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hi loopers

wading through about 1000 unread LD emails yesterday and listening to so ma=
ny of your tracks made me get off my arse and upload some of mine - 6 free =
tracks (with loops!) that can be found here:=20

http://natskyplaysdrums.bandcamp.com/album/mellow-kitty

=3D) nat

--------------------=20
Nat Grant - M.Mus (Perf)
(percussion)=20
http://www.myspace.com/natskyplaysdrums
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http://www.soundcloud.com/natskyplaysdrums
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hi loopers<br><br>wading through about 1000 unread LD emails yesterday and =
listening to so many of your tracks made me get off my arse and upload some=
 of mine - 6 free tracks (with loops!) that can be found here: <br><br>http=
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http://www.myspace.com/natskyplaysdrums<br>http://www.youtube.com/natskypla=
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I now use Ableton Live build in loopers together with a Gordius =
controller instead of my 2/3 EchoPlexes. I wanted stereo and more =
control over the different loops. I did have to pay a price though when =
switching to software... latency....

Cheers,

Reyn

www.reyn.net

On Apr 30, 2011, at 6:31 AM, james fowler wrote:

> I have no experience of software looping tools so wondered if anyone =
could give some advice on what i might be able to use.
>=20
> - sure.  along with what per said, i'd also recommend =
edpx/echoloop...whenever it finally comes out.  great edp-style looper.  =
i prefer it over mobius.  but between mobius and echoloop you should be =
able to tackle pretty much anything
>=20
> but also to occasionally use a pre-recorded loop as a start point =
(possibly not for sync as it might be a drone).
>=20
> - dunno if echoloop allows you to load audio but there are so many way =
to trigger pre-recorded stuff that it's kind of a non-issue.
>=20
> Also any suggestions of a good floor controller
>=20
> - i like my rocktron midimate.  i own two of them.  flexible, small, =
reliable, easy to program...and cheap.
>=20
> - jim

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Sounds really, really nice. Listening to it now on a Sunday morning... =
Beautiful colors...

Cheers,

Reyn.

www.reyn.net

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> Dearest Loop-Brethren,=20
>=20
> I recently released a new album of loops called "NOops." I've made it =
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> http://danielharris.bandcamp.com/album/noops
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<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Sounds really, really nice. Listening to it now on a Sunday morning... Beautiful colors...</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>Reyn.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.reyn.net">www.reyn.net</a></div><br><div><div>On Apr 29, 2011, at 10:31 PM, daniel wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Dearest Loop-Brethren, <br><br>I recently released a new album of loops called "NOops." I've made it free to download for y'all so please do and I hope you enjoy! <br><br><a href="http://danielharris.bandcamp.com/album/noops">http://danielharris.bandcamp.com/album/noops</a><br>
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Lovely "metal objects treatment"! The Trails trilogy is nice.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 4:13 AM, nat grant <natskyplaysdrums@hotmail.com> wrote:
> wading through about 1000 unread LD emails yesterday and listening to so
> many of your tracks made me get off my arse and upload some of mine - 6 free
> tracks (with loops!) that can be found here:
>
> http://natskyplaysdrums.bandcamp.com/album/mellow-kitty
>
> =) nat

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Hi Per,
Thank for speaking about Logelloop!
>=20
> I also like the French Logelloop. An eight track looper built for Mac
> in Max that can host VST and AU plugins.

Au plugs will supported in Logelloop 2.
For now, in Logelloop 1 it is actually not supported yet.

> The great point for me is
> that all its mixer settings can be saved as "presets" (or rather "snap
> shots") that you can jump between. In this you can set the value for
> how slow the morphing of all mixer parameter's values shall happen as
> you change preset, and this includes loop speed/pitch!!!! I have not
> been able to get Logelloop running stable on any of my Macs but as
> soon as this happens I will bring it out for concerts.

This is quite strange Per.
You never said to me that Logelloop is not stable on your MACs.
And avery Logelloop user seems to be really happy with the soft =
stability.

If there is a problem I will be very happy to fix it as soon as =
possible.
Philippe Ollivier.

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http://logelloop.logellou.com/

>=20
> Greetings from Sweden
>=20
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> www.looproom.com internet music hub
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 6:27 PM, ::Yellow6:: <jon@yellow6.com> wrote:
>> hi
>> i've been using hardware loopers for many years and have been through =
most
>> of the cheaper end of the range (JamMan, RC-20, RC-2, DL-4) and =
finally
>> settled on an RC-50 and Lo-fi loop junky.  but, following my move to =
using
>> Logic on Mac for recording last year, i now have access to Main Stage =
and
>> wondered about making a more portable live setup using that.
>> I have no experience of software looping tools so wondered if anyone =
could
>> give some advice on what i might be able to use.
>> Basic requirement is to be able to record one loop (hands free as i'm =
a
>> guitarist) and layer on top in sync, switching in and out as needed, =
but
>> also to occasionally use a pre-recorded loop as a start point =
(possibly not
>> for sync as it might be a drone).
>> Also any suggestions of a good floor controller
>> thanks in advance for any suggestions
>> cheers
>> jon.
>>=20
>>       - y e l l o w 6 -
>>       www.yellow6.com
>>=20
>=20


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Im inspired to share some of my tracks too!  www.soundcloud.com/moglimusic

hurray for music

-Eric Mogli
On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 3:29 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> Lovely "metal objects treatment"! The Trails trilogy is nice.
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> www.looproom.com internet music hub
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 4:13 AM, nat grant <natskyplaysdrums@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > wading through about 1000 unread LD emails yesterday and listening to so
> > many of your tracks made me get off my arse and upload some of mine - 6
> free
> > tracks (with loops!) that can be found here:
> >
> > http://natskyplaysdrums.bandcamp.com/album/mellow-kitty
> >
> > =) nat
>
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Im inspired to share some of my tracks too!=A0 <a href=3D"http://www.soundc=
loud.com/moglimusic">www.soundcloud.com/moglimusic</a><br><br>hurray for mu=
sic<br><br>-Eric Mogli<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, May 1, 2011 at=
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l.com">perboysen@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Lovely &quot;meta=
l objects treatment&quot;! The Trails trilogy is nice.<br>
<br>
Greetings from Sweden<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Per Boysen<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.boysen.se" target=3D"_blank">www.boysen.se</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com" target=3D"_blank">www.perboysen.com</a=
><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.looproom.com" target=3D"_blank">www.looproom.com</a> =
internet music hub<br>
</font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 4:13 AM, nat grant &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:natskyplays=
drums@hotmail.com">natskyplaysdrums@hotmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; wading through about 1000 unread LD emails yesterday and listening to =
so<br>
&gt; many of your tracks made me get off my arse and upload some of mine - =
6 free<br>
&gt; tracks (with loops!) that can be found here:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://natskyplaysdrums.bandcamp.com/album/mellow-kitty" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">http://natskyplaysdrums.bandcamp.com/album/mellow-kitty</a>=
<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =3D) nat<br>
<br>
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Gonna give it a go too... AND, it's french!

On May 1, 2011, at 8:53 PM, Philippe OLLIVIER wrote:

> Hi Per,
> Thank for speaking about Logelloop!
>>=20
>> I also like the French Logelloop. An eight track looper built for Mac
>> in Max that can host VST and AU plugins.
>=20
> Au plugs will supported in Logelloop 2.
> For now, in Logelloop 1 it is actually not supported yet.
>=20
>> The great point for me is
>> that all its mixer settings can be saved as "presets" (or rather =
"snap
>> shots") that you can jump between. In this you can set the value for
>> how slow the morphing of all mixer parameter's values shall happen as
>> you change preset, and this includes loop speed/pitch!!!! I have not
>> been able to get Logelloop running stable on any of my Macs but as
>> soon as this happens I will bring it out for concerts.
>=20
> This is quite strange Per.
> You never said to me that Logelloop is not stable on your MACs.
> And avery Logelloop user seems to be really happy with the soft =
stability.
>=20
> If there is a problem I will be very happy to fix it as soon as =
possible.
> Philippe Ollivier.
>=20
> -------------------------------------
> www.philippeollivier.com
> http://logelloop.logellou.com/
>=20
>>=20
>> Greetings from Sweden
>>=20
>> Per Boysen
>> www.boysen.se
>> www.perboysen.com
>> www.looproom.com internet music hub
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 6:27 PM, ::Yellow6:: <jon@yellow6.com> wrote:
>>> hi
>>> i've been using hardware loopers for many years and have been =
through most
>>> of the cheaper end of the range (JamMan, RC-20, RC-2, DL-4) and =
finally
>>> settled on an RC-50 and Lo-fi loop junky.  but, following my move to =
using
>>> Logic on Mac for recording last year, i now have access to Main =
Stage and
>>> wondered about making a more portable live setup using that.
>>> I have no experience of software looping tools so wondered if anyone =
could
>>> give some advice on what i might be able to use.
>>> Basic requirement is to be able to record one loop (hands free as =
i'm a
>>> guitarist) and layer on top in sync, switching in and out as needed, =
but
>>> also to occasionally use a pre-recorded loop as a start point =
(possibly not
>>> for sync as it might be a drone).
>>> Also any suggestions of a good floor controller
>>> thanks in advance for any suggestions
>>> cheers
>>> jon.
>>>=20
>>>      - y e l l o w 6 -
>>>      www.yellow6.com
>>>=20
>>=20
>=20
>=20

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Hello everyone,

I was a bit unclear in my post. Probably my stability issue with
Logeloop 1 comes from "the human factor" - he, he... as you know,
ninety nine percent of all computer stability issues really are
nothing but *a user issues* ;-))  I have had so much work for a period
that I was forced to cut out which tasks to not take care of in order
to deliver in the food-and-rent-paying department, plus stuff I have
promised others to fix. And I have not been able to work my way down
the list to start looking deeply into that instability issue. Sad
facts of life. On my previous laptop I did some "folder hacking" to
make AU plugins show up in Logeloop 1 and even though I had good
guidance by email from Philippe I might have messed something up. I
won't be needing that hack with Logeloop 2, since it will natively
support AU plugins, so I think my Logeloop (2) will be as stable as
every one else had it with version 1.

I also like the built-in Logeloop plugin Granulaterre a lot! It is
like a built-in step sequencer where you can snatch a sample of what
you are playing and instantly get the slice start bouncing around
according to the spinning sequencer pattern. Sequencer patterns can be
saved as part of the global looper preset (that includes mixer
settings, loop speed/pitch... see my earlier post) which is very
"playable" in my opinion. I'd say that Logeloops preset system is
"playable" in the same way as Mobius scripting option: it allows you
to design exactly what you need and nothing more. When there are too
many options at hand your playing is slowed down as you have to stop
and think about what to do next instead of just playing. I like to
keep my tools minimal but sharp.

Forgot to respond to Jons query about foot controllers. I've used up
three Behringer FCB 1010 pedals, each one worked fine three years for
me, and have now moved on to the more expensive Gordius Little Giant
2. This one is sturdy and built by parts that can easily be replaced
so I think it will be less expensive in the long run. The LG2 is quite
compact and portable as well, since it allows up to four expression
pedals as external add-ons (the cheap analog Roland EVP5).

All the best

Per



On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 8:53 PM, Philippe OLLIVIER
<philippe.ollivier@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Per,
> Thank for speaking about Logelloop!
>>
>> I also like the French Logelloop. An eight track looper built for Mac
>> in Max that can host VST and AU plugins.
>
> Au plugs will supported in Logelloop 2.
> For now, in Logelloop 1 it is actually not supported yet.
>
>> The great point for me is
>> that all its mixer settings can be saved as "presets" (or rather "snap
>> shots") that you can jump between. In this you can set the value for
>> how slow the morphing of all mixer parameter's values shall happen as
>> you change preset, and this includes loop speed/pitch!!!! I have not
>> been able to get Logelloop running stable on any of my Macs but as
>> soon as this happens I will bring it out for concerts.
>
> This is quite strange Per.
> You never said to me that Logelloop is not stable on your MACs.
> And avery Logelloop user seems to be really happy with the soft stability=
.
>
> If there is a problem I will be very happy to fix it as soon as possible.
> Philippe Ollivier.
>
> -------------------------------------
> www.philippeollivier.com
> http://logelloop.logellou.com/
>
>>
>> Greetings from Sweden
>>
>> Per Boysen
>> www.boysen.se
>> www.perboysen.com
>> www.looproom.com internet music hub
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 6:27 PM, ::Yellow6:: <jon@yellow6.com> wrote:
>>> hi
>>> i've been using hardware loopers for many years and have been through m=
ost
>>> of the cheaper end of the range (JamMan, RC-20, RC-2, DL-4) and finally
>>> settled on an RC-50 and Lo-fi loop junky. =C2=A0but, following my move =
to using
>>> Logic on Mac for recording last year, i now have access to Main Stage a=
nd
>>> wondered about making a more portable live setup using that.
>>> I have no experience of software looping tools so wondered if anyone co=
uld
>>> give some advice on what i might be able to use.
>>> Basic requirement is to be able to record one loop (hands free as i'm a
>>> guitarist) and layer on top in sync, switching in and out as needed, bu=
t
>>> also to occasionally use a pre-recorded loop as a start point (possibly=
 not
>>> for sync as it might be a drone).
>>> Also any suggestions of a good floor controller
>>> thanks in advance for any suggestions
>>> cheers
>>> jon.
>>>
>>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - y e l l o w 6 -
>>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 www.yellow6.com
>>>
>>
>
>
>

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More live loops in a band context - thoughts much appreciated guys:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA9en_aftVE

Multiple DL4 loops....

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<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">More live loops in a band context - thoughts much appreciated guys:<div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA9en_aftVE">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA9en_aftVE</a></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA9en_aftVE"></a>Multiple DL4 loops....</div><div><br><div>
Matt Stevens<br><a href="http://www.mattstevensguitar.com">http://www.mattstevensguitar.com</a><br>http://www.spencerparkmusic.com<br>mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com
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In the midst of doing some recordin' and loopin' I came up with a method to
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don't have the energy to go on. What's so great about this technique is that
it takes less than 30 secs to try this ground breaking new process.
I captured it on video to share with my loopin' brethren.
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In the midst of doing some recordin&#39; and loopin&#39; I came up with a m=
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I captured it on video to share with my loopin&#39;=A0brethren.=A0</div><di=
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<div>Twitter: gtodd876</div><br>
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Ha! Great Todd! Thanks I needed that :)

On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote:

> In the midst of doing some recordin' and loopin' I came up with a method to
> maximize your creative output for those moments when you feel like you just
> don't have the energy to go on. What's so great about this technique is that
> it takes less than 30 secs to try this ground breaking new process.
> I captured it on video to share with my loopin' brethren.
> http://bit.ly/ilsCBG
>
> --
> Todd Matthews
> toddbass.com
> Twitter: gtodd876
>
>

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Ha! Great Todd! Thanks I needed that :)<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">O=
n Sun, May 1, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Todd Matthews <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:gtmatthews@gmail.com">gtmatthews@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:=
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">In the midst of d=
oing some recordin&#39; and loopin&#39; I came up with a method to maximize=
 your creative output for those moments when you feel like you just don&#39=
;t have the energy to go on. What&#39;s so great about this technique is th=
at it takes less than 30 secs to try this ground breaking new process.<div>


I captured it on video to share with my loopin&#39;=A0brethren.=A0</div><di=
v><a href=3D"http://bit.ly/ilsCBG" target=3D"_blank">http://bit.ly/ilsCBG</=
a>=A0</div><div><br></div><font color=3D"#888888"><div>-- <br>Todd Matthews=
<div><a href=3D"http://toddbass.com" target=3D"_blank">toddbass.com</a></di=
v>


<div>Twitter: gtodd876</div><br>
</div>
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you just wasted over a minute of my time...no thanks

On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ha! Great Todd! Thanks I needed that :)
>
>
> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> In the midst of doing some recordin' and loopin' I came up with a method
>> to maximize your creative output for those moments when you feel like you
>> just don't have the energy to go on. What's so great about this technique is
>> that it takes less than 30 secs to try this ground breaking new process.
>> I captured it on video to share with my loopin' brethren.
>> http://bit.ly/ilsCBG
>>
>> --
>> Todd Matthews
>> toddbass.com
>> Twitter: gtodd876
>>
>>
>


-- 
*Tim Clement*
phone:   416.536.8172
mobile:  647.832.8172
fax:        416.519.1816

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you just wasted over a minute of my time...no thanks<br><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote">On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Jeff Duke <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:jeffloops@gmail.com">jeffloops@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Ha! Great Todd! Thanks I needed that :)<div=
><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Ma=
y 1, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Todd Matthews <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:gtmatthews@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gtmatthews@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span=
> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">In the midst of doing s=
ome recordin&#39; and loopin&#39; I came up with a method to maximize your =
creative output for those moments when you feel like you just don&#39;t hav=
e the energy to go on. What&#39;s so great about this technique is that it =
takes less than 30 secs to try this ground breaking new process.<div>



I captured it on video to share with my loopin&#39;=A0brethren.=A0</div><di=
v><a href=3D"http://bit.ly/ilsCBG" target=3D"_blank">http://bit.ly/ilsCBG</=
a>=A0</div><div><br></div><font color=3D"#888888"><div>-- <br>Todd Matthews=
<div><a href=3D"http://toddbass.com" target=3D"_blank">toddbass.com</a></di=
v>



<div>Twitter: gtodd876</div><br>
</div>
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<span style=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)">phone:=A0=A0 416.536.8172</span><br sty=
le=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)">mobile:=A0 6=
47.832.8172</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)"></font></font></span></=
font><font style=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)" color=3D"#888888"><font size=3D"6"=
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t><br>
<span style=3D"color:rgb(51, 153, 153)"></span><br>

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Gosh tim relax. No one held your hand to the mouse.  This is an
encouraging and experimental environment not a guaranteed oasis.

Jim

On 5/1/11, Tim Clement <tmaclement@gmail.com> wrote:
> you just wasted over a minute of my time...no thanks
>
> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ha! Great Todd! Thanks I needed that :)
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com>wrot=
e:
>>
>>> In the midst of doing some recordin' and loopin' I came up with a metho=
d
>>> to maximize your creative output for those moments when you feel like y=
ou
>>> just don't have the energy to go on. What's so great about this techniq=
ue
>>> is
>>> that it takes less than 30 secs to try this ground breaking new process=
.
>>> I captured it on video to share with my loopin' brethren.
>>> http://bit.ly/ilsCBG
>>>
>>> --
>>> Todd Matthews
>>> toddbass.com
>>> Twitter: gtodd876
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> *Tim Clement*
> phone:   416.536.8172
> mobile:  647.832.8172
> fax:        416.519.1816
>

--=20
Sent from my mobile device

*From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin =
&
Peter Th=F6rn.  Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.
jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com

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So sad :( I had no earthly idea that that a 21 sec. silly vid would =
instill anger in anybody. My apologies. If anybody else is outraged by =
viewing this don't waste anymore of your time by replying. Just hit the =
delete button and also delete any further emails of mine that appear on =
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the future :) That way you can go out about your productive life reading =
posts on LD without my interruptions.=20
-Todd Matthews
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> you just wasted over a minute of my time...no thanks
>=20

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> you just wasted over a minute of my time...no thanks


I found it inspiring and actually am doing it right now in my control room chair with my mac book in my lap as I write my first and probably only response to an artless flame.

RAH!  Chair Riders Unite.
d
On May 1, 2011, at 4:22 PM, Tim Clement wrote:

> you just wasted over a minute of my time...no thanks
> 
> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ha! Great Todd! Thanks I needed that :)
> 
> 
> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote:
> In the midst of doing some recordin' and loopin' I came up with a method to maximize your creative output for those moments when you feel like you just don't have the energy to go on. What's so great about this technique is that it takes less than 30 secs to try this ground breaking new process.
> I captured it on video to share with my loopin' brethren. 
> http://bit.ly/ilsCBG 
> 
> -- 
> Todd Matthews
> toddbass.com
> Twitter: gtodd876
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Tim Clement
> phone:   416.536.8172
> mobile:  647.832.8172
> fax:        416.519.1816
> 


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<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite">you just wasted over a minute of my time...no thanks<br></blockquote></div><div><br></div>I found it inspiring and actually am doing it right now in my control room chair with my mac book in my lap as I write my first and probably only response to an artless flame.<div><br></div><div>RAH! &nbsp;Chair Riders Unite.<br><div><div><div><div><div><div>d<br><div><div>On May 1, 2011, at 4:22 PM, Tim Clement wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">you just wasted over a minute of my time...no thanks<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Jeff Duke <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:jeffloops@gmail.com">jeffloops@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Ha! Great Todd! Thanks I needed that :)<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Todd Matthews <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:gtmatthews@gmail.com" target="_blank">gtmatthews@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">In the midst of doing some recordin' and loopin' I came up with a method to maximize your creative output for those moments when you feel like you just don't have the energy to go on. What's so great about this technique is that it takes less than 30 secs to try this ground breaking new process.<div>



I captured it on video to share with my loopin'&nbsp;brethren.&nbsp;</div><div><a href="http://bit.ly/ilsCBG" target="_blank">http://bit.ly/ilsCBG</a>&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><font color="#888888"><div>-- <br>Todd Matthews<div><a href="http://toddbass.com/" target="_blank">toddbass.com</a></div>



<div>Twitter: gtodd876</div><br>
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<span style="color:rgb(0, 51, 0)">phone:&nbsp;&nbsp; 416.536.8172</span><br style="color:rgb(0, 51, 0)"><span style="color:rgb(0, 51, 0)">mobile:&nbsp; 647.832.8172</span><br style="color:rgb(0, 51, 0)"></font></font></span></font><font style="color:rgb(0, 51, 0)" color="#888888"><font size="6"><font size="2">fax:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 416.519.1816</font></font></font><br>
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Actually I had to modify your idea a bit for space reasons I just spin
around a bit! Whee!

On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 7:55 PM, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com> wrote:

>
> you just wasted over a minute of my time...no thanks
>
>
> I found it inspiring and actually am doing it right now in my control room
> chair with my mac book in my lap as I write my first and probably only
> response to an artless flame.
>
> RAH!  Chair Riders Unite.
> d
> On May 1, 2011, at 4:22 PM, Tim Clement wrote:
>
> you just wasted over a minute of my time...no thanks
>
> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ha! Great Todd! Thanks I needed that :)
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> In the midst of doing some recordin' and loopin' I came up with a method
>>> to maximize your creative output for those moments when you feel like you
>>> just don't have the energy to go on. What's so great about this technique is
>>> that it takes less than 30 secs to try this ground breaking new process.
>>> I captured it on video to share with my loopin' brethren.
>>> http://bit.ly/ilsCBG
>>>
>>> --
>>> Todd Matthews
>>> toddbass.com
>>> Twitter: gtodd876
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> *Tim Clement*
> phone:   416.536.8172
> mobile:  647.832.8172
> fax:        416.519.1816
>
>
>

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Actually I had to modify your idea a bit for space reasons I just spin arou=
nd a bit! Whee!<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 7:=
55 PM, Daniel Thomas <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:danielthomas4@=
mac.com">danielthomas4@mac.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div style=3D"wor=
d-wrap: break-word;"><div><br></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite">you just=
 wasted over a minute of my time...no thanks<br>
</blockquote></div><div><br></div>I found it inspiring and actually am doin=
g it right now in my control room chair with my mac book in my lap as I wri=
te my first and probably only response to an artless flame.<div><br></div>
<div>RAH! =A0Chair Riders Unite.<br><div><div><div><div><div><div>d<br><div=
><div>On May 1, 2011, at 4:22 PM, Tim Clement wrote:</div><br><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite">you just wasted over a minute of my time...no thanks<br><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote">
On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Jeff Duke <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:jeffloops@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jeffloops@gmail.com</a>&gt;</=
span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Ha! Great Todd! T=
hanks I needed that :)<div><div></div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e">
On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Todd Matthews <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:gtmatthews@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gtmatthews@gmail.com</a>=
&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">In the midst of d=
oing some recordin&#39; and loopin&#39; I came up with a method to maximize=
 your creative output for those moments when you feel like you just don&#39=
;t have the energy to go on. What&#39;s so great about this technique is th=
at it takes less than 30 secs to try this ground breaking new process.<div>




I captured it on video to share with my loopin&#39;=A0brethren.=A0</div><di=
v><a href=3D"http://bit.ly/ilsCBG" target=3D"_blank">http://bit.ly/ilsCBG</=
a>=A0</div><div><br></div><font color=3D"#888888"><div>-- <br>Todd Matthews=
<div><a href=3D"http://toddbass.com/" target=3D"_blank">toddbass.com</a></d=
iv>




<div>Twitter: gtodd876</div><br>
</div>
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ont size=3D"2"><font size=3D"2"><b>Tim Clement</b></font><br>

<span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 51, 0);">phone:=A0=A0 <a href=3D"tel:416.536.8=
172" value=3D"+14165368172" target=3D"_blank">416.536.8172</a></span><br st=
yle=3D"color: rgb(0, 51, 0);"><span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 51, 0);">mobile:=
=A0 <a href=3D"tel:647.832.8172" value=3D"+16478328172" target=3D"_blank">6=
47.832.8172</a></span><br style=3D"color: rgb(0, 51, 0);">
</font></font></span></font><font style=3D"color: rgb(0, 51, 0);" color=3D"=
#888888"><font size=3D"6"><font size=3D"2">fax:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 <a hre=
f=3D"tel:416.519.1816" value=3D"+14165191816" target=3D"_blank">416.519.181=
6</a></font></font></font><br>

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Todd in defense bravo and thx for trying to do something positive and
encouraging in this community and world and daniel thx for picking up
the torch.

On 5/1/11, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com> wrote:
>
>> you just wasted over a minute of my time...no thanks
>
>
> I found it inspiring and actually am doing it right now in my control roo=
m
> chair with my mac book in my lap as I write my first and probably only
> response to an artless flame.
>
> RAH!  Chair Riders Unite.
> d
> On May 1, 2011, at 4:22 PM, Tim Clement wrote:
>
>> you just wasted over a minute of my time...no thanks
>>
>> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ha! Great Todd! Thanks I needed that :)
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> In the midst of doing some recordin' and loopin' I came up with a method
>> to maximize your creative output for those moments when you feel like yo=
u
>> just don't have the energy to go on. What's so great about this techniqu=
e
>> is that it takes less than 30 secs to try this ground breaking new
>> process.
>> I captured it on video to share with my loopin' brethren.
>> http://bit.ly/ilsCBG
>>
>> --
>> Todd Matthews
>> toddbass.com
>> Twitter: gtodd876
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tim Clement
>> phone:   416.536.8172
>> mobile:  647.832.8172
>> fax:        416.519.1816
>>
>
>

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easy does it....stop taking yourselves so seriously, and really create some
Beauty

not angry, just out

On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote=
:

> Todd in defense bravo and thx for trying to do something positive and
> encouraging in this community and world and daniel thx for picking up
> the torch.
>
> On 5/1/11, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com> wrote:
> >
> >> you just wasted over a minute of my time...no thanks
> >
> >
> > I found it inspiring and actually am doing it right now in my control
> room
> > chair with my mac book in my lap as I write my first and probably only
> > response to an artless flame.
> >
> > RAH!  Chair Riders Unite.
> > d
> > On May 1, 2011, at 4:22 PM, Tim Clement wrote:
> >
> >> you just wasted over a minute of my time...no thanks
> >>
> >> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Ha! Great Todd! Thanks I needed that :)
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> In the midst of doing some recordin' and loopin' I came up with a meth=
od
> >> to maximize your creative output for those moments when you feel like
> you
> >> just don't have the energy to go on. What's so great about this
> technique
> >> is that it takes less than 30 secs to try this ground breaking new
> >> process.
> >> I captured it on video to share with my loopin' brethren.
> >> http://bit.ly/ilsCBG
> >>
> >> --
> >> Todd Matthews
> >> toddbass.com
> >> Twitter: gtodd876
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tim Clement
> >> phone:   416.536.8172
> >> mobile:  647.832.8172
> >> fax:        416.519.1816
> >>
> >
> >
>
> --
> Sent from my mobile device
>
> *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodi=
n
> &
> Peter Th=F6rn.  Proceeds
> from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.
> jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.
>
> woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com
>
>


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easy does it....stop taking yourselves so seriously, and really create some=
 Beauty<br><br>not angry, just out <br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Su=
n, May 1, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Jim Goodin <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com">jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:=
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Todd in defense bravo and thx for trying to=
 do something positive and<br>
encouraging in this community and world and daniel thx for picking up<br>
the torch.<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
On 5/1/11, Daniel Thomas &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:danielthomas4@mac.com">danie=
lthomas4@mac.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; you just wasted over a minute of my time...no thanks<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I found it inspiring and actually am doing it right now in my control =
room<br>
&gt; chair with my mac book in my lap as I write my first and probably only=
<br>
&gt; response to an artless flame.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; RAH! =A0Chair Riders Unite.<br>
&gt; d<br>
&gt; On May 1, 2011, at 4:22 PM, Tim Clement wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; you just wasted over a minute of my time...no thanks<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Jeff Duke &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:je=
ffloops@gmail.com">jeffloops@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; Ha! Great Todd! Thanks I needed that :)<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Todd Matthews &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:gtmatthews@gmail.com">gtmatthews@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; In the midst of doing some recordin&#39; and loopin&#39; I came up=
 with a method<br>
&gt;&gt; to maximize your creative output for those moments when you feel l=
ike you<br>
&gt;&gt; just don&#39;t have the energy to go on. What&#39;s so great about=
 this technique<br>
&gt;&gt; is that it takes less than 30 secs to try this ground breaking new=
<br>
&gt;&gt; process.<br>
&gt;&gt; I captured it on video to share with my loopin&#39; brethren.<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://bit.ly/ilsCBG" target=3D"_blank">http://bit.ly/i=
lsCBG</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; Todd Matthews<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://toddbass.com" target=3D"_blank">toddbass.com</a>=
<br>
&gt;&gt; Twitter: gtodd876<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; Tim Clement<br>
&gt;&gt; phone: =A0 <a href=3D"tel:416.536.8172" value=3D"+14165368172">416=
.536.8172</a><br>
&gt;&gt; mobile: =A0<a href=3D"tel:647.832.8172" value=3D"+16478328172">647=
.832.8172</a><br>
&gt;&gt; fax: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<a href=3D"tel:416.519.1816" value=3D"+1416519=
1816">416.519.1816</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div></div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">--<br>
Sent from my mobile device<br>
<br>
*From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin =
&amp;<br>
Peter Th=F6rn. =A0Proceeds<br>
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.<br>
<a href=3D"http://jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com" target=3D"_blank">jimgo=
odinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com</a>.<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com" target=3D"_blank">woodand=
wiremusic.wordpress.com</a><br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><font size=
=3D"6"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51, 153, 153)"></span></font><font size=3D"=
6"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51, 153, 153)"><font color=3D"#003300"><font si=
ze=3D"2"><font size=3D"2"><b>Tim Clement</b></font><br>
<span style=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)">phone:=A0=A0 416.536.8172</span><br sty=
le=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)">mobile:=A0 6=
47.832.8172</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)"></font></font></span></=
font><font style=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)" color=3D"#888888"><font size=3D"6"=
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<span style=3D"color:rgb(51, 153, 153)"></span><br>

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Wonderful Todd, I will try this tomorrow at work.

Perhaps I'll even add casters to my guitar stool.

:-)

Ted


On May 1, 2011, at 3:21 PM, Todd Matthews wrote:

> In the midst of doing some recordin' and loopin' I came up with a  
> method to maximize your creative output for those moments when you  
> feel like you just don't have the energy to go on. What's so great  
> about this technique is that it takes less than 30 secs to try this  
> ground breaking new process.
> I captured it on video to share with my loopin' brethren.
> http://bit.ly/ilsCBG
>
> -- 
> Todd Matthews
> toddbass.com
> Twitter: gtodd876
>

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Sometimes I'll ask somebody to trip me at a future time, preferably when =
I don't expect it.  The whole flight to the ground including the "life =
flashing before me" phenomenon triggers a panoply of creative eruptions.

t
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Tim Clement=20
  To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
  Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 5:51 PM
  Subject: Re: How to get those creative juices flowin' !


  easy does it....stop taking yourselves so seriously, and really create =
some Beauty

  not angry, just out=20


  On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> =
wrote:

    Todd in defense bravo and thx for trying to do something positive =
and
    encouraging in this community and world and daniel thx for picking =
up
    the torch.


    On 5/1/11, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com> wrote:
    >
    >> you just wasted over a minute of my time...no thanks
    >
    >
    > I found it inspiring and actually am doing it right now in my =
control room
    > chair with my mac book in my lap as I write my first and probably =
only
    > response to an artless flame.
    >
    > RAH!  Chair Riders Unite.
    > d
    > On May 1, 2011, at 4:22 PM, Tim Clement wrote:
    >
    >> you just wasted over a minute of my time...no thanks
    >>
    >> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com> =
wrote:
    >> Ha! Great Todd! Thanks I needed that :)
    >>
    >>
    >> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Todd Matthews =
<gtmatthews@gmail.com>
    >> wrote:
    >> In the midst of doing some recordin' and loopin' I came up with a =
method
    >> to maximize your creative output for those moments when you feel =
like you
    >> just don't have the energy to go on. What's so great about this =
technique
    >> is that it takes less than 30 secs to try this ground breaking =
new
    >> process.
    >> I captured it on video to share with my loopin' brethren.
    >> http://bit.ly/ilsCBG
    >>
    >> --
    >> Todd Matthews
    >> toddbass.com
    >> Twitter: gtodd876
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> --
    >> Tim Clement
    >> phone:   416.536.8172
    >> mobile:  647.832.8172
    >> fax:        416.519.1816
    >>
    >
    >


    --
    Sent from my mobile device

    *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim =
Goodin &
    Peter Th=F6rn.  Proceeds
    from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.
    jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

    woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com





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  phone:   416.536.8172
  mobile:  647.832.8172
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  =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: How to get those =
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>easy does it....stop taking yourselves so seriously, =
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  <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Jim Goodin =
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  =
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  <BLOCKQUOTE=20
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  class=3Dgmail_quote>Todd in defense bravo and thx for trying to do =
something=20
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thx for=20
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    <DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>
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just=20
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On Sun,=20
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    --<BR>&gt;&gt; Todd Matthews<BR>&gt;&gt; <A =
href=3D"http://toddbass.com"=20
    target=3D_blank>toddbass.com</A><BR>&gt;&gt; Twitter:=20
    =
gtodd876<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&=
gt;&gt;=20
    --<BR>&gt;&gt; Tim Clement<BR>&gt;&gt; phone: &nbsp; <A=20
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&nbsp; &nbsp;=20
    &nbsp;<A href=3D"tel:416.519.1816"=20
    =
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    <DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV class=3Dh5>--<BR>Sent from my mobile device<BR><BR>*From =
Brooklyn To=20
    Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin =
&amp;<BR>Peter=20
    Th=F6rn. &nbsp;Proceeds<BR>from the sale of this CD will benefit =
JDRF=20
    International.<BR><A =
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*Tim wrote:*
*you just wasted over a minute of my time...no thanks*

The video was only 21 seconds.  Can you account for the other
39+ seconds that were "wasted"?  I'm just curious how Todd is on the hook
for that additional time.

Todd: looks like a "brain break" to me.  Doing something physical for a bit=
.
 My fianc=E9e does this sort of thing with her first graders every day.  Go=
od
technique.  I'll have to make note of this! :)

Best,
Adam

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<i>Tim wrote:</i><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-coll=
apse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "><i>you j=
ust wasted over a minute of my time...no thanks</i></span></div><div><span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: collapse; font-family:=
 arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "><br>
</span></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"arial, sans-seri=
f"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: collapse;">Th=
e video was only 21 seconds. =A0Can you account for the other 39+=A0seconds=
=A0that were &quot;wasted&quot;? =A0I&#39;m just curious how Todd is on the=
 hook for that additional time.</span></font></div>
<div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><br><span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: collapse; ">Todd: look=
s like a &quot;brain break&quot; to me. =A0Doing something physical for a b=
it. =A0My=A0</span><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collaps=
e: collapse; ">fianc=E9e</span><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"bo=
rder-collapse: collapse; ">=A0does this sort of thing with her first grader=
s every day. =A0Good technique. =A0I&#39;ll have to make note of this! :)</=
span></font></div>
<div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><span clas=
s=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: collapse; "><br></span></f=
ont></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"arial, sans-serif">=
<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: collapse; ">Best=
,</span></font></div>
<div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><span clas=
s=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: collapse; ">Adam</span></f=
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fools

On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 9:31 PM, ^|>^m <will.it.go.round@gmail.com> wrote:

> *Tim wrote:*
> *you just wasted over a minute of my time...no thanks*
>
> The video was only 21 seconds.  Can you account for the other
> 39+ seconds that were "wasted"?  I'm just curious how Todd is on the hook
> for that additional time.
>
> Todd: looks like a "brain break" to me.  Doing something physical for a
> bit.  My fianc=E9e does this sort of thing with her first graders every d=
ay.
>  Good technique.  I'll have to make note of this! :)
>
> Best,
> Adam
>



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fools<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 9:31 PM, ^|&=
gt;^m <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:will.it.go.round@gmail.com">w=
ill.it.go.round@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-lef=
t:1ex;">
<i>Tim wrote:</i><div><span style=3D"border-collapse:collapse;font-family:a=
rial, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><i>you just wasted over a minute of my tim=
e...no thanks</i></span></div><div><span style=3D"border-collapse:collapse;=
font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br>

</span></div><div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><span style=3D"border-co=
llapse:collapse">The video was only 21 seconds. =A0Can you account for the =
other 39+=A0seconds=A0that were &quot;wasted&quot;? =A0I&#39;m just curious=
 how Todd is on the hook for that additional time.</span></font></div>

<div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><br><span style=3D"border-collapse:co=
llapse">Todd: looks like a &quot;brain break&quot; to me. =A0Doing somethin=
g physical for a bit. =A0My=A0</span><span style=3D"border-collapse:collaps=
e">fianc=E9e</span><span style=3D"border-collapse:collapse">=A0does this so=
rt of thing with her first graders every day. =A0Good technique. =A0I&#39;l=
l have to make note of this! :)</span></font></div>

<div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><span style=3D"border-collapse:collap=
se"><br></span></font></div><div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><span sty=
le=3D"border-collapse:collapse">Best,</span></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><span style=3D"border-collapse:collap=
se">Adam</span></font></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><font size=3D"6"><span =
style=3D"color:rgb(51, 153, 153)"></span></font><font size=3D"6"><span styl=
e=3D"color:rgb(51, 153, 153)"><font color=3D"#003300"><font size=3D"2"><fon=
t size=3D"2"><b>Tim Clement</b></font><br>
<span style=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)">phone:=A0=A0 416.536.8172</span><br sty=
le=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)">mobile:=A0 6=
47.832.8172</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)"></font></font></span></=
font><font style=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)" color=3D"#888888"><font size=3D"6"=
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hey, just send me your next great composition after spinning around in you
swivel chair, then we'll talk.

On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Tim Clement <tmaclement@gmail.com> wrote:

> fools
>
>
> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 9:31 PM, ^|>^m <will.it.go.round@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> *Tim wrote:*
>> *you just wasted over a minute of my time...no thanks*
>>
>> The video was only 21 seconds.  Can you account for the other
>> 39+ seconds that were "wasted"?  I'm just curious how Todd is on the hoo=
k
>> for that additional time.
>>
>> Todd: looks like a "brain break" to me.  Doing something physical for a
>> bit.  My fianc=E9e does this sort of thing with her first graders every
>> day.  Good technique.  I'll have to make note of this! :)
>>
>> Best,
>> Adam
>>
>
>
>
> --
> *Tim Clement*
> phone:   416.536.8172
> mobile:  647.832.8172
> fax:        416.519.1816
>
>


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hey, just send me your next great composition after spinning around in you =
swivel chair, then we&#39;ll talk.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun=
, May 1, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Tim Clement <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:tmaclement@gmail.com">tmaclement@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">fools<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 9:31 PM, ^|&gt;^m <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:will.it.go.round@gmail.com" target=3D"=
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
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<i>Tim wrote:</i><div><span style=3D"border-collapse:collapse;font-family:a=
rial, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><i>you just wasted over a minute of my tim=
e...no thanks</i></span></div><div><span style=3D"border-collapse:collapse;=
font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br>


</span></div><div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><span style=3D"border-co=
llapse:collapse">The video was only 21 seconds. =A0Can you account for the =
other 39+=A0seconds=A0that were &quot;wasted&quot;? =A0I&#39;m just curious=
 how Todd is on the hook for that additional time.</span></font></div>


<div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><br><span style=3D"border-collapse:co=
llapse">Todd: looks like a &quot;brain break&quot; to me. =A0Doing somethin=
g physical for a bit. =A0My=A0</span><span style=3D"border-collapse:collaps=
e">fianc=E9e</span><span style=3D"border-collapse:collapse">=A0does this so=
rt of thing with her first graders every day. =A0Good technique. =A0I&#39;l=
l have to make note of this! :)</span></font></div>


<div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><span style=3D"border-collapse:collap=
se"><br></span></font></div><div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><span sty=
le=3D"border-collapse:collapse">Best,</span></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><span style=3D"border-collapse:collap=
se">Adam</span></font></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br></div></div><font color=3D"#88=
8888">-- <br><font size=3D"6"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51, 153, 153)"></spa=
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or=3D"#003300"><font size=3D"2"><font size=3D"2"><b>Tim Clement</b></font><=
br>

<span style=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)">phone:=A0=A0 <a href=3D"tel:416.536.817=
2" value=3D"+14165368172" target=3D"_blank">416.536.8172</a></span><br styl=
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This is all unfortunate and I fear my reaction set the stage.  Tim my
apologies.  I've never seen you post to LD and suspect you are new so I
should have held my react.  It was just that you seemed personally robbed b=
y
what was light-hearted and well-meaning energy on Todd's part and I just
reacted in his defense as many of us here know each other well virtually an=
d
have met at annual festivals.  Clearly you care about your 'art' and felt
somewhat devalued.  However I as most of us found Todd's energy positive an=
d
'got' the meaning of what his muse was suggesting.  I'm sorry that you
didn't or didn't see it or just don't agree, your prerogative.

Jim

On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Tim Clement <tmaclement@gmail.com> wrote:

> hey, just send me your next great composition after spinning around in yo=
u
> swivel chair, then we'll talk.
>
>
> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Tim Clement <tmaclement@gmail.com> wrote=
:
>
>> fools
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 9:31 PM, ^|>^m <will.it.go.round@gmail.com> wrote=
:
>>
>>> *Tim wrote:*
>>> *you just wasted over a minute of my time...no thanks*
>>>
>>> The video was only 21 seconds.  Can you account for the other
>>> 39+ seconds that were "wasted"?  I'm just curious how Todd is on the ho=
ok
>>> for that additional time.
>>>
>>> Todd: looks like a "brain break" to me.  Doing something physical for a
>>> bit.  My fianc=E9e does this sort of thing with her first graders every
>>> day.  Good technique.  I'll have to make note of this! :)
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Adam
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Tim Clement*
>> phone:   416.536.8172
>> mobile:  647.832.8172
>> fax:        416.519.1816
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> *Tim Clement*
> phone:   416.536.8172
> mobile:  647.832.8172
> fax:        416.519.1816
>
>


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&
Peter Th=F6rn.  Proceeds
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jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

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This is all unfortunate and I fear my reaction set the stage. =A0Tim my apo=
logies. =A0I&#39;ve never seen you post to LD and suspect you are new so I =
should have held my react. =A0It was just that you seemed personally robbed=
 by what was light-hearted and well-meaning energy on Todd&#39;s part and I=
 just reacted in his defense as many of us here know each other well virtua=
lly and have met at annual festivals. =A0Clearly you care about your &#39;a=
rt&#39; and felt somewhat devalued. =A0However I as most of us found Todd&#=
39;s energy positive and &#39;got&#39; the meaning of what his muse was sug=
gesting. =A0I&#39;m sorry that you didn&#39;t or didn&#39;t see it or just =
don&#39;t agree, your prerogative.<div>
<br></div><div>Jim<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, May 1, 2011 at=
 10:08 PM, Tim Clement <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tmaclement@g=
mail.com">tmaclement@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex;">
hey, just send me your next great composition after spinning around in you =
swivel chair, then we&#39;ll talk.<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Tim Clement <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tmaclement@gmail.com" target=3D"_blan=
k">tmaclement@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">fools<div><div></div><div><br><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 9:31 PM, ^|&gt;^m <span dir=3D"ltr"=
>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:will.it.go.round@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">will.i=
t.go.round@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<i>Tim wrote:</i><div><span style=3D"border-collapse:collapse;font-family:a=
rial, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><i>you just wasted over a minute of my tim=
e...no thanks</i></span></div><div><span style=3D"border-collapse:collapse;=
font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br>



</span></div><div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><span style=3D"border-co=
llapse:collapse">The video was only 21 seconds. =A0Can you account for the =
other 39+=A0seconds=A0that were &quot;wasted&quot;? =A0I&#39;m just curious=
 how Todd is on the hook for that additional time.</span></font></div>



<div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><br><span style=3D"border-collapse:co=
llapse">Todd: looks like a &quot;brain break&quot; to me. =A0Doing somethin=
g physical for a bit. =A0My=A0</span><span style=3D"border-collapse:collaps=
e">fianc=E9e</span><span style=3D"border-collapse:collapse">=A0does this so=
rt of thing with her first graders every day. =A0Good technique. =A0I&#39;l=
l have to make note of this! :)</span></font></div>



<div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><span style=3D"border-collapse:collap=
se"><br></span></font></div><div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><span sty=
le=3D"border-collapse:collapse">Best,</span></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><span style=3D"border-collapse:collap=
se">Adam</span></font></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br></div></div><font color=3D"#88=
8888">-- <br><font size=3D"6"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51, 153, 153)"></spa=
n></font><font size=3D"6"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51, 153, 153)"><font col=
or=3D"#003300"><font size=3D"2"><font size=3D"2"><b>Tim Clement</b></font><=
br>


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<span style=3D"color:rgb(51, 153, 153)"></span><br>
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<span style=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)">phone:=A0=A0 <a href=3D"tel:416.536.817=
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><i>From Bro=
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no apologies, enuf politics, glad you're all buddies, just send me some rea=
l
good music...Todd ain't heavy, he's my brother

On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>wrote=
:

> This is all unfortunate and I fear my reaction set the stage.  Tim my
> apologies.  I've never seen you post to LD and suspect you are new so I
> should have held my react.  It was just that you seemed personally robbed=
 by
> what was light-hearted and well-meaning energy on Todd's part and I just
> reacted in his defense as many of us here know each other well virtually =
and
> have met at annual festivals.  Clearly you care about your 'art' and felt
> somewhat devalued.  However I as most of us found Todd's energy positive =
and
> 'got' the meaning of what his muse was suggesting.  I'm sorry that you
> didn't or didn't see it or just don't agree, your prerogative.
>
> Jim
>
>
> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Tim Clement <tmaclement@gmail.com> wrote=
:
>
>> hey, just send me your next great composition after spinning around in y=
ou
>> swivel chair, then we'll talk.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Tim Clement <tmaclement@gmail.com>wrote=
:
>>
>>> fools
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 9:31 PM, ^|>^m <will.it.go.round@gmail.com>wrote=
:
>>>
>>>> *Tim wrote:*
>>>> *you just wasted over a minute of my time...no thanks*
>>>>
>>>> The video was only 21 seconds.  Can you account for the other
>>>> 39+ seconds that were "wasted"?  I'm just curious how Todd is on the h=
ook
>>>> for that additional time.
>>>>
>>>> Todd: looks like a "brain break" to me.  Doing something physical for =
a
>>>> bit.  My fianc=E9e does this sort of thing with her first graders ever=
y
>>>> day.  Good technique.  I'll have to make note of this! :)
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Adam
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *Tim Clement*
>>> phone:   416.536.8172
>>> mobile:  647.832.8172
>>> fax:        416.519.1816
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Tim Clement*
>> phone:   416.536.8172
>> mobile:  647.832.8172
>> fax:        416.519.1816
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodi=
n
> & Peter Th=F6rn.  Proceeds
> from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.
> jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.
>
> woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com
>



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*Tim Clement*
phone:   416.536.8172
mobile:  647.832.8172
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no apologies, enuf politics, glad you&#39;re all buddies, just send me some=
 real good music...Todd ain&#39;t heavy, he&#39;s my brother<br><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Jim Goodin <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com">jimgoodinmusic@gma=
il.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">This is all unfortunate and I fear my react=
ion set the stage. =A0Tim my apologies. =A0I&#39;ve never seen you post to =
LD and suspect you are new so I should have held my react. =A0It was just t=
hat you seemed personally robbed by what was light-hearted and well-meaning=
 energy on Todd&#39;s part and I just reacted in his defense as many of us =
here know each other well virtually and have met at annual festivals. =A0Cl=
early you care about your &#39;art&#39; and felt somewhat devalued. =A0Howe=
ver I as most of us found Todd&#39;s energy positive and &#39;got&#39; the =
meaning of what his muse was suggesting. =A0I&#39;m sorry that you didn&#39=
;t or didn&#39;t see it or just don&#39;t agree, your prerogative.<div>

<br></div><div>Jim<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote">On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Tim Clement <span dir=3D"ltr">=
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tmaclement@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">tmaclement@gm=
ail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
hey, just send me your next great composition after spinning around in you =
swivel chair, then we&#39;ll talk.<div><div></div><div><br><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Tim Clement <span dir=3D"=
ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tmaclement@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">tmacleme=
nt@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>


<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">fools<div><div></div><div><br><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 9:31 PM, ^|&gt;^m <span dir=3D"ltr"=
>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:will.it.go.round@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">will.i=
t.go.round@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>


<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<i>Tim wrote:</i><div><span style=3D"border-collapse:collapse;font-family:a=
rial, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><i>you just wasted over a minute of my tim=
e...no thanks</i></span></div><div><span style=3D"border-collapse:collapse;=
font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br>




</span></div><div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><span style=3D"border-co=
llapse:collapse">The video was only 21 seconds. =A0Can you account for the =
other 39+=A0seconds=A0that were &quot;wasted&quot;? =A0I&#39;m just curious=
 how Todd is on the hook for that additional time.</span></font></div>




<div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><br><span style=3D"border-collapse:co=
llapse">Todd: looks like a &quot;brain break&quot; to me. =A0Doing somethin=
g physical for a bit. =A0My=A0</span><span style=3D"border-collapse:collaps=
e">fianc=E9e</span><span style=3D"border-collapse:collapse">=A0does this so=
rt of thing with her first graders every day. =A0Good technique. =A0I&#39;l=
l have to make note of this! :)</span></font></div>




<div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><span style=3D"border-collapse:collap=
se"><br></span></font></div><div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><span sty=
le=3D"border-collapse:collapse">Best,</span></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><span style=3D"border-collapse:collap=
se">Adam</span></font></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br></div></div><font color=3D"#88=
8888">-- <br><font size=3D"6"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51, 153, 153)"></spa=
n></font><font size=3D"6"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51, 153, 153)"><font col=
or=3D"#003300"><font size=3D"2"><font size=3D"2"><b>Tim Clement</b></font><=
br>



<span style=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)">phone:=A0=A0 <a href=3D"tel:416.536.817=
2" value=3D"+14165368172" target=3D"_blank">416.536.8172</a></span><br styl=
e=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)">mobile:=A0 <a=
 href=3D"tel:647.832.8172" value=3D"+16478328172" target=3D"_blank">647.832=
.8172</a></span><br style=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)">


</font></font></span></font><font style=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)" color=3D"#8=
88888"><font size=3D"6"><font size=3D"2">fax:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 <a href=
=3D"tel:416.519.1816" value=3D"+14165191816" target=3D"_blank">416.519.1816=
</a></font></font></font><br>



<span style=3D"color:rgb(51, 153, 153)"></span><br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><font size=3D"6"=
><span style=3D"color:rgb(51, 153, 153)"></span></font><font size=3D"6"><sp=
an style=3D"color:rgb(51, 153, 153)"><font color=3D"#003300"><font size=3D"=
2"><font size=3D"2"><b>Tim Clement</b></font><br>


<span style=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)">phone:=A0=A0 <a href=3D"tel:416.536.817=
2" value=3D"+14165368172" target=3D"_blank">416.536.8172</a></span><br styl=
e=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)">mobile:=A0 <a=
 href=3D"tel:647.832.8172" value=3D"+16478328172" target=3D"_blank">647.832=
.8172</a></span><br style=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)">

</font></font></span></font><font style=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)" color=3D"#8=
88888"><font size=3D"6"><font size=3D"2">fax:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 <a href=
=3D"tel:416.519.1816" value=3D"+14165191816" target=3D"_blank">416.519.1816=
</a></font></font></font><br>


<span style=3D"color:rgb(51, 153, 153)"></span><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br></div></div>-- <br=
><i>From Brooklyn To Glindran</i>, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim G=
oodin &amp; Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds<br>from the sale of this CD will ben=
efit JDRF International.=A0 <a href=3D"http://jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.=
com" target=3D"_blank">jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com</a>.<br>

<br><a href=3D"http://woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com" target=3D"_blank">woo=
dandwiremusic.wordpress.com</a><br>
</div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><font size=3D"6"><span =
style=3D"color:rgb(51, 153, 153)"></span></font><font size=3D"6"><span styl=
e=3D"color:rgb(51, 153, 153)"><font color=3D"#003300"><font size=3D"2"><fon=
t size=3D"2"><b>Tim Clement</b></font><br>
<span style=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)">phone:=A0=A0 416.536.8172</span><br sty=
le=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)">mobile:=A0 6=
47.832.8172</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)"></font></font></span></=
font><font style=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)" color=3D"#888888"><font size=3D"6"=
><font size=3D"2">fax:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 416.519.1816</font></font></fon=
t><br>
<span style=3D"color:rgb(51, 153, 153)"></span><br>

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I don't see the ribbon keyboard at all replacing individual keys,
especially with it being so small.  It's definately a different
instrument.

The mini trombone analogy is clever!  There's nothing wrong with
relying on your sense of pitch to compose on the spot.

Using the Monotron as an effect could be really fun and solve the
keyboard problem.  Adding the Modular would make it even more
versatile.  Plus, everything being miniaturized appeals to my inner
five-year-old who still likes dollhouses and tiny tea sets.

Rick, I am so sad I haven't been able to perform the last two years. I
plan for this year to be different.  I am reminded of something I
heard a writing teacher say about becoming a writer: "It takes a lot
of heartbreak to earn your license as a writer, and boy can we drive!"

I'm finding music is the same way.

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<br><br>I don&#39;t see the ribbon keyboard at all replacing individual key=
s,<br>
especially with it being so small. =A0It&#39;s definately a different<br>
instrument.<br>
<br>
The mini trombone analogy is clever! =A0There&#39;s nothing wrong with<br>
relying on your sense of pitch to compose on the spot.<br>
<br>
Using the Monotron as an effect could be really fun and solve the<br>
keyboard problem. =A0Adding the Modular would make it even more<br>
versatile. =A0Plus, everything being miniaturized appeals to my inner<br>
five-year-old who still likes dollhouses and tiny tea sets.<br>
<br>
Rick, I am so sad I haven&#39;t been able to perform the last two years. I<=
br>
plan for this year to be different. =A0I am reminded of something I<br>
heard a writing teacher say about becoming a writer: &quot;It takes a lot<b=
r>
of heartbreak to earn your license as a writer, and boy can we drive!&quot;=
<br>
<br>
I&#39;m finding music is the same way.<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
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> I captured it on video to share with my loopin' brethren.
http://bit.ly/ilsCBG  
 
lovely!  not only as a statement but also as a sound performance 
 
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Actually researchers have found that walking backwards stimulates certain
cognitive pathways in the brain that actually may help with creative problem
solving.  Rolling backwards? It's worth a shot!

 

http://zenstorming.wordpress.com/2009/08/14/walking-backwards-to-a-solution/

 

Plish

www.michaelplishka.com

www.scribbledmusings.com

www.zenstorming.com

 

 

From: Todd Matthews [mailto:gtmatthews@gmail.com] 
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In the midst of doing some recordin' and loopin' I came up with a method to
maximize your creative output for those moments when you feel like you just
don't have the energy to go on. What's so great about this technique is that
it takes less than 30 secs to try this ground breaking new process.

I captured it on video to share with my loopin' brethren. 

http://bit.ly/ilsCBG 

 

-- 
Todd Matthews

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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Actually researchers have found that walking backwards stimulates =
certain cognitive pathways in the brain that actually may help with =
creative problem solving.&nbsp; Rolling backwards? It's worth a =
shot!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><a =
href=3D"http://zenstorming.wordpress.com/2009/08/14/walking-backwards-to-=
a-solution/">http://zenstorming.wordpress.com/2009/08/14/walking-backward=
s-to-a-solution/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Plish<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><a =
href=3D"http://www.michaelplishka.com">www.michaelplishka.com</a><o:p></o=
:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'><a =
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></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><a =
href=3D"http://www.zenstorming.com">www.zenstorming.com</a><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Todd Matthews [mailto:gtmatthews@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May =
01, 2011 5:21 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br><b>Subject:</b> How to get those =
creative juices flowin' !<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>In the midst =
of doing some recordin' and loopin' I came up with a method to maximize =
your creative output for those moments when you feel like you just don't =
have the energy to go on. What's so great about this technique is that =
it takes less than 30 secs to try this ground breaking new =
process.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I captured it on video =
to share with my =
loopin'&nbsp;brethren.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"http://bit.ly/ilsCBG">http://bit.ly/ilsCBG</a>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></=
p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
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That looks like a seriously kick ass rehearsal space. That'd get my  
creative juices flowin' for sure. :)

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Dude!!! as Rick and I were mud wrestling the other day, I said to  
Rick,  what's with that Andy Owens dude? I mean,  doesn't he know that  
our weak attempts to act like the Davies brothers in public is just  
that.. an act??????? And he said ,  pain pills? what that guy must be  
on is more herbal in nature!!............and I said Totally!!!!!!!!
No harm no foul brother man. I understand your inner clown.
  Bill

Andy Owens said:
Sorry to the Walker boys for not-funniness the other day, keep me away  
from the computer when I am on pain pills!!! Will leave smartassedness  
to the Brits from here on out. :(

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to Rick, &nbsp;what's with that Andy Owens dude? I mean, &nbsp;doesn't =
he know that our weak attempts to act like the Davies brothers in public =
is just that.. an act??????? And he said , &nbsp;pain pills? what that =
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>  thoughts much appreciated guys:


I very much like the production value. The sounds themselves. Great bass =
sound for example. What's your setup like?

Also a good use of loops--definitely loop music but not tied down =
completely by it. Good compromise, good way of working using the best of =
both for the final product.=20

And definitely the choice of certain chords broke expectations, so good =
balance of being "experimental" with out being tied down by the need to =
make everything noise, which (in my opinion) well... I won't get into =
that, except to say that here your dissonance is clearly intentional, =
and intentionality is meaning. The timing of those dissonant passages =
gives them their power.=20

And the range of genres is nice, and the transitions between them =
smooth, unforced.=20

Just after the change at 3:15 the track seems to loose energy. Somehow =
it seems back by the time the phrase repeats at 3:40. At that section =
the sort of eery, uncomfortable feeling it gives me, like being only =
half awake, is interesting and perhaps that was the intention behind the =
slowdown but I think that 1st one just... needs... something... Maybe =
something high frequency if the feeling of slowing down is intentional, =
or a long bass filter sweep to make it feel like a drop whereas now my =
consciousness just pops out of the experience of listening to it.=20

That's the only moment I have constructive feedback for, which is my =
favorite part of feedback, so I wish I had more for you.=20

Actually genre wise, I generally don't like some of the more dissonant / =
experimental stuff just because I don't like the genre personally (so =
maybe my 3:15 feedback is just a reflection of me not getting it) but on =
the whole I found the track to be very interesting despite that =
predisposition.=20

Thanks for sharing. Hopefully you find this helpful.=20

Oh, also I'd end it much more quickly.. maybe just the slide up at 5:55 =
after the last of the Sax dies out for only 5 seconds, if that's =
possible. Maybe try it and see what it sounds like... just a thought but =
I think that would mirror the softer beginning like bookends without =
loosing all that power you just built up.=20




On May 1, 2011, at 2:01 PM, Matt Stevens wrote:

> More live loops in a band context - thoughts much appreciated guys:
>=20
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKA9en_aftVE
>=20
> Multiple DL4 loops....
>=20
> Matt Stevens
> http://www.mattstevensguitar.com
> http://www.spencerparkmusic.com
> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com
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"><div><br></div><div>&gt; &nbsp;thoughts much appreciated =
guys:</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I very much like the =
production value. The sounds themselves. Great bass sound for example. =
What's your setup like?</div><div><br></div><div>Also a good use of =
loops--definitely loop music but not tied down completely by it. Good =
compromise, good way of working using the best of both for the final =
product.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>And definitely the choice of =
certain chords broke expectations, so good balance of being =
"experimental" with out being tied down by the need to make everything =
noise, which (in my opinion) well... I won't get into that, except to =
say that here your dissonance is clearly intentional, and intentionality =
is meaning. The timing of those dissonant passages gives them their =
power.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>And the range of genres is nice, =
and the transitions between them smooth, =
unforced.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Just after the change at 3:15 =
the track seems to loose energy. Somehow it seems back by the time the =
phrase repeats at 3:40. At that section the sort of eery, uncomfortable =
feeling it gives me, like being only half awake, is interesting and =
perhaps that was the intention behind the slowdown but I think that 1st =
one just... needs... something... Maybe something high frequency if the =
feeling of slowing down is intentional, or a long bass filter sweep to =
make it feel like a drop whereas now my consciousness just pops out of =
the experience of listening to it.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>That's =
the only moment I have constructive feedback for, which is my favorite =
part of feedback, so I wish I had more for =
you.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Actually genre wise, I generally =
don't like some of the more dissonant / experimental stuff just because =
I don't like the genre personally (so maybe my 3:15 feedback is just a =
reflection of me not getting it) but on the whole I found the track to =
be very interesting despite that =
predisposition.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for sharing. =
Hopefully you find this helpful.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Oh, also =
I'd end it much more quickly.. maybe just the slide up at 5:55 after the =
last of the Sax dies out for only 5 seconds, if that's possible. Maybe =
try it and see what it sounds like... just a thought but I think that =
would&nbsp;mirror the softer beginning like bookends without loosing all =
that power you just built =
up.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div=
><div><div>On May 1, 2011, at 2:01 PM, Matt Stevens wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">More live loops in a band =
context - thoughts much appreciated guys:<div><br></div><div><a =
href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKA9en_aftVE">http://www.youtube.c=
om/watch?v=3DKA9en_aftVE</a></div><div><br></div><div><a =
href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKA9en_aftVE"></a>Multiple DL4 =
loops....</div><div><br><div>
Matt Stevens<br><a =
href=3D"http://www.mattstevensguitar.com/">http://www.mattstevensguitar.co=
m</a><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.spencerparkmusic.com">http://www.spencerparkmusic.com</=
a><br>mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com
</div>
<br></div></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>=

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On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote=
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> I captured it on video to share with my loopin'=C2=A0brethren.
> http://bit.ly/ilsCBG

Fun!

Reminds me about a game I once played with a wheeled tea table: I lay
down on my back on the table and kicked around the house looking up at
the ceiling but seeing it as "the floor". On this floor I once in a
while met upon amazing "swamps", burning by an instant inner light
while balancing on a tremendously thin white stems (the lamps). But
the really mindblowing experience was to look out (or rather "down") a
window into the bottomless blue eternity down there... ;-)

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Hi Christopher -=20

Impressive and useful writing - very thoughtful.=20

The only loops are the ambient DL4 ones running thru the track with me =
manually running them back and forward - everything else is live. The =
sax is a guy called Terry Edwards whos a mate of the bass player - hes =
best known for playing with Spiritualized, Nick Cave and all that. i =
love that edge between experimental and not :).

That was incredibly useful - thanks so much, BTW the bass set up was =
straight into the desk at Livingstone Studios - so i'm not sure - we =
used a metal muff for drive.=20

Thanks again - RE the end - we messed around with a few ideas but i like =
the ambient andybutler/stephen scott inspired bit at the end - i'm bored =
of neat endings :)


Matt Stevens
http://www.mattstevensguitar.com
http://www.spencerparkmusic.com
mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com

On 2 May 2011, at 10:15, Christopher Darrow wrote:

>=20
> >  thoughts much appreciated guys:
>=20
>=20
> I very much like the production value. The sounds themselves. Great =
bass sound for example. What's your setup like?
>=20
> Also a good use of loops--definitely loop music but not tied down =
completely by it. Good compromise, good way of working using the best of =
both for the final product.=20
>=20
> And definitely the choice of certain chords broke expectations, so =
good balance of being "experimental" with out being tied down by the =
need to make everything noise, which (in my opinion) well... I won't get =
into that, except to say that here your dissonance is clearly =
intentional, and intentionality is meaning. The timing of those =
dissonant passages gives them their power.=20
>=20
> And the range of genres is nice, and the transitions between them =
smooth, unforced.=20
>=20
> Just after the change at 3:15 the track seems to loose energy. Somehow =
it seems back by the time the phrase repeats at 3:40. At that section =
the sort of eery, uncomfortable feeling it gives me, like being only =
half awake, is interesting and perhaps that was the intention behind the =
slowdown but I think that 1st one just... needs... something... Maybe =
something high frequency if the feeling of slowing down is intentional, =
or a long bass filter sweep to make it feel like a drop whereas now my =
consciousness just pops out of the experience of listening to it.=20
>=20
> That's the only moment I have constructive feedback for, which is my =
favorite part of feedback, so I wish I had more for you.=20
>=20
> Actually genre wise, I generally don't like some of the more dissonant =
/ experimental stuff just because I don't like the genre personally (so =
maybe my 3:15 feedback is just a reflection of me not getting it) but on =
the whole I found the track to be very interesting despite that =
predisposition.=20
>=20
> Thanks for sharing. Hopefully you find this helpful.=20
>=20
> Oh, also I'd end it much more quickly.. maybe just the slide up at =
5:55 after the last of the Sax dies out for only 5 seconds, if that's =
possible. Maybe try it and see what it sounds like... just a thought but =
I think that would mirror the softer beginning like bookends without =
loosing all that power you just built up.=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On May 1, 2011, at 2:01 PM, Matt Stevens wrote:
>=20
>> More live loops in a band context - thoughts much appreciated guys:
>>=20
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKA9en_aftVE
>>=20
>> Multiple DL4 loops....
>>=20
>> Matt Stevens
>> http://www.mattstevensguitar.com
>> http://www.spencerparkmusic.com
>> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com
>>=20
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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi =
Christopher -&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Impressive and useful writing - =
very thoughtful.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>The only loops are the =
ambient DL4 ones running thru the track with me manually running them =
back and forward - everything else is live. The sax is a guy called =
Terry Edwards whos a mate of the bass player - hes best known for =
playing with Spiritualized, Nick Cave and all that. i love that edge =
between experimental and not :).</div><div><br></div><div>That was =
incredibly useful - thanks so much, BTW the bass set up was straight =
into the desk at Livingstone Studios - so i'm not sure - we used a metal =
muff for drive.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks again - RE the end =
- we messed around with a few ideas but i like the ambient =
andybutler/stephen scott inspired bit at the end - i'm bored of neat =
endings :)</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>
<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; =
color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; ">Matt =
Stevens<br><a =
href=3D"http://www.mattstevensguitar.com">http://www.mattstevensguitar.com=
</a><br>http://www.spencerparkmusic.com<br>mattstevensguitar@btinternet.co=
m</span>
</div>
<br><div><div>On 2 May 2011, at 10:15, Christopher Darrow =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: =
space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br></div><div>&gt; =
&nbsp;thoughts much appreciated =
guys:</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I very much like the =
production value. The sounds themselves. Great bass sound for example. =
What's your setup like?</div><div><br></div><div>Also a good use of =
loops--definitely loop music but not tied down completely by it. Good =
compromise, good way of working using the best of both for the final =
product.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>And definitely the choice of =
certain chords broke expectations, so good balance of being =
"experimental" with out being tied down by the need to make everything =
noise, which (in my opinion) well... I won't get into that, except to =
say that here your dissonance is clearly intentional, and intentionality =
is meaning. The timing of those dissonant passages gives them their =
power.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>And the range of genres is nice, =
and the transitions between them smooth, =
unforced.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Just after the change at 3:15 =
the track seems to loose energy. Somehow it seems back by the time the =
phrase repeats at 3:40. At that section the sort of eery, uncomfortable =
feeling it gives me, like being only half awake, is interesting and =
perhaps that was the intention behind the slowdown but I think that 1st =
one just... needs... something... Maybe something high frequency if the =
feeling of slowing down is intentional, or a long bass filter sweep to =
make it feel like a drop whereas now my consciousness just pops out of =
the experience of listening to it.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>That's =
the only moment I have constructive feedback for, which is my favorite =
part of feedback, so I wish I had more for =
you.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Actually genre wise, I generally =
don't like some of the more dissonant / experimental stuff just because =
I don't like the genre personally (so maybe my 3:15 feedback is just a =
reflection of me not getting it) but on the whole I found the track to =
be very interesting despite that =
predisposition.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for sharing. =
Hopefully you find this helpful.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Oh, also =
I'd end it much more quickly.. maybe just the slide up at 5:55 after the =
last of the Sax dies out for only 5 seconds, if that's possible. Maybe =
try it and see what it sounds like... just a thought but I think that =
would&nbsp;mirror the softer beginning like bookends without loosing all =
that power you just built =
up.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div=
><div><div>On May 1, 2011, at 2:01 PM, Matt Stevens wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">More live loops in a band =
context - thoughts much appreciated guys:<div><br></div><div><a =
href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKA9en_aftVE">http://www.youtube.c=
om/watch?v=3DKA9en_aftVE</a></div><div><br></div><div><a =
href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKA9en_aftVE"></a>Multiple DL4 =
loops....</div><div><br><div>
Matt Stevens<br><a =
href=3D"http://www.mattstevensguitar.com/">http://www.mattstevensguitar.co=
m</a><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.spencerparkmusic.com/">http://www.spencerparkmusic.com<=
/a><br><a =
href=3D"mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com">mattstevensguitar@btinter=
net.com</a>
</div>
=
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Hi there,
I'm looking for a basic script I can adapt to my needs to get "some
predefined actions" just with a single click.

Example: pushing button 1 on my FCB,
- select track 3
- on track 1 go to loop 2
- mute track 7, 8
- unmute track 6

A related question is:
since track 7 and 8 have different 8th per cycle settings (let's say 7 and
8, respectively) how can I 'mute' those tracks at the same time according to
my Master Track 8th per cycle quantization (that detects the basic time
signature of my song) ?

I'm quite sure this can be done with scripts in Mobius.
Any experience ? Suggestions ?
Thanks

- fabio
www.eterogeneo.com

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<div id=3D"post_message_1052">Hi there,=A0<br>I&#39;m looking for a basic s=
cript I can adapt to my needs to get &quot;some predefined actions&quot; ju=
st with a single click.<br><br>Example: pushing button 1 on my FCB,<br>- se=
lect track 3<br>
- on track 1 go to loop 2<br>- mute track 7, 8<br>- unmute track 6<br><br>A=
 related question is:<br>since track 7 and 8 have different 8th per cycle s=
ettings (let&#39;s say 7 and 8, respectively) how can I &#39;mute&#39; thos=
e tracks at the same time according to my Master Track 8th per cycle quanti=
zation (that detects the basic time signature of my song) ?<br>
<br>I&#39;m quite sure this can be done with scripts in Mobius. <br>Any exp=
erience ? Suggestions ?<br>Thanks<br><br>- fabio<br><a href=3D"http://www.e=
terogeneo.com/" target=3D"_blank"><font color=3D"#22229c">www.eterogeneo.co=
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Hello Fellow Loopers,

I want to share this new release with the fine, helpful, inspirational
community of musicians that is Loopers' Delight.

"Hidden Voices of the Grand Piano"

Have a listen @: - http://music.ferdinandmaisel.com -

or via Last.fm -
http://www.last.fm/music/Ferdinand+Maisel/hidden+voices+of+the+grand+piano

Looping with traditional, and 'alternative' playing techniques on a grand
piano, using Ableton 'Live 8'.

Good musical fun ensues. :)

Enjoy...!

-- 
--Ferd
*************
current project: - "Hidden Voices of the Grand Piano"
-- ingredients: piano, computer, hands, muse. SHAKE WELL BEFORE EACH USE.

web: - http://ferdinandmaisel.com
twitter: - @insidethepiano
facebook: 'inside the piano'
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Hello Fellow Loopers,<br>
<br>
I want to share this new release with the fine, helpful, inspirational comm=
unity of musicians that is Loopers&#39; Delight.<br>
<br>
&quot;Hidden Voices of the Grand Piano&quot;<br>
<br>
Have a listen @: - <a href=3D"http://music.ferdinandmaisel.com">http://musi=
c.ferdinandmaisel.com</a> - <br>
<br>
or via Last.fm -=A0 <a href=3D"http://www.last.fm/music/Ferdinand+Maisel/hi=
dden+voices+of+the+grand+piano">http://www.last.fm/music/Ferdinand+Maisel/h=
idden+voices+of+the+grand+piano</a><br>
<br>
Looping with traditional, and &#39;alternative&#39; playing techniques on a=
 grand piano, using Ableton &#39;Live 8&#39;.<br>
<br>
Good musical fun ensues. :)<br>
<br>
Enjoy...!<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>--Ferd<br>*************<br>current pr=
oject: - &quot;Hidden Voices of the Grand Piano&quot;<br>-- ingredients: pi=
ano, computer, hands, muse. SHAKE WELL BEFORE EACH USE.<br><br>web: - <a hr=
ef=3D"http://ferdinandmaisel.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://ferdinandmaisel=
.com</a><br>
twitter: - @insidethepiano<br>facebook: &#39;inside the piano&#39;<br>email=
: <a href=3D"mailto:ferdinandmaisel@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">ferdinand.=
maisel@gmail.com</a><br><br>

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Hi Per,

have you ever tried the sustaniac with your Stick or Stick Guitar?

Best regards,
Johannes

2011/4/25 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>

> Acoustic feedback is a very
> organic process. The Sustainiac C clamp on vibrator gadget is close to
> the real thing and I think you can learn playing acu feedback quite
> well from using it when practicing (a bit more neighbor friendly).
>
>
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<div>Hi Per,</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>have you ever tried the sustaniac with your Stick or Stick Guitar? <br=
><br>Best regards,</div>
<div>Johannes</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/4/25 Per Boysen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboysen@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Acoustic feedback is a very<br>o=
rganic process. The Sustainiac C clamp on vibrator gadget is close to<br>th=
e real thing and I think you can learn playing acu feedback quite<br>
well from using it when practicing (a bit more neighbor friendly).<br><br><=
/blockquote></div><br>-- <br>
<div><a href=3D"mailto:jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com" target=3D"_blank">jenk=
o.nashorn@googlemail.com</a></div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/nashorn" target=3D"_blank">www.myspa=
ce.com/nashorn</a></div>
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Great sound and "feel", Ferdinand !
Can you say something about the process ?
Thanks for pointing it out !

-f
www.eterogeneo.com



2011/5/2 Ferd <ferdinand.maisel@gmail.com>

> Hello Fellow Loopers,
>
> I want to share this new release with the fine, helpful, inspirational
> community of musicians that is Loopers' Delight.
>
> "Hidden Voices of the Grand Piano"
>
> Have a listen @: - http://music.ferdinandmaisel.com -
>
> or via Last.fm -
> http://www.last.fm/music/Ferdinand+Maisel/hidden+voices+of+the+grand+piano
>
> Looping with traditional, and 'alternative' playing techniques on a grand
> piano, using Ableton 'Live 8'.
>
> Good musical fun ensues. :)
>
> Enjoy...!
>
> --
> --Ferd
> *************
> current project: - "Hidden Voices of the Grand Piano"
> -- ingredients: piano, computer, hands, muse. SHAKE WELL BEFORE EACH USE.
>
> web: - http://ferdinandmaisel.com
> twitter: - @insidethepiano
> facebook: 'inside the piano'
> email: ferdinand.maisel@gmail.com <ferdinandmaisel@gmail.com>
>
>

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<div>Great sound and &quot;feel&quot;, Ferdinand !</div>
<div>Can you say something about the process ?</div>
<div>Thanks for pointing it out !</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>-f</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.eterogeneo.com/">www.eterogeneo.com</a></div>
<div><br><br>=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/5/2 Ferd <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:ferdinand.maisel@gmail.com">ferdinand.maisel@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>=
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Hello Fellow Loopers,<br><br>I w=
ant to share this new release with the fine, helpful, inspirational communi=
ty of musicians that is Loopers&#39; Delight.<br>
<br>&quot;Hidden Voices of the Grand Piano&quot;<br><br>Have a listen @: - =
<a href=3D"http://music.ferdinandmaisel.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://musi=
c.ferdinandmaisel.com</a> - <br><br>or via Last.fm -=A0 <a href=3D"http://w=
ww.last.fm/music/Ferdinand+Maisel/hidden+voices+of+the+grand+piano" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.last.fm/music/Ferdinand+Maisel/hidden+voices+of+the+=
grand+piano</a><br>
<br>Looping with traditional, and &#39;alternative&#39; playing techniques =
on a grand piano, using Ableton &#39;Live 8&#39;.<br><br>Good musical fun e=
nsues. :)<br><br>Enjoy...!<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>--Ferd<br>**********=
***<br>
current project: - &quot;Hidden Voices of the Grand Piano&quot;<br>-- ingre=
dients: piano, computer, hands, muse. SHAKE WELL BEFORE EACH USE.<br><br>we=
b: - <a href=3D"http://ferdinandmaisel.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://ferdi=
nandmaisel.com</a><br>
twitter: - @insidethepiano<br>facebook: &#39;inside the piano&#39;<br>email=
: <a href=3D"mailto:ferdinandmaisel@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">ferdinand.=
maisel@gmail.com</a><br><br></blockquote></div><br>

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Ferd,

Great listening material for a moody Monday morning.

The first track reminds me a little of Eastern European hammer  
dulcimer music - something very Rom/Gypsy-like in the melody and  
persistent rhythm to.

I wish I could buy the CD and have it in time for a road trip I'll be  
taking later this week.

It'd be a lovely soundtrack for the Eastern Oregon Deserts.

Looking forward to hearing more.

Bravo!

Ted

On May 2, 2011, at 5:38 AM, Ferd wrote:

> Hello Fellow Loopers,
>
> I want to share this new release with the fine, helpful,  
> inspirational community of musicians that is Loopers' Delight.
>
> "Hidden Voices of the Grand Piano"
>
> Have a listen @: - http://music.ferdinandmaisel.com -
>
> or via Last.fm -  http://www.last.fm/music/Ferdinand+Maisel/hidden+voices+of+the+grand+piano
>
> Looping with traditional, and 'alternative' playing techniques on a  
> grand piano, using Ableton 'Live 8'.
>
> Good musical fun ensues. :)
>
> Enjoy...!
>
> -- 
> --Ferd
> *************
> current project: - "Hidden Voices of the Grand Piano"
> -- ingredients: piano, computer, hands, muse. SHAKE WELL BEFORE EACH  
> USE.
>
> web: - http://ferdinandmaisel.com
> twitter: - @insidethepiano
> facebook: 'inside the piano'
> email: ferdinand.maisel@gmail.com
>

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No. It doesen't make sense to me because it would sustain both
fretboards, bass and melody side, and what attracts me to the Stick is
that you can play different parts on each sides. That's talking the
physical Model-C Sustainiac. I've actually tried my ebow but can't
make it work with the Stick, although the same ebow works fine with
guitars. I've seen stickists using ebow but I suspect they don't have
the PASV4 pickups.

Since a year back my Sustainiac-C is very lame, due to magnet fatigue.
It won't get back into shape until I send the old magnet back to Alan
Hoover and order new and healthy ones. Old magnets worked ok for about
three years and I don't know what gives with this new ones, so I kind
of put it on the shelf for a while. Great studio tool but too bulky to
bring for gigs IMHO.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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www.perboysen.com#
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> Hi Per,
>
> have you ever tried the sustaniac with your Stick or Stick Guitar?
>
> Best regards,
> Johannes
>
> 2011/4/25 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
>>
>> Acoustic feedback is a very
>> organic process. The Sustainiac C clamp on vibrator gadget is close to
>> the real thing and I think you can learn playing acu feedback quite
>> well from using it when practicing (a bit more neighbor friendly).
>>
>
> --
> jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com
> www.myspace.com/nashorn
> http://soundcloud.com/jenko-nashorn
>

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OK. That makes sense.

2011/5/2 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>

> No. It doesen't make sense to me because it would sustain both
> fretboards, bass and melody side, and what attracts me to the Stick is
> that you can play different parts on each sides.

[...]
>
>
> On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Johannes Korn
> <jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Per,
> >
> > have you ever tried the sustaniac with your Stick or Stick Guitar?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Johannes
> >
> > 2011/4/25 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
> >>
> >> Acoustic feedback is a very
> >> organic process. The Sustainiac C clamp on vibrator gadget is close to
> >> the real thing and I think you can learn playing acu feedback quite
> >> well from using it when practicing (a bit more neighbor friendly).
> >>
> >
> > --
> > jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com
> > www.myspace.com/nashorn
> > http://soundcloud.com/jenko-nashorn
> >
>
>


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OK. That makes sense. <br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/5/2 Per Boysen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboysen@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">No. It doesen&#39;t make sense t=
o me because it would sustain both<br>fretboards, bass and melody side, and=
 what attracts me to the Stick is<br>
that you can play different parts on each sides. </blockquote>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">[...]<br><br><br>On Mon, May 2, =
2011 at 2:46 PM, Johannes Korn<br>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jenko.nashorn@googl=
email.com">jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Hi Per,<br>&gt;<br>&gt; have you ever tried the sustaniac with your St=
ick or Stick Guitar?<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Best regards,<br>&gt; Johannes<br>&gt;=
<br>&gt; 2011/4/25 Per Boysen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">pe=
rboysen@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; Acoustic feedback is a very<br>&gt;&gt; organic proces=
s. The Sustainiac C clamp on vibrator gadget is close to<br>&gt;&gt; the re=
al thing and I think you can learn playing acu feedback quite<br>&gt;&gt; w=
ell from using it when practicing (a bit more neighbor friendly).<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; --<br>&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:jenko.nashorn@googlem=
ail.com">jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com</a><br>&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.mys=
pace.com/nashorn" target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/nashorn</a><br>&gt; <a =
href=3D"http://soundcloud.com/jenko-nashorn" target=3D"_blank">http://sound=
cloud.com/jenko-nashorn</a><br>
&gt;<br><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>
<div><a href=3D"mailto:jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com" target=3D"_blank">jenk=
o.nashorn@googlemail.com</a></div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/nashorn" target=3D"_blank">www.myspa=
ce.com/nashorn</a></div><br>

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this is cool man, i'm really diggin' it!

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 10:13 PM, nat grant <natskyplaysdrums@hotmail.com>wrote:

>  hi loopers
>
> wading through about 1000 unread LD emails yesterday and listening to so
> many of your tracks made me get off my arse and upload some of mine - 6 free
> tracks (with loops!) that can be found here:
>
> http://natskyplaysdrums.bandcamp.com/album/mellow-kitty
>
> =) nat
>
> --------------------
> Nat Grant - M.Mus (Perf)
> (percussion)
> http://www.myspace.com/natskyplaysdrums
> http://www.youtube.com/natskyplaysdrums
> http://www.soundcloud.com/natskyplaysdrums
> http://natskyplaysdrums.bandcamp.com (free download)
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this is cool man, i&#39;m really diggin&#39; it!<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 10:13 PM, nat grant <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:natskyplaysdrums@hotmail.com">natskyplaysdrums@hotmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">



<div>
hi loopers<br><br>wading through about 1000 unread LD emails yesterday and listening to so many of your tracks made me get off my arse and upload some of mine - 6 free tracks (with loops!) that can be found here: <br><br>
<a href="http://natskyplaysdrums.bandcamp.com/album/mellow-kitty" target="_blank">http://natskyplaysdrums.bandcamp.com/album/mellow-kitty</a><br><br>=) nat<br><br><div>-------------------- <br>Nat Grant - M.Mus (Perf)<br>
(percussion) <br><a href="http://www.myspace.com/natskyplaysdrums" target="_blank">http://www.myspace.com/natskyplaysdrums</a><br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/natskyplaysdrums" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/natskyplaysdrums</a><br>
<a href="http://www.soundcloud.com/natskyplaysdrums" target="_blank">http://www.soundcloud.com/natskyplaysdrums</a><br><a href="http://natskyplaysdrums.bandcamp.com" target="_blank">http://natskyplaysdrums.bandcamp.com</a> (free download)<br>
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=C2=A0
The local biennial freaky music festival (Open Ears =E2=80=93 www.openears.=
ca)=C2=A0 in Kitchener/Waterloo, Ontario just wrapped up and thought I=E2=
=80=99d pass on loop-related bits.
=C2=A0
Tony Conrad, godfather of drone, played and had two Akai Headrush=E2=80=99s=
 on stage =E2=80=93 a blue and silver model.=C2=A0 His two sets were rather=
 disappointing, though seeing a electric mandolin played like a violin was =
interesting.
=C2=A0
Other than that, an RC20 (or 30) and a DL4 were spotted on the floor for To=
ca Local and Tanya Tagaq Trio, respectively.=C2=A0 Needless to say, but lap=
tops were pretty much everywhere - I got very tired of staring at the apple=
 logo, like it was a white-eyed HAL plotting my destruction...
=C2=A0
On the recent p.a. thread, the touring arm of the Princeton Laptop Orchestr=
a (aka Sideband) had a neat set-up.=C2=A0 Beside each member was a subwoofe=
r (looked a home stereo model) underneath a five-sided dome that had a spea=
ker in each face and on the top, another speaker facing upwards.=C2=A0 As e=
xplained by Jascha Narevson (member of the group and local boy done good), =
this way the sound comes out in a dome, not in a straight line and gives it=
 all a more acoustic characteristic. =C2=A0Full details here: http://silver=
tone.princeton.edu/~skot/plork/delorean/=C2=A0 As a double bassist playing =
with effects, this kind of set-up has instant appeal...=C2=A0 I wonder if=
=C2=A0laying a cabinet on its back may yield a similar result.
=C2=A0
And an LD=E2=80=99er was mentioned =E2=80=93 during the intro of=C2=A0Jasch=
a, some of his commissioners =C2=A0were mentioned, including one from Todd =
Reynolds, who I assume the self-same=C2=A0on the list...
=C2=A0
No looping, but for the guitarists, Matt Rogalsy=E2=80=99s Discipline was a=
 wicked cool installation.=C2=A0 I see a few days ago he put a vid here: ht=
tp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfsKeRLzkSyw.=C2=A0 In a nutshell =E2=80=93 1=
2 guitars, each tuned to one note (though over different octaves), p/u=E2=
=80=99s are reverse wired and generate a signal matching the tuned note.=C2=
=A0 The signal is a classic rock radio station, that has the signal route a=
nd split up.=C2=A0 The strings vibrate when that note is played on the radi=
o.=C2=A0 Very ethereal!=C2=A0 The sound was like 12 e-bowed guitars, but th=
e sound waves were slow and gentle or string-rattling...

=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
ted harms.

Or would you sing somethin' different. Somethin' real. Somethin' *you* felt=
. Cause I'm telling you right now, that's the kind of song people want to h=
ear. That's the kind of song that truly saves people. It ain't got nothin t=
o do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with believin' in yourse=
lf. Sam Phillips, "Walk the Line"
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"=
top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV><FONT size=3D3 face=3DCalibri></FONT>&nb=
sp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D3 face=3DCalibri>The local biennial freaky music festival=
 (Open Ears =E2=80=93 </FONT><A href=3D"http://www.openears.ca/"><U><FONT s=
ize=3D3 face=3DCalibri>www.openears.ca</FONT></U></A><FONT size=3D3 face=3D=
Calibri>)<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>in Kitchener/Water=
loo, Ontario just wrapped up and thought I=E2=80=99d pass on loop-related b=
its.</FONT></DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt" class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3DC=
alibri></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt" class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3DC=
alibri>Tony Conrad, godfather of drone, played and had two Akai Headrush=E2=
=80=99s on stage =E2=80=93 a blue and silver model.<SPAN style=3D"mso-space=
run: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>His two sets were rather disappointing, though seei=
ng a electric mandolin played like a violin was interesting.</FONT></DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt" class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3DC=
alibri></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt" class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3DC=
alibri>Other than that, an RC20 (or 30) and a DL4 were spotted on the floor=
 for Toca Local and Tanya Tagaq Trio, respectively.&nbsp; Needless to say, =
but laptops were pretty much everywhere - I got very tired of staring at th=
e apple logo, like it was a white-eyed HAL plotting my destruction...</FONT=
></DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt" class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;</DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt" class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3DC=
alibri>On the recent p.a. thread, the touring arm of the Princeton Laptop O=
rchestra (aka Sideband) had a neat set-up.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"=
>&nbsp; </SPAN>Beside each member was a subwoofer (looked a home stereo mod=
el) underneath a five-sided dome that had a speaker in each face and on the=
 top, another speaker facing upwards.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbs=
p; </SPAN>As explained by Jascha Narevson (member of the group and local bo=
y done good), this way the sound comes out in a dome, not in a straight lin=
e and gives it all a more acoustic characteristic. <SPAN style=3D"mso-space=
run: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>Full details here: </FONT><A href=3D"http://silverto=
ne.princeton.edu/~skot/plork/delorean/"><U><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D3 f=
ace=3DCalibri>http://silvertone.princeton.edu/~skot/plork/delorean/</FONT><=
/U></A><FONT face=3DCalibri><FONT size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes=
">&nbsp; </SPAN>As a
 double bassist playing with effects, this kind of set-up has instant appea=
l...<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; I wonder if&nbsp;</SPAN>laying=
 a cabinet on its back may yield a similar result.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt" class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;</DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt" class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3DC=
alibri>And an LD=E2=80=99er was mentioned =E2=80=93 during the intro of&nbs=
p;Jascha, some of his commissioners <SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp=
;</SPAN>were mentioned, including one from Todd Reynolds, who I assume the =
self-same&nbsp;on the list...</FONT></DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt" class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;</DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt" class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3DC=
alibri>No looping, but for the guitarists, Matt Rogalsy=E2=80=99s Disciplin=
e was a wicked cool installation.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; <=
/SPAN>I see a few days ago he put a vid here: </FONT><A href=3D"http://www.=
youtube.com/watch?v=3DfsKeRLzkSyw"><U><FONT color=3D#800080 size=3D3 face=
=3DCalibri>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfsKeRLzkSyw</FONT></U></A><FONT=
 size=3D3 face=3DCalibri>.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>I=
n a nutshell =E2=80=93 12 guitars, each tuned to one note (though over diff=
erent octaves), p/u=E2=80=99s are reverse wired and generate a signal match=
ing the tuned note.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>The sign=
al is a classic rock radio station, that has the signal route and split up.=
<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>The strings vibrate when th=
at note is played on the radio.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </S=
PAN>Very ethereal!<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun:
 yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>The sound was like 12 e-bowed guitars, but the sound wa=
ves were slow and gentle or string-rattling...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>ted harms.<BR><BR>Or would you sing somethin' different. Somethin' rea=
l. Somethin' *you* felt. Cause I'm telling you right now, that's the kind o=
f song people want to hear. That's the kind of song that truly saves people=
. It ain't got nothin to do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do w=
ith believin' in yourself. Sam Phillips, "Walk the Line"</DIV></DIV></td></=
tr></table>
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> Example: pushing button 1 on my FCB,
> - select track 3
> - on track 1 go to loop 2
> - mute track 7, 8
> - unmute track 6
>
> A related question is:
> since track 7 and 8 have different 8th per cycle settings (let's say 7
> and 8, respectively) how can I 'mute' those tracks at the same time
> according to my Master Track 8th per cycle quantization (that detects
> the basic time signature of my song) ?

I'm not able to test this at the moment, but the script would look something
like this.
I'm assuing "master track" means the master track for Track Sync Mode.  If
you're
using SyncMode=Out it will be a little different.  If this doesn't work
let's take the
discussion over to the Circular Labs forum.

Jeff




!name Magic Button

# switch to loop 2 on track 1
for 1
  Loop2
next

# find the subCyles value in use by the master track
# this is what used to be called 8thsPerCycle
Variable masterSubCycles
for *
  if trackNumber == trackSyncMaster
     set masterSubCycles subCycles
  endif
next

# Mute tracks 7 and 8 using the subcycles of the master track
for 7,8
  Variable saveSubCycles subCycles
  set subCycles masterSubCycles
  MuteOn
  set subCycles saveSubCycles
next

# unmute track 6
for 6
  MuteOff
next

# leave track 3 selected
Track3

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<div><div><br></div><div>&gt; Example: pushing button 1 on my FCB,</div><di=
v>&gt; - select track 3</div><div>&gt; - on track 1 go to loop 2</div><div>=
&gt; - mute track 7, 8</div><div>&gt; - unmute track 6</div><div>&gt;=A0</d=
iv>
<div>&gt; A related question is:</div><div>&gt; since track 7 and 8 have di=
fferent 8th per cycle settings (let&#39;s say 7</div><div>&gt; and 8, respe=
ctively) how can I &#39;mute&#39; those tracks at the same time</div><div>
&gt; according to my Master Track 8th per cycle quantization (that detects<=
/div><div>&gt; the basic time signature of my song) ?</div><div><br></div><=
/div><div>I&#39;m not able to test this at the moment, but the script would=
 look something like this.</div>
<div>I&#39;m assuing &quot;master track&quot; means the master track for Tr=
ack Sync Mode. =A0If you&#39;re</div><div>using SyncMode=3DOut it will be a=
 little different. =A0If this doesn&#39;t work let&#39;s take the</div><div=
>discussion over to the Circular Labs forum.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Jeff</div><div><br><div><br><div><br></div><div><div><b=
r></div><div>!name Magic Button</div><div><br></div><div># switch to loop 2=
 on track 1</div><div>for 1</div><div>=A0=A0Loop2</div><div>next</div><div>
<br></div><div># find the subCyles value in use by the master track</div><d=
iv># this is what used to be called 8thsPerCycle</div><div>Variable masterS=
ubCycles</div><div>for *</div><div>=A0=A0if trackNumber =3D=3D trackSyncMas=
ter</div>
<div>=A0=A0 =A0 set masterSubCycles subCycles</div><div>=A0=A0endif</div><d=
iv>next</div><div><br></div><div># Mute tracks 7 and 8 using the subcycles =
of the master track</div><div>for 7,8</div><div>=A0=A0Variable saveSubCycle=
s subCycles</div>
<div>=A0=A0set subCycles masterSubCycles</div><div>=A0=A0MuteOn</div><div>=
=A0=A0set subCycles saveSubCycles</div><div>next</div><div><br></div><div>#=
 unmute track 6</div><div>for 6</div><div>=A0=A0MuteOff</div><div>next</div=
><div><br></div>
# leave track 3 selected</div></div></div><div>Track3</div><div><br></div>

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Thank you very much, Jeff.

I've Mobius VST working as a "slave" inside Bidule (transport is the
master).
Track 1 is the "Master Track" in Mobius (it gets the synch from the host)
Track 2-8 are just syncronized to track 1
(BTW: setting Mobius this way I got a perfet synch - don't need to do the
"align" tracks anymore !!!).

I've posted the same question at the CircularLab forum
Hope that your script would work. I'll test it tonight and let you know
tomorrow
(and I'll post the result on the forum too).

Really thanks for your fast support !!!

-f
www.eterogeneo.com



2011/5/2 Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com>

>
> > Example: pushing button 1 on my FCB,
> > - select track 3
> > - on track 1 go to loop 2
> > - mute track 7, 8
> > - unmute track 6
> >
> > A related question is:
> > since track 7 and 8 have different 8th per cycle settings (let's say 7
> > and 8, respectively) how can I 'mute' those tracks at the same time
> > according to my Master Track 8th per cycle quantization (that detects
> > the basic time signature of my song) ?
>
> I'm not able to test this at the moment, but the script would look
> something like this.
> I'm assuing "master track" means the master track for Track Sync Mode.  If
> you're
> using SyncMode=Out it will be a little different.  If this doesn't work
> let's take the
> discussion over to the Circular Labs forum.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
> !name Magic Button
>
> # switch to loop 2 on track 1
> for 1
>   Loop2
> next
>
> # find the subCyles value in use by the master track
> # this is what used to be called 8thsPerCycle
> Variable masterSubCycles
> for *
>   if trackNumber == trackSyncMaster
>      set masterSubCycles subCycles
>   endif
> next
>
> # Mute tracks 7 and 8 using the subcycles of the master track
> for 7,8
>   Variable saveSubCycles subCycles
>   set subCycles masterSubCycles
>   MuteOn
>   set subCycles saveSubCycles
> next
>
> # unmute track 6
> for 6
>   MuteOff
> next
>
> # leave track 3 selected
> Track3
>
>

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<div>Thank you very much, Jeff.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>I&#39;ve Mobius VST working as a &quot;slave&quot; inside Bidule (tran=
sport is the master).</div>
<div>Track 1 is the &quot;Master Track&quot; in Mobius (it gets the synch f=
rom the host)</div>
<div>Track 2-8 are just syncronized to track 1 </div>
<div>(BTW: setting Mobius this way I got=A0a perfet synch - don&#39;t need =
to do the &quot;align&quot; tracks anymore !!!).</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>I&#39;ve posted the same question at the CircularLab forum</div>
<div>Hope that your script would work. I&#39;ll test it tonight and let you=
 know tomorrow</div>
<div>(and I&#39;ll post the result on the forum too).</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Really thanks for your fast support !!!</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>-f</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.eterogeneo.com/">www.eterogeneo.com</a></div>
<div><br><br>=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/5/2 Jeff Larson <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:jeff.larson@sailpoint.com">jeff.larson@sailpoint.com</a>&gt;</=
span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<div class=3D"im">
<div>
<div><br></div>
<div>&gt; Example: pushing button 1 on my FCB,</div>
<div>&gt; - select track 3</div>
<div>&gt; - on track 1 go to loop 2</div>
<div>&gt; - mute track 7, 8</div>
<div>&gt; - unmute track 6</div>
<div>&gt;=A0</div>
<div>&gt; A related question is:</div>
<div>&gt; since track 7 and 8 have different 8th per cycle settings (let&#3=
9;s say 7</div>
<div>&gt; and 8, respectively) how can I &#39;mute&#39; those tracks at the=
 same time</div>
<div>&gt; according to my Master Track 8th per cycle quantization (that det=
ects</div>
<div>&gt; the basic time signature of my song) ?</div>
<div><br></div></div></div>
<div>I&#39;m not able to test this at the moment, but the script would look=
 something like this.</div>
<div>I&#39;m assuing &quot;master track&quot; means the master track for Tr=
ack Sync Mode. =A0If you&#39;re</div>
<div>using SyncMode=3DOut it will be a little different. =A0If this doesn&#=
39;t work let&#39;s take the</div>
<div>discussion over to the Circular Labs forum.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Jeff</div>
<div><br>
<div><br>
<div><br></div>
<div>
<div><br></div>
<div>!name Magic Button</div>
<div><br></div>
<div># switch to loop 2 on track 1</div>
<div>for 1</div>
<div>=A0=A0Loop2</div>
<div>next</div>
<div><br></div>
<div># find the subCyles value in use by the master track</div>
<div># this is what used to be called 8thsPerCycle</div>
<div>Variable masterSubCycles</div>
<div>for *</div>
<div>=A0=A0if trackNumber =3D=3D trackSyncMaster</div>
<div>=A0=A0 =A0 set masterSubCycles subCycles</div>
<div>=A0=A0endif</div>
<div>next</div>
<div><br></div>
<div># Mute tracks 7 and 8 using the subcycles of the master track</div>
<div>for 7,8</div>
<div>=A0=A0Variable saveSubCycles subCycles</div>
<div>=A0=A0set subCycles masterSubCycles</div>
<div>=A0=A0MuteOn</div>
<div>=A0=A0set subCycles saveSubCycles</div>
<div>next</div>
<div><br></div>
<div># unmute track 6</div>
<div>for 6</div>
<div>=A0=A0MuteOff</div>
<div>next</div>
<div><br></div># leave track 3 selected</div></div></div>
<div>Track3</div>
<div><br></div></blockquote></div><br>

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> Track 1 is the "Master Track" in Mobius (it gets the synch from the host)

Okay, then th script will need to be adjusted.  Change this:

    # find the subCyles value in use by the master track
    # this is what used to be called 8thsPerCycle
    Variable masterSubCycles
    for *
      if trackNumber == trackSyncMaster
         set masterSubCycles subCycles
     endif
    next

to this:

    Variable masterSubCycles
    for 1
       set masterSubCycles subCycles
    next


Jeff

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<div>&gt; Track 1 is the &quot;Master Track&quot; in Mobius (it gets the sy=
nch from the host)</div><div><br></div><div>Okay, then th script will need =
to be adjusted. =A0Change this:</div><div><br></div><div>=A0=A0 =A0# find t=
he subCyles value in use by the master track</div>
<div>=A0=A0 =A0# this is what used to be called 8thsPerCycle</div><div>=A0=
=A0 =A0Variable masterSubCycles</div><div>=A0=A0 =A0for *</div><div>=A0=A0 =
=A0 =A0if trackNumber =3D=3D trackSyncMaster</div><div>=A0=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 s=
et masterSubCycles subCycles</div><div>
=A0=A0 =A0 endif</div><div>=A0=A0 =A0next</div><div><br></div><div>to this:=
</div><div><br></div><div>=A0=A0 =A0Variable masterSubCycles</div><div>=A0=
=A0 =A0for 1</div><div>=A0=A0 =A0 =A0 set masterSubCycles subCycles</div><d=
iv>=A0=A0 =A0next</div><div><br></div>
<div><br></div><div>Jeff</div><div><br></div>

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I seem to remember coming across
plenty enough pa speakers with blown tweeters
(just that nobody notices ;-).



andy

Michael Peters wrote:
> the two audio technicians that I know here have both strongly advised me
> against using active speakers (such as the Phonic P5A that Fabio recommends,
> or the Rokit speakers that Markus uses) - both expect that the tweeters
> would soon break because of the occasional high overtones and the strong
> dynamics that is inevitable when playing guitar. What do you think?
> 
> -Michael
> 
> 

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Ha ha ha!!!! Whats really funny, is that maybe 15 years ago, our Sound
engineer wondered why one particular PA was sounding crap, and
checked... HALF of it wasnt working... ONLY the tweeters and on Bass
bin, NO mid range,...

Guess where this was Andy?

Norwich Arts center... heh heh...
He fixed it, was just some caps in a crossover unit... (or soemthing
like that) did the gig... and it was great sound! The owner of the
PASent thank you letters for a few years afterwards!!

M

On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 9:04 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> I seem to remember coming across
> plenty enough pa speakers with blown tweeters
> (just that nobody notices ;-).
>
>
>
> andy
>
> Michael Peters wrote:
>>
>> the two audio technicians that I know here have both strongly advised me
>> against using active speakers (such as the Phonic P5A that Fabio
>> recommends,
>> or the Rokit speakers that Markus uses) - both expect that the tweeters
>> would soon break because of the occasional high overtones and the strong
>> dynamics that is inevitable when playing guitar. What do you think?
>>
>> -Michael
>>
>>
>
>



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+42

On 5/2/2011 7:56 AM, Fabio_A wrote:
> Great sound and "feel", Ferdinand !
> Can you say something about the process ?
> Thanks for pointing it out !
> -f

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mark francombe wrote:

> Guess where this was Andy?
> 
> Norwich Arts center... heh heh...

guru of the NAC sound was a guy
that all the bands called Deaf Jeff.


andy

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This is great! I've listened to it 2 times through today at work.

On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Jim Palmer <jimp@pobox.com> wrote:
> +42
>
> On 5/2/2011 7:56 AM, Fabio_A wrote:
>>
>> Great sound and "feel", Ferdinand !
>> Can you say something about the process ?
>> Thanks for pointing it out !
>> -f
>
>



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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Tim Clement wrote:
> no apologies, enuf politics, glad you're all buddies, just send me 
> some real good music...Todd ain't heavy, he's my brother
Dear Tim,

A lot of us HAVE been on this list and have developed our friendships 
over a  long period of time and have shared a
tremendous amount of creativity with each other at various live looping 
festivals, on line and through our
various CD/DVD releases.  That history is a good thing and has helped 
contribute to a vital and creative atmosphere
on this list.

We absolutely love new blood and new input on this list.   It is always 
great to get the creative juices flowing,
so you are most welcome here.

That said,  your tone in this thread was instantly, angry, dismissive 
and provocative from the get go and
is merely going to cause negative reaction in people.

This is not a moderated list (our founder, the late Kim Flint, was 
always adamant about this) so you
are free, of course, to post anything you want without censure.   It's 
your prerogative.

If you sincerely want to participate in this community,   please,   do 
contribute.    I'm serious.
And if you are serious,  we'll book a performance for you into the next 
live looping festival in a hearbeat
and welcome you in with open arms.

So, why don't you consider how you are percieved,  take a risk and send 
us a link to your own  music so that we know who you are
and the kinds of things that interest you, aesthetically
and let's get back to looping.

You'll find really good, knowledgeable and highly creative people on 
this list and we're pretty good about not holding grudges.
I hope you'll see.

yours,

Rick Walker
founder: Y2KX International Live Looping Festival

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Thanks for that. I got into the idea of Conrad years ago, but found his
music screechy and unlistenable.

Too bad about the laptop people. they should at least do something eye
catching with the fronts of their computers so at least you'll have
SOMETHING interesting to look at. ;-)

Freebird!!!!!!!

J

On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:31 PM, ditch wrestler <ditchwrestler@yahoo.com>wro=
te:

>
> The local biennial freaky music festival (Open Ears =96 *www.openears.ca*=
<http://www.openears.ca/>
> )  in Kitchener/Waterloo, Ontario just wrapped up and thought I=92d pass =
on
> loop-related bits.
>
>
>
> Tony Conrad, godfather of drone, played and had two Akai Headrush=92s on
> stage =96 a blue and silver model.  His two sets were rather disappointin=
g,
> though seeing a electric mandolin played like a violin was interesting.
>
>
>
> Other than that, an RC20 (or 30) and a DL4 were spotted on the floor for
> Toca Local and Tanya Tagaq Trio, respectively.  Needless to say, but lapt=
ops
> were pretty much everywhere - I got very tired of staring at the apple lo=
go,
> like it was a white-eyed HAL plotting my destruction...
>
>
>
> On the recent p.a. thread, the touring arm of the Princeton Laptop
> Orchestra (aka Sideband) had a neat set-up.  Beside each member was a
> subwoofer (looked a home stereo model) underneath a five-sided dome that =
had
> a speaker in each face and on the top, another speaker facing upwards.  A=
s
> explained by Jascha Narevson (member of the group and local boy done good=
),
> this way the sound comes out in a dome, not in a straight line and gives =
it
> all a more acoustic characteristic.  Full details here: *
> http://silvertone.princeton.edu/~skot/plork/delorean/*<http://silvertone.=
princeton.edu/%7Eskot/plork/delorean/>
> As a double bassist playing with effects, this kind of set-up has instant
> appeal...  I wonder if laying a cabinet on its back may yield a similar
> result.
>
>
>
> And an LD=92er was mentioned =96 during the intro of Jascha, some of his
> commissioners  were mentioned, including one from Todd Reynolds, who I
> assume the self-same on the list...
>
>
>
> No looping, but for the guitarists, Matt Rogalsy=92s Discipline was a wic=
ked
> cool installation.  I see a few days ago he put a vid here: *
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfsKeRLzkSyw*<http://www.youtube.com/watc=
h?v=3DfsKeRLzkSyw>
> .  In a nutshell =96 12 guitars, each tuned to one note (though over
> different octaves), p/u=92s are reverse wired and generate a signal match=
ing
> the tuned note.  The signal is a classic rock radio station, that has the
> signal route and split up.  The strings vibrate when that note is played
> on the radio.  Very ethereal!  The sound was like 12 e-bowed guitars, but
> the sound waves were slow and gentle or string-rattling...
>
>
>
> ted harms.
>
> Or would you sing somethin' different. Somethin' real. Somethin' *you*
> felt. Cause I'm telling you right now, that's the kind of song people wan=
t
> to hear. That's the kind of song that truly saves people. It ain't got
> nothin to do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with believin'=
 in
> yourself. Sam Phillips, "Walk the Line"
>
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Thanks for that. I got into the idea of Conrad years ago, but found his mus=
ic screechy and unlistenable.<br><br>Too bad about the laptop people. they =
should at least do something eye catching with the fronts of their computer=
s so at least you&#39;ll have SOMETHING interesting to look at. ;-)<br>
<br>Freebird!!!!!!!<br><br>J<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May =
2, 2011 at 1:31 PM, ditch wrestler <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
ditchwrestler@yahoo.com">ditchwrestler@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px=
 #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<table border=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td styl=
e=3D"font:inherit" valign=3D"top"><div><font face=3D"Calibri" size=3D"3"></=
font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Calibri" size=3D"3">The local biennial freaky music fest=
ival (Open Ears =96 </font><a href=3D"http://www.openears.ca/" target=3D"_b=
lank"><u><font face=3D"Calibri" size=3D"3">www.openears.ca</font></u></a><f=
ont face=3D"Calibri" size=3D"3">)<span>=A0 </span>in Kitchener/Waterloo, On=
tario just wrapped up and thought I=92d pass on loop-related bits.</font></=
div>

<p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 10pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><font face=3D"Calibri"=
 size=3D"3"></font>=A0
</p><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 10pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><font face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">Tony Conrad, godfather of drone, played and had two Akai He=
adrush=92s on stage =96 a blue and silver model.<span>=A0 </span>His two se=
ts were rather disappointing, though seeing a electric mandolin played like=
 a violin was interesting.</font>
</p><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 10pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><font face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3"></font>=A0
</p><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 10pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><font face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">Other than that, an RC20 (or 30) and a DL4 were spotted on =
the floor for Toca Local and Tanya Tagaq Trio, respectively.=A0 Needless to=
 say, but laptops were pretty much everywhere - I got very tired of staring=
 at the apple logo, like it was a white-eyed HAL plotting my destruction...=
</font>
</p><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 10pt" class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0
</p><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 10pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><font face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">On the recent p.a. thread, the touring arm of the Princeton=
 Laptop Orchestra (aka Sideband) had a neat set-up.<span>=A0 </span>Beside =
each member was a subwoofer (looked a home stereo model) underneath a five-=
sided dome that had a speaker in each face and on the top, another speaker =
facing upwards.<span>=A0 </span>As explained by Jascha Narevson (member of =
the group and local boy done good), this way the sound comes out in a dome,=
 not in a straight line and gives it all a more acoustic characteristic. <s=
pan>=A0</span>Full details here: </font><a href=3D"http://silvertone.prince=
ton.edu/%7Eskot/plork/delorean/" target=3D"_blank"><u><font face=3D"Calibri=
" size=3D"3" color=3D"#800080">http://silvertone.princeton.edu/~skot/plork/=
delorean/</font></u></a><font face=3D"Calibri"><font size=3D"3"><span>=A0 <=
/span>As a
 double bassist playing with effects, this kind of set-up has instant appea=
l...<span>=A0 I wonder if=A0</span>laying a cabinet on its back may yield a=
 similar result.</font></font>
</p><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 10pt" class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0
</p><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 10pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><font face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">And an LD=92er was mentioned =96 during the intro of=A0Jasc=
ha, some of his commissioners <span>=A0</span>were mentioned, including one=
 from Todd Reynolds, who I assume the self-same=A0on the list...</font>
</p><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 10pt" class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0
</p><p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 10pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><font face=3D"Cali=
bri" size=3D"3">No looping, but for the guitarists, Matt Rogalsy=92s Discip=
line was a wicked cool installation.<span>=A0 </span>I see a few days ago h=
e put a vid here: </font><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfsKeRL=
zkSyw" target=3D"_blank"><u><font face=3D"Calibri" size=3D"3" color=3D"#800=
080">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfsKeRLzkSyw</font></u></a><font face=
=3D"Calibri" size=3D"3">.<span>=A0 </span>In a nutshell =96 12 guitars, eac=
h tuned to one note (though over different octaves), p/u=92s are reverse wi=
red and generate a signal matching the tuned note.<span>=A0 </span>The sign=
al is a classic rock radio station, that has the signal route and split up.=
<span>=A0 </span>The strings vibrate when that note is played on the radio.=
<span>=A0 </span>Very ethereal!<span>=A0 </span>The sound was like 12 e-bow=
ed guitars, but the sound waves were slow and gentle or string-rattling...<=
/font>
</p><div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>ted harms.<br><br>Or would you sing somethin&#39; different. Somethin&=
#39; real. Somethin&#39; *you* felt. Cause I&#39;m telling you right now, t=
hat&#39;s the kind of song people want to hear. That&#39;s the kind of song=
 that truly saves people. It ain&#39;t got nothin to do with believin&#39; =
in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with believin&#39; in yourself. Sam Phillips=
, &quot;Walk the Line&quot;</div>
</div><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p=
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> You'll find really good, knowledgeable and highly creative people on this list and we're pretty good about not holding grudges.
> I hope you'll see.

Thank you, Rick!

Some how I feel compelled to quote Sir Winston Churchill right here---  

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to the next with no loss of Enthusiasm!"

And on that note, lets hear some looping--   

http://www.youtube.com/chordcluster

cheers-
DST
On May 2, 2011, at 3:48 PM, Rick Walker wrote:

> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Tim Clement wrote:
>> no apologies, enuf politics, glad you're all buddies, just send me some real good music...Todd ain't heavy, he's my brother
> Dear Tim,
> 
> A lot of us HAVE been on this list and have developed our friendships over a  long period of time and have shared a
> tremendous amount of creativity with each other at various live looping festivals, on line and through our
> various CD/DVD releases.  That history is a good thing and has helped contribute to a vital and creative atmosphere
> on this list.
> 
> We absolutely love new blood and new input on this list.   It is always great to get the creative juices flowing,
> so you are most welcome here.
> 
> That said,  your tone in this thread was instantly, angry, dismissive and provocative from the get go and
> is merely going to cause negative reaction in people.
> 
> This is not a moderated list (our founder, the late Kim Flint, was always adamant about this) so you
> are free, of course, to post anything you want without censure.   It's your prerogative.
> 
> If you sincerely want to participate in this community,   please,   do contribute.    I'm serious.
> And if you are serious,  we'll book a performance for you into the next live looping festival in a hearbeat
> and welcome you in with open arms.
> 
> So, why don't you consider how you are percieved,  take a risk and send us a link to your own  music so that we know who you are
> and the kinds of things that interest you, aesthetically
> and let's get back to looping.
> 
> You'll find really good, knowledgeable and highly creative people on this list and we're pretty good about not holding grudges.
> I hope you'll see.
> 
> yours,
> 
> Rick Walker
> founder: Y2KX International Live Looping Festival
> 

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Gentlemen Rick and Daniel both very well said words.

Jim

On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com> wrote=
:

> > You'll find really good, knowledgeable and highly creative people on th=
is
> list and we're pretty good about not holding grudges.
> > I hope you'll see.
>
> Thank you, Rick!
>
> Some how I feel compelled to quote Sir Winston Churchill right here---
>
> "Success is the ability to go from one failure to the next with no loss o=
f
> Enthusiasm!"
>
> And on that note, lets hear some looping--
>
> http://www.youtube.com/chordcluster
>
> cheers-
> DST
> On May 2, 2011, at 3:48 PM, Rick Walker wrote:
>
> > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Tim Clement wrote:
> >> no apologies, enuf politics, glad you're all buddies, just send me som=
e
> real good music...Todd ain't heavy, he's my brother
> > Dear Tim,
> >
> > A lot of us HAVE been on this list and have developed our friendships
> over a  long period of time and have shared a
> > tremendous amount of creativity with each other at various live looping
> festivals, on line and through our
> > various CD/DVD releases.  That history is a good thing and has helped
> contribute to a vital and creative atmosphere
> > on this list.
> >
> > We absolutely love new blood and new input on this list.   It is always
> great to get the creative juices flowing,
> > so you are most welcome here.
> >
> > That said,  your tone in this thread was instantly, angry, dismissive a=
nd
> provocative from the get go and
> > is merely going to cause negative reaction in people.
> >
> > This is not a moderated list (our founder, the late Kim Flint, was alwa=
ys
> adamant about this) so you
> > are free, of course, to post anything you want without censure.   It's
> your prerogative.
> >
> > If you sincerely want to participate in this community,   please,   do
> contribute.    I'm serious.
> > And if you are serious,  we'll book a performance for you into the next
> live looping festival in a hearbeat
> > and welcome you in with open arms.
> >
> > So, why don't you consider how you are percieved,  take a risk and send
> us a link to your own  music so that we know who you are
> > and the kinds of things that interest you, aesthetically
> > and let's get back to looping.
> >
> > You'll find really good, knowledgeable and highly creative people on th=
is
> list and we're pretty good about not holding grudges.
> > I hope you'll see.
> >
> > yours,
> >
> > Rick Walker
> > founder: Y2KX International Live Looping Festival
> >
>
>


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*From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin =
&
Peter Th=F6rn.  Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.
jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

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Gentlemen Rick and Daniel both very well said words.<div><br></div><div>Jim=
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Daniel T=
homas <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:danielthomas4@mac.com">daniel=
thomas4@mac.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class=3D"im">&gt; You&#39;ll find real=
ly good, knowledgeable and highly creative people on this list and we&#39;r=
e pretty good about not holding grudges.<br>

&gt; I hope you&#39;ll see.<br>
<br>
</div>Thank you, Rick!<br>
<br>
Some how I feel compelled to quote Sir Winston Churchill right here---<br>
<br>
&quot;Success is the ability to go from one failure to the next with no los=
s of Enthusiasm!&quot;<br>
<br>
And on that note, lets hear some looping--<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/chordcluster" target=3D"_blank">http://ww=
w.youtube.com/chordcluster</a><br>
<br>
cheers-<br>
DST<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">On May 2, 2011, at 3:48 PM, Rick Walker w=
rote:<br>
<br>
&gt; On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Tim Clement wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; no apologies, enuf politics, glad you&#39;re all buddies, just sen=
d me some real good music...Todd ain&#39;t heavy, he&#39;s my brother<br>
&gt; Dear Tim,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; A lot of us HAVE been on this list and have developed our friendships =
over a =A0long period of time and have shared a<br>
&gt; tremendous amount of creativity with each other at various live loopin=
g festivals, on line and through our<br>
&gt; various CD/DVD releases. =A0That history is a good thing and has helpe=
d contribute to a vital and creative atmosphere<br>
&gt; on this list.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; We absolutely love new blood and new input on this list. =A0 It is alw=
ays great to get the creative juices flowing,<br>
&gt; so you are most welcome here.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; That said, =A0your tone in this thread was instantly, angry, dismissiv=
e and provocative from the get go and<br>
&gt; is merely going to cause negative reaction in people.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; This is not a moderated list (our founder, the late Kim Flint, was alw=
ays adamant about this) so you<br>
&gt; are free, of course, to post anything you want without censure. =A0 It=
&#39;s your prerogative.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; If you sincerely want to participate in this community, =A0 please, =
=A0 do contribute. =A0 =A0I&#39;m serious.<br>
&gt; And if you are serious, =A0we&#39;ll book a performance for you into t=
he next live looping festival in a hearbeat<br>
&gt; and welcome you in with open arms.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; So, why don&#39;t you consider how you are percieved, =A0take a risk a=
nd send us a link to your own =A0music so that we know who you are<br>
&gt; and the kinds of things that interest you, aesthetically<br>
&gt; and let&#39;s get back to looping.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; You&#39;ll find really good, knowledgeable and highly creative people =
on this list and we&#39;re pretty good about not holding grudges.<br>
&gt; I hope you&#39;ll see.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; yours,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Rick Walker<br>
&gt; founder: Y2KX International Live Looping Festival<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><i>From Bro=
oklyn To Glindran</i>, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin &amp; =
Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds<br>from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF In=
ternational.=A0 <a href=3D"http://jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com" target=
=3D"_blank">jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com</a>.<br>
<br><a href=3D"http://woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com" target=3D"_blank">woo=
dandwiremusic.wordpress.com</a><br>
</div>

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This got me!

>>Some how I feel compelled to quote Sir Winston Churchill right here---
 "Success is the ability to go from one failure to the next with no
loss of Enthusiasm!"


A group of innovators and iconoclasts will rarely agree and are
constantly faced with hostile opposition from the outside.  It can be
hard to stop fighting sometimes.

Lindsey

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Thank you Rick,

I was having a difficult day.

Tim

On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Tim Clement wrote:
>
>> no apologies, enuf politics, glad you're all buddies, just send me some
>> real good music...Todd ain't heavy, he's my brother
>>
> Dear Tim,
>
> A lot of us HAVE been on this list and have developed our friendships over
> a  long period of time and have shared a
> tremendous amount of creativity with each other at various live looping
> festivals, on line and through our
> various CD/DVD releases.  That history is a good thing and has helped
> contribute to a vital and creative atmosphere
> on this list.
>
> We absolutely love new blood and new input on this list.   It is always
> great to get the creative juices flowing,
> so you are most welcome here.
>
> That said,  your tone in this thread was instantly, angry, dismissive and
> provocative from the get go and
> is merely going to cause negative reaction in people.
>
> This is not a moderated list (our founder, the late Kim Flint, was always
> adamant about this) so you
> are free, of course, to post anything you want without censure.   It's your
> prerogative.
>
> If you sincerely want to participate in this community,   please,   do
> contribute.    I'm serious.
> And if you are serious,  we'll book a performance for you into the next
> live looping festival in a hearbeat
> and welcome you in with open arms.
>
> So, why don't you consider how you are percieved,  take a risk and send us
> a link to your own  music so that we know who you are
> and the kinds of things that interest you, aesthetically
> and let's get back to looping.
>
> You'll find really good, knowledgeable and highly creative people on this
> list and we're pretty good about not holding grudges.
> I hope you'll see.
>
> yours,
>
> Rick Walker
> founder: Y2KX International Live Looping Festival
>
>


-- 
*Tim Clement*
phone:   416.536.8172
mobile:  647.832.8172
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Thank you Rick, <br><br>I was having a difficult day.<br><br>Tim<br><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Rick Walker <span d=
ir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:looppool@cruzio.com">looppool@cruzio.com</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Tim Clement wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
no apologies, enuf politics, glad you&#39;re all buddies, just send me some=
 real good music...Todd ain&#39;t heavy, he&#39;s my brother<br>
</blockquote>
Dear Tim,<br>
<br>
A lot of us HAVE been on this list and have developed our friendships over =
a =A0long period of time and have shared a<br>
tremendous amount of creativity with each other at various live looping fes=
tivals, on line and through our<br>
various CD/DVD releases. =A0That history is a good thing and has helped con=
tribute to a vital and creative atmosphere<br>
on this list.<br>
<br>
We absolutely love new blood and new input on this list. =A0 It is always g=
reat to get the creative juices flowing,<br>
so you are most welcome here.<br>
<br>
That said, =A0your tone in this thread was instantly, angry, dismissive and=
 provocative from the get go and<br>
is merely going to cause negative reaction in people.<br>
<br>
This is not a moderated list (our founder, the late Kim Flint, was always a=
damant about this) so you<br>
are free, of course, to post anything you want without censure. =A0 It&#39;=
s your prerogative.<br>
<br>
If you sincerely want to participate in this community, =A0 please, =A0 do =
contribute. =A0 =A0I&#39;m serious.<br>
And if you are serious, =A0we&#39;ll book a performance for you into the ne=
xt live looping festival in a hearbeat<br>
and welcome you in with open arms.<br>
<br>
So, why don&#39;t you consider how you are percieved, =A0take a risk and se=
nd us a link to your own =A0music so that we know who you are<br>
and the kinds of things that interest you, aesthetically<br>
and let&#39;s get back to looping.<br>
<br>
You&#39;ll find really good, knowledgeable and highly creative people on th=
is list and we&#39;re pretty good about not holding grudges.<br>
I hope you&#39;ll see.<br>
<br>
yours,<br><font color=3D"#888888">
<br>
Rick Walker<br>
founder: Y2KX International Live Looping Festival<br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><font size=3D"6"=
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an style=3D"color:rgb(51, 153, 153)"><font color=3D"#003300"><font size=3D"=
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<span style=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)">phone:=A0=A0 416.536.8172</span><br sty=
le=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)">mobile:=A0 6=
47.832.8172</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)"></font></font></span></=
font><font style=3D"color:rgb(0, 51, 0)" color=3D"#888888"><font size=3D"6"=
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t><br>
<span style=3D"color:rgb(51, 153, 153)"></span><br>

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Tht's very cool. I would have thought the pickups would have burned out by =
having a signal injected into them though. That's why I paid a small fortun=
e for my sustainiac..

Peace

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Date: Mon=2C 2 May 2011 10:31:49 -0700
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To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

=20
The local biennial freaky music festival (Open Ears =96 www.openears.ca)  i=
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Tony Conrad=2C godfather of drone=2C played and had two Akai Headrush=92s o=
n stage =96 a blue and silver model.  His two sets were rather disappointin=
g=2C though seeing a electric mandolin played like a violin was interesting=
.
=20
Other than that=2C an RC20 (or 30) and a DL4 were spotted on the floor for =
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=20
On the recent p.a. thread=2C the touring arm of the Princeton Laptop Orches=
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=20
=20
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On the recent p.a. thread=2C the touring arm of the Princeton Laptop Orches=
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Just uploaded a vid of a recent gig, my first with a looped acoustic 
and my first using dadgad, which Ive been woodshedding for 6 months.

audio quality from the camera is poor, but it's a gentle performance 
if you're feeling stressed ;)

I did a noise reduction to minimise crowd noise, which has added 
quite an ethereal quality to it all...

zoom 2100 into EDP into alesis akira....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzWlUopsbVU

All the best,

Nick Robinson

music site : 	http://www.looping.me.uk
myspace site :	http://www.myspace.com/nickrobinsonloops
looping forum :	http://loopingmusic.proboards99.com



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Yes, the crowd noise works very well in this piece. Especially when
muffled down like this. Enjoying the listening...

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub



On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 11:35 AM, nick@12testing.net <nick@1957.me.uk> wrote=
:
> Just uploaded a vid of a recent gig, my first with a looped acoustic
> and my first using dadgad, which Ive been woodshedding for 6 months.
>
> audio quality from the camera is poor, but it's a gentle performance
> if you're feeling stressed ;)
>
> I did a noise reduction to minimise crowd noise, which has added
> quite an ethereal quality to it all...
>
> zoom 2100 into EDP into alesis akira....
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DEzWlUopsbVU
>
> All the best,
>
> Nick Robinson
>
> music site : =C2=A0 =C2=A0http://www.looping.me.uk
> myspace site : =C2=A0http://www.myspace.com/nickrobinsonloops
> looping forum : http://loopingmusic.proboards99.com
>
>
>
>

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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Lindsey Walker wrote:
> "A group of innovators and iconoclasts will rarely agree and 
> areconstantly faced with 
> hostile opposition from the outside. It can be hard to stop fighting 
> sometimes."
>

Maybe I'm an old socialist, humanistic hippy,  but I still am of the 
belief that we are stronger when we stand together even if it is
in the belief that it is completely okay to disagree with each other.

A strong culture is one that is both diverse and compassionate, imho.

Mutual respect never takes something away from you.   I believe that  if 
we feel
accepted that we are more willing to accept others.

That might be corny and idealistic and impractical and decidedly 
non-Post modern ironic and cynical,
but that's what  I believe.

rick

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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Tim Clement wrote:
> Thank you Rick,
>
> I was having a difficult day.
>
> Tim
LOL, you are most welcome:    I've had 'em myself so I can completely 
relate.

Please come play the festival in October of this year in Santa Cruz.
We'll figure out a place for you to stay for free and we'd love to hear 
your music.

Rick

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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Jeffrey Collins wrote:
>
> No looping, but for the guitarists, Matt Rogalsy’s Discipline was a 
> wicked cool installation.I see a few days ago he put a vid here: 
> _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsKeRLzkSyw_.In a nutshell – 12 
> guitars, each tuned to one note (though over different octaves), p/u’s 
> are reverse wired and generate a signal matching the tuned note.The 
> signal is a classic rock radio station, that has the signal route and 
> split up.The strings vibrate when that note is played on the 
> radio.Very ethereal!The sound was like 12 e-bowed guitars, but the 
> sound waves were slow and gentle or string-rattling...
>
God, the description sounds awesome.

I'm really into the concept of sympathetic vibrations lately.

My living room has so many resonant instruments (including a half a 
dozen chromatic and open tuned zithers and harps that
if I play anything loudly and acoustically (including just singing), you 
get a lot of sympathetic resonance from the all the instruments.

This is why I so love the Bowed Psaltery: Because it has a chromatic 
scale, every single note you bow will have sympathetic resonance
with anything that is an octave or a fifth away from it. This gives some 
very beautiful, if subtle dissonance when playing
some kind of scale.

It is why I've always described the instrument as being a perfect cross 
between the dissonance inherent in glass harmonica ( resonated crystal 
goblets)
and a violin.

I'm off to watch the video now. Thanks for posting it, Jeffrey. I'd love 
to hear your own looping music (or non-looping music for that matter).

yours,
Rick Walker

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Jeff,=20
that script is amazing, as it allows to change your loops "scene" with a sin=
gle click - very useful if you play pre-composed music.

...but it seems that those functions act in synch but not exactly at the sam=
e time.
That's expecially evident in track 7 and 8: they never get muted together.

I'm wondering if that is caused by my 8ths quantization: since my timing is m=
ostly related to a "pulse" and I don't use the cool SusReplace function, I h=
ave "4" as my 8th per Cycle setting for a 4/4 context.
I've found it to be the best way to get bidule (as master) and Mobius (as sl=
ave) working well.
Then...,maybe it depends by those 8ths settings ?

Oh..., and here I'm still using mobius 1.32, if it could help to solve this i=
ssue.

Just to understand a bit more on your script: I guess that if I change subCy=
cles to Cycle the "slaved" tracks will wait till the loop on Master Track (1=
) will get to the next cycle ?

I'll do more test and will report the results.=20

Thank you very much.

-f
www.eterogeneo.com


Il giorno 02/mag/2011, alle ore 20:59, Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.co=
m> ha scritto:

> > Track 1 is the "Master Track" in Mobius (it gets the synch from the host=
)
>=20
> Okay, then th script will need to be adjusted.  Change this:
>=20
>     # find the subCyles value in use by the master track
>     # this is what used to be called 8thsPerCycle
>     Variable masterSubCycles
>     for *
>       if trackNumber =3D=3D trackSyncMaster
>          set masterSubCycles subCycles
>      endif
>     next
>=20
> to this:
>=20
>     Variable masterSubCycles
>     for 1
>        set masterSubCycles subCycles
>     next
>=20
>=20
> Jeff
>=20

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Hey All,

Thanks for the wonderfully kind comments.... Glad that overall, it is
meeting with approval from this fine crowd... :)

"The process" was asked about.... - In essence, it's all loops... The
differing sounds from the piano are made using 'string method' techniques,
popularized by Henry Cowell (but used by many before and after him)...
Strumming, muting, striking the strings with (clean) fingers and hands, etc.
- Some processing is used (via Ableton - delays, verbs, etc.), and a guitar
processor (one of those little 'POD' devices in the case of 2 pieces on the
CD) - In a few of the pieces, looped segments are edited together to create
the overall arrangement... And in several pieces, it's a 'live' process of
building the loops.

Here's a video of track #9 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnwEY3d0o8A

I hope to post a some more videos of the 'live'-built tracks, in coming
weeks... (They're 'in the can', but I'm working on several projects this
spring that are rather time-consuming in nature, thus several other projects
are 'on hold'.)

