of midi, sustain and tuning = selection?
only sustain and midi = option no tuning


If you like sustainers that much, there is = the Sustainiac Model C floor unit that essentially makes it possible to = have a Sustainer on any guitar you own (as long as it is electric and = has a headstock for the clamp-on = transducer).

 If i had the dough = the thing Ted has is what I would buy.  The Sustaniac  ( que = the flash dance video, there is Jennifer Beals pouring water on herself = to the tune of, " She's a Sustaniac sustaniac on the floor...")  I = too am intrigued with this device and having seen Ted play using it a = number of times I can attest that it is awesome sounding and very = versatile without mucking up your basic sound also the ability to move = it from one guitar to another more than makes up for the cable dangling = from the = headstock.


Bill
= --Apple-Mail-11-393984703-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 19 15:27:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26266183463; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:27:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; bh=amY5/yEdMxdbg1bMdZiMvq5GUDlr9sDJW+mQDgrwHdM=; b=N1seO74je9mMSr2/duexumJO1gbaLXH+c0/NbpVG5SUGjWFF7hfiF71KAN5Yay3IOm LNLJTEuHHQCBxjRBdxdGOTmYKmupUdaVVIs27C+pYkS4HjU2zmYuyauGaYCojFUGcC+G ql4mW0kXxXuSPvZ6CnVXaFGqupjkCNm48BExszPiYQUPJ2ALjdP702Z0NkBFMvPzCB/3 zLHdyXc/LAanDwoc7Ft4aNHHsRazYOzfj+1sh81Wi39Ouf9wecNP3ovuqE3swcqRk8UD FC06N6ALPMVf6m2Y6z1f/kRCTkL/0zqkaIX2AJcKbrxSvC+U53KPngBMWYldB3cv6DBM 6iVQ== Message-Id: From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <00cf01cd967a$01ff56a0$05fe03e0$@de> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-394071194 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT Variax Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 08:27:38 -0700 References: <00cf01cd967a$01ff56a0$05fe03e0$@de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <-bF2SC.A.o1D.vReWQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118356 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:27:43 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-394071194 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sep 19, 2012, at 8:18 AM, Michael Peters wrote: >> Isn't one of the Moog guitars capable of midi, sustain and tuning >> selection? > > that is quite possible, but I'm not capable of paying for it :) I can't afford one either. But the price may come down someday. And maybe there will be some deals like a take 2 years to pay with no interest for the first 12 months etc. Or some used ones will pop up on ebay. BobC --Apple-Mail-2-394071194 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sep 19, 2012, = at 8:18 AM, Michael Peters wrote:

Isn't one of the Moog guitars capable = of midi, sustain and tuning selection?

that is quite = possible, but I'm not capable of paying for it = :)



I = can't afford one either.

But the price may come = down someday.
And maybe there will be some deals like a take 2 = years to pay with no interest for the first 12 months etc.
Or = some used ones will pop up on = ebay.

BobC
= --Apple-Mail-2-394071194-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 19 15:53:04 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC678183463; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:53:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_33ffa496-800a-4914-87d6-0c539b0d3f17_" X-Originating-IP: [217.92.117.212] From: Sergio G Sender: To: Subject: RE: TC Electronic Flashback X 4 Delay And Looper and Re: OT Variax Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:52:56 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <7D8D467E-9854-4866-B114-D597189B72BF@baymoon.com> References: <7D8D467E-9854-4866-B114-D597189B72BF@baymoon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2012 15:52:58.0315 (UTC) FILETIME=[D72479B0:01CD967E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118357 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:53:03 +0000 (UTC) --_33ffa496-800a-4914-87d6-0c539b0d3f17_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable May I ask why? As a looper=2C I bet yes. But as a vocal effec= t processor=2C does not seem so. Well=2C as said=2C the VE has got lot of u= seless presets. Still=2C the doubler=2C the harmonies (yes=2C they will sou= nd artificial=2C but you can change effect in each overdub=2C so=2C imagine= a loop with some harmonies in one overdub=2C they will not sound so bad af= ter all)=2C strobo=2C robot=2C flanger=2C distorsion=2C radio=2C they are a= ll very cool effects which in the street can make people listen... What mak= e you opt more for the RC 30? while listening to him I was th= inking the same. Surely not his music skills :) (bad guy Sergio=2C you are = a bad guy) Ser = --_33ffa496-800a-4914-87d6-0c539b0d3f17_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<=3BThe Boss RC-30 would be bette= r choice than  =3Bthe VE-20 for all the reasons you mentioned>=3B
May I ask why? As a looper=2C I bet yes. But as a vocal effect proc= essor=2C does not seem so. Well=2C as said=2C the VE has got lot of useless= presets. Still=2C the doubler=2C the harmonies (yes=2C they will sound art= ificial=2C but you can change effect in each overdub=2C so=2C imagine a loo= p with some harmonies in one overdub=2C they will not sound so bad after al= l)=2C strobo=2C robot=2C flanger=2C distorsion=2C radio=2C they are all ver= y cool effects which in the street can make people listen... What make you = opt more for the RC 30?


<=3Breally? so what makes that guy so special?>=3B
while listening to him I was thinking the same. Surely not his music= skills :) (bad guy Sergio=2C you are a bad guy)

S= er
= --_33ffa496-800a-4914-87d6-0c539b0d3f17_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 19 16:58:29 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10517183462; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:58:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 895 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:58:28 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=AP5czJ3T5rEuG7AdiT2JpYrGX0QvoWi2RsTypp4eUSo= c=1 sm=2 a=bpnoF1vX7WYA:10 a=agWTFdhlyG4A:10 a=kZCaSYHnAAAA:8 a=AmuB-pcYAAAA:8 a=x9LQtntrAAAA:8 a=OUXYneDTAAAA:8 a=47JL5iKjAAAA:20 a=EXOjOdsmAAAA:20 a=uxM3QAf3NSQpL0OapngA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=9dKDUTTeGJsA:10 a=4g1Un4FPLDYA:10 a=k9XOtJXmrMMA:10 a=053Au2P4wpAA:10 a=2a-d7qSVZ9QWiBaQgmYA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 X-Telus-Outbound-IP: 64.180.206.105 From: richard sales Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-398057688 Subject: Re: my two sets at penarth - and comment on repetiton Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 09:34:04 -0700 In-Reply-To: <3CF68788-0E0F-4E42-B98B-0740DFC5895D@googlemail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <971B2B71-DAF3-47B5-BAC8-01172C9AAD6A@gmail.com> <504C7984.2060202@tiscali.co.uk>, <5050D9F4.3050706@tiscali.co.uk> <3CF68788-0E0F-4E42-B98B-0740DFC5895D@googlemail.com> Message-Id: <8E6D8976-8148-4A42-AC99-88854A33051C@glasswing.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118358 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:58:28 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-398057688 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Very very nice, Simeon. And for those talking about the value of repetition, which no musician = in any genre can deny the importance of, Simeon's music makes great use = of tension and release within the repetition, making it intriguing = without clobbering us. Repetition doesn't have to be boring at all. = The mind wanders but the tension and release draws it back to the music. = =20 All art is about the dance of tension and release, holding and releasing = the imagination. This takes skill and experience to pull off. Simeon does it extremely = well, like Bill Walker.=20 Are you doing most of that with the Axe FX? I've heard and commented on = your music on the Axe FX site I believe. You make this die hard vintage = tube amp freak reconsider the Axe FX.=20 Very nice.=20 I couldn't find a web site for you, which I find fairly stunning for a = man with such obvious technical chops. richard sales www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.goodnaturefarms.com On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > for those of you not in the facebook group... >=20 > i completely forgot to record my audio, so it's camera audio, i'm = afraid...but you get the idea... >=20 > also had a go at doing some video editing...just crossfading between = the two cameras...almost fried my tired old brain trying to figure out = how to do it... :O) >=20 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DD9gNOHoOLuc >=20 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXAx8qtT9mtw --Apple-Mail-2-398057688 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Very = very nice, Simeon.

And for those talking about the = value of repetition, which no musician in any genre can deny the = importance of, Simeon's music makes great use of tension and release = within the repetition, making it intriguing without clobbering us. =  Repetition doesn't have to be boring at all.  The mind = wanders but the tension and release draws it back to the music. =  

All art is about the dance of tension = and release, holding and releasing the = imagination.

This takes skill and experience to = pull off.  Simeon does it extremely well, like Bill = Walker. 

Are you doing most of that with = the Axe FX?  I've heard and commented on your music on the Axe FX = site I believe.  You make this die hard vintage tube amp freak = reconsider the Axe FX. 

Very = nice. 

I couldn't find a web site for you, = which I find fairly stunning for a man with such obvious technical = chops.

richard sales
<= font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38">www.richardsales.com
= www.goodnaturefarms.com=











On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Simeon Harris = wrote:

for those of you not in the facebook = group...

i completely forgot to record my audio, so it's camera = audio, i'm afraid...but you get the idea...

also had a go at = doing some video editing...just crossfading between the two = cameras...almost fried my tired old brain trying to figure out how to do = it... :O)

http://www.youtube.c= om/watch?v=3DD9gNOHoOLuc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXAx8q= tT9mtw

= --Apple-Mail-2-398057688-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 19 17:06:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E88E1183462; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:06:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=qgOl0fzYQEJRqAPRRCLGfPbcosBir8eFgzdmVukN8bs=; b=lwVDImYXzb9j74CDKh2xPSW5zPFWYVmoMenkP1kX2sSrG7mYzwLnbOpLpw1cdxe8Jd NfeENVaKvD3tA1jpp9ZWpBdob6qGze8XSy64r/U5nwTJLZ3jnyVpKCRHDOFREJxTWgav qgC9xcY/e9Ov5ti+P/9YG3VZKK/W6/EKAS8xcNqEFcY/RfOcLHfCObK2J9klad5vCKHk JuPh5xCtmzSicT6H9pUOrt5rtrGJf6FXYwzTJ15IWDDvQ0pazgvscLMmwegwMrW1+DUi tdVx1xBqZU9KIDtD68+OaTn1+7SI7qO84ZuCuAd7N36WNfIdBS2rr/WnGuLkyvzXDSar h0qQ== From: Simeon Harris Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-400314512 Subject: Re: my two sets at penarth - and comment on repetiton Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:11:41 +0100 In-Reply-To: <8E6D8976-8148-4A42-AC99-88854A33051C@glasswing.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <971B2B71-DAF3-47B5-BAC8-01172C9AAD6A@gmail.com> <504C7984.2060202@tiscali.co.uk>, <5050D9F4.3050706@tiscali.co.uk> <3CF68788-0E0F-4E42-B98B-0740DFC5895D@googlemail.com> <8E6D8976-8148-4A42-AC99-88854A33051C@glasswing.com> Message-Id: <53C8D2DD-2905-4BBE-8593-83D13A2BC7B8@googlemail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118359 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:06:37 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-400314512 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii thanks richard surprised you couldn't find my site - it's the first hit when you google = my name - www.simeonharris.co.uk for these pieces i'm using a combination of the axe fx, some plugins for = loop treatment and mobius, augustus looper and crossfade loop synth for = looping sim On 19 Sep 2012, at 17:34, richard sales wrote: > Very very nice, Simeon. >=20 > And for those talking about the value of repetition, which no musician = in any genre can deny the importance of, Simeon's music makes great use = of tension and release within the repetition, making it intriguing = without clobbering us. Repetition doesn't have to be boring at all. = The mind wanders but the tension and release draws it back to the music. = =20 >=20 > All art is about the dance of tension and release, holding and = releasing the imagination. >=20 > This takes skill and experience to pull off. Simeon does it extremely = well, like Bill Walker.=20 >=20 > Are you doing most of that with the Axe FX? I've heard and commented = on your music on the Axe FX site I believe. You make this die hard = vintage tube amp freak reconsider the Axe FX.=20 >=20 > Very nice.=20 >=20 > I couldn't find a web site for you, which I find fairly stunning for a = man with such obvious technical chops. >=20 > richard sales > www.glasswing.com > www.richardsales.com > www.hayleysales.com > www.goodnaturefarms.com >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: >=20 >> for those of you not in the facebook group... >>=20 >> i completely forgot to record my audio, so it's camera audio, i'm = afraid...but you get the idea... >>=20 >> also had a go at doing some video editing...just crossfading between = the two cameras...almost fried my tired old brain trying to figure out = how to do it... :O) >>=20 >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DD9gNOHoOLuc >>=20 >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXAx8qtT9mtw >=20 --Apple-Mail-1-400314512 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii www.simeonharris.co.uk

for these pieces i'm using a combination of the axe fx, = some plugins for loop treatment and mobius, augustus looper and = crossfade loop synth for = looping

sim

On 19 Sep 2012, = at 17:34, richard sales wrote:

Very very nice, = Simeon.

And for those talking about the value of = repetition, which no musician in any genre can deny the importance of, = Simeon's music makes great use of tension and release within the = repetition, making it intriguing without clobbering us.  Repetition = doesn't have to be boring at all.  The mind wanders but the tension = and release draws it back to the music. =  

All art is about the dance of tension = and release, holding and releasing the = imagination.

This takes skill and experience to = pull off.  Simeon does it extremely well, like Bill = Walker. 

Are you doing most of that with = the Axe FX?  I've heard and commented on your music on the Axe FX = site I believe.  You make this die hard vintage tube amp freak = reconsider the Axe FX. 

Very = nice. 

I couldn't find a web site for you, = which I find fairly stunning for a man with such obvious technical = chops.


On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Simeon Harris = wrote:

for those of you not in the facebook = group...

i completely forgot to record my audio, so it's camera = audio, i'm afraid...but you get the idea...

also had a go at = doing some video editing...just crossfading between the two = cameras...almost fried my tired old brain trying to figure out how to do = it... :O)

http://www.youtube.c= om/watch?v=3DD9gNOHoOLuc

http://www.youtube.c= om/watch?v=3DXAx8qtT9mtw

<= /blockquote>

= --Apple-Mail-1-400314512-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 19 17:13:14 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0605C183461; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:13:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2339 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:13:13 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=AP5czJ3T5rEuG7AdiT2JpYrGX0QvoWi2RsTypp4eUSo= c=1 sm=2 a=bpnoF1vX7WYA:10 a=agWTFdhlyG4A:10 a=kZCaSYHnAAAA:8 a=AmuB-pcYAAAA:8 a=x9LQtntrAAAA:8 a=OUXYneDTAAAA:8 a=qP3OhLWQAAAA:8 a=47JL5iKjAAAA:20 a=EXOjOdsmAAAA:20 a=YM6BxMXUKb3RZBnCghMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=9dKDUTTeGJsA:10 a=4g1Un4FPLDYA:10 a=k9XOtJXmrMMA:10 a=053Au2P4wpAA:10 a=ZslWQpzvNwE0oczRtTcA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 X-Telus-Outbound-IP: 64.180.206.105 From: richard sales Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5-400398801 Subject: Re: my two sets at penarth - and comment on repetiton Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 10:13:06 -0700 In-Reply-To: <53C8D2DD-2905-4BBE-8593-83D13A2BC7B8@googlemail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <971B2B71-DAF3-47B5-BAC8-01172C9AAD6A@gmail.com> <504C7984.2060202@tiscali.co.uk>, <5050D9F4.3050706@tiscali.co.uk> <3CF68788-0E0F-4E42-B98B-0740DFC5895D@googlemail.com> <8E6D8976-8148-4A42-AC99-88854A33051C@glasswing.com> <53C8D2DD-2905-4BBE-8593-83D13A2BC7B8@googlemail.com> Message-Id: <762FD2C9-885C-4058-A77D-76872AD808F8@glasswing.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118360 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:13:13 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5-400398801 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I googled and got links to things you'd done... then a DJ! Maybe because I'm in Canada? Anyhow, thanks and good work. R richard sales www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.goodnaturefarms.com On Sep 19, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > thanks richard >=20 > surprised you couldn't find my site - it's the first hit when you = google my name - www.simeonharris.co.uk >=20 > for these pieces i'm using a combination of the axe fx, some plugins = for loop treatment and mobius, augustus looper and crossfade loop synth = for looping >=20 > sim >=20 > On 19 Sep 2012, at 17:34, richard sales wrote: >=20 >> Very very nice, Simeon. >>=20 >> And for those talking about the value of repetition, which no = musician in any genre can deny the importance of, Simeon's music makes = great use of tension and release within the repetition, making it = intriguing without clobbering us. Repetition doesn't have to be boring = at all. The mind wanders but the tension and release draws it back to = the music. =20 >>=20 >> All art is about the dance of tension and release, holding and = releasing the imagination. >>=20 >> This takes skill and experience to pull off. Simeon does it = extremely well, like Bill Walker.=20 >>=20 >> Are you doing most of that with the Axe FX? I've heard and commented = on your music on the Axe FX site I believe. You make this die hard = vintage tube amp freak reconsider the Axe FX.=20 >>=20 >> Very nice.=20 >>=20 >> I couldn't find a web site for you, which I find fairly stunning for = a man with such obvious technical chops. >>=20 >> richard sales >> www.glasswing.com >> www.richardsales.com >> www.hayleysales.com >> www.goodnaturefarms.com >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: >>=20 >>> for those of you not in the facebook group... >>>=20 >>> i completely forgot to record my audio, so it's camera audio, i'm = afraid...but you get the idea... >>>=20 >>> also had a go at doing some video editing...just crossfading between = the two cameras...almost fried my tired old brain trying to figure out = how to do it... :O) >>>=20 >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DD9gNOHoOLuc >>>=20 >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXAx8qtT9mtw >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-5-400398801 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I = googled and got links to things you'd done... then a DJ!
Maybe = because I'm in Canada? Anyhow, thanks and good = work.

R

richard sales
<= font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38">www.richardsales.com
= www.goodnaturefarms.com=











On Sep 19, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Simeon Harris = wrote:

thanks = richard

surprised you couldn't find my site - = it's the first hit when you google my name - www.simeonharris.co.uk

for these pieces i'm using a combination of the axe = fx, some plugins for loop treatment and mobius, augustus looper and = crossfade loop synth for = looping

sim

On 19 Sep 2012, = at 17:34, richard sales wrote:

Very very nice, = Simeon.

And for those talking about the value of = repetition, which no musician in any genre can deny the importance of, = Simeon's music makes great use of tension and release within the = repetition, making it intriguing without clobbering us.  Repetition = doesn't have to be boring at all.  The mind wanders but the tension = and release draws it back to the music. =  

All art is about the dance of tension = and release, holding and releasing the = imagination.

This takes skill and experience to = pull off.  Simeon does it extremely well, like Bill = Walker. 

Are you doing most of that with = the Axe FX?  I've heard and commented on your music on the Axe FX = site I believe.  You make this die hard vintage tube amp freak = reconsider the Axe FX. 

Very = nice. 

I couldn't find a web site for you, = which I find fairly stunning for a man with such obvious technical = chops.


On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Simeon Harris = wrote:

for those of you not in the facebook = group...

i completely forgot to record my audio, so it's camera = audio, i'm afraid...but you get the idea...

also had a go at = doing some video editing...just crossfading between the two = cameras...almost fried my tired old brain trying to figure out how to do = it... :O)

http://www.youtube.c= om/watch?v=3DD9gNOHoOLuc

http://www.youtube.c= om/watch?v=3DXAx8qtT9mtw

<= /blockquote>


= --Apple-Mail-5-400398801-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 19 17:18:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30961183461; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:18:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=Oslb7QOVngVvUfapEdrqiSF+bIbXHKqIRX3Ycs/lsng=; b=SPSsZMkcS3Eq8UdKFivBmYKd5iF29mqlwSU9Cvf5pRG1niYlvIYp45KLmuRrEbCCqE +dIYNwJBQBc0DVh9jXiC6haBYeScsqmcQRgLWGpE36P/Rya+ka8dyCHZdpyuKb+uwJbO BgaN4psdl6hn2c0oYcL0mTuf6I44oNKp11qb6WTtmm8XfL00rOGgUy2lZmXaKFGr1q1/ +dpmajqwYtqmQEpMrBj5VXpKaairOztskKLf4AbNIAZRU//xIVPCFDi75GYyD9b2xajv gr7LL/80FUV/VOdUoakRS5mrYLqEAa0dBjRmvAwmZM1WahaNHbA1L0Nf/8+dinyuJwoH HD2Q== From: Simeon Harris Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-401004532 Subject: Re: my two sets at penarth - and comment on repetiton Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:23:11 +0100 In-Reply-To: <762FD2C9-885C-4058-A77D-76872AD808F8@glasswing.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <971B2B71-DAF3-47B5-BAC8-01172C9AAD6A@gmail.com> <504C7984.2060202@tiscali.co.uk>, <5050D9F4.3050706@tiscali.co.uk> <3CF68788-0E0F-4E42-B98B-0740DFC5895D@googlemail.com> <8E6D8976-8148-4A42-AC99-88854A33051C@glasswing.com> <53C8D2DD-2905-4BBE-8593-83D13A2BC7B8@googlemail.com> <762FD2C9-885C-4058-A77D-76872AD808F8@glasswing.com> Message-Id: <082A76EC-8A15-48CD-8078-5DA026EB6B72@googlemail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118361 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:18:06 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-401004532 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii google's search bubble. i bet if you turn off your web history, it'll = come up! On 19 Sep 2012, at 18:13, richard sales wrote: > I googled and got links to things you'd done... then a DJ! > Maybe because I'm in Canada? Anyhow, thanks and good work. >=20 > R >=20 > richard sales > www.glasswing.com > www.richardsales.com > www.hayleysales.com > www.goodnaturefarms.com >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Sep 19, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: >=20 >> thanks richard >>=20 >> surprised you couldn't find my site - it's the first hit when you = google my name - www.simeonharris.co.uk >>=20 >> for these pieces i'm using a combination of the axe fx, some plugins = for loop treatment and mobius, augustus looper and crossfade loop synth = for looping >>=20 >> sim >>=20 >> On 19 Sep 2012, at 17:34, richard sales wrote: >>=20 >>> Very very nice, Simeon. >>>=20 >>> And for those talking about the value of repetition, which no = musician in any genre can deny the importance of, Simeon's music makes = great use of tension and release within the repetition, making it = intriguing without clobbering us. Repetition doesn't have to be boring = at all. The mind wanders but the tension and release draws it back to = the music. =20 >>>=20 >>> All art is about the dance of tension and release, holding and = releasing the imagination. >>>=20 >>> This takes skill and experience to pull off. Simeon does it = extremely well, like Bill Walker.=20 >>>=20 >>> Are you doing most of that with the Axe FX? I've heard and = commented on your music on the Axe FX site I believe. You make this die = hard vintage tube amp freak reconsider the Axe FX.=20 >>>=20 >>> Very nice.=20 >>>=20 >>> I couldn't find a web site for you, which I find fairly stunning for = a man with such obvious technical chops. >>>=20 >>> richard sales >>> www.glasswing.com >>> www.richardsales.com >>> www.hayleysales.com >>> www.goodnaturefarms.com >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: >>>=20 >>>> for those of you not in the facebook group... >>>>=20 >>>> i completely forgot to record my audio, so it's camera audio, i'm = afraid...but you get the idea... >>>>=20 >>>> also had a go at doing some video editing...just crossfading = between the two cameras...almost fried my tired old brain trying to = figure out how to do it... :O) >>>>=20 >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DD9gNOHoOLuc >>>>=20 >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXAx8qtT9mtw >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-2-401004532 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I googled and got links = to things you'd done... then a DJ!
Maybe because I'm in Canada? = Anyhow, thanks and good = work.

R


On Sep 19, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Simeon Harris = wrote:

thanks = richard

surprised you couldn't find my site - = it's the first hit when you google my name - www.simeonharris.co.uk

for these pieces i'm using a combination of the axe = fx, some plugins for loop treatment and mobius, augustus looper and = crossfade loop synth for = looping

sim

On 19 Sep 2012, = at 17:34, richard sales wrote:

Very very nice, = Simeon.

And for those talking about the value of = repetition, which no musician in any genre can deny the importance of, = Simeon's music makes great use of tension and release within the = repetition, making it intriguing without clobbering us.  Repetition = doesn't have to be boring at all.  The mind wanders but the tension = and release draws it back to the music. =  

All art is about the dance of tension = and release, holding and releasing the = imagination.

This takes skill and experience to = pull off.  Simeon does it extremely well, like Bill = Walker. 

Are you doing most of that with = the Axe FX?  I've heard and commented on your music on the Axe FX = site I believe.  You make this die hard vintage tube amp freak = reconsider the Axe FX. 

Very = nice. 

I couldn't find a web site for you, = which I find fairly stunning for a man with such obvious technical = chops.


On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Simeon Harris = wrote:

for those of you not in the facebook = group...

i completely forgot to record my audio, so it's camera = audio, i'm afraid...but you get the idea...

also had a go at = doing some video editing...just crossfading between the two = cameras...almost fried my tired old brain trying to figure out how to do = it... :O)

http://www.youtube.c= om/watch?v=3DD9gNOHoOLuc

http://www.youtube.c= om/watch?v=3DXAx8qtT9mtw

<= /blockquote>



= --Apple-Mail-2-401004532-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 19 18:09:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 33D4E183461; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:09:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_6f6ddf92-ff2b-4ccc-9c53-5326c43c1a51_" X-Originating-IP: [86.165.3.59] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: my two sets at penarth - and comment on repetiton Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:09:43 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <53C8D2DD-2905-4BBE-8593-83D13A2BC7B8@googlemail.com> References: <971B2B71-DAF3-47B5-BAC8-01172C9AAD6A@gmail.com> <504C7984.2060202@tiscali.co.uk>, <5050D9F4.3050706@tiscali.co.uk> <3CF68788-0E0F-4E42-B98B-0740DFC5895D@googlemail.com> <8E6D8976-8148-4A42-AC99-88854A33051C@glasswing.com>,<53C8D2DD-2905-4BBE-8593-83D13A2BC7B8@googlemail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2012 18:09:43.0482 (UTC) FILETIME=[F1CD99A0:01CD9691] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118362 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:09:45 +0000 (UTC) --_6f6ddf92-ff2b-4ccc-9c53-5326c43c1a51_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I heard Simeon's set live and can attest it was extremely enjoyable. DO you= have a CD Simeon? Peace Gareth Whittock=2C sound artist: garethwhittock.co.uk From: simeonharris40@googlemail.com Subject: Re: my two sets at penarth - and comment on repetiton Date: Wed=2C 19 Sep 2012 18:11:41 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com thanks richard surprised you couldn't find my site - it's the first hit when you google my= name - www.simeonharris.co.uk for these pieces i'm using a combination of the axe fx=2C some plugins for = loop treatment and mobius=2C augustus looper and crossfade loop synth for l= ooping sim On 19 Sep 2012=2C at 17:34=2C richard sales wrote:Very very nice=2C Simeon. And for those talking about the value of repetition=2C which no musician in= any genre can deny the importance of=2C Simeon's music makes great use of = tension and release within the repetition=2C making it intriguing without c= lobbering us. Repetition doesn't have to be boring at all. The mind wande= rs but the tension and release draws it back to the music. =20 All art is about the dance of tension and release=2C holding and releasing = the imagination. This takes skill and experience to pull off. Simeon does it extremely well= =2C like Bill Walker.=20 Are you doing most of that with the Axe FX? I've heard and commented on yo= ur music on the Axe FX site I believe. You make this die hard vintage tube= amp freak reconsider the Axe FX.=20 Very nice.=20 I couldn't find a web site for you=2C which I find fairly stunning for a ma= n with such obvious technical chops. richard saleswww.glasswing.comwww.richardsales.comwww.hayleysales.comwww.go= odnaturefarms.com On Sep 18=2C 2012=2C at 11:58 AM=2C Simeon Harris wrote:for those of you no= t in the facebook group... i completely forgot to record my audio=2C so it's camera audio=2C i'm afrai= d...but you get the idea... also had a go at doing some video editing...just crossfading between the tw= o cameras...almost fried my tired old brain trying to figure out how to do = it... :O) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DD9gNOHoOLuc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXAx8qtT9mtw = --_6f6ddf92-ff2b-4ccc-9c53-5326c43c1a51_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I heard Simeon's set live and can attest it was extremely enjoyable. DO you= have a CD Simeon?

Peace

Gareth Whittock=2C sound= artist: garethwh= ittock.co.uk

From: simeonharris40@googlemail.com
Subject: Re: my tw= o sets at penarth - and comment on repetiton
Date: Wed=2C 19 Sep 2012 18= :11:41 +0100
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

thanks = richard

surprised you couldn't find my site - it's= the first hit when you google my name - www.simeonharris.co.uk

for these pieces i'm using a combination of the axe fx=2C some plugins f= or loop treatment and mobius=2C augustus looper and crossfade loop synth fo= r looping

sim

On 19 Sep 2012=2C= at 17:34=2C richard sales wrote:

Very very nice=2C Si= meon.

And for those talking about the value of repetitio= n=2C which no musician in any genre can deny the importance of=2C Simeon's = music makes great use of tension and release within the repetition=2C makin= g it intriguing without clobbering us.  =3BRepetition doesn't have to b= e boring at all.  =3BThe mind wanders but the tension and release draws= it back to the music.  =3B

All art is about t= he dance of tension and release=2C holding and releasing the imagination.

This takes skill and experience to pull off.  = =3BSimeon does it extremely well=2C like Bill Walker. =3B
Are you doing most of that with the Axe FX?  =3BI've heard = and commented on your music on the Axe FX site I believe.  =3BYou make = this die hard vintage tube amp freak reconsider the Axe FX. =3B

Very nice. =3B

I couldn't fi= nd a web site for you=2C which I find fairly stunning for a man with such o= bvious technical chops.

=
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On Sep 18=2C 2012=2C at 11:58 AM=2C Simeon Harris wrote:
for those of y= ou not in the facebook group...

i completely forgot to record my aud= io=2C so it's camera audio=2C i'm afraid...but you get the idea...

a= lso had a go at doing some video editing...just crossfading between the two= cameras...almost fried my tired old brain trying to figure out how to do i= t... :O)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DD9gNOHoOLuc

htt= p://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXAx8qtT9mtw
<= br>

= --_6f6ddf92-ff2b-4ccc-9c53-5326c43c1a51_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 19 18:24:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D8C2183463; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:24:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=tKFMdet+amtF4q+5htjSiiM7AZUYRV6G4PMWg/U7TWA=; b=U9areCqI7nhfoM5fk5BOo7kkydVSLd6qvmlep7bOxmHKg64hpf34I8rAOpS5waIM5Z 5boKjCgyOY80CDWLq8TbSh6mGGXbcdc432ChYXlGuZHo647bB91ZGSnF3GLOxAJ/I1L/ ypMNsL77zyXMJiaTDS+GigpP8+R8zcjaVJDdQTPoeRGJD2VHvVZwy/vYwyD1nhkM3YyF LSFyj6E/7zttLWGAAMhHPOCul0rCM3ED49M7yQVwq5SyicTC+Dv9HTYwOlX1gILoQaTZ avGiSto2K0OjVqfLWTs1DYKEUIAovDsr0CO38PNQi5XK25wmp+V3PFnfIBRdl8tT9e4f aNog== Subject: Re: my two sets at penarth - and comment on repetiton References: <971B2B71-DAF3-47B5-BAC8-01172C9AAD6A@gmail.com> <504C7984.2060202@tiscali.co.uk> <5050D9F4.3050706@tiscali.co.uk> <3CF68788-0E0F-4E42-B98B-0740DFC5895D@googlemail.com> <8E6D8976-8148-4A42-AC99-88854A33051C@glasswing.com> <53C8D2DD-2905-4BBE-8593-83D13A2BC7B8@googlemail.com> From: Simeon Harris Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-404717631 X-Mailer: iPod Mail (8C148) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <3D18EA2A-7E1C-4BC3-8B38-6887D1798D21@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 19:25:00 +0100 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 8C148) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118363 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:24:44 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-404717631 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii They're all on bandcamp. I don't bother pressing up CDs any more. They're ex= pensive to do and I never sell any.=20 Sent from my iPod On 19 Sep 2012, at 19:09, Gareth Whittock wrote: > I heard Simeon's set live and can attest it was extremely enjoyable. DO yo= u have a CD Simeon? >=20 > Peace >=20 > Gareth Whittock, sound artist: garethwhittock.co.uk >=20 > From: simeonharris40@googlemail.com > Subject: Re: my two sets at penarth - and comment on repetiton > Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:11:41 +0100 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > thanks richard >=20 > surprised you couldn't find my site - it's the first hit when you google m= y name - www.simeonharris.co.uk >=20 > for these pieces i'm using a combination of the axe fx, some plugins for l= oop treatment and mobius, augustus looper and crossfade loop synth for loopi= ng >=20 > sim >=20 > On 19 Sep 2012, at 17:34, richard sales wrote: >=20 > Very very nice, Simeon. >=20 > And for those talking about the value of repetition, which no musician in a= ny genre can deny the importance of, Simeon's music makes great use of tensi= on and release within the repetition, making it intriguing without clobberin= g us. Repetition doesn't have to be boring at all. The mind wanders but th= e tension and release draws it back to the music. =20 >=20 > All art is about the dance of tension and release, holding and releasing t= he imagination. >=20 > This takes skill and experience to pull off. Simeon does it extremely wel= l, like Bill Walker.=20 >=20 > Are you doing most of that with the Axe FX? I've heard and commented on y= our music on the Axe FX site I believe. You make this die hard vintage tube= amp freak reconsider the Axe FX.=20 >=20 > Very nice.=20 >=20 > I couldn't find a web site for you, which I find fairly stunning for a man= with such obvious technical chops. >=20 > richard sales > www.glasswing.com > www.richardsales.com > www.hayleysales.com > www.goodnaturefarms.com >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: >=20 > for those of you not in the facebook group... >=20 > i completely forgot to record my audio, so it's camera audio, i'm afraid..= .but you get the idea... >=20 > also had a go at doing some video editing...just crossfading between the t= wo cameras...almost fried my tired old brain trying to figure out how to do i= t... :O) >=20 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DD9gNOHoOLuc >=20 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXAx8qtT9mtw >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-1-404717631 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
They're all on bandcamp. I don't bother= pressing up CDs any more. They're expensive to do and I never sell any.&nbs= p;

Sent from my iPod

On 19 Sep 2012, at 19:09, Gareth W= hittock <buddhamachine@live.c= o.uk> wrote:

<= div dir=3D"ltr"> I heard Simeon's set live and can attest it was extremely enjoyable. DO you h= ave a CD Simeon?

Peace

Gareth Whittock, sound arti= st: garethwhittock.co.uk

From: simeonharris40@googlemail.com
Subject: Re: my two sets at pen= arth - and comment on repetiton
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:11:41 +0100
= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

thanks richard

surprised you coul= dn't find my site - it's the first hit when you google my name - www.simeonharris.co.uk

for t= hese pieces i'm using a combination of the axe fx, some plugins for loop tre= atment and mobius, augustus looper and crossfade loop synth for looping

sim

On 19 Sep 2012, at 17:34, richar= d sales wrote:

<= div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">Very very nice, Simeon.

And for those talking about the value of repetition, which no musician in a= ny genre can deny the importance of, Simeon's music makes great use of tensi= on and release within the repetition, making it intriguing without clobberin= g us.  Repetition doesn't have to be boring at all.  The mind wand= ers but the tension and release draws it back to the music.  

All art is about the dance of tension and release, holding a= nd releasing the imagination.

This takes skill and e= xperience to pull off.  Simeon does it extremely well, like Bill Walker= . 

Are you doing most of that with the Axe FX?=  I've heard and commented on your music on the Axe FX site I believe. &= nbsp;You make this die hard vintage tube amp freak reconsider the Axe FX.&nb= sp;

Very nice. 

I cou= ldn't find a web site for you, which I find fairly stunning for a man with s= uch obvious technical chops.


On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:

for those of you not i= n the facebook group...

i completely forgot to record my audio, so it= 's camera audio, i'm afraid...but you get the idea...

also had a go a= t doing some video editing...just crossfading between the two cameras...almo= st fried my tired old brain trying to figure out how to do it... :O)

= <= a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DD9gNOHoOLuc">http://www.youtube.c= om/watch?v=3DD9gNOHoOLuc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXAx8qtT9mtw
=


= = --Apple-Mail-1-404717631-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 19 22:18:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 947C7183461; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 22:18:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_9094971f-9b1e-478a-ab64-9f9db88d3f73_" X-Originating-IP: [184.145.20.50] From: X X To: Subject: RE: my two sets at penarth - and comment on repetiton Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 22:18:17 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <8E6D8976-8148-4A42-AC99-88854A33051C@glasswing.com> References: <971B2B71-DAF3-47B5-BAC8-01172C9AAD6A@gmail.com> <504C7984.2060202@tiscali.co.uk>, <5050D9F4.3050706@tiscali.co.uk> <3CF68788-0E0F-4E42-B98B-0740DFC5895D@googlemail.com>,<8E6D8976-8148-4A42-AC99-88854A33051C@glasswing.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2012 22:18:17.0959 (UTC) FILETIME=[AB862F70:01CD96B4] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118364 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 22:18:19 +0000 (UTC) --_9094971f-9b1e-478a-ab64-9f9db88d3f73_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm going to frame this post at my earliest convenience. :) BRILLIANT! From: richard@glasswing.com Date: Wed=2C 19 Sep 2012 09:34:04 -0700 Very very nice=2C Simeon. All art is about the dance of tension and release=2C holding and releasing = the imagination. = --_9094971f-9b1e-478a-ab64-9f9db88d3f73_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm going to frame this post at my earliest convenience. :) =3B BRILLIA= NT!

From: richard@glasswing.com
Date: Wed=2C 19 Sep 2012 09:= 34:04 -0700
Very very nice=2C Simeon.

All art is about the= dance of tension and release=2C holding and releasing the imagination.
= --_9094971f-9b1e-478a-ab64-9f9db88d3f73_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 20 02:52:57 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D725183464; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 02:52:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:message-id:date :to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=CnE/LCCBf5rDsZk6K54dFdeDgOv8Ho4XGnaWociz0Ps=; b=fkBrd2MBY5SRLNkGrVJr0TQOLttcx1s+PIrShCygEPlopDMxfsK8ur0+AButeAhYYM Hgo7r6eIr1si3jx4G8fWBIRnkEgF/8XbJfj1mnzGblvs4lCJt6rIFESFO2pOfot2sR18 7xnf6ZHRrARQgDHOd47efMy7gQhRO9Eyud4wN+cA8Od7anxquRCqQvl+mXCdasgHSKL1 +FQq/gp7f3wj6jRMqbkF8Z1beM6JvA/IntC/XwvyeF9IIKmtMFTudlANxbjnYyiWW8ug TsowtPJgfZzwGWH9EYH5mVsrH5rd3b47XT3JKPfwBVxhtrrBZfI9WzZJG9uJ8BFBkw/j yKpQ== From: George Matthews Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: My All Double Bass Project Message-Id: <769BAC09-F3B1-45C3-A5CB-E0D89C2A7E29@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 22:52:52 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1486\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1486) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118365 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 02:52:57 +0000 (UTC) Hey Guys, I've been slow around these parts the past year but only = because I've been trying to survive my public school teaching job as = well as working on a all double bass album. Only one of the tunes on the = album is looping double bass and the rest only used my double bass but = the songs were multi-tracked. I started a kickstarter campaign and I = wanted you guys to check out the video I made for it if you got 5 min to = spare. If you end up digging it feel free to share it with your musician = brethren! = http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/toddbass/todd-matthews-debut-uh-oh-her= e-come-the-pig-mammot/ Feel free to contact me off/on list if you have any thoughts. -Todd Matthews From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 20 04:29:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB255183462; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 04:29:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-23-440971758 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: RE: TC Electronic Flashback X 4 Delay And Looper and Re: OT Variax Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 21:29:19 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118366 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 04:29:27 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-23-440971758 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > May I ask why? As a looper, I bet yes. But as a vocal effect > processor, does not seem so. Well, as said, the VE has got lot of > useless presets. Still, the doubler, the harmonies (yes, they will > sound artificial, but you can change effect in each overdub, so, > imagine a loop with some harmonies in one overdub, they will not > sound so bad after all), strobo, robot, flanger, distorsion, radio, > they are all very cool effects which in the street can make people > listen... What make you opt more for the RC 30? hey Sergio, since I'm a guitarist, the effects that are built in to the RC-30 are more interesting to me so my opinion may not apply. Also it can run two loops at once, always a plus for composition. Much longer loop times and ability to store large numbers of loops, great for if you want to do some pre recorded sound collages or loops and have them available. I must say, I don't own either unit , but I have had ample opportunity to try out both products, and they both have their merits. for vocal products Boss is rare among companies that address street performer needs (batteries) I'd get both of them:-) Bill --Apple-Mail-23-440971758 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
May I ask why? As a looper, I bet yes. But as a vocal effect = processor, does not seem so. Well, as said, the VE has got lot of = useless presets. Still, the doubler, the harmonies (yes, they will sound = artificial, but you can change effect in each overdub, so, imagine a = loop with some harmonies in one overdub, they will not sound so bad = after all), strobo, robot, flanger, distorsion, radio, they are all very = cool effects which in the street can make people listen... What make you = opt more for the RC 30?

 hey Sergio, = since I'm a guitarist,  the effects that are built in to the RC-30 = are more interesting to me so my opinion may not apply. Also it can run = two loops at once,  always a plus for composition. Much longer loop = times and ability to store large numbers of loops, great for if you want = to do some pre recorded sound collages or loops and have them available. =  I must say,  I don't own either unit , but I have had ample = opportunity to try out both products,  and they both have their = merits. for vocal products Boss is rare among companies that address = street performer needs (batteries)  I'd get both of = them:-)
 Bill
= --Apple-Mail-23-440971758-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 20 04:52:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B127E183463; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 04:52:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: To: Subject: Pseudo OT - Which comes first? Language or Music? Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 23:52:37 -0500 Message-ID: <006b01cd96eb$c1d62410$45826c30$@michaelplishka.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006C_01CD96C1.D9063690" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac2W68BVRT288HoBSaCOT62tb0QKzA== Content-Language: en-us x-vipre-scanned: 0F3D21840033580F3D22D1 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: <6M3tyB.A.XDE.YEqWQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118367 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 04:52:40 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01CD96C1.D9063690 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In light of some recent discussion, I came across this article and thought I'd share: http://www.news-medical.net/news/20120919/Music-underlies-the-ability-to-acq uire-language.aspx ~peace~ Mike www.michaelplishka.com www.scribbledmusings.com www.zenstorming.com ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01CD96C1.D9063690 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In light of some recent discussion, I came across this article and = thought I’d share:

 

http://www.news-medical.net/news/20120919/= Music-underlies-the-ability-to-acquire-language.aspx

 

 

 

~peace~

Mike

 

 

 

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------=_NextPart_000_006C_01CD96C1.D9063690-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 20 06:29:11 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4D4A183465; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 06:29:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=k0KMo4s3bz4vpSWe7G0mlbW8H10pGVPsSbmF+4J5uIg=; b=pdHzr3ygZ1Qnok9YmBURUQGWLNumzJoc5fpp5hYqdJtGvmFKW0a71zrOM/+8/I1wfR IHHyA+uOUzcRF05AP2W2m5IIKPHr1ky/VLkRQTwuOFFRiEonnuB79YHXVcxd//i+8hEl 6VGky15Yh81bRHRybzF2cS2IiVLrwj5zvXIJfAapMyO/7xHKGbIpE/Qcsr8lOyj0JdtV QML5SwNLq5NOxPgrMK3N4tnD3cawzI6fQazcVW7D5wChtTg3OyaypQCZSixN330jbbjY z8rDcNLDzLc9Png5nG+yX4Clw8axtDSxAmnRO3+L0ZpDOT174q0eNBXtkjt4jaoE07oX yoRQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 23:29:09 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Performing at school Friday, random wave of low confidence has struck again From: "kay'lon rushing" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d044286e2abde7604ca1c3db6 Resent-Message-ID: <8OqQHD.A.SCF.2erWQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118368 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 06:29:10 +0000 (UTC) --f46d044286e2abde7604ca1c3db6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I just spent 45 minutes "practicing" 3 songs for a lunch time performance at my high school. Im not feeling so confident since i havent practiced in WEEKS. I feel pretty dumb for even scheduling a performance knowing that i wouldnt have very much time to practice. It feels almost like i forgot how to do what i usually would. --f46d044286e2abde7604ca1c3db6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I just spent 45 minutes "practicing" 3 songs for a lunch time = performance at my high school. Im not feeling so confident since i havent p= racticed in WEEKS.
I feel pretty dumb for even scheduling a performance knowing that i wouldnt= have very much time to practice. It feels almost like i forgot how to do w= hat i usually would.=A0

