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<head><style>body{font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-co=
lor:#ffffff;color:black;}p{margin:0px;}</style></head><body><font color=3D"=
#000000"><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"arial,sans-serif">that was it Ted-i=
 had the early 90s vhs live tape of one of their performances-mathy &amp; f=
rippy w/ guitar feedback thrown in on a doubleneck-cool stuff for the times=
. i guess some version of that band is still going. utube etc....<br></font=
></font></font><blockquote style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; BO=
RDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid">-----Original Message-----
<br>From: tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net>
<br>Sent: Aug 31, 2011 4:08 PM
<br>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
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<br><br><div align=3D"LEFT"><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"2" color=3D"#000=
000" letterspacing=3D"0" kerning=3D"0">Hmmmm,</font></div><font face=3D"Ver=
dana" size=3D"2" color=3D"#000000" letterspacing=3D"0" kerning=3D"0"><br></=
font><div align=3D"LEFT"><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"2" color=3D"#000000=
" letterspacing=3D"0" kerning=3D"0">Wasn't there a band in the mid '80s cal=
led that (maybe spelled Djam Karet if I actually recall)?</font></div><font=
 face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"2" color=3D"#000000" letterspacing=3D"0" kerning=
=3D"0"><br></font><div align=3D"LEFT"><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"2" col=
or=3D"#000000" letterspacing=3D"0" kerning=3D"0">It seems I remember so.</f=
ont></div><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"2" color=3D"#000000" letterspacing=
=3D"0" kerning=3D"0"><br></font><div align=3D"LEFT"><font face=3D"Verdana" =
size=3D"2" color=3D"#000000" letterspacing=3D"0" kerning=3D"0">Or not . . .=
</font></div><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"2" color=3D"#000000" letterspac=
ing=3D"0" kerning=3D"0"><br></font><div align=3D"LEFT"><font face=3D"Verdan=
a" size=3D"2" color=3D"#000000" letterspacing=3D"0" kerning=3D"0">On Wed, A=
ug 31, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Daniel Thomas wrote:</font></div><font face=3D"Verd=
ana" size=3D"2" color=3D"#000000" letterspacing=3D"0" kerning=3D"0"><br></f=
ont><div align=3D"LEFT"><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"2" color=3D"#000000"=
 letterspacing=3D"0" kerning=3D"0">&nbsp;<font size=3D"3">Thanks for the cl=
arification and you're right.&nbsp; I'd forgotten the patch.&nbsp;&nbsp; Yo=
u used that </font></font></div><div align=3D"LEFT"><font face=3D"Verdana" =
size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" letterspacing=3D"0" kerning=3D"0">on "Jam Kare=
t"&nbsp; on the Worlds Collide, CD,&nbsp; correct?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm st=
ill very proud of that track and especially your playing on it, Bill. </fon=
t></div><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"2" color=3D"#000000" letterspacing=
=3D"0" kerning=3D"0"><br></font><div align=3D"LEFT"><font face=3D"Verdana" =
size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" letterspacing=3D"0" kerning=3D"0">Jam Karet-&n=
bsp; Time IS rubber.--&nbsp; </font></div><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"2"=
 color=3D"#000000" letterspacing=3D"0" kerning=3D"0"><br></font><div align=
=3D"LEFT"><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" letterspacing=
=3D"0" kerning=3D"0">And time really&nbsp; is rubber when you are&nbsp; a r=
ecording archivist like me.&nbsp;&nbsp; </font></div><font face=3D"Verdana"=
 size=3D"2" color=3D"#000000" letterspacing=3D"0" kerning=3D"0"><br></font>=
<div align=3D"LEFT"><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" let=
terspacing=3D"0" kerning=3D"0">Proof-- fresh from my time bending machine--=
 a moment nearly lost-- Jam Karet with the fabulous band, Worlds Collide.&n=
bsp; <font size=3D"2"></font></font></div><div align=3D"LEFT"><font face=3D=
"Verdana" size=3D"3" color=3D"#3333FF" letterspacing=3D"0" kerning=3D"0"><a=
 target=3D"_BLANK" href=3D"https://files.me.com/danielthomas4/mv532s.mp3"><=
u>https://files.me.com/danielthomas4/mv532s.mp3</u></a><a target=3D"_BLANK"=
 href=3D"https://files.me.com/danielthomas4/mv532s.mp3"></a></font></div><f=
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Yes and they are still around. I saw them at NEARFest.

On Aug 31, 2011 7:08 PM, "tEd =AE kiLLiAn" <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
>
> Hmmmm,
>
> Wasn't there a band in the mid '80s called that (maybe spelled Djam
> Karet if I actually recall)?
>
> It seems I remember so.
>
> Or not . . .
>
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Daniel Thomas wrote:
>
> Thanks for the clarification and you're right. I'd forgotten the
> patch. You used that
> on "Jam Karet" on the Worlds Collide, CD, correct? I'm still very
> proud of that track and especially your playing on it, Bill.
>
> Jam Karet- Time IS rubber.--
>
> And time really is rubber when you are a recording archivist like me.
>
> Proof-- fresh from my time bending machine-- a moment nearly lost-- Jam
> Karet with the fabulous band, Worlds Collide.
> https://files.me.com/danielthomas4/mv532s.mp3
> <https://files.me.com/danielthomas4/mv532s.mp3>
> <https://files.me.com/danielthomas4/mv532s.mp3>
>
> D
>

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<p>Yes and they are still around. I saw them at NEARFest.</p>
<p>On Aug 31, 2011 7:08 PM, &quot;tEd =AE kiLLiAn&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:tedkillian@charter.net">tedkillian@charter.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D=
"attribution">&gt; <br>&gt; Hmmmm,<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Wasn&#39;t there a band=
 in the mid &#39;80s called that (maybe spelled Djam <br>
&gt; Karet if I actually recall)?<br>&gt; <br>&gt; It seems I remember so.<=
br>&gt; <br>&gt; Or not . . .<br>&gt; <br>&gt; On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 3:58=
 PM, Daniel Thomas wrote:<br>&gt; <br>&gt;   Thanks for the clarification a=
nd you&#39;re right.  I&#39;d forgotten the <br>
&gt; patch.   You used that<br>&gt; on &quot;Jam Karet&quot;  on the Worlds=
 Collide, CD,  correct?    I&#39;m still very <br>&gt; proud of that track =
and especially your playing on it, Bill.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Jam Karet-  Time =
IS rubber.--<br>
&gt; <br>&gt; And time really  is rubber when you are  a recording archivis=
t like me.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Proof-- fresh from my time bending machine-- a =
moment nearly lost-- Jam <br>&gt; Karet with the fabulous band, Worlds Coll=
ide.<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"https://files.me.com/danielthomas4/mv532s.mp3">https://file=
s.me.com/danielthomas4/mv532s.mp3</a> <br>&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"https://files=
.me.com/danielthomas4/mv532s.mp3">https://files.me.com/danielthomas4/mv532s=
.mp3</a>&gt; <br>
&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"https://files.me.com/danielthomas4/mv532s.mp3">https://=
files.me.com/danielthomas4/mv532s.mp3</a>&gt;<br>&gt; <br>&gt; D<br>&gt; <b=
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Tony, I was at that NEARfest, as well! I recall a wonderful performance =
by Under The Sun, a blistering set by Porcupine Tree, and a jaw dropper =
from California Guitar Trio with Tony Levin. Great weekend!

All the best,

Loren Claypool
genre-indifferent instrumental guitar music
www.lorenclaypool.com and links from there



On Aug 31, 2011, at 9:37 PM, Tony K wrote:

> Yes and they are still around. I saw them at NEARFest.
>=20
> On Aug 31, 2011 7:08 PM, "tEd =AE kiLLiAn" <tedkillian@charter.net> =
wrote:
> >=20
> > Hmmmm,
> >=20
> > Wasn't there a band in the mid '80s called that (maybe spelled Djam=20=

> > Karet if I actually recall)?
> >=20
> > It seems I remember so.
> >=20
> > Or not . . .
> >=20
> > On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Daniel Thomas wrote:
> >=20
> > Thanks for the clarification and you're right. I'd forgotten the=20
> > patch. You used that
> > on "Jam Karet" on the Worlds Collide, CD, correct? I'm still very=20
> > proud of that track and especially your playing on it, Bill.
> >=20
> > Jam Karet- Time IS rubber.--
> >=20
> > And time really is rubber when you are a recording archivist like =
me.
> >=20
> > Proof-- fresh from my time bending machine-- a moment nearly lost-- =
Jam=20
> > Karet with the fabulous band, Worlds Collide.
> > https://files.me.com/danielthomas4/mv532s.mp3=20
> > <https://files.me.com/danielthomas4/mv532s.mp3>=20
> > <https://files.me.com/danielthomas4/mv532s.mp3>
> >=20
> > D
> >=20
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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Tony, =
I was at that NEARfest, as well! I recall a wonderful performance by =
Under The Sun, a blistering set by Porcupine Tree, and a jaw dropper =
from California Guitar Trio with Tony Levin. Great =
weekend!<div><br><div>
<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; =
color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
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auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div><div>All the =
best,</div><div><br></div><div>Loren =
Claypool</div><div>genre-indifferent instrumental guitar =
music</div><div><a =
href=3D"http://www.lorenclaypool.com">www.lorenclaypool.com</a> and =
links from there</div></div><div><br></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">
</div>
<br><div><div>On Aug 31, 2011, at 9:37 PM, Tony K wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><p>Yes and =
they are still around. I saw them at NEARFest.</p><p>On Aug 31, 2011 =
7:08 PM, "tEd =AE kiLLiAn" &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tedkillian@charter.net">tedkillian@charter.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br type=3D"attribution">&gt; <br>&gt; Hmmmm,<br>&gt; <br>&gt; =
Wasn't there a band in the mid '80s called that (maybe spelled Djam <br>
&gt; Karet if I actually recall)?<br>&gt; <br>&gt; It seems I remember =
so.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Or not . . .<br>&gt; <br>&gt; On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 =
at 3:58 PM, Daniel Thomas wrote:<br>&gt; <br>&gt;   Thanks for the =
clarification and you're right.  I'd forgotten the <br>
&gt; patch.   You used that<br>&gt; on "Jam Karet"  on the Worlds =
Collide, CD,  correct?    I'm still very <br>&gt; proud of that track =
and especially your playing on it, Bill.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Jam Karet-  =
Time IS rubber.--<br>
&gt; <br>&gt; And time really  is rubber when you are  a recording =
archivist like me.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Proof-- fresh from my time bending =
machine-- a moment nearly lost-- Jam <br>&gt; Karet with the fabulous =
band, Worlds Collide.<br>
&gt; <a =
href=3D"https://files.me.com/danielthomas4/mv532s.mp3">https://files.me.co=
m/danielthomas4/mv532s.mp3</a> <br>&gt; &lt;<a =
href=3D"https://files.me.com/danielthomas4/mv532s.mp3">https://files.me.co=
m/danielthomas4/mv532s.mp3</a>&gt; <br>
&gt; &lt;<a =
href=3D"https://files.me.com/danielthomas4/mv532s.mp3">https://files.me.co=
m/danielthomas4/mv532s.mp3</a>&gt;<br>&gt; <br>&gt; D<br>&gt; <br></p>
</blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>=

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Thanks for the props Rick and the fuzzy memories Daniel, speaking of  
Daniel Thomas , I just saw him tear it up tonight playing with Bob  
Brozman at a local benefit, playing the bejesus out of an Jazz  
manouche style guitar as Bob got down on a national steel guitar.  
Recently  He lent me a really cool mic made by DPA that I used to  
record these two vids, I'm using a hybrid sound of the DPA 4099, and a  
duncan mag mic in the sound hole of my acoustic weisenheimer lap  
steel.  the DPA is a subminiature  shotgun mic, with enough off- axis  
feedback rejection to have my studio monitors on  and multiple loops  
going, without too many  phase cancellation or feedback problems.   
Once again captured on a Q3, Hey Paul, regarding Roland, a little  
birdie told me there is something on the horizon, he used the words  
RC-58, but i don't know if he was being cryptic or coy or what,  
usually though when he says something is on the horizon,  it generally  
is.
  here are the vids, enjoy the crickets

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tke5LkiONAI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQAGnPcDxXU&feature=channel_video_title

  Bill
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the fuzzy memories Daniel, speaking of Daniel Thomas , I just saw him =
tear it up tonight playing with Bob Brozman at a local benefit, playing =
the bejesus out of an Jazz manouche style guitar as Bob got down on a =
national steel guitar. Recently &nbsp;He lent me a really cool mic made =
by DPA that I used to record these two vids, I'm using a hybrid sound of =
the DPA 4099, and a duncan mag mic in the sound hole of my acoustic =
weisenheimer lap steel. &nbsp;the DPA is a subminiature &nbsp;shotgun =
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On Aug 31, 2011, at 11:30 AM, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote:

> Take a number.
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Walker [mailto:billwalker@baymoon.com]=20
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 9:28 AM
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> Subject: Re: Old Guitar Synths (was Re: Roland gr55)
>=20
> <snip>  I definitely have a love =20
> hate relationship with Roland,=20

I've long felt that Roland tends to have near misses with respect to =
really great products.

Example: I got an SP-808 GrooveSampler and an HPD-15 HandSonic about the =
same time. They both clearly have more or less the same set of modeled =
effects. The SP-808 does a lot to let you do live manipulation of the =
effects using three knobs. The HPD-15 has three knobs, but completely =
misses that live effects manipulation might be something one might want =
to do with them.

I periodically swear off Roland equipment and then end up buying it =
anyway. I figure the Boss Noise Suppressor I just got will do what it =
does and I won't have this frustration. On the other hand, one of the =
things that holds me back from picking up a DD-20 + SL-20 combination is =
the thought that I'm going to get frustrated with something stupid =
Roland will have done somewhere.

Mark

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Mark,

On Sep 1, 2011, at 7:20 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote:

> On the other hand, one of the things that holds me back from picking =
up a DD-20 + SL-20 combination is the thought that I'm going to get =
frustrated with something stupid Roland will have done somewhere.

Can't speak about the SL-20, but the really dumb thing to me is they =
topped out the max delay/loop time on the DD-20 at 22 seconds - a number =
not easily divisible by anything but itself, 2, and 11.

If they had upped it up to 24 seconds they would have had a max loop =
time that was divisible by 2, 3, 4, 6, 8, and 12 so you could take full =
advantage of that maximum length in those 5 memory slots for very =
musical time signature synched delays.

The 3-digit LED display only does a few (not enough) decimal places to =
usefully punch in accurate divisions of time for 22 seconds - so I =
usually set the longest delay on 20, the next on 10, 5, 2.5, and 1.25. =
Or sometimes I do 21, 14, 7, 3.5, and 1.75 seconds

It's a small thing, but really dumb to have maxed out at a =
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to dial in subdivisions.

That is my cranky about Roland gear thought for the day.

:-(

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Actually, isn't the top delay length on the DD-20 23 seconds?  That's
even worse than 22.

Kevin

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sily divisible by anything but itself, 2, and 11.
>
>



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Kevin,

Yep, I think your right - a prime number, argh!!!

I guess it's been a while since I had mine out and looked at it or =
messed with it.

I've been in MaxMSP land for a while.

Sorry, my mistake.

:-(

Ted

On Sep 1, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote:

> Actually, isn't the top delay length on the DD-20 23 seconds?  That's
> even worse than 22.
>=20
> Kevin

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Yep. It's 23 seconds, but Ted's basic point is still made: it wasn't
the best choice of time.

Best,

Dennis

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On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando
<billowhead@gmail.com> wrote:
> Actually, isn't the top delay length on the DD-20 23 seconds? =A0That's
> even worse than 22.
>
> Kevin
>
>>
>> Can't speak about the SL-20, but the really dumb thing to me is they top=
ped out the max delay/loop time on the DD-20 at 22 seconds - a number not e=
asily divisible by anything but itself, 2, and 11.
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble=
.
>
> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>
> Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org
> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos
>
>

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A bit of topic maybe, but I thought some of you might be interested:

This is music I did for movies throughout the years and finally put them =
in one website:

http://www.reyn.net/soundtracks

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<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">A bit of topic maybe, but I thought some of you might be interested:<div><br></div><div>This is music I did for movies throughout the years and finally put them in one website:</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; line-height: 14px; "><a href="http://www.reyn.net/soundtracks" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" style="cursor: pointer; color: rgb(59, 89, 152); text-decoration: underline; "><span>http://www.reyn.net/soundtrack</span><wbr><span class="word_break" style="display: block; float: left; margin-left: -10px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "></span>s</a></span></div><div><br></div><div>Enjoy,</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>Reyn.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></body></html>
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On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Reyn Ouwehand <loopers-delight@reyn.net> wrote:
> A bit of topic maybe, but I thought some of you might be interested:
> This is music I did for movies throughout the years and finally put them in
> one website:
> http://www.reyn.net/soundtracks


Thanks for telling. Interesting listening :-)

Per

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You can set the longer times with 1/100s accuracy, so in fact you have
2300 hundreds of second, which is far from prime.
The time seems less odd if you think of tempos other than 120 BPM.

I guess Boss wanted a huge amount of delay time, let's say more than 16 
seconds (!),
but RAM sizes are quantized (to use a musical term), so they ended up 
with 23 sec.
They could limit the time to a 'better' number like 20. Would it be better?

DD-20 is a very good pedal and I find little to desire from a 'delay' 
point of view.
There could have been a sensible vari-speed at least for tape and analog 
modes
(which could also run in stereo, instead of summing the signal to mono).
I miss also an optional 'immediate' mode for knobs for changing 
parameters without
the need to pass through the stored setting value. And the LCD light is 
a bit annoying
as I need to turn it on every time I switch the unit on.

MichaĆ

> Kevin,
>
> Yep, I think your right - a prime number, argh!!!
>
> I guess it's been a while since I had mine out and looked at it or messed with it.
>
> I've been in MaxMSP land for a while.
>
> Sorry, my mistake.
>
> :-(
>
> Ted
>
> On Sep 1, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote:
>
>> Actually, isn't the top delay length on the DD-20 23 seconds?  That's
>> even worse than 22.
>>
>> Kevin
>

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does anyone know if there is a vst file player that plays a short file as a
loop and stretches it so that the playback speed is in sync with the master
sync (e.g. synctransport in bidule) ?

-Michael

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On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
> does anyone know if there is a vst file player that plays a short file as a
> loop and stretches it so that the playback speed is in sync with the master
> sync (e.g. synctransport in bidule) ?
>
> -Michael


I have not used Melodyne for some years now but maybe it can do that?
Spectrasonics RMX definitely does it but RMX might be a bit of
overkill? (although it is a "must have" IMHO). I guess you're looking
for VST for Windows?

Have you checked at the Bidule forum if someone has not already made a
group that does time stretching in tempo sync?

Per

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GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY:                   http://galactictravels.info
=======================================================================
Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long
Special Focus on Robert Carty.  The Featured CD at
Midnight will be "Sonic Magic" by Robert Carty on Space for Music
Records.  Details are at the Special Focus page at:
http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#sep

I will also play music by Modulator ESP who will play at the
Soundscapes Concert Series on Sunday, September 4.

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1
FM.  Listen at http://wdiy.org/listen on the internet.

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On this date, September 1st, fifteen years ago, Looper's Delight was
launched.  We didn't even have a dedicated domain name back then, and were
running around trying to learn how to use the mailing list software and put
a webpage up and get word out to people.  Somehow, it worked.

Happy, happy, joy, joy!  I hope you will all join me in raising a glass to
Kim today.  He is desperately missed, but he will always be with us in
spirit.

Onward and upward! :)

Violet
xoxox

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY LD --toasting to you Kim! thanks for this wonderful communit=
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti=
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>HAPPY BIRT=
HDAY LD --toasting to you Kim! thanks for this wonderful community of artis=
ts!</span></div><div><br></div><div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "><div style=3D"font-size: 12p=
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<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, Septem=
ber 1, 2011 1:58 PM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span=
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st, fifteen years ago, Looper's Delight was<br>launched.&nbsp; We didn't ev=
en have a
 dedicated domain name back then, and were<br>running around trying to lear=
n how to use the mailing list software and put<br>a webpage up and get word=
 out to people.&nbsp; Somehow, it worked.<br><br>Happy, happy, joy, joy!&nb=
sp; I hope you will all join me in raising a glass to<br>Kim today.&nbsp; H=
e is desperately missed, but he will always be with us in<br>spirit.<br><br=
>Onward and upward! :)<br><br>Violet<br>xoxox<br><br><br><br></div></div></=
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Hi  Vi,

And I joined it only a little more than a month later on October 6th.

Yup, I been hangin' 'round this joint a long time.

I will definitely go to the microbrewery around the corner from my house 
this evening and hiost a cool one in his honor.

Thank goodness LD is here.

I've made so many good friends on Loopers Delight that my life would 
surely be the porer if it hadn't been there.

Thanks Kim, wherever you are.

Ted

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Violet Xoxox wrote:

> On this date, September 1st, fifteen years ago, Looper's Delight was
> launched.  We didn't even have a dedicated domain name back then, and 
> were
> running around trying to learn how to use the mailing list software 
> and put
> a webpage up and get word out to people.  Somehow, it worked.
>
> Happy, happy, joy, joy!  I hope you will all join me in raising a 
> glass to
> Kim today.  He is desperately missed, but he will always be with us in
> spirit.
>
> Onward and upward! :)
>
> Violet
> xoxox

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Hi sorry for OT-ness...
I have 2 days to write a bit of music for a client and it needs a 303
line... its a bit of a Portal 2 parody... Now for that I normally would use
my Roland EF303, it has an excellent patch for that.. but I have a small
prblem with it that I cant fix before the weekend..(Plus its hardware so..
more problems synching and midi in/out shit)

I need a low cpu 303 clone plugin, Ive spent an hour trying to make one in
the Logic synth (Where Im making the track) and failing.. I might be able to
do it in Reason, but then there a messy synching problem, that I just dont
have time to set up...

SUREY Theres a clone AU?

Did I say it needs to be free?.. or seriously cheap?

yelp...

M

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Hi sorry for OT-ness...<br>I have 2 days to write a bit of music for a clie=
nt and it needs a 303 line... its a bit of a Portal 2 parody... Now for tha=
t I normally would use my Roland EF303, it has an excellent patch for that.=
. but I have a small prblem with it that I cant fix before the weekend..(Pl=
us its hardware so.. more problems synching and midi in/out shit)<br>

<br>I need a low cpu 303 clone plugin, Ive spent an hour trying to make one=
 in the Logic synth (Where Im making the track) and failing.. I might be ab=
le to do it in Reason, but then there a messy synching problem, that I just=
 dont have time to set up...<br>

<br>SUREY Theres a clone AU?<br><br>Did I say it needs to be free?.. or ser=
iously cheap?<br clear=3D"all"><br>yelp...<br><br>M<br><br>-- <br><i style=
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Um.. I made something once, it a Windows VST, so I cant use it any more..
its called Nosinkloop, and it started out as 4 file loopers that did NOT
synch with the host, but then I made that an option, so the name is rather
pointless..

I have no idea if it works anymore, and I only used it in AudioMulch.. but
there it worked great.. but Im no programmer, it was made in SynthEdit..
give it a go...?

http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?page_id=375

 Scroll down to about half way...


Mark







On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:

> does anyone know if there is a vst file player that plays a short file as a
> loop and stretches it so that the playback speed is in sync with the master
> sync (e.g. synctransport in bidule) ?
>
> -Michael
>
>


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Um.. I made something once, it a Windows VST, so I cant use it any more.. i=
ts called Nosinkloop, and it started out as 4 file loopers that did NOT syn=
ch with the host, but then I made that an option, so the name is rather poi=
ntless..<br>

<br>I have no idea if it works anymore, and I only used it in AudioMulch.. =
but there it worked great.. but Im no programmer, it was made in SynthEdit.=
. give it a go...?<br><br><a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress=
/?page_id=3D375">http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?page_id=3D375</a><=
br>

<br>=A0Scroll down to about half way...<br><br><br>Mark<br><br><br><br><br>=
<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Mich=
ael Peters <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mp@mpeters.de">mp@mpeter=
s.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">does anyone know if there is a vst file pla=
yer that plays a short file as a<br>
loop and stretches it so that the playback speed is in sync with the master=
<br>
sync (e.g. synctransport in bidule) ?<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
-Michael<br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><i style=3D"font=
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On Sep 1, 2011, at 3:29 PM, mark francombe wrote:

> a low cpu 303 clone plugin, Ive spent an hour trying to make one in  
> the Logic synth (Where Im making the track) and failing.



Did you try using Ultrabeat?





BobC


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http://www.youtube.com/user/tynego
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Hi Mark,


Tau! Check the demo clip here:
http://bedroomproducersblog.com/2011/05/25/muon-software-set-to-re-release-tau-bassline-vst-on-may-27th/

Here is Muon Software - where to get Tau:
http://www.muon-software.com/

I think a decent 303 can be mocked up in Logic by playing the ES2
through the FuzzWha. A 303 sound is about Resonance, Dist and Glide
(portamento). If you need a harder touch you may also run it through
the Amp Designer, the Octane Rack and that other metal amp sim. To
hack it up - like the Portal 2 - you can throw in a Tremolo plugin
after the whole shebang and automate it to slice squarish sixteenths,
thirty seconds or whatever.

A third-party synth I like a lot, for its powerful filters that can
scream in self oscillation just like the real thing is Arturia's Mood
Modular 2. Bought it long ago back at the first release and it has
helped many time when I need some analog sounding filtering.

I usually put a bit of harmonic overtone distortion after any such
processing (the trick also referred to as "Exiter", "Audio Enhancing"
or "Maximizing"). Logic's Exiter plugin does this but not very good.
So instead I use SoundToys' Decapitator. Always. It adds bite and
clarity, something which often is a difficult challenge in the
software studio.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub



On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:29 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> Hi sorry for OT-ness...
> I have 2 days to write a bit of music for a client and it needs a 303
> line... its a bit of a Portal 2 parody... Now for that I normally would use
> my Roland EF303, it has an excellent patch for that.. but I have a small
> prblem with it that I cant fix before the weekend..(Plus its hardware so..
> more problems synching and midi in/out shit)
>
> I need a low cpu 303 clone plugin, Ive spent an hour trying to make one in
> the Logic synth (Where Im making the track) and failing.. I might be able to
> do it in Reason, but then there a messy synching problem, that I just dont
> have time to set up...
>
> SUREY Theres a clone AU?
>
> Did I say it needs to be free?.. or seriously cheap?
>
> yelp...

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Hi Mark,

Logic has a 303 emulation ..!

It's called the "ES M" and it has loads of 303 presets to get you started...

-Chuck

>Hi sorry for OT-ness...
>I have 2 days to write a bit of music for a client and it needs a 
>303 line... its a bit of a Portal 2 parody... Now for that I 
>normally would use my Roland EF303, it has an excellent patch for 
>that.. but I have a small prblem with it that I cant fix before the 
>weekend..(Plus its hardware so.. more problems synching and midi 
>in/out shit)
>
>I need a low cpu 303 clone plugin, Ive spent an hour trying to make 
>one in the Logic synth (Where Im making the track) and failing.. I 
>might be able to do it in Reason, but then there a messy synching 
>problem, that I just dont have time to set up...
>
>SUREY Theres a clone AU?
>
>Did I say it needs to be free?.. or seriously cheap?
>
>yelp...
>
>M
>
>--
>Mark Francombe
><http://www.markfrancombe.com/>www.markfrancombe.com
><http://www.ordoabkhao.com/>www.ordoabkhao.com
><http://vimeo.com/user825094>http://vimeo.com/user825094
><http://www.looop.no/>http://www.looop.no
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<div>Hi Mark,</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Logic has a 303 emulation ..!</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>It's called the &quot;ES M&quot; and it has loads of 303 presets
to get you started...</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>-Chuck</div>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>Hi sorry for OT-ness...<br>
I have 2 days to write a bit of music for a client and it needs a 303
line... its a bit of a Portal 2 parody... Now for that I normally
would use my Roland EF303, it has an excellent patch for that.. but I
have a small prblem with it that I cant fix before the weekend..(Plus
its hardware so.. more problems synching and midi in/out shit)<br>
<br>
I need a low cpu 303 clone plugin, Ive spent an hour trying to make
one in the Logic synth (Where Im making the track) and failing.. I
might be able to do it in Reason, but then there a messy synching
problem, that I just dont have time to set up...<br>
<br>
SUREY Theres a clone AU?<br>
<br>
Did I say it needs to be free?.. or seriously cheap?<br>
<br>
yelp...<br>
<br>
M<br>
<br>
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On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
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"Tau Bassline" is the full name of the plugin.

Per

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> 303

This other demo track shows off a quite impressing 303 parroting:
http://www.muon-software.com/downloads/TauBasslineMkII.mp3

This TauBAssline is closer to the original than you will be able to
mock up with the Logic plugins. If that is what you're looking for.

Per

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> Logic has a 303 emulation ..!


What the...??

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tau!

"Tau Bassline" is the full name of the plugin.

Checkin...


Thanks for all of that, Im very versed on what makes a real 303, Ive been
into them from the start.. but the Logic Software I need to explore...
mstely Im just using classical presets,... gotta check those synthz.. but
they just so scary lookin=B4.. Im scared away by the lack of normal knobs..=
. I
will dive in...

Thx guys... solutions in less than 7 minutes.. better than calling the phon=
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company...

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On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:16 AM, Charles Zwicky <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:cazwicky@earthlink.net">cazwicky@earthlink.net</a>&gt;</span> w=
rote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">

Logic has a 303 emulation ..!</blockquote><div><br>What the...?? <br></div>=
</div><br>On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Per Boysen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
perboysen@gmail.com">perboysen@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Tau!<br>
<br>
&quot;Tau Bassline&quot; is the full name of the plugin.<br><br>Checkin...<=
br><br><br>Thanks for all of that, Im very versed on what makes a real 303,=
 Ive been into them from the start.. but the Logic Software I need to explo=
re... mstely Im just using classical presets,... gotta check those synthz..=
 but they just so scary lookin=B4.. Im scared away by the lack of normal kn=
obs... I will dive in... <br>

<br>Thx guys... solutions in less than 7 minutes.. better than calling the =
phone company...<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><i style=3D"font-family:verdan=
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On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:24 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> "Tau Bassline" is the full name of the plugin.
>
> Checkin...
>

These guys say that Audiorealism Bassline is better than Tau (although
they put Tau as no 2)
http://www.spacenoah.com/musicsoftware/bestfreetb303plugin.htm


>
> Thanks for all of that, Im very versed on what makes a real 303, Ive been
> into them from the start.. but the Logic Software I need to explore...
> mstely Im just using classical presets,..

ouch... some good but a lot of cheezy stuff there. You really need to
run synth plugins through dist or guitar amp sim plugins to get the
good ole punch-up ;-)

Per

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mark,

  I've used both the Tau Bassline and the Logic=20
synth "ES M"   they can both get you what you=20
need...

The "ES M" has a telltale silver graphic and very=20
few controls...   be not afraid!

-Chuck

At 01:24 +0200 2/9/11, mark francombe wrote:
>On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:16 AM, Charles Zwicky=20
><<mailto:cazwicky@earthlink.net>cazwicky@earthlink.net>=20
>wrote:
>
>Logic has a 303 emulation ..!
>
>
>What the...??
>
>
>On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Per Boysen=20
><<mailto:perboysen@gmail.com>perboysen@gmail.com>=20
>wrote:
>>  Tau!
>
>"Tau Bassline" is the full name of the plugin.
>
>Checkin...
>
>
>Thanks for all of that, Im very versed on what=20
>makes a real 303, Ive been into them from the=20
>start.. but the Logic Software I need to=20
>explore... mstely Im just using classical=20
>presets,... gotta check those synthz.. but they=20
>just so scary lookin=B4.. Im scared away by the=20
>lack of normal knobs... I will dive in...
>
>Thx guys... solutions in less than 7 minutes..=20
>better than calling the phone company...
>
>--
>Mark Francombe
><http://www.markfrancombe.com/>www.markfrancombe.com
><http://www.ordoabkhao.com/>www.ordoabkhao.com
><http://vimeo.com/user825094>http://vimeo.com/user825094
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>twitter @markfrancombe


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<div>mark,</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>&nbsp;I've used both the Tau Bassline and the Logic synth
&quot;ES M&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp; they can both get you what you
need...</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>The &quot;ES M&quot; has a telltale silver graphic and very few
controls...&nbsp;&nbsp; be not afraid!</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>-Chuck</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>At 01:24 +0200 2/9/11, mark francombe wrote:</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite" cite>On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:16 AM, Charles
Zwicky &lt;<a
href=3D"mailto:cazwicky@earthlink.net">cazwicky@earthlink.net</a>&gt;
wrote:<br>
<blockquote>Logic has a 303 emulation ..!<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite" cite><br>
What the...??<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite" cite><br>
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Per Boysen &lt;<a
href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboysen@gmail.com</a>&gt;
wrote:<br>
&gt; Tau!<br>
<br>
&quot;Tau Bassline&quot; is the full name of the plugin.<br>
<br>
Checkin...<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks for all of that, Im very versed on what makes a real 303, Ive
been into them from the start.. but the Logic Software I need to
explore... mstely Im just using classical presets,... gotta check
those synthz.. but they just so scary lookin=B4.. Im scared away by
the lack of normal knobs... I will dive in...<br>
<br>
Thx guys... solutions in less than 7 minutes.. better than calling the
phone company...<br>
<br>
--<br>
<font size=3D"+1"><u><i>Mark Francombe</i></u></font><br>
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HA, running Tau and the ESM together... nice.. thx guys... bedtime.. just
wait til the wife goes out in the morn... ITS RAVE TIME!



On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:33 AM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net>wrot=
e:

> **
>
> mark,
>
>  I've used both the Tau Bassline and the Logic synth "ES M"   they can bo=
th
> get you what you need...
>
> The "ES M" has a telltale silver graphic and very few controls...   be no=
t
> afraid!
>
> -Chuck
>
> At 01:24 +0200 2/9/11, mark francombe wrote:
>
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:16 AM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
> Logic has a 303 emulation ..!
>
>
> What the...??
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Tau!
>
> "Tau Bassline" is the full name of the plugin.
>
> Checkin...
>
>
> Thanks for all of that, Im very versed on what makes a real 303, Ive been
> into them from the start.. but the Logic Software I need to explore...
> mstely Im just using classical presets,... gotta check those synthz.. but
> they just so scary lookin=B4.. Im scared away by the lack of normal knobs=
... I
> will dive in...
>
> Thx guys... solutions in less than 7 minutes.. better than calling the
> phone company...
>
> --
> *Mark Francombe*
> www.markfrancombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no
> twitter @markfrancombe
>
>
>
> **
>
> --
>
> **
>
> ...
> http://www.zmix.net
>
> http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky
>
> http://albumcredits.com/zmix
>



--=20
*Mark Francombe*
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe

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HA, running Tau and the ESM together... nice.. thx guys... bedtime.. just w=
ait til the wife goes out in the morn... ITS RAVE TIME!<br><br><br><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:33 AM, Charles Zwicky <span=
 dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cazwicky@earthlink.net">cazwicky@earthli=
nk.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><u></u>
<div>
<div><br></div>
<div>mark,</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>=A0I&#39;ve used both the Tau Bassline and the Logic synth
&quot;ES M&quot;=A0=A0 they can both get you what you
need...</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>The &quot;ES M&quot; has a telltale silver graphic and very few
controls...=A0=A0 be not afraid!</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>-Chuck</div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">
<div><br></div>
<div>At 01:24 +0200 2/9/11, mark francombe wrote:</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:16 AM, Charles
Zwicky &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cazwicky@earthlink.net" target=3D"_blank">cazw=
icky@earthlink.net</a>&gt;
wrote:<br>
<blockquote>Logic has a 303 emulation ..!<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><br>
What the...??<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><br>
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Per Boysen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@=
gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">perboysen@gmail.com</a>&gt;
wrote:<br>
&gt; Tau!<br>
<br>
&quot;Tau Bassline&quot; is the full name of the plugin.<br>
<br>
Checkin...<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks for all of that, Im very versed on what makes a real 303, Ive
been into them from the start.. but the Logic Software I need to
explore... mstely Im just using classical presets,... gotta check
those synthz.. but they just so scary lookin=B4.. Im scared away by
the lack of normal knobs... I will dive in...<br>
<br>
Thx guys... solutions in less than 7 minutes.. better than calling the
phone company...<br>
<br>
--<br>
<font size=3D"+1"><u><i>Mark Francombe</i></u></font><br>
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r>
<br>
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<br>
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its.com/zmix</a></div>
</div></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><i style=3D"font-family=
:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(255, 255, 255);background-color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"=
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ncombe</u></font></i><br>

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Happy 15th Anniversary,  Loopers Delight!!!!!

I'm so grateful for you continued existence.

This website and this community irrevocably changed the shape of my 
artistic life.
Almost everything I've done in the last 12 years has been fairly 
directly influenced by the community
and the ideas that I've garnered from it's existence.  It's enabled me 
to perform in 15 different countries
and radically expanded the scope of my own music because of the amazing 
musicians I've been blessed
to hear and to perform with.     I was always a side man,  
professionally speaking before it and it's
existence and the technologies that it represented (and presented) 
indirectly gave me the courage to become a solo artist

I joined in the early years (and can't remember when) but I remember it 
very distinctly because
it was , literally,  the day this complete and utter computer neophyte 
got e-mail running for the first
time on a terrible out of date Mac computer.

I was so turned on by the fact that people from all over the world could 
communicate with each other on
a forum (I really did come to this stuff later than most) and that all 
their communications came to
my email inbox.  I was also overwhelmed by my lack of knowledge about 
the internet and computers.

Unfortunately,  I was so overwhelmed by the dozens of emails that hit my 
inbox in the first few days that I
fairly quickly unsubscribed before I had learned how to get the daily 
digest or , god forbid, use a filtering
system in my email (which everyone tells me to do and which I still 
haven't done).  I didn't rejoin for a while
later.

In late 2002 or early 2003  I wrote the list asking if anyone would 
consider doing a mini-festival in their
town in Europe or the UK because I had one seed gig in Italy (that was 
later cancelled) and was coming to
tour.      In two weeks  I had a 2 month tour booked..............this 
BLEW MY MIND!!!!!!!!

So,  yes,  all hats off to Kim's vision and dedication to this 
community.........to Violet for continuing it.........to
Matthias Grob for his continual attempts to promote and innovate for 
this community (it should be known
that Matthias' invention of the Paradis Loop Delay and his involvement 
with Gibson and Kim that catalyzed all
of this in the first place which is not to take anything away from Kim's 
vision to create it) and for the
amazing group of people that I've met here online and through the
huge amount of looping festivals that we've all been able to play at one 
time or another.

Loop on!     I say a toast of gratitude to Loopers Delight.

love,   Rick Walker




>

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Happy Birthday LD
  a wealth of knowledge philosophy and friendship.
Thanks Kim for making it all happen and Violet for carrying the torch.  
Hope to see you in October.
  Bill

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Is there a place where the information resides to discover when
we originally decided to sign up here at Loopers Delight?

I was reminiscing when I read of it's birthday and my memory is not very 
good
for dates.

I'm just curious.

Rick Walker

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youhou!

have a read in the archives!
its such a mystical moment when such a big story starts
what to say first?
then we had to define what looper means
and whether its a religion or not
some really deep insights
Andre LaFosse (as: The Man Himself) was great in wording and expanding =
concepts
and Kim was great in explaining the EDP functions and his anarchistic =
view of a mailing list

here is a collection of the best stuff of the first two years:
http://loopers-delight.com/musings/posts/index.html

thank you for reminding us and helping all those years, Violet!
Matthias=

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Though I have only been around this community since 2006 I have gained a lo=
t
from it, including friendships with many of you for which I'm grateful.
 Coming to know the fall Y2K festival was frosting on the cake as I for man=
y
years wanted opportunity to have the chance to perform in northern CA.
 Though I didn't have the opportunity to meet Kim in these later years it's
been clear of his handiwork in the path that this community has trod.
 Experiencing the heartbreak in the community of his untimely departure fro=
m
this world showed how much love and support had been born out of
Loopers-Delight.  I raise a glass of virtual cheer in Kim's honor, to
Violet, to Loopers-Delight and to all of you.

Jim

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Matthias Grob <matilists@gmail.com> wrote:

> youhou!
>
> have a read in the archives!
> its such a mystical moment when such a big story starts
> what to say first?
> then we had to define what looper means
> and whether its a religion or not
> some really deep insights
> Andre LaFosse (as: The Man Himself) was great in wording and expanding
> concepts
> and Kim was great in explaining the EDP functions and his anarchistic vie=
w
> of a mailing list
>
> here is a collection of the best stuff of the first two years:
> http://loopers-delight.com/musings/posts/index.html
>
> thank you for reminding us and helping all those years, Violet!
> Matthias
>



--=20
*From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin =
&
Peter Th=F6rn.  Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.
jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com

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Though I have only been around this community since 2006 I have gained a lo=
t from it, including friendships with many of you for which I&#39;m gratefu=
l. =A0Coming to know the fall Y2K festival was frosting on the cake as I fo=
r many years wanted opportunity to have the chance to perform in northern C=
A. =A0Though I didn&#39;t have the opportunity to meet Kim in these later y=
ears it&#39;s been clear of his handiwork in the path that this community h=
as trod. =A0Experiencing the heartbreak in the community of his untimely de=
parture from this world showed how much love and support had been born out =
of Loopers-Delight. =A0I raise a glass of virtual cheer in Kim&#39;s honor,=
 to Violet, to Loopers-Delight and to all of you.<div>
<br></div><div>Jim<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at=
 10:09 PM, Matthias Grob <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:matilists@=
gmail.com">matilists@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex;">
youhou!<br>
<br>
have a read in the archives!<br>
its such a mystical moment when such a big story starts<br>
what to say first?<br>
then we had to define what looper means<br>
and whether its a religion or not<br>
some really deep insights<br>
Andre LaFosse (as: The Man Himself) was great in wording and expanding conc=
epts<br>
and Kim was great in explaining the EDP functions and his anarchistic view =
of a mailing list<br>
<br>
here is a collection of the best stuff of the first two years:<br>
<a href=3D"http://loopers-delight.com/musings/posts/index.html" target=3D"_=
blank">http://loopers-delight.com/musings/posts/index.html</a><br>
<br>
thank you for reminding us and helping all those years, Violet!<br>
<font color=3D"#888888">Matthias<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><i>Fr=
om Brooklyn To Glindran</i>, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin =
&amp; Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds<br>from the sale of this CD will benefit J=
DRF International.=A0 <a href=3D"http://jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com" t=
arget=3D"_blank">jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com</a>.<br>
<br><a href=3D"http://woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com" target=3D"_blank">woo=
dandwiremusic.wordpress.com</a><br>
</div>

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Happy B-Day LD and a BIG THANX to Kim and Violet!  (and also, thanx  
to a good number of some other excellent folks on the list, as well)

One of THE BEST lists I have ever joined!  I may have joined just a  
small few years ago, but it is STILL one of the BEST!
I hope in some small way(s), I've contributed some good things to the  
list, too. My pleasure and DUTY to do so! :-)

I still PROUDLY wear my LD t-shirt with Kim's wonderful visage as  
often as I can. Thanx again to whoever(?) it was that did that GREAT  
printing job!
I've been involved in the silk screening biz off and on for many  
years and that printing is excellent!

Towards the Alien...

Rev. Fever
Portland,OR
http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever

On Sep 1, 2011, at 1:58 PM, Violet Xoxox wrote:

> On this date, September 1st, fifteen years ago, Looper's Delight was
> launched.  We didn't even have a dedicated domain name back then,  
> and were
> running around trying to learn how to use the mailing list software  
> and put
> a webpage up and get word out to people.  Somehow, it worked.
>
> Happy, happy, joy, joy!  I hope you will all join me in raising a  
> glass to
> Kim today.  He is desperately missed, but he will always be with us in
> spirit.
>
> Onward and upward! :)
>
> Violet
> xoxox
>

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Diggin'  it
  Bill

A bit of topic maybe, but I thought some of you might be interested:

This is music I did for movies throughout the years and finally put  
them in one website:

http://www.reyn.net/soundtracks

Enjoy,

Cheers,

Reyn.


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sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
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rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"cursor: pointer; color: =
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@Per yes, for Windows :) & I haven't asked on the Bidule forum yet
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> This website and this community irrevocably changed the shape of my
artistic life

the same for me ... thanks everybody, and special thanks to some of you

-Michael

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I remember my absolute shock when I discovered there were other people in t=
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one).And I'm still surprised at the breadth of knowledge that a community o=
f people with this interest in common have.My thanks to you all and especia=
lly Violet for keeping it all going.
Cheers! =20

Gareth

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i'm join this with you all, many tanks to who has worked for LD!
and i rise a glass to Kim!

Massimo Liverani 

>----Messaggio originale----
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>Data: 01/09/2011 22.58
>A: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>Ogg: Happy 15th, Looper&#39;s Delight!
>
>On this date, September 1st, fifteen years ago, Looper's Delight was
>launched.  We didn't even have a dedicated domain name back then, and were
>running around trying to learn how to use the mailing list software and put
>a webpage up and get word out to people.  Somehow, it worked.
>
>Happy, happy, joy, joy!  I hope you will all join me in raising a glass to
>Kim today.  He is desperately missed, but he will always be with us in
>spirit.
>
>Onward and upward! :)
>
>Violet
>xoxox
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On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 2:54 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
This website and this community irrevocably changed the shape of my
artistic life.

i'm with rick and michael on this. the internet has changed our lives
in ways we couldn't have imagined, some better and some worse, but
this simple little mailing list, which seems so anachronistic in this
day and age, has done more to influence my musical growth and
direction than almost anything else i can think of. it's connected me
with so many amazing, generous and knowledgeable people, that
expressing my gratitude here, in text form, as an email, hardly seems
adequate....
thanks to all of you and especially kim for his vision and violet for
her strength.

sim

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Thanks Bill! :-)

On Sep 2, 2011, at 6:01 AM, William Walker wrote:

> Diggin'  it
>  Bill
>=20
> A bit of topic maybe, but I thought some of you might be interested:
>=20
> This is music I did for movies throughout the years and finally put =
them in one website:
>=20
> http://www.reyn.net/soundtracks
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> Enjoy,
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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
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"><div>Thanks Bill! :-)</div><br><div><div>On Sep 2, 2011, at 6:01 AM, =
William Walker wrote:</div><br =
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style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Diggin' =
&nbsp;it<div>&nbsp;Bill</div><div><br></div><div><span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif; =
font-size: 13px; "><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#8400eb">A =
bit of topic maybe, but I thought some of you might be =
interested:</font></span><div style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif; =
font-size: 13px; "><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
color=3D"#8400eb"><br></font></div><div style=3D"font-family: arial, =
sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
color=3D"#8400eb">This is music I did for movies throughout the years =
and finally put them in one website:</font></div><div =
style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; =
"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
13px; "><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: 'lucida =
grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; =
line-height: 14px; "><a href=3D"http://www.reyn.net/soundtracks" =
rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"cursor: pointer; color: =
rgb(59, 89, 152); text-decoration: underline; =
"><span>http://www.reyn.net/soundtrack</span><wbr><span =
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I loop your words, Simeon !
>From when I subscribed in 2004 it hasn't been the same for me also.
Many thanks to Violet for having LD alive and kicking !

-fabio
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2011/9/2 Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com>

> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 2:54 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
> This website and this community irrevocably changed the shape of my
> artistic life.
>
> i'm with rick and michael on this. the internet has changed our lives
> in ways we couldn't have imagined, some better and some worse, but
> this simple little mailing list, which seems so anachronistic in this
> day and age, has done more to influence my musical growth and
> direction than almost anything else i can think of. it's connected me
> with so many amazing, generous and knowledgeable people, that
> expressing my gratitude here, in text form, as an email, hardly seems
> adequate....
> thanks to all of you and especially kim for his vision and violet for
> her strength.
>
> sim
>
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<div>I loop your words, Simeon !</div>
<div>From when I subscribed in 2004 it hasn&#39;t been the same for me also=
.</div>
<div>Many thanks to Violet for having LD alive and kicking !</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>-fabio</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.eterogeneo.com/">www.eterogeneo.com</a><br><br><=
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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/9/2 Simeon Harris <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
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<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
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<div class=3D"im">On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 2:54 AM, Rick Walker &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:looppool@cruzio.com">looppool@cruzio.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>This =
website and this community irrevocably changed the shape of my<br>artistic =
life.<br>
<br></div>i&#39;m with rick and michael on this. the internet has changed o=
ur lives<br>in ways we couldn&#39;t have imagined, some better and some wor=
se, but<br>this simple little mailing list, which seems so anachronistic in=
 this<br>
day and age, has done more to influence my musical growth and<br>direction =
than almost anything else i can think of. it&#39;s connected me<br>with so =
many amazing, generous and knowledgeable people, that<br>expressing my grat=
itude here, in text form, as an email, hardly seems<br>
adequate....<br>thanks to all of you and especially kim for his vision and =
violet for<br>her strength.<br><br>sim<br><br></blockquote></div><br>

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I'm "Replying to all" for every loopers delight email I get until someone c=
an tell me how to stop receiving an email for every post on the site.=A0 I'=
ve sent email requests to LD and there has been no response.=A0 So my only =
recourse now is to fill everyone else's inbox the way mine is being filled =
until someone can help me.=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFr=
om: Reyn Ouwehand <loopers-delight@reyn.net>=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-=
delight.com=0ASent: Friday, September 2, 2011 6:10 AM=0ASubject: Re: Soundt=
racks=0A=0A=0AThanks Bill! :-)=0A=0AOn Sep 2, 2011, at 6:01 AM, William Wal=
ker wrote:=0A=0ADiggin' =A0it=0A>=A0Bill=0A>=0A>=0A>A bit of topic maybe, b=
ut I thought some of you might be interested:=0A>=0A>=0A>This is music I di=
d for movies throughout the years and finally put them in one website:=0A>=
=0A>=0A>http://www.reyn.net/soundtracks=0A>=0A>=0A>Enjoy,=0A>=0A>=0A>Cheers=
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti=
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>I'm "Reply=
ing to all" for every loopers delight email I get until someone can tell me=
 how to stop receiving an email for every post on the site.&nbsp; I've sent=
 email requests to LD and there has been no response.&nbsp; So my only reco=
urse now is to fill everyone else's inbox the way mine is being filled unti=
l someone can help me.</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><br></d=
iv><div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font=
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serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><hr size=3D"1"><b>=
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Reyn Ouwehand &lt;looper=
s-delight@reyn.net&gt;<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span><=
/b> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight:
 bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, September 2, 2011 6:10 AM<br><b><span styl=
e=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Soundtracks<br></font><br>=
<div id=3D"yiv1444631359"><div>Thanks Bill! :-)</div><br><div><div>On Sep 2=
, 2011, at 6:01 AM, William Walker wrote:</div><br class=3D"yiv1444631359Ap=
ple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"word-wrap:=
break-word;">Diggin' &nbsp;it<div>&nbsp;Bill</div><div><br></div><div><span=
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erif;font-size:13px;"><font class=3D"yiv1444631359Apple-style-span" color=
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ested:</font></span><div style=3D"font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:1=
3px;"><font class=3D"yiv1444631359Apple-style-span" color=3D"#8400eb"><br><=
/font></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><f=
ont class=3D"yiv1444631359Apple-style-span" color=3D"#8400eb">This is music=
 I did for movies
 throughout the years and finally put them in one website:</font></div><div=
 style=3D"font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><br></div><div sty=
le=3D"font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><span class=3D"yiv1444=
631359Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family:tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-s=
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rack</span><span class=3D"yiv1444631359word_break" style=3D"display:block;f=
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I'm "Replying to all" for every loopers delight email I get until someone c=
an tell me how to stop receiving an email for every post on the site.=A0 I'=
ve sent email requests to LD and there has been no response.=A0 So my only =
recourse now is to fill everyone else's inbox the way mine is being filled =
until someone can help me.=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom:=
 Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com>=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com=0ASent: Friday, September 2, 2011 4:31 AM=0ASubject: Re: Happ=
y 15th, Looper's Delight!=0A=0AOn Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 2:54 AM, Rick Walker =
<looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:=0AThis website and this community irrevocably =
changed the shape of my=0Aartistic life.=0A=0Ai'm with rick and michael on =
this. the internet has changed our lives=0Ain ways we couldn't have imagine=
d, some better and some worse, but=0Athis simple little mailing list, which=
 seems so anachronistic in this=0Aday and age, has done more to influence m=
y musical growth and=0Adirection than almost anything else i can think of. =
it's connected me=0Awith so many amazing, generous and knowledgeable people=
, that=0Aexpressing my gratitude here, in text form, as an email, hardly se=
ems=0Aadequate....=0Athanks to all of you and especially kim for his vision=
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti=
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><span>I'm "Replying t=
o all" for every loopers delight email I get until someone can tell me how =
to stop receiving an email for every post on the site.&nbsp; I've sent emai=
l requests to LD and there has been no response.&nbsp; So my only recourse =
now is to fill everyone else's inbox the way mine is being filled until som=
eone can help me.</span><div><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: times new=
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</span></b> Simeon Harris &lt;simeonharris40@googlemail.com&gt;<br><b><span=
 style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Loopers-Delight@loopers-deligh=
t.com<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, Sep=
tember 2,
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to:looppool@cruzio.com">looppool@cruzio.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>This website =
and this community irrevocably changed the shape of my<br>artistic life.<br=
><br>i'm with rick and michael on this. the internet has changed our lives<=
br>in ways we couldn't have imagined, some better and some worse, but<br>th=
is simple little mailing list, which seems so anachronistic in this<br>day =
and age, has done more to influence my musical growth and<br>direction than=
 almost anything else i can think of. it's connected me<br>with so many ama=
zing, generous and knowledgeable people, that<br>expressing my gratitude he=
re, in text form, as an email, hardly seems<br>adequate....<br>thanks to al=
l of you and especially kim for his vision and violet for<br>her
 strength.<br><br>sim<br><br><br><br></div></div></div></body></html>
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I'm "Replying to all" for every loopers delight email I get until someone c=
an tell me how to stop receiving an email for every post on the site.=A0 I'=
ve sent email requests to LD and there has been no response.=A0 So my only =
recourse now is to fill everyone else's inbox the way mine is being filled =
until someone can help me.=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom:=
 Massimo Liverani <mas.liv@libero.it>=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight=
.com=0ASent: Friday, September 2, 2011 3:43 AM=0ASubject: R: Happy 15th, Lo=
oper's Delight!=0A=0Ai'm join this with you all, many tanks to who has work=
ed for LD!=0Aand i rise a glass to Kim!=0A=0AMassimo Liverani =0A=0A>----Me=
ssaggio originale----=0A>Da: violet@missviolet.com=0A>Data: 01/09/2011 22.5=
8=0A>A: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>=0A>Ogg: Happy 15th, Looper's =
Delight!=0A>=0A>On this date, September 1st, fifteen years ago, Looper's De=
light was=0A>launched.=A0 We didn't even have a dedicated domain name back =
then, and were=0A>running around trying to learn how to use the mailing lis=
t software and put=0A>a webpage up and get word out to people.=A0 Somehow, =
it worked.=0A>=0A>Happy, happy, joy, joy!=A0 I hope you will all join me in=
 raising a glass to=0A>Kim today.=A0 He is desperately missed, but he will =
always be with us in=0A>spirit.=0A>=0A>Onward and upward! :)=0A>=0A>Violet=
=0A>xoxox=0A>=0A>
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti=
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><span>I'm "Replying t=
o all" for every loopers delight email I get until someone can tell me how =
to stop receiving an email for every post on the site.&nbsp; I've sent emai=
l requests to LD and there has been no response.&nbsp; So my only recourse =
now is to fill everyone else's inbox the way mine is being filled until som=
eone can help me.</span><div><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: times new=
 roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style=3D"font-family=
: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face=3D"=
Arial" size=3D"2"><hr size=3D"1"><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:=
</span></b> Massimo Liverani &lt;mas.liv@libero.it&gt;<br><b><span style=3D=
"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>=
<b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, September 2,=
 2011 3:43
 AM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> R: Happy 1=
5th, Looper's Delight!<br></font><br>i'm join this with you all, many tanks=
 to who has worked for LD!<br>and i rise a glass to Kim!<br><br>Massimo Liv=
erani <br><br>&gt;----Messaggio originale----<br>&gt;Da: <a ymailto=3D"mail=
to:violet@missviolet.com" href=3D"mailto:violet@missviolet.com">violet@miss=
violet.com</a><br>&gt;Data: 01/09/2011 22.58<br>&gt;A: &lt;<a ymailto=3D"ma=
ilto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@lo=
opers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>&gt;<br>&gt;Ogg: =
Happy 15th, Looper's Delight!<br>&gt;<br>&gt;On this date, September 1st, f=
ifteen years ago, Looper's Delight was<br>&gt;launched.&nbsp; We didn't eve=
n have a dedicated domain name back then, and were<br>&gt;running around tr=
ying to learn how to use the mailing list software and put<br>&gt;a webpage=
 up and get word out to people.&nbsp; Somehow, it
 worked.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Happy, happy, joy, joy!&nbsp; I hope you will all j=
oin me in raising a glass to<br>&gt;Kim today.&nbsp; He is desperately miss=
ed, but he will always be with us in<br>&gt;spirit.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Onward a=
nd upward! :)<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Violet<br>&gt;xoxox<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br><br><br=
><br><br></div></div></div></body></html>
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I'm "Replying to all" for every loopers delight email I get until someone c=
an tell me how to stop receiving an email for every post on the site.=A0 I'=
ve sent email requests to LD and there has been no response.=A0 So my only =
recourse now is to fill everyone else's inbox the way mine is being filled =
until someone can help me.=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom:=
 Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk>=0ATo: loopers-delight@loopers-d=
elight.com=0ASent: Friday, September 2, 2011 2:55 AM=0ASubject: RE: Happy 1=
5th, Looper's Delight!=0A=0A=0A =0AI remember my absolute shock when I disc=
overed there were other people in the world using "sound on sound" to make =
music, (I thought I was the only one).=0AAnd I'm still surprised at the bre=
adth of knowledge that a community of people with this interest in common h=
ave.=0AMy thanks to you all and especially Violet for keeping it all going.=
=0A=0ACheers! =A0=0A=0AGareth=0A=0A=0A> From: mp@mpeters.de=0A> To: Loopers=
-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Subject: RE: Happy 15th, Looper's Delight!=
=0A> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 07:19:17 +0200=0A> =0A> > This website and this =
community irrevocably changed the shape of my=0A> artistic life=0A> =0A> th=
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=0A> -Michael=0A> 
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti=
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><span>I'm "Replying t=
o all" for every loopers delight email I get until someone can tell me how =
to stop receiving an email for every post on the site.&nbsp; I've sent emai=
l requests to LD and there has been no response.&nbsp; So my only recourse =
now is to fill everyone else's inbox the way mine is being filled until som=
eone can help me.</span><div><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: times new=
 roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style=3D"font-family=
: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face=3D"=
Arial" size=3D"2"><hr size=3D"1"><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:=
</span></b> Gareth Whittock &lt;buddhamachine@live.co.uk&gt;<br><b><span st=
yle=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> loopers-delight@loopers-delight.c=
om<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, Septem=
ber 2, 2011
 2:55 AM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> RE: H=
appy 15th, Looper's Delight!<br></font><br><div id=3D"yiv151874071">=0A=0A<=
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on sound" to make music, (I thought I was the only one).<div>And I'm still =
surprised at the breadth of knowledge that a community of people with this =
interest in common have.</div><div>My thanks to you all and especially Viol=
et for keeping it all going.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers! &nbsp;<br><br=
>Gareth<br><br><div>&gt; From: mp@mpeters.de<br>&gt; To: Loopers-Delight@lo=
opers-delight.com<br>&gt; Subject: RE: Happy 15th, Looper's Delight!<br>&gt=
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nd this community irrevocably changed the shape of my<br>&gt; artistic life=
<br>&gt; <br>&gt; the same for me ... thanks everybody, and special thanks =
to some of you<br>&gt; <br>&gt; -Michael<br>&gt; <br></div></div> =09=09 =
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=0ASent: Friday, September 2, 2011 1:19 AM=0ASubject: RE: Happy 15th, Loope=
r's Delight!=0A=0A> This website and this community irrevocably changed the=
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mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><span>I'm "Replying t=
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to stop receiving an email for every post on the site.&nbsp; I've sent emai=
l requests to LD and there has been no response.&nbsp; So my only recourse =
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irrevocably changed the shape of my<br>artistic life<br><br>the same for me=
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I'm "Replying to all" for every loopers delight email I get until someone c=
an tell me how to stop receiving an email for every post on the site.=A0 I'=
ve sent email requests to LD and there has been no response.=A0 So my only =
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until someone can help me.=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom:=
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=0ASent: Friday, September 2, 2011 1:13 AM=0ASubject: RE: vst file player=
=0A=0A=0A@Per yes, for Windows :) & I haven't asked on the =0ABidule forum =
yet=0A@Mark thanks, I downloaded Nosinkloop & will try it =0Aasap - thanks!=
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mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><span>I'm "Replying t=
o all" for every loopers delight email I get until someone can tell me how =
to stop receiving an email for every post on the site.&nbsp; I've sent emai=
l requests to LD and there has been no response.&nbsp; So my only recourse =
now is to fill everyone else's inbox the way mine is being filled until som=
eone can help me.</span><div><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: times new=
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: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face=3D"=
Arial" size=3D"2"><hr size=3D"1"><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:=
</span></b> Michael Peters &lt;mp@mpeters.de&gt;<br><b><span style=3D"font-=
weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br><b><sp=
an style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, September 2, 2011 =
1:13
 AM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> RE: vst fi=
le player<br></font><br><div id=3D"yiv1115200378">=0A=0A =0A =0A =0A<div di=
r=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span class=3D"yiv=
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I'm "Replying to all" for every loopers delight email I get until someone c=
an tell me how to stop receiving an email for every post on the site.=A0 I'=
ve sent email requests to LD and there has been no response.=A0 So my only =
recourse now is to fill everyone else's inbox the way mine is being filled =
until someone can help me.=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom:=
 William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com>=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deli=
ght.com=0ASent: Friday, September 2, 2011 12:01 AM=0ASubject: Soundtracks=
=0A=0A=0ADiggin' =A0it=0A=A0Bill=0A=0AA bit of topic maybe, but I thought s=
ome of you might be interested:=0A=0AThis is music I did for movies through=
out the years and finally put them in one website:=0A=0Ahttp://www.reyn.net=
/soundtracks=0A=0AEnjoy,=0A=0ACheers,=0A=0AReyn.
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti=
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><span>I'm "Replying t=
o all" for every loopers delight email I get until someone can tell me how =
to stop receiving an email for every post on the site.&nbsp; I've sent emai=
l requests to LD and there has been no response.&nbsp; So my only recourse =
now is to fill everyone else's inbox the way mine is being filled until som=
eone can help me.</span><div><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: times new=
 roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style=3D"font-family=
: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face=3D"=
Arial" size=3D"2"><hr size=3D"1"><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:=
</span></b> William Walker &lt;billwalker@baymoon.com&gt;<br><b><span style=
=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<=
br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, September=
 2, 2011
 12:01 AM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Soun=
dtracks<br></font><br><div id=3D"yiv2061832024">Diggin' &nbsp;it<div>&nbsp;=
Bill</div><div><br></div><div><span class=3D"yiv2061832024Apple-style-span"=
 style=3D"font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><font class=3D"yiv=
2061832024Apple-style-span" color=3D"#8400eb">A bit of topic maybe, but I t=
hought some of you might be interested:</font></span><div style=3D"font-fam=
ily:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><font class=3D"yiv2061832024Apple-st=
yle-span" color=3D"#8400eb"><br></font></div><div style=3D"font-family:aria=
l, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><font class=3D"yiv2061832024Apple-style-span=
" color=3D"#8400eb">This is music I did for movies throughout the years and=
 finally put them in one website:</font></div><div style=3D"font-family:ari=
al, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial, =
sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><span class=3D"yiv2061832024Apple-style-span"
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yn.net/soundtracks" style=3D"cursor:pointer;color:rgb(59, 89, 152);text-dec=
oration:underline;"><span>http://www.reyn.net/soundtrack</span><span class=
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0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;"></span>s</a></s=
pan></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><br>=
</div><div style=3D"font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><font cl=
ass=3D"yiv2061832024Apple-style-span" color=3D"#8400eb">Enjoy,</font></div>=
<div style=3D"font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><font class=3D=
"yiv2061832024Apple-style-span" color=3D"#8400eb"><br></font></div><div sty=
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 sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><font class=3D"yiv2061832024Apple-style-span" =
color=3D"#8400eb"><br></font></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial, sans-se=
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I'm "Replying to all" for every loopers delight email I get until someone c=
an tell me how to stop receiving an email for every post on the site.=A0 I'=
ve sent email requests to LD and there has been no response.=A0 So my only =
recourse now is to fill everyone else's inbox the way mine is being filled =
until someone can help me.=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom:=
 Revfever <revfever@ubergadget.com>=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.c=
om=0ASent: Thursday, September 1, 2011 10:47 PM=0ASubject: Re: Happy 15th, =
Looper's Delight!=0A=0AHappy B-Day LD and a BIG THANX to Kim and Violet!=A0=
 (and also, thanx to a good number of some other excellent folks on the lis=
t, as well)=0A=0AOne of THE BEST lists I have ever joined!=A0 I may have jo=
ined just a small few years ago, but it is STILL one of the BEST!=0AI hope =
in some small way(s), I've contributed some good things to the list, too. M=
y pleasure and DUTY to do so! :-)=0A=0AI still PROUDLY wear my LD t-shirt w=
ith Kim's wonderful visage as often as I can. Thanx again to whoever(?) it =
was that did that GREAT printing job!=0AI've been involved in the silk scre=
ening biz off and on for many years and that printing is excellent!=0A=0ATo=
wards the Alien...=0A=0ARev. Fever=0APortland,OR=0Ahttp://www.spiritone.com=
/~rvfever=0A=0AOn Sep 1, 2011, at 1:58 PM, Violet Xoxox wrote:=0A=0A> On th=
is date, September 1st, fifteen years ago, Looper's Delight was=0A> launche=
d.=A0 We didn't even have a dedicated domain name back then, and were=0A> r=
unning around trying to learn how to use the mailing list software and put=
=0A> a webpage up and get word out to people.=A0 Somehow, it worked.=0A> =
=0A> Happy, happy, joy, joy!=A0 I hope you will all join me in raising a gl=
ass to=0A> Kim today.=A0 He is desperately missed, but he will always be wi=
th us in=0A> spirit.=0A> =0A> Onward and upward! :)=0A> =0A> Violet=0A> xox=
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now is to fill everyone else's inbox the way mine is being filled until som=
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Arial" size=3D"2"><hr size=3D"1"><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:=
</span></b> Revfever &lt;revfever@ubergadget.com&gt;<br><b><span style=3D"f=
ont-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br><b=
><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, September 1,=
 2011 10:47
 PM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Happy =
15th, Looper's Delight!<br></font><br>Happy B-Day LD and a BIG THANX to Kim=
 and Violet!&nbsp; (and also, thanx to a good number of some other excellen=
t folks on the list, as well)<br><br>One of THE BEST lists I have ever join=
ed!&nbsp; I may have joined just a small few years ago, but it is STILL one=
 of the BEST!<br>I hope in some small way(s), I've contributed some good th=
ings to the list, too. My pleasure and DUTY to do so! :-)<br><br>I still PR=
OUDLY wear my LD t-shirt with Kim's wonderful visage as often as I can. Tha=
nx again to whoever(?) it was that did that GREAT printing job!<br>I've bee=
n involved in the silk screening biz off and on for many years and that pri=
nting is excellent!<br><br>Towards the Alien...<br><br>Rev. Fever<br>Portla=
nd,OR<br><a href=3D"http://www.spiritone.com/%7Ervfever" target=3D"_blank">=
http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever</a><br><br>On Sep 1, 2011, at 1:58 PM,
 Violet Xoxox wrote:<br><br>&gt; On this date, September 1st, fifteen years=
 ago, Looper's Delight was<br>&gt; launched.&nbsp; We didn't even have a de=
dicated domain name back then, and were<br>&gt; running around trying to le=
arn how to use the mailing list software and put<br>&gt; a webpage up and g=
et word out to people.&nbsp; Somehow, it worked.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Happy, ha=
ppy, joy, joy!&nbsp; I hope you will all join me in raising a glass to<br>&=
gt; Kim today.&nbsp; He is desperately missed, but he will always be with u=
s in<br>&gt; spirit.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Onward and upward! :)<br>&gt; <br>&gt=
; Violet<br>&gt; xoxox<br>&gt; <br><br><br><br></div></div></div></body></h=
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I'm "Replying to all" for every loopers delight email I get until someone c=
an tell me how to stop receiving an email for every post on the site.=A0 I'=
ve sent email requests to LD and there has been no response.=A0 So my only =
recourse now is to fill everyone else's inbox the way mine is being filled =
until someone can help me.=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom:=
 Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deligh=
t.com=0ASent: Thursday, September 1, 2011 10:31 PM=0ASubject: Re: Happy 15t=
h, Looper's Delight!=0A=0A=0AThough I have only been around this community =
since 2006 I have gained a lot from it, including friendships with many of =
you for which I'm grateful. =A0Coming to know the fall Y2K festival was fro=
sting on the cake as I for many years wanted opportunity to have the chance=
 to perform in northern CA. =A0Though I didn't have the opportunity to meet=
 Kim in these later years it's been clear of his handiwork in the path that=
 this community has trod. =A0Experiencing the heartbreak in the community o=
f his untimely departure from this world showed how much love and support h=
ad been born out of Loopers-Delight. =A0I raise a glass of virtual cheer in=
 Kim's honor, to Violet, to Loopers-Delight and to all of you.=0A=0AJim=0A=
=0A=0AOn Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Matthias Grob <matilists@gmail.com> =
wrote:=0A=0Ayouhou!=0A>=0A>have a read in the archives!=0A>its such a mysti=
cal moment when such a big story starts=0A>what to say first?=0A>then we ha=
d to define what looper means=0A>and whether its a religion or not=0A>some =
really deep insights=0A>Andre LaFosse (as: The Man Himself) was great in wo=
rding and expanding concepts=0A>and Kim was great in explaining the EDP fun=
ctions and his anarchistic view of a mailing list=0A>=0A>here is a collecti=
on of the best stuff of the first two years:=0A>http://loopers-delight.com/=
musings/posts/index.html=0A>=0A>thank you for reminding us and helping all =
those years, Violet!=0A>Matthias=0A>=0A=0A=0A-- =0AFrom Brooklyn To Glindra=
n, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Procee=
ds=0Afrom the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodin=
peterthorn.bandcamp.com.=0A=0Awoodandwiremusic.wordpress.com
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mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><span>I'm "Replying t=
o all" for every loopers delight email I get until someone can tell me how =
to stop receiving an email for every post on the site.&nbsp; I've sent emai=
l requests to LD and there has been no response.&nbsp; So my only recourse =
now is to fill everyone else's inbox the way mine is being filled until som=
eone can help me.</span><div><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: times new=
 roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style=3D"font-family=
: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face=3D"=
Arial" size=3D"2"><hr size=3D"1"><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:=
</span></b> Jim Goodin &lt;jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com&gt;<br><b><span style=
=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<=
br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, Septemb=
er 1, 2011
 10:31 PM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: =
Happy 15th, Looper's Delight!<br></font><br><div id=3D"yiv934730428">Though=
 I have only been around this community since 2006 I have gained a lot from=
 it, including friendships with many of you for which I'm grateful. &nbsp;C=
oming to know the fall Y2K festival was frosting on the cake as I for many =
years wanted opportunity to have the chance to perform in northern CA. &nbs=
p;Though I didn't have the opportunity to meet Kim in these later years it'=
s been clear of his handiwork in the path that this community has trod. &nb=
sp;Experiencing the heartbreak in the community of his untimely departure f=
rom this world showed how much love and support had been born out of Looper=
s-Delight. &nbsp;I raise a glass of virtual cheer in Kim's honor, to Violet=
, to Loopers-Delight and to all of you.<div>=0A<br></div><div>Jim<br><br><d=
iv class=3D"yiv934730428gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Matth=
ias Grob <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:matili=
sts@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:matilists@gmail.com">matili=
sts@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"yiv934730428gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-lef=
t:1ex;">=0Ayouhou!<br>=0A<br>=0Ahave a read in the archives!<br>=0Aits such=
 a mystical moment when such a big story starts<br>=0Awhat to say first?<br=
>=0Athen we had to define what looper means<br>=0Aand whether its a religio=
n or not<br>=0Asome really deep insights<br>=0AAndre LaFosse (as: The Man H=
imself) was great in wording and expanding concepts<br>=0Aand Kim was great=
 in explaining the EDP functions and his anarchistic view of a mailing list=
<br>=0A<br>=0Ahere is a collection of the best stuff of the first two years=
:<br>=0A<a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://loopers-deligh=
t.com/musings/posts/index.html">http://loopers-delight.com/musings/posts/in=
dex.html</a><br>=0A<br>=0Athank you for reminding us and helping all those =
years, Violet!<br>=0A<font color=3D"#888888">Matthias<br>=0A</font></blockq=
uote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><i>From Brooklyn To =
Glindran</i>, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin &amp; Peter Th=
=F6rn.&nbsp; Proceeds<br>from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF Interna=
tional.&nbsp; <a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://jimgoodi=
npeterthorn.bandcamp.com">jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com</a>.<br>=0A<br><=
a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://woodandwiremusic.wordpr=
ess.com">woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com</a><br>=0A</div>=0A</div><br><br></=
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I'm "Replying to all" for every loopers delight email I get until someone c=
an tell me how to stop receiving an email for every post on the site.=A0 I'=
ve sent email requests to LD and there has been no response.=A0 So my only =
recourse now is to fill everyone else's inbox the way mine is being filled =
until someone can help me.=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom:=
 Matthias Grob <matilists@gmail.com>=0ATo: Loop List <Loopers-Delight@loope=
rs-delight.com>=0ASent: Thursday, September 1, 2011 10:09 PM=0ASubject: Re:=
 Happy 15th, Looper's Delight!=0A=0Ayouhou!=0A=0Ahave a read in the archive=
s!=0Aits such a mystical moment when such a big story starts=0Awhat to say =
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on or not=0Asome really deep insights=0AAndre LaFosse (as: The Man Himself)=
 was great in wording and expanding concepts=0Aand Kim was great in explain=
ing the EDP functions and his anarchistic view of a mailing list=0A=0Ahere =
is a collection of the best stuff of the first two years:=0Ahttp://loopers-=
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mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><span>I'm "Replying t=
o all" for every loopers delight email I get until someone can tell me how =
to stop receiving an email for every post on the site.&nbsp; I've sent emai=
l requests to LD and there has been no response.&nbsp; So my only recourse =
now is to fill everyone else's inbox the way mine is being filled until som=
eone can help me.</span><div><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: times new=
 roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style=3D"font-family=
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Arial" size=3D"2"><hr size=3D"1"><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:=
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font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Loop List &lt;Loopers-Delight@loopers-de=
light.com&gt;<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thu=
rsday,
 September 1, 2011 10:09 PM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subjec=
t:</span></b> Re: Happy 15th, Looper's Delight!<br></font><br>youhou!<br><b=
r>have a read in the archives!<br>its such a mystical moment when such a bi=
g story starts<br>what to say first?<br>then we had to define what looper m=
eans<br>and whether its a religion or not<br>some really deep insights<br>A=
ndre LaFosse (as: The Man Himself) was great in wording and expanding conce=
pts<br>and Kim was great in explaining the EDP functions and his anarchisti=
c view of a mailing list<br><br>here is a collection of the best stuff of t=
he first two years:<br><a href=3D"http://loopers-delight.com/musings/posts/=
index.html" target=3D"_blank">http://loopers-delight.com/musings/posts/inde=
x.html</a><br><br>thank you for reminding us and helping all those years, V=
iolet!<br>Matthias<br><br><br></div></div></div></body></html>
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I'm "Replying to all" for every loopers delight email I get until someone c=
an tell me how to stop receiving an email for every post on the site.=A0 I'=
ve sent email requests to LD and there has been no response.=A0 So my only =
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m=0ACc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Thursday, September 1, =
2011 9:58 PM=0ASubject: A way to discover when we signed up originally at L=
oopers Delight?=0A=0AIs there a place where the information resides to disc=
over when=0Awe originally decided to sign up here at Loopers Delight?=0A=0A=
I was reminiscing when I read of it's birthday and my memory is not very go=
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to stop receiving an email for every post on the site.&nbsp; I've sent emai=
l requests to LD and there has been no response.&nbsp; So my only recourse =
now is to fill everyone else's inbox the way mine is being filled until som=
eone can help me.</span><div><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: times new=
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</span></b> Rick Walker &lt;looppool@cruzio.com&gt;<br><b><span style=3D"fo=
nt-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br><b>=
<span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b>
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;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, September 1, 2011 9:58 PM<br><b><span style=
=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> A way to discover when we signe=
d up originally at Loopers Delight?<br></font><br>Is there a place where th=
e information resides to discover when<br>we originally decided to sign up =
here at Loopers Delight?<br><br>I was reminiscing when I read of it's birth=
day and my memory is not very good<br>for dates.<br><br>I'm just curious.<b=
r><br>Rick Walker<br><br><br><br></div></div></div></body></html>
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I'm "Replying to all" for every loopers delight email I get until someone c=
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to stop receiving an email for every post on the site.&nbsp; I've sent emai=
l requests to LD and there has been no response.&nbsp; So my only recourse =
now is to fill everyone else's inbox the way mine is being filled until som=
eone can help me.</span><div><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: times new=
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I'm "Replying to all" for every loopers delight email I get until someone c=
an tell me how to stop receiving an email for every post on the site.=A0 I'=
ve sent email requests to LD and there has been no response.=A0 So my only =
recourse now is to fill everyone else's inbox the way mine is being filled =
until someone can help me.=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom:=
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m=0ACc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Thursday, September 1, =
2011 9:54 PM=0ASubject: Re: Happy 15th, Looper's Delight!=0A=0AHappy 15th A=
nniversary,=A0 Loopers Delight!!!!!=0A=0AI'm so grateful for you continued =
existence.=0A=0AThis website and this community irrevocably changed the sha=
pe of my artistic life.=0AAlmost everything I've done in the last 12 years =
has been fairly directly influenced by the community=0Aand the ideas that I=
've garnered from it's existence.=A0 It's enabled me to perform in 15 diffe=
rent countries=0Aand radically expanded the scope of my own music because o=
f the amazing musicians I've been blessed=0Ato hear and to perform with.=A0=
 =A0  I was always a side man,=A0 professionally speaking before it and it'=
s=0Aexistence and the technologies that it represented (and presented) indi=
rectly gave me the courage to become a solo artist=0A=0AI joined in the ear=
ly years (and can't remember when) but I remember it very distinctly becaus=
e=0Ait was , literally,=A0 the day this complete and utter computer neophyt=
e got e-mail running for the first=0Atime on a terrible out of date Mac com=
puter.=0A=0AI was so turned on by the fact that people from all over the wo=
rld could communicate with each other on=0Aa forum (I really did come to th=
is stuff later than most) and that all their communications came to=0Amy em=
ail inbox.=A0 I was also overwhelmed by my lack of knowledge about the inte=
rnet and computers.=0A=0AUnfortunately,=A0 I was so overwhelmed by the doze=
ns of emails that hit my inbox in the first few days that I=0Afairly quickl=
y unsubscribed before I had learned how to get the daily digest or , god fo=
rbid, use a filtering=0Asystem in my email (which everyone tells me to do a=
nd which I still haven't done).=A0 I didn't rejoin for a while=0Alater.=0A=
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ur.=A0 =A0 =A0 In two weeks=A0 I had a 2 month tour booked..............thi=
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 dedication to this community.........to Violet for continuing it.........t=
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is community (it should be known=0Athat Matthias' invention of the Paradis =
Loop Delay and his involvement with Gibson and Kim that catalyzed all=0Aof =
this in the first place which is not to take anything away from Kim's visio=
n to create it) and for the=0Aamazing group of people that I've met here on=
line and through the=0Ahuge amount of looping festivals that we've all been=
 able to play at one time or another.=0A=0ALoop on!=A0 =A0  I say a toast o=
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti=
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to stop receiving an email for every post on the site.&nbsp; I've sent emai=
l requests to LD and there has been no response.&nbsp; So my only recourse =
now is to fill everyone else's inbox the way mine is being filled until som=
eone can help me.</span><div><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: times new=
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: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face=3D"=
Arial" size=3D"2"><hr size=3D"1"><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:=
</span></b> Rick Walker &lt;looppool@cruzio.com&gt;<br><b><span style=3D"fo=
nt-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br><b>=
<span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b>
 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold=
;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, September 1, 2011 9:54 PM<br><b><span style=
=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Happy 15th, Looper's Deligh=
t!<br></font><br>Happy 15th Anniversary,&nbsp; Loopers Delight!!!!!<br><br>=
I'm so grateful for you continued existence.<br><br>This website and this c=
ommunity irrevocably changed the shape of my artistic life.<br>Almost every=
thing I've done in the last 12 years has been fairly directly influenced by=
 the community<br>and the ideas that I've garnered from it's existence.&nbs=
p; It's enabled me to perform in 15 different countries<br>and radically ex=
panded the scope of my own music because of the amazing musicians I've been=
 blessed<br>to hear and to perform with.&nbsp; &nbsp;  I was always a side =
man,&nbsp; professionally speaking before it and it's<br>existence and the =
technologies that it represented (and presented) indirectly gave me the
 courage to become a solo artist<br><br>I joined in the early years (and ca=
n't remember when) but I remember it very distinctly because<br>it was , li=
terally,&nbsp; the day this complete and utter computer neophyte got e-mail=
 running for the first<br>time on a terrible out of date Mac computer.<br><=
br>I was so turned on by the fact that people from all over the world could=
 communicate with each other on<br>a forum (I really did come to this stuff=
 later than most) and that all their communications came to<br>my email inb=
ox.&nbsp; I was also overwhelmed by my lack of knowledge about the internet=
 and computers.<br><br>Unfortunately,&nbsp; I was so overwhelmed by the doz=
ens of emails that hit my inbox in the first few days that I<br>fairly quic=
kly unsubscribed before I had learned how to get the daily digest or , god =
forbid, use a filtering<br>system in my email (which everyone tells me to d=
o and which I still haven't done).&nbsp; I didn't rejoin for a
 while<br>later.<br><br>In late 2002 or early 2003&nbsp; I wrote the list a=
sking if anyone would consider doing a mini-festival in their<br>town in Eu=
rope or the UK because I had one seed gig in Italy (that was later cancelle=
d) and was coming to<br>tour.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; In two weeks&nbsp; I had =
a 2 month tour booked..............this BLEW MY MIND!!!!!!!!<br><br>So,&nbs=
p; yes,&nbsp; all hats off to Kim's vision and dedication to this community=
.........to Violet for continuing it.........to<br>Matthias Grob for his co=
ntinual attempts to promote and innovate for this community (it should be k=
nown<br>that Matthias' invention of the Paradis Loop Delay and his involvem=
ent with Gibson and Kim that catalyzed all<br>of this in the first place wh=
ich is not to take anything away from Kim's vision to create it) and for th=
e<br>amazing group of people that I've met here online and through the<br>h=
uge amount of looping festivals that we've all been able to play at
 one time or another.<br><br>Loop on!&nbsp; &nbsp;  I say a toast of gratit=
ude to Loopers Delight.<br><br>love,&nbsp;  Rick Walker<br><br><br><br><br>=
&gt; <br><br><br><br></div></div></div></body></html>
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I'm "Replying to all" for every loopers delight email I get until someone c=
an tell me how to stop receiving an email for every post on the site.=A0 I'=
ve sent email requests to LD and there has been no response.=A0 So my only =
recourse now is to fill everyone else's inbox the way mine is being filled =
until someone can help me.=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom:=
 mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deli=
ght.com=0ASent: Thursday, September 1, 2011 7:42 PM=0ASubject: Re: OT: Need=
 a software 303 fast...=0A=0A=0AHA, running Tau and the ESM together... nic=
e.. thx guys... bedtime.. just wait til the wife goes out in the morn... IT=
S RAVE TIME!=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:33 AM, Charles Zwicky <=
cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:=0A=0A =0A>=0A>=0A>mark,=0A>=0A>=0A>=A0I've u=
sed both the Tau Bassline and the Logic synth=0A"ES M"=A0=A0 they can both =
get you what you=0Aneed...=0A>=0A>=0A>The "ES M" has a telltale silver grap=
hic and very few=0Acontrols...=A0=A0 be not afraid!=0A>=0A>=0A>-Chuck=0A>=
=0A>=0A>At 01:24 +0200 2/9/11, mark francombe wrote:=0A>On Fri, Sep 2, 2011=
 at 1:16 AM, Charles=0AZwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net>=0Awrote:=0A>>=0A>>Lo=
gic has a 303 emulation ..!=0A>>>=0A>=0A>>What the...??=0A>>=0A>=0A>>On Fri=
, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>=0Awrote:=0A>>> T=
au!=0A>>=0A>>"Tau Bassline" is the full name of the plugin.=0A>>=0A>>Checki=
n...=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Thanks for all of that, Im very versed on what makes a r=
eal 303, Ive=0Abeen into them from the start.. but the Logic Software I nee=
d to=0Aexplore... mstely Im just using classical presets,... gotta check=0A=
those synthz.. but they just so scary lookin=B4.. Im scared away by=0Athe l=
ack of normal knobs... I will dive in...=0A>>=0A>>Thx guys... solutions in =
less than 7 minutes.. better than calling the=0Aphone company...=0A>>=0A>>-=
-=0A>>Mark Francombe=0A>>www.markfrancombe.com=0A>>www.ordoabkhao.com=0A>>h=
ttp://vimeo.com/user825094=0A>>http://www.looop.no=0A>>twitter @markfrancom=
be=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>--  =0A>=0A>...=0A>http://www.zmix.net=0A>=0A>http://=
www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky=0A>=0A>http://albumcredits.com/zmix=0A=0A=0A--=
 =0AMark Francombe=0Awww.markfrancombe.com=0Awww.ordoabkhao.com=0Ahttp://vi=
meo.com/user825094=0Ahttp://www.looop.no=0Atwitter @markfrancombe
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti=
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><span>I'm "Replying t=
o all" for every loopers delight email I get until someone can tell me how =
to stop receiving an email for every post on the site.&nbsp; I've sent emai=
l requests to LD and there has been no response.&nbsp; So my only recourse =
now is to fill everyone else's inbox the way mine is being filled until som=
eone can help me.</span><div><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: times new=
 roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style=3D"font-family=
: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face=3D"=
Arial" size=3D"2"><hr size=3D"1"><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:=
</span></b> mark francombe &lt;mark@markfrancombe.com&gt;<br><b><span style=
=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<=
br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, Septemb=
er 1, 2011
 7:42 PM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: O=
T: Need a software 303 fast...<br></font><br><div id=3D"yiv1921261018">HA, =
running Tau and the ESM together... nice.. thx guys... bedtime.. just wait =
til the wife goes out in the morn... ITS RAVE TIME!<br><br><br><br><div cla=
ss=3D"yiv1921261018gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:33 AM, Charles Zwi=
cky <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:cazwicky@ea=
rthlink.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:cazwicky@earthlink.net">cazwi=
cky@earthlink.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>=0A=0A<blockquote class=3D"yiv19=
21261018gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;=
padding-left:1ex;"><u></u>=0A<div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>mark,</div>=0A<=
div><br></div>=0A<div>&nbsp;I've used both the Tau Bassline and the Logic s=
ynth=0A"ES M"&nbsp;&nbsp; they can both get you what you=0Aneed...</div>=0A=
<div><br></div>=0A<div>The "ES M" has a telltale silver graphic and very fe=
w=0Acontrols...&nbsp;&nbsp; be not afraid!</div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>-=
Chuck</div><div><div></div><div class=3D"yiv1921261018h5">=0A<div><br></div=
>=0A<div>At 01:24 +0200 2/9/11, mark francombe wrote:</div>=0A<blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite">On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:16 AM, Charles=0AZwicky &lt;<a rel=3D=
"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:cazwicky@earthlink.net" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"mailto:cazwicky@earthlink.net">cazwicky@earthlink.net</a>&gt;=0Awrote:<=
br>=0A<blockquote>Logic has a 303 emulation ..!<br>=0A</blockquote>=0A</blo=
ckquote>=0A<blockquote type=3D"cite"><br>=0AWhat the...??<br>=0A</blockquot=
e>=0A<blockquote type=3D"cite"><br>=0AOn Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Per B=
oysen &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboysen@gmail.com</a>&gt;=
=0Awrote:<br>=0A&gt; Tau!<br>=0A<br>=0A"Tau Bassline" is the full name of t=
he plugin.<br>=0A<br>=0ACheckin...<br>=0A<br>=0A<br>=0AThanks for all of th=
at, Im very versed on what makes a real 303, Ive=0Abeen into them from the =
start.. but the Logic Software I need to=0Aexplore... mstely Im just using =
classical presets,... gotta check=0Athose synthz.. but they just so scary l=
ookin=B4.. Im scared away by=0Athe lack of normal knobs... I will dive in..=
.<br>=0A<br>=0AThx guys... solutions in less than 7 minutes.. better than c=
alling the=0Aphone company...<br>=0A<br>=0A--<br>=0A<font size=3D"+1"><u><i=
>Mark Francombe</i></u></font><br>=0A<a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com/"><font size=3D"-2">www.markfrancombe.=
com</font></a><font size=3D"-2"><br>=0A</font><a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D=
"_blank" href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com/"><font size=3D"-2">www.ordoabkh=
ao.com</font></a><font size=3D"-2"><br>=0A</font><a rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094"><font size=3D"-2">http://v=
imeo.com/user825094</font></a><font size=3D"-2"><br>=0A</font><a rel=3D"nof=
ollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.looop.no/"><font size=3D"-2">ht=
tp://www.looop.no</font></a><font size=3D"-2"><br>=0Atwitter @markfrancombe=
</font></blockquote>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<u></u></div></d=
iv><div class=3D"yiv1921261018im"><pre>-- =0A</pre><u></u>=0A<div><br>=0A..=
.<br>=0A<a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.zmix.net">=
http://www.zmix.net</a><br>=0A<br>=0A<a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky">http://www.esession.com/ChuckZ=
wicky</a><br>=0A<br>=0A<a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http:/=
/albumcredits.com/zmix">http://albumcredits.com/zmix</a></div>=0A</div></di=
v>=0A</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><i style=3D"font-f=
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>Mark Francombe</u></font></i><br>=0A=0A<font size=3D"1"><a rel=3D"nofollow=
" style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51);" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.mark=
francombe.com/">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51);=
"><a rel=3D"nofollow" style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51);" target=3D"_blank" hre=
f=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com/">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br style=3D"color:r=
gb(51, 0, 51);">=0A=0A<a rel=3D"nofollow" style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51);" t=
arget=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094">http://vimeo.com/user=
825094</a><br style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51);"><a rel=3D"nofollow" style=3D"=
color:rgb(51, 0, 51);" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.looop.no/">http=
://www.looop.no</a><br>=0A=0Atwitter @markfrancombe</font><br>=0A</div><br>=
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I'm "Replying to all" for every loopers delight email I get until someone c=
an tell me how to stop receiving an email for every post on the site.=A0 I'=
ve sent email requests to LD and there has been no response.=A0 So my only =
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until someone can help me.=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom:=
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ght.com=0ASent: Thursday, September 1, 2011 7:33 PM=0ASubject: Re: OT: Need=
 a software 303 fast...=0A=0A=0ARe: OT: Need a software 303=0Afast... =0A=
=0Amark,=0A=0A=A0I've used both the Tau Bassline and the Logic synth=0A"ES =
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gic has a 303 emulation ..!=0A>>=0A=0A>What the...??=0A>=0A=0A>On Fri, Sep =
2, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>=0Awrote:=0A>> Tau!=0A>=
=0A>"Tau Bassline" is the full name of the plugin.=0A>=0A>Checkin...=0A>=0A=
>=0A>Thanks for all of that, Im very versed on what makes a real 303, Ive=
=0Abeen into them from the start.. but the Logic Software I need to=0Aexplo=
re... mstely Im just using classical presets,... gotta check=0Athose synthz=
.. but they just so scary lookin=B4.. Im scared away by=0Athe lack of norma=
l knobs... I will dive in...=0A>=0A>Thx guys... solutions in less than 7 mi=
nutes.. better than calling the=0Aphone company...=0A>=0A>--=0A>Mark Franco=
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti=
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o all" for every loopers delight email I get until someone can tell me how =
to stop receiving an email for every post on the site.&nbsp; I've sent emai=
l requests to LD and there has been no response.&nbsp; So my only recourse =
now is to fill everyone else's inbox the way mine is being filled until som=
eone can help me.</span><div><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: times new=
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: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face=3D"=
Arial" size=3D"2"><hr size=3D"1"><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:=
</span></b> Charles Zwicky &lt;cazwicky@earthlink.net&gt;<br><b><span style=
=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<=
br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, Septemb=
er 1, 2011
 7:33 PM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: O=
T: Need a software 303 fast...<br></font><br><div id=3D"yiv116647206">=0A<s=
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> =0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>mark,</div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>&nbsp;I've=
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<div>At 01:24 +0200 2/9/11, mark francombe wrote:</div>=0A<blockquote type=
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k" href=3D"mailto:cazwicky@earthlink.net">cazwicky@earthlink.net</a>&gt;=0A=
wrote:<br>=0A<blockquote>Logic has a 303 emulation ..!<br>=0A</blockquote>=
=0A</blockquote>=0A<blockquote type=3D"cite" cite=3D""><br>=0AWhat the...??=
<br>=0A</blockquote>=0A<blockquote type=3D"cite" cite=3D""><br>=0AOn Fri, S=
ep 2, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Per Boysen &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto=
:perboysen@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com"=
>perboysen@gmail.com</a>&gt;=0Awrote:<br>=0A&gt; Tau!<br>=0A<br>=0A"Tau Bas=
sline" is the full name of the plugin.<br>=0A<br>=0ACheckin...<br>=0A<br>=
=0A<br>=0AThanks for all of that, Im very versed on what makes a real 303, =
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=0AI'm "Replying to all" for every loopers delight email I get until someon=
e can tell me how to stop receiving an email for every post on the site.=A0=
 I've sent email requests to LD and there has been no response.=A0 So my on=
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ed until someone can help me.=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom:=
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=0ASent: Thursday, September 1, 2011 7:32 PM=0ASubject: Re: OT: Need a soft=
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 start.. but the Logic Software I need to explore...=0A> mstely Im just usi=
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iv><span>I'm "Replying to all" for every loopers delight email I get until =
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te.&nbsp; I've sent email requests to LD and there has been no response.&nb=
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s being filled until someone can help me.</span><div style=3D"font-family: =
times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style=3D"fo=
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 good but a lot of cheezy stuff there. You really need to<br>run synth plug=
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I'm "Replying to all" for every loopers delight email I get until someone c=
an tell me how to stop receiving an email for every post on the site.=A0 I'=
ve sent email requests to LD and there has been no response.=A0 So my only =
recourse now is to fill everyone else's inbox the way mine is being filled =
until someone can help me.=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom:=
 mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deli=
ght.com=0ASent: Thursday, September 1, 2011 7:24 PM=0ASubject: Re: OT: Need=
 a software 303 fast...=0A=0A=0AOn Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:16 AM, Charles Zwi=
cky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:=0A=0ALogic has a 303 emulation ..!=0A=
=0AWhat the...?? =0A=0AOn Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Per Boysen <perboyse=
n@gmail.com> wrote:=0A> Tau!=0A=0A"Tau Bassline" is the full name of the pl=
ugin.=0A=0ACheckin...=0A=0A=0AThanks for all of that, Im very versed on wha=
t makes a real 303, Ive been into them from the start.. but the Logic Softw=
are I need to explore... mstely Im just using classical presets,... gotta c=
heck those synthz.. but they just so scary lookin=B4.. Im scared away by th=
e lack of normal knobs... I will dive in... =0A=0AThx guys... solutions in =
less than 7 minutes.. better than calling the phone company...=0A=0A-- =0AM=
ark Francombe=0Awww.markfrancombe.com=0Awww.ordoabkhao.com=0Ahttp://vimeo.c=
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mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><span>I'm "Replying t=
o all" for every loopers delight email I get until someone can tell me how =
to stop receiving an email for every post on the site.&nbsp; I've sent emai=
l requests to LD and there has been no response.&nbsp; So my only recourse =
now is to fill everyone else's inbox the way mine is being filled until som=
eone can help me.</span><div><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: times new=
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: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face=3D"=
Arial" size=3D"2"><hr size=3D"1"><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:=
</span></b> mark francombe &lt;mark@markfrancombe.com&gt;<br><b><span style=
=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<=
br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, Septemb=
er 1, 2011
 7:24 PM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: O=
T: Need a software 303 fast...<br></font><br><div id=3D"yiv360868466">On Fr=
i, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:16 AM, Charles Zwicky <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"n=
ofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:cazwicky@earthlink.net" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"mailto:cazwicky@earthlink.net">cazwicky@earthlink.net</a>&gt;</span> wr=
ote:<br><div class=3D"yiv360868466gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"yiv3608=
68466gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pad=
ding-left:1ex;">=0A=0ALogic has a 303 emulation ..!</blockquote><div><br>Wh=
at the...?? <br></div></div><br>On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Per Boysen =
&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com" target=3D"_b=
lank" href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboysen@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br>=0A&gt; Tau!<br>=0A<br>=0A"Tau Bassline" is the full name of the plugi=
n.<br><br>Checkin...<br><br><br>Thanks for all of that, Im very versed on w=
hat makes a real 303, Ive been into them from the start.. but the Logic Sof=
tware I need to explore... mstely Im just using classical presets,... gotta=
 check those synthz.. but they just so scary lookin=B4.. Im scared away by =
the lack of normal knobs... I will dive in... <br>=0A=0A<br>Thx guys... sol=
utions in less than 7 minutes.. better than calling the phone company...<br=
 clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><i style=3D"font-family:verdana, sans-serif;color=
:rgb(255, 255, 255);background-color:rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font style=3D"font-fam=
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I'm "Replying to all" for every loopers delight email I get until someone c=
an tell me how to stop receiving an email for every post on the site.=A0 I'=
ve sent email requests to LD and there has been no response.=A0 So my only =
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until someone can help me.=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom:=
 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=
=0ASent: Thursday, September 1, 2011 7:24 PM=0ASubject: Re: OT: Need a soft=
ware 303 fast...=0A=0AOn Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:29 AM, mark francombe <mark=
@markfrancombe.com> wrote:=0A> 303=0A=0AThis other demo track shows off a q=
uite impressing 303 parroting:=0Ahttp://www.muon-software.com/downloads/Tau=
BasslineMkII.mp3=0A=0AThis TauBAssline is closer to the original than you w=
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti=
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><span>I'm "Replying t=
o all" for every loopers delight email I get until someone can tell me how =
to stop receiving an email for every post on the site.&nbsp; I've sent emai=
l requests to LD and there has been no response.&nbsp; So my only recourse =
now is to fill everyone else's inbox the way mine is being filled until som=
eone can help me.</span><div><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: times new=
 roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style=3D"font-family=
: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face=3D"=
Arial" size=3D"2"><hr size=3D"1"><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:=
</span></b> Per Boysen &lt;perboysen@gmail.com&gt;<br><b><span style=3D"fon=
t-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br><b><=
span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, September 1, 2=
011 7:24
 PM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: OT: Ne=
ed a software 303 fast...<br></font><br>On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:29 AM, ma=
rk francombe &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com" href=3D"mailt=
o:mark@markfrancombe.com">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; 303=
<br><br>This other demo track shows off a quite impressing 303 parroting:<b=
r><a href=3D"http://www.muon-software.com/downloads/TauBasslineMkII.mp3" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">http://www.muon-software.com/downloads/TauBasslineMkII.mp3<=
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=0AI'm "Replying to all" for every loopers delight email I get until someon=
e can tell me how to stop receiving an email for every post on the site.=A0=
 I've sent email requests to LD and there has been no response.=A0 So my on=
ly recourse now is to fill everyone else's inbox the way mine is being fill=
ed until someone can help me.=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom:=
 tEd =AE kiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net>=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-del=
ight.com=0ASent: Thursday, September 1, 2011 5:46 PM=0ASubject: RE: Happy 1=
5th, Looper's Delight!=0A=0AHi=A0 Vi,=0A=0AAnd I joined it only a little mo=
re than a month later on October 6th.=0A=0AYup, I been hangin' 'round this =
joint a long time.=0A=0AI will definitely go to the microbrewery around the=
 corner from my house this evening and hiost a cool one in his honor.=0A=0A=
Thank goodness LD is here.=0A=0AI've made so many good friends on Loopers D=
elight that my life would surely be the porer if it hadn't been there.=0A=
=0AThanks Kim, wherever you are.=0A=0ATed=0A=0AOn Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:58 =
PM, Violet Xoxox wrote:=0A=0A> On this date, September 1st, fifteen years a=
go, Looper's Delight was=0A> launched.=A0 We didn't even have a dedicated d=
omain name back then, and were=0A> running around trying to learn how to us=
e the mailing list software and put=0A> a webpage up and get word out to pe=
ople.=A0 Somehow, it worked.=0A> =0A> Happy, happy, joy, joy!=A0 I hope you=
 will all join me in raising a glass to=0A> Kim today.=A0 He is desperately=
 missed, but he will always be with us in=0A> spirit.=0A> =0A> Onward and u=
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someone can tell me how to stop receiving an email for every post on the si=
te.&nbsp; I've sent email requests to LD and there has been no response.&nb=
sp; So my only recourse now is to fill everyone else's inbox the way mine i=
s being filled until someone can help me.</span><div style=3D"font-family: =
times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style=3D"fo=
nt-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font=
 face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><hr size=3D"1"><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bol=
d;">From:</span></b> tEd =AE kiLLiAn &lt;tedkillian@charter.net&gt;<br><b><=
span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Loopers-Delight@loopers-de=
light.com<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursda=
y, September
 1, 2011 5:46 PM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></=
b> RE: Happy 15th, Looper's Delight!<br></font><br>Hi&nbsp; Vi,<br><br>And =
I joined it only a little more than a month later on October 6th.<br><br>Yu=
p, I been hangin' 'round this joint a long time.<br><br>I will definitely g=
o to the microbrewery around the corner from my house this evening and hios=
t a cool one in his honor.<br><br>Thank goodness LD is here.<br><br>I've ma=
de so many good friends on Loopers Delight that my life would surely be the=
 porer if it hadn't been there.<br><br>Thanks Kim, wherever you are.<br><br=
>Ted<br><br>On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Violet Xoxox wrote:<br><br>&gt;=
 On this date, September 1st, fifteen years ago, Looper's Delight was<br>&g=
t; launched.&nbsp; We didn't even have a dedicated domain name back then, a=
nd were<br>&gt; running around trying to learn how to use the mailing list =
software and put<br>&gt; a webpage up and get word out to
 people.&nbsp; Somehow, it worked.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Happy, happy, joy, joy!=
&nbsp; I hope you will all join me in raising a glass to<br>&gt; Kim today.=
&nbsp; He is desperately missed, but he will always be with us in<br>&gt; s=
pirit.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Onward and upward! :)<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Violet<br>&g=
t; xoxox<br><br><br><br></div></div></div></body></html>
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I really hate people holding others responsible for their own ignorance.
You in fact never asked directly on LD, I'm sure the guys here would
have helped.
Never heard of the term "digest"?
Stop this!
... Hope there is someone able to ban him, from list and digest.