Again, thanks so much for giving it a listen, and for the feedback. It's
truly appreciated. :)

--Ferd

On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover
<j.de.roover@gmail.com>wrote:

> This is great! I've listened to it 2 times through today at work.
>
> On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Jim Palmer <jimp@pobox.com> wrote:
> > +42
> >
> > On 5/2/2011 7:56 AM, Fabio_A wrote:
> >>
> >> Great sound and "feel", Ferdinand !
> >> Can you say something about s process ?
> >> Thanks for pointing it out !
> >> -f
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Jean-Paul De Roover
> www.jeanpaulderoover.com
> (807) 251-3376
>
> Check out the brand new video for "You"!
> www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7QnxUgGQPc
>
>


-- 
--Ferd
*************
current project: - "Hidden Voices of the Grand Piano"
-- ingredients: piano, computer, hands, muse. SHAKE WELL BEFORE EACH USE.

web: - http://ferdinandmaisel.com
twitter: - @insidethepiano
facebook: 'inside the piano'
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Hey All,<br><br>Thanks for the wonderfully kind comments.... Glad that over=
all, it is meeting with approval from this fine crowd... :)<br><br>&quot;Th=
e process&quot; was asked about.... - In essence, it&#39;s all loops... The=
 differing sounds from the piano are made using &#39;string method&#39; tec=
hniques, popularized by Henry Cowell (but used by many before and after him=
)... Strumming, muting, striking the strings with (clean) fingers and hands=
, etc. - Some processing is used (via Ableton - delays, verbs, etc.), and a=
 guitar processor (one of those little &#39;POD&#39; devices in the case of=
 2 pieces on the CD) - In a few of the pieces, looped segments are edited t=
ogether to create the overall arrangement... And in several pieces, it&#39;=
s a &#39;live&#39; process of building the loops.<br>
<br>Here&#39;s a video of track #9 - <a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watc=
h?v=3DFnwEY3d0o8A">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DFnwEY3d0o8A</a> <br><br=
>I hope to post a some more videos of the &#39;live&#39;-built tracks, in c=
oming weeks... (They&#39;re &#39;in the can&#39;, but I&#39;m working on se=
veral projects this spring that are rather time-consuming in nature, thus s=
everal other projects are &#39;on hold&#39;.)<br>
<br>Again, thanks so much for giving it a listen, and for the feedback. It&=
#39;s truly appreciated. :)<br><br>--Ferd<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
>On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:j.de.roover@gmail.com">j.de.roover@gmail.com</a>&gt;</spa=
n> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">This is great! I&#39;ve listened to it 2 ti=
mes through today at work.<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Jim Palmer &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jimp@pobox=
.com">jimp@pobox.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; +42<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On 5/2/2011 7:56 AM, Fabio_A wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Great sound and &quot;feel&quot;, Ferdinand !<br>
&gt;&gt; Can you say something about s process ?<br>
&gt;&gt; Thanks for pointing it out !<br>
&gt;&gt; -f<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</div></div><font color=3D"#888888">--<br>
Jean-Paul De Roover<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.jeanpaulderoover.com" target=3D"_blank">www.jeanpauld=
eroover.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"tel:%28807%29%20251-3376" value=3D"+18072513376">(807) 251-3376<=
/a><br>
<br>
Check out the brand new video for &quot;You&quot;!<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DW7QnxUgGQPc" target=3D"_blank">=
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DW7QnxUgGQPc</a><br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>--Ferd<br>******=
*******<br>current project: - &quot;Hidden Voices of the Grand Piano&quot;<=
br>-- ingredients: piano, computer, hands, muse. SHAKE WELL BEFORE EACH USE=
.<br>
<br>web: - <a href=3D"http://ferdinandmaisel.com/" target=3D"_blank">http:/=
/ferdinandmaisel.com</a><br>twitter: - @insidethepiano<br>facebook: &#39;in=
side the piano&#39;<br>email: <a href=3D"mailto:ferdinandmaisel@gmail.com" =
target=3D"_blank">ferdinand.maisel@gmail.com</a><br>
<br>

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Hi to all loopers of the world, I would like to organize annother festival here 
in Florence (Italy)
I dont't exactly know the date but the period should be in July, unfortunately 
we can't  
support your expenses for the travel but we can do something about the 
hosting.
Is anybody interested? 

Massimo Liverani     

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Well put, Rick!  It's not corny at all.

Lindsey

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Hi gang,

I'd like to forward this to you - it's an info I got from Gerald Fiebig, 
a creative kinda-noise artist residing in Augsburg, who below links to 
two broadcasts of his works (German radio, webstream available).
Translation in parts:
"Moving Chambers
A Trubute to Alvin Lucier
The American composer and sound designer Alvin Lucier [...] explored, in 
his best-known piece "I am sitting in a room" the changes in a recording 
by room resonances, by repeated playback and re-recording of said 
recording.Gerald Fiebig's "Moving Chambers" is a piece about change in 
sound (reception) by change of location. In five phases, Fiebig reflects 
his move from a condo with a harmonium to another condo next to a rail 
track."

Friday, May 13th, 23:05 MESZ (2105 UTC)
http://www.wdr.de/wdrlive/wdrplayer/wdr3player.html


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Betreff: 	Neue Audioarbeiten von Gerald Fiebig im Radio - WDR3 13.05.11 
und BR-Klassik 26.05.11
Datum: 	Mon, 2 May 2011 16:57:31 -0400 (EDT)
Von: 	geraldfiebig@aol.com
An: 	GeraldFiebig@aol.com



Liebe Freundinnen, Freunde und KollegInnen,

im Mai werden zwei grÃ¶ÃŸere Arbeiten von mir im Radio zu hÃ¶ren sein - 
selbstverstÃ¤ndlich auch per Livestream Ã¼bers Internet.

"Moving Chambers. A Tribute to Alvin Lucier" ist eine radiophone 
Komposition (fast) ohne Worte und wird nach der Sendung noch einige Tage 
zum kostenlosen MP3-Download von der WDR-Website verfÃ¼gbar sein.

"Stimmen hÃ¶ren" ist ein klassisches Feuilleton-Feature, enthÃ¤lt 
allerdings neben den HÃ¶rbeispielen von Edgard VarÃ¨se, Alvin Lucier, 
Phill Niblock und GyÃ¶rgy Ligeti auch zwei HÃ¶rbilder, die ich aus 
EinstimmklÃ¤ngen des BR-Orchesters komponieren durfte.

NÃ¤heres dazu findet sich unten.

Beste GrÃ¼ÃŸe und viel SpaÃŸ beim HÃ¶ren

Gerald Fiebig

+++

WDR 3
Studio Akustische Kunst
Freitag, 13.05.11 um 23:05 Uhr
*Moving Chambers
A Tribute to Alvin Lucier* 
<http://www.wdr3.de/open-studio-akustische-kunst/details/artikel/moving-chambers-a-tribute-to-alvin-lucier.html>
Der amerikanische Komponist und Klangexperimentator Alvin Lucier 
<http://alucier.web.wesleyan.edu/>, der am 14. Mai seinen 80. Geburtstag 
feiert, erkundete in einem seiner bekanntesten StÃ¼cke â€žI am sitting in a 
roomâ€œ die VerÃ¤nderungen einer Aufnahme durch die Resonanzschwingungen 
des Raumes, in dem die Aufnahme immer wieder abgespielt und neu 
aufgenommen wird. Gerald Fiebigs â€žMoving Chambersâ€œ ist ein StÃ¼ck Ã¼ber 
die VerÃ¤nderung von Klang(wahrnehmung) durch Ortswechsel. Fiebig 
reflektiert darin in fÃ¼nf Phasen seinen eigenen Umzug aus einer Wohnung, 
in der ein Harmonium stand, in eine Wohnung, die an einer Bahnstrecke 
liegt. Durch Transformationen und Ãœberlagerung einer Harmoniumaufnahme 
mit der Klangwelt der neuen Wohnung scheinen sich rÃ¤umliche Begrenzungen 
aufzulÃ¶sen.
von Gerald Fiebig
Realisation: der Autor
Produktion: WDR 2011 / ca. 40â€™
Redaktion: Markus Heuger

Online hÃ¶ren: http://www.wdr.de/wdrlive/wdrplayer/wdr3player.html


BR-Klassik <http://www.br-online.de/br-klassik/>
Donnerstag, 26.05.11 um 21:03 Uhr
*Stimmen hÃ¶ren
Vom Ã¤sthetischen Reiz des Einstimmens und Verstimmens*
Jeder Musikliebhaber hat es schon unzÃ¤hlige Male gehÃ¶rt - je hÃ¤ufiger er 
ins Konzert geht, desto Ã¶fter: das Einstimmen. Bewusst wahrgenommen wird 
es dennoch selten. Der "offiziellen" AuffÃ¼hrung lauscht man in 
konzentrierter Stille. Das Einstimmen hingegen Ã¼berhÃ¶rt man 
geflissentlich, unterhÃ¤lt sich stattdessen lieber oder liest das 
Programm. Schade eigentlich! Denn das bewusste HÃ¶ren auf das Einstimmen 
erlaubt durchaus akustische Erlebnisse von Ã¤sthetischem Reiz. Entdecken 
lassen sich beispielsweise ungewÃ¶hnliche Klangfarbenmelodien, hypnotisch 
sich wiederholende Streicherrhythmen und vieles mehr, wie Gerald Fiebig 
in den HÃ¶rbildern seines Features demonstriert. Und sogar das Verstimmen 
hat in der Musik des 20. und 21. Jahrhunderts seinen Platz gefunden, 
indem es Wege zu Klangwelten jenseits der temperierten Skala erÃ¶ffnet. 
Kompositionen von Edgard VarÃ¨se, GyÃ¶rgy Ligeti, Alvin Lucier 
<http://alucier.web.wesleyan.edu/> und Phill Niblock 
<http://www.phillniblock.com/> belegen: Was einst nur stÃ¶rendes GerÃ¤usch 
war, erweist sich als neues Terrain fÃ¼r die Musik.
von Gerald Fiebig
Produktion: BR 2011 / ca 53'
Redaktion: Alexandra-Maria Dielitz

Online hÃ¶ren: http://www.br-online.de/br-klassik/

-- 
http://moinlabs.de
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http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/top20-04apr.html

WDIY 88.1 FM "Galactic Travels" Top 20 for April, 2011.
Shows #731 to #734; 7-April-2011 to 28-April-2011
Reported in non-ranked, alphanumeric order.
Compiled by Bill Fox

The Special Focus for April was Ombient.
http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#apr


ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL
========================================================================
A Dancing Beggar - Follow the Dark As If It Were Light - Audiobulb
Bruno Sanfilippo - Subliminal Pulse - Spotted Peccary
Forrest Fang's Sans Serif - Unbound - Projekt
Hypnosphere - Magnetism - Spheric Music
Jeffrey Koepper - Radiate - Ricochet Dream
Klaus Schulze and Lisa Gerrard - Farscape - Synthetic Symphony
M. Peck - Glacial - Gears of Sand
Markus Reuter and Zero Ohms - The Sun Is Just the Sun, But the Stars
                                           They Call the Heavens - DiNDDL
Max Corbacho - Deep Time - ad321
Mystified - Tribute to Forbidden Planet - Roil Noise
Ombient - Oceans Edge - none
Ombient - Ombient - none
Ombient - Rites of Passage - none
Ombient - The Wheel Turns - none
Sensitive Chaos - Meditation Modulation Manipulation - Ping Things
The Glimmer Room - A Diaray of Occurrences - A-Frame Media
Time Being - A Dimension Reflected - Lotuspike
Vic Hennegan - Desert God - Space for Music
Vic Hennegan - Field of Worlds and Mirrors - Alien Tribes Music
vidnaObmana - Chasing the Odyssee - Tone Float

Bill
========================================================================
Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show,
Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in
Trexlertown and Fogelsville.  WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio
on 88.1 FM.
Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info
Listen to WDIY on-line.

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Rick, you sound to me like you should have been a Canadian!

or at least that was how my ideal Canada would be like.....

Paul Haslem
www.dulcify.ca
Ontario, Canada








At 07:47 AM 5/3/2011, you wrote:
>On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Lindsey Walker wrote:
>>"A group of innovators and iconoclasts will rarely agree and 
>>areconstantly faced with hostile opposition from the outside. It 
>>can be hard to stop fighting sometimes."
>
>Maybe I'm an old socialist, humanistic hippy,  but I still am of the 
>belief that we are stronger when we stand together even if it is
>in the belief that it is completely okay to disagree with each other.
>
>A strong culture is one that is both diverse and compassionate, imho.
>
>Mutual respect never takes something away from you.   I believe 
>that  if we feel
>accepted that we are more willing to accept others.
>
>That might be corny and idealistic and impractical and decidedly 
>non-Post modern ironic and cynical,
>but that's what  I believe.
>
>rick

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Fascinating concept.=0A=0AWhen we were moving into our new house, I spent a=
 week painting it while it was =0Aempty. The empty front room with wood flo=
ors was one of the best sounding spaces =0AI have ever played acoustic guit=
ar in. Now, with furniture and a rug, it is not =0Aas good. I need to convi=
nce my wife to empty that room out.......=0A=0AThanks,=0AEric=0A=0A=0A=0A=
=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Rainer Straschill <moinsound@go=
oglemail.com>=0ATo: Looper's Delight Mailing List <Loopers-Delight@loopers-=
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ot from Gerald Fiebig, a =0Acreative kinda-noise artist residing in Augsbur=
g, who below links to two =0Abroadcasts of his works (German radio, webstre=
am available).=0ATranslation in parts:=0A"Moving Chambers=0AA Trubute to Al=
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lects his move from a condo with a =0Aharmonium to another condo next to a =
rail track."=0A=0AFriday, May 13th, 23:05 MESZ (2105 UTC)=0Ahttp://www.wdr.=
de/wdrlive/wdrplayer/wdr3player.html=0A=0A=0A-------- Original-Nachricht --=
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=0AFreitag, 13.05.11 um 23:05 Uhr=0A*Moving Chambers=0AA Tribute to Alvin L=
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r=0A=0AOnline h=C3=B6ren: http://www.wdr.de/wdrlive/wdrplayer/wdr3player.ht=
ml=0A=0A=0ABR-Klassik <http://www.br-online.de/br-klassik/>=0ADonnerstag, 2=
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=0AEinstimmen hingegen =C3=BCberh=C3=B6rt man geflissentlich, unterh=C3=A4l=
t sich stattdessen =0Alieber oder liest das Programm. Schade eigentlich! De=
nn das bewusste H=C3=B6ren auf =0Adas Einstimmen erlaubt durchaus akustisch=
e Erlebnisse von =C3=A4sthetischem Reiz. =0AEntdecken lassen sich beispiels=
weise ungew=C3=B6hnliche Klangfarbenmelodien, =0Ahypnotisch sich wiederhole=
nde Streicherrhythmen und vieles mehr, wie Gerald =0AFiebig in den H=C3=B6r=
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e zu Klangwelten jenseits der temperierten Skala er=C3=B6ffnet. Komposition=
en von =0AEdgard Var=C3=A8se, Gy=C3=B6rgy Ligeti, Alvin Lucier <http://aluc=
ier.web.wesleyan.edu/> =0Aund Phill Niblock <http://www.phillniblock.com/> =
belegen: Was einst nur =0Ast=C3=B6rendes Ger=C3=A4usch war, erweist sich al=
s neues Terrain f=C3=BCr die Musik.=0Avon Gerald Fiebig=0AProduktion: BR 20=
11 / ca 53'=0ARedaktion: Alexandra-Maria Dielitz=0A=0AOnline h=C3=B6ren: ht=
tp://www.br-online.de/br-klassik/=0A=0A-- http://moinlabs.de=0AFollow me on=
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ad><body><div style=3D"font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;fon=
t-size:12pt"><div>Fascinating concept.<br><br>When we were moving into our =
new house, I spent a week painting it while it was empty. The empty front r=
oom with wood floors was one of the best sounding spaces I have ever played=
 acoustic guitar in. Now, with furniture and a rug, it is not as good. I ne=
ed to convince my wife to empty that room out.......<br><br>Thanks,<br>Eric=
<br></div><div style=3D"font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; =
font-size: 12pt;"><br><div style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif=
; font-size: 10pt;"><font face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><hr size=3D"1"><b><spa=
n style=3D"font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Rainer Straschill &lt;moins=
ound@googlemail.com&gt;<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span>=
</b> Looper's Delight Mailing List
 &lt;Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com&gt;<br><b><span style=3D"font-weig=
ht: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tue, May 3, 2011 2:57:27 PM<br><b><span style=
=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Fwd: Neue Audioarbeiten von Ge=
rald Fiebig im Radio - WDR3 13.05.11 und BR-Klassik 26.05.11]<br></font><br=
>=0AHi gang,<br><br>I'd like to forward this to you - it's an info I got fr=
om Gerald Fiebig, a creative kinda-noise artist residing in Augsburg, who b=
elow links to two broadcasts of his works (German radio, webstream availabl=
e).<br>Translation in parts:<br>"Moving Chambers<br>A Trubute to Alvin Luci=
er<br>The American composer and sound designer Alvin Lucier [...] explored,=
 in his best-known piece "I am sitting in a room" the changes in a recordin=
g by room resonances, by repeated playback and re-recording of said recordi=
ng.Gerald Fiebig's "Moving Chambers" is a piece about change in sound (rece=
ption) by change of location. In five phases, Fiebig reflects his move from=
 a condo with a harmonium to another condo next to a rail track."<br><br>Fr=
iday, May 13th, 23:05 MESZ (2105 UTC)<br><span><a target=3D"_blank" href=3D=
"http://www.wdr.de/wdrlive/wdrplayer/wdr3player.html">http://www.wdr.de/wdr=
live/wdrplayer/wdr3player.html</a></span><br><br><br>--------
 Original-Nachricht --------<br>Betreff: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Neue Audioarbei=
ten von Gerald Fiebig im Radio - WDR3 13.05.11 und BR-Klassik 26.05.11<br>D=
atum: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Mon, 2 May 2011 16:57:31 -0400 (EDT)<br>Von: &nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a ymailto=3D"mailto:geraldfiebig@aol.com" href=3D"mailto:ger=
aldfiebig@aol.com">geraldfiebig@aol.com</a><br>An: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a ym=
ailto=3D"mailto:GeraldFiebig@aol.com" href=3D"mailto:GeraldFiebig@aol.com">=
GeraldFiebig@aol.com</a><br><br><br><br>Liebe Freundinnen, Freunde und Koll=
egInnen,<br><br>im Mai werden zwei gr=C3=B6=C3=9Fere Arbeiten von mir im Ra=
dio zu h=C3=B6ren sein - selbstverst=C3=A4ndlich auch per Livestream =C3=BC=
bers Internet.<br><br>"Moving Chambers. A Tribute to Alvin Lucier" ist eine=
 radiophone Komposition (fast) ohne Worte und wird nach der Sendung noch ei=
nige Tage zum kostenlosen MP3-Download von der WDR-Website verf=C3=BCgbar s=
ein.<br><br>"Stimmen h=C3=B6ren" ist ein klassisches Feuilleton-Feature, en=
th=C3=A4lt allerdings neben den
 H=C3=B6rbeispielen von Edgard Var=C3=A8se, Alvin Lucier, Phill Niblock und=
 Gy=C3=B6rgy Ligeti auch zwei H=C3=B6rbilder, die ich aus Einstimmkl=C3=A4n=
gen des BR-Orchesters komponieren durfte.<br><br>N=C3=A4heres dazu findet s=
ich unten.<br><br>Beste Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe und viel Spa=C3=9F beim H=C3=B6ren<=
br><br>Gerald Fiebig<br><br>+++<br><br>WDR 3<br>Studio Akustische Kunst<br>=
Freitag, 13.05.11 um 23:05 Uhr<br>*Moving Chambers<br><span>A Tribute to Al=
vin Lucier* &lt;<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.wdr3.de/open-studio=
-akustische-kunst/details/artikel/moving-chambers-a-tribute-to-alvin-lucier=
.html">http://www.wdr3.de/open-studio-akustische-kunst/details/artikel/movi=
ng-chambers-a-tribute-to-alvin-lucier.html</a>&gt;</span><br><span>Der amer=
ikanische Komponist und Klangexperimentator Alvin Lucier &lt;<a target=3D"_=
blank" href=3D"http://alucier.web.wesleyan.edu/">http://alucier.web.wesleya=
n.edu/</a>&gt;, der am 14. Mai seinen 80. Geburtstag feiert, erkundete in e=
inem seiner bekanntesten St=C3=BCcke =E2=80=9EI am
 sitting in a room=E2=80=9C die Ver=C3=A4nderungen einer Aufnahme durch die=
 Resonanzschwingungen des Raumes, in dem die Aufnahme immer wieder abgespie=
lt und neu aufgenommen wird. Gerald Fiebigs =E2=80=9EMoving Chambers=E2=80=
=9C ist ein St=C3=BCck =C3=BCber die Ver=C3=A4nderung von Klang(wahrnehmung=
) durch Ortswechsel. Fiebig reflektiert darin in f=C3=BCnf Phasen seinen ei=
genen Umzug aus einer Wohnung, in der ein Harmonium stand, in eine Wohnung,=
 die an einer Bahnstrecke liegt. Durch Transformationen und =C3=9Cberlageru=
ng einer Harmoniumaufnahme mit der Klangwelt der neuen Wohnung scheinen sic=
h r=C3=A4umliche Begrenzungen aufzul=C3=B6sen.</span><br>von Gerald Fiebig<=
br>Realisation: der Autor<br>Produktion: WDR 2011 / ca. 40=E2=80=99<br>Reda=
ktion: Markus Heuger<br><br>Online h=C3=B6ren: <a href=3D"http://www.wdr.de=
/wdrlive/wdrplayer/wdr3player.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.wdr.de/wdr=
live/wdrplayer/wdr3player.html</a><br><br><br><span>BR-Klassik &lt;<a targe=
t=3D"_blank"
 href=3D"http://www.br-online.de/br-klassik/">http://www.br-online.de/br-kl=
assik/</a>&gt;</span><br>Donnerstag, 26.05.11 um 21:03 Uhr<br>*Stimmen h=C3=
=B6ren<br>Vom =C3=A4sthetischen Reiz des Einstimmens und Verstimmens*<br>Je=
der Musikliebhaber hat es schon unz=C3=A4hlige Male geh=C3=B6rt - je h=C3=
=A4ufiger er ins Konzert geht, desto =C3=B6fter: das Einstimmen. Bewusst wa=
hrgenommen wird es dennoch selten. Der "offiziellen" Auff=C3=BChrung lausch=
t man in konzentrierter Stille. Das Einstimmen hingegen =C3=BCberh=C3=B6rt =
man geflissentlich, unterh=C3=A4lt sich stattdessen lieber oder liest das P=
rogramm. Schade eigentlich! Denn das bewusste H=C3=B6ren auf das Einstimmen=
 erlaubt durchaus akustische Erlebnisse von =C3=A4sthetischem Reiz. Entdeck=
en lassen sich beispielsweise ungew=C3=B6hnliche Klangfarbenmelodien, hypno=
tisch sich wiederholende Streicherrhythmen und vieles mehr, wie Gerald Fieb=
ig in den H=C3=B6rbildern seines Features demonstriert. Und sogar das Verst=
immen hat in der Musik des 20. und 21. Jahrhunderts
 seinen Platz gefunden, indem es Wege zu Klangwelten jenseits der temperier=
ten Skala er=C3=B6ffnet. Kompositionen von Edgard Var=C3=A8se, Gy=C3=B6rgy =
Ligeti, Alvin Lucier &lt;<a href=3D"http://alucier.web.wesleyan.edu/" targe=
t=3D"_blank">http://alucier.web.wesleyan.edu/</a><span>&gt; und Phill Niblo=
ck &lt;<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.phillniblock.com/">http://ww=
w.phillniblock.com/</a>&gt; belegen: Was einst nur st=C3=B6rendes Ger=C3=A4=
usch war, erweist sich als neues Terrain f=C3=BCr die Musik.</span><br>von =
Gerald Fiebig<br>Produktion: BR 2011 / ca 53'<br>Redaktion: Alexandra-Maria=
 Dielitz<br><br>Online h=C3=B6ren: <a href=3D"http://www.br-online.de/br-kl=
assik/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.br-online.de/br-klassik/</a><br><br><s=
pan>-- <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://moinlabs.de">http://moinlabs.de<=
/a></span><br><span>Follow me on twitter: <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http=
://twitter.com/moinlabs">http://twitter.com/moinlabs</a></span><br><br></di=
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I've been notably absent from list-land, I know...as always, enjoying the
conversations. I just wanted to give a shout-out here to Todd Reynolds'
"Outerborough", which I don't believe has really been chatted up here. It's
a double album, half of his own compositions, half from other people, and
(mostly? all?) recorded in his bedroom, as briefly noted a month or two ago
(and it sounds great, too).

It's *stunning*. Not what you would call an over-all "loop" record, but
there is certainly much use of looping and sampling and processing, live and
otherwise. Really interesting sounds in the service of really great,
soulful, exploratory compositions. Some pieces are on the ambient side, some
use spoken word in a beautiful way, others are freakin' heavy, like the last
tune by David Lang (of Bang on a Can) appropriately called "Killer" - using
what strikes my uninformed ears as a granular-sampled violin, triggered and
re-triggered, to create something akin to a one-fiddle Meshuggah.

Dig!

http://innova.mu/artist1.asp?skuID=449

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com

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<div>I&#39;ve been notably absent from list-land, I know...as always, enjoy=
ing the conversations. I just wanted to give a shout-out here to Todd Reyno=
lds&#39; &quot;Outerborough&quot;, which I don&#39;t believe has really bee=
n chatted up here. It&#39;s a double album, half of his own compositions, h=
alf from other people, and (mostly? all?) recorded in his bedroom, as brief=
ly noted a month or two ago (and it sounds great, too).</div>
<div><br></div><div>It&#39;s *stunning*. Not what you would call an over-al=
l &quot;loop&quot; record, but there is certainly much use of looping and s=
ampling and processing, live and otherwise. Really interesting sounds in th=
e service of really great, soulful, exploratory compositions. Some pieces a=
re on the ambient side, some use spoken word in a beautiful way, others are=
 freakin&#39; heavy, like the last tune by David Lang (of Bang on a Can) ap=
propriately called &quot;Killer&quot; - using what strikes my uninformed ea=
rs as a granular-sampled violin, triggered and re-triggered, to create some=
thing akin to a one-fiddle Meshuggah.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Dig!</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://innova.=
mu/artist1.asp?skuID=3D449">http://innova.mu/artist1.asp?skuID=3D449</a></d=
iv><div><br></div>Daryl Shawn<div><a href=3D"http://www.swanwelder.com">www=
.swanwelder.com</a></div>
<br>

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Almost there... almost there... 

www.reyn.net/studio

Cheers,

Reyn

www.reyn.net

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Man!  That is a beautiful facility!  Just amazing. 

You are inviting the whole list to come record their projects when?  :)

Daniel

On May 5, 2011, at 8:46 AM, Reyn Ouwehand wrote:

> Almost there... almost there... 
> 
> www.reyn.net/studio
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Reyn
> 
> www.reyn.net
> 

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reyn, this is simply unreal to see the progress and the results so far.

Many many congratulations! It's what so many of us dream of, and in a
church.. so perfect.


Todd



On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Reyn Ouwehand <loopers-delight@reyn.net>wro=
te:

> Almost there... almost there...
>
> www.reyn.net/studio
>
> Cheers,
>
> Reyn
>
> www.reyn.net
>
>


--=20
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
=95 Currently in London with Bang on a Can and Eighth Blackbird, playing mu=
sic
of Steve Reich
=95 May 24th at The Guggenheim Museum, May 25th at The Stone, NYC
=95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever
music is sold. You can check out the INNOVA Recordings Artist Page here:

http://innova.mu/artist1.asp?skuID=3D449

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
http://toddreynolds.com
http://twitter.com/digifiddler
http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic
http://blog.toddreynolds.com
http://facebook.com/toddreynolds
http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds

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reyn, this is simply unreal to see the progress and the results so far.=A0<=
div><br></div><div>Many many congratulations! It&#39;s what so many of us d=
ream of, and in a church.. so perfect.=A0</div><div><br></div><div><br></di=
v>

<div>Todd</div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Th=
u, May 5, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Reyn Ouwehand <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:loopers-delight@reyn.net">loopers-delight@reyn.net</a>&gt;</span> wro=
te:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Almost there... almost there...<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.reyn.net/studio" target=3D"_blank">www.reyn.net/studi=
o</a><br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Reyn<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.reyn.net" target=3D"_blank">www.reyn.net</a><br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D<br>=95 Currently in London with Bang on a Can and Eighth Black=
bird, playing music of Steve Reich<div>=95 May 24th at The Guggenheim Museu=
m, May 25th at The Stone, NYC<br>

<div>=95=A0Outerborough, Todd Reynolds&#39; solo double CD is now available=
 wherever music is sold. You can check out the INNOVA Recordings Artist Pag=
e here:<div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://innova.mu/artist1.asp?sku=
ID=3D449" target=3D"_blank">http://innova.mu/artist1.asp?skuID=3D449</a><br=
>

<div><div><br>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D<br><a href=3D"http://toddreynolds.com" target=3D"_blank">http:=
//toddreynolds.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://twitter.com/digifiddler" target=
=3D"_blank">http://twitter.com/digifiddler</a><br><a href=3D"http://myspace=
.com/toddreynoldsmusic" target=3D"_blank">http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmu=
sic</a><br>

<a href=3D"http://blog.toddreynolds.com" target=3D"_blank">http://blog.todd=
reynolds.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://facebook.com/toddreynolds" target=3D"=
_blank">http://facebook.com/toddreynolds</a><br><a href=3D"http://reverbnat=
ion.com/toddreynolds" target=3D"_blank">http://reverbnation.com/toddreynold=
s</a><br>

</div></div></div></div></div></div><br>
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That's one serious studio!  Gorgeous and I'm sure from experience that 
you're looking forward not just to the completion, but the workmen being out 
of your life.  The end of the sonic tunnel's in sight!  Well done.

-----Original Message----- 
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Almost there... almost there...

www.reyn.net/studio

Cheers,

Reyn

www.reyn.net 

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Wow, that's a nice place to record some music !

Hope to see some VS looping videos from your old/new place when the =
transformation is over :).

Cheers,

Rapha=EBl

Le 5 mai 2011 =E0 17:46, Reyn Ouwehand a =E9crit :

> Almost there... almost there...=20
>=20
> www.reyn.net/studio
>=20
> Cheers,
>=20
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> www.reyn.net
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JESUS H CHRIST....
I mean... O M G..
OH NO!! Ummm
GOD!
Why cant I stop blasphemin...
OK:. pull youself together Mark...

Fucking Hell Reyn... simply wonderful... Renovating old and historic
buildings is important and necessary, even if the expense is not
financially always sensible, (an I should know, I live in a house from
1792)  spiritually and ethically it is important for us to live in a
world that reveres and honours the past. I applaud you in this. A
master musician and a master builder.. man, your mum must be proud!

Mark



On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Rapha=EBl - Mancing Dolecules
<raphael@mancingdolecules.com> wrote:
> Wow, that's a nice place to record some music !
>
> Hope to see some VS looping videos from your old/new place when the trans=
formation is over :).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rapha=EBl
>
> Le 5 mai 2011 =E0 17:46, Reyn Ouwehand a =E9crit :
>
>> Almost there... almost there...
>>
>> www.reyn.net/studio
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Reyn
>>
>> www.reyn.net
>>
>
>



--=20
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
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I'm gonna start saving now for a day of tracking at Church Reyn.

On May 5, 2011, at 2:38 PM, mark francombe wrote:

> JESUS H CHRIST....
> I mean... O M G..
> OH NO!! Ummm
> GOD!
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> OK:. pull youself together Mark...
> 
> Fucking Hell Reyn... simply wonderful... Renovating old and historic
> buildings is important and necessary, even if the expense is not
> financially always sensible, (an I should know, I live in a house from
> 1792)  spiritually and ethically it is important for us to live in a
> world that reveres and honours the past. I applaud you in this. A
> master musician and a master builder.. man, your mum must be proud!
> 
> Mark
> 
> 

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toddbass.com
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For those who, like me, are anxiously awaiting the arrival of the sidecar
for the Boomerang III, Mike Nelson informed me earlier this week that they
are about 6 weeks away from release. 

 

According to Mike:

 

"The chassis, circuit boards, graphic overlays, most miscellaneous parts and
packaging are ready, but the software and manual aren't complete. Primarily
we need to test the heck out of the software and squash any bugs that poke
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Anyone know what it will cost? It looks like a nice add-on for the 'rang II=
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--- On Thu, 5/5/11, Hoby Ebert <list2@moondogeast.org> wrote:

From: Hoby Ebert <list2@moondogeast.org>
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=20
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For
those who, like me, are anxiously awaiting the arrival of the sidecar for t=
he
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According
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=E2=80=9CThe chassis, circuit
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a nice add-on for the 'rang III. <br><br>--- On <b>Thu, 5/5/11, Hoby Ebert =
<i>&lt;list2@moondogeast.org&gt;</i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style=3D"bor=
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I'm looking to replace my EDP's with a software looper.  I do rhythm based
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low.  I have a macbook 13" 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, but I'd be willing to get
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*So, my question: should I start learning ableton? * Ableton has a looper,
but should I use Mobius inside Ableton? I want to be able to have an
arrangement, but also trigger different clips (improvised section), but also
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Mobius inside of Ableton. I tried hard to get Abletons looper to work =
for me but I couldn't.....but it could just be me. Ableton has great =
integrated tutorials. I still as of today can't  do looping and effects =
with a Macbook Pro i7, Fireface UC on OSX. I have to boot the machine =
into Win7 that is tweaked out to not have random loud audio glitches. =
I've been troubleshooting the thing for a year awaiting the day I don't =
have to use Bootcamp. (Yes this is at 128 sample buffer) Every time an =
audio glitch happens(sounds like a synthy/bit reduction type sound for a =
few seconds) I can go into Console and see the message where there was a =
buffer underun.=20

Although this is just my experience..... as Mr. Reynolds and Zoe both =
use Macbook pros with Ableton and it seems like they tour with it no =
prob. Maybe its the dual i7 cpu in the 2010 MBP? Who knows. I'd love to =
a glitch free system going in OSX. I never use over 20 percent of the =
cpu. Tim Exile has talked in forums about his trouble using a 2010 mbp =
for live use. He was able to fix it by disabling hyperthreading and 1 =
cpu! I tired it but that solution didnt work for me.

Maybe the new 4 core i7 MBP's dont have the core audio glitches?=20

My vote is if your good with computers is to build a windows box. That =
way if you run into issues you have much more control over the OS and =
don't have to sit around and wait, hoping that Apple will fix your =
issue.
On May 5, 2011, at 9:19 PM, ^|>^m wrote:

> I'm looking to replace my EDP's with a software looper.  I do rhythm =
based looping with arranged canned beats and midi syncing so latency =
must be very low.  I have a macbook 13" 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, but I'd =
be willing to get a macbook pro, or even build a windows box.
>=20
> So, my question: should I start learning ableton?  Ableton has a =
looper, but should I use Mobius inside Ableton? I want to be able to =
have an arrangement, but also trigger different clips (improvised =
section), but also record loops with bass, guitar, aux percussion, and =
incorporate those too.
>=20
> Thank you looping community,
> Adam

Todd Matthews
toddbass.com
twitter: gtodd876


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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; =
">Mobius inside of Ableton. I tried hard to get Abletons looper to work =
for me but I couldn't.....but it could just be me. Ableton has great =
integrated tutorials. I still as of today can't &nbsp;do looping and =
effects with a Macbook Pro i7, Fireface UC on OSX. I have to boot the =
machine into Win7 that is tweaked out to not have random loud audio =
glitches. I've been troubleshooting the thing for a year awaiting the =
day I don't have to use Bootcamp. (Yes this is at 128 sample buffer) =
Every time an audio glitch happens(sounds like a synthy/bit reduction =
type sound for a few seconds) I can go into Console and see the message =
where there was a buffer underun.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Although this =
is just my experience..... as Mr. Reynolds and Zoe both use Macbook pros =
with Ableton and it seems like they tour with it no prob. Maybe its the =
dual i7 cpu in the 2010 MBP? Who knows. I'd love to a glitch free system =
going in OSX. I never use over 20 percent of the cpu. Tim Exile has =
talked in forums about his trouble using a 2010 mbp for live use. He was =
able to fix it by disabling hyperthreading and 1 cpu! I tired it but =
that solution didnt work for me.<div><br></div><div>Maybe the new 4 core =
i7 MBP's dont have the core audio =
glitches?&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>My vote is if your good with =
computers is to build a windows box. That way if you run into issues you =
have much more control over the OS and don't have to sit around and =
wait, hoping that Apple will fix your issue.<br><div><div><div>On May 5, =
2011, at 9:19 PM, ^|&gt;^m wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><font =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" size=3D"4">I'm looking to replace my EDP's =
with a software looper. &nbsp;I do&nbsp;rhythm&nbsp;based looping =
with&nbsp;arranged&nbsp;canned beats and midi syncing so latency must be =
very low. &nbsp;I have a macbook 13" 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, but I'd be =
willing to get a macbook pro, or even build a windows box.</font><div>
<font class=3D"Apple-style-span" size=3D"4"><br></font></div><div><font =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" size=3D"4"><b>So, my question: should I start =
learning ableton? </b>&nbsp;Ableton has a looper, but should I use =
Mobius inside Ableton? I want to be able to have an arrangement, but =
also trigger different clips (improvised section), but also record loops =
with bass, guitar, aux percussion, and incorporate those =
too.</font></div>
<div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
size=3D"4"><br></font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
size=3D"4">Thank you looping community,</font></div><div><font =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" size=3D"4">Adam</font></div>
</blockquote></div><br><div>
<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; =
color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; =
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0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div>Todd =
Matthews</div><div><div><a =
href=3D"http://toddbass.com">toddbass.com</a></div><div>twitter: =
gtodd876</div></div></span>
</div>
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I've been using an RC-50 + a drum machine for my loop playback.  I'm thinking of selling the RC and using my MacBook and SuperLooper + midi foot control as a replacement.  The RC-50 is a pain in the ass and I also need some $$.  It would be nice to have an easier live looping rig.

Any advice or warnings on how this might work/fail?  

It's a 13" Intel MacBook 1.83 core 2 duo


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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I've been using an RC-50 + a drum machine for my 
loop playback.&nbsp; I'm thinking of selling the RC and using my MacBook and 
SuperLooper + midi foot control as a replacement.&nbsp; The RC-50 is a pain in 
the ass and I also need some $$.&nbsp; It would be nice to have an easier live 
looping rig.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Any advice or warnings on how this might 
work/fail?&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>It's a 13" Intel MacBook 1.83 core 2 
duo</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>toby</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Dear Reyn, do you need a chef?
  just checking
  Bill

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Oh my goodness.

Thatis a beautiful thin Reyn


On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Reyn Ouwehand wrote:

> Almost there... almost there...
> www.reyn.net/studio
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> Cheers,
>
> Reyn
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Maybe an LP1 would be a possible solution.  I have heard good things.

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Maybe an LP1 would be a possible solution. =A0I have heard good things.

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Hello Loopers,
just to let you know. Our little "Klangwellen-Loopfestival" will be =
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Christo
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That's definitely the plan Rapha=EBl. Now finally I can make some new =
video's again inside the church. Haven't been able to do that for over a =
year. And now I can also use all the instruments from my old studio as =
well. The studio is already fully booked so I really need to find the =
time to do it and to find some ideas, but its def in the pipeline.

Cheers,

Reyn

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On May 5, 2011, at 7:08 PM, Rapha=EBl - Mancing Dolecules wrote:

> Wow, that's a nice place to record some music !
>=20
> Hope to see some VS looping videos from your old/new place when the =
transformation is over :).
>=20
> Cheers,
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> Rapha=EBl
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> Le 5 mai 2011 =E0 17:46, Reyn Ouwehand a =E9crit :
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>> Almost there... almost there...=20
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>> Cheers,
>>=20
>> Reyn
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Hey Mark,

Thanks for this. That really means a lot. 'Cause yes, the place was in a =
bad shape en it is not sensible to do financially, 'cause most of the =
(non-acoustic) investments I did does make the church worth more but =
since it's a 'strange' building and not the same as your neighbours =
house it's really hard to predict what the value is. Nobody can really =
put their finger on what it's worth.=20

But still it feels to me this is the best investment I did in my life. =
People are really/still in line to record here. I can still say NO to =
projects that I don't want to do and really, it's what I wanted for a =
long time: A bigger studio where I live too. Also the surroundings are =
very inspiring. It's a state monument which made it a bit harder on the =
permit side, but not everything can be easy. And I didn't do anything =
with taking too much risk financially. I build this thing up step by =
step. Same as with my career.

And it's so good to see this building, which was in a really bad shape, =
getting alive again by my doings... Means a lot to me and to the =
community here.

And yes, my mum is proud! :-)

Cheers,

Reyn

www.reyn.net

On May 5, 2011, at 8:38 PM, mark francombe wrote:

> JESUS H CHRIST....
> I mean... O M G..
> OH NO!! Ummm
> GOD!
> Why cant I stop blasphemin...
> OK:. pull youself together Mark...
>=20
> Fucking Hell Reyn... simply wonderful... Renovating old and historic
> buildings is important and necessary, even if the expense is not
> financially always sensible, (an I should know, I live in a house from
> 1792)  spiritually and ethically it is important for us to live in a
> world that reveres and honours the past. I applaud you in this. A
> master musician and a master builder.. man, your mum must be proud!
>=20
> Mark
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Rapha=EBl - Mancing Dolecules
> <raphael@mancingdolecules.com> wrote:
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>>=20
>> Hope to see some VS looping videos from your old/new place when the =
transformation is over :).
>>=20
>> Cheers,
>>=20
>> Rapha=EBl
>>=20
>> Le 5 mai 2011 =E0 17:46, Reyn Ouwehand a =E9crit :
>>=20
>>> Almost there... almost there...
>>>=20
>>> www.reyn.net/studio
>>>=20
>>> Cheers,
>>>=20
>>> Reyn
>>>=20
>>> www.reyn.net
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>=20
> --=20
> Mark Francombe
> www.markfrancombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no
> twitter @markfrancombe
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Actually.. yes! :-)

On May 6, 2011, at 6:19 AM, William Walker wrote:

> Dear Reyn, do you need a chef?
> just checking
> Bill
> 

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Mr. Matthews,

I can't speak for Zoe, but I have to tell you, i've recently had four shows
disturbed by audio glitches, and I can't seem to fix it whatsoever.  I wish
I knew how to go into the console and find the errors so I could yell at
Apple more effectively.  This i the first computer, and it's new, that I've
EVER had this problem and it is seriously messing with my scene.  I think w=
e
need to talk further about this.  I'm about to go a little bit bonky with
this serious liability in my performance scenarios.  Thanks for bringing
this up once again.  I'm beginning to think it's indeed in my mac, after
having isolated everything else.

Bests,

T.


On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:40 AM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote:

> Mobius inside of Ableton. I tried hard to get Abletons looper to work for
> me but I couldn't.....but it could just be me. Ableton has great integrat=
ed
> tutorials. I still as of today can't  do looping and effects with a Macbo=
ok
> Pro i7, Fireface UC on OSX. I have to boot the machine into Win7 that is
> tweaked out to not have random loud audio glitches. I've been
> troubleshooting the thing for a year awaiting the day I don't have to use
> Bootcamp. (Yes this is at 128 sample buffer) Every time an audio glitch
> happens(sounds like a synthy/bit reduction type sound for a few seconds) =
I
> can go into Console and see the message where there was a buffer underun.
>
> Although this is just my experience..... as Mr. Reynolds and Zoe both use
> Macbook pros with Ableton and it seems like they tour with it no prob. Ma=
ybe
> its the dual i7 cpu in the 2010 MBP? Who knows. I'd love to a glitch free
> system going in OSX. I never use over 20 percent of the cpu. Tim Exile ha=
s
> talked in forums about his trouble using a 2010 mbp for live use. He was
> able to fix it by disabling hyperthreading and 1 cpu! I tired it but that
> solution didnt work for me.
>
> Maybe the new 4 core i7 MBP's dont have the core audio glitches?
>
> My vote is if your good with computers is to build a windows box. That wa=
y
> if you run into issues you have much more control over the OS and don't h=
ave
> to sit around and wait, hoping that Apple will fix your issue.
> On May 5, 2011, at 9:19 PM, ^|>^m wrote:
>
> I'm looking to replace my EDP's with a software looper.  I do rhythm base=
d
> looping with arranged canned beats and midi syncing so latency must be ve=
ry
> low.  I have a macbook 13" 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, but I'd be willing to =
get
> a macbook pro, or even build a windows box.
>
> *So, my question: should I start learning ableton? * Ableton has a looper=
,
> but should I use Mobius inside Ableton? I want to be able to have an
> arrangement, but also trigger different clips (improvised section), but a=
lso
> record loops with bass, guitar, aux percussion, and incorporate those too=
.
>
> Thank you looping community,
> Adam
>
>
>  Todd Matthews
> toddbass.com
> twitter: gtodd876
>
>


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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
=95 Currently in London with Bang on a Can and Eighth Blackbird, playing mu=
sic
of Steve Reich
=95 May 24th at The Guggenheim Museum, May 25th at The Stone, NYC
=95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever
music is sold. You can check out the INNOVA Recordings Artist Page here:

http://innova.mu/artist1.asp?skuID=3D449

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
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http://twitter.com/digifiddler
http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic
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Mr. Matthews,=A0<div><br></div><div>I can&#39;t speak for Zoe, but I have t=
o tell you, i&#39;ve recently had four shows disturbed by audio glitches, a=
nd I can&#39;t seem to fix it whatsoever. =A0I wish I knew how to go into t=
he console and find the errors so I could yell at Apple more effectively. =
=A0This i the first computer, and it&#39;s new, that I&#39;ve EVER had this=
 problem and it is seriously messing with my scene. =A0I think we need to t=
alk further about this. =A0I&#39;m about to go a little bit bonky with this=
 serious liability in my performance scenarios. =A0Thanks for bringing this=
 up once again. =A0I&#39;m beginning to think it&#39;s indeed in my mac, af=
ter having isolated everything else. =A0</div>

<div><br></div><div>Bests,=A0</div><div><br></div><div>T.</div><div><br><br=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:40 AM, Todd Matthews <=
span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gtmatthews@gmail.com">gtmatthews@gma=
il.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">Mobius =
inside of Ableton. I tried hard to get Abletons looper to work for me but I=
 couldn&#39;t.....but it could just be me. Ableton has great integrated tut=
orials. I still as of today can&#39;t =A0do looping and effects with a Macb=
ook Pro i7, Fireface UC on OSX. I have to boot the machine into Win7 that i=
s tweaked out to not have random loud audio glitches. I&#39;ve been trouble=
shooting the thing for a year awaiting the day I don&#39;t have to use Boot=
camp. (Yes this is at 128 sample buffer) Every time an audio glitch happens=
(sounds like a synthy/bit reduction type sound for a few seconds) I can go =
into Console and see the message where there was a buffer underun.=A0<div>

<br></div><div>Although this is just my experience..... as Mr. Reynolds and=
 Zoe both use Macbook pros with Ableton and it seems like they tour with it=
 no prob. Maybe its the dual i7 cpu in the 2010 MBP? Who knows. I&#39;d lov=
e to a glitch free system going in OSX. I never use over 20 percent of the =
cpu. Tim Exile has talked in forums about his trouble using a 2010 mbp for =
live use. He was able to fix it by disabling hyperthreading and 1 cpu! I ti=
red it but that solution didnt work for me.<div>

<br></div><div>Maybe the new 4 core i7 MBP&#39;s dont have the core audio g=
litches?=A0</div><div><br></div><div>My vote is if your good with computers=
 is to build a windows box. That way if you run into issues you have much m=
ore control over the OS and don&#39;t have to sit around and wait, hoping t=
hat Apple will fix your issue.<br>

<div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><div><div>On May 5, 2011, at 9:19 PM=
, ^|&gt;^m wrote:</div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><font size=3D"4">I&#39=
;m looking to replace my EDP&#39;s with a software looper. =A0I do=A0rhythm=
=A0based looping with=A0arranged=A0canned beats and midi syncing so latency=
 must be very low. =A0I have a macbook 13&quot; 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, but=
 I&#39;d be willing to get a macbook pro, or even build a windows box.</fon=
t><div>


<font size=3D"4"><br></font></div><div><font size=3D"4"><b>So, my question:=
 should I start learning ableton? </b>=A0Ableton has a looper, but should I=
 use Mobius inside Ableton? I want to be able to have an arrangement, but a=
lso trigger different clips (improvised section), but also record loops wit=
h bass, guitar, aux percussion, and incorporate those too.</font></div>


<div><font size=3D"4"><br></font></div><div><font size=3D"4">Thank you loop=
ing community,</font></div><div><font size=3D"4">Adam</font></div>
</blockquote></div><br></div></div><font color=3D"#888888"><div>
<span style=3D"border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helv=
etica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spaci=
ng:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform=
:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;font-size:medium"><div>

Todd Matthews</div><div><div><a href=3D"http://toddbass.com" target=3D"_bla=
nk">toddbass.com</a></div><div>twitter: gtodd876</div></div></span>
</div>
<br></font></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"=
><br>-- <br>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br>=95 Currently in London wi=
th Bang on a Can and Eighth Blackbird, playing music of Steve Reich<div>

=95 May 24th at The Guggenheim Museum, May 25th at The Stone, NYC<br><div>=
=95=A0Outerborough, Todd Reynolds&#39; solo double CD is now available wher=
ever music is sold. You can check out the INNOVA Recordings Artist Page her=
e:<div>

<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://innova.mu/artist1.asp?skuID=3D449" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">http://innova.mu/artist1.asp?skuID=3D449</a><br><div><div><=
br>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
<br><a href=3D"http://toddreynolds.com" target=3D"_blank">http://toddreynol=
ds.com</a><br>

<a href=3D"http://twitter.com/digifiddler" target=3D"_blank">http://twitter=
.com/digifiddler</a><br><a href=3D"http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http=
://blog.toddreynolds.com" target=3D"_blank">http://blog.toddreynolds.com</a=
><br>

<a href=3D"http://facebook.com/toddreynolds" target=3D"_blank">http://faceb=
ook.com/toddreynolds</a><br><a href=3D"http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds=
" target=3D"_blank">http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds</a><br></div></div=
></div>

</div></div></div><br>
</div>

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Hit up the Genius Bar at the Apple store.  You paid good money for that =
thing, pester them until they help you.  It's their job.

toby
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: todd reynolds=20
  To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
  Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 4:30 AM
  Subject: Re: A looping fork in the road. Which way do I go?


  Mr. Matthews,=20


  I can't speak for Zoe, but I have to tell you, i've recently had four =
shows disturbed by audio glitches, and I can't seem to fix it =
whatsoever.  I wish I knew how to go into the console and find the =
errors so I could yell at Apple more effectively.  This i the first =
computer, and it's new, that I've EVER had this problem and it is =
seriously messing with my scene.  I think we need to talk further about =
this.  I'm about to go a little bit bonky with this serious liability in =
my performance scenarios.  Thanks for bringing this up once again.  I'm =
beginning to think it's indeed in my mac, after having isolated =
everything else. =20


  Bests,=20


  T.



  On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:40 AM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> =
wrote:

    Mobius inside of Ableton. I tried hard to get Abletons looper to =
work for me but I couldn't.....but it could just be me. Ableton has =
great integrated tutorials. I still as of today can't  do looping and =
effects with a Macbook Pro i7, Fireface UC on OSX. I have to boot the =
machine into Win7 that is tweaked out to not have random loud audio =
glitches. I've been troubleshooting the thing for a year awaiting the =
day I don't have to use Bootcamp. (Yes this is at 128 sample buffer) =
Every time an audio glitch happens(sounds like a synthy/bit reduction =
type sound for a few seconds) I can go into Console and see the message =
where there was a buffer underun.=20


    Although this is just my experience..... as Mr. Reynolds and Zoe =
both use Macbook pros with Ableton and it seems like they tour with it =
no prob. Maybe its the dual i7 cpu in the 2010 MBP? Who knows. I'd love =
to a glitch free system going in OSX. I never use over 20 percent of the =
cpu. Tim Exile has talked in forums about his trouble using a 2010 mbp =
for live use. He was able to fix it by disabling hyperthreading and 1 =
cpu! I tired it but that solution didnt work for me.


    Maybe the new 4 core i7 MBP's dont have the core audio glitches?=20


    My vote is if your good with computers is to build a windows box. =
That way if you run into issues you have much more control over the OS =
and don't have to sit around and wait, hoping that Apple will fix your =
issue.

    On May 5, 2011, at 9:19 PM, ^|>^m wrote:


      I'm looking to replace my EDP's with a software looper.  I do =
rhythm based looping with arranged canned beats and midi syncing so =
latency must be very low.  I have a macbook 13" 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, =
but I'd be willing to get a macbook pro, or even build a windows box.


      So, my question: should I start learning ableton?  Ableton has a =
looper, but should I use Mobius inside Ableton? I want to be able to =
have an arrangement, but also trigger different clips (improvised =
section), but also record loops with bass, guitar, aux percussion, and =
incorporate those too.


      Thank you looping community,
      Adam


    Todd Matthews
    toddbass.com
    twitter: gtodd876





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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
  =95 Currently in London with Bang on a Can and Eighth Blackbird, =
playing music of Steve Reich
  =95 May 24th at The Guggenheim Museum, May 25th at The Stone, NYC

  =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available =
wherever music is sold. You can check out the INNOVA Recordings Artist =
Page here:


  http://innova.mu/artist1.asp?skuID=3D449


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  http://twitter.com/digifiddler
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  title=3DLoopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loope=
rs-delight.com</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 06, 2011 4:30 =
AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: A looping fork in =
the road.=20
  Which way do I go?</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Mr. Matthews,&nbsp;
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>I can't speak for Zoe, but I have to tell you, i've recently had =
four=20
  shows disturbed by audio glitches, and I can't seem to fix it =
whatsoever.=20
  &nbsp;I wish I knew how to go into the console and find the errors so =
I could=20
  yell at Apple more effectively. &nbsp;This i the first computer, and =
it's new,=20
  that I've EVER had this problem and it is seriously messing with my =
scene.=20
  &nbsp;I think we need to talk further about this. &nbsp;I'm about to =
go a=20
  little bit bonky with this serious liability in my performance =
scenarios.=20
  &nbsp;Thanks for bringing this up once again. &nbsp;I'm beginning to =
think=20
  it's indeed in my mac, after having isolated everything else. =
&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Bests,&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>T.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR><BR>
  <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:40 AM, Todd Matthews =
<SPAN=20
  dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:gtmatthews@gmail.com">gtmatthews@gmail.com</A>&gt;</SPAN> =

  wrote:<BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE=20
  style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; =
PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"=20
  class=3Dgmail_quote>
    <DIV style=3D"WORD-WRAP: break-word">Mobius inside of Ableton. I =
tried hard to=20
    get Abletons looper to work for me but I couldn't.....but it could =
just be=20
    me. Ableton has great integrated tutorials. I still as of today =
can't=20
    &nbsp;do looping and effects with a Macbook Pro i7, Fireface UC on =
OSX. I=20
    have to boot the machine into Win7 that is tweaked out to not have =
random=20
    loud audio glitches. I've been troubleshooting the thing for a year =
awaiting=20
    the day I don't have to use Bootcamp. (Yes this is at 128 sample =
buffer)=20
    Every time an audio glitch happens(sounds like a synthy/bit =
reduction type=20
    sound for a few seconds) I can go into Console and see the message =
where=20
    there was a buffer underun.&nbsp;
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>Although this is just my experience..... as Mr. Reynolds and =
Zoe both=20
    use Macbook pros with Ableton and it seems like they tour with it no =
prob.=20
    Maybe its the dual i7 cpu in the 2010 MBP? Who knows. I'd love to a =
glitch=20
    free system going in OSX. I never use over 20 percent of the cpu. =
Tim Exile=20
    has talked in forums about his trouble using a 2010 mbp for live =
use. He was=20
    able to fix it by disabling hyperthreading and 1 cpu! I tired it but =
that=20
    solution didnt work for me.
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>Maybe the new 4 core i7 MBP's dont have the core audio=20
    glitches?&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>My vote is if your good with computers is to build a windows =
box. That=20
    way if you run into issues you have much more control over the OS =
and don't=20
    have to sit around and wait, hoping that Apple will fix your =
issue.<BR>
    <DIV>
    <DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV class=3Dh5>
    <DIV>
    <DIV>On May 5, 2011, at 9:19 PM, ^|&gt;^m wrote:</DIV><BR>
    <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><FONT size=3D4>I'm looking to replace my =
EDP's with=20
      a software looper. &nbsp;I do&nbsp;rhythm&nbsp;based looping=20
      with&nbsp;arranged&nbsp;canned beats and midi syncing so latency =
must be=20
      very low. &nbsp;I have a macbook 13" 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, but =
I'd be=20
      willing to get a macbook pro, or even build a windows box.</FONT>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D4><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D4><B>So, my question: should I start learning =
ableton?=20
      </B>&nbsp;Ableton has a looper, but should I use Mobius inside =
Ableton? I=20
      want to be able to have an arrangement, but also trigger different =
clips=20
      (improvised section), but also record loops with bass, guitar, aux =

      percussion, and incorporate those too.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D4><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D4>Thank you looping community,</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT =
size=3D4>Adam</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></DIV><FONT=20
    color=3D#888888>
    <DIV><SPAN=20
    style=3D"TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; BORDER-COLLAPSE: =
separate; FONT: medium Helvetica; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: =
normal; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); WORD-SPACING: 0px">
    <DIV>Todd Matthews</DIV>
    <DIV>
    <DIV><A href=3D"http://toddbass.com" =
target=3D_blank>toddbass.com</A></DIV>
    <DIV>twitter:=20
    =
gtodd876</DIV></DIV></SPAN></DIV><BR></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLO=
CKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR=20
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<BR>=95 Currently in=20
  London with Bang on a Can and Eighth Blackbird, playing music of Steve =
Reich
  <DIV>=95 May 24th at The Guggenheim Museum, May 25th at The Stone, =
NYC<BR>
  <DIV>=95&nbsp;Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now =
available=20
  wherever music is sold. You can check out the INNOVA Recordings Artist =
Page=20
  here:
  <DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><A href=3D"http://innova.mu/artist1.asp?skuID=3D449"=20
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> Have you played of Danna and Clement, the brilliant Canadian looping 
> duo?  Would love to hear something form /_North of 
> Niagara_,_Summerland_, _A Gradual Awakening_/, or /_The Best of D&C_/  .
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Next time it happens open console and search for this:

IOAudioStream


You'll probably find some messages like this:

5/4/11 6:21:47 AM	kernel	=
OAudioStream[0xbaef300]::clipIfNecessary() - adjusting clipped position =
to (c075,fd9)
5/4/11 6:21:47 AM	kernel	=
IOAudioStream[0xbaf1d00]::clipIfNecessary() - Error: attempting to clip =
to a position more than one buffer ahead of last clip position =
(c073,fd9)->(c076,7e9).
5/4/11 6:21:47 AM	kernel	=
IOAudioStream[0xbaf1d00]::clipIfNecessary() - adjusting clipped position =
to (c075,fd9)=20


Apple will likely blame it on your 3rd party plug-ins like they did to =
me.(Sooperlooper or Mobius) Yet I can use the plugs-ins without problems =
on the same hardware running Win7 instead of OSX. The first 6 months I =
went to the genius bar, and those guys don't really understand the whole =
doing live music on your computer thing so you dont get very =
far.......I've had them send me new install disks, even a whole new =
laptop. Now I have the email address of a guy high up in support, from =
all the toubleshooting I've done with apple and everytime I have these =
glitches I copy and paste the text from Console. Then I ask for him to =
pass that info to the engineers that work on Core audio/Logic/Mainstage =
etc.=20

I have a show tonight with nude models present providing visual as well =
as audio obstacles to the looping. I wonder what will derail me first. =
An audio glitch or boob. I guess I'll be fine if I just keep staring at =
my shoes while I play.

On May 6, 2011, at 7:30 AM, todd reynolds wrote:

> Mr. Matthews,=20
>=20
> I can't speak for Zoe, but I have to tell you, i've recently had four =
shows disturbed by audio glitches, and I can't seem to fix it =
whatsoever.  I wish I knew how to go into the console and find the =
errors so I could yell at Apple more effectively.  This i the first =
computer, and it's new, that I've EVER had this problem and it is =
seriously messing with my scene.  I think we need to talk further about =
this.  I'm about to go a little bit bonky with this serious liability in =
my performance scenarios.  Thanks for bringing this up once again.  I'm =
beginning to think it's indeed in my mac, after having isolated =
everything else. =20
>=20
> Bests,=20
>=20
> T.
>=20


Todd Matthews
toddbass.com
twitter: gtodd876

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What time is the show and where? pant,..pant...

--- On Fri, 5/6/11, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote:


From: Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: A looping fork in the road. Which way do I go?
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Friday, May 6, 2011, 9:13 AM


Next time it happens open console and search for this:

IOAudioStream


You'll probably find some messages like this:

5/4/11 6:21:47 AM=A0=A0=A0 kernel=A0=A0=A0 OAudioStream[0xbaef300]::clipIfN=
ecessary() - adjusting clipped position to (c075,fd9)
5/4/11 6:21:47 AM=A0=A0=A0 kernel=A0=A0=A0 IOAudioStream[0xbaf1d00]::clipIf=
Necessary() - Error: attempting to clip to a position more than one buffer =
ahead of last clip position (c073,fd9)->(c076,7e9).
5/4/11 6:21:47 AM=A0=A0=A0 kernel=A0=A0=A0 IOAudioStream[0xbaf1d00]::clipIf=
Necessary() - adjusting clipped position to (c075,fd9)=20


Apple will likely blame it on your 3rd party plug-ins like they did to me.(=
Sooperlooper or Mobius) Yet I can use the plugs-ins without problems on the=
 same hardware running Win7 instead of OSX. The first 6 months I went to th=
e genius bar, and those guys don't really understand the whole doing live m=
usic on your computer thing so you dont get very far.......I've had them se=
nd me new install disks, even a whole new laptop. Now I have the email addr=
ess of a guy high up in support, from all the toubleshooting I've done with=
 apple and everytime I have these glitches I copy and paste the text from C=
onsole. Then I ask for him to pass that info to the engineers that work on =
Core audio/Logic/Mainstage etc.=20

I have a show tonight with nude models present providing visual as well as =
audio obstacles to the looping. I wonder what will derail me first. An audi=
o glitch or boob. I guess I'll be fine if I just keep staring at my shoes w=
hile I play.

On May 6, 2011, at 7:30 AM, todd reynolds wrote:

> Mr. Matthews,=20
>=20
> I can't speak for Zoe, but I have to tell you, i've recently had four sho=
ws disturbed by audio glitches, and I can't seem to fix it whatsoever.=A0 I=
 wish I knew how to go into the console and find the errors so I could yell=
 at Apple more effectively.=A0 This i the first computer, and it's new, tha=
t I've EVER had this problem and it is seriously messing with my scene.=A0 =
I think we need to talk further about this.=A0 I'm about to go a little bit=
 bonky with this serious liability in my performance scenarios.=A0 Thanks f=
or bringing this up once again.=A0 I'm beginning to think it's indeed in my=
 mac, after having isolated everything else.=A0=20
>=20
> Bests,=20
>=20
> T.
>=20


Todd Matthews
toddbass.com
twitter: gtodd876


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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"=
top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>What time is the show and where? pant,..=
pant...</DIV>
<DIV><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 5/6/11, Todd Matthews <I>&lt;gtmatthews@gmail.com&g=
t;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5=
px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Todd Matthews &lt;gtmatthews@gmail.com&gt;<=
BR>Subject: Re: A looping fork in the road. Which way do I go?<BR>To: Loope=
rs-Delight@loopers-delight.com<BR>Date: Friday, May 6, 2011, 9:13 AM<BR><BR=
>
<DIV class=3DplainMail>Next time it happens open console and search for thi=
s:<BR><BR>IOAudioStream<BR><BR><BR>You'll probably find some messages like =
this:<BR><BR>5/4/11 6:21:47 AM&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; kernel&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; O=
AudioStream[0xbaef300]::clipIfNecessary() - adjusting clipped position to (=
c075,fd9)<BR>5/4/11 6:21:47 AM&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; kernel&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I=
OAudioStream[0xbaf1d00]::clipIfNecessary() - Error: attempting to clip to a=
 position more than one buffer ahead of last clip position (c073,fd9)-&gt;(=
c076,7e9).<BR>5/4/11 6:21:47 AM&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; kernel&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
IOAudioStream[0xbaf1d00]::clipIfNecessary() - adjusting clipped position to=
 (c075,fd9) <BR><BR><BR>Apple will likely blame it on your 3rd party plug-i=
ns like they did to me.(Sooperlooper or Mobius) Yet I can use the plugs-ins=
 without problems on the same hardware running Win7 instead of OSX. The fir=
st 6 months I went to the genius bar, and those guys don't really
 understand the whole doing live music on your computer thing so you dont g=
et very far.......I've had them send me new install disks, even a whole new=
 laptop. Now I have the email address of a guy high up in support, from all=
 the toubleshooting I've done with apple and everytime I have these glitche=
s I copy and paste the text from Console. Then I ask for him to pass that i=
nfo to the engineers that work on Core audio/Logic/Mainstage etc. <BR><BR>I=
 have a show tonight with nude models present providing visual as well as a=
udio obstacles to the looping. I wonder what will derail me first. An audio=
 glitch or boob. I guess I'll be fine if I just keep staring at my shoes wh=
ile I play.<BR><BR>On May 6, 2011, at 7:30 AM, todd reynolds wrote:<BR><BR>=
&gt; Mr. Matthews, <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I can't speak for Zoe, but I have to t=
ell you, i've recently had four shows disturbed by audio glitches, and I ca=
n't seem to fix it whatsoever.&nbsp; I wish I knew how to go into
 the console and find the errors so I could yell at Apple more effectively.=
&nbsp; This i the first computer, and it's new, that I've EVER had this pro=
blem and it is seriously messing with my scene.&nbsp; I think we need to ta=
lk further about this.&nbsp; I'm about to go a little bit bonky with this s=
erious liability in my performance scenarios.&nbsp; Thanks for bringing thi=
s up once again.&nbsp; I'm beginning to think it's indeed in my mac, after =
having isolated everything else.&nbsp; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Bests, <BR>&gt; <B=
R>&gt; T.<BR>&gt; <BR><BR><BR>Todd Matthews<BR>toddbass.com<BR>twitter: gto=
dd876<BR><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></td></tr></table>
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It really is a fantastic facility. I've been going through the Reyn
vs. series again as well.

Interesting as well that you've worked with Eva De Roovere. We almost
have the same last name and heritage!

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:12 AM, Reyn Ouwehand <loopers-delight@reyn.net> wrote:
> Actually.. yes! :-)
>
> On May 6, 2011, at 6:19 AM, William Walker wrote:
>
>> Dear Reyn, do you need a chef?
>> just checking
>> Bill
>>
>
>



-- 
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www.jeanpaulderoover.com
(807) 251-3376

Check out the brand new video for "You"!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7QnxUgGQPc

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> I build this thing up step by step. Same as with my career.

Now let that be a learnin' to us all. Its baby steps that carry us from =
from the bedroom studio to grandest recording halls.

Good on you, Reyn.  And congratulations on the thousands of good =
decisions made along the way to bring you to this place that we all find =
so inspiring!  Thanks for sharing!

Daniel Thomas=20
On May 6, 2011, at 12:11 AM,  Ouwehand wrote:

> Hey Mark,
>=20
> Thanks for this. That really means a lot. 'Cause yes, the place was in =
a bad shape en it is not sensible to do financially, 'cause most of the =
(non-acoustic) investments I did does make the church worth more but =
since it's a 'strange' building and not the same as your neighbours =
house it's really hard to predict what the value is. Nobody can really =
put their finger on what it's worth.=20
>=20
> But still it feels to me this is the best investment I did in my life. =
People are really/still in line to record here. I can still say NO to =
projects that I don't want to do and really, it's what I wanted for a =
long time: A bigger studio where I live too. Also the surroundings are =
very inspiring. It's a state monument which made it a bit harder on the =
permit side, but not everything can be easy. And I didn't do anything =
with taking too much risk financially. I build this thing up step by =
step. Same as with my career.
>=20
> And it's so good to see this building, which was in a really bad =
shape, getting alive again by my doings... Means a lot to me and to the =
community here.
>=20
> And yes, my mum is proud! :-)
>=20
> Cheers,
>=20
> Reyn
>=20
> www.reyn.net
>=20
> On May 5, 2011, at 8:38 PM, mark francombe wrote:
>=20
>> JESUS H CHRIST....
>> I mean... O M G..
>> OH NO!! Ummm
>> GOD!
>> Why cant I stop blasphemin...
>> OK:. pull youself together Mark...
>>=20
>> Fucking Hell Reyn... simply wonderful... Renovating old and historic
>> buildings is important and necessary, even if the expense is not
>> financially always sensible, (an I should know, I live in a house =
from
>> 1792)  spiritually and ethically it is important for us to live in a
>> world that reveres and honours the past. I applaud you in this. A
>> master musician and a master builder.. man, your mum must be proud!
>>=20
>> Mark
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Rapha=EBl - Mancing Dolecules
>> <raphael@mancingdolecules.com> wrote:
>>> Wow, that's a nice place to record some music !
>>>=20
>>> Hope to see some VS looping videos from your old/new place when the =
transformation is over :).
>>>=20
>>> Cheers,
>>>=20
>>> Rapha=EBl
>>>=20
>>> Le 5 mai 2011 =E0 17:46, Reyn Ouwehand a =E9crit :
>>>=20
>>>> Almost there... almost there...
>>>>=20
>>>> www.reyn.net/studio
>>>>=20
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>=20
>>>> Reyn
>>>>=20
>>>> www.reyn.net
>>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> --=20
>> Mark Francombe
>> www.markfrancombe.com
>> www.ordoabkhao.com
>> http://vimeo.com/user825094
>> http://www.looop.no
>> twitter @markfrancombe
>>=20
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I can start next week :-)
I hope you like hamburgers...
Bill

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> I can start next week :-)
> I hope you like hamburgers...

He whips a pretty good lapsteel stew too!

daniel 
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> I can start next week :-)
> I hope you like hamburgers...
> Bill
> 

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http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/110505.html

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem,
PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet.  WDIY also broadcasts
in Digital HD at 88.1 FM.

                 Show #735                May 5, 2011.

RECAP:
On this show, I began a month-long focus on Rudy Adrian.  The Featured
CD at Midnight was "Twilight" which is a self-released title.

Rudy Adrian: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#may


PLAYLIST:

11:04 pm
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Kevin Braheny        Starflight 1 *       Galaxies (Hearts of Space)
Ian Boddy and        Portal               Exit Strategy (DiN)
   Parallel Worlds
Ian Boddy and        Impresario           Exit Strategy (DiN)
   Parallel Worlds
Ian Boddy and        Soliloquy            Exit Strategy (DiN)
   Parallel Worlds
Autistici            Resonating Wire      Complex Tone Test (Keshhhhhh)
Barry Schrader       First Spring         Beyond (Innova)
Aria Rostami         Streetlights as      Form (none)
                        Fairgrounds
In Boddy             Coriolis             Pearl (DiN)
In Boddy             Chiasmata            Pearl (DiN)

12:00 am
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Steve Roach and      Serpent Gulch        The Desert Inbetween (Projekt)
   Brian Parnham
Rudy Adrian          Eclipse              Twilight (none)
Rudy Adrian          Towards the White    Twilight (none)
                        Mountains
Rudy Adrian          Enveloping Mists     Twilight (none)
Rudy Adrian          Summa Cum Laude      Twilight (none)
Rudy Adrian          Return to Fire       Twilight (none)
                        Island
Rudy Adrian          Disturbed            Twilight (none)
                        Reflections
Rudy Adrian          Passing Through      Twilight (none)
                        Familiar Hills
Rudy Adrian          Autumnal Twilights   Twilight (none)
                        On Victory Beach
Rudy Adrian          Stargazers           Twilight (none)
Rudy Adrian          Wtery Moon           Twilight (none)
Darkened Soul        Bathys               Bathys (Hypnos Secret Sounds)

1:00 am

  * = excerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
++ = Advance CDR from Artist
-- = Background music under interview


NEXT SHOW:
On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Rudy
Adrian.  The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Concerts in the USA" on
Groove Unlimited Records.

Bill
========================================================================
Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show,
Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in
Trexlertown and Fogelsville.  WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio
on 88.1 FM.
Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info
Listen to WDIY on-line.

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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Todd Matthews wrote:
> I have a show tonight with nude models present providing visual as 
> well as audio obstacles to the looping. I wonder what will derail me 
> first. An audio glitch or boob. I guess I'll be fine if I just keep 
> staring at my shoes while I play.

You know, that gives me an idea about the looping festival this year.

I think we should have nude male models,  no,  no, no,   I forgot that 
we have no budget.................I think we should
have nude male loopers to distract all of the loopers performing.

We could probably issue in a new mega error of shoe 
gazing/guitar/looping, don't you think?

rick walker

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I'll play this year as long as I can wear one strategically placed sock.=20=

On May 6, 2011, at 12:28 PM, Rick Walker wrote:

> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Todd Matthews wrote:
>> I have a show tonight with nude models present providing visual as =
well as audio obstacles to the looping. I wonder what will derail me =
first. An audio glitch or boob. I guess I'll be fine if I just keep =
staring at my shoes while I play.
>=20
> You know, that gives me an idea about the looping festival this year.
>=20
> I think we should have nude male models,  no,  no, no,   I forgot that =
we have no budget.................I think we should
> have nude male loopers to distract all of the loopers performing.
>=20
> We could probably issue in a new mega error of shoe =
gazing/guitar/looping, don't you think?
>=20
> rick walker
>=20

Todd Matthews
toddbass.com
twitter: gtodd876

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I have a show tonight with nude models present providing visual as  
well as audio obstacles to the looping.

Oh todd I'm sorry you will have to subject yourself to such a trial. :-)
Bill
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Hi Todd,
I have a Macbook with ableton and been testing it with guitar rig and
drum grooves sync to its internal looper and it seems to be fine.
I have buffer set to 256 and use 3 tracks,voice,guitar,drum grooves,
then i have the looper on the Aux/return.
Pretty happy so far,ableton is really stable.
I called Ableton recently though and asked them about the sync clock
issue when Ableton is slave and they apologized and said that they are
aware of it but working hard on it since many people have complained
about it.
cheers
Luis
(P.S. by the way i also called them because of their adverstised
50.00dlls rebate when you get live suite and the nano korg which
promotion they claim they dont have since last year anymore,( but
still adverstise it)and they gave over 100.00dlls worth of free
software instruments which was nice of them.)











On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote:
> Next time it happens open console and search for this:
>
> IOAudioStream
>
>
> You'll probably find some messages like this:
>
> 5/4/11 6:21:47 AM =A0 =A0 =A0 kernel =A0OAudioStream[0xbaef300]::clipIfNe=
cessary() - adjusting clipped position to (c075,fd9)
> 5/4/11 6:21:47 AM =A0 =A0 =A0 kernel =A0IOAudioStream[0xbaf1d00]::clipIfN=
ecessary() - Error: attempting to clip to a position more than one buffer a=
head of last clip position (c073,fd9)->(c076,7e9).
> 5/4/11 6:21:47 AM =A0 =A0 =A0 kernel =A0IOAudioStream[0xbaf1d00]::clipIfN=
ecessary() - adjusting clipped position to (c075,fd9)
>
>
> Apple will likely blame it on your 3rd party plug-ins like they did to me=
.(Sooperlooper or Mobius) Yet I can use the plugs-ins without problems on t=
he same hardware running Win7 instead of OSX. The first 6 months I went to =
the genius bar, and those guys don't really understand the whole doing live=
 music on your computer thing so you dont get very far.......I've had them =
send me new install disks, even a whole new laptop. Now I have the email ad=
dress of a guy high up in support, from all the toubleshooting I've done wi=
th apple and everytime I have these glitches I copy and paste the text from=
 Console. Then I ask for him to pass that info to the engineers that work o=
n Core audio/Logic/Mainstage etc.
>
> I have a show tonight with nude models present providing visual as well a=
s audio obstacles to the looping. I wonder what will derail me first. An au=
dio glitch or boob. I guess I'll be fine if I just keep staring at my shoes=
 while I play.
>
> On May 6, 2011, at 7:30 AM, todd reynolds wrote:
>
>> Mr. Matthews,
>>
>> I can't speak for Zoe, but I have to tell you, i've recently had four sh=
ows disturbed by audio glitches, and I can't seem to fix it whatsoever. =A0=
I wish I knew how to go into the console and find the errors so I could yel=
l at Apple more effectively. =A0This i the first computer, and it's new, th=
at I've EVER had this problem and it is seriously messing with my scene. =
=A0I think we need to talk further about this. =A0I'm about to go a little =
bit bonky with this serious liability in my performance scenarios. =A0Thank=
s for bringing this up once again. =A0I'm beginning to think it's indeed in=
 my mac, after having isolated everything else.
>>
>> Bests,
>>
>> T.
>>
>
>
> Todd Matthews
> toddbass.com
> twitter: gtodd876
>
>



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Definite thumbs up for ableton. In addition to the ableton looper, or
mobius, you can also use custom loopers in Max for Live. Ableton is
pretty forgiving of pokey computers as well.

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 6:19 PM, ^|>^m <will.it.go.round@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm looking to replace my EDP's with a software looper. =A0I do=A0rhythm=
=A0based
> looping with=A0arranged=A0canned beats and midi syncing so latency must b=
e very
> low. =A0I have a macbook 13" 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, but I'd be willing t=
o get
> a macbook pro, or even build a windows box.
> So, my question: should I start learning ableton? =A0Ableton has a looper=
, but
> should I use Mobius inside Ableton? I want to be able to have an
> arrangement, but also trigger different clips (improvised section), but a=
lso
> record loops with bass, guitar, aux percussion, and incorporate those too=
.
> Thank you looping community,
> Adam



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I'll heat up the BBQ BIll!! R.

On May 6, 2011, at 5:31 PM, William Walker wrote:

> I can start next week :-)
> I hope you like hamburgers...
> Bill
> 

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 what is the "sidecar"?

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:40 AM, Paul Richards
<paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com>wrote:

> Anyone know what it will cost? It looks like a nice add-on for the 'rang
> III.
>
> --- On *Thu, 5/5/11, Hoby Ebert <list2@moondogeast.org>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Hoby Ebert <list2@moondogeast.org>
> Subject: Boomerang Sidecar
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Thursday, May 5, 2011, 3:48 PM
>
>
>  For those who, like me, are anxiously awaiting the arrival of the sideca=
r
> for the Boomerang III, Mike Nelson informed me earlier this week that the=
y
> are about 6 weeks away from release.
>
>
>
> According to Mike:
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>
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> =93The chassis, circuit boards, graphic overlays, most miscellaneous part=
s
> and packaging are ready, but the software and manual aren't complete.
> Primarily we need to test the heck out of the software and squash any bug=
s
> that poke out their heads.=94
>
>
>
> Can=92t wait to strap on my leather aviator helmet and goggles, hook up t=
hat
> sidecar, and take it for a spin.
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> hoby
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<br>=A0what is the &quot;sidecar&quot;?<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">O=
n Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:40 AM, Paul Richards <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com">paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com</a>&gt;=
</span> wrote:<br>
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Anyone know what it will cost? It looks like a nice add-on for the &#39;ran=
g III. <br><br>--- On <b>Thu, 5/5/11, Hoby Ebert <i>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:l=
ist2@moondogeast.org" target=3D"_blank">list2@moondogeast.org</a>&gt;</i></=
b> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: =
5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Hoby Ebert &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:list2@m=
oondogeast.org" target=3D"_blank">list2@moondogeast.org</a>&gt;<br>Subject:=
 Boomerang Sidecar<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank=
">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br>Date: Thursday, May 5, 2011, 3=
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<p><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">For
those who, like me, are anxiously awaiting the arrival of the sidecar for t=
he
Boomerang III, Mike Nelson informed me earlier this week that they are abou=
t 6
weeks away from release. </span></font></p>=20

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<p><font face=3D"Courier New" size=3D"3"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; fo=
nt-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;">=93The chassis, circuit
boards, graphic overlays, most miscellaneous parts and packaging are ready,=
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the software and manual aren&#39;t complete. Primarily we need to test the =
heck out
of the software and squash any bugs that poke out their heads.=94</span></f=
ont></p>=20

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nt-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;">Can=92t wait to strap on
my leather aviator helmet and goggles, hook up that sidecar, and take it fo=
r a
spin.</span></font></p>=20

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I'm an RC-50 user, and also have an LP1, but I'm swamped with other
things so I can't fully integrate the LP1 into my show yet.

On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 4:25 AM, Louie Angulo
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> Hi Petri,
> how funny that im doing the same thing!
> You arer absolutely right,that software is anoying,im preparing for a
> gig this saturday and it took me almost an hour to get some samples
> transfered to the Digitech from their flimsy software,there is a new
> firmware version which i installed prior to working with it,i dont
> know what that is meant for,i started importing wav files and in the
> middle of working it crashed bad and lost it all, so i had to restart
> again.Prior to that i was rehearsing with it and as i was scrolling
> through the samples the digitech froze and cound not get it to do
> anything so i reboot it and found out i had lost every other sample in
> a slot,luckly i had made a jam list backup so i retransfered all the
> files.
> what i do like about the digitech is the easy of scrolling through the
> samples,but that switch click is so loud that it gets recorded
> everytime i loop anything(i have my mic going into the loops as well)
> I dont know why they replaced the old switches,they seem a lot
> quieter, think the Boss-RC30 will be better in that department.
> oh dont waste your time trying to call them or suggest
> improvements,their support is nada!
> Im also getting the RC-30 perhaps today or tomorrow to try out,im just
> using this for small pedalboard type of bar gigs and no racks,the
> RC-30 has an essential feature for me like the independent tracks,is
> too bad they didnt assign the undo/redo with the footswitch like the
> Digitech has,you still have to step on it 2 seconds impractical if u
> want ot do A-B arrangments grrr!
> oh well lets see if it beats the Digi
> cheers
> Luis
>
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Petri Lahtinen
> <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi and thanks to everybody for your responses!
>>
>> BUT it seems that RC-50 is not available here in Finland, anymore.
>>
>> The Roland headquarters is Denmark that supply gear to Nordic countries had
>> replied to my store, that they dont have any RC-50's there.
>> The chain of stores I use here in Finland, doesnt have not one unit here. So
>> will it become a discontinued product that gets replaced by the new RC-30...
>> who knows...?
>>
>> SO I'm getting the new RC-30 for test drive next week.
>>
>> Looking at the manual, it seems pretty straightforward unit. Need extra
>> footswitch, which is always annoying.
>> Probably nobody on the list doesnt have one of those, cause its so new unit?
>> Think it was 2011 January when the first units shipped.
>>
>> -Petri-
>>
>> 2011/4/26 Victor Eijkhout <victor@eijkhout.net>
>>>
>>> On Apr 25, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote:
>>>
>>> > Were there RC-50 users on the list?
>>>
>>> Check. Just bought it a month ago so I'm still learning. Fun toy though.
>>>
>>> Victor.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Petri Lahtinen
>>
>> http://www.petrilahtinen.com
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> www.luis-angulo.com
>
>



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THOUGHT RADIO:                       http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio
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My next stint on Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show,
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Hello,

My new album "Black Falcon" has been released. It is an album for tarhu, =
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myspace page.

Hope you will enjoy the music.

www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu

Here is what guitar player magazine said about the record :

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check out these links if you want to buy the album digitally :

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Your album makes me want to start playing the long necked Tarhu! I
really enjoy the sounds Ros makes with that fretless instrument! And
in your songs her rather romantic playing with ritardandi and such
stuff goes well together with your more balanced "electronics guitar"
playing. A lucky combination much up to my tastes :-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub



2011/5/7 Erdem Helvacioglu <erdemhel@tnn.net>:
> Hello,
>
> My new album "Black Falcon" has been released. It is an album for tarhu,
> electric guitar and live electronics. You may listen to excerpts at my
> myspace page.
>
> Hope you will enjoy the music.
>
> www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu
>
> Here is what guitar player magazine said about the record :
>
> http://www.guitarplayer.com/BlogComments.aspx?id=130747
>
> check out these links if you want to buy the album digitally :
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Black-Falcon/dp/B004M61Z4I/ref=sr_shvl_album_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1304764175&sr=301-2
>
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/black-falcon/id418588922
>
> Thanks and best regards.
>
> Erdem Helvacioglu
>
> www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
>

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Fellow loopists...I thought I'd list these here first, before I go elsewhere
with them.

 

My LP-1, used in excellent condition, with V1.34d software (upgradeable),
wall wart, manual (available as a download, too) but no original box.

 

$600 + shipping takes it. I'd like to keep it stateside, if possible---it's
just easier.

 

 

Also, my Lexicon Vortex used in good condition, with wall wart, original
manual, and a Lexicon tap/step/bypass pedal. I'll toss in a TRS cable with
it.

 

$200 + shipping takes it...

 

Email me offline, thanks.

 

May consider trades (in similar condition) for the Vortex, here is my
wishlist:

 

TC Electronics Nova Delay

Alesis SR-18 Drum Machine

Neunaber WET Reverb Pedal

 

 

Regards,

 

Edward


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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original
box.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>$600 + shipping takes it. I'd like to keep it =
stateside, if
possible---it's just easier.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Also, my Lexicon Vortex used in good condition, with =
wall
wart, original manual, and a Lexicon tap/step/bypass pedal. I'll toss in =
a TRS
cable with it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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it...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>May consider trades (in similar condition) for the =
Vortex,
here is my wishlist:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
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Delay<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Todd Matthews wrote:
> I'll play this year as long as I can wear one strategically placed sock.
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the first time,  at the very start of their career.

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You can read about it here:

 

http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/02/boomerang-iii-is-the-live-looper-box-t
exas-made-great-video-tutorials/?utm_source=feedburner
<http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/02/boomerang-iii-is-the-live-looper-box-
texas-made-great-video-tutorials/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_
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ic.com%29&utm_content=Bloglines

 

Haven't heard yet what the cost will be.

 

  _____  

From: andy soto [mailto:musicalmexicana@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 2:10 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Boomerang Sidecar

 


 what is the "sidecar"?

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:40 AM, Paul Richards <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com>
wrote:


Anyone know what it will cost? It looks like a nice add-on for the 'rang
III. 

--- On Thu, 5/5/11, Hoby Ebert <list2@moondogeast.org> wrote:


From: Hoby Ebert <list2@moondogeast.org>
Subject: Boomerang Sidecar
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Thursday, May 5, 2011, 3:48 PM

 

For those who, like me, are anxiously awaiting the arrival of the sidecar
for the Boomerang III, Mike Nelson informed me earlier this week that they
are about 6 weeks away from release. 

 

According to Mike:

 

"The chassis, circuit boards, graphic overlays, most miscellaneous parts and
packaging are ready, but the software and manual aren't complete. Primarily
we need to test the heck out of the software and squash any bugs that poke
out their heads."

 

Can't wait to strap on my leather aviator helmet and goggles, hook up that
sidecar, and take it for a spin.

 

hoby

 

 

 


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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font =
size=3D2
face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> andy =
soto
[mailto:musicalmexicana@gmail.com] <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, May 06, =
2011 2:10 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Boomerang =
Sidecar</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><br>
&nbsp;what is the &quot;sidecar&quot;?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:40 AM, Paul Richards &lt;<a
href=3D"mailto:paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com">paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com</=
a>&gt;
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<table class=3DMsoNormalTable border=3D0 cellspacing=3D0 =
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  <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
  style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Anyone know what it will cost? It looks =
like a nice
  add-on for the 'rang III. <br>
  <br>
  --- On <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Thu, 5/5/11, Hoby Ebert =
<i><span
  style=3D'font-style:italic'>&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:list2@moondogeast.org"
  target=3D"_blank">list2@moondogeast.org</a>&gt;</span></i></span></b> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
  style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><br>
  From: Hoby Ebert &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:list2@moondogeast.org" =
target=3D"_blank">list2@moondogeast.org</a>&gt;<br>
  Subject: Boomerang Sidecar<br>
  To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" =
target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br>
  Date: Thursday, May 5, 2011, 3:48 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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  <p><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>For
  those who, like me, are anxiously awaiting the arrival of the sidecar =
for the
  Boomerang III, Mike Nelson informed me earlier this week that they are =
about
  6 weeks away from release. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o=
:p></p>
  <p><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span =
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  to Mike:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o=
:p></p>
  <p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
  "Courier New"'>&#8220;The chassis, circuit boards, graphic overlays, =
most
  miscellaneous parts and packaging are ready, but the software and =
manual
  aren't complete. Primarily we need to test the heck out of the =
software and
  squash any bugs that poke out their =
heads.&#8221;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
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  <p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
  "Courier New"'>Can&#8217;t wait to strap on my leather aviator helmet =
and goggles,
  hook up that sidecar, and take it for a =
spin.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
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  <p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
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An excellent disc indeed, evocative and adventurous, you have a knack  
for combining textures of striking diversity.
  congrats Erdem, now get some rest:-)
  Bill

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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

. 05.10.11 . THE AMBiENT PiNG presents RADiO iN AMBiENCE
A special presentation featuring NOiNO + ProEf (iNSiDEaMiND)
+ GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS celebrating New Adventures in
Sound Art's Deep Wireless Festival of Radio & Transmission Art

@ Supermarket . 268 Augusta Ave . Kensington Market .
     just south of College  .  Map, info and directions at:
     http://www.supermarkettoronto.com/site/section/contact
     Tues. May 10th . Doors open at 8 . 1st set at 8:30 . $6

. ProEf (iNSiDEaMiND) . Cheldon Paterson (Professor
Fingers - ProEf) labels himself a "electronic musician." He should
be calling himself a "electronic artist," since the music he makes
as Professor Fingers is currently Toronto's most inventive
approach to performance art. With a sound dark and brooding, or
fantastical and wondrous, Professor Fingers creates fresh worlds
in every track. Fingers also embraces live performance, putting
on a show that includes costumes and props, scripted theatrics,
storytelling and loads of improvisation. Between himself and his
music, Professor Fingers engages you to join in the fun. His
willingness to engage the audience has allowed him to cross
Toronto's live music communities and he can be seen just as
comfortable on an underground hip-hop bill or between a noise
punk band and a folk orchestra. Professor Fingers is set to
release his anticipated debut album "The Door - Lost World"
this Summer. -Kevin P-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVYFO8UsiX8

A true feat in turntable manipulation that's been quietly sharpening
over the last 11 years. While most producers have long abandoned
the art of sampling vinyl records, ProF a seasoned professional
turntable musician has chosen to take the art form leaps further.
Forget about sampling breaks, ProEf uses audio imperfections
and distorted sounds as his main ingredients to create deep
mentally stimulating rhythmic landscapes. Fusing his scratch
wizardry and attention to detail with bold sound adventures,
Professor Fingers creates fresh rhythms and textures with his
finely tuned skills, as recently witnessed during a live performance
at the legendary composer Steve Reich's tribute at the Gardiner
Museum. The Door - Lost World is his latest offering and debut
album, a series of trippy off beat instrumental and vocal
songs that seem to take on a new life with every listen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsj2mOnaSA4
http://www.myspace.com/professorfingers

. NOiNO . It's been 5 long years since NOiNO last tuned up their
radios to warp out the found airwaves at a PiNG RiA show. In fact,
it's also been years since NOiNO last performed, so James Bailey,
Matthew Poulakakis and Jamie Todd are excited to be back to
trap the airwaves into loops, various efx and synthesizers.
Reception as sound source meant to be manipulated in real
time will be the order of the night. There may be transmissions,
there will be guests as dreamSTATE's Scott M2 will be
sitting in and there will definitely be weirdness as sound
is found and twisted. http://www.myspace.com/noinocanada

. GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS . Guys playing radios - sounds like
a night when the chaotic light paintings of General Chaos Visuals
will be needed, so we've invited Stephen Lindsey and Eric
Siegerman back out to mesmerize us with their wildly
improvised analog projections.
http://webhome.idirect.com/%7Eslindsey

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

COMiNG SOON

TUESDAY JUNE 7th 2011 . PETiTION OF RiGHT featuring
JAKOB THIESEN + SOUNS + More TBA

@ Supermarket . 268 Augusta Ave . Kensington Market
     just south of College  .  Map, info and directions at:
     http://www.supermarkettoronto.com/site/section/contact
     PiNG doors open at 8 . 1st set at 8:30 . $6

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

a new free download from the ping things net label:

"Its What Was in the Sky That Day" by Ben John Robertson

ping things is very pleased to release Ben John Robertson's latest
EP "Its What Was in the Sky That Day". By turns delicate and
uneasy, Robertson's work blends abstract feedback and noise
with unfiltered and raw emotion to create an engaging and
powerful listening experience that stays with you long
after the last tones have faded.

"Its What Was in the Sky That Day" is available for free download
as an 84Mb Zip file containing the full release in mp3 format along
with artwork suitable for printing. The music on this release is
copyright Ben John Robertson 2011 and may not be used or
reproduced without the artist's express permission.

http://pingthings.blogspot.com/2011/04/download-its-what-was-in-sky-that-day.html

Check out the ping things blog for more free download
releases from the ping things net label.
http://pingthings.blogspot.com

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

THE AMBiENT PiNG is a Toronto based creative community of
audio artists, performers, musicians and visual artists. The PiNG
presents live multimedia performances featuring ambient, electronic,
soundscape, space, drone, psychedelic, chillout, downtempo,
darkwave and experimental artists from around the world.
http://www.theambientping.com

The PiNG also has a Twitter account to send you advance updates
and reminders of the when & where of future PiNG events.
Just search for ambientping to find us. http://twitter.com

We're also on facebook too, again just search THE AMBiENT PiNG.
http://www.facebook.com

ViSiT the ping things store for ambient, electronic and chill things:
http://www.pingthings.com

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Please forward this e-mail to any interested friends or
appropriate newsgroups. Thanks.

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http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2011/110507.html

The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts.  When I am
at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear
electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix
of other genres.  The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EDT/GMT-4 on
WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet<.  I also host Afterglow
every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am.

                 Show #198                May 7, 2011.

On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music
magazine.  Each contemporary issue comes with a CD.  However, the early
issues came with a cassette.  The cassettes from issues one through
thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic
slip covers with artwork and track details.  Details are at:
http://sequencesmagazine.com

Phase I/Space:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Max Corbacho         On the Edge of       Deep Time (ad21)
                        Forever *
VA [Corporation]     Breed                Sequences No. 13
VA [Michael Livsey]  Stormbird            Sequences No. 14
VA [Syndromeda]      Rainforest Fever     Sequences No. 14
Ian Boddy and        Entwined             Exit Strategy (DiN)
   Parallel Worlds
Ian Boddy and        Exit Strategy        Exit Strategy (DiN)
   Parallel Worlds


Phase II/Eclectic:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Steven C.            Pianissimo           Spiritual Piano (none)
Steven C.            Temporary Space      Spiritual Piano (none)
                        Suits
Lisa Hilton          Just a Little Past   Underground (none)
                        Midnight
Josh Johnston        Peace (Nightsong 1)  The Shape of Things (Shandon)
Keith Driskill       A Time of Innocence  A Time of Innocense (none)
Lisa Lynne and       Bandora's Box        Weaving Worlds (none)
   Aryeh Frnkfurter


Phase III/Progressive Rock:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Mars Hollow          Eureka               Mars Hollow (10t)
NDV                  The River Is Wide    Karma (Radiant)
Poor Genetic         Island Noises        Island Noises (Progrock)
   Material
Alan Morse           Cold Fusion *        Four O'clock and Hysteria
                                             (InsideOut)


  * = excerpt
++ = Advanced CDR from artist
VA = Various Artists (compilation)

On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that
come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine.

Bill Fox
========================================================================
Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every
other Saturday at 6:00 am EDT/GMT-4.
Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music.
Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age.
Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases.
Website - http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio
Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line.

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Hi folks,

Visual Music LIVE continues at Outpost 186 on Sunday May 15 at 8 PM 
--  I'll be doing video improvisations with four  musicians who 
improvise in four different styles. This promises to be a very 
exciting show.

Glynis Lomon cello, voice
Andrea Pensado, electronics
Eric Crawley harpejji and electronics.
Dave Bryant - Piano

The musicians will play in all 6 duet combinations, followed by a quartet.

Dr. T -- Video Projections

My projections are produced by mixing multiple DVD sources with a 
video mixer and effects processor The sources consist of 
computer-manipulated original material derived from my still 
photography and videography. The original subject matter is usually 
recognizable, but sometimes processed to complete abstraction. 
Sometimes the projections and music respond directly to each other -- 
sometimes they simply co-exist.


Outpost 186, 186 Hampshire St (in the back), near Inman Square, Cambridge MA

Suggested donation,  $10

617.876.0860 ~ all ages ~ 
<http://www.zeitgeist-outpost.org>http://www.zeitgeist-outpost.org

Many of my finished video pieces (both studio and live) can be seen 
at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld. with two pieces from the 2011 
Series at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxBtaJajCkU and 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3_DnGzvg_w

Those of you who attend or perform at events at Outpost 186 may find 
my photo essay "Improvisations from an Outpost" 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157624670849749/ to 
be of interest,




-- 
My photography can be viewed at 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/

My videos can be viewed at
http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld

		Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D.
Video Producer			Image Processing Specialist
Video for your HEAD!			Boris FX
http://www.foryourhead.com		http://www.borisfx.com

" Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better."  -- Paul Bley

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Hi Gang...

 

Here's the scoop: Vortex is SOLD, and I decided to keep the LP-1 and try to
make sense of it (for now)...

 

I'll re-post it here first, if (and when) I decide to sell it...

 

Thanks again,

 

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Check out the latest chain tape collective project that I've been co-
ordinating - 

http://www.ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=music&albumid=46

all this amazing music and it's free!

All the best,

Nick Robinson

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i'd like to join the ranks of all those wonderful people who have just
released new material and let you guys know that i have a new album out
(actually it's four mini-albums) called "Beyond the Frozen Sea"

i decided this year to concentrate mainly on ambient music, so here we have
two hours of guitar soundscapes, in four half hour chunks. all the tunes
were one take improvisations.

you can listen at my bandcamp page - http://www.simeonharris.bandcamp.com

or have a look at the little mini-site i made for it and listen there -
http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/frozen/

best

sim

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i&#39;d like to join the ranks of all those wonderful people who have just =
released new material and let you guys know that i have a new album out (ac=
tually it&#39;s four mini-albums) called &quot;Beyond the Frozen Sea&quot;<=
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so here we have two hours of guitar soundscapes, in four half hour chunks. =
all the tunes were one take improvisations.</div><div><br></div><div>you ca=
n listen at my bandcamp page - <a href=3D"http://www.simeonharris.bandcamp.=
com">http://www.simeonharris.bandcamp.com</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>or have a look at the little mini-site i made for it an=
d listen there - <a href=3D"http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/frozen/">http://w=
ww.simeonharris.co.uk/frozen/</a></div><div><br></div><div>best</div><div>
<br></div><div>sim</div>

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Listening now.  Very nice stuff.

Thanks for the sounds.

Kevin

On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Simeon Harris
<simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
> i'd like to join the ranks of all those wonderful people who have just
> released new material and let you guys know that i have a new album out
> (actually it's four mini-albums) called "Beyond the Frozen Sea"
> i decided this year to concentrate mainly on ambient music, so here we ha=
ve
> two hours of guitar soundscapes, in four half hour chunks. all the tunes
> were one take improvisations.
> you can listen at my bandcamp page - http://www.simeonharris.bandcamp.com
> or have a look at the little mini-site i made for it and listen there -
> http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/frozen/
> best
> sim



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form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

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Listening while working here today and this music makes me feel good.
Pretty soon I need to run out to buy coffee so I can fully enjoy the
new situation with this music around. Would you mind posting here
about your recording process strategy, gear and instruments used etc?

I'm now on the last piece of Part 1, Landfall, and I like the order
you arranged these initial six tracks in. Brings a pleasant
"Hearts-of-Space mode" when listening to the full Part 1 in one swoop.

...finito! Now coffee break and then Part 2 and Part 3 while wrapping
up today's work.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub



On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Simeon Harris
<simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
> i'd like to join the ranks of all those wonderful people who have just
> released new material and let you guys know that i have a new album out
> (actually it's four mini-albums) called "Beyond the Frozen Sea"
> i decided this year to concentrate mainly on ambient music, so here we have
> two hours of guitar soundscapes, in four half hour chunks. all the tunes
> were one take improvisations.
> you can listen at my bandcamp page - http://www.simeonharris.bandcamp.com
> or have a look at the little mini-site i made for it and listen there -
> http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/frozen/
> best
> sim

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thanks guys

the gear chain was - KGB Custonm Headless Guitar with Sustainiac Stealth /
Custom Atlas Strat (on one tune) >> Axe-FX Ultra >> Macbook pro for looping
>> iMac G5 running Logic Studio for recording

i've been messing about with plugin hosts for a while, but i always loop
with Mobius, Augustus Loop and Crossfade Loop Synth
some of the tracks were recorded using these plugins hosted in Ableton Live,
some with them hosted in Bidule
all the loops can be treated live with various plugins, including
Audiodamage BigSeq, Reaktor Lurker, Reaktor Veirring, Soundtoys Delay,
Soundtoys Crystallizer, Michael Norris Dronemaker, Livecut, some others i
can't remember right now and various Ableton plugs
each tune was performed and recorded in one take, but sometimes it took
several takes of the same idea to get the one i wanted
a couple of tunes didn't use anything other than the Axe-Fx

i always name my tunes after recording them, but i kept the "concept" in my
mind while i was recording and tried to evoke the feeling of big spaces,
cold, wind, ice, loneliness, desperation, elation etc etc that might be
associated with undertaking a long journey in an inhospitable environment.
the music may be about an imaginary journey, or the whole thing might be a
metaphor, i guess you can decide which. i also entertained the idea that the
travellers didn't end up where they planned to go....take that as you
will...!

this was quite a difficult project for me, not just because of the sheer
amount of music i had to record (nearly three hours in total - look out for
the "Frozen Leftovers" EP soon), but because i still don't feel that i am a
particularly sophisticated "looper", but i tried to to push that from my
mind and just concentrate on creating some elegant and moving pieces. i hope
i succeeded.

thank you for listening!

sim

On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> Would you mind posting here
> about your recording process strategy, gear and instruments used etc?
>
>

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thanks guys<div><br></div><div>the gear chain was - KGB Custonm Headless Gu=
itar with Sustainiac Stealth / Custom Atlas Strat (on one tune) &gt;&gt; Ax=
e-FX Ultra &gt;&gt; Macbook pro for looping &gt;&gt; iMac G5 running Logic =
Studio for recording</div>
<div><br></div><div>i&#39;ve been messing about with plugin hosts for a whi=
le, but i always loop with Mobius, Augustus Loop and Crossfade Loop Synth</=
div><div>some of the tracks were recorded using these plugins hosted in Abl=
eton Live, some with them hosted in Bidule</div>
<div>all the loops can be treated live with various plugins, including Audi=
odamage BigSeq, Reaktor Lurker, Reaktor Veirring, Soundtoys Delay, Soundtoy=
s Crystallizer, Michael Norris Dronemaker, Livecut, some others i can&#39;t=
 remember right now and various Ableton plugs</div>
<div>each tune was performed and recorded in one take, but sometimes it too=
k several takes of the same idea to get the one i wanted</div><div>a couple=
 of tunes didn&#39;t use anything other than the Axe-Fx</div><div><br></div=
>
<div>i always name my tunes after recording them, but i kept the &quot;conc=
ept&quot; in my mind while i was recording and tried to evoke the feeling o=
f big spaces, cold, wind, ice, loneliness, desperation, elation etc etc tha=
t might be associated with undertaking a long journey in an inhospitable en=
vironment. the music may be about an imaginary journey, or the whole thing =
might be a metaphor, i guess you can decide which. i also entertained the i=
dea that the travellers didn&#39;t end up where they planned to go....take =
that as you will...!</div>
<div><br></div><div>this was quite a difficult project for me, not just bec=
ause of the sheer amount of music i had to record (nearly three hours in to=
tal - look out for the &quot;Frozen Leftovers&quot; EP soon), but because i=
 still don&#39;t feel that i am a particularly sophisticated &quot;looper&q=
uot;, but i tried to to push that from my mind and just concentrate on crea=
ting some elegant and moving pieces. i hope i succeeded.</div>
<div><br></div><div>thank you for listening!</div><div><br></div><div>sim</=
div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Per=
 Boysen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboy=
sen@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Would you mind posting here<br>
about your recording process strategy, gear and instruments used etc?<br><b=
r></blockquote></div></div>

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Superb (taste for) sounds.
Congratz, Sim. Very very nice.

-f
www.eterogeneo

PS: her's another one interested in process/gear/curiosities...


2011/5/9 Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com>

> i'd like to join the ranks of all those wonderful people who have just
> released new material and let you guys know that i have a new album out
> (actually it's four mini-albums) called "Beyond the Frozen Sea"
>
> i decided this year to concentrate mainly on ambient music, so here we have
> two hours of guitar soundscapes, in four half hour chunks. all the tunes
> were one take improvisations.
>
> you can listen at my bandcamp page - http://www.simeonharris.bandcamp.com
>
> or have a look at the little mini-site i made for it and listen there -
> http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/frozen/
>
> best
>
> sim
>

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<div>Superb (taste for) sounds.</div>
<div>Congratz, Sim. Very very nice.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>-f</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.eterogeneo/">www.eterogeneo</a></div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>PS: her&#39;s another one interested in process/gear/curiosities...</d=
iv>
<div><br>=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/5/9 Simeon Harris <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:simeonharris40@googlemail.com">simeonharris40@googlemail.com=
</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">i&#39;d like to join the ranks o=
f all those wonderful people who have just released new material and let yo=
u guys know that i have a new album out (actually it&#39;s four mini-albums=
) called &quot;Beyond the Frozen Sea&quot;=20
<div><br></div>
<div>i decided this year to concentrate mainly on ambient music, so here we=
 have two hours of guitar soundscapes, in four half hour chunks. all the tu=
nes were one take improvisations.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>you can listen at my bandcamp page - <a href=3D"http://www.simeonharri=
s.bandcamp.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.simeonharris.bandcamp.com</a>=
</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>or have a look at the little mini-site i made for it and listen there =
- <a href=3D"http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/frozen/" target=3D"_blank">http:=
//www.simeonharris.co.uk/frozen/</a></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>best</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>sim</div></blockquote></div><br>

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wow once again breath taking Reyn,even though i had already seen the
pics on facebook
If u wouldnt mind sharing with us how this all came about id be really
grateful,ive always been interested in how people make their dreams
come true,this looks like a monstrous project financially but it looks
like one of those dreams that will soon come true for you.
All the power to you amigo!
cheers
Luis

P.S.can i get in line to record there?:-)

www.luis-angulo.com








On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Reyn Ouwehand <loopers-delight@reyn.net> wrote:
> Almost there... almost there...
>
> www.reyn.net/studio
>
> Cheers,
>
> Reyn
>
> www.reyn.net
>
>



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Nick,
Really enjoying the new album. Refreshing and organic. Nice!

Checked out your website <http://www.myspace.com/nickrobinsonloops> and 
found SO much good info about looping and electronic music in general. 
Really appreciated the links section.
Thanks
----------------------------------------------

Check out the latest chain tape collective project that I've been coordinating -

http://www.ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=music&albumid=46

all this amazing music and it's free!

All the best,

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Hi guys:

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<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi guys:<div><br></div><div>New post-rock ambient free comp ft loop stuff from loads of people inc Lowercase Noises,&nbsp;Echelon Effect, Evolv, Sky Flying By, me and loads of other people:<div><br></div><div><a href="http://theecheloneffect.bandcamp.com/album/singularity-1">http://theecheloneffect.bandcamp.com/album/singularity-1</a></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://theecheloneffect.bandcamp.com/album/singularity-1"></a>Ta</div><div><br><div>
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Hello fellow loopers! I usually don't write much on this list, but I'm
always checking the news, and have learned tons of valuable information
here.
Pretty much all the gear I use, which includes Ableton Live, Sooperlooper,
Mobius, FCB1010 and laptop, I learned to set it up reading this list. So
thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge!

That said, I would like to announce the release of my first EP "Loop
Folkl=F3rico", available to download on bandcamp:

http://alexandreklinke.bandcamp.com/

The album is based on traditional Brazilian rhythms, I used guitar loops on
most of the album to create all the percussive, harmonic and melodic parts.
I am from Sao Paulo, Brazil, and am currently living in Vancouver, Canada
for almost 3 years. Making this EP was a way for me to reconnect to my home
through the music.

Hope you enjoy it!

Cheers,
Alexandre

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Hello fellow loopers! I usually don&#39;t write much on this list, but I&#3=
9;m always checking the news, and have learned tons of valuable information=
 here.<div>Pretty much all the gear I use, which includes Ableton Live, Soo=
perlooper, Mobius, FCB1010 and laptop, I learned to set it up reading this =
list. So thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge!<div>
<br></div><div>That said, I would like to announce the release of my first =
EP &quot;Loop Folkl=F3rico&quot;, available to download on bandcamp:</div><=
div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://alexandreklinke.bandcamp.com/">http://=
alexandreklinke.bandcamp.com/</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>The album is based on traditional Brazilian rhythms, I =
used guitar loops on most of the album to create all the percussive, harmon=
ic and melodic parts.</div><div>I am from Sao Paulo, Brazil, and am current=
ly living in Vancouver, Canada for almost 3 years. Making this EP was a way=
 for me to reconnect to my home through the music.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Hope you enjoy it!</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</di=
v><div>Alexandre</div><div><br></div></div>

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Hi Simeon,

2011/5/9 Simeon Harris simeonharris40@googlemail.com

> [...] i tried to to push that from my mind and just concentrate on creating
> some elegant and moving pieces. i hope i succeeded.
>
>

You did. Beautiful!

Thank you very much!
Johannes
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Hi Simeon,<br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/5/9 Simeon Harris <span dir=3D"ltr"><a href=
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<div>[...] i tried to to push that from my mind and just concentrate on cre=
ating some elegant and moving pieces. i hope i succeeded.</div>
<div>=A0</div></blockquote>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>You did. Beautiful!</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Thank you very much!</div>
<div>Johannes<br>-- <br></div></div>
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o.nashorn@googlemail.com</a></div>
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Hi all=2C=20

As the title says=2C I am in awe of how after all this time=2C I am STILL b=
eing challenge by / and challenging my EDP's

in my latest build I have stripped away 1 of my three echoplexes and put it=
 on its own board with its own controller... this has allowed me to space o=
ut my FCB1010s midi notes a little as it it now only controlling two EDPs

so..... question time....I am looking for the ability to press a FCB1010 bu=
tton to send out the following from my EDP......


Mute/Stop all external hardware whilst  continuing my EDP loop.

basically I would love a button press to do the opposite of one of my favou=
rate techniques which is muting the echoplex whilst leaving the drum machin=
e running and then at the correct time BANG dropping the loop back in.

also if I can send such a command as the one above=2C would it still be syn=
cronised (I am imagining if its "muted" it WILL be but if its "Stopped" I w=
ill have to rely on my own timing otherwise it will be in "sync" but not ne=
ccicarily in "allignment"


thanks in advance for all your help.


Phill MyOneManBand

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 latest build I have stripped away 1 of my three echoplexes and put it on i=
ts own board with its own controller... this has allowed me to space out my=
 FCB1010s midi notes a little as it it now only controlling two EDPs<br><br=
>so..... question time....I am looking for the ability to press a FCB1010 b=
utton to send out the following from my EDP......<br><br><b><br>Mute/Stop a=
ll external hardware whilst&nbsp=3B continuing my EDP loop.</b><br><br>basi=
cally I would love a button press to do the opposite of one of my favourate=
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nning and then at the correct time BANG dropping the loop back in.<br><br>a=
lso if I can send such a command as the one above=2C would it still be sync=
ronised (I am imagining if its "muted" it WILL be but if its "Stopped" I wi=
ll have to rely on my own timing otherwise it will be in "sync" but not nec=
cicarily in "allignment"<br><br><br>thanks in advance for all your help.<br=
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From: Johannes Korn [mailto:jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com] 
2011/5/9 Simeon Harris simeonharris40@googlemail.com
		[...] i tried to to push that from my mind and just
concentrate on creating some elegant and moving pieces. i hope i succeeded.
> You did. Beautiful!

you did indeed, Sim, this is an awesome collection of atmospheres.

-Michael Peters


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thanks chaps! :O)

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:

>
> From: Johannes Korn [mailto:jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com]
> 2011/5/9 Simeon Harris simeonharris40@googlemail.com
>                [...] i tried to to push that from my mind and just
> concentrate on creating some elegant and moving pieces. i hope i succeeded.
> > You did. Beautiful!
>
> you did indeed, Sim, this is an awesome collection of atmospheres.
>
> -Michael Peters
>
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thanks chaps! :O)<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, May 11, 2011 at=
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<br>
From: Johannes Korn [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com"=
>jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com</a>]<br>
<div class=3D"im">2011/5/9 Simeon Harris <a href=3D"mailto:simeonharris40@g=
ooglemail.com">simeonharris40@googlemail.com</a><br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[...] i tried to to push that from my mind =
and just<br>
concentrate on creating some elegant and moving pieces. i hope i succeeded.=
<br>
&gt; You did. Beautiful!<br>
<br>
</div>you did indeed, Sim, this is an awesome collection of atmospheres.<br=
>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
-Michael Peters<br>
<br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br>

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ok, so my keyboard player has his garage destroyed by a runaway car a few
months ago and included in the items damaged was one of his spare keyboards.
now instead of replacing it with another keyboard, he's interested in the
idea of getting a laptop instead. i suggested to him that the best reson for
doing this would be to run a few really good emulations of specific
keyboards - a hammond, a rhodes, a moog and a mellotron. all sounds which
are not covered by the two keyboards that he currently uses. the laptop
would be an addition to those.
now he could go into PC World and pick up a windows PC for 300-400 quid, or
he could look at secondhand macbooks for 500-800 quid. he has 700 to spend,
but he'll need a decent controller keyboard and an audio interface as well.
my question is, if he gets a windows machine for 400 quid, is this going to
be a false economy? is he better off getting a used macbook instead? he's
not bothered which...he just wants reliability so it doesn't crash on stage
and it can run three or four softsynths, either standalone, or hosted.
as a macbook user myself, i know this would be a "safe" option, but i'm
clueless about windows laptops. the specs look good, but are they really ok?

sim

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ok, so my keyboard player has his garage destroyed by a runaway car a few m=
onths ago and included in the items damaged was one of his spare keyboards.=
 now instead of replacing it with another keyboard, he&#39;s interested in =
the idea of getting a laptop instead. i suggested to him that the best reso=
n for doing this would be to run a few really good emulations of specific k=
eyboards - a hammond, a rhodes, a moog and a mellotron. all sounds which ar=
e not covered by the two keyboards that he currently uses. the laptop would=
 be an addition to those.<div>
now he could go into PC World and pick up a windows PC for 300-400 quid, or=
 he could look at secondhand macbooks for 500-800 quid. he has 700 to spend=
, but he&#39;ll need a decent controller keyboard and an audio interface as=
 well.</div>
<div>my question is, if he gets a windows machine for 400 quid, is this goi=
ng to be a false economy? is he better off getting a used macbook instead? =
he&#39;s not bothered which...he just wants reliability so it doesn&#39;t c=
rash on stage and it can run three or four softsynths, either standalone, o=
r hosted.</div>
<div>as a macbook user myself, i know this would be a &quot;safe&quot; opti=
on, but i&#39;m clueless about windows laptops. the specs look good, but ar=
e they really ok?</div><div><br></div><div>sim</div>

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I've used a couple of Windows XP laptops for looping in Mobius and
found them totally stable. In fact a little more "snappy" in the feel
compared to Macs. I tried to run software instruments too but that was
too CPU demanding back in the days of 1 GHz Centrino machines. So I
used two laptops then; the PC for Mobius and a Powerbook with a
1250(?) MHz G4 CPU for synths and piping the synth audio digitally by
ADAT lightpipe into the looper machine. I think that if yo buy
secondhand computers you should at lest get a used box with Intel Duo
2 Core processor.

But I wouldn't recommend buying second hand. The computers of today
costs less than those of four years back and are way more powerful! If
I was your friend I would look into two alternatives:

1) Buying a new and cheap PC plus three or four synths I like. Keeping
money ready for buying a replacement PC if the first one dies (nice
option with the cheapest machines). This alternative is a bit of
gambling, you have to weight the lower cost against the calculated
loss if it turns out unlucky. You can't fully calculate stability and
CPU efficiency before you have all the stuff in your hands.

2) Buying a new Macbook Pro plus Logic Pro Studio. You get a big
number of synths and a sampler with a large sound patch library
included. It all "just works" with very low CPU taxing, no need to buy
anything more. Be sure to pick up the three year insurance so you can
get a new machine on the spot if it should go belly-up. The new i7
Macs are like three to four times as efficient with the Logic stuff
since the software can use the four cores as eight virtual cores (we
recently tested that with a mag here).

In both examples you have to stay away from the most CPU demanding
instruments in order to set up a stable rig. During the last years I
have been playing EWI in a band using a 2.2MHz Macbook with Mainstage
hosting a couple of Logic synths plus the sampler. I've found this
palette very useful in a live band situation, as you can swap between
synth+fx patches with a midi foot pedal as you perform the set with
the band.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub



On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Simeon Harris
<simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
> ok, so my keyboard player has his garage destroyed by a runaway car a few
> months ago and included in the items damaged was one of his spare keyboards.
> now instead of replacing it with another keyboard, he's interested in the
> idea of getting a laptop instead. i suggested to him that the best reson for
> doing this would be to run a few really good emulations of specific
> keyboards - a hammond, a rhodes, a moog and a mellotron. all sounds which
> are not covered by the two keyboards that he currently uses. the laptop
> would be an addition to those.
> now he could go into PC World and pick up a windows PC for 300-400 quid, or
> he could look at secondhand macbooks for 500-800 quid. he has 700 to spend,
> but he'll need a decent controller keyboard and an audio interface as well.
> my question is, if he gets a windows machine for 400 quid, is this going to
> be a false economy? is he better off getting a used macbook instead? he's
> not bothered which...he just wants reliability so it doesn't crash on stage
> and it can run three or four softsynths, either standalone, or hosted.
> as a macbook user myself, i know this would be a "safe" option, but i'm
> clueless about windows laptops. the specs look good, but are they really ok?
> sim

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On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> in a band using a 2.2MHz Macbook

Oops, another fast-finger-fuckup. Should be GHz of course! I don't
think I have used a 2 Mhz machine since the Atari days :-))

Per

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lol! yeah, i guessed that was the error!

well his budget won't stretch to a new macbook plus logic, although i agree
it would be the best solution, so i'll advise him to look at option one.
most of these new machines come with 4Gig of ram, so that's not a problem, i
think it's the processor he needs to pay attention to. some of the really
cheap ones still come with celeron processors, which he must avoid at all
costs. intel dual 2 core is the way to go.
thanks for your help, as always, per

sim

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > in a band using a 2.2MHz Macbook
>
> Oops, another fast-finger-fuckup. Should be GHz of course! I don't
> think I have used a 2 Mhz machine since the Atari days :-))
>
> Per
>
>

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lol! yeah, i guessed that was the error!<div><br></div><div>well his budget=
 won&#39;t stretch to a new macbook plus logic, although i agree it would b=
e the best solution, so i&#39;ll advise him to look at option one. most of =
these new machines come with 4Gig of ram, so that&#39;s not a problem, i th=
ink it&#39;s the processor he needs to pay attention to. some of the really=
 cheap ones still come with celeron processors, which he must avoid at all =
costs. intel dual 2 core is the way to go.</div>
<div>thanks for your help, as always, per</div><div><br></div><div>sim<br><=
div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Per Boy=
sen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboysen@=
gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class=3D"im">On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2=
:04 PM, Per Boysen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboysen@gma=
il.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>

&gt; in a band using a 2.2MHz Macbook<br>
<br>
</div>Oops, another fast-finger-fuckup. Should be GHz of course! I don&#39;=
t<br>
think I have used a 2 Mhz machine since the Atari days :-))<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Per<br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br></div></div>

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Simeon - just as a side point, what would be the "go-to" hammond, rhodes,
moog and mellotron emulations? (preferrably Mac and budget-frienddly)?


On 11 May 2011 12:32, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:

> i suggested to him that the best reson for doing this would be to run a few
> really good emulations of specific keyboards - a hammond, a rhodes, a moog
> and a mellotron. all sounds which are not covered by the two keyboards that
> he currently uses. the laptop would be an addition to those.
>

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<div>Simeon - just as a side point, what would be the &quot;go-to&quot; ham=
mond, rhodes, moog and mellotron emulations? (preferrably Mac and budget-fr=
ienddly)?</div>
<div><br>=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 11 May 2011 12:32, Simeon Harris <span dir=3D=
"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simeonharris40@googlemail.com">simeonharris40@g=
ooglemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">i suggested to him that the best=
 reson for doing this would be to run a few really good emulations of speci=
fic keyboards - a hammond, a rhodes, a moog and a mellotron. all sounds whi=
ch are not covered by the two keyboards that he currently uses. the laptop =
would be an addition to those.=20
<div></div></blockquote></div>

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hammond - http://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=showproduct&b=24
rhodes - http://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=showproduct&b=27
mellotron - http://www.gforcesoftware.com/ins_mtron.php
moog - http://www.arturia.com/evolution/ (not cheap)

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Pawel Janowski <pjanowski@gmail.com> wrote:

> Simeon - just as a side point, what would be the "go-to" hammond, rhodes,
> moog and mellotron emulations? (preferrably Mac and budget-frienddly)?
>
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hammond -=A0<a href=3D"http://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=3Dshowproduct&amp=
;b=3D24">http://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=3Dshowproduct&amp;b=3D24</a><di=
v>rhodes -=A0<a href=3D"http://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=3Dshowproduct&am=
p;b=3D27">http://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=3Dshowproduct&amp;b=3D27</a></=
div>
<div>mellotron -=A0<a href=3D"http://www.gforcesoftware.com/ins_mtron.php">=
http://www.gforcesoftware.com/ins_mtron.php</a></div><div>moog -=A0<a href=
=3D"http://www.arturia.com/evolution/">http://www.arturia.com/evolution/</a=
> (not cheap)<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Pawel Janow=
ski <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pjanowski@gmail.com">pjanowski@=
gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div>Simeon - just as a side point, what would be the &quot;go-to&quot; ham=
mond, rhodes, moog and mellotron emulations? (preferrably Mac and budget-fr=
ienddly)?</div>
<div><br></div></blockquote></div></div>

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I'd add:http://www.applied-acoustics.com/loungelizard/overview/
for rhodes and electric keys for very realistic sounds !

-f
www.eterogeneo.com



2011/5/11 Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com>

> hammond - http://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=showproduct&b=24
> rhodes - http://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=showproduct&b=27
> mellotron - http://www.gforcesoftware.com/ins_mtron.php
> moog - http://www.arturia.com/evolution/ (not cheap)
>
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Pawel Janowski <pjanowski@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Simeon - just as a side point, what would be the "go-to" hammond, rhodes,
>> moog and mellotron emulations? (preferrably Mac and budget-frienddly)?
>>
>>

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<div>I&#39;d add:<a href=3D"http://www.applied-acoustics.com/loungelizard/o=
verview/">http://www.applied-acoustics.com/loungelizard/overview/</a></div>
<div>for rhodes and electric keys for very realistic sounds !</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>-f</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.eterogeneo.com/">www.eterogeneo.com</a></div>
<div><br><br>=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/5/11 Simeon Harris <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:simeonharris40@googlemail.com">simeonharris40@googlemail.co=
m</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">hammond -=A0<a href=3D"http://ww=
w.genuinesoundware.com/?a=3Dshowproduct&amp;b=3D24" target=3D"_blank">http:=
//www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=3Dshowproduct&amp;b=3D24</a>=20
<div>rhodes -=A0<a href=3D"http://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=3Dshowproduct=
&amp;b=3D27" target=3D"_blank">http://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=3Dshowpro=
duct&amp;b=3D27</a></div>
<div>mellotron -=A0<a href=3D"http://www.gforcesoftware.com/ins_mtron.php" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.gforcesoftware.com/ins_mtron.php</a></div>
<div>moog -=A0<a href=3D"http://www.arturia.com/evolution/" target=3D"_blan=
k">http://www.arturia.com/evolution/</a> (not cheap)=20
<div class=3D"im"><br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Pawel Janowski =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pjanowski@gmail.com" target=3D"_bla=
nk">pjanowski@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<div>Simeon - just as a side point, what would be the &quot;go-to&quot; ham=
mond, rhodes, moog and mellotron emulations? (preferrably Mac and budget-fr=
ienddly)?</div>
<div><br></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br>

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Hello,

I just found this while surfing.

Mixware, LLC was founded in 2008 by Gerard and Laurent Cohen, founders of 
the Stanton Group. Mixware recently acquired Electrix and is hard at work 
re-launching the brand. The first two products to emerge will be the Ebox-44 
audio interface and Tweaker MIDI controller.
http://www.electrixpro.com/products.html

Is it something new?

Why would you buy electrix? Does this gives you some intelectual rights on 
the legacy products?

Are we going back in a loop of announcement and delayed release date of a 
new repeater ;-)

Ben


 

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http://futuremusic.com/blog/2011/05/06/electrix-announces-tweaker-performance-usb-controller/

Looks like the former founders of Stanton acquired the electrix brand to
sell dj equipment. I wouldn't expect a re-release of the repeater.

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 7:15 AM, Ruelle Benoit <benoitruelle@yahoo.fr>wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I just found this while surfing.
>
> Mixware, LLC was founded in 2008 by Gerard and Laurent Cohen, founders of
> the Stanton Group. Mixware recently acquired Electrix and is hard at work
> re-launching the brand. The first two products to emerge will be the Ebox-44
> audio interface and Tweaker MIDI controller.
> http://www.electrixpro.com/products.html
>
> Is it something new?
>
> Why would you buy electrix? Does this gives you some intelectual rights on
> the legacy products?
>
> Are we going back in a loop of announcement and delayed release date of a
> new repeater ;-)
>
> Ben
>
>
>
>
>


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<a href=3D"http://futuremusic.com/blog/2011/05/06/electrix-announces-tweake=
r-performance-usb-controller/">http://futuremusic.com/blog/2011/05/06/elect=
rix-announces-tweaker-performance-usb-controller/</a><br><br>Looks like the=
 former founders of Stanton acquired the electrix brand to sell dj equipmen=
t. I wouldn&#39;t expect a re-release of the repeater.<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 7:15 AM, Ruelle Beno=
it <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:benoitruelle@yahoo.fr">benoitrue=
lle@yahoo.fr</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Hello,<br>
<br>
I just found this while surfing.<br>
<br>
Mixware, LLC was founded in 2008 by Gerard and Laurent Cohen, founders of t=
he Stanton Group. Mixware recently acquired Electrix and is hard at work re=
-launching the brand. The first two products to emerge will be the Ebox-44 =
audio interface and Tweaker MIDI controller.<br>

<a href=3D"http://www.electrixpro.com/products.html" target=3D"_blank">http=
://www.electrixpro.com/products.html</a><br>
<br>
Is it something new?<br>
<br>
Why would you buy electrix? Does this gives you some intelectual rights on =
the legacy products?<br>
<br>
Are we going back in a loop of announcement and delayed release date of a n=
ew repeater ;-)<br>
<br>
Ben<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Art Simon<br><a href=3D=
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Simeon,
He should look at the mac mini.  The cost to awe ratio is fairly
decent and it can be setup with applescripts to open the VSTi host on
power-up so it makes for a compact (and cheap) alternative to a
macbook.
Sylvain


On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Simeon Harris
<simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
> lol! yeah, i guessed that was the error!
> well his budget won't stretch to a new macbook plus logic, although i agree
> it would be the best solution, so i'll advise him to look at option one.
> most of these new machines come with 4Gig of ram, so that's not a problem, i
> think it's the processor he needs to pay attention to. some of the really
> cheap ones still come with celeron processors, which he must avoid at all
> costs. intel dual 2 core is the way to go.
> thanks for your help, as always, per
> sim
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > in a band using a 2.2MHz Macbook
>>
>> Oops, another fast-finger-fuckup. Should be GHz of course! I don't
>> think I have used a 2 Mhz machine since the Atari days :-))
>>
>> Per
>>
>
>

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I'd like to say that the iPod / iPad / iPhone App selection is 
phenomenal...  coupled with either the Line6 Midi interface or one of 
the Akai docking station keyboard controllers you're pretty much 
done..!
I use the Fairlight App, Bebot and Akai Synthstation... they 
represent ridiculous value.

http://www.akaipro.com/synthstation49

http://www.akaipro.com/synthstation25

Fairlight App ($50)

http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2011/01/19/fairlight-cmi-ipad-app-first-look/

"Ellatron" Melotron App: ($2.99) Said to be better than the Manetron.

http://ellatron.blogspot.com/


Manetron Melotron App: ($2.99)

http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2009/05/08/manetron-mellotron-for-iphone-ipod-touch-in-app-store-now/



>hammond 
>- <http://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=showproduct&b=24>http://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=showproduct&b=24
>rhodes 
>- <http://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=showproduct&b=27>http://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=showproduct&b=27
>mellotron 
>- <http://www.gforcesoftware.com/ins_mtron.php>http://www.gforcesoftware.com/ins_mtron.php
>moog 
>- <http://www.arturia.com/evolution/>http://www.arturia.com/evolution/ 
>(not cheap)
>
>On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Pawel Janowski 
><<mailto:pjanowski@gmail.com>pjanowski@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Simeon - just as a side point, what would be the "go-to" hammond, 
>rhodes, moog and mellotron emulations? (preferrably Mac and 
>budget-frienddly)?


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<div>I'd like to say that the iPod / iPad / iPhone App selection is
phenomenal...&nbsp; coupled with either the Line6 Midi interface or
one of the Akai docking station keyboard controllers you're pretty
much done..!</div>
<div>I use the Fairlight App, Bebot and Akai Synthstation... they
represent ridiculous value.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>http://www.akaipro.com/synthstation49</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>http://www.akaipro.com/synthstation25</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Fairlight App ($50)</div>
<div><br></div>
<div
>http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2011/01/19/fairlight-cmi-ipad-app-<span
></span>first-look/</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>&quot;Ellatron&quot; Melotron App: ($2.99) Said to be better than
the Manetron.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>http://ellatron.blogspot.com/</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Manetron Melotron App: ($2.99)</div>
<div><br></div>
<div
>http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2009/05/08/manetron-mellotron-for-<span
></span>iphone-ipod-touch-in-app-store-now/</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><br></div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>hammond -&nbsp;<a
href="http://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=showproduct&amp;b=24"
>http://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=showproduct&amp;b=24</a></blockquote
>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>rhodes -&nbsp;<a
href="http://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=showproduct&amp;b=27"
>http://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=showproduct&amp;b=27</a></blockquote
>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>mellotron -&nbsp;<a
href="http://www.gforcesoftware.com/ins_mtron.php"
>http://www.gforcesoftware.com/ins_mtron.php</a></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>moog -&nbsp;<a
href="http://www.arturia.com/evolution/"
>http://www.arturia.com/evolution/</a> (not cheap)<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Pawel
Janowski &lt;<a
href="mailto:pjanowski@gmail.com">pjanowski@gmail.com</a>&gt;
wrote:<br>
<blockquote>Simeon - just as a side point, what would be the
&quot;go-to&quot; hammond, rhodes, moog and mellotron emulations?
(preferrably Mac and budget-frienddly)?</blockquote>
</blockquote>
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yes will do. the only thing that worries me slightly, is that if something
goes wrong, you have no option other than to reboot and hope it fixes
itself. at lease the laptop gives you some visual feedback....

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com
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> Simeon,
> He should look at the mac mini.  The cost to awe ratio is fairly
> decent and it can be setup with applescripts to open the VSTi host on
> power-up so it makes for a compact (and cheap) alternative to a
> macbook.
> Sylvain
>
>
>

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yes will do. the only thing that worries me slightly, is that if something =
goes wrong, you have no option other than to reboot and hope it fixes itsel=
f. at lease the laptop gives you some visual feedback....<br><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Sylvain Poitras <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:sylvain.trombone@gmail.com">sylvain.trombone@gmail.com</a>&gt=
;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Simeon,<br>
He should look at the mac mini. =A0The cost to awe ratio is fairly<br>
decent and it can be setup with applescripts to open the VSTi host on<br>
power-up so it makes for a compact (and cheap) alternative to a<br>
macbook.<br>
<font color=3D"#888888">Sylvain<br>
</font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br>
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Thanks everyone, the =8050 Hammond and Rhodes are quite tempting, and, bein=
g
an IPhone user, so are the Iphone Apps. I have already been using the NLog
synth, which I am very happy with, so will definitely try the synths you
recommended.

I also didn't know something like the Akai synthstation existed...*checks
bank account*
On 11 May 2011 15:51, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:

>  I'd like to say that the iPod / iPad / iPhone App selection is
> phenomenal...  coupled with either the Line6 Midi interface or one of the
> Akai docking station keyboard controllers you're pretty much done..!
> I use the Fairlight App, Bebot and Akai Synthstation... they represent
> ridiculous value.
>
> http://www.akaipro.com/synthstation49
>
> http://www.akaipro.com/synthstation25
>
> Fairlight App ($50)
>
> http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2011/01/19/fairlight-cmi-ipad-app-
> first-look/
>
> "Ellatron" Melotron App: ($2.99) Said to be better than the Manetron.
>
> http://ellatron.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Manetron Melotron App: ($2.99)
>
> http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2009/05/08/manetron-mellotron-for-
> iphone-ipod-touch-in-app-store-now/
>
>
>
> hammond - http://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=3Dshowproduct&b=3D24
>
> rhodes - http://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=3Dshowproduct&b=3D27
>
> mellotron - http://www.gforcesoftware.com/ins_mtron.php
>
> moog - http://www.arturia.com/evolution/ (not cheap)
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Pawel Janowski <pjanowski@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Simeon - just as a side point, what would be the "go-to" hammond, rhodes,
> moog and mellotron emulations? (preferrably Mac and budget-frienddly)?
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> ...
> http://www.zmix.net
>
> http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky
>
> http://albumcredits.com/zmix
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<div>Thanks everyone, the =8050 Hammond and Rhodes are quite tempting, and,=
 being an IPhone user,=A0so are the Iphone Apps. I have already been using =
the NLog synth, which I am very happy with, so will definitely try the synt=
hs you recommended.</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>I also didn&#39;t know something like the Akai synthstation existed...=
*checks bank account*<br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 11 May 2011 15:51, Charles Zwicky <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cazwicky@earthlink.net">cazwicky@earthlink.n=
et</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div>
<div>I&#39;d like to say that the iPod / iPad / iPhone App selection is phe=
nomenal...=A0 coupled with either the Line6 Midi interface or one of the Ak=
ai docking station keyboard controllers you&#39;re pretty much done..!</div=
>

<div>I use the Fairlight App, Bebot and Akai Synthstation... they represent=
 ridiculous value.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.akaipro.com/synthstation49" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tp://www.akaipro.com/synthstation49</a></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.akaipro.com/synthstation25" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tp://www.akaipro.com/synthstation25</a></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Fairlight App ($50)</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2011/01/19/fairlight-cmi-=
ipad-app-" target=3D"_blank">http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2011/01/19/f=
airlight-cmi-ipad-app-</a><span></span>first-look/</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>&quot;Ellatron&quot; Melotron App: ($2.99) Said to be better than the =
Manetron.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><a href=3D"http://ellatron.blogspot.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://ell=
atron.blogspot.com/</a></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Manetron Melotron App: ($2.99)</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2009/05/08/manetron-mello=
tron-for-" target=3D"_blank">http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2009/05/08/m=
anetron-mellotron-for-</a><span></span>iphone-ipod-touch-in-app-store-now/<=
/div>

<div>
<div></div>
<div class=3D"h5">
<div><br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><br></div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">hammond -=A0<a href=3D"http://www.genuinesoundwar=
e.com/?a=3Dshowproduct&amp;b=3D24" target=3D"_blank">http://www.genuinesoun=
dware.com/?a=3Dshowproduct&amp;b=3D24</a></blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">rhodes -=A0<a href=3D"http://www.genuinesoundware=
.com/?a=3Dshowproduct&amp;b=3D27" target=3D"_blank">http://www.genuinesound=
ware.com/?a=3Dshowproduct&amp;b=3D27</a></blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">mellotron -=A0<a href=3D"http://www.gforcesoftwar=
e.com/ins_mtron.php" target=3D"_blank">http://www.gforcesoftware.com/ins_mt=
ron.php</a></blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">moog -=A0<a href=3D"http://www.arturia.com/evolut=
ion/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.arturia.com/evolution/</a> (not cheap)<b=
r></blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Pawel Janowski &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pjanowski@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">pjanowski@gmail=
.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<blockquote>Simeon - just as a side point, what would be the &quot;go-to&qu=
ot; hammond, rhodes, moog and mellotron emulations? (preferrably Mac and bu=
dget-frienddly)?</blockquote></blockquote>
<div><br></div>
<div><br></div></div></div><pre>--=20
</pre>
<div><br>...<br><a href=3D"http://www.zmix.net/" target=3D"_blank">http://w=
ww.zmix.net</a><br><br><a href=3D"http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky" targ=
et=3D"_blank">http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky</a><br><br><a href=3D"htt=
p://albumcredits.com/zmix" target=3D"_blank">http://albumcredits.com/zmix</=
a></div>
</div></blockquote></div><br>

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So beautiful!
  Thanks Sim
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i have to say, that hammond is pretty amazing for the price. it stacks up
very well against the native instruments B3, which is way more expensive!