--f46d044286e2abde7604ca1c3db6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 20 06:34:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4AA5F183464; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 06:34:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1348122880; bh=5F6FfhkY9bL+1zKit7f4GFoG1leO87xXn+qLpuIiTwM=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Message-Id:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer; b=W2ykfZSXX/jBsUpA1PYyhFAZUHeqvaTJkrxK8S0rduW7wy6rMn8W5ahsS4G5yJz9ragJSYUnLy694kPeQ2lyMC4eDYnY3SsF/bf0LP1DXHGoiyj6LBQGuU7eAi1Hl66FWUp4O2J972X5PBw1LbQOeTu1FSkdFcMc/pSAODdJM5o= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 939983.9071.bm@smtp143.mail.ukl.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: dnvTU2MVM1njyfOEQVdIQBG.4sIcBjsUO3lea3W1IlJYlAF IaCeecgpmD_xz9HlSyiEiwcMYKsIw2zypVHHTgYQNGnEsagPByRJUp7h1vtK xQWrrCusR8x70Rc4P5qJJb4MvNMfd_CS4lBPitpxboBv_ev6Mkt9.SspBMC6 KUhZu2BEiaIifNMiFo_p4FKSOzk13bcwcd.X8nrMUaTl2097Up4eDXL25nFt hHAkOxYxcc_a.QLw1OjztkgYhchMjEeGgNNVZIMxwPDjbJf5gsZyfHfblPZA alJ7gBVGTcPI2e.YVbMvNJjv9vihCOZSz0k4_i7uZOL62h5E959cEVu07SKe xH1V62DZ59myS.eGAyKz2As9zMIM9.VLZ0tbFverNqLtQb0LT1M0LELVgxFd fM6DLmx73J4Qr_YXRh_ZzaPQWh7d1dcTNwiFVlW2wed7PtofrCMmu_k2MHXC 6jFWfQm_DJJg1DoNyDpX6hMLIjD5Hp7eyu9OUYiw3HbFVWwWRLp3ePnrJAI7 7KdrcnkLxmZxIDmXuowthFQdDUYfIGwlIZpHV_o74S492_NUqXlEQjMOAad_ wzcP17uPSvlMCb_sPAQs.xn4KQgzSiaSiemjTB0YndVWw_g7ed3LeXk38tgE RI86npQmqt4Mwu8c.ZjPp2wuJncJrk5z.IGswyKkJQ.ufQQVQUeP_jAabioh EtrmAXmNQqOQOah._wmjP.c49SEcqoHsoA7.3fi.M7GMk9lLKN2B5ryyRBTC pEuKM1u9E6OljTWDj._CPDYjklc9GSVsknQ2iCeC7sbbmSQy2xFhacJOpaXh ar02XRTmaTQ6DXt3o48S4cbQVLRQOrte4x6_4QdifyKwAD0MoXsmS9myifgB trXA6AtdpMR5tjyz7I4363MAT3tK_GPHcGn0- X-Yahoo-SMTP: 75CdczOswBChen.W3AbLhaW8TlC96TVo5w-- From: Ben To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Jeff Duke Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:34:40 +0200 Subject: Re: Paulstretch In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <20120920083440.97C4CB58.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: nPOPuk Ver 2.16 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118369 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 06:34:42 +0000 (UTC) If you like this kind of sounds (drone/ambient/microtuning), i found out recently about this one: http://www.skytopia.com/software/sonicphoto/index.htm The image synth base idea is well known (coagula, metasynth, audiopaint, ...) but IMHO this one gives more "musical" results ("musical as opposed to noise FX). Ben -------------------------------------------------- Jeff Duke wrote: (19/09/2012 16:47) > Been using Paulstretch for a long time! It is now even incorporated into > Audacity! > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 10:18 AM, mark francombe wrote: > > > Not sure if this is of any interest for people here, but I just found a > > funky little program that can stretch your mp3 files to ridiculous > > lengths... > > Its called Paulstretch and theres a link for it here: > > > > http://music.cornwarning.com/2011/12/07/new-paulstretch-os-x-build/ > > > > I just spent a fun a 20 minutes listening to Yellow Submarine stretched to > > 20 minutes... > > > > > > -- > > *Mark Francombe* > > www.markfrancombe.com > > www.ordoabkhao.com > > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > > http://www.looop.no > > twitter @markfrancombe > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 20 09:45:04 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97D31183463; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:45:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_e560ec0d-865b-4bfc-a63a-242747b2b08c_" X-Originating-IP: [217.92.117.212] From: Sergio G Sender: To: Subject: RE: TC Electronic Flashback X 4 Delay And Looper and Re: OT Variax Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:45:01 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Sep 2012 09:45:02.0615 (UTC) FILETIME=[9B69BA70:01CD9714] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118370 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:45:04 +0000 (UTC) --_e560ec0d-865b-4bfc-a63a-242747b2b08c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well=2C I did not notice that the VE-20 has got just one loop.And if I perf= orm in the streets I will very probably do it with a friend=2C so it would = be nice to have two loops and also the imputs both for mic and instrument (= like the rc-30).Mumble mumble. I will think about it.It is too soon. :) From: billwalker@baymoon.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: TC Electronic Flashback X 4 Delay And Looper and Re: OT Variax Date: Wed=2C 19 Sep 2012 21:29:19 -0700 May I ask why? As a looper=2C I bet yes. But as a vocal effect processor=2C= does not seem so. Well=2C as said=2C the VE has got lot of useless presets= . Still=2C the doubler=2C the harmonies (yes=2C they will sound artificial= =2C but you can change effect in each overdub=2C so=2C imagine a loop with = some harmonies in one overdub=2C they will not sound so bad after all)=2C s= trobo=2C robot=2C flanger=2C distorsion=2C radio=2C they are all very cool = effects which in the street can make people listen... What make you opt mor= e for the RC 30? hey Sergio=2C since I'm a guitarist=2C the effects that are built in to t= he RC-30 are more interesting to me so my opinion may not apply. Also it ca= n run two loops at once=2C always a plus for composition. Much longer loop= times and ability to store large numbers of loops=2C great for if you want= to do some pre recorded sound collages or loops and have them available. = I must say=2C I don't own either unit =2C but I have had ample opportunity= to try out both products=2C and they both have their merits. for vocal pr= oducts Boss is rare among companies that address street performer needs (ba= tteries) I'd get both of them:-) Bill = --_e560ec0d-865b-4bfc-a63a-242747b2b08c_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well=2C I did not notice that the VE-20 has got just one loop.
And if I= perform in the streets I will very probably do it with a friend=2C so it w= ould be nice to have two loops and also the imputs both for mic and instrum= ent (like the rc-30).
Mumble mumble.
I will think about it.
It is too soon.
 =3B:)
From: billwalker@baymoon.com
To:= Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: TC Electronic Flashbac= k X 4 Delay And Looper and Re: OT Variax
Date: Wed=2C 19 Sep 2012 21:29:= 19 -0700

May I ask why? As a looper=2C I bet yes.= But as a vocal effect processor=2C does not seem so. Well=2C as said=2C th= e VE has got lot of useless presets. Still=2C the doubler=2C the harmonies = (yes=2C they will sound artificial=2C but you can change effect in each ove= rdub=2C so=2C imagine a loop with some harmonies in one overdub=2C they wil= l not sound so bad after all)=2C strobo=2C robot=2C flanger=2C distorsion= =2C radio=2C they are all very cool effects which in the street can make pe= ople listen... What make you opt more for the RC 30?
 =3Bhey Sergio=2C since I'm a guitarist=2C  =3Bthe effects th= at are built in to the RC-30 are more interesting to me so my opinion may n= ot apply. Also it can run two loops at once=2C  =3Balways a plus for co= mposition. Much longer loop times and ability to store large numbers of loo= ps=2C great for if you want to do some pre recorded sound collages or loops= and have them available.  =3BI must say=2C  =3BI don't own either = unit =2C but I have had ample opportunity to try out both products=2C  = =3Band they both have their merits. for vocal products Boss is rare among c= ompanies that address street performer needs (batteries)  =3BI'd get bo= th of them:-)
 =3BBill
= --_e560ec0d-865b-4bfc-a63a-242747b2b08c_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 20 10:44:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1093D183463; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:44:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=mWDtPz9QhUIrjD+oJg7ODxXkQwgPHn1cU6lb6Ei6iIQ=; b=GUkWFqxd5jFNORYMYcWiAGq8VRVQiJgns0i+wWwvCogNOSCmN8pxG0/SDweq4I0+iW ynSfYQaG1kv1ZxsDbNH+HaW/u/5xUNrsxi+6+D2ktlwiZSEJV8w8phhILsD/k9quc4Ty CSIoScymZDqFLA9gtxt04XBAWGZwkBKcZtB1An7LSngFl/VJMOjI9rxR5xMPQBmU7n9e bS9xRqiZOyS/m4nRV/mt9T6oVjjf+um4KdOkRIvO1dx4npXVuxVtJarYGgKPjH5+6eXb tzcIaFTcskw+UM8rN5pBTcWm9JuuUT7Fb4NNslkpJESqX3oO8Gqk/5whV8IYV/T2WBGu mHaw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20120920083440.97C4CB58.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> References: <20120920083440.97C4CB58.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 12:44:50 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Paulstretch From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118371 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:44:51 +0000 (UTC) I didn't know about that Sonic Photo application. Thanks for telling! Since we're off-topic now I can add the quite new Iris to the list http://izotope.com/products/audio/iris/ Iris seems to rely more on granular synthesis and also offers great instrument capabilities. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Ben wrote: > If you like this kind of sounds (drone/ambient/microtuning), i found > out recently about this one: > http://www.skytopia.com/software/sonicphoto/index.htm > The image synth base idea is well known (coagula, metasynth, > audiopaint, ...) but IMHO this one gives more "musical" results > ("musical as opposed to noise FX). > > Ben > > -------------------------------------------------- > Jeff Duke wrote: > (19/09/2012 16:47) > >> Been using Paulstretch for a long time! It is now even incorporated into >> Audacity! >> >> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 10:18 AM, mark francombe wrote: >> >> > Not sure if this is of any interest for people here, but I just found a >> > funky little program that can stretch your mp3 files to ridiculous >> > lengths... >> > Its called Paulstretch and theres a link for it here: >> > >> > http://music.cornwarning.com/2011/12/07/new-paulstretch-os-x-build/ >> > >> > I just spent a fun a 20 minutes listening to Yellow Submarine stretched to >> > 20 minutes... >> > >> > >> > -- >> > *Mark Francombe* >> > www.markfrancombe.com >> > www.ordoabkhao.com >> > http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> > http://www.looop.no >> > twitter @markfrancombe >> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ >> > >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 20 10:56:19 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29232183462; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:56:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6jWstfAQ4eXmB/ceZ3l1BuqZyd/mrzbdTioWYG7xP+o=; b=t3/A7mmHXZ93NfFHnwGzFWhpCZuov374YDAkEUJ0c3LXBO0c5UdEvtiNLkF4ZnSBJG CGT8QGdrVcbsKZ42h0I7iI1dIUjrTSGNZYIYinayI5UIdY4Liauk/EAjTBw9COq5IkMt AwcEEJ7cmOr+5A6cC9lTaFUR05hGocIxg5acP/8tlmgqDJWnpsQ5gDLbuk/03z8kWDFz kg5uxTr4ReZmmMS8d3N1R/XGo3J9vAaRPTMbhOBFgFs2SJ8cWqeRhNW9JTI9zAngPVIm 0hatqoZGjpJ94cQ3leei5+/129kKsGo+INpOMRUwZUOiVp7aU5q0/erLQeQk5DkbHGSX hSSw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <006b01cd96eb$c1d62410$45826c30$@michaelplishka.com> References: <006b01cd96eb$c1d62410$45826c30$@michaelplishka.com> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 12:56:17 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Pseudo OT - Which comes first? Language or Music? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118372 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:56:18 +0000 (UTC) Thanks. Interesting! Chomsky never made that connection with music as far as I know. Another interesting detail, that wasn't mentioned in that article, is the brain processing unit that opens the possibility to listen to sound through the ears and instantly chime in ("comment") with your speech organs. Only humans and birds have that brain part. >From this one may guess that maybe also the dinosaurs had this simultaneous "chiming-in" capability? Would they have developed language with abstract concepts if not wiped out of the loop? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 6:52 AM, wrote: > In light of some recent discussion, I came across this article and though= t > I=E2=80=99d share: > > > > http://www.news-medical.net/news/20120919/Music-underlies-the-ability-to-= acquire-language.aspx > > > > > > > > ~peace~ > > Mike > > > > > > > > www.michaelplishka.com > > www.scribbledmusings.com > > www.zenstorming.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 20 11:06:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 798F5183461; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 11:06:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_0368a2c5-53d3-47fe-a6ca-4975018c1463_" X-Originating-IP: [217.92.117.212] From: Sergio G Sender: To: Subject: RE: Paulstretch Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 11:06:51 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,,<20120920083440.97C4CB58.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Sep 2012 11:06:50.0642 (UTC) FILETIME=[08D33720:01CD9720] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118373 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 11:06:52 +0000 (UTC) --_0368a2c5-53d3-47fe-a6ca-4975018c1463_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nice! it is a strange sensation when you see realized things which you thought "i= t would be nice if..."Some years ago I was watching a landscape with mounta= ins and a lake. On the lake there was the reflection of the mountains=2C li= ke their inverted (mirror) image.The two together were so incredibly simila= r to a wave form.I thought "if I could play this waveform=2C I could hear t= he voice of the mountain".:) Ser > Date: Thu=2C 20 Sep 2012 12:44:50 +0200 > Subject: Re: Paulstretch > From: perboysen@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > I didn't know about that Sonic Photo application. Thanks for telling! > Since we're off-topic now I can add the quite new Iris to the list > http://izotope.com/products/audio/iris/ >=20 > Iris seems to rely more on granular synthesis and also offers great > instrument capabilities. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >=20 >=20 > On Thu=2C Sep 20=2C 2012 at 8:34 AM=2C Ben wrote: > > If you like this kind of sounds (drone/ambient/microtuning)=2C i found > > out recently about this one: > > http://www.skytopia.com/software/sonicphoto/index.htm > > The image synth base idea is well known (coagula=2C metasynth=2C > > audiopaint=2C ...) but IMHO this one gives more "musical" results > > ("musical as opposed to noise FX). > > > > Ben > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > Jeff Duke wrote: > > (19/09/2012 16:47) > > > >> Been using Paulstretch for a long time! It is now even incorporated in= to > >> Audacity! > >> > >> On Wed=2C Sep 19=2C 2012 at 10:18 AM=2C mark francombe wrote: > >> > >> > Not sure if this is of any interest for people here=2C but I just fo= und a > >> > funky little program that can stretch your mp3 files to ridiculous > >> > lengths... > >> > Its called Paulstretch and theres a link for it here: > >> > > >> > http://music.cornwarning.com/2011/12/07/new-paulstretch-os-x-build/ > >> > > >> > I just spent a fun a 20 minutes listening to Yellow Submarine stretc= hed to > >> > 20 minutes... > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > *Mark Francombe* > >> > www.markfrancombe.com > >> > www.ordoabkhao.com > >> > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > >> > http://www.looop.no > >> > twitter @markfrancombe > >> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ > >> > > >> > > > >=20 = --_0368a2c5-53d3-47fe-a6ca-4975018c1463_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nice!

it is a strange sensation when you see realized th= ings which you thought "it would be nice if..."
Some years ago I = was watching a landscape with mountains and a lake. On the lake there was t= he reflection of the mountains=2C like their inverted (mirror) image.
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The two together were so incredibly similar to a wave form.
= I thought "if I could play this waveform=2C I could hear the voice of the m= ountain".
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>=3B On Thu=2C Sep 20=2C 2012 at= 8:34 AM=2C Ben <=3Bbenoitruelle@yahoo.fr>=3B wrote:
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= = --_0368a2c5-53d3-47fe-a6ca-4975018c1463_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 20 12:11:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6D6B183464; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 12:11:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=iUI1S45Dqo4JAoOUEBUmJ/4D1oKARt4070LvbWJ8tBw=; b=HgfAtqX+6pBupse+7wRVXpV1FB6bWPxrQwstmGKnhlFG8CWXrS5Pw6ZF5hTZvtisNA GCfcEoZs7NQ+LXqgH64CIEMKOjfTgS/0o3wS5a0WB3gL3Q+eQ53N6aVTRtS750KiZMok oagMX0Bx4jY/ItbcwIePOxw17B4+tIZ7XB4MRNYjCKgAqy0L1acn7FIaKW9MaWkTevyI OI2y/2506gDDvsxrJiXjpow1f128xp124mkCqZzmgII4URVHiBB9DrEg68MenKFHxRBW GUvpPLFya8Arbuh5X+5Ol+ZoZOqSilrx73CoZPJN+6hurODgjEEyKo+HvPga4PgKsxF7 VBDA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:11:11 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Performing at school Friday, random wave of low confidence has struck again From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118374 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 12:11:12 +0000 (UTC) Kaylon, keep going. Its all easy advice (something u should take minimally in life :) ) to give hard to receive as your anxiety and insecurities are high. Still it was your inner muse and true self that scheduled the date so follow it through. It will be okay. Do some closed eyes steadying of the hands visualizations to clame the physical (info shared to me years ago when had a period of perform anx) which can share more on if interest. Do the date, don't look back and focus on creating the loops and the musIc within. This list is here for you as they say. Jim On 9/20/12, kay'lon rushing wrote: > I just spent 45 minutes "practicing" 3 songs for a lunch time performance > at my high school. Im not feeling so confident since i havent practiced i= n > WEEKS. > I feel pretty dumb for even scheduling a performance knowing that i would= nt > have very much time to practice. It feels almost like i forgot how to do > what i usually would. > --=20 Sent from my mobile device --=20 *jimgoodin.com* - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive minimalism' *The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music* - 'Organically inspired New Music' *From Brooklyn To Glindran *, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from this CD will benefit *JDRF International * *Tips Across the Waters *, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 20 12:45:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 747A9183463; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 12:45:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <505B0FFC.5010103@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 05:45:48 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sergio G CC: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RE: TC Electronic Flashback X 4 Delay And Looper and Re: OT Variax References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030008080702070404080701" Resent-Message-ID: <9u1uLC.A.Pw.EAxWQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118375 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 12:45:56 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030008080702070404080701 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 9/19/12 8:52 AM, Sergio G wrote: > reasons you mentioned> > May I ask why? As a looper,What make you opt more for the RC 30? I just demoed the VE-20 for a student who was looking at buying it. Once you have a loop going, you cannot turn it off in real time and start the loop again..........if you do, it erases the original loop. GAME OVER!!!!! be careful, don't buy one! Rick Walker --------------030008080702070404080701 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 9/19/12 8:52 AM, Sergio G wrote:
<The Boss RC-30 would be better choice than  the VE-20 for all the reasons you mentioned>
May I ask why? As a looper,What make you opt more for the RC 30?


I just demoed the VE-20 for a student who was looking at buying it.

Once you have a loop going,  you cannot turn it off in real time and start the loop again..........if you do, it
erases the original loop.

GAME OVER!!!!!         

be careful,   don't buy one!

Rick Walker

--------------030008080702070404080701-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 20 13:07:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B14C3183463; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 13:07:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 665263.59578.bm@omp1040.mail.bf1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1348146465; bh=rU1b/uwg4J4Mk31hXfGzuw/AprTmCTyPnC3alZi1KaI=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wpQX+filWFnA6OFkmlkOwvMW1JjQzfRnXT83HlMXoO1hty9Vi8T71bHK5tchVXEghaUbkgfAqoJXvjsHjlQH/0JWAG3TopeccZPhdFMQjc1hAo1+Onm/N3dOW2YpCFHiWY5vIQNt95KOktnSONqVgZNxlqD/xAcCmJDVFYhIVAo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zRA2yvtlrZuNLA/B4BStaODNImIDDLDSsrUBwEWgeqlUoJD1bRUDWvdKkC530W89VTf661Vd1v14nezMfUFdEmQyQeSTWIRT65kHr2Ximpa2cejT1iypt3kWGiwsZe4Zkh1XwwPdD9CKqZd+hXwUgL7Xr3HeseZrdmwvVzE90lc=; X-YMail-OSG: S.2OyP8VM1mF4aPDLujUvtJ4sGuZFzT1bbnfc7I5RGPwxlW 3NU4MbwtLzPUddfj6TIDsRjXAzrVe.Nmzcs9jKr0NmR4fFsKGxzzM9R_iW62 Dv.riMHhDAwcKmoETMiF8kCnZ6rw9FJuZGjeznxTMFAlPcRtbdsdPZ4ES7eb dpTwbWvb4po2clfQ_I7ANqf_90lNvZyBBUeDraGFbOIYoVAGAh.Y4naHquBW a7MLiahqVPCeNhBs1xRjhLgCRPDbUXcHherRUiglto.ln9weiGlQB.YqotN0 xwfl21ebJPeXcrQZyPjTfhh7HbxRHb79dOgKRfDdv40w2uxsWCvyeZS8V7St 2_7.O07drsttVNlmFGe7OsURHUl4wuZjClFxZxyACdd6laBh9VyCt6ft8E9c F.NPfwSoF0dwHNeBU7gZmLbaAR1YRoHOAiPgYSPHYfG1MXkdDHDD0NgtYIUT nlLHa3VlF3gYZe_O_MLYrQI_fORzuOZNldOUnzUcpUS2IWhTBQ1ON4rhG0VL C2oH6tNS1IpmLIibQJqUA6OdnXmKWq7WFJpu7oczGLQIQ1Qyj.CR9iFdQGRJ tAIbBsQOrN_9kqJ2u_sA2Np9awDr48EJgJpbLxnAV5W6yD5vAVkTJh0XcQQm BuvN29yceW3lhiht2Wruk0MKFaERuJc1WvcLB1MSMr_R9FDY0AB7rzKMU5JF YVbz9kIWcSQj_g9_IGCCxSl4iLCHXP4tr3r9Ov3Y.v0nQZZr1xhjQUTawybF dlwK. X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 References: Message-ID: <1348146465.91429.YahooMailNeo@web32505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 06:07:45 -0700 (PDT) From: bill bigrig Reply-To: bill bigrig Subject: Re: Performing at school Friday, random wave of low confidence has struck again To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-981468583-273310940-1348146465=:91429" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118376 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 13:07:46 +0000 (UTC) ---981468583-273310940-1348146465=:91429 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My advice to you is, go ahead and play! Be sure to look confident without p= ride nor arrogance. Make a brief hello and I'd like to share my music, then= dive right in. The cardinal rule is, PLAY THROUGH ALL BAD NOTES!! Most in = the audience will not notice. If you show anxiety, the audience will sense = it and devalue your performance. Chin up, back straight, a mischevious smil= e, and do not be afraid to poke fun at yourself if you want. Audiences love= self-deprecation, if not overly obvious. You'll do just fine. 90% of it is= just showing up, looking happy , and play. The legendary Joe Meek always m= ade his musicians smile. Even without a window from the control room to the= studio, he claimed to be able to hear if the talent was not smiling. Go fi= gure. I think his record sales says it all. I'd wish you good luck, but you= don't need it. Being a little nervous makes you just like everybody else. = The time to woory is when you do not feel a little edgy. Rig=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Jim Goodin =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =0ASent: Thursday= , September 20, 2012 5:11 AM=0ASubject: Re: Performing at school Friday, ra= ndom wave of low confidence has struck again=0A=0AKaylon, keep going.=A0 It= s all easy advice (something u should take=0Aminimally in life :) ) to give= hard to receive as your anxiety and=0Ainsecurities are high.=A0 Still it w= as your inner muse and true self=0Athat scheduled the date so follow it thr= ough.=A0 It will be okay.=A0 Do=0Asome closed eyes steadying of the hands v= isualizations to clame the=0Aphysical (info shared to me years ago when had= a period of perform=0Aanx) which can share more on if interest.=A0 Do the = date, don't look=0Aback and focus on creating the loops and the musIc withi= n.=A0 This list=0Ais here for you as they say.=0A=0AJim=0A=0AOn 9/20/12, ka= y'lon rushing wrote:=0A> I just spent 45 minutes "practi= cing" 3 songs for a lunch time performance=0A> at my high school. Im not fe= eling so confident since i havent practiced in=0A> WEEKS.=0A> I feel pretty= dumb for even scheduling a performance knowing that i wouldnt=0A> have ver= y much time to practice. It feels almost like i forgot how to do=0A> what i= usually would.=0A>=0A=0A-- =0ASent from my mobile device=0A=0A-- =0A*jimgo= odin.com* - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance,=0Acolor bl= ue, repetitive minimalism'=0A=0A*The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music* -=0A'Organically inspired New Music'=0A= =0A*From Brooklyn To Glindran *, a= =0Anew World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds= from=0Athis CD will benefit *JDRF International *=0A=0A*T= ips Across the=0AWaters=0A*, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wi= re Ware. ---981468583-273310940-1348146465=:91429 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My advice to you is, go ahead and play! Be sure to look confident without p= ride nor arrogance. Make a brief hello and I'd like to share my music, = then dive right in. The cardinal rule is, PLAY THROUGH ALL BAD NOTES!! Most= in the audience will not notice. If you show anxiety, the audience will se= nse it and devalue your performance. Chin up, back straight, a mischevious = smile, and do not be afraid to poke fun at yourself if you want. Audiences = love self-deprecation, if not overly obvious. You'll do just fine. 90% = of it is just showing up, looking happy , and play. The legendary Joe Meek = always made his musicians smile. Even without a window from the control roo= m to the studio, he claimed to be able to hear if the talent was not smilin= g. Go figure. I think his record sales says it all. I'd wish you good l= uck, but you don't need it. Being a little nervous makes you just like = everybody else. The time to woory is when you do not feel a little edgy.=0D
Rig
From: Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-del= ight.com
Sent: Thursd= ay, September 20, 2012 5:11 AM
Su= bject: Re: Performing at school Friday, random wave of low confi= dence has struck again

=0AKaylon, keep going.  = Its all easy advice (something u should take
minimally in life :) ) to g= ive hard to receive as your anxiety and
insecurities are high.  Sti= ll it was your inner muse and true self
that scheduled the date so follo= w it through.  It will be okay.  Do
some closed eyes steadying= of the hands visualizations to clame the
physical (info shared to me ye= ars ago when had a period of perform
anx) which can share more on if int= erest.  Do the date, don't look
back and focus on creating the loop= s and the musIc within.  This list
is here for you as they say.
=
Jim

On 9/20/12, kay'lon rushing <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrote:=
> I just spent 45 minutes "practicing" 3 songs for a lunch time perf= ormance
> at my high school. Im not feeling so confident since i have= nt practiced in
> WEEKS.
> I feel pretty dumb for even scheduling a performance knowing that i wouldnt
&g= t; have very much time to practice. It feels almost like i forgot how to do=
> what i usually would.
>

--
Sent from my mobile de= vice

--
*jimgoodin.com* <http://jimgoodin.com> - 'Acoustic= guitar renaissance,
color blue, repetitive minimalism'

*The Reco= rdings of Wood and Wire Music*<http://woodandwiremusic.bandcamp.com> -
= 'Organically inspired New Music'

*From Brooklyn To Glindran <http://jim= goodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com>*, a
new World/Free Jazz recording = by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.  Proceeds from
this CD will bene= fit *JDRF International <ht= tp://jdrf.org>*

*Tips Across the
Waters<http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/tips-across-the-wat= ers/id474128076?mt=3D8>
*, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wo= od and Wire Ware.



---981468583-273310940-1348146465=:91429-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 20 13:24:11 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 302BA183462; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 13:24:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 13:24:10 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kevinkissinger.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=uyyh9afxyzf8OVQFnDs5ZAPjmusA61SBBgxcPy+C1GI=; b=Vt/Y5HwuR+1g1e0UW97Ln7oT5xMn2wR6tqcmP8aDBg+UAeXGdOmHibH6tO/Y7G67yBtfEQmhoVGSGfG+2S98bz1DOcrVO4VyMUrSgblliq0xaIcPQ2rWaEA1Cr/uY6KF; Message-ID: <20120920081728.64744uflzlrgvkvc@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:17:28 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Performing at school Friday, random wave of low confidence has struck again References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3.11) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: <7QNZZC.A.MTB.6jxWQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118377 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 13:24:10 +0000 (UTC) Kaylon, To feel like you didn't have enough practice time is perfectly normal =20 despite the amount of practice time. To feel anxious before a performance is normal. However, feelings are just feelings -- they don't really mean anything. Most people, as they start to perform, get into the performance and =20 put the jitters behind them. Just visualize yourself performing with =20 a sense of inner peace. Enjoy! -- Kevin Quoting Jim Goodin : > Kaylon, keep going. Its all easy advice (something u should take > minimally in life :) ) to give hard to receive as your anxiety and > insecurities are high. Still it was your inner muse and true self > that scheduled the date so follow it through. It will be okay. Do > some closed eyes steadying of the hands visualizations to clame the > physical (info shared to me years ago when had a period of perform > anx) which can share more on if interest. Do the date, don't look > back and focus on creating the loops and the musIc within. This list > is here for you as they say. > > Jim > > On 9/20/12, kay'lon rushing wrote: >> I just spent 45 minutes "practicing" 3 songs for a lunch time performanc= e >> at my high school. Im not feeling so confident since i havent practiced = in >> WEEKS. >> I feel pretty dumb for even scheduling a performance knowing that i woul= dnt >> have very much time to practice. It feels almost like i forgot how to do >> what i usually would. >> > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > -- > *jimgoodin.com* - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, > color blue, repetitive minimalism' > > *The Recordings of Wood and Wire =20 > Music* - > 'Organically inspired New Music' > > *From Brooklyn To Glindran *, a > new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds fr= om > this CD will benefit *JDRF International * > > *Tips Across the > Waters > *, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 20 15:15:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1343183464; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 15:15:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=SpgYA3DZmgl9oH8Yunb7MGxQlmY4xpODrfeWBPAv7dk=; b=g5ayEu+nnSy5wLEBn4shzCxAxLcPGzlYNwe7FeTV8/wZhZGkDoM9HA55JzW+lakPzj L5WRablEOD9q6DrqZ5rT/zVf2/ANmOazXWGJlUAv4FTbsZeJybIeUnd1Im704Uu4aFvp lnuV33debX11l2PuDnBrWHGcy++iilznGTrW3filBEmGTuxKXQlp2Bix3uoShYEwRgkn 4eVEQ55OAgZMrY7X6yxatFxxLz33F2LlO8r0a4MUjqmofcPoN7OWOr3J/WHjjcwz0hsD saCwmXvzq5L520iIO3hEYroQ4CJs6aegg1bjKX4P9/G7ZLNyOmi5W5GFHm7LdKSgD6Qp n2iQ== References: <1348146465.91429.YahooMailNeo@web32505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: <1348146465.91429.YahooMailNeo@web32505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 17:15:38 +0200 Message-ID: <1949966086528671878@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: Performing at school Friday, random wave of low confidence has struck again To: loopers-delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118378 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 15:15:46 +0000 (UTC) Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 20 Sep 2012, at 15:07, bill bigrig wrote: > The time to woory is when you do not feel a little edgy. > Rig There's the best advice yet!!! Without the fear, you won't get the rush after the show... Hence all the drugs big names use... they need something to replace the rush. Coming off stage to a smattering of applause is what it's all about! good luck! Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 20 16:03:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9838183463; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:03:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-31-482591419 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: TC Electronic Flashback X 4 Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:02:58 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118379 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:03:06 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-31-482591419 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I guess these will be shipping very soon, I really like my flashback delay and this does look very intriguing, particularly the extra tone print slots which I think is one of the best ideas they have come up with in a long time, even if there is an exclusivity as to who gets to create these extra presets ( rock stars not named Bill Walker). I also like the ability to use the delays and looper simultaneously. Bill http://www.tcelectronic.com/flashback-x4-delay.asp --Apple-Mail-31-482591419 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  I guess these will be shipping very soon,
 I really like my flashback delay and this does look very intriguing, particularly the extra tone print slots which I think is one of the best ideas they have come up with in a long time, even if there is an exclusivity as to who gets to create these extra presets ( rock stars not named Bill Walker). I also like the ability to use the delays and looper simultaneously.
 Bill
--Apple-Mail-31-482591419-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 20 16:30:14 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 642C2183475; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:30:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 12:31:30 -0400 From: Douglas Baldwin Subject: Re: TC Electronic Flashback X 4 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <9F3A708F1C914DB1A41FA5AA579C6FC1@Bedroom> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Jh66vrOE1MO6krSY7Q57mw)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120920-0, 09/20/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean References: Resent-Message-ID: <8jsloD.A.lWD.VS0WQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118380 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:30:13 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_Jh66vrOE1MO6krSY7Q57mw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT i'M SORRY, BUT i JUST WET MY PANTS. And I left the Caps Lock on. The Flashback has.... MIDI IN and OUT!!!! Anybody have a price on this cute little blue bundle of repetitive joy? ----- Original Message ----- From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 12:02 PM Subject: TC Electronic Flashback X 4 I guess these will be shipping very soon, I really like my flashback delay and this does look very intriguing, particularly the extra tone print slots which I think is one of the best ideas they have come up with in a long time, even if there is an exclusivity as to who gets to create these extra presets ( rock stars not named Bill Walker). I also like the ability to use the delays and looper simultaneously. Bill http://www.tcelectronic.com/flashback-x4-delay.asp --Boundary_(ID_Jh66vrOE1MO6krSY7Q57mw) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
i'M SORRY, BUT i JUST WET MY PANTS. And I left the Caps Lock on.
The Flashback has.... MIDI IN and OUT!!!!
Anybody have a price on this cute little blue bundle of repetitive joy?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 12:02 PM
Subject: TC Electronic Flashback X 4

 I guess these will be shipping very soon,
 I really like my flashback delay and this does look very intriguing, particularly the extra tone print slots which I think is one of the best ideas they have come up with in a long time, even if there is an exclusivity as to who gets to create these extra presets ( rock stars not named Bill Walker). I also like the ability to use the delays and looper simultaneously.
 Bill
--Boundary_(ID_Jh66vrOE1MO6krSY7Q57mw)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 20 16:39:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 42F81183464; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:39:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 562 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:39:04 UTC X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEADNDW1AyaCAt/2dsb2JhbABFvRmDKQEBBDgCTwtGV4gcpkeTao4+gkBgA4hWkm6NRg X-Originating-IP: [50.104.32.45] X-Previous-IP: 50.104.32.45 Message-Id: From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: TC Electronic Flashback X 4 Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 11:29:00 -0500 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118381 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:39:05 +0000 (UTC) The only thing that seems to me to be mind-bogglingly stupid is only to have 3 presets. I love the sounds in the Flashback, and this model introduces a Tube Echo and a Space Echo setting plus, as you said, three tone print slots. But who--with all of that incredible delay goodness on tap--would only use 3 presets? I guess you can't have it all, but why in the world wouldn't they make a delay with all of these great tones that included 50-100 user preset slots? Shrug. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 20 17:03:59 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 17E5D183464; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 17:03:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 493005.17442.bm@omp1011.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1348160636; bh=RLhtzVWIjIPOpkNJi6wCDizLJVb4i2pQ5XS9kO86JvY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fUw2ndFLGLq8OPhCfsZqrxN/x1sacQoCuGwjR/Fo5fYNmupESriTPb5Yu3jWahwRm22lPMEHgHwfgxkCs2xze7RDiUUGN1P59Bg5qfA2GfobAM4pguU1H6JUh/BENWvjKGQqKBAQFgJ0qZOn/HMfwO+Tef816HYtiZGXW66dD/M= X-YMail-OSG: yUDajXUVM1mhqq0Yy0_QdPFs0th8iy_ALQAXF3Bs4IWnam1 91i4ATp8zHI1.iLqwedMOgA_IMusshlfYDVYFYJDt.IYs_YARSDdrrFojXiE i8OY.nnxf_2A_6H9HWPW8rZ6P09Fte8i38zy2a5P7szgp476yznk0zvXhKEv ONBWCk2KplYdb7KxpxMxdlBgE_V5UbQxtGF.j5rEFs6jVNUdcgT_PmM2gqDv .CDiiLlQTG.sSyNI_f2wGVQafjphNC9CFFljzNtcQsU45IbLfHb1jMcxf_Qs pw3lww1NTDSM9lkROZzJYD7HRlBa8pxiM4GKgvhDVtzcjP5fICAEjQcG72vt j8Of9APQEF2kwnMiBlKllia5fp0BDl_ucx6GtJEqyrQLBidORUCh7.fYBM5p pqJGbJis.e8Kb8xm6D5vW8wiYgcidKjU1YWyOVSUShZ7vQQyHXYzi8CWV4ZE TDq0ILj..c7T8yE9CDpKDyvEyLFYM26c6wB5jHgv0t0WoUuM1I05BjjSkidU - X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 Message-ID: <1348160636.51613.YahooMailClassic@web84519.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:03:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Mungenast Subject: Re: TC Electronic Flashback X 4 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118382 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 17:03:58 +0000 (UTC) Looks great, but I am holding out for half-speed and reverse for the loop. (Vox makes one that does that, but the interface looked too confusing for a quasi-Luddite like me ;-) --- On Thu, 9/20/12, Jeff Shirkey wrote: > From: Jeff Shirkey > Subject: Re: TC Electronic Flashback X 4 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Thursday, September 20, 2012, 12:29 PM > The only thing that seems to me to be > mind-bogglingly stupid is only to have 3 presets. I love the > sounds in the Flashback, and this model introduces a Tube > Echo and a Space Echo setting plus, as you said, three tone > print slots. But who--with all of that incredible delay > goodness on tap--would only use 3 presets? > > I guess you can't have it all, but why in the world wouldn't > they make a delay with all of these great tones that > included 50-100 user preset slots? > > Shrug. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 20 19:23:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A767183464; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 19:23:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <505B6D15.7070800@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 15:23:01 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen to Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8s85-C.A.JVF.a02WQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118383 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 19:23:06 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on Manikin Records. The Featured CD at Midnight will be disk one from "Second Decade 1992-2002." I will also play music by artist performing at the upcoming Soundscapes Concert Series. The Special Focus page is at: http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#sep Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 20 19:27:18 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2ADD8183462; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 19:27:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Q4JwuBwvcseNjO+OdFRdhRRAUxphxc1QiDdzTL28GoI=; b=lXvKVmUr8c+2BuXnpCUwhz8M47Z+3kZmq4dejt+SryfCHp1xUy2czRQ9qdhOGF6V8D /w8+lcBXct6tG/zBy+yVv/VcC2NAYy2PPk8ZeD2szJGASNitNMtboN0+E0tx9SvI1439 odtbPnepyYnm+4ZgHm7z4zV3SCxk+7GSBPhCx88MzJFd6Fvi1ItNXQKoY0nj2QBcjPw2 4vJMJrUU1XN+UadFWhMzzt1MB2J4B6Hp5TtdN9lhic+rVnm49dN1Ds3439vpp+VohFY0 qdqWrvm1IPZWxLagUH5v3+WHH2RBXH4k2i9pCyOyPIobM4J7mWTe9mAkbCzOoSRsEXwT xK6w== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1348160636.51613.YahooMailClassic@web84519.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1348160636.51613.YahooMailClassic@web84519.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 15:27:16 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: TC Electronic Flashback X 4 From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d040890177156de04ca271c28 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118384 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 19:27:18 +0000 (UTC) --f46d040890177156de04ca271c28 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Feedback for the looper for me. Also it says 'independent delay and looper engines' but there is a little toggle that say delay/looper..either or??? And can the ex ped control looper volume..? Another (I'm sure) great delay with a looper afterthought..sigh :) wants it all, Jeff On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Tim Mungenast wrote: > > Looks great, but I am holding out for half-speed and reverse for the loop. > (Vox makes one that does that, but the interface looked too confusing for a > quasi-Luddite like me ;-) > > > > --- On Thu, 9/20/12, Jeff Shirkey wrote: > > > From: Jeff Shirkey > > Subject: Re: TC Electronic Flashback X 4 > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Date: Thursday, September 20, 2012, 12:29 PM > > The only thing that seems to me to be > > mind-bogglingly stupid is only to have 3 presets. I love the > > sounds in the Flashback, and this model introduces a Tube > > Echo and a Space Echo setting plus, as you said, three tone > > print slots. But who--with all of that incredible delay > > goodness on tap--would only use 3 presets? > > > > I guess you can't have it all, but why in the world wouldn't > > they make a delay with all of these great tones that > > included 50-100 user preset slots? > > > > Shrug. > > > > > > --f46d040890177156de04ca271c28 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Feedback for the looper for me. Also it says 'independent delay and loo= per engines' but there is a little toggle that say delay/looper..either= or??? And can the ex ped control looper volume..?

Another (I'm = sure) great delay with a looper afterthought..sigh :)

wants it all,

Jeff

On Thu, Sep= 20, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Tim Mungenast <tmungenast@verizon.net> wrote:

Looks great, but I am holding out for half-speed and reverse for the loop. = (Vox makes one that does that, but the interface looked too confusing for a= quasi-Luddite like me ;-)



--- On Thu, 9/20/12, Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@frontier.com> wrote:

> From: Jeff Shirkey <jcshir= ke@frontier.com>
> Subject: Re: TC Electronic Flashback X 4
> To: Loopers-Del= ight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Thursday, September 20, 2012, 12:29 PM
> The only thing that seems to me to be
> mind-bogglingly stupid is only to have 3 presets. I love the
> sounds in the Flashback, and this model introduces a Tube
> Echo and a Space Echo setting plus, as you said, three tone
> print slots. But who--with all of that incredible delay
> goodness on tap--would only use 3 presets?
>
> I guess you can't have it all, but why in the world wouldn't > they make a delay with all of these great tones that
> included 50-100 user preset slots?
>
> Shrug.
>
>


--f46d040890177156de04ca271c28-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 20 20:27:26 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1471C183462; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 20:27:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=/mGTuqio6OfDRGgQZjZwQQQxF3Vn9VfBypBc8d7ETD8=; b=w9Gh8/KcCsaeK9QzfX3jDnerKLwsm4Fx1NBfaU83gKuSjDos6RWjBAiMpPwaB35tL8 TybwxtQFkaPA43RgiZSIU+C8P1ecQ9W7ap6LnqvJsV586ukemfkF3tsbN2YYhvaApmPt vecvjvN36Ep0BAfU2B0z5aFNiaiwiFQ+W7N+Ea1j7n/t/MSy9Na8myqdXpokBb+XiFjg tVyqaAiDX6tb/OHZEMiJXoYotDFfoiUwOvJkYHbdnjMA0UWGTOTVuFcMSOmXsIntu6j1 X3wNLFsmOuF+KSwPG4E8Xyvtf+o4I85t3cbu0X3qKn+xs4ERu33vmVrZjg81rDzOvgfX ENVA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1348160636.51613.YahooMailClassic@web84519.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: Torben Scharling Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 22:26:43 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: TC Electronic Flashback X 4 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e0cb4efe2a7a7cca8c04ca27f33a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118385 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 20:27:25 +0000 (UTC) --e0cb4efe2a7a7cca8c04ca27f33a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Side question to the X4 talk - is there a good software equivalent to the ducking delay effect it has (they call it Dynamic delay), for OS X, that you guys like to use? (The effect that ducks while singing/playing, and then the delay effect comes on after you've stopped playing...) --e0cb4efe2a7a7cca8c04ca27f33a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Side question to the X4 talk - is there a good software equivalent to the d= ucking delay effect it has (they call it Dynamic delay), for OS X, that you= guys like to use? (The effect that ducks while singing/playing, and then t= he delay effect comes on after you've stopped playing...)
--e0cb4efe2a7a7cca8c04ca27f33a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 20 20:58:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C50E183462; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 20:58:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_9eaf31dc-4395-4155-b92c-9284ac6ce098_" X-Originating-IP: [92.231.13.142] From: Sergio G Sender: To: Subject: For Sale: Boomerang III and other things Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 20:58:24 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Sep 2012 20:58:23.0881 (UTC) FILETIME=[AC71AF90:01CD9772] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118386 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 20:58:24 +0000 (UTC) --_9eaf31dc-4395-4155-b92c-9284ac6ce098_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear delighters=2C the Octatrack opened a new world of possibilities to me=2C and so I now hav= e things which I do not need anymore. - Boomerang III with Side Car: I still resist a bit to let it go because it= was my first looper and you can't forget your first looper=2C but I really= do not need it.Never ever went out of my room=2C treated as a queen=2C new= as a new one can be=2C used actually few times. - Mackie DFX 6 Mixer:it is much sturdier than my Mackie ProFX8=2C and I hav= e the impression that even quieter. But the ProFX8 has got usb and I prefer= to keep that one=2C in case my audio interface fails one day. - Korg MicroSampler:it is not a looper because it can't sample and play bac= k immediately like a looper=2C you must record the loop and press play. But= it is a nice sampler with lot of cool features=2C effects=2C time stretchi= ng=2C pitch shift=2C etc. I would like to keep it because I still had no ti= me to experiment with it enough=2C but honestly=2C with the Octatrack=2C I = am covered. And I prefer to have cash for things which I really miss. - Lexicon ALEX digital effect processor: few to say. Well=2C one thing=2C I= do not have the power adapter=2C I bought it without=2C and I am using the= one of another gear. - TC Electronic VoiceTone Create: collection of effects for the voice. I li= ke it a lot but I have already so many effects... - Faderfox LV2: I have found out that for the Octatrack I need a controller= which can assign a different midi channel to each fader/knob. The Faderfox= can't (of course=2C it was thought for Ableton=2C and it is perfect for it= ). So=2C I prefer to get a controller which I can use with both Ableton and= Octatrack. - Digitech Vocalist II (with footswitch) or TC Helicon VoiceTone H1: I can'= t decide which one to keep=2C so=2C the first one which is requested=2C goe= s. The quality of harmonies is the same. The Digitech has got midi in/out/t= hrough and line in/out=2C so can work with guitar or keyboard. The H1 can o= nly work with guitar and makes only two voices (but it is smaller and light= er). - Korg iS50B Interactive Music Workstation:my first music teacher. The firs= t music I made=2C it was with it=2C no computer=2C no software=2C all compo= sed and edited within this keyboard. Some of the sounds are outdated=2C but= many of them I find them very beautiful. But=2C again=2C with a midi keybo= ard and Ableton's synth=2C I just do not need it... That's it.Prices are all speakable=2C so=2C just contact me privately and l= et's talk about it. I live in Germany=2C as for what concerns shipping. Ser = --_9eaf31dc-4395-4155-b92c-9284ac6ce098_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear delighters=2C

the Octatrack opened a new world of possibi= lities to me=2C and so I now have things which I do not need anymore.
=

- Boomerang III with Side Car: =3B
I stil= l resist a bit to let it go because it was my first looper and you can't fo= rget your first looper=2C but I really do not need it.
Never ever= went out of my room=2C treated as a queen=2C new as a new one can be=2C us= ed actually few times.

- Mackie DFX 6 Mixer:
=
it is much =3Bsturdier =3Bthan my Mackie ProFX8=2C and I have = the impression that even =3Bquieter. But the ProFX8 has got usb and I p= refer to keep that one=2C in case my audio interface fails one day.

- Korg MicroSampler:
it is not a looper because= it can't sample and play back immediately like a looper=2C you must record= the loop and press play. But it is a nice sampler with lot of cool feature= s=2C effects=2C time stretching=2C pitch shift=2C etc. I would like to keep= it because I still had no time to experiment with it enough=2C but honestl= y=2C with the Octatrack=2C I am covered. And I prefer to have cash for thin= gs which I really miss.

- Lexicon ALEX digital eff= ect processor: =3B
few to say. Well=2C one thing=2C I do not = have the power adapter=2C I bought it without=2C and I am using the one of = another gear.

- TC Electronic VoiceTone Crea= te: =3B
collection of effects for the voice. I like it a lot = but I have already so many effects...

