From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 05:12:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7862F18349D; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 05:12:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <9CF5DDE9-4CCA-4959-AE40-9D2AEA961F84@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: OT: Line 6 M5 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 22:12:11 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108710 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 05:12:18 +0000 (UTC) Interesting new variant on the M family a box half the size of an M-9 that does no looping and only one effect at a time, though you can store presets. its stereo in and out and there is both tap tempo and an expression pedal port plus midi in and out. The upside is you have your choice of the 100 or so effects from Line 6 line, including all of the great midi synced filters modulations and delays. It seems like people were asking for a tiny footprint version of the larger models to fit on crowded pedal boards. Don't know what its priced at yet. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 07:30:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5C8318349D; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 07:30:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Zw7+DpHnWezbAW1p1g/xUXOCeW/5ILzgl4qVrj5G3Mk=; b=uNJ++R6i+x4LGI0IgJVSIkWcpU6EW1QTGrQ8iOQ+8yXJjRiF61VmmXNI5/vfZsde9O e+Dc1RYqbShCOea+8ofOArBsVLQ3i2a4FNTXUwxbiA28CwTQ/xKo/A0c6sVWgJoClu6t t9Vzz2L5J1CzPdiA3Bn2+tsnTcM+mwGEy1LWY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rI8PXazKVQjAsAyotgUzIGk6dgeXeQytfGCwxdmURF86j4/shpNmKoesOMjYXg+NYr 0bjL8eossQYfs4jaBLuFALBXm2qNi6a1WDJ6G3cNQH42ho7QnrbSVvW5logy15mAiZrc rJpmpGFrikj2n1uCEZ3BGvPWV/ExuUdZA3rxM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9FBAE873300B4BADA8E053FF1FF459A5@INGO> References: <910180C7-607F-43F2-A201-622B74225CB6@mac.com> <9FBAE873300B4BADA8E053FF1FF459A5@INGO> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 09:30:13 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: More Softstep Feedback - Attention Bill Walker:) From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108711 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 07:30:15 +0000 (UTC) ive owned 2 FCB1010 is about 7 years,the first one started acting weird and button 1 ceased to work,the second one started acting funny and was thinking about getting rid of it, but then i heard about the UnO chip,as soon as i replaced it all the problems were gone and ive been more than happy with it ever since. As big as it is i just love its construction,and the price for what it does is excellent,the UnO chip is also a freebee at 16.-eur. its really reliable,no more issues with weird messages,the switches are my favorite,big and noise free and you cant miss them even if u had too many pints:-) I would say kudos to Xavier more than to Behringer! Luis On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:39 PM, Ingo Ito wrote: > Hi, > > I haven=B4t=A0used a FCB1010 up to now, but as I need a new midi-controll= er and > can=B4t afford the Little Gordius yet, I intend to buy a FCB 1010=A0and d= id a > bit of web research about the problems, many of you had mentioned on this > list. > > I came upon this website http://www.ossandust.be/index.php=A0of a guy who= =B4s > selling eproms with improved software for the FCB1010 . He has a comparis= on > chart on=A0his website, so those of you who are already=A0using the FCB10= 10 can > check if some of the occurring problems are solved with this new software= . > As you simply replace the old chip, you can always go back to the origina= l > software. The guy sells the e-prom (incl. worldwide shipping) for 16 Euro= s, > which is quite okay I guess if the device is working without any issues > afterwards. > > Maybe sb. has already done this replacement and can share his experiences= ?! > > Ingo > > > > Ingo Ito > www.itofarm.com > > > > Conversly, I have been through four FCB1010s in as many years-- the swith= ces > are great.=A0 But the Firmware is unstable. They go hey wire eventually a= nd > start srumbumbling all your CC presets eventually.=A0 Once this happens, = they > never perform well again in my experience.=A0 Even after a total > initialization and reprogramming.=A0 Also, two of the four that I have ow= ned I > have had to service the internal power supply. > > I continue to use them because they are cheap, they are silent to click a= nd > the chassis is really well built. > > If I could figure out what the trigger event is that causes this problem, > (Some combination of midi commands?) perhaps I would not some day buy a > fifth one FCB1010. > > d > On Mar 31, 2011, at 6:26 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > >> I've only owned my fcb for a few years so I haven't had it long enough t= o >> comment on it's durability but the switches are my favorite as they are >> pretty quiet (unlike metal switches) and it gets two thumbs up from me o= n >> press-ability :) >> >> -Todd >> On Mar 31, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Rafael Nunes wrote: >> >>> I was just gonna say this. Whoever though Behringer would be getting >>> credibility for durability! HA! I agree though, I've used a couple of M= IDI >>> controllers, and pound for pound the FCB1010 is reliable. Sometimes I h= ave >>> to doublepress buttons, but I know it'll always work! >> >> >> >> >> > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 07:42:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F40E718349D; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 07:42:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mmJ2FVmSjzmmZfIIqVF9Q3uwGhzsjVP33eXMKqeYO+4=; b=k7vH6miaEkTPJYC+1CBZujZit+gwe2GSCrkMsT4TiTT5HhmS3ztPE1pnaF7z5bMouc xePG62G+wbPc0kRfOeZuQKpKbS6ENrQ7riGhwkVzs8JrxKce8+BAQYOp9i4b6y/FqD66 6ddwvJmdx6xeyI7lpfUeFjHXGl13JKqLLQIh8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=EW1HNLB3YNkhSQLz6Cz1xhaaJOGAG/xxrHpljLPRIoMzFc7UjlCI6YsNBpoLBQTAyK asMm36GhDFg/h1nvN/VjQjDKCYgDx/hf3VOOVbK0LQDJPOYCTmVWkWxgO8yL195BAn4O N0zfgfaqEBQv6+i16/83vi+0IxRxVFbDWL+UI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D949E2E.7040902@googlemail.com> <910180C7-607F-43F2-A201-622B74225CB6@mac.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8B45D@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 09:42:16 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A while back..... From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108712 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 07:42:18 +0000 (UTC) hey Per i saw one of your stick videos cheers man you are getting really good! can you give me some info about it? which one is it? where did you get it and what did you pay for it? Ive checked out the warr guitars,i must say i like the looks better;-) what are the differences in terms of playing are there any advantages of that one or is it pure looks? thanx! Luis On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 12:33 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 10:05 PM, mark francombe wrote: > >> Basicaly my instrument is looping, > > Looping is one of my favorite instruments too! Especially in a duo or > solo setup using a monophonic wind instrument. But lately I have > started playing the Stick as a way to get away a bit from looping; > with two fretboards and twelve strings you can instantly play parts > that for example a flute needs the looper extension to pull off. > > In another sense I might say that I extend my playing with loopers for > similar reasons that some folks take to the prepared piano or prepared > guitar. It just makes it more fun to create music on the fly. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 07:47:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 189011834A0; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 07:47:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+2SY3vcfkDRrhVtSaKVrQvzMAD2jCJOzb+ypeVSpE9Q=; b=KVWWKbm2wHta+PczIxpbfAe87eSlfU9oiaOOvg+HM0B/eizDsBBQXWyLgcS7Sujdjr eR1QujubiMRjGXuZTl2lJcLdcatMfwNUfFZzFSvPXe5EY2c3wjlxSx24FqOYODkQuldP p248Evbh93CUQOB2Jbgt1YJ/fkDLHEj7rKgQs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=NtZ/0IkbFqLfiYPUzvP41EXQA2IM+4zaDEBlOQhih59Cb0TPsGXJf687ufCWkx4hUX ybXUnWzvuptGMbGPzHREdtCRIsBFSiFrrzmvBG+jRw+jdhJEcGd35XopiA+3buglXbb0 RQDM2Hz+E/EwP8z0ilblp75q50XVrni06VFcE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20110331123451.84p0tf7e0oww8gc4@webmail.musetrap.com> References: <20110331123451.84p0tf7e0oww8gc4@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 09:47:38 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Video, Soul Coughing Cover :-) From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <-Vu0C.A.UfG.bMYlNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108713 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 07:47:39 +0000 (UTC) groovy brothda! nice guitar sound,is that a PRS? are u using guitar rig? On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 7:34 PM, wrote: > move aside, let the man thru.. > > fun cover of a great song.. :) are you a mike doughty fan as well? > > -cpr > > Quoting Rafael Nunes : > >> Hey Everyone, I just uploaded a Youtube video. A cover of Soul Coughing's >> song "Super Bon Bon", it cuts in after I recorded the drum loop. >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULNRGJtMayQ >> >> -- >> Rafa's One Man Band Online: >> http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/ >> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239 >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwwsee6K1Sc >> http://vimeo.com/11499020 >> http://www.myspace.com/rafasonemanband >> > > > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 08:00:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8EA68183453; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 08:00:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=knjt/NyGuFsG0h5wVgJ+jzBeUY4f9sJq2I0acl9rkNE=; b=iVcwetHS04wtG+D3TYvaQtHZxu+HxbjHaxj7gup4T0SUqhmZxP1Qw4IRE+dY3KMD6t MRdsJfvTdMIv8TlpqZc84xjd54BsYtveMvemmGUpebz+JDpjh5Eq56FovNB2KvAzqs7x +na1rJDFVy+OspoaPYUPvMi8Gqfak7Fu5bzbI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=nsCY1PUugLAly4aN6rFiA1q39LzsV+EJ3TIjKCe3UTf8InACKQ3ZXVVHvJ5PGB5Sor aWKgtb/SwdYuXmuCNl9IIBaV66PPwWWIG7y6GIcS6jfGGmuYEw963pq64fymTYuc+sRv HNU30+3+hcpGdhRnG9JVoiOf+JBR2GIKS2gDY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4D949E2E.7040902@googlemail.com> <910180C7-607F-43F2-A201-622B74225CB6@mac.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8B45D@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 10:00:12 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5OlB8uDGDt-TO4v4WEOMgU87r70 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A while back..... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51961a1d73d4b049fd6cd43 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108714 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 08:00:33 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec51961a1d73d4b049fd6cd43 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 You prefer the look of the Warr guitars??? Are you mad? Why would you strap a coffee table round you neck...? I think that the stick look EXTREMELY COOL! And Im sure that Per will acknowledge that the playing position is more conducive to developing a new double handed playing style, maybe more reminiscent of piano playing, whereas with Warr guitars you are more likely to use your "metal style" tapping techniques.. I know which I prefer... I donno.. I have seem MANY MANY interesting and experimental Stick Players, but Warr guitarists just seem to enjoy playing Eleanor Rigby... On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Ive checked out the warr guitars,i must say i like the looks better;-) -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --bcaec51961a1d73d4b049fd6cd43 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You prefer the look of the Warr guitars??? Are you mad? Why would you strap= a coffee table round you neck...?

I think that the stick look EXTRE= MELY COOL! And Im sure that Per will acknowledge that the playing position = is more conducive to developing a new double handed playing style, maybe mo= re reminiscent of piano playing, whereas with Warr guitars you are more lik= ely to use your "metal style" tapping techniques..
I know which I prefer...

I donno.. I have seem MANY MANY interesting= and experimental Stick Players, but Warr guitarists just seem to enjoy pla= ying Eleanor Rigby...

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011= at 9:42 AM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
Ive checked out t= he warr guitars,i must say i like the looks better;-)


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Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--bcaec51961a1d73d4b049fd6cd43-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 08:25:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD0C518349C; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 08:25:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XwwkKfzDjMquKUATldBHcy8aCFflkW+LmjNPIZ4FVb0=; b=Q5OO7q0/g2/CMhcqXpqKM9RYbwIMS7BZ7MG81M/PdY9+lncw2Qll+5zSBBPlZJKdct Oo70uIFcy/sHdXQJg2YvMMw9n6fPiaY5CIIZK/mTHOx2Y2Fw4tSjPfN7bQ0gfsqtBeFQ xxryBN/B/CMNVZDFQYxJQJHax1xY52dAHXsLc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=NQaq5YiQoRHpUtNr1FamdlFcuPFyMvVDfrB21oUUrxUhlKJ1OEtg4dYyXIVvTL2hPF lq7UmCaOW50LJUet9jDLWMVIsJKL4LmMAbQ1bdz8tOk/x/1VGGm+BJ7vjHRl9RVKixG8 NgxuloBuy51hoHk4aKd3j4M4spGxW/CSrCY0I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D949E2E.7040902@googlemail.com> <910180C7-607F-43F2-A201-622B74225CB6@mac.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8B45D@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 10:25:04 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A while back..... From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108715 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 08:25:06 +0000 (UTC) my bad,its been a while since i looked at them,there was one i think the trey gunn model that didnt look that bad,i was concentrating more on the electronics mounted and capabilities but now that i looked at their size yes they are coffee tables:-) Luis On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 10:00 AM, mark francombe wrote: > You prefer the look of the Warr guitars??? Are you mad? Why would you strap > a coffee table round you neck...? > > I think that the stick look EXTREMELY COOL! And Im sure that Per will > acknowledge that the playing position is more conducive to developing a new > double handed playing style, maybe more reminiscent of piano playing, > whereas with Warr guitars you are more likely to use your "metal style" > tapping techniques.. > I know which I prefer... > > I donno.. I have seem MANY MANY interesting and experimental Stick Players, > but Warr guitarists just seem to enjoy playing Eleanor Rigby... > > On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> >> Ive checked out the warr guitars,i must say i like the looks better;-) > > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 10:05:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90B6918349E; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 10:05:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=w+XzPUX4f6f2IJcV0Z/54HVim97W1ejVeIaHLPsE+rE=; b=IOWCqnMiK/doFi/LW7ut9bOawd55fqnsDm0+Fy7zyiifqsnqbpUdfYyDHD116ouoEz MKnOfsRKmjjzR/vPSk6FkGxHGQIZ6as8qIdouzVh7fgIQltsbUQnkHXZUfNpiQjKLPnA k98fyqBFTXNbsh5nZHD/wRdImtC+nEjM6MOLY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=saSjD65FFh5/Pcq+ciBJKf79Gbhbvm8Y3op1u/3pz1L0PmmfLOdD+BK49IxjJJtrE5 W9ZD/OgCZV/zKUSZiwQ+L8ydaudxxksXc/qwh/kl4idtUm/xfPBWQzrKVy4RMdojN8zl DkrWftYupRIGECpu1iECygRT5k3RVwG9lFNfA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D949E2E.7040902@googlemail.com> <910180C7-607F-43F2-A201-622B74225CB6@mac.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8B45D@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 12:05:48 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A while back..... From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <-nUkAC.A.q-.-NalNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108716 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 10:05:50 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > hey Per i saw one of your stick videos cheers man you are getting really good! > can you give me some info about it? which one is it? where did you get > it and what did you pay for it? > Ive checked out the warr guitars,i must say i like the looks better;-) > what are the differences in terms of playing are there any advantages > of that one or is it pure looks? Most questions should be answered at www.stick.com. Personally I started with a 12 stringed Grand Stick, but now I have settled with a 12 stringed Stick Guitar, the SG-12 (yet no video up on that one). It has a guitar length scale of 24 frets while the Grand Stick has 36 frets. The smaller instrument fits me better both in sound and shape, and I rarely need those ultra deep bass strings of the Grand. The Warr guitars are just too ugly for my taste. And they are too expensive and too heavy as well. What I like with the Stick's design is that it is minimal. The stick body is just bare bones and the kind of wood used hardly matters for the sound; you're getting the pure sound of steel and strings. The upright, almost vertical, playing position of the Stick gives both hands optimal access to the fretboard and makes it easy and comfortable to play. Finally, I really like the mirrored tuning in 4th on the guitar side of the fretboard and in 5ths on the bass side. You can explore chord voicings that aren't possible on many other instruments. Each fretboard side has two pickups and goes out through its own output. I set up my sound patches in pairs, so the melody and bass side go out through two different sounding but complementary effect chains. When playing this means you might "freeze a pad" with one hand while playing arpeggio with the other, or combine a bass line with chord vamps etc etc. The challenge to get on with this instrument is to rewire your brain to work better in multitasking mode ;-)) Drummers, piano players or harpists may have an advantage here. For me as a guitarist doubling on wind instruments it took many months to reach the threshold where you get both hands going fairly independently. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 10:55:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 810A9183453; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 10:55:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D95AEFF.6040307@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2011 03:54:55 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OMG OT: Harmonic Capo References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108717 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 10:55:03 +0000 (UTC) Hey all you looping guitar players, my wife just gave me the coolest fucking late Christmas present that I've ever received: It's going to have a huge impact on some of my guitar playing. It's called the Harmonic Capo (made by Bob Kilgore: http://www.weaseltrap.com/ ) It is a capo that you place on the 12th fret of an electric guitar that has 6 individual rubber stoppers whose height (and width) from above the fretboard can be individually adjusted. Essentially, what it does is play continual 12th fret Barre chord harmonics. Now, that is pretty cool by itself, but the truly groovy addition to this concept is that it is designed so that if you actually fret any string either in back or in front of the capo, the strength height is lowered enough so that the harmonic action of the capo is disengaged and a normal note sounds (allowing for normal melodies and/or chords to be played) What is so infinitely cool (at least to me who is not a guitarist but plays one on TV) is that you can tune the guitar like a zither........in other words, you can tune to 6 scalar notes (or your hearts content) and always be able to play harmonics in this scale whilst simultaneously playing leads as you strum or arpeggiate the harmonics. I set it up on my Fretless Strat tonight and just tuned my guitar to an interesting Arabic Maqam and then could alternate between playing bass lines on the lowest string (tonic) and melodies on all the other strings. Just goofing around with my M9 earlier tonight, I was able to use double and half speeds to create three octaves of harmonic parts and then solo over the resultant chimey 'soup' With all the harmonics singing, I was able to play my fretless guitar with my eyes closed, sliding in and out of consonance..........it's a really beautiful effect. My wife is amazing and I'm so happy that we had to wait to give each other Christmas months later than normal. Woohoooo!!!! I'm psyced! rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 11:24:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A8ED18349C; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 11:24:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lBwrkGKIoQfxR6HKi4FB12eXU7l3U8w4ahooGUvaIj8=; b=tz1LJm6WSUgwKuxRcTUegCR/euEgMMxOOd5KKs8cWIG5AYBxBed+L/G3+0UfnHDY7F 2uFHlcZrCUMbRrE707EznlyIHGbufPtXC7aj2CTEzsddHVfsJzLoGjuVKR5jg6e98JUr T5a17TOqgT0WrxF5YWDPG+m6YmUJqL3UjvipM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Hr5AWhJwM9bnSAMQN1sOcU8A/yX3SEed3mRzTrBEaX9v5iWgxIq4ek1QNzl5JF1yT0 g/zd+0oeVwYooa7Bh14jnJ3Pi/7iocCaOyJX4ERIKqZ4exLcN9xkvvp8yf5KKyNV3MsV 6zgv6kg8adeBEZKpYNBX29/mqgYhMSI/ZMDBM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9CF5DDE9-4CCA-4959-AE40-9D2AEA961F84@baymoon.com> References: <9CF5DDE9-4CCA-4959-AE40-9D2AEA961F84@baymoon.com> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 12:24:52 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Line 6 M5 From: Pawel Janowski To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016367b70f89f9893049fd9a895 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108718 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 11:24:53 +0000 (UTC) --0016367b70f89f9893049fd9a895 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I am very excited about it personally. I have dedicated pedals for things I use often (delay, OD/Fuzz, reverb, looper), but it's great to have a single pedal that can do some of the sounds I only need from time to time (i.e. rotary, tremolo, chorus). I will definitely be buying one to go on my pedalboard. It's bound to make a good addition to the LP 2 when that arrives. Pawel On 1 April 2011 06:12, William Walker wrote: > Interesting new variant on the M family a box half the size of an M-9 that > does no looping and only one effect at a time, though you can store presets. > its stereo in and out and there is both tap tempo and an expression pedal > port plus midi in and out. The upside is you have your choice of the 100 or > so effects from Line 6 line, including all of the great midi synced filters > modulations and delays. It seems like people were asking for a tiny > footprint version of the larger models to fit on crowded pedal boards. > Don't know what its priced at yet. > Bill > > --0016367b70f89f9893049fd9a895 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am very excited about it personally. I have dedicated pedals for thi= ngs I use often (delay, OD/Fuzz, reverb, looper), but it's great to hav= e a single pedal that can do some of the sounds I only need from time to ti= me (i.e. rotary, tremolo, chorus). I will definitely be buying one to go on= my pedalboard. It's bound to make a good addition to the LP 2 when tha= t arrives.
=A0
Pawel

On 1 April 2011 06:12, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.c= om> wrote:
Interesting new variant on the M= family a box half the size of an M-9 that does no looping and only one eff= ect at a time, though you can store presets. its stereo in and out and ther= e is both tap tempo and an expression pedal port plus midi in and out. The = upside is you have your choice of the 100 or so effects from Line 6 line, i= ncluding all of the great midi synced filters modulations and delays. It se= ems like people were asking for a tiny footprint version of the larger mode= ls =A0to fit on crowded pedal boards. Don't know what its priced at yet= .
=A0Bill


--0016367b70f89f9893049fd9a895-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 11:50:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8454918349C; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 11:50:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_d55d3f24-f221-41ea-a4ee-4ccc5d24a88e_" X-Originating-IP: [86.153.219.165] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: OMG OT: Harmonic Capo Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 11:50:33 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4D95AEFF.6040307@cruzio.com> References: ,<4D95AEFF.6040307@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Apr 2011 11:50:33.0776 (UTC) FILETIME=[02183300:01CBF063] Resent-Message-ID: <_0YLNC.A.39C.KwblNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108719 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 11:50:35 +0000 (UTC) --_d55d3f24-f221-41ea-a4ee-4ccc5d24a88e_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sounds very cool rick - make some recordings man! Peace Gareth@Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > Date: Fri=2C 1 Apr 2011 03:54:55 -0700 > From: looppool@cruzio.com > CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: OMG OT: Harmonic Capo > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Hey all you looping guitar players=2C my wife just gave me the coolest=20 > fucking late Christmas present > that I've ever received: It's going to have a huge impact on some of my= =20 > guitar playing. >=20 > It's called the Harmonic Capo (made by Bob Kilgore: =20 > http://www.weaseltrap.com/ ) >=20 > It is a capo that you place on the 12th fret of an electric guitar that=20 > has 6 individual > rubber stoppers whose height (and width) from above the fretboard can be= =20 > individually adjusted. >=20 > Essentially=2C what it does is play continual 12th fret Barre chord=20 > harmonics. >=20 > Now=2C that is pretty cool by itself=2C but the truly groovy addition to= =20 > this concept is that it is designed so that if you actually fret any=20 > string either > in back or in front of the capo=2C the strength height is lowered enough= =20 > so that the harmonic action > of the capo is disengaged and a normal note sounds (allowing for normal=20 > melodies and/or chords to be played) >=20 > What is so infinitely cool (at least to me who is not a guitarist but=20 > plays one on TV) > is that you can tune the guitar like a zither........in other words=2C =20 > you can tune to 6 scalar > notes (or your hearts content) and always be able to play harmonics in=20 > this scale whilst > simultaneously playing leads as you strum or arpeggiate the harmonics. >=20 > I set it up on my Fretless Strat tonight and just tuned my guitar to an=20 > interesting Arabic Maqam > and then could alternate between playing bass lines on the lowest string= =20 > (tonic) and melodies > on all the other strings. >=20 > Just goofing around with my M9 earlier tonight=2C I was able to use=20 > double and half speeds to create three octaves of harmonic parts > and then solo over the resultant chimey 'soup' With all the harmonics= =20 > singing=2C I was able to play my fretless guitar with my eyes closed=2C > sliding in and out of consonance..........it's a really beautiful effect. >=20 > My wife is amazing and I'm so happy that we had to wait to give each=20 > other Christmas months later than normal. >=20 > Woohoooo!!!! I'm psyced! >=20 > rick walker >=20 = --_d55d3f24-f221-41ea-a4ee-4ccc5d24a88e_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sounds very cool rick - make some recordings man!