============== from FAQ on
http://www.loopers-delight.com/list/LoopList.html ====================

Is there a Digest form of LD? How do I receive it?

Yes, there is a digest. To subscribe, send mail with the word
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so I never do. I guess this happens to others as well, because the folks
on the digest almost never participate. I suggest using email filters
instead. Subscribe to the digest only if you have a good technical
reason to do so.

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On Sep 2, 2011, at 7:56 AM, Mich=E8le Moser wrote:

> I really hate people holding others responsible for their own =20
> ignorance.

+ 100000000

Jeff=

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> LD

This gang of people is a great recourse! I first heard about the
Loopers Delight on the Logic User's List around the year 2000. I had
been looping since -83 and brought up a discussion on the Logic User's
List about how sad it was that so little product development is going
on in live electronics, and as an example I described what I was doing
with tape delays and pre MIDI analog and digital delay rack units. A
bass player on the Logic List, can't recall his name right now, then
informed me that "there is a new great list for Loopers" and since
then I've been hanging around this forum day and night.

The earl 00's was a fun period as the Electrixpro Repeater was about
to come out and I read the Repeater reviews by Mark Sottilaro, David
Torn and other early users. Myself I already had an EDP and was on the
waiting list for a Repeater here at the Scandinavian rep's. David Torn
advised me on LD to "feed sequenced MIDI into the Repeater" and this
is what I'm still doing today, although I have migrated the very same
technique to scripting in Mobius (passing through a short Ableton Live
phase in 2005).

In 2002 I planned a live looping tour through Sweden for the summer
2003 and turned to Loopers Delight to ask for people that wanted to
come and play with me here as a sort of touring festival for a month
where we should team up with local musicians in each city, play
together, do our own sets and also give clinics and hang out by the
bar... or elsewhere. Although I had a budget for this only two people
accepted the invitation (which might have turned out lucky, because I
might not have been able to organize logistics for a bigger gang). So
my YK3 Sweden (that's where Rick picked up that funny name from to be
used in Santa Cruz ;-)  came to happen together with Matthias Groob
and Rick Walker. We got a lot of good press, a half an hour
documentary in the national television's art & culture channel as well
as coverage in The Music Room at CNN. I managed to organize a similar
tour de force in 2008 where the Swedish tour was expanded to pass by
also Oslo in Norway and a bunch of venues in Finland. Rick Walker
participated even this time. It was great to do this together because
Rick and Matthias could write into their CVs that their tours "took
them all the way to Sweden" while my CV got boosted by "great
international guest artists". I can really recommend doing
international collaborations because it is a typical win-win-win-WIN
setup where everyone involved gets a lot of good PR for his own local
scene.

Without the internet these two tours would have been only me boring
people with "music they should like better" but thanks to LD it got so
much better. I've had great help too from the Bidule forum, the
Ableton Live forum and lately the Stick Forum. Can't believe humanity
have been so stupid for so long time not having The Internetz!!!!

For the archives, here's the original Sweden 2K3 Loop Tour web page:
http://www.looproom.com/looptour2003/index.php

And for those who uses Facebook, here's the page from 2008:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=8178437050&v=photos

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub

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Turn about is fair play:

Let's all send WOYVEL LOYCE  ten e-mails a day
until he stops angrily spamming us.

Here's his e-mail address:

woyvel@yahoo.com

put WOYVEL LOYCE in the subject header so that he can't SPAM filter the 
replies


Or..................... perhaps he can do the very simple research to 
figure out that this is an automated
list and that HE is responsible for figuring out how to unsubscribe.

Or....................perhaps he can say he is sorry for his aggressive 
tone and ask someone here to help him out.

Or, fuck it..............he can go to the home page and click on 
'mailing list info' ,  scroll down and discover this
little tidbit as I just took 15 seconds to do:

*I'm sorry, I need to unsubscribe from Looper's Delight. How do I do 
that? It's not that I dislike people there or anything, you understand.

To unsubscribe, send mail with the word "unsubscribe" in both the 
subject and body, and no sig files or anything else, to:

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_Don't send your unsubscribe message to the list, or people will make 
fun of you and you will feel like a dork._*



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The only one likely to help him is a psychiatrist.=20

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mich=C3=A8le Moser" <michelemoser@arcor.de>=20
To: "Woyvel Loyce" <woyvel@yahoo.com>=20
Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
Sent: Friday, September 2, 2011 8:56:37 AM=20
Subject: Notice for dorks - LD-Digest=20

I really hate people holding others responsible for their own ignorance.=20
You in fact never asked directly on LD, I'm sure the guys here would=20
have helped.=20
Never heard of the term "digest"?=20
Stop this!=20
... Hope there is someone able to ban him, from list and digest.=20

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D from FAQ on=20
http://www.loopers-delight.com/list/LoopList.html =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20

Is there a Digest form of LD? How do I receive it?=20

Yes, there is a digest. To subscribe, send mail with the word=20
"subscribe" in both the subject and body, and no sig files or anything=20
else, to:=20

Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com=20

You would then want to unsubscribe from the normal list, so send=20
"unsubscribe" to:=20

Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com=20

For posting, make sure you send to the normal=20
Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com address, or nobody will see it.=20
Personally, I hate digest lists. I never get around to reading them=20
because they arrive in one big, imposing lump. Replying to posts always=20
seems to be a pain, and it's too slow to maintain a decent conversation,=20
so I never do. I guess this happens to others as well, because the folks=20
on the digest almost never participate. I suggest using email filters=20
instead. Subscribe to the digest only if you have a good technical=20
reason to do so.=20


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Thank you Violet, thank you Kim, thanks to everyone here. This has always
been my favorite list, of any kind, and the one from which the most
real-world friendships and musical delights have sprung.

most indebted,

Daryl Shawn
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Thank you Violet, thank you Kim, thanks to everyone here. This has always been my favorite list, of any kind, and the one from which the most real-world friendships and musical delights have sprung.<div><br></div><div>most indebted,<br>
<div><br></div><div>Daryl Shawn</div><div><a href="http://www.darylshawn.com">http://www.darylshawn.com</a></div></div>

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Here is the tentative schedule for the
Y2KX+1 International Live Looping Festival.

I've been training a really excellent staff of volunteers to run the 
festival this year
and feel really good about their involvement.

They include   Trevor McClain, Maha Taitano  and Steve Uccello.
My brother Bill will also be helping me out with housing and logistics 
as well.

Here's the schedule.............Trevor will be sending out the 
performance roster in a day or so
with some important announcements so watch for that.

thanks,   Rick Walker (executive producer)

***********************************
***********************************


*Y2KX+1 International Live Looping Festival*

Wednesday 12th   tentative booking at the ANNO DOMINI GALLERY, San Jose 
(NOT CONFIRMED AS OF YET)

Thursday 13th  8:00 to 10:00           '*Experimental Side of the Y2KX+1 
Live Looping Festival*'
*featuring  Andrea Centazzo (Italy),  Roberto Zorzi (Italy),  Nat Grant 
(Australia),  Rick Walker (United States) *
*Luggage Store Experimental Music Series,    San Francisco, California
*
main festival dates *October 14-17, 2011    Pearl Alley Studios,  Santa 
Cruz, California

*Friday 14th:  7:00 to midnight
Saturday 15th:   noon to 6:00
Saturday 15th    8:00 to midnight    "*HEADLINERS SHOW*"
Sunday 16th:  noon to 6:00  and 8:00 to midnight
Monday 17th:    1:00 p.m. *LOOPERS BRUNCH *Walnut Street Cafe



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    Here is the tentative schedule for the <br>
    Y2KX+1 International Live Looping Festival.<br>
    <br>
    I've been training a really excellent staff of volunteers to run the
    festival this year <br>
    and feel really good about their involvement.<br>
    <br>
    They include&nbsp;&nbsp; Trevor McClain, Maha Taitano&nbsp; and Steve Uccello.<br>
    My brother Bill will also be helping me out with housing and
    logistics as well.<br>
    <br>
    Here's the schedule.............Trevor will be sending out the
    performance roster in a day or so <br>
    with some important announcements so watch for that.<br>
    <br>
    thanks,&nbsp;&nbsp; Rick Walker (executive producer)<br>
    <br>
    ***********************************<br>
    ***********************************<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <b>Y2KX+1 International Live Looping Festival</b><br>
    <br>
    Wednesday 12th&nbsp;&nbsp; tentative booking at the ANNO DOMINI GALLERY, San
    Jose (NOT CONFIRMED AS OF YET)<br>
    <br>
    Thursday 13th&nbsp; 8:00 to 10:00&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; '<b>Experimental Side of the
      Y2KX+1 Live Looping Festival</b>'&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
    <b><small>featuring&nbsp; Andrea Centazzo (Italy),&nbsp; Roberto Zorzi
        (Italy),&nbsp; Nat Grant (Australia),&nbsp; Rick Walker (United States) &nbsp;
      </small></b><br>
    <b>Luggage Store Experimental Music Series,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; San Francisco,
      California <br>
    </b><br>
    main festival dates&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <b>October 14-17, 2011&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Pearl Alley
      Studios,&nbsp; Santa Cruz, California<br>
      <br>
    </b>Friday 14th:&nbsp; 7:00 to midnight&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
    Saturday 15th: &nbsp; noon to 6:00&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
    Saturday 15th&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 8:00 to midnight &nbsp;&nbsp; "<b>HEADLINERS SHOW</b>"&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
    Sunday 16th:&nbsp; noon to 6:00&nbsp; and 8:00 to midnight<br>
    Monday 17th:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1:00 p.m.&nbsp;&nbsp; <b>LOOPERS BRUNCH&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </b>Walnut Street
    Cafe<br>
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=A0=0AYes, a hale and hearty thanks to Kim, Violet and so many others for s=
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 saves people. It ain't got nothin to do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. I=
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edicated domain name back then, and were=0Arunning around trying to learn h=
ow to use the mailing list software and put=0Aa webpage up and get word out=
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ou will all join me in raising a glass to=0AKim today.=A0 He is desperately=
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Thank you, Violet and HAPPY BIRTHDAY LD. Also thanks to everyone inlolved in 
the list, and thoughts of Kim, who I never knew, but for whom I'm sure we 
are all full of gratitude.

Love to you all, and best wishes for the next 15 years of looping!

Steve

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Violet Xoxox" <violet@missviolet.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 9:58 PM
Subject: Happy 15th, Looper's Delight!


> On this date, September 1st, fifteen years ago, Looper's Delight was
> launched.  We didn't even have a dedicated domain name back then, and were
> running around trying to learn how to use the mailing list software and 
> put
> a webpage up and get word out to people.  Somehow, it worked.
>
> Happy, happy, joy, joy!  I hope you will all join me in raising a glass to
> Kim today.  He is desperately missed, but he will always be with us in
> spirit.
>
> Onward and upward! :)
>
> Violet
> xoxox
> 

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Happy Birthday LD!  A great service and a great community!

Many thanks to Kim -- someone I never met.  His contributions to the  
Looping Community live on!

-- Kevin

Quoting Violet Xoxox <violet@missviolet.com>:

> On this date, September 1st, fifteen years ago, Looper's Delight was
> launched.  We didn't even have a dedicated domain name back then, and were
> running around trying to learn how to use the mailing list software and put
> a webpage up and get word out to people.  Somehow, it worked.
>
> Happy, happy, joy, joy!  I hope you will all join me in raising a glass to
> Kim today.  He is desperately missed, but he will always be with us in
> spirit.
>
> Onward and upward! :)
>
> Violet
> xoxox
>
>



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Rick,

Go to the archives and do a search by email address.

What should turn up is all of the posts that the person with that =
address ever participated in - in chronological order.

The earliest one may not be the exact actual date that subscription =
occurred.

But it will be close.

Hope this helps.

Ted

On Sep 1, 2011, at 6:58 PM, Rick Walker wrote:

> Is there a place where the information resides to discover when
> we originally decided to sign up here at Loopers Delight?
>=20
> I was reminiscing when I read of it's birthday and my memory is not =
very good
> for dates.
>=20
> I'm just curious.
>=20
> Rick Walker

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Either only subscribe to the digest, or better, unsubscribe entirely  
if you are going to be such a vindictive dick about it.  No one else  
on the LD list shares your "complaint". Sheesh.

-Rev. Fever.


On Sep 2, 2011, at 5:31 AM, Woyvel Loyce wrote:

> I'm "Replying to all" for every loopers delight email I get until  
> someone can tell me how to stop receiving an email for every post  
> on the site.  I've sent email requests to LD and there has been no  
> response.  So my only recourse now is to fill everyone else's inbox  
> the way mine is being filled until someone can help me.
>
>
> From: Reyn Ouwehand <loopers-delight@reyn.net>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Sent: Friday, September 2, 2011 6:10 AM
> Subject: Re: Soundtracks
>
> Thanks Bill! :-)
>
> On Sep 2, 2011, at 6:01 AM, William Walker wrote:
>
>> Diggin'  it
>>  Bill
>>
>> A bit of topic maybe, but I thought some of you might be interested:
>>
>> This is music I did for movies throughout the years and finally  
>> put them in one website:
>>
>> http://www.reyn.net/soundtracks
>>
>> Enjoy,
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Reyn.
>>
>
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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">
Either only subscribe to the digest, or better, unsubscribe entirely if =
you are going to be such a vindictive dick about it. &nbsp;No one else =
on the LD list shares your "complaint". Sheesh.<div><br></div><div>-Rev. =
Fever.<br><div><br><div><br><div><div>On Sep 2, 2011, at 5:31 AM, Woyvel =
Loyce wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; =
font-family:times new roman, new york, times, =
serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>I'm "Replying to all" for every loopers =
delight email I get until someone can tell me how to stop receiving an =
email for every post on the site.&nbsp; I've sent email requests to LD =
and there has been no response.&nbsp; So my only recourse now is to fill =
everyone else's inbox the way mine is being filled until someone can =
help me.</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><br></div><div =
style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; =
font-size: 12pt;"><div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, =
times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><hr =
size=3D"1"><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Reyn =
Ouwehand &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:loopers-delight@reyn.net">loopers-delight@reyn.net</a>&gt;<=
br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com</a><br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: =
bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, September 2, 2011 6:10 AM<br><b><span =
style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: =
Soundtracks<br></font><br><div id=3D"yiv1444631359"><div>Thanks Bill! =
:-)</div><br><div><div>On Sep 2, 2011, at 6:01 AM, William Walker =
wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"yiv1444631359Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word;">Diggin' =
&nbsp;it<div>&nbsp;Bill</div><div><br></div><div><span =
class=3D"yiv1444631359Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family:arial, =
sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><font class=3D"yiv1444631359Apple-style-span" =
color=3D"#8400eb">A bit of topic maybe, but I thought some of you might =
be interested:</font></span><div style=3D"font-family:arial, =
sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><font class=3D"yiv1444631359Apple-style-span" =
color=3D"#8400eb"><br></font></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial, =
sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><font class=3D"yiv1444631359Apple-style-span" =
color=3D"#8400eb">This is music I did for movies throughout the years =
and finally put them in one website:</font></div><div =
style=3D"font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><br></div><div =
style=3D"font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><span =
class=3D"yiv1444631359Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family:tahoma, =
verdana, arial, sans-serif;font-size:11px;line-height:14px;"><a =
rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"http://www.reyn.net/soundtracks" =
style=3D"cursor:pointer;color:rgb(59, 89, =
152);text-decoration:underline;"><span>http://www.reyn.net/soundtrack</spa=
n><span class=3D"yiv1444631359word_break" =
style=3D"display:block;float:left;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;paddin=
g-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;"></span>s</a></span></div><div =
style=3D"font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><br></div><div =
style=3D"font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><font =
class=3D"yiv1444631359Apple-style-span" =
color=3D"#8400eb">Enjoy,</font></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial, =
sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><font class=3D"yiv1444631359Apple-style-span" =
color=3D"#8400eb"><br></font></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial, =
sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><font class=3D"yiv1444631359Apple-style-span" =
color=3D"#8400eb">Cheers,</font></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial, =
sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><font class=3D"yiv1444631359Apple-style-span" =
color=3D"#8400eb"><br></font></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial, =
sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><font class=3D"yiv1444631359Apple-style-span" =
color=3D"#8400eb">Reyn.</font></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial, =
sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br><=
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Wow=2C=20

thats amazing=2C I have never joined another mailing list before or since..=
.but this one suits me perfectly.
Happy Birthday

> Date: Fri=2C 2 Sep 2011 09:47:41 -0500
> From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: Happy 15th=2C Looper's Delight!
>=20
> Happy Birthday LD!  A great service and a great community!
>=20
> Many thanks to Kim -- someone I never met.  His contributions to the =20
> Looping Community live on!
>=20
> -- Kevin
>=20
> Quoting Violet Xoxox <violet@missviolet.com>:
>=20
> > On this date=2C September 1st=2C fifteen years ago=2C Looper's Delight =
was
> > launched.  We didn't even have a dedicated domain name back then=2C and=
 were
> > running around trying to learn how to use the mailing list software and=
 put
> > a webpage up and get word out to people.  Somehow=2C it worked.
> >
> > Happy=2C happy=2C joy=2C joy!  I hope you will all join me in raising a=
 glass to
> > Kim today.  He is desperately missed=2C but he will always be with us i=
n
> > spirit.
> >
> > Onward and upward! :)
> >
> > Violet
> > xoxox
> >
> >
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Wow=2C <br><br>thats amazing=2C I have never joined another mailing list be=
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div>&gt=3B Date: Fri=2C 2 Sep 2011 09:47:41 -0500<br>&gt=3B From: kkissinge=
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=3B Many thanks to Kim -- someone I never met.  His contributions to the  <=
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Happy Birthday LD! When I got my first computer in '97 I had just become
interested
in looping through Fripp/Belew/Torn, etc. This was one of the first place's
I found on the web
and yes it rocked my world and changed everything :)

I wear my Kim Flint shirt proudly, miss you Kim!

Thank you LD and thank you Violet for keeping it going!

peace,

Jeff

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Violet Xoxox <violet@missviolet.com> wrote:

> On this date, September 1st, fifteen years ago, Looper's Delight was
> launched.  We didn't even have a dedicated domain name back then, and were
> running around trying to learn how to use the mailing list software and put
> a webpage up and get word out to people.  Somehow, it worked.
>
> Happy, happy, joy, joy!  I hope you will all join me in raising a glass to
> Kim today.  He is desperately missed, but he will always be with us in
> spirit.
>
> Onward and upward! :)
>
> Violet
> xoxox
>
>

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Happy Birthday LD! When I got my first computer in &#39;97 I had just becom=
e interested <br>in looping through Fripp/Belew/Torn, etc. This was one of =
the first place&#39;s I found on the web <br>and yes it rocked my world and=
 changed everything :) <br>
<br>I wear my Kim Flint shirt proudly, miss you Kim!<br><br>Thank you LD an=
d thank you Violet for keeping it going!<br><br>peace,<br><br>Jeff<br><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Violet Xoxox <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:violet@missviolet.com">violet@missviole=
t.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">On this date, Sep=
tember 1st, fifteen years ago, Looper&#39;s Delight was<br>
launched. =A0We didn&#39;t even have a dedicated domain name back then, and=
 were<br>
running around trying to learn how to use the mailing list software and put=
<br>
a webpage up and get word out to people. =A0Somehow, it worked.<br>
<br>
Happy, happy, joy, joy! =A0I hope you will all join me in raising a glass t=
o<br>
Kim today. =A0He is desperately missed, but he will always be with us in<br=
>
spirit.<br>
<br>
Onward and upward! :)<br>
<br>
Violet<br>
<font color=3D"#888888">xoxox<br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br>

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Yup, still wearing (out) my various LD t-shirts . . .
I was using a Lexicon Jamman as best as I could in 2000 when I discovered
this resource--had been dabbling with digital delays since the early 80's
(Deltalab!) and had seen Steve Morse do a clinic with a souped up PCM 42
(Steve is listed on Bob Sellon's page here)
http://www.stecrecords.com/?RecordId=452
Had a chance to meet Kim at a loopfest (he sang along to my looped version
of Under the Boardwalk) and discussed our mutual friend Harvey Starr, the
Ztar guy.
Thanks to all, and especially Violet, here's to Kim and his vision!


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Yeah it's all written out on the website itself. Not that hard to
accomplish.

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Revfever <revfever@ubergadget.com> wrote:

> Either only subscribe to the digest, or better, unsubscribe entirely if you
> are going to be such a vindictive dick about it.  No one else on the LD list
> shares your "complaint". Sheesh.
>
> -Rev. Fever.
>
>
>
> On Sep 2, 2011, at 5:31 AM, Woyvel Loyce wrote:
>
> I'm "Replying to all" for every loopers delight email I get until someone
> can tell me how to stop receiving an email for every post on the site.  I've
> sent email requests to LD and there has been no response.  So my only
> recourse now is to fill everyone else's inbox the way mine is being filled
> until someone can help me.
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Reyn Ouwehand <loopers-delight@reyn.net>
> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> *Sent:* Friday, September 2, 2011 6:10 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Soundtracks
>
> Thanks Bill! :-)
>
> On Sep 2, 2011, at 6:01 AM, William Walker wrote:
>
> Diggin'  it
>  Bill
>
> A bit of topic maybe, but I thought some of you might be interested:
>
> This is music I did for movies throughout the years and finally put them in
> one website:
>
> http://www.reyn.net/soundtracks
>
> Enjoy,
>
> Cheers,
>
> Reyn.
>
>
>
>
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Yeah it&#39;s all written out on the website itself. Not that hard to accom=
plish.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 11:34 AM, R=
evfever <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:revfever@ubergadget.com">re=
vfever@ubergadget.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">
Either only subscribe to the digest, or better, unsubscribe entirely if you=
 are going to be such a vindictive dick about it. =A0No one else on the LD =
list shares your &quot;complaint&quot;. Sheesh.<div><br></div><div>-Rev. Fe=
ver.<div>
<div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br><div><br><div><br><div><div>On Sep 2, 2011=
, at 5:31 AM, Woyvel Loyce wrote:</div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div s=
tyle=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:times new roman, new y=
ork, times, serif;font-size:12pt">
<div><span>I&#39;m &quot;Replying to all&quot; for every loopers delight em=
ail I get until someone can tell me how to stop receiving an email for ever=
y post on the site.=A0 I&#39;ve sent email requests to LD and there has bee=
n no response.=A0 So my only recourse now is to fill everyone else&#39;s in=
box the way mine is being filled until someone can help me.</span></div>
<div><span><br></span></div><div><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:times =
new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style=3D"font-family=
:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><font face=3D"Aria=
l" size=3D"2"><hr size=3D"1">
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Reyn Ouwehand &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:loopers-delight@reyn.net" target=3D"_blank">loopers-delight@r=
eyn.net</a>&gt;<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank">Loopers=
-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, September 2, 2=
011 6:10 AM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: =
Soundtracks<br></font><br><div><div>Thanks Bill! :-)</div><br><div><div>On =
Sep 2, 2011, at 6:01 AM, William Walker wrote:</div>
<br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">Diggin&#3=
9; =A0it<div>=A0Bill</div><div><br></div><div><span style=3D"font-family:ar=
ial, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><font color=3D"#8400eb">A bit of topic mayb=
e, but I thought some of you might be interested:</font></span><div style=
=3D"font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<font color=3D"#8400eb"><br></font></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial, s=
ans-serif;font-size:13px"><font color=3D"#8400eb">This is music I did for m=
ovies throughout the years and finally put them in one website:</font></div=
><div style=3D"font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<br></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span=
 style=3D"font-family:tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;font-size:11px;lin=
e-height:14px"><a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"http://www.reyn.net/soundtracks"=
 style=3D"color:rgb(59, 89, 152);text-decoration:underline" target=3D"_blan=
k"><span>http://www.reyn.net/soundtrack</span><span style=3D"display:block;=
float:left;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-lef=
t:0px"></span>s</a></span></div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></div><div =
style=3D"font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><font color=3D"#8400=
eb">Enjoy,</font></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-siz=
e:13px">
<font color=3D"#8400eb"><br></font></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial, s=
ans-serif;font-size:13px"><font color=3D"#8400eb">Cheers,</font></div><div =
style=3D"font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><font color=3D"#8400=
eb"><br>
</font></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><f=
ont color=3D"#8400eb">Reyn.</font></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial, sa=
ns-serif;font-size:13px"><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div=
><br>
<br></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div></div>=
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Hey Reyn,

How come you don't have these up on itunes, tracks like these should be
getting played on the ambient and electronic radio programs like Hearts of
Space, Echoes, and more.

Cheers. Jeffrey



------------------------------
>> *From:* Reyn Ouwehand <loopers-delight@reyn.net>
>> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> *Sent:* Friday, September 2, 2011 6:10 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: Soundtracks
>>
>> Thanks Bill! :-)
>>
>> On Sep 2, 2011, at 6:01 AM, William Walker wrote:
>>
>> Diggin'  it
>>  Bill
>>
>> A bit of topic maybe, but I thought some of you might be interested:
>>
>> This is music I did for movies throughout the years and finally put them
>> in one website:
>>
>> http://www.reyn.net/soundtracks
>>
>> Enjoy,
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Reyn.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

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Hey=A0<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: Arial; backgro=
und-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">Reyn,</span><div><br></div><div>How come y=
ou don&#39;t have these up on itunes, tracks like these should be getting p=
layed on the ambient and electronic radio programs like Hearts of Space, Ec=
hoes, and more.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Cheers. Jeffrey<br><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote">
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div><di=
v><div><div><div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"color:#000;ba=
ckground-color:#fff;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;fon=
t-size:12pt">
<div style=3D"font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size=
:12pt"><div style=3D"font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;fo=
nt-size:12pt"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><hr size=3D"1">
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Reyn Ouwehand &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:loopers-delight@reyn.net" target=3D"_blank">loopers-delight@r=
eyn.net</a>&gt;<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank">Loopers=
-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br>

<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, September 2, 2=
011 6:10 AM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: =
Soundtracks<br></font><br><div><div>Thanks Bill! :-)</div><br><div><div>On =
Sep 2, 2011, at 6:01 AM, William Walker wrote:</div>

<br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">Diggin&#3=
9; =A0it<div>=A0Bill</div><div><br></div><div><span style=3D"font-family:ar=
ial, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><font color=3D"#8400eb">A bit of topic mayb=
e, but I thought some of you might be interested:</font></span><div style=
=3D"font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px">

<font color=3D"#8400eb"><br></font></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial, s=
ans-serif;font-size:13px"><font color=3D"#8400eb">This is music I did for m=
ovies throughout the years and finally put them in one website:</font></div=
>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<br></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span=
 style=3D"font-family:tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;font-size:11px;lin=
e-height:14px"><a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"http://www.reyn.net/soundtracks"=
 style=3D"color:rgb(59, 89, 152);text-decoration:underline" target=3D"_blan=
k"><span>http://www.reyn.net/soundtrack</span><span style=3D"display:block;=
float:left;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-lef=
t:0px"></span>s</a></span></div>

<div style=3D"font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></div><div =
style=3D"font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><font color=3D"#8400=
eb">Enjoy,</font></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-siz=
e:13px">

<font color=3D"#8400eb"><br></font></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial, s=
ans-serif;font-size:13px"><font color=3D"#8400eb">Cheers,</font></div><div =
style=3D"font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><font color=3D"#8400=
eb"><br>

</font></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><f=
ont color=3D"#8400eb">Reyn.</font></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial, sa=
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>
<br>
<br></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div></div>=
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Hooray!

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

> **
> Here is the tentative schedule for the
> Y2KX+1 International Live Looping Festival.
>
> I've been training a really excellent staff of volunteers to run the
> festival this year
> and feel really good about their involvement.
>
> They include   Trevor McClain, Maha Taitano  and Steve Uccello.
> My brother Bill will also be helping me out with housing and logistics as
> well.
>
> Here's the schedule.............Trevor will be sending out the performance
> roster in a day or so
> with some important announcements so watch for that.
>
> thanks,   Rick Walker (executive producer)
>
> ***********************************
> ***********************************
>
>
> *Y2KX+1 International Live Looping Festival*
>
> Wednesday 12th   tentative booking at the ANNO DOMINI GALLERY, San Jose
> (NOT CONFIRMED AS OF YET)
>
> Thursday 13th  8:00 to 10:00           '*Experimental Side of the Y2KX+1
> Live Looping Festival*'
> *featuring  Andrea Centazzo (Italy),  Roberto Zorzi (Italy),  Nat Grant
> (Australia),  Rick Walker (United States)   *
> *Luggage Store Experimental Music Series,    San Francisco, California
> *
> main festival dates      *October 14-17, 2011    Pearl Alley Studios,
> Santa Cruz, California
>
> *Friday 14th:  7:00 to midnight
> Saturday 15th:   noon to 6:00
> Saturday 15th    8:00 to midnight    "*HEADLINERS SHOW*"
> Sunday 16th:  noon to 6:00  and 8:00 to midnight
> Monday 17th:    1:00 p.m.   *LOOPERS BRUNCH    *Walnut Street Cafe
>
>
>

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Hooray!<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 7:03 AM, R=
ick Walker <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:looppool@cruzio.com">loo=
ppool@cruzio.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
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<u></u>

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    Here is the tentative schedule for the <br>
    Y2KX+1 International Live Looping Festival.<br>
    <br>
    I&#39;ve been training a really excellent staff of volunteers to run th=
e
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    <br>
    They include=A0=A0 Trevor McClain, Maha Taitano=A0 and Steve Uccello.<b=
r>
    My brother Bill will also be helping me out with housing and
    logistics as well.<br>
    <br>
    Here&#39;s the schedule.............Trevor will be sending out the
    performance roster in a day or so <br>
    with some important announcements so watch for that.<br>
    <br>
    thanks,=A0=A0 Rick Walker (executive producer)<br>
    <br>
    ***********************************<br>
    ***********************************<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <b>Y2KX+1 International Live Looping Festival</b><br>
    <br>
    Wednesday 12th=A0=A0 tentative booking at the ANNO DOMINI GALLERY, San
    Jose (NOT CONFIRMED AS OF YET)<br>
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perimental Side of the
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=A0
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    <b>Luggage Store Experimental Music Series,=A0=A0=A0 San Francisco,
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l Alley
      Studios,=A0 Santa Cruz, California<br>
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    Saturday 15th=A0=A0=A0 8:00 to midnight =A0=A0 &quot;<b>HEADLINERS SHOW=
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    Sunday 16th:=A0 noon to 6:00=A0 and 8:00 to midnight<br>
    Monday 17th:=A0=A0=A0 1:00 p.m.=A0=A0 <b>LOOPERS BRUNCH=A0=A0=A0 </b>Wa=
lnut Street
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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, tEd ź KiLLiAn wrote:
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>
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thanks,  brilliant, talented, grumpy old man!!!!!

love, Rick

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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Jeff Duke wrote:
>
> I wear my Kim Flint shirt proudly, miss you Kim!
yeppers,   I wore mine to Goth night last week with great pride!

rick

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Interestingly enough I get ZERO matches, though I thought I joined up 
in the 1990s...

any other tips?

>Rick,
>
>Go to the archives and do a search by email address.
>
>What should turn up is all of the posts that the person with that 
>address ever participated in - in chronological order.
>
>The earliest one may not be the exact actual date that subscription occurred.
>
>But it will be close.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>Ted
>
>On Sep 1, 2011, at 6:58 PM, Rick Walker wrote:
>
>>  Is there a place where the information resides to discover when
>>  we originally decided to sign up here at Loopers Delight?
>>
>>  I was reminiscing when I read of it's birthday and my memory is 
>>not very good
>>  for dates.
>>
>>  I'm just curious.
>>
>>  Rick Walker


-- 

...
http://www.zmix.net

http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky

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Something odd is up. I searched for "tony" and got nothing.

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net>wrote:

> Interestingly enough I get ZERO matches, though I thought I joined up in
> the 1990s...
>
> any other tips?
>
>
>  Rick,
>>
>> Go to the archives and do a search by email address.
>>
>> What should turn up is all of the posts that the person with that address
>> ever participated in - in chronological order.
>>
>> The earliest one may not be the exact actual date that subscription
>> occurred.
>>
>> But it will be close.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Ted
>>
>> On Sep 1, 2011, at 6:58 PM, Rick Walker wrote:
>>
>>   Is there a place where the information resides to discover when
>>>  we originally decided to sign up here at Loopers Delight?
>>>
>>>  I was reminiscing when I read of it's birthday and my memory is not very
>>> good
>>>  for dates.
>>>
>>>  I'm just curious.
>>>
>>>  Rick Walker
>>>
>>
>
> --
>
> ...
> http://www.zmix.net
>
> http://www.esession.com/**ChuckZwicky<http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky>
>
> http://albumcredits.com/zmix
>
>


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Something odd is up. I searched for &quot;tony&quot; and got nothing.<br><b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Charles Zwicky=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cazwicky@earthlink.net">cazwicky@e=
arthlink.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Interestingly enough I get ZERO matches, th=
ough I thought I joined up in the 1990s...<br>
<br>
any other tips?<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Rick,<br>
<br>
Go to the archives and do a search by email address.<br>
<br>
What should turn up is all of the posts that the person with that address e=
ver participated in - in chronological order.<br>
<br>
The earliest one may not be the exact actual date that subscription occurre=
d.<br>
<br>
But it will be close.<br>
<br>
Hope this helps.<br>
<br>
Ted<br>
<br>
On Sep 1, 2011, at 6:58 PM, Rick Walker wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
=A0Is there a place where the information resides to discover when<br>
=A0we originally decided to sign up here at Loopers Delight?<br>
<br>
=A0I was reminiscing when I read of it&#39;s birthday and my memory is not =
very good<br>
=A0for dates.<br>
<br>
=A0I&#39;m just curious.<br>
<br>
=A0Rick Walker<br>
</blockquote></blockquote>
<br>
<br></div></div><font color=3D"#888888">
-- <br>
<br>
...<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.zmix.net" target=3D"_blank">http://www.zmix.net</a><b=
r>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky" target=3D"_blank">http://ww=
w.esession.com/<u></u>ChuckZwicky</a><br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://albumcredits.com/zmix" target=3D"_blank">http://albumcred=
its.com/zmix</a><br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>-=3D=3D-=3D-=3D-=
 <br>Tony<br>

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thought it would be easiest to buy a replacement power cord. The replacemen=
t looked pretty much identical so I decided to it in=2C switched the voltag=
e on the EDP to 230 and then switched it on=2C all my outlets blew.=20
so I was wondering if anyone can help me with this? I'm thinking it must be=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I just purchased the EDP and as I got from america and I l=
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d. The replacement looked pretty much identical so I decided to it in=2C sw=
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ght it from said it was working fine before he sent it. Is it possible to j=
ust plug adapter and use the american lead?<div><br></div><div>Cheers</div>=
<div>James</div></div></div>
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It should be James, it should be.. check for a short in the plug?

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:03 PM, james leight <jleight881@hotmail.co.uk>wrote:

>  I just purchased the EDP and as I got from america and I live in england
> I thought it would be easiest to buy a replacement power cord. The
> replacement looked pretty much identical so I decided to it in, switched the
> voltage on the EDP to 230 and then switched it on, all my outlets blew.
>
> so I was wondering if anyone can help me with this? I'm thinking it must be
> the lead because the guy I bought it from said it was working fine before he
> sent it. Is it possible to just plug adapter and use the american lead?
>
> Cheers
> James
>



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<div><div dir=3D"ltr">




<div dir=3D"ltr">I just purchased the EDP and as I got from america and I l=
ive in england I thought it would be easiest to buy a replacement power cor=
d. The replacement looked pretty much identical so I decided to it in, swit=
ched the voltage on the EDP to 230 and then switched it on, all my outlets =
blew.=A0<div>

<br></div><div>so I was wondering if anyone can help me with this?=A0I&#39;=
m thinking it must be the lead because the guy I bought it from said it was=
 working fine before he sent it. Is it possible to just plug adapter and us=
e the american lead?<div>

<br></div><div>Cheers</div><div>James</div></div></div>
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Well=2C the only you can do to the plug is take the fuse out theres no way =
to get into the plug without mangling it up. Its a 5a fuse.

From: mark@markfrancombe.com
Date: Fri=2C 2 Sep 2011 21:12:39 +0200
Subject: Re: EDP Powering problem.
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

It should be James=2C it should be.. check for a short in the plug?

On Fri=2C Sep 2=2C 2011 at 9:03 PM=2C james leight <jleight881@hotmail.co.u=
k> wrote:











I just purchased the EDP and as I got from america and I live in england I =
thought it would be easiest to buy a replacement power cord. The replacemen=
t looked pretty much identical so I decided to it in=2C switched the voltag=
e on the EDP to 230 and then switched it on=2C all my outlets blew.=20


so I was wondering if anyone can help me with this? I'm thinking it must be=
 the lead because the guy I bought it from said it was working fine before =
he sent it. Is it possible to just plug adapter and use the american lead?


CheersJames
 		 	   		 =20


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1 21:12:39 +0200<br>Subject: Re: EDP Powering problem.<br>To: Loopers-Delig=
ht@loopers-delight.com<br><br>It should be James=2C it should be.. check fo=
r a short in the plug?<br><br><div class=3D"ecxgmail_quote">On Fri=2C Sep 2=
=2C 2011 at 9:03 PM=2C james leight <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=3B<a href=3D"mail=
to:jleight881@hotmail.co.uk">jleight881@hotmail.co.uk</a>&gt=3B</span> wrot=
e:<br>

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padding-left:1ex">



<div><div dir=3D"ltr">




<div dir=3D"ltr">I just purchased the EDP and as I got from america and I l=
ive in england I thought it would be easiest to buy a replacement power cor=
d. The replacement looked pretty much identical so I decided to it in=2C sw=
itched the voltage on the EDP to 230 and then switched it on=2C all my outl=
ets blew.&nbsp=3B<div>

<br></div><div>so I was wondering if anyone can help me with this?&nbsp=3BI=
'm thinking it must be the lead because the guy I bought it from said it wa=
s working fine before he sent it. Is it possible to just plug adapter and u=
se the american lead?<div>

<br></div><div>Cheers</div><div>James</div></div></div>
 		 	   		  </div></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><i style=3D"font-family=
:verdana=2Csans-serif=3Bcolor:rgb(255=2C 255=2C 255)=3Bbackground-color:rgb=
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http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/110901.html

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem,
PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet.  WDIY also broadcasts
in Digital HD at 88.1 FM.

                 Show #752                September 1, 2011.

RECAP:
On this show, I began a month-long focus on Robert Carty.  The Featured
CD at Midnight was "Sonic Magic" on Space for Music Records.
Robert Carty: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#sep

I also played music by Modulator ESP who will perform at the Soundscapes
Concert Series on Sunday, September 4.  See the events page for details.
Events: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/events.html


PLAYLIST:

11:04 pm
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Kevin Braheny        Starflight 1 *       Galaxies (Hearts of Space)
Alpha Wave Movement  Sweeping the Soniq   Soniq Variants (HRR)
                        Spectrum
Paul Nagle           Erksome              Beyond E-Ville (none)
Paul Nagle           Dirkness             Beyond E-Ville (none)
Conrad Schnitzler    CYR                  Minced Valves (Ricochet Dream)
   with Steve Schroyder and Patrick Gresbek
Steve Rose           The Diminishing Day  The Diminishing Day (none)
Modulator ESP        The Unknowing *      The Unknowing (none)

12:00 am
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Robert Carty         Sounding Into Life   Sonic Magic (Space for Music)
Robert Carty         Sonic Being          Sonic Magic (Space for Music)
Robert Carty         Currents             Sonic Magic (Space for Music)
Robert Carty         Soundworlds          Sonic Magic (Space for Music)
Robert Carty         Beautiful Waves      Sonic Magic (Space for Music)
Robert Carty         Sonic Magic          Sonic Magic (Space for Music)

1:00 am

  * = excerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
++ = Advance CDR from Artist
-- = Background music under interview


NEXT SHOW:
On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on Robert
Carty.  The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Oceanic Space" on Deep Sky
Music.

Bill
========================================================================
Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show,
Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in
Trexlertown and Fogelsville.  WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio
on 88.1 FM.
Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info
Listen to WDIY on-line.

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Crap - I hate to rain on the parade, but nobody ever talked to me about
Luggage Store bookings for this year's looping festival. We have other acts
scheduled on October 13th.

I love supporting the festival, but by the time I found it it was actually
happening this year, that evening was already booked.


-- 
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusic.com
Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com
Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

> **
> Here is the tentative schedule for the
> Y2KX+1 International Live Looping Festival.
>
> I've been training a really excellent staff of volunteers to run the
> festival this year
> and feel really good about their involvement.
>
> They include   Trevor McClain, Maha Taitano  and Steve Uccello.
> My brother Bill will also be helping me out with housing and logistics as
> well.
>
> Here's the schedule.............Trevor will be sending out the performance
> roster in a day or so
> with some important announcements so watch for that.
>
> thanks,   Rick Walker (executive producer)
>
> ***********************************
> ***********************************
>
>
> *Y2KX+1 International Live Looping Festival*
>
> Wednesday 12th   tentative booking at the ANNO DOMINI GALLERY, San Jose
> (NOT CONFIRMED AS OF YET)
>
> Thursday 13th  8:00 to 10:00           '*Experimental Side of the Y2KX+1
> Live Looping Festival*'
> *featuring  Andrea Centazzo (Italy),  Roberto Zorzi (Italy),  Nat Grant
> (Australia),  Rick Walker (United States)   *
> *Luggage Store Experimental Music Series,    San Francisco, California
> *
> main festival dates      *October 14-17, 2011    Pearl Alley Studios,
> Santa Cruz, California
>
> *Friday 14th:  7:00 to midnight
> Saturday 15th:   noon to 6:00
> Saturday 15th    8:00 to midnight    "*HEADLINERS SHOW*"
> Sunday 16th:  noon to 6:00  and 8:00 to midnight
> Monday 17th:    1:00 p.m.   *LOOPERS BRUNCH    *Walnut Street Cafe
>
>
>

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Crap - I hate to rain on the parade, but nobody ever talked to me about Lug=
gage Store bookings for this year&#39;s looping festival. We have other act=
s scheduled on October 13th. <br><br>I love supporting the festival, but by=
 the time I found it it was actually happening this year, that evening was =
already booked. <br>
<br><br>-- <br>Matt Davignon<br><a href=3D"mailto:mattdavignon@gmail.com" t=
arget=3D"_blank">mattdavignon@gmail.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.riboso=
memusic.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.ribosomemusic.com</a><br>Podcast! <a hr=
ef=3D"http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://ribosome=
matt.podomatic.com</a><br>
Rigs! <a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt" target=3D"_blank=
">http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt</a><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote">On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Rick Walker <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:looppool@cruzio.com">looppool@cruzio.com</a>&gt;</span> wrot=
e:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><u></u>

 =20

   =20
 =20
  <div text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
    Here is the tentative schedule for the <br>
    Y2KX+1 International Live Looping Festival.<br>
    <br>
    I&#39;ve been training a really excellent staff of volunteers to run th=
e
    festival this year <br>
    and feel really good about their involvement.<br>
    <br>
    They include=A0=A0 Trevor McClain, Maha Taitano=A0 and Steve Uccello.<b=
r>
    My brother Bill will also be helping me out with housing and
    logistics as well.<br>
    <br>
    Here&#39;s the schedule.............Trevor will be sending out the
    performance roster in a day or so <br>
    with some important announcements so watch for that.<br>
    <br>
    thanks,=A0=A0 Rick Walker (executive producer)<br>
    <br>
    ***********************************<br>
    ***********************************<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <b>Y2KX+1 International Live Looping Festival</b><br>
    <br>
    Wednesday 12th=A0=A0 tentative booking at the ANNO DOMINI GALLERY, San
    Jose (NOT CONFIRMED AS OF YET)<br>
    <br>
    Thursday 13th=A0 8:00 to 10:00=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 &#39;<b>Ex=
perimental Side of the
      Y2KX+1 Live Looping Festival</b>&#39;=A0=A0 <br>
    <b><small>featuring=A0 Andrea Centazzo (Italy),=A0 Roberto Zorzi
        (Italy),=A0 Nat Grant (Australia),=A0 Rick Walker (United States) =
=A0
      </small></b><br>
    <b>Luggage Store Experimental Music Series,=A0=A0=A0 San Francisco,
      California <br>
    </b><br>
    main festival dates=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 <b>October 14-17, 2011=A0=A0=A0 Pear=
l Alley
      Studios,=A0 Santa Cruz, California<br>
      <br>
    </b>Friday 14th:=A0 7:00 to midnight=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 <br>
    Saturday 15th: =A0 noon to 6:00=A0=A0=A0 <br>
    Saturday 15th=A0=A0=A0 8:00 to midnight =A0=A0 &quot;<b>HEADLINERS SHOW=
</b>&quot;=A0 =A0=A0 <br>
    Sunday 16th:=A0 noon to 6:00=A0 and 8:00 to midnight<br>
    Monday 17th:=A0=A0=A0 1:00 p.m.=A0=A0 <b>LOOPERS BRUNCH=A0=A0=A0 </b>Wa=
lnut Street
    Cafe<br>
    <br>
    <br>
  </div>

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...and just think of the nice helpful response he would've received if his
email said, "Excuse me kind ladies and sirs, but I'm trying to figure out
how to get off this list."

But, if I was a list administrator and someone pulled the kind of behavior
as below, I'd build a new list just for him, and have it send an
auto-response everytime he sends a response. Once he learned to end his
temper tantrum, he'd never hear from the list again.

But anyway, yeah - welcome to the internet. We have email forums here.
Generally they're even easier to quit than they are to join - as long as yo=
u
actually read the instructions. If you can't find the instructions, do a
search for the list email address on Google, and it will usually be one of
the first 3 pages that comes up.

--=20
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusic.com
Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com
Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt


> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Mich=E8le Moser" <michelemoser@arcor.de>
> *To: *"Woyvel Loyce" <woyvel@yahoo.com>
> *Cc: *Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> *Sent: *Friday, September 2, 2011 8:56:37 AM
> *Subject: *Notice for dorks - LD-Digest
>
>
> I really hate people holding others responsible for their own ignorance.
> You in fact never asked directly on LD, I'm sure the guys here would
> have helped.
> Never heard of the term "digest"?
> Stop this!
> ... Hope there is someone able to ban him, from list and digest.
>
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D from FAQ on
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>
> Is there a Digest form of LD? How do I receive it?
>
> Yes, there is a digest. To subscribe, send mail with the word
> "subscribe" in both the subject and body, and no sig files or anything
> else, to:
>
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> You would then want to unsubscribe from the normal list, so send
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> Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com
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> For posting, make sure you send to the normal
> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com address, or nobody will see it.
> Personally, I hate digest lists. I never get around to reading them
> because they arrive in one big, imposing lump. Replying to posts always
> seems to be a pain, and it's too slow to maintain a decent conversation,
> so I never do. I guess this happens to others as well, because the folks
> on the digest almost never participate. I suggest using email filters
> instead. Subscribe to the digest only if you have a good technical
> reason to do so.
>
>

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...and just think of the nice helpful response he would&#39;ve received if =
his email said, &quot;Excuse me kind ladies and sirs, but I&#39;m trying to=
 figure out how to get off this list.&quot;<br><br>But, if I was a list adm=
inistrator and someone pulled the kind of behavior as below, I&#39;d build =
a new list just for him, and have it send an auto-response everytime he sen=
ds a response. Once he learned to end his temper tantrum, he&#39;d never he=
ar from the list again. <br>
<br>But anyway, yeah - welcome to the internet. We have email forums here. =
Generally they&#39;re even easier to quit than they are to join - as long a=
s you actually read the instructions. If you can&#39;t find the instruction=
s, do a search for the list email address on Google, and it will usually be=
 one of the first 3 pages that comes up. <br>
<br>-- <br>Matt Davignon<br><a href=3D"mailto:mattdavignon@gmail.com" targe=
t=3D"_blank">mattdavignon@gmail.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.ribosomemu=
sic.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.ribosomemusic.com</a><br>Podcast! <a href=
=3D"http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://ribosomema=
tt.podomatic.com</a><br>
Rigs! <a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt" target=3D"_blank=
">http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt</a><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;=
 border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0)=
;"><br><hr><b>From: </b>&quot;Mich=E8le Moser&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:m=
ichelemoser@arcor.de" target=3D"_blank">michelemoser@arcor.de</a>&gt;<br><b=
>To: </b>&quot;Woyvel Loyce&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:woyvel@yahoo.com" t=
arget=3D"_blank">woyvel@yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D=
"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, Se=
ptember 2, 2011 8:56:37 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Notice for dorks - LD-Digest<=
div>
<div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br>I really hate people holding others re=
sponsible for their own ignorance.<br>You in fact never asked directly on L=
D, I&#39;m sure the guys here would<br>have helped.<br>Never heard of the t=
erm &quot;digest&quot;?<br>
Stop this!<br>... Hope there is someone able to ban him, from list and dige=
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hi james. i had the same problem with the edp when i first got it from the
US. i live in malaysia and we run the same voltage as the UK (230-240) But
i'm thankful because the guys here at LD helped a total noob like me to make
it run. i did not put my edp in use for quite sometime until i'm sure that
i'm using the right cables..even learning how to flick the voltage switch at
the back :P . i used a cable marked with the voltage 2.5A 250V~ (a regular
computer power cable which i snatched from my pc) and voila! the edp was
alive. I'm sorry i can't help you with the blown fuse but i'm sure it's
fixable.

i googled my old posts and it did bring some memories of how nice people in
this list can be. sorry to butt in.

Best,

On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 3:34 AM, james leight <jleight881@hotmail.co.uk>wrote:

>  Well, the only you can do to the plug is take the fuse out theres no way
> to get into the plug without mangling it up. Its a 5a fuse.
>
> ------------------------------
> From: mark@markfrancombe.com
> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 21:12:39 +0200
> Subject: Re: EDP Powering problem.
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
>
> It should be James, it should be.. check for a short in the plug?
>
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:03 PM, james leight <jleight881@hotmail.co.uk>wrote:
>
>  I just purchased the EDP and as I got from america and I live in england
> I thought it would be easiest to buy a replacement power cord. The
> replacement looked pretty much identical so I decided to it in, switched the
> voltage on the EDP to 230 and then switched it on, all my outlets blew.
>
> so I was wondering if anyone can help me with this? I'm thinking it must be
> the lead because the guy I bought it from said it was working fine before he
> sent it. Is it possible to just plug adapter and use the american lead?
>
> Cheers
> James
>
>
>
>
> --
> *Mark Francombe*
> www.markfrancombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no
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hi james. i had the same problem with the edp when i first got it from the =
US. i live in malaysia and we run the same voltage as the UK (230-240) But =
i&#39;m thankful because the guys here at LD helped a total noob like me to=
 make it run. i did not put my edp in use for quite sometime until i&#39;m =
sure that i&#39;m using the right cables..even learning how to flick the vo=
ltage switch at the back :P . i used a cable marked with the voltage 2.5A 2=
50V~ (a regular computer power cable which i snatched from my pc) and voila=
! the edp was alive. I&#39;m sorry i can&#39;t help you with the blown fuse=
 but i&#39;m sure it&#39;s fixable.<div>
<br></div><div>i googled my old posts and it did bring some memories of how=
 nice people in this list can be. sorry to butt in.</div><div><br></div><di=
v>Best,<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 3:34 AM, j=
ames leight <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jleight881@hotmail.co.u=
k">jleight881@hotmail.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">



<div><div dir=3D"ltr">
Well, the only you can do to the plug is take the fuse out theres no way to=
 get into the plug without mangling it up. Its a 5a fuse.<br><br><div><hr>F=
rom: <a href=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com" target=3D"_blank">mark@markf=
rancombe.com</a><br>
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 21:12:39 +0200<br>Subject: Re: EDP Powering problem.<=
br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_bl=
ank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><div><div></div><div class=3D"h=
5">
<br><br>It should be James, it should be.. check for a short in the plug?<b=
r><br><div>On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:03 PM, james leight <span dir=3D"ltr">&=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jleight881@hotmail.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">jleight881=
@hotmail.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>


<blockquote style=3D"border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



<div><div dir=3D"ltr">




<div dir=3D"ltr">I just purchased the EDP and as I got from america and I l=
ive in england I thought it would be easiest to buy a replacement power cor=
d. The replacement looked pretty much identical so I decided to it in, swit=
ched the voltage on the EDP to 230 and then switched it on, all my outlets =
blew.=A0<div>


<br></div><div>so I was wondering if anyone can help me with this?=A0I&#39;=
m thinking it must be the lead because the guy I bought it from said it was=
 working fine before he sent it. Is it possible to just plug adapter and us=
e the american lead?<div>


<br></div><div>Cheers</div><div>James</div></div></div>
 		 	   		  </div></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><i style=3D"font-family=
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r:rgb(51, 0, 51)"><a style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" href=3D"http://www.ordo=
abkhao.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br style=3D"color:rgb=
(51, 0, 51)">


<a style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" targ=
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51)"><a style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" href=3D"http://www.looop.no/" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.looop.no</a><br>


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Ahh 2.5A 250V~ mines 10A 250V~ don't know if this is the actual problem bec=
ause the lead that came with it reads 10A 250V~ but I might go and look for=
 another lead anyway. =20
It's lucky my house has a safety switch when things like this happen =3D]

Cheers for your help halim

Date: Sat=2C 3 Sep 2011 06:07:48 +0800
Subject: Re: EDP Powering problem.
From: halimzainal@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

hi james. i had the same problem with the edp when i first got it from the =
US. i live in malaysia and we run the same voltage as the UK (230-240) But =
i'm thankful because the guys here at LD helped a total noob like me to mak=
e it run. i did not put my edp in use for quite sometime until i'm sure tha=
t i'm using the right cables..even learning how to flick the voltage switch=
 at the back :P . i used a cable marked with the voltage 2.5A 250V~ (a regu=
lar computer power cable which i snatched from my pc) and voila! the edp wa=
s alive. I'm sorry i can't help you with the blown fuse but i'm sure it's f=
ixable.

i googled my old posts and it did bring some memories of how nice people in=
 this list can be. sorry to butt in.
Best=2C

On Sat=2C Sep 3=2C 2011 at 3:34 AM=2C james leight <jleight881@hotmail.co.u=
k> wrote:






Well=2C the only you can do to the plug is take the fuse out theres no way =
to get into the plug without mangling it up. Its a 5a fuse.

From: mark@markfrancombe.com

Date: Fri=2C 2 Sep 2011 21:12:39 +0200
Subject: Re: EDP Powering problem.
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com


It should be James=2C it should be.. check for a short in the plug?

On Fri=2C Sep 2=2C 2011 at 9:03 PM=2C james leight <jleight881@hotmail.co.u=
k> wrote:












I just purchased the EDP and as I got from america and I live in england I =
thought it would be easiest to buy a replacement power cord. The replacemen=
t looked pretty much identical so I decided to it in=2C switched the voltag=
e on the EDP to 230 and then switched it on=2C all my outlets blew.=20



so I was wondering if anyone can help me with this? I'm thinking it must be=
 the lead because the guy I bought it from said it was working fine before =
he sent it. Is it possible to just plug adapter and use the american lead?



CheersJames
 		 	   		 =20


--=20
Mark Francombe



www.markfrancombe.comwww.ordoabkhao.com


http://vimeo.com/user825094http://www.looop.no



twitter @markfrancombe
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<font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">Ahh 2.5A 250V~ =
mines 10A 250V~ don't know if this is the actual problem because the lead t=
hat came with it reads 10A 250V~ but I might go and look for another lead a=
nyway. &nbsp=3B</font><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma"=
 size=3D"2"><br></font><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma=
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happen =3D]</font><br><div style=3D"font-family: Tahoma=3B font-size: 10pt=
=3B "><br></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=
=3D"2">Cheers for your help halim</font><br><br><div style=3D"font-family: =
Tahoma=3B font-size: 10pt=3B "><hr id=3D"stopSpelling">Date: Sat=2C 3 Sep 2=
011 06:07:48 +0800<br>Subject: Re: EDP Powering problem.<br>From: halimzain=
al@gmail.com<br>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br><br>hi james. i =
had the same problem with the edp when i first got it from the US. i live i=
n malaysia and we run the same voltage as the UK (230-240) But i'm thankful=
 because the guys here at LD helped a total noob like me to make it run. i =
did not put my edp in use for quite sometime until i'm sure that i'm using =
the right cables..even learning how to flick the voltage switch at the back=
 :P . i used a cable marked with the voltage 2.5A 250V~ (a regular computer=
 power cable which i snatched from my pc) and voila! the edp was alive. I'm=
 sorry i can't help you with the blown fuse but i'm sure it's fixable.<div>
<br></div><div>i googled my old posts and it did bring some memories of how=
 nice people in this list can be. sorry to butt in.</div><div><br></div><di=
v>Best=2C<br><br><div class=3D"ecxgmail_quote">On Sat=2C Sep 3=2C 2011 at 3=
:34 AM=2C james leight <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=3B<a href=3D"mailto:jleight881=
@hotmail.co.uk">jleight881@hotmail.co.uk</a>&gt=3B</span> wrote:<br>
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padding-left:1ex">



<div><div dir=3D"ltr">
Well=2C the only you can do to the plug is take the fuse out theres no way =
to get into the plug without mangling it up. Its a 5a fuse.<br><br><div><hr=
>From: <a href=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>=
<br>
Date: Fri=2C 2 Sep 2011 21:12:39 +0200<br>Subject: Re: EDP Powering problem=
.<br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Del=
ight@loopers-delight.com</a><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">
<br><br>It should be James=2C it should be.. check for a short in the plug?=
<br><br><div>On Fri=2C Sep 2=2C 2011 at 9:03 PM=2C james leight <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt=3B<a href=3D"mailto:jleight881@hotmail.co.uk">jleight881@hotma=
il.co.uk</a>&gt=3B</span> wrote:<br>


<blockquote style=3D"border-left:1px #ccc solid=3Bpadding-left:1ex">



<div><div dir=3D"ltr">




<div dir=3D"ltr">I just purchased the EDP and as I got from america and I l=
ive in england I thought it would be easiest to buy a replacement power cor=
d. The replacement looked pretty much identical so I decided to it in=2C sw=
itched the voltage on the EDP to 230 and then switched it on=2C all my outl=
ets blew.&nbsp=3B<div>


<br></div><div>so I was wondering if anyone can help me with this?&nbsp=3BI=
'm thinking it must be the lead because the guy I bought it from said it wa=
s working fine before he sent it. Is it possible to just plug adapter and u=
se the american lead?<div>


<br></div><div>Cheers</div><div>James</div></div></div>
 		 	   		  </div></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><i style=3D"font-family=
:verdana=2Csans-serif=3Bcolor:rgb(255=2C 255=2C 255)=3Bbackground-color:rgb=
(0=2C 0=2C 0)"><font style=3D"font-family:trebuchet ms=2Csans-serif" size=
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A Happy 15th indeed!  So many talented, creative people held together =
over all this time thanks to Kim, and now Violet.  Thanks to those =
present, and sadly, absent...

From: Fabio_A=20
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 1:24 PM
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I loop your words, Simeon !
>From when I subscribed in 2004 it hasn't been the same for me also.
Many thanks to Violet for having LD alive and kicking !

-fabio
www.eterogeneo.com


2011/9/2 Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com>

  On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 2:54 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> =
wrote:
  This website and this community irrevocably changed the shape of my
  artistic life.


  i'm with rick and michael on this. the internet has changed our lives
  in ways we couldn't have imagined, some better and some worse, but
  this simple little mailing list, which seems so anachronistic in this
  day and age, has done more to influence my musical growth and
  direction than almost anything else i can think of. it's connected me
  with so many amazing, generous and knowledgeable people, that
  expressing my gratitude here, in text form, as an email, hardly seems
  adequate....
  thanks to all of you and especially kim for his vision and violet for
  her strength.

  sim



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Just went to the site, and I'm listening to "Aftiteling." Really
wonderful music.

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Reyn Ouwehand <loopers-delight@reyn.net> wrote:
> A bit of topic maybe, but I thought some of you might be interested:
> This is music I did for movies throughout the years and finally put them in
> one website:
> http://www.reyn.net/soundtracks
> Enjoy,
> Cheers,
> Reyn.
>
>



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Sunday, September 4, the Soundscapes Concert Series returns to the 
Nazareth Center for the Arts with Modulator ESP of the UK.

Modulator Experimental Synthesis Project, a.k.a. Modulator ESP, performs 
improvised music that explores the boundaries of dark ambient, drone, 
Berlin School sequencing, and noise using modular synthesis, real-time 
sampling, sound manipulation, and live looping.  Eschewing playing along 
to pre-programmed, structured backing tracks, Modulator ESP prefers 
something a bit more freeform.  This is the revelation he had upon 
discovering bands like Arc, RMI, Redshift, Airsculpture, and Arcane who 
were doing a retro-styled improvisational take on EM.

Modulator ESP has been described variously as "vintage synth overload to 
propel you into the outer reaches of the cosmos" and "one man will 
descend to (this) earth in a hail of analogue synth tones; called upon 
from the singular consciousness of John Carpenter and Vangelis - like a 
2046 dystopian dream with the optimism of Jean Michael Jarre and his 
penguins."

Modulator ESP loves playing synths because of the electronic, synthetic, 
other worldly nature of the sounds. This makes Ambient, Berlin School EM 
the best style for his interests. He plans to stretch the boundaries by 
incorporating some of his progressive influences.

Doors open at 7:30 pm and the concert is at 8:00 pm. The concert is 
free. Donations are requested to support the musician and to enable the 
Nazareth Center for the Arts to pay operating expenses. The NCA is 
located at 30 Belvidere Street, Nazareth, PA 18064 just off of Route 191 
on the southwest corner of Belvidere Street and South Spruce Street. 
Check the NCA site for parking information.

The Soundscapes Concert Series is the concert companion to the Galactic 
Travels radio program on WDIY-FM and to Thought Radio on WMUH-FM and 
presents electronic music to the Lehigh Valley.

Bill Fox
http://soundscapes.us

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Rottweiler is really nice too!

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just went to the site, and I'm listening to "Aftiteling." Really
> wonderful music.
>
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Reyn Ouwehand <loopers-delight@reyn.net> wrote:
>> A bit of topic maybe, but I thought some of you might be interested:
>> This is music I did for movies throughout the years and finally put them in
>> one website:
>> http://www.reyn.net/soundtracks
>> Enjoy,
>> Cheers,
>> Reyn.
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Art Simon
> simart@gmail.com
> myspace [dot] com/artsimon
>



-- 
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simart@gmail.com
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That would be awesome, but they never got commercially released =
sadly....

Cheers,

Reyn

On Sep 2, 2011, at 7:46 PM, Jeffrey Collins wrote:

> Hey Reyn,
>=20
> How come you don't have these up on itunes, tracks like these should =
be getting played on the ambient and electronic radio programs like =
Hearts of Space, Echoes, and more.
>=20
> Cheers. Jeffrey
>=20
>=20
>=20
>> From: Reyn Ouwehand <loopers-delight@reyn.net>
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> Sent: Friday, September 2, 2011 6:10 AM
>> Subject: Re: Soundtracks
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>> Thanks Bill! :-)
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>> On Sep 2, 2011, at 6:01 AM, William Walker wrote:
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>>> Diggin'  it
>>>  Bill
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them in one website:
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<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>That would be awesome, but they never got commercially released sadly....</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>Reyn</div><br><div><div>On Sep 2, 2011, at 7:46 PM, Jeffrey Collins wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Hey&nbsp;<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">Reyn,</span><div><br></div><div>How come you don't have these up on itunes, tracks like these should be getting played on the ambient and electronic radio programs like Hearts of Space, Echoes, and more.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Cheers. Jeffrey<br><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="gmail_quote">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><div><div><div><div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Reyn Ouwehand &lt;<a href="mailto:loopers-delight@reyn.net" target="_blank">loopers-delight@reyn.net</a>&gt;<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target="_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br>

<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, September 2, 2011 6:10 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: Soundtracks<br></font><br><div><div>Thanks Bill! :-)</div><br><div><div>On Sep 2, 2011, at 6:01 AM, William Walker wrote:</div>

<br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Diggin' &nbsp;it<div>&nbsp;Bill</div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><font color="#8400eb">A bit of topic maybe, but I thought some of you might be interested:</font></span><div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px">

<font color="#8400eb"><br></font></div><div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><font color="#8400eb">This is music I did for movies throughout the years and finally put them in one website:</font></div>
<div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<br></div><div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;font-size:11px;line-height:14px"><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.reyn.net/soundtracks" style="color:rgb(59, 89, 152);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span>http://www.reyn.net/soundtrack</span><span style="display:block;float:left;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px"></span>s</a></span></div>

<div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><font color="#8400eb">Enjoy,</font></div><div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px">

<font color="#8400eb"><br></font></div><div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><font color="#8400eb">Cheers,</font></div><div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><font color="#8400eb"><br>

</font></div><div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><font color="#8400eb">Reyn.</font></div><div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
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Thanks Art! :-)

R.

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>>> Cheers,
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On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Gareth Whittock
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> Anyone using this pedal here guys? It looks on paper even better than my
> wonderful M13..
> Opinions?


Got no opinion of my own from hands-on experience but I had a good
impression of this device from discussions at the Stick forum, where
some guys use it. For a stickist it offers two parallel audio inputs
with individual processing of both fretboards, which is hard to find.
the HD500 is also said to offer great sounding tone and effects and I
have no reason for not believing that since Line 6 has made well
sounding units in the past (I was an early adopter of the Pod 1 here).

If for some reasons computers would not be allowed I would look
closely at the HD500 ;-)
(very comfy here with MBP + RME FF400 and will stay with that)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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that would be interesting really, is there a sine up log, Violet?

one can search the archive for the first contribution
your first one I see is "the use of  Loop.pooL" of 26 September 2000, =
Rick
and at loopstock 2001 we were blown away by your performance which was =
not only musically ripe but also fascinating, visually beautiful and fun =
and entertaining!
:-)

On 1 Sep 2011, at 22:58, Rick Walker wrote:

> Is there a place where the information resides to discover when
> we originally decided to sign up here at Loopers Delight?
>=20
> I was reminiscing when I read of it's birthday and my memory is not =
very good
> for dates.
>=20
> I'm just curious.
>=20
> Rick Walker
>=20

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Hi, I have used the HD500 in some occasions, since a friend of mine has it and 
I was called to program some patches for him. 
It doesn't have parallel chains of effects, therefore it can't be used to 
(say) amplify the bass part of a stick/warr guitar with a bass amp simulation 
and the high part of the stick/warr with a guitar amp. I find it (apart from 
the couple of effects, harmonizer and looper) to be a bit less versatile then 
the older Pod X3. 
Currently I decided not to switch from the X3 to the HD500 (and I have both 
the X3 pro and the X3 Live), because I need it for both guitar, bass and Warr. 
Some of the amp simulations are a bit better in dynamics then the ones in the 
X3, but there are only 16 instead of more than a hundred. Only guitar 
simulations in there, non mic pres(at least I couldn't find the 
neve/avalon/trident simulations that were in the X3 series), no phantom power.

Just an opinion based on my various tries of the product.

Luigi Meloni

>----Messaggio originale----
>Da: perboysen@gmail.com
>Data: 03/09/2011 12.29
>A: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>Ogg: Re: pod HD500 line6
>
>On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Gareth Whittock
><buddhamachine@live.co.uk> wrote:
>> Anyone using this pedal here guys? It looks on paper even better than my
>> wonderful M13..
>> Opinions?
>
>
>Got no opinion of my own from hands-on experience but I had a good
>impression of this device from discussions at the Stick forum, where
>some guys use it. For a stickist it offers two parallel audio inputs
>with individual processing of both fretboards, which is hard to find.
>the HD500 is also said to offer great sounding tone and effects and I
>have no reason for not believing that since Line 6 has made well
>sounding units in the past (I was an early adopter of the Pod 1 here).
>
>If for some reasons computers would not be allowed I would look
>closely at the HD500 ;-)
>(very comfy here with MBP + RME FF400 and will stay with that)
>
>Greetings from Sweden
>
>Per Boysen
>www.boysen.se
>www.perboysen.com
>www.looproom.com internet music hub
>
>


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hi james. no worries. one thing i forgot to tell ya. an electrical engineer
once told me awhile back that when a 2.5A 250V~ plug is used when there's
electrical surges, more likely it'll burn your plugs' fuse. but if a 10A
250~ is used and there electrical surges, it'll blow you rack unit. well i
can't be 100% sure on that as i'm no engineer.

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I guess its way beyond 'me too', so I guess this is a loop

On this LD Birthday occasion, I challenge all of you who have warm fuzzies about LD to pop over to the LD site and click the PayPal link on the top right, or even the 'donation subscription' link at the bottom.

Somebody has gotta pay the piper (for the hosting, and gasp even a long overdue website update)    I recall with surprise getting personal thank you notes from Kim for my occasional trifling donations over the years, I'm sure you'll feel his thanks from the beyond even still.

http://www.loopers-delight.com/

As one of the many lurkers under various addy's on this list since the beginning, I am very grateful to Kim and now Violet and especially to every poster all these years who have shared their knowledge and enthusiasm and opinions, even the cantankerous few. (its been a pleasure to see how civility and good vibes rules here, wow)

I just kicked in a few more gratitude bucks, I hope you will too!

Rob
Seattle

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http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2011/110903.html

The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts.  When I am
at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear
electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix
of other genres.  The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EDT/GMT-4 on
WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet.  I also host Afterglow
every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am.
http://soundscapes.us/afterglow/index.html

                 Show #206                September 3, 2011.

On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music
magazine.  Each contemporary issue comes with a CD.  However, the early
issues came with a cassette.  The cassettes from issues one through
thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic
slip covers with artwork and track details.  Details are at:
http://sequencesmagazine.com

On this program, I played music by Modulator ESP who will play at the
Soundscapes Concert Series on Sunday, September 4, at 8:00 pm.
http://soundscapes.us


Phase I/Space:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Modulator ESP        (excerpt)            EMS VCS3 Experiment 1 (none)
VA [David Wright     Whomthe Bell         Sequences No. 15
  and Robert Fox]
VA [Alquimia]        Wings of Perception  Sequences No. 15
VA [Tony Gunning]    Butterfly Tales      Sequences No. 15
Gert Emmens          Part 19              The Nearest Faw Away Place
                                             Vol. 3 (Groove)
Alpha Wave Movement  Sustained            Soniq Variants (HRR)
                        Environment


Phase II/Eclectic:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Mark P. Adler        Empty Heart          Summer All Over Again (Quark)
B. Wren and F. Ralls Winter Solstice 2012 A Journey Around the Sun(none)
B. Wren and F. Ralls Between Heaven and   A Journey Around the Sun(none)
                        Earth
B. Wren and F. Ralls Water and Flame      A Journey Around the Sun(none)
B. Wren and F. Ralls Journey Around the   A Journey Around the Sun(none)
                        Sun


Phase III/Progressive Rock:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Pink Floyd           Cluster One          The Division Bell (Columbia)
Pink Floyd           What Do You Want     The Division Bell (Columbia)
                        From Me
Pink Floyd           Poles Apart          The Division Bell (Columbia)
3rdegree             The World In Which We Lived 2011 (single)
Ozone Player and     Accidental           Long-Range Influence (Visual
   Matt Howarth         Terrestrial          Power)
                        Intervention
Ben Craven           Solace               Great & Terrible Potions
                                             (Desert Comb)
Ben Craven           Nobody Dies Forever  Great & Terrible Potions
                                             (Desert Comb)
Ben Craven           Great & Terrible     Great & Terrible Potions
                        Potions              (Desert Comb)


  * = excerpt
++ = Advanced CDR from artist
VA = Various Artists (compilation)

On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that
come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine.  I will
also play music by some of the musicins who will perform at the
Soundscapes Concert Series on Sunday, October 2, at 8:00 pm.
http://soundscapes.us

Bill Fox
========================================================================
Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every
other Saturday at 6:00 am EDT/GMT-4.
Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music.
Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age.
Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases.
Website - http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio
Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line.

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Done. I've gladly contributed. Thanx for the reminder, Rob.  I rarely  
see the website itself so therefore forgot about the donation option.

Cheerios-
Rev. Fever
Portland,OR
http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever

On Sep 3, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Rob Campbell wrote:

> I guess its way beyond 'me too', so I guess this is a loop
>
> On this LD Birthday occasion, I challenge all of you who have warm  
> fuzzies about LD to pop over to the LD site and click the PayPal  
> link on the top right, or even the 'donation subscription' link at  
> the bottom.
>
> Somebody has gotta pay the piper (for the hosting, and gasp even a  
> long overdue website update)    I recall with surprise getting  
> personal thank you notes from Kim for my occasional trifling  
> donations over the years, I'm sure you'll feel his thanks from the  
> beyond even still.
>
> http://www.loopers-delight.com/
>
> As one of the many lurkers under various addy's on this list since  
> the beginning, I am very grateful to Kim and now Violet and  
> especially to every poster all these years who have shared their  
> knowledge and enthusiasm and opinions, even the cantankerous few.  
> (its been a pleasure to see how civility and good vibes rules here,  
> wow)
>
> I just kicked in a few more gratitude bucks, I hope you will too!
>
> Rob
> Seattle
>

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Well, I made my trifling donation. Thank you loopers delight! You've
certainly helped facilitate my music more than any of those 3 and 4
digit equipment purchases I've made during the last 15 years. Thanks
to Rick, Bill, Jeff, Per, and everyone who has so generously donated
their time, energy, spirit and enthusiasm. And cheers to Kim, who
always answered my newbie emails politely and helped me wrap my head
around the edp.

On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Revfever <revfever@ubergadget.com> wrote:
> Done. I've gladly contributed. Thanx for the reminder, Rob. =A0I rarely s=
ee
> the website itself so therefore forgot about the donation option.
>
> Cheerios-
> Rev. Fever
> Portland,OR
> http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever
>
> On Sep 3, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Rob Campbell wrote:
>
>> I guess its way beyond 'me too', so I guess this is a loop
>>
>> On this LD Birthday occasion, I challenge all of you who have warm fuzzi=
es
>> about LD to pop over to the LD site and click the PayPal link on the top
>> right, or even the 'donation subscription' link at the bottom.
>>
>> Somebody has gotta pay the piper (for the hosting, and gasp even a long
>> overdue website update) =A0 =A0I recall with surprise getting personal t=
hank you
>> notes from Kim for my occasional trifling donations over the years, I'm =
sure
>> you'll feel his thanks from the beyond even still.
>>
>> http://www.loopers-delight.com/
>>
>> As one of the many lurkers under various addy's on this list since the
>> beginning, I am very grateful to Kim and now Violet and especially to ev=
ery
>> poster all these years who have shared their knowledge and enthusiasm an=
d
>> opinions, even the cantankerous few. (its been a pleasure to see how
>> civility and good vibes rules here, wow)
>>
>> I just kicked in a few more gratitude bucks, I hope you will too!
>>
>> Rob
>> Seattle
>>
>
>



--=20
Art Simon
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myspace [dot] com/artsimon

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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Matthias Grob wrote:
> one can search the archive for the first contribution
> your first one I see is "the use of  Loop.pooL" of 26 September 2000, Rick
> and at loopstock 2001 we were blown away by your performance which was not only musically ripe but also fascinating, visually beautiful and fun and entertaining!
> :-)
Thanks so much for your generosity,  Matthias!

love, rick

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On 2 Sep 2011, at 19:46, james leight wrote:

> Ahh 2.5A 250V~ mines 10A 250V~ don't know if this is the actual =
problem because the lead that came with it reads 10A 250V~ but I might =
go and look for another lead anyway. =20

thats not the problem
if one was only 130V it would theoretically be possible to create a =
short circuit when loaded with 230V but very unlikely
the current through the EDP is far below 2A anyway, so if there was a =
fault in it, the internal fuse would blow, exept if there is a short =
cirquit right at its power socket.

the safety switch reacts to much smaller currents that "run away" so if =
only this switches off, there may be a insulation problem in the EDP, =
maybe even a cap between power input and ground which is too big for =
your safety switch.

first test would be whether the power cable itself makes the fuse blow
>=20
> It's lucky my house has a safety switch when things like this happen =
=3D]
>=20
> Cheers for your help halim
>=20
> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 06:07:48 +0800
> Subject: Re: EDP Powering problem.
> From: halimzainal@gmail.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=20
> hi james. i had the same problem with the edp when i first got it from =
the US. i live in malaysia and we run the same voltage as the UK =
(230-240) But i'm thankful because the guys here at LD helped a total =
noob like me to make it run. i did not put my edp in use for quite =
sometime until i'm sure that i'm using the right cables..even learning =
how to flick the voltage switch at the back :P . i used a cable marked =
with the voltage 2.5A 250V~ (a regular computer power cable which i =
snatched from my pc) and voila! the edp was alive. I'm sorry i can't =
help you with the blown fuse but i'm sure it's fixable.
>=20
> i googled my old posts and it did bring some memories of how nice =
people in this list can be. sorry to butt in.
>=20
> Best,
>=20
> On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 3:34 AM, james leight =
<jleight881@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> Well, the only you can do to the plug is take the fuse out theres no =
way to get into the plug without mangling it up. Its a 5a fuse.
>=20
> From: mark@markfrancombe.com
> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 21:12:39 +0200
> Subject: Re: EDP Powering problem.
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=20
>=20
> It should be James, it should be.. check for a short in the plug?
>=20
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:03 PM, james leight =
<jleight881@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> I just purchased the EDP and as I got from america and I live in =
england I thought it would be easiest to buy a replacement power cord. =
The replacement looked pretty much identical so I decided to it in, =
switched the voltage on the EDP to 230 and then switched it on, all my =
outlets blew.=20
>=20
> so I was wondering if anyone can help me with this? I'm thinking it =
must be the lead because the guy I bought it from said it was working =
fine before he sent it. Is it possible to just plug adapter and use the =
american lead?
>=20
> Cheers
> James
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> Mark Francombe
> www.markfrancombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no
> twitter @markfrancombe
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<html><head><base href=3D"x-msg://59/"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: =
break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On 2 Sep 2011, at 19:46, james leight =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: =
separate; font-family: Geneva; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; =
orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div =
class=3D"hmmessage" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; =
"><div dir=3D"ltr"><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" =
size=3D"2">Ahh 2.5A 250V~ mines 10A 250V~ don't know if this is the =
actual problem because the lead that came with it reads 10A 250V~ but I =
might go and look for another lead anyway. =
&nbsp;</font></div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div>thats not =
the problem</div><div>if one was only 130V it would theoretically be =
possible to create a short circuit when loaded with 230V but very =
unlikely</div><div>the current through the EDP is far below 2A anyway, =
so if there was a fault in it, the internal fuse would blow, exept if =
there is a short cirquit right at its power =
socket.</div><div><br></div><div>the safety switch reacts to much =
smaller currents that "run away" so if only this switches off, there may =
be a insulation problem in the EDP, maybe even a cap between power input =
and ground which is too big for your safety =
switch.</div><div><br></div><div>first test would be whether the power =
cable itself makes the fuse blow<br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; =
font-family: Geneva; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; =
orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div =
class=3D"hmmessage" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; =
"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" =
size=3D"2"><br></font><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">It's lucky my house has a safety switch when =
things like this happen =3D]</font><br><div style=3D"font-family: =
Tahoma; font-size: 10pt; "><br></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span"=
 face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">Cheers for your help =
halim</font><br><br><div style=3D"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10pt; =
"><hr id=3D"stopSpelling">Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 06:07:48 =
+0800<br>Subject: Re: EDP Powering problem.<br>From:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:halimzainal@gmail.com">halimzainal@gmail.com</a><br>To:<spa=
n class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com</a><br><br>hi james. i had the same problem with the edp =
when i first got it from the US. i live in malaysia and we run the same =
voltage as the UK (230-240) But i'm thankful because the guys here at LD =
helped a total noob like me to make it run. i did not put my edp in use =
for quite sometime until i'm sure that i'm using the right cables..even =
learning how to flick the voltage switch at the back :P . i used a cable =
marked with the voltage 2.5A 250V~ (a regular computer power cable which =
i snatched from my pc) and voila! the edp was alive. I'm sorry i can't =
help you with the blown fuse but i'm sure it's =
fixable.<div><br></div><div>i googled my old posts and it did bring some =
memories of how nice people in this list can be. sorry to butt =
in.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,<br><br><div class=3D"ecxgmail_quote">On=
 Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 3:34 AM, james leight<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jleight881@hotmail.co.uk">jleight881@hotmail.co.uk</a>&gt;<=
/span><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>wrote:<br><blockquote =
class=3D"ecxgmail_quote" style=3D"border-left-width: 1px; =
border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; =
padding-left: 1ex; "><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Well, the only you can do to =
the plug is take the fuse out theres no way to get into the plug without =
mangling it up. Its a 5a fuse.<br><br><div><hr>From:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com">mark@markfrancombe.com</a><br>Date:=
 Fri, 2 Sep 2011 21:12:39 +0200<br>Subject: Re: EDP Powering =
problem.<br>To:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com</a><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br>It should be =
James, it should be.. check for a short in the plug?<br><br><div>On Fri, =
Sep 2, 2011 at 9:03 PM, james leight<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jleight881@hotmail.co.uk">jleight881@hotmail.co.uk</a>&gt;<=
/span><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>wrote:<br><blockquote =
style=3D"border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); =
border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex; "><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div =
dir=3D"ltr">I just purchased the EDP and as I got from america and I =
live in england I thought it would be easiest to buy a replacement power =
cord. The replacement looked pretty much identical so I decided to it =
in, switched the voltage on the EDP to 230 and then switched it on, all =
my outlets blew.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>so I was wondering if anyone =
can help me with this?&nbsp;I'm thinking it must be the lead because the =
guy I bought it from said it was working fine before he sent it. Is it =
possible to just plug adapter and use the american =
lead?<div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div>James</div></div></div></div></d=
iv></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>--<span =
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0, 0); "><font size=3D"4" style=3D"font-family: 'trebuchet ms', =
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href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com/" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: =
rgb(51, 0, 51); ">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br style=3D"color: rgb(51, =
0, 51); "><a href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com/" target=3D"_blank" =
style=3D"color: rgb(51, 0, 51); ">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br =
style=3D"color: rgb(51, 0, 51); "><a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" =
target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: rgb(51, 0, 51); =
">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br style=3D"color: rgb(51, 0, 51); =
"><a href=3D"http://www.looop.no/" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: =
rgb(51, 0, 51); ">http://www.looop.no</a><br>twitter =
@markfrancombe</font><br></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div>=
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Sadly I can't test the cable with anything else because I don't have anythi=
ng that uses that type of cable unless theres another way to test it?
I was wondering if I could use an adapter with the american cable as the ec=
hoplex has its own voltage switch I shouldn't need a voltage converter shou=
ld I?
  =20

From: matilists@gmail.com
Subject: Re: EDP Powering problem.
Date: Sun=2C 4 Sep 2011 09:53:20 -0300
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com




On 2 Sep 2011=2C at 19:46=2C james leight wrote:Ahh 2.5A 250V~ mines 10A 25=
0V~ don't know if this is the actual problem because the lead that came wit=
h it reads 10A 250V~ but I might go and look for another lead anyway. =20
thats not the problemif one was only 130V it would theoretically be possibl=
e to create a short circuit when loaded with 230V but very unlikelythe curr=
ent through the EDP is far below 2A anyway=2C so if there was a fault in it=
=2C the internal fuse would blow=2C exept if there is a short cirquit right=
 at its power socket.
the safety switch reacts to much smaller currents that "run away" so if onl=
y this switches off=2C there may be a insulation problem in the EDP=2C mayb=
e even a cap between power input and ground which is too big for your safet=
y switch.
first test would be whether the power cable itself makes the fuse blow

It's lucky my house has a safety switch when things like this happen =3D]

Cheers for your help halim

Date: Sat=2C 3 Sep 2011 06:07:48 +0800
Subject: Re: EDP Powering problem.
From: halimzainal@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

hi james. i had the same problem with the edp when i first got it from the =
US. i live in malaysia and we run the same voltage as the UK (230-240) But =
i'm thankful because the guys here at LD helped a total noob like me to mak=
e it run. i did not put my edp in use for quite sometime until i'm sure tha=
t i'm using the right cables..even learning how to flick the voltage switch=
 at the back :P . i used a cable marked with the voltage 2.5A 250V~ (a regu=
lar computer power cable which i snatched from my pc) and voila! the edp wa=
s alive. I'm sorry i can't help you with the blown fuse but i'm sure it's f=
ixable.
i googled my old posts and it did bring some memories of how nice people in=
 this list can be. sorry to butt in.
Best=2C

On Sat=2C Sep 3=2C 2011 at 3:34 AM=2C james leight <jleight881@hotmail.co.u=
k> wrote:
Well=2C the only you can do to the plug is take the fuse out theres no way =
to get into the plug without mangling it up. Its a 5a fuse.

From: mark@markfrancombe.com
Date: Fri=2C 2 Sep 2011 21:12:39 +0200
Subject: Re: EDP Powering problem.
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

It should be James=2C it should be.. check for a short in the plug?