- Faderfox L= V2: =3B
I have found out that for the Octatrack I need a cont= roller which can assign a different midi channel to each fader/knob. The Fa= derfox can't (of course=2C it was thought for Ableton=2C and it is perfect = for it). So=2C I prefer to get a controller which I can use with both Ablet= on and Octatrack.

- Digitech Vocalist II (with foo= tswitch) or TC Helicon VoiceTone H1: =3B
I can't decide which= one to keep=2C so=2C the first one which is requested=2C goes. The quality= of harmonies is the same. The Digitech has got midi in/out/through and lin= e in/out=2C so can work with guitar or keyboard. The H1 can only work with = guitar and makes only two voices (but it is smaller and lighter).

- =3BKorg iS50B Interactive Music Workstation:
my first music teacher. The first music I made=2C it was with it=2C no co= mputer=2C no software=2C all composed and edited within this keyboard. Some= of the sounds are outdated=2C but many of them I find them very beautiful.= But=2C again=2C with a midi keyboard and Ableton's synth=2C I just do not = need it...


That's it.
Pri= ces are all speakable=2C so=2C just contact me =3Bprivately =3Band = let's talk about it.

I live in Germany=2C as for w= hat =3Bconcerns =3Bshipping.

Ser
= --_9eaf31dc-4395-4155-b92c-9284ac6ce098_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 21 04:00:14 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFE34183461; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 04:00:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: To: References: <006b01cd96eb$c1d62410$45826c30$@michaelplishka.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: Pseudo OT - Which comes first? Language or Music? Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 23:00:11 -0500 Message-ID: <001801cd97ad$98fc2450$caf46cf0$@michaelplishka.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQJTgovU+vi6clYQR1HsMKNSZkqVvgKqmyoHlnL5KmA= Content-Language: en-us x-vipre-scanned: 141A93CF003364141A951C X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118387 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 04:00:14 +0000 (UTC) Per, Didn't know that about the "Chime in" center. Re: Dinosaurs, Provocative thought. To think that Barney might be the = image of an alternate future!! ;-) ~peace~ Mike -----Original Message----- From: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 5:56 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Pseudo OT - Which comes first? Language or Music? Thanks. Interesting! Chomsky never made that connection with music as = far as I know. Another interesting detail, that wasn't mentioned in that = article, is the brain processing unit that opens the possibility to = listen to sound through the ears and instantly chime in ("comment") with = your speech organs. Only humans and birds have that brain part. >From this one may guess that maybe also the dinosaurs had this = simultaneous "chiming-in" capability? Would they have developed language = with abstract concepts if not wiped out of the loop? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 6:52 AM, wrote: > In light of some recent discussion, I came across this article and=20 > thought I=E2=80=99d share: > > > > http://www.news-medical.net/news/20120919/Music-underlies-the-ability- > to-acquire-language.aspx > > > > > > > > ~peace~ > > Mike > > > > > > > > www.michaelplishka.com > > www.scribbledmusings.com > > www.zenstorming.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 21 04:03:04 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5EB0D183464; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 04:03:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=VVN9mHcftx70iiB2rhV3eHWB5bI39nJ7OGkcEr6TQZB584+bQcc075KTt16vZCXs; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001801cd97ad$98fc2450$caf46cf0$@michaelplishka.com> References: <006b01cd96eb$c1d62410$45826c30$@michaelplishka.com> <001801cd97ad$98fc2450$caf46cf0$@michaelplishka.com> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 00:02:53 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: RE: Pseudo OT - Which comes first? Language or Music? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79f860bb5114938075cdacfdaf8a60cd05350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: <5mEpYD.A.daC.1b-WQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118388 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 04:03:03 +0000 (UTC) >From: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com] > >... Another interesting detail, that wasn't mentioned in that >article, is the brain processing unit that opens the possibility to >listen to sound through the ears and instantly chime in ("comment") >with your speech organs. Only humans and birds have that brain >part... Tell that to my Cat...! -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 21 05:06:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D45F183464; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 05:06:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=CRn8f+XuWVrUvB+mP0EHsgvt1/9gC4yhlmllJ58R89U=; b=UpPUzefeDy5oIsz9oS3/qKZg3Om35m86chfJPO/t+0d4o/E1iCK0goMI020FZJo1lQ ko4Aq7MVx+zTfIh9g7bc3uU+sJ7cMx5BYBjTtcstb/kWXp7N+OCOSHkbzbfy3hZ9nI1O d93A1W1bImPKxNc/HrZQDBv/ZbEAq0vk+P4ZR4WeMJrNfzVgmjECZfRfoUeYbiMOeR4u MtNjI7LgzkYjhTR4GNtG+Ot4SfMzBcM6IWidsqe03IzjX0CTdmLo94KwqpdGOFrkBsDJ QqxvyOWPx170G4dIDuRiJ2NgCPTd5PcDBhRXgJPq3HgA/hojeiRgZoUUwRO1V3UvE1JO TlBg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1949966086528671878@unknownmsgid> References: <1348146465.91429.YahooMailNeo@web32505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1949966086528671878@unknownmsgid> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 22:06:11 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Performing at school Friday, random wave of low confidence has struck again From: "kay'lon rushing" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043c7ebcd3947204ca2f326f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118389 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 05:06:13 +0000 (UTC) --f46d043c7ebcd3947204ca2f326f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I swear this mailing list seems like a family sometimes. Thank you guys! On Sep 20, 2012 8:15 AM, "mark francombe" wrote: > Sent from my (advertisement removed) > > On 20 Sep 2012, at 15:07, bill bigrig wrote: > > > The time to woory is when you do not feel a little edgy. > > Rig > > There's the best advice yet!!! > Without the fear, you won't get the rush after the show... Hence all > the drugs big names use... they need something to replace the rush. > Coming off stage to a smattering of applause is what it's all about! > good luck! > > Mark > > --f46d043c7ebcd3947204ca2f326f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I swear this mailing list seems like a family sometimes. Thank you guys!=

On Sep 20, 2012 8:15 AM, "mark francombe&qu= ot; <markfrancombe@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
Sent from my (advertisement removed)

On 20 Sep 2012, at 15:07, bill bigrig <billbigrig@yahoo.com> wrote:

> The time to woory is when you do not feel a little edgy.
> Rig

There's the best advice yet!!!
Without the fear, you won't get the rush after the show... Hence all the drugs big names use... they need something to replace the rush.
Coming off stage to a smattering of applause is what it's all about! good luck!

Mark

--f46d043c7ebcd3947204ca2f326f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 21 07:49:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5DCD183464; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 07:49:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1348213744; bh=cxdhLwQVeij+2w02zEHvgF2NcepN2axdcfmLUfD0PiI=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Date:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Message-Id:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer; b=1VdCitbCnwHxicw6iwbinfocEe6e9EXfGQZgO40Om1fFLiH+AxZCSspwi88kQhFsfqD0jCsSW5TCz3UYnvn0K8XRGF50ZA9XaFk0deHrTkWO7TNH/1l9BraLAiKCwtqNGHLj0eMQoFh1VZTMTEx4bqNgeTqmH+X0y9Iid0pm+zY= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 903286.99358.bm@smtp152.mail.ukl.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: j_G1olwVM1nd69WOOhYPUufKJ2VALSkUjo_10n4BOJc6KE6 gwxnF02cRaABeEdHcFXEF5JRWvsRkvdouoKMBfEzD7agii_0wENji2wtUSSN 7lG2sKBmq8x9oZn.ttVaWn6biSpazdwR.kNJl1g9jE1Yra..nCx4OkhIXZJL 6NYGSmrpIrMw16O1I4yvjKzEHjQk1wvXpDp67CLv_5Ihz2aMpAX366xsjCj2 NasQz.dOY.Bl2G30PyQ8DIic9J1.ozOMCLktfSjP4HTHiKCC9p3skExskfxp w3nRbheOEOU6Et.xW6lDLOYFgDSS8XCE8dnLFfVPP5QfU4csz9DtWt6LEkDr qzPUtfsH3r5EIJbUu_Ey4NVtY.Xc7nAce5Y4rMQBiEsYSE8wgBfhnBQnDKU. BWh2uz.k1uBgXPXLZHAcSPfE0nBVIu_I1UUN5N7H.S14HrTzwMYQuTWrpL1I .XkHhrRoIpGUJBgWfHS48myeI6BC9wDCnV3j9KGDOpfH_57xPgb_lB9PJ2uk TKZZIEpSq X-Yahoo-SMTP: 75CdczOswBChen.W3AbLhaW8TlC96TVo5w-- From: Ben To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 09:49:04 +0200 Subject: Re: TC Electronic Flashback X 4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <20120921094904.EBB7ECB8.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: nPOPuk Ver 2.16 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118390 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 07:49:06 +0000 (UTC) I hope too that one day they'll let us have the editor. After all is already something with a GUI, it's not like you would have to enter hexadecimal number or write assembler code. If they don't do it that way, I'm sure somehone will soon try to hack the iphone sound stream. I'm happy it has midi too. As anyone compared the flashback to the strymon timeline? I was thinking of getting the strymon but I'm not too sure about how smooth the time parameter can be changed. A lot of video shows a stepped entry knob. Ben. -------------------------------------------------- William Walker wrote: (20/09/2012 18:02) > I guess these will be shipping very soon, > I really like my flashback delay and this does look very intriguing, > particularly the extra tone print slots which I think is one of the > best ideas they have come up with in a long time, even if there is an > exclusivity as to who gets to create these extra presets ( rock stars > not named Bill Walker). I also like the ability to use the delays and > looper simultaneously. > Bill > http://www.tcelectronic.com/flashback-x4-delay.asp From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 21 09:12:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C93818345B; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 09:12:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1348218756; bh=jf1v3BG9cVsg7pOg3ThxI7TaQsBcmA5FNER0JJrDguY=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-Id:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer; b=fQ8n19fL9IErTo6yWhxDgoZLAbj4Qm37ZwVvxzeFknRGW7DhLN+kfnUqdF/4RYRcxCXC30nQfwxHc+61HkehHtu+bsL0KLp0Kz0mTEY9PNC3AXMlpL2ErAc6698uN7jM1WuCmLGz35gNcGd6Ld/SYcdT7CkWOm1IDA7b03YPdUM= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 755153.97623.bm@smtp126.mail.ukl.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: kS3U9.wVM1mbA_l5VCCDNxDhi3RKmzFCIKXNxE6nWZac3be U8Tr2hqrxAAIJ5HjGVMXfRtsoXnfXBSgTemdPUJ28Vl0AaaAbb87X2Ryo.Rw _Wsp1_WJaDdRf6lZ2yXkBwrY1PthF.jJwi27YOXjdZG7PikBqCJvg2zf1D91 93cCD2qdg.ZCzTP5Xw.5jKTcbj1MasO3u8HU_ew.I0jR9kZDuGZMnOgWkjGI HpMVWcvE28L51OhEF6OQEJzzF0NvJ9uZfRtAiRmNVlNggkIQ.7lmFBpc9qsq kWMxX.V8nTGyQrY5Q87cdh2ng1DJsvC.CGKFGYdMwIW.qv0bub1nnHZPHRLA qSbfsqBvTmvz1pqQteoxhuJxfizRssdsaofa4cvKsXvK6twXvydXZQtRkfoc kM1rGVMLHyuSb4yZqmcaiwKDhQL45wDAFkA9P7B5JOwq1Bu.NyXAQN4SEHu0 ceQNgsTuBkHJQXRa2kZYu.RVreQBeDwl5vgkijS0eZF4diThBe9hbhJAIdut FQ0mvOJUq X-Yahoo-SMTP: 75CdczOswBChen.W3AbLhaW8TlC96TVo5w-- From: Ben To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 11:12:36 +0200 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?DigiTech=E2=80=99s=20JamMan=20Solo=20XT?= Message-Id: <20120921111236.5D19F828.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: nPOPuk Ver 2.16 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118391 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 09:12:38 +0000 (UTC) Hello, A new looper from digitech: stereo looping Seamless transitions between looped phrases ?? Auto-Record, Auto-Quantize, adjustable BPMs, and three different Stop modes. JamSync to link JamMan Solo XTs and create multi-looping systems USB + micro SD http://www.digitech.com/en-US/products/jamman-solo-xt# Ben From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 21 10:19:14 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E88A1183466; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 10:19:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=xBJTKcV5XLlSNJkFZ4QfZBfo2YF+m0PhEph18NxHnbg=; b=GnugtPkqYynCXgDRDV1mxI+SgBsDEmstj9YVuW7F+Qfc3P9umsfWKhsGednwq/KcIY N6KgsJVaX+yeyOh0LtAwsGrXDewpRG99pN0K11us7ctGN3irnIMSOycMUqc0LzrlD+gL iz7zne4glnPkk83PUdajrWOmR4eSID0wf6fo/ZSykQgc1KTCS229+1NGOidrHXLyeoXC GLEOMJm7+iAw1P8VtlZ1MiTX2diC3B97p4EkZT3CFrjhq1fQNPoAuN9fD6UdGJrm/z2x dVXlG/o+yj1EJVhgk18OmQCAtPcsXUl5WnPdgIziu5gfcDOUD2D2qDIviW+mIOyQiuiZ cUSQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20120921111236.5D19F828.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> References: <20120921111236.5D19F828.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:19:12 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_DigiTech=E2=80=99s_JamMan_Solo_XT?= From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54d476842804d04ca339222 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118392 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 10:19:13 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec54d476842804d04ca339222 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 There's a little less shallow description available at http://www.digitech.com/en-US/news/digitech-redefines-looping-possibilities-with-introduction-of-jamman-solo-xt I'm finding this the most interesting with this box: The JamMan Solo XT features a unique pedal-linking capability called > JamSync. For multi-phrase looping, a guitarist can link together two JamMan > Solo XTs and record different length phrases in each while staying in > perfect sync. Link together three JamMans and the JamSync will provide > three synced phrases, and so on. Loopers can now use as many phrases as > they need to create intricate loop layering. Bands can now use looping by > linking together individual looper pedals and having each member control > their own loop contributions giving the looping market a whole new meaning. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Ben wrote: > Hello, > > A new looper from digitech: > > stereo looping > Seamless transitions between looped phrases ?? > Auto-Record, Auto-Quantize, adjustable BPMs, and three different Stop > modes. > JamSync to link JamMan Solo XTs and create multi-looping systems > USB + micro SD > > http://www.digitech.com/en-US/products/jamman-solo-xt# > > Ben > --bcaec54d476842804d04ca339222 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There's a little less shallow description available at
http://www.digitech.com/en-US/news/dig= itech-redefines-looping-possibilities-with-introduction-of-jamman-solo-xt

I'm finding this the most interesting with this box:

The JamMan Solo XT features a unique pedal-linking capability called JamSyn= c. For multi-phrase looping, a guitarist can link together two JamMan Solo = XTs and record different length phrases in each while staying in perfect sy= nc. Link together three JamMans and the JamSync will provide three synced p= hrases, and so on. =C2=A0Loopers can now use as many phrases as they need t= o create intricate loop layering. =C2=A0Bands can now use looping by linkin= g together individual looper pedals and having each member control their ow= n loop contributions giving the looping market a whole new meaning.
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.youtube.com/perboysen


On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at= 11:12 AM, Ben <benoitruelle@ya= hoo.fr> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> A new looper from digitech:
>
> ste= reo looping
> Seamless transitions between looped phrases ??
> = Auto-Record, Auto-Quantize, adjustable BPMs, and three different Stop
> modes.
> JamSync to link JamMan Solo XTs and create multi-loopin= g systems
> USB + micro SD
>
> http://www.digitech.com/en-US/prod= ucts/jamman-solo-xt#
>
> Ben
>
--bcaec54d476842804d04ca339222-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 21 10:30:03 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C33C7183473; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 10:30:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <20120921111236.5D19F828.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8AE130DE-1ACC-4DE0-A494-43AFF25B815C Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) From: Z Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_DigiTech=E2=80=99s_JamMan_Solo_XT?= Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:29:54 +0200 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: <-vJLN.A._6F.rGEXQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118393 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 10:30:03 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-8AE130DE-1ACC-4DE0-A494-43AFF25B815C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 what I like is when they say they've been doing jamman loops for three decad= es... they kind of forgot Jamman was Lexicon before they bought the brand a few ye= ars back marketing magic! ;) Le 21 sept. 2012 =C3=A0 12:19, Per Boysen a =C3=A9crit= : > There's a little less shallow description available at=20 > http://www.digitech.com/en-US/news/digitech-redefines-looping-possibilitie= s-with-introduction-of-jamman-solo-xt >=20 > I'm finding this the most interesting with this box:=20 >=20 > The JamMan Solo XT features a unique pedal-linking capability called JamSy= nc. For multi-phrase looping, a guitarist can link together two JamMan Solo X= Ts and record different length phrases in each while staying in perfect sync= . Link together three JamMans and the JamSync will provide three synced phra= ses, and so on. Loopers can now use as many phrases as they need to create i= ntricate loop layering. Bands can now use looping by linking together indiv= idual looper pedals and having each member control their own loop contributi= ons giving the looping market a whole new meaning. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Ben wrote: > > Hello, > > > > A new looper from digitech: > > > > stereo looping > > Seamless transitions between looped phrases ?? > > Auto-Record, Auto-Quantize, adjustable BPMs, and three different Stop > > modes. > > JamSync to link JamMan Solo XTs and create multi-looping systems > > USB + micro SD > > > > http://www.digitech.com/en-US/products/jamman-solo-xt# > > > > Ben > > --Apple-Mail-8AE130DE-1ACC-4DE0-A494-43AFF25B815C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
what I like is when they s= ay they've been doing jamman loops for three decades...
they kind of forg= ot Jamman was Lexicon before they bought the brand a few years back
marketing magic!
;)


Le 21 sept. 2012 =C3=A0= 12:19, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmai= l.com> a =C3=A9crit :

There's a little less shallow description available at
http://www.digitech.com/en-US/new= s/digitech-redefines-looping-possibilities-with-introduction-of-jamman-solo-= xt

I'm finding this the most interesting with this box:

The JamMan Solo XT features a unique pedal-linking capability called JamSync= . For multi-phrase looping, a guitarist can link together two JamMan Solo XT= s and record different length phrases in each while staying in perfect sync.= Link together three JamMans and the JamSync will provide three synced phras= es, and so on.  Loopers can now use as many phrases as they need to cre= ate intricate loop layering.  Bands can now use looping by linking toge= ther individual looper pedals and having each member control their own loop c= ontributions giving the looping market a whole new meaning.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.youtube.com/perboysen


On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11= :12 AM, Ben <benoitruelle@yahoo.= fr> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> A new looper from digitech:
>
> ster= eo looping
> Seamless transitions between looped phrases ??
> Au= to-Record, Auto-Quantize, adjustable BPMs, and three different Stop
> modes.
> JamSync to link JamMan Solo XTs and create multi-looping= systems
> USB + micro SD
>
> http://www.digitech.com/en-US/product= s/jamman-solo-xt#
>
> Ben
>
= --Apple-Mail-8AE130DE-1ACC-4DE0-A494-43AFF25B815C-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 21 10:36:39 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4804A183464; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 10:36:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=rGXcMDR8CIk5ufM/yCOfVN4HoNf0LLqGiQwntI7qIOU=; b=wjpSTBysoVHexDX5KN7hY9XCXv2bPf+3ZWGTpJynTYBmMYKlnA4or18fVpgIuq8r91 OkRc1RLvqj2BkezqKY4Qjscrc6Q4DaVurrpluYRIhQSI5gnb3iffna7JxB9FBDGvrsie r7xBQ6cA4og9HFDVi1vDkuOldUe7PLxPdKkL+/vWqhWGTQjfVFoFavNTY2Vzvozme/tK 0UJtnT1DLuwapKEMRy+69S1Kuz+fQIrFWvVakelbtEA4IVO7QiVArj55OoW5vSa4xjeZ LhTZ5hkFIBXOVYRYP0arPCZRVp6PQUAjcuihwgNIP5k51PVH1cl3dQRB1JrnwDBmF3GN H0hg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20120921111236.5D19F828.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:36:38 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_DigiTech=E2=80=99s_JamMan_Solo_XT?= From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec550aea8942e9904ca33d024 Resent-Message-ID: <_MxGND.A.7HG.2MEXQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118394 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 10:36:39 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec550aea8942e9904ca33d024 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, I noticed that too... they are trying to re-write history for marketing ;-) Quite stupid. But it doesn't make the peda less good - if it happens to be good. The Jamman (the original by Lexicon) was my my fav looper before I got hold of an EDP. Per On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Z wrote: > what I like is when they say they've been doing jamman loops for three > decades... > they kind of forgot Jamman was Lexicon before they bought the brand a few > years back > marketing magic! > ;) > > > Le 21 sept. 2012 =C3=A0 12:19, Per Boysen a =C3=A9c= rit : > > There's a little less shallow description available at > > http://www.digitech.com/en-US/news/digitech-redefines-looping-possibiliti= es-with-introduction-of-jamman-solo-xt > > I'm finding this the most interesting with this box: > > The JamMan Solo XT features a unique pedal-linking capability called >> JamSync. For multi-phrase looping, a guitarist can link together two Jam= Man >> Solo XTs and record different length phrases in each while staying in >> perfect sync. Link together three JamMans and the JamSync will provide >> three synced phrases, and so on. Loopers can now use as many phrases as >> they need to create intricate loop layering. Bands can now use looping = by >> linking together individual looper pedals and having each member control >> their own loop contributions giving the looping market a whole new meani= ng. > > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Ben wrote: > > Hello, > > > > A new looper from digitech: > > > > stereo looping > > Seamless transitions between looped phrases ?? > > Auto-Record, Auto-Quantize, adjustable BPMs, and three different Stop > > modes. > > JamSync to link JamMan Solo XTs and create multi-looping systems > > USB + micro SD > > > > http://www.digitech.com/en-US/products/jamman-solo-xt# > > > > Ben > > > > --bcaec550aea8942e9904ca33d024 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, I noticed that too... they are trying to re-write history for marketin= g ;-) =C2=A0Quite stupid. But it doesn't make the peda less good - if i= t happens to be good. The Jamman (the original by Lexicon) was my my fav lo= oper before I got hold of an EDP.

Per



On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Z <zzz@zzz.c= h> wrote:
what I like is when they say they've been= doing jamman loops for three decades...
they kind of forgot Jamman was = Lexicon before they bought the brand a few years back
marketing m= agic!
;)


Le 21 sept. 2012 =C3=A0 12:19, Per Boysen <= ;perboysen@gmail.c= om> a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:

There's a little less shallow description available at
http://w= ww.digitech.com/en-US/news/digitech-redefines-looping-possibilities-with-in= troduction-of-jamman-solo-xt

I'm finding this the most interesting with this box:

The JamMan Solo XT features a unique pedal-linking capability called JamSyn= c. For multi-phrase looping, a guitarist can link together two JamMan Solo = XTs and record different length phrases in each while staying in perfect sy= nc. Link together three JamMans and the JamSync will provide three synced p= hrases, and so on. =C2=A0Loopers can now use as many phrases as they need t= o create intricate loop layering. =C2=A0Bands can now use looping by linkin= g together individual looper pedals and having each member control their ow= n loop contributions giving the looping market a whole new meaning.
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.youtube.com/perboysen


On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Ben <benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> A new looper from digitech:
>
> ste= reo looping
> Seamless transitions between looped phrases ??
> = Auto-Record, Auto-Quantize, adjustable BPMs, and three different Stop
> modes.
> JamSync to link JamMan Solo XTs and create multi-loopin= g systems
> USB + micro SD
>
> http://www.digit= ech.com/en-US/products/jamman-solo-xt#
>
> Ben
>

--bcaec550aea8942e9904ca33d024-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 21 11:54:33 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1BF5183464; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 11:54:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Z Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A4D9773A-49CC-4812-831A-DC4ED449C53D" Subject: =?windows-1252?Q?Re=3A_DigiTech=92s_JamMan_Solo_XT?= Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:54:30 +0200 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <20120921111236.5D19F828.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> Message-Id: <2979F5E1-E95F-4DD4-9C07-56DF8C71CE33@zzz.ch> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118395 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 11:54:33 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_A4D9773A-49CC-4812-831A-DC4ED449C53D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Same for me except I switched to the Electrix Repeater at the time. The price for the Solo XT multi pedal setup seems a bit steep however=85 Looking forwards to try it. :D Z On 21 sept. 2012, at 12:36, Per Boysen wrote: > Yes, I noticed that too... they are trying to re-write history for = marketing ;-) Quite stupid. But it doesn't make the peda less good - if = it happens to be good. The Jamman (the original by Lexicon) was my my = fav looper before I got hold of an EDP. >=20 > Per >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Z wrote: > what I like is when they say they've been doing jamman loops for three = decades... > they kind of forgot Jamman was Lexicon before they bought the brand a = few years back > marketing magic! > ;) >=20 >=20 > Le 21 sept. 2012 =E0 12:19, Per Boysen a =E9crit = : >=20 >> There's a little less shallow description available at=20 >> = http://www.digitech.com/en-US/news/digitech-redefines-looping-possibilitie= s-with-introduction-of-jamman-solo-xt >>=20 >> I'm finding this the most interesting with this box:=20 >>=20 >> The JamMan Solo XT features a unique pedal-linking capability called = JamSync. For multi-phrase looping, a guitarist can link together two = JamMan Solo XTs and record different length phrases in each while = staying in perfect sync. Link together three JamMans and the JamSync = will provide three synced phrases, and so on. Loopers can now use as = many phrases as they need to create intricate loop layering. Bands can = now use looping by linking together individual looper pedals and having = each member control their own loop contributions giving the looping = market a whole new meaning. >>=20 >> Greetings from Sweden >>=20 >> Per Boysen >> www.perboysen.com >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >>=20 >>=20 >> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Ben wrote: >> > Hello, >> > >> > A new looper from digitech: >> > >> > stereo looping >> > Seamless transitions between looped phrases ?? >> > Auto-Record, Auto-Quantize, adjustable BPMs, and three different = Stop >> > modes. >> > JamSync to link JamMan Solo XTs and create multi-looping systems >> > USB + micro SD >> > >> > http://www.digitech.com/en-US/products/jamman-solo-xt# >> > >> > Ben >> > >=20 --Apple-Mail=_A4D9773A-49CC-4812-831A-DC4ED449C53D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Same = for me except I switched to the Electrix Repeater at the time.
The = price for the Solo XT multi pedal setup seems a bit steep = however=85
Looking forwards to try = it.
:D
Z

On 21 sept. 2012, = at 12:36, Per Boysen wrote:

Yes, I = noticed that too... they are trying to re-write history for marketing = ;-)  Quite stupid. But it doesn't make the peda less good - if it = happens to be good. The Jamman (the original by Lexicon) was my my fav = looper before I got hold of an EDP.

Per



On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Z = <zzz@zzz.ch> wrote:
what I like is when they say they've been = doing jamman loops for three decades...
they kind of forgot Jamman = was Lexicon before they bought the brand a few years = back
marketing magic!
;)


Le 21 sept. 2012 =E0 12:19, Per Boysen = <perboysen@gmail.com> a = =E9crit :

There's a little less shallow description available = at
http://www.digitech.com/en-US/news/digitech-redefines-lo= oping-possibilities-with-introduction-of-jamman-solo-xt

I'm finding this the most interesting with this box: =

The JamMan Solo XT features a unique pedal-linking capability called = JamSync. For multi-phrase looping, a guitarist can link together two = JamMan Solo XTs and record different length phrases in each while = staying in perfect sync. Link together three JamMans and the JamSync = will provide three synced phrases, and so on.  Loopers can now use = as many phrases as they need to create intricate loop layering. =  Bands can now use looping by linking together individual looper = pedals and having each member control their own loop contributions = giving the looping market a whole new meaning.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.youtube.com/perboysen


On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Ben <benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> A new looper from digitech:
>
> = stereo looping
> Seamless transitions between looped phrases = ??
> Auto-Record, Auto-Quantize, adjustable BPMs, and three = different Stop
> modes.
> JamSync to link JamMan Solo XTs and create = multi-looping systems
> USB + micro SD
>
> http://www.digitech.com/en-US/products/jamman-solo-xt#
>
> Ben
>


= --Apple-Mail=_A4D9773A-49CC-4812-831A-DC4ED449C53D-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 21 12:22:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 097B4183460; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:22:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <505C5C02.8070807@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 08:22:26 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #807 for September 20, 2012. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118396 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:22:45 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/120920.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #807 September 20, 2012. WDIY Playlist: http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels?playlist_date=09-20-2012 RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Manikin Records. The Featured CD at Midnight was disk one from "Second Decade 2002-2012." http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#sep I also played music by an artist who will appear at the next installment of the Soundscapes Concert Series. http://soundscapes.us/gt/events.html PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) VA [Tim Motzer] April 16, 2011 Home Patterning (Periphery) Markus Reuter and Spiral Mnoeuvre Dervish (DiN) Ian Boddy Numina Our Elegant The Deception of Reality Experience (Hypnos) Booth & Creek Lightwave Lightwaves (none) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [Raughi] Prelude Second Decade disk 1 (Manikin) VA [Fanger and Snap Shot Second Decade disk 1 (Manikin) Schonwalder] VA [PicturePalace Saint Paul's Second Decade disk 1 (Manikin) Music] Cathedral Chorus Girl VA [W.A. dePhul] Sun Gate Second Decade disk 1 (Manikin) VA [Kagermann and DE 7208 Second Decade disk 1 (Manikin) Keller] VA [Thomas Fanger] Schone Landschaft Second Decade disk 1 (Manikin) VA [Rainbow Serpent] Improvised Music Second Decade disk 1 (Manikin) VA [Broekhuis, Vienna Calling Second Decade disk 1 (Manikin) Keller and Schonwalder] VA [Cosmic Hoffmann] Guitarmoon Second Decade disk 1 (Manikin) VA [Filterkaffee] Zeitmaschine Second Decade disk 1 (Manikin) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long focus on Manikin Records. The Featured CD at Midnight will be disk two from "Second Decade 2002-2012." I will also play music by one of the artists who will appear at the next installment of the Soundscapes Concert Series. WDIY Announcement: http://wdiy.org/post/next-galactic-travels-2012-09-27 Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 21 12:49:57 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C2596183464; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:49:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=6OhVAJlKflynwesfUbnsr9ITeMGQtE6lFeQKInPefUo=; b=i68tZwUBMtxW8ryQumZY3bYi1J+YNTK8Lk61T4EHvk1JwVX6lh4je8rRdGDWAmm+9m hBUx/t14tIWlMRiguVkTVj+vKtOeivN332LRcgbWTGYRPgdjQfwIZNW/YSrD3O2PUK5d P7I7BOCBKOJBP6BrEgb6DS7JSLpvgqozoD2ss6rVvtnz2DOlOPgKWF+gNG9h611MX0rS ccH4KI4DkWkYdFaOHk6kGpVmJncW/LSOhxStLx1RmN21axttwRUjQsXppPFe264jZhDf RTGUypUmIbLWgdcsBZk3c878QAANzHZuCpBGCH7kP2iV4xOYAfLRFaETnMrfn4+/AOKY bnoA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2979F5E1-E95F-4DD4-9C07-56DF8C71CE33@zzz.ch> References: <20120921111236.5D19F828.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> <2979F5E1-E95F-4DD4-9C07-56DF8C71CE33@zzz.ch> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:49:56 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_DigiTech=E2=80=99s_JamMan_Solo_XT?= From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54d476851fe6004ca35ad5b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118397 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:49:57 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec54d476851fe6004ca35ad5b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, I never "switched", just added a Repeater to back up the EDP for more parallel loops. Yes a bit pricey solution, three Solo XT's equal what you had to pay for a Repeater back in the day. I'm so happy all that can now happen within my laptop :-) Per On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Z wrote: > Same for me except I switched to the Electrix Repeater at the time. > The price for the Solo XT multi pedal setup seems a bit steep however=E2= =80=A6 > Looking forwards to try it. > :D > Z > > On 21 sept. 2012, at 12:36, Per Boysen wrote: > > Yes, I noticed that too... they are trying to re-write history for > marketing ;-) Quite stupid. But it doesn't make the peda less good - if = it > happens to be good. The Jamman (the original by Lexicon) was my my fav > looper before I got hold of an EDP. > > Per > > > > On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Z wrote: > >> what I like is when they say they've been doing jamman loops for three >> decades... >> they kind of forgot Jamman was Lexicon before they bought the brand a fe= w >> years back >> marketing magic! >> ;) >> >> >> Le 21 sept. 2012 =C3=A0 12:19, Per Boysen a =C3=A9= crit : >> >> There's a little less shallow description available at >> >> http://www.digitech.com/en-US/news/digitech-redefines-looping-possibilit= ies-with-introduction-of-jamman-solo-xt >> >> I'm finding this the most interesting with this box: >> >> The JamMan Solo XT features a unique pedal-linking capability called >>> JamSync. For multi-phrase looping, a guitarist can link together two Ja= mMan >>> Solo XTs and record different length phrases in each while staying in >>> perfect sync. Link together three JamMans and the JamSync will provide >>> three synced phrases, and so on. Loopers can now use as many phrases a= s >>> they need to create intricate loop layering. Bands can now use looping= by >>> linking together individual looper pedals and having each member contro= l >>> their own loop contributions giving the looping market a whole new mean= ing. >> >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.perboysen.com >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Ben wrote: >> > Hello, >> > >> > A new looper from digitech: >> > >> > stereo looping >> > Seamless transitions between looped phrases ?? >> > Auto-Record, Auto-Quantize, adjustable BPMs, and three different Stop >> > modes. >> > JamSync to link JamMan Solo XTs and create multi-looping systems >> > USB + micro SD >> > >> > http://www.digitech.com/en-US/products/jamman-solo-xt# >> > >> > Ben >> > >> >> > > --bcaec54d476851fe6004ca35ad5b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, I never "switched", just added a Repeater to back up the ED= P for more parallel loops. Yes a bit pricey solution, three Solo XT's e= qual what you had to pay for a Repeater back in the day. I'm so happy a= ll that can now happen within my laptop :-)=C2=A0

Per



On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Z <zzz@zzz.ch= > wrote:
Same for me except I switched to the El= ectrix Repeater at the time.
The price for the Solo XT multi pedal setu= p seems a bit steep however=E2=80=A6
Looking forwards to try it.<= /div>
:D
Z

On 21 sept. 2012, at 12:36, Per Boys= en wrote:

Yes, I noticed that too... the= y are trying to re-write history for marketing ;-) =C2=A0Quite stupid. But = it doesn't make the peda less good - if it happens to be good. The Jamm= an (the original by Lexicon) was my my fav looper before I got hold of an E= DP.

Per



On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Z <zzz@zzz.c= h> wrote:
what I like is when they say they've been= doing jamman loops for three decades...
they kind of forgot Jamman was = Lexicon before they bought the brand a few years back
marketing m= agic!
;)


Le 21 sept. 2012 =C3=A0 12:19, Per Boysen <= ;perboysen@gmail.c= om> a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:

There's a little less shallow description available at
http://w= ww.digitech.com/en-US/news/digitech-redefines-looping-possibilities-with-in= troduction-of-jamman-solo-xt

I'm finding this the most interesting with this box:

The JamMan Solo XT features a unique pedal-linking capability called JamSyn= c. For multi-phrase looping, a guitarist can link together two JamMan Solo = XTs and record different length phrases in each while staying in perfect sy= nc. Link together three JamMans and the JamSync will provide three synced p= hrases, and so on. =C2=A0Loopers can now use as many phrases as they need t= o create intricate loop layering. =C2=A0Bands can now use looping by linkin= g together individual looper pedals and having each member control their ow= n loop contributions giving the looping market a whole new meaning.
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.youtube.com/perboysen


On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Ben <benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> A new looper from digitech:
>
> ste= reo looping
> Seamless transitions between looped phrases ??
> = Auto-Record, Auto-Quantize, adjustable BPMs, and three different Stop
> modes.
> JamSync to link JamMan Solo XTs and create multi-loopin= g systems
> USB + micro SD
>
> http://www.digit= ech.com/en-US/products/jamman-solo-xt#
>
> Ben
>



--bcaec54d476851fe6004ca35ad5b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 21 13:53:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FFF3183465; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:53:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_b87eb475-8ced-4398-9bd8-a6ca05fa19a5_" X-Originating-IP: [217.92.117.212] From: Sergio G Sender: To: Subject: FW: For Sale: Boomerang III and other things Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:53:32 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Sep 2012 13:53:33.0717 (UTC) FILETIME=[7D891450:01CD9800] Resent-Message-ID: <10x1cD.A.VY.fFHXQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118398 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:53:35 +0000 (UTC) --_b87eb475-8ced-4398-9bd8-a6ca05fa19a5_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Update: Side Car sold (thanks and have fun!) So=2C corrected list: - Boomerang III: I still resist a bit to let it go because it was my first = looper and you can't forget your first looper=2C but I really do not need i= t.Never ever went out of my room=2C treated as a queen=2C new as a new one = can be=2C used actually few times. - Mackie DFX 6 Mixer:it is much sturdier than my Mackie ProFX8=2C and I hav= e the impression that even quieter. But the ProFX8 has got usb and I prefer= to keep that one=2C in case my audio interface fails one day. - Korg MicroSampler:it is not a looper because it can't sample and play bac= k immediately like a looper=2C you must record the loop and press play. But= it is a nice sampler with lot of cool features=2C effects=2C time stretchi= ng=2C pitch shift=2C etc. I would like to keep it because I still had no ti= me to experiment with it enough=2C but honestly=2C with the Octatrack=2C I = am covered. And I prefer to have cash for things which I really miss. - Lexicon ALEX digital effect processor: few to say. Well=2C one thing=2C I= do not have the power adapter=2C I bought it without=2C and I am using the= one of another gear. - TC Electronic VoiceTone Create: collection of effects for the voice. I li= ke it a lot but I have already so many effects... - Faderfox LV2: I have found out that for the Octatrack I need a controller= which can assign a different midi channel to each fader/knob. The Faderfox= can't (of course=2C it was thought for Ableton=2C and it is perfect for it= ). So=2C I prefer to get a controller which I can use with both Ableton and= Octatrack. - Digitech Vocalist II (with footswitch) or TC Helicon VoiceTone H1: I can'= t decide which one to keep=2C so=2C the first one which is requested=2C goe= s. The quality of harmonies is the same. The Digitech has got midi in/out/t= hrough and line in/out=2C so can work with guitar or keyboard. The H1 can o= nly work with guitar and makes only two voices (but it is smaller and light= er). - Korg iS50B Interactive Music Workstation:my first music teacher. The firs= t music I made=2C it was with it=2C no computer=2C no software=2C all compo= sed and edited within this keyboard. Some of the sounds are outdated=2C but= many of them I find them very beautiful. But=2C again=2C with a midi keybo= ard and Ableton's synth=2C I just do not need it... That's it.Prices are all speakable=2C so=2C just contact me privately and l= et's talk about it. I live in North Germany=2C as for what concerns shipping. Ser = --_b87eb475-8ced-4398-9bd8-a6ca05fa19a5_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Update:

Side Car sold (thanks an= d have fun!)

So=2C corrected list:

- Boomerang III: =3B
I still resist a bit = to let it go because it was my first looper and you can't forget your first= looper=2C but I really do not need it.
Never ever went out of my= room=2C treated as a queen=2C new as a new one can be=2C used actually few= times.

- Mackie DFX 6 Mixer:
it is much=  =3Bsturdier =3Bthan my Mackie ProFX8=2C and I have the impression = that even =3Bquieter. But the ProFX8 has got usb and I prefer to keep t= hat one=2C in case my audio interface fails one day.

- Korg MicroSampler:
it is not a looper because it can't sampl= e and play back immediately like a looper=2C you must record the loop and p= ress play. But it is a nice sampler with lot of cool features=2C effects=2C= time stretching=2C pitch shift=2C etc. I would like to keep it because I s= till had no time to experiment with it enough=2C but honestly=2C with the O= ctatrack=2C I am covered. And I prefer to have cash for things which I real= ly miss.

- Lexicon ALEX digital effect processor:&= nbsp=3B
few to say. Well=2C one thing=2C I do not have the power = adapter=2C I bought it without=2C and I am using the one of another gear.

- TC Electronic VoiceTone Create: =3B
collection of effects for the voice. I like it a lot but I have alre= ady so many effects...

- Faderfox LV2: =3B
I have found out that for the Octatrack I need a controller which ca= n assign a different midi channel to each fader/knob. The Faderfox can't (o= f course=2C it was thought for Ableton=2C and it is perfect for it). So=2C = I prefer to get a controller which I can use with both Ableton and Octatrac= k.

- Digitech Vocalist II (with footswitch) or TC = Helicon VoiceTone H1: =3B
I can't decide which one to keep=2C= so=2C the first one which is requested=2C goes. The quality of harmonies i= s the same. The Digitech has got midi in/out/through and line in/out=2C so = can work with guitar or keyboard. The H1 can only work with guitar and make= s only two voices (but it is smaller and lighter).

- =3BKorg iS50B Interactive Music Workstation:
my first musi= c teacher. The first music I made=2C it was with it=2C no computer=2C no so= ftware=2C all composed and edited within this keyboard. Some of the sounds = are outdated=2C but many of them I find them very beautiful. But=2C again= =2C with a midi keyboard and Ableton's synth=2C I just do not need it...


That's it.
Prices are all s= peakable=2C so=2C just contact me =3Bprivately =3Band let's talk ab= out it.

I live in North Germany=2C as for what&nbs= p=3Bconcerns =3Bshipping.


Ser<= /div>
= --_b87eb475-8ced-4398-9bd8-a6ca05fa19a5_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 21 17:47:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F683183464; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 17:47:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Performing at school Friday, random wave of low confidence has struck again In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: michael klobuchar X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CF663854B6872C_E48_64558_webmail-stg-m02.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37001-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CF663854AAA04C-E48-1964A@webmail-stg-m02.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [68.162.146.136] Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:47:41 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1348249661; bh=gCcMYn0wmNv+tZxw+qQvVSI+FZ4ZLMSHLGCCAfNUYJ4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nrs0XLpajMq1caNB9/6TQrjax1aqxVc8EwbDoTJBgUUIlLDFVciNH1ezyOB0yNi6v cWGUVFjdx/OJdKzdCp3jYZrkR2tU0jOFMLw5f9HT3v7t9Q43ZSu9GnmQSstN0eyZXm vtq5u9Tx2v9K6tVZ5HdGWJlvIA5FGFCWQQx1LU8I= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:380596768:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d505ca83d5adb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118399 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 17:47:46 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CF663854B6872C_E48_64558_webmail-stg-m02.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" after not playing for awhile, i find that picking up an instrument, the fir= st time, is a whole different experience, fresh new ideas both compositionally and dexterity wise.....breaks are good= .....i know i'm late to the party but how did the gig go?.....sometimes you got to just jump in and go for it....= .and remember, breaks are not good! =20 ----------MB_8CF663854B6872C_E48_64558_webmail-stg-m02.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" after not playing for awhile, i fin= d that picking up an instrument, the first time, is a whole different exper= ience,

fresh new ideas both compo= sitionally and dexterity wise.....breaks are good.....i know i'm late to th= e party but

how did the gig go?.....so= metimes you got to just jump in and go for it.....and remember, breaks are = not good!


 ----------MB_8CF663854B6872C_E48_64558_webmail-stg-m02.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 21 18:03:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8BA99183466; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 18:03:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: For Sale: Boomerang III and other things In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: michael klobuchar X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CF663A8E91F36C_E48_64B2D_webmail-stg-m02.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37001-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CF663A8E886DEC-E48-197AA@webmail-stg-m02.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [68.162.146.136] Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:03:37 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1348250617; bh=3UM/hRfQpcOF7YqmWNcu3gNEgmI8P2LI1N2ZFGntM0M=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=E36YPEjNfgOBfGvGc6fqis81VYFroJiaLsFa+lfZHx7lLuhanM9xBk6MZExOsZqYb 1+dIUMaT4AbemwC8NmIAfpI3rx2RlXWkxt9rEMcg5zre+b2u1eC81/rI25eJxcGf2q H1qwH6KdpPqc/Ksh3SEExtnENnCc7EEn212DvgKE= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:317318560:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cc505cabf91527 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118400 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 18:03:38 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CF663A8E91F36C_E48_64B2D_webmail-stg-m02.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" sergio.....put the rang/sidecar back into their boxes and stash them in a d= rawer..... keep them.....you will regret it if you sell them.....one can never have to= o many loopers, they are all different in their wonderfulness.....the nites, i sit crying o= ver some of my=20 "children" that were sold, are many..... =09=09 =09 =09=09 =20 =20 ----------MB_8CF663A8E91F36C_E48_64B2D_webmail-stg-m02.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" sergio.....put the rang/sidecar bac= k into their boxes and stash them in a drawer.....

keep them.....you will reg= ret it if you sell them.....one can never have too many loopers,

they are all different in = their wonderfulness.....the nites, i sit crying over some of  my =

"children" that were sold,= are many.....