Peace


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= --_d55d3f24-f221-41ea-a4ee-4ccc5d24a88e_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 11:56:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F91518344B; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 11:56:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=68d74xn9Yw2DBJI8trrbnQQ39ppjbb1tClKMkzh4icU=; b=bWftj9dZkzCJKLFowASLrgpRv0wg2ktMzDzjZ6GvViGnOCBXvTR5bNCed/7AatTZVG PBTEw8SZjZAIkXP0MwNejl3ImZkkfQSVKD2SkHxsnURui55H83sWe3pFWmfdfXK3mfWM L7sBOkhP6rOWX7T2MxUiZVcY+DFnIDpLabvQk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=OmKk0xphUfAy+fMaWFxaHOqvMcz/4i40LwunISQrbOxhEkMUg+Zbcj0pv43RJEDNAd KvaZsSxgk+28sAadKk5aGzbRNB2j/+GQnMZpU7Wje0o12+qppxHfBiVOEuT/axaEVUeJ bHRWW/pViAgp8/PJdiDafTqmDlkpdCojlm9nM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D95AEFF.6040307@cruzio.com> References: <4D95AEFF.6040307@cruzio.com> From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 13:56:16 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: vp01-G-CHIIP7xet7ti8OJXsRGk Message-ID: Subject: Re: OMG OT: Harmonic Capo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6137c215d361049fda1acb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108720 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 11:56:37 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6137c215d361049fda1acb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I think I spend about 15 seconds on the youtube clip before I hit BUY!! Cool Rick, thnks for the link m > Woohoooo!!!! I'm psyced! > > rick walker > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba6137c215d361049fda1acb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think I spend about 15 seconds on the youtube clip before I hit BUY!!
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Cool Rick, thnks for the link

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Woohoooo!!!! =A0 I'm psyced!

rick walker




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--90e6ba6137c215d361049fda1acb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 12:39:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A00A18349D; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 12:39:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=oIv04XXdEYh2MbYuDfZqeaswiw9+RGe2txZblPR/Lr4= c=1 sm=1 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=CNxbVC3+Q4TMjpjfeHDQxw==:17 a=gB28bEPOAAAA:8 a=VFLBUs1HAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=EzJUUNTIAAAA:8 a=SlLubrC-RzGC1HEYt7EA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=ZsJ1rGcmWBIA:10 a=CNxbVC3+Q4TMjpjfeHDQxw==:117 Message-Id: <48BD2882-FB5F-4808-A86B-5996CAA506DE@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OMG OT: Harmonic Capo Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 05:39:41 -0700 References: <4D95AEFF.6040307@cruzio.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <9MFAhC.A.QME.NeclNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108721 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 12:39:41 +0000 (UTC) Same here. I am a true guitar gizmo junkie On Apr 1, 2011, at 4:56 AM, mark francombe wrote: > I think I spend about 15 seconds on the youtube clip before I hit > BUY!! > > Cool Rick, thnks for the link > > m > > Woohoooo!!!! I'm psyced! > > rick walker > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 12:56:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B57318349D; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 12:56:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D95CB6D.9090607@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2011 08:56:13 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #730 for March 31, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108722 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 12:56:17 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/110331.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #730 March 31, 2011. RECAP: On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Richard Lainhart. The Featured CD at Midnight was "The Line of the Horizon" on O-Town Music. Lainhart: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#mar PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) vidnaObmana Encountering Terrain Chasing the Odyssee(Tonefloat) The Tangent Project 20:30 Live - The Gatherings (none) Etokle Het Mechanische Can The Golden Bear & Other Works De Slaap (Auraltone) Chuck van Zyl The Dead of Winter MemorySpace (Synkronos) Ombient Threshold Ombient (none) VA [Pictue Palace Array of Fading E-Live 2010 (Groove) Music] Flowers Richard Lainhart Twenty Chords The Line of the Horizon (O-Town) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Richard Lainhart Ludus I The Line of the Horizon (O-Town) Richard Lainhart RLines In Air The Line of the Horizon (O-Town) Richard Lainhart Ludus II The Line of the Horizon (O-Town) Richard Lainhart The Line of the The Line of the Horizon Horizon (O-Town) Richard Lainhart Ludus III The Line of the Horizon (O-Town) Richard Lainhart The Pelagic Bell The Line of the Horizon (O-Town) Richard Lainhart Oraison The Line of the Horizon (O-Town) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on Ombient. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Ombient" which is self-released. Ombient: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#apr Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 13:35:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50B1718349D; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 13:35:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=T54ecrJe1bv254B3ffnDLmUe4xCVcSlVt8X4vX4kXf4=; b=kXLV/n9Q08uJj/NpUc6gjwwTPWTxBKsHjL+n9NLuCm8uD3i7oK0/c+f69kzTJQYPqU RoPwiFLlk8pqSTPqpID42grX/40kDnO2ZKxuctuRu1G39TUFRwrPjJcxGPTKsH+P36pl zMmzwCRI6KAFS/EV+2jgwhPNXw610fgTkfBag= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=N3HV9fqNLZrW5hU+Z8YbR4YUJkRqf9wA1eqysxVoN1+D5lLzoPhs0T0cwtEGNcNodr pl0vHEzBPrygQFw4scyLkADtN/jcu/bFsGmryRUK9lcAksxrD0DjPjjszsOBfo5W3/7p nKzVNOwzdhO6saFVQIz/0TZMw1PWw0dl10oc0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D949E2E.7040902@googlemail.com> <910180C7-607F-43F2-A201-622B74225CB6@mac.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8B45D@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 09:35:49 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A while back..... From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd32d18f64d4b049fdb7caa Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108723 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 13:35:52 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd32d18f64d4b049fdb7caa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 There's a new player on the tap guitar scene. http://www.touchguitars.com/ On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 6:05 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Louie Angulo > wrote: > > hey Per i saw one of your stick videos cheers man you are getting really > good! > > can you give me some info about it? which one is it? where did you get > > it and what did you pay for it? > > Ive checked out the warr guitars,i must say i like the looks better;-) > > what are the differences in terms of playing are there any advantages > > of that one or is it pure looks? > > Most questions should be answered at www.stick.com. > > Personally I started with a 12 stringed Grand Stick, but now I have > settled with a 12 stringed Stick Guitar, the SG-12 (yet no video up on > that one). It has a guitar length scale of 24 frets while the Grand > Stick has 36 frets. The smaller instrument fits me better both in > sound and shape, and I rarely need those ultra deep bass strings of > the Grand. > > The Warr guitars are just too ugly for my taste. And they are too > expensive and too heavy as well. What I like with the Stick's design > is that it is minimal. The stick body is just bare bones and the kind > of wood used hardly matters for the sound; you're getting the pure > sound of steel and strings. The upright, almost vertical, playing > position of the Stick gives both hands optimal access to the fretboard > and makes it easy and comfortable to play. > > Finally, I really like the mirrored tuning in 4th on the guitar side > of the fretboard and in 5ths on the bass side. You can explore chord > voicings that aren't possible on many other instruments. Each > fretboard side has two pickups and goes out through its own output. I > set up my sound patches in pairs, so the melody and bass side go out > through two different sounding but complementary effect chains. When > playing this means you might "freeze a pad" with one hand while > playing arpeggio with the other, or combine a bass line with chord > vamps etc etc. > > The challenge to get on with this instrument is to rewire your brain > to work better in multitasking mode ;-)) Drummers, piano players or > harpists may have an advantage here. For me as a guitarist doubling on > wind instruments it took many months to reach the threshold where you > get both hands going fairly independently. > > Per > > -- -==-=-=- Tony --000e0cd32d18f64d4b049fdb7caa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
There's a new player on the tap guitar scene.
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On F= ri, Apr 1, 2011 at 6:05 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 9:42 = AM, Louie Angulo
<louie.angulo@googlemail.= com> wrote:
> hey Per i saw one of your stick videos cheers = man you are getting really good!
> can you give me some info about it? which one is it? where did you get=
> it and what did you pay for it?
> Ive checked out the warr guitars,i must say i like the looks better;-)=
> what are the differences in terms of playing are there any advantages<= br> > of that one or is it pure looks?

Most questions should be answered at www.stick.com.

Personally I started with a 12 stringed Grand Stick, but now I have
settled with a 12 stringed Stick Guitar, the SG-12 (yet no video up on
that one). It has a guitar length scale of 24 frets while the Grand
Stick has 36 frets. The smaller instrument fits me better both in
sound and shape, and I rarely need those ultra deep bass strings of
the Grand.

The Warr guitars are just too ugly for my taste. And they are too
expensive and too heavy as well. What I like with the Stick's design is that it is minimal. The stick body is just bare bones and the kind
of wood used hardly matters for the sound; you're getting the pure
sound of steel and strings. The upright, almost vertical, playing
position of the Stick gives both hands optimal access to the fretboard
and makes it easy and comfortable to play.

Finally, I really like the mirrored tuning in 4th on the guitar side
of the fretboard and in 5ths on the bass side. You can explore chord
voicings that aren't possible on many other instruments. Each
fretboard side has two pickups =A0and goes out through its own output. I set up my sound patches in pairs, so the melody and bass side go out
through two different sounding but complementary effect chains. When
playing this means you might "freeze a pad" with one hand while playing arpeggio with the other, or combine a bass line with chord
vamps etc etc.

The challenge to get on with this instrument is to rewire your brain
to work better in multitasking mode ;-)) Drummers, piano players or
harpists may have an advantage here. For me as a guitarist doubling on
wind instruments it took many months to reach the threshold where you
get both hands going fairly independently.

Per




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--000e0cd32d18f64d4b049fdb7caa-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 13:44:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E0D018349D; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 13:44:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 x-cr-hashedpuzzle: FwQ= AXg8 BIcQ BTTS BxW7 B9RW CE9S Csbs E/d/ FM9u GDPz H6Uq JSsc Jq6e Kl9I LCpx;1;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sosha1_v1;7;{F56F1F01-F68F-4456-A663-7C3ACE1D9C9B};YQBuAGQAeQBAADEAOAAwADAAZABpAGEAbAB3AG8AcgBkAC4AYwBvAG0A;Fri, 01 Apr 2011 13:44:27 GMT;UgBFADoAIABPAE0ARwAgAE8AVAA6ACAASABhAHIAbQBvAG4AaQBjACAAQwBhAHAAbwA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable x-cr-puzzleid: {F56F1F01-F68F-4456-A663-7C3ACE1D9C9B} Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: RE: OMG OT: Harmonic Capo Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 06:44:27 -0700 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8B561@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: <4D95AEFF.6040307@cruzio.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: OMG OT: Harmonic Capo Thread-Index: AcvwW0N//qM1JScjRz+UnknbKQpBMAAFt5Kw References: <4D95AEFF.6040307@cruzio.com> From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Apr 2011 13:44:52.0577 (UTC) FILETIME=[FA422D10:01CBF072] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108724 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 13:44:54 +0000 (UTC) That is funny, I can tell Rick is excited by the f word, he hardly uses it otherwise, lol. That, is a cool thing, just ordered two, and the CDs. I bet that guy is gonna freak out by the little spike in sales he gets from Rick, he will owe you one!! Rick, have you tried to use it also to hold down the string on the fret to make weird tunings, you could use two or three and get it the typical LD goal of complete almost unusability weirdality by having about four of them clamped all other the geetar!!! Like for a drop D tuning capoed to A, would it hold the strings down enough like a regular capo and leave the low E to be a drop "D" (actually E of course)? Andy o Still here, DT, not that easy to run me off, and I think I was the one that lured you out of lurkdom in the first place too lol!!! (I love making up words that you furrinners have to try to figure out if are real or not!!!) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 13:50:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E64F18349E; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 13:50:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <4D95AEFF.6040307@cruzio.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8B561@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: CHAIN -TAPE COLLECTIVE Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2011 09:50:36 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 68.162.168.166 In-Reply-To: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8B561@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33474-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CDBE8AE9841A09-656C-1DD@TSTMAIL-D09.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108725 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 13:50:56 +0000 (UTC) HAPPY BIRTHDAY C-T C!!!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 14:08:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCD8C18349C; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 14:08:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 489 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 01 Apr 2011 14:08:16 UTC Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 14:00:08 +0000 (UTC) From: Christophe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <1134136846.425109.1301666408322.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4D95AEFF.6040307@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: OMG OT: Harmonic Capo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_425108_1231289734.1301666408321" X-Originating-IP: [146.243.4.157] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.5_GA_2431.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/6.0.5_GA_2427.RHEL4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108726 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 14:08:16 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_425108_1231289734.1301666408321 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Rick, Thanks for the review! I've seen them advertised but have been wary as "novelty" items like his have a bad habit of disappointing I probably would have gotten one eventually in any case since it's not exactly a huge investment. With your glowing endorsement, though, I'm ordering one today! As I've been thinking about it I'm really keen to see how it will work out on a 12 string too. :-) Chris ------=_Part_425108_1231289734.1301666408321 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi Rick,

Thanks for the review!  I've seen them advertised but have been wary as "novelty" items like his have a bad habit of disappointing  I probably would have gotten one eventually in any case since it's not exactly a huge investment.  With your glowing endorsement, though, I'm ordering one today!  As I've been thinking about it I'm really keen to see how it will work out on a 12 string too.  :-)

Chris

------=_Part_425108_1231289734.1301666408321-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 15:10:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41822183453; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 15:10:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=lxAtLCxDyMzvNdZtyNZ1x52LUtgsa6vfjcxBs7F+8EI= c=1 sm=1 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=CNxbVC3+Q4TMjpjfeHDQxw==:17 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=5lFjbag6blAhhCunf3EA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=CNxbVC3+Q4TMjpjfeHDQxw==:117 Message-Id: <75C2B783-8B7C-4C6A-838E-80C5CDF22460@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <8CDBE8AE9841A09-656C-1DD@TSTMAIL-D09.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: CHAIN -TAPE COLLECTIVE Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 08:10:12 -0700 References: <4D95AEFF.6040307@cruzio.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8B561@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <8CDBE8AE9841A09-656C-1DD@TSTMAIL-D09.sysops.aol.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108727 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 15:10:14 +0000 (UTC) Yesssss!!! And, thanks to Jim Goodin's "Reuse Recycle" project a couple of years back, I finally got to be on one. How many years has that been for CT Michael? Best, Ted On Apr 1, 2011, at 6:50 AM, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > HAPPY BIRTHDAY C-T C!!!!! > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 15:38:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1634A18349C; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 15:38:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Sender: Catch All From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rapha=EBl_-_Mancing_Dolecules?= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--904930378 Subject: Re: Everyday Looper - A Looper for the iPhone/iPod Touch Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 17:38:20 +0200 In-Reply-To: <972820.75640.qm@web45911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <225f88f01001291525o6b149258te14cf58a07bd7bfb@mail.gmail.com> <9C6A27D96FC14122B43ACCE474B95897@ELUK1> <225f88f01001300732w10311b23w165909a99b65b192@mail.gmail.com> <225f88f01002140719y223da619h13c1035b697963c1@mail.gmail.com> <972820.75640.qm@web45911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <02F1481A-3ADB-4032-A79A-1B4833E079D9@mancingdolecules.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108728 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 15:38:26 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--904930378 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Eric :) ! It is possible to run the two apps at the same time, given that you have = enough RAM. ThumbJam and Everyday Looper behave in the same way, which = means that if loops are playing and you exit the app, the loops will = keep playing in the background. So you can run a loop in EDL and jam = over it with ThumbJam. But it's not possible to route output from an app to the input of an = other. That's not in the "Apple toolbox" available to developers. So you = can't record the ThumbJam part in EDL, unfortunately. Rapha=EBl Le 30 mars 2011 =E0 18:23, E Gross a =E9crit : > Hi Raphael, > =20 > I am intrigued by the possibility of running Everyday Looper, and = using ThumbJam as input -- will it be possible to run both at the same = time? (sorry but I don't own iPhone or Touch so don't really know how = they work). > =20 > Thanks, > Eric > =20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-1--904930378 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Eric :) !

It is possible to = run the two apps at the same time, given that you have enough = RAM. ThumbJam and Everyday Looper behave in the same way, = which means that if loops are playing and you exit the app, the loops = will keep playing in the background. So you can run a loop in EDL and = jam over it with ThumbJam.

But it's not = possible to route output from an app to the input of an other. That's = not in the "Apple toolbox" available to developers. So you can't record = the ThumbJam part in EDL, = unfortunately.

Rapha=EBl

= Le 30 mars 2011 =E0 18:23, E Gross a =E9crit :

Hi Raphael,
 
I am = intrigued by the possibility of running Everyday Looper, and using = ThumbJam as input -- will it be possible to run both at the same time? = (sorry but I don't own iPhone or Touch so don't really know how they = work).
 
Thanks,

= --Apple-Mail-1--904930378-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 16:07:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 945EC18349D; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 16:07:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D95F844.8080706@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2011 09:07:32 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: OMG OT: Harmonic Capo References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8B561@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8B561@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3YGoND.A.0gB.NhflNB@arsenic> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108729 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 16:07:41 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > That is funny, I can tell Rick is excited by the f word, he hardly uses > it otherwise, lol. Oh gosh am I that bad? > That, is a cool thing, just ordered two, and the CDs. I bet that guy is > gonna freak out by the little spike in sales he gets from Rick, he will > owe you one!! Hey, please tell the guy if you order them that I sent you: maybe he'll give me an endorsement deal: wait, a second, I already bought one (or my wife did), there's nothing he can give me for endorsing his product other than a second Lamborghini (and who wants one of those, with the exception of selling it and using the cash to buy Harmonic Capos for the entire population of very small third world countries?). > Rick, have you tried to use it also to hold down the string on the fret > to make weird tunings, you could use two or three and get it the typical > LD goal of complete almost unusability weirdality by having about four > of them clamped all other the geetar!!! Like for a drop D tuning capoed > to A, would it hold the strings down enough like a regular capo and > leave the low E to be a drop "D" (actually E of course)? Actually, unlike the third hand Capo (which does fret individual strings) this device doesn't change the tuning of one's guitar (I tried already)........it just allows one to play barre harmonics without using one's fretting hand at all, so I'm fairly certain that it wouldn't be efficacious to use two of them at once. I can't remember if I posted this earlier, but you can play 5th, 7th and 9th fret harmonics that will sound even though the 12th fret is always 'played'............the 9th fret harmonics are not as loud as is typical with finger barre harmonics, however, but the 5th and 7th ring out rather loudly. Gareth Whittock wrote: "Sounds very cool rick - make some recordings man!" And as far as recording things go, for some inexplicable reason, I have never reinstalled my computer based home recording studio after my horrible multiple C-drive failures at the time of the Looping Festival, so I don't have anything to record on. It's my own fault: I just haven't taken the time.......and I've also been really into playing four string acoustic instruments and been happy just being in the middle of a huge learning curve. I told my wife the other night, 'for the first time in my life, I feel like I am actually a guitarist' as opposed to having always played guitar as a sort of found sound instrumentalist and looper. That's a nice feeling. I've always been intimidated by the guitar.......it's nice to begin learning more in earnest at the age of 57. It's been a wonderful time but also a strange and difficult year since the Looping Festival ended............I've never been so burnt out as after this last one........it was so beautiful, but the most stressful one of all of them times two and it took me to Christmas to overcome it. On New Years day, I then promptly got sick for the first 6 weeks of the new year and then hit a horrible lull in my income coupled with really bizarre weather (last week, we had the heaviest rains I've ever experienced and flooding and yesterday it was 86 degrees in Santa Cruz in a bizarre heat wave. All through it, I managed to play tenor guitar, tenor banjo, baritone ukulele, mandolin, mountain dulcimer, strumstick and fretless electric guitar and bass every day. I also, paranthetically, made really major strides in my pool game and came in second last week in the first pro pool tournament I've ever entered. So it's been the best of times and it's been the worst of times as Charles Dickens has said. I'll get around to putting my studio back together again......honest, I will........lol From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 16:28:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 56E60183486; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 16:28:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FTMV1IdCWASKqnoqyOsfSfd8eaKZqEsnvfSR2hBluUI=; b=XHvtM20qZ3s1k8YKzj7LF9c0g8SpwIFueB7mBT/fXBSPJhBPDU43eIh4Rqgdz/762l T0wj/IjDwZz+fOU3C7tfRcbVxDKF7S/wemPSmi7P2SY4E9dHACC2i8rGrq3vgakFo/2q QKRofLgGfCWL9qtw4DeTScCkPDfiXa6QvyoRo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KthxaoTLzU3xM5Spx5ZBHYNCm1H4mMlbF9OwHTqesbYy//KWa2/oyk3fq4usJvNgXo YenXetFKceRx1Xd8rfCKqnRihDFsZTc4AXY474C6OtdwsKTeSNTbQNbFHB0/an5Wo4RZ +9L7JtKjfh/99CJeI2DLTS8W2SACbS0NdHdrg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D95F844.8080706@cruzio.com> References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8B561@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <4D95F844.8080706@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 09:28:54 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OMG OT: Harmonic Capo From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108730 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 16:28:56 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for the heads up Rick! Can't wait to get mine. BTW, let me know if you need anything to get your computer recording setup up and running, I'll often have extra drives, enclosures and audio interfaces lying around. On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Andy Owens wrote: >> >> That is funny, I can tell Rick is excited by the f word, he hardly uses >> it otherwise, lol. > > Oh gosh =A0am I that bad? >> >> That, is a cool thing, just ordered two, and the CDs. I bet that guy is >> gonna freak out by the little spike in sales he gets from Rick, he will >> owe you one!! > > Hey, =A0please tell the guy if you order them that I sent you: =A0 maybe = he'll > give me an endorsement deal: > wait, a second, =A0I already bought one (or my wife did), =A0there's noth= ing he > can give me for endorsing his product > other than a second Lamborghini (and who wants one of those, with the > exception of selling it and using the > cash to buy Harmonic Capos for the entire population of very small third > world countries?). >> >> Rick, have you tried to use it also to hold down the string on the fret >> to make weird tunings, you could use two or three and get it the typical >> LD goal of complete almost unusability weirdality by having about four >> of them clamped all other the geetar!!! Like for a drop D tuning capoed >> to A, would it hold the strings down enough like a regular capo and >> leave the low E to be a drop "D" (actually E of course)? > > Actually, unlike the third hand Capo (which does fret individual strings) > =A0this device doesn't > change the tuning of one's guitar (I tried already)........it just allows > one to play barre harmonics > without using one's fretting hand at all, so I'm fairly certain that it > wouldn't be efficacious to use > two of them at once. > > I can't remember if I posted this earlier, but you can play 5th, 7th and = 9th > fret harmonics that will > sound even though the 12th fret is always 'played'............the 9th fre= t > harmonics are not as loud > as is typical with finger barre harmonics, however, but the 5th and 7th r= ing > out rather loudly. > > Gareth Whittock wrote: > "Sounds very cool rick - make some recordings man!" > > And as far as recording things go, for some inexplicable reason, =A0I hav= e > never reinstalled my computer based > home recording studio after my horrible multiple C-drive failures at the > time of the Looping Festival, so I don't have anything > to record on. =A0 It's my own fault: =A0 I just haven't taken the time...= ....and > I've also been really into > playing four string acoustic instruments and been happy just being in the > middle of a huge learning > curve. =A0 =A0 I told my wife the other night, =A0'for the first time in = my life, > =A0I feel like I am actually a guitarist' > as opposed to having always played guitar as a sort of found sound > instrumentalist and looper. > That's a nice feeling. =A0 I've always been intimidated by the > guitar.......it's nice to begin learning more in earnest > at the age of 57. > > It's been a wonderful time but also a strange and difficult year since th= e > Looping Festival ended............I've never been so burnt out > as after this last one........it was so beautiful, but the most stressful > one of all of them > times two and it took me to Christmas to overcome it. =A0 =A0On New Years= day, I > then promptly got sick for the first > 6 weeks of the new year and then hit a horrible lull in my income coupled > with really bizarre > weather (last week, we had the heaviest rains I've ever experienced and > flooding and yesterday > it was 86 degrees in Santa Cruz in a bizarre heat wave. =A0 All through i= t, =A0I > managed to play > tenor guitar, tenor banjo, baritone ukulele, mandolin, mountain dulcimer, > strumstick and fretless > electric guitar and bass every day. =A0 =A0I also, paranthetically, =A0ma= de really > major strides in my pool game > and came in second last week in the first pro pool tournament I've ever > entered. > > So it's been the best of times and it's been the worst of times as Charle= s > Dickens has said. > > I'll get around to putting my studio back together again......honest, I > will........lol > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 16:46:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB1B218349D; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 16:46:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_32d0f850-5313-4a96-87bc-90aa5f654021_" X-Originating-IP: [86.153.219.165] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: OMG OT: Harmonic Capo Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 16:46:18 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4D95F844.8080706@cruzio.com> References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8B561@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net>,<4D95F844.8080706@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Apr 2011 16:46:18.0799 (UTC) FILETIME=[52F3D3F0:01CBF08C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108731 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 16:46:20 +0000 (UTC) --_32d0f850-5313-4a96-87bc-90aa5f654021_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Strange times indeed Rick - the world over.. it's not just weird in Santa C= ruz=2C for a change =3B-) peace G > It's been a wonderful time but also a strange and difficult year since=20 > the Looping Festival ended............I've never been so burnt out > as after this last one........it was so beautiful=2C but the most=20 > stressful one of all of them > times two and it took me to Christmas to overcome it. On New Years=20 > day=2C I then promptly got sick for the first > 6 weeks of the new year and then hit a horrible lull in my income=20 > coupled with really bizarre > weather (last week=2C we had the heaviest rains I've ever experienced and= =20 > flooding and yesterday > it was 86 degrees in Santa Cruz in a bizarre heat wave. All through=20 > it=2C I managed to play > tenor guitar=2C tenor banjo=2C baritone ukulele=2C mandolin=2C mountain=20 > dulcimer=2C strumstick and fretless > electric guitar and bass every day. I also=2C paranthetically=2C made= =20 > really major strides in my pool game > and came in second last week in the first pro pool tournament I've ever=20 > entered. >=20 > So it's been the best of times and it's been the worst of times as=20 > Charles Dickens has said. >=20 > I'll get around to putting my studio back together again......honest=2C I= =20 > will........lol >=20 = --_32d0f850-5313-4a96-87bc-90aa5f654021_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Strange times indeed Rick - the world over.. it's not just weird in San= ta Cruz=2C for a change =3B-)

