From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 1 00:03:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44AEE183466; Fri, 1 Jul 2011 00:03:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E0D0EB8.1040507@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:03:04 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Thought Radio Playlist for June 25, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110720 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 00:03:13 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2011/110625.html The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EDT/GMT-4 on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Show #201 June 25, 2011. On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. Each contemporary issue comes with a CD. However, the early issues came with a cassette. The cassettes from issues one through thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic slip covers with artwork and track details. Details are at: http://sequencesmagazine.com Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Steve Roach and The Next Place The Road Eternal (Projekt) Erik Wollo Memory Geist Metaphore Benthos (DiN DDL) VA [Mario Quit Earth Sequences No. 14 Schonwalder] VA [Coral Cave] The Energy of Sequences No. 14 Seaquest VA [Mark Dwane] Paaradigm Shift Sequences No. 14 Schonwalder and Cup 1 Filter-Kaffee 101 (SynGate) Rothe Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Stanton Lanier A Thousand Years A Thousand Years (none) VA [Bill Wren] En Mai Sounds from the Circle III (New Age Circle) VA [Nicky Bendix] Celtic Twilight Sounds from the Circle III (New Age Circle) VA [Laura Sullivan] The Serpent Mound Sounds from the Circle III (New Age Circle) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Riverside Living in the Past Memories In My Head (LLaser's Edge) Wobbler In Orbit Rites at Dawn (Termo) Pendragon Your Black Heart Passion (Madfish) Genesis The Musical Box * Nursery Cryme (Atlantic) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill Fox ======================================================================== Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EDT/GMT-4. Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music. Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Website - http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 1 01:40:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66F31183479; Fri, 1 Jul 2011 01:40:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E0D2598.8000109@biink.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 21:40:40 -0400 From: David Beardsley Reply-To: db@biink.com Organization: Biink & SSI User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com CC: Michael Peters Subject: Re: some video References: <4E0C93C7.3050305@biink.com> <72FE1E1734BD4B7A85BCCE8EB59B7547@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: <72FE1E1734BD4B7A85BCCE8EB59B7547@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110721 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 01:40:25 +0000 (UTC) On 6/30/2011 4:30 PM, Michael Peters wrote: >> listen to all three parts, it changes. > lol :) great drones David! Thanks Michael. I'm glad folks here get it. :) -- * David Beardsley * http://biink.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 1 01:46:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 99BFB183479; Fri, 1 Jul 2011 01:46:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-07-01_01:2011-06-30,2011-07-01,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1106300201 Subject: Re: some video From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: <4E0C93C7.3050305@biink.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 18:45:36 -0700 Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <896F8F03-BE49-48EE-8FB7-35411D4D14C7@mac.com> References: <4E0C93C7.3050305@biink.com> To: db@biink.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110722 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 01:46:32 +0000 (UTC) > listen to all three parts, it changes. Listen to it three times, and it changes 9 times more. i think this gave me a buzz! daniel On Jun 30, 2011, at 8:18 AM, David Beardsley wrote: > at last, I have some video on utube. > > > David Beardsley, microtonal guitar at Pianos, NYC 3-27-11 > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqUH3doD05U > > listen to all three parts, it changes. > > -- > * David Beardsley > * http://biink.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 1 04:56:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 342DA183478; Fri, 1 Jul 2011 04:56:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_ec13c27e-3425-46a0-9f75-525f05398514_" X-Originating-IP: [217.44.236.45] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: New Video - "Cigarettes & Sidewalks" by The Wandering Madman Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 04:56:03 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jul 2011 04:56:03.0742 (UTC) FILETIME=[2DFD6BE0:01CC37AB] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110723 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 04:56:05 +0000 (UTC) --_ec13c27e-3425-46a0-9f75-525f05398514_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there Fro=2C I kept waiting for an afghani child's face to pop up there somewhere or may= be a rich oil baron. I found politically=2C it towed the official western l= ine. I guess you're anti war but don't forget the innocent people whose liv= es have been ended or ruined by soldiers. Slick arrangement though. Peace Gareth From: parispro00@hotmail.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: New Video - "Cigarettes & Sidewalks" by The Wandering Madman Date: Thu=2C 30 Jun 2011 15:17:26 -0500 Long time no video. Hope everyone is doing well. Enjoy your weekend and if = you think this video should be heard=2C please help me by sharing it with y= our friends & family. www.youtube.com/TheWanderingMadman or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DpzRNFRBTW_w Enjoy. The Wandering Madman=20 = --_ec13c27e-3425-46a0-9f75-525f05398514_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi there Fro=2C
I kept waiting for an afghani child's face to pop up the= re somewhere or maybe a rich oil baron. I found politically=2C it towed the= official western line. I guess you're anti war but don't forget the innoce= nt people whose lives have been ended or ruined by soldiers.
Slick arran= gement though.

Peace

Gareth

From: parispro00@hotmail.com
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com<= br>Subject: New Video - "Cigarettes &=3B Sidewalks" by The Wandering Mad= man
Date: Thu=2C 30 Jun 2011 15:17:26 -0500

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http:= //www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DpzRNFRBTW_w


= --_ec13c27e-3425-46a0-9f75-525f05398514_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 1 07:53:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9EE0518347A; Fri, 1 Jul 2011 07:53:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=R8Q3pynLCV2FvAXtwSRP0M8IRAWAxeSk3NNHQnidyiQ=; b=j825bl79I3y+nNpoK8Enf/50tG3WBCUItKgA3wuPkNz+DgIXiEBDBS0F0jWc2WBlOG AoCwB782G0UFaeOPglPI/SrdwETk5Tjpt34i4kQDqlEf37luW7OsRVvIh8qXrqw8x6bs miDojzPKCCS9/dAfP2K9QpPGgMLy00+Xf6a8I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 09:53:06 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: OjfwwagtY9imkS-Lmw80_zcc3KQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Video - "Cigarettes & Sidewalks" by The Wandering Madman To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8cd401c60e04a6fd508b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110724 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 07:53:27 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8cd401c60e04a6fd508b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey Fro love your set-up there, great sound too - I have to say that if I didnt know your work better, the stream of (Im guessing dead) soldiers appears to be a celebration of their lives and their choice to support the politics of war. I dont think you meant that? I think its a moving and relevant message, when one understands what you are trying to do, I feel that it may be misinterpreted however, and as Gareth pointed out, depictions of the casualties of war, must be predominately made up of those innocents that are being slaughtered needlessly by our governments, and not those "heros" (ironic exclamation points) who chose this killing career path. Howabout a new video with faces from the "other side" Same song- same take even... identical in every way, apart from the faces? Now THAT would be an interesting couple of videos, that would surly go viral? Keep up the videos Fro my bro.. you are a talented guy Mark On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 6:56 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > Hi there Fro, > I kept waiting for an afghani child's face to pop up there somewhere or > maybe a rich oil baron. I found politically, it towed the official western > line. I guess you're anti war but don't forget the innocent people whose > lives have been ended or ruined by soldiers. > Slick arrangement though. > > Peace > > Gareth > > ------------------------------ > From: parispro00@hotmail.com > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: New Video - "Cigarettes & Sidewalks" by The Wandering Madman > Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 15:17:26 -0500 > > Long time no video. Hope everyone is doing well. Enjoy your weekend and > if you think this video should be heard, please help me by sharing it with > your friends & family. > > > www.youtube.com/TheWanderingMadman > > or > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzRNFRBTW_w > > > Enjoy. > > > The Wandering Madman > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba6e8cd401c60e04a6fd508b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Fro
=A0love your set-up there, great sound too - I have to say that = if I didnt know your work better, the stream of (Im guessing dead)=A0 soldi= ers appears to be a celebration of their lives and their choice to support = the politics of war. I dont think you meant that?
I think its a moving and relevant message, when one understands what you ar= e trying to do, I feel that it may be misinterpreted however, and as Gareth= pointed out, depictions of the casualties of war, must be predominately ma= de up of those innocents that are being slaughtered needlessly by our gover= nments, and not those "heros" (ironic exclamation points) who cho= se this killing career path.

Howabout a new video with faces from the "other side" Same so= ng- same take even... identical in every way, apart from the faces? Now THA= T would be an interesting couple of videos, that would surly go viral?

Keep up the videos Fro my bro..

you are a talented guy

Ma= rk


On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 6:56 AM, Ga= reth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk> wrote:
Hi there Fro,
I kept waiting for an afghani child's face to pop up t= here somewhere or maybe a rich oil baron. I found politically, it towed the= official western line. I guess you're anti war but don't forget th= e innocent people whose lives have been ended or ruined by soldiers.
Slick arrangement though.

Peace

Gareth

From: = parispro00@hotm= ail.com
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: New Video - "Cigarettes & Sidewalks" by The Wanderin= g Madman
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 15:17:26 -0500

Long time no video. Hope everyone is doing well. Enjoy your weekend an= d if you think this video should be heard, please help me by sharing it wit= h your friends & family.



or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DpzRNFRBT= W_w





--
Mark Fra= ncombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--90e6ba6e8cd401c60e04a6fd508b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 1 12:00:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AED618348B; Fri, 1 Jul 2011 12:00:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=F5UMR37Hw/Zc8mavGcrtLWhc1q+GQDAQu2o1ktzRuOk=; b=TFRWZzKjbpY9EYSssmOLVeYu3UhCeA6xDMq3x5QbpWjkY1z5alVxzdS+LTnKLzoHk3 /MkrAUx98TuIISe+GC7lzQWaiufLRWlkRWN1kKIx1U+JIK0CPCdSg85QqGTUDw1A87EY peoA07tTsadrPMxcNce1CqPe7EXZLbaz01Kcs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 14:00:35 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Reviewing Faderfox LV3 mini hand MIDI mixer/controler From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110725 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 12:00:38 +0000 (UTC) Hi guys, I'm just into replacing my five year old generation one MIDI mixer with the new third generation mixer from German Faderfox, The LV3, and as I just got my brain wrapped around this little cutie I thought I could write up here for those that might be interested. http://www.faderfox.de/ Small, light but sturdy and all powered by USB this is a dream controller - in some aspects. It only sends CC#, the continuous data that perfectly matches controlling seamlessly sweeping parameters. 4 rotary pots with a light led, one rotary pot with no led, 8 faders, 2 X/Y joysticks and three rows of 8 buttons each plus five more buttons. That's what you see, but there is more on the inside because "track selection" buttons change the output of the 4 upper rotary pots to send four different CC#s for each track. There are 3 effect buttons that also offer unique CC#s for the four upper rotary knobs, so you reach a lot with quite few buttons thanks to this smart design. The two push buttons down by the joysticks have green leds to indicate on/off status. But the 8 vertical faders never change their output, which makes them perfect for parameters like "track level" that you may want to always have handy no matter what else you are fiddling with for the moment. Same goes for the two joysticks, but there is a two second process to call up one of five optional CC# setups for the two joysticks (and a digital number display that tells you what preset is loaded for the joysticks). All five rotary pots also send a certain CC# value when pushed. The four top row rotary pots send value 127 when pushed the first time and value 0 when pushed a second time. Between these pushes you may hit one of the eight track selection buttons to use the very same rotary knob to send another CC#, for a completely different task, but when you get back again by pushing the original track selection button this rotary knob's led goes red to indicate that it sent the value 127 and thus will follow up with the value 0 if pushed now. Genius design, isn't it! Have read this you might understand that pushing the four top row rotary buttons is perfect for setting parameters into some kind of mode that is "on" or "off". Or if using a host like Mainstage, that offers scaling of incoming MIDI control, you may define two exact values for the targeted software parameter to toggle between (not having to stick with the "0" and "127" that the LV3 is actually sending). On thing that is different compared to the two earlier versions of the LV is that now you don't get any MIDI Notes sent out. I found that some of the buttons that send out only the CC# value 127 (not alternating between 0 and 127) actually can trigger some functions and scripts in Mobius. Not all though and I suspect this is a murky Mobius area that might get improved. As said, Mainstage can handle any CC# value in the traditional "MIDI note style" manner to target whatever on/off function there might be in the software. The LV3 has also dropped the option to push a button and reassign the eight vertical faders to send over eight other CC# channels (like controlling track 1-8 and push a button to control track 9-16 by the same physical faders). I don't miss this because having reassignable faders used to confuse me and I never used that feature in the LV1. If using Ableton Live there is a template you can load into Live and achieve native support for the LV3. Then the LV3 also doubles up as a tool for navigating around Lives spreadsheet-like mixer view screen. The four top row rotary knobs can be programmed to for absolute mode or incremental, and some more options, but I run the LV3 in its default setup and perform data scaling in Mainstage when needed. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 1 12:08:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 16B3C18347A; Fri, 1 Jul 2011 12:08:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E0DB8C7.7090801@biink.com> Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2011 08:08:39 -0400 From: David Beardsley Reply-To: db@biink.com Organization: Biink & SSI User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Thomas CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: some video References: <4E0C93C7.3050305@biink.com> <896F8F03-BE49-48EE-8FB7-35411D4D14C7@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <896F8F03-BE49-48EE-8FB7-35411D4D14C7@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110726 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 12:08:23 +0000 (UTC) On 6/30/2011 9:45 PM, Daniel Thomas wrote: >> listen to all three parts, it changes. > Listen to it three times, and it changes 9 times more. > > i think this gave me a buzz! ha! there's an extremely slow development to this piece. towards the end, I started adding many notes to the mix instead of only notes close to the octave. -- * David Beardsley * http://biink.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 1 13:46:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2C0C183477; Fri, 1 Jul 2011 13:46:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E0DCFC3.7030705@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2011 09:46:43 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #743 for June 30, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <0jzJRC.A.XPC.L_cDOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110727 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 13:46:51 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/110630.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #743 June 30, 2011. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Radio Massacre International. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Rain Falls in a Different Way" on Northern Echo. http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#jun On this show, I played music by Mark Jenkins who will appear at the Soundscapes Concert Series. Visit the events page for details. http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/events.html This program was dedicated to the very fond memory of "Boombox" Dave Horrod. He was a good friend to me and a bright light of the people who attended Ricochet Gatherings. I will miss him. PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Mark Jenkins The Howling Heart This Island Earth (AMP) of Evil Mark Jenkins The Watchmen of This Island Earth (AMP) Heaven Papercutz Is Fading Do Outro Lado Do Esphelho (Audiobulb) VA [Callisto] The Darkness of A Little More Night Music (AD Night Music) Takashi Suzuki Resonance in Blue 3 Resonance (none) Gert Emmens Part 19 The Nearest Far Away Place Volume 3 (Groove) Radio Massacre Rain Falls In a Rain Falls in a Different Way International Different Way (Northern Echo) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Radio Massacre Pluto Rain Falls in a Different Way International (Northern Echo) Radio Massacre Silicon Psychosis Rain Falls in a Different Way International (Northern Echo) Radio Massacre The Emissary Rain Falls in a Different Way International (Northern Echo) Radio Massacre M.F. in the Sky Rain Falls in a Different Way International (Northern Echo) Radio Massacre Chainless & Beauty Rain Falls in a Different Way International Black (Northern Echo) Radio Massacre Yeager Rain Falls in a Different Way International (Northern Echo) Radio Massacre Everywhere's Rain Falls in a Different Way International Somewhere * (Northern Echo) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on Jürgen Haible. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Of Eagles and Prophets" which is a self-released title. http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#jul Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 1 16:40:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 49C84183457; Fri, 1 Jul 2011 16:40:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <8CE058E74C3A8E1-15D8-6E3E@webmail-m173.sysops.aol.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: YO YO YO EH?.....fest??????????? Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2011 12:40:30 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 68.162.179.40 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: michael klobuchar X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CE0624B9877005_1F10_CABA6_webmail-m093.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33912-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CE0624B925D77C-1F10-53104@webmail-m093.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110728 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 16:40:36 +0000 (UTC) ----------MB_8CE0624B9877005_1F10_CABA6_webmail-m093.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" something else i just thought of.....the friday before these 2 possible da= tes, are FIRST FRIDAY and there will be the ART CRAWLS, which are very well attended.....we could have a= show at the CHILDREN'S ART GALLERY the nite before.....also, if you have time to spare you could hang at HOUS= E KLOBUCHAR for as long as you like or till the soup runs out, think of it as a quasi-vacation.....i am still waiting= to hear back from the promoters if i indeed can have the entire day, so stay tuned!.....the "J" boys jim and jeff are cornsidering, anyone else= ? =20 ----------MB_8CE0624B9877005_1F10_CABA6_webmail-m093.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" som= ething else i just thought of.....the friday before these 2 possible dates= , are FIRST FRIDAY and there

will be the ART CRAWLS, which are very well attended.....we could hav= e a show at the CHILDREN'S ART GALLERY

the nite before.....also, if you have time to spare you could hang at= HOUSE KLOBUCHAR for as long as you like or till

the soup runs out, think of it as a quasi-vacation.....i am still wai= ting to hear back from the promoters if i indeed can have the entire day,<= /div>

so stay tuned!.....the "J" boys jim and jeff are cornsidering, anyone= else?





 ----------MB_8CE0624B9877005_1F10_CABA6_webmail-m093.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 1 18:17:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA63D183474; Fri, 1 Jul 2011 18:17:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Phil Clevenger Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Teasing Time - Pt.2 Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 11:17:12 -0700 Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110729 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 18:17:37 +0000 (UTC) OK between Mark Hamburg and Bill Walker I've found some effective ways = to 'tease time' out of loops of unknown length. My original question came from a desire to figure out how to sneakily = subdivide a long, repeating ambient loop from my non-MIDI Pigtronix = Echolution. Had hoped there was some Zen mathematics that could be = brought to bear... ;) These solutions, however, require MIDI and a looper, in this case an = LP-1. And that's fine with me. So I have discovered what is doubtless to you more experienced loopers = would call 'The Oldest Trick In The Book' :D - Start with an running empty loop, with MIDI clock generated by the = looper, sending out to whatever, in this case the SL-20 Slicer (Thanks = Mark). - With a volume pedal, sneak in a bit of the slicer's effect send here = and there - and the time will gently emerge :) and / or: - Using Q-replace on the LP-1, in this case set for 16, drop some beeps = and boops in here and there, and again, time will emerge (Thanks Bill). Old news to the Council of Elders, but great fun for me ! Best, Phil :)= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 1 18:29:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C68FE183465; Fri, 1 Jul 2011 18:29:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7IgaWYtOMCkJ/VJya47gQH6dxYmfltf2mW4tyJP+qTQ=; b=r17ODWI77hQ3cCJsyDOCYERDdlx3f7ZAKvtYuBeQVgfZoX1H9oaoesPFkdtVUiGpbV U68ZDEFeYH84VmP3pnCQV5iXphgeiP8WUChWFFy6Qjx6CQmaiNoaGswB7VlySneWLWFI Lt+eaXIv7R9BTC4bOy+fhl9gJVrPmjO+ZCtlc= Message-ID: <4E0E11ED.90700@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2011 20:29:01 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Teasing Time - Pt.2 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110730 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 18:29:06 +0000 (UTC) Phil Clevenger schrieb: > - Using Q-replace on the LP-1, in this case set for 16, drop some beeps and boops in here and there, and again, time will emerge (Thanks Bill). > > Old news to the Council of Elders, but great fun for me There's even older tricks from the loop, which don't require MIDI or a proper looper - however, some kind of "sus" operation is very helpful (if your delay pedal doesn't support that, which is usually the case, you can use a properly wired footswitch with additional jack for that anti-killswitch effect; I think they're even sold under some name). In my experience (and this is just the oddness of the human brain), if you drop in short beeps and boops in any timing to an existing loop, you will always find that it ends up making up some kind of groove (however odd or untight). Take this example: http://moinlabs.bandcamp.com/track/sequencing-bad-mojo Starting at about 3:20, I add short beeps and boops on top of an existing loop in an entirely unquantized fashion. It seems to form a groove - which I hadn't in mind when I did this, it was more of some random button presses. The faux virtuoso arpeggi in this one http://moinlabs.bandcamp.com/track/leather-allergy were done the same way. Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 1 18:32:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6079C183473; Fri, 1 Jul 2011 18:32:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 491 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 01 Jul 2011 18:32:01 UTC Message-ID: <4218C3990A714D75B4AA9A9A7369BB6A@ccs.local> From: "Brian Carabee" To: References: Subject: Re: New Video - "Cigarettes & Sidewalks" by The Wandering Madman Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 14:23:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110731 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 18:32:02 +0000 (UTC) The man meant what he meant. You mean he doesn't have the RIGHT to present a work of art that differs from your guys' perspectives? Has he not the RIGHT to present a work of art without his peers saying, "I'm sure you didn't meant **that***? You guys have a lot of "how abouts". Well how about you "allow" an artist his expression, even if his perspective or opinion differs from yours? Or is there a new oppressive power looming in the Politically Correct universe? One that would crush free expression of those who's views differ? Brian ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Re: New Video - "Cigarettes & Sidewalks" by The Wandering Madman Hey Fro love your set-up there, great sound too - I have to say that if I didnt know your work better, the stream of (Im guessing dead) soldiers appears to be a celebration of their lives and their choice to support the politics of war. I dont think you meant that? I think its a moving and relevant message, when one understands what you are trying to do, I feel that it may be misinterpreted however, and as Gareth pointed out, depictions of the casualties of war, must be predominately made up of those innocents that are being slaughtered needlessly by our governments, and not those "heros" (ironic exclamation points) who chose this killing career path. Howabout a new video with faces from the "other side" Same song- same take even... identical in every way, apart from the faces? Now THAT would be an interesting couple of videos, that would surly go viral? Keep up the videos Fro my bro.. you are a talented guy Mark On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 6:56 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: Hi there Fro, I kept waiting for an afghani child's face to pop up there somewhere or maybe a rich oil baron. I found politically, it towed the official western line. I guess you're anti war but don't forget the innocent people whose lives have been ended or ruined by soldiers. Slick arrangement though. Peace Gareth From: parispro00@hotmail.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: New Video - "Cigarettes & Sidewalks" by The Wandering Madman Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 15:17:26 -0500 Long time no video. Hope everyone is doing well. Enjoy your weekend and if you think this video should be heard, please help me by sharing it with your friends & family. www.youtube.com/TheWanderingMadman or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzRNFRBTW_w Enjoy. The Wandering Madman -- Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 1 18:43:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C6CF183473; Fri, 1 Jul 2011 18:43:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-07-01_08:2011-07-01,2011-07-01,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=4 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1107010138 Subject: Re: New Video - "Cigarettes & Sidewalks" by The Wandering Madman From: Daniel Thomas X-Priority: 3 In-reply-to: <4218C3990A714D75B4AA9A9A7369BB6A@ccs.local> Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2011 11:43:38 -0700 Message-id: References: <4218C3990A714D75B4AA9A9A7369BB6A@ccs.local> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <6P1e5C.A.c6F.dVhDOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110732 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 18:43:41 +0000 (UTC) I think I agree with you, Brian. Art need not be explained by the artist to serve its purpose. And the preferred political commentary of one may be opposed to the preferred commentary of another. Lets not hem each other in with our politics. Let art be art. Now, everyone go be art. Daniel On Jul 1, 2011, at 11:23 AM, Brian Carabee wrote: > The man meant what he meant. > > You mean he doesn't have the RIGHT to present a work of art that differs from your guys' perspectives? > > Has he not the RIGHT to present a work of art without his peers saying, "I'm sure you didn't meant **that***? > > You guys have a lot of "how abouts". Well how about you "allow" an artist his expression, even if his perspective or opinion differs from yours? > > Or is there a new oppressive power looming in the Politically Correct universe? One that would crush free expression of those who's views differ? > > Brian > > > ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Re: New Video - "Cigarettes & Sidewalks" by The Wandering Madman > > > Hey Fro > love your set-up there, great sound too - I have to say that if I didnt know your work better, the stream of (Im guessing dead) soldiers appears to be a celebration of their lives and their choice to support the politics of war. I dont think you meant that? > I think its a moving and relevant message, when one understands what you are trying to do, I feel that it may be misinterpreted however, and as Gareth pointed out, depictions of the casualties of war, must be predominately made up of those innocents that are being slaughtered needlessly by our governments, and not those "heros" (ironic exclamation points) who chose this killing career path. > > Howabout a new video with faces from the "other side" Same song- same take even... identical in every way, apart from the faces? Now THAT would be an interesting couple of videos, that would surly go viral? > > Keep up the videos Fro my bro.. > > you are a talented guy > > Mark > > > > On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 6:56 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > > Hi there Fro, > I kept waiting for an afghani child's face to pop up there somewhere or maybe a rich oil baron. I found politically, it towed the official western line. I guess you're anti war but don't forget the innocent people whose lives have been ended or ruined by soldiers. > Slick arrangement though. > > Peace > > Gareth > > > > > From: parispro00@hotmail.com > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: New Video - "Cigarettes & Sidewalks" by The Wandering Madman > Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 15:17:26 -0500 > > > Long time no video. Hope everyone is doing well. Enjoy your weekend and if you think this video should be heard, please help me by sharing it with your friends & family. > > > > > www.youtube.com/TheWanderingMadman > > > or > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzRNFRBTW_w > > > > > Enjoy. > > > The Wandering Madman > > > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 1 18:44:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28233183475; Fri, 1 Jul 2011 18:44:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 492 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 01 Jul 2011 18:44:17 UTC Message-ID: <35ED2D11DC024043B59F261B3B531DDA@ccs.local> From: "Brian Carabee" To: References: Subject: Re: New Video - "Cigarettes & Sidewalks" by The Wandering Madman Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 14:35:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0117_01CC37FC.2EEC34E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110733 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 18:44:18 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0117_01CC37FC.2EEC34E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My point is that there is something so utterly offensive about telling a = fellow artist that he should re-do his art in order to reflect one's own = political beliefs and perspectives. It would be entirely appropriate to vocalize and register your = disagreement, but to suggest to the artist that he should CHANGE his art = to make you feel better and to satisfy your own idea of "fairness" is = outrageous. It would also be appropriate for you to decide to create art with an = opposing message as a rebuttal. But to tell him he should change his = piece to reflect your own views? Outrageous!! Does anyone else here see = that massive danger with this (with your own RIGHT to express your view = through your art) or should I spell it out? Brian ----- Original Message -----=20 Hey Fro love your set-up there, great sound too - I have to say that if I = didnt know your work better, the stream of (Im guessing dead) soldiers = appears to be a celebration of their lives and their choice to support = the politics of war. I dont think you meant that? I think its a moving and relevant message, when one understands what = you are trying to do, I feel that it may be misinterpreted however, and = as Gareth pointed out, depictions of the casualties of war, must be = predominately made up of those innocents that are being slaughtered = needlessly by our governments, and not those "heros" (ironic exclamation = points) who chose this killing career path. Howabout a new video with faces from the "other side" Same song- same = take even... identical in every way, apart from the faces? Now THAT = would be an interesting couple of videos, that would surly go viral? Keep up the videos Fro my bro.. you are a talented guy Mark ------=_NextPart_000_0117_01CC37FC.2EEC34E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My point is that there is something so = utterly=20 offensive about telling a fellow artist that he should re-do his art in = order to=20 reflect one's own political beliefs and perspectives.
 
It would be entirely appropriate to = vocalize and=20 register your disagreement, but to suggest to the artist that he should = CHANGE=20 his art to make you feel better and to satisfy your own idea of = "fairness" is=20 outrageous.
 
It would also be appropriate for you to = decide to=20 create art with an opposing message as a rebuttal. But to tell him he = should=20 change his piece to reflect your own views? Outrageous!! Does anyone = else here=20 see that massive danger with this (with your own RIGHT to express your = view=20 through your art) or should I spell it out?
 
Brian
 
 
----- Original Message -----

Hey = Fro
 love your=20 set-up there, great sound too - I have to say that if I didnt know = your work=20 better, the stream of (Im guessing dead)  soldiers appears to be = a=20 celebration of their lives and their choice to support the politics of = war. I=20 dont think you meant that?
I think its a moving and relevant = message, when=20 one understands what you are trying to do, I feel that it may be=20 misinterpreted however, and as Gareth pointed out, depictions of the=20 casualties of war, must be predominately made up of those innocents = that are=20 being slaughtered needlessly by our governments, and not those "heros" = (ironic=20 exclamation points) who chose this killing career = path.

Howabout a new=20 video with faces from the "other side" Same song- same take even... = identical=20 in every way, apart from the faces? Now THAT would be an interesting = couple of=20 videos, that would surly go viral?

Keep up the videos Fro my=20 bro..

you are a talented = guy

Mark ------=_NextPart_000_0117_01CC37FC.2EEC34E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 1 18:46:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36393183475; Fri, 1 Jul 2011 18:46:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=AzFvRJS0anjFf40cJaE2PeF4i2ksyOHyzQiL4pTuMAY=; b=L0a6um/tUFcm0RbSYyRu/0E7ysnC/jmoL7vK/GqXSpaD2azaik4KbLsKDA0zeZ783J GB+4VoPdGrxgOsDl6QDZtCAjEP3gtWSDpPOcuc/oHzQHKGcv2sKbQlQZlrDyFxkSjUqZ OKevJK6JpRoLcwHeJqZz5V9IrIbfz9gPfg4EI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CE0624B925D77C-1F10-53104@webmail-m093.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CE058E74C3A8E1-15D8-6E3E@webmail-m173.sysops.aol.com> <8CE0624B925D77C-1F10-53104@webmail-m093.sysops.aol.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 11:46:34 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: YO YO YO EH?.....fest??????????? From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec52c6a8fd82ff804a7066f2f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110734 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 18:46:35 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec52c6a8fd82ff804a7066f2f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Soooo close! Kristin Miltner and I will be in the midwest the following week, and it's possible we may have a chance to make it to Pittsburgh. (Waiting to see where dates are on latest round of bookings.) -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 9:40 AM, michael klobuchar wrote: > something else i just thought of.....the friday before these 2 possible > dates, are FIRST FRIDAY and there > > will be the ART CRAWLS, which are very well attended.....we could have a > show at the CHILDREN'S ART GALLERY > > the nite before.....also, if you have time to spare you could hang at > HOUSE KLOBUCHAR for as long as you like or till > > the soup runs out, think of it as a quasi-vacation.....i am still waiting > to hear back from the promoters if i indeed can have the entire day, > > so stay tuned!.....the "J" boys jim and jeff are cornsidering, anyone > else? > > > > > > --bcaec52c6a8fd82ff804a7066f2f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Soooo close! Kristin Miltner and I will be in the midwest the following wee= k, and it's possible we may have a chance to make it to Pittsburgh. (Wa= iting to see where dates are on latest round of bookings.)

--
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusic.com
Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.= com
Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt


On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 9:40 AM, michael klobuchar <nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:
something else i just= thought of.....the friday before these 2 possible dates, are FIRST FRIDAY = and there

will be the ART CRAWLS, which are very well attended.....we could have= a show at the CHILDREN'S ART GALLERY

the nite before.....also, if you have time to spare you could hang at = HOUSE KLOBUCHAR for as long as you like or till

the soup runs out, think of it as a quasi-vacation.....i am still wait= ing to hear back from the promoters if i indeed can have the entire day,

so stay tuned!.....the "J" boys jim and jeff are cornsiderin= g, anyone else?





=20




--bcaec52c6a8fd82ff804a7066f2f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 1 18:53:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6533E183474; Fri, 1 Jul 2011 18:53:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=C8oH0eSvH+Jz5W0igJKLvI79MVyeHTVRHJKFSWnmQE4=; b=aGjZ26OjjWhR2LU6Rxbd3sMNEHne37BDIeg4ADL5yDG+gkx8cYvmt4g0NHMA4SGRqQ ZD4/5hW++6xD6DqQDLshGn9s5EfHxSVjzSTot9zbR6cx4E2tDfne2rQ3mf0BN/fQrkU1 9h15Aytdv5phJJ8tdLnaVX1g57K+cFfTIoDQk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <35ED2D11DC024043B59F261B3B531DDA@ccs.local> References: <35ED2D11DC024043B59F261B3B531DDA@ccs.local> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 11:53:23 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Video - "Cigarettes & Sidewalks" by The Wandering Madman From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110735 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 18:53:24 +0000 (UTC) I believe those suggestions were offered as critiques based on prior experience with Fro's work (and worldview as expressed in his art). I don't think they were demanding any changes, just pointing out that the impression of 'where he's coming from' in the video was different than they had previously experienced in his other posts. Why jump to the worst possible conclusion first? Of course I could be completely wrong but I give folks the benefit of the doubt first. Respectfully, Kevin On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Brian Carabee wrote= : > My point is that there is something so utterly offensive about telling a > fellow artist that he should re-do his art in order to reflect one's own > political beliefs and perspectives. > > It would be entirely appropriate to vocalize and register your disagreeme= nt, > but to suggest to the artist that he should CHANGE his art to make you fe= el > better and to satisfy your own idea of "fairness" is outrageous. > > It would also be appropriate for you to decide to create art with an > opposing message as a rebuttal. But to tell him he should change his piec= e > to reflect your own views? Outrageous!! Does anyone else here see that > massive danger with this (with your own RIGHT to express your view throug= h > your art)=A0or should I spell it out? > > Brian > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Hey Fro > =A0love your set-up there, great sound too - I have to say that if I didn= t > know your work better, the stream of (Im guessing dead)=A0 soldiers appea= rs to > be a celebration of their lives and their choice to support the politics = of > war. I dont think you meant that? > I think its a moving and relevant message, when one understands what you = are > trying to do, I feel that it may be misinterpreted however, and as Gareth > pointed out, depictions of the casualties of war, must be predominately m= ade > up of those innocents that are being slaughtered needlessly by our > governments, and not those "heros" (ironic exclamation points) who chose > this killing career path. > > Howabout a new video with faces from the "other side" Same song- same tak= e > even... identical in every way, apart from the faces? Now THAT would be a= n > interesting couple of videos, that would surly go viral? > > Keep up the videos Fro my bro.. > > you are a talented guy > > Mark --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 1 18:54:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9851F183478; Fri, 1 Jul 2011 18:54:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=jbrg+ETjFm7Haahs8Z95kJ09DNChrS7/6DtEbUqhCYk=; b=tA8UATGrx8+eR44u9n+NYR1JUBhKJ5SZG1VbHxMgnQvpPpCUuJU16ga8ixNT6ZcF/Y G5Yw7ptKGiEIRRcZNspjo+i77mvQPW5vn4lnlKWtELD35gD0TtVr1THgI1EycIcQ5JrG ZrKes3sgQfuQXR1UzIaDI3QdMlFtoCbx2T1t4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4218C3990A714D75B4AA9A9A7369BB6A@ccs.local> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 14:54:58 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Video - "Cigarettes & Sidewalks" by The Wandering Madman From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f3166d8c80d04a7068df8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110736 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 18:54:59 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307f3166d8c80d04a7068df8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Daniel and Brian, thank you for posting your comments. I agree also. Fro doesn't need defending by me but I admire him greatly. He has a big heart and a major talent! He is playing live streaming from his truck (now in Colorado) Sunday 8 PM central btw! A must see experience IMO :) http://www.thewanderingmadman.com/ peace, jeff On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Daniel Thomas wrote: > I think I agree with you, Brian. > > Art need not be explained by the artist to serve its purpose. And the > preferred political commentary of one may be opposed to the preferred > commentary of another. Lets not hem each other in with our politics. Let > art be art. > > Now, everyone go be art. > > Daniel > On Jul 1, 2011, at 11:23 AM, Brian Carabee wrote: > > > The man meant what he meant. > > > > You mean he doesn't have the RIGHT to present a work of art that differs > from your guys' perspectives? > > > > Has he not the RIGHT to present a work of art without his peers saying, > "I'm sure you didn't meant **that***? > > > > You guys have a lot of "how abouts". Well how about you "allow" an artist > his expression, even if his perspective or opinion differs from yours? > > > > Or is there a new oppressive power looming in the Politically Correct > universe? One that would crush free expression of those who's views differ? > > > > Brian > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Re: New Video - "Cigarettes & > Sidewalks" by The Wandering Madman > > > > > > Hey Fro > > love your set-up there, great sound too - I have to say that if I didnt > know your work better, the stream of (Im guessing dead) soldiers appears to > be a celebration of their lives and their choice to support the politics of > war. I dont think you meant that? > > I think its a moving and relevant message, when one understands what you > are trying to do, I feel that it may be misinterpreted however, and as > Gareth pointed out, depictions of the casualties of war, must be > predominately made up of those innocents that are being slaughtered > needlessly by our governments, and not those "heros" (ironic exclamation > points) who chose this killing career path. > > > > Howabout a new video with faces from the "other side" Same song- same > take even... identical in every way, apart from the faces? Now THAT would be > an interesting couple of videos, that would surly go viral? > > > > Keep up the videos Fro my bro.. > > > > you are a talented guy > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 6:56 AM, Gareth Whittock < > buddhamachine@live.co.uk> wrote: > > > > Hi there Fro, > > I kept waiting for an afghani child's face to pop up there somewhere or > maybe a rich oil baron. I found politically, it towed the official western > line. I guess you're anti war but don't forget the innocent people whose > lives have been ended or ruined by soldiers. > > Slick arrangement though. > > > > Peace > > > > Gareth > > > > > > > > > > From: parispro00@hotmail.com > > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: New Video - "Cigarettes & Sidewalks" by The Wandering Madman > > Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 15:17:26 -0500 > > > > > > Long time no video. Hope everyone is doing well. Enjoy your weekend and > if you think this video should be heard, please help me by sharing it with > your friends & family. > > > > > > > > > > www.youtube.com/TheWanderingMadman > > > > > > or > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzRNFRBTW_w > > > > > > > > > > Enjoy. > > > > > > The Wandering Madman > > > > > > > > -- > > Mark Francombe > > www.markfrancombe.com > > www.ordoabkhao.com > > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > > http://www.looop.no > > twitter @markfrancombe > > --20cf307f3166d8c80d04a7068df8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Daniel and Brian, thank you for posting your comments. I agree also. Fro do= esn't need defending by me but I admire him greatly. He has a big heart= and a major talent! He is playing live streaming from his truck (now in Co= lorado) Sunday 8 PM central btw! A must see experience IMO :) http://www.thewanderingmadman.com/
peace,

jeff

On Fri, Jul 1, 201= 1 at 2:43 PM, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com> wrote:
I think I agree with you, Brian.

Art need not be explained by the artist to serve its purpose. =A0 And the p= referred political commentary of one may be opposed to the preferred commen= tary of another. =A0Lets not hem each other in with our politics. =A0Let ar= t be art.

Now, everyone go be art.

Daniel
On Jul 1, 2011, at 11:23 AM, Brian Carabee wrote:

> The man meant what he meant.
>
> You mean he doesn't have the RIGHT to present a work of art that d= iffers from your guys' perspectives?
>
> Has he not the RIGHT to present a work of art without his peers saying= , "I'm sure you didn't meant **that***?
>
> You guys have a lot of "how abouts". Well how about you &quo= t;allow" an artist his expression, even if his perspective or opinion = differs from yours?
>
> Or is there a new oppressive power looming in the Politically Correct = universe? One that would crush free expression of those who's views dif= fer?
>
> Brian
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Re: New Video - "Cigarettes= & Sidewalks" by The Wandering Madman
>
>
> Hey Fro
> love your set-up there, great sound too - I have to say that if I didn= t know your work better, the stream of (Im guessing dead) =A0soldiers appea= rs to be a celebration of their lives and their choice to support the polit= ics of war. I dont think you meant that?
> I think its a moving and relevant message, when one understands what y= ou are trying to do, I feel that it may be misinterpreted however, and as G= areth pointed out, depictions of the casualties of war, must be predominate= ly made up of those innocents that are being slaughtered needlessly by our = governments, and not those "heros" (ironic exclamation points) wh= o chose this killing career path.
>
> Howabout a new video with faces from the "other side" Same s= ong- same take even... identical in every way, apart from the faces? Now TH= AT would be an interesting couple of videos, that would surly go viral?
>
> Keep up the videos Fro my bro..
>
> you are a talented guy
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 6:56 AM, Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi there Fro,
> I kept waiting for an afghani child's face to pop up there somewhe= re or maybe a rich oil baron. I found politically, it towed the official we= stern line. I guess you're anti war but don't forget the innocent p= eople whose lives have been ended or ruined by soldiers.
> Slick arrangement though.
>
> Peace
>
> Gareth
>
>
>
>
> From: parispro00@hotmail.com=
> To: loopers-del= ight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: New Video - "Cigarettes & Sidewalks" by The Wan= dering Madman
> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 15:17:26 -0500
>
>
> Long time no video. Hope everyone is doing well. Enjoy your weekend an= d if you think this video should be heard, please help me by sharing it wit= h your friends & family.
>
>
>
>
> www.youtube.com/TheWanderingMadman
>
>
> or
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DpzRNFRBTW_w
>
>
>
>
> Enjoy.
>
>
> The Wandering Madman
>
>
>
> --
> Mark Francombe
> www.markfra= ncombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao= .com
> http://vimeo= .com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no<= /a>
> twitter @markfrancombe


--20cf307f3166d8c80d04a7068df8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 1 18:58:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6AE0518347A; Fri, 1 Jul 2011 18:58:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0mBW6qTKxdeaT79H7ZFdhAMhz+PB+hKBFSuA2I8K5Lk=; b=ktadqXDV083aJxGy9a89Q1G0VSmhXWgbqd1xEOO+aI2mbwGTX/m5MW4gLIW36V5K9t ZRC7dyW9TulBz6q+sXCpv2UTIqOIYGVFfw5I4MiZBfLhvJe8rAaTNdj31xq23Lp8CsU2 jSqDywJv+75iKArBiCpMleb1xWJLap3wtOD6s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 11:58:27 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: New Eno Streaming at Wired From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110737 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 18:58:28 +0000 (UTC) http://www.wired.com/underwire/2011/07/brian-eno-drums-between-the-bells/ In case you'd like a listen. Kevin --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 1 19:44:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A04EA18348A; Fri, 1 Jul 2011 19:44:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A12D84DC20F4D54BA677B300584CE52@ccs.local> From: "Brian Carabee" To: References: <35ED2D11DC024043B59F261B3B531DDA@ccs.local> Subject: Re: New Video - "Cigarettes & Sidewalks" by The Wandering Madman Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 15:44:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110738 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 19:44:43 +0000 (UTC) Kevin, Read those posts. Fro was asked to change it. That's what I have a problem with. I wasn't jumping to a conclusion but rather I felt extremely offended that it was suggested to a man that he should re-do it because "he couldn't possibly have meant that". That offends me to no end, and it should offend any of us. It is very upsetting to know that if I submit a piece of music for my peers here on Looper's Delight, I will be scolded and "corrected" if my expressed view differs from some other's. That should never be the spirit of an artistic community. There are many different people here with many different perspectives on INCREDIBLY COMPLEX issues and we should never shame someone for expressing views that differ from ours. Factually and respectfully voicing opposition to a view is perfectly fair. But the suggestions that he should re-do his art because some may perceive a certain world-view or opinion is simply an outrage. He has every right to sing and express his particular perspective. That is what artistic freedom is all about, in my opinion. The removal of that freedom is the beginning of the end. Dictatorships can consist of one person or they can consist of general consensus of opinion, or by the most vocal group. All three dictatorial entities are reprehensible and fraught with danger. Ok, I've said my piece. I don't want to beat it to death but I want you to be fully aware of why I am offended that we seem to need to conform to a certain political view or be gently corrected here. There is real danger concealed behind those polite, friendly corrections and requests to change an artistic expression. Brian ----- Original Message ----- I believe those suggestions were offered as critiques based on prior experience with Fro's work (and worldview as expressed in his art). I don't think they were demanding any changes, just pointing out that the impression of 'where he's coming from' in the video was different than they had previously experienced in his other posts. Why jump to the worst possible conclusion first? Of course I could be completely wrong but I give folks the benefit of the doubt first. Respectfully, Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 1 19:56:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55BA9183491; Fri, 1 Jul 2011 19:56:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E0E2663.4060505@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2011 15:56:19 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Top 20 Report for June, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110739 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 19:56:27 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/top20-06jun.html WDIY 88.1 FM "Galactic Travels" Top 20 for June, 2011. Shows #739 to #743; 2-June-2011 to 30-June-2011 Reported in non-ranked, alphanumeric order. The Special Focus for June was Radio Massacre International. http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#jun ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL ======================================================================== A Dancing Beggar - Follow the Dark as if It Were Light - Audiobulb Alpha Wave Movement - Soniq Variants - Harmonic Resonance Recordings Erik Wollo and Bernhard Wostheinrich - Arcadia Borealis - DiN Gert Emmens - The Nearest Far Away Place Volume 3 - Groove Monty Adkins - Fragile.Flicker.Fragment - Audiobulb Ozone Player and Matt Howarth - Long Range Influence - Visual Power Papercutz - Do Outro Lado Do Esphelho - Audiobulb Radio Massacre International - Antisocial - Northern Echo Radio Massacre International - Rain Falls in Grey - Cuneiform Radio Massacre International - Rain Falls in a Different Way - Northern Echo Radio Massacre International - Fast Forward - Northern Echo Radio Massacre International - Philadelphia Air-shot - Northern Echo Remy - i-Dentity - Deserted Island Saul Stokes - Sleek Nucleus - Stokesmusic Schonwalder and Rothe - Filter-Kaffee 101 - SynGate Sensitive Chaos - Seeker After Patterns - Subsequent Steve Roach - Live at SoundQuest Fest - Timeroom Editions Steve Roach and Erik Wollo - The Road Eternal - Projekt Takashi Suzuki - Resonance - none Various Artists - Autistici Reworked: Resonating Wires - Audiobulb Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 1 20:32:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B61B1183474; Fri, 1 Jul 2011 20:32:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=yOXDxCa+RVKu8M77XGao9xmW7DS3lLASl1bfDytzG3M=; b=WxqAuh2dMRK4u3B1inIEn/qokWcj3609cBAurQnM6T/c6swBCo1w9K/PM8/AdHMop6 dEwfefD76SuOHj4rAbnTA2jKovZcmmSXXaF7XDhVfXtuFF+fJnisAPhTXz4K4dH21E1X vgrzGBBq6Bm1v+Zvh4d7HHgkS+6x2dbk1JcAg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A12D84DC20F4D54BA677B300584CE52@ccs.local> References: <35ED2D11DC024043B59F261B3B531DDA@ccs.local> <4A12D84DC20F4D54BA677B300584CE52@ccs.local> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 22:32:49 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Video - "Cigarettes & Sidewalks" by The Wandering Madman From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110740 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 20:32:51 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Brian Carabee wrote: > Read those posts. Fro was asked to change it. That's what I have a problem > with. I wasn't jumping to a conclusion but rather I felt extremely offended > that it was suggested to a man that he should re-do it because "he couldn't > possibly have meant that". That offends me to no end, and it should offend > any of us. If your intention as an artist is to make a clear statement it is indeed helpful when people speak out about not fully understanding what you meant in a particular piece of work. Giving each other such critic on a discussion board like this means no offense. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 1 21:40:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ADB7E183475; Fri, 1 Jul 2011 21:40:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <7AD78671ED684A3980EB537C98AF1D51@ccs.local> From: "Brian Carabee" To: References: <35ED2D11DC024043B59F261B3B531DDA@ccs.local><4A12D84DC20F4D54BA677B300584CE52@ccs.local> Subject: Re: New Video - "Cigarettes & Sidewalks" by The Wandering Madman Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 17:40:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110741 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 21:40:28 +0000 (UTC) It's an offense when someone says, "I'm sure you didn't mean that" and tells them how they should change that particular piece in order to cause it to convey an opposing or a different view. Thanks for sharing. Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 4:32 PM Subject: Re: New Video - "Cigarettes & Sidewalks" by The Wandering Madman > On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Brian Carabee > wrote: >> Read those posts. Fro was asked to change it. That's what I have a >> problem >> with. I wasn't jumping to a conclusion but rather I felt extremely >> offended >> that it was suggested to a man that he should re-do it because "he >> couldn't >> possibly have meant that". That offends me to no end, and it should >> offend >> any of us. > > > If your intention as an artist is to make a clear statement it is > indeed helpful when people speak out about not fully understanding > what you meant in a particular piece of work. Giving each other such > critic on a discussion board like this means no offense. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 1 22:14:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 58B18183475; Fri, 1 Jul 2011 22:14:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_1b147280-400c-450d-9210-71cbeb445449_" X-Originating-IP: [173.97.96.226] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: Re: New Video - "Cigarettes & Sidewalks" by The Wandering Madman Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 17:14:11 -0500 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jul 2011 22:14:12.0015 (UTC) FILETIME=[34B19BF0:01CC383C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110742 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 22:14:13 +0000 (UTC) --_1b147280-400c-450d-9210-71cbeb445449_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If not soly to help me arrange my thoughts in my head=2C I need to reply to= the comments as they are all relevant but this will be my only reply on th= e topic. My only regret is that the video did not direct people to the text descript= ion that lies underneath the actual clip. These few paragraphs were an afte= rthought but ended up explaining how I feel fairly well. I would imagine if= most of the commentators had read it (and I suggest you do)=2C you may hav= e a different viewpoint of me and the video.=20 Regardless of all the contradicting comments and suggestions=2C my goal was= accomplished. Art will always be misinterpreted=2C thus I try not to rela= y specific opinions. I have no religion and I have no politic=2C thus I am = not trying to convert anybody. I am simply trying to make people think and = feel=2C as it appears to me that most of the world has gone numb and has gr= own accustomed to accepting or ignoring the situations that are handed to t= hem. I can only go by my hope that regardless of the viewpoints=2C if every= single person on the planet was vocal and passionate about how they feel= =2C love would prevail and make the world a better place.=20 Thank you for watching. The Wandering Madman=20 = --_1b147280-400c-450d-9210-71cbeb445449_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

If not soly to help me arrange my thoughts in my head=2C I need to repl= y to the comments as they are all relevant but this will be my only reply o= n the topic.

My only regret is that the video did not direct people = to the text description that lies underneath the actual clip. These few par= agraphs were an afterthought but ended up explaining how I feel fairly well= . I would imagine if most of the commentators had read it (and I suggest yo= u do)=2C you may have a different viewpoint of me and the video.

Re= gardless of all the contradicting comments and suggestions=2C my goal was a= ccomplished. =3B Art will always be misinterpreted=2C thus I try not to= relay specific opinions. I have no religion and I have no politic=2C thus = I am not trying to convert anybody. I am simply trying to make people think= and feel=2C as it appears to me that most of the world has gone numb and h= as grown accustomed to accepting or ignoring the situations that are handed= to them. I can only go by my hope that regardless of the viewpoints=2C if = every single person on the planet was vocal and passionate about how they f= eel=2C love would prevail and make the world a better place.


Th= ank you for watching.


The Wandering Madman


=
= --_1b147280-400c-450d-9210-71cbeb445449_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 2 21:40:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0060A183475; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 21:40:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_CuhVIvhlGjMC5snYqKMsig)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-07-02_03:2011-07-02,2011-07-02,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1107020150 From: Daniel Thomas Subject: Re: New Video - "Cigarettes & Sidewalks" by The Wandering Madman Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2011 14:40:08 -0700 In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110743 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 21:40:09 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_CuhVIvhlGjMC5snYqKMsig) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > Regardless of all the contradicting comments and suggestions, my goal was accomplished. Art will always be misinterpreted, thus I try not to relay specific opinions. I have no religion and I have no politic, thus I am not trying to convert anybody. I am simply trying to make people think and feel, as it appears to me that most of the world has gone numb and has grown accustomed to accepting or ignoring the situations that are handed to them. I can only go by my hope that regardless of the viewpoints, if every single person on the planet was vocal and passionate about how they feel, love would prevail and make the world a better place. Beautiful! I love this list. d On Jul 1, 2011, at 3:14 PM, FRO DIDDLY wrote: > > If not soly to help me arrange my thoughts in my head, I need to reply to the comments as they are all relevant but this will be my only reply on the topic. > > My only regret is that the video did not direct people to the text description that lies underneath the actual clip. These few paragraphs were an afterthought but ended up explaining how I feel fairly well. I would imagine if most of the commentators had read it (and I suggest you do), you may have a different viewpoint of me and the video. > > Regardless of all the contradicting comments and suggestions, my goal was accomplished. Art will always be misinterpreted, thus I try not to relay specific opinions. I have no religion and I have no politic, thus I am not trying to convert anybody. I am simply trying to make people think and feel, as it appears to me that most of the world has gone numb and has grown accustomed to accepting or ignoring the situations that are handed to them. I can only go by my hope that regardless of the viewpoints, if every single person on the planet was vocal and passionate about how they feel, love would prevail and make the world a better place. > > > Thank you for watching. > > > The Wandering Madman > > --Boundary_(ID_CuhVIvhlGjMC5snYqKMsig) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Regardless of all the contradicting comments and = suggestions, my goal was accomplished.  Art will always be = misinterpreted, thus I try not to relay specific opinions. I have no = religion and I have no politic, thus I am not trying to convert anybody. = I am simply trying to make people think and feel, as it appears to me = that most of the world has gone numb and has grown accustomed to = accepting or ignoring the situations that are handed to them. I can only = go by my hope that regardless of the viewpoints, if every single person = on the planet was vocal and passionate about how they feel, love would = prevail and make the world a better = place. 

Beautiful! =  I love this list.

d
On Jul 1, 2011, at 3:14 PM, FRO = DIDDLY wrote:


If not soly to help me arrange my thoughts in my = head, I need to reply to the comments as they are all relevant but this = will be my only reply on the topic.

My only regret is that the = video did not direct people to the text description that lies underneath = the actual clip. These few paragraphs were an afterthought but ended up = explaining how I feel fairly well. I would imagine if most of the = commentators had read it (and I suggest you do), you may have a = different viewpoint of me and the video. 

Regardless of all = the contradicting comments and suggestions, my goal was = accomplished.  Art will always be misinterpreted, thus I try not to = relay specific opinions. I have no religion and I have no politic, thus = I am not trying to convert anybody. I am simply trying to make people = think and feel, as it appears to me that most of the world has gone numb = and has grown accustomed to accepting or ignoring the situations that = are handed to them. I can only go by my hope that regardless of the = viewpoints, if every single person on the planet was vocal and = passionate about how they feel, love would prevail and make the world a = better place. 


Thank you for = watching.


The Wandering Madman 


<= /span>

= --Boundary_(ID_CuhVIvhlGjMC5snYqKMsig)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 3 07:45:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90680183478; Sun, 3 Jul 2011 07:45:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=N0SS629qhKQyw4VmJ3MnvvVUlwHUIW+AmX/wn3IfSL0=; b=HsVmYbv3R27iUTXecfRscF1DIF42My0CXQa46trPaSoBodMRBL0HNERAPI9k44cVQF olj9EadzWOsEKXrnVHSv/5eqW6Uz8bJJ5D+ydozBbiG7+LZhhtJyN+oZz3KtFCiLwGey rgwdRm+amhPIHpxpmysMvFCVHxwtDP73XHJZs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 09:45:00 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Eno Streaming at Wired From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110744 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 07:45:01 +0000 (UTC) whos playing the guitar there? awesome! On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > http://www.wired.com/underwire/2011/07/brian-eno-drums-between-the-bells/ > > In case you'd like a listen. > > Kevin > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble= . > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 3 09:57:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D85E183475; Sun, 3 Jul 2011 09:57:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=RQ96qm/urcA3bF/YNyYsaIrYJGOyZ+JIquADXr2McJk=; b=T9+m5Sqrg2VSkBg6AZQkeh/mL7kXedAYC2R+JgU8NsljQ39RRn77GzaL8TIiG97tM6 KW6PPoq48YS0SasdIdXtecJd8k3yNY1H3S3ymrFseH+7xSQAHQDakg1zeFybomzEluP0 urau/LaHqyiuY2QZ+kZt2n5PfWYk29deMQz/s= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 11:57:06 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Eno Streaming at Wired From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110745 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 09:57:08 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > whos playing the guitar there? awesome! > > On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando > wrote: >> http://www.wired.com/underwire/2011/07/brian-eno-drums-between-the-bells/ I have not been much of an Eno fan but in this release I enjoy every second! I'm glad I finally clicked the link to check it out because this really sounds great, besides being plain interesting. Wow. And more Wow! Wows from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 3 13:09:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D302183462; Sun, 3 Jul 2011 13:09:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1425 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 13:09:17 UTC X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 08:45:33 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: paul Subject: pi video Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_733213406==.ALT" Message-Id: <20110703124531.E3BF614DEF@ns4.tnt21.com> Resent-Message-ID: <6GRJFD.A.0GG.9nGEOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110746 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 13:09:17 +0000 (UTC) --=====================_733213406==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed My nephew sent this to me as he thought it may be something that I'd enjoy. I don't recall it being posted before but it is quite fun. http://www.freeguitarvideos.com/blog/2011/03/numerical-music-theory-the-pi-song.html Paul Haslem Ontario, Canada www.dulcify.ca --=====================_733213406==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" My nephew sent this to me as he thought it may be something that I'd enjoy. I don't recall it being posted before but it is quite fun.

http://www.freeguitarvideos.com/blog/2011/03/numerical-music-theory-the-pi-song.html


Paul Haslem
Ontario, Canada
www.dulcify.ca
 --=====================_733213406==.ALT-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 3 13:11:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E3408183477; Sun, 3 Jul 2011 13:11:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_fbcdb92d-1539-4d86-a191-6ae5f4beda48_" X-Originating-IP: [62.7.181.3] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: a couple of Ableton items Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 13:11:23 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jul 2011 13:11:23.0771 (UTC) FILETIME=[B55574B0:01CC3982] Resent-Message-ID: <0nFltC.A.AOG.9pGEOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110747 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 13:11:25 +0000 (UTC) --_fbcdb92d-1539-4d86-a191-6ae5f4beda48_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know a few of you guys use Ableton for looping - so do I nowadays. So.Is = anyone else getting tempo drift for the built in looper? Mine goes way out = after around 2 minutes rendering it useless for my needs.andIs anyone else = here using ClyphX - I haven't downloaded it yet but it looks cool. Here's a= link: http://beatwise.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=3Dproduction&action=3Ddisplay= &thread=3D716 Basically it lets you script settings in Ableton allowing you to change mul= tiple parameters from one command. Peace G p.s. Thanks for the long delay suggestions from a couple of you guys. I end= ed up just stringing some short delays together on the same track and sendi= ng its output back to its input for feedback.. this has some cool implicati= ons for inserting processors in the feedback chain. = --_fbcdb92d-1539-4d86-a191-6ae5f4beda48_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I know = a few of you guys use Ableton for looping - so do I nowadays. =3B
= = So.
Is anyone else getting tempo drift for the built in looper? Mine g= oes way out after around 2 minutes rendering it useless for my needs.
= and
Is anyone else here using ClyphX - I haven't downloaded it yet but= it looks cool. Here's a link:

http://beatwise.proboards.com= /index.cgi?board=3Dproduction&=3Baction=3Ddisplay&=3Bthread=3D716

Basically it lets you script settings in Ableton allowing you t= o change multiple parameters from one command.

<= span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 10pt=3B ">Peace<= /div>
G

p.s. Thanks for the long delay suggestions from a = couple of you guys. I ended up just stringing some short delays together on= the same track and sending its output back to its input for feedback.. thi= s has some cool implications for inserting processors in the feedback chain= .



= --_fbcdb92d-1539-4d86-a191-6ae5f4beda48_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 3 13:19:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECEA2183464; Sun, 3 Jul 2011 13:19:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=loEJgcleCidKQHGbdjVpfUJC4drYCSxnx+/EZOT9AEA=; b=dtouiG7UCjmgOicIrjFO29y0vbxZ2ylsz+5FdGfb4QCSnohr6Do3gJP3sHcEEYXjSS Zmt2hxYlExFVQdFDbFjhxD2ppBydPPxK6sdvXea7cS9hzbHajaptd1yVZT3BpG9gfAv1 0LI92EJ3qsSYsNxkNkG10lLcHEANaV1IjWlLM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 15:19:50 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: a couple of Ableton items From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110748 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 13:19:51 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > Is anyone else getting tempo drift for the built in looper? Mine goes way > out after around 2 minutes rendering it useless for my needs. I've heard grunts about that. Do a search over at the Live forum and you will get the details. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 3 14:23:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA21E183464; Sun, 3 Jul 2011 14:23:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9rSpJXIPNMSUfr+L4wcB5K1EliKD5PwPfJbN5TgNasI=; b=Yz1EWUqVrO75dD8vP0L9HEs4WzKpsIu9HyhKXAgunXbGhw7KejM1sCwQ3ffpIgiacL dh71c5J1xPE7yTNUd1qiuIblMzt5xTwNKvCIeHJ6gawMUO9vLTM3Q9tkvFRAuyEpTNa1 TvvKhGcQVVWtqHlg/nPv0qOzcGHzGAVCx+OIs= Message-ID: <4E107B4F.6030005@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 16:23:11 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Looper's Delight Mailing List Subject: DD20 odd behaviour: high-pitched constant whine in specific wiring situations Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8vdX7D.A.UAH.TtHEOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110749 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 14:23:15 +0000 (UTC) Hi everyone, I'm finally at my wit's end - so the only possible solution left is to ask you: My Boss DD20 has for a long time been integrated into a setup centered around a Mackie 1202 VLZ Pro mixer (aka "Nerdville Setup"). After remodelling that setup recently ("Nerdville 2.0"), I considered a constant high-pitched shrieking sound emitting from the DD20. The sound is also present if there are no inputs connected to the DD20, or if all other connections to the mixer are removed. The sound remains if I connect the DD20 to different inputs of the mixer. Trying different cables doesn't help, either. The sound does not appear in the DD20's headphone connection, and by using an unbalanced (TS) cable instead of a TRS cable to connect the DD20 to the mixer. So the short version: workaround defined (using TS cable). However, I'd prefer to know what is happening here. Any ideas? Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 3 14:29:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C22A4183477; Sun, 3 Jul 2011 14:29:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Xygf3SCd/Z8xEKSZLWtgB8eKTrgr50CWX7SV591aXZQ=; b=PaoN+CA8DyDIxhDg/a+cImVHcPBgUbJVmkV9s54T0JHS6vSZ8LXkdXDXBsDXm1He78 9jPu6f0O+YDs7l15chY8ksu6brXiJZoQe3nS3uW3oyhT9pGfjk3m1k+LgYzquWxrhclq yRcA252FrS1uHI75rLxk1mGqYF0IptLD6ZNlo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E107B4F.6030005@googlemail.com> References: <4E107B4F.6030005@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 10:29:30 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: DD20 odd behaviour: high-pitched constant whine in specific wiring situations From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f31662f45e004a72b14f4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110750 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 14:29:31 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307f31662f45e004a72b14f4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Rainer, I haven't had that one but have you tried running the DD 20 on battery only yet? I have had that issue with another delay before; battery/no noise, ac/noise so ps could be at fault which would be a good thing... best, J On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm finally at my wit's end - so the only possible solution left is to ask > you: > > My Boss DD20 has for a long time been integrated into a setup centered > around a Mackie 1202 VLZ Pro mixer (aka "Nerdville Setup"). After > remodelling that setup recently ("Nerdville 2.0"), I considered a constant > high-pitched shrieking sound emitting from the DD20. > > The sound is also present if there are no inputs connected to the DD20, or > if all other connections to the mixer are removed. The sound remains if I > connect the DD20 to different inputs of the mixer. Trying different cables > doesn't help, either. > The sound does not appear in the DD20's headphone connection, and by using > an unbalanced (TS) cable instead of a TRS cable to connect the DD20 to the > mixer. > > So the short version: workaround defined (using TS cable). However, I'd > prefer to know what is happening here. > > Any ideas? > > Rainer > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > > --20cf307f31662f45e004a72b14f4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rainer, I haven't had that one but have you tried running the DD 20 on = battery only yet? I have had that issue with another delay before; battery/= no noise, ac/noise so ps could be at fault which would be a good thing...
best,

J

On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at= 10:23 AM, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hi everyone,

I'm finally at my wit's end - so the only possible solution left is= to ask you:

My Boss DD20 has for a long time been integrated into a setup centered arou= nd a Mackie 1202 VLZ Pro mixer (aka "Nerdville Setup"). After rem= odelling that setup recently ("Nerdville 2.0"), I considered a co= nstant high-pitched shrieking sound emitting from the DD20.

The sound is also present if there are no inputs connected to the DD20, or = if all other connections to the mixer are removed. The sound remains if I c= onnect the DD20 to different inputs of the mixer. Trying different cables d= oesn't help, either.
The sound does not appear in the DD20's headphone connection, and by us= ing an unbalanced (TS) cable instead of a TRS cable to connect the DD20 to = the mixer.

So the short version: workaround defined (using TS cable). However, I'd= prefer to know what is happening here.

Any ideas?

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer

--
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Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs


--20cf307f31662f45e004a72b14f4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 3 14:52:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6449B183464; Sun, 3 Jul 2011 14:52:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Mark Hamburg Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-520-685052496 Subject: Re: pi video Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 07:52:14 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20110703124531.E3BF614DEF@ns4.tnt21.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <20110703124531.E3BF614DEF@ns4.tnt21.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110751 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 14:52:18 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-520-685052496 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jul 3, 2011, at 5:45 AM, paul wrote: > My nephew sent this to me as he thought it may be something that I'd = enjoy. I don't recall it being posted before but it is quite fun. >=20 > = http://www.freeguitarvideos.com/blog/2011/03/numerical-music-theory-the-pi= -song.html=20 Though unfortunately some people feel they own the rights to the notion = of pi as the basis for music: http://vihart.com/blog/pi-politics/ Mark --Apple-Mail-520-685052496 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
On Jul 3, 2011, at 5:45 AM, paul wrote:

My nephew sent this to me as he thought it may be something that I'd enjoy. I don't recall it being posted before but it is quite fun.

http://www.freeguitarvideos.com/blog/2011/03/numerical-music-theory-the-pi-song.html 

Though unfortunately some people feel they own the rights to the notion of pi as the basis for music:


Mark


--Apple-Mail-520-685052496-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 3 14:55:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B96BB183477; Sun, 3 Jul 2011 14:55:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=KLS8PsDDDv9Z6CzGuQLT9fDhksdjWk0vtwt6rWd33bM=; b=syy2O63Q87UbYxpEW7Qb6QttTgbfEC9IQ3C9DB7VR/MPh+qlS/WkQph5L8/ga5lWrH R9W3g6KR/ypWy5ccJbe4YA6J49kSg5uWgYPMvR9iXQ5kSBFc9kV+BcFuZ3jQ38RQEgs2 A1xoBg3CmI5MPk8UClhbLEGDximCspDQek8bc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2A503E61-F2ED-44A0-8938-FF84A8D2BD7B@mac.com> References: <4E0C3D23.9080506@cruzio.com> <2A503E61-F2ED-44A0-8938-FF84A8D2BD7B@mac.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 08:55:24 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Query Mac purchase From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110752 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 14:55:26 +0000 (UTC) I would simply add that he should also strongly consider Apple Refurbs, either directly from Apple or from these folks: http://www.smalldog.com/ (some of you Mac users may already know about Small Dog, voted one of the best businesses in Vermont). The Refurbs are often a significantly less expensive way to get some great buys and can get the same AppleCare coverage as a new machine. Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote: > IF its all about running virtual instruments, he needs a fast and powerful machine. I recommend the i7 processors on the iMacs or MBPs. > > If he is only recording midi data and spitting back out to external sound modules, then a trailing edge machine would suffice. > > Daniel > On Jun 30, 2011, at 2:08 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> >> I have a client who is considering putting together a midi recording >> setup using a Mac computer. >> >> He's going to use VSTi instruments with a keyboard almost exclusively and very little real time audio. >> >> He wondered whether a brand new Mac Mini or a Macbook would do the trick >> or whether he should fork out the extra dough and get a Macbook Pro. >> >> My MBP is over 4 years old now so I can't really advise him. >> >> Would you mind letting me know what you guys know about such a purchase? >> >> Thanks a lot, >> >> Rick Walker >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 3 15:00:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB115183473; Sun, 3 Jul 2011 15:00:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rVN88t/EjYO4M2yBATiXiHmiWfuKo5EJEGnsoGXAC2o=; b=mIdGx5wB6NeggHDJpOsPsV6TdqyLc6fR4qQB2XhWLHmO9l9DCZI5larHd0AI4Olv7g NeKxR4jjf20GEndQLrM2vxo8sAMf1zf2r3Lrb8bMOkIZpSNxsz/Z+0p+vmN6ktjau0Lc EUG2wECkihpUUusIELp2FbG33PiMTtQXzGErQ= Message-ID: <4E108423.8030503@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 17:00:51 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: DD20 odd behaviour: high-pitched constant whine in specific wiring situations References: <4E107B4F.6030005@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110753 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 15:00:53 +0000 (UTC) I haven't tried that, for one simple reason: Having to use batteries is a showstopper from the view of my equipment logistics, which using unbalanced lines is not. I have, however, in the meantime tried to connect the DD20 with TRS lines to the CentralStation (balanced ins), and found no noise. On the other hand, the Mackie with other devices works fine as well - the typical "swap devices and see what happens" test failed... Rainer Jeff Duke schrieb: > Rainer, I haven't had that one but have you tried running the DD 20 on > battery only yet? I have had that issue with another delay before; > battery/no noise, ac/noise so ps could be at fault which would be a > good thing... > > best, > > J > > On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Rainer Straschill > > wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I'm finally at my wit's end - so the only possible solution left > is to ask you: > > My Boss DD20 has for a long time been integrated into a setup > centered around a Mackie 1202 VLZ Pro mixer (aka "Nerdville > Setup"). After remodelling that setup recently ("Nerdville 2.0"), > I considered a constant high-pitched shrieking sound emitting from > the DD20. > > The sound is also present if there are no inputs connected to the > DD20, or if all other connections to the mixer are removed. The > sound remains if I connect the DD20 to different inputs of the > mixer. Trying different cables doesn't help, either. > The sound does not appear in the DD20's headphone connection, and > by using an unbalanced (TS) cable instead of a TRS cable to > connect the DD20 to the mixer. > > So the short version: workaround defined (using TS cable). > However, I'd prefer to know what is happening here. > > Any ideas? > > Rainer > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > > -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 3 15:18:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B730183477; Sun, 3 Jul 2011 15:18:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=2ayONMxMc4VF50rrNYdqjOpoR/bHlWaJA4hHkGpHxWA=; b=HAu7wq7Ve1WGYI8U09lYlhsIPZg0vuy6OjwalppALh2sCnZA9XAYgOIQFcQUoFVq7i XfWFdGn61yHqIozS79N8A+xI8ldttVN4ClJa9/psYi0O1GRZFEPqm66VrwkaoUQY2j9d hvXVQbm5fFzXJclyxGjnn/sEe+FhOBQjsBQfg= References: <4E0C3D23.9080506@cruzio.com> <2A503E61-F2ED-44A0-8938-FF84A8D2BD7B@mac.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <06958C50-EFAA-409F-88B2-963B27A07CA6@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: doc rossi Subject: Re: OT Query Mac purchase Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 17:18:11 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <1mHTcB.A.tI.OhIEOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110754 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 15:18:38 +0000 (UTC) I've had great luck with refurbs - and everything else - from small dog. = they're very good. On Jul 3, 2011, at 4:55 PM, Dennis Moser wrote: > I would simply add that he should also strongly consider Apple > Refurbs, either directly from Apple or from these folks: > http://www.smalldog.com/ (some of you Mac users may already know about > Small Dog, voted one of the best businesses in Vermont). >=20 > The Refurbs are often a significantly less expensive way to get some > great buys and can get the same AppleCare coverage as a new machine. >=20 > Best, >=20 > Dennis >=20 >=20 > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Daniel Thomas = wrote: >> IF its all about running virtual instruments, he needs a fast and = powerful machine. I recommend the i7 processors on the iMacs or MBPs. >>=20 >> If he is only recording midi data and spitting back out to external = sound modules, then a trailing edge machine would suffice. >>=20 >> Daniel >> On Jun 30, 2011, at 2:08 AM, Rick Walker wrote: >>=20 >>> Hi folks, >>>=20 >>> I have a client who is considering putting together a midi recording >>> setup using a Mac computer. >>>=20 >>> He's going to use VSTi instruments with a keyboard almost = exclusively and very little real time audio. >>>=20 >>> He wondered whether a brand new Mac Mini or a Macbook would do the = trick >>> or whether he should fork out the extra dough and get a Macbook Pro. >>>=20 >>> My MBP is over 4 years old now so I can't really advise him. >>>=20 >>> Would you mind letting me know what you guys know about such a = purchase? >>>=20 >>> Thanks a lot, >>>=20 >>> Rick Walker >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 3 18:24:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D777183478; Sun, 3 Jul 2011 18:24:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=tCq/G+bVTuy0rtolXbO075qmyrBcYBlQaLcNdZ9blVc=; b=UNtmrlrt2GLrT1Dba2LhYlADi+9pXW1bSjK1FpyEDKVcCC2O7NBoQ/CdLX45L+tdCA 27HzK6qC//eKdq58/Tfzpyq2Oecc8faYbQ50sHeQ1w3ghHCRCn+sX6f5dWl3oBa5DHjg vfhK0b4ZKbDmOaIOoQUkqPLya/rN5H5sTKU9Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 20:23:45 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: t9SEwB4oNJ2damFGM-FtI6M2g9o Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Video - "Cigarettes & Sidewalks" by The Wandering Madman To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e82c0224fe204a72e5be5 Resent-Message-ID: <0mfrFC.A.ZKC.HPLEOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110755 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 18:24:07 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e82c0224fe204a72e5be5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 11:40 PM, Daniel Thomas wrote= : Regardless of all the contradicting comments and suggestions, my goal was accomplished. Art will always be misinterpreted, thus I try not to relay specific opinions. I have no religion and I have no politic, thus I am not trying to convert anybody. I am simply trying to make people think and feel= , as it appears to me that most of the world has gone numb and has grown accustomed to accepting or ignoring the situations that are handed to them. I can only go by my hope that regardless of the viewpoints, if every single person on the planet was vocal and passionate about how they feel, love would prevail and make the world a better place. Beautiful! I love this list. d Quite, me too and well said Fro! You are always clear and clever in your written word, and I did read your text that accompanied the video, which clearly shows which side of the political fence you lie, so theres no need to say you are non-political, political stance is not something one should be afraid to stand by. My comment was as Per pointed out, a little and hopefully constructive criticism from a fellow humanitarian/looper/film-maker. I do understand tha= t within the culture and position of the US of A, the choice of imagery would stand as you intended it, for to parade the faces of the dead infront of a US audience is to hold up their shame in front of their eyes. My comment wa= s simply pointing out that from a world view point, it can also be seen another way, as US National Pride and posturing. As an English man Garath also noticed this. You are right that Art will often be misinterpreted, but as Brian stated (completely incorrectly) "You mean he doesn't have the RIGHT to present a work of art that differs from your guys' perspectives?" Of course not, but your perspective doesn't differ from mine, we share the same perspective and beliefs, and still I felt your intention was not fully realized. I=B4ll say it again, GREAT WORK FRO, keep it up! And I applaud you for addi= ng this exiting and political layer to your looping videos, my own music and video has no such connections or meaning, and are surly the weaker for it. Mark --=20 *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba6e82c0224fe204a72e5be5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 11:40 PM, Daniel = Thomas <danie= lthomas4@mac.com> wrote:
Regardless of all the contradicting comments and suggestions, my goal was=20 accomplished.=A0 Art will always be misinterpreted, thus I try not to=20 relay specific opinions. I have no religion and I have no politic, thus I am not trying to convert anybody. I am simply trying to make people=20 think and feel, as it appears to me that most of the world has gone numb and has grown accustomed to accepting or ignoring the situations that=20 are handed to them. I can only go by my hope that regardless of the=20 viewpoints, if every single person on the planet was vocal and=20 passionate about how they feel, love would prevail and make the world a=20 better place.=A0

Beautiful! =A0I love this list.

d

Quite, me too and well said Fro!

You are always clear and cleve= r in your written word, and I did read your text that accompanied the video= , which clearly shows which side of the political fence you lie, so theres = no need to say you are non-political, political stance is not something one= should be afraid to stand by. My comment was as Per pointed out, a little = and hopefully constructive criticism from a fellow humanitarian/looper/film= -maker. I do understand that within the culture and position of the US of A= , the choice of imagery would stand as you intended it, for to parade the f= aces of the dead infront of a US audience is to hold up their shame in fron= t of their eyes. My comment was simply pointing out that from a world view = point, it can also be seen another way, as US National Pride and posturing.= As an English man Garath also noticed this.
You are right that Art will often be misinterpreted, but as Brian stated (c= ompletely incorrectly)

"You mean he doesn't have th= e RIGHT to present a work of art that differs from your guys' perspecti= ves?"

Of course not, but your perspective doesn't differ from mine, we sh= are the same perspective and beliefs, and still I felt your intention was n= ot fully realized.

I=B4ll say it again, GREAT = WORK FRO, keep it up! And I applaud you for adding this exiting and politic= al layer to your looping videos, my own music and video has no such connect= ions or meaning, and are surly the weaker for it.

Mark


--
Mark F= rancombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--90e6ba6e82c0224fe204a72e5be5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 3 18:31:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8090F183477; Sun, 3 Jul 2011 18:31:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 20:31:45 +0200 From: buzap@gmx.net Message-ID: <20110703183145.89630@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Faderfox LV3: Impressions & Mixed Feelings To: "LD LoopersDelight" X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX196Pfwcr0Z6xVCGBSuqa3Ik8rh/OePQsktErczLK6 /c3N2d9wKgix0Rf+Xl1k3R/plY7as0gpy5/A== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: po0mfzEQYmYBWJ8snnY3X2BCWkZTQZRQ Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110756 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 18:31:47 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks I've got my brand-new Faderfox LV3 (http://faderfox.de) now and would like to share my first impressions - and unfortunately mixed feelings I had as a non-Ableton user so far. So, first of all, the hardware is really great. Basically, it works just plug&play via USB. No midi cable, no power supply. It's wonderful. 8 faders, 3x8 buttons, 5 push-encoders, 2 joysticks and more... This is an excellent form-factor. And it just fits perfectly on top of my Motu Ultralite. The new rubber encoders work perfectly fine, though I personally prefer hard plastic. If I remember right, the rubber feet are also new and they provide excellent grip. Now, let's get to the software... The whole thing is optimized for Ableton Live and I'm sure it works great with it (haven't tried it yet). There is also a mapping configuration that you can just copy&paste, so it should work with Ableton out of the box. The scene encoder & the feedback LEDs (clip status for 8 tracks) are also convenient, I guess. However, I want to use this with Mainstage+Mobius and was hoping for a system setting that would provide me a "plain vanilla midi CC mode". Boy, I was disappointed... Theoretically, the buttons are "programmable". In reality, however - at least as far as I've figured out so far - they are extremely limited: - The 8x black button row is hard-coded. They are intended for track select. They send a CC with "127" on press (no release message) for ca. 1 second. - The other buttons are "programmable". The only thing you can assign, however, are 8 Ableton functions. Out of these 8 functions, only "Clip Launch" provides a proper midi CC with press=127/release=0. The other ones either work like the black keys (send "127" only) or toggle between 0/127/0/... with each alternating press (no release message). This means, I was only able to assign proper CC messages for Mainstage on 8 buttons with "clip launch". I wasn't able to work with the rest of the 2x8 buttons (and another 3x8 with Shift key). After spending a whole day fiddling, I was kind of able to more or less work-around with the mighty MidiPipe (Mac OSX). But this is clearly not how it should be... I was so busy with the buttons, that I haven't found a solution for the encoders yet: They either send 0/1 or toggle between 0-6 and 122-127. Wasn't able to use them so far. The volume faders worked just the way they should: Midi CC 0-127. Perfect. To sum it up: This is a beautiful, portable, solid plug&play controller. Yet, at least in this very first release, it seems that all the love & attention has been put into the hardware (and to be fair: Ableton useability). For pure midi CC control, I was't yet really satisfied. For a 250 Euro premium product, I'd expect more: - Proper documentation (not just 4 page leaflet), at least online documentation, wiki or forum. - A true simple "midi CC mode": All buttons work press=127/release=0. Encoders send CC 0 through 127. - Even better: an editor/configuration tool like Korg nano series. - Configure (or simply turn off) LEDs. - More flexible functions, i.e. program change with the scene encoder... I haven't contacted Mathias Fuchs (developer) yet. Let's just hope some improvement is on the way. So my suggestion: If you love the form factor and are an Ableton user, give it a try. Non-Ableton users: Don't expect comfortable tweaking like the Korg Nano series software. I can respect that the initial focus is on Ableton Live useability. In the long run, however, imho a "programmable" midi controller for 250 EUR should be able to provide more for the non-Ableton user. Let's hope for the best. I'd really love to love this controller... :-) In the meantime: If anyone else here knows how to work some Faderfox-magic with Mainstage/MidiPipe, help is GREATLY appreciated! best regards Buzap -- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 3 18:57:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4E2C183465; Sun, 3 Jul 2011 18:57:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 20:57:22 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110703185722.175580@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Subject: Re: Reviewing Faderfox LV3 mini hand MIDI mixer/controler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19fVYpPzrpfOcZn+j7gzC9yD8bEw8OP4tapYVji/N WYLwMLcWZPe5kJAlfaKSjMzctkRamtbLORoA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: /c55fdsKeWUkQNt9km5npRAjL0tsZs1w Resent-Message-ID: <0snre.A.YpC.VuLEOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110757 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 18:57:25 +0000 (UTC) Hi Per Great you're on board with LV3+Mainstage, too :-) Obviously, if you've read my post, you know I'm struggling with LV3 + Mainstage... ;-) > The four top row rotary knobs can be programmed to for absolute mode How do you get them to work from 0..127 in mainstage? What is your best practic to transform "send 127" or "toggle 0/127" buttons into press=127/release=0 buttons (like clip launch)? I'd like to assign more buttons to instant functions i.e. instant stutter or delay tap. How do you work-around with mainstage? >Genius design Can you give an example, how this would work with scaling in Mainstage usefully? best regards Buzap -- NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 3 19:10:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8649183489; Sun, 3 Jul 2011 19:10:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 631886787/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.24.209/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.24.209 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoQCADG+EE5YbRjR/2dsb2JhbAAMRpkKmGPBO4Y2BJcgi00 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,468,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="631886787" Message-ID: <4E10BE89.6080003@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 20:10:01 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: DD20 odd behaviour: high-pitched constant whine in specific wiring situations References: <4E107B4F.6030005@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4E107B4F.6030005@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110758 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 19:10:00 +0000 (UTC) Trying with a battery would be a diagnostic for checking if the noise is introduced by the wall wart. Boss style wall warts, with +VE earth can often produce problems with noise. Are you using one of those newer(smaller) switching mode warts? Those can introduce a very strong signal onto the +VE earth line which would sound as you describe. andy Rainer Straschill wrote: > My Boss DD20 has for a long time been integrated into a setup centered > around a Mackie 1202 VLZ Pro mixer (aka "Nerdville Setup"). After > remodelling that setup recently ("Nerdville 2.0"), I considered a > constant high-pitched shrieking sound emitting from the DD20. > > The sound is also present if there are no inputs connected to the DD20, > or if all other connections to the mixer are removed. The sound remains > if I connect the DD20 to different inputs of the mixer. Trying different > cables doesn't help, either. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 3 23:07:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8CFCB183474; Sun, 3 Jul 2011 23:07:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rqzZNGf0yal92aGTnDnqRTtdmbbFEsFBNMR9sYoYlOM=; b=bCgCAuqkpdSWjg3mAVGRmVnkIdFpgwcX4wObOXSmqer/Ex9vEFaCTH6dhYM7G7NHxL IIGDNRrRBtqNehM6IrYnMaMLYYQntPYorE1DGEP+HGvIazg/8+CCCVMFe/Ioohoh0fLu nNpXk6gblKGozSbdJ1TrsVIj392dDqKqU8V38= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20110703185722.175580@gmx.net> References: <20110703185722.175580@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 01:07:37 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Reviewing Faderfox LV3 mini hand MIDI mixer/controler From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110759 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 23:07:38 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: >> The four top row rotary knobs can be programmed to for absolute mode > How do you get them to work from 0..127 in mainstage? > I don't use absolute mode. I use them to just add or subtract from the actual level of the target parameter, incrementally that is. So if a track level parameter is left at value 67 my turning of the Faderfox knob to the right will start increasing this parameter like 68, 69, 70, 71 and so on. Or if I grab the knob and turn it left the parameter will go 66, 65, 64 etc. > What is your best practic to transform "send 127" or "toggle 0/127" butto= ns into press=3D127/release=3D0 buttons (like clip launch)? I'd like to ass= ign more buttons to instant functions i.e. instant stutter or delay tap. Ho= w do you work-around with mainstage? I don't work - it just works. When using a button style control object (from the Mainstage graphic object pool) Mainstage interprets both type of Faderfox buttons in the same way. The buttons that only send the 127 value and the buttons that send alternatively 0 and 127 gets treated the same way due to me having chosen the Mainstage button style control object. Well, that's my educated guess of how it works - I don't really know the details but in this case sending the value 0 and 127 both gives the same "toggle function" result. > >>Genius design > Can you give an example, how this would work with scaling in Mainstage us= efully? A volume pedal is a good example; you typically want it to not be linear but to rather increase volume a bit faster in the beginning - if starting from the silent position (heel down / tow up on the expression pedal). At least that's how I like it. Then you apply the actual scaling at the binding between the graphical Mainstage object and the software parameter. These scaling is presented like a graph in an X/Y field and you can click the graph to create nodes that you can drag to shape the graph for exactly the envelop you want. But there is also an option to apply some scaling at the binding between graphical Mainstage control object at the incoming external MIDI stream. Not by linear curves, just by deciding if a control object shall behave like an on/off thing, like a linear sweep or like momentary switch. Or if it shall follow data scaled, in an absolute way or incrementally. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 3 23:25:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E0D4183473; Sun, 3 Jul 2011 23:25:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=WwSGd9mkB6smy9AWD/wPxeqmCyKPCbVQBDF+txtUPhU=; b=T0AJEDxtovs8y5e0GRBYa3ni2eY8a8DsynPWa8YOYI6damIJLKZ7W/Pa3YhaViHlcA PVYvyifO7GWfxxAJIjd9CEN4pGkRRJUCPpf51IQDj/GDaqL5lkyW+f0uAJ2QjcO9NKrQ Y8ZEmCufMIyO69hh3luRxq/lEMKiYf8viHwZk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20110703183145.89630@gmx.net> References: <20110703183145.89630@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 01:25:10 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Faderfox LV3: Impressions & Mixed Feelings From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110760 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 23:25:12 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 8:31 PM, wrote: > If anyone else here knows how to work some Faderfox-magic with Mainstage/MidiPipe, help is GREATLY appreciated! What I did was to launch both Mainstage and Bidule when plugging in the LV3 for the first time. Bidule has a tool called "MIDI Monitor 2" that shows what MIDI messages are coming into the computer. This monitor made it a simple task, of a couple of hours, to try out all combinations of button pressing on the Faderfox and learn how they interact (which I described in my earlier post). So when knowing what CC# can be spit out by the LV3 you can create a mixer or looper or whatever interface you need in Mainstage to match that MIDI data. Maybe I should say that I only use Mobius as a four track looper - not the default eight tracks. One nifty thing that was nice to set up with the LV3 was four band EQs for every channel; you press the track selection button for a chosen track and then the four rotary (incremental) will start targeting the four EQ bands for this particular track. Graphically I used "visual meter" on the Mainstage screen because then these four bands can be put on a horisontal line and graphically form a linear EQ curve. I like it that way because you "see" the sound by just one glance and the four encoder knobs kind of represent one EQ band "visual meter" each. This was just one example - if you start by learning what MIDI can be sent out from the LV3 and how the track selection buttons will re-organize what is sent out by the encoders (either by pressing them for a 0 or 127 value or by twisting them for incremental or absolute 1/127 control) you can start making up control environments to get at parameters you want to play with. The important step is to memorize all LV3 combination first, only then you can start inventing different possible applications. 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--bcaec53f9847091e8004a733d500-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 4 01:26:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8796418345E; Mon, 4 Jul 2011 01:26:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UpDgnc0eRR+88K+VB1rdpFX4wt+Gd/gy46zBPrwr22E=; b=ZIC5JoT74x6AG1eMm4Ib1hSKyYysQuvD4/0r0dzQVxj1rTA9WCNJxaa/Qg+HTXK7Ys 2yLas4eIx2m6NFppLY1P6ThoTZthKnlbFVResWkCeW8CVQVK8XPve/tcsxXLzDTSmNIo H6V9mxqvnDTaoFVCizYI1ltGxVOELehOMNqkA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 21:26:16 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: gig spam! From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <1NP57C.A.Z4G.5aREOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110762 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 01:26:17 +0000 (UTC) Wish I could catch but off to see movei with daughter. I did watch main vid off his site while cooking, incredibly passionate stuff. Jim On 7/3/11, Jeff Duke wrote: > Fro Diddly aka The Wandering madman will be live in 5 minutes! > > http://www.thewanderingmadman.com/webcam.html > > > > > --=20 Sent from my mobile device *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 4 07:45:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D80AF18345E; Mon, 4 Jul 2011 07:45:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 09:45:26 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110704074526.120980@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20110703185722.175580@gmx.net> Subject: Re: Reviewing Faderfox LV3 mini hand MIDI mixer/controler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+IPwwX7TSIIwuhzmZ83BaUWMsPtquZtA2m9DPyqk gTCkyf1W+24jV5rb4pLLX35HEoiWohiYWAEA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: pVgjf3YHIydmbIx+j2ZrWoFSa2FkZpUI Resent-Message-ID: <02_ZW.A.GuC.Z-WEOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110763 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 07:45:29 +0000 (UTC) Hi Per yes, I've spent plenty of time analyzing Faderfox LV3 behaviour (would have preferred a midi implementation chart...). Overall, I think the LV3 buttons are great for turning things on/off. But I want to reliably trigger Mainstage/Mobius commands without looking at a screen. That's why I want a physical controller. >>The four top row rotary knobs ... >I use them to just add or subtract I want to use the encoder to control loop/delay feedback. On the Korg NanoKontrol, I look at the physical knob and know the feedback. I turn it all the way up, it's 100%, all the way down, it's 0%. How do you do this with LV3/Mainstage? >>transform "send 127" or "toggle 0/127" >>buttons into "press=127/release=0" buttons? >Mainstage interprets both type of Faderfox buttons in the same way. My impression is that they are interpreted slightly different. When I assign "send 127" instead of "press=127/release=0" to Mobius via Mainstage, it sometimes skips a button press when I hit it quickly twice (i.e. short loop, delay tap). My workaround (after several hours fiddling): - Faderfox sends "127" to MidiPipe, - MidiPipe sends "127" to Mainstage, - MidiPipe converts "127">"0" (Set command), - MidiPipe waits 5ms (Delay command), - MidiPipe sends "0" to Mainstage. This way, Mainstage/Mobius properly reacts to "send 127" CC command. But maybe there is an easier way without MidiPipe? best regards Buzap -- NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 4 09:32:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5FE0318345D; Mon, 4 Jul 2011 09:32:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=DrCgkSObUSustzWx4m6/Mwb+XJfGQ2eQtEuHDrgRVSo=; b=SZq9k1+Dea4tV6r+oO40TBbUM9JGPMeqhKGdSdxpA9mYjuQAQyv4CjBTffiJlblT8d OdH2eNw1QHOGLWkUmTX3fSJqWk5nrIPI8+02X7E0UK3/MGvgl3iardBm1Rk4P2xXTuaA hqQwovM0XCNVTmWSmScQUR45w8y9ixRvkffek= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20110704074526.120980@gmx.net> References: <20110703185722.175580@gmx.net> <20110704074526.120980@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 11:32:55 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Reviewing Faderfox LV3 mini hand MIDI mixer/controler From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <1yTZdB.A.XuD.IjYEOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110764 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 09:32:56 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > yes, I've spent plenty of time analyzing Faderfox LV3 behaviour (would have preferred a midi implementation chart...). Me too. Would have saved me an hour of research with the Bidule MIDI monitoring. > Overall, I think the LV3 buttons are great for turning things on/off. But I want to reliably trigger Mainstage/Mobius commands without looking at a screen. That's why I want a physical controller. I keep some Mainstage effect on/off on the LV3 and some on the Gordius LG2. Moving functions around to try out the best distribution for the smoothest performance setup. But what the LV3 is best at is to use it as a "mixer" - having said so you could as well "mix" parameters like feedback lops or whatever. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 4 10:59:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 523B3183466; Mon, 4 Jul 2011 10:59:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=KT6YdZ5AhnmVRxqy6drzu9zxVnoFQCuA+OAKOyHL0ug=; b=f8uTwmq0RReUXW6dyitktzT6Jv7V3F+aDVGe4iVotsG4tDc9vyvk4QGsLetA4rdnR2 AyIM5zCiugUzUhDcLfwy4XMhtegPMuqkXvvKLUOfG/RggH5xi3Jp5kkXfHdCpVTMs4S+ Hz98ph+P4WAR/n6Rm9zi4QwoD7YAL41hf6rxA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 12:59:13 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Video - "Cigarettes & Sidewalks" by The Wandering Madman From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec5014ba902797104a73c42b6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110765 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 10:59:15 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec5014ba902797104a73c42b6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just saw/listened to it: great piece, Fro ! ...and an interesting discussion too. -f www.eterogeneo.com 2011/7/3 mark francombe > > > On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 11:40 PM, Daniel Thomas wr= ote: > > Regardless of all the contradicting comments and suggestions, my goal wa= s > accomplished. Art will always be misinterpreted, thus I try not to relay > specific opinions. I have no religion and I have no politic, thus I am no= t > trying to convert anybody. I am simply trying to make people think and fe= el, > as it appears to me that most of the world has gone numb and has grown > accustomed to accepting or ignoring the situations that are handed to the= m. > I can only go by my hope that regardless of the viewpoints, if every sing= le > person on the planet was vocal and passionate about how they feel, love > would prevail and make the world a better place. > > > Beautiful! I love this list. > > d > > > Quite, me too and well said Fro! > > You are always clear and clever in your written word, and I did read your > text that accompanied the video, which clearly shows which side of the > political fence you lie, so theres no need to say you are non-political, > political stance is not something one should be afraid to stand by. My > comment was as Per pointed out, a little and hopefully constructive > criticism from a fellow humanitarian/looper/film-maker. I do understand t= hat > within the culture and position of the US of A, the choice of imagery wou= ld > stand as you intended it, for to parade the faces of the dead infront of = a > US audience is to hold up their shame in front of their eyes. My comment = was > simply pointing out that from a world view point, it can also be seen > another way, as US National Pride and posturing. As an English man Garath > also noticed this. > You are right that Art will often be misinterpreted, but as Brian stated > (completely incorrectly) > > "You mean he doesn't have the RIGHT to present a work of art that differs > from your guys' perspectives?" > > Of course not, but your perspective doesn't differ from mine, we share th= e > same perspective and beliefs, and still I felt your intention was not ful= ly > realized. > > I=B4ll say it again, GREAT WORK FRO, keep it up! And I applaud you for ad= ding > this exiting and political layer to your looping videos, my own music and > video has no such connections or meaning, and are surly the weaker for it= . > > Mark > > > -- > *Mark Francombe* > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > --bcaec5014ba902797104a73c42b6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just saw/listened to it: great piece, Fro !
...and an interesting discussion too.
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2011/7/3 mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>


On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 11:40 PM, Daniel Thomas <dan= ielthomas4@mac.com> wrote:
Regardless of all the contradicting comments and suggestio= ns, my goal was accomplished.=A0 Art will always be misinterpreted, thus I = try not to relay specific opinions. I have no religion and I have no politi= c, thus I am not trying to convert anybody. I am simply trying to make peop= le think and feel, as it appears to me that most of the world has gone numb= and has grown accustomed to accepting or ignoring the situations that are = handed to them. I can only go by my hope that regardless of the viewpoints,= if every single person on the planet was vocal and passionate about how th= ey feel, love would prevail and make the world a better place.=A0

Beautiful! =A0I love this= list.=20

d


Quite, me= too and well said Fro!

You are always clear and clever in your wri= tten word, and I did read your text that accompanied the video, which clear= ly shows which side of the political fence you lie, so theres no need to sa= y you are non-political, political stance is not something one should be af= raid to stand by. My comment was as Per pointed out, a little and hopefully= constructive criticism from a fellow humanitarian/looper/film-maker. I do = understand that within the culture and position of the US of A, the choice = of imagery would stand as you intended it, for to parade the faces of the d= ead infront of a US audience is to hold up their shame in front of their ey= es. My comment was simply pointing out that from a world view point, it can= also be seen another way, as US National Pride and posturing. As an Englis= h man Garath also noticed this.
You are right that Art will often be misinterpreted, but as Brian stated (c= ompletely incorrectly)

"You mean he doesn't have the RIGHT to present a= work of art that differs from your guys' perspectives?"

Of course not, but your perspective doesn't differ from mine, we sh= are the same perspective and beliefs, and still I felt your intention was n= ot fully realized.

I=B4ll say it again, GREAT WORK FRO, keep it up! = And I applaud you for adding this exiting and political layer to your loopi= ng videos, my own music and video has no such connections or meaning, and a= re surly the weaker for it.

Mark


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--bcaec5014ba902797104a73c42b6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 4 12:07:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40E0F183473; Mon, 4 Jul 2011 12:07:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ws2NiqrapBjlgCSoCWro1pTJF/jp014R//HKzKaIPXI=; b=JgsA34mwSWnJtPt180IU6pmd+/xj++TY5RgEGDvqkVn3Qz82/qqcISEvP46zswAE+I wHw88+6Qc9h2xQHGzUldv/D7XG72X2BJuS9uvocTADWX4ttvzEZa5O9h2XBGdcmL97Jh mxPeN4i4nONUecKRBRrsvr055ZG9uOOOisoy4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CE058E74C3A8E1-15D8-6E3E@webmail-m173.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CE058E74C3A8E1-15D8-6E3E@webmail-m173.sysops.aol.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 08:07:30 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: fest??????????? From: Butch Band To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110766 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 12:07:32 +0000 (UTC) I will be bringing rotten eggs and tomatoes! :) On Thursday, June 30, 2011, michael klobuchar wrote: > mentioned this this morn on FB that i =A0have a gig on GRANDVIEW AVE. eit= her aug 6th or sept third..... > > > > the stage will be overlooking the city directly across the street from th= e incline, the hours are 11am-5 pm, > > > > > i told them i would play 12-3.....BUT.....if i could have the whole block= of time, and i think i might, we could have an outstanding fest > > > > > in public.....would anyone be interested?????.....i have beds, couches, t= asty soup, a pool and we are about a 10 minute walk > > > > > to the stage.....come stay and play......let me know soon if there is any= interest otherwise it will be the FLEMTONES and SACRED DONUT > > > > > for 6 hours and that could get ugly.....at the last FLEMTONES SHOW my #1 = son, ian, was at the door and told me about a guy who had just walked in > > > > > and immediately hurried out shaking his head saying "WHAT THE FUCK WAS TH= AT?".....help an old guy out here, they could throw me off the MOUNT! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 4 12:09:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 59CE318345E; Mon, 4 Jul 2011 12:09:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=EtL2c0jK8jIVQs9oCtAdVDAsvtDCDKVINVaBLROXHPY=; b=cJI72N5nvdd4yyGqGwulyo3r1P5CU+s/yG8ivgp/uZTSB3bEGTS86GPP2VXCdxUgkx JJ2sMBIRAGKOWYX/PSu6YCxWAWY/JF2X1PkSc6wSBjEeiwOqcZ/YrZhIrmMcwm2Do/hN fykhw4+sEPT22meIPcI5f4bP1Od6vctIdCBPA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <8CE058E74C3A8E1-15D8-6E3E@webmail-m173.sysops.aol.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 08:09:32 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: fest??????????? From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec53f9847726afa04a73d3dde Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110767 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 12:09:33 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec53f9847726afa04a73d3dde Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Alright! Breakfast! j On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Butch Band wrote: > I will be bringing rotten eggs and tomatoes! :) > > On Thursday, June 30, 2011, michael klobuchar wrote: > > mentioned this this morn on FB that i have a gig on GRANDVIEW AVE. > either aug 6th or sept third..... > > > > > > > > the stage will be overlooking the city directly across the street from > the incline, the hours are 11am-5 pm, > > > > > > > > > > i told them i would play 12-3.....BUT.....if i could have the whole block > of time, and i think i might, we could have an outstanding fest > > > > > > > > > > in public.....would anyone be interested?????.....i have beds, couches, > tasty soup, a pool and we are about a 10 minute walk > > > > > > > > > > to the stage.....come stay and play......let me know soon if there is any > interest otherwise it will be the FLEMTONES and SACRED DONUT > > > > > > > > > > for 6 hours and that could get ugly.....at the last FLEMTONES SHOW my #1 > son, ian, was at the door and told me about a guy who had just walked in > > > > > > > > > > and immediately hurried out shaking his head saying "WHAT THE FUCK WAS > THAT?".....help an old guy out here, they could throw me off the MOUNT! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --bcaec53f9847726afa04a73d3dde Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alright! Breakfast!

j

On Mon, Jul = 4, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Butch Band <butchband@gmail.com> wrote:
I will be bringing rotten eggs and tomatoes! :)

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--bcaec53f9847726afa04a73d3dde-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 4 14:29:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B87B183462; Mon, 4 Jul 2011 14:29:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CEehAdagp5iVIV+YBJt5cl6E/NsO8qLIkdmyXz+1lEU=; b=WI16BsmBhZSs7sXWvBgTSN+WlOG1KCIpavTVjYNV4gTDHAz1kjnP6FW8RCZvELulxe IHcLwJrKAm8yJ0L6twks345j2UWKZ2+TxB4IG1Jqo/Ctgzog2KGNnk399K7csMlBtKpG jaYjNUjaubBBVySDQ3wCWcO3LK+ob1lG5qfis= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 17:29:32 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: OT: Dropbox and PayPal From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba61374a1f836104a73f32f6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110768 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 14:29:35 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba61374a1f836104a73f32f6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 A couple of services that I use as a musician a lot, have updated their user agreements, ones mentioned in the header of this post. I tried reading the updated agreements, could not find anything suspicious. On the other hand, regarding the Dropbox's latest update, there has been really strong discussion about it. Has anyone on the list had time to review these and what are your opinions? Greetings from Finland, -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com --90e6ba61374a1f836104a73f32f6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A couple of services that I use as a musician a lot, have updated their use= r agreements,
ones mentioned in the header of this post.
I tried read= ing the updated agreements, could not find anything suspicious.
On the o= ther hand, regarding the Dropbox's latest update, there has been really= strong
discussion about it.

Has anyone on the list had time to review these= and what are your opinions?