=09=09 =09 =09=09
----------MB_8CF663A8E91F36C_E48_64B2D_webmail-stg-m02.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 21 18:17:48 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C48D5183466; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 18:17:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 994153.16471.bm@omp1001.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1348251467; bh=q8ogCflrZnCal6AOnltSofpWLI+MmOPH8mI0TZhhfJE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dU3kKmJLMeqApe7+YPj925c6YV0CHETCxTHTBd4Yu8ll8j2SbaUIWUD8CXCJtKrR6rkIgF9U/b+UFjuLZyztqbAbq3OcYolWi98BzSj0gWkbwXQeE5zMTogH9FwJYWbKTnEnIARfebvOx2iXvj7quoIh4d5MkCco4hH2pG+5SpY= X-YMail-OSG: zN3fjRwVM1lZrYvs6JKd0E4nmhQeE1EBu1Ne2jWR1WuMlhe vpuJBNfBfgRRAuvqvjlUjVKt0flbRS6MdZk29QYYEDXYhuebhLEE5y9X_SiN 2BEq_O1Y1d_4S0KWFYM3Dwn.w1HIruof_zq_aXwY7.ssN6tRyWyOMvOMnknq l060swmY6ejN3rh2xJvZk7nlGtUZzyTxPqQeqTQrHfxOLx9IhdcCQLZxCtke A0Y14zUdE.hvzpiCdg1UjK6ZJJKk.U4LHLehXS03YzLTyK7qfwZNGMnVos0H RrgQuHva1eWCpFBQaHbURPFdHs5.Uyb12U2jkDfe7KGnS5D58KrFNhjDbmkB fyHeUDjgXHDv4q7Nef8u05NX9.xHQdYrf9y7FqUwCTyVWNK6MP6GgeniX7Pb 7.6YQQNF6bKvlzg6NiLql2KbRtudhPr4Q6ep2FC6B4P2hQpUC3pTtgGc.2hm ishGLcZgBhF75Le1.2jsMqb7_elkiZw8fzihwg.sd4q3u9GCA_zSVrAtQNiK w8HcBffbx0FdrTEPvo_n4BPRTFWQISVbL8YpEtIzXoe1SC7SrK5EFjERmKa_ x0nwotyJe2_LkCtkd31V8GbCSkLdwTsgTAtwGhnjAhSph4Goo2YwWc1LF7oE eSrNzEmSFG2Vk4rpL4257AlpioksbhilTdr9ByXyWBfja2tlvri9cZ8DBUBG d5w5wilwO X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 Message-ID: <1348251467.59791.YahooMailClassic@web84520.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 11:17:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Mungenast Subject: Re: For Sale: Boomerang III and other things To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <8CF663A8E886DEC-E48-197AA@webmail-stg-m02.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="683666909-1887529836-1348251467=:59791" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118401 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 18:17:48 +0000 (UTC) --683666909-1887529836-1348251467=:59791 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable YEAH, WHAT MICHAEL SAID. :-) Tim Mungenast Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast --- On Fri, 9/21/12, michael klobuchar wrote: From: michael klobuchar Subject: Re: For Sale: Boomerang III and other things To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Friday, September 21, 2012, 2:03 PM sergio.....put the rang/sidecar back into their boxes and stash them in a d= rawer.....=0A =0A=0A=0Akeep them.....you will regret it if you sell them.....one can neve= r have too many loopers,=0A=0A =0A=0A=0Athey are all different in their wonderfulness.....the nites, i sit= crying over some of =A0my=A0=0A=0A =0A=0A=0A"children" that were sold, are many..... =0A =0A =0A=0A =0A=0A=0A =09=09 =09 =09=09 =0A=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A --683666909-1887529836-1348251467=:59791 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

YEAH, WHAT MICHAEL SAID. :-)

Ti= m Mungenast
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--- On Fri, 9/21/12, michael klobu= char <nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:

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Subject: Re: For Sale: Boomera= ng III and other things
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Date:= Friday, September 21, 2012, 2:03 PM

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--683666909-1887529836-1348251467=:59791-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 21 18:34:02 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A1B8183462; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 18:34:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=F5TWadFxTzb/kNiXrz+W6RbgAevp5wdQ0UlHDSQk6I0=; b=TNL5k/nC0BM7XHOZDQxl3zyWQIxPIefF9+O4BIxi0gIyQ3YQfyqo7SPi5Hioz7Nsxb SW/QZg26jfXsJskYqGQc2VvM905ZoxGGb/pnhcn40M8GzuXxLwIVbpOoOpNQMd+/jPBw 7iBtfMonOxr+bQs2iLeQYEW4fFX1YH8ngka0gFs+jBAgnX20XBneadDv2MaZiswyaeer vtXbPq3vtqsOvGuGognzijBo8nDY06LemWSXntR3OOFxvrZ/CO+FK/C4GXw+aJcXSDVs 7O3Ow5tX+ow0Nc+XNwO89D/7+JugdGdnZpJ2hPdqNtdLy9BovM8cMVYqfFgRVhqP7Ypo ojcw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CF663854AAA04C-E48-1964A@webmail-stg-m02.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CF663854AAA04C-E48-1964A@webmail-stg-m02.sysops.aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:34:01 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Performing at school Friday, random wave of low confidence has struck again From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043890a9d0fb3204ca3a7bc1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118402 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 18:34:01 +0000 (UTC) --f46d043890a9d0fb3204ca3a7bc1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kay'lon all good things and knock em dead as they say (with loops :) ). Let us know how it went...l. On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:47 PM, michael klobuchar wrote= : > after not playing for awhile, i find that picking up an instrument, the > first time, is a whole different experience, > > fresh new ideas both compositionally and dexterity wise.....breaks are > good.....i know i'm late to the party but > > how did the gig go?.....sometimes you got to just jump in and go for > it.....and remember, breaks are not good! > > > > --=20 --=20 *jimgoodin.com* - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive minimalism' *The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music* - 'Organically inspired New Music' *From Brooklyn To Glindran *, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from this CD will benefit *JDRF International * *Tips Across the Waters *, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware. --f46d043890a9d0fb3204ca3a7bc1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kay'lon all good things and knock em dead as they say (with loops :) ).= =A0 Let us know how it went...l.

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Tips Across the Waters, a= new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.

--f46d043890a9d0fb3204ca3a7bc1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 21 18:37:19 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCCE4183464; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 18:37:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_37b5e43b-50a2-4328-91fa-1b4761eac79e_" X-Originating-IP: [92.224.175.109] From: Sergio G Sender: To: Subject: RE: For Sale: Boomerang III and other things Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 18:37:17 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <1348251467.59791.YahooMailClassic@web84520.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <8CF663A8E886DEC-E48-197AA@webmail-stg-m02.sysops.aol.com>,<1348251467.59791.YahooMailClassic@web84520.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Sep 2012 18:37:18.0644 (UTC) FILETIME=[212EC740:01CD9828] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118403 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 18:37:19 +0000 (UTC) --_37b5e43b-50a2-4328-91fa-1b4761eac79e_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable :)I understand you perfectly. I am still fond of the Rang.But I have the OT= =2C Ableton (with the possibility of Mobius)=2C the Kaoss Pad 3=2C the Micr= oSampler till I do not sell it=2C and will have=2C in the future to buy a b= atteries operated looper.I am quitting my job to have time to do Music whic= h is what I really love (and being not a trained musician I really need to = practice a lot)=2C so have to be careful with money.And I still have to buy= other things.Sorry=2C but these things must go=2C Rang included.The Side C= ar anyway is already gone. Paid out=2C tomorrow morning it travels :)=20 But yes. I had that thought... Date: Fri=2C 21 Sep 2012 11:17:47 -0700 From: tmungenast@verizon.net Subject: Re: For Sale: Boomerang III and other things To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com YEAH=2C WHAT MICHAEL SAID. :-) Tim Mungenast Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenastGuitarist/Compos= er/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast --- On Fri=2C 9/21/12=2C michael klobuchar wrote: From: michael klobuchar Subject: Re: For Sale: Boomerang III and other things To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Friday=2C September 21=2C 2012=2C 2:03 PM sergio.....put the rang/sidecar back into their boxes and stash them in a d= rawer..... keep them.....you will regret it if you sell them.....one can never have to= o many loopers=2C they are all different in their wonderfulness.....the nites=2C i sit crying= over some of my=20 "children" that were sold=2C are many..... =20 =20 = --_37b5e43b-50a2-4328-91fa-1b4761eac79e_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
:)
I understand you perfectly. I am still fond of the Rang.
B= ut I have the OT=2C Ableton (with the possibility of Mobius)=2C the Kaoss P= ad 3=2C the MicroSampler till I do not sell it=2C and will have=2C in the f= uture to buy a batteries operated looper.
I am quitting my job to= have time to do Music which is what I really love (and being not a trained= musician I really need to practice a lot)=2C so have to be careful with mo= ney.
And I still have to buy other things.
Sorry=2C but= these things must go=2C Rang included.
The Side Car anyway is al= ready gone. Paid out=2C tomorrow morning it travels :) =3B

But y= es. I had that thought...
Date: Fri=2C 21 Sep 2012 11:17:47 -0700
From: tmung= enast@verizon.net
Subject: Re: For Sale: Boomerang III and other things<= br>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com


YEAH=2C WHAT MICHAEL SAID. :-)

Tim Mungenast
Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast<= /span>
Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbn= ation.com/timmungenast

--- On Fri=2C 9/21/12=2C michael kl= obuchar <=3Bnemoguitt@aol.com>=3B wrote:

From: michael klobuchar <=3B= nemoguitt@aol.com>=3B
Subject: Re: For Sale: Boomerang III and other t= hings
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Friday=2C Septemb= er 21=2C 2012=2C 2:03 PM

sergio.....put the rang/sidecar b= ack into their boxes and stash them in a drawer.....

keep them...= ..you will regret it if you sell them.....one can never have too many loope= rs=2C

they are all= different in their wonderfulness.....the nites=2C i sit crying over some o= f  =3Bmy =3B

"children" t= hat were sold=2C are many.....



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= = --_37b5e43b-50a2-4328-91fa-1b4761eac79e_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 21 20:34:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A6C5183464; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 20:34:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; bh=T58gyX0t7ggnK6J9SxkrxWJdLhOUI2l0H0QDzXbSA7g=; b=RgIzvMvzmeTEQs392lWMowm1MrIT/NNZGxkFQd6ahc63rU145keruNbJrz21lD1mNv ZMBRFb9LDGHP1pM004wKzxmHvSvESRjScoHRY92W2ScIbJVWhkxSbNJjnSobqPFm4Tt8 V1D1MdiwZqtc951n3wNMPuVcgfBjMuEVeXPWBvGI3sqZxHZYI0FiEvaS54vuKKjfFCM9 d8RUWHi2dnSasc5qjR5XN5WO+G0Ih1tT2ft8g/iRafBYVbU7H9rmKazK5ZNCB7UB2zkY +q+GaDbKV+wpyW7kf67vJcIDssmuzjMCti0Tz+ZGXsR55YKR0yD5AwjbOR2BqR7CsKVa vc4A== Message-ID: <505CCF50.2040002@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 22:34:24 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBXaWVybm93b2xza2k=?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120827 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: =?UTF-8?B?RGlnaVRlY2jigJlzIEphbU1hbiBTb2xvIFhU?= References: <20120921111236.5D19F828.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070405040706090004010602" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118404 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 20:34:27 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070405040706090004010602 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The most intriguing part is the label printed on the device - "Phaser Sampler" :) > There's a little less shallow description available at > http://www.digitech.com/en-US/news/digitech-redefines-looping-possibilities-with-introduction-of-jamman-solo-xt > > I'm finding this the most interesting with this box: > > The JamMan Solo XT features a unique pedal-linking capability > called JamSync. For multi-phrase looping, a guitarist can link > together two JamMan Solo XTs and record different length phrases > in each while staying in perfect sync. Link together three JamMans > and the JamSync will provide three synced phrases, and so on. > Loopers can now use as many phrases as they need to create > intricate loop layering. Bands can now use looping by linking > together individual looper pedals and having each member control > their own loop contributions giving the looping market a whole new > meaning. > > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Ben > wrote: > > Hello, > > > > A new looper from digitech: > > > > stereo looping > > Seamless transitions between looped phrases ?? > > Auto-Record, Auto-Quantize, adjustable BPMs, and three different Stop > > modes. > > JamSync to link JamMan Solo XTs and create multi-looping systems > > USB + micro SD > > > > http://www.digitech.com/en-US/products/jamman-solo-xt# > > > > Ben > > --------------070405040706090004010602 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
The most intriguing part is the label printed on the device - "Phaser Sampler"  :)

There's a little less shallow description available at
http://www.digitech.com/en-US/news/digitech-redefines-looping-possibilities-with-introduction-of-jamman-solo-xt

I'm finding this the most interesting with this box:

The JamMan Solo XT features a unique pedal-linking capability called JamSync. For multi-phrase looping, a guitarist can link together two JamMan Solo XTs and record different length phrases in each while staying in perfect sync. Link together three JamMans and the JamSync will provide three synced phrases, and so on.  Loopers can now use as many phrases as they need to create intricate loop layering.  Bands can now use looping by linking together individual looper pedals and having each member control their own loop contributions giving the looping market a whole new meaning.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.youtube.com/perboysen


On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Ben <benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> A new looper from digitech:
>
> stereo looping
> Seamless transitions between looped phrases ??
> Auto-Record, Auto-Quantize, adjustable BPMs, and three different Stop
> modes.
> JamSync to link JamMan Solo XTs and create multi-looping systems
> USB + micro SD
>
> http://www.digitech.com/en-US/products/jamman-solo-xt#
>
> Ben
>

--------------070405040706090004010602-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 21 20:36:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F8EF183463; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 20:36:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Z Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_6BAEBDC2-F626-4603-87C6-874425644F8C" Subject: =?windows-1252?Q?Re=3A_DigiTech=92s_JamMan_Solo_XT?= Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 22:36:35 +0200 In-Reply-To: <505CCF50.2040002@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <20120921111236.5D19F828.benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> <505CCF50.2040002@gmail.com> Message-Id: <3674CF7F-1D5E-4A52-AE6C-19BF1EA57449@zzz.ch> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118405 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 20:36:36 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_6BAEBDC2-F626-4603-87C6-874425644F8C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 haha that means 'photoshop', probably not in the factory yet! very good observation indeed! :D z zzz@zzz.ch - http://zzz.ch On 21 sept. 2012, at 22:34, Micha=C5=82 Wiernowolski wrote: > The most intriguing part is the label printed on the device - "Phaser = Sampler" :) >=20 >> There's a little less shallow description available at=20 >> = http://www.digitech.com/en-US/news/digitech-redefines-looping-possibilitie= s-with-introduction-of-jamman-solo-xt >>=20 >> I'm finding this the most interesting with this box:=20 >>=20 >> The JamMan Solo XT features a unique pedal-linking capability called = JamSync. For multi-phrase looping, a guitarist can link together two = JamMan Solo XTs and record different length phrases in each while = staying in perfect sync. Link together three JamMans and the JamSync = will provide three synced phrases, and so on. Loopers can now use as = many phrases as they need to create intricate loop layering. Bands can = now use looping by linking together individual looper pedals and having = each member control their own loop contributions giving the looping = market a whole new meaning. >>=20 >> Greetings from Sweden >>=20 >> Per Boysen >> www.perboysen.com >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >>=20 >>=20 >> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Ben wrote: >> > Hello, >> > >> > A new looper from digitech: >> > >> > stereo looping >> > Seamless transitions between looped phrases ?? >> > Auto-Record, Auto-Quantize, adjustable BPMs, and three different = Stop >> > modes. >> > JamSync to link JamMan Solo XTs and create multi-looping systems >> > USB + micro SD >> > >> > http://www.digitech.com/en-US/products/jamman-solo-xt# >> > >> > Ben >> > >=20 --Apple-Mail=_6BAEBDC2-F626-4603-87C6-874425644F8C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 haha = that means 'photoshop', probably not in the factory yet!
very good = observation indeed!
:D
z

On 21 sept. 2012, at 22:34, Micha=C5=82 Wiernowolski = wrote:

=20 =20
The most intriguing part is the label printed on the device - "Phaser Sampler"  :)

There's a little less shallow description available = at
http://www.digitech.com/en-= US/news/digitech-redefines-looping-possibilities-with-introduction-of-jamm= an-solo-xt

I'm finding this the most interesting with this box:

The JamMan Solo XT features a unique pedal-linking capability called JamSync. For multi-phrase looping, a guitarist can link together two JamMan Solo XTs and record different length phrases in each while staying in perfect sync. Link together three JamMans and the JamSync will provide three synced phrases, and so on.  Loopers can now use as many phrases as they need to create intricate loop layering.  Bands can now use looping by = linking together individual looper pedals and having each member control their own loop contributions giving the looping market a whole new meaning.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.youtube.com/perboysen=


On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Ben <benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> A new looper from digitech:
>
> stereo looping
> Seamless transitions between looped phrases ??
> Auto-Record, Auto-Quantize, adjustable BPMs, and three different Stop
> modes.
> JamSync to link JamMan Solo XTs and create multi-looping systems
> USB + micro SD
>
> http://www= .digitech.com/en-US/products/jamman-solo-xt#
>
> Ben
>


= --Apple-Mail=_6BAEBDC2-F626-4603-87C6-874425644F8C-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 21 21:28:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 38971183464; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 21:28:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=QQ7d923onwq5JgzaSOIS2pIFkP0WZ8f2S/y+ioSXAdI=; b=wufynPTIcRbnHxAJFVOM7lYuLyzwRNgfZvBf2L02G9+YgQahRIIm7XbLyBP22DaPqK ZUrgtnhlQQCN3NS/7X4d11MUg+XTj45DuE8/B3KnQqymvpgKNCHkvpynFiYKYIDq1kvR D+iK7H8ykgpGN3mfzvhM3lM11Fz2UFopEDkoYpUPNn2pA+lowBvHrrhhWTM03RUI1sl3 Q+DVU3gIZaWggV6qhn0Re+LF8hiyou5ypwp6+/AGOWyTUZrKzJXVjr4Ha2NCyjSz38TM R32P124a6HcOhGw7ot4lj6k31CtO4hMvNmgdmgBRYPjX7EI5VLjEK1kO5gj4Xzg+FnFU hGrg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 17:28:10 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Silver Apples live From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d040711c5aa3cda04ca3ceaae Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118406 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 21:28:12 +0000 (UTC) --f46d040711c5aa3cda04ca3ceaae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Mark Francombe asked me to shoot a note to you. He is broadcasting this show live with his phone from the venue! *I am broadcasting live at http://ustre.am/vXS4 come and check it out!* --f46d040711c5aa3cda04ca3ceaae Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Mark Francombe asked me to shoot a note to you. He is broadcasting this show live with his phone from the venue!


I am broadcasting live at http://ustre.am/vXS4 come and check it out!


--f46d040711c5aa3cda04ca3ceaae-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 22 02:46:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51462183464; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 02:46:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Cdya8x5qNj4Eaix+N2tVOoUot6xfer5Q32KBHw7nWFc=; b=N9ymRjASIaMfI1PjjO/ygtCVqAB/sNy4riTSpnPVEddTQwvfDgVtxsSguGuvJoUdRK 43L0heNcEjdSGc/WwU16B6PeWK2qAoAJwz0SKR5Az+0+LIn+CZVig+HqpJfHgMcNG+GQ oLDlhA91gHDRw3zlPO2lIHLHEiMEOBlxdYtyxbmkQ/VxnDRbaEySzpOpI/jb6TyceYfd y13Zh2AJWt7848tHhx1voVq0BcB1EuRrSlGj+EpZ3D/UEUPnYp6CJk2w4+KoH4NIb22z hGw3GY4fa8rTyVdodOJMM3DcNPa8SF6+4+MMUhERsHtDz2dppkDkcvfnZ4fpd+dJrgAg ZpGw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <8CF663854AAA04C-E48-1964A@webmail-stg-m02.sysops.aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:46:18 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Performing at school Friday, random wave of low confidence has struck again From: "kay'lon rushing" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf302077dc6426fa04ca415cd1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118407 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 02:46:20 +0000 (UTC) --20cf302077dc6426fa04ca415cd1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It went OK. Not terrible not great. I had quite a few setbacks such as huge sun glare on my computer so the screen was absolutely useless. Also i think my midi controllers had a few malfunctions because of the heat. Sometimes the faders wouldnt work and sometimes switching instrument patches seemed like it wasnt working instantly like it should have either. Overall It was a good experience. For one, it was my longest looping performance so far (about 12-14 minutes). Students didnt even give an applause after I was done but whatever, I enjoyed it the feeling of being brave and encouraged enough to follow through. I consider this an opportunity I had to share my music as someone mentioned before me, rather than to "put on a performance"= . On Sep 21, 2012 11:34 AM, "Jim Goodin" wrote: > Kay'lon all good things and knock em dead as they say (with loops :) ). > Let us know how it went...l. > > On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:47 PM, michael klobuchar wro= te: > >> after not playing for awhile, i find that picking up an instrument, the >> first time, is a whole different experience, >> >> fresh new ideas both compositionally and dexterity wise.....breaks are >> good.....i know i'm late to the party but >> >> how did the gig go?.....sometimes you got to just jump in and go for >> it.....and remember, breaks are not good! >> >> >> >> > > > -- > -- > *jimgoodin.com* - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, > color blue, repetitive minimalism' > > *The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music* - > 'Organically inspired New Music' > > *From Brooklyn To Glindran *, a > new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds fr= om > this CD will benefit *JDRF International * > > *Tips Across the Waters > *, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware. > > --20cf302077dc6426fa04ca415cd1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It went OK. Not terrible not great. I had quite a few setbacks such as h= uge sun glare on my computer so the screen was absolutely useless. Also i t= hink my midi controllers had a few malfunctions because of the heat. Someti= mes the faders wouldnt work and sometimes switching instrument patches seem= ed like it wasnt working instantly like it should have either. Overall It w= as a good experience. For one, it was my longest looping performance so far= (about 12-14 minutes). Students didnt even give an applause after I was do= ne but whatever, I enjoyed it the feeling of being brave and encouraged eno= ugh to follow through. I consider this an opportunity I had to share my mus= ic as someone mentioned before me, rather than to "put on a performanc= e".

On Sep 21, 2012 11:34 AM, "Jim Goodin"= <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Kay'lon all good things and knock em dead as they say (with loops :) ).= =A0 Let us know how it went...l.

On Fri, = Sep 21, 2012 at 1:47 PM, michael klobuchar <nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:

=20



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jimgoodin.com - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive minimalism= '
=A0
The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music=A0- 'Org= anically inspired New Music'
=A0
From Brooklyn To Gl= indran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter = Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF International

Tips Across the Waters, a= new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.

--20cf302077dc6426fa04ca415cd1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 22 08:59:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E0563183475; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 08:59:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_7a4a628a-aca9-4d95-b985-d786f658b49d_" X-Originating-IP: [92.228.252.125] From: Sergio G Sender: To: Subject: RE: Performing at school Friday, random wave of low confidence has struck again Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 08:58:58 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,<8CF663854AAA04C-E48-1964A@webmail-stg-m02.sysops.aol.com>,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Sep 2012 08:58:59.0131 (UTC) FILETIME=[811308B0:01CD98A0] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118408 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 08:59:00 +0000 (UTC) --_7a4a628a-aca9-4d95-b985-d786f658b49d_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's the point of no return my friend. You jumped in the dark even if wit= h doubts=2C and you passed :)From now on=2C you will be stronger=2C faster= =2C harder!:)There are no bad experiences. Ser Date: Fri=2C 21 Sep 2012 19:46:18 -0700 Subject: Re: Performing at school Friday=2C random wave of low confidence h= as struck again From: k3zz21@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com It went OK. Not terrible not great. I had quite a few setbacks such as huge= sun glare on my computer so the screen was absolutely useless. Also i thin= k my midi controllers had a few malfunctions because of the heat. Sometimes= the faders wouldnt work and sometimes switching instrument patches seemed = like it wasnt working instantly like it should have either. Overall It was = a good experience. For one=2C it was my longest looping performance so far = (about 12-14 minutes). Students didnt even give an applause after I was don= e but whatever=2C I enjoyed it the feeling of being brave and encouraged en= ough to follow through. I consider this an opportunity I had to share my mu= sic as someone mentioned before me=2C rather than to "put on a performance"= . On Sep 21=2C 2012 11:34 AM=2C "Jim Goodin" wrote= : Kay'lon all good things and knock em dead as they say (with loops :) ). Le= t us know how it went...l. On Fri=2C Sep 21=2C 2012 at 1:47 PM=2C michael klobuchar wrote: after not playing for awhile=2C i find that picking up an instrument=2C the= first time=2C is a whole different experience=2C fresh new ideas both compositionally and dexterity wise.....breaks are good= .....i know i'm late to the party but how did the gig go?.....sometimes you got to just jump in and go for it....= .and remember=2C breaks are not good! =20 --=20 -- jimgoodin.com - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance=2C color blue=2C repetitive= minimalism' The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music - 'Organically inspired New Music' F= rom Brooklyn To Glindran=2C a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin &= Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF International Tips Across the Waters=2C a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire= Ware. = --_7a4a628a-aca9-4d95-b985-d786f658b49d_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That's the point of no return my friend. You jumped in the dark even if wit= h doubts=2C and you passed :)
From now on=2C you will be stronger=2C fa= ster=2C harder!
:)
There are no bad experiences.
<= div>

Ser
<= hr id=3D"stopSpelling">Date: Fri=2C 21 Sep 2012 19:46:18 -0700
Subject: = Re: Performing at school Friday=2C random wave of low confidence has struck= again
From: k3zz21@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=

It went OK. Not terrible not great. I had quite a few setbacks such= as huge sun glare on my computer so the screen was absolutely useless. Als= o i think my midi controllers had a few malfunctions because of the heat. S= ometimes the faders wouldnt work and sometimes switching instrument patches= seemed like it wasnt working instantly like it should have either. Overall= It was a good experience. For one=2C it was my longest looping performance= so far (about 12-14 minutes). Students didnt even give an applause after I= was done but whatever=2C I enjoyed it the feeling of being brave and encou= raged enough to follow through. I consider this an opportunity I had to sha= re my music as someone mentioned before me=2C rather than to "put on a perf= ormance".
On Sep 21=2C 2012 11:34 AM=2C "Jim Goodin" &l= t=3Bjimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>=3B wrote:
Kay'lon all good things and knock em dead as they say (with loops :) ).&nbs= p=3B Let us know how it went...l.

On F= ri=2C Sep 21=2C 2012 at 1:47 PM=2C michael klobuchar <= =3Bnemoguitt@aol.com>=3B = wrote:
after = not playing for awhile=2C i find that picking up an instrument=2C the first= time=2C is a whole different experience=2C

fresh new ideas both compositionally and dexterity wise.....breaks are= good.....i know i'm late to the party but

how did the gig go?.....sometimes you got to just jump in and go for i= t.....and remember=2C breaks are not good!



=20



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jimgoodin.com - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance=2C color blue=2C repetitive minimalism= '
 =3B
The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music =3B-= 'Organically inspired New Music'
 =3B
From Brookly= n To Glindran=2C a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin &am= p=3B Peter Th=F6rn. =3B Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF International

Tips Across the Waters=2C= a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.

= --_7a4a628a-aca9-4d95-b985-d786f658b49d_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 22 14:14:18 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B84F183473; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 14:14:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=7JvWFfTsjTxuLJyzH6KEswh58Mh0GoS/gryu7HjUWiw=; b=0CeO1S8vUjxBUhipzG9Cp3DsirTn/QVS2bcnbrzZ7Z2ZP4WRybyYAJPr0rOUxjxS6J Kc5VH74PdWWjbAczxGnEeHyXgpSyFTVFvIy5bZKwuN7QYW81g7UfYdfv/g82SQfY/jd8 rp0Lkh1eUS7pUxWqTatWNYjzMyZCscm7QnFxur64LMrCvi2RgKeveSS24yNt7t97RqMU 8muMaeJZ0DRmVZ+GEbks3ir0/FSwnIcdVzBBOHHgraSHnPiHzUc7Y0vYoDKUNLw1/zA8 GmI2vhfkczCmdLM+wqLSDIbB0hiGHH6V9ncaQY6OcN8eaox1B/Gja/QjqNw5Bw5lnHRl to/Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <8CF663854AAA04C-E48-1964A@webmail-stg-m02.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:14:17 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Performing at school Friday, random wave of low confidence has struck again From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9d24d30cc404904ca4af8e8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118409 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 14:14:18 +0000 (UTC) --14dae9d24d30cc404904ca4af8e8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable echoe ... echoe what Sergio said Kay'lon. Disappointing you did not get applause however I have experienced that with instrumental material, sometimes people don't know what to do with it, meaning absent words which I'm assuming you were instrumental, they don't completely get it. However point is you rose to the occasion, put yourself out there and showcased your music and that's the best part. Kudos on all. Just saw your name on the potential Y2K performance list, hope you are going and going to perform. I cannot justify making it out this year sadly but will in the future. Keep following your muse my friend. Jim On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Sergio G wrote: > That's the point of no return my friend. You jumped in the dark even if > with doubts, and you passed :) > From now on, you will be stronger, faster, harder! > :) > There are no bad experiences. > > Ser > ------------------------------ > Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:46:18 -0700 > > Subject: Re: Performing at school Friday, random wave of low confidence > has struck again > From: k3zz21@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > It went OK. Not terrible not great. I had quite a few setbacks such as > huge sun glare on my computer so the screen was absolutely useless. Also = i > think my midi controllers had a few malfunctions because of the heat. > Sometimes the faders wouldnt work and sometimes switching instrument > patches seemed like it wasnt working instantly like it should have either= . > Overall It was a good experience. For one, it was my longest looping > performance so far (about 12-14 minutes). Students didnt even give an > applause after I was done but whatever, I enjoyed it the feeling of being > brave and encouraged enough to follow through. I consider this an > opportunity I had to share my music as someone mentioned before me, rathe= r > than to "put on a performance". > On Sep 21, 2012 11:34 AM, "Jim Goodin" wrote: > > Kay'lon all good things and knock em dead as they say (with loops :) ). > Let us know how it went...l. > > On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:47 PM, michael klobuchar wro= te: > > after not playing for awhile, i find that picking up an instrument, the > first time, is a whole different experience, > > fresh new ideas both compositionally and dexterity wise.....breaks are > good.....i know i'm late to the party but > > how did the gig go?.....sometimes you got to just jump in and go for > it.....and remember, breaks are not good! > > > > > > > -- > -- > *jimgoodin.com* - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, > color blue, repetitive minimalism' > > *The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music* - > 'Organically inspired New Music' > > *From Brooklyn To Glindran *, a > new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds fr= om > this CD will benefit *JDRF International * > > *Tips Across the Waters > *, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware. > > --=20 --=20 *jimgoodin.com* - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive minimalism' *The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music* - 'Organically inspired New Music' *From Brooklyn To Glindran *, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from this CD will benefit *JDRF International * *Tips Across the Waters *, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware. --14dae9d24d30cc404904ca4af8e8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable echoe ... echoe what Sergio said Kay'lon. =A0Disappointing you did not = get applause however I have experienced that with instrumental material, so= metimes people don't know what to do with it, meaning absent words whic= h I'm assuming you were instrumental, they don't completely get it.= =A0However point is you rose to the occasion, put yourself out there and s= howcased your music and that's the best part. =A0Kudos on all. =A0Just = saw your name on the potential Y2K performance list, hope you are going and= going to perform. =A0I cannot justify making it out this year sadly but wi= ll in the future. =A0Keep following your muse my friend.

Jim

On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 a= t 4:58 AM, Sergio G <simpliflying@gmail.com> wrote:
=
That's the point of no return my friend. You jumped in the dark even if= with doubts, and you passed :)
From now on, you will be stronger, fast= er, harder!
:)
There are no bad experiences.

Ser
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 = 19:46:18 -0700

Subject: Re: Performing at school Frida= y, random wave of low confidence has struck again
From: k3zz21@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com


It = went OK. Not terrible not great. I had quite a few setbacks such as huge su= n glare on my computer so the screen was absolutely useless. Also i think m= y midi controllers had a few malfunctions because of the heat. Sometimes th= e faders wouldnt work and sometimes switching instrument patches seemed lik= e it wasnt working instantly like it should have either. Overall It was a g= ood experience. For one, it was my longest looping performance so far (abou= t 12-14 minutes). Students didnt even give an applause after I was done but= whatever, I enjoyed it the feeling of being brave and encouraged enough to= follow through. I consider this an opportunity I had to share my music as = someone mentioned before me, rather than to "put on a performance"= ;.
On Sep 21, 2012 11:34 AM, "Jim Goodin" <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
Kay'lon all good things and knock em dead as they say (with loops :) ).= =A0 Let us know how it went...l.

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:47 P= M, michael klobuchar <nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:
after not playing for awhile, i find that pic= king up an instrument, the first time, is a whole different experience,

fresh new ideas both compositionally and dexterity wise.....breaks are= good.....i know i'm late to the party but

how did the gig go?.....sometimes you got to just jump in and go for i= t.....and remember, breaks are not good!



=20



--
--
jimgoodin.com - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive minimalism= '
=A0
The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music=A0- 'Org= anically inspired New Music'
=A0
From Brooklyn To Gl= indran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter = Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF International

Tips Across the Waters, a= new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.




--
--
jimgoodin.com= - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive minima= lism'
=A0
The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music=A0- 'Org= anically inspired New Music'
=A0
From Brooklyn To Gl= indran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter = Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF International

Tips Across the Waters, a= new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.

--14dae9d24d30cc404904ca4af8e8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 23 23:00:31 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 56074183465; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 23:00:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <505F9487.8000307@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 16:00:23 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: 25 ARTISTS have not RE-CONFIRMED their Y2K12 APPEARANCE: Please do so! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1Ial-B.A.XqF.OS5XQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118410 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 23:00:31 +0000 (UTC) 25 Artists have still NOT re-confirmed their Y2K12 Performances. It's vitally important that you confirm your appearance, ASAP. In about 3 or 4 days I'm going to start giving up people's spots to the growing waiting list of applicants, because I must finish the final scheduling this week for publicities' sake. I've sent out e-mails to all of them but there is always the possibilities that their e-mail addresses have changed or that their spam filters have misdirected my messages. It's vitally important that you confirm your appearance. So, please do this if you see it and haven't confirmed: in capital letters (very important) write this to me: subject: YOUR NAME CONFIRMING APPEARANCE: Y212 LOOPFEST send it to looppool@cruzio.com and DO NOT include any messages with this mailing (I won't be reading them due to lack of time) Please don't assume that if you've sent packets into Chris Roberts at the website that I know about it. Re-confirm. Thanks and we'll see you all at the festival. yours, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 24 01:00:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2731183466; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 01:00:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=PNN5sNDkVLxnqnn95bqh9bvUiCvvj6L6fHAGFxehaVk=; b=iQvrLr/fng0CRYNsnCrRSqEyQKgMzwOdoWAam+iEq5ZYV9w8CnuOtn87ObENTMgw/I /SOZdgHmvJvggEhhbW9Y48iJrK5IhalbU3ves57CkIMI8ud/wHY68QZFPTaw5Sll6+tf HMt/sebU1shZtOaG6BtxQJbe3iLnnMthulBYk15VOxhYdjTScdctdxBu623bgtR9tAoU NtWtbFCuFS1C60Y4Gbkej+9BA8Vw77oIIriMuyvOdw3Y1QjDe1ndMtqJWaqbOep9iPRG 0fYPvalZPPKqGBPYAx/BvPOJMOmFRh7y7jJRpg1EC1KitTxoLV8XovI21aMUGOTLjMjD vUgA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <8CF663854AAA04C-E48-1964A@webmail-stg-m02.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 18:00:05 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Performing at school Friday, random wave of low confidence has struck again From: "kay'lon rushing" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6dbe5f935919c04ca681c5d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118411 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 01:00:07 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6dbe5f935919c04ca681c5d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D60g2EFCXuO8&feature=3Dyoutube_gdata_player Here's the performance. Dont like it much but it was a good experienxe. On Sep 22, 2012 7:14 AM, "Jim Goodin" wrote: > echoe ... echoe what Sergio said Kay'lon. Disappointing you did not get > applause however I have experienced that with instrumental material, > sometimes people don't know what to do with it, meaning absent words whic= h > I'm assuming you were instrumental, they don't completely get it. Howeve= r > point is you rose to the occasion, put yourself out there and showcased > your music and that's the best part. Kudos on all. Just saw your name o= n > the potential Y2K performance list, hope you are going and going to > perform. I cannot justify making it out this year sadly but will in the > future. Keep following your muse my friend. > > Jim > > On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Sergio G wrote: > >> That's the point of no return my friend. You jumped in the dark even if >> with doubts, and you passed :) >> From now on, you will be stronger, faster, harder! >> :) >> There are no bad experiences. >> >> Ser >> ------------------------------ >> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:46:18 -0700 >> >> Subject: Re: Performing at school Friday, random wave of low confidence >> has struck again >> From: k3zz21@gmail.com >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> >> It went OK. Not terrible not great. I had quite a few setbacks such as >> huge sun glare on my computer so the screen was absolutely useless. Also= i >> think my midi controllers had a few malfunctions because of the heat. >> Sometimes the faders wouldnt work and sometimes switching instrument >> patches seemed like it wasnt working instantly like it should have eithe= r. >> Overall It was a good experience. For one, it was my longest looping >> performance so far (about 12-14 minutes). Students didnt even give an >> applause after I was done but whatever, I enjoyed it the feeling of bein= g >> brave and encouraged enough to follow through. I consider this an >> opportunity I had to share my music as someone mentioned before me, rath= er >> than to "put on a performance". >> On Sep 21, 2012 11:34 AM, "Jim Goodin" wrote: >> >> Kay'lon all good things and knock em dead as they say (with loops :) ). >> Let us know how it went...l. >> >> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:47 PM, michael klobuchar wr= ote: >> >> after not playing for awhile, i find that picking up an instrument, the >> first time, is a whole different experience, >> >> fresh new ideas both compositionally and dexterity wise.....breaks are >> good.....i know i'm late to the party but >> >> how did the gig go?.....sometimes you got to just jump in and go for >> it.....and remember, breaks are not good! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> -- >> *jimgoodin.com* - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, >> color blue, repetitive minimalism' >> >> *The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music* - >> 'Organically inspired New Music' >> >> *From Brooklyn To Glindran *, a >> new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds f= rom >> this CD will benefit *JDRF International * >> >> *Tips Across the Waters >> *, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware. >> >> > > > -- > -- > *jimgoodin.com* - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, > color blue, repetitive minimalism' > > *The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music* - > 'Organically inspired New Music' > > *From Brooklyn To Glindran *, a > new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds fr= om > this CD will benefit *JDRF International * > > *Tips Across the Waters > *, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware. > > --0016e6dbe5f935919c04ca681c5d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D60g2EFCXuO8&featur= e=3Dyoutube_gdata_player

Here's the performance. Dont like it much but it was a good experien= xe.

On Sep 22, 2012 7:14 AM, "Jim Goodin" = <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
echoe ... echoe what Sergio said Kay'lon. =A0Disappointing you did not = get applause however I have experienced that with instrumental material, so= metimes people don't know what to do with it, meaning absent words whic= h I'm assuming you were instrumental, they don't completely get it.= =A0However point is you rose to the occasion, put yourself out there and s= howcased your music and that's the best part. =A0Kudos on all. =A0Just = saw your name on the potential Y2K performance list, hope you are going and= going to perform. =A0I cannot justify making it out this year sadly but wi= ll in the future. =A0Keep following your muse my friend.

Jim

On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 a= t 4:58 AM, Sergio G <simpliflying@gmail.com> wrote:
=
That's the point of no return my friend. You jumped in the dark even if= with doubts, and you passed :)
From now on, you will be stronger, fast= er, harder!
:)
There are no bad experiences.

Ser
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 = 19:46:18 -0700

Subject: Re: Performing at school Friday, random wav= e of low confidence has struck again
From: k3zz21@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com


It went OK. Not = terrible not great. I had quite a few setbacks such as huge sun glare on my= computer so the screen was absolutely useless. Also i think my midi contro= llers had a few malfunctions because of the heat. Sometimes the faders woul= dnt work and sometimes switching instrument patches seemed like it wasnt wo= rking instantly like it should have either. Overall It was a good experienc= e. For one, it was my longest looping performance so far (about 12-14 minut= es). Students didnt even give an applause after I was done but whatever, I = enjoyed it the feeling of being brave and encouraged enough to follow throu= gh. I consider this an opportunity I had to share my music as someone menti= oned before me, rather than to "put on a performance".
On Sep 21, 2012 11:34 AM, "Jim Goodin" <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
Kay'lon all good things and knock em dead as they say (with loops :) ).= =A0 Let us know how it went...l.

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:47 P= M, michael klobuchar <nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:
after not playing for awhile, i find that pic= king up an instrument, the first time, is a whole different experience,

fresh new ideas both compositionally and dexterity wise.....breaks are= good.....i know i'm late to the party but

how did the gig go?.....sometimes you got to just jump in and go for i= t.....and remember, breaks are not good!



=20



--
--
jimgoodin.com - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive minimalism= '
=A0
The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music=A0- 'Org= anically inspired New Music'
=A0
From Brooklyn To Gl= indran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter = Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF International

Tips Across the Waters, a= new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.




--
--
jimgoodin.com= - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive minima= lism'
=A0
The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music=A0- 'Org= anically inspired New Music'
=A0
From Brooklyn To Gl= indran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter = Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF International

Tips Across the Waters, a= new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.

--0016e6dbe5f935919c04ca681c5d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 24 01:35:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D12618345C; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 01:35:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=m7tlcfRSAejiheV6i/mcis1MRChO890ZyYaY/MtBBv4=; b=WiKfvMSNEvi8Tn7CVthuY0r73/JM/fe1HMdIVZDYgxAx+8vKJav3V1Yjbx4PqiouFt yFEZqfCFPFJANLslB9i1e4ljlBbGd5OjuvF7ekXLM3JU4TER82bm0thJdgqdBWBRgraI eJgblMm/FUkDIdF7LRz1yE/HvNw5/My8L4okAqFlFn+1m6bjHTF7NPeSdN2+lnAVAdmf bMUbDSaCQQ6Mrdfq+7yrrCvuJscKUoqATsMygbW66tfQ9cHAmNKAnY8QhKW6rLofyofs ZpDS+63/09idKNZlHIbq+7cTHg4sXQFLR5aI76/aM4blNxwAknBOOgkATflPwa/F21sz 6L/A== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <8CF663854AAA04C-E48-1964A@webmail-stg-m02.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 21:35:49 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Performing at school Friday, random wave of low confidence has struck again From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9ccd4b6fce58004ca689b87 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118412 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 01:35:50 +0000 (UTC) --14dae9ccd4b6fce58004ca689b87 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey man think you underestimated yourself. I thought this was great and the way it was shot was kind of spooky and mysterious Kay'lon. Your music has a cool electronica beat almost noise beat in these pieces and then an overlay kind of Brian Eno texture to it. The fact that your audience on the ground didn't applause I think means nothing, it was more of an ambience thing that probably got by some and or maybe more capitvated by the mood than you knew. you really never know how people will react or what their experience was. Thought it was the cool that you you were up in the rafters doing this. Good job dude. I really hope you get to go to Loopfest in Santa Cruz and that Rick Walker will find a slot for you. You can certainly have mine if he has not already filled as I can't justify coming out this year as much as part of me wants to, I need to wait till next year. Keep going, Kay'lon. Jim On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 9:00 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D60g2EFCXuO8&feature=3Dyoutube_gdata_play= er > > Here's the performance. Dont like it much but it was a good experienxe. > On Sep 22, 2012 7:14 AM, "Jim Goodin" wrote: > >> echoe ... echoe what Sergio said Kay'lon. Disappointing you did not get >> applause however I have experienced that with instrumental material, >> sometimes people don't know what to do with it, meaning absent words whi= ch >> I'm assuming you were instrumental, they don't completely get it. Howev= er >> point is you rose to the occasion, put yourself out there and showcased >> your music and that's the best part. Kudos on all. Just saw your name = on >> the potential Y2K performance list, hope you are going and going to >> perform. I cannot justify making it out this year sadly but will in the >> future. Keep following your muse my friend. >> >> Jim >> >> On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Sergio G wrote= : >> >>> That's the point of no return my friend. You jumped in the dark even i= f >>> with doubts, and you passed :) >>> From now on, you will be stronger, faster, harder! >>> :) >>> There are no bad experiences. >>> >>> Ser >>> ------------------------------ >>> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:46:18 -0700 >>> >>> Subject: Re: Performing at school Friday, random wave of low confidence >>> has struck again >>> From: k3zz21@gmail.com >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> >>> >>> It went OK. Not terrible not great. I had quite a few setbacks such as >>> huge sun glare on my computer so the screen was absolutely useless. Als= o i >>> think my midi controllers had a few malfunctions because of the heat. >>> Sometimes the faders wouldnt work and sometimes switching instrument >>> patches seemed like it wasnt working instantly like it should have eith= er. >>> Overall It was a good experience. For one, it was my longest looping >>> performance so far (about 12-14 minutes). Students didnt even give an >>> applause after I was done but whatever, I enjoyed it the feeling of bei= ng >>> brave and encouraged enough to follow through. I consider this an >>> opportunity I had to share my music as someone mentioned before me, rat= her >>> than to "put on a performance". >>> On Sep 21, 2012 11:34 AM, "Jim Goodin" wrote= : >>> >>> Kay'lon all good things and knock em dead as they say (with loops :) ). >>> Let us know how it went...l. >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:47 PM, michael klobuchar w= rote: >>> >>> after not playing for awhile, i find that picking up an instrument, the >>> first time, is a whole different experience, >>> >>> fresh new ideas both compositionally and dexterity wise.....breaks are >>> good.....i know i'm late to the party but >>> >>> how did the gig go?.....sometimes you got to just jump in and go for >>> it.....and remember, breaks are not good! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> *jimgoodin.com* - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, >>> color blue, repetitive minimalism' >>> >>> *The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music* - >>> 'Organically inspired New Music' >>> >>> *From Brooklyn To Glindran *, >>> a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceed= s from >>> this CD will benefit *JDRF International * >>> >>> *Tips Across the Waters >>> *, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> -- >> *jimgoodin.com* - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, >> color blue, repetitive minimalism' >> >> *The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music* - >> 'Organically inspired New Music' >> >> *From Brooklyn To Glindran *, a >> new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds f= rom >> this CD will benefit *JDRF International * >> >> *Tips Across the Waters >> *, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware. >> >> --=20 --=20 *jimgoodin.com* - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive minimalism' *The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music* - 'Organically inspired New Music' *From Brooklyn To Glindran *, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from this CD will benefit *JDRF International * *Tips Across the Waters *, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware. --14dae9ccd4b6fce58004ca689b87 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey man think you underestimated yourself. =A0I thought this was great and = the way it was shot was kind of spooky and mysterious Kay'lon. =A0Your = music has a cool electronica beat almost noise beat in these pieces and the= n an overlay kind of Brian Eno texture to it. =A0The fact that your audienc= e on the ground didn't applause I think means nothing, it was more of a= n ambience thing that probably got by some and or maybe more capitvated by = the mood than you knew. =A0you really never know how people will react or w= hat their experience was. =A0Thought it was the cool that you you were up i= n the rafters doing this. =A0Good job dude. =A0I really hope you get to go = to Loopfest in Santa Cruz and that Rick Walker will find a slot for you. = =A0You can certainly have mine if he has not already filled as I can't = justify coming out this year as much as part of me wants to, I need to wait= till next year.