peace

G


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= --_32d0f850-5313-4a96-87bc-90aa5f654021_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 16:51:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7089D18349C; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 16:51:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=SafQ5R5H/j+7IncciXv9eI/Z05SL7yWaFYCURFxidTpcKUAlhQPcFUG/EHhg6+Dn; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4D95F844.8080706@cruzio.com> References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8B561@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.ne t> <4D95F844.8080706@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 12:51:18 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: RE: OMG OT: Harmonic Capo Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79792414eb99ab80c12c0d7aa09b6ce0a7350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108732 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 16:51:26 +0000 (UTC) >On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Rick Walker wrote: >> >Actually, unlike the third hand Capo (which does fret individual >strings) this device doesn't >change the tuning of one's guitar (I tried already)........it just >allows one to play barre harmonics >without using one's fretting hand at all, so I'm fairly certain that >it wouldn't be efficacious to use >two of them at once. Are you kidding? The first thing I thought was to put two on the neck, on at the 12th fret, one at the 7th and adjust each capo to touch only certain strings depending on the harmonic desired...! -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 17:06:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65F5E18349E; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 17:06:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1301677579; bh=gmCOSKxgc4c+70bXxE4EjnFBa6QKitoWjtDhztFbCj8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=g+bLIo1TuRe5cf2NZNNrSJrFjV2PO5rXiyXYLy8GVzevew8eWLxr/JSDi5dgrSp7JDFIGm7romGY+yoKrD0eerje44mJ2B1fAp9xXeGwqOrEVX3622JUhAiwyUC+6VZGZ8iECzJwaa+48cVHzBAUz24isyoi8IYstshhUmGI0Sg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YODDQUsckuBICzRShX+WjXOT3u4qDTGmyYJWS9R9wfWnKojL+dviOW032xQ3vpFEEVKKe8LVbmLcYIQ4iBvvc+6DTkn511CzpHfDRZ/fKkwUEWHLPCRCgOoQ5225tHhVVQWr5+EPGlp6KFrTF1vL34pF5MxeJ7qwgV8a6BGRdYs=; Message-ID: <69583.61920.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: bktPCaEVM1naYeWFcv83H5_hBNBSAoG84zTjqLQvqFVFAKM KUC_rseU.oTEHPh3SvQnSMihSIMDa_OM7pZWNvt2NOw3ObbzsHHNp9a2skxk DQQMe2x9qupmoJKeDOAO7Q7DwE6m8UnWTWwtSkkD48xb7lIpqN2tZS._61Lg 1pHbkQt1isozIQ_l2smABiug3eE7bjI0tEFsc.CwPNkVWTtipnhuIa9YGpdf Q9mhXlJt1uACW02vbOWrjzOKwybsuveOC5N8koWoPPLuuFbb3XU3ktmMEZ1R JvbG9N.SaqLGwONj2rarxeiRhGxUALVi6mC06nqOFjASWhV7XkVei.yfKKXg 0J_r0Hlg.EvIE0MztStNz4QHhi_UkkoxRXMSiYdS.YHBzpw09xVosSVI- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/12.0.2 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 10:06:18 -0700 (PDT) From: tim echols Subject: OT support for DAWs To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108733 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 17:06:20 +0000 (UTC) i am having some problems getting my new computer set up with pro tools. i haven't the money at present to purchase pro tools 9.0, but i went ahead when i had the money and got a computer that was compatible, in part because pro tools actually had support staff that helped me to optimize the laptop i had been using for their product, by doing online diagnostics while talking to me by phone. i told him of my future plans to get the computer i now have, and he said he would hold the case open for me. admittedly, this was in december. when i went back, now that it is offseason and i have the time to get the whole system of computer, a delta 1010 and pro tools working together, i am blocked from support by a paywall. and it is not like pro tools is working and i just wantto optimize-- i have no sound through pro tools, can't rewire reason properly as a plug in, can't access but 2 of the 8 inouts on the delta 1010, and my sound just playing files suffers randomly after i use pro tools upon random startups afterwards. at this point i am seriously regretting getting my computer specifically because my experience with support was so positive at pro tools. they are charging PER INCIDENT at a rate of $30 for the level i am at now-- i didn't even look up the rates for pro tools 9.0. so, does anyone have experience with the support of other DAWs? i am looking around after this incident, because i will be in the market this summer, and would like to know how other companies compare vis a vis support. pro tools 9.0 comes with a 30 day code for support, but i will be at the peak of my job when i can afford to buy it, so if i am going to have to wait until next year at this time to install it when i have both money and time, i am gong to compare the support of other DAWs in my search for a potential new platform. so, please-- i would like to hear what platform people use and about their experiences (or lack thereof) with support. it seems a sea change in policy at pro tools-- like they have decided to take the attitude that it is better to "make money off of repairs" rather than make a good product and support it. yes, i know how much support costs a company. i just want to hear other people's experiences. since this is a recording question, not a looping question, i labeled it off topic. time From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 17:08:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8697183453; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 17:08:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=E2ba9J4W9jc0soLSpHfAvZUzxoYGgHxThNKgrRpySR0=; b=L83x+jmj2qCFseM9MnQ9z7FOl4LjdLbiOtTiuqFewMvTiS1tT8IeEo17tSWr/8XLzp 4Vqb84kTkgkx7RdsQ0tIrL9R6BDpvrPyAmVsM6f/DRo9KydFA7Wxn3zYL5qvdYM7bynx m3DtTI6MubE3uwivXtkigBSpszvZbumf37evQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=JYjQhgVDceyC1EzXcoXtzQ//k33GDETyHM3Fo3cSoQxspNsrce77wPWhtQdM2KH760 wKAjbH1JVofZ/nWOn9AX3Q4fTMvXG4H+4T2ADzgHf/WZMlmLEDG/ER0fZTvdWjCQS29E NizkA3AKjtGtpHmjAmY458J+EoNtvN2Pljcyc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 10:07:59 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: OT Fretless makers From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108734 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 17:08:01 +0000 (UTC) Hello again, So I've pulled the frets on my guitar and filled in the frets with epoxy. As soon as it dries I'll be sanding them down and lowering the nut. My question to all you DIYers who may have done this yourself, did you leave the fretboard as is after you sanded the frets down again or did you cover the neck in epoxy and smooth that down? I've seen it both ways and I thought I'd get opinions from this august body of experimenters. Thanks, Kevin --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 17:18:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC65A183453; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 17:18:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=v4qV/4lkuZbuHsmuIGkk7R6JI/cBVCZg3+LaOEdvFIU=; b=C81wCA4/i3iVoUtnTeIyDhctVk+/8jfKDlmFGxw1k+5TnsCRZ7knGLNhDFYEOVKk3n fw6uRZrrN4hRaJyq957ln2sXOuXSJKAqm8Rv8dNLKAtRMfkbr6x/ZABP89FkHRbtYOfl n2HkuRrbN4bYwAM/W90qbFK4rgQoOan6tIX6A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=WxSh23Y0fMeQF8g1ZDK2zwQit9+apfYSOwbKq3YA1kuwP1hqDamycp3I4kjo9gbCv0 VgPyPiD7M22SD8ZWdC0a1ivmE3vJSAmRwuEyc1TNSBlMPpcJGBWkDsaOgCmNTGyz60C4 rSTNxsiqNzGCfvq8BCK+wBRIuNNojQPPymkyQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <69583.61920.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <69583.61920.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 13:18:43 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT support for DAWs From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151748dfbe1641c8049fde9a12 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108735 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 17:18:45 +0000 (UTC) --00151748dfbe1641c8049fde9a12 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I would absolutely take a look at Reaper http://www.reaper.fm/ pricing is great, free demo (no limited functionality) forever. Support is through their forum and is very good (and free!) On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 1:06 PM, tim echols wrote: > i am having some problems getting my new computer set up with pro tools. > i haven't the money at present to purchase pro tools 9.0, but i went ahead > when i had the money and got a computer that was compatible, in part because > pro tools actually had support staff that helped me to optimize the laptop i > had been using for their product, by doing online diagnostics while talking > to me by phone. i told him of my future plans to get the computer i now > have, and he said he would hold the case open for me. admittedly, this was > in december. when i went back, now that it is offseason and i have the time > to get the whole system of computer, a delta 1010 and pro tools working > together, i am blocked from support by a paywall. and it is not like pro > tools is working and i just wantto optimize-- i have no sound through pro > tools, can't rewire reason properly as a plug in, can't access but 2 of the > 8 inouts on the delta 1010, and my sound just playing files > suffers randomly after i use pro tools upon random startups afterwards. > at this point i am seriously regretting getting my computer specifically > because my experience with support was so positive at pro tools. they are > charging PER INCIDENT at a rate of $30 for the level i am at now-- i didn't > even look up the rates for pro tools 9.0. > so, does anyone have experience with the support of other DAWs? i am > looking around after this incident, because i will be in the market this > summer, and would like to know how other companies compare vis a vis > support. pro tools 9.0 comes with a 30 day code for support, but i will be > at the peak of my job when i can afford to buy it, so if i am going to have > to wait until next year at this time to install it when i have both money > and time, i am gong to compare the support of other DAWs in my search for a > potential new platform. so, please-- i would like to hear what platform > people use and about their experiences (or lack thereof) with support. it > seems a sea change in policy at pro tools-- like they have decided to take > the attitude that it is better to "make money off of repairs" rather than > make a good product and support it. yes, i know how much support costs a > company. i just want to hear other people's experiences. since this is a > recording question, not a looping question, i labeled it off topic. > > > time > > > > > -- -==-=-=- Tony --00151748dfbe1641c8049fde9a12 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I would absolutely take a look at Reaper http://www.reaper.fm/
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pricing is great, fr= ee demo (no limited functionality) forever.=A0 Support is through their for= um and is very good (and free!)
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On Fri, Apr = 1, 2011 at 1:06 PM, tim echols <eekamouse67@yahoo.com> wrote:
=A0 =A0i am having some problems getting my new computer set up with pro t= ools. =A0i haven't the money at present to purchase pro tools 9.0, but = i went ahead when i had the money and got a computer that was compatible, i= n part because pro tools actually had support staff that helped me to optim= ize the laptop i had been using for their product, by doing online diagnost= ics while talking to me by phone. =A0i told him of my future plans to get t= he computer i now have, and he said he would hold the case open for me. =A0= admittedly, this was in december. =A0when i went back, now that it is offse= ason and i have the time to get the whole system of computer, a delta 1010 = and pro tools working together, i am blocked from support by a paywall. =A0= and it is not like pro tools is working and i just wantto optimize-- =A0i h= ave no sound through pro tools, can't rewire reason properly as a plug = in, can't access but 2 of the 8 inouts on the delta 1010, and my sound = just playing files
=A0suffers randomly after i use pro tools upon random startups afterwards. = =A0at this point i am seriously regretting getting my computer specifically= because my experience with support was so positive at pro tools. =A0they a= re charging PER INCIDENT at a rate of $30 for the level i am at now-- =A0i = didn't even look up the rates for pro tools 9.0.
=A0 =A0 so, does anyone have experience with the support of other DAWs? i = am looking around after this incident, because i will be in the market this= summer, and would like to know how other companies compare vis a vis suppo= rt. =A0pro tools 9.0 comes with a 30 day code for support, but i will be at= the peak of my job when i can afford to buy it, so if i am going to have t= o wait until next year at this time to install it when i have both money an= d time, i am gong to compare the support of other DAWs in my search for a p= otential new platform. =A0so, please-- i would like to hear what platform p= eople use and about their experiences (or lack thereof) with support. =A0it= seems a sea change in policy at pro tools-- =A0like they have decided to t= ake the attitude that it is better to "make money off of repairs"= rather than make a good product and support it. =A0yes, i know how much su= pport costs a company. =A0i just want to hear other people's experience= s. =A0since this is a
=A0recording question, not a looping question, i labeled it off topic.


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--00151748dfbe1641c8049fde9a12-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 17:23:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E6EFB1834A0; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 17:23:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <899A261D23DC4F02AB1458A1ACCD8BCE@ELUK1> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <69583.61920.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: OT support for DAWs Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 18:23:40 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01CBF099.ED14FFB0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3508.1109 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3508.1109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108736 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 17:23:34 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01CBF099.ED14FFB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I=E2=80=99ll second that on Reaper. I=E2=80=99ve had no problems with = it in 32-bit or 64-bit Windows 7. Also I can=E2=80=99t recommend FL = Studio enough. From: Tony K=20 Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 6:18 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Subject: Re: OT support for DAWs I would absolutely take a look at Reaper http://www.reaper.fm/ pricing is great, free demo (no limited functionality) forever. Support = is through their forum and is very good (and free!) =20 On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 1:06 PM, tim echols = wrote: i am having some problems getting my new computer set up with pro = tools. i haven't the money at present to purchase pro tools 9.0, but i = went ahead when i had the money and got a computer that was compatible, = in part because pro tools actually had support staff that helped me to = optimize the laptop i had been using for their product, by doing online = diagnostics while talking to me by phone. i told him of my future plans = to get the computer i now have, and he said he would hold the case open = for me. admittedly, this was in december. when i went back, now that = it is offseason and i have the time to get the whole system of computer, = a delta 1010 and pro tools working together, i am blocked from support = by a paywall. and it is not like pro tools is working and i just wantto = optimize-- i have no sound through pro tools, can't rewire reason = properly as a plug in, can't access but 2 of the 8 inouts on the delta = 1010, and my sound just playing files suffers randomly after i use pro tools upon random startups = afterwards. at this point i am seriously regretting getting my computer = specifically because my experience with support was so positive at pro = tools. they are charging PER INCIDENT at a rate of $30 for the level i = am at now-- i didn't even look up the rates for pro tools 9.0. so, does anyone have experience with the support of other DAWs? i = am looking around after this incident, because i will be in the market = this summer, and would like to know how other companies compare vis a = vis support. pro tools 9.0 comes with a 30 day code for support, but i = will be at the peak of my job when i can afford to buy it, so if i am = going to have to wait until next year at this time to install it when i = have both money and time, i am gong to compare the support of other DAWs = in my search for a potential new platform. so, please-- i would like to = hear what platform people use and about their experiences (or lack = thereof) with support. it seems a sea change in policy at pro tools-- = like they have decided to take the attitude that it is better to "make = money off of repairs" rather than make a good product and support it. = yes, i know how much support costs a company. i just want to hear other = people's experiences. since this is a recording question, not a looping question, i labeled it off topic. time --=20 -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D-=20 Tony ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01CBF099.ED14FFB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I=E2=80=99ll second that on Reaper.  I=E2=80=99ve had no = problems with it in 32-bit or=20 64-bit Windows 7.  Also I can=E2=80=99t recommend FL Studio = enough.
 
From: Tony K
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: OT support for DAWs
 
I would absolutely take a look at Reaper http://www.reaper.fm/
 
pricing is great, free demo (no limited functionality) = forever. =20 Support is through their forum and is very good (and free!)
 


 
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 1:06 PM, tim echols = <eekamouse67@yahoo.com>=20 wrote:
   i am having some problems getting my = new=20 computer set up with pro tools.  i haven't the money at present = to=20 purchase pro tools 9.0, but i went ahead when i had the money and got = a=20 computer that was compatible, in part because pro tools actually had = support=20 staff that helped me to optimize the laptop i had been using for their = product, by doing online diagnostics while talking to me by = phone.  i=20 told him of my future plans to get the computer i now have, and he = said he=20 would hold the case open for me.  admittedly, this was in = december. =20 when i went back, now that it is offseason and i have the time to get = the=20 whole system of computer, a delta 1010 and pro tools working together, = i am=20 blocked from support by a paywall.  and it is not like pro tools = is=20 working and i just wantto optimize--  i have no sound through pro = tools,=20 can't rewire reason properly as a plug in, can't access but 2 of the 8 = inouts=20 on the delta 1010, and my sound just playing files
suffers randomly = after i=20 use pro tools upon random startups afterwards.  at this point i = am=20 seriously regretting getting my computer specifically because my = experience=20 with support was so positive at pro tools.  they are charging PER = INCIDENT at a rate of $30 for the level i am at now--  i didn't = even look=20 up the rates for pro tools 9.0.
    so, does anyone = have=20 experience with the support of other DAWs? i am looking around after = this=20 incident, because i will be in the market this summer, and would like = to know=20 how other companies compare vis a vis support.  pro tools 9.0 = comes with=20 a 30 day code for support, but i will be at the peak of my job when i = can=20 afford to buy it, so if i am going to have to wait until next year at = this=20 time to install it when i have both money and time, i am gong to = compare the=20 support of other DAWs in my search for a potential new platform.  = so,=20 please-- i would like to hear what platform people use and about their = experiences (or lack thereof) with support.  it seems a sea = change in=20 policy at pro tools--  like they have decided to take the = attitude that=20 it is better to "make money off of repairs" rather than make a good = product=20 and support it.  yes, i know how much support costs a = company.  i=20 just want to hear other people's experiences.  since this is=20 a
recording question, not a looping question, i labeled it off=20 topic.