Greetings from Finland,

--
Petri Lahtinen

http://www.petrilahtinen.com

--90e6ba61374a1f836104a73f32f6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 4 14:42:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5FAB18345E; Mon, 4 Jul 2011 14:42:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 422 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 14:42:08 UTC DomainKey-Signature: q=dns; a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; s=prod; d=linkedin.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Sender:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-LinkedIn-Template:X-LinkedIn-Class:X-LinkedIn-fbl; b=FikhDE/P6P/Dm3PGGglu3CYIVbQTH+K31jfNgLrd0wYWLEUsF7+sXEWsOUPCjVaW KpqxF/IMQX2BIjc5SJsTTF4zIj03/G/ftEjmg+j94pbPZTv0pmIY71rmMrn02nHm DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=linkedin.com; s=proddkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; i=@linkedin.com; t=1309790105; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=WE7Wsl0ksU+QnqyTVTIXtB+udfo=; b=yn0NuOGfLtUOawcy/4GFJQl9W9tWbVD1ZCWenaHre/D/NHyKLmwA5MXOQelrM0V0 zdMe46LWZkJF4A5TcYxfhQ5TJxR5QDx5gbCLeGwln7iminFmtQMaFvFPqME6A2A1; Sender: messages-noreply@bounce.linkedin.com Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 14:35:05 +0000 (UTC) From: Charlie Milkey To: Message-ID: <710401114.9101178.1309790105796.JavaMail.app@ela4-bed39.prod> Subject: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_9101177_2021633842.1309790105794" X-LinkedIn-Template: invite_guest_59 X-LinkedIn-Class: INVITE-GUEST X-LinkedIn-fbl: s-qiO4m8jcfMci0GhWFgFmbuKOajcixn7Zk1F_4Gic3llLeZhZLTrG9J Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110769 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 14:42:08 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_9101177_2021633842.1309790105794 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LinkedIn ------------ I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - Charlie Charlie Milkey Assistant Manager at Walgreens Greater Minneapolis-St. Paul Area Confirm that you know Charlie Milkey https://www.linkedin.com/e/-kn1xg9-gppj7lq8-1y/isd/3423589058/Rz-lzFu0/ -- (c) 2011, LinkedIn Corporation ------=_Part_9101177_2021633842.1309790105794 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Confirm that you know Charlie

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------=_Part_9101177_2021633842.1309790105794-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 4 14:53:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60437183473; Mon, 4 Jul 2011 14:53:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=UcBYXy5ZaP8Ojeh0qaBHXD8ak2xviAXF0KdxGh4xL8w=; b=xlqsogSI9Te1/kTCA2/MYJhGxUTRwukhrn8jAC7wC+oQ+owD+7MR4x3XUa08J2K0vP HIPkq3Umko4Ujf+rY3PJqGa7x5lOtssK36SJGcIRSxW7Z5adsPPfKLS8yHhKzdVdcq+w rUHykY+GT2i/Vop2DS7jWtDMDQh/Oi2EV7udE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 10:53:26 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Dropbox and PayPal From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec5171ed593c4be04a73f87e1 Resent-Message-ID: <4MKgCB.A.PXH.nPdEOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110770 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 14:53:27 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec5171ed593c4be04a73f87e1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://blog.dropbox.com/?p=846 http://forums.dropbox.com/topic.php?id=2730 I use Dropbox and really love it. I don't use it for any secure info however just music and stuff. If I was concerned I would not use it on an unsecured network just as I wouldn't log into my bank at the coffeeshop, etc. Hackers and security are in a very fluid battle that is changing all the time. I am no genius so I try to be careful no matter how secure the service says it is. I change passwords (hard ones) often, etc also for my more private services. I also have a verified account with Paypal and so far have not had any issues. I watch it fairly closely as I do with anything like this. Change passwords often and use hard ones! I do this sometimes after any transaction. I am not a lawyer either but I will say that I get "good vibes" from Dropbox and like how they try to be transparent, remain as usable to me as they can and still be secure. Always room for improvements though so I will also be as proactive as I know how, defend my own security and keep as informed as I can. Looking forward to hearing what others have to say. best, jeff On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > A couple of services that I use as a musician a lot, have updated their > user agreements, > ones mentioned in the header of this post. > I tried reading the updated agreements, could not find anything suspicious. > On the other hand, regarding the Dropbox's latest update, there has been > really strong > discussion about it. > > Has anyone on the list had time to review these and what are your opinions? > > Greetings from Finland, > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > > --bcaec5171ed593c4be04a73f87e1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://blog.dropbox.com/?p=3D8= 46
http://= forums.dropbox.com/topic.php?id=3D2730

I use Dropbox and really = love it. I don't use it for any secure info however just music and stuf= f. If I was concerned I would not use it on an unsecured network just as I = wouldn't log into my bank at the coffeeshop, etc. Hackers and security = are in a very fluid battle that is changing all the time. I am no genius so= I try to be careful no matter how secure the service says it is. I change = passwords (hard ones) often, etc also for my more private services.

I also have a verified account with Paypal and so far have not had any = issues. I watch it fairly closely as I do with anything like this. Change p= asswords often and use hard ones! I do this sometimes after any transaction= .

I am not a lawyer either but I will say that I get "good vibes&quo= t; from Dropbox and like how they try to be transparent, remain as usable t= o me as they can and still be secure. Always room for improvements though s= o I will also be as proactive as I know how, defend my own security and kee= p as informed as I can.

Looking forward to hearing what others have to say.

best,
jeff



On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 10:2= 9 AM, Petri Lahtinen <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
A couple of servi= ces that I use as a musician a lot, have updated their user agreements,
ones mentioned in the header of this post.
I tried reading the updated a= greements, could not find anything suspicious.
On the other hand, regard= ing the Dropbox's latest update, there has been really strong
discussion about it.

Has anyone on the list had time to review these= and what are your opinions?

Greetings from Finland,

--
Petri Lahtinen

http://www.petrilahtinen.com=


--bcaec5171ed593c4be04a73f87e1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 4 15:01:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 937F6183465; Mon, 4 Jul 2011 15:01:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=8z8LZ50OSpbdcxz2vDm5UiPjHm+xfdSW81ntuFhQkaM=; b=CWASgKKBHpNdJsxIgo1nBwIchyGBfR4m9yweblcTep7OPX3J8qf7Hxaxzw06Jdkr3p ptQagf18UMobUSe5s+A1LR5LL47ez+kUWCQFnz4AKY9YA81DmWmwO1aPf91bE7PmxidV 9/qP1T+as2R3cNlcSJeTAgtIfePXgAea5xTSc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 11:01:39 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Dropbox and PayPal From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec53f8ebdfd442d04a73fa418 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110771 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 15:01:40 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec53f8ebdfd442d04a73fa418 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Petri I agree with Jeff re a 'good vibe'. I began using DropBox about 3 years ago and have been a convert ever since. I've recruited a few folks there and I'm up to a shade under 3 gig. The great thing about them is the= y never hassel you to buy storage be a member or do anymore than use them. S= o far no security issues and I sync across I think 4 computers now at one point or another. On another note I owe you an email re collab, will be in touch. Jim On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > http://blog.dropbox.com/?p=3D846 > http://forums.dropbox.com/topic.php?id=3D2730 > > I use Dropbox and really love it. I don't use it for any secure info > however just music and stuff. If I was concerned I would not use it on an > unsecured network just as I wouldn't log into my bank at the coffeeshop, > etc. Hackers and security are in a very fluid battle that is changing all > the time. I am no genius so I try to be careful no matter how secure the > service says it is. I change passwords (hard ones) often, etc also for my > more private services. > > I also have a verified account with Paypal and so far have not had any > issues. I watch it fairly closely as I do with anything like this. Change > passwords often and use hard ones! I do this sometimes after any > transaction. > > I am not a lawyer either but I will say that I get "good vibes" from > Dropbox and like how they try to be transparent, remain as usable to me a= s > they can and still be secure. Always room for improvements though so I wi= ll > also be as proactive as I know how, defend my own security and keep as > informed as I can. > > Looking forward to hearing what others have to say. > > best, > > jeff > > > > > On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Petri Lahtinen < > kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote: > >> A couple of services that I use as a musician a lot, have updated their >> user agreements, >> ones mentioned in the header of this post. >> I tried reading the updated agreements, could not find anything >> suspicious. >> On the other hand, regarding the Dropbox's latest update, there has been >> really strong >> discussion about it. >> >> Has anyone on the list had time to review these and what are your >> opinions? >> >> Greetings from Finland, >> >> -- >> Petri Lahtinen >> >> http://www.petrilahtinen.com >> >> > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --bcaec53f8ebdfd442d04a73fa418 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Petri I agree with Jeff re a 'good vibe'. =A0I began using DropBox = about 3 years ago and have been a convert ever since. I've recruited a = few folks there and I'm up to a shade under 3 gig. =A0The great thing a= bout them is they never hassel you to buy storage be a member or do anymore= than use them. =A0So far no security issues and I sync across I think 4 co= mputers now at one point or another.

On another note I owe you an email re collab, will be in tou= ch.

Jim

On Mon, = Jul 4, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com> wrote:
http://blog.dropbox.com/?p=3D846
http://forums.= dropbox.com/topic.php?id=3D2730

I use Dropbox and really love it. I don't use it for any secure inf= o however just music and stuff. If I was concerned I would not use it on an= unsecured network just as I wouldn't log into my bank at the coffeesho= p, etc. Hackers and security are in a very fluid battle that is changing al= l the time. I am no genius so I try to be careful no matter how secure the = service says it is. I change passwords (hard ones) often, etc also for my m= ore private services.

I also have a verified account with Paypal and so far have not had any = issues. I watch it fairly closely as I do with anything like this. Change p= asswords often and use hard ones! I do this sometimes after any transaction= .

I am not a lawyer either but I will say that I get "good vibes&quo= t; from Dropbox and like how they try to be transparent, remain as usable t= o me as they can and still be secure. Always room for improvements though s= o I will also be as proactive as I know how, defend my own security and kee= p as informed as I can.

Looking forward to hearing what others have to say.

best,

jeff

<= br>

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Petr= i Lahtinen <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
A couple of services th= at I use as a musician a lot, have updated their user agreements,
ones mentioned in the header of this post.
I tried reading the updated a= greements, could not find anything suspicious.
On the other hand, regard= ing the Dropbox's latest update, there has been really strong
discussion about it.

Has anyone on the list had time to review these= and what are your opinions?

Greetings from Finland,

--
Petri Lahtinen

http://www.petrilahtinen.com=





--
From Bro= oklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & = Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF In= ternational.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--bcaec53f8ebdfd442d04a73fa418-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 4 18:12:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1F8D183466; Mon, 4 Jul 2011 18:12:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Mark Hamburg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Boss SL-20 question (analog thru snob) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 11:12:41 -0700 Message-Id: To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110772 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 18:12:44 +0000 (UTC) Does anyone know whether the SL-20 runs the signal through without = digitizing it (at least when bypassed)? I'm fine with Boss buffered = bypass, but I'm currently into the pure analog signal path thing for at = least part of my rig. Thanks. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 4 20:26:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 747F9183466; Mon, 4 Jul 2011 20:26:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=NMOjvgQYPkwXgRTc3fhWdJisvujI+CseJhJZgwmPvyI=; b=gCQmICsURJ6dP/SwSdUwMWU2cI1+Y8HG6FtkS2jKZ6/92uVIL2yGrkzuP4Z6lnRza8 b6Tdnf4sB4ySluuPUgLsyo7MCcimHYGhaP/cwYRQWnHAoEMi1VU5AM+GszQbvCKhPDBL 5n7bMij+6VDMOhZqp2EYVOGcUwEyaFmduU+qo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 23:26:33 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Dropbox and PayPal From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015176f17bce4340a04a7442ecb Resent-Message-ID: <4PHMI.A.eCD.6HiEOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110773 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 20:26:34 +0000 (UTC) --0015176f17bce4340a04a7442ecb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Jim, the piece is underway. I found this guy, Yuri Landman, who has good material on preparing guitar o= n the web. :-) My trusty acoustic is now in serious modification... :-D 2011/7/4 Jim Goodin > Petri I agree with Jeff re a 'good vibe'. I began using DropBox about 3 > years ago and have been a convert ever since. I've recruited a few folks > there and I'm up to a shade under 3 gig. The great thing about them is t= hey > never hassel you to buy storage be a member or do anymore than use them. = So > far no security issues and I sync across I think 4 computers now at one > point or another. > > On another note I owe you an email re collab, will be in touch. > > Jim > > > On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > >> http://blog.dropbox.com/?p=3D846 >> http://forums.dropbox.com/topic.php?id=3D2730 >> >> I use Dropbox and really love it. I don't use it for any secure info >> however just music and stuff. If I was concerned I would not use it on a= n >> unsecured network just as I wouldn't log into my bank at the coffeeshop, >> etc. Hackers and security are in a very fluid battle that is changing al= l >> the time. I am no genius so I try to be careful no matter how secure the >> service says it is. I change passwords (hard ones) often, etc also for m= y >> more private services. >> >> I also have a verified account with Paypal and so far have not had any >> issues. I watch it fairly closely as I do with anything like this. Chang= e >> passwords often and use hard ones! I do this sometimes after any >> transaction. >> >> I am not a lawyer either but I will say that I get "good vibes" from >> Dropbox and like how they try to be transparent, remain as usable to me = as >> they can and still be secure. Always room for improvements though so I w= ill >> also be as proactive as I know how, defend my own security and keep as >> informed as I can. >> >> Looking forward to hearing what others have to say. >> >> best, >> >> jeff >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Petri Lahtinen < >> kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> A couple of services that I use as a musician a lot, have updated their >>> user agreements, >>> ones mentioned in the header of this post. >>> I tried reading the updated agreements, could not find anything >>> suspicious. >>> On the other hand, regarding the Dropbox's latest update, there has bee= n >>> really strong >>> discussion about it. >>> >>> Has anyone on the list had time to review these and what are your >>> opinions? >>> >>> Greetings from Finland, >>> >>> -- >>> Petri Lahtinen >>> >>> http://www.petrilahtinen.com >>> >>> >> > > > -- > *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodi= n > & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. > jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. > > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com > --=20 Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com --0015176f17bce4340a04a7442ecb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Jim, the piece is underway.
I found this guy, Yuri Landman, who h= as good material on preparing guitar on the web.
:-) My trusty acoustic = is now in serious modification... :-D

201= 1/7/4 Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>
Petri I agree wit= h Jeff re a 'good vibe'. =A0I began using DropBox about 3 years ago= and have been a convert ever since. I've recruited a few folks there a= nd I'm up to a shade under 3 gig. =A0The great thing about them is they= never hassel you to buy storage be a member or do anymore than use them. = =A0So far no security issues and I sync across I think 4 computers now at o= ne point or another.

On another note I owe you an email re collab, will be in tou= ch.

Jim


<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Jeff Duke <je= ffloops@gmail.com> wrote:
http://blog.dropbox.com/?p=3D= 846
http://forums.dropbox.com/topic.php?id=3D2730

I use Dropbox and really love it. I don't use it for any secure inf= o however just music and stuff. If I was concerned I would not use it on an= unsecured network just as I wouldn't log into my bank at the coffeesho= p, etc. Hackers and security are in a very fluid battle that is changing al= l the time. I am no genius so I try to be careful no matter how secure the = service says it is. I change passwords (hard ones) often, etc also for my m= ore private services.

I also have a verified account with Paypal and so far have not had any = issues. I watch it fairly closely as I do with anything like this. Change p= asswords often and use hard ones! I do this sometimes after any transaction= .

I am not a lawyer either but I will say that I get "good vibes&quo= t; from Dropbox and like how they try to be transparent, remain as usable t= o me as they can and still be secure. Always room for improvements though s= o I will also be as proactive as I know how, defend my own security and kee= p as informed as I can.

Looking forward to hearing what others have to say.

best,

jeff




On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Petri Lahtinen <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
A couple of servi= ces that I use as a musician a lot, have updated their user agreements,
ones mentioned in the header of this post.
I tried reading the updated a= greements, could not find anything suspicious.
On the other hand, regard= ing the Dropbox's latest update, there has been really strong
discussion about it.

Has anyone on the list had time to review these= and what are your opinions?

Greetings from Finland,

--
Petri Lahtinen

http://www.petrilahtinen.com=





-- From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim G= oodin & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will ben= efit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com



--
Petri Lahtinen

<= a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.petril= ahtinen.com

--0015176f17bce4340a04a7442ecb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 5 00:27:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C61FA183475; Tue, 5 Jul 2011 00:27:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=4tX8x+k3wyTpE20xnL8YK3FW5/hArAPWNoXn3AbyYSM=; b=K4+oa70ZV4aFY4eVbN2jEKtxlZXWfX14VyLVqnC3QaGRYIODwfych+CYgyt3OBo3ZT UniSmPSt6C1OqXFBcuBpQy+jnqsIE1CcqrXK0Vt6LQndu5n4hb5J3j4zIQsv5NZxmixG 2SDaP6URWVszT2rvWRynAV4Q+gbmS+wVSCpbY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 18:27:51 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Dropbox and PayPal From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110774 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 00:27:52 +0000 (UTC) Petri, Basically echoing the same sentiments here, with one adviso: If you're concerned about the security of Dropbox (and there is good reason to be, after this last go-around), you might look into using Spider Oak (https://spideroak.com/) which is significantly more secure (at least for now: like Jeff says, it's a moving target). PayPal is good once you get verified. Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > A couple of services that I use as a musician a lot, have updated their user > agreements, > ones mentioned in the header of this post. > I tried reading the updated agreements, could not find anything suspicious. > On the other hand, regarding the Dropbox's latest update, there has been > really strong > discussion about it. > > Has anyone on the list had time to review these and what are your opinions? > > Greetings from Finland, > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 5 01:18:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6B20183462; Tue, 5 Jul 2011 01:18:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3612 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Tue, 05 Jul 2011 01:18:51 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 20:09:52 -0400 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Still Waters photo essay on flickr Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110775 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 01:18:52 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I've posted another Photo Essay, entitled "Still Waters" -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157627118057460 Well, not completely still-:) This photo-essay contains images that were taken at wetlands locoed near my home in Framingham, MA. I particularly recommend Broadmoor Wildlife Sanctuary (run by the Mass Audubon. -- " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 5 03:27:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25EF3183464; Tue, 5 Jul 2011 03:27:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 336 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Tue, 05 Jul 2011 03:27:49 UTC X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Class: Innocent X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.54 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.5023 X-DSPAM-Signature: N/A X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mta5.brinkster.com From: "listmail" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: Dropbox and PayPal Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 20:19:55 -0700 Message-ID: <000001cc3ac2$82d9f3d0$888ddb70$@asyouthink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01CC3A87.D67BDF20" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQFpaIR9g1A+Qqt60nQvOYkDkmEaEJWisXsQ Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: <6LBORD.A.T7G.2SoEOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110776 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 03:27:50 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01CC3A87.D67BDF20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Related to DropBox: http://tinyurl.com/3be58og Sure wish someone would make a host-your-own equivalent. PayPal, short version: Arguably OK for very small, individual, person-to-person transaction. I'd stay far away from them for business use though. I've seen them hijack serious business money for months at a time without strong basis, more than once, up close and personal. (I used to do technology consulting work). HTH, C From: Petri Lahtinen [mailto:kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 7:30 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: Dropbox and PayPal A couple of services that I use as a musician a lot, have updated their user agreements, ones mentioned in the header of this post. I tried reading the updated agreements, could not find anything suspicious. On the other hand, regarding the Dropbox's latest update, there has been really strong discussion about it. Has anyone on the list had time to review these and what are your opinions? Greetings from Finland, -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01CC3A87.D67BDF20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Related to DropBox:

http://tinyurl.com/3be58og

Sure wish someone would make a host-your-own = equivalent.

 

PayPal, short version:

Arguably OK for very small, individual, person-to-person transaction. = I’d stay far away from them for business use though. I’ve = seen them hijack serious business money for months at a time without = strong basis, more than once, up close and personal. (I used to do = technology consulting work).

 

HTH,

C

 

 

From:= = Petri Lahtinen [mailto:kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com]
Sent: = Monday, July 04, 2011 7:30 AM
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: OT: Dropbox and = PayPal

 

A couple of services = that I use as a musician a lot, have updated their user = agreements,
ones mentioned in the header of this post.
I tried = reading the updated agreements, could not find anything = suspicious.
On the other hand, regarding the Dropbox's latest update, = there has been really strong
discussion about it.

Has anyone = on the list had time to review these and what are your = opinions?

Greetings from Finland,

--
Petri = Lahtinen

http://www.petrilahtinen.com

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01CC3A87.D67BDF20-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 5 03:54:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 200F8183460; Tue, 5 Jul 2011 03:54:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E128B04.50202@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 20:54:44 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Y2KX+1 International Live Looping Festivals join together in Florence, Rome and Santa Cruz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110777 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 03:54:54 +0000 (UTC) I'm very excited to announce that Massimo Liverani and Fabio Anile have joined with me and the Y2KX+1 loop festival staff to produce Italian editions of the Y2KX+1 International Live Looping Festivals in 2011 and 2012. The 4th edition of the Florence Live Looping Festival will be the first official Y2KX+1 International Live Looping Festival of this year and will be held this month on July 16th and 17th in Florence (I'll announce that formally in the next email to the list). Additionally, Y2KX+1 will be held in San Jose, San Francisco and Santa Cruz from October 12th through 17th. Next summer, Fabio Anile will hold a Rome (Roma) edition of Y2KX+2, tentatively set for July and Massimo will tentatively hold the 5th edition of the Florence (Firenze) and the California edition will also be held in the 2nd weekend of October as it is every year. I'm particularly excited about this partnership as Massimo and Fabio have both produced really beautiful and very professional live looping festivals in the past. I'm honored and privileged to be associated with these two wonderful artists and members of our looping community. **************************************************************************************************** We also hope that other cities around the world will join us in this endeavor to continue to promote live looping all over the planet. Anyone who is interested in producing an 'edition' of the festival is encouraged to contact us if they need any advice about how to produce a well run festival on very, very little income........lol......our specialty! yours, Rick Walker founder: Y2K International Live Looping Festivals "fine international live looping festivals since 2001"* _www.y2kloopfest.com_ * this is, of course, facetious From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 5 04:24:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A86018345F; Tue, 5 Jul 2011 04:24:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E1291F2.50500@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 21:24:18 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Y2KX+1 International Live Looping Festival: FLORENCE, ITALY July 16th and 17th, 2011 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110778 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 04:24:28 +0000 (UTC) The 4th edition of the *FLORENCE Y2KX+1 International Live Looping Festival * will be held in *Florence (Firenze, Italia) *on*July 16th *and*17th, 2011*. *_ http://tinyurl.com/Florence-Y2KX-1-Loopfest_* Produced by *Massimo Liverani*, the festival has a very strong two day lineup featuring Italy's *Giovanni Lami*, *Enrico Coniglio*, *Fabio Anile*, *Rob Easychord* and *Bassi Lele*. *Michael Peters *(who runs the Koln Live Looping Festival) and *Rainer Straschill* (who has also produced looping performances in Munchen) will represent Germany and there will be appearances by Singapores' *Randolf Arriola*, the UK's *Gareth Whittock* and *Willy Oteri* and *Dave Laczko* from the United States. Finally *Massimo Liverani* will provide iPhone interludes between performances. The festival will be held at the *Teatro Blu, Parco dell'Anconella Via Villamagna, Firenze *and *entry is FREE to all ages from 2100-2400 hours* This will be the first official association with the California Y2KX+1 International Live Looping Festivals. This week *Massimo LIverani* (Florence) and *Fabio Anile* (Rome) announced a formal partnership with *Rick Walker* (US) and the staff of the Y2KX+1 festival (*Steve Ucello, Maha Taitano, Eric DeArantanha, Trevor McClain *and *Soren Wagner)* to produce live looping festivals in *Florence, Rome *and*California *in*2011 *and*2012.* for more information, go to: _*www.livelooping.it *_ or *_www.officinecroma.it_* *Riccardo Camminatore (press secretary: Italian Live Looping Guild)* From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 5 07:36:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1551B183460; Tue, 5 Jul 2011 07:36:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 594 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Tue, 05 Jul 2011 07:36:50 UTC X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A0B020D.4E12BCBE.0201,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-libjamoibt: 1821 Message-ID: <24134333.34681309850814905.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 09:26:54 +0200 (CEST) From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: Massimo Liverani To: Subject: R: Y2KX+1 International Live Looping Festival: FLORENCE, ITALY July 16th and 17th, 2011 Cc: looppool@cruzio.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SenderIP: 85.47.237.138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110779 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 07:36:50 +0000 (UTC) Thanx Rick! I'm a little affected! It's a perfect message, so this Festival is becoming a great event! X fingers and hugs to you! Max Liver >----Messaggio originale---- >Da: looppool@cruzio.com >Data: 05/07/2011 6.24 >A: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" >Ogg: Y2KX+1 International Live Looping Festival: FLORENCE, ITALY July 16th and 17th, 2011 > >The 4th edition of the *FLORENCE Y2KX+1 International Live Looping >Festival * >will be held in *Florence (Firenze, Italia) *on*July 16th *and*17th, 2011*. >*_ >http://tinyurl.com/Florence-Y2KX-1-Loopfest_* > >Produced by *Massimo Liverani*, the festival has a very strong two day >lineup featuring >Italy's *Giovanni Lami*, *Enrico Coniglio*, *Fabio Anile*, *Rob >Easychord* and *Bassi Lele*. >*Michael Peters *(who runs the Koln Live Looping Festival) and >*Rainer Straschill* (who has also produced looping performances in >Munchen) will represent Germany >and there will be appearances by Singapores' *Randolf Arriola*, the UK's >*Gareth Whittock* and *Willy Oteri* and *Dave Laczko* from the >United States. > >Finally *Massimo Liverani* will provide iPhone interludes >between performances. > >The festival will be held at the *Teatro Blu, Parco dell'Anconella Via >Villamagna, Firenze *and *entry is FREE >to all ages from 2100-2400 hours* > >This will be the first official association with the California Y2KX+1 >International Live Looping Festivals. > >This week *Massimo LIverani* (Florence) and *Fabio Anile* (Rome) >announced a formal partnership with >*Rick Walker* (US) and the staff of the Y2KX+1 festival (*Steve Ucello, >Maha Taitano, Eric DeArantanha, Trevor >McClain *and *Soren Wagner)* to produce live looping festivals in >*Florence, Rome >*and*California *in*2011 *and*2012.* > >for more information, go to: >_*www.livelooping.it *_ or >*_www.officinecroma.it_* > >*Riccardo Camminatore >(press secretary: Italian Live Looping Guild)* > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 5 12:24:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F57C183461; Tue, 5 Jul 2011 12:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E13026E.6040801@soundscapes.us> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2011 08:24:14 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Galactic Travels Playlist #739 for June 2, 2011. References: <4DE8FB47.9080607@soundscapes.us> <35451E07-E4C0-43AD-BFD0-0E66BF114CD1@eijkhout.net> <33417151.33688.1307116405666.JavaMail.root@m08> In-Reply-To: <33417151.33688.1307116405666.JavaMail.root@m08> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6TrJuD.A.fdE.2JwEOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110780 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 12:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Thanks, Andy, for remembering and sharing that. Indeed, even if people don't listen to GT, they do like to check out the music listed in the playlists that I post. As to being local; Yes, it's a local show via FM but is world-wide via the station's web stream. The stream is real time so you have to tune in when GT is actually on the air. This is not an on-demand show. This is not very convenient for our European friends since GT starts on Friday at 4:04 am in the UK and 5:04 am on the continent. I've been told that someone records my shows and makes them available. I am not allowed to encourage this and I don't know where this site is located. But it does spread the word of EM. WDIY's stream is only 56kbps, i.e. the frequency response drastically starts to roll off at 6kHz and is gone by 6.5kHz so there really isn't any loss of sales to people who enjoy reasonable fidelity music. As to the podcasts; No, entire shows are not archived or podcast. WDIY doesn't have the resources to do that. The station does not have the facilities to hold the files nor the financial resources to pay for the royaly fees required. In our case, podcasts can only contain material that BMI, ASCAP, et al won't chase after us for fees. Therefore, there are only a few podcasts and they only contain material where the copyright owner is WDIY or a license has been granted by the copyright owner to podcast material free of charge. Podcasts, therefore, only contain special moments from the broadcast show where we have been granted a free license for podcast use. Such moments include concerts played live on GT and repackaged as a podcast by me long after the broadcast. As to having my own list; Yes, there is one but it is for people who are already fans. (There is also a MySpace page and a Facebook Fan Page.) However, since part of my reason for doing this show is to promote the people who create Electronic Music, I must let people know in places where potential fans may exist. LD is such a place since many electronic musicians use looping as a tool of their craft. The Ambient and Spacemusic genre can only continue if new fans can be cultivated. That can't happen if people don't hear about shows like GT on lists like LD. However, I reiterate my offer not to post here if that is the consensus. Kim always encouraged me to post my playlists here. I also post about Thought Radio, too. Cheers, Bill On 6/3/11 11:44 AM, andy butler wrote: > Not the first time that question has come up here. > > The poster, Bill, would have been happy to not > send it here, but a number of LDers said that they > liked the playlists as a suggestion for music that > they could check out. > > andy > > Victor Eijkhout wrote: >> On Jun 3, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Bill Fox wrote: >> >>> Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that >>> airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and >>> Bethlehem, >>> PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville >>> and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts >>> in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. >> >> I must be missing something. This seems to be a purely local, >> realtime broadcast, show. So why bother sending it to several mailing >> lists? >> >> Victor. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 5 15:52:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C41D6183463; Tue, 5 Jul 2011 15:52:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 77115.83082.bm@omp1051.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1309881141; bh=PD2osD6hImptOUqjAdys4L5tMrfOuKbl1SPFuF+Ds0I=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tsiobi2bOjqJZP/ECb0NOG6QLn3cY7//LWbVRfReZByvN3O4/mQ/LzpCSiXc2Enk7FDbXcEX4xtMPVz7dtmyI5OsyFhg4Paje7QkhUwZV/9nDqIKrpu8mBP3T4cwJ/VUYl+N3Sxu3q1mC0iGLQlYCb4IjJdPYP81OIerl71iqG4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VK+Vtd6ng9cdGlLHPgNLthYXCLunKRHXGgBC34WXtJSgKKFR5HF/9Va+iBBJgwh28Q3U88AOS8mJpn5Ut7VKS+d734p9zyMPxPX5u9E1ozswXq0ML2rEGRvLIbsQdWX/D0MmQnnYq3sWvWx8rUdEpaavUCm23yxg3XYlo24T/uE=; X-YMail-OSG: RCVYeMkVM1kFnD9eoQN24GvORx_GMcsE0TFV24v0tXGYQpP X3DT_slxI6Vsjx_nwmFnCqDfG2Tm1RbPLdOh.PmujPG.brxe1CsDzXaZyl3G uTIbEhEOhrsWknJbEI1HeoAbRyDpcVLzchsm13BytAmQ9i_QRACB94NpOpil 81AQdPwxxVwGiHbSydZLQBG9FY1RtenVqeH_vEQEnPASsd9WchrGigpuFHJW _fmSAsn4IiVcoBUbtjAUNer86UnfgXJ2EnPDRIbCfG_uI5nusTQTxkpzRSib 4Kl.kqVjWXVx9BgdriEZngmiECB_nmfGU7YHlIDx98ROGST6.HSWaYf2HOaG Ka.R.gNH1s7tzh8kLCAN8IXT5Bwch5.SKWXh5Bp9dKXS.d9EgDmMx4GsFe.c VoOuxAWVgu3Q- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.112.307740 Message-ID: <1309881141.16344.YahooMailClassic@web32503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 08:52:21 -0700 (PDT) From: bill bigrig Subject: dropbox and paypal To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110781 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 15:52:24 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, i'm going through something right now. Paypal shows a payment to a vendor, then a refund of that payment. On my bank statement, it shows 2 withdrawals on the same day. So, now instead of $0 I'm out $98 for this mistake. I'm trying to get it ironed out. We'll see Rig From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 5 22:23:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D26DC183461; Tue, 5 Jul 2011 22:23:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=ngUTTfDFVlpN+soQ0pqYFGzysA7AHj/+/cQuKf99zgk=; b=US8dQ2Nx+UuZZkj3zetCo1Kb7YIy4z7DynzfVDcU6yuDlkATjkWCwA1QevNyyG2Noi hHPQHuU/urAIECL3Z+V9w6P+YSNgJGVWoWEJQ7DqeVlep1+jSfdAi4YdZpmlLLXOomQi kKZxI4xc0ZRt8yg2JE8nwvEBp6Vl6i0q7gLKg= From: Phil Clevenger Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4-884899232 Subject: Re: Boss SL-20 question (analog thru snob) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 15:23:00 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <598984E1-B08B-4E2F-8EAD-95642F1F2641@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <23tlpB.A.3VE.L74EOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110782 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 22:23:07 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4-884899232 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well Mark, I just did the following diagnostic, which I read somewhere = was a reliable way to test for true bypass: Connected my guitar into the OUT jack of the SL-20. Connected the IN jack of the SL-20 to my amp. No sound was produced :( Confirmed that other items in my kit that are known to be TBP all passed = this same test, and produced dry sound. Further, some discourse on the Analogman site (appended below) = indicates that BOSS pedals and Ibanez pedals with these kinds of = electronic switches are difficult to make as TBP for some tech reasons, = so infer as you will. That said, the Slicer seems to handle my dry tone admirably with no = noticeable loss or mangling. Phil On Jul 4, 2011, at 11:12 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > Does anyone know whether the SL-20 runs the signal through without = digitizing it (at least when bypassed)? I'm fine with Boss buffered = bypass, but I'm currently into the pure analog signal path thing for at = least part of my rig. >=20 > Thanks. > Mark >=20 - - - - - =46rom http://www.analogman.com/boss.htm : Can you make my Boss Pedal true bypass?? In order to make an Ibanez, Boss or other electronically- switched pedal = true bypass, you need to drill a hole on top and mount a standard round = metal stomp switch. You also need to hot-wire the circuit so it is = always ON. We do not offer this mod as drilling and mounting the switch = is very time consuming and messy. Also these pedals do not suck tone = like a wah wah when off, as they use active electronic FET switching so = it is not much of a benefit. The Boss pedals seem to effect your tone a = bit less than the Ibanez pedals when OFF (less high end attenuation). An easier solution would be to use a TRUE BYPASS box, which is a small = box with IN, OUT, SEND, and RETURN jacks, and a switch. When OFF, the = signal goes direct from the IN to the OUT jack. When ON, the signal goes = through the SEND/RETURN effects loop (and the pedal(s) that you have in = that loop). These are handy for having around, you can even use it as an = AB box. We can build these out of the MXR PAPERWEIGHTS that we have, or = in generic cases. It is also possible to build multiple true bypass = boxes with multiple loops/switches. They are about $85 for a normal true = bypass box in a generic case. See my switchbox page for more info. =20 ~ eof ~= --Apple-Mail-4-884899232 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Well = Mark, I just did the following diagnostic, which I read somewhere was a = reliable way to test for true bypass:

Connected my = guitar into the OUT jack of the = SL-20.

Connected the IN jack of the SL-20 to my = amp.

No sound was produced = :(

Confirmed that other items in my kit that = are known to be TBP all passed this same test, and produced dry = sound.

Further, some discourse on the Analogman = site (appended below)  indicates that BOSS pedals and Ibanez pedals = with these kinds of electronic switches are difficult to make as TBP for = some tech reasons, so infer as you will.

That = said, the Slicer seems to handle my dry tone admirably with no = noticeable loss or = mangling.

Phil

On Jul = 4, 2011, at 11:12 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote:

Does = anyone know whether the SL-20 runs the signal through without digitizing = it (at least when bypassed)? I'm fine with Boss buffered bypass, but I'm = currently into the pure analog signal path thing for at least part of my = rig.

Thanks.
Mark


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Can you make my = Boss Pedal true bypass??

In order to make an Ibanez, Boss or = other electronically- switched pedal true bypass, you need to drill a hole on top and mount a standard round metal stomp switch. You also need to hot-wire=20 the circuit so it is always ON. We do not offer this mod as drilling and mounting the switch is very time consuming and messy. Also these pedals do not suck tone like a wah wah when off, as they use active electronic FET switching so it is not much of a benefit.=20 The Boss pedals seem to effect your tone a bit less than the Ibanez pedals when OFF (less high end attenuation).

An easier solution would be to use a TRUE BYPASS box, which is a small box with IN, OUT, SEND, and RETURN jacks, and a switch. When OFF, the signal goes direct from the IN to the OUT jack. When ON, the signal goes through the SEND/RETURN effects loop (and the pedal(s) that you have in that loop). These are handy for having around, you can even use it as an AB box. We can build these out of the MXR PAPERWEIGHTS that we have, or in generic cases. It is also possible to build multiple true bypass boxes with multiple loops/switches. They are about $85 for a normal true bypass box in a generic case. See my=20 =20 switchbox page for more info.  


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= --Apple-Mail-4-884899232-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 5 23:58:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6EB6E183462; Tue, 5 Jul 2011 23:58:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Mark Hamburg Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-921-890643026 Subject: Re: Boss SL-20 question (analog thru snob) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 16:58:44 -0700 In-Reply-To: <598984E1-B08B-4E2F-8EAD-95642F1F2641@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <598984E1-B08B-4E2F-8EAD-95642F1F2641@gmail.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110783 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 23:58:48 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-921-890643026 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks. It's almost certainly buffered bypass since all Boss pedals are = and I'm fine with that. I'm not a true bypass snob. The question is = whether it's an analog bypass when disengaged or whether it goes through = the A/D & D/A converters even then (i.e., DSP bypass). Since Roland/Boss = isn't known for using the highest quality converters, I'd rather not = have them in the signal chain when not using the effect. That said, my pedal board is looking pretty full. Though, of course, if = I spill to another board... Mark On Jul 5, 2011, at 3:23 PM, Phil Clevenger wrote: > Well Mark, I just did the following diagnostic, which I read somewhere = was a reliable way to test for true bypass: >=20 > Connected my guitar into the OUT jack of the SL-20. >=20 > Connected the IN jack of the SL-20 to my amp. >=20 > No sound was produced :( >=20 > Confirmed that other items in my kit that are known to be TBP all = passed this same test, and produced dry sound. >=20 > Further, some discourse on the Analogman site (appended below) = indicates that BOSS pedals and Ibanez pedals with these kinds of = electronic switches are difficult to make as TBP for some tech reasons, = so infer as you will. >=20 > That said, the Slicer seems to handle my dry tone admirably with no = noticeable loss or mangling. >=20 > Phil >=20 > On Jul 4, 2011, at 11:12 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: >=20 >> Does anyone know whether the SL-20 runs the signal through without = digitizing it (at least when bypassed)? I'm fine with Boss buffered = bypass, but I'm currently into the pure analog signal path thing for at = least part of my rig. >>=20 >> Thanks. >> Mark >>=20 >=20 > - - - - - >=20 > =46rom http://www.analogman.com/boss.htm : >=20 >=20 > Can you make my Boss Pedal true bypass?? >=20 > In order to make an Ibanez, Boss or other electronically- switched = pedal true bypass, you need to drill a hole on top and mount a standard = round metal stomp switch. You also need to hot-wire the circuit so it is = always ON. We do not offer this mod as drilling and mounting the switch = is very time consuming and messy. Also these pedals do not suck tone = like a wah wah when off, as they use active electronic FET switching so = it is not much of a benefit. The Boss pedals seem to effect your tone a = bit less than the Ibanez pedals when OFF (less high end attenuation). >=20 > An easier solution would be to use a TRUE BYPASS box, which is a small = box with IN, OUT, SEND, and RETURN jacks, and a switch. When OFF, the = signal goes direct from the IN to the OUT jack. When ON, the signal goes = through the SEND/RETURN effects loop (and the pedal(s) that you have in = that loop). These are handy for having around, you can even use it as an = AB box. We can build these out of the MXR PAPERWEIGHTS that we have, or = in generic cases. It is also possible to build multiple true bypass = boxes with multiple loops/switches. They are about $85 for a normal true = bypass box in a generic case. See my switchbox page for more info. =20 >=20 >=20 > ~ eof ~ --Apple-Mail-921-890643026 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Well Mark, I just did the = following diagnostic, which I read somewhere was a reliable way to test = for true bypass:

Connected my guitar into the OUT = jack of the SL-20.

Connected the IN jack of the = SL-20 to my amp.

No sound was produced = :(

Confirmed that other items in my kit that = are known to be TBP all passed this same test, and produced dry = sound.

Further, some discourse on the Analogman = site (appended below)  indicates that BOSS pedals and Ibanez pedals = with these kinds of electronic switches are difficult to make as TBP for = some tech reasons, so infer as you will.

That = said, the Slicer seems to handle my dry tone admirably with no = noticeable loss or = mangling.

Phil

On Jul = 4, 2011, at 11:12 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote:

Does = anyone know whether the SL-20 runs the signal through without digitizing = it (at least when bypassed)? I'm fine with Boss buffered bypass, but I'm = currently into the pure analog signal path thing for at least part of my = rig.

Thanks.
Mark


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Can you make my = Boss Pedal true bypass??

In order to make an Ibanez, Boss or = other electronically- switched pedal true bypass, you need to drill a hole on top and mount a standard round metal stomp switch. You also need to hot-wire=20 the circuit so it is always ON. We do not offer this mod as drilling and mounting the switch is very time consuming and messy. Also these pedals do not suck tone like a wah wah when off, as they use active electronic FET switching so it is not much of a benefit.=20 The Boss pedals seem to effect your tone a bit less than the Ibanez pedals when OFF (less high end attenuation).

An easier solution would be to use a TRUE BYPASS box, which is a small box with IN, OUT, SEND, and RETURN jacks, and a switch. When OFF, the signal goes direct from the IN to the OUT jack. When ON, the signal goes through the SEND/RETURN effects loop (and the pedal(s) that you have in that loop). These are handy for having around, you can even use it as an AB box. We can build these out of the MXR PAPERWEIGHTS that we have, or in generic cases. It is also possible to build multiple true bypass boxes with multiple loops/switches. They are about $85 for a normal true bypass box in a generic case. See my=20 =20 switchbox page for more info.  


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= --Apple-Mail-921-890643026-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 6 01:05:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A62DF183460; Wed, 6 Jul 2011 01:05:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_v6KuJzo6r2Q2aAPNpfuy5w)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-07-05_09:2011-07-06,2011-07-05,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1107050234 Message-id: <3DD0D07975E5459BB29FC58245880EB1@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <598984E1-B08B-4E2F-8EAD-95642F1F2641@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Boss SL-20 question (analog thru snob) Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2011 18:04:18 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110784 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 01:05:39 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_v6KuJzo6r2Q2aAPNpfuy5w) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT If you can't tell the difference with your ears, does it really matter then? t ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Hamburg To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 4:58 PM Subject: Re: Boss SL-20 question (analog thru snob) Thanks. It's almost certainly buffered bypass since all Boss pedals are and I'm fine with that. I'm not a true bypass snob. The question is whether it's an analog bypass when disengaged or whether it goes through the A/D & D/A converters even then (i.e., DSP bypass). Since Roland/Boss isn't known for using the highest quality converters, I'd rather not have them in the signal chain when not using the effect. That said, my pedal board is looking pretty full. Though, of course, if I spill to another board... Mark On Jul 5, 2011, at 3:23 PM, Phil Clevenger wrote: Well Mark, I just did the following diagnostic, which I read somewhere was a reliable way to test for true bypass: Connected my guitar into the OUT jack of the SL-20. Connected the IN jack of the SL-20 to my amp. No sound was produced :( Confirmed that other items in my kit that are known to be TBP all passed this same test, and produced dry sound. Further, some discourse on the Analogman site (appended below) indicates that BOSS pedals and Ibanez pedals with these kinds of electronic switches are difficult to make as TBP for some tech reasons, so infer as you will. That said, the Slicer seems to handle my dry tone admirably with no noticeable loss or mangling. Phil On Jul 4, 2011, at 11:12 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: Does anyone know whether the SL-20 runs the signal through without digitizing it (at least when bypassed)? I'm fine with Boss buffered bypass, but I'm currently into the pure analog signal path thing for at least part of my rig. Thanks. Mark - - - - - From http://www.analogman.com/boss.htm : Can you make my Boss Pedal true bypass?? In order to make an Ibanez, Boss or other electronically- switched pedal true bypass, you need to drill a hole on top and mount a standard round metal stomp switch. You also need to hot-wire the circuit so it is always ON. We do not offer this mod as drilling and mounting the switch is very time consuming and messy. Also these pedals do not suck tone like a wah wah when off, as they use active electronic FET switching so it is not much of a benefit. The Boss pedals seem to effect your tone a bit less than the Ibanez pedals when OFF (less high end attenuation). An easier solution would be to use a TRUE BYPASS box, which is a small box with IN, OUT, SEND, and RETURN jacks, and a switch. When OFF, the signal goes direct from the IN to the OUT jack. When ON, the signal goes through the SEND/RETURN effects loop (and the pedal(s) that you have in that loop). These are handy for having around, you can even use it as an AB box. We can build these out of the MXR PAPERWEIGHTS that we have, or in generic cases. It is also possible to build multiple true bypass boxes with multiple loops/switches. They are about $85 for a normal true bypass box in a generic case. See my switchbox page for more info. ~ eof ~ --Boundary_(ID_v6KuJzo6r2Q2aAPNpfuy5w) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
If you can't tell the difference with your ears, does it really matter then?
 
t
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: Boss SL-20 question (analog thru snob)

Thanks. It's almost certainly buffered bypass since all Boss pedals are and I'm fine with that. I'm not a true bypass snob. The question is whether it's an analog bypass when disengaged or whether it goes through the A/D & D/A converters even then (i.e., DSP bypass). Since Roland/Boss isn't known for using the highest quality converters, I'd rather not have them in the signal chain when not using the effect.

That said, my pedal board is looking pretty full. Though, of course, if I spill to another board...

Mark

On Jul 5, 2011, at 3:23 PM, Phil Clevenger wrote:

Well Mark, I just did the following diagnostic, which I read somewhere was a reliable way to test for true bypass:

Connected my guitar into the OUT jack of the SL-20.

Connected the IN jack of the SL-20 to my amp.

No sound was produced :(

Confirmed that other items in my kit that are known to be TBP all passed this same test, and produced dry sound.

Further, some discourse on the Analogman site (appended below)  indicates that BOSS pedals and Ibanez pedals with these kinds of electronic switches are difficult to make as TBP for some tech reasons, so infer as you will.

That said, the Slicer seems to handle my dry tone admirably with no noticeable loss or mangling.

Phil

On Jul 4, 2011, at 11:12 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote:

Does anyone know whether the SL-20 runs the signal through without digitizing it (at least when bypassed)? I'm fine with Boss buffered bypass, but I'm currently into the pure analog signal path thing for at least part of my rig.

Thanks.
Mark


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Can you make my Boss Pedal true bypass??

In order to make an Ibanez, Boss or other electronically- switched pedal true bypass, you need to drill a hole on top and mount a standard round metal stomp switch. You also need to hot-wire the circuit so it is always ON. We do not offer this mod as drilling and mounting the switch is very time consuming and messy. Also these pedals do not suck tone like a wah wah when off, as they use active electronic FET switching so it is not much of a benefit. The Boss pedals seem to effect your tone a bit less than the Ibanez pedals when OFF (less high end attenuation).

An easier solution would be to use a TRUE BYPASS box, which is a small box with IN, OUT, SEND, and RETURN jacks, and a switch. When OFF, the signal goes direct from the IN to the OUT jack. When ON, the signal goes through the SEND/RETURN effects loop (and the pedal(s) that you have in that loop). These are handy for having around, you can even use it as an AB box. We can build these out of the MXR PAPERWEIGHTS that we have, or in generic cases. It is also possible to build multiple true bypass boxes with multiple loops/switches. They are about $85 for a normal true bypass box in a generic case. See my switchbox page for more info.  


~ eof ~

--Boundary_(ID_v6KuJzo6r2Q2aAPNpfuy5w)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 00:59:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C1A1183464; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 00:59:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=vT9vkN3vVXssH3Ov7r/wQUs/sfIFjNPEFFf4aeKIi4A= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=3QvH1asLGT/yWpcnb6CItQ==:17 a=zo3iK6_IUZ1mPK8IJ_4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=3QvH1asLGT/yWpcnb6CItQ==:117 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: THIS IS A TEST Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 17:59:45 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110785 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 00:59:47 +0000 (UTC) ONLY A TEST From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 01:22:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1818183464; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 01:22:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=kwTGcjlzPAoP4wGfABqta4Zhe8NNeUPzjCFublYx2kc=; b=f4UJSpsJuRaC0wKtYRSqqr/fs84A6RQDF01+AWuNDTV4RzYodkgXiRvSmZo5qDrlNK 8FD6tWZ/51/d+4NCuhWK2TitGbjj/bFDTWbr2nH74HZFMtIOdl3+k4UEhc/JRUUa655h A5GILj7L8ioq2F829LjrKFtB2LzRpdOOiYNDA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 03:22:01 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: B44qCXAmOtGV2ZESl-yxSShQ39s Message-ID: Subject: Re: THIS IS A TEST To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba212461713e8704a7708cb5 Resent-Message-ID: <7K5f6B.A.rdG.OpQFOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110786 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 01:22:22 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba212461713e8704a7708cb5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Loud and clear here Ted! On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:59 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wro= te: > ONLY A TEST > > --=20 *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba212461713e8704a7708cb5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Loud and clear here Ted!

On Thu, Jul 7, 2= 011 at 2:59 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
ONLY A TEST




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--90e6ba212461713e8704a7708cb5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 01:23:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78D9D183464; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 01:23:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=SvNVgNY+hcqhq9AUSZy+Jw0NAx4B+U9yu4ygNyZuvKw=; b=TrOAcuNx9Sw022hJ3n03ei8KZDKQQLb/05DInv0lyLZCfkZfLsjybH7PrHfi2MArho GVgS03oiaDhWfaUKPWiezQ5JexOKUQzXHpDIghgMwdRlQaTkbW8jRQhPy1T0wVwnyvj5 V+9M+yoVnKqzOwF57NJUx1OMNgsJRlbOD5am0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 21:23:32 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: THIS IS A TEST From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec5016281b2fdb304a7709023 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110787 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 01:23:33 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec5016281b2fdb304a7709023 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 5x5 good buddy! On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 9:22 PM, mark francombe wrot= e: > Loud and clear here Ted! > > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:59 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn w= rote: > >> ONLY A TEST >> >> > > > -- > *Mark Francombe* > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > --bcaec5016281b2fdb304a7709023 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 5x5 good buddy!

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 9:= 22 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
Loud and clear here Ted!

On Thu, Jul 7, 2= 011 at 2:59 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
ONLY A TEST




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--bcaec5016281b2fdb304a7709023-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 01:30:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 79461183460; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 01:30:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JG7Wh5QmTWRTtTReSDBtNf6GH5bK9mPIedbagcyryVc=; b=YoP3CJKYRhjcRC1YCLZPP5YuEQRxe9au8OgOuOvQFyhfCfS8OofQ5+RpSpbUUYpARw DdFlud+HSTenMZYN0wnJt8tSWefY5SQ8r9ls9pu+ErVkv60KPo0WRwPk6dOPm6iYN/9z dZWFNsagJSg7805IidX7YxxsHqoFOwy8qAr8w= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 21:30:52 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: THIS IS A TEST From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <-1bJ2D.A.psG.NxQFOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110788 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 01:30:53 +0000 (UTC) Did I miss something? Iis Loopers moving to a FB gtoup instead of the list mail or is the group an add'l? Txj jim On 7/6/11, Jeff Duke wrote: > 5x5 good buddy! > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 9:22 PM, mark francombe > wrote: > >> Loud and clear here Ted! >> >> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:59 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn >> wrote: >> >>> ONLY A TEST >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> *Mark Francombe* >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.looop.no >> twitter @markfrancombe >> > --=20 Sent from my mobile device *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 01:42:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B275183465; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 01:42:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <9A57A484CF2C4A2D8ABDBDBCB64D7A1E@ELUK1> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: THIS IS A TEST Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 02:42:49 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3508.1109 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3508.1109 Resent-Message-ID: <_9Gph.A.q5G.R8QFOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110789 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 01:42:41 +0000 (UTC) I have to admit that in the last week I've wondered if this was the end of the mail list... -----Original Message----- From: Jim Goodin Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 2:30 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: THIS IS A TEST Did I miss something? Iis Loopers moving to a FB gtoup instead of the list mail or is the group an add'l? Txj jim On 7/6/11, Jeff Duke wrote: > 5x5 good buddy! > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 9:22 PM, mark francombe > wrote: > >> Loud and clear here Ted! >> >> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:59 AM, tEd ® KiLLiAn >> wrote: >> >>> ONLY A TEST >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> *Mark Francombe* >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.looop.no >> twitter @markfrancombe >> > -- Sent from my mobile device *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Thörn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 01:59:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F023183475; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 01:59:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+neDBnrGiyO82/7bneUzlAghcOwfI2OMG96srkH2vw4=; b=RIKGikuFjYcAKrAUCbyHyiCCH886AsqQNUKt+FD2Eg3g+jK+Mx0AQSi44Au90lQ7B/ YlikyB9IqdsO60kp2L2tIuoL40bTGVrVi/FhdGfelq5SmU6PDkX/KDRFbtVZsQWDbOVW SAo8qaqB6X1Cp4yoB9UdTOQP10Gw3D9zF7eHk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9A57A484CF2C4A2D8ABDBDBCB64D7A1E@ELUK1> References: <9A57A484CF2C4A2D8ABDBDBCB64D7A1E@ELUK1> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 21:59:38 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: THIS IS A TEST From: Jim Goodin To: Stephen Goodman , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110790 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 01:59:39 +0000 (UTC) Good so I'm not only one who is confuzed Stephen. This seems liKe an add'l FB group to allow for more content posting similiar to Post Minimlaism and Afterhours. On 7/6/11, Stephen Goodman wrote: > I have to admit that in the last week I've wondered if this was the end o= f > the mail list... > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Goodin > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 2:30 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: THIS IS A TEST > > Did I miss something? Iis Loopers moving to a FB gtoup instead of the > list mail or is the group an add'l? > > Txj jim > > On 7/6/11, Jeff Duke wrote: >> 5x5 good buddy! >> >> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 9:22 PM, mark francombe >> wrote: >> >>> Loud and clear here Ted! >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:59 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn >>> wrote: >>> >>>> ONLY A TEST >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Mark Francombe* >>> www.markfrancombe.com >>> www.ordoabkhao.com >>> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >>> http://www.looop.no >>> twitter @markfrancombe >>> >> > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodi= n & > Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. > jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. > > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com > > --=20 Sent from my mobile device *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 02:00:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 46B24183486; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 02:00:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 19:00:16 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Violet Xoxox Subject: Re: THIS IS A TEST Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110791 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 02:00:20 +0000 (UTC) >ONLY A TEST Hmmm. Are some of you not receiving list mail? We've been in the process of cleaning up the archive and made some changes a couple of weeks back to stop the horrific amount of spam from going to the archives (seems spammers had gotten hold of the archive address). But I'm wondering if the spam filtering may be too extreme and is affecting the list itself. Can anyone tell me what they've been experiencing? Take a look at the recent archives and see if there are messages you haven't been receiving, and if something's going haywire, we'll get it fixed. :) Violet xoxox From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 02:06:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 120FC183464; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 02:06:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=vT9vkN3vVXssH3Ov7r/wQUs/sfIFjNPEFFf4aeKIi4A= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=3QvH1asLGT/yWpcnb6CItQ==:17 a=_ak9i7-zAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=gB28bEPOAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=VFLBUs1HAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=EzJUUNTIAAAA:8 a=50Cz1CyOAAAA:8 a=l1qK0aSRAAAA:8 a=05vO-twWlZxr9h3RwHwA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=_l2Q2dtbBbIA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=zMq8AnxmSYkA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=3QvH1asLGT/yWpcnb6CItQ==:117 Message-Id: <23175064-A4D2-4EC5-ADE7-13A11E26B519@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: THIS IS A TEST Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 19:06:38 -0700 References: <9A57A484CF2C4A2D8ABDBDBCB64D7A1E@ELUK1> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110792 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 02:06:39 +0000 (UTC) Well, the cool thing about the FB page is that you can post music, =20 video and pictures. I would not like to ever think of the old LD list going away. But sometimes I have wish for a little loosening of the "no file =20 attachments" rule. Hopefully the two can coexist. Damn! I've spent the last 15 years up here (come this October). I feel more connected to some of you than I do to some of my own =20 biological family. Let's hope it keep going for a good while yet. On Jul 6, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Jim Goodin wrote: > Good so I'm not only one who is confuzed Stephen. This seems liKe an > add'l FB group to allow for more content posting similiar to Post > Minimlaism and Afterhours. > > On 7/6/11, Stephen Goodman wrote: >> I have to admit that in the last week I've wondered if this was the =20= >> end of >> the mail list... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jim Goodin >> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 2:30 AM >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: Re: THIS IS A TEST >> >> Did I miss something? Iis Loopers moving to a FB gtoup instead of the >> list mail or is the group an add'l? >> >> Txj jim >> >> On 7/6/11, Jeff Duke wrote: >>> 5x5 good buddy! >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 9:22 PM, mark francombe >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Loud and clear here Ted! >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:59 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> ONLY A TEST >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *Mark Francombe* >>>> www.markfrancombe.com >>>> www.ordoabkhao.com >>>> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >>>> http://www.looop.no >>>> twitter @markfrancombe >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> Sent from my mobile device >> >> *=46rom Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim = =20 >> Goodin & >> Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds >> from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. >> jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. >> >> woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com >> >> > > --=20 > Sent from my mobile device > > *=46rom Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim =20= > Goodin & > Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. > jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. > > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 02:28:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5BFA183466; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 02:28:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ImZ1BvcIwyrVMYtr8S0Xdd24NUwkb+6dfWaEhd1yja8=; b=XrJX5D8wDhgjVOta1NSdV/HOlvNLeBPHZxxr8D91G/klfbrb55F29ay4kCP9BN7UER xrSbAraBf7hLj6ClF/tpSd9ZlOjbwD83MXcEJZRju7tUmSfMybnRHaMD6seE8p25kP4i aFbrQdFn0pPaJGgS5/8eOzJvCESJv1VW/kQc8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 19:28:47 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: OT: Some recent free and nice guitar VSTs From: Art Simon To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64761e6066cdd04a7717a56 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110793 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 02:28:49 +0000 (UTC) --0016e64761e6066cdd04a7717a56 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Just a heads up on some nice freeware. I hadn't really checked for free guitar VST software in a while. I stumbled on the Guitar Amp Modelling forum, and I was pleasantly surprised to find three VSTs that I really like. NRR1 "was fully coded in C++ and spent 11 months in development. Its concept is loosely based on a *Soldano X88R* guitar amp" You'll need a cabinet simulation to use with it, I've been using the free OURcabinetsimulator . Acme Bar Gig's Shred is a complete suite with a cabinet emulator and effects. TSE808 is a well done simulation of the Ibanez Tube Screamer.that works nicely with NRR1. -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon --0016e64761e6066cdd04a7717a56 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just a heads up on some nice freeware. I hadn't really checked for free= guitar VST software in a while. I stumbled on the Guitar Amp Modelling forum, and I was pleasantly = surprised to find three VSTs that I really like.

NRR1 "was fully coded in C++ and= spent 11 months in development. Its concept = is loosely based on a=A0Soldano X88R= guitar amp"=A0 You'll need a cabinet simulation to use w= ith it, I've been using the free OURcabinetsimulator.

Acme Bar Gig's= Shred is a complete suite with a cabinet emulator and effects.

= TSE808 is a well done simulation of the Ibanez Tube Screamer.t= hat works nicely with NRR1.

--
Art Simon
simart@gmail.co= m
myspace [dot] com/artsimon
--0016e64761e6066cdd04a7717a56-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 02:50:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 700C8183474; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 02:50:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <23175064-A4D2-4EC5-ADE7-13A11E26B519@charter.net> References: <9A57A484CF2C4A2D8ABDBDBCB64D7A1E@ELUK1> <23175064-A4D2-4EC5-ADE7-13A11E26B519@charter.net> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 19:50:11 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Violet Xoxox Subject: Re: THIS IS A TEST Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <1Inn_C.A.d9H.m7RFOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110794 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 02:50:15 +0000 (UTC) Ted wrote: >But sometimes I have wish for a little loosening of the "no file >attachments" rule. Well, there's a VERY good reason for not allowing attachments, and we found out the hard way many years ago: viruses. All it takes is for one list member to be infected by a virus (or worm or trojan), and then once that person's computer is infected, the virus has access to their address book and starts sending itself (as an attachment) to everyone in it. And when the virus sends itself to Looper's Delight, everyone on the list [with a PC] who opens it gets infected. And people *do* open it because they think, "Oh, hey, look, my good friend List Member X has sent this attachment. I bet it's a really cool looping thing!" And then all of *those* infected computers start sending the virus to the list. It's a nightmare! Violet xoxox From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 05:04:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 302BF183462; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 05:04:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FJHOihbd8K4NGIQqzsKRnNzujphw+rYA9eqJwlooobU=; b=F6HBLCzhpPtKOVi1eiU4V0kJVc1kbdmi5Wo9PArONqowK554ApRCc2MJr/z9W0I41X dNVLu0RlZcBemJ3Z3o560AScHBQTe8iPHSZ9AgRzM4ZwXYT6+K2XeK8JkvSQgbri9Ls/ zgM8eCgaqaLNO9gGzO8MRFje+LoNwXtc+YbL8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <9A57A484CF2C4A2D8ABDBDBCB64D7A1E@ELUK1> <23175064-A4D2-4EC5-ADE7-13A11E26B519@charter.net> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 01:04:10 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: THIS IS A TEST From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110795 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 05:04:12 +0000 (UTC) Violet agreed re no attach rule. I have however only been receiving the FB group posts. I have not contributed to it, I do think its a good thing but would not like to see the list mail go away. Thx jim On 7/6/11, Violet Xoxox wrote: > Ted wrote: >>But sometimes I have wish for a little loosening of the "no file >>attachments" rule. > > Well, there's a VERY good reason for not allowing attachments, and we fou= nd > out the hard way many years ago: viruses. > > All it takes is for one list member to be infected by a virus (or worm or > trojan), and then once that person's computer is infected, the virus has > access to their address book and starts sending itself (as an attachment) > to everyone in it. And when the virus sends itself to Looper's Delight, > everyone on the list [with a PC] who opens it gets infected. And people > *do* open it because they think, "Oh, hey, look, my good friend List Memb= er > X has sent this attachment. I bet it's a really cool looping thing!" And > then all of *those* infected computers start sending the virus to the lis= t. > > It's a nightmare! > > Violet > xoxox > > > > --=20 Sent from my mobile device *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 07:27:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC774183464; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 07:27:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=7RxnmIkNMWG4x9HlL78D2zqqRzYMfMqPA6Gbznbhu0Y=; b=wd8gkIKU12hhqc6EdiVefvAIn4rgpmlgnRX4qeKN3GGrSzYlDlivvvT3fggbZot/OQ 0uovZeoPmyu+fJ5dBZmcyaDIhr+oZh72B5lTCZMyYxW2d//Kkjo2ug+mJbyE6ktp3Q1S y7/LCFU6fo+SbdSNmPdPS+3qdrZaC8N1n70lQ= Subject: Re: THIS IS A TEST References: <9A57A484CF2C4A2D8ABDBDBCB64D7A1E@ELUK1> <23175064-A4D2-4EC5-ADE7-13A11E26B519@charter.net> From: Simeon Harris Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPod Mail (8C148) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <2B3DC4B5-6F4F-42C0-B8CA-4F3BDF72B4B1@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 08:27:34 +0100 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 8C148) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110796 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 07:27:38 +0000 (UTC) I think the list is From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 07:31:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C401A183466; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 07:31:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=rLr/OvkDiyu4MIn6sPkzxm5F0PRe6str4ngo+YR3Few=; b=FSFr7j+qTmDbYADZmm2do/26rmf677G1xjAH6oV28buIAprpa18FqLy/sV9qV0fm+D s/v2RrWlIuhfG4DlqlTzJ6GkKqWCU10fuoHSUxpaXboTBIiDKV1AVOyYbtBTKJqXSRLQ nLdxkMIhDd3k/TBKkE0jEd2u1ocVGBW28mKM8= Subject: Re: THIS IS A TEST References: <9A57A484CF2C4A2D8ABDBDBCB64D7A1E@ELUK1> <23175064-A4D2-4EC5-ADE7-13A11E26B519@charter.net> From: Simeon Harris Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPod Mail (8C148) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <42FF33AB-5B4E-40F3-BCD6-49BF0B6DE0FB@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 08:31:02 +0100 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 8C148) Resent-Message-ID: <28fkeD.A.O9C.JDWFOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110797 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 07:31:21 +0000 (UTC) Stupid iPod I think the FB page is great for sharing vids etc, but the list is still the= place for long discussions about mobius scripting etc etc. I can't see why p= eople would stop using it.=20= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 08:01:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FD95183473; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 08:01:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 01:00:57 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Violet Xoxox Subject: Re: THIS IS A TEST Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110798 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 08:01:01 +0000 (UTC) Jim Goodin wrote: >Violet agreed re no attach rule. I have however only been receiving >the FB group posts. I have not contributed to it, I do think its a >good thing but would not like to see the list mail go away. Thx jim Gah, really? So no list mail at all??? Well crap, we've tightened one of these lug nuts a little too much. When did you stop receiving stuff from the list? Any details you (or anyone else) can provide will help. Wait ... if you're not getting list mail, how did you see my post? I just noticed earlier that the site is wonky, too. The wrong section is showing up as the entry page, and the actual entry page is showing up somewhere else. Fabulous. It must have gotten messed up when we regenerated the archive to remove spam. We updated a few more things, or tried to. One change that should have been really simple caused the entire site to go haywire when we regenerated the pages, and that's probably what caused the entry page to get farked up. We reversed the change right after, reverting to a backup copy. That was supposed to put things as they were before. Seems it didn't. Surprise! Websites ... never a dull moment. Restructuring this puppy is going to be a major undertaking. I never should have let Kim touch that website creation program. LOL I can't even figure out what he did in some spots. Or why. It's a mess. I'm not surprised he stopped updating it. (Yay, we just got the entry page changed back properly as I was getting ready to send this. So ignore the part where I mentioned that.) Violet xoxox From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 14:04:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10FED183465; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 14:04:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=nW7trXpk0DJHaI0IYbmj5fDGGg4MVFNjJEgUYm3wVi4=; b=PjzW9A8vZZc67O0h8Gk2wCpytWn3bxaVX4jHH4XksMbW/k6klFgp+inSjbeF5VaCqF SDYTiZS2a9soc+MEXEJrSfHbpSDy+KycIHRMIxDrFrog1i1kGHAQHsCu70xu00XnDbWB dZMl7FbqV0fdql+zBcFn5t4H/D/f/b/jHDQXY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <23175064-A4D2-4EC5-ADE7-13A11E26B519@charter.net> References: <9A57A484CF2C4A2D8ABDBDBCB64D7A1E@ELUK1> <23175064-A4D2-4EC5-ADE7-13A11E26B519@charter.net> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 16:04:19 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fLMsPk-FHZduqrVdM_6xT0Js9Gk Message-ID: Subject: Re: THIS IS A TEST To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8552a71a1d04a77b323b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110799 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 14:04:40 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8552a71a1d04a77b323b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 4:06 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wro= te: > Well, the cool thing about the FB page > Theres a Facebook page? No-one tells me nuffink... --=20 *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba6e8552a71a1d04a77b323b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 4:06 AM, tEd =AE = KiLLiAn <ted= killian@charter.net> wrote:
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Theres a Facebook page? No-one tells me nuffink...
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Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--90e6ba6e8552a71a1d04a77b323b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 14:11:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8AF8118345E; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 14:11:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=1b2X7W/SifksZeClH/haT1SUt4udqxFGF00pZw2/jJk= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=3QvH1asLGT/yWpcnb6CItQ==:17 a=LicG1Ivx2LROyAf-iXYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=3QvH1asLGT/yWpcnb6CItQ==:117 Message-Id: <39F89A88-32FF-4C28-8236-21B28750D58B@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <42FF33AB-5B4E-40F3-BCD6-49BF0B6DE0FB@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: THIS IS A TEST Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 07:11:20 -0700 References: <9A57A484CF2C4A2D8ABDBDBCB64D7A1E@ELUK1> <23175064-A4D2-4EC5-ADE7-13A11E26B519@charter.net> <42FF33AB-5B4E-40F3-BCD6-49BF0B6DE0FB@googlemail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110800 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 14:11:22 +0000 (UTC) Very much in agreement!!! On Jul 7, 2011, at 12:31 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > I think the FB page is great for sharing vids etc, but the list is > still the place for long discussions about mobius scripting etc etc. > I can't see why people would stop using it. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 14:17:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4C4B183466; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 14:17:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=Fhl4FtBiYuoFlCo9RLprNXOrm0/qKWJrsYKnT2MHbfA=; b=wxROEKb33p7xl2gI/8xtoWAqkIKhuyac+554Ps4X/9+U2QNj5kS1uDj5brmPJkPJ80 oJeDnm4DCmDgyBN5lmbMPfe57m/wTJIA8hleM/ElvOSp8lfD9X6zxoNCM0YR/uNfFUc/ 8MEEWUC3PBzXohdIuZPBPSRinxpsOMdWVPUzY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 16:16:59 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4kJbA4OeLyK79PqSjw2wVFUI9WU Message-ID: Subject: OT: more Logic hell... this time .. control assignments! To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba2124612a27a204a77b6019 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110801 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 14:17:23 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba2124612a27a204a77b6019 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Anyone know why I cant get my controll assignments for the transport buttons to work. Im using a 61 key Axiom keyboard. and Im positioned far away from my laptop.. so I need those rewind play and record buttons to work... I followed these... http://audio.tutsplus.com/tutorials/recording/how-to-configure-your-axiom-control-surface-with-logic-pro-9/ ...instructions, but they are VERY intermitant, if they work at all.. In fact I see some number on the transport increasing by one as I press the button ive assigned, and occasionaly (different for each button) it WILL fire off the required control and Logic will Play/stop etc... I have had nothing but trouble form Logic, am really hating it.. I kep plugging away because, a) I paid for it.. and b) its supposed to be good aint it? I just know that when ever I have to use it again, I spend more time configuring and fiddling than playing.. thats not good... bring back Reason, all is forgiven... Mark PS: I just got my PPL statement and noticed that Steve Reichs *Music for 18 Musicians (Section II) Is the 10th most played classical record of 2010... cool! M * -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba2124612a27a204a77b6019 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone know why I cant get my controll assignments for the transport button= s to work. Im using a 61 key Axiom keyboard. and Im positioned far away fro= m my laptop.. so I need those rewind play and record buttons to work... I f= ollowed these...
http://audio.tutsplus.com/tuto= rials/recording/how-to-configure-your-axiom-control-surface-with-logic-pro-= 9/

...instructions, but they are VERY intermitant, if they work at all.. I= n fact I see some number on the transport increasing by one as I press the = button ive assigned, and occasionaly (different for each button) it WILL fi= re off the required control and Logic will Play/stop etc...

I have had nothing but trouble form Logic, am really hating it.. I kep = plugging away because, a) I paid for it.. and b) its supposed to be good ai= nt it? I just know that when ever I have to use it again, I spend more time= configuring and fiddling than playing.. thats not good...

bring back Reason, all is forgiven...

Mark

= PS: I just got my PPL statement and noticed that Steve Reichs Music for= 18 Musicians (Section II) Is the 10th most played classical record of 2010= ... cool!

M



--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--90e6ba2124612a27a204a77b6019-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 14:58:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB251183461; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 14:58:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Q9LZA76TlgO8Gmb9G16oy3bQ2H1KA8CmZIfsE1RBEZBhlQpT1+a536YMaEAUEgdC; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 10:58:33 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: OT: more Logic hell... this time .. control assignments! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-902071779==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec7976e98421bd2e898157a42d6c5d89020a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: <83FM1.A.9sH.emcFOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110802 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 14:58:38 +0000 (UTC) --============_-902071779==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Mark, Try the "controller assignments" window (Logic->Preferences->Control Surfaces, be sure to "reset all controller assignments".. It's not difficult, and as always be sure to RTFM... -Chuck >Anyone know why I cant get my controll assignments for the transport >buttons to work. Im using a 61 key Axiom keyboard. and Im positioned >far away from my laptop.. so I need those rewind play and record >buttons to work... I followed these... >http://audio.tutsplus.com/tutorials/recording/how-to-configure-your-axiom-control-surface-with-logic-pro-9/ > >...instructions, but they are VERY intermitant, if they work at >all.. In fact I see some number on the transport increasing by one >as I press the button ive assigned, and occasionaly (different for >each button) it WILL fire off the required control and Logic will >Play/stop etc... > >I have had nothing but trouble form Logic, am really hating it.. I >kep plugging away because, a) I paid for it.. and b) its supposed to >be good aint it? I just know that when ever I have to use it again, >I spend more time configuring and fiddling than playing.. thats not >good... > >bring back Reason, all is forgiven... > >Mark > >PS: I just got my PPL statement and noticed that Steve Reichs Music >for 18 Musicians (Section II) Is the 10th most played classical >record of 2010... cool! > >M > > > >-- >Mark Francombe >www.markfrancombe.com >www.ordoabkhao.com >http://vimeo.com/user825094 >http://www.looop.no >twitter @markfrancombe -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix --============_-902071779==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: OT: more Logic hell... this time .. control assignment

Mark,

 Try the "controller assignments" window (Logic->Preferences->Control Surfaces,  be sure to  "reset all controller assignments"..

It's not difficult, and as always be sure to RTFM...

-Chuck



Anyone know why I cant get my controll assignments for the transport buttons to work. Im using a 61 key Axiom keyboard. and Im positioned far away from my laptop.. so I need those rewind play and record buttons to work... I followed these...
http://audio.tutsplus.com/tutorials/recording/how-to-configure-your-axiom-control-surface-with-logic-pro-9/

...instructions, but they are VERY intermitant, if they work at all.. In fact I see some number on the transport increasing by one as I press the button ive assigned, and occasionaly (different for each button) it WILL fire off the required control and Logic will Play/stop etc...

I have had nothing but trouble form Logic, am really hating it.. I kep plugging away because, a) I paid for it.. and b) its supposed to be good aint it? I just know that when ever I have to use it again, I spend more time configuring and fiddling than playing.. thats not good...

bring back Reason, all is forgiven...

Mark

PS: I just got my PPL statement and noticed that Steve Reichs Music for 18 Musicians (Section II) Is the 10th most played classical record of 2010... cool!

M



--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe


--

...
http://www.zmix.net

http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky

http://albumcredits.com/zmix
--============_-902071779==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 15:47:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C6FE183461; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 15:47:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BnYqe5qBNQlwkdwbpqYuEMyRhaQ8tM3pSAYztXQC/pM=; b=ETywZgcLbSheIV/Op88MNRTwHARHjLIKc3Sl+AJvCrOYNaKeathKyA1BzqfrhaozV9 1wJh9e5gt+oENrLKqsqWonB/3/0KvDi7ls8RhgQ2Oyx+Wh1BgNeb3sEe3uO8SHbGbArU 0jsEoTBN4AYu3r5NVH0KdxFi5uRUaJENfPwRc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <39F89A88-32FF-4C28-8236-21B28750D58B@charter.net> References: <9A57A484CF2C4A2D8ABDBDBCB64D7A1E@ELUK1> <23175064-A4D2-4EC5-ADE7-13A11E26B519@charter.net> <42FF33AB-5B4E-40F3-BCD6-49BF0B6DE0FB@googlemail.com> <39F89A88-32FF-4C28-8236-21B28750D58B@charter.net> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 11:47:22 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: THIS IS A TEST From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110803 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 15:47:24 +0000 (UTC) How about a link to FB page? Sylvain On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:11 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn w= rote: > Very much in agreement!!! > > On Jul 7, 2011, at 12:31 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > >> I think the FB page is great for sharing vids etc, but the list is still >> the place for long discussions about mobius scripting etc etc. I can't s= ee >> why people would stop using it. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 15:59:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B67E7183473; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 15:59:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZvX1DbgeGbf4z9myv9nIAoWlXQRxts2FAtscmkBwnvA=; b=AemGCashEV5TV/vnxKN4/KH+UfKE6ahHspg/32OH+ITbYrIiISq/ta7nkR/7TeFSwD s7EtZDOjH9VD5kAiMXMfjuBx/BpVq40ADtIHf5qX5gGhBxiiSrAhnfm0v6cy/1jNvWo3 Kubq0auxXTTSUcY8TfpbeDUC4vZG+Lrbdr0wc= Message-ID: <4E15D7E7.4040408@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 17:59:35 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: THIS IS A TEST References: <9A57A484CF2C4A2D8ABDBDBCB64D7A1E@ELUK1> <23175064-A4D2-4EC5-ADE7-13A11E26B519@charter.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110804 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 15:59:39 +0000 (UTC) Oh, Ted - attaching files is sooooo Nineties! If you want to share something with us, put it somewhere and send us a link. Music? Audioboo. Longer music? Soundcloud, Bandcamp. Pictures? Flickr, Picasa. Text documents etc.? Google Docs. Don't like any of this? Use your own website... Rainer (who likes the list just the way it is and because it is the way it is) > Ted wrote: > >> But sometimes I have wish for a little loosening of the "no file >> attachments" rule. -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 16:00:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3C53183461; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 16:00:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6OL/ZeU5mgRvyocNCLvY5oETmiZPi8Tr6/An4slrIYk=; b=ZcMGv/FsVmmHbxbRTAqkwFUFwTjCIaH48c8O18yiNGWnMaChHsSYR2h+aafQMZRXQw 0GBGyDdljNKfTYlJn7egaxMl+QOMwKEnKU15hfTh22KHpmzQ34ayxg0RiKX1OyYJNx03 5pob92Pv8FLEY+UNyFs+y/nh11JWkdKHei6z0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <9A57A484CF2C4A2D8ABDBDBCB64D7A1E@ELUK1> <23175064-A4D2-4EC5-ADE7-13A11E26B519@charter.net> <42FF33AB-5B4E-40F3-BCD6-49BF0B6DE0FB@googlemail.com> <39F89A88-32FF-4C28-8236-21B28750D58B@charter.net> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 17:00:36 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: THIS IS A TEST From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd48de44d3e2104a77cd1c1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110805 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 16:00:36 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd48de44d3e2104a77cd1c1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://www.facebook.com/groups/LoopersDelight?ap=1 On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > How about a link to FB page? > Sylvain > > --000e0cd48de44d3e2104a77cd1c1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www= .facebook.com/groups/LoopersDelight?ap=3D1

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Sylvain Poitras <= ;sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:
How about a link to FB page?
Sylvain

--000e0cd48de44d3e2104a77cd1c1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 16:08:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7218C183464; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 16:08:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=uGm/EZpPAhgfbDo4olK1jGDGAjhTFnmquzI9KzIO18o=; b=aWlyr+8OrS56rGq0gzjLyAIAf/EkGw7dFL6LQcsKcCFNjhlzKQdGtET7kqPo5M/wS/ 6d1r3FpLdtyzoZ1yEUMTeDVfLaPBVZ9w1IlR4QNYCm0JhqX+/Gj4ZUCLbPpC48j1R0Do Sc6odM8YGnytgi9ieo+WBwosjhqRuM7WDAaWc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 18:08:33 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1oJuaS1qrbEKsoJBswKrSgYt2uY Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: more Logic hell... this time .. control assignments! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e82c0ed4f7304a77cee93 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110806 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 16:08:55 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e82c0ed4f7304a77cee93 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey charles... I am RTFM.. following them like the bible... bit unclear frankely hence me using a better online tut......but as I said, its NOT working correctly... I might give your "reset all controller assignments suggestion" a go... but if its anything lke any other program Ive used, to reset the assignment I working on (deleting as Logic calls it) should be enough... I might be on to something else, it seems to be a issue with the Axiom keyboards... there seems to be some difference of opinion on the work around... trying all approaches as we speak.. but again a whole day wasted, reading fucking manuals than music making..! God!!! This program, and what Apple have done with Final Cut ProX, and I might be heading back to PC, or to Adobe at least... God help us all! Mark On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > ** > > Mark, > > Try the "controller assignments" window (Logic->Preferences->Control > Surfaces, be sure to "reset all controller assignments".. > > It's not difficult, and as always be sure to RTFM... > > -Chuck > > > > Anyone know why I cant get my controll assignments for the transport > buttons to work. Im using a 61 key Axiom keyboard. and Im positioned far > away from my laptop.. so I need those rewind play and record buttons to > work... I followed these... > > http://audio.tutsplus.com/tutorials/recording/how-to-configure-your- > axiom-control-surface-with-logic-pro-9/ > > ...instructions, but they are VERY intermitant, if they work at all.. In > fact I see some number on the transport increasing by one as I press the > button ive assigned, and occasionaly (different for each button) it WILL > fire off the required control and Logic will Play/stop etc... > > I have had nothing but trouble form Logic, am really hating it.. I kep > plugging away because, a) I paid for it.. and b) its supposed to be good > aint it? I just know that when ever I have to use it again, I spend more > time configuring and fiddling than playing.. thats not good... > > bring back Reason, all is forgiven... > > Mark > > PS: I just got my PPL statement and noticed that Steve Reichs* Music for > 18 Musicians (Section II) Is the 10th most played classical record of > 2010... cool! > > M > * > > > -- > *Mark Francombe* > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > > > > ** > > -- > > ** > > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > > http://albumcredits.com/zmix > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba6e82c0ed4f7304a77cee93 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey charles... I am RTFM.. following them like the bible... bit unclear fra= nkely hence me using a better online tut......but as I said, its NOT workin= g correctly... I might give your "reset all controller assignments sug= gestion" a go... but if its anything lke any other program Ive used, t= o reset the assignment I working on (deleting as Logic calls it) should be = enough...

I might be on to something else, it seems to be a issue with the Axiom = keyboards... there seems to be some difference of opinion on the work aroun= d... trying all approaches as we speak.. but again a whole day wasted, read= ing fucking manuals than music making..!

God!!!=A0 This program, and what Apple have done with Final Cut ProX, a= nd I might be heading back to PC, or to Adobe at least...

God help u= s all!


Mark

On Thu, Jul 7, 201= 1 at 4:58 PM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:

Mark,

=A0Try the "controller assignments" window (Logic->Preferences->Control Surfaces,=A0 be sure to=A0 "reset all controller assignments"..

It's not difficult, and as always be sure to RTFM...

-Chuck



Anyone know why I cant get my controll assignments for the transport buttons to work. Im using a 61 key Axiom keyboard. and Im positioned far away from my laptop.. so I need those rewind play and record buttons to work... I followed these...
http://audio.tutsplus.com/tutorials/recording/ho= w-to-configure-your-axiom-control-surface-with-logic-pro-9/

...instructions, but they are VERY intermitant, if they work at all.. In fact I see some number on the transport increasing by one as I press the button ive assigned, and occasionaly (different for each button) it WILL fire off the required control and Logic will Play/stop etc...

I have had nothing but trouble form Logic, am really hating it.. I kep plugging away because, a) I paid for it.. and b) its supposed to be good aint it? I just know that when ever I have to use it again, I spend more time configuring and fiddling than playing.. thats not good...

bring back Reason, all is forgiven...

Mark

PS: I just got my PPL statement and noticed that Steve Reichs Music for 18 Musicians (Section II) Is the 10th most played classical record of 2010... cool!

M



--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe


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--
Mark Fra= ncombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--90e6ba6e82c0ed4f7304a77cee93-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 16:11:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88FCF183466; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 16:11:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=bsYThkRExqA9YUtpzbq+HaA2juUmV4nPDsraP2Zk078=; b=EeF31zoi5YWJ/Po9wsRKutzKscDMzAE1dEdku7xG5xBmb/q0DCGiM4pTIVpi1zexLs nsPkJJSO5mDj3bGEuXnpV2c9O2Abh/YqL69zvKnIhwOj5/3nzuYRrklDgiKtuUrsYN3i ErQMMvcQI3j/bDY1SABolEIO2d67DgpVLCE0U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 18:11:03 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: kClnpN7felJD2ZrDuq3VfmctnbM Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: more Logic hell... this time .. control assignments! To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8552dfeee104a77cf7e0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110807 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 16:11:25 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8552dfeee104a77cf7e0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 OH and while Im at it, how the BLOODY HELL do I pitch a clip on the timeline? I can just regular old transpose, or reverse for than matter? On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 4:16 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Anyone know why I cant get my controll assignments for the transport > buttons to work. Im using a 61 key Axiom keyboard. and Im positioned far > away from my laptop.. so I need those rewind play and record buttons to > work... I followed these... > > http://audio.tutsplus.com/tutorials/recording/how-to-configure-your-axiom-control-surface-with-logic-pro-9/ > > ...instructions, but they are VERY intermitant, if they work at all.. In > fact I see some number on the transport increasing by one as I press the > button ive assigned, and occasionaly (different for each button) it WILL > fire off the required control and Logic will Play/stop etc... > > I have had nothing but trouble form Logic, am really hating it.. I kep > plugging away because, a) I paid for it.. and b) its supposed to be good > aint it? I just know that when ever I have to use it again, I spend more > time configuring and fiddling than playing.. thats not good... > > bring back Reason, all is forgiven... > > Mark > > PS: I just got my PPL statement and noticed that Steve Reichs *Music for > 18 Musicians (Section II) Is the 10th most played classical record of > 2010... cool! > > M > * > > > -- > *Mark Francombe* > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba6e8552dfeee104a77cf7e0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OH and while Im at it, how the BLOODY HELL do I pitch a clip on the timelin= e? I can just regular old transpose, or reverse for than matter?

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 4:16 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfranco= mbe.com> wrote:
Anyone know why I cant get my controll assi= gnments for the transport buttons to work. Im using a 61 key Axiom keyboard= . and Im positioned far away from my laptop.. so I need those rewind play a= nd record buttons to work... I followed these...
http://audio= .tutsplus.com/tutorials/recording/how-to-configure-your-axiom-control-surfa= ce-with-logic-pro-9/

...instructions, but they are VERY intermitant, if they work at all.. I= n fact I see some number on the transport increasing by one as I press the = button ive assigned, and occasionaly (different for each button) it WILL fi= re off the required control and Logic will Play/stop etc...

I have had nothing but trouble form Logic, am really hating it.. I kep = plugging away because, a) I paid for it.. and b) its supposed to be good ai= nt it? I just know that when ever I have to use it again, I spend more time= configuring and fiddling than playing.. thats not good...

bring back Reason, all is forgiven...

Mark

= PS: I just got my PPL statement and noticed that Steve Reichs Music for = 18 Musicians (Section II) Is the 10th most played classical record of 2010.= .. cool!

M



--
Mark= Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe



--
M= ark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--90e6ba6e8552dfeee104a77cf7e0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 17:19:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3120A183466; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 17:19:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Dh4FvZLmJQe6ZdImqU3nkN08hDAn4jR0xvkYa9Dt81U=; b=cnzJy5KHnCosam/wHZR2Vt01aiZNYZKag5nHbVx9lqZOHAnMxODcMQGFvGrtx4XGTO KQm5q4Mf83q2ZDzHHnXiRgvkkp8PsPALiYh5mIFYKLzIxcdYoen6+BJQZWzWDUIII77s CWjtIw6OY/1gheAxbl3gK9Ox9GHNHB1xMC7p4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 19:19:38 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: more Logic hell... this time .. control assignments! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <_m0C0D.A.i3B.rqeFOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110808 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 17:19:40 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 6:11 PM, mark francombe wrote: > OH and while Im at it, how the BLOODY HELL do I pitch a clip on the > timeline? I can just regular old transpose, or reverse for than matter? Three ways I know about in Logic that would answer your question: 1) If working with Apple Loops (guessing that is what you mean by "a clip"?) you double-click inside the global transposition track (guessing that is what you mean by "the timeline"?) to place a node. Then drag nodes up or down in pitch to transpose the playing loops. I think this is a tedious way and prefer simply lasso selecting certain apple loops in the arrange window and chose a value for the Transposition playback parameter in the Inspector to the left. If you have a long apple loop that needs to be transposed at a point within its duration I still prefer the faster arrange window method: simply cut the loop and transpose the coming part different! Crossfading for smooth transition over the cut (Inspector setting applied to selected part or using the crossfade mouse tool). 2) Open the audio file in the sample editor and transpose the file destructively (double-clicking the audio region). 3) Select the audio region and activate "Follow Tempo" by ticking the so called box in the Inspector on the left side (only works for audio you have recorded, not for "canned samples"). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 18:27:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9FE1C183466; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 18:27:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Fp/crbF/TJh7h1uTOIC2r6Ix3bkyfHCFmSa2jYRUEAE=; b=leiEkCx2H01HIWGkVtk8pkV5szFMbAZ1htZZXiW6h5K2/QFS3nPUGK5pzSx1h1v8LE smyOo67OZpg6oMRNumFzbrC6/EgczW4Fv9yg8Ef2H4ldjBLG8uFdLMq6SMMmPih8gdsl SY7A24adtIp3+jdxMeL80cIlWmVH0g+nXdLeo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 11:27:02 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Set-Up From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110809 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 18:27:03 +0000 (UTC) I sometimes worry I spend more time envisioning the perfect rig, cases, projection system, etc than I do actually playing, but I'm going to ask this anyway. It seems that the amount of gear I want to have available to play out with just keeps growing; between laptops, projectors, hardware and instruments, its become a lot of stuff to travel with and actually have usefully available for performance. So with that in mind, what are the solutions people have come up with for traveling and performing with a large variety of gear? I'm looking toward the most compact and easy to set up kind of tips so, anybody feeling like bragging about or sharing their solutions? Kevin --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 18:29:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36A93183465; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 18:29:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=OM54vQss2LjuW2W2k7N/djDBhekRVcUCafZIwn0Juxo=; b=lS40u8rJRCBUuze2LdmKJmiYpNLhVueBM5LgVMsWc/pJrrQqMTlSsrBX0JDcPnxX1b Ejz6Sr45E3IhH6S78lEo7GtjFTfdkoPt9M+Vc5F1PdhJPzwz8bTJ31yqLiZwfCdEkcCq d2+nEgk7CWbZJ/ZE7Ud/wjE8oObeyLIDXtKXA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 20:29:29 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Set-Up From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <-1IWnC.A.A4C.KsfFOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110810 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 18:29:30 +0000 (UTC) Instrument, laptop, audio interface, MIDI control surface, tooth brush, sleeping bag. Per Boysen On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > I sometimes worry I spend more time envisioning the perfect rig, > cases, projection system, etc than I do actually playing, but I'm > going to ask this anyway. > > It seems that the amount of gear I want to have available to play out > with just keeps growing; between laptops, projectors, hardware and > instruments, its become a lot of stuff to travel with and actually > have usefully available for performance. > > So with that in mind, what are the solutions people have come up with > for traveling and performing with a large variety of gear? > > I'm looking toward the most compact and easy to set up kind of tips > so, anybody feeling like bragging about or sharing their solutions? > > Kevin > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble= . > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision:=C2=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 18:39:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 728AF183464; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 18:39:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GLVXfWk40EB2YQbV0dCErITpqTamSRL6Vf1doMPQavY=; b=nxTNrQ+0jf7ab2ybHdFLPZsqNcxWY0Iz4cvl2cCRdNVj7cZ9Gs5NaKuC4gfifmScfH WiS/F5xjkxuCyigdrYiB7zNC6KUPMdBXCclo+W3v4nq+2zHhgDGjpbHY07fMxYPPRIiX 36TmSPKMUZQffP75X9ysUWYKY223g/bkaDN1s= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 11:39:41 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Set-Up From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110811 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 18:39:42 +0000 (UTC) Any more details? Like how you arrange things, cabling, furniture or particular gear, etc. And how do you connect the toothbrush? Kevin On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Instrument, laptop, audio interface, MIDI control surface, tooth > brush, sleeping bag. > > Per Boysen > > > > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando > wrote: >> I sometimes worry I spend more time envisioning the perfect rig, >> cases, projection system, etc than I do actually playing, but I'm >> going to ask this anyway. >> >> It seems that the amount of gear I want to have available to play out >> with just keeps growing; between laptops, projectors, hardware and >> instruments, its become a lot of stuff to travel with and actually >> have usefully available for performance. >> >> So with that in mind, what are the solutions people have come up with >> for traveling and performing with a large variety of gear? >> >> I'm looking toward the most compact and easy to set up kind of tips >> so, anybody feeling like bragging about or sharing their solutions? >> >> Kevin >> -- >> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a >> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all troubl= e. >> >> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >> >> Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org >> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >> >> > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 19:59:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2BAF8183465; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 19:59:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BZpBAj9Vxn5osqSA8Uju0U9XLFIM2MyW82g1/s06egM=; b=mcwoALraXSXV9/VlpVtPkiEigwsqko7HDWK9SHUZnunKBFpVj1yf351LcWUHOj/Ymz 7qMp0twxYwxdXvmBiUkA+ikyzOKAbZJijiPlpYb55u6Rt8R2jJ2sR3Mf1rIAWtr1Cpbi 5q+r3Krd0/xysvblUmKUKHD1DtF6Fz97n6LAA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <9A57A484CF2C4A2D8ABDBDBCB64D7A1E@ELUK1> <23175064-A4D2-4EC5-ADE7-13A11E26B519@charter.net> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 15:59:07 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: THIS IS A TEST From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <7ld8dB.A.eDE.LAhFOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110812 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 19:59:07 +0000 (UTC) Violet this thread began by Ted was the only non FB related email form the list I have received in several days. Not sure how this one gOt through. Jim On 7/7/11, Jim Goodin wrote: > Violet agreed re no attach rule. I have however only been receiving > the FB group posts. I have not contributed to it, I do think its a > good thing but would not like to see the list mail go away. Thx jim > > On 7/6/11, Violet Xoxox wrote: >> Ted wrote: >>>But sometimes I have wish for a little loosening of the "no file >>>attachments" rule. >> >> Well, there's a VERY good reason for not allowing attachments, and we >> found >> out the hard way many years ago: viruses. >> >> All it takes is for one list member to be infected by a virus (or worm o= r >> trojan), and then once that person's computer is infected, the virus has >> access to their address book and starts sending itself (as an attachment= ) >> to everyone in it. And when the virus sends itself to Looper's Delight, >> everyone on the list [with a PC] who opens it gets infected. And people >> *do* open it because they think, "Oh, hey, look, my good friend List >> Member >> X has sent this attachment. I bet it's a really cool looping thing!" An= d >> then all of *those* infected computers start sending the virus to the >> list. >> >> It's a nightmare! >> >> Violet >> xoxox >> >> >> >> > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodi= n > & > Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. > jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. > > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com > --=20 Sent from my mobile device *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 20:01:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E78E7183465; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 20:01:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=v97XIGj1ZHSMthLQ0UYlVUidjzTSNETx+U+34nC5prA=; b=wBaIuxUBMXJTgjyP1UpJClLk4pWdo9MrWVg8bRoI8vI6XpjrnqsqouG6r/zpWKyTl2 ce2C4xJ7MONdrzCW3S16bo4mHf4wmSo+S220b4WpEbMNwf+m/Qm3rFhPmP2yZxDzaMSu e+pLVgedewZKW/msrMfGO45vYbFh7mKmQ4mPo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 22:01:30 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ags-yyO0Xbqq1YgPtgpJ99SBHQY Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: more Logic hell... this time .. control assignments! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8cd4065c4e04a78030b4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110813 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 20:01:51 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8cd4065c4e04a78030b4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Interesting things to try here.. thx as always Per... a question of terms here.. when you say Apple Loops... Is this what I would call "midi loops" as in the premade loops that come with Logic, for use in their synths? What of "Samples" as in audio files.. can I not transpose these in the "timeline" (I tried destructive editting in the sample editor and found this less than usefull, as I had to re-launch the project to Undo!!! I come from a PS world where Acid was so intuative for manipulating audio... I just chopped up my sound file on the timelime, and added or subtracted semitones per chucnk to "play" the sample.. Logic surely has a way to do this, but im damned if I can find it! Mark On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 6:11 PM, mark francombe > wrote: > > OH and while Im at it, how the BLOODY HELL do I pitch a clip on the > > timeline? I can just regular old transpose, or reverse for than matter? > > > Three ways I know about in Logic that would answer your question: > > 1) If working with Apple Loops (guessing that is what you mean by "a > clip"?) you double-click inside the global transposition track > (guessing that is what you mean by "the timeline"?) to place a node. > Then drag nodes up or down in pitch to transpose the playing loops. I > think this is a tedious way and prefer simply lasso selecting certain > apple loops in the arrange window and chose a value for the > Transposition playback parameter in the Inspector to the left. If you > have a long apple loop that needs to be transposed at a point within > its duration I still prefer the faster arrange window method: simply > cut the loop and transpose the coming part different! Crossfading for > smooth transition over the cut (Inspector setting applied to selected > part or using the crossfade mouse tool). > 2) Open the audio file in the sample editor and transpose the file > destructively (double-clicking the audio region). > 3) Select the audio region and activate "Follow Tempo" by ticking the > so called box in the Inspector on the left side (only works for audio > you have recorded, not for "canned samples"). > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba6e8cd4065c4e04a78030b4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Interesting things to try here.. thx as always Per... a question of terms h= ere.. when you say Apple Loops... Is this what I would call "midi loop= s" as in the premade loops that come with Logic, for use in their synt= hs? What of "Samples" as in audio files.. can I not transpose the= se in the "timeline" (I tried destructive editting in the sample = editor and found this less than usefull, as I had to re-launch the project = to Undo!!! I come from a PS world where Acid was so intuative for manipulat= ing audio... I just chopped up my sound file on the timelime, and added or = subtracted semitones per chucnk to "play" the sample.. Logic sure= ly has a way to do this, but im damned if I can find it!


Mark





On Thu, Jul = 7, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 6:11 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote: > OH and while Im at it, how the BLOODY HELL do I pitch a clip on the > timeline? I can just regular old transpose, or reverse for than matter= ?


Three ways I know about in Logic that would answer your question:

1) If working with Apple Loops (guessing that is what you mean by "a clip"?) you double-click inside the global transposition track
(guessing that is what you mean by "the timeline"?) to place a no= de.
Then drag nodes up or down in pitch to transpose the playing loops. I
think this is a tedious way and prefer simply lasso selecting certain
apple loops in the arrange window and chose a value for the
Transposition playback parameter in the Inspector to the left. If you
have a long apple loop that needs to be transposed at a point within
its duration I still prefer the faster arrange window method: simply
cut the loop and transpose the coming part different! Crossfading for
smooth transition over the cut (Inspector setting applied to selected
part or using the crossfade mouse tool).
2) Open the audio file in the sample editor and transpose the file
destructively (double-clicking the audio region).
3) Select the audio region and activate "Follow Tempo" by ticking= the
so called box in the Inspector on the left side (only works for audio
you have recorded, not for "canned samples").

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub




--
M= ark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--90e6ba6e8cd4065c4e04a78030b4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 20:24:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3F53183477; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 20:24:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UVHywxO28WrN6tyIFKT2KB6ytRlODCXTwjzdjzZfaog=; b=DiXIWffn4Ox5SNRygXhSIysRQiqvQUyU6K2204RPX6Yetcf6Mjld2wZxWRnuodWd2j nUwK1GmScabVenpKcfb4tVO3gJUY9jx2+act3xM0tB+TX3rxDoLUlC8nb6U5q7gD091g KDb6F8rRwhScIkdm/eW+Eyd2UrKsM0bBQktTY= Message-ID: <4E1614D2.8070601@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 22:19:30 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Set-Up References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110814 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 20:24:04 +0000 (UTC) Kevin Cheli-Colando schrieb: > It seems that the amount of gear I want to have available to play out > with just keeps growing; between laptops, projectors, hardware and > instruments, its become a lot of stuff to travel with and actually > have usefully available for performance. > > So with that in mind, what are the solutions people have come up with > for traveling and performing with a large variety of gear? > Two things: 1. integrated devices. A distortion stomp box and a filter rack effect doesn't make sense, a multi-effect device does. Typically, the highest degree of multi-purpose integration is a (I'm not saying "laptop") computer. 2. find out what you need and leave everything else at home. Optional: 3. if 2 sometimes changes, make your setup modular. If you already use a computer, this is not so much a consideration, but stilll, you might have an optional monitor or faderbox that you don't need under all circumstances. And finally: 4. the package is one of the most important aspects when it comes to portability. Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 20:27:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC10F183466; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 20:27:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=b2oB+QZohIE3fvTpvCg5g+eyHR2fJIyE5XAA0Lxz7gw=; b=KQlUYr69q5ljc8t+XDF8vrpjega1fkcAlNZugc8K8bKNlsHkozfe3CJw7XfIPsgXrk 4VbxSG6Zt+1fhlJ9pUyDBiAlt21BxLQRccspic7DAQA7+k/4i3TyB6s4lPOk5zjjxVgf ZzZOJO4YcMt9e0Bf9DNf4JmVSQ68GfQECbG3k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 22:27:40 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: more Logic hell... this time .. control assignments! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <-LIe4B.A.WpE.9ahFOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110815 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 20:27:41 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:01 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Interesting things to try here.. thx as always Per... a question of terms > here.. when you say Apple Loops... Is this what I would call "midi loops" as > in the premade loops that come with Logic, for use in their synths? Might be. Apple Loops behave like audio clips that can follow tempo and be transposed. But here comes more to complicate it: There are green and blue apple loops. The blue is and will forever be just audio loops but the green apple loops can be UNPACKED and then gives you the instrument setup originally used to create that loop: The virtual instrument, its channel strip loaded with the right effect plugins and a midi region on the track to drive the notes. This is nifty if you find a green loop that you like but that you wish would have "just a little less compression, distortion" or whatever. Drop it on an instrument track to set of the UNPACKING. > What of > "Samples" as in audio files.. can I not transpose these in the "timeline" (I > tried destructive editting in the sample editor and found this less than > usefull, as I had to re-launch the project to Undo!!! I come from a PS world > where Acid was so intuative for manipulating audio... I just chopped up my > sound file on the timelime, and added or subtracted semitones per chucnk to > "play" the sample.. Logic surely has a way to do this, but im damned if I > can find it! That's exactly how it can be done in Logic as well! - Scissors tools: chop, chop. - Marker tool: select slice, or bunch of slices with the shift button down. - Hold down mouse over the Transform field and pick the new pitch. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 20:31:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDB98183473; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 20:31:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=gw8bnuHtPz8c3gUJ8L4foouOkdHIuGAzL13HzWDPALQ=; b=qBlVWDVRIAgs/U1a8crfnHCsWjhGiG1SG+7dx1rZBU1rjfcmVcrXYL9sLnumZZ291q QL2XbjWi8rziwMqHyZTbQvsXwbDIdU6r3bJl+3AykpvokWCNzdnRMQHXvJW+E7kunFs8 PIuYpgJZu50wfti/xIzDEUv5cv3VxpzR/MhSU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 22:30:39 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: XKqUoqKZ0xw8ANADn_LHYXNW42k Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: more Logic hell... this time .. control assignments! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba61358843f5d604a78098e3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110816 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 20:31:00 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba61358843f5d604a78098e3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > - Hold down mouse over the Transform field and pick the new pitch. Its this Transform field that must be the holy grail of which I seek! Weirdly my company name is Transform... -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba61358843f5d604a78098e3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Per Boy= sen <perboysen@= gmail.com> wrote:
- Hold down mouse over the Transform field and pick the new pitch.

Its this Transform field that must be the holy grail of which= I seek!
Weirdly my company name is Transform...