On Fri=2C Sep 2=2C 2011 at 9:03 PM=2C james leight <jleight881@hotmail.co.u=
k> wrote:
I just purchased the EDP and as I got from america and I live in england I =
thought it would be easiest to buy a replacement power cord. The replacemen=
t looked pretty much identical so I decided to it in=2C switched the voltag=
e on the EDP to 230 and then switched it on=2C all my outlets blew.=20
so I was wondering if anyone can help me with this? I'm thinking it must be=
 the lead because the guy I bought it from said it was working fine before =
he sent it. Is it possible to just plug adapter and use the american lead?
CheersJames

--=20
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www.markfrancombe.comwww.ordoabkhao.comhttp://vimeo.com/user825094http://ww=
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Sadly I can't test the cable with anything else because I don't have anythi=
ng that uses that type of cable unless theres another way to test it?<div><=
br></div><div>I was wondering if I could use an adapter with the american c=
able as the echoplex has its own voltage switch I shouldn't need a voltage =
converter should I?</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B<br><b=
r><div><hr id=3D"stopSpelling">From: matilists@gmail.com<br>Subject: Re: ED=
P Powering problem.<br>Date: Sun=2C 4 Sep 2011 09:53:20 -0300<br>To: Looper=
s-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br><br>
<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html=3B charset=3Dunicode=
">
<meta name=3D"Generator" content=3D"Microsoft SafeHTML"><br><div><div>On 2 =
Sep 2011=2C at 19:46=2C james leight wrote:</div><br class=3D"ecxApple-inte=
rchange-newline"><blockquote><span class=3D"ecxApple-style-span" style=3D"b=
order-collapse:separate=3Bfont-family:Geneva=3Bfont-style:normal=3Bfont-var=
iant:normal=3Bfont-weight:normal=3Bletter-spacing:normal=3Bline-height:norm=
al=3Borphans:2=3Btext-align:-webkit-auto=3Btext-indent:0px=3Btext-transform=
:none=3Bwhite-space:normal=3Bwidows:2=3Bword-spacing:0px=3Bfont-size:medium=
"><div class=3D"ecxhmmessage" style=3D"font-size:10pt=3Bfont-family:Tahoma"=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><font class=3D"ecxApple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=
=3D"2">Ahh 2.5A 250V~ mines 10A 250V~ don't know if this is the actual prob=
lem because the lead that came with it reads 10A 250V~ but I might go and l=
ook for another lead anyway. &nbsp=3B</font></div></div></span></blockquote=
><div><br></div>thats not the problem</div><div>if one was only 130V it wou=
ld theoretically be possible to create a short circuit when loaded with 230=
V but very unlikely</div><div>the current through the EDP is far below 2A a=
nyway=2C so if there was a fault in it=2C the internal fuse would blow=2C e=
xept if there is a short cirquit right at its power socket.</div><div><br><=
/div><div>the safety switch reacts to much smaller currents that "run away"=
 so if only this switches off=2C there may be a insulation problem in the E=
DP=2C maybe even a cap between power input and ground which is too big for =
your safety switch.</div><div><br></div><div>first test would be whether th=
e power cable itself makes the fuse blow<br><blockquote><span class=3D"ecxA=
pple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse:separate=3Bfont-family:Geneva=3Bf=
ont-style:normal=3Bfont-variant:normal=3Bfont-weight:normal=3Bletter-spacin=
g:normal=3Bline-height:normal=3Borphans:2=3Btext-align:-webkit-auto=3Btext-=
indent:0px=3Btext-transform:none=3Bwhite-space:normal=3Bwidows:2=3Bword-spa=
cing:0px=3Bfont-size:medium"><div class=3D"ecxhmmessage" style=3D"font-size=
:10pt=3Bfont-family:Tahoma"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><font class=3D"ecxApple-s=
tyle-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><br></font><div><font class=3D"ecxApp=
le-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">It's lucky my house has a safety =
switch when things like this happen =3D]</font><br><div style=3D"font-famil=
y:Tahoma=3Bfont-size:10pt"><br></div><div><font class=3D"ecxApple-style-spa=
n" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">Cheers for your help halim</font><br><br><div=
 style=3D"font-family:Tahoma=3Bfont-size:10pt"><hr id=3D"ecxstopSpelling">D=
ate: Sat=2C 3 Sep 2011 06:07:48 +0800<br>Subject: Re: EDP Powering problem.=
<br>From:<span class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space">&nbsp=3B</span><a href=3D=
"mailto:halimzainal@gmail.com">halimzainal@gmail.com</a><br>To:<span class=
=3D"ecxApple-converted-space">&nbsp=3B</span><a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Deli=
ght@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br><br>hi =
james. i had the same problem with the edp when i first got it from the US.=
 i live in malaysia and we run the same voltage as the UK (230-240) But i'm=
 thankful because the guys here at LD helped a total noob like me to make i=
t run. i did not put my edp in use for quite sometime until i'm sure that i=
'm using the right cables..even learning how to flick the voltage switch at=
 the back :P . i used a cable marked with the voltage 2.5A 250V~ (a regular=
 computer power cable which i snatched from my pc) and voila! the edp was a=
live. I'm sorry i can't help you with the blown fuse but i'm sure it's fixa=
ble.<div><br></div><div>i googled my old posts and it did bring some memori=
es of how nice people in this list can be. sorry to butt in.</div><div><br>=
</div><div>Best=2C<br><br><div class=3D"ecxgmail_quote">On Sat=2C Sep 3=2C =
2011 at 3:34 AM=2C james leight<span class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space">&nb=
sp=3B</span><span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=3B<a href=3D"mailto:jleight881@hotmail.co=
.uk">jleight881@hotmail.co.uk</a>&gt=3B</span><span class=3D"ecxApple-conve=
rted-space">&nbsp=3B</span>wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"ecxgmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"border-left-width:1px=3Bborder-left-color:rgb(204=2C 204=2C 204)=3B=
border-left-style:solid=3Bpadding-left:1ex"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Well=2C t=
he only you can do to the plug is take the fuse out theres no way to get in=
to the plug without mangling it up. Its a 5a fuse.<br><br><div><hr>From:<sp=
an class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space">&nbsp=3B</span><a href=3D"mailto:mark=
@markfrancombe.com">mark@markfrancombe.com</a><br>Date: Fri=2C 2 Sep 2011 2=
1:12:39 +0200<br>Subject: Re: EDP Powering problem.<br>To:<span class=3D"ec=
xApple-converted-space">&nbsp=3B</span><a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@lo=
opers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><div><div></div><=
div class=3D"h5"><br><br>It should be James=2C it should be.. check for a s=
hort in the plug?<br><br><div>On Fri=2C Sep 2=2C 2011 at 9:03 PM=2C james l=
eight<span class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space">&nbsp=3B</span><span dir=3D"l=
tr">&lt=3B<a href=3D"mailto:jleight881@hotmail.co.uk">jleight881@hotmail.co=
.uk</a>&gt=3B</span><span class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space">&nbsp=3B</span=
>wrote:<br><blockquote style=3D"border-left-width:1px=3Bborder-left-color:r=
gb(204=2C 204=2C 204)=3Bborder-left-style:solid=3Bpadding-left:1ex"><div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">I just purchased the EDP and as I got from =
america and I live in england I thought it would be easiest to buy a replac=
ement power cord. The replacement looked pretty much identical so I decided=
 to it in=2C switched the voltage on the EDP to 230 and then switched it on=
=2C all my outlets blew.&nbsp=3B<div><br></div><div>so I was wondering if a=
nyone can help me with this?&nbsp=3BI'm thinking it must be the lead becaus=
e the guy I bought it from said it was working fine before he sent it. Is i=
t possible to just plug adapter and use the american lead?<div><br></div><d=
iv>Cheers</div><div>James</div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><=
br><br clear=3D"all"><br>--<span class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space">&nbsp=
=3B</span><br><i style=3D"font-family:verdana=2C sans-serif=3Bcolor:rgb(255=
=2C 255=2C 255)=3Bbackground-color:rgb(0=2C 0=2C 0)"><font size=3D"4" style=
=3D"font-family:'trebuchet ms'=2C sans-serif"><u>Mark Francombe</u></font><=
/i><br><font size=3D"1"><a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com/" style=3D"=
color:rgb(51=2C 0=2C 51)" target=3D"_blank">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br st=
yle=3D"color:rgb(51=2C 0=2C 51)"><a href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com/" sty=
le=3D"color:rgb(51=2C 0=2C 51)" target=3D"_blank">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br=
 style=3D"color:rgb(51=2C 0=2C 51)"><a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094"=
 style=3D"color:rgb(51=2C 0=2C 51)" target=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/user=
825094</a><br style=3D"color:rgb(51=2C 0=2C 51)"><a href=3D"http://www.looo=
p.no/" style=3D"color:rgb(51=2C 0=2C 51)" target=3D"_blank">http://www.looo=
p.no</a><br>twitter @markfrancombe</font><br></div></div></div></div></div>=
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Yeah, that pulled me right in. It does what titles music is supposed  
to do.

On Sep 3, 2011, at 12:24 PM, Art Simon wrote:

> Rottweiler is really nice too!


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Weird thing, playing with some guys right now, and they need midi clock from
me, they say that thr clock they are getting from me has a kind of stop In
it... So their gear is not working... Weirdly this happened to me recently
when this same edp was plugged into the repeater, the repeater would just
stop after one note...

Help


M
Sent from my (advertisement removed)

On 4 Sep 2011, at 16:16, james leight <jleight881@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

Sadly I can't test the cable with anything else because I don't have
anything that uses that type of cable unless theres another way to test it?

I was wondering if I could use an adapter with the american cable as the
echoplex has its own voltage switch I shouldn't need a voltage converter
should I?



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From: matilists@gmail.com
Subject: Re: EDP Powering problem.
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 09:53:20 -0300
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com


On 2 Sep 2011, at 19:46, james leight wrote:

Ahh 2.5A 250V~ mines 10A 250V~ don't know if this is the actual problem
because the lead that came with it reads 10A 250V~ but I might go and look
for another lead anyway.


thats not the problem
if one was only 130V it would theoretically be possible to create a short
circuit when loaded with 230V but very unlikely
the current through the EDP is far below 2A anyway, so if there was a fault
in it, the internal fuse would blow, exept if there is a short cirquit right
at its power socket.

the safety switch reacts to much smaller currents that "run away" so if only
this switches off, there may be a insulation problem in the EDP, maybe even
a cap between power input and ground which is too big for your safety
switch.

first test would be whether the power cable itself makes the fuse blow


It's lucky my house has a safety switch when things like this happen =]

Cheers for your help halim

------------------------------
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 06:07:48 +0800
Subject: Re: EDP Powering problem.
From: halimzainal@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

hi james. i had the same problem with the edp when i first got it from the
US. i live in malaysia and we run the same voltage as the UK (230-240) But
i'm thankful because the guys here at LD helped a total noob like me to make
it run. i did not put my edp in use for quite sometime until i'm sure that
i'm using the right cables..even learning how to flick the voltage switch at
the back :P . i used a cable marked with the voltage 2.5A 250V~ (a regular
computer power cable which i snatched from my pc) and voila! the edp was
alive. I'm sorry i can't help you with the blown fuse but i'm sure it's
fixable.

i googled my old posts and it did bring some memories of how nice people in
this list can be. sorry to butt in.

Best,

On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 3:34 AM, james leight <jleight881@hotmail.co.uk>
wrote:

Well, the only you can do to the plug is take the fuse out theres no way to
get into the plug without mangling it up. Its a 5a fuse.

------------------------------
From: mark@markfrancombe.com
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 21:12:39 +0200
Subject: Re: EDP Powering problem.
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com


It should be James, it should be.. check for a short in the plug?

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:03 PM, james leight <jleight881@hotmail.co.uk>
wrote:

I just purchased the EDP and as I got from america and I live in england I
thought it would be easiest to buy a replacement power cord. The replacement
looked pretty much identical so I decided to it in, switched the voltage on
the EDP to 230 and then switched it on, all my outlets blew.

so I was wondering if anyone can help me with this? I'm thinking it must be
the lead because the guy I bought it from said it was working fine before he
sent it. Is it possible to just plug adapter and use the american lead?

Cheers
James




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<html><body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><div><br>Weird thing, playing with some guy=
s right now, and they need midi clock from me, they say that thr clock they=
 are getting from me has a kind of stop In it... So their gear is not worki=
ng... Weirdly this happened to me recently when this same edp was plugged i=
nto the repeater, the repeater would just stop after one note...=A0</div>
<div><br></div><div>Help</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>M<br>Sent =
from my (advertisement removed)</div><div><br>On 4 Sep 2011, at 16:16, jame=
s leight &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jleight881@hotmail.co.uk">jleight881@hotmail=
.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br></div><div></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">
Sadly I can&#39;t test the cable with anything else because I don&#39;t hav=
e anything that uses that type of cable unless theres another way to test i=
t?<div><br></div><div>I was wondering if I could use an adapter with the am=
erican cable as the echoplex has its own voltage switch I shouldn&#39;t nee=
d a voltage converter should I?</div>
<div><br></div><div>=A0=A0=A0<br><br><div><hr id=3D"stopSpelling">From: <a =
href=3D"mailto:matilists@gmail.com"><a href=3D"mailto:matilists@gmail.com">=
matilists@gmail.com</a></a><br>Subject: Re: EDP Powering problem.<br>Date: =
Sun, 4 Sep 2011 09:53:20 -0300<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com"><a href=3D"mailt=
o:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<=
/a></a><br><br>

<br><div><div>On 2 Sep 2011, at 19:46, james leight wrote:</div><br class=
=3D"ecxApple-interchange-newline"><blockquote><span class=3D"ecxApple-style=
-span" style=3D"border-collapse:separate;font-family:Geneva;font-style:norm=
al;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height=
:normal;orphans:2;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:no=
ne;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;font-size:medium"><div clas=
s=3D"ecxhmmessage" style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><font class=3D"ecxApple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=
=3D"2">Ahh 2.5A 250V~ mines 10A 250V~ don&#39;t know if this is the actual =
problem because the lead that came with it reads 10A 250V~ but I might go a=
nd look for another lead anyway. =A0</font></div>
</div></span></blockquote><div><br></div>thats not the problem</div><div>if=
 one was only 130V it would theoretically be possible to create a short cir=
cuit when loaded with 230V but very unlikely</div><div>the current through =
the EDP is far below 2A anyway, so if there was a fault in it, the internal=
 fuse would blow, exept if there is a short cirquit right at its power sock=
et.</div>
<div><br></div><div>the safety switch reacts to much smaller currents that =
&quot;run away&quot; so if only this switches off, there may be a insulatio=
n problem in the EDP, maybe even a cap between power input and ground which=
 is too big for your safety switch.</div>
<div><br></div><div>first test would be whether the power cable itself make=
s the fuse blow<br><blockquote><span class=3D"ecxApple-style-span" style=3D=
"border-collapse:separate;font-family:Geneva;font-style:normal;font-variant=
:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;orphans=
:2;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:=
normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;font-size:medium"><div class=3D"ecxhmmessa=
ge" style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><font class=3D"ecxApple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" s=
ize=3D"2"><br></font><div><font class=3D"ecxApple-style-span" face=3D"Tahom=
a" size=3D"2">It&#39;s lucky my house has a safety switch when things like =
this happen =3D]</font><br>
<div style=3D"font-family:Tahoma;font-size:10pt"><br></div><div><font class=
=3D"ecxApple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">Cheers for your help ha=
lim</font><br><br><div style=3D"font-family:Tahoma;font-size:10pt"><hr id=
=3D"ecxstopSpelling">
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 06:07:48 +0800<br>Subject: Re: EDP Powering problem.<=
br>From:<span class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space">=A0</span><a href=3D"mailt=
o:halimzainal@gmail.com"><a href=3D"mailto:halimzainal@gmail.com">halimzain=
al@gmail.com</a></a><br>
To:<span class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space">=A0</span><a href=3D"mailto:Loo=
pers-Delight@loopers-delight.com"><a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers=
-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a></a><br><br>hi james. =
i had the same problem with the edp when i first got it from the US. i live=
 in malaysia and we run the same voltage as the UK (230-240) But i&#39;m th=
ankful because the guys here at LD helped a total noob like me to make it r=
un. i did not put my edp in use for quite sometime until i&#39;m sure that =
i&#39;m using the right cables..even learning how to flick the voltage swit=
ch at the back :P . i used a cable marked with the voltage 2.5A 250V~ (a re=
gular computer power cable which i snatched from my pc) and voila! the edp =
was alive. I&#39;m sorry i can&#39;t help you with the blown fuse but i&#39=
;m sure it&#39;s fixable.<div>
<br></div><div>i googled my old posts and it did bring some memories of how=
 nice people in this list can be. sorry to butt in.</div><div><br></div><di=
v>Best,<br><br><div class=3D"ecxgmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 3:34 AM=
, james leight<span class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space">=A0</span><span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jleight881@hotmail.co.uk"><a href=3D"mailto:=
jleight881@hotmail.co.uk">jleight881@hotmail.co.uk</a></a>&gt;</span><span =
class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space">=A0</span>wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"ecxgmail_quote" style=3D"border-left-width:1px;border-=
left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">Well, the only you can do to the plug is take the fuse o=
ut theres no way to get into the plug without mangling it up. Its a 5a fuse=
.<br>
<br><div><hr>From:<span class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space">=A0</span><a hre=
f=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com"><a href=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.co=
m">mark@markfrancombe.com</a></a><br>Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 21:12:39 +0200<b=
r>Subject: Re: EDP Powering problem.<br>
To:<span class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space">=A0</span><a href=3D"mailto:Loo=
pers-Delight@loopers-delight.com"><a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers=
-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a></a><div><div></div><d=
iv class=3D"h5">
<br><br>It should be James, it should be.. check for a short in the plug?<b=
r><br><div>On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:03 PM, james leight<span class=3D"ecxAp=
ple-converted-space">=A0</span><span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jlei=
ght881@hotmail.co.uk"><a href=3D"mailto:jleight881@hotmail.co.uk">jleight88=
1@hotmail.co.uk</a></a>&gt;</span><span class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space">=
=A0</span>wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, =
204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">I just purchased the EDP and as I got from america and I live in=
 england I thought it would be easiest to buy a replacement power cord. The=
 replacement looked pretty much identical so I decided to it in, switched t=
he voltage on the EDP to 230 and then switched it on, all my outlets blew.=
=A0<div>
<br></div><div>so I was wondering if anyone can help me with this?=A0I&#39;=
m thinking it must be the lead because the guy I bought it from said it was=
 working fine before he sent it. Is it possible to just plug adapter and us=
e the american lead?<div>
<br></div><div>Cheers</div><div>James</div></div></div></div></div></blockq=
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Sounds to me like you are sending MIDI note on and off messages, not MIDI c=
lock.

On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 5:57 PM, mark francombe <markfrancombe@gmail.com> wr=
ote:
>
> Weird thing, playing with some guys right now, and they need midi clock f=
rom
> me, they say that thr clock they are getting from me has a kind of stop I=
n
> it... So their gear is not working... Weirdly this happened to me recentl=
y
> when this same edp was plugged into the repeater, the repeater would just
> stop after one note...
> Help
>
> M
> Sent from my (advertisement removed)
> On 4 Sep 2011, at 16:16, james leight <jleight881@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Sadly I can't test the cable with anything else because I don't have
> anything that uses that type of cable unless theres another way to test i=
t?
> I was wondering if I could use an adapter with the american cable as the
> echoplex has its own voltage switch I shouldn't need a voltage converter
> should I?
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: matilists@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: EDP Powering problem.
> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 09:53:20 -0300
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
>
> On 2 Sep 2011, at 19:46, james leight wrote:
>
> Ahh 2.5A 250V~ mines 10A 250V~ don't know if this is the actual problem
> because the lead that came with it reads 10A 250V~ but I might go and loo=
k
> for another lead anyway.
>
> thats not the problem
> if one was only 130V it would theoretically be possible to create a short
> circuit when loaded with 230V but very unlikely
> the current through the EDP is far below 2A anyway, so if there was a fau=
lt
> in it, the internal fuse would blow, exept if there is a short cirquit ri=
ght
> at its power socket.
> the safety switch reacts to much smaller currents that "run away" so if o=
nly
> this switches off, there may be a insulation problem in the EDP, maybe ev=
en
> a cap between power input and ground which is too big for your safety
> switch.
> first test would be whether the power cable itself makes the fuse blow
>
> It's lucky my house has a safety switch when things like this happen =3D]
>
> Cheers for your help halim
>
> ________________________________
> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 06:07:48 +0800
> Subject: Re: EDP Powering problem.
> From:=A0halimzainal@gmail.com
> To:=A0Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
> hi james. i had the same problem with the edp when i first got it from th=
e
> US. i live in malaysia and we run the same voltage as the UK (230-240) Bu=
t
> i'm thankful because the guys here at LD helped a total noob like me to m=
ake
> it run. i did not put my edp in use for quite sometime until i'm sure tha=
t
> i'm using the right cables..even learning how to flick the voltage switch=
 at
> the back :P . i used a cable marked with the voltage 2.5A 250V~ (a regula=
r
> computer power cable which i snatched from my pc) and voila! the edp was
> alive. I'm sorry i can't help you with the blown fuse but i'm sure it's
> fixable.
> i googled my old posts and it did bring some memories of how nice people =
in
> this list can be. sorry to butt in.
> Best,
>
> On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 3:34 AM, james
> leight=A0<jleight881@hotmail.co.uk>=A0wrote:
>
> Well, the only you can do to the plug is take the fuse out theres no way =
to
> get into the plug without mangling it up. Its a 5a fuse.
>
> ________________________________
> From:=A0mark@markfrancombe.com
> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 21:12:39 +0200
> Subject: Re: EDP Powering problem.
> To:=A0Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
> It should be James, it should be.. check for a short in the plug?
>
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:03 PM, james
> leight=A0<jleight881@hotmail.co.uk>=A0wrote:
>
> I just purchased the EDP and as I got from america and I live in england =
I
> thought it would be easiest to buy a replacement power cord. The replacem=
ent
> looked pretty much identical so I decided to it in, switched the voltage =
on
> the EDP to 230 and then switched it on, all my outlets blew.
> so I was wondering if anyone can help me with this?=A0I'm thinking it mus=
t be
> the lead because the guy I bought it from said it was working fine before=
 he
> sent it. Is it possible to just plug adapter and use the american lead?
> Cheers
> James
>
>
> --
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> www.ordoabkhao.com
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On 4 Sep 2011, at 11:15, james leight wrote:

> Sadly I can't test the cable with anything else because I don't have =
anything that uses that type of cable unless theres another way to test =
it?

i meant the cable alone, without any machine
>=20
> I was wondering if I could use an adapter with the american cable as =
the echoplex has its own voltage switch I shouldn't need a voltage =
converter should I?
>=20
a voltage converter is not necessary, but you can use the original cable =
with a connector adapter
>   =20
>=20
> From: matilists@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: EDP Powering problem.
> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 09:53:20 -0300
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=20
>=20
> On 2 Sep 2011, at 19:46, james leight wrote:
>=20
> Ahh 2.5A 250V~ mines 10A 250V~ don't know if this is the actual =
problem because the lead that came with it reads 10A 250V~ but I might =
go and look for another lead anyway. =20
>=20
> thats not the problem
> if one was only 130V it would theoretically be possible to create a =
short circuit when loaded with 230V but very unlikely
> the current through the EDP is far below 2A anyway, so if there was a =
fault in it, the internal fuse would blow, exept if there is a short =
cirquit right at its power socket.
>=20
> the safety switch reacts to much smaller currents that "run away" so =
if only this switches off, there may be a insulation problem in the EDP, =
maybe even a cap between power input and ground which is too big for =
your safety switch.
>=20
> first test would be whether the power cable itself makes the fuse blow
>=20
> It's lucky my house has a safety switch when things like this happen =
=3D]
>=20
> Cheers for your help halim
>=20
> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 06:07:48 +0800
> Subject: Re: EDP Powering problem.
> From: halimzainal@gmail.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=20
> hi james. i had the same problem with the edp when i first got it from =
the US. i live in malaysia and we run the same voltage as the UK =
(230-240) But i'm thankful because the guys here at LD helped a total =
noob like me to make it run. i did not put my edp in use for quite =
sometime until i'm sure that i'm using the right cables..even learning =
how to flick the voltage switch at the back :P . i used a cable marked =
with the voltage 2.5A 250V~ (a regular computer power cable which i =
snatched from my pc) and voila! the edp was alive. I'm sorry i can't =
help you with the blown fuse but i'm sure it's fixable.
>=20
> i googled my old posts and it did bring some memories of how nice =
people in this list can be. sorry to butt in.
>=20
> Best,
>=20
> On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 3:34 AM, james leight =
<jleight881@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> Well, the only you can do to the plug is take the fuse out theres no =
way to get into the plug without mangling it up. Its a 5a fuse.
>=20
> From: mark@markfrancombe.com
> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 21:12:39 +0200
> Subject: Re: EDP Powering problem.
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=20
>=20
> It should be James, it should be.. check for a short in the plug?
>=20
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:03 PM, james leight =
<jleight881@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> I just purchased the EDP and as I got from america and I live in =
england I thought it would be easiest to buy a replacement power cord. =
The replacement looked pretty much identical so I decided to it in, =
switched the voltage on the EDP to 230 and then switched it on, all my =
outlets blew.=20
>=20
> so I was wondering if anyone can help me with this? I'm thinking it =
must be the lead because the guy I bought it from said it was working =
fine before he sent it. Is it possible to just plug adapter and use the =
american lead?
>=20
> Cheers
> James
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> Mark Francombe
> www.markfrancombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no
> twitter @markfrancombe
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<html><head><base href=3D"x-msg://106/"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: =
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after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On 4 Sep 2011, at 11:15, james leight =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: =
separate; font-family: Geneva; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; =
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none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; =
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auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div =
class=3D"hmmessage" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; =
"><div dir=3D"ltr">Sadly I can't test the cable with anything else =
because I don't have anything that uses that type of cable unless theres =
another way to test it?</div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div>i =
meant the cable alone, without any machine<br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: =
separate; font-family: Geneva; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; =
orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div =
class=3D"hmmessage" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; =
"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><br></div><div>I was wondering if I could use an =
adapter with the american cable as the echoplex has its own voltage =
switch I shouldn't need a voltage converter should =
I?</div><div><br></div></div></div></span></blockquote>a voltage =
converter is not necessary, but you can use the original cable with a =
connector adapter</div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; =
font-family: Geneva; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; =
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none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div =
class=3D"hmmessage" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; =
"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br><br><div><hr =
id=3D"stopSpelling">From:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:matilists@gmail.com">matilists@gmail.com</a><br>Subject: =
Re: EDP Powering problem.<br>Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 09:53:20 =
-0300<br>To:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com</a><br><br><br><div><div>On 2 Sep 2011, at 19:46, james =
leight wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"ecxApple-interchange-newline"><blockquote><span =
class=3D"ecxApple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; =
font-family: Geneva; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; =
orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: =
medium; "><div class=3D"ecxhmmessage" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Tahoma; "><div dir=3D"ltr"><font =
class=3D"ecxApple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">Ahh 2.5A 250V~ =
mines 10A 250V~ don't know if this is the actual problem because the =
lead that came with it reads 10A 250V~ but I might go and look for =
another lead anyway. =
&nbsp;</font></div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div>thats not =
the problem</div><div>if one was only 130V it would theoretically be =
possible to create a short circuit when loaded with 230V but very =
unlikely</div><div>the current through the EDP is far below 2A anyway, =
so if there was a fault in it, the internal fuse would blow, exept if =
there is a short cirquit right at its power =
socket.</div><div><br></div><div>the safety switch reacts to much =
smaller currents that "run away" so if only this switches off, there may =
be a insulation problem in the EDP, maybe even a cap between power input =
and ground which is too big for your safety =
switch.</div><div><br></div><div>first test would be whether the power =
cable itself makes the fuse blow<br><blockquote><span =
class=3D"ecxApple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; =
font-family: Geneva; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; =
orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: =
medium; "><div class=3D"ecxhmmessage" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Tahoma; "><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><font =
class=3D"ecxApple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" =
size=3D"2"><br></font><div><font class=3D"ecxApple-style-span" =
face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">It's lucky my house has a safety switch when =
things like this happen =3D]</font><br><div style=3D"font-family: =
Tahoma; font-size: 10pt; "><br></div><div><font =
class=3D"ecxApple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">Cheers for your =
help halim</font><br><br><div style=3D"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: =
10pt; "><hr id=3D"ecxstopSpelling">Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 06:07:48 =
+0800<br>Subject: Re: EDP Powering problem.<br>From:<span =
class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:halimzainal@gmail.com">halimzainal@gmail.com</a><br>To:<spa=
n class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com</a><br><br>hi james. i had the same problem with the edp =
when i first got it from the US. i live in malaysia and we run the same =
voltage as the UK (230-240) But i'm thankful because the guys here at LD =
helped a total noob like me to make it run. i did not put my edp in use =
for quite sometime until i'm sure that i'm using the right cables..even =
learning how to flick the voltage switch at the back :P . i used a cable =
marked with the voltage 2.5A 250V~ (a regular computer power cable which =
i snatched from my pc) and voila! the edp was alive. I'm sorry i can't =
help you with the blown fuse but i'm sure it's =
fixable.<div><br></div><div>i googled my old posts and it did bring some =
memories of how nice people in this list can be. sorry to butt =
in.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,<br><br><div class=3D"ecxgmail_quote">On=
 Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 3:34 AM, james leight<span =
class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jleight881@hotmail.co.uk">jleight881@hotmail.co.uk</a>&gt;<=
/span><span =
class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>wrote:<br><blockquote =
class=3D"ecxgmail_quote" style=3D"border-left-width: 1px; =
border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; =
padding-left: 1ex; "><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Well, the only you can do to =
the plug is take the fuse out theres no way to get into the plug without =
mangling it up. Its a 5a fuse.<br><br><div><hr>From:<span =
class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com">mark@markfrancombe.com</a><br>Date:=
 Fri, 2 Sep 2011 21:12:39 +0200<br>Subject: Re: EDP Powering =
problem.<br>To:<span class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com</a><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br>It should be =
James, it should be.. check for a short in the plug?<br><br><div>On Fri, =
Sep 2, 2011 at 9:03 PM, james leight<span =
class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jleight881@hotmail.co.uk">jleight881@hotmail.co.uk</a>&gt;<=
/span><span =
class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>wrote:<br><blockquote =
style=3D"border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); =
border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex; "><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div =
dir=3D"ltr">I just purchased the EDP and as I got from america and I =
live in england I thought it would be easiest to buy a replacement power =
cord. The replacement looked pretty much identical so I decided to it =
in, switched the voltage on the EDP to 230 and then switched it on, all =
my outlets blew.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>so I was wondering if anyone =
can help me with this?&nbsp;I'm thinking it must be the lead because the =
guy I bought it from said it was working fine before he sent it. Is it =
possible to just plug adapter and use the american =
lead?<div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div>James</div></div></div></div></d=
iv></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>--<span =
class=3D"ecxApple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br><i =
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background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><font size=3D"4" style=3D"font-family: =
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size=3D"1"><a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com/" target=3D"_blank" =
style=3D"color: rgb(51, 0, 51); ">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br =
style=3D"color: rgb(51, 0, 51); "><a href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com/" =
target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: rgb(51, 0, 51); =
">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br style=3D"color: rgb(51, 0, 51); "><a =
href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: =
rgb(51, 0, 51); ">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br style=3D"color: =
rgb(51, 0, 51); "><a href=3D"http://www.looop.no/" target=3D"_blank" =
style=3D"color: rgb(51, 0, 51); ">http://www.looop.no</a><br>twitter =
@markfrancombe</font><br></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div>=
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yes, nothing starts from nothing
it may seem useless to think about the past and repeat facts, but its =
not, because it shows directions and helps for the future. and =
anniversary is a good opportunity:

one root of LD is my Loop group association idea as described at
http://matthias.grob.org/pMusEng/loopdev.htm=20
http://matthias.grob.org/pMusEng/LoopGroup.pdf
but it did not come to exist and I am very thankful that Kim found a =
much better way and did it!

at least as important was David Torn's list Door-X from where most of =
the initial members came and possibly even some motivation and =
directions for Kim to do something similar. of course looping was =
discussed there.
I could not find the list any more today...

at the time I was not even aware of Violets involvement, I do not think =
Kim mentioned it. so maybe she can tell us more about it and add her =
roots...

On 1 Sep 2011, at 22:54, Rick Walker wrote:

>=20
> So,  yes,  all hats off to Kim's vision and dedication to this =
community.........to Violet for continuing it.........to
> Matthias Grob for his continual attempts to promote and innovate for =
this community (it should be known
> that Matthias' invention of the Paradis Loop Delay and his involvement =
with Gibson and Kim that catalyzed all
> of this in the first place which is not to take anything away from =
Kim's vision to create it) and for the
> amazing group of people that I've met here online and through the
> huge amount of looping festivals that we've all been able to play at =
one time or another.
>=20
> Loop on!     I say a toast of gratitude to Loopers Delight.
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> love,   Rick Walker
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">yes, =
nothing starts from nothing<div>it may seem useless to think about the =
past and repeat facts, but its not, because it shows directions and =
helps for the future. and anniversary is a good =
opportunity:</div><div><br><div>one root of LD is my Loop =
group&nbsp;association idea&nbsp;as described at</div><div><a =
href=3D"http://matthias.grob.org/pMusEng/loopdev.htm">http://matthias.grob=
.org/pMusEng/loopdev.htm</a>&nbsp;</div><div><a =
href=3D"http://matthias.grob.org/pMusEng/">http://matthias.grob.org/pMusEn=
g/</a>LoopGroup.pdf</div><div>but it did not come to exist and I am very =
thankful that Kim found a much better way and did =
it!</div><div><br></div><div>at least as important was David Torn's list =
Door-X from where most of the initial members came and possibly even =
some motivation and directions for Kim to do something similar. of =
course looping was discussed there.</div><div>I could not find the list =
any more today...</div><div><br></div><div>at the time I was not even =
aware of Violets involvement, I do not think Kim mentioned it. so maybe =
she can tell us more about it and add her =
roots...</div><div><br><div><div>On 1 Sep 2011, at 22:54, Rick Walker =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div><br>So, &nbsp;yes, &nbsp;all hats off to Kim's vision =
and dedication to this community.........to Violet for continuing =
it.........to<br>Matthias Grob for his continual attempts to promote and =
innovate for this community (it should be known<br>that Matthias' =
invention of the Paradis Loop Delay and his involvement with Gibson and =
Kim that catalyzed all<br>of this in the first place which is not to =
take anything away from Kim's vision to create it) and for =
the<br>amazing group of people that I've met here online and through =
the<br>huge amount of looping festivals that we've all been able to play =
at one time or another.<br><br>Loop on! &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I say a =
toast of gratitude to Loopers Delight.<br><br>love, &nbsp;&nbsp;Rick =
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What? Is that possible?, but wait... YES...!!!
the edp sends little beeps on the bar and one on the beat doesnt it? Maybe
THAT it?? fuckity fuck... How do I disable that.. weirdly my other edp
doesnt do that..
Is this just a midi channel thing then?

I think you have put me on to something Ricky.. thx... wheres the Butler
when you need him...?

In the end at our rehersal, we just all set the same exact BPM, and it was
pretty ok... A bit Steve Reich at times, but that no bad thing!

M


On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com>wrote:

> Sounds to me like you are sending MIDI note on and off messages, not MIDI
> clock.
>
> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 5:57 PM, mark francombe <markfrancombe@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Weird thing, playing with some guys right now, and they need midi clock
> from
> > me, they say that thr clock they are getting from me has a kind of stop
> In
> > it... So their gear is not working... Weirdly this happened to me
> recently
> > when this same edp was plugged into the repeater, the repeater would just
> > stop after one note...
> > Help
> >
> > M
> > Sent from my (advertisement removed)
>



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What? Is that possible?, but wait... YES...!!!<br>the edp sends little beep=
s on the bar and one on the beat doesnt it? Maybe THAT it?? fuckity fuck...=
 How do I disable that.. weirdly my other edp doesnt do that.. <br>Is this =
just a midi channel thing then?<br>

<br>I think you have put me on to something Ricky.. thx... wheres the Butle=
r when you need him...?<br><br>In the end at our rehersal, we just all set =
the same exact BPM, and it was pretty ok... A bit Steve Reich at times, but=
 that no bad thing!<br>

<br>M<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 7:29 PM,=
 Ricky Graham <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmai=
l.com">rickygrahammusic@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pad=
ding-left:1ex;">

Sounds to me like you are sending MIDI note on and off messages, not MIDI c=
lock.<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 5:57 PM, mark francombe &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:markfr=
ancombe@gmail.com">markfrancombe@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Weird thing, playing with some guys right now, and they need midi cloc=
k from<br>
&gt; me, they say that thr clock they are getting from me has a kind of sto=
p In<br>
&gt; it... So their gear is not working... Weirdly this happened to me rece=
ntly<br>
&gt; when this same edp was plugged into the repeater, the repeater would j=
ust<br>
&gt; stop after one note...<br>
&gt; Help<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; M<br>
&gt; Sent from my (advertisement removed)<br>
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I am not sure, but MIDI clock and MIDI note messages are not the same
thing, so it could be the source of your problem. I haven't used my
EDP in some time (since using Echoloop in software). Yes, you need
Andy to clarify ;) Andy?

On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 11:24 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> What? Is that possible?, but wait... YES...!!!
> the edp sends little beeps on the bar and one on the beat doesnt it? Maybe
> THAT it?? fuckity fuck... How do I disable that.. weirdly my other edp
> doesnt do that..
> Is this just a midi channel thing then?
>
> I think you have put me on to something Ricky.. thx... wheres the Butler
> when you need him...?
>
> In the end at our rehersal, we just all set the same exact BPM, and it was
> pretty ok... A bit Steve Reich at times, but that no bad thing!
>
> M
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Sounds to me like you are sending MIDI note on and off messages, not MIDI
>> clock.
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 5:57 PM, mark francombe <markfrancombe@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Weird thing, playing with some guys right now, and they need midi clock
>> > from
>> > me, they say that thr clock they are getting from me has a kind of stop
>> > In
>> > it... So their gear is not working... Weirdly this happened to me
>> > recently
>> > when this same edp was plugged into the repeater, the repeater would
>> > just
>> > stop after one note...
>> > Help
>> >
>> > M
>> > Sent from my (advertisement removed)
>
>
>
> --
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> www.markfrancombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no
> twitter @markfrancombe
>

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On Sep 1, 2011, at 4:02 AM, Tony K wrote:
> I think most of us have a list like that.
> Moog Rogue. sold to buy an ARP Avatar.  big mistake.
> '78 Peavey Classic 50 amp.  sold.
> 70's Mutron BiPhase - sold.
> 70's Mutron touch wah - sold.

The flip side: I read an article in a magazine somewhere called top 10  
studio mistakes. One of them was not selling stuff when it had been  
replaced. I am so guilty of that. It's one thing if you use the stuff  
even occasionally, but if they just take up space.... ADATS, 5 TEAC  
reel decks, rack effects, Korg guitar synth anyone?


Ed Durbrow
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, Korg guitar synth anyone?


Ed Durbrow
Saitama, Japan


Not the X911??????
ME!!! I want that!!! In fact i should have added it to the list of things i
regret selling!!!!
It was Fantastic!!!!

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ok i know this one......................


what number ofset are you using ???


there are some odd notes that get sent in minus numbers bellow the 0.......=
..=20

try altering the offset numbers for your midi commands by 10 - 20 and see w=
hat happens.


i had this using 3 edps............ 2 would send clock fine and the third w=
ould  just kind of instantly send a start song but also send out a timing p=
ulse that kills it so on my electribe it sounded like i got a single drum b=
eat.



> Date: Sun=2C 4 Sep 2011 23:33:57 +0100
> Subject: Re: Midi out from edp.
> From: rickygrahammusic@gmail.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=20
> I am not sure=2C but MIDI clock and MIDI note messages are not the same
> thing=2C so it could be the source of your problem. I haven't used my
> EDP in some time (since using Echoloop in software). Yes=2C you need
> Andy to clarify =3B) Andy?
>=20
> On Sun=2C Sep 4=2C 2011 at 11:24 PM=2C mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe=
.com> wrote:
> > What? Is that possible?=2C but wait... YES...!!!
> > the edp sends little beeps on the bar and one on the beat doesnt it? Ma=
ybe
> > THAT it?? fuckity fuck... How do I disable that.. weirdly my other edp
> > doesnt do that..
> > Is this just a midi channel thing then?
> >
> > I think you have put me on to something Ricky.. thx... wheres the Butle=
r
> > when you need him...?
> >
> > In the end at our rehersal=2C we just all set the same exact BPM=2C and=
 it was
> > pretty ok... A bit Steve Reich at times=2C but that no bad thing!
> >
> > M
> >
> >
> > On Sun=2C Sep 4=2C 2011 at 7:29 PM=2C Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gm=
ail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Sounds to me like you are sending MIDI note on and off messages=2C not=
 MIDI
> >> clock.
> >>
> >> On Sun=2C Sep 4=2C 2011 at 5:57 PM=2C mark francombe <markfrancombe@gm=
ail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Weird thing=2C playing with some guys right now=2C and they need mid=
i clock
> >> > from
> >> > me=2C they say that thr clock they are getting from me has a kind of=
 stop
> >> > In
> >> > it... So their gear is not working... Weirdly this happened to me
> >> > recently
> >> > when this same edp was plugged into the repeater=2C the repeater wou=
ld
> >> > just
> >> > stop after one note...
> >> > Help
> >> >
> >> > M
> >> > Sent from my (advertisement removed)
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Mark Francombe
> > www.markfrancombe.com
> > www.ordoabkhao.com
> > http://vimeo.com/user825094
> > http://www.looop.no
> > twitter @markfrancombe
> >
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 think you have put me on to something Ricky.. thx... wheres the Butler<br>=
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e end at our rehersal=2C we just all set the same exact BPM=2C and it was<b=
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=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B On Sun=2C Sep 4=2C 2011 at 7:29 PM=2C Ricky Graham &lt=
=3Brickygrahammusic@gmail.com&gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B wrote:<br>&gt=3B &gt=
=3B&gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B Sounds to me like you are sending MIDI not=
e on and off messages=2C not MIDI<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B clock.<br>&gt=3B &=
gt=3B&gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B On Sun=2C Sep 4=2C 2011 at 5:57 PM=2C ma=
rk francombe &lt=3Bmarkfrancombe@gmail.com&gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B wro=
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gt=3B &gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B --<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B Mark Fra=
ncombe<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B www.markfrancombe.com<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B www.ordoabkh=
ao.com<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B http://vimeo.com/user825094<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B http:/=
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If in doubt, look at the manual :-) They list MIDI note number
commands. Perhaps you are sending a command you are unaware of.

On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 10:02 AM, phillip wilson <phillwilson@hotmail.com> w=
rote:
> ok i know this one......................
>
>
> what number ofset are you using ???
>
>
> there are some odd notes that get sent in minus numbers bellow the
> 0.........
>
> try altering the offset numbers for your midi commands by 10 - 20 and see
> what happens.
>
>
> i had this using 3 edps............ 2 would send clock fine and the third
> would=A0 just kind of instantly send a start song but also send out a tim=
ing
> pulse that kills it so on my electribe it sounded like i got a single dru=
m
> beat.
>
>
>
>> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 23:33:57 +0100
>> Subject: Re: Midi out from edp.
>> From: rickygrahammusic@gmail.com
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>
>> I am not sure, but MIDI clock and MIDI note messages are not the same
>> thing, so it could be the source of your problem. I haven't used my
>> EDP in some time (since using Echoloop in software). Yes, you need
>> Andy to clarify ;) Andy?
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 11:24 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
>> wrote:
>> > What? Is that possible?, but wait... YES...!!!
>> > the edp sends little beeps on the bar and one on the beat doesnt it?
>> > Maybe
>> > THAT it?? fuckity fuck... How do I disable that.. weirdly my other edp
>> > doesnt do that..
>> > Is this just a midi channel thing then?
>> >
>> > I think you have put me on to something Ricky.. thx... wheres the Butl=
er
>> > when you need him...?
>> >
>> > In the end at our rehersal, we just all set the same exact BPM, and it
>> > was
>> > pretty ok... A bit Steve Reich at times, but that no bad thing!
>> >
>> > M
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Ricky Graham
>> > <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Sounds to me like you are sending MIDI note on and off messages, not
>> >> MIDI
>> >> clock.
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 5:57 PM, mark francombe
>> >> <markfrancombe@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Weird thing, playing with some guys right now, and they need midi
>> >> > clock
>> >> > from
>> >> > me, they say that thr clock they are getting from me has a kind of
>> >> > stop
>> >> > In
>> >> > it... So their gear is not working... Weirdly this happened to me
>> >> > recently
>> >> > when this same edp was plugged into the repeater, the repeater woul=
d
>> >> > just
>> >> > stop after one note...
>> >> > Help
>> >> >
>> >> > M
>> >> > Sent from my (advertisement removed)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Mark Francombe
>> > www.markfrancombe.com
>> > www.ordoabkhao.com
>> > http://vimeo.com/user825094
>> > http://www.looop.no
>> > twitter @markfrancombe
>> >
>>
>

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Ahh, going off track here I think guys.. good point tho Philip...

What Im talking about is nothing to do with offset I think, as I dont have
to be sending ANYTHING from my foot controller.. when I look at midi
monitor, Im getting stop commands mixed in with the clock timing pulses, but
on the OTHER EDP, nothing... just clean midi clock... but I do remember
something about the timing midi beeps... I havent had a chance to check
Manual yet, since your hint Ricky, but maybe Philip is right, maybe those
beeps are affected by offset.. have to check... but its NOT a note off Im
getting, its a stop song (I think)

M

On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com>wrote:

> If in doubt, look at the manual :-) They list MIDI note number
> commands. Perhaps you are sending a command you are unaware of.
>
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 10:02 AM, phillip wilson <phillwilson@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > ok i know this one......................
> >
> >
> > what number ofset are you using ???
> >
> >
> > there are some odd notes that get sent in minus numbers bellow the
> > 0.........
> >
> > try altering the offset numbers for your midi commands by 10 - 20 and see
> > what happens.
> >
> >
> > i had this using 3 edps............ 2 would send clock fine and the third
> > would  just kind of instantly send a start song but also send out a
> timing
> > pulse that kills it so on my electribe it sounded like i got a single
> drum
> > beat.
> >
> >
> >
> >> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 23:33:57 +0100
> >> Subject: Re: Midi out from edp.
> >> From: rickygrahammusic@gmail.com
> >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> >>
> >> I am not sure, but MIDI clock and MIDI note messages are not the same
> >> thing, so it could be the source of your problem. I haven't used my
> >> EDP in some time (since using Echoloop in software). Yes, you need
> >> Andy to clarify ;) Andy?
> >>
> >> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 11:24 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >> > What? Is that possible?, but wait... YES...!!!
> >> > the edp sends little beeps on the bar and one on the beat doesnt it?
> >> > Maybe
> >> > THAT it?? fuckity fuck... How do I disable that.. weirdly my other edp
> >> > doesnt do that..
> >> > Is this just a midi channel thing then?
> >> >
> >> > I think you have put me on to something Ricky.. thx... wheres the
> Butler
> >> > when you need him...?
> >> >
> >> > In the end at our rehersal, we just all set the same exact BPM, and it
> >> > was
> >> > pretty ok... A bit Steve Reich at times, but that no bad thing!
> >> >
> >> > M
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Ricky Graham
> >> > <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Sounds to me like you are sending MIDI note on and off messages, not
> >> >> MIDI
> >> >> clock.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 5:57 PM, mark francombe
> >> >> <markfrancombe@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Weird thing, playing with some guys right now, and they need midi
> >> >> > clock
> >> >> > from
> >> >> > me, they say that thr clock they are getting from me has a kind of
> >> >> > stop
> >> >> > In
> >> >> > it... So their gear is not working... Weirdly this happened to me
> >> >> > recently
> >> >> > when this same edp was plugged into the repeater, the repeater
> would
> >> >> > just
> >> >> > stop after one note...
> >> >> > Help
> >> >> >
> >> >> > M
> >> >> > Sent from my (advertisement removed)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Mark Francombe
> >> > www.markfrancombe.com
> >> > www.ordoabkhao.com
> >> > http://vimeo.com/user825094
> >> > http://www.looop.no
> >> > twitter @markfrancombe
> >> >
> >>
> >
>
>


-- 
*Mark Francombe*
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe

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Ahh, going off track here I think guys.. good point tho Philip... <br><br>W=
hat Im talking about is nothing to do with offset I think, as I dont have t=
o be sending ANYTHING from my foot controller.. when I look at midi monitor=
, Im getting stop commands mixed in with the clock timing pulses, but on th=
e OTHER EDP, nothing... just clean midi clock... but I do remember somethin=
g about the timing midi beeps... I havent had a chance to check Manual yet,=
 since your hint Ricky, but maybe Philip is right, maybe those beeps are af=
fected by offset.. have to check... but its NOT a note off Im getting, its =
a stop song (I think)<br>

<br>M<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Ri=
cky Graham <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.c=
om">rickygrahammusic@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex;">

If in doubt, look at the manual :-) They list MIDI note number<br>
commands. Perhaps you are sending a command you are unaware of.<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 10:02 AM, phillip wilson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:phill=
wilson@hotmail.com">phillwilson@hotmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; ok i know this one......................<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; what number ofset are you using ???<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; there are some odd notes that get sent in minus numbers bellow the<br>
&gt; 0.........<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; try altering the offset numbers for your midi commands by 10 - 20 and =
see<br>
&gt; what happens.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; i had this using 3 edps............ 2 would send clock fine and the th=
ird<br>
&gt; would=A0 just kind of instantly send a start song but also send out a =
timing<br>
&gt; pulse that kills it so on my electribe it sounded like i got a single =
drum<br>
&gt; beat.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 23:33:57 +0100<br>
&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: Midi out from edp.<br>
&gt;&gt; From: <a href=3D"mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com">rickygrahammus=
ic@gmail.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers=
-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I am not sure, but MIDI clock and MIDI note messages are not the s=
ame<br>
&gt;&gt; thing, so it could be the source of your problem. I haven&#39;t us=
ed my<br>
&gt;&gt; EDP in some time (since using Echoloop in software). Yes, you need=
<br>
&gt;&gt; Andy to clarify ;) Andy?<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 11:24 PM, mark francombe &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:mark@markfrancombe.com">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; What? Is that possible?, but wait... YES...!!!<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; the edp sends little beeps on the bar and one on the beat doe=
snt it?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Maybe<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; THAT it?? fuckity fuck... How do I disable that.. weirdly my =
other edp<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; doesnt do that..<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Is this just a midi channel thing then?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; I think you have put me on to something Ricky.. thx... wheres=
 the Butler<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; when you need him...?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; In the end at our rehersal, we just all set the same exact BP=
M, and it<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; was<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; pretty ok... A bit Steve Reich at times, but that no bad thin=
g!<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; M<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Ricky Graham<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com">rickygraham=
music@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Sounds to me like you are sending MIDI note on and off me=
ssages, not<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; MIDI<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; clock.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 5:57 PM, mark francombe<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:markfrancombe@gmail.com">markfranco=
mbe@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Weird thing, playing with some guys right now, and t=
hey need midi<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; clock<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; from<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; me, they say that thr clock they are getting from me=
 has a kind of<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; stop<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; In<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; it... So their gear is not working... Weirdly this h=
appened to me<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; recently<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; when this same edp was plugged into the repeater, th=
e repeater would<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; just<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; stop after one note...<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Help<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; M<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Sent from my (advertisement removed)<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Mark Francombe<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; <a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com" target=3D"_blank">ww=
w.markfrancombe.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; <a href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com" target=3D"_blank">www.o=
rdoabkhao.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; <a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" target=3D"_blank">htt=
p://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; <a href=3D"http://www.looop.no" target=3D"_blank">http://www.=
looop.no</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; twitter @markfrancombe<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><i style=3D=
"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(255, 255, 255);background-color:r=
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51)"><a style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" href=3D"http://www.looop.no/" target=
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There are set MIDI note commands that the EDP receives to trigger a
particular function. You need to have a look at the manual and match
it up with the notes your sending.

On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 10:17 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wr=
ote:
> Ahh, going off track here I think guys.. good point tho Philip...
>
> What Im talking about is nothing to do with offset I think, as I dont hav=
e
> to be sending ANYTHING from my foot controller.. when I look at midi
> monitor, Im getting stop commands mixed in with the clock timing pulses, =
but
> on the OTHER EDP, nothing... just clean midi clock... but I do remember
> something about the timing midi beeps... I havent had a chance to check
> Manual yet, since your hint Ricky, but maybe Philip is right, maybe those
> beeps are affected by offset.. have to check... but its NOT a note off Im
> getting, its a stop song (I think)
>
> M
>
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com=
>
> wrote:
>>
>> If in doubt, look at the manual :-) They list MIDI note number
>> commands. Perhaps you are sending a command you are unaware of.
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 10:02 AM, phillip wilson <phillwilson@hotmail.com=
>
>> wrote:
>> > ok i know this one......................
>> >
>> >
>> > what number ofset are you using ???
>> >
>> >
>> > there are some odd notes that get sent in minus numbers bellow the
>> > 0.........
>> >
>> > try altering the offset numbers for your midi commands by 10 - 20 and
>> > see
>> > what happens.
>> >
>> >
>> > i had this using 3 edps............ 2 would send clock fine and the
>> > third
>> > would=A0 just kind of instantly send a start song but also send out a
>> > timing
>> > pulse that kills it so on my electribe it sounded like i got a single
>> > drum
>> > beat.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 23:33:57 +0100
>> >> Subject: Re: Midi out from edp.
>> >> From: rickygrahammusic@gmail.com
>> >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> >>
>> >> I am not sure, but MIDI clock and MIDI note messages are not the same
>> >> thing, so it could be the source of your problem. I haven't used my
>> >> EDP in some time (since using Echoloop in software). Yes, you need
>> >> Andy to clarify ;) Andy?
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 11:24 PM, mark francombe
>> >> <mark@markfrancombe.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > What? Is that possible?, but wait... YES...!!!
>> >> > the edp sends little beeps on the bar and one on the beat doesnt it=
?
>> >> > Maybe
>> >> > THAT it?? fuckity fuck... How do I disable that.. weirdly my other
>> >> > edp
>> >> > doesnt do that..
>> >> > Is this just a midi channel thing then?
>> >> >
>> >> > I think you have put me on to something Ricky.. thx... wheres the
>> >> > Butler
>> >> > when you need him...?
>> >> >
>> >> > In the end at our rehersal, we just all set the same exact BPM, and
>> >> > it
>> >> > was
>> >> > pretty ok... A bit Steve Reich at times, but that no bad thing!
>> >> >
>> >> > M
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Ricky Graham
>> >> > <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Sounds to me like you are sending MIDI note on and off messages, n=
ot
>> >> >> MIDI
>> >> >> clock.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 5:57 PM, mark francombe
>> >> >> <markfrancombe@gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Weird thing, playing with some guys right now, and they need mid=
i
>> >> >> > clock
>> >> >> > from
>> >> >> > me, they say that thr clock they are getting from me has a kind =
of
>> >> >> > stop
>> >> >> > In
>> >> >> > it... So their gear is not working... Weirdly this happened to m=
e
>> >> >> > recently
>> >> >> > when this same edp was plugged into the repeater, the repeater
>> >> >> > would
>> >> >> > just
>> >> >> > stop after one note...
>> >> >> > Help
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > M
>> >> >> > Sent from my (advertisement removed)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Mark Francombe
>> >> > www.markfrancombe.com
>> >> > www.ordoabkhao.com
>> >> > http://vimeo.com/user825094
>> >> > http://www.looop.no
>> >> > twitter @markfrancombe
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Mark Francombe
> www.markfrancombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no
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have you thought of changing between Out to OuS (suspended mode for midi se=
ttings) this give clock with no start / stop info?

I still think its the offsets because it sounds excactly like the issue i h=
ad..but i may be wrong.



> Date: Mon=2C 5 Sep 2011 10:20:35 +0100
> Subject: Re: Midi out from edp.
> From: rickygrahammusic@gmail.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=20
> There are set MIDI note commands that the EDP receives to trigger a
> particular function. You need to have a look at the manual and match
> it up with the notes your sending.
>=20
> On Mon=2C Sep 5=2C 2011 at 10:17 AM=2C mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe=
.com> wrote:
> > Ahh=2C going off track here I think guys.. good point tho Philip...
> >
> > What Im talking about is nothing to do with offset I think=2C as I dont=
 have
> > to be sending ANYTHING from my foot controller.. when I look at midi
> > monitor=2C Im getting stop commands mixed in with the clock timing puls=
es=2C but
> > on the OTHER EDP=2C nothing... just clean midi clock... but I do rememb=
er
> > something about the timing midi beeps... I havent had a chance to check
> > Manual yet=2C since your hint Ricky=2C but maybe Philip is right=2C may=
be those
> > beeps are affected by offset.. have to check... but its NOT a note off =
Im
> > getting=2C its a stop song (I think)
> >
> > M
> >
> > On Mon=2C Sep 5=2C 2011 at 11:10 AM=2C Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@g=
mail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> If in doubt=2C look at the manual :-) They list MIDI note number
> >> commands. Perhaps you are sending a command you are unaware of.
> >>
> >> On Mon=2C Sep 5=2C 2011 at 10:02 AM=2C phillip wilson <phillwilson@hot=
mail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > ok i know this one......................
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > what number ofset are you using ???
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > there are some odd notes that get sent in minus numbers bellow the
> >> > 0.........
> >> >
> >> > try altering the offset numbers for your midi commands by 10 - 20 an=
d
> >> > see
> >> > what happens.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > i had this using 3 edps............ 2 would send clock fine and the
> >> > third
> >> > would  just kind of instantly send a start song but also send out a
> >> > timing
> >> > pulse that kills it so on my electribe it sounded like i got a singl=
e
> >> > drum
> >> > beat.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Date: Sun=2C 4 Sep 2011 23:33:57 +0100
> >> >> Subject: Re: Midi out from edp.
> >> >> From: rickygrahammusic@gmail.com
> >> >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> >> >>
> >> >> I am not sure=2C but MIDI clock and MIDI note messages are not the =
same
> >> >> thing=2C so it could be the source of your problem. I haven't used =
my
> >> >> EDP in some time (since using Echoloop in software). Yes=2C you nee=
d
> >> >> Andy to clarify =3B) Andy?
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sun=2C Sep 4=2C 2011 at 11:24 PM=2C mark francombe
> >> >> <mark@markfrancombe.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > What? Is that possible?=2C but wait... YES...!!!
> >> >> > the edp sends little beeps on the bar and one on the beat doesnt =
it?
> >> >> > Maybe
> >> >> > THAT it?? fuckity fuck... How do I disable that.. weirdly my othe=
r
> >> >> > edp
> >> >> > doesnt do that..
> >> >> > Is this just a midi channel thing then?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I think you have put me on to something Ricky.. thx... wheres the
> >> >> > Butler
> >> >> > when you need him...?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > In the end at our rehersal=2C we just all set the same exact BPM=
=2C and
> >> >> > it
> >> >> > was
> >> >> > pretty ok... A bit Steve Reich at times=2C but that no bad thing!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > M
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Sun=2C Sep 4=2C 2011 at 7:29 PM=2C Ricky Graham
> >> >> > <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Sounds to me like you are sending MIDI note on and off messages=
=2C not
> >> >> >> MIDI
> >> >> >> clock.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Sun=2C Sep 4=2C 2011 at 5:57 PM=2C mark francombe
> >> >> >> <markfrancombe@gmail.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Weird thing=2C playing with some guys right now=2C and they ne=
ed midi
> >> >> >> > clock
> >> >> >> > from
> >> >> >> > me=2C they say that thr clock they are getting from me has a k=
ind of
> >> >> >> > stop
> >> >> >> > In
> >> >> >> > it... So their gear is not working... Weirdly this happened to=
 me
> >> >> >> > recently
> >> >> >> > when this same edp was plugged into the repeater=2C the repeat=
er
> >> >> >> > would
> >> >> >> > just
> >> >> >> > stop after one note...
> >> >> >> > Help
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > M
> >> >> >> > Sent from my (advertisement removed)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Mark Francombe
> >> >> > www.markfrancombe.com
> >> >> > www.ordoabkhao.com
> >> >> > http://vimeo.com/user825094
> >> >> > http://www.looop.no
> >> >> > twitter @markfrancombe
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
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> > Mark Francombe
> > www.markfrancombe.com
> > www.ordoabkhao.com
> > http://vimeo.com/user825094
> > http://www.looop.no
> > twitter @markfrancombe
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have you thought of changing between Out to OuS (suspended mode for midi se=
ttings) this give clock with no start / stop info?<br><br>I still think its=
 the offsets because it sounds excactly like the issue i had..but i may be =
wrong.<br><br><br><br><div>&gt=3B Date: Mon=2C 5 Sep 2011 10:20:35 +0100<br=
>&gt=3B Subject: Re: Midi out from edp.<br>&gt=3B From: rickygrahammusic@gm=
ail.com<br>&gt=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=
=3B There are set MIDI note commands that the EDP receives to trigger a<br>=
&gt=3B particular function. You need to have a look at the manual and match=
<br>&gt=3B it up with the notes your sending.<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B On Mon=
=2C Sep 5=2C 2011 at 10:17 AM=2C mark francombe &lt=3Bmark@markfrancombe.co=
m&gt=3B wrote:<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B Ahh=2C going off track here I think guys.. =
good point tho Philip...<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B What Im talking =
about is nothing to do with offset I think=2C as I dont have<br>&gt=3B &gt=
=3B to be sending ANYTHING from my foot controller.. when I look at midi<br=
>&gt=3B &gt=3B monitor=2C Im getting stop commands mixed in with the clock =
timing pulses=2C but<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B on the OTHER EDP=2C nothing... just c=
lean midi clock... but I do remember<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B something about the t=
iming midi beeps... I havent had a chance to check<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B Manual =
yet=2C since your hint Ricky=2C but maybe Philip is right=2C maybe those<br=
>&gt=3B &gt=3B beeps are affected by offset.. have to check... but its NOT =
a note off Im<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B getting=2C its a stop song (I think)<br>&gt=
=3B &gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B M<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B On Mon=2C S=
ep 5=2C 2011 at 11:10 AM=2C Ricky Graham &lt=3Brickygrahammusic@gmail.com&g=
t=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B wrote:<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B =
If in doubt=2C look at the manual :-) They list MIDI note number<br>&gt=3B =
&gt=3B&gt=3B commands. Perhaps you are sending a command you are unaware of=
.<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B On Mon=2C Sep 5=2C 2011 at =
10:02 AM=2C phillip wilson &lt=3Bphillwilson@hotmail.com&gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &g=
t=3B&gt=3B wrote:<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B ok i know this one.........=
.............<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B<b=
r>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B what number ofset are you using ???<br>&gt=3B =
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &g=
t=3B there are some odd notes that get sent in minus numbers bellow the<br>=
&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B 0.........<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>&gt=
=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B try altering the offset numbers for your midi comma=
nds by 10 - 20 and<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B see<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B=
 &gt=3B what happens.<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B =
&gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B i had this using 3 edps............ 2 =
would send clock fine and the<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B third<br>&gt=3B=
 &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B would&nbsp=3B just kind of instantly send a start song=
 but also send out a<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B timing<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&=
gt=3B &gt=3B pulse that kills it so on my electribe it sounded like i got a=
 single<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B drum<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B be=
at.<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &=
gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B Date: Sun=2C 4 Sep 2=
011 23:33:57 +0100<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B Subject: Re: Midi ou=
t from edp.<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B From: rickygrahammusic@gmai=
l.com<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig=
ht.com<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=
=3B I am not sure=2C but MIDI clock and MIDI note messages are not the same=
<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B thing=2C so it could be the source of =
your problem. I haven't used my<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B EDP in =
some time (since using Echoloop in software). Yes=2C you need<br>&gt=3B &gt=
=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B Andy to clarify =3B) Andy?<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &g=
t=3B&gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B On Sun=2C Sep 4=2C 2011 at 1=
1:24 PM=2C mark francombe<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &lt=3Bmark@ma=
rkfrancombe.com&gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B wrote:<br>&gt=3B =
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B What? Is that possible?=2C but wait... YES=
...!!!<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B the edp sends little beep=
s on the bar and one on the beat doesnt it?<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&g=
t=3B &gt=3B Maybe<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B THAT it?? fuck=
ity fuck... How do I disable that.. weirdly my other<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B=
 &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B edp<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B doesnt =
do that..<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B Is this just a midi ch=
annel thing then?<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=
=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B I think you have put me on to something Ricky=
.. thx... wheres the<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B Butler<br>&=
gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B when you need him...?<br>&gt=3B &gt=
=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B In=
 the end at our rehersal=2C we just all set the same exact BPM=2C and<br>&g=
t=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B it<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=
=3B &gt=3B was<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B pretty ok... A bi=
t Steve Reich at times=2C but that no bad thing!<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=
=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B M<br>&gt=3B &gt=
=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B<br=
>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B On Sun=2C Sep 4=2C 2011 at 7:29 PM=
=2C Ricky Graham<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B &lt=3Brickygrah=
ammusic@gmail.com&gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B wrote:<b=
r>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=
=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B Sounds to me like you are sending MIDI note on and o=
ff messages=2C not<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B MIDI<br=
>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B clock.<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=
=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=
=3B On Sun=2C Sep 4=2C 2011 at 5:57 PM=2C mark francombe<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&g=
t=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &lt=3Bmarkfrancombe@gmail.com&gt=3B<br>&gt=
=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B wrote:<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &g=
t=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&g=
t=3B &gt=3B Weird thing=2C playing with some guys right now=2C and they nee=
d midi<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B clock<br>&gt=
=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B from<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=
=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B me=2C they say that thr clock they are=
 getting from me has a kind of<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&g=
t=3B &gt=3B stop<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B In=
<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B it... So their gea=
r is not working... Weirdly this happened to me<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=
=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B recently<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B =
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B when this same edp was plugged into the repeater=2C the=
 repeater<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B would<br>=
&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B just<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&=
gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B stop after one note...<br>&gt=3B &gt=
=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B Help<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=
=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=
=3B &gt=3B M<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B Sent f=
rom my (advertisement removed)<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B<b=
r>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=
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t=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B Mark Francombe<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B=
 &gt=3B www.markfrancombe.com<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B ww=
w.ordoabkhao.com<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B http://vimeo.co=
m/user825094<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B http://www.looop.no=
<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B twitter @markfrancombe<br>&gt=
=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B<br=
>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>&gt=
=3B &gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B --<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B Mark Franc=
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oh and in my instance it was sending this command to external gear even fro=
m the front panel so it wasn't foot controller related as such. simply endi=
ng record with a incorrectly setup offset yielded this even off the front b=
uttons

From: mark@markfrancombe.com
Date: Mon=2C 5 Sep 2011 11:17:28 +0200
Subject: Re: Midi out from edp.
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Ahh=2C going off track here I think guys.. good point tho Philip...=20

What Im talking about is nothing to do with offset I think=2C as I dont hav=
e to be sending ANYTHING from my foot controller.. when I look at midi moni=
tor=2C Im getting stop commands mixed in with the clock timing pulses=2C bu=
t on the OTHER EDP=2C nothing... just clean midi clock... but I do remember=
 something about the timing midi beeps... I havent had a chance to check Ma=
nual yet=2C since your hint Ricky=2C but maybe Philip is right=2C maybe tho=
se beeps are affected by offset.. have to check... but its NOT a note off I=
m getting=2C its a stop song (I think)



M

On Mon=2C Sep 5=2C 2011 at 11:10 AM=2C Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail=
.com> wrote:


If in doubt=2C look at the manual :-) They list MIDI note number

commands. Perhaps you are sending a command you are unaware of.



On Mon=2C Sep 5=2C 2011 at 10:02 AM=2C phillip wilson <phillwilson@hotmail.=
com> wrote:

> ok i know this one......................

>

>

> what number ofset are you using ???

>

>

> there are some odd notes that get sent in minus numbers bellow the

> 0.........

>

> try altering the offset numbers for your midi commands by 10 - 20 and see

> what happens.

>

>

> i had this using 3 edps............ 2 would send clock fine and the third

> would  just kind of instantly send a start song but also send out a timin=
g

> pulse that kills it so on my electribe it sounded like i got a single dru=
m

> beat.

>

>

>

>> Date: Sun=2C 4 Sep 2011 23:33:57 +0100

>> Subject: Re: Midi out from edp.

>> From: rickygrahammusic@gmail.com

>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

>>

>> I am not sure=2C but MIDI clock and MIDI note messages are not the same

>> thing=2C so it could be the source of your problem. I haven't used my

>> EDP in some time (since using Echoloop in software). Yes=2C you need

>> Andy to clarify =3B) Andy?

>>

>> On Sun=2C Sep 4=2C 2011 at 11:24 PM=2C mark francombe <mark@markfrancomb=
e.com>

>> wrote:

>> > What? Is that possible?=2C but wait... YES...!!!

>> > the edp sends little beeps on the bar and one on the beat doesnt it?

>> > Maybe

>> > THAT it?? fuckity fuck... How do I disable that.. weirdly my other edp

>> > doesnt do that..

>> > Is this just a midi channel thing then?

>> >

>> > I think you have put me on to something Ricky.. thx... wheres the Butl=
er

>> > when you need him...?

>> >

>> > In the end at our rehersal=2C we just all set the same exact BPM=2C an=
d it

>> > was

>> > pretty ok... A bit Steve Reich at times=2C but that no bad thing!

>> >

>> > M

>> >

>> >

>> > On Sun=2C Sep 4=2C 2011 at 7:29 PM=2C Ricky Graham

>> > <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com>

>> > wrote:

>> >>

>> >> Sounds to me like you are sending MIDI note on and off messages=2C no=
t

>> >> MIDI

>> >> clock.

>> >>

>> >> On Sun=2C Sep 4=2C 2011 at 5:57 PM=2C mark francombe

>> >> <markfrancombe@gmail.com>

>> >> wrote:

>> >> >

>> >> > Weird thing=2C playing with some guys right now=2C and they need mi=
di

>> >> > clock

>> >> > from

>> >> > me=2C they say that thr clock they are getting from me has a kind o=
f

>> >> > stop

>> >> > In

>> >> > it... So their gear is not working... Weirdly this happened to me

>> >> > recently

>> >> > when this same edp was plugged into the repeater=2C the repeater wo=
uld

>> >> > just

>> >> > stop after one note...

>> >> > Help

>> >> >

>> >> > M

>> >> > Sent from my (advertisement removed)

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > --

>> > Mark Francombe

>> > www.markfrancombe.com

>> > www.ordoabkhao.com

>> > http://vimeo.com/user825094

>> > http://www.looop.no

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oh and in my instance it was sending this command to external gear even fro=
m the front panel so it wasn't foot controller related as such. simply endi=
ng record with a incorrectly setup offset yielded this even off the front b=
uttons<br><br><div><hr id=3D"stopSpelling">From: mark@markfrancombe.com<br>=
Date: Mon=2C 5 Sep 2011 11:17:28 +0200<br>Subject: Re: Midi out from edp.<b=
r>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br><br>Ahh=2C going off track her=
e I think guys.. good point tho Philip... <br><br>What Im talking about is =
nothing to do with offset I think=2C as I dont have to be sending ANYTHING =
from my foot controller.. when I look at midi monitor=2C Im getting stop co=
mmands mixed in with the clock timing pulses=2C but on the OTHER EDP=2C not=
hing... just clean midi clock... but I do remember something about the timi=
ng midi beeps... I havent had a chance to check Manual yet=2C since your hi=
nt Ricky=2C but maybe Philip is right=2C maybe those beeps are affected by =
offset.. have to check... but its NOT a note off Im getting=2C its a stop s=
ong (I think)<br>

<br>M<br><br><div class=3D"ecxgmail_quote">On Mon=2C Sep 5=2C 2011 at 11:10=
 AM=2C Ricky Graham <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=3B<a href=3D"mailto:rickygrahammu=
sic@gmail.com">rickygrahammusic@gmail.com</a>&gt=3B</span> wrote:<br><block=
quote class=3D"ecxgmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204=2C 2=
04=2C 204)=3B padding-left: 1ex=3B">

If in doubt=2C look at the manual :-) They list MIDI note number<br>
commands. Perhaps you are sending a command you are unaware of.<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
On Mon=2C Sep 5=2C 2011 at 10:02 AM=2C phillip wilson &lt=3B<a href=3D"mail=
to:phillwilson@hotmail.com">phillwilson@hotmail.com</a>&gt=3B wrote:<br>
&gt=3B ok i know this one......................<br>
&gt=3B<br>
&gt=3B<br>
&gt=3B what number ofset are you using ???<br>
&gt=3B<br>
&gt=3B<br>
&gt=3B there are some odd notes that get sent in minus numbers bellow the<b=
r>
&gt=3B 0.........<br>
&gt=3B<br>
&gt=3B try altering the offset numbers for your midi commands by 10 - 20 an=
d see<br>
&gt=3B what happens.<br>
&gt=3B<br>
&gt=3B<br>
&gt=3B i had this using 3 edps............ 2 would send clock fine and the =
third<br>
&gt=3B would&nbsp=3B just kind of instantly send a start song but also send=
 out a timing<br>
&gt=3B pulse that kills it so on my electribe it sounded like i got a singl=
e drum<br>
&gt=3B beat.<br>
&gt=3B<br>
&gt=3B<br>
&gt=3B<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B Date: Sun=2C 4 Sep 2011 23:33:57 +0100<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B Subject: Re: Midi out from edp.<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B From: <a href=3D"mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com">rickygraha=
mmusic@gmail.com</a><br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loo=
pers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B I am not sure=2C but MIDI clock and MIDI note messages are not=
 the same<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B thing=2C so it could be the source of your problem. I haven't =
used my<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B EDP in some time (since using Echoloop in software). Yes=2C yo=
u need<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B Andy to clarify =3B) Andy?<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B On Sun=2C Sep 4=2C 2011 at 11:24 PM=2C mark francombe &lt=3B<a=
 href=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt=3B<br=
>
&gt=3B&gt=3B wrote:<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B What? Is that possible?=2C but wait... YES...!!!<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B the edp sends little beeps on the bar and one on the be=
at doesnt it?<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B Maybe<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B THAT it?? fuckity fuck... How do I disable that.. weird=
ly my other edp<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B doesnt do that..<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B Is this just a midi channel thing then?<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B I think you have put me on to something Ricky.. thx... =
wheres the Butler<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B when you need him...?<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B In the end at our rehersal=2C we just all set the same =
exact BPM=2C and it<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B was<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B pretty ok... A bit Steve Reich at times=2C but that no =
bad thing!<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B M<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B On Sun=2C Sep 4=2C 2011 at 7:29 PM=2C Ricky Graham<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B &lt=3B<a href=3D"mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com">ric=
kygrahammusic@gmail.com</a>&gt=3B<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B wrote:<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B Sounds to me like you are sending MIDI note on an=
d off messages=2C not<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B MIDI<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B clock.<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B On Sun=2C Sep 4=2C 2011 at 5:57 PM=2C mark franco=
mbe<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &lt=3B<a href=3D"mailto:markfrancombe@gmail.com">=
markfrancombe@gmail.com</a>&gt=3B<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B wrote:<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B Weird thing=2C playing with some guys righ=
t now=2C and they need midi<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B clock<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B from<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B me=2C they say that thr clock they are get=
ting from me has a kind of<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B stop<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B In<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B it... So their gear is not working... Weir=
dly this happened to me<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B recently<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B when this same edp was plugged into the re=
peater=2C the repeater would<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B just<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B stop after one note...<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B Help<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B M<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B Sent from my (advertisement removed)<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B --<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B Mark Francombe<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B <a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com" target=3D"_bla=
nk">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B <a href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com" target=3D"_blank"=
>www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B <a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" target=3D"_blan=
k">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B <a href=3D"http://www.looop.no" target=3D"_blank">http:=
//www.looop.no</a><br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B twitter @markfrancombe<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>
&gt=3B&gt=3B<br>
&gt=3B<br>
<br>
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Page 95 of the manual.

"MIDI: MIDI clocks are sent out the MIDI Out port when a loop is
recorded or a Tempo is preset. MIDI StartSong and StopSong messages
are sent automatically when you record your loops. If 8ths/Cycle is large
and your loop is short, the effective tempo may be over 400 or so beats
per minute, in which case the clocks will be turned off. See 8ths/Cycle
for a full discussion."

Philip's suggestion of using OuS is a good one.

On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 10:26 AM, phillip wilson <phillwilson@hotmail.com> w=
rote:
> oh and in my instance it was sending this command to external gear even f=
rom
> the front panel so it wasn't foot controller related as such. simply endi=
ng
> record with a incorrectly setup offset yielded this even off the front
> buttons
>
> ________________________________
> From: mark@markfrancombe.com
> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 11:17:28 +0200
> Subject: Re: Midi out from edp.
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
> Ahh, going off track here I think guys.. good point tho Philip...
>
> What Im talking about is nothing to do with offset I think, as I dont hav=
e
> to be sending ANYTHING from my foot controller.. when I look at midi
> monitor, Im getting stop commands mixed in with the clock timing pulses, =
but
> on the OTHER EDP, nothing... just clean midi clock... but I do remember
> something about the timing midi beeps... I havent had a chance to check
> Manual yet, since your hint Ricky, but maybe Philip is right, maybe those
> beeps are affected by offset.. have to check... but its NOT a note off Im
> getting, its a stop song (I think)
>
> M
>
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com=
>
> wrote:
>
> If in doubt, look at the manual :-) They list MIDI note number
> commands. Perhaps you are sending a command you are unaware of.
>
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 10:02 AM, phillip wilson <phillwilson@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>> ok i know this one......................
>>
>>
>> what number ofset are you using ???
>>
>>
>> there are some odd notes that get sent in minus numbers bellow the
>> 0.........
>>
>> try altering the offset numbers for your midi commands by 10 - 20 and se=
e
>> what happens.
>>
>>
>> i had this using 3 edps............ 2 would send clock fine and the thir=
d
>> would=A0 just kind of instantly send a start song but also send out a ti=
ming
>> pulse that kills it so on my electribe it sounded like i got a single dr=
um
>> beat.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 23:33:57 +0100
>>> Subject: Re: Midi out from edp.
>>> From: rickygrahammusic@gmail.com
>>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>>
>>> I am not sure, but MIDI clock and MIDI note messages are not the same
>>> thing, so it could be the source of your problem. I haven't used my
>>> EDP in some time (since using Echoloop in software). Yes, you need
>>> Andy to clarify ;) Andy?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 11:24 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com=
>
>>> wrote:
>>> > What? Is that possible?, but wait... YES...!!!
>>> > the edp sends little beeps on the bar and one on the beat doesnt it?
>>> > Maybe
>>> > THAT it?? fuckity fuck... How do I disable that.. weirdly my other ed=
p
>>> > doesnt do that..
>>> > Is this just a midi channel thing then?
>>> >
>>> > I think you have put me on to something Ricky.. thx... wheres the
>>> > Butler
>>> > when you need him...?
>>> >
>>> > In the end at our rehersal, we just all set the same exact BPM, and i=
t
>>> > was
>>> > pretty ok... A bit Steve Reich at times, but that no bad thing!
>>> >
>>> > M
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Ricky Graham
>>> > <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Sounds to me like you are sending MIDI note on and off messages, not
>>> >> MIDI
>>> >> clock.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 5:57 PM, mark francombe
>>> >> <markfrancombe@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Weird thing, playing with some guys right now, and they need midi
>>> >> > clock
>>> >> > from
>>> >> > me, they say that thr clock they are getting from me has a kind of
>>> >> > stop
>>> >> > In
>>> >> > it... So their gear is not working... Weirdly this happened to me
>>> >> > recently
>>> >> > when this same edp was plugged into the repeater, the repeater wou=
ld
>>> >> > just
>>> >> > stop after one note...
>>> >> > Help
>>> >> >
>>> >> > M
>>> >> > Sent from my (advertisement removed)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Mark Francombe
>>> > www.markfrancombe.com
>>> > www.ordoabkhao.com
>>> > http://vimeo.com/user825094
>>> > http://www.looop.no
>>> > twitter @markfrancombe
>>> >
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Mark Francombe
> www.markfrancombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no
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I hate to see you suffer, Frank

what do you mean by "stop" ? Mute? Reset? crash?
yes there are MIDI notes for sync always sent
so if the two EDPs do not have the same Note# (I guess thats what they =
call offset) those notes can do ugly things
if thats not it, maybe you can look at MIDI with some tool?

I think OuS would be worse, because it does send Start/StopSong

On 5 Sep 2011, at 06:17, mark francombe wrote:

> Ahh, going off track here I think guys.. good point tho Philip...=20
>=20
> What Im talking about is nothing to do with offset I think, as I dont =
have to be sending ANYTHING from my foot controller.. when I look at =
midi monitor, Im getting stop commands mixed in with the clock timing =
pulses, but on the OTHER EDP, nothing... just clean midi clock... but I =
do remember something about the timing midi beeps... I havent had a =
chance to check Manual yet, since your hint Ricky, but maybe Philip is =
right, maybe those beeps are affected by offset.. have to check... but =
its NOT a note off Im getting, its a stop song (I think)
>=20
> M
>=20
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Ricky Graham =
<rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> wrote:
> If in doubt, look at the manual :-) They list MIDI note number
> commands. Perhaps you are sending a command you are unaware of.
>=20
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 10:02 AM, phillip wilson =
<phillwilson@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > ok i know this one......................
> >
> >
> > what number ofset are you using ???
> >
> >
> > there are some odd notes that get sent in minus numbers bellow the
> > 0.........
> >
> > try altering the offset numbers for your midi commands by 10 - 20 =
and see
> > what happens.
> >
> >
> > i had this using 3 edps............ 2 would send clock fine and the =
third
> > would  just kind of instantly send a start song but also send out a =
timing
> > pulse that kills it so on my electribe it sounded like i got a =
single drum
> > beat.
> >
> >
> >
> >> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 23:33:57 +0100
> >> Subject: Re: Midi out from edp.
> >> From: rickygrahammusic@gmail.com
> >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> >>
> >> I am not sure, but MIDI clock and MIDI note messages are not the =
same
> >> thing, so it could be the source of your problem. I haven't used my
> >> EDP in some time (since using Echoloop in software). Yes, you need
> >> Andy to clarify ;) Andy?
> >>
> >> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 11:24 PM, mark francombe =
<mark@markfrancombe.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > What? Is that possible?, but wait... YES...!!!
> >> > the edp sends little beeps on the bar and one on the beat doesnt =
it?
> >> > Maybe
> >> > THAT it?? fuckity fuck... How do I disable that.. weirdly my =
other edp
> >> > doesnt do that..
> >> > Is this just a midi channel thing then?
> >> >
> >> > I think you have put me on to something Ricky.. thx... wheres the =
Butler
> >> > when you need him...?
> >> >
> >> > In the end at our rehersal, we just all set the same exact BPM, =
and it
> >> > was
> >> > pretty ok... A bit Steve Reich at times, but that no bad thing!
> >> >
> >> > M
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Ricky Graham
> >> > <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Sounds to me like you are sending MIDI note on and off messages, =
not
> >> >> MIDI
> >> >> clock.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 5:57 PM, mark francombe
> >> >> <markfrancombe@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Weird thing, playing with some guys right now, and they need =
midi
> >> >> > clock
> >> >> > from
> >> >> > me, they say that thr clock they are getting from me has a =
kind of
> >> >> > stop
> >> >> > In
> >> >> > it... So their gear is not working... Weirdly this happened to =
me
> >> >> > recently
> >> >> > when this same edp was plugged into the repeater, the repeater =
would
> >> >> > just
> >> >> > stop after one note...
> >> >> > Help
> >> >> >
> >> >> > M
> >> >> > Sent from my (advertisement removed)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Mark Francombe
> >> > www.markfrancombe.com
> >> > www.ordoabkhao.com
> >> > http://vimeo.com/user825094
> >> > http://www.looop.no
> >> > twitter @markfrancombe
> >> >
> >>
> >
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> Mark Francombe
> www.markfrancombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no
> twitter @markfrancombe


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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I =
hate to see you suffer, Frank<div><br></div><div>what do you mean by =
"stop" ? Mute? Reset? crash?</div><div>yes there are MIDI notes for sync =
always sent</div><div>so if the two EDPs do not have the same Note# (I =
guess thats what they call offset) those notes can do ugly =
things</div><div>if thats not it, maybe you can look at MIDI with some =
tool?</div><div><br></div><div>I think OuS would be worse, because it =
does send Start/StopSong</div><div><br><div><div>On 5 Sep 2011, at =
06:17, mark francombe wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite">Ahh, going =
off track here I think guys.. good point tho Philip... <br><br>What Im =
talking about is nothing to do with offset I think, as I dont have to be =
sending ANYTHING from my foot controller.. when I look at midi monitor, =
Im getting stop commands mixed in with the clock timing pulses, but on =
the OTHER EDP, nothing... just clean midi clock... but I do remember =
something about the timing midi beeps... I havent had a chance to check =
Manual yet, since your hint Ricky, but maybe Philip is right, maybe =
those beeps are affected by offset.. have to check... but its NOT a note =
off Im getting, its a stop song (I think)<br>

<br>M<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 11:10 AM, =
Ricky Graham <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com">rickygrahammusic@gmail.com</a>&=
gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 =
0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">

If in doubt, look at the manual :-) They list MIDI note number<br>
commands. Perhaps you are sending a command you are unaware of.<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 10:02 AM, phillip wilson &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:phillwilson@hotmail.com">phillwilson@hotmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br>
&gt; ok i know this one......................<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; what number ofset are you using ???<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; there are some odd notes that get sent in minus numbers bellow =
the<br>
&gt; 0.........<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; try altering the offset numbers for your midi commands by 10 - 20 =
and see<br>
&gt; what happens.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; i had this using 3 edps............ 2 would send clock fine and the =
third<br>
&gt; would&nbsp; just kind of instantly send a start song but also send =
out a timing<br>
&gt; pulse that kills it so on my electribe it sounded like i got a =
single drum<br>
&gt; beat.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 23:33:57 +0100<br>
&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: Midi out from edp.<br>
&gt;&gt; From: <a =
href=3D"mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com">rickygrahammusic@gmail.com</a><=
br>
&gt;&gt; To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I am not sure, but MIDI clock and MIDI note messages are not =
the same<br>
&gt;&gt; thing, so it could be the source of your problem. I haven't =
used my<br>
&gt;&gt; EDP in some time (since using Echoloop in software). Yes, you =
need<br>
&gt;&gt; Andy to clarify ;) Andy?<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 11:24 PM, mark francombe &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; What? Is that possible?, but wait... YES...!!!<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; the edp sends little beeps on the bar and one on the beat =
doesnt it?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Maybe<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; THAT it?? fuckity fuck... How do I disable that.. weirdly =
my other edp<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; doesnt do that..<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Is this just a midi channel thing then?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; I think you have put me on to something Ricky.. thx... =
wheres the Butler<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; when you need him...?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; In the end at our rehersal, we just all set the same exact =
BPM, and it<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; was<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; pretty ok... A bit Steve Reich at times, but that no bad =
thing!<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; M<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Ricky Graham<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com">rickygrahammusic@gmail.com</a>&=
gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Sounds to me like you are sending MIDI note on and off =
messages, not<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; MIDI<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; clock.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 5:57 PM, mark francombe<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:markfrancombe@gmail.com">markfrancombe@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br=
>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Weird thing, playing with some guys right now, =
and they need midi<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; clock<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; from<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; me, they say that thr clock they are getting from =
me has a kind of<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; stop<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; In<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; it... So their gear is not working... Weirdly =
this happened to me<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; recently<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; when this same edp was plugged into the repeater, =
the repeater would<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; just<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; stop after one note...<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Help<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; M<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Sent from my (advertisement removed)<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Mark Francombe<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; <a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; <a href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; <a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" =
target=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; <a href=3D"http://www.looop.no/" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.looop.no</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; twitter @markfrancombe<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><i =
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255);background-color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><font style=3D"font-family:trebuchet =
ms,sans-serif" size=3D"4"><u>Mark Francombe</u></font></i><br>

<font size=3D"1"><a style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" =
href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, =
51)"><a style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com/"=
 target=3D"_blank">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, =
51)">

<a style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" =
target=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br =
style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)"><a style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" =
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twitter @markfrancombe</font><br>
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I hate to see you suffer, Mark

what do you mean by "stop" ? Mute? Reset? crash?
yes there are MIDI notes for sync always sent
so if the two EDPs do not have the same Note# (I guess thats what they =
call offset) those notes can do ugly things
if thats not it, maybe you can look at MIDI with some tool?

I think OuS would be worse, because it does send Start/StopSong

On 5 Sep 2011, at 06:17, mark francombe wrote:

> Ahh, going off track here I think guys.. good point tho Philip...=20
>=20
> What Im talking about is nothing to do with offset I think, as I dont =
have to be sending ANYTHING from my foot controller.. when I look at =
midi monitor, Im getting stop commands mixed in with the clock timing =
pulses, but on the OTHER EDP, nothing... just clean midi clock... but I =
do remember something about the timing midi beeps... I havent had a =
chance to check Manual yet, since your hint Ricky, but maybe Philip is =
right, maybe those beeps are affected by offset.. have to check... but =
its NOT a note off Im getting, its a stop song (I think)
>=20
> M
>=20
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Ricky Graham =
<rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> wrote:
> If in doubt, look at the manual :-) They list MIDI note number
> commands. Perhaps you are sending a command you are unaware of.
>=20
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 10:02 AM, phillip wilson =
<phillwilson@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > ok i know this one......................
> >
> >
> > what number ofset are you using ???
> >
> >
> > there are some odd notes that get sent in minus numbers bellow the
> > 0.........
> >
> > try altering the offset numbers for your midi commands by 10 - 20 =
and see
> > what happens.
> >
> >
> > i had this using 3 edps............ 2 would send clock fine and the =
third
> > would  just kind of instantly send a start song but also send out a =
timing
> > pulse that kills it so on my electribe it sounded like i got a =
single drum
> > beat.
> >
> >
> >
> >> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 23:33:57 +0100
> >> Subject: Re: Midi out from edp.
> >> From: rickygrahammusic@gmail.com
> >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> >>
> >> I am not sure, but MIDI clock and MIDI note messages are not the =
same
> >> thing, so it could be the source of your problem. I haven't used my
> >> EDP in some time (since using Echoloop in software). Yes, you need
> >> Andy to clarify ;) Andy?
> >>
> >> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 11:24 PM, mark francombe =
<mark@markfrancombe.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > What? Is that possible?, but wait... YES...!!!
> >> > the edp sends little beeps on the bar and one on the beat doesnt =
it?
> >> > Maybe
> >> > THAT it?? fuckity fuck... How do I disable that.. weirdly my =
other edp
> >> > doesnt do that..
> >> > Is this just a midi channel thing then?
> >> >
> >> > I think you have put me on to something Ricky.. thx... wheres the =
Butler
> >> > when you need him...?
> >> >
> >> > In the end at our rehersal, we just all set the same exact BPM, =
and it
> >> > was
> >> > pretty ok... A bit Steve Reich at times, but that no bad thing!
> >> >
> >> > M
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Ricky Graham
> >> > <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Sounds to me like you are sending MIDI note on and off messages, =
not
> >> >> MIDI
> >> >> clock.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 5:57 PM, mark francombe
> >> >> <markfrancombe@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Weird thing, playing with some guys right now, and they need =
midi
> >> >> > clock
> >> >> > from
> >> >> > me, they say that thr clock they are getting from me has a =
kind of
> >> >> > stop
> >> >> > In
> >> >> > it... So their gear is not working... Weirdly this happened to =
me
> >> >> > recently
> >> >> > when this same edp was plugged into the repeater, the repeater =
would
> >> >> > just
> >> >> > stop after one note...
> >> >> > Help
> >> >> >
> >> >> > M
> >> >> > Sent from my (advertisement removed)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Mark Francombe
> >> > www.markfrancombe.com
> >> > www.ordoabkhao.com
> >> > http://vimeo.com/user825094
> >> > http://www.looop.no
> >> > twitter @markfrancombe
> >> >
> >>
> >
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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I =
hate to see you suffer, Mark<div><br></div><div>what do you mean by =
"stop" ? Mute? Reset? crash?</div><div>yes there are MIDI notes for sync =
always sent</div><div>so if the two EDPs do not have the same Note# (I =
guess thats what they call offset) those notes can do ugly =
things</div><div>if thats not it, maybe you can look at MIDI with some =
tool?</div><div><br></div><div>I think OuS would be worse, because it =
does send Start/StopSong</div><div><br><div><div>On 5 Sep 2011, at =
06:17, mark francombe wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite">Ahh, going =
off track here I think guys.. good point tho Philip... <br><br>What Im =
talking about is nothing to do with offset I think, as I dont have to be =
sending ANYTHING from my foot controller.. when I look at midi monitor, =
Im getting stop commands mixed in with the clock timing pulses, but on =
the OTHER EDP, nothing... just clean midi clock... but I do remember =
something about the timing midi beeps... I havent had a chance to check =
Manual yet, since your hint Ricky, but maybe Philip is right, maybe =
those beeps are affected by offset.. have to check... but its NOT a note =
off Im getting, its a stop song (I think)<br>

<br>M<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 11:10 AM, =
Ricky Graham <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com">rickygrahammusic@gmail.com</a>&=
gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 =
0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">

If in doubt, look at the manual :-) They list MIDI note number<br>
commands. Perhaps you are sending a command you are unaware of.<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 10:02 AM, phillip wilson &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:phillwilson@hotmail.com">phillwilson@hotmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br>
&gt; ok i know this one......................<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; what number ofset are you using ???<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; there are some odd notes that get sent in minus numbers bellow =
the<br>
&gt; 0.........<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; try altering the offset numbers for your midi commands by 10 - 20 =
and see<br>
&gt; what happens.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; i had this using 3 edps............ 2 would send clock fine and the =
third<br>
&gt; would&nbsp; just kind of instantly send a start song but also send =
out a timing<br>
&gt; pulse that kills it so on my electribe it sounded like i got a =
single drum<br>
&gt; beat.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 23:33:57 +0100<br>
&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: Midi out from edp.<br>
&gt;&gt; From: <a =
href=3D"mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com">rickygrahammusic@gmail.com</a><=
br>
&gt;&gt; To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I am not sure, but MIDI clock and MIDI note messages are not =
the same<br>
&gt;&gt; thing, so it could be the source of your problem. I haven't =
used my<br>
&gt;&gt; EDP in some time (since using Echoloop in software). Yes, you =
need<br>
&gt;&gt; Andy to clarify ;) Andy?<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 11:24 PM, mark francombe &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; What? Is that possible?, but wait... YES...!!!<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; the edp sends little beeps on the bar and one on the beat =
doesnt it?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Maybe<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; THAT it?? fuckity fuck... How do I disable that.. weirdly =
my other edp<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; doesnt do that..<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Is this just a midi channel thing then?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; I think you have put me on to something Ricky.. thx... =
wheres the Butler<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; when you need him...?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; In the end at our rehersal, we just all set the same exact =
BPM, and it<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; was<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; pretty ok... A bit Steve Reich at times, but that no bad =
thing!<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; M<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Ricky Graham<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com">rickygrahammusic@gmail.com</a>&=
gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Sounds to me like you are sending MIDI note on and off =
messages, not<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; MIDI<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; clock.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 5:57 PM, mark francombe<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:markfrancombe@gmail.com">markfrancombe@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br=
>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Weird thing, playing with some guys right now, =
and they need midi<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; clock<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; from<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; me, they say that thr clock they are getting from =
me has a kind of<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; stop<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; In<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; it... So their gear is not working... Weirdly =
this happened to me<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; recently<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; when this same edp was plugged into the repeater, =
the repeater would<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; just<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; stop after one note...<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Help<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; M<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Sent from my (advertisement removed)<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Mark Francombe<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; <a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; <a href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; <a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" =
target=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; <a href=3D"http://www.looop.no/" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.looop.no</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; twitter @markfrancombe<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><i =
style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(255, 255, =
255);background-color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><font style=3D"font-family:trebuchet =
ms,sans-serif" size=3D"4"><u>Mark Francombe</u></font></i><br>

<font size=3D"1"><a style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" =
href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, =
51)"><a style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com/"=
 target=3D"_blank">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, =
51)">

<a style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" =
target=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br =
style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)"><a style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" =
href=3D"http://www.looop.no/" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.looop.no</a><br>

twitter @markfrancombe</font><br>
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mark francombe wrote:

> I think you have put me on to something Ricky.. thx... wheres the Butler 
> when you need him...?

off on holiday without email access

I think this is why there are those extra Syncmodes.
To chose whether Midi Stop and Start were sent.

iirc    Syncmode = Out 
is the one that just sends clock

ii(don't)rc 
then it's Syncmode =OuS that you want.

but then with Phil's hint you probably got that by now.

andy
ps
Didn't you have some problem with those midi-Notes before?
Would it be essential to make them switch-able if included
in future hardware?
 




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> I think OuS would be worse, because it does send Start/StopSong

Does it? It says in the manual that you need to send them manually
when using OuS. Maybe I am mistaken:

OUT USER START (OUS)
MIDI: MIDI clocks are sent out the MIDI Out port when a loop is
recorded or a Tempo is preset. MIDI StartSong messages are not sent
automatically when you record your loops. *StartSong and StopSong
commands must be sent manually by executing the various functions
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andy
ps
Didn't you have some problem with those midi-Notes before?
Would it be essential to make them switch-able if included
in future hardware



Sure why not? But i didn't have a problem Actually, they were usefull, as i
used them to "play" a synth that had an on board sequencer, but needed midi
note to start.

Im still not home so i can't try any of these suggestions, but i think if My
mate can somehow filter away note info, but keep clock, I Think were sorted!

M

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with those midi-Notes before?</span><br>
<span>Would it be essential to make them switch-able if included</span><br>=
<span>in future hardware</span><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><=
br></div>Sure why not? But i didn&#39;t have a problem Actually, they were =
usefull, as i used them to &quot;play&quot; a synth that had an on board se=
quencer, but needed midi note to start.<div>
<br></div><div>Im still not home so i can&#39;t try any of these suggestion=
s, but i think if My mate can somehow filter away note info, but keep clock=
, I Think were sorted!</div><div><br></div><div>M</div><div><br></div><div>
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I would also join the voices urging all throughput to ne switchable........=
case in point if I use my downstream proteus  without filtering out the cha=
nnel that the EDP is set to i get the "ticks" on that midi note channel as =
actual short duration midi notes....not ideal!!



> Date: Mon=2C 5 Sep 2011 16:04:19 +0100
> From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: Midi out from edp.
>=20
> mark francombe wrote:
>=20
> > I think you have put me on to something Ricky.. thx... wheres the Butle=
r=20
> > when you need him...?
>=20
> off on holiday without email access
>=20
> I think this is why there are those extra Syncmodes.
> To chose whether Midi Stop and Start were sent.
>=20
> iirc    Syncmode =3D Out=20
> is the one that just sends clock
>=20
> ii(don't)rc=20
> then it's Syncmode =3DOuS that you want.
>=20
> but then with Phil's hint you probably got that by now.
>=20
> andy
> ps
> Didn't you have some problem with those midi-Notes before?
> Would it be essential to make them switch-able if included
> in future hardware?
> =20
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I would also join the voices urging all throughput to ne switchable........=
case in point if I use my downstream proteus&nbsp=3B without filtering out =
the channel that the EDP is set to i get the "ticks" on that midi note chan=
nel as actual short duration midi notes....not ideal!!<br><br><br><br><div>=
&gt=3B Date: Mon=2C 5 Sep 2011 16:04:19 +0100<br>&gt=3B From: akbutler@tisc=
ali.co.uk<br>&gt=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>&gt=3B Subje=
ct: Re: Midi out from edp.<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B mark francombe wrote:<br>&g=
t=3B <br>&gt=3B &gt=3B I think you have put me on to something Ricky.. thx.=
.. wheres the Butler <br>&gt=3B &gt=3B when you need him...?<br>&gt=3B <br>=
&gt=3B off on holiday without email access<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B I think thi=
s is why there are those extra Syncmodes.<br>&gt=3B To chose whether Midi S=
top and Start were sent.<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B iirc    Syncmode =3D Out <br>=
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Mind you, notes are sent on a channel, so surely its just to switch
channels on the synth...?