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------=_NextPart_000_0023_01CBF099.ED14FFB0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 18:10:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 491BA18349D; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 18:10:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D96150B.3000804@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2011 11:10:19 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Creative Alternative Tools for Guitar Looping Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108737 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 18:10:29 +0000 (UTC) Speaking of cool guitar tools, like the 'Harmonics Capo' here's a few that that I really like and have used a lot. (what are some others?) _The 'Third Hand Capo'_ allows one to capo individual strings for interesting and quick 'altered tunings' _http://www.google.com/products/catalog?client=safari&rls=en&q=third+hand+capo&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=3425282320810705673&sa=X&ei=5QmWTdyzMazOiALF_OmcCQ&ved=0CE0Q8wIwAw#ps-sellers_ Only $13........this is a device that you could use multiples of for interesting tunings, although, in the long run, I think I prefer just rapidly retuning the guitar, manually. _The 'Piranha Bow'_ allows a person's strumming hand to have the texture of a bow. Fantastic for rapid rhythmic work. _http://www.piranhaguitarbow.com/_ At $40, there not cheap, but he used to have a deal where he'd give you three if you bought two......don't know if he still honors that deal (I bought them for $25 at the time) but it's cool to get three people to go in on a buy and two of them played at once on an open tuned or lap steel guitar produces some very hip results _'Suzuki Method 16th scale Violin Bows'_ http://www.google.com/products/catalog?client=safari&rls=en&q=1/16th+violin+bows&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=10589079992227454761&sa=X&ei=DRCWTfCpEKXkiALdrJTgCA&ved=0CEcQ8wIwBA#ps-sellers At $19, these miniature bows are fantastic for playing electric guitar. I've had a lot of interesting results by using an open tuning on a guitar and then using two of them, one in each hand. You can bow rhythmically close to the bridge with your right hand and bow slowly over Barre Harmonics with the left hand to create really beautiful textures. Because the electric guitar neck is flat , one has three different options for playing 1) bass lines on the lowest string 2) melodies on the highest string 3) full chords by playing across the whole fretboard _'Vegetable Brushes'_ These come in various colors and various degrees of stiffness to provide alternate strumming textures (not unlike lightly brushing over the strings with the tips of one's fingers) My wife hipped me to this approach by using a ball point pen or a drum stick to rake over the strings to provide new 'rubato' textures for strumming.................it makes 'smears' of sound instead of really articulate rhythms. _'This Rad Pick that my brother gave me years ago'_ that has four gradiated plastic picks on one side and three on the other so that every time you pick the guitar, it has the effect of a 'flam' of four individual picked sounds together...... .......like an ersatz 48 string guitar effect. Not sure what it's called, though. _'The Jellyfish Pick'_ http://www.jellifish.com/techniques/videos/bow-4-qt.html At $12 a cool pick with multiple steel rods that allows for picking or mild bowing techniques _ 'Little Easter Island Tiki Head Blue Plastic Martini Stirrers'_ fantastically balanced to be able to play a prepared or open tuned lapsteel guitar like a hammer dulcimer. Awesome because they can be used as a tiny slide as well as a tiny hammers. _'Clitoral Vibrators or Egg Vibrators'_ especially if you can find the kind that have a short chord with a remote speed control. You just turn it on, let it dangle on a lap steel or prepared guitar and then fuck with the speed............very nice random stuff occurs. _"An Multiple Allen Wrench Plectrum"_ This was made famous by Thom Morello of Rage Against the Machine.......you space the Allen wrenches out and use them as a 'flamming' plectrum. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 18:13:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E50F118344B; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 18:13:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_aa9e63d5-af3d-40d0-b2cf-da2aa2baba78_" X-Originating-IP: [170.104.174.208] From: Jeremy devros To: Subject: RE: OMG OT: Harmonic Capo + Zoe Keating Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 11:13:53 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4D95AEFF.6040307@cruzio.com> References: ,<4D95AEFF.6040307@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Apr 2011 18:13:54.0123 (UTC) FILETIME=[8F5EA1B0:01CBF098] Resent-Message-ID: <7TnJSB.A.-zE.jXhlNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108738 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 18:13:55 +0000 (UTC) --_aa9e63d5-af3d-40d0-b2cf-da2aa2baba78_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable SUPER COOL capo gizmo!=20 Saw Zoe Keating last night here in Portland --AMazing show! Thank you=2C Zo= e for coming to town! Even my normally cynical 19 yo enjoyed it! I really a= ppreciated your words about "Optimism" ! Peace J.D.Devros =20 > Date: Fri=2C 1 Apr 2011 03:54:55 -0700 > From: looppool@cruzio.com > CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: OMG OT: Harmonic Capo > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Hey all you looping guitar players=2C my wife just gave me the coolest=20 > fucking late Christmas present > that I've ever received: It's going to have a huge impact on some of my=20 > guitar playing. >=20 > It's called the Harmonic Capo (made by Bob Kilgore:=20 > http://www.weaseltrap.com/ ) >=20 > It is a capo that you place on the 12th fret of an electric guitar that=20 > has 6 individual > rubber stoppers whose height (and width) from above the fretboard can be= =20 > individually adjusted. >=20 > Essentially=2C what it does is play continual 12th fret Barre chord=20 > harmonics. >=20 > Now=2C that is pretty cool by itself=2C but the truly groovy addition to= =20 > this concept is that it is designed so that if you actually fret any=20 > string either > in back or in front of the capo=2C the strength height is lowered enough= =20 > so that the harmonic action > of the capo is disengaged and a normal note sounds (allowing for normal=20 > melodies and/or chords to be played) >=20 > What is so infinitely cool (at least to me who is not a guitarist but=20 > plays one on TV) > is that you can tune the guitar like a zither........in other words=2C=20 > you can tune to 6 scalar > notes (or your hearts content) and always be able to play harmonics in=20 > this scale whilst > simultaneously playing leads as you strum or arpeggiate the harmonics. >=20 > I set it up on my Fretless Strat tonight and just tuned my guitar to an=20 > interesting Arabic Maqam > and then could alternate between playing bass lines on the lowest string= =20 > (tonic) and melodies > on all the other strings. >=20 > Just goofing around with my M9 earlier tonight=2C I was able to use=20 > double and half speeds to create three octaves of harmonic parts > and then solo over the resultant chimey 'soup' With all the harmonics=20 > singing=2C I was able to play my fretless guitar with my eyes closed=2C > sliding in and out of consonance..........it's a really beautiful effect. >=20 > My wife is amazing and I'm so happy that we had to wait to give each=20 > other Christmas months later than normal. >=20 > Woohoooo!!!! I'm psyced! >=20 > rick walker >=20 = --_aa9e63d5-af3d-40d0-b2cf-da2aa2baba78_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable SUPER COOL capo gizmo!
Saw Zoe Keating last night here in Portland --AMazing show! Thank you=2C Zo= e for coming to town! Even my normally cynical 19 yo enjoyed it! I really a= ppreciated your words about "Optimism" !
Peace
J.D.Devros
 =3B
>=3B Date: Fri=2C 1 Apr 2011 03:54:55 -0700
>=3B From: looppool@cruz= io.com
>=3B CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B Subject:= OMG OT: Harmonic Capo
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>=3B
>=3B Hey all you looping guitar players=2C my wife just gave = me the coolest
>=3B fucking late Christmas present
>=3B that I'v= e ever received: It's going to have a huge impact on some of my
>=3B = guitar playing.
>=3B
>=3B It's called the Harmonic Capo (made by= Bob Kilgore:
>=3B http://www.weaseltrap.com/ )
>=3B
>=3B = It is a capo that you place on the 12th fret of an electric guitar that >=3B has 6 individual
>=3B rubber stoppers whose height (and width)= from above the fretboard can be
>=3B individually adjusted.
>= =3B
>=3B Essentially=2C what it does is play continual 12th fret Barr= e chord
>=3B harmonics.
>=3B
>=3B Now=2C that is pretty co= ol by itself=2C but the truly groovy addition to
>=3B this concept is= that it is designed so that if you actually fret any
>=3B string eit= her
>=3B in back or in front of the capo=2C the strength height is low= ered enough
>=3B so that the harmonic action
>=3B of the capo is= disengaged and a normal note sounds (allowing for normal
>=3B melodi= es and/or chords to be played)
>=3B
>=3B What is so infinitely c= ool (at least to me who is not a guitarist but
>=3B plays one on TV)<= BR>>=3B is that you can tune the guitar like a zither........in other wor= ds=2C
>=3B you can tune to 6 scalar
>=3B notes (or your hearts c= ontent) and always be able to play harmonics in
>=3B this scale whils= t
>=3B simultaneously playing leads as you strum or arpeggiate the har= monics.
>=3B
>=3B I set it up on my Fretless Strat tonight and j= ust tuned my guitar to an
>=3B interesting Arabic Maqam
>=3B and= then could alternate between playing bass lines on the lowest string
&= gt=3B (tonic) and melodies
>=3B on all the other strings.
>=3B >=3B Just goofing around with my M9 earlier tonight=2C I was able to us= e
>=3B double and half speeds to create three octaves of harmonic par= ts
>=3B and then solo over the resultant chimey 'soup' With all the ha= rmonics
>=3B singing=2C I was able to play my fretless guitar with my= eyes closed=2C
>=3B sliding in and out of consonance..........it's a = really beautiful effect.
>=3B
>=3B My wife is amazing and I'm so= happy that we had to wait to give each
>=3B other Christmas months l= ater than normal.
>=3B
>=3B Woohoooo!!!! I'm psyced!
>=3B <= BR>>=3B rick walker
>=3B
= --_aa9e63d5-af3d-40d0-b2cf-da2aa2baba78_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 18:15:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC01A18349D; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 18:15:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D96164F.7060700@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2011 11:15:43 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christophe CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: OMG OT: Harmonic Capo References: <1134136846.425109.1301666408322.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <1134136846.425109.1301666408322.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108739 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 18:15:50 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Christophe wrote: > Hi Rick, > > Thanks for the review! I've seen them advertised but have been wary > as "novelty" items like his have a bad habit of disappointing I > probably would have gotten one eventually in any case since it's not > exactly a huge investment. With your glowing endorsement, though, I'm > ordering one today! As I've been thinking about it I'm really keen to > see how it will work out on a 12 string too. :-) It the individual black rubber 'capos' are probably not large enough to fit on a 12 string, but I'll try it out later today and let you know. rick > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 18:16:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA50B18349D; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 18:16:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Y2SXzXw2c0vQDFrktSi7zdaap5pmuIx5junxhO7AnPA=; b=ga6Hfw5NPcQ0JYMDmfCAdQj2NCQXwdR/M/jaxh5BEQK+KEjRRIToTWRSZuo81JqWv1 farItHtHkL+aV4tf0d9iCbgbf9VlsoxVNMaUJiCfqDRxA23aM5pPJlSP0KCIfj0fj2C3 0X/wp09Jg2wek+jX95CuiTgjpIyc62F3X3bd4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tcb1iYnZEIB/QXSZFuUltvC/JTrkOYS5gLtMiXIl45RZrWCXxQgd59aHAygAi2VO/X kbw7KQvM9bmGMmGknywHrLW2ozFTnADS/OwARv4oBYYZIM3X1bWz+nyo3h8waF8UKYm/ m5uNOoa0V8LWKWfZUdsraLjmp9i1rlHj6MF0w= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D949E2E.7040902@googlemail.com> <910180C7-607F-43F2-A201-622B74225CB6@mac.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8B45D@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 20:16:35 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A while back..... From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108740 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 18:16:37 +0000 (UTC) sorry im realising that i got the models completely confused,i thoguth this was the trey gunn model http://www.gearwire.com/touchguitars-8string.html this is the one i meant and is actually not a bad looking guitar wow this is develoed by Markus Reuter? the website doesnt specify what they cost,anybody know more info? On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Tony K wrote: > There's a new player on the tap guitar scene. > > http://www.touchguitars.com/ > > > > On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 6:05 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Louie Angulo >> wrote: >> > hey Per i saw one of your stick videos cheers man you are getting real= ly >> > good! >> > can you give me some info about it? which one is it? where did you get >> > it and what did you pay for it? >> > Ive checked out the warr guitars,i must say i like the looks better;-) >> > what are the differences in terms of playing are there any advantages >> > of that one or is it pure looks? >> >> Most questions should be answered at www.stick.com. >> >> Personally I started with a 12 stringed Grand Stick, but now I have >> settled with a 12 stringed Stick Guitar, the SG-12 (yet no video up on >> that one). It has a guitar length scale of 24 frets while the Grand >> Stick has 36 frets. The smaller instrument fits me better both in >> sound and shape, and I rarely need those ultra deep bass strings of >> the Grand. >> >> The Warr guitars are just too ugly for my taste. And they are too >> expensive and too heavy as well. What I like with the Stick's design >> is that it is minimal. The stick body is just bare bones and the kind >> of wood used hardly matters for the sound; you're getting the pure >> sound of steel and strings. The upright, almost vertical, playing >> position of the Stick gives both hands optimal access to the fretboard >> and makes it easy and comfortable to play. >> >> Finally, I really like the mirrored tuning in 4th on the guitar side >> of the fretboard and in 5ths on the bass side. You can explore chord >> voicings that aren't possible on many other instruments. Each >> fretboard side has two pickups =A0and goes out through its own output. I >> set up my sound patches in pairs, so the melody and bass side go out >> through two different sounding but complementary effect chains. When >> playing this means you might "freeze a pad" with one hand while >> playing arpeggio with the other, or combine a bass line with chord >> vamps etc etc. >> >> The challenge to get on with this instrument is to rewire your brain >> to work better in multitasking mode ;-)) Drummers, piano players or >> harpists may have an advantage here. For me as a guitarist doubling on >> wind instruments it took many months to reach the threshold where you >> get both hands going fairly independently. >> >> Per >> > > > > -- > -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- > Tony > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 18:17:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 995E018349D; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 18:17:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D9616A9.1010003@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2011 11:17:13 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Art Simon CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: OMG OT: Harmonic Capo References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108741 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 18:17:21 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Art Simon wrote: > Thanks for the heads up Rick! Can't wait to get mine. > > BTW, let me know if you need anything to get your computer recording > setup up and running, I'll often have extra drives, enclosures and > audio interfaces lying around. You are such a sweetheart, Art! Thanks for your generous offer. I think I'm covered.......I went out and bought a slew of big hard drives so that I never have backup woes again. Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 18:17:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A55501834A4; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 18:17:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LOBA/PWkVgdGyh5r1PR83bGNWsL26MArtMquq/5B2Y4=; b=RTUx12dBXzMaEXylCwmr0GtoPz6FV1JthBrw3rQdluqeuAkwkF2W25A0HcHd+v1g2M w3RXSUNGKjSNHvYb/DU1I2uBQ0g3twtj48VeEIh59SqJe+KK27FTvoEmhmWXg0Z+vZT5 aZAw5MvDLftbj8hEN5zIiMUZWHVbDU9JNQR3U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=W/O1TLVKsbYJ8DlDmUqjivjU/8m8YvG8wsj3GD6Hvl6Re1/QTolrAogvDI01RMxImx 3ReiipJYj1z7VjqBwicKoi71e5XOd5UjaVcL9y9J60eMAYbtneFNsVCLy11nhv5B0ooq lxbsKIYWioeSpijh8lEz5LuKCe0J+Elo3jKQE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D96150B.3000804@cruzio.com> References: <4D96150B.3000804@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 11:17:25 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Creative Alternative Tools for Guitar Looping From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108742 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 18:17:27 +0000 (UTC) Tom Carter of charalambides and others played lap steel with large pieces of sidewalk chalk, scraping them off on the strings as he went. Also, Nels Cline kept a large metal coil spring in his back pocket for more string scrapes last time I saw him. Just to add more to the list. And don't forget alligator clips on the strings and chopstick in between them (for odd whammy bar effects are various intervals) Kevin On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > > Speaking of cool guitar tools, like the 'Harmonics Capo' > here's a few that that I really like and have used a lot. > (what are some others?) > > > _The 'Third Hand Capo'_ > allows one to capo individual strings for interesting and quick 'altered > tunings' > > _http://www.google.com/products/catalog?client=3Dsafari&rls=3Den&q=3Dthir= d+hand+capo&oe=3DUTF-8&um=3D1&ie=3DUTF-8&cid=3D3425282320810705673&sa=3DX&e= i=3D5QmWTdyzMazOiALF_OmcCQ&ved=3D0CE0Q8wIwAw#ps-sellers_ > > Only $13........this is a device that you could use multiples of for > interesting tunings, =A0although, in the long run, I think > I prefer just rapidly retuning the guitar, manually. > > > _The 'Piranha Bow'_ > allows a person's strumming hand to have the texture of a bow. =A0 =A0Fan= tastic > for rapid rhythmic work. > > _http://www.piranhaguitarbow.com/_ > > At $40, there not cheap, but he used to have a deal where he'd give you > three if you bought two......don't know if he still honors > that deal (I bought them for $25 at the time) but it's cool to get three > people to go in on a buy and two of them > played at once on an open tuned or lap steel guitar produces some very hi= p > results > > _'Suzuki Method 16th scale Violin Bows'_ > > http://www.google.com/products/catalog?client=3Dsafari&rls=3Den&q=3D1/16t= h+violin+bows&oe=3DUTF-8&um=3D1&ie=3DUTF-8&cid=3D10589079992227454761&sa=3D= X&ei=3DDRCWTfCpEKXkiALdrJTgCA&ved=3D0CEcQ8wIwBA#ps-sellers > > At $19, these miniature bows are fantastic for playing electric guitar. > I've had a lot of interesting results by using an open tuning on a guitar > and then using > two of them, one in each hand. =A0 You can bow rhythmically close to the > bridge with your right hand > and bow slowly over Barre Harmonics with the left hand to create really > beautiful textures. > > Because the electric guitar neck is flat , one has three different option= s > for playing > 1) bass lines =A0on the lowest string =A0 =A02) =A0melodies on the highes= t string > =A0 3) full chords by playing across the whole fretboard > > _'Vegetable Brushes'_ > These come in various colors and various degrees of stiffness to provide > alternate strumming textures > (not unlike lightly brushing over the strings with the tips of one's > fingers) > My wife hipped me to this approach by using a ball point pen or a drum st= ick > to rake over the strings to provide > new 'rubato' textures for strumming.................it makes 'smears' of > sound instead of really articulate rhythms. > > _'This Rad Pick that my brother gave me years ago'_ that has four gradiat= ed > plastic picks on one side and three on the other so > that every time you pick the guitar, =A0it has the effect of a 'flam' of = four > individual picked sounds together...... > .......like an ersatz 48 string guitar effect. =A0 =A0Not sure what it's = called, > though. > > _'The Jellyfish Pick'_ > > http://www.jellifish.com/techniques/videos/bow-4-qt.html > > At $12 a cool pick with multiple steel rods that allows for picking or mi= ld > bowing techniques > _ > 'Little Easter Island Tiki Head Blue Plastic Martini Stirrers'_ > fantastically balanced to be able to play a prepared or open tuned lapste= el > guitar like a hammer dulcimer. > Awesome because they can be used as a tiny slide as well as a tiny hammer= s. > > _'Clitoral Vibrators or Egg Vibrators'_ > especially if you can find the kind that have a short chord with a remote > speed control. > You just turn it on, =A0let it dangle on a lap steel or prepared guitar a= nd > then fuck with the speed............very nice random stuff occurs. > > _"An Multiple Allen Wrench Plectrum"_ > This was made famous by Thom Morello of Rage Against the Machine.......yo= u > space the Allen wrenches out and use them as > a 'flamming' plectrum. > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 18:21:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC94618349F; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 18:21:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D961792.9020300@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2011 11:21:06 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Charles Zwicky CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RE: OMG OT: Harmonic Capo References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_rE2hC.A.uJF.aehlNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108743 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 18:21:14 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > > Are you kidding? The first thing I thought was to put two on the > neck, on at the 12th fret, one at the 7th and adjust each capo to > touch only certain strings depending on the harmonic desired...! I see what you are saying, Charles but, practically, I think it would actually take less time to put one on and just tune your guitar to the harmonics you want , ala a zither. You can only have 6 harmonics no matter how many capos you use, after all. It took me a fair amount of time to put it on the guitar and space it appropriately and then lower the individual harmonics capos to each string...........this would not be fast for live playing, I think if you used more than one. The only efficacy to this approach that I see is if you want to keep your guitar in a particular tuning live without having to retune so that might be a good solution. rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 18:25:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B6A91834B1; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 18:25:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D96189E.4020607@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2011 11:25:34 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Cheli-Colando CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108744 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 18:25:41 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > So I've pulled the frets on my guitar and filled in the frets with > epoxy. As soon as it dries I'll be sanding them down and lowering the > nut. My question to all you DIYers who may have done this yourself, > did you leave the fretboard as is after you sanded the frets down > again or did you cover the neck in epoxy and smooth that down? I've > seen it both ways and I thought I'd get opinions from this august body > of experimenters. I did a radical thing: I didn't fill in the frets and so far, it seems to play pretty well.............additionally, you can feel the gap as you slide over it so it unconsciously helps with intonation. That said and done, my assistant, Maha, who is very skilled visual artist in acrylic/wood and stone sculpture is planning to figure out how to fill the frets with acryillic that gloes dayglo pink under black light so I can so my black light shows with some kind of correct intonation. I'll let you know how that goes. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 18:35:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C3FF41834BB; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 18:35:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Telus-Outbound-IP: 154.5.117.228 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=z142bJkMWqDP2XEzlxQnuwIoOh3xLk/o5216ri01DCg= c=1 sm=2 a=clZCPWgOUScA:10 a=3qZHA8CdAAAA:8 a=9awzleECAAAA:8 a=kZCaSYHnAAAA:8 a=AmuB-pcYAAAA:8 a=x9LQtntrAAAA:8 a=OUXYneDTAAAA:8 a=kVk2u6ao7Bb8ygwuErMA:9 a=5tGcCGmNQ8GroVjCh94A:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=2_Z-OvF4DAgA:10 a=9dKDUTTeGJsA:10 a=4g1Un4FPLDYA:10 a=k9XOtJXmrMMA:10 a=053Au2P4wpAA:10 a=7mPRI-mNKr6-l3Mt:21 a=XdkvU9cPVxiIEBHy:21 a=zo3pLElM7rrFaOjkGNsA:9 a=3_526Tj4UbQBiZcM92oA:7 From: richard sales Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-11--894304895 Subject: Re: OMG OT: Harmonic Capo / back up hard drives Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 11:35:25 -0700 In-Reply-To: <4D9616A9.1010003@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4D9616A9.1010003@cruzio.com> Message-Id: <3F684561-A7F5-4A71-8166-00BBDF2CF2DF@glasswing.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108745 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 18:35:28 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-11--894304895 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Rick and gang, For the future, a really cool solution to backup is the Voyager. =20 http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/NewerTech/Voyager/Hard_Drive_Dock I take the old 1TB drives out of my ever expanding Drobo (now 7 TB), = reformat and use them for backup. You just plug raw drives into Voyager = and away you go. Don't have to pay for a power supply etc each time you = need more backup. You don't need the fast and more expensive drives = for backup. I've saved a good deal of money doing this. I buy the cheap 2TB drives from Tiger Direct- around $90!!=20 I've found it's always good to eject drives from Voyager before sleep or = rebooting etc. =20 Drobo itself is incredible, but the up front costs are more and it can = be slower than mud going uphill. Cool thing about Drobo is, drives can = die inside it and no data is lost. But it's time consuming. I've had = two drives die in it and... Ta Dah! No data loss! Replacing drives in Drobo can take days to format and reshuffle data. = But if you worry about data loss and don't mind hearing it grind on for = days behind the scenes, it's really cool. www.drobo.com I think both are cool solutions, but I'd probably start with Voyager = first. Cheap way to get the job done. Drobo is more secure, but you = can always make mirror copies of Voyager drives too.=20 I think both work in both Macs and Windows machines. =20 r richard sales www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.goodnaturefarms.com On Apr 1, 2011, at 11:17 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Art Simon wrote: >> Thanks for the heads up Rick! Can't wait to get mine. >>=20 >> BTW, let me know if you need anything to get your computer recording >> setup up and running, I'll often have extra drives, enclosures and >> audio interfaces lying around. > You are such a sweetheart, Art! Thanks for your generous offer. > I think I'm covered.......I went out and bought a slew of big hard = drives so > that I never have backup woes again. >=20 > Rick >=20 --Apple-Mail-11--894304895 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Rick = and gang,

For the future, a really cool solution to = backup is the Voyager.  

=

I take the old 1TB drives out of my ever expanding = Drobo (now 7 TB), reformat and use them for backup.  You just plug = raw drives into Voyager and away you go.  Don't have to pay for a = power supply etc each time you need more backup.   You don't need = the fast and more expensive drives for backup.  I've saved a good = deal of money doing this.

I buy the cheap 2TB = drives from Tiger Direct- around = $90!! 

I've found it's always good to = eject drives from Voyager before sleep or rebooting etc. =  

Drobo itself is incredible, but the up = front costs are more and it can be slower than mud going uphill. =  Cool thing about Drobo is, drives can die inside it and no data is = lost.  But it's time consuming.  I've had two drives die in it = and... Ta Dah!  No data loss!

Replacing = drives in Drobo can take days to format and reshuffle data.  But if = you worry about data loss and don't mind hearing it grind on for days = behind the scenes, it's really cool.


I= think both are cool solutions, but I'd probably start with Voyager = first.  Cheap way to get the job done.  Drobo is more secure, = but you can always make mirror copies of Voyager drives = too. 

I think both work in both Macs and = Windows machines.  

r
richard sales
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= www.goodnaturefarms.com=











On Apr 1, 2011, at 11:17 AM, Rick Walker wrote:

On = 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Art Simon wrote:
Thanks = for the heads up Rick! Can't wait to get = mine.

BTW, let me = know if you need anything to get your computer = recording
setup up and = running, I'll often have extra drives, enclosures = and
audio interfaces lying = around.
You are such a sweetheart, Art! =   Thanks for your generous offer.
I think I'm = covered.......I went out and bought a slew of big hard drives so
that = I never have backup woes = again.