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> Thanks everyone, the =8050 Hammond and Rhodes are quite tempting
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i have to say, that hammond is pretty amazing for the price. it stacks up v=
ery well against the native instruments B3, which is way more expensive!<br=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Pawel Jano=
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Hey Phill,
i do this all the time using my Adrenalinn slaved to my EDP,what i
basically do is send a stop comand to the Adrenalinn,i believe in the
Adrenalinns midi implementation ti would be Controller # 80
then bring back the EDP by sending some of those cool  virtual comands
like QuantMIDIStartSong or MuteQuantMIDIStartSong among my favorites.
I can also send a stop comand on both or mute each other while the
other is going,do lots fo replacing on the EDPs loop and mess it all
up,revese it,half speed it,multiply it and bring back the groove in
half time all wth the FCB1010.
I also use the StartPoint to redefine the loops begining and turn the
beat around.
however i only use one EDP,stereo is to much of a gamble when doing
tight groovy stuff like that.
Tight groovy stuff,reliable and lots of fun!
Luis

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:27 PM, phillip wilson
<phillwilson@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> As the title says, I am in awe of how after all this time, I am STILL bei=
ng
> challenge by / and challenging my EDP's
>
> in my latest build I have stripped away 1 of my three echoplexes and put =
it
> on its own board with its own controller... this has allowed me to space =
out
> my FCB1010s midi notes a little as it it now only controlling two EDPs
>
> so..... question time....I am looking for the ability to press a FCB1010
> button to send out the following from my EDP......
>
>
> Mute/Stop all external hardware whilst=A0 continuing my EDP loop.
>
> basically I would love a button press to do the opposite of one of my
> favourate techniques which is muting the echoplex whilst leaving the drum
> machine running and then at the correct time BANG dropping the loop back =
in.
>
> also if I can send such a command as the one above, would it still be
> syncronised (I am imagining if its "muted" it WILL be but if its "Stopped=
" I
> will have to rely on my own timing otherwise it will be in "sync" but not
> neccicarily in "allignment"
>
>
> thanks in advance for all your help.
>
>
> Phill MyOneManBand
>
> See my sets here -
> http://www.youtube.com/user/phillwilson?feature=3Dmhum#p/a/u/0/Wgkx3tNZhc=
o
>
>
>



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You might also be interested in trying Synth1, which is a freeware emulatio=
n of the Nord Lead (which itself is virtual analog and sort of a polyphonic=
 Minimoog). Just google it and you'll find a bunch of sites you can downloa=
d it from.=20

----- Original Message -----=20
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Thanks everyone, the =E2=82=AC50 Hammond and Rhodes are quite tempting, and=
, being an IPhone user, so are the Iphone Apps. I have already been using t=
he NLog synth, which I am very happy with, so will definitely try the synth=
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I have heard about this one, but unfortunately it's not available for Mac..=
.

On 11 May 2011 17:59, Christophe <cburke55@comcast.net> wrote:

>  You might also be interested in trying Synth1, which is a freeware
> emulation of the Nord Lead (which itself is virtual analog and sort of a
> polyphonic Minimoog).  Just google it and you'll find a bunch of sites yo=
u
> can download it from.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pawel Janowski" <pjanowski@gmail.com>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 11:15:40 AM
> Subject: Re: Softsynths
>
> Thanks everyone, the =8050 Hammond and Rhodes are quite tempting, and, be=
ing
> an IPhone user, so are the Iphone Apps. I have already been using the NLo=
g
> synth, which I am very happy with, so will definitely try the synths you
> recommended.
>
>
>

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I have heard about this one, but unfortunately it&#39;s not available for M=
ac...<br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 11 May 2011 17:59, Christophe <span dir=3D"lt=
r">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cburke55@comcast.net">cburke55@comcast.net</a>&gt;=
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<div>
<div style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">You migh=
t also be interested in trying Synth1, which is a freeware emulation of the=
 Nord Lead (which itself is virtual analog and sort of a polyphonic Minimoo=
g).=A0 Just google it and you&#39;ll find a bunch of sites you can download=
 it from.=20
<div class=3D"im"><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: &quot;Pawel=
 Janowski&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pjanowski@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank=
">pjanowski@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loop=
ers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><=
br>
</div>
<div class=3D"im">Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 11:15:40 AM<br>Subject: Re:=
 Softsynths<br><br>
<div>Thanks everyone, the =8050 Hammond and Rhodes are quite tempting, and,=
 being an IPhone user,=A0so are the Iphone Apps. I have already been using =
the NLog synth, which I am very happy with, so will definitely try the synt=
hs you recommended.</div>

<div>=A0</div><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br>

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Weren't native instruments doing a free Kore player for a while? Don't know i=
f they're still doing it

Sent from my iPod

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> I have heard about this one, but unfortunately it's not available for Mac.=
..
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> On 11 May 2011 17:59, Christophe <cburke55@comcast.net> wrote:
> You might also be interested in trying Synth1, which is a freeware emulati=
on of the Nord Lead (which itself is virtual analog and sort of a polyphonic=
 Minimoog).  Just google it and you'll find a bunch of sites you can downloa=
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>=20
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<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Weren't native instruments doing a free Kore player for a while? Don't know if they're still doing it<br><br>Sent from my iPod</div><div><br>On 11 May 2011, at 18:35, Pawel Janowski &lt;<a href="mailto:pjanowski@gmail.com">pjanowski@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>I have heard about this one, but unfortunately it's not available for Mac...<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 11 May 2011 17:59, Christophe <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:cburke55@comcast.net"><a href="mailto:cburke55@comcast.net">cburke55@comcast.net</a></a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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<div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">You might also be interested in trying Synth1, which is a freeware emulation of the Nord Lead (which itself is virtual analog and sort of a polyphonic Minimoog).&nbsp; Just google it and you'll find a bunch of sites you can download it from. 
<div class="im"><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Pawel Janowski" &lt;<a href="mailto:pjanowski@gmail.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:pjanowski@gmail.com">pjanowski@gmail.com</a></a>&gt;<br>To: <a href="mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a></a><br>
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<div>Thanks everyone, the â‚¬50 Hammond and Rhodes are quite tempting, and, being an IPhone user,&nbsp;so are the Iphone Apps. I have already been using the NLog synth, which I am very happy with, so will definitely try the synths you recommended.</div>

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This was recently released from Camel Audio - vst & AU.
(free!)

http://www.camelaudio.com/AlchemyPlayer.php

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Simeon Harris <
simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Weren't native instruments doing a free Kore player for a while? Don't kn=
ow
> if they're still doing it
>
> Sent from my iPod
>
> On 11 May 2011, at 18:35, Pawel Janowski <pjanowski@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have heard about this one, but unfortunately it's not available for
> Mac...
>
> On 11 May 2011 17:59, Christophe <cburke55@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>  You might also be interested in trying Synth1, which is a freeware
>> emulation of the Nord Lead (which itself is virtual analog and sort of a
>> polyphonic Minimoog).  Just google it and you'll find a bunch of sites y=
ou
>> can download it from.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Pawel Janowski" <pjanowski@gmail.com>
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>  Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 11:15:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: Softsynths
>>
>> Thanks everyone, the =8050 Hammond and Rhodes are quite tempting, and, b=
eing
>> an IPhone user, so are the Iphone Apps. I have already been using the NL=
og
>> synth, which I am very happy with, so will definitely try the synths you
>> recommended.
>>
>>
>>
>


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<div>This was recently released from Camel Audio - vst &amp; AU.</div><div>=
(free!)</div><div>=A0</div><div><a href=3D"http://www.camelaudio.com/Alchem=
yPlayer.php">http://www.camelaudio.com/AlchemyPlayer.php</a><br><br></div><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote">
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Simeon Harris <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:simeonharris40@googlemail.com">simeonharris40@googlemail.com</a=
>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padd=
ing-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1p=
x; border-left-style: solid;" class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><div>Weren&#39;t native instruments doing a free K=
ore player for a while? Don&#39;t know if they&#39;re still doing it<br><br=
>Sent from my iPod</div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><div><br>On 11 Ma=
y 2011, at 18:35, Pawel Janowski &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pjanowski@gmail.com"=
 target=3D"_blank">pjanowski@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br></div><div></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>I have heard about this=
 one, but unfortunately it&#39;s not available for Mac...<br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 11 May 2011 17:59, Christophe <span dir=3D"lt=
r">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cburke55@comcast.net" target=3D"_blank"><a href=3D=
"mailto:cburke55@comcast.net" target=3D"_blank">cburke55@comcast.net</a>&gt=
;</a></span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-l=
eft-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: s=
olid;" class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div>
<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;">Yo=
u might also be interested in trying Synth1, which is a freeware emulation =
of the Nord Lead (which itself is virtual analog and sort of a polyphonic M=
inimoog).=A0 Just google it and you&#39;ll find a bunch of sites you can do=
wnload it from.=20
<div><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: &quot;Pawel Janowski&quo=
t; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pjanowski@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank"><a href=3D"=
mailto:pjanowski@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">pjanowski@gmail.com</a>&gt;<b=
r>To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_bla=
nk"><a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank=
">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br>

</a></a></div>
<div>Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 11:15:40 AM<br>Subject: Re: Softsynths<b=
r><br>
<div>Thanks everyone, the =8050 Hammond and Rhodes are quite tempting, and,=
 being an IPhone user,=A0so are the Iphone Apps. I have already been using =
the NLog synth, which I am very happy with, so will definitely try the synt=
hs you recommended.</div>


<div>=A0</div><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br>
</div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"al=
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Ok, here's a completely different approach:

I have been using computer-based setups a lot since 2005, especially 
live. In fact, since that time, I haven't played a live concert at a 
venue (read: not a virtual MoinSound Studio Sessions thing from home or 
from my car) where I used anything else for sound synthesis or 
processing than a (Windows) computer. During that time, I found my setup 
to be reasonably stable (read: no specifically computer-related problems 
happening in more than very singular events). That being said:

I would strongly advise against using a computer unless there is a 
requirement or use case which makes no other option possible. (*)

So if the budget is in the 700 bucks range: perhaps a used Kurzweil 
K2000 or K2500 (which has good Rhodes patches, a very convincing B3 
emulation and you can do the Mellotron using available samples, as the 
K2x series allows for installation of sample memory), and if the 
Kurzweil's synth engine is not sufficient for that, get a Nord 
Micromodular for the Moog-type sounds.

There might be other alternatives available which do this as good or 
better, or he might even be able to accomplish some of the stuff with 
his other synths (which type are they btw), but that for me would be the 
recommendation - unless, of course, he'd also want to use Möbius, or 
some of his signature Reaktor patches.

Finally, talking about virtual electric pianos, I think the best 
price/performance (and computer ressources/performance) ratio is 
provided by the mda ePiano, found here:
http://mda.smartelectronix.com/

I used this on various tracks on my Weird Specialist album 
(http://moinlabs.de/index.php?id=273, e.g. here: 
http://moinlabs.bandcamp.com/track/detlev-on-drugs), and if you take the 
time to put a lightweight distortion and maybe chorus behind it, it will 
cover most of your needs.

Yours,

             Rainer

*: In my case, that requirement/use case was that I didn't want to spend 
a considerable part of my touring budget on excess baggage costs. When I 
did the switch to computer, my live setup consisted on the electronics 
side of a fully loaded 8HU angled rack, two 5-octave synth keyboards, a 
synth module, a drum machine, two Kaoss pads, two stomp boxes and a 
FCB1010. Afterwards, it consisted of a laptop, a small audio interface, 
a faderbox and a FCB1010 - and I would borrow a guitar and a synth 
keyboard (only used as a MIDI controller for the soft synths) locally.

Simeon Harris schrieb:
> ok, so my keyboard player has his garage destroyed by a runaway car a 
> few months ago and included in the items damaged was one of his spare 
> keyboards. now instead of replacing it with another keyboard, he's 
> interested in the idea of getting a laptop instead. i suggested to him 
> that the best reson for doing this would be to run a few really good 
> emulations of specific keyboards - a hammond, a rhodes, a moog and a 
> mellotron. all sounds which are not covered by the two keyboards that 
> he currently uses. the laptop would be an addition to those.
> now he could go into PC World and pick up a windows PC for 300-400 
> quid, or he could look at secondhand macbooks for 500-800 quid. he has 
> 700 to spend, but he'll need a decent controller keyboard and an audio 
> interface as well.
> my question is, if he gets a windows machine for 400 quid, is this 
> going to be a false economy? is he better off getting a used macbook 
> instead? he's not bothered which...he just wants reliability so it 
> doesn't crash on stage and it can run three or four softsynths, either 
> standalone, or hosted.
> as a macbook user myself, i know this would be a "safe" option, but 
> i'm clueless about windows laptops. the specs look good, but are they 
> really ok?
>
> sim


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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Ruelle Benoit wrote:
>
> Why would you buy electrix? Does this gives you some intelectual 
> rights on the legacy products? 

I don't know about the intellectual rights on legacy products, but I, 
personally,  love the Electrix Repeater.
Though more sophisticated (and reliable) loopers now exist on the market 
it does one thing that no
other hardware looper does and that is you can control the speed of the 
loop without changing pitch and
you can repitch the loop without changing it's speed.

As a found sound artist this opens up a world of possibilities for me.   
It means I can hit a brass candy dish
with my thumb,   manipulate the overtones in a rhythmic ostinato with my 
mouth held close to the dish
and then can control this sound chromatically over three octaves (one up 
and two down).

That means that every single found object I use can be recontextualized 
as a chromatic instrument
with the use of a wind controller (I use a WX-5 Yamaha wind controller, 
a keyboard or an old
Roland Pad80)

When my unit gave up the ghost after many years,  my brother, graciously 
gave me his old unit to use.
I'm about to put it back into my performance rig after a few years 
apart.  I'm very stoked about that.

Rick Walker

ps  I also have and love their Filter Factory,  the MoFx and the Warp 
Factory (vocoder)
which are all very saliently cool because you can use them in very 
rhythmic ways with midi sync and with drum machine
like buttons that control whether you are turning the effect on or 
turning it off in a rhythmic fashion.

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Yeah, the Electrix stuff was really pretty great, almost instruments
in their own rights.  I also am quite fond of the underrated EQ
killer.  3 band sweepable EQ that can swap between tow different
inputs and send the killed bands to another processor so you can do
the rhythmic trick with different processed sounds coming in.  Hard to
use effectively as a guitarist, but its actually the only Electrix bit
I still own (and I had a bunch).

Of course the reason the Repeater was unique is the reason it won't
come back. The technology that underlies that pitch ability is very
useful to the parent company in lots of other uses so they'll not let
it go out into the world unattended.

Kevin

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Ruelle Benoit wrote:
>>
>> Why would you buy electrix? Does this gives you some intelectual rights =
on
>> the legacy products?
>
> I don't know about the intellectual rights on legacy products, but I,
> personally, =A0love the Electrix Repeater.
> Though more sophisticated (and reliable) loopers now exist on the market =
it
> does one thing that no
> other hardware looper does and that is you can control the speed of the l=
oop
> without changing pitch and
> you can repitch the loop without changing it's speed.
>
> As a found sound artist this opens up a world of possibilities for me. =
=A0 It
> means I can hit a brass candy dish
> with my thumb, =A0 manipulate the overtones in a rhythmic ostinato with m=
y
> mouth held close to the dish
> and then can control this sound chromatically over three octaves (one up =
and
> two down).
>
> That means that every single found object I use can be recontextualized a=
s a
> chromatic instrument
> with the use of a wind controller (I use a WX-5 Yamaha wind controller, a
> keyboard or an old
> Roland Pad80)
>
> When my unit gave up the ghost after many years, =A0my brother, graciousl=
y
> gave me his old unit to use.
> I'm about to put it back into my performance rig after a few years apart.
> =A0I'm very stoked about that.
>
> Rick Walker
>
> ps =A0I also have and love their Filter Factory, =A0the MoFx and the Warp
> Factory (vocoder)
> which are all very saliently cool because you can use them in very rhythm=
ic
> ways with midi sync and with drum machine
> like buttons that control whether you are turning the effect on or turnin=
g
> it off in a rhythmic fashion.
>
>



--=20
Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org
Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos

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Cheers to 'legacy' Electrix products!

My EQ Killer has come out of the closet recently to do duty as a lowly 
phono preamp, and then i realized i can radically eq some vinyl and 
resample.
My Filter Queen is needing a trip to Condor Electronics for service, and 
then it will get pressed back into duty.



On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Rick Walker wrote:

> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Ruelle Benoit wrote:
>>
>> Why would you buy electrix? Does this gives you some intelectual 
>> rights on the legacy products?
>
> I don't know about the intellectual rights on legacy products, but I, 
> personally,  love the Electrix Repeater.
> Though more sophisticated (and reliable) loopers now exist on the 
> market it does one thing that no
> other hardware looper does and that is you can control the speed of 
> the loop without changing pitch and
> you can repitch the loop without changing it's speed.
>
> As a found sound artist this opens up a world of possibilities for me. 
> It means I can hit a brass candy dish
> with my thumb,   manipulate the overtones in a rhythmic ostinato with 
> my mouth held close to the dish
> and then can control this sound chromatically over three octaves (one 
> up and two down).
>
> That means that every single found object I use can be 
> recontextualized as a chromatic instrument
> with the use of a wind controller (I use a WX-5 Yamaha wind 
> controller, a keyboard or an old
> Roland Pad80)
>
> When my unit gave up the ghost after many years,  my brother, 
> graciously gave me his old unit to use.
> I'm about to put it back into my performance rig after a few years 
> apart.  I'm very stoked about that.
>
> Rick Walker
>
> ps  I also have and love their Filter Factory,  the MoFx and the Warp 
> Factory (vocoder)
> which are all very saliently cool because you can use them in very 
> rhythmic ways with midi sync and with drum machine
> like buttons that control whether you are turning the effect on or 
> turning it off in a rhythmic fashion.

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.. is it mostly due to heat, vibration or the OS?


Vibrations aren't good for traditional harddrives, which an SSD might remedy.
However, I would expect heat to be the most predominant source of craches, 
followed by OS/drivers and/or issues with applications or their interfacing.

-- 
rgds,
van Sinn

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On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

> Why would you buy electrix? Does this gives you some intelectual rights on
>> the legacy products?
>>
>
> I don't know about the intellectual rights on legacy products, but I,
> personally,  love the Electrix Repeater.


Yeah me too...
Im still interested in who owns the rights to the software for repeater tho,
As pointed out its being used in some other high end stuff, dj products I
think, so probably difficult to un-entwine legally. BUt that was under the
old guard of a gone-bust company. Things DO change, and I have already
ascertained on the repeater yahoo list that there is enough interest AND
enough tech no-how for a paid community dev of a software upgrade. It just
needs a human to talk to about confidentiality... It might be worth a note
to Peter to see if he has some news.. I do doubt it tho, as Im sure he would
have posted something...

-- 
*Mark Francombe*
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>Launched in 1999, Electrix is a division of IVL technologies. IVL has been=
 a key player in the pro audio industry since 1985 supplying products to th=
e likes of Mackie, TC Electronics and Digitech. Electrix has dedicated itse=
lf to revolutionizing music production with inspired, innovative and intuit=
ive products for the musical artist.

Don't think they're going to let their algorithm come out and play
with us rabble.

But, it would be great if it got loose.

Kevin


On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:38 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wr=
ote:
>
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote=
:
>>>
>>> Why would you buy electrix? Does this gives you some intelectual rights
>>> on the legacy products?
>>
>> I don't know about the intellectual rights on legacy products, but I,
>> personally, =A0love the Electrix Repeater.
>
> Yeah me too...
> Im still interested in who owns the rights to the software for repeater t=
ho,
> As pointed out its being used in some other high end stuff, dj products I
> think, so probably difficult to un-entwine legally. BUt that was under th=
e
> old guard of a gone-bust company. Things DO change, and I have already
> ascertained on the repeater yahoo list that there is enough interest AND
> enough tech no-how for a paid community dev of a software upgrade. It jus=
t
> needs a human to talk to about confidentiality... It might be worth a not=
e
> to Peter to see if he has some news.. I do doubt it tho, as Im sure he wo=
uld
> have posted something...
>
> --
> Mark Francombe
> www.markfrancombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no
> twitter @markfrancombe
>



--=20
Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org
Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos

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I would love to see the old electrix boxes put back out--i have gone through
3 MoFxs and 2 Filter Factories! To me, my best looping came from putting two
MoFXs in series and midi syncing them, then with the chopping tremolos and
the two delays, i was really doing some cool stuff! My only gripe was that
all the MoFX effects were poorly routed!


Charlie

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando
<billowhead@gmail.com>wrote:

> >Launched in 1999, Electrix is a division of IVL technologies. IVL has been
> a key player in the pro audio industry since 1985 supplying products to the
> likes of Mackie, TC Electronics and Digitech. Electrix has dedicated itself
> to revolutionizing music production with inspired, innovative and intuitive
> products for the musical artist.
>
> Don't think they're going to let their algorithm come out and play
> with us rabble.
>
> But, it would be great if it got loose.
>
> Kevin
>
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:38 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Why would you buy electrix? Does this gives you some intelectual rights
> >>> on the legacy products?
> >>
> >> I don't know about the intellectual rights on legacy products, but I,
> >> personally,  love the Electrix Repeater.
> >
> > Yeah me too...
> > Im still interested in who owns the rights to the software for repeater
> tho,
> > As pointed out its being used in some other high end stuff, dj products I
> > think, so probably difficult to un-entwine legally. BUt that was under
> the
> > old guard of a gone-bust company. Things DO change, and I have already
> > ascertained on the repeater yahoo list that there is enough interest AND
> > enough tech no-how for a paid community dev of a software upgrade. It
> just
> > needs a human to talk to about confidentiality... It might be worth a
> note
> > to Peter to see if he has some news.. I do doubt it tho, as Im sure he
> would
> > have posted something...
> >
> > --
> > Mark Francombe
> > www.markfrancombe.com
> > www.ordoabkhao.com
> > http://vimeo.com/user825094
> > http://www.looop.no
> > twitter @markfrancombe
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.
>
> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>
> Sound and Vision:  http://www.minds-eye.org
> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos
>
>

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I would love to see the old electrix boxes put back out--i have gone throug=
h 3 MoFxs and 2 Filter Factories! To me, my best looping came from putting =
two MoFXs in series and midi syncing them, then with the chopping tremolos =
and the two delays, i was really doing some cool stuff! My only gripe was t=
hat all the MoFX effects were poorly routed!<div>

<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Charlie<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
">On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando <span dir=3D"ltr">&l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:billowhead@gmail.com">billowhead@gmail.com</a>&gt;</spa=
n> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">&gt;Launched in 1999, Electrix is a divisio=
n of IVL technologies. IVL has been a key player in the pro audio industry =
since 1985 supplying products to the likes of Mackie, TC Electronics and Di=
gitech. Electrix has dedicated itself to revolutionizing music production w=
ith inspired, innovative and intuitive products for the musical artist.<br>


<br>
Don&#39;t think they&#39;re going to let their algorithm come out and play<=
br>
with us rabble.<br>
<br>
But, it would be great if it got loose.<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Kevin<br>
</font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:38 PM, mark francombe &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@=
markfrancombe.com">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Rick Walker &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lo=
oppool@cruzio.com">looppool@cruzio.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Why would you buy electrix? Does this gives you some intelectu=
al rights<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; on the legacy products?<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I don&#39;t know about the intellectual rights on legacy products,=
 but I,<br>
&gt;&gt; personally, =A0love the Electrix Repeater.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Yeah me too...<br>
&gt; Im still interested in who owns the rights to the software for repeate=
r tho,<br>
&gt; As pointed out its being used in some other high end stuff, dj product=
s I<br>
&gt; think, so probably difficult to un-entwine legally. BUt that was under=
 the<br>
&gt; old guard of a gone-bust company. Things DO change, and I have already=
<br>
&gt; ascertained on the repeater yahoo list that there is enough interest A=
ND<br>
&gt; enough tech no-how for a paid community dev of a software upgrade. It =
just<br>
&gt; needs a human to talk to about confidentiality... It might be worth a =
note<br>
&gt; to Peter to see if he has some news.. I do doubt it tho, as Im sure he=
 would<br>
&gt; have posted something...<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; Mark Francombe<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com" target=3D"_blank">www.markfra=
ncombe.com</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com" target=3D"_blank">www.ordoabkhao=
.com</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" target=3D"_blank">http://vimeo=
.com/user825094</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.looop.no" target=3D"_blank">http://www.looop.no<=
/a><br>
&gt; twitter @markfrancombe<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</div></div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">--<br>
Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a<br>
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.<=
br>
<br>
- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)<br>
<br>
Sound and Vision:=A0 <a href=3D"http://www.minds-eye.org" target=3D"_blank"=
>http://www.minds-eye.org</a><br>
Video <a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos" target=3D"_blank">=
http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos</a><br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div>

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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote:
> Yeah, the Electrix stuff was really pretty great, almost instruments
> in their own rights.

Definitely an instrument in it's own right!
> I also am quite fond of the underrated EQ
> killer.  3 band sweepable EQ that can swap between tow different
> inputs and send the killed bands to another processor so you can do
> the rhythmic trick with different processed sounds coming in.

I have to admit, I covet that EQ killer:
  It's the only major piece of kit that I never owned and kick myself that
I never bought one (especially when they were blown out at the end).
I even owned the Filter Queen but sold it and bought the Filter Factory 
which had more
bells and whistles.

They are also built like tanks but, unfortunately, they are all two rack 
spaces which is
a lot of real estate,especially given that one can only get a 6 space 
rack on an international
plane flight these days.

I only use them in the US when I have an automobile to drive them around 
and haven't really used
them much at all, but since I'm doing this new Rhythm & Noise project 
called 'aEther Engine'
where I'm trying to rhythmically slice, dice, eq and otherwise 
manipulate different noise sources
in a kind of strange dance oriented way,  I'm going to invest in an 8 
space rack and put
the Filter Factory, the Mo FX and the Repeater in with a one rack patch bay.

Anyone selling a little half rack EQ killer?    hint, hint?

Rick Walker
sent from my computer where I actually typed it

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hey all-i know we seem to be talking a lot about software loopers and all.
i recently (well a few weeks ago) set up a soundclick page. decided to try
to put up some of my recordings from my tascam dr03 (which is easy to upload
to computer-man i love that! )
well, the funny thing is that i found that since i have the "free" version
that i signed up for, i think i have about a 3-4 min limit on my uploads (i
had some jammy things that were lasting 7 min-15 min), & then i realized,
who the f*** would want to listen to me for that long. so today since i got
my new guitar finished FINALLY to do a couple of short tests w/ my pigtronix
echolution. there are at:

http://soundclick.com/hsacnostetn

it would be the 2 loop expierments from may 11 (today!)
the 3rd thing on their is one of my early tests just seeing how the tascam
would sound. it's more chunky guitar mess around

oh, 1st ex. loops start at about 2 min (still more tests for sound!). i
tried to play w/ the guitar a bit, turned on the feedback mic, used the
ground kill switch for hum, etc.
one thing is i'm loving the p90 pu's and then in clean mode w/ the feedback
mic on it has a "quasi-piezo" sound, most fun! the sad reality is that i
still haven't set the
intonation on the thing! too lazy, took me 4 days to get it wired. i'm
slow....and i need to get the whammy bar set right and ON IT-no whammying by
me, which i miss!!!
oh well. i set my soundclick page up to mimic my old mp3 page, when there
was another scott hansen, i came up w/ the creative solution of putting my
1st name inbetween
the letters of my last name. so clever-or it just looks like gobble-de-goop
of letters. either one is fine. happy looping.
i will say i still love the echolution. best purchase i've made in a long
time....funny thing i just did the 2 short tests, decided to not record
anything after it, and i thought my
loop i played around w/ after was better than the 1st too. classic. oh
well....happy looping....
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<div>hey all-i know we seem to be talking a lot about software loopers and =
all.</div>
<div>i recently (well a few weeks ago) set up a soundclick page. decided to=
 try to put up some of my recordings from my tascam dr03 (which is easy to =
upload to computer-man i love that! )</div>
<div>well, the funny thing is that i found that since i have the &quot;free=
&quot; version that i signed up for, i think i have about a 3-4 min limit o=
n my uploads (i had some jammy things that were lasting 7 min-15 min), &amp=
; then i realized, who the f*** would want to listen to me for that long. s=
o today since i got my new guitar finished FINALLY to do a couple of short =
tests w/ my pigtronix echolution. there are at:</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://soundclick.com/hsacnostetn">http://soundclick.com/hs=
acnostetn</a></div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>it would be the 2 loop expierments from may 11 (today!)</div>
<div>the 3rd thing on their is one of my early tests just seeing how the ta=
scam would sound. it&#39;s more chunky guitar mess around</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>oh, 1st ex. loops start at about 2 min (still more tests for sound!). =
i tried to play w/ the guitar a bit, turned on the feedback mic, used the g=
round kill switch for hum, etc.</div>
<div>one thing is i&#39;m loving the p90 pu&#39;s and then in clean mode w/=
 the feedback mic on it has a &quot;quasi-piezo&quot; sound, most fun! the =
sad reality is that i still haven&#39;t set the </div>
<div>intonation on the thing! too lazy, took me 4 days to get it wired. i&#=
39;m slow....and i need to get the whammy bar set right and ON IT-no whammy=
ing by me, which i miss!!!</div>
<div>oh well. i set my soundclick page up to mimic my old mp3 page, when th=
ere was another scott hansen, i came up w/ the creative solution of putting=
 my 1st name inbetween</div>
<div>the letters of my last name. so clever-or it just looks like gobble-de=
-goop of letters. either one is fine. happy looping.</div>
<div>i will say i still love the echolution. best purchase i&#39;ve made in=
 a long time....funny thing i just did the 2 short tests, decided to not re=
cord anything after it, and i thought my</div>
<div>loop i played around w/ after was better than the 1st too. classic. oh=
 well....happy looping....</div>
<div>s---</div>

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Hi folks,

I've posted a video that I am especially happy with on You Tube -- 
the result of a long-distance collaboration with Robert Arkins, a 
composer based in Dublin who contacted me on-line. Robert's vision is 
that the piece will be performed by a primarily acoustic ensemble of 
musicians from behind the screen where the video is projected.

The soundtrack heard here is an electronic realization of the piece. 
It has been a privilege  and a pleasure to work with this music -- I 
consider the electronic version to be a fine piece in its own right, 
and am curious to hear what it is intended to sound like. The music 
is influenced by (among others) early American Minimalism and a style 
called Spectralism, which (as I can best describe it) explores the 
nature of sound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXD7WP9LK0k


BTW Some of my photography can be viewed at 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/
-- 
" Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better."  -- Paul Bley

		Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D.
Video Producer			Image Processing Specialist
Video for your HEAD!			Boris FX
http://www.foryourhead.com		http://www.borisfx.com

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Thank you so much for your detailed and gracious reply.

I cant wait to get home tonight to have a crack with these new commands :)

I also have an addrenalin unit along with a slicer.=20

I think this rebuild is the first that is quiet enough to let me use these =
effects...previously the sound of the slicer slicing  noise just killed its=
 subtlety to me but with some better quality cables and mixer=2C I am armed=
 and ready.

Phill

> Date: Wed=2C 11 May 2011 18:59:49 +0200
> Subject: Re: still asking EDP questions 10 years on...
> From: louie.angulo@googlemail.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=20
> Hey Phill=2C
> i do this all the time using my Adrenalinn slaved to my EDP=2Cwhat i
> basically do is send a stop comand to the Adrenalinn=2Ci believe in the
> Adrenalinns midi implementation ti would be Controller # 80
> then bring back the EDP by sending some of those cool  virtual comands
> like QuantMIDIStartSong or MuteQuantMIDIStartSong among my favorites.
> I can also send a stop comand on both or mute each other while the
> other is going=2Cdo lots fo replacing on the EDPs loop and mess it all
> up=2Crevese it=2Chalf speed it=2Cmultiply it and bring back the groove in
> half time all wth the FCB1010.
> I also use the StartPoint to redefine the loops begining and turn the
> beat around.
> however i only use one EDP=2Cstereo is to much of a gamble when doing
> tight groovy stuff like that.
> Tight groovy stuff=2Creliable and lots of fun!
> Luis
>=20
> On Wed=2C May 11=2C 2011 at 12:27 PM=2C phillip wilson
> <phillwilson@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi all=2C
> >
> > As the title says=2C I am in awe of how after all this time=2C I am STI=
LL being
> > challenge by / and challenging my EDP's
> >
> > in my latest build I have stripped away 1 of my three echoplexes and pu=
t it
> > on its own board with its own controller... this has allowed me to spac=
e out
> > my FCB1010s midi notes a little as it it now only controlling two EDPs
> >
> > so..... question time....I am looking for the ability to press a FCB101=
0
> > button to send out the following from my EDP......
> >
> >
> > Mute/Stop all external hardware whilst  continuing my EDP loop.
> >
> > basically I would love a button press to do the opposite of one of my
> > favourate techniques which is muting the echoplex whilst leaving the dr=
um
> > machine running and then at the correct time BANG dropping the loop bac=
k in.
> >
> > also if I can send such a command as the one above=2C would it still be
> > syncronised (I am imagining if its "muted" it WILL be but if its "Stopp=
ed" I
> > will have to rely on my own timing otherwise it will be in "sync" but n=
ot
> > neccicarily in "allignment"
> >
> >
> > thanks in advance for all your help.
> >
> >
> > Phill MyOneManBand
> >
> > See my sets here -
> > http://www.youtube.com/user/phillwilson?feature=3Dmhum#p/a/u/0/Wgkx3tNZ=
hco
> >
> >
> >
>=20
>=20
>=20
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 is the first that is quiet enough to let me use these effects...previously=
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g<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B challenge by / and challenging my EDP's<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B=
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r... this has allowed me to space out<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B my FCB1010s midi not=
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Thanks for sharing Dr. T.

Cool vid, neat-o FX, and interesting music.

So much so, I felt compelled to visit the Boris FX site.

Happy trails.

Ted

On May 11, 2011, at 9:39 PM, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I've posted a video that I am especially happy with on You Tube --  
> the result of a long-distance collaboration with Robert Arkins, a  
> composer based in Dublin who contacted me on-line. Robert's vision  
> is that the piece will be performed by a primarily acoustic ensemble  
> of musicians from behind the screen where the video is projected.
>
> The soundtrack heard here is an electronic realization of the piece.  
> It has been a privilege  and a pleasure to work with this music -- I  
> consider the electronic version to be a fine piece in its own right,  
> and am curious to hear what it is intended to sound like. The music  
> is influenced by (among others) early American Minimalism and a  
> style called Spectralism, which (as I can best describe it) explores  
> the nature of sound.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXD7WP9LK0k
>
>
> BTW Some of my photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/
> -- 
> " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better."  -- Paul Bley
>
> 		Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D.
> Video Producer			Image Processing Specialist
> Video for your HEAD!			Boris FX
> http://www.foryourhead.com		http://www.borisfx.com

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Hi all,
after a long time sitting in my desk, my album "Weightless" in now on
bandcamp.
I've searched for a label interested in a release of it, but..it seems that
this album
is considered less then a shit.

I decided to put it on bandcamp today, for a tragic reason that I want to
share with
my beloved list.
Last winter I formed a trio that involved Virginia Splendore
- that probably some of you stickist will know - as the stick player
and a percussionist.
Virginia liked my Weightless album and she wanted that I quit
loosing my time and put that album on the internet.
On a day, she sent me a song from that album with a lovely
freetless bass added by her.
Now she died and I cannot describe how I feel.
Today coming back from the funeral, the only idea bouncing in my head was:
"ok, Virna, I'll do it !" ...and I've done it (while I'm still struggling
searching
on my hard drives and computers that files where she played...)

...that said this album doesn't contain precomposed compositions, it's just
collection of glitch ambient
music freely improvised following the "mood" of the Alva Noto-Sakamoto
works.
For those who are interested, the set-up here is Bidule and Mobius VST and
fxs pre and post looper. DB glitch plugin is clearly recognizable
It's just looping, tons of ...

http://eterogeneo.bandcamp.com/

-fabio
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<div>Hi all, </div>
<div>after a long time sitting in my desk, my album &quot;Weightless&quot; =
in now on bandcamp.</div>
<div>I&#39;ve searched for a label interested in a release of it, but..it s=
eems that this album </div>
<div>is considered less then a shit.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>I decided to put it on bandcamp today, for a tragic reason that I want=
=A0to share with </div>
<div>my beloved list.=A0=A0</div>
<div>Last winter I formed a trio=A0that=A0involved Virginia Splendore </div=
>
<div>- that probably some of you stickist will know -=A0as the stick player=
=A0</div>
<div>and a percussionist.=A0</div>
<div>Virginia=A0liked my Weightless album and she wanted that I=A0quit </di=
v>
<div>loosing my time and put that album on the internet.</div>
<div>On a day, she sent me a song from that album with a lovely </div>
<div>freetless bass added by her.</div>
<div>Now she died and=A0I cannot describe how I feel.</div>
<div>Today coming back from the=A0funeral, the only idea bouncing in my hea=
d was: </div>
<div>&quot;ok, Virna, I&#39;ll do it !&quot; ...and I&#39;ve done it (while=
 I&#39;m still struggling searching </div>
<div>on my hard drives and computers that files where she played...)</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>...that said this album doesn&#39;t contain precomposed compositions, =
it&#39;s just collection of glitch ambient </div>
<div>music freely improvised=A0following the &quot;mood&quot; of the Alva N=
oto-Sakamoto works.</div>
<div>For those who are interested, the set-up here is Bidule and Mobius VST=
 and </div>
<div>fxs pre and post looper. DB glitch plugin is clearly recognizable</div=
>
<div>It&#39;s just looping, tons of ...</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://eterogeneo.bandcamp.com/">http://eterogeneo.bandcamp=
.com/</a></div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>-fabio</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.eterogeneo.com/">www.eterogeneo.com</a></div>

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Anyone selling a little half rack EQ killer?
I saw one one Craigs list today Bro.
  I loved using the Repeater though it was a flawed beast sure was fun  
to use as a melotron though, particularly using my GR30's  arpeggiator  
to turn drones in to sequences via midi, I have yet to try that  
technique yet with the Looperlative but I believe its possible now. I  
don't miss the technique that much because it was limited pretty much  
to playing in the key of C to get the most range from the repeater  
which mapped standard track speed as midi# note middle C with and  
octave up or two octaves down (if memory serves me, which lately it  
hasn't :-)) and I got tired of that limitation.  Now if I were doing a  
more abstract thing all of that midi note mellotron capability becomes  
a really amazing thing.
Bill
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though, particularly using my GR30's &nbsp;arpeggiator to turn drones in =
to sequences via midi, I have yet to try that technique yet with the =
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that much because it was limited pretty much to playing in the key of C =
to get the most range from the repeater which mapped standard track =
speed as midi# note middle C with and octave up or two octaves down (if =
memory serves me, which lately it hasn't :-)) and I got tired of that =
limitation. &nbsp;Now if I were doing a more abstract thing all of that =
midi note mellotron capability becomes a really amazing =
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Got any recorded examples?

Kevin


On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 4:23 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wr=
ote:
> Anyone selling a little half rack EQ killer?
> I saw one one Craigs list today Bro.
> =A0I loved using the Repeater though it was a flawed beast sure was fun t=
o use
> as a melotron though, particularly using my GR30's =A0arpeggiator to turn
> drones in to sequences via midi, I have yet to try that technique yet wit=
h
> the Looperlative but I believe its possible now. I don't miss the techniq=
ue
> that much because it was limited pretty much to playing in the key of C t=
o
> get the most range from the repeater which mapped standard track speed as
> midi# note middle C with and octave up or two octaves down (if memory ser=
ves
> me, which lately it hasn't :-)) and I got tired of that limitation. =A0No=
w if
> I were doing a more abstract thing all of that midi note mellotron
> capability becomes a really amazing thing.
> Bill



--=20
Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org
Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos

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I used a MIDI Sequencer connected to my Repeater's MIDI In port to
"pitch stutter" the loops. Cool sound, but too bulky in many ways.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub



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ote:
> Anyone selling a little half rack EQ killer?
> I saw one one Craigs list today Bro.
> =C2=A0I loved using the Repeater though it was a flawed beast sure was fu=
n to use
> as a melotron though, particularly using my GR30's =C2=A0arpeggiator to t=
urn
> drones in to sequences via midi, I have yet to try that technique yet wit=
h
> the Looperlative but I believe its possible now. I don't miss the techniq=
ue
> that much because it was limited pretty much to playing in the key of C t=
o
> get the most range from the repeater which mapped standard track speed as
> midi# note middle C with and octave up or two octaves down (if memory ser=
ves
> me, which lately it hasn't :-)) and I got tired of that limitation. =C2=
=A0Now if
> I were doing a more abstract thing all of that midi note mellotron
> capability becomes a really amazing thing.
> Bill

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I enjoyed this alot thanks Emile,
Bill

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Yes thanks for reminding me Bill!

Emile, i watched this first thing this morning, it was a great way to start
the day thanks!

Jeff

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> I enjoyed this alot thanks Emile,
> Bill
>
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Yes thanks for reminding me Bill!<br><br>Emile, i watched this first thing =
this morning, it was a great way to start the day thanks!<br><br>Jeff<br><b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:02 PM, William Walke=
r <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:billwalker@baymoon.com">billwalke=
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
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ot thanks Emile,<br>
Bill<br>
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Loved it, thanks!

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 9:39 PM, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)
<emile@foryourhead.com> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I've posted a video that I am especially happy with on You Tube -- the
> result of a long-distance collaboration with Robert Arkins, a composer ba=
sed
> in Dublin who contacted me on-line. Robert's vision is that the piece wil=
l
> be performed by a primarily acoustic ensemble of musicians from behind th=
e
> screen where the video is projected.
>
> The soundtrack heard here is an electronic realization of the piece. It h=
as
> been a privilege =A0and a pleasure to work with this music -- I consider =
the
> electronic version to be a fine piece in its own right, and am curious to
> hear what it is intended to sound like. The music is influenced by (among
> others) early American Minimalism and a style called Spectralism, which (=
as
> I can best describe it) explores the nature of sound.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DBXD7WP9LK0k
>
>
> BTW Some of my photography can be viewed at
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/
> --
> " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." =A0-- Paul Bley
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D.
> Video Producer =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Image Processing Specia=
list
> Video for your HEAD! =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Boris FX
> http://www.foryourhead.com =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://www.borisfx.=
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>
>



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Thanks to all for the kind remarks.

At 8:13 PM -0700 5/12/11, Art Simon wrote:
>Loved it, thanks!
>
>On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 9:39 PM, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)
><emile@foryourhead.com> wrote:
>>  Hi folks,
>>
>>  I've posted a video that I am especially happy with on You Tube -- the
>>  result of a long-distance collaboration with Robert Arkins, a composer based
>>  in Dublin who contacted me on-line. Robert's vision is that the piece will
>>  be performed by a primarily acoustic ensemble of musicians from behind the
>>  screen where the video is projected.
>>
>>  The soundtrack heard here is an electronic realization of the piece. It has
>>  been a privilege  and a pleasure to work with this music -- I consider the
>>  electronic version to be a fine piece in its own right, and am curious to
>>  hear what it is intended to sound like. The music is influenced by (among
>>  others) early American Minimalism and a style called Spectralism, which (as
>>  I can best describe it) explores the nature of sound.
>>
>>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXD7WP9LK0k
>>
>>
>>  BTW Some of my photography can be viewed at
>>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/
>>  --
>>  " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better."  -- Paul Bley
>>
>>                 Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D.
>>  Video Producer                  Image Processing Specialist
>>  Video for your HEAD!                    Boris FX
>>  http://www.foryourhead.com              http://www.borisfx.com
>>
>>
>
>
>
>--
>Art Simon
>simart@gmail.com
>myspace [dot] com/artsimon


-- 
"My destination is always the same, but I work out a different route 
to get there"  -- Henri Matisse

My photography can be viewed at 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/

My videos can be viewed at
http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld

		Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D.
Video Producer and Digital Photographer	Image Processing Specialist
Video for your HEAD!			Boris FX
http://www.foryourhead.com		http://www.borisfx.com

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Hey Loopers

I'm a bit of a newbie to looping, been playing forever though...=20

I am happily drowning in the EDP (Loop IV) last few weeks, my goodness =
what fun.=20

Anyone know how to get it to take time/beats from Logic Pro 8? Neither =
manual (Logic, EDP) is any help at all... and I'm a MIDI noob as well :(=20=


Thanks !

Phil :)


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Anyone selling a little half rack EQ killer?

Hey Kevin,i believe i still have one in San Diego contact me offlist
if u are interested.
cheers
Luis

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 1:23 AM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wr=
ote:
> Anyone selling a little half rack EQ killer?
> I saw one one Craigs list today Bro.
> =A0I loved using the Repeater though it was a flawed beast sure was fun t=
o use
> as a melotron though, particularly using my GR30's =A0arpeggiator to turn
> drones in to sequences via midi, I have yet to try that technique yet wit=
h
> the Looperlative but I believe its possible now. I don't miss the techniq=
ue
> that much because it was limited pretty much to playing in the key of C t=
o
> get the most range from the repeater which mapped standard track speed as
> midi# note middle C with and octave up or two octaves down (if memory ser=
ves
> me, which lately it hasn't :-)) and I got tired of that limitation. =A0No=
w if
> I were doing a more abstract thing all of that midi note mellotron
> capability becomes a really amazing thing.
> Bill



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hey gang,
Im looking for some desktop stands for my JBL studio monitors,they sit
too low and id like to raise them about 15 to 20 cm from the surface
of my desk.
There are a lot of monitor stands all the way form the floor but i
dont have much space to have them,most of those have very wide feet.
is there anything out there you can recomend?
thanx
Luis


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i don't see it fabio...is it still "hidden"?

On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Fabio_A <eterogenus@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
> after a long time sitting in my desk, my album "Weightless" in now on
> bandcamp.
>
>

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i don&#39;t see it fabio...is it still &quot;hidden&quot;?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Fabio_A <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:eterogenus@gmail.com">eterogenus@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div>Hi all, </div>
<div>after a long time sitting in my desk, my album &quot;Weightless&quot; in now on bandcamp.</div>
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thanks bill!

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> So beautiful!
>  Thanks Sim
> Bill
>
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thanks bill!<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 4:42=
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So beautiful!<br>
=A0Thanks Sim<br>
Bill<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br>

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With great apologies for unfathomable tardiness 
I'm very pleased to present an example of Bill Walker 
using the exact technique he describes below.

http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/guest/BillWalker-MusicBox.mp3


This is a brief track called Music Box, chosen by Bill as
being illustrative.
It comes from a (much played) CD which Bill brought along to
trade at the 2005 Zurich loopfest.
At the risk of creating unrequited audio lust I can reveal
that it's a great sounding cd of guitar looping full of
the usual Bill innovation and melodiousness, and it
shows heavy use of that technique in several tracks.


As far as I know the LP1 does not respond to midi notes to change
track speed . For compatibility with the LP1 "midi-learn" 
philosophy it responds to CC and ProgCh, with each
semitone step having to be programmed by the user.

It would be possible to generate a sequence of ProgCh
commands with the Gordius LG to create an arpeggio
of pitches (over 2 octaves if you also used halfSpeed),
..but it would mean first programming the LG with
a bank or so of midi ProgCh (temporarily) just in
order to program the Lp1.
(I haven't tried the  LP1Mixer application yet, 
 ...available from the forum...it may provide an
  easier programming method)

Having done that the sound would be somewhat different,
as the LP1 doesn't have the glide between pitches that
the Repeater does, and the LP1 rate shift is "digital lo-fi"
in a fairly harsh way.

The Echoloop VST doesn't have this feature either, although
this is for reasons keeping it similar to the EDP.
Future software from Matthias will have rate change triggerable
by midi note, and could have the glide between pitches if that
was wanted by users.

andy butler




William Walker wrote:

>  I loved using the Repeater though it was a flawed beast sure was fun to 
> use as a melotron though, particularly using my GR30's  arpeggiator to 
> turn drones in to sequences via midi, I have yet to try that technique 
> yet with the Looperlative but I believe its possible now. I don't miss 
> the technique that much because it was limited pretty much to playing in 
> the key of C to get the most range from the repeater which mapped 
> standard track speed as midi# note middle C with and octave up or two 
> octaves down (if memory serves me, which lately it hasn't :-)) and I got 
> tired of that limitation.  Now if I were doing a more abstract thing all 
> of that midi note mellotron capability becomes a really amazing thing. 
> Bill

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>From the EDP side,

the parameters you need to set are

Sync=In

8th/Cycle=....as required.

andy butler

Phil Clevenger wrote:
> Hey Loopers
> 
> I'm a bit of a newbie to looping, been playing forever though... 
> 
> I am happily drowning in the EDP (Loop IV) last few weeks, my goodness what fun. 
> 
> Anyone know how to get it to take time/beats from Logic Pro 8? Neither manual (Logic, EDP) is any help at all... and I'm a MIDI noob as well :( 
> 
> Thanks !
> 
> Phil :)
> 
> 
> 

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house bricks

Louie Angulo wrote:
> hey gang,
> Im looking for some desktop stands for my JBL studio monitors,they sit
> too low and id like to raise them about 15 to 20 cm from the surface
> of my desk.
> There are a lot of monitor stands all the way form the floor but i
> dont have much space to have them,most of those have very wide feet.
> is there anything out there you can recomend?
> thanx
> Luis
> 
> 

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On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Simeon Harris
<simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
> i don't see it fabio...is it still "hidden"?

I can chime in here that it was "un-hidden" for a short while
yesterday. When I clicked the link right after Fabios' post I was able
to listen through the album once. On replay it was gone though, and
still is. Sounded great!

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub

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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote:
> http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/guest/BillWalker-MusicBox.mp3
>
>
> This is a brief track called Music Box, chosen by Bill as
> being illustrative.
> It comes from a (much played) CD which Bill brought along to
> trade at the 2005 Zurich loopfest.
> At the risk of creating unrequited audio lust I can reveal
> that it's a great sounding cd of guitar looping
God, this is a beautiful track Bill!

I know you aren't currently using this technique but it's so beautiful 
and idiosyncratic that
I hope you might consider putting out at least an EP of this type of 
material from your vaults.
I too listened to the promo CD you brought to Zurich and think it's a 
releasable
product.    Beautiful stuff!

rick walker

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i second that!

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 10:15 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>wrote:

house bricks
>
>
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i second that!<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 10:15 AM, andy butler <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk">akbutler@tiscali.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:</div><div class="gmail_quote">
<br></div><div class="gmail_quote">house bricks<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><br></blockquote></div>

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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Fabio_A wrote:
> Hi all,
> after a long time sitting in my desk, my album "Weightless" in now on 
> bandcamp.
> I've searched for a label interested in a release of it, but..it seems 
> that this album
> is considered less then a shit.
Dearest brother Fabio,

The music business has changed so much in the past five years that it 
has become extraordinarily
difficult for small record labels to make money from selling CDs.   The 
profit margins from digital
downloads also preclude much income stream.

PLEASE do not lose heart that you didn't find a label interested in 
releasing your beautiful work.
It doesn't reflect on your work in the slightest.   It just reflects the 
state of disarray that the music
business is in, currently.

We may have to find new ways of selling our artistry.   I used to sell 
20-50 CDs everytime I played solo
and now I don't sell any.......it's a new world,  but we mustn't let it 
discourage us from sharing our artistry
with the world and with our communities.

Anyway,  I went to buy a copy from your bandcamp site but it is not 
listed there yet,  or , if it is,
I cannot find it.

Please let us know how we can pay to download it.  It would be great if 
you had downloadable artwork as well.

yours,    Rick Walker

ps   I"m so sorry to hear about the death of your friend.   How did she die?

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> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Fabio_A wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>> after a long time sitting in my desk, my album "Weightless" in now on
>> bandcamp.
>> I've searched for a label interested in a release of it, but..it seems
>> that this album
>> is considered less then a shit.

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
> We may have to find new ways of selling our artistry. =C2=A0 I used to se=
ll 20-50
> CDs everytime I played solo
> and now I don't sell any.......it's a new world, =C2=A0but we mustn't let=
 it
> discourage us from sharing our artistry
> with the world and with our communities.

Let me chime in here; it's a new world and people just don't buy
music! When Erdem and I played in Paris recently we had 600 people in
the audience and sold only one CD! That was a bit chocking as many
told us they loved the concert and the surround sound.

Also, when a record label rejects a submitted master recording it is
not because they think the music sucks, it is because they can't see a
market for the product. Selling music just isn't a working business
model. The reason the market is fragmented is the fact that more
people are listening to more different kinds of music - and that is a
good thing for art and music! But the downside is that within each sub
genre there won't be enough buyers to provide a brake-even of
recording and CD production costs.

Yesterday The Cynical Musician posted a blog text that talks about this:
http://thecynicalmusician.com/2011/05/the-minimum-sustainable-scale/

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub

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brix rox!

p ;-)



On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Simeon Harris
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> i second that!
>
> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 10:15 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
> wrote:
> house bricks
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Thanks,
now it is un-hidden....sorry for the mistake

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2011/5/13 Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de>

>  a sad story indeed Fabio. But good that you put Weightless on Bandcamp
> (although it still seems to be hidden), I like the album a lot.  -Michael
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<div>Thanks, </div>
<div>now it is un-hidden....sorry for the mistake</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>-f<br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/5/13 Michael Peters <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<=
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Actually it is rather easy to do similar things with the Electron Octatrack=
. For example i often set it up to capture 4 16th notes and then use the se=
quencer to replay these pitch shifted. It would also be possible to "play" =
the sample via Midi..Here is an example when a capture a short snippet by u=
sing a trigg recorder on the sequencer then playing it back pitch shifted i=
n diffrent amounts (actually the first play back is simultaneous with the n=
otes a play but one octave down)=2C When i like what I hear I take away the=
 trigged recorder and let it loop... http://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/=
machine-taking-over
 I think this and the scenes in the octatrack makes it a GREAT tool.. (I ha=
ve mapped pitch shift to the crossfader which can be heard towards the end =
of this track when i play harmonics while att the same time pitch shifting =
on the octa)
So it the octa may not do waht the repaeter did but it does quite e few nea=
t tricks that could be of use fore a creative musician looking beyond the u=
sual looping stuff..
ANders
> Date: Fri=2C 13 May 2011 10:05:23 +0100
> From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Bill Walkers cool Repeater Trick mp3 Re: electrix
>=20
> With great apologies for unfathomable tardiness=20
> I'm very pleased to present an example of Bill Walker=20
> using the exact technique he describes below.
>=20
> http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/guest/BillWalker-MusicBox.mp3
>=20
>=20
> This is a brief track called Music Box=2C chosen by Bill as
> being illustrative.
> It comes from a (much played) CD which Bill brought along to
> trade at the 2005 Zurich loopfest.
> At the risk of creating unrequited audio lust I can reveal
> that it's a great sounding cd of guitar looping full of
> the usual Bill innovation and melodiousness=2C and it
> shows heavy use of that technique in several tracks.
>=20
>=20
> As far as I know the LP1 does not respond to midi notes to change
> track speed . For compatibility with the LP1 "midi-learn"=20
> philosophy it responds to CC and ProgCh=2C with each
> semitone step having to be programmed by the user.
>=20
> It would be possible to generate a sequence of ProgCh
> commands with the Gordius LG to create an arpeggio
> of pitches (over 2 octaves if you also used halfSpeed)=2C
> ..but it would mean first programming the LG with
> a bank or so of midi ProgCh (temporarily) just in
> order to program the Lp1.
> (I haven't tried the  LP1Mixer application yet=2C=20
>  ...available from the forum...it may provide an
>   easier programming method)
>=20
> Having done that the sound would be somewhat different=2C
> as the LP1 doesn't have the glide between pitches that
> the Repeater does=2C and the LP1 rate shift is "digital lo-fi"
> in a fairly harsh way.
>=20
> The Echoloop VST doesn't have this feature either=2C although
> this is for reasons keeping it similar to the EDP.
> Future software from Matthias will have rate change triggerable
> by midi note=2C and could have the glide between pitches if that
> was wanted by users.
>=20
> andy butler
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> William Walker wrote:
>=20
> >  I loved using the Repeater though it was a flawed beast sure was fun t=
o=20
> > use as a melotron though=2C particularly using my GR30's  arpeggiator t=
o=20
> > turn drones in to sequences via midi=2C I have yet to try that techniqu=
e=20
> > yet with the Looperlative but I believe its possible now. I don't miss=
=20
> > the technique that much because it was limited pretty much to playing i=
n=20
> > the key of C to get the most range from the repeater which mapped=20
> > standard track speed as midi# note middle C with and octave up or two=20
> > octaves down (if memory serves me=2C which lately it hasn't :-)) and I =
got=20
> > tired of that limitation.  Now if I were doing a more abstract thing al=
l=20
> > of that midi note mellotron capability becomes a really amazing thing.=
=20
> > Bill
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<font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">Actually it is =
rather easy to do similar things with the Electron Octatrack. For example i=
 often set it up to capture 4 16th notes and then use the sequencer to repl=
ay these pitch shifted. It would also be possible to "play" the sample via =
Midi..</font><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"=
2">Here is an example when a capture a short snippet by using a trigg recor=
der on the sequencer then playing it back pitch shifted in diffrent amounts=
 (actually the first play back is&nbsp=3Bsimultaneous&nbsp=3Bwith the notes=
 a play but one octave down)=2C When i like what I hear I take away the tri=
gged recorder and let it loop...&nbsp=3B</font></div><div><font class=3D"Ap=
ple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><a href=3D"http://soundcloud.com=
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face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><br></font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style=
-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><a href=3D"http://soundcloud.com/anders-b=
ergdahl/machine-taking-over"></a><i>&nbsp=3B</i>I think this and the scenes=
 in the octatrack makes it a GREAT tool.. (I have mapped pitch shift to the=
 crossfader which can be heard towards the end of this track when i play ha=
rmonics while att the same time pitch shifting on the octa)</font></div><di=
v><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><br></font></=
div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">So it =
the octa may not do waht the repaeter did but it does quite e few neat tric=
ks that could be of use fore a creative musician looking&nbsp=3Bbeyond&nbsp=
=3Bthe usual looping stuff..</font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-sp=
an" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><br></font></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-s=
tyle-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">ANders<br></font><div id=3D"SkyDriveP=
laceholder" style=3D"font-family: Tahoma=3B font-size: 10pt=3B "></div><fon=
t class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B Date: Fri=2C=
 13 May 2011 10:05:23 +0100</font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=
=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk</font><br><font =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B To: Loopers-De=
light@loopers-delight.com</font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=
=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B Subject: Bill Walkers cool Repeater Trick mp3=
 Re: electrix</font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" si=
ze=3D"2">&gt=3B </font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma"=
 size=3D"2">&gt=3B With great apologies for unfathomable tardiness </font><=
br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B I'm v=
ery pleased to present an example of Bill Walker </font><br><font class=3D"=
Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B using the exact techniq=
ue he describes below.</font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"T=
ahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B </font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=
=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/guest/BillWalke=
r-MusicBox.mp3</font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" s=
ize=3D"2">&gt=3B </font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma=
" size=3D"2">&gt=3B </font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tah=
oma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B This is a brief track called Music Box=2C chosen by =
Bill as</font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"=
2">&gt=3B being illustrative.</font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" fa=
ce=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B It comes from a (much played) CD which Bill=
 brought along to</font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma=
" size=3D"2">&gt=3B trade at the 2005 Zurich loopfest.</font><br><font clas=
s=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B At the risk of cre=
ating unrequited audio lust I can reveal</font><br><font class=3D"Apple-sty=
le-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B that it's a great sounding cd of=
 guitar looping full of</font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"=
Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B the usual Bill innovation and melodiousness=2C an=
d it</font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">=
&gt=3B shows heavy use of that technique in several tracks.</font><br><font=
 class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B </font><br><f=
ont class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B </font><br=
><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B As far =
as I know the LP1 does not respond to midi notes to change</font><br><font =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B track speed . =
For compatibility with the LP1 "midi-learn" </font><br><font class=3D"Apple=
-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B philosophy it responds to CC=
 and ProgCh=2C with each</font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D=
"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B semitone step having to be programmed by the use=
r.</font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&g=
t=3B </font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"=
>&gt=3B It would be possible to generate a sequence of ProgCh</font><br><fo=
nt class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B commands wi=
th the Gordius LG to create an arpeggio</font><br><font class=3D"Apple-styl=
e-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B of pitches (over 2 octaves if you=
 also used halfSpeed)=2C</font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D=
"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B ..but it would mean first programming the LG wit=
h</font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=
=3B a bank or so of midi ProgCh (temporarily) just in</font><br><font class=
=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B order to program th=
e Lp1.</font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2=
">&gt=3B (I haven't tried the  LP1Mixer application yet=2C </font><br><font=
 class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B  ...available=
 from the forum...it may provide an</font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-sp=
an" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B   easier programming method)</font><b=
r><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B </font=
><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B Hav=
ing done that the sound would be somewhat different=2C</font><br><font clas=
s=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B as the LP1 doesn't=
 have the glide between pitches that</font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-s=
pan" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B the Repeater does=2C and the LP1 rat=
e shift is "digital lo-fi"</font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=
=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B in a fairly harsh way.</font><br><font class=
=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B </font><br><font cl=
ass=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B The Echoloop VST=
 doesn't have this feature either=2C although</font><br><font class=3D"Appl=
e-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B this is for reasons keeping=
 it similar to the EDP.</font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"=
Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B Future software from Matthias will have rate chan=
ge triggerable</font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" s=
ize=3D"2">&gt=3B by midi note=2C and could have the glide between pitches i=
f that</font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2=
">&gt=3B was wanted by users.</font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" fa=
ce=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B </font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span"=
 face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B andy butler</font><br><font class=3D"App=
le-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B </font><br><font class=3D"=
Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B </font><br><font class=
=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B </font><br><font cl=
ass=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B </font><br><font=
 class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B William Walke=
r wrote:</font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D=
"2">&gt=3B </font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=
=3D"2">&gt=3B &gt=3B  I loved using the Repeater though it was a flawed bea=
st sure was fun to </font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Taho=
ma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B &gt=3B use as a melotron though=2C particularly using=
 my GR30's  arpeggiator to </font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=
=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B &gt=3B turn drones in to sequences via midi=
=2C I have yet to try that technique </font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-=
span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B &gt=3B yet with the Looperlative bu=
t I believe its possible now. I don't miss </font><br><font class=3D"Apple-=
style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B &gt=3B the technique that muc=
h because it was limited pretty much to playing in </font><br><font class=
=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B &gt=3B the key of C=
 to get the most range from the repeater which mapped </font><br><font clas=
s=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B &gt=3B standard tr=
ack speed as midi# note middle C with and octave up or two </font><br><font=
 class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B &gt=3B octave=
s down (if memory serves me=2C which lately it hasn't :-)) and I got </font=
><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B &gt=
=3B tired of that limitation.  Now if I were doing a more abstract thing al=
l </font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">&g=
t=3B &gt=3B of that midi note mellotron capability becomes a really amazing=
 thing. </font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D=
"2">&gt=3B &gt=3B Bill</font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"T=
ahoma" size=3D"2">&gt=3B </font><br></div> 		 	   		  </body>
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saw Kim Cascone's Dell Netbook yesterday and thought, I want one too, for
looping and travelling. But would it have enough power (under Windows - I'm
a Windows user) to run Bidule and a whole bunch of plugins that are
occasionally almost too much for my larger Vaio? those netbooks all seem to
have 1.6GHz and an Atom processor and a friend said he thinks it would be
too weak for music purposes. Any experiences anyone?

-Michael

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Dear Fabio,

thank you for the beautiful music!

Virginia was one of the first Stickists I exchanged e-mails with, when I was
new to the Stick. Although it were only a few, I found that she was a very
sweet person, and I will remember her that way. So sad.

Johannes


2011/5/12 Fabio_A <eterogenus@gmail.com>

> Hi all,
> after a long time sitting in my desk, my album "Weightless" in now on
> bandcamp.
> I've searched for a label interested in a release of it, but..it seems that
> this album
> is considered less then a shit.
>
> I decided to put it on bandcamp today, for a tragic reason that I want to
> share with
> my beloved list.
> Last winter I formed a trio that involved Virginia Splendore
> - that probably some of you stickist will know - as the stick player
> and a percussionist.
> Virginia liked my Weightless album and she wanted that I quit
> loosing my time and put that album on the internet.
> On a day, she sent me a song from that album with a lovely
> freetless bass added by her.
> Now she died and I cannot describe how I feel.
> Today coming back from the funeral, the only idea bouncing in my head was:
> "ok, Virna, I'll do it !" ...and I've done it (while I'm still struggling
> searching
> on my hard drives and computers that files where she played...)
>
> ...that said this album doesn't contain precomposed compositions, it's just
> collection of glitch ambient
> music freely improvised following the "mood" of the Alva Noto-Sakamoto
> works.
> For those who are interested, the set-up here is Bidule and Mobius VST and
> fxs pre and post looper. DB glitch plugin is clearly recognizable
> It's just looping, tons of ...
>
> http://eterogeneo.bandcamp.com/
>
> -fabio
> www.eterogeneo.com
>



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Dear Fabio,<div><br></div><div>thank you for the beautiful music!</div><div=
><br></div><div>Virginia was one of the first Stickists I exchanged e-mails=
 with, when I was new to the Stick. Although it were only a few, I found th=
at she was a very sweet person, and I will remember her that way. So sad.</=
div>
<div><br></div><div>Johannes=A0</div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
">2011/5/12 Fabio_A <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eterogenus@gmai=
l.com">eterogenus@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex=
;">
<div>Hi all, </div>
<div>after a long time sitting in my desk, my album &quot;Weightless&quot; =
in now on bandcamp.</div>
<div>I&#39;ve searched for a label interested in a release of it, but..it s=
eems that this album </div>
<div>is considered less then a shit.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>I decided to put it on bandcamp today, for a tragic reason that I want=
=A0to share with </div>
<div>my beloved list.=A0=A0</div>
<div>Last winter I formed a trio=A0that=A0involved Virginia Splendore </div=
>
<div>- that probably some of you stickist will know -=A0as the stick player=
=A0</div>
<div>and a percussionist.=A0</div>
<div>Virginia=A0liked my Weightless album and she wanted that I=A0quit </di=
v>
<div>loosing my time and put that album on the internet.</div>
<div>On a day, she sent me a song from that album with a lovely </div>
<div>freetless bass added by her.</div>
<div>Now she died and=A0I cannot describe how I feel.</div>
<div>Today coming back from the=A0funeral, the only idea bouncing in my hea=
d was: </div>
<div>&quot;ok, Virna, I&#39;ll do it !&quot; ...and I&#39;ve done it (while=
 I&#39;m still struggling searching </div>
<div>on my hard drives and computers that files where she played...)</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>...that said this album doesn&#39;t contain precomposed compositions, =
it&#39;s just collection of glitch ambient </div>
<div>music freely improvised=A0following the &quot;mood&quot; of the Alva N=
oto-Sakamoto works.</div>
<div>For those who are interested, the set-up here is Bidule and Mobius VST=
 and </div>
<div>fxs pre and post looper. DB glitch plugin is clearly recognizable</div=
>
<div>It&#39;s just looping, tons of ...</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://eterogeneo.bandcamp.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://e=
terogeneo.bandcamp.com/</a></div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>-fabio</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.eterogeneo.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.eterogene=
o.com</a></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div><a href=3D"mailto:=
jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com" target=3D"_blank">jenko.nashorn@googlemail.co=
m</a></div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/nashorn" target=3D"_blank">www.myspa=
ce.com/nashorn</a></div><br>
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I've got a friend (Cult of Zir) who uses a netbook in conjunction with a
mic/few hardware fx, and my wife has had a netbook as well.

CoZ does do some minimal looping/vst fx on the netbook buy yeah, those
things are not made for real audio work at all.  I'd say it would work as
couple/few loopers and maybe just a few non intensive vsts.  So I'd say
they're good for a cheap addition to your setup, but definitely not a
replacement for your Vaio.

-nn
happyhumans.org

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 4:03 AM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:

> saw Kim Cascone's Dell Netbook yesterday and thought, I want one too, for
> looping and travelling. But would it have enough power (under Windows - I'm
> a Windows user) to run Bidule and a whole bunch of plugins that are
> occasionally almost too much for my larger Vaio? those netbooks all seem to
> have 1.6GHz and an Atom processor and a friend said he thinks it would be
> too weak for music purposes. Any experiences anyone?
>
> -Michael
>
>

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I&#39;ve got a friend (Cult of Zir) who uses a netbook in conjunction with =
a mic/few hardware fx, and my wife has had a netbook as well.<br><br>CoZ do=
es do some minimal looping/vst fx on the netbook buy yeah, those things are=
 not made for real audio work at all.=A0 I&#39;d say it would work as coupl=
e/few loopers and maybe just a few non intensive vsts.=A0 So I&#39;d say th=
ey&#39;re good for a cheap addition to your setup, but definitely not a rep=
lacement for your Vaio.<br>
<br>-nn<br><a href=3D"http://happyhumans.org">happyhumans.org</a><br><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 4:03 AM, Michael Peters <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mp@mpeters.de">mp@mpeters.de</a>&gt;<=
/span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">saw Kim Cascone&#=
39;s Dell Netbook yesterday and thought, I want one too, for<br>
looping and travelling. But would it have enough power (under Windows - I&#=
39;m<br>
a Windows user) to run Bidule and a whole bunch of plugins that are<br>
occasionally almost too much for my larger Vaio? those netbooks all seem to=
<br>
have 1.6GHz and an Atom processor and a friend said he thinks it would be<b=
r>
too weak for music purposes. Any experiences anyone?<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
-Michael<br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>

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Subject: Re: Bill Walkers cool Repeater Trick mp3 Re: electrix
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On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Anders Bergdahl
<anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Actually it is rather easy to do similar things with the Electron Octatrack.

No doubts, that's kind of what that thing was designed for! But I
didn't know the the Octatrack allows you to set pitch glissando -
that's cool! With the Repeater the glissandi just happened because its
CPU was constantly lagging behind in calculations . LOL!!! But it
sounded cool. I'd like to note too that these techniques can be used
on a laptop looping system as well; especially if using Augustus Loop
because this one has the parameter named "Inertia" that causes
glissando when you play the loops speed/pitch by external MIDI notes
(MIDI guitar, EWI, keyboard, seqyencer or whatever...). If looping in
Mobius this is also possible but you can't have glissando between the
notes in the pattern. However, I kind of like the rough'n'glitchy
sound of that too.

A related software plugin is the StutterEdit, designed by BT and
distributed by http://izotope.com/. I've recently started to use
StutterEdit after the looper in the signal chain and it amazes me with
almost no detectable extra CPU usage on my machine. One exciting idea
I have for StutterEdit is to load it with my own scripts that does
tonal warping rather than that typical "glitched drum beat thing" we
have heard for a decade now. Not sure if that is possible yet though
and my researching time is kind of limited so this is a long time
project.

Per

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Thanks for the Update Rick, I too pre-ordered and had only one question as I
can be patient.  I was curious about specs, size that is as I am thinking of
getting a pedal board to put it on along with some other pedals I use.  If
you do know the dimensions please respond otherwise I will wait for the
looper to arrive.  Anticipation is a great thing!

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Matt Davignon wrote:
>
>> Has anyone heard a peep about the shipping date? I pre-ordered one.
>> Last I heard was "March".
>>
>> Essentially, we Bob was shooting for March 1st,  but his father became
> seriously ill and
> then passed away in December and with travelling back east to the funeral
> and everything
> else that comes up when we finally lose a beloved partent,  it set the
> whole process back
> considerably.
>
> I know he is very close.    He's already fixed all the hardware issues of
> the first prototypes
> and almost every software issue (I've been beta testing for him as well).
>
> I know he's working very, very hard on it, every day and it's his number
> one priority to
> get it out, so be assured of that.
>
> It's just tough sometimes, when one tries to be an entire company, and have
> a 40 hour job
> and lead a large family as Bob is doing.
>
> Soon come, mon, but we don't want to project a shipping date yet, until
> we're dead certain
> that everything functions effortlessly.
>
> I will tell you this, though,  Matt.   You are going to love some of this
> functionality......
> the 1/4 speed thing......the random retrigger.......midi
> synchronization.......Q replace
> functions are really fun and I'm getting some very creative experimental
> things out
> of the device already.
>
> Rick Walker
>
> ps   if you have any questions about functionality or shipping,  please
> direct all your
> inquiries to me.      I want to help Bob focus on only getting this thing
> shipped
> so I'll take on correspondance for him.
>
> pps  What recent events have also done is to put LP-1 upgrades and fixes on
> a bit of a back
> burner but these things WILL happen,  I promise you.
>
> ppps   Also,   please don't suggest additional feature sets for the
> LP-2.........the unit is finished.  period. point. dot
> My advice if you don't care for the unit or you wish it did something
> different is
>
> 1) don't buy it and
>
> 2) invest in a laptop and run multiple instances of Mobius and Plogue
> Bidule or Ableton's Live and get creative and prepare for the learning curve
> it will take to get that all functioning.........
>
> 3) either this,  or begin designing
> your own looper from scratch.    That's what Bob did.
>
>


-- 
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TheWeg@Verizon.net
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Thanks for the Update Rick, I too pre-ordered and had only one question as =
I can be patient.=A0 I was curious about specs, size that is as I am thinki=
ng of getting a pedal board to put it on along with some other pedals I use=
.=A0 If you do know the dimensions please respond otherwise I will wait for=
 the looper to arrive.=A0 Anticipation is a great thing!<br>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Rick Walker <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:looppool@cruzio.com">looppool@cruzio.=
com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<div class=3D"im">On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Matt Davignon wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Has anyone heard a peep about th=
e shipping date? I pre-ordered one.<br>Last I heard was &quot;March&quot;.<=
br>
<br></blockquote></div>Essentially, we Bob was shooting for March 1st, =A0b=
ut his father became seriously ill and<br>then passed away in December and =
with travelling back east to the funeral and everything<br>else that comes =
up when we finally lose a beloved partent, =A0it set the whole process back=
<br>
considerably.<br><br>I know he is very close. =A0 =A0He&#39;s already fixed=
 all the hardware issues of the first prototypes<br>and almost every softwa=
re issue (I&#39;ve been beta testing for him as well).<br><br>I know he&#39=
;s working very, very hard on it, every day and it&#39;s his number one pri=
ority to<br>
get it out, so be assured of that.<br><br>It&#39;s just tough sometimes, wh=
en one tries to be an entire company, and have a 40 hour job<br>and lead a =
large family as Bob is doing.<br><br>Soon come, mon, but we don&#39;t want =
to project a shipping date yet, until we&#39;re dead certain<br>
that everything functions effortlessly.<br><br>I will tell you this, though=
, =A0Matt. =A0 You are going to love some of this functionality......<br>th=
e 1/4 speed thing......the random retrigger.......midi synchronization.....=
..Q replace<br>
functions are really fun and I&#39;m getting some very creative experimenta=
l things out<br>of the device already.<br><br>Rick Walker<br><br>ps =A0 if =
you have any questions about functionality or shipping, =A0please direct al=
l your<br>
inquiries to me. =A0 =A0 =A0I want to help Bob focus on only getting this t=
hing shipped<br>so I&#39;ll take on correspondance for him.<br><br>pps =A0W=
hat recent events have also done is to put LP-1 upgrades and fixes on a bit=
 of a back<br>
burner but these things WILL happen, =A0I promise you.<br><br>ppps =A0 Also=
, =A0 please don&#39;t suggest additional feature sets for the LP-2........=
.the unit is finished. =A0period. point. dot<br>My advice if you don&#39;t =
care for the unit or you wish it did something different is<br>
<br>1) don&#39;t buy it and<br><br>2) invest in a laptop and run multiple i=
nstances of Mobius and Plogue Bidule or Ableton&#39;s Live and get creative=
 and prepare for the learning curve it will take to get that all functionin=
g.........<br>
<br>3) either this, =A0or begin designing<br>your own looper from scratch. =
=A0 =A0That&#39;s what Bob did.<br><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"=
all"><br>-- <br>Greg Wegmann<br><br>TheWeg@Verizon.net <br>TheWeg@GMail.com=
<br>
<br>

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The Alienware M11x is roughly the size of a netbook, but actually has
plenty of horsepower for digital audio. I've been thinking of getting
one myself:
http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-m11x/pd?refid=alienware-m11x&cs=19&s=dhs&st=alienware%20m11x&dgc=ST&cid=52212&lid=1344047&acd=sc2CV3xMB,7340767150,901pdb6671

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 4:03 AM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
> saw Kim Cascone's Dell Netbook yesterday and thought, I want one too, for
> looping and travelling. But would it have enough power (under Windows - I'm
> a Windows user) to run Bidule and a whole bunch of plugins that are
> occasionally almost too much for my larger Vaio? those netbooks all seem to
> have 1.6GHz and an Atom processor and a friend said he thinks it would be
> too weak for music purposes. Any experiences anyone?
>
> -Michael
>
>



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I'm going to take a contrarian view here...

I use two Dell MINI netbooks, one 10" and one 9" that have been
"hackintoshed" (meaning they have been hacked to run Apple's OS X on
them). I am using them pretty extensively for looping and signal
processing, specifically with bidule.

As for the plug-ins, you have to be VERY judicious about what you use.
Because the maximum RAM you can load into them is 2GB, it's pretty
easy to run out of memory. I HAVE used both Alchemy and KORE Player
along with a number of other plugins (again, all w/in bidule) with
some success, but it can go over the line pretty quickly if you aren't
careful.

Considering that these can be had comparatively inexpensively (less
than US$ 200 on ebay). they are actually offering a lot of bang for
the buck. When EchoLoop goes live, they may well be even more useful.

So I'm going with YES YOU CAN! (Just be careful and a tad conservative
with your approach...)

Best,

Dennis

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On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 5:03 AM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
> saw Kim Cascone's Dell Netbook yesterday and thought, I want one too, for
> looping and travelling. But would it have enough power (under Windows - I'm
> a Windows user) to run Bidule and a whole bunch of plugins that are
> occasionally almost too much for my larger Vaio? those netbooks all seem to
> have 1.6GHz and an Atom processor and a friend said he thinks it would be
> too weak for music purposes. Any experiences anyone?
>
> -Michael
>
>

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Wow...just looked at the specs on that puppy, Art!

The biggest problem w/ the netbooks is getting enough RAM into them to
do any work. Looks like this, aside from having to switch to using the
WIndows flavor of all those plugins, would certainly do the trick.

Best,

Dennis

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On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 8:12 AM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Alienware M11x is roughly the size of a netbook, but actually has
> plenty of horsepower for digital audio. I've been thinking of getting
> one myself:
> http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-m11x/pd?refid=alienware-m11x&cs=19&s=dhs&st=alienware%20m11x&dgc=ST&cid=52212&lid=1344047&acd=sc2CV3xMB,7340767150,901pdb6671
>
> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 4:03 AM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
>> saw Kim Cascone's Dell Netbook yesterday and thought, I want one too, for
>> looping and travelling. But would it have enough power (under Windows - I'm
>> a Windows user) to run Bidule and a whole bunch of plugins that are
>> occasionally almost too much for my larger Vaio? those netbooks all seem to
>> have 1.6GHz and an Atom processor and a friend said he thinks it would be
>> too weak for music purposes. Any experiences anyone?
>>
>> -Michael
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Art Simon
> simart@gmail.com
> myspace [dot] com/artsimon
>
>

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Michael Peters schrieb:
> saw Kim Cascone's Dell Netbook yesterday and thought, I want one too, for
> looping and travelling. But would it have enough power (under Windows - I'm
> a Windows user) to run Bidule and a whole bunch of plugins that are
> occasionally almost too much for my larger Vaio? those netbooks all seem to
> have 1.6GHz and an Atom processor and a friend said he thinks it would be
> too weak for music purposes. Any experiences anyone
Phew, there's so many variables!

I'd like to split that into three questions:
a) what is the processing power of current netbooks?
b) how "strong" (to use your use of words) must a computer be to be fit 
for music?
c) any other reasons which might disqualify a netbook for music stuff?

and I'll add d) for reference: my own experiences.

ad a):
the first generation of netbooks had an Atom N270 or sometimes N450 CPU 
- which is quite slow by today's standards. To put it in numbers, if you 
use the passmark (*) (http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php), it's in 
the 300 range (bigger is better). To put that into perspective, typical 
normal-sized notebooks (e.g. 15/16'' display) in the mid price range 
(say, €500-600) come in a range between roughly 1500-2700, and I'd 
assume your larger Vaio may be in that ranger, if it's either a current 
model from that price range or an older model with a higher price tag 
originally.

However, the second generation of netbooks has somewhat more power under 
the hood: in the low price range, they start out with Atom N570 (642) 
and a little higher (we're looking at the €300-350 range now) with a 
Celeron U3400 (940) or X2 Neo (in the 800-1000 range). If you take it 
for comparison towards the prices of the notebooks we looked at before, 
you're moving forward into the 1500 range. That you stay below the much 
higher performance of the notebook-family top performers doesn't come as 
a surprise: with netbooks, low power consumption and low heat 
dissipation are prime requisites even in the "power" class, so you're 
getting equally advanced, but differently optimized CPUs here.

For completeness, if you're willing to spend more than €3k, you also get 
netbooks above a passmark of 3700...

Summarized: even entry-level netbooks of today are much faster than 
those well known first generation models equipped with an Atom N270. 
However, for the more advanced models, the performance-to-price ratio is 
still better for normal-sized computers.

ad b):
perhaps looking at your actual requirements might be possible: what kind 
of CPU/architecture does your mentioned Vaio have, and at which number 
does it come out in comparison to today's netbooks? And do you see a 
possibility to strip down your current setup (e.g. by relying on less 
cpu-intensive plugins)? That's something only you can answer - but the 
performance figure of your current computer would be a good starting 
point. Then turn off anything you don't really need and see where the 
cpu load comes out. Multiply that with you computer's passmark, add a 
safety margin, and compare with the figures from a).

ad c):
if you're using USB peripherals, you should be safe. Care must be taken 
with other things; a lot of netbooks come without an Express slot, those 
which do often have a bad implementation (DPC latency wise), and only a 
few have ieee1394 (and their dpc latency needs to be checked, as well)

Finally d):
started with a Pentium M 2.0 (passmark 503), which ran Ableton Live 4, 
Möbius, several processing plugins (most of them lightweight: Ableton 
reverb, MadShifta, SupaTrigga) and some serious softsynths (Pro53, FM7, 
Kontakt, PPG Wave), and it worked fine - if I always kept in mind to 
turn off plugin x before activating plugin y.
Now I'm using a Core i7-740-equipped computer (in the 3500 range), with 
fewer plugins at that, and of course it works just fine...

Yours,

Rainer

*: I'd like to avoid getting into a discussion about a proper 
metric/measure for computer/CPU performance. First of all, the CPU is 
not all that counts, then the benchmark you use may not tell you 
everything. However, it's a first starting point, especially for that 
application (which mostly stresses CPU).



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> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 4:03 AM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
>> saw Kim Cascone's Dell Netbook yesterday and thought, I want one too, for
>> looping and travelling. But would it have enough power (under Windows - I'm
>> a Windows user) to run Bidule and a whole bunch of plugins that are
>> occasionally almost too much for my larger Vaio? those netbooks all seem to
>> have 1.6GHz and an Atom processor and a friend said he thinks it would be
>> too weak for music purposes. Any experiences anyone?

Can't tell about the Atom processor but I recently tested my rig on a
2.7 GHz i7 processor to compare with my usual 2.2 GHz Core 2 Duo.
Without the figures reading much bigger (2.7 vs 2.2) I was amazed by
how the i7 would let me load up even more plugins. I mean, the total
CPU use was just a bit lower on the i7 but it DID NOT RISE much as I
loaded plugins that would have made the Core 2 Duo choke. So without
caring to explain the technical background I would say the i7
processor gives a better headroom.

Michael, have you researched the Live Forum's thread about comparing
machines? It is the "go to" knowledge base for laptop audio
application comparisons.
"LIVE 8 PERFORMANCE TEST - Results Here"
http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=111880&start=0&hilit=Live+8+Performance+Test

All the best

Pboy

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> http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/guest/BillWalker-MusicBox.mp3

The link's broken for me for some reason :-(

Kevin

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Beautiful track, Bill!   This has been a regular in my iTunes playlist for long now.  

I love this sound--- its the reason Repeater is still in my rack today.

I found this trick really with drum-voiced arpeggios modulating the pitch of the recorded loop.  When first experimenting with the technique-- I  recorded single note drones and then manipulated this loop with rhythmic pitch data from an arpeggiator.  Then I found that if I created midi arpeggios (mapped to drum voices) and allowed only perfect 5ths and 4ths in the arpeggio pattern I could manipulate pitch of more complex (non - droning loops) in a groove with the drum part.   This allows me to safely apply harmonic elements to rather active loops (non Droning) to produce unexpected composite melodies and rhythms.

A couple of examples linked below.  In these pieces, the same midi arpeggio that is triggering the drum grooves are driving the pitch manipulations of the loops. 

Pocket Steel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAJH4McLvWI

Crossing the Rubicon
http://www.youtube.com/user/ChordCluster?feature=mhee#p/c/23F3B3F701A8066A/3/7LGGUgbpjYY


Loop On Bretheren

Daniel 
On May 13, 2011, at 2:30 AM, Rick Walker wrote:

> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote:
>> http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/guest/BillWalker-MusicBox.mp3
>> 
>> 
>> This is a brief track called Music Box, chosen by Bill as
>> being illustrative.
>> It comes from a (much played) CD which Bill brought along to
>> trade at the 2005 Zurich loopfest.
>> At the risk of creating unrequited audio lust I can reveal
>> that it's a great sounding cd of guitar looping
> God, this is a beautiful track Bill!
> 
> I know you aren't currently using this technique but it's so beautiful and idiosyncratic that
> I hope you might consider putting out at least an EP of this type of material from your vaults.
> I too listened to the promo CD you brought to Zurich and think it's a releasable
> product.    Beautiful stuff!
> 
> rick walker
> 


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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; =
">Beautiful track, Bill! &nbsp; This has been a regular in my iTunes =
playlist for long now. &nbsp;<div><br></div><div>I love this sound--- =
its the reason Repeater is still in my rack today.<div><br></div><div>I =
found this trick really with drum-voiced arpeggios modulating the pitch =
of the recorded loop. &nbsp;When first experimenting with the =
technique-- I &nbsp;recorded single note drones and then manipulated =
this loop with rhythmic pitch data from an arpeggiator. &nbsp;Then I =
found that if I&nbsp;created midi arpeggios (mapped to drum voices) and =
allowed only perfect 5ths and 4ths in the arpeggio pattern I could =
manipulate pitch of more complex (non - droning loops) in a groove with =
the drum part. &nbsp; This allows me to safely apply harmonic elements =
to rather active loops (non Droning) to produce unexpected composite =
melodies and rhythms.</div><div><br></div><div>A couple of examples =
linked below. &nbsp;In these pieces, the same midi arpeggio that is =
triggering the drum grooves are driving the pitch manipulations of the =
loops.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><b>Pocket Steel</b></div><div><a =
href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DhAJH4McLvWI">http://www.youtube.c=
om/watch?v=3DhAJH4McLvWI</a></div><div><br></div><div><b>Crossing the =
Rubicon</b></div><div><a =
href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/user/ChordCluster?feature=3Dmhee#p/c/23F3B3=
F701A8066A/3/7LGGUgbpjYY">http://www.youtube.com/user/ChordCluster?feature=
=3Dmhee#p/c/23F3B3F701A8066A/3/7LGGUgbpjYY</a></div><div><br></div><div><b=
r></div><div>Loop On =
Bretheren</div><div><br></div><div>Daniel&nbsp;</div><div><div><div><div>O=
n May 13, 2011, at 2:30 AM, Rick Walker wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On =
7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote:<br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><a =
href=3D"http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/guest/BillWalker-MusicBox.mp3">http:=
//www.andybutler.com/mp3/guest/BillWalker-MusicBox.mp3</a><br></blockquote=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">This is a brief =
track called Music Box, chosen by Bill as<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">being illustrative.<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">It comes from a (much played) CD which Bill brought along =
to<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">trade at the 2005 Zurich =
loopfest.<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">At the risk of =
creating unrequited audio lust I can reveal<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">that it's a great sounding cd of guitar =
looping<br></blockquote>God, this is a beautiful track Bill!<br><br>I =
know you aren't currently using this technique but it's so beautiful and =
idiosyncratic that<br>I hope you might consider putting out at least an =
EP of this type of material from your vaults.<br>I too listened to the =
promo CD you brought to Zurich and think it's a releasable<br>product. =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Beautiful stuff!<br><br>rick =
walker<br><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></body></html=
>=

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Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote:
>> http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/guest/BillWalker-MusicBox.mp3
> 
> The link's broken for me for some reason :-(
> 
> Kevin
> 

just clicked it (in your reply)
..it's working.

try copy and paste

a

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Thanks, it was my problem, outdated quicktime on my machine.

Sorry,

Kevin

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 8:43 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote=
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>
>
> Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/guest/BillWalker-MusicBox.mp3
>>
>> The link's broken for me for some reason :-(
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>
> just clicked it (in your reply)
> ..it's working.
>
> try copy and paste
>
> a
>
>



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Per Boysen schrieb:
> Can't tell about the Atom processor but I recently tested my rig on a
> 2.7 GHz i7 processor to compare with my usual 2.2 GHz Core 2 Duo.
> Without the figures reading much bigger (2.7 vs 2.2) I was amazed by
> how the i7 would let me load up even more plugins. I mean, the tota
In short:
Core2Duo is a Core microarchitecture - with the "duo" variants all being 
2 cores, no hyperthreading.
Core i7 is a Nehalem or Sandy Bridge microarchitecture - with 4 to 10 
hyperthreading cores, and various other improvements.

It stands to reason that this will produce much better performance...the 
clock speed plays a minor role. In fact, the 2.2 GHz Sandy Brige will 
outperform your 2.2 GHz Core2Duo by a factor of about or more than five (*).

          Rainer

*: given a task, a software and an OS that can make use of the 
additional cores and hyperthreading architecture.

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wow, thanks Rainer and Per and all for the very useful information so far
... Michael

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Fabio,  I just wanted to stop by to say how much I'm enjoying this... just
gorgeous.  listening to Weightless.  Thanks for the music.  Best,  Todd

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I'm still crossing my fingers on this one. I'm working on a tour for
August, and I'll be bummed if I don't have the unit by then. I
specifically pre-ordered it with this tour in mind.

--=20
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt


On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 5:45 AM, Thomas Wegmann <theweg@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the Update Rick, I too pre-ordered and had only one question a=
s I
> can be patient.=A0 I was curious about specs, size that is as I am thinki=
ng of
> getting a pedal board to put it on along with some other pedals I use.=A0=
 If
> you do know the dimensions please respond otherwise I will wait for the
> looper to arrive.=A0 Anticipation is a great thing!
>
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote=
:
>>
>> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Matt Davignon wrote:
>>>
>>> Has anyone heard a peep about the shipping date? I pre-ordered one.
>>> Last I heard was "March".
>>>
>> Essentially, we Bob was shooting for March 1st, =A0but his father became
>> seriously ill and
>> then passed away in December and with travelling back east to the funera=
l
>> and everything
>> else that comes up when we finally lose a beloved partent, =A0it set the
>> whole process back
>> considerably.
>>
>> I know he is very close. =A0 =A0He's already fixed all the hardware issu=
es of
>> the first prototypes
>> and almost every software issue (I've been beta testing for him as well)=
.
>>
>> I know he's working very, very hard on it, every day and it's his number
>> one priority to
>> get it out, so be assured of that.
>>
>> It's just tough sometimes, when one tries to be an entire company, and
>> have a 40 hour job
>> and lead a large family as Bob is doing.
>>
>> Soon come, mon, but we don't want to project a shipping date yet, until
>> we're dead certain
>> that everything functions effortlessly.
>>
>> I will tell you this, though, =A0Matt. =A0 You are going to love some of=
 this
>> functionality......
>> the 1/4 speed thing......the random retrigger.......midi
>> synchronization.......Q replace
>> functions are really fun and I'm getting some very creative experimental
>> things out
>> of the device already.
>>
>> Rick Walker
>>
>> ps =A0 if you have any questions about functionality or shipping, =A0ple=
ase
>> direct all your
>> inquiries to me. =A0 =A0 =A0I want to help Bob focus on only getting thi=
s thing
>> shipped
>> so I'll take on correspondance for him.
>>
>> pps =A0What recent events have also done is to put LP-1 upgrades and fix=
es
>> on a bit of a back
>> burner but these things WILL happen, =A0I promise you.
>>
>> ppps =A0 Also, =A0 please don't suggest additional feature sets for the
>> LP-2.........the unit is finished. =A0period. point. dot
>> My advice if you don't care for the unit or you wish it did something
>> different is
>>
>> 1) don't buy it and
>>
>> 2) invest in a laptop and run multiple instances of Mobius and Plogue
>> Bidule or Ableton's Live and get creative and prepare for the learning c=
urve
>> it will take to get that all functioning.........
>>
>> 3) either this, =A0or begin designing
>> your own looper from scratch. =A0 =A0That's what Bob did.
> Greg Wegmann
>
> TheWeg@Verizon.net
> TheWeg@GMail.com

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That sounds great Massimo, would love to come but not sure about  
finances at this point, last year was a pretty bad year $ wise. Might  
have to wait till 2012
  hope you are well
  Bill

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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Thomas Wegmann wrote:
> Thanks for the Update Rick, I too pre-ordered and had only one 
> question as I can be patient.  I was curious about specs, size that is 
> as I am thinking of getting a pedal board to put it on along with some 
> other pedals I use.  If you do know the dimensions please respond 
> otherwise I will wait for the looper to arrive.  Anticipation is a 
> great thing!
The LP-2 MINI LOOPER has the identical footprint as a Line 6 DL-4, MM-4, 
etc, roughly the size of two small Boss styled stomp box pedals side to 
side.

And we're really, really close to releasing.   Thanks all who 
pre-ordered for being patient.

I just posted the first recorded track using it for the
CT-Harmonics project.     Called  "Beautiful Christine on the Occasion 
of Her Birthday"
I used only harmonics on a four string Strat (tuned to an open sus-2 
tuning) through the LP-2 and an Electro Harmonix Freeze
pedal (hardly using the Freeze at all) so you can hear it pretty 
unadulterated.

I specifically used the Q-Replace (set to 8th notes),  1/2, Double, 1/4 
and Quadruple speeds, Reverse
and Random Retrigger functions (the latter is a new feature I added that 
allows for one to retrigger to
randomly selected places in a loop at each press of the 'effects' button.

Here it is for your perusal:
_
http://www.veloopity.de/ct/mp3/harmonics/06_rick_walker_beautiful_christine.mp3_

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Fabio Anile wrote:
> Now she died and I cannot describe how I feel.
> Today coming back from the funeral, the only idea bouncing in my head 
> was:
> "ok, Virna, I'll do it !" ...and I've done it

After hearing this beautiful work,  Fabio,  I can't think of a more 
fitting tribute
to Virginia's life.      Wherever she is now (and I pray it is a better 
place),
I can't help but think that this has made her smile.

I'm so sorry for your loss.   She seemed to be a wonderful musician and 
human being.

Rick Walker

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I'll be using the Freeze pretty heavily tonight. I'm performing a live
soundtrack for a film based tonight. The music will be more or less a
cover of the old timey song "I Wish I was a Mole in the Ground",
played entirely on drum machine.

http://www.sfcinematheque.org/#/calendar/201105131/

--=20
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt


Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> was all:
>
> I just posted the first recorded track using it for the
> CT-Harmonics project. =A0 =A0 Called =A0"Beautiful Christine on the Occas=
ion of
> Her Birthday"
> I used only harmonics on a four string Strat (tuned to an open sus-2 tuni=
ng)
> through the LP-2 and an Electro Harmonix Freeze
> pedal (hardly using the Freeze at all) so you can hear it pretty
> unadulterated.
>

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went to find it, Rick,  file not found!


> Here it is for your perusal:
> _
>
> http://www.veloopity.de/ct/mp3/harmonics/06_rick_walker_beautiful_christi=
ne.mp3_
>
>


--=20
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
=95 Currently in London with Bang on a Can and Eighth Blackbird, playing mu=
sic
of Steve Reich
=95 May 24th at The Guggenheim Museum, May 25th at The Stone, NYC
=95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever
music is sold. You can check out the INNOVA Recordings Artist Page here:

http://innova.mu/artist1.asp?skuID=3D449

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went to find it, Rick, =A0file not found!=A0<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
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t:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><br>
Here it is for your perusal:<br>
_<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.veloopity.de/ct/mp3/harmonics/06_rick_walker_beautifu=
l_christine.mp3_" target=3D"_blank">http://www.veloopity.de/ct/mp3/harmonic=
s/06_rick_walker_beautiful_christine.mp3_</a><br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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=3D=3D=3D=3D<br>=95 Currently in London with Bang on a Can and Eighth Black=
bird, playing music of Steve Reich<div>=95 May 24th at The Guggenheim Museu=
m, May 25th at The Stone, NYC<br>

<div>=95=A0Outerborough, Todd Reynolds&#39; solo double CD is now available=
 wherever music is sold. You can check out the INNOVA Recordings Artist Pag=
e here:<div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://innova.mu/artist1.asp?sku=
ID=3D449" target=3D"_blank">http://innova.mu/artist1.asp?skuID=3D449</a><br=
>

<div><div><br><br></div></div></div></div></div></div><br>

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A lovely tune Rick, I really dig this whole release :)

http://www.veloopity.de/ct/mp3/harmonics/06_rick_walker_beautiful_christine.mp3

j

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Thomas Wegmann wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the Update Rick, I too pre-ordered and had only one question as
>> I can be patient.  I was curious about specs, size that is as I am thinking
>> of getting a pedal board to put it on along with some other pedals I use.
>>  If you do know the dimensions please respond otherwise I will wait for the
>> looper to arrive.  Anticipation is a great thing!
>>
> The LP-2 MINI LOOPER has the identical footprint as a Line 6 DL-4, MM-4,
> etc, roughly the size of two small Boss styled stomp box pedals side to
> side.
>
> And we're really, really close to releasing.   Thanks all who pre-ordered
> for being patient.
>
> I just posted the first recorded track using it for the
> CT-Harmonics project.     Called  "Beautiful Christine on the Occasion of
> Her Birthday"
> I used only harmonics on a four string Strat (tuned to an open sus-2
> tuning) through the LP-2 and an Electro Harmonix Freeze
> pedal (hardly using the Freeze at all) so you can hear it pretty
> unadulterated.
>
> I specifically used the Q-Replace (set to 8th notes),  1/2, Double, 1/4 and
> Quadruple speeds, Reverse
> and Random Retrigger functions (the latter is a new feature I added that
> allows for one to retrigger to
> randomly selected places in a loop at each press of the 'effects' button.
>
> Here it is for your perusal:
> _
>
> http://www.veloopity.de/ct/mp3/harmonics/06_rick_walker_beautiful_christine.mp3_
>
>

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A lovely tune Rick, I really dig this whole release :) <br><br><a href=3D"h=
ttp://www.veloopity.de/ct/mp3/harmonics/06_rick_walker_beautiful_christine.=
mp3">http://www.veloopity.de/ct/mp3/harmonics/06_rick_walker_beautiful_chri=
stine.mp3</a><br>
<br>j<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Ri=
ck Walker <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:looppool@cruzio.com">loop=
pool@cruzio.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 20=
4); padding-left: 1ex;">
On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Thomas Wegmann wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Thanks for the Update Rick, I too pre-ordered and had only one question as =
I can be patient. =A0I was curious about specs, size that is as I am thinki=
ng of getting a pedal board to put it on along with some other pedals I use=
. =A0If you do know the dimensions please respond otherwise I will wait for=
 the looper to arrive. =A0Anticipation is a great thing!<br>

</blockquote>
The LP-2 MINI LOOPER has the identical footprint as a Line 6 DL-4, MM-4, et=
c, roughly the size of two small Boss styled stomp box pedals side to side.=
<br>
<br>
And we&#39;re really, really close to releasing. =A0 Thanks all who pre-ord=
ered for being patient.<br>
<br>
I just posted the first recorded track using it for the<br>
CT-Harmonics project. =A0 =A0 Called =A0&quot;Beautiful Christine on the Oc=
casion of Her Birthday&quot;<br>
I used only harmonics on a four string Strat (tuned to an open sus-2 tuning=
) through the LP-2 and an Electro Harmonix Freeze<br>
pedal (hardly using the Freeze at all) so you can hear it pretty unadultera=
ted.<br>
<br>
I specifically used the Q-Replace (set to 8th notes), =A01/2, Double, 1/4 a=
nd Quadruple speeds, Reverse<br>
and Random Retrigger functions (the latter is a new feature I added that al=
lows for one to retrigger to<br>
randomly selected places in a loop at each press of the &#39;effects&#39; b=
utton.<br>
<br>
Here it is for your perusal:<br>
_<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.veloopity.de/ct/mp3/harmonics/06_rick_walker_beautifu=
l_christine.mp3_" target=3D"_blank">http://www.veloopity.de/ct/mp3/harmonic=
s/06_rick_walker_beautiful_christine.mp3_</a><br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br>

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On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Rainer Straschill
<moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Core2Duo is a Core microarchitecture - with the "duo" variants all being =
2
> cores, no hyperthreading.
> Core i7 is a Nehalem or Sandy Bridge microarchitecture - with 4 to 10
> hyperthreading cores, and various other improvements.
>
> It stands to reason that this will produce much better performance...the
> clock speed plays a minor role. In fact, the 2.2 GHz Sandy Brige will
> outperform your 2.2 GHz Core2Duo by a factor of about or more than five (=
*).
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Rainer
>
> *: given a task, a software and an OS that can make use of the additional
> cores and hyperthreading architecture.


Thanks for filling in the technical details, Rainer. Actually my 2.7
i7 is the one with just two cores, the 13" MBP from Apple (not sure if
my software can run it as four virtual cores). We recently did a test
here with a Swedish Studio magazine and found that the bigger MBP (15"
screen) with four cores qualified at three to four times better
results than its Core 2 Duo predecessor. The Sandy-Bridge box runs
those four cores as eight virtual cores in Logic/Mainstage. For my
needs the two-core 13" is good enough. For researching corresponding
test results for a Windows based machine I think the Live Forum thread
has a lot to give (see previous post).

Per

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I recommend just going to your local home center and building them from the
wood they have there. it'll end up way beefier and cheaper than what you
would buy at a place like musicians friend.

Cheers.
Jeffrey

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 4:41 AM, Louie Angulo
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> hey gang,
> Im looking for some desktop stands for my JBL studio monitors,they sit
> too low and id like to raise them about 15 to 20 cm from the surface
> of my desk.
> There are a lot of monitor stands all the way form the floor but i
> dont have much space to have them,most of those have very wide feet.
> is there anything out there you can recomend?
> thanx
> Luis
>
>
> --
> www.luis-angulo.com
>
>

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I recommend just going to your local home center and building them from the=
 wood they have there. it&#39;ll end up way beefier and cheaper than what y=
ou would buy at a place like musicians friend.<br><br>Cheers.<br>Jeffrey<br=
>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 4:41 AM, Louie Angul=
o <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:louie.angulo@googlemail.com">loui=
e.angulo@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:=
1ex;">
hey gang,<br>
Im looking for some desktop stands for my JBL studio monitors,they sit<br>
too low and id like to raise them about 15 to 20 cm from the surface<br>
of my desk.<br>
There are a lot of monitor stands all the way form the floor but i<br>
dont have much space to have them,most of those have very wide feet.<br>
is there anything out there you can recomend?<br>
thanx<br>
Luis<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
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Monster groove on Pocket Steel Dan.
Digging it.

Andre

http://www.youtube.com/user/AndreDonawa

On Fri, May 13, 2011 11:41 am, Daniel Thomas wrote:
> Beautiful track, Bill!   This has been a regular in my iTunes playlist for
> long now.
>
> I love this sound--- its the reason Repeater is still in my rack today.
>
> I found this trick really with drum-voiced arpeggios modulating the pitch
> of the recorded loop.  When first experimenting with the technique-- I
> recorded single note drones and then manipulated this loop with rhythmic
> pitch data from an arpeggiator.  Then I found that if I created midi
> arpeggios (mapped to drum voices) and allowed only perfect 5ths and 4ths
> in the arpeggio pattern I could manipulate pitch of more complex (non -
> droning loops) in a groove with the drum part.   This allows me to safely
> apply harmonic elements to rather active loops (non Droning) to produce
> unexpected composite melodies and rhythms.
>
> A couple of examples linked below.  In these pieces, the same midi
> arpeggio that is triggering the drum grooves are driving the pitch
> manipulations of the loops.
>
> Pocket Steel
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAJH4McLvWI
>
> Crossing the Rubicon
> http://www.youtube.com/user/ChordCluster?feature=mhee#p/c/23F3B3F701A8066A/3/7LGGUgbpjYY
>
>
> Loop On Bretheren
>
> Daniel
> On May 13, 2011, at 2:30 AM, Rick Walker wrote:
>
>> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote:
>>> http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/guest/BillWalker-MusicBox.mp3
>>>
>>>
>>> This is a brief track called Music Box, chosen by Bill as
>>> being illustrative.
>>> It comes from a (much played) CD which Bill brought along to
>>> trade at the 2005 Zurich loopfest.
>>> At the risk of creating unrequited audio lust I can reveal
>>> that it's a great sounding cd of guitar looping
>> God, this is a beautiful track Bill!
>>
>> I know you aren't currently using this technique but it's so beautiful
>> and idiosyncratic that
>> I hope you might consider putting out at least an EP of this type of
>> material from your vaults.
>> I too listened to the promo CD you brought to Zurich and think it's a
>> releasable
>> product.    Beautiful stuff!
>>
>> rick walker
>>
>
>



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Sounds great btw Bill.  I'd love to hear more of that sound (even now
that I've sold my repeater).

Thanks,

Kevin

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando
<billowhead@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, it was my problem, outdated quicktime on my machine.
>
> Sorry,
>
> Kevin
>
> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 8:43 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wro=
te:
>>
>>
>> Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/guest/BillWalker-MusicBox.mp3
>>>
>>> The link's broken for me for some reason :-(
>>>
>>> Kevin
>>>
>>
>> just clicked it (in your reply)
>> ..it's working.
>>
>> try copy and paste
>>
>> a
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> Anyone selling a little half rack EQ killer?

Hands down one of my favorite pieces of gear!  Wish i had more than just one.

Peter



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just saw this last night:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m379cwSThAo

mr. torn's gig as a duo w/ drums. some great sounds & looping...it's a 25
min clip.
from what he said on TGP it was recorded, don't know if that means for
future release or not
this was a vid clip from someone in the audience...decent sound if you use
headphones (i think).
enjoy...
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<div>just saw this last night:</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dm379cwSThAo">http://www.yo=
utube.com/watch?v=3Dm379cwSThAo</a></div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>mr. torn&#39;s gig as a duo w/ drums. some great sounds &amp; looping.=
..it&#39;s a 25 min clip. </div>
<div>from what he said on TGP it was recorded, don&#39;t know if that means=
 for future release or not</div>
<div>this was a vid clip from someone in the audience...decent sound if you=
 use headphones (i think).</div>
<div>enjoy...</div>
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yeah man groovey i like it!
explain what u are using for drum loops,Ableton?

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com> wrot=
e:
> Beautiful track, Bill! =A0 This has been a regular in my iTunes playlist =
for
> long now.
> I love this sound--- its the reason Repeater is still in my rack today.
> I found this trick really with drum-voiced arpeggios modulating the pitch=
 of
> the recorded loop. =A0When first experimenting with the technique-- I
> =A0recorded single note drones and then manipulated this loop with rhythm=
ic
> pitch data from an arpeggiator. =A0Then I found that if I=A0created midi
> arpeggios (mapped to drum voices) and allowed only perfect 5ths and 4ths =
in
> the arpeggio pattern I could manipulate pitch of more complex (non - dron=
ing
> loops) in a groove with the drum part. =A0 This allows me to safely apply
> harmonic elements to rather active loops (non Droning) to produce unexpec=
ted
> composite melodies and rhythms.
> A couple of examples linked below. =A0In these pieces, the same midi arpe=
ggio
> that is triggering the drum grooves are driving the pitch manipulations o=
f
> the loops.
> Pocket Steel
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DhAJH4McLvWI
> Crossing the Rubicon
> http://www.youtube.com/user/ChordCluster?feature=3Dmhee#p/c/23F3B3F701A80=
66A/3/7LGGUgbpjYY
>
> Loop On Bretheren
> Daniel
> On May 13, 2011, at 2:30 AM, Rick Walker wrote:
>
> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote:
>
> http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/guest/BillWalker-MusicBox.mp3
>
>
> This is a brief track called Music Box, chosen by Bill as
>
> being illustrative.
>
> It comes from a (much played) CD which Bill brought along to
>
> trade at the 2005 Zurich loopfest.
>
> At the risk of creating unrequited audio lust I can reveal
>
> that it's a great sounding cd of guitar looping
>
> God, this is a beautiful track Bill!
>
> I know you aren't currently using this technique but it's so beautiful an=
d
> idiosyncratic that
> I hope you might consider putting out at least an EP of this type of
> material from your vaults.
> I too listened to the promo CD you brought to Zurich and think it's a
> releasable
> product. =A0=A0=A0Beautiful stuff!
>
> rick walker
>
>
>



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well that sounds good but if i dont know if house brix isloate
well,wood is a good idea.
i guess what i m looking for is brix type but made of rubber to
isolate frequencies as well and so the speakers seat stable and dont
shake at all!
cheers
Luis


On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Jeffrey Collins
<jeffreycollins1975@gmail.com> wrote:
> I recommend just going to your local home center and building them from the
> wood they have there. it'll end up way beefier and cheaper than what you
> would buy at a place like musicians friend.
>
> Cheers.
> Jeffrey
>
> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 4:41 AM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> hey gang,
>> Im looking for some desktop stands for my JBL studio monitors,they sit
>> too low and id like to raise them about 15 to 20 cm from the surface
>> of my desk.
>> There are a lot of monitor stands all the way form the floor but i
>> dont have much space to have them,most of those have very wide feet.
>> is there anything out there you can recomend?
>> thanx
>> Luis
>>
>>
>> --
>> www.luis-angulo.com
>>
>
>



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i have this album is beautiful!
sorry to hear that Fabio...
warm regards
Luis

On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Fabio_A <eterogenus@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> after a long time sitting in my desk, my album "Weightless" in now on
> bandcamp.
> I've searched for a label interested in a release of it, but..it seems th=
at
> this album
> is considered less then a shit.
>
> I decided to put it on bandcamp today, for a tragic reason that I want=A0=
to
> share with
> my beloved list.
> Last winter I formed a trio=A0that=A0involved Virginia Splendore
> - that probably some of you stickist will know -=A0as the stick player
> and a percussionist.
> Virginia=A0liked my Weightless album and she wanted that I=A0quit
> loosing my time and put that album on the internet.
> On a day, she sent me a song from that album with a lovely
> freetless bass added by her.
> Now she died and=A0I cannot describe how I feel.
> Today coming back from the=A0funeral, the only idea bouncing in my head w=
as:
> "ok, Virna, I'll do it !" ...and I've done it (while I'm still struggling
> searching
> on my hard drives and computers that files where she played...)
>
> ...that said this album doesn't contain precomposed compositions, it's ju=
st
> collection of glitch ambient
> music freely improvised=A0following the "mood" of the Alva Noto-Sakamoto
> works.
> For those who are interested, the set-up here is Bidule and Mobius VST an=
d
> fxs pre and post looper. DB glitch plugin is clearly recognizable
> It's just looping, tons of ...
>
> http://eterogeneo.bandcamp.com/
>
> -fabio
> www.eterogeneo.com



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Simeon i listened to it yesterday,you are one of my favorite ambient guitar=
rist!
Luis




On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Simeon Harris
<simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
> thanks bill!
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 4:42 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> So beautiful!
>> =A0Thanks Sim
>> Bill
>>
>
>



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bricks with foam or rubber pads on top.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0002D0B4K/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=103612307&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B002CR9X2A&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=0ANZNEWXWMSTJPN9VQE4

there's nothing special about the foam that they use for these, you could
probably find some cheaper stuff somewhere and cut it to size

sim

On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Louie Angulo
<louie.angulo@googlemail.com>wrote:

> well that sounds good but if i dont know if house brix isloate
> well,wood is a good idea.
> i guess what i m looking for is brix type but made of rubber to
> isolate frequencies as well and so the speakers seat stable and dont
> shake at all!
> cheers
> Luis
>
>
> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Jeffrey Collins
> <jeffreycollins1975@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I recommend just going to your local home center and building them from
> the
> > wood they have there. it'll end up way beefier and cheaper than what you
> > would buy at a place like musicians friend.
> >
> > Cheers.
> > Jeffrey
> >
> > On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 4:41 AM, Louie Angulo <
> louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> hey gang,
> >> Im looking for some desktop stands for my JBL studio monitors,they sit
> >> too low and id like to raise them about 15 to 20 cm from the surface
> >> of my desk.
> >> There are a lot of monitor stands all the way form the floor but i
> >> dont have much space to have them,most of those have very wide feet.
> >> is there anything out there you can recomend?
> >> thanx
> >> Luis
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> www.luis-angulo.com
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> www.luis-angulo.com
>
>

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bricks with foam or rubber pads on top.=A0<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"ht=
tp://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0002D0B4K/ref=3Dpd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=
=3D103612307&amp;pf_rd_s=3Dlpo-top-stripe&amp;pf_rd_t=3D201&amp;pf_rd_i=3DB=
002CR9X2A&amp;pf_rd_m=3DA3P5ROKL5A1OLE&amp;pf_rd_r=3D0ANZNEWXWMSTJPN9VQE4">=
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0002D0B4K/ref=3Dpd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd=
_p=3D103612307&amp;pf_rd_s=3Dlpo-top-stripe&amp;pf_rd_t=3D201&amp;pf_rd_i=
=3DB002CR9X2A&amp;pf_rd_m=3DA3P5ROKL5A1OLE&amp;pf_rd_r=3D0ANZNEWXWMSTJPN9VQ=
E4</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>there&#39;s nothing special about the foam that they us=
e for these, you could probably find some cheaper stuff somewhere and cut i=
t to size</div><div><br></div><div>sim<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Louie Angulo <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:louie.angulo@googlemail.com">louie.angulo@googlemail.com</a>&gt=
;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
well that sounds good but if i dont know if house brix isloate<br>
well,wood is a good idea.<br>
i guess what i m looking for is brix type but made of rubber to<br>
isolate frequencies as well and so the speakers seat stable and dont<br>
shake at all!<br>
cheers<br>
Luis<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Jeffrey Collins<br>
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jeffreycollins1975@gmail.com">jeffreycollins1975@gmai=
l.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; I recommend just going to your local home center and building them fro=
m the<br>
&gt; wood they have there. it&#39;ll end up way beefier and cheaper than wh=
at you<br>
&gt; would buy at a place like musicians friend.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Cheers.<br>
&gt; Jeffrey<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 4:41 AM, Louie Angulo &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lo=
uie.angulo@googlemail.com">louie.angulo@googlemail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; hey gang,<br>
&gt;&gt; Im looking for some desktop stands for my JBL studio monitors,they=
 sit<br>
&gt;&gt; too low and id like to raise them about 15 to 20 cm from the surfa=
ce<br>
&gt;&gt; of my desk.<br>
&gt;&gt; There are a lot of monitor stands all the way form the floor but i=
<br>
&gt;&gt; dont have much space to have them,most of those have very wide fee=
t.<br>
&gt;&gt; is there anything out there you can recomend?<br>
&gt;&gt; thanx<br>
&gt;&gt; Luis<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.luis-angulo.com" target=3D"_blank">www.luis-=
angulo.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</div></div><font color=3D"#888888">--<br>
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in fact mouse mats are almost the perfect density and size

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hard-Foam-Cloth-Covered-Mouse-Mat-Pad-Black-/110685196903?pt=UK_Computing_ComputerComponents_MouseMats&hash=item19c55a1267#ht_1128wt_934

look for someone having an office clearout and pick up loads for free!

sim

On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Simeon Harris <
simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:

> bricks with foam or rubber pads on top.
>
>
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0002D0B4K/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=103612307&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B002CR9X2A&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=0ANZNEWXWMSTJPN9VQE4
>
> there's nothing special about the foam that they use for these, you could
> probably find some cheaper stuff somewhere and cut it to size
>
> sim
>
>
> On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Louie Angulo <
> louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> well that sounds good but if i dont know if house brix isloate
>> well,wood is a good idea.
>> i guess what i m looking for is brix type but made of rubber to
>> isolate frequencies as well and so the speakers seat stable and dont
>> shake at all!
>> cheers
>> Luis
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Jeffrey Collins
>> <jeffreycollins1975@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I recommend just going to your local home center and building them from
>> the
>> > wood they have there. it'll end up way beefier and cheaper than what you
>> > would buy at a place like musicians friend.
>> >
>> > Cheers.
>> > Jeffrey
>> >
>> > On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 4:41 AM, Louie Angulo <
>> louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> hey gang,
>> >> Im looking for some desktop stands for my JBL studio monitors,they sit
>> >> too low and id like to raise them about 15 to 20 cm from the surface
>> >> of my desk.
>> >> There are a lot of monitor stands all the way form the floor but i
>> >> dont have much space to have them,most of those have very wide feet.
>> >> is there anything out there you can recomend?
>> >> thanx
>> >> Luis
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> www.luis-angulo.com
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> www.luis-angulo.com
>>
>>
>

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in fact mouse mats are almost the perfect density and size<div><br></div><d=
iv><a href=3D"http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hard-Foam-Cloth-Covered-Mouse-Mat-Pad-B=
lack-/110685196903?pt=3DUK_Computing_ComputerComponents_MouseMats&amp;hash=
=3Ditem19c55a1267#ht_1128wt_934">http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hard-Foam-Cloth-Cove=
red-Mouse-Mat-Pad-Black-/110685196903?pt=3DUK_Computing_ComputerComponents_=
MouseMats&amp;hash=3Ditem19c55a1267#ht_1128wt_934</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>look for someone having an office clearout and pick up =
loads for free!</div><div><br></div><div>sim<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Simeon Harris <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:simeonharris40@googlemail.com">simeonharris40@googlemail.co=
m</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">bricks with foam or rubber pads on top.=A0<=
div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0002D0B4K=
/ref=3Dpd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=3D103612307&amp;pf_rd_s=3Dlpo-top-stripe&a=
mp;pf_rd_t=3D201&amp;pf_rd_i=3DB002CR9X2A&amp;pf_rd_m=3DA3P5ROKL5A1OLE&amp;=
pf_rd_r=3D0ANZNEWXWMSTJPN9VQE4" target=3D"_blank">http://www.amazon.co.uk/g=
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=3DA3P5ROKL5A1OLE&amp;pf_rd_r=3D0ANZNEWXWMSTJPN9VQE4</a></div>

<div><br></div><div>there&#39;s nothing special about the foam that they us=
e for these, you could probably find some cheaper stuff somewhere and cut i=
t to size</div><div><br></div><div>sim<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Louie Angulo <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:louie.angulo@googlemail.com" target=3D"_blank">louie.angulo@goo=
glemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

well that sounds good but if i dont know if house brix isloate<br>
well,wood is a good idea.<br>
i guess what i m looking for is brix type but made of rubber to<br>
isolate frequencies as well and so the speakers seat stable and dont<br>
shake at all!<br>
cheers<br>
Luis<br>
<div><div></div><div><br>
<br>
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Jeffrey Collins<br>
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jeffreycollins1975@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jeffr=
eycollins1975@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; I recommend just going to your local home center and building them fro=
m the<br>
&gt; wood they have there. it&#39;ll end up way beefier and cheaper than wh=
at you<br>
&gt; would buy at a place like musicians friend.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Cheers.<br>
&gt; Jeffrey<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 4:41 AM, Louie Angulo &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lo=
uie.angulo@googlemail.com" target=3D"_blank">louie.angulo@googlemail.com</a=
>&gt;<br>
&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; hey gang,<br>
&gt;&gt; Im looking for some desktop stands for my JBL studio monitors,they=
 sit<br>
&gt;&gt; too low and id like to raise them about 15 to 20 cm from the surfa=
ce<br>
&gt;&gt; of my desk.<br>
&gt;&gt; There are a lot of monitor stands all the way form the floor but i=
<br>
&gt;&gt; dont have much space to have them,most of those have very wide fee=
t.<br>
&gt;&gt; is there anything out there you can recomend?<br>
&gt;&gt; thanx<br>
&gt;&gt; Luis<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.luis-angulo.com" target=3D"_blank">www.luis-=
angulo.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</div></div><font color=3D"#888888">--<br>
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On May 13, 2011, at 6:20 AM, p koniuto wrote:

>> Anyone selling a little half rack EQ killer?
>=20
> Hands down one of my favorite pieces of gear!  Wish i had more than =
just one.

Electrix EQ Killer with manual, power supply, and box. Little or no road =
time. (No guarantees on the rack ears. I'm still hunting for those. I =
have one actual rack ear and one connector, but I'm missing the screws =
for mounting one of them on the unit. I will keep hunting.)

$75 + shipping from Seattle (based on a discount from Prepal and a skim =
of eBay).

Mark

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Yeah I had a set for my monitor stands I built. They helped angle the
speakers more correct to where I was sitting and they did reduce vibration.
I would definitely buy another pair when I get a new set of monitors.

Jeffrey

On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Simeon Harris <
simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:

> bricks with foam or rubber pads on top.
>
>
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0002D0B4K/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=103612307&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B002CR9X2A&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=0ANZNEWXWMSTJPN9VQE4
>
> there's nothing special about the foam that they use for these, you could
> probably find some cheaper stuff somewhere and cut it to size
>
> sim
>
>
> On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Louie Angulo <
> louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> well that sounds good but if i dont know if house brix isloate
>> well,wood is a good idea.
>> i guess what i m looking for is brix type but made of rubber to
>> isolate frequencies as well and so the speakers seat stable and dont
>> shake at all!
>> cheers
>> Luis
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Jeffrey Collins
>> <jeffreycollins1975@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I recommend just going to your local home center and building them from
>> the
>> > wood they have there. it'll end up way beefier and cheaper than what you
>> > would buy at a place like musicians friend.
>> >
>> > Cheers.
>> > Jeffrey
>> >
>> > On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 4:41 AM, Louie Angulo <
>> louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> hey gang,
>> >> Im looking for some desktop stands for my JBL studio monitors,they sit
>> >> too low and id like to raise them about 15 to 20 cm from the surface
>> >> of my desk.
>> >> There are a lot of monitor stands all the way form the floor but i
>> >> dont have much space to have them,most of those have very wide feet.
>> >> is there anything out there you can recomend?
>> >> thanx
>> >> Luis
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> www.luis-angulo.com
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> www.luis-angulo.com
>>
>>
>

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Yeah I had a set for my monitor stands I built. They helped angle the speak=
ers more correct to where I was sitting and they did reduce vibration. I wo=
uld definitely buy another pair when I get a new set of monitors.<br><br>
Jeffrey<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 8:02 AM, =
Simeon Harris <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simeonharris40@google=
mail.com">simeonharris40@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc sol=
id;padding-left:1ex;">
bricks with foam or rubber pads on top.=A0<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"ht=
tp://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0002D0B4K/ref=3Dpd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=
=3D103612307&amp;pf_rd_s=3Dlpo-top-stripe&amp;pf_rd_t=3D201&amp;pf_rd_i=3DB=
002CR9X2A&amp;pf_rd_m=3DA3P5ROKL5A1OLE&amp;pf_rd_r=3D0ANZNEWXWMSTJPN9VQE4" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0002D0B4K/ref=3Dpd_lp=
o_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=3D103612307&amp;pf_rd_s=3Dlpo-top-stripe&amp;pf_rd_t=
=3D201&amp;pf_rd_i=3DB002CR9X2A&amp;pf_rd_m=3DA3P5ROKL5A1OLE&amp;pf_rd_r=3D=
0ANZNEWXWMSTJPN9VQE4</a></div>

<div><br></div><div>there&#39;s nothing special about the foam that they us=
e for these, you could probably find some cheaper stuff somewhere and cut i=
t to size</div><div><br></div><div>sim<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Louie Angulo <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:louie.angulo@googlemail.com" target=3D"_blank">louie.angulo@goo=
glemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

well that sounds good but if i dont know if house brix isloate<br>
well,wood is a good idea.<br>
i guess what i m looking for is brix type but made of rubber to<br>
isolate frequencies as well and so the speakers seat stable and dont<br>
shake at all!<br>
cheers<br>
Luis<br>
<div><div></div><div><br>
<br>
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Jeffrey Collins<br>
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jeffreycollins1975@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jeffr=
eycollins1975@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; I recommend just going to your local home center and building them fro=
m the<br>
&gt; wood they have there. it&#39;ll end up way beefier and cheaper than wh=
at you<br>
&gt; would buy at a place like musicians friend.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Cheers.<br>
&gt; Jeffrey<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 4:41 AM, Louie Angulo &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lo=
uie.angulo@googlemail.com" target=3D"_blank">louie.angulo@googlemail.com</a=
>&gt;<br>
&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; hey gang,<br>
&gt;&gt; Im looking for some desktop stands for my JBL studio monitors,they=
 sit<br>
&gt;&gt; too low and id like to raise them about 15 to 20 cm from the surfa=
ce<br>
&gt;&gt; of my desk.<br>
&gt;&gt; There are a lot of monitor stands all the way form the floor but i=
<br>
&gt;&gt; dont have much space to have them,most of those have very wide fee=
t.<br>
&gt;&gt; is there anything out there you can recomend?<br>
&gt;&gt; thanx<br>
&gt;&gt; Luis<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.luis-angulo.com" target=3D"_blank">www.luis-=
angulo.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</div></div><font color=3D"#888888">--<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.luis-angulo.com" target=3D"_blank">www.luis-angulo.co=
m</a><br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div>
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Rick, are more LP1 units going to be restocked?

http://www.looperlative.com/products.php?cat=7

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Rick, are more LP1 units going to be restocked?<br><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.looperlative.com/products.php?cat=7">http://www.looperlative.com/products.php?cat=7</a></div>

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Hey Adam,

This is what Bob said in a recent blog post:

"The LP1 is currently out of production because I simply can't afford to =
sit on inventory. The profit margin is extremely low on the LP1 and for =
me to have units around is costly to me. After the LP2 is shipping, I =
will do a redesign on the LP1 electronics to reduce cost. The software =
in the current LP1s will continue to be used in new LP1s."


On May 14, 2011, at 2:16 PM, ^|>^m wrote:

> Rick, are more LP1 units going to be restocked?
>=20
> http://www.looperlative.com/products.php?cat=3D7

Todd Matthews
toddbass.com
twitter: gtodd876


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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
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"><div>Hey Adam,</div><div><br></div>This is what Bob said in a recent =
blog post:<div><br></div><div>"<meta charset=3D"utf-8"><span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"color: rgb(66, 64, 55); font-family: =
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 21px; ">The =
LP1 is currently out of production because I simply can't afford to sit =
on inventory. The profit margin is extremely low on the LP1 and for me =
to have units around is costly to me. After the LP2 is shipping, I will =
do a redesign on the LP1 electronics to reduce cost. The software in the =
current LP1s will continue to be used in new =
LP1s."</span></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#424037"=
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style=3D"line-height: 21px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font =
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sans-serif"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: =
21px;"><br></span></font><div><div>On May 14, 2011, at 2:16 PM, ^|&gt;^m =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">Rick, are more LP1 units going to be =
restocked?<br><div><br></div><div><a =
href=3D"http://www.looperlative.com/products.php?cat=3D7">http://www.loope=
rlative.com/products.php?cat=3D7</a></div>
</blockquote></div><br><div>
<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; =
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0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div>Todd =
Matthews</div><div><div><a =
href=3D"http://toddbass.com">toddbass.com</a></div><div>twitter: =
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Thanks for sharing that Scoot.

Any day listening to previously unheard David Torn is a good day.

Cheers,

Ted

On May 13, 2011, at 8:27 PM, Scott Hansen wrote:

> just saw this last night:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m379cwSThAo
>
> mr. torn's gig as a duo w/ drums. some great sounds & looping...it's  
> a 25 min clip.
> from what he said on TGP it was recorded, don't know if that means  
> for future release or not
> this was a vid clip from someone in the audience...decent sound if  
> you use headphones (i think).
> enjoy...
> s----

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>concur<


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>From: tEd =C2=AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net>
>Sent: May 14, 2011 12:52 PM
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>Thanks for sharing that Scoot.
>
>Any day listening to previously unheard David Torn is a good day.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Ted
>
>On May 13, 2011, at 8:27 PM, Scott Hansen wrote:
>
>> just saw this last night:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dm379cwSThAo
>>
>> mr. torn's gig as a duo w/ drums. some great sounds & looping...it's =20
>> a 25 min clip.
>> from what he said on TGP it was recorded, don't know if that means =20
>> for future release or not
>> this was a vid clip from someone in the audience...decent sound if =20
>> you use headphones (i think).
>> enjoy...
>> s----
>

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G

Gareth=2C Sentientfx -  Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/



> From: billwalker@baymoon.com
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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote:
> Electrix EQ Killer with manual, power supply, and box. Little or no road time. (No guarantees on the rack ears. I'm still hunting for those. I have one actual rack ear and one connector, but I'm missing the screws for mounting one of them on the unit. I will keep hunting.)
>
> $75 + shipping from Seattle (based on a discount from Prepal and a skim of eBay).
>
> Mark
Careful on that one!     From personal experience, I've found that those 
rack ears are really tough to find because they are a proprietary size.
I know because one set of mine broke on my Repeater and I've never been 
able to find a replacement.

Any ideas,  Electrix users?

ps,   that's a great price on that, Mark.  I wish I wasn't so skint 
right now.

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Thank you Andy.

Looks like my problem is with Logic rather than the EDP. Diving deeper =
:)

Also: apologies for inadvertently co-opting a less trivial thread.. :/

Best,

Phil C :)

=20
On May 13, 2011, at 2:13 AM, andy butler wrote:

> =46rom the EDP side,
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> andy butler
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> Phil Clevenger wrote:
>> Hey Loopers
>> I'm a bit of a newbie to looping, been playing forever though... I am =
happily drowning in the EDP (Loop IV) last few weeks, my goodness what =
fun. Anyone know how to get it to take time/beats from Logic Pro 8? =
Neither manual (Logic, EDP) is any help at all... and I'm a MIDI noob as =
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>> Phil :)
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> On May 13, 2011, at 8:27 PM, Scott Hansen wrote:
>
>> just saw this last night:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m379cwSThAo


Thanks. Loved it.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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www.looproom.com internet music hub

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Hi Louie!

I bought the RC-30 and its really good.
Silent switches, two tracks, the extra footswitch is small and fitted my
pedalboard well.
(FS-6) and with it you can do everything with feet. Well, not start the
rhythms, I mean the unit's own drum machine, that is.

I dont do ABC or any other song forms nowadays, so I dont mind the undo's 2
sec thing.

I'm really pleased with it, it surely fills my small needs as a looping
device.