Sent from my (advertisement removed)

On 5 Sep 2011, at 17:44, phillip wilson <phillwilson@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I would also join the voices urging all throughput to ne switchable......=
..case in point if I use my downstream proteus  without filtering out the c=
hannel that the EDP is set to i get the "ticks" on that midi note channel a=
s actual short duration midi notes....not ideal!!
>
>
>
> > Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 16:04:19 +0100
> > From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk
> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > Subject: Re: Midi out from edp.
> >
> > mark francombe wrote:
> >
> > > I think you have put me on to something Ricky.. thx... wheres the But=
ler
> > > when you need him...?
> >
> > off on holiday without email access
> >
> > I think this is why there are those extra Syncmodes.
> > To chose whether Midi Stop and Start were sent.
> >
> > iirc Syncmode =3D Out
> > is the one that just sends clock
> >
> > ii(don't)rc
> > then it's Syncmode =3DOuS that you want.
> >
> > but then with Phil's hint you probably got that by now.
> >
> > andy
> > ps
> > Didn't you have some problem with those midi-Notes before?
> > Would it be essential to make them switch-able if included
> > in future hardware?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

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oh, my, I programmed it 10 years ago and I never used it, sorry!

On 5 Sep 2011, at 12:25, Ricky Graham wrote:

>> I think OuS would be worse, because it does send Start/StopSong
> 
> Does it? It says in the manual that you need to send them manually
> when using OuS. Maybe I am mistaken:
> 
> OUT USER START (OUS)
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> recorded or a Tempo is preset. MIDI StartSong messages are not sent
> automatically when you record your loops. *StartSong and StopSong
> commands must be sent manually by executing the various functions
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:-) Understandable!

On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Matthias Grob <matilists@gmail.com> wrote:
> oh, my, I programmed it 10 years ago and I never used it, sorry!
>
> On 5 Sep 2011, at 12:25, Ricky Graham wrote:
>
>>> I think OuS would be worse, because it does send Start/StopSong
>>
>> Does it? It says in the manual that you need to send them manually
>> when using OuS. Maybe I am mistaken:
>>
>> OUT USER START (OUS)
>> MIDI: MIDI clocks are sent out the MIDI Out port when a loop is
>> recorded or a Tempo is preset. MIDI StartSong messages are not sent
>> automatically when you record your loops. *StartSong and StopSong
>> commands must be sent manually by executing the various functions
>> available for sending them. (cf. p. 95)
>>
>
>

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Matt
I can remember discussing with you the names for the SyncModes,
and which should be the default.

...but not what was decided, 
I don't remember it as being as how it is in the manual
quoted here, but yes it was a while back and I didn't
use that feature.

Anyway, surely either SyncMode = Out or OuS 
provides the clocks without the Stops and Starts?


andy

Matthias Grob wrote:
> oh, my, I programmed it 10 years ago and I never used it, sorry!
> 
> On 5 Sep 2011, at 12:25, Ricky Graham wrote:
> 
>> OUT USER START (OUS)
>> MIDI: MIDI clocks are sent out the MIDI Out port when a loop is
>> recorded or a Tempo is preset. MIDI StartSong messages are not sent
>> automatically when you record your loops. *StartSong and StopSong
>> commands must be sent manually by executing the various functions
>> available for sending them. (cf. p. 95)
>>
> 
> 

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Hey folks,

This is a gentle reminder to please edit your replies to long threads.

Daily Digest members received 4 digests today and 3 of them
only had two posts each in the 'Midi out from edp'  thread
because people keep copying the entire thread.

I know the Daily Digest is antiquated but some of us still use it and it's
four emails to open up instead of one.

thanks for your patience us.

rick walker

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On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

> Hey folks,
>
> This is a gentle reminder to please edit your replies to long threads.
>
> Indeed Rick! Will do!!

To be fair, this thread HAS been very long, there have been 22 mails in 2
days, and in 5 of them I can see that the previous (long) mail was replied
to. We must get better at that. However there IS something to be said for
leaving the mail below your mail, so that people that come in late can see
what you were responding too. Otherwise Rickys, insightful "Understandable"
mail, would seem somewhat out of place!
Luckily it seems that none of us were recieving the digest version, because
when that was popular..OMG, THEN we saw some long threads!!!

Best practice is always to edit the prev mail and quote the bit you wanna
comment on.

And finally, I just f***ing love the internet, this thread proves it. My
initial mail, sent mid rehearsal in Oslo in frustration was answered by
Ricky as we were still there, which gave us a hint, not a solution, but a
hint to try something that worked, and saved the evening! Then through
selfless help, many have come with suggestions, until now, finally I have
lugged my rack into place, have plugged in the midi interface, and will now
fire up midi monitor and get to the bottom of this fascinating problem!

Over and out!

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<br>
This is a gentle reminder to please edit your replies to long threads.<br>
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</blockquote></div>Indeed Rick! Will do!! <br>
<br>
To be fair, this thread HAS been very long, there have been 22 mails in 2
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replied to. We must get better at that. However there IS something to be
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late can see what you were responding too. Otherwise Rickys, insightful=20
&quot;Understandable&quot; mail, would seem somewhat out of place!<br>
Luckily it seems that none of us were recieving the digest version,=20
because when that was popular..OMG, THEN we saw some long threads!!!<br>
<br>
Best practice is always to edit the prev mail and quote the bit you wanna c=
omment on.<br>
<br>
And finally, I just f***ing love the internet, this thread proves it. My
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 Ricky as we were still there, which gave us a hint, not a solution, but
 a hint to try something that worked, and saved the evening! Then=20
through selfless help, many have come with suggestions, until now,=20
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<br>
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my bad. sorry for the slight misinformation. thank you for correcting.


> thats not the problem
> if one was only 130V it would theoretically be possible to create a short
> circuit when loaded with 230V but very unlikely
> the current through the EDP is far below 2A anyway, so if there was a fault
> in it, the internal fuse would blow, exept if there is a short cirquit right
> at its power socket.
>
> the safety switch reacts to much smaller currents that "run away" so if
> only this switches off, there may be a insulation problem in the EDP, maybe
> even a cap between power input and ground which is too big for your safety
> switch.
>
> first test would be whether the power cable itself makes the fuse blow
>
>
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my bad. sorry for the slight misinformation. thank you for correcting.<br><=
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div><br></div>thats not the problem</div><=
div>if one was only 130V it would theoretically be possible to create a sho=
rt circuit when loaded with 230V but very unlikely</div><div>the current th=
rough the EDP is far below 2A anyway, so if there was a fault in it, the in=
ternal fuse would blow, exept if there is a short cirquit right at its powe=
r socket.</div>
<div><br></div><div>the safety switch reacts to much smaller currents that =
&quot;run away&quot; so if only this switches off, there may be a insulatio=
n problem in the EDP, maybe even a cap between power input and ground which=
 is too big for your safety switch.</div>
<div><br></div><div>first test would be whether the power cable itself make=
s the fuse blow<br><blockquote><span style=3D"border-collapse: separate; fo=
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OK Boffins? (Check this is not the Facebook group) CHECK!

*Summary of findings for the faint of heart:*
Phil Wilson is correct, believe him in all future dealings, this man he
speaketh the truth. Low offset numbers are wobbly... avoid.

OK, WARNING Technical mumbo Jumbo to follow.

*Test Phase #1
The Control.*

Following are results from Nice Old EDP, which causes no trouble and set to
Source #46

21:37:26.097    From Port A    Note On    16    F#1    64
21:37:26.098    From Port A    Note On    16    G1    64
21:37:26.100    From Port A    Note Off    16    G1    0
21:37:26.101    From Port A    Note Off    16    F#1    0
21:37:26.103    From Port A    Note On    16    A1    64
21:37:26.112    From Port A    Note Off    16    A1    0
21:37:26.117    From Port A    Clock
21:37:26.140    From Port A    Clock
21:37:26.163    From Port A    Clock
21:37:26.186    From Port A    Clock
21:37:26.209    From Port A    Clock
21:37:26.232    From Port A    Clock
21:37:26.255    From Port A    Clock
21:37:26.278    From Port A    Clock
21:37:26.301    From Port A    Clock
21:37:26.324    From Port A    Clock
21:37:26.347    From Port A    Clock
21:37:26.370    From Port A    Clock
21:37:26.372    From Port A    Note On    16    F#1    64
21:37:26.373    From Port A    Note Off    16    F#1    0
21:37:26.393    From Port A    Clock
21:37:26.415    From Port A    Clock
21:37:26.438    From Port A    Clock
21:37:26.461    From Port A    Clock
21:37:26.484    From Port A    Clock
21:37:26.507    From Port A    Clock
21:37:26.530    From Port A    Clock
21:37:26.553    From Port A    Clock
21:37:26.576    From Port A    Clock
21:37:26.599    From Port A    Clock
21:37:26.622    From Port A    Clock
21:37:26.645    From Port A    Clock
21:37:26.647    From Port A    Note On    16    F#1    64
21:37:26.648    From Port A    Note Off    16    F#1    0
21:37:26.668    From Port A    Clock
21:37:26.691    From Port A    Clock
21:37:26.714    From Port A    Clock
21:37:26.736    From Port A    Clock
21:37:26.759    From Port A    Clock
21:37:26.782    From Port A    Clock
21:37:26.805    From Port A    Clock
21:37:26.828    From Port A    Clock
21:37:26.851    From Port A    Clock
21:37:26.874    From Port A    Clock
21:37:26.897    From Port A    Clock
21:37:26.920    From Port A    Clock

SUMMARY: Nice clean midi, with clock interspersed with timing notes:

*Phase #2
The Problem*
Nasty new EDP which gave me all the trouble set to source offset number of 0

21:42:37.196    From Port A    Note On    16    D-2    64
21:42:37.197    From Port A    Stop
21:42:37.199    From Port A    Invalid        1 bytes
21:42:37.201    From Port A    Invalid        1 bytes
21:42:37.204    From Port A    Reset
21:42:37.213    From Port A    Reset
21:42:37.341    From Port A    Note Off    16    D-2    0
21:42:39.384    From Port A    Note On    16    D-2    64
21:42:39.385    From Port A    Start
21:42:39.385    From Port A    Clock
21:42:39.386    From Port A    Invalid        1 bytes
21:42:39.389    From Port A    Stop
21:42:39.390    From Port A    Invalid        1 bytes
21:42:39.392    From Port A    Reset
21:42:39.394    From Port A    Stop
21:42:39.400    From Port A    Reset
21:42:39.405    From Port A    Clock
21:42:39.428    From Port A    Clock
21:42:39.452    From Port A    Clock
21:42:39.475    From Port A    Clock
21:42:39.498    From Port A    Clock
21:42:39.516    From Port A    Note Off    16    D-2    0
21:42:39.517    From Port A    Control    1    Bank Select    102
21:42:39.521    From Port A    Clock
21:42:39.542    From Port A    Clock
21:42:39.565    From Port A    Clock
21:42:39.588    From Port A    Clock
21:42:39.611    From Port A    Clock
21:42:39.634    From Port A    Clock
21:42:39.657    From Port A    Clock
21:42:39.658    From Port A    Stop
21:42:39.660    From Port A    Stop
21:42:39.679    From Port A    Clock
21:42:39.702    From Port A    Clock
21:42:39.725    From Port A    Clock

SUMMARY:
Horrible wobbly midi stuff, some Clock mixed in with some resets some
Invalids, and even some bank change commands (later, I cut the report
shorter)


*Test Phase 3#
The Solution*
changing the offset number to 75

21:58:18.982    From Port A    Note On    16    B3    64
21:58:18.984    From Port A    Note On    16    C4    64
21:58:18.985    From Port A    Note Off    16    C4    0
21:58:18.987    From Port A    Note Off    16    B3    0
21:58:18.988    From Port A    Note On    16    D4    64
21:58:18.997    From Port A    Note Off    16    D4    0
21:58:19.004    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.027    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.050    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.073    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.096    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.119    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.144    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.167    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.190    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.213    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.236    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.259    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.260    From Port A    Note On    16    B3    64
21:58:19.262    From Port A    Note Off    16    B3    0
21:58:19.283    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.306    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.329    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.352    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.376    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.399    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.422    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.446    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.469    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.492    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.515    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.538    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.540    From Port A    Note On    16    B3    64
21:58:19.541    From Port A    Note Off    16    B3    0
21:58:19.561    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.586    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.609    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.632    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.655    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.678    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.701    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.726    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.749    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.772    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.795    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.818    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.819    From Port A    Note On    16    B3    64
21:58:19.821    From Port A    Note Off    16    B3    0
21:58:19.841    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.864    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.889    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.912    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.935    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.958    From Port A    Clock
21:58:19.981    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.004    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.028    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.051    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.074    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.097    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.099    From Port A    Note On    16    B3    64
21:58:20.100    From Port A    Note Off    16    B3    0
21:58:20.120    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.143    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.167    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.191    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.214    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.237    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.260    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.283    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.306    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.331    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.354    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.377    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.378    From Port A    Note On    16    B3    64
21:58:20.380    From Port A    Note Off    16    B3    0
21:58:20.400    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.423    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.446    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.471    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.494    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.517    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.540    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.563    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.586    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.609    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.633    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.657    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.658    From Port A    Note On    16    B3    64
21:58:20.659    From Port A    Note Off    16    B3    0
21:58:20.680    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.703    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.726    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.749    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.773    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.796    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.819    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.842    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.865    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.888    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.911    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.936    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.937    From Port A    Note On    16    B3    64
21:58:20.939    From Port A    Note Off    16    B3    0
21:58:20.959    From Port A    Clock
21:58:20.982    From Port A    Clock
21:58:21.005    From Port A    Clock
21:58:21.028    From Port A    Clock
21:58:21.051    From Port A    Clock
21:58:21.076    From Port A    Clock
21:58:21.099    From Port A    Clock
21:58:21.122    From Port A    Clock
21:58:21.145    From Port A    Clock
21:58:21.168    From Port A    Clock
21:58:21.191    From Port A    Clock
21:58:21.216    From Port A    Clock
21:58:21.217    From Port A    Note On    16    B3    64
21:58:21.218    From Port A    Note On    16    C4    64
21:58:21.220    From Port A    Note Off    16    C4    0
21:58:21.221    From Port A    Note Off    16    B3    0
21:58:21.223    From Port A    Note On    16    D4    64
21:58:21.232    From Port A    Note Off    16    D4    0


SUMMARY
Nice clean midi...

SO: I have to change my midi offset. But what to? How far apart need they
be? Philip? You had 3 going at once, did you use offset?
God I have to reprogram my FCB1010.. with no editor... grrrrr!

Oh well at least I got a solution... thanks Philip!

And remember, EDIT this mail... do NOT hit reply!!

Mark

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OK My last entry in this journal of woe!

Joy Joy Happy Joy!!!

I have now tested EVERY offset number from 0 to 36. (OK I missed a few)
I can confirm, that on my EDP all midi is OK if you set the offset to
anything above 4.
So Im going to set mine to 10, and probably have to up the other one to 56 I
guess...

OUCH!
I need a pedal board I can program on screen...

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OK My last entry in this journal of woe!<br><br>Joy Joy Happy Joy!!!<br><br=
>I have now tested EVERY offset number from 0 to 36. (OK I missed a few)<br=
>I can confirm, that on my EDP all midi is OK if you set the offset to anyt=
hing above 4.<br>

So Im going to set mine to 10, and probably have to up the other one to 56 =
I guess...<br><br>OUCH! <br>I need a pedal board I can program on screen...=
<br><br>-- <br><i style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(255, 25=
5, 255);background-color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><font style=3D"font-family:trebuchet=
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yes, I sent one of the long mails, sorry

are you saying that you found a bug in the EDP, Mark??  Congrats!

easily possible that we never tested MIDINote# =3D 0
so you do that to have both EDPs on one MIDI channel... for a lack of =
channels or is there another advantage?

On 5 Sep 2011, at 17:33, mark francombe wrote:

> OK My last entry in this journal of woe!
>=20
> Joy Joy Happy Joy!!!
>=20
> I have now tested EVERY offset number from 0 to 36. (OK I missed a =
few)
> I can confirm, that on my EDP all midi is OK if you set the offset to =
anything above 4.
> So Im going to set mine to 10, and probably have to up the other one =
to 56 I guess...
>=20
> OUCH!=20
> I need a pedal board I can program on screen...
>=20

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On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 10:39 PM, Matthias Grob <matilists@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> are you saying that you found a bug in the EDP, Mark??  Congrats!
>

Well, seeing as one of my favorite features of the edp was apparently first
deemed a bug, then I say.. Carry on Matty! You make lovely bugs!


> easily possible that we never tested MIDINote# = 0
> so you do that to have both EDPs on one MIDI channel... for a lack of
> channels or is there another advantage?
>
>
Yes I do, no particular advantage, but the Behringer 1010 pedal, (Not my
pedal of choice you understand?) only has the ability to preset what midi
channel a nidi note is sent on, and that is pedal-wide, regardless of patch
or bank. So if you set Midi notes to be sent on channel 16, then all midi
notes are on channel 16. A huge limitation of an otherwise great pedal. But
not all (any) pedals are made totally with the looper in mind, I suppose...
(Although I hear Mr Gordius is pretty close)
*sigh*

*/Mark pulls out empty pockets

M.

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On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 10:39 PM, Matthias Grob <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:matilists@gmail.com">matilists@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<=
br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">


<br>
are you saying that you found a bug in the EDP, Mark?? =A0Congrats!<br></bl=
ockquote><div><br>Well, seeing as one of my favorite features of the edp wa=
s apparently first deemed a bug, then I say.. Carry on Matty! You make love=
ly bugs!=A0<br>

</div><div>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt =
0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex=
;">
easily possible that we never tested MIDINote# =3D 0<br>
so you do that to have both EDPs on one MIDI channel... for a lack of chann=
els or is there another advantage?<br>
<div><div></div><br clear=3D"all"></div></blockquote></div><br>Yes I do, no=
 particular advantage, but the Behringer 1010 pedal, (Not my pedal of choic=
e you understand?) only has the ability to preset what midi channel a nidi =
note is sent on, and that is pedal-wide, regardless of patch or bank. So if=
 you set Midi notes to be sent on channel 16, then all midi notes are on ch=
annel 16. A huge limitation of an otherwise great pedal. But not all (any) =
pedals are made totally with the looper in mind, I suppose...=A0 (Although =
I hear Mr Gordius is pretty close) <br>

*sigh*<br><br>*/Mark pulls out empty pockets<br><br>M.<br><br>-- <br><i sty=
le=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(255, 255, 255);background-co=
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Hi folks,

I've posted another video on You Tube -- it can be seen at 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fIv9YlYyZg

The music for Improvisation/Construction # 1 was performed by Jacob 
William, Forbes Graham and Kevin Frenette (The "JFK Trio", my name 
for them) at Outpost 186 in Cambridge on June 26, 2011. I attended 
that concert, and took a lot of video footage of the performers. 
Kevin gave me a recording of the set, and I selected a section and 
constructed the video by processing footage from the show and 
combining the footage  with other imagery from my library. I used a 
lot of footage of mist, taken from the back deck of the family 
lakeside cottage.

I made no attempt to synchronize the concert footage with the audio 
-- though I did try to match the musicians shown at any time with 
those can be heard on the soundtrack. I did make a conscious decision 
to always show one or more of the musicians throughout the piece.

This is my first effort at using this particular visual music 
structure, and I would very much appreciate feedback, especially 
concerning the pacing and the decision to use footage from the 
concert for the entire piece.

BTW Some of my photography can be viewed at 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/
-- 
" Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better."  -- Paul Bley

		Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D.
Video Producer			Image Processing Specialist
Video for your HEAD!			Boris FX
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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark francombe wrote:
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> And finally, I just f***ing love the internet, this thread proves it. 
I love it too.    This whole amazing group of innovative musicians would 
never have existed without the
Internet and Kim's decision to start this list.

I frequently say a prayer of gratitude that you all exist!    You are my 
family away from home.

love, Rick

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Hi guys,

I just made an album not for public release but addressing film, video
and games. A typical B2B thing (library/production stuff), though
streaming is free in the public domain:

http://www.looproom.com/media-music/

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen

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Hi all,

I just put up a podcast of raw recordings of all my solo sets from this
summer's midwest tour with Kristin Miltner. Just in case anyone wants to
listen to drum machine for like 2 hours...

http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com/

..sorry - that makes it sound worse than it is. It is really 2 hours of drum
machine, but I play it unusually. It's spacey and weird, but also musical.
Everything's free-improvised.

Enjoy! (optional)


-- 
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
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Hi all, <br>
<br>
I just put up a podcast of raw recordings of all my solo sets from this sum=
mer&#39;s midwest tour with Kristin Miltner. Just in case anyone wants to l=
isten to drum machine for like 2 hours...<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com/">http://ribosomematt.podomati=
c.com/</a><br><br>..sorry - that makes it sound worse than it is. It is rea=
lly 2 hours of drum machine, but I play it unusually. It&#39;s spacey and w=
eird, but also musical. Everything&#39;s free-improvised. <br>
<br>Enjoy! (optional)<br clear=3D"all"><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Matt Da=
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Yeah, that's the one. Had to get a magnifying glass out to read the  
model number.
It tracked pretty well for what it was, as I recall. You could even  
sing into it.
Just pulled it out and plugged it in for the first time in 25(?) years.

On Sep 5, 2011, at 3:42 PM, mark francombe wrote:

>>
>> , Korg guitar synth anyone?
>>
>>
>> Ed Durbrow
>> Saitama, Japan
>
> Not the X911??????
> ME!!! I want that!!! In fact i should have added it to the list of  
> things i regret selling!!!!
> It was Fantastic!!!!


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Its pretty sought after you know? It has all analog circuitry and has the
famous MS-20 filter. Its well known from the 80=B4s as being a good effect =
for
drum-machines. I used to trigger it from a trig source on an old analog
sequencer, but allowed the guitar to handle the pitch, this way it played i=
n
perfect time with the track, but with less than accurate pitch, but very
cool nevertheless. Also if the trigger was a gate signal, in a rythym, you
could do trance-gate (audio tremelo) effects on the guitar, a bit like the
Boss slicer pedal of today.

I dont have any spare money right now, but I might have offered you alot fo=
r
it if I did!

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> Yeah, that's the one. Had to get a magnifying glass out to read the model
> number.
> It tracked pretty well for what it was, as I recall. You could even sing
> into it.
> Just pulled it out and plugged it in for the first time in 25(?) years.
>
>


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Its pretty sought after you know? It has all analog circuitry and has the f=
amous MS-20 filter. Its well known from the 80=B4s as being a good effect f=
or drum-machines. I used to trigger it from a trig source on an old analog =
sequencer, but allowed the guitar to handle the pitch, this way it played i=
n perfect time with the track, but with less than accurate pitch, but very =
cool nevertheless. Also if the trigger was a gate signal, in a rythym, you =
could do trance-gate (audio tremelo) effects on the guitar, a bit like the =
Boss slicer pedal of today.<br>

<br>I dont have any spare money right now, but I might have offered you alo=
t for it if I did!<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at=
 9:45 AM, Ed Durbrow <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:edurbrow@sea.p=
lala.or.jp">edurbrow@sea.plala.or.jp</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">Yeah, t=
hat&#39;s the one. Had to get a magnifying glass out to read the model numb=
er.<div>

It tracked pretty well for what it was, as I recall. You could even sing in=
to it.</div><div>Just pulled it out and plugged it in for the first time in=
 25(?) years.</div><div><br></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D=
"all">

<br>-- <br><i style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(255, 255, 2=
55);background-color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><font style=3D"font-family:trebuchet ms,=
sans-serif" size=3D"4"><u>Mark Francombe</u></font></i><br><font size=3D"1"=
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">

<a style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com/" targe=
t=3D"_blank">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)"><a st=
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"_blank">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)">

<a style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" href=3D"http://www.looop.no/" target=3D"_=
blank">http://www.looop.no</a><br>twitter @markfrancombe</font><br>

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mark francombe wrote:
> Ive been scouring the You Tube vids and reading the manual, and there's
> one tiny clip that seems like it has some kind of arpeggiator or
> sequencer function, but cant find anything about it... could be its just
> part of a patch.. anyone know anything on that?

Alright, Mark, I think I finally found the clip to which you're 
referring.  If it's the one I've seen, I'm pretty certain that the 
particular sound has the arpeggio recorded directly into the sample (or 
it's using some sort of wavetable magic to accomplish the same thing). 
There are a couple of sounds on my GR-20 where they do the same thing -- 
mostly grooves, mind you.  Not bad, but hardly configurable.

However, before I went looking around for that, I became curious about 
how well you could do some of those tricks using just the built-in 
functions and effects.  And the answer, I think, is that it's a bit 
quirky but you can have a lot of fun with it.

Now, of course, first caveat is that I'm doing it on the VG-99, and not 
the GR-55.  But, IIRC, both instruments have a similar signal chain, so 
the techniques should transfer between the two models.

As Per pointed out, you can do a lot with the LFO's on the device (in 
VG/GR-speak, an LFO is referred to as the 'Wave Pedal').  On the 99, you 
have a total of 32 individual LFO's which can be routed to 16 different 
destinations -- and that's for each signal chain, both A & B.  That's 
enough for some pretty twisted modulations.

In this case, I've been routing the Wave Pedals to the Alternate Tuning 
function.  That consists of the overall tuning (turning standard tuning 
into DADGAD across one whole instrument, for instance), the 'Bend' 
function (which allows specified strings to have a second tuning 
triggered externally), and the "12-String" configuration (which adds a 
harmony note to each string at a specified interval).

This kind of modulation routing results in some pretty interesting 
"arpeggio-like" behavior.  And the routing is configurable enough that I 
can even program different rhythms/intervals for each string.

Now that's not to say that the programming is a cakewalk.  It's done in 
the same manner as you used to have to do on older modular synths with 
no sequencer or arpeggiator, where you are summing multiple LFO's to 
modulate the same pitch destination.  Sometimes (frequently) you're 
staring at the damn things going, "where the hell did that pitch come 
from".  But, if you're into serendipity, that can also be a plus.

Also, the Wave Pedal won't go fast enough in 'Latched' mode (which is 
what you have to use to get evenly pitched steps, rather than 
portamento).  So, you're stuck summing multiple Wave Pedals if you want 
a fast (i.e. 8th or 16th note) tempo.

So, in summary Mark: yes, assuming the GR-55's architecture bears even a 
passing resemblance to the VG-99's, I think you can program some 
arpeggiator-style patches, even if it doesn't sport an arpeggiator of 
its own.

	-m-

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Fascinating new Swedish study (Karolinska Institutet)
shows correlation between the Dopamine systems in highly creative people 
and schizophrenics.

This is just a quote from the article:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/05/100518064610.htm#.TmOpG3e-074.facebook

The study shows that highly creative people who did well on the 
divergent tests had a lower density of
D2 receptors in the thalamus than less creative people," says Dr Ullén. 
"Schizophrenics are also known
to have low D2 density in this part of the brain, suggesting a cause of 
the link between mental illness
and creativity."

The thalamus serves as a kind of relay centre, filtering information 
before it reaches areas of the cortex,
which is responsible, amongst other things, for cognition and 
reasoning."Fewer D2 receptors in the thalamus
probably means a lower degree of signal filtering, and thus a higher 
flow of information from the thalamus,"
says Dr Ullén, and explains that this could a possible mechanism behind 
the ability of healthy highly creative
people to see numerous uncommon connections in a problem-solving 
situation and the bizarre associations
found in the mentally ill.

<and I LOVE this quote>

"Thinking outside the box might be facilitated by having a somewhat less 
intact box,"
                                                 says Dr Ullén about his 
new findings.

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That is excactly how i found the issue.....

I do have the note numbers for mapping 3  EDPs to one Berhinger somewhere..=
..I managed it  (just) for my needs which are

[Mute] [Sus] [ Ovdb] [Sus Insert] [Undo][=2CNext Loop]
[Rec=2C] [Overdub=2C] [ Mulitple] [Hall Speed] [Reverse ]  [Vol]    [FdBk]

on each layer plus on layer 00 three all reset buttons (well 2 all reset an=
d a record button which I long press  because the 3rd echoplex reset would =
fall off the top numbers of the midi spec.






From: mark@markfrancombe.com
Date: Mon=2C 5 Sep 2011 23:02:35 +0200
Subject: Re: Midi out from edp.
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

On Mon=2C Sep 5=2C 2011 at 10:39 PM=2C Matthias Grob <matilists@gmail.com> =
wrote:





are you saying that you found a bug in the EDP=2C Mark??  Congrats!

Well=2C seeing as one of my favorite features of the edp was apparently fir=
st deemed a bug=2C then I say.. Carry on Matty! You make lovely bugs!=20


=20
easily possible that we never tested MIDINote# =3D 0

so you do that to have both EDPs on one MIDI channel... for a lack of chann=
els or is there another advantage?


Yes I do=2C no particular advantage=2C but the Behringer 1010 pedal=2C (Not=
 my pedal of choice you understand?) only has the ability to preset what mi=
di channel a nidi note is sent on=2C and that is pedal-wide=2C regardless o=
f patch or bank. So if you set Midi notes to be sent on channel 16=2C then =
all midi notes are on channel 16. A huge limitation of an otherwise great p=
edal. But not all (any) pedals are made totally with the looper in mind=2C =
I suppose...  (Although I hear Mr Gordius is pretty close)=20


*sigh*

*/Mark pulls out empty pockets

M.

--=20
Mark Francombe


www.markfrancombe.comwww.ordoabkhao.com

http://vimeo.com/user825094http://www.looop.no


twitter @markfrancombe
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That is excactly how i found the issue.....<br><br>I do have the note numbe=
rs for mapping 3&nbsp=3B EDPs to one Berhinger somewhere....I managed it&nb=
sp=3B (just) for my needs which are<br><br>[Mute] [Sus] [ Ovdb] [Sus Insert=
] [Undo][=2CNext Loop]<br>[Rec=2C] [Overdub=2C] [ Mulitple] [Hall Speed] [R=
everse ]&nbsp=3B [Vol] &nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B [FdBk]<br><br>on each layer plus on=
 layer 00 three all reset buttons (well 2 all reset and a record button whi=
ch I long press&nbsp=3B because the 3rd echoplex reset would fall off the t=
op numbers of the midi spec.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><div><hr id=3D"stop=
Spelling">From: mark@markfrancombe.com<br>Date: Mon=2C 5 Sep 2011 23:02:35 =
+0200<br>Subject: Re: Midi out from edp.<br>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-del=
ight.com<br><br>On Mon=2C Sep 5=2C 2011 at 10:39 PM=2C Matthias Grob <span =
dir=3D"ltr">&lt=3B<a href=3D"mailto:matilists@gmail.com">matilists@gmail.co=
m</a>&gt=3B</span> wrote:<br><div class=3D"ecxgmail_quote"><blockquote clas=
s=3D"ecxgmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204=2C 204=2C 204)=
=3B padding-left: 1ex=3B">


<br>
are you saying that you found a bug in the EDP=2C Mark?? &nbsp=3BCongrats!<=
br></blockquote><div><br>Well=2C seeing as one of my favorite features of t=
he edp was apparently first deemed a bug=2C then I say.. Carry on Matty! Yo=
u make lovely bugs!&nbsp=3B<br>

</div><div>&nbsp=3B</div><blockquote class=3D"ecxgmail_quote" style=3D"padd=
ing-left: 1ex=3B">
easily possible that we never tested MIDINote# =3D 0<br>
so you do that to have both EDPs on one MIDI channel... for a lack of chann=
els or is there another advantage?<br>
<div><div></div><br clear=3D"all"></div></blockquote></div><br>Yes I do=2C =
no particular advantage=2C but the Behringer 1010 pedal=2C (Not my pedal of=
 choice you understand?) only has the ability to preset what midi channel a=
 nidi note is sent on=2C and that is pedal-wide=2C regardless of patch or b=
ank. So if you set Midi notes to be sent on channel 16=2C then all midi not=
es are on channel 16. A huge limitation of an otherwise great pedal. But no=
t all (any) pedals are made totally with the looper in mind=2C I suppose...=
&nbsp=3B (Although I hear Mr Gordius is pretty close) <br>

*sigh*<br><br>*/Mark pulls out empty pockets<br><br>M.<br><br>-- <br><i sty=
le=3D"font-family: verdana=2Csans-serif=3B color: rgb(255=2C 255=2C 255)=3B=
 background-color: rgb(0=2C 0=2C 0)=3B"><font style=3D"font-family: trebuch=
et ms=2Csans-serif=3B" size=3D"4"><u>Mark Francombe</u></font></i><br>

<font size=3D"1"><a style=3D"color: rgb(51=2C 0=2C 51)=3B" href=3D"http://w=
ww.markfrancombe.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br style=
=3D"color: rgb(51=2C 0=2C 51)=3B"><a style=3D"color: rgb(51=2C 0=2C 51)=3B"=
 href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.ordoabkhao.com</=
a><br style=3D"color: rgb(51=2C 0=2C 51)=3B">

<a style=3D"color: rgb(51=2C 0=2C 51)=3B" href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user8250=
94" target=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br style=3D"color: rg=
b(51=2C 0=2C 51)=3B"><a style=3D"color: rgb(51=2C 0=2C 51)=3B" href=3D"http=
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twitter @markfrancombe</font><br></div> 		 	   		  </div></body>
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Sorry=2C I end up reading these posts backwards so I have just got to the b=
it where you ask for the actual numbers..........


no worries=2C I am at work now=2C but I can have a look in the next day or =
two if it appeals.


what programme did you use to get all that nice midi event data? I am mysel=
f trying to tighten up a HUGE midi rig and  filter out any data that isn't =
needed..it looks pretty useful.

Can you believe when I was figuring this out=2C I had to slowly move the wh=
ole thing one number at a time up the note numbers  programme the whole thi=
ng =2C test the results then when it failed=2C move another number and try =
again......that was a loooong night !!!



From: phillwilson@hotmail.com
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: Midi out from edp.
Date: Tue=2C 6 Sep 2011 09:11:44 +0000








That is excactly how i found the issue.....

I do have the note numbers for mapping 3  EDPs to one Berhinger somewhere..=
..I managed it  (just) for my needs which are

[Mute] [Sus] [ Ovdb] [Sus Insert] [Undo][=2CNext Loop]
[Rec=2C] [Overdub=2C] [ Mulitple] [Hall Speed] [Reverse ]  [Vol]    [FdBk]

on each layer plus on layer 00 three all reset buttons (well 2 all reset an=
d a record button which I long press  because the 3rd echoplex reset would =
fall off the top numbers of the midi spec.






From: mark@markfrancombe.com
Date: Mon=2C 5 Sep 2011 23:02:35 +0200
Subject: Re: Midi out from edp.
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

On Mon=2C Sep 5=2C 2011 at 10:39 PM=2C Matthias Grob <matilists@gmail.com> =
wrote:





are you saying that you found a bug in the EDP=2C Mark??  Congrats!

Well=2C seeing as one of my favorite features of the edp was apparently fir=
st deemed a bug=2C then I say.. Carry on Matty! You make lovely bugs!=20


=20
easily possible that we never tested MIDINote# =3D 0

so you do that to have both EDPs on one MIDI channel... for a lack of chann=
els or is there another advantage?


Yes I do=2C no particular advantage=2C but the Behringer 1010 pedal=2C (Not=
 my pedal of choice you understand?) only has the ability to preset what mi=
di channel a nidi note is sent on=2C and that is pedal-wide=2C regardless o=
f patch or bank. So if you set Midi notes to be sent on channel 16=2C then =
all midi notes are on channel 16. A huge limitation of an otherwise great p=
edal. But not all (any) pedals are made totally with the looper in mind=2C =
I suppose...  (Although I hear Mr Gordius is pretty close)=20


*sigh*

*/Mark pulls out empty pockets

M.

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Sorry=2C I end up reading these posts backwards so I have just got to the b=
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I am at work now=2C but I can have a look in the next day or two if it appe=
als.<br><br><br>what programme did you use to get all that nice midi event =
data? I am myself trying to tighten up a HUGE midi rig and&nbsp=3B filter o=
ut any data that isn't needed..it looks pretty useful.<br><br>Can you belie=
ve when I was figuring this out=2C I had to slowly move the whole thing one=
 number at a time up the note numbers&nbsp=3B programme the whole thing =2C=
 test the results then when it failed=2C move another number and try again.=
.....that was a loooong night !!!<br><br><br><br><div><hr id=3D"stopSpellin=
g">From: phillwilson@hotmail.com<br>To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com=
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That is excactly how i found the issue.....<br><br>I do have the note numbe=
rs for mapping 3&nbsp=3B EDPs to one Berhinger somewhere....I managed it&nb=
sp=3B (just) for my needs which are<br><br>[Mute] [Sus] [ Ovdb] [Sus Insert=
] [Undo][=2CNext Loop]<br>[Rec=2C] [Overdub=2C] [ Mulitple] [Hall Speed] [R=
everse ]&nbsp=3B [Vol] &nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B [FdBk]<br><br>on each layer plus on=
 layer 00 three all reset buttons (well 2 all reset and a record button whi=
ch I long press&nbsp=3B because the 3rd echoplex reset would fall off the t=
op numbers of the midi spec.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><div><hr id=3D"ecxs=
topSpelling">From: mark@markfrancombe.com<br>Date: Mon=2C 5 Sep 2011 23:02:=
35 +0200<br>Subject: Re: Midi out from edp.<br>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-=
delight.com<br><br>On Mon=2C Sep 5=2C 2011 at 10:39 PM=2C Matthias Grob <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt=3B<a href=3D"mailto:matilists@gmail.com">matilists@gmail=
.com</a>&gt=3B</span> wrote:<br><div class=3D"ecxgmail_quote"><blockquote c=
lass=3D"ecxgmail_quote" style=3D"padding-left: 1ex=3B">


<br>
are you saying that you found a bug in the EDP=2C Mark?? &nbsp=3BCongrats!<=
br></blockquote><div><br>Well=2C seeing as one of my favorite features of t=
he edp was apparently first deemed a bug=2C then I say.. Carry on Matty! Yo=
u make lovely bugs!&nbsp=3B<br>

</div><div>&nbsp=3B</div><blockquote class=3D"ecxgmail_quote" style=3D"padd=
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easily possible that we never tested MIDINote# =3D 0<br>
so you do that to have both EDPs on one MIDI channel... for a lack of chann=
els or is there another advantage?<br>
<div><div></div><br clear=3D"all"></div></blockquote></div><br>Yes I do=2C =
no particular advantage=2C but the Behringer 1010 pedal=2C (Not my pedal of=
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ank. So if you set Midi notes to be sent on channel 16=2C then all midi not=
es are on channel 16. A huge limitation of an otherwise great pedal. But no=
t all (any) pedals are made totally with the looper in mind=2C I suppose...=
&nbsp=3B (Although I hear Mr Gordius is pretty close) <br>

*sigh*<br><br>*/Mark pulls out empty pockets<br><br>M.<br><br>-- <br><i sty=
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I agree that filtering is a lot better in the mix than in the brain!
Working hard now to shut down my dopamine so I can fit in with the
freakshow in Santa Cruz next month :-)

Thanks for the link, very interesting reading! BTW, the research
center in the article is just around the corner from where I'm typing
this.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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www.looproom.com internet music hub



On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
> Fascinating new Swedish study (Karolinska Institutet)
> shows correlation between the Dopamine systems in highly creative people =
and
> schizophrenics.
>
> This is just a quote from the article:
> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/05/100518064610.htm#.TmOpG3e-07=
4.facebook
>
> The study shows that highly creative people who did well on the divergent
> tests had a lower density of
> D2 receptors in the thalamus than less creative people," says Dr Ull=C3=
=A9n.
> "Schizophrenics are also known
> to have low D2 density in this part of the brain, suggesting a cause of t=
he
> link between mental illness
> and creativity."
>
> The thalamus serves as a kind of relay centre, filtering information befo=
re
> it reaches areas of the cortex,
> which is responsible, amongst other things, for cognition and
> reasoning."Fewer D2 receptors in the thalamus
> probably means a lower degree of signal filtering, and thus a higher flow=
 of
> information from the thalamus,"
> says Dr Ull=C3=A9n, and explains that this could a possible mechanism beh=
ind the
> ability of healthy highly creative
> people to see numerous uncommon connections in a problem-solving situatio=
n
> and the bizarre associations
> found in the mentally ill.
>
> <and I LOVE this quote>
>
> "Thinking outside the box might be facilitated by having a somewhat less
> intact box,"
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0says Dr Ull=C3=A9n about his new
> findings.
>
>

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Great quote, Rick!

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree that filtering is a lot better in the mix than in the brain!
> Working hard now to shut down my dopamine so I can fit in with the
> freakshow in Santa Cruz next month :-)
>
> Thanks for the link, very interesting reading! BTW, the research
> center in the article is just around the corner from where I'm typing
> this.
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> www.looproom.com internet music hub
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
>> Fascinating new Swedish study (Karolinska Institutet)
>> shows correlation between the Dopamine systems in highly creative people=
 and
>> schizophrenics.
>>
>> This is just a quote from the article:
>> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/05/100518064610.htm#.TmOpG3e-0=
74.facebook
>>
>> The study shows that highly creative people who did well on the divergen=
t
>> tests had a lower density of
>> D2 receptors in the thalamus than less creative people," says Dr Ull=E9n=
.
>> "Schizophrenics are also known
>> to have low D2 density in this part of the brain, suggesting a cause of =
the
>> link between mental illness
>> and creativity."
>>
>> The thalamus serves as a kind of relay centre, filtering information bef=
ore
>> it reaches areas of the cortex,
>> which is responsible, amongst other things, for cognition and
>> reasoning."Fewer D2 receptors in the thalamus
>> probably means a lower degree of signal filtering, and thus a higher flo=
w of
>> information from the thalamus,"
>> says Dr Ull=E9n, and explains that this could a possible mechanism behin=
d the
>> ability of healthy highly creative
>> people to see numerous uncommon connections in a problem-solving situati=
on
>> and the bizarre associations
>> found in the mentally ill.
>>
>> <and I LOVE this quote>
>>
>> "Thinking outside the box might be facilitated by having a somewhat less
>> intact box,"
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0says Dr Ull=E9n about his new
>> findings.
>>
>>
>
>

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a nice collection. Good luck with this Per!  Will you actively advertise for
this in the film making scene somehow? I wouldn't know how to do that.

-Michael

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Sounding very cool Duke, especially as the LFO style seqiencing is somethig
Im very into on my modular,

Still trying to sell a few things, but looking increasingly like =CD wanna =
get
a 55 now!

Mark


On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Dust Bunnies <mech@m3ch.net> wrote:

> So, in summary Mark: yes, assuming the GR-55's architecture bears even a
> passing resemblance to the VG-99's, I think you can program some
> arpeggiator-style patches, even if it doesn't sport an arpeggiator of its
> own.
>
>        -m-
>
>


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Sounding very cool Duke, especially as the LFO style seqiencing is somethig=
 Im very into on my modular, <br><br>Still trying to sell a few things, but=
 looking increasingly like =CD wanna get a 55 now!<br><br>Mark<br><br><br>

<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Dust Bunnies <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mech@m3ch.net">mech@m3ch.net</a>&gt;<=
/span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8=
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So, in summary Mark: yes, assuming the GR-55&#39;s architecture bears even =
a passing resemblance to the VG-99&#39;s, I think you can program some arpe=
ggiator-style patches, even if it doesn&#39;t sport an arpeggiator of its o=
wn.<br>


<br>
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I figured it out Phillip, I did the same as you, and found that 10 was a
good safe lowesr source. This puts my second EDP on 56.. a third, and it
would get hairy!

I used midi monitor on the mac, nice small freebie prog.. V usefull!



M


>
> what programme did you use to get all that nice midi event data? I am
> myself trying to tighten up a HUGE midi rig and  filter out any data that
> isn't needed..it looks pretty useful. <http://www.looop.no/>
>  twitter @markfrancombe
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I figured it out Phillip, I did the same as you, and found that 10 was a go=
od safe lowesr source. This puts my second EDP on 56.. a third, and it woul=
d get hairy!<br><br>I used midi monitor on the mac, nice small freebie prog=
.. V usefull!<br>

<br><br><br>M<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex;"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><br>what programme did you use to get all th=
at nice midi event data? I am myself trying to tighten up a HUGE midi rig a=
nd=A0 filter out any data that isn&#39;t needed..it looks pretty useful.<a =
style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" href=3D"http://www.looop.no/" target=3D"_bla=
nk"></a><br>

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And I=B4m wondering what prices you are asking for that, Im noticing that y=
ou
need to know distribution. What would you do about internet. We cannot trac=
k
how many people go through our programs (well we can, but a customer would
not PAY EXTRA for the music, if it was many views)

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> for
> this in the film making scene somehow? I wouldn't know how to do that.
>
> -Michael
>
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a nice collection. Good luck with this Per! =A0Will you actively advertise =
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On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
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for
> this in the film making scene somehow? I wouldn't know how to do that.
>
> -Michael

Hi Michael,

Thanks for the positive vibe! :-)  I will first talk to a specific
library music label. I have listened through all of their catalog and
noticed they still lack music of a kind that I can make. I'm not
interested in all the admin work so I really hope I can sneak in
there. The very idea with providing library/production music is that
the catalog has to be so big that there is a minimal risk for a
customer to find that another player is using the same music as he has
rented for a film spot or whatever. So being a small indie provider of
prod music isn't really an option - I'm doing it at this stage more to
mock up some kind of portfolio. The media music I have created in the
past has all been commissions for certain projects; to score film (in
DVD 5.1 mixing is a big point) or making pieces for radio programs and
nothing of this old work really applies to library/production music.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen



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> need to know distribution. What would you do about internet. We cannot tr=
ack
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d
> not PAY EXTRA for the music, if it was many views)


Good point, Mark! I'm up to follow the usual tariffs. As I wrote to
Michael's post the idea is to offer music for immediate and convenient
use in media productions. This music should then be pre cleared
regarding synchronizaton and mechanical rights. As a composer there is
now a legal option to register work as pre cleared and this is a huge
time and money savior for media producers looking for music. The rule
of thumb when producing pre cleared library music is that the
composer/producer gets paid for his time rather than for how
frequently the music is actually being used. So I imagine you can't be
picky about that - as the case is when it comes to non pre cleared
music.

For a long time the Swedish PRO STiM did not allow members/musicians
to compose and produce recordings and license them to a user under a
one-and-only price tag. I think it is great that this is no possible,
since all music isn't really to be compared with inventions regarding
immaterial rights.

Per

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Dooodes! I just heard GR-55's are coming to Sweden now through
Denmark. Will pick up my pre ordered soon.

Per
- gosh am low on dopamine 2day!


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ig
> Im very into on my modular,
>
> Still trying to sell a few things, but looking increasingly like =C3=8D w=
anna get
> a 55 now!
>
> Mark
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Dust Bunnies <mech@m3ch.net> wrote:
>>
>> So, in summary Mark: yes, assuming the GR-55's architecture bears even a
>> passing resemblance to the VG-99's, I think you can program some
>> arpeggiator-style patches, even if it doesn't sport an arpeggiator of it=
s
>> own.
>>
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-m-
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On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> Good point,
>


> So I imagine you can't be
> picky about that - as the case is when it comes to non pre cleared
> music.
>


Yes, for example, all the music I write for corporate I use one simple
model. I charge per hour for the time it took to write, and then I license
the recording (1 extra line in the contract of the whole multi-media
production, not a 67 page EULA) whereby its use in THAT production is
allowed forever. The company are NOT allowed to reuse the music or play it
at any event, and that if they want to use it for TV advertising or another
production, they must talk to me.

This has only actually happened once, where a piece I wrote for a film for
Aker Solutions, they wanted to use at a live event. They complied with my
contract and paid me some extra for that one showing.

In this day and age, it continues to be important to retain ones rights to
the music and never, ever sell, but return fees and or fees based on viewer
counts, is not feasible and in many cases possible, so a company would
choose not to use. There are PLENTY of totally free music library sites fow,
and for me, as a film-maker, I only record for quality, cos I want something
special, I am NOT making money out of it, apart for that fact that my
company budgets some hours for me to do this AT WORK... but its hours,
rather than days ha ha!!!
I am the master of throwing library loops together and having something an
an hour and a half... Did I say quality...? er...?


m.
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sen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboysen@=
gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
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lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px s=
olid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div id=3D":24u">So I imagine =
you can&#39;t be<br>


picky about that - as the case is when it comes to non pre cleared<br>
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production is allowed forever. The company are NOT allowed to reuse the=20
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advertising or another production, they must talk to me.<br>
<br>
This has only actually happened once, where a piece I wrote for a film=20
for Aker Solutions, they wanted to use at a live event. They complied=20
with my contract and paid me some extra for that one showing.<br>
<br>
In this day and age, it continues to be important to retain ones rights=20
to the music and never, ever sell, but return fees and or fees based on=20
viewer counts, is not feasible and in many cases possible, so a company=20
would choose not to use. There are PLENTY of totally free music library=20
sites fow, and for me, as a film-maker, I only record for quality, cos I
 want something special, I am NOT making money out of it, apart for that
 fact that my company budgets some hours for me to do this AT WORK...=20
but its hours, rather than days ha ha!!!<br>
I am the master of throwing library loops together and having something an =
an hour and a half... Did I say quality...? er...?<br>
<br>
<br>
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OH?? Was that a thing? I check a few weeks ago at my local shop and it was
possible to order from Denmark too...
Dang you Boysen, looks like you be before me... again..



On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dooodes! I just heard GR-55's are coming to Sweden now through
> Denmark. Will pick up my pre ordered soon.
>
> Per
> - gosh am low on dopamine 2day!
> --
>
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Dooodes! I just heard GR-55&#39;s are comin=
g to Sweden now through<br>
Denmark. Will pick up my pre ordered soon.<br>
<br>
Per<br>
- gosh am low on dopamine 2day!<br>
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On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:42 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> Yes, for example, all the music I write for corporate I use one simple
> model. I charge per hour for the time it took to write, and then I license
> the recording (1 extra line in the contract of the whole multi-media
> production, not a 67 page EULA) whereby its use in THAT production is
> allowed forever. The company are NOT allowed to reuse the music or play it
> at any event, and that if they want to use it for TV advertising or another
> production, they must talk to me.


Yes, that's a typical scenario. But your example is of a different
kind: you get a commission to make music and then you make the music
and bill the client for the hours. In your case it works out pretty
smoothly for the client, but that might not always be the case since
recorded music normally has at least three different kind of legal
rights attached to it. Don't know the details for Norway but in Sweden
that's part of the fundamental law.

I was talking about the opposite work-flow: making the music first and
it is being picked up for use in a particular media production you
bill the man for the hours. Hence the name "library music". The point
is to offer such a vast library that any producer looking for music
may find something.

per

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It's the Danes! Danes-DAnes-Danes...
The GR is the greatest Dopaminer!


On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:45 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> OH?? Was that a thing? I check a few weeks ago at my local shop and it was
> possible to order from Denmark too...
> Dang you Boysen, looks like you be before me... again..
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dooodes! I just heard GR-55's are coming to Sweden now through
>> Denmark. Will pick up my pre ordered soon.
>>
>> Per
>> - gosh am low on dopamine 2day!
>> --
>
> Mark Francombe
> www.markfrancombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no
> twitter @markfrancombe
>

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hey guys,

i now have an electronica duo with a viola player. he would like to use =
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what loopers would you recommend that has a stable midi clock - to be =
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Today, Tuesday Sept. 6,  All Things Considered


http://www.npr.org/2011/09/06/140069246/zoe-keating-a-symphony-unto-herself




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Yes got it to work with the original cable and an adapter.=20
Cheers for everyones help
James

Date: Mon=2C 5 Sep 2011 12:50:29 -0700
Subject: Re: EDP Powering problem.
From: halimzainal@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

my bad. sorry for the slight misinformation. thank you for correcting.




thats not the problemif one was only 130V it would theoretically be possibl=
e to create a short circuit when loaded with 230V but very unlikelythe curr=
ent through the EDP is far below 2A anyway=2C so if there was a fault in it=
=2C the internal fuse would blow=2C exept if there is a short cirquit right=
 at its power socket.

the safety switch reacts to much smaller currents that "run away" so if onl=
y this switches off=2C there may be a insulation problem in the EDP=2C mayb=
e even a cap between power input and ground which is too big for your safet=
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first test would be whether the power cable itself makes the fuse blow



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ect: Re: EDP Powering problem.<br>From: halimzainal@gmail.com<br>To: Looper=
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My band mate has trouble with his EDP, it keeps showing an error message nid
(or NId probably) and then the machine hangs:

Anyone know what that is? I checked the manual and its not there, could it
just be some LED junk as the machine crashes? I haven't checked it myself,
so maybe he has some weird midi parameters set, although I don't know what
they might be...

Anybody might think that Im having EDP woes currently, but that is not the
case, its just that Im experiencing some normal technical tweaking issues
such as befals a new and exiting, but rather geeky, new band project... when
we are all fully tweaked, then we will totally rip it up!

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My band mate has trouble with his EDP, it keeps showing an error message ni=
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t is? I checked the manual and its not there, could it just be some LED jun=
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some weird midi parameters set, although I don&#39;t know what they might b=
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<br>Anybody might think that Im having EDP woes currently, but that is not =
the case, its just that Im experiencing some normal technical tweaking issu=
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when we are all fully tweaked, then we will totally rip it up!<br>

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hi Mark,
there's 3 EDP error messages that I've seen,
something like

nIdI
dead 

and one really rare one which is some kind of 'smiley face',
(which I only saw once, may have been when trying sysex stuff)


So I guess what your mate has is nIdI , which kind of 
indicates Midi error.

'nIdI' and 'dead' used to appear quite regularly in the days
of testing loop4, but these days I only occasionally get
nIdI when I boot up the 2 edps in some haphazard way.

The edp will always hang if when an error is displayed.

I just tried to get nIdI by randomly powering on/off the 2 edps,
..but I only see it very briefly sometimes as a machine is switched off.

So, only 2 things to suggest.

1) maybe some interruption in the power is causing this, perhaps an internal
   fault of the edp, perhaps not.
2) do a factory reset (boot edp while holding param button)

a

mark francombe wrote:
> My band mate has trouble with his EDP, it keeps showing an error message 
> nid (or NId probably) and then the machine hangs:
> 
> Anyone know what that is? I checked the manual and its not there, could 
> it just be some LED junk as the machine crashes? I haven't checked it 
> myself, so maybe he has some weird midi parameters set, although I don't 
> know what they might be...
> 
> Anybody might think that Im having EDP woes currently, but that is not 
> the case, its just that Im experiencing some normal technical tweaking 
> issues such as befals a new and exiting, but rather geeky, new band 
> project... when we are all fully tweaked, then we will totally rip it up!
> 
> M
> 
> 
> -- 
> /_Mark Francombe_/
> www.markfrancombe.com <http://www.markfrancombe.com/>
> www.ordoabkhao.com <http://www.ordoabkhao.com/>
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no <http://www.looop.no/>
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Hey All!

Once a year (Or whenever my feet get itchy from NOT touring) I post this
link to a little form I made for you guys to post information about "Loopin=
g
Friendly Venues".

http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?page_id=3D525

I had a good response last year from the Americans, but Europe is looking
decidedly empty of places to play. I'm sure there must be ONE OK-ish,
smallish place in every big city, that has an open and friendly attitude. I=
m
not looking for big paying venues or anything, more that a person could use
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for the night, and a little money for a train ticket to the next town.

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Mark

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<br>I had a good response last year from the Americans, but Europe is looki=
ng decidedly empty of places to play. I&#39;m sure there must be ONE OK-ish=
, smallish place in every big city, that has an open and friendly attitude.=
 Im not looking for big paying venues or anything, more that a person could=
 use this list to book a quiet little tour anywhere, getting a good meal, a=
 bed for the night, and a little money for a train ticket to the next town.=
<br>

<br>So all you Europeans, fill in one place each, and we=B4ll have a good d=
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FWIW:
I've had odd unexplainable problems a couple of times since buying my first
a few EDP months ago. It came Loop III and I upgraded right away.
Every time, I've got it sorted out by re-seating the Loop IV chips in their
sockets.
I wonder if some kind of contact paste might help. I did try some MG spray
and it seems to be working.
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way.<br>Every time, I&#39;ve got it sorted out by re-seating the Loop IV ch=
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Through the liberal application of Pym particles.

Nerd hi-five? Anyone?

-- 
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusic.com
Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com
Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt

On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Brian Carabee <compguy2@comcast.net> wrote:

> **
> How did you stuff Buckethead into that little tiny box?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
> *To:* loopers-delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 07, 2011 2:51 PM
> *Subject:* Looping venue list again!
>
> Hey All!
>
> Once a year (Or whenever my feet get itchy from NOT touring) I post this
> link to a little form I made for you guys to post information about "Looping
> Friendly Venues".
>
> http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?page_id=525
>
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Through the liberal application of Pym particles. <br><br>Nerd hi-five? Any=
one?<br><br>-- <br>Matt Davignon<br><a href=3D"mailto:mattdavignon@gmail.co=
m" target=3D"_blank">mattdavignon@gmail.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.ri=
bosomemusic.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.ribosomemusic.com</a><br>
Podcast! <a href=3D"http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com/" target=3D"_blank">h=
ttp://ribosomematt.podomatic.com</a><br>Rigs! <a href=3D"http://www.youtube=
.com/user/ribosomematt" target=3D"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/user/ribos=
omematt</a><br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Brian Carabe=
e <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:compguy2@comcast.net">compguy2@co=
mcast.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
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<u></u>





<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
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Hi folks,

I'll be doing video improvisations as part of

  Sunday, September 11 =B7 8:00pm - 10:30pm

Location
UnchARTed Studios
126 Meriimack St.
Lowell, MA

Created By
119 Gallery

More Info
Please join us for a night of duets and live=20
video at UnchARTed studios in downtown Lowell.

Earl Kipp - drums, percussion
Stephanie Lak - voice, objects
Abe Taber - bass
Walter Wright - electronics, drums

with
Live video projections by Dr T **

Set 1 Earl Kipp, Abe Taber
Set 2 Stephanie Lak, Walter Wright
Set 3 Walter Wright, Earl Kipp
Set 4 Abe Taber, Stephanie Lak
Set 5 Stephanie Lak, Earl Kipp
Set 6 Walter Wright, Abe Taber

Set 7 Earl Kipp, Stephanie Lak, Abe Taber, Walter Wright

Donations are appreciated and are given directly to the non profit space.
Please visit the UnchARTed facebook page!
http://www.facebook.com/pages/UnchARTed/202386856448988

In honor of the day, I'll be working some of my=20
World Trade Center images=20
(http://www.foryourhead.com) into the mix.

-- 
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My videos can be viewed at
http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld

		Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D.
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Video for your HEAD!			Boris FX
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GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY:                   http://galactictravels.info
=======================================================================
Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long
Special Focus on Robert Carty.  The Featured CD at Midnight will be
"Oceanic Space" by Robert Carty on Space for Music Records.  Details
are at the Special Focus page at:
http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#sep

Modulator ESP, who will play at the electro-music festival, will play a
live, in-studio concert from WDIY on tonight's Galactic Travels.

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1
FM.  Listen at http://wdiy.org/listen on the internet.

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Hey, sorry I haven't spoken up but I own the GR55 and love it but don't get
enough time with it to do much tweaking.  I have programmed a few sounds I'm
using live, sitar, strings and flute.  I think it has the best sounding
12-string I've heard from a box and the metal construction is a much needed
improvement.

weg

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> It's the Danes! Danes-DAnes-Danes...
> The GR is the greatest Dopaminer!
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:45 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
> wrote:
> > OH?? Was that a thing? I check a few weeks ago at my local shop and it
> was
> > possible to order from Denmark too...
> > Dang you Boysen, looks like you be before me... again..
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dooodes! I just heard GR-55's are coming to Sweden now through
> >> Denmark. Will pick up my pre ordered soon.
> >>
> >> Per
> >> - gosh am low on dopamine 2day!
> >> --
> >
> > Mark Francombe
> > www.markfrancombe.com
> > www.ordoabkhao.com
> > http://vimeo.com/user825094
> > http://www.looop.no
> > twitter @markfrancombe
> >
>
>


-- 
Greg Wegmann

TheWeg@Frontier.com
TheWeg@GMail.com

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Hey, sorry I haven&#39;t spoken up but I own the GR55 and love it but don&#=
39;t get enough time with it to do much tweaking. =A0I have programmed a fe=
w sounds I&#39;m using live, sitar, strings and flute. =A0I think it has th=
e best sounding 12-string I&#39;ve heard from a box and the metal construct=
ion is a much needed improvement.<div>
<br></div><div>weg<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at=
 7:19 AM, Per Boysen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmai=
l.com">perboysen@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex;">
It&#39;s the Danes! Danes-DAnes-Danes...<br>
The GR is the greatest Dopaminer!<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:45 PM, mark francombe &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@=
markfrancombe.com">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; OH?? Was that a thing? I check a few weeks ago at my local shop and it=
 was<br>
&gt; possible to order from Denmark too...<br>
&gt; Dang you Boysen, looks like you be before me... again..<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Per Boysen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perb=
oysen@gmail.com">perboysen@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Dooodes! I just heard GR-55&#39;s are coming to Sweden now through=
<br>
&gt;&gt; Denmark. Will pick up my pre ordered soon.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Per<br>
&gt;&gt; - gosh am low on dopamine 2day!<br>
&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Mark Francombe<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com" target=3D"_blank">www.markfra=
ncombe.com</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com" target=3D"_blank">www.ordoabkhao=
.com</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" target=3D"_blank">http://vimeo=
.com/user825094</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.looop.no" target=3D"_blank">http://www.looop.no<=
/a><br>
&gt; twitter @markfrancombe<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br>=
<div>Greg Wegmann<br><br><a href=3D"mailto:TheWeg@Frontier.com" target=3D"_=
blank">TheWeg@Frontier.com</a></div>
<div>TheWeg@GMail.com<br></div><br>
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Well I had a chance to do some compressor comparisons the other night  
with Henry Kaiser after I had been ogling his pedal board  and spying  
a rather beautiful (as in clean and simple not gaudy) looking pedal,  
called a 1960, which he described as being the absolute best floor  
compressor on the market. That got my attention,  as the verdict for  
me was still out on the floor compressor sweepstakes.  Over the next  
few days of e-mail exchange I asked him why, and he said that it is  
the only attempt he is aware of by a small pedal builder  to recreate  
the vaunted vintage LA-2 rack mount studio compressor limiter in a  
compact pedal. Why is that so cool? Well for one thing its a two stage  
compressor like the original and it is virtually free of the types of  
compression characteristics that detractors of compression don't like,  
particularly the  pumping and spongy dynamics. It does have  
magnificent  sustain though, and responds well when you turn down your  
instrument's volume or switch between instruments with different  
pickups and outputs.  The other thing about this compressor that i  
really like is it is chimp simple to use, two knobs like a Keeley.  So  
a couple nights ago I had a opportunity  to hang out again with Henry  
and do some a/b comparisons between a number of high quality  pedal  
compressors and the 1960 blew them all away, not even close, no  
pumping artifacts even at high settings and very quiet.
This is a hand made pedal made by a very small operation in SoCal that  
specializes in rebuilds and mods of pultec  eq's and other classic  
analog studio gear, They aren't cheap at $250 bucks, but in comparison  
with everything else I have tried in that price range it had the most  
transparent sound and  and best dynamic characteristics even at  
extreme settings.
  I have one on order and will post a youtube vid when I have a chance.
  check it out http://oldworldaudio.com/ and his youtube demo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tdy15V_Tmg0
  Bill


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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Well I had a chance to do some =
compressor comparisons the other night with Henry Kaiser after I had =
been ogling his pedal board &nbsp;and spying a rather beautiful (as in =
clean and simple not gaudy) looking pedal, called a 1960, which he =
described as being the absolute best floor compressor on the market. =
That got my attention, &nbsp;as the verdict for me was still out on the =
floor compressor sweepstakes. &nbsp;Over the next few days of e-mail =
exchange I asked him why, and he said that it is the only attempt he is =
aware of by a small pedal builder &nbsp;to recreate the vaunted vintage =
LA-2 rack mount studio compressor limiter in a compact pedal. Why is =
that so cool? Well for one thing its a two stage compressor like the =
original and it is virtually free of the types of compression =
characteristics that detractors of compression don't like, particularly =
the &nbsp;pumping and spongy dynamics. It does have magnificent =
&nbsp;sustain though, and responds well when you turn down your =
instrument's volume or switch between instruments with different pickups =
and outputs. &nbsp;The other thing about this compressor that i really =
like is it is chimp simple to use, two knobs like a Keeley. &nbsp;So a =
couple nights ago I had a opportunity &nbsp;to hang out again with Henry =
and do some a/b comparisons between a number of high quality &nbsp;pedal =
compressors and the 1960 blew them all away, not even close, no pumping =
artifacts even at high settings and very quiet.&nbsp;<div>This is a hand =
made pedal made by a very small operation in SoCal that specializes in =
rebuilds and mods of pultec &nbsp;eq's and other classic analog studio =
gear, They aren't cheap at $250 bucks, but in comparison with everything =
else I have tried in that price range it had the most transparent sound =
and &nbsp;and best dynamic characteristics even at extreme =
settings.&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;I have one on order and will post a =
youtube vid when I have a chance.</div><div>&nbsp;check it out&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"http://oldworldaudio.com/">http://oldworldaudio.com/</a>&nbsp;and =
his youtube demo</div><div><a =
href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DTdy15V_Tmg0">http://www.youtube.c=
om/watch?v=3DTdy15V_Tmg0</a></div><div>&nbsp;Bill</div><div><br></div></bo=
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Excellent report; this is why this is the next-to-last email list I still re=
ad after decades of online time-wasting. I don't play guitar but now want to=
 try this device.  Thanks for taking the time to compose & type, Bill.

Jim W, San Mateo, CA, USA.


On Sep 8, 2011, at 20:59, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:

> Well I had a chance to do some compressor comparisons the other night with=
 Henry Kaiser after I had been ogling his pedal board  and spying a rather b=
eautiful (as in clean and simple not gaudy) looking pedal, called a 1960, wh=
ich he described as being the absolute best floor compressor on the market. T=
hat got my attention,  as the verdict for me was still out on the floor comp=
ressor sweepstakes.  Over the next few days of e-mail exchange I asked him w=
hy, and he said that it is the only attempt he is aware of by a small pedal b=
uilder  to recreate the vaunted vintage LA-2 rack mount studio compressor li=
miter in a compact pedal. Why is that so cool? Well for one thing its a two s=
tage compressor like the original and it is virtually free of the types of c=
ompression characteristics that detractors of compression don't like, partic=
ularly the  pumping and spongy dynamics. It does have magnificent  sustain t=
hough, and responds well when you turn down your instrument's volume or swit=
ch between instruments with different pickups and outputs.  The other thing a=
bout this compressor that i really like is it is chimp simple to use, two kn=
obs like a Keeley.  So a couple nights ago I had a opportunity  to hang out a=
gain with Henry and do some a/b comparisons between a number of high quality=
  pedal compressors and the 1960 blew them all away, not even close, no pump=
ing artifacts even at high settings and very quiet.=20
> This is a hand made pedal made by a very small operation in SoCal that spe=
cializes in rebuilds and mods of pultec  eq's and other classic analog studi=
o gear, They aren't cheap at $250 bucks, but in comparison with everything e=
lse I have tried in that price range it had the most transparent sound and  a=
nd best dynamic characteristics even at extreme settings.=20
>  I have one on order and will post a youtube vid when I have a chance.
>  check it out http://oldworldaudio.com/ and his youtube demo
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DTdy15V_Tmg0
>  Bill
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<html><body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><div><br>Excellent report; this is why this i=
s the next-to-last email list I still read after decades of online time-wast=
ing. I don't play guitar but now want to try this device. &nbsp;Thanks for t=
aking the time to compose &amp; type, Bill.</div><div><br></div><div>Jim W, S=
an Mateo, CA, USA.</div><div><br></div><div><br>On Sep 8, 2011, at 20:59, Wi=
lliam Walker &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:billwalker@baymoon.com">billwalker@baymoo=
n.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>=
Well I had a chance to do some compressor comparisons the other night with H=
enry Kaiser after I had been ogling his pedal board &nbsp;and spying a rathe=
r beautiful (as in clean and simple not gaudy) looking pedal, called a 1960,=
 which he described as being the absolute best floor compressor on the marke=
t. That got my attention, &nbsp;as the verdict for me was still out on the f=
loor compressor sweepstakes. &nbsp;Over the next few days of e-mail exchange=
 I asked him why, and he said that it is the only attempt he is aware of by a=
 small pedal builder &nbsp;to recreate the vaunted vintage LA-2 rack mount s=
tudio compressor limiter in a compact pedal. Why is that so cool? Well for o=
ne thing its a two stage compressor like the original and it is virtually fr=
ee of the types of compression characteristics that detractors of compressio=
n don't like, particularly the &nbsp;pumping and spongy dynamics. It does ha=
ve magnificent &nbsp;sustain though, and responds well when you turn down yo=
ur instrument's volume or switch between instruments with different pickups a=
nd outputs. &nbsp;The other thing about this compressor that i really like i=
s it is chimp simple to use, two knobs like a Keeley. &nbsp;So a couple nigh=
ts ago I had a opportunity &nbsp;to hang out again with Henry and do some a/=
b comparisons between a number of high quality &nbsp;pedal compressors and t=
he 1960 blew them all away, not even close, no pumping artifacts even at hig=
h settings and very quiet.&nbsp;<div>This is a hand made pedal made by a ver=
y small operation in SoCal that specializes in rebuilds and mods of pultec &=
nbsp;eq's and other classic analog studio gear, They aren't cheap at $250 bu=
cks, but in comparison with everything else I have tried in that price range=
 it had the most transparent sound and &nbsp;and best dynamic characteristic=
s even at extreme settings.&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;I have one on order and wi=
ll post a youtube vid when I have a chance.</div><div>&nbsp;check it out&nbs=
p;<a href=3D"http://oldworldaudio.com/"><a href=3D"http://oldworldaudio.com/=
">http://oldworldaudio.com/</a></a>&nbsp;and his youtube demo</div><div><a h=
ref=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DTdy15V_Tmg0"><a href=3D"http://www.y=
outube.com/watch?v=3DTdy15V_Tmg0">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DTdy15V_Tm=
g0</a></a></div><div>&nbsp;Bill</div><div><br></div></div></blockquote></bod=
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Just took delivery of the Timeline here (second batch).

- Build quality feels pretty solid. The tallish knobs worry me just a =
tad :)
- True bypass dry path (optional buffered too) is true indeed, no =
tonekill...
- Delay tonalities are sparkly, lush, very musical
- Very easy to figure out sans manual

Loving the high pass filters, the smear feature, the grit and filter =
features, the lo-fi mode is super fun and the tape delay is just =
gorgeous. The unit is quiet as can be in every mode.

It is *not* a looper with delay, as with the Jam Man, but a delay with a =
'hold' style looper, more like the Pigtronix Echolution.

I've not explored the looper beyond that, nor have I looked into the =
MIDI implementation. Totally looking forward to that.

At this point I have cautious but high hopes: I can foresee letting go =
of most of my other delays if possible... The Timeline seems to have all =
the stuff for which I've retained each of those units, plus more that =
none of them have, including precision control/readouts, preset save / =
recall banks, MIDI and and expression pedal support. Yippidy :)

Happy to share more details after some further exploration if there is =
interest.

Phil :)




On Aug 22, 2011, at 5:08 PM, michael noble wrote:

> oops. Asleep at the wheel again! Thanks for the info.
>=20
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@frontier.com> =
wrote:
>> This is the second batch. The first batch sold out in 5 min. roughly =
6-8
>> weeks ago. You can read a ton of reviews--pro and con--on The Gear =
Page.
>>=20
>> Jeff
>>=20
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i've always dreamed of an easier way to tweak my pedals i.e my boss dd3.
this fender pedal series might be of interest for those barefoot loopers :)
i remember our dear mr. Rick Walker posted a device which can be attached on
the regular size knobs awhile back.

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i&#39;ve always dreamed of an easier way to tweak my pedals i.e my boss dd3=
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:) i remember our dear mr. Rick Walker posted a device which can be attache=
d on the regular size knobs awhile back. <br>
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Cool, Weg. Only five minutes ago I got a call that mine is waiting for
me to pick up at the other side of the country. Will probably not have
time to get it until friday next week. Looking forward to use it both
in live concerts and for snagging MIDI while recording Stick pieces to
two audio tracks. I don't know if a guitar GK is coming with this
package (I already have a Stick model GK on the STick) but if it does
I will put that on a Les Paul that has alumintone humbuckers + Shadow
Nanomag acoustic mic (thinking that might be a useful combination).
Will check out the 12 string you're recommending.

All the best

Per


On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 2:47 AM, Thomas Wegmann <theweg@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey, sorry I haven't spoken up but I own the GR55 and love it but don't g=
et
> enough time with it to do much tweaking. =C2=A0I have programmed a few so=
unds I'm
> using live, sitar, strings and flute. =C2=A0I think it has the best sound=
ing
> 12-string I've heard from a box and the metal construction is a much need=
ed
> improvement.
> weg
>
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> It's the Danes! Danes-DAnes-Danes...
>> The GR is the greatest Dopaminer!
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:45 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
>> wrote:
>> > OH?? Was that a thing? I check a few weeks ago at my local shop and it
>> > was
>> > possible to order from Denmark too...
>> > Dang you Boysen, looks like you be before me... again..
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrot=
e:
>> >>
>> >> Dooodes! I just heard GR-55's are coming to Sweden now through
>> >> Denmark. Will pick up my pre ordered soon.
>> >>
>> >> Per
>> >> - gosh am low on dopamine 2day!
>> >> --
>> >
>> > Mark Francombe
>> > www.markfrancombe.com
>> > www.ordoabkhao.com
>> > http://vimeo.com/user825094
>> > http://www.looop.no
>> > twitter @markfrancombe
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Greg Wegmann
>
> TheWeg@Frontier.com
> TheWeg@GMail.com
>
>

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http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/110908.html

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem,
PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet.  WDIY also broadcasts
in Digital HD at 88.1 FM.

                 Show #753                September 8, 2011.

RECAP:
On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Robert Carty.  The
Featured CD at Midnight was "Oceanic Space" on Deep Sky Music Records.
http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#sep

Modulator ESP</a>, who will perform at the electro-music festival this
weekend, stopped by to play a live set on Galactic Travels.  See the
events page for details on electro-music.
Modulator ESP: http:///modulator-esp.co.uk
Events: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/events.html


PLAYLIST:

11:04 pm
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Kevin Braheny        Starflight 1 *       Galaxies (Hearts of Space)
Modulator ESP        Event Horizon * --   Event Horizon (Earth Mantra)
Modulator ESP        Interview            Live from WDIY
Modulator ESP        In-studio Concert    Live from WDIY

12:00 am
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Robert Carty         Immersion            Oceanic Space (Deep Sky Music)
Robert Carty         Floating Deep        Oceanic Space (Deep Sky Music)
Robert Carty         The Swirling Light   Oceanic Space (Deep Sky Music)
Robert Carty         Oceanic Space Joy    Oceanic Space (Deep Sky Music)
Robert Carty         Universal Drift      Oceanic Space (Deep Sky Music)
Robert Carty         Infinite Waves       Oceanic Space (Deep Sky Music)
Robert Carty         Splashing Life       Oceanic Space (Deep Sky Music)
Robert Carty         Oceanic Space Pt.1 * Oceanic Space (Deep Sky Music)

1:00 am

  * = excerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
++ = Advance CDR from Artist
-- = Background music under interview


NEXT SHOW:
On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on
Robert Carty.  The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Sun Tales" on Deep
Sky Music.

Bill
========================================================================
Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show,
Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in
Trexlertown and Fogelsville.  WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio
on 88.1 FM.
Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info
Listen to WDIY on-line.

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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

. 09.13.11 . THE AMBiENT PiNG presents RAMAC 305
featuring naw + ORTIZ + GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS
@ Supermarket . 268 Augusta Ave . Kensington Market
     just south of College  .  Map, info and directions at:
     http://www.supermarkettoronto.com/site/section/contact
     Tues. Sept. 13th . Doors open at 8:00 . 1st set at 8:30 . $6

. naw . Montreal ex-pat naw (Neil Wiernik) who currently calls
Toronto his home, began composing electronic music in 1988 with
explorations in audio art and experimental music. Neil's interest in
sound and technology has lead him to a continued questioning and
refinement of audio tools and modes of production resulting in
experimentation with altered instruments, modified devices, and
custom software environments. Neil's music could be described as
warm, atmospheric, and cinematic electronic music. The sound
design of naw is firmly grounded in the rich traditions of dub studio
culture but can also be weighed alongside formal contemporary
composition. His music has been described in "The Wire" as
having "...the kind of sharpness and clarity usually lost amid
the murk and decay of clicks and cuts and digital delays." Neil
has released music on various labels including noise factory
and more recently paper+sound under his naw guise. He has
also released music on elevation recordings and soon on BLRr
for his most recent ambient post rock project with aidan baker
as whisper room. Neil is also a founding member of the online
digital arts publication vague terrain.  http://www.phoniq.net

. Ortiz . Since his first release in 2003, a dense noise album that only
CBC radio-addicted insomniacs would have heard, Ortiz has continued
whittling away at layers of noise and sound in search of sonic gems.
Crafting richly textured tracks using guitar loops, voices, random
noises, synths, drum machines and whatever happy accidents happen
to make their way into the mix, Ortizs music evokes the organic chaos
of modern life. At times peaceful like a cold northern lake at others
screeching like a wonky subway car, Ortizs music takes the listener
on a ride through aural landscapes that are strange yet somehow
familiar. Ortiz has been featured in the online culture magazine
Vague Terrain and has released music on Pawn Shop Records
and ping things in addition to a number of self-released titles.
http://ortiz.bandcamp.com

. GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS . Don't blink or you'll miss the chaos.
For your eyeballs, Stephen Lindsey and Eric Siegerman are back
to mesmerize us with their wildly improvised analog projections
of evolving light paintings.  http://www.generalchaosvisuals.ca

. Between Sets CDs - A Produce (various)
Between sets we'll be spinning music by respected ambient artist
Barry Craig (A Produce) who passed away this week. There will be
tracks going back to 1994 and from his latest CD "Intangible" (with
Loren Nerell) released on the Hypnos label only a few months ago.
Here's some remembrances from the ambient music community:
http://www.hypnos.com/smf/index.php?topic=4199.0

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

COMiNG SOON

. TUESDAY OCTOBER 18th 2011 . VENERA 4 featuring
PHOLDE + ODRADEK + GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS

. TUESDAY NOVEMBER 8th 2011 . ASTEROiD 2005 YU55
featuring SylURMTRiBE (Sylken + URM + Arqa Dea Tribe)
+ SPACENOIZ + GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS

@ Supermarket . 268 Augusta Ave . Kensington Market
     just south of College  .  Map, info and directions at:
     http://www.supermarkettoronto.com/site/section/contact
     PiNG doors open at 8 . 1st set at 8:30 . $6

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

The Sound is Watching You

Deane Hughes and Rik MacLean of SubZeroArts invite you to attend
"The Sound is Watching You", an official project at Scotiabank Nuit
Blanche on October 1st, 2011 at AWOL Gallery in Toronto.

The Sound is Watching You is an interactive bio-sonar experience
in video and surround-sound that feeds on audience participation.
Visitors will enter the installation and their movements will be
transformed using echolocation technology into a blend of light,
video and 3D audio that constantly re-generates, morphs and
immerses the participants. Each visitor becomes an instrument of
light and sound - moving, dancing, and gliding through a space
that they have helped to create. By entering the space, you become
part of the exhibit. You aren't just looking at art in "The Sound is
Watching You", you are the art!

Visit http://www.subzeroarts.com to learn more about "The Sound
is Watching You", and to find out how you can help make it happen!

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Flowers Of Hell "O" Free Download

Flowers of Hell composed "O" for their PiNG performance in 2009
and later produced a concert film of "O" from their performance
at the Music Gallery. The Flowers of Hell have posted the stereo
mix as a free download available here:
http://soundcloud.com/flowersofhell/o

For those of you who are into chilling at home with surround
sound concert films, the Flowers of Hell also have a double
sided CD/DVD of "O" Live At The Music Gallery concert film
featuring a 5.1 surround sound mix:
http://www.outside-music.com/store/product.php?productid=16549&cat=0&page=1

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Transmorphous Sound Ensemble Links

TSE's Chris Meloche has compiled a video clip excerpt
from their performance at the PiNG's 12th ANNiVERSARY
last month which you can find here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkzh2ACVvNg

The complete audio of their performance last month (and other
TSE shows) is also now online on the TSE Live Archive page:
http://www.chrismeloche.com/TSE-live-archive.htm

TSE has also uploaded two videopoems they would like to share
featuring the soundscapes of the TSE with Penn Kemp. These
were originally part of a production called The Space Between
which premiered last September:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yeu879CZcSQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Wv-sAp-g1A

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

And here's an ambient video tribute to Jack Layton by Scott M2
inspired by the many hundreds of personal messages left in
chalk on the walls and sidewalks outside of Toronto City Hall
after his death on August 22, 2011. The soundtrack is
Deeper by dreamSTATE.  http://youtu.be/VvKj0Im8YvA

Speaking of dreamSTATE, Scott and Jamie will play a set and then
improvise with Alan Bloor and friends at Somewhere There on
Tues. Sept. 20th . 8pm . $8 . 227 Sterling Road, Unit 112
http://www.somewherethere.org

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

THE AMBiENT PiNG is a Toronto based creative community of
audio artists, performers, musicians and visual artists. The PiNG
presents live multimedia performances featuring ambient, electronic,
soundscape, space, drone, psychedelic, chillout, downtempo,
darkwave and experimental artists from around the world.
http://www.theambientping.com

The PiNG also has a Twitter account to send you advance updates
and reminders of the when & where of future PiNG events.
Just search for ambientping to find us. http://twitter.com

We're also on facebook too, again just search THE AMBiENT PiNG.
http://www.facebook.com

ViSiT the ping things store for ambient, electronic and chill things:
http://www.pingthings.com

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Please forward this e-mail to any interested friends or
appropriate newsgroups. Thanks.

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have you used an eventide time factor, how is this different/better?
  Thanks
Bill

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Bill, I have not used a TimeFactor.

Quick feature-by-feature comparison, seems like the TimeFactor has more =
I/O nuance, and the TimeLine has an effects loop insert when used in =
mono mode. Other than that, they appear almost identical. Looking =
forward to seeing some direct comparisons from folks in the know :)

Phil :)


On Sep 9, 2011, at 9:28 PM, William Walker wrote:

> have you used an eventide time factor, how is this different/better?
> Thanks
> Bill
>=20

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First time I stumble upon the theory of "music of the spheres"*.*
**I can see looping content here, maybe some of you will find it
interesting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musica_universalis

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http://www.neilardley.com/harmony-of-the-spheres/

Fabio_A wrote:
> First time I stumble upon the theory of "music of the spheres"*.*
> **I can see looping content here, maybe some of you will find it 
> interesting.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musica_universalis
> 

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On Sep 10, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Phil Clevenger wrote:

> Bill, I have not used a TimeFactor.
>
> Quick feature-by-feature comparison, seems like the TimeFactor has  
> more I/O nuance, and the TimeLine has an effects loop insert when  
> used in mono mode. Other than that, they appear almost identical.  
> Looking forward to seeing some direct comparisons from folks in the  
> know :)

There's extensive discussion/comparison of both units on The Gear  
Page, if you want to take a gander over there.

Jeff

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> Fabio_A wrote:
>> First time I stumble upon the theory of "music of the spheres"*.*
>> **I can see looping content here,


Yes, very interesting. Here, enjoy: http://wlym.com/antidummies/part36.html

I could imagine loops of different lengths in a multi looper, the loop  
lengths reflecting the relationships between the visible planets. You  
could also/or base the loops on different pitches.

I didn't read all but I guess it mentions that Kepler was preoccupied  
with harmonic relationships. Galileo Galilei's father and younger  
brother were both famous lutenists. The Medieval/Renaissance idea, as  
I understand it, was that we glimpse moments of ecstasy through our  
imperfect music and aspire to the perfect music we cannot but imagine.  
I think some non-western cultures name the notes or strings of some  
instruments based on the planets

On Sep 10, 2011, at 7:57 PM, andy butler wrote:
> http://www.neilardley.com/harmony-of-the-spheres/

And let's not forget Holst's The Planets.

How much memory would it take to loop on the cosmic scale of time?

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cf., http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Now_Foundation

=85 sounds like the kind of project they could appreciate. :P

Of course, Eno was working with generative software that would create
loops of unequal lengths such that they would only come into synchrony
on time scales beyond our reckoning =97 that idea is very present in his
"77 Million Paintings."
(http://longnow.org/events/02007/jun/29/77-million-paintings-brian-eno/).
And it was also a Long Now project.

Best,

Dennis

P.S. Ed, thanks for the mention of the lute connections of the Galileis!


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>
> And let's not forget Holst's The Planets.
> How much memory would it take to loop on the cosmic scale of time?
> Ed Durbrow
> Saitama, Japan
> http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/
> http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/
>
>
>

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Per Boysen wrote:
> Only five minutes ago I got a call that mine is waiting for
> me to pick up at the other side of the country. Will probably not have
> time to get it until friday next week.

Looking forward to see what you're able to do with it, Per.  BTW, I 
don't remember: is your Stick a regular 10-string or a 12-String Grand? 
  IIRC, it's a Bamboo, right?

(Hey, I was just over at Stick.Com referencing the tuning section, and 
noticed a new instrument entry for the SG-12 Stick Guitar since last 
time I visited.  Modeling that instrument, who do I see but a photo of 
our own handsome Per.  Looking good, Mr. Boysen! :)

When I first picked up my VG-99, I was still back in the States and able 
to try it out on my own Grand, which has a 13-pin GK-2a on the Melody 
half.  I didn't really have plans on using the VG with my Stick, so I 
didn't concentrate much on configuration at that time.  However, I did 
notice that that there were some tracking problems down around the low B 
on the Stick, particularly with the MIDI.  On the other hand, I keep my 
regular everyday axe -- a Switch guitar with an internal GK-3 -- tuned 
down to a low A and I never have any issue with its tracking, so perhaps 
the issue is merely isolated to my own 12-string Grand.

Unfortunately, I've only got my Alto over here in Japan and it doesn't 
have a GK on it, so I can't really test.  Haven't been keeping up with 
the Stick list for about the past year, so I don't know if anybody over 
there has reported any other tracking issues with the VG or the new 
GR-55.  It's worth watching out for, though, just in case.

Since the Stick is an extremely dynamic instrument, here's a programming 
tip I've used on my VG that *should* translate to the GR-55.  Note that 
the Input Level can be used as a modulation source, and there are a 
billion different modulation destinations.  So, the dynamics of your 
playing can control almost any parameter.  You can link it to EQ in 
order to control the color of your tone, or Amp Drive to add distortion 
on those notes where you really dig in.  You can also invert the input 
curve, so that it can be used for ducking delay or reverb in the effects 
section.  Lots of fun to be had there, and the Stick is a great 
instrument with which to experiment.

> I don't know if a guitar GK is coming with this
> package (I already have a Stick model GK on the STick) but if it does
> I will put that on a Les Paul that has alumintone humbuckers + Shadow
> Nanomag acoustic mic (thinking that might be a useful combination).

Hey, if you've got an extra GK laying around, be adventurous!!!  ;)

I've had good luck mounting 'em on my Frankenguitar (remember the 
11-string fretless that I was playing at the Y2k7 Loopfest?), and now 
I've got a GK on my lap steel driving my VG-99.  Richard McLish told me 
that he'd mounted one onto a mandolin.

As long as you're just sticking it on with tape (you can always mount it 
permanently later) try it out on anything you can get your hands on. 
You'd be surprised at how well it works, and you never know what you 
might discover!

	-m-

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mark francombe wrote:
> Sounding very cool Duke, especially as the LFO style seqiencing is
> somethig Im very into on my modular,
>
> Still trying to sell a few things, but looking increasingly like =CD wa=
nna
> get a 55 now!

Yeah, it's sounding like it should be a pretty nice little piece of kit.=20
  Hope you can manage to work out the arrangements for getting one soon.

I've been playing with a few other functions in the Effects section on=20
my VG-99.  There are two general "Mod" modules -- Mod 1 and Mod 2 --=20
which can each be set to one of a number of effects, your choice.=20
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s.)

The cool thing about the Pitch Shift in the Effects section is that it=20
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the GR-55 has more memory allocated to delay effects than the VG-99, I=20
believe.  If they've upped the delay time on this module, you should be=20
able to get some nice arpeggiator effects via that alone.

Even if they haven't upgraded that delay time on the Pitch Shift module,=20
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effects, albeit with limitations (of course).

The signal chain on the COSM model begins with the input of the=20
instrument's original pickups.  Immediately following that, the output=20
from the COSM instrument is added into the chain.  The cool thing about=20
this is that you can insert other effect modules into the chain between=20
the Normal Guitar and the COSM Guitar.  These effects would only affect=20
your regular guitar output, but wouldn't be put on the COSM instrument=20
-- since they are placed in the chain before the COSM Guitar enters it.

So what I've done is to place both a Pitch Shift module then the Delay=20
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the COSM Guitar.

I know there are several high end pitch shifters that allow this same=20
sort of algorithm, and it's pretty easy to emulate arpeggiator-style=20
effects using natural, non-synthesized sounds.  Doubtless you can use a=20
synthesized sound (such as from the GR-55's Synth Section) to emulate a=20
traditional keyboard arpeggiator as well.

And, of course, every one of those techniques -- the Alternate Tuning=20
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input -- can all be combined in various amounts to give you all kinds of=20
different effects.  It's a great source of fun on a slow afternoon.  ;)

	-m-

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On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Dust Bunnies <mech@m3ch.net> wrote:
> Looking forward to see what you're able to do with it, Per. =C2=A0BTW, I =
don't
> remember: is your Stick a regular 10-string or a 12-String Grand? =C2=A0I=
IRC,
> it's a Bamboo, right?


Hi Duke,

Many thanks for the great sound programming tips for the GR55! I only
have one GK pickup and it is on my SG-12, the one on the picture at
www.stick.com. And yes, that instrument is bamboo. The SG-12 is a
quite different instrument than the Grand Stick; I like it better for
playing but I will try to avoid selling the Grand because I sometimes
need its sound for recordings.

I'll pick up my GR55 on Friday and there won't come a GK with it, so I
think I will stick to Stick GR-ing. If getting a second GK I think I
will rather have one also on the SG-12's other fretboard than on a
guitar.

Your tip about using input level as a modulation source is no less
than awesome! I did that a lot when I had a TC FireworX and it is such
a powerful live sound design technique.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub

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Interesting (and complex) reading, thanks for sharing it.

-f

Il giorno 10/set/2011, alle ore 15:47, Ed Durbrow <edurbrow@sea.plala.or.jp>=
 ha scritto:

>> Fabio_A wrote:
>>> First time I stumble upon the theory of "music of the spheres"*.*
>>> **I can see looping content here,
>=20
>=20
> Yes, very interesting. Here, enjoy: http://wlym.com/antidummies/part36.htm=
l
>=20
> I could imagine loops of different lengths in a multi looper, the loop len=
gths reflecting the relationships between the visible planets. You could als=
o/or base the loops on different pitches.=20
>=20
> I didn't read all but I guess it mentions that Kepler was preoccupied with=
 harmonic relationships. Galileo Galilei's father and younger brother were b=
oth famous lutenists. The Medieval/Renaissance idea, as I understand it, was=
 that we glimpse moments of ecstasy through our imperfect music and aspire t=
o the perfect music we cannot but imagine. I think some non-western cultures=
 name the notes or strings of some instruments based on the planets
>=20
> On Sep 10, 2011, at 7:57 PM, andy butler wrote:
>> http://www.neilardley.com/harmony-of-the-spheres/
>=20
> And let's not forget Holst's The Planets.
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> How much memory would it take to loop on the cosmic scale of time?
>=20
> Ed Durbrow
> Saitama, Japan
> http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/
> http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/
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<html><body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><div>Interesting (and complex) reading, than=
ks for sharing it.</div><div><br></div><div>-f</div><div><br>Il giorno 10/se=
t/2011, alle ore 15:47, Ed Durbrow &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:edurbrow@sea.plala.=
or.jp">edurbrow@sea.plala.or.jp</a>&gt; ha scritto:<br><br></div><div></div>=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div><div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div=
>Fabio_A wrote:<br><blockquote type=3D"cite">First time I stumble upon the t=
heory of "music of the spheres"*.*<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
>**I can see looping content here,</blockquote></div></blockquote></div><div=
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ne; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizo=
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div><div>Yes, very interesting. Here, enjoy:&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://wlym.com=
/antidummies/part36.html"><a href=3D"http://wlym.com/antidummies/part36.html=
">http://wlym.com/antidummies/part36.html</a></a></div><div><br></div>I coul=
d imagine loops of different lengths in a multi looper, the loop lengths ref=
lecting the relationships between the visible planets. You could also/or bas=
e the loops on different pitches.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>I didn't read all=
 but I guess it mentions that Kepler was preoccupied with harmonic relations=
hips. Galileo Galilei's father and younger brother were both famous lutenist=
s. The Medieval/Renaissance idea, as I understand it, was that we glimpse mo=
ments of ecstasy through our imperfect music and aspire to the perfect music=
 we cannot but imagine. I think some non-western cultures name the notes or s=
trings of some instruments based on the planets<div><div><br><div><div>On Se=
p 10, 2011, at 7:57 PM, andy butler wrote:</div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><d=
iv><a href=3D"http://www.neilardley.com/harmony-of-the-spheres/"><a href=3D"=
http://www.neilardley.com/harmony-of-the-spheres/">http://www.neilardley.com=
/harmony-of-the-spheres/</a></a><br></div></blockquote><br></div><div>And le=
t's not forget Holst's The Planets.</div><div><br></div><div>How much memory=
 would it take to loop on the cosmic scale of time?</div><div><br></div><div=
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Per Boysen wrote:
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> Many thanks for the great sound programming tips for the GR55!

Glad to be of help!  :)

The only caveat is that most of my programming experience is on the VG, 
rather than the GR.  However, from what I've seen, there are tons of 
similarities regarding the two architectures, so the tips should 
translate directly for the most part.

> I only
> have one GK pickup and it is on my SG-12, the one on the picture at
> www.stick.com. And yes, that instrument is bamboo. The SG-12 is a
> quite different instrument than the Grand Stick; I like it better for
> playing but I will try to avoid selling the Grand because I sometimes
> need its sound for recordings.

The SG-12 is a sweet little instrument.  If that model had been 
available when I ordered my Alto, I very well might have gone for it 
instead!

And, yes, I agree: keeping the Grand around for different tonal options 
is a great idea.  That's one reason why I've kept mine (even though it's 
been in storage the past few years).  It's got the ACTV-2 pickup on 
there in addition to the GK, which gives it a very open and acoustic 
sound; nothing at all like the PASV-4 on my Alto, or the Stickup I used 
to have on my old carbon-fiber "Darth Vader" 10-string (the one that was 
stolen, grrrrrr!).

> I'll pick up my GR55 on Friday and there won't come a GK with it, so I
> think I will stick to Stick GR-ing. If getting a second GK I think I
> will rather have one also on the SG-12's other fretboard than on a
> guitar.

That should be a nice setup.  You can then choose which 'side' you wish 
to run through the GR-55.  Or, of course, you can always get a second 
GK-compatible device and run them both simultaneously <*evil grin*>.

> Your tip about using input level as a modulation source is no less
> than awesome! I did that a lot when I had a TC FireworX and it is such
> a powerful live sound design technique.

Yes, I thought I'd remembered your helping Bill out with a couple of 
FireworX related questions regarding that, which is one reason I thought 
of mentioning it.  The cool thing, though, is that you don't have to 
limit yourself to applying it only to effects processing.  You can use 
it to shape the design of the instrument itself.