Rick


= = --Apple-Mail-11--894304895-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 18:35:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 127801834C4; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 18:35:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-04-01_07:2011-04-01,2011-04-01,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1104010090 In-reply-to: References: Message-id: From: Toby Graves Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2011 11:29:01 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108746 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 18:35:29 +0000 (UTC) The epoxy didn't seem to want to stick to the surface of the fretboard when I've tried it. I've only filled in slots with it. toby On Apr 1, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > Hello again, > > So I've pulled the frets on my guitar and filled in the frets with > epoxy. As soon as it dries I'll be sanding them down and lowering the > nut. My question to all you DIYers who may have done this yourself, > did you leave the fretboard as is after you sanded the frets down > again or did you cover the neck in epoxy and smooth that down? I've > seen it both ways and I thought I'd get opinions from this august body > of experimenters. > > Thanks, > > Kevin > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to > have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all > trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 18:54:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F8281834CF; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 18:54:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=7P9dubtIXLU1uTYoeGISe4WxsS6EUAmv3Yv6BAFyrkg= c=1 sm=2 a=kZCaSYHnAAAA:8 a=AmuB-pcYAAAA:8 a=x9LQtntrAAAA:8 a=OUXYneDTAAAA:8 a=c9eTbBAgAAAA:8 a=d3s395feAAAA:8 a=cWZZncLVAAAA:8 a=Cd49tnEHAAAA:8 a=HIgHRvJcNzvl55mlT5sA:9 a=i4aUyLYuEVcNLD7pT8kA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=9dKDUTTeGJsA:10 a=4g1Un4FPLDYA:10 a=k9XOtJXmrMMA:10 a=053Au2P4wpAA:10 a=ePqU_3ItVtgA:10 a=QNCXm3Y973o2zdFD2ogA:7 X-Telus-Outbound-IP: 154.5.117.228 From: richard sales Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-12--893158570 Subject: Re: OMG OT: Harmonic Capo Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 11:54:32 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8B561@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.ne t> <4D95F844.8080706@cruzio.com> Message-Id: <7958439C-02EA-4843-88C3-79938EDC1859@glasswing.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108747 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 18:54:34 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-12--893158570 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Funny you say that Charles! (I always read backwards in topic streams) I had thought it would be cool to use two (on different frets) and a = partial (I cut 'em off) Kyser capo for super weirdness. I really love partial capos in tunings. You can wobble 'em for cool = vibrato and get very different, impossible sounds out of a guitar. Cool gizmo, Rick. SLightly reminiscent of the Third Hand Capo. I want one! Thanks for the tip, R richard sales www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.goodnaturefarms.com www.reverbnation.com/richardsalestreefrogorchestra On Apr 1, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Charles Zwicky wrote: >> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Rick Walker wrote: >>>=20 >> Actually, unlike the third hand Capo (which does fret individual = strings) this device doesn't >> change the tuning of one's guitar (I tried already)........it just = allows one to play barre harmonics >> without using one's fretting hand at all, so I'm fairly certain that = it wouldn't be efficacious to use >> two of them at once. >=20 >=20 > Are you kidding? The first thing I thought was to put two on the = neck, on at the 12th fret, one at the 7th and adjust each capo to touch = only certain strings depending on the harmonic desired...! >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > ... > http://www.zmix.net >=20 > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky >=20 > http://albumcredits.com/zmix >=20 --Apple-Mail-12--893158570 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Funny = you say that Charles!  (I always read backwards in topic = streams)

I had thought it would be cool to use two = (on different frets) and a partial (I cut 'em off) Kyser capo for super = weirdness.

I really love partial capos in = tunings.  You can wobble 'em for cool vibrato and get very = different, impossible sounds out of a = guitar.

Cool gizmo, Rick.  SLightly = reminiscent of the Third Hand Capo.

I want one! =  Thanks for the tip,

R
On Apr 1, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Charles Zwicky wrote:

On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Rick = Walker wrote:

Actually, unlike the third hand Capo (which does fret = individual strings)  this device = doesn't
change the tuning of = one's guitar (I tried already)........it just allows one to play barre = harmonics
without using one's = fretting hand at all, so I'm fairly certain that it wouldn't be = efficacious to use
two of them = at once.


Are you kidding?   The first = thing I thought was to put two on the neck, on at the 12th fret, one at = the 7th and adjust each capo to touch only certain strings depending on = the harmonic desired...!


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= --Apple-Mail-12--893158570-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 18:55:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FB781834DF; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 18:55:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Creative Alternative Tools for Guitar Looping References: <4D96150B.3000804@cruzio.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <4D96150B.3000804@cruzio.com> Message-ID: <32F8824C-4EDF-49F6-9936-41255FEEE615@1800dialword.com> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 14:55:09 -0400 Thread-Topic: Creative Alternative Tools for Guitar Looping Thread-Index: AcvwnlVtDidJ7kcYRWOaY4KKZqPsgQ== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Apr 2011 18:55:39.0472 (UTC) FILETIME=[64AC8D00:01CBF09E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108748 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 18:55:40 +0000 (UTC) Only Rick could use the words 'clitoral vibrator' in a post and keep it on t= opic. Zoe, turn your head!!! Ok next project, a cage and hamsters to run around on top of my lap steel!!!= Andy o= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 19:08:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 49BFD1834E7; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 19:08:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=5U+SFdIpUlPWzBtc6F3lbA7qJL32loS4FsdwHJN7yNE=; b=kei62RgHu1tyxSaWZ8+n4dp7GIamPz6qYHhr/RN3W0WHUXpNGMgcJxkK9n5VSjVBo0 snmNjRxxyWOUWTLzTVDlTqASiTSePyg9qUHBhyBWzyPc1DP6S5ttYTvXnFxQIu194FwI 0uUISFigrxvEz7aVZX4JZyRUE8snidE4LQWww= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=o3vr8WE0srA0dAIs8NFL+G4A2wgd4YizpgNe/yiqLoOLwZS+ToZkUUOi2V2UTgy6cl 5sDnl4oFpnpB2ijV7FqI6wgDgWv+P8LN9X9dNnfxe7ar0HwwmIq43zXZFYf4QQCwL6X4 wa/cHMm0LwtDVRJYsi3zg1TYasouqPpZJw5X0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 20:08:47 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: mobius in ableton From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd59452b9f821049fe023f5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108749 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 19:08:48 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd59452b9f821049fe023f5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 just messing with this and trying to follow per's instructions - In Ableton Live's mixer window: 1. Open Mobius plugin on an Audio Track. 2. In this Audio Track's "Audio From" slot, select "A-Return". 3. If you intend to use multiple parallel Mobius looper output tracks: Create as many audio tracks in the Live mixer as you want to use separate outputs of Mobius looop tracks (maximum 7, since the first track that hosts the Mobius plugin will provide audio output from Mobius track 1). 4. Set them all to "Monitor = In". 5. For each one of the Live Mixer tracks you have to hold down the mouse inside the slot under the "Audio From" header and chose the appropriate Mobius output track. unfortunately when i get to step 5, i don't see the separate mobius tracks listed. i do have 8 ports enabled for the plugin. what am i missing? sim --000e0cd59452b9f821049fe023f5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable just messing with this and trying to follow per's instructions -=A0
In Ableton Live's mixer window:
1. Open Mobius plugin on an Audio Track.
2. In this Audio Track's "Audio From" slot, select "A-Re=
turn".
3. If you intend to use multiple parallel Mobius looper output tracks:
Create as many audio tracks in the Live mixer as you want to use
separate outputs of Mobius looop tracks (maximum 7, since the first
track that hosts the Mobius plugin will provide audio output from
Mobius track 1).
4. Set them all to "Monitor =3D In".
5. For each one of the Live Mixer tracks you have to hold down the
mouse inside the slot under the "Audio From" header and chose the
appropriate Mobius output track.

unfortunately whe=
n i get to step 5, i don't see the separate mobius tracks listed. i do =
have 8 ports enabled for the plugin.

what am i mis=
sing?

sim
--000e0cd59452b9f821049fe023f5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 19:20:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B48141834B6; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 19:20:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=MVvPib0Ehn/nNSclOxCLPIAV3V73xPFYxdz4XGIp9Hc=; b=hg6P0c0kbLHvahgAEzq93TC+Jf9T3isBS+XmFrmHT3jx1+KvnOCW/0gbENzhdvk4nS A18PVzRErT8TQXAoflIq+BlpviDXqc+sYy1OoODqSuAPtSzaNn0O43I6F4JbI3isHnZ2 jHm/MF9xysK/uRhi0Yq0JorIKly/2altsDHJQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=DA6IepNvxR5nqGT0IqvCXmIcqiKs+XqI1q77+rqUoYMuIq1q1aW34JGASb/EFNGmPu MGjJpjDjI7YsN4w6eWuFjRAsAVNG3poGti3Y544/hHbKeAdPDw7qkWuhvnDYYThEjcPD KV3GpktE6K2QQWKAkC9yFaBvkmlm/EHH2IyBA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: todd reynolds Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 15:20:10 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mobius in ableton To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747bac696de02049fe04d29 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108750 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 19:20:32 +0000 (UTC) --00151747bac696de02049fe04d29 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Sim. first, in that pulldown menu, you have to select the track you have mobius ON... then in the lower pull down menu you'll see the tracks. each track has to be receiving audio from the original mobius track, and then it will give you the submenu there. best, todd On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > just messing with this and trying to follow per's instructions - > > > In Ableton Live's mixer window: > 1. Open Mobius plugin on an Audio Track. > 2. In this Audio Track's "Audio From" slot, select "A-Return". > 3. If you intend to use multiple parallel Mobius looper output tracks: > Create as many audio tracks in the Live mixer as you want to use > separate outputs of Mobius looop tracks (maximum 7, since the first > track that hosts the Mobius plugin will provide audio output from > Mobius track 1). > 4. Set them all to "Monitor =3D In". > 5. For each one of the Live Mixer tracks you have to hold down the > mouse inside the slot under the "Audio From" header and chose the > appropriate Mobius output track. > > > unfortunately when i get to step 5, i don't see the separate mobius track= s listed. i do have 8 ports enabled for the plugin. > > > what am i missing? > > > sim > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 Outerborough, my debut double CD set is now available on iTunes, and street date is set for March 29th. You can check out the INNOVA Recordings Artist Page here: http://innova.mu/artist1.asp?skuID=3D449 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --00151747bac696de02049fe04d29 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Sim.

first, =A0in that pulldown menu, you have to sel= ect the track you have mobius ON... then in the lower pull down menu you= 9;ll see the tracks. =A0

each track has to be rece= iving audio from the original mobius track, =A0and then it will give you th= e submenu there.=A0

best,=A0

todd



On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 3:08 PM,= Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
just messing with this and trying to follow= per's instructions -=A0


In Ableton Live's mixer window:
1. Open Mobius plugin on an Audio Track.
2. In this Audio Track's "Audio From" slot, select "A-Re=
turn".
3. If you intend to use multiple parallel Mobius looper output tracks:
Create as many audio tracks in the Live mixer as you want to use
separate outputs of Mobius looop tracks (maximum 7, since the first
track that hosts the Mobius plugin will provide audio output from
Mobius track 1).
4. Set them all to "Monitor =3D In".
5. For each one of the Live Mixer tracks you have to hold down the
mouse inside the slot under the "Audio From" header and chose the
appropriate Mobius output track.

unfortunately whe=
n i get to step 5, i don't see the separate mobius tracks listed. i do =
have 8 ports enabled for the plugin.

what am i mis=
sing?

sim



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=95 Outerborough, my debut double CD set is now available o= n iTunes, and street date is set for March 29th. You can check out the INNO= VA Recordings Artist Page here:

--00151747bac696de02049fe04d29-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 19:22:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84E521834B6; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 19:22:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DCRiWdV/Q+B9jqcq9h5xLoJTIKlgr7eSajhhfaxyPwQ=; b=MZlFR8Duw0JXjoCpPCPJyYqQk2U1EV0DZ9uThJWaCYv35/w9A07vBge3KgoJS55Kxn 567DM66wwIb8e4/xbF44/iI+A9Sx+OApiNSL4EbqqGWkC7hPkvrBToVRLkLeFaZ9WVKv DzQYAOd1TyvZe6io8uzLyYEPGe2hlbgqw6IoA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=XhcIZK+2f+6vfA7oCIJPcRFIsUEplpxbEJ67yyLywwjh8sClSF+VPoTAwSgKxSZjnF Yvi/4Clt9tqoATgHmhxbzwHh0Y/FA9+FFiwDkY9X/OTPPlog9ZgZyA/WR0f6b/5XhGRs C1x0ScndXMwft/+lEu1xLUkEEzqbEXvDf525Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <75C2B783-8B7C-4C6A-838E-80C5CDF22460@charter.net> References: <4D95AEFF.6040307@cruzio.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8B561@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <8CDBE8AE9841A09-656C-1DD@TSTMAIL-D09.sysops.aol.com> <75C2B783-8B7C-4C6A-838E-80C5CDF22460@charter.net> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:22:02 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: CHAIN -TAPE COLLECTIVE From: andy soto To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00261883c09215543a049fe053c6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108751 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 19:22:03 +0000 (UTC) --00261883c09215543a049fe053c6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cool project!! On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 5:10 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wro= te: > Yesssss!!! > > And, thanks to Jim Goodin's "Reuse Recycle" project a couple of years bac= k, > I finally got to be on one. > > How many years has that been for CT Michael? > > Best, > > Ted > > > On Apr 1, 2011, at 6:50 AM, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > > HAPPY BIRTHDAY C-T C!!!!! >> >> >> > --00261883c09215543a049fe053c6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=A0Cool project!!


On Fri, Apr 1, = 2011 at 5:10 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
Yesssss!!!

And, thanks to Jim Goodin's "Reuse Recycle" project a couple = of years back, I finally got to be on one.

How many years has that been for CT Michael?

Best,

Ted


On Apr 1, 2011, at 6:50 AM, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote:

HAPPY BIRTHDAY C-T C!!!!!




--00261883c09215543a049fe053c6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 19:25:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 59EBA1834C0; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 19:25:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Sender: Catch All Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Creative Alternative Tools for Guitar Looping From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rapha=EBl_-_Mancing_Dolecules?= In-Reply-To: <4D96150B.3000804@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:25:46 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4F063A36-CB54-48C7-9D99-AB8E9B72D4D8@mancingdolecules.com> References: <4D96150B.3000804@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108752 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 19:25:50 +0000 (UTC) The Piranha Bow looks very interesting to me. I was looking for an = "e-bow like thing" for nylon string guitars, do you know if it would = work with them ? I can't exactly figure out how it works based on the few pictures on the = site, is there any videos to check out ? Thanks for sharing ! Le 1 avr. 2011 =E0 20:10, Rick Walker a =E9crit : >=20 > Speaking of cool guitar tools, like the 'Harmonics Capo' > here's a few that that I really like and have used a lot. > (what are some others?) >=20 >=20 > _The 'Third Hand Capo'_ > allows one to capo individual strings for interesting and quick = 'altered tunings' >=20 > = _http://www.google.com/products/catalog?client=3Dsafari&rls=3Den&q=3Dthird= +hand+capo&oe=3DUTF-8&um=3D1&ie=3DUTF-8&cid=3D3425282320810705673&sa=3DX&e= i=3D5QmWTdyzMazOiALF_OmcCQ&ved=3D0CE0Q8wIwAw#ps-sellers_ >=20 > Only $13........this is a device that you could use multiples of for = interesting tunings, although, in the long run, I think > I prefer just rapidly retuning the guitar, manually. >=20 >=20 > _The 'Piranha Bow'_ > allows a person's strumming hand to have the texture of a bow. = Fantastic for rapid rhythmic work. >=20 > _http://www.piranhaguitarbow.com/_ >=20 > At $40, there not cheap, but he used to have a deal where he'd give = you three if you bought two......don't know if he still honors > that deal (I bought them for $25 at the time) but it's cool to get = three people to go in on a buy and two of them > played at once on an open tuned or lap steel guitar produces some very = hip results >=20 > _'Suzuki Method 16th scale Violin Bows'_ >=20 > = http://www.google.com/products/catalog?client=3Dsafari&rls=3Den&q=3D1/16th= +violin+bows&oe=3DUTF-8&um=3D1&ie=3DUTF-8&cid=3D10589079992227454761&sa=3D= X&ei=3DDRCWTfCpEKXkiALdrJTgCA&ved=3D0CEcQ8wIwBA#ps-sellers >=20 > At $19, these miniature bows are fantastic for playing electric = guitar. > I've had a lot of interesting results by using an open tuning on a = guitar and then using > two of them, one in each hand. You can bow rhythmically close to the = bridge with your right hand > and bow slowly over Barre Harmonics with the left hand to create = really beautiful textures. >=20 > Because the electric guitar neck is flat , one has three different = options for playing > 1) bass lines on the lowest string 2) melodies on the highest = string 3) full chords by playing across the whole fretboard >=20 > _'Vegetable Brushes'_ > These come in various colors and various degrees of stiffness to = provide alternate strumming textures > (not unlike lightly brushing over the strings with the tips of one's = fingers) > My wife hipped me to this approach by using a ball point pen or a drum = stick to rake over the strings to provide > new 'rubato' textures for strumming.................it makes 'smears' = of sound instead of really articulate rhythms. >=20 > _'This Rad Pick that my brother gave me years ago'_ that has four = gradiated plastic picks on one side and three on the other so > that every time you pick the guitar, it has the effect of a 'flam' of = four individual picked sounds together...... > .......like an ersatz 48 string guitar effect. Not sure what it's = called, though. >=20 > _'The Jellyfish Pick'_ >=20 > http://www.jellifish.com/techniques/videos/bow-4-qt.html >=20 > At $12 a cool pick with multiple steel rods that allows for picking or = mild bowing techniques > _ > 'Little Easter Island Tiki Head Blue Plastic Martini Stirrers'_ > fantastically balanced to be able to play a prepared or open tuned = lapsteel guitar like a hammer dulcimer. > Awesome because they can be used as a tiny slide as well as a tiny = hammers. >=20 > _'Clitoral Vibrators or Egg Vibrators'_ > especially if you can find the kind that have a short chord with a = remote speed control. > You just turn it on, let it dangle on a lap steel or prepared guitar = and then fuck with the speed............very nice random stuff occurs. >=20 > _"An Multiple Allen Wrench Plectrum"_ > This was made famous by Thom Morello of Rage Against the = Machine.......you space the Allen wrenches out and use them as > a 'flamming' plectrum. >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 19:27:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DBCCF1834CF; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 19:27:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1301686023; bh=jkr8nrpWSKc5X9qkyX5kBVoPmOGFtCyKWfnucw2aV/0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=L3fOvQBY4f9H9KzDwvQQUagl2XyHEdbBxZctPllv4lvS3JQ3gWIg9ugl87ANd/8i/stDKvORun3Uyr+OgmgRY7hyCKCDsyL3HMsBwm6iDCt7MrtaYLkIhiQbfa0ibctfU/371Vy9G/BzZYHAL17xJeUWq04iU4+PF1QThfLzm98= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; 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Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <-8O32.A.jTH.JcilNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108753 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 19:27:05 +0000 (UTC) this is an excellent list of toys! as far as homemade gear goes, any bassis= t who has ever yearned for a pair of tony levin's funk fingers can approxim= ate the effect with a couple of disposable cigar tubes (here in the states,= i use garcia & vega english corona). if you haven't a use for the cigar i= nside, most musicians will have a friend or two that will make use of it. f= or years i tried the ends of drum sticks with rubber tubing slipped on cove= ring my fingers, but i found this a couple of years ago and never looked ba= ck. they are not incredibly durable, but they are cheap enough that it doe= sn't matter. time --- On Fri, 4/1/11, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > From: Kevin Cheli-Colando > Subject: Re: Creative Alternative Tools for Guitar Looping > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Friday, April 1, 2011, 1:17 PM > Tom Carter of charalambides and > others played lap steel with large > pieces of sidewalk chalk, scraping them off on the strings > as he went. >=20 > Also, Nels Cline kept a large metal coil spring in his back > pocket for > more string scrapes last time I saw him. >=20 > Just to add more to the list. >=20 > And don't forget alligator clips on the strings and > chopstick in > between them (for odd whammy bar effects are various > intervals) >=20 > Kevin >=20 > On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Rick Walker > wrote: > > > > Speaking of cool guitar tools, like the 'Harmonics > Capo' > > here's a few that that I really like and have used a > lot. > > (what are some others?) > > > > > > _The 'Third Hand Capo'_ > > allows one to capo individual strings for interesting > and quick 'altered > > tunings' > > > > _http://www.google.com/products/catalog?client=3Dsafari&rls=3Den&q=3Dth= ird+hand+capo&oe=3DUTF-8&um=3D1&ie=3DUTF-8&cid=3D3425282320810705673&sa=3DX= &ei=3D5QmWTdyzMazOiALF_OmcCQ&ved=3D0CE0Q8wIwAw#ps-sellers_ > > > > Only $13........this is a device that you could use > multiples of for > > interesting tunings, =A0although, in the long run, I > think > > I prefer just rapidly retuning the guitar, manually. > > > > > > _The 'Piranha Bow'_ > > allows a person's strumming hand to have the texture > of a bow. =A0 =A0Fantastic > > for rapid rhythmic work. > > > > _http://www.piranhaguitarbow.com/_ > > > > At $40, there not cheap, but he used to have a deal > where he'd give you > > three if you bought two......don't know if he still > honors > > that deal (I bought them for $25 at the time) but it's > cool to get three > > people to go in on a buy and two of them > > played at once on an open tuned or lap steel guitar > produces some very hip > > results > > > > _'Suzuki Method 16th scale Violin Bows'_ > > > > http://www.google.com/products/catalog?client=3Dsafari&rls=3Den&q=3D1/1= 6th+violin+bows&oe=3DUTF-8&um=3D1&ie=3DUTF-8&cid=3D10589079992227454761&sa= =3DX&ei=3DDRCWTfCpEKXkiALdrJTgCA&ved=3D0CEcQ8wIwBA#ps-sellers > > > > At $19, these miniature bows are fantastic for playing > electric guitar. > > I've had a lot of interesting results by using an open > tuning on a guitar > > and then using > > two of them, one in each hand. =A0 You can bow > rhythmically close to the > > bridge with your right hand > > and bow slowly over Barre Harmonics with the left hand > to create really > > beautiful textures. > > > > Because the electric guitar neck is flat , one has > three different options > > for playing > > 1) bass lines =A0on the lowest string =A0 =A02) > =A0melodies on the highest string > > =A0 3) full chords by playing across the whole > fretboard > > > > _'Vegetable Brushes'_ > > These come in various colors and various degrees of > stiffness to provide > > alternate strumming textures > > (not unlike lightly brushing over the strings with the > tips of one's > > fingers) > > My wife hipped me to this approach by using a ball > point pen or a drum stick > > to rake over the strings to provide > > new 'rubato' textures for strumming.................it > makes 'smears' of > > sound instead of really articulate rhythms. > > > > _'This Rad Pick that my brother gave me years ago'_ > that has four gradiated > > plastic picks on one side and three on the other so > > that every time you pick the guitar, =A0it has the > effect of a 'flam' of four > > individual picked sounds together...... > > .......like an ersatz 48 string guitar effect. =A0 > =A0Not sure what it's called, > > though. > > > > _'The Jellyfish Pick'_ > > > > http://www.jellifish.com/techniques/videos/bow-4-qt.html > > > > At $12 a cool pick with multiple steel rods that > allows for picking or mild > > bowing techniques > > _ > > 'Little Easter Island Tiki Head Blue Plastic Martini > Stirrers'_ > > fantastically balanced to be able to play a prepared > or open tuned lapsteel > > guitar like a hammer dulcimer. > > Awesome because they can be used as a tiny slide as > well as a tiny hammers. > > > > _'Clitoral Vibrators or Egg Vibrators'_ > > especially if you can find the kind that have a short > chord with a remote > > speed control. > > You just turn it on, =A0let it dangle on a lap steel or > prepared guitar and > > then fuck with the speed............very nice random > stuff occurs. > > > > _"An Multiple Allen Wrench Plectrum"_ > > This was made famous by Thom Morello of Rage Against > the Machine.......you > > space the Allen wrenches out and use them as > > a 'flamming' plectrum. > > > > >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body > and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause > of all trouble. >=20 > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >=20 > Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 19:39:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 123B71834DB; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 19:39:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer :in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version; bh=IVA4gZltYEJpfpFuzO0gnekd2KR9jQINqnYw7mZOlx8=; b=Tm8yT5qj1ps9xcVpfOzURFOxnMNyL0WkwMc/L58HkfD80IfrnoUTkqCdVgtqEYVQN2 eVW6nfE26WNKc49wQIId1YNtzWtFkQiQDR2KeAa7q5BZesFCTM9YFNM3hM9oA8cteNTN XeVQqxi6SvTZa5xIm5xzWFa9WLLfqRwiRz6K0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; b=CZG4dGFJYuUDegGpswGwOlb7hKqH1dTv8MTLsRdsnjV5e+yh68xjU4KIf1bY0VBEGa dAe4J3sJ72dMJdq2wtsPXzyLW7gRciXE1bpNg2jNJ7xVKt7ZV+jGXkDvo7ORQuXx/vRN ++jFattRKVJTCJ0CysSwnH5NHtzNYIjOETQxE= Subject: Re: mobius in ableton References: From: Simeon Harris Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--890287936 X-Mailer: iPod Mail (8B117) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <1571ABE5-E846-43A9-917B-4C45D2EA0245@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 20:42:18 +0100 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 8B117) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108754 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 19:39:19 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--890287936 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Thanks Todd, I knew it had to be something simple Sent from my iPod On 1 Apr 2011, at 20:20, todd reynolds wrote: > Hi Sim. >=20 > first, in that pulldown menu, you have to select the track you have mobiu= s ON... then in the lower pull down menu you'll see the tracks. =20 >=20 > each track has to be receiving audio from the original mobius track, and t= hen it will give you the submenu there.=20 >=20 > best,=20 >=20 > todd >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > just messing with this and trying to follow per's instructions -=20 >=20 >=20 > In Ableton Live's mixer window: > 1. Open Mobius plugin on an Audio Track. > 2. In this Audio Track's "Audio From" slot, select "A-Return". > 3. If you intend to use multiple parallel Mobius looper output tracks: > Create as many audio tracks in the Live mixer as you want to use > separate outputs of Mobius looop tracks (maximum 7, since the first > track that hosts the Mobius plugin will provide audio output from > Mobius track 1). > 4. Set them all to "Monitor =3D In". > 5. For each one of the Live Mixer tracks you have to hold down the > mouse inside the slot under the "Audio From" header and chose the > appropriate Mobius output track. >=20 > unfortunately when i get to step 5, i don't see the separate mobius tracks= listed. i do have 8 ports enabled for the plugin. >=20 > what am i missing? >=20 > sim=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > =E2=80=A2 Outerborough, my debut double CD set is now available on iTunes,= and street date is set for March 29th. You can check out the INNOVA Recordi= ngs Artist Page here: >=20 > http://innova.mu/artist1.asp?skuID=3D449 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > http://toddreynolds.com > http://twitter.com/digifiddler > http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic > http://blog.toddreynolds.com > http://facebook.com/toddreynolds > http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds >=20 --Apple-Mail-1--890287936 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Thanks Todd, I knew it had to be something simple