-Petri-


2011/4/27 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>

> Hi Petri,
> how funny that im doing the same thing!
> You arer absolutely right,that software is anoying,im preparing for a
> gig this saturday and it took me almost an hour to get some samples
> transfered to the Digitech from their flimsy software,there is a new
> firmware version which i installed prior to working with it,i dont
> know what that is meant for,i started importing wav files and in the
> middle of working it crashed bad and lost it all, so i had to restart
> again.Prior to that i was rehearsing with it and as i was scrolling
> through the samples the digitech froze and cound not get it to do
> anything so i reboot it and found out i had lost every other sample in
> a slot,luckly i had made a jam list backup so i retransfered all the
> files.
> what i do like about the digitech is the easy of scrolling through the
> samples,but that switch click is so loud that it gets recorded
> everytime i loop anything(i have my mic going into the loops as well)
> I dont know why they replaced the old switches,they seem a lot
> quieter, think the Boss-RC30 will be better in that department.
> oh dont waste your time trying to call them or suggest
> improvements,their support is nada!
> Im also getting the RC-30 perhaps today or tomorrow to try out,im just
> using this for small pedalboard type of bar gigs and no racks,the
> RC-30 has an essential feature for me like the independent tracks,is
> too bad they didnt assign the undo/redo with the footswitch like the
> Digitech has,you still have to step on it 2 seconds impractical if u
> want ot do A-B arrangments grrr!
> oh well lets see if it beats the Digi
> cheers
> Luis
>
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Petri Lahtinen
> <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi and thanks to everybody for your responses!
> >
> > BUT it seems that RC-50 is not available here in Finland, anymore.
> >
> > The Roland headquarters is Denmark that supply gear to Nordic countries
> had
> > replied to my store, that they dont have any RC-50's there.
> > The chain of stores I use here in Finland, doesnt have not one unit here.
> So
> > will it become a discontinued product that gets replaced by the new
> RC-30...
> > who knows...?
> >
> > SO I'm getting the new RC-30 for test drive next week.
> >
> > Looking at the manual, it seems pretty straightforward unit. Need extra
> > footswitch, which is always annoying.
> > Probably nobody on the list doesnt have one of those, cause its so new
> unit?
> > Think it was 2011 January when the first units shipped.
> >
> > -Petri-
> >
> > 2011/4/26 Victor Eijkhout <victor@eijkhout.net>
> >>
> >> On Apr 25, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote:
> >>
> >> > Were there RC-50 users on the list?
> >>
> >> Check. Just bought it a month ago so I'm still learning. Fun toy though.
> >>
> >> Victor.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Petri Lahtinen
> >
> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> www.luis-angulo.com
>
>


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Hi Louie!<br><br>I bought the RC-30 and its really good.<br>Silent switches=
, two tracks, the extra footswitch is small and fitted my pedalboard well.<=
br>(FS-6) and with it you can do everything with feet. Well, not start the =
rhythms, I mean the unit&#39;s own drum machine, that is. <br>
<br>I dont do ABC or any other song forms nowadays, so I dont mind the undo=
&#39;s 2 sec thing.<br><br>I&#39;m really pleased with it, it surely fills =
my small needs as a looping device.<br><br>-Petri-<br><br><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote">
2011/4/27 Louie Angulo <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:louie.angulo=
@googlemail.com">louie.angulo@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px =
solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi Petri,<br>
how funny that im doing the same thing!<br>
You arer absolutely right,that software is anoying,im preparing for a<br>
gig this saturday and it took me almost an hour to get some samples<br>
transfered to the Digitech from their flimsy software,there is a new<br>
firmware version which i installed prior to working with it,i dont<br>
know what that is meant for,i started importing wav files and in the<br>
middle of working it crashed bad and lost it all, so i had to restart<br>
again.Prior to that i was rehearsing with it and as i was scrolling<br>
through the samples the digitech froze and cound not get it to do<br>
anything so i reboot it and found out i had lost every other sample in<br>
a slot,luckly i had made a jam list backup so i retransfered all the<br>
files.<br>
what i do like about the digitech is the easy of scrolling through the<br>
samples,but that switch click is so loud that it gets recorded<br>
everytime i loop anything(i have my mic going into the loops as well)<br>
I dont know why they replaced the old switches,they seem a lot<br>
quieter, think the Boss-RC30 will be better in that department.<br>
oh dont waste your time trying to call them or suggest<br>
improvements,their support is nada!<br>
Im also getting the RC-30 perhaps today or tomorrow to try out,im just<br>
using this for small pedalboard type of bar gigs and no racks,the<br>
RC-30 has an essential feature for me like the independent tracks,is<br>
too bad they didnt assign the undo/redo with the footswitch like the<br>
Digitech has,you still have to step on it 2 seconds impractical if u<br>
want ot do A-B arrangments grrr!<br>
oh well lets see if it beats the Digi<br>
cheers<br>
Luis<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Petri Lahtinen<br>
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com">kollegavalmentaja@gmail.=
com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Hi and thanks to everybody for your responses!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; BUT it seems that RC-50 is not available here in Finland, anymore.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The Roland headquarters is Denmark that supply gear to Nordic countrie=
s had<br>
&gt; replied to my store, that they dont have any RC-50&#39;s there.<br>
&gt; The chain of stores I use here in Finland, doesnt have not one unit he=
re. So<br>
&gt; will it become a discontinued product that gets replaced by the new RC=
-30...<br>
&gt; who knows...?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; SO I&#39;m getting the new RC-30 for test drive next week.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Looking at the manual, it seems pretty straightforward unit. Need extr=
a<br>
&gt; footswitch, which is always annoying.<br>
&gt; Probably nobody on the list doesnt have one of those, cause its so new=
 unit?<br>
&gt; Think it was 2011 January when the first units shipped.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; -Petri-<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 2011/4/26 Victor Eijkhout &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:victor@eijkhout.net">v=
ictor@eijkhout.net</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Apr 25, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Were there RC-50 users on the list?<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Check. Just bought it a month ago so I&#39;m still learning. Fun t=
oy though.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Victor.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; Petri Lahtinen<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.=
petrilahtinen.com</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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m</a><br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Petri Lahtinen<b=
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Maybe this has been covered already, but I was surprised to learn today whil=
e trying out the  rc 30 that the two tracks or "phrases" cannot be different=
 lengths. As in a one bar muted guitar strings rhythm on one track and a fou=
r bar chord progression on the other.=20

Am I missing something here?

John Floridis
509-290-0934
john@johnfloridis.com
Sent from my iPhone

On May 14, 2011, at 4:48 PM, Petri Lahtinen <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wr=
ote:

> Hi Louie!
>=20
> I bought the RC-30 and its really good.
> Silent switches, two tracks, the extra footswitch is small and fitted my p=
edalboard well.
> (FS-6) and with it you can do everything with feet. Well, not start the rh=
ythms, I mean the unit's own drum machine, that is.=20
>=20
> I dont do ABC or any other song forms nowadays, so I dont mind the undo's 2=
 sec thing.
>=20
> I'm really pleased with it, it surely fills my small needs as a looping de=
vice.
>=20
> -Petri-
>=20
>=20
> 2011/4/27 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
> Hi Petri,
> how funny that im doing the same thing!
> You arer absolutely right,that software is anoying,im preparing for a
> gig this saturday and it took me almost an hour to get some samples
> transfered to the Digitech from their flimsy software,there is a new
> firmware version which i installed prior to working with it,i dont
> know what that is meant for,i started importing wav files and in the
> middle of working it crashed bad and lost it all, so i had to restart
> again.Prior to that i was rehearsing with it and as i was scrolling
> through the samples the digitech froze and cound not get it to do
> anything so i reboot it and found out i had lost every other sample in
> a slot,luckly i had made a jam list backup so i retransfered all the
> files.
> what i do like about the digitech is the easy of scrolling through the
> samples,but that switch click is so loud that it gets recorded
> everytime i loop anything(i have my mic going into the loops as well)
> I dont know why they replaced the old switches,they seem a lot
> quieter, think the Boss-RC30 will be better in that department.
> oh dont waste your time trying to call them or suggest
> improvements,their support is nada!
> Im also getting the RC-30 perhaps today or tomorrow to try out,im just
> using this for small pedalboard type of bar gigs and no racks,the
> RC-30 has an essential feature for me like the independent tracks,is
> too bad they didnt assign the undo/redo with the footswitch like the
> Digitech has,you still have to step on it 2 seconds impractical if u
> want ot do A-B arrangments grrr!
> oh well lets see if it beats the Digi
> cheers
> Luis
>=20
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Petri Lahtinen
> <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi and thanks to everybody for your responses!
> >
> > BUT it seems that RC-50 is not available here in Finland, anymore.
> >
> > The Roland headquarters is Denmark that supply gear to Nordic countries h=
ad
> > replied to my store, that they dont have any RC-50's there.
> > The chain of stores I use here in Finland, doesnt have not one unit here=
. So
> > will it become a discontinued product that gets replaced by the new RC-3=
0...
> > who knows...?
> >
> > SO I'm getting the new RC-30 for test drive next week.
> >
> > Looking at the manual, it seems pretty straightforward unit. Need extra
> > footswitch, which is always annoying.
> > Probably nobody on the list doesnt have one of those, cause its so new u=
nit?
> > Think it was 2011 January when the first units shipped.
> >
> > -Petri-
> >
> > 2011/4/26 Victor Eijkhout <victor@eijkhout.net>
> >>
> >> On Apr 25, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote:
> >>
> >> > Were there RC-50 users on the list?
> >>
> >> Check. Just bought it a month ago so I'm still learning. Fun toy though=
.
> >>
> >> Victor.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Petri Lahtinen
> >
> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com
> >
> >
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --
> www.luis-angulo.com
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
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>=20
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<html><body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><div>Maybe this has been covered already, bu=
t I was surprised to learn today while trying out the &nbsp;rc 30 that the t=
wo tracks or "phrases" cannot be different lengths. As in a one bar muted gu=
itar strings rhythm on one track and a four bar chord progression on the oth=
er.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Am I missing something here?<br><br><div>=
John Floridis</div><div>509-290-0934</div><div><a href=3D"mailto:john@johnfl=
oridis.com">john@johnfloridis.com</a></div>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br=
>On May 14, 2011, at 4:48 PM, Petri Lahtinen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kollegava=
lmentaja@gmail.com">kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div>=
<div></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>Hi Louie!<br><br>I bought the RC-3=
0 and its really good.<br>Silent switches, two tracks, the extra footswitch i=
s small and fitted my pedalboard well.<br>(FS-6) and with it you can do ever=
ything with feet. Well, not start the rhythms, I mean the unit's own drum ma=
chine, that is. <br>
<br>I dont do ABC or any other song forms nowadays, so I dont mind the undo'=
s 2 sec thing.<br><br>I'm really pleased with it, it surely fills my small n=
eeds as a looping device.<br><br>-Petri-<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e">
2011/4/27 Louie Angulo <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:louie.angulo@=
googlemail.com"><a href=3D"mailto:louie.angulo@googlemail.com">louie.angulo@=
googlemail.com</a></a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); pa=
dding-left: 1ex;">
Hi Petri,<br>
how funny that im doing the same thing!<br>
You arer absolutely right,that software is anoying,im preparing for a<br>
gig this saturday and it took me almost an hour to get some samples<br>
transfered to the Digitech from their flimsy software,there is a new<br>
firmware version which i installed prior to working with it,i dont<br>
know what that is meant for,i started importing wav files and in the<br>
middle of working it crashed bad and lost it all, so i had to restart<br>
again.Prior to that i was rehearsing with it and as i was scrolling<br>
through the samples the digitech froze and cound not get it to do<br>
anything so i reboot it and found out i had lost every other sample in<br>
a slot,luckly i had made a jam list backup so i retransfered all the<br>
files.<br>
what i do like about the digitech is the easy of scrolling through the<br>
samples,but that switch click is so loud that it gets recorded<br>
everytime i loop anything(i have my mic going into the loops as well)<br>
I dont know why they replaced the old switches,they seem a lot<br>
quieter, think the Boss-RC30 will be better in that department.<br>
oh dont waste your time trying to call them or suggest<br>
improvements,their support is nada!<br>
Im also getting the RC-30 perhaps today or tomorrow to try out,im just<br>
using this for small pedalboard type of bar gigs and no racks,the<br>
RC-30 has an essential feature for me like the independent tracks,is<br>
too bad they didnt assign the undo/redo with the footswitch like the<br>
Digitech has,you still have to step on it 2 seconds impractical if u<br>
want ot do A-B arrangments grrr!<br>
oh well lets see if it beats the Digi<br>
cheers<br>
Luis<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Petri Lahtinen<br>
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com"><a href=3D"mailto:kollega=
valmentaja@gmail.com">kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com</a></a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Hi and thanks to everybody for your responses!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; BUT it seems that RC-50 is not available here in Finland, anymore.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The Roland headquarters is Denmark that supply gear to Nordic countries=
 had<br>
&gt; replied to my store, that they dont have any RC-50's there.<br>
&gt; The chain of stores I use here in Finland, doesnt have not one unit her=
e. So<br>
&gt; will it become a discontinued product that gets replaced by the new RC-=
30...<br>
&gt; who knows...?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; SO I'm getting the new RC-30 for test drive next week.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Looking at the manual, it seems pretty straightforward unit. Need extra=
<br>
&gt; footswitch, which is always annoying.<br>
&gt; Probably nobody on the list doesnt have one of those, cause its so new u=
nit?<br>
&gt; Think it was 2011 January when the first units shipped.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; -Petri-<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 2011/4/26 Victor Eijkhout &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:victor@eijkhout.net"><a=
 href=3D"mailto:victor@eijkhout.net">victor@eijkhout.net</a></a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Apr 25, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Were there RC-50 users on the list?<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Check. Just bought it a month ago so I'm still learning. Fun toy th=
ough.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Victor.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; Petri Lahtinen<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com" target=3D"_blank"><a href=3D"h=
ttp://www.petrilahtinen.com">http://www.petrilahtinen.com</a></a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
<br>
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On May 14, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Johnfloridis.com wrote:

> Maybe this has been covered already, but I was surprised to learn =
today while trying out the  rc 30 that the two tracks or "phrases" =
cannot be different lengths.=20

Same limitation on the EH looper. And that one is not cheap. Get an =
RC-50 if you want independent lengths.

Victor.

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Thanks. Already have RC 50. But was hoping this could fit into smaller set u=
p and at least have two phrases to work with of different lengths. Seems lik=
e it would make sense to have that, but what do I know.=20

I understand that the new Rang has a small footprint.=20


John Floridis
john@johnfloridis.com


On May 14, 2011, at 5:07 PM, Victor Eijkhout <victor@eijkhout.net> wrote:

>=20
> On May 14, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Johnfloridis.com wrote:
>=20
>> Maybe this has been covered already, but I was surprised to learn today w=
hile trying out the  rc 30 that the two tracks or "phrases" cannot be differ=
ent lengths.=20
>=20
> Same limitation on the EH looper. And that one is not cheap. Get an RC-50 i=
f you want independent lengths.
>=20
> Victor.
>=20
>=20

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One of these days i'll comb the stuff I was able to save on DVD from  
my last computer  death and post it.
  Thanks for posting that Andy and you are right, pitch shift and  
tempo cannot be separated on an LP-1 like they can on a Repeater, i'm  
not sure where I got that notion...a dream perhaps?  A small price to  
pay for all the extra things you can do on the Looperlative. I can  
honestly say as cool as that trick was i don't miss it or lugging  
around a midi guitar module and its craptastic sounds, an extra cable  
dangling from my guitar, and a midi router to make it all go. I'm  
enjoying the relative simplicity of my current rig for sure. No lack  
of options and yet not so many that i spend all my time twiddling knobs.
  A favorite  technique i have started to use again on the LP-1 is the  
fast scramble function. This feature chops your loop in to an even  
number of smaller bits and randomizes them, the length of the loop  
determines how fast the scramble tempo is. shorter loops create faster  
scrambles, longer loops create slower scrambles.   I use this while  
leaving myself in overdub mode with my expression pedal varying the  
feedback from about 90 to 40% so that what ever content I am over  
dubbing is continually fading away as new content is added.. the  
higher the percentage the longer the fade etc...  Using it in this  
way  creates a shimmering kind of random bed of notes that depending  
on my playing technique, attack,  tone, key etc. can sound either  
lush,  beautiful and ambient but percolating, or jagged and jerky and  
random and way abstract. .  I've lately been experimenting with  
creating 3 or 4 tracks of these scramble loops with different tonal  
centers and moving between them to create progressions. I'll post  
something on Youtube soon.
Bill

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If you don't need MIDI sync, you could look at the Boomerang III.

Mark

On May 14, 2011, at 5:11 PM, Johnfloridis.com wrote:

> Thanks. Already have RC 50. But was hoping this could fit into smaller =
set up and at least have two phrases to work with of different lengths. =
Seems like it would make sense to have that, but what do I know.=20
>=20
> I understand that the new Rang has a small footprint.=20
>=20
>=20
> John Floridis
> john@johnfloridis.com
>=20
>=20
> On May 14, 2011, at 5:07 PM, Victor Eijkhout <victor@eijkhout.net> =
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>>=20
>> On May 14, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Johnfloridis.com wrote:
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>>> Maybe this has been covered already, but I was surprised to learn =
today while trying out the  rc 30 that the two tracks or "phrases" =
cannot be different lengths.=20
>>=20
>> Same limitation on the EH looper. And that one is not cheap. Get an =
RC-50 if you want independent lengths.
>>=20
>> Victor.
>>=20
>>=20
>=20
>=20

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On May 14, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote:

> On May 13, 2011, at 6:20 AM, p koniuto wrote:
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>>> Anyone selling a little half rack EQ killer?
>>=20
>> Hands down one of my favorite pieces of gear!  Wish i had more than =
just one.
>=20
> Electrix EQ Killer with manual, power supply, and box. Little or no =
road time. (No guarantees on the rack ears. I'm still hunting for those. =
I have one actual rack ear and one connector, but I'm missing the screws =
for mounting one of them on the unit. I will keep hunting.)
>=20
> $75 + shipping from Seattle (based on a discount from Prepal and a =
skim of eBay).

I also have a Filter Queen that would probably be available under =
similar terms (though it does have both rack ears attached but no join =
plate in sight).

Mark

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This is what Bob said in a recent blog post:
>
> " The LP1 is currently out of production because I simply can't afford 
> to sit on inventory. The profit margin is extremely low on the LP1 and 
> for me to have units around is costly to me. After the LP2 is 
> shipping, I will do a redesign on the LP1 electronics to reduce cost. 
> The software in the current LP1s will continue to be used in new LP1s."
>
>
>
What Bob told me is that if there is a group buy of 12 people at the 
lowest price he can afford to sell it ($1200 per LP-1)
that he will make another run of LP-1s.

I've heard that there about a half a dozen people looking for one now, 
for what that's worth.

It might be worth people who are interested's while to see if they can 
organize such a buy.

yours,   Rick Walker

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Have you folks heard about this:

http://youtu.be/kxSHQNGmTQ8

Alesis iO Dock for iPad?


toby

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On May 14, 2011, at 11:18 PM, Toby G wrote:

> Alesis iO Dock for iPad?
>=20

I tried looping on an iPad with EverydayLooper, but got sick of all the =
cables. This thing should improve that to a great extent.

Victor.

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thats more like it Simeon though not cheap,i found a place where you
can buy bricks of rubber and have them cut to your need so i might
just do that.
Thanx!
Luis


On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Simeon Harris
<simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
> bricks with foam or rubber pads on top.
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0002D0B4K/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=103612307&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B002CR9X2A&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=0ANZNEWXWMSTJPN9VQE4
> there's nothing special about the foam that they use for these, you could
> probably find some cheaper stuff somewhere and cut it to size
> sim
>
> On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> well that sounds good but if i dont know if house brix isloate
>> well,wood is a good idea.
>> i guess what i m looking for is brix type but made of rubber to
>> isolate frequencies as well and so the speakers seat stable and dont
>> shake at all!
>> cheers
>> Luis
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Jeffrey Collins
>> <jeffreycollins1975@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I recommend just going to your local home center and building them from
>> > the
>> > wood they have there. it'll end up way beefier and cheaper than what you
>> > would buy at a place like musicians friend.
>> >
>> > Cheers.
>> > Jeffrey
>> >
>> > On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 4:41 AM, Louie Angulo
>> > <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> hey gang,
>> >> Im looking for some desktop stands for my JBL studio monitors,they sit
>> >> too low and id like to raise them about 15 to 20 cm from the surface
>> >> of my desk.
>> >> There are a lot of monitor stands all the way form the floor but i
>> >> dont have much space to have them,most of those have very wide feet.
>> >> is there anything out there you can recomend?
>> >> thanx
>> >> Luis
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> www.luis-angulo.com
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> www.luis-angulo.com
>>
>
>



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Hi Petr,
yes i tried it but decided to keep the Digitech for what i do,it would
have been nice if those 2 independent tracks could be different in
length as if u multiplied so i really didnt see much of an advantage
i didnt like that you had to press undo for 2 seconds or to change
parts without the switch,for what i do is a bit tedious since im
singing as well.
But the switches are really nice,i might have the Digis changed for
quieter ones!
Luis

On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Petri Lahtinen
<kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Louie!
>
> I bought the RC-30 and its really good.
> Silent switches, two tracks, the extra footswitch is small and fitted my
> pedalboard well.
> (FS-6) and with it you can do everything with feet. Well, not start the
> rhythms, I mean the unit's own drum machine, that is.
>
> I dont do ABC or any other song forms nowadays, so I dont mind the undo's 2
> sec thing.
>
> I'm really pleased with it, it surely fills my small needs as a looping
> device.
>
> -Petri-
>
>
> 2011/4/27 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
>>
>> Hi Petri,
>> how funny that im doing the same thing!
>> You arer absolutely right,that software is anoying,im preparing for a
>> gig this saturday and it took me almost an hour to get some samples
>> transfered to the Digitech from their flimsy software,there is a new
>> firmware version which i installed prior to working with it,i dont
>> know what that is meant for,i started importing wav files and in the
>> middle of working it crashed bad and lost it all, so i had to restart
>> again.Prior to that i was rehearsing with it and as i was scrolling
>> through the samples the digitech froze and cound not get it to do
>> anything so i reboot it and found out i had lost every other sample in
>> a slot,luckly i had made a jam list backup so i retransfered all the
>> files.
>> what i do like about the digitech is the easy of scrolling through the
>> samples,but that switch click is so loud that it gets recorded
>> everytime i loop anything(i have my mic going into the loops as well)
>> I dont know why they replaced the old switches,they seem a lot
>> quieter, think the Boss-RC30 will be better in that department.
>> oh dont waste your time trying to call them or suggest
>> improvements,their support is nada!
>> Im also getting the RC-30 perhaps today or tomorrow to try out,im just
>> using this for small pedalboard type of bar gigs and no racks,the
>> RC-30 has an essential feature for me like the independent tracks,is
>> too bad they didnt assign the undo/redo with the footswitch like the
>> Digitech has,you still have to step on it 2 seconds impractical if u
>> want ot do A-B arrangments grrr!
>> oh well lets see if it beats the Digi
>> cheers
>> Luis
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Petri Lahtinen
>> <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi and thanks to everybody for your responses!
>> >
>> > BUT it seems that RC-50 is not available here in Finland, anymore.
>> >
>> > The Roland headquarters is Denmark that supply gear to Nordic countries
>> > had
>> > replied to my store, that they dont have any RC-50's there.
>> > The chain of stores I use here in Finland, doesnt have not one unit
>> > here. So
>> > will it become a discontinued product that gets replaced by the new
>> > RC-30...
>> > who knows...?
>> >
>> > SO I'm getting the new RC-30 for test drive next week.
>> >
>> > Looking at the manual, it seems pretty straightforward unit. Need extra
>> > footswitch, which is always annoying.
>> > Probably nobody on the list doesnt have one of those, cause its so new
>> > unit?
>> > Think it was 2011 January when the first units shipped.
>> >
>> > -Petri-
>> >
>> > 2011/4/26 Victor Eijkhout <victor@eijkhout.net>
>> >>
>> >> On Apr 25, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Were there RC-50 users on the list?
>> >>
>> >> Check. Just bought it a month ago so I'm still learning. Fun toy
>> >> though.
>> >>
>> >> Victor.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Petri Lahtinen
>> >
>> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
>
>
>
> --
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>
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>
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William Walker wrote:

>  A favorite  technique i have started to use again on the LP-1 is the 
> fast scramble function. This feature chops your loop in to an even 
> number of smaller bits and randomizes them, the length of the loop 
> determines how fast the scramble tempo is. shorter loops create faster 
> scrambles, longer loops create slower scrambles.  

huh?
I was certain that the size of the scrambled chunks
was fixed to a choice 3 different  values unrelated to loop
length. 
Is that new in 1.39?
..and unpublicised??

andy

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On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 6:18 AM, Toby G <carpet8@mac.com> wrote:
> Have you folks heard about this:
> http://youtu.be/kxSHQNGmTQ8
> Alesis iO Dock for iPad?

Yes. What I've heard is that it works well. The question is rather
whether an iPad is strong enough to handle what you want to do.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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I think many limitations with these hardware loopers can be turned into
possibilities.

I myself want limitations, the music itself is so vast se to dive in  :-D

Or maybe I'm just losing my friggin mind...

Louie->The software on Digitech stopped working on my XP-machine, so the
unit became a piece of metal to me. RC-30's memory, you can access it as a
norma USB-memory.
No software needed. I think Digitech made a huge mistake by closing the
JamMan Stereo's memory by making it accessible only with their piece of ****
software, that's programmed on Microsoft Silverlight, which is a joke in
itself.

Sorry, a quite a burst of sentiment, but those are MHO's, at this time.

:-D

-Petri-

2011/5/15 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>

> Hi Petr,
> yes i tried it but decided to keep the Digitech for what i do,it would
> have been nice if those 2 independent tracks could be different in
> length as if u multiplied so i really didnt see much of an advantage
> i didnt like that you had to press undo for 2 seconds or to change
> parts without the switch,for what i do is a bit tedious since im
> singing as well.
> But the switches are really nice,i might have the Digis changed for
> quieter ones!
> Luis
>
> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Petri Lahtinen
> <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Louie!
> >
> > I bought the RC-30 and its really good.
> > Silent switches, two tracks, the extra footswitch is small and fitted my
> > pedalboard well.
> > (FS-6) and with it you can do everything with feet. Well, not start the
> > rhythms, I mean the unit's own drum machine, that is.
> >
> > I dont do ABC or any other song forms nowadays, so I dont mind the undo's
> 2
> > sec thing.
> >
> > I'm really pleased with it, it surely fills my small needs as a looping
> > device.
> >
> > -Petri-
> >
> >
> > 2011/4/27 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
> >>
> >> Hi Petri,
> >> how funny that im doing the same thing!
> >> You arer absolutely right,that software is anoying,im preparing for a
> >> gig this saturday and it took me almost an hour to get some samples
> >> transfered to the Digitech from their flimsy software,there is a new
> >> firmware version which i installed prior to working with it,i dont
> >> know what that is meant for,i started importing wav files and in the
> >> middle of working it crashed bad and lost it all, so i had to restart
> >> again.Prior to that i was rehearsing with it and as i was scrolling
> >> through the samples the digitech froze and cound not get it to do
> >> anything so i reboot it and found out i had lost every other sample in
> >> a slot,luckly i had made a jam list backup so i retransfered all the
> >> files.
> >> what i do like about the digitech is the easy of scrolling through the
> >> samples,but that switch click is so loud that it gets recorded
> >> everytime i loop anything(i have my mic going into the loops as well)
> >> I dont know why they replaced the old switches,they seem a lot
> >> quieter, think the Boss-RC30 will be better in that department.
> >> oh dont waste your time trying to call them or suggest
> >> improvements,their support is nada!
> >> Im also getting the RC-30 perhaps today or tomorrow to try out,im just
> >> using this for small pedalboard type of bar gigs and no racks,the
> >> RC-30 has an essential feature for me like the independent tracks,is
> >> too bad they didnt assign the undo/redo with the footswitch like the
> >> Digitech has,you still have to step on it 2 seconds impractical if u
> >> want ot do A-B arrangments grrr!
> >> oh well lets see if it beats the Digi
> >> cheers
> >> Luis
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Petri Lahtinen
> >> <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Hi and thanks to everybody for your responses!
> >> >
> >> > BUT it seems that RC-50 is not available here in Finland, anymore.
> >> >
> >> > The Roland headquarters is Denmark that supply gear to Nordic
> countries
> >> > had
> >> > replied to my store, that they dont have any RC-50's there.
> >> > The chain of stores I use here in Finland, doesnt have not one unit
> >> > here. So
> >> > will it become a discontinued product that gets replaced by the new
> >> > RC-30...
> >> > who knows...?
> >> >
> >> > SO I'm getting the new RC-30 for test drive next week.
> >> >
> >> > Looking at the manual, it seems pretty straightforward unit. Need
> extra
> >> > footswitch, which is always annoying.
> >> > Probably nobody on the list doesnt have one of those, cause its so new
> >> > unit?
> >> > Think it was 2011 January when the first units shipped.
> >> >
> >> > -Petri-
> >> >
> >> > 2011/4/26 Victor Eijkhout <victor@eijkhout.net>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Apr 25, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Were there RC-50 users on the list?
> >> >>
> >> >> Check. Just bought it a month ago so I'm still learning. Fun toy
> >> >> though.
> >> >>
> >> >> Victor.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Petri Lahtinen
> >> >
> >> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> www.luis-angulo.com
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Petri Lahtinen
> >
> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> www.luis-angulo.com
>
>


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I think many limitations with these hardware loopers can be turned into pos=
sibilities.<br><br>I myself want limitations, the music itself is so vast s=
e to dive in=A0 :-D<br><br>Or maybe I&#39;m just losing my friggin mind...<=
br>
<br>Louie-&gt;The software on Digitech stopped working on my XP-machine, so=
 the unit became a piece of metal to me. RC-30&#39;s memory, you can access=
 it as a norma USB-memory.<br>No software needed. I think Digitech made a h=
uge mistake by closing the JamMan Stereo&#39;s memory by making it accessib=
le only with their piece of **** software, that&#39;s programmed on Microso=
ft Silverlight, which is a joke in itself.<br>
<br>Sorry, a quite a burst of sentiment, but those are MHO&#39;s, at this t=
ime.<br><br>:-D<br><br>-Petri-<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/5/15 =
Louie Angulo <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:louie.angulo@googlemai=
l.com">louie.angulo@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Hi Petr,<br>
yes i tried it but decided to keep the Digitech for what i do,it would<br>
have been nice if those 2 independent tracks could be different in<br>
length as if u multiplied so i really didnt see much of an advantage<br>
i didnt like that you had to press undo for 2 seconds or to change<br>
parts without the switch,for what i do is a bit tedious since im<br>
singing as well.<br>
But the switches are really nice,i might have the Digis changed for<br>
quieter ones!<br>
Luis<br>
<br>
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Petri Lahtinen<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kollegavalmentaja@g=
mail.com">kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Hi Louie!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I bought the RC-30 and its really good.<br>
&gt; Silent switches, two tracks, the extra footswitch is small and fitted =
my<br>
&gt; pedalboard well.<br>
&gt; (FS-6) and with it you can do everything with feet. Well, not start th=
e<br>
&gt; rhythms, I mean the unit&#39;s own drum machine, that is.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I dont do ABC or any other song forms nowadays, so I dont mind the und=
o&#39;s 2<br>
&gt; sec thing.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I&#39;m really pleased with it, it surely fills my small needs as a lo=
oping<br>
&gt; device.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; -Petri-<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 2011/4/27 Louie Angulo &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:louie.angulo@googlemail.c=
om">louie.angulo@googlemail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Hi Petri,<br>
&gt;&gt; how funny that im doing the same thing!<br>
&gt;&gt; You arer absolutely right,that software is anoying,im preparing fo=
r a<br>
&gt;&gt; gig this saturday and it took me almost an hour to get some sample=
s<br>
&gt;&gt; transfered to the Digitech from their flimsy software,there is a n=
ew<br>
&gt;&gt; firmware version which i installed prior to working with it,i dont=
<br>
&gt;&gt; know what that is meant for,i started importing wav files and in t=
he<br>
&gt;&gt; middle of working it crashed bad and lost it all, so i had to rest=
art<br>
&gt;&gt; again.Prior to that i was rehearsing with it and as i was scrollin=
g<br>
&gt;&gt; through the samples the digitech froze and cound not get it to do<=
br>
&gt;&gt; anything so i reboot it and found out i had lost every other sampl=
e in<br>
&gt;&gt; a slot,luckly i had made a jam list backup so i retransfered all t=
he<br>
&gt;&gt; files.<br>
&gt;&gt; what i do like about the digitech is the easy of scrolling through=
 the<br>
&gt;&gt; samples,but that switch click is so loud that it gets recorded<br>
&gt;&gt; everytime i loop anything(i have my mic going into the loops as we=
ll)<br>
&gt;&gt; I dont know why they replaced the old switches,they seem a lot<br>
&gt;&gt; quieter, think the Boss-RC30 will be better in that department.<br=
>
&gt;&gt; oh dont waste your time trying to call them or suggest<br>
&gt;&gt; improvements,their support is nada!<br>
&gt;&gt; Im also getting the RC-30 perhaps today or tomorrow to try out,im =
just<br>
&gt;&gt; using this for small pedalboard type of bar gigs and no racks,the<=
br>
&gt;&gt; RC-30 has an essential feature for me like the independent tracks,=
is<br>
&gt;&gt; too bad they didnt assign the undo/redo with the footswitch like t=
he<br>
&gt;&gt; Digitech has,you still have to step on it 2 seconds impractical if=
 u<br>
&gt;&gt; want ot do A-B arrangments grrr!<br>
&gt;&gt; oh well lets see if it beats the Digi<br>
&gt;&gt; cheers<br>
&gt;&gt; Luis<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Petri Lahtinen<br>
&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com">kollegavalmenta=
ja@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Hi and thanks to everybody for your responses!<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; BUT it seems that RC-50 is not available here in Finland, any=
more.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; The Roland headquarters is Denmark that supply gear to Nordic=
 countries<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; had<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; replied to my store, that they dont have any RC-50&#39;s ther=
e.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; The chain of stores I use here in Finland, doesnt have not on=
e unit<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; here. So<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; will it become a discontinued product that gets replaced by t=
he new<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; RC-30...<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; who knows...?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; SO I&#39;m getting the new RC-30 for test drive next week.<br=
>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Looking at the manual, it seems pretty straightforward unit. =
Need extra<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; footswitch, which is always annoying.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Probably nobody on the list doesnt have one of those, cause i=
ts so new<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; unit?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Think it was 2011 January when the first units shipped.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; -Petri-<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; 2011/4/26 Victor Eijkhout &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:victor@eijkho=
ut.net">victor@eijkhout.net</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; On Apr 25, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Were there RC-50 users on the list?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Check. Just bought it a month ago so I&#39;m still learni=
ng. Fun toy<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; though.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Victor.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Petri Lahtinen<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; <a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tp://www.petrilahtinen.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.luis-angulo.com" target=3D"_blank">www.luis-=
angulo.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; Petri Lahtinen<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.=
petrilahtinen.com</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</div></div><font color=3D"#888888">--<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.luis-angulo.com" target=3D"_blank">www.luis-angulo.co=
m</a><br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Petri Lahtinen<b=
r><br><a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www=
.petrilahtinen.com</a><br><br>

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("vast sea to dive in" was the sentence....)

2011/5/15 Petri Lahtinen <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com>

> I think many limitations with these hardware loopers can be turned into
> possibilities.
>
> I myself want limitations, the music itself is so vast se to dive in  :-D
>
> Or maybe I'm just losing my friggin mind...
>
> Louie->The software on Digitech stopped working on my XP-machine, so the
> unit became a piece of metal to me. RC-30's memory, you can access it as a
> norma USB-memory.
> No software needed. I think Digitech made a huge mistake by closing the
> JamMan Stereo's memory by making it accessible only with their piece of ****
> software, that's programmed on Microsoft Silverlight, which is a joke in
> itself.
>
> Sorry, a quite a burst of sentiment, but those are MHO's, at this time.
>
> :-D
>
> -Petri-
>
>
> 2011/5/15 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
>
>> Hi Petr,
>> yes i tried it but decided to keep the Digitech for what i do,it would
>> have been nice if those 2 independent tracks could be different in
>> length as if u multiplied so i really didnt see much of an advantage
>> i didnt like that you had to press undo for 2 seconds or to change
>> parts without the switch,for what i do is a bit tedious since im
>> singing as well.
>> But the switches are really nice,i might have the Digis changed for
>> quieter ones!
>> Luis
>>
>> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Petri Lahtinen
>> <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi Louie!
>> >
>> > I bought the RC-30 and its really good.
>> > Silent switches, two tracks, the extra footswitch is small and fitted my
>> > pedalboard well.
>> > (FS-6) and with it you can do everything with feet. Well, not start the
>> > rhythms, I mean the unit's own drum machine, that is.
>> >
>> > I dont do ABC or any other song forms nowadays, so I dont mind the
>> undo's 2
>> > sec thing.
>> >
>> > I'm really pleased with it, it surely fills my small needs as a looping
>> > device.
>> >
>> > -Petri-
>> >
>> >
>> > 2011/4/27 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
>> >>
>> >> Hi Petri,
>> >> how funny that im doing the same thing!
>> >> You arer absolutely right,that software is anoying,im preparing for a
>> >> gig this saturday and it took me almost an hour to get some samples
>> >> transfered to the Digitech from their flimsy software,there is a new
>> >> firmware version which i installed prior to working with it,i dont
>> >> know what that is meant for,i started importing wav files and in the
>> >> middle of working it crashed bad and lost it all, so i had to restart
>> >> again.Prior to that i was rehearsing with it and as i was scrolling
>> >> through the samples the digitech froze and cound not get it to do
>> >> anything so i reboot it and found out i had lost every other sample in
>> >> a slot,luckly i had made a jam list backup so i retransfered all the
>> >> files.
>> >> what i do like about the digitech is the easy of scrolling through the
>> >> samples,but that switch click is so loud that it gets recorded
>> >> everytime i loop anything(i have my mic going into the loops as well)
>> >> I dont know why they replaced the old switches,they seem a lot
>> >> quieter, think the Boss-RC30 will be better in that department.
>> >> oh dont waste your time trying to call them or suggest
>> >> improvements,their support is nada!
>> >> Im also getting the RC-30 perhaps today or tomorrow to try out,im just
>> >> using this for small pedalboard type of bar gigs and no racks,the
>> >> RC-30 has an essential feature for me like the independent tracks,is
>> >> too bad they didnt assign the undo/redo with the footswitch like the
>> >> Digitech has,you still have to step on it 2 seconds impractical if u
>> >> want ot do A-B arrangments grrr!
>> >> oh well lets see if it beats the Digi
>> >> cheers
>> >> Luis
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Petri Lahtinen
>> >> <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Hi and thanks to everybody for your responses!
>> >> >
>> >> > BUT it seems that RC-50 is not available here in Finland, anymore.
>> >> >
>> >> > The Roland headquarters is Denmark that supply gear to Nordic
>> countries
>> >> > had
>> >> > replied to my store, that they dont have any RC-50's there.
>> >> > The chain of stores I use here in Finland, doesnt have not one unit
>> >> > here. So
>> >> > will it become a discontinued product that gets replaced by the new
>> >> > RC-30...
>> >> > who knows...?
>> >> >
>> >> > SO I'm getting the new RC-30 for test drive next week.
>> >> >
>> >> > Looking at the manual, it seems pretty straightforward unit. Need
>> extra
>> >> > footswitch, which is always annoying.
>> >> > Probably nobody on the list doesnt have one of those, cause its so
>> new
>> >> > unit?
>> >> > Think it was 2011 January when the first units shipped.
>> >> >
>> >> > -Petri-
>> >> >
>> >> > 2011/4/26 Victor Eijkhout <victor@eijkhout.net>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Apr 25, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Were there RC-50 users on the list?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Check. Just bought it a month ago so I'm still learning. Fun toy
>> >> >> though.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Victor.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Petri Lahtinen
>> >> >
>> >> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> www.luis-angulo.com
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Petri Lahtinen
>> >
>> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> www.luis-angulo.com
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Petri Lahtinen
>
> http://www.petrilahtinen.com
>
>


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(&quot;vast sea to dive in&quot; was the sentence....)<br><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote">2011/5/15 Petri Lahtinen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com">kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>=
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">I think many limi=
tations with these hardware loopers can be turned into possibilities.<br><b=
r>
I myself want limitations, the music itself is so vast se to dive in=A0 :-D=
<br><br>Or maybe I&#39;m just losing my friggin mind...<br>
<br>Louie-&gt;The software on Digitech stopped working on my XP-machine, so=
 the unit became a piece of metal to me. RC-30&#39;s memory, you can access=
 it as a norma USB-memory.<br>No software needed. I think Digitech made a h=
uge mistake by closing the JamMan Stereo&#39;s memory by making it accessib=
le only with their piece of **** software, that&#39;s programmed on Microso=
ft Silverlight, which is a joke in itself.<br>

<br>Sorry, a quite a burst of sentiment, but those are MHO&#39;s, at this t=
ime.<br><br>:-D<br><font color=3D"#888888"><br>-Petri-</font><div><div></di=
v><div class=3D"h5"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/5/15 Louie Angu=
lo <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:louie.angulo@googlemail.com" tar=
get=3D"_blank">louie.angulo@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Hi Petr,<br>
yes i tried it but decided to keep the Digitech for what i do,it would<br>
have been nice if those 2 independent tracks could be different in<br>
length as if u multiplied so i really didnt see much of an advantage<br>
i didnt like that you had to press undo for 2 seconds or to change<br>
parts without the switch,for what i do is a bit tedious since im<br>
singing as well.<br>
But the switches are really nice,i might have the Digis changed for<br>
quieter ones!<br>
Luis<br>
<br>
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Petri Lahtinen<br>
<div><div></div><div>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com" tar=
get=3D"_blank">kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Hi Louie!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I bought the RC-30 and its really good.<br>
&gt; Silent switches, two tracks, the extra footswitch is small and fitted =
my<br>
&gt; pedalboard well.<br>
&gt; (FS-6) and with it you can do everything with feet. Well, not start th=
e<br>
&gt; rhythms, I mean the unit&#39;s own drum machine, that is.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I dont do ABC or any other song forms nowadays, so I dont mind the und=
o&#39;s 2<br>
&gt; sec thing.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I&#39;m really pleased with it, it surely fills my small needs as a lo=
oping<br>
&gt; device.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; -Petri-<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 2011/4/27 Louie Angulo &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:louie.angulo@googlemail.c=
om" target=3D"_blank">louie.angulo@googlemail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Hi Petri,<br>
&gt;&gt; how funny that im doing the same thing!<br>
&gt;&gt; You arer absolutely right,that software is anoying,im preparing fo=
r a<br>
&gt;&gt; gig this saturday and it took me almost an hour to get some sample=
s<br>
&gt;&gt; transfered to the Digitech from their flimsy software,there is a n=
ew<br>
&gt;&gt; firmware version which i installed prior to working with it,i dont=
<br>
&gt;&gt; know what that is meant for,i started importing wav files and in t=
he<br>
&gt;&gt; middle of working it crashed bad and lost it all, so i had to rest=
art<br>
&gt;&gt; again.Prior to that i was rehearsing with it and as i was scrollin=
g<br>
&gt;&gt; through the samples the digitech froze and cound not get it to do<=
br>
&gt;&gt; anything so i reboot it and found out i had lost every other sampl=
e in<br>
&gt;&gt; a slot,luckly i had made a jam list backup so i retransfered all t=
he<br>
&gt;&gt; files.<br>
&gt;&gt; what i do like about the digitech is the easy of scrolling through=
 the<br>
&gt;&gt; samples,but that switch click is so loud that it gets recorded<br>
&gt;&gt; everytime i loop anything(i have my mic going into the loops as we=
ll)<br>
&gt;&gt; I dont know why they replaced the old switches,they seem a lot<br>
&gt;&gt; quieter, think the Boss-RC30 will be better in that department.<br=
>
&gt;&gt; oh dont waste your time trying to call them or suggest<br>
&gt;&gt; improvements,their support is nada!<br>
&gt;&gt; Im also getting the RC-30 perhaps today or tomorrow to try out,im =
just<br>
&gt;&gt; using this for small pedalboard type of bar gigs and no racks,the<=
br>
&gt;&gt; RC-30 has an essential feature for me like the independent tracks,=
is<br>
&gt;&gt; too bad they didnt assign the undo/redo with the footswitch like t=
he<br>
&gt;&gt; Digitech has,you still have to step on it 2 seconds impractical if=
 u<br>
&gt;&gt; want ot do A-B arrangments grrr!<br>
&gt;&gt; oh well lets see if it beats the Digi<br>
&gt;&gt; cheers<br>
&gt;&gt; Luis<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Petri Lahtinen<br>
&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com" target=3D"_blan=
k">kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Hi and thanks to everybody for your responses!<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; BUT it seems that RC-50 is not available here in Finland, any=
more.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; The Roland headquarters is Denmark that supply gear to Nordic=
 countries<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; had<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; replied to my store, that they dont have any RC-50&#39;s ther=
e.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; The chain of stores I use here in Finland, doesnt have not on=
e unit<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; here. So<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; will it become a discontinued product that gets replaced by t=
he new<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; RC-30...<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; who knows...?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; SO I&#39;m getting the new RC-30 for test drive next week.<br=
>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Looking at the manual, it seems pretty straightforward unit. =
Need extra<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; footswitch, which is always annoying.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Probably nobody on the list doesnt have one of those, cause i=
ts so new<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; unit?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Think it was 2011 January when the first units shipped.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; -Petri-<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; 2011/4/26 Victor Eijkhout &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:victor@eijkho=
ut.net" target=3D"_blank">victor@eijkhout.net</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; On Apr 25, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Were there RC-50 users on the list?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Check. Just bought it a month ago so I&#39;m still learni=
ng. Fun toy<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; though.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Victor.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Petri Lahtinen<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; <a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tp://www.petrilahtinen.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.luis-angulo.com" target=3D"_blank">www.luis-=
angulo.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; Petri Lahtinen<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.=
petrilahtinen.com</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</div></div><font color=3D"#888888">--<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.luis-angulo.com" target=3D"_blank">www.luis-angulo.co=
m</a><br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br></div></div>-- <br><div=
><div></div><div class=3D"h5">Petri Lahtinen<br><br><a href=3D"http://www.p=
etrilahtinen.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.petrilahtinen.com</a><br><br=
>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Petri Lahti=
nen<br><br><a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com" target=3D"_blank">http:=
//www.petrilahtinen.com</a><br><br>

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andy butler wrote:
> 
> 
> William Walker wrote:
> 
>>  A favorite  technique i have started to use again on the LP-1 is the 
>> fast scramble function. This feature chops your loop in to an even 
>> number of smaller bits and randomizes them, the length of the loop 
>> determines how fast the scramble tempo is. shorter loops create faster 
>> scrambles, longer loops create slower scrambles.  
> 
> huh?
> I was certain that the size of the scrambled chunks
> was fixed to a choice 3 different  values unrelated to loop
> length. Is that new in 1.39?
> ..and unpublicised??

hmm, I'm getting consistent chunk sizes of 92mS when trying out a few random loop lengths.
(with the odd left over bits at the loop end)


...but indeed it's *sounding* like a groove.

Is there something I'm missing here?

Hopefully it will be soon possible to have scramble connected to
the Q value for the loop.

One neat trick is to fill a loop with a wash of sound,
then use feedback at zero for half the duration of the loop.
After that manoeuvre scramble creates a nice chopped up rhythm.


andy (again)
> 
> andy
> 
> 

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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote:
>
> huh?
> I was certain that the size of the scrambled chunks
> was fixed to a choice 3 different  values unrelated to loop
> length. Is that new in 1.39?
> ..and unpublicised??
>

No,  the scramble function has always been arbitrary (with three 
different speeds) set to fixed values
since the inception of the LP-1.   It's been one of my favorite 'tricks' 
in the LP-1.

There may be plans afoot (hint, hint,  Andy)  to tie the scramble 
function to different Q-values so that it
can be more controllable and musical (setting Q value to whatever 
integer that one wants to use in deterimining
a 'sub pulse' for a piece of music.

In that same breath ,   a very cool effect is to set one's loop to , 
say,  fast scramble,  and then use the
Sync/Bounce function to send it to a new track.................by 
truncating the new track to whatever
length of time one wants,   you have the ability to take a loop and 
constrain it to any odd time signature
that your little heart desires.

I'm surprised that more LP-1 users don't use this constraining function.

rick walker

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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote:
> One neat trick is to fill a loop with a wash of sound,
> then use feedback at zero for half the duration of the loop.
> After that manoeuvre scramble creates a nice chopped up rhythm.
>
>
> andy (again) 
That's friggin' brilliant, Andy..............what the f*ck didn't I 
think of that!!!!!

Shit,  that's awesome.........I can't wake up tomorrow and try it out.

You are a genius, buddy!

rick walker

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Sound like what I was messing around with last night. I'm just =
discovering the joys of Shuffle in Mobius with it's value set to random. =
I can layer up a string pad type of loop and even though it's random it =
always sounds awesome as long as I have the 8ths cycle set to a good =
value....depending on the loop length.
-Todd
On May 15, 2011, at 7:38 AM, Rick Walker wrote:

> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote:
>>=20
>> huh?
>> I was certain that the size of the scrambled chunks
>> was fixed to a choice 3 different  values unrelated to loop
>> length. Is that new in 1.39?
>> ..and unpublicised??
>>=20
>=20
> No,  the scramble function has always been arbitrary (with three =
different speeds) set to fixed values
> since the inception of the LP-1.   It's been one of my favorite =
'tricks' in the LP-1.
>=20
>=20

Todd Matthews
toddbass.com
twitter: gtodd876

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On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:58 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> Hopefully it will be soon possible to have scramble connected to
> the Q value for the loop.

Like dividing the loop into a specified number of segments? (like the
EDP and Mobius does) That would be cool because the player can swap
between a division based on four and three (or whatever) to instantly
create a more complex texture.

> One neat trick is to fill a loop with a wash of sound,
> then use feedback at zero for half the duration of the loop.
> After that manoeuvre scramble creates a nice chopped up rhythm.

Interesting! I'll remember that to try out. :-)

Per

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one really nice thing you can do with the lp-1 which you can't do with
mobius, is this...

create an empty loop
hit scramble (medium works best, or try fast and then half speed the loop)
hit overdub and swell in some notes

works really nicely if you are able to mute your dry signal, as little
chunks of audio just appear out of nowhere

sim

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> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:58 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
> wrote:
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> > the Q value for the loop.
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one really nice thing you can do with the lp-1 which you can&#39;t do with mobius, is this...<div><br></div><div>create an empty loop</div><div>hit scramble (medium works best, or try fast and then half speed the loop)</div>
<div>hit overdub and swell in some notes</div><div><br></div><div>works really nicely if you are able to mute your dry signal, as little chunks of audio just appear out of nowhere</div><div><br></div><div>sim<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Per Boysen <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboysen@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="im">On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:58 PM, andy butler &lt;<a href="mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk">akbutler@tiscali.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Hopefully it will be soon possible to have scramble connected to<br>
&gt; the Q value for the loop.</div></blockquote></div><br></div>

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that sounds like it might be a good solution, but bricks with mouse mats on
top gets my vote! :O)

sim

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> thats more like it Simeon though not cheap,i found a place where you
> can buy bricks of rubber and have them cut to your need so i might
> just do that.
> Thanx!
> Luis
>
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ote">On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Louie Angulo <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
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i found a place where you<br>
can buy bricks of rubber and have them cut to your need so i might<br>
just do that.<br>
Thanx!<br>
Luis<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br></div></blockquote></div></div>

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On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Simeon Harris
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> one really nice thing you can do with the lp-1 which you can't do with
> mobius, is this...
> create an empty loop
> hit scramble (medium works best, or try fast and then half speed the loop)
> hit overdub and swell in some notes
> works really nicely if you are able to mute your dry signal, as little
> chunks of audio just appear out of nowhere


Yes, that's neat. Steve Lawson did that a lot at the Norwich
livelooping festival 2008, as Andy might recall. Steve seemed as
surprised as the audience when his previous licks suddenly popped out
of digital chip monk heaven ;-))

Per

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Dammit Andy I'm a doctor not an effects designer!:-)  Honestly I have  
no clue how many parts fast scramble chops a loop up in to, but on  
short loops you can achieve some really cool jittery  sounding  
percolating parts, using this technique.
  Thanks
  Bill

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Here is a little 2 1/2 min vid of me using the shuffle function in =
mobius. It's nice to lay down the pad, get the rhythm from the random =
shuffle and then practice an improv solo over top.
http://vimeo.com/23756934
I'm just recording the room sound from the computer speakers and =
acoustic bass with the Q3. You get the pedal clicks in there but it's so =
much less work then trying to line up the audio from the computer with =
your video afterwards. I'm digging practicing without using headphones =
right now. My m50's can be pretty painful if I wear them all day.
--------------------
Todd Matthews
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lining up the audio and video shouldn't be hard work. in the movies that
they have now (on at the cinema), i believe they use a thing called a
"clapperboard" to do it. a synchronised audio and video event that is
recorded just before the action starts (they edit it out, so you don't see
it in the final film, see). if you simply hit the strings (on camera) before
you start playing, you'll get a sync point which you can edit out later.
nice playing, btw!

sim

On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote:

> Here is a little 2 1/2 min vid of me using the shuffle function in mobius.
> It's nice to lay down the pad, get the rhythm from the random shuffle and
> then practice an improv solo over top.
> http://vimeo.com/23756934
> I'm just recording the room sound from the computer speakers and acoustic
> bass with the Q3. You get the pedal clicks in there but it's so much less
> work then trying to line up the audio from the computer with your video
> afterwards. I'm digging practicing without using headphones right now. My
> m50's can be pretty painful if I wear them all day.
> --------------------
> Todd Matthews
> toddbass.com
> twitter: gtodd876
>
>

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lining up the audio and video shouldn&#39;t be hard work. in the movies tha=
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quote">On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Todd Matthews <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=
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 a little 2 1/2 min vid of me using the shuffle function in mobius. It&#39;=
s nice to lay down the pad, get the rhythm from the random shuffle and then=
 practice an improv solo over top.<br>
<a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/23756934" target=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/23=
756934</a><br>I&#39;m just recording the room sound from the computer speak=
ers and acoustic bass with the Q3. You get the pedal clicks in there but it=
&#39;s so much less work then trying to line up the audio from the computer=
 with your video afterwards. I&#39;m digging practicing without using headp=
hones right now. My m50&#39;s can be pretty painful if I wear them all day.=
<br>
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Thanks for the tip Sim,
A clap of my hands at the beginning would make it much easier. In other =
news I've been back to school for some mandatory classes I have to take =
to keep my job. I've listening to your new album(s) while I've knocking =
out all the busy work for the classes. Your gorgeous ambient soundscapes =
have helped ease the pain of going back to school ! :)
On May 15, 2011, at 1:35 PM, Simeon Harris wrote:

> lining up the audio and video shouldn't be hard work. in the movies =
that they have now (on at the cinema), i believe they use a thing called =
a "clapperboard" to do it. a synchronised audio and video event that is =
recorded just before the action starts (they edit it out, so you don't =
see it in the final film, see). if you simply hit the strings (on =
camera) before you start playing, you'll get a sync point which you can =
edit out later.
> nice playing, btw!
>=20
> sim
>=20
> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> =
wrote:
> Here is a little 2 1/2 min vid of me using the shuffle function in =
mobius. It's nice to lay down the pad, get the rhythm from the random =
shuffle and then practice an improv solo over top.
> http://vimeo.com/23756934
> I'm just recording the room sound from the computer speakers and =
acoustic bass with the Q3. You get the pedal clicks in there but it's so =
much less work then trying to line up the audio from the computer with =
your video afterwards. I'm digging practicing without using headphones =
right now. My m50's can be pretty painful if I wear them all day.
> --------------------
> Todd Matthews
> toddbass.com
> twitter: gtodd876
>=20
>=20

--------------------
Todd Matthews
toddbass.com
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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
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">Thanks&nbsp;for the tip&nbsp;Sim,<div>A clap of my hands at the =
beginning would make it much easier. In other news I've been back to =
school for some mandatory classes I have to take to keep my job. I've =
listening to your new album(s) while I've knocking out all the busy work =
for the classes. Your gorgeous ambient soundscapes have helped ease the =
pain of going back to school ! :)<br><div><div><div>On May 15, 2011, at =
1:35 PM, Simeon Harris wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite">lining up =
the audio and video shouldn't be hard work. in the movies that they have =
now (on at the cinema), i believe they use a thing called a =
"clapperboard" to do it. a synchronised audio and video event that is =
recorded just before the action starts (they edit it out, so you don't =
see it in the final film, see). if you simply hit the strings (on =
camera) before you start playing, you'll get a sync point which you can =
edit out later.<div>
nice playing, btw!</div><div><br></div><div>sim<br><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Todd Matthews =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:gtmatthews@gmail.com">gtmatthews@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">Here is a little 2 1/2 min vid of me =
using the shuffle function in mobius. It's nice to lay down the pad, get =
the rhythm from the random shuffle and then practice an improv solo over =
top.<br>
<a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/23756934" =
target=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/23756934</a><br>I'm just recording =
the room sound from the computer speakers and acoustic bass with the Q3. =
You get the pedal clicks in there but it's so much less work then trying =
to line up the audio from the computer with your video afterwards. I'm =
digging practicing without using headphones right now. My m50's can be =
pretty painful if I wear them all day.<br>
<div>
<span style=3D"border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, =
0);font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight=
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style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">
<div>--------------------</div><div>Todd Matthews</div><div><div><a =
href=3D"http://toddbass.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">toddbass.com</a></div><div>twitter: =
gtodd876</div></div></div></span></span>
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"><div>--------------------</div><div>Todd Matthews</div><div><div><a =
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Todd enjoying this, also looked at a couple others I had not seen, enjoyed
your Back 'morning' piece.  I started playing some violin to your first one=
,
might be fun to overdub something to one of your pieces, would you be open?

Jim

On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote=
:

> Thanks for the tip Sim,
> A clap of my hands at the beginning would make it much easier. In other
> news I've been back to school for some mandatory classes I have to take t=
o
> keep my job. I've listening to your new album(s) while I've knocking out =
all
> the busy work for the classes. Your gorgeous ambient soundscapes have hel=
ped
> ease the pain of going back to school ! :)
>
> On May 15, 2011, at 1:35 PM, Simeon Harris wrote:
>
> lining up the audio and video shouldn't be hard work. in the movies that
> they have now (on at the cinema), i believe they use a thing called a
> "clapperboard" to do it. a synchronised audio and video event that is
> recorded just before the action starts (they edit it out, so you don't se=
e
> it in the final film, see). if you simply hit the strings (on camera) bef=
ore
> you start playing, you'll get a sync point which you can edit out later.
> nice playing, btw!
>
> sim
>
> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com>wrot=
e:
>
>> Here is a little 2 1/2 min vid of me using the shuffle function in mobiu=
s.
>> It's nice to lay down the pad, get the rhythm from the random shuffle an=
d
>> then practice an improv solo over top.
>> http://vimeo.com/23756934
>> I'm just recording the room sound from the computer speakers and acousti=
c
>> bass with the Q3. You get the pedal clicks in there but it's so much les=
s
>> work then trying to line up the audio from the computer with your video
>> afterwards. I'm digging practicing without using headphones right now. M=
y
>> m50's can be pretty painful if I wear them all day.
>>  --------------------
>> Todd Matthews
>> toddbass.com
>> twitter: gtodd876
>>
>>
>
> --------------------
> Todd Matthews
> toddbass.com
> twitter: gtodd876
>
>


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Todd enjoying this, also looked at a couple others I had not seen, enjoyed =
your Back &#39;morning&#39; piece. =A0I started playing some violin to your=
 first one, might be fun to overdub something to one of your pieces, would =
you be open?<div>
<br></div><div>Jim<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, May 15, 2011 a=
t 1:45 PM, Todd Matthews <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gtmatthews=
@gmail.com">gtmatthews@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex;">
<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">Thanks=A0for the tip=A0Sim,<div>A clap =
of my hands at the beginning would make it much easier. In other news I&#39=
;ve been back to school for some mandatory classes I have to take to keep m=
y job. I&#39;ve listening to your new album(s) while I&#39;ve knocking out =
all the busy work for the classes. Your gorgeous ambient soundscapes have h=
elped ease the pain of going back to school ! :)<div>
<div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br><div><div><div>On May 15, 2011, at 1:35 PM=
, Simeon Harris wrote:</div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">lining up the aud=
io and video shouldn&#39;t be hard work. in the movies that they have now (=
on at the cinema), i believe they use a thing called a &quot;clapperboard&q=
uot; to do it. a synchronised audio and video event that is recorded just b=
efore the action starts (they edit it out, so you don&#39;t see it in the f=
inal film, see). if you simply hit the strings (on camera) before you start=
 playing, you&#39;ll get a sync point which you can edit out later.<div>

nice playing, btw!</div><div><br></div><div>sim<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote">On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Todd Matthews <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:gtmatthews@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gtmatthews@gmail=
.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">Here is =
a little 2 1/2 min vid of me using the shuffle function in mobius. It&#39;s=
 nice to lay down the pad, get the rhythm from the random shuffle and then =
practice an improv solo over top.<br>

<a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/23756934" target=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/23=
756934</a><br>I&#39;m just recording the room sound from the computer speak=
ers and acoustic bass with the Q3. You get the pedal clicks in there but it=
&#39;s so much less work then trying to line up the audio from the computer=
 with your video afterwards. I&#39;m digging practicing without using headp=
hones right now. My m50&#39;s can be pretty painful if I wear them all day.=
<br>

<div>
<span style=3D"border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helv=
etica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spaci=
ng:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform=
:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;font-size:medium"><span style=3D"=
border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-styl=
e:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-=
height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-s=
pacing:0px;font-size:medium"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">

<div>--------------------</div><div>Todd Matthews</div><div><div><a href=3D=
"http://toddbass.com/" target=3D"_blank">toddbass.com</a></div><div>twitter=
: gtodd876</div></div></div></span></span>
</div>

<br></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
</blockquote></div><br><div>
<span style=3D"border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helv=
etica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spaci=
ng:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform=
:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;font-size:medium"><span style=3D"=
border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-styl=
e:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-=
height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-s=
pacing:0px;font-size:medium"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">
<div>--------------------</div><div>Todd Matthews</div><div><div><a href=3D=
"http://toddbass.com" target=3D"_blank">toddbass.com</a></div><div>twitter:=
 gtodd876</div></div></div></span></span>
</div>
<br></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all">=
<br>-- <br><i>From Brooklyn To Glindran</i>, a new World/Free Jazz recordin=
g by Jim Goodin &amp; Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds<br>from the sale of this C=
D will benefit JDRF International.=A0 <a href=3D"http://jimgoodinpeterthorn=
.bandcamp.com" target=3D"_blank">jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com</a>.<br>
<br><a href=3D"http://woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com" target=3D"_blank">woo=
dandwiremusic.wordpress.com</a><br>
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Hey everyone,=0A=0ANew to LD...Just got into looping and wanted to post a l=
ink to some of my =0Aideas...Thanks in advance if you check it out.=0A=0Aht=
tp://www.youtube.com/user/jasonfinnern?feature=3Dmhee=0A=0A=0A=0AMake a gre=
at day,=0A=0AJason=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom=
: Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig=
ht.com=0ASent: Sun, May 15, 2011 10:59:05 AM=0ASubject: Re: Quick vid of ra=
ndom shuffle with Mobius - Double Bass Loopage=0A=0ATodd enjoying this, als=
o looked at a couple others I had not seen, enjoyed your =0ABack 'morning' =
piece. =A0I started playing some violin to your first one, might be =0Afun =
to overdub something to one of your pieces, would you be open? =0A=0A=0AJim=
=0A=0A=0AOn Sun, May 15, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.c=
om> wrote:=0A=0AThanks=A0for the tip=A0Sim, =0A>A clap of my hands at the b=
eginning would make it much easier. In other news =0A>I've been back to sch=
ool for some mandatory classes I have to take to keep my =0A>job. I've list=
ening to your new album(s) while I've knocking out all the busy =0A>work fo=
r the classes. Your gorgeous ambient soundscapes have helped ease the =0A>p=
ain of going back to school ! :) =0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>On May 15, 2011, at 1:35 P=
M, Simeon Harris wrote:=0A>=0A>lining up the audio and video shouldn't be h=
ard work. in the movies that they =0A>have now (on at the cinema), i believ=
e they use a thing called a "clapperboard" =0A>to do it. a synchronised aud=
io and video event that is recorded just before the =0A>action starts (they=
 edit it out, so you don't see it in the final film, see). if =0A>you simpl=
y hit the strings (on camera) before you start playing, you'll get a =0A>sy=
nc point which you can edit out later. =0A>=0A>>nice playing, btw!=0A>>=0A>=
>=0A>>sim=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Todd Matthews <gtm=
atthews@gmail.com> wrote:=0A>>=0A>>Here is a little 2 1/2 min vid of me usi=
ng the shuffle function in mobius. It's =0A>>nice to lay down the pad, get =
the rhythm from the random shuffle and then =0A>>practice an improv solo ov=
er top.=0A>>>http://vimeo.com/23756934=0A>>>I'm just recording the room sou=
nd from the computer speakers and acoustic bass =0A>>>with the Q3. You get =
the pedal clicks in there but it's so much less work then =0A>>>trying to l=
ine up the audio from the computer with your video afterwards. I'm =0A>>>di=
gging practicing without using headphones right now. My m50's can be pretty=
 =0A>>>painful if I wear them all day.=0A>>>=0A>>>--------------------=0A>>=
>Todd Matthews=0A>>>toddbass.com=0A>>>twitter: gtodd876=0A>>>=0A>>=0A>=0A>-=
-------------------=0A>Todd Matthews=0A>toddbass.com=0A>twitter: gtodd876=
=0A>=0A=0A=0A-- =0AFrom Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recordi=
ng by Jim Goodin & Peter =0ATh=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds=0Afrom the sale of this CD=
 will benefit JDRF International.=A0 =0Ajimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.=
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font-size:12pt"><DIV>Hey everyone,</DIV>=0A<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>=0A<DIV>New to =
LD...Just got into looping and wanted to post a link to some of my ideas...=
Thanks in advance if you check it out.</DIV>=0A<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>=0A<DIV><A =
href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/user/jasonfinnern?feature=3Dmhee">http://www=
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=0A<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>=0A<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>=0A<DIV>Make a great day,</DIV>=0A<=
DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>=0A<DIV>=0A<DIV>Jason<BR></DIV></DIV>=0A<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>=
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=0A<B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Jim Goodin &lt;jim=
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 Mobius - Double Bass Loopage<BR></FONT><BR>Todd enjoying this, also looked=
 at a couple others I had not seen, enjoyed your Back 'morning' piece. &nbs=
p;I started playing some violin to your first one, might be fun to overdub =
something to one of your pieces, would you be open? =0A<DIV><BR></DIV>=0A<D=
IV>Jim<BR><BR>=0A<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 1:45 PM, =
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T: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3Dgm=
ail_quote>=0A<DIV style=3D"WORD-WRAP: break-word">Thanks&nbsp;for the tip&n=
bsp;Sim, =0A<DIV>A clap of my hands at the beginning would make it much eas=
ier. In other news I've been back to school for some mandatory classes I ha=
ve to take to keep my job. I've listening to your new album(s) while I've k=
nocking out all the busy work for the classes. Your gorgeous ambient sounds=
capes have helped ease the pain of going back to school ! :) =0A<DIV>=0A<DI=
V></DIV>=0A<DIV class=3Dh5><BR>=0A<DIV>=0A<DIV>=0A<DIV>On May 15, 2011, at =
1:35 PM, Simeon Harris wrote:</DIV><BR>=0A<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">lining =
up the audio and video shouldn't be hard work. in the movies that they have=
 now (on at the cinema), i believe they use a thing called a "clapperboard"=
 to do it. a synchronised audio and video event that is recorded just befor=
e the action starts (they edit it out, so you don't see it in the final fil=
m, see). if you simply hit the strings (on camera) before you start playing=
, you'll get a sync point which you can edit out later. =0A<DIV>nice playin=
g, btw!</DIV>=0A<DIV><BR></DIV>=0A<DIV>sim<BR><BR>=0A<DIV class=3Dgmail_quo=
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<BR>=0A<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0p=
x 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3Dgmail_quote>=0A<DIV style=3D"WORD-WRAP:=
 break-word">Here is a little 2 1/2 min vid of me using the shuffle functio=
n in mobius. It's nice to lay down the pad, get the rhythm from the random =
shuffle and then practice an improv solo over top.<BR>http://vimeo.com/2375=
6934<BR>I'm just recording the room sound from the computer speakers and ac=
oustic bass with the Q3. You get the pedal clicks in there but it's so much=
 less work then trying to line up the audio from the computer with your vid=
eo afterwards. I'm digging practicing without using headphones right now. M=
y m50's can be pretty painful if I wear them all day.<BR>=0A<DIV><SPAN styl=
e=3D"TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; FON=
T: medium Helvetica; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; COLOR: rg=
b(0,0,0); WORD-SPACING: 0px"><SPAN style=3D"TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDE=
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rmal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); WORD-SPACING: 0px">=0A<DIV=
 style=3D"WORD-WRAP: break-word">=0A<DIV>--------------------</DIV>=0A<DIV>=
Todd Matthews</DIV>=0A<DIV>=0A<DIV><A href=3D"http://toddbass.com/" rel=3Dn=
ofollow target=3D_blank>toddbass.com</A></DIV>=0A<DIV>twitter: gtodd876</DI=
V></DIV></DIV></SPAN></SPAN></DIV><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></=
BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR>=0A<DIV><SPAN style=3D"TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDE=
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<DIV>--------------------</DIV>=0A<DIV>Todd Matthews</DIV>=0A<DIV>=0A<DIV><=
A href=3D"http://toddbass.com/" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank>toddbass.com=
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R></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR clear=3Dall><BR>=
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Hey everyone,

New to LD...Just got into looping and wanted to post a link to some of my 
ideas...Thanks in advance if you check it out.

http://www.youtube.com/user/jasonfinnern?feature=mhee



Make a great day,

Jason

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<DIV>Hey everyone,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>New to LD...Just got into looping and wanted to post a link to some of my ideas...Thanks in advance if you check it out.</DIV>
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<DIV><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/jasonfinnern?feature=mhee" rel=nofollow target=_blank><SPAN id=lw_1305482647_0 class=yshortcuts><FONT color=#800080>http://www.youtube.com/user/jasonfinnern?feature=mhee</FONT></SPAN></A></DIV>
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ahhh...school...but a distant memory...

thanks for checking them out todd...glad you're enjoying them!

sim

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> Thanks for the tip Sim,
> A clap of my hands at the beginning would make it much easier. In other
> news I've been back to school for some mandatory classes I have to take to
> keep my job. I've listening to your new album(s) while I've knocking out all
> the busy work for the classes. Your gorgeous ambient soundscapes have helped
> ease the pain of going back to school ! :)
>

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ahhh...school...but a distant memory...<div><br></div><div>thanks for check=
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I'd be honored, Jim. Overdub away. Let me know if you'd like the audio =
files separately from the video, and I'll send em your way.
-Todd
On May 15, 2011, at 1:59 PM, Jim Goodin wrote:

> Todd enjoying this, also looked at a couple others I had not seen, =
enjoyed your Back 'morning' piece.  I started playing some violin to =
your first one, might be fun to overdub something to one of your pieces, =
would you be open?
>=20
> Jim
>>=20

--------------------
Todd Matthews
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Simeon Harris wrote:
> lining up the audio and video shouldn't be hard work. in the movies that 
> they have now (on at the cinema), i believe they use a thing called a 
> "clapperboard" to do it. a synchronised audio and video event that is 
> recorded just before the action starts

afaik the clapperboard is no longer needed in Hollywood,
 as SMPTE (absolute time code)takes care of things.



Lacking SMPTE, what I do is
a) Export camera audio as .wav
b) load it into a multitrack editor, along with the high
   res audio.
c) line up wave forms, and save a version of the hi-res file
    that has the exact same start/end as the camera audio.
d) import hi res sound to movie project, ...should now be in sync.

Todd's vid has great sound anyway tho'.

andy

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That seems like a great idea to record a live show so you can mix your =
hi-res feed straight from the computer with the audience noise from the =
camcorder's audio. Thanks Andy, I'm gonna try that at my next show.
That audio is just from the Q3's built in mics but I normalized the =
audio in iMovie to boost the volume before I made an mp4 out of it.
On May 15, 2011, at 2:28 PM, andy butler wrote:
> Lacking SMPTE, what I do is
> a) Export camera audio as .wav
> b) load it into a multitrack editor, along with the high
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> c) line up wave forms, and save a version of the hi-res file
>   that has the exact same start/end as the camera audio.
> d) import hi res sound to movie project, ...should now be in sync.
>=20
> Todd's vid has great sound anyway tho'.
>=20
> andy
>=20

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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:
> one really nice thing you can do with the lp-1 which you can't do with 
> mobius, is this...
>
> create an empty loop
> hit scramble (medium works best, or try fast and then half speed the loop)
> hit overdub and swell in some notes
>
> works really nicely if you are able to mute your dry signal, as little 
> chunks of audio just appear out of nowhere
>
Exactly, and then you can use a Non Synced Bounce to 'select'  a   new 
time signature  out of the randomness
that ensues, then change the Master to this track and continue on in 
synchronized rhythm land in your new
randomly created time signature.

(I can't remember, but is this function called Unrounded Multiply in the 
EDP?   It's been a long time since I've used it there)

What I love about these techniques is that you can start out abstractly 
and suddenly have your randomness coalesce
into a groove in the time signature of your choice.

If you continue on past the boundary of your newly scrambled track then 
you can create interesting compound
odd time signatures that will, nonetheless,  have some of the same 
information at the beginning of each 'section' of the
compound signature you've chosen.

This approach is actually one used a lot in more complex Balkan dance 
rhythms like 25/8.

Additionally,  if you just don't relate to the sequence that emerges,  
just hit scramble a couple more times until something
interesting emerges.

In fact,  note to self and Andy:     It would be musical to add a 
Re-Scramble function to the LP-1 because as it stands now,
I believe you have to hit scramble three times to get a new 
randomization.     Am I right about this?

Currently, as memory serves,  you hit Scramble,   then hit it again to 
toggle back to Unscrambled then hit Scramble a third time
to create a new randomization.

Rick Walker

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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, William Walker wrote:
> Dammit Andy I'm a doctor not an effects designer!:-)  Honestly I have 
> no clue how many parts fast scramble chops a loop up in to, but on 
> short loops you can achieve some really cool jittery  sounding 
> percolating parts, using this technique.
>  Thanks
>  Bill
 From my understanding,  scramble does not chop into fractions of a 
loop, but rather,  each  scramble mode has a fixed
length for each speed............play a longer loop and you'll have more 
fast scrambled 'segments'.

I think it would be wonderful to attach the Scramble function to 
programmable Q length (fractions of a loop).
I think that's what Andy is working on, amongst other things.

I also am lobbying for a Q Constrained Loop Stutter/ReTrigger effect,  a 
technique which is very effectively used on the whole
Akai MPC 1000 - 1,000,000  series (whichever rev they're on now at 
Akai).   I think Andy may be on that as well.

To have a bank of midi commands that could machine gun retrigger in 
1/8,  1/16, 1/32, 1/64 fractions would
be very hip as an improvisational tool, rhythmically.

Has anyone done this in Mobius yet, or is it possible to do so?


rick walker

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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Todd Matthews wrote:
> Here is a little 2 1/2 min vid of me using the shuffle function in 
> mobius. It's nice to lay down the pad, get the rhythm from the random 
> shuffle and then practice an improv solo over 
> top.http://vimeo.com/23756934

So simple and so beautiful.     A perfect 2 minutes and 21 seconds of 
elegant composition.   A beautiful way to start my day;  inspired before
I even have my morning cup o' joe.

Thanks,   Todd.


rick walker

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On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote:
> You get the pedal clicks in there but it's so much less work then trying to
> line up the audio from the computer with your video afterwards. I'm digging
> practicing without using headphones right now.


Todd,

I use a dirt simple way of recording (on a Mac), the cheap application
called Audio Hijack Pro. It just snags whatever audio is happening on
your computer (or in your audio interface, or inside some
application... or whatever you set it up to do). When I'm having fun
with Mobius I keep it in the background to render a stereo file at
24bit/44.1KHz. If the music turned out not quite happening you simply
delete the file. If it was good you slap that hi res audio on the
video instead of the cam tap with your loud tap dancin' on it.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub

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Yoga blocks?

http://www.amazon.com/3-High-Quality-Yoga-Block/dp/B001AW3G44

Rich


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> that sounds like it might be a good solution, but bricks with mouse mats on
> top gets my vote! :O)
> 
> sim
> 
> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>> thats more like it Simeon though not cheap,i found a place where you
>> can buy bricks of rubber and have them cut to your need so i might
>> just do that.
>> Thanx!
>> Luis
>> 
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Link to picture: http://www.musetrap.com/eric/martin_dr.jpg

I am selling my Martin DR Acoustic Guitar (Dreadnought Rosewood) with =20
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Rick Walker wrote:
> (I can't remember, but is this function called Unrounded Multiply in the 
> EDP?   It's been a long time since I've used it there)

yes
 
> In fact,  note to self and Andy:     It would be musical to add a 
> Re-Scramble function to the LP-1 because as it stands now,
> I believe you have to hit scramble three times to get a new 
> randomization.     Am I right about this?

I think it's 2 times.
One to undo the existing scramble, 
and the next..........


andy




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On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
> To have a bank of midi commands that could machine gun retrigger in 1/8,
> =C2=A01/16, 1/32, 1/64 fractions would
> be very hip as an improvisational tool, rhythmically.
>
> Has anyone done this in Mobius yet, or is it possible to do so?


Sure, that's what we Mobius Guys do all night long :-)

Sim posted a script for that four months ago and I posted a sounding
demo using his script. In the sound link below the first "machine gun"
fires of at 30 seconds.
http://soundcloud.com/pboy/subcycle-sequence

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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www.perboysen.com
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Brilliant!

Sent from my iPod

On 15 May 2011, at 20:58, Richard Atkinson <thetoyroom@charter.net> wrote:

> Yoga blocks?
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/3-High-Quality-Yoga-Block/dp/B001AW3G44
> 
> Rich

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<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Brilliant!<br><br>Sent from my iPod</div><div><br>On 15 May 2011, at 20:58, Richard Atkinson &lt;<a href="mailto:thetoyroom@charter.net">thetoyroom@charter.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite">Yoga blocks?<br>
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Thanks for the tip Per but I'm forced to use Windows 7 on my macbook pro =
for looping. I hated having to do that but I get random loud audio =
glitches when I use OSX at any buffer setting. After troubleshooting for =
a year I finally got a solid system running windows 7 on the same =
hardware by turning off speedstepping and turbo boost features of my i7 =
dual core cpu and using a standard vga driver instead of the nvidia one. =
I used to use Mainstage in OSX and could just hit the record button to =
record my looping session. I hope to return to OSX eventually:) I'm =
using Ableton in Win7 and setup dummyclips to change my effects patches =
so it's as close to Mainstage functionality as I could get.
-Todd Matthews
On May 15, 2011, at 3:42 PM, Per Boysen wrote:

> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>> You get the pedal clicks in there but it's so much less work then =
trying to
>> line up the audio from the computer with your video afterwards. I'm =
digging
>> practicing without using headphones right now.
>=20
>=20
> Todd,
>=20
> I use a dirt simple way of recording (on a Mac), the cheap application
> called Audio Hijack Pro. It just snags whatever audio is happening on
> your computer (or in your audio interface, or inside some
> application... or whatever you set it up to do). When I'm having fun
> with Mobius I keep it in the background to render a stereo file at
> 24bit/44.1KHz. If the music turned out not quite happening you simply
> delete the file. If it was good you slap that hi res audio on the
> video instead of the cam tap with your loud tap dancin' on it.
>=20
> Greetings from Sweden
>=20
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> www.looproom.com internet music hub
>=20


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Great that you have a working looping system going. I used Win XP
before Mainstage came around and I found it better with Bidule +
Mobius than OSX. Vista was  bad but Win 7 is good for audio I keep
hearing from people. I also think Ableton Live allows you do do a lot
of live processing of your live input signal that isn't possible in
Mainstage. I personally stick with Mainstage because I can make it
sound better than Live (used Live for many years in the past). I just
incorporated StutterEdit into my setup now, inserted after Mobius,
processing the looper output plus delay/reverb/harmonizer effects of
my live instrument input. StutterEdit is the first step sequencer
driven plugin I have seen that actually doesn't cause Mainstage
problems.

With Windows lappies becoming stronger and ridiculously inexpensive
I'm tempted to set up a backup looping system with Bidule and Mobius.
The more gigs I'm getting these days the more annoyed I'm feeling not
having a backup system handy. When I was a touring guitarist I always
had two guitars on stage, anything else was regarded stupid and
ignorant to the venue and the artist project you were hired by. I use
a non system dependent iLook for important plugin licenses and my non
iLook licensees cover both Mac and Windows versions. I wish I could
keep all my licensees on the iLook because then I could just pick up
any laptop to loop within minutes.

Per



On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrot=
e:
> Thanks for the tip Per but I'm forced to use Windows 7 on my macbook pro =
for looping. I hated having to do that but I get random loud audio glitches=
 when I use OSX at any buffer setting. After troubleshooting for a year I f=
inally got a solid system running windows 7 on the same hardware by turning=
 off speedstepping and turbo boost features of my i7 dual core cpu and usin=
g a standard vga driver instead of the nvidia one. I used to use Mainstage =
in OSX and could just hit the record button to record my looping session. I=
 hope to return to OSX eventually:) I'm using Ableton in Win7 and setup dum=
myclips to change my effects patches so it's as close to Mainstage function=
ality as I could get.
> -Todd Matthews
> On May 15, 2011, at 3:42 PM, Per Boysen wrote:
>
>> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wr=
ote:
>>> You get the pedal clicks in there but it's so much less work then tryin=
g to
>>> line up the audio from the computer with your video afterwards. I'm dig=
ging
>>> practicing without using headphones right now.
>>
>>
>> Todd,
>>
>> I use a dirt simple way of recording (on a Mac), the cheap application
>> called Audio Hijack Pro. It just snags whatever audio is happening on
>> your computer (or in your audio interface, or inside some
>> application... or whatever you set it up to do). When I'm having fun
>> with Mobius I keep it in the background to render a stereo file at
>> 24bit/44.1KHz. If the music turned out not quite happening you simply
>> delete the file. If it was good you slap that hi res audio on the
>> video instead of the cam tap with your loud tap dancin' on it.
>>
>> Greetings from Sweden
>>
>> Per Boysen
>> www.boysen.se
>> www.perboysen.com
>> www.looproom.com internet music hub
>>
>
>
>

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Very nice Jason, welcome to the online looper tribe.

On May 15, 2011, at 11:06 AM, jason finnern wrote:

> Hey everyone,
>
> New to LD...Just got into looping and wanted to post a link to some  
> of my ideas...Thanks in advance if you check it out.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/user/jasonfinnern?feature=mhee
>
>
>
> Make a great day,
>
> Jason

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I do miss the sound of the logic plugs versus the live plugs. I did try =
bidule a few times on OSX so I think I might try to get it running on =
the Win7 side tonight. I keep forgetting about that option! I own a =
license so it can't hurt to try. You told me a few years back that if I =
use the audio switcher object that only the selected chain uses the cpu =
right? Right now in Live I've been limiting myself 10 effects chains =
because they all use the cpu whether I've selected the effect chain or =
not.=20
Now that I think of it though I don't have individual EQ and compressor =
plugs to get my looping setup copied over into Bidule. Thats the nice =
thing about Live and Mainstage is all the included plugs. I'll do some =
research and see if there are some decent ones that aren't too =
expensive.=20
-Todd Matthews
On May 15, 2011, at 5:13 PM, Per Boysen wrote:

> Great that you have a working looping system going. I used Win XP
> before Mainstage came around and I found it better with Bidule +
> Mobius than OSX. Vista was  bad but Win 7 is good for audio I keep
> hearing from people. I also think Ableton Live allows you do do a lot
> of live processing of your live input signal that isn't possible in
> Mainstage. I personally stick with Mainstage because I can make it
> sound better than Live (used Live for many years in the past). I just
> incorporated StutterEdit into my setup now, inserted after Mobius,
> processing the looper output plus delay/reverb/harmonizer effects of
> my live instrument input. StutterEdit is the first step sequencer
> driven plugin I have seen that actually doesn't cause Mainstage
> problems.
>=20
> With Windows lappies becoming stronger and ridiculously inexpensive
> I'm tempted to set up a backup looping system with Bidule and Mobius.
> The more gigs I'm getting these days the more annoyed I'm feeling not
> having a backup system handy. When I was a touring guitarist I always
> had two guitars on stage, anything else was regarded stupid and
> ignorant to the venue and the artist project you were hired by. I use
> a non system dependent iLook for important plugin licenses and my non
> iLook licensees cover both Mac and Windows versions. I wish I could
> keep all my licensees on the iLook because then I could just pick up
> any laptop to loop within minutes.
>=20
> Per
>=20

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Subject: Re: Quick vid of random shuffle with Mobius - Double Bass Loopage
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I forgot to add earlier another nice option I learned on the Windows 7 =
side of Ableton is that you can set Ableton to 'Real-time priority' with =
the CPU. Open up the Task Manager, Right-click Live.exe and select =
real-time.
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Subject: Re: Quick vid of random shuffle with Mobius - Double Bass Loopage
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I concur with Rick, a perfectly beautiful piece. Thanks Todd!

On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Todd Matthews wrote:
>>
>> Here is a little 2 1/2 min vid of me using the shuffle function in mobiu=
s.
>> It's nice to lay down the pad, get the rhythm from the random shuffle an=
d
>> then practice an improv solo over top.http://vimeo.com/23756934
>
> So simple and so beautiful. =A0 =A0 A perfect 2 minutes and 21 seconds of
> elegant composition. =A0 A beautiful way to start my day; =A0inspired bef=
ore
> I even have my morning cup o' joe.
>
> Thanks, =A0 Todd.
>
>
> rick walker
>
>



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Sim Sez:
create an empty loop
hit scramble (medium works best, or try fast and then half speed the  
loop)
hit overdub and swell in some notes

  kind of like this  fast scramble example with variable feedback. Way  
fun.
  Bill
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<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Sim Sez:</div><div><div>create an empty loop</div><div>hit scramble (medium works best, or try fast and then half speed the loop)</div><div>hit overdub and swell in some notes</div></div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp;kind of like this &nbsp;fast scramble example with variable feedback. Way fun.</div><div>&nbsp;Bill</div><div><a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/BillWalkerGuitar?feature=mhee">http://www.youtube.com/user/BillWalkerGuitar?feature=mhee</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></body></html>
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That's bloody fantastic !

Been trying to accomplish similar stuff with the EDP but it seems to =
require much more deliberation. Looks like the LP1 makes this nice and =
fluid so you can actually play it...  LP2 will not have this feature as =
best as I can tell...

Phil C :)

On May 15, 2011, at 6:40 PM, William Walker wrote:

> Sim Sez:
> create an empty loop
> hit scramble (medium works best, or try fast and then half speed the =
loop)
> hit overdub and swell in some notes
>=20
>  kind of like this  fast scramble example with variable feedback. Way =
fun.
>  Bill
> http://www.youtube.com/user/BillWalkerGuitar?feature=3Dmhee
>=20
>=20


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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; =
">That's bloody fantastic !<div><br></div><div>Been trying to accomplish =
similar stuff with the EDP but it seems to require much more =
deliberation. Looks like the LP1 makes this nice and fluid so you can =
actually play it... &nbsp;LP2 will not have this feature as best as I =
can tell...<div><br></div><div>Phil C :)</div><div><br><div><div>On May =
15, 2011, at 6:40 PM, William Walker wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Sim =
Sez:</div><div><div>create an empty loop</div><div>hit scramble (medium =
works best, or try fast and then half speed the loop)</div><div>hit =
overdub and swell in some =
notes</div></div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp;kind of like this &nbsp;fast =
scramble example with variable feedback. Way =
fun.</div><div>&nbsp;Bill</div><div><a =
href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/user/BillWalkerGuitar?feature=3Dmhee">http:=
//www.youtube.com/user/BillWalkerGuitar?feature=3Dmhee</a></div><div><br><=
/div><div><br></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></body></html=
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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote:
> Sim posted a script for that four months ago and I posted a sounding
> demo using his script. In the sound link below the first "machine gun"
> fires of at 30 seconds.
> http://soundcloud.com/pboy/subcycle-sequence
Very hip,  I guess I missed that post.  Thanks for reposting,  Per.
We'll see if we can catch up to you Mobius users with that technique in 
the LP-1.

rick walker

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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, William Walker wrote:
> Sim Sez:
> create an empty loop
> hit scramble (medium works best, or try fast and then half speed the loop)
> hit overdub and swell in some notes
>
>  kind of like this  fast scramble example with variable feedback. Way fun.
>  Bill
> http://www.youtube.com/user/BillWalkerGuitar?feature=mhee
>
>
Way cool, Bill.     A question for you:    Can you incorporate Q-replace 
into this Scramble approach as well?
In other words use Q-replace instead of Overdub to put new content into 
the loop?

I'm sick in bed and can't set the LP-1 up to try it, but the idea is 
exciting to me.

next door to you............lol,

rick

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The semi-similar effect on the EDP is the sequencer style material one =
can generate with quantized replace (see midway through =
http://grubmah.com/music/y2k6.mp3) but it's a fairly different effect =
from scramble on the LP-1. I think I remarked a while ago that scramble =
may be the defining sound for the LP-1 in terms of being the sound that =
nothing else does.

Mark

On May 15, 2011, at 6:51 PM, Phil Clevenger wrote:

> That's bloody fantastic !
>=20
> Been trying to accomplish similar stuff with the EDP but it seems to =
require much more deliberation. Looks like the LP1 makes this nice and =
fluid so you can actually play it...  LP2 will not have this feature as =
best as I can tell...
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> Phil C :)
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> On May 15, 2011, at 6:40 PM, William Walker wrote:
>=20
>> Sim Sez:
>> create an empty loop
>> hit scramble (medium works best, or try fast and then half speed the =
loop)
>> hit overdub and swell in some notes
>>=20
>>  kind of like this  fast scramble example with variable feedback. Way =
fun.
>>  Bill
>> http://www.youtube.com/user/BillWalkerGuitar?feature=3Dmhee
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"><div>The semi-similar effect on the EDP is the sequencer style =
material one can generate with quantized replace (see midway =
through&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"http://grubmah.com/music/y2k6.mp3">http://grubmah.com/music/y2k6.m=
p3</a>) but it's a fairly different effect from scramble on the LP-1. I =
think I remarked a while ago that scramble may be the defining sound for =
the LP-1 in terms of being the sound that nothing else =
does.</div><div><br></div><div>Mark</div><br><div><div>On May 15, 2011, =
at 6:51 PM, Phil Clevenger wrote:</div><br =
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style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
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!<div><br></div><div>Been trying to accomplish similar stuff with the =
EDP but it seems to require much more deliberation. Looks like the LP1 =
makes this nice and fluid so you can actually play it... &nbsp;LP2 will =
not have this feature as best as I can tell...<div><br></div><div>Phil C =
:)</div><div><br><div><div>On May 15, 2011, at 6:40 PM, William Walker =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: =
space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Sim =
Sez:</div><div><div>create an empty loop</div><div>hit scramble (medium =
works best, or try fast and then half speed the loop)</div><div>hit =
overdub and swell in some =
notes</div></div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp;kind of like this &nbsp;fast =
scramble example with variable feedback. Way =
fun.</div><div>&nbsp;Bill</div><div><a =
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On 16 May 2011, at 03:51, Phil Clevenger <phil.clevenger@gmail.com> wrote:

> Been trying to accomplish similar stuff with the EDP but it seems to require much more deliberation.


Wel, no... Edp doesnt scramble, but audibly, one could say the effect
sounds like a standard quantise subtitute. Of course then you have to
build the chunks yourself, but i had one bar of drum machine pattern
sending edp commands that sounded just like that. Im nit using that
technique anymore, prefering now to post process with a kaos pad.
After all that is the devuce that originated all this stuttering and
chopping in the ears of the people.

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Hi guys

Just wanted to play this, its my band project - lots of ambient DL4 =
loops:

=
http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/album/if-it-carries-on-like-this-w=
e-are-moving-to-morecambe

this track is all DL4 loops:

http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/track/hotel-no-6

What i really wanted to try was them in context of a very loud =
improvising rock band.=20

Let me know what u think.... (its all pay what you want). I also did =
some standard looping, just for a few bars here and there, otherwise its =
hard to keep it in time :)


Thanks



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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi =
guys<div><br></div><div>Just wanted to play this, its my band project - =
lots of ambient DL4 loops:</div><div><br></div><div><a =
href=3D"http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/album/if-it-carries-on-lik=
e-this-we-are-moving-to-morecambe">http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com=
/album/if-it-carries-on-like-this-we-are-moving-to-morecambe</a></div><div=
><br></div><div><a =
href=3D"http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/album/if-it-carries-on-lik=
e-this-we-are-moving-to-morecambe"></a>this track is all DL4 =
loops:</div><div><br></div><div><a =
href=3D"http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/track/hotel-no-6">http://t=
hefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/track/hotel-no-6</a></div><div><br></div><=
div><a =
href=3D"http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/track/hotel-no-6"></a>What=
 i really wanted to try was them in context of a very loud improvising =
rock band.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Let me know what u think.... =
(its all pay what you want). I also did some standard looping, just for =
a few bars here and there, otherwise its hard to keep it in time =
:)</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks</div><div><br></div><div=
><br></div><div><br><div>
<div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
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-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><a =
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a><br>http://www.mattstevensguitar.com<br>http://www.spencerparkmusic.com<=
br>mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com</div>
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I wonder what the price will be? I'm thinking $129-$169 USD (?).
=A0
I will look into getting one. I've bought the Korg iElectribe app and the '=
intro' version of the CMI Fairlight app ($40 USD more for the 'Pro' version=
). I would like a better way of getting audio out (or into)=A0 the iPad tha=
n the 1/8 inch connector.=20
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Regards, Paul

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From: Toby G <carpet8@mac.com>
Subject: Alesis iO Dock
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
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Have you folks heard about this:

http://youtu.be/kxSHQNGmTQ8

Alesis iO Dock for iPad?


toby


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nking $129-$169 USD (?).</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I will look into getting one. I've bought the Korg iElectribe app and =
the 'intro' version of the CMI Fairlight app ($40 USD more for the 'Pro' ve=
rsion). I would like a better way of getting audio out (or into)&nbsp; the =
iPad than the 1/8 inch connector. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Regards, Paul<BR><BR>--- On <B>Sun, 5/15/11, Toby G <I>&lt;carpet8@mac=
.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5=
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Alesis iO Dock<BR>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<BR>Date: Sunday, =
May 15, 2011, 12:18 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=3DplainMail>Have you folks heard about this:<BR><BR><A href=3D"h=
ttp://youtu.be/kxSHQNGmTQ8" target=3D_blank>http://youtu.be/kxSHQNGmTQ8</A>=
<BR><BR>Alesis iO Dock for iPad?<BR><BR><BR>toby<BR><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>=
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> yeah man groovey i like it!
> explain what u are using for drum loops,Ableton?

Drum grooves were programmed in Ableton live.    Ableton is driving repeater and mobius in both of these pieces (I think-- its been a while.)

Cheers
Daniel  
On May 14, 2011, at 3:58 AM, Louie Angulo wrote:

> yeah man groovey i like it!
> explain what u are using for drum loops,Ableton?
> 
> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com> wrote:
>> Beautiful track, Bill!   This has been a regular in my iTunes playlist for
>> long now.
>> I love this sound--- its the reason Repeater is still in my rack today.
>> I found this trick really with drum-voiced arpeggios modulating the pitch of
>> the recorded loop.  When first experimenting with the technique-- I
>>  recorded single note drones and then manipulated this loop with rhythmic
>> pitch data from an arpeggiator.  Then I found that if I created midi
>> arpeggios (mapped to drum voices) and allowed only perfect 5ths and 4ths in
>> the arpeggio pattern I could manipulate pitch of more complex (non - droning
>> loops) in a groove with the drum part.   This allows me to safely apply
>> harmonic elements to rather active loops (non Droning) to produce unexpected
>> composite melodies and rhythms.
>> A couple of examples linked below.  In these pieces, the same midi arpeggio
>> that is triggering the drum grooves are driving the pitch manipulations of
>> the loops.
>> Pocket Steel
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAJH4McLvWI
>> Crossing the Rubicon
>> http://www.youtube.com/user/ChordCluster?feature=mhee#p/c/23F3B3F701A8066A/3/7LGGUgbpjYY
>> 
>> Loop On Bretheren
>> Daniel
>> On May 13, 2011, at 2:30 AM, Rick Walker wrote:
>> 
>> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote:
>> 
>> http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/guest/BillWalker-MusicBox.mp3
>> 
>> 
>> This is a brief track called Music Box, chosen by Bill as
>> 
>> being illustrative.
>> 
>> It comes from a (much played) CD which Bill brought along to
>> 
>> trade at the 2005 Zurich loopfest.
>> 
>> At the risk of creating unrequited audio lust I can reveal
>> 
>> that it's a great sounding cd of guitar looping
>> 
>> God, this is a beautiful track Bill!
>> 
>> I know you aren't currently using this technique but it's so beautiful and
>> idiosyncratic that
>> I hope you might consider putting out at least an EP of this type of
>> material from your vaults.
>> I too listened to the promo CD you brought to Zurich and think it's a
>> releasable
>> product.    Beautiful stuff!
>> 
>> rick walker
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
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Not sure if this has shown up yet.  It's for Ableton.

http://www.k-devices.com/moovmi/


Looks pretty cool.

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<div>Not sure if this has shown up yet.=A0 It&#39;s for Ableton.</div><div>=
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> i've recently had four shows disturbed by audio glitches, and I can't =
seem to fix it whatsoever. =20
This may be no help at all but--
I effected a great performance improvement on both my MacBook Pro and my =
dell laptop by ensuring that I disabled all internet connectivity prior =
to looping.   =20

On a related note, I have found that some FW drivers create latency log =
jams when running certain audio cards on the FW buss.    For instance, =
the Texas Instruments FW driver that automatically loads in Windows =
creates conflicts with FocusRite and MOTU firewire sound cards-- =
removing it and installing the windows generic driver greatly improved =
performance of abletone and mobius under windows.  Similar conflicts may =
exist under the hood in Mac OS X.  =20

For windows, there are  latency checking tools that can help you find =
conflicts.=20

http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml

I do not know of a similar tool for Mac OS X, unfortunately-- if some =
one knows of one, please advise. =20

Still,  some of what I learned from this tool under windows  resulted in =
performance improvements when I applied similar tricks to my mac.  In =
particular, wireless internet connectivity seemed to be a source of =
streaming conflicts on the Mac Book.  On a related note, when I went =
from 4 GB of ram to 8 GB on the Mac book, all performance problems went =
away regardless of machine configuration.
  =20
=20
Cheers
Daniel =20
  =20



On May 6, 2011, at 4:36 AM, Toby G wrote:

> Hit up the Genius Bar at the Apple store.  You paid good money for =
that thing, pester them until they help you.  It's their job.
> =20
> toby
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: todd reynolds
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 4:30 AM
> Subject: Re: A looping fork in the road. Which way do I go?
>=20
> Mr. Matthews,=20
>=20
> I can't speak for Zoe, but I have to tell you, i've recently had four =
shows disturbed by audio glitches, and I can't seem to fix it =
whatsoever.  I wish I knew how to go into the console and find the =
errors so I could yell at Apple more effectively.  This i the first =
computer, and it's new, that I've EVER had this problem and it is =
seriously messing with my scene.  I think we need to talk further about =
this.  I'm about to go a little bit bonky with this serious liability in =
my performance scenarios.  Thanks for bringing this up once again.  I'm =
beginning to think it's indeed in my mac, after having isolated =
everything else. =20
>=20
> Bests,=20
>=20
> T.
>=20
>=20
> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:40 AM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> =
wrote:
> Mobius inside of Ableton. I tried hard to get Abletons looper to work =
for me but I couldn't.....but it could just be me. Ableton has great =
integrated tutorials. I still as of today can't  do looping and effects =
with a Macbook Pro i7, Fireface UC on OSX. I have to boot the machine =
into Win7 that is tweaked out to not have random loud audio glitches. =
I've been troubleshooting the thing for a year awaiting the day I don't =
have to use Bootcamp. (Yes this is at 128 sample buffer) Every time an =
audio glitch happens(sounds like a synthy/bit reduction type sound for a =
few seconds) I can go into Console and see the message where there was a =
buffer underun.=20
>=20
> Although this is just my experience..... as Mr. Reynolds and Zoe both =
use Macbook pros with Ableton and it seems like they tour with it no =
prob. Maybe its the dual i7 cpu in the 2010 MBP? Who knows. I'd love to =
a glitch free system going in OSX. I never use over 20 percent of the =
cpu. Tim Exile has talked in forums about his trouble using a 2010 mbp =
for live use. He was able to fix it by disabling hyperthreading and 1 =
cpu! I tired it but that solution didnt work for me.
>=20
> Maybe the new 4 core i7 MBP's dont have the core audio glitches?=20
>=20
> My vote is if your good with computers is to build a windows box. That =
way if you run into issues you have much more control over the OS and =
don't have to sit around and wait, hoping that Apple will fix your =
issue.
> On May 5, 2011, at 9:19 PM, ^|>^m wrote:
>=20
>> I'm looking to replace my EDP's with a software looper.  I do rhythm =
based looping with arranged canned beats and midi syncing so latency =
must be very low.  I have a macbook 13" 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, but I'd =
be willing to get a macbook pro, or even build a windows box.
>>=20
>> So, my question: should I start learning ableton?  Ableton has a =
looper, but should I use Mobius inside Ableton? I want to be able to =
have an arrangement, but also trigger different clips (improvised =
section), but also record loops with bass, guitar, aux percussion, and =
incorporate those too.
>>=20
>> Thank you looping community,
>> Adam
>=20
> Todd Matthews
> toddbass.com
> twitter: gtodd876
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> =95 Currently in London with Bang on a Can and Eighth Blackbird, =
playing music of Steve Reich
> =95 May 24th at The Guggenheim Museum, May 25th at The Stone, NYC
> =95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available =
wherever music is sold. You can check out the INNOVA Recordings Artist =
Page here:
>=20
> http://innova.mu/artist1.asp?skuID=3D449
>=20
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

> http://toddreynolds.com
> http://twitter.com/digifiddler
> http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic
> http://blog.toddreynolds.com
> http://facebook.com/toddreynolds
> http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds
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break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
after-white-space; "><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; =
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padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: =
0px; position: static; z-index: auto; "><div>i've recently had four =
shows disturbed by audio glitches, and I can't seem to fix it =
whatsoever. =
&nbsp;</div></blockquote></div></span></blockquote></div>This may be no =
help at all but--<div>I effected a great performance improvement on both =
my MacBook Pro and my dell laptop by ensuring that I disabled all =
internet connectivity prior to looping. &nbsp; =
&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>On a related note, I have found that =
some FW drivers create latency log jams when running certain audio cards =
on the FW buss. &nbsp; &nbsp;For instance, the Texas Instruments FW =
driver that automatically loads in Windows creates conflicts with =
FocusRite and MOTU firewire sound cards-- removing it and installing the =
windows generic driver greatly improved performance of abletone and =
mobius under windows. &nbsp;Similar conflicts may exist under the hood =
in Mac OS X. &nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>For windows, there =
are &nbsp;latency checking tools that can help you find =
conflicts.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><div><a =
href=3D"http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml">http://www.thesyco=
n.de/deu/latency_check.shtml</a></div></div><div><br></div><div>I do not =
know of a similar tool for Mac OS X, unfortunately-- if some one knows =
of one, please advise. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Still, &nbsp;some =
of what I learned from this tool under windows &nbsp;resulted in =
performance improvements when I applied similar tricks to my mac. =
&nbsp;In particular, wireless internet connectivity seemed to be a =
source of streaming conflicts on the Mac Book. &nbsp;On a related note, =
when I went from 4 GB of ram to 8 GB on the Mac book, all performance =
problems went away regardless of machine =
configuration.</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Che=
ers</div><div>Daniel =
&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><di=
v><br><div><div>On May 6, 2011, at 4:36 AM, Toby G wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; =
font-family: 'Myriad Set'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; =
orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
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-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div =
bgcolor=3D"#ffffff"><div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Hit up the =
Genius Bar at the Apple store.&nbsp; You paid good money for that thing, =
pester them until they help you.&nbsp; It's their =
job.</font></div><div><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div><div><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial">toby</font></div><blockquote dir=3D"ltr" =
style=3D"border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; =
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"><div style=3D"font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; ">----- =
Original Message -----</div><div style=3D"font: normal normal normal =
10pt/normal arial; background-image: initial; background-attachment: =
initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; =
background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); background-position: initial =
initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><b>From:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
title=3D"toddreyn@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:toddreyn@gmail.com">todd =
reynolds</a></div><div style=3D"font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal =
arial; "><b>To:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
title=3D"Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com</a></div><div style=3D"font: normal normal normal =
10pt/normal arial; "><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Friday, May 06, 2011 4:30 =
AM</div><div style=3D"font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; =
"><b>Subject:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: =
A looping fork in the road. Which way do I go?</div><div><br></div>Mr. =
Matthews,&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>I can't speak for Zoe, but I have to =
tell you, i've recently had four shows disturbed by audio glitches, and =
I can't seem to fix it whatsoever. &nbsp;I wish I knew how to go into =
the console and find the errors so I could yell at Apple more =
effectively. &nbsp;This i the first computer, and it's new, that I've =
EVER had this problem and it is seriously messing with my scene. &nbsp;I =
think we need to talk further about this. &nbsp;I'm about to go a little =
bit bonky with this serious liability in my performance scenarios. =
&nbsp;Thanks for bringing this up once again. &nbsp;I'm beginning to =
think it's indeed in my mac, after having isolated everything else. =
&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Bests,&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>T.</=
div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:40 =
AM, Todd Matthews<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><span =
dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:gtmatthews@gmail.com">gtmatthews@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><s=
pan class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>wrote:<br><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); =
border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; padding-left: =
1ex; position: static; z-index: auto; "><div style=3D"word-wrap: =
break-word; ">Mobius inside of Ableton. I tried hard to get Abletons =
looper to work for me but I couldn't.....but it could just be me. =
Ableton has great integrated tutorials. I still as of today can't =
&nbsp;do looping and effects with a Macbook Pro i7, Fireface UC on OSX. =
I have to boot the machine into Win7 that is tweaked out to not have =
random loud audio glitches. I've been troubleshooting the thing for a =
year awaiting the day I don't have to use Bootcamp. (Yes this is at 128 =
sample buffer) Every time an audio glitch happens(sounds like a =
synthy/bit reduction type sound for a few seconds) I can go into Console =
and see the message where there was a buffer =
underun.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Although this is just my =
experience..... as Mr. Reynolds and Zoe both use Macbook pros with =
Ableton and it seems like they tour with it no prob. Maybe its the dual =
i7 cpu in the 2010 MBP? Who knows. I'd love to a glitch free system =
going in OSX. I never use over 20 percent of the cpu. Tim Exile has =
talked in forums about his trouble using a 2010 mbp for live use. He was =
able to fix it by disabling hyperthreading and 1 cpu! I tired it but =
that solution didnt work for me.<div><br></div><div>Maybe the new 4 core =
i7 MBP's dont have the core audio =
glitches?&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>My vote is if your good with =
computers is to build a windows box. That way if you run into issues you =
have much more control over the OS and don't have to sit around and =
wait, hoping that Apple will fix your =
issue.<br><div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><div><div>On May 5, =
2011, at 9:19 PM, ^|&gt;^m wrote:</div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><font=
 size=3D"4">I'm looking to replace my EDP's with a software looper. =
&nbsp;I do&nbsp;rhythm&nbsp;based looping with&nbsp;arranged&nbsp;canned =
beats and midi syncing so latency must be very low. &nbsp;I have a =
macbook 13" 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, but I'd be willing to get a macbook =
pro, or even build a windows box.</font><div><font =
size=3D"4"><br></font></div><div><font size=3D"4"><b>So, my question: =
should I start learning ableton?<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>&nbsp;Ableton has a =
looper, but should I use Mobius inside Ableton? I want to be able to =
have an arrangement, but also trigger different clips (improvised =
section), but also record loops with bass, guitar, aux percussion, and =
incorporate those too.</font></div><div><font =
size=3D"4"><br></font></div><div><font size=3D"4">Thank you looping =
community,</font></div><div><font =
size=3D"4">Adam</font></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div><font =
color=3D"#888888"><div><span style=3D"text-transform: none; text-indent: =
0px; border-collapse: separate; font: normal normal normal medium/normal =
Helvetica; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; color: rgb(0, 0, =
0); word-spacing: 0px; "><div>Todd Matthews</div><div><div><a =
href=3D"http://toddbass.com" =
target=3D"_blank">toddbass.com</a></div><div>twitter: =
gtodd876</div></div></span></div><br></font></div></div></div></div></bloc=
kquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>--<span =
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=3D=3D<br>=95 Currently in London with Bang on a Can and Eighth =
Blackbird, playing music of Steve Reich<div>=95 May 24th at The =
Guggenheim Museum, May 25th at The Stone, =
NYC<br><div>=95&nbsp;Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now =
available wherever music is sold. You can check out the INNOVA =
Recordings Artist Page here:<div><div><br></div><div><a =
href=3D"http://innova.mu/artist1.asp?skuID=3D449" =
target=3D"_blank">http://innova.mu/artist1.asp?skuID=3D449</a><br><div><di=
v><br>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D<br><a href=3D"http://toddreynolds.com" =
target=3D"_blank">http://toddreynolds.com</a><br><a =
href=3D"http://twitter.com/digifiddler" =
target=3D"_blank">http://twitter.com/digifiddler</a><br><a =
href=3D"http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic" =
target=3D"_blank">http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic</a><br><a =
href=3D"http://blog.toddreynolds.com" =
target=3D"_blank">http://blog.toddreynolds.com</a><br><a =
href=3D"http://facebook.com/toddreynolds" =
target=3D"_blank">http://facebook.com/toddreynolds</a><br><a =
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> i've recently had four shows disturbed by audio glitches, and I can't seem
> to fix it whatsoever.


Try to "rehearse your show". I mean, just play for as long time as the
show is planned and make sure your rig doesn't mess up.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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Hey cool, I did a show in 2008 with a bunch of naked women painted white
(with video textures projected onto them).  My current site showing such is
down for the moment, but I have an old backup still online you can see some
pictures of it from:

http://thecommonwoods.com/nowhere/canvas.php

How did the show go?  I can tell you I did fine by focusing solely on the
music and crowd, hope it worked out for you!

<http://thecommonwoods.com/nowhere/canvas.php>-nn
Sad Music for Happy Humans
http://soundcloud.com/happyhumans

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 6:13 AM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> I have a show tonight with nude models present providing visual as well as
> audio obstacles to the looping. I wonder what will derail me first. An audio
> glitch or boob. I guess I'll be fine if I just keep staring at my shoes
> while I play.
>
>

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 down for the moment, but I have an old backup still online you can see som=
e pictures of it from:<div>
<br></div><div><a href=3D"http://thecommonwoods.com/nowhere/canvas.php">htt=
p://thecommonwoods.com/nowhere/canvas.php</a></div><div><br></div><div>How =
did the show go? =A0I can tell you I did fine by focusing solely on the mus=
ic and crowd, hope it worked out for you!</div>
<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://thecommonwoods.com/nowhere/canvas.php=
"></a>-nn</div><div>Sad Music for Happy Humans</div><div><a href=3D"http://=
soundcloud.com/happyhumans">http://soundcloud.com/happyhumans</a><br><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote">
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 6:13 AM, Todd Matthews <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:gtmatthews@gmail.com">gtmatthews@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:=
<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-lef=
t:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<br>
I have a show tonight with nude models present providing visual as well as =
audio obstacles to the looping. I wonder what will derail me first. An audi=
o glitch or boob. I guess I&#39;ll be fine if I just keep staring at my sho=
es while I play.<br>

<div class=3D"im"><br></div></blockquote></div>
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Thanks everyone for the input! =A0

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$199

t

On May 16, 2011, at 6:50 AM, Paul Richards wrote:

> I wonder what the price will be? I'm thinking $129-$169 USD (?).
>
> I will look into getting one. I've bought the Korg iElectribe app  
> and the 'intro' version of the CMI Fairlight app ($40 USD more for  
> the 'Pro' version). I would like a better way of getting audio out  
> (or into)  the iPad than the 1/8 inch connector.
>
> Regards, Paul
>
> --- On Sun, 5/15/11, Toby G <carpet8@mac.com> wrote:
>
> From: Toby G <carpet8@mac.com>
> Subject: Alesis iO Dock
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Sunday, May 15, 2011, 12:18 AM
>
> Have you folks heard about this:
>
> http://youtu.be/kxSHQNGmTQ8
>
> Alesis iO Dock for iPad?
>
>
> toby
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$199<br><div><div><br></div><div>t</div><div><br></div><div>On May 16, =
2011, at 6:50 AM, Paul Richards wrote:</div><br =
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valign=3D"top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><div>I wonder what the price =
will be? I'm thinking $129-$169 USD (?).</div> <div>&nbsp;</div> <div>I =
will look into getting one. I've bought the Korg iElectribe app and the =
'intro' version of the CMI Fairlight app ($40 USD more for the 'Pro' =
version). I would like a better way of getting audio out (or into)&nbsp; =
the iPad than the 1/8 inch connector. </div> <div>&nbsp;</div> =
<div>Regards, Paul<br><br>--- On <b>Sun, 5/15/11, Toby G <i>&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:carpet8@mac.com">carpet8@mac.com</a>&gt;</i></b> =
wrote:<br></div> <blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px =
solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><br>From: Toby G &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:carpet8@mac.com">carpet8@mac.com</a>&gt;<br>Subject: =
Alesis iO Dock<br>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@looper=
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target=3D"_blank">http://youtu.be/kxSHQNGmTQ8</a><br><br>Alesis iO Dock =
for =
iPad?<br><br><br>toby<br><br></div></blockquote></td></tr></tbody></table>=
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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark francombe wrote:
> Wel, no... Edp doesnt scramble, but audibly, one could say the effect
> sounds like a standard quantise subtitute. Of course then you have to
> build the chunks yourself,
Though the two have that square wave slicing sound,  what I like about 
Scramble is
that you can constantly randomize your loops.

It suddenly occurred to me that if you just set up these two commands in 
a row, that
you can constantly keep randomizing what your little sub pulse goodies 
will sound like.

First,  take a scramble your track:   The use simple command:

1 =  Fast Scamble (this takes your original scrambled track out of 
scramble)
2 =  Fast Scramble (rescrambles with a new randomization)............

By then using Bounce you can then listen to what is spit out and 
constrain it to what ever time signature
you'd like by truncating the bounce when you achieve the sub pulse you 
want and the original track
turns itself off.

If your timing is really accurate (and there is no better way to improve 
timing than to practice constraining a
fast or medium scramble to a new time signature)  then by applying the 
exact Q-quantization for using
Q-replace you can then 'customize' your new ostinato rhythm.

A cool thing to do it is to cut silence slices into your loop so you can 
get more of an 'African' paradigm to
your ostinato loop.

I was over at Bill's last night and he was doing wicked stuff by 
constantly introducing new material (constrained with
digital delays,  feedback reduction,  Q-replace)    It was really 
beautiful where he's taking this stuff.

Also, if you think about it,    if you Fast Scramble your track, then 
you have a whole series of wav forms whose volumes
cut abruptly at the boundary of each Scrambled 'slice'.     If you are 
not constraining Scramble to a time signature, then
every time you do a Q- replace you are introducing new slices that are 
NOT the same size.........and Scrambling them.

This causes a lot of jittery/glitchy goodness in your loop and yet, if 
you constrain what you are playing to fairly fundamental
harmonic choices,  you have a really nice 'bed' that you can play 
langorously over.

This approximates the Indonesian "Kotekan" paradigm of rhythm creation, 
where every single sub pulse is played in such a way
that the soloist just soars over the 'percolating' texture of the 
manipulated loop.

Q-replace some silences and you can come up with some cool 
"Afro-centric" syncopations

ps   by the way,  we've got some cool new features planned for adding to 
the LP-1 that should give it some other
unique qualities (as Mark Hamburg mentioned that he thought Scramble was 
a defining technique that separates the
LP-1 from other units).

rick walker

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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Tony K wrote:
> Not sure if this has shown up yet.  It's for Ableton.
> http://www.k-devices.com/moovmi/
>
yeah, that looks good.    just gazing at it,  it looks like you can 
constrain what pitches are played.

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Yeah I've been looking at that.

I work with some programmers for visuals who have been doing a lot of
interactive visuals (everything Kinetic to imagery, to stylus pads, dmx,
etc), and are currently working on a program that works with taking some of
my midi output and providing corresponding visuals that are reactionary to
various midi values I've chosen.

I'm thinking it would be fun to take this, point it at the blank screen in
the room, start getting a little bit of midi from visual created just from
ambient lighting/shadow shifts in the room, maybe low enough to capture the
heads of folks.  Send the MIDIfromVisual signal to the program we're
developing, which converts the MIDIfromVisual notes into a different kind of
imagery projected onto the screen, which is picked up by the camera and
converted to further MIDIfromVisual notes, which is... etc... loop ad
infinitum.

I'm thinking either you could have fun seeing what happened til a feedback
loop crashed everything with too much thickness, or, with the proper
tweaking (time limit on any imagery created, ie fading lines, etc, that this
software has could probably keep that from happening), seems you'd have
basically self a self generating audio/visual machine.

Might be fun to take the audio feed from that into an actual setup and
slice/mangle it into a nice texture that's connected, but less directly,
with the imagery, no?  Seems it would then be less obvious in it's
connection of visual to overall sound, but still pulse with the proper kind
of rhythm, if that makes any sense...

-nn
http://soundcloud.com/happyhumans

On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Tony K wrote:
>
>> Not sure if this has shown up yet.  It's for Ableton.
>> http://www.k-devices.com/moovmi/
>>
>>  yeah, that looks good.    just gazing at it,  it looks like you can
> constrain what pitches are played.
>
> rick walker
>
>


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Yeah I&#39;ve been looking at that.<br><br>I work with some programmers for=
 visuals who have been doing a lot of interactive visuals (everything Kinet=
ic to imagery, to stylus pads, dmx, etc), and are currently working on a pr=
ogram that works with taking some of my midi output and providing correspon=
ding visuals that are reactionary to various midi values I&#39;ve chosen.<b=
r>
<br>I&#39;m thinking it would be fun to take this, point it at the blank sc=
reen in the room, start getting a little bit of midi from visual created ju=
st from ambient lighting/shadow shifts in the room, maybe low enough to cap=
ture the heads of folks. =A0Send the MIDIfromVisual signal to the program w=
e&#39;re developing, which converts the MIDIfromVisual notes into a differe=
nt kind of imagery projected onto the screen, which is picked up by the cam=
era and converted to further MIDIfromVisual notes, which is... etc... loop =
ad infinitum. =A0<br>
<br>I&#39;m thinking either you could have fun seeing what happened til a f=
eedback loop crashed everything with too much thickness, or, with the prope=
r tweaking (time limit on any imagery created, ie fading lines, etc, that t=
his software has could probably keep that from happening), seems you&#39;d =
have basically self a self generating audio/visual machine.<br>
<br>Might be fun to take the audio feed from that into an actual setup and =
slice/mangle it into a nice texture that&#39;s connected, but less directly=
, with the imagery, no? =A0Seems it would then be less obvious in it&#39;s =
connection of visual to overall sound, but still pulse with the proper kind=
 of rhythm, if that makes any sense...<div>
<br></div><div>-nn</div><div><a href=3D"http://soundcloud.com/happyhumans">=
http://soundcloud.com/happyhumans</a><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On =
Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Rick Walker <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:looppool@cruzio.com">looppool@cruzio.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class=3D"im">On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Tony=
 K wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Not sure if this has shown up yet. =A0It&#39;s for Ableton.<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.k-devices.com/moovmi/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.k=
-devices.com/moovmi/</a><br>
<br>
</blockquote></div>
yeah, that looks good. =A0 =A0just gazing at it, =A0it looks like you can c=
onstrain what pitches are played.<br><font color=3D"#888888">
<br>
rick walker<br>
<br>
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On 5/16/11 11:25 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:
> kind words, rick. means a lot, thank you
Always, my friend!    Listening to your Beyond the Frozen Sea as I type.
A nice way to spend the rainy day, sick in bed.......thanks!

rick
>
> sim
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com 
> <mailto:looppool@cruzio.com>> wrote:
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>     On 5/16/11 12:54 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:
>>     Hi rick, it's on bandcamp buddy.Www.simeonharris.bandcamp.com  <http://Www.simeonharris.bandcamp.com>
>>     Thanks for the invite to the festival, but I'm completely broke. We can't even afford to go camping this year for our family holiday. Maybe next year when I'm rich and famous! ;0)
>>     Get well soon!
>     *Thanks, and man,  I hear you,   I just had to cancel performing
>     at the Boise Creative and Improvised Music Festival which is one
>     of the best festivals
>     I've ever performed at because I just couldn't afford the travel
>     time and the time off from the meager amount of work I have.
>     This year has really been tough,   the worst of my 35 years as a
>     professional musician.
>
>     But please know that you should be there some year and that you
>     should be a featured artist.
>     I think of you as an indispensable part of this very creative
>     global community.
>
>     Cheers,   Have fun making tents and forts in your living room and
>     backyard with your family so you guys can go camping this year!!!!!!
>     It could be magical:  absolutely one of the best vacations you've
>     ever taken together.   Things like that really stick with kids
>     their whole lives.
>     Just because we are poor doesn't mean that we can't be creative
>     and sharing and loving with each other, right?
>
>     yours,    Rick*
>

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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Nevyn Nowhere wrote:
> Hey cool, I did a show in 2008 with a bunch of naked women painted 
> white (with video textures projected onto them).  My current site 
> showing such is down for the moment, but I have an old backup still 
> online you can see some pictures of it from:
>
> http://thecommonwoods.com/nowhere/canvas.php
Really cool visual concept.  It think it's great that the visual artist 
was very minimal about what he/she projected onto the
white women.     The effect was very hip.......sounds like a cool concept.
Where does one get this kind of gig?    lol.

rick walker

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One makes it happen.

Basically I made a request to work with a videographer to some circles... a
man by the name of Vortex said "let's project some video on some nude women"
(later on, I found he was kind of joking, as he didn't think it could
happen) and I said "okay, let me get back to you with some volunteers".

I shot out some emails to folks who like my music, to friends, posted in a
few Burning Man friendly/nudity positive circles, even Craigslist, for
volunteers for my vision.  Secured a location (a beautiful old ballroom with
high ceilings, and a lovely evening type setup for the show replete with
couches galore... all moved for dancing afterwards of course!), and then
spent a couple months trying to keep it all organized, write the set, have 3
rehearsals with 3 different groups, etc...  Worked with a local printing
company to get 5000 flyers on the cheap, and everything else was internet
promo/word of mouth.  At the last moment we got local circus Ringmaster
William Batty/Noah Mickens to MC the event, which really helped tie it all
together.

Day of show came and I had a few voluteer airbrushers to paint the ladies,
along with a few last minute ladies voluteering (thank goodness I had
finagled a stage manager by that time), a few cameramen to document, and a
very late Vortex/videographer.  He eventually showed though, and I'm glad
for his simple pattern type of approach as well... doubt it would have
happened as well with a modern digital videographer, but he was using old
school gear.  Ennywhoo, we pulled it off on time and it went pretty well.
We even did a DVD and had a release party at a local theatre.

If you go to

http://www.media-blitz.net/

and click on the "products" tab, you can buy the DVD made from the event for
10 USD... I think it's even on amazon and some of the other film selling
sites.

But yeah, basically it took me thinking nothing is impossible and working my
ass off to prove it. ;)

-nn
http://www.soundcloud.com/happyhumans

On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Nevyn Nowhere wrote:
>
>> Hey cool, I did a show in 2008 with a bunch of naked women painted white
>> (with video textures projected onto them).  My current site showing such is
>> down for the moment, but I have an old backup still online you can see some
>> pictures of it from:
>>
>> http://thecommonwoods.com/nowhere/canvas.php
>>
> Really cool visual concept.  It think it's great that the visual artist was
> very minimal about what he/she projected onto the
> white women.     The effect was very hip.......sounds like a cool concept.
> Where does one get this kind of gig?    lol.
>
> rick walker
>



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One makes it happen.<br><br>Basically I made a request to work with a video=
grapher to some circles... a man by the name of Vortex said &quot;let&#39;s=
 project some video on some nude women&quot; (later on, I found he was kind=
 of joking, as he didn&#39;t think it could happen) and I said &quot;okay, =
let me get back to you with some volunteers&quot;.<br>
<br>I shot out some emails to folks who like my music, to friends, posted i=
n a few Burning Man friendly/nudity positive circles, even Craigslist, for =
volunteers for my vision.=A0 Secured a location (a beautiful old ballroom w=
ith high ceilings, and a lovely evening type setup for the show replete wit=
h couches galore... all moved for dancing afterwards of course!), and then =
spent a couple months trying to keep it all organized, write the set, have =
3 rehearsals with 3 different groups, etc...=A0 Worked with a local printin=
g company to get 5000 flyers on the cheap, and everything else was internet=
 promo/word of mouth.=A0 At the last moment we got local circus Ringmaster =
William Batty/Noah Mickens to MC the event, which really helped tie it all =
together.<br>
<br>Day of show came and I had a few voluteer airbrushers to paint the ladi=
es, along with a few last minute ladies voluteering (thank goodness I had f=
inagled a stage manager by that time), a few cameramen to document, and a v=
ery late Vortex/videographer.=A0 He eventually showed though, and I&#39;m g=
lad for his simple pattern type of approach as well... doubt it would have =
happened as well with a modern digital videographer, but he was using old s=
chool gear.=A0 Ennywhoo, we pulled it off on time and it went pretty well.=
=A0 We even did a DVD and had a release party at a local theatre.=A0 <br>
<br>If you go to <br><br><a href=3D"http://www.media-blitz.net/">http://www=
.media-blitz.net/</a><br><br>and click on the &quot;products&quot; tab, you=
 can buy the DVD made from the event for 10 USD... I think it&#39;s even on=
 amazon and some of the other film selling sites.=A0 <br>
<br>But yeah, basically it took me thinking nothing is impossible and worki=
ng my ass off to prove it. ;)<br><br>-nn<br><a href=3D"http://www.soundclou=
d.com/happyhumans">http://www.soundcloud.com/happyhumans</a><br><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote">
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Rick Walker <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:looppool@cruzio.com">looppool@cruzio.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<b=
r><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; bor=
der-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Nevyn Nowhere wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Hey cool, I did a show in 2008 with a bunch of naked women painted white (w=
ith video textures projected onto them). =A0My current site showing such is=
 down for the moment, but I have an old backup still online you can see som=
e pictures of it from:<br>

<br>
<a href=3D"http://thecommonwoods.com/nowhere/canvas.php" target=3D"_blank">=
http://thecommonwoods.com/nowhere/canvas.php</a><br>
</blockquote></div>
Really cool visual concept. =A0It think it&#39;s great that the visual arti=
st was very minimal about what he/she projected onto the<br>
white women. =A0 =A0 The effect was very hip.......sounds like a cool conce=
pt.<br>
Where does one get this kind of gig? =A0 =A0lol.<br><font color=3D"#888888"=
>
<br>
rick walker<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><a href=3D"http:=
//happyhumans.org" target=3D"_blank">happyhumans.org</a><br><br>

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Daniel Thomas said:

For windows, there are  latency checking tools that can help you find  
conflicts.

http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml


   Thanks for the hot tip Daniel, and the other sage advice about  
turning off the the internet.   I inadvertently had the internet  
connectivity hooked up again on my mainframe windows DAW in the garage  
and guess what started to happen? sluggish-ness,  and some  
intermittent audio artifacts that sound like static electric crackle  
that may be coincidental, and of a different origin. altogether. Cue  
blood curdling scream

the love/hate relationship that is the computer:-)
Bill
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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Daniel Thomas =
said:</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">For windows, there are &nbsp;latency checking tools =
that can help you find conflicts.&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; =
"><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a =
href=3D"http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml">http://www.thesyco=
n.de/deu/latency_check.shtml</a></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; =
"><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; =
"><br></div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;Thanks for the hot tip Daniel, and the =
other sage advice about turning off the the internet. &nbsp; I =
inadvertently had the internet connectivity hooked up again on my =
mainframe windows DAW in the garage and guess what started to happen? =
sluggish-ness, &nbsp;and some intermittent audio artifacts that sound =
like static electric crackle that may be coincidental, and of a =
different origin. altogether. Cue blood curdling =
scream</div><div><br></div><div>the love/hate relationship that is the =
computer:-)&nbsp;</div><div>Bill</div></div></body></html>=

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Thanks Jason - i don't really feel like a "proper looper" cause i use =
very basic equipment :)

Matt Stevens
http://www.fierceandthedead.com
http://www.mattstevensguitar.com
http://www.spencerparkmusic.com
mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com

On 16 May 2011, at 17:44, jason finnern wrote:

> Cool stuff
>=20
> From: Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Sent: Mon, May 16, 2011 5:51:29 AM
> Subject: Looping in a band context/new album spam :)
>=20
> Hi guys
>=20
> Just wanted to play this, its my band project - lots of ambient DL4 =
loops:
>=20
> =
http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/album/if-it-carries-on-like-this-w=
e-are-moving-to-morecambe
>=20
> this track is all DL4 loops:
>=20
> http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/track/hotel-no-6
>=20
> What i really wanted to try was them in context of a very loud =
improvising rock band.=20
>=20
> Let me know what u think.... (its all pay what you want). I also did =
some standard looping, just for a few bars here and there, otherwise its =
hard to keep it in time :)
>=20
>=20
> Thanks
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Matt Stevens
> http://www.fierceandthedead.com
> http://www.mattstevensguitar.com
> http://www.spencerparkmusic.com
> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com
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<html><head><base href=3D"x-msg://1414/"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: =
break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
after-white-space; ">Thanks Jason - i don't really feel like a "proper =
looper" cause i use very basic equipment :)<div><br><div>
<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; =
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a><br>http://www.mattstevensguitar.com<br>http://www.spencerparkmusic.com<=
br>mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com</div></span></span>
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<br><div><div>On 16 May 2011, at 17:44, jason finnern wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span =
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bold; ">From:</span></b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Matt Stevens &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com">mattstevensguitar@btinter=
net.com</a>&gt;<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold; =
">To:</span></b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com</a><br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold; =
">Sent:</span></b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Mon, =
May 16, 2011 5:51:29 AM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold; =
">Subject:</span></b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Looping in a band =
context/new album spam :)<br></font><br>Hi guys<div style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; =
"><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Just wanted to play this, its my =
band project - lots of ambient DL4 loops:</div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; =
"><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a =
href=3D"http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/album/if-it-carries-on-lik=
e-this-we-are-moving-to-morecambe">http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com=
/album/if-it-carries-on-like-this-we-are-moving-to-morecambe</a></div><div=
 style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a =
href=3D"http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/album/if-it-carries-on-lik=
e-this-we-are-moving-to-morecambe" rel=3D"nofollow" =
target=3D"_blank"></a>this track is all DL4 loops:</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a =
href=3D"http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/track/hotel-no-6">http://t=
hefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/track/hotel-no-6</a></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a =
href=3D"http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/track/hotel-no-6" =
rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"></a>What i really wanted to try was =
them in context of a very loud improvising rock band.&nbsp;</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Let me know =
what u think.... (its all pay what you want). I also did some standard =
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it in time :)</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br></div><div =
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margin-left: 0px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; =
">Thanks</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
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a><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.mattstevensguitar.com">http://www.mattstevensguitar.com=
</a><br><a =
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a><br><a =
href=3D"mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com">mattstevensguitar@btinter=
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Howdy,

 Have you seen the book by Nicholas collins, "Handmade Electronic Music? It covers quite a bit of ground as far as video on sound/sound on video, etc. It may give some more insight as to what you are doing. It's worth the price alone just for the simple electronic sound circuits made with Cmos computer type chips. It also covers things to do with electret mics, peizos, video sythesizers from toys, game controllers etc. Definately worth checking out. Be sure to get the 2nd edition.
Rig

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Proper, yeah whatever Matt! :) Great album man, I am really enjoying it!