Can't wait to hear your impressions.  Let us know how it goes.

	-m-

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Quite often it occurs on LD that there is a post about creating live visuals
to our music. I have always been interested in this, and have always tried
to have a visual element to what I do. Recently I have become involved in a
new art/music project, basically a looping band, with sensors and dancers
and guest speakers and what-not... where we intend on creating a visual
element Live as well. I do not want to use pr-made video loops, and although
having a permanent visual member on the band is an exiting option, we are
not investigating that just yet.
To that end, I spent this weekend doing a bit of research on VJ programs,
and thought Id post my initail finding in my website... HERE!

http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?p=1449

Bare in mind the caveats, Im looking for very specific functionality, but I
think that my reviews were really all about overall impressions rather than
detailed analysis.
Hope some of you find it useful... its been quite an eye-opener for me, I'm
even considering making something related, an MA degree project.

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Quite often it occurs on LD that there is a post about creating live visual=
s to our music. I have always been interested in this, and have always trie=
d to have a visual element to what I do. Recently I have become involved in=
 a new art/music project, basically a looping band, with sensors and dancer=
s and guest speakers and what-not... where we intend on creating a visual e=
lement Live as well. I do not want to use pr-made video loops, and although=
 having a permanent visual member on the band is an exiting option, we are =
not investigating that just yet. <br>

To that end, I spent this weekend doing a bit of research on VJ programs, a=
nd thought Id post my initail finding in my website... HERE!<br><br><span i=
d=3D"sample-permalink"><a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?p=
=3D1449">http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?p=3D1449</a><br>

<br>Bare in mind the caveats, Im looking for very specific functionality, b=
ut I think that my reviews were really all about overall impressions rather=
 than detailed analysis.<br>Hope some of you find it useful... its been qui=
te an eye-opener for me, I&#39;m even considering making something related,=
 an MA degree project.<br clear=3D"all">

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Intresting.. thanks..
Is there anyway to save a video and it's connection to audio to make someth=
ing you can upload to youtube...

From: mark@markfrancombe.com
Date: Sun=2C 11 Sep 2011 13:52:46 +0200
Subject: OT: VJ Programs=2C tested... by me!!
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Quite often it occurs on LD that there is a post about creating live visual=
s to our music. I have always been interested in this=2C and have always tr=
ied to have a visual element to what I do. Recently I have become involved =
in a new art/music project=2C basically a looping band=2C with sensors and =
dancers and guest speakers and what-not... where we intend on creating a vi=
sual element Live as well. I do not want to use pr-made video loops=2C and =
although having a permanent visual member on the band is an exiting option=
=2C we are not investigating that just yet.=20


To that end=2C I spent this weekend doing a bit of research on VJ programs=
=2C and thought Id post my initail finding in my website... HERE!

http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?p=3D1449



Bare in mind the caveats=2C Im looking for very specific functionality=2C b=
ut I think that my reviews were really all about overall impressions rather=
 than detailed analysis.
Hope some of you find it useful... its been quite an eye-opener for me=2C I=
'm even considering making something related=2C an MA degree project.


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www.markfrancombe.com

www.ordoabkhao.comhttp://vimeo.com/user825094

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Intresting.. thanks..<div><br></div><div>Is there anyway to save a video an=
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r><br><div><hr id=3D"stopSpelling">From: mark@markfrancombe.com<br>Date: Su=
n=2C 11 Sep 2011 13:52:46 +0200<br>Subject: OT: VJ Programs=2C tested... by=
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ave always been interested in this=2C and have always tried to have a visua=
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s well. I do not want to use pr-made video loops=2C and although having a p=
ermanent visual member on the band is an exiting option=2C we are not inves=
tigating that just yet. <br>

To that end=2C I spent this weekend doing a bit of research on VJ programs=
=2C and thought Id post my initail finding in my website... HERE!<br><br><s=
pan id=3D"ecxsample-permalink"><a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com/word=
press/?p=3D1449" target=3D"_blank">http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?=
p=3D1449</a><br>

<br>Bare in mind the caveats=2C Im looking for very specific functionality=
=2C but I think that my reviews were really all about overall impressions r=
ather than detailed analysis.<br>Hope some of you find it useful... its bee=
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IN all three you can save a performance as you go, making a quicktime file
or whatever... so yes. I suspect there may be some frame dropping along the
way.
I immediately got a very interesting comment pointing me in more esoteric
and involved directions, so I have more to research...

On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Anders Bergdahl <
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>  Intresting.. thanks..
>
> Is there anyway to save a video and it's connection to audio to make
> something you can upload to youtube...
>
>
>
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IN all three you can save a performance as you go, making a quicktime file =
or whatever... so yes. I suspect there may be some frame dropping along the=
 way.<br>I immediately got a very interesting comment pointing me in more e=
soteric and involved directions, so I have more to research... <br>

<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Anders Berg=
dahl <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com"=
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d it&#39;s connection to audio to make something you can upload to youtube.=
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Interesting blog Mark. I've toyed with live clips and done a bit of VJing n=
 my time=2C (using Resolume) but I'd like something that reacts to the musi=
c I play rather than playing the visuals.Keep us posted on your results.
Gareth=2C=20

From: mark@markfrancombe.com
Date: Sun=2C 11 Sep 2011 13:52:46 +0200
Subject: OT: VJ Programs=2C tested... by me!!
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Quite often it occurs on LD that there is a post about creating live visual=
s to our music. I have always been interested in this=2C and have always tr=
ied to have a visual element to what I do. Recently I have become involved =
in a new art/music project=2C basically a looping band=2C with sensors and =
dancers and guest speakers and what-not... where we intend on creating a vi=
sual element Live as well. I do not want to use pr-made video loops=2C and =
although having a permanent visual member on the band is an exiting option=
=2C we are not investigating that just yet.=20


To that end=2C I spent this weekend doing a bit of research on VJ programs=
=2C and thought Id post my initail finding in my website... HERE!

http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?p=3D1449



Bare in mind the caveats=2C Im looking for very specific functionality=2C b=
ut I think that my reviews were really all about overall impressions rather=
 than detailed analysis.
Hope some of you find it useful... its been quite an eye-opener for me=2C I=
'm even considering making something related=2C an MA degree project.


--=20
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www.markfrancombe.com

www.ordoabkhao.comhttp://vimeo.com/user825094

http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
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Interesting blog Mark. I've toyed with live clips and done a bit of VJing n=
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c I play rather than playing the visuals.<div>Keep us posted on your result=
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light.com<br><br>Quite often it occurs on LD that there is a post about cre=
ating live visuals to our music. I have always been interested in this=2C a=
nd have always tried to have a visual element to what I do. Recently I have=
 become involved in a new art/music project=2C basically a looping band=2C =
with sensors and dancers and guest speakers and what-not... where we intend=
 on creating a visual element Live as well. I do not want to use pr-made vi=
deo loops=2C and although having a permanent visual member on the band is a=
n exiting option=2C we are not investigating that just yet. <br>

To that end=2C I spent this weekend doing a bit of research on VJ programs=
=2C and thought Id post my initail finding in my website... HERE!<br><br><s=
pan id=3D"ecxsample-permalink"><a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com/word=
press/?p=3D1449" target=3D"_blank">http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?=
p=3D1449</a><br>

<br>Bare in mind the caveats=2C Im looking for very specific functionality=
=2C but I think that my reviews were really all about overall impressions r=
ather than detailed analysis.<br>Hope some of you find it useful... its bee=
n quite an eye-opener for me=2C I'm even considering making something relat=
ed=2C an MA degree project.<br clear=3D"all">

</span><br>-- <br><i style=3D"font-family:verdana=2Csans-serif=3Bcolor:rgb(=
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On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 1:52 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
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Thanks a lot! I appreciate this round-up.

If using Ableton Live there is the very simple but yet powerful option
to drop a quicktime on a track and have it shown as video. When I
tried this the video did follow tempo just as any audio clip would,
but without audio warping (Abletonish that means time stretching).
This means that if you run into a lower tempo during the show video
clips' audio will go slower and at a lower pitch just as the picture
go slow-mo. You may chose to not mix the QT audio into the output of
course. The might seem "pre canned" but it doesn't have to be all the
way. See, you can treat QT clips in Live just as you treat audio clips
when setting up generative music systems with the random scripting of
clip launching. Any MIDI passing through your system can be assigned
to also control a variable in Live to make clips follow for example
live looping commands.

For those who haven't tried out Live's random scripting, the best way
is to fill upp a track in the session view (mixer) with video- or
audio clips and for each clip you may set the probability for a chosen
action to take place. One such action can be to switch to another clip
(randomly, or the next, or previous clip etc etc). You may also set
the frequency of how often that action will be up and of course also
the probability to happen at that point. And you may have loads of
alternative clip tracks set to different types of randomization and
switch between them manually or set any controller in system chose
which one will be active. I have noticed that if you run many video
clip tracks in parallel only one is piped to the video output and that
will always be the last clip launched.

You're not forced to only use rapid cuts, you can also assign a MIDI
CC# to rate/pitch/transform (or whatever Live calls it) to have the
video's virtual slow/speed knob tweaked.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
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As always a very informative post Per.. as I said my specific interest is to
generate visual content from the music, and NOT have clips... but the other
2 guys in my band are both using Abelton, so its seems like we need to make
some experiments... I really dont want the visual side to be something that
we have to concentrate on whale playing however...

M

On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 1:52 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
> wrote:
> > www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?p=1449
>
>
> Thanks a lot! I appreciate this round-up.
>
>


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As always a very informative post Per.. as I said my specific interest is t=
o generate visual content from the music, and NOT have clips... but the oth=
er 2 guys in my band are both using Abelton, so its seems like we need to m=
ake some experiments... I really dont want the visual side to be something =
that we have to concentrate on whale playing however...<br>

<br>M<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Pe=
r Boysen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perbo=
ysen@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">

<div class=3D"im">On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 1:52 PM, mark francombe &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?p=3D1449" target=3D=
"_blank">www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?p=3D1449</a><br>
<br>
<br>
</div>Thanks a lot! I appreciate this round-up.<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
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Garath, that exactly what interests me too, and Resolume has some ways to do
this, audio and midi info can be routed to all effect parameters, and if
programming graphics in QC, these clips can also have up to 4 parameters
tweaked by the music, and / or midi info...


M



On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Gareth Whittock
<buddhamachine@live.co.uk>wrote:

>  Interesting blog Mark. I've toyed with live clips and done a bit of VJing
> n my time, (using Resolume) but I'd like something that reacts to the music
> I play rather than playing the visuals.
> Keep us posted on your results.
>
> Gareth,
>
> ------------------------------
> From: mark@markfrancombe.com
> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 13:52:46 +0200
> Subject: OT: VJ Programs, tested... by me!!
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
> Quite often it occurs on LD that there is a post about creating live
> visuals to our music. I have always been interested in this, and have always
> tried to have a visual element to what I do. Recently I have become involved
> in a new art/music project, basically a looping band, with sensors and
> dancers and guest speakers and what-not... where we intend on creating a
> visual element Live as well. I do not want to use pr-made video loops, and
> although having a permanent visual member on the band is an exiting option,
> we are not investigating that just yet.
> To that end, I spent this weekend doing a bit of research on VJ programs,
> and thought Id post my initail finding in my website... HERE!
>
> http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?p=1449
>
> Bare in mind the caveats, Im looking for very specific functionality, but I
> think that my reviews were really all about overall impressions rather than
> detailed analysis.
> Hope some of you find it useful... its been quite an eye-opener for me, I'm
> even considering making something related, an MA degree project.
>
> --
> *Mark Francombe*
> www.markfrancombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no
> twitter @markfrancombe
>



-- 
*Mark Francombe*
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Garath, that exactly what interests me too, and Resolume has some ways to d=
o this, audio and midi info can be routed to all effect parameters, and if =
programming graphics in QC, these clips can also have up to 4 parameters tw=
eaked by the music, and / or midi info...<br>

<br><br>M<br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at=
 3:14 PM, Gareth Whittock <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:buddhamac=
hine@live.co.uk">buddhamachine@live.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc s=
olid;padding-left:1ex;">





<div><div dir=3D"ltr">
Interesting blog Mark. I&#39;ve toyed with live clips and done a bit of VJi=
ng n my time, (using Resolume) but I&#39;d like something that reacts to th=
e music I play rather than playing the visuals.<div>Keep us posted on your =
results.</div>

<div><br><font color=3D"#888888">Gareth,=A0<br><br></font><div><div class=
=3D"im"><hr>From: <a href=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com" target=3D"_blan=
k">mark@markfrancombe.com</a><br>Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 13:52:46 +0200<br>S=
ubject: OT: VJ Programs, tested... by me!!<br>

To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank=
">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br><br></div><div><div></div><div=
 class=3D"h5">Quite often it occurs on LD that there is a post about creati=
ng live visuals to our music. I have always been interested in this, and ha=
ve always tried to have a visual element to what I do. Recently I have beco=
me involved in a new art/music project, basically a looping band, with sens=
ors and dancers and guest speakers and what-not... where we intend on creat=
ing a visual element Live as well. I do not want to use pr-made video loops=
, and although having a permanent visual member on the band is an exiting o=
ption, we are not investigating that just yet. <br>



To that end, I spent this weekend doing a bit of research on VJ programs, a=
nd thought Id post my initail finding in my website... HERE!<br><br><span><=
a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?p=3D1449" target=3D"_blan=
k">http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?p=3D1449</a><br>



<br>Bare in mind the caveats, Im looking for very specific functionality, b=
ut I think that my reviews were really all about overall impressions rather=
 than detailed analysis.<br>Hope some of you find it useful... its been qui=
te an eye-opener for me, I&#39;m even considering making something related,=
 an MA degree project.<br clear=3D"all">



</span><br>-- <br><i style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(255,=
 255, 255);background-color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><font style=3D"font-family:trebuc=
het ms,sans-serif" size=3D"4"><u>Mark Francombe</u></font></i><br><font siz=
e=3D"1"><a style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.=
com/" target=3D"_blank">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br style=3D"color:rgb(51,=
 0, 51)">



<a style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com/" targe=
t=3D"_blank">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)"><a st=
yle=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" target=3D=
"_blank">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)">



<a style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" href=3D"http://www.looop.no/" target=3D"_=
blank">http://www.looop.no</a><br>twitter @markfrancombe</font><br></div></=
div></div></div> 		 	   		  </div></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><i style=3D"font-family=
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ncombe</u></font></i><br>

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abkhao.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br style=3D"color:rgb=
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51)"><a style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" href=3D"http://www.looop.no/" target=
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On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 3:41 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> as I said my specific interest is to generate visual content from the music,
> and NOT have clips... but the other 2 guys in my band are both using
> Abelton, so its seems like we need to make some experiments... I really dont
> want the visual side to be something that we have to concentrate on whale
> playing however...

Sure. With this instant Ableton trick the music can generate The
Playback of pre chosen video clips, but not the visual content of each
clip.

Per

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Hey there Mark,

Fairly recently I uploaded my very first efforts at manipulating video =
to YouTube and posted about them here.

I am at a very early beginning phase in my learning process, but it =
sounds to me like the direction you are going in is very much similar to =
what I ultimately intend.

I still have a very, very long way to go, but my aim is to make a video =
system that responds to live music as well.

So far, I have only made my videos from short VJ clips, and have tried =
to cobble them together to fit the music.

Like I said, it is a learning process.

But, since I am already using MaxMSP I am about to delve into the =
possibilities of using it (and Jitter) to do what you are =
describing...somewhat.

Your approach sounds very interesting, and these programs seem very well =
worth checking out to me too.

Thanks for posting about them.

I was only saying to the wife the other day, that if I had it all to do =
over again, instead of studying painting and printmaking, I would/should =
have  studied cinema and video.

Keep us posted.

What you have shared looks encouraging - even though I am a long way =
behind you.

Cheers,

Ted




On Sep 11, 2011, at 4:52 AM, mark francombe wrote:

> Quite often it occurs on LD that there is a post about creating live =
visuals to our music. I have always been interested in this, and have =
always tried to have a visual element to what I do. Recently I have =
become involved in a new art/music project, basically a looping band, =
with sensors and dancers and guest speakers and what-not... where we =
intend on creating a visual element Live as well. I do not want to use =
pr-made video loops, and although having a permanent visual member on =
the band is an exiting option, we are not investigating that just yet.=20=

> To that end, I spent this weekend doing a bit of research on VJ =
programs, and thought Id post my initail finding in my website... HERE!
>=20
> http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?p=3D1449
>=20
> Bare in mind the caveats, Im looking for very specific functionality, =
but I think that my reviews were really all about overall impressions =
rather than detailed analysis.
> Hope some of you find it useful... its been quite an eye-opener for =
me, I'm even considering making something related, an MA degree project.
>=20
> --=20
> Mark Francombe
> www.markfrancombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no
> twitter @markfrancombe

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Thanks Ted...
A lot can happen a few hours, and now I have recieved a wealth of
information from many sources. It seems that my post was also retweeted by
my friends at furtherfield.org (I wrote reviews for furthernoise.org) and
its somehow got to the right people. Many thought my post useful, but one or
two , sounding like Pros, came back and said that those softwarez are all
considered rather low level, and that the big VJ names are really
programming there own things, either in Msx/msp jitter (full marks Ted) OR..
I i think this looks very interesting, a software called VDMX, and that in
combination with the Quartz Composer patches, THIS was the way to go...
I have d/led VDMX and as we speak am going thru its tutorials... its a build
your own thing, environment, buttons and everything, so it hardly fits my
"its gotta work out a the box" caveat, but so far, is looking interesting,
if I wanna take this ALL THE WAY... which I increasingly do...
I stiff stand by my original recommendation of Resolume however, and will
continue to experiment with that one... a software with a watermark (and
audio watermark) but NOT save disabled, is muc easier to work with and
learn, than a product that is fully functional, but with save disabled...

When I have Resolume working as I want, I will of course buy.

Ill report back on VDMX (If no one minds the OT-ness of this)



By the way, does anyone live in Cambridge UK?
My wife needs a place to stay while shes at a Alchemy Conference in 2 weeks
time...



Mark




-- 
*Mark Francombe*
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe

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Thanks Ted...<br>A lot can happen a few hours, and now I have recieved a we=
alth of information from many sources. It seems that my post was also retwe=
eted by my friends at <a href=3D"http://furtherfield.org">furtherfield.org<=
/a> (I wrote reviews for <a href=3D"http://furthernoise.org">furthernoise.o=
rg</a>) and its somehow got to the right people. Many thought my post usefu=
l, but one or two , sounding like Pros, came back and said that those softw=
arez are all considered rather low level, and that the big VJ names are rea=
lly programming there own things, either in Msx/msp jitter (full marks Ted)=
 OR.. I i think this looks very interesting, a software called VDMX, and th=
at in combination with the Quartz Composer patches, THIS was the way to go.=
..<br>

I have d/led VDMX and as we speak am going thru its tutorials... its a buil=
d your own thing, environment, buttons and everything, so it hardly fits my=
 &quot;its gotta work out a the box&quot; caveat, but so far, is looking in=
teresting, if I wanna take this ALL THE WAY... which I increasingly do...<b=
r>

I stiff stand by my original recommendation of Resolume however, and will c=
ontinue to experiment with that one... a software with a watermark (and aud=
io watermark) but NOT save disabled, is muc easier to work with and learn, =
than a product that is fully functional, but with save disabled...<br>

<br>When I have Resolume working as I want, I will of course buy.<br><br>Il=
l report back on VDMX (If no one minds the OT-ness of this)<br><br><br><br>=
By the way, does anyone live in Cambridge UK?<br>My wife needs a place to s=
tay while shes at a Alchemy Conference in 2 weeks time...<br>

<br><br><br>Mark<br><br><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><i style=3D"font-f=
amily:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(255, 255, 255);background-color:rgb(0, 0=
, 0)"><font style=3D"font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif" size=3D"4"><u>Mar=
k Francombe</u></font></i><br>

<font size=3D"1"><a style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" href=3D"http://www.markf=
rancombe.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br style=3D"colo=
r:rgb(51, 0, 51)"><a style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" href=3D"http://www.ordo=
abkhao.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br style=3D"color:rgb=
(51, 0, 51)">

<a style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" targ=
et=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, =
51)"><a style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" href=3D"http://www.looop.no/" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.looop.no</a><br>

twitter @markfrancombe</font><br>

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i'm going to set up my h4 in a field today and record the insects. it's a 
little breezy and i'll for sure need a windscreen. any home-cooked recipes 
for something effective? it'll be down in the grass, so it'll be a little 
protected. i'm thinking of a stretchy sock, but i'll need a framework to 
keep a dead air space between it and the built-in mics.



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>From experience with the H2, the foam windshield supplied 
is pretty good. (It's just a regular cheap mic windshield if
you didn't get anything with the H4) 
Plus getting the mic in a sheltered position, or even shielding it with 
your body can help a lot.

Rather than socks, stockings or tights are better acoustically
if you want to build something more elaborate.

What insects are you after?

andy
ps
http://www.ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=music&albumid=35
mine's the last track




Shayne Cafferata wrote:
> i'm going to set up my h4 in a field today and record the insects. it's 
> a little breezy and i'll for sure need a windscreen. any home-cooked 
> recipes for something effective? it'll be down in the grass, so it'll be 
> a little protected. i'm thinking of a stretchy sock, but i'll need a 
> framework to keep a dead air space between it and the built-in mics.

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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark francombe wrote:
> Bare in mind the caveats, Im looking for very specific functionality, 
> but I think that my reviews were really all about overall impressions 
> rather than detailed analysis.
> Hope some of you find it useful.
That was informative, thanks for the research.

For what it's worth,   I'm doing a television taping of my Dayglo Orange 
Plastic show this coming weekend
(three studio cameras and two hand held HD cameras)

In that show there will be three sources of visuals all related to live 
looping:

1)  Tim Thompson will using his Loopy Cam which is a real time Video 
Looping Camera that allows for very sophisticated
real time control of up to 8 video loops that the operator is in control 
of creating.     Regrettably,  it does not have
real time synchronization,  but anyone familiar with live looping can 
run it and it looks amazing (ask the people who saw it
projected at the last looping festival

2)  David Tristram will be use his innovative Real Time Graphics Looping 
software (lol,  he refuses to name it) that he used
two nights ago in my 'warmup' performance.   It is really beautiful and 
it is so stark looking that it looks fantastic projected
ONTO a performer.      I did a piece blowing bubbles and he immediately 
started using a plethora of self create small circles
that match the performance perfectly and then used me as the 
screen......very cool.    I'll post a couple of examples of that
at youtube in the next couple of days and let you all know about it.

3) I'll be shooting my own videos that I've created (shown first, for 
those who saw it, at the 1st Rome Live Looping Festival)
which were created in Sony Vegas which treats video exactly as Sony Acid 
does...........with all of the stretching algorithms
and ability to syncrhonize.

4)  Unfortunately, do to logistics,  I won't be able to show off the 
Video Projection Tracking system that I invented (developed by
Bill Putnam and programmed by Phoenix Tows) that allows one to project 
video onto a performer that tracks their movement.
It's a very hip system but needs to be used with fairly specific venue 
requirements (you have to be 17 feet from the projection
source so you have to either have a center isle or the ability to 
project from the roof of a venue)

All three of these systems have the potential to be used by other 
people.  I'd be more than happy to connect anyone
to these artists to inquire about that possibility.  I don't guarantee 
it but I think it's a definite possibility.
I'm already beginning to use the Loopy Cam with my assistant Maha 
Taitano running it in my life shows.

*****************
*****************

I am fascinated by the idea of creating live video looping that can 
synchronize with current paradigms of live looping audio.
There is not currently a solution that does this effectively or the way 
I think would be coolest to manifest.

Soooo,   I am working with Bill Putnam (Universal Audio) and a brilliant 
young CCRMA grad student, Chris Carlson
investigating these possibilities.   This will take some time even if we 
achieve a solution but we're on it.

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I have a GK mic here but can't find any GK Cable. Where do you get a
GK Cable? Does it come with the GK mic or with the GR-55?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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Do you mean the Roland GK Pickup? I actually have several that I do not nee=
d but they are at my Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania (USA) location - where I will=
 be on Friday. If you still have a need for the cable, let me know. Don't k=
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n the Roland GK Pickup? I actually have several that I do not need but they=
 are at my Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania (USA) location - where I will be on Fri=
day. If you still have a need for the cable, let me know. Don't know bout s=
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Mark,
If your scheme chops are up for it, you should have a look at
impromptu.  Even though it's purpose made for live coding, there's
nothing that prevents someone from coding in advance and loading the
program at the gig...  It allows you to mess directly with opengl
objects and create some pretty colours and shapes that change with the
beat.  You could send the audio reference from Live to a certain
channel on your audio device and have Impromtu read the data from that
channel.  A steeper learning curve, but there are some musical payoffs
as well (Impromptu can send/receive MIDI or OSC and host AU).

the software: http://impromptu.moso.com.au/

some graphics tutorials:
http://homepage.mac.com/digego/video_tutorial_one.mov
http://vimeo.com/4192785

demos
http://vimeo.com/2735394
http://vimeo.com/2502546
http://vimeo.com/2433303

Sylvain




On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 7:52 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> Quite often it occurs on LD that there is a post about creating live visuals
> to our music. I have always been interested in this, and have always tried
> to have a visual element to what I do. Recently I have become involved in a
> new art/music project, basically a looping band, with sensors and dancers
> and guest speakers and what-not... where we intend on creating a visual
> element Live as well. I do not want to use pr-made video loops, and although
> having a permanent visual member on the band is an exiting option, we are
> not investigating that just yet.
> To that end, I spent this weekend doing a bit of research on VJ programs,
> and thought Id post my initail finding in my website... HERE!
>
> http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?p=1449
>
> Bare in mind the caveats, Im looking for very specific functionality, but I
> think that my reviews were really all about overall impressions rather than
> detailed analysis.
> Hope some of you find it useful... its been quite an eye-opener for me, I'm
> even considering making something related, an MA degree project.
>
> --
> Mark Francombe
> www.markfrancombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no
> twitter @markfrancombe
>

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This might be of interest to some of you:
http://www.smule.com/madpad

Sylvain

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I am looking to loop my instrument rig - SM57>pedal board>looper>amp and
vocals.  I use two tracks...one for vocals, and one for my instrumentation
(harmonica, beatboxing, POG2 to sing bass lines).

Currently I am using the looper on my Line6 M13, but I'd like a dedicated
looper.  I want to use if for live solo performances and have the ability to
turn on/off overdubs/loops on the fly.

I typically record rhythm parts first, like the bass or beatboxing, and then
add chords with harmonica over the top.  I am to the point where creating
choruses and bridges would be of value.

Both the Rang and 50 seem to offer up what I need.  I guess I am looking for
ease of use, quality of sound, and ability to be used live...

Thanks!
----------
Mike Fugazzi
vocals/harmonica
http://www.mikefugazzi.com
Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/MikeFugazziMusic>
Quicksilver Custom Harmonicas
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I am looking to loop my instrument rig - SM57&gt;pedal board&gt;looper&gt;a=
mp and vocals.=A0 I use two tracks...one for vocals, and one for my instrum=
entation (harmonica, beatboxing, POG2 to sing bass lines).<br><br>Currently=
 I am using the looper on my Line6 M13, but I&#39;d like a dedicated looper=
.=A0 I want to use if for live solo performances and have the ability to tu=
rn on/off overdubs/loops on the fly.<br>

<br>I typically record rhythm parts first, like the bass or beatboxing, and=
 then add chords with harmonica over the top.=A0 I am to the point where cr=
eating choruses and bridges would be of value.<br><br>Both the Rang and 50 =
seem to offer up what I need.=A0 I guess I am looking for ease of use, qual=
ity of sound, and ability to be used live...<br>

<br>Thanks!<br clear=3D"all">----------<br>Mike Fugazzi<br>vocals/harmonica=
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rget=3D"_blank">Facebook</a><br>

<a href=3D"http://www.mikefugazzi.com/fr_customharmonicas.cfm" target=3D"_b=
lank">Quicksilver Custom Harmonicas </a><br><br>

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Does anyone here like the RC-50?
And BTW, where's my LP-2?
Respectfully and sincerely,
Gnarly

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On 7 Sep 2011, at 08:22, andy butler wrote:

> hi Mark,
> there's 3 EDP error messages that I've seen,
> something like
>=20
> nIdI

just try to type MIDI on a 7 seg display...
probably a buffer overflow. you send to much if you see that

> dead=20

gee, I never realized it could be read like this!
it sais dE Ad for defragment address
thats hard to explain. we need to defragment the loop if there is not an =
entire older loop to jump back too. and in rare cases we do not have the =
addresses to do so.
short:=20
it happens if you do a lot of retrigger and reverse and such, especially =
when long loops in little memory.

> and one really rare one which is some kind of 'smiley face',
> (which I only saw once, may have been when trying sysex stuff)

hehee, nope, does not need sysex at all
we were lazy to complete a big table for the display,=20
because Eric had created a little program to compose the main part, but =
after the years we could not find that...
its a range that is hardly ever used, so we placed the face instead
and we were right to do so, because hardly anybody has seen the face
I think Claude Voit was involved... and thought we should keep it a =
secret...=20
>=20
>=20
> So I guess what your mate has is nIdI , which kind of indicates Midi =
error.
>=20
> 'nIdI' and 'dead' used to appear quite regularly in the days
> of testing loop4, but these days I only occasionally get
> nIdI when I boot up the 2 edps in some haphazard way.
>=20
> The edp will always hang if when an error is displayed.
>=20
> I just tried to get nIdI by randomly powering on/off the 2 edps,
> ..but I only see it very briefly sometimes as a machine is switched =
off.
>=20
> So, only 2 things to suggest.
>=20
> 1) maybe some interruption in the power is causing this, perhaps an =
internal
>  fault of the edp, perhaps not.
> 2) do a factory reset (boot edp while holding param button)
>=20
> a
>=20
> mark francombe wrote:
>> My band mate has trouble with his EDP, it keeps showing an error =
message nid (or NId probably) and then the machine hangs:
>> Anyone know what that is? I checked the manual and its not there, =
could it just be some LED junk as the machine crashes? I haven't checked =
it myself, so maybe he has some weird midi parameters set, although I =
don't know what they might be...
>> Anybody might think that Im having EDP woes currently, but that is =
not the case, its just that Im experiencing some normal technical =
tweaking issues such as befals a new and exiting, but rather geeky, new =
band project... when we are all fully tweaked, then we will totally rip =
it up!
>> M
>> --=20
>> /_Mark Francombe_/
>> www.markfrancombe.com <http://www.markfrancombe.com/>
>> www.ordoabkhao.com <http://www.ordoabkhao.com/>
>> http://vimeo.com/user825094
>> http://www.looop.no <http://www.looop.no/>
>> twitter @markfrancombe
>=20

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LOL Clayton,
so the looping community is split in Roland users and the others?
well, almost every religion gets a schism after a while...
(looking it up, I just realized that the original word schisma is not =
used for religion but for pitch: "the difference between 8 justly tuned =
perfect fifths plus a justly tuned major third and 5 octaves;"

anyway, sorry, Mike
your criteria are important but we can think of a more important here:

do you want to recreate "normal" musical with less musicians
or=20
do you want to experience new music, inspirations in a different state =
of mind that happens through a growing seduction to go deeper and deeper =
into the loop and away from what you *thought* you wanted to do?

did I get that right?

On 12 Sep 2011, at 13:16, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote:

> Does anyone here like the RC-50?
> And BTW, where's my LP-2?
> Respectfully and sincerely,
> Gnarly
>=20

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hehe, I love your emotions, Rick!
and I like to be a little dry to tease:

On 5 Sep 2011, at 19:42, Rick Walker wrote:
> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark francombe wrote:
>>=20
>> And finally, I just f***ing love the internet, this thread proves it.=20=

> I love it too. =20

me too

>   This whole amazing group of innovative musicians would never have =
existed without the Internet and Kim's decision to start this list.

somebody else would have started it!
maybe through some other channel that would have come to exist, but did =
not because of the internet :-)
>=20
> I frequently say a prayer of gratitude that you all exist!    You are =
my family away from home.

yes... what a dear family!
>=20
> love, Rick
>=20

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Lol!  I am 90% sold on the Boomerang III.  Does that mean I am going to get
kicked off the list?

Sent from my phone,

Mike
On Sep 12, 2011 4:40 PM, "Matthias Grob" <matilists@gmail.com> wrote:
> LOL Clayton,
> so the looping community is split in Roland users and the others?
> well, almost every religion gets a schism after a while...
> (looking it up, I just realized that the original word schisma is not used
for religion but for pitch: "the difference between 8 justly tuned perfect
fifths plus a justly tuned major third and 5 octaves;"
>
> anyway, sorry, Mike
> your criteria are important but we can think of a more important here:
>
> do you want to recreate "normal" musical with less musicians
> or
> do you want to experience new music, inspirations in a different state of
mind that happens through a growing seduction to go deeper and deeper into
the loop and away from what you *thought* you wanted to do?
>
> did I get that right?
>
> On 12 Sep 2011, at 13:16, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote:
>
>> Does anyone here like the RC-50?
>> And BTW, where's my LP-2?
>> Respectfully and sincerely,
>> Gnarly
>>
>

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<p>Lol!=A0 I am 90% sold on the Boomerang III.=A0 Does that mean I am going=
 to get kicked off the list?</p>
<p>Sent from my phone,</p>
<p>Mike</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep 12, 2011 4:40 PM, &quot;Matthias Grob&quo=
t; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:matilists@gmail.com">matilists@gmail.com</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br type=3D"attribution">&gt; LOL Clayton,<br>&gt; so the looping comm=
unity is split in Roland users and the others?<br>
&gt; well, almost every religion gets a schism after a while...<br>&gt; (lo=
oking it up, I just realized that the original word schisma is not used for=
 religion but for pitch: &quot;the difference between 8 justly tuned perfec=
t fifths plus a justly tuned major third and 5 octaves;&quot;<br>
&gt; <br>&gt; anyway, sorry, Mike<br>&gt; your criteria are important but w=
e can think of a more important here:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; do you want to recre=
ate &quot;normal&quot; musical with less musicians<br>&gt; or <br>&gt; do y=
ou want to experience new music, inspirations in a different state of mind =
that happens through a growing seduction to go deeper and deeper into the l=
oop and away from what you *thought* you wanted to do?<br>
&gt; <br>&gt; did I get that right?<br>&gt; <br>&gt; On 12 Sep 2011, at 13:=
16, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote:<br>&gt; <br>&gt;&gt; Does anyone here like =
the RC-50?<br>&gt;&gt; And BTW, where&#39;s my LP-2?<br>&gt;&gt; Respectful=
ly and sincerely,<br>
&gt;&gt; Gnarly<br>&gt;&gt; <br>&gt; <br></div>

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I don't think anyone gets kicked off this list-
I had an RC-20, I liked it a lot for what it was, but don't think I would
like the RC-50-the footprint is too big, and it doesn't have control of the
decay of the loop, something that gets referred to as "feedback" a lot . . .
not the same feedback that harmonica players are eager to avoid.
I currently am using a Boomerang III and like it, the latest version of the
software has footpedal control of the feedback--and the footprint is a good
size.
It would be good for your purposes, as it has up to four separate but
synchronized loops, so you could create a two measure percussion loop and
then immediately record on top of that, without printing to that track--they
are discrete loops.
Mike Stevens was using the Echoplex Digital Pro, and at one time owned a
Looperlative, the LP-1--dunno if he is still looping. I like the Echoplex,
but it's rack mounted, so it needs a separate controller.
I was looping harp at my gig last night, Fireball into a 'Rang . . .
G

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Hello

Hope you get this on time, Sorry I didn't inform you about my trip to Spain for a program,am presently in Spain and am having some difficulties here, it's so hard for me to believe this happened to me, i was robbed on my way to the hotel. Cash and cell-phone was taken from me also.  
 
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hey andy, thanks for the reply. i just ended up putting the h4 in a furry 
touque. the recording turned out great! i got mostly a cricket chorus, 
trains(about a half mile south) and transcanada highway noise(about a half 
mile north), and a dog that came along snuffling and snurfing(glad he didn't 
decide it was a suitable chew toy!). anyway about 2 hours worth. i was 
mainly looking for some background ambience to play over. i think it'll work 
fine. just tune to the crickets or highway drone and go. or not...

amazingly beautiful recording of yours btw!

check out the dead cat covers for the h4. think i'll make one.

cheers,
shayne

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> From experience with the H2, the foam windshield supplied is pretty good. 
> (It's just a regular cheap mic windshield if
> you didn't get anything with the H4) Plus getting the mic in a sheltered 
> position, or even shielding it with your body can help a lot.
>
> Rather than socks, stockings or tights are better acoustically
> if you want to build something more elaborate.
>
> What insects are you after?
>
> andy
> ps
> http://www.ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=music&albumid=35
> mine's the last track
>
>
>
>
> Shayne Cafferata wrote:
>> i'm going to set up my h4 in a field today and record the insects. it's a 
>> little breezy and i'll for sure need a windscreen. any home-cooked 
>> recipes for something effective? it'll be down in the grass, so it'll be 
>> a little protected. i'm thinking of a stretchy sock, but i'll need a 
>> framework to keep a dead air space between it and the built-in mics.
> 

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Another interface to your GR-55:

http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/09/rolands-gr-55-guitar-synth-powers-unlocked-with-touchosc-and-ipad/

Best,

Dennis

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On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:
> Another interface to your GR-55:
> http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/09/rolands-gr-55-guitar-synth-powers-unlocked-with-touchosc-and-ipad/

Wow, that's neat! Bad luck I don't have an iPad ;-)  But I won't have
much time for with sitting down the GR-55 until in December anyway
(making an album on a deadline). And, hm... if I had the money for an
iPad I think it would serve my music creating better to pour that
dough at the Omnisphere 1.5. Anyway, it feels good knowing there are
more fun stuff along the line :-)

Per

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That's okay, Per =97=A0I have an iPad but no GR-55!

:P

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> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> w=
rote:
>> Another interface to your GR-55:
>> http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/09/rolands-gr-55-guitar-synth-powers-=
unlocked-with-touchosc-and-ipad/
>
> Wow, that's neat! Bad luck I don't have an iPad ;-) =A0But I won't have
> much time for with sitting down the GR-55 until in December anyway
> (making an album on a deadline). And, hm... if I had the money for an
> iPad I think it would serve my music creating better to pour that
> dough at the Omnisphere 1.5. Anyway, it feels good knowing there are
> more fun stuff along the line :-)
>
> Per
>
>

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Dear Loopers,

My name is Ljova and I'm a musician based in NY.

This is my first post, and I apologize that it's tech support related. :)

I'm trying to make Mobius work with Ableton, and seem to have it all set up
right, but somehow I'm not getting to hear any sound.
I'm able to record, and I see the waveform, but i don't hear anything,
whether through built-in output, or via my audio interface.
is there something I'm missing?

the volume on my audio interface is cranked, and I can hear things in other
Ableton files, just not this one for some reason..
So it's not the interface, or the volume, but some sort of input..
see the setup here:
http://Ljova.com/ljova-ableton-mobius.jpg<http://ljova.com/ljova-ableton-mobius.jpg>

would you have any thoughts?

thank you so much,

Ljova

-- 
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Dear Loopers,<br><br>My name is Ljova and I&#39;m a musician based in NY.<b=
r><br>This is my first post, and I apologize that it&#39;s tech support rel=
ated. :)<br><br>I&#39;m
 trying to make Mobius work with Ableton, and seem to have it all set up
 right, but somehow I&#39;m not getting to hear any sound.<br>
I&#39;m able to record, and I see the waveform, but i don&#39;t hear anythi=
ng,=20
whether through built-in output, or via my audio interface. <br>
is there something I&#39;m missing?<br><br>the volume on my audio interface=
 is cranked, and I can hear things in other <span>Ableton</span> files, jus=
t not this one for some reason..<br>So it&#39;s not the interface, or the v=
olume, but some sort of input..<br>


see the setup here: <a href=3D"http://ljova.com/ljova-ableton-mobius.jpg" t=
arget=3D"_blank">http://Ljova.com/ljova-ableton-mobius.jpg</a><br><br>would=
 you have any thoughts?<br><br>thank you so much,<br><br>Ljova<br><font col=
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_*Schedule of Events*_
               Individual concert performers schedules TBA


WEDNESDAY October 12th      7:30 p.m.
_/*"Best of the Y2KX+1 LOOP FESTIVAL"*/_
ANNO DOMINI GALLERY     366 South 1st Street, San Jose California
$5 (no advanced tickets)


*FRIDAY*  October 14th **8 P.M. - Midnight
_/*MAIN FESTIVAL   Opening Night*/_
PEARL ALLEY STUDIOS       120 Pearl Alley,  Santa Cruz

*SATURDAY* October 15th 12 noon - 7:30 _/*Main Festival*/_
*
SATURDAY * October 15th   9 - Midnight
*/_HEADLINERS CONCERT:     2nd Percussion Live Looping Festival_/*
featuring:
Andrea Centazzo (Italy)
Nat Grant (Australia)
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with
Rick Walker (USA)  (non-headliner)

*SUNDAY *October 16th**_/*Main Festival*/_
Noon -  7:00
Dinner Break 7:30-9:00
  9:00 - Midnight

Admission to Santa Cruz Festival is $15 no advanced tickets   All Ages 
Welcome!
                                                   No One Turned Away 
For Lack Of Funds

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      ANNO DOMINI GALLERY&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 366 South 1st Street, San Jose
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      Nat Grant (Australia)<br>
      Matt Davignon (USA) <br>
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      <b>SUNDAY </b>October 16th<b>&nbsp; </b></font><u><i><b><font
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On Sep 13, 2011, at 11:27 AM, Per Boysen wrote:

> if I had the money for an
> iPad I think it would serve my music creating better to pour that
> dough at the Omnisphere 1.5.


Actually I found the iPad functionality for the Omnisphere to be one  
of the most interesting aspects of the Omnisphere 1.5 demo video.


regards

BobC

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0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; ">if I had the =
money for an<br>iPad I think it would serve my music creating better to =
pour that<br>dough at the Omnisphere =
1.5.</span></blockquote><br></div><br><div>Actually I found the iPad =
functionality for the Omnisphere to be one of the most interesting =
aspects of the&nbsp;Omnisphere 1.5&nbsp;demo =
video.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>regards</div><div><br></div=
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On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:36 PM, RP Collier <skeptikalist@gmail.com> wrote=
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> most interesting aspects of the=C2=A0Omnisphere 1.5=C2=A0demo video.

Yes, I agree.... so after picking up Omni you really can't escape the
iPad much longer. Myself I'm especially salivating over the Omni's
arpeggiators. It's very creative that you can set up eight patches and
each one with its own synced arpeggiator.

Per

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http://thomosexual.tumblr.com/post/10128490850/jonny-greenwood-electric-cou=
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Cool guitar loops/delays?

Kevin

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Almost got it right DK! :)

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>From the original text by Claude Voit

 

DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE OR YOUR COMPUTER WILL SHOW YOU VERY UNPOLITE
MESSAGES FROM ALL AROUND THE WORLD

 

                               

1-  go to your browser preferences and set you Email client to send plain
text (NO HTML) with No signature file

 

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then copy (ctrl+C)

 

5-  place cursor in Subject of the message

 

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Paste =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>7-&nbsp; click =
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face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
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face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Bye =
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> Date: Tue=2C 13 Sep 2011 16:38:10 -0700
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i think i see the problem

mobius is set up by default to pass no audio through, as it's assumed
you're running it in parallel

you either need to monitor your direct signal directly from your
interface, or pass it through via a send to the master out

here's a pic of how i have mine set up. the audio from each mobius
channel is routed to the sends only, so that i can pass it to a bus
which goes directly out, or to another bus that has plugins on it

http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/misc/mobiusableton.jpg

hope that helps - if not, i'll try to provide a more detailed
step-by-step description

sim

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> Dear Loopers,
>

> I'm trying to make Mobius work with Ableton, and seem to have it all set up
> right, but somehow I'm not getting to hear any sound.

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Always enjoyed Metheny's performance of it.

This one is great too.

Reich is an important composer.


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> =
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>=20
> Cool guitar loops/delays?
>=20
> Kevin
>=20
> --=20
> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have =
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> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all =
trouble.
>=20
> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>=20
> Sound and Vision:  http://www.minds-eye.org
> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos

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Subject: ableton live users - nice little trick
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just stumbled across this while perusing some clips

if, like me, you like to use fx on your loops, especially to create
rhythms from ambient drones etc, then here's a fun thing to try...

set up an audio track and drop some drum loops into it
set up another audio track and drop the vocoder in as an effect. for
audio in, select your drum track
send the audio from the drum track to the vocoder track (not sure if
you have do do this, you may just be able to turn off monitoring)
in the vocoder, set the input to external and select the track that's
playing your loop audio
now the drum track with "rhythmatise" your loop
if you can mute the original loop audio, so you can just hear the
vocoder audio, all the better

very nice sounds available, especially if you play with the formant
and the depth controls and make sure you set it to "L/R", not "stereo"
for panning fun
also good, because you can drop lots of different drum loops in on the
same track and have lots of different rhythms available
add synced delays,sweeping filters etc after the vocoder for more interest

cheers!

sim

more experienced ableton users probably discovered this years ago, but
there you go....

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could it be because i'm inputting a mono instrument?
On September 14, 2011, at 2:25 PM, Simeon Harris wrote:

> i'm not sure - i don't know why your audio in says "left out" on all
> the mobius channels. it should say 3/4 Mobius, 5/6 Mobius etc etc...
>=20
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin <ljova@ljova.com> =
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>> Sim, thank you!
>>=20
>> I think I've duplicated your setup, but still no luck here.
>> take a look if you can -- what is wrong here?
>>=20
>> warmly,
>> Ljova
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>> --
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>>=20
>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 5:26 AM, Simeon Harris
>> <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> i think i see the problem
>>>=20
>>> mobius is set up by default to pass no audio through, as it's =
assumed
>>> you're running it in parallel
>>>=20
>>> you either need to monitor your direct signal directly from your
>>> interface, or pass it through via a send to the master out
>>>=20
>>> here's a pic of how i have mine set up. the audio from each mobius
>>> channel is routed to the sends only, so that i can pass it to a bus
>>> which goes directly out, or to another bus that has plugins on it
>>>=20
>>> http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/misc/mobiusableton.jpg
>>>=20
>>> hope that helps - if not, i'll try to provide a more detailed
>>> step-by-step description
>>>=20
>>> sim
>>>=20
>>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin =
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>>> wrote:
>>>> Dear Loopers,
>>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>> I'm trying to make Mobius work with Ableton, and seem to have it =
all set
>>>> up
>>>> right, but somehow I'm not getting to hear any sound.
>>>=20
>>=20
>>=20

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also, I should ask -- which track(s) should be armed for recording?

thank you! :)

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also, I should ask -- which track(s) should be armed for recording?<br><br>thank you! :)<br>

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i don't think inputting a mono instrument would make any difference.
the audio from mobius needs to be sent to the live channels, so you
should see the mobius channels listed when you drop down the menu in
the inout section on each live channel

this may be a mobius issue, but i don't have the time right now to
figure it out - can anybody else help Lev please?

sim

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Lev,

Check that the Live tracks fetching input from Mobius is set to
"Monitor = In" (not "Auto" or "Off").

Greetings from Sweden

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yep, they're all set to "IN"...
On September 14, 2011, at 2:38 PM, Per Boysen wrote:

> Lev,
> 
> Check that the Live tracks fetching input from Mobius is set to
> "Monitor = In" (not "Auto" or "Off").
> 
> Greetings from Sweden
> 
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
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> www.looproom.com internet music hub
> 

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Send levels turned up? Not displayed in your pic....

Sent from my iPod

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> yep, they're all set to "IN"...
> On September 14, 2011, at 2:38 PM, Per Boysen wrote:
> 
>> Lev,
>> 
>> Check that the Live tracks fetching input from Mobius is set to
>> "Monitor = In" (not "Auto" or "Off").
>> 
>> Greetings from Sweden
>> 
>> Per Boysen
>> www.boysen.se
>> www.perboysen.com
>> www.looproom.com internet music hub
>> 
> 

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weird - I started back from the beginning, rewriting the template from =
scratch, and now it works, Left/Out and all.

thank you! :)

On September 14, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Simeon Harris wrote:

> Send levels turned up? Not displayed in your pic....
>=20
> Sent from my iPod
>=20
> On 14 Sep 2011, at 19:40, Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin <ljova@ljova.com> wrote:
>=20
>> yep, they're all set to "IN"...
>> On September 14, 2011, at 2:38 PM, Per Boysen wrote:
>>=20
>>> Lev,
>>>=20
>>> Check that the Live tracks fetching input from Mobius is set to
>>> "Monitor =3D In" (not "Auto" or "Off").
>>>=20
>>> Greetings from Sweden
>>>=20
>>> Per Boysen
>>> www.boysen.se
>>> www.perboysen.com
>>> www.looproom.com internet music hub
>>>=20
>>=20
>=20

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Cool!

Sent from my iPod

On 14 Sep 2011, at 20:36, Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin <ljova@ljova.com> wrote:

> weird - I started back from the beginning, rewriting the template from scr=
atch, and now it works, Left/Out and all.
>=20
> thank you! :)
>=20
> On September 14, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Simeon Harris wrote:
>=20
>> Send levels turned up? Not displayed in your pic....
>>=20
>> Sent from my iPod
>>=20
>> On 14 Sep 2011, at 19:40, Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin <ljova@ljova.com> wrote:
>>=20
>>> yep, they're all set to "IN"...
>>> On September 14, 2011, at 2:38 PM, Per Boysen wrote:
>>>=20
>>>> Lev,
>>>>=20
>>>> Check that the Live tracks fetching input from Mobius is set to
>>>> "Monitor =3D In" (not "Auto" or "Off").
>>>>=20
>>>> Greetings from Sweden
>>>>=20
>>>> Per Boysen
>>>> www.boysen.se
>>>> www.perboysen.com
>>>> www.looproom.com internet music hub
>>>>=20
>>>=20
>>=20
>=20

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This is the most helpful bunch of audio geeks.  I just love this list.

d
On Sep 14, 2011, at 12:57 PM, Simeon Harris wrote:

> Cool!
> 
> Sent from my iPod
> 
> On 14 Sep 2011, at 20:36, Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin <ljova@ljova.com> wrote:
> 
>> weird - I started back from the beginning, rewriting the template from scratch, and now it works, Left/Out and all.
>> 
>> thank you! :)
>> 
>> On September 14, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Simeon Harris wrote:
>> 
>>> Send levels turned up? Not displayed in your pic....
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPod
>>> 
>>> On 14 Sep 2011, at 19:40, Lev 'Ljova' Zhurbin <ljova@ljova.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> yep, they're all set to "IN"...
>>>> On September 14, 2011, at 2:38 PM, Per Boysen wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Lev,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Check that the Live tracks fetching input from Mobius is set to
>>>>> "Monitor = In" (not "Auto" or "Off").
>>>>> 
>>>>> Greetings from Sweden
>>>>> 
>>>>> Per Boysen
>>>>> www.boysen.se
>>>>> www.perboysen.com
>>>>> www.looproom.com internet music hub
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 

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Hi folks,

I'll be doing video improvisations on Sept. 16 at 119 Gallery (my 
favorite performance space) as part of the event 
<http://www.facebook.com/n/?event.php&eid=169606423115056&mid=4c86b46G30a99f3fG772c0f4G7&bcode=aazQojGE&n_m=emile%40foryourhead.com>Margolis 
Hamilton Tobenfeld + Grau Garten &more.

Margolis Hamilton Tobenfeld: [NY, Boston]
Al Margolis - laptop, violin
Tom Hamilton - analog synths
dr T - live video mix
+
Rick Breault - laptop [Lowell]
Elaine Wood - live video mix
+
Grau Garten: [ME, NH, MA]
Josh Baker - bicycle wheel
Marc Bisson - guitar, objects
Steve Norton - reeds, percussion, celesta
with
Greg Kowalski - live video
+
Kevin Frenette Group: [Boston]
Kevin Frenette - guitar
James Rohr - Fender Rhodes
Curt Newton - drums
with
Walter Wright - live video

Produced by Walter artguy@119gallery.org

Hope some of you can make it.

119 Chelmsford St
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spot on post, Simeon
I'm close to having my two PC studios back online (well, artistically 
online as I'm not going
to ever connect them to the internet) so I can try this trick.

There is an amazing noise artist called  THRONES
who was the bassist with the Melvyn's and High on Fire.

he tours around incessantly,  in his band doing noise shows using only
a bass guitar, huge multiple amplifier setups (Stanosaur take notice,  
he's your
soulmate on bass) and a drum machine.

He also uses a Vocoder to merely manipulate the overtones and feedback 
he generates from
his amplifiers and effects pedals.

He does a little bit of looping but he makes an AMAZING sound.

check him out for unusual uses of VOCODING

What other uses do people have of this cool technology?
I"m currently reading the fascinating history of Vocoding (invented to
for encryption purposes for World War 2 ---- every American president has
had a vocoder in the Oval Office).

I'm in love with it lately.

yours,  Rick Walker

n 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:
> .........just stumbled across this while perusing some clips
>
> ...........
> set up an audio track and drop some drum loops into it
> set up another audio track and drop the vocoder in as an effect. for
> audio in, select your drum track
> send the audio from the drum track to the vocoder track.........

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Sent from my (advertisement removed)

On 15 Sep 2011, at 07:10, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote

> I"m currently reading the fascinating history of Vocoding (invented to
> for encryption purposes for World War 2 ---- every American president has
> had a vocoder in the Oval Office).

are you reading "how to wreck a nice beach" ?

I have also been a big fan if vocoders for years and used to own the
amazing. VC01.

i almost never use ut In voice however, but In reverse , getting
melodic content out if non melodic sounds.

if i remember correctly My mulch patch at Y2KX largely made use of My
guitar sounds that were a soft vocoded guitar part, together with a
(never actually heard) rytym /noise part, a click becomes a Boom, and
a titkki tacka becomes a Kazzzzowarrr Brakkkaka!!!

(please excuse the technical jargon)

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I spent an hour messing with it last night and it's an absolute goldmine!!

The sheer number of textures and variations available from a single loop is a=
stonishing. And it seems the weirder the modifier the better! If anyone is i=
nterested, I'd be happy to post some audio examples, but if you have the tim=
e, I would urge you to have a go, it's amazing fun!

Sent from my iPoo

On 15 Sep 2011, at 07:03, mark francombe <markfrancombe@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sent from my (advertisement removed)
>=20
> On 15 Sep 2011, at 07:10, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote
>=20
>> I"m currently reading the fascinating history of Vocoding (invented to
>> for encryption purposes for World War 2 ---- every American president has=

>> had a vocoder in the Oval Office).
>=20
> are you reading "how to wreck a nice beach" ?
>=20
> I have also been a big fan if vocoders for years and used to own the
> amazing. VC01.
>=20
> i almost never use ut In voice however, but In reverse , getting
> melodic content out if non melodic sounds.
>=20
> if i remember correctly My mulch patch at Y2KX largely made use of My
> guitar sounds that were a soft vocoded guitar part, together with a
> (never actually heard) rytym /noise part, a click becomes a Boom, and
> a titkki tacka becomes a Kazzzzowarrr Brakkkaka!!!
>=20
> (please excuse the technical jargon)
>=20

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> 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:
>>vocoder

Yes, that's a fun trick. I've been doing it a lot in Logic; works kind
of the same. Can apply the vocalization of any source to any target.
If using drums as source you get that chopping up effect. If using
your instrument input signal you "play" also the target like for
example having big chords backing up your single note paying. Or why
not slap an arpeggiator on the voclizer driver for high speed beeps
and boops ;-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub

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lol.  yes,  he is.  over in Krakow doing a big celebration right now.
 Playing Double Sextet this evening! Cheers, Ted. I heard tell of Steve at
the side of the stage really enjoying Johnny's performance.  I missed it by
one day, am kicking myself.  Will also miss the big Aphex Twin performance
on Saturday, ugh.

T.

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:50 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net>w=
rote:

> Always enjoyed Metheny's performance of it.
>
> This one is great too.
>
> Reich is an important composer.
>
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> On Sep 13, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote:
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lol. =A0yes, =A0he is. =A0over in Krakow doing a big celebration right now.=
 =A0Playing Double Sextet this evening! Cheers, Ted. I heard tell of Steve =
at the side of the stage really enjoying Johnny&#39;s performance. =A0I mis=
sed it by one day, am kicking myself. =A0Will also miss the big Aphex Twin =
performance on Saturday, ugh.=A0<div>

<br></div><div>T.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at=
 10:50 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tedkilli=
an@charter.net">tedkillian@charter.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote=
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d;padding-left:1ex;">

Always enjoyed Metheny&#39;s performance of it.<br>
<br>
This one is great too.<br>
<br>
Reich is an important composer.<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
On Sep 13, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote:<br>
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&gt; <a href=3D"http://thomosexual.tumblr.com/post/10128490850/jonny-greenw=
ood-electric-counterpoint-written" target=3D"_blank">http://thomosexual.tum=
blr.com/post/10128490850/jonny-greenwood-electric-counterpoint-written</a><=
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&gt;<br>
&gt; Cool guitar loops/delays?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Kevin<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have =
a<br>
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ble.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Sound and Vision: =A0<a href=3D"http://www.minds-eye.org" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://www.minds-eye.org</a><br>
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<br><div>=95=A0Outerborough, Todd Reynolds&#39; solo double CD is now avail=
able wherever music is sold. <a href=3D"http://innova.mu/artist1.asp?skuID=
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All this talk of vocoding made me check my front room and waddaya  
know, a Roland SVC-350. I gotta get rid of all this dinosaur gear that  
is just taking up space.

On Sep 15, 2011, at 3:03 PM, mark francombe wrote:

> Sent from my (advertisement removed)
>
> On 15 Sep 2011, at 07:10, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote
>
>> I"m currently reading the fascinating history of Vocoding (invented  
>> to
>> for encryption purposes for World War 2 ---- every American  
>> president has
>> had a vocoder in the Oval Office).
>
> are you reading "how to wreck a nice beach" ?
>
> I have also been a big fan if vocoders for years and used to own the
> amazing. VC01.
>
> i almost never use ut In voice however, but In reverse , getting
> melodic content out if non melodic sounds.
>
> if i remember correctly My mulch patch at Y2KX largely made use of My
> guitar sounds that were a soft vocoded guitar part, together with a
> (never actually heard) rytym /noise part, a click becomes a Boom, and
> a titkki tacka becomes a Kazzzzowarrr Brakkkaka!!!
>
> (please excuse the technical jargon)
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On Sep 15, 2011, at 4:11 PM, Simeon Harris wrote:

>> a titkki tacka becomes a Kazzzzowarrr Brakkkaka!!!


That's some nice onomatopoeia there. Can we loop that?

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> On Sep 15, 2011, at 4:11 PM, Simeon Harris wrote:
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> a titkki tacka becomes a Kazzzzowarrr Brakkkaka!!!

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Ed Durbrow <edurbrow@sea.plala.or.jp> wrote:
> That's some nice onomatopoeia there. Can we loop that?


Every once in a while great poetry finds an outlet at Loopers-Delight.

Big Brakkkakas to you all

Per

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Benoit Ruelle wrote:
>     * Three stereo tracks with dedicated footswitches and controls for each
>     * Dedicated fader per track
>     * Expression pedal for effects control in real time
>     * Up to three hours of internal recording and 99 onboard memories
>     * 16 onboard effects optimized for looping
>     * XLR Microphone input with phantom power
>     * USB storage; import/export WAV files
> Not a revolution, rather an evolution.
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> ... and other gear too:
> http://www.rolandconnect.com/
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> Ben


Looks quite nice and complete.

It doesn't seem to allow audio via USB, so those (like me) having everything 
else in a 19" rig will have to run audio cables across the floor.
Would've been nice only needing a bundled MID/+USB cable across the floor.
Anyone seen the manual?  I didn't; maybe my eyes needs a checkup ;)

Also, does it allow extending an already recorded phrase, or whould this be 
done by recording on one of the additional loops?

Though the RC300 is fairly large, I could live with this next to my Rocktron 
All Access (a decently compact almost square footprint controller with three 
rows of PC/CC buttons) plus the two swell pedals.


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I still have my original Roland VP-330 (Vocoder Plus) analog vocoder  
and in excellent condition. (recently had it overhauled. like new  
again. sweet!)  It may be a limited "dinosaur",
but I wouldn't even dream of getting rid of it, ever.  Beautiful  
vintage analogue instrument that still works / sounds great and  
"warm".  Plus, I still love keyboards a lot. I have barely ever used  
it for vocals and have mainly run other instruments thru it. (drum  
machines, sequenced synths, whatever).

Also, the wonderfully cheezy "human voice" and "strings" sections are  
fab and can often mix / blend well with what is being fed thru the  
vocoder, and the  "human voice" and "strings" sections have their own  
mix level controls, along with the separate input level / output mix  
levels controls for the vocoder function. And it also has an Ensemble  
("chorus") effect and a (LFO) Vibrato with depth, delay, and rate  
control. 49 keys. WOOD body! ("organic"!) It doesn't get too much  
more "analogue" than that! :-)

Still no Ableton......yet.  But, that now appears to be on my not so  
distant horizon. Eventually. ($ is the main hang up / delay. Sound  
"familiar"?)
It'll be a welcome addition to 'La Familia Aethyr World".   "The best  
of all possible worlds". -Voltaire :-)

Cheers,

Rev. Fever
Portland,OR
http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever

PS- And yes, "How To Wreck A Nice Beach" is a WONDERFUL book!  I  
pretty much read it cover to cover.  Definitely REVcommended! :-)
I've also heard that there might(?) be an "expanded" paperback  
version coming out in November? (or....?) But, no confirmation of  
that. Yet.


On Sep 15, 2011, at 2:35 AM, Ed Durbrow wrote:

> All this talk of vocoding made me check my front room and waddaya  
> know, a Roland SVC-350. I gotta get rid of all this dinosaur gear  
> that is just taking up space.
>
> On Sep 15, 2011, at 3:03 PM, mark francombe wrote:
>
>> Sent from my (advertisement removed)
>>
>> On 15 Sep 2011, at 07:10, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote
>>
>>> I"m currently reading the fascinating history of Vocoding  
>>> (invented to
>>> for encryption purposes for World War 2 ---- every American  
>>> president has
>>> had a vocoder in the Oval Office).
>>
>> are you reading "how to wreck a nice beach" ?
>>
>> I have also been a big fan if vocoders for years and used to own the
>> amazing. VC01.
>>
>> i almost never use ut In voice however, but In reverse , getting
>> melodic content out if non melodic sounds.
>>
>> if i remember correctly My mulch patch at Y2KX largely made use of My
>> guitar sounds that were a soft vocoded guitar part, together with a
>> (never actually heard) rytym /noise part, a click becomes a Boom, and
>> a titkki tacka becomes a Kazzzzowarrr Brakkkaka!!!
>>
>> (please excuse the technical jargon)
>>
>
>
> Ed Durbrow
> Saitama, Japan
> http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/
> http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/
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I still have my original Roland VP-330 (Vocoder Plus) analog vocoder and =
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instrument that still works / sounds great and "warm". &nbsp;Plus, I =
still love keyboards a lot. I have barely ever used it for vocals and =
have mainly run other instruments thru it. (drum machines, sequenced =
synths, whatever).&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Also, the wonderfully =
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blend well with what is being fed thru the vocoder, and the &nbsp;"human =
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Seems like a mega-RC30 (which I just purchased) except for the 16 effects r=
ather than 5 on the RC30. And 3 stereo tracks rather than the 2 on the RC30=
. I'd bet the prices will be the same as the discontinued=A0RC50 ($499.00 U=
SD). =0A=A0=0AI used the RC30 for the first time yesterday for about an hou=
r and am favorably impressed. Without maximizing gain settings, etc., I was=
 able to generate some nice loops for improvisation background. I usually o=
nly use guitar and percussion so two tracks per loop works out ok for me. I=
=A0like the fact that I can plug my miked guitar amp output right into the =
RC30. I had been using a 'Rang II until recently, btw. I like the fact that=
 I can save my loops for later, further development or just jamming without=
 having to come up with something to play with all the time. To my workflow=
, I think the Boss overdub is more fluid than the 'Rang (I hated the long p=
ress for the overdub which I muffed more often than not - maybe it's my toe=
s). All in all, it's an interesting, fairly full-featured unit for $300. =
=0A=A0=0AAnyway, if the RC300 follows suit like the RC30, it should be a gr=
eat addition to the looping tools universe.=0A=A0=0ARegards, Paul=0A=0AFrom=
: van Sinn <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk>=0ATo: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig=
ht.com" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>=0ASent: Thursday, September 1=
5, 2011 9:32 AM=0ASubject: Re: GEAR alert: new Boss looper RC300 loopstatio=
n ...=0A=0ABenoit Ruelle wrote:=0A>=A0 =A0 * Three stereo tracks with dedic=
ated footswitches and controls for each=0A>=A0 =A0 * Dedicated fader per tr=
ack=0A>=A0 =A0 * Expression pedal for effects control in real time=0A>=A0 =
=A0 * Up to three hours of internal recording and 99 onboard memories=0A>=
=A0 =A0 * 16 onboard effects optimized for looping=0A>=A0 =A0 * XLR Microph=
one input with phantom power=0A>=A0 =A0 * USB storage; import/export WAV fi=
les=0A> Not a revolution, rather an evolution.=0A>=A0 ... and other gear to=
o:=0A> http://www.rolandconnect.com/=0A>=A0 =A0 Ben=0A=0A=0ALooks quite nic=
e and complete.=0A=0AIt doesn't seem to allow audio via USB, so those (like=
 me) having everything else in a 19" rig will have to run audio cables acro=
ss the floor.=0AWould've been nice only needing a bundled MID/+USB cable ac=
ross the floor.=0AAnyone seen the manual?=A0 I didn't; maybe my eyes needs =
a checkup ;)=0A=0AAlso, does it allow extending an already recorded phrase,=
 or whould this be done by recording on one of the additional loops?=0A=0AT=
hough the RC300 is fairly large, I could live with this next to my Rocktron=
 All Access (a decently compact almost square footprint controller with thr=
ee rows of PC/CC buttons) plus the two swell pedals.=0A=0A=0A-- rgds,=0Avan=
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti=
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style=3D"RIGHT: =
auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto">Seems like a mega-RC30 (which I just purc=
hased) except for the 16 effects rather than 5 on the RC30. And 3 stereo tr=
acks rather than the 2 on the RC30. I'd bet the prices will be the same as =
the discontinued&nbsp;RC50 ($499.00 USD). </SPAN></div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto"></SPAN>&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto">I used the RC30 for =
the first time yesterday for about an hour and am favorably impressed. With=
out maximizing gain settings, etc., I was able to generate some nice loops =
for improvisation background. I usually only use guitar and percussion so t=
wo tracks per loop works out ok for me. I&nbsp;like the fact that I can plu=
g my miked guitar amp output right into the RC30. I had been using a 'Rang =
II until recently, btw. I like the fact that I can save my loops for later,=
 further development or just jamming without having to come up with somethi=
ng to play with all the time. To my workflow, I think the Boss overdub is m=
ore fluid than the 'Rang (I hated the long press for the overdub which I mu=
ffed more often than not - maybe it's my toes). All in all, it's an interes=
ting, fairly full-featured unit for $300. <VAR id=3Dyui-ie-cursor></VAR></S=
PAN></div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto"></SPAN>&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto">Anyway, if the RC300=
 follows suit like the RC30, it should be a great addition to the looping t=
ools universe.</SPAN></div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto"></SPAN>&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto">Regards, Paul</SPAN>=
</div>
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</SPAN></B> van Sinn &lt;vansinn@post.cybercity.dk&gt;<BR><B><SPAN style=3D=
"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" &l=
t;Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com&gt;<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:=
 bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, September 15, 2011 9:32 AM<BR><B><SPAN st=
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er RC300 loopstation ...<BR></FONT><BR>Benoit Ruelle wrote:<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &=
nbsp; * Three stereo tracks with dedicated footswitches and controls for ea=
ch<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; * Dedicated fader per track<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; *
 Expression pedal for effects control in real time<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; * U=
p to three hours of internal recording and 99 onboard memories<BR>&gt;&nbsp=
; &nbsp; * 16 onboard effects optimized for looping<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; * =
XLR Microphone input with phantom power<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; * USB storage;=
 import/export WAV files<BR>&gt; Not a revolution, rather an evolution.<BR>=
&gt;&nbsp; ... and other gear too:<BR>&gt; <A href=3D"http://www.rolandconn=
ect.com/" target=3D_blank>http://www.rolandconnect.com/</A><BR>&gt;&nbsp; &=
nbsp; Ben<BR><BR><BR>Looks quite nice and complete.<BR><BR>It doesn't seem =
to allow audio via USB, so those (like me) having everything else in a 19" =
rig will have to run audio cables across the floor.<BR>Would've been nice o=
nly needing a bundled MID/+USB cable across the floor.<BR>Anyone seen the m=
anual?&nbsp; I didn't; maybe my eyes needs a checkup ;)<BR><BR>Also, does i=
t allow extending an already recorded phrase, or whould this be done by
 recording on one of the additional loops?<BR><BR>Though the RC300 is fairl=
y large, I could live with this next to my Rocktron All Access (a decently =
compact almost square footprint controller with three rows of PC/CC buttons=
) plus the two swell pedals.<BR><BR><BR>-- rgds,<BR>van Sinn<BR><BR><BR><BR=
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Does the RC30 do record into overdub for seamless loops or do you have =
to pass through play?

I do note that Roland appears to still not believe in feedback on =
loopers, but if you are mostly using the loopers for backing tracks that =
may not matter nearly as much. Though even for backing tracks, =
half-speed and reverse would have been nice -- but they cost buttons.

Mark

P.S. I would be interested in anyone's comparisons of the Roland =
Rec/Play/Dub + Stop button pairing v the Line 6 Rec/Dub + Play/Stop =
pairing. The Line 6 approach seems potentially better in that you can =
exit record into either overdub or play.

On Sep 15, 2011, at 7:01 AM, Paul Richards wrote:

> Seems like a mega-RC30 (which I just purchased) except for the 16 =
effects rather than 5 on the RC30. And 3 stereo tracks rather than the 2 =
on the RC30. I'd bet the prices will be the same as the discontinued =
RC50 ($499.00 USD).
> =20
> I used the RC30 for the first time yesterday for about an hour and am =
favorably impressed. Without maximizing gain settings, etc., I was able =
to generate some nice loops for improvisation background. I usually only =
use guitar and percussion so two tracks per loop works out ok for me. I =
like the fact that I can plug my miked guitar amp output right into the =
RC30. I had been using a 'Rang II until recently, btw. I like the fact =
that I can save my loops for later, further development or just jamming =
without having to come up with something to play with all the time. To =
my workflow, I think the Boss overdub is more fluid than the 'Rang (I =
hated the long press for the overdub which I muffed more often than not =
- maybe it's my toes). All in all, it's an interesting, fairly =
full-featured unit for $300.
> =20
> Anyway, if the RC300 follows suit like the RC30, it should be a great =
addition to the looping tools universe.
> =20
> Regards, Paul
>=20
> From: van Sinn <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk>
> To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" =
<Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 9:32 AM
> Subject: Re: GEAR alert: new Boss looper RC300 loopstation ...
>=20
> Benoit Ruelle wrote:
> >    * Three stereo tracks with dedicated footswitches and controls =
for each
> >    * Dedicated fader per track
> >    * Expression pedal for effects control in real time
> >    * Up to three hours of internal recording and 99 onboard memories
> >    * 16 onboard effects optimized for looping
> >    * XLR Microphone input with phantom power
> >    * USB storage; import/export WAV files
> > Not a revolution, rather an evolution.
> >  ... and other gear too:
> > http://www.rolandconnect.com/
> >    Ben
>=20
>=20
> Looks quite nice and complete.
>=20
> It doesn't seem to allow audio via USB, so those (like me) having =
everything else in a 19" rig will have to run audio cables across the =
floor.
> Would've been nice only needing a bundled MID/+USB cable across the =
floor.
> Anyone seen the manual?  I didn't; maybe my eyes needs a checkup ;)
>=20
> Also, does it allow extending an already recorded phrase, or whould =
this be done by recording on one of the additional loops?
>=20
> Though the RC300 is fairly large, I could live with this next to my =
Rocktron All Access (a decently compact almost square footprint =
controller with three rows of PC/CC buttons) plus the two swell pedals.
>=20
>=20
> -- rgds,
> van Sinn
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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Does =
the RC30 do record into overdub for seamless loops or do you have to =
pass through play?<div><br></div><div>I do note that Roland appears to =
still not believe in feedback on loopers, but if you are mostly using =
the loopers for backing tracks that may not matter nearly as much. =
Though even for backing tracks, half-speed and reverse would have been =
nice -- but they cost =
buttons.</div><div><br></div><div>Mark</div><div><br></div><div>P.S. I =
would be interested in anyone's comparisons of the Roland Rec/Play/Dub + =
Stop button pairing v the Line 6 Rec/Dub + Play/Stop pairing. The Line 6 =
approach seems potentially better in that you can exit record into =
either overdub or play.<br><div><br><div><div>On Sep 15, 2011, at 7:01 =
AM, Paul Richards wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div =
style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, =
new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><span =
style=3D"RIGHT: auto">Seems like a mega-RC30 (which I just purchased) =
except for the 16 effects rather than 5 on the RC30. And 3 stereo tracks =
rather than the 2 on the RC30. I'd bet the prices will be the same as =
the discontinued&nbsp;RC50 ($499.00 USD). </span></div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><span style=3D"RIGHT: =
auto"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><span style=3D"RIGHT: auto">I used the RC30 =
for the first time yesterday for about an hour and am favorably =
impressed. Without maximizing gain settings, etc., I was able to =
generate some nice loops for improvisation background. I usually only =
use guitar and percussion so two tracks per loop works out ok for me. =
I&nbsp;like the fact that I can plug my miked guitar amp output right =
into the RC30. I had been using a 'Rang II until recently, btw. I like =
the fact that I can save my loops for later, further development or just =
jamming without having to come up with something to play with all the =
time. To my workflow, I think the Boss overdub is more fluid than the =
'Rang (I hated the long press for the overdub which I muffed more often =
than not - maybe it's my toes). All in all, it's an interesting, fairly =
full-featured unit for $300. <var id=3D"yui-ie-cursor"></var></span></div>=

<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><span style=3D"RIGHT: =
auto"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><span style=3D"RIGHT: auto">Anyway, if the =
RC300 follows suit like the RC30, it should be a great addition to the =
looping tools universe.</span></div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><span style=3D"RIGHT: =
auto"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><span style=3D"RIGHT: auto">Regards, =
Paul</span></div>
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bold">From:</span></b> van Sinn &lt;<a =
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;<br><b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</span></b> "<a =
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s-delight.com</a>" &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@looper=
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bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, September 15, 2011 9:32 AM<br><b><span =
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: GEAR alert: new Boss =
looper RC300 loopstation ...<br></font><br>Benoit Ruelle =
wrote:<br>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; * Three stereo tracks with dedicated =
footswitches and controls for each<br>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; * Dedicated =
fader per track<br>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; *
 Expression pedal for effects control in real time<br>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; =
* Up to three hours of internal recording and 99 onboard =
memories<br>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; * 16 onboard effects optimized for =
looping<br>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; * XLR Microphone input with phantom =
power<br>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; * USB storage; import/export WAV =
files<br>&gt; Not a revolution, rather an evolution.<br>&gt;&nbsp; ... =
and other gear too:<br>&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.rolandconnect.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.rolandconnect.com/</a><br>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; =
Ben<br><br><br>Looks quite nice and complete.<br><br>It doesn't seem to =
allow audio via USB, so those (like me) having everything else in a 19" =
rig will have to run audio cables across the floor.<br>Would've been =
nice only needing a bundled MID/+USB cable across the floor.<br>Anyone =
seen the manual?&nbsp; I didn't; maybe my eyes needs a checkup =
;)<br><br>Also, does it allow extending an already recorded phrase, or =
whould this be done by
 recording on one of the additional loops?<br><br>Though the RC300 is =
fairly large, I could live with this next to my Rocktron All Access (a =
decently compact almost square footprint controller with three rows of =
PC/CC buttons) plus the two swell pedals.<br><br><br>-- rgds,<br>van =
Sinn<br><br><br><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div><=
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Hi:=0A=A0=0AThe factory default on the RC30 goes Record->Overdub->Play and =
it is reconfigurable to (apparently) work like the replaced unit (RC20 XL ?=
) to Record->Play-> Overdub. =0A=A0=0APaul=0A=0AFrom: Mark Hamburg <mark@gr=
ubmah.com>=0ATo: LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight=
.com>=0ASent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 10:45 AM=0ASubject: Re: GEAR ale=
rt: new Boss looper RC300 loopstation ...=0A=0A=0ADoes the RC30 do record i=
nto overdub for seamless loops or do you have to pass through play? =0A=0AI=
 do note that Roland appears to still not believe in feedback on loopers, b=
ut if you are mostly using the loopers for backing tracks that may not matt=
er nearly as much. Though even for backing tracks, half-speed and reverse w=
ould have been nice -- but they cost buttons.=0A=0AMark=0A=0AP.S. I would b=
e interested in anyone's comparisons of the Roland Rec/Play/Dub + Stop butt=
on pairing v the Line 6 Rec/Dub + Play/Stop pairing. The Line 6 approach se=
ems potentially better in that you can exit record into either overdub or p=
lay.=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Sep 15, 2011, at 7:01 AM, Paul Richards wrote:=0A=0ASeem=
s like a mega-RC30 (which I just purchased) except for the 16 effects rathe=
r than 5 on the RC30. And 3 stereo tracks rather than the 2 on the RC30. I'=
d bet the prices will be the same as the discontinued=A0RC50 ($499.00 USD).=
 =0A>=A0=0A>I used the RC30 for the first time yesterday for about an hour =
and am favorably impressed. Without maximizing gain settings, etc., I was a=
ble to generate some nice loops for improvisation background. I usually onl=
y use guitar and percussion so two tracks per loop works out ok for me. I=
=A0like the fact that I can plug my miked guitar amp output right into the =
RC30. I had been using a 'Rang II until recently, btw. I like the fact that=
 I can save my loops for later, further development or just jamming without=
 having to come up with something to play with all the time. To my workflow=
, I think the Boss overdub is more fluid than the 'Rang (I hated the long p=
ress for the overdub which I muffed more often than not - maybe it's my toe=
s). All in all, it's an interesting, fairly full-featured unit for $300. =
=0A>=A0=0A>Anyway, if the RC300 follows suit like the RC30, it should be a =
great addition to the looping tools universe.=0A>=A0=0A>Regards, Paul=0A>=
=0A>=0A>From: van Sinn <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk>=0A>To: "Loopers-Delight@=
loopers-delight.com" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>=0A>Sent: Thursda=
y, September 15, 2011 9:32 AM=0A>Subject: Re: GEAR alert: new Boss looper R=
C300 loopstation ...=0A>=0A>Benoit Ruelle wrote:=0A>>=A0 =A0 * Three stereo=
 tracks with dedicated footswitches and controls for each=0A>>=A0 =A0 * Ded=
icated fader per track=0A>>=A0 =A0 * Expression pedal for effects control i=
n real time=0A>>=A0 =A0 * Up to three hours of internal recording and 99 on=
board memories=0A>>=A0 =A0 * 16 onboard effects optimized for looping=0A>>=
=A0 =A0 * XLR Microphone input with phantom power=0A>>=A0 =A0 * USB storage=
; import/export WAV files=0A>> Not a revolution, rather an evolution.=0A>>=
=A0 ... and other gear too:=0A>> http://www.rolandconnect.com/=0A>>=A0 =A0 =
Ben=0A>=0A>=0A>Looks quite nice and complete.=0A>=0A>It doesn't seem to all=
ow audio via USB, so those (like me) having everything else in a 19" rig wi=
ll have to run audio cables across the floor.=0A>Would've been nice only ne=
eding a bundled MID/+USB cable across the floor.=0A>Anyone seen the manual?=
=A0 I didn't; maybe my eyes needs a checkup ;)=0A>=0A>Also, does it allow e=
xtending an already recorded phrase, or whould this be done by recording on=
 one of the additional loops?=0A>=0A>Though the RC300 is fairly large, I co=
uld live with this next to my Rocktron All Access (a decently compact almos=
t square footprint controller with three rows of PC/CC buttons) plus the tw=
o swell pedals.=0A>=0A>=0A>-- rgds,=0A>van Sinn=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti=
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style=3D"RIGHT: =
auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto">Hi:</SPAN></div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto"></SPAN>&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto">The factory default =
on the RC30 goes Record-&gt;Overdub-&gt;Play and it is reconfigurable to (a=
pparently) work like the replaced unit (RC20 XL ?) to Record-&gt;Play-&gt; =
Overdub. <VAR id=3Dyui-ie-cursor></VAR></SPAN></div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto"></SPAN>&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style=3D"RIGHT: auto">Paul</SPAN></div>
<div><BR></div>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SI=
ZE: 12pt">
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SI=
ZE: 12pt"><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>
<DIV style=3D"BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; P=
ADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PAD=
DING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; B=
ORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px" class=3Dhr readonly=3D"true"=
 contenteditable=3D"false"></DIV><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:=
</SPAN></B> Mark Hamburg &lt;mark@grubmah.com&gt;<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT=
-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) &lt;Loopers-Delight=
@loopers-delight.com&gt;<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPA=
N></B> Thursday, September 15, 2011 10:45 AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIG=
HT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: GEAR alert: new Boss looper RC300 loopsta=
tion ...<BR></FONT><BR>
<DIV id=3Dyiv584388078>Does the RC30 do record into overdub for seamless lo=
ops or do you have to pass through play?
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I do note that Roland appears to still not believe in feedback on loop=
ers, but if you are mostly using the loopers for backing tracks that may no=
t matter nearly as much. Though even for backing tracks, half-speed and rev=
erse would have been nice -- but they cost buttons.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Mark</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>P.S. I would be interested in anyone's comparisons of the Roland Rec/P=
lay/Dub + Stop button pairing v the Line 6 Rec/Dub + Play/Stop pairing. The=
 Line 6 approach seems potentially better in that you can exit record into =
either overdub or play.<BR>
<DIV><BR>
<DIV>
<DIV>On Sep 15, 2011, at 7:01 AM, Paul Richards wrote:</DIV><BR class=3Dyiv=
584388078Apple-interchange-newline>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
<DIV>
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new yor=
k, times, serif; COLOR: #000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
<DIV><SPAN>Seems like a mega-RC30 (which I just purchased) except for the 1=
6 effects rather than 5 on the RC30. And 3 stereo tracks rather than the 2 =
on the RC30. I'd bet the prices will be the same as the discontinued&nbsp;R=
C50 ($499.00 USD). </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>I used the RC30 for the first time yesterday for about an hour a=
nd am favorably impressed. Without maximizing gain settings, etc., I was ab=
le to generate some nice loops for improvisation background. I usually only=
 use guitar and percussion so two tracks per loop works out ok for me. I&nb=
sp;like the fact that I can plug my miked guitar amp output right into the =
RC30. I had been using a 'Rang II until recently, btw. I like the fact that=
 I can save my loops for later, further development or just jamming without=
 having to come up with something to play with all the time. To my workflow=
, I think the Boss overdub is more fluid than the 'Rang (I hated the long p=
ress for the overdub which I muffed more often than not - maybe it's my toe=
s). All in all, it's an interesting, fairly full-featured unit for $300. <V=
AR id=3Dyiv584388078yui-ie-cursor></VAR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>Anyway, if the RC300 follows suit like the RC30, it should be a =
great addition to the looping tools universe.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>Regards, Paul</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SI=
ZE: 12pt">
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SI=
ZE: 12pt"><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>
<DIV style=3D"BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; P=
ADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PAD=
DING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; B=
ORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px" class=3Dyiv584388078hr></DIV=
><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> van Sinn &lt;<A href=
=3D"mailto:vansinn@post.cybercity.dk" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank ymailt=
o=3D"mailto:vansinn@post.cybercity.dk">vansinn@post.cybercity.dk</A>&gt;<BR=
><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> "<A href=3D"mailto:Loo=
pers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D=
"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-deligh=
t.com</A>" &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" rel=
=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig=
ht.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</A>&gt;<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FO=
NT-WEIGHT:
 bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, September 15, 2011 9:32 AM<BR><B><SPAN st=
yle=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: GEAR alert: new Boss loop=
er RC300 loopstation ...<BR></FONT><BR>Benoit Ruelle wrote:<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &=
nbsp; * Three stereo tracks with dedicated footswitches and controls for ea=
ch<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; * Dedicated fader per track<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; * =
Expression pedal for effects control in real time<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; * Up=
 to three hours of internal recording and 99 onboard memories<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=
 &nbsp; * 16 onboard effects optimized for looping<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; * X=
LR Microphone input with phantom power<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; * USB storage; =
import/export WAV files<BR>&gt; Not a revolution, rather an evolution.<BR>&=
gt;&nbsp; ... and other gear too:<BR>&gt; <A href=3D"http://www.rolandconne=
ct.com/" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank>http://www.rolandconnect.com/</A><B=
R>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Ben<BR><BR><BR>Looks quite nice and complete.<BR><BR>It
 doesn't seem to allow audio via USB, so those (like me) having everything =
else in a 19" rig will have to run audio cables across the floor.<BR>Would'=
ve been nice only needing a bundled MID/+USB cable across the floor.<BR>Any=
one seen the manual?&nbsp; I didn't; maybe my eyes needs a checkup ;)<BR><B=
R>Also, does it allow extending an already recorded phrase, or whould this =
be done by recording on one of the additional loops?<BR><BR>Though the RC30=
0 is fairly large, I could live with this next to my Rocktron All Access (a=
 decently compact almost square footprint controller with three rows of PC/=
CC buttons) plus the two swell pedals.<BR><BR><BR>-- rgds,<BR>van Sinn<BR><=
BR><BR><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV=
><BR><BR></DIV></DIV></div></body></html>
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I use the looper on my Line6 M13.  I love the layout, but want some of the
extra bells and whistles of a dedicated looper.  Was shootin for the
Boomerang 3, but this might be cool.  I would use it live all the time.

Sent from my phone,

Mike
On Sep 15, 2011 9:45 AM, "Mark Hamburg" <mark@grubmah.com> wrote:
> Does the RC30 do record into overdub for seamless loops or do you have to
pass through play?
>
> I do note that Roland appears to still not believe in feedback on loopers,
but if you are mostly using the loopers for backing tracks that may not
matter nearly as much. Though even for backing tracks, half-speed and
reverse would have been nice -- but they cost buttons.
>
> Mark
>
> P.S. I would be interested in anyone's comparisons of the Roland
Rec/Play/Dub + Stop button pairing v the Line 6 Rec/Dub + Play/Stop pairing.
The Line 6 approach seems potentially better in that you can exit record
into either overdub or play.
>
> On Sep 15, 2011, at 7:01 AM, Paul Richards wrote:
>
>> Seems like a mega-RC30 (which I just purchased) except for the 16 effects
rather than 5 on the RC30. And 3 stereo tracks rather than the 2 on the
RC30. I'd bet the prices will be the same as the discontinued RC50 ($499.00
USD).
>>
>> I used the RC30 for the first time yesterday for about an hour and am
favorably impressed. Without maximizing gain settings, etc., I was able to
generate some nice loops for improvisation background. I usually only use
guitar and percussion so two tracks per loop works out ok for me. I like the
fact that I can plug my miked guitar amp output right into the RC30. I had
been using a 'Rang II until recently, btw. I like the fact that I can save
my loops for later, further development or just jamming without having to
come up with something to play with all the time. To my workflow, I think
the Boss overdub is more fluid than the 'Rang (I hated the long press for
the overdub which I muffed more often than not - maybe it's my toes). All in
all, it's an interesting, fairly full-featured unit for $300.
>>
>> Anyway, if the RC300 follows suit like the RC30, it should be a great
addition to the looping tools universe.
>>
>> Regards, Paul
>>
>> From: van Sinn <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk>
>> To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" <
Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 9:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: GEAR alert: new Boss looper RC300 loopstation ...
>>
>> Benoit Ruelle wrote:
>> > * Three stereo tracks with dedicated footswitches and controls for each
>> > * Dedicated fader per track
>> > * Expression pedal for effects control in real time
>> > * Up to three hours of internal recording and 99 onboard memories
>> > * 16 onboard effects optimized for looping
>> > * XLR Microphone input with phantom power
>> > * USB storage; import/export WAV files
>> > Not a revolution, rather an evolution.
>> > ... and other gear too:
>> > http://www.rolandconnect.com/
>> > Ben
>>
>>
>> Looks quite nice and complete.
>>
>> It doesn't seem to allow audio via USB, so those (like me) having
everything else in a 19" rig will have to run audio cables across the floor.
>> Would've been nice only needing a bundled MID/+USB cable across the
floor.
>> Anyone seen the manual? I didn't; maybe my eyes needs a checkup ;)
>>
>> Also, does it allow extending an already recorded phrase, or whould this
be done by recording on one of the additional loops?
>>
>> Though the RC300 is fairly large, I could live with this next to my
Rocktron All Access (a decently compact almost square footprint controller
with three rows of PC/CC buttons) plus the two swell pedals.
>>
>>
>> -- rgds,
>> van Sinn
>>
>>
>>
>

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<p>I use the looper on my Line6 M13.=A0 I love the layout, but want some of=
 the extra bells and whistles of a dedicated looper.=A0 Was shootin for the=
 Boomerang 3, but this might be cool.=A0 I would use it live all the time.<=
/p>

<p>Sent from my phone,</p>
<p>Mike</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep 15, 2011 9:45 AM, &quot;Mark Hamburg&quot=
; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@grubmah.com">mark@grubmah.com</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
r type=3D"attribution">&gt; Does the RC30 do record into overdub for seamle=
ss loops or do you have to pass through play?<br>
&gt; <br>&gt; I do note that Roland appears to still not believe in feedbac=
k on loopers, but if you are mostly using the loopers for backing tracks th=
at may not matter nearly as much. Though even for backing tracks, half-spee=
d and reverse would have been nice -- but they cost buttons.<br>
&gt; <br>&gt; Mark<br>&gt; <br>&gt; P.S. I would be interested in anyone&#3=
9;s comparisons of the Roland Rec/Play/Dub + Stop button pairing v the Line=
 6 Rec/Dub + Play/Stop pairing. The Line 6 approach seems potentially bette=
r in that you can exit record into either overdub or play.<br>
&gt; <br>&gt; On Sep 15, 2011, at 7:01 AM, Paul Richards wrote:<br>&gt; <br=
>&gt;&gt; Seems like a mega-RC30 (which I just purchased) except for the 16=
 effects rather than 5 on the RC30. And 3 stereo tracks rather than the 2 o=
n the RC30. I&#39;d bet the prices will be the same as the discontinued RC5=
0 ($499.00 USD).<br>
&gt;&gt;  <br>&gt;&gt; I used the RC30 for the first time yesterday for abo=
ut an hour and am favorably impressed. Without maximizing gain settings, et=
c., I was able to generate some nice loops for improvisation background. I =
usually only use guitar and percussion so two tracks per loop works out ok =
for me. I like the fact that I can plug my miked guitar amp output right in=
to the RC30. I had been using a &#39;Rang II until recently, btw. I like th=
e fact that I can save my loops for later, further development or just jamm=
ing without having to come up with something to play with all the time. To =
my workflow, I think the Boss overdub is more fluid than the &#39;Rang (I h=
ated the long press for the overdub which I muffed more often than not - ma=
ybe it&#39;s my toes). All in all, it&#39;s an interesting, fairly full-fea=
tured unit for $300.<br>
&gt;&gt;  <br>&gt;&gt; Anyway, if the RC300 follows suit like the RC30, it =
should be a great addition to the looping tools universe.<br>&gt;&gt;  <br>=
&gt;&gt; Regards, Paul<br>&gt;&gt; <br>&gt;&gt; From: van Sinn &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:vansinn@post.cybercity.dk">vansinn@post.cybercity.dk</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; To: &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">L=
oopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-=
Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>&gt;<br=
>
&gt;&gt; Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 9:32 AM<br>&gt;&gt; Subject: Re=
: GEAR alert: new Boss looper RC300 loopstation ...<br>&gt;&gt; <br>&gt;&gt=
; Benoit Ruelle wrote:<br>&gt;&gt; &gt;    * Three stereo tracks with dedic=
ated footswitches and controls for each<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;    * Dedicated fader per track<br>&gt;&gt; &gt;    * Expressi=
on pedal for effects control in real time<br>&gt;&gt; &gt;    * Up to three=
 hours of internal recording and 99 onboard memories<br>&gt;&gt; &gt;    * =
16 onboard effects optimized for looping<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;    * XLR Microphone input with phantom power<br>&gt;&gt; &gt;=
    * USB storage; import/export WAV files<br>&gt;&gt; &gt; Not a revolutio=
n, rather an evolution.<br>&gt;&gt; &gt;  ... and other gear too:<br>&gt;&g=
t; &gt; <a href=3D"http://www.rolandconnect.com/">http://www.rolandconnect.=
com/</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;    Ben<br>&gt;&gt; <br>&gt;&gt; <br>&gt;&gt; Looks quite nice=
 and complete.<br>&gt;&gt; <br>&gt;&gt; It doesn&#39;t seem to allow audio =
via USB, so those (like me) having everything else in a 19&quot; rig will h=
ave to run audio cables across the floor.<br>
&gt;&gt; Would&#39;ve been nice only needing a bundled MID/+USB cable acros=
s the floor.<br>&gt;&gt; Anyone seen the manual?  I didn&#39;t; maybe my ey=
es needs a checkup ;)<br>&gt;&gt; <br>&gt;&gt; Also, does it allow extendin=
g an already recorded phrase, or whould this be done by recording on one of=
 the additional loops?<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>&gt;&gt; Though the RC300 is fairly large, I could live with t=
his next to my Rocktron All Access (a decently compact almost square footpr=
int controller with three rows of PC/CC buttons) plus the two swell pedals.=
<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>&gt;&gt; <br>&gt;&gt; -- rgds,<br>&gt;&gt; van Sinn<br>&gt;&gt=
; <br>&gt;&gt; <br>&gt;&gt; <br>&gt; <br></div>

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wow, thats a smart move, isnt it?

On 15 Sep 2011, at 11:59, Paul Richards wrote:

> Hi:
> =20
> The factory default on the RC30 goes Record->Overdub->Play and it is =
reconfigurable to (apparently) work like the replaced unit (RC20 XL ?) =
to Record->Play-> Overdub.
> =20
> Paul

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Again, I only had the RC-3 and a footswitch, but I would want to toggle
between the two at different times.  I use a looper for live shows, so even
my jams at home are really geared towards live use.  I was a bit naive when
picking up the pedal as the Line6 M13 had all the functions I needed at the
time.

Ultimately, what I learned is it was easier to accidently go right from
recording to overdub on the M13 than the Boss.  With the M13, I could just
hit undo.  I know you can configure the Boss out that way, but it wasn't the
best tool for the job.

My friend, Brandon Bailey, uses the RC-30 and really enjoys it...I think he
had a Headrush before.  That would probably work for me, but I've heard
several poor reviews of the pedal for a multitude of reasons.  He has a lot
of live stuff on YouTube, and an album out, but here is a clip with the
RC-30 specifically -http://youtu.be/vJTHZYYkQjE.

He is way better with this format than I am.  I am trying to do the one mand
harmonica band thing, but I can't beatbox and harpbox as well as he does.
With a looper, I need something that gives me flexibility in separating
"bass", "drums", and harmonica as possible...I do all the instruments
through the same mic and use a separate mic for singing.

I am hoping to pick up a Boomerang III before November, but I could probably
benefit from the quantize on the Boss pedals, and the RC300 looks worth
waiting to check out.  I don't need all the recording and effect features,
though.