Sent from my iPod

On 1 Apr 2011, at 20:20, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Sim.

first,  in that pulldown menu, you have to select the track you have mobius ON... then in the lower pull down menu you'll see the tracks.  

each track has to be receiving audio from the original mobius track,  and then it will give you the submenu there. 

best, 

todd



On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
just messing with this and trying to follow per's instructions - 

In Ableton Live's mixer window:
1. Open Mobius plugin on an Audio Track.
2. In this Audio Track's "Audio From" slot, select "A-Return".
3. If you intend to use multiple parallel Mobius looper output tracks:
Create as many audio tracks in the Live mixer as you want to use
separate outputs of Mobius looop tracks (maximum 7, since the first
track that hosts the Mobius plugin will provide audio output from
Mobius track 1).
4. Set them all to "Monitor = In".
5. For each one of the Live Mixer tracks you have to hold down the
mouse inside the slot under the "Audio From" header and chose the
appropriate Mobius output track.

unfortunately when i get to step 5, i don't see the separate mobius tracks listed. i do have 8 ports enabled for the plugin.

what am i missing?

sim



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• Outerborough, my debut double CD set is now available on iTunes, and street date is set for March 29th. You can check out the INNOVA Recordings Artist Page here:


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Thanks Todd, = I knew it had to be something simple

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--Apple-Mail-23--889376749-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 20:41:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 895041834B6; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 20:41:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: OT support for DAWs References: <69583.61920.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <69583.61920.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 16:41:07 -0400 Thread-Topic: OT support for DAWs Thread-Index: AcvwrSPfgE8zr/R4TVKP7FY8oI4+fg== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Apr 2011 20:41:32.0507 (UTC) FILETIME=[2F60C2B0:01CBF0AD] Resent-Message-ID: <8yz_cC.A.zCB.9hjlNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108757 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 20:41:34 +0000 (UTC) Nuendo support nonexistent, but always worked good for me. Plenty of 'middle= of session' questions I would have paid that $30 for tho!!! Be careful what= you dont wish for!! Andy o= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 20:56:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02BDE1834AB; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 20:56:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=IEUjH+UQc1x80GFWo0fEtskS+fuBGXgu4J/QG2P5auk=; b=VVHUlywqMK9dlvDXDto7tZ3YisklMrqWw6vCBw5kqBt6n/LxF/1R/o/VDZsFVeba0H mzAioG4CMQc5hlONg3ziwPXjSMtTCRrI5FIcRFh3rm1KtIP4mwHcppd+HMtYgFxmV2SE Odzlr4q+C3SCwe0XL6sjdMhnVVVC0Gbr2B6rM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=W7Jgws3+YJlHbmjgG1Qk5SZBa9L9DuPwXxzvYGkaXUQNytYltbmCvy6xiAKY4gw8Qq 9eUnub8QzYm46/GlpKYt3RZq+FIpkQScCHGrOkpyOdIn/6kTtZFV5rfRHuvznTTuFKyD 4uiUEl980Hr/VA7E7k11wIBjFtuR1tBvW6U1k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D95AEFF.6040307@cruzio.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8B561@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <8CDBE8AE9841A09-656C-1DD@TSTMAIL-D09.sysops.aol.com> <75C2B783-8B7C-4C6A-838E-80C5CDF22460@charter.net> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 22:56:11 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: CHAIN -TAPE COLLECTIVE From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6538572d180ce049fe1a3fc Resent-Message-ID: <-cpMOD.A.8eB.svjlNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108758 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 20:56:12 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6538572d180ce049fe1a3fc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable kudos to michael peters who has mantained and cleaned the website for all us. thanks!!! 2011/4/1 andy soto > > Cool project!! > > > > On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 5:10 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn w= rote: > >> Yesssss!!! >> >> And, thanks to Jim Goodin's "Reuse Recycle" project a couple of years >> back, I finally got to be on one. >> >> How many years has that been for CT Michael? >> >> Best, >> >> Ted >> >> >> On Apr 1, 2011, at 6:50 AM, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: >> >> HAPPY BIRTHDAY C-T C!!!!! >>> >>> >>> >> > --=20 .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com --0016e6538572d180ce049fe1a3fc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable kudos to michael peters who has mantained and cleaned the website for all u= s. thanks!!!

2011/4/1 andy soto <musicalmexicana@g= mail.com>

=A0Cool project!!



On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 5= :10 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:=
Yesssss!!!

And, thanks to Jim Goodin's "Reuse Recycle" project a couple = of years back, I finally got to be on one.

How many years has that been for CT Michael?

Best,

Ted


On Apr 1, 2011, at 6:50 AM, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote:

HAPPY BIRTHDAY C-T C!!!!!







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raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com


--0016e6538572d180ce049fe1a3fc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 20:59:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E8701834B3; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 20:59:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <99DC589DA80E41E4BC3FCE3D35F827D3@ELUK1> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: ,<707730.95893.qm@web111503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Fripps April Fools Day Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:59:25 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01CBF0B8.10C892A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3508.1109 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3508.1109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108759 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 20:59:16 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01CBF0B8.10C892A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nobody can say RF doesn=E2=80=99t have a sense of humor, now. From: Matthew Stevens=20 Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:57 PM To: progressivemusicsociety@yahoogroups.com=20 Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Subject: Fripps April Fools Day=20 http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_9442000/9442861.stm=20 ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01CBF0B8.10C892A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nobody can say RF doesn=E2=80=99t have a sense of humor, now.
 
From: Matthew Stevens =
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:57 PM
Subject: Fripps April Fools Day
 
= http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_9442000/9442861.stm=20
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_001B_01CBF0B8.10C892A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 21:30:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A3EA61834BA; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:30:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 24094 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 01 Apr 2011 21:30:44 UTC X-Eon-Dm: dm0219 X-Eon-Sig: AQMLXdxNleXhQE/8CQIAAAAB,21c011cbcbbfb39ac0e0075fbe3ffe90 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: <3D208E93-29AB-4E16-8904-B43F11499B62@basicisp.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--907887419 From: Richard Roberts Subject: Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 09:49:03 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=5 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1104010056 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108760 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:30:44 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--907887419 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I know I don't post much to this list but I do lurk quite intensely, following many of the interesting and informative threads. However, I now have a new release! Markus and I both utilized loops throughout: DiNDDL08 - Markus Reuter & Zero Ohms - The Sun Is Just The Sun, But The Stars They Call The Heavens New collaboration between the German touch guitarist Markus Reuter & American woodwind experimentalist Zero Ohms. The name of Reuter will be familiar to most DiN aficionados for his three solo collaborations with label boss Ian Boddy although his musical influence extends well beyond DiN. He is rapidly establishing himself as a producer, performer and contemporary composer of note with a multitude of projects including most notably his collaboration under the banner of Tuner with King Crimson's drummer extraordinaire Pat Mastelotto. Zero Ohms is a new entrant into the panoply of DiN artists but he has been very active for many years in the fields of ambient electronica with his unique combination of flute, woodwind and electronics. He has released many albums including most recently Beyond The Portal (a collaboration with synthesist Craig Padilla) on the Lotuspike label. The Sun Is Just The Sun, But The Stars They Call The Heavens is being released as a digital only release on the DiNDDL label and features seven tracks spanning almost 68 minutes of beguiling, atmospheric ambient tracks. The creative process involved Reuter sending Zero Ohms a mesmerising collection of his touch guitar loops and atmospheres. Ohms then sifted through these selecting out the tracks he felt the most empathy with before adding layers of flutes and wind- synths as well as a selection of field recordings that add a dreamlike tapestry of extra detail to the tracks. The pieces where then sent back to Reuter for mixing and further refinement with the final result showcasing a seamless blend of the two composers artistic palettes. http://www.din.org.uk/din/node/173 Richard Roberts ZERO OHMS "We are no longer the same after hearing certain sounds, and this is more the case when we hear organized sounds, sounds organized by another human being: music." - Karlheinz Stockhausen "If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph: THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD WAS MUSIC." - Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. "Music is one of the basic attributes of matter; into whatever forms it may be organized." - John Muir DiNDDL08 - Markus Reuter & Zero Ohms - The Sun Is Just The Sun, But The Stars They Call The Heavens New collaboration between the German touch guitarist Markus Reuter & American woodwind experimentalist Zero Ohms. --Apple-Mail-1--907887419 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII I know I don't post much to this list but I do lurk quite intensely, = following many of the interesting and informative threads. However, I = now  have a new release! Markus and I both utilized loops = throughout:


DiNDDL08 - Markus Reuter & Zero Ohms - The Sun Is = Just The Sun, But The Stars They Call The = Heavens


New collaboration between the German touch guitarist Markus = Reuter & American woodwind experimentalist Zero Ohms. The name of = Reuter will be familiar to most DiN aficionados for his three solo = collaborations with label boss Ian Boddy although his musical influence = extends well beyond DiN. He is rapidly establishing himself as a = producer, performer and contemporary composer of note with a multitude = of projects including most notably his collaboration under the banner of = Tuner with King Crimson's drummer extraordinaire Pat Mastelotto. Zero = Ohms is a new entrant into the panoply of DiN artists but he has been = very active for many years in the fields of ambient electronica with his = unique combination of flute, woodwind and electronics. He has released = many albums including most recently Beyond The Portal (a collaboration = with synthesist Craig Padilla) on the Lotuspike label.
The Sun Is Just The Sun, But The Stars = They Call The Heavens is being released as a digital only release on the = DiNDDL label and features seven tracks spanning almost 68 minutes of = beguiling, atmospheric ambient tracks. The creative process involved = Reuter sending Zero Ohms a mesmerising collection of his touch guitar = loops and atmospheres. Ohms then sifted through these selecting out the = tracks he felt the most empathy with before adding layers of flutes and = wind-synths as well as a selection of field recordings that add a = dreamlike tapestry of extra detail to the tracks. The pieces where then = sent back to Reuter for mixing and further refinement with the final = result showcasing a seamless blend of the two composers artistic = palettes.


Richard = Roberts
ZERO OHMS

"We are no longer the same after hearing certain = sounds, and this is more the case when we hear organized sounds, sounds = organized by another human being: = music."  


"Music is one of the basic attributes of matter; into whatever = forms it may be organized."

- John Muir


DiNDDL08 - Markus Reuter = & Zero Ohms - The Sun Is Just The Sun, But The Stars They Call The = Heavens

New collaboration between the German touch = guitarist Markus Reuter & American woodwind experimentalist Zero = Ohms.




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= --Apple-Mail-1--907887419-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 21:56:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 713761834A4; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:56:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sNTqkfZRCuqNZk9JPEo3uEJguC9rmgexapwG9HOVxwM=; b=FWNMopcuS/Co2gW10eC+HS5quluFEGUBAAHaPh0B9BwJvONcuqqcn3ugriBHF/KIbX z8RgLeqiPXurKJD4PIyR/ZZOMOo8+pkBSdmB5A7jz6zm7Xr4k2OLM6ZYtwrRaqyPkffM 1wNmhOu0gipIidfKLM58MOwpWE5PKFbB+RwCo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BLpsaNj+kyPI+YILHjVX+UMJ/kHBfPdEF9ies0r35V8SBxNv2KtdkvqPaW01yMcMgU 1UAoeUlFInSJ1HiYIa5gLOtTEFcCeJV8haxa8toxZU/6Qyj7fEuHvALuCa5xsV5dCs2b /oHS1aLgF/EAtfIdwDs7p7kFpvJFzTpf4PkgA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <75C2B783-8B7C-4C6A-838E-80C5CDF22460@charter.net> References: <4D95AEFF.6040307@cruzio.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8B561@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <8CDBE8AE9841A09-656C-1DD@TSTMAIL-D09.sysops.aol.com> <75C2B783-8B7C-4C6A-838E-80C5CDF22460@charter.net> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 14:56:04 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: CHAIN -TAPE COLLECTIVE From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108761 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:56:05 +0000 (UTC) I'm pretty sure it was 1999 - I already had a computer, but it before some of us attempted (and fewer of us succeeded) in the my2k project. --=20 Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 8:10 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wr= ote: > Yesssss!!! > > And, thanks to Jim Goodin's "Reuse Recycle" project a couple of years bac= k, > I finally got to be on one. > > How many years has that been for CT Michael? > > Best, > > Ted > > On Apr 1, 2011, at 6:50 AM, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > >> HAPPY BIRTHDAY C-T C!!!!! >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 21:57:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2039D1834A1; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:57:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ORYlti8TiGhvJPGIzV15o2w+tXQ/7u0R0jzMurLdHUE=; b=HELZabTCikr1MD0c09EdCOlXujFzpguFXLeOfMf2UnozQBsthIv62ftNHqrp9I5JR3 GS5HyzLIRLnEBCRleRLIp15jg7XU3Lzq4wNA1keKJXisyTK5YJHWioTk1FP7gj106UK8 V15AWcta00ZjU8G9bAYvA3aSuWj6xkQph+9tU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=O/HuCyAA+Mgh9OSEJbpYGVeLNRSG8bMGcMQ2guDHd87JVGLDqC0odBGz74wECmNleA /jW7eXrDecBKTOJDOrQxHXr4d8KhDASOokMOFIaXVEkK/LksLVOBbSDWhKKm6RhZlh3H WlGYREkufsPUz/FYXXKLGD6vZmLW8AWfv07xg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110331123451.84p0tf7e0oww8gc4@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 14:57:29 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Video, Soul Coughing Cover :-) From: Rafael Nunes To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e646110e082d71049fe27f6c Resent-Message-ID: <9ejtf.A.pcD.KpklNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108762 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:57:30 +0000 (UTC) --0016e646110e082d71049fe27f6c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks for listening! I am a Doughty fan, though it makes me sad how much he hates on Soul Coughing nowadays. I am using a Hamer actually, though definitely a PRS knockoff. I am using Guitar Rig 4, 2 tubescreamers, delay, compressor, and the orange amp in that patch. Guitar Rig is also the source of the vocal effects. I'll be uploading some more videos from this same party soon hopefully. I'm bummed cause my talking heads cover(Born Under Punches) didn't get caught on film. Rafa On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 12:47 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > groovy brothda! > nice guitar sound,is that a PRS? are u using guitar rig? > > On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 7:34 PM, wrote: > > move aside, let the man thru.. > > > > fun cover of a great song.. :) are you a mike doughty fan as well? > > > > -cpr > > > > Quoting Rafael Nunes : > > > >> Hey Everyone, I just uploaded a Youtube video. A cover of Soul > Coughing's > >> song "Super Bon Bon", it cuts in after I recorded the drum loop. > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULNRGJtMayQ > >> > >> -- > >> Rafa's One Man Band Online: > >> http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/ > >> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239 > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwwsee6K1Sc > >> http://vimeo.com/11499020 > >> http://www.myspace.com/rafasonemanband > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- > www.luis-angulo.com > > -- Rafa's One Man Band Online: http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/ http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239 http://www.youtube.com/user/RafasOneManBand http://vimeo.com/11499020 http://www.myspace.com/rafasonemanband --0016e646110e082d71049fe27f6c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for listening!
I am a Doughty fan, though it makes me sad = how much he hates on Soul Coughing nowadays.
I am using a Hamer actuall= y, though definitely a PRS knockoff. I am using Guitar Rig 4, 2 tubescreame= rs, delay, compressor, and the orange amp in that patch. Guitar Rig is also= the source of the vocal effects. I'll be uploading some more videos fr= om this same party soon hopefully. I'm bummed cause my talking heads co= ver(Born Under Punches) didn't get caught on film.
Rafa

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 12:47 AM= , Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
groovy brothda!
nice guitar sound,is that a PRS? are u using guitar rig?

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 7:34 PM, =A0<cpr@musetrap.com> wrote:
> move aside, let the man thru..
>
> fun cover of a great song.. :) are you a mike doughty fan as well?
>
> -cpr
>
> Quoting Rafael Nunes <sup= ersimples@gmail.com>:
>
>> Hey Everyone, I just uploaded a Youtube video. A cover of Soul Cou= ghing's
>> song "Super Bon Bon", it cuts in after I recorded the dr= um loop.
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DULNRGJtMayQ
>>
>> --
>> Rafa's One Man Band Online:
>> http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/
>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/3= 3261753239
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DZwwsee6K1Sc
>> http://vim= eo.com/11499020
>> http://www.myspace.com/rafasonemanband
>>
>
>
>



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--0016e646110e082d71049fe27f6c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 22:07:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5C7A1833E9; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 22:07:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2f//Vnr4rm5EjmHyTAcIhqPnDPYygcHx30lbhNuQ4Js=; b=Gb9brUsib/w4NucH7NGfeQU9ikt3e+V58iC6ZIiw30f0H9HfyUJqW68fJDom8ophpn 1/L56mH8m5PVp6epMRBT/OZhzxDHvG+trNHL53cTAIm2Hwwu+kkTET70qSYc3hqIRRJG Wt7BfutjCsouavZwh2VFTj6LaAOKK6luSKnO8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Vq6Ky6H3M65WAGUx+bW/x4QF7YL8vxA3z1ghWYSC3FGm20YmRW0WtA3NcmdtUbhbs6 /kiadk2ArSrXOw7YqQksryiDSDkTyssE6fPR9PpZS3VqvqgZNL1MzoCAdjy0Z+qVSNRq f6mqU+rdwA62KGLMTCNgoukgTPbr8RIvN66Po= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D96150B.3000804@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 15:07:05 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Creative Alternative Tools for Guitar Looping From: Rafael Nunes To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e646110e632f2b049fe2a178 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108763 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 22:07:07 +0000 (UTC) --0016e646110e632f2b049fe2a178 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've seen Brad Barr (from The Slip) take an old strand of a broken string, and make a knot around one end and tie it loosely to his d or g string, so he could pull it back and forth, or holding while soloing, causing crazy slides and pulls to sound mid solo. He also had a tiny little handheld amp, and he would use it to feedback into his larger fender amp, while running the knotted string back and forth, making awesome long tones. On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > Tom Carter of charalambides and others played lap steel with large > pieces of sidewalk chalk, scraping them off on the strings as he went. > > Also, Nels Cline kept a large metal coil spring in his back pocket for > more string scrapes last time I saw him. > > Just to add more to the list. > > And don't forget alligator clips on the strings and chopstick in > between them (for odd whammy bar effects are various intervals) > > Kevin > > On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > > > > Speaking of cool guitar tools, like the 'Harmonics Capo' > > here's a few that that I really like and have used a lot. > > (what are some others?) > > > > > > _The 'Third Hand Capo'_ > > allows one to capo individual strings for interesting and quick 'altered > > tunings' > > > > _ > http://www.google.com/products/catalog?client=safari&rls=en&q=third+hand+capo&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=3425282320810705673&sa=X&ei=5QmWTdyzMazOiALF_OmcCQ&ved=0CE0Q8wIwAw#ps-sellers_ > > > > Only $13........this is a device that you could use multiples of for > > interesting tunings, although, in the long run, I think > > I prefer just rapidly retuning the guitar, manually. > > > > > > _The 'Piranha Bow'_ > > allows a person's strumming hand to have the texture of a bow. > Fantastic > > for rapid rhythmic work. > > > > _http://www.piranhaguitarbow.com/_ > > > > At $40, there not cheap, but he used to have a deal where he'd give you > > three if you bought two......don't know if he still honors > > that deal (I bought them for $25 at the time) but it's cool to get three > > people to go in on a buy and two of them > > played at once on an open tuned or lap steel guitar produces some very > hip > > results > > > > _'Suzuki Method 16th scale Violin Bows'_ > > > > > http://www.google.com/products/catalog?client=safari&rls=en&q=1/16th+violin+bows&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=10589079992227454761&sa=X&ei=DRCWTfCpEKXkiALdrJTgCA&ved=0CEcQ8wIwBA#ps-sellers > > > > At $19, these miniature bows are fantastic for playing electric guitar. > > I've had a lot of interesting results by using an open tuning on a guitar > > and then using > > two of them, one in each hand. You can bow rhythmically close to the > > bridge with your right hand > > and bow slowly over Barre Harmonics with the left hand to create really > > beautiful textures. > > > > Because the electric guitar neck is flat , one has three different > options > > for playing > > 1) bass lines on the lowest string 2) melodies on the highest string > > 3) full chords by playing across the whole fretboard > > > > _'Vegetable Brushes'_ > > These come in various colors and various degrees of stiffness to provide > > alternate strumming textures > > (not unlike lightly brushing over the strings with the tips of one's > > fingers) > > My wife hipped me to this approach by using a ball point pen or a drum > stick > > to rake over the strings to provide > > new 'rubato' textures for strumming.................it makes 'smears' of > > sound instead of really articulate rhythms. > > > > _'This Rad Pick that my brother gave me years ago'_ that has four > gradiated > > plastic picks on one side and three on the other so > > that every time you pick the guitar, it has the effect of a 'flam' of > four > > individual picked sounds together...... > > .......like an ersatz 48 string guitar effect. Not sure what it's > called, > > though. > > > > _'The Jellyfish Pick'_ > > > > http://www.jellifish.com/techniques/videos/bow-4-qt.html > > > > At $12 a cool pick with multiple steel rods that allows for picking or > mild > > bowing techniques > > _ > > 'Little Easter Island Tiki Head Blue Plastic Martini Stirrers'_ > > fantastically balanced to be able to play a prepared or open tuned > lapsteel > > guitar like a hammer dulcimer. > > Awesome because they can be used as a tiny slide as well as a tiny > hammers. > > > > _'Clitoral Vibrators or Egg Vibrators'_ > > especially if you can find the kind that have a short chord with a remote > > speed control. > > You just turn it on, let it dangle on a lap steel or prepared guitar and > > then fuck with the speed............very nice random stuff occurs. > > > > _"An Multiple Allen Wrench Plectrum"_ > > This was made famous by Thom Morello of Rage Against the > Machine.......you > > space the Allen wrenches out and use them as > > a 'flamming' plectrum. > > > > > > > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > -- Rafa's One Man Band Online: http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/ http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239 http://www.youtube.com/user/RafasOneManBand http://vimeo.com/11499020 http://www.myspace.com/rafasonemanband --0016e646110e632f2b049fe2a178 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've seen Brad Barr (from The Slip) take an old strand of a broken stri= ng, and make a knot around one end and tie it loosely to his d or g string,= so he could pull it back and forth, or holding while soloing, causing craz= y slides and pulls to sound mid solo. He also had a tiny little handheld am= p, and he would use it to feedback into his larger fender amp, while runnin= g the knotted string back and forth, making awesome long tones.