Keep going, Kay'lon.

Jim
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 9:00 PM, kay'lon ru= shing <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrote:

http:/= /www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D60g2EFCXuO8&feature=3Dyoutube_gdata_player

Here's the performance. Dont like it much but it was a good experien= xe.

On Sep 22, 2012 7:14 AM, "Jim Goodin" = <jimgoodin= music@gmail.com> wrote:
echoe ... echoe what Sergio said Kay'lon. =A0Disappointing you did not = get applause however I have experienced that with instrumental material, so= metimes people don't know what to do with it, meaning absent words whic= h I'm assuming you were instrumental, they don't completely get it.= =A0However point is you rose to the occasion, put yourself out there and s= howcased your music and that's the best part. =A0Kudos on all. =A0Just = saw your name on the potential Y2K performance list, hope you are going and= going to perform. =A0I cannot justify making it out this year sadly but wi= ll in the future. =A0Keep following your muse my friend.

Jim

On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 a= t 4:58 AM, Sergio G <simpliflying@gmail.com> wrote:
=
That's the point of no return my friend. You jumped in the dark even if= with doubts, and you passed :)
From now on, you will be stronger, fast= er, harder!
:)
There are no bad experiences.

Ser
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 = 19:46:18 -0700

Subject: Re: Performing at school Friday, random wav= e of low confidence has struck again
From: k3zz21@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com


It went OK. Not = terrible not great. I had quite a few setbacks such as huge sun glare on my= computer so the screen was absolutely useless. Also i think my midi contro= llers had a few malfunctions because of the heat. Sometimes the faders woul= dnt work and sometimes switching instrument patches seemed like it wasnt wo= rking instantly like it should have either. Overall It was a good experienc= e. For one, it was my longest looping performance so far (about 12-14 minut= es). Students didnt even give an applause after I was done but whatever, I = enjoyed it the feeling of being brave and encouraged enough to follow throu= gh. I consider this an opportunity I had to share my music as someone menti= oned before me, rather than to "put on a performance".
On Sep 21, 2012 11:34 AM, "Jim Goodin" <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
Kay'lon all good things and knock em dead as they say (with loops :) ).= =A0 Let us know how it went...l.

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:47 P= M, michael klobuchar <nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:
after not playing for awhile, i find that pic= king up an instrument, the first time, is a whole different experience,

fresh new ideas both compositionally and dexterity wise.....breaks are= good.....i know i'm late to the party but

how did the gig go?.....sometimes you got to just jump in and go for i= t.....and remember, breaks are not good!



=20



--
--
jimgoodin.com - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive minimalism= '
=A0
The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music=A0- 'Org= anically inspired New Music'
=A0
From Brooklyn To Gl= indran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter = Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF International

Tips Across the Waters, a= new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.




--
--
jimgoodin.com= - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive minima= lism'
=A0
The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music=A0- 'Org= anically inspired New Music'
=A0
From Brooklyn To Gl= indran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter = Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF International

Tips Across the Waters, a= new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.




--
=
--
j= imgoodin.com - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repet= itive minimalism'
=A0
The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music=A0- 'Org= anically inspired New Music'
=A0
From Brooklyn To Gl= indran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter = Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF International

Tips Across the Waters, a= new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.

--14dae9ccd4b6fce58004ca689b87-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 24 03:57:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE1DE183461; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 03:57:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=S8oHdM3ZLb++AP3mXeoI082+n/iBTqF8Ju5CcUBIudc=; b=EJ3JPTodG6EivK216mSr1jUCvb1T1MBhVUVz3F2yt/2O/3k6PluzBktPp/3J825jg2 BSEiIC1/PUarAfmmvtqqC0mGJggbqrg3+XVMuxRxszStgPUEVaEwJUVCXxHIG9+UCtrm QMbQFc8l+JTqzc/0C6J2HrRzpOEkF2h5fJ0l4v1draLSwk4wRKaDnkJ66Wv9C4A47F42 DMhohEytV26aQP7kwrioDnskp3lIEtXLigBjsAxP/ObKRSQb9CycMB9BjYJadIkyGdfi +pFFoIfc7XfjpzW0HuGBf31tQ3DVnhpfpKGr1Xm7JfKK+eAl7xqhNJBHiyWOK9cVEMlE 8Tkw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <8CF663854AAA04C-E48-1964A@webmail-stg-m02.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 20:57:26 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Performing at school Friday, random wave of low confidence has struck again From: "kay'lon rushing" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf302077dc74105904ca6a9663 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118413 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 03:57:27 +0000 (UTC) --20cf302077dc74105904ca6a9663 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've had a slot since about april. I just need to confirm that I'll get transportation to it. Thank you so much for the encouragement also. I like what you said about the music probably just being ambience and honestly, I like that idea and might try and share my music at school more often as background music rather than a performance. On Sep 23, 2012 6:35 PM, "Jim Goodin" wrote: > Hey man think you underestimated yourself. I thought this was great and > the way it was shot was kind of spooky and mysterious Kay'lon. Your musi= c > has a cool electronica beat almost noise beat in these pieces and then an > overlay kind of Brian Eno texture to it. The fact that your audience on > the ground didn't applause I think means nothing, it was more of an > ambience thing that probably got by some and or maybe more capitvated by > the mood than you knew. you really never know how people will react or > what their experience was. Thought it was the cool that you you were up = in > the rafters doing this. Good job dude. I really hope you get to go to > Loopfest in Santa Cruz and that Rick Walker will find a slot for you. Yo= u > can certainly have mine if he has not already filled as I can't justify > coming out this year as much as part of me wants to, I need to wait till > next year. > > Keep going, Kay'lon. > > Jim > > On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 9:00 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote= : > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D60g2EFCXuO8&feature=3Dyoutube_gdata_pla= yer >> >> Here's the performance. Dont like it much but it was a good experienxe. >> On Sep 22, 2012 7:14 AM, "Jim Goodin" wrote: >> >>> echoe ... echoe what Sergio said Kay'lon. Disappointing you did not ge= t >>> applause however I have experienced that with instrumental material, >>> sometimes people don't know what to do with it, meaning absent words wh= ich >>> I'm assuming you were instrumental, they don't completely get it. Howe= ver >>> point is you rose to the occasion, put yourself out there and showcased >>> your music and that's the best part. Kudos on all. Just saw your name= on >>> the potential Y2K performance list, hope you are going and going to >>> perform. I cannot justify making it out this year sadly but will in th= e >>> future. Keep following your muse my friend. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Sergio G wrote= : >>> >>>> That's the point of no return my friend. You jumped in the dark even >>>> if with doubts, and you passed :) >>>> From now on, you will be stronger, faster, harder! >>>> :) >>>> There are no bad experiences. >>>> >>>> Ser >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:46:18 -0700 >>>> >>>> Subject: Re: Performing at school Friday, random wave of low confidenc= e >>>> has struck again >>>> From: k3zz21@gmail.com >>>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>>> >>>> >>>> It went OK. Not terrible not great. I had quite a few setbacks such as >>>> huge sun glare on my computer so the screen was absolutely useless. Al= so i >>>> think my midi controllers had a few malfunctions because of the heat. >>>> Sometimes the faders wouldnt work and sometimes switching instrument >>>> patches seemed like it wasnt working instantly like it should have eit= her. >>>> Overall It was a good experience. For one, it was my longest looping >>>> performance so far (about 12-14 minutes). Students didnt even give an >>>> applause after I was done but whatever, I enjoyed it the feeling of be= ing >>>> brave and encouraged enough to follow through. I consider this an >>>> opportunity I had to share my music as someone mentioned before me, ra= ther >>>> than to "put on a performance". >>>> On Sep 21, 2012 11:34 AM, "Jim Goodin" >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Kay'lon all good things and knock em dead as they say (with loops :) >>>> ). Let us know how it went...l. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:47 PM, michael klobuchar = wrote: >>>> >>>> after not playing for awhile, i find that picking up an instrument, th= e >>>> first time, is a whole different experience, >>>> >>>> fresh new ideas both compositionally and dexterity wise.....breaks >>>> are good.....i know i'm late to the party but >>>> >>>> how did the gig go?.....sometimes you got to just jump in and go for >>>> it.....and remember, breaks are not good! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> *jimgoodin.com* - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, >>>> color blue, repetitive minimalism' >>>> >>>> *The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music* - >>>> 'Organically inspired New Music' >>>> >>>> *From Brooklyn To Glindran *, >>>> a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Procee= ds from >>>> this CD will benefit *JDRF International * >>>> >>>> *Tips Across the Waters >>>> *, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> *jimgoodin.com* - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, >>> color blue, repetitive minimalism' >>> >>> *The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music* - >>> 'Organically inspired New Music' >>> >>> *From Brooklyn To Glindran *, >>> a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceed= s from >>> this CD will benefit *JDRF International * >>> >>> *Tips Across the Waters >>> *, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware. >>> >>> > > > -- > -- > *jimgoodin.com* - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, > color blue, repetitive minimalism' > > *The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music* - > 'Organically inspired New Music' > > *From Brooklyn To Glindran *, a > new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds fr= om > this CD will benefit *JDRF International * > > *Tips Across the Waters > *, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware. > > --20cf302077dc74105904ca6a9663 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I've had a slot since about april. I just need to confirm that I'= ;ll get transportation to it. Thank you so much for the encouragement also.= I like what you said about the music probably just being ambience and hone= stly, I like that idea and might try and share my music at school more ofte= n as background music rather than a performance.

On Sep 23, 2012 6:35 PM, "Jim Goodin" = <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey man think you underestimated yourself. =A0I thought this was great and = the way it was shot was kind of spooky and mysterious Kay'lon. =A0Your = music has a cool electronica beat almost noise beat in these pieces and the= n an overlay kind of Brian Eno texture to it. =A0The fact that your audienc= e on the ground didn't applause I think means nothing, it was more of a= n ambience thing that probably got by some and or maybe more capitvated by = the mood than you knew. =A0you really never know how people will react or w= hat their experience was. =A0Thought it was the cool that you you were up i= n the rafters doing this. =A0Good job dude. =A0I really hope you get to go = to Loopfest in Santa Cruz and that Rick Walker will find a slot for you. = =A0You can certainly have mine if he has not already filled as I can't = justify coming out this year as much as part of me wants to, I need to wait= till next year.

Keep going, Kay'lon.

Jim
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 9:00 PM, kay'lon ru= shing <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrote:

http:/= /www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D60g2EFCXuO8&feature=3Dyoutube_gdata_player

Here's the performance. Dont like it much but it was a good experien= xe.

On Sep 22, 2012 7:14 AM, "Jim Goodin" = <jimgoodin= music@gmail.com> wrote:
echoe ... echoe what Sergio said Kay'lon. =A0Disappointing you did not = get applause however I have experienced that with instrumental material, so= metimes people don't know what to do with it, meaning absent words whic= h I'm assuming you were instrumental, they don't completely get it.= =A0However point is you rose to the occasion, put yourself out there and s= howcased your music and that's the best part. =A0Kudos on all. =A0Just = saw your name on the potential Y2K performance list, hope you are going and= going to perform. =A0I cannot justify making it out this year sadly but wi= ll in the future. =A0Keep following your muse my friend.

Jim

On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 a= t 4:58 AM, Sergio G <simpliflying@gmail.com> wrote:
=
That's the point of no return my friend. You jumped in the dark even if= with doubts, and you passed :)
From now on, you will be stronger, fast= er, harder!
:)
There are no bad experiences.

Ser
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 = 19:46:18 -0700

Subject: Re: Performing at school Friday, random wav= e of low confidence has struck again
From: k3zz21@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com


It went OK. Not = terrible not great. I had quite a few setbacks such as huge sun glare on my= computer so the screen was absolutely useless. Also i think my midi contro= llers had a few malfunctions because of the heat. Sometimes the faders woul= dnt work and sometimes switching instrument patches seemed like it wasnt wo= rking instantly like it should have either. Overall It was a good experienc= e. For one, it was my longest looping performance so far (about 12-14 minut= es). Students didnt even give an applause after I was done but whatever, I = enjoyed it the feeling of being brave and encouraged enough to follow throu= gh. I consider this an opportunity I had to share my music as someone menti= oned before me, rather than to "put on a performance".
On Sep 21, 2012 11:34 AM, "Jim Goodin" <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
Kay'lon all good things and knock em dead as they say (with loops :) ).= =A0 Let us know how it went...l.

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:47 P= M, michael klobuchar <nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:
after not playing for awhile, i find that pic= king up an instrument, the first time, is a whole different experience,

fresh new ideas both compositionally and dexterity wise.....breaks are= good.....i know i'm late to the party but

how did the gig go?.....sometimes you got to just jump in and go for i= t.....and remember, breaks are not good!



=20



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jimgoodin.com - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive minimalism= '
=A0
The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music=A0- 'Org= anically inspired New Music'
=A0
From Brooklyn To Gl= indran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter = Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF International

Tips Across the Waters, a= new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.




--
--
jimgoodin.com= - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive minima= lism'
=A0
The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music=A0- 'Org= anically inspired New Music'
=A0
From Brooklyn To Gl= indran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter = Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF International

Tips Across the Waters, a= new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.




--
=
--
j= imgoodin.com - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repet= itive minimalism'
=A0
The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music=A0- 'Org= anically inspired New Music'
=A0
From Brooklyn To Gl= indran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter = Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF International

Tips Across the Waters, a= new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.

--20cf302077dc74105904ca6a9663-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 24 09:04:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90CCD183473; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 09:04:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Z Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_DFD4EA85-782A-4824-943D-80A7998FCE29" Subject: Re: Performing at school Friday, random wave of low confidence has struck again Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 11:03:14 +0200 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <8CF663854AAA04C-E48-1964A@webmail-stg-m02.sysops.aol.com> Message-Id: <63955F08-2767-4D1B-8B2A-C334CF3E6F76@zzz.ch> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118414 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 09:04:05 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_DFD4EA85-782A-4824-943D-80A7998FCE29 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hey, good experiences always bring up better experiences, and while you = might not like your set much, it's pretty good to listen to. Cheers, ;) z =20 zzz@zzz.ch - http://zzz.ch On 24 sept. 2012, at 03:00, kay'lon rushing wrote: > = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D60g2EFCXuO8&feature=3Dyoutube_gdata_playe= r >=20 > Here's the performance. Dont like it much but it was a good = experienxe. >=20 > On Sep 22, 2012 7:14 AM, "Jim Goodin" = wrote: > echoe ... echoe what Sergio said Kay'lon. Disappointing you did not = get applause however I have experienced that with instrumental material, = sometimes people don't know what to do with it, meaning absent words = which I'm assuming you were instrumental, they don't completely get it. = However point is you rose to the occasion, put yourself out there and = showcased your music and that's the best part. Kudos on all. Just saw = your name on the potential Y2K performance list, hope you are going and = going to perform. I cannot justify making it out this year sadly but = will in the future. Keep following your muse my friend. >=20 > Jim >=20 > On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Sergio G = wrote: > That's the point of no return my friend. You jumped in the dark even = if with doubts, and you passed :) > =46rom now on, you will be stronger, faster, harder! > :) > There are no bad experiences. >=20 > Ser > Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:46:18 -0700 >=20 > Subject: Re: Performing at school Friday, random wave of low = confidence has struck again > From: k3zz21@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 >=20 > It went OK. Not terrible not great. I had quite a few setbacks such as = huge sun glare on my computer so the screen was absolutely useless. Also = i think my midi controllers had a few malfunctions because of the heat. = Sometimes the faders wouldnt work and sometimes switching instrument = patches seemed like it wasnt working instantly like it should have = either. Overall It was a good experience. For one, it was my longest = looping performance so far (about 12-14 minutes). Students didnt even = give an applause after I was done but whatever, I enjoyed it the feeling = of being brave and encouraged enough to follow through. I consider this = an opportunity I had to share my music as someone mentioned before me, = rather than to "put on a performance". > On Sep 21, 2012 11:34 AM, "Jim Goodin" = wrote: > Kay'lon all good things and knock em dead as they say (with loops :) = ). Let us know how it went...l. >=20 > On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:47 PM, michael klobuchar = wrote: > after not playing for awhile, i find that picking up an instrument, = the first time, is a whole different experience, >=20 > fresh new ideas both compositionally and dexterity wise.....breaks are = good.....i know i'm late to the party but >=20 > how did the gig go?.....sometimes you got to just jump in and go for = it.....and remember, breaks are not good! >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > -- > jimgoodin.com - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive = minimalism' > =20 > The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music - 'Organically inspired New = Music' > =20 > =46rom Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim = Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF = International >=20 > Tips Across the Waters, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and = Wire Ware. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > -- > jimgoodin.com - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive = minimalism' > =20 > The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music - 'Organically inspired New = Music' > =20 > =46rom Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim = Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF = International >=20 > Tips Across the Waters, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and = Wire Ware. >=20 --Apple-Mail=_DFD4EA85-782A-4824-943D-80A7998FCE29 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Hey, = good experiences always bring up better experiences, and while you might = not like your set much, it's pretty good to listen = to.
Cheers,
;)
z
 

On 24 sept. 2012, at 03:00, kay'lon rushing = wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D60g2EFCXuO8&feature=3D= youtube_gdata_player

Here's the performance. Dont like it much = but it was a good experienxe.

On Sep 22, 2012 7:14 AM, "Jim Goodin" <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> = wrote:
echoe ... echoe what Sergio said Kay'lon.  Disappointing you did = not get applause however I have experienced that with instrumental = material, sometimes people don't know what to do with it, meaning absent = words which I'm assuming you were instrumental, they don't completely = get it.  However point is you rose to the occasion, put yourself = out there and showcased your music and that's the best part.  Kudos = on all.  Just saw your name on the potential Y2K performance list, = hope you are going and going to perform.  I cannot justify making = it out this year sadly but will in the future.  Keep following your = muse my friend.

Jim

On Sat, Sep 22, = 2012 at 4:58 AM, Sergio G <simpliflying@gmail.com> = wrote:
That's the point of no return my friend. You jumped in the dark even if = with doubts, and you passed :)
=46rom now on, you will be stronger, = faster, harder!
:)
There are no bad = experiences.

Ser
Date: Fri, 21 Sep = 2012 19:46:18 -0700

Subject: Re: Performing at school Friday, = random wave of low confidence has struck again
From: k3zz21@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

It went OK. Not terrible not great. I had quite a few setbacks such as = huge sun glare on my computer so the screen was absolutely useless. Also = i think my midi controllers had a few malfunctions because of the heat. = Sometimes the faders wouldnt work and sometimes switching instrument = patches seemed like it wasnt working instantly like it should have = either. Overall It was a good experience. For one, it was my longest = looping performance so far (about 12-14 minutes). Students didnt even = give an applause after I was done but whatever, I enjoyed it the feeling = of being brave and encouraged enough to follow through. I consider this = an opportunity I had to share my music as someone mentioned before me, = rather than to "put on a performance".
On Sep 21, 2012 11:34 AM, "Jim Goodin" <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Kay'lon all good things and knock em dead as they say (with loops :) = ).  Let us know how it went...l.

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 = at 1:47 PM, michael klobuchar <nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:
after not playing for awhile, i find that picking = up an instrument, the first time, is a whole different experience,

fresh new ideas both compositionally and dexterity wise.....breaks = are good.....i know i'm late to the party but

how did the gig go?.....sometimes you got to just jump in and go = for it.....and remember, breaks are not good!



=20



--
-- =
jimgoodin.com - 'Acoustic guitar = renaissance, color blue, repetitive minimalism'
 
The Recordings of Wood and Wire = Music - 'Organically inspired New = Music'
 
=46rom= Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim = Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.  Proceeds from this CD will benefit = JDRF = International

Tips Across the Waters, a new app for = iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.

=



--
-- =
jimgoodin.com - 'Acoustic guitar = renaissance, color blue, repetitive minimalism'
 
The Recordings of Wood and Wire = Music - 'Organically inspired New = Music'
 
=46rom= Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim = Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.  Proceeds from this CD will benefit = JDRF = International

Tips Across the Waters, a new app for = iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.


= --Apple-Mail=_DFD4EA85-782A-4824-943D-80A7998FCE29-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 24 11:21:29 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6BDF9183461; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 11:21:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=fHWyHTfqUhK5ARNrmChpXQSTFIrgGt/Yli0AP79SajA=; b=BfWeTafa/iHBHRcowGP/RbaBAk7WaLudKx/ZTLb2/zFDqJ1382TPU7jhsqPek2EwDE Q9YYRy/1fSrMP5oJO0O9gwzrPk0u3Bq6WdH/fxU0nxnLT4bmXF+CJpOHyXxt+pV94fTD cS/ucxWJ5HX8dpwUEj+3Uu9FBHFLwBlMmoFWBcTRwrOsCDLdVWGPBgDWMOjFFpMEvkzt yawyWP29eEEGRP/ZnI/PKVnXLtzWln3MsZ9dyyL9a+9F7ykVbDtqIKxpA+79xOgrCN+Y oFU9hdeOK597DLHvosgYmeDQNn3fuhK1mOFSAoI3yryk62sCqGyj2xPAZRsQ1Q6POoV9 N5AQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@gmail.com Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 12:13:17 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: SJcwqzyn-1Wi05E45qNliwe1lJQ Message-ID: Subject: Darkroom gigs this week (starting Tues 25th) From: Os To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118415 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 11:21:29 +0000 (UTC) Hi, Darkroom are playing 3 gigs in London this week and next. Guitar and modular synth loops backed with beats. http://www.facebook.com/darkroomtheband/events Tuesday 25th: Alleycat Bar Saturday 29th: Mother Live, 333 Old St Tuesday 4th: Cornershop Bar (an acoustic night, so that should be interesting!) Would be great to see fellow loopers there. cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 24 13:12:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E1A5183473; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 13:12:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=Fozo7IuGYtipSUKWlRjJ4OOt7V/OjmRfsHzJTph2aIY=; b=iwF+7DPnspboWcnpgjDRNoguMxcFB47H1fLsI/zGmSVWcLUnWQRQn2MM/epBl4TC6/ s61Z+nBZL5xYfnO9bYmkz0QeslShOs6ib3/fw2Bkc8u32eM2ULwhFkqfMi3V7JpI/U7q iX8WUU/dcodH0ybmygFd9kFJsMvMhZEuu4CYYdWbs2g7omw6no7qYWb5s+AAXU26tC/P UFchk8gHBlUmgyw++2Cm/WrPX7T5VhqzSm2yqrY4+ec8q3QtAkbeBrSV7nfIp2t2VnQF Wc2+zst00E4bvBDzT7j7XjnqnZOEZn6l834E8Yn7Ey5l6N93/JCOEqVNcipUGgsxU/Ho OOjw== Subject: Re: Performing at school Friday, random wave of low confidence has struck again References: <8CF663854AAA04C-E48-1964A@webmail-stg-m02.sysops.aol.com> From: Jim Goodin Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-E6ACF61B-AB09-498D-BD54-CB90D3F7829E X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10A403) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <3D02FDF3-FF1D-49C8-80B3-36A6F90450F3@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 09:12:40 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118416 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 13:12:47 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-E6ACF61B-AB09-498D-BD54-CB90D3F7829E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kay'lon you're welcome and so glad you are on deck for Y2k. I have been for= tunate to go several years, was planning to go this year after missing last y= ear. My son is senior in high school this year and we have several college v= isits on deck and it just feels wrong to drop the cash to come out when it c= an go to his year and needs. So planning to now go next year. Btw the statement about 'ambience' was not a put down or saying think of you= r music that way, it's just an observation of playing largely instrumental m= usic for 30+ years. Strangely I'm beginning to sing a bit as I'm also a hug= e [OT ;)] Steve Earle fan. Best with your muse and getting to Y2K. Note to Rick, if at all possible he= lp this young man get trans to the event, maybe someone on the list coming f= rom his area. Jim On Sep 23, 2012, at 11:57 PM, "kay'lon rushing" wrote: > I've had a slot since about april. I just need to confirm that I'll get tr= ansportation to it. Thank you so much for the encouragement also. I like wha= t you said about the music probably just being ambience and honestly, I like= that idea and might try and share my music at school more often as backgrou= nd music rather than a performance. >=20 > On Sep 23, 2012 6:35 PM, "Jim Goodin" wrote: >> Hey man think you underestimated yourself. I thought this was great and t= he way it was shot was kind of spooky and mysterious Kay'lon. Your music ha= s a cool electronica beat almost noise beat in these pieces and then an over= lay kind of Brian Eno texture to it. The fact that your audience on the gro= und didn't applause I think means nothing, it was more of an ambience thing t= hat probably got by some and or maybe more capitvated by the mood than you k= new. you really never know how people will react or what their experience w= as. Thought it was the cool that you you were up in the rafters doing this.= Good job dude. I really hope you get to go to Loopfest in Santa Cruz and t= hat Rick Walker will find a slot for you. You can certainly have mine if he= has not already filled as I can't justify coming out this year as much as p= art of me wants to, I need to wait till next year. >>=20 >> Keep going, Kay'lon. >>=20 >> Jim >>=20 >> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 9:00 PM, kay'lon rushing wrote= : >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D60g2EFCXuO8&feature=3Dyoutube_gdata_pla= yer >>>=20 >>> Here's the performance. Dont like it much but it was a good experienxe. >>>=20 >>> On Sep 22, 2012 7:14 AM, "Jim Goodin" wrote: >>>> echoe ... echoe what Sergio said Kay'lon. Disappointing you did not ge= t applause however I have experienced that with instrumental material, somet= imes people don't know what to do with it, meaning absent words which I'm as= suming you were instrumental, they don't completely get it. However point i= s you rose to the occasion, put yourself out there and showcased your music a= nd that's the best part. Kudos on all. Just saw your name on the potential= Y2K performance list, hope you are going and going to perform. I cannot ju= stify making it out this year sadly but will in the future. Keep following y= our muse my friend. >>>>=20 >>>> Jim >>>>=20 >>>> On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Sergio G wrot= e: >>>>> That's the point of no return my friend. You jumped in the dark even i= f with doubts, and you passed :) >>>>> =46rom now on, you will be stronger, faster, harder! >>>>> :) >>>>> There are no bad experiences. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Ser >>>>> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:46:18 -0700 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Subject: Re: Performing at school Friday, random wave of low confidenc= e has struck again >>>>> From: k3zz21@gmail.com >>>>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> It went OK. Not terrible not great. I had quite a few setbacks such as= huge sun glare on my computer so the screen was absolutely useless. Also i t= hink my midi controllers had a few malfunctions because of the heat. Sometim= es the faders wouldnt work and sometimes switching instrument patches seemed= like it wasnt working instantly like it should have either. Overall It was a= good experience. For one, it was my longest looping performance so far (abo= ut 12-14 minutes). Students didnt even give an applause after I was done but= whatever, I enjoyed it the feeling of being brave and encouraged enough to f= ollow through. I consider this an opportunity I had to share my music as som= eone mentioned before me, rather than to "put on a performance". >>>>> On Sep 21, 2012 11:34 AM, "Jim Goodin" wrot= e: >>>>> Kay'lon all good things and knock em dead as they say (with loops :) )= . Let us know how it went...l. >>>>>=20 >>>>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:47 PM, michael klobuchar = wrote: >>>>> after not playing for awhile, i find that picking up an instrument, th= e first time, is a whole different experience, >>>>>=20 >>>>> fresh new ideas both compositionally and dexterity wise.....breaks are= good.....i know i'm late to the party but >>>>>=20 >>>>> how did the gig go?.....sometimes you got to just jump in and go for i= t.....and remember, breaks are not good! >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> --=20 >>>>> -- >>>>> jimgoodin.com - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive m= inimalism' >>>>> =20 >>>>> The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music - 'Organically inspired New Musi= c' >>>>> =20 >>>>> =46rom Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Go= odin & Peter Th=C3=B6rn. Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF Internatio= nal >>>>>=20 >>>>> Tips Across the Waters, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and W= ire Ware. >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> --=20 >>>> -- >>>> jimgoodin.com - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive mi= nimalism' >>>> =20 >>>> The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music - 'Organically inspired New Music= ' >>>> =20 >>>> =46rom Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goo= din & Peter Th=C3=B6rn. Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF Internation= al >>>>=20 >>>> Tips Across the Waters, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wi= re Ware. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> -- >> jimgoodin.com - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive mini= malism' >> =20 >> The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music - 'Organically inspired New Music' >> =20 >> =46rom Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodi= n & Peter Th=C3=B6rn. Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF International= >>=20 >> Tips Across the Waters, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire= Ware. --Apple-Mail-E6ACF61B-AB09-498D-BD54-CB90D3F7829E Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Kay'lon you're welcome and so glad you= are on deck for Y2k.  I have been fortunate to go several years, was p= lanning to go this year after missing last year.  My son is senior in h= igh school this year and we have several college visits on deck and it just f= eels wrong to drop the cash to come out when it can go to his year and needs= .  So planning to now go next year.

Btw the st= atement about 'ambience' was not a put down or saying think of your music th= at way, it's just an observation of playing largely instrumental music for 3= 0+ years.  Strangely I'm beginning to sing a bit as I'm also a huge [OT= ;)] Steve Earle fan.

Best with your muse and getti= ng to Y2K.  Note to Rick, if at all possible help this young man get tr= ans to the event, maybe someone on the list coming from his area.
=
Jim

On Sep 23, 2012, at 11:57 PM, "kay'lon rush= ing" <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrote:=

I've had a slot since about a= pril. I just need to confirm that I'll get transportation to it. Thank you s= o much for the encouragement also. I like what you said about the music prob= ably just being ambience and honestly, I like that idea and might try and sh= are my music at school more often as background music rather than a performa= nce.

On Sep 23, 2012 6:35 PM, "Jim Goodin" <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:=
Hey man think you underestimated yourself.  I thought this was great an= d the way it was shot was kind of spooky and mysterious Kay'lon.  Your m= usic has a cool electronica beat almost noise beat in these pieces and then a= n overlay kind of Brian Eno texture to it.  The fact that your audience= on the ground didn't applause I think means nothing, it was more of an ambi= ence thing that probably got by some and or maybe more capitvated by the moo= d than you knew.  you really never know how people will react or what t= heir experience was.  Thought it was the cool that you you were up in t= he rafters doing this.  Good job dude.  I really hope you get to g= o to Loopfest in Santa Cruz and that Rick Walker will find a slot for you. &= nbsp;You can certainly have mine if he has not already filled as I can't jus= tify coming out this year as much as part of me wants to, I need to wait til= l next year.

Keep going, Kay'lon.

Jim

On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 9:00 PM, kay'lon rushing <k3zz= 21@gmail.com> wrote:

http://www= .youtube.com/watch?v=3D60g2EFCXuO8&feature=3Dyoutube_gdata_player

Here's the performance. Dont like it much but it was a good experienxe.

On Sep 22, 2012 7:14 AM, "Jim Goodin" <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.= com> wrote:
echoe ... echoe what Sergio said Kay'lon.  Disappointing you did not ge= t applause however I have experienced that with instrumental material, somet= imes people don't know what to do with it, meaning absent words which I'm as= suming you were instrumental, they don't completely get it.  However po= int is you rose to the occasion, put yourself out there and showcased your m= usic and that's the best part.  Kudos on all.  Just saw your name o= n the potential Y2K performance list, hope you are going and going to perfor= m.  I cannot justify making it out this year sadly but will in the futu= re.  Keep following your muse my friend.

Jim

On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at= 4:58 AM, Sergio G <simpliflying@gmail.com> wrote:
That's the point of no return my friend. You jumped in the dark even if with= doubts, and you passed :)
=46rom now on, you will be stronger, faster, h= arder!
:)
There are no bad experiences.

Ser
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 1= 9:46:18 -0700

Subject: Re: Performing at school Friday, random wave o= f low confidence has struck again
From: k3zz21@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com


It went OK. Not te= rrible not great. I had quite a few setbacks such as huge sun glare on my co= mputer so the screen was absolutely useless. Also i think my midi controller= s had a few malfunctions because of the heat. Sometimes the faders wouldnt w= ork and sometimes switching instrument patches seemed like it wasnt working i= nstantly like it should have either. Overall It was a good experience. For o= ne, it was my longest looping performance so far (about 12-14 minutes). Stud= ents didnt even give an applause after I was done but whatever, I enjoyed it= the feeling of being brave and encouraged enough to follow through. I consi= der this an opportunity I had to share my music as someone mentioned before m= e, rather than to "put on a performance".
On Sep 21, 2012 11:34 AM, "Jim Goodin" <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Kay'lon all good things and knock em dead as they say (with loops :) ). = ; Let us know how it went...l.

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:47 PM, m= ichael klobuchar <nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:
after not playing for awhile, i find that pickin= g up an instrument, the first time, is a whole different experience,

fresh new ideas both compositionally and dexterity wise.....breaks are g= ood.....i know i'm late to the party but

how did the gig go?.....sometimes you got to just jump in and go for it= .....and remember, breaks are not good!



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The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music - 'Orga= nically inspired New Music'
 
=46rom Brooklyn To Glin= dran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=C3= =B6rn.  Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF International

Tips Across the Waters, a n= ew app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.

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jimgoodin.com - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive minimalism'
 
The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music - 'Orga= nically inspired New Music'
 
=46rom Brooklyn To Glin= dran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=C3= =B6rn.  Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF International

Tips Across the Waters, a n= ew app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.




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jim= goodin.com - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, color blue, repetitive m= inimalism'
 
The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music - 'Orga= nically inspired New Music'
 
=46rom Brooklyn To Glin= dran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=C3= =B6rn.  Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF International

Tips Across the Waters, a n= ew app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.

= --Apple-Mail-E6ACF61B-AB09-498D-BD54-CB90D3F7829E-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 24 13:34:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7D9C183474; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 13:34:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=7VlaQRy1Cw2JDTLldeQh/qLYdDkrqSunUMgkLBwGwcc=; b=xZRYWDrj2gq0jcdxNsKp0GctVYpfueN7gtxrn354oH9QsRy95X23mXhKceXwxA45xn 9MWY5DbW9qGpyc42x/rrXKpmEVQR+2BxO68XitKqNRxPFvvOxjQEmH+zT96WxHgjRW8s H9iG9GEicJpqk/2AtCEpqNmDA7U0xonu59JW5fzi1wsxOS8m2QbcKt019pI72Yc43hSy azVj0/NcKaw8iYmhc/Wb2261/i/4dFsZ//0+YMX6p2B5UpJ881LxpE4I6MOfEhHfr2QS ygfMCAQwtLG3TpJWF7GSp7tieepciqsjAsEKIzQNPzm5bQ+mO4J+d0iA6ZbZHWVZ7TxL b5xA== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Subject: Re: Performing at school Friday, random wave of low confidence has struck again From: philip In-Reply-To: <3D02FDF3-FF1D-49C8-80B3-36A6F90450F3@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 22:33:34 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <8CF663854AAA04C-E48-1964A@webmail-stg-m02.sysops.aol.com> <3D02FDF3-FF1D-49C8-80B3-36A6F90450F3@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118417 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 13:34:12 +0000 (UTC) Those were nice tracks. I like your beats and minimal electronica style. I agree with Jim in that the lack of applause doesn't mean anything. = People don't often applaud DJs even after a great mix that they were = dancing their butts off too--perhaps it is a poor comparison considering = that you were DJing. If someone had been out front rapping or singing or = working working up a sweat in some fashion, I imagine there would have = been applause--but that's more due to social norm in response to that = specific genre of performance, not the quality of your music. Thanks for sharing your video. It reminded me of when I starI'm looking = forward to watching the directions your music takes you. Philip= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 24 16:30:34 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31A6A183462; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 16:30:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=AP5czJ3T5rEuG7AdiT2JpYrGX0QvoWi2RsTypp4eUSo= c=1 sm=2 a=yLTIHCvsoMcA:10 a=agWTFdhlyG4A:10 a=kZCaSYHnAAAA:8 a=AmuB-pcYAAAA:8 a=x9LQtntrAAAA:8 a=OUXYneDTAAAA:8 a=vaIhY5bAc0xCC3t00E4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=9dKDUTTeGJsA:10 a=4g1Un4FPLDYA:10 a=k9XOtJXmrMMA:10 a=053Au2P4wpAA:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 X-Telus-Outbound-IP: 64.180.206.105 From: richard sales Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4-829837533 Subject: Re: Performing at school Friday, random wave of low confidence has struck again Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 09:30:24 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <8CF663854AAA04C-E48-1964A@webmail-stg-m02.sysops.aol.com> <3D02FDF3-FF1D-49C8-80B3-36A6F90450F3@gmail.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118418 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 16:30:34 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4-829837533 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I totally agree - lack of applause definitely doesn't mean anything. On the other hand, it can be an incentive to improve our playing, our = presentation. For me, one of the great rewards of playing music is this drive to = improve. It's like the perfect Sudoku puzzle. Once you catch that bug of eternal improvement, music transforms from = being a hobby and maybe a way to make money (plus meet the opposite sex, = get applause etc) into a way to learn more about who you are and what = your strengths and weaknesses are.=20 Lack of applause is not a reason to despair or give up. But anything = that inspires us to get better, work and dream harder, is a very good = thing.=20 There is no musician on earth who can't improve. One of the tricks is = to learn how to balance that desire to improve with simultaneously = accepting who and where you are. When onstage, be comfortable with who = and where you are (applause or no applause). In the privacy of home, = the studio, jamming with friends etc, work your butt off to improve.=20 Trust your gift while polishing it. The trick is to enjoy both aspects of music (working to improve your = chops and relaxing with, loving and being grateful for what you have)... = and to use these assets to improve your career. I'll check out your video later today. Pretty busy. Hope all this isn't confusing or offensive. I'm getting old! richard sales www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.goodnaturefarms.com On Sep 24, 2012, at 6:33 AM, philip wrote: > Those were nice tracks. I like your beats and minimal electronica = style. >=20 > I agree with Jim in that the lack of applause doesn't mean anything. = People don't often applaud DJs even after a great mix that they were = dancing their butts off too--perhaps it is a poor comparison considering = that you were DJing. If someone had been out front rapping or singing or = working working up a sweat in some fashion, I imagine there would have = been applause--but that's more due to social norm in response to that = specific genre of performance, not the quality of your music. >=20 > Thanks for sharing your video. It reminded me of when I starI'm = looking forward to watching the directions your music takes you. >=20 > Philip --Apple-Mail-4-829837533 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I = totally agree - lack of applause definitely doesn't mean = anything.
On the other hand, it can be an incentive to improve our = playing, our presentation.
For me, one of the great rewards of = playing music is this drive to improve.  It's like the perfect = Sudoku puzzle.
Once you catch that bug of eternal improvement, = music transforms from being a hobby and maybe a way to make money (plus = meet the opposite sex, get applause etc) into a way to learn more about = who you are and what your strengths and weaknesses = are. 
Lack of applause is not a reason to despair or give = up.  But anything that inspires us to get better, work and dream = harder, is a very good thing. 

There is no = musician on earth who can't improve.  One of the tricks is to learn = how to balance that desire to improve with simultaneously accepting who = and where you are.   When onstage, be comfortable with who and = where you are (applause or no applause).  In the privacy of home, = the studio, jamming with friends etc, work your butt off to = improve. 

Trust your gift while polishing = it.

The trick is to enjoy both aspects of music = (working to improve your chops and relaxing with, loving and being = grateful for what you have)... and to use these assets to improve your = career.

I'll check out your video later today. =  Pretty busy.

Hope all this isn't = confusing or offensive.  I'm getting = old!
On Sep 24, 2012, at 6:33 AM, philip wrote:

Those = were nice tracks. I like your beats and minimal electronica = style.

I agree with Jim in that the lack of applause doesn't mean = anything. People don't often applaud DJs even after a great mix that = they were dancing their butts off too--perhaps it is a poor comparison = considering that you were DJing. If someone had been out front rapping = or singing or working working up a sweat in some fashion, I imagine = there would have been applause--but that's more due to social norm in = response to that specific genre of performance, not the quality of your = music.

Thanks for sharing your video. It reminded me of when I = starI'm looking forward to watching the directions your music takes = you.

Philip

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Were you playing at school for your fellow students? Lack= of applause is one way to show others that the audience is "too cool". Giv= e it time, keep playing. You WILL have the last laugh. There are an infinit= e number of people that are underwhelmed by peers in school. Keep playing. = Get some music out into the world. Fame or not, you will be remembered by t= hat audience no matter what happens in the future. Should you hit the big t= ime, be gracious to those who did not applaud. They will be very respectful= of what you've done. If you do'n hit the big time,, who cares? If you have= the music inside, you'll never feel empty. That is why us old timers keep = playing long after our shot at fame has passed us by. Rig=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: richard sales =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =0ASent: Monday, = September 24, 2012 9:30 AM=0ASubject: Re: Performing at school Friday, rand= om wave of low confidence has struck again=0A=0A=0AI totally agree - lack o= f applause definitely doesn't mean anything. =0AOn the other hand, it can b= e an incentive to improve our playing, our presentation.=0AFor me, one of t= he great rewards of playing music is this drive to improve. =A0It's like th= e perfect Sudoku puzzle.=0AOnce you catch that bug of eternal improvement, = music transforms from being a hobby and maybe a way to make money (plus mee= t the opposite sex, get applause etc) into a way to learn more about who yo= u are and what your strengths and weaknesses are.=A0=0ALack of applause is = not a reason to despair or give up. =A0But anything that inspires us to get= better, work and dream harder, is a very good thing.=A0=0A=0AThere is no m= usician on earth who can't improve. =A0One of the tricks is to learn how to= balance that desire to improve with simultaneously accepting who and where= you are. =A0 When onstage, be comfortable with who and where you are (appl= ause or no applause). =A0In the privacy of home, the studio, jamming with f= riends etc, work your butt off to improve.=A0=0A=0ATrust your gift while po= lishing it.=0A=0AThe trick is to enjoy both aspects of music (working to im= prove your chops and relaxing with, loving and being grateful for what you = have)... and to use these assets to improve your career.=0A=0AI'll check ou= t your video later today. =A0Pretty busy.=0A=0AHope all this isn't confusin= g or offensive. =A0I'm getting old!=0A=0Arichard sales=0Awww.glasswing.com= =0Awww.richardsales.com=0Awww.hayleysales.com=0Awww.goodnaturefarms.com=0A= =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Sep 24, 2012, at 6:33 AM, philip wrote:= =0A=0AThose were nice tracks. I like your beats and minimal electronica sty= le.=0A>=0A>I agree with Jim in that the lack of applause doesn't mean anyth= ing. People don't often applaud DJs even after a great mix that they were d= ancing their butts off too--perhaps it is a poor comparison considering tha= t you were DJing. If someone had been out front rapping or singing or worki= ng working up a sweat in some fashion, I imagine there would have been appl= ause--but that's more due to social norm in response to that specific genre= of performance, not the quality of your music.=0A>=0A>Thanks for sharing y= our video. It reminded me of when I starI'm looking forward to watching the= directions your music takes you.=0A>=0A>Philip=0A> ---1118611504-1319703999-1348511322=:61390 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lack of applause? Were you playing at school for your fellow students? Lack= of applause is one way to show others that the audience is "too cool&= quot;. Give it time, keep playing. You WILL have the last laugh. There are = an infinite number of people that are underwhelmed by peers in school. Keep= playing. Get some music out into the world. Fame or not, you will be remem= bered by that audience no matter what happens in the future. Should you hit= the big time, be gracious to those who did not applaud. They will be very = respectful of what you've done. If you do'n hit the big time,, who = cares? If you have the music inside, you'll never feel empty. That is w= hy us old timers keep playing long after our shot at fame has passed us by.= =0D
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From= : richard sales <richard@glasswing.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =
Sent: Monday, Septemb= er 24, 2012 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: Performing at school Friday, random wave of low confidence has s= truck again

=0A
I totally agree - lack of applause definitely doesn't mean any= thing.
On the other hand, it can be an incentive to improve our playing= , our presentation.
For me, one of the great rewards of playing m= usic is this drive to improve.  It's like the perfect Sudoku puzzl= e.
Once you catch that bug of eternal improvement, music transfor= ms from being a hobby and maybe a way to make money (plus meet the opposite= sex, get applause etc) into a way to learn more about who you are and what= your strengths and weaknesses are. 
Lack of applause is not= a reason to despair or give up.  But anything that inspires us to get= better, work and dream harder, is a very good thing. 

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There is no musician on earth who can't improve.  One of= the tricks is to learn how to balance that desire to improve with simultan= eously accepting who and where you are.   When onstage, be comfortable with who and where you are (a= pplause or no applause).  In the privacy of home, the studio, jamming = with friends etc, work your butt off to improve. 

=
Trust your gift while polishing it.

The trick= is to enjoy both aspects of music (working to improve your chops and relax= ing with, loving and being grateful for what you have)... and to use these = assets to improve your career.

I'll check out = your video later today.  Pretty busy.

Hope al= l this isn't confusing or offensive.  I'm getting old!

=0A
richard sales
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O= n Sep 24, 2012, at 6:33 AM, philip wrote:

Those were nice track= s. I like your beats and minimal electronica style.

I agree with Jim= in that the lack of applause doesn't mean anything. People don't o= ften applaud DJs even after a great mix that they were dancing their butts = off too--perhaps it is a poor comparison considering that you were DJing. I= f someone had been out front rapping or singing or working working up a swe= at in some fashion, I imagine there would have been applause--but that'= s more due to social norm in response to that specific genre of performance= , not the quality of your music.

Thanks for sharing your video. It r= eminded me of when I starI'm looking forward to watching the directions= your music takes you.