J

On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Matt Stevens <
mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Thanks Jason - i don't really feel like a "proper looper" cause i use very
> basic equipment :)
>
> Matt Stevens
> http://www.fierceandthedead.com
> http://www.mattstevensguitar.com
> http://www.spencerparkmusic.com
> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com
>
> On 16 May 2011, at 17:44, jason finnern wrote:
>
> Cool stuff
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>
> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> *Sent:* Mon, May 16, 2011 5:51:29 AM
> *Subject:* Looping in a band context/new album spam :)
>
> Hi guys
>
> Just wanted to play this, its my band project - lots of ambient DL4 loops:
>
>
> http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/album/if-it-carries-on-like-this-we-are-moving-to-morecambe
>
>
> <http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/album/if-it-carries-on-like-this-we-are-moving-to-morecambe>this
> track is all DL4 loops:
>
> http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/track/hotel-no-6
>
> <http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/track/hotel-no-6>What i really
> wanted to try was them in context of a very loud improvising rock band.
>
> Let me know what u think.... (its all pay what you want). I also did some
> standard looping, just for a few bars here and there, otherwise its hard to
> keep it in time :)
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Matt Stevens
> http://www.fierceandthedead.com
> http://www.mattstevensguitar.com
> http://www.spencerparkmusic.com
> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com
>
>
>
>

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Matt Stevens <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mattstevensguitar@btin=
ternet.com">mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div style=3D"wor=
d-wrap: break-word;">Thanks Jason - i don&#39;t really feel like a &quot;pr=
oper looper&quot; cause i use very basic equipment :)<div>
<br><div>
<span style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:=
 Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transfo=
rm: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span=
 style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helv=
etica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; lette=
r-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: n=
one; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><div style=
=3D"word-wrap: break-word;">
Matt Stevens</div><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word;"><a href=3D"http://w=
ww.fierceandthedead.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.fierceandthedead.com<=
/a><br><a href=3D"http://www.mattstevensguitar.com" target=3D"_blank">http:=
//www.mattstevensguitar.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.spencerparkmusic.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.sp=
encerparkmusic.com</a><br><a href=3D"mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.co=
m" target=3D"_blank">mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com</a></div></span></spa=
n>
</div>
<br><div><div>On 16 May 2011, at 17:44, jason finnern wrote:</div><br><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><span style=3D"border-collapse: separate; font-family:=
 Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transfo=
rm: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-family: &#39;times new roman&#39;,&#39;new =
york&#39;,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style=3D"margin: 0px;">Cool s=
tuff<br></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-family: &#39;times new roman&=
#39;,&#39;new york&#39;,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">
<br><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-family: &#39;times new roman&#39;,&#39;=
new york&#39;,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"=
2"><hr size=3D"1"><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b><sp=
an>=A0</span>Matt Stevens &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinterne=
t.com" target=3D"_blank">mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b><span>=A0</span><a href=
=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank">Loopers-D=
elight@loopers-delight.com</a><br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sen=
t:</span></b><span>=A0</span>Mon, May 16, 2011 5:51:29 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b><span>=A0</span>Lo=
oping in a band context/new album spam :)<br></font><br>Hi guys<div style=
=3D"margin: 0px;"><br></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;">Just wanted to play=
 this, its my band project - lots of ambient DL4 loops:</div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><br></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><a href=
=3D"http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/album/if-it-carries-on-like-thi=
s-we-are-moving-to-morecambe" target=3D"_blank">http://thefierceandthedead.=
bandcamp.com/album/if-it-carries-on-like-this-we-are-moving-to-morecambe</a=
></div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><br></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><a href=
=3D"http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/album/if-it-carries-on-like-thi=
s-we-are-moving-to-morecambe" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"></a>this t=
rack is all DL4 loops:</div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><br></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><a href=
=3D"http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/track/hotel-no-6" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/track/hotel-no-6</a></div><div=
 style=3D"margin: 0px;">
<br></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><a href=3D"http://thefierceandthedead=
.bandcamp.com/track/hotel-no-6" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"></a>What=
 i really wanted to try was them in context of a very loud improvising rock=
 band.=A0</div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><br></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;">Let me kn=
ow what u think.... (its all pay what you want). I also did some standard l=
ooping, just for a few bars here and there, otherwise its hard to keep it i=
n time :)</div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><br></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><br></div=
><div style=3D"margin: 0px;">Thanks</div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><br></=
div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><br></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><br><=
div style=3D"margin: 0px;">
<div style=3D"margin: 0px; word-wrap: break-word;">Matt Stevens</div><div s=
tyle=3D"margin: 0px; word-wrap: break-word;"><a href=3D"http://www.fiercean=
dthedead.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.fierceandthedead.com</a><br><a h=
ref=3D"http://www.mattstevensguitar.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.matts=
tevensguitar.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.spencerparkmusic.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.sp=
encerparkmusic.com</a><br><a href=3D"mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.co=
m" target=3D"_blank">mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com</a></div></div><br></=
div>
</div></div></div></div></span><br></blockquote></div><br></div></div></blo=
ckquote></div><br>

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Here are a couple vids I did with some basic looping and funky grooving.

http://www.youtube.com/user/islandfunk1

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Basic equipment is just as proper as complex equipment. The most
common looping equipment I see is DL-4s and Loopstations.

Also, being a looper in a band context, it's better to not be
distracted by all the bells and whistles and feelings of "I'm only
using 10% of my looper's brainpower!"
...or drowning out the rest of the band with your multiple versions of your=
self!

I think it's important to get the looping device to work for your
band, rather than vice versa. The DL-4 starts out good and modest for
band applications.

--=20
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt



On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Matt Stevens
<mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Thanks Jason - i don't really feel like a "proper looper" cause i use ver=
y
> basic equipment :)
> Matt Stevens
> http://www.fierceandthedead.com
> http://www.mattstevensguitar.com
> http://www.spencerparkmusic.com
> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com
> On 16 May 2011, at 17:44, jason finnern wrote:
>
> Cool stuff
>
> ________________________________
> From:=A0Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>
> To:=A0Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Sent:=A0Mon, May 16, 2011 5:51:29 AM
> Subject:=A0Looping in a band context/new album spam :)
>
> Hi guys
> Just wanted to play this, its my band project - lots of ambient DL4 loops=
:
> http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/album/if-it-carries-on-like-this-=
we-are-moving-to-morecambe
> this track is all DL4 loops:
> http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/track/hotel-no-6
> What i really wanted to try was them in context of a very loud improvisin=
g
> rock band.
> Let me know what u think.... (its all pay what you want). I also did some
> standard looping, just for a few bars here and there, otherwise its hard =
to
> keep it in time :)
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Matt Stevens
> http://www.fierceandthedead.com
> http://www.mattstevensguitar.com
> http://www.spencerparkmusic.com
> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com
>
>
>

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ok i might even try that instead;-)

On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Simeon Harris
<simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
> that sounds like it might be a good solution, but bricks with mouse mats on
> top gets my vote! :O)
> sim
>
> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> thats more like it Simeon though not cheap,i found a place where you
>> can buy bricks of rubber and have them cut to your need so i might
>> just do that.
>> Thanx!
>> Luis
>>
>



-- 
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I hear you Petri i was having problems with the software as well on
the macbook and then i tried it on the imac and it works quite well,so
thats another reason i decided to keep it.
cheers
Luis

On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Petri Lahtinen
<kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
> ("vast sea to dive in" was the sentence....)
>
> 2011/5/15 Petri Lahtinen <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com>
>>
>> I think many limitations with these hardware loopers can be turned into
>> possibilities.
>>
>> I myself want limitations, the music itself is so vast se to dive in=A0 =
:-D
>>
>> Or maybe I'm just losing my friggin mind...
>>
>> Louie->The software on Digitech stopped working on my XP-machine, so the
>> unit became a piece of metal to me. RC-30's memory, you can access it as=
 a
>> norma USB-memory.
>> No software needed. I think Digitech made a huge mistake by closing the
>> JamMan Stereo's memory by making it accessible only with their piece of =
****
>> software, that's programmed on Microsoft Silverlight, which is a joke in
>> itself.
>>
>> Sorry, a quite a burst of sentiment, but those are MHO's, at this time.
>>
>> :-D
>>
>> -Petri-
>>
>> 2011/5/15 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
>>>
>>> Hi Petr,
>>> yes i tried it but decided to keep the Digitech for what i do,it would
>>> have been nice if those 2 independent tracks could be different in
>>> length as if u multiplied so i really didnt see much of an advantage
>>> i didnt like that you had to press undo for 2 seconds or to change
>>> parts without the switch,for what i do is a bit tedious since im
>>> singing as well.
>>> But the switches are really nice,i might have the Digis changed for
>>> quieter ones!
>>> Luis
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Petri Lahtinen
>>> <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Hi Louie!
>>> >
>>> > I bought the RC-30 and its really good.
>>> > Silent switches, two tracks, the extra footswitch is small and fitted
>>> > my
>>> > pedalboard well.
>>> > (FS-6) and with it you can do everything with feet. Well, not start t=
he
>>> > rhythms, I mean the unit's own drum machine, that is.
>>> >
>>> > I dont do ABC or any other song forms nowadays, so I dont mind the
>>> > undo's 2
>>> > sec thing.
>>> >
>>> > I'm really pleased with it, it surely fills my small needs as a loopi=
ng
>>> > device.
>>> >
>>> > -Petri-
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 2011/4/27 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi Petri,
>>> >> how funny that im doing the same thing!
>>> >> You arer absolutely right,that software is anoying,im preparing for =
a
>>> >> gig this saturday and it took me almost an hour to get some samples
>>> >> transfered to the Digitech from their flimsy software,there is a new
>>> >> firmware version which i installed prior to working with it,i dont
>>> >> know what that is meant for,i started importing wav files and in the
>>> >> middle of working it crashed bad and lost it all, so i had to restar=
t
>>> >> again.Prior to that i was rehearsing with it and as i was scrolling
>>> >> through the samples the digitech froze and cound not get it to do
>>> >> anything so i reboot it and found out i had lost every other sample =
in
>>> >> a slot,luckly i had made a jam list backup so i retransfered all the
>>> >> files.
>>> >> what i do like about the digitech is the easy of scrolling through t=
he
>>> >> samples,but that switch click is so loud that it gets recorded
>>> >> everytime i loop anything(i have my mic going into the loops as well=
)
>>> >> I dont know why they replaced the old switches,they seem a lot
>>> >> quieter, think the Boss-RC30 will be better in that department.
>>> >> oh dont waste your time trying to call them or suggest
>>> >> improvements,their support is nada!
>>> >> Im also getting the RC-30 perhaps today or tomorrow to try out,im ju=
st
>>> >> using this for small pedalboard type of bar gigs and no racks,the
>>> >> RC-30 has an essential feature for me like the independent tracks,is
>>> >> too bad they didnt assign the undo/redo with the footswitch like the
>>> >> Digitech has,you still have to step on it 2 seconds impractical if u
>>> >> want ot do A-B arrangments grrr!
>>> >> oh well lets see if it beats the Digi
>>> >> cheers
>>> >> Luis
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Petri Lahtinen
>>> >> <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> > Hi and thanks to everybody for your responses!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > BUT it seems that RC-50 is not available here in Finland, anymore.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > The Roland headquarters is Denmark that supply gear to Nordic
>>> >> > countries
>>> >> > had
>>> >> > replied to my store, that they dont have any RC-50's there.
>>> >> > The chain of stores I use here in Finland, doesnt have not one uni=
t
>>> >> > here. So
>>> >> > will it become a discontinued product that gets replaced by the ne=
w
>>> >> > RC-30...
>>> >> > who knows...?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > SO I'm getting the new RC-30 for test drive next week.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Looking at the manual, it seems pretty straightforward unit. Need
>>> >> > extra
>>> >> > footswitch, which is always annoying.
>>> >> > Probably nobody on the list doesnt have one of those, cause its so
>>> >> > new
>>> >> > unit?
>>> >> > Think it was 2011 January when the first units shipped.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > -Petri-
>>> >> >
>>> >> > 2011/4/26 Victor Eijkhout <victor@eijkhout.net>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On Apr 25, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> > Were there RC-50 users on the list?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Check. Just bought it a month ago so I'm still learning. Fun toy
>>> >> >> though.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Victor.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > --
>>> >> > Petri Lahtinen
>>> >> >
>>> >> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> www.luis-angulo.com
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Petri Lahtinen
>>> >
>>> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> www.luis-angulo.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Petri Lahtinen
>>
>> http://www.petrilahtinen.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Petri Lahtinen
>
> http://www.petrilahtinen.com
>
>



--=20
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Wicked slapping Andre! Nice groove too -I am mainly an upright bass bower g=
uy, but have been doing some funk/soul stuff with a little club band in the=
 last year and am having a lot of fun trying to slap a bit, I'm going to st=
eal a couple of your licks for my next gig ;) =0A=0A--- On Mon, 5/16/11, "A=
ndr=E9 Donawa" <andre@andredonawa.com> wrote:=0A=0A> From: "Andr=E9 Donawa"=
 <andre@andredonawa.com>=0A> Subject: Funky Bass Looping=0A> To: "Loopers-D=
elight Loopers-Delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>=0A> Date: Mon=
day, May 16, 2011, 5:42 PM=0A> Here are a couple vids I did with=0A> some b=
asic looping and funky grooving.=0A> =0A> http://www.youtube.com/user/islan=
dfunk1=0A> =0A> Andre=0A> =0A> =0A> http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress=0A>=
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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Matt Davignon wrote:
> I think it's important to get the looping device to work for your
> band, rather than vice versa. The DL-4 starts out good and modest for
> band applications.
I agree with your assessment but I wanted to say that the only thing 
that makes me shy from recommending
the DL-4 right now is the fact that it has no way of retriggering a loop 
in a continuous way in case the rest
of the band becomes out of sync with the rest of the band in 
non-syncrhronized situations.

The DL-4 only has a retrigger once option which necessitates some tricky 
footwork (hitting retrigger/one shot
once,  hitting play/stop once and hitting play/stop again to restart the 
loop in time with the band.

I've had to use this technique so many times in the event of failed 
synchronization or the complete lack of synchronization
in performance with other musician.

It is specifically for this reason that I added the feature  ReTrigger 
Continuous to the new LP-2 Mini Looper
that Bob Amstadt will be releasing shortly .

For $50 more than a DL-4  this looper also has half a dozen features not 
found in a looper at this price range.
(including storage of loops onboard,  midi sync I/O,  30 levels of 
undo,  feedback control, 1/2,1/4 speeds, reverse,
replace, and Q-replace.

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Quite amazing.

http://joshuafrankel.net/projectPages/POTC.html


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Thanks Steve,

Have fun with the licks.
I'm sure you will reinterpret them in your own way.

Andre

On Mon, May 16, 2011 9:53 pm, Steve Uccello wrote:
> Wicked slapping Andre! Nice groove too -I am mainly an upright bass bower
> guy, but have been doing some funk/soul stuff with a little club band in
> the last year and am having a lot of fun trying to slap a bit, I'm going
> to steal a couple of your licks for my next gig ;)
>
> --- On Mon, 5/16/11, "André Donawa" <andre@andredonawa.com> wrote:
>
>> From: "André Donawa" <andre@andredonawa.com>
>> Subject: Funky Bass Looping
>> To: "Loopers-Delight Loopers-Delight"
>> <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>> Date: Monday, May 16, 2011, 5:42 PM
>> Here are a couple vids I did with
>> some basic looping and funky grooving.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/user/islandfunk1
>>
>> Andre
>>
>>
>> http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress
>>
>>
>>
>
>


http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress
http://www.andredonawa.com
http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa
http://www.youtube.com/user/AndreDonawa

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Agreed Matt=2C It's what you do with it!

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> Date: Mon=2C 16 May 2011 17:49:17 -0700
> Subject: Re: Looping in a band context/new album spam :)
> From: mattdavignon@gmail.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=20
> Basic equipment is just as proper as complex equipment. The most
> common looping equipment I see is DL-4s and Loopstations.
>=20
> Also=2C being a looper in a band context=2C it's better to not be
> distracted by all the bells and whistles and feelings of "I'm only
> using 10% of my looper's brainpower!"
> ...or drowning out the rest of the band with your multiple versions of yo=
urself!
>=20
> I think it's important to get the looping device to work for your
> band=2C rather than vice versa. The DL-4 starts out good and modest for
> band applications.
>=20
> --=20
> Matt Davignon
> mattdavignon@gmail.com
> www.ribosomemusic.com
> Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Mon=2C May 16=2C 2011 at 1:24 PM=2C Matt Stevens
> <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > Thanks Jason - i don't really feel like a "proper looper" cause i use v=
ery
> > basic equipment :)
> > Matt Stevens
> > http://www.fierceandthedead.com
> > http://www.mattstevensguitar.com
> > http://www.spencerparkmusic.com
> > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com
> > On 16 May 2011=2C at 17:44=2C jason finnern wrote:
> >
> > Cool stuff
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>
> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > Sent: Mon=2C May 16=2C 2011 5:51:29 AM
> > Subject: Looping in a band context/new album spam :)
> >
> > Hi guys
> > Just wanted to play this=2C its my band project - lots of ambient DL4 l=
oops:
> > http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/album/if-it-carries-on-like-thi=
s-we-are-moving-to-morecambe
> > this track is all DL4 loops:
> > http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/track/hotel-no-6
> > What i really wanted to try was them in context of a very loud improvis=
ing
> > rock band.
> > Let me know what u think.... (its all pay what you want). I also did so=
me
> > standard looping=2C just for a few bars here and there=2C otherwise its=
 hard to
> > keep it in time :)
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > Matt Stevens
> > http://www.fierceandthedead.com
> > http://www.mattstevensguitar.com
> > http://www.spencerparkmusic.com
> > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com
> >
> >
> >
>=20
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r.com<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B http://www.spencerparkmusic.com<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B mat=
tstevensguitar@btinternet.com<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B On 16 May 2011=2C at 17:44=
=2C jason finnern wrote:<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B Cool stuff<br>&g=
t=3B &gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B ________________________________<br>&gt=3B &gt=
=3B From:&nbsp=3BMatt Stevens &lt=3Bmattstevensguitar@btinternet.com&gt=3B<=
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just for a few bars here and there=2C otherwise its hard to<br>&gt=3B &gt=
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gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B Matt Stevens<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B http:=
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Blimey :)  - and i do use 2 DL4s :)=20

Matt Stevens
http://www.fierceandthedead.com
http://www.mattstevensguitar.com
http://www.spencerparkmusic.com
mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com

On 17 May 2011, at 07:33, Gareth Whittock wrote:

> Agreed Matt,=20
> It's what you do with it!
>=20
>=20
> Gareth, Sentientfx -  Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/
>=20
>=20
>=20
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 17:49:17 -0700
> > Subject: Re: Looping in a band context/new album spam :)
> > From: mattdavignon@gmail.com
> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> >=20
> > Basic equipment is just as proper as complex equipment. The most
> > common looping equipment I see is DL-4s and Loopstations.
> >=20
> > Also, being a looper in a band context, it's better to not be
> > distracted by all the bells and whistles and feelings of "I'm only
> > using 10% of my looper's brainpower!"
> > ...or drowning out the rest of the band with your multiple versions =
of yourself!
> >=20
> > I think it's important to get the looping device to work for your
> > band, rather than vice versa. The DL-4 starts out good and modest =
for
> > band applications.
> >=20
> > --=20
> > Matt Davignon
> > mattdavignon@gmail.com
> > www.ribosomemusic.com
> > Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Matt Stevens
> > <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > > Thanks Jason - i don't really feel like a "proper looper" cause i =
use very
> > > basic equipment :)
> > > Matt Stevens
> > > http://www.fierceandthedead.com
> > > http://www.mattstevensguitar.com
> > > http://www.spencerparkmusic.com
> > > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com
> > > On 16 May 2011, at 17:44, jason finnern wrote:
> > >
> > > Cool stuff
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>
> > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > > Sent: Mon, May 16, 2011 5:51:29 AM
> > > Subject: Looping in a band context/new album spam :)
> > >
> > > Hi guys
> > > Just wanted to play this, its my band project - lots of ambient =
DL4 loops:
> > > =
http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/album/if-it-carries-on-like-this-w=
e-are-moving-to-morecambe
> > > this track is all DL4 loops:
> > > http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/track/hotel-no-6
> > > What i really wanted to try was them in context of a very loud =
improvising
> > > rock band.
> > > Let me know what u think.... (its all pay what you want). I also =
did some
> > > standard looping, just for a few bars here and there, otherwise =
its hard to
> > > keep it in time :)
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > > Matt Stevens
> > > http://www.fierceandthedead.com
> > > http://www.mattstevensguitar.com
> > > http://www.spencerparkmusic.com
> > > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >=20


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after-white-space; ">Blimey :) &nbsp;- and i do use 2 DL4s =
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rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: =
normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: =
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auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div =
style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Matt Stevens</div><div =
style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><a =
href=3D"http://www.fierceandthedead.com">http://www.fierceandthedead.com</=
a><br>http://www.mattstevensguitar.com<br>http://www.spencerparkmusic.com<=
br>mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com</div></span></span>
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<br><div><div>On 17 May 2011, at 07:33, Gareth Whittock wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; =
font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
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auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div =
class=3D"hmmessage" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; =
">Agreed Matt,&nbsp;<div>It's what you do with it!<div><br><br>Gareth, =
Sentientfx -&nbsp; Innovative music plugins.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"http://sentientfx.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">http://sentientfx.com/</a><br><br><br><br>&gt; Date: =
Mon, 16 May 2011 17:49:17 -0700<br>&gt; Subject: Re: Looping in a band =
context/new album spam :)<br>&gt; From:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:mattdavignon@gmail.com">mattdavignon@gmail.com</a><br>&gt; =
To:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com</a><br>&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; Basic equipment is =
just as proper as complex equipment. The most<br>&gt; common looping =
equipment I see is DL-4s and Loopstations.<br>&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; Also, being a =
looper in a band context, it's better to not be<br>&gt; distracted by =
all the bells and whistles and feelings of "I'm only<br>&gt; using 10% =
of my looper's brainpower!"<br>&gt; ...or drowning out the rest of the =
band with your multiple versions of yourself!<br>&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; I think it's =
important to get the looping device to work for your<br>&gt; band, =
rather than vice versa. The DL-4 starts out good and modest for<br>&gt; =
band applications.<br>&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; --<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; Matt =
Davignon<br>&gt;<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:mattdavignon@gmail.com">mattdavignon@gmail.com</a><br>&gt;<=
span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"http://www.ribosomemusic.com">www.ribosomemusic.com</a><br>&gt; =
Rigs!<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt">www.youtube.com/user/rib=
osomematt</a><br>&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; On Mon, May 16, =
2011 at 1:24 PM, Matt Stevens<br>&gt; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com">mattstevensguitar@btinter=
net.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; Thanks Jason - i don't really feel =
like a "proper looper" cause i use very<br>&gt; &gt; basic equipment =
:)<br>&gt; &gt; Matt Stevens<br>&gt; &gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"http://www.fierceandthedead.com">http://www.fierceandthedead.com</=
a><br>&gt; &gt;<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"http://www.mattstevensguitar.com">http://www.mattstevensguitar.com=
</a><br>&gt; &gt;<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"http://www.spencerparkmusic.com">http://www.spencerparkmusic.com</=
a><br>&gt; &gt;<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com">mattstevensguitar@btinter=
net.com</a><br>&gt; &gt; On 16 May 2011, at 17:44, jason finnern =
wrote:<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Cool stuff<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; =
________________________________<br>&gt; &gt; From:&nbsp;Matt Stevens =
&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com">mattstevensguitar@btinter=
net.com</a>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; To:&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com</a><br>&gt; &gt; Sent:&nbsp;Mon, May 16, 2011 5:51:29 =
AM<br>&gt; &gt; Subject:&nbsp;Looping in a band context/new album spam =
:)<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Hi guys<br>&gt; &gt; Just wanted to play =
this, its my band project - lots of ambient DL4 loops:<br>&gt; &gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/album/if-it-carries-on-lik=
e-this-we-are-moving-to-morecambe">http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com=
/album/if-it-carries-on-like-this-we-are-moving-to-morecambe</a><br>&gt; =
&gt; this track is all DL4 loops:<br>&gt; &gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/track/hotel-no-6">http://t=
hefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/track/hotel-no-6</a><br>&gt; &gt; What i =
really wanted to try was them in context of a very loud =
improvising<br>&gt; &gt; rock band.<br>&gt; &gt; Let me know what u =
think.... (its all pay what you want). I also did some<br>&gt; &gt; =
standard looping, just for a few bars here and there, otherwise its hard =
to<br>&gt; &gt; keep it in time :)<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; =
Thanks<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Matt Stevens<br>&gt; =
&gt;<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"http://www.fierceandthedead.com">http://www.fierceandthedead.com</=
a><br>&gt; &gt;<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
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</a><br>&gt; &gt;<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
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a><br>&gt; &gt;<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com">mattstevensguitar@btinter=
net.com</a><br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;<span =
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My main point of getting rid of it were the LOUD switches, and I dont have
Leopard OS on my Mac's.
If it reads "Windows XP" on the box, then it shoulda work on XP ;-)
I tested it with Windows 7, in the store that took it back and gave me the
RC-30, it worked fine on Win7 too.

I just dont want to upgrade all my computers when I'm using one 300 e worth
piece of machine.

2011/5/17 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>

> I hear you Petri i was having problems with the software as well on
> the macbook and then i tried it on the imac and it works quite well,so
> thats another reason i decided to keep it.
> cheers
> Luis
>
> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Petri Lahtinen
> <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
> > ("vast sea to dive in" was the sentence....)
> >
> > 2011/5/15 Petri Lahtinen <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com>
> >>
> >> I think many limitations with these hardware loopers can be turned into
> >> possibilities.
> >>
> >> I myself want limitations, the music itself is so vast se to dive in
> :-D
> >>
> >> Or maybe I'm just losing my friggin mind...
> >>
> >> Louie->The software on Digitech stopped working on my XP-machine, so the
> >> unit became a piece of metal to me. RC-30's memory, you can access it as
> a
> >> norma USB-memory.
> >> No software needed. I think Digitech made a huge mistake by closing the
> >> JamMan Stereo's memory by making it accessible only with their piece of
> ****
> >> software, that's programmed on Microsoft Silverlight, which is a joke in
> >> itself.
> >>
> >> Sorry, a quite a burst of sentiment, but those are MHO's, at this time.
> >>
> >> :-D
> >>
> >> -Petri-
> >>
> >> 2011/5/15 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
> >>>
> >>> Hi Petr,
> >>> yes i tried it but decided to keep the Digitech for what i do,it would
> >>> have been nice if those 2 independent tracks could be different in
> >>> length as if u multiplied so i really didnt see much of an advantage
> >>> i didnt like that you had to press undo for 2 seconds or to change
> >>> parts without the switch,for what i do is a bit tedious since im
> >>> singing as well.
> >>> But the switches are really nice,i might have the Digis changed for
> >>> quieter ones!
> >>> Luis
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Petri Lahtinen
> >>> <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > Hi Louie!
> >>> >
> >>> > I bought the RC-30 and its really good.
> >>> > Silent switches, two tracks, the extra footswitch is small and fitted
> >>> > my
> >>> > pedalboard well.
> >>> > (FS-6) and with it you can do everything with feet. Well, not start
> the
> >>> > rhythms, I mean the unit's own drum machine, that is.
> >>> >
> >>> > I dont do ABC or any other song forms nowadays, so I dont mind the
> >>> > undo's 2
> >>> > sec thing.
> >>> >
> >>> > I'm really pleased with it, it surely fills my small needs as a
> looping
> >>> > device.
> >>> >
> >>> > -Petri-
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > 2011/4/27 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Hi Petri,
> >>> >> how funny that im doing the same thing!
> >>> >> You arer absolutely right,that software is anoying,im preparing for
> a
> >>> >> gig this saturday and it took me almost an hour to get some samples
> >>> >> transfered to the Digitech from their flimsy software,there is a new
> >>> >> firmware version which i installed prior to working with it,i dont
> >>> >> know what that is meant for,i started importing wav files and in the
> >>> >> middle of working it crashed bad and lost it all, so i had to
> restart
> >>> >> again.Prior to that i was rehearsing with it and as i was scrolling
> >>> >> through the samples the digitech froze and cound not get it to do
> >>> >> anything so i reboot it and found out i had lost every other sample
> in
> >>> >> a slot,luckly i had made a jam list backup so i retransfered all the
> >>> >> files.
> >>> >> what i do like about the digitech is the easy of scrolling through
> the
> >>> >> samples,but that switch click is so loud that it gets recorded
> >>> >> everytime i loop anything(i have my mic going into the loops as
> well)
> >>> >> I dont know why they replaced the old switches,they seem a lot
> >>> >> quieter, think the Boss-RC30 will be better in that department.
> >>> >> oh dont waste your time trying to call them or suggest
> >>> >> improvements,their support is nada!
> >>> >> Im also getting the RC-30 perhaps today or tomorrow to try out,im
> just
> >>> >> using this for small pedalboard type of bar gigs and no racks,the
> >>> >> RC-30 has an essential feature for me like the independent tracks,is
> >>> >> too bad they didnt assign the undo/redo with the footswitch like the
> >>> >> Digitech has,you still have to step on it 2 seconds impractical if u
> >>> >> want ot do A-B arrangments grrr!
> >>> >> oh well lets see if it beats the Digi
> >>> >> cheers
> >>> >> Luis
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Petri Lahtinen
> >>> >> <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >> > Hi and thanks to everybody for your responses!
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > BUT it seems that RC-50 is not available here in Finland, anymore.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > The Roland headquarters is Denmark that supply gear to Nordic
> >>> >> > countries
> >>> >> > had
> >>> >> > replied to my store, that they dont have any RC-50's there.
> >>> >> > The chain of stores I use here in Finland, doesnt have not one
> unit
> >>> >> > here. So
> >>> >> > will it become a discontinued product that gets replaced by the
> new
> >>> >> > RC-30...
> >>> >> > who knows...?
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > SO I'm getting the new RC-30 for test drive next week.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Looking at the manual, it seems pretty straightforward unit. Need
> >>> >> > extra
> >>> >> > footswitch, which is always annoying.
> >>> >> > Probably nobody on the list doesnt have one of those, cause its so
> >>> >> > new
> >>> >> > unit?
> >>> >> > Think it was 2011 January when the first units shipped.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > -Petri-
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > 2011/4/26 Victor Eijkhout <victor@eijkhout.net>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> On Apr 25, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote:
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> > Were there RC-50 users on the list?
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Check. Just bought it a month ago so I'm still learning. Fun toy
> >>> >> >> though.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Victor.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > --
> >>> >> > Petri Lahtinen
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> --
> >>> >> www.luis-angulo.com
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > Petri Lahtinen
> >>> >
> >>> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> www.luis-angulo.com
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Petri Lahtinen
> >>
> >> http://www.petrilahtinen.com
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Petri Lahtinen
> >
> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> www.luis-angulo.com
>
>


-- 
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http://www.petrilahtinen.com

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My main point of getting rid of it were the LOUD switches, and I dont have =
Leopard OS on my Mac&#39;s.<br>If it reads &quot;Windows XP&quot; on the bo=
x, then it shoulda work on XP ;-)<br>I tested it with Windows 7, in the sto=
re that took it back and gave me the RC-30, it worked fine on Win7 too.<br>
<br>I just dont want to upgrade all my computers when I&#39;m using one 300=
 e worth piece of machine.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/5/17 Loui=
e Angulo <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:louie.angulo@googlemail.co=
m">louie.angulo@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">I hear you Petri i was having problems with=
 the software as well on<br>
the macbook and then i tried it on the imac and it works quite well,so<br>
thats another reason i decided to keep it.<br>
cheers<br>
Luis<br>
<br>
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Petri Lahtinen<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kollegavalmentaja@g=
mail.com">kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; (&quot;vast sea to dive in&quot; was the sentence....)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 2011/5/15 Petri Lahtinen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kollegavalmentaja@gmail=
.com">kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I think many limitations with these hardware loopers can be turned=
 into<br>
&gt;&gt; possibilities.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I myself want limitations, the music itself is so vast se to dive =
in=A0 :-D<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Or maybe I&#39;m just losing my friggin mind...<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Louie-&gt;The software on Digitech stopped working on my XP-machin=
e, so the<br>
&gt;&gt; unit became a piece of metal to me. RC-30&#39;s memory, you can ac=
cess it as a<br>
&gt;&gt; norma USB-memory.<br>
&gt;&gt; No software needed. I think Digitech made a huge mistake by closin=
g the<br>
&gt;&gt; JamMan Stereo&#39;s memory by making it accessible only with their=
 piece of ****<br>
&gt;&gt; software, that&#39;s programmed on Microsoft Silverlight, which is=
 a joke in<br>
&gt;&gt; itself.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Sorry, a quite a burst of sentiment, but those are MHO&#39;s, at t=
his time.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; :-D<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; -Petri-<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; 2011/5/15 Louie Angulo &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:louie.angulo@googlema=
il.com">louie.angulo@googlemail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Hi Petr,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; yes i tried it but decided to keep the Digitech for what i do,=
it would<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; have been nice if those 2 independent tracks could be differen=
t in<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; length as if u multiplied so i really didnt see much of an adv=
antage<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; i didnt like that you had to press undo for 2 seconds or to ch=
ange<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; parts without the switch,for what i do is a bit tedious since =
im<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; singing as well.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; But the switches are really nice,i might have the Digis change=
d for<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; quieter ones!<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Luis<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Petri Lahtinen<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com">kollegavalm=
entaja@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Hi Louie!<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; I bought the RC-30 and its really good.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Silent switches, two tracks, the extra footswitch is smal=
l and fitted<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; my<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; pedalboard well.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; (FS-6) and with it you can do everything with feet. Well,=
 not start the<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; rhythms, I mean the unit&#39;s own drum machine, that is.=
<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; I dont do ABC or any other song forms nowadays, so I dont=
 mind the<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; undo&#39;s 2<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; sec thing.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; I&#39;m really pleased with it, it surely fills my small =
needs as a looping<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; device.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; -Petri-<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; 2011/4/27 Louie Angulo &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:louie.angulo=
@googlemail.com">louie.angulo@googlemail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Hi Petri,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; how funny that im doing the same thing!<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; You arer absolutely right,that software is anoying,im=
 preparing for a<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; gig this saturday and it took me almost an hour to ge=
t some samples<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; transfered to the Digitech from their flimsy software=
,there is a new<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; firmware version which i installed prior to working w=
ith it,i dont<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; know what that is meant for,i started importing wav f=
iles and in the<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; middle of working it crashed bad and lost it all, so =
i had to restart<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; again.Prior to that i was rehearsing with it and as i=
 was scrolling<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; through the samples the digitech froze and cound not =
get it to do<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; anything so i reboot it and found out i had lost ever=
y other sample in<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; a slot,luckly i had made a jam list backup so i retra=
nsfered all the<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; files.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; what i do like about the digitech is the easy of scro=
lling through the<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; samples,but that switch click is so loud that it gets=
 recorded<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; everytime i loop anything(i have my mic going into th=
e loops as well)<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; I dont know why they replaced the old switches,they s=
eem a lot<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; quieter, think the Boss-RC30 will be better in that d=
epartment.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; oh dont waste your time trying to call them or sugges=
t<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; improvements,their support is nada!<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Im also getting the RC-30 perhaps today or tomorrow t=
o try out,im just<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; using this for small pedalboard type of bar gigs and =
no racks,the<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; RC-30 has an essential feature for me like the indepe=
ndent tracks,is<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; too bad they didnt assign the undo/redo with the foot=
switch like the<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Digitech has,you still have to step on it 2 seconds i=
mpractical if u<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; want ot do A-B arrangments grrr!<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; oh well lets see if it beats the Digi<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; cheers<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Luis<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Petri Lahtinen<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com">ko=
llegavalmentaja@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Hi and thanks to everybody for your responses!<b=
r>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; BUT it seems that RC-50 is not available here in=
 Finland, anymore.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; The Roland headquarters is Denmark that supply g=
ear to Nordic<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; countries<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; had<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; replied to my store, that they dont have any RC-=
50&#39;s there.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; The chain of stores I use here in Finland, doesn=
t have not one unit<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; here. So<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; will it become a discontinued product that gets =
replaced by the new<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; RC-30...<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; who knows...?<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; SO I&#39;m getting the new RC-30 for test drive =
next week.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Looking at the manual, it seems pretty straightf=
orward unit. Need<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; extra<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; footswitch, which is always annoying.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Probably nobody on the list doesnt have one of t=
hose, cause its so<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; new<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; unit?<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Think it was 2011 January when the first units s=
hipped.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; -Petri-<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; 2011/4/26 Victor Eijkhout &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
victor@eijkhout.net">victor@eijkhout.net</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; On Apr 25, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Petri Lahtinen =
wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Were there RC-50 users on the list?<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Check. Just bought it a month ago so I&#39;m=
 still learning. Fun toy<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; though.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Victor.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Petri Lahtinen<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; <a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.petrilahtinen.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.luis-angulo.com" target=3D"_bla=
nk">www.luis-angulo.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Petri Lahtinen<br>
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&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.luis-angulo.com" target=3D"_blank">www.l=
uis-angulo.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; Petri Lahtinen<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
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www.petrilahtinen.com</a><br>
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&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.=
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Rick Walker wrote:

> I agree with your assessment but I wanted to say that the only thing 
> that makes me shy from recommending
> the DL-4 right now is the fact that it has no way of retriggering a loop 
> in a continuous way in case the rest
> of the band becomes out of sync with the rest of the band in 
> non-syncrhronized situations.

I reckon that once sync is lost you need to re-record the loop
at the new tempo.

If the looper has a time stretch that can help too,
although you still need to re-trigger.
(with the EH Stereo Memory Man the procedure is stop loop,
 tap the time, start the loop, so it's hardly seamless)

Really though, and I think Rick would agree, this is
all "crisis management". If you're having to re-sync
then it's going to sound bad...a better strategy 
is preferable.

andy
ps
I thought the DL4 let you get round that limitation 
by hitting Ply/Stop during the One Shot playback.
..or it re-triggers continuous when you do that.
Rick?Matt?Bill?anyone?

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> From: Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) [mailto:emile@foryourhead.com] 
> Quite amazing.
> http://joshuafrankel.net/projectPages/POTC.html

amazing indeed, very creative and moving

-Michael

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Thanks Jeff :)=20

Matt Stevens
http://www.fierceandthedead.com
http://www.mattstevensguitar.com
http://www.spencerparkmusic.com
mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com

On 17 May 2011, at 00:11, Jeff Duke wrote:

> Proper, yeah whatever Matt! :) Great album man, I am really enjoying =
it!=20
>=20
> J
>=20
> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Matt Stevens =
<mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Thanks Jason - i don't really feel like a "proper looper" cause i use =
very basic equipment :)
>=20
> Matt Stevens
> http://www.fierceandthedead.com
> http://www.mattstevensguitar.com
> http://www.spencerparkmusic.com
> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com
>=20
> On 16 May 2011, at 17:44, jason finnern wrote:
>=20
>> Cool stuff
>>=20
>> From: Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> Sent: Mon, May 16, 2011 5:51:29 AM
>> Subject: Looping in a band context/new album spam :)
>>=20
>> Hi guys
>>=20
>> Just wanted to play this, its my band project - lots of ambient DL4 =
loops:
>>=20
>> =
http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/album/if-it-carries-on-like-this-w=
e-are-moving-to-morecambe
>>=20
>> this track is all DL4 loops:
>>=20
>> http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/track/hotel-no-6
>>=20
>> What i really wanted to try was them in context of a very loud =
improvising rock band.=20
>>=20
>> Let me know what u think.... (its all pay what you want). I also did =
some standard looping, just for a few bars here and there, otherwise its =
hard to keep it in time :)
>>=20
>>=20
>> Thanks
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Matt Stevens
>> http://www.fierceandthedead.com
>> http://www.mattstevensguitar.com
>> http://www.spencerparkmusic.com
>> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com
>>=20
>>=20
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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; =
">Thanks Jeff :)&nbsp;<div><br><div>
<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; =
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0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: =
normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div =
style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Matt Stevens</div><div =
style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><a =
href=3D"http://www.fierceandthedead.com">http://www.fierceandthedead.com</=
a><br>http://www.mattstevensguitar.com<br>http://www.spencerparkmusic.com<=
br>mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com</div></span></span>
</div>
<br><div><div>On 17 May 2011, at 00:11, Jeff Duke wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite">Proper, =
yeah whatever Matt! :) Great album man, I am really enjoying it! =
<br><br>J<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 4:24 =
PM, Matt Stevens <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com">mattstevensguitar@btinter=
net.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; =
border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap: break-word;">Thanks Jason - i don't really feel like =
a "proper looper" cause i use very basic equipment :)<div>
<br><div>
<span style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style=3D"border-collapse: =
separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: =
normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; =
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap: break-word;">
Matt Stevens</div><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word;"><a =
href=3D"http://www.fierceandthedead.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.fierceandthedead.com</a><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.mattstevensguitar.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.mattstevensguitar.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.spencerparkmusic.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.spencerparkmusic.com</a><br><a =
href=3D"mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com" =
target=3D"_blank">mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com</a></div></span></span>=

</div>
<br><div><div>On 16 May 2011, at 17:44, jason finnern =
wrote:</div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span style=3D"border-collapse: =
separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: =
normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-family: 'times new roman','new =
york',times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style=3D"margin: 0px;">Cool =
stuff<br></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-family: 'times new =
roman','new york',times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">
<br><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-family: 'times new roman','new =
york',times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><hr =
size=3D"1"><b><span style=3D"font-weight: =
bold;">From:</span></b><span>&nbsp;</span>Matt Stevens &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com" =
target=3D"_blank">mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight: =
bold;">To:</span></b><span>&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" =
target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br><b><span =
style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b><span>&nbsp;</span>Mon, May =
16, 2011 5:51:29 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight: =
bold;">Subject:</span></b><span>&nbsp;</span>Looping in a band =
context/new album spam :)<br></font><br>Hi guys<div style=3D"margin: =
0px;"><br></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;">Just wanted to play this, =
its my band project - lots of ambient DL4 loops:</div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><br></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><a =
href=3D"http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/album/if-it-carries-on-lik=
e-this-we-are-moving-to-morecambe" =
target=3D"_blank">http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/album/if-it-carr=
ies-on-like-this-we-are-moving-to-morecambe</a></div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><br></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><a =
href=3D"http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/album/if-it-carries-on-lik=
e-this-we-are-moving-to-morecambe" rel=3D"nofollow" =
target=3D"_blank"></a>this track is all DL4 loops:</div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><br></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><a =
href=3D"http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/track/hotel-no-6" =
target=3D"_blank">http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/track/hotel-no-6=
</a></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;">
<br></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><a =
href=3D"http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/track/hotel-no-6" =
rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"></a>What i really wanted to try was =
them in context of a very loud improvising rock band.&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><br></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;">Let me =
know what u think.... (its all pay what you want). I also did some =
standard looping, just for a few bars here and there, otherwise its hard =
to keep it in time :)</div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><br></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0px;"><br></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;">Thanks</div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0px;"><br></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0px;"><br></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><br><div style=3D"margin: =
0px;">
<div style=3D"margin: 0px; word-wrap: break-word;">Matt =
Stevens</div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; word-wrap: break-word;"><a =
href=3D"http://www.fierceandthedead.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.fierceandthedead.com</a><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.mattstevensguitar.com/" =
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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote:
> Really though, and I think Rick would agree, this is
> all "crisis management". If you're having to re-sync
> then it's going to sound bad...a better strategy is preferable. 
Errrr, with complete respect,  I don't entirely agree with you, Andy,  
merely from a lot of personal experience
playing in non-synced situations that involve loops.

Most times when using loops in an ensemble (either of other 
non-synchronized loopers
or musicians who are playing with the loops)  the big problem is lack of 
monitoring.

Consequently,  an ensemble may drift a little bit and a retriggering of 
one's loop to
start again is not only necessary but can subtly make the ensemble 
listen harder.

I've also used this technique the most when playing concerts with my 
brother after
our Lexicon Jamman phase and pre-LP-1  or when syncing failed for 
whatever reason.

One thing I've found if I suddenly am not getting midi sync is to record 
my loop against
Bill's loop,  playing to it's timing as carefully as possible but also 
making my own loop
last for as many bars as possible (given the limited time of the DL-4, 
this might only be 2-4 bars).

In this way,  my loop will only start to drift after several repetitions so
my little trick of One Shot/Stop/Play is very effective.

Bill and I have played several big concerts where the loopers in the 
audience thought we were synchronized
when we weren't.

Syncing is the best, of course,   but the keys to re-syncing with a 
non-looping ensemble
are
1)  making sure they can hear the loop very clearly
(and something I can recommend as an inexpensive solution for giving 
monitoring to your accompaniest's
is to split your signal:  send one to the board and the other to one of 
those wonderful and inexpensive 5 watt Vox
guitar amps,  placing that little speaker right up close to whoever 
needs the monitoring.  They can then control
their own volume)........ and

2)  having a very good sense of timing when one retriggers

This can be a very musical tool I've found.

My one last caution is to looping guitarists trying to get other 
instrumentalists to sync, acoustically, with their loops and that is:

If you overdub in the same register on your instruments,  the masking 
that occurs can make
it very, very difficult for an accompanist to hear the rhythmic ostinato 
of your original loop.

trying splitting your various overdubs to different registers of the 
instrument or even have very different effects on
each overdub so the ear can clearly hear what the original 'groove' is.

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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote:
> I thought the DL4 let you get round that limitation by hitting 
> Ply/Stop during the One Shot playback.
> ..or it re-triggers continuous when you do that.
> Rick?Matt?Bill?anyone? 

I don't have one in front of me, but as I recall,  if you hit One Shot 
playback and then hit Play/Stop,  the loop stops,
which won't help for a one button retrigger.    It necessitates hitting 
Play/Stop a second time.

Saliently, to fix this problem,  the LP-2 Mini Looper will have
ReTrigger Continuous (as well as Retrigger/One Shot  and Retrigger/Random)

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Hey Per... for the record, I do exactly that.  Sometimes glitches will occu=
r
during that time, sometimes not,  but it seems then to happen reliably in
performance. I had one person suggest recently that the problem might be
power, as one thing which is happening during performance is the addition t=
o
lights,  though you can be sure my power isn't on a dimmer!  lol.

Well, I don't think it's that.  Still working on it.

T.



On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> > i've recently had four shows disturbed by audio glitches, and I can't
> seem
> > to fix it whatsoever.
>
>
> Try to "rehearse your show". I mean, just play for as long time as the
> show is planned and make sure your rig doesn't mess up.
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> www.looproom.com internet music hub
>
>


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Hey Per... for the record, I do exactly that. =A0Sometimes glitches will oc=
cur during that time, sometimes not, =A0but it seems then to happen reliabl=
y in performance. I had one person suggest recently that the problem might =
be power, as one thing which is happening during performance is the additio=
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ol.=A0<div>

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<br>
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Are you sure you're not running the system at too high CPU load? If
that isn't the cause there are the two classic troubleshooting
methods:

1) Start the application and rebuild the system from scratch.
2) Take away plugins one after the other until the absence of the
issue hints at the weak spot.

A bit inconvenient though when the glitch manifests so rarely.

I had a glitch in a previous setup, but that was a choice I had made
to save CPU cycles. I was running Mobius AU on the main stereo output
and monitoring through the looper. But today I put the looper on a
parallel bus/aux, do not monitor through the looper and keep a global
signal path from my live audio input going directly to the audio
output. That's also good for minizing latency, but with my previous
laptop such a "noise free" routing would bog down the CPU into the
audio drop-out risk zone.

Per



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ll occur
> during that time, sometimes not, =C2=A0but it seems then to happen reliab=
ly in
> performance. I had one person suggest recently that the problem might be
> power, as one thing which is happening during performance is the addition=
 to
> lights, =C2=A0though you can be sure my power isn't on a dimmer! =C2=A0lo=
l.
> Well, I don't think it's that. =C2=A0Still working on it.
> T.
>
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > i've recently had four shows disturbed by audio glitches, and I can't
>> > seem
>> > to fix it whatsoever.
>>
>>
>> Try to "rehearse your show". I mean, just play for as long time as the
>> show is planned and make sure your rig doesn't mess up.

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>  I had one person suggest recently that the problem might be power,

IMO, not very likely.  The laptop has a DC power supply.  This thing =
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current is wobbling.

A better bet is that you have memory management challenges.   Background =
processes are likely kicking in and consuming memory that you need to =
run stably.  This is why I suggested disabling internet connectivity for =
your performances. =20

How much ram on your Mac Book Pro?

Daniel

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> Hey Per... for the record, I do exactly that.  Sometimes glitches will =
occur during that time, sometimes not,  but it seems then to happen =
reliably in performance. I had one person suggest recently that the =
problem might be power, as one thing which is happening during =
performance is the addition to lights,  though you can be sure my power =
isn't on a dimmer!  lol.=20
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> Well, I don't think it's that.  Still working on it.=20
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> T.
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can't seem
> > to fix it whatsoever.
>=20
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> Try to "rehearse your show". I mean, just play for as long time as the
> show is planned and make sure your rig doesn't mess up.
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> Greetings from Sweden
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"><div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite">&nbsp;I had one person suggest =
recently that the problem might be =
power,</blockquote><br></div><div>IMO, not very likely. &nbsp;The laptop =
has a DC power supply. &nbsp;This thing should spit out the right =
voltage / amperage even if the incoming current is =
wobbling.</div><div><br></div><div>A better bet is that you have memory =
management challenges. &nbsp; Background processes are likely kicking in =
and consuming memory that you need to run stably. &nbsp;This is why I =
suggested disabling internet connectivity for your performances. =
&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>How much ram on your Mac Book =
Pro?</div><div><br></div><div>Daniel</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite">Hey Per... =
for the record, I do exactly that. &nbsp;Sometimes glitches will occur =
during that time, sometimes not, &nbsp;but it seems then to happen =
reliably in performance. I had one person suggest recently that the =
problem might be power, as one thing which is happening during =
performance is the addition to lights, &nbsp;though you can be sure my =
power isn't on a dimmer! &nbsp;lol.&nbsp;<div>

<br></div><div>Well, I don't think it's that. &nbsp;Still working on =
it.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>T.</div><div><br></div><div><br><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Per Boysen =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class=3D"im">&gt; =
i've recently had four shows disturbed by audio glitches, and I can't =
seem<br>
&gt; to fix it whatsoever.<br>
<br>
<br>
</div>Try to "rehearse your show". I mean, just play for as long time as =
the<br>
show is planned and make sure your rig doesn't mess up.<br>
<br>
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target=3D"_blank">www.perboysen.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.looproom.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">www.looproom.com</a> internet music hub<br>
<br>
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=95 May 24th at The Guggenheim Museum, May 25th at The Stone, =
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8 gigs.=20

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On May 17, 2011, at 9:15 AM, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com> wrote:

>>  I had one person suggest recently that the problem might be power,
>=20
> IMO, not very likely.  The laptop has a DC power supply.  This thing shoul=
d spit out the right voltage / amperage even if the incoming current is wobb=
ling.
>=20
> A better bet is that you have memory management challenges.   Background p=
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rmances. =20
>=20
> How much ram on your Mac Book Pro?
>=20
> Daniel
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>     =20
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>> Hey Per... for the record, I do exactly that.  Sometimes glitches will oc=
cur during that time, sometimes not,  but it seems then to happen reliably i=
n performance. I had one person suggest recently that the problem might be p=
ower, as one thing which is happening during performance is the addition to l=
ights,  though you can be sure my power isn't on a dimmer!  lol.=20
>>=20
>> Well, I don't think it's that.  Still working on it.=20
>>=20
>> T.
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:=

>> > i've recently had four shows disturbed by audio glitches, and I can't s=
eem
>> > to fix it whatsoever.
>>=20
>>=20
>> Try to "rehearse your show". I mean, just play for as long time as the
>> show is planned and make sure your rig doesn't mess up.
>>=20
>> Greetings from Sweden
>>=20
>> Per Boysen
>> www.boysen.se
>> www.perboysen.com
>> www.looproom.com internet music hub
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> --=20
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>> http://toddreynolds.com
>> http://twitter.com/digifiddler
>> http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic
>> http://blog.toddreynolds.com
>> http://facebook.com/toddreynolds
>> http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds
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<html><body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><div>8 gigs.&nbsp;<br><br>Sent from my iPhon=
e</div><div><br>On May 17, 2011, at 9:15 AM, Daniel Thomas &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:danielthomas4@mac.com">danielthomas4@mac.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></di=
v><div></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div><div><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te">&nbsp;I had one person suggest recently that the problem might be power,=
</blockquote><br></div><div>IMO, not very likely. &nbsp;The laptop has a DC p=
ower supply. &nbsp;This thing should spit out the right voltage / amperage e=
ven if the incoming current is wobbling.</div><div><br></div><div>A better b=
et is that you have memory management challenges. &nbsp; Background processe=
s are likely kicking in and consuming memory that you need to run stably. &n=
bsp;This is why I suggested disabling internet connectivity for your perform=
ances. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>How much ram on your Mac Book Pro?</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Daniel</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<=
/div><div><br></div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=
=3D"cite">Hey Per... for the record, I do exactly that. &nbsp;Sometimes glit=
ches will occur during that time, sometimes not, &nbsp;but it seems then to h=
appen reliably in performance. I had one person suggest recently that the pr=
oblem might be power, as one thing which is happening during performance is t=
he addition to lights, &nbsp;though you can be sure my power isn't on a dimm=
er! &nbsp;lol.&nbsp;<div>

<br></div><div>Well, I don't think it's that. &nbsp;Still working on it.&nbs=
p;</div><div><br></div><div>T.</div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Per Boysen <span dir=3D"ltr"=
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px=
 #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class=3D"im">&gt; i've recently had four=
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&gt; to fix it whatsoever.<br>
<br>
<br>
</div>Try to "rehearse your show". I mean, just play for as long time as the=
<br>
show is planned and make sure your rig doesn't mess up.<br>
<br>
Greetings from Sweden<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Per Boysen<br>
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ysen.se">www.boysen.se</a></a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com/" target=3D"_blank"><a href=3D"http://ww=
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<a href=3D"http://www.looproom.com/" target=3D"_blank"><a href=3D"http://www=
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<br>
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Rick Walker wrote:
> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote:
>> Really though, and I think Rick would agree, this is
>> all "crisis management". If you're having to re-sync
>> then it's going to sound bad...a better strategy is preferable. 
> Errrr, with complete respect,  I don't entirely agree with you, Andy,  
> merely from a lot of personal experience
> playing in non-synced situations that involve loops.
> 

I agree with you totally Rick,
I wasn't thinking about syncing loop to loop.
I've seen you do it...with the retrig being hit
*before* the timing errors get noticeable.

The thread was originally about staying in sync
with a non-looping ensemble, a context where re-triggering
is a last resort.

andy



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I use the "loop once" button at the start of every bar to keep it in =
time - only work for a while thou....depends on the tempo fluctuation=20


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On 17 May 2011, at 14:33, andy butler wrote:

>=20
>=20
> Rick Walker wrote:
>> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote:
>>> Really though, and I think Rick would agree, this is
>>> all "crisis management". If you're having to re-sync
>>> then it's going to sound bad...a better strategy is preferable.=20
>> Errrr, with complete respect,  I don't entirely agree with you, Andy, =
 merely from a lot of personal experience
>> playing in non-synced situations that involve loops.
>=20
> I agree with you totally Rick,
> I wasn't thinking about syncing loop to loop.
> I've seen you do it...with the retrig being hit
> *before* the timing errors get noticeable.
>=20
> The thread was originally about staying in sync
> with a non-looping ensemble, a context where re-triggering
> is a last resort.
>=20
> andy
>=20
>=20
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Rick

Nice thread. Live loop syncing of a band is why I got into this mess in the f=
irst place, would be so cool to have four piece band of multiinstrumentalist=
s all synced up, but anyway, one of the reasons I was lobbying for a bit mor=
e flexibility in LP1 output routing is related to that, would be cool to be a=
ble to easily route a click on one loop to Aux A left for example and send t=
hat to a cue to the drummer  or little monitor on stage.

Andy o



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Wow!

On May 16, 2011, at 6:56 PM, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) wrote:

> Quite amazing.
>
> http://joshuafrankel.net/projectPages/POTC.html
>
>
> --  
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>
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Heat my also be an issue if you're running an intricate light rig
(assuming they're pointed at you).  My one complaint about the MBP is
that it can run quite hot depending on use and computers tend to screw
up when hot.
Sylvain


On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Todd Reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:
> 8 gigs.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> On May 17, 2011, at 9:15 AM, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com> wrote:
>
> =A0I had one person suggest recently that the problem might be power,
>
> IMO, not very likely. =A0The laptop has a DC power supply. =A0This thing =
should
> spit out the right voltage / amperage even if the incoming current is
> wobbling.
> A better bet is that you have memory management challenges. =A0 Backgroun=
d
> processes are likely kicking in and consuming memory that you need to run
> stably. =A0This is why I suggested disabling internet connectivity for yo=
ur
> performances.
> How much ram on your Mac Book Pro?
> Daniel
>
>
> Hey Per... for the record, I do exactly that. =A0Sometimes glitches will =
occur
> during that time, sometimes not, =A0but it seems then to happen reliably =
in
> performance. I had one person suggest recently that the problem might be
> power, as one thing which is happening during performance is the addition=
 to
> lights, =A0though you can be sure my power isn't on a dimmer! =A0lol.
> Well, I don't think it's that. =A0Still working on it.
> T.
>
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > i've recently had four shows disturbed by audio glitches, and I can't
>> > seem
>> > to fix it whatsoever.
>>
>>
>> Try to "rehearse your show". I mean, just play for as long time as the
>> show is planned and make sure your rig doesn't mess up.
>>
>> Greetings from Sweden
>>
>> Per Boysen
>> www.boysen.se
>> www.perboysen.com
>> www.looproom.com internet music hub
>>
>
>
>
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Funky indeed!!!!  hey Andre' haven't heard from you in a while,  how  
is your funky bad bajan self??????
Bill

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I love the Dr Who silo. =20

Richard Sales
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On May 17, 2011, at 7:29 AM, tEd =C2=AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wro=
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> Wow!
>=20
> On May 16, 2011, at 6:56 PM, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) wrote:
>=20
>> Quite amazing.
>>=20
>> http://joshuafrankel.net/projectPages/POTC.html
>>=20
>>=20
>> -- "My destination is always the same, but I work out a different route t=
o get there"  -- Henri Matisse
>>=20
>> My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06=
/collections/72157603627170351/
>>=20
>> My videos can be viewed at
>> http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld
>>=20
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>> Video Producer and Digital Photographer    Image Processing Specialist
>> Video for your HEAD!            Boris FX
>> http://www.foryourhead.com        http://www.borisfx.com
>=20

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excellent!

d
On May 17, 2011, at 7:29 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote:

> Wow!
>=20
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>>=20
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>> http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld
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>> Video Producer and Digital Photographer	Image Processing =
Specialist
>> Video for your HEAD!			Boris FX
>> http://www.foryourhead.com		http://www.borisfx.com
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Matt Stevens wrote:
> I use the "loop once" button at the start of every bar to keep it in time -
> only work for a while thou....depends on the tempo fluctuation 
> 


Another thing to do is to reverse the loop.
Then there's no definite start to the notes
so it doesn't wreck the feel of the music when the loop
drifts.



andy

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Hey loopers !
hope you're fine.
here's a new video, guitar and flute looping improvisation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVrxo84Xm0c
hope you'll like it...
boost

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Hey Bill,

I'm good.
I've made some changes in my life this year so that I can get back to
creating more music.
Yeah!!!!

I'm working on 2 projects at the moment, another Island Funk CD and a Pop
vocal thing. Having a great time with both.
I'm also doing this online mixing course which is already helping me with
my mixes.
Basically you have to do a mix once a week, and then it gets critiqued and
you watch some videos about how it was done. I highly recommend this for
anyone who can do a basic mix already, but is not that satisfied with the
outcome.

How about you.
Good to see you are putting out your videos.

Once I finish these 2 projects I'm hoping to do another that involves
collaborations with other artist on the net.

Love to have you on board if you are interested.

Keeping it FUNky,

Andre

On Tue, May 17, 2011 10:51 am, William Walker wrote:
> Funky indeed!!!!  hey Andre' haven't heard from you in a while,  how
> is your funky bad bajan self??????
> Bill
>
>


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Hello, OT as this is, since David Coffin was once a member here I
thought I would ask if anyone has any of his patches for the VG8EX
they could send me?

Thanks,

Kevin

--=20
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good call - tried a few backwards bits - the out of time ambient beds =
made with volume pedals seem to work well.=20

Matt Stevens
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On 17 May 2011, at 17:03, andy butler wrote:

> Matt Stevens wrote:
>> I use the "loop once" button at the start of every bar to keep it in =
time -
>> only work for a while thou....depends on the tempo fluctuation=20
>=20
>=20
> Another thing to do is to reverse the loop.
> Then there's no definite start to the notes
> so it doesn't wreck the feel of the music when the loop
> drifts.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> andy
>=20

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Quite amazing.=C2=A0
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Well obviously I'm in today, No one
has gotten my ALERT.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Thanks for the good Loop site info.
</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Since the office has taken away my access
to 'You tube' I cant see anything any more.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">so it's all theoretical.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">My first looper was<b> 2</b> seconds
long on a Roland Digital rack unit I bought in the early 90's.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Then I got my Line <b>6</b> rack Delay
w <b>2</b> minutes. &nbsp;</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Working in the Telecom Dept at Farmers,
</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I <u>was</u> the &quot;music on hold&quot;
for a while here at Farmers with a spacey piece I built around a </font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">baserun I lifted from John Abercrombie,
( Timeless ). &nbsp;It was calming and served it's purpose.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">My problem is I could never get my Behringer
FCB 1010 controller &nbsp;</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">to work with the line 6 delay unit correctly.
&nbsp;All it would do is change the presets. </font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">But for the looper is all under one
preset. &nbsp; </font>
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selector dial and roll on to patch number 1. </font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">and that's the end of that . </font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">It's all fun.</font>
<br>
<br>
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Farmers Zurich Telecom &amp; Video Operations<br>
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a genuine interweb legend - wow

Matt Stevens
http://www.fierceandthedead.com
http://www.mattstevensguitar.com
http://www.spencerparkmusic.com
mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com

On 17 May 2011, at 21:57, peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com wrote:

>=20
> Well obviously I'm in today, No one has gotten my ALERT.=20
> Thanks for the good Loop site info.=20
> Since the office has taken away my access to 'You tube' I cant see =
anything any more.=20
> so it's all theoretical.=20
> My first looper was 2 seconds long on a Roland Digital rack unit I =
bought in the early 90's.=20
> Then I got my Line 6 rack Delay w 2 minutes.  =20
> Working in the Telecom Dept at Farmers,=20
> I was the "music on hold" for a while here at Farmers with a spacey =
piece I built around a=20
> baserun I lifted from John Abercrombie, ( Timeless ).  It was calming =
and served it's purpose.=20
> My problem is I could never get my Behringer FCB 1010 controller  =20
> to work with the line 6 delay unit correctly.  All it would do is =
change the presets.=20
> But for the looper is all under one preset.  =20
> So I resolve to use my big toe to change the 'Record' &'Stop' buttons =
on the fly.=20
> Some times Mr. Toe will nudge the patch selector dial and roll on to =
patch number 1.=20
> and that's the end of that .=20
> It's all fun.=20
>=20
>=20
> Peter A. Leinhos
> Farmers Zurich Telecom & Video Operations
> Group IT Operations
> 4680 Wilshire Blvd
> Los Angeles, Ca 90010
> USA
>=20
> Desk 323 964 8807
> Cell    213 944 4064
>=20
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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
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-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Matt Stevens</div><div =
style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
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a><br>http://www.mattstevensguitar.com<br>http://www.spencerparkmusic.com<=
br>mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com</div></span></span>
</div>
<br><div><div>On 17 May 2011, at 21:57, <a =
href=3D"mailto:peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com">peter.leinhos@farmersin=
surance.com</a> wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite">
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Well obviously I'm in today, No =
one
has gotten my ALERT.</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Thanks for the good Loop site =
info.
</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Since the office has taken away =
my access
to 'You tube' I cant see anything any more.</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">so it's all theoretical.</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">My first looper was<b> 2</b> =
seconds
long on a Roland Digital rack unit I bought in the early 90's.</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Then I got my Line <b>6</b> =
rack Delay
w <b>2</b> minutes. &nbsp;</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Working in the Telecom Dept at =
Farmers,
</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I <u>was</u> the "music on =
hold"
for a while here at Farmers with a spacey piece I built around a </font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">baserun I lifted from John =
Abercrombie,
( Timeless ). &nbsp;It was calming and served it's purpose.</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">My problem is I could never get =
my Behringer
FCB 1010 controller &nbsp;</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">to work with the line 6 delay =
unit correctly.
&nbsp;All it would do is change the presets. </font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">But for the looper is all under =
one
preset. &nbsp; </font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">So I resolve to use my big toe =
to change
the 'Record' &amp;'Stop' buttons on the fly. </font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Some times Mr. Toe will nudge =
the patch
selector dial and roll on to patch number 1. </font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">and that's the end of that . =
</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">It's all fun.</font>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Peter A. Leinhos<br>
Farmers Zurich Telecom &amp; Video Operations<br>
Group IT Operations<br>
4680 Wilshire Blvd<br>
Los Angeles, Ca 90010<br>
USA<br>
<br>
Desk 323 964 8807<br>
Cell &nbsp; &nbsp;213 944 4064<br>
<br>
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I'm scared. (and cold). Send help...!

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Matt Stevens <
mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:

> a genuine interweb legend - wow
>
> Matt Stevens
> http://www.fierceandthedead.com
> http://www.mattstevensguitar.com
> http://www.spencerparkmusic.com
> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com
>
> On 17 May 2011, at 21:57, peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com wrote:
>
>
> Well obviously I'm in today, No one has gotten my ALERT.
> Thanks for the good Loop site info.
> Since the office has taken away my access to 'You tube' I cant see anything
> any more.
> so it's all theoretical.
> My first looper was* 2* seconds long on a Roland Digital rack unit I
> bought in the early 90's.
> Then I got my Line *6* rack Delay w *2* minutes.
> Working in the Telecom Dept at Farmers,
> I *was* the "music on hold" for a while here at Farmers with a spacey
> piece I built around a
> baserun I lifted from John Abercrombie, ( Timeless ).  It was calming and
> served it's purpose.
> My problem is I could never get my Behringer FCB 1010 controller
> to work with the line 6 delay unit correctly.  All it would do is change
> the presets.
> But for the looper is all under one preset.
> So I resolve to use my big toe to change the 'Record' &'Stop' buttons on
> the fly.
> Some times Mr. Toe will nudge the patch selector dial and roll on to patch
> number 1.
> and that's the end of that .
> It's all fun.
>
>
> Peter A. Leinhos
> Farmers Zurich Telecom & Video Operations
> Group IT Operations
> 4680 Wilshire Blvd
> Los Angeles, Ca 90010
> USA
>
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mersinsurance.com" target=3D"_blank">peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com</a>=
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<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Well obviously I&#39;m in today, N=
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<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Thanks for the good Loop site info=
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</font>
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>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">My first looper was<b> 2</b> secon=
ds
long on a Roland Digital rack unit I bought in the early 90&#39;s.</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Then I got my Line <b>6</b> rack D=
elay
w <b>2</b> minutes. =A0</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Working in the Telecom Dept at Far=
mers,
</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I <u>was</u> the &quot;music on ho=
ld&quot;
for a while here at Farmers with a spacey piece I built around a </font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">baserun I lifted from John Abercro=
mbie,
( Timeless ). =A0It was calming and served it&#39;s purpose.</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">My problem is I could never get my=
 Behringer
FCB 1010 controller =A0</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">to work with the line 6 delay unit=
 correctly.
=A0All it would do is change the presets. </font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">But for the looper is all under on=
e
preset. =A0 </font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">So I resolve to use my big toe to =
change
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<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Some times Mr. Toe will nudge the =
patch
selector dial and roll on to patch number 1. </font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">and that&#39;s the end of that . <=
/font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">It&#39;s all fun.</font>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Peter A. Leinhos<br>
Farmers Zurich Telecom &amp; Video Operations<br>
Group IT Operations<br>
4680 Wilshire Blvd<br>
Los Angeles, Ca 90010<br>
USA<br>
<br>
Desk <a href=3D"tel:323%20964%208807" value=3D"+13239648807" target=3D"_bla=
nk">323 964 8807</a><br>
Cell =A0 =A0<a href=3D"tel:213%20944%204064" value=3D"+12139444064" target=
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Holy moses!  He is real!  I was beginning to think that it was just Rick Walker messing with our heads...

Peter, did you know we are having t-shirts made that say:

Peter Leinhos is Out of the Office.

If I had a nickel for every time I got one of these messages, I would use it buy you all an LP-1.  (Now wouldn't that unjam the production line, Bob?) 

Daniel   

  
On May 17, 2011, at 1:57 PM, peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com wrote:

> 
> Well obviously I'm in today, No one has gotten my ALERT. 
> Thanks for the good Loop site info. 
> Since the office has taken away my access to 'You tube' I cant see anything any more. 
> so it's all theoretical. 
> My first looper was 2 seconds long on a Roland Digital rack unit I bought in the early 90's. 
> Then I got my Line 6 rack Delay w 2 minutes.   
> Working in the Telecom Dept at Farmers, 
> I was the "music on hold" for a while here at Farmers with a spacey piece I built around a 
> baserun I lifted from John Abercrombie, ( Timeless ).  It was calming and served it's purpose. 
> My problem is I could never get my Behringer FCB 1010 controller   
> to work with the line 6 delay unit correctly.  All it would do is change the presets. 
> But for the looper is all under one preset.   
> So I resolve to use my big toe to change the 'Record' &'Stop' buttons on the fly. 
> Some times Mr. Toe will nudge the patch selector dial and roll on to patch number 1. 
> and that's the end of that . 
> It's all fun. 
> 
> 
> Peter A. Leinhos
> Farmers Zurich Telecom & Video Operations
> Group IT Operations
> 4680 Wilshire Blvd
> Los Angeles, Ca 90010
> USA
> 
> Desk 323 964 8807
> Cell    213 944 4064
> 
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<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Holy moses! &nbsp;He is real! &nbsp;I was beginning to think that it was just Rick Walker messing with our heads...<div><div><br></div><div>Peter, did you know we are having t-shirts made that say:</div><div><br></div><div>Peter Leinhos is Out of the Office.</div><div><br></div><div>If I had a nickel for every time I got one of these messages, I would use it buy you all an LP-1. &nbsp;(Now wouldn't that unjam the production line, Bob?)&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Daniel &nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br><div><div><div>On May 17, 2011, at 1:57 PM, <a href="mailto:peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com">peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
<br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">Well obviously I'm in today, No one
has gotten my ALERT.</font>
<br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">Thanks for the good Loop site info.
</font>
<br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">Since the office has taken away my access
to 'You tube' I cant see anything any more.</font>
<br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">so it's all theoretical.</font>
<br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">My first looper was<b> 2</b> seconds
long on a Roland Digital rack unit I bought in the early 90's.</font>
<br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">Then I got my Line <b>6</b> rack Delay
w <b>2</b> minutes. &nbsp;</font>
<br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">Working in the Telecom Dept at Farmers,
</font>
<br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">I <u>was</u> the "music on hold"
for a while here at Farmers with a spacey piece I built around a </font>
<br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">baserun I lifted from John Abercrombie,
( Timeless ). &nbsp;It was calming and served it's purpose.</font>
<br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">My problem is I could never get my Behringer
FCB 1010 controller &nbsp;</font>
<br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">to work with the line 6 delay unit correctly.
&nbsp;All it would do is change the presets. </font>
<br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">But for the looper is all under one
preset. &nbsp; </font>
<br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">So I resolve to use my big toe to change
the 'Record' &amp;'Stop' buttons on the fly. </font>
<br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">Some times Mr. Toe will nudge the patch
selector dial and roll on to patch number 1. </font>
<br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">and that's the end of that . </font>
<br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">It's all fun.</font>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">Peter A. Leinhos<br>
Farmers Zurich Telecom &amp; Video Operations<br>
Group IT Operations<br>
4680 Wilshire Blvd<br>
Los Angeles, Ca 90010<br>
USA<br>
<br>
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com 
  To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:57 PM
  Subject: Re Peter Leinhos is out of the office.



  Well obviously I'm in today, No one has gotten my ALERT. 
  Thanks for the good Loop site info. 
  Since the office has taken away my access to 'You tube' I cant see anything any more. 
  so it's all theoretical. 
  My first looper was 2 seconds long on a Roland Digital rack unit I bought in the early 90's. 
  Then I got my Line 6 rack Delay w 2 minutes.   
  Working in the Telecom Dept at Farmers, 
  I was the "music on hold" for a while here at Farmers with a spacey piece I built around a 
  baserun I lifted from John Abercrombie, ( Timeless ).  It was calming and served it's purpose. 
  My problem is I could never get my Behringer FCB 1010 controller   
  to work with the line 6 delay unit correctly.  All it would do is change the presets. 
  But for the looper is all under one preset.   
  So I resolve to use my big toe to change the 'Record' &'Stop' buttons on the fly. 
  Some times Mr. Toe will nudge the patch selector dial and roll on to patch number 1. 
  and that's the end of that . 
  It's all fun. 


  Peter A. Leinhos
  Farmers Zurich Telecom & Video Operations
  Group IT Operations
  4680 Wilshire Blvd
  Los Angeles, Ca 90010
  USA

  Desk 323 964 8807
  Cell    213 944 4064

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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Whoa, the dude exists.&nbsp; The dude 
abides.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
  style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com 
  href="mailto:peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com">peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com</A> 
  </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
  title=Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com 
  href="mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</A> 
  </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:57 PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re Peter Leinhos is out of the 
  office.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV><BR><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif>Well obviously I'm in today, 
  No one has gotten my ALERT.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif>Thanks for 
  the good Loop site info. </FONT><BR><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif>Since the 
  office has taken away my access to 'You tube' I cant see anything any 
  more.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif>so it's all theoretical.</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif>My first looper was<B> 2</B> seconds long on 
  a Roland Digital rack unit I bought in the early 90's.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2 
  face=sans-serif>Then I got my Line <B>6</B> rack Delay w <B>2</B> minutes. 
  &nbsp;</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif>Working in the Telecom Dept at 
  Farmers, </FONT><BR><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif>I <U>was</U> the "music on 
  hold" for a while here at Farmers with a spacey piece I built around a 
  </FONT><BR><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif>baserun I lifted from John 
  Abercrombie, ( Timeless ). &nbsp;It was calming and served it's 
  purpose.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif>My problem is I could never 
  get my Behringer FCB 1010 controller &nbsp;</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2 
  face=sans-serif>to work with the line 6 delay unit correctly. &nbsp;All it 
  would do is change the presets. </FONT><BR><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif>But 
  for the looper is all under one preset. &nbsp; </FONT><BR><FONT size=2 
  face=sans-serif>So I resolve to use my big toe to change the 'Record' 
  &amp;'Stop' buttons on the fly. </FONT><BR><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif>Some 
  times Mr. Toe will nudge the patch selector dial and roll on to patch number 
  1. </FONT><BR><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif>and that's the end of that . 
  </FONT><BR><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif>It's all fun.</FONT> <BR><BR><BR><FONT 
  size=2 face=sans-serif>Peter A. Leinhos<BR>Farmers Zurich Telecom &amp; Video 
  Operations<BR>Group IT Operations<BR>4680 Wilshire Blvd<BR>Los Angeles, Ca 
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I want a "Peter Leinhos is in the office" T-Shirt

Matt Stevens
http://www.fierceandthedead.com
http://www.mattstevensguitar.com
http://www.spencerparkmusic.com
mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com

On 17 May 2011, at 22:12, Toby G wrote:

> Whoa, the dude exists.  The dude abides.
> =20
> =20
> t
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:57 PM
> Subject: Re Peter Leinhos is out of the office.
>=20
>=20
> Well obviously I'm in today, No one has gotten my ALERT.=20
> Thanks for the good Loop site info.=20
> Since the office has taken away my access to 'You tube' I cant see =
anything any more.=20
> so it's all theoretical.=20
> My first looper was 2 seconds long on a Roland Digital rack unit I =
bought in the early 90's.=20
> Then I got my Line 6 rack Delay w 2 minutes.  =20
> Working in the Telecom Dept at Farmers,=20
> I was the "music on hold" for a while here at Farmers with a spacey =
piece I built around a=20
> baserun I lifted from John Abercrombie, ( Timeless ).  It was calming =
and served it's purpose.=20
> My problem is I could never get my Behringer FCB 1010 controller  =20
> to work with the line 6 delay unit correctly.  All it would do is =
change the presets.=20
> But for the looper is all under one preset.  =20
> So I resolve to use my big toe to change the 'Record' &'Stop' buttons =
on the fly.=20
> Some times Mr. Toe will nudge the patch selector dial and roll on to =
patch number 1.=20
> and that's the end of that .=20
> It's all fun.=20
>=20
>=20
> Peter A. Leinhos
> Farmers Zurich Telecom & Video Operations
> Group IT Operations
> 4680 Wilshire Blvd
> Los Angeles, Ca 90010
> USA
>=20
> Desk 323 964 8807
> Cell    213 944 4064
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<html><head><base href=3D"x-msg://1853/"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: =
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after-white-space; ">I want a "Peter Leinhos is in the office" =
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<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; =
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href=3D"http://www.fierceandthedead.com">http://www.fierceandthedead.com</=
a><br>http://www.mattstevensguitar.com<br>http://www.spencerparkmusic.com<=
br>mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com</div></span></span>
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<br><div><div>On 17 May 2011, at 22:12, Toby G wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; =
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auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div =
bgcolor=3D"#ffffff"><div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Whoa, the dude =
exists.&nbsp; The dude abides.</font></div><div><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div><div><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div><div><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial">t</font></div><blockquote style=3D"border-left-color: =
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0px; "><div style=3D"font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; =
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normal 10pt/normal arial; background-image: initial; =
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background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial =
initial; "><b>From:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
title=3D"peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com" =
href=3D"mailto:peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com">peter.leinhos@farmersin=
surance.com</a></div><div style=3D"font: normal normal normal =
10pt/normal arial; "><b>To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
title=3D"Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com</a></div><div style=3D"font: normal normal normal =
10pt/normal arial; "><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:57 =
PM</div><div style=3D"font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; =
"><b>Subject:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re =
Peter Leinhos is out of the office.</div><div><br></div><br><font =
size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Well obviously I'm in today, No one has =
gotten my ALERT.</font><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"sans-serif">Thanks for the good Loop site info.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></font><br><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"sans-serif">Since the office has taken away my access to 'You =
tube' I cant see anything any more.</font><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"sans-serif">so it's all theoretical.</font><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"sans-serif">My first looper was<b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>2</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>seconds long on a Roland =
Digital rack unit I bought in the early 90's.</font><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"sans-serif">Then I got my Line<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b>6</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>rack Delay w<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b>2</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>minutes. &nbsp;</font><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"sans-serif">Working in the Telecom Dept at Farmers,<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></font><br><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"sans-serif">I<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><u>was</u><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>the "music on hold" for a =
while here at Farmers with a spacey piece I built around a<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></font><br><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"sans-serif">baserun I lifted from John Abercrombie, ( Timeless =
). &nbsp;It was calming and served it's purpose.</font><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"sans-serif">My problem is I could never get my Behringer FCB =
1010 controller &nbsp;</font><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"sans-serif">to work with the line 6 delay unit correctly. =
&nbsp;All it would do is change the presets.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></font><br><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"sans-serif">But for the looper is all under one preset. =
&nbsp;<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></font><br><font =
size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">So I resolve to use my big toe to change =
the 'Record' &amp;'Stop' buttons on the fly.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></font><br><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"sans-serif">Some times Mr. Toe will nudge the patch selector =
dial and roll on to patch number 1.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></font><br><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"sans-serif">and that's the end of that .<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></font><br><font size=3D"2" =
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wowo does this guy really exists or is this a hoax?
does he realize his importance in being in office to this list?


On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Matt Stevens
<mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:
> I want a "Peter Leinhos is in the office" T-Shirt
> Matt Stevens
> http://www.fierceandthedead.com
> http://www.mattstevensguitar.com
> http://www.spencerparkmusic.com
> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com
> On 17 May 2011, at 22:12, Toby G wrote:
>
> Whoa, the dude exists.=A0 The dude abides.
>
>
> t
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:=A0peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com
> To:=A0Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Sent:=A0Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:57 PM
> Subject:=A0Re Peter Leinhos is out of the office.
>
> Well obviously I'm in today, No one has gotten my ALERT.
> Thanks for the good Loop site info.
> Since the office has taken away my access to 'You tube' I cant see anythi=
ng
> any more.
> so it's all theoretical.
> My first looper was=A02=A0seconds long on a Roland Digital rack unit I bo=
ught in
> the early 90's.
> Then I got my Line=A06=A0rack Delay w=A02=A0minutes.
> Working in the Telecom Dept at Farmers,
> I=A0was=A0the "music on hold" for a while here at Farmers with a spacey p=
iece I
> built around a
> baserun I lifted from John Abercrombie, ( Timeless ). =A0It was calming a=
nd
> served it's purpose.
> My problem is I could never get my Behringer FCB 1010 controller
> to work with the line 6 delay unit correctly. =A0All it would do is chang=
e the
> presets.
> But for the looper is all under one preset.
> So I resolve to use my big toe to change the 'Record' &'Stop' buttons on =
the
> fly.
> Some times Mr. Toe will nudge the patch selector dial and roll on to patc=
h
> number 1.
> and that's the end of that .
> It's all fun.
>
>
> Peter A. Leinhos
> Farmers Zurich Telecom & Video Operations
> Group IT Operations
> 4680 Wilshire Blvd
> Los Angeles, Ca 90010
> USA
>
> Desk 323 964 8807
> Cell =A0 =A0213 944 4064
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anybody has recomendations on quiet switches that would work for the
Digitech Jamman stereo?

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Petri Lahtinen
<kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
> My main point of getting rid of it were the LOUD switches, and I dont have
> Leopard OS on my Mac's.
> If it reads "Windows XP" on the box, then it shoulda work on XP ;-)
> I tested it with Windows 7, in the store that took it back and gave me the
> RC-30, it worked fine on Win7 too.
>
> I just dont want to upgrade all my computers when I'm using one 300 e worth
> piece of machine.
>
> 2011/5/17 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
>>
>> I hear you Petri i was having problems with the software as well on
>> the macbook and then i tried it on the imac and it works quite well,so
>> thats another reason i decided to keep it.
>> cheers
>> Luis
>>
>> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Petri Lahtinen
>> <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > ("vast sea to dive in" was the sentence....)
>> >
>> > 2011/5/15 Petri Lahtinen <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com>
>> >>
>> >> I think many limitations with these hardware loopers can be turned into
>> >> possibilities.
>> >>
>> >> I myself want limitations, the music itself is so vast se to dive in
>> >> :-D
>> >>
>> >> Or maybe I'm just losing my friggin mind...
>> >>
>> >> Louie->The software on Digitech stopped working on my XP-machine, so
>> >> the
>> >> unit became a piece of metal to me. RC-30's memory, you can access it
>> >> as a
>> >> norma USB-memory.
>> >> No software needed. I think Digitech made a huge mistake by closing the
>> >> JamMan Stereo's memory by making it accessible only with their piece of
>> >> ****
>> >> software, that's programmed on Microsoft Silverlight, which is a joke
>> >> in
>> >> itself.
>> >>
>> >> Sorry, a quite a burst of sentiment, but those are MHO's, at this time.
>> >>
>> >> :-D
>> >>
>> >> -Petri-
>> >>
>> >> 2011/5/15 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi Petr,
>> >>> yes i tried it but decided to keep the Digitech for what i do,it would
>> >>> have been nice if those 2 independent tracks could be different in
>> >>> length as if u multiplied so i really didnt see much of an advantage
>> >>> i didnt like that you had to press undo for 2 seconds or to change
>> >>> parts without the switch,for what i do is a bit tedious since im
>> >>> singing as well.
>> >>> But the switches are really nice,i might have the Digis changed for
>> >>> quieter ones!
>> >>> Luis
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Petri Lahtinen
>> >>> <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> > Hi Louie!
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I bought the RC-30 and its really good.
>> >>> > Silent switches, two tracks, the extra footswitch is small and
>> >>> > fitted
>> >>> > my
>> >>> > pedalboard well.
>> >>> > (FS-6) and with it you can do everything with feet. Well, not start
>> >>> > the
>> >>> > rhythms, I mean the unit's own drum machine, that is.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I dont do ABC or any other song forms nowadays, so I dont mind the
>> >>> > undo's 2
>> >>> > sec thing.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I'm really pleased with it, it surely fills my small needs as a
>> >>> > looping
>> >>> > device.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > -Petri-
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > 2011/4/27 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Hi Petri,
>> >>> >> how funny that im doing the same thing!
>> >>> >> You arer absolutely right,that software is anoying,im preparing for
>> >>> >> a
>> >>> >> gig this saturday and it took me almost an hour to get some samples
>> >>> >> transfered to the Digitech from their flimsy software,there is a
>> >>> >> new
>> >>> >> firmware version which i installed prior to working with it,i dont
>> >>> >> know what that is meant for,i started importing wav files and in
>> >>> >> the
>> >>> >> middle of working it crashed bad and lost it all, so i had to
>> >>> >> restart
>> >>> >> again.Prior to that i was rehearsing with it and as i was scrolling
>> >>> >> through the samples the digitech froze and cound not get it to do
>> >>> >> anything so i reboot it and found out i had lost every other sample
>> >>> >> in
>> >>> >> a slot,luckly i had made a jam list backup so i retransfered all
>> >>> >> the
>> >>> >> files.
>> >>> >> what i do like about the digitech is the easy of scrolling through
>> >>> >> the
>> >>> >> samples,but that switch click is so loud that it gets recorded
>> >>> >> everytime i loop anything(i have my mic going into the loops as
>> >>> >> well)
>> >>> >> I dont know why they replaced the old switches,they seem a lot
>> >>> >> quieter, think the Boss-RC30 will be better in that department.
>> >>> >> oh dont waste your time trying to call them or suggest
>> >>> >> improvements,their support is nada!
>> >>> >> Im also getting the RC-30 perhaps today or tomorrow to try out,im
>> >>> >> just
>> >>> >> using this for small pedalboard type of bar gigs and no racks,the
>> >>> >> RC-30 has an essential feature for me like the independent
>> >>> >> tracks,is
>> >>> >> too bad they didnt assign the undo/redo with the footswitch like
>> >>> >> the
>> >>> >> Digitech has,you still have to step on it 2 seconds impractical if
>> >>> >> u
>> >>> >> want ot do A-B arrangments grrr!
>> >>> >> oh well lets see if it beats the Digi
>> >>> >> cheers
>> >>> >> Luis
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Petri Lahtinen
>> >>> >> <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >> > Hi and thanks to everybody for your responses!
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > BUT it seems that RC-50 is not available here in Finland,
>> >>> >> > anymore.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > The Roland headquarters is Denmark that supply gear to Nordic
>> >>> >> > countries
>> >>> >> > had
>> >>> >> > replied to my store, that they dont have any RC-50's there.
>> >>> >> > The chain of stores I use here in Finland, doesnt have not one
>> >>> >> > unit
>> >>> >> > here. So
>> >>> >> > will it become a discontinued product that gets replaced by the
>> >>> >> > new
>> >>> >> > RC-30...
>> >>> >> > who knows...?
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > SO I'm getting the new RC-30 for test drive next week.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Looking at the manual, it seems pretty straightforward unit. Need
>> >>> >> > extra
>> >>> >> > footswitch, which is always annoying.
>> >>> >> > Probably nobody on the list doesnt have one of those, cause its
>> >>> >> > so
>> >>> >> > new
>> >>> >> > unit?
>> >>> >> > Think it was 2011 January when the first units shipped.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > -Petri-
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > 2011/4/26 Victor Eijkhout <victor@eijkhout.net>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> On Apr 25, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote:
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> > Were there RC-50 users on the list?
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Check. Just bought it a month ago so I'm still learning. Fun toy
>> >>> >> >> though.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Victor.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > --
>> >>> >> > Petri Lahtinen
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> --
>> >>> >> www.luis-angulo.com
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > --
>> >>> > Petri Lahtinen
>> >>> >
>> >>> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> www.luis-angulo.com
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Petri Lahtinen
>> >>
>> >> http://www.petrilahtinen.com
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Petri Lahtinen
>> >
>> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> www.luis-angulo.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Petri Lahtinen
>
> http://www.petrilahtinen.com
>
>



-- 
www.luis-angulo.com

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How about "Peter Leinhos is in the office on the front" and "Peter =20
Leinhos is out of the office" on the back?

Paul Haslem
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www.dulcify.ca









Quoting Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>:

> I want a "Peter Leinhos is in the office" T-Shirt
>
> Matt Stevens
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> On 17 May 2011, at 22:12, Toby G wrote:
>
>> Whoa, the dude exists.  The dude abides.
>>
>>
>> t
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:57 PM
>> Subject: Re Peter Leinhos is out of the office.
>>
>>
>> Well obviously I'm in today, No one has gotten my ALERT.
>> Thanks for the good Loop site info.
>> Since the office has taken away my access to 'You tube' I cant see =20
>> anything any more.
>> so it's all theoretical.
>> My first looper was 2 seconds long on a Roland Digital rack unit I =20
>> bought in the early 90's.
>> Then I got my Line 6 rack Delay w 2 minutes.
>> Working in the Telecom Dept at Farmers,
>> I was the "music on hold" for a while here at Farmers with a spacey =20
>> piece I built around a
>> baserun I lifted from John Abercrombie, ( Timeless ).  It was =20
>> calming and served it's purpose.
>> My problem is I could never get my Behringer FCB 1010 controller
>> to work with the line 6 delay unit correctly.  All it would do is =20
>> change the presets.
>> But for the looper is all under one preset.
>> So I resolve to use my big toe to change the 'Record' &'Stop' =20
>> buttons on the fly.
>> Some times Mr. Toe will nudge the patch selector dial and roll on =20
>> to patch number 1.
>> and that's the end of that .
>> It's all fun.
>>
>>
>> Peter A. Leinhos
>> Farmers Zurich Telecom & Video Operations
>> Group IT Operations
>> 4680 Wilshire Blvd
>> Los Angeles, Ca 90010
>> USA
>>
>> Desk 323 964 8807
>> Cell    213 944 4064
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On May 17, 2011, at 6:40 PM, phaslem@wightman.ca wrote:

> How about "Peter Leinhos is in the office on the front" and "Peter  
> Leinhos is out of the office" on the back?

With some sort of looping symbol (A circle with arrows going 'round  
and 'round?) connecting the front to the back.

Mebbe?

Jeff

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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, todd reynolds wrote:
> I had one person suggest recently that the problem might be power, as 
> one thing which is happening during performance is the addition to 
> lights,  though you can be sure my power isn't on a dimmer!  lol. 
Over the years,   Bill and I have both had a lot of problems with 
'brown' electricity.
The Lexicon Jamman was notoriously unreliable when the voltage in house 
got too low.
(that's always one salient advantage to owning battery powered gear)

Voltage can,  of course,  vary quite a bit in different venues (at least 
in the US....what's your take everyone  else?)
.........especially places like restaurants and
coffee shops and museums/galleries  where the building was not designed, 
specifically, for musical performance.

Standard practice is to always be on a different circuit than your 
lighting but many buildings don't have different
circuits for the AC they provide.

You can buy a very expensive power conditioner that keeps voltage at the 
right level but they
are pretty expensive ($500 USD) and they are really heavy.   I've never 
invested, myself, but I've had
a few heartbreaking equipment failures in my time during performances, 
as well.

I wonder if Macbook Pro owners have had any problems with brown 
electricity.    Anyone know?

rick walker

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Hi, all,

I recently posted that the LP-2 has the same exact footprint as the Line 
6 DL-4.

When we were working on it's initial design,  that is what I pushed for 
and made the
assumption that it had occurred from just a cursory look at the unit 
(it's been at my
feet for the last week).

Today,  Bill said he thought it looked bigger, so I got my DL-4 out and 
measured it
and, lo and behold and just for the record:

The LP-2 appears to be 1 1/2" wider than the DL-4 with the same depth.


I was incorrect..........   my sincerest apologies.
rick walker


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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote:
> A better bet is that you have memory management challenges.   
> Background processes are likely kicking in
> and consuming memory that you need to run stably.  This is why I 
> suggested disabling internet connectivity for your performances.
>
> How much ram on your Mac Book Pro?
Daniel,  it is quite simple in Windows to figure out what apps turn on 
automatically at boot up, so you can disable them
if you want to.

Do you know how to do this on the Mac Book Pro?

rick
(who learned, through your post for the first time, that DC doesn't 
fluctuate it's output regardless of incoming voltage,  thanks!!!)

(and who commensurately  surmises that his DeVolt power regulator, 
designed to change the output of analog
footpedals, won't work on DC footpedals.......Hmmmmmm!)

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Yes it can, if it's an unregulated supply.

t
>rick
>(who learned, through your post for the first time, that DC doesn't 
>fluctuate it's output regardless of incoming voltage,  thanks!!!)

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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote:
> I agree with you totally Rick,
> I wasn't thinking about syncing loop to loop.
> I've seen you do it...with the retrig being hit
> *before* the timing errors get noticeable.
>
> The thread was originally about staying in sync
> with a non-looping ensemble, a context where re-triggering
> is a last resort. 
I hear you,  buddy.

Deepest respect to you, always,  not to mention a warm cyber hug,

rick

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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Matt Stevens wrote:
> I use the "loop once" button at the start of every bar to keep it in time - only work for a while thou....depends on the tempo fluctuation
Yeah,  I've done that too.    That, however, is a pain in the ass and 
relegates one to having to multi-task continually when wanting to play 
over one's loop.
I hate doing that which is why I go for the 2-4 bar loop approach.

rick

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Seriously Peter, you only get LD at work? I won't tell anyone :-)
  I bet there are anyone of a number of guys on this list. who could =20
help you out with your behringer/ Line 6 rack looper issue. To start =20
with the behringer will do Midi  PC, CC ,  note messages, and you =20
might try CC or notes rather than PC change messages which are more =20
limited. You can get it to respond like a good ol DL-4, on steroids =20
that way...yummy..... An FCB1010 strait from the factory might have =20
all kinds of conflicting  combinations of PC CC and note messages =20
already on it. It will take some reprogramming of the FCB . and If you =20=

have Skype at home,  You might even get someone to talk you through =20
it, you might even throw a little L$ve their way for doing it.  =20
Timeless by Abercrombie,  an all time favorite. The Dude abides fo =20
sho, try not to be out of the office as much ok???:-)
  Bill
Below are some midi implementation charts taken right off the L6 =20
website for the Echo Pro
=
http://line6.com/data/l/c0a8090bf777404f9fa803ddf/application/pdf/Echo%20P=
ro%20User%20Manual%20-%20English.pdf
At this point, you=92re probably saying to yourself, =93How can I =
possibly =20
play and hit those
buttons at the same time? This is stupid!=94 Well, stupid is as stupid =20=

does, and our
mommas didn=92t raise no dummies. You can also control the Looper with =20=

MIDI Program
Changes, MIDI Continuous Controllers, or MIDI Notes, so that, with =20
pretty much
whatever controller you=92re using, you can use it to start, stop, and =20=

otherwise mess about
with your Echo Pro=92s Looper. There=92s a complete list of what =
controls =20
what in the
Appendix at the back of this manual.

Appendices: MIDI Implementation - Program Change
MIDI Implementation -
Program Change
Program Change
Assignment
000 Enable Bypass
001 Program 1
=85 =85
099 Program 99
100 Ignored
101 Looper Rec/Play/Stop/Play/Stop
102 Looper Rec/Stop/Play/Stop/Play
103 Looper Record Only
104 Looper Overdub Only
105 Looper Stop Only
106 Looper Play/Stop
107 Looper Play Once
108 Looper Half Speed
109 Looper Reverse
110 Ignored
111 Tube Echo
112 Tape Echo
113 Multi-head
114 Sweep Echo
115 Analog Echo
116 Analog w/Mod
117 Lo Res Delay
118 Digital Delay
119 Digital w/Mod
120 Echo Platter
121 Stereo Delays
122 Ping Pong
123 Reverse
124 Dynamic Delay
125 Auto-Volume Echo
126 Loop Sampler (Reset)
127 Ignored
A =95 2
Appendices: MIDI Implementation - Continuous Controller & Note Functions
MIDI Implementation -
Continuous Controller & Note Functions
Cont.
Controller
MIDI Note
Number
Echo Pro Control
Received
Value Range
Transmitted
Value Range
CC# 04 N/A Expression Pedal 0 - 127 0 to 127
CC# 28 62 (D4) Play/Stop 0 - 63=3DStop
64 - 127=3DPlay
No Transmit
CC# 36 67 (G4) Half Speed 0 - 63=3D Normal
64 - 127=3D Half
No Transmit
CC# 50 60 (C4) Record/Overdub 0 - 63=3D Overdub
64 - 127=3D Record
No Transmit
CC# 64 N/A Tap Button Tap =3D 127 Tap =3D 127
CC# 65 N/A Note Value 0 - 127 0 to127
CC# 66 N/A Time Knob 0 - 127 0 to 127
CC# 67 N/A Repeats Knob 0 - 127 0 to 127
CC# 68 N/A Tweak Knob 0 - 127 0 to 127
CC# 69 N/A Tweez Knob 0 - 127 0 to 127
CC# 76 N/A Mix Knob 0 - 127 0 to 127
CC# 77 N/A Bypass Button 0 - 63 0 to 63
CC# 78 N/A Effect Model Select 0-15 0-15
CC# 80 64 (E4) Play Once 0 - 63=3D Normal
64 - 127=3D Once
No Transmit
CC# 81 70 (A#4) Stop Only Stop=3D127 No Transmit
CC# 82 65 (F4) Overdub Only Overdub=3D127 No Transmit
CC# 83 61 (C#4) Rec/Play/Stop/Play/Stop Advance=3D127 No Transmit
CC# 84 Rec/Stop/Play/Stop/Play Advance=3D127 No Transmit
CC# 85 69 (A4) Reverse 0 - 63=3D Normal
64 - 127=3D Reverse
No Transmit
N/A 66 (F#4) Record Only N/A N/A
N/A 68 (G#4) Play Only N/A N/A
N/A 71 (B4) Loop Reset N/A N/A
A =95 3=

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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Seriously Peter, you only get =
LD at work? I won't tell anyone :-)<div>&nbsp;I bet there are anyone of =
a number of guys on this list. who could help you out with your =
behringer/ Line 6 rack looper issue. To start with the behringer will do =
Midi &nbsp;PC, CC , &nbsp;note messages, and you might try CC or notes =
rather than PC change messages which are more limited. You can get it to =
respond like a good ol DL-4, on steroids that way...yummy..... An =
FCB1010 strait from the factory might have all kinds of conflicting =
&nbsp;combinations of PC CC and note messages already on it. It will =
take some reprogramming of the FCB . and If you have Skype at home, =
&nbsp;You might even get someone to talk you through it, you might even =
throw a little L$ve their way for doing it. &nbsp;Timeless by =
Abercrombie, &nbsp;an all time favorite. The Dude abides fo sho, try not =
to be out of the office as much ok???:-)<div>&nbsp;Bill</div><div>Below =
are some midi implementation charts taken right off the L6 website for =
the Echo Pro</div><div><a =
href=3D"http://line6.com/data/l/c0a8090bf777404f9fa803ddf/application/pdf/=
Echo%20Pro%20User%20Manual%20-%20English.pdf">http://line6.com/data/l/c0a8=
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Brilliant

If LD was a religion this would be a significant day :)=20

Matt Stevens
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On 18 May 2011, at 00:40, phaslem@wightman.ca wrote:

> How about "Peter Leinhos is in the office on the front" and "Peter =
Leinhos is out of the office" on the back?
>=20
> Paul Haslem
> Ontario, Canada
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> Quoting Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>:
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>> I want a "Peter Leinhos is in the office" T-Shirt
>>=20
>> Matt Stevens
>> http://www.fierceandthedead.com
>> http://www.mattstevensguitar.com
>> http://www.spencerparkmusic.com
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>> On 17 May 2011, at 22:12, Toby G wrote:
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>>> Whoa, the dude exists.  The dude abides.
>>>=20
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>>> t
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com
>>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:57 PM
>>> Subject: Re Peter Leinhos is out of the office.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Well obviously I'm in today, No one has gotten my ALERT.
>>> Thanks for the good Loop site info.
>>> Since the office has taken away my access to 'You tube' I cant see =
anything any more.
>>> so it's all theoretical.
>>> My first looper was 2 seconds long on a Roland Digital rack unit I =
bought in the early 90's.
>>> Then I got my Line 6 rack Delay w 2 minutes.
>>> Working in the Telecom Dept at Farmers,
>>> I was the "music on hold" for a while here at Farmers with a spacey =
piece I built around a
>>> baserun I lifted from John Abercrombie, ( Timeless ).  It was =
calming and served it's purpose.
>>> My problem is I could never get my Behringer FCB 1010 controller
>>> to work with the line 6 delay unit correctly.  All it would do is =
change the presets.
>>> But for the looper is all under one preset.
>>> So I resolve to use my big toe to change the 'Record' &'Stop' =
buttons on the fly.
>>> Some times Mr. Toe will nudge the patch selector dial and roll on to =
patch number 1.
>>> and that's the end of that .
>>> It's all fun.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Peter A. Leinhos
>>> Farmers Zurich Telecom & Video Operations
>>> Group IT Operations
>>> 4680 Wilshire Blvd
>>> Los Angeles, Ca 90010
>>> USA
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>>> Cell    213 944 4064
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I prophesize a day when ALL of us will be out of office...

Let us follow in Leinhos, Peter's example my bretheren....!!



Fuckin 'ell... get this *unt a gmail account pronto...


>Brilliant
>
>If LD was a religion this would be a significant day :)
>
>Matt Stevens
>http://www.fierceandthedead.com
>http://www.mattstevensguitar.com
>http://www.spencerparkmusic.com
>mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com
>
>On 18 May 2011, at 00:40, phaslem@wightman.ca wrote:
>
>>  How about "Peter Leinhos is in the office on the front" and "Peter 
>>Leinhos is out of the office" on the back?
>>
>>  Paul Haslem
>>  Ontario, Canada
>>  www.dulcify.ca
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Quoting Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>:
>>
>>>  I want a "Peter Leinhos is in the office" T-Shirt
>>>
>>>  Matt Stevens
>>>  http://www.fierceandthedead.com
>>>  http://www.mattstevensguitar.com
>>>  http://www.spencerparkmusic.com
>>>  mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com
>>>
>>>  On 17 May 2011, at 22:12, Toby G wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Whoa, the dude exists.  The dude abides.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  t
>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>>  From: peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com
>>>>  To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>>>  Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:57 PM
>>>>  Subject: Re Peter Leinhos is out of the office.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Well obviously I'm in today, No one has gotten my ALERT.
>>>>  Thanks for the good Loop site info.
>>>>  Since the office has taken away my access to 'You tube' I cant 
>>>>see anything any more.
>>>>  so it's all theoretical.
>>>>  My first looper was 2 seconds long on a Roland Digital rack unit 
>>>>I bought in the early 90's.
>>>>  Then I got my Line 6 rack Delay w 2 minutes.
>>>>  Working in the Telecom Dept at Farmers,
>>>>  I was the "music on hold" for a while here at Farmers with a 
>>>>spacey piece I built around a
>>>>  baserun I lifted from John Abercrombie, ( Timeless ).  It was 
>>>>calming and served it's purpose.
>>>>  My problem is I could never get my Behringer FCB 1010 controller
>>>>  to work with the line 6 delay unit correctly.  All it would do 
>>>>is change the presets.
>>>>  But for the looper is all under one preset.
>>>>  So I resolve to use my big toe to change the 'Record' &'Stop' 
>>>>buttons on the fly.
>>>>  Some times Mr. Toe will nudge the patch selector dial and roll 
>>>>on to patch number 1.
>>>>  and that's the end of that .
>>>>  It's all fun.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Peter A. Leinhos
>>>>  Farmers Zurich Telecom & Video Operations
>>>>  Group IT Operations
>>>>  4680 Wilshire Blvd
>>>>  Los Angeles, Ca 90010
>>>>  USA
>>>>
>>>>  Desk 323 964 8807
>>>>  Cell    213 944 4064
>>>>
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>>>>documents accompanying this transmission may contain privileged 
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>>>>disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on the contents of 
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>


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Gareth=2C Sentientfx -  Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/



> Date: Tue=2C 17 May 2011 18:02:12 -0700
> From: looppool@cruzio.com
> To: toddreyn@gmail.com
> CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: A looping fork in the road. Which way do I go?
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On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 3:02 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
> I wonder if Macbook Pro owners have had any problems with brown electrici=
ty.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Anyone know?

I've been using a Macbook for four years in many countries and never
had a glitch. I guess I must have come across "brown electricity"
somewhere, so I think this lappy is pretty hard to knock out. When I
have experienced a totally cut off of electricity (as during thunder
storms) it has switched over to battery power without cutting down on
duties. But PA speakers and other external gear shut down so the show
is off anyway ;-))

As for the MBP I've used one for  onlya very short time and can't
tell, but I would be surprised if it wasn't as stable as the earlier
Macbook model.

Regarding hum and noise in the audio output; I remember a thread on
the Ableton Live forum where a lot of people with Windows based
laptops found a solution in not using the house power but rather
running the show on the laptop batteries. People posted in and said
that this completely fixed the noise issue.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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Ive never heard of "brown power!" Weirdly except when playing SimCity years
ago, there was a situation at the power plant called a "brown out!" I didnt
know what that was either!

So I guess its a US thing...

Of course fridges tuning on an off, and light switches an cause clicks and
pops on recordings.



> Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 18:02:12 -0700
> > From: looppool@cruzio.com
> > To: toddreyn@gmail.com
> > CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > Subject: Re: A looping fork in the road. Which way do I go?
> >
> > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, todd reynolds wrote:
> > > I had one person suggest recently that the problem might be power, as
> > > one thing which is happening during performance is the addition to
> > > lights, though you can be sure my power isn't on a dimmer! lol.
> > Over the years, Bill and I have both had a lot of problems with
> > 'brown' electricity.
> > The Lexicon Jamman was notoriously unreliable when the voltage in house
> > got too low.
> > (that's always one salient advantage to owning battery powered gear)
> >
> > Voltage can, of course, vary quite a bit in different venues (at least
> > in the US....what's your take everyone else?)
> > .........especially places like restaurants and
> > coffee shops and museums/galleries where the building was not designed,
> > specifically, for musical performance.
> >
> > Standard practice is to always be on a different circuit than your
> > lighting but many buildings don't have different
> > circuits for the AC they provide.
> >
> > You can buy a very expensive power conditioner that keeps voltage at the
> > right level but they
> > are pretty expensive ($500 USD) and they are really heavy. I've never
> > invested, myself, but I've had
> > a few heartbreaking equipment failures in my time during performances,
> > as well.
> >
> > I wonder if Macbook Pro owners have had any problems with brown
> > electricity. Anyone know?
> >
> > rick walker
> >
>



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<div>&gt; Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 18:02:12 -0700<br>&gt; From: <a href=3D"ma=
ilto:looppool@cruzio.com" target=3D"_blank">looppool@cruzio.com</a><br>&gt;=
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M, todd reynolds wrote:<br>

&gt; &gt; I had one person suggest recently that the problem might be power=
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ddition to <br>&gt; &gt; lights,  though you can be sure my power isn&#39;t=
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&gt; Over the years,   Bill and I have both had a lot of problems with <br>=
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y unreliable when the voltage in house <br>&gt; got too low.<br>&gt; (that&=
#39;s always one salient advantage to owning battery powered gear)<br>

&gt; <br>&gt; Voltage can,  of course,  vary quite a bit in different venue=
s (at least <br>&gt; in the US....what&#39;s your take everyone  else?)<br>=
&gt; .........especially places like restaurants and<br>&gt; coffee shops a=
nd museums/galleries  where the building was not designed, <br>

&gt; specifically, for musical performance.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Standard pract=
ice is to always be on a different circuit than your <br>&gt; lighting but =
many buildings don&#39;t have different<br>&gt; circuits for the AC they pr=
ovide.<br>

&gt; <br>&gt; You can buy a very expensive power conditioner that keeps vol=
tage at the <br>&gt; right level but they<br>&gt; are pretty expensive ($50=
0 USD) and they are really heavy.   I&#39;ve never <br>&gt; invested, mysel=
f, but I&#39;ve had<br>

&gt; a few heartbreaking equipment failures in my time during performances,=
 <br>&gt; as well.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; I wonder if Macbook Pro owners have had=
 any problems with brown <br>&gt; electricity.    Anyone know?<br>&gt; <br>

&gt; rick walker<br>&gt; <br> 		 	   		  </div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><i style=3D"font-family=
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ncombe</u></font></i><br>

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My Macbook pro is absolutely not as stable as my previous macbook white. =
I have the same problems as Todd Reynolds. It's rare but extremely =
frustrating issue and after troubleshooting it for a year I'm pretty =
sure it's a problem with the Turbo boost feature in the dual core i7 =
chips from last year's Macbook pro line. I can turn this feature off if =
I run Windows7 on the same macbook pro and I no longer have any issues. =
The turbo boost, and speed stepping reserve cpu for when you really need =
it but I think when those features kick in, it disturbs your audio =
stream. I have been calling/emailing apple constantly about my issues =
over the past year so we will see if anything is ever done about it. I =
have already tried everything thing else possible to get the Macbook pro =
not to glitch in OSX but nothing has worked..... even disabling one of =
the cpu's and hyperthreading! When the glitches happen the cpu usage can =
be as low as 14% . Only half of my ram being used. And again I can run =
the same software on the same hardware with a different operating =
system, without any problems. So to me the problem is Apple's OS.

-Todd Matthews
On May 18, 2011, at 5:36 AM, Per Boysen wrote:

> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 3:02 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> =
wrote:
>> I wonder if Macbook Pro owners have had any problems with brown =
electricity.
>>    Anyone know?
>=20
> I've been using a Macbook for four years in many countries and never
> had a glitch. I guess I must have come across "brown electricity"
> somewhere, so I think this lappy is pretty hard to knock out. When I
> have experienced a totally cut off of electricity (as during thunder
> storms) it has switched over to battery power without cutting down on
> duties. But PA speakers and other external gear shut down so the show
> is off anyway ;-))
>=20
> As for the MBP I've used one for  onlya very short time and can't
> tell, but I would be surprised if it wasn't as stable as the earlier
> Macbook model.
>=20
> Regarding hum and noise in the audio output; I remember a thread on
> the Ableton Live forum where a lot of people with Windows based
> laptops found a solution in not using the house power but rather
> running the show on the laptop batteries. People posted in and said
> that this completely fixed the noise issue.
>=20
> Greetings from Sweden
>=20
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> www.looproom.com internet music hub
>=20

--------------------
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toddbass.com
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I experienced nasty hum when trying to work on recording an album at =
various locations. It doesn't happen at home but at a studio and at a =
concert hall when I turned up the gain on my mic pre or RME Fireface =
there was this nasty buzz in the background. I need to get a power =
conditioner and try to record at those places again to see if it solves =
the problem.=20
-Todd Matthews
On May 18, 2011, at 5:57 AM, mark francombe wrote:

> Ive never heard of "brown power!" Weirdly except when playing SimCity =
years ago, there was a situation at the power plant called a "brown =
out!" I didnt know what that was either!
>=20
> So I guess its a US thing...
>=20
> Of course fridges tuning on an off, and light switches an cause clicks =
and pops on recordings.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 18:02:12 -0700
> > From: looppool@cruzio.com
> > To: toddreyn@gmail.com
> > CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > Subject: Re: A looping fork in the road. Which way do I go?
> >=20
> > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, todd reynolds wrote:
> > > I had one person suggest recently that the problem might be power, =
as=20
> > > one thing which is happening during performance is the addition to=20=

> > > lights, though you can be sure my power isn't on a dimmer! lol.=20
> > Over the years, Bill and I have both had a lot of problems with=20
> > 'brown' electricity.
> > The Lexicon Jamman was notoriously unreliable when the voltage in =
house=20
> > got too low.
> > (that's always one salient advantage to owning battery powered gear)
> >=20
> > Voltage can, of course, vary quite a bit in different venues (at =
least=20
> > in the US....what's your take everyone else?)
> > .........especially places like restaurants and
> > coffee shops and museums/galleries where the building was not =
designed,=20
> > specifically, for musical performance.
> >=20
> > Standard practice is to always be on a different circuit than your=20=

> > lighting but many buildings don't have different
> > circuits for the AC they provide.
> >=20
> > You can buy a very expensive power conditioner that keeps voltage at =
the=20
> > right level but they
> > are pretty expensive ($500 USD) and they are really heavy. I've =
never=20
> > invested, myself, but I've had
> > a few heartbreaking equipment failures in my time during =
performances,=20
> > as well.
> >=20
> > I wonder if Macbook Pro owners have had any problems with brown=20
> > electricity. Anyone know?
> >=20
> > rick walker
> >=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> Mark Francombe
> www.markfrancombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no
> twitter @markfrancombe

--------------------
Todd Matthews
toddbass.com
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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I =
experienced nasty hum when trying to work on recording an album at =
various locations. It doesn't happen at home but at a studio and at a =
concert hall when I turned up the gain on my mic pre or RME Fireface =
there was this nasty buzz in the background. I need to get a power =
conditioner and try to record at those places again to see if it solves =
the problem.&nbsp;<div>-Todd Matthews</div><div><div><div>On May 18, =
2011, at 5:57 AM, mark francombe wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite">Ive never =
heard of "brown power!" Weirdly except when playing SimCity years ago, =
there was a situation at the power plant called a "brown out!" I didnt =
know what that was either!<br><br>So I guess its a US thing...<br>

<br>Of course fridges tuning on an off, and light switches an cause =
clicks and pops on recordings.<br><br><br><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 =
0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">

<div>&gt; Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 18:02:12 -0700<br>&gt; From: <a =
href=3D"mailto:looppool@cruzio.com" =
target=3D"_blank">looppool@cruzio.com</a><br>&gt; To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:toddreyn@gmail.com" =
target=3D"_blank">toddreyn@gmail.com</a><br>

&gt; CC: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" =
target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br>&gt; =
Subject: Re: A looping fork in the road. Which way do I go?<br>&gt; =
<br>&gt; On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, todd reynolds wrote:<br>

&gt; &gt; I had one person suggest recently that the problem might be =
power, as <br>&gt; &gt; one thing which is happening during performance =
is the addition to <br>&gt; &gt; lights,  though you can be sure my =
power isn't on a dimmer!  lol. <br>

&gt; Over the years,   Bill and I have both had a lot of problems with =
<br>&gt; 'brown' electricity.<br>&gt; The Lexicon Jamman was notoriously =
unreliable when the voltage in house <br>&gt; got too low.<br>&gt; =
(that's always one salient advantage to owning battery powered gear)<br>

&gt; <br>&gt; Voltage can,  of course,  vary quite a bit in different =
venues (at least <br>&gt; in the US....what's your take everyone  =
else?)<br>&gt; .........especially places like restaurants and<br>&gt; =
coffee shops and museums/galleries  where the building was not designed, =
<br>

&gt; specifically, for musical performance.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Standard =
practice is to always be on a different circuit than your <br>&gt; =
lighting but many buildings don't have different<br>&gt; circuits for =
the AC they provide.<br>

&gt; <br>&gt; You can buy a very expensive power conditioner that keeps =
voltage at the <br>&gt; right level but they<br>&gt; are pretty =
expensive ($500 USD) and they are really heavy.   I've never <br>&gt; =
invested, myself, but I've had<br>

&gt; a few heartbreaking equipment failures in my time during =
performances, <br>&gt; as well.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; I wonder if Macbook Pro =
owners have had any problems with brown <br>&gt; electricity.    Anyone =
know?<br>&gt; <br>

&gt; rick walker<br>&gt; <br> 		 	   		  </div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><i =
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255);background-color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><font style=3D"font-family:trebuchet =
ms,sans-serif" size=3D"4"><u>Mark Francombe</u></font></i><br>

<font size=3D"1"><a style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" =
href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, =
51)"><a style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com/"=
 target=3D"_blank">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, =
51)">

<a style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" =
target=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br =
style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)"><a style=3D"color:rgb(51, 0, 51)" =
href=3D"http://www.looop.no/" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.looop.no</a><br>

twitter @markfrancombe</font><br>
</blockquote></div><br><div>
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"><div>--------------------</div><div>Todd Matthews</div><div><div><a =
href=3D"http://toddbass.com">toddbass.com</a></div><div>twitter: =
gtodd876</div></div></div></span></span>
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Bikibedia: "brown power" is usually caused by "brown sugar"

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On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote:
> I experienced nasty hum when trying to work on recording an album at various
> locations. It doesn't happen at home but at a studio and at a concert hall
> when I turned up the gain on my mic pre or RME Fireface there was this nasty
> buzz in the background. I need to get a power conditioner and try to record
> at those places again to see if it solves the problem.
> -Todd Matthews
> On May 18, 2011, at 5:57 AM, mark francombe wrote:
>
> Ive never heard of "brown power!" Weirdly except when playing SimCity years
> ago, there was a situation at the power plant called a "brown out!" I didnt
> know what that was either!
>
> So I guess its a US thing...
>
> Of course fridges tuning on an off, and light switches an cause clicks and
> pops on recordings.
>
>
>
>> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 18:02:12 -0700
>> > From: looppool@cruzio.com
>> > To: toddreyn@gmail.com
>> > CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> > Subject: Re: A looping fork in the road. Which way do I go?
>> >
>> > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, todd reynolds wrote:
>> > > I had one person suggest recently that the problem might be power, as
>> > > one thing which is happening during performance is the addition to
>> > > lights, though you can be sure my power isn't on a dimmer! lol.
>> > Over the years, Bill and I have both had a lot of problems with
>> > 'brown' electricity.
>> > The Lexicon Jamman was notoriously unreliable when the voltage in house
>> > got too low.
>> > (that's always one salient advantage to owning battery powered gear)
>> >
>> > Voltage can, of course, vary quite a bit in different venues (at least
>> > in the US....what's your take everyone else?)
>> > .........especially places like restaurants and
>> > coffee shops and museums/galleries where the building was not designed,
>> > specifically, for musical performance.
>> >
>> > Standard practice is to always be on a different circuit than your
>> > lighting but many buildings don't have different
>> > circuits for the AC they provide.
>> >
>> > You can buy a very expensive power conditioner that keeps voltage at the
>> > right level but they
>> > are pretty expensive ($500 USD) and they are really heavy. I've never
>> > invested, myself, but I've had
>> > a few heartbreaking equipment failures in my time during performances,
>> > as well.
>> >
>> > I wonder if Macbook Pro owners have had any problems with brown
>> > electricity. Anyone know?
>> >
>> > rick walker
>> >
>
>
>
> --
> Mark Francombe
> www.markfrancombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no
> twitter @markfrancombe
>
> --------------------
> Todd Matthews
> toddbass.com
> twitter: gtodd876
>

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Oh the irony!

I just defected to a macbook pro since I've had requests from potential cli=
ents to develop mac=20
os plugins. I'm running win7 on bootcamp as well as osx.=20

The side benefits were suposed to be:



1     Less glitching=2C (because of the absense of anti virus software).=20

2     No more dodgy earth-loop digital noise=2C (I've been inserting mains
 plug in upside down to cure that one but I'm not sure how clever that=20
is=2C given that this thing has an aluminium shell)..



Looks like I've replaced one glitch for another - oh well.. I am getting re=
diculously good latency figures at least :-)

Gareth=2C Sentientfx -  Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/



> Subject: Re: A looping fork in the road. Which way do I go?
> From: gtmatthews@gmail.com
> Date: Wed=2C 18 May 2011 06:10:20 -0400
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=20
> My Macbook pro is absolutely not as stable as my previous macbook white. =
I have the same problems as Todd Reynolds. It's rare but extremely frustrat=
ing issue and after troubleshooting it for a year I'm pretty sure it's a pr=
oblem with the Turbo boost feature in the dual core i7 chips from last year=
's Macbook pro line. I can turn this feature off if I run Windows7 on the s=
ame macbook pro and I no longer have any issues. The turbo boost=2C and spe=
ed stepping reserve cpu for when you really need it but I think when those =
features kick in=2C it disturbs your audio stream. I have been calling/emai=
ling apple constantly about my issues over the past year so we will see if =
anything is ever done about it. I have already tried everything thing else =
possible to get the Macbook pro not to glitch in OSX but nothing has worked=
..... even disabling one of the cpu's and hyperthreading! When the glitches=
 happen the cpu usage can be as low as 14% . Only half of my ram being used=
. And again I can run the same software on the same hardware with a differe=
nt operating system=2C without any problems. So to me the problem is Apple'=
s OS.
>=20
> -Todd Matthews
> On May 18=2C 2011=2C at 5:36 AM=2C Per Boysen wrote:
>=20
> > On Wed=2C May 18=2C 2011 at 3:02 AM=2C Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com=
> wrote:
> >> I wonder if Macbook Pro owners have had any problems with brown electr=
icity.
> >>    Anyone know?
> >=20
> > I've been using a Macbook for four years in many countries and never
> > had a glitch. I guess I must have come across "brown electricity"
> > somewhere=2C so I think this lappy is pretty hard to knock out. When I
> > have experienced a totally cut off of electricity (as during thunder
> > storms) it has switched over to battery power without cutting down on
> > duties. But PA speakers and other external gear shut down so the show
> > is off anyway =3B-))
> >=20
> > As for the MBP I've used one for  onlya very short time and can't
> > tell=2C but I would be surprised if it wasn't as stable as the earlier
> > Macbook model.
> >=20
> > Regarding hum and noise in the audio output=3B I remember a thread on
> > the Ableton Live forum where a lot of people with Windows based
> > laptops found a solution in not using the house power but rather
> > running the show on the laptop batteries. People posted in and said
> > that this completely fixed the noise issue.
> >=20
> > Greetings from Sweden
> >=20
> > Per Boysen
> > www.boysen.se
> > www.perboysen.com
> > www.looproom.com internet music hub
> >=20
>=20
> --------------------
> Todd Matthews
> toddbass.com
> twitter: gtodd876
>=20
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Oh the irony!<br>
I just defected to a macbook pro since I've had requests from potential cli=
ents to develop mac=20
os plugins. I'm running win7 on bootcamp as well as osx. <br>
The side benefits were suposed to be:<br>
<br>
1&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B Less glitching=2C (because of the absense=
 of anti virus software). <br>
2&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B No more dodgy earth-loop digital noise=2C=
 (I've been inserting mains
 plug in upside down to cure that one but I'm not sure how clever that=20
is=2C given that this thing has an aluminium shell)..<br>
<br>
Looks like I've replaced one glitch for another - oh well.. I am getting re=
diculously good latency figures at least :-)<br><br>Gareth=2C Sentientfx -&=
nbsp=3B Innovative music plugins. <a href=3D"http://sentientfx.com/" target=
=3D"_blank">http://sentientfx.com/</a><br><br><br><br>&gt=3B Subject: Re: A=
 looping fork in the road. Which way do I go?<br>&gt=3B From: gtmatthews@gm=
ail.com<br>&gt=3B Date: Wed=2C 18 May 2011 06:10:20 -0400<br>&gt=3B To: Loo=
pers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B My Macbook pro is abs=
olutely not as stable as my previous macbook white. I have the same problem=
s as Todd Reynolds. It's rare but extremely frustrating issue and after tro=
ubleshooting it for a year I'm pretty sure it's a problem with the Turbo bo=
ost feature in the dual core i7 chips from last year's Macbook pro line. I =
can turn this feature off if I run Windows7 on the same macbook pro and I n=
o longer have any issues. The turbo boost=2C and speed stepping reserve cpu=
 for when you really need it but I think when those features kick in=2C it =
disturbs your audio stream. I have been calling/emailing apple constantly a=
bout my issues over the past year so we will see if anything is ever done a=
bout it. I have already tried everything thing else possible to get the Mac=
book pro not to glitch in OSX but nothing has worked..... even disabling on=
e of the cpu's and hyperthreading! When the glitches happen the cpu usage c=
an be as low as 14% . Only half of my ram being used. And again I can run t=
he same software on the same hardware with a different operating system=2C =
without any problems. So to me the problem is Apple's OS.<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=
=3B -Todd Matthews<br>&gt=3B On May 18=2C 2011=2C at 5:36 AM=2C Per Boysen =
wrote:<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B &gt=3B On Wed=2C May 18=2C 2011 at 3:02 AM=2C R=
ick Walker &lt=3Blooppool@cruzio.com&gt=3B wrote:<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B I =
wonder if Macbook Pro owners have had any problems with brown electricity.<=
br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B    Anyone know?<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B <br>&gt=3B &gt=3B I=
've been using a Macbook for four years in many countries and never<br>&gt=
=3B &gt=3B had a glitch. I guess I must have come across "brown electricity=
"<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B somewhere=2C so I think this lappy is pretty hard to kno=
ck out. When I<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B have experienced a totally cut off of elect=
ricity (as during thunder<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B storms) it has switched over to =
battery power without cutting down on<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B duties. But PA speak=
ers and other external gear shut down so the show<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B is off a=
nyway =3B-))<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B <br>&gt=3B &gt=3B As for the MBP I've used on=
e for  onlya very short time and can't<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B tell=2C but I would=
 be surprised if it wasn't as stable as the earlier<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B Macboo=
k model.<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B <br>&gt=3B &gt=3B Regarding hum and noise in the =
audio output=3B I remember a thread on<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B the Ableton Live fo=
rum where a lot of people with Windows based<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B laptops found=
 a solution in not using the house power but rather<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B runnin=
g the show on the laptop batteries. People posted in and said<br>&gt=3B &gt=
=3B that this completely fixed the noise issue.<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B <br>&gt=3B=
 &gt=3B Greetings from Sweden<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B <br>&gt=3B &gt=3B Per Boysen=
<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B www.boysen.se<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B www.perboysen.com<br>&gt=
=3B &gt=3B www.looproom.com internet music hub<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B <br>&gt=3B =
<br>&gt=3B --------------------<br>&gt=3B Todd Matthews<br>&gt=3B toddbass.=
com<br>&gt=3B twitter: gtodd876<br>&gt=3B <br> 		 	   		  </body>
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Hey guys,

I'm selling my Gibson Echoplex.

I love this thing, but it's either keep this and not expand upon it's
capibilities or pay off two late car payments ( totally at $540 ).

$700 or willing to work with price ( not going to lower it lower past $540,
though. I don't want to lower the price at all. I think $700 is fair, but if
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 I don&#39;t want to lower the price at all. I think $700 is fair, but if t=
hings get worse, I might have to ).<br>
<br>E-mail me for pictures or questions.<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Sincer=
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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Todd Matthews wrote:
> So to me the problem is Apple's OS.
Contrary to common mythology,  they can be fallible..............lol


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> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Todd Matthews wrote:
>>
>> So to me the problem is Apple's OS.

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
> Contrary to common mythology, =C2=A0they can be fallible..............lol


I haven't met that myth? Ten years ago Apple's PCs really sucked for
audio! For some years I used only Windows XP based PCs back then. They
got good again when Intel stepped in.

Greetings from Sweden

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I want one that says:

"I am Peter Leinhos"




________________________________
From: Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>
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Brilliant

If LD was a religion this would be a significant day :) 


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> How about "Peter Leinhos is in the office on the front" and "Peter Leinhos is 
>out of the office" on the back?
> 
> Paul Haslem
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<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"><div>I want one that says:<br><br>"I am Peter Leinhos"<br></div><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><br><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Matt Stevens &lt;mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com&gt;<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tue, May 17, 2011 11:15:52 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Re Peter Leinhos is out of the office.<br></font><br>
Brilliant<br><br>If LD was a religion this would be a significant day :) <br><br><br>On 18 May 2011, at 00:40, <a ymailto="mailto:phaslem@wightman.ca" href="mailto:phaslem@wightman.ca">phaslem@wightman.ca</a> wrote:<br><br>&gt; How about "Peter Leinhos is in the office on the front" and "Peter Leinhos is out of the office" on the back?<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Paul Haslem<br><br></div></div>



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ive been waiting for this moment through all my life
oh lord,
oh lord.

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 3:20 PM, E Gross <slapbandjam@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I want one that says:
>
> "I am Peter Leinhos"
>
> ________________________________
> From: Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Sent: Tue, May 17, 2011 11:15:52 PM
> Subject: Re: Re Peter Leinhos is out of the office.
>
> Brilliant
>
> If LD was a religion this would be a significant day :)
>
>
> On 18 May 2011, at 00:40, phaslem@wightman.ca wrote:
>
>> How about "Peter Leinhos is in the office on the front" and "Peter Leinhos
>> is out of the office" on the back?
>>
>> Paul Haslem
>
>



-- 
www.luis-angulo.com

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Just in time for the rapture.

On May 18, 2011, at 6:39 AM, Louie Angulo wrote:

> ive been waiting for this moment through all my life
> oh lord,
> oh lord.
>=20
> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 3:20 PM, E Gross <slapbandjam@yahoo.com> =
wrote:
>> I want one that says:
>>=20
>> "I am Peter Leinhos"
>>=20
>> ________________________________
>> From: Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> Sent: Tue, May 17, 2011 11:15:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: Re Peter Leinhos is out of the office.
>>=20
>> Brilliant
>>=20
>> If LD was a religion this would be a significant day :)
>>=20
>>=20
>> On 18 May 2011, at 00:40, phaslem@wightman.ca wrote:
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>>> How about "Peter Leinhos is in the office on the front" and "Peter =
Leinhos
>>> is out of the office" on the back?
>>>=20
>>> Paul Haslem
>>=20
>>=20
>=20
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> --=20
> www.luis-angulo.com
>=20
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coincidence? i think not!

actually, i thought that peter had decided not to be part of the list any
more and set all mails from LD to be captured by his spam filter....thereby
blissfully unaware of the fuss that goes on every time he's out of the
office!



On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Mark Hamburg <mark@grubmah.com> wrote:

Just in time for the rapture.

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coincidence? i think not!<div><br></div><div>actually, i thought that peter=
 had decided not to be part of the list any more and set all mails from LD =
to be captured by his spam filter....thereby blissfully unaware of the fuss=
 that goes on every time he&#39;s out of the office!</div>
<div><br></div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, May 18, 2011=
 at 3:17 PM, Mark Hamburg <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@grub=
mah.com">mark@grubmah.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:</div><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote">
<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote">Just in time for the rapture.</div></d=
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I am pretty sure my house has power issues...my studio room (aka 2nd bedroom) has one circuit running through it---all outlets and lighting are on this circuit. It's very noisy, and sometimes when I engage buttons on certain pedals, I get that annoying "Pop!", and it also shows up as a spike in my recordings, if I am running that. Annoying as hell!!!

Yes, Rick is right---to fix it requires a very expensive power conditioner, or a visit from an electrician who can isolate this room into lighting and wall plugs, on a separate line in to the main box. Could be costly?!

And for the record, I think this unstable house power definitely messes with my LP-1 with the crackling and popping, etc. I cannot verify this, but it is definitely noticeable...as a comparison, I don't really know what my LP-1 sounds like on a friend's power system, etc. Might have to look into this further...

Edward


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Selling a few things and lowered prices on some effects pedals I've had
for a bit.

Pictures, links to some video, and full info up at:
http://daedsound.com/Salez/FS.htm


1. DAED made Music From Outer Space Weird Sound Generator (WSG) - $200
Built by DAEDSound.com into a cool GI Joe metal lunch box with on/off
volume knob, 1/4" output, and additional sound mods in addition to all th=
e
original MFOS WSG functionality. This one of a kind unit runs off a 9vt
battery and is ready to bleeping rock.

Full info and audio samples of the Weird Sound Generator at:=20
http://www.musicfromouterspace.com/mfosweb/synthdiy.action?PROJARG=3DWSG2=
010/wsg_page1.html&findProjectMode=3DBYURI&MAINTAB=3DSYNTHDIY&CATPARTNO=3D=
WSGPREBUILT


2. DAED Feedback Synth  $225 (reg $250)
Patchable stompbox sized handheld synthesizer built for live use and
abuse. Awesome graphics.  Last one in Stock.
Full info : http://www.daedsound.com/DaedFBS.htm


3. Frostwave Spacebeam    - $225

The Spacebeam is a versatile Theremin which can also be used as a CV/Gate
controller for analog synthesizers. Now out of Production?

Adjustable wavefrom from Saw to Square, switchable range, and portamento
The CV/Gate out allows you to interface with older analogs and works
incredibly well for spacey sweeps drones and more.

Some great examples of the spacebeam's madness can be found in this video=
:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DLmvM-QKyMdk

4. Some 1/8" frac modules, etc:

A. Blacet 2510 Noise/Improbability Drive - $175
B. Blue Lantern Dual VCO with 12 knobs, 3 switches, and 17 jacks! - $150
C. Frac 1/8' to Bananan patch panel with 1/4" cables -$50


5. Effects pedals:

A.  Mint in box Boss AW2 auto wah -  $55
B. Original Ross Distortion - $85 - not a reissue
C.   1970s Univox Uniwah - $85 - Classic!


6. Circuit Bent items by DAEDsound.com

A. Circuit Bent Talk and Learn Alphabet -  $65 - Glitches, Buzzes, Touch
points and all the letters you could want. Twist music or letters.
B.  DAED Coffin Wave  -  Handheld button activated theremin-like tone
generator. Built into a toy coffin with adjustable pitch.  $40


TERMS: all items located in Phila Pa. Pickup or ship at buyer's expense. =
I
take Paypal personal payment (or add for fees) or USPS MO.

Possible trades for a EH POG II or Zvex Machine.

I think prices are very fair but if you want more than one item and wish
to make a serious offer I'll politely listen. Thanks for looking.







     ---------------------------------------
     NEW DAED SITE!!  -  Http://DaedSound.com
 DAED: Circuit Bent and Unusual Sound Devices
"Making Something Extrodinary from the Ordinary"

      Music and More at the Mothership:
    Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com

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> (who learned, through your post for the first time, that DC doesn't fluctuate it's output regardless of incoming voltage,  thanks!!!)

Regulated power supplies only.  Unregulated can fluctuate with movement of incoming AC. In the case of the MBPro, the power supply is regulated and theoretically, should not brown out with fluctuating voltage.  If power were to go down entirely, then the battery power should take over seamlessly.  At least, this is what is happening on my MBPro when I cut the power mid-loop.  No glitch whatsoever.  My sound card is 100% powered over the FW buss.   Many sound cards require additional power (above and beyond the FW buss or USB buss power)  In this case, I can imagine browning voltage causing glitches in the audio stream especially if these sound card is powered by an unregulated power supply.
> 
> Daniel,  it is quite simple in Windows to figure out what apps turn on automatically at boot up, so you can disable them
> if you want to.