On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Kevin C= heli-Colando <= billowhead@gmail.com> wrote:
Tom Carter of charalambides and others played lap steel with large
pieces of sidewalk chalk, scraping them off on the strings as he went.

Also, Nels Cline kept a large metal coil spring in his back pocket for
more string scrapes last time I saw him.

Just to add more to the list.

And don't forget alligator clips on the strings and chopstick in
between them (for odd whammy bar effects are various intervals)

Kevin

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
>
> Speaking of cool guitar tools, like the 'Harmonics Capo'
> here's a few that that I really like and have used a lot.
> (what are some others?)
>
>
> _The 'Third Hand Capo'_
> allows one to capo individual strings for interesting and quick 'a= ltered
> tunings'
>
> _http://www.google.com/pr= oducts/catalog?client=3Dsafari&rls=3Den&q=3Dthird+hand+capo&oe= =3DUTF-8&um=3D1&ie=3DUTF-8&cid=3D3425282320810705673&sa=3DX= &ei=3D5QmWTdyzMazOiALF_OmcCQ&ved=3D0CE0Q8wIwAw#ps-sellers_
>
> Only $13........this is a device that you could use multiples of for > interesting tunings, =A0although, in the long run, I think
> I prefer just rapidly retuning the guitar, manually.
>
>
> _The 'Piranha Bow'_
> allows a person's strumming hand to have the texture of a bow. =A0= =A0Fantastic
> for rapid rhythmic work.
>
> _http:= //www.piranhaguitarbow.com/_
>
> At $40, there not cheap, but he used to have a deal where he'd giv= e you
> three if you bought two......don't know if he still honors
> that deal (I bought them for $25 at the time) but it's cool to get= three
> people to go in on a buy and two of them
> played at once on an open tuned or lap steel guitar produces some very= hip
> results
>
> _'Suzuki Method 16th scale Violin Bows'_
>
> http://www.google.com/= products/catalog?client=3Dsafari&rls=3Den&q=3D1/16th+violin+bows&am= p;oe=3DUTF-8&um=3D1&ie=3DUTF-8&cid=3D10589079992227454761&s= a=3DX&ei=3DDRCWTfCpEKXkiALdrJTgCA&ved=3D0CEcQ8wIwBA#ps-sellers<= br> >
> At $19, these miniature bows are fantastic for playing electric guitar= .
> I've had a lot of interesting results by using an open tuning on a= guitar
> and then using
> two of them, one in each hand. =A0 You can bow rhythmically close to t= he
> bridge with your right hand
> and bow slowly over Barre Harmonics with the left hand to create reall= y
> beautiful textures.
>
> Because the electric guitar neck is flat , one has three different opt= ions
> for playing
> 1) bass lines =A0on the lowest string =A0 =A02) =A0melodies on the hig= hest string
> =A0 3) full chords by playing across the whole fretboard
>
> _'Vegetable Brushes'_
> These come in various colors and various degrees of stiffness to provi= de
> alternate strumming textures
> (not unlike lightly brushing over the strings with the tips of one'= ;s
> fingers)
> My wife hipped me to this approach by using a ball point pen or a drum= stick
> to rake over the strings to provide
> new 'rubato' textures for strumming.................it makes &= #39;smears' of
> sound instead of really articulate rhythms.
>
> _'This Rad Pick that my brother gave me years ago'_ that has f= our gradiated
> plastic picks on one side and three on the other so
> that every time you pick the guitar, =A0it has the effect of a 'fl= am' of four
> individual picked sounds together......
> .......like an ersatz 48 string guitar effect. =A0 =A0Not sure what it= 's called,
> though.
>
> _'The Jellyfish Pick'_
>
> http://www.jellifish.com/techniques/videos/bow-4-qt.html
>
> At $12 a cool pick with multiple steel rods that allows for picking or= mild
> bowing techniques
> _
> 'Little Easter Island Tiki Head Blue Plastic Martini Stirrers'= _
> fantastically balanced to be able to play a prepared or open tuned lap= steel
> guitar like a hammer dulcimer.
> Awesome because they can be used as a tiny slide as well as a tiny ham= mers.
>
> _'Clitoral Vibrators or Egg Vibrators'_
> especially if you can find the kind that have a short chord with a rem= ote
> speed control.
> You just turn it on, =A0let it dangle on a lap steel or prepared guita= r and
> then fuck with the speed............very nice random stuff occurs.
>
> _"An Multiple Allen Wrench Plectrum"_
> This was made famous by Thom Morello of Rage Against the Machine......= .you
> space the Allen wrenches out and use them as
> a 'flamming' plectrum.
>
>



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Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.<= br>
- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org
Video = http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos




--
Rafa's One M= an Band Online:
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--0016e646110e632f2b049fe2a178-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 22:12:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF232183486; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 22:12:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 591267002/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.27.197/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.27.197 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArICABBNlk1YbRvF/2dsb2JhbAAMmFjPKIVrBJBo X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,284,1299456000"; d="scan'208";a="591267002" Message-ID: <4D964DC8.9050202@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2011 23:12:24 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Creative Alternative Tools for Guitar Looping References: <4D96150B.3000804@cruzio.com> <4F063A36-CB54-48C7-9D99-AB8E9B72D4D8@mancingdolecules.com> In-Reply-To: <4F063A36-CB54-48C7-9D99-AB8E9B72D4D8@mancingdolecules.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108764 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 22:12:24 +0000 (UTC) Raphaël - Mancing Dolecules wrote: > The Piranha Bow looks very interesting to me. I was looking for an "e-bow like thing" for nylon string guitars, do you know if it would work with them ? It's not ebow like really. No long sustains. ...I couldn't get a tremolando(sp?) effect out of it either. It works for rhythmic playing, but needs plenty of rosin...which then gums up the strings. ...but it certainly works on any string. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 23:28:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F683183453; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 23:28:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 997545.9116.bm@omp1008.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1301700518; bh=TebtWOuH7MIKqtRcszO3e3z/R14YttsfMw8qhdNMmuM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=s6hju/UbrQsicqgpIJxVqodYDy/8BrNm9+dbn4++x2RQYz2/tvreSiCn9ePamFrTdpxaSTmVi4cj1z9HoW17TL8JqXbjjPpt8/BwmKQ+xrnnKK2mpbpGcIfJO+YAFdbTpK6MF63wglkM59al3shuVqxUQp1yPZh7NbAEr+A30Zs= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kitSd7jtVebJ4VYCUvvXkjd5nkNqpwCIr0DUproVKZxEKG24MWX17ikqPd7TblEdgJs2QOSpGD6Tw5txICeGXZBgNrqPuZVlG7haenb+qrHwElqZaPkgSt3ueYk3oHNugp/wvIHA30a/9g2XmnrxfYHWi2g6K71ABm1V7iMPhXY=; Message-ID: <831792.46720.qm@web45913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: aB2.mV0VM1n6n5yN0WrokzjT4VdP3yhbXi9nWpmXO9fP34K qRfphpSrRyBaAFrQZfuYeZOk_Qgosb8p7_cVI3XNw6KsX6sKAEC4eGpDvyjB YzjVf842U5oiBDuHqW_yCkL93c64n8AXQ70sIh8N6Tca9X.cuH6oPT_Jnev3 3JA8xkUZxFx.UuwTjgQnKeeLp26Vz6gjy118qeWGnFTCN8uFjDzT7BCjagRN hjfXvRBQYWeDdUYYOW1_WZBpAJxS0EdN_hzGxyXScXIykfmVhzHc1UD.lSmS Z8oFOpXLueqBFawonBX_gqsh22AvHW7_qkzihOiLpiNgedoYgUyXcm3JXwS4 iKEBmR9vClvBSv6aasmYG0JTSUlI- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 References: <4D96150B.3000804@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 16:28:38 -0700 (PDT) From: E Gross Subject: Re: Creative Alternative Tools for Guitar Looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1060733503-1301700518=:46720" Resent-Message-ID: <9m0B2D.A.KkF.o-llNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108765 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 23:28:41 +0000 (UTC) --0-1060733503-1301700518=:46720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii wow what a great thread thanks so much for the tips. I saw the bluesman Clarence Gatemouth Brown play with a handkerchief lightly tucked between strings up near the nut, got some nice percussive banjo-esque sounds. Whenever I tried it I could never make it sound the same........ --0-1060733503-1301700518=:46720 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
wow what a great thread thanks so much for the tips.

I saw the bluesman Clarence Gatemouth Brown play with a handkerchief lightly tucked between strings up near the nut, got some nice percussive banjo-esque sounds. Whenever I tried it I could never make it sound the same........


--0-1060733503-1301700518=:46720-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 1 23:53:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7200618349D; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 23:53:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Creative Alternative Tools for Guitar Looping References: <4D96150B.3000804@cruzio.com> <4F063A36-CB54-48C7-9D99-AB8E9B72D4D8@mancingdolecules.com> <4D964DC8.9050202@tiscali.co.uk> thread-topic: Creative Alternative Tools for Guitar Looping thread-index: Acvwx/Tnej6nfPPLSuaG4lR2dsmKWA== From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <4D964DC8.9050202@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 19:53:04 -0400 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Apr 2011 23:53:36.0540 (UTC) FILETIME=[043CA5C0:01CBF0C8] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108766 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 23:53:38 +0000 (UTC) See, hamsters dont leave gummy residue, residue, but not gummy. I am thinkin= g hamster rolling cage with picks mounted to strum!!! You know how the lumberjacks roll logs in water? Wonder if we could train a h= amster to log roll a round metal slide up and down the lapsteel? Man I am go= nna try that!! Andy o= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 2 01:08:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C15218349D; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 01:08:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Hr6dyWpLEvoC5DgYH5MAI1nQ8htJggI2Z845pjI+QF0=; b=VirY4JK5vlGKsh6fpFx6quaqhaVB7SzesKtaSiWB7Y1T52LCI0g5XO6zvpnW9Bb+gK i0Rn1SP9c1F2EDpWd9g1n08tGlXSw3ehKjVUM43buYEEUbXGf0masw7coR6k9ku9H1Ql 7hMaVs+yvOx9KfFylhQJXI2dY6mYpVs/FX70M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DFbkfn9VwkeY4za1cWyoAcdqQp48PPSwWm3vMMF+v77eG8b1q+M8USJnC5c9k7tTaY XLMqLkTizaRYp1ps6EZEqZTJrkP+I+XDFIx+2eOqq85CyXms+4bb31bxEAWDW9brQcsY Wmt8T7+oRWPsJf4BytQOXt6vQdQtD8kOAvMFQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <899A261D23DC4F02AB1458A1ACCD8BCE@ELUK1> References: <69583.61920.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <899A261D23DC4F02AB1458A1ACCD8BCE@ELUK1> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 19:08:36 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT support for DAWs From: Dennis Moser To: Stephen Goodman Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108767 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 01:08:38 +0000 (UTC) Third that on Reaper...like Tony said, GREAT price, fully functioning demo and runs on almost anything. Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > I=92ll second that on Reaper.=A0 I=92ve had no problems with it in 32-bit= or > 64-bit Windows 7.=A0 Also I can=92t recommend FL Studio enough. > > From: Tony K > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 6:18 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: OT support for DAWs > > I would absolutely take a look at Reaper http://www.reaper.fm/ > > pricing is great, free demo (no limited functionality) forever.=A0 Suppor= t is > through their forum and is very good (and free!) > > > > On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 1:06 PM, tim echols wrote: >> >> =A0=A0 i am having some problems getting my new computer set up with pro >> tools.=A0 i haven't the money at present to purchase pro tools 9.0, but = i went >> ahead when i had the money and got a computer that was compatible, in pa= rt >> because pro tools actually had support staff that helped me to optimize = the >> laptop i had been using for their product, by doing online diagnostics w= hile >> talking to me by phone.=A0 i told him of my future plans to get the comp= uter i >> now have, and he said he would hold the case open for me.=A0 admittedly,= this >> was in december.=A0 when i went back, now that it is offseason and i hav= e the >> time to get the whole system of computer, a delta 1010 and pro tools wor= king >> together, i am blocked from support by a paywall.=A0 and it is not like = pro >> tools is working and i just wantto optimize--=A0 i have no sound through= pro >> tools, can't rewire reason properly as a plug in, can't access but 2 of = the >> 8 inouts on the delta 1010, and my sound just playing files >> suffers randomly after i use pro tools upon random startups afterwards. >> at this point i am seriously regretting getting my computer specifically >> because my experience with support was so positive at pro tools.=A0 they= are >> charging PER INCIDENT at a rate of $30 for the level i am at now--=A0 i = didn't >> even look up the rates for pro tools 9.0. >> =A0=A0=A0 so, does anyone have experience with the support of other DAWs= ? i am >> looking around after this incident, because i will be in the market this >> summer, and would like to know how other companies compare vis a vis >> support.=A0 pro tools 9.0 comes with a 30 day code for support, but i wi= ll be >> at the peak of my job when i can afford to buy it, so if i am going to h= ave >> to wait until next year at this time to install it when i have both mone= y >> and time, i am gong to compare the support of other DAWs in my search fo= r a >> potential new platform.=A0 so, please-- i would like to hear what platfo= rm >> people use and about their experiences (or lack thereof) with support.= =A0 it >> seems a sea change in policy at pro tools--=A0 like they have decided to= take >> the attitude that it is better to "make money off of repairs" rather tha= n >> make a good product and support it.=A0 yes, i know how much support cost= s a >> company.=A0 i just want to hear other people's experiences.=A0 since thi= s is a >> recording question, not a looping question, i labeled it off topic. >> >> >> time >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- > Tony > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 2 02:15:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0ECE518349D; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 02:15:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+7+xZ0EtnZWU5EcDimUXARQmt3yIfa67pCq2fwePdu8=; b=BALLMq1vvzOBezWpbur83aslLKqxmxPcVB1bsckfOmExuncPEMo7vZvB9l011ojWgf cdKFWdG194sQ9BzIWfshpPT3be/jmb6BDXq5Apr9lR5wxGfAOvQ/KcqqN4botXS4njry c48dLMN6I92wkyKtlJSddDcotzhVbmv9DM+FY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=x6XpJXNc+YGnrClMgBXmYlZgVegUMOGpuPtMgGnKb54YPG8tCh+HV1fbPhz9zYE93c nTUX5WXK8fqW+PNP0XZZ10KKEnMxEUko+pZ4l9W8aiFe+fyXqfsd8Xh0ru1qGYepha7U 15GD/shRWM21k4xJ81VcRCXx7EpxSFJDPrcrw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <69583.61920.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <899A261D23DC4F02AB1458A1ACCD8BCE@ELUK1> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 22:15:40 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT support for DAWs From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d64c28591b38049fe61a7e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108768 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 02:15:41 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d64c28591b38049fe61a7e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 All that and Reaper comes complete with the Ninjam vst! For me it's the only way to Ninjam and then you can remix the whole session as you like. Best deal going bar none, imho :) Jeff On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Dennis Moser wrote: > Third that on Reaper...like Tony said, GREAT price, fully functioning > demo and runs on almost anything. > > Best, > > Dennis > > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > --0016e6d64c28591b38049fe61a7e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All that and Reaper comes complete with the Ninjam vst! For me it's the= only way to Ninjam and then you can remix the whole session as you like. B= est deal going bar none, imho :)

Jeff

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> = wrote:
Third that on Reaper...like Tony said, GREAT price, fully functioning
demo and runs on almost anything.

Best,

Dennis

http://soundclo= ud.com/usrsbin
http://audiozoloft.com=
http://usrsla= shsbin.angrek.com/


--0016e6d64c28591b38049fe61a7e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 2 03:15:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB96E183453; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 03:15:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=+ZIYoI1GuFKopAHeFmcB7NeZ3MfwRMgZ3TEz9Y4665U=; b=swtZNsYDVj5NoflpO93g1lB4IHR+Zwg/Rfbv7MmMerZg3psOAZym+ijuYouqHGknMy sXdg+B6z02mekOm5TU/J7MiMRtXjf5IkJ24q9f+xckiKuZBcTZABfNzkkmYrXOCDe8bX yxTkw7cvktq1Zrn+UVyc5nIICmI2A+EUKl/IE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Bm80ATWIImlU/AYNhkovfzKwa22dcMYMVC+X9R3fFpRLwShUZMsYpBSFMsaLgHY4Gy VOzVxdftFGy977OPl39M1AzJI28H3yKAAs0n9eXwS+I8PhLah/S7YgZnAy0LxKZTFJTd yWj4byU8eTFD6+fGxZ4MDI0otDTQtNw0eV0hg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <99DC589DA80E41E4BC3FCE3D35F827D3@ELUK1> References: <707730.95893.qm@web111503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <99DC589DA80E41E4BC3FCE3D35F827D3@ELUK1> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 20:15:34 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Fripps April Fools Day From: Art Simon To: Stephen Goodman Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <1D0MNB.A.jhB.YTplNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108769 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 03:15:36 +0000 (UTC) Wow, as far as I can tell the broadcast is in mono. I wanted to believe it though, I like binaural recording. I guess I should have got the joke when someone said that binaural was quite complicated and that they had to work out four different equations involving crosstalk distortion. Of course it ends with the quote "I don't really think this is a vast improvement." On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > Nobody can say RF doesn=92t have a sense of humor, now. > > From: Matthew Stevens > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:57 PM > To: progressivemusicsociety@yahoogroups.com > Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Fripps April Fools Day > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_9442000/9442861.stm > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 2 08:21:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A56418349C; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 08:21:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D96DC7B.5070304@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 04:21:15 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Thought Radio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108770 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 08:21:19 +0000 (UTC) THOUGHT RADIO: http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio ======================================================================= My next stint on Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show, will be Saturday, April 2 at 6 am EDT/GMT-4. I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs in Phase One. I host the show every other week. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 2 09:37:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E0BB618349D; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 09:37:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <1134136846.425109.1301666408322.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OMG OT: Harmonic Capo X-AOL-IP: 75.25.97.215 In-Reply-To: <1134136846.425109.1301666408322.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Patrick Bishop X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CDBF30B86563DB_21CC_1C03_webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33490-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CDBF30B84D95CB-21CC-10E6@webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [75.25.97.215] Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 05:37:30 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 1:2:450392960:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 1 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338e4d96ee5a5963 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108771 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 09:37:37 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CDBF30B86563DB_21CC_1C03_webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Let us know if this works for you or ends up in the basement in the corner = w/ your "bedazzler" and "pocket fisherman". PJ -----Original Message----- From: Christophe To: Loopers-Delight Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:08 am Subject: Re: OMG OT: Harmonic Capo Hi Rick, Thanks for the review! I've seen them advertised but have been wary as "no= velty" items like his have a bad habit of disappointing I probably would h= ave gotten one eventually in any case since it's not exactly a huge investm= ent. With your glowing endorsement, though, I'm ordering one today! As I'= ve been thinking about it I'm really keen to see how it will work out on a = 12 string too. :-) Chr =20 ----------MB_8CDBF30B86563DB_21CC_1C03_webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Let us know if this works f= or you or ends up in the basement in the corner w/ your "bedazzler" and "po= cket fisherman".