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Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--90e6ba61358843f5d604a78098e3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 20:41:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0E50183474; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 20:41:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=W87mwnWGXyfFyzhBlMI7O/OVS/x5LlEJ4ukers082Jk=; b=IRT0mrGRyQQ680c2p/M+Dj6UZlqnu+I2LTCZyb9C6O8HNJnq10l4mgWMNkECRWiksC WTGHuuHMeCioUyDnMk/dlEdnpwgKK+AtFw13fpgF7N69WR9+tQngFcpFHRv7k2o40T+i CfELYT2AYujwnMikmQLZdKGeH7gmpgqaq3OhY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 22:41:20 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: more Logic hell... this time .. control assignments! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110817 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 20:41:21 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:30 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Its this Transform field that must be the holy grail of which I seek! > Weirdly my company name is Transform... Espionage! Jobs got his eyes on you now. Watch your steps carefully! Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 20:55:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6235183475; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 20:55:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=awY0gsla9HccPJiUbN/361JIZSmuq9ue6LuG3gYs7ok=; b=QN06uF2qOvZSE8QGQb9HJJxNrVwsbuKcho7IjmEOJYGPG1+Vv3qAQ4PAlmL6RrS8Io WJTeIkj+pHQKUtTCQFsvXB1gyO1zTCfRErqSZAjqKAHp+mdkJ7P1puNdFGRqWaAj3l1V mZ6IwlUo7im1Nps9biM8riw+4lHk4cPtHkR+k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E1614D2.8070601@googlemail.com> References: <4E1614D2.8070601@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 13:55:25 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Set-Up From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110818 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 20:55:25 +0000 (UTC) > And finally: > 4. the package is one of the most important aspects when it comes to > portability. > I suppose I should have been clearer in my request. This is really what I want to know about. What traveling packages have people created for maximum efficiency, expandability, gear, etc. I want to borrow the ideas (that I know will be fantastic) of the people on this list. As for myself, I have a deep love for a well designed case. I scour the thrift shops looking for odd cases that can be re-purposed. My favorite such find is a box that was used to sell Amway windows and its a large, 2.5x2.5x1 case that opens at the top and the front face folds down. There is a small shelf that was inside and now I have a very portable lighting rig that carries two oil projectors, a light bar and a smoke machine, nearly all of which can be operated without removing them from the case. And I bought it for $5 (the case that is). Carry on, Kevin --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 21:07:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54218183486; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 21:07:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 23:07:23 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110707210723.274450@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Subject: Re: OT: more Logic hell... this time .. control assignments! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+PrRwLpuOPQb6XUxhSqDILEF11P3tFX08F66W00g wAqVxGB5RCOr782XDYlL64AiNk4GsihZpqHA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: PxIkfQRcPTR+Bp4oyjMw9q85c2tpZAsq Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110819 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 21:07:26 +0000 (UTC) Marc, Logic + controller = hell... Sounds very familiar... Good luck! Buzap -- NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 21:11:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A5DE9183486; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 21:11:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 23:11:15 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110707211115.274460@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4E1614D2.8070601@googlemail.com> Subject: Re: Set-Up To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18Flx8q+SoFM6JAVPb4VTK66BQdlQuEqolLlRRNhn 7CLGIucN81ZuKfeG2kOHPlQpq+crfPQIq9sQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: wRkuewoYbmwoVNtpkzZLWdpPUzc4clHM Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110820 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 21:11:17 +0000 (UTC) I think the main decision is either: 1.) All-in-one solution: Integrate everything in a nice rack/footboard etc. 2.) Modular solution: Stay flexible by combining several components according to current need. -- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 21:13:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 887AA183479; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 21:13:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 23:13:01 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110707211301.274460@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Subject: Re: New Video - "Cigarettes & Sidewalks" by The Wandering Madman To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+Tb0cIoAqT57s/fO3NQsQ6ObZj/Zipyo1x0UZ0cb QxI0mu+pKDMlfLZkJlXT33i1kKZFf03nvv7Q== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: aRMvdgBeYW0tXM1ommdpLvB8amthc1vz Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110821 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 21:13:05 +0000 (UTC) Just took the time to view it. Really beautiful! Buzap PS: did you use click track on the headphones in the beginning? -- NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 21:18:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 68688183479; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 21:18:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fRiXSJQg8TK6UW/QxsUfJQuzvdRtfg0aJWAnKU4fAEE=; b=bgw922sQGfhabM07F6qbWeeQHrWi8FsHJJNo8S+qnUHXvee2muraGq1zDDN9+PTCEk lHc7WpEbgrgOSndjvSsDvtiqKiMhq5s9k8ce4ndcgDjwXIXWz9VxNhpebH41iCqk7Jh4 Ek+SmbDPFMxZG//QhoWlV67Y64ryr8/3iHpaU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4E1614D2.8070601@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 23:18:14 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Set-Up From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110822 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 21:18:16 +0000 (UTC) Ok Kevin, now I understand better what you're up for. Over here I used to use a Peli Flightcase like http://customcases.dk/cases/peli-cases/peli-case-1650.html but as flight regulation began kicking against my wallet I reorganized and went for a more modular setup where things can be packed to optimize the free check-in luggage wight. If going overseas two bags are allowed and that's no problem. The challenge is to travel here in Europe where you only get one trunk for free. If I can do a concert with only a flute I pack it together with audio interface and laptop into my cabin bag and check in everything else in a sturdy suitcase of normal size. If I'm about to play guitar or Stick it is a bit more tricky. I have a good Stick case that can also take my Gordius MIDI foot pedalboard plus the most heavy things that can be crammed into the Stick case wrapped up in bubble plastic material. Then I check in the Stick case and bring 8 kg of whatever left over as hand luggage on the plane in a bag of exactly the maximal size allowed. This means there is not much weight for cloths so I have to wear a double setup of cloths on the plane and some detergent in the bag. Cables can be borrowed on location and a shaving machine can be exchanged for light and small plastic on-time razors. Since my hand controlled midi mixer is ultra small and takes its power directly from USB I can skip over bringing a power supply for this. When I arrive at the destination airport I repack my things, taking out everything of the Stick case and put it inside my cabin luggage bag. This to make the Stick case easier to carry (I have a loose strap that I can put through its handle to carry it hanging on one shoulder as well) and also to assemble all heavy stuff in the cabin bag that has wheels. Oh, a good trick is to weight one's hand luggage without the computer since you will be asked anyway to take out your computer before examining the hand luggage weight at the airport. So the computer can actually be the two kilo that go above the allowed 8 kg (making 10 kg *after* the security check). And finally, you are allowed to bring heavy things in your pockets too - if they are not listed among the stuff that are forbidden inside the cabin. Audio interface and power supply transformers are typical such *pocket stuff*. Per On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: >> And finally: >> 4. the package is one of the most important aspects when it comes to >> portability. >> > > I suppose I should have been clearer in my request. =C2=A0This is really > what I want to know about. =C2=A0What traveling packages have people > created for maximum efficiency, expandability, gear, etc. =C2=A0I want to > borrow the ideas (that I know will be fantastic) of the people on this > list. > > As for myself, I have a deep love for a well designed case. =C2=A0I scour > the thrift shops looking for odd cases that can be re-purposed. =C2=A0My > favorite such find is a box that was used to sell Amway windows and > its a large, 2.5x2.5x1 case that opens at the top and the front face > folds down. =C2=A0There is a small shelf that was inside and now I have a > very portable lighting rig that carries two oil projectors, a light > bar and a smoke machine, nearly all of which can be operated without > removing them from the case. =C2=A0And I bought it for $5 (the case that > is). > > Carry on, > > Kevin > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble= . > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision:=C2=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 21:25:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D69E18347A; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 21:25:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=PHUPLD1zOffFxGofUvN81fGM5DzVZyZ75qsDNatfuhI=; b=Kkd/03+t3jwZc4Bzv2FkHToYZueO5TiJvYVqY/8RhcF3a9dmZesjivyDi9RZpEwNm9 +Pl4MdgmqKXaxQcIgfdrk+hdoiDONbKhpsCgYpGoU9f2DWDU89Ec+1Ci8H7CBeMaTWBR KUyRLH9gKI8IeGipH/F1+4J4m/NTa1v0KFWvI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20110707210723.274450@gmx.net> References: <20110707210723.274450@gmx.net> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 23:25:33 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: more Logic hell... this time .. control assignments! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <03H8iB.A.SLG.ORiFOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110823 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 21:25:34 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > > Logic + controller = hell... > Sounds very familiar... I used Logic + MIDI controller Faderfox LV1 and Gordius LG2 at Precences Electronique and it worked perfect. I first tried to set up the 8 channel surround live audio + prepared tracks in Mainstage but it wasn't possible due to some bug (that now is fixed). For the next surround gig in January I will be trying Ableton Live instead. It seems Live is very stable and efficient now on the new i7 MBP's. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 21:31:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84F5B183493; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 21:31:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 23:31:43 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" Message-ID: <20110707213143.274460@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Gear shopping advice please! (pedal, controller, guitar, looper on budget) To: "LD LoopersDelight" X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+oEop66huoDmH6gS+jI1L/U4jPxnLDPy8t7WJtG+ nnqItsJn3g9ljFkEnXjLLnLxDBZRnreIHt/g== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: jRMjf0MDbUk7BZ8oyWkn5NFsZ2hlN0o/ Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110824 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 21:31:47 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks I'm preparing a purchase requests for some musical gear at work. It needs to be budget & no-nonsense. And it needs to be available in Europe. Do you have better choices/recommendations than these? - Cheap & effective looper (or should I insist on investing more?)Boss RC-3 Looper (190EUR) - Midi controller (for Ableton Live: keys, buttons, vol knobs): Akai MPK Mini (90EUR) http://www.thomann.de/gb/akai_mpkmini.htm - Foot pedal (USB enough, Logidy better? available in Europe?): Behringer FCB1010 (110EUR) - Guitar (Strat type for 180-400EUR): Fender Squier? I don't know what/how much will be approved. But I have to submit the request soon and would appreciate your judgement. Thanks Buzap -- NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 22:02:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1E4218349E; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 22:02:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=O1lr33fcZOiRVEbdBk4Ij8G+Z2NtNt2EwWC5vfNrtbQ=; b=R5cAbVC+JjnISpwWgeN/0Hx+js2WXn6mh5M6/dgg/ZU7Irlis35QtPrCuHx0avOmff 2Fw9+wZx31/X65/KNsWtTR57oaMPus2Kh0aB6OjhaeI7/PcRA8+RqpVFSMO1A/wgequN ud5aQaQCm2KlpR38MVyzJdEo/Tkwl+gXm8b0o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20110707213143.274460@gmx.net> References: <20110707213143.274460@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 00:02:35 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Gear shopping advice please! (pedal, controller, guitar, looper on budget) From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110825 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 22:02:36 +0000 (UTC) speaking of the RC-3 is that the only currently available battery looper? i have a gig coming up out in the woods and ill be taking the AER mobile amp and thought about taking an compact battery looper anybody using it? one thing i recall not liking from the RC-2 is that it seemed to correct automatically your timing which i despise with passion is this the same deal? thanx Luis On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Hi folks > > I'm preparing a purchase requests for some musical gear at work. > It needs to be budget & no-nonsense. And it needs to be available in Europe. > > Do you have better choices/recommendations than these? > - Cheap & effective looper (or should I insist on investing more?)Boss RC-3 Looper (190EUR) > - Midi controller (for Ableton Live: keys, buttons, vol knobs): Akai MPK Mini (90EUR) > http://www.thomann.de/gb/akai_mpkmini.htm > - Foot pedal (USB enough, Logidy better? available in Europe?): Behringer FCB1010 (110EUR) > - Guitar (Strat type for 180-400EUR): Fender Squier? > > I don't know what/how much will be approved. But I have to submit the request soon and would appreciate your judgement. > > Thanks > Buzap > > -- > NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren! > Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone > > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 22:23:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5BE85183492; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 22:23:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=osj32zGdTrO0ERHF5pxls7VM/VntyFwG2p6uS8VExek=; b=j7z4rSCWQtEtOSLMTj8uT5noxmUxfIFpkh0hOSEehZTSFGRytlgq2qHWxTCu9aj05v SOB0fyQ/qDhyjGs3d4UdP4gQxMUJIV1bUvEy7sB6rgj1PfecgrjfWWKkBEyOUVE+uy7F TJvC97lGdFDCU3wL0pF6lqLFfyajDJx2WmvEM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E1614D2.8070601@googlemail.com> References: <4E1614D2.8070601@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 18:23:33 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Set-Up From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f390cd6d8b404a7822a25 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110826 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 22:23:34 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307f390cd6d8b404a7822a25 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Speaking of multi effect units has anyone tried out the Line 6 HD 500? 48 sec (mono) looper w/dedicated buttons, all of the M13/9 fx(?) says M class fx, plus amp modeling unlike the 13/9. No one carries them locally and I didn't want to buy it just to try it, only to return it. http://line6.com/podhd/multi-effects/ j On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Kevin Cheli-Colando schrieb: > >> It seems that the amount of gear I want to have available to play out >> with just keeps growing; between laptops, projectors, hardware and >> instruments, its become a lot of stuff to travel with and actually >> have usefully available for performance. >> >> So with that in mind, what are the solutions people have come up with >> for traveling and performing with a large variety of gear? >> >> > Two things: > 1. integrated devices. A distortion stomp box and a filter rack effect > doesn't make sense, a multi-effect device does. Typically, the highest > degree of multi-purpose integration is a (I'm not saying "laptop") computer. > 2. find out what you need and leave everything else at home. > > Optional: > 3. if 2 sometimes changes, make your setup modular. If you already use a > computer, this is not so much a consideration, but stilll, you might have an > optional monitor or faderbox that you don't need under all circumstances. > > And finally: > 4. the package is one of the most important aspects when it comes to > portability. > > Rainer > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > > --20cf307f390cd6d8b404a7822a25 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Speaking of multi effect units has anyone tried out the Line 6 HD 500? 48 s= ec (mono) looper w/dedicated buttons, all of the M13/9 fx(?) says M class f= x, plus amp modeling unlike the 13/9. No one carries them locally and I did= n't want to buy it just to try it, only to return it. http://line6.com/podhd/multi-effects/<= br>
j

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Rai= ner Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
Kevin Cheli-Colando schrieb:
It seems that the amount of gear I want to have available to play out
with just keeps growing; between laptops, projectors, hardware and
instruments, its become a lot of stuff to travel with and actually
have usefully available for performance.

So with that in mind, what are the solutions people have come up with
for traveling and performing with a large variety of gear?
=A0
Two things:
1. integrated devices. A distortion stomp box and a filter rack effect does= n't make sense, a multi-effect device does. Typically, the highest degr= ee of multi-purpose integration is a (I'm not saying "laptop"= ) computer.
2. find out what you need and leave everything else at home.

Optional:
3. if 2 sometimes changes, make your setup modular. If you already use a co= mputer, this is not so much a consideration, but stilll, you might have an = optional monitor or faderbox that you don't need under all circumstance= s.

And finally:
4. the package is one of the most important aspects when it comes to portab= ility.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer

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--20cf307f390cd6d8b404a7822a25-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 22:25:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64536183491; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 22:25:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=fjKO//PT09M2iVOtri1VzGAX9AadiGFwH71mhdHVoA8=; b=Dh117Neyen2fflduYUbQTTGwXDfuc0oNdfnTtNajI4aB8my/xGAiTeaDK3gdFCo11v jxKUIK9wkAclm0hkUwbc9u1CHCEU5yxqAsk/qB7U/SneU9WhRgee2s3/CVLo6tESsSfp IRUv0IIsBTdy3JWJFILuO4rcm7tuLR1rkwUXg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 00:25:08 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: NpovBs3Oa9Yf9uv1-qFCgUhcDSg Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: more Logic hell... this time .. control assignments! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8cd4b1848c04a782311a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110827 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 22:25:29 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8cd4b1848c04a782311a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Pssst... I still cant find Transform track thingy... On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:41 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:30 PM, mark francombe > wrote: > > Its this Transform field that must be the holy grail of which I seek! > > Weirdly my company name is Transform... > > > Espionage! Jobs got his eyes on you now. Watch your steps carefully! > > Per > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba6e8cd4b1848c04a782311a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pssst... I still cant find Transform track thingy...


On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:41 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com><= /span> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10= :30 PM, mark francombe <mark@m= arkfrancombe.com> wrote:
> Its this Transform field that must be the holy grail of which I seek!<= br> > Weirdly my company name is Transform...


Espionage! Jobs got his eyes on you now. =A0Watch your steps carefull= y!

Per




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M= ark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--90e6ba6e8cd4b1848c04a782311a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 22:40:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B81A183493; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 22:40:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XXqlhuXuo1Bb3hJmv2dO7GySnxu4xUpm2+vyx6Zs9Y0=; b=McIs8spBCsRfpc0M8eA4QyhdRicYhFbcQAy5w537aru3xwhZq1DkdB5xSOYkyvDMkD axWDWYH6idr6bUfJ2CWknZ7gkR4kjzIWW018mwEyRZk0Ko8r8JganYZv7PsUXqGwZ+e/ tcsyeE5UmrTcSdSIT/kEVL4hwTE/WcAD0ckIs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 00:40:39 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: more Logic hell... this time .. control assignments! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <7IbDqD.A.BgH.nXjFOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110828 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 22:40:40 +0000 (UTC) Its not a track. It is a little tick box labeled "Transposition" located inside the Inspector box to the left (arrange window's general channel strip). Drag the mouse upwards or downwards. For octaves use the fast drop-down meny. On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 12:25 AM, mark francombe wr= ote: > Pssst... I still cant find Transform track thingy... > > > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:41 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:30 PM, mark francombe >> wrote: >> > Its this Transform field that must be the holy grail of which I seek! >> > Weirdly my company name is Transform... >> >> >> Espionage! Jobs got his eyes on you now. =C2=A0Watch your steps carefull= y! >> >> Per >> > > > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 22:43:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3DFC183498; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 22:43:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0DCK9vCs7WipPBLgko0JpYFgMYkhbtJg7aXSlUVv/tk=; b=lNcCa9uwJ4n8Rqm6qavs5qIoSlsQ1rtoz5zeFo6+AK4nuvL44nverfHDNZJdXKHVVg EPP555jkfTXmYUxqJbkWYn6bf6wmB33X8zyNxsu7G3Ij9YyolqUMQNgiiMErGTP5csnT T28HULWljq59kNVBgwQeocqvZHqmTCzSfOBg8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 00:43:47 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: more Logic hell... this time .. control assignments! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110829 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 22:43:48 +0000 (UTC) Do you mean the global Transposition Track at the top? If so, you have to enable it first: "View > Global Tracks". But this is tedious. Better stay with your Acid-like method. Per On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Its not a track. It is a little tick box labeled "Transposition" > located inside the Inspector box to the left (arrange window's general > channel strip). Drag the mouse upwards or downwards. For octaves use > the fast drop-down meny. > > > > On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 12:25 AM, mark francombe = wrote: >> Pssst... I still cant find Transform track thingy... >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:41 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:30 PM, mark francombe >>> wrote: >>> > Its this Transform field that must be the holy grail of which I seek! >>> > Weirdly my company name is Transform... >>> >>> >>> Espionage! Jobs got his eyes on you now. =C2=A0Watch your steps careful= ly! >>> >>> Per >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mark Francombe >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.looop.no >> twitter @markfrancombe >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 23:17:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC08F18348A; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 23:17:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=gPo0FRbWNh8z/F1FaTjekCfXL4jAFaHgRgjv05SiIqk=; b=wI8FxgtfNeRoQQUT5MVDvWTVqzDunQXrBZBvi3BEkzMCqHh2lc8mCXZTSMTOC9/+mE v0lqe59SDPDz9/yBbRODYMEp9maSC4yno6sMSc7QLntAlxpnsXMq7deK0Ok2RjPYhR8y 0ttAjWb+iHj1fFLC7xIhSqNamLLLX+JUGEy3U= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 16:17:49 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Set-Up From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110830 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 23:17:51 +0000 (UTC) Hi there, I used to suffer with this too. There was a time when my live performance rig required 4 trips to the car. Now it requires just 1. I got a very large rolling suitcase from one of the Mexican markets in San Francisco's Mission district. I keep my gear is wrapped in towels to save on space. The most fragile gear is in boxes with bubble wrap. They are stacked in order of breakability/replaceability. The dealbreaker for me is that I needed something I could carry on public transportation. That was a big element of me switching primary instruments, too. The only downside is that it still takes me 20 minutes to set it all up. I've looked into pedalboards. What I really need is an enormous pedalboard that packs up into a rolling case that also has room for floor pedals. (The pedalboard would be a table.) Things I've learned for airplane travel: 1) It's much, much cheaper to have two full-size suitcases than it is to have one full-size suitcase that is over weight. (On my last tour, the overweight bag was $110, where an extra check-in bag would've been $35.) 2) Get a small rolling suitcase for carry-on, and put the most valuable or hard-to-replace items in there. Checked baggage tends to go through a lot of abuse. Last I knew, carry-on baggage did not have a weight limit. 3) If your check-in or carry-on contains a very suspicious-looking instrument, it's a good idea to paste newspaper articles or descriptions of it on the outside of the case. My solution for performing with a large variety of gear? Don't. At my venue I've seen many shows where people bring a large variety of instruments. They tend to get so distracted in making sure they use everything that the performance becomes more of a demonstration than a concert. Do you really need a smoke machine? -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 23:22:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB01B183478; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 23:22:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=76b0RldwTWwupaQ97+hhZG/OWylKeI9+CMafm9v9dV0=; b=AArvzJbK2rQNshdWgMdbPJjbkFhYQpctmlImOIOv2g4scYaN2HM3yN5sz84L/1R++D v9HoQ9yXNjYRR1iq93V9RPnSp+1DR5755h/iprTel9CHt+uPBUSre5Sk3/Jg1HmFbYKM euBTXQ35hbuwBSI5pY/e+COU6PMIX5aMlR5OI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 16:22:42 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Set-Up From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110831 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 23:22:42 +0000 (UTC) > Do you really need a smoke machine? > > That's a rhetorical question right :-) Kevin --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 23:24:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55CB018348A; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 23:24:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=XdFkzGYHVKWSqWjMve/SwGc2xyS388qTc25TUHyTbaE=; b=ML4kYBb4ea8cMcd6APVD3S52zbewmtxb0BM8zYfTa7oNUDmX3c0qLVfJMmuVEtuwT/ GTCJFchCqXulTfh6lzV0rTY/M4Z0e+0gzKskztfv/HZgg050QylCIDhJvWtnngbBVZp4 2Bik0sIpu53QYOwUvDr8zAC1U2sWOqVl4SfFg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 19:24:41 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Set-Up From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec5014dd780ab6504a78305ef Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110832 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 23:24:43 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec5014dd780ab6504a78305ef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://www.looksolutionsusa.com/minifogmachines.shtml :) On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > Do you really need a smoke machine? > > -- > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com > Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt > > --bcaec5014dd780ab6504a78305ef Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://ww= w.looksolutionsusa.com/minifogmachines.shtml

:)

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.c= om> wrote:
Do you really ne= ed a smoke machine?

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--bcaec5014dd780ab6504a78305ef-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 7 23:28:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A96C183495; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 23:28:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=bjRIoUW+lWmsjNGzHI8p0GJOPKhmxcYJ7XplUoyp6uIYU25cHLhI9RskZc/7U905; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <10962156.1310081285546.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 16:28:05 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Set-Up Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd484ced55656976c3bcbdfc4a92beff1cd3cb31c92fc090f552350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.25 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110833 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 23:28:06 +0000 (UTC) From: Matt Davignon . Do you really need a smoke machine? ...uhmmm http://stanosaur.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 8 00:29:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2934B18349C; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 00:29:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E164F61.50907@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 20:29:21 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110834 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 00:29:30 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long Special Focus on Jürgen Haible. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Of Eagles and Prophets" by Jürgen Haible. Details are at the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#jul On tonight's show, I will play music by Mark Jenkins who will be performing at the Soundscapes Concert Series on Sunday, July 24, 8 pm at the Nazareth Center for the Arts. http://soundscapes.us Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org/listen on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 8 01:26:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 734C0183478; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 01:26:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=E8WPS7BddC3hV+tSjKgrG64ehZ126A8rAKkuVf1eZIE=; b=Ww6epbfZYZsibTAqeUUNhJB2Tw6GDaIXVisvBbL+XjVkPwN2I2rEc6GBHPcSfpGQAF xqU0L3T2VnQIxQbjGxtKhjEcBCDlLtS5p268SL2WuYlj2CdaAwB+IWqO3JfZ50U6EEnv 7zbSEej3v8rUNpWjWvf85UD3t0gxRpSuUkCRA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 03:25:54 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: tj1_xf_3xffGwijY1F3yVqq9VQY Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: more Logic hell... this time .. control assignments! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba2124612b0bb604a784b8e3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110835 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 01:26:15 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba2124612b0bb604a784b8e3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Are you completely sure this works with normal dragged in samples (Like in Acid) AFAIK I thought this was only for midi loops... Er.. Apple loops... Well who do I think Im talking to.. ??? Of course you know what you are talking about... just that we maybe at cross-purposes... On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Its not a track. It is a little tick box labeled "Transposition" > located inside the Inspector box to the left (arrange window's general > channel strip). Drag the mouse upwards or downwards. For octaves use > the fast drop-down meny. > > > > On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 12:25 AM, mark francombe > wrote: > > Pssst... I still cant find Transform track thingy... > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:41 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> > >> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:30 PM, mark francombe > > >> wrote: > >> > Its this Transform field that must be the holy grail of which I seek! > >> > Weirdly my company name is Transform... > >> > >> > >> Espionage! Jobs got his eyes on you now. Watch your steps carefully! > >> > >> Per > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Mark Francombe > > www.markfrancombe.com > > www.ordoabkhao.com > > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > > http://www.looop.no > > twitter @markfrancombe > > > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba2124612b0bb604a784b8e3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Are you completely sure this works with normal dragged in samples (Like in = Acid) AFAIK I thought this was only for midi loops...
Er.. Apple loops..= .

Well who do I think Im talking to.. ??? Of course you know what yo= u are talking about... just that we maybe at cross-purposes...



On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Per= Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Its not a track. It is a little tick box lab= eled "Transposition"
located inside the Inspector box to the left (arrange window's general<= br> channel strip). Drag the mouse upwards or downwards. For octaves use
the fast drop-down meny.



On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 12:25 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:<= br> > Pssst... I still cant find Transform track thingy...
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:41 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:30 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>= ;
>> wrote:
>> > Its this Transform field that must be the holy grail of which= I seek!
>> > Weirdly my company name is Transform...
>>
>>
>> Espionage! Jobs got his eyes on you now. =A0Watch your steps caref= ully!
>>
>> Per
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Mark Francombe
> www.markfra= ncombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao= .com
> http://vimeo= .com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no<= /a>
> twitter @markfrancombe
>




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Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--90e6ba2124612b0bb604a784b8e3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 8 04:15:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B170183474; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 04:15:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=G6Q69DB3AUoJKS2BpLRaz8MQ2NORN7h5HRzrJMPOhRw= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=3QvH1asLGT/yWpcnb6CItQ==:17 a=kpHFvfvXAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=BqwUPAef7IRGKP9hjTAA:9 a=FRPyMTm-fvsTgD5NMcQA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=3QvH1asLGT/yWpcnb6CItQ==:117 Message-Id: <5BC7F995-6A96-46CD-B801-D62C2DF54C14@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Set-Up Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 21:15:42 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110836 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 04:15:44 +0000 (UTC) For a long while I considered getting a collapsable cardboard box, painting it charcoal grey, putting battery powered LEDs all over it and, taping an iPod to the inside. The blinky lights would've been for show (of course) and the iPod could contain all the looping backing tracks I would need to play to. Provide the instrument of your choice (kazoo, spoons, Stradivarius, Les Paul) and a small amp of some sort and your done. On Jul 7, 2011, at 11:27 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > I sometimes worry I spend more time envisioning the perfect rig, > cases, projection system, etc than I do actually playing, but I'm > going to ask this anyway. > > It seems that the amount of gear I want to have available to play out > with just keeps growing; between laptops, projectors, hardware and > instruments, its become a lot of stuff to travel with and actually > have usefully available for performance. > > So with that in mind, what are the solutions people have come up with > for traveling and performing with a large variety of gear? > > I'm looking toward the most compact and easy to set up kind of tips > so, anybody feeling like bragging about or sharing their solutions? > > Kevin > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to > have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all > trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 8 06:05:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B84CF183465; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 06:05:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 08:05:50 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110708060550.310380@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20110707213143.274460@gmx.net> Subject: Re: Gear shopping advice please! (pedal, controller, guitar, looper on budget) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX199QcZctZF9vY4/s9DWIoPB30prAA8iGJcz5WftHE 2CXhJxJr0/hgXq7mH1BrXJBFVJGUYH+tvjeA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: Bqkjeks+TiE+Xdp6nGVw7BZ9ZUVSRNd0 Resent-Message-ID: <7Z2BGB.A.pcE.C5pFOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110837 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 06:05:54 +0000 (UTC) Hi Luis I have the RC-2 and I don't remember it correcting my timing. You just Rec>Play>Overdub>Play and that's pretty much it. (Just turn down the rhythm track.) I don't know if RC-3 is really an improvement. I haven't looked at it thoroughly yet. Have fun in the woods - sounds really interesting! :-) Buzap -- NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 8 06:08:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B7C0183466; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 06:08:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 08:08:09 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110708060809.310380@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20110707210723.274450@gmx.net> Subject: Re: OT: more Logic hell... this time .. control assignments! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/DaZ9H/AfDgSDbFKBEiehvS0SSqzzu2SHofgHQ8l d8ZNtWqbxVd2Vz2Xda86V+dWRmF+0Ynlpp3Q== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: nvtkbloYeSEqVch4kHUhqxR+IGRvbwBK Resent-Message-ID: <1PU1pC.A.jjE.M7pFOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110838 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 06:08:12 +0000 (UTC) > > Logic + controller = hell... > > Sounds very familiar... Good it worked out for you. I just remember some buttons that were not available as straightforward midi. But curiously, some Mackie DAW controller could do it. So I had to reverse-engineer those commands... That's pretty much hell to me ;-) Buzap -- NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 8 06:25:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD8D9183474; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 06:25:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 08:25:12 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <5BC7F995-6A96-46CD-B801-D62C2DF54C14@charter.net> Message-ID: <20110708062512.310380@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5BC7F995-6A96-46CD-B801-D62C2DF54C14@charter.net> Subject: Re: Set-Up To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX184hM4+Rx84+KX63dLLEebNUZ/v6G5H0Aort55oEI XAA0Lfl5svjWC56rAjM7q4Ud8TzAl2ihLXjA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: n8dkbloYeSEqVch4kHUh0hp+IGRvbwDC Resent-Message-ID: <2_rLFC.A.23E.LLqFOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110839 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 06:25:15 +0000 (UTC) Interesting thread! >If your check-in or carry-on contains a very suspicious-looking instrument, LOL... My harmonicas always seem to be very suspicious at the airport (and try to explain why you have a dozen with you...). They always want to see each one of them and sometimes even demonstrate by playing... ;-)) For a rack, I think this would be an interesting solution (2U, flight carry on, laptop): http://www.skbcases.com/music/products/proddetail.php?f=&id=426 But instead, I went for a foldable solution using the Stanton Uberstand (bit pricey but works great): http://www.stantondj.com/stanton-accessories/uberstand.html best regard Buzap -- NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 8 06:31:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1DE4183473; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 06:31:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: Subject: RE: Set-Up Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 08:31:10 +0200 Message-ID: <3C2AE9CEED974DD89CFD3D0829D9EFC7@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acw9MpRQGiLZo31wTyW+4nlA+N/YXwABaYNw In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110840 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 06:31:14 +0000 (UTC) > Oh, a good trick is to weight one's hand luggage without the computer > since you will be asked anyway to take out your computer before > examining the hand luggage weight at the airport. So the computer can > actually be the two kilo that go above the allowed 8 kg (making 10 kg > *after* the security check). I just found (for the flight to Florence and later back from Rome) that these numbers depend on the airline. AirBerlin = 8kg hand lugguage including a computer, the luggage can consist of several parts adding up to max 8kg (guitar + laptop). Easyjet = 1 part only allowed in the hand luggage (= guitar), so I'll have to stuff my notebook into my suitcase for the flight back. -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 8 06:41:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 32166183466; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 06:41:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_82d19aea-9c12-4758-b52a-9aabc235254d_" X-Originating-IP: [86.165.52.210] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: Set-Up Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 06:41:38 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20110708062512.310380@gmx.net> References: ,<5BC7F995-6A96-46CD-B801-D62C2DF54C14@charter.net>,<20110708062512.310380@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jul 2011 06:41:38.0824 (UTC) FILETIME=[16E27880:01CC3D3A] Resent-Message-ID: <36fK9D.A.rRF.kaqFOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110841 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 06:41:40 +0000 (UTC) --_82d19aea-9c12-4758-b52a-9aabc235254d_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've just got one of these: http://www.decks.co.uk/products/american_dj/ACF= SWVMS4_LuxI can get my 1u Saffire pro soundcard=2C Line6 M13=2C 2 expressio= n pedals=2C laptop and all power supplies in it as well as leads spare stri= ngs and batteries. It just about conforms to hand luggage dimensions though= I had to remove the cool trolley thing to get it to fit. Everything is pre= -wired in it too so it will set up in minutes. The M13 sits on top of the s= oundcard in the rack lid at gigs. My guitar can go in the hold with tee shi= rts and knickers wrapped around it=2C (oh and a toothbrush :) Gareth=2C Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > Date: Fri=2C 8 Jul 2011 08:25:12 +0200 > From: buzap@gmx.net > Subject: Re: Set-Up > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Interesting thread! >=20 > >If your check-in or carry-on contains a very suspicious-looking > instrument=2C > LOL... My harmonicas always seem to be very suspicious at the airport (an= d try to explain why you have a dozen with you...). They always want to see= each one of them and sometimes even demonstrate by playing... =3B-)) >=20 > For a rack=2C I think this would be an interesting solution (2U=2C flight= carry on=2C laptop): > http://www.skbcases.com/music/products/proddetail.php?f=3D&id=3D426 > But instead=2C I went for a foldable solution using the Stanton Uberstand= (bit pricey but works great):=20 > http://www.stantondj.com/stanton-accessories/uberstand.html >=20 > best regard > Buzap >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren! =09 > Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone >=20 = --_82d19aea-9c12-4758-b52a-9aabc235254d_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've just got one of these: =3Bhttp://www.decks.co.uk/products/american= _dj/ACFSWVMS4_Lux
I can get my 1u Saffire pro soundcard=2C Line6 M13=2C= 2 expression pedals=2C laptop and all power supplies in it as well as lead= s spare strings and batteries. It just about conforms to hand luggage dimen= sions though I had to remove the cool trolley thing to get it to fit. Every= thing is pre-wired in it too so it will set up in minutes. The M13 sits on = top of the soundcard in the rack lid at gigs. My guitar can go in the hold = with tee shirts and knickers wrapped around it=2C (oh and a toothbrush :)


Gareth=2C Sentientfx - =3B Innovative music= plugins. http://senti= entfx.com/

>=3B Date: Fri=2C 8 Jul 2011 08:25:12 +0200>=3B From: buzap@gmx.net
>=3B Subject: Re: Set-Up
>=3B To: Loo= pers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
>=3B Interesting thread!>=3B
>=3B >=3BIf your check-in or carry-on contains a very susp= icious-looking
>=3B instrument=2C
>=3B LOL... My harmonicas alway= s seem to be very suspicious at the airport (and try to explain why you hav= e a dozen with you...). They always want to see each one of them and someti= mes even demonstrate by playing... =3B-))
>=3B
>=3B For a rack= =2C I think this would be an interesting solution (2U=2C flight carry on=2C= laptop):
>=3B http://www.skbcases.com/music/products/proddetail.php?f= =3D&=3Bid=3D426
>=3B But instead=2C I went for a foldable solution = using the Stanton Uberstand (bit pricey but works great):
>=3B http:/= /www.stantondj.com/stanton-accessories/uberstand.html
>=3B
>=3B = best regard
>=3B Buzap
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>=3B
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>=3B -- <= br>>=3B NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren!
>=3B Jetzt= informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone
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= --_82d19aea-9c12-4758-b52a-9aabc235254d_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 8 06:46:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2413418347A; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 06:46:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_d8c5fcd9-7fb3-49cc-b61a-d6032cef729e_" X-Originating-IP: [86.165.52.210] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: Set-Up Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 06:46:17 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3C2AE9CEED974DD89CFD3D0829D9EFC7@mpeserver> References: ,<3C2AE9CEED974DD89CFD3D0829D9EFC7@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jul 2011 06:46:17.0023 (UTC) FILETIME=[BCB444F0:01CC3D3A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110842 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 06:46:19 +0000 (UTC) --_d8c5fcd9-7fb3-49cc-b61a-d6032cef729e_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I wouldn't put a laptop in the hold Michael. When i arrived in Japan for so= me looping gigs a number of years back=2C the screen had shattered due=2C I= 'm assuming=2C to air pressure differences. Gareth=2C Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > From: mp@mpeters.de > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: RE: Set-Up > Date: Fri=2C 8 Jul 2011 08:31:10 +0200 >=20 > > Oh=2C a good trick is to weight one's hand luggage without the computer > > since you will be asked anyway to take out your computer before > > examining the hand luggage weight at the airport. So the computer can > > actually be the two kilo that go above the allowed 8 kg (making 10 kg > > *after* the security check).=20 >=20 > I just found (for the flight to Florence and later back from Rome) that > these numbers depend on the airline. AirBerlin =3D 8kg hand lugguage incl= uding > a computer=2C the luggage can consist of several parts adding up to max 8= kg > (guitar + laptop). Easyjet =3D 1 part only allowed in the hand luggage (= =3D > guitar)=2C so I'll have to stuff my notebook into my suitcase for the fli= ght > back. >=20 > -Michael >=20 = --_d8c5fcd9-7fb3-49cc-b61a-d6032cef729e_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I wouldn't put a laptop in the hold Michael. When i arrived in Japan for so= me looping gigs a number of years back=2C the screen had shattered due=2C I= 'm assuming=2C to air pressure differences.


Gareth=2C Sent= ientfx - =3B Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/

>=3B From: mp= @mpeters.de
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B Sub= ject: RE: Set-Up
>=3B Date: Fri=2C 8 Jul 2011 08:31:10 +0200
>=3B=
>=3B >=3B Oh=2C a good trick is to weight one's hand luggage witho= ut the computer
>=3B >=3B since you will be asked anyway to take out= your computer before
>=3B >=3B examining the hand luggage weight at= the airport. So the computer can
>=3B >=3B actually be the two kilo= that go above the allowed 8 kg (making 10 kg
>=3B >=3B *after* the = security check).
>=3B
>=3B I just found (for the flight to Flor= ence and later back from Rome) that
>=3B these numbers depend on the a= irline. AirBerlin =3D 8kg hand lugguage including
>=3B a computer=2C t= he luggage can consist of several parts adding up to max 8kg
>=3B (gui= tar + laptop). Easyjet =3D 1 part only allowed in the hand luggage (=3D
= >=3B guitar)=2C so I'll have to stuff my notebook into my suitcase for th= e flight
>=3B back. <=3Bsigh>=3B
>=3B
>=3B -Michael
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= --_d8c5fcd9-7fb3-49cc-b61a-d6032cef729e_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 8 08:19:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 355EC183466; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 08:19:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 08:19:48 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_aab8c16b-1f45-4850-843e-19ccd02f46af_" X-Originating-IP: [115.130.14.39] From: nat grant To: Subject: OT: gigs/venues in Jakarta, Los Angeles Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 18:14:47 +1000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jul 2011 08:14:47.0552 (UTC) FILETIME=[1A06B000:01CC3D47] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110843 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 08:19:49 +0000 (UTC) --_aab8c16b-1f45-4850-843e-19ccd02f46af_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable dear loopers i'm looking to play a couple of shows in Jakarta and Los Angeles in October= this year - wondering if anyone might have any leads on venues/improv even= ts in those cities=2C and/or might have a contact they could share=2C and/o= r would be interested in playing a show with me... doesn't have to be a lar= ge affair=2C just looking to play and open to bars/galleries/warehouses/wei= rd spaces.=20 i'll probably be in jakarta october 2-7=2C LA oct 8-12ish... any ideas? =3D) nat --------------------=20 Nat Grant - M.Mus (Perf) (percussion)=20 http://www.myspace.com/natskyplaysdrums http://www.youtube.com/natskyplaysdrums http://www.soundcloud.com/natskyplaysdrums http://natskyplaysdrums.bandcamp.com (free download) = --_aab8c16b-1f45-4850-843e-19ccd02f46af_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
dear loopers

i'm looking to play a couple of shows in Jakarta and Lo= s Angeles in October this year - wondering if anyone might have any leads o= n venues/improv events in those cities=2C and/or might have a contact they = could share=2C and/or would be interested in playing a show with me... does= n't have to be a large affair=2C just looking to play and open to bars/gall= eries/warehouses/weird spaces.

i'll probably be in jakarta october = 2-7=2C LA oct 8-12ish...

any ideas?

=3D) nat

----= ----------------
Nat Grant - M.Mus (Perf)
(percussion)
http://ww= w.myspace.com/natskyplaysdrums
http://www.youtube.com/natskyplaysdrumshttp://www.soundcloud.com/natskyplaysdrums
http://natskyplaysdrums.ban= dcamp.com (free download)
= --_aab8c16b-1f45-4850-843e-19ccd02f46af_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 8 10:17:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 416EE183466; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 10:17:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=GJ394yo1wO8WApUs5l2ekVA6BwNJsXwrdcdyyVuVpaQ=; b=J74Q1SpNGZcaLA61un9WM7RKXLe2gkMhw24hLkfQ0TNad8mJXP9w7esC452Yik9DmM RYYC5EY1BfEH92+yCujd+dl8jv6vqTXp+CtKPPKihO+7CuorzTS3ZVswfKFtWuyaNbgt XxY9KkB3xZpnHpNI8uBDzrvhtruIrHdUxnQDI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 12:17:14 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: more Logic hell... this time .. control assignments! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110844 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 10:17:16 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:25 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Are you completely sure this works with normal dragged in samples (Like in > Acid) AFAIK I thought this was only for midi loops... > Er.. Apple loops... See earlier post. It's all in there. Good luck! pboy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 8 13:17:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02988183463; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 13:17:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E17034A.7030800@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 09:16:58 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #744 for July 7, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <20Z-oB.A.SjB.SNwFOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110845 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 13:17:06 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/110707.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #744 July 7, 2011. RECAP: On this show, I began a month-long focus on Jürgen Haible. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Of Eagles and Prophets" which is a self-released title.http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#jul On this show, I played music by Mark Jenkins who will appear at the Soundscapes Concert Series. Visit the events page for details. http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/events.html PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Mark Jenkins Red Bank This Island Earth (AMP) Mark Jenkins Metuchen This Island Earth (AMP) Mark Jenkins Sandy Hook This Island Earth (AMP) Mystified Bone Drone 12 Bone Drones 3 (Mystified Music) Paragate Silhed | Spejlet Stillness in the Mirror (Auraltone) Mario Scholwalder Cup 5 Filter-Kaffee 101 (SynGate) and Frank Rothe Mario Scholwalder Cup 6 Filter-Kaffee 101 (SynGate) and Frank Rothe Kamil Kowalczyk Plasma * Aurora (Prototyp Produktion) Jürgen Haible October '96 Part 1 Of Eagles and Prophets (none) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Jürgen Haible October '96 Part 2 Of Eagles and Prophets (none) Jürgen Haible October '96 Part 3 Of Eagles and Prophets (none) Jürgen Haible Anthrazit Of Eagles and Prophets (none) Jürgen Haible Tragodie einer Of Eagles and Prophets (none) Geburt Jürgen Haible Hochgebirge Of Eagles and Prophets (none) Jürgen Haible Zarathustra's Of Eagles and Prophets (none) Untergang Jürgen Haible Media in vita Of Eagles and Prophets (none) Jürgen Haible Die Grosse Genesung Of Eagles and Prophets (none) Jürgen Haible Turnier Himmelfahrt Of Eagles and Prophets (none) Jürgen Haible A Sultry Night Of Eagles and Prophets (none) Jürgen Haible Facing the Shadow Of Eagles and Prophets (none) Jürgen Haible The Beauty of Of Eagles and Prophets (none) Innocence 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Jürgen Haible. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Dark November" which is a self-released title. Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 8 14:09:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC9B2183466; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 14:09:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Gn/dn5BJ3x1GPn48U2+ZLYaG6irkCMQyXxc/bJWxj70=; b=Fszl/fow2NDpO/wjjaxKTirAIbheWwar61fnvNXg+lrfQm9TyDClgD7LjZIQzYToRm XYJAzXhbTTuLBsOW2aEOdUWDmCn0og2vBB612A2vC3vQh2ObDIk2zHFsOmzBGnUufm9g 7yGVgpiWHodFkZiZkKNlL3oHAZgfSBxkLbLIA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20110708062512.310380@gmx.net> References: <5BC7F995-6A96-46CD-B801-D62C2DF54C14@charter.net> <20110708062512.310380@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:09:33 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Set-Up From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110846 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 14:09:34 +0000 (UTC) > For a rack, I think this would be an interesting solution (2U, flight carry on, laptop): > http://www.skbcases.com/music/products/proddetail.php?f=&id=426 this one is wonderful i recently bought it and sold all of the other ones i have cheers Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 8 14:11:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9077183463; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 14:11:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=WUKvZSZy+QKhNH7XlVHJjOsaHANueaTz1llmIp5wJIU=; b=mSVoxRdErcgpmjmuKnfYe9dLDwcsQ1gG9BFweE5bS3VmwX2mpbuzmfAG3FLmILk4LB PfH8exhRvbCFiEGUCh8T/6d75QUhXyEkbS01umqjAaDQJVALOFjJz/J+rW+keLjwdAqs mmidwjikhg+FdXDvSdMZ6i7a/Inqp9FSS3kuY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20110708060550.310380@gmx.net> References: <20110707213143.274460@gmx.net> <20110708060550.310380@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:11:23 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Gear shopping advice please! (pedal, controller, guitar, looper on budget) From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <1fVQaB.A.AOC.MAxFOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110847 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 14:11:24 +0000 (UTC) yes its a wedding party at an amazing place a small castle overlooking the lake should be fun looping there;-) cheers Luis On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Hi Luis > > I have the RC-2 and I don't remember it correcting my timing. You just Rec>Play>Overdub>Play and that's pretty much it. (Just turn down the rhythm track.) > > I don't know if RC-3 is really an improvement. I haven't looked at it thoroughly yet. > > Have fun in the woods - sounds really interesting! :-) > > Buzap > > -- > NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren! > Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone > > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 8 15:41:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E10E7183466; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 15:41:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 600 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 15:41:55 UTC From: Chris Beaty Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Looperlative LP-1 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 10:31:53 -0500 Message-Id: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110848 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 15:41:55 +0000 (UTC) I'm looking for help getting my Looperlative LP1 to receive midi info the forums at looperlative are kinda quiet, and I'm in a ruch any help? Thanks, Chris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 8 16:11:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F418183462; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:11:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dD31WqWNmVjxBhtmQg2+KkANX6VTO/ZyJalNfrB3QWU=; b=wvDF9jXnVJndIpC216ReLA/wXoTw2yD74tq2Dg1j8LU04yKiA2P/Ik+07LuGrhAy/B 5qeEbOI/LbsAjGRE/+SdQ1TuLS/WLZuOp6gCiH13xn2Q3r5cG9VWXsIPzTVRzsk9n+Gq +bDPMJnitdnvL3XNPlgcObWMzBNj/ckqkoIB0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:11:13 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looperlative LP-1 From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd48de41f9c9404a7911547 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110849 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:11:14 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd48de41f9c9404a7911547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 hi chris. can you be more specific? are you talking about midi clock, or other midi data? have you tried assigning functions to incoming messages? what are you using to send data? sim On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Chris Beaty wrote: > I'm looking for help getting my Looperlative LP1 to receive midi info > the forums at looperlative are kinda quiet, and I'm in a ruch > any help? > Thanks, > Chris > > > > --000e0cd48de41f9c9404a7911547 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi chris. can you be more specific? are you talking about midi clock, or ot= her midi data?

have you tried assigning functions to inc= oming messages?

what are you using to send data?

sim

On Fri, Jul 8, 20= 11 at 4:31 PM, Chris Beaty <CTB@visi.com> wrote:
I'm looking for help getting my Looperlative LP1 to receive midi info the forums at looperlative are kinda quiet, and I'm in a ruch
any help?
Thanks,
Chris




--000e0cd48de41f9c9404a7911547-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 8 16:20:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47641183466; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:20:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=nVbnmg/s/mX6OGNgLqxs3F4Mb9GbaDHEgy4/VbFBbUJABsP+o9+/AIFsv9iQbMM0; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 12:20:34 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Looperlative LP-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec796c63ac2aed34b2098b16cd1c11dd0c2a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110850 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:20:43 +0000 (UTC) Hi Chris..! There are several people here who were involved in the development of the LP-1, I hope you get the assistance you seek..! -Chuck >I'm looking for help getting my Looperlative LP1 to receive midi info >the forums at looperlative are kinda quiet, and I'm in a ruch >any help? >Thanks, >Chris -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 8 16:28:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0E02183466; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:28:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Chris Beaty Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--1024637335 Subject: Re: Looperlative LP-1 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 11:28:47 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <67195496-C39C-48FD-8F99-B1D248BAD686@visi.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110851 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:28:49 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--1024637335 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi simeon, thanks for getting back I'm simply trying to control the LP1 with my Roland FC-200 this actually used to work, once upon a time now, when I put the unit in the MIDI/USER btn mode, and push the FC-200 = pedals, I get Nada I've checked the midi traffic withe pedal-channel 1 and other midi = devices see incoming data from the FC-200 I've sent beat clock to the LP1 I get a BPM of 0 on the LP1 So I am getting the feeling that the LP1 is not seeing any midi I've had this for about 5 years, and used it a little here and there I sent it to Bob about 3 years ago, for repair, as it was sounding bad Any hints? thanks, Chris On Jul 8, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > hi chris. can you be more specific? are you talking about midi clock, = or other midi data? >=20 > have you tried assigning functions to incoming messages? >=20 > what are you using to send data? >=20 > sim >=20 > On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Chris Beaty wrote: > I'm looking for help getting my Looperlative LP1 to receive midi info > the forums at looperlative are kinda quiet, and I'm in a ruch > any help? > Thanks, > Chris >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 Thanks, Chris --Apple-Mail-2--1024637335 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hi = simeon,
thanks for getting back
I'm simply trying to = control the LP1 with my Roland FC-200
this actually used to = work, once upon a time
now, when I put the unit in the = MIDI/USER btn mode, and push the FC-200 pedals, I get = Nada
I've checked the midi traffic withe pedal-channel 1 and = other midi devices see incoming data from the FC-200
I've sent = beat clock to the LP1
I get a BPM of 0 on the LP1
So = I am getting the feeling that the LP1 is not seeing any = midi
I've had this for about 5 years, and used it a little = here and there
I sent it to Bob about 3 years ago, for repair, = as it was sounding bad

Any = hints?
thanks,
Chris


On Jul 8, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:

hi chris. = can you be more specific? are you talking about midi clock, or other = midi data?

have you tried assigning functions to = incoming messages?

what are you using to send = data?

sim

On Fri, Jul 8, = 2011 at 4:31 PM, Chris Beaty <CTB@visi.com> = wrote:
I'm looking for help getting my Looperlative LP1 to receive midi = info
the forums at looperlative are kinda quiet, and I'm in a ruch
any help?
Thanks,
Chris






= --Apple-Mail-2--1024637335-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 8 17:01:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD154183466; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:01:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 640925771/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.24.87/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.24.87 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkICADs3F05YbRhX/2dsb2JhbAAMR5hU2l6GOASXO4tW X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,500,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="640925771" Message-ID: <4E1737EC.1030600@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 18:01:32 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looperlative LP-1 References: <67195496-C39C-48FD-8F99-B1D248BAD686@visi.com> In-Reply-To: <67195496-C39C-48FD-8F99-B1D248BAD686@visi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3TJPV.A.siE.ifzFOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110852 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:01:22 +0000 (UTC) Chris Beaty wrote: > Hi simeon, > thanks for getting back > I'm simply trying to control the LP1 with my Roland FC-200 > this actually used to work, once upon a time > now, when I put the unit in the MIDI/USER btn mode, and push the FC-200 > pedals, I get Nada > I've checked the midi traffic withe pedal-channel 1 and other midi > devices see incoming data from the FC-200 That would be a sign that the LP1 midi channel is not set to one that the FC-200 is sending on. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 8 17:05:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07DE5183466; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:05:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Looperlative LP-1 From: Chris Beaty In-Reply-To: <4E1737EC.1030600@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 12:05:44 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7F003F75-C2A2-4EE2-9196-5FFA4D0686B3@visi.com> References: <67195496-C39C-48FD-8F99-B1D248BAD686@visi.com> <4E1737EC.1030600@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110853 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:05:45 +0000 (UTC) I've tried all 16.....one, after the other Wish I knew what I was missing here... and this did work, once upon a time any other notions? Chris On Jul 8, 2011, at 12:01 PM, andy butler wrote: > Chris Beaty wrote: >> Hi simeon, >> thanks for getting back >> I'm simply trying to control the LP1 with my Roland FC-200 >> this actually used to work, once upon a time >> now, when I put the unit in the MIDI/USER btn mode, and push the = FC-200 pedals, I get Nada >> I've checked the midi traffic withe pedal-channel 1 and other midi = devices see incoming data from the FC-200 >=20 > That would be a sign that the LP1 midi channel is not set to one that = the FC-200 is sending on. >=20 > andy >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 Thanks, Chris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 8 17:07:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 435F6183489; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:07:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-07-08_07:2011-07-08,2011-07-08,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1107080114 Subject: Re: Looperlative LP-1 From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: <7F003F75-C2A2-4EE2-9196-5FFA4D0686B3@visi.com> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 10:07:47 -0700 Message-id: <5DD4ADCF-15A5-481C-9B08-EFF5197CAE6A@mac.com> References: <67195496-C39C-48FD-8F99-B1D248BAD686@visi.com> <4E1737EC.1030600@tiscali.co.uk> <7F003F75-C2A2-4EE2-9196-5FFA4D0686B3@visi.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <8Y6YaB.A.bzE.nlzFOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110854 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:07:51 +0000 (UTC) Any midi data filters running in your midi configuration? Do you have an LED midi tester? This might help you route out whether its a problem with a jack, cable, or midi config. Daniel On Jul 8, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Chris Beaty wrote: > I've tried all 16.....one, after the other > Wish I knew what I was missing here... > and this did work, once upon a time > any other notions? > Chris > On Jul 8, 2011, at 12:01 PM, andy butler wrote: > >> Chris Beaty wrote: >>> Hi simeon, >>> thanks for getting back >>> I'm simply trying to control the LP1 with my Roland FC-200 >>> this actually used to work, once upon a time >>> now, when I put the unit in the MIDI/USER btn mode, and push the FC-200 pedals, I get Nada >>> I've checked the midi traffic withe pedal-channel 1 and other midi devices see incoming data from the FC-200 >> >> That would be a sign that the LP1 midi channel is not set to one that the FC-200 is sending on. >> >> andy >> >> >> >> >> > > Thanks, > Chris > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 8 17:12:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92867183473; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:12:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Looperlative LP-1 From: Chris Beaty In-Reply-To: <5DD4ADCF-15A5-481C-9B08-EFF5197CAE6A@mac.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 12:12:16 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <67195496-C39C-48FD-8F99-B1D248BAD686@visi.com> <4E1737EC.1030600@tiscali.co.uk> <7F003F75-C2A2-4EE2-9196-5FFA4D0686B3@visi.com> <5DD4ADCF-15A5-481C-9B08-EFF5197CAE6A@mac.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <31miG.A.F9E.ypzFOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110855 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:12:18 +0000 (UTC) I've connected the FC-200 to my line 6 delay pro it's set to get info on channel 1 it reads all the program changes I send it I have not changed the settings on the FC-200, and it used to work I also connected 2 midi keyboards to the LP1, put the LP1 in MIDI/USER = btn mode and hit every key and button on the boards nothing I may be missing something simple here...but what? Thanks, Chris On Jul 8, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Daniel Thomas wrote: > Any midi data filters running in your midi configuration? =20 >=20 > Do you have an LED midi tester? This might help you route out whether = its a problem with a jack, cable, or midi config. =20 >=20 >=20 > Daniel=20 > On Jul 8, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Chris Beaty wrote: >=20 >> I've tried all 16.....one, after the other >> Wish I knew what I was missing here... >> and this did work, once upon a time >> any other notions? >> Chris >> On Jul 8, 2011, at 12:01 PM, andy butler wrote: >>=20 >>> Chris Beaty wrote: >>>> Hi simeon, >>>> thanks for getting back >>>> I'm simply trying to control the LP1 with my Roland FC-200 >>>> this actually used to work, once upon a time >>>> now, when I put the unit in the MIDI/USER btn mode, and push the = FC-200 pedals, I get Nada >>>> I've checked the midi traffic withe pedal-channel 1 and other midi = devices see incoming data from the FC-200 >>>=20 >>> That would be a sign that the LP1 midi channel is not set to one = that the FC-200 is sending on. >>>=20 >>> andy >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >> Thanks, >> Chris >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 Thanks, Chris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 8 17:23:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80650183464; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:23:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-07-08_07:2011-07-08,2011-07-08,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1107080117 Subject: Re: Looperlative LP-1 From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 10:21:59 -0700 Message-id: <1D787B67-25D6-4A99-9154-3AA1BADE5831@mac.com> References: <67195496-C39C-48FD-8F99-B1D248BAD686@visi.com> <4E1737EC.1030600@tiscali.co.uk> <7F003F75-C2A2-4EE2-9196-5FFA4D0686B3@visi.com> <5DD4ADCF-15A5-481C-9B08-EFF5197CAE6A@mac.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <3rKWWC.A.cLF.4zzFOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110856 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:23:04 +0000 (UTC) Did you try swapping out the midi cable? Midi cables short out just like any other cable. Its rare but I have seen it at the back of my own midi patch bay-- took me days to figure it out--- Of course, had I dug in my toolbox for the Midi Tester when I first suspected a possible short, It would have taken minutes to figure out. D On Jul 8, 2011, at 10:12 AM, Chris Beaty wrote: > I've connected the FC-200 to my line 6 delay pro > it's set to get info on channel 1 > it reads all the program changes I send it > I have not changed the settings on the FC-200, and it used to work > I also connected 2 midi keyboards to the LP1, put the LP1 in MIDI/USER btn mode and hit every key and button on the boards > nothing > I may be missing something simple here...but what? > Thanks, > Chris > On Jul 8, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Daniel Thomas wrote: > >> Any midi data filters running in your midi configuration? >> >> Do you have an LED midi tester? This might help you route out whether its a problem with a jack, cable, or midi config. >> >> >> Daniel >> On Jul 8, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Chris Beaty wrote: >> >>> I've tried all 16.....one, after the other >>> Wish I knew what I was missing here... >>> and this did work, once upon a time >>> any other notions? >>> Chris >>> On Jul 8, 2011, at 12:01 PM, andy butler wrote: >>> >>>> Chris Beaty wrote: >>>>> Hi simeon, >>>>> thanks for getting back >>>>> I'm simply trying to control the LP1 with my Roland FC-200 >>>>> this actually used to work, once upon a time >>>>> now, when I put the unit in the MIDI/USER btn mode, and push the FC-200 pedals, I get Nada >>>>> I've checked the midi traffic withe pedal-channel 1 and other midi devices see incoming data from the FC-200 >>>> >>>> That would be a sign that the LP1 midi channel is not set to one that the FC-200 is sending on. >>>> >>>> andy >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Chris >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > Thanks, > Chris > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 8 17:26:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26A3B183466; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:26:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Looperlative LP-1 From: Chris Beaty In-Reply-To: <1D787B67-25D6-4A99-9154-3AA1BADE5831@mac.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 12:26:49 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <27449A55-F108-406D-83BE-2F4E7DA2042E@visi.com> References: <67195496-C39C-48FD-8F99-B1D248BAD686@visi.com> <4E1737EC.1030600@tiscali.co.uk> <7F003F75-C2A2-4EE2-9196-5FFA4D0686B3@visi.com> <5DD4ADCF-15A5-481C-9B08-EFF5197CAE6A@mac.com> <1D787B67-25D6-4A99-9154-3AA1BADE5831@mac.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110857 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:26:50 +0000 (UTC) swapped no dice thanks for the idea On Jul 8, 2011, at 12:21 PM, Daniel Thomas wrote: > Did you try swapping out the midi cable? =20 > Midi cables short out just like any other cable. Its rare but I have = seen it at the back of my own midi patch bay-- took me days to figure it = out--- Of course, had I dug in my toolbox for the Midi Tester when I = first suspected a possible short, It would have taken minutes to figure = out.=20 >=20 > D > On Jul 8, 2011, at 10:12 AM, Chris Beaty wrote: >=20 >> I've connected the FC-200 to my line 6 delay pro >> it's set to get info on channel 1 >> it reads all the program changes I send it >> I have not changed the settings on the FC-200, and it used to work >> I also connected 2 midi keyboards to the LP1, put the LP1 in = MIDI/USER btn mode and hit every key and button on the boards >> nothing >> I may be missing something simple here...but what? >> Thanks, >> Chris >> On Jul 8, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Daniel Thomas wrote: >>=20 >>> Any midi data filters running in your midi configuration? =20 >>>=20 >>> Do you have an LED midi tester? This might help you route out = whether its a problem with a jack, cable, or midi config. =20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Daniel=20 >>> On Jul 8, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Chris Beaty wrote: >>>=20 >>>> I've tried all 16.....one, after the other >>>> Wish I knew what I was missing here... >>>> and this did work, once upon a time >>>> any other notions? >>>> Chris >>>> On Jul 8, 2011, at 12:01 PM, andy butler wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> Chris Beaty wrote: >>>>>> Hi simeon, >>>>>> thanks for getting back >>>>>> I'm simply trying to control the LP1 with my Roland FC-200 >>>>>> this actually used to work, once upon a time >>>>>> now, when I put the unit in the MIDI/USER btn mode, and push the = FC-200 pedals, I get Nada >>>>>> I've checked the midi traffic withe pedal-channel 1 and other = midi devices see incoming data from the FC-200 >>>>>=20 >>>>> That would be a sign that the LP1 midi channel is not set to one = that the FC-200 is sending on. >>>>>=20 >>>>> andy >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks, >>>> Chris >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >> Thanks, >> Chris >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 Thanks, Chris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 8 17:33:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 85EC0183473; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:33:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 634349029/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.24.87/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.24.87 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkICAHM+F05YbRhX/2dsb2JhbAAMSJhamGfBTYY4BJc7i1Y X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,500,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="634349029" Message-ID: <4E173F5B.6000108@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 18:33:15 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looperlative LP-1 References: <67195496-C39C-48FD-8F99-B1D248BAD686@visi.com> In-Reply-To: <67195496-C39C-48FD-8F99-B1D248BAD686@visi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110858 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:33:05 +0000 (UTC) Chris Beaty wrote: > now, when I put the unit in the MIDI/USER btn mode, just checking, but you did then hit the "Enter" button? andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 8 21:26:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 59D5B183465; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 21:26:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Looperlative LP-1 From: Chris Beaty In-Reply-To: <4E173F5B.6000108@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:25:58 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <67195496-C39C-48FD-8F99-B1D248BAD686@visi.com> <4E173F5B.6000108@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110859 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 21:26:01 +0000 (UTC) sure did hit the enter button that is where the action stops, in my process Thanks, Chris On Jul 8, 2011, at 12:33 PM, andy butler wrote: > > > Chris Beaty wrote: > >> now, when I put the unit in the MIDI/USER btn mode, > > just checking, > > but you did then hit the "Enter" button? > > > andy > > Thanks, Chris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 9 00:03:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED205183464; Sat, 9 Jul 2011 00:03:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E179AD4.9090807@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 20:03:32 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Original Boss RC-20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7FgW-B.A.kDC.dr5FOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110860 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 00:03:41 +0000 (UTC) Greetings, I have an original Boss RC-20... not the newer RC-20XL. I'm toying with the idea of picking up a second one... as cheaply as possible. (But I will wait until I actually need it before acting on the impulse.) Meanwhile, as I search eBay and Craig's List, I'm only finding the XL version. Really? Does no one want to dump the older (oldest of the Boss RC-xx), less capable model? If anyone spots one, please forward a link. Thanks. The idea is: I'm trying to convince a singer to start a (pop/rock) duo where I play acoustic guitar. I need to make loops, usuall only one loop per song is needed for the songs I've been working on. But every now and then, I need a second loop faster than I can erase the first loop. Remember, I'm not saving loops on the fly or touching the pedal with my hands. It's all foot-only operation. By putting a second RC-20 in series with the one I've got, I'd have all the capability that I need. I'm not interested in using loops prepared in advance or saving what I play on the fly so memory slots and anything more spiffy aren't desired. I figure getting a second RC-20 ought to be cheaper than selling what I've got and replacing it with something more capable like an RC-50, for example. Oh my! I just searched the Boss site for "Loop Station" and found RC-2 and RC-3. These flew totally under my radar! It looks like an RC-2 would be good enough for my application. Is this a current or discontinued item? Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 9 00:30:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 507AA183475; Sat, 9 Jul 2011 00:30:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sat, 09 Jul 2011 00:30:14 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Original Boss RC-20 From: john floridis In-Reply-To: <4E179AD4.9090807@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 18:23:32 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4A7E2F34-A0BC-4BE0-AFE5-F3C9813081C9@johnfloridis.com> References: <4E179AD4.9090807@soundscapes.us> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110861 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 00:30:15 +0000 (UTC) If I understand correctly what you want to do, you're going to have some = issues regardless of what you get. You run those in series, but they're = not going to sync. Eventually their timing will get off from one = another. Unless there is some way of doing this that I've missed all = these years. This is if you want them to play during the same song. = Maybe not, and I've misunderstood. Curious to hear what you come up with. JF= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 9 00:45:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F26A7183465; Sat, 9 Jul 2011 00:45:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Chris Beaty Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Looperlative LP1 help Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 19:45:06 -0500 Message-Id: <38C02AAB-4BC9-4824-9928-802CD06E7BBA@visi.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110862 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 00:45:14 +0000 (UTC) Hello all, to begon with-thanks to everyone who has chimed in to help me out So far, nothing is working, midi-wise with my LP1 Midi channels are set to 1 cables are good FC-200 is sending program changes, if connected to other devices FInally I've connected the FC-200 out to the midi in on the LP1 then tested connections out from the thu or out midi on the LP1 to other = devices no midi is passing thru super frustrated, as I really wanted to use this on a project any other ideas out there? Thanks, Chris I'm looking for help getting my Looperlative LP1 to receive midi info the forums at looperlative are kinda quiet, and I'm in a ruch any help? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 9 00:47:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C2872183465; Sat, 9 Jul 2011 00:47:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <971D40313C754853BF01A9917E5AAF02@americas.hpqcorp.net> Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: References: <9A57A484CF2C4A2D8ABDBDBCB64D7A1E@ELUK1><23175064-A4D2-4EC5-ADE7-13A11E26B519@charter.net> <2804837.240.1310172147376.JavaMail.root@m01> In-Reply-To: <2804837.240.1310172147376.JavaMail.root@m01> Subject: Re: THIS IS A TEST... Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 18:47:21 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 Resent-Message-ID: <6iDKFB.A.yrC.mU6FOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110863 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 00:47:34 +0000 (UTC) "...for the next sixty (or thirty) seconds, this station will conduct a test of the Emergency Broadcast System. This is only a test." "(name of host station in a particular market) is conducting a test of the Emergency Broadcast System. This is only a test." "....This station is conducting a test of the Emergency Broadcast System. This is only a test." 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Have nice day. :) www.krispenhartung.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 9 00:58:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EAD7F183466; Sat, 9 Jul 2011 00:58:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E17A799.5000709@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 20:58:01 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Original Boss RC-20 References: <4E179AD4.9090807@soundscapes.us> <32532484.13788.1310171582426.JavaMail.root@m08> In-Reply-To: <32532484.13788.1310171582426.JavaMail.root@m08> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110864 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 00:58:10 +0000 (UTC) On 7/8/11 8:23 PM, john floridis wrote: > If I understand correctly what you want to do, you're going to have some issues regardless of what you get. You run those in series, but they're not going to sync. Eventually their timing will get off from one another. Unless there is some way of doing this that I've missed all these years. This is if you want them to play during the same song. Maybe not, and I've misunderstood. > Curious to hear what you come up with. Hi John, Thanks for the reply. I guess I wasn't totally clear. I do not need to sync two loops. I don't even need to do much in the way of overdubbing on a single loop. What I need is two separate loops for different parts of the same song. First, I need a loop for a verse or chorus. Then I need a totally different loop for the coda. I just don't have enough time to spend erasing the first loop while vamping what I'd rather be recording immediately into the second looper in order to keep things tight. Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 9 01:41:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1715183466; Sat, 9 Jul 2011 01:41:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=g+zxykm1hYJZzBTDwk1vIqhREo8D5yOdXHX2T8a1vGWLSdVh3FZVs+spJVLwmU1a; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <38C02AAB-4BC9-4824-9928-802CD06E7BBA@visi.com> References: <38C02AAB-4BC9-4824-9928-802CD06E7BBA@visi.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 21:41:23 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Looperlative LP1 help Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79be855ef9fa187ff95e273b89b2c7db36350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110865 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 01:41:30 +0000 (UTC) Are you able to control the LP-1 with another controller (or a MIDI sequencer sending PC or CC messages)? CZ >Hello all, >to begon with-thanks to everyone who has chimed in to help me out >So far, nothing is working, midi-wise with my LP1 >Midi channels are set to 1 >cables are good >FC-200 is sending program changes, if connected to other devices >FInally I've connected the FC-200 out to the midi in on the LP1 >then tested connections out from the thu or out midi on the LP1 to >other devices >no midi is passing thru >super frustrated, as I really wanted to use this on a project > >any other ideas out there? > >Thanks, >Chris > >I'm looking for help getting my Looperlative LP1 to receive midi info >the forums at looperlative are kinda quiet, and I'm in a ruch >any help? -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 9 02:23:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CFB2A183466; Sat, 9 Jul 2011 02:23:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Looperlative LP1 help From: Chris Beaty In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 21:23:52 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <38C02AAB-4BC9-4824-9928-802CD06E7BBA@visi.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110866 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 02:23:54 +0000 (UTC) Hi Chuck, I've tried connecting my oxygen 8 keyboard-hitting all the keys and = dials and tried connectng my Fatar Keyboard-doing same even connecting my line 6 pro delay no midi response from the LP1 In the LP1 manual, there is mention of midi bypass it says that midi bypass can be controlled from a panel button only (not = sure what is meant by that) I cannot find midi bypass in any of the LP1 menus on screen it also states that all incoming midi will be sent to the out port, when = bypassed but again, it see no evidence of midi passing thru I just tried my old GR gtr synth-no response from LP1 this LP1 has spent most of it's life on the shelf-it's hard for me to = believe that suddenly the midi connections have gone south as well, I sent this unit to Bob for repair (audio gurgle) about 3 years = ago-it's seen relatively no use since then I can't help but think there is some "item" that is not properly enabled = on this unit I'm looking into software loopers, but the latency is hard for me to = enjoy I've pulled sooper looper into Abelton live, but it's hard for me to get = that going-no user manual can't a fella just get some looping going? The only feature that I = really, really need is the "multiply" feature I'd just use my line 6 stuff, if it was available there as well, I'd like to loop some acoustic stuff, so I'm attempting to use = a mixer and some pre's but I'm stopped without foot control of the LP1 ther's my sob story BTW-So enjoyed the Emanuel link on FB-I used to work with that guy, here = in MPLS Cheers, Chris On Jul 8, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: >=20 > Are you able to control the LP-1 with another controller (or a MIDI = sequencer sending PC or CC messages)? >=20 > CZ >=20 >> Hello all, >> to begon with-thanks to everyone who has chimed in to help me out >> So far, nothing is working, midi-wise with my LP1 >> Midi channels are set to 1 >> cables are good >> FC-200 is sending program changes, if connected to other devices >> FInally I've connected the FC-200 out to the midi in on the LP1 >> then tested connections out from the thu or out midi on the LP1 to = other devices >> no midi is passing thru >> super frustrated, as I really wanted to use this on a project >>=20 >> any other ideas out there? >>=20 >> Thanks, >> Chris >>=20 >> I'm looking for help getting my Looperlative LP1 to receive midi info >> the forums at looperlative are kinda quiet, and I'm in a ruch >> any help? >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > ... > http://www.zmix.net >=20 > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky >=20 > http://albumcredits.com/zmix >=20 >=20 Thanks, Chris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 9 02:54:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7BC3C183463; Sat, 9 Jul 2011 02:54:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1972 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sat, 09 Jul 2011 02:54:22 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=5asQ6euaRPJxDdFxwvXsn6JDb7fmFbz8qWDLMfa45gU= c=1 sm=0 a=5UBfXvP3Od8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Pq5w6/OiCe8pl5iuHRIo4A==:17 a=pHzVRr6t1jZt-Jmy9-EA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Pq5w6/OiCe8pl5iuHRIo4A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 66.25.180.248 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Original Boss RC-20 From: Victor Eijkhout In-Reply-To: <4E17A799.5000709@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 21:21:29 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3E9A69A5-DC75-4865-8453-1C3058CAA915@eijkhout.net> References: <4E179AD4.9090807@soundscapes.us> <32532484.13788.1310171582426.JavaMail.root@m08> <4E17A799.5000709@soundscapes.us> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110867 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 02:54:22 +0000 (UTC) On Jul 8, 2011, at 7:58 PM, Bill Fox wrote: > What I need is two separate loops for different parts of the same = song. First, I need a loop for a verse or chorus. Then I need a = totally different loop for the coda. The RC-50 has a mode where its three loops can be played like that. = Someone told me they are dropping in price. Victor. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 9 03:02:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0653E183466; Sat, 9 Jul 2011 03:02:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 22:55:56 -0400 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: New Horizons video in two galleries Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110868 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 03:02:18 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, "New Horizons", my favorite recent video, will be on display as part of the annual juried show at Amazing Things Art Center in Framingham, http://www.amazingthings.org/ and at the annual member's show at 119 Gallery in Lowell, http://www.119gallery.org/. The reception in Framingham is Sunday, July 10 from noon - 2PM (I'll be there on the early side) --- the 119 reception is Saturday July 16 from 3 - 6 PM. You can also see the piece at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXD7WP9LK0k --- but you'll miss all of the other fine art. -- My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com "My destination is always the same, but I work out a different route to get there" -- Henri Matisse From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 9 05:06:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57B00183473; Sat, 9 Jul 2011 05:06:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3602 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sat, 09 Jul 2011 05:06:00 UTC Message-id: <0LO100MXISPX7P41@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 00:05:52 -0400 From: "Richard Rives" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Reply-to: "Richard Rives" Subject: Re: Looperlative LP1 help In-reply-to: X-Mailer: Palm webOS v1.0.1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Alternative__boundary__1310184356934 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110869 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 05:06:00 +0000 (UTC) --Alternative__boundary__1310184356934 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Maybe a solder connection at the midi ports inside the unit needs to be res= ecured. -- Sent from my Palm Pre On Jul 8, 2011 10:23 PM, Chris Beaty <ctb@visi.com> wrote:=20 Hi Chuck, I've tried connecting my oxygen 8 keyboard-hitting all the keys and dials and tried connectng my Fatar Keyboard-doing same even connecting my line 6 pro delay no midi response from the LP1 In the LP1 manual, there is mention of midi bypass it says that midi bypass can be controlled from a panel button only (not su= re what is meant by that) I cannot find midi bypass in any of the LP1 menus on screen it also states that all incoming midi will be sent to the out port, when by= passed but again, it see no evidence of midi passing thru I just tried my old GR gtr synth-no response from LP1 this LP1 has spent most of it's life on the shelf-it's hard for me to belie= ve that suddenly the midi connections have gone south as well, I sent this unit to Bob for repair (audio gurgle) about 3 years ag= o-it's seen relatively no use since then I can't help but think there is some "item" that is not properly enabled on= this unit I'm looking into software loopers, but the latency is hard for me to enjoy I've pulled sooper looper into Abelton live, but it's hard for me to get th= at going-no user manual can't a fella just get some looping going? The only feature that I really,= really need is the "multiply" feature I'd just use my line 6 stuff, if it was available there as well, I'd like to loop some acoustic stuff, so I'm attempting to use a= mixer and some pre's but I'm stopped without foot control of the LP1 ther's my sob story BTW-So enjoyed the Emanuel link on FB-I used to work with that guy, here in= MPLS Cheers, Chris On Jul 8, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: >=20 > Are you able to control the LP-1 with another controller (or a MIDI se= quencer sending PC or CC messages)? >=20 > CZ >=20 >> Hello all, >> to begon with-thanks to everyone who has chimed in to help me out >> So far, nothing is working, midi-wise with my LP1 >> Midi channels are set to 1 >> cables are good >> FC-200 is sending program changes, if connected to other devices >> FInally I've connected the FC-200 out to the midi in on the LP1 >> then tested connections out from the thu or out midi on the LP1 to= other devices >> no midi is passing thru >> super frustrated, as I really wanted to use this on a project >>=20 >> any other ideas out there? >>=20 >> Thanks, >> Chris >>=20 >> I'm looking for help getting my Looperlative LP1 to receive midi= info >> the forums at looperlative are kinda quiet, and I'm in a ruch >> any help? >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > ... > http://www.zmix.net >=20 > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky >=20 > http://albumcredits.com/zmix >=20 >=20 Thanks, Chris --Alternative__boundary__1310184356934 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Maybe a solder connection at the midi ports inside the unit needs to be res= ecured.


-- Sent from my Palm Pre

=
On Jul 8, 2011 10:23 PM, Chris Beaty= <ctb@visi.com> wrote:

Hi Chuck,
I've tried connecting my oxygen 8 keyboard-hitting all the keys and dia= ls
and tried connectng my Fatar Keyboard-doing same
even connecting my line 6 pro delay
no midi response from the LP1
In the LP1 manual, there is mention of midi bypass
it says that midi bypass can be controlled from a panel button only (no= t sure what is meant by that)
I cannot find midi bypass in any of the LP1 menus on screen
it also states that all incoming midi will be sent to the out port, whe= n bypassed
but again, it see no evidence of midi passing thru
I just tried my old GR gtr synth-no response from LP1
this LP1 has spent most of it's life on the shelf-it's hard for me to= believe that suddenly the midi connections have gone south
as well, I sent this unit to Bob for repair (audio gurgle) about 3 year= s ago-it's seen relatively no use since then
I can't help but think there is some "item" that is not properly enable= d on this unit

I'm looking into software loopers, but the latency is hard for me to en= joy
I've pulled sooper looper into Abelton live, but it's hard for me to ge= t that going-no user manual

can't a fella just get some looping going? The only feature that I real= ly, really need is the "multiply" feature
I'd just use my line 6 stuff, if it was available there
as well, I'd like to loop some acoustic stuff, so I'm attempting to use= a mixer and some pre's
but I'm stopped without foot control of the LP1

ther's my sob story

BTW-So enjoyed the Emanuel link on FB-I used to work with that guy, her= e in MPLS

Cheers,
Chris
On Jul 8, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote:

>=20
> Are you able to control the LP-1 with another controller (or a MID= I sequencer sending PC or CC messages)?
>=20
> CZ
>=20
>> Hello all,
>> to begon with-thanks to everyone who has chimed in to help me= out
>> So far, nothing is working, midi-wise with my LP1
>> Midi channels are set to 1
>> cables are good
>> FC-200 is sending program changes, if connected to other devic= es
>> FInally I've connected the FC-200 out to the midi in on the LP1
>> then tested connections out from the thu or out midi on the LP= 1 to other devices
>> no midi is passing thru
>> super frustrated, as I really wanted to use this on a project
>>=20
>> any other ideas out there?
>>=20
>> Thanks,
>> Chris
>>=20
>> I'm looking for help getting my Looperlative LP1 to receive mi= di info
>> the forums at looperlative are kinda quiet, and I'm in a ruch
>> any help?
>=20
>=20
> --=20
>=20
> ...
> http://www.zmix.net
>=20
> http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky
>=20
> http://albumcredits.com/zmix
>=20
>=20

Thanks,
Chris



--Alternative__boundary__1310184356934-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 9 06:05:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F3EC183466; Sat, 9 Jul 2011 06:05:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Looperlative LP-1 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 23:05:41 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <9fi1f.A.F2F.8--FOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110870 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 06:05:48 +0000 (UTC) What kind of midi cable are you using? if its the cheap kind with the thick plastic molded ends like hosa cables, they won't seat far enough in to the LP-1 to make proper contact, use a high quality metal end midi cable, If you haven't used the LP-1 in a while you might spray the midi ports with a good cleanser like D-Oxit as oxidation can cause problems as well. if you live in a humid climate or by a body of water. if you have a midi interface i'd do what Daniel suggested, and run a midi diagnostic. if all else fails send it back to Bob and he will fix it, sorry you are having issues Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 9 06:20:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C6992183465; Sat, 9 Jul 2011 06:20:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=L27EmFAnsLmk7bd/UlnRBSKMghml8vho5JPPSzkUUsQAYg4rnkyE7xzYKUKXgjZA; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <1311873.1310192400559.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 01:20:00 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Grant Reply-To: Grant To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Original Boss RC-20 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 4627597e215714c3ca853a8129e90869f402879cecb40bd553134e7a813f80536db9da728a604ee60a2e366b5d32d245350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.28 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110871 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 06:20:02 +0000 (UTC) Why not use a looper with more than one loop? Also, if it's stereo, you could use one channel for guitar and one for vocal stuff (routed as desired). G -----Original Message----- >The idea is: I'm trying to convince a singer to start a (pop/rock) duo >where I play acoustic guitar. I need to make loops, usuall only one >loop per song is needed for the songs I've been working on. But every >now and then, I need a second loop faster than I can erase the first >loop. Remember, I'm not saving loops on the fly or touching the pedal >with my hands. It's all foot-only operation. By putting a second RC-20 >in series with the one I've got, I'd have all the capability that I >need. I'm not interested in using loops prepared in advance or saving >what I play on the fly so memory slots and anything more spiffy aren't >desired. I figure getting a second RC-20 ought to be cheaper than >selling what I've got and replacing it with something more capable like >an RC-50, for example. > >Cheers, > >Bill > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 9 08:32:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A0D8183466; Sat, 9 Jul 2011 08:32:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E181204.5010606@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 04:32:04 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Thought Radio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3PfJMD.A.yZH.NIBGOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110872 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 08:32:13 +0000 (UTC) THOUGHT RADIO: http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio ======================================================================= My next stint on Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show, will be Saturday, July 9 at 6 am EDT/GMT-4. I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs in Phase One. On today's show, I will play music by Mark Jenkins who will be performing at the Soundscapes Concert Series on Sunday, July 24, 8 pm at the Nazareth Center for the Arts. http://soundscapes.us I host the show every other week. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 9 10:29:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB0E3183465; Sat, 9 Jul 2011 10:29:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=+FQR0h2dLklLPgSPdiJKqnvUsZJ+WLSJ8i4pg1JkI5Q=; b=Z3TRqOquBGjf3Hz8fruGdfDPDIRcArZN8LdY05YOGfGSLgyXmhZIDv9DilOz63n4Ym 6S20jR1CAUa958qS88QaMd1x06Y+mUMi+AUndt+9c17HMMKq4XaG4Faf6bYZpCVfRtLL 4Cx6qOkniBBm+W5KOZKiTSeTHFbT2tnOoUk6w= Subject: Re: Looperlative LP-1 References: From: Simeon Harris Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPod Mail (8C148) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <455804CE-8CA0-48F5-A589-4EA07E854C52@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 11:29:41 +0100 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 8C148) Resent-Message-ID: <--PIxC.A.3b.b2CGOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110873 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 10:29:47 +0000 (UTC) I think that's the problem right there....midi cables not connecting properl= y. You can get the plastic ones to fit, but you have to push them in hard.=20= Sent from my iPod On 9 Jul 2011, at 07:05, William Walker wrote: > What kind of midi cable are you using? if its the cheap kind with the thi= ck plastic molded ends like hosa cables, they won't seat far enough in to th= e LP-1 to make proper contact, use a high quality metal end midi cable, If y= ou haven't used the LP-1 in a while you might spray the midi ports with a go= od cleanser like D-Oxit as oxidation can cause problems as well. if you live= in a humid climate or by a body of water. if you have a midi interface i'd d= o what Daniel suggested, and run a midi diagnostic. if all else fails send i= t back to Bob and he will fix it, sorry you are having issues > Bill >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 9 14:05:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C565D183461; Sat, 9 Jul 2011 14:05:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1244.3) Subject: Re: Original Boss RC-20 From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <1311873.1310192400559.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 07:05:33 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <1311873.1310192400559.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net> To: Grant , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1244.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110874 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 14:05:25 +0000 (UTC) Checkout the Boomerang III. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DuoKF0gbW6Ko http://www.boomerangmusic.com/ Pros: 3 loops. Flexibility to do a rhythm loop plus 2 loops that can be = switched between sequentially. Stereo. Reverse and half-speed support. Cons: No MIDI sync in or out (in case you care about drum machines or = the like). Recording seamless loops -- i.e., the record into overdub = maneuver -- involves a really complicated foot dance. (I'm pushing hard = for that to get addressed in a future software revision.) Mark On Jul 8, 2011, at 11:20 PM, Grant wrote: > Why not use a looper with more than one loop? Also, if it's stereo, = you could use one channel for guitar and one for vocal stuff (routed as = desired). >=20 > G >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- >> The idea is: I'm trying to convince a singer to start a (pop/rock) = duo=20 >> where I play acoustic guitar. I need to make loops, usuall only one=20= >> loop per song is needed for the songs I've been working on. But = every=20 >> now and then, I need a second loop faster than I can erase the first=20= >> loop. Remember, I'm not saving loops on the fly or touching the = pedal=20 >> with my hands. It's all foot-only operation. By putting a second = RC-20=20 >> in series with the one I've got, I'd have all the capability that I=20= >> need. I'm not interested in using loops prepared in advance or = saving=20 >> what I play on the fly so memory slots and anything more spiffy = aren't=20 >> desired. I figure getting a second RC-20 ought to be cheaper than=20 >> selling what I've got and replacing it with something more capable = like=20 >> an RC-50, for example. >>=20 >> Cheers, >>=20 >> Bill >>=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 9 15:39:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A3115183461; Sat, 9 Jul 2011 15:39:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Looperlative LP-1 From: Chris Beaty In-Reply-To: <455804CE-8CA0-48F5-A589-4EA07E854C52@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 10:39:05 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <52BEAB91-527F-44B6-8ED9-5708523A7D71@visi.com> References: <455804CE-8CA0-48F5-A589-4EA07E854C52@googlemail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110875 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 15:39:08 +0000 (UTC) I have a large supply of midi cables,. I've tried 6 now cables with metal tips, as well still no dice... I think I've ruled out the cables any other reasons that midi is not responding on the LP-1 On Jul 9, 2011, at 5:29 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > I think that's the problem right there....midi cables not connecting = properly. You can get the plastic ones to fit, but you have to push them = in hard.=20 >=20 > Sent from my iPod >=20 > On 9 Jul 2011, at 07:05, William Walker = wrote: >=20 >> What kind of midi cable are you using? if its the cheap kind with = the thick plastic molded ends like hosa cables, they won't seat far = enough in to the LP-1 to make proper contact, use a high quality metal = end midi cable, If you haven't used the LP-1 in a while you might spray = the midi ports with a good cleanser like D-Oxit as oxidation can cause = problems as well. if you live in a humid climate or by a body of water. = if you have a midi interface i'd do what Daniel suggested, and run a = midi diagnostic. if all else fails send it back to Bob and he will fix = it, sorry you are having issues >> Bill >>=20 >=20 >=20 Thanks, Chris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 9 15:53:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9254E183463; Sat, 9 Jul 2011 15:53:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 823619.46762.bm@omp1058.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1310226827; bh=yYkRPMMnqoLs0JeYrKaMr4Mte2NftPMPJRwtxk/5nBE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EuuOWERtTfANbAHHbNQ5+a++6+NfM1FgCsKUr3Di6AsbIVSMuJbwosIiFh+ITANSxtEwc0JCU2RmetA5EWvN5hV+GaknFTur3POp6NGo0ajDIk1Ha5MIvEjxzghI1VkfDSE7sATz8XXjUOKBw4zBoGvPItrZa8QYfPywpaM3dnE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yIua/NiDCY7DpawaUUg08y7Jpr/uWuuRp9TADCF62NEfy1FtQzBB6xKe3O6W4u7PebUAaFNsnsixuU7UT4ScoSqjDKGFOX0l+LpMp1kgh8nxhgi7MvJFSYF4RLEDH5WmQyb+A1UlVn9G5V6SCzIvBG8uiMrHDu2edl5uouA13Ys=; X-YMail-OSG: xnDTB9UVM1mYSaz_CF.BNi99KS14eLqjj025R5erHoMFbWp uBzdMk4bIhW.WRIi9auR0KTiyxN0.cgBUK7BRSbii8pdrbOO5dwQKBZeTtDU 1XrHdBXaHf2nu_GiQBGFPR2bJVdvcpYRoIC1gHfHP3MyYU4w6v40YJPF6nwl zoPvAhvDx9rHJHg9zmy6E3PZ8o00hRV_F25Ooo7nR_qa3tqa8gU9firVbt7G v4piWjkQkOo5Um1x.KPPRCXZM8sza2HjcKgxOhfR3pMEuyO02CHbfnZ4rPlf PNtmNiK9uM6x2A2.8_NDjX4jcvmJOJPIHDkRoGihtDG2qYGlmXNsv6jxMYsG L9xW8N7EVAa9PbyTBNMk28PjvnPccvFzTnEzzitH2PikJhL5tChRLVs7.eQn rV3zpuZE0pwoLZQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.112.307740 Message-ID: <1310226827.11211.YahooMailClassic@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 08:53:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: Original Boss RC-20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <3E9A69A5-DC75-4865-8453-1C3058CAA915@eijkhout.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1441371766-1310226827=:11211" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110876 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 15:53:49 +0000 (UTC) --0-1441371766-1310226827=:11211 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Looks like the Boss RC-50 is discontinued! I checked 4 major music vendor s= ites and saw the discontinued message. Interesting...will Boss be replacing= it with a re-vamped version? --- On Fri, 7/8/11, Victor Eijkhout wrote: From: Victor Eijkhout Subject: Re: Original Boss RC-20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Friday, July 8, 2011, 10:21 PM On Jul 8, 2011, at 7:58 PM, Bill Fox wrote: > What I need is two separate loops for different parts of the same song.= =A0 First, I need a loop for a verse or chorus.=A0 Then I need a totally di= fferent loop for the coda. The RC-50 has a mode where its three loops can be played like that. Someone= told me they are dropping in price. Victor. --0-1441371766-1310226827=:11211 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Looks like the Boss RC-50 is discontinued! I = checked 4 major music vendor sites and saw the discontinued message. Intere= sting...will Boss be replacing it with a re-vamped version?

--- On <= B>Fri, 7/8/11, Victor Eijkhout <victor@eijkhout.net> wrote= :

From: Victor Eijkhout <victor@eijkhout.net>=
Subject: Re: Original Boss RC-20
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight= .com
Date: Friday, July 8, 2011, 10:21 PM


On Jul 8, 2011, at 7:58 PM, Bill Fox wrote:
<= BR>> What I need is two separate loops for different parts of the same s= ong.  First, I need a loop for a verse or chorus.  Then I need a = totally different loop for the coda.

The RC-50 has a mode where its = three loops can be played like that. Someone told me they are dropping in p= rice.

Victor.

--0-1441371766-1310226827=:11211-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 9 16:22:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D742B183465; Sat, 9 Jul 2011 16:22:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=yMxAJ7W7nAoPh8ZdbvCArpG6pAdHwgpzIvOq8QbMesM= c=1 sm=0 a=5UBfXvP3Od8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Pq5w6/OiCe8pl5iuHRIo4A==:17 a=MotFZId2AAAA:8 a=93LLXprrFsKONitlXwQA:9 a=GfB7GWtjzAt99GLEYLQA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Pq5w6/OiCe8pl5iuHRIo4A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 66.25.180.248 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Original Boss RC-20 From: Victor Eijkhout In-Reply-To: <1310226827.11211.YahooMailClassic@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 11:22:17 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5FEBFC92-EC42-48C7-BDFB-E3E6859A683A@eijkhout.net> References: <1310226827.11211.YahooMailClassic@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110877 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 16:22:18 +0000 (UTC) On Jul 9, 2011, at 10:53 AM, Paul Richards wrote: > I checked 4 major music vendor sites and saw the discontinued message. Guitar Center lists it for a clearance price of 450. > Interesting...will Boss be replacing it with a re-vamped version? That would be cool. If it weren't for the fact that I bought my RC-50 = only a few months ago. Btw, http://www.eijkhout.net/mp3s/loop/Friday%20loop.mp3 Victor. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 9 16:34:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 111C4183462; Sat, 9 Jul 2011 16:34:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <743885D5-695D-4B84-9F2D-FFD792D5E841@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Looperlative LP-1 Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 09:33:59 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110878 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 16:34:06 +0000 (UTC) PS, and this is something i would suggest to anyone, find a good electronic technician in your area, and get them to take a look inside your LP-1, I think you have an issue at the source (the midi jacks themselves, possibly a cold solder joint as earlier suggested) As a matter of fact it is now common wisdom that any gear made in china, which would include most PC board manufacturing, be gone through and had the critical connections re-soldered using better quality solder. Particularly for connections like inputs and outputs and midi connections if applicable. Why? because cheap solder and wave soldering does not produce long lasting connections. Even a guy like Bob who is doing all of the final assembly must subcontract his pc boards and other components. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 9 16:41:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 17EF8183464; Sat, 9 Jul 2011 16:41:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <9D70067F-3707-4588-9E43-90235F0265E3@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Looperlative LP-1 Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 09:41:25 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110879 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 16:41:31 +0000 (UTC) last question, are you able to initiate commands from the front panel buttons? if so definitely check the solder joints on the midi jacks. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 9 16:56:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B930C183474; Sat, 9 Jul 2011 16:56:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Original Boss RC-20 References: <1310226827.11211.YahooMailClassic@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5FEBFC92-EC42-48C7-BDFB-E3E6859A683A@eijkhout.net> From: richard sales Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPad Mail (8J2) In-Reply-To: <5FEBFC92-EC42-48C7-BDFB-E3E6859A683A@eijkhout.net> Message-Id: <493FFB29-2EC8-4702-9FF0-88CFCDFDC3D7@glasswing.com> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 09:57:58 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPad Mail 8J2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110880 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 16:56:31 +0000 (UTC) Victor, A bit of wisdom that may and may not apply to the RC 50 but has applied to M= ANY things I've bought, upgraded, swapped, sold, horse traded etc: THe newest version is NOT always the best. In fact, after having spent hun= dreds of thousands of dollars on music stuff, I frequently wait to buy the n= ewest versions so the creator has time to iron out the bugs that slipped thr= ough the cracks. Quite often, WE are the focus group, the test group of new= devices, software etc. I remember this well in the first days of Digidesig= n where I would call with an issue, they'd ask me to repeat what happened. T= hen there would be silence and they would say, "Oh cool! I think I know wha= t that is. I'll get back to you." Think of the Jupiter 8, the old tweed Fender Supers and Twins, the Tube Scre= amer, the migration from analogue tape to digital (both have extreme advanta= ges over the other). =20 Newer is not necessarily better. Sometimes it is, often it's not. For Digi= design (now Avid), MOSTLY it's improvement... but often it's four steps forw= ard, one terrible step back.=20 With time, marketing hype starts to sound like white noise.=20 Just my simple headed opinion!!! Results may vary! Richard Sales Sent from my IPad www.glasswing.com On Jul 9, 2011, at 9:22 AM, Victor Eijkhout wrote: >=20 > On Jul 9, 2011, at 10:53 AM, Paul Richards wrote: >=20 >> I checked 4 major music vendor sites and saw the discontinued message. >=20 > Guitar Center lists it for a clearance price of 450. >=20 >> Interesting...will Boss be replacing it with a re-vamped version? >=20 > That would be cool. If it weren't for the fact that I bought my RC-50 only= a few months ago. >=20 > Btw, http://www.eijkhout.net/mp3s/loop/Friday%20loop.mp3 >=20 > Victor. >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 9 17:02:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E140183463; Sat, 9 Jul 2011 17:02:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Looperlative LP-1 From: Chris Beaty In-Reply-To: <9D70067F-3707-4588-9E43-90235F0265E3@baymoon.com> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 12:02:21 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7EBE1756-B3EA-42CE-B42E-9FCD6B87EF12@visi.com> References: <9D70067F-3707-4588-9E43-90235F0265E3@baymoon.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110881 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 17:02:22 +0000 (UTC) Front panel works thanks, chris On Jul 9, 2011, at 11:41 AM, William Walker wrote: > last question, are you able to initiate commands from the front panel = buttons? if so definitely check the solder joints on the midi jacks. > Bill >=20 >=20 Thanks, Chris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 9 17:05:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 15761183463; Sat, 9 Jul 2011 17:05:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=X/Y419sepZ3+kXtq3Yh/LS8WdLJZVlT741cFtDvEL78=; b=SE6hBPZQbB/PkaYzmVI1W/cT9kUE9WUDNP+T8bMzjC96EmLEpfZJG9OgZOYqZiASuy avrX91pGLkLeioEjk9Bn0ndVLlQQYdRgCUgduUcBw4ST7/Kj+Hq484cZtdXSmXZHbu31 VWCxdy1SMJ2uusEEETRTdPeem2S+mHTDVnyjM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <493FFB29-2EC8-4702-9FF0-88CFCDFDC3D7@glasswing.com> References: <1310226827.11211.YahooMailClassic@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5FEBFC92-EC42-48C7-BDFB-E3E6859A683A@eijkhout.net> <493FFB29-2EC8-4702-9FF0-88CFCDFDC3D7@glasswing.com> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 19:05:11 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Original Boss RC-20 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110882 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 17:05:13 +0000 (UTC) Totally agreeing with Richard that new products may not be the best. But please note that this about Roland/Boss loopers and the RC-50 really is the best among those. So sad it is going out of production now. Looped Greeetings Per Boysen On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 6:57 PM, richard sales wrote= : > Victor, > > A bit of wisdom that may and may not apply to the RC 50 but has applied t= o MANY things I've bought, upgraded, swapped, sold, horse traded etc: > > THe newest version is NOT always the best. =C2=A0 In fact, after having s= pent hundreds of thousands of dollars on music stuff, I frequently wait to = buy the newest versions so the creator has time to iron out the bugs that s= lipped through the cracks. =C2=A0Quite often, WE are the focus group, the t= est group of new devices, software etc. =C2=A0I remember this well in the f= irst days of Digidesign where I would call with an issue, they'd ask me to = repeat what happened. =C2=A0Then there would be silence and they would say,= "Oh cool! =C2=A0I think I know what that is. =C2=A0I'll get back to you." > > Think of the Jupiter 8, the old tweed Fender Supers and Twins, the Tube S= creamer, the migration from analogue tape to digital (both have extreme adv= antages over the other). > > Newer is not necessarily better. =C2=A0Sometimes it is, often it's not. = =C2=A0For Digidesign (now Avid), MOSTLY it's improvement... but often it's = four steps forward, one terrible step back. > > With time, marketing hype starts to sound like white noise. > > Just my simple headed opinion!!! =C2=A0Results may vary! > > Richard Sales > Sent from my IPad > www.glasswing.com > > > On Jul 9, 2011, at 9:22 AM, Victor Eijkhout wrote: > >> >> On Jul 9, 2011, at 10:53 AM, Paul Richards wrote: >> >>> I checked 4 major music vendor sites and saw the discontinued message. >> >> Guitar Center lists it for a clearance price of 450. >> >>> Interesting...will Boss be replacing it with a re-vamped version? >> >> That would be cool. If it weren't for the fact that I bought my RC-50 on= ly a few months ago. >> >> Btw, http://www.eijkhout.net/mp3s/loop/Friday%20loop.mp3 >> >> Victor. >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 9 17:48:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0E9E183465; Sat, 9 Jul 2011 17:48:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E189453.7070508@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 13:48:03 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: MI Business Plan [was: Re: Original Boss RC-20} References: <1310226827.11211.YahooMailClassic@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5FEBFC92-EC42-48C7-BDFB-E3E6859A683A@eijkhout.net> <493FFB29-2EC8-4702-9FF0-88CFCDFDC3D7@glasswing.com> <21737589.8763.1310232214378.JavaMail.root@m08> In-Reply-To: <21737589.8763.1310232214378.JavaMail.root@m08> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110883 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 17:48:10 +0000 (UTC) On 7/9/11 1:05 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > So sad it is going out of production > now. How else can Boss get thousands of people to buy the next big thing from them? ;-) Gear companies must update or replace items in their gear lines in order to keep us buying and them in business. Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 9 19:44:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 52AB1183466; Sat, 9 Jul 2011 19:44:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 21:44:37 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110709194437.205720@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1310226827.11211.YahooMailClassic@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5FEBFC92-EC42-48C7-BDFB-E3E6859A683A@eijkhout.net> <493FFB29-2EC8-4702-9FF0-88CFCDFDC3D7@glasswing.com> Subject: Re: Original Boss RC-20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18GP1hKiIMGQw5kbF6OFVpy6d0l6bkUed4lSjllX/ Zj9eV0H+7Uks1lKW86hcc6QSuLahljc3hK5A== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: l5ktfyk4bUk7IZ8oyWknkBRsZ2hlN8po Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110884 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 19:44:41 +0000 (UTC) > the RC-50 really is the best among those. > So sad it is going out of production now. Probably the best time to sell my RC-50 now... :-) Anybody in Europe interested? best rgds Buzap -- NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 9 20:09:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4799C183466; Sat, 9 Jul 2011 20:09:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=pLCddFkeBzYX8yWZ2Hj9uoxj2mMVTwDzklKfXk3lhyk=; b=Vm5ObcOBAcAbgPOdYEzGNu4ynzS8YdBm1dtP1IZsg0GOofaHfOc8gnuh/XWROW0sPo AHFz+IVhN8h6RTxU1UD7gx1bFbmvEAA5hPc+5Q67ngLtrZ/qt5Ux4rUBYUBq+xqAYMaV AFXfXy38mR0CzAPV1oqOqs0/ZBuZmdVZtiAwM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20110709194437.205720@gmx.net> References: <1310226827.11211.YahooMailClassic@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5FEBFC92-EC42-48C7-BDFB-E3E6859A683A@eijkhout.net> <493FFB29-2EC8-4702-9FF0-88CFCDFDC3D7@glasswing.com> <20110709194437.205720@gmx.net> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 22:09:34 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Original Boss RC-20 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110885 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 20:09:36 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: >> the RC-50 really is the best among those. >> So sad it is going out of production now. > > Probably the best time to sell my RC-50 now... :-) No, the best time to BUY ONE!!!! Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 10 01:20:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 17AA0183460; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 01:20:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <1310226827.11211.YahooMailClassic@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com><5FEBFC92-EC42-48C7-BDFB-E3E6859A683A@eijkhout.net><493FFB29-2EC8-4702-9FF0-88CFCDFDC3D7@glasswing.com><20110709194437.205720@gmx.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: PITTSBURGH mini fest update Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 21:19:48 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 70.17.160.106 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: michael klobuchar X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CE0CB69815D6E7_13DC_42D6E_Webmail-m107.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33953-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CE0CB6980C5167-13DC-1E221@Webmail-m107.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110886 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 01:20:02 +0000 (UTC) ----------MB_8CE0CB69815D6E7_13DC_42D6E_Webmail-m107.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" so far, jim goodin and jeff duke have shown an interest in the SEPT 2-3 fe= st here in the burg..... FRIDAY nite sept 2 will be a show at the INTERNATIONAL CHILDREN'S ART GALL= ERY, 7-?, there is a=20 first friday art crawl this evening so there will be lots of folks stoppin= g in.....saturday the third will be an outdoor show on GRANDVIEW AVE overlooking the city, 11-4, this is in co= njuncture with an art market that will be held on the ajoining street.....as i had mentioned, the stage= area is directly across the street from the incline that brings all the visitors to the mount and at this tim= e of year, there are many of them..... i think it might be a holiday of some sort.....i have your basic PA system= , mackie 1202 mixer, 2 srm 450's with stands and a bunch-o-boxes.....everyone is welcome to stay at HOUSE= KLOBY, bed, couch, floor, pool, coffee, donutz.....if you want to make a holiday out of it, wonderfu= l, no rush on my behalf..... if anyone else is interested in playing, please let me know soonest so i= can get some adverts taken care of.....i will need short bios from everyone for the ads etc.....any= questions, ask away, off list...... there ya go!.....i'm getting excited.....DONUTZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! =20 ----------MB_8CE0CB69815D6E7_13DC_42D6E_Webmail-m107.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" so= far, jim goodin and jeff duke have shown an interest in the SEPT 2-3 fest= here in the burg.....