> Do you know how to do this on the Mac Book Pro?
     

Activity monitor (in the utilities directory)  shows currently running UNIX processes.  

http://oreilly.com/pub/a/mac/2005/10/04/activity-monitor.html


Cheers all
Daniel   

On May 17, 2011, at 6:13 PM, Rick Walker wrote:

> (who learned, through your post for the first time, that DC doesn't fluctuate it's output regardless of incoming voltage,  thanks!!!)
> 
> (and who commensurately  surmises that his DeVolt power regulator, designed to change the output of analog
> footpedals, won't work on DC footpedals.......Hmmmmmm!)

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Hi Tim,
is it the EDP PLUS black one?

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Timothy Miller
<timothy.luke.miller@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> I'm selling my Gibson Echoplex.
>
> I love this thing, but it's either keep this and not expand upon it's
> capibilities or pay off two late car payments ( totally at $540 ).
>
> $700 or willing to work with price ( not going to lower it lower past $540,
> though. I don't want to lower the price at all. I think $700 is fair, but if
> things get worse, I might have to ).
>
> E-mail me for pictures or questions.
>
> --
> Sincerely,
> Tim
>



-- 
www.luis-angulo.com

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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote:
> Just in time for the rapture.
Yeah, in that spirit,

I have a Gibson EDP for sale for $27.00 USD
2 Looperlative LP-1s and a prototype LP-2 for sale for $31.99
2 Electrix Repeaters for sale (one working, one not) for $12.00
and a Line 6 DL-4 for sale for $1.95

I'll pay the shipping if you really hurry.

I've sold my home,   burned my car and am heading out
to East Cliff to be taken.

It's been fun,  fellow loopers, but there are more important things
than gear.

rick walker

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It will be sad to see you go Rick!

FYI, for those who don't expect to be part of the rapture, there might be
some business opportunities to be had. I was pretty impressed with this one:
http://eternal-earthbound-pets.com/

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote:
>
>> Just in time for the rapture.
>>
> Yeah, in that spirit,
>
> I have a Gibson EDP for sale for $27.00 USD
> 2 Looperlative LP-1s and a prototype LP-2 for sale for $31.99
> 2 Electrix Repeaters for sale (one working, one not) for $12.00
> and a Line 6 DL-4 for sale for $1.95
>
> I'll pay the shipping if you really hurry.
>
> I've sold my home,   burned my car and am heading out
> to East Cliff to be taken.
>
> It's been fun,  fellow loopers, but there are more important things
> than gear.
>
> rick walker
>
>


-- 
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It will be sad to see you go Rick!<br><br>FYI, for those who don&#39;t expe=
ct to be part of the rapture, there might be some business opportunities to=
 be had. I was pretty impressed with this one:<br><a href=3D"http://eternal=
-earthbound-pets.com/">http://eternal-earthbound-pets.com/</a><br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Rick Walke=
r <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:looppool@cruzio.com">looppool@cru=
zio.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Just in time for the rapture.<br>
</blockquote>
Yeah, in that spirit,<br>
<br>
I have a Gibson EDP for sale for $27.00 USD<br>
2 Looperlative LP-1s and a prototype LP-2 for sale for $31.99<br>
2 Electrix Repeaters for sale (one working, one not) for $12.00<br>
and a Line 6 DL-4 for sale for $1.95<br>
<br>
I&#39;ll pay the shipping if you really hurry.<br>
<br>
I&#39;ve sold my home, =A0 burned my car and am heading out<br>
to East Cliff to be taken.<br>
<br>
It&#39;s been fun, =A0fellow loopers, but there are more important things<b=
r>
than gear.<br><font color=3D"#888888">
<br>
rick walker<br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Art Simon<br><a =
href=3D"mailto:simart@gmail.com">simart@gmail.com</a><br>myspace [dot] com/=
artsimon<br>

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I'm offering a plant watering service, but it's Austin only, sorry.  We'll
also unplug the iron, and keep the papers from piling up on the driveway.

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:

> It will be sad to see you go Rick!
>
> FYI, for those who don't expect to be part of the rapture, there might be
> some business opportunities to be had. I was pretty impressed with this one:
> http://eternal-earthbound-pets.com/
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
>
>> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote:
>>
>>> Just in time for the rapture.
>>>
>> Yeah, in that spirit,
>>
>> I have a Gibson EDP for sale for $27.00 USD
>> 2 Looperlative LP-1s and a prototype LP-2 for sale for $31.99
>> 2 Electrix Repeaters for sale (one working, one not) for $12.00
>> and a Line 6 DL-4 for sale for $1.95
>>
>> I'll pay the shipping if you really hurry.
>>
>> I've sold my home,   burned my car and am heading out
>> to East Cliff to be taken.
>>
>> It's been fun,  fellow loopers, but there are more important things
>> than gear.
>>
>> rick walker
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Art Simon
> simart@gmail.com
> myspace [dot] com/artsimon
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I&#39;m offering a plant watering service, but it&#39;s Austin only, sorry.=
 =A0We&#39;ll also unplug the iron, and keep the papers from piling up on t=
he driveway. =A0<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, May 18, 2011 at =
1:31 PM, Art Simon <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simart@gmail.com=
">simart@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">It will be sad to see you go Rick!<br><br>F=
YI, for those who don&#39;t expect to be part of the rapture, there might b=
e some business opportunities to be had. I was pretty impressed with this o=
ne:<br>
<a href=3D"http://eternal-earthbound-pets.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://et=
ernal-earthbound-pets.com/</a><br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Rick Walke=
r <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:looppool@cruzio.com" target=3D"_b=
lank">looppool@cruzio.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-lef=
t:1ex">

On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Just in time for the rapture.<br>
</blockquote>
Yeah, in that spirit,<br>
<br>
I have a Gibson EDP for sale for $27.00 USD<br>
2 Looperlative LP-1s and a prototype LP-2 for sale for $31.99<br>
2 Electrix Repeaters for sale (one working, one not) for $12.00<br>
and a Line 6 DL-4 for sale for $1.95<br>
<br>
I&#39;ll pay the shipping if you really hurry.<br>
<br>
I&#39;ve sold my home, =A0 burned my car and am heading out<br>
to East Cliff to be taken.<br>
<br>
It&#39;s been fun, =A0fellow loopers, but there are more important things<b=
r>
than gear.<br><font color=3D"#888888">
<br>
rick walker<br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Art Simon<br><a =
href=3D"mailto:simart@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">simart@gmail.com</a><br>=
myspace [dot] com/artsimon<br>
</blockquote></div><br>

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On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com> wrote:
> I'm offering a plant watering service

how about a water plant without flouride the world could use more of those;-)

http://befreetech.com/fluoridation.htm

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Howdy,

 Is the weird sound generator based on a SN74677 or that sound chip? (not s=
ure if the number is exactly right. Thanx
Rig

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> From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com <legion@helpwantedproductions.com>
> Subject: FS:  Frostwave, MFOS, Synths, Circuit Bent. effects, etc
> To: "Loopers Delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>, "AH" <analog=
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> Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 8:39 AM
>=20
> Selling a few things and lowered prices on some effects
> pedals I've had
> for a bit.
>=20
> Pictures, links to some video, and full info up at:
> http://daedsound.com/Salez/FS.htm
>=20
>=20
> 1. DAED made Music From Outer Space Weird Sound Generator
> (WSG) - $200
> Built by DAEDSound.com into a cool GI Joe metal lunch box
> with on/off
> volume knob, 1/4" output, and additional sound mods in
> addition to all the
> original MFOS WSG functionality. This one of a kind unit
> runs off a 9vt
> battery and is ready to bleeping rock.
>=20
> Full info and audio samples of the Weird Sound Generator
> at:=20
> http://www.musicfromouterspace.com/mfosweb/synthdiy.action?PROJARG=3DWSG2=
010/wsg_page1.html&findProjectMode=3DBYURI&MAINTAB=3DSYNTHDIY&CATPARTNO=3DW=
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>=20
>=20
> 2. DAED Feedback Synth=A0 $225 (reg $250)
> Patchable stompbox sized handheld synthesizer built for
> live use and
> abuse. Awesome graphics.=A0 Last one in Stock.
> Full info : http://www.daedsound.com/DaedFBS.htm
>=20
>=20
> 3. Frostwave Spacebeam=A0 =A0 - $225
>=20
> The Spacebeam is a versatile Theremin which can also be
> used as a CV/Gate
> controller for analog synthesizers. Now out of Production?
>=20
> Adjustable wavefrom from Saw to Square, switchable range,
> and portamento
> The CV/Gate out allows you to interface with older analogs
> and works
> incredibly well for spacey sweeps drones and more.
>=20
> Some great examples of the spacebeam's madness can be found
> in this video:
>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DLmvM-QKyMdk
>=20
> 4. Some 1/8" frac modules, etc:
>=20
> A. Blacet 2510 Noise/Improbability Drive - $175
> B. Blue Lantern Dual VCO with 12 knobs, 3 switches, and 17
> jacks! - $150
> C. Frac 1/8' to Bananan patch panel with 1/4" cables -$50
>=20
>=20
> 5. Effects pedals:
>=20
> A.=A0 Mint in box Boss AW2 auto wah -=A0 $55
> B. Original Ross Distortion - $85 - not a reissue
> C.=A0=A0=A01970s Univox Uniwah - $85 - Classic!
>=20
>=20
> 6. Circuit Bent items by DAEDsound.com
>=20
> A. Circuit Bent Talk and Learn Alphabet -=A0 $65 -
> Glitches, Buzzes, Touch
> points and all the letters you could want. Twist music or
> letters.
> B.=A0 DAED Coffin Wave=A0 -=A0 Handheld button
> activated theremin-like tone
> generator. Built into a toy coffin with adjustable
> pitch.=A0 $40
>=20
>=20
> TERMS: all items located in Phila Pa. Pickup or ship at
> buyer's expense. I
> take Paypal personal payment (or add for fees) or USPS MO.
>=20
> Possible trades for a EH POG II or Zvex Machine.
>=20
> I think prices are very fair but if you want more than one
> item and wish
> to make a serious offer I'll politely listen. Thanks for
> looking.
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> =A0
> =A0=A0=A0---------------------------------------
> =A0 =A0=A0=A0NEW DAED SITE!!=A0 -=A0 Http://DaedSound.com
>  DAED: Circuit Bent and Unusual Sound Devices
> "Making Something Extrodinary from the Ordinary"
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> =A0 =A0 =A0 Music and More at the Mothership:
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Has any looper in the past played a practical joke and started a fake Peter=
 Leinhos email addy to posted on the list as Peter? with all you humorous f=
olks on here I'd be surprised if it hasn't happened... ;)

--- On Tue, 5/17/11, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:

From: William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com>
Subject: Re Peter Leinhos is out of the office.
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 7:54 PM

Seriously Peter, you only get LD at work? I won't tell anyone :-)=C2=A0I be=
t there are anyone of a number of guys on this list. who could help you out=
 with your behringer/ Line 6 rack looper issue. To start with the behringer=
 will do Midi =C2=A0PC, CC , =C2=A0note messages, and you might try CC or n=
otes rather than PC change messages which are more limited. You can get it =
to respond like a good ol DL-4, on steroids that way...yummy..... An FCB101=
0 strait from the factory might have all kinds of conflicting =C2=A0combina=
tions of PC CC and note messages already on it. It will take some reprogram=
ming of the FCB . and If you have Skype at home, =C2=A0You might even get s=
omeone to talk you through it, you might even throw a little L$ve their way=
 for doing it. =C2=A0Timeless by Abercrombie, =C2=A0an all time favorite. T=
he Dude abides fo sho, try not to be out of the office as much ok???:-)=C2=
=A0BillBelow are some midi implementation charts taken right off the L6 web=
site for the Echo
 Prohttp://line6.com/data/l/c0a8090bf777404f9fa803ddf/application/pdf/Echo%=
20Pro%20User%20Manual%20-%20English.pdfAt this point, you=E2=80=99re probab=
ly saying to yourself, =E2=80=9CHow can I possibly play and hit thosebutton=
s at the same time? This is stupid!=E2=80=9D Well, stupid is as stupid does=
, and ourmommas didn=E2=80=99t raise no dummies. You can also control the L=
ooper with MIDI ProgramChanges, MIDI Continuous Controllers, or MIDI Notes,=
 so that, with pretty muchwhatever controller you=E2=80=99re using, you can=
 use it to start, stop, and otherwise mess aboutwith your Echo Pro=E2=80=99=
s Looper. There=E2=80=99s a complete list of what controls what in theAppen=
dix at the back of this manual.
Appendices: MIDI Implementation - Program ChangeMIDI Implementation -Progra=
m ChangeProgram ChangeAssignment000 Enable Bypass001 Program 1=E2=80=A6 =E2=
=80=A6099 Program 99100 Ignored101 Looper Rec/Play/Stop/Play/Stop102 Looper=
 Rec/Stop/Play/Stop/Play103 Looper Record Only104 Looper Overdub Only105 Lo=
oper Stop Only106 Looper Play/Stop107 Looper Play Once108 Looper Half Speed=
109 Looper Reverse110 Ignored111 Tube Echo112 Tape Echo113 Multi-head114 Sw=
eep Echo115 Analog Echo116 Analog w/Mod117 Lo Res Delay118 Digital Delay119=
 Digital w/Mod120 Echo Platter121 Stereo Delays122 Ping Pong123 Reverse124 =
Dynamic Delay125 Auto-Volume Echo126 Loop Sampler (Reset)127 IgnoredA =E2=
=80=A2 2Appendices: MIDI Implementation - Continuous Controller & Note Func=
tionsMIDI Implementation -Continuous Controller & Note FunctionsCont.Contro=
llerMIDI NoteNumberEcho Pro ControlReceivedValue RangeTransmittedValue Rang=
eCC# 04 N/A Expression Pedal 0 - 127 0 to 127CC# 28 62 (D4) Play/Stop 0 - 6=
3=3DStop64 -
 127=3DPlayNo TransmitCC# 36 67 (G4) Half Speed 0 - 63=3D Normal64 - 127=3D=
 HalfNo TransmitCC# 50 60 (C4) Record/Overdub 0 - 63=3D Overdub64 - 127=3D =
RecordNo TransmitCC# 64 N/A Tap Button Tap =3D 127 Tap =3D 127CC# 65 N/A No=
te Value 0 - 127 0 to127CC# 66 N/A Time Knob 0 - 127 0 to 127CC# 67 N/A Rep=
eats Knob 0 - 127 0 to 127CC# 68 N/A Tweak Knob 0 - 127 0 to 127CC# 69 N/A =
Tweez Knob 0 - 127 0 to 127CC# 76 N/A Mix Knob 0 - 127 0 to 127CC# 77 N/A B=
ypass Button 0 - 63 0 to 63CC# 78 N/A Effect Model Select 0-15 0-15CC# 80 6=
4 (E4) Play Once 0 - 63=3D Normal64 - 127=3D OnceNo TransmitCC# 81 70 (A#4)=
 Stop Only Stop=3D127 No TransmitCC# 82 65 (F4) Overdub Only Overdub=3D127 =
No TransmitCC# 83 61 (C#4) Rec/Play/Stop/Play/Stop Advance=3D127 No Transmi=
tCC# 84 Rec/Stop/Play/Stop/Play Advance=3D127 No TransmitCC# 85 69 (A4) Rev=
erse 0 - 63=3D Normal64 - 127=3D ReverseNo TransmitN/A 66 (F#4) Record Only=
 N/A N/AN/A 68 (G#4) Play Only N/A N/AN/A 71 (B4) Loop Reset N/A N/AA =E2=
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"=
top" style=3D"font: inherit;">Has any looper in the past played a practical=
 joke and started a fake Peter Leinhos email addy to posted on the list as =
Peter? with all you humorous folks on here I'd be surprised if it hasn't ha=
ppened... ;)<br><br>--- On <b>Tue, 5/17/11, William Walker <i>&lt;billwalke=
r@baymoon.com&gt;</i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px s=
olid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Will=
iam Walker &lt;billwalker@baymoon.com&gt;<br>Subject: Re Peter Leinhos is o=
ut of the office.<br>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>Date: Tuesd=
ay, May 17, 2011, 7:54 PM<br><br><div id=3D"yiv548585314">Seriously Peter, =
you only get LD at work? I won't tell anyone :-)<div>&nbsp;I bet there are =
anyone of a number of guys on this list. who could help you out with your b=
ehringer/ Line 6 rack looper issue. To start with the behringer will do Mid=
i
 &nbsp;PC, CC , &nbsp;note messages, and you might try CC or notes rather t=
han PC change messages which are more limited. You can get it to respond li=
ke a good ol DL-4, on steroids that way...yummy..... An FCB1010 strait from=
 the factory might have all kinds of conflicting &nbsp;combinations of PC C=
C and note messages already on it. It will take some reprogramming of the F=
CB . and If you have Skype at home, &nbsp;You might even get someone to tal=
k you through it, you might even throw a little L$ve their way for doing it=
. &nbsp;Timeless by Abercrombie, &nbsp;an all time favorite. The Dude abide=
s fo sho, try not to be out of the office as much ok???:-)<div>&nbsp;Bill</=
div><div>Below are some midi implementation charts taken right off the L6 w=
ebsite for the Echo Pro</div><div><a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"
 href=3D"http://line6.com/data/l/c0a8090bf777404f9fa803ddf/application/pdf/=
Echo%20Pro%20User%20Manual%20-%20English.pdf">http://line6.com/data/l/c0a80=
90bf777404f9fa803ddf/application/pdf/Echo%20Pro%20User%20Manual%20-%20Engli=
sh.pdf</a></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-b=
ottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 11px/normal Times;">At =
this point, you=E2=80=99re probably saying to yourself, =E2=80=9CHow can I =
possibly play and hit those</div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:=
0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 11px/normal=
 Times;">buttons at the same time? This is stupid!=E2=80=9D Well, stupid is=
 as stupid does, and our</div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px=
;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 11px/normal Ti=
mes;">mommas didn=E2=80=99t raise no dummies. You can also control the Loop=
er with MIDI Program</div><div
 style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px=
;font:normal normal normal 11px/normal Times;">Changes, MIDI Continuous Con=
trollers, or MIDI Notes, so that, with pretty much</div><div style=3D"margi=
n-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal no=
rmal normal 11px/normal Times;">whatever controller you=E2=80=99re using, y=
ou can use it to start, stop, and otherwise mess about</div><div style=3D"m=
argin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:norma=
l normal normal 11px/normal Times;">with your Echo Pro=E2=80=99s Looper. Th=
ere=E2=80=99s a complete list of what controls what in the</div><div style=
=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:=
normal normal normal 11px/normal Times;">Appendix at the back of this manua=
l.</div></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0=
px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 11px/normal Times;"><br></div>=
<div
 style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px=
;font:normal normal normal 11px/normal Times;"><div style=3D"margin-top:0px=
;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal norm=
al 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><span style=3D"font:11.0px Gill Sans;"><b>Appen=
dices</b></span><span style=3D"font:10.0px Gill Sans;"><b>: </b></span><b>M=
IDI Implementation - Program Change</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;m=
argin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal=
 14px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>MIDI Implementation -</b></div><div style=3D"=
margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:norm=
al normal normal 14px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>Program Change</b></div></div=
><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-lef=
t:0px;font:normal normal normal 11px/normal Times;"><div style=3D"margin-to=
p:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal=
 normal
 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;=
margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gil=
l Sans';"><b>Program Change</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-ri=
ght:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/nor=
mal 'Gill Sans';"><b>Assignment</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margi=
n-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px=
/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>000 Enable Bypass</b></div><div style=3D"margin-to=
p:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal=
 normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>001 Program 1</b></div><div style=3D"ma=
rgin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal=
 normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>=E2=80=A6 =E2=80=A6</b></div><di=
v style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0p=
x;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>099 Program 99</b><=
/div><div
 style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px=
;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>100 Ignored</b></div=
><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-lef=
t:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>101 Looper Rec/=
Play/Stop/Play/Stop</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;=
margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gil=
l Sans';"><b>102 Looper Rec/Stop/Play/Stop/Play</b></div><div style=3D"marg=
in-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal n=
ormal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>103 Looper Record Only</b></div><d=
iv style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0=
px;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>104 Looper Overdub=
 Only</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:=
0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>1=
05
 Looper Stop Only</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;ma=
rgin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill =
Sans';"><b>106 Looper Play/Stop</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margi=
n-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px=
/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>107 Looper Play Once</b></div><div style=3D"margin=
-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal nor=
mal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>108 Looper Half Speed</b></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;=
font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>109 Looper Reverse</b=
></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;marg=
in-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>110 Ignor=
ed</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px=
;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>111 =
Tube
 Echo</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:=
0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>1=
12 Tape Echo</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-=
bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans'=
;"><b>113 Multi-head</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px=
;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gi=
ll Sans';"><b>114 Sweep Echo</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-r=
ight:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/no=
rmal 'Gill Sans';"><b>115 Analog Echo</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px=
;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal norm=
al 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>116 Analog w/Mod</b></div><div style=3D"marg=
in-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal n=
ormal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>117 Lo Res Delay</b></div><div
 style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px=
;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>118 Digital Delay</b=
></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;marg=
in-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>119 Digit=
al w/Mod</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bott=
om:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><=
b>120 Echo Platter</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;m=
argin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill=
 Sans';"><b>121 Stereo Delays</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-=
right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/n=
ormal 'Gill Sans';"><b>122 Ping Pong</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;=
margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal norma=
l 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>123 Reverse</b></div><div
 style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px=
;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>124 Dynamic Delay</b=
></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;marg=
in-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>125 Auto-=
Volume Echo</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-b=
ottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';=
"><b>126 Loop Sampler (Reset)</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-=
right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/n=
ormal 'Gill Sans';"><b>127 Ignored</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;ma=
rgin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal =
11px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>A =E2=80=A2 2</b></div><div style=3D"margin-to=
p:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal=
 normal 11px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b><div
 style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px=
;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><span style=3D"font:11.=
0px Gill Sans;"><b>Appendices</b></span><span style=3D"font:10.0px Gill San=
s;"><b>: </b></span><b>MIDI Implementation - Continuous Controller &amp; No=
te Functions</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-=
bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 14px/normal 'Gill Sans=
';"><b>MIDI Implementation -</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-r=
ight:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 14px/n=
ormal 'Gill Sans';"><b>Continuous Controller &amp; Note Functions</b></div>=
<div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left=
:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>Cont.</b></div><=
div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:=
0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>Controller</b></d=
iv><div
 style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px=
;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>MIDI Note</b></div><=
div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:=
0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>Number</b></div><=
div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:=
0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>Echo Pro Control<=
/b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;ma=
rgin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>Receive=
d</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;=
margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>Value=
 Range</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom=
:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>=
Transmitted</b></div><div
 style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px=
;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>Value Range</b></div=
><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-lef=
t:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>CC# 04 N/A Expr=
ession Pedal 0 - 127 0 to 127</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-=
right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/n=
ormal 'Gill Sans';"><b>CC# 28 62 (D4) Play/Stop 0 - 63=3DStop</b></div><div=
 style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px=
;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>64 - 127=3DPlay</b><=
/div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin=
-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>No Transmit=
</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;m=
argin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>CC# 36=
 67 (G4)
 Half Speed 0 - 63=3D Normal</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-r=
ight:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/no=
rmal 'Gill Sans';"><b>64 - 127=3D Half</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0p=
x;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal nor=
mal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>No Transmit</b></div><div style=3D"margin-t=
op:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal norma=
l normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>CC# 50 60 (C4) Record/Overdub 0 - 63=
=3D Overdub</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-b=
ottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';=
"><b>64 - 127=3D Record</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:=
0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal =
'Gill Sans';"><b>No Transmit</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-r=
ight:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/no=
rmal 'Gill
 Sans';"><b>CC# 64 N/A Tap Button Tap =3D 127 Tap =3D 127</b></div><div sty=
le=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;fon=
t:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>CC# 65 N/A Note Value 0 =
- 127 0 to127</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin=
-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans=
';"><b>CC# 66 N/A Time Knob 0 - 127 0 to 127</b></div><div style=3D"margin-=
top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal norm=
al normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>CC# 67 N/A Repeats Knob 0 - 127 0 to =
127</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0p=
x;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>CC#=
 68 N/A Tweak Knob 0 - 127 0 to 127</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;m=
argin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal=
 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>CC# 69 N/A Tweez Knob 0 - 127 0 to 127</b></di=
v><div
 style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px=
;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>CC# 76 N/A Mix Knob =
0 - 127 0 to 127</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;mar=
gin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill S=
ans';"><b>CC# 77 N/A Bypass Button 0 - 63 0 to 63</b></div><div style=3D"ma=
rgin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal=
 normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>CC# 78 N/A Effect Model Select 0=
-15 0-15</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bott=
om:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><=
b>CC# 80 64 (E4) Play Once 0 - 63=3D Normal</b></div><div style=3D"margin-t=
op:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal norma=
l normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>64 - 127=3D Once</b></div><div style=
=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:=
normal
 normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>No Transmit</b></div><div style=
=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:=
normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>CC# 81 70 (A#4) Stop Only =
Stop=3D127 No Transmit</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0=
px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal '=
Gill Sans';"><b>CC# 82 65 (F4) Overdub Only Overdub=3D127 No Transmit</b></=
div><div style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-=
left:0px;font:normal normal normal 8px/normal 'Gill Sans';"><b>CC# 83 61 (C=
#4) Rec/Play/Stop/Play/Stop Advance=3D127 No Transmit</b></div><div style=
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The MFOS Weird Sound Generator is based on the CD40106 (or 74C14) IC.=20
This design taps various outputs on it to make the dual VCO/LFO
inter-modulating madness that makes the WSG go and then adds a very nice
analog filter and some extras to make it one of the coolest and most
complete designs I have seen incorporating a 40106.

D_



> Howdy, Is the weird sound generator based on a SN74677 or that sound
chip? (not sure if the number is exactly right. Thanx Rig
>

>> Pictures, links to some video, and full info up at:
>> http://daedsound.com/Salez/FS.htm
>>
>>
>> 1. DAED made Music From Outer Space Weird Sound Generator
>> (WSG) - $200
>> Built by DAEDSound.com into a cool GI Joe metal lunch box
>> with on/off
>> volume knob, 1/4" output, and additional sound mods in
>> addition to all the
>> original MFOS WSG functionality. This one of a kind unit
>> runs off a 9vt
>> battery and is ready to bleeping rock.
>>
>> Full info and audio samples of the Weird Sound Generator
>> at:
>> http://www.musicfromouterspace.com/mfosweb/synthdiy.action?PROJARG=3DW=
SG2010/wsg_page1.html&findProjectMode=3DBYURI&MAINTAB=3DSYNTHDIY&CATPARTN=
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Howdy,

 Come to the Tri-cities in WA. No flouride. Might find some plutonium, cesium, strontium, and other trans-uranic type stuff Though.
Rig

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Benton PUD!! I used to live in Spokane and always drove thru that neck of the woods back & forth from Santa Cruz, CA, I remember on tour once in Idaho coming across a town that claimed proudly to be the 'first in the USA' to have a nuclear power plant, it had a trippy vibe. I keep hearing Thorium is the 'safe' way to go with nuclear power, but if push comes to shove, can we invent a pedal powered PA-looping system?! I guess you couldn't pedal and have your feet free to push the buttons though! 

--- On Wed, 5/18/11, bill bigrig <billbigrig@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: bill bigrig <billbigrig@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Peter Leinhos etc.
> To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 4:30 PM
> Howdy,
> 
>  Come to the Tri-cities in WA. No flouride. Might find some
> plutonium, cesium, strontium, and other trans-uranic type
> stuff Though.
> Rig
> 
> 

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Such an insightful thread this has been.  Long Live Peter Leinhos. RAH!!!

> Pedal powered PA-looping system?! I guess you couldn't pedal and have your feet free to push the buttons though! 

Funny you should mention it... I once played around with a modification to an exercise bike that would govern tempo (or any CC value) based on the front wheel speed and and send separate MIDI CC messages based on cycle counts of the front wheel.  It wasn't pedal powered per se, but it was pedal controlled.  It could easily be adapted to generate low voltage too. (Never mind the crazy project had me trying to do this.) This device, and several other wacky controller concepts are all shoved in a corner of my attic now.  Perhaps after the apocalypse and rapture I'll get around to making some post apocalyptic blues music with them.  Or..  I could just burn in hell with the rest of the laggards.  

Eternal hell fire... thats a kind of looping right?

Daniel 
On  May 18, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Steve Uccello wrote:

> Benton PUD!! I used to live in Spokane and always drove thru that neck of the woods back & forth from Santa Cruz, CA, I remember on tour once in Idaho coming across a town that claimed proudly to be the 'first in the USA' to have a nuclear power plant, it had a trippy vibe. I keep hearing Thorium is the 'safe' way to go with nuclear power, but if push comes to shove, can we invent a pedal powered PA-looping system?! I guess you couldn't pedal and have your feet free to push the buttons though! 
> 
> --- On Wed, 5/18/11, bill bigrig <billbigrig@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> From: bill bigrig <billbigrig@yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Peter Leinhos etc.
>> To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 4:30 PM
>> Howdy,
>> 
>> Come to the Tri-cities in WA. No flouride. Might find some
>> plutonium, cesium, strontium, and other trans-uranic type
>> stuff Though.
>> Rig
>> 
>> 
> 

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Just happens that I am in the process of building a WSG for my =20
grand-daughter -- she asked me to paint the box yellow with purple =20
lettering.  :)


Quoting legion@helpwantedproductions.com:

> The MFOS Weird Sound Generator is based on the CD40106 (or 74C14) IC.
> This design taps various outputs on it to make the dual VCO/LFO
> inter-modulating madness that makes the WSG go and then adds a very nice
> analog filter and some extras to make it one of the coolest and most
> complete designs I have seen incorporating a 40106.
>
> D_
>
>
>
>> Howdy, Is the weird sound generator based on a SN74677 or that sound
> chip? (not sure if the number is exactly right. Thanx Rig
>>
>
>>> Pictures, links to some video, and full info up at:
>>> http://daedsound.com/Salez/FS.htm
>>>
>>>
>>> 1. DAED made Music From Outer Space Weird Sound Generator
>>> (WSG) - $200
>>> Built by DAEDSound.com into a cool GI Joe metal lunch box
>>> with on/off
>>> volume knob, 1/4" output, and additional sound mods in
>>> addition to all the
>>> original MFOS WSG functionality. This one of a kind unit
>>> runs off a 9vt
>>> battery and is ready to bleeping rock.
>>>
>>> Full info and audio samples of the Weird Sound Generator
>>> at:
>>> http://www.musicfromouterspace.com/mfosweb/synthdiy.action?PROJARG=3DWSG=
2010/wsg_page1.html&findProjectMode=3DBYURI&MAINTAB=3DSYNTHDIY&CATPARTNO=3DW=
SGPREBUILT
>
>
>
>      ---------------------------------------
>      NEW DAED SITE!!  -  Http://DaedSound.com
>  DAED: Circuit Bent and Unusual Sound Devices
> "Making Something Extrodinary from the Ordinary"
>
>       Music and More at the Mothership:
>     Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com
>
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HA HA! I'm sure somebody somewhere has banks of deep cycle marine batteries=
 and some kind of charging system (solar or pedal) hooked up to a PA & Loop=
ing stuff -But hey, I think we already have enough gear to haul around to s=
hows already without all that!! Seriously though, I have been wanting to ge=
t one of those VOX DA5 battery powered amps that Bill was talking about in =
that "small battery powered amp" thread a while ago-It would be fun to busk=
 somewhere (or play in the woods) and loop sometime.   =0A=0A=0A=0A--- On W=
ed, 5/18/11, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com> wrote:=0A=0A> From: Dani=
el Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com>=0A> Subject: Re: Peter Leinhos etc.=0A> T=
o: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 6=
:12 PM=0A> Such an insightful thread this has=0A> been.=A0 Long Live Peter =
Leinhos. RAH!!!=0A> =0A> > Pedal powered PA-looping system?! I guess you co=
uldn't=0A> pedal and have your feet free to push the buttons though! =0A> =
=0A> Funny you should mention it... I once played around with a=0A> modific=
ation to an exercise bike that would govern tempo (or=0A> any CC value) bas=
ed on the front wheel speed and and send=0A> separate MIDI CC messages base=
d on cycle counts of the front=0A> wheel.=A0 It wasn't pedal powered per se=
, but it was=0A> pedal controlled.=A0 It could easily be adapted to=0A> gen=
erate low voltage too. (Never mind the crazy project had=0A> me trying to d=
o this.) This device, and several other wacky=0A> controller concepts are a=
ll shoved in a corner of my attic=0A> now.=A0 Perhaps after the apocalypse =
and rapture I'll get=0A> around to making some post apocalyptic blues music=
 with=0A> them.=A0 Or..=A0 I could just burn in hell with the=0A> rest of t=
he laggards.=A0 =0A> =0A> Eternal hell fire... thats a kind of looping righ=
t?=0A> =0A> Daniel =0A> On=A0 May 18, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Steve Uccello wrote=
:=0A> =0A> > Benton PUD!! I used to live in Spokane and always=0A> drove th=
ru that neck of the woods back & forth from=0A> Santa Cruz, CA, I remember =
on tour once in Idaho coming=0A> across a town that claimed proudly to be t=
he 'first in the=0A> USA' to have a nuclear power plant, it had a trippy vi=
be. I=0A> keep hearing Thorium is the 'safe' way to go with nuclear=0A> pow=
er, but if push comes to shove, can we invent a pedal=0A> powered PA-loopin=
g system?! I guess you couldn't pedal and=0A> have your feet free to push t=
he buttons though! =0A> > =0A> > --- On Wed, 5/18/11, bill bigrig <billbigr=
ig@yahoo.com>=0A> wrote:=0A> > =0A> >> From: bill bigrig <billbigrig@yahoo.=
com>=0A> >> Subject: Peter Leinhos etc.=0A> >> To: loopers-Delight@loopers-=
delight.com=0A> >> Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 4:30 PM=0A> >> Howdy,=0A>=
 >> =0A> >> Come to the Tri-cities in WA. No flouride. Might=0A> find some=
=0A> >> plutonium, cesium, strontium, and other=0A> trans-uranic type=0A> >=
> stuff Though.=0A> >> Rig=0A> >> =0A> >> =0A> > =0A> =0A> 

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I once read about a band that did a tour on bicycles. They carried a small
PA and two bicycle-powered generators. They did open air gigs and always
recruited two members of the audience to power their concert by pedaling
during the gig.
Cool concept.


2011/5/19 Steve Uccello <stevebassbird@yahoo.com>

> HA HA! I'm sure somebody somewhere has banks of deep cycle marine batteries
> and some kind of charging system (solar or pedal) hooked up to a PA &
> Looping stuff -But hey, I think we already have enough gear to haul around
> to shows already without all that!! Seriously though, I have been wanting to
> get one of those VOX DA5 battery powered amps that Bill was talking about in
> that "small battery powered amp" thread a while ago-It would be fun to busk
> somewhere (or play in the woods) and loop sometime.
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 5/18/11, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com>
> > Subject: Re: Peter Leinhos etc.
> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 6:12 PM
> > Such an insightful thread this has
> > been.  Long Live Peter Leinhos. RAH!!!
> >
> > > Pedal powered PA-looping system?! I guess you couldn't
> > pedal and have your feet free to push the buttons though!
> >
> > Funny you should mention it... I once played around with a
> > modification to an exercise bike that would govern tempo (or
> > any CC value) based on the front wheel speed and and send
> > separate MIDI CC messages based on cycle counts of the front
> > wheel.  It wasn't pedal powered per se, but it was
> > pedal controlled.  It could easily be adapted to
> > generate low voltage too. (Never mind the crazy project had
> > me trying to do this.) This device, and several other wacky
> > controller concepts are all shoved in a corner of my attic
> > now.  Perhaps after the apocalypse and rapture I'll get
> > around to making some post apocalyptic blues music with
> > them.  Or..  I could just burn in hell with the
> > rest of the laggards.
> >
> > Eternal hell fire... thats a kind of looping right?
> >
> > Daniel
> > On  May 18, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Steve Uccello wrote:
> >
> > > Benton PUD!! I used to live in Spokane and always
> > drove thru that neck of the woods back & forth from
> > Santa Cruz, CA, I remember on tour once in Idaho coming
> > across a town that claimed proudly to be the 'first in the
> > USA' to have a nuclear power plant, it had a trippy vibe. I
> > keep hearing Thorium is the 'safe' way to go with nuclear
> > power, but if push comes to shove, can we invent a pedal
> > powered PA-looping system?! I guess you couldn't pedal and
> > have your feet free to push the buttons though!
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 5/18/11, bill bigrig <billbigrig@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> From: bill bigrig <billbigrig@yahoo.com>
> > >> Subject: Peter Leinhos etc.
> > >> To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > >> Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 4:30 PM
> > >> Howdy,
> > >>
> > >> Come to the Tri-cities in WA. No flouride. Might
> > find some
> > >> plutonium, cesium, strontium, and other
> > trans-uranic type
> > >> stuff Though.
> > >> Rig
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
>
>


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I once read about a band that did a tour on bicycles. They carried a small =
PA and two bicycle-powered generators. They did open air gigs and always re=
cruited two members of the audience to power their concert by pedaling duri=
ng the gig.<div>
Cool concept.</div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/5/19 Steve =
Uccello <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:stevebassbird@yahoo.com">st=
evebassbird@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
HA HA! I&#39;m sure somebody somewhere has banks of deep cycle marine batte=
ries and some kind of charging system (solar or pedal) hooked up to a PA &a=
mp; Looping stuff -But hey, I think we already have enough gear to haul aro=
und to shows already without all that!! Seriously though, I have been wanti=
ng to get one of those VOX DA5 battery powered amps that Bill was talking a=
bout in that &quot;small battery powered amp&quot; thread a while ago-It wo=
uld be fun to busk somewhere (or play in the woods) and loop sometime.<br>

<br>
<br>
<br>
--- On Wed, 5/18/11, Daniel Thomas &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:danielthomas4@mac.=
com">danielthomas4@mac.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; From: Daniel Thomas &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:danielthomas4@mac.com">danie=
lthomas4@mac.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Subject: Re: Peter Leinhos etc.<br>
<div class=3D"im">&gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-deligh=
t.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br>
</div>&gt; Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 6:12 PM<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">&gt; Such an insightful thread this has<b=
r>
&gt; been.=A0 Long Live Peter Leinhos. RAH!!!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Pedal powered PA-looping system?! I guess you couldn&#39;t<br>
&gt; pedal and have your feet free to push the buttons though!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Funny you should mention it... I once played around with a<br>
&gt; modification to an exercise bike that would govern tempo (or<br>
&gt; any CC value) based on the front wheel speed and and send<br>
&gt; separate MIDI CC messages based on cycle counts of the front<br>
&gt; wheel.=A0 It wasn&#39;t pedal powered per se, but it was<br>
&gt; pedal controlled.=A0 It could easily be adapted to<br>
&gt; generate low voltage too. (Never mind the crazy project had<br>
&gt; me trying to do this.) This device, and several other wacky<br>
&gt; controller concepts are all shoved in a corner of my attic<br>
&gt; now.=A0 Perhaps after the apocalypse and rapture I&#39;ll get<br>
&gt; around to making some post apocalyptic blues music with<br>
&gt; them.=A0 Or..=A0 I could just burn in hell with the<br>
&gt; rest of the laggards.=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Eternal hell fire... thats a kind of looping right?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Daniel<br>
&gt; On=A0 May 18, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Steve Uccello wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Benton PUD!! I used to live in Spokane and always<br>
&gt; drove thru that neck of the woods back &amp; forth from<br>
&gt; Santa Cruz, CA, I remember on tour once in Idaho coming<br>
&gt; across a town that claimed proudly to be the &#39;first in the<br>
&gt; USA&#39; to have a nuclear power plant, it had a trippy vibe. I<br>
&gt; keep hearing Thorium is the &#39;safe&#39; way to go with nuclear<br>
&gt; power, but if push comes to shove, can we invent a pedal<br>
&gt; powered PA-looping system?! I guess you couldn&#39;t pedal and<br>
&gt; have your feet free to push the buttons though!<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; --- On Wed, 5/18/11, bill bigrig &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:billbigrig=
@yahoo.com">billbigrig@yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; From: bill bigrig &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:billbigrig@yahoo.com"=
>billbigrig@yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; Subject: Peter Leinhos etc.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">lo=
opers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 4:30 PM<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; Howdy,<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; Come to the Tri-cities in WA. No flouride. Might<br>
&gt; find some<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; plutonium, cesium, strontium, and other<br>
&gt; trans-uranic type<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; stuff Though.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; Rig<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div><a hre=
f=3D"mailto:jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com" target=3D"_blank">jenko.nashorn@g=
ooglemail.com</a></div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/nashorn" target=3D"_blank">www.myspa=
ce.com/nashorn</a></div><br>
</div>

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Hoi boyz,
if u were to pick the smallest most portable hardware keyboard synth
with really nice qualitiy strings,vintage pianos,organs etc. which one
would it be?
here is one ive been looking at

http://www.korg.com/microkorg


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awesome!

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 3:33 PM, boost <boost@boosterized.com> wrote:
> Hey loopers !
> hope you're fine.
> here's a new video, guitar and flute looping improvisation.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVrxo84Xm0c
> hope you'll like it...
> boost
>
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> hey boost,
> im a fan of your work man!

thanks ! :)

> but be kind to explain the proccess,we are here to learn,i also use
> the EDP,in this example are you just randomly doing replace?

yes , i use a lot of quantized-sus-replace, not really randomly :)
in this impro, there is 3 parts (3 tempos) and i use the =
unrounded-multiply to go from one tempo to another.


> how about the flutist? does he have his own EDP and you are brother
> syncing them?

yes, in this case i use 2 EDP brother-synced. one for guitar that goes =
into an amp, and another for the flute that goes on the mix-board.=20


> what dou you use as foot controllers?

i use a custom-made (by me !) midi foot controller. 30 footswitches and =
almost all the functions of the echoplex.
i can select on what midi channel i send message, so i can control one =
echoplex or two or more...


> thanx man
> Luis
>=20
> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 3:33 PM, boost <boost@boosterized.com> wrote:
>> Hey loopers !
>> hope you're fine.
>> here's a new video, guitar and flute looping improvisation.
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DYVrxo84Xm0c
>> hope you'll like it...
>> boost
>>
>>
>=20
>=20
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> --=20
> www.luis-angulo.com
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>i use a custom-made (by =
me !) midi=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>i can select on what =
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Howdy,

 Yes, the Idaho town would be Arco. The city water there comes from one of the rivers that disappears in the north, and comes back up down south. The best municipal water I've EVER tasted. Cold, crisp, and refreshingRig

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Hi Louie,

if you can spend a little more money, have a look at the Korg R3. It has
full-sized keys, not the mini-keys of the Microkorg.


2011/5/19 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>

> Hoi boyz,
> if u were to pick the smallest most portable hardware keyboard synth
> with really nice qualitiy strings,vintage pianos,organs etc. which one
> would it be?
> here is one ive been looking at
>
> http://www.korg.com/microkorg
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Hi Louie,<div><br></div><div>if you can spend a little more money, have a l=
ook at the Korg R3. It has full-sized keys, not the mini-keys of the Microk=
org.</div><div><br></div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/5/19 Loui=
e Angulo <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:louie.angulo@googlemail.co=
m">louie.angulo@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Hoi boyz,<br>
if u were to pick the smallest most portable hardware keyboard synth<br>
with really nice qualitiy strings,vintage pianos,organs etc. which one<br>
would it be?<br>
here is one ive been looking at<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.korg.com/microkorg" target=3D"_blank">http://www.korg=
.com/microkorg</a><br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
<br>
--<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.luis-angulo.com" target=3D"_blank">www.luis-angulo.co=
m</a><br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div><a href=3D"=
mailto:jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com" target=3D"_blank">jenko.nashorn@google=
mail.com</a></div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/nashorn" target=3D"_blank">www.myspa=
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Bike powered PA! Cool!!

What I was wondering lately is whether you could live stream on wifi and hav=
e the crowd listen on their smartphone or whatever wifi device they had on h=
and, kind of like silent stage some events have now with wireless headphones=
.=20

I have no idea how the bandwidth and such would work out.....

Andy o=

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I'm selling my echoplex. Need to catch up on bills. Please buy. Even if you
have one, if you want to buy another one or know someone that's interested,
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I&#39;m selling my echoplex. Need to catch up on bills. Please buy. Even if you have one, if you want to buy another one or know someone that&#39;s interested, please let them know.<br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Sincerely,<br>
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i need a good filter.  primarily for synth filtering.  for space reasons,
i'm leaning toward software...are there any out there that do a good job?  i
get the impression that something like a filter belongs exclusively in the
analog/hardware domain but going that route will necessitate upgrading my
rme multiface as it's already completely full...i'd need another one or
something bigger.

thanks.

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i need a good filter.=A0 primarily for synth filtering.=A0 for space reason=
s, i&#39;m leaning toward software...are there any out there that do a good=
 job?=A0 i get the impression that something like a filter belongs exclusiv=
ely in the analog/hardware domain but going that route will necessitate upg=
rading my rme multiface as it&#39;s already completely full...i&#39;d need =
another one or something bigger.=A0 <br>
<br>thanks.<br><br>- jim<br>

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Hey, the smallest alternatively powered PA would be wind powered, the wind/a=
ir would come out of your instrument, travel to the ear of the listener, be r=
outed to the eardrum, then routed by nerves to the brain, and converted to n=
erve signals in the legs causing herky jerky movements sometimes called danc=
ing. Man I wonder if I could patent that?????

Andy o


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I found a webpage of the pedal-powered band: http://gingerninjas.com/
<http://gingerninjas.com/>

2011/5/19 Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com>

> Bike powered PA! Cool!!
> [...]




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I found a webpage of the pedal-powered band:=A0<a href=3D"http://gingerninj=
as.com/">http://gingerninjas.com/</a><div><a href=3D"http://gingerninjas.co=
m/"></a><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/5/19 Andy Owens <span dir=
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</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Bike powered PA! Cool!!<br>[...]
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div><a href=3D"mailto:=
jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com" target=3D"_blank">jenko.nashorn@googlemail.co=
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Now THAT is a cool Pop-Pop!

;)

> Just happens that I am in the process of building a WSG for my
> grand-daughter -- she asked me to paint the box yellow with purple
> lettering.  :)
>
>
> Quoting legion@helpwantedproductions.com:
>
>> The MFOS Weird Sound Generator is based on the CD40106 (or 74C14) IC.
>> This design taps various outputs on it to make the dual VCO/LFO
>> inter-modulating madness that makes the WSG go and then adds a very ni=
ce
>> analog filter and some extras to make it one of the coolest and most
>> complete designs I have seen incorporating a 40106.
>>
>> D_
>>
>>
>>
>>> Howdy, Is the weird sound generator based on a SN74677 or that sound
>> chip? (not sure if the number is exactly right. Thanx Rig
>>>
>>
>>>> Pictures, links to some video, and full info up at:
>>>> http://daedsound.com/Salez/FS.htm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1. DAED made Music From Outer Space Weird Sound Generator
>>>> (WSG) - $200
>>>> Built by DAEDSound.com into a cool GI Joe metal lunch box
>>>> with on/off
>>>> volume knob, 1/4" output, and additional sound mods in
>>>> addition to all the
>>>> original MFOS WSG functionality. This one of a kind unit
>>>> runs off a 9vt
>>>> battery and is ready to bleeping rock.
>>>>
>>>> Full info and audio samples of the Weird Sound Generator
>>>> at:
>>>> http://www.musicfromouterspace.com/mfosweb/synthdiy.action?PROJARG=3D=
WSG2010/wsg_page1.html&findProjectMode=3DBYURI&MAINTAB=3DSYNTHDIY&CATPART=
NO=3DWSGPREBUILT
>>
>>
>>
>>      ---------------------------------------
>>      NEW DAED SITE!!  -  Http://DaedSound.com
>>  DAED: Circuit Bent and Unusual Sound Devices
>> "Making Something Extrodinary from the Ordinary"
>>
>>       Music and More at the Mothership:
>>     Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com
>>
>>
>


--=20
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     NEW DAED SITE!!  -  Http://DaedSound.com
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"Making Something Extrodinary from the Ordinary"

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can anyone comment on this? my trusty old Edirol R-09 has this problem: when
I plug an external stereo microphone in the mic in, the result is mono. The
plug seems to have some kind of short circuit. Any idea what to do? it isn't
the kind of box you take apart spontaneously to fix the problem.

-Michael

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hey Michael,
are u sure the problem is not the stereo jack from the mic itself?
thats usually the case,i have the Edirol as well and hanvent had that
problem,very reliable till now.
Luis

On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
> can anyone comment on this? my trusty old Edirol R-09 has this problem: when
> I plug an external stereo microphone in the mic in, the result is mono. The
> plug seems to have some kind of short circuit. Any idea what to do? it isn't
> the kind of box you take apart spontaneously to fix the problem.
>
> -Michael
>
>



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is Peter still out of the office?
hello?

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>
> =A0Yes, the Idaho town would be Arco. The city water there comes from one=
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i was just checking out the demo on youtube,im not really into those
trance sounds but its size is nice.
cheers
Luis

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> Hi Louie,
> if you can spend a little more money, have a look at the Korg R3. It has
> full-sized keys, not the mini-keys of the Microkorg.
>
> 2011/5/19 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
>>
>> Hoi boyz,
>> if u were to pick the smallest most portable hardware keyboard synth
>> with really nice qualitiy strings,vintage pianos,organs etc. which one
>> would it be?
>> here is one ive been looking at
>>
>> http://www.korg.com/microkorg
>>
>>
>> --
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>
>
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The trance sounds are just a part of what's possible (I strongly dilike
them, too). There are some youtube videos that show other sounds (like this
one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4Ho8b9h2cU)


2011/5/19 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>

> i was just checking out the demo on youtube,im not really into those
> trance sounds but its size is nice.
> cheers
> Luis
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Johannes Korn
> <jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Louie,
> > if you can spend a little more money, have a look at the Korg R3. It has
> > full-sized keys, not the mini-keys of the Microkorg.
> >
> > 2011/5/19 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
> >>
> >> Hoi boyz,
> >> if u were to pick the smallest most portable hardware keyboard synth
> >> with really nice qualitiy strings,vintage pianos,organs etc. which one
> >> would it be?
> >> here is one ive been looking at
> >>
> >> http://www.korg.com/microkorg
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> www.luis-angulo.com
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com
> > www.myspace.com/nashorn
> >
>
>
>
> --
> www.luis-angulo.com
>
>


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The trance sounds are just a part of what&#39;s possible (I strongly dilike=
 them, too). There are some youtube videos that show other sounds (like thi=
s one:=A0<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dx4Ho8b9h2cU">http://ww=
w.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dx4Ho8b9h2cU</a>)<div>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/5/19 Louie Angulo <span dir=3D"ltr"=
>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:louie.angulo@googlemail.com">louie.angulo@googlemail=
.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 =
0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
i was just checking out the demo on youtube,im not really into those<br>
trance sounds but its size is nice.<br>
cheers<br>
Luis<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Johannes Korn<br>
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com">jenko.nashorn@googlemai=
l.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Hi Louie,<br>
&gt; if you can spend a little more money, have a look at the Korg R3. It h=
as<br>
&gt; full-sized keys, not the mini-keys of the Microkorg.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 2011/5/19 Louie Angulo &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:louie.angulo@googlemail.c=
om">louie.angulo@googlemail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Hoi boyz,<br>
&gt;&gt; if u were to pick the smallest most portable hardware keyboard syn=
th<br>
&gt;&gt; with really nice qualitiy strings,vintage pianos,organs etc. which=
 one<br>
&gt;&gt; would it be?<br>
&gt;&gt; here is one ive been looking at<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.korg.com/microkorg" target=3D"_blank">http:/=
/www.korg.com/microkorg</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.luis-angulo.com" target=3D"_blank">www.luis-=
angulo.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com">jenko.nashorn@googlema=
il.com</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/nashorn" target=3D"_blank">www.myspa=
ce.com/nashorn</a><br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</div></div><font color=3D"#888888">--<br>
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m</a><br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div><a href=3D"=
mailto:jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com" target=3D"_blank">jenko.nashorn@google=
mail.com</a></div>
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I have great experiences of Volcano by FabFilter.
http://www.fabfilter.com/products/volcano.php

Used it quite a lot on Sub City 2064
http://erdemhelvacioglu-perboysen.bandcamp.com/album/sub-city-2064
The bass line on track 2, Metal Sky, is my alto flute through a
loooong chain of plugins but with the final touch set by the Volcano
(just on example...)

Before computers caught up I used an AKAI MFC42, analog hardware filterbank=
.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 3:35 PM, james fowler <twostroke@gmail.com> wrote:
> i need a good filter.=C2=A0 primarily for synth filtering.=C2=A0 for spac=
e reasons,
> i'm leaning toward software...are there any out there that do a good job?=
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> get the impression that something like a filter belongs exclusively in th=
e
> analog/hardware domain but going that route will necessitate upgrading my
> rme multiface as it's already completely full...i'd need another one or
> something bigger.
>
> thanks.
>
> - jim
>

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james fowler schrieb:
> i need a good filter.  primarily for synth filtering.  for space 
> reasons, i'm leaning toward software...are there any out there that do 
> a good job?  i get the impression that something like a filter belongs 
> exclusively in the analog/hardware domain but going that route will 
> necessitate upgrading my rme multiface as it's already completely 
> full...i'd need another one or something bigger. 
What exactly are you trying to do filter-wise? Is it more of studio or 
live oriented? Do you want filters for some synths specifically, to 
complement their own filters etc.?
(I'm also asking because as everything can be considered a "filter" in 
some way).

But before we dive into a deep analysis of your application, here's one:
http://www.ohmforce.com/ViewProduct.do?p=QuadFrohmage

You never go wrong with ohmforce (in my experience).

          Rainer

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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Louie Angulo wrote:
> Hoi boyz,
> if u were to pick the smallest most portable hardware keyboard synth
> with really nice qualitiy strings,vintage pianos,organs etc. which one
> would it be?
> here is one ive been looking at
I have and enjoy the microkorg, but it does NOT have quality strings, 
vintage pianos or organs in it......repeat  does NOT have those sounds.
It's an analogue synth simulation that is pretty good for the price
(with a nifty vocoder and mic thrown in for good measure) and has
no samples of traditional keyboards in it.

rick walker

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On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Rainer Straschill
<moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
> But before we dive into a deep analysis of your application, here's one:
> http://www.ohmforce.com/ViewProduct.do?p=QuadFrohmage
>
> You never go wrong with ohmforce (in my experience).
>


I agree with Rainer that QuadFrohmage is cool. If talking software
filterbanks of today  my own favorite is the N2O
http://www.pspaudioware.com/plugins/multimode_effects/psp_n2o/

Per Boysen

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Louie Angulo schrieb:
> Hoi boyz,
> if u were to pick the smallest most portable hardware keyboard synth
> with really nice qualitiy strings,vintage pianos,organs etc. which one
> would it be?
> here is one ive been looking at
>
> http://www.korg.com/microkorg
>   
With your wide array of required sounds (especially notice the "etc."), 
I wouldn't go for a Microkorg, simply because that's very much focussed 
on virtual analog/MS20-style sound synthesis (which Rick already pointed out before I sent this msg.)

The same is, to a lesser degree, true for the M-Audio Venom (discussed 
in-depth on this list some time ago: 
http://loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/201102/msg00132.html): 
http://de.m-audio.com/products/de_de/Venom.html - which is also a little 
bit bigger.
A similar concept, albeit with smaller keyboard, is found in Novation's 
Xio: http://www.novationmusic.com/products/hardware_synths/xio

In short: if you want to get a really huge bandwidth of sounds, in my 
experience it makes sense to go for something sample-waveform-based, and 
that is usually not the case for the really small keyboards.
Alternative: get a small and inexpensive MIDI masterkeyboard (for 
sub-€100) and a small sound module, something like Roland Sound Canvas 
series, which are really jack-of-all-trades sound generators. E.g. this 
http://www.roland.com/products/en/SD-20/specs.html, or this 
http://www.roland.com/products/en/SonicCell/index.html

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I asked my hardcore-guitar effect, guitar player friend who has done all
kind of modifications, his answer was that there is little left to do.

Maybe somebody else has different opinion?
I accepted his and went to another looper, RC-30, switches are soooo quiet.

:-)


2011/5/18 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>

> anybody has recomendations on quiet switches that would work for the
> Digitech Jamman stereo?
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Petri Lahtinen
> <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
> > My main point of getting rid of it were the LOUD switches, and I dont
> have
> > Leopard OS on my Mac's.
> > If it reads "Windows XP" on the box, then it shoulda work on XP ;-)
> > I tested it with Windows 7, in the store that took it back and gave me
> the
> > RC-30, it worked fine on Win7 too.
> >
> > I just dont want to upgrade all my computers when I'm using one 300 e
> worth
> > piece of machine.
> >
> > 2011/5/17 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
> >>
> >> I hear you Petri i was having problems with the software as well on
> >> the macbook and then i tried it on the imac and it works quite well,so
> >> thats another reason i decided to keep it.
> >> cheers
> >> Luis
> >>
> >> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Petri Lahtinen
> >> <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > ("vast sea to dive in" was the sentence....)
> >> >
> >> > 2011/5/15 Petri Lahtinen <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com>
> >> >>
> >> >> I think many limitations with these hardware loopers can be turned
> into
> >> >> possibilities.
> >> >>
> >> >> I myself want limitations, the music itself is so vast se to dive in
> >> >> :-D
> >> >>
> >> >> Or maybe I'm just losing my friggin mind...
> >> >>
> >> >> Louie->The software on Digitech stopped working on my XP-machine, so
> >> >> the
> >> >> unit became a piece of metal to me. RC-30's memory, you can access it
> >> >> as a
> >> >> norma USB-memory.
> >> >> No software needed. I think Digitech made a huge mistake by closing
> the
> >> >> JamMan Stereo's memory by making it accessible only with their piece
> of
> >> >> ****
> >> >> software, that's programmed on Microsoft Silverlight, which is a joke
> >> >> in
> >> >> itself.
> >> >>
> >> >> Sorry, a quite a burst of sentiment, but those are MHO's, at this
> time.
> >> >>
> >> >> :-D
> >> >>
> >> >> -Petri-
> >> >>
> >> >> 2011/5/15 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hi Petr,
> >> >>> yes i tried it but decided to keep the Digitech for what i do,it
> would
> >> >>> have been nice if those 2 independent tracks could be different in
> >> >>> length as if u multiplied so i really didnt see much of an advantage
> >> >>> i didnt like that you had to press undo for 2 seconds or to change
> >> >>> parts without the switch,for what i do is a bit tedious since im
> >> >>> singing as well.
> >> >>> But the switches are really nice,i might have the Digis changed for
> >> >>> quieter ones!
> >> >>> Luis
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Petri Lahtinen
> >> >>> <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>> > Hi Louie!
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > I bought the RC-30 and its really good.
> >> >>> > Silent switches, two tracks, the extra footswitch is small and
> >> >>> > fitted
> >> >>> > my
> >> >>> > pedalboard well.
> >> >>> > (FS-6) and with it you can do everything with feet. Well, not
> start
> >> >>> > the
> >> >>> > rhythms, I mean the unit's own drum machine, that is.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > I dont do ABC or any other song forms nowadays, so I dont mind the
> >> >>> > undo's 2
> >> >>> > sec thing.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > I'm really pleased with it, it surely fills my small needs as a
> >> >>> > looping
> >> >>> > device.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > -Petri-
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > 2011/4/27 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Hi Petri,
> >> >>> >> how funny that im doing the same thing!
> >> >>> >> You arer absolutely right,that software is anoying,im preparing
> for
> >> >>> >> a
> >> >>> >> gig this saturday and it took me almost an hour to get some
> samples
> >> >>> >> transfered to the Digitech from their flimsy software,there is a
> >> >>> >> new
> >> >>> >> firmware version which i installed prior to working with it,i
> dont
> >> >>> >> know what that is meant for,i started importing wav files and in
> >> >>> >> the
> >> >>> >> middle of working it crashed bad and lost it all, so i had to
> >> >>> >> restart
> >> >>> >> again.Prior to that i was rehearsing with it and as i was
> scrolling
> >> >>> >> through the samples the digitech froze and cound not get it to do
> >> >>> >> anything so i reboot it and found out i had lost every other
> sample
> >> >>> >> in
> >> >>> >> a slot,luckly i had made a jam list backup so i retransfered all
> >> >>> >> the
> >> >>> >> files.
> >> >>> >> what i do like about the digitech is the easy of scrolling
> through
> >> >>> >> the
> >> >>> >> samples,but that switch click is so loud that it gets recorded
> >> >>> >> everytime i loop anything(i have my mic going into the loops as
> >> >>> >> well)
> >> >>> >> I dont know why they replaced the old switches,they seem a lot
> >> >>> >> quieter, think the Boss-RC30 will be better in that department.
> >> >>> >> oh dont waste your time trying to call them or suggest
> >> >>> >> improvements,their support is nada!
> >> >>> >> Im also getting the RC-30 perhaps today or tomorrow to try out,im
> >> >>> >> just
> >> >>> >> using this for small pedalboard type of bar gigs and no racks,the
> >> >>> >> RC-30 has an essential feature for me like the independent
> >> >>> >> tracks,is
> >> >>> >> too bad they didnt assign the undo/redo with the footswitch like
> >> >>> >> the
> >> >>> >> Digitech has,you still have to step on it 2 seconds impractical
> if
> >> >>> >> u
> >> >>> >> want ot do A-B arrangments grrr!
> >> >>> >> oh well lets see if it beats the Digi
> >> >>> >> cheers
> >> >>> >> Luis
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Petri Lahtinen
> >> >>> >> <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>> >> > Hi and thanks to everybody for your responses!
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > BUT it seems that RC-50 is not available here in Finland,
> >> >>> >> > anymore.
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > The Roland headquarters is Denmark that supply gear to Nordic
> >> >>> >> > countries
> >> >>> >> > had
> >> >>> >> > replied to my store, that they dont have any RC-50's there.
> >> >>> >> > The chain of stores I use here in Finland, doesnt have not one
> >> >>> >> > unit
> >> >>> >> > here. So
> >> >>> >> > will it become a discontinued product that gets replaced by the
> >> >>> >> > new
> >> >>> >> > RC-30...
> >> >>> >> > who knows...?
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > SO I'm getting the new RC-30 for test drive next week.
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > Looking at the manual, it seems pretty straightforward unit.
> Need
> >> >>> >> > extra
> >> >>> >> > footswitch, which is always annoying.
> >> >>> >> > Probably nobody on the list doesnt have one of those, cause its
> >> >>> >> > so
> >> >>> >> > new
> >> >>> >> > unit?
> >> >>> >> > Think it was 2011 January when the first units shipped.
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > -Petri-
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > 2011/4/26 Victor Eijkhout <victor@eijkhout.net>
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> On Apr 25, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote:
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> > Were there RC-50 users on the list?
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> Check. Just bought it a month ago so I'm still learning. Fun
> toy
> >> >>> >> >> though.
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> Victor.
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > --
> >> >>> >> > Petri Lahtinen
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> --
> >> >>> >> www.luis-angulo.com
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > --
> >> >>> > Petri Lahtinen
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> www.luis-angulo.com
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Petri Lahtinen
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.petrilahtinen.com
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Petri Lahtinen
> >> >
> >> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> www.luis-angulo.com
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Petri Lahtinen
> >
> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
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I asked my hardcore-guitar effect, guitar player friend who has done all ki=
nd of modifications, his answer was that there is little left to do.<br><br=
>Maybe somebody else has different opinion?<br>I accepted his and went to a=
nother looper, RC-30, switches are soooo quiet.<br>
<br>:-)<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/5/18 Louie Angulo <span =
dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:louie.angulo@googlemail.com">louie.angulo=
@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); p=
adding-left: 1ex;">
anybody has recomendations on quiet switches that would work for the<br>
Digitech Jamman stereo?<br>
<br>
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Petri Lahtinen<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kollegavalmentaja@g=
mail.com">kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; My main point of getting rid of it were the LOUD switches, and I dont =
have<br>
&gt; Leopard OS on my Mac&#39;s.<br>
&gt; If it reads &quot;Windows XP&quot; on the box, then it shoulda work on=
 XP ;-)<br>
&gt; I tested it with Windows 7, in the store that took it back and gave me=
 the<br>
&gt; RC-30, it worked fine on Win7 too.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I just dont want to upgrade all my computers when I&#39;m using one 30=
0 e worth<br>
&gt; piece of machine.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 2011/5/17 Louie Angulo &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:louie.angulo@googlemail.c=
om">louie.angulo@googlemail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I hear you Petri i was having problems with the software as well o=
n<br>
&gt;&gt; the macbook and then i tried it on the imac and it works quite wel=
l,so<br>
&gt;&gt; thats another reason i decided to keep it.<br>
&gt;&gt; cheers<br>
&gt;&gt; Luis<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Petri Lahtinen<br>
&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com">kollegavalmenta=
ja@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; (&quot;vast sea to dive in&quot; was the sentence....)<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; 2011/5/15 Petri Lahtinen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kollegavalment=
aja@gmail.com">kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; I think many limitations with these hardware loopers can =
be turned into<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; possibilities.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; I myself want limitations, the music itself is so vast se=
 to dive in<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; :-D<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Or maybe I&#39;m just losing my friggin mind...<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Louie-&gt;The software on Digitech stopped working on my =
XP-machine, so<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; the<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; unit became a piece of metal to me. RC-30&#39;s memory, y=
ou can access it<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; as a<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; norma USB-memory.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; No software needed. I think Digitech made a huge mistake =
by closing the<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; JamMan Stereo&#39;s memory by making it accessible only w=
ith their piece of<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; ****<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; software, that&#39;s programmed on Microsoft Silverlight,=
 which is a joke<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; in<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; itself.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Sorry, a quite a burst of sentiment, but those are MHO&#3=
9;s, at this time.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; :-D<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; -Petri-<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 2011/5/15 Louie Angulo &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:louie.angulo=
@googlemail.com">louie.angulo@googlemail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Hi Petr,<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; yes i tried it but decided to keep the Digitech for w=
hat i do,it would<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; have been nice if those 2 independent tracks could be=
 different in<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; length as if u multiplied so i really didnt see much =
of an advantage<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; i didnt like that you had to press undo for 2 seconds=
 or to change<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; parts without the switch,for what i do is a bit tedio=
us since im<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; singing as well.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; But the switches are really nice,i might have the Dig=
is changed for<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; quieter ones!<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Luis<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Petri Lahtinen<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com">ko=
llegavalmentaja@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Hi Louie!<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; I bought the RC-30 and its really good.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Silent switches, two tracks, the extra footswitc=
h is small and<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; fitted<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; my<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; pedalboard well.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; (FS-6) and with it you can do everything with fe=
et. Well, not start<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; the<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; rhythms, I mean the unit&#39;s own drum machine,=
 that is.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; I dont do ABC or any other song forms nowadays, =
so I dont mind the<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; undo&#39;s 2<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; sec thing.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; I&#39;m really pleased with it, it surely fills =
my small needs as a<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; looping<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; device.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; -Petri-<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; 2011/4/27 Louie Angulo &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lou=
ie.angulo@googlemail.com">louie.angulo@googlemail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Hi Petri,<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; how funny that im doing the same thing!<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; You arer absolutely right,that software is a=
noying,im preparing for<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; a<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; gig this saturday and it took me almost an h=
our to get some samples<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; transfered to the Digitech from their flimsy=
 software,there is a<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; new<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; firmware version which i installed prior to =
working with it,i dont<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; know what that is meant for,i started import=
ing wav files and in<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; the<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; middle of working it crashed bad and lost it=
 all, so i had to<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; restart<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; again.Prior to that i was rehearsing with it=
 and as i was scrolling<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; through the samples the digitech froze and c=
ound not get it to do<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; anything so i reboot it and found out i had =
lost every other sample<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; in<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; a slot,luckly i had made a jam list backup s=
o i retransfered all<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; the<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; files.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; what i do like about the digitech is the eas=
y of scrolling through<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; the<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; samples,but that switch click is so loud tha=
t it gets recorded<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; everytime i loop anything(i have my mic goin=
g into the loops as<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; well)<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; I dont know why they replaced the old switch=
es,they seem a lot<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; quieter, think the Boss-RC30 will be better =
in that department.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; oh dont waste your time trying to call them =
or suggest<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; improvements,their support is nada!<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Im also getting the RC-30 perhaps today or t=
omorrow to try out,im<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; just<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; using this for small pedalboard type of bar =
gigs and no racks,the<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; RC-30 has an essential feature for me like t=
he independent<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; tracks,is<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; too bad they didnt assign the undo/redo with=
 the footswitch like<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; the<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Digitech has,you still have to step on it 2 =
seconds impractical if<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; u<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; want ot do A-B arrangments grrr!<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; oh well lets see if it beats the Digi<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; cheers<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Luis<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Petri Lahti=
nen<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kollegavalmentaja@gmai=
l.com">kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Hi and thanks to everybody for your res=
ponses!<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; BUT it seems that RC-50 is not availabl=
e here in Finland,<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; anymore.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; The Roland headquarters is Denmark that=
 supply gear to Nordic<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; countries<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; had<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; replied to my store, that they dont hav=
e any RC-50&#39;s there.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; The chain of stores I use here in Finla=
nd, doesnt have not one<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; unit<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; here. So<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; will it become a discontinued product t=
hat gets replaced by the<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; new<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; RC-30...<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; who knows...?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; SO I&#39;m getting the new RC-30 for te=
st drive next week.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Looking at the manual, it seems pretty =
straightforward unit. Need<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; extra<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; footswitch, which is always annoying.<b=
r>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Probably nobody on the list doesnt have=
 one of those, cause its<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; so<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; new<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; unit?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Think it was 2011 January when the firs=
t units shipped.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; -Petri-<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; 2011/4/26 Victor Eijkhout &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:victor@eijkhout.net">victor@eijkhout.net</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; On Apr 25, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Petri =
Lahtinen wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Were there RC-50 users on the =
list?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Check. Just bought it a month ago s=
o I&#39;m still learning. Fun toy<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; though.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Victor.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; --<br>
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&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
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&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Petri Lahtinen<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; <a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tp://www.petrilahtinen.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
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&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.luis-angulo.com" target=3D"_blank">www.luis-=
angulo.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
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&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.=
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&gt;<br>
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I just saw Alessandro Cortini (formerly of NIN) as part of an improv
trio last week, and the only piece of equipment he used was one of
these:
http://www.teenageengineering.com/now/category/op-1/

The Teenage Engineering OP-1. I'm not quite sure if it's a synth, or a
sampler or both (I think both), but it's a standalone piece of
hardware. About 8 of these would fit inside a MicroKorg.

Despite its small size and keys that are not keys, it seemed to have a
great user interface. The display screen is a touch screen. One of the
things you can do is have it show your sample as a reel to reel tape,
and you can manually "manipulate" the wheels as it goes.

$800 bucks. Currently sold out. Good luck!


-- 
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
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On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 12:58 AM, Louie Angulo
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> Hoi boyz,
> if u were to pick the smallest most portable hardware keyboard synth
> with really nice qualitiy strings,vintage pianos,organs etc. which one
> would it be?
> here is one ive been looking at
>
> http://www.korg.com/microkorg
>
>
> --
> www.luis-angulo.com
>
>

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btw, I have a MicroKorg. I'm generally happy with it.

Admittedly, I'm quite the noob when it comes to synthesizers. I'm
probably only doing about 5-10% of what this synth does.

My only complaint is that most of the synthesizer controls are not
readily available -  You can control ASDR, or LFOs, or a low pass
filter, but not all at the same time. You have to use a matrix menu to
choose what the knobs do. If I were buying a synth now, I might get
something like the Roland Gaia SH-01 instead. It's a little bigger,
but it has more dedicated controls.

Pros:
--Small keyboard: Easy to play with 1 hand.
--It's possible to tweak some settings while playing
--the mod wheel can be assigned to do different things. (I usually
have mine set as a band pass filter.)
--Synth sounds are pretty good.
--Lots of presets for string sounds, organ sounds, etc.
--All of the synthesizer parameters that I can think of are
represented - 2 oscillators, asdr, lfos, band pass filters, portamento
speed, monophonic/polyphonic, etc.
--Octave up and Octave down keys are easy to use and intuitive -
expanding the range of the keyboard for most users.

Cons:
--In order to change some settings, you need to dial the settings up
on a matrix (which is hard to read in most band settings). This
assigns the controls of the 4 knobs.
--About 1/2 of the presets are for stereotypical "techno" sounds or
auto-arpeggiator sounds which I would never use.
--I don't believe the keys are velocity sensitive. (I could be wrong -
I don't remember)
--Power source is a wall-wart.

-- 
Matt Davignon
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Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt


On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 12:58 AM, Louie Angulo
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> Hoi boyz,
> if u were to pick the smallest most portable hardware keyboard synth
> with really nice qualitiy strings,vintage pianos,organs etc. which one
> would it be?
> here is one ive been looking at
>
> http://www.korg.com/microkorg
>
>
> --
> www.luis-angulo.com
>
>

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will the scramble function  be featured in the LP2 as well?

On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark francombe wrote:
>
>> Wel, no... Edp doesnt scramble, but audibly, one could say the effect
>> sounds like a standard quantise subtitute. Of course then you have to
>> build the chunks yourself,
>>
> Though the two have that square wave slicing sound,  what I like about
> Scramble is
> that you can constantly randomize your loops.
>
> It suddenly occurred to me that if you just set up these two commands in a
> row, that
> you can constantly keep randomizing what your little sub pulse goodies will
> sound like.
>
> First,  take a scramble your track:   The use simple command:
>
> 1 =  Fast Scamble (this takes your original scrambled track out of
> scramble)
> 2 =  Fast Scramble (rescrambles with a new randomization)............
>
> By then using Bounce you can then listen to what is spit out and constrain
> it to what ever time signature
> you'd like by truncating the bounce when you achieve the sub pulse you want
> and the original track
> turns itself off.
>
> If your timing is really accurate (and there is no better way to improve
> timing than to practice constraining a
> fast or medium scramble to a new time signature)  then by applying the
> exact Q-quantization for using
> Q-replace you can then 'customize' your new ostinato rhythm.
>
> A cool thing to do it is to cut silence slices into your loop so you can
> get more of an 'African' paradigm to
> your ostinato loop.
>
> I was over at Bill's last night and he was doing wicked stuff by constantly
> introducing new material (constrained with
> digital delays,  feedback reduction,  Q-replace)    It was really beautiful
> where he's taking this stuff.
>
> Also, if you think about it,    if you Fast Scramble your track, then you
> have a whole series of wav forms whose volumes
> cut abruptly at the boundary of each Scrambled 'slice'.     If you are not
> constraining Scramble to a time signature, then
> every time you do a Q- replace you are introducing new slices that are NOT
> the same size.........and Scrambling them.
>
> This causes a lot of jittery/glitchy goodness in your loop and yet, if you
> constrain what you are playing to fairly fundamental
> harmonic choices,  you have a really nice 'bed' that you can play
> langorously over.
>
> This approximates the Indonesian "Kotekan" paradigm of rhythm creation,
> where every single sub pulse is played in such a way
> that the soloist just soars over the 'percolating' texture of the
> manipulated loop.
>
> Q-replace some silences and you can come up with some cool "Afro-centric"
> syncopations
>
> ps   by the way,  we've got some cool new features planned for adding to
> the LP-1 that should give it some other
> unique qualities (as Mark Hamburg mentioned that he thought Scramble was a
> defining technique that separates the
> LP-1 from other units).
>
> rick walker
>
>

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<br>will the scramble function=A0 be featured in the LP2 as well?<br><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Rick Walker <span=
 dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:looppool@cruzio.com">looppool@cruzio.com=
</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class=3D"im">On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark=
 francombe wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Wel, no... Edp doesnt scramble, but audibly, one could say the effect<br>
sounds like a standard quantise subtitute. Of course then you have to<br>
build the chunks yourself,<br>
</blockquote></div>
Though the two have that square wave slicing sound, =A0what I like about Sc=
ramble is<br>
that you can constantly randomize your loops.<br>
<br>
It suddenly occurred to me that if you just set up these two commands in a =
row, that<br>
you can constantly keep randomizing what your little sub pulse goodies will=
 sound like.<br>
<br>
First, =A0take a scramble your track: =A0 The use simple command:<br>
<br>
1 =3D =A0Fast Scamble (this takes your original scrambled track out of scra=
mble)<br>
2 =3D =A0Fast Scramble (rescrambles with a new randomization)............<b=
r>
<br>
By then using Bounce you can then listen to what is spit out and constrain =
it to what ever time signature<br>
you&#39;d like by truncating the bounce when you achieve the sub pulse you =
want and the original track<br>
turns itself off.<br>
<br>
If your timing is really accurate (and there is no better way to improve ti=
ming than to practice constraining a<br>
fast or medium scramble to a new time signature) =A0then by applying the ex=
act Q-quantization for using<br>
Q-replace you can then &#39;customize&#39; your new ostinato rhythm.<br>
<br>
A cool thing to do it is to cut silence slices into your loop so you can ge=
t more of an &#39;African&#39; paradigm to<br>
your ostinato loop.<br>
<br>
I was over at Bill&#39;s last night and he was doing wicked stuff by consta=
ntly introducing new material (constrained with<br>
digital delays, =A0feedback reduction, =A0Q-replace) =A0 =A0It was really b=
eautiful where he&#39;s taking this stuff.<br>
<br>
Also, if you think about it, =A0 =A0if you Fast Scramble your track, then y=
ou have a whole series of wav forms whose volumes<br>
cut abruptly at the boundary of each Scrambled &#39;slice&#39;. =A0 =A0 If =
you are not constraining Scramble to a time signature, then<br>
every time you do a Q- replace you are introducing new slices that are NOT =
the same size.........and Scrambling them.<br>
<br>
This causes a lot of jittery/glitchy goodness in your loop and yet, if you =
constrain what you are playing to fairly fundamental<br>
harmonic choices, =A0you have a really nice &#39;bed&#39; that you can play=
 langorously over.<br>
<br>
This approximates the Indonesian &quot;Kotekan&quot; paradigm of rhythm cre=
ation, where every single sub pulse is played in such a way<br>
that the soloist just soars over the &#39;percolating&#39; texture of the m=
anipulated loop.<br>
<br>
Q-replace some silences and you can come up with some cool &quot;Afro-centr=
ic&quot; syncopations<br>
<br>
ps =A0 by the way, =A0we&#39;ve got some cool new features planned for addi=
ng to the LP-1 that should give it some other<br>
unique qualities (as Mark Hamburg mentioned that he thought Scramble was a =
defining technique that separates the<br>
LP-1 from other units).<br><font color=3D"#888888">
<br>
rick walker<br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br>

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The op-1 looks fun and futuristic.  The microKorg looks like it has enough
keys to be a traditional functional keyboard but it's odd that it would be
missing such basic sounds.

I've noticed that using a new interface changes the output even though it
seems like it shouldn't.  While the op-1 may have less capacity, using it
probably would evoke invaluable inspiration.

Lindsey

On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com>wrote:

> btw, I have a MicroKorg. I'm generally happy with it.
>
> Admittedly, I'm quite the noob when it comes to synthesizers. I'm
> probably only doing about 5-10% of what this synth does.
>
> My only complaint is that most of the synthesizer controls are not
> readily available -  You can control ASDR, or LFOs, or a low pass
> filter, but not all at the same time. You have to use a matrix menu to
> choose what the knobs do. If I were buying a synth now, I might get
> something like the Roland Gaia SH-01 instead. It's a little bigger,
> but it has more dedicated controls.
>
> Pros:
> --Small keyboard: Easy to play with 1 hand.
> --It's possible to tweak some settings while playing
> --the mod wheel can be assigned to do different things. (I usually
> have mine set as a band pass filter.)
> --Synth sounds are pretty good.
> --Lots of presets for string sounds, organ sounds, etc.
> --All of the synthesizer parameters that I can think of are
> represented - 2 oscillators, asdr, lfos, band pass filters, portamento
> speed, monophonic/polyphonic, etc.
> --Octave up and Octave down keys are easy to use and intuitive -
> expanding the range of the keyboard for most users.
>
> Cons:
> --In order to change some settings, you need to dial the settings up
> on a matrix (which is hard to read in most band settings). This
> assigns the controls of the 4 knobs.
> --About 1/2 of the presets are for stereotypical "techno" sounds or
> auto-arpeggiator sounds which I would never use.
> --I don't believe the keys are velocity sensitive. (I could be wrong -
> I don't remember)
> --Power source is a wall-wart.
>
> --
> Matt Davignon
> mattdavignon@gmail.com
> www.ribosomemusic.com
> Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt
>
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 12:58 AM, Louie Angulo
> <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Hoi boyz,
> > if u were to pick the smallest most portable hardware keyboard synth
> > with really nice qualitiy strings,vintage pianos,organs etc. which one
> > would it be?
> > here is one ive been looking at
> >
> > http://www.korg.com/microkorg
> >
> >
> > --
> > www.luis-angulo.com
> >
> >
>
>

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The op-1 looks fun and futuristic.=A0 The microKorg looks like it has enoug=
h keys to be a traditional functional keyboard but it&#39;s odd that it wou=
ld be missing such basic sounds.=A0 <br><br>I&#39;ve noticed that using a n=
ew interface changes the output even though it seems like it shouldn&#39;t.=
=A0 While the op-1 may have less capacity, using it probably would evoke in=
valuable inspiration.<br>
<br>Lindsey<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 2:31 =
PM, Matt Davignon <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mattdavignon@gmai=
l.com">mattdavignon@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding=
-left:1ex;">
btw, I have a MicroKorg. I&#39;m generally happy with it.<br>
<br>
Admittedly, I&#39;m quite the noob when it comes to synthesizers. I&#39;m<b=
r>
probably only doing about 5-10% of what this synth does.<br>
<br>
My only complaint is that most of the synthesizer controls are not<br>
readily available - =A0You can control ASDR, or LFOs, or a low pass<br>
filter, but not all at the same time. You have to use a matrix menu to<br>
choose what the knobs do. If I were buying a synth now, I might get<br>
something like the Roland Gaia SH-01 instead. It&#39;s a little bigger,<br>
but it has more dedicated controls.<br>
<br>
Pros:<br>
--Small keyboard: Easy to play with 1 hand.<br>
--It&#39;s possible to tweak some settings while playing<br>
--the mod wheel can be assigned to do different things. (I usually<br>
have mine set as a band pass filter.)<br>
--Synth sounds are pretty good.<br>
--Lots of presets for string sounds, organ sounds, etc.<br>
--All of the synthesizer parameters that I can think of are<br>
represented - 2 oscillators, asdr, lfos, band pass filters, portamento<br>
speed, monophonic/polyphonic, etc.<br>
--Octave up and Octave down keys are easy to use and intuitive -<br>
expanding the range of the keyboard for most users.<br>
<br>
Cons:<br>
--In order to change some settings, you need to dial the settings up<br>
on a matrix (which is hard to read in most band settings). This<br>
assigns the controls of the 4 knobs.<br>
--About 1/2 of the presets are for stereotypical &quot;techno&quot; sounds =
or<br>
auto-arpeggiator sounds which I would never use.<br>
--I don&#39;t believe the keys are velocity sensitive. (I could be wrong -<=
br>
I don&#39;t remember)<br>
--Power source is a wall-wart.<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
--<br>
Matt Davignon<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:mattdavignon@gmail.com">mattdavignon@gmail.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.ribosomemusic.com" target=3D"_blank">www.ribosomemusi=
c.com</a><br>
Rigs! <a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt" target=3D"_blank=
">www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt</a><br>
<br>
<br>
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 12:58 AM, Louie Angulo<br>
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:louie.angulo@googlemail.com">louie.angulo@googlemail.=
com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
</div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">&gt; Hoi boyz,<br>
&gt; if u were to pick the smallest most portable hardware keyboard synth<b=
r>
&gt; with really nice qualitiy strings,vintage pianos,organs etc. which one=
<br>
&gt; would it be?<br>
&gt; here is one ive been looking at<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.korg.com/microkorg" target=3D"_blank">http://www=
.korg.com/microkorg</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.luis-angulo.com" target=3D"_blank">www.luis-angu=
lo.com</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br>

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thanks, guys.  allow me to expand/clarify:

i'd like to filter the sounds of my FS1R.  it has filters but they either
don't do what i want or i can't figure them out because the manual sucks and
scrolling through sub-menu after sub-menu is enough to make anybody's brain
melt...not to mention taking the fun out of it.  i'll invariably end up
using it on my obi matrix and roland mks-50 which both feature limited
filters.  i'd like something with an envelope follower (lots of them don't
do this - the filters in reaktor don't, for example).  i'm resolved to fact
that i need to shell out some $$$ for something worth having but wanted to
make sure i'm not barking up the wrong tree trying to find a respectable
piece of software.

i'll give those three a shot.  thanks for the input.

- jim

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thanks, guys.=A0 allow me to expand/clarify:<br>
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=20
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make anybody&#39;s brain melt...not to mention taking the fun out of it.=A0=
=20
i&#39;ll invariably end up using it on my obi matrix and roland mks-50 whic=
h
 both feature limited filters.=A0 i&#39;d like something with an envelope=
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wrong tree trying to find a respectable piece of software.<br>
<br>
i&#39;ll give those three a shot.=A0 thanks for the input.<br>
<br>
- jim<br>

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As far as I can tell, the LP2 does not have the scramble feature.

Phil :)


On May 19, 2011, at 2:34 PM, andy soto wrote:

>=20
> will the scramble function  be featured in the LP2 as well?
>=20
> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> =
wrote:
> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark francombe wrote:
> Wel, no... Edp doesnt scramble, but audibly, one could say the effect
> sounds like a standard quantise subtitute. Of course then you have to
> build the chunks yourself,
> Though the two have that square wave slicing sound,  what I like about =
Scramble is
> that you can constantly randomize your loops.
>=20
> It suddenly occurred to me that if you just set up these two commands =
in a row, that
> you can constantly keep randomizing what your little sub pulse goodies =
will sound like.
>=20
> First,  take a scramble your track:   The use simple command:
>=20
> 1 =3D  Fast Scamble (this takes your original scrambled track out of =
scramble)
> 2 =3D  Fast Scramble (rescrambles with a new =
randomization)............
>=20
> By then using Bounce you can then listen to what is spit out and =
constrain it to what ever time signature
> you'd like by truncating the bounce when you achieve the sub pulse you =
want and the original track
> turns itself off.
>=20
> If your timing is really accurate (and there is no better way to =
improve timing than to practice constraining a
> fast or medium scramble to a new time signature)  then by applying the =
exact Q-quantization for using
> Q-replace you can then 'customize' your new ostinato rhythm.
>=20
> A cool thing to do it is to cut silence slices into your loop so you =
can get more of an 'African' paradigm to
> your ostinato loop.
>=20
> I was over at Bill's last night and he was doing wicked stuff by =
constantly introducing new material (constrained with
> digital delays,  feedback reduction,  Q-replace)    It was really =
beautiful where he's taking this stuff.
>=20
> Also, if you think about it,    if you Fast Scramble your track, then =
you have a whole series of wav forms whose volumes
> cut abruptly at the boundary of each Scrambled 'slice'.     If you are =
not constraining Scramble to a time signature, then
> every time you do a Q- replace you are introducing new slices that are =
NOT the same size.........and Scrambling them.
>=20
> This causes a lot of jittery/glitchy goodness in your loop and yet, if =
you constrain what you are playing to fairly fundamental
> harmonic choices,  you have a really nice 'bed' that you can play =
langorously over.
>=20
> This approximates the Indonesian "Kotekan" paradigm of rhythm =
creation, where every single sub pulse is played in such a way
> that the soloist just soars over the 'percolating' texture of the =
manipulated loop.
>=20
> Q-replace some silences and you can come up with some cool =
"Afro-centric" syncopations
>=20
> ps   by the way,  we've got some cool new features planned for adding =
to the LP-1 that should give it some other
> unique qualities (as Mark Hamburg mentioned that he thought Scramble =
was a defining technique that separates the
> LP-1 from other units).
>=20
> rick walker
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<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">As far as I can tell, the LP2 does not have the scramble feature.<div><br></div><div>Phil :)</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On May 19, 2011, at 2:34 PM, andy soto wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><br>will the scramble function&nbsp; be featured in the LP2 as well?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Rick Walker <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:looppool@cruzio.com">looppool@cruzio.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="im">On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark francombe wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Wel, no... Edp doesnt scramble, but audibly, one could say the effect<br>
sounds like a standard quantise subtitute. Of course then you have to<br>
build the chunks yourself,<br>
</blockquote></div>
Though the two have that square wave slicing sound, &nbsp;what I like about Scramble is<br>
that you can constantly randomize your loops.<br>
<br>
It suddenly occurred to me that if you just set up these two commands in a row, that<br>
you can constantly keep randomizing what your little sub pulse goodies will sound like.<br>
<br>
First, &nbsp;take a scramble your track: &nbsp; The use simple command:<br>
<br>
1 = &nbsp;Fast Scamble (this takes your original scrambled track out of scramble)<br>
2 = &nbsp;Fast Scramble (rescrambles with a new randomization)............<br>
<br>
By then using Bounce you can then listen to what is spit out and constrain it to what ever time signature<br>
you'd like by truncating the bounce when you achieve the sub pulse you want and the original track<br>
turns itself off.<br>
<br>
If your timing is really accurate (and there is no better way to improve timing than to practice constraining a<br>
fast or medium scramble to a new time signature) &nbsp;then by applying the exact Q-quantization for using<br>
Q-replace you can then 'customize' your new ostinato rhythm.<br>
<br>
A cool thing to do it is to cut silence slices into your loop so you can get more of an 'African' paradigm to<br>
your ostinato loop.<br>
<br>
I was over at Bill's last night and he was doing wicked stuff by constantly introducing new material (constrained with<br>
digital delays, &nbsp;feedback reduction, &nbsp;Q-replace) &nbsp; &nbsp;It was really beautiful where he's taking this stuff.<br>
<br>
Also, if you think about it, &nbsp; &nbsp;if you Fast Scramble your track, then you have a whole series of wav forms whose volumes<br>
cut abruptly at the boundary of each Scrambled 'slice'. &nbsp; &nbsp; If you are not constraining Scramble to a time signature, then<br>
every time you do a Q- replace you are introducing new slices that are NOT the same size.........and Scrambling them.<br>
<br>
This causes a lot of jittery/glitchy goodness in your loop and yet, if you constrain what you are playing to fairly fundamental<br>
harmonic choices, &nbsp;you have a really nice 'bed' that you can play langorously over.<br>
<br>
This approximates the Indonesian "Kotekan" paradigm of rhythm creation, where every single sub pulse is played in such a way<br>
that the soloist just soars over the 'percolating' texture of the manipulated loop.<br>
<br>
Q-replace some silences and you can come up with some cool "Afro-centric" syncopations<br>
<br>
ps &nbsp; by the way, &nbsp;we've got some cool new features planned for adding to the LP-1 that should give it some other<br>
unique qualities (as Mark Hamburg mentioned that he thought Scramble was a defining technique that separates the<br>
LP-1 from other units).<br><font color="#888888">
<br>
rick walker<br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br>
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Shameless self-promotion:

I'm not sure if he's released it yet, but I know Matrix (from the 
Matrixsynth blog) was working on a FS1R sysex editor for the iPad + 
Missing Link, which exposes all of the parameters.

There's also a video series that somebody made, and it looks like 
there's a software editor for the FS1R as well: 
http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com/2011/03/grokking-fs1r-part-1-fs1r-spectral.html

-Hans


On 5/19/2011 5:41 PM, james fowler wrote:
> thanks, guys.  allow me to expand/clarify:
>
> i'd like to filter the sounds of my FS1R.  it has filters but they 
> either don't do what i want or i can't figure them out because the 
> manual sucks and scrolling through sub-menu after sub-menu is enough 
> to make anybody's brain melt...not to mention taking the fun out of 
> it.  i'll invariably end up using it on my obi matrix and roland 
> mks-50 which both feature limited filters.  i'd like something with an 
> envelope follower (lots of them don't do this - the filters in reaktor 
> don't, for example).  i'm resolved to fact that i need to shell out 
> some $$$ for something worth having but wanted to make sure i'm not 
> barking up the wrong tree trying to find a respectable piece of software.
>
> i'll give those three a shot.  thanks for the input.
>
> - jim

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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Matt Davignon wrote:
> The Teenage Engineering OP-1. I'm not quite sure if it's a synth, or a
> sampler or both (I think both), but it's a standalone piece of
> hardware. About 8 of these would fit inside a MicroKorg.
I have a friend is an inveterate collector of cool vintage gear.........his
band mate just got one and he's raving about it like it's the 2nd coming 
(wait
that's tomorrow, right?).

I haven't seen it yet, but I've heard great things about this unit.

rick walker

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You know, Luis,  I had a one rack module called
the Alesis QS-R that had a lot of vintage keys in it
along with an assortment of synthesizer sounds
that I found very, very useful.

I even discovered that if I put even a prosaic sounding
distortion box after it, that I could come up with some very
hip, modern industrial sounds out of fairly normal patches.

Also EMU had a series called the Proteus.   Their flagship was the
Proteus 2000 and there are a lot of the for sale on e-bay for around
$250 USD........they just had a zillion useful sounds in them.

for a multi-instrumental live looping artist who wants to augment
his loops on a main instrument they are perfect, really.

A lot of keyboard people would be snobby about them because they didn't 
have the kind of control that a lot of fancy analogue synths had, but 
that wasn't what
they were designed for.   EMU, by the way, had really amazing filters in 
them...............some of the best out there and, if I"m not mistaken 
the later
Proteus's had them onboard.

They also made a series of specialty Proteus.  I contributed heavily to 
the sample library of the Proteus World Music encarnation as well as the 
'Carnival' which specialized in Latin sounds.    I also helped pick some 
sounds for their
"Mo Phat" module which gathered a lot of sounds of hip hop and funk 
(which had some good key sounds in it.

They also had a Vintage Keys module.

The architecture of these units was all the same and was the major bread 
and butter product for years when their pricier samplers weren't selling.

Additionally, both Yamaha, Korg and Roland all put out multi-purpose one 
rack
synth/keyboard all purpose modules which can generally be had for a song 
these days.

this might be a great inexpensive solution for you combined with 
something like
an M-Audio or Alesis small controller.   I have an Oxygen which is very 
compact
and is really easy to use.

rick walker




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2011/5/19 Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>

>
>>  I have and enjoy the microkorg, but it does NOT have quality strings,
> vintage pianos or organs in it......repeat  does NOT have those sounds.
>
>
Yes, I forgot to write that the same applies to the Korg R3.
And by the way, like the mikrokorg, the R3 relly comes to life when sending
it through an effects unit. The internal effects are not bad, but I really
like the sound when I mangle it with the Line6 M13. I like to use
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I have and enjoy the microkorg, but it does NOT have quality strings, vinta=
ge pianos or organs in it......repeat =A0does NOT have those sounds.<font c=
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to the Korg R3.<div>And by the way, like the mikrokorg, the R3 relly comes =
to life when sending it through an effects unit. The internal effects are n=
ot bad, but I really like the sound when I mangle it with the Line6 M13. I =
like to use Distortion, Phasers, Tremolo, Wah, Ring Modulator etc.=A0</div>
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2011/5/19 Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com>

> btw, I have a MicroKorg. I'm generally happy with it.
>
> [...]
> Cons:
> --In order to change some settings, you need to dial the settings up
> on a matrix (which is hard to read in most band settings). This
> assigns the controls of the 4 knobs.
>

That' s better in the R3, there you have four knobs you can use to control
what you like and save that setting together with the sound patch.



> --About 1/2 of the presets are for stereotypical "techno" sounds or
> auto-arpeggiator sounds which I would never use.


Same in the R3, I overwrote all these presets with my own sounds.



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btw, I have a MicroKorg. I&#39;m generally happy with it.<br>
<br>[...]<br>
Cons:<br>
--In order to change some settings, you need to dial the settings up<br>
on a matrix (which is hard to read in most band settings). This<br>
assigns the controls of the 4 knobs.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Th=
at&#39; s better in the R3, there you have four knobs you can use to contro=
l what you like and save that setting together with the sound patch.=A0</di=
v>
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--About 1/2 of the presets are for stereotypical &quot;techno&quot; sounds =
or<br>
auto-arpeggiator sounds which I would never use.</blockquote><div>=A0</div>=
<div>Same in the R3, I overwrote all these presets with my own sounds.</div=
></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div><a href=3D"mailto:jenko.nashor=
n@googlemail.com" target=3D"_blank">jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com</a></div>

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On May 19, 2011, at 11:20 PM, Johannes Korn wrote:

> 2011/5/19 Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>
>=20
> I have and enjoy the microkorg, but it does NOT have quality strings, =
vintage pianos or organs in it......repeat  does NOT have those sounds.
>=20
>=20
> Yes, I forgot to write that the same applies to the Korg R3.
> And by the way, like the mikrokorg, the R3 relly comes to life when =
sending it through an effects unit. The internal effects are not bad, =
but I really like the sound when I mangle it with the Line6 M13. I like =
to use Distortion, Phasers, Tremolo, Wah, Ring Modulator etc.=20

If looking at virtual analog, which of course won't get many of the =
requested sounds, the Akai Miniak (and it's forebear the Alesis Ion) are =
probably both worth looking at. The Ion engine was very well reviewed in =
its time. I would probably be drawn to the Minak myself if it had an =
aftertouch sensitive keyboard (the keyboard on the MPK49 controller is =
fairly nice) and if it didn't sacrifice having easy arpeggiation =
controls purely in favor of a "phrase arpeggiator" which I'm sure is =
very cool but harder to use. (I'm a guitarist looking for some extra =
sounds as opposed to a keyboard player.)

If you must have a broader range of sounds, then you probably want to be =
looking at some of the more workstation-ish keyboards but they tend to =
be 61 keys and up and hence not really tiny though presumably something =
named the Korg microStation is slimmed down in some way.

Mark


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I have and enjoy the microkorg, but it does NOT have quality strings, =
vintage pianos or organs in it......repeat &nbsp;does NOT have those =
sounds.<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
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</font></blockquote></div><br>Yes, I forgot to write that the same =
applies to the Korg R3.<div>And by the way, like the mikrokorg, the R3 =
relly comes to life when sending it through an effects unit. The =
internal effects are not bad, but I really like the sound when I mangle =
it with the Line6 M13. I like to use Distortion, Phasers, Tremolo, Wah, =
Ring Modulator etc.&nbsp;</div></div></blockquote><br></div><div>If =
looking at virtual analog, which of course won't get many of the =
requested sounds, the Akai Miniak (and it's forebear the Alesis Ion) are =
probably both worth looking at. The Ion engine was very well reviewed in =
its time. I would probably be drawn to the Minak myself if it had an =
aftertouch sensitive keyboard (the keyboard on the MPK49 controller is =
fairly nice) and if it didn't sacrifice having easy arpeggiation =
controls purely in favor of a "phrase arpeggiator" which I'm sure is =
very cool but harder to use. (I'm a guitarist looking for some extra =
sounds as opposed to a keyboard player.)</div><div><br></div><div>If you =
must have a broader range of sounds, then you probably want to be =
looking at some of the more workstation-ish keyboards but they tend to =
be 61 keys and up and hence not really tiny though presumably something =
named the Korg microStation is slimmed down in some =
way.</div><div><br></div><div>Mark</div><div><br></div></body></html>=

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thanks. i have an editor (some Japanese guy made it) but it ain't the
best. I'll look into it.

- jim

On Thursday, May 19, 2011, Hans Lindauer <hanslindauer@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Shameless self-promotion:
>
> I'm not sure if he's released it yet, but I know Matrix (from the Matrixs=
ynth blog) was working on a FS1R sysex editor for the iPad + Missing Link, =
which exposes all of the parameters.
>
> There's also a video series that somebody made, and it looks like there's=
 a software editor for the FS1R as well: http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com/20=
11/03/grokking-fs1r-part-1-fs1r-spectral.html
>
> -Hans
>
>
> On 5/19/2011 5:41 PM, james fowler wrote:
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> thanks, guys. =A0allow me to expand/clarify:
>
> i'd like to filter the sounds of my FS1R. =A0it has filters but they eith=
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brain melt...not to mention taking the fun out of it. =A0i'll invariably en=
d up using it on my obi matrix and roland mks-50 which both feature limited=
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't do this - the filters in reaktor don't, for example). =A0i'm resolved to=
 fact that i need to shell out some $$$ for something worth having but want=
ed to make sure i'm not barking up the wrong tree trying to find a respecta=
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>
> i'll give those three a shot. =A0thanks for the input.
>
> - jim
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How'd you find the 30? I haven't tried it yet, but I have mixed feelings--no
reverse, phaser...seems off to me

On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Petri Lahtinen <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com
> wrote:

> I asked my hardcore-guitar effect, guitar player friend who has done all
> kind of modifications, his answer was that there is little left to do.
>
> Maybe somebody else has different opinion?
> I accepted his and went to another looper, RC-30, switches are soooo quiet.
>
> :-)
>
>
>
> 2011/5/18 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
>
>> anybody has recomendations on quiet switches that would work for the
>> Digitech Jamman stereo?
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Petri Lahtinen
>> <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > My main point of getting rid of it were the LOUD switches, and I dont
>> have
>> > Leopard OS on my Mac's.
>> > If it reads "Windows XP" on the box, then it shoulda work on XP ;-)
>> > I tested it with Windows 7, in the store that took it back and gave me
>> the
>> > RC-30, it worked fine on Win7 too.
>> >
>> > I just dont want to upgrade all my computers when I'm using one 300 e
>> worth
>> > piece of machine.
>> >
>> > 2011/5/17 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
>> >>
>> >> I hear you Petri i was having problems with the software as well on
>> >> the macbook and then i tried it on the imac and it works quite well,so
>> >> thats another reason i decided to keep it.
>> >> cheers
>> >> Luis
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Petri Lahtinen
>> >> <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > ("vast sea to dive in" was the sentence....)
>> >> >
>> >> > 2011/5/15 Petri Lahtinen <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I think many limitations with these hardware loopers can be turned
>> into
>> >> >> possibilities.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I myself want limitations, the music itself is so vast se to dive in
>> >> >> :-D
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Or maybe I'm just losing my friggin mind...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Louie->The software on Digitech stopped working on my XP-machine, so
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> unit became a piece of metal to me. RC-30's memory, you can access
>> it
>> >> >> as a
>> >> >> norma USB-memory.
>> >> >> No software needed. I think Digitech made a huge mistake by closing
>> the
>> >> >> JamMan Stereo's memory by making it accessible only with their piece
>> of
>> >> >> ****
>> >> >> software, that's programmed on Microsoft Silverlight, which is a
>> joke
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> itself.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Sorry, a quite a burst of sentiment, but those are MHO's, at this
>> time.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> :-D
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -Petri-
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2011/5/15 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Hi Petr,
>> >> >>> yes i tried it but decided to keep the Digitech for what i do,it
>> would
>> >> >>> have been nice if those 2 independent tracks could be different in
>> >> >>> length as if u multiplied so i really didnt see much of an
>> advantage
>> >> >>> i didnt like that you had to press undo for 2 seconds or to change
>> >> >>> parts without the switch,for what i do is a bit tedious since im
>> >> >>> singing as well.
>> >> >>> But the switches are really nice,i might have the Digis changed for
>> >> >>> quieter ones!
>> >> >>> Luis
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Petri Lahtinen
>> >> >>> <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>> > Hi Louie!
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > I bought the RC-30 and its really good.
>> >> >>> > Silent switches, two tracks, the extra footswitch is small and
>> >> >>> > fitted
>> >> >>> > my
>> >> >>> > pedalboard well.
>> >> >>> > (FS-6) and with it you can do everything with feet. Well, not
>> start
>> >> >>> > the
>> >> >>> > rhythms, I mean the unit's own drum machine, that is.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > I dont do ABC or any other song forms nowadays, so I dont mind
>> the
>> >> >>> > undo's 2
>> >> >>> > sec thing.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > I'm really pleased with it, it surely fills my small needs as a
>> >> >>> > looping
>> >> >>> > device.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > -Petri-
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > 2011/4/27 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> Hi Petri,
>> >> >>> >> how funny that im doing the same thing!
>> >> >>> >> You arer absolutely right,that software is anoying,im preparing
>> for
>> >> >>> >> a
>> >> >>> >> gig this saturday and it took me almost an hour to get some
>> samples
>> >> >>> >> transfered to the Digitech from their flimsy software,there is a
>> >> >>> >> new
>> >> >>> >> firmware version which i installed prior to working with it,i
>> dont
>> >> >>> >> know what that is meant for,i started importing wav files and in
>> >> >>> >> the
>> >> >>> >> middle of working it crashed bad and lost it all, so i had to
>> >> >>> >> restart
>> >> >>> >> again.Prior to that i was rehearsing with it and as i was
>> scrolling
>> >> >>> >> through the samples the digitech froze and cound not get it to
>> do
>> >> >>> >> anything so i reboot it and found out i had lost every other
>> sample
>> >> >>> >> in
>> >> >>> >> a slot,luckly i had made a jam list backup so i retransfered all
>> >> >>> >> the
>> >> >>> >> files.
>> >> >>> >> what i do like about the digitech is the easy of scrolling
>> through
>> >> >>> >> the
>> >> >>> >> samples,but that switch click is so loud that it gets recorded
>> >> >>> >> everytime i loop anything(i have my mic going into the loops as
>> >> >>> >> well)
>> >> >>> >> I dont know why they replaced the old switches,they seem a lot
>> >> >>> >> quieter, think the Boss-RC30 will be better in that department.
>> >> >>> >> oh dont waste your time trying to call them or suggest
>> >> >>> >> improvements,their support is nada!
>> >> >>> >> Im also getting the RC-30 perhaps today or tomorrow to try
>> out,im
>> >> >>> >> just
>> >> >>> >> using this for small pedalboard type of bar gigs and no
>> racks,the
>> >> >>> >> RC-30 has an essential feature for me like the independent
>> >> >>> >> tracks,is
>> >> >>> >> too bad they didnt assign the undo/redo with the footswitch like
>> >> >>> >> the
>> >> >>> >> Digitech has,you still have to step on it 2 seconds impractical
>> if
>> >> >>> >> u
>> >> >>> >> want ot do A-B arrangments grrr!
>> >> >>> >> oh well lets see if it beats the Digi
>> >> >>> >> cheers
>> >> >>> >> Luis
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Petri Lahtinen
>> >> >>> >> <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> > Hi and thanks to everybody for your responses!
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > BUT it seems that RC-50 is not available here in Finland,
>> >> >>> >> > anymore.
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > The Roland headquarters is Denmark that supply gear to Nordic
>> >> >>> >> > countries
>> >> >>> >> > had
>> >> >>> >> > replied to my store, that they dont have any RC-50's there.
>> >> >>> >> > The chain of stores I use here in Finland, doesnt have not one
>> >> >>> >> > unit
>> >> >>> >> > here. So
>> >> >>> >> > will it become a discontinued product that gets replaced by
>> the
>> >> >>> >> > new
>> >> >>> >> > RC-30...
>> >> >>> >> > who knows...?
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > SO I'm getting the new RC-30 for test drive next week.
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > Looking at the manual, it seems pretty straightforward unit.
>> Need
>> >> >>> >> > extra
>> >> >>> >> > footswitch, which is always annoying.
>> >> >>> >> > Probably nobody on the list doesnt have one of those, cause
>> its
>> >> >>> >> > so
>> >> >>> >> > new
>> >> >>> >> > unit?
>> >> >>> >> > Think it was 2011 January when the first units shipped.
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > -Petri-
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > 2011/4/26 Victor Eijkhout <victor@eijkhout.net>
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> On Apr 25, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> > Were there RC-50 users on the list?
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> Check. Just bought it a month ago so I'm still learning. Fun
>> toy
>> >> >>> >> >> though.
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> Victor.
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > --
>> >> >>> >> > Petri Lahtinen
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> --
>> >> >>> >> www.luis-angulo.com
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > --
>> >> >>> > Petri Lahtinen
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> --
>> >> >>> www.luis-angulo.com
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Petri Lahtinen
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://www.petrilahtinen.com
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Petri Lahtinen
>> >> >
>> >> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> www.luis-angulo.com
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Petri Lahtinen
>> >
>> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> www.luis-angulo.com
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Petri Lahtinen
>
> http://www.petrilahtinen.com
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How&#39;d you find the 30? I haven&#39;t tried it yet, but I have mixed fee=
lings--no reverse, phaser...seems off to me<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e">On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Petri Lahtinen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com">kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com</a=
>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">I asked my hardcore-guitar effect, guitar p=
layer friend who has done all kind of modifications, his answer was that th=
ere is little left to do.<br>
<br>Maybe somebody else has different opinion?<br>I accepted his and went t=
o another looper, RC-30, switches are soooo quiet.<br>
<br>:-)<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote">2011/5/18 Louie Angulo <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:louie.a=
ngulo@googlemail.com" target=3D"_blank">louie.angulo@googlemail.com</a>&gt;=
</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
anybody has recomendations on quiet switches that would work for the<br>
Digitech Jamman stereo?<br>
<br>
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Petri Lahtinen<br>
<div><div></div><div>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com" tar=
get=3D"_blank">kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; My main point of getting rid of it were the LOUD switches, and I dont =
have<br>
&gt; Leopard OS on my Mac&#39;s.<br>
&gt; If it reads &quot;Windows XP&quot; on the box, then it shoulda work on=
 XP ;-)<br>
&gt; I tested it with Windows 7, in the store that took it back and gave me=
 the<br>
&gt; RC-30, it worked fine on Win7 too.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I just dont want to upgrade all my computers when I&#39;m using one 30=
0 e worth<br>
&gt; piece of machine.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 2011/5/17 Louie Angulo &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:louie.angulo@googlemail.c=
om" target=3D"_blank">louie.angulo@googlemail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I hear you Petri i was having problems with the software as well o=
n<br>
&gt;&gt; the macbook and then i tried it on the imac and it works quite wel=
l,so<br>
&gt;&gt; thats another reason i decided to keep it.<br>
&gt;&gt; cheers<br>
&gt;&gt; Luis<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Petri Lahtinen<br>
&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com" target=3D"_blan=
k">kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; (&quot;vast sea to dive in&quot; was the sentence....)<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; 2011/5/15 Petri Lahtinen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kollegavalment=
aja@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; I think many limitations with these hardware loopers can =
be turned into<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; possibilities.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; I myself want limitations, the music itself is so vast se=
 to dive in<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; :-D<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Or maybe I&#39;m just losing my friggin mind...<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Louie-&gt;The software on Digitech stopped working on my =
XP-machine, so<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; the<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; unit became a piece of metal to me. RC-30&#39;s memory, y=
ou can access it<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; as a<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; norma USB-memory.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; No software needed. I think Digitech made a huge mistake =
by closing the<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; JamMan Stereo&#39;s memory by making it accessible only w=
ith their piece of<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; ****<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; software, that&#39;s programmed on Microsoft Silverlight,=
 which is a joke<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; in<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; itself.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Sorry, a quite a burst of sentiment, but those are MHO&#3=
9;s, at this time.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; :-D<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; -Petri-<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 2011/5/15 Louie Angulo &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:louie.angulo=
@googlemail.com" target=3D"_blank">louie.angulo@googlemail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Hi Petr,<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; yes i tried it but decided to keep the Digitech for w=
hat i do,it would<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; have been nice if those 2 independent tracks could be=
 different in<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; length as if u multiplied so i really didnt see much =
of an advantage<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; i didnt like that you had to press undo for 2 seconds=
 or to change<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; parts without the switch,for what i do is a bit tedio=
us since im<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; singing as well.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; But the switches are really nice,i might have the Dig=
is changed for<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; quieter ones!<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Luis<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Petri Lahtinen<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Hi Louie!<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; I bought the RC-30 and its really good.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Silent switches, two tracks, the extra footswitc=
h is small and<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; fitted<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; my<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; pedalboard well.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; (FS-6) and with it you can do everything with fe=
et. Well, not start<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; the<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; rhythms, I mean the unit&#39;s own drum machine,=
 that is.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; I dont do ABC or any other song forms nowadays, =
so I dont mind the<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; undo&#39;s 2<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; sec thing.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; I&#39;m really pleased with it, it surely fills =
my small needs as a<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; looping<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; device.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; -Petri-<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; 2011/4/27 Louie Angulo &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lou=
ie.angulo@googlemail.com" target=3D"_blank">louie.angulo@googlemail.com</a>=
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Hi Petri,<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; how funny that im doing the same thing!<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; You arer absolutely right,that software is a=
noying,im preparing for<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; a<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; gig this saturday and it took me almost an h=
our to get some samples<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; transfered to the Digitech from their flimsy=
 software,there is a<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; new<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; firmware version which i installed prior to =
working with it,i dont<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; know what that is meant for,i started import=
ing wav files and in<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; the<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; middle of working it crashed bad and lost it=
 all, so i had to<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; restart<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; again.Prior to that i was rehearsing with it=
 and as i was scrolling<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; through the samples the digitech froze and c=
ound not get it to do<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; anything so i reboot it and found out i had =
lost every other sample<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; in<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; a slot,luckly i had made a jam list backup s=
o i retransfered all<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; the<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; files.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; what i do like about the digitech is the eas=
y of scrolling through<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; the<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; samples,but that switch click is so loud tha=
t it gets recorded<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; everytime i loop anything(i have my mic goin=
g into the loops as<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; well)<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; I dont know why they replaced the old switch=
es,they seem a lot<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; quieter, think the Boss-RC30 will be better =
in that department.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; oh dont waste your time trying to call them =
or suggest<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; improvements,their support is nada!<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Im also getting the RC-30 perhaps today or t=
omorrow to try out,im<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; just<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; using this for small pedalboard type of bar =
gigs and no racks,the<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; RC-30 has an essential feature for me like t=
he independent<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; tracks,is<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; too bad they didnt assign the undo/redo with=
 the footswitch like<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; the<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Digitech has,you still have to step on it 2 =
seconds impractical if<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; u<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; want ot do A-B arrangments grrr!<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; oh well lets see if it beats the Digi<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; cheers<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Luis<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Petri Lahti=
nen<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kollegavalmentaja@gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank">kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Hi and thanks to everybody for your res=
ponses!<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; BUT it seems that RC-50 is not availabl=
e here in Finland,<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; anymore.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; The Roland headquarters is Denmark that=
 supply gear to Nordic<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; countries<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; had<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; replied to my store, that they dont hav=
e any RC-50&#39;s there.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; The chain of stores I use here in Finla=
nd, doesnt have not one<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; unit<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; here. So<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; will it become a discontinued product t=
hat gets replaced by the<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; new<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; RC-30...<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; who knows...?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; SO I&#39;m getting the new RC-30 for te=
st drive next week.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Looking at the manual, it seems pretty =
straightforward unit. Need<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; extra<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; footswitch, which is always annoying.<b=
r>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Probably nobody on the list doesnt have=
 one of those, cause its<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; so<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; new<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; unit?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Think it was 2011 January when the firs=
t units shipped.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; -Petri-<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; 2011/4/26 Victor Eijkhout &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:victor@eijkhout.net" target=3D"_blank">victor@eijkhout.net</a>&g=
t;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; On Apr 25, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Petri =
Lahtinen wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Were there RC-50 users on the =
list?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Check. Just bought it a month ago s=
o I&#39;m still learning. Fun toy<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; though.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Victor.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Petri Lahtinen<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; <a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com=
" target=3D"_blank">http://www.petrilahtinen.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.luis-angulo.com" targe=
t=3D"_blank">www.luis-angulo.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Petri Lahtinen<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; <a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.petrilahtinen.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.luis-angulo.com" target=3D"_bla=
nk">www.luis-angulo.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Petri Lahtinen<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com" target=3D"_blank=
">http://www.petrilahtinen.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Petri Lahtinen<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; <a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tp://www.petrilahtinen.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
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&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.=
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As I've written earlier, it satisfies my limited needs completely.
In my sense, the BOSS-effects are made for player, and it shows. And as this
is good option for RC-50, which seems to be discontinued product, I am more
than happy to own this unit.

Reverse, for me, is one-trick-pony. I do my reverses before the looping
unit, with other effect pedals.

But I like the basic drum machine that it has.
The units own effects (delay, bend down) wear off fast, but they are fun and
decent sounding!

I think I have the worlds most powerful multi-effect-processor, and its my
brain!
So getting by with the two tracks and that the undo takes 2 secs, is just
case of adaptation on my part.

So far I have found nothing to complain about this decent priced looper.


2011/5/20 daniel <daniel@ithinkwethink.org>

> How'd you find the 30? I haven't tried it yet, but I have mixed
> feelings--no reverse, phaser...seems off to me
>
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Petri Lahtinen <
> kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I asked my hardcore-guitar effect, guitar player friend who has done all
>> kind of modifications, his answer was that there is little left to do.
>>
>> Maybe somebody else has different opinion?
>> I accepted his and went to another looper, RC-30, switches are soooo
>> quiet.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> 2011/5/18 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
>>
>>> anybody has recomendations on quiet switches that would work for the
>>> Digitech Jamman stereo?
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Petri Lahtinen
>>> <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > My main point of getting rid of it were the LOUD switches, and I dont
>>> have
>>> > Leopard OS on my Mac's.
>>> > If it reads "Windows XP" on the box, then it shoulda work on XP ;-)
>>> > I tested it with Windows 7, in the store that took it back and gave me
>>> the
>>> > RC-30, it worked fine on Win7 too.
>>> >
>>> > I just dont want to upgrade all my computers when I'm using one 300 e
>>> worth
>>> > piece of machine.
>>> >
>>> > 2011/5/17 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
>>> >>
>>> >> I hear you Petri i was having problems with the software as well on
>>> >> the macbook and then i tried it on the imac and it works quite well,so
>>> >> thats another reason i decided to keep it.
>>> >> cheers
>>> >> Luis
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Petri Lahtinen
>>> >> <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> > ("vast sea to dive in" was the sentence....)
>>> >> >
>>> >> > 2011/5/15 Petri Lahtinen <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I think many limitations with these hardware loopers can be turned
>>> into
>>> >> >> possibilities.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I myself want limitations, the music itself is so vast se to dive
>>> in
>>> >> >> :-D
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Or maybe I'm just losing my friggin mind...
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Louie->The software on Digitech stopped working on my XP-machine,
>>> so
>>> >> >> the
>>> >> >> unit became a piece of metal to me. RC-30's memory, you can access
>>> it
>>> >> >> as a
>>> >> >> norma USB-memory.
>>> >> >> No software needed. I think Digitech made a huge mistake by closing
>>> the
>>> >> >> JamMan Stereo's memory by making it accessible only with their
>>> piece of
>>> >> >> ****
>>> >> >> software, that's programmed on Microsoft Silverlight, which is a
>>> joke
>>> >> >> in
>>> >> >> itself.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Sorry, a quite a burst of sentiment, but those are MHO's, at this
>>> time.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> :-D
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> -Petri-
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> 2011/5/15 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Hi Petr,
>>> >> >>> yes i tried it but decided to keep the Digitech for what i do,it
>>> would
>>> >> >>> have been nice if those 2 independent tracks could be different in
>>> >> >>> length as if u multiplied so i really didnt see much of an
>>> advantage
>>> >> >>> i didnt like that you had to press undo for 2 seconds or to change
>>> >> >>> parts without the switch,for what i do is a bit tedious since im
>>> >> >>> singing as well.
>>> >> >>> But the switches are really nice,i might have the Digis changed
>>> for
>>> >> >>> quieter ones!
>>> >> >>> Luis
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Petri Lahtinen
>>> >> >>> <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >>> > Hi Louie!
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > I bought the RC-30 and its really good.
>>> >> >>> > Silent switches, two tracks, the extra footswitch is small and
>>> >> >>> > fitted
>>> >> >>> > my
>>> >> >>> > pedalboard well.
>>> >> >>> > (FS-6) and with it you can do everything with feet. Well, not
>>> start
>>> >> >>> > the
>>> >> >>> > rhythms, I mean the unit's own drum machine, that is.
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > I dont do ABC or any other song forms nowadays, so I dont mind
>>> the
>>> >> >>> > undo's 2
>>> >> >>> > sec thing.
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > I'm really pleased with it, it surely fills my small needs as a
>>> >> >>> > looping
>>> >> >>> > device.
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > -Petri-
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > 2011/4/27 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
>>> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >>> >> Hi Petri,
>>> >> >>> >> how funny that im doing the same thing!
>>> >> >>> >> You arer absolutely right,that software is anoying,im preparing
>>> for
>>> >> >>> >> a
>>> >> >>> >> gig this saturday and it took me almost an hour to get some
>>> samples
>>> >> >>> >> transfered to the Digitech from their flimsy software,there is
>>> a
>>> >> >>> >> new
>>> >> >>> >> firmware version which i installed prior to working with it,i
>>> dont
>>> >> >>> >> know what that is meant for,i started importing wav files and
>>> in
>>> >> >>> >> the
>>> >> >>> >> middle of working it crashed bad and lost it all, so i had to
>>> >> >>> >> restart
>>> >> >>> >> again.Prior to that i was rehearsing with it and as i was
>>> scrolling
>>> >> >>> >> through the samples the digitech froze and cound not get it to
>>> do
>>> >> >>> >> anything so i reboot it and found out i had lost every other
>>> sample
>>> >> >>> >> in
>>> >> >>> >> a slot,luckly i had made a jam list backup so i retransfered
>>> all
>>> >> >>> >> the
>>> >> >>> >> files.
>>> >> >>> >> what i do like about the digitech is the easy of scrolling
>>> through
>>> >> >>> >> the
>>> >> >>> >> samples,but that switch click is so loud that it gets recorded
>>> >> >>> >> everytime i loop anything(i have my mic going into the loops as
>>> >> >>> >> well)
>>> >> >>> >> I dont know why they replaced the old switches,they seem a lot
>>> >> >>> >> quieter, think the Boss-RC30 will be better in that department.
>>> >> >>> >> oh dont waste your time trying to call them or suggest
>>> >> >>> >> improvements,their support is nada!
>>> >> >>> >> Im also getting the RC-30 perhaps today or tomorrow to try
>>> out,im
>>> >> >>> >> just
>>> >> >>> >> using this for small pedalboard type of bar gigs and no
>>> racks,the
>>> >> >>> >> RC-30 has an essential feature for me like the independent
>>> >> >>> >> tracks,is
>>> >> >>> >> too bad they didnt assign the undo/redo with the footswitch
>>> like
>>> >> >>> >> the
>>> >> >>> >> Digitech has,you still have to step on it 2 seconds impractical
>>> if
>>> >> >>> >> u
>>> >> >>> >> want ot do A-B arrangments grrr!
>>> >> >>> >> oh well lets see if it beats the Digi
>>> >> >>> >> cheers
>>> >> >>> >> Luis
>>> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >>> >> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Petri Lahtinen
>>> >> >>> >> <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >>> >> > Hi and thanks to everybody for your responses!
>>> >> >>> >> >
>>> >> >>> >> > BUT it seems that RC-50 is not available here in Finland,
>>> >> >>> >> > anymore.
>>> >> >>> >> >
>>> >> >>> >> > The Roland headquarters is Denmark that supply gear to Nordic
>>> >> >>> >> > countries
>>> >> >>> >> > had
>>> >> >>> >> > replied to my store, that they dont have any RC-50's there.
>>> >> >>> >> > The chain of stores I use here in Finland, doesnt have not
>>> one
>>> >> >>> >> > unit
>>> >> >>> >> > here. So
>>> >> >>> >> > will it become a discontinued product that gets replaced by
>>> the
>>> >> >>> >> > new
>>> >> >>> >> > RC-30...
>>> >> >>> >> > who knows...?
>>> >> >>> >> >
>>> >> >>> >> > SO I'm getting the new RC-30 for test drive next week.
>>> >> >>> >> >
>>> >> >>> >> > Looking at the manual, it seems pretty straightforward unit.
>>> Need
>>> >> >>> >> > extra
>>> >> >>> >> > footswitch, which is always annoying.
>>> >> >>> >> > Probably nobody on the list doesnt have one of those, cause
>>> its
>>> >> >>> >> > so
>>> >> >>> >> > new
>>> >> >>> >> > unit?
>>> >> >>> >> > Think it was 2011 January when the first units shipped.
>>> >> >>> >> >
>>> >> >>> >> > -Petri-
>>> >> >>> >> >
>>> >> >>> >> > 2011/4/26 Victor Eijkhout <victor@eijkhout.net>
>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >>> >> >> On Apr 25, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote:
>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >>> >> >> > Were there RC-50 users on the list?
>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >>> >> >> Check. Just bought it a month ago so I'm still learning. Fun
>>> toy
>>> >> >>> >> >> though.
>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >>> >> >> Victor.
>>> >> >>> >> >>
>>> >> >>> >> >
>>> >> >>> >> >
>>> >> >>> >> >
>>> >> >>> >> > --
>>> >> >>> >> > Petri Lahtinen
>>> >> >>> >> >
>>> >> >>> >> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com
>>> >> >>> >> >
>>> >> >>> >> >
>>> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >>> >> --
>>> >> >>> >> www.luis-angulo.com
>>> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > --
>>> >> >>> > Petri Lahtinen
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> --
>>> >> >>> www.luis-angulo.com
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> --
>>> >> >> Petri Lahtinen
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> http://www.petrilahtinen.com
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > --
>>> >> > Petri Lahtinen
>>> >> >
>>> >> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> www.luis-angulo.com
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Petri Lahtinen
>>> >
>>> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> www.luis-angulo.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Petri Lahtinen
>>
>> http://www.petrilahtinen.com
>>
>>
>


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As I&#39;ve written earlier, it satisfies my limited needs completely.<br>I=
n my sense, the BOSS-effects are made for player, and it shows. And as this=
 is good option for RC-50, which seems to be discontinued product, I am mor=
e than happy to own this unit.<br>
<br>Reverse, for me, is one-trick-pony. I do my reverses before the looping=
 unit, with other effect pedals.<br><br>But I like the basic drum machine t=
hat it has.<br>The units own effects (delay, bend down) wear off fast, but =
they are fun and decent sounding!<br>
<br>I think I have the worlds most powerful multi-effect-processor, and its=
 my brain!<br>So getting by with the two tracks and that the undo takes 2 s=
ecs, is just case of adaptation on my part.<br><br>So far I have found noth=
ing to complain about this decent priced looper.<br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/5/20 daniel <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:daniel@ithinkwethink.org">daniel@ithinkwethink.org</a>&gt;=
</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0=
.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
How&#39;d you find the 30? I haven&#39;t tried it yet, but I have mixed fee=
lings--no reverse, phaser...seems off to me<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5=
"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Petri=
 Lahtinen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kollegavalmentaja@gmail.c=
om" target=3D"_blank">kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">I asked my hardco=
re-guitar effect, guitar player friend who has done all kind of modificatio=
ns, his answer was that there is little left to do.<br>

<br>Maybe somebody else has different opinion?<br>I accepted his and went t=
o another looper, RC-30, switches are soooo quiet.<br>
<br>:-)<div><div></div><div><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/5/1=
8 Louie Angulo <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:louie.angulo@googlem=
ail.com" target=3D"_blank">louie.angulo@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
anybody has recomendations on quiet switches that would work for the<br>
Digitech Jamman stereo?<br>
<br>
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Petri Lahtinen<br>
<div><div></div><div>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com" tar=
get=3D"_blank">kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; My main point of getting rid of it were the LOUD switches, and I dont =
have<br>
&gt; Leopard OS on my Mac&#39;s.<br>
&gt; If it reads &quot;Windows XP&quot; on the box, then it shoulda work on=
 XP ;-)<br>
&gt; I tested it with Windows 7, in the store that took it back and gave me=
 the<br>
&gt; RC-30, it worked fine on Win7 too.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I just dont want to upgrade all my computers when I&#39;m using one 30=
0 e worth<br>
&gt; piece of machine.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 2011/5/17 Louie Angulo &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:louie.angulo@googlemail.c=
om" target=3D"_blank">louie.angulo@googlemail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I hear you Petri i was having problems with the software as well o=
n<br>
&gt;&gt; the macbook and then i tried it on the imac and it works quite wel=
l,so<br>
&gt;&gt; thats another reason i decided to keep it.<br>
&gt;&gt; cheers<br>
&gt;&gt; Luis<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Petri Lahtinen<br>
&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com" target=3D"_blan=
k">kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; (&quot;vast sea to dive in&quot; was the sentence....)<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; 2011/5/15 Petri Lahtinen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kollegavalment=
aja@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; I think many limitations with these hardware loopers can =
be turned into<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; possibilities.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; I myself want limitations, the music itself is so vast se=
 to dive in<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; :-D<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Or maybe I&#39;m just losing my friggin mind...<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Louie-&gt;The software on Digitech stopped working on my =
XP-machine, so<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; the<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; unit became a piece of metal to me. RC-30&#39;s memory, y=
ou can access it<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; as a<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; norma USB-memory.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; No software needed. I think Digitech made a huge mistake =
by closing the<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; JamMan Stereo&#39;s memory by making it accessible only w=
ith their piece of<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; ****<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; software, that&#39;s programmed on Microsoft Silverlight,=
 which is a joke<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; in<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; itself.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Sorry, a quite a burst of sentiment, but those are MHO&#3=
9;s, at this time.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; :-D<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; -Petri-<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 2011/5/15 Louie Angulo &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:louie.angulo=
@googlemail.com" target=3D"_blank">louie.angulo@googlemail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Hi Petr,<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; yes i tried it but decided to keep the Digitech for w=
hat i do,it would<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; have been nice if those 2 independent tracks could be=
 different in<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; length as if u multiplied so i really didnt see much =
of an advantage<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; i didnt like that you had to press undo for 2 seconds=
 or to change<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; parts without the switch,for what i do is a bit tedio=
us since im<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; singing as well.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; But the switches are really nice,i might have the Dig=
is changed for<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; quieter ones!<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Luis<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Petri Lahtinen<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Hi Louie!<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; I bought the RC-30 and its really good.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Silent switches, two tracks, the extra footswitc=
h is small and<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; fitted<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; my<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; pedalboard well.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; (FS-6) and with it you can do everything with fe=
et. Well, not start<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; the<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; rhythms, I mean the unit&#39;s own drum machine,=
 that is.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; I dont do ABC or any other song forms nowadays, =
so I dont mind the<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; undo&#39;s 2<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; sec thing.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; I&#39;m really pleased with it, it surely fills =
my small needs as a<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; looping<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; device.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; -Petri-<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; 2011/4/27 Louie Angulo &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lou=
ie.angulo@googlemail.com" target=3D"_blank">louie.angulo@googlemail.com</a>=
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Hi Petri,<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; how funny that im doing the same thing!<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; You arer absolutely right,that software is a=
noying,im preparing for<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; a<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; gig this saturday and it took me almost an h=
our to get some samples<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; transfered to the Digitech from their flimsy=
 software,there is a<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; new<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; firmware version which i installed prior to =
working with it,i dont<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; know what that is meant for,i started import=
ing wav files and in<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; the<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; middle of working it crashed bad and lost it=
 all, so i had to<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; restart<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; again.Prior to that i was rehearsing with it=
 and as i was scrolling<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; through the samples the digitech froze and c=
ound not get it to do<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; anything so i reboot it and found out i had =
lost every other sample<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; in<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; a slot,luckly i had made a jam list backup s=
o i retransfered all<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; the<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; files.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; what i do like about the digitech is the eas=
y of scrolling through<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; the<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; samples,but that switch click is so loud tha=
t it gets recorded<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; everytime i loop anything(i have my mic goin=
g into the loops as<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; well)<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; I dont know why they replaced the old switch=
es,they seem a lot<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; quieter, think the Boss-RC30 will be better =
in that department.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; oh dont waste your time trying to call them =
or suggest<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; improvements,their support is nada!<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Im also getting the RC-30 perhaps today or t=
omorrow to try out,im<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; just<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; using this for small pedalboard type of bar =
gigs and no racks,the<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; RC-30 has an essential feature for me like t=
he independent<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; tracks,is<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; too bad they didnt assign the undo/redo with=
 the footswitch like<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; the<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Digitech has,you still have to step on it 2 =
seconds impractical if<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; u<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; want ot do A-B arrangments grrr!<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; oh well lets see if it beats the Digi<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; cheers<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Luis<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Petri Lahti=
nen<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kollegavalmentaja@gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank">kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Hi and thanks to everybody for your res=
ponses!<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; BUT it seems that RC-50 is not availabl=
e here in Finland,<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; anymore.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; The Roland headquarters is Denmark that=
 supply gear to Nordic<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; countries<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; had<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; replied to my store, that they dont hav=
e any RC-50&#39;s there.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; The chain of stores I use here in Finla=
nd, doesnt have not one<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; unit<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; here. So<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; will it become a discontinued product t=
hat gets replaced by the<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; new<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; RC-30...<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; who knows...?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; SO I&#39;m getting the new RC-30 for te=
st drive next week.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Looking at the manual, it seems pretty =
straightforward unit. Need<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; extra<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; footswitch, which is always annoying.<b=
r>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Probably nobody on the list doesnt have=
 one of those, cause its<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; so<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; new<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; unit?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Think it was 2011 January when the firs=
t units shipped.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; -Petri-<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; 2011/4/26 Victor Eijkhout &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:victor@eijkhout.net" target=3D"_blank">victor@eijkhout.net</a>&g=
t;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; On Apr 25, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Petri =
Lahtinen wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Were there RC-50 users on the =
list?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Check. Just bought it a month ago s=
o I&#39;m still learning. Fun toy<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; though.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Victor.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Petri Lahtinen<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; <a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com=
" target=3D"_blank">http://www.petrilahtinen.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.luis-angulo.com" targe=
t=3D"_blank">www.luis-angulo.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Petri Lahtinen<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; <a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.petrilahtinen.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.luis-angulo.com" target=3D"_bla=
nk">www.luis-angulo.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Petri Lahtinen<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com" target=3D"_blank=
">http://www.petrilahtinen.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Petri Lahtinen<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; <a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tp://www.petrilahtinen.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.luis-angulo.com" target=3D"_blank">www.luis-=
angulo.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; Petri Lahtinen<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.=
petrilahtinen.com</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</div></div><font color=3D"#888888">--<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.luis-angulo.com" target=3D"_blank">www.luis-angulo.co=
m</a><br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br></div></div>-- <br><div=
><div></div><div>Petri Lahtinen<br><br><a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.=
com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.petrilahtinen.com</a><br><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Petri Lahti=
nen<br><br><a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com" target=3D"_blank">http:=
//www.petrilahtinen.com</a><br><br>

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hans - were you referring to these guys: <a href="http://www.icontrolmididesign.com/">http://www.icontrolmididesign.com/</a><br><br>- jim<br>

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Thanx Petri,i dont know who makes such strange decisions,The digitech
switches on tha past loopers were way quieter almost like the boss
ones!
but this things should be called the jamman "clack" looper!
Luis

On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Petri Lahtinen
<kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
> I asked my hardcore-guitar effect, guitar player friend who has done all
> kind of modifications, his answer was that there is little left to do.
>
> Maybe somebody else has different opinion?
> I accepted his and went to another looper, RC-30, switches are soooo quiet.
>
> :-)
>
>
> 2011/5/18 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
>>
>> anybody has recomendations on quiet switches that would work for the
>> Digitech Jamman stereo?
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Petri Lahtinen
>> <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > My main point of getting rid of it were the LOUD switches, and I dont
>> > have
>> > Leopard OS on my Mac's.
>> > If it reads "Windows XP" on the box, then it shoulda work on XP ;-)
>> > I tested it with Windows 7, in the store that took it back and gave me
>> > the
>> > RC-30, it worked fine on Win7 too.
>> >
>> > I just dont want to upgrade all my computers when I'm using one 300 e
>> > worth
>> > piece of machine.
>> >
>> > 2011/5/17 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
>> >>
>> >> I hear you Petri i was having problems with the software as well on
>> >> the macbook and then i tried it on the imac and it works quite well,so
>> >> thats another reason i decided to keep it.
>> >> cheers
>> >> Luis
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Petri Lahtinen
>> >> <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > ("vast sea to dive in" was the sentence....)
>> >> >
>> >> > 2011/5/15 Petri Lahtinen <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I think many limitations with these hardware loopers can be turned
>> >> >> into
>> >> >> possibilities.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I myself want limitations, the music itself is so vast se to dive in
>> >> >> :-D
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Or maybe I'm just losing my friggin mind...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Louie->The software on Digitech stopped working on my XP-machine, so
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> unit became a piece of metal to me. RC-30's memory, you can access
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> as a
>> >> >> norma USB-memory.
>> >> >> No software needed. I think Digitech made a huge mistake by closing
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> JamMan Stereo's memory by making it accessible only with their piece
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> ****
>> >> >> software, that's programmed on Microsoft Silverlight, which is a
>> >> >> joke
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> itself.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Sorry, a quite a burst of sentiment, but those are MHO's, at this
>> >> >> time.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> :-D
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -Petri-
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2011/5/15 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Hi Petr,
>> >> >>> yes i tried it but decided to keep the Digitech for what i do,it
>> >> >>> would
>> >> >>> have been nice if those 2 independent tracks could be different in
>> >> >>> length as if u multiplied so i really didnt see much of an
>> >> >>> advantage
>> >> >>> i didnt like that you had to press undo for 2 seconds or to change
>> >> >>> parts without the switch,for what i do is a bit tedious since im
>> >> >>> singing as well.
>> >> >>> But the switches are really nice,i might have the Digis changed for
>> >> >>> quieter ones!
>> >> >>> Luis
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Petri Lahtinen
>> >> >>> <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>> > Hi Louie!
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > I bought the RC-30 and its really good.
>> >> >>> > Silent switches, two tracks, the extra footswitch is small and
>> >> >>> > fitted
>> >> >>> > my
>> >> >>> > pedalboard well.
>> >> >>> > (FS-6) and with it you can do everything with feet. Well, not
>> >> >>> > start
>> >> >>> > the
>> >> >>> > rhythms, I mean the unit's own drum machine, that is.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > I dont do ABC or any other song forms nowadays, so I dont mind
>> >> >>> > the
>> >> >>> > undo's 2
>> >> >>> > sec thing.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > I'm really pleased with it, it surely fills my small needs as a
>> >> >>> > looping
>> >> >>> > device.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > -Petri-
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > 2011/4/27 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> Hi Petri,
>> >> >>> >> how funny that im doing the same thing!
>> >> >>> >> You arer absolutely right,that software is anoying,im preparing
>> >> >>> >> for
>> >> >>> >> a
>> >> >>> >> gig this saturday and it took me almost an hour to get some
>> >> >>> >> samples
>> >> >>> >> transfered to the Digitech from their flimsy software,there is a
>> >> >>> >> new
>> >> >>> >> firmware version which i installed prior to working with it,i
>> >> >>> >> dont
>> >> >>> >> know what that is meant for,i started importing wav files and in
>> >> >>> >> the
>> >> >>> >> middle of working it crashed bad and lost it all, so i had to
>> >> >>> >> restart
>> >> >>> >> again.Prior to that i was rehearsing with it and as i was
>> >> >>> >> scrolling
>> >> >>> >> through the samples the digitech froze and cound not get it to
>> >> >>> >> do
>> >> >>> >> anything so i reboot it and found out i had lost every other
>> >> >>> >> sample
>> >> >>> >> in
>> >> >>> >> a slot,luckly i had made a jam list backup so i retransfered all
>> >> >>> >> the
>> >> >>> >> files.
>> >> >>> >> what i do like about the digitech is the easy of scrolling
>> >> >>> >> through
>> >> >>> >> the
>> >> >>> >> samples,but that switch click is so loud that it gets recorded
>> >> >>> >> everytime i loop anything(i have my mic going into the loops as
>> >> >>> >> well)
>> >> >>> >> I dont know why they replaced the old switches,they seem a lot
>> >> >>> >> quieter, think the Boss-RC30 will be better in that department.
>> >> >>> >> oh dont waste your time trying to call them or suggest
>> >> >>> >> improvements,their support is nada!
>> >> >>> >> Im also getting the RC-30 perhaps today or tomorrow to try
>> >> >>> >> out,im
>> >> >>> >> just
>> >> >>> >> using this for small pedalboard type of bar gigs and no
>> >> >>> >> racks,the
>> >> >>> >> RC-30 has an essential feature for me like the independent
>> >> >>> >> tracks,is
>> >> >>> >> too bad they didnt assign the undo/redo with the footswitch like
>> >> >>> >> the
>> >> >>> >> Digitech has,you still have to step on it 2 seconds impractical
>> >> >>> >> if
>> >> >>> >> u
>> >> >>> >> want ot do A-B arrangments grrr!
>> >> >>> >> oh well lets see if it beats the Digi
>> >> >>> >> cheers
>> >> >>> >> Luis
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Petri Lahtinen
>> >> >>> >> <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> > Hi and thanks to everybody for your responses!
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > BUT it seems that RC-50 is not available here in Finland,
>> >> >>> >> > anymore.
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > The Roland headquarters is Denmark that supply gear to Nordic
>> >> >>> >> > countries
>> >> >>> >> > had
>> >> >>> >> > replied to my store, that they dont have any RC-50's there.
>> >> >>> >> > The chain of stores I use here in Finland, doesnt have not one
>> >> >>> >> > unit
>> >> >>> >> > here. So
>> >> >>> >> > will it become a discontinued product that gets replaced by
>> >> >>> >> > the
>> >> >>> >> > new
>> >> >>> >> > RC-30...
>> >> >>> >> > who knows...?
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > SO I'm getting the new RC-30 for test drive next week.
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > Looking at the manual, it seems pretty straightforward unit.
>> >> >>> >> > Need
>> >> >>> >> > extra
>> >> >>> >> > footswitch, which is always annoying.
>> >> >>> >> > Probably nobody on the list doesnt have one of those, cause
>> >> >>> >> > its
>> >> >>> >> > so
>> >> >>> >> > new
>> >> >>> >> > unit?
>> >> >>> >> > Think it was 2011 January when the first units shipped.
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > -Petri-
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > 2011/4/26 Victor Eijkhout <victor@eijkhout.net>
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> On Apr 25, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> > Were there RC-50 users on the list?
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> Check. Just bought it a month ago so I'm still learning. Fun
>> >> >>> >> >> toy
>> >> >>> >> >> though.
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> Victor.
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > --
>> >> >>> >> > Petri Lahtinen
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> --
>> >> >>> >> www.luis-angulo.com
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > --
>> >> >>> > Petri Lahtinen
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> --
>> >> >>> www.luis-angulo.com
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Petri Lahtinen
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://www.petrilahtinen.com
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Petri Lahtinen
>> >> >
>> >> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> www.luis-angulo.com
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Petri Lahtinen
>> >
>> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> www.luis-angulo.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Petri Lahtinen
>
> http://www.petrilahtinen.com
>
>



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Oh, come on - everyone knows that the correct way to use a FS1R is not 
to use filters, but to change harmonic content via the operators - quite 
simply, change modulation index for cutoff, modulator relative frequency 
for steepness, and use a second operator pair for a resonant-peak-like 
behaviour (and a modulator for the first modulator for distortion) ;)

Seriously, though, as some already pointed out, there are quite a few 
(free) editors for the FS1R around, like this:
http://synth-voice.sakura.ne.jp/fs1r_editor_english.html

Envelope follower in Reaktor: use the detector circuit from the 
compressor contained in the library as a starting point. Or, much 
better, simply connect an ADSR to the filter's frequency input and 
trigger that with the MIDI notes which also control the FS1R (and use 
the same notes' note number on the filter frequency input for keytracking).