Philip

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---1118611504-1319703999-1348511322=:61390-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 24 20:21:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DAD94183464; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 20:21:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0602290610==" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20000101012738.3797.54751.levelstar.mail@everest> Sender: Tyler Reply-to: Tyler From: Tyler Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 20:27:38 -0500 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Subject: Anyone heard of Angela Sheik? Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118420 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 20:21:28 +0000 (UTC) Unable to read this email, please upgrage your mail client --===============0602290610== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello!=20I=20was=20just=20informed=20of=20a=20US=20based=20artist=20named= =20Angela=20Sheik.=20Some=20of=20her=20looping=20is=20done=20 live.=20Have=20you=20heard=20her? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D35tbVfV6Lk4 Tyler=20Z --===============0602290610==-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 24 20:27:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D5E0183476; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 20:27:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_ad6a892d-025f-4a5a-a3e3-ba0117a3dcc0_" X-Originating-IP: [184.145.20.50] From: X X To: Subject: RE: Performing at school Friday, random wave of low confidence has struck again Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 20:27:39 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,<8CF663854AAA04C-E48-1964A@webmail-stg-m02.sysops.aol.com>,,,,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Sep 2012 20:27:39.0625 (UTC) FILETIME=[0AD58D90:01CD9A93] Resent-Message-ID: <0rwGbB.A.y7C.9IMYQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118421 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 20:27:41 +0000 (UTC) --_ad6a892d-025f-4a5a-a3e3-ba0117a3dcc0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable those drums at 10:05 are haunting me!! dope performance man. There are a se= lect few that will applause=2C dance=2C or even lose their shit to that sty= le of music...then I discovered The Low End Theory in Los Angeles. That pla= ce gave me hope that keeping your own style of music and staying true to wh= at YOU believe a performance should be =3D paradise. This vid is not me=2C it is artist MAST. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D6= N36KjghGPs Date: Sun=2C 23 Sep 2012 18:00:05 -0700 Subject: Re: Performing at school Friday=2C random wave of low confidence h= as struck again From: k3zz21@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D60g2EFCXuO8&feature=3Dyoutube_gdata_player Here's the performance. Dont like it much but it was a good experienxe. On Sep 22=2C 2012 7:14 AM=2C "Jim Goodin" wrote: echoe ... echoe what Sergio said Kay'lon. Disappointing you did not get ap= plause however I have experienced that with instrumental material=2C someti= mes people don't know what to do with it=2C meaning absent words which I'm = assuming you were instrumental=2C they don't completely get it. However po= int is you rose to the occasion=2C put yourself out there and showcased you= r music and that's the best part. Kudos on all. Just saw your name on the= potential Y2K performance list=2C hope you are going and going to perform.= I cannot justify making it out this year sadly but will in the future. K= eep following your muse my friend. Jim On Sat=2C Sep 22=2C 2012 at 4:58 AM=2C Sergio G wr= ote: That's the point of no return my friend. You jumped in the dark even if wit= h doubts=2C and you passed :)From now on=2C you will be stronger=2C faster= =2C harder!:)There are no bad experiences. Ser Date: Fri=2C 21 Sep 2012 19:46:18 -0700 Subject: Re: Performing at school Friday=2C random wave of low confidence h= as struck again From: k3zz21@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com It went OK. Not terrible not great. I had quite a few setbacks such as huge= sun glare on my computer so the screen was absolutely useless. Also i thin= k my midi controllers had a few malfunctions because of the heat. Sometimes= the faders wouldnt work and sometimes switching instrument patches seemed = like it wasnt working instantly like it should have either. Overall It was = a good experience. For one=2C it was my longest looping performance so far = (about 12-14 minutes). Students didnt even give an applause after I was don= e but whatever=2C I enjoyed it the feeling of being brave and encouraged en= ough to follow through. I consider this an opportunity I had to share my mu= sic as someone mentioned before me=2C rather than to "put on a performance"= . On Sep 21=2C 2012 11:34 AM=2C "Jim Goodin" wrote= : Kay'lon all good things and knock em dead as they say (with loops :) ). Le= t us know how it went...l. On Fri=2C Sep 21=2C 2012 at 1:47 PM=2C michael klobuchar wrote: after not playing for awhile=2C i find that picking up an instrument=2C the= first time=2C is a whole different experience=2C fresh new ideas both compositionally and dexterity wise.....breaks are good= .....i know i'm late to the party but how did the gig go?.....sometimes you got to just jump in and go for it....= .and remember=2C breaks are not good! =20 --=20 -- jimgoodin.com - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance=2C color blue=2C repetitive= minimalism' The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music - 'Organically inspired New Music' F= rom Brooklyn To Glindran=2C a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin &= Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF International Tips Across the Waters=2C a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire= Ware. =20 --=20 -- jimgoodin.com - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance=2C color blue=2C repetitive= minimalism' The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music - 'Organically inspired New Music' F= rom Brooklyn To Glindran=2C a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin &= Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF International Tips Across the Waters=2C a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire= Ware. = --_ad6a892d-025f-4a5a-a3e3-ba0117a3dcc0_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
those drums at 10:05 are haunting me!! dope performance man. There are a se= lect few that will applause=2C dance=2C or even lose their shit to that sty= le of music...then I discovered The Low End Theory in Los Angeles. That pla= ce gave me hope that keeping your own style of music and staying true to wh= at YOU believe a performance should be =3D paradise.

This vid is not= me=2C it is artist MAST. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D6N36KjghGPs
<= br>
Date:= Sun=2C 23 Sep 2012 18:00:05 -0700
Subject: Re: Performing at school Fri= day=2C random wave of low confidence has struck again
From: k3zz21@gmail= .com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D60g2EFCXuO8&=3Bfeature= =3Dyoutube_gdata_player
Here's the performance. Dont like it much but it was a good experienxe.
On Sep 22=2C 2012 7:14 AM=2C "Jim Goodin" <= =3Bjimgoodinmusic@gmail.com= >=3B wrote:
echoe ... echoe what Sergio said Kay'lon.  =3BDisappointing you did not= get applause however I have experienced that with instrumental material=2C= sometimes people don't know what to do with it=2C meaning absent words whi= ch I'm assuming you were instrumental=2C they don't completely get it. &nbs= p=3BHowever point is you rose to the occasion=2C put yourself out there and= showcased your music and that's the best part.  =3BKudos on all.  = =3BJust saw your name on the potential Y2K performance list=2C hope you are= going and going to perform.  =3BI cannot justify making it out this ye= ar sadly but will in the future.  =3BKeep following your muse my friend= .

Jim

On Sat=2C Sep 22=2C= 2012 at 4:58 AM=2C Sergio G <=3Bsimpliflying@gmail.com>=3B wrote:
That's the point of no return my friend. You jumped in the dark even if wit= h doubts=2C and you passed :)
From now on=2C you will be stronger=2C fa= ster=2C harder!
:)
There are no bad experiences.

Ser
Date: Fri=2C 21 Sep 201= 2 19:46:18 -0700

Subject: Re: Performing at school Friday=2C random= wave of low confidence has struck again
From: k3zz21@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@= loopers-delight.com


It went OK. Not terrible not great= . I had quite a few setbacks such as huge sun glare on my computer so the s= creen was absolutely useless. Also i think my midi controllers had a few ma= lfunctions because of the heat. Sometimes the faders wouldnt work and somet= imes switching instrument patches seemed like it wasnt working instantly li= ke it should have either. Overall It was a good experience. For one=2C it w= as my longest looping performance so far (about 12-14 minutes). Students di= dnt even give an applause after I was done but whatever=2C I enjoyed it the= feeling of being brave and encouraged enough to follow through. I consider= this an opportunity I had to share my music as someone mentioned before me= =2C rather than to "put on a performance".
On Sep 21=2C 2012 11:34 AM=2C "Jim Goodin" <=3Bjimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>=3B wrote:
Kay'lon all good things and knock em dead as they say (with loops :) ).&nbs= p=3B Let us know how it went...l.

On Fri=2C Sep 21=2C 2012 at 1= :47 PM=2C michael klobuchar <=3Bnemoguitt@aol.com>=3B wrote:
after not playing for awhile=2C= i find that picking up an instrument=2C the first time=2C is a whole diffe= rent experience=2C

fresh new ideas both compositionally and dexterity wise.....breaks are= good.....i know i'm late to the party but

how did the gig go?.....sometimes you got to just jump in and go for i= t.....and remember=2C breaks are not good!



=20



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jimgoodin.com - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance=2C color blue=2C repetitive minimalism= '
 =3B
The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music =3B-= 'Organically inspired New Music'
 =3B
From Brookly= n To Glindran=2C a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin &am= p=3B Peter Th=F6rn. =3B Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF International

Tips Across the Waters=2C= a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.




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jimgoodin.com= - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance=2C color blue=2C repetitive minima= lism'
 =3B
The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music =3B-= 'Organically inspired New Music'
 =3B
From Brookly= n To Glindran=2C a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin &am= p=3B Peter Th=F6rn. =3B Proceeds from this CD will benefit JDRF International

Tips Across the Waters=2C= a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware.

= --_ad6a892d-025f-4a5a-a3e3-ba0117a3dcc0_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 24 23:01:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E874E183475; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 23:01:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5060E64D.5060709@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 16:01:33 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Simk=F3-V=E1rnagy_Mih=E1ly____looping_?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?cellist/electric_bassist?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118422 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 23:01:40 +0000 (UTC) I don't know if this guy has been cited here or not but I was really impressed with his musicianship. Simkó-Várnagy Mihály http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3inNyGNMXw&feature=related From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 25 00:36:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D86CC183474; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 00:36:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=PgsktoVgppIkMuGlZAE0Uk2CYmfszUD9LjQTtJO323I=; b=JluS5YZ1PDqDVQqzMCLWOf7b4YHv1hoskWj0oSdAp6gpO/zIPsSzEMxNdaOpAFtyrH moN3P5QgpiIqldyl6BnyVPnmTVFcaql1xmURVnJG9qXL7lf1evHUvXOlj23WHswtDZLT y8U0Or0XtOYd7zUbOH66p66zRr0Nvjga+Q4RACZACRdsgvtpMgANzPHUMXOyr1/hRELe DtcMsTPYcmkqeOO9Q0NONq5p41tOW3XWi7a4S8eAVDk/68JNUu46DFIH5dv8Gd/snjj2 xJwTCsCMspZzckNbMK6JKac4boygFZxq9vi/BvBNdfBuCBIuNY7EHXgQD4/kgby+aNGH 3gAg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5060E64D.5060709@cruzio.com> References: <5060E64D.5060709@cruzio.com> From: Torben Scharling Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 02:36:05 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Simk=F3=2DV=E1rnagy_Mih=E1ly_looping_cellist=2Felectric?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_bassist?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e0cb4efe2a7aa2af8a04ca7be6d5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118423 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 00:36:47 +0000 (UTC) --e0cb4efe2a7aa2af8a04ca7be6d5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good job. Shame about the last part, with the electric bass. It's a bit too out of pitch, and doesn't keep the momentum of the initially really good jam he created. One of things I'm working on, is to have more immediate access to my various instruments, so there's not a big gap between making a loop on one, and then switching to another. Technically seems pretty proficient on the electrical cello, and most of the loops where spot on. Dunno how old this kid is, but I'd expect some nice things to come out of him if he keeps it up :) On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 1:01 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > I don't know if this guy has been cited here or not but > I was really impressed with his musicianship. > > > Simk=F3-V=E1rnagy Mih=E1ly > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=3Da3inNyGNMXw&feature=3Drelated > > > > > --=20 De Bedste Hilsner / Best Regards Torben Scharling - Mobile: +45 61 66 60 09 - e-mail: ts@torbenscharling.com --e0cb4efe2a7aa2af8a04ca7be6d5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good job. Shame about the last part, with the electric bass. It's a bit= too out of pitch, and doesn't keep the momentum of the initially reall= y good jam he created.

One of things I'm working on, is to have = more immediate access to my various instruments, so there's not a big g= ap between making a loop on one, and then switching to another.

Technically seems pretty proficient on the electrical cello, and most o= f the loops where spot on. Dunno how old this kid is, but I'd expect so= me nice things to come out of him if he keeps it up :)

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 1:01 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com&g= t; wrote:
I don't know if this guy has been cited here or not but
I was really impressed with his musicianship.


=A0Simk=F3-V=E1rnagy Mih=E1ly


=A0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Da3inNyGNMX= w&feature=3Drelated







--
De Bedste Hilsner / Bes= t Regards

Torben Scharling - Mobile:=A0+45 61 66 60 09 - = e-mail:=A0ts@torbenscharling.com



--e0cb4efe2a7aa2af8a04ca7be6d5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 25 01:42:11 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44409183462; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 01:42:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_3852334c-a2c0-495f-a05a-733f546593a7_" X-Originating-IP: [92.231.13.57] From: Sergio G Sender: To: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE:_Simk=F3-?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?V=E1rnagy_Mi?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?h=E1ly_loopi?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?ng_cellist?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?/electric_?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?bassist?= Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 01:42:08 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <5060E64D.5060709@cruzio.com>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Sep 2012 01:42:09.0801 (UTC) FILETIME=[FA55E790:01CD9ABE] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118424 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 01:42:11 +0000 (UTC) --_3852334c-a2c0-495f-a05a-733f546593a7_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I prefer personally Chapelier Fou.Still=2C the first half of this performan= ce was very nice.I am not so trained to be able to say that the bass was ou= t of pitch. But I liked more the first half. From: torbenscharling@gmail.com Date: Tue=2C 25 Sep 2012 02:36:05 +0200 Subject: Re: Simk=F3-V=E1rnagy Mih=E1ly looping cellist/electric bassist To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Good job. Shame about the last part=2C with the electric bass. It's a bit t= oo out of pitch=2C and doesn't keep the momentum of the initially really go= od jam he created. One of things I'm working on=2C is to have more immediate access to my vari= ous instruments=2C so there's not a big gap between making a loop on one=2C= and then switching to another. Technically seems pretty proficient on the electrical cello=2C and most of = the loops where spot on. Dunno how old this kid is=2C but I'd expect some n= ice things to come out of him if he keeps it up :) On Tue=2C Sep 25=2C 2012 at 1:01 AM=2C Rick Walker wr= ote: I don't know if this guy has been cited here or not but I was really impressed with his musicianship. Simk=F3-V=E1rnagy Mih=E1ly http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Da3inNyGNMXw&feature=3Drelated --=20 De Bedste Hilsner / Best Regards Torben Scharling - Mobile: +45 61 66 60 09 - e-mail: ts@torbenscharling.com = --_3852334c-a2c0-495f-a05a-733f546593a7_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I prefer personally Chapelier Fou.
Still=2C the first half of this perf= ormance was very nice.
I am not so trained to be able to say that= the bass was out of pitch. But I liked more the first half.

From: torbensch= arling@gmail.com
Date: Tue=2C 25 Sep 2012 02:36:05 +0200
Subject: Re:= Simk=F3-V=E1rnagy Mih=E1ly looping cellist/electric bassist
To: Loopers= -Delight@loopers-delight.com

Good job. Shame about the last part=2C = with the electric bass. It's a bit too out of pitch=2C and doesn't keep the= momentum of the initially really good jam he created.

One of things= I'm working on=2C is to have more immediate access to my various instrumen= ts=2C so there's not a big gap between making a loop on one=2C and then swi= tching to another.

Technically seems pretty proficient on the electrical cello=2C and most= of the loops where spot on. Dunno how old this kid is=2C but I'd expect so= me nice things to come out of him if he keeps it up :)

On Tue=2C Sep 25=2C 2012 at 1:01 AM=2C Rick Walker <=3B= looppool@cruzio.com>=3B= wrote:
I don't know if this guy has been cited here or not but
I was really impressed with his musicianship.


 =3BSimk=F3-V=E1rnagy Mih=E1ly


 =3Bhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Da3i= nNyGNMXw&=3Bfeature=3Drelated







--
De Bedste Hilsner / Bes= t Regards

Torben Scharling - Mobile: =3B+45 61 66 60 = 09 - e-mail: =3Bts@t= orbenscharling.com



= --_3852334c-a2c0-495f-a05a-733f546593a7_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 25 03:12:33 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BCBC2183465; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 03:12:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=05roHWUEf3HGhFnVsfGjbc+t3EBSRaS22FBgdW9IS3c=; b=o3lxDxRWcdAt1oSAPaXtiyX681BOFzaSN6lXaxblrWovBXVql3qxYttFJGTi+FEIvI wPk1xw/E1nbc7pqA4fxish9FKA6iBx9F5ElBcAYaU1iVXVjJimP9/u7zpJeEl7xAwcHJ ruMSK8hng5sCz7ybARFfDj5xiVYt9H9gA0pCkYbVQYx1nd/HnsurtMTm+dOOAcwNHTe7 Hc/adW2z2Sdk4CDDCx3WrpcdKXp5XpXNa7xB0eHiaQcVH6X6Dgt7pVQ9GsX1ZdWCgaAG G1EBSLhrrkYxZ6Fn/t6+6V4kmq6afaGl4938b1XiobiF3WvFzzXij/r/wgQrrOLDS0fm qIGg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <5060E64D.5060709@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 20:12:30 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Simk=F3=2DV=E1rnagy_Mih=E1ly_looping_cellist=2Felectric?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_bassist?= From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e0cb4e700447a3fc7604ca7e135b Resent-Message-ID: <66uw2C.A.3tG.gESYQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118425 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 03:12:32 +0000 (UTC) --e0cb4e700447a3fc7604ca7e135b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I love it! On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Sergio G wrote: > I prefer personally Chapelier Fou. > Still, the first half of this performance was very nice. > I am not so trained to be able to say that the bass was out of pitch. But > I liked more the first half. > > ------------------------------ > From: torbenscharling@gmail.com > Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 02:36:05 +0200 > Subject: Re: Simk=F3-V=E1rnagy Mih=E1ly looping cellist/electric bassist > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > Good job. Shame about the last part, with the electric bass. It's a bit > too out of pitch, and doesn't keep the momentum of the initially really > good jam he created. > > One of things I'm working on, is to have more immediate access to my > various instruments, so there's not a big gap between making a loop on on= e, > and then switching to another. > > Technically seems pretty proficient on the electrical cello, and most of > the loops where spot on. Dunno how old this kid is, but I'd expect some > nice things to come out of him if he keeps it up :) > > On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 1:01 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > > I don't know if this guy has been cited here or not but > I was really impressed with his musicianship. > > > Simk=F3-V=E1rnagy Mih=E1ly > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=3Da3inNyGNMXw&feature=3Drelated > > > > > > > > -- > De Bedste Hilsner / Best Regards > > Torben Scharling - Mobile: +45 61 66 60 09 - e-mail: > ts@torbenscharling.com > > > > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com --e0cb4e700447a3fc7604ca7e135b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I love it!

On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 6:42 P= M, Sergio G <simpliflying@gmail.com> wrote:
I prefer personally Chapelier Fou.
Still, the first half of this perfor= mance was very nice.
I am not so trained to be able to say that t= he bass was out of pitch. But I liked more the first half.

From: torbenscharling@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 02:36:05 += 0200
Subject: Re: Simk=F3-V=E1rnagy Mih=E1ly looping cellist/electric ba= ssist
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com


Goo= d job. Shame about the last part, with the electric bass. It's a bit to= o out of pitch, and doesn't keep the momentum of the initially really g= ood jam he created.

One of things I'm working on, is to have more immediate access to m= y various instruments, so there's not a big gap between making a loop o= n one, and then switching to another.

Technically seems pretty proficient on the electrical cello, and most o= f the loops where spot on. Dunno how old this kid is, but I'd expect so= me nice things to come out of him if he keeps it up :)

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 1:01 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com&g= t; wrote:
I don't know if this guy has been cited here or not but
I was really impressed with his musicianship.


=A0Simk=F3-V=E1rnagy Mih=E1ly


=A0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Da3inNyGNMX= w&feature=3Drelated







--
De Bedste Hilsner / Bes= t Regards

Torben Scharling - Mobile:=A0+45 61 66 6= 0 09 - e-mail:=A0ts@torbenscharling.com


=




--
Art Simonsimart@gmail.com=

--e0cb4e700447a3fc7604ca7e135b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 25 05:09:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34392183475; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 05:09:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=vp3LwZwn42utQQ71dgnF5dIWAra8T7FlbVtV0DN5YZo=; b=ILdcRCaU0/YlEpflq9UBr44vV0wFwUnpEz7YgHmU0JlnsNTxg5SUROw10qXrF3+6UF f7/5chWVWwX/p2orSJnvg9txyHmkip2QCPX9EGDYN9E9kJEi7CUKQnzDcqyj9+pPhKnK B0O4A6Argd5dCHI8R5ZhxyCYAuZNLvFFvmS2rU3PCKXzTxX2acoAJOTSlgAVXKToW8NJ oVmuOamohW+DJWbdlsJVoZ7EWFc5GQzijcJOvqcDRTfuaWjFoUhibTAfzhZzfNvRjCrN 3wJTLQA7YKh6Th/V/lhP2Svf8NUoE0l/sisccj//DD7nbWGGB7A516SYny0BIcasOScI k6uA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <8CF663854AAA04C-E48-1964A@webmail-stg-m02.sysops.aol.com> Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 22:09:39 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: RE: Performing at school Friday, random wave of low confidence has struck again From: "kay'lon rushing" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04462e64913ec304ca7fb686 Resent-Message-ID: <2a-fnC.A.fnH.UyTYQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118426 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 05:09:41 +0000 (UTC) --f46d04462e64913ec304ca7fb686 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I definitely have heard of Low End Theory A LOT. Live looping has helped me develop a sort of a voice and a system in my head that seems to know what to put where and what would sound good with what else in my opinion. On Sep 24, 2012 1:27 PM, "X X" wrote: > those drums at 10:05 are haunting me!! dope performance man. There are a > select few that will applause, dance, or even lose their shit to that sty= le > of music...then I discovered The Low End Theory in Los Angeles. That plac= e > gave me hope that keeping your own style of music and staying true to wha= t > YOU believe a performance should be =3D paradise. > > This vid is not me, it is artist MAST. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D6N36KjghGPs > > ------------------------------ > Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 18:00:05 -0700 > Subject: Re: Performing at school Friday, random wave of low confidence > has struck again > From: k3zz21@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D60g2EFCXuO8&feature=3Dyoutube_gdata_play= er > Here's the performance. Dont like it much but it was a good experienxe. > On Sep 22, 2012 7:14 AM, "Jim Goodin" wrote: > > echoe ... echoe what Sergio said Kay'lon. Disappointing you did not get > applause however I have experienced that with instrumental material, > sometimes people don't know what to do with it, meaning absent words whic= h > I'm assuming you were instrumental, they don't completely get it. Howeve= r > point is you rose to the occasion, put yourself out there and showcased > your music and that's the best part. Kudos on all. Just saw your name o= n > the potential Y2K performance list, hope you are going and going to > perform. I cannot justify making it out this year sadly but will in the > future. Keep following your muse my friend. > > Jim > > On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Sergio G wrote: > > That's the point of no return my friend. You jumped in the dark even if > with doubts, and you passed :) > From now on, you will be stronger, faster, harder! > :) > There are no bad experiences. > > Ser > ------------------------------ > Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:46:18 -0700 > > Subject: Re: Performing at school Friday, random wave of low confidence > has struck again > From: k3zz21@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > It went OK. Not terrible not great. I had quite a few setbacks such as > huge sun glare on my computer so the screen was absolutely useless. Also = i > think my midi controllers had a few malfunctions because of the heat. > Sometimes the faders wouldnt work and sometimes switching instrument > patches seemed like it wasnt working instantly like it should have either= . > Overall It was a good experience. For one, it was my longest looping > performance so far (about 12-14 minutes). Students didnt even give an > applause after I was done but whatever, I enjoyed it the feeling of being > brave and encouraged enough to follow through. I consider this an > opportunity I had to share my music as someone mentioned before me, rathe= r > than to "put on a performance". > On Sep 21, 2012 11:34 AM, "Jim Goodin" wrote: > > Kay'lon all good things and knock em dead as they say (with loops :) ). > Let us know how it went...l. > > On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:47 PM, michael klobuchar wro= te: > > after not playing for awhile, i find that picking up an instrument, the > first time, is a whole different experience, > > fresh new ideas both compositionally and dexterity wise.....breaks are > good.....i know i'm late to the party but > > how did the gig go?.....sometimes you got to just jump in and go for > it.....and remember, breaks are not good! > > > > > > > -- > -- > *jimgoodin.com* - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, > color blue, repetitive minimalism' > > *The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music* - > 'Organically inspired New Music' > > *From Brooklyn To Glindran *, a > new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds fr= om > this CD will benefit *JDRF International * > > *Tips Across the Waters > *, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware. > > > > > -- > -- > *jimgoodin.com* - 'Acoustic guitar renaissance, > color blue, repetitive minimalism' > > *The Recordings of Wood and Wire Music* - > 'Organically inspired New Music' > > *From Brooklyn To Glindran *, a > new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds fr= om > this CD will benefit *JDRF International * > > *Tips Across the Waters > *, a new app for iOS from James Goodin/Wood and Wire Ware. > > --f46d04462e64913ec304ca7fb686 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I definitely have heard of Low End Theory A LOT. Live looping has helped= me develop a sort of a voice and a system in my head that seems to know wh= at to put where and what would sound good with what else in my opinion.

On Sep 24, 2012 1:27 PM, "X X" <the_beat_conductor@hotmail.c= om> wrote:
those drums at 10:05 are haunting me!! dope performance man. There are a se= lect few that will applause, dance, or even lose their shit to that style o= f music...then I discovered The Low End Theory in Los Angeles. That place g= ave me hope that keeping your own style of music and staying true to what Y= OU believe a performance should be =3D paradise.

This vid is not me, it is artist MAST. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v= =3D6N36KjghGPs

Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 18:00:= 05 -0700
Subject: Re: Performing at school Friday, random wave of low confidence has= struck again
From: k3zz21@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D60g= 2EFCXuO8&feature=3Dyoutube_gdata_player
Here's the performance. Dont like it much but it was a good experienxe.=
On Sep 22, 2012 7:14 AM, "Jim Goodin" <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>= ; wrote:
echoe ... echoe what Sergio said Kay'lon. =A0Disappointing you did not = get applause however I have experienced that with instrumental material, so= metimes people don't know what to do with it, meaning absent words whic= h I'm assuming you were instrumental, they don't completely get it.= =A0However point is you rose to the occasion, put yourself out there and s= howcased your music and that's the best part. =A0Kudos on all. =A0Just = saw your name on the potential Y2K performance list, hope you are going and= going to perform. =A0I cannot justify making it out this year sadly but wi= ll in the future. =A0Keep following your muse my friend.

Jim

On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Sergio G <simpliflying@gmail.com> wrote:
That's the point of no return my friend. You jumped in the dark even if= with doubts, and you passed :)
From now on, you will be stronger, fast= er, harder!
:)
There are no bad experiences.

Ser
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 = 19:46:18 -0700

Subject: Re: Performing at school Friday, random wav= e of low confidence has struck again
From: k3zz21@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com


It went OK. Not = terrible not great. I had quite a few setbacks such as huge sun glare on my= computer so the screen was absolutely useless. Also i think my midi contro= llers had a few malfunctions because of the heat. Sometimes the faders woul= dnt work and sometimes switching instrument patches seemed like it wasnt wo= rking instantly like it should have either. Overall It was a good experienc= e. For one, it was my longest looping performance so far (about 12-14 minut= es). Students didnt even give an applause after I was done but whatever, I = enjoyed it the feeling of being brave and encouraged enough to follow throu= gh. I consider this an opportunity I had to share my music as someone menti= oned before me, rather than to "put on a performance".
On Sep 21, 2012 11:34 AM, "Jim Goodin" <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
Kay'lon all good things and knock em dead as they say (with loops :) ).= =A0 Let us know how it went...l.

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:47 P= M, michael klobuchar <nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:
after not playing for awhile, i find that pic= king up an instrument, the first time, is a whole different experience,

fresh new ideas both compositionally and dexterity wise.....breaks are= good.....i know i'm late to the party but

how did the gig go?.....sometimes you got to just jump in and go for i= t.....and remember, breaks are not good!



=20



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--f46d04462e64913ec304ca7fb686-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 25 07:25:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D36BC183464; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 07:25:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 450 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 07:25:06 UTC Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 09:17:34 +0200 From: Matthew Calder Reply-To: mattcalder@fsmail.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <9402810.22231348557454787.JavaMail.www@wwinf3702> Subject: Wanted - Electrix Repeater MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [95.149.127.168] X-Wum-Nature: EMAIL-NATURE X-WUM-FROM: |~| X-WUM-TO: |~| X-WUM-REPLYTO: |~| Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118427 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 07:25:06 +0000 (UTC) Wanted - Electrix Repeater Hi - Im hoping to find an Electrix Repeater for use with a school project - any leads would be much appreciated! Thanks Max From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 25 11:08:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 46F1B183476; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 11:08:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=pGixmyGhhSKwff18b8YIBuMtvm5/RkkH/BFNRMyCHww=; b=Yh+IqEXEgO7Wd7yjspi3d2mtuFTKicco0hi/zbDXaeOLVZS3pXUYNEi5VvmXB1xB+g FhEa6Gc5GALJPE0IecIGFrxuBAdqskmeL9uMb0hextUGsv3h7grmiRjpj69de5QOlSS8 wXTOi9NMjr7KbMqIFuUeFBJfYLtiVVYMqQATDxe2TEfpC4C6QmrF8jYewdanY7GeaxfI re/QT3Or/UIaA5OV6lw1rDRzK/NEHp831+6xXHPheotL/AjMoRk5awGXhEEpB2wohNaz vUiAMkRf22GDoaE5x46BvMsjgmn4TLHs48D+7vHz2FadzRpo+xii1K/sJhDNXmQhwrfu citw== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Subject: Re: Wanted - Electrix Repeater From: Philip In-Reply-To: <9402810.22231348557454787.JavaMail.www@wwinf3702> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 20:08:14 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <176AAEC4-D3A6-4E4B-BF74-17B4265554DA@gmail.com> References: <9402810.22231348557454787.JavaMail.www@wwinf3702> To: loopers delight delight X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118428 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 11:08:20 +0000 (UTC) If you are buying, I have one with the original manual, the latest = software and three memory cards. I'm only using my EDPs these days. I'd be shipping from Japan, so it wouldn't be cheap. Philip On Sep 25, 2012, at 4:17 PM, Matthew Calder wrote: >=20 > Wanted - Electrix Repeater >=20 > Hi - Im hoping to find an Electrix Repeater for use with a school = project - any leads would be much appreciated! > Thanks >=20 > Max >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 25 11:18:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1B09183474; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 11:18:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 13:18:04 +0200 From: Matthew Calder Reply-To: mattcalder@fsmail.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <15149932.48361348571884888.JavaMail.www@wwinf3714> Subject: Re: Wanted - Electrix Repeater MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [95.149.127.168] X-Wum-Nature: EMAIL-NATURE X-WUM-FROM: |~| X-WUM-TO: |~| X-WUM-REPLYTO: |~| Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118429 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 11:18:06 +0000 (UTC) Hi Phillip - thanks for your message - yes, Im looking to purchase a Repeater - would you be able to give me an idea of cost - including shipping to the UK? Thank you! Matt ======================================== Message Received: Sep 25 2012, 12:08 PM From: "Philip" To: "loopers delight delight" Cc: Subject: Re: Wanted - Electrix Repeater If you are buying, I have one with the original manual, the latest software and three memory cards. I'm only using my EDPs these days. I'd be shipping from Japan, so it wouldn't be cheap. Philip On Sep 25, 2012, at 4:17 PM, Matthew Calder wrote: > > Wanted - Electrix Repeater > > Hi - Im hoping to find an Electrix Repeater for use with a school project - any leads would be much appreciated! > Thanks > > Max > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 25 11:39:31 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB94A183476; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 11:39:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 164322.69792.bm@omp1054.mail.bf1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1348573171; bh=aSEE2dIzPqXAGf6PksKE0xjVbDDd1+l6j2S+wLbNXh4=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=r9Cyp6ynllBxudVaUPu4zd017l0VvY4Ll+TbSPPy4Jxk6QfGQM9Gjwwd/nP+s5B7HGhZsRYxEFI1citx0AhMHeMIsfpkZ8EesvFUsxUZ/1bdxE58V0n8ipdaq0olSoGrbIzrW1JmgoE2vseHej6I6RAFTHGjx1MA+x31E1QFSkU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hlcoMeGO41loOFz6MANGOsic5NwHdDvcJzGD5ojkN/3yjOrrsRChACcwnTjPoEq9xrXrMoitO+cxPcubPuM0vgyz0EaE47Dx5is9O98YitwujkqBtuwxd/8q4hkpGdtRqvcYw07TmwscIuv2nPkQFYgWZJwSuK7pv81NhKLgtC0=; X-YMail-OSG: g2YGpsEVM1mn3TnerNAk9iajtkweXCwKeE1B4.gwc.nTeOX 3Cslqq9bGlfejgLHYgXqNzqJAIFeBite2AmbBI0akSMUFBlhYEUwDnN8QnUf 8s87vaueJjJb52Vb2f.sx4fOsCbPpcRnBboPjJyybyiRIzFFIHJY4vxbqKsp dtI0Qaf903gtnFp6INBg.wlTy88nQCaGjiDaw_KJFP8ALc53vSdximw1cES3 aVxne5Shx8qA74lYUwAlJedBSqFlNjlrWlkOpR4FNKmykx9Vqec_CxNrP6Oj o8ypq10o05PTR_J8Xzf1rqt2UWY84f8VtcTUs75q8y2P.maLHjzfUoRGdiyS dl7T03ZRUKruYwYXi1chBGxrLhzHijD_H0Q8gcjBmCXwZtoxOy5OSrvtA_a4 6uMl.AQFDelm78PteB3x_lXaLEU6NErO3DLZvGnmXaxBoTTkuE6h8YETeGOX D7NDHXWCc2LVxulqZUh_oJw8u77Fb2yA7K2Y0D72LbMFQfyyF7SnhnxdkK7A WBWLSflh.7cKFG3YIgUUefwRe1ol2uujByniScKOYOqe6SBlj_CdqoHvzMN2 HrsbpYfoWLX6CK8K7oLYblRAhtjhYn6yxE3kaZVgmVcYKBX.YzCQs1R_P X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.434 Message-ID: <1348573171.52201.YahooMailNeo@web160101.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 04:39:31 -0700 (PDT) From: jan gyn Reply-To: jan gyn To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, jazzjet@mac.com, StompboxMan@aol.com, ouk@sfusd.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="1439723771-1347121264-1348573171=:52201" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Unidentified subject! X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118430 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 11:39:31 +0000 (UTC) --1439723771-1347121264-1348573171=:52201 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii http://www.ptraco.net/saratech/wp-content/plugins/google.html?sua=rc.sxfs&dh=gee.gdf&mbn=paar --1439723771-1347121264-1348573171=:52201 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii --1439723771-1347121264-1348573171=:52201-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 25 16:22:19 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BCF62183475; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 16:22:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-09-25_05:2012-09-25,2012-09-25,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1209250181 References: <9402810.22231348557454787.JavaMail.www@wwinf3702> In-reply-to: <9402810.22231348557454787.JavaMail.www@wwinf3702> Message-id: <82BFB759-5F2C-4EE7-AFB6-2393C00597F8@mac.com> Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) From: Daniel Thomas Subject: Re: Wanted - Electrix Repeater Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 09:22:11 -0700 To: "mattcalder@fsmail.net" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118431 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 16:22:19 +0000 (UTC) I have two. Maybe would part with one Contact me off list if interested Daniel Danielthomas4@me.com Sent from my iPhone On Sep 25, 2012, at 12:17 AM, Matthew Calder wrote: > > Wanted - Electrix Repeater > > Hi - Im hoping to find an Electrix Repeater for use with a school project - any leads would be much appreciated! > Thanks > > Max > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 26 17:50:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44FBC183475; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 17:50:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9pgN1HhkZtZY6Nji0GmNKARdFOttqs2S6c8uoTjxNMc=; b=CrhroR6eQY08TI2oZd0RNSJSzyGdz/sKDvK2bmmHzuSBtsqXp/BpVKfBrUTNV/wj35 6bgBzsxAo/RPENdsKbLc7sSnGu5Xn8K0HCy4cmQ3COOhsLU2D1aGK2x+sKeoTnlZnhbK wSpS3lpRVaXsW2EXp7b4iNi8xgZsc2OUrJwf7p++0NyI+tZmi/oXZ7kDqyzzBpGIM7ld QImrsizwVVuIQgY3+0TL77aPBiwaYYBAyilO4DnbIKSwJvlkPTZMaDfvG16ltltusyd7 6FPIAXJEWjjDDdlznevb0MwZXYOCaeU3K5bP/TWhQFqeqI5QCvO4uIiRsckEZW8la0d3 jkhg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 10:50:44 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Faustus & Mank on radio show From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <3-C1aD.A.E5E.1B0YQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118432 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 17:50:45 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, Two tracks from "CT-Collective: Birds" cd were on my radio show last night. I did a 2 hour program of "Bird" songs. (I also included one of my very first 4-track recordings, from the tender age of 19.) The podcast is up at http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com/ -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 26 22:37:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31D63183477; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 22:37:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_8b3cd74e-1195-4753-aa80-7744eaf0b302_" X-Originating-IP: [81.233.147.253] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: fUNKY 5 gUITAR dUB - yet again an octatrack guitar looping jam... Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 22:37:10 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Sep 2012 22:37:10.0437 (UTC) FILETIME=[776CDD50:01CD9C37] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118433 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 22:37:12 +0000 (UTC) --_8b3cd74e-1195-4753-aa80-7744eaf0b302_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable set most tracks sequencers to 20 steps=2C so it's a 5/4 piece=2C sort of=2C= three loops/pickup track=2C three flex track mmanipulating and playing the= loops and a bass and a drum trak.All recorded live=2C playing guitar=2C lo= oping altering sequences=2C parametars... HAVING fun.. 21 century live loop= ing... :-)http://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/funky-5-guitar-dub = --_8b3cd74e-1195-4753-aa80-7744eaf0b302_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
set most tracks =3Bsequencers =3Bto 20 steps=2C so it's a 5/4 = =3Bpiece=2C sort of=2C three loops/pickup track=2C three flex track mmanipu= lating and playing the loops and a bass and a drum trak.
All recorded l= ive=2C playing guitar=2C looping altering sequences=2C parametars... HAVING= fun.. 21 century live looping... :-)
= --_8b3cd74e-1195-4753-aa80-7744eaf0b302_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 27 14:27:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 03A17183474; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 14:27:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:from:to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer; bh=khjXWXUNpdmNY25SIWhCEhst7erCY9jBj0xorDg7UYw=; b=Cl85uqrht1Lb/+WWash6rbEapaLF98+LC+eH9s50ZQAcTHzybjJcIoZn14KV4qJ56w vw+JeXjhGpiQnmcSdq/MK8W2slGT4jBhiK2TNWm87dh0Lxudqf8S46Nc+4Qjt6Tm7JCD yoI3hRVqyWJy63Z5lj4wsyWDd70UmoeFw2JT2VZIQDsd77+Ur/QQZpAKqYRgR8wOKaHs 9G9NmflsYZGzbVWBjUzN6GGrI01pcuZw6HRtv3OHIUEDx/j2b5wNC2vY5s5YasnVSf6c Fb7EhDQ14dYh5bw3N5KfA3ZZQ7MdOJ8PEZe1cFzUZ+4AWa6ofh6Pecfwja7UdlUHXTv/ tf3w== Message-Id: From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--1065807066 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: minimalist track Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 07:27:43 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118434 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 14:27:46 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--1065807066 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Uploaded a recent track, a simple minimal sort of drone thumb piano with improv fx processing. http://soundcloud.com/rpcollier/boop this is the thumb piano used: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41969054@N00/sets/72157621975884568/ For all your repetition and boredom needs. regards BobC --Apple-Mail-2--1065807066 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Uploaded a recent track, a = simple minimal sort of drone thumb piano with improv fx = processing.

http://soundcloud.com/rpcoll= ier/boop

this is the thumb piano = used:



= --Apple-Mail-2--1065807066-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 27 15:00:03 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8392183466; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:00:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=nlrKf9u5uG3fs/vD0VBbL3/xzyN25p4t1WHsSeqasGo= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=UncmS/Am0Fgh8c8TZh5eWA==:17 a=myP459r3AAAA:8 a=JAralIE_AAAA:8 a=0cxcgifGXDs7wIskqdQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=kGW9BxE6HLIA:10 a=UncmS/Am0Fgh8c8TZh5eWA==:117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Re: minimalist track From: Ted Killian In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 07:59:59 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <628D612F-7FC4-454D-9A38-ECE6A63B7768@charter.net> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118435 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:00:03 +0000 (UTC) Nice! On Sep 27, 2012, at 7:27 AM, RP Collier wrote: > Uploaded a recent track, a simple minimal sort of drone thumb piano = with improv fx processing. >=20 > http://soundcloud.com/rpcollier/boop >=20 > this is the thumb piano used: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/41969054@N00/sets/72157621975884568/ >=20 > For all your repetition and boredom needs. >=20 > regards >=20 > BobC From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Sep 27 16:10:32 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4EF9B183475; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 16:10:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <50647A64.8050909@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 12:10:12 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen to Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8PxAP.A.NBB.4pHZQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118436 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 16:10:32 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long Special Focus on Manikin Records. The Featured CD at Midnight will be disk two from "Second Decade 1992-2002." I will also play music by artists playing at the Soundscapes Concert Series this Sunday. The Special Focus page is at: http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#sep Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 28 03:51:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DFD35183466; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 03:51:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:from:content-type:x-mailer:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=gRaRgll/bKMz4N1NQj3kavrvLMOG8W08lZVg0FZ7vmc=; b=gqeK7sBE/sUYOXVAgCJ9UWkIAiQh5mBZjBMTWNNtSjXZJwoM8oLeRWS7sIJ+c9C9if HAcu2Nudyvaj86PxuO3g7m9CbSgtFCUxrj7fEuTs2JcvADeHGaEJn5S1WPgYXNsV7XDM 8gxBi7wUxhsRiHYUZe3WXqIjiJgrI6oExR+KP4nPLbXNnHxcDU2S6OxiK7ybnFfHlV2p 6AMQ7Hofr+KBuJScNAhTioZArhCcgHAySxGbU5j5Xedp9BGxlHI045tvRItvp98KVRjE nSXNfNJQLMksd2qa5gKsdyg8IhLkulcscobt5/ezADSQbPqX5uyzC2d7NetBQBFFJYzx XpIg== Subject: Chris Randall's r2 looper From: Charlie Milkey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B206) Message-Id: <0CBCB1AE-71C3-4E8A-965F-E5900BB70FC0@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 22:50:43 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118437 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 03:51:21 +0000 (UTC) This guy is always doing cool things...I don't know if he is going to releas= e this as a product or if it's just a personal thing, it's still pretty cool= . http://www.analogindustries.com/blog/entry.php?blogid=3D1348639641215= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 28 05:08:02 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07DBA183462; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 05:08:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: To: Subject: Congrats Zoe on Elementary Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 00:07:56 -0500 Message-ID: <006c01cd9d37$391211a0$ab3634e0$@michaelplishka.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac2dNpjH6iSHb0/sT+GZRa4gDc2oMg== Content-Language: en-us x-vipre-scanned: 0D4FE2C50033D00D4FE412 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: <4lTQLB.A.ta.xCTZQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118438 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 05:08:01 +0000 (UTC) I was just watching "Elementary" and the end of the first few minutes faded to commercial with Zoe's tune, "We Insist" which kicks off the Loopers Delight vol. 3. Congrats Zoe! Peace, Mike www.michaelplishka.com www.scribbledmusings.com www.zenstorming.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 28 05:51:54 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F88D183465; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 05:51:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wXlBMdEFU/h+q8oVTWvKaYDJYqfQfO32Mod9alI5fLQ=; b=iNUkEvFl+0GsRghdZC1YTLF2/RVRmRq6pELdBWJGTBiFCKudtHFCVqAvqyChdTi9JI A5fItGxihFTKHZobucBS/jtiYe4ujlWCTPUGnSBYqO1xJacIwWikuxSDOnwCvR3ukuu1 24Ga+m30Aw7mltaI/ex6wJsv7bha5FaB3xD3f8beFulc2UcErPqTOZKSyrnq9BXZ7oxL J4OkLRvCB5+tAQu6Aex9W00FZYC9sdlLP+WK/Vgalz7RRqce4ZPlN2KYGF6CgJpa6Zfw b0tniVFWr0btxvnazsniNZstnXlCT74ubS1F+BpuBvDaDAe2XYQ8GiTbuTWORDUrzkl/ Gvmw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 22:51:52 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Follow up on performing with my brother From: "kay'lon rushing" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d77e6a13b0b304cabca745 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118439 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 05:51:54 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d77e6a13b0b304cabca745 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 A few weeks, maybe even a month back I posted here asking for advice on looping while my brother danced to it. Well we just got done performing tonight and it went great! Rather than upbeat, fast paced music that is typically used to dance, I played the slowest song I've ever made. I wanted to convey a sense of slow motion movement. The sound system was great. I consider this one of my most satisfying performances yet. I was having a good time up there moving and bobbing at my keyboard more than I usually do. I wish I could have seen what kind of dance moves my brother was doing on the stage but I had to keep my eye on the keyboard for most of the time. --0016e6d77e6a13b0b304cabca745 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

A few weeks, maybe even a month back I posted here asking for advice on = looping while my brother danced to it. Well we just got done performing ton= ight and it went great! Rather than upbeat, fast paced music that is typica= lly used to dance, I played the slowest song I've ever made. I wanted t= o convey a sense of slow motion movement. The sound system was great. I con= sider this one of my most satisfying=A0 performances yet. I was having a go= od time up there moving and bobbing at my keyboard more than I usually do.= =A0 I wish I could have seen what kind of dance moves my brother was doing = on the stage but I had to keep my eye on the keyboard for most of the time.=

--0016e6d77e6a13b0b304cabca745-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 28 08:25:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A90B7183460; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 08:25:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_a367c63c-6c80-4130-bd4f-7aff8d10ed86_" X-Originating-IP: [184.145.20.50] From: X X To: Subject: RE: minimalist track Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 08:25:48 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <628D612F-7FC4-454D-9A38-ECE6A63B7768@charter.net> References: ,<628D612F-7FC4-454D-9A38-ECE6A63B7768@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Sep 2012 08:25:48.0387 (UTC) FILETIME=[DCFA1B30:01CD9D52] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118440 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 08:25:49 +0000 (UTC) --_a367c63c-6c80-4130-bd4f-7aff8d10ed86_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable absolutely fucking dope! > Subject: Re: minimalist track > From: tedkillian@charter.net > Date: Thu=2C 27 Sep 2012 07:59:59 -0700 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Nice! >=20 > On Sep 27=2C 2012=2C at 7:27 AM=2C RP Collier wrote: >=20 > > Uploaded a recent track=2C a simple minimal sort of drone thumb piano w= ith improv fx processing. > >=20 > > http://soundcloud.com/rpcollier/boop > >=20 > > this is the thumb piano used: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/41969054@N00/sets/72157621975884568/ > >=20 > > For all your repetition and boredom needs. > >=20 > > regards > >=20 > > BobC >=20 = --_a367c63c-6c80-4130-bd4f-7aff8d10ed86_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
absolutely fucking dope!