FRIDAY nite sept 2 will be a show at the INTERNATIONAL CHILDREN'S ART= GALLERY, 7-?, there is a 

first friday art crawl this evening so there will be lots of folks st= opping in.....saturday the third will be

an outdoor show on GRANDVIEW AVE overlooking the city, 11-4, this is= in conjuncture with an art market

that will be held on the ajoining street.....as i had mentioned, the= stage area is directly across the street

from the incline that brings all the visitors to the mount and at thi= s time of year, there are many of them.....

i think it might be a holiday of some sort.....i have your basic PA= system, mackie 1202 mixer, 2 srm 450's

with stands and a bunch-o-boxes.....everyone is welcome to stay at HO= USE KLOBY, bed, couch, floor,

pool, coffee, donutz.....if you want to make a holiday out of it, won= derful, no rush on my behalf.....

if anyone else is interested in playing, please let me know soonest= so i can get some adverts taken

care of.....i will need short bios from everyone for the ads etc.....= any questions, ask away, off list......

there ya go!.....i'm getting excited.....DONUTZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
----------MB_8CE0CB69815D6E7_13DC_42D6E_Webmail-m107.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 10 17:58:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8AA93183464; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 17:58:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E19E837.3010501@theambientping.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 13:58:15 -0400 From: PiNG Reply-To: ping@theambientping.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ambient@hyperreal" , Dark Seeds , Drone Deep Chill , Loopers Delight , The Ambient Way Subject: 07.12.11 > The PiNG presents AMOEBA STARFISH + SPACENOIZ + STILLCOILED + GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110887 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 17:58:21 +0000 (UTC) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 07.12.11 . THE AMBiENT PiNG presents MYSTERY MOON of MARS featuring AMOEBA STARFISH + SPACENOIZ + STILLCOILED + GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS @ Supermarket . 268 Augusta Ave . Kensington Market just south of College . Map, info and directions at: http://www.supermarkettoronto.com/site/section/contact Tues. July 12th . Doors open at 8:00 . 1st set at 8:30 . $6 . SPACENOIZ . Jim Field, formerly of Rhea's Obsession brings his spacenoiz project and his many string things and efx back to the PiNG for a solo set of beautiful spacey atmospherics. http://www.myspace.com/jimfieldfromrheas . AMOEBA STARFISH . Featuring one of our favourite space guitarists Phil Ogison along with laptop percussionist Jeff Howard, AMOEBA STARFISH combines elements of groove, chill, space & psychedelia in equal proportions, at times tribal, at times alien, sure to intrigue, soothe and excite. The AMOEBA has mutated and the STARFISH sprouts another point for this show as PiNG favourite WALLY JERICHO will also be plugging in his horns and stuff. http://www.reverbnation.com/amoebastarfish# . STILLCOILED . It's been a while (the Club Nia days) since we last saw StillCoiled perform improvised ambience for us, but brilliantfish (Rob Greenway) and partner in noiz Jim Field (spacenoiz / Rhea's Obsession) are making sounds again as StillCoiled so we've invited them to space out and to make things PiNG. . GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS . The unique evolving light paintings of General Chaos Visuals will provide us with mesmerizing eye candy of painted lights projected onto a canvas of performers. http://www.generalchaosvisuals.ca . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . COMiNG SOON . TUESDAY AUGUST 16th 2011 . XII DECADE.2 THE AMBiENT PiNG's 12TH ANNiVERSARY featuring TRANSMORPHOUS SOUND ENSEMBLE + GEEK WEEKEND + quasiMODAL + GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS . TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 13th 2011 . RAMAC 305 featuring NAW + ORTIZ + LANDON SPEERS @ Supermarket . 268 Augusta Ave . Kensington Market just south of College . Map, info and directions at: http://www.supermarkettoronto.com/site/section/contact PiNG doors open at 8 . 1st set at 8:30 . $6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THE AMBiENT PiNG is a Toronto based creative community of audio artists, performers, musicians and visual artists. The PiNG presents live multimedia performances featuring ambient, electronic, soundscape, space, drone, psychedelic, chillout, downtempo, darkwave and experimental artists from around the world. http://www.theambientping.com The PiNG also has a Twitter account to send you advance updates and reminders of the when & where of future PiNG events. Just search for ambientping to find us. http://twitter.com We're also on facebook too, again just search THE AMBiENT PiNG. http://www.facebook.com ViSiT the ping things store for ambient, electronic and chill things: http://www.pingthings.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Please forward this e-mail to any interested friends or appropriate newsgroups. Thanks. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 11 06:20:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3C7A183464; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 06:20:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: OSC and I phones and Whiskers on kittens........ Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 23:19:58 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110888 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 06:20:06 +0000 (UTC) Some friends of my wife Nancy just gave us their old I phones so I've downloaded OSC and the Missing link template and fired up a Missing link, and though I have yet to figure out how to program midi program changes in to it to get at all my LP-1 parameters happening . I've already got it running for midi note and cc control and that in itself is adding some cool new capability such as using midi notes to control replace which allows me to replace portions of my loop for as long as i touch the key on the I phones keyboard template, a true sus command that due to laziness, I haven't tried programming my Little Giant to do. Its great for interrupting a percolating loop with a portion of long sustained notes or vise versa, and doing glitchy stutter replaces by hitting the key rapidly. granted i have to take one hand of the instrument to control it but its fun to play one handed at time as well. Also I have programmed a fader array to control volume, feedback, panning and track speed and 4 individual track faders . having the speed on a fader allows me to accurately go to different percentages of the track speed that I could never do with a foot pedal controller, so I can put the loop in another key, record additional content in and then return it to the original key as follows. I'll record content at 100% (normal speed), move it the fader to 75% (3/4 speed), the 50% (half speed). then 37% (3/8 this speed???and finally 25% (1/4 speed) all the while adding new content to the loop. If i'm playing in E minor for example at normal speed, when I go to 75% speed it drops the key to B min, I then add some more stuff, and return to the original key. Recording at these other track speeds can cause some interesting artifacts and overtones. The more I figure this thing out the more i like it. The Missing Link is great for us old school hardware guys who don't want to be left out of the future:-) and want more control over their gear. Additionally, any multi effect with extensive external cc control can really benefit from what an I phone, or touch, or pad, and a Missing Link can do to really mix your effects in real time. I'm looking in to a mic stand adaptor for my I phone and also if anyone has had any luck programming program change information on an OSC template I'd be grateful for some help as so far I'm stymied. Thanks Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 11 06:57:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5DB06183464; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 06:57:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1486 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 06:57:39 UTC Message-Id: <5F542768-A0D3-4F56-B1AE-258F9E365F6E@sonic.net> From: astav To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: FS: Looperlative LP1 Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 23:32:52 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110889 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 06:57:40 +0000 (UTC) Mint condition LP1 for sale. Includes original box, manual, and packaging. $1000 shipped and paypalled. Local pick up available - SF Bay Area. Thanks! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 11 08:11:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8D32183463; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 08:11:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: <8CE0CB6980C5167-13DC-1E221@Webmail-m107.sysops.aol.com> Subject: RE: PITTSBURGH mini fest update Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:11:05 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0032_01CC3FB2.D89ABD50" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Thread-Index: Acw/nJsrZETJWWvmTKGI9xH6b0cJLQABST3Q In-Reply-To: <8CE0CB6980C5167-13DC-1E221@Webmail-m107.sysops.aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: <34f2bC.A.d4E.eArGOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110890 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 08:11:10 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01CC3FB2.D89ABD50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > .....DONUTZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! very tempting !! maybe next year ! I already have so many dates in September, it would be difficult. But I'd love to come and play on the east coast ... Sabine and me are thinking of visiting NYC again anyway to visit some friends and spend time ... it would be great to bring the guitar ... -Michael www.michaelpeters.de ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01CC3FB2.D89ABD50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> .....DONUTZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<= SPAN=20 class=3D500430808-11072011> 
 
very tempting !!  maybe next year = ! I already=20 have so many dates in September, it would be difficult. But I'd love to = come and=20 play on the east coast ... Sabine and me are thinking of visiting = NYC again=20 anyway to visit some friends and spend time ... it would be great to = bring the=20 guitar ...
 
-Michael
www.michaelpeters.de
 
------=_NextPart_000_0032_01CC3FB2.D89ABD50-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 11 11:13:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 17BFD183462; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:13:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:13:03 UTC Message-ID: <17DF166FCC914858AE09CB44E39EF663@INGO> From: "Ingo Ito" To: References: Subject: Re: Original Boss RC-20 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:06:05 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0110_01CC3FCB.4B2700A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110891 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:13:03 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0110_01CC3FCB.4B2700A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ... I=C2=B4ve just checked on e-bay here in Germany and the prices for = used RC-50's range up to 600,- Euros, definitely not below 500,- Euros. = It seems that waiting for a follow-up model might be a better idea, for = the RC-50 prices might drop again. Or the new one is better anyway ;-) I hope Boss/Roland is not replacing the RC-50 with their release of the = RC-30. Cheers Ingo =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Per Boysen=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 10:09 PM Subject: Re: Original Boss RC-20 On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: >> the RC-50 really is the best among those. >> So sad it is going out of production now. > > Probably the best time to sell my RC-50 now... :-) No, the best time to BUY ONE!!!! Per ------=_NextPart_000_0110_01CC3FCB.4B2700A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
... I=C2=B4ve just checked on e-bay = here in Germany and=20 the prices for used RC-50's range up to 600,- Euros, = definitely not=20 below 500,- Euros. It seems that waiting for a follow-up model might be = a better=20 idea, for the RC-50 prices might drop again. Or the new one is = better=20 anyway ;-)
 
I hope Boss/Roland is not = replacing the RC-50=20 with their release of the RC-30.
 
Cheers
 
Ingo
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Per = Boysen=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 = 10:09=20 PM
Subject: Re: Original Boss = RC-20

On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote:
>> = the RC-50=20 really is the best among those.
>> So sad it is going out of=20 production now.
>
> Probably the best time to sell my = RC-50 now...=20 :-)


No, the best time to BUY=20 ONE!!!!

Per
------=_NextPart_000_0110_01CC3FCB.4B2700A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 11 11:51:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD9E3183461; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:51:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E1AE3B8.3020505@soundscapes.us> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 07:51:20 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Thought Radio Playlist for July 9, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110892 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:51:29 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2011/110709.html On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. Each contemporary issue comes with a CD. However, the early issues came with a cassette. The cassettes from issues one through thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic slip covers with artwork and track details. Details are at: http://sequencesmagazine.com On this program, I played music by Mark Jenkins who will play at the Soundscapes Concert Series on Sunday, July 24, at 8:00 pm. http://soundscapes.us Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Jurgen Haible The Beauty of Of Eagles and Prophets (none) Innocence Mark Jenkins Moonchild The iPad Album (AMP) VA [Lambert Way To Way Sequences No. 14 Ringlage] VA [David Wright] Live at London Sequences No. 14 Planetarium A Dancing Beggar Stars Bring Us Follow the Dark As If It Were Closer Light (Audiobulb) Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [Richard Schulman]Meditation 5 Sounds from the Circle III VA [Rieg] The Greem Fairy Sounds from the Circle III Homeless Balloon Ancient City part 1 Ancient City (24 Chillout) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Lana Lane Breathe Intro Gemini (Think Tank) Lana Lane Johnny Moon Gemini (Think Tank) Lana Lane Breathe In the Air Gemini (Think Tank) Lana Lane On the Run Gemini (Think Tank) Lana Lane Time Gemini (Think Tank) Lana Lane Breathe Reprise Gemini (Think Tank) Pink Floyd Shine On You Crazy Pulse (Columbia) Diamond Mary Fahl Us and Them From the Dark Side of the Moon Mary Fahl Any Colour You Like From the Dark Side of the Moon Alan Morse Cold Fusion * Four O'clock and Hysteria (InsideOut) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill Fox ======================================================================== Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EDT/GMT-4. Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music. Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Website - http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 11 12:09:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EEED3183462; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:09:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=f4CNugshcYsGPsPYPTqFWwPqfX76Cm+SJKsK46A2ly0=; b=EEsY+v5xyYaJKBg2MHnnTjyuQt2EvZ0Qr5lhwUEyZdvzW+PIingGRWtxQHQzMrNMZ1 /fzav4wQVVgOnWAuav0wPmGcFXvkuhM0bewBeXCGucw9aZHLmnQE9+DIf0PL8UwvhdF8 1EqtaVJlUtH8e2fvrBcHKe/uEwQg/nnPFQpsU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 08:09:16 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OSC and I phones and Whiskers on kittens........ From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307cfece5ac2d604a7ca0d17 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110893 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:09:17 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307cfece5ac2d604a7ca0d17 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bill I'm intending to try this for Mobius. Sounds like you have made some good discoveries thusfar. Seems like I recall Randolf having some cool attachment to his guitar supporting the his iphone. Thanks for the report. Jim On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 2:19 AM, William Walker wro= te: > Some friends of my wife Nancy just gave us their old I phones so I've > downloaded OSC and the Missing link template and fired up a Missing link, > and though I have yet to figure out how to program midi program changes i= n > to it to get at all my LP-1 parameters happening . I've already got it > running for midi note and cc control and that in itself is adding some co= ol > new capability such as using midi notes to control replace which allows m= e > to replace portions of my loop for as long as i touch the key on the I > phones keyboard template, a true sus command that due to laziness, I have= n't > tried programming my Little Giant to do. Its great for interrupting a > percolating loop with a portion of long sustained notes or vise versa, an= d > doing glitchy stutter replaces by hitting the key rapidly. granted i hav= e > to take one hand of the instrument to control it but its fun to play one > handed at time as well. Also I have programmed a fader array to control > volume, feedback, panning and track speed and 4 individual track faders= . > having the speed on a fader allows me to accurately go to different > percentages of the track speed that I could never do with a foot pedal > controller, so I can put the loop in another key, record additional cont= ent > in and then return it to the original key as follows. I'll record conten= t > at 100% (normal speed), move it the fader to 75% (3/4 speed), the 50% (h= alf > speed). then 37% (3/8 this speed???and finally 25% (1/4 speed) all the wh= ile > adding new content to the loop. If i'm playing in E minor for example at > normal speed, when I go to 75% speed it drops the key to B min, I then ad= d > some more stuff, and return to the original key. Recording at these other > track speeds can cause some interesting artifacts and overtones. The mor= e I > figure this thing out the more i like it. The Missing Link is great for u= s > old school hardware guys who don't want to be left out of the future:-) a= nd > want more control over their gear. Additionally, any multi effect with > extensive external cc control can really benefit from what an I phone, or > touch, or pad, and a Missing Link can do to really mix your effects in r= eal > time. > I'm looking in to a mic stand adaptor for my I phone and also if anyone h= as > had any luck programming program change information on an OSC template I'= d > be grateful for some help as so far I'm stymied. > Thanks > Bill > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf307cfece5ac2d604a7ca0d17 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bill I'm intending to try this for Mobius. =A0Sounds like you have made= some good discoveries thusfar. =A0Seems like I recall Randolf having some = cool attachment to his guitar supporting the his iphone. =A0Thanks for the = report.

Jim

On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 a= t 2:19 AM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:
Some friends of my wife =A0Nancy just gave us their old I phones so I'v= e downloaded OSC and the Missing link template and fired up a Missing link,= and though I have yet to figure out how to program midi program changes in= to it to get at all my =A0LP-1 parameters happening . =A0I've already = got it running for midi note and cc control and that in itself is adding so= me cool new capability such as using midi notes to control replace which al= lows me to replace portions of my loop for as long =A0as i touch the key on= the I phones keyboard template, a true sus command that due to laziness, I= haven't tried programming my Little Giant to do. Its =A0great for inte= rrupting a percolating loop with a portion of long sustained notes or vise = versa, and doing glitchy stutter replaces by hitting the =A0key rapidly. gr= anted i have to take one hand of the instrument to control it but its fun t= o play one handed at time as well. Also I have programmed a fader array to = control =A0volume, =A0feedback, panning and track speed and 4 individual tr= ack faders . having the speed on a fader allows me to accurately go to diff= erent percentages of the track speed that I could never do with a foot peda= l controller, =A0so I can put the loop in another key, record additional co= ntent in =A0and then return it to the original key as follows. I'll rec= ord content at 100% (normal speed), move it the fader =A0to 75% (3/4 speed)= , the 50% (half speed). then 37% (3/8 this speed???and finally 25% (1/4 spe= ed) all the while adding new content to the loop. =A0If i'm playing in = E minor for example at normal speed, when I go to 75% speed it drops the ke= y to B min, I then add some more stuff, and return to the original key. Rec= ording at these other track speeds can cause some interesting artifacts and= overtones. =A0The more I figure this thing out the more i like it. The Mis= sing Link is great for us old school hardware guys who don't want to be= left out of the future:-) and want more control over their gear. Additiona= lly, any multi effect with extensive external cc control can really benefit= from what an I phone, or touch, or pad, =A0and a Missing Link can do to re= ally mix your effects in real time.
I'm looking in to a mic stand adaptor for my I phone and also if anyone= has had any luck programming program change information on an OSC template= I'd be grateful for some help as so far I'm stymied.
=A0Thanks
=A0Bill




--
From Brooklyn To Gli= ndran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6r= n.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.= =A0 j= imgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--20cf307cfece5ac2d604a7ca0d17-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 11 21:54:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9C2918345E; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:54:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 617 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:54:31 UTC Message-ID: <1AA14DF8B3FB4BF0B2D3115315FF3C60@MAC> From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: Subject: signal to noise magazine - interview Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:24:44 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01CC4019.55ADB7F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110894 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:54:31 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01CC4019.55ADB7F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-9" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi to all, there is a long, detailed interview about my works, technical gear etc = at the latest "Signal To Noise" magazine summer 2011 issue. for those = who are interested... http://www.signaltonoisemagazine.org/currentissue.html thanks a lot and best. www.erdemhelvacioglu.com = = ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01CC4019.55ADB7F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-9" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi to all,
 
there is a long, detailed interview = about my works,=20 technical gear etc at the latest "Signal To Noise" magazine summer 2011 = issue.=20 for those who are interested...
 
http://ww= w.signaltonoisemagazine.org/currentissue.html
 
thanks a lot and best.
 
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
 
= = ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01CC4019.55ADB7F0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 12 02:01:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A6F0183462; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 02:01:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=rWmz7fbgrCoOrz6KRoCTQKUutCWmpQj0Skc4uNCRIVA=; b=mAi+i2Yn1xOhAN/23QPBhbhBhQndWKyMl6GM5/sApGyxWlEFqOhIoGZFDWfgoJzYxL 94kO3h2fnUkLTqPjU8dr3imGAgvyq/AaWIrC9D8S9Z9j4QnR0z+YQqx/AvzNOFOBY/HY XH5xD/J/uNZfOFswelsOj54bAJ9SgyrgcXceE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1AA14DF8B3FB4BF0B2D3115315FF3C60@MAC> References: <1AA14DF8B3FB4BF0B2D3115315FF3C60@MAC> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:01:24 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: signal to noise magazine - interview From: Jeffrey Collins To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cdfd4684e057e04a7d5ad2c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110895 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 02:01:26 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cdfd4684e057e04a7d5ad2c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Congrats Erdem. Looking forward to the read. Cheers. Jeffrey 2011/7/11 Erdem Helvacioglu > ** > hi to all, > > there is a long, detailed interview about my works, technical gear etc at > the latest "Signal To Noise" magazine summer 2011 issue. for those who are > interested... > > http://www.signaltonoisemagazine.org/currentissue.html > > thanks a lot and best. > > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com > > --000e0cdfd4684e057e04a7d5ad2c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Congrats Erdem. Looking forward to the read. Cheers. Jeffrey

2011/7/11 Erdem Helvacioglu <erdemhel@tnn.net>
hi to all,
=A0
there is a long, detailed interview ab= out my works,=20 technical gear etc at the latest "Signal To Noise" magazine summe= r 2011 issue.=20 for those who are interested...
=A0
=A0
thanks a lot and best.
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--000e0cdfd4684e057e04a7d5ad2c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 12 02:03:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BAEF8183462; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 02:03:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Xr35+REKdoJiCLrdcgtloEtoMnywJ5GxxqwUG+IyFHQ=; b=mN9fNjsJrkv451qz8rsngjOekyWPVZwI34/HfwVs55Q8ILzX8HFmX1RwysqRgECFCG u7JRxi/pZWCXM5UYVjou62AsMmBcnNhYjZajVzJlw2tzMvjNoC34GCWzLG0qWRsH3YzT wAY1wWePjx7ZVbHGxe60C1d/94GVQ8NECxqzc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:02:59 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: on KFJC tonight From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110896 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 02:03:01 +0000 (UTC) Friends, I'll be on KFJC tonight to promote the Outsound Summit and Touch the Gear. 89.7 fm (near San Francisco) & kfjc.org. I'm on between 8 and 9. I'll be playing tracks by both Touch the Gear participants, and other musicians who use invented instruments, repurposed objects and other unusual sound sources. -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 12 03:38:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F35F183460; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 03:38:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 23:23:40 -0400 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Ugly Beatuy photo essay on flickr Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110897 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 03:38:37 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I posted a new photo essay titled "Ugly Beauty" on Flickr at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157627050182543 I enjoy taking photographs of subjects that are not normally thought of as aesthetically pleasing. I'm emphatically not interested in grotesque, shocking or violent subject matter. I try to make beauty out of ordinary things such as a twig on a wood surface, lines painted on the street, or shadows cast by a fence. I strive to make art from the mundane, and use visual aspects such as light, shadow, texture, juxtaposition and framing to this end. "Ugly Beauty" is the title of a Thelonious Monk composition, and it has long been a mental concept I keep in mind while photographing these images. Minor White's concept of photographing "things for what else they are also inspires this work, and Brian Eno's oblique strategy "Make a blank valuable by putting it in an exquisite frame." plays a role in it as well. In picking images for this photo essay, I was faced with the unusual challenge of deciding whether an image is ugly enough to be included, as well as the more common task of deciding whether the inane is beautiful enough. I hope that viewing these images makes you day a little more beautiful, and helps you to see more beauty in your surroundings. You can send me feedback on this photo essay (or on the whole concept) at emile@foryourhead.com -- " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 12 04:10:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1D3618345E; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 04:10:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=HlAutwgUawx8Gu610e3siTuMweuTrnJWE5d/aurHzi38XIhxjBk9rkbP/y4R83ZF; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <8534101.1310443805189.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:10:04 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: on KFJC tonight Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd486d21edaa532fa61946123238e5c1938972fee374a2a11089350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.30 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110898 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 04:10:06 +0000 (UTC) cool show Matt-hard to figure out all the instruments you were describing tho. -----Original Message----- >From: Matt Davignon >Sent: Jul 11, 2011 7:02 PM >To: Loopers Delight >Subject: on KFJC tonight > >Friends, > >I'll be on KFJC tonight to promote the Outsound Summit and Touch the >Gear. 89.7 fm (near San Francisco) & kfjc.org. I'm on between 8 and 9. >I'll be playing tracks by both Touch the Gear participants, and other >musicians who use invented instruments, repurposed objects and other >unusual sound sources. > >-- >Matt Davignon >mattdavignon@gmail.com >www.ribosomemusic.com >Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com >Rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 12 05:31:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78AFA183460; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 05:31:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <78969325-97F9-4452-A162-6241148B2920@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: signal to noise magazine - interview Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:31:05 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <8iaQSB.A.4bF.hw9GOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110899 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 05:31:13 +0000 (UTC) excellent interview Erdem, congratulations Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 12 06:57:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA60518345F; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 06:57:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <82F9ED9F-ED34-4FDA-87B9-8A0131AED713@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9--713300116 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OSC and I phones and Whiskers on kittens........ Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 23:57:45 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110900 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 06:57:52 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-9--713300116 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill I'm intending to try this for Mobius. Sounds like you have made some good discoveries thus far. Seems like I recall Randolf having some cool attachment to his guitar supporting the his iphone. Thanks for the report. Jim Yes, the thing that Randolph had was really cool, I believe his Klien has more controllers on it than Adrian Belew's Parker Fly! I'm going to suggest he find a way to mount a Kaoss pad on it :-) Then it will be all over..:-) Though if i'm switching instruments that becomes less practical to have it mounted on a guitar, so I've been researching alternatives and they do make microphone stand adaptors which looks like what I'll use,but I'd like to find an adaptor that actually has mic stand threads or camera mount threads rather than a clamping style adaptor which is what I've seen so far. I was finally, able to get my pc messages going and set up a cool template with 20 pc messages, thanks to Hans Lindauer at Missing Link, that i will eventually get in and alter so that I can have basically every function I use covered without having to switch banks on my foot controller. though most critical stuff for timing I would still do with my feet, but commands like quantize replace can now gravitate to the i phone as I rarely capture the initial attack of the note when applying quantize replace to achieve a softer more ambiguous timbre. And the thing is totally click-less!!!!!!! Makes me wonder if any one has yet been able to tame the softstep and make it work for them. Makes me wish I had an I pad, and makes me wish Apple made a foot controller :-) Bill --Apple-Mail-9--713300116 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Bill I'm intending to try this for Mobius. =  Sounds like you have made some good discoveries thus far. =  Seems like I recall Randolf having some cool attachment to his = guitar supporting the his iphone.  Thanks for the = report.

Jim

Yes,
 the thing that Randolph had was really cool, I = believe his Klien has more controllers on it than Adrian Belew's Parker = Fly!
 I'm going to suggest he find a way to mount a = Kaoss pad on it :-) Then it will be all over..:-) Though if i'm = switching instruments that becomes less practical to have it mounted on = a guitar, so I've been researching alternatives and they do make = microphone stand adaptors which looks like what I'll use,but  I'd = like to find an adaptor that actually has mic stand threads or camera = mount threads  rather than a clamping style adaptor which is what = I've seen so far. I was finally, able to get my pc messages going and = set up a cool template with 20 pc messages,  thanks = to Hans Lindauer at Missing Link,  that i = will eventually get in and alter so that I can have basically every = function I use covered without having to switch banks on my foot = controller. though most critical stuff for timing I would still do with = my feet, but commands like quantize replace can now gravitate to the i = phone as I rarely capture the initial attack of the note when applying = quantize replace to achieve a softer more ambiguous timbre. And the = thing is totally click-less!!!!!!! 
Makes me wonder if any one = has yet been able to tame the softstep and make it work for them. =  Makes me wish I had an
 I pad, and makes me = wish Apple made a foot controller :-)
 Bill
= --Apple-Mail-9--713300116-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 12 07:00:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD4B2183461; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 07:00:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:content-type:subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=nMMtAZc5q3QnK9MwfSxaEoHrN2W02c/PvKYeDUEXYZI=; b=DzbAkyYJRfjHJojgwTYVHC7rUs2KHFR3ltOvCae+akWIiR+K6jOneGGHoLEs3NA6BW QpJbL24ApzCEx3H+zteRGDRtmtETrwpOYDGUdf/HXDjstytUHcJgHsBGs+7dmTJsCUAo WDndBP4iUQm8TYI+SbtbY0uNjeEg69SNHQusk= From: Phil Clevenger Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--713127628 Subject: EDP, DirectMIDI, quant, 8ths Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 00:00:37 -0700 Message-Id: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110901 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 07:00:42 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--713127628 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am discovering that LoopIV in the EDP does not seem to have a way to = directly control 8ths/Cycle, Quantize, or SwitchQuant. How are you folks controlling these params with your MIDI controllers? I found this nugget on LD... - - - - - The excel spreadsheet (=20 http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/echoplex/echoplex.html )is great = for=20 all midi commands but wont give you the commands to switch quantize = on/off=20 on the edp.(it is on the LD site this is sys ex domain Quant Cycle F0 00 01 30 0B 01 01 13 02 01 00 01 F7 Quant 8th F0 00 01 30 0B 01 01 13 02 01 00 02 F7 Quant loop F0 00 01 30 0B 01 01 13 02 01 00 03 F7 Quant Off F0 00 01 30 0B 01 01 13 02 01 00 00 F7 Claude - - - - - Is this part of the solution ? Does this code somehow add the ability to = control Quant values with direct MIDI? SysEx frightens me... Many thanks, Phil :) --Apple-Mail-1--713127628 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I am discovering that LoopIV in the EDP does not seem to have a way to directly  control 8ths/Cycle, Quantize, or SwitchQuant.

How are you folks controlling these params with your MIDI controllers?

I found this nugget on LD...

- - - - -

The excel spreadsheet ( 
http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/echoplex/echoplex.html )is great for 
all midi commands but wont give you the commands to switch quantize on/off 
on the edp.(it is on the LD site
this is sys ex domain

Quant Cycle
F0 00 01 30 0B 01 01 13 02 01 00 01 F7
Quant 8th
F0 00 01 30 0B 01 01 13 02 01 00 02 F7
Quant loop
F0 00 01 30 0B 01 01 13 02 01 00 03 F7
Quant Off
F0 00 01 30 0B 01 01 13 02 01 00 00 F7

Claude
- - - - -

Is this part of the solution ? Does this code somehow add the ability to control Quant values with direct MIDI? SysEx frightens me...

Many thanks,

Phil :)

--Apple-Mail-1--713127628-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 12 08:38:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94194183460; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 08:38:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GDoLlB6fdRg5HY49RygYxzjBWMkiWqDi17A0S/QdZI0=; b=JMZO/4jbCN6u38ZWTEUfY9hQ16cJjREtsn0A+4uZDO4vyl8CQ5Iy0i98Sp5tErE5CQ KpMg/DCiRvnJ0GADFQGj1MVyGis32wm4VJNXMIT+O3/Z5nv4kLPi1otzW1oZfZ985Hgo IbwvQhbLWWEe7IH9hooew1cIGb3N9S/WszMY0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <82F9ED9F-ED34-4FDA-87B9-8A0131AED713@baymoon.com> References: <82F9ED9F-ED34-4FDA-87B9-8A0131AED713@baymoon.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 10:38:51 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OSC and I phones and Whiskers on kittens........ From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110902 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 08:38:52 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 8:57 AM, William Walker wr= ote: > wish I had an > =C2=A0I pad, and makes me wish Apple made a foot controller :-) Put the ipad on the floor and toe it? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 12 15:28:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D688183462; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 15:28:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=5bKn6MABqBIn5w9NLppGFe21VRgL6ri/l5+3wFbZ1Fo=; b=fnYMq4O7vVCP2Zsv7qw43L2tXlrbSvU/bUqn+2bpyvssXaqrLi+Drhlpkd9jyjdg2f 4yo/C/vASuBFS+HdTYBYRIJQhGrvZDLXwKyB2zVgZr8RJRsCRq9MTa2cx2dagIf2/4gj UWEUd0D9Lov+9E27nAmIfucU7B1rYNMtC7T7E= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:28:13 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Dropbox and PayPal From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517740bc8b778ee04a7e0f2e1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110903 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 15:28:15 +0000 (UTC) --001517740bc8b778ee04a7e0f2e1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks everyone for the input. Best, -Petri- 2011/7/5 Dennis Moser > Petri, > > Basically echoing the same sentiments here, with one adviso: > > If you're concerned about the security of Dropbox (and there is good > reason to be, after this last go-around), you might look into using > Spider Oak (https://spideroak.com/) which is significantly more secure > (at least for now: like Jeff says, it's a moving target). > > PayPal is good once you get verified. > > Best, > > Dennis > > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > > > On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Petri Lahtinen > wrote: > > A couple of services that I use as a musician a lot, have updated their > user > > agreements, > > ones mentioned in the header of this post. > > I tried reading the updated agreements, could not find anything > suspicious. > > On the other hand, regarding the Dropbox's latest update, there has been > > really strong > > discussion about it. > > > > Has anyone on the list had time to review these and what are your > opinions? > > > > Greetings from Finland, > > > > -- > > Petri Lahtinen > > > > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > > > > > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com --001517740bc8b778ee04a7e0f2e1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks everyone for the input.

Best,

-Petri-

2011/7/5 Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com>
Petri,

Basically echoing the same sentiments here, with one adviso:

If you're concerned about the security of Dropbox (and there is good reason to be, after this last go-around), you might look into using
Spider Oak (https://sp= ideroak.com/) which is significantly more secure
(at least for now: like Jeff says, it's a moving target).

PayPal is good once you get verified.

Best,

Dennis

http://soundclo= ud.com/usrsbin
http://audiozoloft.com=
http://usrsla= shsbin.angrek.com/



On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Petri Lahtinen
<kollegavalmentaja@gmail.= com> wrote:
> A couple of services that I use as a musician a lot, have updated thei= r user
> agreements,
> ones mentioned in the header of this post.
> I tried reading the updated agreements, could not find anything suspic= ious.
> On the other hand, regarding the Dropbox's latest update, there ha= s been
> really strong
> discussion about it.
>
> Has anyone on the list had time to review these and what are your opin= ions?
>
> Greetings from Finland,
>
> --
> Petri Lahtinen
>
> http://www.= petrilahtinen.com
>
>




--
Petri Lahti= nen

http:= //www.petrilahtinen.com

--001517740bc8b778ee04a7e0f2e1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 12 15:43:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44E2F183461; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 15:43:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=+lgjJUfZeMRUBCNucmHSE52oeN1mlwdygyqxUwMmqRI=; b=DouyDtbdKn3KsEDjyCXfTabMjEo0+cHp8AesC8q3q0faj1SKup8G9h5nBkukd109FZ +kvt6dPqCxEhW2b3gPyKckAfk/JijYtBthl3XtSiD6nJDuZ5X+ypcV5ziBPfBOTgCkle EoaRsTcknhObXfYChytvb8Ag0szCooEgt6aqc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <17DF166FCC914858AE09CB44E39EF663@INGO> References: <17DF166FCC914858AE09CB44E39EF663@INGO> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:43:45 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Original Boss RC-20 From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8b4840698a04a7e12a2e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110904 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 15:43:46 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8b4840698a04a7e12a2e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It really seems that RC-50 is discontinued and being replaced with RC-30 now. Probably too good for the market, was the case with RC-50. There are more buyers for smaller loopers, and as my music store worker friend said, he held RC-50 in the shelf for two years. Smaller loopers move faster. Dont know if the BOSS is going to announce a looper with more than 2 loops, but this is what I have learned through my contacts -Petri Lahtinen- 2011/7/11 Ingo Ito > ** > ... I=B4ve just checked on e-bay here in Germany and the prices for used > RC-50's range up to 600,- Euros, definitely not below 500,- Euros. It see= ms > that waiting for a follow-up model might be a better idea, for the RC-50 > prices might drop again. Or the new one is better anyway ;-) > > I hope Boss/Roland is not replacing the RC-50 with their release of the > RC-30. > > Cheers > > Ingo > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Per Boysen > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Saturday, July 09, 2011 10:09 PM > *Subject:* Re: Original Boss RC-20 > > On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > >> the RC-50 really is the best among those. > >> So sad it is going out of production now. > > > > Probably the best time to sell my RC-50 now... :-) > > > No, the best time to BUY ONE!!!! > > Per > > --=20 Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com --90e6ba6e8b4840698a04a7e12a2e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It really seems that RC-50 is discontinued
and being replaced with RC-30= now.

Probably too good for the market, was the case with RC-50.
= There are more buyers for smaller loopers, and as my
music store worker = friend said, he held RC-50 in the shelf for two years.
Smaller loopers move faster.

Dont know if the BOSS is going to annou= nce a looper with more than 2 loops,
but this is what I have learned thr= ough my contacts

-Petri Lahtinen-

2011/7/11 Ingo Ito <ingoito@itofarm.com>
... I=B4ve just checked on e-bay here = in Germany and=20 the prices for used RC-50's range=A0up to=A0600,- Euros, definitely not= =20 below 500,- Euros. It seems that waiting for a follow-up model might be a b= etter=20 idea, for the RC-50 prices might drop again. Or=A0the new one is better=20 anyway ;-)
=A0
I hope Boss/Roland is not replacing=A0= the RC-50=20 with their release of the RC-30.
=A0
Cheers
=A0
Ingo
=A0
=A0
=A0
=A0
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Per Boysen=20
Sent: Sat= urday, July 09, 2011 10:09=20 PM
Subject: Re: Original Boss RC-20<= /div>

On Sat, Jul 9, 201= 1 at 9:44 PM, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote:
>> the RC-50=20 really is the best among those.
>> So sad it is going out of=20 production now.
>
> Probably the best time to sell my RC-50 n= ow...=20 :-)


No, the best time to BUY=20 ONE!!!!

Per



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Petri Lahtinen

<= a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.petril= ahtinen.com

--90e6ba6e8b4840698a04a7e12a2e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 12 15:52:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0BE57183474; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 15:52:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Original Boss RC-20 From: john floridis In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 09:52:18 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <17DF166FCC914858AE09CB44E39EF663@INGO> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110905 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 15:52:20 +0000 (UTC) I hope that the RC 30 is not the "solution" from Boss for more than one = loop. Though they are two "phrases" in some ways, whatever the length = is of the first recorded loop, the second can be no longer....unless I = totally missed something when I tried one. One thought.....isn't the summer NAMM show in a couple of weeks? Is it = possible that they might have something coming out then? Just seem = ironic that they discontinue the RC 50 right before hand. John= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 12 15:53:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6EBD183466; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 15:53:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Boomerang III- "All Stop" Function From: john floridis In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 09:53:50 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <17DF166FCC914858AE09CB44E39EF663@INGO> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <-puGND.A.rjF.Q4GHOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110906 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 15:53:52 +0000 (UTC) Does anyone know if the Boomerang has a way to set one of those switches = to a simple "all stop" function? I have found this very useful on the = RC 50. John= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 12 16:01:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8978183474; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 16:01:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=tKWDeirzmm6Cqzxfe609wA7dXFrAl4KXGPMYPyY9SKs=; b=Xk0hXRI7a79yaLiCvEQn5Bg4bc3PF0r4un5whEJgeRd7alNeVLQ2VbEpvlyVvsnqTu xYmcBKZr2wOba64n9w31cSFRDGEfu/Y2wk6A5gtYIjCjZsbMs9W/NPfEtJ7dU25F39fb bx4ViKuP/IuH+2Q6nDE3//3TDSibBoC1w+9vU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <17DF166FCC914858AE09CB44E39EF663@INGO> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:01:56 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Original Boss RC-20 From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517740b0a4c650f04a7e16b49 Resent-Message-ID: <7220UD.A.NuF.1_GHOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110907 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 16:01:57 +0000 (UTC) --001517740b0a4c650f04a7e16b49 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 In NAMM that was in January. RC-30 AND RC-3 were announced, I bought RC-30 right away. Would be really weird if they'd announce more products in Summer NAMM. My guess is that the bigger, more feature-laden loopers just dont sell the quantities that keep a product line alive at BOSS. 2011/7/12 john floridis > I hope that the RC 30 is not the "solution" from Boss for more than one > loop. Though they are two "phrases" in some ways, whatever the length is of > the first recorded loop, the second can be no longer....unless I totally > missed something when I tried one. > > One thought.....isn't the summer NAMM show in a couple of weeks? Is it > possible that they might have something coming out then? Just seem ironic > that they discontinue the RC 50 right before hand. > > John > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com --001517740b0a4c650f04a7e16b49 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In NAMM that was in January. RC-30 AND RC-3 were announced, I bought RC-30 = right away.

Would be really weird if they'd announce more produc= ts in Summer NAMM.

My guess is that the bigger, more feature-laden l= oopers just dont
sell the quantities that keep a product line alive at BOSS.


2011/7/12 john floridis <john@johnfloridis.com>
=
I hope that the RC 30 is not the "solution" from Boss for more th= an one loop. =A0Though they are two "phrases" in some ways, whate= ver the length is of the first recorded loop, the second can be no longer..= ..unless I totally missed something when I tried one.

One thought.....isn't the summer NAMM show in a couple of weeks? =A0Is = it possible that they might have something coming out then? =A0Just seem ir= onic that they discontinue the RC 50 right before hand.

John



--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www= .petrilahtinen.com

--001517740b0a4c650f04a7e16b49-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 12 16:18:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9799818347A; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 16:18:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Original Boss RC-20 From: john floridis In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 10:18:18 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9245CDC6-03ED-4EF6-BCB0-D52412E6F667@johnfloridis.com> References: <17DF166FCC914858AE09CB44E39EF663@INGO> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <8YMU4B.A.3DG.MPHHOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110908 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 16:18:20 +0000 (UTC) Unfortunately, I think you're probably right. Part of the reason behind = my follow up question about the "all stop" function on the Boomerang. John= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 12 17:10:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 49FD3183464; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:10:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 181408.44033.bm@omp1012.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1310490622; bh=eaU6x0dVB9n61oay38csABdz6E0VuYZ1wp4ki89TK/A=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wN/88FFyD4UZXfnvbc/JD32KUzz7coayhCJzsv9OJz5AGXUEuhZURrZV204cmCy8RBMtEnJK6pkYM5AuqjYkVJxx2DLyXe3HKxPaK+PeWzkySrRRSWx5R52VABxzVfsKYlt++TGQ4vgZGRpkY1WPt4Qijs23WiWczWg7LzIb40s= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZQ11kR5nZ21C9qeo/8jDYDavP3fhZs7sBOWR2Z7yxhfLYXTOKNkVgYmilbZ7EY5VbX5LXK5ybbuBLqcVMYk1QUOyE+d/3bYlQqF0xNwWoGH+szI6ki2DFACwIMfJ6Mri7+u/gSSQ9oO+5kDZOKPk2aoBj5MCnammxZ39V6oUsaw=; X-YMail-OSG: QBnhUCYVM1nLr0kxmM66RsE80yULFXzbRIevukqppF9Tct4 1hwcp1QpPxvTAOeIwye_9j2HInGIZ5JKSFcsf4p2PutqI84jXaXgnOT2XDEp drZMfDMuaWwlv_Of4RMRJKxvmZGPfwReURDK46ojp8hmqhmupLskWtqs40RU MllnMN4giSAGui_V09lpWQYKzKLtSrHEDuAqCPTelBSxshbnuQLdxn4p3Pwu DOqzXd6UdcAItCSLshZ7oI9.O3.E0R2zNPHe2.lOcWemNsKWC80VcyMffBmn qKQvFPo4j6wS9eoQfY_dVbDikd6uUmDKEy_FMOpf4RLjcQBQGelSn5jx9NsC 1hVbdGcOuR82DpyqBhCAJYLMzdopFToZhwe.js0f9s1wZRDnsQTb7oKgpz1p PJ.Ta9ofRGMCKrYYB0PuHmvGnKGz9VcM8xDxYFqrTndhjsXuTqixVH3hW3ms J2gqAe40OCpd49IYem0QVy.f8QthvD1lAKHIhN.4Ufu90O2MjmFBWzVfWA1H q6nmSTvy5tdVMn2SQMCMDm5BM_xQWzXmkb0.qVKoICxQc5vXUZzmsaFx31Ym JaQz9GMm5nsSpdOBtespoQcQaKA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.112.307740 Message-ID: <1310490622.11820.YahooMailClassic@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 10:10:22 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Subject: Re: signal to noise magazine - interview To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <1AA14DF8B3FB4BF0B2D3115315FF3C60@MAC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-336764533-1310490622=:11820" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110909 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:10:24 +0000 (UTC) --0-336764533-1310490622=:11820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0 Not wanting to steal any of Erdem's well-deserved thunder, but my review of= =A0local freaky music fest "Open Ears" appears in the same issue. =A0 Pity that StN is ceasing quarterly publication and turning into an annual, = though... =A0 =A0 ted. Or would you sing somethin' different. Somethin' real. Somethin' *you* felt= . Cause I'm telling you right now, that's the kind of song people want to h= ear. That's the kind of song that truly saves people. It ain't got nothin t= o do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with believin' in yourse= lf. Sam Phillips, "Walk the Line" --- On Mon, 7/11/11, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: From: Erdem Helvacioglu Subject: signal to noise magazine - interview To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Received: Monday, July 11, 2011, 12:24 PM hi to all, =A0 there is a long, detailed interview about my works, technical gear etc at t= he latest "Signal To Noise" magazine summer 2011 issue. for those who are i= nterested... =A0 http://www.signaltonoisemagazine.org/currentissue.html =A0 thanks a lot and best. =A0 www.erdemhelvacioglu.com =A0 --0-336764533-1310490622=:11820 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Not wanting to steal any of Erdem's well-deserved thunder, but my revi= ew of local freaky music fest "Open Ears" appears in the same issue.
 
Pity that StN is ceasing quarterly publication and turning into an ann= ual, though...
 
 
ted.

Or would you sing somethin' different. Somethin' real. Som= ethin' *you* felt. Cause I'm telling you right now, that's the kind of song= people want to hear. That's the kind of song that truly saves people. It a= in't got nothin to do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with be= lievin' in yourself. Sam Phillips, "Walk the Line"

--- On Mon, 7/= 11/11, Erdem Helvacioglu <erdemhel@tnn.net> wrote:

From: Erdem Helvacioglu <erdemhel@tnn.net><= BR>Subject: signal to noise magazine - interview
To: Loopers-Delight@loo= pers-delight.com
Received: Monday, July 11, 2011, 12:24 PM

hi to all,
 
there is a long, detailed interview about = my works, technical gear etc at the latest "Signal To Noise" magazine summe= r 2011 issue. for those who are interested...
 
 
thanks a lot and best.
 
 
--0-336764533-1310490622=:11820-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 12 17:13:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9510B183489; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:13:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=gWFJOe29NXIyTv5hvgDZtRFGRADjEY6FDPLcp6p2+EY=; b=FUgDYhT0K9MV2ylZWhBiYCj2ED8DW4+nKnBTAsfRx3gYhU1nX6c7C4X8QwVH7Wd2Q8 7yHxkKVwBtpbEhvtzTeKcSHpzFnD1sZaH3Hg3K/odwUAv0S+Rr1CuruCXetsWVNw0B56 s0dkwH3VuCFbaq5l/2mHoZngdWaQVUXdm65Hc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <17DF166FCC914858AE09CB44E39EF663@INGO> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:13:54 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Original Boss RC-20 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110910 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:13:55 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > It really seems that RC-50 is discontinued > and being replaced with RC-30 now. No, they are two very different products. I just spent a week with two RC-30's so I had a chance to check them out together with my live looping students. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 12 17:30:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CFE3618348F; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:30:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=9jIqW5faNpFe1L0drTItCl5NytDht47pNQLOXxBlvgY=; b=pFIcQ3wl/stQr/wbBPLtpsb77xMPxRO+wgZVtDdNd1bfBcKKqpYNFHWcEgBKOqr9yb uveIyy70omFMSYk/7sWqwrS+Rclr485FtJ9HRRuSVoOf6PhoIruMb5XOaQngtvD6kjlV LjaSCf5j1o3YwlMaOPoCqUlfogp/AS7k2HzkE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1310490622.11820.YahooMailClassic@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1AA14DF8B3FB4BF0B2D3115315FF3C60@MAC> <1310490622.11820.YahooMailClassic@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:30:14 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: signal to noise magazine - interview From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110911 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:30:15 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:10 PM, ditch wrestler wrote: > > Not wanting to steal any of Erdem's well-deserved thunder, but my review of > local freaky music fest "Open Ears" appears in the same issue. > Congrats to you both, Ditch and Erdem! > Pity that StN is ceasing quarterly publication and turning into an annual, though... Increasing the Signal To Noise, now reaching a full year! They should change name to Latency To Latitude. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 12 20:01:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39804183475; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 20:01:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1244.3) Subject: Re: Boomerang III- "All Stop" Function From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 13:01:08 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <174E06A9-50F1-41E4-800A-39834EA0F297@grubmah.com> References: <17DF166FCC914858AE09CB44E39EF663@INGO> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1244.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110912 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 20:01:04 +0000 (UTC) On Jul 12, 2011, at 8:53 AM, john floridis wrote: > Does anyone know if the Boomerang has a way to set one of those = switches to a simple "all stop" function? I have found this very useful = on the RC 50. I don't have ready access to my Boomerang right now, but I'm pretty sure = All Stop is an option. The manual is available online. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 12 20:08:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0631183477; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 20:08:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=xfF5S6VmNLPJ//v+oSH6tEvUHYZpJuacXMN8xk+oxh0=; b=kGE9VCNDYEj9XuqGRcskWlC3mdUbQoLoQTUQfN/zOidXt1/Qo+95ucalvjdeoPUWzn gRThMn90Z87atdhcXs5SC11FkFUXkXKHle0pG0VX9dZ6aZ8K5egucbUmiUvCk3T5wA56 Lw5B2n0s6WLMHHfej+D7YiPn5fSHFu2dDqpnY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <17DF166FCC914858AE09CB44E39EF663@INGO> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:08:50 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Original Boss RC-20 From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015176f0b3846ece304a7e4dea3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110913 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 20:08:51 +0000 (UTC) --0015176f0b3846ece304a7e4dea3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes, Per, they are! I didnt mean that in the sense of functionality. Only that the RC-30 may be the most feature-laden, looper that BOSS has now in it's products. I dont know for sure what will the future of RC-50 be, but as far as I know, its quite old and there is no upgrading in sight. But I can be totally wrong, and BOSS is upgrading the RC-50 as I write this... :-) 2011/7/12 Per Boysen > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Petri Lahtinen > wrote: > > It really seems that RC-50 is discontinued > > and being replaced with RC-30 now. > > > No, they are two very different products. I just spent a week with two > RC-30's so I had a chance to check them out together with my live > looping students. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com --0015176f0b3846ece304a7e4dea3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, Per, they are!
I didnt mean that in the sense of functionality.Only that the RC-30 may be the most feature-laden,
looper that BOSS ha= s now in it's products.

I dont know for sure what will the futur= e of RC-50 be,
but as far as I know, its quite old and there is no
upgrading in sight.<= br>
But I can be totally wrong, and BOSS is
upgrading the RC-50 as I= write this... :-)


2011/7/12 Per Boys= en <perboysen@g= mail.com>
On Tue, Jul 12, 2= 011 at 5:43 PM, Petri Lahtinen
<kollegavalmentaja@gmail.= com> wrote:
> It really seems that RC-50 is discontinued
> and being replaced with RC-30 now.


No, they are two very different products. I just spent a week with two
RC-30's so I had a chance to check them out together with my live
looping students.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub




--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www= .petrilahtinen.com

--0015176f0b3846ece304a7e4dea3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 12 20:10:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CE93183486; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 20:10:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=qt/CRCZ+GuWvsE+qTT6bWTCh+SX0kZyZdpmlkAIijvI=; b=HddS9YGazE0/+rUdlQg5yX0r7hFBlx+xMOsMw5wZupCLNiFY9tUcphbmXsDdlXkEHJ xvXhXFLrMRVt19VaLKpwDQGi9u2h6MMKw3SNYvQY7sp0BqIv+zjNm4UkxwjFWrXfXUGo oucpGftPhOVuIOlhtRDoaUjif+pg8fXkkKPqQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <17DF166FCC914858AE09CB44E39EF663@INGO> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:10:30 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Original Boss RC-20 From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517740b0a44399404a7e4e44a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110914 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 20:10:32 +0000 (UTC) --001517740b0a44399404a7e4e44a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 But I know for sure, no new units can be ordered to Finland at least. And this info comes from a very large chain of music stores in Finland. At least this was the info I was given, when I tried to buy RC-50 myself. 2011/7/12 Petri Lahtinen > Yes, Per, they are! > I didnt mean that in the sense of functionality. > Only that the RC-30 may be the most feature-laden, > looper that BOSS has now in it's products. > > I dont know for sure what will the future of RC-50 be, > but as far as I know, its quite old and there is no > upgrading in sight. > > But I can be totally wrong, and BOSS is > upgrading the RC-50 as I write this... :-) > > > > 2011/7/12 Per Boysen > >> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Petri Lahtinen >> wrote: >> > It really seems that RC-50 is discontinued >> > and being replaced with RC-30 now. >> >> >> No, they are two very different products. I just spent a week with two >> RC-30's so I had a chance to check them out together with my live >> looping students. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> www.looproom.com internet music hub >> >> > > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com --001517740b0a44399404a7e4e44a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable But I know for sure, no new units can be ordered to Finland at least.
An= d this info comes from a very large chain of music stores in Finland.
At= least this was the info I was given, when I tried to buy RC-50 myself.

2011/7/12 Petri Lahtinen &= lt;kollegavalmentaja@gmail.c= om>
Yes, Per, they are!
I didnt mean that in the sense of functionality.Only that the RC-30 may be the most feature-laden,
looper that BOSS ha= s now in it's products.

I dont know for sure what will the futur= e of RC-50 be,
but as far as I know, its quite old and there is no
upgrading in sight.<= br>
But I can be totally wrong, and BOSS is
upgrading the RC-50 as I= write this... :-)



2011/7/12 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
On Tue, Jul 12, 2= 011 at 5:43 PM, Petri Lahtinen
<kolleg= avalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
> It really seems that RC-50 is discontinued
> and being replaced with RC-30 now.


No, they are two very different products. I just spent a week with two
RC-30's so I had a chance to check them out together with my live
looping students.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub




<= /div>
--
Petri Lahtinen

http://www.petrilahtinen.com



--
Petri Lahti= nen

http:= //www.petrilahtinen.com

--001517740b0a44399404a7e4e44a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 12 20:26:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D8D4183474; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 20:26:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=SOlsIBN44tkg4MqIq+y2aLZdhoA3kHpmiRsLue6rfnM= c=1 sm=0 a=r5JVTShnxcAA:10 a=p_P8It6jP9UA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=bjue6iMc0PxFzCOyRLaH1w==:17 a=9UlqxmBbAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=-J6Z0mcwvvscPd91dnsA:9 a=G1HZUPWMDM8ZKS1rSfcA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=lu1bFh1h9rAA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=mO3JvaCFxgLfkeBb:21 a=uqS3qm3xQGaQpdAe:21 a=bjue6iMc0PxFzCOyRLaH1w==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 74.76.199.163 From: "Hoby Ebert" To: References: Subject: RE: Boomerang III- "All Stop" Function Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 16:26:07 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 thread-index: AcxA0SkZmdY40wsDSqeAlp17CrZyWQAAIg6A In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110915 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 20:26:12 +0000 (UTC) Yes. You can set one of the Bonus buttons to Play/Stop All. I believe the sidecar (which should be coming soon) has a button dedicated to that function, leaving the Bonus button to be set to another function. -----Original Message----- From: john floridis [mailto:john@johnfloridis.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 11:54 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Boomerang III- "All Stop" Function Does anyone know if the Boomerang has a way to set one of those switches to a simple "all stop" function? I have found this very useful on the RC 50. John From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 12 20:28:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 226C3183478; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 20:28:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=stmSyw8U6nHnYNa9ftoC5uU2CzCaW5eIqiaNr1uaNsebf54pO17kpCICghHH5IXs; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <32138.1310502501265.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 15:28:20 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Grant Reply-To: Grant To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang III- "All Stop" Function Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 4627597e215714c3ca853a8129e90869f402879cecb40bd553134e7a813f8053bb2c3b61fbec5fc2166b73f3e2e85cc1350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.24 Resent-Message-ID: <87Ums.A.4dC.l5KHOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110916 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 20:28:21 +0000 (UTC) One Bonus Button choice is "Play-Stop-All". Seems like that would do the trick. G -----Original Message----- >From: john floridis >Sent: Jul 12, 2011 10:53 AM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Boomerang III- "All Stop" Function > >Does anyone know if the Boomerang has a way to set one of those switches to a simple "all stop" function? I have found this very useful on the RC 50. > >John From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 12 22:03:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83D42183486; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 22:03:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=XMpZKIm1228koSbpFDFWrn284AjQ4crupZkOFOtz6f8=; b=nVtJ6f9rrAyrgdFq+ZHnhXOhPXUD6y26mnalcFYdUder9bdQXIs1Lfaz7lwbo6eZQL XegugmUEOIRf2BFkfcsPQ8L6LTTKXBgoR1MtdUEobmmGG6YlBUmdff8w3Dd/W5qv+3rQ eezU9w8nOMhIllUWj9ZCulFf1DwT0dOTzNRio= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1AA14DF8B3FB4BF0B2D3115315FF3C60@MAC> <1310490622.11820.YahooMailClassic@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:03:08 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: signal to noise magazine - interview From: Jeffrey Collins To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364c7b430e970904a7e677a4 Resent-Message-ID: <-ReyeC.A.l6D.eSMHOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110917 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 22:03:10 +0000 (UTC) --0016364c7b430e970904a7e677a4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ew. They are going to Annual. That's not how a magazine works. That's not even a magazine anymore then. It's not like there's not music to be written. I hope they decide to put it back as a quarterly. J On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:10 PM, ditch wrestler > wrote: > > > > Not wanting to steal any of Erdem's well-deserved thunder, but my review > of > > local freaky music fest "Open Ears" appears in the same issue. > > > > Congrats to you both, Ditch and Erdem! > > > Pity that StN is ceasing quarterly publication and turning into an > annual, though... > > Increasing the Signal To Noise, now reaching a full year! They should > change name to Latency To Latitude. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > --0016364c7b430e970904a7e677a4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ew. They are going to Annual. That's not how a magazine works. That'= ;s not even a magazine anymore then. It's not like there's not musi= c to be written. I hope they decide to put it back as a quarterly.

J

On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 1:30= PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:10 PM, ditch wrestler <ditchwrestler@yahoo.com> wrote= :
>
> Not wanting to steal any of Erdem's well-deserved thunder, but my = review of
> local freaky music fest "Open Ears" appears in the same issu= e.
>

Congrats to you both, Ditch and Erdem!

> Pity that StN is ceasing quarterly publication and turning into an ann= ual, though...

Increasing the Signal To Noise, now reaching a full year! They should=
change name to Latency To Latitude.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub


--0016364c7b430e970904a7e677a4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 12 22:04:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E000183465; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 22:04:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=1b2X7W/SifksZeClH/haT1SUt4udqxFGF00pZw2/jJk= c=1 sm=1 a=Zq2FpVYgtBoA:10 a=r5JVTShnxcAA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=5r4WfH5DhWOvYH0zPWoQZw==:17 a=cejflFS_AAAA:8 a=9UlqxmBbAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=LT1SBt2p95RhmOZk8AAA:9 a=bchf1AlD0GE0q8n4U74A:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=3KtO9EVpv4kA:10 a=lu1bFh1h9rAA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=ddTkpN5Xs05V_D8M:21 a=pbxVsTbcRRiHNrnp:21 a=5r4WfH5DhWOvYH0zPWoQZw==:117 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 15:04:49 -0700 Subject: Re: Boomerang III- "All Stop" Function From: Richard Atkinson To: LOOPERS DELIGHT LIST Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Boomerang III- "All Stop" Function Thread-Index: AcxA0SkZmdY40wsDSqeAlp17CrZyWQAAIg6AAAOBlSM= In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110918 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 22:04:52 +0000 (UTC) +1 Yes, All Stop works peachy on the Boomerang III. My Bonus buttons are set thusly: Bonus 1: Quick Tap = Stop All Long Hold = Fade (in or out) Bonus 2: Quck Tap = Overdub Long Hold = Erase (non running) Track It's a pretty flexible setup, allowing transitions and new loop creation. I haven't really worked with a different setup than that, yet. I might if I end up getting a Sidecar. A cool fave with the Rang III is that overdub stays on when you switch tracks. Super cool for introducing a third theme to link the two separate loops together. Rich On 7/12/11 1:26 PM, "Hoby Ebert" wrote: > Yes. You can set one of the Bonus buttons to Play/Stop All. I believe the > sidecar (which should be coming soon) has a button dedicated to that > function, leaving the Bonus button to be set to another function. > > -----Original Message----- > From: john floridis [mailto:john@johnfloridis.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 11:54 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Boomerang III- "All Stop" Function > > Does anyone know if the Boomerang has a way to set one of those switches to > a simple "all stop" function? I have found this very useful on the RC 50. > > John > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 13 00:59:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 857D2183464; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 00:59:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 507625.15217.bm@omp1051.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1310518741; bh=tAWsV574nBawf9fsbFBeqZ71JuLKZLphIBTm57NJiac=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YP1la/EKCV3UBZGsaZM8r+Yha6H8vaNCb8sG9SMBjwZebsq97FBIIRWsuXMAdHkCa+XrDbVi8srlpu6iPjSqygNzQiH6aPTJkgi2+FO2bQqQ8KLB/erSJOsbcuxdprRAakFiUCcANeYFeJlco9jUu76k5r2gIqpu02STD113+uA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=34kuVsxlLm/6pj6HVuhpDyRqe28S2keXgq8F2j8OsKpD9HQ9plr2flO0jRTQbVOyaqU3zCdcM9aDVyqDQUtXvcs8U/PEtAqD7IxjwS77kJTXU5FzqbiLMhoqI6334StLsg4ylZnA4+tyLHvqlARKE/G3tLQMyZ1Zjavqe3e30Q8=; X-YMail-OSG: NGw9mE0VM1mk5_jtAAb6b2T8BEPt6EH9Vd9dYN8tjyvetPl hkKMrzNGN7w3lzRrpbDTWQdf1C3skFDqhfFeqQ1z.JS0LNzCP.jT2OoKogjq X.9tfOZsK.6Xlt19xwwnnb33eYxb.Ja9t.TtpBh4te_0FZ3qTDAPYT5GfrG8 1qnunbP6476dvc8gsRpHUQyg8L3sukMOFulBzaVoowyD46uutp3xUYsWBir6 R3QEPH3Of7w2NMcrfuXhqVRoJ0QL9Yq4hOA.rkbosfYiUaq9G7Wbu1Edhavf P2ZBbYxeijOXIFTZROfLQJMFNpyUY60TFApF7gWj7ZseQImvtwl9RK1otxtU loDgf1wV.UDY8TFTHZ7ZObr4wwJCSkJMaA9zgAL8ysyOn1tWcH2GznPSKdqG gf5RdWdH2FDFmx2rDdss8xVfErvwvT9WbGYUKhofNIlF0tLlZA5F0f1Pin5H Oan0q7eVeN6T5tf2IwxPAzBcPWIYgYWtHTLuLzbvL5K.bNG3DyJW2BeuxZ6C XdOzmE59kUC4mcCcIPEtUkK9R9.5aXvT70mXED9HDSe5lcBn7_VfoeWNnlg_ ArNShZ59ucF3qZklPsDE9ZxXkpnRVO3SCDTbVJE.t96V87_D3cFA- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.112.307740 Message-ID: <1310518740.24198.YahooMailClassic@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:59:00 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Subject: Re: signal to noise magazine - interview To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2034137353-1310518740=:24198" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110919 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 00:59:02 +0000 (UTC) --0-2034137353-1310518740=:24198 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The StN editor has a new job, I believe, and certainly very few people are = getting rich from music publishing these days so fair enough that he has to= switch focus.=A0 That mag is very much a one-person show. An annual could work but obviously it has to move away from reviews and mov= e to long-form pieces.=A0 I'm currently enjoying the first issue of Loops, = which seems to be coming out once a year, and it's good reading - http://ww= w.loopsjournal.com/ Too bad I can only enjoy the first issue so far as the publisher hasn't see= n fit to an official overseas release of the 2nd issue. ted. Or would you sing somethin' different. Somethin' real. Somethin' *you* felt= . Cause I'm telling you right now, that's the kind of song people want to h= ear. That's the kind of song that truly saves people. It ain't got nothin t= o do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with believin' in yourse= lf. Sam Phillips, "Walk the Line" --- On Tue, 7/12/11, Jeffrey Collins wrote: From: Jeffrey Collins Subject: Re: signal to noise magazine - interview To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Received: Tuesday, July 12, 2011, 3:03 PM Ew. They are going to Annual. That's not how a magazine works. That's not e= ven a magazine anymore then. It's not like there's not music to be written.= I hope they decide to put it back as a quarterly. =0AJ On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Per Boysen wrote: =0AOn Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:10 PM, ditch wrestler wrote: =0A> =0A> Not wanting to steal any of Erdem's well-deserved thunder, but my revi= ew of =0A> local freaky music fest "Open Ears" appears in the same issue. =0A> =0A =0ACongrats to you both, Ditch and Erdem! =0A =0A> Pity that StN is ceasing quarterly publication and turning into an ann= ual, though... =0A =0AIncreasing the Signal To Noise, now reaching a full year! They should =0Achange name to Latency To Latitude. =0A =0AGreetings from Sweden =0A =0APer Boysen =0Awww.boysen.se =0Awww.perboysen.com =0Awww.looproom.com internet music hub =0A =0A =0A --0-2034137353-1310518740=:24198 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The StN editor has a new job, I believe, = and certainly very few people are getting rich from music publishing these = days so fair enough that he has to switch focus.  That mag is very muc= h a one-person show.

An annual could work but obviously it has to mo= ve away from reviews and move to long-form pieces.  I'm currently enjo= ying the first issue of Loops, which seems to be coming out once a year, an= d it's good reading - http://www.loopsjournal.com/

Too bad I can onl= y enjoy the first issue so far as the publisher hasn't seen fit to an offic= ial overseas release of the 2nd issue.


ted.

Or would you = sing somethin' different. Somethin' real. Somethin' *you* felt. Cause I'm t= elling you right now, that's the kind of song people want to hear. That's t= he kind of song that truly saves people. It ain't got nothin to do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with believin' in yourself. Sam= Phillips, "Walk the Line"

--- On Tue, 7/12/11, Jeffrey Collins <= i><jeffreycollins1975@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Jeffrey Collins <jeffreycollins1975@gmail.com>
S= ubject: Re: signal to noise magazine - interview
To: Loopers-Delight@loo= pers-delight.com
Received: Tuesday, July 12, 2011, 3:03 PM

Ew. They are going to Annual. That's not how a magazine= works. That's not even a magazine anymore then. It's not like there's not = music to be written. I hope they decide to put it back as a quarterly.
=
=0A
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On Tue, = Jul 12, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
=0A
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:10 PM, ditch wrestler <ditchwrestler@yahoo.com> wrote= :
=0A>
=0A> Not wanting to steal any of Erdem's well-deserved t= hunder, but my review of
=0A> local freaky music fest "Open Ears" app= ears in the same issue.
=0A>
=0A
=0A
Congrats to you both,= Ditch and Erdem!
=0A

=0A> Pity tha= t StN is ceasing quarterly publication and turning into an annual, though..= .
=0A
=0A
Increasing the Signal To Noise, now reaching a full ye= ar! They should
=0Achange name to Latency To Latitude.
=0A
=0AGree= tings from Sweden
=0A
=0APer Boysen
=0Awww.boysen= .se
=0Awww.perboysen.com
=0Awww.looproom.com internet music hub<= br>=0A
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--0-2034137353-1310518740=:24198-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 13 05:12:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C1EE183462; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 05:12:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E1D2948.8020600@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 22:12:40 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Per Boysen CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: OSC and I phones and Whiskers on kittens........ References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110920 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 05:12:48 +0000 (UTC) > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 8:57 AM, William Walker wrote: >> wish I had an >> I pad, and makes me wish Apple made a foot controller :-) > Per answered: Put the ipad on the floor and toe it? > > you are a genius, Per Boysen! rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 13 07:53:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 49548183463; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 07:53:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=UeIXKRQqLm5rjVX6RINt8RulVKFUzPdcECchHNP2y3M=; b=sZTIgVjGajbXHDDYeme3zD32YnJPQac6wXSzjzJKIEtopt4xynFs7FEnybjAshZiOO tOSJGld8vSoo77QGCc25JlbOYym7RM2GiOz4VcDYO2hWFH3Xpc40WNUeJzs2dj4IqLSq a8OJUUuFmJXPp2MupYWx11rqFmYH2pcePrPoA= From: Phil Clevenger Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-26--623568217 Subject: Re: EDP, DirectMIDI, quant, 8ths Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 00:53:17 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <7D6B0D6D-1061-413D-BBB0-F4DF39D7DA39@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110921 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 07:53:23 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-26--623568217 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The silence of the EDP elders on this subject seemed to be saying to me, = "The answer is in your own hands already, grasshopper."=20 And so it was. After wrestling with it for days, the nugget below and = the EDP+ manual eventually pried the scales from my eyes and I've been a = SysEx programming fool all night. A mapping scheme for my FC-300 is = finally emerging that allows me to PLAY the EDP for a change (no more = faceplate fingering!), and to control the LP-1 as well. Will likely = change over time but it is so much better than the previous state of = affairs around here. So SysEx is not so scary after all. Ugly as hell, = but not scary :) On the other hand, the silence of the EDP elders may have instead been = saying, "Dude, quit messing around with 15-year old hardware and call us = again when you get some looping software and join the rest of us in the = bright and shining future." Who can tell.. ;) Best from the land of n00b, Phil :) On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:00 AM, Phil Clevenger wrote: > I am discovering that LoopIV in the EDP does not seem to have a way to = directly control 8ths/Cycle, Quantize, or SwitchQuant. >=20 > How are you folks controlling these params with your MIDI controllers? >=20 > I found this nugget on LD... >=20 > - - - - - >=20 > The excel spreadsheet (=20 > http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/echoplex/echoplex.html )is great = for=20 > all midi commands but wont give you the commands to switch quantize = on/off=20 > on the edp.(it is on the LD site > this is sys ex domain >=20 > Quant Cycle > F0 00 01 30 0B 01 01 13 02 01 00 01 F7 > Quant 8th > F0 00 01 30 0B 01 01 13 02 01 00 02 F7 > Quant loop > F0 00 01 30 0B 01 01 13 02 01 00 03 F7 > Quant Off > F0 00 01 30 0B 01 01 13 02 01 00 00 F7 >=20 > Claude > - - - - - >=20 > Is this part of the solution ? Does this code somehow add the ability = to control Quant values with direct MIDI? SysEx frightens me... >=20 > Many thanks, >=20 > Phil :) >=20 --Apple-Mail-26--623568217 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii The = silence of the EDP elders on this subject seemed to be saying to me, = "The answer is in your own hands already, = grasshopper." 

And so it was. After wrestling = with it for days, the nugget below and the EDP+ manual eventually pried = the scales from my eyes and I've been a SysEx programming fool all = night. A mapping scheme for my FC-300 is finally emerging that allows me = to PLAY the EDP for a change  (no more faceplate fingering!), and = to control the LP-1 as well. Will likely change over time but it is so = much better than the previous state of affairs around here. So SysEx is = not so scary after all. Ugly as hell, but not scary = :)

On the other hand, the silence of the EDP = elders may have instead been saying, "Dude, quit messing around with = 15-year old hardware and call us again when you get some looping = software and join the rest of us in the bright and shining future." Who = can tell.. ;)

Best from the land of = n00b,

Phil = :)




On= Jul 12, 2011, at 12:00 AM, Phil Clevenger wrote:

I am discovering that = LoopIV in the EDP does not seem to have a way to directly  control = 8ths/Cycle, Quantize, or SwitchQuant.

How are = you folks controlling these params with your MIDI = controllers?

I found this nugget on = LD...

- - - - = -

The excel spreadsheet (=20
http:=
//www.loopers-delight.com/tools/echoplex/echoplex.html )is great for=20=

all midi commands but wont give you the commands to switch quantize =
on/off=20
on the edp.(it is on the LD site
this is sys ex domain

Quant Cycle
F0 00 01 30 0B 01 01 13 02 01 00 01 F7
Quant 8th
F0 00 01 30 0B 01 01 13 02 01 00 02 F7
Quant loop
F0 00 01 30 0B 01 01 13 02 01 00 03 F7
Quant Off
F0 00 01 30 0B 01 01 13 02 01 00 00 F7

Claude
- - - - -

Is this part of the = solution ? Does this code somehow add the ability to control Quant = values with direct MIDI? SysEx frightens = me...

Many = thanks,

Phil = :)


= --Apple-Mail-26--623568217-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 13 10:55:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A7554183465; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 10:55:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=Sin8Vf6hFvJvlbJYkxt0ChuJ1EegFkce4hsAauy9OmQ=; b=Omxm9Ovo08w5KVHFBJY9TRUo8dO5gLpDX8UV/WS2HMVYwUeAJKrCgyhcIS8hX4UxYs gaRjD+NapdFMdYQJ04Ab9fxx2zsb/TaZGgwydBWr95ZwaWh2nriB3ZaC2UrU8HEDX8hM Tq2Sgbo2QOwrJLTPzxdmBIOq2VIAaHH7bSt5M= References: <7D6B0D6D-1061-413D-BBB0-F4DF39D7DA39@gmail.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: <7D6B0D6D-1061-413D-BBB0-F4DF39D7DA39@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8J2) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 12:54:54 +0200 Message-ID: <1828648096741992410@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: EDP, DirectMIDI, quant, 8ths To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549e778bb38c04a7f140c0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110922 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 10:55:20 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549e778bb38c04a7f140c0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I Think the way these function are supposed to be controlled using the EDP methodology is to save them as presets.... But sounds like you're well on the way to developing an awesome set up. I would love to swap one of my edps for a LP1... And go for a system like you!!! Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 13 Jul 2011, at 09:53, Phil Clevenger wrote: The silence of the EDP elders on this subject seemed to be saying to me, "The answer is in your own hands already, grasshopper." And so it was. After wrestling with it for days, the nugget below and the EDP+ manual eventually pried the scales from my eyes and I've been a SysEx programming fool all night. A mapping scheme for my FC-300 is finally emerging that allows me to PLAY the EDP for a change (no more faceplate fingering!), and to control the LP-1 as well. Will likely change over time but it is so much better than the previous state of affairs around here. So SysEx is not so scary after all. Ugly as hell, but not scary :) On the other hand, the silence of the EDP elders may have instead been saying, "Dude, quit messing around with 15-year old hardware and call us again when you get some looping software and join the rest of us in the bright and shining future." Who can tell.. ;) Best from the land of n00b, Phil :) On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:00 AM, Phil Clevenger wrote: I am discovering that LoopIV in the EDP does not seem to have a way to directly control 8ths/Cycle, Quantize, or SwitchQuant. How are you folks controlling these params with your MIDI controllers? I found this nugget on LD... - - - - - The excel spreadsheet ( http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/echoplex/echoplex.html )is great for all midi commands but wont give you the commands to switch quantize on/off on the edp.(it is on the LD site this is sys ex domain Quant Cycle F0 00 01 30 0B 01 01 13 02 01 00 01 F7 Quant 8th F0 00 01 30 0B 01 01 13 02 01 00 02 F7 Quant loop F0 00 01 30 0B 01 01 13 02 01 00 03 F7 Quant Off F0 00 01 30 0B 01 01 13 02 01 00 00 F7 Claude - - - - - Is this part of the solution ? Does this code somehow add the ability to control Quant values with direct MIDI? SysEx frightens me... Many thanks, Phil :) --20cf30549e778bb38c04a7f140c0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I Think the way these function are sup= posed to be controlled using the EDP methodology is to save them as presets= .... But sounds like you're well on the way to developing an awesome se= t up. I would love to swap one of my edps for a LP1... And go for a system = like you!!!

Sent from my (advertisement removed)

On 13 Jul 2011, at 0= 9:53, Phil Clevenger <phil.c= levenger@gmail.com> wrote:

The silence of the EDP elders on this subject seemed to be saying to m= e, "The answer is in your own hands already, grasshopper."=A0
And so it was. After wrestling with it for days, the nugget= below and the EDP+ manual eventually pried the scales from my eyes and I&#= 39;ve been a SysEx programming fool all night. A mapping scheme for my FC-3= 00 is finally emerging that allows me to PLAY the EDP for a change =A0(no m= ore faceplate fingering!), and to control the LP-1 as well. Will likely cha= nge over time but it is so much better than the previous state of affairs a= round here. So SysEx is not so scary after all. Ugly as hell, but not scary= :)

On the other hand, the silence of the EDP elders may ha= ve instead been saying, "Dude, quit messing around with 15-year old ha= rdware and call us again when you get some looping software and join the re= st of us in the bright and shining future." Who can tell.. ;)

Best from the land of n00b,

Ph= il :)




= On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:00 AM, Phil Clevenger wrote:

I am discovering tha= t LoopIV in the EDP does not seem to have a way to directly =A0control 8ths= /Cycle, Quantize, or SwitchQuant.

How are you folks controlling these params with your MI= DI controllers?

I found this nugget on LD...
=

- - - - -

The excel sprea=
dsheet (=20
http:/=
/www.loopers-delight.com/tools/echoplex/echoplex.html )is great for=
=20
all midi commands but wont give you the commands to switch quantize on/off=
=20
on the edp.(it is on the LD site
this is sys ex domain

Quant Cycle
F0 00 01 30 0B 01 01 13 02 01 00 01 F7
Quant 8th
F0 00 01 30 0B 01 01 13 02 01 00 02 F7
Quant loop
F0 00 01 30 0B 01 01 13 02 01 00 03 F7
Quant Off
F0 00 01 30 0B 01 01 13 02 01 00 00 F7

Claude
- - - - -

Is this part of the sol= ution ? Does this code somehow add the ability to control Quant values with= direct MIDI? SysEx frightens me...

Many thanks,

Phil :)


--20cf30549e778bb38c04a7f140c0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 13 11:24:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF536183460; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 11:24:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1xBtbFf7kMolTzaF5P4d4ZmKKsvu+dLzuqWqG4tBaPw=; b=QMEF8+IXEvWLkh0S8llBQonGLUEUhUm/0BNLfqWpWLOUAv8XIq50Bm68iV/4SOhTOX pEWstI674tSYP4mzDKAQ+viIapATD7IM08bunyl8LggYDBWV8BXCJ6AhQsC7e4FWV6kL aSekilzP8yzmTNysGgO/GgAx6qQAt1FFXk4g0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1828648096741992410@unknownmsgid> References: <7D6B0D6D-1061-413D-BBB0-F4DF39D7DA39@gmail.com> <1828648096741992410@unknownmsgid> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 13:24:05 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EDP, DirectMIDI, quant, 8ths From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110923 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 11:24:05 +0000 (UTC) > On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:00 AM, Phil Clevenger wrote: > > I am discovering that LoopIV in the EDP does not seem to have a way to > directly =C2=A0control 8ths/Cycle, Quantize, or SwitchQuant. > How are you folks controlling these params with your MIDI controllers? BAck when I was using an EDP I mocked up a bunch of presets with different useful combinations of those settings and then I simply sent external MIDI Program Change from my pedalboard to call up the preset needed at any moment. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 13 19:05:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B263183473; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 19:05:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: EDP, DirectMIDI, quant, 8ths From: Phil Clevenger In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 12:05:42 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: <7D6B0D6D-1061-413D-BBB0-F4DF39D7DA39@gmail.com> <1828648096741992410@unknownmsgid> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110924 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 19:05:55 +0000 (UTC) Mark, and Per, Yes, Program Changes for EDP preset changes are the basis for the = controller setup. But I find there are too many permutations of possible = presets for that to be the complete solution. 5 or 6 basic workflows, = then each wants some quant or 8ths or swichQuant or Insert variation, = too much hunting and pecking. So, two more levels I have added to my 5 or 6 basic preset workflows: 1) Virtual Parameter button: each patch on my FC 300 includes not only = preset program changes, but a parameter button, so that worst case I can = do with my feet what I used to do with my hands :) 2) Control Switches: Depending upon the workflow (glitching, = quantSubstitute, unrounded mult, stutter, etc), there are usually a = couple of salient needs that are related to the context. For instance, = quantSubstitute may want the ability to quickly move between 8th = settings. So I make those available on Control Switches for that = patch... and in that example, the SysEx string is what i needed to get = that, as there is no directMIDI for the 8th values. I have 4 control = switches available currently: I use two for global needs common to = every patch (for me) : Set Start Point and QuantMIDIStartSong, then the = other two are set up on a per-patch basis as described. This setup scheme seems to get me to where I want to be with a minimal = amount of tap dancing 90% percent of the time. Hooray ! Phil :) On Jul 13, 2011, at 3:54:54 AM, Mark Francombe wrote: > I Think the way these function are supposed to be controlled using the = EDP methodology > is to save them as presets.... But sounds like you're well on the way = to developing an > awesome set up. I would love to swap one of my edps for a LP1... And = go for a system like you!!! On Jul 13, 2011, at 4:24 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:00 AM, Phil Clevenger wrote: >>=20 >> I am discovering that LoopIV in the EDP does not seem to have a way = to >> directly control 8ths/Cycle, Quantize, or SwitchQuant. >> How are you folks controlling these params with your MIDI = controllers? >=20 >=20 > BAck when I was using an EDP I mocked up a bunch of presets with > different useful combinations of those settings and then I simply sent > external MIDI Program Change from my pedalboard to call up the preset > needed at any moment. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 13 19:24:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A7A1183473; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 19:24:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uBakkM1zoY2JkWV5eEXaZVOCvYZyibx57ohTJVW+Cmw=; b=PrgGoGH7b+5L31abomTCG44uI3FFHhHJxDUhTsa207axQKfwocDUfJspTnWDo4tgHT i8TVtNrCLeXZ4HpmE5wJqSDOZ2Oz4xcxUaGIxWnPFhZHauVsCnQYGReWR14/GXwIiWEl 0O1gvRNlXtC1Ky6LzlYTjs60eezz2SeRJ9qfU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7D6B0D6D-1061-413D-BBB0-F4DF39D7DA39@gmail.com> <1828648096741992410@unknownmsgid> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:24:30 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EDP, DirectMIDI, quant, 8ths From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110925 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 19:24:31 +0000 (UTC) Cool, Phil! I've seen German singer Michael Shiefer sending SySex into two EDPs with no glitches. http://youtu.be/zzdFnZIpYCA. Nice to hear you got it working now. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Phil Clevenger wrote: > Mark, and Per, > > Yes, Program Changes for EDP preset changes are the basis for the control= ler setup. But I find there are too many permutations of possible presets f= or that to be the complete solution. 5 or 6 basic workflows, then each want= s some quant or 8ths or swichQuant or Insert variation, too =C2=A0much hunt= ing and pecking. > > So, two more levels I have added to my 5 or 6 basic preset workflows: > > 1) Virtual Parameter button: each patch on my FC 300 includes not only pr= eset program changes, but a parameter button, so that worst case I can do w= ith my feet what I used to do with my hands :) > > 2) Control Switches: Depending upon the workflow (glitching, quantSubstit= ute, unrounded mult, stutter, etc), there are usually a couple of salient n= eeds that are related to the context. For instance, quantSubstitute may wan= t the ability to quickly move between 8th settings. So I make those availab= le on Control Switches for that patch... and in that example, the SysEx str= ing is what i needed to get that, as there is no directMIDI for the 8th val= ues. I have 4 control switches available currently: I =C2=A0use two for glo= bal needs common to every patch (for me) : Set Start Point and QuantMIDISta= rtSong, then the other two are set up on a per-patch basis as described. > > This setup scheme seems to get me to where I want to be with a minimal am= ount of tap dancing 90% percent of the time. Hooray ! > > Phil :) > > > > > On Jul 13, 2011, at 3:54:54 AM, Mark Francombe wrote: > >> I Think the way these function are supposed to be controlled using the E= DP methodology >> is to save them as presets.... But sounds like you're well on the way to= developing an >> awesome set up. I would love to swap one of my edps for a LP1... And go = for a system like you!!! > > On Jul 13, 2011, at 4:24 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > >>> On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:00 AM, Phil Clevenger wrote: >>> >>> I am discovering that LoopIV in the EDP does not seem to have a way to >>> directly =C2=A0control 8ths/Cycle, Quantize, or SwitchQuant. >>> How are you folks controlling these params with your MIDI controllers? >> >> >> BAck when I was using an EDP I mocked up a bunch of presets with >> different useful combinations of those settings and then I simply sent >> external MIDI Program Change from my pedalboard to call up the preset >> needed at any moment. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> www.looproom.com internet music hub >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 13 20:12:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 351F3183478; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 20:12:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: john floridis Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Where to buy Boomerang? Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:12:33 -0600 Message-Id: To: Delight Loopers Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <7y8iPD.A.97C.ywfHOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110926 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 20:12:35 +0000 (UTC) What is the word out there on the Looper's "street" regarding the best = place to buy a Boomerang? John= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 13 21:27:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 13E90183477; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:27:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1242 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:27:40 UTC Message-ID: <20110713170651.10923402xcrj90cg@www.wightman.ca> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 17:06:51 -0400 From: phaslem@wightman.ca To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Where to buy Boomerang? References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3) X-Originating-IP: 216.16.232.115 X-Remote-Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; GTB7.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET4.0C) Resent-Message-ID: <5TwUXC.A.u_D.M3gHOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110927 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:27:40 +0000 (UTC) I ordered mine direct from the website Paul Haslem www.dulcify.ca Ontario, Canada Quoting john floridis : > What is the word out there on the Looper's "street" regarding the > best place to buy a Boomerang? > > John > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 13 22:14:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D75A7183461; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 22:14:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cUmwxpx2G9d+Hir5LBeSor0uDLDJidpk4QXcNH9YpE0=; b=ahe4hZvtS+6ag1JqCnMDFCO+J2tUL6gaKhjH14djfAF08Ldn8HkTKRxtHstAMyPcNG q50ZZiieRG4qW9EadgspzsnvSOv/48AkrBPKEQPob8RWQZ/Ol6n+tNrYhRPiH1Am0X50 I2Guib7GjwfD00qwfw5tkEwj8I9NNIiJl9b+0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:14:39 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Audio Breakout Kits available for RMC, Graphtech, & Roland GK pick-ups From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110928 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 22:14:40 +0000 (UTC) Hi Folks, First phase of beta testing is done. Audio break out kits are available for users with Graphtech Ghost Modular, RMC, and Roland GK-3 pick-ups at a reduced price of =A340 | $65 | =8045 (including postage). The kits are availble on a first come, first serve, basis. Please drop a mail to info at rickygraham dot net, if you're interested. Further discussion on beta testing: http://rickygraham.com/septar-board-beta-kits-june-2011 (Andy Butler) http://rickygraham.com/septar-board-roland-gk-3-rmc-beta-test-enda-b (Enda Bates) http://rickygraham.com/septar-board-roland-gk-3a-beta-test (Roland GK-3 + Travel Guitar) Ricky From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 14 04:49:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D5AF183463; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 04:49:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <6327A64B-B0F3-4C70-9105-0B014E510963@sea.plala.or.jp> From: Ed Durbrow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <1310518740.24198.YahooMailClassic@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--548220627 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: signal to noise magazine - interview Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:49:04 +0900 References: <1310518740.24198.YahooMailClassic@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-VirusScan: Outbound; msa02b; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:49:04 +0900 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110929 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 04:49:11 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4--548220627 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How come I can't find the interview? Clicking anywhere on the Current =20= issue page brings up nothing and choosing Free issues as PDFs brings =20 me to a page with nothing on it except THE JOURNAL OF IMPROVISED & EXPERIMENTAL MUSIC Website powered by Network Solutions=AE Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ --Apple-Mail-4--548220627 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

How come I can't = find the interview? Clicking anywhere on the Current issue page brings = up nothing and choosing Free issues as PDFs brings me to a page with = nothing on it except 

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= --Apple-Mail-4--548220627-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 14 13:39:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF3AE183465; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:39:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 487 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:39:47 UTC Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:31:39 +0000 (UTC) From: eddrake1@comcast.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <1210129526.643008.1310650299498.JavaMail.root@sz0056a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <731199276.642080.1310649265609.JavaMail.root@sz0056a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Subject: FS Electrix Repeater MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_643007_666792396.1310650299497" X-Originating-IP: [68.57.82.124] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.10_GA_2704 (ZimbraWebClient - SAF3 (Mac)/6.0.10_GA_2697) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110930 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:39:47 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_643007_666792396.1310650299497 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Since I haven't been using my Electrix Repeater much for a while I have decided to put it up for sale it and I'm offering it here first before it goes to Ebay. I'm the original owner and I bought it when they first came out. This is a fully functioning unit and has the original power supply and has not been modded. Other than taking it out to a few gigs in a rack case when I first got it, it's been in my smoke free music room in a rack ever since. I have the box and all manuals and I have ALL versions of the operating system on Flash cards. I have several Flash cards for sale that have the Hitachi controller which are FULLY COMPATIBLE with all recording functions on the Repeater Original 16 MB CFC with Electrix logo 128 MB Simpletech CFC 256 MB Simpletech CFC 512 MB Pretec CFC Also one 32MB SanDisk CFC that the very last operating system came loaded on (I never used this for recording but I suspect it doesn't have the Hitachi controller or allow ALL functions in real time) I would like to sell all of this as a package deal. I know compatible CF cards are very hard to find but I don't want to get into selling the CF cards separately so please don't ask. I'd like to get $800 for everything with the buyer paying shipping. I'll take Paypal so email me and we can talk and spare us both the Ebay nonsense. Thanks for looking!! Ed Drake ------=_Part_643007_666792396.1310650299497 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>Since I h= aven't been using my Electrix Repeater much for a while I have decided to p= ut it up for sale it and I'm offering it here first before it goes to Ebay.=

I'm the original owner and I bought it when they first = came out. This is a fully functioning unit and has the original power suppl= y and has not been modded. Other than taking it out to a few gigs in a rack= case when I first got it, it's been in my smoke free music room in a rack = ever since.
I have the box and all manuals and I have ALL version= s of the operating system on Flash cards.

I have s= everal Flash cards for sale that have the Hitachi controller which are FULL= Y COMPATIBLE with all recording functions on the Repeater 
<= br>
Original 16 MB CFC with Electrix logo
128 MB Simple= tech CFC 
256 MB Simpletech CFC
512 MB Pretec CFC<= /div>

Also one 32MB SanDisk CFC that the very last opera= ting system came loaded on (I never used this for recording but I suspect i= t doesn't have the Hitachi controller or allow ALL functions in real time)<= /div>

I would like to sell all of this as a package deal= . I know compatible CF cards are very hard to find but I don't want to get = into selling the CF cards separately so please don't ask.

I'd like to get $800 for everything with the buyer paying shipping.= I'll take Paypal so email me and we can talk and spare us both the Ebay no= nsense.

Thanks for looking!!

<= div>Ed Drake
------=_Part_643007_666792396.1310650299497-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 14 19:07:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E6F4183465; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:07:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=6Ag6MLGDaJlCiGnVmKFGk5VCT9NhYVuv0G1Vfi8i/ek=; b=TNLtVRBc+ej2lu8kLVCeUImXVrhUFg0HVu5e/JldcbD4cbp2fBuSCTCgwDubg8RBhu d7iZYhbRsWvL+cWaM1iMkI0nZ68QPjvvPBbazW6qw3gP4xVAZNGqWAaBLcBeyco9J0F7 NeC55wl2xIqt1+PKJR6oPD0vzYIpq+tOicxtc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6327A64B-B0F3-4C70-9105-0B014E510963@sea.plala.or.jp> References: <1310518740.24198.YahooMailClassic@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6327A64B-B0F3-4C70-9105-0B014E510963@sea.plala.or.jp> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 15:07:36 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: signal to noise magazine - interview From: Jeffrey Collins To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636416d7301ee8304a80c3f62 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110931 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:07:39 +0000 (UTC) --001636416d7301ee8304a80c3f62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Same with us. On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 12:49 AM, Ed Durbrow wrot= e: > > How come I can't find the interview? Clicking anywhere on the Current iss= ue > page brings up nothing and choosing Free issues as PDFs brings me to a pa= ge > with nothing on it except THE JOURNAL OF IMPROVISED & EXPERIMENTAL MUSIC > > > Website powered > by Network Solutions=AE > > > > > > Ed Durbrow > Saitama, Japan > http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ > http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ > > > > --001636416d7301ee8304a80c3f62 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Same with us.

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 12:= 49 AM, Ed Durbrow <edurbrow@sea.plala.or.jp> wrote:

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Ed Durbrow
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--001636416d7301ee8304a80c3f62-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 14 19:17:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C9D0183464; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:17:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: References: <1310518740.24198.YahooMailClassic@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com><6327A64B-B0F3-4C70-9105-0B014E510963@sea.plala.or.jp> Subject: Re: signal to noise magazine - interview Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 22:16:31 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01CC4273.AF069C20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: <3fj_YC.A.ClB.vC0HOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110932 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:17:03 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CC4273.AF069C20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable you need to buy the hardcopy....they only put the pdf copies of previous = issues as far as i know... sorry about that. best. www.erdemhelvacioglu.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jeffrey Collins=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 10:07 PM Subject: Re: signal to noise magazine - interview Same with us. On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 12:49 AM, Ed Durbrow = wrote: How come I can't find the interview? Clicking anywhere on the = Current issue page brings up nothing and choosing Free issues as PDFs = brings me to a page with nothing on it except THE JOURNAL OF IMPROVISED = & EXPERIMENTAL MUSIC =20 =20 Website powered by Network Solutions=AE =20 =20 Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ = = ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CC4273.AF069C20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
you need to buy the hardcopy....they = only put the=20 pdf copies of previous issues as far as i know... sorry about = that.
 
best.
 
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jeffrey Collins =
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 = 10:07=20 PM
Subject: Re: signal to noise = magazine -=20 interview

Same with us.

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 12:49 AM, Ed Durbrow = <edurbrow@sea.plala.or.jp>= =20 wrote:

How come I can't find the interview? Clicking = anywhere on the=20 Current issue page brings up nothing and choosing Free issues as = PDFs brings=20 me to a page with nothing on it except  THE=20 JOURNAL OF IMPROVISED & EXPERIMENTAL MUSIC
 




Ed = Durbrow
Saitama, Japan
http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/
http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/
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= = ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CC4273.AF069C20-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 14 23:59:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A8974183464; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 23:59:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E1F82ED.1040409@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:59:41 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <8B3EKB.A.lxE.5L4HOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110933 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 23:59:53 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on Jürgen Haible. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Dark November." Details are at the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#jul On tonight's show, I will play music by Mark Jenkins who will be performing at the Soundscapes Concert Series on Sunday, July 24, 8 pm at the Nazareth Center for the Arts. http://soundscapes.us Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org/listen on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 15 08:31:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE760183464; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 08:31:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5X/kdZOzHcQx0v3X1hoeLiyS1aHVFXWkw1LL6ObW0yw=; b=YQjzs8DR4psW9LoTcIceyITLJZbfeslZPs6ZDosUONZ7EpYR0sAW9JL5q7CM1cJIkq eWfpGDXMgtY8Nd312X+AOjPcIFx5aqVz/oAKgLTQK+YAt5oQlNgc2utUgArLd9dyLutH 5fAPd2BurppdbhzjU8HX6WBVCBIiP709GJaDs= Message-ID: <4E1FFADA.6030809@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:31:22 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Looper's Delight Mailing List Subject: off to Firenze Live Looping Festival this weekend Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110934 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 08:31:33 +0000 (UTC) As a quick reminder: This weekend sees Firenze/Italia's Live Looping Festival managed by Massimo Liverani, a festival that is part of the International Live Looping Festival thingie curated by Rick Walker. There's a plethora of great artists performing: http://www.livelooping.it/home.html Me, I'm off to drive there - see you there! Rainer ps: obviously, there will be no MoinSound Studio Session tomorrow... -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 15 12:53:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D75C183463; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:53:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E20382C.5080005@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 08:53:00 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #745 for July 14, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <_lyf5B.A.SyD.0gDIOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110935 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:53:08 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/110714.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #745 July 14, 2011. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Jürgen Haible. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Dark November" which is a self-released title. Jürgen Haible: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#jul On this show, I played music by Mark Jenkins who will appear at the Soundscapes Concert Series. Visit the events page for details. Events: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/events.html PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Mark Jenkins Starless and Bible Supernova (AMP) Black signalsundertests #000000 mecca (none) M. Peck A Lost Mantra Beneath Forever (Earth Mantra) Steve Rose Somehow Different The Diminishingg Day (none) (Part 1) Steve Roach and Travel By Moonlight The Road Eternal (Projekt) Eric Wøllo Ray Carl Daye A Fragile Shift * Echoes from the Aether (none) Jürgen Haible Dark November Holiday In Purgatory (none) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Jürgen Haible In the Snow, Fever Holiday In Purgatory (none) Jürgen Haible A Ceremony of Gold Holiday In Purgatory (none) Jürgen Haible Roaming the Holiday In Purgatory (none) Centuries Jürgen Haible Beryll on Copper Holiday In Purgatory (none) Jürgen Haible Second Loop Holiday In Purgatory (none) Jürgen Haible Hibernation Holiday In Purgatory (none) Jürgen Haible Kunohara's Bug Holiday In Purgatory (none) World Jürgen Haible Oranges and Other Holiday In Purgatory (none) Fruits 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Jürgen Haible. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Holiday In Purgatory" which is a self-released title. Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 15 15:07:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21261183463; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:07:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=8IzjE2fsuG/Uv4LIINAq/jCmElDB3lVlqYQDO6bhmFg=; b=qSt0l85lm6z/WpJGwlaZBHaY+crxvVuOBL7Onc4BpVuWf9xz2vPcEApg6MkhBtKDhl 6E8G2P5iYgGj7YbeYxTmJzNvNYHVwIaP8q/2xKk13u3AYiqHToM5HxSFPzaJ8f8M37q3 UJq2Z4Ivjt1tMjHNt6yAJR/cWfEfMl26F5gA8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E1FFADA.6030809@googlemail.com> References: <4E1FFADA.6030809@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:07:30 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: off to Firenze Live Looping Festival this weekend From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307cfece25291c04a81d02a8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110936 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:07:30 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307cfece25291c04a81d02a8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rainer have a great time and great set. Safe travels on the road. Excitin= g that this international collaboration is taking shape. Jim On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 4:31 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > As a quick reminder: > > This weekend sees Firenze/Italia's Live Looping Festival managed by Massi= mo > Liverani, a festival that is part of the International Live Looping Festi= val > thingie curated by Rick Walker. > > There's a plethora of great artists performing: > http://www.livelooping.it/**home.html > > Me, I'm off to drive there - see you there! > > Rainer > > ps: obviously, there will be no MoinSound Studio Session tomorrow... > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf307cfece25291c04a81d02a8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rainer have a great time and great set.=A0 Safe travels on the road.= =A0 Exciting that this international collaboration is taking shape.
=A0
Jim

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 4:31 AM, Rainer Straschi= ll <moinso= und@googlemail.com> wrote:
As a quick reminder:

This= weekend sees Firenze/Italia's Live Looping Festival managed by Massimo= Liverani, a festival that is part of the International Live Looping Festiv= al thingie curated by Rick Walker.

There's a plethora of great artists performing:
http://www.livelooping.it= /home.html

Me, I'm off to drive there - see you there= !

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Rainer

ps: obviously, there will be no Mo= inSound Studio Session tomorrow...

--
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F= ollow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs




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From Broo= klyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & P= eter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF Int= ernational.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

wo= odandwiremusic.wordpress.com
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Petri Lahtinen

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--0015176f0b38f1c45504a8217810-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 16 00:34:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 164DE183475; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 00:34:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <522bb8cc82b08860a260bd13f4f3eaf6.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:34:31 -0400 Subject: OT: Thinking outside the box From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Andr=E9_Donawa=22?= To: "Loopers-Delight Loopers-Delight" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110938 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 00:34:28 +0000 (UTC) A fascinating clip on Melodyne inventor Peter Neubäcker. http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=interview_peter&L=0 http://islandfunk.com http://www.andredonawa.com http://www.youtube.com/user/AndreDonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 16 12:36:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20525183462; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 12:36:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=DjF5FhDZbo6ctqoDPSeeHXgkrKAswrMNnz7KcQEnd28=; b=c2ni+99dzRcLSQ6/Ii1sQ7zEcYePQKInffK2HbKZI2t4NiTKPKMESM9iHg/JBvSQoq V4xlo2L8tkPiRG/2linBQTMyv5uAd8OOQWZFj7AYQCakT7H50Iqb78FeFfFFuSqdvRcl XoEzrEdC8lm2P5wioJIgTbRyRZCsAqIZ+P3QI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <522bb8cc82b08860a260bd13f4f3eaf6.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> References: <522bb8cc82b08860a260bd13f4f3eaf6.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 15:36:02 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Thinking outside the box From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517740b0a55cc0c04a82f020e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110939 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 12:36:03 +0000 (UTC) --001517740b0a55cc0c04a82f020e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you Andr=E9! 2011/7/16 "Andr=E9 Donawa" > A fascinating clip on Melodyne inventor Peter Neub=E4cker. > > http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=3Dinterview_peter&L=3D0 > > > http://islandfunk.com > http://www.andredonawa.com > http://www.youtube.com/user/AndreDonawa > > --=20 Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com --001517740b0a55cc0c04a82f020e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you Andr=E9!