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On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Matthias Grob <matilists@gmail.com> wrote:

> wow, thats a smart move, isnt it?
>
> On 15 Sep 2011, at 11:59, Paul Richards wrote:
>
> > Hi:
> >
> > The factory default on the RC30 goes Record->Overdub->Play and it is
> reconfigurable to (apparently) work like the replaced unit (RC20 XL ?) to
> Record->Play-> Overdub.
> >
> > Paul
>
>

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Again, I only had the RC-3 and a footswitch, but I would want to toggle bet=
ween the two at different times.=A0 I use a looper for live shows, so even =
my jams at home are really geared towards live use.=A0 I was a bit naive wh=
en picking up the pedal as the Line6 M13 had all the functions I needed at =
the time.<br>

<br>Ultimately, what I learned is it was easier to accidently go right from=
 recording to overdub on the M13 than the Boss.=A0 With the M13, I could ju=
st hit undo.=A0 I know you can configure the Boss out that way, but it wasn=
&#39;t the best tool for the job.<br>

<br>My friend, Brandon Bailey, uses the RC-30 and really enjoys it...I thin=
k he had a Headrush before.=A0 That would probably work for me, but I&#39;v=
e heard several poor reviews of the pedal for a multitude of reasons.=A0 He=
 has a lot of live stuff on YouTube, and an album out, but here is a clip w=
ith the RC-30 specifically -<a href=3D"http://youtu.be/vJTHZYYkQjE">http://=
youtu.be/vJTHZYYkQjE</a>.<br>

<br>He is way better with this format than I am.=A0 I am trying to do the o=
ne mand harmonica band thing, but I can&#39;t beatbox and harpbox as well a=
s he does.=A0 With a looper, I need something that gives me flexibility in =
separating &quot;bass&quot;, &quot;drums&quot;, and harmonica as possible..=
.I do all the instruments through the same mic and use a separate mic for s=
inging.=A0 <br>

<br>I am hoping to pick up a Boomerang III before November, but I could pro=
bably benefit from the quantize on the Boss pedals, and the RC300 looks wor=
th waiting to check out.=A0 I don&#39;t need all the recording and effect f=
eatures, though.<br>

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wow, thats a smart move, isnt it?<br>
<br>
On 15 Sep 2011, at 11:59, Paul Richards wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; Hi:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The factory default on the RC30 goes Record-&gt;Overdub-&gt;Play and i=
t is reconfigurable to (apparently) work like the replaced unit (RC20 XL ?)=
 to Record-&gt;Play-&gt; Overdub.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Paul<br>
<br>
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Mike Fugazzi wrote:
> Lol!  I am 90% sold on the Boomerang III.  Does that mean I am going to 
> get kicked off the list?

long history of Boomerang appreciators on the list Mike

...and for that matter, RC-50 guys too.

andy





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Mike Fugazzi wrote:
 
> I am hoping to pick up a Boomerang III before November, but I could 
> probably benefit from the quantize on the Boss pedals, and the RC300 
> looks worth waiting to check out. 

Why do you think quantise will help?


On first glance, the RC-300 looks like a downgrade of the RC-50,
the switches look like they do less per switch in order to
make it easier to use.

There's no Undo/Redo switch, although that feature is mentioned.
Thought I saw mention of reverse somewhere too.

The demo has all three loops the same length.

http://www.roland.com/video/page.cfm?id=1152096624001

Wonder if they fixed the RC-50 'gap' for this one.

andy


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It would help cover up mistakes live?

I would get a used RC50, but had heard there is a glitch for live use where
there is a pause in the initial recording.  I need something meant for live
use.

Honestly, most the bells and whistels on the 300 are overkill for me.

Sent from my phone,

Mike
On Sep 15, 2011 4:03 PM, "andy butler" <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> Mike Fugazzi wrote:
>
>> I am hoping to pick up a Boomerang III before November, but I could
>> probably benefit from the quantize on the Boss pedals, and the RC300
>> looks worth waiting to check out.
>
> Why do you think quantise will help?
>
>
> On first glance, the RC-300 looks like a downgrade of the RC-50,
> the switches look like they do less per switch in order to
> make it easier to use.
>
> There's no Undo/Redo switch, although that feature is mentioned.
> Thought I saw mention of reverse somewhere too.
>
> The demo has all three loops the same length.
>
> http://www.roland.com/video/page.cfm?id=1152096624001
>
> Wonder if they fixed the RC-50 'gap' for this one.
>
> andy
>
>

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<p>It would help cover up mistakes live?</p>
<p>I would get a used RC50, but had heard there is a glitch for live use wh=
ere there is a pause in the initial recording.=A0 I need something meant fo=
r live use.</p>
<p>Honestly, most the bells and whistels on the 300 are overkill for me.</p=
>
<p>Sent from my phone,</p>
<p>Mike</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep 15, 2011 4:03 PM, &quot;andy butler&quot;=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk">akbutler@tiscali.co.uk</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution">&gt; Mike Fugazzi wrote:<br>&gt;  <br>&gt=
;&gt; I am hoping to pick up a Boomerang III before November, but I could <=
br>
&gt;&gt; probably benefit from the quantize on the Boss pedals, and the RC3=
00 <br>&gt;&gt; looks worth waiting to check out. <br>&gt; <br>&gt; Why do =
you think quantise will help?<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; On first glance, th=
e RC-300 looks like a downgrade of the RC-50,<br>
&gt; the switches look like they do less per switch in order to<br>&gt; mak=
e it easier to use.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; There&#39;s no Undo/Redo switch, altho=
ugh that feature is mentioned.<br>&gt; Thought I saw mention of reverse som=
ewhere too.<br>
&gt; <br>&gt; The demo has all three loops the same length.<br>&gt; <br>&gt=
; <a href=3D"http://www.roland.com/video/page.cfm?id=3D1152096624001">http:=
//www.roland.com/video/page.cfm?id=3D1152096624001</a><br>&gt; <br>&gt; Won=
der if they fixed the RC-50 &#39;gap&#39; for this one.<br>
&gt; <br>&gt; andy<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br></div>

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GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY:                   http://galactictravels.info
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Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the
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Bernhard Wosteinrich who will also play at that concert.

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So my past musings that BOSS doesnt believe in these "bigger" loopers
anymore (discontinued RC-50)
is now proven SO wrong :-D

-Petri Lahtinen-

2011/9/16 Mike Fugazzi <mikefugazzi@gmail.com>

> It would help cover up mistakes live?
>
> I would get a used RC50, but had heard there is a glitch for live use where
> there is a pause in the initial recording.  I need something meant for live
> use.
>
> Honestly, most the bells and whistels on the 300 are overkill for me.
>
> Sent from my phone,
>
> Mike
> On Sep 15, 2011 4:03 PM, "andy butler" <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> > Mike Fugazzi wrote:
> >
> >> I am hoping to pick up a Boomerang III before November, but I could
> >> probably benefit from the quantize on the Boss pedals, and the RC300
> >> looks worth waiting to check out.
> >
> > Why do you think quantise will help?
> >
> >
> > On first glance, the RC-300 looks like a downgrade of the RC-50,
> > the switches look like they do less per switch in order to
> > make it easier to use.
> >
> > There's no Undo/Redo switch, although that feature is mentioned.
> > Thought I saw mention of reverse somewhere too.
> >
> > The demo has all three loops the same length.
> >
> > http://www.roland.com/video/page.cfm?id=1152096624001
> >
> > Wonder if they fixed the RC-50 'gap' for this one.
> >
> > andy
> >
> >
>



-- 
Petri Lahtinen

http://www.petrilahtinen.com

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So my past musings that BOSS doesnt believe in these &quot;bigger&quot; loo=
pers anymore (discontinued RC-50)<br>is now proven SO wrong :-D<br><br>-Pet=
ri Lahtinen-<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/9/16 Mike Fugazzi <span=
 dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mikefugazzi@gmail.com">mikefugazzi@gmail=
.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><p>It would help cover up mistakes live?</p=
>
<p>I would get a used RC50, but had heard there is a glitch for live use wh=
ere there is a pause in the initial recording.=A0 I need something meant fo=
r live use.</p>
<p>Honestly, most the bells and whistels on the 300 are overkill for me.</p=
><div class=3D"im">
<p>Sent from my phone,</p>
<p>Mike</p>
</div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep 1=
5, 2011 4:03 PM, &quot;andy butler&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:akbutler@tis=
cali.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">akbutler@tiscali.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=
=3D"attribution">
&gt; Mike Fugazzi wrote:<br>&gt;  <br>&gt;&gt; I am hoping to pick up a Boo=
merang III before November, but I could <br>
&gt;&gt; probably benefit from the quantize on the Boss pedals, and the RC3=
00 <br>&gt;&gt; looks worth waiting to check out. <br>&gt; <br>&gt; Why do =
you think quantise will help?<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; On first glance, th=
e RC-300 looks like a downgrade of the RC-50,<br>

&gt; the switches look like they do less per switch in order to<br>&gt; mak=
e it easier to use.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; There&#39;s no Undo/Redo switch, altho=
ugh that feature is mentioned.<br>&gt; Thought I saw mention of reverse som=
ewhere too.<br>

&gt; <br>&gt; The demo has all three loops the same length.<br>&gt; <br>&gt=
; <a href=3D"http://www.roland.com/video/page.cfm?id=3D1152096624001" targe=
t=3D"_blank">http://www.roland.com/video/page.cfm?id=3D1152096624001</a><br=
>&gt; <br>
&gt; Wonder if they fixed the RC-50 &#39;gap&#39; for this one.<br>
&gt; <br>&gt; andy<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br></div>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Petri Lahti=
nen<br><br><a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com" target=3D"_blank">http:=
//www.petrilahtinen.com</a><br><br>

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Chiming in bit late, but if you excuse me:

Happy 15th birthday Loopers Delight!

One of the really meaningful things in my recent musical experiences, was
joining this list 2 years ago.
So many pieces of information, sources for new good music etc etc. And fine
people, from all over the world.
Greetings from Finland,

-Petri Lahtinen-

2011/9/3 Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net>

>   A Happy 15th indeed!  So many talented, creative people held together
> over all this time thanks to Kim, and now Violet.  Thanks to those present,
> and sadly, absent...
>
>  *From:* Fabio_A <eterogenus@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, September 02, 2011 1:24 PM
> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> *Subject:* Re: Happy 15th, Looper's Delight!
>
>  I loop your words, Simeon !
> From when I subscribed in 2004 it hasn't been the same for me also.
> Many thanks to Violet for having LD alive and kicking !
>
> -fabio
> www.eterogeneo.com
>
> 2011/9/2 Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com>
>
>> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 2:54 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
>> This website and this community irrevocably changed the shape of my
>> artistic life.
>>
>> i'm with rick and michael on this. the internet has changed our lives
>> in ways we couldn't have imagined, some better and some worse, but
>> this simple little mailing list, which seems so anachronistic in this
>> day and age, has done more to influence my musical growth and
>> direction than almost anything else i can think of. it's connected me
>> with so many amazing, generous and knowledgeable people, that
>> expressing my gratitude here, in text form, as an email, hardly seems
>> adequate....
>> thanks to all of you and especially kim for his vision and violet for
>> her strength.
>>
>> sim
>>
>>
>



-- 
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Chiming in bit late, but if you excuse me:<br>
<br>
Happy 15th birthday Loopers Delight!<br>
<br>
One of the really meaningful things in my recent musical experiences, was j=
oining this list 2 years ago.<br>
So many pieces of information, sources for new good music etc etc. And fine=
 people, from all over the world.<br>
Greetings from Finland,<br>
<br>
-Petri Lahtinen-<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/9/3 Stephen Goodman=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spgoodman@earthlight.net">spgoodma=
n@earthlight.net</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">

<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family:&#39;Calibri&#39;;color:#000000;font-size:12pt">
<div>A Happy 15th indeed!=A0 So many talented, creative people held togethe=
r=20
over all this time thanks to Kim, and now Violet.=A0 Thanks to those presen=
t,=20
and sadly, absent...</div>
<div style=3D"font-style:normal;display:inline;font-family:&#39;Calibri&#39=
;;color:#000000;font-size:small;font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none">
<div style=3D"font:10pt tahoma">
<div>=A0</div>
<div style=3D"background:#f5f5f5">
<div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"eterogenus@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:eterogen=
us@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">Fabio_A</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 02, 2011 1:24 PM</div><div class=3D"im"=
>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" href=3D"ma=
ilto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight=
@loopers-delight.com</a>=20
</div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: Happy 15th, Looper&#39;s Delight!</div></div></div=
></div>
<div>=A0</div></div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">
<div style=3D"font-style:normal;display:inline;font-family:&#39;Calibri&#39=
;;color:#000000;font-size:small;font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none">
<div>I loop your words, Simeon !</div>
<div>From when I subscribed in 2004 it hasn&#39;t been the same for me also=
.</div>
<div>Many thanks to Violet for having LD alive and kicking !</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>-fabio</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.eterogeneo.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.eterogene=
o.com</a><br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/9/2 Simeon Harris <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:simeonharris40@googlemail.com" target=3D"_blank">simeonharri=
s40@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote style=3D"border-left:#ccc 1px solid;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;pa=
dding-left:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">
  <div>On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 2:54 AM, Rick Walker &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lo=
oppool@cruzio.com" target=3D"_blank">looppool@cruzio.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>=
This=20
  website and this community irrevocably changed the shape of my<br>artisti=
c=20
  life.<br><br></div>i&#39;m with rick and michael on this. the internet ha=
s changed=20
  our lives<br>in ways we couldn&#39;t have imagined, some better and some =
worse,=20
  but<br>this simple little mailing list, which seems so anachronistic in=
=20
  this<br>day and age, has done more to influence my musical growth=20
  and<br>direction than almost anything else i can think of. it&#39;s conne=
cted=20
  me<br>with so many amazing, generous and knowledgeable people,=20
  that<br>expressing my gratitude here, in text form, as an email, hardly=
=20
  seems<br>adequate....<br>thanks to all of you and especially kim for his=
=20
  vision and violet for<br>her strength.<br><br>sim<br><br></blockquote></d=
iv>
<div>=A0</div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Petri Lahtinen<br><br><=
a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.petril=
ahtinen.com</a><br><br>

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>  > Why do you think quantise will help?
Mike Fugazzi wrote:
> It would help cover up mistakes live?

It's also possible that you'd get the rhythm spot on,
but the algorithm would misinterpret your playing
and make a bad loop.

If you're serious about looping you'll soon learn
accuracy (well, you won't if you're using quantise).

Note: Roland/Boss have presumably picked up the term
'Quantise' from some of the top of the line loopers,
however they use the term differently.

> 
> I would get a used RC50, but had heard there is a glitch for live use 
> where there is a pause in the initial recording.  

The famous glitch fixed with a firmware update,
at least it's fixed for the first loop you record 
where it's most noticeable.

> Honestly, most the bells and whistels on the 300 are overkill for me.

As yet we know very little about the RC-300, 
until the manual's available and until find out whether it
actually *does* the claimed features. 


Why not the Rang then?

Also check out the Vox VDL-1
2 synced loops, one a multiple of the other,
Undo/Redo on both loops,
and a nice low price.

andy butler

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Nice
I downloaded the app !!!
Thanks 

Lele Bassi

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> This might be of interest to some of you:
> http://www.smule.com/madpad
> 
> Sylvain
> 

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On 7/31/11 8:51 PM, Ricky Graham wrote:
>
> Thanks for the airplay, Bill.
>
> On Jul 31, 2011 5:09 PM, "Bill Fox" <billyfox@soundscapes.us 
> <mailto:billyfox@soundscapes.us>> wrote:
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Hi Ricky.  You're very welcome!

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Regarding that glitch and the firmware update, where do you find that?

On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 4:45 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

>  > Why do you think quantise will help?
>>
> Mike Fugazzi wrote:
>
>> It would help cover up mistakes live?
>>
>
> It's also possible that you'd get the rhythm spot on,
> but the algorithm would misinterpret your playing
> and make a bad loop.
>
> If you're serious about looping you'll soon learn
> accuracy (well, you won't if you're using quantise).
>
> Note: Roland/Boss have presumably picked up the term
> 'Quantise' from some of the top of the line loopers,
> however they use the term differently.
>
>
>> I would get a used RC50, but had heard there is a glitch for live use
>> where there is a pause in the initial recording.
>>
>
> The famous glitch fixed with a firmware update,
> at least it's fixed for the first loop you record where it's most
> noticeable.
>
>  Honestly, most the bells and whistels on the 300 are overkill for me.
>>
>
> As yet we know very little about the RC-300, until the manual's available
> and until find out whether it
> actually *does* the claimed features.
>
> Why not the Rang then?
>
> Also check out the Vox VDL-1
> 2 synced loops, one a multiple of the other,
> Undo/Redo on both loops,
> and a nice low price.
>
> andy butler
>
>

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Regarding that glitch and the firmware update, where do you find that? <br>=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 4:45 AM, andy butler=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk">akbutler@t=
iscali.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
=A0&gt; Why do you think quantise will help?<br>
</blockquote>
Mike Fugazzi wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
It would help cover up mistakes live?<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
It&#39;s also possible that you&#39;d get the rhythm spot on,<br>
but the algorithm would misinterpret your playing<br>
and make a bad loop.<br>
<br>
If you&#39;re serious about looping you&#39;ll soon learn<br>
accuracy (well, you won&#39;t if you&#39;re using quantise).<br>
<br>
Note: Roland/Boss have presumably picked up the term<br>
&#39;Quantise&#39; from some of the top of the line loopers,<br>
however they use the term differently.<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
I would get a used RC50, but had heard there is a glitch for live use where=
 there is a pause in the initial recording. =A0<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
The famous glitch fixed with a firmware update,<br>
at least it&#39;s fixed for the first loop you record where it&#39;s most n=
oticeable.<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Honestly, most the bells and whistels on the 300 are overkill for me.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
As yet we know very little about the RC-300, until the manual&#39;s availab=
le and until find out whether it<br>
actually *does* the claimed features. <br>
<br>
Why not the Rang then?<br>
<br>
Also check out the Vox VDL-1<br>
2 synced loops, one a multiple of the other,<br>
Undo/Redo on both loops,<br>
and a nice low price.<br><font color=3D"#888888">
<br>
andy butler<br>
<br>
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http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/110915.html

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem,
PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet.  WDIY also broadcasts
in Digital HD at 88.1 FM.

                 Show #754                September 15, 2011.

RECAP:
On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Robert Carty.  The
Featured CD at Midnight was "Sun Tales" on Deep Sky Music.
http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#sep

I also played music by one of the artists who will play at the
Soundscapes Concert Series on Sunday, October 2.  See the Events Page
for details.
http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/events.html


PLAYLIST:

11:04 pm
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Kevin Braheny        Starflight 1 *       Galaxies (Hearts of Space)
Surface 10           Perahn               In Vitro Tide (DiN)
Numina               The Shadow of a Day  Dawn of Obscurity (Numinamusic
                                             Recordings)
The Elecetric Golem  What Watson Doesn't  Sky Snails (Periphery)
                        Know
Onewayness           Blue Star Return     Blue Star Is Freezing
                                             (Onomastic)
Max Corbacho         Mandala              Lost Links IrelaxedMACHINERY)
Steve Roach          See Things *         Quiet Music (Projekt)

12:00 am
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Robert Carty         Light Dance          Sun Tales (Deep Sky Music)
Robert Carty         High Tales           Sun Tales (Deep Sky Music)
Robert Carty         Rhythm of Pulse      Sun Tales (Deep Sky Music)
Robert Carty         Heart Light          Sun Tales (Deep Sky Music)
Robert Carty         The Open Shining     Sun Tales (Deep Sky Music)
                        Mind
Robert Carty         Sun Dust             Sun Tales (Deep Sky Music)
Robert Carty         Star Beams of Dreams Sun Tales (Deep Sky Music)
Robert Carty         Lost In Suntales     Sun Tales (Deep Sky Music)

1:00 am

  * = excerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
++ = Advance CDR from Artist
-- = Background music under interview


NEXT SHOW:
On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on
Robert Carty.  The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Starlight Volume 1"
on Deep Sky Music.

Bill
========================================================================
Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show,
Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in
Trexlertown and Fogelsville.  WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio
on 88.1 FM.
Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info
Listen to WDIY on-line.

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Hi,

I just passed by a place to pick up my Roland GR-55 but unfortunately
the GK cable was missing (the 13 pin cable to plug into the mic on the
instrument). One person I was talking to here says he did not get a GK
cable either with his GR-55. I thought it would come with the GR-55
packaged because the PDF manual says so. Oh well... I can't use it now
until I schedule a trip to a local music store. Isn't that quite bad
of Roland?

Will see if I can leave a little bit earlier tomorrow morning and pass
by a music store in the city I am right now.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub

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daniel wrote:
> Regarding that glitch and the firmware update, where do you find that?

downloadable from the Roland websites,

...but should presumably be already installed in newer RC-50 

andy

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Per Boysen wrote:
>
> I just passed by a place to pick up my Roland GR-55 but unfortunately
> the GK cable was missing (the 13 pin cable to plug into the mic on the
> instrument). One person I was talking to here says he did not get a GK
> cable either with his GR-55. I thought it would come with the GR-55
> packaged because the PDF manual says so.

Per,

Almost every piece of VG/GR-based gear I've gotten has included at least 
one 13-pin cable (even second hand ones; usually someone selling their 
gear used even throws one in for free).  Every new piece has had one 
thrown in.

I'd contact the local Roland rep about this immediately.

I've heard a few reports of this elsewhere.  Every once in a blue moon, 
it's simply a QC oversight.  In many cases, however, it's due to an 
unscrupulous retailer or distributor who is separating the cable from 
the gear, then resealing the box.  They then sell the cable for an extra 
$50 or so off the top -- pure profit.

If there are other reports of this sort of thing occurring, I'd 
definitely run it up to the Roland rep.  There's a very good chance that 
somebody in the supply chain is skimming.

If Roland says you should get a free 13-pin cable, contact Roland and 
get it.  Even if you have to get a new cable yourself in the meantime, 
get the replacement so that you have a backup.

	-m-

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here is the direct link:
http://www.rolandconnect.com/product.php?p=rc-300

i honestly as i look at that thing , and think for me, wow, it's too
complicated.
as i've been playing w/ my pigtronix echolution for the last few months and
realize that all i do is:
turn it on
play
mess w/ the time knob
if i like something switch it into loop mode
mess w/ time knob more.
on and on....

the funny thing that i've discovered in the last 2 weeks on my echolution
is: THE REVERSE MODE
also a little switch.
been having fun w/ that.

will say that rc300 seems light yrs from when i had my original rc20 a few
yrs ago....

i guess for me i still don' t like to have things at my feet...i'm not very
good w/ the tap dancing thing i guess...oh well....

maybe some co. in the future will make a looper in the shape of the starship
enterprise, just for fun.....
i think i just feel OLD & DUMB!!!!
s---

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here is the direct link:<br><a href=3D"http://www.rolandconnect.com/product=
.php?p=3Drc-300">http://www.rolandconnect.com/product.php?p=3Drc-300</a><br=
><br>i honestly as i look at that thing , and think for me, wow, it&#39;s t=
oo complicated.<br>
as i&#39;ve been playing w/ my pigtronix echolution for the last few months=
 and realize that all i do is:<br>turn it on<br>play<br>mess w/ the time kn=
ob<br>if i like something switch it into loop mode<br>mess w/ time knob mor=
e.<br>
on and on....<br><br>the funny thing that i&#39;ve discovered in the last 2=
 weeks on my echolution is: THE REVERSE MODE<br>also a little switch.<br>be=
en having fun w/ that.<br><br>will say that rc300 seems light yrs from when=
 i had my original rc20 a few yrs ago....<br>
<br>i guess for me i still don&#39; t like to have things at my feet...i&#3=
9;m not very good w/ the tap dancing thing i guess...oh well....<br><br>may=
be some co. in the future will make a looper in the shape of the starship e=
nterprise, just for fun.....<br>
i think i just feel OLD &amp; DUMB!!!!<br>s---<br>

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Thanks, Dustie. Good to get some perspective on this. I just found a
cable locally here that I will buy tomorrow morning at a local music
store. Learning the GR-55 is second priority now since I just picked
up a composing engagement that I want to do max-time, but it's great
anyway to have a cable so I can fiddle on the GR at free time now and
then.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub



On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Dust Bunnies <mech@m3ch.net> wrote:
> Per Boysen wrote:
>>
>> I just passed by a place to pick up my Roland GR-55 but unfortunately
>> the GK cable was missing (the 13 pin cable to plug into the mic on the
>> instrument). One person I was talking to here says he did not get a GK
>> cable either with his GR-55. I thought it would come with the GR-55
>> packaged because the PDF manual says so.
>
> Per,
>
> Almost every piece of VG/GR-based gear I've gotten has included at least =
one
> 13-pin cable (even second hand ones; usually someone selling their gear u=
sed
> even throws one in for free). =C2=A0Every new piece has had one thrown in=
.
>
> I'd contact the local Roland rep about this immediately.
>
> I've heard a few reports of this elsewhere. =C2=A0Every once in a blue mo=
on, it's
> simply a QC oversight. =C2=A0In many cases, however, it's due to an unscr=
upulous
> retailer or distributor who is separating the cable from the gear, then
> resealing the box. =C2=A0They then sell the cable for an extra $50 or so =
off the
> top -- pure profit.
>
> If there are other reports of this sort of thing occurring, I'd definitel=
y
> run it up to the Roland rep. =C2=A0There's a very good chance that somebo=
dy in
> the supply chain is skimming.
>
> If Roland says you should get a free 13-pin cable, contact Roland and get
> it. =C2=A0Even if you have to get a new cable yourself in the meantime, g=
et the
> replacement so that you have a backup.
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-m-
>
>

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sweet thanks. i got mine within the first year or so of them coming out and
i def have the gap. poo.

thanks again
daniel

www.iamdanielharris.com

On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 10:42 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>wrote:

> daniel wrote:
>
>> Regarding that glitch and the firmware update, where do you find that?
>>
>
> downloadable from the Roland websites,
>
> ...but should presumably be already installed in newer RC-50
> andy
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sweet thanks. i got mine within the first year or so of them coming out and=
 i def have the gap. poo. <br><br>thanks again<br>daniel<br><br><a href=3D"=
http://www.iamdanielharris.com">www.iamdanielharris.com</a> <br><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote">
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 10:42 AM, andy butler <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk">akbutler@tiscali.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> wr=
ote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border=
-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
daniel wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Regarding that glitch and the firmware update, where do you find that?<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
downloadable from the Roland websites,<br>
<br>
...but should presumably be already installed in newer RC-50 <br><font colo=
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andy<br>
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I agree, mine came with cable and I did not get the pickup
 On Sep 16, 2011 1:58 PM, "Per Boysen" <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, Dustie. Good to get some perspective on this. I just found a
> cable locally here that I will buy tomorrow morning at a local music
> store. Learning the GR-55 is second priority now since I just picked
> up a composing engagement that I want to do max-time, but it's great
> anyway to have a cable so I can fiddle on the GR at free time now and
> then.
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> www.looproom.com internet music hub
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Dust Bunnies <mech@m3ch.net> wrote:
>> Per Boysen wrote:
>>>
>>> I just passed by a place to pick up my Roland GR-55 but unfortunately
>>> the GK cable was missing (the 13 pin cable to plug into the mic on the
>>> instrument). One person I was talking to here says he did not get a GK
>>> cable either with his GR-55. I thought it would come with the GR-55
>>> packaged because the PDF manual says so.
>>
>> Per,
>>
>> Almost every piece of VG/GR-based gear I've gotten has included at least
one
>> 13-pin cable (even second hand ones; usually someone selling their gear
used
>> even throws one in for free).  Every new piece has had one thrown in.
>>
>> I'd contact the local Roland rep about this immediately.
>>
>> I've heard a few reports of this elsewhere.  Every once in a blue moon,
it's
>> simply a QC oversight.  In many cases, however, it's due to an
unscrupulous
>> retailer or distributor who is separating the cable from the gear, then
>> resealing the box.  They then sell the cable for an extra $50 or so off
the
>> top -- pure profit.
>>
>> If there are other reports of this sort of thing occurring, I'd
definitely
>> run it up to the Roland rep.  There's a very good chance that somebody in
>> the supply chain is skimming.
>>
>> If Roland says you should get a free 13-pin cable, contact Roland and get
>> it.  Even if you have to get a new cable yourself in the meantime, get
the
>> replacement so that you have a backup.
>>
>>        -m-
>>
>>
>

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<p>I agree, mine came with cable and I did not get the pickup<br>
</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep 16, 2011 1:58 PM, &quot;Per Boysen&quot; =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboysen@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrot=
e:<br type=3D"attribution">&gt; Thanks, Dustie. Good to get some perspectiv=
e on this. I just found a<br>
&gt; cable locally here that I will buy tomorrow morning at a local music<b=
r>&gt; store. Learning the GR-55 is second priority now since I just picked=
<br>&gt; up a composing engagement that I want to do max-time, but it&#39;s=
 great<br>
&gt; anyway to have a cable so I can fiddle on the GR at free time now and<=
br>&gt; then.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Greetings from Sweden<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Per B=
oysen<br>&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.boysen.se">www.boysen.se</a><br>&gt; <a=
 href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com">www.perboysen.com</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.looproom.com">www.looproom.com</a> internet musi=
c hub<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 7:36 PM, D=
ust Bunnies &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mech@m3ch.net">mech@m3ch.net</a>&gt; wrot=
e:<br>
&gt;&gt; Per Boysen wrote:<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; I just passed by=
 a place to pick up my Roland GR-55 but unfortunately<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; the G=
K cable was missing (the 13 pin cable to plug into the mic on the<br>&gt;&g=
t;&gt; instrument). One person I was talking to here says he did not get a =
GK<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; cable either with his GR-55. I thought it would come with the =
GR-55<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; packaged because the PDF manual says so.<br>&gt;&gt;<=
br>&gt;&gt; Per,<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; Almost every piece of VG/GR-based =
gear I&#39;ve gotten has included at least one<br>
&gt;&gt; 13-pin cable (even second hand ones; usually someone selling their=
 gear used<br>&gt;&gt; even throws one in for free). =A0Every new piece has=
 had one thrown in.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; I&#39;d contact the local Rolan=
d rep about this immediately.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; I&#39;ve heard a few reports of this elsewhere. =A0Eve=
ry once in a blue moon, it&#39;s<br>&gt;&gt; simply a QC oversight. =A0In m=
any cases, however, it&#39;s due to an unscrupulous<br>&gt;&gt; retailer or=
 distributor who is separating the cable from the gear, then<br>
&gt;&gt; resealing the box. =A0They then sell the cable for an extra $50 or=
 so off the<br>&gt;&gt; top -- pure profit.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; If ther=
e are other reports of this sort of thing occurring, I&#39;d definitely<br>
&gt;&gt; run it up to the Roland rep. =A0There&#39;s a very good chance tha=
t somebody in<br>&gt;&gt; the supply chain is skimming.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;=
&gt; If Roland says you should get a free 13-pin cable, contact Roland and =
get<br>
&gt;&gt; it. =A0Even if you have to get a new cable yourself in the meantim=
e, get the<br>&gt;&gt; replacement so that you have a backup.<br>&gt;&gt;<b=
r>&gt;&gt; =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-m-<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt; <br></div>

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On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 3:23 AM, Thomas Wegmann <theweg@gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree, mine came with cable and I did not get the pickup


I guess you have ordered the GK-55 only, without the pickup? Because
it is sold by to optional packages: with or without the GK-3 pickup.
Well, this proves that it is just a case of sloppy organizing seems to
be a rule with big organizations where different people take care of
different logistic parts. However, I found a cable here in the city I
will stay until Tuesday and will pick it up in an hour on the way to a
studio.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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Ready to make the move but looking used. Just missed one on
thegearpage.netfor $300.  Any leads for where to find one?

Thanks!

Sent from my phone,

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<p>Ready to make the move but looking used. Just missed one on <a href=3D"h=
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<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>Sent from my phone,</p>
<p>Mike</p>

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Just thought of this....any good loopers for live performance that have good
compatability with home recording?  Right now I am looking live use first,
but would like something easy to use with aninterface and daw for demo
recording.  Thanks.

Sent from my phone,

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This made it to the front page of Buzzfeed last month.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izrL7pBdkaw

First time I've spotted looping there.

Some tuneness for the weekend.


cheers

BobC


http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j

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On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Mike Fugazzi <mikefugazzi@gmail.com> wrote=
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> Just thought of this....any good loopers for live performance that have g=
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> compatability with home recording?=C2=A0 Right now I am looking live use =
first,
> but would like something easy to use with aninterface and daw for demo
> recording.=C2=A0 Thanks.


You might already know - although you didn't mention it in the post,
but Ableton Live has a plugin called Looper. Any other software looper
would do fine though. Like Mobius, Augustus Loop or SooperLooper. If
using them as plugin under Live you can record the audio as audio
clips in Live. If running a looping plugin under host with less great
recording capabilities you can use a software that snags the stream
somewhere in the computer/software (for Mac I use Auduio Hijack Pro
for this but there is a second one out there too. For Windows I don't
know the corresponding app, but there must be some). If you want to
record multiple outputs from the looper a good host is Plogue Bidule;
it is cheap, extremely configurable and has an Audio File Recorder
that is easy to set up to render one file for each looper output. If
using the looper Mobius there is a couple of alternative ways to save
the loops created during a performance to disc after you have stopped
playing. Usually I use the Save Project method in Mobius to save every
loop as a file. On a few occasions I've tried Mobius setting to even
save every layer of every loop as a separate audio file - but this
creates so many files that you will need a lot of time at hand as well
as an out-of-this-world patience to pick the loops to throw into the
DAW for mixing.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub

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>Greetings from Sweden

So first you say you are picking up A GK cable and then off to the studio,
and can't try out the GR55 till later, next you are answering LD mails...
stop starring at that computer Boysen and get playing with the f***ing
guitar synth... some of us wanna know what you think... OK?

Good

Greetings from Norway

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Mike! Why do you need looper for home recording? You can just record
sample to DAW and loop it. It'll be faster and easier. IMHO whole
greatnes of livelooping is that it's actually live. For home you can
make much better arrangement than using loops (using different chord
progressions, drums, VSTi etc.).

2011/9/17 Mike Fugazzi <mikefugazzi@gmail.com>:
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> recording.=A0 Thanks.
>
> Sent from my phone,
>
> Mike



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Whoa, another harmonica heavyweight!
It's getting hot in here for harp players . . .

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Mike! Why do you need looper for home recording? You can just record
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have
good
> compatability with home recording?=A0 Right now I am looking live use =
first,
> but would like something easy to use with aninterface and daw for demo
> recording.=A0 Thanks.
>
> Sent from my phone,
>
> Mike



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Hey, Boris!

I try to rehearse and record demos at home..TRYING.  I just take a lineout
from my M13 at this point straight to my interface, but I thought maybe some
of these newer ones were "meant" to do that. Really, the M13 output is meant
to go to a guitar.

Awesome to see you on here!
----------
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Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/MikeFugazziMusic>
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On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Boris Plotnikov <ploboris@gmail.com> wrote:

> Mike! Why do you need looper for home recording? You can just record
> sample to DAW and loop it. It'll be faster and easier. IMHO whole
> greatnes of livelooping is that it's actually live. For home you can
> make much better arrangement than using loops (using different chord
> progressions, drums, VSTi etc.).
>
> 2011/9/17 Mike Fugazzi <mikefugazzi@gmail.com>:
> > Just thought of this....any good loopers for live performance that have
> good
> > compatability with home recording?  Right now I am looking live use
> first,
> > but would like something easy to use with aninterface and daw for demo
> > recording.  Thanks.
> >
> > Sent from my phone,
> >
> > Mike
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks, Boris Plotnikov
>
>

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Hey, Boris!<br><br>I try to rehearse and record demos at home..TRYING.=A0 I=
 just take a lineout from my M13 at this point straight to my interface, bu=
t I thought maybe some of these newer ones were &quot;meant&quot; to do tha=
t. Really, the M13 output is meant to go to a guitar.<br>

<br>Awesome to see you on here!<br clear=3D"all">----------<br>Mike Fugazzi=
<br>vocals/harmonica<br><a href=3D"http://www.mikefugazzi.com" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://www.mikefugazzi.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.facebook.com/=
MikeFugazziMusic" target=3D"_blank">Facebook</a><br>

<a href=3D"http://www.mikefugazzi.com/fr_customharmonicas.cfm" target=3D"_b=
lank">Quicksilver Custom Harmonicas </a><br><br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Boris P=
lotnikov <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ploboris@gmail.com">plobor=
is@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">

Mike! Why do you need looper for home recording? You can just record<br>
sample to DAW and loop it. It&#39;ll be faster and easier. IMHO whole<br>
greatnes of livelooping is that it&#39;s actually live. For home you can<br=
>
make much better arrangement than using loops (using different chord<br>
progressions, drums, VSTi etc.).<br>
<br>
2011/9/17 Mike Fugazzi &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mikefugazzi@gmail.com">mikefug=
azzi@gmail.com</a>&gt;:<br>
&gt; Just thought of this....any good loopers for live performance that hav=
e good<br>
&gt; compatability with home recording?=A0 Right now I am looking live use =
first,<br>
&gt; but would like something easy to use with aninterface and daw for demo=
<br>
&gt; recording.=A0 Thanks.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Sent from my phone,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Mike<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
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<br>
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That's because no one wants to play in bands with us, lol.
----------
Mike Fugazzi
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Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/MikeFugazziMusic>
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<http://www.mikefugazzi.com/fr_customharmonicas.cfm>



On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Clayton Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net> wrote:

> Whoa, another harmonica heavyweight!
> It's getting hot in here for harp players . . .
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Boris Plotnikov [mailto:ploboris@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 12:08 PM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: Best looper for recording?
>
> Mike! Why do you need looper for home recording? You can just record
> sample to DAW and loop it. It'll be faster and easier. IMHO whole
> greatnes of livelooping is that it's actually live. For home you can
> make much better arrangement than using loops (using different chord
> progressions, drums, VSTi etc.).
>
> 2011/9/17 Mike Fugazzi <mikefugazzi@gmail.com>:
> > Just thought of this....any good loopers for live performance that have
> good
> > compatability with home recording?  Right now I am looking live use
> first,
> > but would like something easy to use with aninterface and daw for demo
> > recording.  Thanks.
> >
> > Sent from my phone,
> >
> > Mike
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks, Boris Plotnikov
>
>

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That&#39;s because no one wants to play in bands with us, lol.<br clear=3D"=
all">----------<br>Mike Fugazzi<br>vocals/harmonica<br><a href=3D"http://ww=
w.mikefugazzi.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.mikefugazzi.com</a><br><a h=
ref=3D"http://www.facebook.com/MikeFugazziMusic" target=3D"_blank">Facebook=
</a><br>

<a href=3D"http://www.mikefugazzi.com/fr_customharmonicas.cfm" target=3D"_b=
lank">Quicksilver Custom Harmonicas </a><br><br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Clayton=
 Gary Lehmann <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hqr@cox.net">hqr@cox.=
net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">

Whoa, another harmonica heavyweight!<br>
It&#39;s getting hot in here for harp players . . .<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Boris Plotnikov [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:ploboris@gmail.com">plobori=
s@gmail.com</a>]<br>
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 12:08 PM<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@=
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Subject: Re: Best looper for recording?<br>
<br>
Mike! Why do you need looper for home recording? You can just record<br>
sample to DAW and loop it. It&#39;ll be faster and easier. IMHO whole<br>
greatnes of livelooping is that it&#39;s actually live. For home you can<br=
>
make much better arrangement than using loops (using different chord<br>
progressions, drums, VSTi etc.).<br>
<br>
2011/9/17 Mike Fugazzi &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mikefugazzi@gmail.com">mikefug=
azzi@gmail.com</a>&gt;:<br>
&gt; Just thought of this....any good loopers for live performance that hav=
e<br>
good<br>
&gt; compatability with home recording?=A0 Right now I am looking live use =
first,<br>
&gt; but would like something easy to use with aninterface and daw for demo=
<br>
&gt; recording.=A0 Thanks.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Sent from my phone,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Mike<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
<br>
<br>
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<br>
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Hello,

This is possibly a very silly question but since I try to think about
midi just enough to make things work, I'm not always confident in my
capacities with the stuff.

I have a MOTU 828 that has no midi connection and I'm trying to
control things in Live with the FCB 1010 (or will be).  I thought I
could run the Midi out of the FCB to a Berhringer rotary control that
has Midi IN ports and runs via USB to get the signal into the
computer.  Is there any reason this shouldn't work that people can
think of?  I'm running a MAC so I'm not sure of a MIDI OX equivalent
here to see if things are coming in.

Some days I feel on top of this stuff and days I feel very much under
it all.  Any guesses where I am this week?

Thanks,

Kevin

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Kevin,

1. basically, what you describe works fine (I believe you're talking 
about the BCR2000 for the rotary controller). The BCR2000 appears in 
your application as two separate MIDI INs and three separate MIDI OUTs 
(one of each being the BCR2000 itself). I also believe you can instruct 
the BCR2000 to merge things somehow, but not sure about this - rtfm.

2. Everything I said is in theory also true for Macs - however, I've 
never tried that.

            Rainer

Am 18.09.2011 00:51, schrieb Kevin Cheli-Colando:
> Hello,
>
> This is possibly a very silly question but since I try to think about
> midi just enough to make things work, I'm not always confident in my
> capacities with the stuff.
>
> I have a MOTU 828 that has no midi connection and I'm trying to
> control things in Live with the FCB 1010 (or will be).  I thought I
> could run the Midi out of the FCB to a Berhringer rotary control that
> has Midi IN ports and runs via USB to get the signal into the
> computer.  Is there any reason this shouldn't work that people can
> think of?  I'm running a MAC so I'm not sure of a MIDI OX equivalent
> here to see if things are coming in.
>
> Some days I feel on top of this stuff and days I feel very much under
> it all.  Any guesses where I am this week?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin
>


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On Sep 17, 2011, at 3:51 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote:

>  I'm running a MAC so I'm not sure of a MIDI OX equivalent
> here to see if things are coming in.


I have found
http://www.snoize.com/MIDIMonitor/
helpful in troublehooting MIDI for Mac.


BobC


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midi monitor for mac, is probably what you are after... I dont know what the
Rotary Control is, but usually a usb will be sending in midi... so you
should be ok...

On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 12:51 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando
<billowhead@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hello,
>
> This is possibly a very silly question but since I try to think about
> midi just enough to make things work, I'm not always confident in my
> capacities with the stuff.
>
> I have a MOTU 828 that has no midi connection and I'm trying to
> control things in Live with the FCB 1010 (or will be).  I thought I
> could run the Midi out of the FCB to a Berhringer rotary control that
> has Midi IN ports and runs via USB to get the signal into the
> computer.  Is there any reason this shouldn't work that people can
> think of?  I'm running a MAC so I'm not sure of a MIDI OX equivalent
> here to see if things are coming in.
>
> Some days I feel on top of this stuff and days I feel very much under
> it all.  Any guesses where I am this week?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin
>
> --
> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.
>
> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>
> Sound and Vision:  http://www.minds-eye.org
> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos
>
>


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midi monitor for mac, is probably what you are after... I dont know what th=
e Rotary Control is, but usually a usb will be sending in midi... so you sh=
ould be ok...<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 12:=
51 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:billowhe=
ad@gmail.com">billowhead@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Hello,<br>
<br>
This is possibly a very silly question but since I try to think about<br>
midi just enough to make things work, I&#39;m not always confident in my<br=
>
capacities with the stuff.<br>
<br>
I have a MOTU 828 that has no midi connection and I&#39;m trying to<br>
control things in Live with the FCB 1010 (or will be). =A0I thought I<br>
could run the Midi out of the FCB to a Berhringer rotary control that<br>
has Midi IN ports and runs via USB to get the signal into the<br>
computer. =A0Is there any reason this shouldn&#39;t work that people can<br=
>
think of? =A0I&#39;m running a MAC so I&#39;m not sure of a MIDI OX equival=
ent<br>
here to see if things are coming in.<br>
<br>
Some days I feel on top of this stuff and days I feel very much under<br>
it all. =A0Any guesses where I am this week?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Kevin<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
--<br>
Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a<br>
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.<=
br>
<br>
- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)<br>
<br>
Sound and Vision:=A0 <a href=3D"http://www.minds-eye.org" target=3D"_blank"=
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Or MIDI Pipe, as well? http://web.mac.com/nicowald/SubtleSoft/MidiPipe.html

http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin
http://audiozoloft.com
http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/



On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 5:18 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wr=
ote:
> midi monitor for mac, is probably what you are after... I dont know what =
the
> Rotary Control is, but usually a usb will be sending in midi... so you
> should be ok...
>
> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 12:51 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.c=
om>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> This is possibly a very silly question but since I try to think about
>> midi just enough to make things work, I'm not always confident in my
>> capacities with the stuff.
>>
>> I have a MOTU 828 that has no midi connection and I'm trying to
>> control things in Live with the FCB 1010 (or will be). =A0I thought I
>> could run the Midi out of the FCB to a Berhringer rotary control that
>> has Midi IN ports and runs via USB to get the signal into the
>> computer. =A0Is there any reason this shouldn't work that people can
>> think of? =A0I'm running a MAC so I'm not sure of a MIDI OX equivalent
>> here to see if things are coming in.
>>
>> Some days I feel on top of this stuff and days I feel very much under
>> it all. =A0Any guesses where I am this week?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>> --
>> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
>> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all troubl=
e.
>>
>> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>>
>> Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org
>> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Mark Francombe
> www.markfrancombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no
> twitter @markfrancombe
>

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Interesting... I found myself unexpectedly shocked by this seemingly =
innocuous point of view.=20

Technically, I understand just using cycle-record within a DAW as the =
simple way to do things of course. (Lord knows my life would have been =
easier these last few years and I would have made more music for sure.) =
And yet, the idea of using that method as the only or main method =
is---well, so uncompelling as to be a shock to imagine. Sure, it works =
in a pinch, but what of that feeling that comes from the juggling act / =
immediacy-of-conversation-with-the-muse where one note suggests the next =
as if you're thinking it but it's out-loud in real time?

There's a time for each style but they are not the same. Cycle record is =
to limited to loose one's self in the moment and take it to unexpected =
places. l guess I see recording as enhancing what one does live but not =
replacing it. That "live" process itself is the goal for me, regardless =
of the presence of an audience. In fact, in many ways the audience just =
gets in the way.=20

Don't listen to me though, I've hardly created anything new since I =
started trying to do everything in the box and that's not fulfilling =
either.=20

---Christopher


On Sep 17, 2011, at 12:08 PM, Boris Plotnikov wrote:

> Mike! Why do you need looper for home recording? You can just record
> sample to DAW and loop it. It'll be faster and easier. IMHO whole
> greatnes of livelooping is that it's actually live. For home you can
> make much better arrangement than using loops (using different chord
> progressions, drums, VSTi etc.).
>=20
> 2011/9/17 Mike Fugazzi <mikefugazzi@gmail.com>:
>> Just thought of this....any good loopers for live performance that =
have good
>> compatability with home recording?  Right now I am looking live use =
first,
>> but would like something easy to use with aninterface and daw for =
demo
>> recording.  Thanks.
>>=20
>> Sent from my phone,
>>=20
>> Mike
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> Thanks, Boris Plotnikov
>=20

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Mike Fugazzi wrote:

> I try to rehearse and record demos at home..TRYING.  I just take a 
> lineout from my M13 at this point straight to my interface, but I 
> thought maybe some of these newer ones were "meant" to do that. Really, 
> the M13 output is meant to go to a guitar.

M13 to audio interface *should* work fine.
(low impedance o/p)

If not, then get a better interface, doesn't need to have a specialised
instrument input either.

Boris Plotnikov wrote:
> Mike! Why do you need looper for home recording? You can just record
> sample to DAW and loop it. It'll be faster and easier.

...but faster and easier is for accountants

> IMHO whole
> greatnes of livelooping is that it's actually live.

exactly

> For home you can
> make much better arrangement than using loops (using different chord
> progressions, drums, VSTi etc.).

won't have the energy and life of a live looping performance...
....or at least not without time and effort in an equivalent amount.

andy butler
ps.
it's great to see the harmonica challenge the predominance of the guitar :-)

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You won't need midi ox or midi pipe. Just install the drivers for the behrin=
ger if it has any and then go to midi preferences in live and select the beh=
ringer. Easy.=20

Sent from my iPod

On 18 Sep 2011, at 00:42, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:

> Or MIDI Pipe, as well? http://web.mac.com/nicowald/SubtleSoft/MidiPipe.htm=
l
>=20
> http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin
> http://audiozoloft.com
> http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 5:18 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> w=
rote:
>> midi monitor for mac, is probably what you are after... I dont know what t=
he
>> Rotary Control is, but usually a usb will be sending in midi... so you
>> should be ok...
>>=20
>> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 12:51 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.c=
om>
>> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> Hello,
>>>=20
>>> This is possibly a very silly question but since I try to think about
>>> midi just enough to make things work, I'm not always confident in my
>>> capacities with the stuff.
>>>=20
>>> I have a MOTU 828 that has no midi connection and I'm trying to
>>> control things in Live with the FCB 1010 (or will be).  I thought I
>>> could run the Midi out of the FCB to a Berhringer rotary control that
>>> has Midi IN ports and runs via USB to get the signal into the
>>> computer.  Is there any reason this shouldn't work that people can
>>> think of?  I'm running a MAC so I'm not sure of a MIDI OX equivalent
>>> here to see if things are coming in.
>>>=20
>>> Some days I feel on top of this stuff and days I feel very much under
>>> it all.  Any guesses where I am this week?
>>>=20
>>> Thanks,
>>>=20
>>> Kevin
>>>=20
>>> --
>>> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
>>> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all troubl=
e.
>>>=20
>>> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>>>=20
>>> Sound and Vision:  http://www.minds-eye.org
>>> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos
>>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> --
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>> www.markfrancombe.com
>> www.ordoabkhao.com
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On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 12:51 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando
<billowhead@gmail.com> wrote:
> =C2=A0I thought I
> could run the Midi out of the FCB to a Berhringer rotary control that
> has Midi IN ports and runs via USB to get the signal into the
> computer. =C2=A0Is there any reason this shouldn't work that people can
> think of?


Well, I don't know about a MIDI USB Interface called Behringer Rotary
Control... but generally it should shuffle external MIDI into OS X if
it has a MIDI jack input and connects to the puter by USB. To answer
your question: yes, there are many possible errors how you set up the
MIDI routing inside the computer. For example, if a MIDI
module/application is set to listen to a specific one of the available
16 MIDI channels it won't detect MIDI sent over another MIDI channel.
Some gear let you use MIDI stuff set to "All Channels" and I often use
that just to make it simpler.


> I'm running a MAC so I'm not sure of a MIDI OX equivalent
> here to see if things are coming in.

Mac OS X has its own MIDI routing system inside the computer's
operating system. To set it up you go into Applications / Utilities
and open up the Audo Midi Setup application. To make MIDI settings you
have to open a window called MIDI Window. But I doubt this will be
needed for just piping external MIDI into Ableton Live. Make sure you
also set up Live's own MIDI preferences correctly.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub

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Boris Plotnikov wrote:

> Mike! Why do you need looper for home recording? You can just record
>> sample to DAW and loop it. It'll be faster and easier.
>>
>
> ...but faster and easier is for accountants
>
>  IMHO whole
>> greatnes of livelooping is that it's actually live.
>>
>
> exactly
> ps.
> it's great to see the harmonica challenge the predominance of the guitar
> :-)
>
>
Surely this is the classic meeting of the two worlds of live looping?

Those who loop to re-create a track live, alone. and those who loop because
its looping and it sounds different from "playing".
Or the recordists verses the instrumentalists.

I dont think either approach is wrong from a live looping point of view,
and but lets face it, recording a part and then looping in the DAW, is not
live looping thats just current NORAML recording techniques!!! I sure as
hell dont play all the ay through a song anymore.. I just record the bits I
need to put the track together.

BUT... if Im recording live looping, ite a different affair altogether, THEN
the live looping actually MAKES the track, or creates the sound at least, so
then I would play the whole track and record the whole thing. I MIGHT then
add stuff in the DAW, like drums or strings or effects, and they I will use
conventional recording techniques, like looping a bit on the timeline...
Just cos Im a live looper dosnt mean I cant use other techniques too, its
just not live looping.

So, Mike you have to ask yourself, what kind am I?
If you wanna create the whole dame thing live, then any quality soundcard
and recording software would do for you surely (Ill put in a word for
Reaper, just because) But if you wanna create all things live, WITH the
ability to mix afterwards, then you need lots of channel Ins (this is what I
WOULD LIKE, but dont have).
Or you can do what I do, record bits live looped and bits recorded and
looped...

Its a recording!!! the trick is to get the audio out the other end, so you
like the sound of it, not that you do it without "cheating" whatever that
is...

Was it Black Sabbath who put, "there are no synthesisers on this album"...?
Stupid.. Idiots...

And was it Jan Hammer (yikes) who put "there are no guitars on this album" a
few years later.. Ha ha Genius!!

Live, I think there is such a thing as live looping, but surely at home
theres just recording... whatever techniques you have to use to get the
sound you need (admittedly mine is live looping) you should use...

PS; This is not really directed at Mike, dont think he needs such prosaic
advice.. its just usual rambling from Mark..

Oh and I agree with Andy "Hurrah for the Harmonica!"

Mark



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Boris Plotnikov wrote:<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class=3D"im=
"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:=
1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


Mike! Why do you need looper for home recording? You can just record<br>
sample to DAW and loop it. It&#39;ll be faster and easier.<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
...but faster and easier is for accountants<div class=3D"im"><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
IMHO whole<br>
greatnes of livelooping is that it&#39;s actually live.<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
exactly<font color=3D"#888888"><br></font>
ps.<br>
it&#39;s great to see the harmonica challenge the predominance of the guita=
r :-)<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br>Surely this is the classic meeting of the two worlds=
 of live looping?<br><br>Those who loop to re-create a track live, alone. a=
nd those who loop because its looping and it sounds different from &quot;pl=
aying&quot;.<br>

Or the recordists verses the instrumentalists.<br><br>I dont think either a=
pproach is wrong from a live looping point of view,=A0 and but lets face it=
, recording a part and then looping in the DAW, is not live looping thats j=
ust current NORAML recording techniques!!! I sure as hell dont play all the=
 ay through a song anymore.. I just record the bits I need to put the track=
 together.<br>

<br>BUT... if Im recording live looping, ite a different affair altogether,=
 THEN the live looping actually MAKES the track, or creates the sound at le=
ast, so then I would play the whole track and record the whole thing. I MIG=
HT then add stuff in the DAW, like drums or strings or effects, and they I =
will use conventional recording techniques, like looping a bit on the timel=
ine... Just cos Im a live looper dosnt mean I cant use other techniques too=
, its just not live looping.<br>

<br>So, Mike you have to ask yourself, what kind am I?<br>If you wanna crea=
te the whole dame thing live, then any quality soundcard and recording soft=
ware would do for you surely (Ill put in a word for Reaper, just because) B=
ut if you wanna create all things live, WITH the ability to mix afterwards,=
 then you need lots of channel Ins (this is what I WOULD LIKE, but dont hav=
e).<br>

Or you can do what I do, record bits live looped and bits recorded and loop=
ed... <br><br>Its a recording!!! the trick is to get the audio out the othe=
r end, so you like the sound of it, not that you do it without &quot;cheati=
ng&quot; whatever that is... <br>

<br>Was it Black Sabbath who put, &quot;there are no synthesisers on this a=
lbum&quot;...? Stupid.. Idiots... <br><br>And was it Jan Hammer (yikes) who=
 put &quot;there are no guitars on this album&quot; a few years later.. Ha =
ha Genius!!<br>

<br>Live, I think there is such a thing as live looping, but surely at home=
 theres just recording... whatever techniques you have to use to get the so=
und you need (admittedly mine is live looping) you should use...<br><br>

PS; This is not really directed at Mike, dont think he needs such prosaic a=
dvice.. its just usual rambling from Mark..<br><br>Oh and I agree with Andy=
 &quot;Hurrah for the Harmonica!&quot;<br><br>Mark<br><br><br><br>-- <br>

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_blank">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)">

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t=3D"_blank">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)"><a st=
yle=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" target=3D=
"_blank">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)">

<a style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" href=3D"http://www.looop.no/" target=3D"_=
blank">http://www.looop.no</a><br>twitter @markfrancombe</font><br>

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i use a midi footcontroller > midi cable > control surface > usb > mac
> ableton - just like you want to do, kevin and it works like a charm

no internal routing needed - like i said before, just install any
drivers that come with the control surface (if it has any) - connect
it all up and then in ableton midi preferences, just hit the
checkboxes next to you control surface in the midi inout section, to
let live know that's what you want to use for midi input.
when you want to assign any of the knobs, faders or buttons to any of
the objects in live, just hit the "midi" button (top right), select
the object in live and then hit your button, or twiddle the knob you
want to assign to it and the link is made. you can control plugins
too, but this involves an extra step and is probably best dealt with
in a future discussion, if you don't manage to figure it out from the
manual.

sim

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Well it seems as though the McNaughton clown show is continuing.  
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changing my email address to be aligned with my website. If anyone  
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andrew@andrewmcnaughton.com.au

The aapt address will be invalid from September 19

Cheers,
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Well it seems as though the McNaughton clown show is continuing.  
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andrew@andrewmcnaughton.com.au

The aapt address will be invalid from September 19

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Andrew
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mark francombe wrote:

> Was it Black Sabbath who put, "there are no synthesisers on this 
> album"...? Stupid.. Idiots...

maybe,
but it was Queen's, first album that had
" and no-body played the synthesiser"

back in 1973 Brian May's multi-tracked and effected guitar
was deemed so unusual in sound that they thought 
it was worth pointing out.



andy

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http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2011/110917.html

The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts.  When I am
at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear
electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix
of other genres.  The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EDT/GMT-4 on
WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet.  I also host Afterglow
every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am.
http://soundscapes.us/afterglow/index.html

                 Show #207                September 17, 2011.

On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music
magazine.  Each contemporary issue comes with a CD.  However, the early
issues came with a cassette.  The cassettes from issues one through
thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic
slip covers with artwork and track details.  Details are at:
http://sequencesmagazine.com

On this program, I preempted Phases 2 and 3 for a special, all
electronic program featuring musicians who will be playing at the Event
Horizons concert series on September 22 and at the Soundscapes Concet
Series on October 2.
http://eventhorizonseries.org
http://soundscapes.us


Phase I/Space:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Twyndyllyngs         Time Wave            Between Space and Time
                                             (electro-music media)
Ombient              Ocean's Edge *       Ocean's Edge (none)
Richard Lainhart     Desert Gardens       Polychromatic Integers
                                             (Periphery)
Richard Lainhart     Walking Slowly       Ten Thousand Shades of Blue
                        Backwards            (XI)
VA [Holle Mangler]   Expanding Fantasy    Sequences No. 15
Eric Wollo and       Mirror Image         Arcadia Borealis (DiN)
   Bernhard Wostheinrich
Eric Wollo and       Hemisphere Nord      Arcadia Borealis (DiN)
   Bernhard Wostheinrich
Dean De Benedictis   Avenging Ilfated     A Lone Reply (Fateless)
                        Visions
Dean De Benedictis   Where Is the         Salvaging the Past (Spotted
                        Northern Snow?       Peccary)
Vic Hennegan         Desert God           Desert God (Space for Music)
Vic Hennegan         Morning Star         Desert God (Space for Music)
Vic Hennegan         Weary Traveler       Desert God (Space for Music)
A Produce and Loren  Intangible           Intangible (Hypnos)
   Nerell
Steve Roach          The Green Place      Quiet Music (Projekt)
                        Part 1 *


Phase II/Eclectic:
Phase III/Progressive Rock:

Pre-empted for Phase 1.


  * = excerpt
++ = Advanced CDR from artist
VA = Various Artists (compilation)

On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that
come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine.  I will
also play music by some of the musicins who will perform at the
Soundscapes Concert Series on Sunday, October 2, at 8:00 pm.
http://soundscapes.us

Bill Fox
========================================================================
Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every
other Saturday at 6:00 am EDT/GMT-4.
Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music.
Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age.
Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases.
Website - http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio
Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line.

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hi there!

anybody knows of such a plug? i need it to follow a visual signal to avoid
leakage issues while recording. it should follow DAW's tempo and it'd be
cool if it were sizeable, so i could see it from the distance. mac user
here.

thanks in advance!
ra=FCl.

p.s. back at LD university! :)

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> anybody knows of such a plug? i need it to follow a visual signal to avoi=
d
> leakage issues while recording. it should follow DAW's tempo and it'd be
> cool if it were sizeable, so i could see it from the distance. mac user
> here.


Not knowing what DAW you are using it is a bit of shot in the dark to
recommend something, but in case you are using Logic you can always
make a screenset with a HUGE counter.

If using Ableton Live you could set up a bunch of dummy clips on a
track, give them different colors and set them to "switch to next
clip" on every sixteenth note... or whatever.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
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thanks todd, per

yes! i'm using logic, so i'll try the HUGE counter first!

thaaaanks!
ra=FCl

2011/9/18 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>

> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Ra=FCl Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > anybody knows of such a plug? i need it to follow a visual signal to
> avoid
> > leakage issues while recording. it should follow DAW's tempo and it'd b=
e
> > cool if it were sizeable, so i could see it from the distance. mac user
> > here.
>
>
> Not knowing what DAW you are using it is a bit of shot in the dark to
> recommend something, but in case you are using Logic you can always
> make a screenset with a HUGE counter.
>
> If using Ableton Live you could set up a bunch of dummy clips on a
> track, give them different colors and set them to "switch to next
> clip" on every sixteenth note... or whatever.
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> www.looproom.com internet music hub
>
>


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thanks todd, per<br><br>yes! i&#39;m using logic, so i&#39;ll try the HUGE =
counter first!<br><br>thaaaanks!<br>ra=FCl<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
">2011/9/18 Per Boysen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gm=
ail.com">perboysen@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class=3D"im">On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 4=
:10 PM, Ra=FCl Bonell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:raul.bonell@gmail.com">raul.bon=
ell@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>

&gt;<br>
&gt; anybody knows of such a plug? i need it to follow a visual signal to a=
void<br>
&gt; leakage issues while recording. it should follow DAW&#39;s tempo and i=
t&#39;d be<br>
&gt; cool if it were sizeable, so i could see it from the distance. mac use=
r<br>
&gt; here.<br>
<br>
<br>
</div>Not knowing what DAW you are using it is a bit of shot in the dark to=
<br>
recommend something, but in case you are using Logic you can always<br>
make a screenset with a HUGE counter.<br>
<br>
If using Ableton Live you could set up a bunch of dummy clips on a<br>
track, give them different colors and set them to &quot;switch to next<br>
clip&quot; on every sixteenth note... or whatever.<br>
<br>
Greetings from Sweden<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Per Boysen<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.boysen.se" target=3D"_blank">www.boysen.se</a><br>
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><br>
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internet music hub<br>
<br>
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ont size=3D"1"> <br>For the strong, they provide a means by which you are e=
asily manipulated.</font><font size=3D"1"><br>In reality, they serve the en=
tertainment needs of others.</font><font size=3D"1"><br>
In the Kimatorium, they are irrelevant.</font> <font size=3D"1"><br><br>Kim=
 Flint</font><br>.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.<br=
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On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 8:31 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
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> So first you say you are picking up A GK cable and then off to the studio,
> and can't try out the GR55 till later, next you are answering LD mails...
> stop starring at that computer Boysen and get playing with the f***ing
> guitar synth... some of us wanna know what you think... OK?


Sorry, I'm just slammed with work now and off to Gothenburg (away from HQ)
but right now I came in from the last session and will do some more hours
with the GR55. Had a quick shot yesterday and posted the message below under
the thread "GR-55" but mistakenly sent it only to Paul and not to the full
list ;-)

Just found a GK cable today so I'm checking out the GR-55 tonight with
> a STick driving the GC mik from the melody side fretboard. I found
> that it's very cool to run the bass side fretboard's magnetic pickup
> output through the GK mik as "Normal Guitar Sound" and use the modeled
> Sitar sound (Cosm) for the GK mik. The Sitar sound is also layered with
> this
> fretboard's magnetic pickup output. I like the Les Paul cosm too, but the
> rest doesn't resonate with me.
>
> Manufactury synth sounds are not very good IMHO... well, actually
> pretty lousy ;-))  But the programming interface is simple so it
> should be easy to make this box sound a lot better. I'm starting with
> the real sounds, the modeled sounds and effects and will see later on
> if the synth tones can be added for any good. I like the box very
> much. Not the amp sims though. But I might be wrong about this because
> I'm not in my studio with full range speakers - have to rely on
> headphones or a crappy home stereo for this first test.



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On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 8:31 PM, mark francombe &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@=
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ou say you are picking up A GK cable and then off to the studio,<br>&gt; an=
d can&#39;t try out the GR55 till later, next you are answering LD mails...=
<br>
&gt; stop starring at that computer Boysen and get playing with the f***ing=
<br>&gt; guitar synth... some of us wanna know what you think... OK?<br><br=
><br>Sorry, I&#39;m just slammed with work now and off to Gothenburg (away =
from HQ) but right now I came in from the last session and will do some mor=
e hours with the GR55. Had a quick shot yesterday and posted the message be=
low under the thread &quot;GR-55&quot; but mistakenly sent it only to Paul =
and not to the full list ;-) <br>
<br><blockquote style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid =
rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;" class=3D"gmail_quote">Just found a =
GK cable today so I&#39;m checking out the GR-55 tonight with<br>a STick dr=
iving the GC mik from the melody side fretboard. I found<br>
that it&#39;s very cool to run the bass side fretboard&#39;s magnetic picku=
p<br>output through the GK mik as &quot;Normal Guitar Sound&quot; and use t=
he modeled<br>Sitar sound (Cosm) for the GK mik. The Sitar sound is also la=
yered with this<br>
fretboard&#39;s magnetic pickup output. I like the Les Paul cosm too, but t=
he rest doesn&#39;t resonate with me. <br><br>Manufactury synth sounds are =
not very good IMHO... well, actually<br>pretty lousy ;-)) =C2=A0But the pro=
gramming interface is simple so it<br>
should be easy to make this box sound a lot better. I&#39;m starting with<b=
r>the real sounds, the modeled sounds and effects and will see later on<br>=
if the synth tones can be added for any good. I like the box very<br>much. =
Not the amp sims though. But I might be wrong about this because<br>
I&#39;m not in my studio with full range speakers - have to rely on<br>head=
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> yes! i'm using logic, so i'll try the HUGE counter first!


Right-click on the transport bar for that menu.

Per

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Per Boysen wrote:
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>     Manufactury synth sounds are not very good IMHO... well, actually
>     pretty lousy ;-))  But the programming interface is simple so it
>     should be easy to make this box sound a lot better.

Oh yeah, I meant to mention that in one of my previous emails: if this 
box is anything like the past couple VG models have been, the factory 
sounds suck (and I mean capital S-U-C-K).  Gods, I wish it were possible 
to erase them and buy back the preset space they're taking up.

Once you get a chance to dig in and edit some of the models, you'll find 
that they can do some pretty amazing things.  However, on the VG-99, 
whoever programmed the factory sets is a complete bozo who only wanted 
to show off the box to hair-metal d00dz, or so it seems.  Out of 200 
presets, you're lucky if a couple dozen are worth using as jumping-off 
points.

So, if the 55 is anything like the 99, don't get discouraged by 
listening to the included presets.  Start editing on your own and I'm 
sure you'll find a world of amazing capabilities that were completely 
lost on the preset designers at Roland.

	-m-

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thanks per.. logic features are overwhelming, nice package indeed ... i
think i'll be reading the manual for life .. hehe... thanks friend!


2011/9/18 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>

> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Ra=FCl Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com>
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> > yes! i'm using logic, so i'll try the HUGE counter first!
>
>
> Right-click on the transport bar for that menu.
>
> Per
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Can I brother synch my EDP's as usual, BUT synchronize them to an external
midi signal?

Currently my band are experiencing synch issues cos we cant get our 3 edps
to play together on brother synch, but when I send one guy midi clock from
my edp, his edp doesnt synch to it via midi (actually I dont understand how
that works)

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mark francombe wrote:
> Can I brother synch my EDP's as usual, BUT synchronize them to an 
> external midi signal?

yes,
an edp will still put out bro sync when Sync=In.

maybe use sync = OUt on edp2 as an option.




> 
> Currently my band are experiencing synch issues cos we cant get our 3 
> edps to play together on brother synch, but when I send one guy midi 
> clock from my edp, his edp doesnt synch to it via midi (actually I dont 
> understand how that works)

param needed is
Sync = In 

> 
> Now Im wondering if the MAIN ABELTON GUY send us all HIS midi clock , 
> but then how do I set my gear? I need to set EDPs to IN then? but then 
> does brother synch work??

it works, but you don't need it if edp2 is getting the midi clock too



andy


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Thanks Andy.. good confirmation... Actually it DID work for a while, but
then it stopped working so I was stumped and wrote the mail... NOW I realise
that Sync Parameter is saved in Presets.. ha ha, so when I changed to a
different preset in between tracks, I turned it back to sync=Out

On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 6:13 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> mark francombe wrote:
>
>> Can I brother synch my EDP's as usual, BUT synchronize them to an external
>> midi signal?
>>
>
> yes,
> an edp will still put out bro sync when Sync=In.
>
> maybe use sync = OUt on edp2 as an option.
>
>
>
>
> *Mark Francombe*
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Thanks Andy.. good confirmation... Actually it DID work for a while, but th=
en it stopped working so I was stumped and wrote the mail... NOW I realise =
that Sync Parameter is saved in Presets.. ha ha, so when I changed to a dif=
ferent preset in between tracks, I turned it back to sync=3DOut<br>

<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 6:13 PM, andy butler=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk">akbutler@t=
iscali.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
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<div class=3D"im">mark francombe wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Can I brother synch my EDP&#39;s as usual, BUT synchronize them to an exter=
nal midi signal?<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
yes,<br>
an edp will still put out bro sync when Sync=3DIn.<br>
<br>
maybe use sync =3D OUt on edp2 as an option.<div class=3D"im"><br>
<br>
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i><br>

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On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Ra=C3=BCl Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> w=
rote:
> thanks per.. logic features are overwhelming, nice package indeed ... i
> think i'll be reading the manual for life .. hehe... thanks friend!


You can't "learn Logic", it's just a giant toolbox. You should learn
music production and then use whatever tools of Logic's that you need
for a recording.  ;-)

Per

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Gotcha eh :)

On Sep 18, 2011, at 12:15 PM, mark francombe wrote:

> Thanks Andy.. good confirmation... Actually it DID work for a while, =
but then it stopped working so I was stumped and wrote the mail... NOW I =
realise that Sync Parameter is saved in Presets.. ha ha, so when I =
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>=20
> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 6:13 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> =
wrote:
> mark francombe wrote:
> Can I brother synch my EDP's as usual, BUT synchronize them to an =
external midi signal?
>=20
> yes,
> an edp will still put out bro sync when Sync=3DIn.
>=20
> maybe use sync =3D OUt on edp2 as an option.
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Mark Francombe
> www.markfrancombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no
> twitter @markfrancombe


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<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Gotcha eh :)<div><br><div><div>On Sep 18, 2011, at 12:15 PM, mark francombe wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Thanks Andy.. good confirmation... Actually it DID work for a while, but then it stopped working so I was stumped and wrote the mail... NOW I realise that Sync Parameter is saved in Presets.. ha ha, so when I changed to a different preset in between tracks, I turned it back to sync=Out<br>

<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 6:13 PM, andy butler <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk">akbutler@tiscali.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">

<div class="im">mark francombe wrote:<br>
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Can I brother synch my EDP's as usual, BUT synchronize them to an external midi signal?<br>
</blockquote>
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yes,<br>
an edp will still put out bro sync when Sync=In.<br>
<br>
maybe use sync = OUt on edp2 as an option.<div class="im"><br>
<br>
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> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 8:31 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
> wrote:
>> get playing with the f***ing
>> guitar synth... some of us wanna know what you think... OK?
>


Ok, the short answer is I think it is very good. Great value for its price.

Here's the long story. It offers four simultaneous sounds: (1) Your
guitar's magnetic PU, "Normal Sound", that can be cabled through the
GK PU, (2) the modeling sound (Cosm) and two synth tones. There is one
set of optional effects to slap over the two synth tones and another
set of more "global" effects (reverb, delay etc) that affects
everything, if used. You can control parameters by a control
button/pad and an expression pedal. A third control option is pressing
the expression pedal hard toe down (like enabling a wha pedal). It
seems like most parameters can be controlled; so far I tried to set up
the delay at maximum delay time (3400 ms or one whole note) and
binding its on/off state to the control pad and delay feedback to the
expression pedal (set to range zero to full feedback), worked well for
simple delay live looping.

Another interesting thing, I haven't tried out yet, is that you can
connect it to a laptop by USB and pipe the audio through the lappy for
further processing etc. On a Mac there is a way to set up an
"aggregate device" so you can use two audio interfaced and this means
the GR-55 can be set as the audio input for an application while the
usual interface is used as the output.

I'm not sure about how it sounds yet, since the best listening I have
access to where I am now is my in-ear headphones. But as I said,
tweaking options are massive! All amp/cab sims have parameters for
gain, bass, mid, treble and presence. The cosm sounds all sound a bit
lamish but I think they can be useful if layered behind the real PU
sound. Synth sounds are good. My feeling though is that I get a better
clean PU sound with plugins on my laptop than with the GR-55, but that
is personal taste and also biased by the fact that I use the GR-55
with a Stick and not with a guitar.

There are a lot of tempo synced effects that I have fully not tried
out yet, so you can MIDI slave sync the GR-55 from a looper and
overdub "rhythmic pads" and such as audio into the looper.

Oh, almost forgot... a bank has three sounds that are instantly
accessible by just one kick against a pedal. Then you may also scroll
the program list upwards or downwards by the two hand buttons on the
GK PU.

Stuff I have not checked out yet is the Phrase Looper and the USB
audio file player. You may read up on them in the PDF manual that can
be downloaded from Roland.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
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> Ok, the short answer is I think it is very good. Great value for its price.
>
> Thanks for that Per... and the long story... the tempo synched stuff sounds
interesting...
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So this seems like an intended successor to the VG99. Sounds like more =
bang for the buck, more features, maybe better configuration...=20

The VG-99 put me off due mostly to the severe treatment of my dry =
signal... even taking a line from the so-called "dry" out on the thing =
produced something so shrill, so far from my real tone, that it was =
useless in any part of my serial chain... and i did not want to wag the =
dog by making a bypass loop just for the thing.=20

I guess in the end I love the sound of my fingers on my strings on my =
guitar, and the Roland treatment of the signal made me feel too far from =
those elements.=20

Is there a true dry path in the GR-55?=20

And... I guess I better look to see what the GR-55 is doing to the =
resale value of the VG-99, hope it's not too late to recoup some cost =
there :)

Phil :)



On Sep 18, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Per Boysen wrote:

>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 8:31 PM, mark francombe =
<mark@markfrancombe.com>
>> wrote:
>>> get playing with the f***ing
>>> guitar synth... some of us wanna know what you think... OK?
>>=20
>=20
>=20
> Ok, the short answer is I think it is very good. Great value for its =
price.
>=20
> Here's the long story. It offers four simultaneous sounds: (1) Your
> guitar's magnetic PU, "Normal Sound", that can be cabled through the
> GK PU, (2) the modeling sound (Cosm) and two synth tones. There is one
> set of optional effects to slap over the two synth tones and another
> set of more "global" effects (reverb, delay etc) that affects
> everything, if used. You can control parameters by a control
> button/pad and an expression pedal. A third control option is pressing
> the expression pedal hard toe down (like enabling a wha pedal). It
> seems like most parameters can be controlled; so far I tried to set up
> the delay at maximum delay time (3400 ms or one whole note) and
> binding its on/off state to the control pad and delay feedback to the
> expression pedal (set to range zero to full feedback), worked well for
> simple delay live looping.
>=20
> Another interesting thing, I haven't tried out yet, is that you can
> connect it to a laptop by USB and pipe the audio through the lappy for
> further processing etc. On a Mac there is a way to set up an
> "aggregate device" so you can use two audio interfaced and this means
> the GR-55 can be set as the audio input for an application while the
> usual interface is used as the output.
>=20
> I'm not sure about how it sounds yet, since the best listening I have
> access to where I am now is my in-ear headphones. But as I said,
> tweaking options are massive! All amp/cab sims have parameters for
> gain, bass, mid, treble and presence. The cosm sounds all sound a bit
> lamish but I think they can be useful if layered behind the real PU
> sound. Synth sounds are good. My feeling though is that I get a better
> clean PU sound with plugins on my laptop than with the GR-55, but that
> is personal taste and also biased by the fact that I use the GR-55
> with a Stick and not with a guitar.
>=20
> There are a lot of tempo synced effects that I have fully not tried
> out yet, so you can MIDI slave sync the GR-55 from a looper and
> overdub "rhythmic pads" and such as audio into the looper.
>=20
> Oh, almost forgot... a bank has three sounds that are instantly
> accessible by just one kick against a pedal. Then you may also scroll
> the program list upwards or downwards by the two hand buttons on the
> GK PU.
>=20
> Stuff I have not checked out yet is the Phrase Looper and the USB
> audio file player. You may read up on them in the PDF manual that can
> be downloaded from Roland.
>=20
> Greetings from Sweden
>=20
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> www.looproom.com internet music hub
>=20

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Hmmmm,

The "dry" signal that I get out the back of myVG99 (from my magnetic =
PUs) seems pretty OK to me.

That part of my tone is pretty important to me and I't notice if it were =
significantly off.

I wonder if it's just a problem with your VG99 - it's been know to =
happen.

Mine seems to work fine.

I use my guitar to drive a VG99, a GR1 and a whole separate 3rd =
processed signal path for my Duncan pickups too - which I then mix to =
taste before it goes into MaxMSP.

I've a whole set of my own patches on the GR1 that I've customized since =
the early '90s, a bunch of patches I use on the VG99 . . . but still, my =
main sound is in my magnetic PUs.

Taking the raw "guitar out" from the back of either the GR or the VG =
seems pretty identical to one where I just plug it directly into the amp =
with nothing between m'em but a cable.

Something must be wrong somewhere.

It shouldn't be a significant problem.

Best,

Ted

On Sep 18, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Phil Clevenger wrote:

> So this seems like an intended successor to the VG99. Sounds like more =
bang for the buck, more features, maybe better configuration...=20
>=20
> The VG-99 put me off due mostly to the severe treatment of my dry =
signal... even taking a line from the so-called "dry" out on the thing =
produced something so shrill, so far from my real tone, that it was =
useless in any part of my serial chain... and i did not want to wag the =
dog by making a bypass loop just for the thing.=20
>=20
> I guess in the end I love the sound of my fingers on my strings on my =
guitar, and the Roland treatment of the signal made me feel too far from =
those elements.=20
>=20
> Is there a true dry path in the GR-55?=20
>=20
> And... I guess I better look to see what the GR-55 is doing to the =
resale value of the VG-99, hope it's not too late to recoup some cost =
there :)
>=20
> Phil :)
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Sep 18, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Per Boysen wrote:
>=20
>>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 8:31 PM, mark francombe =
<mark@markfrancombe.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> get playing with the f***ing
>>>> guitar synth... some of us wanna know what you think... OK?
>>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Ok, the short answer is I think it is very good. Great value for its =
price.
>>=20
>> Here's the long story. It offers four simultaneous sounds: (1) Your
>> guitar's magnetic PU, "Normal Sound", that can be cabled through the
>> GK PU, (2) the modeling sound (Cosm) and two synth tones. There is =
one
>> set of optional effects to slap over the two synth tones and another
>> set of more "global" effects (reverb, delay etc) that affects
>> everything, if used. You can control parameters by a control
>> button/pad and an expression pedal. A third control option is =
pressing
>> the expression pedal hard toe down (like enabling a wha pedal). It
>> seems like most parameters can be controlled; so far I tried to set =
up
>> the delay at maximum delay time (3400 ms or one whole note) and
>> binding its on/off state to the control pad and delay feedback to the
>> expression pedal (set to range zero to full feedback), worked well =
for
>> simple delay live looping.
>>=20
>> Another interesting thing, I haven't tried out yet, is that you can
>> connect it to a laptop by USB and pipe the audio through the lappy =
for
>> further processing etc. On a Mac there is a way to set up an
>> "aggregate device" so you can use two audio interfaced and this means
>> the GR-55 can be set as the audio input for an application while the
>> usual interface is used as the output.
>>=20
>> I'm not sure about how it sounds yet, since the best listening I have
>> access to where I am now is my in-ear headphones. But as I said,
>> tweaking options are massive! All amp/cab sims have parameters for
>> gain, bass, mid, treble and presence. The cosm sounds all sound a bit
>> lamish but I think they can be useful if layered behind the real PU
>> sound. Synth sounds are good. My feeling though is that I get a =
better
>> clean PU sound with plugins on my laptop than with the GR-55, but =
that
>> is personal taste and also biased by the fact that I use the GR-55
>> with a Stick and not with a guitar.
>>=20
>> There are a lot of tempo synced effects that I have fully not tried
>> out yet, so you can MIDI slave sync the GR-55 from a looper and
>> overdub "rhythmic pads" and such as audio into the looper.
>>=20
>> Oh, almost forgot... a bank has three sounds that are instantly
>> accessible by just one kick against a pedal. Then you may also scroll
>> the program list upwards or downwards by the two hand buttons on the
>> GK PU.
>>=20
>> Stuff I have not checked out yet is the Phrase Looper and the USB
>> audio file player. You may read up on them in the PDF manual that can
>> be downloaded from Roland.
>>=20
>> Greetings from Sweden
>>=20
>> Per Boysen
>> www.boysen.se
>> www.perboysen.com
>> www.looproom.com internet music hub
>>=20
>=20

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Hi gang,
We have a new team putting together the Y2KX+1 Loopfestival this year
and a really nice lineup for this years festival  (including a 
Percussion Themed Headliners Concert).

I'm more involved than I planned to be, but having fun training Steve 
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Maha Taitano and Trevor McClaine how to run the festival (with big help 
this year
from my brother, Bill Walker).    This is a really wonderful team!


Anyway,  the recession has hurt everyone, donations are the lowest 
they've ever been
and our venue and transportation expenses have gone up this year
so I wanted to put out a plea for donations to help us run the 
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pay for transportation while they are here and pay the volunteers
who put in so ridiculously many hours out of the kindness of their hearts.

If you are so inclined,  we can really use some monetary donations 
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You can paypal them to me at

rickwalker@cruzio.com

which is my paypal account.

Please indicate that the money is for Y2KX+1,  and  I hope to see as 
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On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Phil Clevenger
<phil.clevenger@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is there a true dry path in the GR-55?


Yes, you can cable the guitar's magnetic PU output through the GK-3.
To make it dry you simply restrain from adding reverb etc. However,
all four sound sources (two Synth tones, COSM modelling sound, the
through-put normal guitar sound) are not totally separated regarding
optional effect treatments. There are two global routing schemes to
chose from, so it seems that if you strip off the reverb/delay/flanger
or whatever from the trough-put guitar PU signal this setting will
also affect some of the other four sound sources. Check the manual for
details, this is all up to personal taste.

Another cool thing is that you can plug in a laptop by USB and use the
GR-55 as both the audio interface and the MIDI interface for the
laptop. At the moment I'm running Mobius standalone looper on an
inserted laptop and this combination is very straight-forward. I set a
tempo by catching loops in Mobius and then I create my GR-55 patches
with all effects set to follow tempo from the IAC Bus (where I set
Mobius to output MIDI Clock sync signal). I like this simple
plug-n-loop combo :-)

While typing this I'm listening to Internet radio by iTunes through
the GR-55. It works well as the audio interface for whatever audio
happening on the Mac.

Per

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Per Boysen wrote:

> Another cool thing is that you can plug in a laptop by USB and use the
> GR-55 as both the audio interface 

so does it  give you the individual strings?

andy

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> Per Boysen wrote:
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>> Another cool thing is that you can plug in a laptop by USB and use the
>> GR-55 as both the audio interface

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:44 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote=
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> so does it =C2=A0give you the individual strings?

For MIDI it does, if you set it up for mono mode. I don't think it the
COSM modeling sound can be string separated though. The normal guitar
pickup sound can definitely not be string separated, since it is just
the magnetic pickup output passing through the GK circuit.

Per

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Sunday, October 2, the Soundscapes Concert Series returns to the 
Nazareth Center for the Arts with two great acts; Dean DeBenedictis & 
Vic Hennegan and Bernhard Wostheinrich..

DEAN DE BENEDICTIS: Dean's music is the result of his will to tie an 
essential common thread together between opposing genres and mentalities 
as well as draw from them a natural sense of emotion, expanse and 
mystery. This Southern California-based visual and conceptual artist, 
known as Surface 10, has always utilized his interest in a variety of 
styles and cultures to enrich the quality of his musical expression.

VIC HENNEGAN: An artist and a spiritualist, Hennegan contemplates the 
state of humanity through his music. Hennegans instinctive hand creates 
techno-trance and ambient music in a wildly fun, uplifting spiritual 
experience that will take your soul on a journey to the center of 
ecstasy. His music emanates a unique warmth which moves the listener to 
a state of euphoria.Bernhard Wöstheinrich elicits meaning from 
abstraction in electronic music and painting. He has studied graphic 
design and has created an eclectic body of work in both graphics and 
music. Using a compositional approach akin to his work as a visual 
artist, Bernhard usually begins by improvising abstract sonic structures 
which are subsequently developed into an increasingly detailed aural 
picture.

BERNHARD WOSTHEINRICH: Bernhard leads his own solo project "The 
Redundant Rocker" and his main collaborator is Markus Reuter (in 
CENTROZOON). He has also worked with Ian Boddy, Klaus Hoffmann-Hoock, 
No-Man singer Tim Bowness, Thorsten Niestrath, and Synapscape's Philipp 
Münch.

Bernhard is a composer, painter, graphic designer, performer, small town 
bohemian, failed control freak, and, finally, even a record label owner 
in Germany. His projects and albums have been released on a variety of 
labels and span different fields of electronic and ambient music. In 
about 1987, he began to intensely experiment with his own sounds and 
tunes after finding out that drawing and painting simply werent enough 
to adequately express himself. Bernhard seeked something that would have 
a more performing approach. Inspired by the likes of Einstürzende 
Neubauten and other informal and experimental music, he finally began to 
work in a very personal way to compose and record some early tapes. The 
rest, as they say, is history.

Doors open at 7:30 pm and the concert is at 8:00 pm. The concert is 
free. Donations are requested to support the musician and to enable the 
Nazareth Center for the Arts to pay operating expenses. The NCA is 
located at 30 Belvidere Street, Nazareth, PA 18064 just off of Route 191 
on the southwest corner of Belvidere Street and South Spruce Street. 
Check the NCA site for parking information.

The Soundscapes Concert Series is the concert companion to the Galactic 
Travels radio program on WDIY-FM and to Thought Radio on WMUH-FM and 
presents electronic music to the Lehigh Valley. This is the concert 
series that presented Robert Rich (California), vidnaObmana (Belgium), 
The Ministry of Inside Things (Philadelphia), Richard Lainhart (New 
York), Orbital Decay (Quakertown), Mark Jenkins (UK), Modulator ESP 
(UK), Mikronesia (Philadelphia), The Tangent Project (Philadelphia), 
Technicolor Travel Agency (Poconos), and Twyndyllyngs (Lehigh Valley) to 
local audiences.

SOUNDSCAPES:
http://soundscapes.us
http://soundscapes.us/banner.jpg
http://soundscapes.us/flier.pdf

GALACTIC TRAVELS:
http://galactictravels.info

THOUGHT RADIO:
http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio

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On Sep 18, 2011, at 5:54 PM, mark francombe wrote:

> And was it Jan Hammer (yikes) who put "there are no guitars on this  
> album" a few years later.. Ha ha Genius!!


And Spinal Tap 'there is no music on this album'.
Or was that Flight of the Concords?

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On Sep 18, 2011, at 11:10 PM, Ra=FCl Bonell wrote:

> anybody knows of such a plug? i need it to follow a visual signal to =20=

> avoid leakage issues while recording. it should follow DAW's tempo =20
> and it'd be cool if it were sizeable, so i could see it from the =20
> distance. mac user here.

Really miss that. They used to have it in Digital Performer and it got =20=

taken out somewhere along the way. Personally, I find watching an =20
audio track a very good guide. Smoother somehow than midi tracks. You =20=

could always make an audio track of clicks and not have the sound on. =20=

Make as big as you like.

There is also:
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but I don't think you can sync it to Logic.


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of such a plug? i need it to follow a visual signal to avoid leakage =
issues while recording. it should follow DAW's tempo and it'd be cool if =
it were sizeable, so i could see it from the distance. mac user =
here.</span></blockquote><br></div><div>Really miss that. They used to =
have it in Digital Performer and it got taken out somewhere along the =
way. Personally, I find watching an audio track a very good guide. =
Smoother somehow than midi tracks. You could always make an audio track =
of clicks and not have the sound on. Make as big as you =
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Hi folks,

Visual Music LIVE continues on Friday September 23 with 3 excellent 
and stylistically distinct musicians

Dr. T -- Video Projections
Tom Plsek -- Trombone
Neil Leonard -- reeds
Eric Crawley, Harpejji and electronics. To see what this gorgeous 
instrument kooks like, go to 
<http://www.marcodi.com/sights-sounds/pictures/>http://www.marcodi.com/sights-sounds/pictures/

Each musicians will do a duet with me, followed by a quartet set.

My projections are produced by mixing multiple DVD sources with a 
video mixers and effects processors The sources consist of 
computer-manipulated original material derived from my still 
photography and videography. The original subject matter is usually 
recognizable, but sometimes processed to complete abstraction. 
Sometimes the projections and music respond directly to each other -- 
sometimes they simply co-exist.


Outpost 186, 186 Hampshire St (in the back), near Inman Square, Cambridge MA

Suggested donation,  $10

617.876.0860 ~ all ages ~ 
<http://www.zeitgeist-outpost.org>http://www.zeitgeist-outpost.org

Many of my finished video pieces (both studio and live) can be seen 
at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld. with two pieces from the 2011 
Series at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxBtaJajCkU and 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3_DnGzvg_w

Those of you who attend or perform at events at Outpost 186 may find 
my photo essay "Improvisations from an Outpost" 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157624670849749/ to 
be of interest,




-- 
My photography can be viewed at 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/

My videos can be viewed at
http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld

		Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D.
Video Producer			Image Processing Specialist
Video for your HEAD!			Boris FX
http://www.foryourhead.com		http://www.borisfx.com

" Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better."  -- Paul Bley

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I really want the ability to convert my guitar signal to a midi signal. From
there, I'd like to spit pitch cv out to my moog stuff via the moog mp-201. I
think it would be cool to have a freqbox or ring mod tuned to whatever note
I'm playing.

So....I have read about hex pickups and axon interfaces, but not totally
sure what the price / proper pairing would be.

Then comes the topic of...why not just play a synth...good question, since I
already have one.

Anyone ventured into this territory? What were your conclusions?

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I really want the ability to convert my guitar signal to a midi signal. Fro=
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> On Sep 18, 2011, at 5:54 PM, mark francombe wrote:
>
> And was it Jan Hammer (yikes) who put "there are no guitars on this album" a
> few years later.. Ha ha Genius!!


Ha, ha... I didn't know he did. Very funny! Nice to see that Jan
Hammer has a good sense of humor! I lost track with his music since I
got pushed away by his focus on guitar-sound-alike playing.

Per

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Hi folks,

I posted  a new Photo Essay on Flickr  -- it can be seen at 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157627586251813

I was very fortunate to attend a concert by British saxophonist Evan 
Parker on Saturday afternoon. Evan was playing with two excellent New 
England -based musicians whom I had never heard, Charles Farrell on 
piano, and Jim Schapperoew on drums.

The event started propitiously when I waled into the venue (The Lily 
Pad in Cambridge, a gallery with about 50 seats.), and Evan said "Hi, 
I'm Evan" and shook my mind. The music was splendid -- two extremely 
inventive and wide-ranging trio pieces and a circular-breathing 
soprano solo by Evan. It's pretty amazing to see someone play sax for 
15 minutes without pausing to take a breath.

I had my compact Lumix camera with me (as I usually do at such 
events), and took a lot of pictures using a technique I call 
'Swirlies'. I make Swirlies by taking one second time exposures while 
whirling the camera around with the camera in unlimited burst mode, 
which gives me approximately one picture a second. I get to look at 
each picture for a second, which allows me to improvise further 
camera moves in reaction to what I have just taken and the music  I 
am hearing.

I respectfully dedicate this photo essay to Evan Parker, and hope 
that his prediction that this is his last American tour (because of 
the  red tape it takes for foreigners to play here) proves to be 
untrue.

BTW Some of my videos can be viewed at
http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld
-- 
" Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better."  -- Paul Bley

		Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D.
Video Producer			Image Processing Specialist
Video for your HEAD!			Boris FX
http://www.foryourhead.com		http://www.borisfx.com

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On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:40 AM, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)
<emile@foryourhead.com> wrote:
> 'Swirlies'

Enjoying those pix!

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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hi Marcus,

I looked into it,
and I actually have the hardware to do it.
(mainly it's the hassle of the Roland p/u which
prevents me from getting those toys out)

The Axon stuff is pretty good, but they don't actually make the p/u
themselves (afaik) so if a Roland p/u is cheaper go for that.
Then you need the 13 pin cable, adds to the price.

The much cheaper route is 
http://www.sonuus.com/products_g2m.html
which is mono (no 13 pin).
...but then the freqbox is mono, so that's not an issue.
Tracking is a bit slower, but less warbling.

Do you already have the mp-201? 
if you need something that's Midi to CV for less money
http://www.thomann.de/gb/doepfer_mcv4.htm



That's the expense, then there's the troubles.
The Freqbox is designed for 1V/oct, but it's not ultra stable 
and you'll need to tweak an internal preset to get the scale
dead right (can be well in tune over 3 oct at least).
To follow the guitar dynamics put the dry guitar into the freqbox
audio in.

If you want the Moog MF-102 Ring Mod to play in tune
then that's harder. It's around 0.35V/oct so you'll
need to attenuate the control voltage to play a (fairly) in tune scale.
(don't know if the mp-201 does that, but it's easy enough 
to make your own attenuator with a 10k or 100k linear pot)


Once you got that going I can predict you'll want an MF-101
filter too :-)


andy




marcus kirby wrote:
> I really want the ability to convert my guitar signal to a midi signal. 
>  From there, I'd like to spit pitch cv out to my moog stuff via the moog 
> mp-201. I think it would be cool to have a freqbox or ring mod tuned to 
> whatever note I'm playing.
> 
> So....I have read about hex pickups and axon interfaces, but not totally 
> sure what the price / proper pairing would be.
> 
> Then comes the topic of...why not just play a synth...good question, 
> since I already have one. 
> 
> Anyone ventured into this territory? What were your conclusions?

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Nels Cline lists Jan as one of his favorite "guitarists" on his website. =
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On Sep 18, 2011, at 5:54 PM, mark francombe wrote:


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a few years later.. Ha ha Genius!!



And Spinal Tap 'there is no music on this album'.
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> > 'Swirlies'

wonderful

-Michael

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Many years ago I played at the Montreux festival, and one of the benefits of
that was access to pretty much everything that was going on. I got to see an
outdoor concert by the Music Improvisation Company, which included Evan
Parker and Derek Bailey. For me it was one of those seminal moments, and the
concert just twisted my head around. The music was a wonderful fusion of
avant garde jazz and contemporary classical music that I found really
compelling, and it pushed me off in a new direction that I've never tired
of. Every once in awhile I run into somebody who loves that style as much as
I do. Great fun ensues.

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> Hi folks,
>
> I posted  a new Photo Essay on Flickr  -- it can be seen at
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**22231918@N06/sets/**72157627586251813<http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157627586251813>
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> I was very fortunate to attend a concert by British saxophonist Evan Parker
> on Saturday afternoon. Evan was playing with two excellent New England
> -based musicians whom I had never heard, Charles Farrell on piano, and Jim
> Schapperoew on drums.
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Many years ago I played at the Montreux festival, and one of the benefits o=
f that was access to pretty much everything that was going on. I got to see=
 an outdoor concert by the Music Improvisation Company, which included Evan=
 Parker and Derek Bailey. For me it was one of those seminal moments, and t=
he concert just twisted my head around. The music was a wonderful fusion of=
 avant garde jazz and contemporary classical music that I found really comp=
elling, and it pushed me off in a new direction that I&#39;ve never tired o=
f. Every once in awhile I run into somebody who loves that style as much as=
 I do. Great fun ensues.<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 1:40 AM, Emile Toben=
feld (a.k.a Dr. T) <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:emile@foryourhea=
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Hi folks,<br>
<br>
I posted =A0a new Photo Essay on Flickr =A0-- it can be seen at <a href=3D"=
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157627586251813" target=3D=
"_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/<u></u>22231918@N06/sets/<u></u>72157=
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<br>
I was very fortunate to attend a concert by British saxophonist Evan Parker=
 on Saturday afternoon. Evan was playing with two excellent New England -ba=
sed musicians whom I had never heard, Charles Farrell on piano, and Jim Sch=
apperoew on drums.<br>

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Really lovely, Emile.  Thanks for sharing,  totally enjoyed it!