But then again - why would you want to get a subtractive-synth-type 
sound from a FS1R? Wouldn't it work better if you used some other synth 
from the start (just wondering)?

Another hardware-domain suggestion (I know, I suggest that one every 
time): Nord Micromodular. Small and relatively cheap, you could use it 
as an effect on the FS1R's outputs (or rather some of its outputs). And 
you got nice multimode filters, and the possibility to use 
MIDI-triggered envelopes and key tracking right from the start.

          Rainer


james fowler schrieb:
> thanks, guys.  allow me to expand/clarify:
>
> i'd like to filter the sounds of my FS1R.  it has filters but they 
> either don't do what i want or i can't figure them out because the 
> manual sucks and scrolling through sub-menu after sub-menu is enough 
> to make anybody's brain melt...not to mention taking the fun out of 
> it.  i'll invariably end up using it on my obi matrix and roland 
> mks-50 which both feature limited filters.  i'd like something with an 
> envelope follower (lots of them don't do this - the filters in reaktor 
> don't, for example).  i'm resolved to fact that i need to shell out 
> some $$$ for something worth having but wanted to make sure i'm not 
> barking up the wrong tree trying to find a respectable piece of software.
>
> i'll give those three a shot.  thanks for the input.
>
> - jim


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Rick Walker schrieb:
> I even discovered that if I put even a prosaic sounding
> distortion box after it, that I could come up with some very
> hip, modern industrial sounds out of fairly normal patches.
This is of course something that is true for a lot of cheesy synths. 
Anyone remember the Adlib soundcard (a very early PC synthesizer sound 
card, which used the same synth as the first SoundBlaster - Yamaha 
YM3812)? That thing sounded like - well, an extremely cheesy and cheap 
digital synth - unless you put it through a Sherman Filterbank, followed 
by a Tubescreamer (I was extremely surprised back in the day when a 
Techno producer showed me how he had done the very punchy bass line on 
one of his productions in this way).
> Also EMU had a series called the Proteus.   Their flagship was the
> Proteus 2000 and there are a lot of the for sale on e-bay for around
> $250 USD........they just had a zillion useful sounds in them.
The flagship was the Proteus 2500 (which wouldn't apply in Luis' quest, 
as it was a 4HU device with a lot of realtime controllers thrown in), 
and as you mentioned, there were not only a zillion sounds in them, but 
a zillion variants.
Based on a stripped-down version of the EIII sampler architecture, this 
was the architecture that defined practically all of E-mu's ROM player 
products from 1989 up until 2001 (and also the ESi-32 sampler).
> A lot of keyboard people would be snobby about them because they 
> didn't have the kind of control that a lot of fancy analogue synths 
> had, but that wasn't what
> they were designed for.   EMU, by the way, had really amazing filters 
> in them...............some of the best out there and, if I"m not 
> mistaken the later
> Proteus's had them onboard.
E-mu was always cool for filters - the innovation in the Proteus line 
were the so-called Z-Plane filters (14-pole filters, which they decided 
to give a signal theory name), first introduced in the Morpheus, and 
then contained in most model after that.
And they had a lot of control possibilities - only not on the front 
panel. While I'm not sure about the exact numbers, all Proteus models 
featured both a flexible modulation structure (at the time only 
available in modular synths or Oberheim's Matrix series) and the 
possibility to use various MIDI CCs to control parameters in realtime.

Later models would also allow you to install additional sound banks 
(i.e. sample waveforms); they came with 32MB but allowed for up to three 
additional modules. And as you already mentioned, the Proteus already 
had a lot of variants - Vintage Keys, Plane Whatever (there were World, 
and Phatt etc.), B3, andsoon - and the Audity 2000 with an unparalleled 
sixteen arpeggiators.

There are also different form factors available: two named "Command 
Station" (desktop version with trigger pads) and two named "Keys" (a 
5-octave-keyboard version).

And if you're still not convinced: how about a free download of a 
software version to just try the thing?
http://en.audiofanzine.com/partner/a.proteusvx.html

Downside: the smallest ones are 1HU full width.

             Rainer

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Nope, I guess that would work but it's ugly and expensive IMHO.

Check http://wifimidi.com for the Missing Link, the FS1R editor is just a To=
uchOSC template.  I'll ping Matrix and see where he is with that, I'm sure h=
e'd share a preview even if it's not completely done.

Of course the Missing Link is more expensive than the iControlMIDI app, but i=
t's usefulness extends beyond just controlling the FS1R if you have any othe=
r MIDI gear that could benefit from iPad/iPod/iPhone -based wireless control=
.

-Hans

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I have the microX, the microkorg and the micro sampler.
The micro x is the one to be choosen for real sounds, beeing a triton in =
a small form but a b*** to program without the editor. 2 octave keyborad =
only.

The mikrokorg has already been discussed on this topic: nice "analog" =
sound, some guy managed to do a kind of piano sound but don't expect a =
trumpet or real drums from this thing. No one said however that all =
controls answer to midi cc, so a small controller can replace the =
missing knobs.

The last one: the microsampler might interest you and bring us back on a =
looper topic.
It's compact, you can sample/mangle your sound, use it as a crude =
multitrack recorder, use it for glitch/experimental stuff, has a little =
pattern sequencer, you can resample several sample in one, use a single =
sample chromatically, with or without time strectching (repeater =
anyone?), allow easy multisampling, sync several loops ... Perhaps it =
would suite you. It's fun, it's probably the one in which you can the =
most easily put your signature sound (it's a sampler). The Con is that =
it takes some time to load a new bank (up to 30 sec for a full loaded =
bank).

Ben
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 8:24 AM
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  2011/5/19 Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com>

    btw, I have a MicroKorg. I'm generally happy with it.

    [...]
    Cons:
    --In order to change some settings, you need to dial the settings up
    on a matrix (which is hard to read in most band settings). This
    assigns the controls of the 4 knobs.



  That' s better in the R3, there you have four knobs you can use to =
control what you like and save that setting together with the sound =
patch.=20



    --About 1/2 of the presets are for stereotypical "techno" sounds or
    auto-arpeggiator sounds which I would never use.

  Same in the R3, I overwrote all these presets with my own sounds.



  --=20

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your sound, use=20
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has a=20
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use a=20
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  <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2011/5/19 Matt Davignon <SPAN =
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I have a microsampler too. It's another one I haven't figured out much yet.

This keyboard has its uses, but feels like Korg tragically missed the
opportunity to make something wonderful. I would expect a modern
sampling keyboard to have these basic features:
--The ability to adjust start, end and loop points for the selected
sample on the fly with dedicated controls.
--ASDR envelopes (attack/sustain/decay/release)
--a pitch wheel and a mod wheel.

The microsampler has NONE of these things. I believe there's a way to
edit start, end and loop points, but you have to hunt through menus to
get there.

It's a great tool for making hip-hop beats that use samples. In fact,
the feature set is completely steered towards this. It has a nice peak
detection feature so you could run a drum beat through it, and it
would split each hit into a different sample automatically. Another
nice feature lets you sample and assign a key to a sound at the same
time. When you turn the mode on, you simply hold down the selected
note for as long as you want it to record a sample. The sample is
saved to that key. I then use a dry-erase marker on the keys to remind
me which sample is on each key.

Once you have samples, dedicated switches let you loop and reverse
them. You can't loop/reverse the samples all at once - only for the
keys that you're holding down.

One really annoying thing is that the default samples are all
beatboxing sounds. Apparently whoever designed this keyboard is either
a beatboxer, or was sleeping with one at the time. I haven't yet
figured out how to get it to start up with a "blank slate" on the keys
- or even better, the samples I had previously loaded.

--=20
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt



Ruelle Benoit <benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> was all:

> The last one: the microsampler might interest you and bring us back on a
> looper topic.
> It's compact, you can sample/mangle your sound, use it as a crude multitr=
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> sequencer, you can resample several sample=A0in one, use a single sample
> chromatically, with or without time strectching=A0(repeater anyone?), all=
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> easy multisampling, sync several loops ...=A0Perhaps it would suite you. =
It's
> fun, it's probably the one in which you can the most easily put your
> signature sound (it's a sampler). The Con is that it takes some time to l=
oad
> a new bank (up to 30 sec for a full loaded bank).
>
> Ben

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Hi,
Are there other Loopers out there who roll their own? Rather then 
searching (seemingly forever) for custom looping features, these 
features can be made or at least tried out using DIY. One good FREE 
application for doing this is SynthEdit <http://www.synthedit.com/>. It 
works by drawing wires between premade modules on screen. The final 
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especially for those who are mainly performing musicians. Taking a 
laptop on stage has its downsides. For some DIY and electronic music 
experimentation is their path.
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SynthEdit is very cool, but it's not free anymore.

On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Richard Wixner <
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> Hi,
> Are there other Loopers out there who roll their own? Rather then searching
> (seemingly forever) for custom looping features, these features can be made
> or at least tried out using DIY. One good FREE application for doing this is
> SynthEdit <http://www.synthedit.com/>. It works by drawing wires between
> premade modules on screen. The final creation can be turned into a VST
> plugin. There are other similar applications for experimenting with music.
> MAX, Reactor, Synth Maker etc.
>
> Building a looping device is quite possible without doing actual
> programming. I plan on making my current project (a looper) available online
> soon. Of course too much technology involvement can become a trap especially
> for those who are mainly performing musicians. Taking a laptop on stage has
> its downsides. For some DIY and electronic music experimentation is their
> path.
> Richard
>
>


-- 
-==-=-=-
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SynthEdit is very cool, but it&#39;s not free anymore.=A0 <br><br><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Richard Wixner <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rwix@anotherplanerecords.com">rwix@anotherpl=
anerecords.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-l=
eft-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: s=
olid;" class=3D"gmail_quote">Hi,<br>
Are there other Loopers out there who roll their own? Rather then searching=
 (seemingly forever) for custom looping features, these features can be mad=
e or at least tried out using DIY. One good FREE application for doing this=
 is SynthEdit &lt;<a href=3D"http://www.synthedit.com/" target=3D"_blank">h=
ttp://www.synthedit.com/</a>&gt;. It works by drawing wires between premade=
 modules on screen. The final creation can be turned into a VST plugin. The=
re are other similar applications for experimenting with music. MAX, Reacto=
r, Synth Maker etc.<br>

<br>
Building a looping device is quite possible without doing actual programmin=
g. I plan on making my current project (a looper) available online soon. Of=
 course too much technology involvement can become a trap especially for th=
ose who are mainly performing musicians. Taking a laptop on stage has its d=
ownsides. For some DIY and electronic music experimentation is their path.<=
br>
<font color=3D"#888888">
Richard<br>
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Hi Matt,

I agrre about the ADSR, pity. Usualy I connect a synth to the midi out, then 
the audio back to the IN of the MS.
I can then sample quickly a multisample bank (the keys of the MS triggers 
the external synth and the sampling at the same time). I then uses the ADSR 
settings of the external synth.

You can also sample when the pattern is playing and quantizie the sample 
length to fraction of the BPM. Great for these "EDP replace" stuff.

It always start with the last loaded bank.
So don't forget to write you bank using twice the write button (extreme 
right).
To start with a blank state just init the bank (edit+leftmost E key) then 
write the bank.

I hope this makes sense.

ben




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I have a microsampler too. It's another one I haven't figured out much yet.

This keyboard has its uses, but feels like Korg tragically missed the
opportunity to make something wonderful. I would expect a modern
sampling keyboard to have these basic features:
--The ability to adjust start, end and loop points for the selected
sample on the fly with dedicated controls.
--ASDR envelopes (attack/sustain/decay/release)
--a pitch wheel and a mod wheel.

The microsampler has NONE of these things. I believe there's a way to
edit start, end and loop points, but you have to hunt through menus to
get there.

It's a great tool for making hip-hop beats that use samples. In fact,
the feature set is completely steered towards this. It has a nice peak
detection feature so you could run a drum beat through it, and it
would split each hit into a different sample automatically. Another
nice feature lets you sample and assign a key to a sound at the same
time. When you turn the mode on, you simply hold down the selected
note for as long as you want it to record a sample. The sample is
saved to that key. I then use a dry-erase marker on the keys to remind
me which sample is on each key.

Once you have samples, dedicated switches let you loop and reverse
them. You can't loop/reverse the samples all at once - only for the
keys that you're holding down.

One really annoying thing is that the default samples are all
beatboxing sounds. Apparently whoever designed this keyboard is either
a beatboxer, or was sleeping with one at the time. I haven't yet
figured out how to get it to start up with a "blank slate" on the keys
- or even better, the samples I had previously loaded.

-- 
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusic.com
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Ruelle Benoit <benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> was all:

> The last one: the microsampler might interest you and bring us back on a
> looper topic.
> It's compact, you can sample/mangle your sound, use it as a crude 
> multitrack
> recorder, use it for glitch/experimental stuff, has a little pattern
> sequencer, you can resample several sample in one, use a single sample
> chromatically, with or without time strectching (repeater anyone?), allow
> easy multisampling, sync several loops ... Perhaps it would suite you. 
> It's
> fun, it's probably the one in which you can the most easily put your
> signature sound (it's a sampler). The Con is that it takes some time to 
> load
> a new bank (up to 30 sec for a full loaded bank).
>
> Ben

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Wow, who'd a thunk it????

Andy o



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> Are there other Loopers out there who roll their own? Rather then searchin=
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e or at least tried out using DIY. One good FREE application for doing this i=
s SynthEdit <http://www.synthedit.com/>. It works by drawing wires between p=
remade modules on screen. The final creation can be turned into a VST plugin=
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actor, Synth Maker etc.
>=20
> Building a looping device is quite possible without doing actual programmi=
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 course too much technology involvement can become a trap especially for tho=
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nsides. For some DIY and electronic music experimentation is their path.
> Richard
>=20

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http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/110519.html

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem,
PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet.  WDIY also broadcasts
in Digital HD at 88.1 FM.

                 Show #737                May 19, 2011.

RECAP:
On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Rudy Adrian.  The
Featured CD at Midnight was "Moonwater" on Lotuspike Records.

Rudy Adrian: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#may

PLAYLIST:

11:04 pm
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Kevin Braheny        Starflight 1 *       Galaxies (Hearts of Space)
Remy                 I-Dentity            I-Dentity (Deserted Island/
                                             Ricochet Dream)
Seven Octaves        Press On             Encouragements (KMT)
Rainbow Serpent and  Gateway              Stranger (Manikin)
Dentist              Skies                Cuts (Auraltone Music)
Phobos               This Desolate        This Desolate Place (none)
                        Place *

12:00 am
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Rudy Adrian          Moon Water           Moonwater (Lotuspike)
Rudy Adrian          Midnight Fantasy     Moonwater (Lotuspike)
                        Angel, part 1
Rudy Adrian          Summer Fields        Moonwater (Lotuspike)
Rudy Adrian          Midnight Fantasy     Moonwater (Lotuspike)
                        Angel, part 2
Rudy Adrian          Ancestral Legacy     Moonwater (Lotuspike)
Rudy Adrian          The Legend of        Moonwater (Lotuspike)
                        Kristy Lynn
Rudy Adrian          Under Orion          Moonwater (Lotuspike)
Rudy Adrian          Three Views of a     Moonwater (Lotuspike)
                        Japanese Garden
                        part 3

1:00 am

  * = excerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
++ = Advance CDR from Artist
-- = Background music under interview


NEXT SHOW:
On the next Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long focus on Rudy
Adrian.  The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Par Avion" on Groove
Unlimited Records.

Bill
========================================================================
Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show,
Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in
Trexlertown and Fogelsville.  WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio
on 88.1 FM.
Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info
Listen to WDIY on-line.

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FYI.  Belated...4 days ago.  Amazing career that spans almost *five*  
decades!

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/heardmentality/2011/05/ 
robert_fripp_birthday.php

Cheers-Rev. Fever
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The Angry Red Planet

NP:  Brian Eno "Another Day On Earth"

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[insert indignant castigation here]

I'm really looking forwards to the box, whatever its dimensions. It does
still have the ability to run on batteries, yes? This is as much my
attraction to the looper as all the other stuff; I busk weekly (when its not
monsoon season) and so portability is key. I use an RC-20XL now, but I find
it very limiting, as I elsewise use a Boomerang III.

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[insert indignant castigation here]<br><br>I&#39;m really looking forwards =
to the box, whatever its dimensions. It does still have the ability to run =
on batteries, yes? This is as much my attraction to the looper as all the o=
ther stuff; I busk weekly (when its not monsoon season) and so portability =
is key. I use an RC-20XL now, but I find it very limiting, as I elsewise us=
e a Boomerang III.<br>
<br clear=3D"all">Zak Kramer<br>

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SynthEdit is now indeed shareware but well worth it. I had it around on 
my hard drive for several years and had only scratched the surface with 
a few basic early designs. Last year I needed to come up with a VST 
synth plug-in for my G10 MIDI guitar 
<http://www.anotherplanerecords.com/lucid_VST.htm> and was able to do 
this complex task. The current PsyLooper project is coming along nicely. 
An early phrase looper is online also. One advantage of going the DIY 
route is that the result is focused on what we ourselves envision.



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>
> check http://wifimidi.com for the Missing Link, the FS1R editor is just a
> TouchOSC template.  I'll ping Matrix and see where he is with that, I'm
> sure he'd share a preview even if it's not completely done.
>

i have touchosc.  i had a problem with it (trying to use it with bidule) and
i emailed him/her/them and never heard back.  that little box looks handy as
hell.

>
> Of course the Missing Link is more expensive than the iControlMIDI app, but
> it's usefulness extends beyond just controlling the FS1R if you have any
> other MIDI gear that could benefit from iPad/iPod/iPhone -based wireless
> control.
>

there's the rub: i'm not sure i wanna incorporate a second control protocol
into my setup.  so far good ol' midi is doing fine.  i do, however,
appreciate the inherent flexibility with osc...or at least as far as i can
tell.

please keep me posted re: the matrixsynth editor.

- jim

>
> -Hans
>
> On May 20, 2011, at 6:41 AM, james fowler <twostroke@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> hans - were you referring to these guys:
> <http://www.icontrolmididesign.com/>http://www.icontrolmididesign.com/
>
> - jim
>
>

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n:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div bgcolor=3D"=
#FFFFFF"><div>check <a href=3D"http://wifimidi.com" target=3D"_blank">http:=
//wifimidi.com</a> for the Missing Link, the FS1R editor is just a T<span>o=
uchOSC template. =A0I&#39;ll ping Matrix and see where he is with that, I&#=
39;m sure he&#39;d share a preview even if it&#39;s not completely done.</s=
pan></div>
</div></blockquote><div><br>i have touchosc.=A0 i had a problem with it (tr=
ying to use it with bidule) and i emailed him/her/them and never heard back=
.=A0 that little box looks handy as hell. =A0 <br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid=
 rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><div><br></div><div>Of course the Missing Link is =
more expensive than the iControlMIDI app, but it&#39;s usefulness extends b=
eyond just controlling the FS1R if you have any other MIDI gear that could =
benefit from iPad/iPod/iPhone -based wireless control.<br>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br>there&#39;s the rub: i&#39;m not sure i w=
anna incorporate a second control protocol into my setup.=A0 so far good ol=
&#39; midi is doing fine.=A0 i do, however, appreciate the inherent flexibi=
lity with osc...or at least as far as i can tell.<br>
<br>please keep me posted re: the matrixsynth editor.=A0 <br><br>- jim <br>=
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;=
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r=3D"#FFFFFF">
<div><font color=3D"#888888"><br>-Hans</font></div><div class=3D"im"><div><=
br>On May 20, 2011, at 6:41 AM, james fowler &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:twostrok=
e@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">twostroke@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></=
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e guys: <a href=3D"http://www.icontrolmididesign.com/" target=3D"_blank"></=
a><a href=3D"http://www.icontrolmididesign.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://w=
ww.icontrolmididesign.com/</a><br>
<br>- jim<br>
</div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><br>

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>
> Oh, come on - everyone knows that the correct way to use a FS1R is not to
> use filters, but to change harmonic content via the operators - quite
> simply, change modulation index for cutoff, modulator relative frequency for
> steepness, and use a second operator pair for a resonant-peak-like behaviour
> (and a modulator for the first modulator for distortion) ;)
>

of course.  it's right there on page...er...wait a minute.

i love yamaha.  they build some of the coolest shit.  but they dropped the
ball on the documentation of the FS1R.  bad-ass machine, piss-poor manual.


> Seriously, though, as some already pointed out, there are quite a few
> (free) editors for the FS1R around, like this:
> http://synth-voice.sakura.ne.jp/fs1r_editor_english.html
>

i've got that one.  i guess i need to spend more time with it.  it doesn't
appear to like sharing midi ports w/ bidule.  kinda clunky.

>
> Envelope follower in Reaktor: use the detector circuit from the compressor
> contained in the library as a starting point. Or, much better, simply
> connect an ADSR to the filter's frequency input and trigger that with the
> MIDI notes which also control the FS1R (and use the same notes' note number
> on the filter frequency input for keytracking).
>

i know there's so much power locked up inside reaktor...i just don't have
the time to really dig into it.  it would take forever before i would be
able to build anything even remotely as useful as the commercial filters
mentioned above.  i'd rather just buy something that already rules ; )

But then again - why would you want to get a subtractive-synth-type sound
> from a FS1R? Wouldn't it work better if you used some other synth from the
> start (just wondering)?
>

not sure i was thinking about it in those terms.  i just have a sound in my
head and i know that filtering is how to achieve it.


> Another hardware-domain suggestion (I know, I suggest that one every time):
> Nord Micromodular. Small and relatively cheap, you could use it as an effect
> on the FS1R's outputs (or rather some of its outputs). And you got nice
> multimode filters, and the possibility to use MIDI-triggered envelopes and
> key tracking right from the start.
>

nah, the pros of software outweigh the pros of hardware.  i'm sure that a
sherman filterbank absolutely destroys the best software but that's
loot/space/i/o i ain't got.

thanks for all your input.

- jim

>
>         Rainer
>
>
> james fowler schrieb:
>
>  thanks, guys.  allow me to expand/clarify:
>>
>> i'd like to filter the sounds of my FS1R.  it has filters but they either
>> don't do what i want or i can't figure them out because the manual sucks and
>> scrolling through sub-menu after sub-menu is enough to make anybody's brain
>> melt...not to mention taking the fun out of it.  i'll invariably end up
>> using it on my obi matrix and roland mks-50 which both feature limited
>> filters.  i'd like something with an envelope follower (lots of them don't
>> do this - the filters in reaktor don't, for example).  i'm resolved to fact
>> that i need to shell out some $$$ for something worth having but wanted to
>> make sure i'm not barking up the wrong tree trying to find a respectable
>> piece of software.
>>
>> i'll give those three a shot.  thanks for the input.
>>
>> - jim
>>
>
>
> --
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n:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Oh, come on - ev=
eryone knows that the correct way to use a FS1R is not to use filters, but =
to change harmonic content via the operators - quite simply, change modulat=
ion index for cutoff, modulator relative frequency for steepness, and use a=
 second operator pair for a resonant-peak-like behaviour (and a modulator f=
or the first modulator for distortion) ;)<br>
</blockquote><div><br>of course.=A0 it&#39;s right there on page...er...wai=
t a minute.=A0 <br><br>i love yamaha.=A0 they build some of the coolest shi=
t.=A0 but they dropped the ball on the documentation of the FS1R.=A0 bad-as=
s machine, piss-poor manual.=A0 <br>
=A0<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt=
 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Seriously, though, as some already pointed out, there are quite a few (free=
) editors for the FS1R around, like this:<br>
<a href=3D"http://synth-voice.sakura.ne.jp/fs1r_editor_english.html" target=
=3D"_blank">http://synth-voice.sakura.ne.jp/fs1r_editor_english.html</a><br=
></blockquote><div><br>i&#39;ve got that one.=A0 i guess i need to spend mo=
re time with it.=A0 it doesn&#39;t appear to like sharing midi ports w/ bid=
ule.=A0 kinda clunky.=A0 <br>
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;=
 border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
Envelope follower in Reaktor: use the detector circuit from the compressor =
contained in the library as a starting point. Or, much better, simply conne=
ct an ADSR to the filter&#39;s frequency input and trigger that with the MI=
DI notes which also control the FS1R (and use the same notes&#39; note numb=
er on the filter frequency input for keytracking).<br>
</blockquote><div>=A0<br>i know there&#39;s so much power locked up inside =
reaktor...i just don&#39;t have the time to really dig into it.=A0 it would=
 take forever before i would be able to build anything even remotely as use=
ful as the commercial filters mentioned above.=A0 i&#39;d rather just buy s=
omething that already rules ; )<br>
<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.=
8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
But then again - why would you want to get a subtractive-synth-type sound f=
rom a FS1R? Wouldn&#39;t it work better if you used some other synth from t=
he start (just wondering)?<br></blockquote><div><br>not sure i was thinking=
 about it in those terms.=A0 i just have a sound in my head and i know that=
 filtering is how to achieve it.<br>
=A0<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt=
 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Another hardware-domain suggestion (I know, I suggest that one every time):=
 Nord Micromodular. Small and relatively cheap, you could use it as an effe=
ct on the FS1R&#39;s outputs (or rather some of its outputs). And you got n=
ice multimode filters, and the possibility to use MIDI-triggered envelopes =
and key tracking right from the start.<br>
</blockquote><div><br>nah, the pros of software outweigh the pros of hardwa=
re.=A0 i&#39;m sure that a sherman filterbank absolutely destroys the best =
software but that&#39;s loot/space/i/o i ain&#39;t got.<br><br>thanks for a=
ll your input.<br>
<br>- jim <br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt =
0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex=
;">
<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer<br>
<br>
<br>
james fowler schrieb:<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
thanks, guys. =A0allow me to expand/clarify:<br>
<br>
i&#39;d like to filter the sounds of my FS1R. =A0it has filters but they ei=
ther don&#39;t do what i want or i can&#39;t figure them out because the ma=
nual sucks and scrolling through sub-menu after sub-menu is enough to make =
anybody&#39;s brain melt...not to mention taking the fun out of it. =A0i&#3=
9;ll invariably end up using it on my obi matrix and roland mks-50 which bo=
th feature limited filters. =A0i&#39;d like something with an envelope foll=
ower (lots of them don&#39;t do this - the filters in reaktor don&#39;t, fo=
r example). =A0i&#39;m resolved to fact that i need to shell out some $$$ f=
or something worth having but wanted to make sure i&#39;m not barking up th=
e wrong tree trying to find a respectable piece of software.<br>

<br>
i&#39;ll give those three a shot. =A0thanks for the input.<br>
<br>
- jim<br>
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<P><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=2><FONT face=arial,sans-serif>It wouldn't be too difficult to build a small power supply using a UPS battery or small motorcycle battery that could supply several pedals for many hours. It could have 12VDC outputs and some regulated 9VDC outputs, be relatively small, rechargeable, etc. I'm pretty sure the Rang III could run directly off the 12VDC and would probably run 2-3 hours for every 1000mAH of battery capacity. Maybe it could be built into the amp for easy transport. Just a thought. Cheaper in the long run too since batteries have gotten soooo expensive these days.</FONT></FONT></FONT></P>
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Hey Gang,  I'm trying to get rid of a few pedals to free up some money  
to buy other stuff, what a shock.

  they are the following items.

  A Pigtronix Philosopher King,
  I know I know, let the cat calling begin, I had hoped the ADSR  
feature on this unit would take the place of the volume swell+ delay  
effect I use allot on the Dl-4 and M-9, but it doesn't quite behave  
the same way, and it takes up too much real estate on my pedal board  
which is eagerly anticipating the arrival of an LP-2, I wish I had  
thought ahead when I got this,  Its an excellent sounding and feeling  
compressor, It has less than an hour of use, and is loaded with  
options for the tweak minded. I'm back to using one compressor, my  
trusty keeley two knobber, which leads us to the next item.

A Carl Martin Compressor,
  this guy is actually a bit cleaner sounding than my Keeley and is ac  
powered, but i like the sound and response of the keeley better, i  
can't even explain why.

  A HomeBrew Germanium, this purple gem is a treble booster that works  
best in front of a distorted or dark sounding amp. to give it more  
teeth, I got it to add some top end to my pre-top boost vox ac 10, but  
decided to go in a more flexible direction with a HomeBrew Detox EQ, a  
three band eq that I can cut or boost frequencies and gain with.

a TC Electronic Nova reverb, this is one of the best pedal verbs on  
the market, but i'm having a real estate issue on my board, and have  
gone back to using a rack mount TC G-sharp, or Fireworx ( yes i  
decided to hang on to it and use it in the studio as a stereo SPDF  
effects channel, for post loop effects), or spring reverb..

a Rane SM-82 splitter mixer,  this has a new power supply and the old  
one as well. I've found a way to route my Dtar preamp and looper for  
stereo operation so i don't need this any more.

  all items are in excellent conditon. The PK is in new condition,  
Please contact me OFF LIST if interested
  Thanks,
  Bill
  

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james fowler schrieb:
>
>     But then again - why would you want to get a
>     subtractive-synth-type sound from a FS1R? Wouldn't it work better
>     if you used some other synth from the start (just wondering)?
>
>
> not sure i was thinking about it in those terms. i just have a sound 
> in my head and i know that filtering is how to achieve it.
I believe that is an important starting point. While with the complexity 
and power of today's synths, it's typically possible to do any type of 
sound with any type of synth. I can do bell-like artifical Eighties 
sounds with a virtual analog, such as the Waldorf Q. I also can do a 
303-style bass, complete with filter sweeps, with a FS1R. However, I'll 
probably will find it easier to get the bell-like sound with the FS1R 
and vice versa. So depending on what you have available on the sw/hw 
side, and what kind of sound you're after, another synth altogether 
might be the right way to go.

In addition to that, some synthesis concepts are easier to grasp 
intuitively. "Three basic and separate aspects of the sound are shaped 
in the three main sections of oscillator, filter and amplifier. You set 
the general sound characteristic with the waveform for the oscillators 
(from left to right: pure to shrill), and the pitch of each oscillator 
with the octave. Want some combination? Do a linear superposition of two 
(or three) oscillators. Then the filter section. Turning cutoff to the 
left makes the sound more dull, to the right more bright. And finally 
the amplifier section, and with it the most-important envelope of any 
synthesizer. With that envelope, you adjust how the sound develops over 
time, so to speak: gently coming in with long attack, percussive 
behaviour with low sustain and short decay and so on. Even the more 
advanced stuff – like doing some “mwah” with the filter envelope – is 
really easy to grasp if you spend some time with one of those." [1].
Using FM synthesis, this is kinda different. Synthesis looses much of 
its intuitive character if you have to work with double integrals in 
your head. So with the FS1R, it's not only the manual, it's the 
architecture. The time-honored DX7 (which, btw, didn't have filters), 
created a big aftermarket for people who would write books on how to 
program sounds, or sell soundsets. Now the FS1R has a much more complex 
architecture compared to the DX7, so it's obvious it's kinda hard to grasp.

Btw, I just had to check - there is a straightforward multimode filter 
in the FS1R - it's on page 53 of the manual, and you simply find it via 
Edit->Voice->Common->Filter, except for the options which are under 
Edit->Performance->Part->Tone, Options 7-10 ;).

For me, an approach to get how a certain thing is done on a synth is to 
go from a preset. E.g. use preset A012 "Technical" (an analog-style bass 
with filter cutoff modulated by the mod wheel) and work from there?


Yours,

Rainer

[1]: I did a blog article called "is there a perfect synthesizer" - 
http://moinsound.wordpress.com/2011/02/27/is-there-a-perfect-synthesizer/

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William Walker wrote:

>  A Pigtronix Philosopher King,
>  I know I know, let the cat calling begin,

mu?

> I had hoped the ADSR feature 
> on this unit would take the place of the volume swell+ delay effect I 
> use allot on the Dl-4 and M-9, but it doesn't quite behave the same way, 

interesting...
...how's it different?

triggering?
the "way the note fades in"?
other?
or because the line6 units have some kind of interaction
between the attack and the delay part?

just curious

andy

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If I knew anything about electronics, I might...but I don't even know where
to start looking to learn how to put such a thing together, and my
understanding is that this is an area where you don't want to just guess &
hope.

Zak Kramer


On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Grant <grantmepeace@mindspring.com> wrote:

>  It wouldn't be too difficult to build a small power supply using a UPS
> battery or small motorcycle battery that could supply several pedals for
> many hours. It could have 12VDC outputs and some regulated 9VDC outputs, be
> relatively small, rechargeable, etc. I'm pretty sure the Rang III could run
> directly off the 12VDC and would probably run 2-3 hours for every 1000mAH of
> battery capacity. Maybe it could be built into the amp for easy transport.
> Just a thought. Cheaper in the long run too since batteries have gotten
> soooo expensive these days.
>
>
>
> G
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zak Kramer
> Sent: May 20, 2011 4:59 PM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: Corrections: Footprint of the LP-2 Mini Looper
>
> [insert indignant castigation here]
>
> I'm really looking forwards to the box, whatever its dimensions. It does
> still have the ability to run on batteries, yes? This is as much my
> attraction to the looper as all the other stuff; I busk weekly (when its not
> monsoon season) and so portability is key. I use an RC-20XL now, but I find
> it very limiting, as I elsewise use a Boomerang III.
>
> Zak Kramer
>
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If I knew anything about electronics, I might...but I don&#39;t even know=
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where to start looking to learn how to put such a thing together, and my
 understanding is that this is an area where you don&#39;t want to just=20
guess &amp; hope.<br><br clear=3D"all">Zak Kramer<br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Grant =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:grantmepeace@mindspring.com">grantm=
epeace@mindspring.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1e=
x;">




<div>
<p><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"arial,sans-serif"=
>It wouldn&#39;t be too difficult to build a small power supply using a UPS=
 battery or small motorcycle battery that could supply several pedals for m=
any hours. It could have 12VDC outputs and some regulated 9VDC outputs, be =
relatively small, rechargeable, etc. I&#39;m pretty sure the Rang III could=
 run directly off the 12VDC and would probably run 2-3 hours for every 1000=
mAH of battery capacity. Maybe it could be built into the amp for easy tran=
sport. Just a thought. Cheaper in the long run too since batteries have got=
ten soooo expensive these days.</font></font></font></p>

<p><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"arial,sans-serif"=
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<p><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"arial,sans-serif"=
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<p><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"arial,sans-serif"=
>=A0</font></font></font></p>
<p><br></p>
<blockquote style=3D"border-left:#0000ff 2px solid;padding-left:5px;margin-=
left:0px">-----Original Message----- <br>From: Zak Kramer <br>Sent: May 20,=
 2011 4:59 PM <br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=
" target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a> <br>
Subject: Re: Corrections: Footprint of the LP-2 Mini Looper <br><br>[insert=
 indignant castigation here]<br><br>I&#39;m really looking forwards to the =
box, whatever its dimensions. It does still have the ability to run on batt=
eries, yes? This is as much my attraction to the looper as all the other st=
uff; I busk weekly (when its not monsoon season) and so portability is key.=
 I use an RC-20XL now, but I find it very limiting, as I elsewise use a Boo=
merang III.<br>
<br clear=3D"all">Zak Kramer<br></blockquote></div></div></div>

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Per or possibly anyone, I thought I recall someone mentioning for the Mac a=
n
audio capture to grab anything inbound to the Mac.  I have thusfar when
saving a Mobius session have ported out of my Tascam 122 Line Out and fed i=
n
to another laptop in to Audacity.  Is there something I can do to capture
the mobius session on board the same machine that it's running on?  The
other works I'm just looking for more portability at times.  I don't suppos=
e
I'm overlooking something about Mobius that allows me to mix down or
actually bet I am. I could send all loops to one track maybe, no?

Thanks folks

Jim

--=20
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&
Peter Th=F6rn.  Proceeds
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Per or possibly anyone, I thought I recall someone mentioning for the Mac a=
n audio capture to grab anything inbound to the Mac. =A0I have thusfar when=
 saving a Mobius session have ported out of my Tascam 122 Line Out and fed =
in to another laptop in to Audacity. =A0Is there something I can do to capt=
ure the mobius session on board the same machine that it&#39;s running on? =
=A0The other works I&#39;m just looking for more portability at times. =A0I=
 don&#39;t suppose I&#39;m overlooking something about Mobius that allows m=
e to mix down or actually bet I am. I could send all loops to one track may=
be, no?<div>
<br></div><div>Thanks folks</div><div><br></div><div>Jim<br clear=3D"all"><=
br>-- <br><i>From Brooklyn To Glindran</i>, a new World/Free Jazz recording=
 by Jim Goodin &amp; Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds<br>from the sale of this CD=
 will benefit JDRF International.=A0 <a href=3D"http://jimgoodinpeterthorn.=
bandcamp.com" target=3D"_blank">jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com</a>.<br>
<br><a href=3D"http://woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com" target=3D"_blank">woo=
dandwiremusic.wordpress.com</a><br>
</div>

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Mobius has a built-in function to render a 32 bit floating point wave
file of the main stereo output from the looper. Look for the command
Start Audio Recording and assign it to something (MIDI note or a
laptop key). You also need to use the command Stop Audio Recording and
Save Audio Recording.

Or you can buy and use AudioHijack Pro, http://www.rogueamoeba.com/

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub



On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrot=
e:
> Per or possibly anyone, I thought I recall someone mentioning for the Mac=
 an
> audio capture to grab anything inbound to the Mac. =C2=A0I have thusfar w=
hen
> saving a Mobius session have ported out of my Tascam 122 Line Out and fed=
 in
> to another laptop in to Audacity. =C2=A0Is there something I can do to ca=
pture
> the mobius session on board the same machine that it's running on? =C2=A0=
The
> other works I'm just looking for more portability at times. =C2=A0I don't=
 suppose
> I'm overlooking something about Mobius that allows me to mix down or
> actually bet I am. I could send all loops to one track maybe, no?
> Thanks folks
> Jim
>
> --
> From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin =
&
> Peter Th=C3=B6rn.=C2=A0 Proceeds
> from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.
> jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.
>
> woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com
>

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Per excellent.  I saw the Stop Audio Recording in the UI Buttons and someho=
w
didn't get it.  Thank you very much for pointing out.  Greetings from
Brooklyn.

On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> Mobius has a built-in function to render a 32 bit floating point wave
> file of the main stereo output from the looper. Look for the command
> Start Audio Recording and assign it to something (MIDI note or a
> laptop key). You also need to use the command Stop Audio Recording and
> Save Audio Recording.
>
> Or you can buy and use AudioHijack Pro, http://www.rogueamoeba.com/
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> www.looproom.com internet music hub
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Per or possibly anyone, I thought I recall someone mentioning for the M=
ac
> an
> > audio capture to grab anything inbound to the Mac.  I have thusfar when
> > saving a Mobius session have ported out of my Tascam 122 Line Out and f=
ed
> in
> > to another laptop in to Audacity.  Is there something I can do to captu=
re
> > the mobius session on board the same machine that it's running on?  The
> > other works I'm just looking for more portability at times.  I don't
> suppose
> > I'm overlooking something about Mobius that allows me to mix down or
> > actually bet I am. I could send all loops to one track maybe, no?
> > Thanks folks
> > Jim
> >
> > --
> > From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodi=
n
> &
> > Peter Th=F6rn.  Proceeds
> > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.
> > jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.
> >
> > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com
> >
>
>


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&
Peter Th=F6rn.  Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.
jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com

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Per excellent. =A0I saw the Stop Audio Recording in the UI Buttons and some=
how didn&#39;t get it. =A0Thank you very much for pointing out. =A0Greeting=
s from Brooklyn.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, May 21, 2011 at =
5:17 PM, Per Boysen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail=
.com">perboysen@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Mobius has a built-in function to render a =
32 bit floating point wave<br>
file of the main stereo output from the looper. Look for the command<br>
Start Audio Recording and assign it to something (MIDI note or a<br>
laptop key). You also need to use the command Stop Audio Recording and<br>
Save Audio Recording.<br>
<br>
Or you can buy and use AudioHijack Pro, <a href=3D"http://www.rogueamoeba.c=
om/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.rogueamoeba.com/</a><br>
<br>
Greetings from Sweden<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Per Boysen<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.boysen.se" target=3D"_blank">www.boysen.se</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com" target=3D"_blank">www.perboysen.com</a=
><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.looproom.com" target=3D"_blank">www.looproom.com</a> =
internet music hub<br>
</font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Jim Goodin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jimgoodin=
music@gmail.com">jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Per or possibly anyone, I thought I recall someone mentioning for the =
Mac an<br>
&gt; audio capture to grab anything inbound to the Mac. =A0I have thusfar w=
hen<br>
&gt; saving a Mobius session have ported out of my Tascam 122 Line Out and =
fed in<br>
&gt; to another laptop in to Audacity. =A0Is there something I can do to ca=
pture<br>
&gt; the mobius session on board the same machine that it&#39;s running on?=
 =A0The<br>
&gt; other works I&#39;m just looking for more portability at times. =A0I d=
on&#39;t suppose<br>
&gt; I&#39;m overlooking something about Mobius that allows me to mix down =
or<br>
&gt; actually bet I am. I could send all loops to one track maybe, no?<br>
&gt; Thanks folks<br>
&gt; Jim<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Good=
in &amp;<br>
&gt; Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds<br>
&gt; from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com" target=3D"_blank">=
jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com</a>.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com" target=3D"_blank">wo=
odandwiremusic.wordpress.com</a><br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><i>From Bro=
oklyn To Glindran</i>, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin &amp; =
Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds<br>from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF In=
ternational.=A0 <a href=3D"http://jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com" target=
=3D"_blank">jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com</a>.<br>
<br><a href=3D"http://woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com" target=3D"_blank">woo=
dandwiremusic.wordpress.com</a><br>

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mu?


Oink ?

The line 6 volume swell effect seems a bit more forgiving, i don't  
have to feel like I have to wait to let notes decay below a certain  
volume  threshold before re-triggering the effect again. Also ,fore  
sure, having the delay effect tied to it and how interactive the  
expression pedal is with those variables, i just liked the effect  
better. I will most likely end up buying an M-5 to do that and a few  
other Line 6 effects  on my looping  board that can no longer  
accomodate something the size of my M-9, which is parked on my other  
board that i use for more conventional band gigs. Or just do without  
the effect altogether,  and use the volume pots on my instruments  
which i have been doing for years before ADSR's and Volume swell/  
delay effects were available:-)  Its just with my looping rig and how  
busy my feet are, riding a volume pedal is out of the question.
Bill

> interesting...
> ...how's it different?
>
> triggering?
> the "way the note fades in"?
> other?
> or because the line6 units have some kind of interaction
> between the attack and the delay part?
>
> just curious
>
> andy
>


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style=3D"font-size: 13px;"><br></span></font><div><div>The line 6 volume =
swell effect seems a bit more forgiving, i don't have to feel like I =
have to wait to let notes decay below a certain volume &nbsp;threshold =
before re-triggering the effect again. Also ,fore sure, having the delay =
effect tied to it and how interactive the expression pedal is with those =
variables, i just liked the effect better. I will most likely end up =
buying an M-5 to do that and a few other Line 6 effects &nbsp;on my =
looping &nbsp;board that can no longer accomodate something the size of =
my M-9, which is parked on my other board that i use for more =
conventional band gigs. Or just do without the effect altogether, =
&nbsp;and use the volume pots on my instruments which i have been doing =
for years before ADSR's and Volume swell/ delay effects were =
available:-)&nbsp;&nbsp;Its just with my looping rig and how busy my =
feet are, riding a volume pedal is out of the =
question.</div><div>Bill</div><br =
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different?<br><br>triggering?<br>the "way the note fades =
in"?<br>other?<br>or because the line6 units have some kind of =
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Hey guys,

One of the great features of the Loopers Delight mailing list is that it is
archived with hundreds of thousands of searchable posts.

If any of these wonderful solutions you are suggesting are to help 
future loopers
you need to be conscious and change SUBJECT line of the email
so that it can be searched.

This is a great topic but has nothing to do with the original Footprint 
of the LP-2 post I made
initially.

If you want it threaded,,  in the future just write

Custom Power Supply for the Boomerang     was:  Footprint of the LP-2 
Mini Looper
in your header.

Rick
and oldbie at L.D.


On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Grant wrote:
>
> It wouldn't be too difficult to build a small power supply using a UPS 
> battery or small motorcycle battery that could supply several pedals 
> for many hours. It could have 12VDC outputs and some regulated 9VDC 
> outputs, be relatively small, rechargeable, etc. I'm pretty sure the 
> Rang III could run directly off the 12VDC and would probably run 2-3 
> hours for every 1000mAH of battery capacity. Maybe it could be built 
> into the amp for easy transport. Just a thought. Cheaper in the long 
> run too since batteries have gotten soooo expensive these days.
>
> G
>
>
>     -----Original Message-----
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>     To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>     Subject: Re: Corrections: Footprint of the LP-2 Mini Looper
>
>     [insert indignant castigation here]
>
>     I'm really looking forwards to the box, whatever its dimensions.
>     It does still have the ability to run on batteries, yes? This is
>     as much my attraction to the looper as all the other stuff; I busk
>     weekly (when its not monsoon season) and so portability is key. I
>     use an RC-20XL now, but I find it very limiting, as I elsewise use
>     a Boomerang III.
>
>     Zak Kramer
>

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Ruelle Benoit schrieb:
> I have the microX, the microkorg and the micro sampler.
> The micro x is the one to be choosen for real sounds, beeing a triton 
> in a small form but a b*** to program without the editor. 2 octave 
> keyborad only. 
Thanks, Ben, for pointing the microX out - I wasn't aware of it, I hope 
this won't trigger some gear lust...
However, there's one thing I don't get with Korg. If we look at the 
synth keyboards with small keyboard range (i.e. <5oct).
  * mircokorg: 4 voices, 37 keys
  * R3: 8 voices, 37 keys
  * microsampler: 12 voices, 37 keys
  * microX: 62 voices, 25 keys

Am I the only one who things this relationship is kinda...odd?
 

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yes Mark,i already have a 61 key korg workstation,im looking for a 2
to 3 octave range like a lot of compact travel friendly midi
controllers
you would think that there would be something simple like that with
basic universal sounds like pianos,organs etc. without all of the
other snick snack,im mean if its possible on a GR-20 guitar synth why
couldnt it...
Luis



On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 8:36 AM, Mark Hamburg <mark@grubmah.com> wrote:
> On May 19, 2011, at 11:20 PM, Johannes Korn wrote:
>
> 2011/5/19 Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>
>>>
>> I have and enjoy the microkorg, but it does NOT have quality strings,
>> vintage pianos or organs in it......repeat =A0does NOT have those sounds=
.
>>
>
> Yes, I forgot to write that the same applies to the Korg R3.
> And by the way, like the mikrokorg, the R3 relly comes to life when sendi=
ng
> it through an effects unit. The internal effects are not bad, but I reall=
y
> like the sound when I mangle it with the Line6 M13. I like to use
> Distortion, Phasers, Tremolo, Wah, Ring Modulator etc.
>
> If looking at virtual analog, which of course won't get many of the
> requested sounds, the Akai Miniak (and it's forebear the Alesis Ion) are
> probably both worth looking at. The Ion engine was very well reviewed in =
its
> time. I would probably be drawn to the Minak myself if it had an aftertou=
ch
> sensitive keyboard (the keyboard on the MPK49 controller is fairly nice) =
and
> if it didn't sacrifice having easy arpeggiation controls purely in favor =
of
> a "phrase arpeggiator" which I'm sure is very cool but harder to use. (I'=
m a
> guitarist looking for some extra sounds as opposed to a keyboard player.)
> If you must have a broader range of sounds, then you probably want to be
> looking at some of the more workstation-ish keyboards but they tend to be=
 61
> keys and up and hence not really tiny though presumably something named t=
he
> Korg microStation is slimmed down in some way.
> Mark
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oh,i didnt know it had pianos,strings and organs got to check this one
out again most of theo sounds i came across i nyoutube where all those
techno sounds again !
Luis

On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Ruelle Benoit <benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> wrot=
e:
> I have the microX, the microkorg and the micro sampler.
> The micro x is the=A0one to be choosen for real sounds, beeing a triton i=
n a
> small form but a b*** to program without the editor. 2 octave keyborad on=
ly.
>
> The mikrokorg has already been discussed on this topic: nice "analog" sou=
nd,
> some guy managed to do a kind of piano sound but don't expect a trumpet o=
r
> real drums from this thing. No one said however that all controls answer =
to
> midi cc, so a small controller can replace the missing knobs.
>
> The last one: the microsampler might interest you and bring us back on a
> looper topic.
> It's compact, you can sample/mangle your sound, use it as a crude multitr=
ack
> recorder, use it for glitch/experimental stuff, has a little pattern
> sequencer, you can resample several sample=A0in one, use a single sample
> chromatically, with or without time strectching=A0(repeater anyone?), all=
ow
> easy multisampling, sync several loops ...=A0Perhaps it would suite you. =
It's
> fun, it's probably the one in which you can the most easily put your
> signature sound (it's a sampler). The Con is that it takes some time to l=
oad
> a new bank (up to 30 sec for a full loaded bank).
>
> Ben
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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>
>
> 2011/5/19 Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com>
>>
>> btw, I have a MicroKorg. I'm generally happy with it.
>>
>> [...]
>> Cons:
>> --In order to change some settings, you need to dial the settings up
>> on a matrix (which is hard to read in most band settings). This
>> assigns the controls of the 4 knobs.
>
> That' s better in the R3, there you have four knobs you can use to contro=
l
> what you like and save that setting together with the sound patch.
>
>>
>> --About 1/2 of the presets are for stereotypical "techno" sounds or
>> auto-arpeggiator sounds which I would never use.
>
>
> Same in the R3, I overwrote all these presets with my own sounds.
>
>
> --
> jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com
> www.myspace.com/nashorn
>



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I wouldn't rule out finding such a device already available.

Here's an example 

http://tinyurl.com/3t7kpoa

...although I wouldn't recommend buying that particular one,
it's untested, and such batteries don't last forever.



andy

Zak Kramer wrote:
> If I knew anything about electronics, I might...but I don't even know 
> where to start looking to learn how to put such a thing together, and my 
> understanding is that this is an area where you don't want to just guess 
> & hope.
> 
> Zak Kramer
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Grant <grantmepeace@mindspring.com 
> <mailto:grantmepeace@mindspring.com>> wrote:
> 
>     It wouldn't be too difficult to build a small power supply using a
>     UPS battery or small motorcycle battery that could supply several
>     pedals for many hours. It could have 12VDC outputs and some
>     regulated 9VDC outputs, be relatively small, rechargeable, etc. I'm
>     pretty sure the Rang III could run directly off the 12VDC and would
>     probably run 2-3 hours for every 1000mAH of battery capacity. Maybe
>     it could be built into the amp for easy transport. Just a thought.
>     Cheaper in the long run too since batteries have gotten soooo
>     expensive these days.
> 
>      
> 
>     G
> 
>      
> 
> 
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: Zak Kramer
>         Sent: May 20, 2011 4:59 PM
>         To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>         <mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>         Subject: Re: Corrections: Footprint of the LP-2 Mini Looper
> 
>         [insert indignant castigation here]
> 
>         I'm really looking forwards to the box, whatever its dimensions.
>         It does still have the ability to run on batteries, yes? This is
>         as much my attraction to the looper as all the other stuff; I
>         busk weekly (when its not monsoon season) and so portability is
>         key. I use an RC-20XL now, but I find it very limiting, as I
>         elsewise use a Boomerang III.
> 
>         Zak Kramer
> 
> 

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So,  in the final analysis,  a thumbs up or down on this keyboard,
Matt?

Are there any cool experimental functions or way to get the keyboard
to freak out, interestingly?


rick walker



On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Matt Davignon wrote:
> I have a microsampler too. It's another one I haven't figured out much yet.
>
> This keyboard has its uses, but feels like Korg tragically missed the
> opportunity to make something wonderful. I would expect a modern
> sampling keyboard to have these basic features:
> --The ability to adjust start, end and loop points for the selected
> sample on the fly with dedicated controls.
> --ASDR envelopes (attack/sustain/decay/release)
> --a pitch wheel and a mod wheel.
>
> The microsampler has NONE of these things. I believe there's a way to
> edit start, end and loop points, but you have to hunt through menus to
> get there.
>
> It's a great tool for making hip-hop beats that use samples. In fact,
> the feature set is completely steered towards this. It has a nice peak
> detection feature so you could run a drum beat through it, and it
> would split each hit into a different sample automatically. Another
> nice feature lets you sample and assign a key to a sound at the same
> time. When you turn the mode on, you simply hold down the selected
> note for as long as you want it to record a sample. The sample is
> saved to that key. I then use a dry-erase marker on the keys to remind
> me which sample is on each key.
>
> Once you have samples, dedicated switches let you loop and reverse
> them. You can't loop/reverse the samples all at once - only for the
> keys that you're holding down.
>
> One really annoying thing is that the default samples are all
> beatboxing sounds. Apparently whoever designed this keyboard is either
> a beatboxer, or was sleeping with one at the time. I haven't yet
> figured out how to get it to start up with a "blank slate" on the keys
> - or even better, the samples I had previously loaded.
>

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Take a look at this site.

www.streetmusician.co.uk/buskingpower/

On 5/22/11, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> I wouldn't rule out finding such a device already available.
>
> Here's an example
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3t7kpoa
>
> ...although I wouldn't recommend buying that particular one,
> it's untested, and such batteries don't last forever.
>
>
>
> andy
>
> Zak Kramer wrote:
>> If I knew anything about electronics, I might...but I don't even know
>> where to start looking to learn how to put such a thing together, and my
>> understanding is that this is an area where you don't want to just guess
>> & hope.
>>
>> Zak Kramer
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Grant <grantmepeace@mindspring.com
>> <mailto:grantmepeace@mindspring.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     It wouldn't be too difficult to build a small power supply using a
>>     UPS battery or small motorcycle battery that could supply several
>>     pedals for many hours. It could have 12VDC outputs and some
>>     regulated 9VDC outputs, be relatively small, rechargeable, etc. I'm
>>     pretty sure the Rang III could run directly off the 12VDC and would
>>     probably run 2-3 hours for every 1000mAH of battery capacity. Maybe
>>     it could be built into the amp for easy transport. Just a thought.
>>     Cheaper in the long run too since batteries have gotten soooo
>>     expensive these days.
>>
>>
>>
>>     G
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         -----Original Message-----
>>         From: Zak Kramer
>>         Sent: May 20, 2011 4:59 PM
>>         To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>         <mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>>         Subject: Re: Corrections: Footprint of the LP-2 Mini Looper
>>
>>         [insert indignant castigation here]
>>
>>         I'm really looking forwards to the box, whatever its dimensions.
>>         It does still have the ability to run on batteries, yes? This is
>>         as much my attraction to the looper as all the other stuff; I
>>         busk weekly (when its not monsoon season) and so portability is
>>         key. I use an RC-20XL now, but I find it very limiting, as I
>>         elsewise use a Boomerang III.
>>
>>         Zak Kramer
>>
>>
>
>

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Hi matt,
so lets say i want to sample my piano sounds,vintage organs or string
sounds all across the keyboard and switch octaves if i need to
would this be a tidious thing to do? hows the editor?

On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
> So, =A0in the final analysis, =A0a thumbs up or down on this keyboard,
> Matt?
>
> Are there any cool experimental functions or way to get the keyboard
> to freak out, interestingly?
>
>
> rick walker
>
>
>
> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Matt Davignon wrote:
>>
>> I have a microsampler too. It's another one I haven't figured out much
>> yet.
>>
>> This keyboard has its uses, but feels like Korg tragically missed the
>> opportunity to make something wonderful. I would expect a modern
>> sampling keyboard to have these basic features:
>> --The ability to adjust start, end and loop points for the selected
>> sample on the fly with dedicated controls.
>> --ASDR envelopes (attack/sustain/decay/release)
>> --a pitch wheel and a mod wheel.
>>
>> The microsampler has NONE of these things. I believe there's a way to
>> edit start, end and loop points, but you have to hunt through menus to
>> get there.
>>
>> It's a great tool for making hip-hop beats that use samples. In fact,
>> the feature set is completely steered towards this. It has a nice peak
>> detection feature so you could run a drum beat through it, and it
>> would split each hit into a different sample automatically. Another
>> nice feature lets you sample and assign a key to a sound at the same
>> time. When you turn the mode on, you simply hold down the selected
>> note for as long as you want it to record a sample. The sample is
>> saved to that key. I then use a dry-erase marker on the keys to remind
>> me which sample is on each key.
>>
>> Once you have samples, dedicated switches let you loop and reverse
>> them. You can't loop/reverse the samples all at once - only for the
>> keys that you're holding down.
>>
>> One really annoying thing is that the default samples are all
>> beatboxing sounds. Apparently whoever designed this keyboard is either
>> a beatboxer, or was sleeping with one at the time. I haven't yet
>> figured out how to get it to start up with a "blank slate" on the keys
>> - or even better, the samples I had previously loaded.
>>
>
>



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Wait a minute, these must be Osama BL style post-rapture posts from Rick, as=
 I went by his house to pick up his looping post rapture gear sale stuff yes=
terday night and all there was left was a pile of orange pants and tshirt in=
 a lumpy pile in the living room!!!

Wait a minute Rick, do you have email up there????

Five months of End of Days terror now!! No wait, that's Obama Care, heck now=
 I'm confused!!!!

Andy o
(still here, wtfrick, all that preaching praying singing, and I'm outa money=
!!!)=

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On May 22, 2011, at 5:13 AM, Louie Angulo wrote:

> so lets say i want to sample my piano sounds,vintage organs or string
> sounds all across the keyboard and switch octaves if i need to
> would this be a tidious thing to do? hows the editor?



You can take a single sample and spread it across the keyboard  
automatically but I find that only works well for certain types of  
sound. It is not an ESX style sampler, I'm not sure the right  
terminology but it does not seem to have the resolution. So you might  
want a bank with each key preloaded with your string/organ sounds.

I think the editor is pretty good but I can only speak for Mac version.


On May 22, 2011, at 3:33 AM, Rick Walker wrote:

> Are there any cool experimental functions or way to get the keyboard
> to freak out, interestingly?


There is an Auto Next sampling function that will slice incoming audio  
or resamples across selected keys, nice way to discover quirky glitchy  
stuff.
You can fx each sample independently. And you can loop each sample  
independently (up to the voice limit) and then unloop them  
individually or mute them.

Pattern editing is easy and fun.

I have barely scratched the surface of possibilities, but there are a  
bunch of editing things you can do on the fly in the background  
without disrupting the output.
You can edit start and stop point in the editor. But there is a quick  
way into the menus: each key has a label for a dedicated edit function  
so if you hold the key and press <edit> you go directly to the correct  
parameter.

There are a samplepaks that can be downloaded to form a library.

Bunch of videos on Youtube. Search> microsampler.


regards

BobC


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at 5:13 AM, Louie Angulo wrote:</div><br =
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normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: =
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none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; ">so lets say i =
want to sample my piano sounds,vintage organs or string<br>sounds all =
across the keyboard and switch octaves if i need to<br>would this be a =
tidious thing to do? hows the =
editor?</span></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>You =
can take a single sample and spread it across the keyboard automatically =
but I find that only works well for certain types of sound. It is not an =
ESX style sampler, I'm not sure the right terminology but it does not =
seem to have the resolution. So you might want a bank with each key =
preloaded with your string/organ sounds.</div><div><br></div><div>I =
think the editor is pretty good but I can only speak for Mac =
version.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>On May 22, 2011, =
at 3:33 AM, Rick Walker wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: =
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normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; ">Are there any =
cool experimental functions or way to get the keyboard<br>to freak out, =
interestingly?</span></blockquote></div><div><span =
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rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: =
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"><br></span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
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Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; ">There is an =
Auto Next sampling function that will slice incoming audio or resamples =
across selected keys, nice way to discover quirky glitchy =
stuff.</span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; =
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word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; ">You can fx =
each sample independently. And you can loop each sample independently =
(up to the voice limit) and then unloop them individually or mute =
them.</span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; =
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auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; =
"><br></span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
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Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; =
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-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; ">Pattern =
editing is easy and fun.</span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span"=
 style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; =
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auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; =
"><br></span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; ">I have barely =
scratched the surface of possibilities, but there are a bunch of editing =
things you can do on the fly in the background without disrupting the =
output.</span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; ">You can edit =
start and stop point in the editor. But there is a quick way into the =
menus: each key has a label for a dedicated edit function so if you hold =
the key and press &lt;edit&gt; you go directly to the correct =
parameter.</span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; =
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auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; =
"><br></span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
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text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; ">There are a =
samplepaks that can be downloaded to form a =
library.</span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; =
"><br></span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
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normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; ">Bunch of =
videos on Youtube. Search&gt; microsampler.</span></div><div><span =
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rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: =
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  This is something I've been considering, has any one tried this?  I  
wish there was a similar design with  higher voltages  and higher  
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<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">&nbsp;This is something I've been considering, has any one tried this? &nbsp;I wish there was a similar design with &nbsp;higher voltages &nbsp;and higher milli-amp specs. &nbsp;Perhaps something is coming down the road, but they claim you can run higher milli amp draw devices like keyboards with it &nbsp;as well.&nbsp;<a href="http://us.sanyo.com/pedal-juice">http://us.sanyo.com/pedal-juice</a></body></html>
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http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen/suroor-hai

Havent posted any of my music for a while, I test-drove my new hardware gear
today and recorded it at the same time.
Bit dull and monotone piece but, I have to plead not guilty, as I was so
interested in trying things out, progression was not the point... :-)

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Hi

To clarify things a bit:

For each bank, you have 2 "layers", each one on its own midi channel.

The first one  called "sample" holds one sample per key. This is the =
classic drum machine/loops/fx use.
The second one called "keyboard" takes one of the sample of the first =
layer and transpose it. base key=3D"C" and one octave down, 2 octaves =
up. It is not great with all the sounds as said. It's ok for synthy =
sound, but awfull with piano or instrument with a different harmonic =
content for each key.

Now there's a trick. You can use the first layer to multisample. Either =
one sample per key, thats' something you can do on all sampler or with a =
few samples only and then it transposes down the sample to all empty key =
on its left. So you can well made a piano bank with just 5 samples if =
you don't have the time to sample everything.=20

You can't transpose at all, you are limited to the 3 octaves. What I =
sometimes do if i know i'll stay in a given key or with a limited amount =
of chords is sample only the notes I need (in this key/chords) an put =
them on all the physical keys. With 32 key (3*12=3D36), I can store =
(36/7) 5 octaves.
I sometimes even invert notes on the keyboard to break bad habits :-).  =
You can also directly sample your left hand chords.

The editor is OK to put wav files in the sampler, but I more often =
sample other keyboards.

I don't know about the "resolution" problem. I like it's sound. I like =
the FX (the feedback on the delays goes over 100%), you can create new =
textures with the ring modulator (FM like sounds). It's retro sounding, =
it rermember me the sounds of band like the cranes (using akai Sx000 =
think).

Ben



  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: RP Collier=20




  On May 22, 2011, at 5:13 AM, Louie Angulo wrote:


    so lets say i want to sample my piano sounds,vintage organs or =
string
    sounds all across the keyboard and switch octaves if i need to
    would this be a tidious thing to do? hows the editor?




  You can take a single sample and spread it across the keyboard =
automatically but I find that only works well for certain types of =
sound. It is not an ESX style sampler, I'm not sure the right =
terminology but it does not seem to have the resolution. So you might =
want a bank with each key preloaded with your string/organ sounds.


  I think the editor is pretty good but I can only speak for Mac =
version.





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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Hi</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>To clarify things a bit:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>For each bank, you have 2 "layers", =
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>The first one&nbsp; called "sample" =
holds one=20
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use.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>The second one called "keyboard" takes =
one of the=20
sample of the first layer and transpose it. base key=3D"C" and one =
octave down, 2=20
octaves up. It is not great with all the sounds as said. It's ok =
for&nbsp;synthy=20
sound, but awfull with piano or instrument with a different harmonic =
content for=20
each key.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Now&nbsp;there's a trick. You can use =
the first=20
layer to multisample. Either one sample per key, thats' something you=20
can&nbsp;do on all sampler or with&nbsp;a few&nbsp;samples only and then =
it=20
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made a=20
piano bank with just&nbsp;5 samples if you don't have the time to sample =

everything.</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>You can't transpose at all, you are =
limited to the=20
3 octaves. What&nbsp;I sometimes do if i know i'll stay in a given key =
or with a=20
limited amount of chords is sample only the notes&nbsp;I need (in this=20
key/chords) an put&nbsp;them on all the physical keys. With 32 key=20
(3*12=3D36),&nbsp;I can store (36/7) 5 octaves.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I sometimes =
even&nbsp;invert&nbsp;notes&nbsp;on the=20
keyboard&nbsp;to&nbsp;break bad habits :-).&nbsp; You can also directly =
sample=20
your left hand chords.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>The editor is OK to put wav files in =
the sampler,=20
but I more often sample other keyboards.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I don't know about the "resolution" =
problem. I like=20
it's sound. I like the FX (the feedback on the delays goes over 100%), =
you can=20
create new textures with the ring modulator (FM like sounds). It's retro =

sounding, it rermember me the sounds of band like the cranes (using akai =
Sx000=20
think).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Ben</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
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  <DIV=20
  style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: =
black"><BR></DIV><BR>
  <DIV>
  <DIV>On May 22, 2011, at 5:13 AM, Louie Angulo wrote:</DIV><BR=20
  class=3DApple-interchange-newline>
  <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><SPAN=20
    style=3D"WIDOWS: 2; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; =
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    class=3DApple-style-span>so lets say i want to sample my piano =
sounds,vintage=20
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octaves if i=20
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  <DIV>You can take a single sample and spread it across the keyboard=20
  automatically but I find that only works well for certain types of =
sound. It=20
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does=20
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key=20
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>
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I'd say thumbs up, but it has no business being $500 with all the
basic features that it lacks. It is fun to work with.

Since the Teenage Engineering OP-1 came out, I'm tempted to think that
hopefully soon the microsampler won't be the only low-cost hardware
keyboard sampler on the market. If you can wait a year or so, I'd
advise seeing if anything better comes down the pipe.


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On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 3:33 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
> So, =A0in the final analysis, =A0a thumbs up or down on this keyboard,
> Matt?
>
> Are there any cool experimental functions or way to get the keyboard
> to freak out, interestingly?
>
>
> rick walker
>
>
>
> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Matt Davignon wrote:
>>
>> I have a microsampler too. It's another one I haven't figured out much
>> yet.
>>
>> This keyboard has its uses, but feels like Korg tragically missed the
>> opportunity to make something wonderful. I would expect a modern
>> sampling keyboard to have these basic features:
>> --The ability to adjust start, end and loop points for the selected
>> sample on the fly with dedicated controls.
>> --ASDR envelopes (attack/sustain/decay/release)
>> --a pitch wheel and a mod wheel.
>>
>> The microsampler has NONE of these things. I believe there's a way to
>> edit start, end and loop points, but you have to hunt through menus to
>> get there.
>>
>> It's a great tool for making hip-hop beats that use samples. In fact,
>> the feature set is completely steered towards this. It has a nice peak
>> detection feature so you could run a drum beat through it, and it
>> would split each hit into a different sample automatically. Another
>> nice feature lets you sample and assign a key to a sound at the same
>> time. When you turn the mode on, you simply hold down the selected
>> note for as long as you want it to record a sample. The sample is
>> saved to that key. I then use a dry-erase marker on the keys to remind
>> me which sample is on each key.
>>
>> Once you have samples, dedicated switches let you loop and reverse
>> them. You can't loop/reverse the samples all at once - only for the
>> keys that you're holding down.
>>
>> One really annoying thing is that the default samples are all
>> beatboxing sounds. Apparently whoever designed this keyboard is either
>> a beatboxer, or was sleeping with one at the time. I haven't yet
>> figured out how to get it to start up with a "blank slate" on the keys
>> - or even better, the samples I had previously loaded.
>>
>
>

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http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2011/110521.html

The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts.  When I am
at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear
electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix
of other genres.  The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EDT/GMT-4 on
WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet.  I also host Afterglow
every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am.
http://soundscapes.us/afterglow/index.html

                 Show #199                May 21, 2011.

On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music
magazine.  Each contemporary issue comes with a CD.  However, the early
issues came with a cassette.  The cassettes from issues one through
thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic
slip covers with artwork and track details.  Details are at:
http://sequencesmagazine.com

Phase I/Space:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Anthony Paul Kerby   Gathering Memories   Distant Shadows (Construct)
   and Tomas Weiss
VA [Bjorn Lynne]     Electroglow          Sequences No. 14
VA [Chris Snidow]    Firmament of the     Sequences No. 14
                        Heavens
VA [Tom Habes]       Sudden Exposure      Sequences No. 14
Ian Boddy and        Hidden               Exit Strategy(DiN)
   Parallel Worlds
Ian Boddy and        Return               Exit Strategy(DiN)
   Parallel Worlds


Phase II/Eclectic:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Luup                 Cream Sky            Meadow Rituals (Experimedia)
Brian Crain          In the Meadow        Piano and Light (none)
Divine Matrix        Invisible Landscapes Invisible Landscapes (A.D.
                                             Music)
Tuck & Patti         Time After Time      Pure (Windham Hill)
Lisa Lynne and       A Fond Wish          Weaving World (none)
   Aryeh Frankfurter


Phase III/Progressive Rock:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Erik Norlander       Pirates              Homage Symphonique (Think Tank)
Neal Morse           Seeds of Gold        Testimony 2 (Radiant)


  * = excerpt
++ = Advanced CDR from artist
VA = Various Artists (compilation)

On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that
come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine.

Bill Fox
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Matt Davignon schrieb:
> I'm tempted to think that
> hopefully soon the microsampler won't be the only low-cost hardware
> keyboard sampler on the market. If you can wait a year or so, I'd
> advise seeing if anything better comes down the pipe.
>   
That would be great, but on the other hand, with that huge number of 
loop things that have come out in recent years, and all of them failing 
to provide "the" feature set...sampler-wise, I think it's still better 
to wait that the prices on the K2600S drop some - btw, thanks for doing 
the RIGS! video with Thomas DiMuzio; it really shows what you can do 
with live sampling.
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6SSlv-1Zew)

            Rainer

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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Andy Owens wrote:
> Wait a minute, these must be Osama BL style post-rapture posts from Rick, as I went by his house to pick up his looping post rapture gear sale stuff yesterday night and all there was left was a pile of orange pants and tshirt in a lumpy pile in the living room!!!
>
> Wait a minute Rick, do you have email up there????
>
> Five months of End of Days terror now!! No wait, that's Obama Care, heck now I'm confused!!!!
>
> Andy o
> (still here, wtfrick, all that preaching praying singing, and I'm outa money!!!)
No, just joking, Andy,    but thanks for sending me all that money.
Now I'm going to buy duplicates of all of my gear,   even the hard to
find items.

Can I have my orange t-shirts back?

yours,   Rick 'not the Messiah'  Walker

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"dull and monotone"

  don't you mean tranquil and ambient??
  nice loops Petri, so what was you signal path did you mean hardware  
in the literal sense? there are so few of us these days.
Thanks
  bill

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Yes Petri! I also thought it was very nice and my interest is always peaked
by the term hardware on this list :) Yes I am another one of "those" guys
also :) Gory details of signal chain is requested and seconded!
peace,
Jeff

On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 6:13 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com>wrote:

> "dull and monotone"
>
>  don't you mean tranquil and ambient??
>  nice loops Petri, so what was you signal path did you mean hardware in the
> literal sense? there are so few of us these days.
> Thanks
>  bill
>
>

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Yes Petri! I also thought it was very nice and my interest is always peaked=
 by the term hardware on this list :) Yes I am another one of &quot;those&q=
uot; guys also :) Gory details of signal chain is requested and seconded!<b=
r>
peace,<br>Jeff<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 6:=
13 PM, William Walker <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:billwalker@ba=
ymoon.com">billwalker@baymoon.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote clas=
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d rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
&quot;dull and monotone&quot;<br>
<br>
=A0don&#39;t you mean tranquil and ambient??<br>
=A0nice loops Petri, so what was you signal path did you mean hardware in t=
he literal sense? there are so few of us these days.<br>
Thanks<br>
=A0bill<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br>

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I believe that is an important starting point. While with the complexity an=
d
power of today's synths, it's typically possible to do any type of sound
with any type of synth. I can do bell-like artifical Eighties sounds with a
virtual analog, such as the Waldorf Q. I also can do a 303-style bass,
complete with filter sweeps, with a FS1R. However, I'll probably will find
it easier to get the bell-like sound with the FS1R and vice versa. So
depending on what you have available on the sw/hw side, and what kind of
sound you're after, another synth altogether might be the right way to go.

- yeah, but i would argue that the yamaha does everything well ; )  i
appreciate the notion of not knowing the right thing to do in every
instance.  unintentional misuse has resulted in lots of cool stuff...

In addition to that, some synthesis concepts are easier to grasp
> intuitively. "Three basic and separate aspects of the sound are shaped in
> the three main sections of oscillator, filter and amplifier. You set the
> general sound characteristic with the waveform for the oscillators (from
> left to right: pure to shrill), and the pitch of each oscillator with the
> octave. Want some combination? Do a linear superposition of two (or three=
)
> oscillators. Then the filter section. Turning cutoff to the left makes th=
e
> sound more dull, to the right more bright. And finally the amplifier
> section, and with it the most-important envelope of any synthesizer. With
> that envelope, you adjust how the sound develops over time, so to speak:
> gently coming in with long attack, percussive behaviour with low sustain =
and
> short decay and so on. Even the more advanced stuff =96 like doing some =
=93mwah=94
> with the filter envelope =96 is really easy to grasp if you spend some ti=
me
> with one of those." [1].
> Using FM synthesis, this is kinda different. Synthesis looses much of its
> intuitive character if you have to work with double integrals in your hea=
d.
> So with the FS1R, it's not only the manual, it's the architecture. The
> time-honored DX7 (which, btw, didn't have filters), created a big
> aftermarket for people who would write books on how to program sounds, or
> sell soundsets. Now the FS1R has a much more complex architecture compare=
d
> to the DX7, so it's obvious it's kinda hard to grasp.
>

gonna read your spiel.  sounds interesting.

>
> Btw, I just had to check - there is a straightforward multimode filter in
> the FS1R - it's on page 53 of the manual, and you simply find it via
> Edit->Voice->Common->Filter, except for the options which are under
> Edit->Performance->Part->Tone, Options 7-10 ;).
>

yep, dunno...guess i scanned right over this section.  thanks for pointing
it out.  gonna have a go at it tonight.

>
> For me, an approach to get how a certain thing is done on a synth is to g=
o
> from a preset. E.g. use preset A012 "Technical" (an analog-style bass wit=
h
> filter cutoff modulated by the mod wheel) and work from there?
>

the long and short of it is that this is a machine that requires a lot of
time to really get your head around.  anybody got some spare time i can
borrow?

thanks rainer.

- jim

>
>
> Yours,
>
> Rainer
>
> [1]: I did a blog article called "is there a perfect synthesizer" -
> http://moinsound.wordpress.com/2011/02/27/is-there-a-perfect-synthesizer/
>
>
> --
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I believe that is an important starting point. While with the complexity an=
d power of today&#39;s synths, it&#39;s typically possible to do any type o=
f sound with any type of synth. I can do bell-like artifical Eighties sound=
s with a virtual analog, such as the Waldorf Q. I also can do a 303-style b=
ass, complete with filter sweeps, with a FS1R. However, I&#39;ll probably w=
ill find it easier to get the bell-like sound with the FS1R and vice versa.=
 So depending on what you have available on the sw/hw side, and what kind o=
f sound you&#39;re after, another synth altogether might be the right way t=
o go.<br>
<br>- yeah, but i would argue that the yamaha does everything well ; )=A0 i=
 appreciate the notion of not knowing the right thing to do in every instan=
ce.=A0 unintentional misuse has resulted in lots of cool stuff...<br><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote">
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
In addition to that, some synthesis concepts are easier to grasp intuitivel=
y. &quot;Three basic and separate aspects of the sound are shaped in the th=
ree main sections of oscillator, filter and amplifier. You set the general =
sound characteristic with the waveform for the oscillators (from left to ri=
ght: pure to shrill), and the pitch of each oscillator with the octave. Wan=
t some combination? Do a linear superposition of two (or three) oscillators=
. Then the filter section. Turning cutoff to the left makes the sound more =
dull, to the right more bright. And finally the amplifier section, and with=
 it the most-important envelope of any synthesizer. With that envelope, you=
 adjust how the sound develops over time, so to speak: gently coming in wit=
h long attack, percussive behaviour with low sustain and short decay and so=
 on. Even the more advanced stuff =96 like doing some =93mwah=94 with the f=
ilter envelope =96 is really easy to grasp if you spend some time with one =
of those.&quot; [1].<br>

Using FM synthesis, this is kinda different. Synthesis looses much of its i=
ntuitive character if you have to work with double integrals in your head. =
So with the FS1R, it&#39;s not only the manual, it&#39;s the architecture. =
The time-honored DX7 (which, btw, didn&#39;t have filters), created a big a=
ftermarket for people who would write books on how to program sounds, or se=
ll soundsets. Now the FS1R has a much more complex architecture compared to=
 the DX7, so it&#39;s obvious it&#39;s kinda hard to grasp.<br>
</blockquote><div><br>gonna read your spiel.=A0 sounds interesting. <br></d=
iv><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; bo=
rder-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
Btw, I just had to check - there is a straightforward multimode filter in t=
he FS1R - it&#39;s on page 53 of the manual, and you simply find it via Edi=
t-&gt;Voice-&gt;Common-&gt;Filter, except for the options which are under E=
dit-&gt;Performance-&gt;Part-&gt;Tone, Options 7-10 ;).<br>
</blockquote><div><br>yep, dunno...guess i scanned right over this section.=
=A0 thanks for pointing it out.=A0 gonna have a go at it tonight. <br></div=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; bord=
er-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">

<br>
For me, an approach to get how a certain thing is done on a synth is to go =
from a preset. E.g. use preset A012 &quot;Technical&quot; (an analog-style =
bass with filter cutoff modulated by the mod wheel) and work from there?<br=
>
</blockquote><div><br>the long and short of it is that this is a machine th=
at requires a lot of time to really get your head around.=A0 anybody got so=
me spare time i can borrow?<br><br>thanks rainer.<br><br>- jim <br></div>
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<br>
Yours,<br>
<br>
Rainer<br>
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 - <a href=3D"http://moinsound.wordpress.com/2011/02/27/is-there-a-perfect-=
synthesizer/" target=3D"_blank">http://moinsound.wordpress.com/2011/02/27/i=
s-there-a-perfect-synthesizer/</a><div>
<div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
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yeah, Pedro surprised me with this bike culture, a while ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DoVNrUx1Ole4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DuMeB0FaU5rA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DRV8xehStLMs
http://dubdaily.com/?p=3D3869
they dont generate the juice for all this stuff by pedaling though :-)

On 19 May 2011, at 04:46, Johannes Korn wrote:

> I once read about a band that did a tour on bicycles. They carried a =
small PA and two bicycle-powered generators. They did open air gigs and =
always recruited two members of the audience to power their concert by =
pedaling during the gig.
> Cool concept.
>=20
>=20
> 2011/5/19 Steve Uccello <stevebassbird@yahoo.com>
> HA HA! I'm sure somebody somewhere has banks of deep cycle marine =
batteries and some kind of charging system (solar or pedal) hooked up to =
a PA & Looping stuff -But hey, I think we already have enough gear to =
haul around to shows already without all that!! Seriously though, I have =
been wanting to get one of those VOX DA5 battery powered amps that Bill =
was talking about in that "small battery powered amp" thread a while =
ago-It would be fun to busk somewhere (or play in the woods) and loop =
sometime.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --- On Wed, 5/18/11, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com> wrote:
>=20
> > From: Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com>
> > Subject: Re: Peter Leinhos etc.
> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 6:12 PM
> > Such an insightful thread this has
> > been.  Long Live Peter Leinhos. RAH!!!
> >
> > > Pedal powered PA-looping system?! I guess you couldn't
> > pedal and have your feet free to push the buttons though!
> >
> > Funny you should mention it... I once played around with a
> > modification to an exercise bike that would govern tempo (or
> > any CC value) based on the front wheel speed and and send
> > separate MIDI CC messages based on cycle counts of the front
> > wheel.  It wasn't pedal powered per se, but it was
> > pedal controlled.  It could easily be adapted to
> > generate low voltage too. (Never mind the crazy project had
> > me trying to do this.) This device, and several other wacky
> > controller concepts are all shoved in a corner of my attic
> > now.  Perhaps after the apocalypse and rapture I'll get
> > around to making some post apocalyptic blues music with
> > them.  Or..  I could just burn in hell with the
> > rest of the laggards.=20
> >
> > Eternal hell fire... thats a kind of looping right?
> >
> > Daniel
> > On  May 18, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Steve Uccello wrote:
> >
> > > Benton PUD!! I used to live in Spokane and always
> > drove thru that neck of the woods back & forth from
> > Santa Cruz, CA, I remember on tour once in Idaho coming
> > across a town that claimed proudly to be the 'first in the
> > USA' to have a nuclear power plant, it had a trippy vibe. I
> > keep hearing Thorium is the 'safe' way to go with nuclear
> > power, but if push comes to shove, can we invent a pedal
> > powered PA-looping system?! I guess you couldn't pedal and
> > have your feet free to push the buttons though!
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 5/18/11, bill bigrig <billbigrig@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> From: bill bigrig <billbigrig@yahoo.com>
> > >> Subject: Peter Leinhos etc.
> > >> To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > >> Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 4:30 PM
> > >> Howdy,
> > >>
> > >> Come to the Tri-cities in WA. No flouride. Might
> > find some
> > >> plutonium, cesium, strontium, and other
> > trans-uranic type
> > >> stuff Though.
> > >> Rig
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
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> jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com
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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">yeah, =
Pedro surprised me with this bike culture, a while ago:<div><div><a =
href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DoVNrUx1Ole4">http://www.youtube.c=
om/watch?v=3DoVNrUx1Ole4</a></div><div><a =
href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DuMeB0FaU5rA">http://www.youtube.c=
om/watch?v=3DuMeB0FaU5rA</a></div><div><a =
href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DRV8xehStLMs">http://www.youtube.c=
om/watch?v=3DRV8xehStLMs</a></div><div><a =
href=3D"http://dubdaily.com/?p=3D3869">http://dubdaily.com/?p=3D3869</a></=
div><div>they dont generate the juice for all this stuff by pedaling =
though :-)</div><div><br></div><div><div>On 19 May 2011, at 04:46, =
Johannes Korn wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite">I once =
read about a band that did a tour on bicycles. They carried a small PA =
and two bicycle-powered generators. They did open air gigs and always =
recruited two members of the audience to power their concert by pedaling =
during the gig.<div>
Cool concept.</div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/5/19 =
Steve Uccello <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:stevebassbird@yahoo.com">stevebassbird@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</s=
pan><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
HA HA! I'm sure somebody somewhere has banks of deep cycle marine =
batteries and some kind of charging system (solar or pedal) hooked up to =
a PA &amp; Looping stuff -But hey, I think we already have enough gear =
to haul around to shows already without all that!! Seriously though, I =
have been wanting to get one of those VOX DA5 battery powered amps that =
Bill was talking about in that "small battery powered amp" thread a =
while ago-It would be fun to busk somewhere (or play in the woods) and =
loop sometime.<br>

<br>
<br>
<br>
--- On Wed, 5/18/11, Daniel Thomas &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:danielthomas4@mac.com">danielthomas4@mac.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; From: Daniel Thomas &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:danielthomas4@mac.com">danielthomas4@mac.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Subject: Re: Peter Leinhos etc.<br>
<div class=3D"im">&gt; To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com</a><br>
</div>&gt; Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 6:12 PM<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">&gt; Such an insightful thread this =
has<br>
&gt; been.&nbsp; Long Live Peter Leinhos. RAH!!!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Pedal powered PA-looping system?! I guess you couldn't<br>
&gt; pedal and have your feet free to push the buttons though!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Funny you should mention it... I once played around with a<br>
&gt; modification to an exercise bike that would govern tempo (or<br>
&gt; any CC value) based on the front wheel speed and and send<br>
&gt; separate MIDI CC messages based on cycle counts of the front<br>
&gt; wheel.&nbsp; It wasn't pedal powered per se, but it was<br>
&gt; pedal controlled.&nbsp; It could easily be adapted to<br>
&gt; generate low voltage too. (Never mind the crazy project had<br>
&gt; me trying to do this.) This device, and several other wacky<br>
&gt; controller concepts are all shoved in a corner of my attic<br>
&gt; now.&nbsp; Perhaps after the apocalypse and rapture I'll get<br>
&gt; around to making some post apocalyptic blues music with<br>
&gt; them.&nbsp; Or..&nbsp; I could just burn in hell with the<br>
&gt; rest of the laggards.&nbsp;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Eternal hell fire... thats a kind of looping right?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Daniel<br>
&gt; On&nbsp; May 18, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Steve Uccello wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Benton PUD!! I used to live in Spokane and always<br>
&gt; drove thru that neck of the woods back &amp; forth from<br>
&gt; Santa Cruz, CA, I remember on tour once in Idaho coming<br>
&gt; across a town that claimed proudly to be the 'first in the<br>
&gt; USA' to have a nuclear power plant, it had a trippy vibe. I<br>
&gt; keep hearing Thorium is the 'safe' way to go with nuclear<br>
&gt; power, but if push comes to shove, can we invent a pedal<br>
&gt; powered PA-looping system?! I guess you couldn't pedal and<br>
&gt; have your feet free to push the buttons though!<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; --- On Wed, 5/18/11, bill bigrig &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:billbigrig@yahoo.com">billbigrig@yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; From: bill bigrig &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:billbigrig@yahoo.com">billbigrig@yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; Subject: Peter Leinhos etc.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com</a><br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 4:30 PM<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; Howdy,<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; Come to the Tri-cities in WA. No flouride. Might<br>
&gt; find some<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; plutonium, cesium, strontium, and other<br>
&gt; trans-uranic type<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; stuff Though.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; Rig<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div><a =
href=3D"mailto:jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com" =
target=3D"_blank">jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com</a></div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/nashorn" =
target=3D"_blank">www.myspace.com/nashorn</a></div><br>
</div>
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Yes Petri! I also thought it was very nice and my interest is always  
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Yes we gotta stick together:-)
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Hi folks,

I've posted another photo essay at 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157626658873373/

Trombonist Tom Plsek and I go back a long way -- we first performed 
together in 1973. Last night (Saturday, May 21), I saw him perform in 
a trio with Junko Simons, cello and Curt Newton, percussion It was an 
inspired evening of sensitive, low-key improvisations.

I usually bring a camera to these events, and I brought my pocket 
sized Lumix LX 3. I took lots of still image, including a lot of 
abstract, futurist images made by setting the shutter speed to one 
second, putting the camera in Full Burst mode, and waving it around 
madly with the button down. Fun stuff! (at least for me!)

BTW Some of my videos can be viewed at
http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld
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I'm new to loping so I'm looking for recognizable tunes which is easy
to perform using simple loopers (like mine Boss RC-2).

Songs have to be:
1. Recogizable while playing instrumental (e.g. bunch of blues tunes
like Two Train Running are hardly recognizable without lyrics)
2. No longer than 8 bars chord progression (and even better to be
shorter), of course anyone who have RC-50 can make some verse-chorus
changes.

I found now perfect tunes to perform
1. Cissy strut (The Meters)
2. Low Rider (The War)
3. Rotcha Scribida (Cesaria Evora)
4. Hit The Road Jack

Also OK
1. Amazing grace (with really simplified chord structure, but anyway too longer)
2. When The Saints go marching in
3. Riders on The Storm (Doors), a bit longer loop than desired
4. Key to the Highway (OK, but a bit longer than I want)
5. bunch of blues tunes which are usually too longer to loop and rare
have recognizable melodies

OK, but have some bridge parts and you'll have to undo chords and
leave rhythm only (not easy with RC-2) or just to stop looping and
playing bridge alone.
1. Caravan (Ellington)
2. Take Five (Desmond)
3. Miss You (Rolling Stones)

Any more ideas?


-- 
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On 22 May 2011, at 21:38, Ruelle Benoit <benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> wrote:

> it rermember me the sounds of band like the cranes (using akai Sx000 think)

Thats interesting, Actually we used Roland SPX 90/ 1000 for one shot
triggered samples and later thr Roland W30 for keys... But i know the
Sound you mean, not exactly digital but not exactly warm and realistic
either.

Sounds like the korg is quite interesting but rather alot of work?

Mark

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Thanks Jeff and Bill for the comments!

The signal path on this track was as follows:

My trusty PRS Singlecut->MXR micro amp->DD-20->Vocalist Live 3->Boss RC-30.

SO very basic, but basic is me!

-Petri-

2011/5/23 William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com>

> Yes Petri! I also thought it was very nice and my interest is always peaked
> by the term hardware on this list :) Yes I am another one of "those" guys
> also :)
>
> Yes we gotta stick together:-)
>  Bill
>



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Thanks Jeff and Bill for the comments!<br><br>The signal path on this track=
 was as follows:<br><br>My trusty PRS Singlecut-&gt;MXR micro amp-&gt;DD-20=
-&gt;Vocalist Live 3-&gt;Boss RC-30.<br><br>SO very basic, but basic is me!=
<br>
<br>-Petri-<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/5/23 William Walker <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:billwalker@baymoon.com">billwalker@baym=
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t: 1ex;">
<div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word;"><div class=3D"im"><font color=3D"#760=
0ff">Yes Petri! I also thought it was very nice and my interest is always p=
eaked by the term hardware on this list :) Yes I am another one of &quot;th=
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<font color=3D"#7600ff"><br></font></div></div><div>Yes we gotta stick toge=
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Great thread, I'm also interested in making a list like this...



On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Boris Plotnikov <ploboris@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm new to loping so I'm looking for recognizable tunes which is easy
> to perform using simple loopers (like mine Boss RC-2).
>
> Songs have to be:
> 1. Recogizable while playing instrumental (e.g. bunch of blues tunes
> like Two Train Running are hardly recognizable without lyrics)
> 2. No longer than 8 bars chord progression (and even better to be
> shorter), of course anyone who have RC-50 can make some verse-chorus
> changes.
>
> I found now perfect tunes to perform
> 1. Cissy strut (The Meters)
> 2. Low Rider (The War)
> 3. Rotcha Scribida (Cesaria Evora)
> 4. Hit The Road Jack
>
> Also OK
> 1. Amazing grace (with really simplified chord structure, but anyway too
> longer)
> 2. When The Saints go marching in
> 3. Riders on The Storm (Doors), a bit longer loop than desired
> 4. Key to the Highway (OK, but a bit longer than I want)
> 5. bunch of blues tunes which are usually too longer to loop and rare
> have recognizable melodies
>
> OK, but have some bridge parts and you'll have to undo chords and
> leave rhythm only (not easy with RC-2) or just to stop looping and
> playing bridge alone.
> 1. Caravan (Ellington)
> 2. Take Five (Desmond)
> 3. Miss You (Rolling Stones)
>
> Any more ideas?
>
>
> --
> Thanks, Boris Plotnikov
>
>

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Great thread, I&#39;m also interested in making a list like this...<div><br=
></div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 4:51=
 PM, Boris Plotnikov <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ploboris@gmail=
.com">ploboris@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">I&#39;m new to loping so I&#39;m looking fo=
r recognizable tunes which is easy<br>
to perform using simple loopers (like mine Boss RC-2).<br>
<br>
Songs have to be:<br>
1. Recogizable while playing instrumental (e.g. bunch of blues tunes<br>
like Two Train Running are hardly recognizable without lyrics)<br>
2. No longer than 8 bars chord progression (and even better to be<br>
shorter), of course anyone who have RC-50 can make some verse-chorus<br>
changes.<br>
<br>
I found now perfect tunes to perform<br>
1. Cissy strut (The Meters)<br>
2. Low Rider (The War)<br>
3. Rotcha Scribida (Cesaria Evora)<br>
4. Hit The Road Jack<br>
<br>
Also OK<br>
1. Amazing grace (with really simplified chord structure, but anyway too lo=
nger)<br>
2. When The Saints go marching in<br>
3. Riders on The Storm (Doors), a bit longer loop than desired<br>
4. Key to the Highway (OK, but a bit longer than I want)<br>
5. bunch of blues tunes which are usually too longer to loop and rare<br>
have recognizable melodies<br>
<br>
OK, but have some bridge parts and you&#39;ll have to undo chords and<br>
leave rhythm only (not easy with RC-2) or just to stop looping and<br>
playing bridge alone.<br>
1. Caravan (Ellington)<br>
2. Take Five (Desmond)<br>
3. Miss You (Rolling Stones)<br>
<br>
Any more ideas?<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
<br>
--<br>
Thanks, Boris Plotnikov<br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br></div>

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I just made handmade footswitch for boss RC-2.
I used:
1. Small tea/coffee can
2. Angle jack
3. Button (it has to unlink signal when pressed!)
4. Short wire.

Advantages:
1. Cheaper than Boss FS
2. Take less place
3. No need for extra jack-jack cable

Direct link to photos.
http://cs9716.vkontakte.ru/u951987/15111799/x_f5f1f272.jpg
http://cs9716.vkontakte.ru/u951987/15111799/x_625eee18.jpg
http://cs9716.vkontakte.ru/u951987/15111799/x_b1a099f7.jpg
http://cs9716.vkontakte.ru/u951987/15111799/x_79860086.jpg

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That is just fantastic :)

Phil :)


On May 23, 2011, at 2:04 AM, Boris Plotnikov wrote:

> I just made handmade footswitch for boss RC-2.
> I used:
> 1. Small tea/coffee can
> 2. Angle jack
> 3. Button (it has to unlink signal when pressed!)
> 4. Short wire.
> 
> Advantages:
> 1. Cheaper than Boss FS
> 2. Take less place
> 3. No need for extra jack-jack cable
> 
> Direct link to photos.
> http://cs9716.vkontakte.ru/u951987/15111799/x_f5f1f272.jpg
> http://cs9716.vkontakte.ru/u951987/15111799/x_625eee18.jpg
> http://cs9716.vkontakte.ru/u951987/15111799/x_b1a099f7.jpg
> http://cs9716.vkontakte.ru/u951987/15111799/x_79860086.jpg
> 
> -- 
> Thanks, Boris Plotnikov
> 

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1. Ability to set BPM tempo and syncing with it (tap tempo is not enough)
2. Memory card for keeping playalongs
3. Stereo out for using it with playalongs.
4. Click/guide track to separate output (to my headphones or to
drummer's headphones)

-- 
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Hi loopers,
Logelloop is a standalone multitrack looper for mac os X.
For those who don't know it yet, you will find a lot of informations at =
:

http://logelloop.logellou.com

We are currently working on Logelloop 2.0.
In Logelloop 2 we have added some new features like Audiounit support, =
some new Internals SFXs and the possibility to use up to four SFXs at =
the same time. For those who have Max/MSP, it is possible to create your =
own SFXs.
=20
The first public beta version will be available soon.
If you are interested to participate to this public beta test, please =
send us an email at logelloop@logellou.com

You will need A Mac running Snow Leopard, a midi footboard and a core =
audio sound card.

We will add you to a beta test list, we will send you a link to download =
Logelloop 2 and a free registration for all the Beta test period.

For registered users, logelloop 2 will be a free update.
Regards,
Philippe OLLIVIER.=

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Hi Boris,
Yes, all of this is possible with Logelloop!

http://logelloop.logellou.com/en/Home.html

Philippe OLLIVIER.



Le 23 mai 2011 =E0 13:24, Boris Plotnikov a =E9crit :

> 1. Ability to set BPM tempo and syncing with it (tap tempo is not =
enough)
> 2. Memory card for keeping playalongs
> 3. Stereo out for using it with playalongs.
> 4. Click/guide track to separate output (to my headphones or to
> drummer's headphones)
>=20
> --=20
> Thanks, Boris Plotnikov
>=20


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That's cool, but I'm against computer on the stage because of
1) less reliability.
2) when I use playalongs it can be ok, but if gig is complete live
computer onstage may make public to thing than playalong is used.

Also decent notebook plus decent souncard costs more than looper (e.g.
RC-50) and need more weak commutation like USB.

So I want hardware looper.


-- 
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> Great thread, I'm also interested in making a list like this...
Do you have some tunes in your list?

-- 
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Rather nice that.

On May 22, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Petri Lahtinen wrote:

> http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen/suroor-hai
>
> Havent posted any of my music for a while, I test-drove my new  
> hardware gear today and recorded it at the same time.
> Bit dull and monotone piece but, I have to plead not guilty, as I  
> was so interested in trying things out, progression was not the  
> point... :-)
>
> -- 
> Petri Lahtinen
>
> http://www.petrilahtinen.com

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I have not bothered with a lot of cover tunes when looping... but here are a few  that have worked for me with a basic looper replace/overdub strategy.

Any old delta blues tunes
The Police:  Walking in your FootSteps
The Beatles:  Within and Without You
Paul Simon:  African Skies
King Crimson: Elephant Talk
Talking Heads: Wind in my Heart

All of these tunes share a pretty constant groove pattern that gets put on one track... call it the drum track.   All of the harmonic progression stuff goes on another track where I use undo / redo / over dub / replace to toggle between song sections.

Daniel 



On May 23, 2011, at 1:58 AM, Samplehead wrote:

> Great thread, I'm also interested in making a list like this...
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Boris Plotnikov <ploboris@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm new to loping so I'm looking for recognizable tunes which is easy
> to perform using simple loopers (like mine Boss RC-2).
> 
> Songs have to be:
> 1. Recogizable while playing instrumental (e.g. bunch of blues tunes
> like Two Train Running are hardly recognizable without lyrics)
> 2. No longer than 8 bars chord progression (and even better to be
> shorter), of course anyone who have RC-50 can make some verse-chorus
> changes.
> 
> I found now perfect tunes to perform
> 1. Cissy strut (The Meters)
> 2. Low Rider (The War)
> 3. Rotcha Scribida (Cesaria Evora)
> 4. Hit The Road Jack
> 
> Also OK
> 1. Amazing grace (with really simplified chord structure, but anyway too longer)
> 2. When The Saints go marching in
> 3. Riders on The Storm (Doors), a bit longer loop than desired
> 4. Key to the Highway (OK, but a bit longer than I want)
> 5. bunch of blues tunes which are usually too longer to loop and rare
> have recognizable melodies
> 
> OK, but have some bridge parts and you'll have to undo chords and
> leave rhythm only (not easy with RC-2) or just to stop looping and
> playing bridge alone.
> 1. Caravan (Ellington)
> 2. Take Five (Desmond)
> 3. Miss You (Rolling Stones)
> 
> Any more ideas?
> 
> 
> --
> Thanks, Boris Plotnikov
> 
> 


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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I =
have not bothered with a lot of cover tunes when looping... but here are =
a few &nbsp;that have worked for me with a basic looper replace/overdub =
strategy.<div><br></div><div>Any old delta blues tunes</div><div>The =
Police: &nbsp;Walking in your FootSteps</div><div>The Beatles: =
&nbsp;Within and Without You</div><div><div><div>Paul Simon: =
&nbsp;African Skies</div><div>King Crimson: Elephant =
Talk</div><div>Talking Heads: Wind in my =
Heart</div><div><br></div><div>All of these tunes share a pretty =
constant groove pattern that gets put on one track... call it the drum =
track. &nbsp; All of the harmonic progression stuff goes on another =
track where I use undo / redo / over dub / replace to toggle between =
song =
sections.</div><div><br></div><div>Daniel&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><=
br></div><div><br></div><div>On May 23, 2011, at 1:58 AM, Samplehead =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">Great thread, I'm also interested in making a list like =
this...<div><br></div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, =
May 23, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Boris Plotnikov <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:ploboris@gmail.com">ploboris@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">I'm new to loping so =
I'm looking for recognizable tunes which is easy<br>
to perform using simple loopers (like mine Boss RC-2).<br>
<br>
Songs have to be:<br>
1. Recogizable while playing instrumental (e.g. bunch of blues tunes<br>
like Two Train Running are hardly recognizable without lyrics)<br>
2. No longer than 8 bars chord progression (and even better to be<br>
shorter), of course anyone who have RC-50 can make some verse-chorus<br>
changes.<br>
<br>
I found now perfect tunes to perform<br>
1. Cissy strut (The Meters)<br>
2. Low Rider (The War)<br>
3. Rotcha Scribida (Cesaria Evora)<br>
4. Hit The Road Jack<br>
<br>
Also OK<br>
1. Amazing grace (with really simplified chord structure, but anyway too =
longer)<br>
2. When The Saints go marching in<br>
3. Riders on The Storm (Doors), a bit longer loop than desired<br>
4. Key to the Highway (OK, but a bit longer than I want)<br>
5. bunch of blues tunes which are usually too longer to loop and =
rare<br>
have recognizable melodies<br>
<br>
OK, but have some bridge parts and you'll have to undo chords and<br>
leave rhythm only (not easy with RC-2) or just to stop looping and<br>
playing bridge alone.<br>
1. Caravan (Ellington)<br>
2. Take Five (Desmond)<br>
3. Miss You (Rolling Stones)<br>
<br>
Any more ideas?<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
<br>
--<br>
Thanks, Boris Plotnikov<br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br></div>
</blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>=

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brilliant thanks for sharing that, Where are you from Boris? its  
always nice to find out what country a new face is from, would you be  
from Russia? just guessing.
Thanks
  Bill

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When you're looking to beta test the pc version, I'm interested!

Nevyn Nowhere
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On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 5:08 AM, Philippe OLLIVIER <
philippe.ollivier@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi loopers,
> Logelloop is a standalone multitrack looper for mac os X.
> For those who don't know it yet, you will find a lot of informations at :
>
> http://logelloop.logellou.com
>
> We are currently working on Logelloop 2.0.
> In Logelloop 2 we have added some new features like Audiounit support, some
> new Internals SFXs and the possibility to use up to four SFXs at the same
> time. For those who have Max/MSP, it is possible to create your own SFXs.
>
> The first public beta version will be available soon.
> If you are interested to participate to this public beta test, please send
> us an email at logelloop@logellou.com
>
> You will need A Mac running Snow Leopard, a midi footboard and a core audio
> sound card.
>
> We will add you to a beta test list, we will send you a link to download
> Logelloop 2 and a free registration for all the Beta test period.
>
> For registered users, logelloop 2 will be a free update.
> Regards,
> Philippe OLLIVIER.
>



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When you&#39;re looking to beta test the pc version, I&#39;m interested!<br=
><br>Nevyn Nowhere<div>Sad Music for Happy Humans<br><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote">On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 5:08 AM, Philippe OLLIVIER <span dir=3D"lt=
r">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:philippe.ollivier@gmail.com">philippe.ollivier@gma=
il.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Hi loopers,<br>
Logelloop is a standalone multitrack looper for mac os X.<br>
For those who don&#39;t know it yet, you will find a lot of informations at=
 :<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://logelloop.logellou.com" target=3D"_blank">http://logelloo=
p.logellou.com</a><br>
<br>
We are currently working on Logelloop 2.0.<br>
In Logelloop 2 we have added some new features like Audiounit support, some=
 new Internals SFXs and the possibility to use up to four SFXs at the same =
time. For those who have Max/MSP, it is possible to create your own SFXs.<b=
r>

<br>
The first public beta version will be available soon.<br>
If you are interested to participate to this public beta test, please send =
us an email at <a href=3D"mailto:logelloop@logellou.com">logelloop@logellou=
.com</a><br>
<br>
You will need A Mac running Snow Leopard, a midi footboard and a core audio=
 sound card.<br>
<br>
We will add you to a beta test list, we will send you a link to download Lo=
gelloop 2 and a free registration for all the Beta test period.<br>
<br>
For registered users, logelloop 2 will be a free update.<br>
Regards,<br>
<font color=3D"#888888">Philippe OLLIVIER.<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><a href=3D"http:=
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "mark francombe" <markfrancombe@gmail.com>


> On 22 May 2011, at 21:38, Ruelle Benoit <benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> wrote:
>
>> it rermember me the sounds of band like the cranes (using akai Sx000 
>> think)
> either.

Yes that's good way to formulate it.
I spoke about your band but i guess it might sounds like a lot of groups 
from that "generation" using samplers. F242? The young gods?

>
> Sounds like the korg is quite interesting but rather alot of work?

It depends what you wan to do with it. I consider it a bit like a super 
casio Sk1 in it's simplest sampling form: Press sample, record something, 
play the sample chromatically.
Now there is someone on you tube using it as a looper/multitrack recorder:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZflhQpyBNI

and this explain the 5 recording modes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5k8YP-0at0&playnext=1&list=PL9CE0F1F5C8E4D1EB

Ben


>
> Mark
> 

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> Mobius has a built-in function to render a 32 bit floating point wave
> file of the main stereo output from the looper.=20


If maestro Boysen had nickel for every time I learned something =
wonderful from him, he would be farting multi million dollar studio =
facilities like the one that Reyn has poured his heart and soul into.

Thanks for another aha moment, Per!

Daniel =20
On May 21, 2011, at 2:17 PM, Per Boysen wrote:

> Mobius has a built-in function to render a 32 bit floating point wave
> file of the main stereo output from the looper. Look for the command
> Start Audio Recording and assign it to something (MIDI note or a
> laptop key). You also need to use the command Stop Audio Recording and
> Save Audio Recording.
>=20
> Or you can buy and use AudioHijack Pro, http://www.rogueamoeba.com/
>=20
> Greetings from Sweden
>=20
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> www.looproom.com internet music hub
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> On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> =
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>> Per or possibly anyone, I thought I recall someone mentioning for the =
Mac an
>> audio capture to grab anything inbound to the Mac.  I have thusfar =
when
>> saving a Mobius session have ported out of my Tascam 122 Line Out and =
fed in
>> to another laptop in to Audacity.  Is there something I can do to =
capture
>> the mobius session on board the same machine that it's running on?  =
The
>> other works I'm just looking for more portability at times.  I don't =
suppose
>> I'm overlooking something about Mobius that allows me to mix down or
>> actually bet I am. I could send all loops to one track maybe, no?
>> Thanks folks
>> Jim
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I'm pro harmonica player from Russia. I'm new to looping stuff. I
started practicing beatboxing to make loops.

Here's links to my stuff (not looping yet), some are in Russian, but
you can listen to audio and watch to video.


http://www.myspace.com/harmonicaboris
http://www.realmusic.ru/boris_plotnikov/
http://www.youtube.com/user/etaborya
http://harmonicaspace.com/profile.php?profileid=413
http://etaborya.livejournal.com/
http://vk.com/boris_plotnikov
http://borisplotnikov.ru
http://www.harperclub.com/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=331&sid=441d142d430c439ba26bded2052ac11e

2011/5/23 William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com>:
> brilliant thanks for sharing that, Where are you from Boris? its always nice
> to find out what country a new face is from, would you be from Russia? just
> guessing.

-- 
Thanks, Boris Plotnikov

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Jimbo,

It's called WireTap Studio and is available here:=20
<http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/wiretap/>

I use it ll of the time.

Cheers,

Ted


On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Jim Goodin wrote:

  Per or possibly anyone, I thought I recall someone mentioning for the=20
Mac an audio capture to grab anything inbound to the Mac. =C2=A0I have=20
thusfar when saving a Mobius session have ported out of my Tascam 122=20
Line Out and fed in to another laptop in to Audacity. =C2=A0Is there=20
something I can do to capture the mobius session on board the same=20
machine that it's running on? =C2=A0The other works I'm just looking for mo=
re=20
portability at times. =C2=A0I don't suppose I'm overlooking something about=
=20
Mobius that allows me to mix down or actually bet I am. I could send all=20
loops to one track maybe, no?

Thanks folks

Jim

--=20
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FONT SIZE=3D"3">Per or possibly anyone, I thought I recall someone mentioni=
ng for the Mac an audio capture to grab anything inbound to the Mac. =C2=A0=
I have thusfar when saving a Mobius session have ported out of my Tascam 12=
2 Line Out and fed in to another laptop in to Audacity. =C2=A0Is there some=
thing I can do to capture the mobius session on board the same machine that=
 it's running on? =C2=A0The other works I'm just looking for more portabili=
ty at times. =C2=A0I don't suppose I'm overlooking something about Mobius t=
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Thanks!!

2011/5/23 tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net>

> Rather nice that.
>
>
> On May 22, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Petri Lahtinen wrote:
>
>  http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen/suroor-hai
>>
>> Havent posted any of my music for a while, I test-drove my new hardware
>> gear today and recorded it at the same time.
>> Bit dull and monotone piece but, I have to plead not guilty, as I was so
>> interested in trying things out, progression was not the point... :-)
>>
>> --
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>>
>> http://www.petrilahtinen.com
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Thanks!!<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/5/23 tEd =AE KiLLiAn <span =
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Rather nice that.<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
On May 22, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Petri Lahtinen wrote:<br>
<br>
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r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<a href=3D"http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen/suroor-hai" target=3D"_blank=
">http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen/suroor-hai</a><br>
<br>
Havent posted any of my music for a while, I test-drove my new hardware gea=
r today and recorded it at the same time.<br>
Bit dull and monotone piece but, I have to plead not guilty, as I was so in=
terested in trying things out, progression was not the point... :-)<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Petri Lahtinen<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.petri=
lahtinen.com</a><br>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Petri Lahti=
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Ted thanks very much, will check this out and Daniel agreed re Mr Per,
always resourceful fellow he is.

Jim

On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 6:13 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net>wr=
ote:

> Jimbo,
>
> It's called WireTap Studio and is available here: <
> http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/wiretap/>
>
> I use it ll of the time.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ted
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Jim Goodin wrote:
>
>  Per or possibly anyone, I thought I recall someone mentioning for the Ma=
c
> an audio capture to grab anything inbound to the Mac.  I have thusfar whe=
n
> saving a Mobius session have ported out of my Tascam 122 Line Out and fed=
 in
> to another laptop in to Audacity.  Is there something I can do to capture
> the mobius session on board the same machine that it's running on?  The
> other works I'm just looking for more portability at times.  I don't supp=
ose
> I'm overlooking something about Mobius that allows me to mix down or
> actually bet I am. I could send all loops to one track maybe, no?
>
> Thanks folks
>
>
> Jim
>
> --
> *From Brooklyn To Glindran *, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim
> Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.  Proceeds
> from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.  *
> jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com*<http://jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com=
>.
>
>
> *woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com* <http://woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com>
> <http://woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com>
>



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Ted thanks very much, will check this out and Daniel agreed re Mr Per, alwa=
ys resourceful fellow he is.<div><br></div><div>Jim<br><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote">On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 6:13 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn <span dir=3D"lt=
r">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tedkillian@charter.net">tedkillian@charter.net</a>=
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div align=3D"LEFT"><font face=3D"Verdana" =
size=3D"2" color=3D"#000000">Jimbo,</font></div><font face=3D"Verdana" size=
=3D"2" color=3D"#000000"><br>
</font><div align=3D"LEFT"><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"2" color=3D"#0000=
00">It&#39;s called WireTap Studio and is available here: &lt;<a href=3D"ht=
tp://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/wiretap/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.am=
brosiasw.com/utilities/wiretap/</a>&gt;</font></div>
<font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"2" color=3D"#000000"><br></font><div align=
=3D"LEFT"><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"2" color=3D"#000000">I use it ll o=
f the time.</font></div><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"2" color=3D"#000000"=
><br></font><div align=3D"LEFT">
<font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"2" color=3D"#000000">Cheers,</font></div><fo=
nt face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"2" color=3D"#000000"><br></font><font color=3D"=
#888888"><div align=3D"LEFT"><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"2" color=3D"#00=
0000">Ted</font></div>
</font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"2" =
color=3D"#000000"><br></font><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"2" color=3D"#00=
0000"><br></font><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"2" color=3D"#000000"><br></=
font><div align=3D"LEFT">
<font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"2" color=3D"#000000">On Sat, May 21, 2011 at=
 12:53 PM, Jim Goodin wrote:</font></div><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"2" =
color=3D"#000000"><br></font><div align=3D"LEFT"><font face=3D"Verdana" siz=
e=3D"2" color=3D"#000000">=A0<font size=3D"3">Per or possibly anyone, I tho=
ught I recall someone mentioning for the Mac an audio capture to grab anyth=
ing inbound to the Mac. =A0I have thusfar when saving a Mobius session have=
 ported out of my Tascam 122 Line Out and fed in to another laptop in to Au=
dacity. =A0Is there something I can do to capture the mobius session on boa=
rd the same machine that it&#39;s running on? =A0The other works I&#39;m ju=
st looking for more portability at times. =A0I don&#39;t suppose I&#39;m ov=
erlooking something about Mobius that allows me to mix down or actually bet=
 I am. I could send all loops to one track maybe, no? </font></font></div>
<font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"2" color=3D"#000000"><br></font><div align=
=3D"LEFT"><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000">Thanks folks =
<font size=3D"2"></font></font></div><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"3" colo=
r=3D"#000000"><br></font><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"2" color=3D"#000000=
"><br>
</font><div align=3D"LEFT"><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"3" color=3D"#0000=
00">Jim </font></div><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000"><b=
r></font><div align=3D"LEFT"><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"3" color=3D"#00=
0000">-- </font></div>
<div align=3D"LEFT"><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000"><i>=
>From Brooklyn To Glindran </i>, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Good=
in &amp; Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds </font></div><div align=3D"LEFT"><font =
face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000">from the sale of this CD will=
 benefit JDRF International.=A0 <font color=3D"#3333FF"><a href=3D"http://j=
imgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com" target=3D"_blank"><u>jimgoodinpeterthorn.b=
andcamp.com</u></a></font>. </font></div>
<font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000"><br></font><div align=
=3D"LEFT"><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"3" color=3D"#3333FF"><a href=3D"ht=
tp://woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com" target=3D"_blank"><u>woodandwiremusic.=
wordpress.com</u></a><font color=3D"#000000"></font></font></div>
<div align=3D"LEFT"><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"3" color=3D"#3333FF"><a =
href=3D"http://woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com" target=3D"_blank"></a></font=
></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><i>F=
rom Brooklyn To Glindran</i>, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin=
 &amp; Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds<br>
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.=A0 <a href=3D"htt=
p://jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com" target=3D"_blank">jimgoodinpeterthorn=
.bandcamp.com</a>.<br><br><a href=3D"http://woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com"=
 target=3D"_blank">woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com</a><br>

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As far as recording things in general.

I have a small mixer (Mackie 1402) patched into my computer system. This 
setup allows anything playing on the computer or anything plugged into 
the mixer to be recorded into my digital audio editor (Audition). Works 
well without requiring any additional piece of software. This should 
work with most mixers and DAWs.

Actually the mixer is overkill for the way I record. Never use the EQ or 
Aux buses. Usually do much processing after the fact.


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Am 23.05.11 20:45, schrieb Boris Plotnikov:
> I'm pro harmonica player from Russia. I'm new to looping stuff. I
> started practicing beatboxing to make loops.
> 
> Here's links to my stuff (not looping yet), some are in Russian, but
> you can listen to audio and watch to video.

Hey, this is marvelous, you are a virtuoso master of your instrument.

>From your photos I would guess you have more than 70 harps, how many of
them do you bring to a gig?...

Welcome to the club.

Stefan

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> Hey, this is marvelous, you are a virtuoso master of your instrument.
Thanks, man!

> From your photos I would guess you have more than 70 harps, how many of
> them do you bring to a gig?...
I have up to 100 harmonicas. Actually I bring to gig about 40 of them.
There're 12 keys + 7 harps are one octave lower (there're harps two
octaves lower manufactured, but I don't still have one) so I have 19
keys + spares + some minor tuned harps (for minor chording, as minor
soloing is available on regular harmonica).

-- 
Thanks, Boris Plotnikov

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Wow! Wow! Wow!

Boris, that' great stuff you do - just about covers every category of =20=

music,

Most impressive.

I will be eagerly waiting to hear what you do with looping.

=D0=9C=D0=B8=D1=80,

Ted

On May 23, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Boris Plotnikov wrote:

> I'm pro harmonica player from Russia. I'm new to looping stuff. I
> started practicing beatboxing to make loops.
>
> Here's links to my stuff (not looping yet), some are in Russian, but
> you can listen to audio and watch to video.
>
> http://www.myspace.com/harmonicaboris
> http://www.realmusic.ru/boris_plotnikov/
> http://www.youtube.com/user/etaborya
> http://harmonicaspace.com/profile.php?profileid=3D413
> http://etaborya.livejournal.com/
> http://vk.com/boris_plotnikov
> http://borisplotnikov.ru
> =
http://www.harperclub.com/viewtopic.php?f=3D34&t=3D331&sid=3D441d142d430c4=
39ba26bded2052ac11e
> --=20
> Thanks, Boris Plotnikov

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I've looked at that busking site before. Honestly, it leaves me more
confused than enlightened. Watts, amps, deep cycle,  inverters...I'm a
musician, not an engineer, and I am admittedly jealous of those who
speak both languages

A generator would be overkill for me, I should think.

The Pedal Juice that Bill posted seemed like a good option, and it
sounds expensive until one starts looking at the alternatives. I've
read of folks attaching a suitable power connector to a breadbox with
a bunch of AAs, but that would only work as a battery replacement; the
Rang needs AC.

On Sunday, May 22, 2011, Akraf Emaho <akrafemaho@gmail.com> wrote:
> Take a look at this site.
>
> www.streetmusician.co.uk/buskingpower/
>
> On 5/22/11, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>> I wouldn't rule out finding such a device already available.
>>
>> Here's an example
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/3t7kpoa
>>
>> ...although I wouldn't recommend buying that particular one,
>> it's untested, and such batteries don't last forever.
>>
>>
>>
>> andy
>>
>> Zak Kramer wrote:
>>> If I knew anything about electronics, I might...but I don't even know
>>> where to start looking to learn how to put such a thing together, and m=
y
>>> understanding is that this is an area where you don't want to just gues=
s
>>> & hope.
>>>
>>> Zak Kramer
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Grant <grantmepeace@mindspring.com
>>> <mailto:grantmepeace@mindspring.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> =A0 =A0 It wouldn't be too difficult to build a small power supply usin=
g a
>>> =A0 =A0 UPS battery or small motorcycle battery that could supply sever=
al
>>> =A0 =A0 pedals for many hours. It could have 12VDC outputs and some
>>> =A0 =A0 regulated 9VDC outputs, be relatively small, rechargeable, etc.=
 I'm
>>> =A0 =A0 pretty sure the Rang III could run directly off the 12VDC and w=
ould
>>> =A0 =A0 probably run 2-3 hours for every 1000mAH of battery capacity. M=
aybe
>>> =A0 =A0 it could be built into the amp for easy transport. Just a thoug=
ht.
>>> =A0 =A0 Cheaper in the long run too since batteries have gotten soooo
>>> =A0 =A0 expensive these days.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> =A0 =A0 G
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 -----Original Message-----
>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 From: Zak Kramer
>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Sent: May 20, 2011 4:59 PM
>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 <mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Subject: Re: Corrections: Footprint of the LP-2 Mini Lo=
oper
>>>
>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 [insert indignant castigation here]
>>>
>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 I'm really looking forwards to the box, whatever its di=
mensions.
>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 It does still have the ability to run on batteries, yes=
? This is
>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 as much my attraction to the looper as all the other st=
uff; I
>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 busk weekly (when its not monsoon season) and so portab=
ility is
>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 key. I use an RC-20XL now, but I find it very limiting,=
 as I
>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 elsewise use a Boomerang III.
>>>
>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Zak Kramer
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

--=20
Zak Kramer

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I've read a number of reviews on the Gear Page. Other than the
grousing that it's a solution looking for a problem (we can't all seek
to be mobile musical adventurers) they seem quite positive. The only
serious negative seems to be that while one can turn the PJ off to
keep it from draining while not being used, one cannot use the PJ (and
whatever's attached to it) while the PJ is charging/plugged in. That
is, it doesn't work like a laptop that runs just fine while attached
to mains power.

I'm still tempted, although it would be a pretty extravagant expense
just for one or two pedals.

Zak

On Sunday, May 22, 2011, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:
> =A0This is something I've been considering, has any one tried this? =A0I =
wish there was a similar design with =A0higher voltages =A0and higher milli=
-amp specs. =A0Perhaps something is coming down the road, but they claim yo=
u can run higher milli amp draw devices like keyboards with it =A0as well.=
=A0http://us.sanyo.com/pedal-juice

--=20
Zak Kramer

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Subject: Re: Harmonica Player from Russia (Was Re: Handmade footswitch for boss
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Holy moses!  An amazing player!

Very inspiring , Boris!=20

Daniel =20


On May 24, 2011, at 7:18 AM, tEd =C2=AE KiLLiAn wrote:

> Wow! Wow! Wow!
>=20
> Boris, that' great stuff you do - just about covers every category of =
music,
>=20
> Most impressive.
>=20
> I will be eagerly waiting to hear what you do with looping.
>=20
> =D0=9C=D0=B8=D1=80,
>=20
> Ted
>=20
> On May 23, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Boris Plotnikov wrote:
>=20
>> I'm pro harmonica player from Russia. I'm new to looping stuff. I
>> started practicing beatboxing to make loops.
>>=20
>> Here's links to my stuff (not looping yet), some are in Russian, but
>> you can listen to audio and watch to video.
>>=20
>> http://www.myspace.com/harmonicaboris
>> http://www.realmusic.ru/boris_plotnikov/
>> http://www.youtube.com/user/etaborya
>> http://harmonicaspace.com/profile.php?profileid=3D413
>> http://etaborya.livejournal.com/
>> http://vk.com/boris_plotnikov
>> http://borisplotnikov.ru
>> =
http://www.harperclub.com/viewtopic.php?f=3D34&t=3D331&sid=3D441d142d430c4=
39ba26bded2052ac11e
>> --=20
>> Thanks, Boris Plotnikov
>=20

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>The Pedal Juice that Bill posted seemed like a good option, and it
>sounds expensive until one starts looking at the alternatives. I've
>read of folks attaching a suitable power connector to a breadbox with
>a bunch of AAs, but that would only work as a battery replacement; the
>Rang needs AC.

The Rang III will run on DC. Ideally it should be an isolated supply but it should work if the negative side of the power supply is connected to the audio ground (mainly through other pedals/equipment) and the positive DC voltage is between 9 (+/- 0.25VDC) and 12 volts. This is not particularly difficult stuff but I would recommed you proceed cautiously. 

The Pedal Juice is pretty slick and could pay for itself over time when you consider battery costs. Unfortunately I see no specifications for the DC voltage (exact voltage and tolerance) so it could be a problem if the output is actually 8.4 volts (7 Eneloop cells) vs a regulated 9VDC. I use4 the "AA" and "AAA" Eneloop cells in portable audio products (CD player, cassette/radio, etc.) and they work pretty well but they are 1.2 volts per cell vs 1.5 volts for normal alkaline batteries.

G

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Just getting through the myspace stuff.
Very expressive and creative playing! Super cool.
You're going to be dangerous with a looper.
Welcome.
Regards,
Rich


On 5/23/11 11:45 AM, "Boris Plotnikov" <ploboris@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm pro harmonica player from Russia. I'm new to looping stuff. I
> started practicing beatboxing to make loops.
> 
> Here's links to my stuff (not looping yet), some are in Russian, but
> you can listen to audio and watch to video.
> 
> 
> http://www.myspace.com/harmonicaboris
> http://www.realmusic.ru/boris_plotnikov/
> http://www.youtube.com/user/etaborya
> http://harmonicaspace.com/profile.php?profileid=413
> http://etaborya.livejournal.com/
> http://vk.com/boris_plotnikov
> http://borisplotnikov.ru
> http://www.harperclub.com/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=331&sid=441d142d430c439ba26bded
> 2052ac11e
> 
> 2011/5/23 William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com>:
>> brilliant thanks for sharing that, Where are you from Boris? its always nice
>> to find out what country a new face is from, would you be from Russia? just
>> guessing.