2011/7/16 "Andr= =E9 Donawa" <andre@andredonawa.com>
A fascinating clip on Melodyne inventor Peter Neub=E4cker.

http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=3Dintervie= w_peter&L=3D0


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--001517740b0a55cc0c04a82f020e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 16 17:10:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5206D183464; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 17:10:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 644095527/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.187.213/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.187.213 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Al0CAFDFIU5V0rvV/2dsb2JhbAAMRph12SCGPASXWYtj X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.67,214,1309734000"; d="scan'208";a="644095527" Message-ID: <4E21C629.4030905@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 18:11:05 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP, DirectMIDI, quant, 8ths References: <7D6B0D6D-1061-413D-BBB0-F4DF39D7DA39@gmail.com> <1828648096741992410@unknownmsgid> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110940 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 17:10:33 +0000 (UTC) hi Phil, glad you got the sysex working. A couple of hints 1) while processing a sysex command the edp doesn't have the processing power to do anything else. That includes checking for midi input. If you need to change more than one param with a sysex command you'll have to use a midi controller that puts a delay between them. The audio from the edp will drop out briefly while processing sysex. 2) Changes to 8th/Cycle aren't effective till the end of the cycle (or is it end of the loop?) andy butler (back from holiday) Phil Clevenger wrote: > Mark, and Per, > > Yes, Program Changes for EDP preset changes are the basis for the controller setup. But I find there are too many permutations From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 16 20:38:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3415183462; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 20:38:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=L0Yzx0agZDwEiIZkleTXl5yq/tpObtYBjtD5q7xH5DE=; b=MoV/vlhems3bWuJG/ZH7Fha3Y84S43yJxjh8xnkYgq9E3Fr0Wj9ywX/ws4luWfi9Fg jRlM/MY7TixJ+SoGE+uLilZ6GznSxHrUuf5ELWD97H0IH+wLCGQ8+VwP+pym7XBJ+hqj eKdfCClMnbq/qoMm52+BTr7jwDMq+OHN+Zoo0= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: EDP, DirectMIDI, quant, 8ths From: Phil Clevenger In-Reply-To: <4E21C629.4030905@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 13:38:54 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <999BC928-19D7-41DD-943F-811BC6B0C448@gmail.com> References: <7D6B0D6D-1061-413D-BBB0-F4DF39D7DA39@gmail.com> <1828648096741992410@unknownmsgid> <4E21C629.4030905@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110941 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 20:38:59 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Andy ! Yep I noticed an audio drop when making these changes, but it's the = audio from my guitar that drops, while the ongoing loop remains = uninterrupted. So I just avoid playing notes while executing Sysex = commands. Easier to hit the pedals that way anyway ;) Good tip about the multiple command delay... so far I've been sending = SysEx only one at a time. WIll be on the lookout as things evolve :) Best, Phil :) On Jul 16, 2011, at 10:11 AM, andy butler wrote: > hi Phil, > glad you got the sysex working. >=20 > A couple of hints >=20 > 1) while processing a sysex command the edp doesn't have the = processing power > to do anything else. That includes checking for midi input. > If you need to change more than one param with a sysex command > you'll have to use a midi controller that puts a delay between them. > The audio from the edp will drop out briefly while processing sysex. >=20 > 2) Changes to 8th/Cycle aren't effective till the end of the cycle > (or is it end of the loop?)=20 > andy butler > (back from holiday) >=20 >=20 > Phil Clevenger wrote: >> Mark, and Per, >> Yes, Program Changes for EDP preset changes are the basis for the = controller setup. But I find there are too many permutations=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 16 22:55:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30595183465; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 22:55:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=tUb3D7ZA1pQ6+cBBeZxAe5oCF9JGcO9k+JBAvwfQEbk=; b=Ls9x/HGu/2JbyNIqubNcM8IQFNYLy2UKc+KaIXujohnq9mU2tmQQJn3MRiursUhfMr kwvmLr5iEST8OExeGd6eTgjbcNrF/8BTptcMtu0NwGWGCD4zUO7ZtfPxl9aYSj+s9vmj cBhkxiGy0aKRcO5XFYPUuTbXuOTHx7KWBpKns= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: tom.ritchford@gmail.com From: Tom Swirly Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 18:55:17 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: cxNPGpEm5mvHlhRtMExWNzMy8KY Message-ID: Subject: NYC loopers, I'm having a party this Sunday afternoon To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec5014df716138c04a837aa07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110942 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 22:55:38 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec5014df716138c04a837aa07 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On a whim, I thought I'd extend an invitation! My theory is that there aren't so many New York City loopers that my apartment will be crammed. 3PM tomorrow, Williamsburg, Brooklyn, reply off-list for address and phone # pls.... -- /t http://radio.swirly.com - art music radio 24/7 366/1000 --bcaec5014df716138c04a837aa07 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On a whim, I thought I'd extend an invitation!

My theory is that there aren't so many New York City loopers that my a= partment will be crammed.

3PM tomorrow, Williamsburg, Br= ooklyn, reply off-list for address and phone # pls....

--
=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 /t

http://radio.swirly.com - art music radio 24/7 366/1000
--bcaec5014df716138c04a837aa07-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 16 23:25:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6A38183462; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 23:25:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20cf303bfb10ced96b04a83813a6@google.com> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 23:25:10 +0000 Subject: Re: NYC loopers, I'm having a party this Sunday afternoon From: jeffreycollins1975@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf303bfb10ced94e04a83813a3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110943 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 23:25:11 +0000 (UTC) --20cf303bfb10ced94e04a83813a3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Thankfully when I finally move to NYC, I'll know about fellow loopers and musicians that make beautiful music. Right on. I hope the event goes very well. Jeffrey On , Tom Swirly wrote: > On a whim, I thought I'd extend an invitation! > My theory is that there aren't so many New York City loopers that my > apartment will be crammed. > 3PM tomorrow, Williamsburg, Brooklyn, reply off-list for address and > phone # pls.... > -- > /t > http://radio.swirly.com - art music radio 24/7 366/1000 --20cf303bfb10ced94e04a83813a3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thankfully when I finally move to NYC, I'll know about fellow loopers a= nd musicians that make beautiful music.

Right on. I hope the eve= nt goes very well.

Jeffrey

On , Tom Swirly <tom@sw= irly.com> wrote:
> On a whim, I thought I'd extend an invita= tion!
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> > 3PM tomorrow, Williamsburg, Brooklyn, reply off-list for address a= nd phone # pls....
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> =A0 =A0=A0= /t
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> http://radio.swirly.com - art music radio 24/7 366= /1000
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> --20cf303bfb10ced94e04a83813a3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 16 23:59:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCE2A183473; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 23:59:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=KJePoLj5E507Fx20gUV3RhJrZ2/KP+4L48vGaQPtTnGGxojNQy3YB/+oDoxrCAzl; h=Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 8J2) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--306373304 Message-Id: <7619D3A0-0652-4B10-A06E-6F0878715923@earthlink.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Loopers-Delight X-Mailer: iPod Mail (8J2) From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: NYC loopers, I'm having a party this Sunday afternoon Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 19:59:50 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec7934426e75ad680d636fa89eed14e7cdec350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 64.131.171.184 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110944 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 23:59:17 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--306373304 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sounds like fun! E- mail me the details.=20 Chuck Sent from my iPad Nano On Jul 16, 2011, at 6:55 PM, Tom Swirly wrote: > On a whim, I thought I'd extend an invitation! >=20 > My theory is that there aren't so many New York City loopers that my apart= ment will be crammed. >=20 > 3PM tomorrow, Williamsburg, Brooklyn, reply off-list for address and phone= # pls.... >=20 > --=20 > /t >=20 > http://radio.swirly.com - art music radio 24/7 366/1000 --Apple-Mail-3--306373304 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Sounds like fun! E- mail me the details. 

Chuck

Sent from my iPad Nano

On Jul 16, 2011, at 6:55 PM, Tom Swirly <tom@swirly.com> wrote:

On a whim, I thought I'd extend an invitation!

My theory is that there aren't so many New York City loopers that my apartment will be crammed.

3PM tomorrow, Williamsburg, Brooklyn, reply off-list for address and phone # pls....

--
     /t

http://radio.swirly.com - art music radio 24/7 366/1000
--Apple-Mail-3--306373304-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 17 00:06:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 690E9183465; Sun, 17 Jul 2011 00:06:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqUGAFsnIk4yaEvb/2dsb2JhbABSmHaPAIltoh2eQYVdXwSHVJATi3I X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.67,215,1309737600"; d="scan'208";a="139682070" X-Previous-IP: 50.104.75.219 Message-Id: From: Jeff Shirkey To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: FS: Eventide Eclipse Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 19:11:11 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110945 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 00:06:34 +0000 (UTC) Eventide Eclipse (v. 4 software) in excellent condition for sale. Asking $1250 shipped in CONUS. Thanks, Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 17 02:00:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 49A77183462; Sun, 17 Jul 2011 02:00:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WvKQeMf1gnGw5uiwygzV9zqsP4wpWFMfKPPd5BRe/Z8=; b=AYXymuDuvpzTogqpk3GI4uuUyRpxAgQlbYeV0UonFI7rfM9fMmNtq4mYtU8bmJXU3J TirYgCKkbZwZ+WTqFb+bTCAX7PLtTTrrXlfj7ci1l45hfwcnzuYOLJeDkWyH67paQ7G6 y6Py28ggHN4kfYGIVdhl9AP9yM74Fj+cGiR1A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 22:00:11 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Mobius Track Selection and Launchpad From: John Singletary To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110946 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 02:00:12 +0000 (UTC) Hey Everyone, I am a newbie learning Mobius and have been hosting it was a vst in Audiomulch with a Motu Unltralite intrface (8 ins and 8 outs) and have it set up so each input goes to an isolated output such i.e.(in 1 to out 1) etc. and it seemed to be working smoothly until something seemed to have happened in Mobius so that it only will get signal from highlighted tracks in Mobius and they must be in the same aux out i.e. (tracks 3 and 4 or 7 and 8) if 7 is on then 4 will be silent. It was not doing this before anyone know why this might have started happening? Also, I heard that Novation or Circular labs was working on a script so that the Novation Launchpad works in Mobius like it does in Live, does anyone know anything about this? Thanks so much guys, Best Regards, John From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 17 02:20:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 08371183460; Sun, 17 Jul 2011 02:20:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=Vps9CkUajSFrcSDgko846LntEyhyjaDzuNed5M5I5H4=; b=QFhnaW5qggpFXK5qd4UACLXsn+axldZR+mvevozfAyZtsZGcbiSnYNL6Xb2c/182Bh F9UEoqdfuA1PJ+CH6r3yq/CV6GdF+4kVjqvE1HVXgQ1l2emUwdzgoNQuycLr6MwmqUmd C0p9QEqDX8kWO1Xo8tWaGrxRntrFUVyOwgUNc= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: EDP, DirectMIDI, quant, 8ths From: Phil Clevenger In-Reply-To: <4E21C629.4030905@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 19:20:30 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <76D2746D-D2D4-44F8-A27B-2491B35B5922@gmail.com> References: <7D6B0D6D-1061-413D-BBB0-F4DF39D7DA39@gmail.com> <1828648096741992410@unknownmsgid> <4E21C629.4030905@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110947 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 02:20:36 +0000 (UTC) Well dammit Andy you are right, I just had not noticed ! The guitar sound cuts out for sure, as I described, so much that it's = impossible not to hear. But now that you put the bug in my head, I can = definitely hear not only the EDP ongoing loop sound cut out during SysEx = change, but a little low-frequency blip that could be very annoying in = the wrong situation... gah! So I guess for me these SysEx commands are a temporary solution only ;) Best, Phil :) On Jul 16, 2011, at 10:11 AM, andy butler wrote: > hi Phil, > glad you got the sysex working. >=20 > A couple of hints >=20 > 1) while processing a sysex command the edp doesn't have the = processing power > to do anything else. That includes checking for midi input. > If you need to change more than one param with a sysex command > you'll have to use a midi controller that puts a delay between them. > The audio from the edp will drop out briefly while processing sysex. >=20 > 2) Changes to 8th/Cycle aren't effective till the end of the cycle > (or is it end of the loop?)=20 > andy butler > (back from holiday) >=20 >=20 > Phil Clevenger wrote: >> Mark, and Per, >> Yes, Program Changes for EDP preset changes are the basis for the = controller setup. But I find there are too many permutations=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 17 03:35:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51418183464; Sun, 17 Jul 2011 03:35:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FU8hzdITh15HiXCAQBFaCeSFDXEJZbhHhUewKWQlgAo=; b=OtZHX3sf58IKn22WrXd4Hz7/NOFlxzTRA8VBoUVbVp5siBT/R5LnV8nYDPuBfESl4G 6Fy2hvN/LlMpRHtzF93UMrGj1IFTJbkceP01GeuGRU/ArEcOpqHe1o9GQmRIDmFXLSTT wCU8Sdet1rF4vPW/o2pD+symZv+Jd0T2MVWPs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 23:35:55 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Any leads on finding a Yamaha bc1 or bc3 or bc3a breath controller? From: Steve Sandberg To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=002354530ec489188104a83b94ca Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110948 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 03:35:56 +0000 (UTC) --002354530ec489188104a83b94ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Went online today to buy a replacement breath controller (i'm a vl70 freak) and was shocked and dismayed to find out that yamaha has not only discontinued the vl70, but the breath controllers for it - anyone have any of the above-mentioned items they want to sell, or any leads on how to find used ones? much appreciated - --002354530ec489188104a83b94ca Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Went online today to buy a replacement breath controller (i'm a vl70 fr= eak) and was shocked and dismayed to find out that yamaha has not only disc= ontinued the vl70, but the breath controllers for it -
anyone have any = of the above-mentioned items they want to sell, or any leads on how to find= used ones?
much appreciated -
--002354530ec489188104a83b94ca-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 17 06:46:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C1C018345D; Sun, 17 Jul 2011 06:46:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=d+yl1Dtmdi9qZzz5USTUASHBCaR/osGGWT+eJEeoWlI=; b=s2RFK2dGDdOQnytTjoN+MyVp9d+nlIUzhULxtwi3sVAmzf2BPXzZ0ZYENPUo5egGvd /wMpHOWD/54JkoCyKflWHU1TMrdaBOpp7GIKraaeW8kW/VbZJt0dRDojQEqY5lutu/eh 5lo146DF9l6Z5PYXT8MZfmowZhbe8c0ubXcJM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 02:46:48 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Composing/Planning the Looping Fun From: Steve Crumpler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364efa6236af4004a83e3f0d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110949 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 06:46:50 +0000 (UTC) --0016364efa6236af4004a83e3f0d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 So as this is my first post, I'll offer a quick introduction. For the past year-and-a-half has been learning how to play the violin (electric). Originally my goal was just to learn how to play the violin, but with success I quickly expanded on that. I decided to plan out how to create a solo electric violin looping performance. That's what I've been focusing on (as much as I can with a full-time job) for the past few months. Also, I'm a software engineer. One thing to know about software engineers is that we spend months planning software in detail before we get to the part where we implement it. A lot of creative thought goes into planning out elegantly-written software. I believe it is similar to planning out an elegant looping structure/song. So, hopefully my background will help explain the seeming oddness of my question ... How do you guys compose/plan your songs? For the instrument-based loopers out there, do you write sheet music for the loop and free-play sections and have some scheme for organizing it or do you simply play and improvise till you have something that works? My problem would be remembering exactly what I played from one day to the next. Maybe it's because I'm so new to playing, though, that I don't quite have the ability to keep it all in my head the same way every time. Hopefully you guys have already solved my problem and can fill me in, but if not here's what I've been thinking ... First I play around with some rhythms and melodies on the piano (USB keyboard attached to PC so I can play and take notes). Once I have some sections that I like I write the loop sections to sheet music using LilyPond . However, that only gives the the independent section, not the whole song or when to press the pedals to start/stop/overdub a loop. That is where I've been putting a lot of thought lately. So with that problem in mind I had some inspiration from my CS education. I can think of a loop-based song like a finite state machine (FSM), which is simply a way to describe the states a machine (in this case a loop-based song) can be in and how it transitions between the states. The only way to change which loops are playing (0 to *) is to press a foot pedal, similar to how the only way to change a FSM state is with a transition. With that I can diagram out my loop-based song, with each loop start/end/overdub, effect on/off, effect settings, etc. to the very end. I think this is flexible enough to be useful for mapping out any loop-based song. Thoughts? --0016364efa6236af4004a83e3f0d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So as this is my first post, I'll offer a quick introduction. =A0For th= e past year-and-a-half has been learning how to play the violin (electric).= =A0Originally my goal was just to learn how to play the violin, but with s= uccess I quickly expanded on that. =A0I decided to plan out how to create a= solo electric violin looping performance. =A0That's what I've been= focusing on (as much as I can with a full-time job) for the past few month= s. =A0Also,=A0I'm a software engineer. =A0One thing to know about softw= are engineers is that=A0we spend months planning software in detail before = we get to the part where we implement it. =A0A lot of creative thought goes= into planning out elegantly-written software. =A0I believe it is similar t= o planning out an elegant looping structure/song.

So, hopefully my background will help explain the seeming od= dness of my question ...=A0

How do you guys compos= e/plan your songs? =A0For the instrument-based loopers out there, do you wr= ite sheet music for the loop and free-play sections and have some scheme fo= r organizing it or do you simply play and improvise till you have something= that works? =A0My problem would be remembering exactly what I played from = one day to the next. =A0Maybe it's because I'm so new to playing, t= hough, that I don't quite have the ability to keep it all in my head th= e same way every time. =A0

Hopefully you guys have already solved my problem and c= an fill me in, but if not here's what I've been thinking ... First = I play around with some rhythms and melodies on the piano (USB keyboard att= ached to PC so I can play and take notes). =A0Once I have some sections tha= t I like I write the loop sections to sheet music using LilyPond. =A0However, that only gives the the independent = section, not the whole song or when to press the pedals to start/stop/overd= ub a loop. =A0That is where I've been putting a lot of thought lately. = =A0

So with that problem in mind I had some inspiration fro= m my CS education. =A0I can think of a loop-based song like a=A0finite state machine= =A0(FSM), which is simply a way to describe the states a machine (in this c= ase a loop-based song) can be in and how it transitions between the states.= =A0The only way to change which loops are playing (0 to *) is to press a f= oot pedal, similar to how the only way to change a FSM state is with a tran= sition. =A0With that I can diagram out my loop-based song, with each loop s= tart/end/overdub, effect on/off, effect settings, etc. to the very end. =A0= I think this is flexible enough to be useful for mapping out any loop-based= song.

Thoughts?
--0016364efa6236af4004a83e3f0d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 17 10:20:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7254B183460; Sun, 17 Jul 2011 10:20:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 644540966/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.182.211/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.182.211 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AusBADW3Ik5V0rbT/2dsb2JhbAAMRph22hWGPASXWYtj X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.67,217,1309734000"; d="scan'208";a="644540966" Message-ID: <4E22B7A4.3020605@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 11:21:24 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP, DirectMIDI, quant, 8ths References: <7D6B0D6D-1061-413D-BBB0-F4DF39D7DA39@gmail.com> <1828648096741992410@unknownmsgid> <4E21C629.4030905@tiscali.co.uk> <999BC928-19D7-41DD-943F-811BC6B0C448@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <999BC928-19D7-41DD-943F-811BC6B0C448@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110950 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 10:20:51 +0000 (UTC) Phil Clevenger wrote: > Thanks Andy ! > > Yep I noticed an audio drop when making these changes, but it's the audio from my guitar that drops, very unlikely, the dry signal follows an analog path >while the ongoing loop remains uninterrupted. possible...I certainly noticed a dropout when I changed midi channel via sysex. Another sysex quirk of the edp is that the unique device number will sometimes be 'forgot' and revert to 255. Never found out why, and it didn't happen often...but worth bearing in mind. Not a problem with one edp of course, just keep to 255. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 17 10:31:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29917183461; Sun, 17 Jul 2011 10:31:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 647960706/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.182.211/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.182.211 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoCAKaFAU5V0rbT/2dsb2JhbAAMSJg2mEC/E4YrBJY9izY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,405,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="647960706" Message-ID: <4E22BA18.107@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 11:31:52 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP, DirectMIDI, quant, 8ths References: <7D6B0D6D-1061-413D-BBB0-F4DF39D7DA39@gmail.com> <1828648096741992410@unknownmsgid> <4E21C629.4030905@tiscali.co.uk> <76D2746D-D2D4-44F8-A27B-2491B35B5922@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <76D2746D-D2D4-44F8-A27B-2491B35B5922@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110951 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 10:31:18 +0000 (UTC) Phil Clevenger wrote: > Well dammit Andy you are right, I just had not noticed ! > > The guitar sound cuts out for sure, as I described, so much that it's impossible not to hear. I hadn't noticed that one. > But now that you put the bug in my head, I can definitely hear not only the EDP ongoing loop sound > cut out during SysEx change, but a little low-frequency blip that could be very annoying in the wrong situation... gah! It might help to do the DC offset setup for the edp, that won't help the dropout, but might eliminate the blip. > > So I guess for me these SysEx commands are a temporary solution only ;) this was true for me. I don't know of anyone currently using edp sysex. It was intended to set up the edp from sequencer between "songs" rather than realtime control. I don't remember, but maybe it's possible to program the presets via sysex, so at least you could have different presets for each piece you play. regards andy > > Best, > > Phil :) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 17 11:59:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63BF3183460; Sun, 17 Jul 2011 11:59:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 647996177/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.182.211/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.182.211 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApIBAKaFAU5V0rbT/2dsb2JhbAAMSLB2vxOGKwSWPYs2 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,405,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="647996177" Message-ID: <4E22CEA8.5060309@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 12:59:36 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Composing/Planning the Looping Fun References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110952 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 11:59:03 +0000 (UTC) hi Steve, welcome Steve Crumpler wrote: > So as this is my first post, I'll offer a quick introduction. For the > past year-and-a-half has been learning how to play the violin > (electric). Originally my goal was just to learn how to play the > violin, but with success I quickly expanded on that. I decided to plan > out how to create a solo electric violin looping performance. That's > what I've been focusing on (as much as I can with a full-time job) for > the past few months. Also, I'm a software engineer. One thing to know > about software engineers is that we spend months planning software in > detail before we get to the part where we implement it. A lot of > creative thought goes into planning out elegantly-written software. I > believe it is similar to planning out an elegant looping structure/song. let's just say there's also inelegant software out there :-) The alternative approach is 1) just get it going 2) listen to user feedback 3) accommodate the wishes of users > So, hopefully my background will help explain the seeming oddness of my > question ... > > How do you guys compose/plan your songs? For the instrument-based > loopers out there, do you write sheet music for the loop and free-play > sections and have some scheme for organizing it or do you simply play > and improvise till you have something that works? If I'm working on a piece I will just run through it over and over, with occasional breaks to figure out how to get the looping hardware to do what I want, or to work on the harmony/arrangement aspects of sections. Generally I end up with a set of "moves" on the loop technology, some harmonic and rhythmic structure, and some compatible melodic material, although the amount of variation per each performance depends on the piece. > So with that problem in mind I had some inspiration from my CS > education. I can think of a loop-based song like a finite state machine > (FSM), which is > simply a way to describe the states a machine (in this case a loop-based > song) can be in and how it transitions between the states. The only way > to change which loops are playing (0 to *) is to press a foot pedal, > similar to how the only way to change a FSM state is with a transition. > With that I can diagram out my loop-based song, with each loop > start/end/overdub, effect on/off, effect settings, etc. to the very end. > I think this is flexible enough to be useful for mapping out any > loop-based song. I'd say *no*, to describe a sophisticated looping device the number of possible states becomes unwieldy. ..and some features like playback speed aren't easily described by on/off flags. > Thoughts? >From a programmer perspective, the thing about a looping device is that you're very likely to want to extend it's capabilities after finishing it. If you use a state machine as described I then you're likely to end up with inelegant software with hard to find bugs. I'd at least consider a structure whereby each loop has it's own FSM. Of course, I'm aware it's likely you know exactly what your about, and that these comments are telling you nothing new :-) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 17 12:02:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94FF6183461; Sun, 17 Jul 2011 12:02:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8KDpvfnr9FlZ0mCo8gHaiLSQPdiKOYLe0ZkP4Btdy2A=; b=huSCr8rHDv2EjEwXwsH63f3SUADegeB58epPwdG/snlo3P0HRa0SCGUo5AWel2hsyy WLQdUsyG3bTz4prYAgjZHQajq7Thqxm453R90V66a5XHXNP++GRpaKEFsuuYMajBNIEq heGXawN8A/yo9us0vzK/gXHtYB/jrp6+ir8ck= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 14:02:39 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Composing/Planning the Looping Fun From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110953 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 12:02:40 +0000 (UTC) Step 1. First advice here: Know Music! Step 2. To break this down into an action plan, here are some points: - Know what chords are usually used in a each key. - Know what makes a melody work over a certain chord change structure. - Know rhythm. Learn what it sounds like and how to play any beat over any other beat. Step 3. Analyze "breaking the rules". One early famous example is how Lennon/McCartney used to suddenly throw in a minor chord where classic music theory would predict a major chord (and this of cause implying different song harmony and melody playing at that particular part of the song). Another example might be Miles Davis well known trick to "imagine the song going in a a different key and play according to that instead of the actual key". Step 4. Solve the technical challenges of live looping; I mean things like figuring out what part to start with in order to build more parts into the same loop (or as other parallel loops?). Maybe a bass line works under two different melodies? Fine, then you may first make a loop of this bass line and then either play those two melodies after each other over the ever spinning bass line loop... or you could first copy the bass line loop into a new loop slot and overdub the two melodies one at each copy of the bass line loop. Such a decision depends on what you're going to do later in the arrangement. Step X - variation: "Unlearn" the above step-for-step approach and try using it for improvising "instant composition". Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Steve Crumpler wrote= : > So as this is my first post, I'll offer a quick introduction. =C2=A0For t= he past > year-and-a-half has been learning how to play the violin (electric). > =C2=A0Originally my goal was just to learn how to play the violin, but wi= th > success I quickly expanded on that. =C2=A0I decided to plan out how to cr= eate a > solo electric violin looping performance. =C2=A0That's what I've been foc= using on > (as much as I can with a full-time job) for the past few months. =C2=A0Al= so,=C2=A0I'm > a software engineer. =C2=A0One thing to know about software engineers is = that=C2=A0we > spend months planning software in detail before we get to the part where = we > implement it. =C2=A0A lot of creative thought goes into planning out > elegantly-written software. =C2=A0I believe it is similar to planning out= an > elegant looping structure/song. > So, hopefully my background will help explain the seeming oddness of my > question ... > How do you guys compose/plan your songs? =C2=A0For the instrument-based l= oopers > out there, do you write sheet music for the loop and free-play sections a= nd > have some scheme for organizing it or do you simply play and improvise ti= ll > you have something that works? =C2=A0My problem would be remembering exac= tly what > I played from one day to the next. =C2=A0Maybe it's because I'm so new to > playing, though, that I don't quite have the ability to keep it all in my > head the same way every time. > Hopefully you guys have already solved my problem and can fill me in, but= if > not here's what I've been thinking ... First I play around with some rhyt= hms > and melodies on the piano (USB keyboard attached to PC so I can play and > take notes). =C2=A0Once I have some sections that I like I write the loop > sections to sheet music using LilyPond. =C2=A0However, that only gives th= e the > independent section, not the whole song or when to press the pedals to > start/stop/overdub a loop. =C2=A0That is where I've been putting a lot of= thought > lately. > So with that problem in mind I had some inspiration from my CS education.= =C2=A0I > can think of a loop-based song like a=C2=A0finite state machine=C2=A0(FSM= ), which is > simply a way to describe the states a machine (in this case a loop-based > song) can be in and how it transitions between the states. =C2=A0The only= way to > change which loops are playing (0 to *) is to press a foot pedal, similar= to > how the only way to change a FSM state is with a transition. =C2=A0With t= hat I > can diagram out my loop-based song, with each loop start/end/overdub, eff= ect > on/off, effect settings, etc. to the very end. =C2=A0I think this is flex= ible > enough to be useful for mapping out any loop-based song. > Thoughts? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 17 12:17:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5F19183460; Sun, 17 Jul 2011 12:17:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=1WRrMqJLECBl0Q88TeP7RKpxYWMnIokaTnqmxpM9v9A=; b=RKz4uX3V2MQIS/MCPKVJbDn40PQynXxv1BWPt/1Rg+RVIJ+k/4pzmQG3BQaYcTgLmO 4+RRU56lXS2yaeMCIKIFGIzaomhV9+5iLn7Y9HSeVc04jsIuN75YcV6Eda+c6bHJ5y2Y 0pAB2DDzhyTcDCh96ckaB94IHO+6uZPS1Pgpo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 14:17:43 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius Track Selection and Launchpad From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <0IAqqC.A.9sC.oLtIOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110954 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 12:17:44 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 4:00 AM, John Singletary wrote: > Also, I heard that Novation or Circular labs was > working on a script so that the Novation Launchpad works in Mobius > like it does in Live, does anyone know anything about this? Check this thread at the Mobius forum: http://www.circularlabs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97&highlight=Launchpad Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 17 13:24:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE518183461; Sun, 17 Jul 2011 13:24:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E22E29B.9000404@soundscapes.us> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 09:24:43 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Composing/Planning the Looping Fun References: <19682813.13909.1310904182317.JavaMail.root@m08> In-Reply-To: <19682813.13909.1310904182317.JavaMail.root@m08> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110955 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 13:24:51 +0000 (UTC) On 7/17/11 8:02 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Step 3. Analyze "breaking the rules". > One early famous example is how Lennon/McCartney used to suddenly > throw in a minor chord where classic music theory would predict a > major chord (and this of cause implying different song harmony and > melody playing at that particular part of the song). Hi Per, Can you cite a specific example and name a song and where the minor chord is located in that song? Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 17 13:36:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C2D9718345B; Sun, 17 Jul 2011 13:36:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E22E554.90905@soundscapes.us> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 09:36:20 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Composing/Planning the Looping Fun References: <31515037.11138.1310885585781.JavaMail.root@m08> In-Reply-To: <31515037.11138.1310885585781.JavaMail.root@m08> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110956 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 13:36:29 +0000 (UTC) On 7/17/11 2:46 AM, Steve Crumpler wrote: > How do you guys compose/plan your songs? Plan? We don't need no stinkin' plan! ;-) Many people improvise a melody or a chord pattern or a rhythm and then fly from there. This tends to be more dominant in soundscapes than in pop or jazz structured pieces but not limited to that domain. In my guise as an electronic musician, nearly all of what I do is improvised. Only at Different Skies and mindSpiral have I taken part in pieces that employed any real planning/up front composing. In xeroid entity and Twyndyllyngs and at Ricochet Gatherings it is all improv. In my guise as a wannabe duo (I haven't found a partner, yet), I plan on doing cover songs which will be an entirely different mode of operation. The partner I have in mind only songs so loops will be required if I ever want to take a solo. Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 17 13:37:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FA0618345E; Sun, 17 Jul 2011 13:37:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=PpAV+gH//oxOtGSQwsXOlhy6IMFgpYYGz6tyaK3P2jk=; b=pnp4aPJqK6oelgHRXi/993mi5mB4CXl82ENPwYxfMfRASPnxdF1++UQ2/RDsrdLMSw B2BUmchkLCBuvsflFsw7lQfP1/hQGEnHUTRcH3Vc2rEXiJoyzlm8UGXVWQUFW02Q/mZw 5b6WwO/B6CsBYdn4Fr/OqK6IDyKuKqA9mGvAg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E22E29B.9000404@soundscapes.us> References: <19682813.13909.1310904182317.JavaMail.root@m08> <4E22E29B.9000404@soundscapes.us> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 15:37:56 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Composing/Planning the Looping Fun From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110957 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 13:37:57 +0000 (UTC) Sorry, not time at hand right now to listen through the old Beatles catalog. But I estimate, from memory, that you hear that thing in around every third or fourth Beatles song from the early days. Probably on the Help album I think. Sometimes I've also heard the Beatles change a typical major subdominant into a minor for a stick. That would hint at an augmented fifth from the main key's perspective and as such not as much "breaking rules" as the key change (major/minor). per On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Bill Fox wrote: > On 7/17/11 8:02 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> Step 3. Analyze "breaking the rules". >> One early famous example is how Lennon/McCartney used to suddenly >> throw in a minor chord where classic music theory would predict a >> major chord (and this of cause implying different song harmony and >> melody playing at that particular part of the song). > > Hi Per, > > Can you cite a specific example and name a song and where the minor chord is > located in that song? > > Cheers, > > Bill > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 17 13:42:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B36CC183463; Sun, 17 Jul 2011 13:42:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dDkNL2zaAPxx0In5uKoQbsjzrbVInjORsjBBnq7hbNI=; b=lW0qMwbEa9hP9r9AXUTtPASHRU1ImyGHFC8CFFIIDIa3hlqWgiZDPbGH/bgO4nkchI GDvABTG7Ytk4HTjp4wGv1ZMeJdLvEjwe2ZZDgSdTuWseXdPghHTDz5cG0H7I34HwTbq9 ar8weIB/qMM8OKWkciuGtwDDvNRfqC9LAXvPo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E22E554.90905@soundscapes.us> References: <31515037.11138.1310885585781.JavaMail.root@m08> <4E22E554.90905@soundscapes.us> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 15:42:08 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Composing/Planning the Looping Fun From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110958 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 13:42:09 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Bill Fox wrote: > On 7/17/11 2:46 AM, Steve Crumpler wrote: >> >> How do you guys compose/plan your songs? > > Plan? =C2=A0We don't need no stinkin' plan! =C2=A0;-) Well, some people have. Right off the top of my head I'm thinking about list members Zoe Keating and Fro. They both start from finished compositions and deconstruct the composition to rebuild it according to available looping options. That is planning that proceeds the performance, i.e. "a plan". Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 17 21:23:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3895183465; Sun, 17 Jul 2011 21:23:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=R2/ZxUwusj1pOeDOtKUj8h5Lu5X+LhpuHux506wdgzE=; b=E6G5xZEEnoB7PklHJCLy6MhTirzvz4fAO9OJBtdw5GdTuJ+JbtLqe64mhVqDiiXFt/ ALuEQgKVtfCrJVgvKU7hZEYSyiAgvyRFWjIl6S7XbwtoajeD9zWVQ3Lhk1eALq0rDCpv LDNDLw7TJ9e5nQyL6RSCFGR/aHD/EeK/3rKnE= Message-ID: <4E2352CA.8030905@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 23:23:22 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Looper's Delight Mailing List Subject: Back from Firenze - the tradition lives on! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110959 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 21:23:16 +0000 (UTC) Ok, I'm back from Firenze, right as the last notes of WD-41's set (Willie Oteri/David Laczko) should be sounding out. What a gas! Apart from trying out my Nerdville 2.0 setup live for the first time (and getting the audience of an ambient-loop festival to sing along!!!), it was great fun to listen to the set of this huge bandwidth of musicians (for day one, we had Giovanni Lami, Enrico Coniglio, Fabio Anile, myself and Michael Peters) - and of course to just hang out with them, Gareth (plus Emma), David/Willie, and of course being shown round Firenze by our charming host, Massimo. Thanks, Massimo. The tradition of the International Live Looping Festivals does live on, also in the old world. Rainer ps: pics, audio clips and videos about to follow. -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 17 21:26:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B7218183460; Sun, 17 Jul 2011 21:26:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=X/lgV5A3GVZhY0JlkIa4OwLGnNBnCfE9MdJk9MGBSOo=; b=UOF6eiFPtBMO1hNj84OnUiVum1ZCMXCfAfi9O32K6DOhhOuSfQ/5C8XauFM4VrELnR zXlP9q18Enxuwb1Fr+z1FCoYrctIeTZ+y7tAK8m5pyT4t6Y6aVz0ZcL06wyP9VQqXSgI 5xxW2ilI8UrertV/DXHjYcQXEim7xkrlPOIpE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E2352CA.8030905@googlemail.com> References: <4E2352CA.8030905@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 23:26:34 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Back from Firenze - the tradition lives on! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <2v22PD.A.RPB.LO1IOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110960 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 21:26:35 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > ps: pics, audio clips and videos about to follow. Looking forward to that, Rainer! :-) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 18 00:44:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB1C0183453; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 00:44:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1fOZH0zTbvIClXPQ8T6Nd3Jle2kaFsAWa4fJVo3Iq7s=; b=pjU/bC8umyPL1Evfl1CBGCWc0meBnI3MaJ82eg3UDWgZkI82YRal/SSpRubJjpWpGQ NmkBA2EzmKkJBI8bbsu9ikkh74NPjGaXzVTCIToDQEqz2s6j/K1ajPQLNG/bL72lGAVm 2Fvkhd7T+EQRtlu3igzk0CqaxEbbq+Zwk066s= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4E2352CA.8030905@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 20:44:46 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Back from Firenze - the tradition lives on! From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110961 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 00:44:47 +0000 (UTC) Rainer excellent report on Y2K Italy. So cool you got to be there and be part of. I look fwd to seeing the imagery soon. Jim On 7/17/11, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Rainer Straschill > wrote: >> ps: pics, audio clips and videos about to follow. > > Looking forward to that, Rainer! :-) > > Per > > --=20 Sent from my mobile device *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 18 16:35:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C79C518345B; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:35:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/MvVE4it/LUBRin9Ct1RZzDVJSVhLyo3t7LPP/IJbD8=; b=ZxkH0fqcAgD+5v81GftUXR8Yi5NWDUmT8e5jRuTlDhLE7LAltoo1XsognPzxhc4KSb duTYRRFRDNP/HWPVYiYlu9mkRXV2w6avwQHIdfJ5Il3ZT9CTkZm6Y3JrUd8T4q3fxzV9 LC2+AhKtdFz3Kg3uOxWcNv/U2oQpFfnUVzahc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 18:35:15 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Recording posted. Filtering *post* loop. Oomingmak... From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <7nOps.A.EwD.EDGJOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110962 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:35:16 +0000 (UTC) I just built a new Bidule session for Mobius and here's the improvised test ride sound check: http://soundcloud.com/pboy/sticktronix-diabolica Just made two loops with the Stick Guitar but the cool thing happening here is that Bidule offers enough CPU muscles to put dynamic filtering plugins on the five loop channel outputs. With the i7 2-core MBP I found the best sound is when sticking with only one core in Bidule. I tried all combinations for multi-core distribution in Bidule but could not get rid of sound artifacts. On one core the output sounds crystal clear. I'm quite happy withe Oomingmak audio-pitch-to-synth-wave plugin from Expert Sleepers (much more useful to me than traditional guitar type fuzz/dist/overdrive). ESPECIALLY when the loops you record through Oomingmak can be played back through live tweaked FilterFreak and PhaseMistress (SoundToys.com). The incremental rotary encoder pot knobs of the Faderfox mini hand mixer works like a charm for tweaking filters on loop channel outputs. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 18 18:34:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C645F18345E; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 18:34:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E24788A.6000809@soundscapes.us> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:16:42 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: The Soundscapes Concert Series THIS Sunday Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110963 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 18:34:20 +0000 (UTC) Reminder: Sunday, July 24, the Soundscapes Concert Series returns to the Nazareth Center for the Arts with Mark Jenkins of the UK. Mark Jenkins is the author of the acclaimed book and CD "ANALOG SYNTHESIZERS" and is the first musician in the world to release a CD created entirely on the Apple iPad. He has created music for concert performances, advertising, TV and CD releases, and has performed at the London Planetarium, London Royal Greenwich Observatory Planetarium, London South Bank, Carnegie Science Center Pittsburgh, National Theatre Brazil, and in France, Holland, and China. Doors open at 7:30 pm and the concert is at 8:00 pm. The concert is free. Donations are requested to support the musician and to enable the Nazareth Center for the Arts to pay operating expenses. The NCA is located at 30 Belvidere Street, Nazareth, PA 18064 just off of Route 191 on the southwest corner of Belvidere Street and South Spruce Street. I hope to see you there! Cheers, Bill Fox The Soundscapes Concert Series http://soundscapes.us From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 19 02:56:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D03FC18345C; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 02:56:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=PcYzUbw/M64enFO/TnUqmovmuInd7dnjxjZCyiCJffw=; b=X+qesqGXJqdclai8pwsVxBJFInaUgTutydLREhm0kYAWbeuNg/OQm3jmBw4tdXxfaa h21sQmxQ1TI4cYVLyjkrSYU5ZOPbK5VF5ixlIO2UjSmf0zE0JWlCEyHKWIH/8AMNcrmP dAB2CXyNzojegPENDynpQ6zDD/qY+jdpXR8Lk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 22:56:59 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: "For Cello and Birds" New video on You Tube From: Jim Goodin To: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Cc: DrTVideo@egroups.com, eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f3a66f71e6d04a8634422 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110964 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 02:56:59 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307f3a66f71e6d04a8634422 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Emile I loved this. Great interaction. Karen's score was really edgy and = a perfect contrast to your imagery and manipulation which I thought from the realism this was a really interesting chapter in your work. I'll wall this= . Jim On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) < emile@foryourhead.com> wrote: > Hi folks, > > I've posted another video on You Tube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?** > v=3DqqA1t6ovdPE . "For Cell= o and > Birds" is taken from my performance with Wisteriax on March 12, 2011 at 1= 19 > Gallery in Lowell, MA. Wisteriax is Karen Langlie's solo project for cell= o > and electronics -- spacy, ambient and very imaginative. I really enjoy > improvising with her, and the close attention she pays to the visuals > unifies the performance. > > I decided to divide our set into sections, and chose a different visual > theme to start each section. The theme for the first section was birds, a= nd > "For Cello and Birds" consists of this section. > > Special thanks go to Walter Wright and Mary Ann Kearns of 119 Gallery, > which hosted this event. > > > BTW Some of my photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/= * > *22231918@N06/collections/**72157603627170351/ > -- > " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley > > Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. > Video Producer Image Processing Specialist > Video for your HEAD! Boris FX > http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf307f3a66f71e6d04a8634422 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Emile I loved this. =A0Great interaction. =A0Karen's score was really e= dgy and a perfect contrast to your imagery and manipulation which I thought= from the realism this was a really interesting chapter in your work. =A0I&= #39;ll wall this.

Jim

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 a= t 9:35 PM, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) <emile@foryourhead.com> wrote:
Hi folks,

I've posted another video on You Tube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?<= u>v=3DqqA1t6ovdPE. "For Cello and Birds" is taken from my= performance with Wisteriax on March 12, 2011 at 119 Gallery in Lowell, MA.= Wisteriax is Karen Langlie's solo project for cello and electronics --= spacy, ambient and very imaginative. I really enjoy improvising with her, = and the close attention she pays to the visuals unifies the performance.
I decided to divide our set into sections, and chose a different visual the= me to start each section. The theme for the first section was birds, and &q= uot;For Cello and Birds" consists of this section.

Special thanks go to Walter Wright and Mary Ann Kearns of 119 Gallery, whic= h hosted this event.


BTW Some of my photography can be viewed at htt= p://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/7215760362= 7170351/
--
" Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." =A0-- Paul Bley
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D.
Video Producer =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Image Processing Speciali= st
Video for your HEAD! =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Boris FX
http://www.foryour= head.com =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://www.borisfx.com



--
From Brooklyn= To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter= Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF Interna= tional.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--20cf307f3a66f71e6d04a8634422-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 19 03:06:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0F0618345F; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 03:06:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3606 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 03:06:47 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 21:35:04 -0400 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: "For Cello and Birds" New video on You Tube Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110965 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 03:06:47 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I've posted another video on You Tube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqA1t6ovdPE. "For Cello and Birds" is taken from my performance with Wisteriax on March 12, 2011 at 119 Gallery in Lowell, MA. Wisteriax is Karen Langlie's solo project for cello and electronics -- spacy, ambient and very imaginative. I really enjoy improvising with her, and the close attention she pays to the visuals unifies the performance. I decided to divide our set into sections, and chose a different visual theme to start each section. The theme for the first section was birds, and "For Cello and Birds" consists of this section. Special thanks go to Walter Wright and Mary Ann Kearns of 119 Gallery, which hosted this event. BTW Some of my photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ -- " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 19 11:22:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CFEC218345E; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:22:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=ctoxyah0Nh2uWnGSQ2ZLjMMjlfLSQRVlfnxMvv7EVVk=; b=woTabSOUrPbzfK65lfvlcbuJOaB3UijDN7n6jwT9u9cifl7iztdPVB+RtLqg9nqDPo xSRBV+dHt2khBQUlpDcDEep9+IAJm0334+y0sUTgViXP6k8h5GQws8I0JIIf2zUo1iAf +vvdGNlnjmd2puMq0VOvY2teXyTJo3px6ef9Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 From: todd reynolds Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 07:22:14 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: New track. Sxip Shirey and Todd Reynolds. To: "Looper's Delight" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0023545bddecac60b104a86a5535 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110966 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:22:45 +0000 (UTC) --0023545bddecac60b104a86a5535 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://soundcloud.com/toddreyn/southdressingroom I'm doing the looping, Sxip's doing the soundcrafting with Bells, pitchshifting, tubes, etc. Twas a fun time for us... Cheers, all! http://soundcloud.com/toddreyn/southdressingroom --0023545bddecac60b104a86a5535 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


I'm doing the looping, =A0Sxip's doing the soundcrafting with B= ells, pitchshifting, =A0tubes, etc. =A0

Twas a fun time for us...=A0

Cheers= , all!=A0

http://soundcloud.com/toddreyn/southdressingroom






--0023545bddecac60b104a86a5535-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 19 11:40:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1A0318345E; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:40:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bD7vTD84jeJl0bXCtBQRV8a1NCTQN0PDY2zCnLHgEeE=; b=vSRq5FVpKLlHz/FCBzovkXgnFbcXfIOp42FLiLfiG3i+O43XEr96OxnXqEO9VPdR07 rIICfMikgjhJGc4n3cdFX6ueoF0HGabtUX35TE0qAFn4Sk+0evnte1sF9EJhwJCqKHLP hNJl/WZ48I5vO9I2DonMiNAY9FRCoL2z1l080= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 13:40:32 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New track. Sxip Shirey and Todd Reynolds. From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110967 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:40:33 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:22 PM, todd reynolds wrote: > http://soundcloud.com/toddreyn/southdressingroom > > I'm doing the looping, =C2=A0Sxip's doing the soundcrafting with Bells, > pitchshifting, =C2=A0tubes, etc. > Twas a fun time for us... Enjoying The Water Bears! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 19 13:01:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6FAD918345D; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 13:01:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A0B020C.4E258041.0199,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-libjamoibt: 1821 Message-ID: <12893591.5366441311080513638.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:01:53 +0200 (CEST) From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: Massimo Liverani To: Subject: R: FS Electrix Repeater MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_391885_5313335.1311080513637" X-SenderIP: 85.47.237.138 Resent-Message-ID: <5VC-U.A.wT.DBYJOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110968 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 13:01:55 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_391885_5313335.1311080513637 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, i got one repeater so excuse me, but i'm not interested by now but what is the 'Hitachi controller'? Massimo p { margin: 0; }p { margin: 0; }-->Since I haven't been using my Electrix Repeater much for a while I have decided to put it up for sale it and I'm offering it here first before it goes to Ebay. I'm the original owner and I bought it when they first came out. This is a fully functioning unit and has the original power supply and has not been modded. Other than taking it out to a few gigs in a rack case when I first got it, it's been in my smoke free music room in a rack ever since.I have the box and all manuals and I have ALL versions of the operating system on Flash cards. I have several Flash cards for sale that have the Hitachi controller which are FULLY COMPATIBLE with all recording functions on the Repeater Original 16 MB CFC with Electrix logo128 MB Simpletech CFC 256 MB Simpletech CFC512 MB Pretec CFC Also one 32MB SanDisk CFC that the very last operating system came loaded on (I never used this for recording but I suspect it doesn't have the Hitachi controller or allow ALL functions in real time) I would like to sell all of this as a package deal. I know compatible CF cards are very hard to find but I don't want to get into selling the CF cards separately so please don't ask. I'd like to get $800 for everything with the buyer paying shipping. I'll take Paypal so email me and we can talk and spare us both the Ebay nonsense. Thanks for looking!! Ed Drake ------=_Part_391885_5313335.1311080513637 Content-Type: text/html;charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi, i got one repeater so excuse me= , but i'm not interested by now but what is the

'Hitachi controller'?


Massimo



Since I haven't been using my= Electrix Repeater much for a while I have decided to put it up for sale it= and I'm offering it here first before it goes to Ebay.

= I'm the original owner and I bought it when they first came out. This is a = fully functioning unit and has the original power supply and has not been m= odded. Other than taking it out to a few gigs in a rack case when I first g= ot it, it's been in my smoke free music room in a rack ever since.
I have the box and all manuals and I have ALL versions of the operating s= ystem on Flash cards.

I have several Flash cards f= or sale that have the Hitachi controller which are FULLY COMPATIBLE with al= l recording functions on the Repeater 

Origin= al 16 MB CFC with Electrix logo
128 MB Simpletech CFC 
=
256 MB Simpletech CFC
512 MB Pretec CFC

=
Also one 32MB SanDisk CFC that the very last operating system came loa= ded on (I never used this for recording but I suspect it doesn't have the H= itachi controller or allow ALL functions in real time)

=
I would like to sell all of this as a package deal. I know compatible = CF cards are very hard to find but I don't want to get into selling the CF = cards separately so please don't ask.

I'd like to = get $800 for everything with the buyer paying shipping. I'll take Paypal so= email me and we can talk and spare us both the Ebay nonsense.
Thanks for looking!!

Ed Drake


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------=_Part_391885_5313335.1311080513637-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 19 13:13:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 82B5918345D; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 13:13:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=JI0YeL8v4mPHnALjN7v9V+Dkl5ihnVA7/NdCxmnwlk4=; b=seaUUb2ZCC4XHG96N9SYsp/BsaUc/t6F6Y2IURC6q3yu//Kaeo3AG+0/4zK0gYP4q5 E5cZBAuxehQFe+g0NRfUyvdV+3Zd4j0BWvlpiwVtGn4qwFfsiKUtuGcX6I2iq5f3kF7d jCxtoEkHSXHklX6ZXQI1ch5RgbdIix2WiSjdA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: todd reynolds Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 09:13:25 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New track. Sxip Shirey and Todd Reynolds. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151748de7c4b2d9004a86be31f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110969 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 13:13:56 +0000 (UTC) --00151748de7c4b2d9004a86be31f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 thanks, Per! > > Enjoying The Water Bears! > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > --00151748de7c4b2d9004a86be31f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks, Per! =A0



Enjoying The Water Bears!

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen



--00151748de7c4b2d9004a86be31f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 19 15:32:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B178618345E; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:32:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 487 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:32:57 UTC Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:24:48 +0000 (UTC) From: eddrake1@comcast.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <1944680085.848891.1311089088258.JavaMail.root@sz0056a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <12893591.5366441311080513638.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> Subject: Re: R: FS Electrix Repeater MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_848890_736472478.1311089088258" X-Originating-IP: [68.57.82.124] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.10_GA_2704 (ZimbraWebClient - SAF3 (Mac)/6.0.10_GA_2697) Resent-Message-ID: <5dp0j.A.cfC.pOaJOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110970 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:32:57 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_848890_736472478.1311089088258 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Massimo, The Hitachi controller was only in certain flash cards and cards with this controller are fast enough to allow all real time recording functions to the card (such as recording backwards) without error messages. Cards with the Hitachi controller were always hard to find and cost more and are almost impossible to find now. Some Pretec and Simple Tech cards had the Hitachi controller. You can use any compact flash card in the Repeater but if you push the slower cards too hard they will throw the error message and not be able to keep up. I still have the Repeater and Flash cards for sale and haven't put them on ebay yet. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Massimo Liverani" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 9:01:53 AM Subject: R: FS Electrix Repeater Hi, i got one repeater so excuse me, but i'm not interested by now but what is the 'Hitachi controller'? Massimo Since I haven't been using my Electrix Repeater much for a while I have decided to put it up for sale it and I'm offering it here first before it goes to Ebay. I'm the original owner and I bought it when they first came out. This is a fully functioning unit and has the original power supply and has not been modded. Other than taking it out to a few gigs in a rack case when I first got it, it's been in my smoke free music room in a rack ever since. I have the box and all manuals and I have ALL versions of the operating system on Flash cards. I have several Flash cards for sale that have the Hitachi controller which are FULLY COMPATIBLE with all recording functions on the Repeater Original 16 MB CFC with Electrix logo 128 MB Simpletech CFC 256 MB Simpletech CFC 512 MB Pretec CFC Also one 32MB SanDisk CFC that the very last operating system came loaded on (I never used this for recording but I suspect it doesn't have the Hitachi controller or allow ALL functions in real time) I would like to sell all of this as a package deal. I know compatible CF cards are very hard to find but I don't want to get into selling the CF cards separately so please don't ask. I'd like to get $800 for everything with the buyer paying shipping. I'll take Paypal so email me and we can talk and spare us both the Ebay nonsense. Thanks for looking!! Ed Drake ------=_Part_848890_736472478.1311089088258 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>
Massi= mo,

The Hitachi controller was only in certain flash car= ds and cards with this controller are fast enough to allow all real time re= cording functions to the card (such as recording backwards) without error m= essages. Cards with the Hitachi controller were always hard to find and cos= t more and are almost impossible to find now. Some Pretec and Simple Tech c= ards had the Hitachi controller. You can use any compact flash card in the = Repeater but if you push the slower cards too hard they will throw the erro= r message and not be able to keep up.

I still have= the Repeater and Flash cards for sale and haven't put them on ebay yet.

Ed
From: "Massimo Liveran= i" <mas.liv@libero.it>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.= com
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 9:01:53 AM
Subject: R:= FS Electrix Repeater

Hi, i = got one repeater so excuse me, but i'm not interested by now but what is th= e

'Hitachi controller'?


Massimo



Since I haven't been= using my Electrix Repeater much for a while I have decided to put it up fo= r sale it and I'm offering it here first before it goes to Ebay.

I'm the original owner and I bought it when they first came out. T= his is a fully functioning unit and has the original power supply and has n= ot been modded. Other than taking it out to a few gigs in a rack case when = I first got it, it's been in my smoke free music room in a rack ever since.=
I have the box and all manuals and I have ALL versions of the op= erating system on Flash cards.

I have several Flas= h cards for sale that have the Hitachi controller which are FULLY COMPATIBL= E with all recording functions on the Repeater 

Original 16 MB CFC with Electrix logo
128 MB Simpletech CFC&nb= sp;
256 MB Simpletech CFC
512 MB Pretec CFC
<= br>
Also one 32MB SanDisk CFC that the very last operating system= came loaded on (I never used this for recording but I suspect it doesn't h= ave the Hitachi controller or allow ALL functions in real time)
<= br>
I would like to sell all of this as a package deal. I know co= mpatible CF cards are very hard to find but I don't want to get into sellin= g the CF cards separately so please don't ask.

I'd= like to get $800 for everything with the buyer paying shipping. I'll take = Paypal so email me and we can talk and spare us both the Ebay nonsense.

Thanks for looking!!

Ed Drak= e

 

------=_Part_848890_736472478.1311089088258-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 20 01:48:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 43023183462; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 01:48:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 209204.4821.bm@omp1059.mail.bf1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1311126509; bh=bp/ONbsyqpVBKe3bnk78USj22QHFXAv2jWGpjm3pIOw=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GXSpjlEJj6g41hDXtyWl8Qh2a5ScVQ55hAlauBQ8ZFPAA2kYOhpu6zljpQbkW7WI8Cw9IN2M6ZN6bxYYDKnPhGVEd/zknhr5z6Zm3fNVWweZkgX6j1IDJlITxOXlowVK9DbC5F1KLIeb9x+Xp+B6yrSS6YcvWJCt2x+d4KiqYxc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Q9hlcw3A71XRmWlFfrnOJYtTQPnE1BeG8FqrFtnTnnOw2dhF+nzfknUtn2fGVfpbVti23DNCFpMqiatlk8xrknrpHt0QZAgoQiD8uds7x04s+3ibHshVgDQ5FSo57u4mxn8FhV9t5JSu03iKkroA9ynzzClnI/TIWKlYh7Co4V0=; X-YMail-OSG: 4N4NjLMVM1kExvEX1a1qkwBHgJwj7hXv.oxBmpzThANfGyq xX0KRQsseX8E.vUt2RJoP30sEgyDXHW9vSFNaq0ZCEh0X_e49qqF5jSiyAGe 18IEmrQLTqov7iIPyAr8LTFKLcEE_TXF8GGskZ6492xR8b9KUDlG_Uvn3S0u bo_XaquJ80UaWElx5FgZG8F1d9JaFI3GC9vvG9gdf_YQavwIzXC1UMkCnAXp CNbPcDhkIp375HMy4B2DhCTOobO_Wt1nyLGVB1qCxbnbEal3_Vq3OJqPIhPc qQbxqKApKFphL9wLPjSifrANiqiN59NYgdxmiM8g4QAMZneRHocD3UtMJw4l LBixUGqPeTdE6CkeWZt3oiVa5zYi8gfBkH2W9567sgef98wmBTPHmlbAx X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.112.307740 Message-ID: <1311126509.41866.YahooMailClassic@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:48:29 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Subject: OT: bi-amping To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-151790563-1311126509=:41866" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110971 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 01:48:31 +0000 (UTC) --0-151790563-1311126509=:41866 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii So, I'd like experiment with bi-amping, i.e., splitting my double bass' signal between hi- and lo-frequencies and running it into two different amps. Is there an easy way to do this? I know some pre-amps have this capacity but I'm hoping that there's a floor pedal or a/b box that can do this. ted. Or would you sing somethin' different. Somethin' real. Somethin' *you* felt. Cause I'm telling you right now, that's the kind of song people want to hear. That's the kind of song that truly saves people. It ain't got nothin to do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with believin' in yourself. Sam Phillips, "Walk the Line" --0-151790563-1311126509=:41866 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
So, I'd like experiment with bi-amping, i.e., splitting my double bass' signal between hi- and lo-frequencies and running it into two different amps.

Is there an easy way to do this?

I know some pre-amps have this capacity but I'm hoping that there's a floor pedal or a/b box that can do this.


ted.

Or would you sing somethin' different. Somethin' real. Somethin' *you* felt. Cause I'm telling you right now, that's the kind of song people want to hear. That's the kind of song that truly saves people. It ain't got nothin to do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with believin' in yourself. Sam Phillips, "Walk the Line"
--0-151790563-1311126509=:41866-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 20 04:50:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F371E183466; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 04:50:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZON2hzFapgSYIdesVuONi+2MUQT5BWVyKlU/MJO+NYw=; b=oDriEcaITuta6rzeSn29ltB68B59++yUQEFmJuB7tDVsVoIrzbIDh0NyIy1hhgS2nt 9dkO/Kmc/pDeHl0qREqwAgTA1seWnl5dJFOUndCWZkTk3VOisdStr3vG6LnuvGYnOKRp NHyglzzTSnwSgmnWEg/I0+Mo16mTnUJuleJyw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 13:50:30 +0900 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New track. Sxip Shirey and Todd Reynolds. From: michael noble To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110972 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 04:50:32 +0000 (UTC) That's a fun piece of improv. Lots of great dynamics and character. Thanks for sharing. On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:22 PM, todd reynolds wrote: > http://soundcloud.com/toddreyn/southdressingroom > > I'm doing the looping, =A0Sxip's doing the soundcrafting with Bells, > pitchshifting, =A0tubes, etc. > Twas a fun time for us... > Cheers, all! > http://soundcloud.com/toddreyn/southdressingroom > > > > > > --=20 networking practice for sound environments :: http://nowhere.iamnobody.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 20 08:29:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37DA0183462; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 08:29:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 645921947/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.21.23/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.21.23 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkkCAHmRJk5YbRUX/2dsb2JhbAAMSJhc3ACGPQSXZotm X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.67,233,1309734000"; d="scan'208";a="645921947" Message-ID: <4E2691E2.6010600@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 09:29:22 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: bi-amping References: <1311126509.41866.YahooMailClassic@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1311126509.41866.YahooMailClassic@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110973 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 08:29:23 +0000 (UTC) ditch wrestler wrote: > So, I'd like experiment with bi-amping, i.e., splitting my double bass' > signal between hi- and lo-frequencies and running it into two different > amps. > > Is there an easy way to do this? I run my electric bass through a single JBL Eon 15. Just hooking up bass-preamp-powered speaker. That must be the easiest....(Eons are bi-amped internally) You could get a simple active crossover unit. Or do it with the tone controls on the amp...that works. If you use 2 amps then hum can be a problem you'll need to solve with some kind of a ground lift on one of the amps. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 20 11:21:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EBCB9183461; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 11:21:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A0B020D.4E26B223.01EA,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-libjamoibt: 1821 Message-ID: <11556946.148451311158819752.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 12:46:59 +0200 (CEST) From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: Massimo Liverani To: Subject: R: Re: R: FS Electrix Repeater MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_11182_16255830.1311158819752" X-SenderIP: 85.47.237.138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110974 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 11:21:25 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_11182_16255830.1311158819752 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you Ed, your explanation was clear, and i realize now that all that umpredictable errors of bad cfc etc that i got live with my repeater and that was one of the reason cause i use it only sometimes and only in studio werecause by that.Not interested to sell separately one of your flash with hitachi controller? I can immagine your response but i'd like to ask you.Max ----Messaggio originale---- Da: eddrake1@comcast.net Data: 19/07/2011 17.24 A: Ogg: Re: R: FS Electrix Repeater p { margin: 0; }p { margin: 0; }--> Massimo, The Hitachi controller was only in certain flash cards and cards with this controller are fast enough to allow all real time recording functions to the card (such as recording backwards) without error messages. Cards with the Hitachi controller were always hard to find and cost more and are almost impossible to find now. Some Pretec and Simple Tech cards had the Hitachi controller. You can use any compact flash card in the Repeater but if you push the slower cards too hard they will throw the error message and not be able to keep up. I still have the Repeater and Flash cards for sale and haven't put them on ebay yet. Ed From: "Massimo Liverani" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 9:01:53 AM Subject: R: FS Electrix Repeater Hi, i got one repeater so excuse me, but i'm not interested by now but what is the 'Hitachi controller'? Massimo p { margin: 0; }p { margin: 0; }p { margin: 0; }-->Since I haven't been using my Electrix Repeater much for a while I have decided to put it up for sale it and I'm offering it here first before it goes to Ebay. I'm the original owner and I bought it when they first came out. This is a fully functioning unit and has the original power supply and has not been modded. Other than taking it out to a few gigs in a rack case when I first got it, it's been in my smoke free music room in a rack ever since.I have the box and all manuals and I have ALL versions of the operating system on Flash cards. I have several Flash cards for sale that have the Hitachi controller which are FULLY COMPATIBLE with all recording functions on the Repeater Original 16 MB CFC with Electrix logo128 MB Simpletech CFC 256 MB Simpletech CFC512 MB Pretec CFC Also one 32MB SanDisk CFC that the very last operating system came loaded on (I never used this for recording but I suspect it doesn't have the Hitachi controller or allow ALL functions in real time) I would like to sell all of this as a package deal. I know compatible CF cards are very hard to find but I don't want to get into selling the CF cards separately so please don't ask. I'd like to get $800 for everything with the buyer paying shipping. I'll take Paypal so email me and we can talk and spare us both the Ebay nonsense. Thanks for looking!! Ed Drake ------=_Part_11182_16255830.1311158819752 Content-Type: text/html;charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thank you Ed, your explanation was = clear, and i realize now that all that umpredictable errors of bad cfc etc&= nbsp;

that i got live with my r= epeater and that was one of the reason cause i use it only sometimes and on= ly in studio were

cause by that.=

Not interested to sell separate= ly one of your flash with hitachi controller?

I can immagine your response but i'd like to ask you.

Max



----Messaggio originale----
Da: eddrake1@comcast.net
Data: 19/07/2011 17.24
A: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Ogg: Re: R: FS Electrix Repeater


Massimo,

The Hitachi controller was only in certain flash cards and cards with th= is controller are fast enough to allow all real time recording functions to= the card (such as recording backwards) without error messages. Cards with = the Hitachi controller were always hard to find and cost more and are almos= t impossible to find now. Some Pretec and Simple Tech cards had the Hitachi= controller. You can use any compact flash card in the Repeater but if you = push the slower cards too hard they will throw the error message and not be= able to keep up.

I still have the Repeater and Fl= ash cards for sale and haven't put them on ebay yet.

Ed
From: "Massimo Liverani" <mas.liv@liber= o.it>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: = Tuesday, July 19, 2011 9:01:53 AM
Subject: R: FS Electrix Repeate= r

Hi, i got one repeater so excuse me, but i'm not interested = by now but what is the

'Hitachi controller'?


Massimo



Since I have= n't been using my Electrix Repeater much for a while I have decided to put = it up for sale it and I'm offering it here first before it goes to Ebay.
I'm the original owner and I bought it when they first cam= e out. This is a fully functioning unit and has the original power supply a= nd has not been modded. Other than taking it out to a few gigs in a rack ca= se when I first got it, it's been in my smoke free music room in a rack eve= r since.
I have the box and all manuals and I have ALL versions o= f the operating system on Flash cards.

I have seve= ral Flash cards for sale that have the Hitachi controller which are FULLY C= OMPATIBLE with all recording functions on the Repeater 

=
Original 16 MB CFC with Electrix logo
128 MB Simpletec= h CFC 
256 MB Simpletech CFC
512 MB Pretec CFC

Also one 32MB SanDisk CFC that the very last operatin= g system came loaded on (I never used this for recording but I suspect it d= oesn't have the Hitachi controller or allow ALL functions in real time)

I would like to sell all of this as a package deal. I= know compatible CF cards are very hard to find but I don't want to get int= o selling the CF cards separately so please don't ask.

=
I'd like to get $800 for everything with the buyer paying shipping. I'= ll take Paypal so email me and we can talk and spare us both the Ebay nonse= nse.

Thanks for looking!!

Ed Drake




------=_Part_11182_16255830.1311158819752-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 20 11:25:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB69F183462; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 11:25:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com To: Subject: =?UTF-8?B?RmxvcmVuY2U=?= From: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 13:25:14 +0200 Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) User-Agent: NOCC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110975 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 11:25:15 +0000 (UTC) I've posted a short blog entry about the Florence loopfest ... that is, the first day of it, because I missed the 2nd day. There is also a youtube clip with sections from my set http://veloopity.blogspot.com/2011/07/suitcase-full-of-stars.html -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 20 12:14:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3BB6183466; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 12:14:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: New track. Sxip Shirey and Todd Reynolds. From: jayrope LD In-Reply-To: <20110720112126.4B121183474@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 14:13:59 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <42B354F2-2A07-46EB-88D5-5499B95C076C@kliklak.net> References: <20110720112126.4B121183474@arsenic.violacea.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kliklak.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110976 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 12:14:03 +0000 (UTC) Excellent work, love the storytelling and humor in there :) Is that a fiddle? If so, how do you pickup the signal? Recently inherited a wonderful viola and wonder how to electricize this. (Besides proper intonation, whoa oh) j - - -=20 jayrope http://www.kliklak.net On Jul 20, 2011, at 1:21 PM, = Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote: > That's a fun piece of improv. Lots of great dynamics and character. > Thanks for sharing. >=20 > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:22 PM, todd reynolds = wrote: >> http://soundcloud.com/toddreyn/southdressingroom >>=20 >> I'm doing the looping, Sxip's doing the soundcrafting with Bells, >> pitchshifting, tubes, etc. >> Twas a fun time for us... >> Cheers, all! >> http://soundcloud.com/toddreyn/southdressingroom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 20 12:37:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 61144183460; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 12:37:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=yyx6OIZNy/p5mmnk3wG9cvgoTOoInygtmWTCgNCa7b0=; b=UXNW2435501BHshwYGLSkNGWBTzf7wKY4mKDCn3zWxFRIy64eZJDsp4L4Kr8hI0qc/ LdDIL1tM26dZX+gxN4DRi8C3k47URyMWyWVKAF1nTBvYavoyjtOwSkLIcABYzsrMeSDU 1QvSK2xy0uwtGWGcTqN7LEcI2XB6cxn1nrdMw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <42B354F2-2A07-46EB-88D5-5499B95C076C@kliklak.net> References: <20110720112126.4B121183474@arsenic.violacea.com> <42B354F2-2A07-46EB-88D5-5499B95C076C@kliklak.net> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 14:37:04 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New track. Sxip Shirey and Todd Reynolds. From: Johannes Korn To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec52be4535b40ac04a87f7d0c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110977 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 12:37:06 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec52be4535b40ac04a87f7d0c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi j, I can recommend the Fishman V100 pickup. It's not too expensive, can be installed without any modifications to the instrument, and sounds quite decent. Best regards, Johannes 2011/7/20 jayrope LD > > Recently inherited a wonderful viola and wonder how to electricize this. > (Besides proper intonation, whoa oh) > j > - - - > jayrope > http://www.kliklak.net > > On Jul 20, 2011, at 1:21 PM, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.comwrote: > > > That's a fun piece of improv. Lots of great dynamics and character. > > Thanks for sharing. > > > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:22 PM, todd reynolds > wrote: > >> http://soundcloud.com/toddreyn/southdressingroom > >> > >> I'm doing the looping, Sxip's doing the soundcrafting with Bells, > >> pitchshifting, tubes, etc. > >> Twas a fun time for us... > >> Cheers, all! > >> http://soundcloud.com/toddreyn/southdressingroom > > -- jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com www.myspace.com/nashorn --bcaec52be4535b40ac04a87f7d0c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi j,

I can recommend the Fishman V100 pickup. It's = not too expensive, can be installed without any modifications to the instru= ment, and sounds quite decent.

Best regards,
Johannes


2011/7/20 jayrop= e LD <jrploo= pers@kliklak.net>

Recently inherited a wonderful viola and wonder how to electricize this. (Besides proper intonation, whoa oh)
j
- - -
jayrope
http://www.kliklak.net=

On Jul 20, 2011, at 1:21 PM, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote:=

> That's a fun piece of improv. Lots of great dynamics and character= .
> Thanks for sharing.
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:22 PM, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:
>> http://soundcloud.com/toddreyn/southdressingroom
>>
>> I'm doing the looping, =A0Sxip's doing the soundcrafting w= ith Bells,
>> pitchshifting, =A0tubes, etc.
>> Twas a fun time for us...
>> Cheers, all!
>> http://soundcloud.com/toddreyn/southdressingroom




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--bcaec52be4535b40ac04a87f7d0c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 20 14:26:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F863183462; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 14:26:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E26E58E.4050601@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 07:26:22 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: todd reynolds CC: "Looper's Delight" Subject: Re: New track. Sxip Shirey and Todd Reynolds. References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110978 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 14:26:29 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, todd reynolds wrote: > > I'm doing the looping, Sxip's doing the soundcrafting with Bells, > pitchshifting, tubes, etc. > > Twas a fun time for us... I'm really enjoying listening to this track, Todd! This sounds like a commercially releasable outing. One of my favorite things in looping is to do all the looping for an acoustic artist in a duet. It produces such interesting results. The processor can't control what the acoustic musician is doing and the acoustic musician can't control how they are processed. With big ears as are so beautifully evidenced here, the results are unlike what anyone can do by themselves. I'd love to fly Nat Grant and I in the next time you guys set up shop to join in the 'out of the box' percussive fun! We're going to do a duet at the Luggage Store for this coming Loop Festival. I'm excited to play with her again. She's so creative. Thanks for sharing. rick walker > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 20 14:37:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 85534183462; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 14:37:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E26E81A.90601@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 07:37:14 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ditch wrestler CC: Loopers Delight Subject: Re: OT: bi-amping References: <1311126509.41866.YahooMailClassic@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1311126509.41866.YahooMailClassic@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110979 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 14:37:18 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, ditch wrestler wrote: > So, I'd like experiment with bi-amping, i.e., splitting my double > bass' signal between hi- and lo-frequencies and running it into two > different amps. > > Is there an easy way to do this? This may be ridiculously lo fi, but what I do in my 'rhythm n' noise' project 'aEther Engine' is to take a simple y-chord straight out of my Strat (male 1/4" into Strat, two female 1/4" out to two guitar cables; 1) one line going to treble oriented noise/slicin' dicing effects table and then onto a tiny 5 watt, Vox guitar amp and 2) the other line going through bass oriented octaver/noise/slicin' dicin' effects table and then onto a tiny 5 watt Roland Bass Cube. I mic each of these amps (and have them up on keyboard stands so that they are at a perfect height for me to walk straight up to them for controlled feedback effects) and send the two mic-ed channels through my Looperlative and on into the main P.A. It works great for me. I have complete volume control of the two channels by merely controlling the output volume of the little cube amps. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 20 14:57:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2126B183463; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 14:57:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E26ECD1.1000603@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 07:57:21 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Randolf Arriola mentioned in Bangkok Post Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110980 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 14:57:24 +0000 (UTC) Our own Randolf Arriola got this cool mention (with a description of live looping) in the Bangkok Post tech section. (thanks to Gary Hall for finding it). http://www.bangkokpost.com/tech/gadget/247703/technology-in-harmony Congratulations, Randolf! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 20 14:59:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D377C183473; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 14:59:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 14:59:07 UTC Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 16:52:25 +0200 (CEST) From: andi mathoy Reply-To: a.mathoy@aon.at To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <18484599.9599.1311173545538.JavaMail.root@WARSBL214.highway.telekom.at> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re:Florence MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: 80.109.152.66 X-Mailer: aon Webmail Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110981 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 14:59:07 +0000 (UTC) good performance, i like it a lot. very interesting sounds and rythms, beautiful stars blinking out sometimes = :-) congrats andi ----- Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht ----- Von: "" Erhalten: 20.07.2011 13:25 An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com I've posted a short blog entry about the Florence loopfest ... that is, the= first day of it, because I missed the 2nd day. There is also a youtube cli= p with sections from my set http://veloopity.blogspot.com/2011/07/suitcase-full-of-stars.html -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 20 16:31:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B4F46183462; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 16:31:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 256436.84752.bm@omp1023.mail.ird.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.no; s=s1024; t=1311179469; bh=y6m7OcW0nbyxyYg2JJH/IMO30ZXZE3GdTuTojMzv3jg=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KMTVACuTEEtOTGblXn0AGaL4Ob3C77B83UJeAcCY+9qQtgwJjER6EmdICOmyVaRmpEDETPar4emzP3XcYNCwwNDwD5qr3tNAM597TbMTfo2aNfTADb0qc+TUMPV5BK5+0/9vWR1apkqgbOG/dPKnlu7LD/p48iwI35bA0+yqfyM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GRmSCwlqWZM4vvMve91SouFcm0haLRc865CrqEgJwYSZXPi5Q5Uk+w6rPvNta9YH7DYoRCeW+soHTvQPc0TnoLKqrDzJ8eO8jU+aM3XwVcieyxISOqeIvztkyWXr6tXUnpuy6whMhmmeNaKFsZ79RlDkBisAUXFSbQKgSQNeeVI=; X-YMail-OSG: wx7fUKsVM1k4zunXT_x5ziTSur0udnC7iaPmZjSa7E0xGdl 2Rf2Y6GzP0nnvGca85dGqT34T1.WPufMN7k8._ScYHGBtB20ToFu82xEVVx_ RZnzqzIY2sGg8yIKifOPszOEFcBFUItxUOmXD7v8vkUpqXyO9y91n4hpnolg tRd1dxLvarCFjQq_vu2GZoqzh1fT1shQ8NVytWclsbf6H7aF5yU8LuVelx1n T0qFOVvp6_L0Sk1LYSecgMvmMuFtcklu2BJ1U13EItjhVjJtRvuRKR1kr9l5 VJrExccwe6zxDy1tFP2xSN.cCacs_2KJ6ziW1QkScWP8b2xxlnNlO2VQQjcE CkQroug7BbKXHrcN8F6jq73PkXMbhbXd4kfKxDq3agN11fQ6Ij98EUk42QLP dW6H6UUuNwcfjFdTrjxFUwrkfjNVq0jHGdhZCYJnDaK9PuLwlf1zCnujUtLO rZV2MUnLJMea0MaeUa8Y- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.112.310352 Message-ID: <1311179469.71930.YahooMailClassic@web29703.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 17:31:09 +0100 (BST) From: rune fagereng Subject: Stian Westerhus - guitar To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1454237125-1311179469=:71930" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110982 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 16:31:10 +0000 (UTC) --0-1454237125-1311179469=:71930 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi=A0 Here`s Stian Westerhus; delay, looping, guitar...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dfm5a9t8PcdU&feature=3Drelated best regards Rune F.=A0 --0-1454237125-1311179469=:71930 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi 

Here`s Stian West= erhus; delay, looping, guitar......

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best regards Rune F. 
--0-1454237125-1311179469=:71930-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 20 17:09:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE092183462; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 17:09:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 906416.94933.bm@omp1046.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1311181793; bh=tDcHXfY+YVskohy0sLh4OLpB4MGpXtQy3BNtzBISExs=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Ozf4YLlGPYGVWpJFOhLBkvOxUljX1jEMlCVvNcptkzCLLoG7lKxkz8troeJPJUIStQ56D17AxcMK61jtA/gS1pHkQ/+lswJj/qrWAsiBDGcLKpUGH+CxpajsV+y+tw9Y4AOykrhpFW9PwgZJ//QfcNVbM4pNeOQnzv1JhDbRKfw= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yicT1NZ+tNQNWLf7LjODMdPJb6mUPMxdEW83gZsi4CGNcZRMO9DaYCKHLTPoXcNix02w7NDwZpYXzk0EBjaDc/KOR4F3T5Dt+yVAvvOtiAZdpjrglFNe1hfgozrgvufO15i5Cqq3+cEviaIiz3zy/fFEY9C46mdqaCNJ2uXGUiM=; X-YMail-OSG: .bmtHccVM1nRZwNS1ILx117d8vcGs.YcTX0Lulf8FZf6m_2 i8HjDLUoZxPQf_hu5wkZcuMSzGtNiSqzstz4cI3M_hWFtkXWhZUKGfSr6aFo DN.8cN3c1E25LQtbcIYtcN_Wjy25bVUR0icLEeGyXGJfPiIlGXM74oCF.HuK xHLvQFS7PEKDYjmfgGNk881AKyWCnjKIiwgpHf7.YXxFodPsmB2u_SXuXwr2 gPN.i2V.eFfc9_GEuyjHnfW0lbZO7A1jPNxZwrQXSc8AxjAoeiLaU7KnAUmi R6xLjXe.b_fTx47KzE0TXVV9yMS6fYt7EftE5gyRloL1To_lj3Ul1Qbjj1VU iV3lLcskF6xgIaU8PCTgxTi73eSFTxwboEUdwuPzmz9DZ44ndlkUcAc6YiJi 6LpLIMH9F_NAixw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.112.307740 Message-ID: <1311181793.71282.YahooMailClassic@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:09:53 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Subject: Re: OT: bi-amping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4E26E81A.90601@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1760406914-1311181793=:71282" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110983 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 17:09:54 +0000 (UTC) --0-1760406914-1311181793=:71282 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0 That is lovingly low-tech, Rick! =A0 But last time I ran that set-up and had a volume pedal on each line, one vo= lume pedal would override the other so I couldn't just have one line but ha= d to have both. =A0 Maybe there was a matching problem - can't recall if my cables were trs or = not... =A0 =A0 ted. Or would you sing somethin' different. Somethin' real. Somethin' *you* felt= . Cause I'm telling you right now, that's the kind of song people want to h= ear. That's the kind of song that truly saves people. It ain't got nothin t= o do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with believin' in yourse= lf. Sam Phillips, "Walk the Line" --- On Wed, 7/20/11, Rick Walker wrote: From: Rick Walker Subject: Re: OT: bi-amping To: "ditch wrestler" Cc: "Loopers Delight" Received: Wednesday, July 20, 2011, 7:37 AM On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, ditch wrestler wrote: > So, I'd like experiment with bi-amping, i.e., splitting my double bass' s= ignal between hi- and lo-frequencies and running it into two different amps= . >=20 > Is there an easy way to do this? This may be ridiculously lo fi,=A0 but what I do in my 'rhythm n' noise'=A0= project=A0 'aEther Engine' is to take a simple y-chord straight out of my Strat (male 1/4" into Strat,=A0 two female 1/4" = out to=A0 two guitar cables; 1) one line going to treble oriented noise/slicin' dicing effects table and= then onto a tiny 5 watt, Vox guitar amp and 2) the other line going through bass oriented octaver/noise/slicin' dicin' = effects table and then onto a tiny 5 watt Roland Bass Cube. I mic each of these amps (and have them up on keyboard stands so that they = are at a perfect height for me to walk straight up to them for controlled feedback effects)=A0 and send the two mic-ed channels through my= Looperlative and on into the main P.A. It works great for me. I have complete volume control of the two channels by merely controlling th= e output volume of the little cube amps. rick walker --0-1760406914-1311181793=:71282 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
That is lovingly low-tech, Rick!
 
But last time I ran that set-up and had a volume pedal on each line, o= ne volume pedal would override the other so I couldn't just have one line b= ut had to have both.
 
Maybe there was a matching problem - can't recall if my cables were tr= s or not...
 
 
ted.

Or would you sing somethin' different. Somethin' real. Som= ethin' *you* felt. Cause I'm telling you right now, that's the kind of song= people want to hear. That's the kind of song that truly saves people. It a= in't got nothin to do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with be= lievin' in yourself. Sam Phillips, "Walk the Line"

--- On Wed, 7/= 20/11, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

From: Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>
= Subject: Re: OT: bi-amping
To: "ditch wrestler" <ditchwrestler@yahoo.= com>
Cc: "Loopers Delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>= ;
Received: Wednesday, July 20, 2011, 7:37 AM

On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, ditch wrestler wrote:
> S= o, I'd like experiment with bi-amping, i.e., splitting my double bass' sign= al between hi- and lo-frequencies and running it into two different amps.>
> Is there an easy way to do this?
This may be ridiculousl= y lo fi,  but what I do in my 'rhythm n' noise'  project  'a= Ether Engine' is to take a simple
y-chord straight out of my Strat (male= 1/4" into Strat,  two female 1/4" out to  two guitar cables;
=
1) one line going to treble oriented noise/slicin' dicing effects table= and then onto a tiny 5 watt, Vox guitar amp and

2) the other line g= oing through bass oriented octaver/noise/slicin' dicin' effects table and t= hen onto a tiny 5 watt
Roland Bass Cube.

I mic each of these amps= (and have them up on keyboard stands so that they are at a perfect height = for me to walk straight up to them for
controlled feedback effects)  and send the two mic-ed channels through my Looperlative an= d on into the main P.A.

It works great for me.

I have complet= e volume control of the two channels by merely controlling the output volum= e of the little cube amps.

rick walker

--0-1760406914-1311181793=:71282-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 20 17:38:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C49F018345D; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 17:38:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=cAy1PFB+NSld2lrV4klXzjRSSHVH/j9F18y4rO9zVZY=; b=DLcFoU210wV3pQesfJuTYyXdvKktV/ja7JtuGn3Amp6IScKMBkF0QzzyU2baUwLUXv hd/Mi8saYTgrguEXmEU/5sCW8lo36eptw6h9GOab/Wu+mTChNqVfqphbgh4TXOLy/HjX Llw9wnwIQ5BCiFB6LdRZN6taR48hNMHgIsNtE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E26ECD1.1000603@cruzio.com> References: <4E26ECD1.1000603@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 13:38:26 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Randolf Arriola mentioned in Bangkok Post From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3079b7c41e3e9604a883b341 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110984 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 17:38:26 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3079b7c41e3e9604a883b341 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pretty neat, excellent Randolf! On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > Our own Randolf Arriola got this cool mention (with a description of live > looping) > in the Bangkok Post tech section. (thanks to Gary Hall for finding it). > > http://www.bangkokpost.com/**tech/gadget/247703/technology-**in-harmony > > Congratulations, Randolf! > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf3079b7c41e3e9604a883b341 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pretty neat, excellent Randolf!

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.= com> wrote:
Our own Randolf Arriola got this= cool mention (with a description of live looping)
in the Bangkok Post t= ech section. =A0(thanks to Gary Hall for finding it).

http://www.bangkokpost.com/tech/gadget/24= 7703/technology-in-harmony

Congratulations, =A0Randolf!



--
From Brooklyn To= Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th= =F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF Internatio= nal.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

wo= odandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--20cf3079b7c41e3e9604a883b341-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 20 17:48:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C78E9183466; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 17:48:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 649764129/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.21.23/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.21.23 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoCAKaFAU5YbRUX/2dsb2JhbAAMSJg211OGKwSWPYs2 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,405,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="649764129" Message-ID: <4E2714E3.9070003@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 18:48:19 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: bi-amping References: <1311181793.71282.YahooMailClassic@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1311181793.71282.YahooMailClassic@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110985 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 17:48:18 +0000 (UTC) That's easy to solve, just reverse input and output connections on both vol peds. (In any case, they weren't wired in the conventional way) andy ditch wrestler wrote: > > That is lovingly low-tech, Rick! > > But last time I ran that set-up and had a volume pedal on each line, one > volume pedal would override the other so I couldn't just have one line > but had to have both. > > Maybe there was a matching problem - can't recall if my cables were trs > or not... > > > ted. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 20 22:18:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4985A183466; Wed, 20 Jul 2011 22:18:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 654653.58394.bm@omp1060.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1311200337; bh=On3htmJid64t6Q7caBEgcIBfZdLBdgBe5V2hDgEJ4Z0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=e78BoCDNy/NqQ59dUNaC/rGqs9KmOs4bEtk27XXaZlIlKEpsnRxZ8Wep2otWR+ktO7AMvdHst0BtjSFi7UAS910tFKhDWF0/guVD3+K/rsF1BeoMvnxwrfLrLwhehHgWegX4d7cHlJMj3LZcWm3bQ3GxRpqXPmiDp3iKQOOuWVs= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bO8lwilPEbRxZd9Oy1Woxgde1mdxpEpCpJ+irO/n54RNEyv25Y3sN0OiK3abUoRG9B5N22fWYvMp6jpSi+xYABVWG7Eg/iZq3LxjV2RWzWIHpmbQzLC4tFyjKWCMZa8oGaVel9kh039Bl+GphJdHOULq16ok40pYLEQJH1A0LsQ=; X-YMail-OSG: hFNJvv0VM1nrCx3lplCCtYANKJytEDvGyN7EQxHlR6eWIdh ClZQDJRrzLrOyMn_dmNrsfIo_TZj_chcOkeeKvxhhuTIAklAulHJBeLzFJIe QfC90KzYmezZyApQK98J3mdNLO4hAIlGgFLuEa0zqvqfbD3j5aRlI_klOXr1 Xt.XZF83hAGJsIDzTmjrt10nfPVa8OOgrQZb6qhDNVxrqQTT5BoRPqp3iWtA jn8dtK_lzlhu_eYHYzEuXtB.35ZyJ4zu3Gt6om8uJYgE5YL5XWLaPQdWtZR9 dvcTLk9gApbwXACCDkjGjwXResn4KENbujWYfvJgjLG3d5KCdjYop4va5pro .LTIM5mOuXLsnHLqu1brJztk_7eTFAm_FR6c6DoLUEYITVxqwdOMSX30pWad B5U1thK5Pq_7hramimMp8sMGBXCD1JJqEiSXxZxRLIPtrxlmgTGI8l9wmIyJ uLfBw6Ks.H3QhFDjWHh5R9qmCHKwxwsVptmy73mLaStodyYLwFwoWfXi7y9I Gp.eyAOMSkCbYyXf371yYjukF8YQpsK5Ced9Y09SU8YYA8COCum0KAliNmFl KXCglpyww8XMwV1UvnAdfmTBTIqKU1Usjp9HH_0sEdEuVMnvMV5_NLzc.JtH hetocGARjzeY_D37hYeRuFTo1Iw_BsyHdOgnYK6XMt0psVT.FW3zz3LA92MM zgJa18ScWVvI- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.112.310352 Message-ID: <1311200337.41891.YahooMailClassic@web113204.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 15:18:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Darren Michaels Subject: Short Boomerang III Review To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <1311181793.71282.YahooMailClassic@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1335451615-1311200337=:41891" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110986 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 22:18:59 +0000 (UTC) --0-1335451615-1311200337=:41891 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Here's a short review of the 'Rang III I did for Bass Players United website. It's mostly a short synopsis of what it can do. http://melodyvalley.ca/bassplayersunited/2011/07/gear-review-boomerang-iii-phrase-sampler/ Thanks in advance for reading! Darren Michaels http://www.darrenmichaelsbass.com/ http://darrenmichaels.bandcamp.com/ --0-1335451615-1311200337=:41891 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Here's a short review of the 'Rang III I did for Bass Players United website. It's mostly a short synopsis of what it can do.
http://melodyvalley.ca/bassplayersunited/2011/07/gear-review-boomerang-iii-phrase-sampler/
Thanks in advance for reading!

Darren Michaels
http://www.darrenmichaelsbass.com/
http://darrenmichaels.bandcamp.com/

--0-1335451615-1311200337=:41891-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 21 00:12:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D8C7183474; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 00:12:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Fm3kHPsu/fcOPO3pxLqLjelSYtOX+rDxV9U6tlk3J/M=; b=GHWXPdZ+Z7/HyY3GOZJPucOOePyDEwQzepRF4tRA6ALev8B0s3i0MI/YUbgQvd1Dpn 2MK/dHYf+vhzQoew0L2zrbrTaraycSbexcpKFIB+D7KzrwVGAssJh/r6CESxL1cPmQgP 1sY4J27mjAJpZEjJEMFgTWRxyJYfyHhP9YMmw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1311200337.41891.YahooMailClassic@web113204.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1311181793.71282.YahooMailClassic@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1311200337.41891.YahooMailClassic@web113204.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 17:12:45 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Short Boomerang III Review From: Alexandre Klinke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174764b457c91c04a88935ab Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110987 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 00:12:47 +0000 (UTC) --0015174764b457c91c04a88935ab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Nice review, thanks for posting. I've been thinking about getting the boomerang as an alternative to using my fcb1010/laptop rig. It does sound like a cool piece of equipment. Cheers, Alex www.alexandreklinke.com On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Darren Michaels wrote: > Here's a short review of the 'Rang III I did for Bass Players United > website. It's mostly a short synopsis of what it can do. > > http://melodyvalley.ca/bassplayersunited/2011/07/gear-review-boomerang-iii-phrase-sampler > / > Thanks in advance for reading! > > Darren Michaels > http://www.darrenmichaelsbass.com/ > http://darrenmichaels.bandcamp.com/ > > --0015174764b457c91c04a88935ab Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nice review, thanks for posting. I've been thinking about getting the b= oomerang as an alternative to using my fcb1010/laptop rig. It does sound li= ke a cool piece of equipment.
Cheers,
Alex

www.alexandreklinke.com=

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Darren = Michaels <mil= kdudbass@yahoo.com> wrote:
Here'= s a short review of the 'Rang III I did for Bass Players United website= . It's mostly a short synopsis of what it can do.
http://melodyvalley.ca/basspl= ayersunited/2011/07/gear-review-boomerang-iii-phrase-sampler/
T= hanks in advance for reading!

Darren Michaels
http://www.darrenmichaelsbass.com/=
http:= //darrenmichaels.bandcamp.com/


--0015174764b457c91c04a88935ab-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 21 01:15:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18FB7183464; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 01:15:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 507505.43778.bm@omp1042.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1311210901; bh=OLy85J8nkMNd9ovJVqEXIpLKmhSL8yWixU5Ll391H9U=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=H7Gvm3xYfAjx5r4nfXdVhZ2j8fCPE7R0iVUR2ie+hMScAUq+o0J6wvo8d86nQy2qbJqW+kZyWiVNARAAO6jUIzfTdqWYLEA7Bkmq+UZUwlabBCRj993UFIl8mPMbfZipCfLgkzpZ7VCkBuZQmhujvD+Gf5v2b9RgTo3wMOkDVgU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PjCfflvVUzS+4aDm1b/DiWivYVKHdJ8rjhlIk3VX0ngoQdf01Br5LptLhKYUDigN2ydUyTI9Sxo+NAcFYTOA7WTRozkDdU7Er65t5vY5AUxTpkpBElHw5Xsrj43uc4VMys2Of4300xq3tLDp6oBgrl14cl9Xb+V5+79ESSm2oDs=; X-YMail-OSG: .jjzEpoVM1n2jCa_Eat_tEqiLcSLWpCvmjbhM6Nlz2P2Cdo anchFVf3avWf0OFITPmjRliEfhcTPHvhcn50.leovSlAju5dff0QMLGZR4rG wEZhrobSOG8vSYgm09OKDSWjL8QmAEMJtUZ5NS5y.g6SUM8uPsJQfPwCRb_7 mBvP_PPiEnu_vuEH0E.zUkD6U3Z3jSbnV1o_ijIgrazOXy6dFC4zEeHOkHAe j6Zb1o5GTd1KhqjXf9QA8sBs3gjCQ8BMh0GWZ3y4n0qQoL4_rD5X_ZqO88_y _C6LfIc1z6dN9doV9HIybQmZf.1xRA6Nq62Ev6jPY1DVfdtshiERZBuTnnHC qtih7126ZuJWq5YDwbgUgB6N7OpSLJMrxveYF7Nh2FbbgQr5ksbpwQZLZy_s ruAd_ApOHFFw1qqMKQOSch_iZffE4n5yhn7J6I0f2UywdS4ALAwJYsERaTgk shRaTpfFcKRrcrr3iZK_41Bu_km.uoCEurHzl.Z4HzUSg8sL3fd4NIR0UNlx qhYIk0x1sQG7OhGRu3sDTtiNoQn2gU75lUMGge.7zKEmksfd1og3CduwBKZC pUSVZ_yemi0EGwHriBdp7_J0Ju_9180bx2FNZap31N128PgBepJ5bKUEIOcg M4J_aGhFc4EB4i3fTeDCF0ia2aUfX.8bgUxr7SPr8JjnQJixghxJ4jTjD8qg Midvm5ZXEeMtIhk1tnU0EC5aYvh6trkawRgx_w0BKv4EIsAG_WZyd7aoUIQQ ._ERAVc9lwDfUF9ISIZk- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.112.310352 Message-ID: <1311210901.49073.YahooMailClassic@web113204.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 18:15:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Darren Michaels Subject: Re: Short Boomerang III Review To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-635793648-1311210901=:49073" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110988 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 01:15:03 +0000 (UTC) --0-635793648-1311210901=:49073 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks for reading. I've been using the 'Rang for a about a year now. So far, it's been my favorite hardware looper. Sounds great and friggin' easy to use, too. Darren Michaels http://www.darrenmichaelsbass.com/ http://darrenmichaels.bandcamp.com/ --- On Wed, 7/20/11, Alexandre Klinke wrote: From: Alexandre Klinke Subject: Re: Short Boomerang III Review To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wednesday, July 20, 2011, 8:12 PM Nice review, thanks for posting. I've been thinking about getting the boomerang as an alternative to using my fcb1010/laptop rig. It does sound like a cool piece of equipment.Cheers,Alex www.alexandreklinke.com On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Darren Michaels wrote: Here's a short review of the 'Rang III I did for Bass Players United website. It's mostly a short synopsis of what it can do. http://melodyvalley.ca/bassplayersunited/2011/07/gear-review-boomerang-iii-phrase-sampler/ Thanks in advance for reading! Darren Michaels http://www.darrenmichaelsbass.com/ http://darrenmichaels.bandcamp.com/ --0-635793648-1311210901=:49073 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Thanks for reading. I've been using the 'Rang for a about a year now. So far, it's been my favorite hardware looper. Sounds great and friggin' easy to use, too.
Darren Michaels
http://www.darrenmichaelsbass.com/
http://darrenmichaels.bandcamp.com/



--- On Wed, 7/20/11, Alexandre Klinke <alexandre.klinke@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Alexandre Klinke <alexandre.klinke@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Short Boomerang III Review
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Wednesday, July 20, 2011, 8:12 PM

Nice review, thanks for posting. I've been thinking about getting the boomerang as an alternative to using my fcb1010/laptop rig. It does sound like a cool piece of equipment.
Cheers,
Alex

www.alexandreklinke.com

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Darren Michaels <milkdudbass@yahoo.com> wrote:
Here's a short review of the 'Rang III I did for Bass Players United website. It's mostly a short synopsis of what it can do.
http://melodyvalley.ca/bassplayersunited/2011/07/gear-review-boomerang-iii-phrase-sampler/
Thanks in advance for reading!