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>
> I posted  a new Photo Essay on Flickr  -- it can be seen at
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Really lovely, Emile. =A0Thanks for sharing, =A0totally enjoyed it!=A0<div>=
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 1:40 AM, Emile T=
obenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:emile@foryou=
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Hi folks,<br>
<br>
I posted =A0a new Photo Essay on Flickr =A0-- it can be seen at <a href=3D"=
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Really nice pix.

Thanks for sharing the link.

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> Hi folks,
>=20
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> Oh and I agree with Andy "Hurrah for the Harmonica!"

+1: "Hurrah for the Harmonica!" :-))

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I know, it's not a GUITAR, but a guitar shaped controller.  No matter, it's
pretty cool and they are about $90 at amazon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JtkoAH73n0&feature=related

http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Mustang-PRO-Guitar-Controller-PlayStation-3/dp/B003RS1A7Y

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I know, it&#39;s not a GUITAR, but a guitar shaped controller.=A0 No matter=
, it&#39;s pretty cool and they are about $90 at amazon.<br><br><a href=3D"=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D0JtkoAH73n0&amp;feature=3Drelated">http://=
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>
-=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- <br>Tony<br>

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I'm finally back at my HQ and played the GR-55 through the Genelec
studio monitors and it sounds so good I thought I should post a short
note to tell, as I wasn't overly enthusiastic in my previous post
after having tried it with bad amplifications on the road. For some
gigs the GR-55 is going to replace my Fireface400; the guitar
synthesizer doubling up also as the audio interface and MIDI interface
for a USB inserted laptop looper.

The GR-55's effects are quite useful to me; I can do most stuff I
usually set up with plugins on the lappy, even cross fading multiple
parameters in the expression pedal to freeze audio with a volume pedal
in a simple loop before the main looper. Modulation options are
exciting and you even have "Internal Expression Pedals"! A more
accurate description would be to call it "a sweep" (like it's called
in the Gordius Little Giant) because the most important factor is the
Time parameter where you set how long time the virtual pedal will need
to morph the value from the lowest to the hightest (or the other
direction). Most things on the box can be used as source to trigger
such an Internal Expression Pedal - but unfortunately not signal at
the audio input, like Duke teased us with from the VG99. That's a bit
of a bummer, but I found that you an create an organic attack in a
multi effect environment by using compression, so it's not all bad.
I've spent many hours tonight balancing signals that meet in a
compressor, tweeking level and EQ pre compressor for each signal.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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on the same token,is there a metronome out there where you can program
claves and subdivision rhythms?

But if u want a fun tuner for your mac check out tuna pitch

http://www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/music/tunapitch.html
cheers
Luis

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e:
>
> On Sep 18, 2011, at 11:10 PM, Ra=FCl Bonell wrote:
>
> anybody knows of such a plug? i need it to follow a visual signal to avoi=
d
> leakage issues while recording. it should follow DAW's tempo and it'd be
> cool if it were sizeable, so i could see it from the distance. mac user
> here.
>
> Really miss that. They used to have it in Digital Performer and it got ta=
ken
> out somewhere along the way. Personally, I find watching an audio track a
> very good guide. Smoother somehow than midi tracks. You could always make=
 an
> audio track of clicks and not have the sound on. Make as big as you like.
> There is also:
> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~ronfleckner/metronome/
> but I don't think you can sync it to Logic.
>
> Ed Durbrow
> Saitama, Japan
> http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/
> http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/
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>
>



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On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Louie Angulo
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> But if u want a fun tuner for your mac check out tuna pitch
>
> http://www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/music/tunapitch.html


Thanks Louie, that was a very useful gadget! Much better than setting
up tuner plugins in all your performance sessions.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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Great Per!
been following the GR-55 thread,i sold my GR-33 a while ago and been
looking into this one
from what ive gather so far is that the amp sims arent as good as a
mulit fx proccessor,correct?
but being able to do open tunings and having guitar amp sim  and
synths sounds on a single unit idoes sound exciting  and something ive
waited for
thus saving from taking a lot of gear on the road!
cheers
Luis





On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Louie Angulo
> <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> But if u want a fun tuner for your mac check out tuna pitch
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/music/tunapitch.html
>
>
> Thanks Louie, that was a very useful gadget! Much better than setting
> up tuner plugins in all your performance sessions.
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> www.looproom.com internet music hub
>
>



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On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Louie Angulo
<louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Great Per!
> been following the GR-55 thread,i sold my GR-33 a while ago and been
> looking into this one
> from what ive gather so far is that the amp sims arent as good as a
> mulit fx proccessor,correct?


Yes, exactly my opinion too!

> but being able to do open tunings and having guitar amp sim =C2=A0and
> synths sounds on a single unit does sound exciting =C2=A0and something iv=
e
> waited for thus saving from taking a lot of gear on the road!

You got it! :-)  For use with the Stick it comes out pretty nice as
you can cable the bass side through the Normal Guitar Pickup pipe and
play the melody side as any of the two Synth Tones, Cosm Modelling or
a combination of all three - well, that's my favored setup; always
having a good clean sound on the bass side in combinations with new
sounds for the Melody in each patch.

And I was able to set up morphing delay looping systems all within the
GR-55! Typically setting the expression pedal to do all this while
sweeping from toe up down to toe down:

- increasing tone volume ("direct sound", not affecting delay, reverb etc).
- decreasing volume of delay effect.
- decreasing delay effects feedback value.

I use this as full feedback at the toe-up position, meaning a loop
will stay forever if you close the line by the volume pedal. If
"swelling in" a note by the pedal (fast toe-down and then back to
toe-up position while playing) the delay feedback dips down to 30
percent which means old layers will back off under the new sound
you're throwing in. I keep all effects tempo synced and this simple
feedback delay looper runs at one hole note's length. There is also a
"phrase looper" in the GR-55 but I doubt I will ever use that one, the
delay hole note fiddling feels more musically creative as you can
morph the loop to infinity - while the phrase looper either becomes
boring too soon or goes belly-up with an ugly bump ;-))

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub

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Well I went ahead and shelled out for a Line6 Pod HD500. Here's what I foun=
d:
8 effects at once - up to the limit of the DSP - awesome mangling possibili=
ties!On screen editor - a godsend not to have to bend down with a guitar on=
 your lap under the table when you want to play with the sounds.Functions a=
s a usb soundcard - simplifies setting up.Loads of cool features which you =
need to read the manual to fully acquaint yourself with.
The looper is ore or less the same as the M13 though with 48 seconds of rec=
ord time instead of 24
But..When you change patches on the pedal ALL of your sound blanks off for =
a split second. That includes any swirling=2C looped gorgeous gooiness you =
might have going -ARGHH!Even if you use your computer for loop capture=2C w=
hich is what I do=2C when you switch patches the sound coming from your DAW=
 mutes briefly.The slight good news is that if your recording this into a D=
AW the audio is continuous=2C it's only the monitoring that glitches. This =
does however render the pedal a very dubious choice for live looping.I am m=
ost disappointed.I contacted Line6 and their response was "change patches o=
n your loop join" They're thinking phrase looping here aren't they?Fellow l=
oopers - BE WARNED!
Peace
G
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t size=3D"+1"><small><small><br></small></small></font></div><div><font siz=
e=3D"+1"><small><small>8 effects at once - up to the limit of the DSP - awe=
some mangling possibilities!</small></small></font></div><div><font size=3D=
"+1"><small><small>On screen editor - a godsend not to have to bend down wi=
th a guitar on your lap under the table when you want to play with the soun=
ds.</small></small></font></div><div><font size=3D"+1"><small><small>Functi=
ons as a usb soundcard - simplifies setting up.</small></small></font></div=
><div><font size=3D"+1"><small><small>Loads of cool features which you need=
 to read the manual to fully acquaint yourself with.</small></small></font>=
</div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" size=3D"3"><span class=3D"Apple=
-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 12px=3B"><br></span></font></div><div><fon=
t size=3D"+1"><small><small>The looper is ore or less the same as the M13 t=
hough with 48 seconds of record time instead of 24</small></small></font></=
div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" size=3D"3"><span class=3D"Apple-s=
tyle-span" style=3D"font-size: 12px=3B"><br></span></font></div><div><font =
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: 12px=3B">When you change patches on the pedal ALL of your sound blanks of=
f for a split second. That includes any swirling=2C looped gorgeous gooines=
s you might have going -ARGHH!</span></font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple=
-style-span" size=3D"3"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size=
: 12px=3B">Even if you use your computer for loop capture=2C which is what =
I do=2C when you switch patches the sound coming from your DAW mutes briefl=
y.</span></font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" size=3D"3"><spa=
n class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 12px=3B">The slight good n=
ews is that if your recording this into a DAW the audio is continuous=2C it=
's only the monitoring that glitches.&nbsp=3B</span></font></div><div><font=
 class=3D"Apple-style-span" size=3D"3"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" sty=
le=3D"font-size: 12px=3B">This does however render the pedal a very dubious=
 choice for live looping.</span></font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-styl=
e-span" size=3D"3"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 12p=
x=3B">I am most disappointed.</span></font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-=
style-span" size=3D"3"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size:=
 12px=3B">I contacted Line6 and their response was "change patches on your =
loop join" They're thinking phrase looping here aren't they?</span></font><=
/div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" size=3D"3"><span class=3D"Apple-=
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Hey Mark,

Just saw this and thought of your project ideas.  This may be
something along the lines of what you're looking to do (or not,
haven't really delved in myself....yet).

http://computermusicblog.com/blog/sonifyingprocessing/

Kevin

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Sylvain Poitras
<sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mark,
> If your scheme chops are up for it, you should have a look at
> impromptu. =A0Even though it's purpose made for live coding, there's
> nothing that prevents someone from coding in advance and loading the
> program at the gig... =A0It allows you to mess directly with opengl
> objects and create some pretty colours and shapes that change with the
> beat. =A0You could send the audio reference from Live to a certain
> channel on your audio device and have Impromtu read the data from that
> channel. =A0A steeper learning curve, but there are some musical payoffs
> as well (Impromptu can send/receive MIDI or OSC and host AU).
>
> the software: http://impromptu.moso.com.au/
>
> some graphics tutorials:
> http://homepage.mac.com/digego/video_tutorial_one.mov
> http://vimeo.com/4192785
>
> demos
> http://vimeo.com/2735394
> http://vimeo.com/2502546
> http://vimeo.com/2433303
>
> Sylvain
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 7:52 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> =
wrote:
>> Quite often it occurs on LD that there is a post about creating live vis=
uals
>> to our music. I have always been interested in this, and have always tri=
ed
>> to have a visual element to what I do. Recently I have become involved i=
n a
>> new art/music project, basically a looping band, with sensors and dancer=
s
>> and guest speakers and what-not... where we intend on creating a visual
>> element Live as well. I do not want to use pr-made video loops, and alth=
ough
>> having a permanent visual member on the band is an exiting option, we ar=
e
>> not investigating that just yet.
>> To that end, I spent this weekend doing a bit of research on VJ programs=
,
>> and thought Id post my initail finding in my website... HERE!
>>
>> http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?p=3D1449
>>
>> Bare in mind the caveats, Im looking for very specific functionality, bu=
t I
>> think that my reviews were really all about overall impressions rather t=
han
>> detailed analysis.
>> Hope some of you find it useful... its been quite an eye-opener for me, =
I'm
>> even considering making something related, an MA degree project.
>>
>> --
>> Mark Francombe
>> www.markfrancombe.com
>> www.ordoabkhao.com
>> http://vimeo.com/user825094
>> http://www.looop.no
>> twitter @markfrancombe
>>
>
>



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Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.

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Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org
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Yesterday I tried POD HD bean in music store. I really liked looper.
It's much cooler for real livelooping than mine RC-2, fast undo, 1/2
speed, reverse. Only 40 secunds or so, but it's actually enough. But I
tried to change patch while looper was in play mode and I couldn't. No
sound after changing patch, loop is going on, but no sound. Maybe I
skip something, as I spent about 20 minutes, but very strange.

2011/9/22 Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk>:
> Well I went ahead and shelled out for a Line6 Pod HD500.
> Here's what I found:
> 8 effects at once - up to the limit of the DSP - awesome mangling
> possibilities!
> On screen editor - a godsend not to have to bend down with a guitar on your
> lap under the table when you want to play with the sounds.
> Functions as a usb soundcard - simplifies setting up.
> Loads of cool features which you need to read the manual to fully acquaint
> yourself with.
> The looper is ore or less the same as the M13 though with 48 seconds of
> record time instead of 24
> But..
> When you change patches on the pedal ALL of your sound blanks off for a
> split second. That includes any swirling, looped gorgeous gooiness you might
> have going -ARGHH!
> Even if you use your computer for loop capture, which is what I do, when you
> switch patches the sound coming from your DAW mutes briefly.
> The slight good news is that if your recording this into a DAW the audio is
> continuous, it's only the monitoring that glitches.
> This does however render the pedal a very dubious choice for live looping.
> I am most disappointed.
> I contacted Line6 and their response was "change patches on your loop join"
> They're thinking phrase looping here aren't they?
> Fellow loopers - BE WARNED!
> Peace
> G
>



-- 
Thanks, Boris Plotnikov

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I just read about someone else who said that changes effects/scenes while
looping isn't going well.  On the M13 it is seamless.  The more I use the
M13, the more I like it.  It isn't ideal, but such a huge value!  Getting
something smaller just to have a dedicated looper, like the Headrush for
example, doesn't make sense, IMO.

Eventually, I'll try the new Boss or Boomerang, though.

----------
Mike Fugazzi
vocals/harmonica
http://www.mikefugazzi.com
Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/MikeFugazziMusic>
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On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Boris Plotnikov <ploboris@gmail.com>wrote:

> Yesterday I tried POD HD bean in music store. I really liked looper.
> It's much cooler for real livelooping than mine RC-2, fast undo, 1/2
> speed, reverse. Only 40 secunds or so, but it's actually enough. But I
> tried to change patch while looper was in play mode and I couldn't. No
> sound after changing patch, loop is going on, but no sound. Maybe I
> skip something, as I spent about 20 minutes, but very strange.
>
> 2011/9/22 Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk>:
> > Well I went ahead and shelled out for a Line6 Pod HD500.
> > Here's what I found:
> > 8 effects at once - up to the limit of the DSP - awesome mangling
> > possibilities!
> > On screen editor - a godsend not to have to bend down with a guitar on
> your
> > lap under the table when you want to play with the sounds.
> > Functions as a usb soundcard - simplifies setting up.
> > Loads of cool features which you need to read the manual to fully
> acquaint
> > yourself with.
> > The looper is ore or less the same as the M13 though with 48 seconds of
> > record time instead of 24
> > But..
> > When you change patches on the pedal ALL of your sound blanks off for a
> > split second. That includes any swirling, looped gorgeous gooiness you
> might
> > have going -ARGHH!
> > Even if you use your computer for loop capture, which is what I do, when
> you
> > switch patches the sound coming from your DAW mutes briefly.
> > The slight good news is that if your recording this into a DAW the audio
> is
> > continuous, it's only the monitoring that glitches.
> > This does however render the pedal a very dubious choice for live
> looping.
> > I am most disappointed.
> > I contacted Line6 and their response was "change patches on your loop
> join"
> > They're thinking phrase looping here aren't they?
> > Fellow loopers - BE WARNED!
> > Peace
> > G
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks, Boris Plotnikov
>
>

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I just read about someone else who said that changes effects/scenes while l=
ooping isn&#39;t going well.=A0 On the M13 it is seamless.=A0 The more I us=
e the M13, the more I like it.=A0 It isn&#39;t ideal, but such a huge value=
!=A0 Getting something smaller just to have a dedicated looper, like the He=
adrush for example, doesn&#39;t make sense, IMO.<br>

<br>Eventually, I&#39;ll try the new Boss or Boomerang, though.=A0 <br><br =
clear=3D"all">----------<br>Mike Fugazzi<br>vocals/harmonica<br><a href=3D"=
http://www.mikefugazzi.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.mikefugazzi.com</a=
><br>

<a href=3D"http://www.facebook.com/MikeFugazziMusic" target=3D"_blank">Face=
book</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.mikefugazzi.com/fr_customharmonicas.cfm" =
target=3D"_blank">Quicksilver Custom Harmonicas </a><br><br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Boris =
Plotnikov <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ploboris@gmail.com">plobo=
ris@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">

Yesterday I tried POD HD bean in music store. I really liked looper.<br>
It&#39;s much cooler for real livelooping than mine RC-2, fast undo, 1/2<br=
>
speed, reverse. Only 40 secunds or so, but it&#39;s actually enough. But I<=
br>
tried to change patch while looper was in play mode and I couldn&#39;t. No<=
br>
sound after changing patch, loop is going on, but no sound. Maybe I<br>
skip something, as I spent about 20 minutes, but very strange.<br>
<br>
2011/9/22 Gareth Whittock &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:buddhamachine@live.co.uk">b=
uddhamachine@live.co.uk</a>&gt;:<br>
&gt; Well I went ahead and shelled out for a Line6 Pod HD500.<br>
&gt; Here&#39;s what I found:<br>
&gt; 8 effects at once - up to the limit of the DSP - awesome mangling<br>
&gt; possibilities!<br>
&gt; On screen editor - a godsend not to have to bend down with a guitar on=
 your<br>
&gt; lap under the table when you want to play with the sounds.<br>
&gt; Functions as a usb soundcard - simplifies setting up.<br>
&gt; Loads of cool features which you need to read the manual to fully acqu=
aint<br>
&gt; yourself with.<br>
&gt; The looper is ore or less the same as the M13 though with 48 seconds o=
f<br>
&gt; record time instead of 24<br>
&gt; But..<br>
&gt; When you change patches on the pedal ALL of your sound blanks off for =
a<br>
&gt; split second. That includes any swirling, looped gorgeous gooiness you=
 might<br>
&gt; have going -ARGHH!<br>
&gt; Even if you use your computer for loop capture, which is what I do, wh=
en you<br>
&gt; switch patches the sound coming from your DAW mutes briefly.<br>
&gt; The slight good news is that if your recording this into a DAW the aud=
io is<br>
&gt; continuous, it&#39;s only the monitoring that glitches.<br>
&gt; This does however render the pedal a very dubious choice for live loop=
ing.<br>
&gt; I am most disappointed.<br>
&gt; I contacted Line6 and their response was &quot;change patches on your =
loop join&quot;<br>
&gt; They&#39;re thinking phrase looping here aren&#39;t they?<br>
&gt; Fellow loopers - BE WARNED!<br>
&gt; Peace<br>
&gt; G<br>
&gt;<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
Thanks, Boris Plotnikov<br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br>

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GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY:                   http://galactictravels.info
=======================================================================
Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the
month-long Special Focus on Robert Carty.  The Featured CD at Midnight
will be "Starlight Volume 1" by Robert Carty on Deep Sky Music.
Details are at the Special Focus page at:
http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#sep

I will also play music by one of the artists who will be playing at the
next Soundscapes Concert Series on October 2.

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1
FM.  Listen at http://wdiy.org/listen on the internet.

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Thanks Kevin... at first glance it looks like the opposite... all about
sound programming... but looks interesting and have downzoned it for later
consumption...

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando
<billowhead@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hey Mark,
>
> Just saw this and thought of your project ideas.  This may be
> something along the lines of what you're looking to do (or not,
> haven't really delved in myself....yet).
>
> http://computermusicblog.com/blog/sonifyingprocessing/
>
> Kevin
>
> On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Sylvain Poitras
> <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Mark,
> > If your scheme chops are up for it, you should have a look at
> > impromptu.  Even though it's purpose made for live coding, there's
> > nothing that prevents someone from coding in advance and loading the
> > program at the gig...  It allows you to mess directly with opengl
> > objects and create some pretty colours and shapes that change with the
> > beat.  You could send the audio reference from Live to a certain
> > channel on your audio device and have Impromtu read the data from that
> > channel.  A steeper learning curve, but there are some musical payoffs
> > as well (Impromptu can send/receive MIDI or OSC and host AU).
> >
> > the software: http://impromptu.moso.com.au/
> >
> > some graphics tutorials:
> > http://homepage.mac.com/digego/video_tutorial_one.mov
> > http://vimeo.com/4192785
> >
> > demos
> > http://vimeo.com/2735394
> > http://vimeo.com/2502546
> > http://vimeo.com/2433303
> >
> > Sylvain
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 7:52 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
> wrote:
> >> Quite often it occurs on LD that there is a post about creating live
> visuals
> >> to our music. I have always been interested in this, and have always
> tried
> >> to have a visual element to what I do. Recently I have become involved
> in a
> >> new art/music project, basically a looping band, with sensors and
> dancers
> >> and guest speakers and what-not... where we intend on creating a visual
> >> element Live as well. I do not want to use pr-made video loops, and
> although
> >> having a permanent visual member on the band is an exiting option, we
> are
> >> not investigating that just yet.
> >> To that end, I spent this weekend doing a bit of research on VJ
> programs,
> >> and thought Id post my initail finding in my website... HERE!
> >>
> >> http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?p=1449
> >>
> >> Bare in mind the caveats, Im looking for very specific functionality,
> but I
> >> think that my reviews were really all about overall impressions rather
> than
> >> detailed analysis.
> >> Hope some of you find it useful... its been quite an eye-opener for me,
> I'm
> >> even considering making something related, an MA degree project.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mark Francombe
> >> www.markfrancombe.com
> >> www.ordoabkhao.com
> >> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> >> http://www.looop.no
> >> twitter @markfrancombe
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.
>
> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>
> Sound and Vision:  http://www.minds-eye.org
> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos
>
>


-- 
*Mark Francombe*
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe

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Thanks Kevin... at first glance it looks like the opposite... all about sou=
nd programming... but looks interesting and have downzoned it for later con=
sumption...<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 6:00 =
PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:billowhead@=
gmail.com">billowhead@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Hey Mark,<br>
<br>
Just saw this and thought of your project ideas. =A0This may be<br>
something along the lines of what you&#39;re looking to do (or not,<br>
haven&#39;t really delved in myself....yet).<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://computermusicblog.com/blog/sonifyingprocessing/" target=
=3D"_blank">http://computermusicblog.com/blog/sonifyingprocessing/</a><br>
<br>
Kevin<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Sylvain Poitras<br>
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sylvain.trombone@gmail.com">sylvain.trombone@gmail.co=
m</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Mark,<br>
&gt; If your scheme chops are up for it, you should have a look at<br>
&gt; impromptu. =A0Even though it&#39;s purpose made for live coding, there=
&#39;s<br>
&gt; nothing that prevents someone from coding in advance and loading the<b=
r>
&gt; program at the gig... =A0It allows you to mess directly with opengl<br=
>
&gt; objects and create some pretty colours and shapes that change with the=
<br>
&gt; beat. =A0You could send the audio reference from Live to a certain<br>
&gt; channel on your audio device and have Impromtu read the data from that=
<br>
&gt; channel. =A0A steeper learning curve, but there are some musical payof=
fs<br>
&gt; as well (Impromptu can send/receive MIDI or OSC and host AU).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; the software: <a href=3D"http://impromptu.moso.com.au/" target=3D"_bla=
nk">http://impromptu.moso.com.au/</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; some graphics tutorials:<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://homepage.mac.com/digego/video_tutorial_one.mov" targ=
et=3D"_blank">http://homepage.mac.com/digego/video_tutorial_one.mov</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/4192785" target=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.co=
m/4192785</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; demos<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/2735394" target=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.co=
m/2735394</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/2502546" target=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.co=
m/2502546</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/2433303" target=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.co=
m/2433303</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Sylvain<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 7:52 AM, mark francombe &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
mark@markfrancombe.com">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; Quite often it occurs on LD that there is a post about creating li=
ve visuals<br>
&gt;&gt; to our music. I have always been interested in this, and have alwa=
ys tried<br>
&gt;&gt; to have a visual element to what I do. Recently I have become invo=
lved in a<br>
&gt;&gt; new art/music project, basically a looping band, with sensors and =
dancers<br>
&gt;&gt; and guest speakers and what-not... where we intend on creating a v=
isual<br>
&gt;&gt; element Live as well. I do not want to use pr-made video loops, an=
d although<br>
&gt;&gt; having a permanent visual member on the band is an exiting option,=
 we are<br>
&gt;&gt; not investigating that just yet.<br>
&gt;&gt; To that end, I spent this weekend doing a bit of research on VJ pr=
ograms,<br>
&gt;&gt; and thought Id post my initail finding in my website... HERE!<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?p=3D1449" targe=
t=3D"_blank">http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?p=3D1449</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Bare in mind the caveats, Im looking for very specific functionali=
ty, but I<br>
&gt;&gt; think that my reviews were really all about overall impressions ra=
ther than<br>
&gt;&gt; detailed analysis.<br>
&gt;&gt; Hope some of you find it useful... its been quite an eye-opener fo=
r me, I&#39;m<br>
&gt;&gt; even considering making something related, an MA degree project.<b=
r>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; Mark Francombe<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com" target=3D"_blank">www.mar=
kfrancombe.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com" target=3D"_blank">www.ordoab=
khao.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" target=3D"_blank">http://v=
imeo.com/user825094</a><br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.looop.no" target=3D"_blank">http://www.looop=
.no</a><br>
&gt;&gt; twitter @markfrancombe<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</div></div><font color=3D"#888888">--<br>
Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a<br>
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.<=
br>
<br>
- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)<br>
<br>
Sound and Vision:=A0 <a href=3D"http://www.minds-eye.org" target=3D"_blank"=
>http://www.minds-eye.org</a><br>
Video <a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos" target=3D"_blank">=
http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos</a><br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><i style=3D"font=
-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(255, 255, 255);background-color:rgb(0,=
 0, 0)"><font style=3D"font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif" size=3D"4"><u>M=
ark Francombe</u></font></i><br>

<font size=3D"1"><a style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" href=3D"http://www.markf=
rancombe.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br style=3D"colo=
r:rgb(51, 0, 51)"><a style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" href=3D"http://www.ordo=
abkhao.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br style=3D"color:rgb=
(51, 0, 51)">

<a style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" targ=
et=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, =
51)"><a style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" href=3D"http://www.looop.no/" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.looop.no</a><br>

twitter @markfrancombe</font><br>

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It was the integration of the two that caught my attention.  It may
not work as a standalone visualizer but it looked like it might be a
great way to create music and visuals simultaneously.  I hope to give
it a read soon too, but I'm still actually caught between learning how
to use even more gear or actually learning how to actually play the
guitar really well (its a toss up so far).

Kevin

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 11:10 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> w=
rote:
> Thanks Kevin... at first glance it looks like the opposite... all about
> sound programming... but looks interesting and have downzoned it for late=
r
> consumption...
>
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.co=
m>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Mark,
>>
>> Just saw this and thought of your project ideas. =A0This may be
>> something along the lines of what you're looking to do (or not,
>> haven't really delved in myself....yet).
>>
>> http://computermusicblog.com/blog/sonifyingprocessing/
>>
>> Kevin
>>--
Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org
Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos

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Actually, processing is all about artsy visual, animation, interactive
stuff.  The sonifying processing project brings music into processing
so you can mess with sound.  I haven't looked at it in depth, but it
claims to do whatever Max does.  So you can probably sync to Live with
midi or osc.  Add to that all the visual goodness that processing does
and its not a bad option at all (big user community, lots of
tutorials, free software, expandable).

Sylvain


On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 2:10 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wr=
ote:
> Thanks Kevin... at first glance it looks like the opposite... all about
> sound programming... but looks interesting and have downzoned it for late=
r
> consumption...
>
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.co=
m>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Mark,
>>
>> Just saw this and thought of your project ideas. =A0This may be
>> something along the lines of what you're looking to do (or not,
>> haven't really delved in myself....yet).
>>
>> http://computermusicblog.com/blog/sonifyingprocessing/
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Sylvain Poitras
>> <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Mark,
>> > If your scheme chops are up for it, you should have a look at
>> > impromptu. =A0Even though it's purpose made for live coding, there's
>> > nothing that prevents someone from coding in advance and loading the
>> > program at the gig... =A0It allows you to mess directly with opengl
>> > objects and create some pretty colours and shapes that change with the
>> > beat. =A0You could send the audio reference from Live to a certain
>> > channel on your audio device and have Impromtu read the data from that
>> > channel. =A0A steeper learning curve, but there are some musical payof=
fs
>> > as well (Impromptu can send/receive MIDI or OSC and host AU).
>> >
>> > the software: http://impromptu.moso.com.au/
>> >
>> > some graphics tutorials:
>> > http://homepage.mac.com/digego/video_tutorial_one.mov
>> > http://vimeo.com/4192785
>> >
>> > demos
>> > http://vimeo.com/2735394
>> > http://vimeo.com/2502546
>> > http://vimeo.com/2433303
>> >
>> > Sylvain
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 7:52 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.co=
m>
>> > wrote:
>> >> Quite often it occurs on LD that there is a post about creating live
>> >> visuals
>> >> to our music. I have always been interested in this, and have always
>> >> tried
>> >> to have a visual element to what I do. Recently I have become involve=
d
>> >> in a
>> >> new art/music project, basically a looping band, with sensors and
>> >> dancers
>> >> and guest speakers and what-not... where we intend on creating a visu=
al
>> >> element Live as well. I do not want to use pr-made video loops, and
>> >> although
>> >> having a permanent visual member on the band is an exiting option, we
>> >> are
>> >> not investigating that just yet.
>> >> To that end, I spent this weekend doing a bit of research on VJ
>> >> programs,
>> >> and thought Id post my initail finding in my website... HERE!
>> >>
>> >> http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?p=3D1449
>> >>
>> >> Bare in mind the caveats, Im looking for very specific functionality,
>> >> but I
>> >> think that my reviews were really all about overall impressions rathe=
r
>> >> than
>> >> detailed analysis.
>> >> Hope some of you find it useful... its been quite an eye-opener for m=
e,
>> >> I'm
>> >> even considering making something related, an MA degree project.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Mark Francombe
>> >> www.markfrancombe.com
>> >> www.ordoabkhao.com
>> >> http://vimeo.com/user825094
>> >> http://www.looop.no
>> >> twitter @markfrancombe
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
>> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all troubl=
e.
>>
>> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>>
>> Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org
>> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Mark Francombe
> www.markfrancombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no
> twitter @markfrancombe
>

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On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com
> wrote:

> Actually, processing is all about artsy visual, animation, interactive
> stuff.  The sonifying processing project brings music into processing
> so you can mess with sound.
>


I have delved a for a few moments now...

http://computermusicblog.com/blog/sonifyingprocessing/

and I must say that Im not terribly interested. Processing is primarily a
programmers tool. Of course more and more programming is required in many
forms of art, as the computer has become such a vital tool. I have tried and
tried to program, and have struggled with Java and Action script, have cut n
pasted in C in all its forms for game programming, Ive scripted Mobius...
and so it will be, and more so, I have no doubt... in the future... but Ive
never become able to truly produce my dreams...

Every so often Ive come back to Processing thru one arty video forum or
another, and... I must say...

I have yet to see anything interesting done in Processing!

(Ducks behind fire hydrant, spanner in hand).
Flash! yes, Game Engines... Oh my god YES! Even html yes yes yes..
Processing seems to get people making... well.. tiny little visual
experiments... kind of nice.. but nothing really with any real conceptual
meat!
Its like in my company, the programmers sit in one room with PC's and the
designers sit in another with macs... and we all meet once in a while to
discuss what we need from each other...and you know, I think thats the right
approach..
When programmers try to produce art, its never Art, its always like a demo
or a small "look what I can do" boast... (now I can feel Im really ducking
molotov cocktails)...
To me, Art has heart.
In a way it why the beginning of my seach for a visual music tool, was the
VJ world.. because this world is NOT ROCKET SCIENCE... they want an instant
hit, instant satisfaction and immediate feedback, thats not art either, but
certainly the immediacy of the VJ approach is more in tune with my musical
world of improvisation, act and react.

Having taken that route I have over shot the simplicity of these programs
and find that I do need something more complex and in depth, because Im not
interested in doing the same as many before me...and have found myself at a
place where I do need to learn some programming, but using a visual
programming approach, rather than scripting.

hope I havent ruffled any feathers, and if people can point me in the
direction of some truly outstanding Processing stuff, then I cant wait to be
amazed!

m

>
-- 
*Mark Francombe*
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe

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On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Sylvain Poitras <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:sylvain.trombone@gmail.com">sylvain.trombone@gmail.com</a>&gt=
;</span> wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex=
;">

Actually, processing is all about artsy visual, animation, interactive<br>
stuff. =A0The sonifying processing project brings music into processing<br>
so you can mess with sound. <br></blockquote><div class=3D"h5"><br><br>I ha=
ve delved a for a few moments now... <br><br>
<a href=3D"http://computermusicblog.com/blog/sonifyingprocessing/" target=
=3D"_blank">http://computermusicblog.com/blog/sonifyingprocessing/</a><br><=
br>and I must say that Im not terribly interested. Processing is primarily =
a programmers tool. Of course more and more programming is required in many=
 forms of art, as the computer has become such a vital tool. I have tried a=
nd tried to program, and have struggled with Java and Action script, have c=
ut n pasted in C in all its forms for game programming, Ive scripted Mobius=
... and so it will be, and more so, I have no doubt... in the future... but=
 Ive never become able to truly produce my dreams...<br>

<br>Every so often Ive come back to Processing thru one arty video forum or=
 another, and... I must say... <br><br>I have yet to see anything interesti=
ng done in Processing!<br><br>(Ducks behind fire hydrant, spanner in hand).=
<br>

Flash! yes, Game Engines... Oh my god YES! Even html yes yes yes.. Processi=
ng seems to get people making... well.. tiny little visual experiments... k=
ind of nice.. but nothing really with any real conceptual meat! <br>Its lik=
e in my company, the programmers sit in one room with PC&#39;s and the desi=
gners sit in another with macs... and we all meet once in a while to discus=
s what we need from each other...and you know, I think thats the right appr=
oach.. <br>

When programmers try to produce art, its never Art, its always like a demo =
or a small &quot;look what I can do&quot; boast... (now I can feel Im reall=
y ducking molotov cocktails)... <br>To me, Art has heart.<br>In a way it wh=
y the beginning of my seach for a visual music tool, was the VJ world.. bec=
ause this world is NOT ROCKET SCIENCE... they want an instant hit, instant =
satisfaction and immediate feedback, thats not art either, but certainly th=
e immediacy of the VJ approach is more in tune with my musical world of imp=
rovisation, act and react. <br>

<br>Having taken that route I have over shot the simplicity of these progra=
ms and find that I do need something more complex and in depth, because Im =
not interested in doing the same as many before me...and have found myself =
at a place where I do need to learn some programming, but using a visual pr=
ogramming approach, rather than scripting.<br>

<br>hope I havent ruffled any feathers, and if people can point me in the d=
irection of some truly outstanding Processing stuff, then I cant wait to be=
 amazed!<br><br>m<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-le=
ft: 1ex;">

<div></div></blockquote></div><br>-- <br><i style=3D"font-family:verdana,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(255, 255, 255);background-color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><font styl=
e=3D"font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif" size=3D"4"><u>Mark Francombe</u><=
/font></i><br>

<font size=3D"1"><a style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" href=3D"http://www.markf=
rancombe.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br style=3D"colo=
r:rgb(51, 0, 51)"><a style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" href=3D"http://www.ordo=
abkhao.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br style=3D"color:rgb=
(51, 0, 51)">

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I also would like to hear from anyone at Looperlative, as I have received
absolutely no reply to any of my inquiries.

My order is paid in full, and I fear for the health of my wealth (not that
I've got any).

G

 

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From: Joe Clark [mailto:lonelylooper@hotmail.com] 
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Yes please????

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From: paulsull@earthlink.net
Subject: Looperlative LP-2
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:39:01 -0400
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

HI,

 

just wondering if anyone has heard if there are any further updates on the
progress of the back ordered parts, etc. of the LP-2? Last update was 2
months ago, and there has been no reply to the facebook queries.

 

Thanks,

Paul

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Subject: Looperlative LP-2<br>
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:39:01 -0400<br>
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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Paul Sullivan wrote:
> HI,
>
> just wondering if anyone has heard if there are any further updates on 
> the progress of the back ordered parts, etc. of the LP-2? Last update 
> was 2 months ago, and there has been no reply to the facebook queries.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul
>
> http://paulsullivan.com
>
>
>
>
>
Very close now, Paul.   Bob finally got in the aluminum bodies
(which had been the major hangup for months) and are now getting
them stenciled..........I haven't talked with Bob in a week but he's ready
to start turning them out quickly as soon as he has the bodies
in hand and finished.

yours,  Rick Walker

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Thanks for the update, Rick.
BTW, as a way of amending my previous statement, I have ONLY heard from our
dayglo friend. As he informs me that he is not an actual employee of the
company in question, I feel all right about stating that I have had no
communication from the company--I guess Bob IS Looperlative.
Gary

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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Paul Sullivan wrote:
> HI,
>
> just wondering if anyone has heard if there are any further updates on 
> the progress of the back ordered parts, etc. of the LP-2? Last update 
> was 2 months ago, and there has been no reply to the facebook queries.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul
>
> http://paulsullivan.com
>
>
>
>
>
Very close now, Paul.   Bob finally got in the aluminum bodies
(which had been the major hangup for months) and are now getting
them stenciled..........I haven't talked with Bob in a week but he's ready
to start turning them out quickly as soon as he has the bodies
in hand and finished.

yours,  Rick Walker

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How much are they?
On Sep 22, 2011 10:44 PM, "Rick Walker" <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Paul Sullivan wrote:
>> HI,
>>
>> just wondering if anyone has heard if there are any further updates on
>> the progress of the back ordered parts, etc. of the LP-2? Last update
>> was 2 months ago, and there has been no reply to the facebook queries.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> http://paulsullivan.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Very close now, Paul. Bob finally got in the aluminum bodies
> (which had been the major hangup for months) and are now getting
> them stenciled..........I haven't talked with Bob in a week but he's ready
> to start turning them out quickly as soon as he has the bodies
> in hand and finished.
>
> yours, Rick Walker
>

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<p>How much are they?</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep 22, 2011 10:44 PM, &quot;Rick Walker&quot=
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ote:<br type=3D"attribution">&gt; On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Paul Sullivan wrote:=
<br>
&gt;&gt; HI,<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; just wondering if anyone has heard if =
there are any further updates on <br>&gt;&gt; the progress of the back orde=
red parts, etc. of the LP-2? Last update <br>&gt;&gt; was 2 months ago, and=
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&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; Thanks,<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; Paul<br>&g=
t;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://paulsullivan.com">http://paulsullivan.=
com</a><br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;=
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t; them stenciled..........I haven&#39;t talked with Bob in a week but he&#=
39;s ready<br>&gt; to start turning them out quickly as soon as he has the =
bodies<br>
&gt; in hand and finished.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; yours,  Rick Walker<br>&gt; <br=
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Per Boysen wrote:
>
> Most things on the box can be used as source to trigger
> such an Internal Expression Pedal - but unfortunately not signal at
> the audio input, like Duke teased us with from the VG99.

You mean route a Modulation Source to modulate/control another 
Modulation Source?  Oh, that's a feature request I've had into Roland 
since probably the very first week the VG-99 was released back in 2007. 
  Unfortunately, Roland doesn't seem to pay any real attention to user 
requests (else they would've added Feedback to their RC-series Phrase 
Samplers ages ago, or hired Bill Ruppert to design their factory presets).

There are certain parameters that are classified as 'Sources', and 
others that are classified as 'Destinations'.  And ne'er the twain shall 
meet, it seems.  I'd love to be able to use Input Level or the Internal 
Pedal to modulate the speed of the LFO on the Wave Pedal, for instance. 
  Or use the Wave Pedal's LFO to re-trigger the Internal Pedal's 
envelope periodically, over-&-over again.

Unfortunately, those functions are all together in the 'Source' box, and 
can't be used to modulate each other.  Bummer.

One good thing is that there are a bazillion other destinations, though, 
so you can often find a workaround.  For instance, I don't think the 
Wave Pedal modulates fast enough, so I'd originally wanted to chain one 
Wave Pedal into a second to modulate it FM-style.  That wasn't possible 
(Wave Pedal is a source and only a source, remember).  But I was able to 
route several different instances of the Wave Pedal into a single 
destination, in order to get a similar effect.  Not quite the same, but 
workable in many instances.

As for Input Level, one of my favorite tricks is to route it into an Amp 
or EQ parameter so that the playing dynamics effect the tone of the COSM 
model.  Even better is that the Vari-Guitar COSM model will allow you to 
set the position and angle of the pickups.  (Aside: ever wanted to 
recreate the effect that Hendrix, for instance, played a right-handed 
Strat strung upside-down and played left-handed, so the angle of his 
pickups was reversed?  Well, here's your chance to design a guitar 
that's like that.)  I've used Input Level to re-position the pickup and 
change the angle, so that the playing dynamics actually move the pickup 
as you're playing.

That's also a neat way to replicate the Tele's tendency to roll off the 
low end as you back off the Volume Knob.  Just route the GK-Volume Knob 
(or any other source, like a Volume Pedal, for that matter) to pickup 
position/angle, and have the pickup move back closer to the bridge as 
you turn the volume down.  Sounds great while doing volume swells.  I 
wish that you could do this on all the guitar models.  But the Variable 
Guitar is pretty design-your-own, so you can cover a lot of ground with 
just that.

Anyway, looking forward to seeing some of the cool stuff you come up with!

	-m-

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Hi Michiel,
Sorry for not getting to you earlier been busy.
i dont know if u have the UnO chip on your Behringer,i do and this is
the way i set it up to turn the stomp boxes on and off in amplitube.
It might be similar with the normal fcb1010,if not check the manual
how you can enable toggel mode.

fist we have to go to "global mode" to configure the fcb1010:

GLOBAL MODE
1. while press the "down" button  turn the fcb1010 on
2.you are now in step 1 on the fcb1010 but we want to go to step 2 so
press the up button once
3. we want to enable the CC buttons to "toggle mode",switch 8 enables
the CNT1 button and button 9 the CNT2 to toggle.
   you only need to enable the CNT1 so to do this press button number
8 until it lights up
4. now we need to get out of global mode so just press the down button.

PRESET MODE
5.now lets say we want to control the delays on and off switch on
amplitube with FCB1010 button number one.
   we need to go into "preset configuration" by pressing the "down"
button for 2 seconds
6. press the up button twice and press button # 6 which is the CNT1
7.give it a CC1 then give it values 00 and 127
8.get out of preset mode by pushing button down for 2 seconds.
now try it see if it works!
let me know
cheers
Luis


cheers
Luis


On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Michiel de Jong <m.dejong02@chello.nl> wro=
te:
> Hi Louie,
> I just stumbled on a thread you started related to Amplitube 3 &=A0 The
> FCB1010. Hope you don=92t mind I ask you some questions, but I just got m=
e a
> FCB1010 and aren=92t able to get it working with Amplitube 3. Could you g=
ive
> me some pointers what should do and try?
> I already read some threads around this topic, watched the youtube videos
> made by JasTheMusicman, and downloaded a program called FCB1010 Midi Edit=
or
> (v2.99-2), but still I haven't been able to get things working.

> My setup is like followed:
>
> Windows XP (SP2), Amplitube 3.5.2, FCB1010 Midi Editor, Behringer FCB1010
> and EMU X Midi 1x1 Tab USB-MIDI Interface.

> When I press the knobs on the FCB1010 Floorboard the "Midi In" box left
> under in the corner of Amplitube lights up. So there is Midi comming in. =
But
> that's about it. Also have been fooling around with the Midi learn sectio=
n.
> But no matter what I do after I activate learn in Amplitube it keeps wait=
ing
> for Midi input.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Michiel



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That is great news!  I am looking forward to getting mine!

Weg

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

>  On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Paul Sullivan wrote:
>
>> HI,
>>
>> just wondering if anyone has heard if there are any further updates on the
>> progress of the back ordered parts, etc. of the LP-2? Last update was 2
>> months ago, and there has been no reply to the facebook queries.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> http://paulsullivan.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Very close now, Paul.   Bob finally got in the aluminum bodies
> (which had been the major hangup for months) and are now getting
> them stenciled..........I haven't talked with Bob in a week but he's ready
> to start turning them out quickly as soon as he has the bodies
> in hand and finished.
>
> yours,  Rick Walker
>
>


-- 
Greg Wegmann

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<div>That is great news!=A0 I am looking forward to getting mine!</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Weg<br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Rick Walker <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:looppool@cruzio.com">looppool@cruzio.=
com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<div>
<div></div>
<div class=3D"h5">On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Paul Sullivan wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">HI,<br><br>just wondering if any=
one has heard if there are any further updates on the progress of the back =
ordered parts, etc. of the LP-2? Last update was 2 months ago, and there ha=
s been no reply to the facebook queries.<br>
<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Paul<br><br><a href=3D"http://paulsullivan.com/" tar=
get=3D"_blank">http://paulsullivan.com</a><br><br><br><br><br><br></blockqu=
ote></div></div>Very close now, Paul. =A0 Bob finally got in the aluminum b=
odies<br>
(which had been the major hangup for months) and are now getting<br>them st=
enciled..........I haven&#39;t talked with Bob in a week but he&#39;s ready=
<br>to start turning them out quickly as soon as he has the bodies<br>in ha=
nd and finished.<br>
<br>yours, =A0Rick Walker<br><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><=
br>-- <br>
<div>Greg Wegmann<br><br><a href=3D"mailto:TheWeg@Frontier.com" target=3D"_=
blank">TheWeg@Frontier.com</a></div>
<div>TheWeg@GMail.com<br></div><br>

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Hi All,=0A=A0=0Athis is semi-OT, I am looking for input on the good points/=
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t small venues for more standard rock and roll songs, as well as the occasi=
onal looping gig. He is in love with the real skins, will he be able to liv=
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<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto">&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"RIGHT: auto">this is semi-OT, I am looking for input on the g=
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using one of these units in my looping rig, but also hope to have my drumme=
r join me at small venues for more standard rock and roll songs, as well as=
 the occasional looping gig. He <VAR id=3Dyui-ie-cursor></VAR>is in love wi=
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we have used Audition to mix a multitrack piece, now we need to export each
of the tracks to wav files to use in another DAW. Does anyone know how to
export an audio track (sometimes a track contains several clips), including
the changes done to it in the session view, to a new audio track? this is
such a basic task but we can't find out how to do it. There is an export
function but it only creates a mixdown of all tracks.

-Michael

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Well, I do give Rick credit for keeping us up to date with honest answers
about the progress.

I'm definitely looking forward to adding a second independent looper to my
rig, even if it means I have to start thinking about how I'm actually going
to reroute all the signals.

-- 
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On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Clayton Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net> wrote:

> Thanks for the update, Rick.
> BTW, as a way of amending my previous statement, I have ONLY heard from our
> dayglo friend. As he informs me that he is not an actual employee of the
> company in question, I feel all right about stating that I have had no
> communication from the company--I guess Bob IS Looperlative.
> Gary
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Walker [mailto:looppool@cruzio.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 8:44 PM
> To: Paul Sullivan; LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)
> Subject: Re: Looperlative LP-2
>
> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Paul Sullivan wrote:
> > HI,
> >
> > just wondering if anyone has heard if there are any further updates on
> > the progress of the back ordered parts, etc. of the LP-2? Last update
> > was 2 months ago, and there has been no reply to the facebook queries.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > http://paulsullivan.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Very close now, Paul.   Bob finally got in the aluminum bodies
> (which had been the major hangup for months) and are now getting
> them stenciled..........I haven't talked with Bob in a week but he's ready
> to start turning them out quickly as soon as he has the bodies
> in hand and finished.
>
> yours,  Rick Walker
>
>

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Well, I do give Rick credit for keeping us up to date with honest answers a=
bout the progress. <br><br>I&#39;m definitely looking forward to adding a s=
econd independent looper to my rig, even if it means I have to start thinki=
ng about how I&#39;m actually going to reroute all the signals.<br>
<br>-- <br>Matt Davignon<br><a href=3D"mailto:mattdavignon@gmail.com" targe=
t=3D"_blank">mattdavignon@gmail.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.ribosomemu=
sic.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.ribosomemusic.com</a><br>Podcast! <a href=
=3D"http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://ribosomema=
tt.podomatic.com</a><br>
Rigs! <a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt" target=3D"_blank=
">http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt</a><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote">On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Clayton Gary Lehmann <span dir=3D"lt=
r">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hqr@cox.net">hqr@cox.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Thanks for the up=
date, Rick.<br>
BTW, as a way of amending my previous statement, I have ONLY heard from our=
<br>
dayglo friend. As he informs me that he is not an actual employee of the<br=
>
company in question, I feel all right about stating that I have had no<br>
communication from the company--I guess Bob IS Looperlative.<br>
Gary<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Rick Walker [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:looppool@cruzio.com">looppool@c=
ruzio.com</a>]<br>
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 8:44 PM<br>
To: Paul Sullivan; LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)<br>
Subject: Re: Looperlative LP-2<br>
<br>
On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Paul Sullivan wrote:<br>
&gt; HI,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; just wondering if anyone has heard if there are any further updates on=
<br>
&gt; the progress of the back ordered parts, etc. of the LP-2? Last update<=
br>
&gt; was 2 months ago, and there has been no reply to the facebook queries.=
<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thanks,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Paul<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://paulsullivan.com" target=3D"_blank">http://paulsulli=
van.com</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
Very close now, Paul. =A0 Bob finally got in the aluminum bodies<br>
(which had been the major hangup for months) and are now getting<br>
them stenciled..........I haven&#39;t talked with Bob in a week but he&#39;=
s ready<br>
to start turning them out quickly as soon as he has the bodies<br>
in hand and finished.<br>
<br>
yours, =A0Rick Walker<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>

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Yes, I pretty much bought the LP-2 based on Rick=92s =
recommendation=97and I
understand it to be built to his specifications.
I went ahead and bought a =91Rang III to replace the RC-20 I used for =
many
years until it broke . . . and currently am dragging an EDP to gigs just =
to
have an additional delay with feedback control (these modern loopers all
have the same Achilles heel . . .)
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seldom
keeps me from adding stuff . . . change is good!

________________________________________
From: Matt Davignon [mailto:mattdavignon@gmail.com]=20
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Well, I do give Rick credit for keeping us up to date with honest =
answers
about the progress.=20

I'm definitely looking forward to adding a second independent looper to =
my
rig, even if it means I have to start thinking about how I'm actually =
going
to reroute all the signals.

--=20
Matt Davignon

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(which had been the major hangup for months) and are now getting
them stenciled..........I haven't talked with Bob in a week but he's =
ready
to start turning them out quickly as soon as he has the bodies
in hand and finished.

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As an old Cool Edit user there was a function for Mixdown but I don't think 
it let you select which tracks to do this to.  I think you have to mute all 
but the track in question, and then export.

-----Original Message----- 
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we have used Audition to mix a multitrack piece, now we need to export each
of the tracks to wav files to use in another DAW. Does anyone know how to
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such a basic task but we can't find out how to do it. There is an export
function but it only creates a mixdown of all tracks.

-Michael 

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I have two edps that I will sell for these. Depending on how much they cost,
I might buy three or four. Would be cool to have loopers in between effects,
adding different pedal combos/textures to each new layer.
On Sep 23, 2011 5:43 PM, "Matt Davignon" <mattdavignon@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, I do give Rick credit for keeping us up to date with honest answers
> about the progress.
>
> I'm definitely looking forward to adding a second independent looper to my
> rig, even if it means I have to start thinking about how I'm actually
going
> to reroute all the signals.
>
> --
> Matt Davignon
> mattdavignon@gmail.com
> www.ribosomemusic.com
> Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com
> Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt
>
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Clayton Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the update, Rick.
>> BTW, as a way of amending my previous statement, I have ONLY heard from
our
>> dayglo friend. As he informs me that he is not an actual employee of the
>> company in question, I feel all right about stating that I have had no
>> communication from the company--I guess Bob IS Looperlative.
>> Gary
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rick Walker [mailto:looppool@cruzio.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 8:44 PM
>> To: Paul Sullivan; LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)
>> Subject: Re: Looperlative LP-2
>>
>> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Paul Sullivan wrote:
>> > HI,
>> >
>> > just wondering if anyone has heard if there are any further updates on
>> > the progress of the back ordered parts, etc. of the LP-2? Last update
>> > was 2 months ago, and there has been no reply to the facebook queries.
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Paul
>> >
>> > http://paulsullivan.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> Very close now, Paul. Bob finally got in the aluminum bodies
>> (which had been the major hangup for months) and are now getting
>> them stenciled..........I haven't talked with Bob in a week but he's
ready
>> to start turning them out quickly as soon as he has the bodies
>> in hand and finished.
>>
>> yours, Rick Walker
>>
>>

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<p>I have two edps that I will sell for these. Depending on how much they c=
ost, I might buy three or four. Would be cool to have loopers in between ef=
fects, adding different pedal combos/textures to each new layer.</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep 23, 2011 5:43 PM, &quot;Matt Davignon&quo=
t; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mattdavignon@gmail.com">mattdavignon@gmail.com</a>=
&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution">&gt; Well, I do give Rick credit for ke=
eping us up to date with honest answers<br>
&gt; about the progress.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; I&#39;m definitely looking forwar=
d to adding a second independent looper to my<br>&gt; rig, even if it means=
 I have to start thinking about how I&#39;m actually going<br>&gt; to rerou=
te all the signals.<br>
&gt; <br>&gt; -- <br>&gt; Matt Davignon<br>&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:mattdavig=
non@gmail.com">mattdavignon@gmail.com</a><br>&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.rib=
osomemusic.com">www.ribosomemusic.com</a><br>&gt; Podcast! <a href=3D"http:=
//ribosomematt.podomatic.com">http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com</a><br>
&gt; Rigs! <a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt">http://www.=
youtube.com/user/ribosomematt</a><br>&gt; <br>&gt; On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at =
9:38 PM, Clayton Gary Lehmann &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hqr@cox.net">hqr@cox.ne=
t</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>&gt;&gt; Thanks for the update, Rick.<br>&gt;&gt; BTW, as a way of=
 amending my previous statement, I have ONLY heard from our<br>&gt;&gt; day=
glo friend. As he informs me that he is not an actual employee of the<br>
&gt;&gt; company in question, I feel all right about stating that I have ha=
d no<br>&gt;&gt; communication from the company--I guess Bob IS Looperlativ=
e.<br>&gt;&gt; Gary<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt;&gt; From: Rick Walker [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:looppool@cruzio.com">l=
ooppool@cruzio.com</a>]<br>&gt;&gt; Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 8:44=
 PM<br>&gt;&gt; To: Paul Sullivan; LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)<br>&gt;&gt; Su=
bject: Re: Looperlative LP-2<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Paul Sullivan wrote:<br>&gt;&gt; =
&gt; HI,<br>&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;&gt; &gt; just wondering if anyone has hea=
rd if there are any further updates on<br>&gt;&gt; &gt; the progress of the=
 back ordered parts, etc. of the LP-2? Last update<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; was 2 months ago, and there has been no reply to the facebook=
 queries.<br>&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;&gt; &gt; Thanks,<br>&gt=
;&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;&gt; &gt; Paul<br>&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;&gt; &gt; <a href=
=3D"http://paulsullivan.com">http://paulsullivan.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;&gt=
; &gt;<br>&gt;&gt; Very close now, Paul.   Bob finally got in the aluminum =
bodies<br>&gt;&gt; (which had been the major hangup for months) and are now=
 getting<br>
&gt;&gt; them stenciled..........I haven&#39;t talked with Bob in a week bu=
t he&#39;s ready<br>&gt;&gt; to start turning them out quickly as soon as h=
e has the bodies<br>&gt;&gt; in hand and finished.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; =
yours,  Rick Walker<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br></div>

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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Michael Peters wrote:
> ............Does anyone know how to
> export an audio track (sometimes a track contains several clips), including
> the changes done to it in the session view, to a new audio track? .........
>
A simple way to do this is to bring up your completed session.

1)  Mute all tracks but the one you want exported
and export a stereo wave file of the entire piece.

All that will be exported will be that individual track,  with all of
it's attendant processing.

Just do this with each individual track.  A bit of a pain but doable.

Otherwise,  figure out where Audition stores all of it's
raw data.   There has to be a file where everything is stored.

These files may be numbered instead of titled but generally
speaking opening one up will reveal it's contents.

Let me know if you are still having trouble with it and  I'll see what i 
can do to help out

yours,   Rick Walker

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On Sep 23, 2011, at 1:30 PM, E Gross wrote:

> I am looking for input on the good points/bad points of the Korg  
> Wavedrum versus the Handsonic

I have only used the Wavedrum.
It has a drummerly responsive feel, works fine with sticks. You can  
tune the head and assign different things to the rim.
The standard sound samples are considered good, I don't have enough  
experience to compare to have an opinion.
I did not do any programming, looks like you need patience but changes  
can be saved to user presets.
My main complaints are that switching between presets is slow and some  
of the presets, especially the synthy ones, are not that interesting  
at least to me -- there are no glitchy electronic kit presets for  
instance. No MIDI.

The main point about the Handsonic is the MIDI.
I think this makes it more versatile but seems you would need software/ 
laptop to take full advantage. So it functions as a controller but  
then latency issues would have to be compensated I suppose.

regards

BobC


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>
> Just do this with each individual track.  A bit of a pain but doable.
>
> Otherwise,  figure out where Audition stores all of it's
> raw data.   There has to be a file where everything is stored.
>
> These files may be numbered instead of titled but generally
> speaking opening one up will reveal it's contents.
>
I got around this problem by always saving everything to it's own 
folder, and renaming tracks
to Artist-Song-Instument name-iteration.

So that...

DM-TBT-Prophecy-(patch name)-(FX Chain)

equals "David Messenger-Truth Be True-Prophecy-in the 
drain-(C)ompression-(R)everb-(D)elay"
which shows as...

DM-TBT-Prophecy-ITD-C-R-D

...in the file name.

SO the whole song rests in a folder named DM-TBT, and all the tracks in 
that folder are identifiable. and idiosyncratic-through the entire 
effects chain-you have a non-destuctive path back to the original file 
as you are saving the track each time you make a change, and your undo's 
are native to your production process.. It also allows you to use a 
different drive for storage so that if you C drive goes down all your 
stuff is on another drive, and easily can be backed up-copied to another 
drive for redundancy.

Hope that helps.

D.

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The Trick here is to use "save as" and point the file type to "Windows 
PCM". Then export the files one at a time
by creating a new session in your other DAW and add each file 
individually to that session. This can be a problem if your files don't 
all start at the same time-you lose your timing. I got around this by 
adding space to all files so they all started at the 0.00 point of the 
song. That way when you add the files to your DAW session they all start 
at the same time. You have to think of Audition as a giant tape machine 
to get the concept, but once you get used to all tracks needing to start 
at the same time, with space before the actual track content start point 
it gets really intuitive.


D.


On 9/23/2011 5:16 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote:
> As an old Cool Edit user there was a function for Mixdown but I don't 
> think it let you select which tracks to do this to.  I think you have 
> to mute all but the track in question, and then export.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Michael Peters
> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 10:15 PM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Adobe Audition anyone?
>
> we have used Audition to mix a multitrack piece, now we need to export 
> each
> of the tracks to wav files to use in another DAW. Does anyone know how to
> export an audio track (sometimes a track contains several clips), 
> including
> the changes done to it in the session view, to a new audio track? this is
> such a basic task but we can't find out how to do it. There is an export
> function but it only creates a mixdown of all tracks.
>
> -Michael
>
>

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The Trick here is to use "save as" and point the file type to "Windows 
PCM". Then export the files one at a time
by creating a new session in your other DAW and add each file 
individually to that session. This can be a problem if your files don't 
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at the same time. You have to think of Audition as a giant tape machine 
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at the same time, with space before the actual track content start point 
it gets really intuitive.


D.

On 9/23/2011 5:16 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote:
> As an old Cool Edit user there was a function for Mixdown but I don't 
> think it let you select which tracks to do this to.  I think you have 
> to mute all but the track in question, and then export.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Michael Peters
> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 10:15 PM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Adobe Audition anyone?
>
> we have used Audition to mix a multitrack piece, now we need to export 
> each
> of the tracks to wav files to use in another DAW. Does anyone know how to
> export an audio track (sometimes a track contains several clips), 
> including
> the changes done to it in the session view, to a new audio track? this is
> such a basic task but we can't find out how to do it. There is an export
> function but it only creates a mixdown of all tracks.
>
> -Michael
>
>

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Audition 3 possibly has a single function to do this,
but it's now unavailable...
Audition 5.5 ? who knows *(see below)

I'd use 

Edit>Bounce to New Track>Selected Audio Clips

to combine the clips
that make up each track (and render any fx/vol/eq).
As long as the selection is the whole length of the track it'll create
a suitable single file.
Repeat for each track.

Then delete the source clips before "Save Session As".

Audition Tip:
when cutting up a longish file into clips for re-positioning
be sure to use "Convert to Unique Copy". The price for not
doing this is, for a complex session, is that Audition will
take ages to load the whole file for each clip on bootup.



andy
ps * Audition's in a bad way, the re-written ver5.5 (for mac compatibility)
misses out a load of functions, while Adobe won't let you buy ver3 
any more. 


Michael Peters wrote:
> we have used Audition to mix a multitrack piece, now we need to export each
> of the tracks to wav files to use in another DAW. Does anyone know how to
> export an audio track (sometimes a track contains several clips), including
> the changes done to it in the session view, to a new audio track? this is
> such a basic task but we can't find out how to do it. There is an export
> function but it only creates a mixdown of all tracks.
> 
> -Michael
> 
> 

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> I think you have to mute all but the track in question, and then export.


thanks all. I did it this way and although Cooledit /Audition behaves a bit
strangely, it worked

-Michael

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http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/110922.html

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem,
PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet.  WDIY also broadcasts
in Digital HD at 88.1 FM.

                 Show #755                September 22, 2011.

RECAP:
On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Robert Carty.  The
Featured CD at Midnight was "Starlight Volume 1" on Deep Sky Music.
http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#sep

I also played music by one of the artists who will play at the
Soundscapes Concert Series on Sunday, October 2.  See the Events Page
for details.
http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/events.html


PLAYLIST:

11:04 pm
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Kevin Braheny        Starflight 1 *       Galaxies (Hearts of Space)
Vic Hennegan         Japa                 Field of Worlds and Mirrors
                                             (Alien Tribes Music)
Paul Ellis           From Out of the Vast From Out of the Vast Comes
                        Comes Nearness       Nearness (Lotuspike)
Mario Schonwalder    Cup 8                Filter-Kaffee 101 (Syngate)
   Frank Rothe
VA [Chuck Van Zyl]   performance at OTP   Home Patterning (Periphery)
Steve Brand          Morning Glory        Avatara (relaxedMACHINERY)

12:00 am
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Robert Carty         Polaris              Starlight Vol. 1 (Deep Sky)
Robert Carty         Enveloping Space     Starlight Vol. 1 (Deep Sky)
Robert Carty         Moonrise             Starlight Vol. 1 (Deep Sky)
Robert Carty         Saturn's Song        Starlight Vol. 1 (Deep Sky)
Robert Carty         Attracting Light     Starlight Vol. 1 (Deep Sky)
Robert Carty         Starburst            Starlight Vol. 1 (Deep Sky)
Robert Carty         Deep Into the Night  Starlight Vol. 1 (Deep Sky)
Robert Carty         Splendrous Starlight Starlight Vol. 1 (Deep Sky)

1:00 am

  * = excerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
++ = Advance CDR from Artist
-- = Background music under interview


NEXT SHOW:
On the next Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long focus on
Robert Carty.  The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Starlight Volume 2"
on Deep Sky Music.

Dean De Benedictis and Vic Hennegan will play a live set from the
studios of WDIY.

Bill
========================================================================
Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show,
Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in
Trexlertown and Fogelsville.  WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio
on 88.1 FM.
Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info
Listen to WDIY on-line.

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When it becomes released, I'm thinking about selling my two EDPs for either
three or four LP2s.

Outside of the site, where can I find function / price information?

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When it becomes released, I&#39;m thinking about selling my two EDPs for either three or four LP2s.<div><br></div><div>Outside of the site, where can I find function / price information?</div>

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I would suggest doing a search of the LD archives, that's probably as good a
place as any to get clues.
We will all know more when this thing finally materializes . . .
Gnarly
________________________________________
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When it becomes released, I'm thinking about selling my two EDPs for either
three or four LP2s.

Outside of the site, where can I find function / price information?

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Given that the pedal hasn't been released yet, I would imagine that the best
place to find the information would be on the looperlative website:

http://www.looperlative.com/proddetail.php?prod=LP2

For descriptions for some of the functions (like "replace" and "continuous
retrigger"), check the LD archives. Rick described them in detail several
months ago.

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On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 11:59 PM, Clayton Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net> wrote:

> I would suggest doing a search of the LD archives, that's probably as good
> a
> place as any to get clues.
> We will all know more when this thing finally materializes . . .
> Gnarly
> ________________________________________
> From: marcus kirby [mailto:marcusloops@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 7:10 PM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Info on LP2
>
> When it becomes released, I'm thinking about selling my two EDPs for either
> three or four LP2s.
>
> Outside of the site, where can I find function / price information?
>
>

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Given that the pedal hasn&#39;t been released yet, I would imagine that the=
 best place to find the information would be on the looperlative website: <=
br><br><a href=3D"http://www.looperlative.com/proddetail.php?prod=3DLP2">ht=
tp://www.looperlative.com/proddetail.php?prod=3DLP2</a><br>
<br>For descriptions for some of the functions (like &quot;replace&quot; an=
d &quot;continuous retrigger&quot;), check the LD archives. Rick described =
them in detail several months ago. <br><br>-- <br>Matt Davignon<br><a href=
=3D"mailto:mattdavignon@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mattdavignon@gmail.com=
</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.ribosomemusic.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.ribosomemus=
ic.com</a><br>Podcast! <a href=3D"http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com/" targe=
t=3D"_blank">http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com</a><br>Rigs! <a href=3D"http=
://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt" target=3D"_blank">http://www.youtube.=
com/user/ribosomematt</a><br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 11:59 PM, Clayto=
n Gary Lehmann <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hqr@cox.net">hqr@cox=
.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding=
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I would suggest doing a search of the LD archives, that&#39;s probably as g=
ood a<br>
place as any to get clues.<br>
We will all know more when this thing finally materializes . . .<br>
Gnarly<br>
________________________________________<br>
From: marcus kirby [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:marcusloops@gmail.com">marcusl=
oops@gmail.com</a>]<br>
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To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@=
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Subject: Info on LP2<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
When it becomes released, I&#39;m thinking about selling my two EDPs for ei=
ther<br>
three or four LP2s.<br>
<br>
Outside of the site, where can I find function / price information?<br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>

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This page http://www.loopers-delight.com/loop.html
has a Looper's search window--simply type in LP-2 and it will give you lots
of clues!


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Cool Tip! I always laboriously use the archives page which doesnt seem to
work anymore..

BTW, Typ your name into the searchbox and see how many hits on LD you get!!

I got *4,720
*
Four thousand seven hundred and twenty ONE (now)  bits on meandering waffle
from me... sorry about that!*

Mark





*
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Clayton Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net> wrote:

> This page http://www.loopers-delight.com/loop.html
> has a Looper's search window--simply type in LP-2 and it will give you lots
> of clues!
>
>
>


-- 
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Cool Tip! I always laboriously use the archives page which doesnt seem to w=
ork anymore..<br><br>BTW, Typ your name into the searchbox and see how many=
 hits on LD you get!!<br><br>I got <font size=3D"-1"><b>4,720<br></b><br>Fo=
ur thousand seven hundred and twenty ONE (now)=A0 bits on meandering waffle=
 from me... sorry about that!<b><br>

<br>Mark<br><br><br><br><br><br></b></font><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">O=
n Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Clayton Gary Lehmann <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:hqr@cox.net">hqr@cox.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
solid;padding-left:1ex;">

This page <a href=3D"http://www.loopers-delight.com/loop.html" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://www.loopers-delight.com/loop.html</a><br>
has a Looper&#39;s search window--simply type in LP-2 and it will give you =
lots<br>
of clues!<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><i style=3D"font-family=
:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(255, 255, 255);background-color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"=
><font style=3D"font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif" size=3D"4"><u>Mark Fra=
ncombe</u></font></i><br>

<font size=3D"1"><a style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" href=3D"http://www.markf=
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et=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, =
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twitter @markfrancombe</font><br>

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Hi all,

For the German speaking among you there is a very interesting interview with
Markus Reuter available for download:
http://iapetus-store.com/album/markus-reuter-interview-may-2011-for-degem-in-german
Among other things he talks about his approach to composition and live
looping and his "touch guitar".

All the best,
Johannes
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<div>Hi all,</div><div><br></div>For the German speaking among you there is=
 a very interesting interview with Markus Reuter available for download:<di=
v><a href=3D"http://iapetus-store.com/album/markus-reuter-interview-may-201=
1-for-degem-in-german">http://iapetus-store.com/album/markus-reuter-intervi=
ew-may-2011-for-degem-in-german</a></div>
<div>Among other things he talks about his approach to composition and live=
 looping and his &quot;touch guitar&quot;.</div><div><br></div><div>All the=
 best,</div><div>Johannes</div>-- <br><div><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.co=
m/nashorn" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/nashorn</a></div>
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Massivley differant applications for me=2C but I love them all=20

(I have HPD 10 / 15 and WDX)

the 10 is great as a responsive input controller...it also has the best "ki=
ts" in the traditional  Snare/Kick?opend and closed hats=2C toms crash/ typ=
e situation...it is the staple for sound on sound one man band looping for =
me as I can manually play in a great acoustic or electronic sounding beat.

the 15 on the hand is a deceptive beast... its more ethnic kit based and to=
 my ears the "kits" are thinner on the ground =2C but the actual range of s=
ounds to use as "fonts " and then modify in terms of pitch=2C filter=2C cut=
off etc.............its deeeep. Check out HPD and Smith on youtube...this g=
uy inspired me to spend about 2 years tweaking my kit. basically the 15 is =
a true instrumend of depth....and its midi is great too.

The Wave Drum...stads really to one side of both of these...this one IS an =
actual acoustic instrument in all but a jack plug...and can be played as su=
ch. it has the worst editing system i have ever tried to use... but on the =
other hand it can create some truly drum sounds....but i think it should be=
 bought very much iwith the same frame of mind as buying a single new snare=
 / cymbal etc for an acoustic kit...... basically it is 2 componants head a=
nd rim...thats it........everything else is very clever maths...so its less=
 of an all in "kit"....but that in itself is fine... but like i say=2C much=
 more like buying a set of tabla then a full western drumkit.



From: skeptikalist@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: OT: Wavedrum Vs Handsonic
Date: Fri=2C 23 Sep 2011 19:38:36 -0700


On Sep 23=2C 2011=2C at 1:30 PM=2C E Gross wrote:I am looking for input on =
the good points/bad points of the Korg Wavedrum versus the Handsonic
I have only used the Wavedrum.It has a drummerly responsive feel=2C works f=
ine with sticks. You can tune the head and assign different things to the r=
im.The standard sound samples are considered good=2C I don't have enough ex=
perience to compare to have an opinion.I did not do any programming=2C look=
s like you need patience but changes can be saved to user presets.My main c=
omplaints are that switching between presets is slow and some of the preset=
s=2C especially the synthy ones=2C are not that interesting at least to me =
-- there are no glitchy electronic kit presets for instance. No MIDI.
The main point about the Handsonic is the MIDI. I think this makes it more =
versatile but seems you would need software/laptop to take full advantage. =
So it functions as a controller but then latency issues would have to be co=
mpensated I suppose.
regards
BobC

http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j
http://www.youtube.com/user/tynego 		 	   		  =

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Massivley differant applications for me=2C but I love them all <br><br>(I h=
ave HPD 10 / 15 and WDX)<br><br>the 10 is great as a responsive input contr=
oller...it also has the best "kits" in the traditional&nbsp=3B Snare/Kick?o=
pend and closed hats=2C toms crash/ type situation...it is the staple for s=
ound on sound one man band looping for me as I can manually play in a great=
 acoustic or electronic sounding beat.<br><br>the 15 on the hand is a decep=
tive beast... its more ethnic kit based and to my ears the "kits" are thinn=
er on the ground =2C but the actual range of sounds to use as "fonts " and =
then modify in terms of pitch=2C filter=2C cutoff etc.............its deeee=
p. Check out HPD and Smith on youtube...this guy inspired me to spend about=
 2 years tweaking my kit. basically the 15 is a true instrumend of depth...=
.and its midi is great too.<br><br>The Wave Drum...stads really to one side=
 of both of these...this one IS an actual acoustic instrument in all but a =
jack plug...and can be played as such. it has the worst editing system i ha=
ve ever tried to use... but on the other hand it can create some truly drum=
 sounds....but i think it should be bought very much iwith the same frame o=
f mind as buying a single new snare / cymbal etc for an acoustic kit...... =
basically it is 2 componants head and rim...thats it........everything else=
 is very clever maths...so its less of an all in "kit"....but that in itsel=
f is fine... but like i say=2C much more like buying a set of tabla then a =
full western drumkit.<br><br><br><br><div><hr id=3D"stopSpelling">From: ske=
ptikalist@gmail.com<br>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>Subject: =
Re: OT: Wavedrum Vs Handsonic<br>Date: Fri=2C 23 Sep 2011 19:38:36 -0700<br=
><br><br><div><div>On Sep 23=2C 2011=2C at 1:30 PM=2C E Gross wrote:</div><=
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d points/bad points of the Korg Wavedrum versus the Handsonic</span></span>=
</blockquote></div><br><div>I have only used the Wavedrum.</div><div>It has=
 a drummerly responsive feel=2C works fine with sticks. You can tune the he=
ad and assign different things to the rim.</div><div>The standard sound sam=
ples are considered good=2C I don't have enough experience to compare to ha=
ve an opinion.</div><div>I did not do any programming=2C looks like you nee=
d patience but changes can be saved to user presets.</div><div>My main comp=
laints are that switching between presets is slow and some of the presets=
=2C especially the synthy ones=2C are not that interesting at least to me -=
- there are no glitchy electronic kit presets for instance. No MIDI.</div><=
div><br></div><div>The main point about the Handsonic is the MIDI.&nbsp=3B<=
/div><div>I think this makes it more versatile but seems you would need sof=
tware/laptop to take full advantage. So it functions as a controller but th=
en latency issues would have to be compensated I suppose.</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>regards</div><div><br></div><div>BobC</div><div><br></div><div><br>=
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If you're EVER wanted a classic Ensoniq sampler this is THE one to buy.

You can see pictures of the actual unit on my page at:
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The EPS16+ reads original EPS and *Mirage* Diskettes as well as offering
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This particular EPS16+ is 100% working with the original Ensoniq ME16
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Included:

- Fully working Vintage EPS16+ keyboard with velocity and polyphonic
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- Correct DD diskettes (not HD with tape on the side!) full of classic
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- ME16 Official Ensonig Max MEmory expansion with SCSI

- Ultra Rare and $$$ Ensoniq FLASH RAM installed.

- Latest OS loaded on Flash RAM and on backup Diskette.

The benefit of the EPS16+ over the ASR10, etc is it's slightly different
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ALL the classic Ensoniq sample disks and sounds directly (including the
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This unit also comes with a collection of DD diskettes including drum kit=
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I am asking $350 due to the extras on this machine which are worth close
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Pickup in Phila Pa (will be happy to discount a bit for that!) or pay
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Fascinating video clip of
Diego Stocco recording and using looping
in a Dry Cleaning shop.

http://boingboing.net/2011/09/22/musician-plays-a-dry-cleaning-shop-as-instrument.html

It becomes pretty obvious half way through that
he didn't do this in real time,   but
he certainly could have done so
(with an LP-1 and an Electric Repeater)
or perhaps   Mobius and Ableton's live.

He's definitely pitch shifting sounds for his
'melodies' and they are being stretched appropriately
in a way that only the Repeater and Live can do
(to my knowledge at least).

Still,  quite cool and fascinating.

Parenthetically,  I was talking with the producers from the
Martha Stewart show about going in to a K-Mart
and looping only her brand of toiletry items with cameras
rolling (one of her brass wastebaskets is still one of the
most sophisticated  found percussion instruments I've ever
discovered) right when she got busted and went to jail.
It never happened but I had already built a battery powered
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Martha Stewart! Now that would have been cool!

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
> Fascinating video clip of
> Diego Stocco recording and using looping
> in a Dry Cleaning shop.
>
> http://boingboing.net/2011/09/22/musician-plays-a-dry-cleaning-shop-as-in=
strument.html
>
> It becomes pretty obvious half way through that
> he didn't do this in real time, =A0 but
> he certainly could have done so
> (with an LP-1 and an Electric Repeater)
> or perhaps =A0 Mobius and Ableton's live.
>
> He's definitely pitch shifting sounds for his
> 'melodies' and they are being stretched appropriately
> in a way that only the Repeater and Live can do
> (to my knowledge at least).
>
> Still, =A0quite cool and fascinating.
>
> Parenthetically, =A0I was talking with the producers from the
> Martha Stewart show about going in to a K-Mart
> and looping only her brand of toiletry items with cameras
> rolling (one of her brass wastebaskets is still one of the
> most sophisticated =A0found percussion instruments I've ever
> discovered) right when she got busted and went to jail.
> It never happened but I had already built a battery powered
> live looping rig to accomplish it.
>
> Rick Walker
>
>
>



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Hi,

Since I recently posted that I think "effects are great in the GR-55"
I now need to refurbish that statement a bit. It actually is too good
to be true that this years Roland guitar synth offers twice as much as
last year's and to half the price ;-)

The sad truth is that the delay is buzzing if the exp pedal is used to
simultaneously control Delay Feedback,  Delay Volume and Tone Volume
(like a swell pedal pre delay). You won't notice it if playing with a
distorted sound, but using the GR-55 for delay looping with a clean
sound is not possible. For today's recordings I have to turn off the
delay in the GR-55 and use it only as a volume pedal and the add the
looping delay in Logic as a lame post performance edit. This sucks,
cuz the point in having external effect devices in a studio is being
able to record quickly; dial in a sound, hit record and play.

Oh, and I went through all amp sims yesterday, looking for a funky wha
guitar sound that keeps the dynamics of your playing for the
recording...  Found only one (!) amp sim that sounds ok for this, the
"Jazz Combo". Wonder why Roland calls it so because to me it sounds
more like The Meters than like George Benson. But it sounds great and
it really is a time saver to have a good wha sound instantly available
for plugging in. So my bottom line is more about praising than whining
:-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub

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Hey,

I've been making some changes to my iOS looper Loopy, to try to make =
loop transitions smoother, and I'm hoping to get some advice on =
crossfading loops.

Before, Loopy would record for the exact duration requested (the "clock" =
length), and then microfade to silence at either side of the boundary, =
over something like 128 frames.  It avoids any click at the boundary, =
but doesn't sound particularly smooth - in fact, it introduces a hole at =
the boundary.

So, now, my current strategy is to record for a fraction longer, both =
before and after the actual recording starts and ends, so that there's =
some extra audio (2048 frames, or 0.046s) at the start and end to =
overlap and crossfade (using an equal power x-fade).  So, prior to the =
crossfade, we have 2048 lead-in frames, then the loop recording, then =
2048 lead-out frames.  Then I overlap those frames, like this: =
http://atastypixel.com/duyoq (diagram)

This sounds great, and super smooth, but a user was commenting that he =
can clearly hear the following downbeat after the recording of a loop.

It seems to me like this might be a necessary evil - we have to have =
extra audio to overlap, otherwise there's no other choice than to either =
have no crossfade, or to fade to silence, both of which are undesirable.

So, I was wondering - is there an alternative solution, to getting nice =
smooth crossfades at a loop boundary, without recording outside the =
loop?  What do hardware loopers do here?

Thanks heaps =3D)
Michael=

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">Hey,<div><br></div><div>I've been making some changes to my iOS looper =
Loopy, to try to make loop transitions smoother, and I'm hoping to get =
some advice on crossfading loops.</div><div><br></div><div>Before, Loopy =
would record for the exact duration requested (the "clock" length), and =
then microfade to silence at either side of the boundary, over something =
like 128 frames. &nbsp;It avoids any click at the boundary, but doesn't =
sound particularly smooth - in fact, it introduces a hole at the =
boundary.</div><div><br></div><div>So, now, my current strategy is to =
record for a fraction longer, both before and after the actual recording =
starts and ends, so that there's some extra audio (2048 frames, or =
0.046s) at the start and end to overlap and crossfade (using an equal =
power x-fade). &nbsp;So, prior to the crossfade, we have 2048 lead-in =
frames, then the loop recording, then 2048 lead-out frames. &nbsp;Then I =
overlap those frames, like this:&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"http://atastypixel.com/duyoq">http://atastypixel.com/duyoq</a>&nbs=
p;(diagram)</div><div><br></div><div>This sounds great, and super =
smooth, but a user was commenting that he can clearly hear the following =
downbeat after the recording of a loop.</div><div><br></div><div>It =
seems to me like this might be a necessary evil - we have to have extra =
audio to overlap, otherwise there's no other choice than to either have =
no crossfade, or to fade to silence, both of which are =
undesirable.</div><div><br></div><div>So, I was wondering - is there an =
alternative solution, to getting nice smooth crossfades at a loop =
boundary, without recording outside the loop? &nbsp;What do hardware =
loopers do here?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks heaps =
=3D)</div><div>Michael</div></body></html>=

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Subject: Demo of Loopy HD (out next week)
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A little shameless self-promotion, I know, but it may be of interest - =
here's a demo I just put together of Loopy HD, the iPad (and universal) =
version of the live-looper iPhone app Loopy (loopyapp.com).

http://youtu.be/0iMFZXvCsZQ

The iPad version's got more tracks than the iPhone version - up to 12; a =
new control interface, and a new colour scheme.  It's coming out on =
October 6, and will be half-price for a few days, $3.99, so that Loopy =
users can upgrade without having to pay full price.

Would love to hear what you think!

Cheers =3D)
Michael=

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Michael Peters
pointed out that I posted an incorrect
PayPal address  in my call for Donations
for this year's Y2KX+1 LIVE LOOPING FESTIVAL

I must have been tired when I posted it.

The address   rickwalker@cruzio.com    does NOT exist.


The correct PayPal
account to use for donations for the festival is:

looppool@cruzio.com


I have already discovered two people who donated incorrectly because
of my mistake.  Please forgive me.

Those donated funds will be listed as 'unclaimed'.

If anyone made a donation to the wrong email address,
would you please contact me offlist at

looppool@cruzio.com   so I can straighten the mistake out.


Please forgive me...........this is the really intense final weeks of 
preparation for the festival and I haven't been getting much sleep.

yours,   sheepishly,    Rick Walker

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Whenever I need to "butt" two waveforms together in Sonar, I make sure =
that I hook them together at a zero crossing point, meaning a place =
where both waveforms cross the zero axis. That way I get perfectly =
silent merges. Is that a possibility for your app?

Brian
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Michael Tyson=20
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  Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 8:23 AM
  Subject: Looper crossfade advice


  Hey,


  I've been making some changes to my iOS looper Loopy, to try to make =
loop transitions smoother, and I'm hoping to get some advice on =
crossfading loops.


  Before, Loopy would record for the exact duration requested (the =
"clock" length), and then microfade to silence at either side of the =
boundary, over something like 128 frames.  It avoids any click at the =
boundary, but doesn't sound particularly smooth - in fact, it introduces =
a hole at the boundary.


  So, now, my current strategy is to record for a fraction longer, both =
before and after the actual recording starts and ends, so that there's =
some extra audio (2048 frames, or 0.046s) at the start and end to =
overlap and crossfade (using an equal power x-fade).  So, prior to the =
crossfade, we have 2048 lead-in frames, then the loop recording, then =
2048 lead-out frames.  Then I overlap those frames, like this: =
http://atastypixel.com/duyoq (diagram)


  This sounds great, and super smooth, but a user was commenting that he =
can clearly hear the following downbeat after the recording of a loop.


  It seems to me like this might be a necessary evil - we have to have =
extra audio to overlap, otherwise there's no other choice than to either =
have no crossfade, or to fade to silence, both of which are undesirable.


  So, I was wondering - is there an alternative solution, to getting =
nice smooth crossfades at a loop boundary, without recording outside the =
loop?  What do hardware loopers do here?


  Thanks heaps =3D)
  Michael
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Hi Per,
    I setup an open G Minor acoustic with some delay and noticed the same
buzz.  I tried tweaking the amp sim volume to compensate which did help but
I have not yet tried simultaneously controling Delay Feedback, Delay Volume
& Delay Tone Volume with one pedal.  I do like this pedal more than the last
few so please continue to post your efforts, it is much appreciated.

Weg.

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Since I recently posted that I think "effects are great in the GR-55"
> I now need to refurbish that statement a bit. It actually is too good
> to be true that this years Roland guitar synth offers twice as much as
> last year's and to half the price ;-)
>
> The sad truth is that the delay is buzzing if the exp pedal is used to
> simultaneously control Delay Feedback,  Delay Volume and Tone Volume
> (like a swell pedal pre delay). You won't notice it if playing with a
> distorted sound, but using the GR-55 for delay looping with a clean
> sound is not possible. For today's recordings I have to turn off the
> delay in the GR-55 and use it only as a volume pedal and the add the
> looping delay in Logic as a lame post performance edit. This sucks,
> cuz the point in having external effect devices in a studio is being
> able to record quickly; dial in a sound, hit record and play.
>
> Oh, and I went through all amp sims yesterday, looking for a funky wha
> guitar sound that keeps the dynamics of your playing for the
> recording...  Found only one (!) amp sim that sounds ok for this, the
> "Jazz Combo". Wonder why Roland calls it so because to me it sounds
> more like The Meters than like George Benson. But it sounds great and
> it really is a time saver to have a good wha sound instantly available
> for plugging in. So my bottom line is more about praising than whining
> :-)
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> www.looproom.com internet music hub
>
>


-- 
Greg Wegmann

TheWeg@Frontier.com
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<div>Hi Per,</div>
<div>=A0=A0=A0 I setup an open G Minor acoustic with some delay and noticed=
 the same buzz.=A0 I tried tweaking the amp sim volume to compensate which =
did help but I have not yet tried simultaneously controling Delay Feedback,=
 Delay Volume &amp; Delay Tone Volume with one pedal.=A0 I do like this ped=
al more than the last few so please continue to post your efforts, it is mu=
ch appreciated.</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>Weg.<br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Per Boysen <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboysen@gmail.co=
m</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Hi,<br><br>Since I recently post=
ed that I think &quot;effects are great in the GR-55&quot;<br>I now need to=
 refurbish that statement a bit. It actually is too good<br>
to be true that this years Roland guitar synth offers twice as much as<br>l=
ast year&#39;s and to half the price ;-)<br><br>The sad truth is that the d=
elay is buzzing if the exp pedal is used to<br>simultaneously control Delay=
 Feedback, =A0Delay Volume and Tone Volume<br>
(like a swell pedal pre delay). You won&#39;t notice it if playing with a<b=
r>distorted sound, but using the GR-55 for delay looping with a clean<br>so=
und is not possible. For today&#39;s recordings I have to turn off the<br>
delay in the GR-55 and use it only as a volume pedal and the add the<br>loo=
ping delay in Logic as a lame post performance edit. This sucks,<br>cuz the=
 point in having external effect devices in a studio is being<br>able to re=
cord quickly; dial in a sound, hit record and play.<br>
<br>Oh, and I went through all amp sims yesterday, looking for a funky wha<=
br>guitar sound that keeps the dynamics of your playing for the<br>recordin=
g... =A0Found only one (!) amp sim that sounds ok for this, the<br>&quot;Ja=
zz Combo&quot;. Wonder why Roland calls it so because to me it sounds<br>
more like The Meters than like George Benson. But it sounds great and<br>it=
 really is a time saver to have a good wha sound instantly available<br>for=
 plugging in. So my bottom line is more about praising than whining<br>
:-)<br>
<div>
<div></div>
<div class=3D"h5"><br>Greetings from Sweden<br><br>Per Boysen<br><a href=3D=
"http://www.boysen.se/" target=3D"_blank">www.boysen.se</a><br><a href=3D"h=
ttp://www.perboysen.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.perboysen.com</a><br><a hre=
f=3D"http://www.looproom.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.looproom.com</a> inter=
net music hub<br>
<br></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>
<div>Greg Wegmann<br><br><a href=3D"mailto:TheWeg@Frontier.com" target=3D"_=
blank">TheWeg@Frontier.com</a></div>
<div>TheWeg@GMail.com<br></div><br>

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Mark,
Sorry it took a while to write back on this, but that last message
somehow skipped my notice the first time around.
I'll preface all this by saying I have no feathers and, thus, remain
unruffled. =A0I'm not trying to convince you of anything and I respect
your point of view. =A0In fact, I could let all of this slide without
much bother, but that doesn't make for very interesting conversations,
so I'll tackle a few points you brought up, only for the sake of
entertainment.
1) processing is shitIt may well be. =A0I don't know enough. =A0It seems
to me to be wide open and should allow many possibilities... =A0I don't
think there's anything intrinsically wrong with the tool. =A0It's
essentially Java, isn't it? =A0 =A0Some cool shit I've seen done with
processing made use of the RiTa toolkit (which is a java toolkit, so
you don't really need processing at all). =A0Of course, I'm generally
predisposed to enjoy language-based art and RiTa is all about
language-based art. =A0Some student projects:
http://www.rednoise.org/rita/rita_gallery.htm
2) programmers aren't artistI think that's insulting to both
programmers and artists. =A0Why should programmers and artists fit these
little molds? =A0Because it works well in the industry? =A0That may be of
great advantage to industry, but there is little gain to either
programmers or artists. Programmers are not coding better programs
because of this split and artist are not creating better art either.
If Leonardo da Vinci were alive today, he'd be coding away. =A0That's my
model of an artist and not some romantic notion of the inspired
individual working from emotion and fighting the good fight against
reason and the man. =A0Your depiction of the programmer who delves into
art only to produce some boastfull 'look what I can do' demo is a
strawman. For every such coder, how many bleeding-art teenagers are
strumming guitars and writing bad poetry in a vain and misguided
effort to express some platitudes about their inner experience?
And this leads us to our next point...
3) art has heartSome art has heart. =A0Some art has too much heart.
Some very good art has no heart at all.
I don't believe it matters. =A0I don't think we should aim to express
ourselves through our music, not only because it usually bores me, but
mostly because I don't believe it's the most effective way of
expressing ourselves. =A0Words tend to work best, but even they have
their limits.
As a philosopher by training, and someone particularly interested in
language, it is not without bias that I say that some of the twentieth
century's most interesting advancements in the sphere of ideas are how
we've dealt with the problem of ascribing meaning to linguistic
behaviour. =A0Ignoring all the details and pretending there is consensus
in the field (ha!), the gist of it can be summed up in two points:
1) The words that are coming out of my mouth (or keyboard) have
meaning only if they're interpreted by someone (and there's an
external world we can both refer to). =A02) The facts about my
linguistic behaviour, do not determine a unique correct
interpretation. There can be many and there's no way (in principle) to
determine which is the correct interpretation (although some are
better than others).
I don't intend to demonstrate these points. =A0If anyone is interested,
I'll refer you to the appropriate literature. =A0My point is that these
ideas are out there.
This sort of thing was picked up by scholars working with literature.
After all, if normal linguistic behaviour does not have a single
correct interpretation, a novel could have several as well. =A0Today,
literary criticism is rarely interested in the author's intentions...
they're concerned with finding interpretations that fit all aspects of
the work. =A0Doesn't matter what the author was thinking about or what
he was trying to express. =A0 It's a very creative academic pursuit.
A similar development occurred in music with composers like John Cage
who tried to remove themselves from the composition. =A0I see this as
their way of fighting the notion that composers expressed something
through music. =A0Cage did this through chance operations and
ultimately, in 4'33", by creating a piece composed entirely of sounds
unspecified by the composer. =A0Any discussion of Cage's music is not
concerned about his feelings or with trying to fathom what he was
expressing, but rather with compositional techniques and meta-matters.
=A0For instance 4'33" demonstrates that a piece of music can be composed
of absolutely any sounds, even those the composer does not explicitly
specify. =A0Absolutely no heart. =A0It's not a terribly exciting piece in
performance, but conceptually, it is a monster.
Based on all this, I'm not particularly interested in what someone is
trying to express in their music. =A0Nor do I think only music that
expresses something (i.e. has heart) is worthwhile. =A0These days, a lot
of the music that fascinates me involve algorithmic compositional
processes. =A0This is what I like and it's a matter of personal
preference. =A0You may not dig it, but there is no doubt that it's music
regardless.
4) visual programming vs scriptingThere's a difference? =A0I've played
with both and I don't see a whole lot. =A0The syntax is easier when
dealing with boxes and wires, but syntax is never the main challenge
in coding. =A0If you prefer to draw a bunch of wires between three or
four boxes on your screen instead of typing
(define mix =A0(+ in1 in2))
that's up to you. =A0But don't fool yourself, this is not a more artful
way of coding. =A0In some ways it's very inelegant and can make basic
staples of computation (e.g. recursion) difficult to implement. =A0The
learning curve is advantageous and so is the rapidity at which you can
create a working prototype. =A0In fact, the folks at Plogue use Bidule
to prototype their projects before coding somewhere else. =A0I've used
Bidule a lot, because you can drop AU effects right into your code.
That's nice. =A0Turns out you can also do that with impromptu. The bonus
in impromptu is that you don't have to deal with a bunch of wires and
you can just code away (actually you can use wires if you want) .
Seriously, I hate it when I have to cable a bunch of boxes together
just to make a simple equation... =A0Had I found this free software
earlier on, I don't think I would've bought Bidule.
However, coding visually or not is a matter of personal preference...
 have you come around, within one message, from shitting on
programming to embracing it? =A0I guess I didn't need to reply after all
=A0;)
Sylvain

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 3:00 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wr=
ote:
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Sylvain Poitras
> <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Actually, processing is all about artsy visual, animation, interactive
>> stuff. =A0The sonifying processing project brings music into processing
>> so you can mess with sound.
>
>
> I have delved a for a few moments now...
>
> http://computermusicblog.com/blog/sonifyingprocessing/
>
> and I must say that Im not terribly interested. Processing is primarily a
> programmers tool. Of course more and more programming is required in many
> forms of art, as the computer has become such a vital tool. I have tried =
and
> tried to program, and have struggled with Java and Action script, have cu=
t n
> pasted in C in all its forms for game programming, Ive scripted Mobius...
> and so it will be, and more so, I have no doubt... in the future... but I=
ve
> never become able to truly produce my dreams...
>
> Every so often Ive come back to Processing thru one arty video forum or
> another, and... I must say...
>
> I have yet to see anything interesting done in Processing!
>
> (Ducks behind fire hydrant, spanner in hand).
> Flash! yes, Game Engines... Oh my god YES! Even html yes yes yes..
> Processing seems to get people making... well.. tiny little visual
> experiments... kind of nice.. but nothing really with any real conceptual
> meat!
> Its like in my company, the programmers sit in one room with PC's and the
> designers sit in another with macs... and we all meet once in a while to
> discuss what we need from each other...and you know, I think thats the ri=
ght
> approach..
> When programmers try to produce art, its never Art, its always like a dem=
o
> or a small "look what I can do" boast... (now I can feel Im really duckin=
g
> molotov cocktails)...
> To me, Art has heart.
> In a way it why the beginning of my seach for a visual music tool, was th=
e
> VJ world.. because this world is NOT ROCKET SCIENCE... they want an insta=
nt
> hit, instant satisfaction and immediate feedback, thats not art either, b=
ut
> certainly the immediacy of the VJ approach is more in tune with my musica=
l
> world of improvisation, act and react.
>
> Having taken that route I have over shot the simplicity of these programs
> and find that I do need something more complex and in depth, because Im n=
ot
> interested in doing the same as many before me...and have found myself at=
 a
> place where I do need to learn some programming, but using a visual
> programming approach, rather than scripting.
>
> hope I havent ruffled any feathers, and if people can point me in the
> direction of some truly outstanding Processing stuff, then I cant wait to=
 be
> amazed!
>
> m
>
> --
> Mark Francombe
> www.markfrancombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no
> twitter @markfrancombe
>

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Jesus, fantastic post Sylvain!

i am typing from iPhone on a shoot right now, so can't respond with
the response it deserves, but Im indebted to your post, and you are
completely correct In everything you say, i was talking simply as a
NON coder, but someone who has tried many many many times. i fail due
to syntax everytime, however gimme code for what i need, and i can
change it for My use.
this has led me to many frustrating dead ends and time wasted when i
could have been creating. My opinion would differ if i had succeeded
of course.

i will never say that the artist programmer does not exist, just that
In My experience, i find that the best results are with great
partnerships between both.

i stand by My statement that i havent seen anything artistic done with
Processing, i will watch your link when i Get to a computer, and crave
more examples...


mark



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On 28 Sep 2011, at 18:00, Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:

> Mark,
> Sorry it took a while to write back on this, but that last message
> somehow skipped my notice the first time around.
> I'll preface all this by saying I have no feathers and, thus, remain
> unruffled.