= >=3B Subject: Re: minimalist track
>=3B From: tedkillian@charter.net=
>=3B Date: Thu=2C 27 Sep 2012 07:59:59 -0700
>=3B To: Loopers-De= light@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
>=3B Nice!
>=3B
>=3B O= n Sep 27=2C 2012=2C at 7:27 AM=2C RP Collier wrote:
>=3B
>=3B &g= t=3B Uploaded a recent track=2C a simple minimal sort of drone thumb piano = with improv fx processing.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B http://soundc= loud.com/rpcollier/boop
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B this is the thum= b piano used:
>=3B >=3B http://www.flickr.com/photos/41969054@N00/se= ts/72157621975884568/
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B For all your repet= ition and boredom needs.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B regards
>= =3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B BobC
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= --_a367c63c-6c80-4130-bd4f-7aff8d10ed86_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 28 10:04:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 82C67183473; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 10:04:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=VZHWAvPH7DaT08vW8azc/Qd8DIsPjsB9aXoifZV9A0w=; b=wQUVSGv+OqQQBWOXjR1gHzPCk8FKzvqFV19z3cV0Vg1cdzvvFheKROXrjj66duLiVt h85TyXEchOwqYB0Hq9VY+cvCF2Pbx6f/pMNkjF69zFGkLlIJR2KbWYrH3uIlTG6Ww0wX Uo7LHje886LsRmKK0iElUizKg+RwckSItBxLeOE8p9tWHtPkI+KAtEu9zU/Oesy6dR3n CrKEnoE6+TQcY/BWMPB02zzLgSO+Ctny8gEwat+Kzxcj4Ghg4IOHQeqobx1uXek6vmCy McdytzECMR2nJ0P6RXGqODEn7X5Ipqr6suysc2SfM1Fam4bEvXcsGIY1UPCjknhd3gbU GMYg== From: Philip Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_6CC25ED0-1AF7-4E28-A530-FE308F4E3D0D" Subject: Re: minimalist track Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:04:20 +0900 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: ,<628D612F-7FC4-454D-9A38-ECE6A63B7768@charter.net> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118441 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 10:04:27 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_6CC25ED0-1AF7-4E28-A530-FE308F4E3D0D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Love it!! On Sep 28, 2012, at 5:25 PM, X X wrote: > absolutely fucking dope! >=20 > > Subject: Re: minimalist track > > From: tedkillian@charter.net > > Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 07:59:59 -0700 > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >=20 > > Nice! > >=20 > > On Sep 27, 2012, at 7:27 AM, RP Collier wrote: > >=20 > > > Uploaded a recent track, a simple minimal sort of drone thumb = piano with improv fx processing. > > >=20 > > > http://soundcloud.com/rpcollier/boop > > >=20 > > > this is the thumb piano used: > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/41969054@N00/sets/72157621975884568/ > > >=20 > > > For all your repetition and boredom needs. > > >=20 > > > regards > > >=20 > > > BobC > > --Apple-Mail=_6CC25ED0-1AF7-4E28-A530-FE308F4E3D0D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Love it!!


On Sep = 28, 2012, at 5:25 PM, X X wrote:

absolutely fucking dope!

> Subject: Re: minimalist = track
> From: tedkillian@charter.net
> = Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 07:59:59 -0700
> To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
> 
> Nice!
> 
> On Sep 27, 2012, = at 7:27 AM, RP Collier wrote:
> 
> > Uploaded a = recent track, a simple minimal sort of drone thumb piano with improv fx = processing.
> > 
> > http://soundcloud.com/rpcoll= ier/boop
> > 
> > this is the = thumb piano used:
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/41969054@N00/sets/72157621975884568/
= > > 
> = > For all your repetition and boredom needs.
> > 
> > = regards
> > 
> > = BobC
>

<= /html>= --Apple-Mail=_6CC25ED0-1AF7-4E28-A530-FE308F4E3D0D-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 28 10:09:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 420F6183466; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 10:09:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=EhpaYDDdboUAv9aF9PJp46xq0RrZQAMyjLz6JayWVys=; b=Ht3CCXRWwFZNoHtxl3BYAmF/anS1gl1a8+pPYmAIVu2kQrUitsnbh6CJ1fnPI8AtsL zlSAwS5ctMWoQFBj0oOqz4AL0qfqPA2q9yxT7QYcL5N6SQCCbby8l5FUivUP+Ck13/9w sESEYudYzi+ii1YmQBMqsxLIf6NTBvqk6ZUDE8t89RcTs8qAbJ1ipkRMTx1dCjqNZf4s 9N1tV6kjxzxd8tj9dZ48OTnHMGWX/6fDVF3NpVvr5DjZkTEfSVG8M5D/con0JduA67WK AXZ8znJ6hjV3EXuUTguYqbb2QjpeIJMxYNWtYk+nm6Y2zIruyPMdhv5vc7YQYlOYAL22 fI1g== From: Philip Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_85E07812-D838-49F5-900A-E5E6840F0AB6" Subject: Re: fUNKY 5 gUITAR dUB - yet again an octatrack guitar looping jam... Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:09:01 +0900 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <1CCB567B-9F28-49F1-B369-9C22BDB1F149@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118442 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 10:09:07 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_85E07812-D838-49F5-900A-E5E6840F0AB6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On Sep 27, 2012, at 7:37 AM, Anders Bergdahl wrote: > set most tracks sequencers to 20 steps, so it's a 5/4 piece, sort of, = three loops/pickup track, three flex track mmanipulating and playing the = loops and a bass and a drum trak. > All recorded live, playing guitar, looping altering sequences, = parametars... HAVING fun.. 21 century live looping... :-) > http://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/funky-5-guitar-dub --Apple-Mail=_85E07812-D838-49F5-900A-E5E6840F0AB6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
On Sep 27, 2012, at 7:37 AM, Anders = Bergdahl wrote:

set most tracks sequencers to 20 steps, so = it's a 5/4 piece, sort of, three loops/pickup track, three flex = track mmanipulating and playing the loops and a bass and a drum = trak.
All recorded live, playing guitar, looping altering sequences, = parametars... HAVING fun.. 21 century live looping... :-)

= --Apple-Mail=_85E07812-D838-49F5-900A-E5E6840F0AB6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 28 10:11:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E6606183466; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 10:11:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=Fp9hyaHgYJCZ4E3SRxhpU+P2rgNMRUv86Md3aGWm6PQ=; b=uLbuSCbGM0Z4dmK2meelrwLG+NFnTtIUrtyR8MnHp7wVjaY6Hj5jaUlcLqh4PInVv/ xvI+2UPbc2XmGmEEWQyWf8QupSvh9ABM4qCQNasMa2y/Ims+4fgmO6Bp/cND5LQPLaB7 htHDjph2PUpKL5yXdR5huzPB8TD1ie0iLENBbqPqHPxB4j/QILytvDVTTMQnxSrsjsf/ aM19KR8keOv3Y05Gy91fX1W/I4uwkynDfzn4XCF2Px9vH6Bfbmy5q3V5wPkFGjGlupxA ny4o9GLWFhbhJkMYkuY/oQYdp04q0+coonJ+2OU3eON80RuwFuPbisoLrdLZJcrqmCja fs+g== From: Philip Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_8E1C2D25-6DD6-4EF7-AD51-61D240468EC6" Subject: Re: fUNKY 5 gUITAR dUB - yet again an octatrack guitar looping jam... Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:11:03 +0900 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <30FC3F53-6B9A-46F2-A874-01E48C298EFC@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118443 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 10:11:09 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_8E1C2D25-6DD6-4EF7-AD51-61D240468EC6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 oops. I didn't mean to send out an empty message. Anders I really liked = that track. I'm liking what you are doing with the OT.=20 I got rid of a Machinedrum because I didn't connect with the interface. = I guess you aren't having any problem with the OT. Keep the great tracks = coming! Philip On Sep 27, 2012, at 7:37 AM, Anders Bergdahl wrote: > set most tracks sequencers to 20 steps, so it's a 5/4 piece, sort of, = three loops/pickup track, three flex track mmanipulating and playing the = loops and a bass and a drum trak. > All recorded live, playing guitar, looping altering sequences, = parametars... HAVING fun.. 21 century live looping... :-) > http://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/funky-5-guitar-dub --Apple-Mail=_8E1C2D25-6DD6-4EF7-AD51-61D240468EC6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 oops. I didn't mean to send out an empty message. = Anders I really liked that track. I'm liking what you are doing with the = OT. 

I got rid of a Machinedrum because I didn't = connect with the interface. I guess you aren't having any problem with = the OT. Keep the great tracks = coming!

Philip


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On Sep 27, 2012, at 7:37 AM, Anders Bergdahl wrote:

set most tracks sequencers to 20 steps, so = it's a 5/4 piece, sort of, three loops/pickup track, three flex = track mmanipulating and playing the loops and a bass and a drum = trak.
All recorded live, playing guitar, looping altering sequences, = parametars... HAVING fun.. 21 century live looping... :-)

= --Apple-Mail=_8E1C2D25-6DD6-4EF7-AD51-61D240468EC6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 28 10:24:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD5C518345D; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 10:24:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <50657AD0.6070208@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 03:24:16 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: HELP with backing up insecure data for Y2K12 Loop Festival Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4Bi6i.A.tLD.NrXZQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118444 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 10:24:13 +0000 (UTC) I have a 5 year old MacBook Pro that is really starting to fall apart on me. I've faithfully used to back it up but it's looking like it's time to jump ship and get a new laptop. My problem is that all of the Y2K12 Loopfestival Data is all in my Mozilla Thunderbird email client installed on OS X and I"m having fits trying to move that data over to my WIN 7 quad core desktop computer. I have the MBP stuff backed up on my TIME MACHINE external harddrive but my PC running WIN 7 won't recognize the data (USB 2.0 connection). Neither will the MBP let me migrate the data to my WIN 7 backup portable Hard Drives (I understand that the Fat 32 system will not recognize the NTFC or NTSC file systems. (spelling?). I can transfer files from the WIN machine to the OS X, but I can't going the other direction which is the problem. Can anyone recommend to me how I can get my 14 gigs of backup e-mail data, email profiles and, most importantly, my email addresses from the MBP to the WIN 7 machine. I downloaded the proper import/export tool as an add on to both the MBP and WIN 7 versions of Mozilla Thunderbird, but just can't figure out how to get the data from one computer to the next. Thanks for you help.................I'm very nervous about getting this data transferred before my MBP finally bites the dust. yours, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 28 11:09:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 75B24183460; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:09:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=FQzmdbfGF/5BO9zOqh9FT2SJoF22U/Uxf3ibEuSr9KE=; b=Tx5unFpyGE9NDf0DD3a5HrGvbbxKUQt79tvBO9xgOsn4b9rBLfyaBibGgngOhLZdrf P+l+OwT8FMbTnUOrJfQSSl1m+nFKfZTOVsQxEXep8OIE+8KlIkcieP+L9kAA52MqZF2+ /eddul0q+2wQ2xSoa/os1atf8GnbsjfD1E2+QRHAwXoi8DQuMRqFeGRQd8mt8MqUzSBY I2AzxWnajzEbtMEiaiG0vyDOvYlgn5uCooayVJr6zqdXCNWiBH4vGP13doZTA8ZGthvX u5iEFhKgLbrapFHh63xr0hBMbp7fttdoz/SItFOb16VrH0c23/tAEgDY5w6q6JiBRi5P UANA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <50657AD0.6070208@cruzio.com> References: <50657AD0.6070208@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 13:09:49 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: HELP with backing up insecure data for Y2K12 Loop Festival From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118445 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:09:50 +0000 (UTC) Don't just transfer data. Find out what the mutual interchange format is and export as a file of that format. Move the file to the next computer and import it into that system's email client. I did this a lot a decade ago, when running Office for email under Windows. But I don't remember the formats (maybe they was called ".pst"?). Maybe such a simple thing as an Excel document (.xls for Windows, best handled by Numbers on a Mac) will well contain the data for the transfer? I remember you used Gmail in the past. Did you stop doing that? Doubling up by piping downloaded emails through Gmail is a sort of "cloud backup". Maybe the correspondance has copies in Gmail? Then you can download what you want on the local Windows disc from there. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > I have a 5 year old MacBook Pro that is really starting to fall apart on me. > > I've faithfully used to back it up but it's looking like it's time to jump > ship and get > a new laptop. > > My problem is that all of the Y2K12 Loopfestival Data is all in my Mozilla > Thunderbird email client > installed on OS X and I"m having fits trying to move that data over to my > WIN 7 quad core desktop > computer. > > I have the MBP stuff backed up on my TIME MACHINE external harddrive but my > PC running WIN 7 won't recognize the data (USB 2.0 connection). > > Neither will the MBP let me migrate the data to my WIN 7 backup portable > Hard Drives (I understand > that the Fat 32 system will not recognize the NTFC or NTSC file systems. > (spelling?). > I can transfer files from the WIN machine to the OS X, but I can't going the > other direction which > is the problem. > > Can anyone recommend to me how I can get my 14 gigs of backup e-mail data, > email profiles and, most importantly, my email addresses from the MBP to > the WIN 7 machine. > > I downloaded the proper import/export tool as an add on to both the MBP and > WIN 7 versions > of Mozilla Thunderbird, but just can't figure out how to get the data from > one computer to the next. > > Thanks for you help.................I'm very nervous about getting this data > transferred before my > MBP finally bites the dust. > > yours, Rick Walker > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 28 12:06:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FC71183476; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:06:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <506592A4.3020207@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 08:05:56 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #808 for September 27, 2012. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118446 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:06:16 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/120927.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #808 September 27, 2012. WDIY Playlist: http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels?playlist_date=09-27-2012 RECAP: On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Manikin Records. The Featured CD at Midnight was disk two from "Second Decade 2002-2012." Manikin Records: http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#sep I also played music by artists who will appear at area concerts such as the Soundscapes Concert Series. Events: http://soundscapes.us/gt/events.html PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Ian Boddy & Bernhard Smash & Grab Moire (DiN) Wostheinrich Erik Wolo & Bernhard Solar Wind Arcadia Borealis (DiN) Wostheinrich Erik Wolo & Bernhard White Sea Arcadia Borealis (DiN) Wostheinrich Ian Boddy & Erik Vista Frontiers (DiN) Wollo Ian Boddy & Erik Trek Frontiers (DiN) Wollo Paul Ellis She Who Watches I Am Here (Lotuspike) VA [Bas Broekhuis] Nazareth, PA Second Decade disk 2 (Manikin) VA [ ['ramp] ] Track for Michael Second Decade disk 2 (Manikin) Hoenig (excerpt) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [Keller and Forgotten Plaes Second Decade disk 2 (Manikin) Wiencamp] VA [Lutz Moab-Jam Second Decade disk 2 (Manikin) Graf-Ulbrich] VA [Broekhuis and Philadelphia Second Decade disk 2 (Manikin) Schonwalder] VA [Rainbow Serpent Elements 18 Second Decade disk 2 (Manikin) Isgaard and Kagermnn] VA [Keller and Metropolis Part 2 Second Decade disk 2 (Manikin) Schonwalder] VA [Spyra] A Rainy Day Second Decade disk 2 (Manikin) VA [Mario Winterland Second Decade disk 2 (Manikin) Schonwalder] 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on Modulator ESP. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "The Unknowing." Modulator ESP: http://soundscapes.us/gt/playlists/2012/focus.html#oct WDIY Announcement: http://wdiy.org/post/next-galactic-travels-2012-10-04 Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/programs/galactic-travels on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 28 12:47:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78CDF183473; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:47:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:47:23 UTC References: <50657AD0.6070208@cruzio.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <853919D5-679F-40DA-AF67-6602615AEFCD@grubmah.com> Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10A403) From: Mark Hamburg Subject: Re: HELP with backing up insecure data for Y2K12 Loop Festival Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 05:40:38 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118447 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:47:24 +0000 (UTC) You either need to create a network that both machines can see each other on= and share files =E2=80=94 a task that is sufficiently fraught that I would b= e uncomfortable trying to advise how to do it other than in person where I c= ould curse and swear at the equipment =E2=80=94 or you need a portable drive= in a format both can deal with which probably means Fat32. Staples has suff= iciently large USB flash drives for twenty to thirty dollars. If you wanted t= o go cheaper or had a smaller flash drive, you could try zip compressing the= files on the Mac using the archive command. Mark On Sep 28, 2012, at 4:09 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Don't just transfer data. Find out what the mutual interchange format > is and export as a file of that format. Move the file to the next > computer and import it into that system's email client. >=20 > I did this a lot a decade ago, when running Office for email under > Windows. But I don't remember the formats (maybe they was called > ".pst"?). Maybe such a simple thing as an Excel document (.xls for > Windows, best handled by Numbers on a Mac) will well contain the data > for the transfer? >=20 > I remember you used Gmail in the past. Did you stop doing that? > Doubling up by piping downloaded emails through Gmail is a sort of > "cloud backup". Maybe the correspondance has copies in Gmail? Then you > can download what you want on the local Windows disc from there. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Rick Walker wrote:= >> I have a 5 year old MacBook Pro that is really starting to fall apart on m= e. >>=20 >> I've faithfully used to back it up but it's looking like it's time to jum= p >> ship and get >> a new laptop. >>=20 >> My problem is that all of the Y2K12 Loopfestival Data is all in my Mozill= a >> Thunderbird email client >> installed on OS X and I"m having fits trying to move that data over to my= >> WIN 7 quad core desktop >> computer. >>=20 >> I have the MBP stuff backed up on my TIME MACHINE external harddrive but= my >> PC running WIN 7 won't recognize the data (USB 2.0 connection). >>=20 >> Neither will the MBP let me migrate the data to my WIN 7 backup portable= >> Hard Drives (I understand >> that the Fat 32 system will not recognize the NTFC or NTSC file systems. >> (spelling?). >> I can transfer files from the WIN machine to the OS X, but I can't going t= he >> other direction which >> is the problem. >>=20 >> Can anyone recommend to me how I can get my 14 gigs of backup e-mail data= , >> email profiles and, most importantly, my email addresses from the MBP to= >> the WIN 7 machine. >>=20 >> I downloaded the proper import/export tool as an add on to both the MBP a= nd >> WIN 7 versions >> of Mozilla Thunderbird, but just can't figure out how to get the data fro= m >> one computer to the next. >>=20 >> Thanks for you help.................I'm very nervous about getting this d= ata >> transferred before my >> MBP finally bites the dust. >>=20 >> yours, Rick Walker >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 28 13:32:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 408D8183466; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 13:32:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <006c01cd9d37$391211a0$ab3634e0$@michaelplishka.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: <006c01cd9d37$391211a0$ab3634e0$@michaelplishka.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <510A69B6-7725-47F2-A274-BBC0954E9495@grubmah.com> Cc: "" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10A403) From: Mark Hamburg Subject: Re: Congrats Zoe on Elementary Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 06:32:41 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118448 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 13:32:48 +0000 (UTC) Cool! On Sep 27, 2012, at 10:07 PM, wrote: > I was just watching "Elementary" and the end of the first few minutes faded > to commercial with Zoe's tune, "We Insist" which kicks off the Loopers > Delight vol. 3. > > Congrats Zoe! > > > Peace, > > Mike > > > > www.michaelplishka.com > www.scribbledmusings.com > www.zenstorming.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 28 13:39:32 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9CD3D18345E; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 13:39:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JuupsprcY6QDUeNfPxoWRWnast+r/ifWioWKfzxbzNk=; b=b1s2lIp8X1bD/lf1Zyf6h3dm6bz/AOFosOreuyVTil60mZtVupfbSqfv/znT27DGIk HN/0V3600vhlVe0XbvHCifysO5lQ1CWmb5qEmLpeJibshUZrgrw/8tTLZQows2VLlAs3 hs26ZiVLOSj/5s5TwkLngUysc9QjrvRw8tagtGgrv9OCYwFXJgFD35DW0jhguVjuRws1 ARl1oe1cjryo/NQdZ0e4ZsWvMSNjA6NBFKMV0gSESEszQ7R+VE7/EWBIznAz9lZZM8Hv 32MYEIxN1BvDuaxqhipFyqtvjDXUWTVpzlXABnOJXRRyGgpAMiXXz8mNWtyscIl8DfBn eyGA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <853919D5-679F-40DA-AF67-6602615AEFCD@grubmah.com> References: <50657AD0.6070208@cruzio.com> <853919D5-679F-40DA-AF67-6602615AEFCD@grubmah.com> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 09:39:31 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: HELP with backing up insecure data for Y2K12 Loop Festival From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118449 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 13:39:32 +0000 (UTC) Hey Rick, Here are no cost options for you: 1) A wifi network is probably the best way to go. Do you have a wifi router? If not you can create an adhoc network from your win7 machine (assuming it has wifi): http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Set-up-a-computer-to-computer-a= d-hoc-network This describes PC to Mac file transfer, but it works the other way as well if you allow that when you make the pc folder shared (just drag the files on your mac to the shared folder): http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-move-files-by-networking-a-pc-= to-a-mac.html 2) You could also send everything to the cloud and download what you need to your pc (or keep it in the cloud?). This describes how to import thunderbird emails into gmail: http://email.about.com/od/gmailtips/qt/How_to_Import_Mail_from_Mozilla_Thun= derbird_in_Gmail.htm Sylvain On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > You either need to create a network that both machines can see each other= on and share files =97 a task that is sufficiently fraught that I would be= uncomfortable trying to advise how to do it other than in person where I c= ould curse and swear at the equipment =97 or you need a portable drive in a= format both can deal with which probably means Fat32. Staples has sufficie= ntly large USB flash drives for twenty to thirty dollars. If you wanted to = go cheaper or had a smaller flash drive, you could try zip compressing the = files on the Mac using the archive command. > > Mark > > On Sep 28, 2012, at 4:09 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> Don't just transfer data. Find out what the mutual interchange format >> is and export as a file of that format. Move the file to the next >> computer and import it into that system's email client. >> >> I did this a lot a decade ago, when running Office for email under >> Windows. But I don't remember the formats (maybe they was called >> ".pst"?). Maybe such a simple thing as an Excel document (.xls for >> Windows, best handled by Numbers on a Mac) will well contain the data >> for the transfer? >> >> I remember you used Gmail in the past. Did you stop doing that? >> Doubling up by piping downloaded emails through Gmail is a sort of >> "cloud backup". Maybe the correspondance has copies in Gmail? Then you >> can download what you want on the local Windows disc from there. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.perboysen.com >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Rick Walker wrot= e: >>> I have a 5 year old MacBook Pro that is really starting to fall apart o= n me. >>> >>> I've faithfully used to back it up but it's looking like it's time to j= ump >>> ship and get >>> a new laptop. >>> >>> My problem is that all of the Y2K12 Loopfestival Data is all in my Mozi= lla >>> Thunderbird email client >>> installed on OS X and I"m having fits trying to move that data over to = my >>> WIN 7 quad core desktop >>> computer. >>> >>> I have the MBP stuff backed up on my TIME MACHINE external harddrive b= ut my >>> PC running WIN 7 won't recognize the data (USB 2.0 connection). >>> >>> Neither will the MBP let me migrate the data to my WIN 7 backup portab= le >>> Hard Drives (I understand >>> that the Fat 32 system will not recognize the NTFC or NTSC file systems= . >>> (spelling?). >>> I can transfer files from the WIN machine to the OS X, but I can't goin= g the >>> other direction which >>> is the problem. >>> >>> Can anyone recommend to me how I can get my 14 gigs of backup e-mail da= ta, >>> email profiles and, most importantly, my email addresses from the MBP = to >>> the WIN 7 machine. >>> >>> I downloaded the proper import/export tool as an add on to both the MBP= and >>> WIN 7 versions >>> of Mozilla Thunderbird, but just can't figure out how to get the data f= rom >>> one computer to the next. >>> >>> Thanks for you help.................I'm very nervous about getting this= data >>> transferred before my >>> MBP finally bites the dust. >>> >>> yours, Rick Walker >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 28 13:53:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FA5318345D; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 13:53:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_8f79823b-906b-4ef0-8f66-e22de7a2bd42_" X-Originating-IP: [92.231.13.11] From: Sergio G Sender: To: Subject: I need help to solve noise problems and other doubts... Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 13:53:50 +0000 Importance: High MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Sep 2012 13:53:50.0952 (UTC) FILETIME=[B0B32E80:01CD9D80] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118450 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 13:53:52 +0000 (UTC) --_8f79823b-906b-4ef0-8f66-e22de7a2bd42_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello! as you probably know=2C I am new to music. So do not be surprised for the b= asic questions. So=2C at first=2C I am trying to understand how to eliminate/reduce interfe= rences coming from the electric domestic installation and provoking that th= e instruments (synth=2C looper=2C effects=2C mixer=2C monitors) make noise = (bzzz=2C hum=2C ffff=2C frrrr). For example I read that there are sockets which just protect against peaks= =2C sockets which also have a filter which should eliminate or reduce noise= s (like the Monster Power HT800).Then I see stabilizers (for computer=2C li= ke the APC=2C or for audio=2C like Proel) which it is not clear to me if th= ey just serve as a better protection than the above mentioned sockets=2C or= if they also reduce some noises.And then I see stabilizers with filter (li= ke the Furman) which supposedly should solve all the problems (but leaving = you without money). All this I have learnt it this morning and I am getting confused.Could you = explain to me what will be the cheapest but still effective solution to red= uce these noises coming from the domestic installation? I have low budget a= nd I do not pretend the results of a professional studio but still I would = like to do what I can. For example=2C the Monster Power HT800 seems a reaso= nable solution. Then I would also like to understand better which audio cable should I choo= se.I just know that a balanced one is better for the noise. But for example= I do not know if it is better ALWAYS or only for length bigger than 3 or 5= meters.For example=2C if I want to connect the synth to the mixer with a c= able shorter than 3 meters=2C shoulc I use 2 unbalanced (mono) cable or two= balanced ones if I want to be SURE that I will have no noise?And I also wo= nder if there are cases where i MUST use an unbalanced cable. I also cannot understand the difference between "audio cable" and "instrume= nt cable". I thought that all the cables where the same=2C am I wrong? Beca= use I go to Thomann site to buy cables and I see these two categories=2C pl= us Mic cables and Patch cables. Can I know the difference?For example=2C th= e xlr cable to connect a mic to the mixer=2C is the same than the one to co= nnect the mixer to the monitor?The patch cable is just a very short instrum= ent cable? Then I have this doubt since always: for what is a compressor/limiter usefu= l? To avoid saturated and distorted sound? I thought the gain was enough fo= r that.Because I read that some people use a compressor to get those wonder= ful techno music basses. Cheers Sergio = --_8f79823b-906b-4ef0-8f66-e22de7a2bd42_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello!

as you probably know=2C I am new to music. So do = not be surprised for the basic questions.

So=2C at= first=2C I am trying to understand how to eliminate/reduce interferences c= oming from the electric domestic installation and provoking that the instru= ments (synth=2C looper=2C effects=2C mixer=2C monitors) make noise (bzzz=2C= hum=2C ffff=2C frrrr).

For example I read that th= ere are sockets which just protect against peaks=2C sockets which also have= a filter which should eliminate or reduce noises (like the Monster Power H= T800).
Then I see stabilizers =3B(for computer=2C like the APC=2C or for audio=2C like Proel) = =3Bwhich it is not clear to me if they just serve a= s a better protection than the above =3Bmentioned =3Bsockets=2C or if they also reduce some noises.
<= font size=3D"2">And then I see stabilizers with filter (like the Furman) wh= ich supposedly should solve all the problems (but leaving you without money= ).

All this I have learnt it this morning and I am getting= confused.
Could you explain to me what w= ill be the cheapest but still effective solution to reduce these noises com= ing from the domestic installation? I have low budget and I do not pretend = the results of a professional studio but still I would like to do what I ca= n. For example=2C the Monster Power HT800 seems a reasonable solution.

Then I would also like to unde= rstand better which audio cable should I choose.
I just know that a balanced one is better for the noise. But for ex= ample I do not know if it is better ALWAYS or only for =3Blength = =3Bbigger than 3 or 5 meters.
For ex= ample=2C if I want to connect the synth to the mixer with a cable shorter t= han 3 meters=2C shoulc I use 2 unbalanced (mono) cable or two balanced ones= if I want to be SURE that I will have no noise?
And I also wonder if there are cases where= i MUST use an unbalanced cable.

I also cannot understand the difference between "audio cable" and "i= nstrument cable". I thought that all the cables where the same=2C am I wron= g? Because I go to Thomann site to buy cables and I see these two categorie= s=2C plus Mic cables and Patch cables. Can I know the difference?
For example=2C the xlr cable to connect a mic to t= he mixer=2C is the same than the one to connect the mixer to the monitor?
The patch cable is just a very short instr= ument cable?

Then I have this doubt since always: for what is a compressor/li= miter useful? To avoid saturated and distorted sound? I thought the gain wa= s enough for that.
Because I read that so= me people use a compressor to get those wonderful techno music basses.


Cheers
<= br>
Sergio
= = --_8f79823b-906b-4ef0-8f66-e22de7a2bd42_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 28 17:37:59 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7112118345D; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 17:37:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=rndR9n07/ZH9+il7LV17uLVH2ED1IkXQgMkOeoVm/1Q=; b=jrSU8IQeCuJE+b8TuUKjHsdXgmTyNGpVZlv5qiJM0UMZe4YBJLt7ZQ2vG3DghxFpxW OEskV9m1PsCB5RAe594DrCfenfrM/xWg4/nabX4MYl0JkPkKII/YOGLTpr+zzkeeRiWH TRRQSQRAqBuOekGDbvR2f1Y6U6C5DZx5DIscaQoX0jxHtVR7gZOeMkxkERfwZBcCUQ+B fHDELfLmn52jzKjqxY85m9sG8Auqg3r4WgPN9n5X121Q8RrQoGqIH7BqC27e1A4nl6C7 n0im0nNsBlPZNV8G5Njd5cjc5Ln+9a4qvPJHYuIZ+BNTKuyCnQfwAvC1lvmvFV58xlwZ EDdg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: Torben Scharling Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:37:17 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FW: For Sale: Boomerang III and other things To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec55408263f838404cac6848c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118451 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 17:37:59 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec55408263f838404cac6848c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Just wanted to mention for other potential buyer, that I had a great communication and a pleasant transaction with the seller Sergio G, so you can be sure you'll receive things nicely packaged and well taken care of. Thanks Sergio :) Best Regards, Torben Scharling On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Sergio G wrote: > *Update:* > * > * > *Side Car sold (thanks and have fun!)* > > So, corrected list: > > - Boomerang III: > I still resist a bit to let it go because it was my first looper and you > can't forget your first looper, but I really do not need it. > Never ever went out of my room, treated as a queen, new as a new one can > be, used actually few times. > > - Mackie DFX 6 Mixer: > it is much sturdier than my Mackie ProFX8, and I have the impression that > even quieter. But the ProFX8 has got usb and I prefer to keep that one, in > case my audio interface fails one day. > > - Korg MicroSampler: > it is not a looper because it can't sample and play back immediately like > a looper, you must record the loop and press play. But it is a nice sampler > with lot of cool features, effects, time stretching, pitch shift, etc. I > would like to keep it because I still had no time to experiment with it > enough, but honestly, with the Octatrack, I am covered. And I prefer to > have cash for things which I really miss. > > - Lexicon ALEX digital effect processor: > few to say. Well, one thing, I do not have the power adapter, I bought it > without, and I am using the one of another gear. > > - TC Electronic VoiceTone Create: > collection of effects for the voice. I like it a lot but I have already so > many effects... > > - Faderfox LV2: > I have found out that for the Octatrack I need a controller which can > assign a different midi channel to each fader/knob. The Faderfox can't (of > course, it was thought for Ableton, and it is perfect for it). So, I prefer > to get a controller which I can use with both Ableton and Octatrack. > > - Digitech Vocalist II (with footswitch) or TC Helicon VoiceTone H1: > I can't decide which one to keep, so, the first one which is requested, > goes. The quality of harmonies is the same. The Digitech has got midi > in/out/through and line in/out, so can work with guitar or keyboard. The H1 > can only work with guitar and makes only two voices (but it is smaller and > lighter). > > - Korg iS50B Interactive Music Workstation: > my first music teacher. The first music I made, it was with it, no > computer, no software, all composed and edited within this keyboard. Some > of the sounds are outdated, but many of them I find them very beautiful. > But, again, with a midi keyboard and Ableton's synth, I just do not need > it... > > > That's it. > Prices are all speakable, so, just contact me privately and let's talk > about it. > > I live in North Germany, as for what concerns shipping. > > > Ser > --bcaec55408263f838404cac6848c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just wanted to mention for other potential buyer, that I had a great commun= ication and a pleasant transaction with the seller Sergio G, so you can be = sure you'll receive things nicely packaged and well taken care of. Than= ks Sergio :)

Best Regards,

Torben Scharling

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Sergio G <simpliflying@gmail.com> wrote:
Update:

Side Car sold (thanks an= d have fun!)

So, corrected list:

- Boomerang III:=A0
I still= resist a bit to let it go because it was my first looper and you can't= forget your first looper, but I really do not need it.
Never ever went out of my room, treated as a queen, new as a new one c= an be, used actually few times.

- Mackie DFX 6 Mix= er:
it is much=A0sturdier=A0than my Mackie ProFX8, and I have the= impression that even=A0quieter. But the ProFX8 has got usb and I prefer to= keep that one, in case my audio interface fails one day.

- Korg MicroSampler:
it is not a looper becau= se it can't sample and play back immediately like a looper, you must re= cord the loop and press play. But it is a nice sampler with lot of cool fea= tures, effects, time stretching, pitch shift, etc. I would like to keep it = because I still had no time to experiment with it enough, but honestly, wit= h the Octatrack, I am covered. And I prefer to have cash for things which I= really miss.

- Lexicon ALEX digital effect processor:=A0
f= ew to say. Well, one thing, I do not have the power adapter, I bought it wi= thout, and I am using the one of another gear.

- TC Electronic VoiceTone Create:=A0<= /div>
collection of effects for the voice. I like it a lot but I have a= lready so many effects...

- Faderfox LV2:=A0
=
I have found out that for the Octatrack I need a controller which can assig= n a different midi channel to each fader/knob. The Faderfox can't (of c= ourse, it was thought for Ableton, and it is perfect for it). So, I prefer = to get a controller which I can use with both Ableton and Octatrack.

- Digitech Vocalist II (with footswitch) or TC Helicon = VoiceTone H1:=A0
I can't decide which one to keep, so, the fi= rst one which is requested, goes. The quality of harmonies is the same. The= Digitech has got midi in/out/through and line in/out, so can work with gui= tar or keyboard. The H1 can only work with guitar and makes only two voices= (but it is smaller and lighter).

-=A0Korg iS50B Interactive Music Workstation:
my first music teacher. The first music I made, it was with it, no compute= r, no software, all composed and edited within this keyboard. Some of the s= ounds are outdated, but many of them I find them very beautiful. But, again= , with a midi keyboard and Ableton's synth, I just do not need it...


That's it.
Prices are all = speakable, so, just contact me=A0privately=A0and let's talk about it.

I live in North Germany, as for what=A0= concerns=A0shipping.


Ser
=

--bcaec55408263f838404cac6848c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 28 18:09:57 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98CB0183474; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 18:09:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 820150690/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED_DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.122.128/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.122.128 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApIBAJLnZVBPRnqA/2dsb2JhbAANOME9AQEBAwE4RgsLISUPAkYQDAEah2GkU5QCixoYgm2DIAObOI1EgWI X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,504,1344207600"; d="scan'208";a="820150690" Message-ID: <5065E7F6.40708@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:09:58 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: HELP with backing up insecure data for Y2K12 Loop Festival References: <50657AD0.6070208@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <50657AD0.6070208@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6X6r2B.A.EN.1feZQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118452 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 18:09:57 +0000 (UTC) Well, you *could* set up a network of course ;-) Less trouble is to use a usb flash drive to transfer data. Or alternatively, if you have a large SD card available a thrift shop card reader will turn that into a flash drive. andy Rick Walker wrote: > Can anyone recommend to me how I can get my 14 gigs of backup e-mail data, > email profiles and, most importantly, my email addresses from the MBP > to the WIN 7 machine. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 28 18:32:14 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 244E5183475; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 18:32:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 249962.97573.bm@omp1009.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1348857131; bh=9piDzPnhsfd/09want+3sNyidhyYywA32TvKaEce/Ag=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=H5dNN8m81nUgkYeYN9LaV4ErK79UVDsAWse8AyNNgdM6rgJ5Za+pwqoYrdOUtraRCCHXqml0TyE7wkiIJJ+xOqQFmI8Zz46Ab51u/Csqi+huO2hPsKYUXMcuMRR5PGPCTXePHSeOwYO01dBe+4Vkjqrjj/w1BOyMeig9GBwctuM= X-YMail-OSG: Ex1r_tUVM1mviqEPA7ZCWJR27TCweVZt9cQ05CKx64yl_3G 4L4e6uEqO8IbUipeJXFdwfCyrMxtnew3OTzSddeiOeXlGaVllTdgBBmAh1Ub 8qLeyC30aqurtbP2sSjgQtlTIdSxaWsT_6Nc17j545g5JJOnoFHthwNp1oV7 trmSNKhtYbv4oxARLXz8KTUd2DfYA01nHe7K_qlV1bkJqbuF4kYHWtqF3qTW HGgynnsqeb2QaNOqsB5hsLevJn8UGs0zy.fzOzw6jWDubpUdPYxuEHzPCnSz N58WQVwaiazPWnLPjTQkNX3VzqMbQegt.H3REtg9P90PGNNMsg3Ml5UgiV09 a4jtOeIbMlVZrOvi4159weWEq8inT7i35VL_YBxZmTQh_dkT.9jJIfC3XVw_ afeOT6_kSBGo2hQF5feOdb_0a9Rv6LcXh6i1tssG5WOBZH3AM3VHxIf9_rdy 4Fv4pPcxrj8kLEr0Jbrmk9pc8mAp1YnOKUYOffNbit7WgVrIWX1RkGpu_HOV Pebf8PkvY6uE8qQw9ks9RF5J2VGKBfsB8SpVsJ9rtbvcgIRgvBhvIMgKKtzp aJK8LKdfI.sBXeaiODh3ttNJt4tGdC_bIhHUDBbZJEXLI5Li5dsT9pJcPiZ5 pkbMX6EKZYbJf59fR9UnCdL7WkWaIRDR1tlsYdFCl.cYcZ2UO_uBQPuXxRh_ 3KycNzrM.J2tXW5odRjOnVrcRG.zMcEEYI_WZs5CNoNxt9hr.sRAMF5TrkiV 7OeqSBt8f_B8vCEcki2zIncDHZhRuqWcv.J6loOZOdEs60xKyXFf042cbJU2 o7j3oA0OM_p4aCvI9COo7VUzdYWKVxYuYZJPYiSUsa6gcWNT9Yo9bFqdp X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.434 Message-ID: <1348857131.76476.YahooMailClassic@web84510.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:32:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Mungenast Subject: Re: minimalist track To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="1023692596-1086943608-1348857131=:76476" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118453 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 18:32:13 +0000 (UTC) --1023692596-1086943608-1348857131=:76476 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable very cool! how can something be so calming and stimulating simultaneously? Tim Mungenast Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast Guitarist/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast --- On Fri, 9/28/12, Philip wrote: From: Philip Subject: Re: minimalist track To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Friday, September 28, 2012, 6:04 AM Love it!! On Sep 28, 2012, at 5:25 PM, X X wrote: absolutely fucking dope! > Subject: Re: minimalist track > From:=A0tedkillian@charter.net > Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 07:59:59 -0700 > To:=A0Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=A0 > Nice! >=A0 > On Sep 27, 2012, at 7:27 AM, RP Collier wrote: >=A0 > > Uploaded a recent track, a simple minimal sort of drone thumb piano wit= h improv fx processing. > >=A0 > > http://soundcloud.com/rpcollier/boop > >=A0 > > this is the thumb piano used: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/41969054@N00/sets/72157621975884568/ > >=A0 > > For all your repetition and boredom needs. > >=A0 > > regards > >=A0 > > BobC > --1023692596-1086943608-1348857131=:76476 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
very cool! how can something be so calming an= d stimulating simultaneously?

Tim Mungenast
Editor/Writer/Proofreader: www.linkedin.com/in/timmungenast
Guitaris= t/Composer/Vocalist: www.reverbnation.com/timmungenast

--- On Fri, 9/28/12, Philip <philip.ojc@gmail.com>= wrote:

From: Philip <philip.ojc@gmail.c= om>
Subject: Re: minimalist track
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deli= ght.com
Date: Friday, September 28, 2012, 6:04 AM

Love it!!


On Sep 28,= 2012, at 5:25 PM, X X wrote:

absolutely fucking dope!

> Subject: Re: minimalist= track
> From:&nbs= p;tedkillian@c= harter.net
> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 07:59:59 -0700
> To: Loopers-D= elight@loopers-delight.com
> 
> Nice!
> 
> On Sep 27, 2012, at 7:27 AM,= RP Collier wrote:
> 
> > Uploaded a recent track, a simple minimal sort= of drone thumb piano with improv fx processing.
> > 
> > http://soundcloud.com/r= pcollier/boop
> > 
> > this is the thumb piano used:
> >= http://www.flickr.com/photos/4196905= 4@N00/sets/72157621975884568/
> > 
> > For all your repetition an= d boredom needs.
> > 
> > regards
> > 
> > BobC
>

--1023692596-1086943608-1348857131=:76476-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Sep 28 19:12:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D7BE183473; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:12:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: <3x09@carlsonarts.com> X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 947260.55910.bm@smtp103.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: edywKIwVM1n89xBi9thVwS0kqoDEIkHW6JBPToHutbzhgf5 O8K3_Jv1tqHuZfpwlK0V48_IOS0WBE4C_z2o3qkCUmTE0ZeqP.WEn1ZOieca bl1Be2JHfRfxfgtq7tmFqdMXHyYSzpgf2PPgymSY6jdVOGT2ch9ZRTozKpfJ 2biovY0QLk75olkMo_6pAh8lNWjGNFtwvqeqvB_1NeASsz.gy05tef_QD7f2 w4qBokVssBQ5hkrKHgwuKNUYGAh7kG3fjG7VQYz_TCEqRVWKukHiuZByHFoR dWO2j0N6CawhDJNKCOfX4xVXzjnMucLCk1tbQL2TAszPj1PpNDkWYknP3k_t x9uXITKYcQI91p4j21ztxkICfAjdNuFbH79a4cTRHQh4URM5XzTfPGPe0mZL 5xOywK1TRC4MlY2FI5qOYyCBmh_zCL.txEiLFUcilLT7LUe5t3WUZGka.i.1 ln7znR.mL3bWeVqravyU_hbtxXbst5lqamxPk X-Yahoo-SMTP: D9yazeWswBDL7tdRauhy7AWumUUpVr1iIdv0O0tl6PLXPr1F References: <50657AD0.6070208@cruzio.com> <5065E7F6.40708@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5065E7F6.40708@tiscali.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: TripleOhNine <3x09@carlsonarts.com> Subject: Re: HELP with backing up insecure data for Y2K12 Loop Festival Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:12:21 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118454 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:12:23 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, Rick, I'm with Andy - go buy a 16GB usb flash drive, if you don't = have one, and export the data from thunderbird to that usb drive. Then, = at least you will have it backed up. Then, if you are still having = trouble, you can give me a call and I will try to help you import it = into Thunderbird on your Win 7 machine. =20 Also, don't buy the cheapest 16GB flash drive on the shelf, if you = really care about your data. Just sayin. =20 Michael Carlson On Sep 28, 2012, at 11:09 AM, andy butler wrote: > Well, you *could* set up a network of course ;-) >=20 >=20 > Less trouble is to use a usb flash drive to transfer data. >=20 > Or alternatively, if you have a large SD card available > a thrift shop card reader will turn that into a flash drive. >=20 > andy >=20 > Rick Walker wrote: >=20 >> Can anyone recommend to me how I can get my 14 gigs of backup e-mail = data, >> email profiles and, most importantly, my email addresses from the = MBP to the WIN 7 machine. >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 29 00:15:58 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7769A183473; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:15:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=o8vf1AKABCw76EFPfNLTSy467kL6OqkrhgG5gXhE54Y=; b=Ga3f/SaINgxezo1SuIG5aKaDCpc16b4c4VkI2YHWVFmln+rjxi+d58aZz1xsjfVPJF JRmopcS1uElbk3tx0aAxGSo0pM/RgzwofNEDw8OnlTmZcovHZuu6Nx75YSlJ123mx3hU 4lB/1aYLHtdfUM9kJoonAzep1vEqDryIyDyRbB45Zc+2jLyQiFVVxWYE0sUvZq2ZiAHm XPAZRb7oTGpvatVECoa3rIwVVdERVFn7ODNUB8jcgJOvtr3TUuB4BgvreYrAk2cSQYkI GaWj8/3a3aSJ9L09rylKN0n7dnk6ykp1bwjmBlsqaZEZpbX9vhb+KZ4m6zixDHAZottb Y86A== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: todd reynolds Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:15:17 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: minimalist track To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54ee28095191804cacc13bd Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118455 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:15:58 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec54ee28095191804cacc13bd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bob, I love this. just sounds beautiful. I'll revisit it many times. T. On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:27 AM, RP Collier wrote= : > Uploaded a recent track, a simple minimal sort of drone thumb piano with > improv fx processing. > > http://soundcloud.com/rpcollier/boop > > this is the thumb piano used: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/41969054@N00/sets/72157621975884568/ > > For all your repetition and boredom needs. > > regards > > BobC > --=20 call me at 917.576.6166 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 *The Best Classical Music of the Year, 2011* - Amazon.com =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever music is sold. Here's a direct link to Amazon, however! =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://mymicrolife.tumblr.com http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds need me right away? Call or text me at 917.576.6166 --bcaec54ee28095191804cacc13bd Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bob, =A0I love this. =A0just sounds beautiful. =A0I'll revisit it many = times. =A0

T.