Darren Michaels
http://www.darrenmichaelsbass.com/
http://darrenmichaels.bandcamp.com/


--0-635793648-1311210901=:49073-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 21 04:19:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF20F183465; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 04:19:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 487 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 04:19:03 UTC Message-ID: From: "Brian Carabee" To: References: <1311210901.49073.YahooMailClassic@web113204.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Short Boomerang III Review Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 00:10:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110989 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 04:19:03 +0000 (UTC) I second that emotion... What I love is the flat switches which allow for precision and are easy on the feet. Plus it is very forgiving with input levels, exactly the opposite of previous generations. What kills me is the limited implementation of features (the fact that the two bonus buttons can only be assigned 4 functions out of 11 or so). I would have much rather had a larger footprint with more footswitches. The upcoming sidecar should take care of my concern, but I would sure rather have it all in one unit and I would sure rather have it TODAY. That's my one and only beef about the 'Rang. Well, that and the fact that you can't save loops to a card. I would highly recommend the unit to anyone who feels that the features are what they need. The quality is absolutely superb. Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren Michaels To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:15 PM Subject: Re: Short Boomerang III Review Thanks for reading. I've been using the 'Rang for a about a year now. So far, it's been my favorite hardware looper. Sounds great and friggin' easy to use, too. Darren Michaels From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 21 10:55:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F112183466; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:55:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E28058C.9020807@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 03:55:08 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ditch wrestler CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: OT: bi-amping References: <1311181793.71282.YahooMailClassic@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1311181793.71282.YahooMailClassic@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-FIiM.A.Pe.RWAKOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110990 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:55:13 +0000 (UTC) For what it's worth, I bought a very beautiful new pedal by DwarfCraft called the LOOP MANGLER http://www.geargasstore.com/products/dwarfcraft-devices-loop-mangler-effects-loop-pedal that has a joy stick in the middle that matches the volumes of two loops of effects. It's great because you can completely control the mixing of two loops in real time. I love it, but it ends up sending out a mono signal. This might work for you, but you just have to figure out your gain structure (as you do with all effects chains, anyway. Good luck, Ditch. Rick On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, ditch wrestler wrote: > That is lovingly low-tech, Rick! > But last time I ran that set-up and had a volume pedal on each line, > one volume pedal would override the other so I couldn't just have one > line but had to have both. > Maybe there was a matching problem - can't recall if my cables were > trs or not... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 21 13:58:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD3DA183462; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 13:58:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:content-type:x-mailer:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=7VOzFK/IuVTqkC3ZMuHaARXF4MR8zvn7eKbgHTx/8Z8=; b=DgQYhcluPkRjmlpYL7Skbgf3gs5gsgC1jfoA2WOLTmBqwpSpY0C+HJkLq33nJHp1dU HuGGiD7kFukx4MxXvbFerTJlGMfpJ0pq7tXb9KB2j16Dfxb8h0RM8KenO4+CKdlIx8d7 NS8FehYIkH0ZTVpGSIRHtyVyghWdXjpS88vEo= Subject: Midwest Monthly Looping Gig From: Jeff Evans Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPad Mail (8J2) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 08:59:08 -0500 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPad Mail 8J2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110991 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 13:58:38 +0000 (UTC) I'd like to gauge interest in a monthly looping night in Chicago. The venue w= ould be the back room of Haymarket Pub and Brewery in Chicago (so if you're a= lso an enthusiast of excellent craft beer, that'll be a bonus for you). The= evenings that are available are Sun - Wed Are there any loopers in the midwest interested in that kind of thing? Cheers,=20 Jeff Sent from my iPad= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 21 14:36:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D22B3183460; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 14:36:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 822923.78442.bm@omp1007.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1311258981; bh=9HcALOHRfWPVKkWB8PBjDovFqOH8SpeNU15p2EmXbtI=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cDvGeLZksmngNiB/DpW7zAEbRxgqJBV95arONNGagbyKEGyCnDoGgzD10cTtFQWCfZ4ohHewbsbHWdBwMtcQoduFyz4ESWqN02TwnaCgCeRQtVh4Y70ih7pyuMUzQW15KKnqXryrM7wrne4PI+WdssMFf44oDzaYnjH/5vFdDG8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kvIHGFnlk1xn1PcSjMZEzESSdsiqeZVkBlC5Blr1rzFo638bIu46wOYkdXYtn6MUq/oLT6bguslgcQ++rogNAvTHhzENg/4bbDxWVUknLoUzhFIuf+TfMgWKQJMaaaKAmfAP2F7ber5URVCZhE6UqfUtTLK4ED3KTa3UlMfa2gc=; X-YMail-OSG: jYp3Zu4VM1mTewBOvERo0_Hb_vKKHSV0WSfEqOeMuwb3nB6 9zh8cw2HmHWEmACFpq.f8MQxudvH0S0sXcdupbADLM4GMarY_ytame2T0F58 u.VutOznWVft25_PA0Q6OVcDfJZT75mVKS2vS18ORllYQSl_S44.__boO5D2 VVeuiGYamsAOIKIe.rOKpw1J06qHxrAFqFWwYgosiEyQjabQ3XQeQ4x4hCgQ AJ8un_rp2D0TEE1eNReqPzXYLxIQUyAzqCl5tIHsHBe6druigd_3zebvi7qC Xt7_rZjehkgfaZF7mmNn3JrhTSxM6DfNIp0k6ieT2D2kPn689_FHLyY5moPR LpbV9h6Qq1_cTDug.vQZ9McXqrKM1RReY1ZTo.LvbMqizVOxTkjLUQOucwoS 8LmQ8nr7MkVR_bLEg.Nh_5OlFWtYbqckaeFJbwUqEngTf3CuyEjjpIA04MO0 H9AQtQRZ4nmD2h69.hqfqLyGWL0Zrn0Sp5ywbZFnoEbto7YZHD7mRCqAtg8x KeG58B8GKy18r0Dzca9yXXSVhwcNIbpHhs8Ysvy0AMZrKqXXyUOEmT.3H5RU RkjR1o38.xJIRPDCP5z1UhPAdIH13hvbeJjz4OdZ9Y_cydq4XMsRIuUSKdNW DVNg0qn9qQTclPGZy4mXT3IIkEtmv89Y.lRRheNc5dNsia0RGfaLapWcPFdM rmINrRWezmjR_jhGrNcUrF93w9Uc1_EPrwsd6UJ3h5eMupyb1S8q1s46VRdZ uGxuJBxZZFedZ3RA- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.112.310352 Message-ID: <1311258981.76578.YahooMailClassic@web112107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 07:36:21 -0700 (PDT) From: K D Patten Subject: Re: Midwest Monthly Looping Gig To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2010214483-1311258981=:76578" Resent-Message-ID: <-Fj8sC.A.3_C.nlDKOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110992 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 14:36:23 +0000 (UTC) --0-2010214483-1311258981=:76578 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I may possibly be interested........just depends on cash flow....I'm 5 and = 1 half hours away Kyle Dean Patten=20 P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA=A0 50131 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=20 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=3DKyle+Dean+Patten+ =A0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dobgm3kTi5bs =A0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Da9g93s0q3uc=20 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten =20 http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten=20 http://www.linkedin.com/in/kyledeanpatten=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --- On Thu, 7/21/11, Jeff Evans wrote: From: Jeff Evans Subject: Midwest Monthly Looping Gig To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Thursday, July 21, 2011, 8:59 AM I'd like to gauge interest in a monthly looping night in Chicago. The venue= would be the back room of Haymarket Pub and Brewery in Chicago (so if you'= re also an enthusiast of excellent craft beer, that'll be a bonus=A0 for yo= u). The evenings that are available are Sun - Wed Are there any loopers in the midwest interested in that kind of thing? Cheers,=20 Jeff Sent from my iPad --0-2010214483-1311258981=:76578 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --0-2010214483-1311258981=:76578-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 21 15:01:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B83F9183461; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:01:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2598 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:01:46 UTC Message-ID: <4E28356D.2060203@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:19:25 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight Subject: New Mac Mini with i5/7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110993 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:01:47 +0000 (UTC) So, Apple just released not only an updated lappie, but also, finally, after much rumour, an updated Mini. Comes with core i5 or i7, up to 8GB ram, 500GB drive or 256GB SSD, Radeon 6630 graphics, and the usual I/O, like FW800. A friend of mine, whom among other things builds media centers, says i5/i7 in real life never goes past 45watts no matter what work he puts them, incl. graphics/video rendering, so this should be nice for a home/project studio. I'm seriously concidering selling off two lappies and shop the Mini with the SSD and at least 4GB ram. I'd likely house my audio on an external FW drive. Sharing the drive and a Fireface400 on the FW800 may be an issue to resolve.. -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 21 16:46:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E0D56183462; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:46:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BB0dungQDEHoNm7ctWpa7c/JvohJH8vXX5IgFE8maV8=; b=J6ukcmQ9y7fS7HFntSKVaSo5yPxQGJiTqfb3cbhQ4wiGi+9X4+MM6/tVIPUlW6tZF1 jx/cMbX31fTKRfj8GyKmqL45rNHqxWQ0w2ujWb4kE6iXlCyaa8PVNO68R5T0YzP+A5ZV LMA5wcHLhTHMMPixnDM33qSLQf+CnWF4blaRE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E28356D.2060203@post.cybercity.dk> References: <4E28356D.2060203@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 18:46:20 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Mac Mini with i5/7 From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110994 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:46:21 +0000 (UTC) you got me interested Van ill check that out! and what about a screen? what would you hook up that is smaller than the integrated screen on the mini laptops? On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:19 PM, van Sinn wrote= : > So, Apple just released not only an updated lappie, but also, finally, af= ter > much rumour, an updated Mini. > Comes with core i5 or i7, up to 8GB ram, 500GB drive or 256GB SSD, Radeon > 6630 graphics, and the usual I/O, like FW800. > > A friend of mine, whom among other things builds media centers, says i5/i= 7 > in real life never goes past 45watts no matter what work he puts them, in= cl. > graphics/video rendering, so this should be nice for a home/project studi= o. > > I'm seriously concidering selling off two lappies and shop the Mini with = the > SSD and at least 4GB ram. =A0I'd likely house my audio on an external FW > drive. > Sharing the drive and a Fireface400 on the FW800 may be an issue to > resolve.. > > -- > rgds, > van Sinn > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 21 17:11:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D10E7183464; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:11:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=l+j0VfzOzgCtMJhXbUN03+e8p1l1hmeLuugfR2jzru0=; b=lqmRzEXP+fqAa9u5lXHouDwINI1uVqPl1kkMIRPIazX7lJj8TuW27QFl+NW/VR9cDv 6ghkYUfh8mdZYtXtajohbcSARsP/ayUpaueuNK39LO9lzVRDviR6xgwqHPoQXV/rp2Jv xkDBQjvulIFBbiIlIzcTz2s5P0e8gAxZ3Q3Z8= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1244.3) Subject: Re: New Mac Mini with i5/7 From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 13:11:45 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4E28356D.2060203@post.cybercity.dk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1244.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110995 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:11:46 +0000 (UTC) Th mac mini 'server version' even has the quad core i7 and two hard = drives. Could be an incredible recording machine. >=20 > On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:19 PM, van Sinn = wrote: >> So, Apple just released not only an updated lappie, but also, = finally, after >> much rumour, an updated Mini. >> Comes with core i5 or i7, up to 8GB ram, 500GB drive or 256GB SSD, = Radeon >> 6630 graphics, and the usual I/O, like FW800. >>=20 >> A friend of mine, whom among other things builds media centers, says = i5/i7 >> in real life never goes past 45watts no matter what work he puts = them, incl. >> graphics/video rendering, so this should be nice for a home/project = studio. >>=20 >> I'm seriously concidering selling off two lappies and shop the Mini = with the >> SSD and at least 4GB ram. I'd likely house my audio on an external = FW >> drive. >> Sharing the drive and a Fireface400 on the FW800 may be an issue to >> resolve.. >>=20 >> -- >> rgds, >> van Sinn >>=20 >>=20 -------------------- Todd Matthews toddbass.com twitter: gtodd876 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 21 17:35:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2528D183462; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:35:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-07-21_06:2011-07-21,2011-07-21,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1107210150 Subject: Re: New Mac Mini with i5/7 From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:35:25 -0700 Message-id: <6EC1C533-1540-407E-8607-82EFF2D57222@mac.com> References: <4E28356D.2060203@post.cybercity.dk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110996 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:35:29 +0000 (UTC) Its an amazing machine, the new Mini. But, I personally could never stomach a primary audio box that does not support cards. I need my UAD cards at a minimum. D On Jul 21, 2011, at 10:11 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: > Th mac mini 'server version' even has the quad core i7 and two hard drives. Could be an incredible recording machine. > >> >> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:19 PM, van Sinn wrote: >>> So, Apple just released not only an updated lappie, but also, finally, after >>> much rumour, an updated Mini. >>> Comes with core i5 or i7, up to 8GB ram, 500GB drive or 256GB SSD, Radeon >>> 6630 graphics, and the usual I/O, like FW800. >>> >>> A friend of mine, whom among other things builds media centers, says i5/i7 >>> in real life never goes past 45watts no matter what work he puts them, incl. >>> graphics/video rendering, so this should be nice for a home/project studio. >>> >>> I'm seriously concidering selling off two lappies and shop the Mini with the >>> SSD and at least 4GB ram. I'd likely house my audio on an external FW >>> drive. >>> Sharing the drive and a Fireface400 on the FW800 may be an issue to >>> resolve.. >>> >>> -- >>> rgds, >>> van Sinn >>> >>> > > -------------------- > Todd Matthews > toddbass.com > twitter: gtodd876 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 21 17:44:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 16A3F18345F; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:44:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Kvg4ZyssxZ4SxkLJ7Zdda0IpEaif9WpREvSvtpMGxZQ=; b=GGQWPzcxxJKxzPWkGqJlWHCKFLb/2s7Pz/4r4IsMxR6L/bAoc4ONVvet3I8YAGEtte hbQOtDV+BeA3Csm8DQstEZiKmI9xq0Wt8CyXXUEqNur3znZeCWA5rGzgbIqcCC1HmnPP fapcrEHXOg77beWbpxZImeXYg8f7DRmNgl9pg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4E28356D.2060203@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 19:44:51 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Mac Mini with i5/7 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <7v0IS.A.VrF.UWGKOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110997 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:44:52 +0000 (UTC) My live concert laptop has the two core i7 and although the CPU speed in MHz isn't that much higher this processor for me is the final boost that takes me over the CPU barrier for live performing. For studio work it is even more bang for the buck if you go for the four core model - given you are running recording production software that can take advantage of that. I do studio productions in the MBP anyway, I just think the two cores are enough for the work I usually get called for. Only the two core MBP is available with such a small screen as 13" so for me it was a no-brainer. Funny that technology now has reached such an advanced stage that you don't look only at the processing powers when shopping a computer! Ew... it really wasn't fun back when an overclocked Intel Celeron was the way to go :-) Next phase in tech I'm looking forward to is a version of Bidule that can run multi processor/core code with a clean audio fidelity. Can't be far away now... On the i7 MBP I'm running the full live shebang on just one core because it sounds best that way. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:19 PM, van Sinn wrote: >>> So, Apple just released not only an updated lappie, but also, finally, after >>> much rumour, an updated Mini. >>> Comes with core i5 or i7, up to 8GB ram, 500GB drive or 256GB SSD, Radeon >>> 6630 graphics, and the usual I/O, like FW800. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 21 17:45:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3FF0E183464; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:45:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 441 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:45:18 UTC Message-ID: <20110721110334.38x9vy2s08g8gw00@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 11:03:34 -0500 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Daniel Thomas Subject: Re: New Mac Mini with i5/7 References: <4E28356D.2060203@post.cybercity.dk> <6EC1C533-1540-407E-8607-82EFF2D57222@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <6EC1C533-1540-407E-8607-82EFF2D57222@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110998 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:45:19 +0000 (UTC) Free your UAD plugins from the box! :) http://www.uaudio.com/uad-plug-ins/uad-2-quad/uad-2-satellite-quad.html Quoting Daniel Thomas : > Its an amazing machine, the new Mini. But, I personally could never =20 > stomach a primary audio box that does not support cards. I need =20 > my UAD cards at a minimum. > > D > On Jul 21, 2011, at 10:11 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: > >> Th mac mini 'server version' even has the quad core i7 and two hard =20 >> drives. Could be an incredible recording machine. >> >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:19 PM, van Sinn =20 >>> wrote: >>>> So, Apple just released not only an updated lappie, but also, =20 >>>> finally, after >>>> much rumour, an updated Mini. >>>> Comes with core i5 or i7, up to 8GB ram, 500GB drive or 256GB SSD, Rade= on >>>> 6630 graphics, and the usual I/O, like FW800. >>>> >>>> A friend of mine, whom among other things builds media centers, says i5= /i7 >>>> in real life never goes past 45watts no matter what work he puts =20 >>>> them, incl. >>>> graphics/video rendering, so this should be nice for a =20 >>>> home/project studio. >>>> >>>> I'm seriously concidering selling off two lappies and shop the =20 >>>> Mini with the >>>> SSD and at least 4GB ram. I'd likely house my audio on an external FW >>>> drive. >>>> Sharing the drive and a Fireface400 on the FW800 may be an issue to >>>> resolve.. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> rgds, >>>> van Sinn >>>> >>>> >> >> -------------------- >> Todd Matthews >> toddbass.com >> twitter: gtodd876 >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 21 17:49:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CAE1C183463; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:49:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-07-21_06:2011-07-21,2011-07-21,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=4 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1107210153 Subject: Re: New Mac Mini with i5/7 From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: <20110721110334.38x9vy2s08g8gw00@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:49:01 -0700 Message-id: <19D19331-6675-4BC4-B2C5-34AAC003475A@mac.com> References: <4E28356D.2060203@post.cybercity.dk> <6EC1C533-1540-407E-8607-82EFF2D57222@mac.com> <20110721110334.38x9vy2s08g8gw00@webmail.musetrap.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/110999 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:49:26 +0000 (UTC) > Free your UAD plugins from the box! :) > > http://www.uaudio.com/uad-plug-ins/uad-2-quad/uad-2-satellite-quad.html Well, yes there is that, but if you have a battery of good cards that work.. why incur the expense? I have considered getting one of these satellites for my MBPRo to use in live looping performance but-- I don't really need high end models of massenburg, SSL, manley, when performing through a PA system. Daniel On Jul 21, 2011, at 9:03 AM, cpr@musetrap.com wrote: > Free your UAD plugins from the box! :) > > http://www.uaudio.com/uad-plug-ins/uad-2-quad/uad-2-satellite-quad.html > > Quoting Daniel Thomas : > >> Its an amazing machine, the new Mini. But, I personally could never stomach a primary audio box that does not support cards. I need my UAD cards at a minimum. >> >> D >> On Jul 21, 2011, at 10:11 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: >> >>> Th mac mini 'server version' even has the quad core i7 and two hard drives. Could be an incredible recording machine. >>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:19 PM, van Sinn wrote: >>>>> So, Apple just released not only an updated lappie, but also, finally, after >>>>> much rumour, an updated Mini. >>>>> Comes with core i5 or i7, up to 8GB ram, 500GB drive or 256GB SSD, Radeon >>>>> 6630 graphics, and the usual I/O, like FW800. >>>>> >>>>> A friend of mine, whom among other things builds media centers, says i5/i7 >>>>> in real life never goes past 45watts no matter what work he puts them, incl. >>>>> graphics/video rendering, so this should be nice for a home/project studio. >>>>> >>>>> I'm seriously concidering selling off two lappies and shop the Mini with the >>>>> SSD and at least 4GB ram. I'd likely house my audio on an external FW >>>>> drive. >>>>> Sharing the drive and a Fireface400 on the FW800 may be an issue to >>>>> resolve.. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> rgds, >>>>> van Sinn >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> -------------------- >>> Todd Matthews >>> toddbass.com >>> twitter: gtodd876 >>> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 21 18:35:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 49A68183461; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 18:35:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: New Mac Mini with i5/7 From: Phil Clevenger In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 11:35:17 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <46474958-FD89-4F33-A2D8-657C67E9698C@gmail.com> References: <4E28356D.2060203@post.cybercity.dk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111000 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 18:35:23 +0000 (UTC) Was not aware that the word "shebang" was common parlance in Sweden ! On Jul 21, 2011, at 10:44 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > My live concert laptop has the two core i7 and although the CPU speed > in MHz isn't that much higher this processor for me is the final boost > that takes me over the CPU barrier for live performing. For studio > work it is even more bang for the buck if you go for the four core > model - given you are running recording production software that can > take advantage of that. >=20 > I do studio productions in the MBP anyway, I just think the two cores > are enough for the work I usually get called for. Only the two core > MBP is available with such a small screen as 13" so for me it was a > no-brainer. Funny that technology now has reached such an advanced > stage that you don't look only at the processing powers when shopping > a computer! Ew... it really wasn't fun back when an overclocked Intel > Celeron was the way to go :-) >=20 > Next phase in tech I'm looking forward to is a version of Bidule that > can run multi processor/core code with a clean audio fidelity. Can't > be far away now... On the i7 MBP I'm running the full live shebang on > just one core because it sounds best that way. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Todd Matthews = wrote: >>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:19 PM, van Sinn = wrote: >>>> So, Apple just released not only an updated lappie, but also, = finally, after >>>> much rumour, an updated Mini. >>>> Comes with core i5 or i7, up to 8GB ram, 500GB drive or 256GB SSD, = Radeon >>>> 6630 graphics, and the usual I/O, like FW800. >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 21 18:44:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5B2E183462; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 18:44:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=bW7zZhrjDdpg+o8ZzlRJR0E7PEgtcJb3TVviMwILi3g=; b=Vb9rWvCj7m7d/VV1azpxIJn/gt0mfCRpKfmD0OuY1dtO1FptEiLIwmcrrWE6x1mvdn gnEgCURhRIQisKZZ8ymYMahaLwaHWFCuiU00gKfdrB/vHFUmnE+yzLVfxt4Tz+BwwtfX n+Q129aYYuDDOkAv5oKgCjIyvrKcgiRK4I2Q8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <46474958-FD89-4F33-A2D8-657C67E9698C@gmail.com> References: <4E28356D.2060203@post.cybercity.dk> <46474958-FD89-4F33-A2D8-657C67E9698C@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:44:44 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Mac Mini with i5/7 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111001 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 18:44:45 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Phil Clevenger wrote: > Was not aware that the word "shebang" was common parlance in Sweden ! It is. Living with instant internet access on a peninsula hosting only eight million people your brain grows kind of linguistic mash-up ;-) Swedes these days just throw in English words here and there while speaking Swedish and even our newscasts use English phrasing but with Swedish words. It's a funny time! I'm desperately fighting to learn some decent French but even the French these days want to practice their English when you visit their country. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 21 19:53:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C00A2183460; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 19:53:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZsrKw6MYdXC2G8ausbuSuhmWrxtlTv+gPKVj0hDzQAI=; b=cf8d6S92AKEgLOBjiKOpu2kUHpl44QESVKO0xtKVSpfEsMe78qp1zQjOXAbW+SgYqM uhqjPj2XuJm5ZHvWFpV+8W450oSydackEGgiEUWEv+dxUOGLKWtXqbrp7evXt4+8bDE3 VEz2mtsuVVnhT6WgtRik/SDLkD9QZywk86zDc= Message-ID: <4E288399.1000209@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 21:52:57 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Looper's Delight Mailing List Subject: Firenze 2011 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5PudO.A.1vH.kOIKOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111002 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 19:53:08 +0000 (UTC) Ok, you asked for it, you get it. (as they say: video, or it didn't happen) Blog article, including photos and video! http://moinsound.wordpress.com/2011/07/21/nerdville-and-more-the-firenze-2011-live-looping-festival/ Yours, Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 21 20:48:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B33E5183462; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:48:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=26hPwUYTzdm7czIdGxeNQj1KgH61XKnK23mxMQHSotE=; b=uxABhnR+TsI6+FpehK9ik6FeplId5MY7mQ/kGSJPtC3j5Qkfv9ebHJfzO6Gt24tn4y E2J3sdkpWnElRTQyTIG/aYZP9jCJ/xmRnGMDykE489Igf3PdfrIorGMSND6ZE5cBNtoS RaScPQ2ozL6UyrbYAKYYRrwPXGbYxWgeXKGjw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E288399.1000209@googlemail.com> References: <4E288399.1000209@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 22:48:05 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Firenze 2011 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111003 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:48:06 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Blog article, including photos and video! > http://moinsound.wordpress.com/2011/07/21/nerdville-and-more-the-firenze-2011-live-looping-festival/ Great write-up! And good music video :-) per boy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 21 20:58:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05685183462; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:58:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E2892FF.5040402@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:58:39 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111004 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:58:47 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on Jürgen Haible. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Holiday In Purgatory." Details are at the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#jul On tonight's show, I will play music by Mark Jenkins who will be performing at the Soundscapes Concert Series on Sunday, July 24, 8 pm at the Nazareth Center for the Arts. http://soundscapes.us Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org/listen on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 21 22:16:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7AE70183461; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 22:16:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=1fagNQBktqkoFe37k/CFcauyWvjlQvN4+0DorM13Nhw=; b=rvDZ7Ivk+4urc0lKOhCzwHe0THvpwOTR2sxQ2nZstWOKET8rIi/N+aQVjClL/A/gb4 fh36fxo+LOAWQLBOlx19FNDUp/9PkRz8AUO6UIb/Hg7a9VNOf04QP9jkZMSX4+fehyTq RBis+mTYuFIkxofEBQBNhf4amKXjZO3QP5Axc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E28356D.2060203@post.cybercity.dk> References: <4E28356D.2060203@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 00:16:40 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Mac Mini with i5/7 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111005 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 22:16:42 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:19 PM, van Sinn wrote: > So, Apple just released not only an updated lappie, but also, finally, after > much rumour, an updated Mini. > Comes with core i5 or i7, up to 8GB ram, 500GB drive or 256GB SSD, Radeon > 6630 graphics, and the usual I/O, like FW800. A short review already up at http://www.macminicolo.net/macmini2011 Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 22 01:01:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 669C9183461; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 01:01:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: Midwest Monthly Looping Gig Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:01:21 -0500 Message-ID: <002e01cc480a$e068f730$a13ae590$@michaelplishka.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AQHUKzqx7G11TPBbNB4fULeK64TnKJTnvxLg X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111006 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 01:01:29 +0000 (UTC) I'm interested. I'm an hour away in good traffic, 3 in bad. Peace, Plish -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Evans [mailto:sazerac.jeff@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 8:59 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Midwest Monthly Looping Gig I'd like to gauge interest in a monthly looping night in Chicago. The venue would be the back room of Haymarket Pub and Brewery in Chicago (so if you're also an enthusiast of excellent craft beer, that'll be a bonus for you). The evenings that are available are Sun - Wed Are there any loopers in the midwest interested in that kind of thing? Cheers, Jeff Sent from my iPad From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 22 03:57:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 951B4183462; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 03:57:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1941 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 03:57:04 UTC X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020204.4E28ED7A.0079,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=g1yQxBn6urlsaTUwI3YZx3Tbrw0dN6Kp/MqkgaK+ScQ= c=1 sm=1 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:17 a=ZXunPeM15O1VzJ2upzMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=NlGj8M1X765BXi8b:21 a=T-V7lEGj8Jzye61y:21 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=7drYKQ0v7Rl2-DUtubMA:9 a=LY2rIpWUXZgvXtQ1mYUA:7 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Clayton Gary Lehmann" To: Subject: LP-2 Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:24:38 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0069_01CC47E4.3713C5A0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcxIHuNA35PtZlVgSxK9r1O74gPBOA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111007 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 03:57:04 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0069_01CC47E4.3713C5A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Like some others here, I have placed a deposit (actually payment in full) for the Looperlative LP-2. I put my money down on 6/10/11, so I am hardly a trailblazer. With the recent posting of the Boomerang III, I am tempted to get that instead. However, Bob doesn't answer emails or phone calls-I got thru to him on the number listed on my credit card invoice, but that number is no good. Have I made a bad mistake? What do I do now? Thanks for any clues here, Gary Lehmann "Gnarly Heman" ------=_NextPart_000_0069_01CC47E4.3713C5A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Like some others here, I have placed a deposit = (actually payment in full) for the Looperlative LP-2.

I put my money down on 6/10/11, so I am hardly a trailblazer.

With the recent posting of the Boomerang III, I am = tempted to get that instead.

However, Bob doesn’t answer emails or phone = calls—I got thru to him on the number listed on my credit card invoice, but that = number is no good.

Have I made a bad = mistake?

What do I do now?

Thanks for any clues = here,

Gary Lehmann

“Gnarly = Heman”

------=_NextPart_000_0069_01CC47E4.3713C5A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 22 04:52:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20A8018345C; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 04:52:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E290213.7010706@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 21:52:35 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight Subject: Re: New Mac Mini with i5/7 References: <4E28356D.2060203@post.cybercity.dk> In-Reply-To: <4E28356D.2060203@post.cybercity.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111008 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 04:52:41 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, van Sinn wrote: > So, Apple just released................ an updated Mini. Any idea of the street price for this puppy? The cool thing about the Minis is that you can easily put together a pretty happening little portable studio inside of a cushioned small suitcase and use it, for gigging, like a laptop. rick walker ps who is ecstatic to have discovered (thanks, Tim Thompson) that is is relatively easy to replace a harddrive in his 4 year old Mac Book Pro with a harddrive that is up to twice as fast as the one Apple put into it and that this whole process takes only 2-3 minutes. This means, I can put a Win XP professional OS on one harddrive and keep my OSX system on the other harddrive and switch them out whenever I gig, as I need to. The new Seagate Harddrive is for sale online for a mere $59!!!!!! I thought I was going to have to go buy a $700 PC laptop and now I may not have to after all. wooooo hoooooo!!!!!!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 22 07:52:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0CEFB183462; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 07:52:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 63259 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 07:52:46 UTC Message-ID: <4E292C9F.4040605@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 09:54:07 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Mac Mini with i5/7 References: <4E28356D.2060203@post.cybercity.dk> <46474958-FD89-4F33-A2D8-657C67E9698C@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111009 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 07:52:46 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Phil Clevenger > wrote: > >>Was not aware that the word "shebang" was common parlance in Sweden ! > > > It is. Living with instant internet access on a peninsula hosting only > eight million people your brain grows kind of linguistic mash-up ;-) > Swedes these days just throw in English words here and there while > speaking Swedish and even our newscasts use English phrasing but with > Swedish words. It's a funny time! I'm desperately fighting to learn > some decent French but even the French these days want to practice > their English when you visit their country. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub It's the same for me, being almost fluent in German, but my friends there prefer English and will answer back this way even if I start in German ;) Trying to learn some French online as a prelude to taking classes.. And I want the whole shebang too, hahaha Danish, like Sweedish, is likewise an international affair. Hämsk bra! -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 22 08:14:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 71462183461; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 08:14:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 640373243/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.177.148/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.177.148 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnENAH8wKU5V0rGU/2dsb2JhbAAMR5gqD8VVjx+DNoMJBJdmi2g X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.67,246,1309734000"; d="scan'208";a="640373243" Message-ID: <4E29314B.2030805@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 09:14:03 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com CC: hqr@cox.net Subject: Re: LP-2 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111010 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 08:14:00 +0000 (UTC) Hi Gary, The guy to contact is Rick Walker, RICKWALKERlooppool.info though I can tell you some of what what he'll say. Bob must be desperate to get the LP2 out by now, I'm sure his available free time is spent with the LP2. (Bob also has a day job and a family to support as well as other commitments, as I understand it there's not that much free time available). If he's hard to contact, that'll be why. It wouldn't be the first time a cutting edge looping device took longer than expected to ship, that's certainly the case with the Boomerang too...it's just they started development earlier and have now released the product. The software developers mantra is "it always takes longer than you think, even if you take into account that it takes longer than you think", and that really applies to looping devices in a big way. The new technology depends not on big companies who can reliably(fairly) hit a release, but on dedicated guys like Bob who care about creating great products for loopers more than they care about profits. all the best andy Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote: > Like some others here, I have placed a deposit (actually payment in > full) for the Looperlative LP-2. > > I put my money down on 6/10/11, so I am hardly a trailblazer. > > With the recent posting of the Boomerang III, I am tempted to get that > instead. > > However, Bob doesn’t answer emails or phone calls—I got thru to him on > the number listed on my credit card invoice, but that number is no good. > > Have I made a bad mistake? > > What do I do now? > > Thanks for any clues here, > > Gary Lehmann > > “Gnarly Heman” > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 22 08:19:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 909B8183463; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 08:19:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=7qoKuQENhRYlcTnRnVzKK5S66t082s2SrZ8+/Y7zkuU=; b=gve3alJWgL7/EdPo98khYgEM9XGfb4Ox1XmckoiWqKcrJpf4NPLlSduqkW6pPF1tuH ym6fsMJIhMzdMHAsUl8m6QszdxzKLxwyEB2HLgP++0Chgruh72CRXBTX6/+EY2g8cPTt ymz60gD/cRCAXtdxQCepFpxCC0dgXOaNhBZPs= Subject: Re: LP-2 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-155608566 From: Phil Clevenger In-Reply-To: <4E29314B.2030805@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 01:19:33 -0700 Cc: hqr@cox.net Message-Id: <0FC32D6E-C2D9-4793-ACB5-2AC61E3E1AC8@gmail.com> References: <4E29314B.2030805@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111011 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 08:19:39 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-155608566 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Looperlative Facebook update from Wednesday 11:00 am: LP2 production is held up until back ordered parts arrive. Everything is = on order. And from May 30: I'm ordering production LP2 electronics today. Which means I should have = assembled units starting in about 2 weeks. It will take me several weeks = to ship all of the orders. Bob Sounds like he's fairly close :) Phil On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:14 AM, andy butler wrote: > Hi Gary, >=20 > The guy to contact is Rick Walker, > RICKWALKERlooppool.info > though I can tell you some of what what he'll say. > Bob must be desperate to get the LP2 out by now, I'm sure > his available free time is spent with the LP2. > (Bob also has a day job and a family to support as well as other = commitments, as I understand it there's not that much free time = available). > If he's hard to contact, that'll be why.=20 > It wouldn't be the first time a cutting edge looping device > took longer than expected to ship, that's certainly the case > with the Boomerang too...it's just they started development > earlier and have now released the product. > The software developers mantra is "it always takes longer than you = think, even > if you take into account that it takes longer than you think", > and that really applies to looping devices in a big way. >=20 > The new technology depends not on big companies who can > reliably(fairly) hit a release, but on dedicated guys > like Bob who care about creating great products for loopers > more than they care about profits. >=20 >=20 >=20 > all the best > andy >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote: >> Like some others here, I have placed a deposit (actually payment in = full) for the Looperlative LP-2. >> I put my money down on 6/10/11, so I am hardly a trailblazer. >> With the recent posting of the Boomerang III, I am tempted to get = that instead. >> However, Bob doesn=92t answer emails or phone calls=97I got thru to = him on the number listed on my credit card invoice, but that number is = no good. >> Have I made a bad mistake? >> What do I do now? >> Thanks for any clues here, >> Gary Lehmann >> =93Gnarly Heman=94 >=20 --Apple-Mail-1-155608566 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252
And from May 30:
I'm ordering production LP2 electronics today. Which means I should have=20 assembled units starting in about 2 weeks. It will take me several weeks to ship all of the orders. Bob
Sounds like he's fairly close :)

Phil


= On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:14 AM, andy butler wrote:

Hi = Gary,

The guy to contact is Rick = Walker,
RICKWALKER<at>looppool.info
though I can tell you = some of what what he'll say.
Bob must be desperate to get the LP2 out = by now, I'm sure
his available free time is spent with the = LP2.
(Bob also has a day job and a family to support as well  as = other commitments, as I understand it there's not  that much free = time available).
If he's hard to contact, that'll be why.
It = wouldn't be the first time a cutting edge looping device
took longer = than expected to ship, that's certainly the case
with the Boomerang = too...it's just they started development
earlier and have now = released the product.
The software developers mantra is "it always = takes longer than you think, even
if you take into account that it = takes longer than you think",
and that really applies to looping = devices in a big way.

The new technology depends not on big = companies who can
reliably(fairly) hit a release, but on dedicated = guys
like Bob who care about creating great products for = loopers
more than they care about profits.



all the = best
andy









Clayton Gary Lehmann = wrote:
Like some others here, I have placed = a deposit (actually payment in full) for the Looperlative = LP-2.
I put my money down on = 6/10/11, so I am hardly a trailblazer.
With the recent posting of the Boomerang III, I am tempted = to get that instead.
However, = Bob doesn=92t answer emails or phone calls=97I got thru to him on the = number listed on my credit card invoice, but that number is no = good.
Have I made a bad = mistake?
What do I do = now?
Thanks for any clues = here,
Gary = Lehmann
=93Gnarly = Heman=94


= --Apple-Mail-1-155608566-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 22 08:57:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1172183462; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 08:57:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E293BAE.1050208@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 10:58:22 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Mac Mini with i5/7 References: <4E28356D.2060203@post.cybercity.dk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5xEF5B.A.IT.ctTKOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111012 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 08:57:00 +0000 (UTC) Todd Matthews wrote: > Th mac mini 'server version' even has the quad core i7 and two hard drives. Could be an incredible recording machine. > > >>On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:19 PM, van Sinn wrote: >> >>>So, Apple just released not only an updated lappie, but also, finally, after >>>much rumour, an updated Mini. >>>Comes with core i5 or i7, up to 8GB ram, 500GB drive or 256GB SSD, Radeon >>>6630 graphics, and the usual I/O, like FW800. >>> >>>A friend of mine, whom among other things builds media centers, says i5/i7 >>>in real life never goes past 45watts no matter what work he puts them, incl. >>>graphics/video rendering, so this should be nice for a home/project studio. >>> >>>I'm seriously concidering selling off two lappies and shop the Mini with the >>>SSD and at least 4GB ram. I'd likely house my audio on an external FW >>>drive. >>>Sharing the drive and a Fireface400 on the FW800 may be an issue to >>>resolve.. >>> >>>-- >>>rgds, >>>van Sinn >>> >>> > > > -------------------- > Todd Matthews > toddbass.com > twitter: gtodd876 Yup, the server version would be cool, except that you might not be able to install the Lion desktop version on it with full support for everything. When I checked half a year ago, it was reported that not all drivers for things like network and cardreader were present for at least some of the older Mini server versions. IIRC, these could be post-installed, but functional networking might be nice having out of the box ;) Another issue with the server could be that Apple's shopping wizard likely will not allow putting it together with a quad i7, 8GB ram, one SSD and one harddrive - and of course a desktop Lion. Daniel Thomas wrote: > Its an amazing machine, the new Mini. But, I personally could never stomach > a primary audio box that does not support cards. I need my UAD cards at a > minimum. I understand you on this. Maybe you could arrange an external card thingy, hooked to an unused PCIe slot, like in the following example: While I do have an RME Fireface400, I might prefer using my Multiface for having lower latencies, and also due to having an RME Quad Mic interface. For this I'd clearly need an interfacing slot of sorts. However, I've seen someone removing the bluetooth interface (IIRC), and add something else to this PCIe slot, so it isn't totally unlikely a Cardbus interface could be added, allowing the Multiface via an RME cardbus interface. This would of course require either having the actual cardbus slot externally, or cut an opening somewhere on the Mini - a daring mod on a brand new Mini ;) Just might be possible routing a flatcable out to an external slot; dunno.. -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 22 09:43:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 862BF183461; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 09:43:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=qAIPlG/y3Nc6PgodCDLJ6ynvgR1bq+aliyZCyfHl4oc=; b=m/F1pW77QefC1WridhQ7l3x/biT8cGBdRxvOvn5QG+QXbE+aJjb7DoXKcFSfbj7IYr TumeRok4IwxN3q8ZQXlJuzd8TmNzkPaZIv6am/+DqWO3APOWWNvbZ+9DuxUvbiqszTMq nxDlJMTSa91ZIbaYHlwOJgG4llxKkOu4esseQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E290213.7010706@cruzio.com> References: <4E28356D.2060203@post.cybercity.dk> <4E290213.7010706@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 11:43:19 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Mac Mini with i5/7 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111013 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 09:43:20 +0000 (UTC) > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, van Sinn wrote: >> >> So, Apple just released................ an updated Mini. > On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > Any idea of the street price for this puppy? "Now starting at $599" says http://www.apple.com/macmini/ :-) For track intensive studio producing the $999 server model might be worth looking at. "2.0GHz quad-core Intel Core i7 processor that delivers incredible speed and performance, thanks to innovations like Turbo Boost 2.0, Hyper-Threading, and an integrated memory controller." Info: http://www.macrumors.com/2011/07/20/apple-releases-new-sandy-bridge-mac-minis-and-thunderbolt-display/ And a test review: http://www.macminicolo.net/macmini2011 Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 22 10:15:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 87BC4183473; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 10:15:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: Subject: Resonating Universes album - limited edition signed copies Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 13:13:33 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01CC4871.287CE5C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: <0RHwJC.A.cXB.V3UKOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111014 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 10:15:49 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CC4871.287CE5C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-9" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey loopers, My new album "Resonating Universes" has been released in London by = Sargasso Records. It is a work for concert harp, turkish harp, electric = harp and electronics. Lots of processing, lots of loops, lots of analog = pedals and lots of preparation on the instruments. The label now has 100 signed and numbered copies of the album. Hope you = will be interested and enjoy the music. http://www.sargasso.com/khxc/index.php?app=3Dccp0&ns=3Dprodshow&ref=3DSCD= 28064LE Thanks so much and best regards. Erdem Helvacioglu www.erdemhelvacioglu.com = = ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CC4871.287CE5C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-9" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey loopers,
 
My new album "Resonating Universes" has = been=20 released in London by Sargasso Records. It is a work for concert harp, = turkish=20 harp, electric harp and electronics. Lots of processing, lots of loops, = lots of=20 analog pedals and lots of preparation on the instruments.
 
The label now has 100 signed and = numbered copies of=20 the album. Hope you will be interested and enjoy the music.
 
http://www.sargasso.com/khxc/index.php?app=3Dccp= 0&ns=3Dprodshow&ref=3DSCD28064LE
 
Thanks so much and best = regards.
 
Erdem Helvacioglu
 
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
= = ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CC4871.287CE5C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 22 11:05:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4758A183465; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 11:05:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E295956.8060909@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 04:04:54 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: andy butler CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, hqr@cox.net Subject: Re: LP-2 References: <4E29314B.2030805@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4E29314B.2030805@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111015 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 11:05:01 +0000 (UTC) Here's the situation guys. Bob has been forced to take a new hi tech job because the manufacturing delays on the LP-2 have made it so that he had to start to make new income for his beautiful family of 5. Coupled with probably 50 hours of new work a week that is NON Looperlative related, on top of trying to get his three kids to all of their summer activities (sports and otherwise) and the fact that hardware parts for the LP-2 construction have been back ordered for a really long time, means that there have been lots of delays in the construction of the initial units that have been pre-ordered. Currently, just to save time, Bob is not answering any emails at all from the outside........there's, literally, no time for him to do so. Sooooooo, if you have made a deposit and feel that you can no longer wait for an LP-2, e-mail me directly (and , PLEASE, off list) and I'll make sure that Bob knows that you need a refund to get your looping needs met. Because he is a very small vendor, he has been back ordered on hardware parts that are crucial to the development of the LP-2. From what we can tell (and it's not 100% certain but highly likely) all the orders for the LP-2 that have been prepaid should be shipping within two months (possibly sooner). If you can't wait and want to use your funds, let me know and I'll have Bob contact you. My own feeling is that it is going to be worth the wait for the price of the unit and how sophisticated it will be, but we both feel that it's okay if you want to bale after having waited for so long. thanks for your patience and we apologize profusely for the delays in the manufacturer of this very hip new stomp box looper. respectfully, and apologetically, Rick Walker for Bob Amstadt of Looperlative. > > > Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote: >> Like some others here, I have placed a deposit (actually payment in >> full) for the Looperlative LP-2. >> >> I put my money down on 6/10/11, so I am hardly a trailblazer. >> >> With the recent posting of the Boomerang III, I am tempted to get >> that instead. >> >> However, Bob doesn’t answer emails or phone calls—I got thru to him >> on the number listed on my credit card invoice, but that number is no >> good. >> >> Have I made a bad mistake? >> >> What do I do now? >> >> Thanks for any clues here, >> >> Gary Lehmann >> >> “Gnarly Heman” From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 22 12:29:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDE16183464; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 12:29:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 647064479/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.18.97/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.18.97 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AikCAIBsKU5YbRJh/2dsb2JhbAAMR5g9mH+7P4Y/BJdmi2g X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.67,247,1309734000"; d="scan'208";a="647064479" Message-ID: <4E296D17.7010207@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 13:29:11 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Resonating Universes album - limited edition signed copies References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-9; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111016 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 12:29:06 +0000 (UTC) Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > turkish harp, what's that? kanun? andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 22 12:44:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 209F1183462; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 12:44:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E2970A6.8070606@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 08:44:22 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #746 for July 21, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111017 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 12:44:29 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/110721.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #746 July 21, 2011. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Jürgen Haible. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Holiday In Purgatory" which is a self- released title. http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#jul On this show, I played music by Mark Jenkins who will appear this Sunday at the Soundscapes Concert Series. Visit the events page for details. http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/events.html PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) VA [Code Indigo] Lost Radio Programs A Little More Night Music 2 & 3 (AD Music) VA [Robert Fox] Lady of the Lake A Little More Night Music (AD Music) VA [Acheloo] Ishtar Gate A Little More Night Music (AD Music) Sensitive Chaos L'Asension Seeker After Patterns (Subsequent) Saul Stokes We Are Signals Sleek Nucleus (Stokesmusic) Surreal Realm Ominous Ambience Ominous Ambience (none) Circulum Musicum Quest Phases (Thar) Nautic Depths Norvegia * North Passage (Musical Philosophy) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Jürgen Haible Illumination Holiday In Purgatory (none) Jürgen Haible Queen of Glome Holiday In Purgatory (none) Jürgen Haible Sister My Sister Holiday In Purgatory (none) Jürgen Haible Desecration Holiday In Purgatory (none) Jürgen Haible Knitters of Black Holiday In Purgatory (none) Wool Jürgen Haible Holiday In Purgatory Holiday In Purgatory (none) Jürgen Haible Sings Daphne from Holiday In Purgatory (none) the Dead Room Jürgen Haible Open Corridor Holiday In Purgatory (none) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long focus on Jürgen Haible. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "The Secret Life of Trees" which is a self-released title. Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 22 15:06:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A69E0183461; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 15:06:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 841156.52198.bm@omp1045.mail.bf1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1311347206; bh=yXo+pWtUThen6Wpqzqj3OZPRYkxQpbFuSWf0ng8kcdc=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OSeP6lOsG224OLf77/n/b5L7fH3oHyFMyVNfxN0HneG0QIEcH/4AkRw6zQXRe/DIXiXRFhiuSvyVXNVXq2poUZnMzzWCnlMsYWxQHbrAEtXgzXsKto4uKZPM9q3s9W8euyIDTJa4g3CdZBV3Xcyctm9+uYvzonx0LZpGc8PbAbQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KThkIlZZU6DnD2I3brDBc3QEqFNKkULnz+rs1y/pMrtR9Az1PIadAMhu4n3QRDmHk8hYC0y82siUZ4snhKPanRFaixOK/cIMs/Jc6ixwgsH828HosyLg+DefWNkb9jXjIkHp87pQWgnou/x7+70J6+M3tdnrINaupdSVzTJd4Rk=; X-YMail-OSG: VGMjZvYVM1mmPl8fqyrtiDfQTK.fyIaVaQC9rj_THQCwN6B edlKiuTk1YmvLzyYRptv0MaYlelfwPhYPqicGQ0ykU.MsozpU1vq2P4q7tBZ 8eKAqZRdlqFcHXxjBzUgetkUtYLAsu7_s80dzfxjOybdBAvq.WiO9MSWWV6C zl2fbqnpHBwA96TFAgqyL6W8l8xuPCGRiks14CgDtIDPi_RvTBHF8QSmP4w. H_jlJR6OPQPrdCPFvde1jycNSw8Tn90ki1VS0bOhY9rhCv1hxgW6h2cbT0nT AKb_Ubknw54OKPV_H4GwbGN958DPPaomUAh7Zq30Jbs_OpiXIT5jz4GtmGpI E7OTBiyHWY.Tn.bwWu6wkKPqQfReW2OWCP3Yvb4JfsdEB3QefBtiEbtXuZQb Y6PXf52kkYD2pJA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.112.310352 Message-ID: <1311347205.24917.YahooMailClassic@web38404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 08:06:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Elmer Fuddski Subject: Re: LP-2 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4E295956.8060909@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-580927774-1311347205=:24917" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111018 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 15:06:47 +0000 (UTC) --0-580927774-1311347205=:24917 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (on top of trying to get his three kids to all of their summer activities (= sports and otherwise) Can't his wife drive the kids to soccer practice or their oboe lessons? =C2=A0 --- On Fri, 7/22/11, Rick Walker wrote: From: Rick Walker Subject: Re: LP-2 To: "andy butler" Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, hqr@cox.net Date: Friday, July 22, 2011, 4:04 AM Here's the situation guys. Bob has been forced to take a new hi tech job because the manufacturing del= ays on the LP-2 have made it so that he had to start to make new income for his beautiful family of 5. Coupled with probably 50 hours of new work a week that is NON Looperlative = related, on top of trying to get his three kids to all of their summer activities (sports and otherwise) and the= fact that hardware parts for the LP-2 construction have been back ordered for a reall= y long time,=C2=A0 means that there have been lots of delays in the construction of the initial units tha= t have been pre-ordered. Currently,=C2=A0 just to save time,=C2=A0 Bob is not answering any emails a= t all from the outside........there's, literally, no time for him to do so. Sooooooo,=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0if you have made a deposit and feel that you can= no longer wait for an LP-2,=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0e-mail me directly (and , PLEASE,=C2=A0 off list) and I'll make sure that Bob knows that you n= eed a refund to get your looping needs met. Because he is a very small vendor,=C2=A0 he has been back ordered on hardwa= re parts that are crucial to the development of the LP-2. >From what we can tell (and it's not 100% certain but highly likely)=C2=A0 a= ll the orders for the LP-2 that have been prepaid should be shipping within two months (possibly sooner). If you can't wait and want to use your funds,=C2=A0 =C2=A0 let me know and = I'll have Bob contact you. My own feeling is that it is going to be worth the wait for the price of th= e unit and how sophisticated it will be, but we both feel that it's okay if you want to bale after having waited for= so long. thanks for your patience and we apologize profusely for the delays in the m= anufacturer of this very hip new stomp box looper. respectfully, and apologetically, Rick Walker for Bob Amstadt of Looperlative. >=20 >=20 > Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote: >> Like some others here, I have placed a deposit (actually payment in full= ) for the Looperlative LP-2. >>=20 >> I put my money down on 6/10/11, so I am hardly a trailblazer. >>=20 >> With the recent posting of the Boomerang III, I am tempted to get that i= nstead. >>=20 >> However, Bob doesn=E2=80=99t answer emails or phone calls=E2=80=94I got = thru to him on the number listed on my credit card invoice, but that number= is no good. >>=20 >> Have I made a bad mistake? >>=20 >> What do I do now? >>=20 >> Thanks for any clues here, >>=20 >> Gary Lehmann >>=20 >> =E2=80=9CGnarly Heman=E2=80=9D=20 --0-580927774-1311347205=:24917 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I may possibly be interested........just depends on ca= sh flow....I'm 5 and 1 half hours away

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--- On Thu, 7/21/11, Jeff Evans <sazerac.jeff@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Jeff Evans <sazerac.= jeff@gmail.com>
Subject: Midwest Monthly Looping Gig
To: "Loopers-= Delight@loopers-delight.com" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>Date: Thursday, July 21, 2011, 8:59 AM

I'd= like to gauge interest in a monthly looping night in Chicago. The venue wo= uld be the back room of Haymarket Pub and Brewery in Chicago (so if you're = also an enthusiast of excellent craft beer, that'll be a bonus  for yo= u). The evenings that are available are Sun - Wed

Are there any loopers in the midwest interested in that kind of thing?

Cheers, Jeff


Sent from my iPad
(on top of trying to get his three kids = to all of their summer activities (sports and otherwise)
Can't his wife drive the kids to soccer practice or their oboe lessons= ?
 

--- On Fri, 7/22/11, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>= wrote:

From: Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>
= Subject: Re: LP-2
To: "andy butler" <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
Cc= : Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, hqr@cox.net
Date: Friday, July 22= , 2011, 4:04 AM

Here's the situation guys.

Bob has been force= d to take a new hi tech job because the manufacturing delays on the LP-2 ha= ve made it so that
he had to start to make new income for his beautiful = family of 5.

Coupled with probably 50 hours of new work a week that = is NON Looperlative related, on top of trying to get his
three kids to a= ll of their summer activities (sports and otherwise) and the fact that
h= ardware parts for the LP-2 construction have been back ordered for a really= long time,  means that
there have been lots of delays in the const= ruction of the initial units that have been pre-ordered.

Currently,&= nbsp; just to save time,  Bob is not answering any emails at all from = the outside........there's, literally, no time for him to do so.

Soo= ooooo,   if you have made a deposit and feel that you can no= longer wait for an LP-2,   e-mail me directly
(and , PLEASE,  off list) and I'll make sure that Bob knows that you need = a refund to get your looping needs met.

Because he is a very small v= endor,  he has been back ordered on hardware parts that are crucial to= the development of the
LP-2.

From what we can tell (and it's not= 100% certain but highly likely)  all the orders for the LP-2 that hav= e been prepaid should
be shipping within two months (possibly sooner).
If you can't wait and want to use your funds,    let me kno= w and I'll have Bob contact you.

My own feeling is that it is going = to be worth the wait for the price of the unit and how sophisticated it wil= l be,
but we both feel that it's okay if you want to bale after having w= aited for so long.

thanks for your patience and we apologize profuse= ly for the delays in the manufacturer of this very hip new stomp box looper= .

respectfully, and apologetically,

Rick Walker
for Bob Amstadt of Looperlative.
>
>
> Clayton Gary Lehman= n wrote:
>> Like some others here, I have placed a deposit (actual= ly payment in full) for the Looperlative LP-2.
>>
>> I p= ut my money down on 6/10/11, so I am hardly a trailblazer.
>>
= >> With the recent posting of the Boomerang III, I am tempted to get = that instead.
>>
>> However, Bob doesn=E2=80=99t answer = emails or phone calls=E2=80=94I got thru to him on the number listed on my = credit card invoice, but that number is no good.
>>
>> H= ave I made a bad mistake?
>>
>> What do I do now?
>= ;>
>> Thanks for any clues here,
>>
>> Gary= Lehmann
>>
>> =E2=80=9CGnarly Heman=E2=80=9D

--0-580927774-1311347205=:24917-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 22 15:52:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A453183464; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 15:52:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-07-22_03:2011-07-22,2011-07-22,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=21 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1107220130 Subject: Re: LP-2 From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: <4E29314B.2030805@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 08:52:00 -0700 Cc: hqr@cox.net Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: References: <4E29314B.2030805@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111019 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 15:52:18 +0000 (UTC) > The new technology depends not on big companies who can > reliably(fairly) hit a release, but on dedicated guys > like Bob who care about creating great products for loopers > more than they care about profits. Here here! Innovation usually comes at a high personal price. And we = loopers should know well the truth in this. =20 I for one am patient. Get it right, Bob. Feel great about it at = release. I'll buy two. :) Daniel =20 On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:14 AM, andy butler wrote: > Hi Gary, >=20 > The guy to contact is Rick Walker, > RICKWALKERlooppool.info > though I can tell you some of what what he'll say. > Bob must be desperate to get the LP2 out by now, I'm sure > his available free time is spent with the LP2. > (Bob also has a day job and a family to support as well as other = commitments, as I understand it there's not that much free time = available). > If he's hard to contact, that'll be why.=20 > It wouldn't be the first time a cutting edge looping device > took longer than expected to ship, that's certainly the case > with the Boomerang too...it's just they started development > earlier and have now released the product. > The software developers mantra is "it always takes longer than you = think, even > if you take into account that it takes longer than you think", > and that really applies to looping devices in a big way. >=20 > The new technology depends not on big companies who can > reliably(fairly) hit a release, but on dedicated guys > like Bob who care about creating great products for loopers > more than they care about profits. >=20 >=20 >=20 > all the best > andy >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote: >> Like some others here, I have placed a deposit (actually payment in = full) for the Looperlative LP-2. >> I put my money down on 6/10/11, so I am hardly a trailblazer. >> With the recent posting of the Boomerang III, I am tempted to get = that instead. >> However, Bob doesn=92t answer emails or phone calls=97I got thru to = him on the number listed on my credit card invoice, but that number is = no good. >> Have I made a bad mistake? >> What do I do now? >> Thanks for any clues here, >> Gary Lehmann >> =93Gnarly Heman=94 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 22 18:16:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 42F7818345C; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 18:16:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020202.4E29BE68.0107,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=g1yQxBn6urlsaTUwI3YZx3Tbrw0dN6Kp/MqkgaK+ScQ= c=1 sm=1 a=2lK5FwGITC4A:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:17 a=nr3cr-uHRPpkGXwGdcYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Clayton Gary Lehmann" To: Subject: Boomerang Software Upgrade Imminent--version 3 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 11:16:03 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Thread-Index: AcxIm2rq0iYv9/F/S/ONjKTS/2Qsow== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111020 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 18:16:10 +0000 (UTC) Just got off the phone with Mike Nelson-nice guy, he gave me 15 minutes of his time. The latest version of the Boomerang version 3 (BIII) (hey, I just made that up) supports feedback control thru the expression jack - the other control it affords is volume of the loops. He also said that the SideCar, a remote control pedal for the 'Rang, is shipping. I think my money is going to Texas - sorry, Northern California. Cheers, Gnarly From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 22 18:22:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FE83183462; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 18:22:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <39EE305126594F20AF6BA68B93A1FB32@MAC> From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: References: <4E296D17.7010207@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: Resonating Universes album - limited edition signed copies Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 21:22:39 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-9"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111021 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 18:22:43 +0000 (UTC) hey, here is the info about ceng - the turkish harp. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%87eng best. erdem h. www.erdemhelvacioglu.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" To: Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 3:29 PM Subject: Re: Resonating Universes album - limited edition signed copies > Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > >> turkish harp, > > what's that? > kanun? > > andy > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 22 22:00:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 179AA183462; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 22:00:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=3dHIQ0uBWWBOG5cLkJ2qU70X1cEi5VeohJ9YI9lFlyY=; b=oM4l1d5nRZ7BlfmoNxXZdOTiitXyH9seF0D2js2W4NZYcTuMAfJUreweWff3GOC/Kg oSJAQo4Y6hEzO4zedWC9BmsksCkV74TxQFKUuTCfi83nOjixZMZNI9MOK+xQK03jojmL G1zMLPX8p7iffYHJok5QaLxKM5tSBzdkfIZdM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E28058C.9020807@cruzio.com> References: <1311181793.71282.YahooMailClassic@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4E28058C.9020807@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 17:00:47 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: OT: bi-amping From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151744830016aef904a8af99a9 Resent-Message-ID: <638qfC.A.DzB.QMfKOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111022 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 22:00:49 +0000 (UTC) --00151744830016aef904a8af99a9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The moog murf has stereo outputs, with the hi and low bands going to separate outs. Might be too much tone coloration for you though? On Jul 21, 2011 5:55 AM, "Rick Walker" wrote: > For what it's worth, I bought a very beautiful new pedal by DwarfCraft > called the LOOP MANGLER > > http://www.geargasstore.com/products/dwarfcraft-devices-loop-mangler-effects-loop-pedal > > that has a joy stick in the middle that > matches the volumes of two loops of effects. > > It's great because you can completely control the mixing of two loops in > real time. > > I love it, but it ends up sending out a mono signal. > > This might work for you, but you just have to figure out your gain > structure (as you do with all > effects chains, anyway. > > Good luck, Ditch. > > Rick > > > > > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, ditch wrestler wrote: >> That is lovingly low-tech, Rick! >> But last time I ran that set-up and had a volume pedal on each line, >> one volume pedal would override the other so I couldn't just have one >> line but had to have both. >> Maybe there was a matching problem - can't recall if my cables were >> trs or not... > --00151744830016aef904a8af99a9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The moog murf has stereo outputs, with the hi and low bands going to sep= arate outs. Might be too much tone coloration for you though?

On Jul 21, 2011 5:55 AM, "Rick Walker"= <looppool@cruzio.com> wro= te:
> For what it's worth, I bought a very = beautiful new pedal by DwarfCraft
> called the LOOP MANGLER
>
> http= ://www.geargasstore.com/products/dwarfcraft-devices-loop-mangler-effects-lo= op-pedal
>
> that has a joy stick in the middle that
> matches the= volumes of two loops of effects.
>
> It's great because y= ou can completely control the mixing of two loops in
> real time. >
> I love it, but it ends up sending out a mono signal.
> =
> This might work for you, but you just have to figure out your ga= in
> structure (as you do with all
> effects chains, anyway. >
> Good luck, Ditch.
>
> Rick
>
>
= >
>
> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, ditch wrestler wrote:
>&g= t; That is lovingly low-tech, Rick!
>> But last time I ran that se= t-up and had a volume pedal on each line,
>> one volume pedal would override the other so I couldn't just h= ave one
>> line but had to have both.
>> Maybe there was= a matching problem - can't recall if my cables were
>> trs o= r not...
>
--00151744830016aef904a8af99a9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 22 22:28:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9FE72183463; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 22:28:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ET6cCjlwrYtZaXQ0dYiyY1Rdhcvi9SdgsMr7cb8jRkk=; b=GMbguuwb2usKeN+OaqK2wd/uuCQquH9BNwoMDc4gGIxN1PdhFsnrVCTpEeydW9LEvP iOWUWDt/feNAj9suSbP7eJeF1yFPO5CwLmCa95qGQ+YdAv2sMvx2r2poYC1e+YvOa+PM qSptigW6LH9MTk3HjW19/TE1XsJjRGmFuHd7s= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1311181793.71282.YahooMailClassic@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4E28058C.9020807@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 00:28:35 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: OT: bi-amping From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111023 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 22:28:36 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 12:00 AM, marcus kirby wrote: > hi and low bands going to separate outs That's an good approach! Both for getting a good sound and for fighting feedback on a live stage. When the Mexican guitar duo Rodrigo y Gabriela played here in Stockholm they had a fantastic sound (!) and I took a chat with their live audio engineer. He uses 24 channels on the PA mixer console to separate frequencies in two acoustic guitars! I have not done much frequency separation directly in instruments but I do indeed separate different pickups on an electric guitar I have, an Epihone Ultra Les Paul 2: humbuckers going out through one line and the Shadow Nanomag "acoustic" mic through a second line. The two rigs can be blended directly from the guitar by the volume/tone knobs. With the Chapman Stick I always run each fretboard over its own line. I don't put different amps at the other part of those two lines, since I prefer a computer for amplification and processing. However, in the box the two lines always meet separated and unique processing and I even play the two virtual effect-boards separated (dual expression pedal setups etc). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 23 15:40:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 16E05183462; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:40:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=G6Q69DB3AUoJKS2BpLRaz8MQ2NORN7h5HRzrJMPOhRw= c=1 sm=1 a=Zq2FpVYgtBoA:10 a=4jB6t7rCrbYA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=5r4WfH5DhWOvYH0zPWoQZw==:17 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=xTSgCWfdiAaZiXK9RwgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=5r4WfH5DhWOvYH0zPWoQZw==:117 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 08:40:52 -0700 Subject: Re: Boomerang Software Upgrade Imminent--version 3 From: Richard Atkinson To: LOOPERS DELIGHT LIST Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Boomerang Software Upgrade Imminent--version 3 Thread-Index: AcxIm2rq0iYv9/F/S/ONjKTS/2QsowAs3wr8 In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4T1_ED.A.OBE.GuuKOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111024 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:40:54 +0000 (UTC) I've currently got a Rang III, and am looking forward to the Sidecar. However, there are no images of the Sidecar on the website anymore, and no mention of the software upgrade as well. I can't imagine Mike expects potential buyers to have to call him to get their new goodies? So, is this notice premature, or is Boomerang really shipping this stuff? On 7/22/11 11:16 AM, "Clayton Gary Lehmann" wrote: > Just got off the phone with Mike Nelson-nice guy, he gave me 15 minutes of > his time. > The latest version of the Boomerang version 3 (BIII) (hey, I just made that > up) supports feedback control thru the expression jack - the other control > it affords is volume of the loops. > He also said that the SideCar, a remote control pedal for the 'Rang, is > shipping. > I think my money is going to Texas - sorry, Northern California. > Cheers, > Gnarly > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 23 21:25:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98DA9183461; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 21:25:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E2B3C51.5080609@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:25:37 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Thought Radio Playlist for July 23, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111025 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 21:25:46 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2011/110723.html The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EDT/GMT-4 on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Show #203 July 23, 2011. On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. Each contemporary issue comes with a CD. However, the early issues came with a cassette. The cassettes from issues one through thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic slip covers with artwork and track details. Details are at: http://sequencesmagazine.com On this program, I played music by Mark Jenkins who will play at the Soundscapes Concert Series on Sunday, July 24, at 8:00 pm. http://soundscapes.us Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== John Sobocan Boon Features of Spheres (none) Steve Roach Medicine of the Live at Soundquest Fest Moment (Timeroom Editions) VA [Greg Breden] Earthrise Sequences No. 15 Mark Jenkins Supernova Supernova (AMP) Jurgen Haible Holiday In Purgatory Holiday In Purgatory (none) Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Homeless Balloon Ancient City part 2 Ancient City (24 Chillout) Keith Driskill Melancholy Moment A Time of Innocence (none) Keith Driskill My Angel Friend A Time of Innocence (none) Antoine DuFour Spiritual Groove Sound Pictures (Candyrat) Antoine DuFour Mother Sound Pictures (Candyrat) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Lisa LaRue Prometheus Fast and Blue (Nightmare) GNO The Keeper Cannibal Tango (Sensory) Morglbl 22 Oz. Jazz for the Deaf (The Laser's Edge) Pinnacle Too Far Gone single (Everything To Excess) Alan Morse Cold Fusion * Four O'clock and Hysteria (InsideOut) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill Fox ======================================================================== Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EDT/GMT-4. Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music. Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Website - http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 23 21:49:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D15B5183462; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 21:49:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E2B41F7.4050402@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 14:49:43 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: The latest on the release of the LP-2 References: <4E295956.8060909@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4E295956.8060909@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111026 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 21:49:47 +0000 (UTC) Bob informed me earlier this week that everything is ready and he's just waiting to assemble and ship. Unfortunately, he is a very small vendor and he is currently back ordered on some of the parts necessary to finish assembly (have empathy, this exact situation is what made Apple abandon their original processors in favor of Intel CPUs). He's been back ordered for weeks now and assures me that this is the only single holdup. He's ready to go and the preorders will be taken care of immediately as soon as he's in possession of all of the parts. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 23 23:49:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A15C918345F; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 23:49:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=pLPlkKcK38cN4Cv4YkVeTGGRYpmKez/IrX640LVKWnc= c=1 sm=0 a=4jB6t7rCrbYA:10 a=p_P8It6jP9UA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=bjue6iMc0PxFzCOyRLaH1w==:17 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=r934Kebq6xvcbGTiXwwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=bjue6iMc0PxFzCOyRLaH1w==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 74.76.199.163 From: "Hoby Ebert" To: References: Subject: RE: Boomerang Software Upgrade Imminent--version 3 Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 19:49:27 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcxJf6KsWIrbiTNZTxSiWHACoL7t6QAE19ZQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111027 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 23:49:28 +0000 (UTC) Great news, indeed. Did Mike give you a price on the SideCar? -----Original Message----- From: Clayton Gary Lehmann [mailto:hqr@cox.net] Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 2:16 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Boomerang Software Upgrade Imminent--version 3 Just got off the phone with Mike Nelson-nice guy, he gave me 15 minutes of his time. The latest version of the Boomerang version 3 (BIII) (hey, I just made that up) supports feedback control thru the expression jack - the other control it affords is volume of the loops. He also said that the SideCar, a remote control pedal for the 'Rang, is shipping. I think my money is going to Texas - sorry, Northern California. Cheers, Gnarly From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 24 03:28:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA4BD183462; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 03:28:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <37910AD2-F102-462B-BA27-6E8AAD4AA68F@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-310960503 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: New Moog Lap Steel Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 20:28:45 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111028 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 03:28:52 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-310960503 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yesterday the Moog lap steel arrived for review and today I spent several hours playing it and recording. here is a video of a long improvisation that exploits the instruments infinite sustain capability. This thing is remarkable Bill http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVfGzEBAalY --Apple-Mail-2-310960503 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yesterday the Moog lap steel arrived for review and today I spent several hours playing it and recording. here is a  video of a long improvisation that exploits the instruments infinite sustain capability. This thing is remarkable 
Bill
--Apple-Mail-2-310960503-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 24 04:20:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F64418345D; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 04:20:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=1b2X7W/SifksZeClH/haT1SUt4udqxFGF00pZw2/jJk= c=1 sm=1 a=Zq2FpVYgtBoA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=5r4WfH5DhWOvYH0zPWoQZw==:17 a=wod9hcA5AAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=teoblhUwXbwr3UqmhC8A:9 a=heVRiAcBIUTR_DMflCgA:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=zaMPjcxdHi0A:10 a=jEcUmrojGEZAnO3EBAYA:9 a=0HUmr-zvC7Oy9RTERowA:7 a=5r4WfH5DhWOvYH0zPWoQZw==:117 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 21:20:11 -0700 Subject: Re: New Moog Lap Steel From: Richard Atkinson To: LOOPERS DELIGHT LIST Message-ID: Thread-Topic: New Moog Lap Steel Thread-Index: AcxJuPpbOL9lzLWsEeCsgQAWywDfRw== In-Reply-To: <37910AD2-F102-462B-BA27-6E8AAD4AA68F@baymoon.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3394300823_24007273" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111029 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 04:20:25 +0000 (UTC) > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3394300823_24007273 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Bill, Although I have known of you for about a decade or more, and feel that I somewhat =8Cknow you=B9 through the LD list, I have only seen you play once. I= t was at the Loopstock 2002 show in San Luis Obisbo. I then recently, have seen your lap steel work via youtube. So, from that perspective, please allow me to say I ABSOLUTELY LOVE where your head and playing are! These pulsing ambiences with harmonic and melodic little journeys is really stellar, my friend, and very, very listenable. Kill those fucking switch clicks and you=B9ve got a fan. Hahaha....actually, I=B9ve been a fan since 2002. My reaction to that set was =B3whoa, shit, this boy knows how to play.=B2 You=B9re doing gods work, son. Namaste. Rich On 7/23/11 8:28 PM, "William Walker" wrote: > Yesterday the Moog lap steel arrived for review and today I spent several > hours playing it and recording. here is a video of a long improvisation = that > exploits the instruments infinite sustain capability. This thing is remar= kable > Bill > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfVfGzEBAalY > =20 >=20 --B_3394300823_24007273 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: New Moog Lap Steel Bill,=

Although I have known of you for about a decade or more, and feel that I so= mewhat ‘know you’ through the LD list, I have only seen you play= once.  It was at the Loopstock 2002 show in San Luis Obisbo.

I then recently, have seen your lap steel work via youtube.

So, from that perspective, please allow me to say I ABSOLUTELY LOVE where y= our head and playing are!  These pulsing ambiences with harmonic and me= lodic little journeys is really stellar, my friend, and very, very listenabl= e.

Kill those fucking switch clicks and you’ve got a fan.  Hahaha..= ..actually, I’ve been a fan since 2002.  My reaction to that set = was “whoa, shit, this boy knows how to play.”

You’re doing gods work, son.   Namaste.

Rich





On 7/23/11 8:28 PM, "William Walker" <billwalker@baymoon.com&g= t; wrote:

Yesterday the Moog lap steel arrived for review and tod= ay I spent several hours playing it and recording. here is a  video of = a long improvisation that exploits the instruments infinite sustain capabili= ty. This thing is remarkable
Bill
http://www.youtube.com= /watch?v=3DfVfGzEBAalY
 


 --B_3394300823_24007273-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 24 04:36:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93D2E183461; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 04:36:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=UAOXYM1qeuFP37yz78w96nv+0/00aVW4MCvq1Cw9yG4J31//U8PUtnKvDcPDRfrg; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <17493754.1311482181799.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 21:36:21 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Moog Lap Steel Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd48e34f6a6628d6739f8ec648c1985bfed13ca473d225a0f487350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.32 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111030 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 04:36:22 +0000 (UTC) Re: New Moog Lap Stee= llov the switch clicks and the video-keepum comin' son=
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Atkinson
Sent: Jul 23, 2011 9:20 PM
To: LOOPERS DELIGHT LIST
Subject: Re: New Moog Lap Steel

B= ill,

Although I have known of you for about a decade or more, and feel that I so= mewhat =E2=80=98know you=E2=80=99 through the LD list, I have only seen you= play once.  It was at the Loopstock 2002 show in San Luis Obisbo.
I then recently, have seen your lap steel work via youtube.

So, from that perspective, please allow me to say I ABSOLUTELY LOVE where y= our head and playing are!  These pulsing ambiences with harmonic and m= elodic little journeys is really stellar, my friend, and very, very listena= ble.

Kill those fucking switch clicks and you=E2=80=99ve got a fan.  Hahaha= ....actually, I=E2=80=99ve been a fan since 2002.  My reaction to that= set was =E2=80=9Cwhoa, shit, this boy knows how to play.=E2=80=9D

You=E2=80=99re doing gods work, son.   Namaste.

Rich





On 7/23/11 8:28 PM, "William Walker" <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:<= br>
Yesterday the Moog lap steel arrived for review an= d today I spent several hours playing it and recording. here is a  vid= eo of a long improvisation that exploits the instruments infinite sustain c= apability. This thing is remarkable
Bill
= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfVfGzEBAalY
 


 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 24 05:26:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A556183464; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 05:26:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_rdCYTbfF0d0v6ZIHxRS+Mg)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-07-24_02:2011-07-23,2011-07-24,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1107230262 From: Daniel Thomas Subject: Re: New Moog Lap Steel Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:25:42 -0700 In-reply-to: <37910AD2-F102-462B-BA27-6E8AAD4AA68F@baymoon.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <37910AD2-F102-462B-BA27-6E8AAD4AA68F@baymoon.com> Message-id: <81178BC1-4D76-4D1A-9F7B-DCFD6360500C@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111031 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 05:26:09 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_rdCYTbfF0d0v6ZIHxRS+Mg) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT When can I come over, Bill?!! :) Daniel On Jul 23, 2011, at 8:28 PM, William Walker wrote: > Yesterday the Moog lap steel arrived for review and today I spent several hours playing it and recording. here is a video of a long improvisation that exploits the instruments infinite sustain capability. This thing is remarkable > Bill > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVfGzEBAalY > --Boundary_(ID_rdCYTbfF0d0v6ZIHxRS+Mg) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT When can I come over, Bill?!!
:)


Daniel 
On Jul 23, 2011, at 8:28 PM, William Walker wrote:

Yesterday the Moog lap steel arrived for review and today I spent several hours playing it and recording. here is a  video of a long improvisation that exploits the instruments infinite sustain capability. This thing is remarkable 
Bill

--Boundary_(ID_rdCYTbfF0d0v6ZIHxRS+Mg)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 24 10:17:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24E9518345F; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 10:17:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 651204818/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.23.15/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.23.15 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoCAKaFAU5YbRcP/2dsb2JhbAAMSJg2mEC/E4YrBJY9izY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,405,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="651204818" Message-ID: <4E2BF155.8050302@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 11:17:57 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Moog Lap Steel References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <0xc5r.A.dJG.JF_KOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111032 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 10:17:46 +0000 (UTC) Richard Atkinson wrote: > Kill those *u**ing switch clicks and you’ve got a fan. c'mon, no nit-picking Bill's vids have a great sound, something not that common in a you-tube vid. Well lit too. When I get my act together to make some demo vids I hope I can do as well. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 24 10:25:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 069B8183461; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 10:25:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 579 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 10:25:04 UTC X-Trace: 344770471/mk-outboundfilter-6.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$F2S-NILDRAM-ACCEPTED/f2s-nildram-customers/62.3.238.4/None/nick@1957.me.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.3.238.4 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: nick@1957.me.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.51) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ak8CAAjwK04+A+4E/2dsb2JhbAAMcAMBa1mZNJkFu3iFYF8EknCEeC2LPA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.67,255,1309734000"; d="scan'208";a="344770471" X-IP-Direction: IN From: "nick@12testing.net" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 11:15:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: slimline power amp suggestions? Reply-to: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <4E2BF0B8.12329.170BE7@nick.1957.me.uk> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.51) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110724-0, 24/07/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111033 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 10:25:04 +0000 (UTC) I'm after a *small and light* stereo power amp to minimise my setup - around 40 watts per side, ideally. Any suggestions? All the best, Nick Robinson music site : http://www.looping.me.uk myspace site : http://www.myspace.com/nickrobinsonloops looping forum : http://loopingmusic.proboards99.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 24 12:01:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65407183461; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 12:01:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E2C097D.6020609@soundscapes.us> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 08:01:01 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: TONIGHT - The Soundscapes Concert Series Presents Mark Jenkins at the Nazareth Center for the Arts Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111034 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 12:01:11 +0000 (UTC) Reminder: Sunday, July 24, the Soundscapes Concert Series returns to the Nazareth Center for the Arts with Mark Jenkins of the UK. Mark Jenkins is the author of the acclaimed book and CD "ANALOG SYNTHESIZERS" and is the first musician in the world to release a CD created entirely on the Apple iPad. He has created music for concert performances, advertising, TV and CD releases, and has performed at the London Planetarium, London Royal Greenwich Observatory Planetarium, London South Bank, Carnegie Science Center Pittsburgh, National Theatre Brazil, and in France, Holland, and China. Doors open at 7:30 pm and the concert is at 8:00 pm. The concert is free. Donations are requested to support the musician and to enable the Nazareth Center for the Arts to pay operating expenses. The NCA is located at 30 Belvidere Street, Nazareth, PA 18064 just off of Route 191 on the southwest corner of Belvidere Street and South Spruce Street. I hope to see you there! Cheers, Bill Fox The Soundscapes Concert Series http://soundscapes.us From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 24 14:44:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A231183461; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 14:44:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EiYlX2Fjk5YBwtL6B+d7LfwaxwYidkRLSmhBxgEfYl8=; b=txBQhIvTSRTR27tO5XqKjS6cJ2F0Sct8Smy9gf7+MLPCxpMg2CKA9CXQe39QltFWiy vta1ifQUAgl4lXromSc5T0PuWv85sa3Z1IC2+w/EAjhkPCl8bZ7XRDWRGmQ2RZQujuhA FmYId928MIbwFjuV4cCiamgSeQNmsNEiZ7rFA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E2BF155.8050302@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4E2BF155.8050302@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 16:44:01 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Moog Lap Steel From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111035 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 14:44:03 +0000 (UTC) excellent Bill! will you be putting the benders on it as well? On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 12:17 PM, andy butler wrot= e: > Richard Atkinson wrote: > >> Kill those *u**ing switch clicks and you=92ve got a fan. > > c'mon, > no nit-picking > Bill's vids have a great sound, something > not that common in a you-tube vid. > Well lit too. > > When I get my act together to make some > demo vids I hope I can do as well. > > andy > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 24 15:33:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4EE65183463; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:33:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=G6Q69DB3AUoJKS2BpLRaz8MQ2NORN7h5HRzrJMPOhRw= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=KD67oRxVopcfRK0UmPnanQ==:17 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=337l09EV658rSPIq5YIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=KD67oRxVopcfRK0UmPnanQ==:117 Message-Id: <59075E98-3A03-49CF-90DD-4577F8AEADC8@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <37910AD2-F102-462B-BA27-6E8AAD4AA68F@baymoon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: New Moog Lap Steel Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 08:33:02 -0700 References: <37910AD2-F102-462B-BA27-6E8AAD4AA68F@baymoon.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111036 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:33:15 +0000 (UTC) Nice Bill. You are apparently enjoying the Moog lap steel better than I enjoyed their regular guitar. Make 'er sing. Cheers, Ted On Jul 23, 2011, at 8:28 PM, William Walker wrote: > Yesterday the Moog lap steel arrived for review and today I spent > several hours playing it and recording. here is a video of a long > improvisation that exploits the instruments infinite sustain > capability. This thing is remarkable > Bill > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVfGzEBAalY > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 24 20:37:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E825183462; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 20:37:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=O0qBEK38hPoA+JOaveEaNwkwUNJSAzrACFQP/Y44sW8=; b=as3QRxF+j+Fn9KhpZm8lt1runugMZO6FiIeL6QLT5bchQJNi6S78Cy34EUREUf5CVt vqdB6jA87Svk6lGhMXs4urVi5ehB+/oCMsb2B2VLXZ1/AWYnjlRB9zqXB6rhwTE34AyM 3VHnsnbGFtDMtbDTviz9Ya4avLc85GaTk5obk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <59075E98-3A03-49CF-90DD-4577F8AEADC8@charter.net> References: <37910AD2-F102-462B-BA27-6E8AAD4AA68F@baymoon.com> <59075E98-3A03-49CF-90DD-4577F8AEADC8@charter.net> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 22:37:18 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ZyHQsTTRw8omw70wUa-l2gnuiok Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Moog Lap Steel To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151774085259956304a8d6ab84 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111037 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 20:37:40 +0000 (UTC) --00151774085259956304a8d6ab84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Finally got back to Oslo from holiday, thanks for all who tried to contact me while I was away... I was in a hut by the sea with no TV and no internet, apart from a very expensive roaming solution on the phone, which was mostly off... I was about to ramble on about my first impressions thru the streets as we drove thru, but cant... Just to say that when I opened the inbox I immediately clicked on this mail from Facebook, with 2 words that I know will make me click ANY link... Moog and Bill Walker... I am in tears.. this wonderful music is a soundtrack of the sadness that I found welcoming me at home thanks Bill. -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --00151774085259956304a8d6ab84 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Finally got back to Oslo from holiday, thanks for all who tried to contact = me while I was away... I was in a hut by the sea with no TV and no internet= , apart from a very expensive roaming solution on the phone, which was most= ly off...

I was about to ramble on about my first impressions thru the streets as= we drove thru, but cant... Just to say that when I opened the inbox I imme= diately clicked on this mail from Facebook, with 2 words that I know will m= ake me click ANY link... Moog and Bill Walker...

I am in tears.. this wonderful music is a soundtrack of the sadness tha= t I found welcoming me at home

thanks Bill.

--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--00151774085259956304a8d6ab84-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 24 22:47:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9FF2B183460; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 22:47:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <4E2BF0B8.12329.170BE7@nick.1957.me.uk> In-Reply-To: <4E2BF0B8.12329.170BE7@nick.1957.me.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <230F0238-BFB9-43B7-9104-BB27EEE52777@finleysound.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Matt McCabe Subject: Re: slimline power amp suggestions? Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:47:35 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111038 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 22:47:43 +0000 (UTC) Mesa Boogie 20/20? EL-84 tubes, sounds lovely. Not sure how much it = weighs, maybe about 20 pounds. Matt --- Finley Sound - Mixing and Mastering Hidden Valley Lake, CA (707) 315-3865 Ready to go? Upload your files here. On Jul 24, 2011, at 3:15 AM, nick@12testing.net wrote: > I'm after a *small and light* stereo power amp to minimise my setup -=20= > around 40 watts per side, ideally. Any suggestions? >=20 >=20 >=20 > All the best, >=20 > Nick Robinson >=20 > music site : http://www.looping.me.uk > myspace site : http://www.myspace.com/nickrobinsonloops > looping forum : http://loopingmusic.proboards99.com >=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 25 00:42:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 280E9183457; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 00:42:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 5275 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 00:42:12 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=aeMH4JcVOnVr0LmJAzqEvfnmJyuaZufWdlng4HTRGCk= c=1 sm=0 a=rm86geFEyhMA:10 a=nDghuxUhq_wA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=mh+FvEA7I3/2BJh8eSJ0ZQ==:17 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=tfFOZIhaQ_3cJvwNqrQA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=mh+FvEA7I3/2BJh8eSJ0ZQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 173.88.214.139 Message-ID: <4E2CA8A9.7000405@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 19:20:09 -0400 From: Brian Good User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.4; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Moog Lap Steel References: <37910AD2-F102-462B-BA27-6E8AAD4AA68F@baymoon.com> In-Reply-To: <37910AD2-F102-462B-BA27-6E8AAD4AA68F@baymoon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111039 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 00:42:13 +0000 (UTC) You make me really, really want to get one of those, and I don't even play guitar. On 7/23/11 11:28 PM, William Walker wrote: > Yesterday the Moog lap steel arrived for review and today I spent > several hours playing it and recording. here is a video of a long > improvisation that exploits the instruments infinite sustain capability. > This thing is remarkable > Bill > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVfGzEBAalY From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 25 01:31:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BEEDD183460; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 01:31:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=VZmU7GdhOXjeknglsirppqsxrwPzF7ATMrSpPqYvRcM=; b=v2rtV8QQrCqdl9+Xny7nnKx8n3ejYXiKlnAbrLPLmj8jBvFGRnGKpFD/fcWGm1H7S2 noVhZe53d8Ew6UNeQjv31Yj4nAFZ3+I9AryKqzrLENmydTUEh7YwjWR4F7vI7n8QnONP 9FhJlDXMScMHwdIdqRyyHpka72M/4SKtYog3o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 21:31:07 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Hi, Please See Text (thanks) From: D K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: "David S. Kasminsky" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=005045017058f8e33304a8dac4aa Resent-Message-ID: <0Tg75.A.G-G.cdMLOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111040 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 01:31:08 +0000 (UTC) --005045017058f8e33304a8dac4aa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, I may have signed up in correctly (I was under the impression a "read only" site or forum was available, I am getting multiple emails daily from Loopers Delight (and I unfortunately do not have the time to read most of them, what are my optiond Can I be put on a view site only and no emails (unless I were to post or reply to a post) I am getting A-Z which if I had time would I am sure be very interesting, or is this the only option daily emails etc if so (daily emails in batchs etc Please disenroll me my apologies for any issues David Kasminsky dwwavek@gmail.com --005045017058f8e33304a8dac4aa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi,

I may have signed up in correctly (I was under the impression a "read only" site or forum was available, I am getting multiple emails daily from Loopers Delight (and I unfortunately do not have the time

to read most of them, what are my optiond

Can I be put on a view site only and no emails (unless I were to post or reply to a post) I am getting A-Z which if I had time would I am sure be very interesting,

or is this the only option daily emails etc

if so (daily emails in batchs etc Please disenroll me my apologies for any issues

David Kasminsky

--005045017058f8e33304a8dac4aa-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 25 01:49:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 322B3183461; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 01:49:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=LEpvmgrV/vrgQWf8zlZECBBXDJBc+oxXJTNk6lMA1ac=; b=YHz9bRvsKmHns78J2LMU17+NjrH4WJoX9v+AQzLxJ6Ex+lMLPgDQT7kfGR3R+vJ0fG Fk1ajFOVS9wqKo/RUrNZXyCvT/RjNWRvxL2lejp0mo0Vq1a6hCS/s9DUUPEV0XWadwGw 47PRy2qsU0OjBMi/Ah5dIv28pY98w9Q16Ve24= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 21:49:01 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Hi, Please See Text (thanks) From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3071c9eaf9c6ba04a8db04c8 Resent-Message-ID: <3ZjZ2B.A.iNH.PuMLOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111041 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 01:49:04 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3071c9eaf9c6ba04a8db04c8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, just go back where you signed in and read up. You will see that there is a digest version. You just signed up for the wrong one. Make sure to unsubscribe and the resubscribe to the digest. Directions are there. http://www.loopers-delight.com/list/LoopList.html No view only web based forum here though. best, Jeff On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 9:31 PM, D K wrote: > Hi, > > I may have signed up in correctly (I was under the impression a "read only" > site or forum was available, I am getting multiple emails daily from Loopers > Delight (and I unfortunately do not have the time > > to read most of them, what are my optiond > > Can I be put on a view site only and no emails (unless I were to post or > reply to a post) I am getting A-Z which if I had time would I am sure be > very interesting, > > or is this the only option daily emails etc > > if so (daily emails in batchs etc Please disenroll me my apologies for any > issues > > David Kasminsky > > dwwavek@gmail.com > --20cf3071c9eaf9c6ba04a8db04c8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, just go back where you signed in and read up. You will see that there i= s a digest version. You just signed up for the wrong one. Make sure to unsu= bscribe and the resubscribe to the digest. Directions are there. http://www.loopers-deli= ght.com/list/LoopList.html
No view only web based forum here though.

best,

Jeff

<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 9:31 PM, D K <dwwavek@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

I may have signed up in correctly (I was under the impression a "= ;read only" site or forum was available, I am getting multiple emails = daily from Loopers Delight (and I unfortunately do not have the time

to read most of them, what are my optiond
Can I be put on a view site only and no emails (unless I were t= o post or reply to a post) I am getting A-Z which if I had time would I am = sure be very interesting,

or is this the only option daily emails etc
<= br>
if so (daily emails in batchs etc Please disenroll me my apol= ogies for any issues

David Kasminsky


--20cf3071c9eaf9c6ba04a8db04c8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 25 03:35:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4A1F183460; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 03:35:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-397752106 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: New Moog Lap Steel Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 20:35:17 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111042 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 03:35:25 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-397752106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Richard A: Thanks for the kind words and feedback, yes the switches, I was just discussing that very issue today with a friend, I wish someone would come up with a rubber cap of some sort to put over switches of this type to dampen the click. It wouldn't take much to at least minimize this issue. haven't yet tried to open the gordius LG to see if I can dampen the sound with foam on the inside, anyone tried that?The real solution when the volume isn't loud enough to drown it out, is to import the wave file in to Cubase and use the audio from the computer, which is cricket free, which for the most part i'm always recording, and the vids are a way of documenting what I've done. As soon as I teach myself to use that feature in Cubase, My vids will be more pro, I'll have pole dancers and four cameras going and a dog show as well :-) Stano and Andy B: Thanks for sticking up for me, Bros though I've developed a thicker hide since a certain Welsh gentleman made the same critique a while back ;-) ya gotta be tough in this biz i tell ya ! The mics on the Q3, seem to be hyper sensitive in the high frequencies, a bit sizzly sounding. So they seem to magnify that sound a bit. The clicky shit annoys me too believe me. Daniel T: Mi casa tu casa, Absolutely yes, Finding the time in the next week or so before I have to pass it along may be an issue, as I suddenly got very busy. but I'll have it when the review is over. as well, I have to meet one of the participants in the review who will be in Bonny doon the weekend after next so maybe i can bring it by for a few hours that Saturday or Sunday, before I hook up with him. The him being Robert Powell, a forward thinking pedal steel / lap steel player from the North SF bay who I shared some album credits with 20 years ago. Louie A: Not a chance, the bridge required for this instrument needs to rout the strings through the back,and has additional shielding done. and as cool as this is, it doesn't really replace my other lap steels in terms of what they do and how they sound. The guitar Hideki made for me that has the multi bender has a wonderful crisp high end and great bass that is singular in sound, perhaps the best sounding lap steel i've ever played. reminds me a bit of an old rickenbacher steel I once owned. Ted: Honestly I think this technology lends itself better to the lap steel than to a a regular guitar, as rolling the fingers over the frets can cause more drop in the sustain until you reach a new location, whereas the sliding a bar from one position to another seems to have less of this issue. Makes me feel a bit like a theremin player. i'm surprised i haven't seen more Moog guitar players whipping out a finger slide , but maybe I'm just not paying attention. One thing I did notice, these pickups have there own sound and way of driving the signal that is unique, if you are expecting the sound of a PAF or P-90 or a good single coil, you might be disappointed. I like the sound very much but its different. What I really liked about the Moog LS is how the instrument really comes alive in your hands, and I like it best with the filters bypassed and the expression pedal assigned to control the intensity of the sustain. However if you are a filter lover this thing has two classic moog choices with a wide range of control. I wasn't totally moved by the guitar either the limited time i spent with it but that was partly do to the look, and the price tag made me want to not like :-) Mark F: wow thanks a lot, man , Nancy called me from Asheville where she is visiting her Mom and heard the news first and said I needed to get in touch with you and find out if you were OK, glad you are and sorry for the madness there in Oslo. Brian: Thanks, it really is a different beast, a real missing link kind of mutant half guitar half analog synth, the way it handles sustain is unique, different than other sustainers i've tried with perhaps a wider range on tone colors and control. Its like standing in front off a wall of amps without the ear damage. i'm still not sure if I will be able to find a way to buy it but it is really seducing me, i'm just going to wait and see how this all pans out. Thanks for the feedback y'all Bill --Apple-Mail-1-397752106 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Richard = A: 
 Thanks for the kind words and feedback, yes the = switches, I was just discussing that very issue today with a =  friend,  I wish someone would come up with a rubber cap of = some sort to put over switches of this type to dampen the click. It = wouldn't take much to at least minimize this issue. haven't yet tried to = open the gordius LG to see if I can dampen the sound with foam  on = the inside, anyone tried that?The real solution when the volume isn't = loud enough to drown it out, is to import the wave  file in to = Cubase and use the  audio from the computer, which is cricket free, = which for the most part i'm always recording, and the vids are a way of = documenting what I've done. As soon as I teach myself to use that = feature in Cubase, My vids will be more pro, I'll have pole dancers and = four cameras going and a dog show as well :-) 
Stano = and Andy B:
 Thanks for sticking up for me, =  Bros  though I've developed a thicker hide since a certain = Welsh gentleman made the same critique a while back ;-) ya gotta be = tough in this biz i tell ya ! The mics on the Q3,  seem to be hyper = sensitive in the high frequencies,  a bit sizzly sounding. So they = seem to magnify that sound a bit. The  clicky shit annoys me too = believe me.
Daniel T:
 Mi casa tu casa, = Absolutely yes,  Finding the time in the next week or so before =  I have to pass it along may be an issue, as I suddenly got very = busy. but I'll have it when the review is over. as well,  I have to = meet one of the participants in the review who will be in Bonny doon the = weekend after next so maybe i can bring it by for a few hours that = Saturday or Sunday, before I hook up with him. The him being Robert = Powell, a forward thinking pedal steel / lap steel player from the North = SF bay who I shared some album credits with 20 years = ago.
Louie = A:
 Not a = chance, the bridge required for this instrument needs to rout the = strings through the back,and has additional shielding done. and as cool = as this is,  it doesn't really replace my other lap steels in terms = of what they do and how they sound. The guitar Hideki made for me that = has the multi bender   has a wonderful crisp high end and great = bass  that is singular in sound, perhaps the best sounding lap = steel i've ever played. reminds me a bit of an old rickenbacher steel =  I once owned.
Ted: Honestly I think this technology lends itself better to = the lap steel than to a a regular guitar, as rolling the fingers over = the frets can cause more drop in the sustain until you reach a new = location, whereas the sliding a bar from one position to another seems = to have less of this issue. Makes me feel a bit like a theremin player. =  i'm surprised i haven't seen more Moog guitar players whipping out = a finger slide , but maybe I'm just not paying attention. One thing I = did notice, these pickups have there own sound and way of driving the = signal that is unique, if you are expecting the sound of a PAF or P-90 = or a good single coil, you might be disappointed.  I like the sound = very much but its different. What I really liked about  the Moog LS =  is how the instrument really comes alive in your hands,  and =  I like it best with the filters bypassed and the expression pedal = assigned to control the intensity of the sustain. However if you are a = filter lover this thing has two classic moog choices with a wide range = of control. I wasn't totally moved by the guitar either the limited time = i spent with it but that was partly do to the look, and the price tag = made me want to not like :-)
Mark F: wow thanks a lot, man ,   Nancy called me from = Asheville where she is visiting her Mom and heard the news first and = said I needed to get in touch with you and find out if you were OK, glad = you are and sorry for the madness  there in = Oslo. 
Brian: =  Thanks, it really is a different beast,  a real missing link =  kind of mutant half guitar half analog synth, the way it handles = sustain is unique,  different than other sustainers i've tried with = perhaps a wider range on tone colors and control.  Its like = standing in front off a wall of amps without the ear damage. i'm still = not sure if I will be able to find a way to buy it but it is really = seducing me, i'm just going to wait and see how this all pans = out.
 Thanks for = the feedback y'all
 Bill


CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: slimline power amp suggestions? References: <4E2BF0B8.12329.170BE7@nick.1957.me.uk> In-Reply-To: <4E2BF0B8.12329.170BE7@nick.1957.me.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020706030206040008020204" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111044 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 05:42:28 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020706030206040008020204 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, nick@12testing.net wrote: > I'm after a*small and light* stereo power amp to minimise my setup - > around 40 watts per side, ideally. Any suggestions? Ever since the advent of very high quality and lightweight powered p.a. speakers and monitor speakers I haven't even looked at a stereo power amplifier. Have you considered such a solution, Nick? I have the 10" RCF powered monitors which go down to 40 cycles with impunity and they are excellent.......powerful and you can just send a mic cable from them to a p.a. and use them as your own monitors if you ever do a large venue. Very lightweight, I can't more highly recommend them and I've used the comparable Mackie 10" powered mains which I like (but greatly prefer the RCFs -- they go 10 cycles lower and are more compact and easier to dolly). rick walker --------------020706030206040008020204 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, nick@12testing.net wrote: 
I'm after a *small and light* stereo power amp to minimise my setup - 
around 40 watts per side, ideally. Any suggestions?
Ever since the advent of very high quality and lightweight powered p.a. speakers and monitor
speakers  I haven't even looked at a stereo power amplifier.

Have you considered such a solution, Nick?

I have the 10" RCF powered monitors which go down to 40 cycles with impunity and
they are excellent.......powerful and you can just send a mic cable from them to a p.a.
and use them as your own monitors if you ever do a large venue.    Very lightweight,
I can't more highly recommend them and I've used the comparable Mackie 10" powered mains
which I like (but greatly prefer the RCFs --  they go 10 cycles lower and are more compact and
easier to dolly).

rick walker


--------------020706030206040008020204-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 25 05:48:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5ED2183461; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 05:48:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E2D03AA.8040600@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 22:48:26 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: William Walker CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Moog Lap Steel References: <37910AD2-F102-462B-BA27-6E8AAD4AA68F@baymoon.com> In-Reply-To: <37910AD2-F102-462B-BA27-6E8AAD4AA68F@baymoon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111045 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 05:48:29 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, William Walker wrote: > Yesterday the Moog lap steel arrived for review and today I spent > several hours playing it and recording. here is a video of a long > improvisation that exploits the instruments infinite sustain > capability. This thing is remarkable > Bill > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVfGzEBAalY I have to say that living right next to Bill's garage/studio I've had a wonderful last few weeks as Bill as been playing the amazing Lap Steel with palm benders that Hideki Nakanashi made for him (with amazing embossed artwork by Ryusei). Bill's been really inspired and the music has been wonderful. I sometimes come out on my porch and play bowed violin to his electronic improvisations unbeknownst to him or go inside and sing the Scale he's playing in. Suddenly yesterday, I heard sounds I've never heard emanating from his garage........truly celestial........... little did I know that he was recording and putting it up immediately on youtube. How could he possibly top himself again? I'm so impressed. If there is any justice in this world, Moog should gift this amazing instrument to Bill. He makes it sing to the heavens. I'm just sayin' and without a hint of fear of being thought nepotistic. rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 25 08:45:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0BB1183460; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 08:45:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 648176800/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.19.186/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.19.186 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvgBAEMsLU5YbRO6/2dsb2JhbAAMKAEBBAE+RgYMDCEiDwkDAgECAQJRJQGYPpkDwGaGPwSXaItp X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.67,259,1309734000"; d="scan'208";a="648176800" Message-ID: <4E2D2D32.7010701@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 09:45:38 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Moog Lap Steel References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111046 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 08:45:25 +0000 (UTC) William Walker wrote: > The mics on the Q3, seem > to be hyper sensitive in the high frequencies, a bit sizzly sounding. Try putting some tissue paper in front of the mics as an acoustic filter. It's a technique often used for harsh monitor speakers, so the physics of it should work for mics too. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 25 09:03:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BEDE9183460; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 09:03:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2117 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 09:03:08 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1244.3) Subject: Re: New Moog Lap Steel From: Reyn Ouwehand In-Reply-To: <4E2BF155.8050302@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 10:25:28 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4E2BF155.8050302@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1244.3) X-Authenticated-Sender: reynouwehand@quicknet.nl (via SMTP) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1QlGTh-0001Ij-OH X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-2.9, vereist 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: loopers-delight@reyn.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111047 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 09:03:08 +0000 (UTC) Lovely.. On Jul 24, 2011, at 12:17 PM, andy butler wrote: > Richard Atkinson wrote: >> Kill those *u**ing switch clicks and you=92ve got a fan.=20 >=20 > c'mon, > no nit-picking > Bill's vids have a great sound, something > not that common in a you-tube vid. > Well lit too. >=20 > When I get my act together to make some > demo vids I hope I can do as well. >=20 > andy >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 25 10:28:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE583183460; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 10:28:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ScJo5rrGcLuk+cgsiDCSHZes929ouOo9uR1CMa3NVOg=; b=apDUOI/hKeIRn5wUHNjitkUzhBKzUGDqVO8f2V0m8vLhnJXxMXkWvqo9Jd9foOU7Fn 2ql3FfKiTaGziUvZ3bm92jsTggE/7f2K9EVkaIlCswqwbb+ErpXr6Y2EmHWEcbe0iTWC RvJPgbIvET7TJPtJaaiXrnzsVc9unMQMt4ZW4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 12:28:42 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: first part of my Y2KX+1 in Florence From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307d00e485be6304a8e247a3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111048 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 10:28:43 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307d00e485be6304a8e247a3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 For those of you who aren't on the LD group on FB, here is the video of my first part at the Y2KX+1 Florence Loopfest, which I'm very proud of. It's a precomposed piece made by 8 looped track in Mobius playing different metrics (5:4:3). The bass line moves back and forth from (Eb) to (G-) while the central section moves from (C-) to (Ab). This is also the first time I've used some scripts to change my loops "scenes" and add some "crescendo" and "diminuendo" to the loops (here is were Mobius excels, IMO). http://youtu.be/UniHqUnal-c -f --20cf307d00e485be6304a8e247a3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--20cf307d00e485be6304a8e247a3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 25 20:36:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93446183460; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 20:36:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1581 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 20:36:44 UTC X-WhiteListed: mail was accepted with no delay X-WhiteListed: mail was accepted with no delay X-Originating-IP: 217.70.178.134 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter4-d.gandi.net X-Originating-IP: 82.245.12.25 From: "Marc" To: Subject: rocktron midimate foot controler Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 22:03:37 +0200 Message-ID: <062001cc4b05$f1cc00a0$d56401e0$@clubcapelli.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0621_01CC4B16.B5578FC0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 thread-index: AcxLBMx77pNEP/+uTtqQxMEAIPd8hA== Content-Language: fr X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110725-0, 25/07/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111049 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 20:36:44 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0621_01CC4B16.B5578FC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Reading this on the Behringer FCB1010 thread : "While we're exploring other pedals, there is also this one I don't think anyone mentioned: http://www.rocktron.com/products/controllers/midimate/ It is smaller than the FCB and has one jack for an expression pedal. It has been awhile since I looked at this but IIRC, I didn't like it for Mobius because it was designed primarily to send program changes and couldn't be configured to work in "sustain" mode where it sends something when you press a button and something else when you release the button. (Some footswitches call this "instant" or "momentary"). If you don't have that then you can't use any of the sustainable functions in Mobius, but this may not matter to you. Jeff" I wish to draw your attention on the fact that the rocktron midimate foot controller does not correctly send CC midi messages. It send CC, but the value MUST BE 0 OR 127!... (no intermediate value). It send 6 PC at the same time, or 6CC, and 1 CC continuous, and no other midi message. That's why I didn't choose it for my looping usage. Best Regards from France, (sorry for my poor English writing) Marc ------=_NextPart_000_0621_01CC4B16.B5578FC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

 

Reading this on the Behringer FCB1010 thread = :

 

“While we're exploring other pedals, there is also = this one I don't think anyone mentioned:

 

    = http://www.rocktron.com/products/controllers/midimate/<= /p>

 

It is smaller than the FCB and has one jack for an = expression pedal.

 

It has been awhile since I looked at this but IIRC, I = didn't like it for Mobius because it was = designed

primarily to send program changes and couldn't be = configured to work in "sustain" mode where = it

sends = something when you press a button and something else when you release = the button.

(Some footswitches call this "instant" or = "momentary").  If you don't have that then = you

can't = use any of the sustainable functions in Mobius, but this may not matter = to you. 

 

Jeff”

 

 

I wish to draw your attention on the fact that the rocktron = midimate foot controller does not correctly send CC midi = messages.

 

It send CC, but the value MUST BE 0 OR 127!... (no = intermediate value).

It send 6 PC at the same time, or 6CC, and 1 CC continuous, = and no other midi message.

 

That’s why I didn’t = choose it for my looping usage.