>> Mark Francombe
>> www.markfrancombe.com
>> www.ordoabkhao.com
>> http://vimeo.com/user825094
>> http://www.looop.no
>> twitter @markfrancombe
>>
>

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Yes I like the GR-55 a lot too. Here's what I just recorded with it today:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4963264/pressure_of_beauty.mp3

You can hear the bad buzz noise in the very first feedback notes. That
sucks, but I kept it anyway since that's not a major part of the piece
- and after all, back when we recorded on analog every damn cable
fizzled like this! ;-))

Everything in this recording goes through the GR-55. The two e-bow
guitars (Epiphone Les Paul) do; one with just the GR-55 limiter and
the other one with whawha-pedal and the "Jazz Combo" amp sim of the
GR-55 (the only amp sim I found useful). The sitar guitar is played
with the Stick - that has the GK-3 mounted - and uses no direct sound,
just the Cosm modeled "Coral Sitar Guitar". I layered two synth string
tones behind the sitar tone for sweatening. The bass was played on the
Stick Guitar's bass fretboard using the same "Jazz Combo" amp sim in
the GR-55.

Per



On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Thomas Wegmann <theweg@gmail.com> wrote:
> I setup an open G Minor acoustic with some delay and noticed the same buz=
z.
> I tried tweaking the amp sim volume to compensate which did help but I ha=
ve
> not yet tried simultaneously controling Delay Feedback, Delay Volume & De=
lay
> Tone Volume with one pedal.=C2=A0 I do like this pedal more than the last=
 few so
> please continue to post your efforts, it is much appreciated.

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> So, I was wondering - is there an alternative solution, to getting
> nice smooth crossfades at a loop boundary, without recording outside
> the loop?  What do hardware loopers do here?

I think the most common approach to this in current loopers is to give
the performer an option to transition seamlessly from Record mode to
Overdub mode when the recording ends.  There is then no fade-to-zero at
the end of the loop, the current sound carries over seamlessly to the
start of the loop.  The performer then has control over when they
stop the overdub.

This does require an extra user action to end the overdub.  But it
gives them control over how long the recording "tail" is.  For
example a very short tail may be all you need to avoid a fade bump in
a drone or pad sound, but if you had a cymbal crash toward the end of
the loop you would want that to fully decay so the tail must be longer.

Automating the end of the overdub would be cool, but I'd recommend
having a parameter that the user can set to control the tail length so they
can adjust it depending on what they're playing.

> but a user was commenting that he can clearly hear the
> following downbeat after the recording of a loop

I'm not sure what you mean here, but if the performer is playing
something percussive and the end of the loop is followed immediately
by a sound with a sharp attack that you don't want to include in the
recorded loop...yes, that's the tradeoff of seamless overdub.  In
these cases though, the fade-to-zero is often less noticeable because
the sharp downbeat takes the listener's attention away from the fade.
This is why it is best if the record tail is user controllable,
sometimes you want it and sometimes you don't

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es at a loop boundary, without recording outside<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&gt; the loop?&nbsp; What=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I think the most common a=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">the performer an option t=
o transition seamlessly from Record mode to<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Overdub mode when the rec=
ording ends.&nbsp; There is then no fade-to-zero at<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">the end of the loop, the =
current sound carries over seamlessly to the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">start of the loop.&nbsp; =
The performer then has control over when they<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">stop the overdub.<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">This does require an extr=
a user action to end the overdub.&nbsp; But it<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">gives them control over h=
ow long the recording &quot;tail&quot; is.&nbsp; For<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">example a very short tail=
 may be all you need to avoid a fade bump in<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">a drone or pad sound, but=
 if you had a cymbal crash toward the end of<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">the loop you would want t=
hat to fully decay so the tail must be longer.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Automating the end of the=
 overdub would be cool, but I'd recommend<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">having a parameter that t=
he user can set to control the tail length so they<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
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n what they're playing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&gt; following downbeat a=
fter the recording of a loop<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I'm not sure what you mea=
n here, but if the performer is playing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">recorded loop...yes, that=
's the tradeoff of seamless overdub.&nbsp; In<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">these cases though, the f=
ade-to-zero is often less noticeable because<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">the sharp downbeat takes =
the listener's attention away from the fade.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">This is why it is best if=
 the record tail is user controllable,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
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 sometimes you don't<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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There was something that bothered me about these clips, including "musician
plays a tree" (also featuring Diego) and "music for one apartment and six
drummers". I gradually figured out that it's not the musicians themselves. I
see Diego as taking the torch from  Matmos and running with it. He is doing
a lot of creative stuff.

The thing that bugs me is the video treatment and promotion. He's not really
playing a dry cleaning shop as an instrument - he's making lots of tiny
recordings, then arranging them on the computer to make music. The video
treatment suggests that he's playing all the "instruments" from start to
finish live.

The "music for one apartment and six drummers" video (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVPVbc8LgP4) specifically lies to you - it
doesn't even show the computer! Somehow, the drummers are able to amplify
the sounds of perfume bottles, etc without microphones. Also, the sounds of
books being dropped on the floor sound like handclaps, and sound exactly the
same each time.

So yeah, it puts the sensationalism above the music, and that bugs me.

-- 
Matt Davignon
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On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

> Fascinating video clip of
> Diego Stocco recording and using looping
> in a Dry Cleaning shop.
>
> http://boingboing.net/2011/09/**22/musician-plays-a-dry-**
> cleaning-shop-as-instrument.**html<http://boingboing.net/2011/09/22/musician-plays-a-dry-cleaning-shop-as-instrument.html>
>
> It becomes pretty obvious half way through that
> he didn't do this in real time,   but
> he certainly could have done so
> (with an LP-1 and an Electric Repeater)
> or perhaps   Mobius and Ableton's live.
>
> He's definitely pitch shifting sounds for his
> 'melodies' and they are being stretched appropriately
> in a way that only the Repeater and Live can do
> (to my knowledge at least).
>
> Still,  quite cool and fascinating.
>
> Parenthetically,  I was talking with the producers from the
> Martha Stewart show about going in to a K-Mart
> and looping only her brand of toiletry items with cameras
> rolling (one of her brass wastebaskets is still one of the
> most sophisticated  found percussion instruments I've ever
> discovered) right when she got busted and went to jail.
> It never happened but I had already built a battery powered
> live looping rig to accomplish it.
>
> Rick Walker
>
>
>

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There was something that bothered me about these clips, including &quot;mus=
ician plays a tree&quot; (also featuring Diego) and &quot;music for one apa=
rtment and six drummers&quot;. I gradually figured out that it&#39;s not th=
e musicians themselves. I see Diego as taking the torch from=A0 Matmos and =
running with it. He is doing a lot of creative stuff. <br>
<br>The thing that bugs me is the video treatment and promotion. He&#39;s n=
ot really playing a dry cleaning shop as an instrument - he&#39;s making lo=
ts of tiny recordings, then arranging them on the computer to make music. T=
he video treatment suggests that he&#39;s playing all the &quot;instruments=
&quot; from start to finish live. <br>
<br>The &quot;music for one apartment and six drummers&quot; video (<cite c=
lass=3D"kvm"><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DsVPVbc8LgP4">http:=
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DsVPVbc8LgP4</a>) </cite>specifically lies to yo=
u - it doesn&#39;t even show the computer! Somehow, the drummers are able t=
o amplify the sounds of perfume bottles, etc without microphones. Also, the=
 sounds of books being dropped on the floor sound like handclaps, and sound=
 exactly the same each time.<br>
<br>So yeah, it puts the sensationalism above the music, and that bugs me. =
<br><br>-- <br>Matt Davignon<br><a href=3D"mailto:mattdavignon@gmail.com" t=
arget=3D"_blank">mattdavignon@gmail.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.riboso=
memusic.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.ribosomemusic.com</a><br>
Podcast! <a href=3D"http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com/" target=3D"_blank">h=
ttp://ribosomematt.podomatic.com</a><br>Rigs! <a href=3D"http://www.youtube=
.com/user/ribosomematt" target=3D"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/user/ribos=
omematt</a><br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Rick Wa=
lker <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:looppool@cruzio.com">looppool@=
cruzio.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); p=
adding-left: 1ex;">
Fascinating video clip of<br>
Diego Stocco recording and using looping<br>
in a Dry Cleaning shop.<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://boingboing.net/2011/09/22/musician-plays-a-dry-cleaning-s=
hop-as-instrument.html" target=3D"_blank">http://boingboing.net/2011/09/<u>=
</u>22/musician-plays-a-dry-<u></u>cleaning-shop-as-instrument.<u></u>html<=
/a><br>

<br>
It becomes pretty obvious half way through that<br>
he didn&#39;t do this in real time, =A0 but<br>
he certainly could have done so<br>
(with an LP-1 and an Electric Repeater)<br>
or perhaps =A0 Mobius and Ableton&#39;s live.<br>
<br>
He&#39;s definitely pitch shifting sounds for his<br>
&#39;melodies&#39; and they are being stretched appropriately<br>
in a way that only the Repeater and Live can do<br>
(to my knowledge at least).<br>
<br>
Still, =A0quite cool and fascinating.<br>
<br>
Parenthetically, =A0I was talking with the producers from the<br>
Martha Stewart show about going in to a K-Mart<br>
and looping only her brand of toiletry items with cameras<br>
rolling (one of her brass wastebaskets is still one of the<br>
most sophisticated =A0found percussion instruments I&#39;ve ever<br>
discovered) right when she got busted and went to jail.<br>
It never happened but I had already built a battery powered<br>
live looping rig to accomplish it.<br><font color=3D"#888888">
<br>
Rick Walker<br>
<br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br><br>

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Hi Micheal,
Would Loopy HD work with those bluetooth page turning pedals for the
ipad so it could operate hands free?

for instance:  http://airturn.com/bt-105/

Sylvain



On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:27 AM, Michael Tyson <michael@atastypixel.com> wr=
ote:
> A little shameless self-promotion, I know, but it may be of interest - he=
re's a demo I just put together of Loopy HD, the iPad (and universal) versi=
on of the live-looper iPhone app Loopy (loopyapp.com).
>
> http://youtu.be/0iMFZXvCsZQ
>
> The iPad version's got more tracks than the iPhone version - up to 12; a =
new control interface, and a new colour scheme. =A0It's coming out on Octob=
er 6, and will be half-price for a few days, $3.99, so that Loopy users can=
 upgrade without having to pay full price.
>
> Would love to hear what you think!
>
> Cheers =3D)
> Michael
>

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Beautiful visual loop showing visual pattern consonance and dissonance


TinyURL.com/pendulumLOOP


What it shows: Fifteen uncoupled simple pendulums of monotonically 
increasing lengths dance together to produce visual traveling waves, 
standing waves, beating, and random motion. One might call this kinetic 
art and the choreography of the dance of the pendulums is stunning! 
Aliasing and quantum revival can also be shown.

How it works: The period of one complete cycle of the dance is 60 
seconds. The length of the longest pendulum has been adjusted so that it 
executes 51 oscillations in this 60 second period. The length of each 
successive shorter pendulum is carefully adjusted so that it executes 
one additional oscillation in this period. Thus, the 15th pendulum 
(shortest) undergoes 65 oscillations. When all 15 pendulums are started 
together, they quickly fall out of synctheir relative phases 
continuously change because of their different periods of oscillation. 
However, after 60 seconds they will all have executed an integral number 
of oscillations and be back in sync again at that instant, ready to 
repeat the dance.

Setting it up: The pendulum waves are best viewed from above or down the 
length of the apparatus. Video projection is a must for a large lecture 
hall audience. You can play the video below to see the apparatus in 
action. One instance of interest to note is at 30 seconds (halfway 
through the cycle), when half of the pendulums are at one amplitude 
maximum and the other half are at the opposite amplitude maximum.

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do you have a functional link?

Thanks,

Kevin

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
> Beautiful visual loop showing visual pattern consonance and dissonance
>
>
> TinyURL.com/pendulumLOOP
>
>
> What it shows: Fifteen uncoupled simple pendulums of monotonically
> increasing lengths dance together to produce visual traveling waves,
> standing waves, beating, and random motion. One might call this kinetic a=
rt
> and the choreography of the dance of the pendulums is stunning! Aliasing =
and
> quantum revival can also be shown.
>
> How it works: The period of one complete cycle of the dance is 60 seconds=
.
> The length of the longest pendulum has been adjusted so that it executes =
51
> oscillations in this 60 second period. The length of each successive shor=
ter
> pendulum is carefully adjusted so that it executes one additional
> oscillation in this period. Thus, the 15th pendulum (shortest) undergoes =
65
> oscillations. When all 15 pendulums are started together, they quickly fa=
ll
> out of sync=97their relative phases continuously change because of their
> different periods of oscillation. However, after 60 seconds they will all
> have executed an integral number of oscillations and be back in sync agai=
n
> at that instant, ready to repeat the dance.
>
> Setting it up: The pendulum waves are best viewed from above or down the
> length of the apparatus. Video projection is a must for a large lecture h=
all
> audience. You can play the video below to see the apparatus in action. On=
e
> instance of interest to note is at 30 seconds (halfway through the cycle)=
,
> when half of the pendulums are at one amplitude maximum and the other hal=
f
> are at the opposite amplitude maximum.
>
>



--=20
Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org
Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DyVkdfJ9PkRQ

Quoting Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com>:

> do you have a functional link?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin
>
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
>> Beautiful visual loop showing visual pattern consonance and dissonance
>>
>>
>> TinyURL.com/pendulumLOOP
>>
>>
>> What it shows: Fifteen uncoupled simple pendulums of monotonically
>> increasing lengths dance together to produce visual traveling waves,
>> standing waves, beating, and random motion. One might call this kinetic a=
rt
>> and the choreography of the dance of the pendulums is stunning! Aliasing =
and
>> quantum revival can also be shown.
>>
>> How it works: The period of one complete cycle of the dance is 60 seconds=
.
>> The length of the longest pendulum has been adjusted so that it executes =
51
>> oscillations in this 60 second period. The length of each successive shor=
ter
>> pendulum is carefully adjusted so that it executes one additional
>> oscillation in this period. Thus, the 15th pendulum (shortest) undergoes =
65
>> oscillations. When all 15 pendulums are started together, they quickly fa=
ll
>> out of sync=E2=80=94their relative phases continuously change because of =
their
>> different periods of oscillation. However, after 60 seconds they will all
>> have executed an integral number of oscillations and be back in sync agai=
n
>> at that instant, ready to repeat the dance.
>>
>> Setting it up: The pendulum waves are best viewed from above or down the
>> length of the apparatus. Video projection is a must for a large lecture h=
all
>> audience. You can play the video below to see the apparatus in action. On=
e
>> instance of interest to note is at 30 seconds (halfway through the cycle)=
,
>> when half of the pendulums are at one amplitude maximum and the other hal=
f
>> are at the opposite amplitude maximum.
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.
>
> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>
> Sound and Vision:=C2=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org
> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos
>
>


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BUMMMER! GR-55 can not merge MIDI! MIDI coming in over the MIDI In
port is not merged into what is sent out through the USB MIDI Out
port. Oh well, guess I have to buy a USB adapter then.

But the GR-55 follows tempo well by the USB MIDI In port. I used it
slave synced today when recording audio through the GR-55. Hope I can
find a USB adapter so I can try it with Mobius on the laptop,
especially curious about how the GR-55 delay will sound when I do
abrupt tempo changes in the Mobius looper.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub

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I feel like this might have been asked before, but outside of the new =
"side car" is there any other way to use, say a Boss single FS5 type of =
switch to access the all stop/all play function of the Boomerang?  =
Certainly the switch on the Boomerang itself works fine (though it seems =
to be slightly less sensitive than the "loop" switches), but as a singer =
as well as a guitarist, I have found it distracting to look down to make =
sure I hit it correctly.

Any ideas?
John=

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Yeah--
My idea is to put a volume pedal at the end of the chain, before the amp--
Not that I do that--
I saw a guy using an RC-50 on Ellen today, he knelt down at the end of the
tune to manually fade the loop.
I guess SOMEBODY likes the RC-50 . . .
G

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Boomerang Alternative All Stop/Play

I feel like this might have been asked before, but outside of the new "side
car" is there any other way to use, say a Boss single FS5 type of switch to
access the all stop/all play function of the Boomerang?  Certainly the
switch on the Boomerang itself works fine (though it seems to be slightly
less sensitive than the "loop" switches), but as a singer as well as a
guitarist, I have found it distracting to look down to make sure I hit it
correctly.

Any ideas?
John

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From: Clayton Gary Lehmann [mailto:hqr@cox.net] 
I wrote:

I saw a guy using an RC-50 on Ellen today, he knelt down at the end of the

tune to manually fade the loop.

I guess SOMEBODY likes the RC-50 . . .

G

Here is the guy, from a recent other appearance . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0IeQ4-oT2M

He does battle with the midget RC-and loses . . .

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don't know how much of an artist I am but I'm a programmer and in the
nineties I wrote a fractal graphics software (using Pascal) that I would
write in Processing today - maybe I will when I have time. Some images here:
http://www.michaelpeters.de/computergraphics.htm - art or not, they were
shown in various exhibitions :)

-Michael

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looking at the new RC-300 im starting to have my doubts about the
boomerang being the best current stomp looper option for singers
songwritters
we might argue that the rang=B4s size beats it,bit uf u add the side car
which i see is almost "a must" size becomes irrelelvant now,plus the
price tag of those 2 together doesnt make it any more atractive...
i dont know which one requires more tap dancing and on of the things
im most curious about the Rc300 is if you can have different loop
lenghts on the 3 tracks...
There is no manual yet but from looking at the videos the buttons on
RC300 seems to be very well laid out,including the all start/stop
functions
any further thoughts?









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> Yeah--
> My idea is to put a volume pedal at the end of the chain, before the amp-=
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> Not that I do that--
> I saw a guy using an RC-50 on Ellen today, he knelt down at the end of th=
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> I guess SOMEBODY likes the RC-50 . . .
> G
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: john floridis [mailto:john@johnfloridis.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 3:53 PM
> To: Delight Loopers
> Subject: Boomerang Alternative All Stop/Play
>
> I feel like this might have been asked before, but outside of the new "si=
de
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to
> access the all stop/all play function of the Boomerang? =A0Certainly the
> switch on the Boomerang itself works fine (though it seems to be slightly
> less sensitive than the "loop" switches), but as a singer as well as a
> guitarist, I have found it distracting to look down to make sure I hit it
> correctly.
>
> Any ideas?
> John
>
>



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I've been using the Boomerang for lower profile gigs or ones where =
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There are things I like better about the basic looping features on the =
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finding it a bit harder to be singing and doing all stop stuff at the =
same time with the Boomerang. =20

That RC300 HAS to have different loop lengths for each track.  That =
would be idiotic to regress from the RC50 which has that to then not =
having it on the RC300.  I still might use an FS5 for that for all stop, =
as that is the way I roll with the RC50.  It's just nice to be able to =
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There are some nice processing examples here, though I don't know if they
hit your definition of art.

http://www.creativeapplications.net/tag/processing/

-m

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 2:02 AM, mark francombe <markfrancombe@gmail.com>wrote:

> Jesus, fantastic post Sylvain!
>
> i am typing from iPhone on a shoot right now, so can't respond with
> the response it deserves, but Im indebted to your post, and you are
> completely correct In everything you say, i was talking simply as a
> NON coder, but someone who has tried many many many times. i fail due
> to syntax everytime, however gimme code for what i need, and i can
> change it for My use.
> this has led me to many frustrating dead ends and time wasted when i
> could have been creating. My opinion would differ if i had succeeded
> of course.
>
> i will never say that the artist programmer does not exist, just that
> In My experience, i find that the best results are with great
> partnerships between both.
>
> i stand by My statement that i havent seen anything artistic done with
> Processing, i will watch your link when i Get to a computer, and crave
> more examples...
>
>
> mark
>
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<br>There are some nice processing examples here, though I don&#39;t know i=
f they hit your definition of art.<br><br><a href=3D"http://www.creativeapp=
lications.net/tag/processing/">http://www.creativeapplications.net/tag/proc=
essing/</a><br>
<br>-m<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 2:02 AM, m=
ark francombe <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:markfrancombe@gmail.c=
om">markfrancombe@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-l=
eft:1ex;">
Jesus, fantastic post Sylvain!<br>
<br>
i am typing from iPhone on a shoot right now, so can&#39;t respond with<br>
the response it deserves, but Im indebted to your post, and you are<br>
completely correct In everything you say, i was talking simply as a<br>
NON coder, but someone who has tried many many many times. i fail due<br>
to syntax everytime, however gimme code for what i need, and i can<br>
change it for My use.<br>
this has led me to many frustrating dead ends and time wasted when i<br>
could have been creating. My opinion would differ if i had succeeded<br>
of course.<br>
<br>
i will never say that the artist programmer does not exist, just that<br>
In My experience, i find that the best results are with great<br>
partnerships between both.<br>
<br>
i stand by My statement that i havent seen anything artistic done with<br>
Processing, i will watch your link when i Get to a computer, and crave<br>
more examples...<br>
<br>
<br>
mark<br>
<br>
<br>
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I didn't realise you did graphics too Michael - what a talented guy!
Peace=2C

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> From: mp@mpeters.de
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: RE: OT: VJ Programs... becoming a meandering critisism of progra=
mming/processing
> Date: Thu=2C 29 Sep 2011 08:35:19 +0200
>=20
> don't know how much of an artist I am but I'm a programmer and in the
> nineties I wrote a fractal graphics software (using Pascal) that I would
> write in Processing today - maybe I will when I have time. Some images he=
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Very nice Per!Puts me in mind of Ennio Morriconne - and that's a GOOD thing=
..
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> Date: Wed=2C 28 Sep 2011 19:17:39 +0200
> Subject: Re: GR-55 (Re: What is Boyson doing exactly?)
> From: perboysen@gmail.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=20
> Yes I like the GR-55 a lot too. Here's what I just recorded with it today=
:
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4963264/pressure_of_beauty.mp3
>=20
> You can hear the bad buzz noise in the very first feedback notes. That
> sucks=2C but I kept it anyway since that's not a major part of the piece
> - and after all=2C back when we recorded on analog every damn cable
> fizzled like this! =3B-))
>=20
> Everything in this recording goes through the GR-55. The two e-bow
> guitars (Epiphone Les Paul) do=3B one with just the GR-55 limiter and
> the other one with whawha-pedal and the "Jazz Combo" amp sim of the
> GR-55 (the only amp sim I found useful). The sitar guitar is played
> with the Stick - that has the GK-3 mounted - and uses no direct sound=2C
> just the Cosm modeled "Coral Sitar Guitar". I layered two synth string
> tones behind the sitar tone for sweatening. The bass was played on the
> Stick Guitar's bass fretboard using the same "Jazz Combo" amp sim in
> the GR-55.
>=20
> Per
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Wed=2C Sep 28=2C 2011 at 3:48 PM=2C Thomas Wegmann <theweg@gmail.com> =
wrote:
> > I setup an open G Minor acoustic with some delay and noticed the same b=
uzz.
> > I tried tweaking the amp sim volume to compensate which did help but I =
have
> > not yet tried simultaneously controling Delay Feedback=2C Delay Volume =
& Delay
> > Tone Volume with one pedal.  I do like this pedal more than the last fe=
w so
> > please continue to post your efforts=2C it is much appreciated.
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@loopers-delight.com<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B Yes I like the GR-55 a lot too. H=
ere's what I just recorded with it today:<br>&gt=3B http://dl.dropbox.com/u=
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ept it anyway since that's not a major part of the piece<br>&gt=3B - and af=
ter all=2C back when we recorded on analog every damn cable<br>&gt=3B fizzl=
ed like this! =3B-))<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B Everything in this recording goes=
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=3B one with just the GR-55 limiter and<br>&gt=3B the other one with whawha=
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sm modeled "Coral Sitar Guitar". I layered two synth string<br>&gt=3B tones=
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 Stick Guitar's bass fretboard using the same "Jazz Combo" amp sim in<br>&g=
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=3B not yet tried simultaneously controling Delay Feedback=2C Delay Volume =
&amp=3B Delay<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B Tone Volume with one pedal.&nbsp=3B I do lik=
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http://tinyurl.com/pendulumLOOP

thanks Rick, well worth a visit.

andy

Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote:
> do you have a functional link?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kevin
> 
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
>> Beautiful visual loop showing visual pattern consonance and dissonance
>>
>>
>> TinyURL.com/pendulumLOOP

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john floridis wrote:

> That RC300 _HAS t_o have different loop lengths for each track.  That 
> would be idiotic to regress from the RC50 which has that to then 
> /not/ having it on the RC300.  

your point being ?

:-)

andy

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LOL!  "Damn, it hangs... but battery only lasts for two hours so it's
gonna be ok I guess"

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Clayton Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net> wrote:
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> I wrote:
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> I saw a guy using an RC-50 on Ellen today, he knelt down at the end of th=
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> tune to manually fade the loop.
>
> I guess SOMEBODY likes the RC-50 . . .
>
> G
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> Here is the guy, from a recent other appearance . . .
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D_0IeQ4-oT2M
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> He does battle with the midget RC=E2=80=94and loses . . .
>
> Gnarly

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well then thats cool,i dont have any experience with any of them,the
only one ive tired is the RC 30 which has 2 tracks but whos tracks
have to be the same lenght and one of the reasons i didnt buy it.
cheers
Luis

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>> That RC300 _HAS t_o have different loop lengths for each track. =A0That
>> would be idiotic to regress from the RC50 which has that to then /not/
>> having it on the RC300.
>
> your point being ?
>
> :-)
>
> andy
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Thanks Brian!

That would definitely work with certain kinds of loops, but with long =
washes of sound, I don't think there's anything except a nice long =
crossfade that'll make it sound smooth!

On 28 Sep 2011, at 15:24, BC wrote:

> Whenever I need to "butt" two waveforms together in Sonar, I make sure =
that I hook them together at a zero crossing point, meaning a place =
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definitely work with certain kinds of loops, but with long washes of =
sound, I don't think there's anything except a nice long crossfade =
that'll make it sound smooth!</div><div><br><div><div>On 28 Sep 2011, at =
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Sonar, I make sure that I hook them together at a zero crossing point, =
meaning a place where both waveforms cross the zero axis. That way I get =
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Ahh!!  That's it - thanks so much, Jeff.  You're right - with some =
loops, it's better to have an isolated recording than a smooth =
crossfade, with others, a crossfade is a must.  It'll have to be =
adjustable!

Loopy does do seamless record-to-overdub transitioning already (and I =
have the depleted brain-power to prove it), but I have the feeling that =
more might be needed for a proper, smooth crossfade, than just a tail.

If I do only a microfade at the beginning of the recording (instead of =
crossfading over extra audio recorded before and after, and then =
overlapped), then regardless of the length of the tail on the overdub, =
it'll still have a hard beginning.

If I microfade over a longer time, from the beginning of the loop, then =
there'll be a hole...

So, the only alternative I can think of is to do what I'm doing =
currently - keeping an extra chunk of audio in the buffer at all times, =
so that when recording starts, that preceding audio can be popped into =
the start of the recording, overlapped with the end, and crossfaded.  =
That way, beat 1 is present and unmolested, but smooth.  Is that =
moderately sensible?

Anyway, that's totally the solution though - I'll add a slider so that =
users can adjust the crossfade duration, which will cause (duration =F7 =
2) seconds to be prepended to the recording, and (duration =F7 2) =
seconds extra recording at the end, and overlap this & fade.

Cheers =3D)
Michael


> I think the most common approach to this in current loopers is to give
> the performer an option to transition seamlessly from Record mode to
> Overdub mode when the recording ends.  There is then no fade-to-zero =
at
> the end of the loop, the current sound carries over seamlessly to the
> start of the loop.  The performer then has control over when they
> stop the overdub.
> =20
> This does require an extra user action to end the overdub.  But it
> gives them control over how long the recording "tail" is.  For
> example a very short tail may be all you need to avoid a fade bump in
> a drone or pad sound, but if you had a cymbal crash toward the end of
> the loop you would want that to fully decay so the tail must be =
longer.
> =20
> Automating the end of the overdub would be cool, but I'd recommend
> having a parameter that the user can set to control the tail length so =
they
> can adjust it depending on what they're playing.
> =20
> > but a user was commenting that he can clearly hear the
> > following downbeat after the recording of a loop
> =20
> I'm not sure what you mean here, but if the performer is playing
> something percussive and the end of the loop is followed immediately
> by a sound with a sharp attack that you don't want to include in the
> recorded loop...yes, that's the tradeoff of seamless overdub.  In
> these cases though, the fade-to-zero is often less noticeable because
> the sharp downbeat takes the listener's attention away from the fade.
> This is why it is best if the record tail is user controllable,
> sometimes you want it and sometimes you don't
> =20
> Jeff


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<html><head><base href=3D"x-msg://154/"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: =
break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
after-white-space; "><div>Ahh!! &nbsp;That's it - thanks so much, Jeff. =
&nbsp;You're right - with some loops, it's better to have an isolated =
recording than a smooth crossfade, with others, a crossfade is a must. =
&nbsp;It'll have to be adjustable!</div><div><br></div><div>Loopy does =
do seamless record-to-overdub transitioning already (and I have the =
depleted brain-power to prove it), but I have the feeling that more =
might be needed for a proper, smooth crossfade, than just a =
tail.</div><div><br></div><div>If I do only a microfade at the beginning =
of the recording (instead of crossfading over extra audio recorded =
before and after, and then overlapped), then regardless of the length of =
the tail on the overdub, it'll still have a hard =
beginning.</div><div><br></div><div>If I microfade over a longer time, =
from the beginning of the loop, then there'll be a =
hole...</div><div><br></div><div>So, the only alternative I can think of =
is to do what I'm doing currently - keeping an extra chunk of audio in =
the buffer at all times, so that when recording starts, that preceding =
audio can be popped into the start of the recording, overlapped with the =
end, and crossfaded. &nbsp;That way, beat 1 is present and unmolested, =
but smooth. &nbsp;Is that moderately =
sensible?</div><div><br></div><div>Anyway, that's totally the solution =
though - I'll add a slider so that users can adjust the crossfade =
duration, which will cause (duration =F7 2) seconds to be prepended to =
the recording, and (duration =F7 2) seconds extra recording at the end, =
and overlap this &amp; fade.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers =
=3D)</div><div>Michael</div><div><br></div><div><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: =
separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: =
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text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div =
lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div class=3D"WordSection1" =
style=3D"page: WordSection1; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I =
think the most common approach to this in current loopers is to =
give<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">the =
performer an option to transition seamlessly from Record mode =
to<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Overdub =
mode when the recording ends.&nbsp; There is then no fade-to-zero =
at<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">the end of =
the loop, the current sound carries over seamlessly to =
the<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">start of =
the loop.&nbsp; The performer then has control over when =
they<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">stop the =
overdub.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">This =
does require an extra user action to end the overdub.&nbsp; But =
it<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">gives them =
control over how long the recording "tail" is.&nbsp; =
For<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">example a =
very short tail may be all you need to avoid a fade bump =
in<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">a drone or =
pad sound, but if you had a cymbal crash toward the end =
of<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">the loop =
you would want that to fully decay so the tail must be =
longer.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); =
">Automating the end of the overdub would be cool, but I'd =
recommend<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); =
">having a parameter that the user can set to control the tail length so =
they<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">can adjust =
it depending on what they're playing.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">&gt; =
but a user was commenting that he can clearly hear =
the<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">&gt; =
following downbeat after the recording of a =
loop<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I'm =
not sure what you mean here, but if the performer is =
playing<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); =
">something percussive and the end of the loop is followed =
immediately<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">by a =
sound with a sharp attack that you don't want to include in =
the<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">recorded =
loop...yes, that's the tradeoff of seamless overdub.&nbsp; =
In<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">these cases =
though, the fade-to-zero is often less noticeable =
because<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">the =
sharp downbeat takes the listener's attention away from the =
fade.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">This =
is why it is best if the record tail is user =
controllable,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); =
">sometimes you want it and sometimes you =
don't<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: =
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"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: =
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Hey Sylvain,

Wow - that's one great looking little device!  Do you have any idea what =
the latency of these is like? Given that it's bluetooth, I'd be a bit =
concerned that there'd be a bit of a delay before registering a press, =
which would play merry havoc with the timing.

Loopy'll definitely work with traditional pedals though, via MIDI - not =
quite yet, but I'll be adding MIDI support really soon.

On 28 Sep 2011, at 19:38, Sylvain Poitras wrote:

> Hi Micheal,
> Would Loopy HD work with those bluetooth page turning pedals for the
> ipad so it could operate hands free?
>=20
> for instance:  http://airturn.com/bt-105/
>=20
> Sylvain
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:27 AM, Michael Tyson =
<michael@atastypixel.com> wrote:
>> A little shameless self-promotion, I know, but it may be of interest =
- here's a demo I just put together of Loopy HD, the iPad (and =
universal) version of the live-looper iPhone app Loopy (loopyapp.com).
>>=20
>> http://youtu.be/0iMFZXvCsZQ
>>=20
>> The iPad version's got more tracks than the iPhone version - up to =
12; a new control interface, and a new colour scheme.  It's coming out =
on October 6, and will be half-price for a few days, $3.99, so that =
Loopy users can upgrade without having to pay full price.
>>=20
>> Would love to hear what you think!
>>=20
>> Cheers =3D)
>> Michael
>>=20
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Hi,
I don't own one, so I can't really speak to its latency.  It should be
tolerable, given that it's supposed to fill a music function (if one
that's not as timing critical as looping).  I think the issue with
Bluetooth might have more to do with dropped connections...

Good to hear about the midi pedals, I'll keep an eye out for your updates.

Sylvain


On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 7:08 AM, Michael Tyson <michael@atastypixel.com> wr=
ote:
> Hey Sylvain,
>
> Wow - that's one great looking little device! =A0Do you have any idea wha=
t the latency of these is like? Given that it's bluetooth, I'd be a bit con=
cerned that there'd be a bit of a delay before registering a press, which w=
ould play merry havoc with the timing.
>
> Loopy'll definitely work with traditional pedals though, via MIDI - not q=
uite yet, but I'll be adding MIDI support really soon.
>
> On 28 Sep 2011, at 19:38, Sylvain Poitras wrote:
>
>> Hi Micheal,
>> Would Loopy HD work with those bluetooth page turning pedals for the
>> ipad so it could operate hands free?
>>
>> for instance: =A0http://airturn.com/bt-105/
>>
>> Sylvain
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:27 AM, Michael Tyson <michael@atastypixel.com>=
 wrote:
>>> A little shameless self-promotion, I know, but it may be of interest - =
here's a demo I just put together of Loopy HD, the iPad (and universal) ver=
sion of the live-looper iPhone app Loopy (loopyapp.com).
>>>
>>> http://youtu.be/0iMFZXvCsZQ
>>>
>>> The iPad version's got more tracks than the iPhone version - up to 12; =
a new control interface, and a new colour scheme. =A0It's coming out on Oct=
ober 6, and will be half-price for a few days, $3.99, so that Loopy users c=
an upgrade without having to pay full price.
>>>
>>> Would love to hear what you think!
>>>
>>> Cheers =3D)
>>> Michael
>>>
>>
>
>

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Nice work Michael!
Your "Action Plotting" reminds me of an oil paining I made a couple years ago.
Sylvain

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
> don't know how much of an artist I am but I'm a programmer and in the
> nineties I wrote a fractal graphics software (using Pascal) that I would
> write in Processing today - maybe I will when I have time. Some images here:
> http://www.michaelpeters.de/computergraphics.htm - art or not, they were
> shown in various exhibitions :)
>
> -Michael
>
>

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As long as you provide seamless record-to-overdub
the a user will be able to make a seamless loop.
It's usually done by the user's technique rather than
a looper feature.
i.e.  this is a 'customer support' issue 
    rather than a programming one  ;-)

Your crossfade option here looks pretty good though.


andy


Michael Tyson wrote:

> Loopy does do seamless record-to-overdub transitioning already (and I 

> So, the only alternative I can think of is to do what I'm doing 
> currently - keeping an extra chunk of audio in the buffer at all times, 
> so that when recording starts, that preceding audio can be popped into 
> the start of the recording, overlapped with the end, and crossfaded. 
>  That way, beat 1 is present and unmolested, but smooth.  Is that 
> moderately sensible?

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Oh pish tosh, everything's a programming issue ;-)

Hehe, righto - well, sounds good, I shall proceed with adding a =
configurable crossfade duration.

Thanks heaps!


On 29 Sep 2011, at 13:37, andy butler wrote:

> As long as you provide seamless record-to-overdub
> the a user will be able to make a seamless loop.
> It's usually done by the user's technique rather than
> a looper feature.
> i.e.  this is a 'customer support' issue    rather than a programming =
one  ;-)
>=20
> Your crossfade option here looks pretty good though.
>=20
>=20
> andy
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>=20
> Michael Tyson wrote:
>=20
>> Loopy does do seamless record-to-overdub transitioning already (and I=20=

>=20
>> So, the only alternative I can think of is to do what I'm doing =
currently - keeping an extra chunk of audio in the buffer at all times, =
so that when recording starts, that preceding audio can be popped into =
the start of the recording, overlapped with the end, and crossfaded.  =
That way, beat 1 is present and unmolested, but smooth.  Is that =
moderately sensible?
>=20

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I feel you,  Matt.

There's something a tiny bit dishonest about it.......and yet,  I like 
the concept.

Rick Walker



On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Matt Davignon wrote:
> There was something that bothered me about these clips, including 
> "musician plays a tree" (also featuring Diego) and "music for one 
> apartment and six drummers". I gradually figured out that it's not the 
> musicians themselves. I see Diego as taking the torch from  Matmos and 
> running with it. He is doing a lot of creative stuff.
>
> The thing that bugs me is the video treatment and promotion. He's not 
> really playing a dry cleaning shop as an instrument - he's making lots 
> of tiny recordings, then arranging them on the computer to make music. 
> The video treatment suggests that he's playing all the "instruments" 
> from start to finish live.
>
> The "music for one apartment and six drummers" video 
> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVPVbc8LgP4) specifically lies to you 
> - it doesn't even show the computer! Somehow, the drummers are able to 
> amplify the sounds of perfume bottles, etc without microphones. Also, 
> the sounds of books being dropped on the floor sound like handclaps, 
> and sound exactly the same each time.
>
> So yeah, it puts the sensationalism above the music, and that bugs me. 


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    I feel you,&nbsp; Matt.<br>
    <br>
    There's something a tiny bit dishonest about it.......and yet,&nbsp; I
    like the concept.<br>
    <br>
    Rick Walker<br>
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    On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Matt Davignon wrote:
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      clips, including "musician plays a tree" (also featuring Diego)
      and "music for one apartment and six drummers". I gradually
      figured out that it's not the musicians themselves. I see Diego as
      taking the torch from&nbsp; Matmos and running with it. He is doing a
      lot of creative stuff. <br>
      <br>
      The thing that bugs me is the video treatment and promotion. He's
      not really playing a dry cleaning shop as an instrument - he's
      making lots of tiny recordings, then arranging them on the
      computer to make music. The video treatment suggests that he's
      playing all the "instruments" from start to finish live. <br>
      <br>
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      computer! Somehow, the drummers are able to amplify the sounds of
      perfume bottles, etc without microphones. Also, the sounds of
      books being dropped on the floor sound like handclaps, and sound
      exactly the same each time.<br>
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I don't know, it seems we're imposing our aesthetic imperative on
Diego.  He's doing his own thing (and quite well).  I don't think he
ever claimed these videos were live recordings, and all the editing
cuts should make that obvious in any case.  What I take from those
videos is a context for the sounds he creates.  Whereas you view it as
a recorded performance, instead he's showing us how he made his sounds
and where they're from...  this is contrary to the acousmatic's
tradition of obscuring reference to the sound source.  I appreciate
that... it makes me want to hit things and make my own instruments.

My favorite of his videos is the basso forte:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dlhp6P9Ygsoc

I think it's a mix of recorded performance and editing magic.
Regardless, it's genius in my book.
Sylvain

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
> I feel you,=A0 Matt.
>
> There's something a tiny bit dishonest about it.......and yet,=A0 I like =
the
> concept.
>
> Rick Walker
>
>
>
> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Matt Davignon wrote:
>
> There was something that bothered me about these clips, including "musici=
an
> plays a tree" (also featuring Diego) and "music for one apartment and six
> drummers". I gradually figured out that it's not the musicians themselves=
. I
> see Diego as taking the torch from=A0 Matmos and running with it. He is d=
oing
> a lot of creative stuff.
>
> The thing that bugs me is the video treatment and promotion. He's not rea=
lly
> playing a dry cleaning shop as an instrument - he's making lots of tiny
> recordings, then arranging them on the computer to make music. The video
> treatment suggests that he's playing all the "instruments" from start to
> finish live.
>
> The "music for one apartment and six drummers" video
> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DsVPVbc8LgP4) specifically lies to you -=
 it
> doesn't even show the computer! Somehow, the drummers are able to amplify
> the sounds of perfume bottles, etc without microphones. Also, the sounds =
of
> books being dropped on the floor sound like handclaps, and sound exactly =
the
> same each time.
>
> So yeah, it puts the sensationalism above the music, and that bugs me.
>

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It's just the normal way of making a music video; you record the music
in a studio and then you play back the mix and act in front of the
camera. Shouldn't be confused with documentary live shooting.

Per




On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Sylvain Poitras
<sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't know, it seems we're imposing our aesthetic imperative on
> Diego. =C2=A0He's doing his own thing (and quite well). =C2=A0I don't thi=
nk he
> ever claimed these videos were live recordings, and all the editing
> cuts should make that obvious in any case. =C2=A0What I take from those
> videos is a context for the sounds he creates. =C2=A0Whereas you view it =
as
> a recorded performance, instead he's showing us how he made his sounds
> and where they're from... =C2=A0this is contrary to the acousmatic's
> tradition of obscuring reference to the sound source. =C2=A0I appreciate
> that... it makes me want to hit things and make my own instruments.
>
> My favorite of his videos is the basso forte:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dlhp6P9Ygsoc
>
> I think it's a mix of recorded performance and editing magic.
> Regardless, it's genius in my book.
> Sylvain
>
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
>> I feel you,=C2=A0 Matt.
>>
>> There's something a tiny bit dishonest about it.......and yet,=C2=A0 I l=
ike the
>> concept.
>>
>> Rick Walker
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Matt Davignon wrote:
>>
>> There was something that bothered me about these clips, including "music=
ian
>> plays a tree" (also featuring Diego) and "music for one apartment and si=
x
>> drummers". I gradually figured out that it's not the musicians themselve=
s. I
>> see Diego as taking the torch from=C2=A0 Matmos and running with it. He =
is doing
>> a lot of creative stuff.
>>
>> The thing that bugs me is the video treatment and promotion. He's not re=
ally
>> playing a dry cleaning shop as an instrument - he's making lots of tiny
>> recordings, then arranging them on the computer to make music. The video
>> treatment suggests that he's playing all the "instruments" from start to
>> finish live.
>>
>> The "music for one apartment and six drummers" video
>> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DsVPVbc8LgP4) specifically lies to you =
- it
>> doesn't even show the computer! Somehow, the drummers are able to amplif=
y
>> the sounds of perfume bottles, etc without microphones. Also, the sounds=
 of
>> books being dropped on the floor sound like handclaps, and sound exactly=
 the
>> same each time.
>>
>> So yeah, it puts the sensationalism above the music, and that bugs me.
>>
>
>

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It's all about the price point.
I agree about the Boomerang, I haven't bought the Sidecar yet even tho it
would make life easier--the 'Rang III was expensive.
But I probably will once the money starts rolling in because "Quality is
remembered long after price is forgotten" and Mike Nelson didn't cut
corners.
Roland drives me nuts.

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john floridis wrote:

> That RC300 _HAS t_o have different loop lengths for each track.  That 
> would be idiotic to regress from the RC50 which has that to then 
> /not/ having it on the RC300.  

your point being ?

:-)

andy

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I am still deciding between a Boomerang and the RC300, but would snap up a
used 'Rang really quick ($400 or less for that is money very well spent).  I
tried to like the Roland stuff from the start, as it is easy to buy used,
generally well built, and I've liked their other products, but they all seem
to have a fatal flaw (usually brought up after release) that I just can't
get around.

The RC300 sounds amazing, but I am concerned about "glitches".  The layout
looks great and very user friendly.  It would be the ultimate if it 1.)
worked as advertised and 2.) would some how allow for one of the channels to
always be effected.  Specifically, if I could insert an octave down effect
that was always on just that one channel...not a deal breaker, as the rest
of it seems perfect for live work.

But in that way, I could always use one for beatboxing, one for singing bass
lines, and the last one for my rhythm harmonica part without stomping on
more than the looper.  I could play for hours live with a setup like that,
lol.  Right now I am using my M13 and have to tap dance to get to the
"bass".

Maybe effects loops for every channel will eventually be on the market?
----------
Mike Fugazzi
vocals/harmonica
http://www.mikefugazzi.com
Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/MikeFugazziMusic>
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On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Clayton Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net> wrote:

> It's all about the price point.
> I agree about the Boomerang, I haven't bought the Sidecar yet even tho it
> would make life easier--the 'Rang III was expensive.
> But I probably will once the money starts rolling in because "Quality is
> remembered long after price is forgotten" and Mike Nelson didn't cut
> corners.
> Roland drives me nuts.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: andy butler [mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk]
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 1:28 AM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: Boomerang Alternative All Stop/Play/ RC300 vs Rang III
>
>
>
> john floridis wrote:
>
> > That RC300 _HAS t_o have different loop lengths for each track.  That
> > would be idiotic to regress from the RC50 which has that to then
> > /not/ having it on the RC300.
>
> your point being ?
>
> :-)
>
> andy
>
>

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I am still deciding between a Boomerang and the RC300, but would snap up a =
used &#39;Rang really quick ($400 or less for that is money very well spent=
).=A0 I tried to like the Roland stuff from the start, as it is easy to buy=
 used, generally well built, and I&#39;ve liked their other products, but t=
hey all seem to have a fatal flaw (usually brought up after release) that I=
 just can&#39;t get around.<br>

<br>The RC300 sounds amazing, but I am concerned about &quot;glitches&quot;=
.=A0 The layout looks great and very user friendly.=A0 It would be the ulti=
mate if it 1.) worked as advertised and 2.) would some how allow for one of=
 the channels to always be effected.=A0 Specifically, if I could insert an =
octave down effect that was always on just that one channel...not a deal br=
eaker, as the rest of it seems perfect for live work.<br>

<br>But in that way, I could always use one for beatboxing, one for singing=
 bass lines, and the last one for my rhythm harmonica part without stomping=
 on more than the looper.=A0 I could play for hours live with a setup like =
that, lol.=A0 Right now I am using my M13 and have to tap dance to get to t=
he &quot;bass&quot;.<br>

<br>Maybe effects loops for every channel will eventually be on the market?=
<br clear=3D"all">----------<br>Mike Fugazzi<br>vocals/harmonica<br><a href=
=3D"http://www.mikefugazzi.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.mikefugazzi.co=
m</a><br>

<a href=3D"http://www.facebook.com/MikeFugazziMusic" target=3D"_blank">Face=
book</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.mikefugazzi.com/fr_customharmonicas.cfm" =
target=3D"_blank">Quicksilver Custom Harmonicas </a><br><br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Clayton=
 Gary Lehmann <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hqr@cox.net">hqr@cox.=
net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">

It&#39;s all about the price point.<br>
I agree about the Boomerang, I haven&#39;t bought the Sidecar yet even tho =
it<br>
would make life easier--the &#39;Rang III was expensive.<br>
But I probably will once the money starts rolling in because &quot;Quality =
is<br>
remembered long after price is forgotten&quot; and Mike Nelson didn&#39;t c=
ut<br>
corners.<br>
Roland drives me nuts.<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: andy butler [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk">akbutle=
r@tiscali.co.uk</a>]<br>
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 1:28 AM<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@=
loopers-delight.com</a><br>
Subject: Re: Boomerang Alternative All Stop/Play/ RC300 vs Rang III<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
john floridis wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; That RC300 _HAS t_o have different loop lengths for each track. =A0Tha=
t<br>
&gt; would be idiotic to regress from the RC50 which has that to then<br>
&gt; /not/ having it on the RC300.<br>
<br>
your point being ?<br>
<br>
:-)<br>
<br>
andy<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br>

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You know Mike, software might be the way to go for you=97
There=92s lots of looper freeware, if you already have a laptop, you =
could
probably set up what you need, and spend your money on a good footpedal =
to
control it all . . .
If there=92s anything in the budget for looping software, there=92s some =
great
stuff available as well=97and folks on this list (other than myself) are =
very
knowledgeable about it.
So here=92s the need, as I understand it=97
First loop is a percussion track=97
Second is a bass track?
And any further tracks would be melody/chord?
Gnarly

________________________________________
From: Mike Fugazzi [mailto:mikefugazzi@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 6:07 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
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I am still deciding between a Boomerang and the RC300, but would snap up =
a
used 'Rang really quick ($400 or less for that is money very well =
spent).=A0 I
tried to like the Roland stuff from the start, as it is easy to buy =
used,
generally well built, and I've liked their other products, but they all =
seem
to have a fatal flaw (usually brought up after release) that I just =
can't
get around.

The RC300 sounds amazing, but I am concerned about "glitches".=A0 The =
layout
looks great and very user friendly.=A0 It would be the ultimate if it =
1.)
worked as advertised and 2.) would some how allow for one of the =
channels to
always be effected.=A0 Specifically, if I could insert an octave down =
effect
that was always on just that one channel...not a deal breaker, as the =
rest
of it seems perfect for live work.

But in that way, I could always use one for beatboxing, one for singing =
bass
lines, and the last one for my rhythm harmonica part without stomping on
more than the looper.=A0 I could play for hours live with a setup like =
that,
lol.=A0 Right now I am using my M13 and have to tap dance to get to the
"bass".

Maybe effects loops for every channel will eventually be on the market?
----------
Mike Fugazzi
vocals/harmonica
http://www.mikefugazzi.com
Facebook
Quicksilver Custom Harmonicas=20



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Correct.  I am totally a novice about computer looping.  I have a PC with a=
n
i5 processor.  That is about as computer literate as I get, lol.  Is there =
a
resource I can check out explaining the basics of doing it this way?  I lik=
e
the idiot-proofness of the M13, lol.  I think the Boomerang would work
really well too.  However, the Boss RC300 does look ideal for a pedal.

Ultimately, I'd like control over the following as individual loops that ca=
n
be started/stopped in real time for live performance.  I would probably not
do much recording with it.  I use two mics...one dedicated to vocals, and
the other for all my "instruments".  In other words, I beatbox, sing bass
lines, and play harmonica all to one mic.  With the M13, I use the stereo
outs to send one feed to the mixer and another to an amp.  I then mix the
two.

So the ideal looper would let me start/stop/overdub on the following tracks
and then give me a universal start/stop...

1.  beatbox
2.  bass singing (I turn on a POG2)
3.  harmonica

***bonus
4. lead vocals

In that way, while I might be limited to chord progressions to an extent, I
would be able to vary dynamics by dropping out one of the three recordings.
Son of Dave does this all with a Akai Headrush.  However, he can't undo
separate loops. It is all but the original recording or nothing.
----------
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http://www.mikefugazzi.com
Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/MikeFugazziMusic>
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On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Clayton Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net> wrote:

> You know Mike, software might be the way to go for you=97
> There=92s lots of looper freeware, if you already have a laptop, you coul=
d
> probably set up what you need, and spend your money on a good footpedal t=
o
> control it all . . .
> If there=92s anything in the budget for looping software, there=92s some =
great
> stuff available as well=97and folks on this list (other than myself) are =
very
> knowledgeable about it.
> So here=92s the need, as I understand it=97
> First loop is a percussion track=97
> Second is a bass track?
> And any further tracks would be melody/chord?
> Gnarly
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Mike Fugazzi [mailto:mikefugazzi@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 6:07 AM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: Roland the Idiot Musical Instrument Manufacturer
>
> I am still deciding between a Boomerang and the RC300, but would snap up =
a
> used 'Rang really quick ($400 or less for that is money very well spent).
> I
> tried to like the Roland stuff from the start, as it is easy to buy used,
> generally well built, and I've liked their other products, but they all
> seem
> to have a fatal flaw (usually brought up after release) that I just can't
> get around.
>
> The RC300 sounds amazing, but I am concerned about "glitches".  The layou=
t
> looks great and very user friendly.  It would be the ultimate if it 1.)
> worked as advertised and 2.) would some how allow for one of the channels
> to
> always be effected.  Specifically, if I could insert an octave down effec=
t
> that was always on just that one channel...not a deal breaker, as the res=
t
> of it seems perfect for live work.
>
> But in that way, I could always use one for beatboxing, one for singing
> bass
> lines, and the last one for my rhythm harmonica part without stomping on
> more than the looper.  I could play for hours live with a setup like that=
,
> lol.  Right now I am using my M13 and have to tap dance to get to the
> "bass".
>
> Maybe effects loops for every channel will eventually be on the market?
> ----------
> Mike Fugazzi
> vocals/harmonica
> http://www.mikefugazzi.com
> Facebook
> Quicksilver Custom Harmonicas
>
>
>
>

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Correct.=A0 I am totally a novice about computer looping.=A0 I have a PC wi=
th an i5 processor.=A0 That is about as computer literate as I get, lol.=A0=
 Is there a resource I can check out explaining the basics of doing it this=
 way?=A0 I like the idiot-proofness of the M13, lol.=A0 I think the Boomera=
ng would work really well too.=A0 However, the Boss RC300 does look ideal f=
or a pedal.<br>

<br>Ultimately, I&#39;d like control over the following as individual loops=
 that can be started/stopped in real time for live performance.=A0 I would =
probably not do much recording with it.=A0 I use two mics...one dedicated t=
o vocals, and the other for all my &quot;instruments&quot;.=A0 In other wor=
ds, I beatbox, sing bass lines, and play harmonica all to one mic.=A0 With =
the M13, I use the stereo outs to send one feed to the mixer and another to=
 an amp.=A0 I then mix the two.<br>

<br>So the ideal looper would let me start/stop/overdub on the following tr=
acks and then give me a universal start/stop...<br><br>1.=A0 beatbox<br>2.=
=A0 bass singing (I turn on a POG2)<br>3.=A0 harmonica<br><br>***bonus <br>=
4. lead vocals<br>

<br>In that way, while I might be limited to chord progressions to an exten=
t, I would be able to vary dynamics by dropping out one of the three record=
ings.=A0 Son of Dave does this all with a Akai Headrush.=A0 However, he can=
&#39;t undo separate loops. It is all but the original recording or nothing=
.<br clear=3D"all">

----------<br>Mike Fugazzi<br>vocals/harmonica<br><a href=3D"http://www.mik=
efugazzi.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.mikefugazzi.com</a><br><a href=
=3D"http://www.facebook.com/MikeFugazziMusic" target=3D"_blank">Facebook</a=
><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.mikefugazzi.com/fr_customharmonicas.cfm" target=3D"_b=
lank">Quicksilver Custom Harmonicas </a><br>
<br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Clayton=
 Gary Lehmann <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hqr@cox.net">hqr@cox.=
net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">

You know Mike, software might be the way to go for you=97<br>
There=92s lots of looper freeware, if you already have a laptop, you could<=
br>
probably set up what you need, and spend your money on a good footpedal to<=
br>
control it all . . .<br>
If there=92s anything in the budget for looping software, there=92s some gr=
eat<br>
stuff available as well=97and folks on this list (other than myself) are ve=
ry<br>
knowledgeable about it.<br>
So here=92s the need, as I understand it=97<br>
First loop is a percussion track=97<br>
Second is a bass track?<br>
And any further tracks would be melody/chord?<br>
Gnarly<br>
<br>
________________________________________<br>
From: Mike Fugazzi [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:mikefugazzi@gmail.com">mikefug=
azzi@gmail.com</a>]<br>
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 6:07 AM<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@=
loopers-delight.com</a><br>
Subject: Re: Roland the Idiot Musical Instrument Manufacturer<br>
<br>
I am still deciding between a Boomerang and the RC300, but would snap up a<=
br>
used &#39;Rang really quick ($400 or less for that is money very well spent=
).=A0 I<br>
tried to like the Roland stuff from the start, as it is easy to buy used,<b=
r>
generally well built, and I&#39;ve liked their other products, but they all=
 seem<br>
to have a fatal flaw (usually brought up after release) that I just can&#39=
;t<br>
get around.<br>
<br>
The RC300 sounds amazing, but I am concerned about &quot;glitches&quot;.=A0=
 The layout<br>
looks great and very user friendly.=A0 It would be the ultimate if it 1.)<b=
r>
worked as advertised and 2.) would some how allow for one of the channels t=
o<br>
always be effected.=A0 Specifically, if I could insert an octave down effec=
t<br>
that was always on just that one channel...not a deal breaker, as the rest<=
br>
of it seems perfect for live work.<br>
<br>
But in that way, I could always use one for beatboxing, one for singing bas=
s<br>
lines, and the last one for my rhythm harmonica part without stomping on<br=
>
more than the looper.=A0 I could play for hours live with a setup like that=
,<br>
lol.=A0 Right now I am using my M13 and have to tap dance to get to the<br>
&quot;bass&quot;.<br>
<br>
Maybe effects loops for every channel will eventually be on the market?<br>
----------<br>
Mike Fugazzi<br>
vocals/harmonica<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.mikefugazzi.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.mikefug=
azzi.com</a><br>
Facebook<br>
Quicksilver Custom Harmonicas<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br>

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A beautiful use of Wavedrum Looping with Ableton Live and an iPad
running Touch OSC  by Matt Kilmer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF8fL_sgAzY&feature=related

This clip really excites me.

(((((((((((()))))))))))))

A couple of tech questions for the cognoscenti:

I'm not that familiar with Ableton's live..........How is he able to
map his keyboard to do the small micro retriggers of his recording
and still keep the tempo and placement in his original loop?

I've seen this done in Stutter Edit software, but wasn't aware of it as 
a technique
in Live.

Also,   can you preset 'effects'  groups before you record your first loop
in Ableton's?

(((((((((((()))))))))))))))

This is, quite honestly, the first time that I've wanted to own a Wavedrum.

A very hip track and Matt is just a 'killer'  finger percussionist!!!!!

Wow!!!!!!!

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Nice Michael!!!

Very impressed.

On Sep 28, 2011, at 11:35 PM, Michael Peters wrote:

> don't know how much of an artist I am but I'm a programmer and in the
> nineties I wrote a fractal graphics software (using Pascal) that I =
would
> write in Processing today - maybe I will when I have time. Some images =
here:
> http://www.michaelpeters.de/computergraphics.htm - art or not, they =
were
> shown in various exhibitions :)
>=20
> -Michael

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Well, if computers are not your thing, hardware loopers are the way to go.
I am thinking that your best bet is to have a MIDI pedal and a LP-1, the
Looperlative. They aren't cheap tho . . .
The pitch shifter for the bass line should be MIDI too, so that you can end
the first loop, change the effects to lower the pitch, and start the second
loop.
Get your wallet out . . .


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Wonderful stuff Michael!

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:

> don't know how much of an artist I am but I'm a programmer and in the
> nineties I wrote a fractal graphics software (using Pascal) that I would
> write in Processing today - maybe I will when I have time. Some images
> here:
> http://www.michaelpeters.de/computergraphics.htm - art or not, they were
> shown in various exhibitions :)
>
> -Michael
>
>


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Wonderful stuff Michael!<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 28, =
2011 at 11:35 PM, Michael Peters <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mp=
@mpeters.de">mp@mpeters.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex;">
don&#39;t know how much of an artist I am but I&#39;m a programmer and in t=
he<br>
nineties I wrote a fractal graphics software (using Pascal) that I would<br=
>
write in Processing today - maybe I will when I have time. Some images here=
:<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.michaelpeters.de/computergraphics.htm" target=3D"_bla=
nk">http://www.michaelpeters.de/computergraphics.htm</a> - art or not, they=
 were<br>
shown in various exhibitions :)<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
-Michael<br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Art Simon<br><a =
href=3D"mailto:simart@gmail.com">simart@gmail.com</a><br>myspace [dot] com/=
artsimon<br>

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Hey Rick,

Did you, like me, think to yourself, this would look really much
better painted in dayglo under a blacklight?

Kevin

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 1:25 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote=
:
> http://tinyurl.com/pendulumLOOP
>
> thanks Rick, well worth a visit.
>
> andy
>
> Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote:
>>
>> do you have a functional link?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote=
:
>>>
>>> Beautiful visual loop showing visual pattern consonance and dissonance
>>>
>>>
>>> TinyURL.com/pendulumLOOP
>
>



--=20
Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org
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There's one like that In the related videos if you click thru to YouTube.

-Hans

On Sep 29, 2011, at 8:10 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com> wrot=
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> Hey Rick,
>=20
> Did you, like me, think to yourself, this would look really much
> better painted in dayglo under a blacklight?
>=20
> Kevin
>=20
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 1:25 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrot=
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>> http://tinyurl.com/pendulumLOOP
>>=20
>> thanks Rick, well worth a visit.
>>=20
>> andy
>>=20
>> Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote:
>>>=20
>>> do you have a functional link?
>>>=20
>>> Thanks,
>>>=20
>>> Kevin
>>>=20
>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote=
:
>>>>=20
>>>> Beautiful visual loop showing visual pattern consonance and dissonance
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> TinyURL.com/pendulumLOOP
>>=20
>>=20
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> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.=

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> Sound and Vision:  http://www.minds-eye.org
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I have a pretty solid pedal board going for my ambient/experimental stuff. I
usually just run guitar through it, but I was wondering if it was possible
to run multiple instruments into one board?

Running my board in the aux of a mixer sounds ideal, but I only two auxes
and need to put my loopers somewhere.

I would like to run my synth/vox/guitar/drums into the board. Is this even
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I have a pretty solid pedal board going for my ambient/experimental stuff. =
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board. Is this even possible to do?</div>

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Yes.  There are a few ways to do it from A/B/Y type pedals (I think Radial
Engineering does this), to DI's, to having a separate dedicated mixer.  I
think that is what KT Tunstall does.  She sends her guitar and vocals into a
mixer then into her board/Akai Headrush Looper.

I am sure someone can point to more specific gear to do this, but I'd
imagine a separate mixer would be pretty cost effective.  It would also get
you better control of the signal going into your board.  Obviously, it needs
an instrument level out, though.
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On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 12:23 PM, marcus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com>wrote:

> I have a pretty solid pedal board going for my ambient/experimental stuff.
> I usually just run guitar through it, but I was wondering if it was possible
> to run multiple instruments into one board?
>
> Running my board in the aux of a mixer sounds ideal, but I only two auxes
> and need to put my loopers somewhere.
>
> I would like to run my synth/vox/guitar/drums into the board. Is this even
> possible to do?
>

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Yes.=A0 There are a few ways to do it from A/B/Y type pedals (I think Radia=
l Engineering does this), to DI&#39;s, to having a separate dedicated mixer=
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<br>I am sure someone can point to more specific gear to do this, but I&#39=
;d imagine a separate mixer would be pretty cost effective.=A0 It would als=
o get you better control of the signal going into your board.=A0 Obviously,=
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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 12:23 PM, marcus=
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I have a pretty solid pedal board going for my ambient/experimental stuff. =
I usually just run guitar through it, but I was wondering if it was possibl=
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 board in the aux of a mixer sounds ideal, but I only two auxes and need to=
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board. Is this even possible to do?</div>
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GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY:                   http://galactictravels.info
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Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the
month-long Special Focus on Robert Carty.  The Featured CD at Midnight
will be "Starlight Volume 2" by Robert Carty on Deep Sky Music.
Details are at the Special Focus page at:
http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#sep

In the first part of the show, Dean De Benedictis and Vic Hennegan
return to WDIY to play a live, in-studio concert.  They will be playing
at the next Soundscapes Concert Series on October 2.

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1
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Sunday, October 2, the Soundscapes Concert Series returns to the 
Nazareth Center for the Arts with two great acts; Dean De Benedictis & 
Vic Hennegan (California) and Bernhard Wostheinrich (Germany).

DEAN DE BENEDICTIS: Dean's music is the result of his will to tie an 
essential common thread together between opposing genres and mentalities 
as well as draw from them a natural sense of emotion, expanse and 
mystery. This Southern California-based visual and conceptual artist, 
known as Surface 10, has always utilized his interest in a variety of 
styles and cultures to enrich the quality of his musical expression.

VIC HENNEGAN: An artist and a spiritualist, Hennegan contemplates the 
state of humanity through his music. Hennegans instinctive hand creates 
techno-trance and ambient music in a wildly fun, uplifting spiritual 
experience that will take your soul on a journey to the center of 
ecstasy. His music emanates a unique warmth which moves the listener to 
a state of euphoria.

BERNHARD WOSTHEINRICH: Bernhard leads his own solo project "The 
Redundant Rocker." His main collaborator is Markus Reuter (in 
CENTROZOON) and he has also worked with Ian Boddy, Klaus Hoffmann-Hoock, 
No-Man singer Tim Bowness, Thorsten Niestrath, and Synapscape's Philipp 
Münch.

Bernhard elicits meaning from abstraction in electronic music and 
painting. He has studied graphic design and has created an eclectic body 
of work in both graphics and music. Using a compositional approach akin 
to his work as a visual artist, Bernhard usually begins by improvising 
abstract sonic structures which are subsequently developed into an 
increasingly detailed aural picture.

Bernhard is a composer, painter, graphic designer, performer, small town 
bohemian, failed control freak, and, finally, even a record label owner 
in Germany. His projects and albums have been released on a variety of 
labels and span different fields of electronic and ambient music. In 
about 1987, he began to intensely experiment with his own sounds and 
tunes after finding out that drawing and painting simply werent enough 
to adequately express himself. Bernhard sought something that would have 
a more performing approach. Inspired by the likes of Einstürzende 
Neubauten and other informal and experimental music, he finally began to 
work in a very personal way to compose and record some early tapes. The 
rest, as they say, is history.

Doors open at 7:30 pm and the concert is at 8:00 pm. The concert is 
free. Donations are requested to support the musician and to enable the 
Nazareth Center for the Arts to pay operating expenses. The NCA is 
located at 30 Belvidere Street, Nazareth, PA 18064 just off of Route 191 
on the southwest corner of Belvidere Street and South Spruce Street. 
Check the NCA site for parking information.

The Soundscapes Concert Series is the concert companion to the Galactic 
Travels radio program on WDIY-FM and to Thought Radio on WMUH-FM and 
presents electronic music to the Lehigh Valley. This is the concert 
series that presented Robert Rich (California), vidnaObmana (Belgium), 
The Ministry of Inside Things (Philadelphia), Richard Lainhart (New 
York), Orbital Decay (Quakertown), Mark Jenkins (UK), Modulator ESP 
(UK), Mikronesia (Philadelphia), The Tangent Project (Philadelphia), 
Chuck Van Zyl (Philadelphia), Technicolor Travel Agency (Poconos), and 
Twyndyllyngs (Lehigh Valley) to local audiences.

The SCS:
http://soundscapes.us

Get a little taste of the concert tonight on GALACTIC TRAVELS.

Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the 
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Per Boysen wrote:
> BUMMMER! GR-55 can not merge MIDI! MIDI coming in over the MIDI In
> port is not merged into what is sent out through the USB MIDI Out
> port. Oh well, guess I have to buy a USB adapter then.

Hrm, I was hoping they'd fix that on later models, but it doesn't look 
like they did.  :(

Frankly, Per, I was trying to do the same as you with the VG's USB 
interface.  I finally dropkicked due to the following:

1. I'd also tripped over the lack of support for MIDI merge.  So if I 
were going to need a merge box rather than daisy-chaining the devices, I 
figured I might as well just plug the MIDI directly into the audio 
interface.

2. You can't use the VG itself as an audio interface for your computer; 
it's simply impractical.  Whenever you switch programs on the Roland, it 
mutes the output for *all* audio going out its audio jacks.  HUGE design 
flaw, IMNSHO.  So if you're looping on the computer and need to switch 
patches on the VG, there's suddenly a half-second mute of everything 
including the loops you've already recorded.  Hell, even if you're 
merely using nothing more than a reverb or delay plug-in, you're going 
to hear a big gap in the tail as you switch patches.

3. I found that the timing felt "tighter" using the S/PDIF output into 
the computer.  I perceived the USB output as being a bit loosey-goosey, 
almost as if there were a bit more latency added there.  I'd imagine 
that may be because of the digital clock sync via SPDIF.  Or it could 
have completely been a perception and bias thing.  I dunno.

Regardless, when I discovered I needed to use two cables regardless 
(either MIDI + USB, or MIDI + S/PDIF), I decided to chuck the USB.  Of 
course, YMMV, but you may want to compare USB audio against merely 
running the S/PDIF directly into your Audiofire to see which you prefer.

	--m.

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Wow, man you got me pretty scared there!!!  ;-)  I immediately jumped
away from the computer keyboard to the GR-55 and tried to make a loop
in Mobius and then switch program on the GR-55. Phiew, Roland fixed
that issue on this one. I can tap dance through my GR-55 patches all
while Mobius plays back my recent loops through the GR-55.

To recapture: I bought a $5 USB hub today and set up this system:

USB cable A:
- GR-55 sends audio directly out into the PA.
- GR-55 sends USB audio into a laptop running the standalone Mobius looper.
- Mobius on the lappy sends tempo clock as USB MIDI to the GR-55 that
follows loop tempo.

USB cable B:
- Gordius Little Giant 2 sends USB MIDI into Mobius (for looping
action commands).

USB cable C:
- Faderfox hand mixer sends USB MIDI into Mobius to control the mix,
feedback and alternative feedback.

That's it. Only three USB cables to pop in, switch on the devices and
finally the computer. Very small and convenient for lugging around. As
for using a full range/frequency instrument as the Stick I think the
audio fidelity of the GR-55 sounds just as good as the RME interfaces
I'm used to.

Heck, if starting out on a budget I wouldn't hesitate to buy a GR-55
plus a pair of Genelec monitors for the money otherwise spent on the
RME audio interface. Ok, you would be locked into a corner but fully
creative corner to stay in for a while. Thinking about what you get
with the GR-55 is close to mind blowing; all the classic Roland synth
sounds, an audio interface that also works for mixing, lots of effects
that can be modulated both by manual pedals/switch and MIDI or
internal virtual sweeps. Internal mixer routing can be set up
according to two optional schemes. One basically daisy-chains all
effects while the other offer two busses that can be treated
differently. Reverb and delay are handled as send/return loops.

But since I'm not starting out fresh I really appreciate my RME for
recording acoustic instruments through a high quality mic at 48k that
are demanded by certain clients.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub



On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 9:11 PM, Dust Bunnies <mech@m3ch.net> wrote:
> Per Boysen wrote:
>>
>> BUMMMER! GR-55 can not merge MIDI! MIDI coming in over the MIDI In
>> port is not merged into what is sent out through the USB MIDI Out
>> port. Oh well, guess I have to buy a USB adapter then.
>
> Hrm, I was hoping they'd fix that on later models, but it doesn't look li=
ke
> they did. =C2=A0:(
>
> Frankly, Per, I was trying to do the same as you with the VG's USB
> interface. =C2=A0I finally dropkicked due to the following:
>
> 1. I'd also tripped over the lack of support for MIDI merge. =C2=A0So if =
I were
> going to need a merge box rather than daisy-chaining the devices, I figur=
ed
> I might as well just plug the MIDI directly into the audio interface.
>
> 2. You can't use the VG itself as an audio interface for your computer; i=
t's
> simply impractical. =C2=A0Whenever you switch programs on the Roland, it =
mutes
> the output for *all* audio going out its audio jacks. =C2=A0HUGE design f=
law,
> IMNSHO. =C2=A0So if you're looping on the computer and need to switch pat=
ches on
> the VG, there's suddenly a half-second mute of everything including the
> loops you've already recorded. =C2=A0Hell, even if you're merely using no=
thing
> more than a reverb or delay plug-in, you're going to hear a big gap in th=
e
> tail as you switch patches.
>
> 3. I found that the timing felt "tighter" using the S/PDIF output into th=
e
> computer. =C2=A0I perceived the USB output as being a bit loosey-goosey, =
almost
> as if there were a bit more latency added there. =C2=A0I'd imagine that m=
ay be
> because of the digital clock sync via SPDIF. =C2=A0Or it could have compl=
etely
> been a perception and bias thing. =C2=A0I dunno.
>
> Regardless, when I discovered I needed to use two cables regardless (eith=
er
> MIDI + USB, or MIDI + S/PDIF), I decided to chuck the USB. =C2=A0Of cours=
e, YMMV,
> but you may want to compare USB audio against merely running the S/PDIF
> directly into your Audiofire to see which you prefer.
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0--m.
>
>

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On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 9:11 PM, Dust Bunnies <mech@m3ch.net> wrote:
> S/PDIF

Well, the GR-55 doesn't have a S/PDIF.

And on second listening I'm not totally happy with how a clean Chapman
Stick sounds right through the GR-55. Too early to say, but it seems
there's something fishy with the "experienced brilliancy" dimension of
the sound - compared to the RME (that sounds just gorgeous). The sound
coming out of the GR-55 reminds me a bit of the dodgy feeling you get
when playing a single coil guitar through an amp at a venue where the
grounding sucks. Not sure this matters for everyone so please don't
take this audiophile contemplation too seriously ;-)

Yesterday I thought the GR-55 sounded great! But then I wasn't using
it as USB audio/MIDI interface but rather recorded its two line
outputs into a stereo line input on the RME as well as MIDI slave
syncing the GR-55. Maybe its fidelity gets a bit "dumbed down" by the
USB audio activity? I thought that wouldn't affect the direct output
though, but then I'm not very tech savvy.

Per

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simply put, yes to both questions...

that could be stutter edit, but it also might be Ableton's own beat repeat.
 now that's a real easy way to do it.  There are a few videos on Beat Repeat
which will show you how, or Per or I can walk you through it.

and yes,  you can preset pretty much anything in ableton live or adjust it
using a midi clip.  If the effect is on a looping channel, that's all you
need to start with.

did this answer your question in a basic form, Rick?

All best,

todd



A couple of tech questions for the cognoscenti:
>
> I'm not that familiar with Ableton's live..........How is he able to
> map his keyboard to do the small micro retriggers of his recording
> and still keep the tempo and placement in his original loop?
>
>

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simply put, yes to both questions...=A0<div><br></div><div>that could be st=
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hich will show you how, or Per or I can walk you through it. =A0</div>

<div><br></div><div>and yes, =A0you can preset pretty much anything in able=
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It smells a bit like clock issues.  Is there a clock input on the GR55? On y=
our RME thing?

Might be irrelevant, but I found my sound improved noticeably when I slaved a=
ll digital stuff to a master clock.  "Dumbing down" sounds like clock weirdn=
ess.  Jitter?

I'm sure you know this, Per.  I just had a minute and felt like raising my h=
and in class, even if my answer was shaky.

Richard Sales
Sent from my IPad
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On Sep 29, 2011, at 1:28 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 9:11 PM, Dust Bunnies <mech@m3ch.net> wrote:
>> S/PDIF
>=20
> Well, the GR-55 doesn't have a S/PDIF.
>=20
> And on second listening I'm not totally happy with how a clean Chapman
> Stick sounds right through the GR-55. Too early to say, but it seems
> there's something fishy with the "experienced brilliancy" dimension of
> the sound - compared to the RME (that sounds just gorgeous). The sound
> coming out of the GR-55 reminds me a bit of the dodgy feeling you get
> when playing a single coil guitar through an amp at a venue where the
> grounding sucks. Not sure this matters for everyone so please don't
> take this audiophile contemplation too seriously ;-)
>=20
> Yesterday I thought the GR-55 sounded great! But then I wasn't using
> it as USB audio/MIDI interface but rather recorded its two line
> outputs into a stereo line input on the RME as well as MIDI slave
> syncing the GR-55. Maybe its fidelity gets a bit "dumbed down" by the
> USB audio activity? I thought that wouldn't affect the direct output
> though, but then I'm not very tech savvy.
>=20
> Per
>=20

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No digital clock issue here, Richard. Right now the GR-55 is the only
audio interface connected to the computer. When I use two RME
interfaces and connect them by S/PDIF or digital ADAT one goes as
master and the other as slave. But there isn't a possibility for a
digital clock frequency conflict here with the GR-55. I think it is
just another proof for the saying that in digital audio you always
"get what you pay for" ;-))

For the stuff I do the GR-55 doesn't have a chance of replacing a RME
interface. I was just saying that for a freshman starting out in live
electronics performing plus studio producing a GR-55 can be a quick
starter.

Per



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te:
> It smells a bit like clock issues. =C2=A0Is there a clock input on the GR=
55? On your RME thing?
>
> Might be irrelevant, but I found my sound improved noticeably when I slav=
ed all digital stuff to a master clock. =C2=A0"Dumbing down" sounds like cl=
ock weirdness. =C2=A0Jitter?
>
> I'm sure you know this, Per. =C2=A0I just had a minute and felt like rais=
ing my hand in class, even if my answer was shaky.
>
> Richard Sales
> Sent from my IPad
> www.glasswing.com
>
>
> On Sep 29, 2011, at 1:28 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 9:11 PM, Dust Bunnies <mech@m3ch.net> wrote:
>>> S/PDIF
>>
>> Well, the GR-55 doesn't have a S/PDIF.
>>
>> And on second listening I'm not totally happy with how a clean Chapman
>> Stick sounds right through the GR-55. Too early to say, but it seems
>> there's something fishy with the "experienced brilliancy" dimension of
>> the sound - compared to the RME (that sounds just gorgeous). The sound
>> coming out of the GR-55 reminds me a bit of the dodgy feeling you get
>> when playing a single coil guitar through an amp at a venue where the
>> grounding sucks. Not sure this matters for everyone so please don't
>> take this audiophile contemplation too seriously ;-)
>>
>> Yesterday I thought the GR-55 sounded great! But then I wasn't using
>> it as USB audio/MIDI interface but rather recorded its two line
>> outputs into a stereo line input on the RME as well as MIDI slave
>> syncing the GR-55. Maybe its fidelity gets a bit "dumbed down" by the
>> USB audio activity? I thought that wouldn't affect the direct output
>> though, but then I'm not very tech savvy.
>>
>> Per
>>
>
>

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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote:
> Hey Rick,
>
> Did you, like me, think to yourself, this would look really much
> better painted in dayglo under a blacklight?
Oh, great minds think alike,  Kevin........<grin>

rick

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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, todd reynolds wrote:
> simply put, yes to both questions...
>
> that could be stutter edit, but it also might be Ableton's own beat 
> repeat.  now that's a real easy way to do it.  There are a few videos 
> on Beat Repeat which will show you how, or Per or I can walk you 
> through it.
>
> and yes,  you can preset pretty much anything in ableton live or 
> adjust it using a midi clip.  If the effect is on a looping channel, 
> that's all you need to start with.
>
> did this answer your question in a basic form, Rick?
Yes,  thanks a lot, Todd,

Looks like I have to take a closer look at Ableton's.

I've been pushing for this kind of functionality in the LP-1 and I think 
it will happen,
it's just that the LP-2 parts got so back ordered that it became less of 
a priority.

What did you think of his video, by the way.  I really enjoyed it.  He's 
a fantastic
frame drummer.

yours,  Rick

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te:
> =C2=A0Is there a clock input on the GR55? On your RME thing?


I disconnected the GR-55 as audio interface and plugged in the RME
Fireface into the computer and cabled the GR-55's analog output into
the analog input of the RME - wow, much better sounding! Obviously the
GR-55 sounds less good when paying audio interface services to a
computer (being the only digital audio device, hence no digital clock
flutter issue possible).

Per

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What is that touch controller he is using?

On Sep 29, 2011, at 10:59 PM, Rick Walker wrote:

> A beautiful use of Wavedrum Looping with Ableton Live and an iPad
> running Touch OSC  by Matt Kilmer.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF8fL_sgAzY&feature=related
>
> This clip really excites me.
>
> (((((((((((()))))))))))))
>
> A couple of tech questions for the cognoscenti:
>
> I'm not that familiar with Ableton's live..........How is he able to
> map his keyboard to do the small micro retriggers of his recording
> and still keep the tempo and placement in his original loop?
>
> I've seen this done in Stutter Edit software, but wasn't aware of it  
> as a technique
> in Live.
>
> Also,   can you preset 'effects'  groups before you record your  
> first loop
> in Ableton's?
>
> (((((((((((()))))))))))))))
>
> This is, quite honestly, the first time that I've wanted to own a  
> Wavedrum.
>
> A very hip track and Matt is just a 'killer'  finger  
> percussionist!!!!!
>
> Wow!!!!!!!
>


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Ed,

He's using an iPad as the touch controller =97 communicating w/ Ableton
LIve via Touch OSC. Expect to more and more of this in the immediate
future.

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On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Ed Durbrow <edurbrow@sea.plala.or.jp> wrot=
e:
> What is that touch controller he is using?
> On Sep 29, 2011, at 10:59 PM, Rick Walker wrote:
>
> A beautiful use of Wavedrum Looping with Ableton Live and an iPad
> running Touch OSC =A0by Matt Kilmer.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DCF8fL_sgAzY&feature=3Drelated
>
> This clip really excites me.
>
> (((((((((((()))))))))))))
>
> A couple of tech questions for the cognoscenti:
>
> I'm not that familiar with Ableton's live..........How is he able to
> map his keyboard to do the small micro retriggers of his recording
> and still keep the tempo and placement in his original loop?
>
> I've seen this done in Stutter Edit software, but wasn't aware of it as a
> technique
> in Live.
>
> Also, =A0=A0can you preset 'effects' =A0groups before you record your fir=
st loop
> in Ableton's?
>
> (((((((((((()))))))))))))))
>
> This is, quite honestly, the first time that I've wanted to own a Wavedru=
m.
>
> A very hip track and Matt is just a 'killer' =A0finger percussionist!!!!!
>
> Wow!!!!!!!
>
>
>
> Ed Durbrow
> Saitama, Japan
> http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/
> http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/
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Oh wait, did you say iPad? Wow, it looks so big. Due to perspective I  
guess. I didn't know they made them in black.
Back to lurking.


On Sep 30, 2011, at 7:58 AM, Ed Durbrow wrote:

> What is that touch controller he is using?
>
> On Sep 29, 2011, at 10:59 PM, Rick Walker wrote:
>
>> A beautiful use of Wavedrum Looping with Ableton Live and an iPad
>> running Touch OSC  by Matt Kilmer.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF8fL_sgAzY&feature=related
>>
>> This clip really excites me.
>>
>> (((((((((((()))))))))))))
>>
>> A couple of tech questions for the cognoscenti:
>>
>> I'm not that familiar with Ableton's live..........How is he able to
>> map his keyboard to do the small micro retriggers of his recording
>> and still keep the tempo and placement in his original loop?
>>
>> I've seen this done in Stutter Edit software, but wasn't aware of  
>> it as a technique
>> in Live.
>>
>> Also,   can you preset 'effects'  groups before you record your  
>> first loop
>> in Ableton's?
>>
>> (((((((((((()))))))))))))))
>>
>> This is, quite honestly, the first time that I've wanted to own a  
>> Wavedrum.
>>
>> A very hip track and Matt is just a 'killer'  finger  
>> percussionist!!!!!
>>
>> Wow!!!!!!!
>>
>
>
> Ed Durbrow
> Saitama, Japan
> http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/
> http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/
>
>
>


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They were originally ONLY in black; now they have black ones and white ones=
 =85

~~D.

http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin
http://audiozoloft.com
http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/



On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Ed Durbrow <edurbrow@sea.plala.or.jp> wrot=
e:
> Oh wait, did you say iPad? Wow, it looks so big. Due to perspective I gue=
ss.
> I didn't know they made them in black.
> Back to lurking.
>
> On Sep 30, 2011, at 7:58 AM, Ed Durbrow wrote:
>
> What is that touch controller he is using?
> On Sep 29, 2011, at 10:59 PM, Rick Walker wrote:
>
> A beautiful use of Wavedrum Looping with Ableton Live and an iPad
> running Touch OSC =A0by Matt Kilmer.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DCF8fL_sgAzY&feature=3Drelated
>
> This clip really excites me.
>
> (((((((((((()))))))))))))
>
> A couple of tech questions for the cognoscenti:
>
> I'm not that familiar with Ableton's live..........How is he able to
> map his keyboard to do the small micro retriggers of his recording
> and still keep the tempo and placement in his original loop?
>
> I've seen this done in Stutter Edit software, but wasn't aware of it as a
> technique
> in Live.
>
> Also, =A0=A0can you preset 'effects' =A0groups before you record your fir=
st loop
> in Ableton's?
>
> (((((((((((()))))))))))))))
>
> This is, quite honestly, the first time that I've wanted to own a Wavedru=
m.
>
> A very hip track and Matt is just a 'killer' =A0finger percussionist!!!!!
>
> Wow!!!!!!!
>
>
>
> Ed Durbrow
> Saitama, Japan
> http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/
> http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/
>
>
>
>
> Ed Durbrow
> Saitama, Japan
> http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/
> http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/
>
>
>

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I can only see the first 13 seconds due to slow internet here right
now. But wow, that sounds nice! Nice being able to play the wavedrum
with finger tapping like on a Chapman Stick.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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www.looproom.com internet music hub



On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 12:58 AM, Ed Durbrow <edurbrow@sea.plala.or.jp> wro=
te:
> What is that touch controller he is using?
> On Sep 29, 2011, at 10:59 PM, Rick Walker wrote:
>
> A beautiful use of Wavedrum Looping with Ableton Live and an iPad
> running Touch OSC =C2=A0by Matt Kilmer.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DCF8fL_sgAzY&feature=3Drelated
>
> This clip really excites me.
>
> (((((((((((()))))))))))))
>
> A couple of tech questions for the cognoscenti:
>
> I'm not that familiar with Ableton's live..........How is he able to
> map his keyboard to do the small micro retriggers of his recording
> and still keep the tempo and placement in his original loop?
>
> I've seen this done in Stutter Edit software, but wasn't aware of it as a
> technique
> in Live.
>
> Also, =C2=A0=C2=A0can you preset 'effects' =C2=A0groups before you record=
 your first loop
> in Ableton's?
>
> (((((((((((()))))))))))))))
>
> This is, quite honestly, the first time that I've wanted to own a Wavedru=
m.
>
> A very hip track and Matt is just a 'killer' =C2=A0finger percussionist!!=
!!!
>
> Wow!!!!!!!
>
>
>
> Ed Durbrow
> Saitama, Japan
> http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/
> http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/
>
>
>

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hey gang i just finished recording a little acoustic instrumental and
thought id share it with you because i need your ears since mine are
exhausted;-)
any comments good or bad are welcome;-)

http://soundcloud.com/luis-angulo

you can also post comments on facebook
thanx for listening!
cheers
Luis

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beautiful stuff Michael!
Luis

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
> don't know how much of an artist I am but I'm a programmer and in the
> nineties I wrote a fractal graphics software (using Pascal) that I would
> write in Processing today - maybe I will when I have time. Some images here:
> http://www.michaelpeters.de/computergraphics.htm - art or not, they were
> shown in various exhibitions :)
>
> -Michael
>
>



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http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/110929.html

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem,
PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet.  WDIY also broadcasts
in Digital HD at 88.1 FM.

                 Show #756                September 29, 2011.

RECAP:
On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Robert Carty.  The
Featured CD at Midnight was "Starlight Volume 2" on Deep Sky Music.
http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#sep

Dean De Benedictis and Vic Hennegan played a live set from the studios
of WDIY.  They will play at the Soundscapes Concert Series on Sunday,
October 2.  Bernhard Wostheinrich of Germany will also be on the bill.
See the Events Page for details.
http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/events.html


PLAYLIST:

11:04 pm
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Kevin Braheny        Starflight 1 *       Galaxies (Hearts of Space)
Dean De Benedictis   Concert from Glactic Travels #602 --
   and Vic Hennegan
Dean De Benedictis   Interview
   and Vic Hennegan
Dean De Benedictis   Live on-air concert
   and Vic Hennegan

12:00 am
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Robert Carty         Galactic Winds       Starlight Vol. 2 (Deep Sky)
Robert Carty         In Jupitor's Light   Starlight Vol. 2 (Deep Sky)
Robert Carty         Milkyway Drift       Starlight Vol. 2 (Deep Sky)
Robert Carty         Rising Orion         Starlight Vol. 2 (Deep Sky)
Robert Carty         Praesepe             Starlight Vol. 2 (Deep Sky)
Robert Carty         The Steady Nighrt    Starlight Vol. 2 (Deep Sky)
Robert Carty         Star Breathing       Starlight Vol. 2 (Deep Sky)
Robert Carty         Galaxy Dreams        Starlight Vol. 2 (Deep Sky)

1:00 am

  * = excerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
++ = Advance CDR from Artist
-- = Background music under interview


NEXT SHOW:
On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on Steve
Roach.  The Featured CD at Midnight will be the first disk from "Live
at Grace Cathedral" on Timeroom Editions.
http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#oct

Bill
========================================================================
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on 88.1 FM.
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I seem to recall someone on the list working on a similar project?
Sylvain

http://hackaday.com/2011/09/29/fully-fretted-guitar-midi-controller/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+hackaday%2FLgoM+%28Hack+a+Day%29&utm_content=Google+Reader

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not sure how much looping is on here, i'm sure a bit, but i just got my copy
a few days ago, it is really good, here's the vid promo of it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3losXlLVGw&feature=player_embedded

you can get it at tony levin's papabear records website....

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not sure how much looping is on here, i&#39;m sure a bit, but i just got my=
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<br>you can get it at tony levin&#39;s papabear records website....<br><br>=
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I loved this release.  Alan is over the top in way you seldom hear from him.

D
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> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3losXlLVGw&feature=player_embedded
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> you can get it at tony levin's papabear records website....
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> enjoy...
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<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I loved this release. &nbsp;Alan is over the top in way you seldom hear from him.<div><br></div><div>D<br><div><div>On Sep 30, 2011, at 9:53 AM, Scott Hansen wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">not sure how much looping is on here, i'm sure a bit, but i just got my copy a few days ago, it is really good, here's the vid promo of it:<br><br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3losXlLVGw&amp;feature=player_embedded">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3losXlLVGw&amp;feature=player_embedded</a><br>
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I'll second that regarding Alan. It's great to hear him sounding loose and
unrestrained. I hope they can find time to do this in a live setting.

Clint Allen

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com>wrote:

> I loved this release.  Alan is over the top in way you seldom hear from
> him.
>
> D
>
> On Sep 30, 2011, at 9:53 AM, Scott Hansen wrote:
>
> not sure how much looping is on here, i'm sure a bit, but i just got my
> copy a few days ago, it is really good, here's the vid promo of it:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3losXlLVGw&feature=player_embedded
>
> you can get it at tony levin's papabear records website....
>
> enjoy...
> s---
>
>
>


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Hi all-

I spotted this on eBay . . .

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nose-2-Expression-2-1-Line-6-DL4-M9-M13-EX1-/1606552
18622?pt=Guitar_Accessories
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Anyone try one?

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So many live loopers use beatboxing or 'instrument'-boxing to create 
rhythm tracks
for their loops.

This isn't looped but this guy takes it so such an amazing new level I 
thought I'd share it with
those who use this artform in their looping

DUBSTEP beatboxing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud1pMf-UnmQ

rick walker  -   'beatbox' on folks!!!!!

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I'm a little crestfallen that it's not an expression pedal that can be
controlled with one's nose, but it looks pretty useful anyway. If I wasn't
being very cautious about money, I'd probably buy one. I might anyway. I
greatly prefer things that are small and light.

Matt

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>  Hi all=97****
>
> I spotted this on eBay . . .****
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nose-2-Expression-2-1-Line-6-DL4-M9-M13-EX1-/1606=
55218622?pt=3DGuitar_Accessories&hash=3Ditem2567cc17be
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>
> Anyone try one?****
>
> G****
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I&#39;m a little crestfallen that it&#39;s not an expression pedal that can=
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 wasn&#39;t being very cautious about money, I&#39;d probably buy one. I mi=
ght anyway. I greatly prefer things that are small and light.<br>
<br>Matt<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 2:59 PM,=
 Clayton Gary Lehmann <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hqr@cox.net">=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-=
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size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><a href=3D"http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nose-2-=
Expression-2-1-Line-6-DL4-M9-M13-EX1-/160655218622?pt=3DGuitar_Accessories&=
amp;hash=3Ditem2567cc17be" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nose-2=
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I don't see any reason one cannot use their nose to control this device.

And it's not a lot of money, at $55 delivered for two channels.

I am going to try using an Ernie Ball stereo pedal on my Boomerang, and see
if it can control the feedback as well as the output volume.

G

 

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I'm a little crestfallen that it's not an expression pedal that can be
controlled with one's nose, but it looks pretty useful anyway. If I wasn't
being very cautious about money, I'd probably buy one. I might anyway. I
greatly prefer things that are small and light.

Matt

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Clayton Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net> wrote:

Hi all-

I spotted this on eBay . . .

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nose-2-Expression-2-1-Line-6-DL4-M9-M13-EX1-/1606552
18622?pt=Guitar_Accessories
<http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nose-2-Expression-2-1-Line-6-DL4-M9-M13-EX1-/160655
218622?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item2567cc17be> &hash=item2567cc17be

Anyone try one?

G




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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I'm a little =
crestfallen
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nose, but
it looks pretty useful anyway. If I wasn't being very cautious about =
money, I'd
probably buy one. I might anyway. I greatly prefer things that are small =
and
light.<br>
<br>
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this on eBay . . .</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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X1-/160655218622?pt=3DGuitar_Accessories&amp;hash=3Ditem2567cc17be"
target=3D"_blank">http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nose-2-Expression-2-1-Line-6-DL=
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Yeah, I wrote:

I am going to try using an Ernie Ball stereo pedal on my Boomerang, and see
if it can control the feedback as well as the output volume.

But it seems the 'Rang needs to see a stereo volume pedal to control FB-both
sides!

So I would need another pedal, one more piece o'gear, and it would affect
the thru signal as well.

I like the 'Rang, but it has its limitations . . .

Grumbly Gary


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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Ball stereo
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the
output volume.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dmaroon face=3DArial><span =
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see a stereo volume pedal to control FB&#8212;both =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dmaroon face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dmaroon face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dmaroon face=3DArial><span =
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I'm pretty sure I have an extra stereo EB expression pedal that I can =20=

part with, if anyone wants it.

Jeff

On Sep 30, 2011, at 6:03 PM, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote:

> Yeah, I wrote:
> I am going to try using an Ernie Ball stereo pedal on my Boomerang, =20=

> and see if it can control the feedback as well as the output volume.
> But it seems the =91Rang needs to see a stereo volume pedal to control =
=20
> FB=97both sides!
> So I would need another pedal, one more piece o=92gear, and it would =20=

> affect the thru signal as well.
> I like the =91Rang, but it has its limitations . . .
> Grumbly Gary


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