On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:27 AM, RP Collier <skeptikalist@gmail.c= om> wrote:
Upl= oaded a recent track, a simple minimal sort of drone thumb piano with impro= v fx processing.

http://soundcloud.com/rpcollier/boop

this is = the thumb piano used:

For all your repetition and boredom needs.

regards

BobC=



--
c= all me at 917.576.6166
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
=95 The= Best Classical Music of=A0the Year, 2011 - Amazon.com

=95=A0Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now avail= able wherever music is sold. Here's a direct link to Amazon, however!=A0=

need me right away? =A0Call or text m= e at 917.576.6166



--bcaec54ee28095191804cacc13bd-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 29 00:17:48 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 87038183475; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:17:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=wVEKP7EE9oPn1+F3u6KSrcYmdOrlwkQqmJD6LZifu10=; b=A88YfRuxdHjX7N5XZj4mJJ2EX3bNwUVbiGmluKwXlzatS+Ehh9r2R33h2aXSB1k7tN 57+FxKEKhPrzTy544iWsgQlao6+jC+lExocOcLMCQkGxMeJGtaPgh2gmF3kqkvBOIHgR QitqAipxzud8klunseExYP2cofib6pFhn4vTxsojIC7KLztNr/BBfvjTzJE35wntxWvx 9Gdaj1vHMbW0DiEEm1uztXVKIhSQ4AOaVexismV47xLr1asqiTlBzeU4asSx++2mjF+2 yMm6WLugj35A12mvjKLHNvsR+DDNgaTZoZMRKTMxt2q687/7WA3blsdYN8wRXjyO2x5B WSOw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <50657AD0.6070208@cruzio.com> <5065E7F6.40708@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 17:17:47 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: HELP with backing up insecure data for Y2K12 Loop Festival From: Rob Jellinghaus To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b343e361ece8704cacc1aea Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118456 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:17:48 +0000 (UTC) --047d7b343e361ece8704cacc1aea Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +1. Definitely this is the way to go. USB flash drives are the new floppies, gigabyte style. On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:12 PM, TripleOhNine <3x09@carlsonarts.com> wrote: > Yeah, Rick, I'm with Andy - go buy a 16GB usb flash drive, if you don't > have one, and export the data from thunderbird to that usb drive. Then, at > least you will have it backed up. Then, if you are still having trouble, > you can give me a call and I will try to help you import it into > Thunderbird on your Win 7 machine. > > Also, don't buy the cheapest 16GB flash drive on the shelf, if you really > care about your data. Just sayin. > > Michael Carlson > > On Sep 28, 2012, at 11:09 AM, andy butler wrote: > > > Well, you *could* set up a network of course ;-) > > > > > > Less trouble is to use a usb flash drive to transfer data. > > > > Or alternatively, if you have a large SD card available > > a thrift shop card reader will turn that into a flash drive. > > > > andy > > > > Rick Walker wrote: > > > >> Can anyone recommend to me how I can get my 14 gigs of backup e-mail > data, > >> email profiles and, most importantly, my email addresses from the MBP > to the WIN 7 machine. > > > > > > -- Check my blog --> http://robjsoftware.org --047d7b343e361ece8704cacc1aea Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +1.=A0 Definitely this is the way to go.=A0 USB flash drives are the new fl= oppies, gigabyte style.
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 = at 12:12 PM, TripleOhNine <3x09@carlsonarts.com> wrote:
Yeah, Rick, I'm with Andy - go buy a 16GB usb flash dr= ive, if you don't have one, and export the data from thunderbird to tha= t usb drive. =A0Then, at least you will have it backed up. =A0Then, if you = are still having trouble, you can give me a call and I will try to help you= import it into Thunderbird on your Win 7 machine.

Also, don't buy the cheapest 16GB flash drive on the shelf, if you real= ly care about your data. =A0Just sayin.

Michael Carlson

On Sep 28, 2012, at 11:09 AM, andy butler wrote:

> Well, you *could* set up a network of course ;-)
>
>
> Less trouble is to use a usb flash drive to transfer data.
>
> Or alternatively, if you have a large SD card available
> a thrift shop card reader will turn that into a flash drive.
>
> andy
>
> Rick Walker wrote:
>
>> Can anyone recommend to me how I can get my 14 gigs of backup e-ma= il data,
>> email profiles and, most importantly, =A0my email addresses from t= he MBP to the WIN 7 machine.
>
>




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Great music & coo= l project Todd!  I am a bass player, a bass ensemble composer, & s= ound designer as well.  I really enjoyed the music I heard in the vide= o, and I really enjoyed the art/story as well, you have my highest complime= nts-good luck man! Steve Uccello

www.c= larifiedbirds.com 

From: George Matthews <gtmatthews@g= mail.com>
To: "Loop= ers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>= ;
Sent: Wednesday, Se= ptember 19, 2012 7:52 PM
Subject:= My All Double Bass Project

Hey Guys, I'v= e been slow around these parts the past year but only because I've been try= ing to survive my public school teaching job as well as working on a all do= uble bass album. Only one of the tunes on the album is looping double bass = and the rest only used my double bass but the songs were multi-tracked. I s= tarted a kickstarter campaign and I wanted you guys to check out the video = I made for it if you got 5 min to spare. If you end up digging it feel free= to share it with your musician brethren!

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/toddbass/todd-matthews= -debut-uh-oh-here-come-the-pig-mammot/

Feel free to contact me o= ff/on list if you have any thoughts.

-Todd Matthews



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--1078491548-392901532-1348879524=:39515-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 29 00:50:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 855DE183465; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:50:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=adDgaiJDEJaMEDuW9DiUIszLwJ9bEN9g5R6Y2G32R6s=; b=EwOBq/6s9mVn0FRSECjxb/Drtxx3Z9WxXJmkVo28ItuPnhQGGc5K8LiDljQGbT65yD IxR/y8Im6LTFKcnRMSgO0rizbxrQfQ433BoMf41HL6w/bYMPq/OXlAw8Z8X8cKsmLa6h HNx/xZPoofO04WTqcJt/YJIfIoY3tF7KhcJMMYjpETObs+KYJSo7Evj+w7rebXeozN7+ QqGPix+OcjZ20Rn/euheVe5zyEucWYN45ywXHWUZM2aKaE/yx9feeFXfBh4dKrB9TUOX oawgoGWGrVBasiHNx/PgxWr0ZYTeY4vrYaApQsv3HJmyqP4E8PY45bOlTSWefYLLFyE8 o8Uw== References: <769BAC09-F3B1-45C3-A5CB-E0D89C2A7E29@gmail.com> <1348879524.39515.YahooMailNeo@web121205.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1348879524.39515.YahooMailNeo@web121205.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9F03C22A-214E-4F6C-8D06-4F73A6BE43FD Message-Id: Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) From: Todd Reynolds Subject: Re: My All Double Bass Project Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:48:50 -0400 To: Steve Uccello Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118458 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:50:43 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-9F03C22A-214E-4F6C-8D06-4F73A6BE43FD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey steve, lovely to hear from you but you reached me! Not todd. I love the p= iggies too tho. Resend, my brother! Cheers, Todd.=20 Or call me at 917.576.6166 (or text) On Sep 28, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Steve Uccello wrote: > Great music & cool project Todd! I am a bass player, a bass ensemble comp= oser, & sound designer as well. I really enjoyed the music I heard in the v= ideo, and I really enjoyed the art/story as well, you have my highest compli= ments-good luck man! Steve Uccello >=20 > www.clarifiedbirds.com=20 >=20 > From: George Matthews > To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" =20 > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 7:52 PM > Subject: My All Double Bass Project >=20 > Hey Guys, I've been slow around these parts the past year but only because= I've been trying to survive my public school teaching job as well as workin= g on a all double bass album. Only one of the tunes on the album is looping d= ouble bass and the rest only used my double bass but the songs were multi-tr= acked. I started a kickstarter campaign and I wanted you guys to check out t= he video I made for it if you got 5 min to spare. If you end up digging it f= eel free to share it with your musician brethren! >=20 > http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/toddbass/todd-matthews-debut-uh-oh-her= e-come-the-pig-mammot/ >=20 > Feel free to contact me off/on list if you have any thoughts. >=20 > -Todd Matthews >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-9F03C22A-214E-4F6C-8D06-4F73A6BE43FD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Hey steve, lovely to hear f= rom you but you reached me! Not todd. I love the piggies too tho.  Rese= nd, my brother!  Cheers, Todd. 

Or call me at 917.576.6166 (= or text)

On Sep 28, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Steve Uccello <stevebassbird@yahoo.com> wrote:<= br>
Great music & cool project Todd!  I am a bass p= layer, a bass ensemble composer, & sound designer as well.  I reall= y enjoyed the music I heard in the video, and I really enjoyed the art/story= as well, you have my highest compliments-good luck man! Steve Uccello


Hey Guys, I= 've been slow around these parts the past year but only because I've been tr= ying to survive my public school teaching job as well as working on a all do= uble bass album. Only one of the tunes on the album is looping double bass a= nd the rest only used my double bass but the songs were multi-tracked. I sta= rted a kickstarter campaign and I wanted you guys to check out the video I m= ade for it if you got 5 min to spare. If you end up digging it feel free to s= hare it with your musician brethren!

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/toddbass/todd-matthews-de= but-uh-oh-here-come-the-pig-mammot/

Feel free to contact me off/o= n list if you have any thoughts.

-Todd Matthews




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= --Apple-Mail-9F03C22A-214E-4F6C-8D06-4F73A6BE43FD-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 29 01:05:57 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55CC9183473; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 01:05:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <50664970.4040505@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 21:05:52 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Soundscapes Concert Series Sunday Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118459 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 01:05:56 +0000 (UTC) Sunday, September 30, the Soundscapes Concert Series returns to the Nazareth Center for the Arts with Bernhard Wostheinrich and Tim Motzer from Germany and Philadelphia, respectively. BERNHARD WOSTHEINRICH: Bernhard leads his own solo project "The Redundant Rocker" and his main collaborator is Markus Reuter (in CENTROZOON). He has also worked with Ian Boddy, Klaus Hoffmann-Hoock, No-Man singer Tim Bowness, Thorsten Niestrath, and Synapscape's Philipp Münch. Bernhard elicits meaning from abstraction in electronic music and painting. He has studied graphic design and has created an eclectic body of work in both graphics and music. Using a compositional approach akin to his work as a visual artist, Bernhard usually begins by improvising abstract sonic structures which are subsequently developed into an increasingly detailed aural picture. TIM MOTZER: Based in Philadelphia, this guitarist and composer finds infinite joy in diversity. His output as a leader and sideman crisscrosses multiple musical universes, including jazz, fusion, prog, hip-hop, soul, electronica, and the avantgarde. Motzer gets to explore these genres and the intersections between them via his ubiquitous presence in the wildly deep and varied Philly scene, where he can be found working with the likes of DJ/Producer King Britt, spoken word/hip-hop artist Ursula Rucker, and jazz-fusion bassist Jamaaladeen Tacuma. He also traverses manifold territories through the many albums released on his own 1k Recordings label, including the expansive, laidback song forms of Nucultures, the crunchy jazz-funk of Jazzheads, and the solo soundscapes of his Tilomo alias. The Soundscapes Concert Series is the concert companion to the Galactic Travels radio program on WDIY-FM and to Thought Radio on WMUH-FM and presents electronic music to the Lehigh Valley. This is the concert series that presented Broekhuis, Keller & Schonwalder (Germany), Wave World (Netherlands), Dean DeBenedictis & Vic Hennegan (California), Bernhard Wosteinrich (Germany), Robert Rich (California), vidnaObmana (Belgium), The Ministry of Inside Things (Philadelphia), Richard Lainhart (New York), Orbital Decay (Quakertown), Mark Jenkins (UK), Mikronesia (Philadelphia), The Tangent Project (Philadelphia), Technicolor Travel Agency (Poconos), and Twyndyllyngs (Lehigh Valley) to local audiences. SOUNDSCAPES: http://soundscapes.us http://facebook.com/soundscapesconcerts http://myspace.com/soundscapesconcertseries From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 29 02:24:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E25B818345E; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 02:24:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: minimalist track References: From: Peter Koniuto Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9A4A9C0E-0F4D-4EA9-A51B-5BFA19B5AB92 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10A403) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <53A1BFF8-2E7D-4D71-B448-8C892DFCB4BE@redsunsoundroom.com> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 22:24:40 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - lava.liquidweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - redsunsoundroom.com Resent-Message-ID: <9hPVkB.A.kzE.tvlZQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118460 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 02:24:45 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-9A4A9C0E-0F4D-4EA9-A51B-5BFA19B5AB92 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I so very much dig it too! Wish I was a film-maker so I could use this for my score. Peter Peter Koniuto 518.892.6766 (m) On Sep 28, 2012, at 8:15 PM, todd reynolds wrote: > Bob, I love this. just sounds beautiful. I'll revisit it many times. =20= >=20 > T. >=20 >=20 > On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:27 AM, RP Collier wrot= e: >> Uploaded a recent track, a simple minimal sort of drone thumb piano with i= mprov fx processing. >>=20 >> http://soundcloud.com/rpcollier/boop >>=20 >> this is the thumb piano used: >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/41969054@N00/sets/72157621975884568/ >>=20 >> For all your repetition and boredom needs. >>=20 >> regards >>=20 >> BobC >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > call me at 917.576.6166 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > =E2=80=A2 The Best Classical Music of the Year, 2011 - Amazon.com >=20 > =E2=80=A2 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available whe= rever music is sold. Here's a direct link to Amazon, however!=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > http://toddreynolds.com > http://twitter.com/digifiddler > http://mymicrolife.tumblr.com > http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic > http://blog.toddreynolds.com > http://facebook.com/toddreynolds > http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds >=20 > need me right away? Call or text me at 917.576.6166 >=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-9A4A9C0E-0F4D-4EA9-A51B-5BFA19B5AB92 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I so very much dig it too!

Wish I was a film-maker so I could use this for my score.<= /div>

Peter

Peter Koniuto
518.892.6766 (m)

On Sep 28, 2012, at 8:15 PM, todd rey= nolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> w= rote:

Bob,  I love this. &n= bsp;just sounds beautiful.  I'll revisit it many times.  

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T.


On Thu, Sep 27, 2= 012 at 10:27 AM, RP Collier <skeptikalist@gmail.com> wrot= e:
Uploa= ded a recent track, a simple minimal sort of drone thumb piano with improv f= x processing.

http://soundcloud.com/rpcollier/boop

this is th= e thumb piano used:
h= ttp://www.flickr.com/photos/41969054@N00/sets/72157621975884568/<= /div>

For all your repetition and boredom needs.

regards

BobC



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= --Apple-Mail-9A4A9C0E-0F4D-4EA9-A51B-5BFA19B5AB92-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 29 08:28:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1D37183475; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 08:28:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5066B12A.3000002@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 04:28:26 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Thought Radio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118461 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 08:28:30 +0000 (UTC) THOUGHT RADIO: http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio ======================================================================= My next stint on Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show, will be Saturday, September 29 at 6 am EDT/GMT-4. In Phase One, I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs. I will also feature music by artists playing on September 30 at the Soundscapes Concert Series. I host the show every other week. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 29 11:24:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65A28183473; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 11:24:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JhrZaOfWreATdXV0TRdPwPDzGSiV+E+kZ6w3j5ZlbW8=; b=agX/+VhT+AVCxCP+n2aN3/KujwWfE0cNSxYQlKVXN5gCAraMvCWvk6mlfwXp843L9z B0pA1oqSud43vtWvhv9JNRFCmHd9PO8kb9rld+cf8p1YytwqXQN3Xo8AOjiUzEjKzlOq +4+EGZ3YotV1pn2XBCXhHUmr8veMYYvMRqnafYYO3LFNFGaJO1L+ga4LFUCabB605xcY Xl4mi3NBkowTICceCyJJiu3wATjrPOp0aRIEpPor40CYaFVZtTC9rPBQfT6T3v45tujb DRVbTcOJ63A01ldsy4w1WEFwSpCREiigcz4x5sdAAel/YeJbxeeqg2cuYAfjF4HyXo1X m3gg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <769BAC09-F3B1-45C3-A5CB-E0D89C2A7E29@gmail.com> References: <769BAC09-F3B1-45C3-A5CB-E0D89C2A7E29@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 13:24:41 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: My All Double Bass Project From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118462 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 11:24:42 +0000 (UTC) Hi Todd, I'm happy your album came out so good - as of one can hear in the video - and I think you're saying something really interesting too in that video! When you're talking about how live looping took you to the next level as a music creator. I too have experienced this "transformation of senses" and many others as well. It is about developing the necessary intellectual tools for working with options in layering without the need to hear them first (as is the sampling artist's curse). Fact is that if you can not imagine something it doesn't exist within your creative pallet. But what happens when one spends hours and days playing with a looper is that these new senses starts to grow in you and after a while you may even develop your own names for different kinds of blending certain types of layers from the same musical instrument. Not just "narcissist orchestration" IMHO but an amazing new field of untapped beauty within every single musical instrument. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 4:52 AM, George Matthews wro= te: > Hey Guys, I've been slow around these parts the past year but only becaus= e I've been trying to survive my public school teaching job as well as work= ing on a all double bass album. Only one of the tunes on the album is loopi= ng double bass and the rest only used my double bass but the songs were mul= ti-tracked. I started a kickstarter campaign and I wanted you guys to check= out the video I made for it if you got 5 min to spare. If you end up diggi= ng it feel free to share it with your musician brethren! > > http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/toddbass/todd-matthews-debut-uh-oh-he= re-come-the-pig-mammot/ > > Feel free to contact me off/on list if you have any thoughts. > > -Todd Matthews > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 29 13:10:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AB9D183474; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 13:10:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Tristan Zand Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Scape app by Brian Eno and Peter Chilvers Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 15:10:55 +0200 Message-Id: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118463 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 13:10:40 +0000 (UTC) Great app that just came out, looks great to create looping soudscapes. = Might want to check the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D8zNLlKRrUVk Cheers Z http://zzz.ch http://loopr.net= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 29 15:01:01 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5314D183475; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 15:01:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+lB4CQLXGhAk3a5OpW2xCunBWYGnJWfl1t9iyuiZD0I=; b=dLTqYiytdR4TB7Y4aO8+ZD0FHIwEx1svmjBQnTwSkch3gsE94S65Vrydr1CbAKCWcB HhsWq/jtKQg5zFQn/0P4ym8Az3P+byALHFKe4iQr2o/Az+tXCfQVpkVo9ja/IvUdSTmU qAU95kkr+KBVgpaqbX5VQbSTs5f/mYYNJ5Nu7UF6/xLMX7lJh7vBg34VxUOWUMhRavWy gU3eJqVM3bBfp8Fg3Jn4M0Lz2e5jMcdZwOxulNesZhA0gIrfzHK6ZYfyAAVC/A34M2AE zY5hVWqYhyIuBZKm/1ZWLOA95KdIiL9yKneaZbOuV8AAIhOE4gRM5rRmVtdEvQ5FHSBT U0dg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 17:00:58 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?The_Music_That_Just=E2=80=A6_Happens=21?= From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <5MIEL.A.UBD.s0wZQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118464 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 15:01:00 +0000 (UTC) Sometimes it is such an amazing trip to simply start playing to see what music will be coming through. Here's such a free solo improvisation on the Chapman Stick extended with the Mobius looper and a cello bow: http://soundcloud.com/pboy/the-music-that-just-happens Fun thing in this session was to make quite long loops and actually play the parts with some variation and sense of evolution. Then take it to the next level (which is what got recorded) where you use these long loops to remix while playing along. Five tracks in total plus live input is what's going on. A little too muddy here and there, fidelity-wise, but since I haven't found a technical solution for recording each looper track on it's own I take it for what it is. A mistake was to overplay a bit (on the dist melody part) too early on during the improvisation and as you know that is not curable because you have to keep up the attitude you start out with :-) Anyway, I enjoyed the noisy sound and the melodic textures that appear as different parts come together or diverge. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 29 15:30:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 990CE183474; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 15:30:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_11e315b6-3938-4e60-8a3e-418d10f36228_" X-Originating-IP: [176.70.91.92] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Subject: =?Windows-1252?Q?RE:_The_Mu?= =?Windows-1252?Q?sic_That_J?= =?Windows-1252?Q?ust=85_Happe?= =?Windows-1252?Q?ns!?= Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 15:30:34 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Sep 2012 15:30:35.0110 (UTC) FILETIME=[5EA92860:01CD9E57] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118465 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 15:30:36 +0000 (UTC) --_11e315b6-3938-4e60-8a3e-418d10f36228_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes very nice=2C and if it's is music that just happened=2C could it been i= n any other way? So could you even in theory have played this differently than you did? Right now I'm attending the intro course at EMS (electro aucostic studio in= Stockholm) and that experience will make music happened in other ways... P= erhaps. The course also make me reflect a lot on what music IS... A lot of the electro aucostic music is sort without key=2C it is SOUNDS tha= t are the elements not notes... Sorry for being long but you're piece made me think=2C good music should do= that=2C in some way give new insights and ideas... > Date: Sat=2C 29 Sep 2012 17:00:58 +0200 > Subject: The Music That Just=85 Happens! > From: perboysen@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Sometimes it is such an amazing trip to simply start playing to see > what music will be coming through. Here's such a free solo > improvisation on the Chapman Stick extended with the Mobius looper and > a cello bow: > http://soundcloud.com/pboy/the-music-that-just-happens >=20 > Fun thing in this session was to make quite long loops and actually > play the parts with some variation and sense of evolution. Then take > it to the next level (which is what got recorded) where you use these > long loops to remix while playing along. Five tracks in total plus > live input is what's going on. A little too muddy here and there=2C > fidelity-wise=2C but since I haven't found a technical solution for > recording each looper track on it's own I take it for what it is. A > mistake was to overplay a bit (on the dist melody part) too early on > during the improvisation and as you know that is not curable because > you have to keep up the attitude you start out with :-) Anyway=2C I > enjoyed the noisy sound and the melodic textures that appear as > different parts come together or diverge. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >=20 = --_11e315b6-3938-4e60-8a3e-418d10f36228_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes very nice=2C and if it'= =3Bs is music that just happened=2C could it been in any other way?

= So could you even in theory have played this differently than you did?
<= br>Right now I'=3Bm attending the intro course at EMS (electro aucostic = studio in Stockholm) and that experience will make music happened in other = ways... Perhaps. The course also make me reflect a lot on what music IS...<= br>A lot of the electro aucostic music is sort without key=2C it is SOUNDS = that are the elements not notes...
Sorry for being long but you'=3Bre= piece made me think=2C good music should do that=2C in some way give new i= nsights and ideas...

> Date:=3B Sat=2C 29 Sep 2012 17:=3B00= 8=3B58 +=3B0200
> Subject:=3B The Music That Just…=3B Happens= !=3B
> From:=3B perboysen@=3Bgmail.com
> To:=3B Loopers-D= elight@=3Bloopers-delight.com
>
> Sometimes it is such an amazing= trip to simply start playing to see
> what music will be coming through= . Here'=3Bs such a free solo
> improvisation on the Chapman Stick ext= ended with the Mobius looper and
> a cello bow:=3B
> http:=3B//= soundcloud.com/pboy/the-music-that-just-happens
>
> Fun thing in thi= s session was to make quite long loops and actually
> play the parts wit= h some variation and sense of evolution. Then take
> it to the next leve= l (=3Bwhich is what got recorded)=3B where you use these
> long lo= ops to remix while playing along. Five tracks in total plus
> live input= is what'=3Bs going on. A little too muddy here and there=2C
> fideli= ty-wise=2C but since I haven'=3Bt found a technical solution for
> re= cording each looper track on it'=3Bs own I take it for what it is. A
= > mistake was to overplay a bit (=3Bon the dist melody part)=3B too e= arly on
> during the improvisation and as you know that is not curable b= ecause
> you have to keep up the attitude you start out with :=3B-= 1=3B Anyway=2C I
> enjoyed the noisy sound and the melodic textures tha= t appear as
> different parts come together or diverge.
>
> Greet= ings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.perboysen.com
> http:= =3B//www.youtube.com/perboysen
>
= --_11e315b6-3938-4e60-8a3e-418d10f36228_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 29 15:43:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCBBB183473; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 15:43:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=vxFY9o8aGvVBYGqG6/R82mkDkE7YjlKs/7jjSjOBCWk=; b=uStMi5BS1CEDveNaNI62vdWRgmu7q9VbngGP8CA5Omn16Pa++7FH2j+DZlIF3BhxFM ylv7TEOpB3M+Jl7CiP0Jkj/YNN0hfdcL0UnufjGFfFQbtfR7cFc0eMZmdLV6p7H7P5Dx suCKuUqcbYMqMXfw5KfXHKriIi7DBkNHhbkSKSmXRECLymzvblpAIN+mSQVmO84szcTK Dz6jtKBVxdI3eNhkiV9MUnf88wZ6t4Oqaa77Myav15248yF7vsVxhC1oQ7BjGw+OqyJO QTCjKUgBOqLrCqcU4B6mw5yptdzgvKm2lpuxojfDS5zuO25amp8fQMun6fmjRBXgUiE6 ngvQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 17:43:19 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_The_Music_That_Just=E2=80=A6_Happens=21?= From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118466 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 15:43:20 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Anders Bergdahl wrote: > Yes very nice, and if it's is music that just happened, could it been in any > other way? > > So could you even in theory have played this differently than you did? Of course! It's a totally organic method, no random processing except for me making mistakes that inspire new directions. > Right now I'm attending the intro course at EMS (electro aucostic studio in > Stockholm) and that experience will make music happened in other ways... > Perhaps. The course also make me reflect a lot on what music IS... > A lot of the electro aucostic music is sort without key, it is SOUNDS that > are the elements not notes... Yes, that's amazing too but a totally different approach than my upload. I was more going along with the free space jazz tradition of the sixties - not in sound but in the human/organic method for instant composition (Pharoa Sanders, John Coltrane, Eric Dolphy and all related guys). Hey, cool that you're taking the EMS treat now! :-) Let us "locals" know if you guys are putting on some public concert during the course! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 29 15:47:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4899D183474; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 15:47:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=nlrKf9u5uG3fs/vD0VBbL3/xzyN25p4t1WHsSeqasGo= c=1 sm=1 a=1J0giljW-_cA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=jPJDawAOAc8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=UncmS/Am0Fgh8c8TZh5eWA==:17 a=myP459r3AAAA:8 a=dMZfGW12AAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=aMXenJw6lYpZaGkAqKUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=UncmS/Am0Fgh8c8TZh5eWA==:117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: =?windows-1252?Q?Re=3A_The_Music_That_Just=85_Happens!?= From: Ted Killian In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 08:47:26 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1102B749-3153-4B25-A95A-02A0EA370479@charter.net> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Resent-Message-ID: <5JDS7C.A.M3D.QgxZQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118467 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 15:47:28 +0000 (UTC) Per, That was as lovely a piece of music as I've ver heard from you...and = I've heard a lot of excellent stuff over the years. Peace, Ted On Sep 29, 2012, at 8:00 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Sometimes it is such an amazing trip to simply start playing to see > what music will be coming through. Here's such a free solo > improvisation on the Chapman Stick extended with the Mobius looper and > a cello bow: > http://soundcloud.com/pboy/the-music-that-just-happens >=20 > Fun thing in this session was to make quite long loops and actually > play the parts with some variation and sense of evolution. Then take > it to the next level (which is what got recorded) where you use these > long loops to remix while playing along. Five tracks in total plus > live input is what's going on. A little too muddy here and there, > fidelity-wise, but since I haven't found a technical solution for > recording each looper track on it's own I take it for what it is. A > mistake was to overplay a bit (on the dist melody part) too early on > during the improvisation and as you know that is not curable because > you have to keep up the attitude you start out with :-) Anyway, I > enjoyed the noisy sound and the melodic textures that appear as > different parts come together or diverge. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 29 17:10:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9085D183464; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 17:10:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; bh=INvqh1P+m9lgHQ5THDrfhMiw1nija24btax7hDo9Mn0=; b=EZOI8HjqEC0uXFlGwBpGAyrdlmtDihPazSmWbYcOst0aXDGMfj5eOetnLKPgiz+gte er7rcXaoh17qz9tn+4E1yxzhhn4Jrfcv3scyFi7yWwpbU4mWlGCiagEBq2G5M2RuJfEt sANShYsN+9a7Ri+NWbSYldwQJ9HzJpBDVSaNf/vium3uDR5MSpdwb2oxLrrGkzoPZvAf QzB/shX0rAWRtARHwhKxqlw2aMfzmXpimT9whq7HSaNmFKfdovb9tVLo/C7WLJfXN2dH rUirsUtVaPMGr7qi2l30BknD4Nt3REkN6pPMiYnUoFmr9nDxD7FDjd/j1LBNUBM3C0iH UZEg== Message-Id: <55961B04-E1CC-4AC3-9E81-9CFEBB37373B@gmail.com> From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--883263654 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: minimalist track Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 10:10:07 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <85N6dB.A.Z1E.0tyZQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118468 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 17:10:12 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--883263654 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Often with my own music, I am not sure if my reasons for liking a track are so idiosyncratic or arcane that the track may not genuinely cross the threshold to qualify as something share-worthy. Thanks for the listens, and thanks for the positive comments posted. Very heartening. cheers BobC > Uploaded a recent track, a simple minimal sort of drone thumb piano > with improv fx processing. > > http://soundcloud.com/rpcollier/boop --Apple-Mail-2--883263654 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Often = with my own music, I am not sure if my reasons for liking a track are so = idiosyncratic or arcane 
that the track may not = genuinely cross the threshold to qualify as something = share-worthy. 

Thanks for the listens, and = thanks for the positive comments posted.
Very = heartening.

cheers

BobC





Uploaded = a recent track, a simple minimal sort of drone thumb piano with improv = fx processing.

http://soundcloud.com/rpcollier/boop

= --Apple-Mail-2--883263654-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 29 17:32:32 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4383D183477; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 17:32:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=DtCLfyXosEdeLvoprQf85d98VZV9rn3qqZVwil8bRW8=; b=hTxba9jfOkTPLOdHZ1RaWEUSn2X+rGO9XUizyTME4LmUeXKalfUIujIB0pJYd6CKc5 AGCK9gDcEWAx3OcXP+c+Q1Gbl1dAzjZroMSbg4vNS9zhbaHivj9tljE6QwAkiL7OxGHv Z1bykabaC1U4K1qWlMa/qoclnFqRWqcJ7yt4rsTy/AZwkalhREFDXYoyKzXb7Wh3hUXV 9jzbsD+aDvG3c57H7QprUc2ZOEeQ5DUZUwLMMHf4BKkjFBjHSTHUhhwonITSBQrtoHO9 95DjirPOBpo+n6fQxq617dCuRxIwTOK/8c4527d22hPFCebvU1RE2FfKJBGCTmKbOuIL tNtQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <55961B04-E1CC-4AC3-9E81-9CFEBB37373B@gmail.com> References: <55961B04-E1CC-4AC3-9E81-9CFEBB37373B@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 10:32:30 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: minimalist track From: "kay'lon rushing" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf302077dc95616504cada8e06 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118469 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 17:32:31 +0000 (UTC) --20cf302077dc95616504cada8e06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cool glitchy effects! I ended up listening though almost all of your soundcloud, it was relaxing On Sep 29, 2012 10:10 AM, "RP Collier" wrote: > > Often with my own music, I am not sure if my reasons for liking a track > are so idiosyncratic or arcane > that the track may not genuinely cross the threshold to qualify as > something share-worthy. > > Thanks for the listens, and thanks for the positive comments posted. > Very heartening. > > cheers > > BobC > > > > > > Uploaded a recent track, a simple minimal sort of drone thumb piano with > improv fx processing. > > http://soundcloud.com/rpcollier/boop > > > --20cf302077dc95616504cada8e06 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Cool glitchy effects! I ended up listening though almost all of your sou= ndcloud, it was relaxing

On Sep 29, 2012 10:10 AM, "RP Collier"= <skeptikalist@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:

Often with my = own music, I am not sure if my reasons for liking a track are so idiosyncra= tic or arcane=A0
that the track may not genuinely cross the = threshold to qualify as something share-worthy.=A0

Thanks for the listens, and thanks for the positive com= ments posted.
Very heartening.

cheers

BobC





Uploaded a recent track, a simple minimal sort of drone thumb piano with im= prov fx processing.

http://soundcloud.com/rpcollier/boop

--20cf302077dc95616504cada8e06-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 29 19:18:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0AEDA183475; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 19:18:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 440675.66754.bm@omp1046.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1348946283; bh=oE7bdogaTjaQ6+7GNRxc+hiipdjbSoIoUYMB16/zhj8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=U3O8kHSraaFJlSsn8Ee1oCOKR0ZdWIAolF+WiXC5ieDGLtB1cFvqtF/N8njmIszyGV12Vpv2v+mDhUgsZr6HK3Tq+guNgZB3e/9ibjYdJLijh54DErWRO28nc4VuzUuvdlXtKn0ABaU8ZeqAaKEdt8MHsTaP9pnyIOpGfU1qHUs= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nHz3i/asLXSLfE54Jo3AmE2MzlVxgZI4VO4oYw3TpAjv4M5+tywV+2MT/+cUsyVuSJN29HiKR+VKyQAHWCa7CMOIV/yFb668drfERHXbmmURkL8TkzpKXBFkV+qGr8IEI7P00yKPiDbtkXTHJzC3CWjkZoZ9lUiQiT7WDn+eKfk=; X-YMail-OSG: jBI1.mEVM1k3TVcbjQWjtt4rP6vIRUyc_aE.7F4EVrbd5SP oyG_M.5_n5BD4c05BqsshG0tFvQGHvDNteyTbpNyfhdNYLoRTNiYuEdPuJ.T o7RFEU9_mTwGhkLdhOrFfJDTs5.PpbgLR6w61jdiozIQTD2N6ML.UoqPGenV NqdASODuiLf94LuKYuE4QdKnyZavLpFA2ahGRKTUwkufkb_xCzrD9qlDCFyt cpL0JB1GgNvdFdRdGqrAeqP0aR_ZSYCZOk6mHZZ5jeecmr3s8L4qkooSRwMt zl6ck4Zvlg1jIbO_ChnXNaZmnhHdqAdaBwyIiuL2Q5wjunnhbYU1GLI06891 oAOQpGl67lXNTUgl.4A3Q.wfin_NnnsTITno5jqHpEM_IHZcurOa77kkt1Pj uzhqv7L0jVy7nZSgC5ZxK.V7Fp_233LxMEh0yCEToiuHEPyLXibrlKG3ACPz wRlWj_17R.Cq94c1KJxUR1fHI5BLqIiXWCq2luWut6fuqdI_Nez3MR1sijrc ZMlJ2e_LhjYfJFSyHujWCPwndS0RC7hWpFd33Y78CTJI1NVodsmaNBqQq.jb _fA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.434 Message-ID: <1348946283.18992.YahooMailNeo@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 12:18:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Luis Angulo Reply-To: Luis Angulo Subject: Best useful music Iphone Apps for teaching learning looping etc. To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="506312955-1339764390-1348946283=:18992" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118470 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 19:18:04 +0000 (UTC) --506312955-1339764390-1348946283=:18992 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hey gang,=0AIm collecting infos on the best music apps outhere for the ipho= ne=0A=0Aat the moment im looking for one that would recognize the chords i = play on the guitar and tell me the name of them,is there such a thing?=0Ast= ill hunting for the best to read lyrics onstage or notation and offcourse l= ooping=0A=0Aso far ive downloaded a great metronome and tuner and offcourse= the mighty flashlight:-))=0Athanx a lot!=0A=0ALuis=0Awww.luis-angulo.com --506312955-1339764390-1348946283=:18992 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hey gang,<= /span>
Im collecting infos on the best music apps outhere f= or the iphone

at the mom= ent im looking for one that would recognize the chords i play on the guitar= and tell me the name of them,is there such a thing?
still hunting for the best to read lyrics onstage or notation and offcour= se looping
so far ive downloaded a great metrono= me and tuner and offcourse the mighty flashlight:-))
thanx a lot!

Luis
www.luis-angulo.com
 

--506312955-1339764390-1348946283=:18992-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 29 19:52:55 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6B83183475; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 19:52:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <506750B6.30009@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 15:49:10 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Thought Radio Playlist for September 29, 2012. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6zzH6.A.rpG.XG1ZQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118471 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 19:52:55 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2012/120929.html The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EDT/GMT-4 on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am.http://soundscapes.us/afterglow I played music by Bernhard Wostheinrich and Tim Motzer who will play at Event Horizon tonight and at the Soundscapes Concert Series tomorrow night. http://soundscapes.us Show #234 September 29, 2012. Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [Ron Boots] The Run Sequences No. 20 VA [Under the Dome] Hell Sequences No. 20 VA [Nova 21] The Dreamer Sequences No. 20 VA [Tim Motzer] April 16, 2011 Home Patterning (Periphery) The Redundant Rocker Alluvium Heart (Unsung) Ian Boddy and Scorpio Moire (DiN) Bernhard Wostheinrich Robert Rich Moss Carpet, Sky Nest (Soundscape) Blanket Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Paz del Castillo Latiedo Eleven Days (Neuronium) Tim Glamser The Amber Field Painted Echoes (none) Johannes Linstead Vagabomd Stomp Tales of a Gypsy (none) Mark Wingfield and An Unseen Turn of An Illustrated Silence Kevin Kastning Step (greydisc) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== John Galgano 1000 Real Life Is Meeting (Doone) Lirgo Future Dictionary 2 (Moonjune) Under the Psycamore The OWLS [A.N.W.T.S] I (7D Media) Under the Psycamore Beyond the Fire I I (7D Media) Under the Psycamore Beyond the Fire II I (7D Media) Alan Morse Cold Fusion * Four O'clock and Hysteria (InsideOut) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. See you on October 6, 2012. Bill Fox ======================================================================== Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EDT/GMT-4. Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music. Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Website - http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 30 05:20:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B318B183476; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 05:20:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4b73b9bc77e84f2e745adaddd456b616.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <20120928183215.27C65183476@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20120928183215.27C65183476@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 22:20:49 -0700 Subject: Re: HELP with backing up insecure data for Y2K12 Loop Festival From: looppool@cruzio.com To: "andy butler" Cc: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118472 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 05:20:51 +0000 (UTC) Thanks so much everyone, for your ideas on how to save my Y2K12 data. I had already purchased a 32 GB flash drive and am awaiting it in the mail, as we speak. This community just rocks, heavily........ see you at the festival, everyone! gratefully, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 30 08:47:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EDDE8183474; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 08:47:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=omB30pjGYQHdSZ8oHF3dXdGBf4HZnxVw3ecsFncCABk=; b=g5Sh8v7cfQmyPb4jChVa8evWwYNV6wOWJrVf8qV9zAo0Tub7/vqaiouspynTt7ot0A 1eXYZ15FTrBjKijkxSOdce9G/F0vWgVx/k3sN6s8B24Y5BrteVAwcFNvLeR8xOhlTD8J OPwiSaln69Tn9dskS19zBYMzESkCC5L7MG3HRTYla8ujIVWVbWxgJn13xJ3RjAxO+6lu l64O5A4Ftmq9T9o9b876hMqNFrLslF5haLmWe1NXTFLDQcdyXUkr0ssZ4EwVFQko+E/j wPnOD7MwEzoUBmxZe+KP++LGhNFgrILvfxB5I5tpQPBSedj9UE7URQ+1mWcFH2wioAaF 4bCA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 01:47:10 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Another birthday party performance From: "kay'lon rushing" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d59d98b34b8504cae755c7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118473 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 08:47:12 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d59d98b34b8504cae755c7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Just performed at my friend's birthday party/hangout earlier today. Here's a video 0.00000389210766654658910 --0016e6d59d98b34b8504cae755c7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

Just performed at my friend's birthday party/hangout earlier today. Here's a video 0.00000389210766654658910

--0016e6d59d98b34b8504cae755c7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 30 09:23:11 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3840D183474; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 09:23:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authenticated: #113868007 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1//10sLQOf/++FWF7QkMTdSfjeMfd9iy7EKygXOYu l4nrhc4+0WXZ4H From: Christoph Lehmann Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_860FA0D6-C2DA-491C-B294-2833BE108E32" Subject: Re: Another birthday party performance Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 11:23:07 +0200 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118474 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 09:23:11 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail=_860FA0D6-C2DA-491C-B294-2833BE108E32 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hey Kay'lon, Theres no link. Just a weird numerical series ? Am 30.09.2012 um 10:47 schrieb kay'lon rushing: > Just performed at my friend's birthday party/hangout earlier today. = Here's a video 0.00000389210766654658910 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_860FA0D6-C2DA-491C-B294-2833BE108E32 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
Hey Kay'lon,
Theres no link. Just a weird numerical series ?

Am 30.09.2012 um 10:47 schrieb kay'lon rushing:

Just performed at my friend's birthday party/hangout earlier today. Here's a video 0.00000389210766654658910


--Apple-Mail=_860FA0D6-C2DA-491C-B294-2833BE108E32-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 30 11:53:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C607183464; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 11:53:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=+r35lmpfYb5sJ00Da3DiumJuO/pI3H3E8lOudZtZzJM=; b=Zr0HUcxYdta0HSvCiJKPh9OWDal+KwId4hzN5IF4rh9XhbKSXaB9tJ9cEXRjDq7I+q /hrwwLY33yAS0OxrdIFfhqPXmbLUdDcrniGPthCcMJVmdDg33RlZuzNApDdWfH72CPjw f9QObpLRj28QjkfyDlCgj3bXlfV7yUBJSSlYbSPhybI8jfP3mq901Re128w4Mw6CgfcS KaaD14aC30lYAZAJ26aNwYX4MBVGGbatAPpGlXil32us0U3x57axyf6eJ15bBVZTgIeU afmFzRIQjcuhAj/ccdm8b/Dlfkxrb2GyQRCOiVX9zEHjf9cUEsFmgYp4E9TVAG1ieSUs s9Kw== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.1 \(1498\)) Subject: Re: My All Double Bass Project From: George Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 07:53:02 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <65EB74F3-3E72-461D-9782-C82FF7CA16B8@gmail.com> References: <769BAC09-F3B1-45C3-A5CB-E0D89C2A7E29@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1498) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118475 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 11:53:06 +0000 (UTC) Thank you, Per, Todd and Steve :) !! Per, I wish you could have explained it on my video so eloquently. While = learning the differences over time when you layer your instrument, play = it back in different directions, speeds, with or without effects, I = completely agree that your instrument becomes a limitless source of = untapped beauty :) With looping you also don't have to worry about your = drunk drummer showing up to rehearsal late! -Todd Matthews On Sep 29, 2012, at 7:24 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Hi Todd, >=20 > I'm happy your album came out so good - as of one can hear in the > video - and I think you're saying something really interesting too in > that video! When you're talking about how live looping took you to the > next level as a music creator. I too have experienced this > "transformation of senses" and many others as well. It is about > developing the necessary intellectual tools for working with options > in layering without the need to hear them first (as is the sampling > artist's curse). Fact is that if you can not imagine something it > doesn't exist within your creative pallet. But what happens when one > spends hours and days playing with a looper is that these new senses > starts to grow in you and after a while you may even develop your own > names for different kinds of blending certain types of layers from the > same musical instrument. Not just "narcissist orchestration" IMHO but > an amazing new field of untapped beauty within every single musical > instrument. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >=20 >=20 > On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 4:52 AM, George Matthews = wrote: >> Hey Guys, I've been slow around these parts the past year but only = because I've been trying to survive my public school teaching job as = well as working on a all double bass album. Only one of the tunes on the = album is looping double bass and the rest only used my double bass but = the songs were multi-tracked. I started a kickstarter campaign and I = wanted you guys to check out the video I made for it if you got 5 min to = spare. If you end up digging it feel free to share it with your musician = brethren! >>=20 >> = http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/toddbass/todd-matthews-debut-uh-oh-her= e-come-the-pig-mammot/ >>=20 >> Feel free to contact me off/on list if you have any thoughts. >>=20 >> -Todd Matthews >>=20 >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 30 16:40:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C842183475; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 16:40:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=mBey93L1zp/mtt0U+4E/u6/YrztcG0b3fjD9A/k1+pc=; b=rW0Yb4kj2aRlOpkKIUeplF8WjBMMBk6csnkQwe7IX9uLShefHjx0HapAxdD6PFlHjl w42PuMLQd2/5d1zJWhsWsMfEKQcPXwCl+EksRW95j6EQlQiIsOw6kyTE6PewsKFB4XV9 w5y5t2AySAKi3Tbkyq5CV4zYCJJAafIkQvK+LOj5/CdEw+dP3Gngzh0W5+ouBqvV4qo6 x8Juz9sm+3/h2rKsIwkKBzJFsnh1lfHfyGNKRh9CBs0fzTLYfDmvZKy7q2JmLnjPncCF 4xMPLoufbd1adabvCqycAO8nFye3UGLhETBMENZsswxUeiTBVBhywJ5i1tFXPVkBaDzu H3jA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 09:40:10 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Another birthday party performance From: "kay'lon rushing" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d59d98454b3804caedf144 Resent-Message-ID: <56aEV.A.FCD.sXHaQB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/118476 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 16:40:12 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d59d98454b3804caedf144 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sorry about that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw7qVqiOBa0&feature=youtube_gdata_player Dont know what happened there haha. On Sep 30, 2012 2:23 AM, "Christoph Lehmann" wrote: > Hey Kay'lon, > Theres no link. Just a weird numerical series ? > > Am 30.09.2012 um 10:47 schrieb kay'lon rushing: > > Just performed at my friend's birthday party/hangout earlier today. Here's > a video 0.00000389210766654658910 > > > --0016e6d59d98454b3804caedf144 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Sorry about that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dvw7qVqiOBa0&feature= =3Dyoutube_gdata_player
Dont know what happened there haha.

On Sep 30, 2012 2:23 AM, "Christoph Lehmann= " <krrrs@gmx.de> wrote:
Hey Kay'lon,
Theres = no link. Just a weird numerical series ?

Am 30.09.2012 u= m 10:47 schrieb kay'lon rushing:

Just performed at my friend's birthday party/hangout earlier today. Her= e's a video 0.00000389210766654658910


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