 

Best Regards from = France,

 

(sorry for my poor English writing)

 

Marc

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_0621_01CC4B16.B5578FC0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 25 20:59:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5579D183464; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 20:59:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LqLP5XkHnI/k+XOExxHWJCSxTKVMoMIh32i11ULVrtM=; b=h/YvlobwG5fZsj+YjMdcrAfwvjWLHTsgpZX4D3OoI1lspYB9lHzzIRG8NEffqrv7PH 1IPMWiMvGqUYpmBOVQt0uxru/ePpYIJoXiZCh/ixnjLi5ejtY8h5fm9HD3QdEEZLYakP MfCP3+TOPBKcSnOKTpV8aSw4KoLoHEq9bqGUY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E2D023D.4010902@cruzio.com> References: <4E2BF0B8.12329.170BE7@nick.1957.me.uk> <4E2D023D.4010902@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 22:59:12 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: slimline power amp suggestions? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <9ggUbD.A.g6D.ikdLOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111050 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 20:59:14 +0000 (UTC) talking about this makes me jump in into the subject ,ive been debating wether i should sell my little AER compact 60 and get the AER domino 3 i just love the sound of this babies with the acoustic guitars and even putting my Ethos overdrive with its speaker out through it. This would allow me to completly bypass a mixer,hook uo my stereo guitar outs,my microphone voice fx and harmonizers and put my looper in its fx sends and play small bars without having to haul a whole P.A. here it is: 4 independent real channels true stereo 2x85 watt 8" Speakers 2 effectboards independently with each 16 digital Effects Channel mutes DI out controllable left and right outs sends and returns aux in master Output weights 14 kilos i just wonder how the stereo fx would sound compared to a P.A.,off course i could hook up a powered speaker in the back price is high but might be worth it,i havent come across something like this cheaper yet any thoughts,opinions? heres a link http://www.aer-amps.info/images/stories/pdf_data/Flyer/Domino3.pdf cheers Luis On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 7:42 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, nick@12testing.net wrote: > > I'm after a *small and light* stereo power amp to minimise my setup - > around 40 watts per side, ideally. Any suggestions? > > Ever since the advent of very high quality and lightweight powered p.a. > speakers and monitor > speakers=A0 I haven't even looked at a stereo power amplifier. > > Have you considered such a solution, Nick? > > I have the 10" RCF powered monitors which go down to 40 cycles with impun= ity > and > they are excellent.......powerful and you can just send a mic cable from > them to a p.a. > and use them as your own monitors if you ever do a large venue.=A0=A0=A0 = Very > lightweight, > I can't more highly recommend them and I've used the comparable Mackie 10= " > powered mains > which I like (but greatly prefer the RCFs --=A0 they go 10 cycles lower a= nd > are more compact and > easier to dolly). > > rick walker > > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 25 21:05:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31F24183461; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 21:05:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2wLr+Za75399LW34DcBpRypDmAUiky/2HEtuRfEqDVw=; b=L4RHBvf71heYT8oJ75cCg+177yLmD9zNSoBXx8bqqJXgRrUSEtmX303MOTDmrY9KCi YzfbSfuFxjGtfitPh4UmiXiKU0N1sbHeUYUxZtDDmh4+PxdRGVhKHv8LKSvZZuzXWzRb lAjXTPINz5hvR/L6uCWPvzPLaQN8L8/Z3iCws= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <062001cc4b05$f1cc00a0$d56401e0$@clubcapelli.com> References: <062001cc4b05$f1cc00a0$d56401e0$@clubcapelli.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 23:05:48 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: rocktron midimate foot controler From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111051 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 21:05:50 +0000 (UTC) if u can get a Digitech PMC10 in ebay perhaps do it! it does all and more and its about the same size! cheers Luis On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Marc wrote: > Hi, > > > > Reading this=A0on the Behringer FCB1010 thread : > > > > =93While we're exploring other pedals, there is also this one I don't thi= nk > anyone mentioned: > > > > =A0=A0=A0 http://www.rocktron.com/products/controllers/midimate/ > > > > It is smaller than the FCB and has one jack for an expression pedal. > > > > It has been awhile since I looked at this but IIRC, I didn't like it for > Mobius because it was designed > > primarily to send program changes and couldn't be configured to work in > "sustain" mode where it > > sends something when you press a button and something else when you relea= se > the button. > > (Some footswitches call this "instant" or "momentary").=A0 If you don't h= ave > that then you > > can't use any of the sustainable functions in Mobius, but this may not > matter to you. > > > > Jeff=94 > > > > > > I wish to draw your attention on the fact that the rocktron midimate foot > controller does not correctly send CC midi messages. > > > > It send CC, but the value MUST BE 0 OR 127!... (no intermediate value). > > It send 6 PC at the same time, or 6CC, and 1 CC continuous, and no other > midi message. > > > > That=92s why I didn=92t choose it for my looping usage. > > > > Best Regards from France, > > > > (sorry for my poor English writing) > > > > Marc > > > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 25 21:39:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F5AB183464; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 21:39:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 5733 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 21:39:18 UTC X-Originating-IP: 217.70.178.137 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter8-d.gandi.net X-Originating-IP: 82.245.12.25 From: "Marc" To: Subject: RE: rocktron midimate foot controler / Yamaha MFC10 Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 23:39:10 +0200 Message-ID: <063901cc4b13$4b108f20$e131ad60$@clubcapelli.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 thread-index: AcxLENxzEVWnHWdBQSqnPA1SAlgVjg== Content-Language: fr X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110725-1, 25/07/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111052 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 21:39:19 +0000 (UTC) Luis, Thank you for this idea. Unfortunatly the PCM-10 is very hard to find in = second-hand in France, and even in forums, very little writings : http://fr.audiofanzine.com/pedalier-midi/digitech/PMC-10/ I've studied about all the midi foot controlers available here (in = second-hand) and my choose were about the FCB1010 / midimate / MFC10 I've not choose the midimate because this problems, and not choose the = FCB1010 which were too large for a "peaceful family atmosphere" (not = sure we can write this in English), I've better choose the smaller one = YAMAHA MFC10. Have pay 130=E2=82=AC for it last week (second hand but a quite new = product, full with power and manual), and very happy about it ! It works perfectly, VERY easy to program, 4PC or 4CC or 4 notes = simultaneous, other midi messages (note, start/stop song, tempo...). It takes me few seconds for each switch to program my looper, there is 1 = expression pedal, and I can plug 4 other, perfect for my 5 track looper = ! I have programmed yet : o Mute / unmute of all the 5 tracks + entry track o Solo of all the 5 tracks + entry track o play / stop / record / overdub / new loop / ext Sync / octave ... o volume of each of the 5 tracks + entry track with the internal = expression pedal (receive 1 external tomorrow, will test 2 tracks at = same time) o pan of 4 tracks + entry (L/R) o dry / wet (L/R) of all tracks... o chorus / verse... ... No limit for somebody comfortable with midi. So easy to enter in the = foot controller. All that works perfectly Not noticed latency yet (how to perform a latency test? my leg is not as = fast as 70 ms) :) only one limit : it send (on one clic switch) 4 CC OR 4 PC, not 4 CC AND = 4 PC, but with my looper it doesn't make problem for now. Best Regards from France, (sorry for my poor English writing) =20 Marc > -----Message d'origine----- > De : Louie Angulo [mailto:louie.angulo@googlemail.com] > Envoy=C3=A9 : lundi 25 juillet 2011 23:06 > =C3=80 : Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Objet : Re: rocktron midimate foot controler >=20 > if u can get a Digitech PMC10 in ebay perhaps do it! > it does all and more and its about the same size! > cheers > Luis >=20 > On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Marc wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Reading this on the Behringer FCB1010 thread : > > > > > > > > =E2=80=9CWhile we're exploring other pedals, there is also this one = I don't > > think anyone mentioned: > > > > > > > > http://www.rocktron.com/products/controllers/midimate/ > > > > > > > > It is smaller than the FCB and has one jack for an expression pedal. > > > > > > > > It has been awhile since I looked at this but IIRC, I didn't like it > > for Mobius because it was designed > > > > primarily to send program changes and couldn't be configured to work > > in "sustain" mode where it > > > > sends something when you press a button and something else when you > > release the button. > > > > (Some footswitches call this "instant" or "momentary"). If you = don't > > have that then you > > > > can't use any of the sustainable functions in Mobius, but this may = not > > matter to you. > > > > > > > > Jeff=E2=80=9D > > > > > > > > > > > > I wish to draw your attention on the fact that the rocktron midimate > > foot controller does not correctly send CC midi messages. > > > > > > > > It send CC, but the value MUST BE 0 OR 127!... (no intermediate = value). > > > > It send 6 PC at the same time, or 6CC, and 1 CC continuous, and no > > other midi message. > > > > > > > > That=E2=80=99s why I didn=E2=80=99t choose it for my looping usage. > > > > > > > > Best Regards from France, > > > > > > > > (sorry for my poor English writing) > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 25 22:22:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9136F18345F; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 22:22:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E2DECAC.9010407@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:22:36 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: andy butler CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Toilet Paper in the Studio: was New Moog Lap Steel References: <4E2D2D32.7010701@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4E2D2D32.7010701@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111053 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 22:22:40 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote: > William Walker wrote: > >> The mics on the Q3, seem to be hyper sensitive in the high >> frequencies, a bit sizzly sounding. > > Try putting some tissue paper in front of the mics as an acoustic filter. > It's a technique often used for harsh monitor speakers, > so the physics of it should work for mics too. > > andy Wow, this takes me back to the days of hanging toilet paper over the tweeters of the Yamaha NS-10Ms to prevent listener fatigue in long sessions. Thanks for the memory, Andy! The Yamahas were used to simulate what a crappy car speaker would sound like. We'd take our mixes, run 'em in mono and then dupe to cassette and play them through the NS-10Ms to make sure our shit was radio friendly. In those days it was huge JBL systems and the 10Ms. I was so fanatical in those days. I'd run mixes through a good car stereo, a crap car stereo, an expensive boom box, a crap boombox, a hi fi stereo system and a crap stereo system to make sure that the mixes sounded as best as they could for everyone. I used that technique so many times that I could hear any studio monitoring system in town and be able to tell what a mix would sound like on all of those systems. ****** Sorry you got me reminiscing but speaking of using toilet paper in studios: We'd take four layers of toilet paper and drape them over a couple of inches of the edge of the snare drum batter head, too, to reduce the ring of the drum without affecting it's liveliness. The attack would throw the toilet paper up and then it would fall immediately to gently gate the high ring of the drum. ............good old toilet paper! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 25 22:41:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83C30183464; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 22:41:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-07-25_07:2011-07-25,2011-07-25,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1107250224 Subject: Re: Toilet Paper in the Studio: was New Moog Lap Steel From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: <4E2DECAC.9010407@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:41:13 -0700 Cc: andy butler Message-id: <8952C5E9-4EF9-4C45-B967-7138CA5C22E1@mac.com> References: <4E2D2D32.7010701@tiscali.co.uk> <4E2DECAC.9010407@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111054 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 22:41:38 +0000 (UTC) > In those days it was huge JBL systems and the 10Ms I never could stand those huge booming JBLs-- the rooms they were built into quite frequently were made to look like God's studio rather than sound like it. In fact, to this day, I still go back to the NS10ms to get the bass balance just right if I am having troubling translating in the car or elsewhere. Its not that Ns10ms sound good--quite the contrary... its just that if you can make it sound balanced on a pair of NS10ms without your ears bleeding from the harshness, then it will pretty much fit into any consumer audio system with reasonable accuracy. As for toilet paper techniques, I have always been a fan of it for ass, nose, and other wipe requirements. And, I was frequently the guy taping the four sheets to the rim of the snare that Rick mentioned. But, since traveling in Japan several times now, I am have become a convert to the Spray your Butt toilet system that is common there. So, its good to know that Toilet Paper still has some kind of application in modern life. :) Daniel > > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote: >> William Walker wrote: >> >>> The mics on the Q3, seem to be hyper sensitive in the high frequencies, a bit sizzly sounding. >> >> Try putting some tissue paper in front of the mics as an acoustic filter. >> It's a technique often used for harsh monitor speakers, >> so the physics of it should work for mics too. >> >> andy > Wow, this takes me back to the days of hanging toilet paper over the tweeters of the > Yamaha NS-10Ms to prevent listener fatigue in long sessions. Thanks for the memory, Andy! > > The Yamahas were used to simulate what a crappy car speaker would sound like. We'd take our mixes, > run 'em in mono and then dupe to cassette and play them through the NS-10Ms to make sure > our shit was radio friendly. In those days it was huge JBL systems and the 10Ms. > > I was so fanatical in those days. I'd run mixes through a good car stereo, a crap car stereo, an expensive boom box, a crap boombox, > a hi fi stereo system and a crap stereo system to make sure that the mixes sounded as best as they could for everyone. > > I used that technique so many times that I could hear any studio monitoring system in town and be able to tell what a mix would sound like > on all of those systems. > > ****** > Sorry you got me reminiscing but speaking of using toilet paper in studios: > > We'd take four layers of toilet paper > and drape them over a couple of inches of the edge of the snare drum batter head, too, to reduce the ring of the drum without affecting > it's liveliness. The attack would throw the toilet paper up and then it would fall immediately to > gently gate the high ring of the drum. ............good old toilet paper! > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 25 23:14:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1FC95183463; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 23:14:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020208.4E2DF8EB.00E7,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=gWJ3tSwlVG9+9Bc0QwsTfgzr7y6rw8iGroUsY2aLSe8= c=1 sm=1 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:17 a=u7m2hDla1vEXoai9PZQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Clayton Gary Lehmann" To: References: Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 16:14:42 -0700 Message-ID: <93EC2B7F628444A0841C9F342DD75490@your0548c161e1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: thread-index: AcxIm2rq0iYv9/F/S/ONjKTS/2QsowAs3wr8AHRQ2iA= X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111055 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 23:14:54 +0000 (UTC) I just got off the phone with Mike Nelson at Boomerang and he confirmed they have in stock and are shipping the Sidecar, a proprietary foot controller for the Boomerang III. I didn't ask him how much, but IIRC it's somewhere around $400 list. Of course, he can't discount it without pissing off his vendors, but give him a call and see what he can do for you. Gnarly From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 26 00:58:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54646183462; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 00:58:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <6139D06B-683A-476B-AAE7-744241655FE1@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: New Moog Lap Steel Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 17:57:57 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111056 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 00:58:05 +0000 (UTC) Hey Rick thanks for the lovely words and encouragement, and nepotism is ok by me :-) Andy i'll try the tissue trick, and come to think of it I have a wind screen for it that I don't always use, i assume that would have a similar effect, no? Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 26 01:07:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 772CA183463; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 01:07:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Hv23JoZvSPyDXodaQCEf16EPTnxROorONkaOFuLktNU=; b=q0EEFECFApetmXzhrR7hM+Ttqf+Id+v747pm6SeKUYltwnhstAIYFigJIvMQvaRXjX EdHujlV1QTEq5sMk1MEMrrGkdtUQ6Rc0+vNeNoYwHnqE2ptVsx6L36dKHC2jAXkatSJ5 1dphBTz/Y5uH8ip/6e7TpzURsMUZ2QUmCdyWE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <93EC2B7F628444A0841C9F342DD75490@your0548c161e1> References: <93EC2B7F628444A0841C9F342DD75490@your0548c161e1> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 03:07:23 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Boomerang Sidecar From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <4F0hSC.A.-DH.MNhLOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111057 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 01:07:24 +0000 (UTC) I wonder if Mike has any plans to release a "rang 4" (the size of the plus) with more switches to keep it all in one though the rang 3 is still cool because you can choose to expand it for certain gig situations with the side car, or keep it simple and compact cheers Luis On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:14 AM, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote: > I just got off the phone with Mike Nelson at Boomerang and he confirmed they > have in stock and are shipping the Sidecar, a proprietary foot controller > for the Boomerang III. I didn't ask him how much, but IIRC it's somewhere > around $400 list. > Of course, he can't discount it without pissing off his vendors, but give > him a call and see what he can do for you. > Gnarly > > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 26 01:52:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C7085183464; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 01:52:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 260895.71207.bm@omp1002.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1311645131; bh=LMifu2aAZLDw5VD7glicM1O0Vbq4Bv8CsfqjEr63RLY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=O06Z0C8FEAq8NoQUjPMMiAmWlWHH/tdYALblJBBV2LL3SHL9zcNfSmK5CqNvsnRoU/u1rUEcV4Ha6LFsh24FLB8/70p/hm360CYLk1YcKBKsjE1ZYYT9iqcMYnsHvTLukY83rBSRkKbAc4s+kkARr/XOL7kjgxhODh3/W/OZLhA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AY45JvL/t2+xXWhDFa355ymoBOCx4yrC3WPstMuS13HbvVAUFZwSuW3zbyOPEsB/HEZTen1S8CPIgnmF5T3LQhQ57nUIO/HHSzT7W2CZBp/VUeLkGZcILPkIrkBJqT+nSG26acsve0nMuAN2+i9Js6N8mSEjVGf2QjGDp0W1W2w=; X-YMail-OSG: D1JbGFEVM1mczNWeNId_rsFZFqfmQ00bEzMFQdb8d4KElgJ 84oBpyLSl8TeXEz6XjZw3L.XdQHarDeenwDPKvs1kHWtMWDTSpeMsEUliFGH Z1__XjdldjatcKfsBIrqKrjkjwN66zOJCU.QWrpKLXFkIzSIqAEfyHxnjegZ WkiBrM4VPtVUEdPLzvQ8lI0qNYVkNcBCOKeGyawv8gmkw.5DeC5y7HgBAfkE Nu0mT34zry5u7DW6.HWuskFbp4ucHwdC47NpK55bx4ccEYpm6gKP8ZlXQhxG W6kHmGB1ymDgYU66JgFQVEbzFoJYbVu_fZFkj4jO3riJWQ0mUbFRvamZ6tMF TYPKx6fYkbVyO.b3CZi8LaVqJT4Y.uqlevbxJHejPa7Pkci3MJYd8b2htq8n Itb2_YvYKgST9Xw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.112.310352 Message-ID: <1311645131.86912.YahooMailClassic@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 18:52:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <93EC2B7F628444A0841C9F342DD75490@your0548c161e1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2113152618-1311645131=:86912" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111058 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 01:52:13 +0000 (UTC) --0-2113152618-1311645131=:86912 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii $400!? That's almost as much as the Boomerang! --- On Mon, 7/25/11, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote: From: Clayton Gary Lehmann Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 7:14 PM I just got off the phone with Mike Nelson at Boomerang and he confirmed they have in stock and are shipping the Sidecar, a proprietary foot controller for the Boomerang III. I didn't ask him how much, but IIRC it's somewhere around $400 list. Of course, he can't discount it without pissing off his vendors, but give him a call and see what he can do for you. Gnarly --0-2113152618-1311645131=:86912 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
$400!? That's almost as much as the Boomerang!

--- On Mon, 7/25/11, Clayton Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net> wrote:

From: Clayton Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net>
Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 7:14 PM

I just got off the phone with Mike Nelson at Boomerang and he confirmed they
have in stock and are shipping the Sidecar, a proprietary foot controller
for the Boomerang III. I didn't ask him how much, but IIRC it's somewhere
around $400 list.
Of course, he can't discount it without pissing off his vendors, but give
him a call and see what he can do for you.
Gnarly

--0-2113152618-1311645131=:86912-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 26 01:55:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7503D183464; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 01:55:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_FcI4WUgISktDJG2L+zyGLA)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-07-25_07:2011-07-25,2011-07-25,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1107250272 Message-id: <74DFBF9A9B8143D1A7D8F1F47081DFB9@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <1311645131.86912.YahooMailClassic@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Boomerang Sidecar Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 18:55:42 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111059 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 01:55:46 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_FcI4WUgISktDJG2L+zyGLA) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT A clever way to limit sales. t ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Richards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 6:52 PM Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar $400!? That's almost as much as the Boomerang! --- On Mon, 7/25/11, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote: From: Clayton Gary Lehmann Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 7:14 PM I just got off the phone with Mike Nelson at Boomerang and he confirmed they have in stock and are shipping the Sidecar, a proprietary foot controller for the Boomerang III. I didn't ask him how much, but IIRC it's somewhere around $400 list. Of course, he can't discount it without pissing off his vendors, but give him a call and see what he can do for you. Gnarly --Boundary_(ID_FcI4WUgISktDJG2L+zyGLA) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
A clever way to limit sales.
 
t
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 6:52 PM
Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar

$400!? That's almost as much as the Boomerang!

--- On Mon, 7/25/11, Clayton Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net> wrote:

From: Clayton Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net>
Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 7:14 PM

I just got off the phone with Mike Nelson at Boomerang and he confirmed they
have in stock and are shipping the Sidecar, a proprietary foot controller
for the Boomerang III. I didn't ask him how much, but IIRC it's somewhere
around $400 list.
Of course, he can't discount it without pissing off his vendors, but give
him a call and see what he can do for you.
Gnarly

--Boundary_(ID_FcI4WUgISktDJG2L+zyGLA)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 26 02:23:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E65B18345F; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 02:23:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020204.4E2E2509.0046,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=gwTiOT61Xd0XFiSJM2u1PQdwoLISfHcFsGgKvUuxCVw= c=1 sm=1 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:17 a=n-kJSqksAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=7epPeoFVAg8rGTWjdJYA:9 a=kU7Rw8ge-dKtIa9PNeMA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=98jSFH7WqmUA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=ftXmDSYeyvCPF3UVbgQA:9 a=n12LPN_RVSt9BlWhXUoA:7 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Clayton Gary Lehmann" To: References: <1311645131.86912.YahooMailClassic@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <74DFBF9A9B8143D1A7D8F1F47081DFB9@NORBY11> Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 19:22:55 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008D_01CC4B00.41706570" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <74DFBF9A9B8143D1A7D8F1F47081DFB9@NORBY11> thread-index: AcxLNyVrPFzLhOU5QxaWYuqSnW0fiQAA7Nsg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111060 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 02:23:07 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008D_01CC4B00.41706570 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Don't quote me, I am not sure, it could be $299. Oh hell, call him and find out. G _____ From: Toby G [mailto:carpet8@mac.com] Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 6:56 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang Sidecar A clever way to limit sales. t ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Richards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 6:52 PM Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar $400!? That's almost as much as the Boomerang! --- On Mon, 7/25/11, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote: From: Clayton Gary Lehmann Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 7:14 PM I just got off the phone with Mike Nelson at Boomerang and he confirmed they have in stock and are shipping the Sidecar, a proprietary foot controller for the Boomerang III. I didn't ask him how much, but IIRC it's somewhere around $400 list. Of course, he can't discount it without pissing off his vendors, but give him a call and see what he can do for you. Gnarly ------=_NextPart_000_008D_01CC4B00.41706570 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Don’t quote me, I am not = sure, it could be $299.

Oh hell, call him and find = out.

G

 

From: Toby = G [mailto:carpet8@mac.com]
Sent: Monday, July 25, = 2011 6:56 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Boomerang = Sidecar

 

A clever way to limit = sales.

 

t

=

----- Original Message ----- =

Sent: Monday, = July 25, 2011 6:52 PM

Subject: RE: = Boomerang Sidecar

 

$400!? That's almost as much as the = Boomerang!

--- On Mon, 7/25/11, Clayton Gary = Lehmann <hqr@cox.net> wrote:


From: Clayton Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net>
Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 7:14 PM

I just got = off the phone with Mike Nelson at Boomerang and he confirmed they
have in stock and are shipping the Sidecar, a proprietary foot = controller
for the Boomerang III. I didn't ask him how much, but IIRC it's = somewhere
around $400 list.
Of course, he can't discount it without pissing off his vendors, but = give
him a call and see what he can do for you.
Gnarly

 

------=_NextPart_000_008D_01CC4B00.41706570-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 26 03:20:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37703183473; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 03:20:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=CdayEPueczzBnvakIYd9rYMiHn3GIHQyIrHPwySmYNU=; b=jtNzUGEhilHRnJOHdgmYyNspaQqhH1wgdbVXG1ECk6m9RkYYEPmbWsu7/Bi4+OKPWF zl2n+YCkr6ObtuuAgoE4nUfYblZ/H0krUONp55SxNn2oltHnb3C7UM+SiHNG0cbLGiQc FycxvrbAr8K/6W0JkiT57v6e+irZSSmT/dV2Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1311645131.86912.YahooMailClassic@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <74DFBF9A9B8143D1A7D8F1F47081DFB9@NORBY11> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 23:20:44 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Boomerang Sidecar From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30780c68cad55e04a8f06ab1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111061 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 03:20:45 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30780c68cad55e04a8f06ab1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.loopersparadise.de/en/pro.php?p=3D544 is the only place I find i= t online which makes it after conversion about $380! Yikes! >A clever way to limit sales. indeed :) j On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote: > ** > > Don=92t quote me, I am not sure, it could be $299.**** > > Oh hell, call him and find out.**** > > G**** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Toby G [mailto:carpet8@mac.com] > *Sent:* Monday, July 25, 2011 6:56 PM > *To:* **Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com** > *Subject:* Re: Boomerang Sidecar**** > > ** ** > > A clever way to limit sales.**** > > **** > > t**** > > ----- Original Message ----- **** > > *From:* Paul Richards **** > > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com **** > > *Sent:* Monday, July 25, 2011 6:52 PM**** > > *Subject:* RE: Boomerang Sidecar**** > > ** ** > > $400!? That's almost as much as the Boomerang! > > --- On *Mon, 7/25/11, Clayton Gary Lehmann * wrote:**** > > > From: Clayton Gary Lehmann > Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 7:14 PM**** > > I just got off the phone with Mike Nelson at Boomerang and he confirmed > they > have in stock and are shipping the Sidecar, a proprietary foot controller > for the Boomerang III. I didn't ask him how much, but IIRC it's somewhere > around $400 list. > Of course, he can't discount it without pissing off his vendors, but give > him a call and see what he can do for you. > Gnarly**** > > ** ** > > --20cf30780c68cad55e04a8f06ab1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.loo= persparadise.de/en/pro.php?p=3D544 is the only place I find it online w= hich makes it after conversion about $380! Yikes!

>A c= lever way to limit sales.

indeed :)

j

On M= on, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Clayton Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net> wrote:

Don=92t quote = me, I am not sure, it could be $299.

Oh hell, call = him and find out.

G

=A0<= /u>

From: Toby G [mailto:carpet8@mac.co= m]
Sent: Monday, July 25, 201= 1 6:56 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@l= oopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Boomerang Sid= ecar

=A0

A clever way to limit sales.=

=A0

t

----- Original Message -----

Sent:<= /b> Monday, July 25, 2011 6:52 PM

Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar

=A0

$400!? That's almost as much as the Boomerang!=

--- On Mon, 7/25/11, Clayton Gary L= ehmann <hqr@cox.net> wrote:


From: Clayton Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net>
Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 7:14 PM

I just got off the phone with Mike Nelson at Boomerang and he confirmed they
have in stock and are shipping the Sidecar, a proprietary foot controller=
for the Boomerang III. I didn't ask him how much, but IIRC it's s= omewhere
around $400 list.
Of course, he can't discount it without pissing off his vendors, but = give
him a call and see what he can do for you.
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--20cf30780c68cad55e04a8f06ab1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 26 05:40:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0BC58183466; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 05:40:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A02020A.4E2E5344.004B,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=gWJ3tSwlVG9+9Bc0QwsTfgzr7y6rw8iGroUsY2aLSe8= c=1 sm=1 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:17 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=Cj7LrtU1AAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=n-kJSqksAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=YSAa0iPEGEXrxCp4XoAA:9 a=e_yfYATwV1C9x80-WA4A:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=fc3WdHbWNAoA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=98jSFH7WqmUA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=9whEqn2KLXyiKHFCeSUA:9 a=vpmthPRBQ7Tu9u77JcQA:7 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Clayton Gary Lehmann" To: References: <1311645131.86912.YahooMailClassic@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com><74DFBF9A9B8143D1A7D8F1F47081DFB9@NORBY11> Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 22:40:09 -0700 Message-ID: <94269848ACFE4FBCAA9773812AB2E1CF@your0548c161e1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01CC4B1B.CF4B71D0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcxLQwek60TveoPdSNSq/VM1sXSVhgAEhqEg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Resent-Message-ID: <9wx_FB.A.f3B.FNlLOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111062 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 05:40:21 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01CC4B1B.CF4B71D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh well, maybe my first guess was correct. All I know is, I have not yet received my 'Rang (should be here on Wednesday)- But I am certain it's better to operate it where you can turn knobs and push buttons, and that mean having an additional foot controller (it is not MIDI) would be indicated. Four independent loops, one of which can be the master-or not, freestyle for the more adventurous. Here's a question, it has a total loop time of 17 min 32 sec at 24K in mono. So that means four loops=4 min 24 sec each? If the master loop is only 4 bars long, the total time is longer? Guess I am gonna find out soon enough. Ta, G _____ From: Jeff Duke [mailto:jeffloops@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 8:21 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang Sidecar http://www.loopersparadise.de/en/pro.php?p=544 is the only place I find it online which makes it after conversion about $380! Yikes! >A clever way to limit sales. indeed :) j On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote: Don't quote me, I am not sure, it could be $299. Oh hell, call him and find out. G _____ From: Toby G [mailto:carpet8@mac.com] Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 6:56 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang Sidecar A clever way to limit sales. t ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Richards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 6:52 PM Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar $400!? That's almost as much as the Boomerang! --- On Mon, 7/25/11, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote: From: Clayton Gary Lehmann Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 7:14 PM I just got off the phone with Mike Nelson at Boomerang and he confirmed they have in stock and are shipping the Sidecar, a proprietary foot controller for the Boomerang III. I didn't ask him how much, but IIRC it's somewhere around $400 list. Of course, he can't discount it without pissing off his vendors, but give him a call and see what he can do for you. Gnarly ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01CC4B1B.CF4B71D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Oh well, maybe my first guess was = correct.

All I know is, I have not yet = received my ‘Rang (should be here on Wednesday)—

But I am certain it’s better = to operate it where you can turn knobs and push buttons, and that mean having an additional foot controller (it is not MIDI) would be = indicated.

Four independent loops, one of = which can be the master—or not, freestyle for the more = adventurous.

Here’s a question, it has a = total loop time of 17 min 32 sec at 24K in mono. So that means four loops=3D4 = min 24 sec each?

If the master loop is only 4 bars = long, the total time is longer?

Guess I am gonna find out soon = enough.

Ta,

G

From: Jeff = Duke [mailto:jeffloops@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, July 25, = 2011 8:21 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Boomerang = Sidecar

 

http://www.loop= ersparadise.de/en/pro.php?p=3D544 is the only place I find it online which makes it after conversion about = $380! Yikes!

>A clever way to limit sales.

indeed :)

j

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Clayton Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net> = wrote:

Don’t quote me, I am not sure, it could be = $299.

Oh hell, call him and find out.

G

 

From: Toby G [mailto:carpet8@mac.com]
Sent: Monday, July 25, = 2011 6:56 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Boomerang = Sidecar

 

A clever way to limit sales.

 

t

----- Original Message -----

From: Paul Richards =

Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 6:52 = PM

Subject: RE: Boomerang = Sidecar

 

$400!? That's almost as much as the Boomerang!

--- On Mon, 7/25/11, Clayton Gary = Lehmann <hqr@cox.net> wrote:


From: Clayton Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net>
Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 7:14 PM

I = just got off the phone with Mike Nelson at Boomerang and he confirmed they
have in stock and are shipping the Sidecar, a proprietary foot = controller
for the Boomerang III. I didn't ask him how much, but IIRC it's = somewhere
around $400 list.
Of course, he can't discount it without pissing off his vendors, but = give
him a call and see what he can do for you.
Gnarly

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_0006_01CC4B1B.CF4B71D0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 26 07:22:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8DDD183464; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 07:22:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 642138816/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.19.186/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.19.186 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvcBABFrLk5YbRO6/2dsb2JhbAAMKQEBBAEpFUYGDAwaAgUiCwICCQMCAQIBAlElAYROk3CZCLBekUGBK4QGgQ8El2qLaQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.67,268,1309734000"; d="scan'208";a="642138816" Message-ID: <4E2E6B5C.4040604@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 08:23:08 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: rocktron midimate foot controler / Yamaha MFC10 References: <063901cc4b13$4b108f20$e131ad60$@clubcapelli.com> In-Reply-To: <063901cc4b13$4b108f20$e131ad60$@clubcapelli.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111063 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 07:22:59 +0000 (UTC) > I've better choose the smaller one YAMAHA MFC10. Beware it has a latency of 70mS or so. (confirmed by Yamaha tech support UK) This means the timing isn't accurate enough for rhythmic loops. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 26 08:32:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A55A18345D; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 08:32:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 648795531/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.19.186/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.19.186 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvYBAGd6Lk5YbRO6/2dsb2JhbAAMKQEBBAE+RgYMDCEiDwkDAgECAQJRJQGYPpkIwjmGQASXaotp X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.67,268,1309734000"; d="scan'208";a="648795531" Message-ID: <4E2E7BB0.4010407@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 09:32:48 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Moog Lap Steel References: <6139D06B-683A-476B-AAE7-744241655FE1@baymoon.com> In-Reply-To: <6139D06B-683A-476B-AAE7-744241655FE1@baymoon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111064 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 08:32:31 +0000 (UTC) William Walker wrote: > Andy i'll try the tissue trick, and come to think of it I have a wind > screen for it that I don't always use, i assume that would have a > similar effect, no? > Bill Yep, wouldn't hurt to try the windshield. It also occurs to me that you're probably playing back on the same speakers (and same room) that you recorded in. That's going to multiply any unevenness in the sound, and might make it seem like you have a problem when you don't. Listening here on the big speakers a few of the moog sus tones are a bit screechy (only those really high harmonics), but otherwise those recordings just sound fulsome. Interestingly, playback on studio monitors with no visuals gave me a real impression of being there in the room with you. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 26 11:56:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EFC3A183463; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:56:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:49:44 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" Message-ID: <20110726114944.117320@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Android phone OK for music/looping? To: "LD LoopersDelight" X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX180bedql900IeO+2Re9Ckmt5h/deiAVRZSqvLNn46 ujhVOPJRKwsBVCqIAi38EiHhDiPaJAOQI1Xg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: 654cf+AFIydmaYx+j2Zr//1Sa2FkZlXE Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111065 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:56:25 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks I'm planning on buying an Android phone. Generally, I'd prefer it to an iPhone (microSD, transparent/open, accessible file system). However, I'm not sure if the Android will be ok for music/looping. I just need some basic looping (long loop, overdubs, able to save it), basic music notation (abc notation or Lilypond) and some simple things (mp3 voice recorder, tuner, metronome etc.). Should I be ok with an Android for basic stuff (no gimmicks) or is there simply no alternative for a musician to an iPhone? best regards Buzap -- NEU: FreePhone - 0ct/min Handyspartarif mit Geld-zurück-Garantie! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 26 12:16:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F1949183460; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:16:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E2EB00A.1040206@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 05:16:10 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Emily Wells: Live Looper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111066 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:16:14 +0000 (UTC) Thanks to a last minute Facebook tip from singer/songwriter/live looper Goh Nakamua, I went to the Crepe Place and caught Emily Wells' set. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNWto4xiCcw Man, she's amazing! She writes really compelling songs, plays beautiful violin and doubles on keyboards, melodica, drums and guitar. Her looping is flawless and she has an amazing sound. There is beauty and funk and soul and pathos in the music and I had a lot of fun dancing to a lot of it as well. One of the bartenders at the Crepe Place told me she had seen many amazing shows there but that she thought this was the single best set she'd seen. I'm inclined to agree. Literally, one of the very best live looping shows I've ever seen. I'm a huge fan! Check her out! She's a very sweet human being on top of it all. Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 26 12:38:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D183183461; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:38:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 779713.82231.bm@omp1006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1311683921; bh=dmwqPmi8oEgh6OMqfXt2YW+0uioTKHQh534JJ3iQhv4=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Z4T1a7FIVBaaXjIUKzv4jMiluV09rO+SjXzcO0hpEj5VwA7F8VxeELBGucdms8ME3f7xJVfC0iISRM+NFI5hieisne6WG/cCleU2HuOKki3QVmqklVxezlMoMVwYsbe+FwJL5kT3EoMEZbaIe0U52YZaG16XRy1los81VT2Sv/c= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FOrNiC2zL0fUbQcM7DSoEWJeRMFH4QWm/Lc+azplUVfW56r58XEGs6KRPJZPeG5uqckgUm3Mto+43fKBMGcQyfATlHDuuuTQ5P/UfFVQCC+a9TtcsXFhozmOmk2Lr+3X33XHA8WujEIncvbL3lDuPaTOhImRd6FA+CS48H6XR20=; X-YMail-OSG: vNw34poVM1ky18PIBsZJEzhqY5HlcOMoOJ.LPM56L5Xtm7D H3hRfWurZJJ5yXnLw.UIrS6WmS28IK8xoGtb7PWz_XHiZE6LcI6K_y3gTDAD VCeToiEaeNRkjDvjG67CvvCy3QMXdaMcDEz50b5ZMCVIZ4FZQ.Ps9_7kc57h 5QSRLWaHlV2PDH2A0a85KkTZqxLJ0z_r9U.rXtCKd4lw59peatsUg9HKSQ0c M67RJQulpRdLlgyOHksQvOIHlqcCCyHRsjlYz9PpHUfn0AkYyvfUTsrblyaa oX6ZHL_l4g5aEoTbFhmFKim7lok5C8.JihCW.1ZI2xRC5TK7thzPmE1neHKm NH9vCEAPu.TfBI3RJ_MI2LPgsqbgWRzud4yjle_J0iZdT_261nNn2HrI8SWK PXqbEZMyLeWuljd7TtEFWQiObP7o5d5PNLMjCW5QWv6ZZPe_gwLvtSGvW3wv NtHcIuxYCj.gG2v8HxOoG6DfPcDd037LiCbto_1rVtpbNKckD80iSYqPrSYt VPMMPlTI7w6u7uzyYrZIeXbt7.JguVMALuC8F07mzh2k.ze1E9zSW5xRa1Ne B68I6HTYbeThZOYiqadSdbgmk5X_VkXXvlwfs0R8- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.112.310352 Message-ID: <1311683921.81655.YahooMailClassic@web36701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 05:38:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: Boomerang Sidecar To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1399442679-1311683921=:81655" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111067 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:38:43 +0000 (UTC) --0-1399442679-1311683921=:81655 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The price point is way too high. I'd say $200 would be high but at least ac= ceptable. No f'ing way would I blow $400 bucks on it. I'd rather pick up an= LP-2. =C2=A0 Paul --- On Mon, 7/25/11, Jeff Duke wrote: From: Jeff Duke Subject: Re: Boomerang Sidecar To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 11:20 PM http://www.loopersparadise.de/en/pro.php?p=3D544 is the only place I find i= t online which makes it after conversion about $380! Yikes!=20 >A clever way to limit sales. indeed :) j On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote: Don=E2=80=99t quote me, I am not sure, it could be $299. Oh hell, call him and find out. G =C2=A0 From: Toby G [mailto:carpet8@mac.com]=20 Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 6:56 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang Sidecar =C2=A0 A clever way to limit sales. =C2=A0 t ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Paul Richards=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 6:52 PM Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar =C2=A0 $400!? That's almost as much as the Boomerang! --- On Mon, 7/25/11, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote: From: Clayton Gary Lehmann Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 7:14 PM I just got off the phone with Mike Nelson at Boomerang and he confirmed the= y have in stock and are shipping the Sidecar, a proprietary foot controller for the Boomerang III. I didn't ask him how much, but IIRC it's somewhere around $400 list. Of course, he can't discount it without pissing off his vendors, but give him a call and see what he can do for you. Gnarly =C2=A0 --0-1399442679-1311683921=:81655 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --0-1399442679-1311683921=:81655-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 26 12:42:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92007183473; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:42:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=afz9BsR5FFM9Z1ipfaqfLUFgIcgx6YfWS5GnmLgtlpEp1iR3OcMdYeMEHF6RLLsW; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20110726114944.117320@gmx.net> References: <20110726114944.117320@gmx.net> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 08:42:16 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Android phone OK for music/looping? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79343c7a63247cca57fabcd68a791cb50b350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111068 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:42:51 +0000 (UTC) I bought an iPod touch 4th generation. It has the=20 same processor and screen as the iPhone 4, and it=20 runs all the apps, has wi-fi (web, email,=20 location apps etc). Most importantly it never=20 rings while I'm looping. I use a very=20 inexpensive phone for voice communication. >Hi folks > >I'm planning on buying an Android phone.=20 >Generally, I'd prefer it to an iPhone (microSD,=20 >transparent/open, accessible file system). >However, I'm not sure if the Android will be ok=20 >for music/looping. I just need some basic=20 >looping (long loop, overdubs, able to save it),=20 >basic music notation (abc notation or Lilypond)=20 >and some simple things (mp3 voice recorder,=20 >tuner, metronome etc.). >Should I be ok with an Android for basic stuff=20 >(no gimmicks) or is there simply no alternative=20 >for a musician to an iPhone? > >best regards >Buzap > >-- >NEU: FreePhone - 0ct/min Handyspartarif mit Geld-zur=FCck-Garantie! >Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone -- =2E.. http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 26 12:49:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37031183463; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:49:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3flxX1y1n0dzK4BNiOC3Ak+ONqHWAXMt5P0YoVRFlvU=; b=E21+Pj7Spt09OyEj25CkoHjrMNLnMX1wXM/ys7y3q2GCvo/cbHrGKIYfjg6P2D8TvL 6JPPvSVZWrc/J1TZmYn9M2mu5JgMJthpoDF8hnkNuljYderX8uVJMmxJ3XOVtqdQ+Ylo 5V8x/e6taM0BQdHzUOqZZNGdBA9asJGI1YHbA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E2E6B5C.4040604@tiscali.co.uk> References: <063901cc4b13$4b108f20$e131ad60$@clubcapelli.com> <4E2E6B5C.4040604@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:49:26 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: rocktron midimate foot controler / Yamaha MFC10 From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111069 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:49:27 +0000 (UTC) didnt want to dissapoint you either Marc but i had long long ago and didnt like it at all the latency is terrible and didnt work for my EDP anyway but if ti works for what u want to do do it! Luis On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:23 AM, andy butler wrote= : >> =A0I've better choose the smaller one YAMAHA MFC10. > > Beware it has a latency of 70mS or so. > (confirmed by Yamaha tech support UK) > > This means the timing isn't accurate enough for rhythmic loops. > > andy > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 26 12:57:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92D55183477; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:57:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=L9xz5qa2cFtg2xwCrChKuF5e+Apk/InFtxciFc9/t9s=; b=qjGkmYGTVLgINVVuhJiEAm+JVy3uWe9CFXzdmdg5qBsy2G3p8udL7xdByrytD36lR7 MRARGHCg6mXyFomaqQ90IvFz1hO/BgmS7sAqUvTx9DOh9nlJ3pgWqgoJg4rAvE9vKQ7M NEl0uc23ukYcZllBm9bnno08FiatPYHns7FwM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E2EB00A.1040206@cruzio.com> References: <4E2EB00A.1040206@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:57:41 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Emily Wells: Live Looper From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111070 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:57:42 +0000 (UTC) hey but shes using a drumbox i thought that was a sin here!;-)) i wonder where thats coming from though,it looks like a groovebox on the table synced to her looper,though it could also b coming from one of those Boss RC loopers? love it thanx for the link bro shes awesome! cheerios Luis On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > > Thanks to a last minute Facebook tip from singer/songwriter/live looper G= oh > Nakamua, > I went to the Crepe Place and caught Emily Wells' set. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DwNWto4xiCcw > > Man, =A0 she's amazing! =A0 =A0She writes really compelling songs, =A0pla= ys > beautiful violin and doubles > on keyboards, melodica, drums and guitar. =A0 =A0 =A0Her looping is flawl= ess and > she has an amazing > sound. =A0 =A0 There is beauty and funk and soul and pathos in the music = and I > had a lot of fun dancing to a lot of it > as well. =A0 =A0One of the bartenders at the Crepe Place told me she had = seen > many amazing shows there but that > she thought this was the single best set she'd seen. =A0 I'm inclined to > agree. > > Literally, one of the very best live looping shows I've ever seen. =A0 I'= m a > huge fan! > Check her out! =A0 =A0 She's a very sweet human being on top of it all. > > Rick Walker > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 26 14:38:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6BAAB183464; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:38:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=OXcz2yNSVS5C+buMhPOC7jTCIWEi5dXb6Dj9XpdnlRE=; b=F3sJFfpirP8Glmuy++o1uUnJUoA1pKySAeQCJ+e8dXHly5hH60JvKUgzZj7v+WnWTW 9aFY3eHNy2qPMShOZP+Q4cqG5+MBd92pwjx82/PkXMP4c5AV3YxiQr4h6E8fadizcW7s 2IY6EA85SlV5yCrSAuwcQbRtMwnGsYKpsXA9Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1311683921.81655.YahooMailClassic@web36701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1311683921.81655.YahooMailClassic@web36701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 10:38:05 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Boomerang Sidecar From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec501c58c34d57d04a8f9e1db Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111071 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:38:06 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec501c58c34d57d04a8f9e1db Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable upon further looking, that place also sell the 'Rang III for $870. So I jus= t bet that when MF or Zzounds get's the sidecar (if they do) they would be more like that $200 range...http://www.loopersparadise.de/en/pro.php?p=3D31= 7 j On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Paul Richards wrote: > The price point is way too high. I'd say $200 would be high but at least > acceptable. No f'ing way would I blow $400 bucks on it. I'd rather pick u= p > an LP-2. > > Paul > > --- On *Mon, 7/25/11, Jeff Duke * wrote: > > > From: Jeff Duke > Subject: Re: Boomerang Sidecar > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 11:20 PM > > http://www.loopersparadise.de/en/pro.php?p=3D544 is the only place I find= it > online which makes it after conversion about $380! Yikes! > > >A clever way to limit sales. > > indeed :) > > j > > On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Clayton Gary Lehmann > > wrote: > > ** > > Don=92t quote me, I am not sure, it could be $299.**** > > Oh hell, call him and find out.**** > > G**** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Toby G [mailto:carpet8@mac.com] > > *Sent:* Monday, July 25, 2011 6:56 PM > *To:* **Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > ** > *Subject:* Re: Boomerang Sidecar**** > > ** ** > > A clever way to limit sales.**** > > **** > > t**** > > ----- Original Message ----- **** > > *From:* Paul Richards > **** > > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > **** > > *Sent:* Monday, July 25, 2011 6:52 PM**** > > *Subject:* RE: Boomerang Sidecar**** > > ** ** > > $400!? That's almost as much as the Boomerang! > > --- On *Mon, 7/25/11, Clayton Gary Lehmann > >* wrote:**** > > > From: Clayton Gary Lehmann > > > Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 7:14 PM**** > > I just got off the phone with Mike Nelson at Boomerang and he confirmed > they > have in stock and are shipping the Sidecar, a proprietary foot controller > for the Boomerang III. I didn't ask him how much, but IIRC it's somewhere > around $400 list. > Of course, he can't discount it without pissing off his vendors, but give > him a call and see what he can do for you. > Gnarly**** > > ** ** > > > --bcaec501c58c34d57d04a8f9e1db Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable upon further looking, that place also sell the 'Rang III for $870. So I= just bet that when MF or Zzounds get's the sidecar (if they do) they w= ould be more like that $200 range...http://www.loopersparadise.de/en/pro.php?p=3D317<= br>
j

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Pa= ul Richards <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com> wrote:
The price point is way too high. I'd say= $200 would be high but at least acceptable. No f'ing way would I blow $400= bucks on it. I'd rather pick up an LP-2.
 
Paul

--- On Mon, 7/25/11, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.c= om> wrote:

From: Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com>
Su= bject: Re: Boomerang Sidecar
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
= Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 11:20 PM

http://www.loopersparadise.de/en/pr= o.php?p=3D544 is the only place I find it online which makes it after c= onversion about $380! Yikes!

>A clever way to limit sales.<= BR>
indeed :)

j

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Clay= ton Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net> wrote:

<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Don=E2=80= =99t quote me, I am not sure, it could be $299.=

<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Oh hell, ca= ll him and find out.

<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">G=

<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">&nbs= p;

From:<= /FONT> Toby G [mailto:carpet8@mac.com]
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 6:56 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Boomerang Sidecar=

 

A clever way to limit sales.

 

t

----- Original Message ----- <= U>

= From:= Paul Richards =

Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 6:52 PM

Subject:= RE: Boomerang Sidecar

 

$400!? That's almost as much as the Boomerang= !

--- On Mon, 7/25/11, Clayton = Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net>= wrote:


From: Cla= yton Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net>
Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Mo= nday, July 25, 2011, 7:14 PM

I just got of= f the phone with Mike Nelson at Boomerang and he confirmed they
have in = stock and are shipping the Sidecar, a proprietary foot controller
for th= e Boomerang III. I didn't ask him how much, but IIRC it's somewhere
arou= nd $400 list.
Of course, he can't discount it without pissing off his ve= ndors, but give
him a call and see what he can do for you.
Gnarly<= /U>

 


The price point is way too high. I= 'd say $200 would be high but at least acceptable. No f'ing way wou= ld I blow $400 bucks on it. I'd rather pick up an LP-2.
=A0
Paul

--- On Mon, 7/25/11, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com>= wrote:

From: Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: = Boomerang Sidecar
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 1= 1:20 PM

From: To= by G [mailto:carpet8@mac.com]
Sent: Monday, July 25, 201= 1 6:56 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
Subject: Re: Boomerang Sid= ecar

=A0

A clever way to limit sales.

=A0

t

----- Original Message -----

<= /div>

Sent: Monday= , July 25, 2011 6:52 PM

Subject: RE:= Boomerang Sidecar

=A0

$400!? That's almost as much as the Boomerang!

--- On Mon, 7/25/11, Clayton Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.ne= t> wrote:


From: Clayton Gary Lehmann <= hqr@cox.net>
Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Monday, = July 25, 2011, 7:14 PM

I just got off the phone with Mike Nelson= at Boomerang and he confirmed they
have in stock and are shipping the S= idecar, a proprietary foot controller
for the Boomerang III. I didn't ask him how much, but IIRC it's som= ewhere
around $400 list.
Of course, he can't discount it without = pissing off his vendors, but give
him a call and see what he can do for = you.
Gnarly

=A0



--bcaec501c58c34d57d04a8f9e1db-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 26 16:49:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3204183460; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 16:49:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_pXNhq3KdQQgcmOgKgLJWBQ)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-07-26_05:2011-07-26,2011-07-26,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1107260132 From: Daniel Thomas Subject: Re: New Moog Lap Steel Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 09:49:17 -0700 In-reply-to: <4E2E7BB0.4010407@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <6139D06B-683A-476B-AAE7-744241655FE1@baymoon.com> <4E2E7BB0.4010407@tiscali.co.uk> Message-id: <694A312C-4B06-484E-AD54-10E84934ED2A@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111072 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 16:49:42 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_pXNhq3KdQQgcmOgKgLJWBQ) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > Interestingly, playback on studio monitors with no visuals > gave me a real impression of being there in the room with you The zoom's lil electret condensers actually produce a surprisingly deep image. Also, there is some kind of DSP monkey business going on in that camera that makes it always sound pretty darn presentable. Though I have noticed that upper harmonics are harsh -- strangely, at lower recording levels. If I hit the input a little harder, the overall sound of the unit improves-- some DSP threshold getting invoked? Daniel On Jul 26, 2011, at 1:32 AM, andy butler wrote: > William Walker wrote: > >> Andy i'll try the tissue trick, and come to think of it I have a wind screen for it that I don't always use, i assume that would have a similar effect, no? >> Bill > > Yep, wouldn't hurt to try the windshield. > > It also occurs to me that you're probably playing back > on the same speakers (and same room) that you recorded in. > That's going to multiply any unevenness in the sound, and might make it seem like you have a problem when you don't. > > Listening here on the big speakers a few of the moog sus tones are > a bit screechy (only those really high harmonics), but otherwise > those recordings just sound fulsome. > > Interestingly, playback on studio monitors with no visuals > gave me a real impression of being there in the room with you. > > > andy > --Boundary_(ID_pXNhq3KdQQgcmOgKgLJWBQ) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Interestingly, playback on studio monitors with no = visuals
gave me a real impression of being there in the room = with you

The zoom's lil = electret condensers actually produce a surprisingly deep image. =  Also, there is some kind of DSP monkey business going on in that = camera that makes it always sound pretty darn presentable.   Though = I have noticed that upper harmonics are harsh --  strangely, at = lower recording levels.  If I hit the input a little harder, the = overall sound of the unit improves-- some DSP threshold getting = invoked?
  

Daniel 
On Jul 26, 2011, at 1:32 AM, andy butler wrote:

William= Walker wrote:

Andy i'll try the = tissue trick, and come to think of it I have a wind screen for it that I = don't always use, i assume that would have a similar effect, = no?
= Bill

Yep, wouldn't hurt to try the = windshield.

It also occurs to me that you're probably playing = back
on the same speakers (and same room) that you recorded = in.
That's going to multiply any unevenness in the sound, and might = make it seem like you have a problem when you don't.

Listening = here on the big speakers a few of the moog sus tones are
a bit = screechy (only those really high harmonics), but otherwise
those = recordings just sound fulsome.

Interestingly, playback on studio = monitors with no visuals
gave me a real impression of being there in = the room with = you.


andy


= --Boundary_(ID_pXNhq3KdQQgcmOgKgLJWBQ)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 26 22:43:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 126BA183461; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 22:43:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_7c59fff1-f1f5-413b-bcc2-f598e2ee80e1_" X-Originating-IP: [173.97.1.24] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: Ableton - not saving screen layout? Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 17:43:51 -0500 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jul 2011 22:43:51.0951 (UTC) FILETIME=[7DF209F0:01CC4BE5] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111073 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 22:43:52 +0000 (UTC) --_7c59fff1-f1f5-413b-bcc2-f598e2ee80e1_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable howdy all- ableton is not saving my opened plugins and im wondering if this is normal? meaning every time i open ableton i have to manually open up mobius and any= other plugins i want to look at- normal or no? is there a magic button somewhere to save layout? ty fro The Wandering Madman=20 = --_7c59fff1-f1f5-413b-bcc2-f598e2ee80e1_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
howdy all-

ableton is not saving my opened plugins and im wondering = if this is normal?

meaning every time i open ableton i have to manua= lly open up mobius and any other plugins i want to look at-
normal or no= ? is there a magic button somewhere to save layout?

ty

fro
The= Wandering Madman
= --_7c59fff1-f1f5-413b-bcc2-f598e2ee80e1_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 26 22:54:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 85822183462; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 22:54:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=wpPUWsrX5oCJeV6hzwkzElxrrfmNM4JML50UVfpL5m4=; b=xZMmS1N5mzj4dL1jULQ7sjtEDP5v1e+SJyagUi6YxBeSFvs1QwBiGHK9x94njP1cS2 M4HGIsf75nQkH1omK54kFY+i/MK458A1mhZxsXtCooFpyzhfvcHlVGgkilq4sY3iGMbV RNdVyORxk9sYh1SAxI8VjOudYXQ499AsCzAsU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 00:53:57 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ableton - not saving screen layout? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111074 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 22:54:39 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:43 AM, FRO DIDDLY wrote: > ableton is not saving my opened plugins and im wondering if this is normal? > > meaning every time i open ableton i have to manually open up mobius and any > other plugins i want to look at- > normal or no? i Not normal. > is there a magic button somewhere to save layout? "Yes", sort of. in the preferences you can set up how windows shall behave. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 26 22:54:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA9E3183486; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 22:54:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=iOHF5HRxc3zerSUDIFIxSL2gOrSSP8ounqiMyhy3FZk=; b=H1ATB/oatqgFU/2x08+IAlMBHr7HcUufJjVtet6clYoS16H8lo1Jqxlktd3R1mYzD+ v6pcPcMsKVQULrznsfcFAlTxlqSmHXs5+nzap5bw+H/Jd2T8V/l97P9vGIacMOPfzb7g +NDHM271CuOLuuxt8zRf8eGhd1WTq2hoyn+xw= References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8L1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-553657335 Message-Id: Cc: "" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8L1) From: Todd Reynolds Subject: Re: Ableton - not saving screen layout? Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 18:53:39 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111075 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 22:54:54 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-553657335 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii None whatsoever. Have to open every time I'm afraid. Unless, however, I'm mi= ssing something.=20 Sent from my iPhone On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:43 PM, FRO DIDDLY wrote: > howdy all- >=20 > ableton is not saving my opened plugins and im wondering if this is normal= ? >=20 > meaning every time i open ableton i have to manually open up mobius and an= y other plugins i want to look at- > normal or no? is there a magic button somewhere to save layout? >=20 > ty >=20 > fro >=20 > The Wandering Madman --Apple-Mail-1-553657335 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
None whatsoever. Have to open every time I'm afraid. Unless, however, I'm missing something. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:43 PM, FRO DIDDLY <parispro00@hotmail.com> wrote:

howdy all-

ableton is not saving my opened plugins and im wondering if this is normal?

meaning every time i open ableton i have to manually open up mobius and any other plugins i want to look at-
normal or no? is there a magic button somewhere to save layout?

ty

fro

The Wandering Madman
--Apple-Mail-1-553657335-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 26 23:18:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2AA79183462; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 23:18:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HlDTjqh60oUqJiJMF2mrIrPxSPIgU5Vjo+gjiArJ/Kc=; b=qlaMq+bity/NaC+X+w020u6GEKSizYyPfvdxnq4n6My75PNsjSo6gxdi3SbcwO6LYw kB+TgD7g0HExEZrvtgq2Bromv9qw4t5axRrN4ExZIObNt1oQKeosPuKccfSMwREZd7qq eYgn9oHf1k9XT7VTzndZbeO+O8s95jQbcsJ3A= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 01:18:41 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ableton - not saving screen layout? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111076 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 23:18:41 +0000 (UTC) > On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:43 AM, FRO DIDDLY wro= te: >> ableton is not saving my opened plugins and im wondering if this is norm= al? >> >> meaning every time i open ableton i have to manually open up mobius and = any >> other plugins i want to look at- > > >> normal or no? i > On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:53 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Not normal. > >> is there a magic button somewhere to save layout? > > "Yes", sort of. in the preferences you can set up how windows shall behav= e. Hell=C3=B6 again.... I was busy inside another application and couldn't check it out for you hands-on. But now I did and would like to modify my answer above. As long as you are using Live's own plugin GUI you can set them up as you want. But the universal draw-back with Live is that you can only see so many plugin windows at once as fits into the Detail View window/bar at the bottom. But there is a trick! Live now supports assigning a MIDI event to many targets so you can simply assign the same event you are using to set a parameter inside a plugin also to the Track Bar Title slot. If doing so, this is what happens when you press your button/pedal for whatever-you-wanna-control: At the same time as the targeted parameter's value changes (according to your programming) the track that hosts the plugin is being selected and this means that all of this track's plugin's GUI windows will be displayed at the bottom. In order to make room down there showing more you may want to shrink all other plugins. Third-party plugin's original GUI window's status are not saved with a Live session. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 27 00:07:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7ACA183461; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 00:07:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 20:07:11 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: paul Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar In-Reply-To: <94269848ACFE4FBCAA9773812AB2E1CF@your0548c161e1> References: <1311645131.86912.YahooMailClassic@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <74DFBF9A9B8143D1A7D8F1F47081DFB9@NORBY11> <94269848ACFE4FBCAA9773812AB2E1CF@your0548c161e1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20110727000708.210E214F77@ns4.tnt21.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111077 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 00:07:08 +0000 (UTC) I just paid for a sidecar. The total was $209.00 plus shipping for a total of $241.00. Mike also sent me a couple of pictures and the manual for the sidecar. If anyone is interested send me an email off list and I'll forward the pictures and manual on to you. Hopefully it should be here in a week or two at the most. I'm going on a road trip to Alaska, and Vancouver in Sept. and I hope to be familiar enough with it to use it by then. Paul Haslem Ontario, Canada www.dulcify.ca From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 27 00:23:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D9BE3183462; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 00:23:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=pLPlkKcK38cN4Cv4YkVeTGGRYpmKez/IrX640LVKWnc= c=1 sm=0 a=p_P8It6jP9UA:10 a=bjue6iMc0PxFzCOyRLaH1w==:17 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=Cj7LrtU1AAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=n-kJSqksAAAA:8 a=VdIHrAONAAAA:8 a=eFhddSq3pJ6aqivAAUkA:9 a=RG92oLhL0TVCUQtMXfAA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=fc3WdHbWNAoA:10 a=Dtwwlw1PD4EA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=98jSFH7WqmUA:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=pEkJlIG3vf8lLzjcj24A:9 a=Yg5POBTyXZr44pcypqoA:7 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 a=bjue6iMc0PxFzCOyRLaH1w==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 74.76.199.163 From: "list2" To: References: Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar Price Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 20:23:55 -0400 Message-ID: <2B10FF5B55544E0D9EFFF550708519AB@HAL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01CC4BD1.F15131A0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcxL4EWovOgsX3f+TFCfzj1JVU+UwgABatew In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111078 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 00:23:56 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01CC4BD1.F15131A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just ordered my Sidecar from my local retailer (same place I bought the "Rang III) and my cost will be $230 + tax. They are just ordering the one for me, so bigger outfits that can order larger numbers may get a better price. In other words, YMMV. hoby _____ From: Jeff Duke [mailto:jeffloops@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 10:38 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang Sidecar upon further looking, that place also sell the 'Rang III for $870. So I just bet that when MF or Zzounds get's the sidecar (if they do) they would be more like that $200 range...http://www.loopersparadise.de/en/pro.php?p=317 j On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Paul Richards wrote: The price point is way too high. I'd say $200 would be high but at least acceptable. No f'ing way would I blow $400 bucks on it. I'd rather pick up an LP-2. Paul --- On Mon, 7/25/11, Jeff Duke wrote: From: Jeff Duke Subject: Re: Boomerang Sidecar To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 11:20 PM http://www.loopersparadise.de/en/pro.php?p=544 is the only place I find it online which makes it after conversion about $380! Yikes! >A clever way to limit sales. indeed :) j On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Clayton Gary Lehmann > wrote: Don't quote me, I am not sure, it could be $299. Oh hell, call him and find out. G _____ From: Toby G [mailto:carpet8@mac.com ] Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 6:56 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang Sidecar A clever way to limit sales. t ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Richards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 6:52 PM Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar $400!? That's almost as much as the Boomerang! --- On Mon, 7/25/11, Clayton Gary Lehmann > wrote: From: Clayton Gary Lehmann > Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 7:14 PM I just got off the phone with Mike Nelson at Boomerang and he confirmed they have in stock and are shipping the Sidecar, a proprietary foot controller for the Boomerang III. I didn't ask him how much, but IIRC it's somewhere around $400 list. Of course, he can't discount it without pissing off his vendors, but give him a call and see what he can do for you. Gnarly ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01CC4BD1.F15131A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I just ordered my Sidecar from my = local retailer (same place I bought the “Rang III) and my cost will be = $230 + tax. They are just ordering the one for me, so bigger outfits that can = order larger numbers may get a better price. In other words, = YMMV.

 

hoby

 

From: Jeff = Duke [mailto:jeffloops@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, = 2011 10:38 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Boomerang = Sidecar

 

upon further = looking, that place also sell the 'Rang III for $870. So I just bet that when MF = or Zzounds get's the sidecar (if they do) they would be more like that $200 = range...http://www.loop= ersparadise.de/en/pro.php?p=3D317

j

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Paul Richards <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com> wrote:

The price point is way too high. I'd say = $200 would be high but at least acceptable. No f'ing way would I blow $400 bucks = on it. I'd rather pick up an LP-2.

 

Paul

--- On Mon, 7/25/11, Jeff Duke = <jeffloops@gmail.com> = wrote:


From: Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Boomerang Sidecar
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 11:20 PM

http://www.loopersparadise.de/en/pro.php?p=3D544 is the only place I find it online which makes it after conversion = about $380! Yikes!

>A clever way to limit sales.

indeed :)

j

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Clayton = Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net> = wrote:

Don’t quote me, I am not sure, it = could be $299.

Oh hell, call him and find = out.

G

 

From: Toby G [mailto:carpet8@mac.com]
Sent: Monday, July 25, = 2011 6:56 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Boomerang = Sidecar

 

A clever way to limit sales.

 

t

=

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 = 6:52 PM

Subject: RE: Boomerang = Sidecar

 

$400!? That's almost as much as the Boomerang!

--- On Mon, 7/25/11, Clayton = Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net> wrote: =


From: Clayton Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net>
Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 7:14 PM

I just got off the phone with Mike Nelson = at Boomerang and he confirmed they
have in stock and are shipping the Sidecar, a proprietary foot = controller
for the Boomerang III. I didn't ask him how much, but IIRC it's = somewhere
around $400 list.
Of course, he can't discount it without pissing off his vendors, but = give
him a call and see what he can do for you.
Gnarly

 

 

 

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Will anyone sell me one fo= r $400.00? --- On Tue, 7/26/11, list2 wrote: From: list2 Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar Price To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 5:23 PM I just ordered my Sidecar from my local retailer (same place I bought the = =E2=80=9CRang III) and my cost will be $230 + tax. They are just ordering t= he one for me, so bigger outfits that can order larger numbers may get a be= tter price. In other words, YMMV. =C2=A0 hoby =C2=A0 From: Jeff Duke [mailto:jeffloops@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 10:38 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang Sidecar =C2=A0 upon further looking, that place also sell the 'Rang III for $870. So I jus= t bet that when MF or Zzounds get's the sidecar (if they do) they would be = more like that $200 range...http://www.loopersparadise.de/en/pro.php?p=3D31= 7 j On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Paul Richards wrote: The price point is way too high. I'd say $200 would be high but at least ac= ceptable. No f'ing way would I blow $400 bucks on it. I'd rather pick up an= LP-2. =C2=A0 Paul --- On Mon, 7/25/11, Jeff Duke wrote: From: Jeff Duke Subject: Re: Boomerang Sidecar To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 11:20 PM http://www.loopersparadise.de/en/pro.php?p=3D544 is the only place I find i= t online which makes it after conversion about $380! Yikes!=20 >A clever way to limit sales. indeed :) j On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote: Don=E2=80=99t quote me, I am not sure, it could be $299. Oh hell, call him and find out. G =C2=A0 From: Toby G [mailto:carpet8@mac.com]=20 Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 6:56 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang Sidecar =C2=A0=20 A clever way to limit sales. =C2=A0 t ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Paul Richards=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 6:52 PM Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar =C2=A0 $400!? That's almost as much as the Boomerang! --- On Mon, 7/25/11, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote:=20 From: Clayton Gary Lehmann Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 7:14 PM=20 I just got off the phone with Mike Nelson at Boomerang and he confirmed the= y have in stock and are shipping the Sidecar, a proprietary foot controller for the Boomerang III. I didn't ask him how much, but IIRC it's somewhere around $400 list. Of course, he can't discount it without pissing off his vendors, but give him a call and see what he can do for you. Gnarly =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 --0-1383101622-1311730875=:40499 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= /TABLE>

 

Heck, I was perfectly happy with the $400 pri= ce. Will anyone sell me one for $400.00?

--- On Tue, 7/26/11, lis= t2 <list2@moondogeast.org> wrote:

From: list2 <list2@moondogeast.org>
Subj= ect: RE: Boomerang Sidecar Price
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=
Date: Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 5:23 PM

<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I just orde= red my Sidecar from my local retailer (same place I bought the =E2=80=9CRan= g III) and my cost will be $230 + tax. They are just ordering the one for m= e, so bigger outfits that can order larger numbers may get a better price. = In other words, YMMV.

<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> 

<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">hoby=

<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> 

From:<= /FONT> Jeff Duke [mailto:jeffloops@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 10:38 AM
= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers= -delight.com
Subject: Re= : Boomerang Sidecar

 

upon further = looking, that place also sell the 'Rang III for $870. So I just bet that wh= en MF or Zzounds get's the sidecar (if they do) they would be more like tha= t $200 range...http://www.loopersparadise.de/en/pro.php?p= =3D317

j

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Paul Richard= s <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com> wrote:

=

The price point is way too high. I'd say $200= would be high but at least acceptable. No f'ing way would I blow $400 buck= s on it. I'd rather pick up an LP-2.

 

Paul

--- On Mon, 7/25/11, Jeff Duke &l= t;jeffloops@gmail.com> wrote:


From: Jef= f Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Boomerang Sidecar
= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<= BR>Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 11:20 PM

http://www.loopersparadise.de/en/pro.php?p=3D544 is the only place = I find it online which makes it after conversion about $380! Yikes!
>A clever way to limit sales.

indeed :)
j

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Clayton Gar= y Lehmann <hqr@cox.net> wrote:<= /FONT>

Don=E2=80=99t quote me, I am not sure, = it could be $299.
Oh hell, call him and find out.<= /FONT>
G
 
From: Toby G [ma= ilto:carpet8@mac.com]
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 6:56 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject: Re: Boomerang Sidecar<= /SPAN>
A clever way to limit sales.
t
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July = 25, 2011 6:52 PM
Subject: RE: Boomera= ng Sidecar
Mon, 7/25/11, Clayton Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net><= /SPAN> wrote:


From: Clayton Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net>
Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar
T= o: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 7:14 PM

I just got off the phone with Mike Nelson at = Boomerang and he confirmed they
have in stock and are shipping the Sidec= ar, a proprietary foot controller
for the Boomerang III. I didn't ask hi= m how much, but IIRC it's somewhere
around $400 list.
Of course, he c= an't discount it without pissing off his vendors, but give
him a call an= d see what he can do for you.
Gnarly

 
--0-1383101622-1311730875=:40499-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 27 02:32:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12317183453; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 02:32:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <7F8EEEA6-B342-460C-9BC1-DA10782C1795@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-566786857 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: New Moog Lap Steel Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:32:32 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111080 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 02:32:40 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-566786857 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andy wrote Interestingly, playback on studio monitors with no visuals gave me a real impression of being there in the room with you. well for you to really get the impression of being in the room with me there might need to be some kind of scratch and sniff element to really paint the whole picture:-) I forgot to mention that I was post processing my quantized loops through a TC Fireworx that was doing a combo of stereo delays, stereo delayed octave pitch shifting and very slow stereo panning all synced to the LP-1 so you were definitely hearing movement in the imaging. also I find it interesting that they suggest setting up the mics favoring one side of whatever source you are recording over the other, rather than trying to place the Q-3 exactly centered between them. perhaps as Daniel T suggested there is some digital trickery going on that compensates the two sides of the stereo image. BTW Daniel I really appreciate all the feedback about toilet tissue and spraying techniques Thanks:-) Bill --Apple-Mail-2-566786857 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy wrote
To: Subject: ableton screen layout Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 21:43:57 -0500 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jul 2011 02:43:57.0313 (UTC) FILETIME=[0835D710:01CC4C07] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111081 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 02:43:58 +0000 (UTC) --_fc293ecd-3831-4598-a942-7cd6fcc05b59_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thank you for the replies! and ty for the midi binding idea per=2C i think = i can get that to work how i want it salut The Wandering Madman=20 = --_fc293ecd-3831-4598-a942-7cd6fcc05b59_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable = --_fc293ecd-3831-4598-a942-7cd6fcc05b59_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 27 08:13:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B29A318345E; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 08:13:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 649043419/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.19.186/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.19.186 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgUCAIzHL05YbRO6/2dsb2JhbAAMKQEBBAE+RgYMDCEiDwkDAgECAQJRJQGYM5kDBLRgjTKGQASXbYtr X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.67,275,1309734000"; d="scan'208";a="649043419" Message-ID: <4E2FC89D.3040508@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 09:13:17 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Moog Lap Steel References: <6139D06B-683A-476B-AAE7-744241655FE1@baymoon.com> <4E2E7BB0.4010407@tiscali.co.uk> <694A312C-4B06-484E-AD54-10E84934ED2A@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <694A312C-4B06-484E-AD54-10E84934ED2A@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111082 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 08:13:02 +0000 (UTC) Daniel Thomas wrote: > The zoom's lil electret condensers actually produce a surprisingly deep > image. Also, there is some kind of DSP monkey business going on in that > camera that makes it always sound pretty darn presentable. Though I > have noticed that upper harmonics are harsh -- strangely, at lower > recording levels. If I hit the input a little harder, the overall sound > of the unit improves-- some DSP threshold getting invoked? Hi Daniel, well I only have the H2, but it doesn't have any DSP going on at all. If you're getting harsh sound at low levels on the Q3 my first guess would be that you're using mp3 format for the sound, ....surely not ;-) Guess 2 would be something to do with automatic level compensation, ...worth switching that off if it's on unless it's 100% needed. More likely it'd be something to do with the analog electronics of the unit, unless you were recording so quiet that bit depth is an issue. ..but hey, you got the result you wanted...those Zoom gadgets are great value for money. With the H2 it's essential sometimes to record at low level and then boost in a DAW. When using 24bit format I've found this works well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN6M9I0gUPc (visuals from the Nikon D90 which has a horrible mic) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 27 08:20:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 948C618345E; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 08:20:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GNHKlWf0O/wKGGq5MlgFtrCthTYunpYZPx6GCXOwl6k=; b=W5McQi1lKz7XXDwOmAhJZV5otmj72Q5D1tgzj9biM2r9+qEiNnw/i5PWuWnXZwPdur qwABreCYuUvGWt5nwcictmYkxPcBXlTgE0fMJ7hmaEhvILaGLAzcIAl+5OHASegpeRqE DLWf6KXmsFbKnbr3woORd6e+HIvPCkJXHU6n0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:20:36 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ableton - not saving screen layout? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111083 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 08:20:37 +0000 (UTC) Fro, try going into preferences,then submenu "file folder" insert all your plugins and press "save current set as default" hope it works cheers Luis On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:18 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:43 AM, FRO DIDDLY wr= ote: >>> ableton is not saving my opened plugins and im wondering if this is nor= mal? >>> >>> meaning every time i open ableton i have to manually open up mobius and= any >>> other plugins i want to look at- >> >> >>> normal or no? i >> > On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:53 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> Not normal. >> >>> is there a magic button somewhere to save layout? >> >> "Yes", sort of. in the preferences you can set up how windows shall beha= ve. > > > Hell=F6 again.... I was busy inside another application and couldn't > check it out for you hands-on. But now I did and would like to modify > my answer above. As long as you are using Live's own plugin GUI you > can set them up as you want. But the universal draw-back with Live is > that you can only see so many plugin windows at once as fits into the > Detail View window/bar at the bottom. But there is a trick! Live now > supports assigning a MIDI event to many targets so you can simply > assign the same event you are using to set a parameter inside a plugin > also to the Track Bar Title slot. If doing so, this is what happens > when you press your button/pedal for whatever-you-wanna-control: At > the same time as the targeted parameter's value changes (according to > your programming) the track that hosts the plugin is being selected > and this means that all of this track's plugin's GUI windows will be > displayed at the bottom. In order to make room down there showing more > you may want to shrink all other plugins. > > Third-party plugin's original GUI window's status are not saved with a > Live session. > > Per > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 27 08:43:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 846F218345D; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 08:43:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 649240196/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.19.186/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.19.186 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgUCAHHPL05YbRO6/2dsb2JhbAAMKQEBBAE+RgYMDCEiDwkDAgECAQJRJQGYM5kBwUyGQASXbYtr X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.67,275,1309734000"; d="scan'208";a="649240196" Message-ID: <4E2FCFCE.4090505@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 09:43:58 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Moog Lap Steel- Zoom Recorders References: <7F8EEEA6-B342-460C-9BC1-DA10782C1795@baymoon.com> In-Reply-To: <7F8EEEA6-B342-460C-9BC1-DA10782C1795@baymoon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111084 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 08:43:38 +0000 (UTC) William Walker wrote: > also I > find it interesting that they suggest setting up the mics favoring one > side of whatever source you are recording over the other, rather than > trying to place the Q-3 exactly centered between them. Something to do with the 120 degree mic angle? Nice aftershave by the way. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 27 18:30:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B692A18345E; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:30:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=Di6X1d0/ExpWoUhjT/CTIhTU1U9a7QHyO24xXfndk+Y=; b=wJjtlvgi0gz9arQnxI5rUWx/PCPL1MKHcbnQmxH+6bhvAX3ImxOeKKvdjP99IncO4x GHZbYrnnfW67AV92Qyq7/F9NoDslgZPqy0S0FO9uI5kCTarfXigBT0mwLYEt4bo+TDyX Szo8H6SBy9WSI8vInO3ojwK6rtTxwa/vfl4jY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: jon.forsyth@gmail.com From: Jon Forsyth Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:30:10 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: A3IJuoMQGmn6DH6dMdeGf6AjOHQ Message-ID: Subject: introduction & request To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3030bd273684a104a9113e82 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111085 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:30:31 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3030bd273684a104a9113e82 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello all, My name is Jon Forsyth, and I'm a guitarist with some looping experience (mostly various delay pedals and a Lexicon JamMan). I'm currently a PhD student at NYU studying Music Technology, and my research involves live looping. I'd like to get a sense of what the looping community is interested in, what tools they use, their approach to looping, etc. If anyone is interested in answering a few questions, please contact me directly. Thanks in advance, looking forward to hearing from you! Jon --20cf3030bd273684a104a9113e82 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all,

My name is Jon Forsyth, and I'm a guitari= st with some looping experience (mostly various delay pedals and a Lexicon = JamMan).

I'm currently a PhD student at NYU st= udying Music Technology, and my research involves live looping. I'd lik= e to get a sense of what the looping community is interested in, what tools= they use, their approach to looping, etc. If anyone is interested in answe= ring a few questions, please contact me directly.

Thanks in advance, looking forward to hearing from you!=


Jon

--20cf3030bd273684a104a9113e82-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 27 18:57:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7FFC183457; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:57:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=sve/JcoyqW4RxBbacIeBcDqa6RkQZ2i6KFRdV4cfiQU=; b=XOCjWOF3yD+fxfTFWKxUwL6rZMVAD6SZcdb4jysUsUpzHqulq2EypdknyL3IWYQMS1 jtCaDFDx7X30mf/1QQ078+zpLaJZeYuCqovnM1YjAar8jAzxGMZmQM2Npw9x+UFdWQ15 jBdkc1qWSSIJ0j7po3wIsXjG41Ce2nhVMOxOI= Subject: Re: introduction & request References: From: Simeon Harris Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPod Mail (8C148) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 19:57:40 +0100 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 8C148) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111086 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:57:34 +0000 (UTC) Why not post a list of questions here and let whoever wants to answer do so.= I know I would be interested in reading the replies you get (and I'll answe= r too) Sim Sent from my iPod On 27 Jul 2011, at 19:30, Jon Forsyth wrote: > Hello all, >=20 > My name is Jon Forsyth, and I'm a guitarist with some looping experience (= mostly various delay pedals and a Lexicon JamMan). >=20 > I'm currently a PhD student at NYU studying Music Technology, and my resea= rch involves live looping. I'd like to get a sense of what the looping commu= nity is interested in, what tools they use, their approach to looping, etc. I= f anyone is interested in answering a few questions, please contact me direc= tly. >=20 > Thanks in advance, looking forward to hearing from you! >=20 >=20 > Jon >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 27 18:59:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7F1F18345D; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:59:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-07-27_05:2011-07-27,2011-07-27,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1107270168 Subject: Re: introduction & request From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:59:47 -0700 Message-id: <34D06ACF-09F0-49EA-B2A8-A94C4B18DAFE@mac.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111087 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:59:50 +0000 (UTC) happy to contribute, Jon. I think Simeon is right. Post your questions to the list. You will get many good responses. Daniel On Jul 27, 2011, at 11:57 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > Why not post a list of questions here and let whoever wants to answer do so. I know I would be interested in reading the replies you get (and I'll answer too) > > Sim > > Sent from my iPod > > On 27 Jul 2011, at 19:30, Jon Forsyth wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> My name is Jon Forsyth, and I'm a guitarist with some looping experience (mostly various delay pedals and a Lexicon JamMan). >> >> I'm currently a PhD student at NYU studying Music Technology, and my research involves live looping. I'd like to get a sense of what the looping community is interested in, what tools they use, their approach to looping, etc. If anyone is interested in answering a few questions, please contact me directly. >> >> Thanks in advance, looking forward to hearing from you! >> >> >> Jon >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 27 19:56:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A579183464; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 19:56:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=1e6E8xhJ5uht8NuRPMq8AhVXfBbnTU7RYF5PEsoYxsY=; b=JCWNx2+sY7tsD002CcZB4Lf4tbEcxvEoVFBPH057LBgHXrxtRAl7N9r/Nr0n+LkZRO uLmCQvpOtsR8ensLU5OtfLrmHy/m1+f4Q2udCiH863wI1Gvh9wn20spRCdlQSEbnO9cv 6VgFzuFfw6r/0kA4Pa3ybBZfCQONzqMkPITZk= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1244.3) Subject: Re: Emily Wells: Live Looper From: Myke Atkinson In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 13:56:48 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4E2EB00A.1040206@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1244.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111088 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 19:56:52 +0000 (UTC) Emily Wells performed at the Calgary Folk Fest a couple years back and = it was a pretty stellar performance. This song was one of my favourites: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DWAWfWEgeXf0 -Myke On 2011-07-26, at 6:57 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > hey but shes using a drumbox i thought that was a sin here!;-)) > i wonder where thats coming from though,it looks like a groovebox on > the table synced to her looper,though it could also b coming from one > of those Boss RC loopers? > love it thanx for the link bro shes awesome! > cheerios > Luis >=20 > On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Rick Walker = wrote: >>=20 >> Thanks to a last minute Facebook tip from singer/songwriter/live = looper Goh >> Nakamua, >> I went to the Crepe Place and caught Emily Wells' set. >>=20 >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DwNWto4xiCcw >>=20 >> Man, she's amazing! She writes really compelling songs, plays >> beautiful violin and doubles >> on keyboards, melodica, drums and guitar. Her looping is = flawless and >> she has an amazing >> sound. There is beauty and funk and soul and pathos in the music = and I >> had a lot of fun dancing to a lot of it >> as well. One of the bartenders at the Crepe Place told me she had = seen >> many amazing shows there but that >> she thought this was the single best set she'd seen. I'm inclined = to >> agree. >>=20 >> Literally, one of the very best live looping shows I've ever seen. = I'm a >> huge fan! >> Check her out! She's a very sweet human being on top of it all. >>=20 >> Rick Walker >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > www.luis-angulo.com >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 27 21:07:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C127183474; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 21:07:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=TR/en5PKCVTr6jx9QOMfpfiHqzp2uQvzVYCGojDnRaY=; b=FAaXKfleu+xx2bw2isXfzYmuKf376fAakcSiSDYQLHFRbTdFl314E3J1GJoMzqMNqM /ZCZFPliWCQc5DDiAPUHFn1lTByPr/nUB4Jn7Acylstdt5EEMwZADZaOCd2CZ909PDuB UQzOXrtrqQvKn4tQUiZUi02Ny77XlddIQGXzQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: jon.forsyth@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <34D06ACF-09F0-49EA-B2A8-A94C4B18DAFE@mac.com> From: Jon Forsyth Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 17:07:04 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Z4EV5VxzqnVr8zf9MOBwwOsGcF0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: introduction & request To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111089 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 21:07:25 +0000 (UTC) Thanks to everyone who responded already! > Why not post a list of questions here and let whoever wants to answer do so. > I know I would be interested in reading the replies you get (and I'll answer too) Yeah, I don't mind getting responses on the list (this "survey" is pretty informal). So, as long as no one has any objections, I'll start another thread for some questions. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 27 21:53:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44B6D183464; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 21:53:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20110727151815.dy4o8de3ps8g0ss4@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 15:18:15 -0500 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Android phone OK for music/looping? References: <20110726114944.117320@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20110726114944.117320@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Resent-Message-ID: <5QjahD.A.PQH.BjIMOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111090 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 21:53:06 +0000 (UTC) This is not 'music' software per se, but it does bring cool =20 functionallity to Android: On Android, Free, Open Source Touch Control for Music =E2=80=93 And It=E2=80= =99s Just =20 the Beginning, =20 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/07/on-android-free-open-source-touch-cont= rol-for-music-and-its-just-the-beginning/#more-19927 Quoting Buzap Buzap : > Hi folks > > I'm planning on buying an Android phone. Generally, I'd prefer it to =20 > an iPhone (microSD, transparent/open, accessible file system). > However, I'm not sure if the Android will be ok for music/looping. I =20 > just need some basic looping (long loop, overdubs, able to save =20 > it), basic music notation (abc notation or Lilypond) and some =20 > simple things (mp3 voice recorder, tuner, metronome etc.). > Should I be ok with an Android for basic stuff (no gimmicks) or is =20 > there simply no alternative for a musician to an iPhone? > > best regards > Buzap > > -- > NEU: FreePhone - 0ct/min Handyspartarif mit Geld-zur=C3=BCck-Garantie! > Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 27 21:59:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FD2E183478; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 21:59:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=k/MRryNfAN2tQWNoGCYVvmRsi4K2RoNSQNxiXOY0VBs=; b=QNUWlPlHh7Psq0CjANXo7NHUQzg2+J5NuREMO4bFmELDl/NYd3BXce9tU7NRanULgP VgBcntseqwoH7hKbxWZQhKVB53wQkAjIVJLVtO1/roKjnl27vbOQ8JUOilxK1uZiXLRm 8g5LZGY7g6iXAFDzpkEfN0SBEP9vn5/kS3U8s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: jon.forsyth@gmail.com From: Jon Forsyth Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 17:59:34 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: I0mT5ScU0WUvf8pxwUgs2PIwX0I Message-ID: Subject: questions for loopers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111091 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 21:59:55 +0000 (UTC) Hi everybody, In case you didn't see my previous post, I'm a PhD student doing some research involving live looping, and I'd like to get a sense of what the looping community is interested in, what tools they use, their approach to looping, etc. So, here some questions for anyone interested in participating. 1) what aspects of looping do you enjoy the most? 2) what aspects of looping do you enjoy the least? 3) what looping tools (including controllers) do you currently use/have used in the past? 4) what are the strengths of these tools? 5) what are the weaknesses of these tools? 6) do you modify a loop once it's been created? if so, how? 7) how much planning do you do for a particular performance? 8) what form does this planning take? (do you write it down, keep it in your head, etc) 9) at what level of detail do you plan? (melody, harmony, timbres, dynamics, instrumental techniques, etc.) 10) describe your general approach to loop performance. 11) what would the ideal looping system look like? describe it in as much detail as you can (and don't worry about practical concerns). 12) any additional comments? If for some reason you don't want your answers to be public, you can send them directly to me. Thanks! Jon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 27 22:41:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2BA1618345E; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 22:41:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020202.4E30940C.00CF,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=gwTiOT61Xd0XFiSJM2u1PQdwoLISfHcFsGgKvUuxCVw= c=1 sm=1 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:17 a=zHxUu12B949j_j7YbUQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Clayton Gary Lehmann" To: References: Subject: RE: questions for loopers Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 15:41:14 -0700 Message-ID: <2E2C079649B74CE7B68414D13C733A75@your0548c161e1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcxMqIeXa4B63wXtRh6WGqLvz41SUwABQvEg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111092 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 22:41:17 +0000 (UTC) Here's my answers 1) what aspects of looping do you enjoy the most? Capturing audio for backing tracks 2) what aspects of looping do you enjoy the least? Error from which I cannot recover, in front of an unsympathetic audience 3) what looping tools (including controllers) do you currently use/have used in the past? A) Lexicon Jamman, B) Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro, C) Roland RC-20, D) Digitech Jamman--controller would be Digitech PMC-10 4) what are the strengths of these tools? C and D have storage capability, A and B have more control 5) what are the weaknesses of these tools? See above 6) do you modify a loop once it's been created? if so, how? Windowing on the EDP mostly 7) how much planning do you do for a particular performance? none 8) what form does this planning take? (do you write it down, keep it in your head, etc) see above 9) at what level of detail do you plan? (melody, harmony, timbres, dynamics, instrumental techniques, etc.) see above 10) describe your general approach to loop performance. Hope you like it 11) what would the ideal looping system look like? describe it in as much detail as you can (and don't worry about practical concerns). Not the guy to ask 12) any additional comments? Try to have fun From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 27 23:12:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C253318345B; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 23:12:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_RyWge/kSTsy3YqrD48MXhg)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-07-27_06:2011-07-27,2011-07-27,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1107270232 From: Daniel Thomas Subject: Re: questions for loopers Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:12:29 -0700 In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-id: <2431781F-F9F9-47F7-9FA9-136E65EA4750@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111093 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 23:12:33 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_RyWge/kSTsy3YqrD48MXhg) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > 1) what aspects of looping do you enjoy the most? The continual surprise and disappointment of being on the front edge of innovation. I love it when the looping device interacts with me like a real musician--surprising me and spurring my own improvisation. I hate it when the cable shorts, the computer crashes, the squealing feedback gets recorded in the loop, and any of a thousand other ways that looping can really belly flop an artist. > 2) what aspects of looping do you enjoy the least? Don't we all hate schlepping gear to the gig but love seeing it set up cleverly under lights? Don't we all loath the programming of controllers (pick your control nightmare) but love the excitement of a new workflow? > 3) what looping tools (including controllers) do you currently > use/have used in the past? Line 6 DL4 Line 6 M13 Lexicon JamMan Repeater RC-1 and 2 Ableton Mobius > 4) what are the strengths of these tools? HW vs SW debate I will leave to others. For me, every looper is an instrument and like an instrument, it has its peculiar abilities and limitations. If I had more time, I would learn to play them all. > 6) do you modify a loop once it's been created? if so, how? O yes. by way of midi notes, midi arpeggios, quantize replace, filtering and modulation, ADSR, you name it. > > 7) how much planning do you do for a particular performance? I rehearse workflows extensively with an aim to-- making all loops in real time while creating musical arrangements that can go somewhere without a long period of navel gazing while I build out the basic tracks. Eve when playing a preconceived song form, most of the playing is improvised. > 8) what form does this planning take? (do you write it down, keep it > in your head, etc) I experiment with various looper controls, both recording and processing, to create new workflows that will facilitate quick improvisation of a song form. When I get a workflow going that works well for me, that inspires some good playing, I save it as a project and start rehearsing specific musical motifs and the necessary river dance on the controller, to create looping improvisations that can work (most of the time.) > > 9) at what level of detail do you plan? (melody, harmony, timbres, > dynamics, instrumental techniques, etc.) Yes. Just as you would plan for any musical performance. On Jul 27, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Jon Forsyth wrote: > Hi everybody, > > In case you didn't see my previous post, I'm a PhD student doing some > research involving live looping, and I'd like to get a sense of what > the looping community is interested in, what tools they use, their > approach to looping, etc. So, here some questions for anyone > interested in participating. > > > 1) what aspects of looping do you enjoy the most? > > 2) what aspects of looping do you enjoy the least? > > 3) what looping tools (including controllers) do you currently > use/have used in the past? > > 4) what are the strengths of these tools? > > 5) what are the weaknesses of these tools? > > 6) do you modify a loop once it's been created? if so, how? Oh yes. I am a big fan of using midi note data to control pitch of the loop. I like to use midi arpeggios, frequently voiced as drum grooves, to manipulate the pitch of my loops after I record them. Similarly, I and many others here use quantize replace in fascinating ways to > > 7) how much planning do you do for a particular performance? > > 8) what form does this planning take? (do you write it down, keep it > in your head, etc) > > 9) at what level of detail do you plan? (melody, harmony, timbres, > dynamics, instrumental techniques, etc.) > > 10) describe your general approach to loop performance. > > 11) what would the ideal looping system look like? describe it in as > much detail as you can (and don't worry about practical concerns). > > 12) any additional comments? > > > > If for some reason you don't want your answers to be public, you can > send them directly to me. > > Thanks! > > Jon > --Boundary_(ID_RyWge/kSTsy3YqrD48MXhg) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
1) what aspects of looping do you = enjoy the most?

The continual = surprise and disappointment of being on the front edge of innovation. =  

I love it when the looping device = interacts with me like a real musician--surprising me and spurring my = own improvisation.    
I hate it when the cable = shorts, the computer crashes, the squealing feedback gets recorded in = the loop, and any of a thousand other ways that looping can really belly = flop an artist.

2) = what aspects of looping do you enjoy the least?

Don'= t we all hate schlepping gear to the gig but love seeing it set up = cleverly under lights?     Don't we all loath the programming = of controllers  (pick your control nightmare) but love the = excitement of a new workflow?

3) what looping tools (including controllers) do you = currently
use/have used in the = past?

Line 6 = DL4
Line 6 M13
Lexicon = JamMan
Repeater
RC-1 and = 2
Ableton
Mobius

4) what are the strengths of these tools?

HW = vs SW debate I will leave to others.  For me, every looper is an = instrument and like an instrument, it has its peculiar abilities and = limitations.  If I had more time, I would learn to play them = all.

6) do you modify a = loop once it's been created? if so, = how?

O yes.  by way of midi = notes, midi arpeggios, quantize replace, filtering and modulation, ADSR, = you name it. 

7) how much = planning do you do for a particular = performance?

I rehearse = workflows extensively with an aim to-- making all loops in real time = while creating musical arrangements that can go somewhere without a long = period of navel gazing while I build out the basic tracks. =  
Eve when playing a preconceived song form, most of the = playing is improvised.

8) what form does this planning take? (do you write = it down, keep it
in your head, etc)
I = experiment with various looper controls, both recording and processing, = to create new workflows that will facilitate quick improvisation of a = song form.   When I get a workflow going that works well for me, = that inspires some good playing,  I save it as a project and start = rehearsing specific musical motifs and the necessary river dance on the = controller, to create looping improvisations that can work (most of the = time.)


9) at what = level of detail do you plan? (melody, harmony, timbres,
dynamics, = instrumental techniques, etc.)

Yes.=  Just as you would plan for any musical performance. =  



On Jul 27, = 2011, at 2:59 PM, Jon Forsyth wrote:

Hi = everybody,

In case you didn't see my previous post, I'm a PhD = student doing some
research involving live looping, and I'd like to = get a sense of what
the looping community is interested in, what = tools they use, their
approach to looping, etc. So, here some = questions for anyone
interested in participating.


1) what = aspects of looping do you enjoy the most?

2) what aspects of = looping do you enjoy the least?

3) what looping tools (including = controllers) do you currently
use/have used in the past?

4) = what are the strengths of these tools?

5) what are the weaknesses = of these tools?

6) do you modify a loop once it's been created? = if so, how?

Oh yes.  I am = a big fan of using midi note data to control pitch of the loop.  I = like to use midi arpeggios, frequently voiced as drum grooves, to = manipulate the pitch of my loops after I record them. =  
Similarly, I and many others here use quantize replace = in fascinating ways to 


7) how much planning do you do for a particular = performance?

8) what form does this planning take? (do you write = it down, keep it
in your head, etc)

9) at what level of detail = do you plan? (melody, harmony, timbres,
dynamics, instrumental = techniques, etc.)

10) describe your general approach to loop = performance.

11) what would the ideal looping system look like? = describe it in as
much detail as you can (and don't worry about = practical concerns).

12) any additional = comments?



If for some reason you don't want your answers = to be public, you can
send them directly to = me.

Thanks!

Jon


<= /html>= --Boundary_(ID_RyWge/kSTsy3YqrD48MXhg)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 27 23:14:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C91E18345C; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 23:14:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=lYbabb3CclQYEImvlqzUA0PzVOW9LdREj06ai/DurTM=; b=ow3vXF7bCfJheve+8Zw0Z68We7Sqa3T7UGLI4L/ypmmNa+RQTuR80eXzoH9t5Mtu6J xGM1CN+cZSAvCT2de8+fr04qepMz32ankNKdnZnUqQ6i9RM+7PZNeanaFJgZJOv3Bsfw 9h3EbtJ9VmLhtN0pQTAOHuRQDNTEk+zTgFC0U= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 01:14:02 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: questions for loopers From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111094 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 23:14:03 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 11:59 PM, Jon Forsyth wrote: > 1) what aspects of looping do you enjoy the most? > To use the looping gear as an instrument. As opposed to using it as a recorder. > 2) what aspects of looping do you enjoy the least? > The "one man band" concept. > 3) what looping tools (including controllers) do you currently > use/have used in the past? > Currently: Electric instruments, acoustic instruments, one microphone, two MIDI surfaces: The Gordius Little GIant 2 and the Faderfox LV3, a laptop (Macbook Pro) with an audio interface (RME Fireface 400), looper software Mobius, four alternative host applications (depending on the kind of project I'm currently involved with): Logic Pro, Mainstage, Plogue Bidule, Ableton Live. In the past: Same audio source instruments as today, Gibson Echoplex Digital Pro, Electrixpro Repeater, Akai MFC42 analog filterbank, mixer, Lexicon LXP-5 multi effect unit, TC Electronics Fireworx multi effect unit, Behringer FCB 1010 pedagboard MIDI controller, Faderfox LV1, a huge rack. > 4) what are the strengths of these tools? > Current (software based) tools setup provides more power to be creative, is more portable, and easier to back up. The previous (hardware based) tools setup looked better on stage, at least in the dark when all buttons and lids were twinkling. > 5) what are the weaknesses of these tools? > Software based setup needs to be taken care of more, since you have to follow upgrades in components. For example a computer operating system might suddenly be upgraded and you need that upgrade for one task but also have to upgrade a lot of third-party software to work well under the new OS version. The old hardware based rig did not have any way to recall set levels. This meant a gig might sound bad initially before you got all levels right. > 6) do you modify a loop once it's been created? > Yes, that's an important aspect of the art form. > if so, how? Most possible ways that serves a musical purpose. Fore example: changing loop length, transposing pitch/speed, replacing certain parts of the loop's audio with new audio, reversing, re-sampling many loops into one new loop, adding new layers of audio, "peeling off" layers of previously added audio, duplicating a loop while mutilating it. > 7) how much planning do you do for a particular performance? > Almost no planning regarding the actual music I will play. But a lifetime of development regarding needed performance skills; like for example music harmony theory, improvisational techniques, arrangement theory, physical instrument playing skills, sound design experience etc > 8) what form does this planning take? (do you write it down, keep it > in your head, etc) I keep it in my stomach. Although my ambition is to keep it in my heart, but THAT is still a dream. Seriously, I never plan more than will be instantly playable without the need for notes on stage. An octaphonic surround concert may need a lot of planning to set up the rig but then I use that preparation time to find out solutions that will make improvisation simple and fluent on stage. This means quite few but rather powerful options at hand (feet). > 9) at what level of detail do you plan? (melody, harmony, timbres, > dynamics, instrumental techniques, etc.) > I guess "at all levels" would be accurate here. > 10) describe your general approach to loop performance. > Make some music I enjoy and have fun. If performing at a festival I might decide at the very last minute to go with an approach that will go well with (= sounding different) what the artist before me played on the same stage. > 11) what would the ideal looping system look like? describe it in as > much detail as you can (and don't worry about practical concerns). > At least 80 foot switches and three expression pedals. A dozen hand controlled faders and buttons. As for functionality I prefer simple and powerful modules that you can play pretty instantly. I like three such "modules", or "stages". 1) First stage may be a delay unit of freeze-reverb located before the looper in the signal chain. This module should be instantly available to snag a short moment of live sound, even just a note within a fast melody run. I think such a "fast audio snatcher/freezer" shall be controlled by an expression pedal that also mutes passing audio (the system audio input, actually) when catching and freezing a slice of audio. Technically you could view it as a *cross fader* between the normal audio input signal and the audio-freeze-pad thingy. This is useful for acoustic microphone instruments because it prevents audio feedback. There are many musical ways to use such a "freeze pad"; you may snatch a chord and play over it or you may cut parts of the frozen audio into the looper to build something up there. When using a Chapman Stick as the physical audio source instrument I use two parallel input signal paths; each one pre looper and with its own expression pedal and "audio freeze pad module". With that setup I can play two fretboards - one with each hand - and freeze slices from left or right hand as some sort of musical questions-and-answers game. 2) Second stage is the actual looper. I use a looper with five parallel, internally synchronized, channels. For each channel I can create maximum five alternative loops. The fifth channel is used to resample the loops currently playng through channels 1 - 4. The five loops do not have to be of the same length, but they will relate to each other in a synchronized way, meaning any poly rhythmic relation can be set up by manipulating the length of the loops. I never use multiple inputs for my multi channel looper. Instead I manually select the channel who's loop is going to be the target for the next action. The looper has to create a tempo for the session based on the length of the first loop created. A crucial function here (really a must-have) is the user option to set preferred maximal and minimum tempo. With that function on board you may start out a performance with an extremely short first loop (like a half second) or with a very long first loop like several minutes and you will be sure that the tempo sent out to all slaved gear will still be within a range that makes musical sense. 3) Third stage is post looper. I want each looper channel to deliver its own output for processing. On each of the five outputs I like different post-loop effect that both work on the stereo panning and on synchronized processing (LFO following song tempo). Knowing about what post-loop effects you have at hand is important for the instant decisions regarding which one of the five loops you lay down a current musical part in. The ideal looping system described above is what I'm currently using, so I'd say I'm a happy camper :-) I wouldn't want to change anything in the system. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 28 00:27:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D71618345A; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 00:27:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=aXSOY17+K2H2W5wn0ftN5HCDFRfgFO6na48GI10PdYM=; b=VgOpnUbe2kSvSE7Iu5OIjvSELnN7hwVXisG32jglDeu16jIiLkrCDh3esvJVbIIOOJ xwqn7bGYIZHS2oph/6Bbu1J+SpOyHZuw/qDlN28KFogRby9KPquf1sOrc7Vcz6xdFO4r gAkdUx9l6nJ4Um8XDZf+NkHIzOYj8pQqXhHTg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 20:27:07 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: questions for loopers From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30025c569caa3b04a916398d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111095 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 00:27:08 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30025c569caa3b04a916398d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Jon Forsyth wrote: > Hi everybody, > > In case you didn't see my previous post, I'm a PhD student doing some > research involving live looping, and I'd like to get a sense of what > the looping community is interested in, what tools they use, their > approach to looping, etc. So, here some questions for anyone > interested in participating. > > > 1) what aspects of looping do you enjoy the most? > The crazy yet cool random things that just happen, > 2) what aspects of looping do you enjoy the least? > Learning curve on the loopers, especially the software ones. Rerouting all the little boxes I use to do different things. +1 for software in this regard. > > 3) what looping tools (including controllers) do you currently > use/have used in the past? > Jamman, RC20XL, DL4, DD20, Mobius, FCB1010 controller, Evolution U-Control. Occasionally I'll also use AudioMulch and a bunch of VSTs for processing. > 4) what are the strengths of these tools? > Jamman and RC20 have LONG loops and lots of memory. Easy to use. DD20 and DL4 - again easy to use, plus lots of cool delays. Mobius - super configurable and flexible. AudioMulch, again very configurable, and there are a pile of FX that I can insert into the chain. > > 5) what are the weaknesses of these tools? > Hadn't really thought about it. > > 6) do you modify a loop once it's been created? if so, how? > I run the loops through a ton of processing fx. > > 7) how much planning do you do for a particular performance? > Zero. > > 8) what form does this planning take? (do you write it down, keep it > in your head, etc) > See above. > > 9) at what level of detail do you plan? (melody, harmony, timbres, > dynamics, instrumental techniques, etc.) > See above. > > 10) describe your general approach to loop performance. > Turn everything on. Start pushing buttons til interesting sounds appear. > > 11) what would the ideal looping system look like? describe it in as > much detail as you can (and don't worry about practical concerns). > Since I use a lot of different loopers and delays and fx and synths and guitars, I'd like a nice switching system that didn't involve re-cabling everything. I have a patch-bay, but it's still a bit of a pain to switch stuff around. I find Mobius nice to use because I can use a foot controller to turn on/off things, but also use a U-Control controller with sliders and knobs to change values. > 12) any additional comments? > > I'm not much of a die-hard software vs hardware guy. I use both or either, depends on my mood. I record everything into Reaper and sometimes mess with it there. > > > If for some reason you don't want your answers to be public, you can > send them directly to me. > > Thanks! > > Jon > > There ya go. -- -==-=-=- Tony --20cf30025c569caa3b04a916398d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Jon For= syth <jpf211@nyu.edu= > wrote:
Hi everybody,

In case you didn't see my previous post, I'm a PhD student doing so= me
research involving live looping, and I'd like to get a sense of what the looping community is interested in, what tools they use, their
approach to looping, etc. So, here some questions for anyone
interested in participating.


1) what aspects of looping do you enjoy the most?

= The crazy yet cool random things that just happen,


2) what aspects of looping do you enjoy the least?
Learning curve on the loopers, especially the software ones.=A0 Rerouting = all the little boxes I use to do different things.=A0 +1 for software in th= is regard.
=A0

3) what looping tools (including controllers) do you currently
use/have used in the past?

Jamman, RC20XL, DL4, DD= 20, Mobius, FCB1010 controller, Evolution U-Control.=A0 Occasionally I'= ll also use AudioMulch and a bunch of VSTs for processing.


4) what are the strengths of these tools?

Jamman a= nd RC20 have LONG loops and lots of memory. Easy to use.=A0
DD20 and DL= 4 - again easy to use, plus lots of cool delays.
Mobius - super configur= able and flexible.
AudioMulch, again very configurable, and there are a pile of FX that I can = insert into the chain.
=A0

5) what are the weaknesses of these tools?

Hadn= 9;t really thought about it.=A0
=A0

6) do you modify a loop once it's been created? if so, how?

I run the loops through a ton of processing fx.
=A0

7) how much planning do you do for a particular performance?

Zero.
=A0

8) what form does this planning take? (do you write it down, keep it
in your head, etc)

See above.
=A0

9) at what level of detail do you plan? (melody, harmony, timbres,
dynamics, instrumental techniques, etc.)

See above= .
=A0

10) describe your general approach to loop performance.

Turn everything on.=A0 Start pushing buttons til interesting sounds a= ppear.
=A0

11) what would the ideal looping system look like? describe it in as
much detail as you can (and don't worry about practical concerns).
<= /blockquote>

Since I use a lot of different loopers and delays and = fx and synths and guitars, I'd like a nice switching system that didn&#= 39;t involve re-cabling everything.=A0 I have a patch-bay, but it's sti= ll a bit of a pain to switch stuff around.

I find Mobius nice to use because I can use a foot controller to turn o= n/off things, but also use a U-Control controller with sliders and knobs to= change values.=A0


12) any additional comments?


I'm not much of a die-hard software vs hardwa= re guy.=A0 I use both or either, depends on my mood.=A0 I record everything= into Reaper and sometimes mess with it there.
=A0


If for some reason you don't want your answers to be public, you can send them directly to me.

Thanks!

Jon


There ya go.