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2iGwIl-qig


http://islandfunk.com
http://www.andredonawa.com
http://www.youtube.com/user/AndreDonawa

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Hey Boris i checked out some of your playing,  it is good to see the  
art of chromatic harmonica is alive and well! nice job and did I spot  
"the" Tommy Emmanuel sitting in on drums in that Youtube  video? he  
must have been making the guitarist sweat :-)  take care
  Bill
  

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Thanks for kind words. Yes, it's really Tommy Emmanuel on drums, he
decide to play them at jam just for fun. It was festival near Moscow,
Russia.

2011/5/25 William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com>:
> Hey Boris i checked out some of your playing, =A0it is good to see the ar=
t of
> chromatic harmonica is alive and well! nice job and did I spot "the" Tomm=
y
> Emmanuel sitting in on drums in that Youtube =A0video? he must have been
> making the guitarist sweat :-) =A0take care
> =A0Bill
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Thank you Daniel!

2011/5/25 Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com>:
> Holy moses! =A0An amazing player!
> Very inspiring , Boris!
> Daniel

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Okay before now I'd never heard of Tommy Emanuel so I looked him up on =
the YouTubes and now I want to eat my own head.

On May 24, 2011, at 8:41 PM, William Walker wrote:

> Hey Boris i checked out some of your playing,  it is good to see the =
art of chromatic harmonica is alive and well! nice job and did I spot =
"the" Tommy Emmanuel sitting in on drums in that Youtube  video? he must =
have been making the guitarist sweat :-)  take care
> Bill
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Awesome playing Boris!
You're truly a Master of your instrument!
Welcome aboard!

-- 
Petri Lahtinen

http://www.petrilahtinen.com


2011/5/25 Boris Plotnikov <ploboris@gmail.com>

> Thank you Daniel!
>
> 2011/5/25 Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com>:
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> > Very inspiring , Boris!
> > Daniel
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Awesome playing Boris!<br>You&#39;re truly a Master of your instrument!<br>=
Welcome aboard!<br><br>-- <br>Petri Lahtinen<br><br><a href=3D"http://www.p=
etrilahtinen.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.petrilahtinen.com</a><br><b=
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<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/5/25 Boris Plotnikov <span dir=3D"ltr">=
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Thank you Daniel!<br>
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2011/5/25 Daniel Thomas &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:danielthomas4@mac.com">daniel=
thomas4@mac.com</a>&gt;:<br>
&gt; Holy moses! =A0An amazing player!<br>
&gt; Very inspiring , Boris!<br>
&gt; Daniel<br>
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Amazing skills Boris! Well done!!

Cheers,

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On May 25, 2011, at 6:20 AM, Boris Plotnikov wrote:

> Thank you Daniel!
> 
> 2011/5/25 Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com>:
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>> Very inspiring , Boris!
>> Daniel
> 
> -- 
> Thanks, Boris Plotnikov
> 

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Ah, that's from a dutch music program called Vrije Geluiden.. R.

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Aha, so someone just filmed the guy as they tracked a piece for the
radio show. Cool setting, to record in a corporate office style room
like that. NIce playing BTW.

Per


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> Ah, that's from a dutch music program called Vrije Geluiden.. R.
> On May 25, 2011, at 12:09 PM, Simeon Harris wrote:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCENW-IrKTU&feature=player_embedded#at=195
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On May 23, 2011, at 3:51 PM, Boris Plotnikov wrote:
> OK, but have some bridge parts and you'll have to undo chords and
> leave rhythm only (not easy with RC-2) or just to stop looping and
> playing bridge alone.

For what it is worth I find the RC-2 somewhat confusing. I immediately  
had to get an FS-6 foot switch (used) because it is anti-intuitive to  
hit twice to stop a loop on a beat. For simple looping while jamming,  
it seems like the main thing I want to be able to do is hit a  
footswitch once and have it stop the current loop and immediately  
start recording a new loop. This can't be done with the RC-2, as far  
as I'm aware. To rectify this I started researching and found this  
list and subsequently Mobius. On my recent trip to the States I bought  
an FCB1010 and an Octron2. I intended to buy a laptop and really get  
into Mobius but I ended up buying a Baroque guitar instead (at least  
it won't be obsolete in 10 years). Somehow I find it a mental hurdle  
to conquer this stuff. Age? I wonder if serious loopers are a  
different breed, somehow they have an extra techno-geek gene or  
something.

Ed Durbrow
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thing I want to be able to do is hit a footswitch once and have it stop =
the current loop and immediately start recording a new loop. This can't =
be done with the RC-2, as far as I'm aware. To rectify this I started =
researching and found this list and subsequently Mobius. On my recent =
trip to the States I bought an FCB1010 and an Octron2. I intended to buy =
a laptop and really get into Mobius but I ended up buying a Baroque =
guitar instead (at least it won't be obsolete in 10 years). Somehow I =
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Any current suggestions for a simple travel guitar? I need one for
conferences.

Thanks in advance,
Ricky

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Scott Hansen <evanpeewee@gmail.com> wrote:

> interesting vid and guitar. i recognize the headpiece on that guitar-it's
> an ABM-i had one for my 2nd "klein-like" project. i actually liked it way
> better than the standard steinberger headpiece, but the funny thing when i
> sold all my steinberger gear and moved away from headless guitars...the
> steinberger headpiece sold for double what the ABM one did-which i thought
> was odd, b/c in my estimation it was actually a better design, easier to
> install, and looked cooler (IMO-ha). oh well. a cool guitar though for
> sure....
> s----
>
> Hi
>
> we have seen several several products in the past decades that were
> somehow foldable.
> they all disappeared again.
> maybe they were too complicated?
>
> Claude Bowald, one of my best friends and a very sensible guitar player
> built a very simple version and it seems to work!
>
> have a look:
> http://www.youtube.com/bopfigraziella
>
> youhou!
> Matthias
>

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Any current suggestions for a simple travel guitar? I need one for conferen=
ces.<br><br>Thanks in advance,<br>Ricky<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">O=
n Sun, May 9, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Scott Hansen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:evanpeewee@gmail.com">evanpeewee@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:=
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
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vid and guitar. i recognize the headpiece on that guitar-it&#39;s an ABM-i =
had one for my 2nd &quot;klein-like&quot; project. i actually liked it way =
better than the standard steinberger headpiece, but the funny thing when i =
sold all my steinberger gear and moved away from headless guitars...the ste=
inberger headpiece sold for double what the ABM one did-which i thought was=
 odd, b/c in my estimation it was actually a better design, easier to insta=
ll, and looked cooler (IMO-ha). oh well. a cool guitar though for sure....<=
/div>


<div>s----</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Hi<br><br>we have seen several several products in the past decades th=
at were <br>somehow foldable.<br>they all disappeared again.<br>maybe they =
were too complicated?<br><br>Claude Bowald, one of my best friends and a ve=
ry sensible guitar player <br>

built a very simple version and it seems to work!<br><br>have a look:<br><a=
 href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/bopfigraziella" target=3D"_blank"><font col=
or=3D"#551a8b">http://www.youtube.com/bopfigraziella</font></a><br><br>youh=
ou!<br>
Matthias<br>
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Sup y'all?

I'm selling off a bunch of pedals and a nice PA.

Pedals: http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/msg/2400666262.html
PA: http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/msg/2400619729.html

If you're interested, I'm happy to give a Loopers Delight Discount!

Hope all is well.


love,
Daniel
www.iamdanielharris.com

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Sup y&#39;all? <br><br>I&#39;m selling off a bunch of pedals and a nice PA.=
 <br><br>Pedals: <a href=3D"http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/msg/2400666262=
.html">http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/msg/2400666262.html</a><br>PA: <a h=
ref=3D"http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/msg/2400619729.html">http://boston.=
craigslist.org/gbs/msg/2400619729.html</a> <br>
<br>If you&#39;re interested, I&#39;m happy to give a Loopers Delight Disco=
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On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Ricky Graham
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> Any current suggestions for a simple travel guitar? I need one for
> conferences.


Hi Ricky,

I just checked out such a product line at a guitar show this weekend,
the Ministar. Here's a facebook link for my photos:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150190603123195&set=a.10150190601128195.311031.6218343194&type=1&theater

And here's a review I found online:
http://www.besttravelguitars.com/tag/ministar-travel-guitars/

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub

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I got a Korean Steinberger for just that purpose a few years back. More than adequate for pretty much anything and only 30" long. Fits right in the overhead bin as a carry-on. 

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Any current suggestions for a simple travel guitar? I need one for conferences. 

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<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>I got a Korean Steinberger for just that purpose a few years back.&nbsp; More than adequate for pretty much anything and only 30" long.&nbsp; Fits right in the overhead bin as a carry-on.<br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Ricky Graham" &lt;rickygrahammusic@gmail.com&gt;<br>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 9:24:42 AM<br>Subject: Re: simple travel guitar<br><br>Any current suggestions for a simple travel guitar? I need one for conferences.<br><br>Thanks in advance,<br>Ricky<br><br><br>
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I really like the Baby Martin.=20

Tips:  1) Try all they have in the store and pick the best one--I've =
noticed some are better then others, but when you find the good one in =
the bunch it resonates quite well, sounds full for it's size, and plays =
very well.=20

           2) I used to get stopped in Airport Security and searched all =
the time when I carried it with the neck up, as the gig bag was intended =
to be carried. But if I ware the gig back upside down, so the neck was =
facing down, never do I get stopped. It's just a psychological thing... =
one looks like a gun case sticking up, the other looks like a back pack.=20=




On May 25, 2011, at 6:24 AM, Ricky Graham wrote:

> Any current suggestions for a simple travel guitar? I need one for =
conferences.
>=20
> Thanks in advance,
> Ricky
>=20
> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Scott Hansen <evanpeewee@gmail.com> =
wrote:
> interesting vid and guitar. i recognize the headpiece on that =
guitar-it's an ABM-i had one for my 2nd "klein-like" project. i actually =
liked it way better than the standard steinberger headpiece, but the =
funny thing when i sold all my steinberger gear and moved away from =
headless guitars...the steinberger headpiece sold for double what the =
ABM one did-which i thought was odd, b/c in my estimation it was =
actually a better design, easier to install, and looked cooler (IMO-ha). =
oh well. a cool guitar though for sure....
> s----
> =20
> Hi
>=20
> we have seen several several products in the past decades that were=20
> somehow foldable.
> they all disappeared again.
> maybe they were too complicated?
>=20
> Claude Bowald, one of my best friends and a very sensible guitar =
player=20
> built a very simple version and it seems to work!
>=20
> have a look:
> http://www.youtube.com/bopfigraziella
>=20
> youhou!
> Matthias
>=20


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"><div><br></div><div>I really like the Baby =
Martin.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Tips: &nbsp;1) Try all they have =
in the store and pick the best one--I've noticed some are better then =
others, but when you find the good one in the bunch it resonates quite =
well, sounds full for it's size, and plays very =
well.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; 2) I used to get stopped in Airport Security&nbsp;and searched =
all the time when I carried it with the neck up, as the gig bag was =
intended to be carried. But if I ware the gig back upside down, so the =
neck was facing down, never do I get stopped. It's just a psychological =
thing... one looks like a gun case sticking up, the other looks like a =
back pack.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On May =
25, 2011, at 6:24 AM, Ricky Graham wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite">Any =
current suggestions for a simple travel guitar? I need one for =
conferences.<br><br>Thanks in advance,<br>Ricky<br><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Scott Hansen <span =
dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:evanpeewee@gmail.com">evanpeewee@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin-top: 0pt; =
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border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: =
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"><div>interesting vid and guitar. i recognize the headpiece on that =
guitar-it's an ABM-i had one for my 2nd "klein-like" project. i actually =
liked it way better than the standard steinberger headpiece, but the =
funny thing when i sold all my steinberger gear and moved away from =
headless guitars...the steinberger headpiece sold for double what the =
ABM one did-which i thought was odd, b/c in my estimation it was =
actually a better design, easier to install, and looked cooler (IMO-ha). =
oh well. a cool guitar though for sure....</div>


<div>s----</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Hi<br><br>we have seen several several products in the past decades =
that were <br>somehow foldable.<br>they all disappeared again.<br>maybe =
they were too complicated?<br><br>Claude Bowald, one of my best friends =
and a very sensible guitar player <br>

built a very simple version and it seems to work!<br><br>have a =
look:<br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/bopfigraziella" =
target=3D"_blank"><font =
color=3D"#551a8b">http://www.youtube.com/bopfigraziella</font></a><br><br>=
youhou!<br>
Matthias<br>
</div>
</blockquote></div><br>
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On May 25, 2011, at 6:24 AM, Ricky Graham wrote:

> Any current suggestions for a simple travel guitar?



I want one of these

http://blackbirdguitars.com/rider_steel.html


regards

BobC

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at 6:24 AM, Ricky Graham wrote:</div><br =
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Thanks guys. Any thoughts on this Wesley travel electric guitar:
http://www.wesleyguitars.co.uk/storefrontprofiles/deluxesfitemdetail.aspx?sfid=217687&c=950497&i=257235659

Ricky

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 4:20 PM, RP Collier <skeptikalist@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On May 25, 2011, at 6:24 AM, Ricky Graham wrote:
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> Any current suggestions for a simple travel guitar?
>
>
>
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> I want one of these
>
> http://blackbirdguitars.com/rider_steel.html
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> regards
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> BobC
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> http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j
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Thanks guys. Any thoughts on this Wesley travel electric guitar: <a href=3D=
"http://www.wesleyguitars.co.uk/storefrontprofiles/deluxesfitemdetail.aspx?=
sfid=3D217687&amp;c=3D950497&amp;i=3D257235659">http://www.wesleyguitars.co=
.uk/storefrontprofiles/deluxesfitemdetail.aspx?sfid=3D217687&amp;c=3D950497=
&amp;i=3D257235659</a><br>
<br>Ricky<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 4:20 PM=
, RP Collier <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:skeptikalist@gmail.com=
">skeptikalist@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204=
, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word;"><br><div><div class=3D"im"><div>On Ma=
y 25, 2011, at 6:24 AM, Ricky Graham wrote:</div><br></div><div class=3D"im=
"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color=
: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: n=
ormal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; te=
xt-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0p=
x; font-size: medium;">Any current suggestions for a simple travel guitar?<=
/span></blockquote>
<br></div></div><div><br></div><br><div>I want one of these</div><div><br><=
/div><div><a href=3D"http://blackbirdguitars.com/rider_steel.html" target=
=3D"_blank">http://blackbirdguitars.com/rider_steel.html</a></div><div><br>=
</div>
<div><br></div><div>regards</div><div><br></div><div>BobC</div><div><br></d=
iv><div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><a href=3D"http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j" t=
arget=3D"_blank">http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j</a></div></div></div></blockquot=
e>
</div><br>

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you didn't mention "cuffs on pants"!!!!!


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We carry these at the store I work at, seem to be of decent quality
with  cool custom made gig bags for them that make you look like you  
are wearing a parachute. room in the bag for a lap top as well
http://www.voyageairguitar.com/site/
Bill
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<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">We carry these at the store I work at, seem to be of decent quality<div>with &nbsp;cool custom made gig bags for them that make you look like you are wearing a parachute. room in the bag for a lap top as well</div><div><a href="http://www.voyageairguitar.com/site/">http://www.voyageairguitar.com/site/</a></div><div>Bill</div></body></html>
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Hi all,

If anyone here listens to the "Matt's experimental and/or eclectic
world of wonder" podcast, there's a new edition up (episode #5) on
http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com.

Looping Content?
--There's a duo between Daryl Shawn and myself, from our live show at
the Ivy Room in El Cerrito, CA last fall.
--Dawid Szczesny's song is looped, but I don't think it's actual live looping.
--Steve Roden's track might be created using DOD DFX-94s. (He told me
a few years ago he uses them, and the loop intervals sound about
right.)

00:00) Opening Chimes

00:19) BoorBaar "King Pantyman"
from "A Churlish Disturbance", 2011

07:45) COH "Path# 04"
from "Pantherns EP", 2006

13:05) Daryl Shawn & Matt Davignon - excerpt from performance at
Kingman's Ivy Room, 10/20/2010

17:49) Blakroc featuring Raekwon "Stay off the Fuckin' Flowers"
from "Blakroc", 2009

20:15) Nurse With Wound "Mummer's Little Weeper"
from "An Awkward Pause", 1999

25:24) Dawid Szczesny "Fully Functional"
from "Luxated Symmetry", 2008

28:56) Efterklang "Towards the Bare Trees"
from "Under Giant Trees", 2007

32:03) Steve Roden "Pathway. ('It was a Lovely Sight, Against the
Sky.')" (excerpt)
from "Schindler House", 2001

40:07) Geinoh Yamashirogumi "Primordial Germination"
from "Ecophony Rinne", 1986

51:36) The Oscillation "Future Echo"
from "Veils", 2011

57:10) Supersilent "4.5"
from "4", 1998

-- 
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt

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that is some mind blowing harp man!

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 6:20 AM, Boris Plotnikov <ploboris@gmail.com> wrote=
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> Thank you Daniel!
>
> 2011/5/25 Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com>:
>> Holy moses! =A0An amazing player!
>> Very inspiring , Boris!
>> Daniel
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Another inspiring looping artist!  Just loved this share-- thanks Andre. =
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The world is full of amazing talent. =20

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Hey ricky.
The best best best travel guitar i've used (and i've been around the block)
is the vagabond travel guitar. It is my favorite guitar period... i use it
more than any of my other guitars because of its tone, feel and general easy
flow. Its a full size scale/neck with a smaller body. And with a pickup it
has a HUGE sound.

www.stringsmith.com

best (travel) guitar ever.

-Eric

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 6:24 AM, Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com>wrote:

> Any current suggestions for a simple travel guitar? I need one for
> conferences.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Ricky
>
> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Scott Hansen <evanpeewee@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> interesting vid and guitar. i recognize the headpiece on that guitar-it's
>> an ABM-i had one for my 2nd "klein-like" project. i actually liked it way
>> better than the standard steinberger headpiece, but the funny thing when i
>> sold all my steinberger gear and moved away from headless guitars...the
>> steinberger headpiece sold for double what the ABM one did-which i thought
>> was odd, b/c in my estimation it was actually a better design, easier to
>> install, and looked cooler (IMO-ha). oh well. a cool guitar though for
>> sure....
>> s----
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> we have seen several several products in the past decades that were
>> somehow foldable.
>> they all disappeared again.
>> maybe they were too complicated?
>>
>> Claude Bowald, one of my best friends and a very sensible guitar player
>> built a very simple version and it seems to work!
>>
>> have a look:
>> http://www.youtube.com/bopfigraziella
>>
>> youhou!
>> Matthias
>>
>
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Hey ricky.<br>The best best best travel guitar i&#39;ve used (and i&#39;ve =
been around the block) is the vagabond travel guitar. It is my favorite gui=
tar period... i use it more than any of my other guitars because of its ton=
e, feel and general easy flow. Its a full size scale/neck with a smaller bo=
dy. And with a pickup it has a HUGE sound.<br>
<br><a href=3D"http://www.stringsmith.com">www.stringsmith.com</a><br><br>b=
est (travel) guitar ever.<br><br>-Eric<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On=
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=3D"mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com">rickygrahammusic@gmail.com</a>&gt;</=
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Any current sugge=
stions for a simple travel guitar? I need one for conferences.<br><br>Thank=
s in advance,<br>
Ricky<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Sco=
tt Hansen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:evanpeewee@gmail.com" tar=
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r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div>interesting =
vid and guitar. i recognize the headpiece on that guitar-it&#39;s an ABM-i =
had one for my 2nd &quot;klein-like&quot; project. i actually liked it way =
better than the standard steinberger headpiece, but the funny thing when i =
sold all my steinberger gear and moved away from headless guitars...the ste=
inberger headpiece sold for double what the ABM one did-which i thought was=
 odd, b/c in my estimation it was actually a better design, easier to insta=
ll, and looked cooler (IMO-ha). oh well. a cool guitar though for sure....<=
/div>



<div>s----</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Hi<br><br>we have seen several several products in the past decades th=
at were <br>somehow foldable.<br>they all disappeared again.<br>maybe they =
were too complicated?<br><br>Claude Bowald, one of my best friends and a ve=
ry sensible guitar player <br>


built a very simple version and it seems to work!<br><br>have a look:<br><a=
 href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/bopfigraziella" target=3D"_blank"><font col=
or=3D"#551a8b">http://www.youtube.com/bopfigraziella</font></a><br><br>youh=
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Matthias<br>
</div>
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She is an AMAZING singer=2C listen to her work with Ulf Wakenius VERY GOOD.=
 Check out her site as well and be amazed:http://www.younsunnah.com/
Anders
> Subject: Re: Youn Sun Nah - Calypso Blues
> From: danielthomas4@mac.com
> Date: Wed=2C 25 May 2011 13:50:47 -0700
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=20
> Another inspiring looping artist!  Just loved this share-- thanks Andre. =
=20
> The world is full of amazing talent. =20
>=20
> Daniel=20
> On May 24=2C 2011=2C at 7:16 PM=2C Andr=E9 Donawa wrote:
>=20
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DO2iGwIl-qig
> >=20
> >=20
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> > http://www.youtube.com/user/AndreDonawa
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=2C 25 May 2011 13:50:47 -0700</font><br><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" f=
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Per,

Did you get a chance to do any serious playing on the Ministar? I see
them (and the other models as well) on Ebay all the time ... from what
I've read, they're a little inconsistent on quality, but I've never
heard any reports from someone I know ...

Thanks!

Dennis

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On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 8:12 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Ricky Graham
> <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Any current suggestions for a simple travel guitar? I need one for
>> conferences.
>
>
> Hi Ricky,
>
> I just checked out such a product line at a guitar show this weekend,
> the Ministar. Here's a facebook link for my photos:
> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150190603123195&set=a.10150190601128195.311031.6218343194&type=1&theater
>
> And here's a review I found online:
> http://www.besttravelguitars.com/tag/ministar-travel-guitars/
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> www.looproom.com internet music hub
>
>

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Am 22.05.11 18:41, schrieb William Walker:
>  This is something I've been considering, has any one tried this?  I
> wish there was a similar design with  higher voltages  and higher
> milli-amp specs. 

How high would you need it? It can deliver 2 Amperes for 1 hour. I think
that is a lot. You could easily drive your effects and a small amp for a
complete gig. If you really need more, get two...;-)

But as its based on lithum-ion batteries, it will die at age 3, no
matter if you use it or not... If you use it, it will pay for itself
within a short period of time...

Unfortunately I haven't found a European distribution. It sounds really
promising...

Stefan

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Am 19.05.11 15:37, schrieb Andy Owens:
> Hey, the smallest alternatively powered PA would be wind powered, the
> wind/air would come out of your instrument, travel to the ear of the
> listener, be routed to the eardrum, then routed by nerves to the
> brain, and converted to nerve signals in the legs causing herky jerky
> movements sometimes called dancing. Man I wonder if I could patent
> that?????

In America you can patent anything (even "one click"), no matter how
absurd, but you need expensive lawyers to collect the "intellectual
properties". In the end Apple or Microschuft will buy them and sue you
later, they are used to it and can't stop their engines (patented of
course, don't try to do the same...).

Stefan

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Well, I'm going to find out. I ordered one and it should be here
tomorrow. I'm hoping to give it its first workout on Saturday. Will
report back.

On Thursday, May 26, 2011, Stefan Tiedje <stefantiedje@googlemail.com> wrot=
e:
> Am 22.05.11 18:41, schrieb William Walker:
>> =A0This is something I've been considering, has any one tried this? =A0I
>> wish there was a similar design with =A0higher voltages =A0and higher
>> milli-amp specs.
>
> How high would you need it? It can deliver 2 Amperes for 1 hour. I think
> that is a lot. You could easily drive your effects and a small amp for a
> complete gig. If you really need more, get two...;-)
>
> But as its based on lithum-ion batteries, it will die at age 3, no
> matter if you use it or not... If you use it, it will pay for itself
> within a short period of time...
>
> Unfortunately I haven't found a European distribution. It sounds really
> promising...
>
> Stefan
>
> --
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>
>

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GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY:                   http://galactictravels.info
=======================================================================
Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the
month-long Special Focus on Rudy Adrian.  The Featured CD at Midnight
will be "Par Avion" on Groove Unlimited.  Special Focus page at:
http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#may

Membership week at WDIY is over but your contributions are still
important.  To make it even more rewarding to become a member, you can
get Klaus Schulze DVDs *added* to the regular thank you gifts that are
offered.  Tune in to Galactic Travels for details or visit the website.

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1
FM.  Listen at http://wdiy.org/listen on the internet.

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You're talking about Pedal Juice?
I tried to get my hands on it in Finland, no results yet.

2011/5/26 Zak Kramer <crazyquilt@gmail.com>

> Well, I'm going to find out. I ordered one and it should be here
> tomorrow. I'm hoping to give it its first workout on Saturday. Will
> report back.
>
> On Thursday, May 26, 2011, Stefan Tiedje <stefantiedje@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
> > Am 22.05.11 18:41, schrieb William Walker:
> >>  This is something I've been considering, has any one tried this?  I
> >> wish there was a similar design with  higher voltages  and higher
> >> milli-amp specs.
> >
> > How high would you need it? It can deliver 2 Amperes for 1 hour. I thin=
k
> > that is a lot. You could easily drive your effects and a small amp for =
a
> > complete gig. If you really need more, get two...;-)
> >
> > But as its based on lithum-ion batteries, it will die at age 3, no
> > matter if you use it or not... If you use it, it will pay for itself
> > within a short period of time...
> >
> > Unfortunately I haven't found a European distribution. It sounds really
> > promising...
> >
> > Stefan
> >
> > --
> > Les Ondes M=E9morielles--------x--
> > -_____-----------|-----------|--
> > -(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()-------
> > - _|_)----|-----()--------------
> > ---------()----------TJ Shredder
> > http://tjshredder.wordpress.com/
> >
> >
>
> --
> Zak Kramer
>
>


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You&#39;re talking about Pedal Juice?<br>I tried to get my hands on it in F=
inland, no results yet.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/5/26 Zak Kra=
mer <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:crazyquilt@gmail.com">crazyquil=
t@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Well, I&#39;m goi=
ng to find out. I ordered one and it should be here<br>
tomorrow. I&#39;m hoping to give it its first workout on Saturday. Will<br>
report back.<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
On Thursday, May 26, 2011, Stefan Tiedje &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:stefantiedje=
@googlemail.com">stefantiedje@googlemail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Am 22.05.11 18:41, schrieb William Walker:<br>
&gt;&gt; =A0This is something I&#39;ve been considering, has any one tried =
this? =A0I<br>
&gt;&gt; wish there was a similar design with =A0higher voltages =A0and hig=
her<br>
&gt;&gt; milli-amp specs.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; How high would you need it? It can deliver 2 Amperes for 1 hour. I thi=
nk<br>
&gt; that is a lot. You could easily drive your effects and a small amp for=
 a<br>
&gt; complete gig. If you really need more, get two...;-)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; But as its based on lithum-ion batteries, it will die at age 3, no<br>
&gt; matter if you use it or not... If you use it, it will pay for itself<b=
r>
&gt; within a short period of time...<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Unfortunately I haven&#39;t found a European distribution. It sounds r=
eally<br>
&gt; promising...<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Stefan<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; Les Ondes M=E9morielles--------x--<br>
&gt; -_____-----------|-----------|--<br>
&gt; -(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()-------<br>
&gt; - _|_)----|-----()--------------<br>
&gt; ---------()----------TJ Shredder<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://tjshredder.wordpress.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://=
tjshredder.wordpress.com/</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div></div>--<br>
<font color=3D"#888888">Zak Kramer<br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Petri Lahtinen<b=
r><br><a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www=
.petrilahtinen.com</a><br><br>

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My apologies if someone already said this, but I use an Enercell 90W
Portable AC Power
Inverter<http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3D3719246&fi=
lterName=3DBrand&filterValue=3DEnercell>to
power my RC-50 outside when busking.  It takes a while to charge at
home,
but it does the job and isn't too expensive.  Haven't tried Pedal Juice...

Wytold
www.Wytold.com <http://www.wytold.com/>

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Petri Lahtinen <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.co=
m
> wrote:

> You're talking about Pedal Juice?
> I tried to get my hands on it in Finland, no results yet.
>
>
> 2011/5/26 Zak Kramer <crazyquilt@gmail.com>
>
>> Well, I'm going to find out. I ordered one and it should be here
>> tomorrow. I'm hoping to give it its first workout on Saturday. Will
>> report back.
>>
>> On Thursday, May 26, 2011, Stefan Tiedje <stefantiedje@googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Am 22.05.11 18:41, schrieb William Walker:
>> >>  This is something I've been considering, has any one tried this?  I
>> >> wish there was a similar design with  higher voltages  and higher
>> >> milli-amp specs.
>> >
>> > How high would you need it? It can deliver 2 Amperes for 1 hour. I thi=
nk
>> > that is a lot. You could easily drive your effects and a small amp for=
 a
>> > complete gig. If you really need more, get two...;-)
>> >
>> > But as its based on lithum-ion batteries, it will die at age 3, no
>> > matter if you use it or not... If you use it, it will pay for itself
>> > within a short period of time...
>> >
>> > Unfortunately I haven't found a European distribution. It sounds reall=
y
>> > promising...
>> >
>> > Stefan
>> >
>> > --
>> > Les Ondes M=E9morielles--------x--
>> > -_____-----------|-----------|--
>> > -(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()-------
>> > - _|_)----|-----()--------------
>> > ---------()----------TJ Shredder
>> > http://tjshredder.wordpress.com/
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Zak Kramer
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Petri Lahtinen
>
> http://www.petrilahtinen.com
>
>

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<div>My apologies if=A0someone already said this,=A0but I use an <a href=3D=
"http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3D3719246&amp;filter=
Name=3DBrand&amp;filterValue=3DEnercell">Enercell 90W Portable AC Power Inv=
erter</a> to power my RC-50 outside when busking.=A0 It takes a while to ch=
arge at home, but it does the job and isn&#39;t too expensive.=A0 Haven&#39=
;t tried Pedal Juice...</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>Wytold</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.wytold.com/">www.Wytold.com</a><br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Petri Lahtinen =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com">kolleg=
avalmentaja@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">You&#39;re talking about Pedal J=
uice?<br>I tried to get my hands on it in Finland, no results yet.=20
<div>
<div></div>
<div class=3D"h5"><br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/5/26 Zak Kramer <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:crazyquilt@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">crazyquilt@gmail.com</=
a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; MARGIN: 0pt 0=
pt 0pt 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">Well, I&#39;m going =
to find out. I ordered one and it should be here<br>tomorrow. I&#39;m hopin=
g to give it its first workout on Saturday. Will<br>
report back.<br>
<div>
<div></div>
<div><br>On Thursday, May 26, 2011, Stefan Tiedje &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ste=
fantiedje@googlemail.com" target=3D"_blank">stefantiedje@googlemail.com</a>=
&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; Am 22.05.11 18:41, schrieb William Walker:<br>&gt;&gt; =
=A0This is something I&#39;ve been considering, has any one tried this? =A0=
I<br>
&gt;&gt; wish there was a similar design with =A0higher voltages =A0and hig=
her<br>&gt;&gt; milli-amp specs.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; How high would you need it=
? It can deliver 2 Amperes for 1 hour. I think<br>&gt; that is a lot. You c=
ould easily drive your effects and a small amp for a<br>
&gt; complete gig. If you really need more, get two...;-)<br>&gt;<br>&gt; B=
ut as its based on lithum-ion batteries, it will die at age 3, no<br>&gt; m=
atter if you use it or not... If you use it, it will pay for itself<br>
&gt; within a short period of time...<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Unfortunately I haven=
&#39;t found a European distribution. It sounds really<br>&gt; promising...=
<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Stefan<br>&gt;<br>&gt; --<br>&gt; Les Ondes M=E9morielles-=
-------x--<br>
&gt; -_____-----------|-----------|--<br>&gt; -(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()----=
---<br>&gt; - _|_)----|-----()--------------<br>&gt; ---------()----------T=
J Shredder<br>&gt; <a href=3D"http://tjshredder.wordpress.com/" target=3D"_=
blank">http://tjshredder.wordpress.com/</a><br>
&gt;<br>&gt;<br><br></div></div>--<br><font color=3D"#888888">Zak Kramer<br=
><br></font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br></div></div><font =
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http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/110526.html

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem,
PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet.  WDIY also broadcasts
in Digital HD at 88.1 FM.

                 Show #738                May 26, 2011.

RECAP:
On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Rudy Adrian.  The
Featured CD at Midnight was "Par Avion" on Groove Unlimited Records.

Rudy Adrian: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#may

PLAYLIST:

11:04 pm
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Kevin Braheny        Starflight 1 *       Galaxies (Hearts of Space)
Anthony Paul Kerby   Gathering Memories   Distant Shadows (Construct)
   and Tomas Weiss
Vic Hennegan         As the Crow Flies    Field of Worlds and Mirrors
Blow Up Hollywood    eos                  Take Flight (none)
Ian Boddy            Skylights            Pearl (DiN)
Ian Boddy            Metropolis           Pearl (DiN)
Ian Boddy            Living Planet        Pearl (DiN)
Steve Dinsdale       On the Other Side I  On the Other Side (Northern
                                             Echo)
Forrest Fang         Chant of Urm         Unbound (Projekt)

12:00 am
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Rudy Adrian          Par Avion            Par Avion (Groove Unlimited)
Rudy Adrian          Bavarian Eagle       Par Avion (Groove Unlimited)
Rudy Adrian          Across the Canyons   Par Avion (Groove Unlimited)
Rudy Adrian          Soaring Birds        Par Avion (Groove Unlimited)
Rudy Adrian          Sore Birds           Par Avion (Groove Unlimited)
Rudy Adrian          Starfields 2-part 1  Par Avion (Groove Unlimited)

1:00 am

  * = excerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
++ = Advance CDR from Artist
-- = Background music under interview


NEXT SHOW:
On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on Radio
Massacre International.  The Featured CD at Midnight will be
"Antisocial" on Northern Echo.

RMI: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#jun

Bill
========================================================================
Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show,
Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in
Trexlertown and Fogelsville.  WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio
on 88.1 FM.
Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info
Listen to WDIY on-line.

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wow-many thanks for posting the A Belew vid link, i watched all the stuff
last night. reminded me of why i loved him in the 80s so much!!!! after
watching what he can do w/ his parker and updated effects
i wish he'd do and updated version of his "desire caught by the tail"
album-the all guitar stuff....the interview segment was really good too! i
still wish someone would ask him about his switch from SINGLE COILS
for so many yrs (most of his career) to now w/ the parkers he has HUMBUCKERS
for his sound. but he still sounds great. an amazing guitarist. thanks for
posting that!!!!!!
s---



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ast night. reminded me of why i loved him in the 80s so much!!!! after watc=
hing what he can do w/ his parker and updated effects<br>i wish he&#39;d do=
 and updated version of his &quot;desire caught by the tail&quot; album-the=
 all guitar stuff....the interview segment was really good too! i still wis=
h someone would ask him about his switch from SINGLE COILS<br>
for so many yrs (most of his career) to now w/ the parkers he has HUMBUCKER=
S for his sound. but he still sounds great. an amazing guitarist. thanks fo=
r posting that!!!!!!<br>s---<br><br><br><br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.c=
om/watch?v=3DYCENW-IrKTU&amp;feature=3Dplayer_embedded#at=3D195">http://www=
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hi all,

The largest German guitar magazine (Gitarre und Bass) has expressed interest
that I write something for them about livelooping. They have never written
anything about it so far and they realize that the topic has become
interesting enough for many guitarists to be presented in the magazine. 

I won't be able to start writing until mid-July because I'm busy with other
things now. Because it is such a complex subject, it looks like it might
turn into a series of articles rather than just one. I haven't really
started to think about the specifics but they want me to send them a rough
outline. 

I think it would make sense to write about 

1) what livelooping is - a general introduction and overview, including a
paragraph about the difference between livelooping and using prerecorded
loops; this introduction would already contain some of what the later
articles would look at in more detail, such as a bit of history, guitarists
and other musicians who use livelooping, different styles and approaches,
and a look at the technology;

2) the history of livelooping in some detail (something I already wrote
about 15 years ago - the article is still online at Looper's Delight);

3) livelooping styles, approaches and strategies and musical possibilities,
with examples of livelooping musicians, ideally guitarists, ideally world
famous guitarists, including a discography + list of online resources; 

4) something about the technology, hardware/software (enough material for at
least two articles), maybe including a comparison chart of the tools that
are currently available;

5) I could also imagine articles about how to play rock tunes with
livelooping (something that has recently been discussed here), complete with
scores, step-by-step-how-tos, and all. That would be something I would
possibly leave to one of you (with credits etc. of course) because some of
you are real specialists on this, and I am not. Please contact me offline if
you feel you could do that well.  Too bad that the magazine doesn't allow
for included videos, but I could at least point to them - such as the truly
glorious cover versions that Randolf Arriola did recently. Randolf do you
feel you could analyze them and write about them?

So again, I'd be grateful for any suggestions (structure/topics). 

There are a gazillion livelooping guitarists but at the moment I really
wonder which of them are famous enough to be known to the majority of
magazine readers (apart from Robert Fripp of course, who would certainly be
the #1 example, if you like him or not). Of course there is a lot that I
could write about us, the crowd of incredibly talented Looper's Delight
guitarists, and I hope there will be room for that ... but I feel it would
be good to introduce the topic in a way that would make it seem not too
esoteric and more mainstream (as the magazine is a mainstream guitar
magazine), like the next big thing, or at least like something that many
guitarists do already, guitarists that the readers can easily identify with.
I don't know any world famous guitarists, other than Fripp, employing
livelooping in an extensive way (please correct me), but many of them might
employ livelooping techniques here and there - I'd be grateful for concrete
examples, such as the Jaco Pastorius solo with Weatherreport, or was it Joni
Mitchell, where he used a delay pedal to create a rhythmical backdrop.

-Michael Peters

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Hi Michael,
this is a great chance!
I like your "professional" approach.
You can found the dawn of loop's universe in the first works of Steve Reich ("it's gonna rain"; "come out"...)
You can mention at the CD Electric Conterpoint with Pat Metheny,  too.
About world famous guitarist I think at David Torn. Not so famus, but intresting is Eivind Aarset.
Keep us informed!
Matteo




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Ogg: livelooping articles for a guitar magazine

hi all,

The largest German guitar magazine (Gitarre und Bass) has expressed interest
that I write something for them about livelooping. They have never written
anything about it so far and they realize that the topic has become
interesting enough for many guitarists to be presented in the magazine. 

I won't be able to start writing until mid-July because I'm busy with other
things now. Because it is such a complex subject, it looks like it might
turn into a series of articles rather than just one. I haven't really
started to think about the specifics but they want me to send them a rough
outline. 

I think it would make sense to write about 

1) what livelooping is - a general introduction and overview, including a
paragraph about the difference between livelooping and using prerecorded
loops; this introduction would already contain some of what the later
articles would look at in more detail, such as a bit of history, guitarists
and other musicians who use livelooping, different styles and approaches,
and a look at the technology;

2) the history of livelooping in some detail (something I already wrote
about 15 years ago - the article is still online at Looper's Delight);

3) livelooping styles, approaches and strategies and musical possibilities,
with examples of livelooping musicians, ideally guitarists, ideally world
famous guitarists, including a discography + list of online resources; 

4) something about the technology, hardware/software (enough material for at
least two articles), maybe including a comparison chart of the tools that
are currently available;

5) I could also imagine articles about how to play rock tunes with
livelooping (something that has recently been discussed here), complete with
scores, step-by-step-how-tos, and all. That would be something I would
possibly leave to one of you (with credits etc. of course) because some of
you are real specialists on this, and I am not. Please contact me offline if
you feel you could do that well.  Too bad that the magazine doesn't allow
for included videos, but I could at least point to them - such as the truly
glorious cover versions that Randolf Arriola did recently. Randolf do you
feel you could analyze them and write about them?

So again, I'd be grateful for any suggestions (structure/topics). 

There are a gazillion livelooping guitarists but at the moment I really
wonder which of them are famous enough to be known to the majority of
magazine readers (apart from Robert Fripp of course, who would certainly be
the #1 example, if you like him or not). Of course there is a lot that I
could write about us, the crowd of incredibly talented Looper's Delight
guitarists, and I hope there will be room for that ... but I feel it would
be good to introduce the topic in a way that would make it seem not too
esoteric and more mainstream (as the magazine is a mainstream guitar
magazine), like the next big thing, or at least like something that many
guitarists do already, guitarists that the readers can easily identify with.
I don't know any world famous guitarists, other than Fripp, employing
livelooping in an extensive way (please correct me), but many of them might
employ livelooping techniques here and there - I'd be grateful for concrete
examples, such as the Jaco Pastorius solo with Weatherreport, or was it Joni
Mitchell, where he used a delay pedal to create a rhythmical backdrop.

-Michael Peters





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Hi Michael,<br>this is a great chance!<br>I like your "professional" approa=
ch.<br>You can found the dawn of loop's universe in the first works of Stev=
e Reich ("it's gonna rain"; "come out"...)<br>You can mention at the CD Ele=
ctric Conterpoint with Pat Metheny,  too.<br>About world famous guitarist I=
 think at David Torn. Not so famus, but intresting is Eivind Aarset.<br>Kee=
p us informed!<br>Matteo<br>
<br>
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cles for a guitar magazine<br><br>hi all,<br><br>The largest German guitar =
magazine (Gitarre und Bass) has expressed interest<br>that I write somethin=
g for them about livelooping. They have never written<br>anything about it =
so far and they realize that the topic has become<br>interesting enough for=
 many guitarists to be presented in the magazine. <br><br>I won't be able t=
o start writing until mid-July because I'm busy with other<br>things now. B=
ecause it is such a complex subject, it looks like it might<br>turn into a =
series of articles rather than just one. I haven't really<br>started to thi=
nk about the specifics but they want me to send them a rough<br>outline. <b=
r><br>I think it would make sense to write about <br><br>1) what liveloopin=
g is - a general introduction and overview, including a<br>paragraph about =
the difference between livelooping and using prerecorded<br>loops; this int=
roduction would already contain some of what the later<br>articles would lo=
ok at in more detail, such as a bit of history, guitarists<br>and other mus=
icians who use livelooping, different styles and approaches,<br>and a look =
at the technology;<br><br>2) the history of livelooping in some detail (som=
ething I already wrote<br>about 15 years ago - the article is still online =
at Looper's Delight);<br><br>3) livelooping styles, approaches and strategi=
es and musical possibilities,<br>with examples of livelooping musicians, id=
eally guitarists, ideally world<br>famous guitarists, including a discograp=
hy + list of online resources; <br><br>4) something about the technology, h=
ardware/software (enough material for at<br>least two articles), maybe incl=
uding a comparison chart of the tools that<br>are currently available;<br><=
br>5) I could also imagine articles about how to play rock tunes with<br>li=
velooping (something that has recently been discussed here), complete with<=
br>scores, step-by-step-how-tos, and all. That would be something I would<b=
r>possibly leave to one of you (with credits etc. of course) because some o=
f<br>you are real specialists on this, and I am not. Please contact me offl=
ine if<br>you feel you could do that well.&nbsp; Too bad that the magazine =
doesn't allow<br>for included videos, but I could at least point to them - =
such as the truly<br>glorious cover versions that Randolf Arriola did recen=
tly. Randolf do you<br>feel you could analyze them and write about them?<br=
><br>So again, I'd be grateful for any suggestions (structure/topics). <br>=
<br>There are a gazillion livelooping guitarists but at the moment I really=
<br>wonder which of them are famous enough to be known to the majority of<b=
r>magazine readers (apart from Robert Fripp of course, who would certainly =
be<br>the #1 example, if you like him or not). Of course there is a lot tha=
t I<br>could write about us, the crowd of incredibly talented Looper's Deli=
ght<br>guitarists, and I hope there will be room for that ... but I feel it=
 would<br>be good to introduce the topic in a way that would make it seem n=
ot too<br>esoteric and more mainstream (as the magazine is a mainstream gui=
tar<br>magazine), like the next big thing, or at least like something that =
many<br>guitarists do already, guitarists that the readers can easily ident=
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ul for concrete<br>examples, such as the Jaco Pastorius solo with Weatherre=
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Will the article be in German or English Michael ?
Sounds interesting.



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On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
> I'd be grateful for concrete
> examples, such as the Jaco Pastorius solo with Weatherreport, or was it Joni
> Mitchell, where he used a delay pedal to create a rhythmical backdrop.

Two almost mainstream and very simple examples right off the top of my head:
David Gilmore did something at a well known concert. I think he froze
guitar chords as "pads" and played over them. Brian Mays solo versus a
tape delay is also famous, to be found on an old live recording (I
think it's that old We-Will-Rock-You thing).

I'd like to remind you of an aspect that wasn't mentioned in your
post, the two complementary fundamental ways of using live looping: as
instrument and as loop recorder. These two options can be presented
early in the article to help the reader to a wider perspective and
better understanding of what is presented in the text. I just learned
from doing two public live looping clinics this month how much that
can help a newcomer.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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www.perboysen.com
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On May 28, 2011, at 7:41 AM, ligeti@alice.it wrote:

> You can found the dawn of loop's universe in the first works of Steve =
Reich ("it's gonna rain"; "come out"...)

Use of tape loops is probably much older than that. Pierre Schaefer =
1940s?

But it's not live.

Victor.=

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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Michael Peters wrote:
> I don't know any world famous guitarists, other than Fripp, employing
> livelooping in an extensive way (please correct me)
I don't know if these people are famous in Europe or not, but
Bill Frissell uses a hell of a lot of looping in his performances as well
as Nels Cline (who plays with Wilco which is a super popular band).
the great producer Jon Brion (Fiona Apple) has a weekly live looping gig
in LA.     Kellar Williams is very famous in the States and he does large
multi-instrumental shows that depend entirely on live looping.

Our own Zoe Keating's recent record spent 14 weeks on the Billboard 
Classical music charts
and has contributed her solo looped cello to tours and projects by Imogen
Heap, Curt Smith (of Tears for Fears), Amanda Palmer, DJ Shadow, Rasputina
and movie sound track genius, Mark Isham.

These folks might just be famous in America though.

Also, for what it's worth,  I was listening to NPR the other day and in 
an hour of
all things considered I heard looping music three different times.

Looping music is showing up regularly in movie soundtracks and car 
commercials
in the US.

I'm also seeing a lot of loopers on a lot of guitar players pedal 
boards,   probably 2 to 3 times as
many as I did 5 years ago.

there is a lot of proliferation of live looping going on from my vantage 
point.

and lastly,  Michael,   I'd be happy to contribute an article on time 
and timing techniques for
modern guitarists that can be radically enhance with live looping 
techniques if that's ever appropriate
for your series of articles (or an interview about said subject if you 
must be the writer for the magazine).
That will be the next subject that I will positing to the 2012 PASIC 
convention (the Percussion Arts Society
is the largest musical organization on earth and PASIC is their annual 
convention).

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thx Rick ... have never consciously listened to Nels Cline but of course I
love Frisell ... gotta find typical looping structures in his music that I
could point to ...

thanks for the recommendations! as for a potential timing techniques
article, yes let's keep that in mind. 

-Michael

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Hi Michael,

Congrats on the magazine scoop.

Here's a clip of Jaco doing his thing.
An incredible innovator for his time.
Definitely pushed the boundaries of what bass was supposed to sound like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvSOquDOfVo

Andre

http://islandfunk.com


On Sat, May 28, 2011 7:09 am, Michael Peters wrote:
> hi all,
>
> The largest German guitar magazine (Gitarre und Bass) has expressed
> interest
> that I write something for them about livelooping. They have never written
> anything about it so far and they realize that the topic has become
> interesting enough for many guitarists to be presented in the magazine.
>
> I won't be able to start writing until mid-July because I'm busy with
> other
> things now. Because it is such a complex subject, it looks like it might
> turn into a series of articles rather than just one. I haven't really
> started to think about the specifics but they want me to send them a rough
> outline.
>
> I think it would make sense to write about
>
> 1) what livelooping is - a general introduction and overview, including a
> paragraph about the difference between livelooping and using prerecorded
> loops; this introduction would already contain some of what the later
> articles would look at in more detail, such as a bit of history,
> guitarists
> and other musicians who use livelooping, different styles and approaches,
> and a look at the technology;
>
> 2) the history of livelooping in some detail (something I already wrote
> about 15 years ago - the article is still online at Looper's Delight);
>
> 3) livelooping styles, approaches and strategies and musical
> possibilities,
> with examples of livelooping musicians, ideally guitarists, ideally world
> famous guitarists, including a discography + list of online resources;
>
> 4) something about the technology, hardware/software (enough material for
> at
> least two articles), maybe including a comparison chart of the tools that
> are currently available;
>
> 5) I could also imagine articles about how to play rock tunes with
> livelooping (something that has recently been discussed here), complete
> with
> scores, step-by-step-how-tos, and all. That would be something I would
> possibly leave to one of you (with credits etc. of course) because some of
> you are real specialists on this, and I am not. Please contact me offline
> if
> you feel you could do that well.  Too bad that the magazine doesn't allow
> for included videos, but I could at least point to them - such as the
> truly
> glorious cover versions that Randolf Arriola did recently. Randolf do you
> feel you could analyze them and write about them?
>
> So again, I'd be grateful for any suggestions (structure/topics).
>
> There are a gazillion livelooping guitarists but at the moment I really
> wonder which of them are famous enough to be known to the majority of
> magazine readers (apart from Robert Fripp of course, who would certainly
> be
> the #1 example, if you like him or not). Of course there is a lot that I
> could write about us, the crowd of incredibly talented Looper's Delight
> guitarists, and I hope there will be room for that ... but I feel it would
> be good to introduce the topic in a way that would make it seem not too
> esoteric and more mainstream (as the magazine is a mainstream guitar
> magazine), like the next big thing, or at least like something that many
> guitarists do already, guitarists that the readers can easily identify
> with.
> I don't know any world famous guitarists, other than Fripp, employing
> livelooping in an extensive way (please correct me), but many of them
> might
> employ livelooping techniques here and there - I'd be grateful for
> concrete
> examples, such as the Jaco Pastorius solo with Weatherreport, or was it
> Joni
> Mitchell, where he used a delay pedal to create a rhythmical backdrop.
>
> -Michael Peters
>
>


http://islandfunk.com
http://www.andredonawa.com
http://www.youtube.com/user/AndreDonawa

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Michael,

I have read through other's responses and can't think of anything to  
add.

So, all I have to contribute is encouragement.

Sounds like a great opportunity to say something useful and  
informative to the (German speaking) world about what we do.

The looping universe has expanded a great deal in recent years.

It's not like it was back in the '70s or '80s when the only popular  
names associated with it were basically Fripp and Eno - with the  
addition of a lot of lesser-known names like, Terry Riley, Steve  
Reich, Paul Dresher, and a host of totally unknown musical nerds  
working in academic circles (plus the odd, lone freak working in his  
garage or bedroom).

Nowadays, there are myriads of artists working fairly publicly doing  
looping as a common part of their work, and a whole host of devices  
and technologies to enable them to do so.

Perhaps Fripp and Eno are household names to us, but they have never  
really been well known to the vast majority of popular musical  
listeners and creators.

Looping (whether done with material created live on the spot or by use  
of canned loops) is no longer just something from the "fringe" of  
musical enterprise - it's front and center.

In fact, there is so much going on (both in terms of current  
performers and developing technologies) it will be hard for you, I  
imagine, not to try to write an article but an encyclopedia.

Do a good job on the first one and maybe, just perhaps, it will become  
a series of articles.

Good luck.

Best regards,

Ted

On May 28, 2011, at 4:09 AM, Michael Peters wrote:

> hi all,
>
> The largest German guitar magazine (Gitarre und Bass) has expressed  
> interest
> that I write something for them about livelooping. They have never  
> written
> anything about it so far and they realize that the topic has become
> interesting enough for many guitarists to be presented in the  
> magazine.

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Yes, congrats indeed!

I don't know if she's world famous, but she may be familiar to euro audience=
s and that's KT Tunstall, who got her big break on the Jools Holland show lo=
oping with a Headrush. If not famous, then certainly mainstream.=20=

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Some of my favorite (famous) looping guitarists:

Adrian Belew
Robert Fripp
David Torn
Bill Walker (growing fame-- A loopers looper.  IMO, He ought to be mentioned as a looping innovator who is widely known among looping guitarists and technology manufacturers as a critical pioneer in the genre)  Can I get an AMEN?
Bob Brozman (authentic roots acoustic guitarist who loops "acoustronica" with a collaborator / musician)
Bill Frizzle
Phil Keaggy

Many more are coming to mind..   But there are others on this list who will weigh in too...


:)

Daniel 


On May 28, 2011, at 4:09 AM, Michael Peters wrote:

> hi all,
> 
> The largest German guitar magazine (Gitarre und Bass) has expressed interest
> that I write something for them about livelooping. They have never written
> anything about it so far and they realize that the topic has become
> interesting enough for many guitarists to be presented in the magazine. 
> 
> I won't be able to start writing until mid-July because I'm busy with other
> things now. Because it is such a complex subject, it looks like it might
> turn into a series of articles rather than just one. I haven't really
> started to think about the specifics but they want me to send them a rough
> outline. 
> 
> I think it would make sense to write about 
> 
> 1) what livelooping is - a general introduction and overview, including a
> paragraph about the difference between livelooping and using prerecorded
> loops; this introduction would already contain some of what the later
> articles would look at in more detail, such as a bit of history, guitarists
> and other musicians who use livelooping, different styles and approaches,
> and a look at the technology;
> 
> 2) the history of livelooping in some detail (something I already wrote
> about 15 years ago - the article is still online at Looper's Delight);
> 
> 3) livelooping styles, approaches and strategies and musical possibilities,
> with examples of livelooping musicians, ideally guitarists, ideally world
> famous guitarists, including a discography + list of online resources; 
> 
> 4) something about the technology, hardware/software (enough material for at
> least two articles), maybe including a comparison chart of the tools that
> are currently available;
> 
> 5) I could also imagine articles about how to play rock tunes with
> livelooping (something that has recently been discussed here), complete with
> scores, step-by-step-how-tos, and all. That would be something I would
> possibly leave to one of you (with credits etc. of course) because some of
> you are real specialists on this, and I am not. Please contact me offline if
> you feel you could do that well.  Too bad that the magazine doesn't allow
> for included videos, but I could at least point to them - such as the truly
> glorious cover versions that Randolf Arriola did recently. Randolf do you
> feel you could analyze them and write about them?
> 
> So again, I'd be grateful for any suggestions (structure/topics). 
> 
> There are a gazillion livelooping guitarists but at the moment I really
> wonder which of them are famous enough to be known to the majority of
> magazine readers (apart from Robert Fripp of course, who would certainly be
> the #1 example, if you like him or not). Of course there is a lot that I
> could write about us, the crowd of incredibly talented Looper's Delight
> guitarists, and I hope there will be room for that ... but I feel it would
> be good to introduce the topic in a way that would make it seem not too
> esoteric and more mainstream (as the magazine is a mainstream guitar
> magazine), like the next big thing, or at least like something that many
> guitarists do already, guitarists that the readers can easily identify with.
> I don't know any world famous guitarists, other than Fripp, employing
> livelooping in an extensive way (please correct me), but many of them might
> employ livelooping techniques here and there - I'd be grateful for concrete
> examples, such as the Jaco Pastorius solo with Weatherreport, or was it Joni
> Mitchell, where he used a delay pedal to create a rhythmical backdrop.
> 
> -Michael Peters
> 

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Hi Michael, sounds like you have you hands full:-)
   If i might add my own two cents.  I understand  that famous faces  
and names sell magazines,  and gear, and many of the folks mentioned  
so far will help in that way, and do represent artists who either are  
actively using looping in there live shows, or are iconic musicians  
with storied careers who have been doing it  since the technology  
first arrived on the scene. In most cases the looping technology is  
being used in a fairly conventional way, create  a  loop and  add  
overdubs. example: Neil Schon of Journey as been using a pair of EDP's  
forever (Kim Flint helped him set them up) which he uses un clocked to  
lay down his rythm tracks live. note to  Randolph: if you get a   
version of  Don't Stop Believin'  together, I might be able pull James  
Durbin in to sing it :-)  I think its a great idea to show a popular  
tune adapted for looping step by step. Also  looping seems to be the  
go to tool for many guitarist singer/ songwriters  like KT Tunstill,   
and  Joseph Arthur,  to flesh out there solo sound.  There is so much  
of this going on among the new crop of singer songwriters its hard to  
keep track of. But so far with the possible  exception of Eivind  
Aarset who I haven't seen play live, so I can't verify, most of these  
established acts are not perhaps using the technology in the way that  
Per described,  of looper as instrument. And for that reason alone I  
hope you will get a chance to shine a light on  the extended  
techniques we have  been discussing, using,  and sharing via web  
links.  I subscribe to Guitar Player magazine and I've been watching  
closely as they weather the transition from print to a combo of print  
and web based zine, and it seems like they are puttung a lot more  
links to extend articles and video based interviews and demonstrations  
in there shrinking print magazine, as the expand the web side of it.  
What this might allow for is more liberty in exposing people to the  
not so mainstream  acts who are doing exciting things with these  
extended techniques.  I don't know how everyone else feels but I'd  
rather watch a vid of someone I've never seen play before do something  
new and interesting with the tools than see an establish player, even  
one who has been around long enough to have the bragging rights to  
have been "there" since the beginning, do something they've been doing  
with the technology for the last 20-30 years.  I'd like to see the  
community grow so I am in favor of you mentioning LD as well, As well  
as the Y2K series and various Looping festivals that have occured.  
When I thinking of cutting edge looping,  I don't think of Bill  
Frissel or John Scofield throwing a bit of backwards DL-4 loop over a  
vamp. Don't get me wrong I love both of those guys, but I hope you can  
cast some light on lesser known artists who are really inovating, some  
of which inhabit this list.

  Bill
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-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Michael, sounds like you =
have you hands full:-)&nbsp;<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;If i might add my own two =
cents. &nbsp;I understand &nbsp;that famous faces and names sell =
magazines, &nbsp;and gear, and many of the folks mentioned so far will =
help in that way, and do represent artists who either are actively using =
looping in there live shows, or are iconic musicians with storied =
careers who have been doing it &nbsp;since the technology first arrived =
on the scene. In most cases the looping technology is being used in a =
fairly conventional way, create &nbsp;a &nbsp;loop and &nbsp;add =
overdubs. example: Neil Schon of Journey as been using a pair of EDP's =
forever (Kim Flint helped him set them up) which he uses un clocked to =
lay down his rythm tracks live. note to &nbsp;Randolph: if you get a =
&nbsp;version of &nbsp;Don't Stop Believin' &nbsp;together, I might be =
able pull James Durbin in to sing it :-) &nbsp;I think its a great idea =
to show a popular tune adapted for looping step by step.&nbsp;Also =
&nbsp;looping seems to be the go to tool for many guitarist singer/ =
songwriters &nbsp;like KT Tunstill, &nbsp;and &nbsp;Joseph Arthur, =
&nbsp;to flesh out there solo sound. &nbsp;There is so much of this =
going on among the new crop of singer songwriters its hard to keep track =
of. But so far with the possible &nbsp;exception of&nbsp;<span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: =
13px; ">Eivind Aarset who I haven't seen play live, so I can't verify, =
most of these established acts are not perhaps using the technology in =
the way that Per described, &nbsp;of looper as instrument. And for that =
reason alone I hope you will get a chance to shine a light on &nbsp;the =
extended techniques we have &nbsp;been discussing, using, &nbsp;and =
sharing via web links. &nbsp;</span><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13px; ">I subscribe to Guitar =
Player magazine and I've been watching closely as they weather the =
transition from print to a combo of print and web based zine, and it =
seems like they are puttung a lot more links to extend articles and =
video based interviews and demonstrations in there shrinking print =
magazine, as the expand the web side of it. What this might allow for is =
more liberty in exposing people to the not so mainstream &nbsp;acts who =
are doing exciting things with these extended techniques. &nbsp;I don't =
know how everyone else feels but I'd rather watch a vid of someone I've =
never seen play before do something new and interesting with the tools =
than see an establish player, even one who has been around long enough =
to have the bragging rights to have been "there" since the beginning, do =
something they've been doing with the technology for the last 20-30 =
years. &nbsp;I'd like to see the community grow so I am in favor of you =
mentioning LD as well, As well as the Y2K series and various Looping =
festivals that have occured. When I thinking of cutting edge looping, =
&nbsp;I don't think of Bill Frissel or John Scofield throwing a bit of =
backwards DL-4 loop over a vamp. Don't get me wrong I love both of those =
guys, but I hope you can cast some light on lesser known artists who are =
really inovating, some of which inhabit this =
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> Will the article be in German or English Michael ? 
 
German 
 
-Michael

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> Use of tape loops is probably much older than that. Pierre Schaefer 1940s?

such questions were the reason why I wrote the "birth of loop" article 15
years ago :)
http://www.loopers-delight.com/history/Loophist.html

it mentions Reich as well.

-Michael


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On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 9:20 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wr=
ote:
> I can't verify, most of these established acts are not perhaps using the
> technology in the way that Per described, =C2=A0of looper as instrument.


David Torn is a good example of a guitarist using live looping "as an
instrument".

Per

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> two complementary fundamental ways of using live looping: as instrument
and as loop recorder

how would you explain the difference?

-michael

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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Victor Eijkhout wrote:
> On May 28, 2011, at 7:41 AM, ligeti@alice.it wrote:
>
>> You can found the dawn of loop's universe in the first works of Steve Reich ("it's gonna rain"; "come out"...)
> Use of tape loops is probably much older than that. Pierre Schaefer 1940s?
>
> But it's not live.
>
> Victor.
It is my understanding that the first person, historically, to use tape 
loops compositionally (and as the basis for the composition)
was Terry Riley.   He gave specific tape looping concerts in the 60's 
and was the original inspiration for people like Eno and Fripp.

rick walker

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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, "André Donawa" wrote:
> Here's a clip of Jaco doing his thing.
> An incredible innovator for his time.
> Definitely pushed the boundaries of what bass was supposed to sound like.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvSOquDOfVo
I saw Jaco do this in the early 80's and he was the first person who 
inspired me to loop.
I remembered thinking that, as a drummer/percussionist, there were so 
many things you could
do if you could clone yourself.   At the time, I was blessed to be in a 
band with three and sometimes
four percussionists but this was extremely rare.

I thought I had started live looping in '95 with the Jamman from 
Lexicon, but a fan of our band told me
that he saw me looping at the old pre-earthquake Union Grove store 
looping with my voice and
a kalimba with a pickup and an MXR digital delay that it would be YEARS 
before I could afford
looping music and playing over it. I remember now, spending a couple of 
hours there irritating the owner,
Richard Gellis because I was so into it.......lol......He's now a close 
friend!
Once he did it reminded me of the tape looping we did
by disengaging the erase head on old tube Echoplexes and also of a piece 
I did with Tao Electrical
by looping the phrase "It doesn't mean a fucking thing" on a cheap 
digital delay set on infinite repeat and
playing it so fast that it sounded like an interesting percussive sound 
(without any intelligibility, slowing
it down at the very end of the piece until the last repitition was 
intelligible and then stopping.

Wow, I hadn't thought about that performance in years and years till you 
posted that, Andre!
Thanks for the trip down memory lane.  Long Live Jaco Pastorius!!!!!

rick walker

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On May 28, 2011, at 7:27 AM, Andr=E9 Donawa wrote:

> Hi Michael,
>=20
> Congrats on the magazine scoop.
>=20
> Here's a clip of Jaco doing his thing.
> An incredible innovator for his time.
> Definitely pushed the boundaries of what bass was supposed to sound =
like.
>=20
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DwvSOquDOfVo
>=20
> Andre

I was surprised and pleased to find a section of the DVD version of Joni =
Mitchell's Shadows and Light featuring Jaco looping.

Mark

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Hi,
I'd suggest Andrew Bird (violin and guitar).  Maybe not super famous,
but fairly well known (and quite good).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DwRk2iHkOcNE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DvzMFy-I6K-o&feature=3Drelated

On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 7:09 AM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
> hi all,
>
> The largest German guitar magazine (Gitarre und Bass) has expressed inter=
est
> that I write something for them about livelooping. They have never writte=
n
> anything about it so far and they realize that the topic has become
> interesting enough for many guitarists to be presented in the magazine.
>
> I won't be able to start writing until mid-July because I'm busy with oth=
er
> things now. Because it is such a complex subject, it looks like it might
> turn into a series of articles rather than just one. I haven't really
> started to think about the specifics but they want me to send them a roug=
h
> outline.
>
> I think it would make sense to write about
>
> 1) what livelooping is - a general introduction and overview, including a
> paragraph about the difference between livelooping and using prerecorded
> loops; this introduction would already contain some of what the later
> articles would look at in more detail, such as a bit of history, guitaris=
ts
> and other musicians who use livelooping, different styles and approaches,
> and a look at the technology;
>
> 2) the history of livelooping in some detail (something I already wrote
> about 15 years ago - the article is still online at Looper's Delight);
>
> 3) livelooping styles, approaches and strategies and musical possibilitie=
s,
> with examples of livelooping musicians, ideally guitarists, ideally world
> famous guitarists, including a discography + list of online resources;
>
> 4) something about the technology, hardware/software (enough material for=
 at
> least two articles), maybe including a comparison chart of the tools that
> are currently available;
>
> 5) I could also imagine articles about how to play rock tunes with
> livelooping (something that has recently been discussed here), complete w=
ith
> scores, step-by-step-how-tos, and all. That would be something I would
> possibly leave to one of you (with credits etc. of course) because some o=
f
> you are real specialists on this, and I am not. Please contact me offline=
 if
> you feel you could do that well. =A0Too bad that the magazine doesn't all=
ow
> for included videos, but I could at least point to them - such as the tru=
ly
> glorious cover versions that Randolf Arriola did recently. Randolf do you
> feel you could analyze them and write about them?
>
> So again, I'd be grateful for any suggestions (structure/topics).
>
> There are a gazillion livelooping guitarists but at the moment I really
> wonder which of them are famous enough to be known to the majority of
> magazine readers (apart from Robert Fripp of course, who would certainly =
be
> the #1 example, if you like him or not). Of course there is a lot that I
> could write about us, the crowd of incredibly talented Looper's Delight
> guitarists, and I hope there will be room for that ... but I feel it woul=
d
> be good to introduce the topic in a way that would make it seem not too
> esoteric and more mainstream (as the magazine is a mainstream guitar
> magazine), like the next big thing, or at least like something that many
> guitarists do already, guitarists that the readers can easily identify wi=
th.
> I don't know any world famous guitarists, other than Fripp, employing
> livelooping in an extensive way (please correct me), but many of them mig=
ht
> employ livelooping techniques here and there - I'd be grateful for concre=
te
> examples, such as the Jaco Pastorius solo with Weatherreport, or was it J=
oni
> Mitchell, where he used a delay pedal to create a rhythmical backdrop.
>
> -Michael Peters
>
>

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David Torn is a good example of a guitarist using live looping "as an
instrument".

Per

  Yes thats a good reference for sure, even though the last time i  
talked to him he hadn't been doing that much looping live with his  
band, but that was a couple of years ago, and I'm sure thats subject  
to change at any given moment :-) Torn has   done very creative things  
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..and Riley's was a live performance technique.

The Brian May "two guitars" tape delay effect is on one of 
Queen's early albums, it's just a single repeat iirc.

I've also heard that Gary Moore used some kind of long tape
delay, disabling the erase head on (I'm guessing) a Roland
Space Echo.

..the other proto looper would have to be John Martyn,
keeping chords and rhythm going by playing into a one
bar delay. (first track of "Live at Leeds" album)

Stockhausen certainly had a modified tape deck that
would allow a live tape loop performance (different to Riley's),
..but whether he ever let a guitarist plug in....



andy



andy 

Rick Walker wrote:
> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Victor Eijkhout wrote:
>> On May 28, 2011, at 7:41 AM, ligeti@alice.it wrote:
>>
>>> You can found the dawn of loop's universe in the first works of Steve 
>>> Reich ("it's gonna rain"; "come out"...)
>> Use of tape loops is probably much older than that. Pierre Schaefer 
>> 1940s?
>>
>> But it's not live.
>>
>> Victor.
> It is my understanding that the first person, historically, to use tape 
> loops compositionally (and as the basis for the composition)
> was Terry Riley.   He gave specific tape looping concerts in the 60's 
> and was the original inspiration for people like Eno and Fripp.
> 
> rick walker
> 
> 

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Hi Boris, not many in my list but these were some I came up with so far

Jungle (Santana)
Been Here Once Before (Eagle Eye Cherry)
Chain Of Fools (Aretha Franklin)
Sympathy For The Devil (Rolling Stones)
Superstition (Stevie Wonder)
Cocaine (Clapton)
Teardrops (Womack & Womack)
Love Is The Drug (Roxy Music)


On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 10:35 PM, Boris Plotnikov <ploboris@gmail.com>wrote:

> > Great thread, I'm also interested in making a list like this...
> Do you have some tunes in your list?
>
> --
> Thanks, Boris Plotnikov
>
>

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Hi Boris, not many in my list but these were some I came up with so far<div=
><br></div><div><meta charset=3D"utf-8"><div style=3D"background-color: tra=
nsparent; margin-top: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-rig=
ht: 0px; font-family: Times; font-size: medium; ">
<span id=3D"internal-source-marker_0.012312742648646235" style=3D"font-size=
: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transpar=
ent; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; vertic=
al-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap; ">Jungle (Santana)</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ba=
ckground-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-=
decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap; ">Been H=
ere Once Before (Eagle Eye Cherry)</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ba=
ckground-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-=
decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap; ">Chain =
Of Fools (Aretha Franklin)</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ba=
ckground-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-=
decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap; ">Sympat=
hy For The Devil (Rolling Stones)</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ba=
ckground-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-=
decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap; ">Supers=
tition (Stevie Wonder)</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ba=
ckground-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-=
decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap; ">Cocain=
e (Clapton)</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ba=
ckground-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-=
decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap; ">Teardr=
ops (Womack &amp; Womack)</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ba=
ckground-color: transparent; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-=
decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap; ">Love I=
s The Drug (Roxy Music)</span></div>
<div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 10:35=
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.com">ploboris@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left=
:1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">&gt; Great thread, I&#39;m also interested in making a li=
st like this...<br>
</div>Do you have some tunes in your list?<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
--<br>
Thanks, Boris Plotnikov<br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br></div>

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> Jungle (Santana)
Too long, not sure that it'll be cool, but I've to try.

> Been Here Once Before (Eagle Eye Cherry)
Chorus will not fit RC-2, pitty

> Chain Of Fools (Aretha Franklin)
Yes! Cool tune on one chord!

> Sympathy For The Devil (Rolling Stones)
Some minor chord progression changes, Have to try it.

> Superstition (Stevie Wonder)
Long one chord vamp, but then bridge. Theoreticaly it's possible to
play bridge with looper stopped.

> Cocaine (Clapton)
Again bridge, need to stop loop for bridge.

> Teardrops (Womack & Womack)
Too pop/r'n'b for my taste.

> Love Is The Drug (Roxy Music)
Yes, I have to try working on this tune, but again bridge. I have to
get RC-50 for such tunes.

I've forget best simple hit "Chameleon" be Herbie Hancock
-- 
Thanks, Boris Plotnikov

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Michael Peters wrote:
>> two complementary fundamental ways of using live looping: as instrument
> and as loop recorder
> 
> how would you explain the difference?

One is emulating what would commonly be done in a multi-track recording studio.

The other is an interaction with technology resulting in music that
would not have arisen otherwise.

how's that?
William Walker wrote:
> Hi Michael, sounds like you have you hands full:-) 
>   If i might add my own two cents. 

I'm very much with Bill on this one.
...that makes 4c

Giving further column inches to the already famous
may be what's required, but it doesn't promote an
understanding of of the possibilities of live looping.

afaik there isn't any guitarist who's well known and 
appreciated "as a live looper".

Anyway, more importantly, congrats on being given the assignment,
great to see that the article's going to be written
by someone who actually knows about the subject...
and hope it becomes a series.


andy



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Congrats, Michael.
This is a good chance for "looping" (as a concept or a technique), to get
some exposition.

2011/5/29 andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>

> ..and Riley's was a live performance technique.
>

This is a third perspective about what looping is:
1. as an instrument
2. as a sampler
3. as a "compositional/performative" method

This approach is common to Rilley, Reich, Glen Branca and lot of other
minimalism pioneers.

Glen Branca wrote a lot of "looped" music for electric guitars

Not a living mainstream guitarist..., but La Monte Young deserve to be
quoted in your "first chapter" IMO, as he used tape delay in 1963,
manipulating, with Riley, Chet Baker playing trumpet.

Adrian Belew - maybe a guitarist "not for the masses" - had played with ton=
s
of rock guru (zappa, talking heads, paul simon...), as you know, and is
nowadays using Mobius made by our J. Larson (good to quote LD). Some new
vids were recently posted to the list or on FB.

Just a reminder..I'm sure you just thought about it: I'd suggest to quote
- Matthias and Jeff as the "master creators" of today looping hw/sw
- Andr=E9 La Fosse need to be mentioned as he has really found a new sound
thanks to the echoplex
- ..yes...Bill also deserves to be quoted.

I can't think of new "mainstream" artists using live looping in an extensiv=
e
way: Arve Henriksen (Supersilent, David Sylvian) is a young trumpeter using
a DL4 is the one I can think of...

-fabio
www.eterogeneo.com



> Rick Walker wrote:
>
>> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Victor Eijkhout wrote:
>>
>>> On May 28, 2011, at 7:41 AM, ligeti@alice.it wrote:
>>>
>>>  You can found the dawn of loop's universe in the first works of Steve
>>>> Reich ("it's gonna rain"; "come out"...)
>>>>
>>> Use of tape loops is probably much older than that. Pierre Schaefer
>>> 1940s?
>>>
>>> But it's not live.
>>>
>>> Victor.
>>>
>> It is my understanding that the first person, historically, to use tape
>> loops compositionally (and as the basis for the composition)
>> was Terry Riley.   He gave specific tape looping concerts in the 60's an=
d
>> was the original inspiration for people like Eno and Fripp.
>>
>> rick walker
>>
>>
>>
>

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Congrats, Michael.<div>This is a good chance for &quot;looping&quot; (as a =
concept or a technique), to get some exposition.</div><div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">2011/5/29 andy butler <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk">akbutler@tiscali.co.uk</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">..and Riley&#39;s was a live performance te=
chnique.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>This is a third perspective ab=
out what looping is:</div>
<div>1. as an instrument</div><div>2. as a sampler</div><div>3. as a &quot;=
compositional/performative&quot; method</div><div><br></div><div>This appro=
ach is common to Rilley, Reich, Glen Branca and lot of other minimalism pio=
neers.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Glen Branca wrote a lot of &quot;looped&quot; music for=
 electric guitars</div><div><br></div><div>Not a living mainstream guitaris=
t..., but La Monte Young deserve to be quoted in your &quot;first chapter&q=
uot; IMO, as he used tape delay in 1963, manipulating, with Riley, Chet Bak=
er playing trumpet.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Adrian Belew - maybe a guitarist &quot;not for the mass=
es&quot; - had played with tons of rock guru (zappa, talking heads, paul si=
mon...), as you know, and is nowadays using Mobius made by our J. Larson (g=
ood to quote LD). Some new vids were recently posted to the list or on FB.<=
/div>
<div><br></div><div>Just a reminder..I&#39;m sure you just thought about it=
:=A0I&#39;d suggest to quote</div><div>- Matthias and Jeff as the &quot;mas=
ter creators&quot; of today looping hw/sw</div><div>- Andr=E9 La Fosse need=
 to be mentioned as he has really found a new sound thanks to the echoplex<=
/div>
<div>- ..yes...Bill also deserves to be quoted.=A0</div><div><br></div><div=
>I can&#39;t think of new &quot;mainstream&quot; artists using live looping=
 in an extensive way: Arve Henriksen (Supersilent, David Sylvian) is a youn=
g trumpeter using a DL4 is the one I can think of...</div>
<div><br></div><div>-fabio</div><div><a href=3D"http://www.eterogeneo.com">=
www.eterogeneo.com</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex;">
<font color=3D"#888888"><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#000000">=
<br></font></font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">
Rick Walker wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Victor Eijkhout wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
On May 28, 2011, at 7:41 AM, <a href=3D"mailto:ligeti@alice.it" target=3D"_=
blank">ligeti@alice.it</a> wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
You can found the dawn of loop&#39;s universe in the first works of Steve R=
eich (&quot;it&#39;s gonna rain&quot;; &quot;come out&quot;...)<br>
</blockquote>
Use of tape loops is probably much older than that. Pierre Schaefer 1940s?<=
br>
<br>
But it&#39;s not live.<br>
<br>
Victor.<br>
</blockquote>
It is my understanding that the first person, historically, to use tape loo=
ps compositionally (and as the basis for the composition)<br>
was Terry Riley. =A0 He gave specific tape looping concerts in the 60&#39;s=
 and was the original inspiration for people like Eno and Fripp.<br>
<br>
rick walker<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>

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Run Through The Jungle (CCR)
Within You, Without You (Beatles)


-----Original Message----- 
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> Jungle (Santana)
Too long, not sure that it'll be cool, but I've to try.

> Been Here Once Before (Eagle Eye Cherry)
Chorus will not fit RC-2, pitty

> Chain Of Fools (Aretha Franklin)
Yes! Cool tune on one chord!

> Sympathy For The Devil (Rolling Stones)
Some minor chord progression changes, Have to try it.

> Superstition (Stevie Wonder)
Long one chord vamp, but then bridge. Theoreticaly it's possible to
play bridge with looper stopped.

> Cocaine (Clapton)
Again bridge, need to stop loop for bridge.

> Teardrops (Womack & Womack)
Too pop/r'n'b for my taste.

> Love Is The Drug (Roxy Music)
Yes, I have to try working on this tune, but again bridge. I have to
get RC-50 for such tunes.

I've forget best simple hit "Chameleon" be Herbie Hancock
-- 
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HI Boris
You write:
> Superstition (Stevie Wonder)
Long one chord vamp, but then bridge. Theoreticaly it's possible to
play bridge with looper stopped.

I often use undo/replace/overdub functions to create different chordal sections and toggle twixt them.

D
On May 29, 2011, at 1:56 AM, Boris Plotnikov wrote:

>> Superstition (Stevie Wonder)
> Long one chord vamp, but then bridge. Theoreticaly it's possible to
> play bridge with looper stopped.
> 
>> Cocaine (Clapton)
> Again bridge, need to stop loop for bridge.

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guitar player had a decent article a few yrs ago that featured a few folks
we all know here (fripp, torn, lafosse, amy x...etc)

i'm not sure where to start w/ nowadays.

there are so many tools available for folks to use.

i would disagree w/ the frisell not being "innovative". his disfarmer disc
and his live double disc from a few yrs ago had some great stuff on there.
and when i saw him live 2 yrs ago, his little 2 min looping thing had people
scratching their heads-it was a great noisefest--which i could handle
listening to a whole album worth of matieral-just don't think most of his
fans would do it.

david torn in his recent torn/king gig in nyc-there is a lot of looping in
the 25 min vid clip, granted he doesn't play out a lot, since i think his
world is creating music for soundtracks/tv/movies...

nels cline-in that dvd he did w/ the visual artist (can't remember
names)-whew, he does some great looping in that...but his main gig that most
would know him is playing w/ wilco--which obviously gets his name out...

but most of these folks are "instrumental"-i know there are bands out there
who do this stuff as well as singer/songwriters...most of whom i do not
know. (kt kunstall, howie day, etc)

and from the vid someone posted a few days ago....adrian belew does stuff
too....
good luck w/ it...
s---
www.soundclick.com/hsacnostetn

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<div>guitar player had a decent article a few yrs ago that featured a few f=
olks we all know here (fripp, torn, lafosse, amy x...etc)</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>i&#39;m not sure where to start w/ nowadays.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>there are so many tools available for folks to use.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>i would disagree w/ the frisell not being &quot;innovative&quot;. his =
disfarmer disc and his live double disc from a few yrs ago had some great s=
tuff on there. and when i saw him live 2 yrs ago, his little 2 min looping =
thing had people scratching their heads-it was a great noisefest--which=A0i=
 could handle listening to a whole album worth of matieral-just don&#39;t t=
hink most of his fans would do it.</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>david torn in his recent torn/king gig in nyc-there is a lot of loopin=
g in the 25 min vid clip, granted he doesn&#39;t play out a lot, since i th=
ink his world is creating music for soundtracks/tv/movies...</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>nels cline-in that dvd he did w/ the visual artist (can&#39;t remember=
 names)-whew, he does some great looping in that...but his main gig that mo=
st would know him is playing w/ wilco--which obviously gets his name out...=
</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>but most of these folks are &quot;instrumental&quot;-i know there are =
bands out there who do this stuff as well as singer/songwriters...most of w=
hom i do not know. (kt kunstall, howie day, etc)</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>and from the vid someone posted a few days ago....adrian belew does st=
uff too....</div>
<div>good luck w/ it...</div>
<div>s---</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.soundclick.com/hsacnostetn">www.soundclick.com/h=
sacnostetn</a></div>

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I wanted to announce that the global live NinJam collective known as
Digitsignal, that Jeff [Duke], Steve [Moyes] and I from the LD community ar=
e
part of has just released a new body of work as a 'pay what you want'
Bandcamp digital distribution.

The dd is 11 trax titled *Cold Night Moonlight Wolf Cubs Stray* was recorde=
d
this past February, intended to be an RPM Challenge release but I was
juggling too many things and held us up.  It's a beautiful body of work and
we're very proud to have it officially out.

The URL is digitsignal.bandcamp.com.  There is looping on it and clearly
'live' by the way.

Digitisignal is Peter Th=F6rn (SW), Jeff Duke (US), Steve Moyes (England), =
Ray
Istorico (US) and Jim Goodin (US).

Thanks folks


Jim
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*From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin =
&
Peter Th=F6rn.  Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.
jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com

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I wanted to announce that the global live NinJam collective known as Digits=
ignal, that Jeff [Duke], Steve [Moyes] and I from the LD community are part=
 of has just released a new body of work as a &#39;pay what you want&#39; B=
andcamp digital distribution.<div>
<br></div><div>The dd is 11 trax titled <i>Cold Night Moonlight Wolf Cubs S=
tray</i> was recorded this past February, intended to be an RPM Challenge r=
elease but I was juggling too many things and held us up. =A0It&#39;s a bea=
utiful body of work and we&#39;re very proud to have it officially out.</di=
v>
<div><br></div><div>The URL is=A0<a href=3D"http://digitsignal.bandcamp.com=
">digitsignal.bandcamp.com</a>. =A0There is looping on it and clearly &#39;=
live&#39; by the way.</div><div><br></div><div>Digitisignal is Peter Th=F6r=
n (SW), Jeff Duke (US), Steve Moyes (England), Ray Istorico (US) and Jim Go=
odin (US).</div>
<div><br></div><div>Thanks folks</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Ji=
m<br>-- <br><i>From Brooklyn To Glindran</i>, a new World/Free Jazz recordi=
ng by Jim Goodin &amp; Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds<br>from the sale of this =
CD will benefit JDRF International.=A0 <a href=3D"http://jimgoodinpeterthor=
n.bandcamp.com" target=3D"_blank">jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com</a>.<br>
<br><a href=3D"http://woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com" target=3D"_blank">woo=
dandwiremusic.wordpress.com</a><br>
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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Scott Hansen wrote:
> nels cline-in that dvd he did w/ the visual artist (can't remember 
> names)-whew, he does some great looping in that...but his main gig 
> that most would know him is playing w/ wilco--which obviously gets his 
> name out...
I would say that Nels' highest profile gig is with Wilco.

I recently saw him with the Nels Cline Singers (with Scott Amendola on 
drums/percussion/loops) and Yukio Honda on keyboards.
It was one of the bettter concerts I've ever seen and he had slabs of 
live looping woven into the performance as did Scott Amendola.

I would imagine that the Nels Cline Singers is as important a 'main' gig 
to him as his Wilco gig is, despite the fact that it
obviously earns him a lot less money.    It was a shame that it was not 
better attended (his gig in Felton, California, close to Santa Cruz).

rick walker

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Scott Hansen wrote:
 
> i would disagree w/ the frisell not being "innovative". his disfarmer 
> disc and his live double disc from a few yrs ago had some great stuff on 
> there. and when i saw him live 2 yrs ago, his little 2 min looping thing 
> had people scratching their heads-it was a great noisefest-

...but there's nothing in what you say here that tells me
Frissel *is* innovative as a looper or even that he was once.


Not saying that he isn't, I'm not that familiar with his work.
...but to make a point surely it's desirable to list his
innovations.

andy

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Hi Boris,

That's right for most of those I either stop loop and do the bridge/chorus
unaccompanied or undo/redo the harmonic content of the loop. Or if I'm using
Ableton I sometimes do actually build 2 loops (i.e. use the "intro" to build
the basic backing for the B section).

Cheers

On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Boris Plotnikov <ploboris@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Jungle (Santana)
> Too long, not sure that it'll be cool, but I've to try.
>
> > Been Here Once Before (Eagle Eye Cherry)
> Chorus will not fit RC-2, pitty
>
> > Chain Of Fools (Aretha Franklin)
> Yes! Cool tune on one chord!
>
> > Sympathy For The Devil (Rolling Stones)
> Some minor chord progression changes, Have to try it.
>
> > Superstition (Stevie Wonder)
> Long one chord vamp, but then bridge. Theoreticaly it's possible to
> play bridge with looper stopped.
>
> > Cocaine (Clapton)
> Again bridge, need to stop loop for bridge.
>
> > Teardrops (Womack & Womack)
> Too pop/r'n'b for my taste.
>
> > Love Is The Drug (Roxy Music)
> Yes, I have to try working on this tune, but again bridge. I have to
> get RC-50 for such tunes.
>
> I've forget best simple hit "Chameleon" be Herbie Hancock
> --
> Thanks, Boris Plotnikov
>
>

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Hi Boris,<div><br></div><div>That&#39;s right for most of those I either st=
op loop and do the bridge/chorus unaccompanied or undo/redo the harmonic co=
ntent of the loop. Or if I&#39;m using Ableton I sometimes do actually buil=
d 2 loops (i.e. use the &quot;intro&quot; to build the basic backing for th=
e B section).</div>
<div><br></div><div>Cheers<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, May 29=
, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Boris Plotnikov <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
ploboris@gmail.com">ploboris@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc soli=
d;padding-left:1ex;">
&gt; Jungle (Santana)<br>
Too long, not sure that it&#39;ll be cool, but I&#39;ve to try.<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
&gt; Been Here Once Before (Eagle Eye Cherry)<br>
</div>Chorus will not fit RC-2, pitty<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
&gt; Chain Of Fools (Aretha Franklin)<br>
</div>Yes! Cool tune on one chord!<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
&gt; Sympathy For The Devil (Rolling Stones)<br>
</div>Some minor chord progression changes, Have to try it.<br>
<br>
&gt; Superstition (Stevie Wonder)<br>
Long one chord vamp, but then bridge. Theoreticaly it&#39;s possible to<br>
play bridge with looper stopped.<br>
<br>
&gt; Cocaine (Clapton)<br>
Again bridge, need to stop loop for bridge.<br>
<br>
&gt; Teardrops (Womack &amp; Womack)<br>
Too pop/r&#39;n&#39;b for my taste.<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
&gt; Love Is The Drug (Roxy Music)<br>
</div>Yes, I have to try working on this tune, but again bridge. I have to<=
br>
get RC-50 for such tunes.<br>
<br>
I&#39;ve forget best simple hit &quot;Chameleon&quot; be Herbie Hancock<br>
<font color=3D"#888888">--<br>
Thanks, Boris Plotnikov<br>
<br>
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Fellow looping contributors...

 

Has anyone heard of an updated status on our CD contributions? It's been a
year or so since we've all submitted the tunes, paid, etc.

 

Just putting feelers out...

 

Regards,

 

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paid, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Awesome conversation all around! I personally stumbled upon the idea of
looping via Phish in 1997. Trey Anastasio uses a Boomerang on stage to this
day, but for 97-04 he often created extremely interesting, non tempo synced
loops as an extra layer, and as it's own instrument many times. He also
often times uses long delays to create loops as layers and pads for ambient
jams:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D34P9C5vTLkI

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D34P9C5vTLkI>Just thought that was a worth=
y
addition to the mix, as he is borderline famous, and not famous, as well as
borderline using the loop as a simple pad, and using it as it's own creativ=
e
instrument.

On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 2:41 AM, Fabio_A <eterogenus@gmail.com> wrote:

> Congrats, Michael.
> This is a good chance for "looping" (as a concept or a technique), to get
> some exposition.
>
> 2011/5/29 andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
>
>> ..and Riley's was a live performance technique.
>>
>
> This is a third perspective about what looping is:
> 1. as an instrument
> 2. as a sampler
> 3. as a "compositional/performative" method
>
> This approach is common to Rilley, Reich, Glen Branca and lot of other
> minimalism pioneers.
>
> Glen Branca wrote a lot of "looped" music for electric guitars
>
> Not a living mainstream guitarist..., but La Monte Young deserve to be
> quoted in your "first chapter" IMO, as he used tape delay in 1963,
> manipulating, with Riley, Chet Baker playing trumpet.
>
> Adrian Belew - maybe a guitarist "not for the masses" - had played with
> tons of rock guru (zappa, talking heads, paul simon...), as you know, and=
 is
> nowadays using Mobius made by our J. Larson (good to quote LD). Some new
> vids were recently posted to the list or on FB.
>
> Just a reminder..I'm sure you just thought about it: I'd suggest to quote
> - Matthias and Jeff as the "master creators" of today looping hw/sw
> - Andr=E9 La Fosse need to be mentioned as he has really found a new soun=
d
> thanks to the echoplex
> - ..yes...Bill also deserves to be quoted.
>
> I can't think of new "mainstream" artists using live looping in an
> extensive way: Arve Henriksen (Supersilent, David Sylvian) is a young
> trumpeter using a DL4 is the one I can think of...
>
> -fabio
> www.eterogeneo.com
>
>
>
>> Rick Walker wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Victor Eijkhout wrote:
>>>
>>>> On May 28, 2011, at 7:41 AM, ligeti@alice.it wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  You can found the dawn of loop's universe in the first works of Steve
>>>>> Reich ("it's gonna rain"; "come out"...)
>>>>>
>>>> Use of tape loops is probably much older than that. Pierre Schaefer
>>>> 1940s?
>>>>
>>>> But it's not live.
>>>>
>>>> Victor.
>>>>
>>> It is my understanding that the first person, historically, to use tape
>>> loops compositionally (and as the basis for the composition)
>>> was Terry Riley.   He gave specific tape looping concerts in the 60's a=
nd
>>> was the original inspiration for people like Eno and Fripp.
>>>
>>> rick walker
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>


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Awesome conversation all around! I personally stumbled upon the idea of loo=
ping via Phish in 1997. Trey Anastasio uses a Boomerang on stage to this da=
y, but for 97-04 he often created extremely interesting, non tempo synced l=
oops as an extra layer, and as it&#39;s own instrument many times. He also =
often times uses long delays to create loops as layers and pads for ambient=
 jams:<div>
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D34P9C5vTLkI">http://www.youtube=
.com/watch?v=3D34P9C5vTLkI</a></div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://w=
ww.youtube.com/watch?v=3D34P9C5vTLkI"></a>Just thought that was a worthy ad=
dition to the mix, as he is borderline famous, and not famous, as well as b=
orderline using the loop as a simple pad, and using it as it&#39;s own crea=
tive instrument.<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 2:41 AM, Fabio_A <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eterogenus@gmail.com">eterogenus@gmail=
.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Congrats, Michael.<div>This is a good chance for &quot;looping&quot; (as a =
concept or a technique), to get some exposition.</div><div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"im">2011/5/29 andy butler <span dir=3D"ltr">=
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">akbutler@ti=
scali.co.uk</a>&gt;</span><br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">..and Riley&#39;s was a live performance tec=
hnique.<br></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>This is a third perspecti=
ve about what looping is:</div>

<div>1. as an instrument</div><div>2. as a sampler</div><div>3. as a &quot;=
compositional/performative&quot; method</div><div><br></div><div>This appro=
ach is common to Rilley, Reich, Glen Branca and lot of other minimalism pio=
neers.</div>

<div><br></div><div>Glen Branca wrote a lot of &quot;looped&quot; music for=
 electric guitars</div><div><br></div><div>Not a living mainstream guitaris=
t..., but La Monte Young deserve to be quoted in your &quot;first chapter&q=
uot; IMO, as he used tape delay in 1963, manipulating, with Riley, Chet Bak=
er playing trumpet.</div>

<div><br></div><div>Adrian Belew - maybe a guitarist &quot;not for the mass=
es&quot; - had played with tons of rock guru (zappa, talking heads, paul si=
mon...), as you know, and is nowadays using Mobius made by our J. Larson (g=
ood to quote LD). Some new vids were recently posted to the list or on FB.<=
/div>

<div><br></div><div>Just a reminder..I&#39;m sure you just thought about it=
:=A0I&#39;d suggest to quote</div><div>- Matthias and Jeff as the &quot;mas=
ter creators&quot; of today looping hw/sw</div><div>- Andr=E9 La Fosse need=
 to be mentioned as he has really found a new sound thanks to the echoplex<=
/div>

<div>- ..yes...Bill also deserves to be quoted.=A0</div><div><br></div><div=
>I can&#39;t think of new &quot;mainstream&quot; artists using live looping=
 in an extensive way: Arve Henriksen (Supersilent, David Sylvian) is a youn=
g trumpeter using a DL4 is the one I can think of...</div>

<div><br></div><div>-fabio</div><div><a href=3D"http://www.eterogeneo.com" =
target=3D"_blank">www.eterogeneo.com</a></div><div class=3D"im"><div><br></=
div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<font color=3D"#888888"><font color=3D"#000000"><br></font></font><div><div=
></div><div>
Rick Walker wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Victor Eijkhout wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
On May 28, 2011, at 7:41 AM, <a href=3D"mailto:ligeti@alice.it" target=3D"_=
blank">ligeti@alice.it</a> wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
You can found the dawn of loop&#39;s universe in the first works of Steve R=
eich (&quot;it&#39;s gonna rain&quot;; &quot;come out&quot;...)<br>
</blockquote>
Use of tape loops is probably much older than that. Pierre Schaefer 1940s?<=
br>
<br>
But it&#39;s not live.<br>
<br>
Victor.<br>
</blockquote>
It is my understanding that the first person, historically, to use tape loo=
ps compositionally (and as the basis for the composition)<br>
was Terry Riley. =A0 He gave specific tape looping concerts in the 60&#39;s=
 and was the original inspiration for people like Eno and Fripp.<br>
<br>
rick walker<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div></div><br></div>
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ook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239" target=3D"_blank">http://www.=
facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239</a><div>
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/user/RafasOneManBand" target=3D"_blank">h=
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What's a good choice for affordable ear monitor system that aren't =
complete shit, so they at least get the job done. I think I need to move =
on from the big ass cans on my head. They sound great and work great for =
tracking but they nearly fall off when I'm moving around a lot.

What do you guys use for your mailing list? Would it be fine for me to =
send out upcoming shows emails on my own and just stick all the =
addresses in the Bcc field while my numbers are low......or is there =
some great advantage I don't know about for using mail chimp or fan =
bridge. I checked out those sites but I'm not completely sure I =
understand the big picture with their services.

Thank you for sharing your experience and wisdom :)
Todd Matthews=

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I love FLStudio (formerly known as Fruity Loops) on the PC side of 
things but I have yet to discover an equivalent
sample sequencer (drum machine styled) for OS X.

Does anyone know of a good free or shareware drum machine that supports 
user samples?

As far as that goes,  does anyone know of a good payware version?

thanks,

Rick Walker

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I use Mail Chimp, and I love it.

it's a recent move from Vertical Response.  great tracking,  good, easy,
design,  great mail list management.

as far as ear monitoring I go wireless,  but easiest and most inexpensive
are a pair of earbuds out your output 7-8 of the RME.  As you know, you can
easily control your levels that way as well.  though i sometimes control
those levels through Ableton itself.

t.

On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote=
:

> What's a good choice for affordable ear monitor system that aren't comple=
te
> shit, so they at least get the job done. I think I need to move on from t=
he
> big ass cans on my head. They sound great and work great for tracking but
> they nearly fall off when I'm moving around a lot.
>
> What do you guys use for your mailing list? Would it be fine for me to se=
nd
> out upcoming shows emails on my own and just stick all the addresses in t=
he
> Bcc field while my numbers are low......or is there some great advantage =
I
> don't know about for using mail chimp or fan bridge. I checked out those
> sites but I'm not completely sure I understand the big picture with their
> services.
>
> Thank you for sharing your experience and wisdom :)
> Todd Matthews
>



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=95 The most recent newsletter is
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e967bfbd9c&e=3D03bf48e08a>
=95 May 24th at The Guggenheim Museum, May 25th at The Stone, NYC
=95 Outerborough, Todd Reynolds' solo double CD is now available wherever
music is sold. Check it out on the INNOVA Artists
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ove from Vertical Response. =A0great tracking, =A0good, easy, design, =A0gr=
eat mail list management.=A0</div><div><br></div><div>as far as ear monitor=
ing I go wireless, =A0but easiest and most inexpensive are a pair of earbud=
s out your output 7-8 of the RME. =A0As you know, you can easily control yo=
ur levels that way as well. =A0though i sometimes control those levels thro=
ugh Ableton itself.=A0</div>

<div><br></div><div>t.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 30, =
2011 at 1:42 PM, Todd Matthews <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gtma=
tthews@gmail.com">gtmatthews@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote=
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d;padding-left:1ex;">

What&#39;s a good choice for affordable ear monitor system that aren&#39;t =
complete shit, so they at least get the job done. I think I need to move on=
 from the big ass cans on my head. They sound great and work great for trac=
king but they nearly fall off when I&#39;m moving around a lot.<br>


<br>
What do you guys use for your mailing list? Would it be fine for me to send=
 out upcoming shows emails on my own and just stick all the addresses in th=
e Bcc field while my numbers are low......or is there some great advantage =
I don&#39;t know about for using mail chimp or fan bridge. I checked out th=
ose sites but I&#39;m not completely sure I understand the big picture with=
 their services.<br>


<br>
Thank you for sharing your experience and wisdom :)<br>
<font color=3D"#888888">Todd Matthews<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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b9b14c54b82542584810ea00c&amp;id=3De967bfbd9c&amp;e=3D03bf48e08a" target=3D=
"_blank">The most recent newsletter is here.</a><div>

=95 May 24th at The Guggenheim Museum, May 25th at The Stone, NYC<br><div>=
=95=A0Outerborough, Todd Reynolds&#39; solo double CD is now available wher=
ever music is sold. <a href=3D"http://innova.mu/artist1.asp?skuID=3D449" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">Check it out on the INNOVA Artists Page</a>.<div>

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blank">http://toddreynolds.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://twitter.com/digifid=
dler" target=3D"_blank">http://twitter.com/digifiddler</a><br>

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yspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://blog.toddreynolds.com=
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> i would disagree w/ the frisell not being "innovative". his  
> disfarmer disc and his live double disc from a few yrs ago had some  
> great stuff on there. and when i saw him live 2 yrs ago, his little  
> 2 min looping thing had people scratching their heads-it was a great  
> noisefest-

  Let me clarify, I think Bill Frissell is a tremendously innovative  
musician , and having seem him play since the first time I caught  him  
with Tiger's Baku at Pooh's Pub in Boston in 1978 and seen him   
recently as well, his looping moments are always musical and  
brilliant. I'm talking about the extended techniques that the EDP and  
a bit later the Electrix repeater offered, and that  are available in  
one form or another along with a bunch of other cool editing features  
on the Looperlative  and various software platforms . But maybe its  
splitting hairs a bit, but  a guy like David Torn really has employed  
those techniques whereas Frissell has somewhat scratched the surface.  
Someone mentioned Andre Lafosse,  who was very innovative in his self  
described turntablist guitar approach, I found more inspiration  
watching him  in the couple of gigs we shared than  any of the more  
established names mentioned thus far, and that goes  for several  
musicians on this list as well,  guitarists and non guitarists alike.
Bill

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Both Cubase and Logic offers an editing windows ("hyper editor", "drum
editor") that work in a similar way to FL Studio; you click inside a
grid to create a note and each note is shown as a staple where the
height corresponds how hard the hit is ("velocity"). Ableton Live can
also be used "drum machine style". A rudimentary sampler comes with
Live but if you really want to tweak your own sounds you need to pay
extra for buying their sampler Sampler (it's named "Sampler").

It's not "shareware", but if you mean software "drum machine" I would
guess that the most bang for the buck comes with iDrum
http://izotope.com/products/audio/idrum/
(you know, the same guys that sell Stutter Edit, that you like so
much). iDrum will let you drive the sampler/patter sequencer with your
own samples. It is not a DAW, just a drum machine workstation in
software.

There is a really good drum sampler/synth with its own pattern based
sequencer inside Logic; it's called UltraBeat.

Just the other day Rob Papen released a similar software module called Punc=
h:
http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/05/rob-papen-punch-samplesynth-drums-now=
-shipping-software-drum-machine-scene-looking-hot/?utm_source=3Dfeedburner&=
utm_medium=3Dfeed&utm_campaign=3DFeed%3A+createdigitalmusic+%28createdigita=
lmusic.com%29&utm_content=3DBloglines

And Fxpansion has Geist that also has its own effect processing engine
that can do some cool stuff:
http://www.fxpansion.com/index.php?page=3D120&tab=3D313

Last time I looked Geist was quite expensive, but it is a top quality
production tool targeting guys that are very serious with beat making
and want to get the best out there and spend time getting really good
with it. I think you should look at Geist+laptop+pads an alternative
to an AKAI MPC.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub



On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
> I love FLStudio (formerly known as Fruity Loops) on the PC side of things
> but I have yet to discover an equivalent
> sample sequencer (drum machine styled) for OS X.
>
> Does anyone know of a good free or shareware drum machine that supports u=
ser
> samples?
>
> As far as that goes, =C2=A0does anyone know of a good payware version?
>
> thanks,
>
> Rick Walker
>
>

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A rudimentary sampler comes with
> Live but if you really want to tweak your own sounds you need to pay
> extra for buying their sampler Sampler (it's named "Sampler").

isnt it called "simpler" Per?

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> As far as that goes, =A0does anyone know of a good payware version?
>
> thanks,
>
> Rick Walker


I just  love Native Instruments battery for its simplicity,in fact im
selling mine because i recently bought the whole NI Komperte 7 and is
included in the package,is also loaded with kits and you can create
your won with your own samples

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DO6my6t08-Z4

now if u want the cream of the crop,hardware,software
not exactly cheap but this thing seems killer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQYVQR-YdVJI

cheers
Luis

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> A rudimentary sampler comes with
>> Live but if you really want to tweak your own sounds you need to pay
>> extra for buying their sampler Sampler (it's named "Sampler").
>
> isnt it called "simpler" Per?
>


No. "Simpler" is the rudimentary sampler that comes bundled with Live.
The product "Sampler" is a real sampler for Live that you have to buy
as an add-on. "Sampler" is more advanced than "Simpler".

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub

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And completely off-topic, Andre Lafosse has THE TONE.

:-)

-Petri-

2011/5/30 William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com>

> i would disagree w/ the frisell not being "innovative". his disfarmer disc
>> and his live double disc from a few yrs ago had some great stuff on there.
>> and when i saw him live 2 yrs ago, his little 2 min looping thing had people
>> scratching their heads-it was a great noisefest-
>>
>
>  Let me clarify, I think Bill Frissell is a tremendously innovative
> musician , and having seem him play since the first time I caught  him with
> Tiger's Baku at Pooh's Pub in Boston in 1978 and seen him  recently as well,
> his looping moments are always musical and brilliant. I'm talking about the
> extended techniques that the EDP and a bit later the Electrix repeater
> offered, and that  are available in one form or another along with a bunch
> of other cool editing features on the Looperlative  and various software
> platforms . But maybe its splitting hairs a bit, but  a guy like David Torn
> really has employed those techniques whereas Frissell has somewhat scratched
> the surface. Someone mentioned Andre Lafosse,  who was very innovative in
> his self described turntablist guitar approach, I found more inspiration
> watching him  in the couple of gigs we shared than  any of the more
> established names mentioned thus far, and that goes  for several musicians
> on this list as well,  guitarists and non guitarists alike.
> Bill
>
>


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And completely off-topic, Andre Lafosse has THE TONE.<br><br>:-)<br><br>-Pe=
tri-<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/5/30 William Walker <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:billwalker@baymoon.com">billwalker@baymoon.c=
om</a>&gt;</span><br>
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er-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">

i would disagree w/ the frisell not being &quot;innovative&quot;. his disfa=
rmer disc and his live double disc from a few yrs ago had some great stuff =
on there. and when i saw him live 2 yrs ago, his little 2 min looping thing=
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</blockquote>
<br></div>
=A0Let me clarify, I think Bill Frissell is a tremendously innovative music=
ian , and having seem him play since the first time I caught =A0him with Ti=
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 as well, his looping moments are always musical and brilliant. I&#39;m tal=
king about the extended techniques that the EDP and a bit later the Electri=
x repeater offered, and that =A0are available in one form or another along =
with a bunch of other cool editing features on the Looperlative =A0and vari=
ous software platforms . But maybe its splitting hairs a bit, but =A0a guy =
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omewhat scratched the surface. Someone mentioned Andre Lafosse, =A0who was =
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veral musicians on this list as well, =A0guitarists and non guitarists alik=
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Bill<br>
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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote:
> Not saying that he isn't, I'm not that familiar with his work.
> ...but to make a point surely it's desirable to list his
> innovations.
>
> andy 
That is a hard one to put into words,  Andy.
I think he is more innovative, musically speaking than technologically 
speaking.

In other words, someone like Andre LaFosse has been innovative by using 
the EDP in ways
that had not been done before,   whereas,   every time I"ve seen Bill 
playing in a looping context,
he makes music I've never heard before.    I think of him as incredibly 
innovative and exceptionally
creative and he's one of the rare musicians in the world who just 
doesn't seem to repeat himself much.

rick walker

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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Todd Matthews wrote:
> What's a good choice for affordable ear monitor system that aren't complete shit, so they at least get the job done. I think I need to move on from the big ass cans on my head. They sound great and work great for tracking but they nearly fall off when I'm moving around a lot.
>
> What do you guys use for your mailing list? Would it be fine for me to send out upcoming shows emails on my own and just stick all the addresses in the Bcc field while my numbers are low......or is there some great advantage I don't know about for using mail chimp or fan bridge. I checked out those sites but I'm not completely sure I understand the big picture with their services.
>
> Thank you for sharing your experience and wisdom :)
> Todd Matthews
   I use the Sony system that goes for around $400=$500 and I have a 
suggestion that will save you a lot of money.
But the best sound ear plugs you can buy and DON'T buy the Sony's that 
they recommend.    I've heard that JVC has
very good iPod styled earphones for around $75 but  I don't know the 
model.     Any full range earphones will do, however,
and the fidelity will blow your mind compared to typical in house 
monitor systems.

Also,   I finally brokedown and started using Facebook to send out 
announcements,  because my fan list became bigger there than
my email list and I don't have to maintain it.      Used to use MySpace 
but it became so inundated with music spam that everyone stopped
using it as Facebook took over.      Soon, the same thing will happen to 
FaceBook, I'm sure.

Also, in using Outlook Express on a PC for e-mail lists,   I just 
discovered that I could send out a list as long as it's under 45 people,
So I just started alphabetizing my lists in groups of 45 or less.     
You make a group of 45 people and then I just number them
and then send them out about 7 lists at a time.........if one name gets 
typed wrong, however,  it will stop the whole list and you have
to go find it, so it's a bit of a pain in the ass to maintain.

I migrated my lists to Thunderbird on my MacBook Pro but it doesn't seem 
to work on that program, unfortunately.

best of luck,
rick walker

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No kidding eh :) Guess he's not active on this list anymore... love to =
see him play sometime but it seems he is LA bound... :)



On May 30, 2011, at 3:31 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote:

> And completely off-topic, Andre Lafosse has THE TONE.
>=20
> :-)
>=20
> -Petri-
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> 2011/5/30 William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com>
> i would disagree w/ the frisell not being "innovative". his disfarmer =
disc and his live double disc from a few yrs ago had some great stuff on =
there. and when i saw him live 2 yrs ago, his little 2 min looping thing =
had people scratching their heads-it was a great noisefest-
>=20
>  Let me clarify, I think Bill Frissell is a tremendously innovative =
musician , and having seem him play since the first time I caught  him =
with Tiger's Baku at Pooh's Pub in Boston in 1978 and seen him  recently =
as well, his looping moments are always musical and brilliant. I'm =
talking about the extended techniques that the EDP and a bit later the =
Electrix repeater offered, and that  are available in one form or =
another along with a bunch of other cool editing features on the =
Looperlative  and various software platforms . But maybe its splitting =
hairs a bit, but  a guy like David Torn really has employed those =
techniques whereas Frissell has somewhat scratched the surface. Someone =
mentioned Andre Lafosse,  who was very innovative in his self described =
turntablist guitar approach, I found more inspiration watching him  in =
the couple of gigs we shared than  any of the more established names =
mentioned thus far, and that goes  for several musicians on this list as =
well,  guitarists and non guitarists alike.
> Bill
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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">No =
kidding eh :) Guess he's not active on this list anymore... love to see =
him play sometime but it seems he is LA bound... =
:)<div><br></div><div><br><div><br><div><div>On May 30, 2011, at 3:31 =
PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite">And =
completely off-topic, Andre Lafosse has THE =
TONE.<br><br>:-)<br><br>-Petri-<br><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/5/30 William Walker <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:billwalker@baymoon.com">billwalker@baymoon.com</a>&gt;</spa=
n><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; =
border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div =
class=3D"im"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt =
0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: =
1ex;">

i would disagree w/ the frisell not being "innovative". his disfarmer =
disc and his live double disc from a few yrs ago had some great stuff on =
there. and when i saw him live 2 yrs ago, his little 2 min looping thing =
had people scratching their heads-it was a great noisefest-<br>

</blockquote>
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&nbsp;Let me clarify, I think Bill Frissell is a tremendously innovative =
musician , and having seem him play since the first time I caught =
&nbsp;him with Tiger's Baku at Pooh's Pub in Boston in 1978 and seen him =
&nbsp;recently as well, his looping moments are always musical and =
brilliant. I'm talking about the extended techniques that the EDP and a =
bit later the Electrix repeater offered, and that &nbsp;are available in =
one form or another along with a bunch of other cool editing features on =
the Looperlative &nbsp;and various software platforms . But maybe its =
splitting hairs a bit, but &nbsp;a guy like David Torn really has =
employed those techniques whereas Frissell has somewhat scratched the =
surface. Someone mentioned Andre Lafosse, &nbsp;who was very innovative =
in his self described turntablist guitar approach, I found more =
inspiration watching him &nbsp;in the couple of gigs we shared than =
&nbsp;any of the more established names mentioned thus far, and that =
goes &nbsp;for several musicians on this list as well, &nbsp;guitarists =
and non guitarists alike.<br>

Bill<br>
<br>
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cool thanx!

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>> A rudimentary sampler comes with
>>> Live but if you really want to tweak your own sounds you need to pay
>>> extra for buying their sampler Sampler (it's named "Sampler").
>>
>> isnt it called "simpler" Per?
>>
>
>
> No. "Simpler" is the rudimentary sampler that comes bundled with Live.
> The product "Sampler" is a real sampler for Live that you have to buy
> as an add-on. "Sampler" is more advanced than "Simpler".
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> www.looproom.com internet music hub
>
>



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I wish I knew.

I too paid my money, submitted my track, and designed some nifty cover 
art for it but have not heard much of late.

I assume there are hangups somewhere along the way.

I have not heard from or written to the organizer for a while.

I guess I am being lazy.

I should probably send him an email poke or two.

Best,

Ted

On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 8:57 AM, ejyuhas wrote:

  Fellow looping contributors...

Has anyone heard of an updated status on our CD contributions? It's been 
a year or so since we've all submitted the tunes, paid, etc.

Just putting feelers out...

Regards,

Edward Yuhas


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ated status on our CD contributions? It's been a year or so since we've all=
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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Louie Angulo wrote:
> now if u want the cream of the crop,hardware,software
> not exactly cheap but this thing seems killer
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYVQR-YdVJI
Not on my budget, baby!!!!    But it sure looks cool.

rick

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I am forwarding this to the Looper list because most of the music will 
come from recurring vocal loops taken from audience participation.
If you are in the area on Sat please come over for a while.
It's free and it's an ongoing installation so you can stay for as long 
as you feel like it.

Language shapes our perception of the world around us and within us.
Through the creative construction and deconstruction of the written and
spoken word,
Radio Free Clear Light brings you the power to play with the fabric of
reality
in this interactive multimedia installation
adapted from the photo instructional manual, Web Of Words.
Come be an integral part of the installation
and add your words to the web.

Connect at Kaleidoscope free speech zone
3109 24th Street, San Francisco, CA 94110 (703) 343-3021
kaleidoscopefreespeechzone.com
June 4th
7pm-10pm

During MAPP

THIS IS A FREE EVENT!

-- 
JC Mendizabal
Black Note Music
http://www.blacknotemusic.com

Via Sinistrae
www.viasinistrae.com
http://sinistrae.libsyn.com/

Other Sites
http://rfcl.tumblr.com/
http://maddogmagick.blogspot.com/
http://secretsareeverywhere.blogspot.com/



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Thanks for taking all that time to respond,  Per.   You are always so 
knowledgeable and thorough and I really respect
your opinions about all things in the digital musical world.

Much as Geist looks really cool,  I really want is something that is 
extremely easy to see on the screen,  which FLStudio excels at.
I think IZotope iDrum might actually be the best at this as you can see 
simply what each sample is doing on a rhythmic grid.

I'm just about to put  a video studio together at my house so that I can
teach the Rhythm Intensive to people remotely.

I need to figure out a way to show both my face and also switch between 
real time screen shots of a
sample sequencer that is drum machine oriented so that it's very simple 
for people to get the examples.

I usually use my computer as an aid in these lessons so I'm trying to 
figure out the best way to do this.

If anyone has any ideas about what software to use to be able to switch 
'views' in real time during a
SKYPE or YAHOO MESSENGER CHAT  I'd love the input.

yours,   Rick


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Hi folks,

  I've posted a fun photo essay called "Swirlies" at 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157626713121989/ and 
put a description of the essay belpw.

Time exposures that turn moving lights into streaks are a staple of 
night photography. Time exposures in which the camera is moving 
instead of (or in addition to) the lights are less common. They were 
not very practical in the days of film because you got no immediate 
feedback and had to pay for every shot.

When I do this with a digital camera, I get immediate feedback on the 
results of my last shot, and the only cost is the time it takes to 
evaluate the images. I've used this technique with all of my digital 
cameras (the SLR's give me the added option of zooming in or out 
during the exposure.)

I recently acquired a Lumix LX3 -- a camera with a Leica lens that is 
as good or better than my DSLR lenses. It  is very compact, which 
makes it easy to whip around at high speeds.

The pictures in this set are mostly one second time exposures, with 
the camera in unlimited burst mode, which gives me approximately one 
picture a second. I get to look at each picture for a second, which 
allows me to improvise further camera moves in reaction to what I 
have just taken. This adds to the improvisational feeling of the work 
-- I sometimes think it as a photographic version of Action Painting 
I call photos take with this technique "Swirlies".

These photos were taken at four different times and locations.
1.	In Boston, next to the parking lot  I use on days when I work 
at the Boris FX office.
2.	At the Chihuly exhibit of blown glass at Boston's Museum of Fine Arts.
3.	At a concert by the Dave Bryant Quartet at Outpost 186, Inman 
Square, Cambridge. Most are of sax player Jim Hobbs.
4.	Walking around Inman Square after the concert

BTW Some of my videos can be viewed at
http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld
-- 
" Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better."  -- Paul Bley

		Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D.
Video Producer			Image Processing Specialist
Video for your HEAD!			Boris FX
http://www.foryourhead.com		http://www.borisfx.com

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Hi Todd=2C I've used some sports-type ear plugs (the type that wrap around =
the outside of your ears) they work a treat for me. I usually seal them on =
with blu tac to isolate the sound too.
G

Gareth=2C Sentientfx -  Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/



> Subject: Couple Questions for the Live Veterans=20
> From: gtmatthews@gmail.com
> Date: Mon=2C 30 May 2011 13:42:12 -0400
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=20
> What's a good choice for affordable ear monitor system that aren't comple=
te shit=2C so they at least get the job done. I think I need to move on fro=
m the big ass cans on my head. They sound great and work great for tracking=
 but they nearly fall off when I'm moving around a lot.
>=20
> What do you guys use for your mailing list? Would it be fine for me to se=
nd out upcoming shows emails on my own and just stick all the addresses in =
the Bcc field while my numbers are low......or is there some great advantag=
e I don't know about for using mail chimp or fan bridge. I checked out thos=
e sites but I'm not completely sure I understand the big picture with their=
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> Thank you for sharing your experience and wisdom :)
> Todd Matthews
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Rick Walker wrote:
> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote:
>> Not saying that he isn't, I'm not that familiar with his work.
>> ...but to make a point surely it's desirable to list his
>> innovations.
>>
>> andy 
> That is a hard one to put into words,  Andy.
> I think he is more innovative, musically speaking than technologically 
> speaking.

...but I think that to be innovative as a looper 
it's actually necessary to invent a loop technique, 
or to apply that technique in a new way, or to bring those
results that others have achieved into a different musical context.

Not the same as being innovative *and* a looper.

andy





 

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Rick have you tried Adobe Connect?
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobatconnectpro/trial/

Of course it's commercial etc but during my teaching days, I found it to  be
an
essential tool for remote teaching


2011/5/31 Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>

> Thanks for taking all that time to respond,  Per.   You are always so
> knowledgeable and thorough and I really respect
> your opinions about all things in the digital musical world.
>
> Much as Geist looks really cool,  I really want is something that is
> extremely easy to see on the screen,  which FLStudio excels at.
> I think IZotope iDrum might actually be the best at this as you can see
> simply what each sample is doing on a rhythmic grid.
>
> I'm just about to put  a video studio together at my house so that I can
> teach the Rhythm Intensive to people remotely.
>
> I need to figure out a way to show both my face and also switch between
> real time screen shots of a
> sample sequencer that is drum machine oriented so that it's very simple for
> people to get the examples.
>
> I usually use my computer as an aid in these lessons so I'm trying to
> figure out the best way to do this.
>
> If anyone has any ideas about what software to use to be able to switch
> 'views' in real time during a
> SKYPE or YAHOO MESSENGER CHAT  I'd love the input.
>
> yours,   Rick
>
>
>


-- 
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Rick have you tried Adobe Connect?<br><a href=3D"http://www.adobe.com/produ=
cts/acrobatconnectpro/trial/">http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobatconnectp=
ro/trial/</a><br><br>Of course it&#39;s commercial etc but during my teachi=
ng days, I found it to=A0 be an <br>
essential tool for remote teaching<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">20=
11/5/31 Rick Walker <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:looppool@cruzio=
.com">looppool@cruzio.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204,=
 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Thanks for taking all that time to respond, =A0Per. =A0 You are always so k=
nowledgeable and thorough and I really respect<br>
your opinions about all things in the digital musical world.<br>
<br>
Much as Geist looks really cool, =A0I really want is something that is extr=
emely easy to see on the screen, =A0which FLStudio excels at.<br>
I think IZotope iDrum might actually be the best at this as you can see sim=
ply what each sample is doing on a rhythmic grid.<br>
<br>
I&#39;m just about to put =A0a video studio together at my house so that I =
can<br>
teach the Rhythm Intensive to people remotely.<br>
<br>
I need to figure out a way to show both my face and also switch between rea=
l time screen shots of a<br>
sample sequencer that is drum machine oriented so that it&#39;s very simple=
 for people to get the examples.<br>
<br>
I usually use my computer as an aid in these lessons so I&#39;m trying to f=
igure out the best way to do this.<br>
<br>
If anyone has any ideas about what software to use to be able to switch &#3=
9;views&#39; in real time during a<br>
SKYPE or YAHOO MESSENGER CHAT =A0I&#39;d love the input.<br>
<br>
yours, =A0 Rick<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Petri Lahtinen<br><br><=
a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.petril=
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Rick I'm so with you on the downfall of Facebook...
I hope it comes soon  :-D

2011/5/31 Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk>

>  Hi Todd,
> I've used some sports-type ear plugs (the type that wrap around the outside
> of your ears) they work a treat for me. I usually seal them on with blu tac
> to isolate the sound too.
>
> G
>
> Gareth, Sentientfx -  Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/
>
>
>
> > Subject: Couple Questions for the Live Veterans
> > From: gtmatthews@gmail.com
> > Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 13:42:12 -0400
> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
> >
> > What's a good choice for affordable ear monitor system that aren't
> complete shit, so they at least get the job done. I think I need to move on
> from the big ass cans on my head. They sound great and work great for
> tracking but they nearly fall off when I'm moving around a lot.
> >
> > What do you guys use for your mailing list? Would it be fine for me to
> send out upcoming shows emails on my own and just stick all the addresses in
> the Bcc field while my numbers are low......or is there some great advantage
> I don't know about for using mail chimp or fan bridge. I checked out those
> sites but I'm not completely sure I understand the big picture with their
> services.
> >
> > Thank you for sharing your experience and wisdom :)
> > Todd Matthews
>



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Rick I&#39;m so with you on the downfall of Facebook...<br>I hope it comes =
soon=A0 :-D<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/5/31 Gareth Whittock <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:buddhamachine@live.co.uk">buddhamachin=
e@live.co.uk</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">



<div>
Hi Todd,=A0<div>I&#39;ve used some sports-type ear plugs (the type that wra=
p around the outside of your ears) they work a treat for me. I usually seal=
 them on with blu tac to isolate the sound too.</div><div><br></div><div>
G<br><br>Gareth, Sentientfx -=A0 Innovative music plugins. <a href=3D"http:=
//sentientfx.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://sentientfx.com/</a><br><br><br>=
<br>&gt; Subject: Couple Questions for the Live Veterans <br>&gt; From: <a =
href=3D"mailto:gtmatthews@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gtmatthews@gmail.com=
</a><br>
&gt; Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 13:42:12 -0400<br>&gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:Lo=
opers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com</a><div class=3D"im"><br>&gt; <br>&gt; What&#39;s a good choi=
ce for affordable ear monitor system that aren&#39;t complete shit, so they=
 at least get the job done. I think I need to move on from the big ass cans=
 on my head. They sound great and work great for tracking but they nearly f=
all off when I&#39;m moving around a lot.<br>
&gt; <br>&gt; What do you guys use for your mailing list? Would it be fine =
for me to send out upcoming shows emails on my own and just stick all the a=
ddresses in the Bcc field while my numbers are low......or is there some gr=
eat advantage I don&#39;t know about for using mail chimp or fan bridge. I =
checked out those sites but I&#39;m not completely sure I understand the bi=
g picture with their services.<br>
&gt; <br>&gt; Thank you for sharing your experience and wisdom :)<br>&gt; T=
odd Matthews<br></div></div> 		 	   		  </div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Petri Lahtinen<br><br><=
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the cyber school my daughter is going to uses Connect and it's pretty slick.

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 5:28 AM, Petri Lahtinen <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com
> wrote:

> Rick have you tried Adobe Connect?
> http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobatconnectpro/trial/
>
> Of course it's commercial etc but during my teaching days, I found it to
> be an
> essential tool for remote teaching
>
>
>
> 2011/5/31 Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>
>
>> Thanks for taking all that time to respond,  Per.   You are always so
>> knowledgeable and thorough and I really respect
>> your opinions about all things in the digital musical world.
>>
>> Much as Geist looks really cool,  I really want is something that is
>> extremely easy to see on the screen,  which FLStudio excels at.
>> I think IZotope iDrum might actually be the best at this as you can see
>> simply what each sample is doing on a rhythmic grid.
>>
>> I'm just about to put  a video studio together at my house so that I can
>> teach the Rhythm Intensive to people remotely.
>>
>> I need to figure out a way to show both my face and also switch between
>> real time screen shots of a
>> sample sequencer that is drum machine oriented so that it's very simple
>> for people to get the examples.
>>
>> I usually use my computer as an aid in these lessons so I'm trying to
>> figure out the best way to do this.
>>
>> If anyone has any ideas about what software to use to be able to switch
>> 'views' in real time during a
>> SKYPE or YAHOO MESSENGER CHAT  I'd love the input.
>>
>> yours,   Rick
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Petri Lahtinen
>
> http://www.petrilahtinen.com
>
>


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the cyber school my daughter is going to uses Connect and it&#39;s pretty s=
lick.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 5:28 AM, Pe=
tri Lahtinen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kollegavalmentaja@gmai=
l.com">kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-l=
eft-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: s=
olid;" class=3D"gmail_quote">Rick have you tried Adobe Connect?<br><a href=
=3D"http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobatconnectpro/trial/" target=3D"_blan=
k">http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobatconnectpro/trial/</a><br>
<br>Of course it&#39;s commercial etc but during my teaching days, I found =
it to=A0 be an <br>
essential tool for remote teaching<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/5/31 Rick Walker <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:looppool@cruzio.com" target=3D"_blank">looppool@cruzio.c=
om</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-l=
eft-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: s=
olid;" class=3D"gmail_quote">
Thanks for taking all that time to respond, =A0Per. =A0 You are always so k=
nowledgeable and thorough and I really respect<br>
your opinions about all things in the digital musical world.<br>
<br>
Much as Geist looks really cool, =A0I really want is something that is extr=
emely easy to see on the screen, =A0which FLStudio excels at.<br>
I think IZotope iDrum might actually be the best at this as you can see sim=
ply what each sample is doing on a rhythmic grid.<br>
<br>
I&#39;m just about to put =A0a video studio together at my house so that I =
can<br>
teach the Rhythm Intensive to people remotely.<br>
<br>
I need to figure out a way to show both my face and also switch between rea=
l time screen shots of a<br>
sample sequencer that is drum machine oriented so that it&#39;s very simple=
 for people to get the examples.<br>
<br>
I usually use my computer as an aid in these lessons so I&#39;m trying to f=
igure out the best way to do this.<br>
<br>
If anyone has any ideas about what software to use to be able to switch &#3=
9;views&#39; in real time during a<br>
SKYPE or YAHOO MESSENGER CHAT =A0I&#39;d love the input.<br>
<br>
yours, =A0 Rick<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br></div></div><font color=3D"#88=
8888">-- <br>Petri Lahtinen<br><br><a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com"=
 target=3D"_blank">http://www.petrilahtinen.com</a><br><br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>-=3D=3D-=3D-=3D-=
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I will be out of the office starting  05/31/2011 and will not return until
06/18/2011.

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oh no not again...

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Whitey on the moon....

>I will be out of the office starting  05/31/2011 and will not return until
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Not sure how well known he is in Germany, but Keller Williams uses looping
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<p>Not sure how well known he is in Germany, but Keller Williams uses looping extensively in his live shows.</p>

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Andy mentioned John Martyn earlier in this thread.

Not to put to fine a point on it, but John Martyn was maybe less a =
looper and more of an Echoplex monster :)

I have not listened to Leeds in many years (my vinyl is boxed up and =
lonely) but the quintessential JM echoplex jam is likely Glistening =
Glyndebourne from Live at Leeds, which I do not see on YouTube today.

For anyone who has not listened to John Martyn, he's a true gem. Here =
are a few examples, not necessarily of my favorites or his best, but =
echoplex-centric bits...

The Dealer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dq7YJ_F1vTnY&feature=3Drelated

Outside In (also the first track from Leeds, but this is a different =
performance)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D0htRGw3hzZQ

And oh, hell, this one is included just because it is completely badass:
Lookin' On
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfjnhYEVMxrE

Best Martyn albums IMO are Bless the Weather, Solid Air, and Grace & =
Danger, but there are so many to choose from :)

OK, end of fanboy raving...

Phil C :)



On May 29, 2011, at 1:16 AM, andy butler wrote:

> ..and Riley's was a live performance technique.
>=20
> The Brian May "two guitars" tape delay effect is on one of Queen's =
early albums, it's just a single repeat iirc.
>=20
> I've also heard that Gary Moore used some kind of long tape
> delay, disabling the erase head on (I'm guessing) a Roland
> Space Echo.
>=20
> ..the other proto looper would have to be John Martyn,
> keeping chords and rhythm going by playing into a one
> bar delay. (first track of "Live at Leeds" album)
>=20
> Stockhausen certainly had a modified tape deck that
> would allow a live tape loop performance (different to Riley's),
> ..but whether he ever let a guitarist plug in....
>=20
>=20
>=20
> andy
>=20
>=20
>=20
> andy=20
> Rick Walker wrote:
>> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Victor Eijkhout wrote:
>>> On May 28, 2011, at 7:41 AM, ligeti@alice.it wrote:
>>>=20
>>>> You can found the dawn of loop's universe in the first works of =
Steve Reich ("it's gonna rain"; "come out"...)
>>> Use of tape loops is probably much older than that. Pierre Schaefer =
1940s?
>>>=20
>>> But it's not live.
>>>=20
>>> Victor.
>> It is my understanding that the first person, historically, to use =
tape loops compositionally (and as the basis for the composition)
>> was Terry Riley.   He gave specific tape looping concerts in the 60's =
and was the original inspiration for people like Eno and Fripp.
>> rick walker
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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; =
"><div>Andy mentioned John Martyn earlier in this =
thread.</div><div><br></div><div>Not to put to fine a point on it, but =
John Martyn was maybe less a looper and more of an Echoplex =
<b>monster</b> :)</div><div><br></div><div>I have not listened to Leeds =
in many years (my vinyl is boxed up and lonely) but the quintessential =
JM echoplex jam is likely Glistening Glyndebourne from Live at Leeds, =
which I do not see on YouTube today.</div><div><br></div><div>For anyone =
who has not listened to John Martyn, he's a true gem. Here are a few =
examples, not necessarily of my favorites or his best, but =
echoplex-centric bits...</div><div><br></div><blockquote =
class=3D"webkit-indent-blockquote" style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: =
none; padding: 0px;"><div>The Dealer</div><a =
href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dq7YJ_F1vTnY&amp;feature=3Drelated=
">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dq7YJ_F1vTnY&amp;feature=3Drelated</a><d=
iv><br></div><div>Outside In (also the first track from Leeds, but this =
is a different =
performance)</div><div>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D0htRGw3hzZQ</div><=
div><br></div><div>And oh, hell, this one is included just because it is =
completely badass:</div><div>Lookin' =
On</div><div>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfjnhYEVMxrE</div></blockquot=
e><div><br></div><div>Best Martyn albums IMO are Bless the Weather, =
Solid Air, and Grace &amp; Danger, but there are so many to choose from =
:)</div><div><br></div><div>OK, end of fanboy =
raving...</div><div><br></div><div>Phil C =
:)</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On May 29, =
2011, at 1:16 AM, andy butler wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>..and =
Riley's was a live performance technique.<br><br>The Brian May "two =
guitars" tape delay effect is on one of Queen's early albums, it's just =
a single repeat iirc.<br><br>I've also heard that Gary Moore used some =
kind of long tape<br>delay, disabling the erase head on (I'm guessing) a =
Roland<br>Space Echo.<br><br>..the other proto looper would have to be =
John Martyn,<br>keeping chords and rhythm going by playing into a =
one<br>bar delay. (first track of "Live at Leeds" =
album)<br><br>Stockhausen certainly had a modified tape deck =
that<br>would allow a live tape loop performance (different to =
Riley's),<br>..but whether he ever let a guitarist plug =
in....<br><br><br><br>andy<br><br><br><br>andy <br>Rick Walker =
wrote:<br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Victor Eijkhout =
wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">On May 28, 2011, at 7:41 AM, <a =
href=3D"mailto:ligeti@alice.it">ligeti@alice.it</a> =
wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">You =
can found the dawn of loop's universe in the first works of Steve Reich =
("it's gonna rain"; "come =
out"...)<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">Use of tape loops is probably =
much older than that. Pierre Schaefer =
1940s?<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">But it's not =
live.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">Victor.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">It is my understanding that the first person, =
historically, to use tape loops compositionally (and as the basis for =
the composition)<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">was Terry =
Riley. &nbsp;&nbsp;He gave specific tape looping concerts in the 60's =
and was the original inspiration for people like Eno and =
Fripp.<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">rick =
walker<br></blockquote><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></htm=
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I made some blueberry pie, come on and have a slice!

http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen/bluberry-pie

RC-30 and heavily gearin towards Satriani-type of driving with the top
rolled down-feel.
:-) but there's plenty of Finnish melancholy and sadness in this mix.

-- 
Petri Lahtinen

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I made some blueberry pie, come on and have a slice!<br><br><a href=3D"http=
://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen/bluberry-pie">http://soundcloud.com/petrila=
htinen/bluberry-pie</a><br><br clear=3D"all"><span class=3D"gI"></span>RC-3=
0 and heavily gearin towards Satriani-type of driving with the top rolled d=
own-feel.<br>
:-) but there&#39;s plenty of Finnish melancholy and sadness in this mix.<b=
r><br>-- <br>Petri Lahtinen<br><br><a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com"=
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Good luck Michael!

Not sure how historical you want to get, but I'm pretty sure Vladamir
Ussachevsky's live performance of "Sonic Contours" at the New York Museum of
Modern Art in 1952 was the first use of live looping (tape delay of course):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og3QDR-gMWY

I'd call that performance a bit of a novelty, though it apparently created
something of a sensation. After that, it was really Terry Riley who
incorporated live looping as the basis for composition and performance, and
he should be credited as the father of live looping. I'd say that Fripp and
Eno picked up on what Riley was doing and the rest is, well, history.

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<br>-- <br>Art Simon<br><a href=3D"mailto:simart@gmail.com">simart@gmail.co=
m</a><br>myspace [dot] com/artsimon<br>

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