--
-=3D= =3D-=3D-=3D-
Tony
--20cf30025c569caa3b04a916398d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 28 11:13:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6775C18345E; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 11:13:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 649841189/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.19.186/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.19.186 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMBACBEMU5YbRO6/2dsb2JhbAAMKAEBBRAuMxMGDAwhEhAPCQMCAQIBAlElARHzTIMugxMEl3GLbQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.67,281,1309734000"; d="scan'208";a="649841189" Message-ID: <4E313C0E.1020607@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 11:38:06 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: questions for loopers (andy b) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111096 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 11:13:54 +0000 (UTC) Jon Forsyth wrote: hi Jon, thanks for your interest in the art. I'm sure the "live looping community" in general is as pleased as I am to see us getting up to "PhD level" . > 1) what aspects of looping do you enjoy the most? Like all the music I make the best part for me is hearing how it sounds. (hopefully ;-) Specific to looping or rather to "livelooping" it's the way the technical possibilities of the looping devices I use interact with my compositional technique. > > 2) what aspects of looping do you enjoy the least? I'm predominantly interested in "Live Looping", the production of music with pre-made loops isn't really something that gives me a thrill. Another downside is that live looping as a way to create new music has a very low public profile, to the extent that even people who use loops for music deny the possibility. > > 3) what looping tools (including controllers) do you currently > use/have used in the past? Main Tools, the mainstay of my musical technique Echoplex Digital Pro (2 units for stereo) Lexicon Vortex Electro Harmonix Stereo Memory Man with Hazarai and really the Gordius Little Giant foot controller needs to be listed here as well New Addition. Looperlative LP1 Alternative device for "small gigs" Vox VDL-1 Dynamic Looper Used in the past. Lexicon JamMan. Zoom 2100 Behringer Virtualizer (5s delay) Tried out briefly Akai Headrush Line 6 DL4 Boss RC-50 > > 4) what are the strengths of these tools? Echoplex Digital Pro Really this is the machine which defines creative looping. The user interface is carefully thought out to offer a great range of control with a small number of switches. Fast response time to all commands. Vast range of loop manipulation techniques easily accessible. Some of the most interesting are "emergent", i.e. they are the result of quirks of the software, but given full status by developer as features. Designed by loopers, with full input from the loop community. Lexicon Vortex Ability to "morph" short loops. The only available device (including software) that allows you to select 2 different effect algorithms and go gradually or quickly between the 2. Sounds trapped in the delays can be rearranged and modified from the original input. Electro Harmonix Stereo Memory Man with Hazarai Varispeed on loop. Portable stomp box just sophisticated enough to be worth using in a band context. Gordius Little Giant foot controller. the most sophisticated midi controller, in a conveniently sized package. Looperlative LP1 Powerful multi track looper. Stereo tracks. User interface is configurable. For most people, this is the only loop device they'll ever need. Designed by loopers. Software upgrades planned. Vox VDL-1 Dynamic Looper Fairly sophisticated live looping device in stomp box format. Some inspiring quirks. Lexicon JamMan. Best sounding looper for bass. Zoom 2100 cheap, quirky Behringer Virtualizer (poly delays) cheap, good sound quality. Akai Headrush none known :-) Line 6 DL4 Very easy to use. Boss RC-50 multitrack capability > > 5) what are the weaknesses of these tools? Echoplex Digital Pro (aka EDP) (2 units for stereo) need 2 for stereo (can lose sync). availability Lexicon Vortex only 2s of looptime Electro Harmonix Stereo Memory Man with Hazarai Looper is just an additional feature on an echo unit, user interface very limited and not ideal for rhythmically accurate looping. Gordius Little Giant foot controller price, realistically it needs computer for setup Looperlative LP1 availability. Some people find that the need for user to configure the interface is a downside. Vox VDL-1 Dynamic Looper not designed with input from live loopers, so lacks obvious features. no feedback control on loop. Lexicon JamMan. limited, no feedback control on sampled loop. Zoom 2100 very limited, no feedback control on sampled loop. Behringer Virtualizer (poly delays) just a delay Akai Headrush very limited Line 6 DL4 no feedback control on loop Boss RC-50 Sound quality not that great for the price point. no feedback control on loop( except with complex workaround). > > 6) do you modify a loop once it's been created? if so, how? Yes. 1) Change speed of loop (usually an octave) 2) Reverse. 3) Replace chunks of audio within the loop. 4) Insert extra audio into loop, making loop longer. 5) Overdub material. 6) Cancel the overdub (Undo) 7) Retrigger loop from start. 8) Change length of loop. 9) Loop windowing is a specific technique which involves stepping back through the memory space of the EDP after the length of loop is changed. 10) Lexicon Vortex offers some unusual modifications to its short loops. There's also different techniques based on more than one loop: parallel, series and resampling/copying. > > 7) how much planning do you do for a particular performance? As much as possible. > > 8) what form does this planning take? (do you write it down, keep it > in your head, etc) In my head, but may have set list with a few notations. Sometimes I make sketch recordings, or use released recording as a reference. > > 9) at what level of detail do you plan? (melody, harmony, timbres, > dynamics, instrumental techniques, etc.) Depends on the piece. Can be through composed, or very much improvised. Often the looping technique can be a defining part of the composition. > > 10) describe your general approach to loop performance. The aim is to create something that the audience will enjoy. > > 11) what would the ideal looping system look like? describe it in as > much detail as you can (and don't worry about practical concerns). This is a bit like asking "What would be the ideal stringed instrument?". More strings? It's a balance between the amount of available features, and the immediacy of control of those features. e.g. It seems attractive to have more independent loops available, but the result is generally a more static performance. To carry the string analogy further, it might be worth checking out the range of playing techniques available on a 2 string Dombra and then compare to the results possible with an Arch Lute. There's also the consideration that it's often working with the limitations of the technology which unleashes creative composition. It's long been considered on LD that there is no ideal loop device, that each user has unique requirements. I'd add to that by suggesting that it's often the non-ideal qualities of a loop device which end up giving rise to the desired (unexpectedly creative) musical result. Maybe it would be as well to consider what's the *minimum* requirement for a looping device. (and in many ways, that might be close to the ideal system). > > 12) any additional comments? I guess it's worth adding that many people, myself included consider the looping device to be an instrument. 1) It needs to be learned before it can be used well. 2) The quirks of the device profoundly affect the music produced. 3) Results can vary greatly depending on the user. Interestingly though, that would make looping devices the first instruments to be more concerned with form and rhythm than with harmony and timbre. A more contentious issue is whether "livelooping" constitutes a genre/type of music. Having myself followed the "looping device as an instrument" philosophy to the extent of producing music which would be inconceivable (at least in details) without the technology I'd find no reason to claim otherwise. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 28 13:02:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8E95183461; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 13:02:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=8TttzufTnvURBEHnqTDbKxLgZnsuxFcdGj07AWR8ZwY=; b=Y5rxjLakYbrHTU2p7rZiqAIJk6U7EKWumc2CTPv9sWzUjlBg1POdpv92yKw0mmZn+A MnDb7+aGS7W6N+n1+BgEh5E1eaGQuTKXm8a9kiEYpO2dp0ktX3iOoCiwz4m0On++fLI3 N9LcznIXkQXWicAyRjAPakA7ad+Jc1d5Syd+o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 15:02:27 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: questions for loopers From: Fabio_A To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec547ca7de86b7604a920c6d7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111097 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 13:02:29 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec547ca7de86b7604a920c6d7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi John, I'm also pleased that "live looping" is of interest for your PhD research. Here are my answers. 1) what aspects of looping do you enjoy the most? The "istantaneus" capability of the tool both for improvising and composing 2) what aspects of looping do you enjoy the least? ...maybe ...learning curve ? 3) what looping tools (including controllers) do you currently use/have used in the past? 1992-2003 - midi looping trough sequencers - various delays, - Lexicon Jam Man, 2004-2007 Electrix Repeater, - Boss DD-20, >From 2007 till today: - Mobius software working as a plugin inside Bidule (the Host) FCB 1010 Behringer (midi footcontroller), nanoKontrol (hand controller) 4) what are the strengths of these tools? I consider Mobius as the most complete and customizable looper. Based on the architecture of the glorious EDP, Mobius is a stero multitrack looper fully customizable using "scripts" (more info: www.circularlabs.com). Bidule is the host where I make all the audio routing work "to" and "from" the looper, addressing various fx plugins 5) what are the weaknesses of these tools? Sometimes when I desider a new function I post a question on this list and on the Mobius forum and magically it becomes real and available. 6) do you modify a loop once it's been created? if so, how? Yes, I use: Half-speed reverse, pitch-shift, multyply divide shuffle slip as some of my preferred ways to change the shape of the loop. 7) how much planning do you do for a particular performance? As much as I can. Since my intent is to play pre-composed songs, I need to plan in advantage what I'm going to play and "in" which track it has to be located. Scripts triggering special behaviour of the looper (mute track 2,3,7 at the same time of a crescendo in track 1 and 8) need also to be planned and reharsed. Panning is also an important factor At the beginning I write down a paper of the song with all the relevant data and then I find a way to locate all loops over the 8 tracks (including next loop), and work on scripts to change "scenes" of my loops playing. Then I start reharse and record it to see what could be improved and study how to do that (that means, also, thinking to pan position, changing level of the loops ecc..) After all the technical issues are solved I continue with daily reharsal working on flux, dynamics and expressivity. 8) what form does this planning take? (do you write it down, keep it in your head, etc) See above. 9) at what level of detail do you plan? (melody, harmony, timbres, dynamics, instrumental techniques, etc.) See above. 10) describe your general approach to loop performance. Try to connect with the audience trough music. 11) what would the ideal looping system look like? describe it in as much detail as you can (and don't worry about practical concerns). See above (question #4) 12) any additional comments? ... Thanks to you -f www.eterogeneo.com --bcaec547ca7de86b7604a920c6d7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi John,
I'm also pleased that "live looping"= is of interest for your PhD research.
Here are my answers.
=A0
1) what aspects of looping do you enjoy the = most?
The "istantaneus" capability of the tool both for= improvising and=A0composing
=A0
2) what aspects of looping do you enjoy the = least?
...maybe ...learning curve ?
=A0
3) what looping tools (including controllers= ) do you currently
use/have used in the past?
199= 2-2003
- midi looping=A0trough sequencers
- various delays,
- Lexicon Jam Man,
=A0
2004-2007
=A0Electrix Repeater,
- Boss DD-20,
=A0
From 2007 till today:
- Mobius software working as a plugin inside Bidul= e (the Host)
FCB 1010 Behringer (midi footcontroller), nanoKont= rol (hand controller)
=A0
4) what are the strengths of these tools?
I consider Mobius as the most complete and customizable looper.
Based on the architecture of the glorious EDP, Mob= ius is a stero multitrack looper fully customizable=A0using "scripts&q= uot; (more info: www.circularlabs.= com).
Bidule is the host where I make all the audio rout= ing work "to" and "from" the looper, addressing various= fx plugins

5) what are the weaknesses of these tool= s?
Sometimes when I desider a new function I post a question on t= his list and on the Mobius forum and magically it becomes real and availabl= e.
=A0
6) do you modify a loop once it's been c= reated? if so, how?
Yes, I use:
Half-speed
reverse,
pitch-shift,
multyply
divide
shuffle
slip
as some of my preferred ways to change the shape o= f the loop.
=A0
7) how much planning do you do for a particu= lar performance?
As=A0much as I can.
Since my intent is to play pre-composed songs, I n= eed to plan in advantage what I'm going to play and "in" whic= h track it has to be located.
Scripts triggering special behaviour of the looper= (mute track 2,3,7 at the same time of a crescendo in track 1 and 8) need a= lso to be planned and reharsed.
Panning is also an important factor
At the beginning I write down a paper of the song = with all the relevant data and then I find a way to locate all loops over t= he 8 tracks (including next loop), and work on scripts to change "scen= es" of my loops=A0playing.
Then I start reharse and=A0record it to see what c= ould be improved and study how to do that (that means, also, thinking to pa= n position, changing level of the loops ecc..)
After all the technical issues are solved=A0I cont= inue with daily reharsal working on flux, dynamics and expressivity.
=A0
8) what form does this planning take? (do yo= u write it down, keep it
in your head, etc)
See a= bove.
=A0
9) at what level of detail do you plan? (mel= ody, harmony, timbres,
dynamics, instrumental techniques, e= tc.)
See above.

10) describe your general approach to lo= op performance.
Try to connect with the audience trough music.
=A0
11) what would the ideal looping system look= like? describe it in as
much detail as you can (and don= 9;t worry about practical concerns).
See above (question #4)

12) any additional comments?
...
Thanks to you

-f
--bcaec547ca7de86b7604a920c6d7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 28 16:41:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0DC1018345D; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 16:41:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dS5y3XBb/aqbDW3NMzUU3vTiHK/LeG8E+aXWlEjucjU=; b=hg9bFeO0YAZnAa3JKtBelfBdqrdejaHoYXrBYgjhqWN0IVNv265lW1KbSErdP5HheD DNfHeAVLyyrmziaBqV/zjBdkm2aEUZukinxmLhMzn/vMKtB+Dty/YeWlO/JCdPrC6NGD 6j3HotqY4C8+obPr0q0emg0rpDFeiu/dXMX3A= Message-ID: <4E319117.8090709@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 18:40:55 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: questions for loopers References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111098 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 16:41:02 +0000 (UTC) 1) what aspects of looping do you enjoy the most? currently: recontextualizing sounds 2) what aspects of looping do you enjoy the least? nobody (except for us loopnerds) gets what it is 3) what looping tools (including controllers) do you currently use/have used in the past? Current main looper: Möbius (software), controlled by FCB1010 and BCR2000 for control, a next step will include a state-machine sequencer controlled by a bluetooth trackball Other loopers I use: Boss DD20, EH SMM w/Hazari, Line6 M9, Korg KP3 Loopers I have but don't use that much: Line6 DL4, Lexicon Vortex, Eventide Eclipse, TC D2, Electrix Repeater Loopers I used in the past and no longer have: Akai E1 Headrush, Digitech RDS 4) what are the strengths of these tools? Möbius: extremely powerful, scripting engine makes it a one-of-its-kind Boss DD20: use that in delay mode - long delays, multiple delays, kinda-multiply possible SMM w/Hazari: Varispeed M9: undo/redo, integrated into a nice effects box Korg KP3: multitrack The stompbox looper in the Eclipse allows for cool granular looping 5) what are the weaknesses of these tools? Möbius: mhmmm...runs on a computer? DD20: multi-delay implementation not perfect, user interface for delays not looping-optimized, SOS mode not useful SMM w/Hazari: stupid user interface, very short loops not possible M9: long press necessary to get into/out of looper mode Korg KP3: no overdub, no first loop capability 6) do you modify a loop once it's been created? if so, how? I'd like to group that into three ways of modification: a) modifications of the loop content per se (i.e. the recorded audio changes): overdub and related techniques, multiply, overdub w/ external feedback loop, shuffle b) transport control varispeed (halfspeed etc.), reverse, retrigger, slip c) post processing (i.e. stuff that you do in another effect post-looper) the whole bunch, but mainly creative compression, delay, reverb, pitch shift (lofi) 7) how much planning do you do for a particular performance? It depends on my setup. First, there's the standard Möbius-based setup. In that case: none. For any other setup (which are hardware setups), planning does go into how to organize the signal flow (e.g. effects processing pre-/post-loop possible), but not into the performance itself. 8) what form does this planning take? (do you write it down, keep it in your head, etc) n/a 9) at what level of detail do you plan? (melody, harmony, timbres, dynamics, instrumental techniques, etc.) n/a 10) describe your general approach to loop performance. I play and see what happens. 11) what would the ideal looping system look like? describe it in as much detail as you can (and don't worry about practical concerns). small but efficient package, good and configurable user interface, loads of functions, multiple tracks, sync options, varispeed, granular stuff, big undo/redo buffer, frequency-split looping stuff, scripting engine... Möbius does most of it. 12) any additional comments? none -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 28 18:34:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D092718345E; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 18:34:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E31A5F2.2090102@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 14:09:54 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen to Galactic Travels #747 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111099 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 18:34:22 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long Special Focus on Jürgen Haible. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "The Secret Life of Trees." Details are at the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#jul Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org/listen on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 28 21:37:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6333F18345D; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 21:37:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5e652b1e97f92a39bc028d6f426b4cc2.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 17:37:51 -0400 Subject: Funky Island Looping for Two Guitars From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Andr=E9_Donawa=22?= To: "Loopers-Delight Loopers-Delight" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111100 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 21:37:50 +0000 (UTC) No heavy looping skills here, but I had x.amount of fun with this jam. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPjnIR2h9mc Andre http://islandfunk.com http://www.andredonawa.com http://www.youtube.com/user/AndreDonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 29 00:04:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8527118345E; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 00:04:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 69901 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 00:04:12 UTC Subject: OT: Test From: Jeff Larson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 19:04:07 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111101 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 00:04:12 +0000 (UTC) Hello, am I still allowed to post here? If I got banned because of = those pictures on TMZ=20 I swear those were photoshopped.=20 With contrition, Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 29 00:15:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B436183457; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 00:15:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeff Larson Subject: Re: questions for loopers Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 19:15:45 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: <6rPnwB.A.lXC.1ufMOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111102 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 00:15:50 +0000 (UTC) 1) what aspects of looping do you enjoy the most? It's a toss up between the lavish backstage riders and the groupies. The money is nice of course, but it's secondary to pleasing my fans. Ultimately, I really like playing with myself. 2) what aspects of looping do you enjoy the least? Hotels with windows that don't open so you can't throw TVs into the pool. LD's that give me insufficient light for proper shoe gazing. Rednecks waving lighters screaming FREEBIRD! IN C! 3) what looping tools (including controllers) do you currently use/have used in the past? Currently I use Mobius and a variety of controllers. The controllers I use most often are a Behringer FCB-1010 footswitch, KORG nanoKey, and KORG nanoKontrol. I sometimes use an iPad with TouchOSC, Novation Remote 25, M-Audio Trigger Finger, Keith McMillen Softstep, and several touch sensitive itinerant laborers. In the past I've used a Gibson Echoplex Digital Pro, a Lexicon Jamman (the old one), and a Digitech 2 second delay/sampler. 4) what are the strengths of these tools? Mobius does just about everything I need though I do occasionally have problems with priapism. 5) what are the weaknesses of these tools? Not flame retardant. 6) do you modify a loop once it's been created? if so, how? I usually start building loops for static background patterns. They may contain several overdubs and multiplications but afterward they don't change though I may trigger them randomly to create "songs". When I get to the "solo" part I treat the loop more like something I "play" by applying effects, chopping it up into pieces, changing playback direction and speed, etc. Occasionally I might apply transdermal implants, scarification, or a Prince Albert, but only for weddings and family reunions. 7) how much planning do you do for a particular performance? Typically a week of fasting, sweat lodges, and a few drum circles. Most of the time I use looping to create backgrounds for improvisation. There is not much planning other than a chord progression and instrumentation. I find this enjoyable to do, but often it is boring to listen to as an audience member. I am more interesting in hearing people that use loops as an extension of their instrument, creating complex evolving patterns that could not be done any other way. I also like loopers that create complex multi-part arrangements with parts that are brought in and out. I have no problem with pre-recorded rhythm parts. 8) what form does this planning take? (do you write it down, keep it in your head, etc) I sketch things using a modified form of standard music notation. Then I drink a lot and stare at it until memorized. 9) at what level of detail do you plan? (melody, harmony, timbres, dynamics, instrumental techniques, etc.) Usually just rhythm, chords, and timbres. The rest is improvised. I also like to know where all the exits are and the average first responder time. 10) describe your general approach to loop performance. Do no harm. 11) what would the ideal looping system look like? describe it in as much detail as you can (and don't worry about practical concerns). Pretty much Mobius but with more cowbell. 12) any additional comments? I like turtles. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 29 02:10:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 027DF18345D; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 02:10:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=G6Q69DB3AUoJKS2BpLRaz8MQ2NORN7h5HRzrJMPOhRw= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=KD67oRxVopcfRK0UmPnanQ==:17 a=BqnPDgqRqhKIicnzqbcA:9 a=P6oVYeXqTy9em7z2DEkA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=KD67oRxVopcfRK0UmPnanQ==:117 Message-Id: <7C1F3D05-A7D5-44BE-899A-9C541AF4EF20@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: questions for loopers Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 19:10:09 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <31qJdD.A.igD.DahMOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111103 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 02:10:11 +0000 (UTC) Jon, On Jul 27, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Jon Forsyth wrote: > So, here some questions for anyone interested in participating. > > 1) what aspects of looping do you enjoy the most? From the very beginning, because much music is based on repeating patterns (of some sort or another anyway), the ability to play something and the delight at hearing it echoed back at me almost immediately - that and the possibility this offers of building up larger and more complicated and/or more interesting "guitarchitectures" (my own word for it). > 2) what aspects of looping do you enjoy the least? Like everyone else, I don't know of anyone who is particularly fond of schlepping gear, or double-checking cable connections, battery status or other aspects of "gremlin hunting." The more complex systems get, particularly for those of us who like to "play the looper as another instrument" in addition ot our first instrument, the more prone to unwanted glitches and faults they can become. > 3) what looping tools (including controllers) do you currently > use/have used in the past? I began with tape, and fuddled around with early analog and digital delays before I go my first true looper (actually a pair), the Electro Harmonix 16-Second DDL. From there I bought the early rack mount JamMan, and eventually 2 Echoplex Digital Pros in 1996. I now use a hybrid software system with MaxMSP hosting a pair of Matthias Grob's EchoLoop VSTs that operate as close to exactly like the hardware EDPs as could be desired (plus they are stereo). > 4) what are the strengths of these tools? Well, every piece of hardware has its pro's and cons. And, software does too. I would say that if you use a hardware looper you have the advantage of a dedicated tool with a consistent (if limited) interface and set of capabilities that will last you as long as you manage to take care of it. The world of software is in constant flux. Operating systems change periodically, your Software updates periodically too. Compatibility issues may mean that from time to time some key part of your "rig" has suddenly become obsolete, unsupported or worse, non- functional. I owned and used my Oberheim Echoplexes for 16 years before I sold them. I can hardly imagine using the same software rig unchanged for any longer than a six months at a time. And all that change demands a continual investment of time to "bone up," study and learn the latest versions of you tools. > 5) what are the weaknesses of these tools? Related to the above issues, you come to rely on these things - you have a relationship with them - and then one day they're gone. If you define your artistic identity around the use of a certain piece of finicky/undependable hardware, or transitory ephemeral software that will sooner or later be as outdated as 8-track tapes, you yourself will have a short musical shelf-life. You must constantly adapt. > 6) do you modify a loop once it's been created? if so, how? Yes, backwards, forwards, speed, pitch, various post loop FX, EQ reverb, splice, dice, and glitch. > 7) how much planning do you do for a particular performance? I plan what to take and what elements (FX and other resources) to use. I practice scales, I practice playing with out key parts of my rig (imagining partial failure of some sort) and try to figure out possible plan Bs in the even of the worst. I toss random, unmusical "garbage" into a loop and try to make music out of it. I plan for a certain amount of redundancy in my hybrid hardware/software rig. > 8) what form does this planning take? (do you write it down, keep it > in your head, etc). I should write it down - on something other than post-it notes - but I seldom do. As I am now 58 and am starting to lose my marbles a little more each day (LOL) I really ought to keep a notebook. I do take the owners manuals for every complex piece of software or hardware I take. > 9) at what level of detail do you plan? (melody, harmony, timbres, > dynamics, instrumental techniques, etc.) In terms of musical planning, I do none - really and truly - none. If I practice something I find that leads to my having specific "expectations" and a greater critical sense that "Gee, that didn't go quite as planned." Or, "Oops, doggone it, I've played another clam." I know it sounds lazy of me, but I find my anxiety level goes way down when I know the audience and I will **both** be hearing whatever happens for the first time. I have more than enough ideas boiling constantly in my brain. I simply prefer to walk on stage and say "1-2-3 go." with an aural tabula rasa before me. I have struggled for may years to overcome my inner "critical nature" and my severe "performance anxiety." It possible may sound totally nuts, but the best thing I ever did was to throw any plan I had out the window. > 10) describe your general approach to loop performance. Make a noise, loop it and listen to it, then make another. I keep doing that as long as it sounds good to me. If I find myself heading down a path I don't like, I change the loop. This works fine if I am doing a solo show. If I am doing a set within a bunch of other sets by other performers (in a festival, for instance), I try to listen to what went immediately before me and do the opposite - to create contrast. If they played loud, I play soft, if they were largely atmospheric, I'll do pointillism, if they played atonal I play something lyrical, if they used steady beats, I will use none. > 11) what would the ideal looping system look like? describe it in as > much detail as you can (and don't worry about practical concerns). Something that was completely flexible and user definable (I love MaxMSP), but invisible (I hate gear, pedals, cables, racks, bags, stands, etc.). If it were in my guitar and changed parameters by reading my thoughts . . . or better yet, my emotional responses . . . as long as we are talking about **ideal**. > 12) any additional comments? I think that about does it. Looping is a technique, not a style or genre of music. It is a wonderful enabler of musical creativity. It's been good to be alive in the last 30 years. > If for some reason you don't want your answers to be public, you can > send them directly to me. Nah, I'm an old timer here - been on the list since October of 1996. If I had any shame, it would have surfaced long ago. > Thanks! Thank you! I'm enjoying everybody else's answers. > Jon Good to meet you Jon, Best regards, Ted From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 29 02:15:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10CDF18345E; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 02:15:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=ZfaJA2U9K4OJVV0itKIa/rU0PwQiLlpW14hMVHlH8X4=; b=Cjwj93zX8w011whATKPE+y5QgiM+/IUOmyFsU1m/E8tXoCvDRg++IXsOml+Yb+cF93 GPAHFOUWNyE4aaaj2DBpymxJR3jX/3fSHuiCpi2vBKq4tqanzr1IeEbLdVDX8ByD68Jy e6PAu6703BkayUHnr3Wat7UyAAouY567ghDnQ= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1244.3) Subject: Re: questions for loopers From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 22:15:25 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1244.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111104 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 02:15:27 +0000 (UTC) I heart Jeff Larson. On Jul 28, 2011, at 8:15 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > > 1) what aspects of looping do you enjoy the most? > > It's a toss up between the lavish backstage riders and the groupies. > The money is nice of course, but it's secondary to pleasing my fans. > Ultimately, I really like playing with myself. > > 12) any additional comments? > > I like turtles. > -------------------- Todd Matthews toddbass.com twitter: gtodd876 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 29 02:52:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B745E18345F; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 02:52:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=IY7iqBJHzfXMIJ3lKRtfOE/gpyMGfrbczbbK6wnq1Yo=; b=SDADOE+3Y+Q1AEQhOYRaQCeNvLWlitV0RZ2CTx4dvCSCTLLHfg1nOm6w/AGpGUY/YJ p+RpJ4gVDs9KezYSbgVfQ0t8SBMVxgoEfAGQRDGkkhst1Vk4qFbMH4LCozd2hnO6hDX5 pjE+3ekYo6ogEKcp9jqMAtR9jDjf8qWkS84LM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: jon.forsyth@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: Jon Forsyth Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 22:52:14 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: uLWCuIpEgI3-SuHyCQci4QU3PE4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: questions for loopers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111105 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 02:52:35 +0000 (UTC) Thanks to everyone for their informative, thoughtful, and/or amusing responses! (and keep 'em coming!) You've definitely given me a lot to think about. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 29 05:32:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B976F18345E; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 05:32:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020203.4E324603.000A,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=gwTiOT61Xd0XFiSJM2u1PQdwoLISfHcFsGgKvUuxCVw= c=1 sm=1 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:17 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=1qTmXOJVxpWxErnmQJMA:9 a=F9QIbPuJ3GdSKRiyDPwA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=JPrUsuVeCyveod3hphcA:9 a=_nvwCvhzHDdNXX4jtxEA:7 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Clayton Gary Lehmann" To: References: <93EC2B7F628444A0841C9F342DD75490@your0548c161e1> <1311645131.86912.YahooMailClassic@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 22:32:47 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01CC4D76.46AE4ED0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Thread-Index: AcxLNqZ20lv/PT1XTx6OAzMxisI/LQCefaIg In-Reply-To: <1311645131.86912.YahooMailClassic@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111106 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 05:32:52 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01CC4D76.46AE4ED0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have the 'Rang and have been making it fit into my loop pedal setup- Spoke with Mike today and he confirmed that the Sidecar is $209 from him (that includes a modest discount) plus shipping . . . So around $225 to most places in the US. I am going to try to do without the Sidecar for now, got the expression pedal to work on feedback-nice to have rock solid multiple loops for the "one man band" approach . . . G _____ From: Paul Richards [mailto:paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 6:52 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar $400!? That's almost as much as the Boomerang! --- On Mon, 7/25/11, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote: From: Clayton Gary Lehmann Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 7:14 PM I just got off the phone with Mike Nelson at Boomerang and he confirmed they have in stock and are shipping the Sidecar, a proprietary foot controller for the Boomerang III. I didn't ask him how much, but IIRC it's somewhere around $400 list. Of course, he can't discount it without pissing off his vendors, but give him a call and see what he can do for you. Gnarly ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01CC4D76.46AE4ED0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have the ‘Rang and have = been making it fit into my loop pedal = setup—

Spoke with Mike today and he = confirmed that the Sidecar is $209 from him (that includes a modest discount) plus shipping . . .

So around $225 to most places in = the US.=

I am going to try to do without the Sidecar for now, got the expression pedal to work on feedback—nice = to have rock solid multiple loops for the “one man band” = approach . . .

G

 

From: Paul = Richards [mailto:paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, July 25, = 2011 6:52 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: Boomerang = Sidecar

 

$400!? That's almost as much as the = Boomerang!

--- On Mon, 7/25/11, Clayton Gary = Lehmann <hqr@cox.net> = wrote:


From: Clayton Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net>
Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 7:14 PM

I just got = off the phone with Mike Nelson at Boomerang and he confirmed they
have in stock and are shipping the Sidecar, a proprietary foot = controller
for the Boomerang III. I didn't ask him how much, but IIRC it's = somewhere
around $400 list.
Of course, he can't discount it without pissing off his vendors, but = give
him a call and see what he can do for you.
Gnarly

 

------=_NextPart_000_0000_01CC4D76.46AE4ED0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 29 08:40:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C00BC183461; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:40:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kDjRTIeQxdqBqTDNvn/82MCOAdRWyA7LNMUF9Ca4+5w=; b=G83e3S0N3E0kFD7/hoCH01YawjqTu2idI5r16pNde9Y1POPOo6lRKh2Y17APMOt3DA kr0n8Akti0XPNy9j3iDs7i+HiLmvCEsjEHQYuWoIr3EI/VYSwa/bh04XBzjk0lI6fjKA VS9JhroId755vXb2iq7lrATUynJZaSuaf2pc0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:40:29 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Test From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111107 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:40:30 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 2:04 AM, Jeff Larson wrote: > Hello, am I still allowed to post here? =C2=A0 =C2=A0If I got banned beca= use of those pictures on TMZ > I swear those were photoshopped. Somehow that post did slip through... :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 29 09:57:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDD3D18345D; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 09:57:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=VOv4CSNM5dovAvtt9CJ63WK7r6Y6I/ucg/S53M3ZZxk=; b=ukLdzlVBhisPpY2mihhGKqOqNRmOgjR+hVs/X634SD4phltSSuddASTVdLMzfuxYKo mNJAxgbWixj1yMaPWWNlQ1JLiIcrQ5PCnGEQnNEwZ/GHoFrT1lZVK1+W4xDDg7qJsETf o+L4DYdN76Y5JHpPmEvZCilgJaivZxp4uIbYA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <93EC2B7F628444A0841C9F342DD75490@your0548c161e1> <1311645131.86912.YahooMailClassic@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 11:57:23 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Boomerang Sidecar From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30780c68d9573604a9324e8b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111108 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 09:57:23 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30780c68d9573604a9324e8b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanx for the hinsight Gary,let me know how it works for you without the sidecar im observing it as well and debating to eventually purchase it as well say do they sell it at guitar center in SD? dont see it offered in their website though i know they carried it previously awesome features though i keep hearing is too much tapdance without the sidecar cheers Luis On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote: > ** ** ** > > I have the =91Rang and have been making it fit into my loop pedal setup= =97**** > > Spoke with Mike today and he confirmed that the Sidecar is $209 from him > (that includes a modest discount) plus shipping . . .**** > > So around $225 to most places in the ****US****.**** > > I am going to try to do without the Sidecar for now, got the expression > pedal to work on feedback=97nice to have rock solid multiple loops for th= e > =93one man band=94 approach . . .**** > > G**** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Paul Richards [mailto:paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com] > *Sent:* Monday, July 25, 2011 6:52 PM > *To:* **Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com** > *Subject:* RE: Boomerang Sidecar**** > > ** ** > > $400!? That's almost as much as the Boomerang! > > --- On *Mon, 7/25/11, Clayton Gary Lehmann * wrote:**** > > > From: Clayton Gary Lehmann > Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar > To: **Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com** > Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 7:14 PM**** > > I just got off the phone with Mike Nelson at Boomerang and he confirmed > they > have in stock and are shipping the Sidecar, a proprietary foot controller > for the Boomerang III. I didn't ask him how much, but IIRC it's somewhere > around $400 list. > Of course, he can't discount it without pissing off his vendors, but give > him a call and see what he can do for you. > Gnarly**** > > ** ** > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com --20cf30780c68d9573604a9324e8b Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanx for the hinsight Gary,let me know how it works for you without the si= decar=A0
im observing it as well and debating to eventually purchase it= as well
say do they sell it at guitar center in SD? dont see it = offered in their website though i know they carried it previously
awesome features though=A0i keep hearing is too much tapdance without = the sidecar
cheers
Luis

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Clayton Gary Lehmann &= lt;hqr@cox.net> wrote:

I have the =91Rang= and have been making it fit into my loop pedal setup=97

Spoke with Mike to= day and he confirmed that the Sidecar is $209 from him (that includes a modest discount) plus shipping . . .

So around $225 to = most places in the US.

I am going to try = to do without the Sidecar for now, got the expression pedal to work on feedback=97nice to have rock solid multiple loops for the =93one man band=94 approach . . .

G

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From: Paul Richards [mailto:pa= ulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 = 6:52 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loo= pers-delight.com
Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidec= ar

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$400!? That's almost as much as the Boomerang!=

--- On Mon, 7/25/11, Clayton Gary Leh= mann <hqr@cox.net> wrote:=


From: Clayton Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net>
Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 7:14 PM

I just got off the phone with Mike Nelson at Boomerang and he confirmed they
have in stock and are shipping the Sidecar, a proprietary foot controller=
for the Boomerang III. I didn't ask him how much, but IIRC it's s= omewhere
around $400 list.
Of course, he can't discount it without pissing off his vendors, but = give
him a call and see what he can do for you.
Gnarly

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--20cf30780c68d9573604a9324e8b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 29 10:02:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9747183465; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:02:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=yrK1bLHAV/II1EwqDIJlGOnnonNu7suV7ERykLuvdbU=; b=wlK4GtzDLUaNblZ7Dn3Y8xpypehwcSaMePomm/lDGIJFYMHioWqR+g5SuYEy4VhuVP CJ93yrtes1TwQFGRP64/c1dj2EKSc2yqjEl8uyaSL6kQI3zgKubskUgrp3JaTxrGanyP xX8d24XhTMUBXScE80CC8ecxFsNqeNkQ4ck58= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 12:02:07 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: questions for loopers From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111109 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:02:08 +0000 (UTC) Jeff for president! On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 4:15 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: > I heart Jeff Larson. > On Jul 28, 2011, at 8:15 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > >> >> 1) what aspects of looping do you enjoy the most? >> >> It's a toss up between the lavish backstage riders and the groupies. >> The money is nice of course, but it's secondary to pleasing my fans. >> Ultimately, I really like playing with myself. >> >> 12) any additional comments? >> >> I like turtles. >> > > -------------------- > Todd Matthews > toddbass.com > twitter: gtodd876 > > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 29 11:45:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7B4E18345E; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 11:45:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: questions for loopers X-AOL-IP: 69.183.244.153 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Patrick Bishop X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CE1BFC2BBC0DF3_2504_4E7B3_webmail-d086.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33996-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CE1BFC2BADC4AB-2504-16AC6@webmail-d086.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [69.183.244.153] Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 07:45:38 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:489659104:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294a4e329d624adf Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111110 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 11:45:43 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CE1BFC2BBC0DF3_2504_4E7B3_webmail-d086.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Only if the Turtle is going to be his vice president! =3D-) PJ -----Original Message----- From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight Sent: Fri, Jul 29, 2011 2:02 am Subject: Re: questions for loopers Jeff for president! On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 4:15 AM, Todd Matthews wrote= : > I heart Jeff Larson. > On Jul 28, 2011, at 8:15 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > >> >> 1) what aspects of looping do you enjoy the most? >> >> It's a toss up between the lavish backstage riders and the groupies. >> The money is nice of course, but it's secondary to pleasing my fans. >> Ultimately, I really like playing with myself. >> >> 12) any additional comments? >> >> I like turtles. >> > > -------------------- > Todd Matthews > toddbass.com > twitter: gtodd876 > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com =20 ----------MB_8CE1BFC2BBC0DF3_2504_4E7B3_webmail-d086.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Only if the Turtle is going to be his vice president!
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Jeff for president!

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 4:15 AM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote:
> I heart Jeff Larson.
> On Jul 28, 2011, at 8:15 PM, Jeff Larson wrote:
>
>>
>> 1) what aspects of looping do you enjoy the most?
>>
>> It's a toss up between the lavish backstage riders and the groupie=
s.
>> The money is nice of course, but it's secondary to pleasing my fan=
s.
>> Ultimately, I really like playing with myself.
>>
>> 12) any additional comments?
>>
>> I like turtles.
>>
>
> --------------------
> Todd Matthews
> toddbass.com
> twitter: gtodd876
>
>



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You can't access all the great features without the Sidecar but for now it's great-the sound is VERY clean, plenty of loop time, the footswitches are completely silent, and having multiple loops that never drift? Priceless . . . It also has a very solid build (and it's made in Texas 8)) And it's user configurable, I moved the "bonus" controls to where I need them-but still don't have a footswitch assigned to stop all loops at once . . . _____ From: Louie Angulo [mailto:louie.angulo@googlemail.com] Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 2:57 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang Sidecar thanx for the hinsight Gary,let me know how it works for you without the sidecar im observing it as well and debating to eventually purchase it as well say do they sell it at guitar center in SD? dont see it offered in their website though i know they carried it previously awesome features though i keep hearing is too much tapdance without the sidecar cheers Luis On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote: I have the 'Rang and have been making it fit into my loop pedal setup- Spoke with Mike today and he confirmed that the Sidecar is $209 from him (that includes a modest discount) plus shipping . . . So around $225 to most places in the US. I am going to try to do without the Sidecar for now, got the expression pedal to work on feedback-nice to have rock solid multiple loops for the "one man band" approach . . . G _____ From: Paul Richards [mailto:paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 6:52 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar $400!? That's almost as much as the Boomerang! --- On Mon, 7/25/11, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote: From: Clayton Gary Lehmann Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 7:14 PM I just got off the phone with Mike Nelson at Boomerang and he confirmed they have in stock and are shipping the Sidecar, a proprietary foot controller for the Boomerang III. I didn't ask him how much, but IIRC it's somewhere around $400 list. Of course, he can't discount it without pissing off his vendors, but give him a call and see what he can do for you. Gnarly -- www.luis-angulo.com ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01CC4DCE.9E6F2E70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Boomerang III is special order at = GC . . .

You can’t access all the = great features without the Sidecar but for now it’s great—the sound is VERY = clean, plenty of loop time, the footswitches are completely silent, and having multiple = loops that never drift? Priceless . . . It also has a very solid build (and = it’s made in Texas 8))

And it’s user configurable, I = moved the “bonus” controls to where I need them—but still don’t have a = footswitch assigned to stop all loops at once . . .

 

From: Louie = Angulo [mailto:louie.angulo@googlemail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 29, = 2011 2:57 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Boomerang = Sidecar

 

thanx for the hinsight Gary,let me know how it works for you without the = sidecar 

im observing it as well and debating to eventually purchase it = as well

say do they sell it at guitar center in SD? dont see it offered = in their website though i know they carried it = previously

awesome features though i keep hearing is too much tapdance without the sidecar

cheers

Luis

 

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Clayton Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net> = wrote:

I have the ‘Rang and have been making it fit into my = loop pedal setup—

Spoke with Mike today and he confirmed that the Sidecar is = $209 from him (that includes a modest discount) plus shipping . . = .

So around $225 to most places in the US.=

I am going to try to do without the Sidecar for now, got the expression pedal to work on feedback—nice to have rock solid = multiple loops for the “one man band” approach . . = .

G

 

From: Paul Richards [mailto:paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, July 25, = 2011 6:52 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: Boomerang = Sidecar

 

$400!? That's almost as much as the Boomerang!

--- On Mon, 7/25/11, Clayton Gary = Lehmann <hqr@cox.net> wrote:


From: Clayton Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net>
Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 7:14 PM

I = just got off the phone with Mike Nelson at Boomerang and he confirmed they
have in stock and are shipping the Sidecar, a proprietary foot = controller
for the Boomerang III. I didn't ask him how much, but IIRC it's = somewhere
around $400 list.
Of course, he can't discount it without pissing off his vendors, but = give
him a call and see what he can do for you.
Gnarly

 




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You can=E2=80=99t access all the great features without the Sidecar but for= now it=E2=80=99s great=E2=80=94the sound is VERY clean, plenty of loop tim= e, the footswitches are completely silent, and having multiple loops that n= ever drift? Priceless . . . It also has a very solid build (and it=E2=80=99= s made in Texas 8)) And it=E2=80=99s user configurable, I moved the =E2=80=9Cbonus=E2=80=9D con= trols to where I need them=E2=80=94but still don=E2=80=99t have a footswitc= h assigned to stop all loops at once . . . =C2=A0 From: Louie Angulo [mailto:louie.angulo@googlemail.com]=20 Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 2:57 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang Sidecar =C2=A0 thanx for the hinsight Gary ,let me know how it works for you without the s= idecar=C2=A0 im observing it as well and debating to eventually purchase it as well say do they sell it at guitar center in SD? dont see it offered in their we= bsite though i know they carried it previously awesome features though=C2=A0i keep hearing is too much tapdance without th= e sidecar cheers Luis =C2=A0 On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote: I have the =E2=80=98Rang and have been making it fit into my loop pedal set= up=E2=80=94 Spoke with Mike today and he confirmed that the Sidecar is $209 from him (t= hat includes a modest discount) plus shipping . . . So around $225 to most places in the US . I am going to try to do without the Sidecar for now, got the expression ped= al to work on feedback=E2=80=94nice to have rock solid multiple loops for t= he =E2=80=9Cone man band=E2=80=9D approach . . . G =C2=A0 From: Paul Richards [mailto:paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com]=20 Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 6:52 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar =C2=A0 $400!? That's almost as much as the Boomerang! --- On Mon, 7/25/11, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote: From: Clayton Gary Lehmann Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 7:14 PM I just got off the phone with Mike Nelson at Boomerang and he confirmed the= y have in stock and are shipping the Sidecar, a proprietary foot controller for the Boomerang III. I didn't ask him how much, but IIRC it's somewhere around $400 list. Of course, he can't discount it without pissing off his vendors, but give him a call and see what he can do for you. Gnarly =C2=A0 --=20 www.luis-angulo.com --0-567895375-1311956886=:4841 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= /tr>

One thing (as the manual states) is = to ensure all inputs & outputs are inserted prior to powering on the un= it - otherwise, one can encounter anomalous problems - as in no sound.=
 
BTW, Mr. Nelson, if you read these posts, I'd like to recommend a diag= ram/photo of the boomerang in the documentation so one can actually see wha= t buttons, et al are being referred to in the manual (I usually don't take = my hardware into the crapper but do peruse manuals while on the throne). :)=
 
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--- On Fri, 7/29/11, Clayton Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net&g= t; wrote:

From: Clayton Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net>Subject: Boomerang III and Sidecar option
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-d= elight.com
Date: Friday, July 29, 2011, 12:05 PM

= Boomerang = III is special order at GC . . .

= You can=E2= =80=99t access all the great features without the Sidecar but for now it=E2= =80=99s great=E2=80=94the sound is VERY clean, plenty of loop time, the foo= tswitches are completely silent, and having multiple loops that never drift= ? Priceless . . . It also has a very solid build (and it=E2=80=99s made in = Texas 8))

= And it=E2= =80=99s user configurable, I moved the =E2=80=9Cbonus=E2=80=9D controls to = where I need them=E2=80=94but still don=E2=80=99t have a footswitch assigne= d to stop all loops at once . . .

=  

From:= Louie Angulo [mailto:louie.angulo@googlemail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 2= :57 AM
To: Loopers-Delig= ht@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Boomerang Sidecar

<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> 

<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">thanx for the hinsight Gary ,let me know how= it works for you without the sidecar 

<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">im observing it as well and debating to even= tually purchase it as well

<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">say do they sell it at guitar center in SD? = dont see it offered in their website though i know they carried it previous= ly

<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">awesome features though i keep hearing = is too much tapdance without the sidecar

<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">cheers

<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Luis

<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> 

<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Clayton Gar= y Lehmann <hqr= @cox.net> wrote:

= I have the= =E2=80=98Rang and have been making it fit into my loop pedal setup=E2=80= =94

= Spoke with= Mike today and he confirmed that the Sidecar is $209 from him (that includ= es a modest discount) plus shipping . . .

= So around = $225 to most places in the US .

= I am going= to try to do without the Sidecar for now, got the expression pedal to work= on feedback=E2=80=94nice to have rock solid multiple loops for the =E2=80= =9Cone man band=E2=80=9D approach . . .

= G

=  

From:= Paul Richards [mailto:paulrichard_rocks@= yahoo.com]
Sent: Mo= nday, July 25, 2011 6:52 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<= /A>
Subject: RE: Boomera= ng Sidecar

<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> 

<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">$400!? That's almost as much as the Boomeran= g!

--- On Mon, 7/25/11, Clayton= Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net> wrote:


From: Cla= yton Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net>
Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Mo= nday, July 25, 2011, 7:14 PM

I just got of= f the phone with Mike Nelson at Boomerang and he confirmed they
have in = stock and are shipping the Sidecar, a proprietary foot controller
for th= e Boomerang III. I didn't ask him how much, but IIRC it's somewhere
arou= nd $400 list.
Of course, he can't discount it without pissing off his ve= ndors, but give
him a call and see what he can do for you.
Gnarly

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<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">


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--0-567895375-1311956886=:4841-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 29 17:28:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 59C6C18345E; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 17:28:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=Eq6/CFpufMEZW7XpNCkugab3BZDLHeGOv44aLcPRprk=; b=JPHMc7nJM/M1lTgM56okl0m9CpXpA5oGnd4IUWih4GmYAuUNLmPHKmB1NHPuGArJe+ G9xayTl56RYx+44DNdG4XfftYulmOHGhtkGROlgUXkiT3LiEbPs1nMc/GiO3pq/oZXh6 XdpHzmWBgH7+AFlmW/1vN6YtPXGn0DZ2dOfx4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 19:28:07 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: hQ6YKi4yOY7w01ywm8vtoG9hg80 Message-ID: Subject: Re: questions for loopers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e860e0bba8304a9389c80 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111114 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 17:28:29 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e860e0bba8304a9389c80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jon! > > 1) what aspects of looping do you enjoy the most? > Making a bigger noise than I could before.. I mean making a full complete piece of music with all elements. As a solo performer with very little friends, its important to me that I dont become a solo guitarist. I have never had the skills for that, and looping helps me cheat. However I dont think of it as cheating as my favorite types of music could be played by monkeys. Thats the Ape type not the sixties combo. > > 2) what aspects of looping do you enjoy the least? > Technical problems... > > 3) what looping tools (including controllers) do you currently > use/have used in the past? > I have never been able to "upgrade" to software, as I have fallen in love with all my loopers over the years and still use them all. Lack of cash has stopped me from getting a decent sound card to fully explore the software route, and the LP1 is still hanging there like a apple to me. I have used and still use. 2 EDP=B4s a repeater and a vortex. I recently snagged a Kaos pad, but its not quite working out for me. I amd consdering losing one EDP, selling a synth and getting an LP1. I have alos worked with Mobius withing Abelton Live and Audio Mulch and would go that way if I had more time and money to totally re wrok my rig. > > 4) what are the strengths of these tools? > All said before. But EDP - loop windowing Repeater, the pitch shift The Vortex, the "cloud looping" techniques.. (small loops, grabbed and manipulated...) and the morphing... Mobius, to many strengths to mention... I just dont have time to spend fiddling with computers in my time off... > 5) what are the weaknesses of these tools? > EDP, hissy and occasionally probelmatic.. (right now I have a problem with one where the volume of the feedback comes back unfeasably loud... I think its a setting Ive accidentaly set by sending weird midi...) Repeater - also hissy (mines un-modified) not wide enough midi synch speed Vortex, sometimes hissy, no bypass . Could be wilder presets.. a waste of u= n saveable memory locations. But no real crits, it is what it is... Mobius, Well see above, computers, beginning to hate them... > 6) do you modify a loop once it's been created? if so, how? > > YEs, apart from "in looper" modifications that I dont consider modifications. I routinely run loops through: Roland EX303 , a few stomp pitch shifters, ring modulation, a modular synth, > 7) how much planning do you do for a particular performance? > None in the studio, good ideas are remembered and used in performance, usually turning out totally different, but I used many different sounds, no= t just "guitar with reverb" So I have to plan what synth patches to use or effect patches I use in case I select Pan Pipes by accident... > > 8) what form does this planning take? (do you write it down, keep it > in your head, etc) > Head.. plus I write on stickers, that adorn the item that its a memo for..= . mostely good patch numbers > > 9) at what level of detail do you plan? (melody, harmony, timbres, > dynamics, instrumental techniques, etc.) > Nope, none of the above, but I do plan a process. Varies so wildly it not worth mentioning. But a for instance might be. Ill decide to play a minimal timpani aprpegio from my GR30 guitar synth into one edp. then I play the same thing into the other but with a longer loop, Then sit back and watch them "polyrythemselves".. Cut same size bits out of both loops, and then start a drum loop on the repeater, that is in time but not heard, the audio may be used as a audio carrier on the Vocodor patch of the EX303, and then Ill morph into that slowly, so the edps are producing the music, and the drum loop is producing the rythym. > > 10) describe your general approach to loop performance. > Have a start, and middle and an end planned... The performance is a struggl= e to get from one to the next!!! > > 11) what would the ideal looping system look like? describe it in as > much detail as you can (and don't worry about practical concerns). > A small black box with wires to my brain... > > 12) any additional comments? > > > > If for some reason you don't want your answers to be public, you can > send them directly to me. > > Thanks! > > Jon > > --=20 *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba6e860e0bba8304a9389c80 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jon!

1) what aspects of looping do you enjoy the most?

= Making a bigger noise than I could before..=A0 I mean making a full complet= e piece of music with all elements. As a solo performer with very little fr= iends, its important to me that I dont become a solo guitarist. I have neve= r had the skills for that, and looping helps me cheat. However I dont think= of it as cheating as my favorite types of music could be played by monkeys= . Thats the Ape type not the sixties combo.
=A0

2) what aspects of looping do you enjoy the least?
Technical problems...
=A0

3) what looping tools (including controllers) do you currently
use/have used in the past?

I have never been able = to "upgrade" to software, as I have fallen in love with all my lo= opers over the years and still use them all. Lack of cash has stopped me fr= om getting a decent sound card to fully explore the software route, and the= LP1 is still hanging there like a apple to me.

I have used and still use. 2 EDP=B4s a repeater and a vortex. I recentl= y snagged a Kaos pad, but its not quite working out for me.
I amd consde= ring losing one EDP, selling a synth and getting an LP1.

I have alos= worked with Mobius withing Abelton Live and Audio Mulch and would go that = way if I had more time and money to totally re wrok my rig.


=A0

4) what are the strengths of these tools?

All said= before. But
EDP=A0 - loop windowing

Repeater, the pitch shift
The Vortex, the "cloud looping" techniques.. (small loops, g= rabbed and manipulated...) and the morphing...

Mobius, to many strengths to mention... I just dont have time to spend = fiddling with computers in my time off...



5) what are the weaknesses of these tools?

EDP, hi= ssy and occasionally probelmatic.. (right now I have a problem with one whe= re the volume of the feedback comes back unfeasably loud... I think its a s= etting Ive accidentaly set by sending weird midi...)

Repeater - also hissy (mines un-modified) not wide enough midi synch sp= eed

Vortex, sometimes hissy, no bypass . Could be wilder presets.. a= waste of un saveable memory locations. But no real crits, it is what it is= ...

Mobius,=A0 Well see above, computers, beginning to hate them...

=

6) do you modify a loop once it's been created? if so, how?


YEs, apart from "in looper" modificatio= ns that I dont consider modifications. I routinely run loops through:
R= oland=A0 EX303 , a few stomp pitch shifters, ring modulation, a modular syn= th,

=A0
7) how much planning do you do for a particular performance?

None in the studio, good ideas are remembered and used in perfor= mance, usually turning out totally different, but I used many different sou= nds, not just "guitar with reverb" So I have to plan what synth p= atches to use or effect patches I use in case I select Pan Pipes by acciden= t...
=A0

8) what form does this planning take? (do you write it down, keep it
in your head, etc)
=A0Head.. plus I write on stickers,= that adorn the item that its a memo for... mostely good patch numbers
<= br>=A0

9) at what level of detail do you plan? (melody, harmony, timbres,
dynamics, instrumental techniques, etc.)


Nope,= none of the above, but I do plan a process. Varies so wildly it not worth = mentioning. But a for instance might be. Ill decide to play a minimal timpa= ni aprpegio from my GR30 guitar synth into one edp. then I play the same th= ing into the other but with a longer loop, Then sit back and watch them &qu= ot;polyrythemselves".. Cut same size bits out of both loops, and then = start a drum loop on the repeater, that is in time but not heard, the audio= may be used as a audio carrier on the Vocodor patch of the EX303, and then= Ill morph into that slowly, so the edps are producing the music, and the d= rum loop is producing the rythym.


=A0

10) describe your general approach to loop performance.

Have a start, and middle and an end planned... The performance is a s= truggle to get from one to the next!!!
=A0

11) what would the ideal looping system look like? describe it in as
much detail as you can (and don't worry about practical concerns).
<= /blockquote>

A small black box with wires to my brain...

=A0=

12) any additional comments?



If for some reason you don't want your answers to be public, you can send them directly to me.

Thanks!

Jon




--
M= ark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--90e6ba6e860e0bba8304a9389c80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 29 17:46:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80B8F18345E; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 17:46:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5LG/HMngmPzgFHtOnxyGEJVKnypOEskIBaChtsWyd3E=; b=nqVzm/pWfekd5BozIzQzZPk/zDcs7AM5RiQkz7cWlmkiu1YUSe/YCPt/HtedCdK1Ci biHwlli5yCHai108bB83v9KtuBnw8ECtEJj6oHalhOhQwSnl2UkrJplORftZMRDFjEWs Qwxwk2tBGYYV4+JSJe/kPniIX2BWfwrEIO77E= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:45:59 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: questions for loopers From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <49RcJD.A._sG.YHvMOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111115 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 17:46:00 +0000 (UTC) > Vortex, sometimes hissy, no bypass . Could be wilder presets.. a waste of= un > saveable memory locations. But no real crits, it is what it is... Actually you can bypass the Vortex through the last of the four footswitches (the other three are tap, morph, and user patch select I think). No way to access it other than the footswitch though (that I know of). Love my Vortex but it does get noisy. Kevin --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 29 17:50:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2764D18345E; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 17:50:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=s6CgE2da6UapoyxRx89165OU86C0Notlda1Wbx7DV3E=; b=F3Shc5ZzKCQloO2sQtNLsig91PCKDmvBaALAeYyXy7bmMC6Ie+hd5N+Ve1xCqcgy6c 4EECnjON8upW141RhLr5Twomal7l/QHckey038wViPvU5Un2ikim6hSZswnvYnTUAkET s9ErxBapUi5Z+CtFCz7X7iX5AO3fMdTH6hhLg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 19:50:14 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: OT Linguistica (Re: questions for loopers) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111116 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 17:50:15 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 7:28 PM, mark francombe wrote: > if I had more time and money to totally re wrok my rig. > What does "wrok" mean? An anagram on "rework"? "Wreck"? "Wok"? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 29 17:55:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1BE318345E; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 17:55:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 643688205/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.123.185/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.123.185 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkACAIrzMk5PRnu5/2dsb2JhbAAMKQEFPkYSLSIPCQMCAQIBAjQdJQGYUNgIhkEEl3GLbQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.67,288,1309734000"; d="scan'208";a="643688205" Message-ID: <4E32F41D.9060304@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 18:55:41 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: vortex Bypass References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111117 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 17:55:15 +0000 (UTC) Mark wrote > Vortex, no bypass . Actually it does, but you have to use a footswitch. (a simple mono one will do). ...or you just mean it doesn't have bypass on the front panel? (in which case I guess I'm *not* helping) andy from deep in the *secret patch* laboratory From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 29 17:57:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44DA4183457; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 17:57:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 650173058/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.123.185/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.123.185 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkECACzzMk5PRnu5/2dsb2JhbAAMKAEBBSkVRhIMGAICBSILAgIJAwIBAgECUR4HAYRPlAHHCpEDgSuEBoEQBJdxi20 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.67,288,1309734000"; d="scan'208";a="650173058" Message-ID: <4E32F487.7000205@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 18:57:27 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Linguistica (Re: questions for loopers) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111118 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 17:57:00 +0000 (UTC) it's work + grok Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 7:28 PM, mark francombe wrote: >> if I had more time and money to totally re wrok my rig. >> > > What does "wrok" mean? An anagram on "rework"? "Wreck"? "Wok"? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 29 18:13:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5FE2F18345E; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 18:13:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=uZq7F75zTD2Zwf/4/xLl2Y5jlxmvAr94Ng9HFvxJBAE=; b=lqT90FsUxd0MvisiTV+FnjpBzGQQbqbMdsW3dOdx09IKywxj80zGilAhejZiZdlzJc /StOBencS8a9cNKMXUCFp158rNHqc3B/lIt6RERyBihRx5bP1H/wLeofonjT2HCL8Sru 2A88SftrxtCAVYW3e4D86Xd9O8Lh6QM15ImU8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E32F487.7000205@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4E32F487.7000205@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 20:13:25 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Linguistica (Re: questions for loopers) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111119 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 18:13:26 +0000 (UTC) Ok, thanks. P :-) On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 7:57 PM, andy butler wrote: > it's work + grok > > > > Per Boysen wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 7:28 PM, mark francombe >> wrote: >>> >>> if I had more time and money to totally re wrok my rig. >>> >> >> What does "wrok" mean? An anagram on "rework"? "Wreck"? "Wok"? > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 29 18:17:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BEE4018345D; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 18:17:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=qI+jCgeorsNRX5iqvhxBYAPVB/8SQd3V2YrVVRFi244=; b=hsIuPJPV5dALFdsO4U8rQ2i3B70JrGZDy07GTEHBpcSNzRVObAHk3ePC1NHJqVY25d yqLQr01ybABfZqk5aEj72KG3zsDU4G0NopsX+fwubSKhkjuPADP+6WYMWyh15HaLdZ8v KshrIUA7e7YQsXpoV2QbPVABb3YfXqKq0mqCM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 14:17:44 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Linguistica (Re: questions for loopers) From: Brian Good To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec517c5563c600c04a9394c1e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111120 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 18:17:44 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec517c5563c600c04a9394c1e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It's a form of popular music, more often known as "wrok and wroll." On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 7:28 PM, mark francombe > wrote: > > if I had more time and money to totally re wrok my rig. > > > > What does "wrok" mean? An anagram on "rework"? "Wreck"? "Wok"? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > --bcaec517c5563c600c04a9394c1e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's a form of popular music, more often known as "wrok and wroll.= "

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:50 PM, P= er Boysen <perb= oysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jul 29, 2= 011 at 7:28 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> if I had more time and money to totally re wrok my rig.
>

What does "wrok" mean? An anagram on "rework"? "Wr= eck"? "Wok"?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub


--bcaec517c5563c600c04a9394c1e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 29 18:52:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 413B9183462; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 18:52:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zJHjqhneQGJ3q+JmG1f+UL/V+mt9W64B8H4GrzUdwug=; b=dkZx1pbUKoVW8XNPsQz+n9UIi8P0dix04U/J1PLMN3c4MMvdy2vv5FbRW9A78Hgiwz NidiKMvw02m0Vocf+Zk6CMJqWmVzafvanHj2csS8p4VvfpbjlnMTh6rJ6yHyjxiOUxbH qxZoXJMcIifNUkN77N21gDSHMApbUmcXCmTPM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <88CF64DC-565E-4966-A985-A35F5DF174A4@kliklak.net> References: <88CF64DC-565E-4966-A985-A35F5DF174A4@kliklak.net> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 11:52:01 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ACF Bootleg spam From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111121 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 18:52:02 +0000 (UTC) Just wanted to say I've been enjoying these all morning. A nice variety of sounds and textures. Thanks, Kevin On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 7:30 AM, jayrope LD wrote: > Here's a selection of downloadable bootlegs from a variety of Air Cushion= Finish's concerts during the last years. > > http://www.aircushionfinish.com/bootlegs/ > > Air Cushion Finish means looping, too, if just as one of the means of exp= loring Krautrock, Postfolk, Ambient, in cathedral dub space or dry like a s= izzle, shaped by the dial of the wind, while eventually Nino Rota stands in= the background in dappled shade, surely chuckling. > Music for gallery spaces, boys choirs for enchanted ladies, Echtzeitmusik= for slow searchers. > > Hope you'll enjoy, and thanx in advance for giving it a listen. > (If so, why not leave a comment there) > > j > - - - > jayrope > http://www.kliklak.net > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 29 19:18:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A38B918345F; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 19:18:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=jRShyPCzAw1kA/xdBN6s5dRBPictEUlZMQ8HtR+AMnA=; b=vKDCLvAO7EWXxMsvBgZM6EjIFkw+uTQa69ssIEG+NAsG66zTdEOIF7gpEExa21J0zx JN3PzRc8ztrhfQwTRAGz1NHkfGeSkDCrkO3y0onNcIYpmfhJ75/V5ccQEIB15fhNivM8 7Ni/VzmrQ7IDwU1gK4aHqYirC58KsQ0FKl1pM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 21:18:15 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: m8fRDiBT2dwdlBIw2Z27HBdIOtU Message-ID: Subject: Re: questions for loopers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6137b2de933104a93a25cc Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111122 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 19:18:36 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6137b2de933104a93a25cc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I know that Kev, but the unit is not out of the chain when bypassed, it not a big point as almost none of my gear does that, not even the fireworx. personally I rarely use the tap function as I have hardwired the edp to Vortex synch solution inside my Vortex. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > Actually you can bypass the Vortex through the last of the four > footswitches (the other three are tap, morph, and user patch select I > think). No way to access it other than the footswitch though (that I > know of). > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba6137b2de933104a93a25cc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know that Kev, but the unit is not out of the chain when bypassed, it not= a big point as almost none of my gear does that, not even the fireworx.personally I rarely use the tap function as I have hardwired the edp to Vo= rtex synch solution inside my Vortex.

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Kevin Cheli= -Colando <bill= owhead@gmail.com> wrote:
Actually you can bypass the Vortex through the last of the= four
footswitches (the other three are tap, morph, and user patch select I
think). =A0No way to access it other than the footswitch though (that I
know of).



--
Ma= rk Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--90e6ba6137b2de933104a93a25cc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 29 19:21:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 782FD183462; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 19:21:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=dKymUN7MkWqMRUUKZwIRKQ4y0hSJsm3DOy1XhTWeFL4=; b=PgeRK1mWFwaRlfz1jShQlodXLaa17q+MMwDEpMBmetMwxWjFeanEbpbCVqXPffa+Dk 0sq2/HeiB9jgmzafdeuyQD8TCxE+zice4EIir3b1fmA3SpXMVnayeQe0RrwM1s+BOUsq HP7QT8VN/fZYqHW0z9c0bv54kak+HQGj281+8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4E32F41D.9060304@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4E32F41D.9060304@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 21:20:51 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: rlTsaA6ITS5U2a8CGD9-VCD5b4s Message-ID: Subject: Re: vortex Bypass To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8e5826c63004a93a2f47 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111123 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 19:21:13 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8e5826c63004a93a2f47 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 7:55 PM, andy butler wrote: > Mark wrote > >> Vortex, no bypass . >> > > Actually it does, but you have to use a footswitch. > (a simple mono one will do). > yeah yeah yeah... but its not a.... yawn... oh you know what I mean Andy...? > > ...or you just mean it doesn't have bypass on the front panel? > (in which case I guess I'm *not* helping) > Mine does now... along with a few other *secret switches* > > > andy > from deep in the *secret patch* laboratory > > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba6e8e5826c63004a93a2f47 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 7:55 PM, andy bu= tler <akbutl= er@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
Mark wrote
Vortex, no bypass .

Actually it does, but you have to use a footswitch.
(a simple mono one will do).

yeah yeah yeah... but= its not a.... yawn... oh you know what I mean Andy...?=A0

...or you just mean it doesn't have bypass on the front panel?
(in which case I guess I'm *not* helping)

Min= e does now... along with a few other *secret switches*
=A0


andy
from deep in the *secret patch* laboratory





--
Mark Fra= ncombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--90e6ba6e8e5826c63004a93a2f47-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 29 19:22:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE063183462; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 19:22:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 177210.46882.bm@omp1043.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1311967329; bh=Std8UMeeTq3S3AfRuVvxceK9Qx2aORTojuSEopdCk8w=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=k3hIt0+cW9KhgPHEw0xkmt6nPQQUi+R9QP+zemvXqOyr99x1gLBollejE/juntGk/m2md08ge6fWf5EY/KDkBjIeXKgDA0K/yfldWTKZO+gSnTx4NJVFRUa+ToBCj/Nmnmi7q3uCSNCfJg8Hy4ZuokqI4kwRr5HGM4AecuNC5sg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=eNIA57twVSWYMCKF6P5/LGhVgLAQipuDyyAAP2UwURQpmrqxazbKtSQcHCzxOftvyqMSLSPdAYLG+MkdfqVnk7JkamNN+AqO5mGR86R6jWNoOAbOvZuqSRk0hrG6pkCjq3ftleqvuHh65C07zhxhfN/elwp8g3hzG2zOGYM2Zpo=; X-YMail-OSG: Ez6AG1UVM1l24FiKsKXLFl9e2_jBfb9bA.NwE2qJ0DjUcDe mrtv.XmVFac2.Z3US9PT_..T5jvwFhcemb9gWbejNKR3yAnZhmKoPCA5v8Xf C1BVn.gYfz5Kb_cfUX_axH1RvEwrSKW2zPFeeaPqJT3l3oxFMQwhgKjkvGpq P60FhAcibn0VukyJPCf300g74cGMDPk63umPS5EtvHQKoaH.tGD5Mf25A60w Zl.aATroPukA2ZRSJpWjxLF8fob6CCKvXx3McAQx9nD80uTMoh4xiA1vWDBk cWuc1SsDiLsMdUEdWkXex74W8CBcUZ1ySaW2Ds7K3GekI6phC2bdQIRVCpAo vfLCNM.dlSAIYmJAdMZfi5O2vHrQXCcI7WijUJbVmA_OBl86SYGGBB9wsWqN TyLgD4spUAqoN68s- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.112.310352 Message-ID: <1311967329.73828.YahooMailClassic@web38401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 12:22:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Elmer Fuddski Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-938358989-1311967329=:73828" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111124 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 19:22:10 +0000 (UTC) --0-938358989-1311967329=:73828 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Next time, do some fact checking before getting people all riled up! I was = ready to throw myself under a train. --- On Thu, 7/28/11, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote: From: Clayton Gary Lehmann Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thursday, July 28, 2011, 10:32 PM I have the =E2=80=98Rang and have been making it fit into my loop pedal set= up=E2=80=94 Spoke with Mike today and he confirmed that the Sidecar is $209 from him (t= hat includes a modest discount) plus shipping . . . So around $225 to most places in the US . I am going to try to do without the Sidecar for now, got the expression ped= al to work on feedback=E2=80=94nice to have rock solid multiple loops for t= he =E2=80=9Cone man band=E2=80=9D approach . . . G =C2=A0 From: Paul Richards [mailto:paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com]=20 Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 6:52 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar =C2=A0 $400!? That's almost as much as the Boomerang! --- On Mon, 7/25/11, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote: From: Clayton Gary Lehmann Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 7:14 PM I just got off the phone with Mike Nelson at Boomerang and he confirmed the= y have in stock and are shipping the Sidecar, a proprietary foot controller for the Boomerang III. I didn't ask him how much, but IIRC it's somewhere around $400 list. Of course, he can't discount it without pissing off his vendors, but give him a call and see what he can do for you. Gnarly =C2=A0 --0-938358989-1311967329=:73828 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Next time, do some fact checking before getti= ng people all riled up! I was ready to throw myself under a train.

-= -- On Thu, 7/28/11, Clayton Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net> = wrote:

From: Clayton Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net>Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<= BR>Date: Thursday, July 28, 2011, 10:32 PM

= I have the= =E2=80=98Rang and have been making it fit into my loop pedal setup=E2=80= =94

= Spoke with= Mike today and he confirmed that the Sidecar is $209 from him (that includ= es a modest discount) plus shipping . . .

= So around = $225 to most places in the US .

= I am going= to try to do without the Sidecar for now, got the expression pedal to work= on feedback=E2=80=94nice to have rock solid multiple loops for the =E2=80= =9Cone man band=E2=80=9D approach . . .

= G

=  

From:= Paul Richards [mailto:paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com]
<= B>Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 = 6:52 PM
To: Loopers-Deli= ght@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar

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<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">$400!? That's almost as much as the Boomeran= g!

--- On Mon, 7/25/11, Clayton= Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net> wrote:


From: Cla= yton Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net>
Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar
= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 7:1= 4 PM

I just got of= f the phone with Mike Nelson at Boomerang and he confirmed they
have in = stock and are shipping the Sidecar, a proprietary foot controller
for th= e Boomerang III. I didn't ask him how much, but IIRC it's somewhere
arou= nd $400 list.
Of course, he can't discount it without pissing off his ve= ndors, but give
him a call and see what he can do for you.
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--0-938358989-1311967329=:73828-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 29 19:26:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02669183463; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 19:26:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020201.4E33096A.0102,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=gWJ3tSwlVG9+9Bc0QwsTfgzr7y6rw8iGroUsY2aLSe8= c=1 sm=1 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:17 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=-JWzSUsKqc1oS9uMiykA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=IDQZPWAOk3jkEbRLu4diLA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Clayton Gary Lehmann" To: References: <1311967329.73828.YahooMailClassic@web38401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 12:26:30 -0700 Message-ID: <655B93E02D344F70AA8FD69F231535A6@your0548c161e1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <1311967329.73828.YahooMailClassic@web38401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: AcxOJNENwPKNfboJSZyP4Je4lfAqNAAAEdIg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111125 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 19:26:35 +0000 (UTC) Yes of course you are right . . . However, as I mentioned to Mike this morning as I passed along Paul=92s suggestion, there is no such thing as bad publicity. Just to repeat, these things are flying out the door at $209. Maybe I get one . . . I think about it. G ________________________________________ From: Elmer Fuddski [mailto:jakebrakesrule@yahoo.com]=20 Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 12:22 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar Next time, do some fact checking before getting people all riled up! I = was ready to throw myself under a train. --- On Thu, 7/28/11, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote: I have the =91Rang and have been making it fit into my loop pedal = setup=97 Spoke with Mike today and he confirmed that the Sidecar is $209 from him (that includes a modest discount) plus shipping . . . So around $225 to most places in the US . I am going to try to do without the Sidecar for now, got the expression pedal to work on feedback=97nice to have rock solid multiple loops for = the =93one man band=94 approach . . . G =A0 ________________________________________ From: Paul Richards [mailto:paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com]=20 Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 6:52 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Boomerang Sidecar =A0 $400!? That's almost as much as the Boomerang! --- On Mon, 7/25/11, Clayton Gary Lehmann wrote: I just got off the phone with Mike Nelson at Boomerang and he confirmed = they have in stock and are shipping the Sidecar, a proprietary foot = controller for the Boomerang III. I didn't ask him how much, but IIRC it's = somewhere around $400 list. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 29 19:44:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 052B8183465; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 19:44:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Phil Clevenger Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Doepfer Pocket Fader Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 12:44:08 -0700 Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111126 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 19:44:13 +0000 (UTC) Anyone have a Doepfer Pocket Fader they'd like to sell? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 29 21:17:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DA5418345F; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 21:17:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E33234F.6010704@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 14:17:03 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Per Boysen CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Linguistica (Re: questions for loopers) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111127 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 21:17:07 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > What does "wrok" mean? An anagram on "rework"? "Wreck"? "Wok"? A wrok is a vesicle that one cooks Chinese food in. The 'r' is silent, Per. rick wralker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 29 22:09:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5141E183460; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 22:09:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E332FA0.7070904@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 18:09:36 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #747 for July 28, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111128 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 22:09:44 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/110728.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #747 July 28, 2011. RECAP: On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Jürgen Haible. The Featured CD at Midnight was "The Secret Life of Trees" which is a self- released title. Jürgen Haible: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#jul PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Aria Rostami Japanese Parisian Form (FatCat) Mark Jenkins Pulsator The iPad Album (AMP) Mark Jenkins Wavedrum The iPad Album (AMP) Radio Massacre Damanhur City 21 (Northern Echo) International Memory Geist Ocean Memory Benthos (DiN DDL) Takahashi Suzuki Resonance In Blue 4 Resonance (none) Jürgen Haible A Gracious Plenty The Secret Life of Trees(none) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Jürgen Haible The Secret Life of The Secret Life of Trees(none) Trees Jürgen Haible A Pasion in Eden The Secret Life of Trees(none) Jürgen Haible Deirdre's Confession The Secret Life of Trees(none) Jürgen Haible After the Fire The Secret Life of Trees(none) Jürgen Haible Grüne Lunge The Secret Life of Trees(none) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on Tomas Weiss and Mathias Grassow. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Aestrata" on Musical Philosophy Records. Weiss & Grassow: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#aug Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 30 01:10:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA53B183462; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 01:10:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=gUktrlmP0IKk6samkgyObV6ImWTEDXwxcrvFImxQGf8=; b=KkOLd/UyLILN/souxLuJrNvIJbowNDSMHAfi5r9Qbi/oPH5bBoQWP7JSzsMvSvWdll CHonw3y78G6lSsERTOZrOgRbwl19bDhLrKMnqE5gVEcVUADjJWvl9YTSAOI7yYwwRaw4 xzNOLxYLdoeIL2S19fn7XAX/dMiL6OotmZRMI= MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Charlie M Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 20:10:11 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: FS: a few Alesis ModFX To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00235407f006d70ad104a93f1011 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111129 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 01:10:38 +0000 (UTC) --00235407f006d70ad104a93f1011 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sorry if this is too OT, but I know that some loopers like the modFX series for mangling their loops, so I thought I'd see if anyone wanted my two. I've got a Philtre and a Bitrman for anyone interested. I live in Minneapolis and can meet up with anyone here, or can ship. I don't really know what these go for, but ebay seems to be kicking them out at 100 bucks a pop, so does 175 USD shipped sound fair? If it's international shipping, we will have to work out some kind of shipping deal, but I am not averse to doing that. Please contact me off list if you are interested :) Charlie --00235407f006d70ad104a93f1011 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry if this is too OT, but I know that some loopers like the modFX series= for mangling their loops, so I thought I'd see if anyone wanted my two= .=A0

I've got a Philtre and a Bitrman for anyone int= erested. I live in Minneapolis and can meet up with anyone here, or can shi= p. I don't really know what these go for, but ebay seems to be kicking = them out at 100 bucks a pop, so does 175 USD shipped sound fair? If it'= s international shipping, we will have to work out some kind of shipping de= al, but I am not averse to doing that. Please contact me off list if you ar= e interested :)=A0

Charlie
--00235407f006d70ad104a93f1011-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 30 04:26:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 832B7183466; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 04:26:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Funky Island Looping for Two Guitars Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: john floridis X-Priority: 3 (Normal) In-Reply-To: <5e652b1e97f92a39bc028d6f426b4cc2.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 22:26:30 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <5e652b1e97f92a39bc028d6f426b4cc2.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111130 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 04:26:37 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for sharing Andre. So cool to just to see friends making music = like that. Too often those of us who do it for a living don't take time = to just jam like that. =20 Again, thanks, John= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 30 07:36:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 969D2183462; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 07:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=dc7453fWgNyzD/SES0uE8zLGDRH5JgKFg4ZaAtAWQ40=; b=PBwlbzTrAwKhe7kI8pWHUq1BRUQGGJnwFRJ3FQ+D2IZQueRI8/jI2ScBY5K4LmDxs3 WOV943D8rIzgPBgObIeY0iqSNBa4PaLf8b2UnkuWx/gGvdTjIuaz+szDIQcLiUm1LBEY z3LVF4+7CPBJKVyRfhWCOqPiHTIJiBhtCqCo0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 09:36:25 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Linguistica (Re: questions for loopers) From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111131 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 07:36:26 +0000 (UTC) >> What does "wrok" mean? An anagram on "rework"? "Wreck"? "Wok"? > It's a form of popular music, more often known as "wrok and wroll." would it be fair to call them now the wrolling stones? they do look a bit wrinkle... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 30 10:57:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3BB24183474; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 10:57:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=SQ29iO/U9Tpn/r+cOhmR+UwNKu6gILvQUSl5dWX4ULQ=; b=DjsHu/wnQca0oX3XuwnF5UoaBDpM/PKUDRaBK50Pv5mprpq1obPvcQVv1Eq3V8Wiqb XXXnl4i3/UR1V0nZruPFBZ4IvxKZHhEmpeQPwIAtPZIw3UYaqcdJ2c1/Ra/XbrHR2+OP jdqUoCoLI7XPNYwKSKlAQYoM4/Po5xZw/JQZg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 12:57:54 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Linguistica (Re: questions for loopers) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <8UTlbB.A.HyB.zO-MOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111132 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 10:57:55 +0000 (UTC) >>> What does "wrok" mean? An anagram on "rework"? "Wreck"? "Wok"? >> It's a form of popular music, more often known as "wrok and wroll." > On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > would it be fair to call them now the wrolling stones? they do look a > bit wrinkle... > Yeah - now you're woking! Per :-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 30 13:10:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4DA9E183463; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 13:10:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E3402D2.8000200@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 06:10:42 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: OT A message of hope from Norway about their recent tragedy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111133 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 13:10:48 +0000 (UTC) A friend of mine received the following letter in the mail from a Norwegian friend about the recent tragic killings in Norway and I wanted to share it with everyone on this list as I find it very inspiring to read and it gave me hope. The way the Norwegian people have responded in toto to this tragedy shines the light ahead for how we can all treat the hatred, fear and separation that exists in the world today. This is a fantastic list of very creative people from all over the world. We are blessed to know each other and to be able to communicate with each other all the time. Peace and Love to you all, Rick Walker the letter: Thank you for messages of condolence and sympathy regarding the bombing in Oslo and shooting in a youth camp on a small island near Oslo. It warms to have you thinking of us. I have been able to reach almost all co-counsellors living in Norway. They have not been so close as to be injuried by the bombing and they were not present on the island during the attack. But many people here know survivors or victims or their relatives or friends. We are a small nation and youth delegations from all parts of Norway were present at the camp. I guess you know most of the cruelty from the news. I will not repeat. But I would like to share some hopeful and deeply moving things happening here: The prime minister, the head of police in the municipality of the attacked island, the king, the queen, leaders of different political parties,- they have all cried on national television. The leaders of the nation encourage people to hug, hold hands, be close, cry, tell their stories and listen to each other with love and respect. There is very little demand for revenge against the anti-islamic offender. Instead a collective agreement has been reached to embrace the values that the offender wished to destroy by creating a more open, friendly and inclusive society. A young woman said: “If one person can hate this much, think of all the love we are able to show together.” There has not been so many people out in the streets since the celebration of the end of World War II. On Monday in my town, there were muslims and Christians, young and old, - thousands and thousands of people hugging, giving flowers to each other, putting flowers on buildings and fences. A wonderful appeal was given: “Tonight the streets are filled with love.” This atmosphere of sister and brotherhood will probably fade as society goes back to normal. But something special and precious happened these days. It showed us what is possible and there are many, many who will make an effort to have this as a permanent part of society. It will definitely have an impact on the upcoming elections. Racist statements and extreme right wing sympathies will be very unpopular. Myself, I can’t help smile at every person I meet. Thinking: “You precious person, I am so glad you are alive.” I am proud of my people. Anne H. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 30 14:28:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 06EF4183463; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 14:28:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=NoS7gcSmcJJp2rHf2FnP8wK99OxIRkhlTT4uAZhz9bM=; b=U5LZWo3qyVmYDbOCYEV4eScqKrZuFTLPHKYx8Z0E1R/methsBYBSiO3BnFHeG6DZ2m Y8ZoovErWGCEt1JWODN9bUuDZ+uDitqAyL2MMQGw/j6q1f1Po5C5kfKT0ZtxYISRAKTQ /wD6Th5IkuCwscsL1Tg0TSg15ayYN8Lq6WpjE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E3402D2.8000200@cruzio.com> References: <4E3402D2.8000200@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 16:28:20 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT A message of hope from Norway about their recent tragedy From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111134 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 14:28:21 +0000 (UTC) Indeed, Norway handles this in a great way. I've been following it in the news and feel proud living in the neighboring country. The only way towards a better future is to meet terror with love and openness in a civilized (democratic) way. "Revenge" doesn't belong in a civilized society. But I think your friend's friend made a mistake in that letter by calling this criminal "the anti-islamic offender". The guy is a murderer, he committed a crime and for that he will be sentenced at court in a civilized way. I mean, civilized countries have laws to minimize crime and ensure a safe environment for everyone, we don't have laws to favor or repress a certain religion or political view. This understanding is exactly what this terrorist - and others - wants to blur! Not being cautious about using the proper words can lead to unintended picking up on terrorist's propaganda views and spreading them around. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > A friend of mine received the following letter in the mail from a Norwegian > friend about the > recent tragic killings in Norway and I wanted to share it with everyone on > this list > as I find it very inspiring to read and it gave me hope. > > The way the Norwegian people have responded in toto to this tragedy shines > the light > ahead for how we can all treat the hatred, fear and separation that exists > in the world today. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 30 14:50:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB949183460; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 14:50:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=gmK8kSEevHaLcO5PjzDk6yVYEuHsA1gTUc/BXZZwovA=; b=Jxfo19psb6PHievcCvx/PvJTcB0WYK39rCCk3TgetK0ASJObJwJn/WguVSqcHcAzf2 tSKbmqV3yeC8pTBqNRNHHXUbp6svMSb31xuCqLWNXC0QHS+0Uj72XXTLTu77agT/Lyhz aoBt+Nfa8jGH9NDC7vmsOjzPy/1//6FSfpgEI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4E3402D2.8000200@cruzio.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 16:49:57 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ItDDIK0rEzoREsoHoPWwfEIPRHs Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT A message of hope from Norway about their recent tragedy To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30363ae52de83004a94a8475 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111135 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 14:50:19 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30363ae52de83004a94a8475 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I agree with Per here, The murderers anti islamic stance is just a smoke screen for what his real aim was. That was unfortunately ... slaughter! Even calling him a terrorist is somewhat wrong IMHO. He is a mass-murderer, and giving him the luxury to hide behind a belief or doctrine, by calling him a terrorist is something that I struggle to explain to my friends. The word terrorism is bandied about so much these days its easy to forget that it has a definition. Thanks for the wonderful message from your friend Rick, there is so much to add. After the minutes silence on Monday which I wrote about in my blog http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?p=3D1395 ...there was a vague facebook group started by a private individual, where they called for everyone to gather together with roses on Tuesday... despit= e it not being an official thing, it became huge. Everyone from the Prime-minister to the Mayor of Oslo to the Crown Prince (the next King) wer= e there and I promise there was not a dry eye in Norway. >From an technical point of view, they organised and set up a huge stage, PA= , artistes to play a few songs.. in one day.. and I forget the number of people attending but well into the 100=B4s of 1000=B4s Without meaning to, this mad-man has strengthened the Norwegian people in ways that he hope to weaken, Oh and just to clear up a little error that Fox News was reporting. Norway DOES INDEED HAVE a maximum sentence of 21 years for murder. Indeed for any crime. In fact we laugh at the US Idea of a serial killer getting 250 years... But failed to be reported, is that 21 years is the time the Norwegian System believes it can reform a criminal. If they fail, the sentence can be increase by 5 years, and then another 5 years, and then another. So yes, a crime of passion (finding your wife in bed with the milkman) can be reduced to 5 year for good behavior... but I promise you, Anders Brevik Breier will never get out. --=20 *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --20cf30363ae52de83004a94a8475 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I agree with Per here,

The murderers anti islamic stance is just a = smoke screen for what his real aim was. That was unfortunately ... slaughte= r! Even calling him a terrorist is somewhat wrong IMHO. He is a mass-murder= er, and giving him the luxury to hide behind a belief or doctrine, by calli= ng him a terrorist is something that I struggle to explain to my friends. T= he word terrorism is bandied about so much these days its easy to forget th= at it has a definition.

Thanks for the wonderful message from your friend Rick, there is so muc= h to add.

After the minutes silence on Monday which I wrote about in= my blog
ht= tp://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?p=3D1395

...there was a vague facebook group started by a private individual, wh= ere they called for everyone to gather together with roses on Tuesday... de= spite it not being an official thing, it became huge. Everyone from the Pri= me-minister to the Mayor of Oslo to the Crown Prince (the next King) were t= here and I promise there was not a dry eye in Norway.
>From an technical point of view, they organised and set up a huge stage, PA= , artistes to play a few songs.. in one day.. and I forget the number of pe= ople attending but well into the 100=B4s of 1000=B4s

Without meaning= to, this mad-man has strengthened the Norwegian people in ways that he hop= e to weaken,

Oh and just to clear up a little error that Fox News was reporting. Nor= way DOES INDEED HAVE a maximum sentence of 21 years for murder. Indeed for = any crime. In fact we laugh at the US Idea of a serial killer getting 250 y= ears... But failed to be reported, is that 21 years is the time the Norwegi= an System believes it can reform a criminal. If they fail, the sentence can= be increase by 5 years, and then another 5 years, and then another. So yes= , a crime of passion (finding your wife in bed with the milkman) can be red= uced to 5 year for good behavior... but I promise you, Anders Brevik Breier= will never get out.



--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--20cf30363ae52de83004a94a8475-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 30 23:30:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5129F183474; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 23:30:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Brian Carabee" To: References: Subject: Just ordered my Boomerang Sidecar Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 19:30:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111136 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 23:30:44 +0000 (UTC) I just got off the phone with Mike Nelson and he's sending me out a nice new Sidecar on Monday. He's truly a great guy to do business with. I spoke with him for about a half hour, talking about his products and the state of the live music scene here in NY and down there in TX. The thing that strikes me is that he doesn't try to rush you off the phone. He connects in a very genuine way and that's very refreshing in this day and age. Living in NY, it's rare that I get to slow down and connect. I can't wait to get my delivery. Finally I'll have all the functionality of the Boomerang at my disposal without having to bend over during a gig to change functions. Hate the bending. The nice thing about ordering from Mike is that you know you're going to get a quality, tough, and well-engineered product. Experience has proven that. If anyone is considering a Boomerang, I give it my highest praise, especially now that the sidecar is here. The unit is tough, VERY forgiving with input levels, has great flat and quiet short-throw footswitches, and three modes of operation (Serial, free sync, and free). The sound is pristine. Well, I guess I'm just saying things that have all been said before, but it is very rare indeed that I will publically sing the praises of a product because there are always flaws that annoy me. Not so with the 'Rang. I guess I'm just a bit excited about the impending arrival of my new Sidecar. Brian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 31 02:43:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 974E3183462; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 02:43:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:content-type:date:subject:to:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=TI4/TWvVdG++lmOA9exln9aEXNLA3lQrzSA475NFm0Y=; b=iQYJJ7pO4Hw4iB5j/N2cpbcleT/7hibBbud+kgdggu3sCWVXhp7UA+mUPHEq+aP2Uv 2GM4yJRwgtpS2UJBx26WN5bsCZkeuwSbV0Kljdj3L11sBDSTuocFduaVlD1uam8Hc2Qh h//fe+s1cA3dmjR0WZ783G0KNl+tO0/gZINRQ= From: Matthias Grob Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-29-913011146 Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 04:42:56 +0200 Subject: EDP prices going up To: Loop List Message-Id: <663647E4-C5BC-41CC-A902-463A1394B60C@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111137 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 02:43:08 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-29-913011146 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii its amazing how in the past month, the EDP prices have been rising above = its original street price=20 the latest = http://cgi.ebay.ch/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D190560044849 reached US$ 875 although its the 5. sold in July, being that the others = had not much lower prices, even older machines. as usual, in Europe, prices have been even higher I find this especially amazing because for those who look for the thing, = its probably not unknown that the successor Evoloop is in development... = maybe they do not trust that we will finish it? :-) --Apple-Mail-29-913011146 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii its amazing how in the past month, the EDP prices have been rising above its original street price 
reached US$  875 although its the 5. sold in July, being that the others had not much lower prices, even older machines.
as usual, in Europe, prices have been even higher

I find this especially amazing because for those who look for the thing, its probably not unknown that the successor Evoloop is in development... maybe they do not trust that we will finish it? :-)

--Apple-Mail-29-913011146-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 31 02:49:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF8EE183463; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 02:49:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=o1cUl3NaIA/5TEdQLE/BwJ3Yxl6ucYmYfYyzKGdk3bE=; b=r/PhPsqoP340XooLgeZOa7iHjgm0Ebk1P0SK+IK5Wg3EHbJyf9RwKTuWlr3kVoPVr4 IqZhaAx3Ea+LqW5DuQQbDEqN26NB7zjMJ3G1E7vRn+bTeaM7xMNwOLvdQ7O+38wm0bFj Z0vH+MaXicni1AOpNAakqp4Z0LQYLjl8PITzc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <663647E4-C5BC-41CC-A902-463A1394B60C@gmail.com> References: <663647E4-C5BC-41CC-A902-463A1394B60C@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 22:49:54 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EDP prices going up From: james fowler To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd25deac5747c04a95491a0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111138 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 02:49:55 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd25deac5747c04a95491a0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I trust that you will finish it. - jim On Saturday, July 30, 2011, Matthias Grob wrote: > its amazing how in the past month, the EDP prices have been rising above its original street price > the latest http://cgi.ebay.ch/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190560044849 > reached US$ 875 although its the 5. sold in July, being that the others had not much lower prices, even older machines. > as usual, in Europe, prices have been even higher > I find this especially amazing because for those who look for the thing, its probably not unknown that the successor Evoloop is in development... maybe they do not trust that we will finish it? :-) > --000e0cd25deac5747c04a95491a0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I trust that you will finish it.

- jim

On Saturday, July 30, = 2011, Matthias Grob <matilists@gm= ail.com> wrote:
> its amazing how=A0in the past month,=A0the E= DP prices have been rising above its original street price=A0
> the latest=A0http://cgi.ebay.ch/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&it= em=3D190560044849
> <http://cgi.ebay.ch/ws/eBayISAPI.dll= ?ViewItem&item=3D190560044849>reached US$ =A0875 although its th= e 5. sold in July, being that the others had not much lower prices, even ol= der machines.
> as usual, in Europe, prices have been even higher
> I find this = especially amazing because for those who look for the thing, its probably n= ot unknown that the successor Evoloop is in development... maybe they do no= t trust that we will finish it? :-)
> --000e0cd25deac5747c04a95491a0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 31 03:02:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A65B618345C; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 03:02:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Mark Hamburg Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-317-914205507 Subject: Re: EDP prices going up Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:02:50 -0700 In-Reply-To: <663647E4-C5BC-41CC-A902-463A1394B60C@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <663647E4-C5BC-41CC-A902-463A1394B60C@gmail.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <41W9fD.A.udD.dXMNOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111139 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 03:02:53 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-317-914205507 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jul 30, 2011, at 7:42 PM, Matthias Grob wrote: > its amazing how in the past month, the EDP prices have been rising = above its original street price=20 > the latest = http://cgi.ebay.ch/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D190560044849 > reached US$ 875 although its the 5. sold in July, being that the = others had not much lower prices, even older machines. > as usual, in Europe, prices have been even higher >=20 > I find this especially amazing because for those who look for the = thing, its probably not unknown that the successor Evoloop is in = development... maybe they do not trust that we will finish it? :-) I'll sell an EDP (with Loop IV) including footswitch for $800 + = shipping. (US only) [ I hadn't actually researched prices, but this sparked me to think... ] Mark --Apple-Mail-317-914205507 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
its amazing how in the = past month, the EDP prices have been rising above its original = street price 
reached US$  875 although its the 5. sold in July, being = that the others had not much lower prices, even older = machines.
as usual, in Europe, prices have been even = higher

I find this especially amazing because = for those who look for the thing, its probably not unknown that the = successor Evoloop is in development... maybe they do not trust that we = will finish it? :-)

I'll sell an = EDP (with Loop IV) including footswitch for $800 + shipping. (US = only)

[ I hadn't actually researched prices, = but this sparked me to think... = ]

Mark

= --Apple-Mail-317-914205507-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 31 03:12:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78E6818345B; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 03:12:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=G6Q69DB3AUoJKS2BpLRaz8MQ2NORN7h5HRzrJMPOhRw= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=KD67oRxVopcfRK0UmPnanQ==:17 a=AcPMlVPnAAAA:8 a=2K6CUP_1BsEeYhvpmXgA:9 a=vGJY1Yc7lzZ6YOVV53wA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=KD67oRxVopcfRK0UmPnanQ==:117 Message-Id: <3C8CBC72-3BF4-43E9-9EA4-C6FECC132928@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <663647E4-C5BC-41CC-A902-463A1394B60C@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: EDP prices going up Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:12:14 -0700 References: <663647E4-C5BC-41CC-A902-463A1394B60C@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111140 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 03:12:16 +0000 (UTC) Matti, As you know, I am counting on you finishing it. Best, Ted On Jul 30, 2011, at 7:42 PM, Matthias Grob wrote: > its amazing how in the past month, the EDP prices have been rising > above its original street price > the latest http://cgi.ebay.ch/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190560044849 > reached US$ 875 although its the 5. sold in July, being that the > others had not much lower prices, even older machines. > as usual, in Europe, prices have been even higher > > I find this especially amazing because for those who look for the > thing, its probably not unknown that the successor Evoloop is in > development... maybe they do not trust that we will finish it? :-) > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 31 03:35:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 01312183460; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 03:35:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=qfZ3g661K+u3x3cfhQyqi/HDuY8gPzlOb9voIWfgf2Y=; b=vgtIj/+HspfwJpwHqhTmaQSFIOUFF6gN5j8WKCCtZKgSMDfHkRwBaQT7y1ILKCgzYG 2xpEE48KdizriUuW5lPFgtTKjnIfhO8qWaXkoAG1zMLIgxvg2naAkTC6y5en5CliGkDM OiJuGABwSpsxZYLBnnoPX8k3O/s1zLYopAL+g= From: Phil Clevenger Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-916163799 Subject: Re: EDP prices going up Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:35:29 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <663647E4-C5BC-41CC-A902-463A1394B60C@gmail.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111141 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 03:35:36 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-916163799 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii There's a time & place for hardware, and a time & place for software :) EDP hardware holds its value IMO because it's one of the most reliable, = well-executed pieces of gear ever. Super solid :) Phil :) On Jul 30, 2011, at 8:02 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > On Jul 30, 2011, at 7:42 PM, Matthias Grob wrote: >=20 >> its amazing how in the past month, the EDP prices have been rising = above its original street price=20 >> the latest = http://cgi.ebay.ch/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D190560044849 >> reached US$ 875 although its the 5. sold in July, being that the = others had not much lower prices, even older machines. >> as usual, in Europe, prices have been even higher >>=20 >> I find this especially amazing because for those who look for the = thing, its probably not unknown that the successor Evoloop is in = development... maybe they do not trust that we will finish it? :-) >=20 > I'll sell an EDP (with Loop IV) including footswitch for $800 + = shipping. (US only) >=20 > [ I hadn't actually researched prices, but this sparked me to think... = ] >=20 > Mark >=20 --Apple-Mail-1-916163799 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
On Jul 30, 2011, at = 7:42 PM, Matthias Grob wrote:

its amazing how in the = past month, the EDP prices have been rising above its original = street price 
reached US$  875 although its the 5. sold in July, being = that the others had not much lower prices, even older = machines.
as usual, in Europe, prices have been even = higher

I find this especially amazing because = for those who look for the thing, its probably not unknown that the = successor Evoloop is in development... maybe they do not trust that we = will finish it? :-)

I'll sell an = EDP (with Loop IV) including footswitch for $800 + shipping. (US = only)

[ I hadn't actually researched prices, = but this sparked me to think... = ]

Mark


= --Apple-Mail-1-916163799-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 31 03:43:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5ABCA183465; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 03:43:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=vd5I9da9hstrykgewYXZ5nOO+tLNEBAPUFBnXZ8Ut3E=; b=nHKXZ2bgC1/lzlnrW44pNvuT7PrNJfRLiad0WEeIFkADK6fhGU5IK8c0n/yv+2jd9h /Zoi52qrLIr+vQNCk/b8HbN9bw9aX1aRCoGKqZBV9Wv7EwUdEZtTW5ZLOYlotP12BUnD eIFuSbl7k+esTs7TyjUH8IPdTr8cXo9Vsjnvs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <663647E4-C5BC-41CC-A902-463A1394B60C@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 22:43:28 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EDP prices going up From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747bf6259ad2204a95551a6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111142 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 03:43:30 +0000 (UTC) --00151747bf6259ad2204a95551a6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 More info on evoloop, I.e. how many lopps? Bought my first edp4 for $400 about five years ago. Bought another edp4 for $600 a few months ago. I'm stockpilin them! On Jul 30, 2011 10:35 PM, "Phil Clevenger" wrote: --00151747bf6259ad2204a95551a6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

More info on evoloop, I.e. how many lopps? Bought my first edp4 for $400 about five years ago. Bought another edp4 for $600 a few months ago. I'm stockpilin them!

On Jul 30, 2011 10:35 PM, "Phil Clevenger" <phil.clevenger@gmail.com> wrote:
--00151747bf6259ad2204a95551a6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 31 11:40:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9506F183464; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 11:40:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E353F1A.3050602@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 04:40:10 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Advice Sought: Installing Win Xp on a Macbook Pro using Boot Camp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3JYRgC.A.krH.f8TNOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111143 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 11:40:15 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I just got a secondary internal hard drive (500g) for my Mac Book Pro *Model Name: MacBook Pro Model Identifier: MacBookPro3,1 Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor Speed: 2.6 GHz Number Of Processors: 1 Total Number Of Cores: 2 L2 Cache: 4 MB Memory: 2 GB Bus Speed: 800 MHz Boot ROM Version: MBP31.0070.B07* What I would love to do is to install Win XP Pro Service Pack 2 onto this harddrive using Boot Camp along with OS X on a separate and, hopefully, very small partition. The goal is to have as large a partition possible for Win XP and as small a partition as possible for OSX. I've discovered that swapping out harddrives is very simple and takes very little time, so I have a 320gb HD running OSX on one harddrive as a back up. Does anyone have any advice for me in terms of what the smallest partition I can get away with for a very, very stripped down version of OSX (mostly for e-mail and simple browsing)? I'm very nervous about doing this, but I think it will be the perfect solution for me (and save me hundreds of dollars that I just don't have now by not having to go out and buy a Win XP exclusive laptop). Just so you know, my mind's made up about wanting to use WIN XP (mostly because of the presence of FL Studio Pro, Vegas Video, Sony Sound Forge and Sony Acid) so please don't try to dissuade me from my course for all the typical Mac-centric reasons that people tend to have. I KNOW it's virus free and runs really simply and elegantly compared to WIN XP. I still want to do this in this fashion. I just need to figure out how to do this if anyone has any experience with it. Thanks so much for all of your advice in advance. I really appreciate it. yours, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 31 11:58:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0648F183464; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 11:58:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=RDSTcv+W2m04eTo9uqpoVHQZOdTqWwEF08JAV1eryjPnxYQZeMrSqBjFUyFu/68E; h=Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; References: <4E353F1A.3050602@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4E353F1A.3050602@cruzio.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 8L1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <65BEF10E-F1E2-48A0-B888-AD82C31A7967@earthlink.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPod Mail (8L1) From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Advice Sought: Installing Win Xp on a Macbook Pro using Boot Camp Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 07:59:45 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec795ae012121c8ae6a6072ba6fcf2adce9b350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 64.131.171.184 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111144 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 11:58:47 +0000 (UTC) Hi Rick, OSX can be set up on a very small partition indeed.=20 I've got a dual boot setup on my MacBook, the entire internal drive is only 8= 0GB.=20 OSX has a very small footprint, Apple recommend a minimum of just 7GB..! With a 500GB drive you could safely partition 493GB to XP, but I'd recommend= giving OSX something more generous, for the eventuality that you find somet= hing useful on OSX. -Chuck Sent from my iPad Nano On Jul 31, 2011, at 7:40 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > Hi folks, >=20 > I just got a secondary internal hard drive (500g) for my > Mac Book Pro >=20 > *Model Name: MacBook Pro > Model Identifier: MacBookPro3,1 > Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo > Processor Speed: 2.6 GHz > Number Of Processors: 1 > Total Number Of Cores: 2 > L2 Cache: 4 MB > Memory: 2 GB > Bus Speed: 800 MHz > Boot ROM Version: MBP31.0070.B07* >=20 > What I would love to do is to install Win XP Pro Service Pack 2 onto this h= arddrive using Boot Camp > along with OS X on a separate and, hopefully, very small partition. >=20 > The goal is to have as large a partition possible for Win XP and as small a= partition as possible for OSX. >=20 > I've discovered that swapping out harddrives is very simple and takes very= little time, so I have a 320gb HD > running OSX on one harddrive as a back up. >=20 > Does anyone have any advice for me in terms of what the smallest partition= I can get away with for a > very, very stripped down version of OSX (mostly for e-mail and simple brow= sing)? >=20 > I'm very nervous about doing this, but I think it will be the perfect sol= ution for me (and save me hundreds of dollars that > I just don't have now by not having to go out and buy a Win XP exclusive l= aptop). >=20 > Just so you know, my mind's made up about wanting to use WIN XP (mostly be= cause of the presence of FL Studio Pro, Vegas Video, Sony Sound Forge and > Sony Acid) so please don't try to dissuade me from my course for all the t= ypical Mac-centric reasons that people tend to have. > I KNOW it's virus free and runs really simply and elegantly compared to WI= N XP. I still want to do this in this fashion. >=20 > I just need to figure out how to do this if anyone has any experience with= it. >=20 > Thanks so much for all of your advice in advance. I really appreciate it.= >=20 > yours, Rick Walker >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 31 14:40:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21757183462; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 14:40:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1097 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 14:40:57 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <3970C142-7325-43C1-9E05-2C307295AD45@ubergadget.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Revfever Subject: Semi OT: Musicians helping musicians (Joplin,MO) Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 07:22:32 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111145 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 14:40:57 +0000 (UTC) Very moving story. (except for the part about some heartless sleaze bags who took advantage of the tragedy and looted a bunch of gear.) I also wonder how many looping devices were maybe lost? Regardless, this story brightened the start of my day. Hope it does the same for others on LD. Enjoy... Cheers-Rev. Fever Portland,OR From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 31 16:09:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4DB4183462; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 16:09:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E357E45.8060306@soundscapes.us> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 12:09:41 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Top 20 Report for July, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111146 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 16:09:50 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/top20-07jul.html WDIY 88.1 FM "Galactic Travels" Top 20 for July, 2011. Shows #744 to #747; 7-July-2011 to 28-July-2011 Reported in non-ranked, alphanumeric order. The Special Focus for July was Jürgen Haible. http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#jul ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL ======================================================================== Aria Rostami - Form - FatCat Jürgen Haible - Dark November - none Jürgen Haible - Holiday In Purgatory - none Jürgen Haible - Of Eagles and Prophets - none Jürgen Haible - The Secret Life of Trees - none M. Peck - Beneath Forever - Earth Mantra Mario Scholwalder and Frank Rothe - Filter-Kaffee 101 - SynGate Memory Geist - Benthos - DiN DDL Mystified - Bone Drones 3 - Mystified Music Paragate - Stillness in the Mirror - Auraltone Radio Massacre International - City 21 - Northern Echo Ray Carl Daye - Echoes from the Aether - none Saul Stokes - Sleek Nucleus - Stokesmusic Sensitive Chaos - Seeker After Patterns - Subsequent Steve Roach and Eric Wøllo - The Road Eternal - Projekt Steve Rose - The Diminishingg Day - none Surreal Realm - Ominous Ambience - none Takahashi Suzuki - Resonance - none Various Artists - A Little More Night Music - AD Music signalsundertests - mecca - none Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 31 18:05:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F373518345D; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 18:05:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1841 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 18:05:44 UTC Message-Id: <06132EB3-D4ED-4049-AF80-C3C1A47951E4@sonic.net> From: astav To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: FS: Looperlative LP1 Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 10:35:01 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111147 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 18:05:44 +0000 (UTC) Mint condition LP1 for sale. Includes original box, manual, and packaging. $900 shipped and paypalled. Local pick up available - SF Bay Area. Thanks! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 31 23:23:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A15E4183462; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 23:23:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E35E3FC.8020300@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 16:23:40 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Advice Sought: Installing Win XP on a Macbook Pro using Boot Camp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6WDC3D.A.hqG.AQeNOB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/111148 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 23:23:44 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I just got a secondary internal hard drive (500g) for my Mac Book Pro *Model Name: MacBook Pro Model Identifier: MacBookPro3,1 Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor Speed: 2.6 GHz Number Of Processors: 1 Total Number Of Cores: 2 L2 Cache: 4 MB Memory: 2 GB Bus Speed: 800 MHz Boot ROM Version: MBP31.0070.B07* What I would love to do is to install Win XP Pro Service Pack 2 onto this harddrive using Boot Camp along with OS X on a separate and, hopefully, very small partition. The goal is to have as large a partition possible for Win XP and as small a partition as possible for OSX. I've discovered that swapping out harddrives is very simple and takes very little time, so I have a 320gb HD running OSX on one harddrive as a back up. Does anyone have any advice for me in terms of what the smallest partition I can get away with for a very, very stripped down version of OSX (mostly for e-mail and simple browsing)? I'm very nervous about doing this, but I think it will be the perfect solution for me (and save me hundreds of dollars that I just don't have now by not having to go out and buy a Win XP exclusive laptop). Just so you know, my mind's made up about wanting to use WIN XP (mostly because of the presence of FL Studio Pro, Vegas Video, Sony Sound Forge and Sony Acid) so please don't try to dissuade me from my course for all the typical Mac-centric reasons that people tend to have. I KNOW it's virus free and runs really simply and elegantly compared to WIN XP. I still want to do this in this fashion. I just need to figure out how to do this if anyone has any experience with it. Thanks so much for all of your advice in advance. I really appreciate it. yours, Rick Walker