3D":-)" PJ



-----= Original Message-----
From: Christophe <cburke55@comcast.net>
To: Loopers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:08 am
Subject: Re: OMG OT: Harmonic Capo

Hi Rick,=

Thanks for the review!  I've seen them advertised but have been wary a= s "novelty" items like his have a bad habit of disappointing  I probab= ly would have gotten one eventually in any case since it's not exactly a hu= ge investment.  With your glowing endorsement, though, I'm ordering on= e today!  As I've been thinking about it I'm really keen to see how it= will work out on a 12 string too.  :-)

Chr
----------MB_8CDBF30B86563DB_21CC_1C03_webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 2 09:51:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A645E18349D; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 09:51:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <4D96150B.3000804@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Creative Alternative Tools for Guitar Looping X-AOL-IP: 75.25.97.215 In-Reply-To: <4D96150B.3000804@cruzio.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Patrick Bishop X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CDBF32A731D167_21CC_1E3F_webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33490-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CDBF32A4A0D5E7-21CC-1304@webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [75.25.97.215] Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 05:51:20 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 1:2:431549568:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 1 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338b4d96f1986ede Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108772 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 09:51:27 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CDBF32A731D167_21CC_1E3F_webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I like to use a green alligator shaped cocktail stirrer for bowing. Egg whi= sks, chopsticks, legos, and toothbrushes can also be used imaginatively on = guitars. Toilet paper rolls can be used for bowing or as slides. Bob the Bu= ilder would definitely approve! PJ -----Original Message----- From: Rick Walker To: LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2011 10:10 am Subject: Creative Alternative Tools for Guitar Looping Speaking of cool guitar tools, like the 'Harmonics Capo' here's a few that that I really like and have used a lot. (what are some others?) _The 'Third Hand Capo'_ allows one to capo individual strings for interesting and quick 'altered=20 tunings' _http://www.google.com/products/catalog?client=3Dsafari&rls=3Den&q=3Dthird+= hand+capo&oe=3DUTF-8&um=3D1&ie=3DUTF-8&cid=3D3425282320810705673&sa=3DX&ei= =3D5QmWTdyzMazOiALF_OmcCQ&ved=3D0CE0Q8wIwAw#ps-sellers_ Only $13........this is a device that you could use multiples of for=20 interesting tunings, although, in the long run, I think I prefer just rapidly retuning the guitar, manually. _The 'Piranha Bow'_ allows a person's strumming hand to have the texture of a bow. =20 Fantastic for rapid rhythmic work. _http://www.piranhaguitarbow.com/_ At $40, there not cheap, but he used to have a deal where he'd give you=20 three if you bought two......don't know if he still honors that deal (I bought them for $25 at the time) but it's cool to get three=20 people to go in on a buy and two of them played at once on an open tuned or lap steel guitar produces some very=20 hip results _'Suzuki Method 16th scale Violin Bows'_ http://www.google.com/products/catalog?client=3Dsafari&rls=3Den&q=3D1/16th+= violin+bows&oe=3DUTF-8&um=3D1&ie=3DUTF-8&cid=3D10589079992227454761&sa=3DX&= ei=3DDRCWTfCpEKXkiALdrJTgCA&ved=3D0CEcQ8wIwBA#ps-sellers At $19, these miniature bows are fantastic for playing electric guitar. I've had a lot of interesting results by using an open tuning on a=20 guitar and then using two of them, one in each hand. You can bow rhythmically close to the=20 bridge with your right hand and bow slowly over Barre Harmonics with the left hand to create really=20 beautiful textures. Because the electric guitar neck is flat , one has three different=20 options for playing 1) bass lines on the lowest string 2) melodies on the highest=20 string 3) full chords by playing across the whole fretboard _'Vegetable Brushes'_ These come in various colors and various degrees of stiffness to provide=20 alternate strumming textures (not unlike lightly brushing over the strings with the tips of one's=20 fingers) My wife hipped me to this approach by using a ball point pen or a drum=20 stick to rake over the strings to provide new 'rubato' textures for strumming.................it makes 'smears' of=20 sound instead of really articulate rhythms. _'This Rad Pick that my brother gave me years ago'_ that has four=20 gradiated plastic picks on one side and three on the other so that every time you pick the guitar, it has the effect of a 'flam' of=20 four individual picked sounds together...... .......like an ersatz 48 string guitar effect. Not sure what it's=20 called, though. _'The Jellyfish Pick'_ http://www.jellifish.com/techniques/videos/bow-4-qt.html At $12 a cool pick with multiple steel rods that allows for picking or=20 mild bowing techniques _ 'Little Easter Island Tiki Head Blue Plastic Martini Stirrers'_ fantastically balanced to be able to play a prepared or open tuned=20 lapsteel guitar like a hammer dulcimer. Awesome because they can be used as a tiny slide as well as a tiny hammers. _'Clitoral Vibrators or Egg Vibrators'_ especially if you can find the kind that have a short chord with a=20 remote speed control. You just turn it on, let it dangle on a lap steel or prepared guitar=20 and then fuck with the speed............very nice random stuff occurs. _"An Multiple Allen Wrench Plectrum"_ This was made famous by Thom Morello of Rage Against the=20 Machine.......you space the Allen wrenches out and use them as a 'flamming' plectrum. =20 ----------MB_8CDBF32A731D167_21CC_1E3F_webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" I like to use a green allig= ator shaped cocktail stirrer for bowing. Egg whisks, chopsticks, legos, and= toothbrushes can also be used imaginatively on guitars. Toilet paper rolls= can be used for bowing or as slides. Bob the Builder would definitely appr= ove!

PJ



-----= Original Message-----
From: Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>
To: LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2011 10:10 am
Subject: Creative Alternative Tools for Guitar Looping


Speaking of cool guitar tools, like the 'Harmonics Capo'
here's a few that that I really like and have used a lot.
(what are some others?)


_The 'Third Hand Capo'_
allows one to capo individual strings for interesting and quick 'altered=20
tunings'

_http://www.google.com/product=
s/catalog?client=3Dsafari&rls=3Den&q=3Dthird+hand+capo&oe=3DUTF=
-8&um=3D1&ie=3DUTF-8&cid=3D3425282320810705673&sa=3DX&e=
i=3D5QmWTdyzMazOiALF_OmcCQ&ved=3D0CE0Q8wIwAw#ps-sellers_

Only $13........this is a device that you could use multiples of for=20
interesting tunings,  although, in the long run, I think
I prefer just rapidly retuning the guitar, manually.


_The 'Piranha Bow'_
allows a person's strumming hand to have the texture of a bow.   =20
Fantastic for rapid rhythmic work.

_http://www=
.piranhaguitarbow.com/_

At $40, there not cheap, but he used to have a deal where he'd give you=20
three if you bought two......don't know if he still honors
that deal (I bought them for $25 at the time) but it's cool to get three=20
people to go in on a buy and two of them
played at once on an open tuned or lap steel guitar produces some very=20
hip results

_'Suzuki Method 16th scale Violin Bows'_

http://www.google.com/pro=
ducts/catalog?client=3Dsafari&rls=3Den&q=3D1/16th+violin+bows&o=
e=3DUTF-8&um=3D1&ie=3DUTF-8&cid=3D10589079992227454761&sa=
=3DX&ei=3DDRCWTfCpEKXkiALdrJTgCA&ved=3D0CEcQ8wIwBA#ps-sellers

At $19, these miniature bows are fantastic for playing electric guitar.
I've had a lot of interesting results by using an open tuning on a=20
guitar and then using
two of them, one in each hand.   You can bow rhythmically close to the=20
bridge with your right hand
and bow slowly over Barre Harmonics with the left hand to create really=20
beautiful textures.

Because the electric guitar neck is flat , one has three different=20
options for playing
1) bass lines  on the lowest string    2)  melodies on the highest=20
string     3) full chords by playing across the whole fretboard

_'Vegetable Brushes'_
These come in various colors and various degrees of stiffness to provide=20
alternate strumming textures
(not unlike lightly brushing over the strings with the tips of one's=20
fingers)
My wife hipped me to this approach by using a ball point pen or a drum=20
stick to rake over the strings to provide
new 'rubato' textures for strumming.................it makes 'smears' of=20
sound instead of really articulate rhythms.

_'This Rad Pick that my brother gave me years ago'_ that has four=20
gradiated plastic picks on one side and three on the other so
that every time you pick the guitar,  it has the effect of a 'flam' of=20
four individual picked sounds together......
.......like an ersatz 48 string guitar effect.    Not sure what it's=20
called, though.

_'The Jellyfish Pick'_

http://www.jellifish.com/techniques/videos/bow-4-qt.html

At $12 a cool pick with multiple steel rods that allows for picking or=20
mild bowing techniques
_
'Little Easter Island Tiki Head Blue Plastic Martini Stirrers'_
fantastically balanced to be able to play a prepared or open tuned=20
lapsteel guitar like a hammer dulcimer.
Awesome because they can be used as a tiny slide as well as a tiny hammers.

_'Clitoral Vibrators or Egg Vibrators'_
especially if you can find the kind that have a short chord with a=20
remote speed control.
You just turn it on,  let it dangle on a lap steel or prepared guitar=20
and then fuck with the speed............very nice random stuff occurs.

_"An Multiple Allen Wrench Plectrum"_
This was made famous by Thom Morello of Rage Against the=20
Machine.......you space the Allen wrenches out and use them as
a 'flamming' plectrum.
----------MB_8CDBF32A731D167_21CC_1E3F_webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 2 10:23:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA9A718349D; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 10:23:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <4D96150B.3000804@cruzio.com> <831792.46720.qm@web45913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Creative Alternative Tools for Guitar Looping X-AOL-IP: 75.25.97.215 In-Reply-To: <831792.46720.qm@web45913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Patrick Bishop X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CDBF372508E347_21CC_2337_webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33490-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CDBF3721F03967-21CC-17D4@webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [75.25.97.215] Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 06:23:29 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 1:2:463651520:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 1 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290d4d96f9216746 Resent-Message-ID: <5JxNVD.A.gr.jkvlNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108773 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 10:23:31 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CDBF372508E347_21CC_2337_webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" For authentic bluesy hanky sounds you need to blow your nose at midnight in= the middle of a cemetery with some chicken hearts in your back pocket. The= n, and only then, will your hanky have the percussive banjo or reso sounds = you crave! PJ -----Original Message----- From: E Gross To: Loopers-Delight Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2011 3:28 pm Subject: Re: Creative Alternative Tools for Guitar Looping wow what a great thread thanks so much for the tips. I saw the bluesman Clarence Gatemouth Brown play with a handkerchief lightl= y tucked between strings up near the nut, got some nice percussive banjo-es= que sounds. Whenever I tried it I could never make it sound the same.......= . =20 =20 ----------MB_8CDBF372508E347_21CC_2337_webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" For authentic bluesy hanky sounds <= /font>you need to blow your nose at midnight in the middle of a cemetery wi= th some chicken hearts in your back pocket. Then, and only then, will your = hanky have the percussive banjo or reso sounds you crave!

3D":-)" PJ



-----= Original Message-----
From: E Gross <slapbandjam@yahoo.com>
To: Loopers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2011 3:28 pm
Subject: Re: Creative Alternative Tools for Guitar Looping

wow what a great thread thanks so much for the tips.

I saw the bluesman Clarence Gatemouth Brown play with a handkerchief lightl= y tucked between strings up near the nut, got some nice percussive banjo-es= que sounds. Whenever I tried it I could never make it sound the same.......= .


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----------MB_8CDBF372508E347_21CC_2337_webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 2 10:35:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2BDDF18349D; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 10:35:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:references:from:content-type :in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=VwyJY4dpoMpAlne7Ac/D1NG6Q7ApZfVyrlEV8LS4l3M=; b=kPfWsvikP1i99PI+dfRh3EP+5Mt1gTSwSYE0pmHNDJcdc3ZZQypuVt27m3qka0UnpV +u10RNnWT7CtL0Bfz29cgyagGgF0C0tsfKx+KnZjR0EH5xuaF3bpDNEWISb2T6J4tI9g qNy/6HIBOdu1MWo1QeVde2MGfOFzSLkQwqTcc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:in-reply-to:message-id:date:to :mime-version:x-mailer; b=IPvumaSEeF5DvU3hrFTupKzFK4SSIvnaFCAUUbw19Y9uqo3eYvidpkod0MWRwVa3cg YwT6B6KNzeqU1Dt+8EiIGuahU0dOdMxIYa1Fiq8KB+y8HqcSpIyUxU9YPIs87XrfCMPu evRwHTWpi3kbXm2xaxlVn7TyEY82T7l752tu4= Subject: Re: Creative Alternative Tools for Guitar Looping References: <4D96150B.3000804@cruzio.com> <831792.46720.qm@web45913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <8CDBF3721F03967-21CC-17D4@webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com> From: doc rossi Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-19--836719921 In-Reply-To: <8CDBF3721F03967-21CC-17D4@webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com> Message-Id: Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 12:35:10 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <_Tn2iD.A.C6.tvvlNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108774 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 10:35:25 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-19--836719921 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii it works for me... On Apr 2, 2011, at 12:23 PM, Patrick Bishop wrote: > For authentic bluesy hanky sounds you need to blow your nose at = midnight in the middle of a cemetery with some chicken hearts in your = back pocket. Then, and only then, will your hanky have the percussive = banjo or reso sounds you crave! >=20 > PJ >=20 >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: E Gross > To: Loopers-Delight > Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2011 3:28 pm > Subject: Re: Creative Alternative Tools for Guitar Looping >=20 > wow what a great thread thanks so much for the tips. >=20 > I saw the bluesman Clarence Gatemouth Brown play with a handkerchief = lightly tucked between strings up near the nut, got some nice percussive = banjo-esque sounds. Whenever I tried it I could never make it sound the = same........ >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-19--836719921 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii it works for me...

On Apr 2, 2011, at 12:23 PM, Patrick Bishop wrote:

For authentic bluesy hanky sounds you need to blow your nose at midnight in the middle of a cemetery with some chicken hearts in your back pocket. Then, and only then, will your hanky have the percussive banjo or reso sounds you crave!

:-) PJ



-----Original Message-----
From: E Gross <slapbandjam@yahoo.com>
To: Loopers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2011 3:28 pm
Subject: Re: Creative Alternative Tools for Guitar Looping

wow what a great thread thanks so much for the tips.

I saw the bluesman Clarence Gatemouth Brown play with a handkerchief lightly tucked between strings up near the nut, got some nice percussive banjo-esque sounds. Whenever I tried it I could never make it sound the same........



--Apple-Mail-19--836719921-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 2 11:38:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A9CE18349D; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 11:38:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D970AB7.3060806@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 04:38:31 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrick Bishop CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: OMG OT: Harmonic Capo References: <8CDBF30B84D95CB-21CC-10E6@webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CDBF30B84D95CB-21CC-10E6@webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108775 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 11:38:41 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Patrick Bishop wrote: > Let us know if this works for you or ends up in the basement in the > corner w/ your "bedazzler" and "pocket fisherman". > > :-) PJ It is what it is and it isn't the second coming, but I"m having a wonderful time with it. I'll try to get off my butt and at least post an improv (please forgive the small amount of live looping involved) in the next few days. It's more than a gimmick, I promise you, and well worth the price. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 2 12:41:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A9D618349D; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 12:41:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 12:41:46 +0000 (UTC) From: Christophe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <1306441264.477766.1301748106144.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <8CDBF30B84D95CB-21CC-10E6@webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com> Subject: Re: OMG OT: Harmonic Capo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_477765_1008719126.1301748106143" X-Originating-IP: [76.19.108.136] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.5_GA_2431.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/6.0.5_GA_2427.RHEL4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108776 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 12:41:46 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_477765_1008719126.1301748106143 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit But wait! There's more! If you order right now, we'll throw in a second Harmonic Capo absolutely free! You just pay shipping and handling! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Bishop" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2011 5:37:30 AM Subject: Re: OMG OT: Harmonic Capo Let us know if this works for you or ends up in the basement in the corner w/ your "bedazzler" and "pocket fisherman". :-)PJ -----Original Message----- From: Christophe To: Loopers-Delight Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:08 am Subject: Re: OMG OT: Harmonic Capo Hi Rick, Thanks for the review! I've seen them advertised but have been wary as "novelty" items like his have a bad habit of disappointing I probably would have gotten one eventually in any case since it's not exactly a huge investment. With your glowing endorsement, though, I'm ordering one today! As I've been thinking about it I'm really keen to see how it will work out on a 12 string too. :-) Chr ------=_Part_477765_1008719126.1301748106143 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
But wait!  There's more!  If you order right now, we'll throw in a second Harmonic Capo absolutely free!  You just pay shipping and handling!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Bishop" <pjbmhb@aol.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2011 5:37:30 AM
Subject: Re: OMG OT: Harmonic Capo

Let us know if this works for you or ends up in the basement in the corner w/ your "bedazzler" and "pocket fisherman".

:-) PJ

-----Original Message-----
From: Christophe <cburke55@comcast.net>
To: Loopers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:08 am
Subject: Re: OMG OT: Harmonic Capo

Hi Rick,

Thanks for the review!  I've seen them advertised but have been wary as "novelty" items like his have a bad habit of disappointing  I probably would have gotten one eventually in any case since it's not exactly a huge investment.  With your glowing endorsement, though, I'm ordering one today!  As I've been thinking about it I'm really keen to see how it will work out on a 12 string too.  :-)

Chr
------=_Part_477765_1008719126.1301748106143-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 2 12:45:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C971818349D; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 12:45:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Sender: Catch All Subject: Re: Everyday Looper - A Looper for the iPhone/iPod Touch Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--828933541 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rapha=EBl_-_Mancing_Dolecules?= In-Reply-To: <02F1481A-3ADB-4032-A79A-1B4833E079D9@mancingdolecules.com> Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 14:44:57 +0200 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: <773DB175-89C2-4BCE-8FF8-D61D3C3910B3@mancingdolecules.com> References: <225f88f01001291525o6b149258te14cf58a07bd7bfb@mail.gmail.com> <9C6A27D96FC14122B43ACCE474B95897@ELUK1> <225f88f01001300732w10311b23w165909a99b65b192@mail.gmail.com> <225f88f01002140719y223da619h13c1035b697963c1@mail.gmail.com> <972820.75640.qm@web45911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <02F1481A-3ADB-4032-A79A-1B4833E079D9@mancingdolecules.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108777 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 12:45:00 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--828933541 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I just released version 1.4 of Everyday Looper. It adds : - Overdub Recording - Chained Recording - Usability Tweaks But the best way to figure out all that is probably to watch this video = made by Edouard 'Ed' Joguet : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dnh2FHIZWfJE= . It's pretty entertaining I think ^^. Cheers :) ! Rapha=EBl= --Apple-Mail-2--828933541 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 http://www.youtube.c= om/watch?v=3Dnh2FHIZWfJE .

It's pretty = entertaining I think ^^.

Cheers :) = !

Rapha=EBl
= --Apple-Mail-2--828933541-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 2 12:46:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F054018349D; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 12:46:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=vkZdLflJzxTpP4xCrCsclg9rAkqHfP6haukXc1Gd+gY=; b=J9IK32X6VZmHIoZNTA/9vWuoYDKS7IUhJ+i4rHmI2tZnE7zVLYkvCNCVyeNK1cQqrS kXEm4OuG0ZdJtKHg86ZkhZmeeYv3zOQQ88BwOFOSFyj33EPJRhyGN9Y+dRdI63fhB2l3 97hKoabXsWNInwrfLHC1Yf1jMMh8XpynbRaSA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=GildThl3N7wRR6XAkDN4quj5cdgvwgDckbr1+R7muPrXuvUYLnxiNFJM9UKFFOKPce gFhyQwNnXGowj2/KmTwieUok5LTNf22pySAkzph3IRyIhTk/0uITTprOW8isi91X9veT 7yg6m1Q8Q2O4/zTtCEGmkj87hpONkkhHWqGQE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 13:46:16 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: another quick mobius in ableton question From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd5945293a3c4049feee96e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108778 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 12:46:17 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd5945293a3c4049feee96e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 managed to set up mobius nicely and using it as the sync master. i have ableton receiving clock via the iac bus and syncing any inserted plugins, but the clock that ableton is getting is all over the place...as much as 0.5bpm either side of what mobius says it's sending out. is there anything i can do to remedy this? i know augustus looper has a parameter called "rounded tempos for live". anything similar in mobius, or can i configure ableton somehow? many thanks! sim --000e0cd5945293a3c4049feee96e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable managed to set up mobius nicely and using it as the sync master. i have abl= eton receiving clock via the iac bus and syncing any inserted plugins, but = the clock that ableton is getting is all over the place...as much as 0.5bpm= either side of what mobius says it's sending out. is there anything i = can do to remedy this? i know augustus looper has a parameter called "= rounded tempos for live". anything similar in mobius, or can i configu= re ableton somehow?

many thanks!

sim
--000e0cd5945293a3c4049feee96e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 2 14:26:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D4E818349C; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 14:26:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 602830.90472.bm@omp1017.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1301754362; bh=a50tLD2Qg6HmIzFAe/FxqqVPgkrVrO2IV4u2aucK3uM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=aibPLOqKu9mo3sZBzBvQsIEhhjaJUIf6fPlgAgit+7bV1fQP8MLI1OvWpzWwcGqHT7p9U0wLwnY3gPLpASFeExKyNgxQlkrIk73Rpkqx5t68ALZRuIQAhCfTcjTljZqhAcezX02OrSu+ctCL4oolv9Xni6BjU/mv7gsDMro/8LQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JM0qfHFyDxWwARlwmwbP3l4HIHnOrAJfjBSS0K7VofhypsvNERubXWRs7X9WjAq80VChmzWnslISVT+MJeev2iLiLObGXUGBX7oACkncuY3lVEmL4hRUffRRFV5gyWNtcrk4nuJ2opC5fYJthroy8uQtpb8Fd3OmLZUtgAuI5VM=; Message-ID: <31708.49803.qm@web45910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: VvFgyG0VM1mEpTCIjz9p9kvI3nJcqIAow.HV8LsXF_wTvqu 2nCc.u1Qn.jzmFUeXmIWT0Cd3E4eHusYtjOTiDqmn9SCz_.EpX.1ifA8w2c1 wMtWwgMeSl5XY2TCvJn8pB1XWnixkrquZrgrMaEmTKGDPCDBkcPEQKAFY6ru VlUV90CEW9yjeAXRT_LB7_pfBw4v3PcJ0WJh5tampmJE2MKjU4IRM2cTCJua DsEH7C2aP_wF6fPa0A8ZIdpI653dHaxT._eTvf3_9XbDlAnRSXT6v7u0oPRS ltwEcqGrNEBM5lOCk6jThkZED3SwriCalHdWmOqIrNUoMDVUbjl3bVtN6b5. NaX.zwMX3zlSWxOibnvr4uWWvwbuB X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 References: <4D96150B.3000804@cruzio.com> <831792.46720.qm@web45913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <8CDBF3721F03967-21CC-17D4@webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 07:25:56 -0700 (PDT) From: E Gross Subject: Re: Creative Alternative Tools for Guitar Looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <8CDBF3721F03967-21CC-17D4@webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1230329658-1301754356=:49803" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108779 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 14:26:09 +0000 (UTC) --0-1230329658-1301754356=:49803 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dammit! No wonder it never worked for me, I was farting with chicken feet in my pocket! ________________________________ From: Patrick Bishop To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sat, April 2, 2011 6:23:29 AM Subject: Re: Creative Alternative Tools for Guitar Looping For authentic bluesy hanky sounds you need to blow your nose at midnight in the middle of a cemetery with some chicken hearts in your back pocket. Then, and only then, will your hanky have the percussive banjo or reso sounds you crave! PJ -----Original Message----- From: E Gross To: Loopers-Delight Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2011 3:28 pm Subject: Re: Creative Alternative Tools for Guitar Looping wow what a great thread thanks so much for the tips. I saw the bluesman Clarence Gatemouth Brown play with a handkerchief lightly tucked between strings up near the nut, got some nice percussive banjo-esque sounds. Whenever I tried it I could never make it sound the same........ --0-1230329658-1301754356=:49803 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Dammit! No wonder it never worked for me, I was farting with chicken feet in my pocket!

From: Patrick Bishop <pjbmhb@aol.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sat, April 2, 2011 6:23:29 AM
Subject: Re: Creative Alternative Tools for Guitar Looping

For authentic bluesy hanky sounds you need to blow your nose at midnight in the middle of a cemetery with some chicken hearts in your back pocket. Then, and only then, will your hanky have the percussive banjo or reso sounds you crave!

:-) PJ



-----Original Message-----
From: E Gross <slapbandjam@yahoo.com>
To: Loopers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2011 3:28 pm
Subject: Re: Creative Alternative Tools for Guitar Looping

wow what a great thread thanks so much for the tips.

I saw the bluesman Clarence Gatemouth Brown play with a handkerchief lightly tucked between strings up near the nut, got some nice percussive banjo-esque sounds. Whenever I tried it I could never make it sound the same........



--0-1230329658-1301754356=:49803-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 2 14:29:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9774D18349E; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 14:29:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <4D95AEFF.6040307@cruzio.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8B561@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <8CDBE8AE9841A09-656C-1DD@TSTMAIL-D09.sysops.aol.com> <75C2B783-8B7C-4C6A-838E-80C5CDF22460@charter.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: CHAIN -TAPE COLLECTIVE Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 10:29:09 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 68.162.173.26 In-Reply-To: <75C2B783-8B7C-4C6A-838E-80C5CDF22460@charter.net> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33490-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CDBF5976F6441F-2D14-58B5@webmail-d126.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108780 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 14:29:20 +0000 (UTC) ted.....i sent out the first TAPES on 04-01-99.....everything is=20 getting older! =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 2 14:40:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0903118349D; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 14:40:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=yfq16uygBtyWBBea0Jmar2Ou7q2Ves62HUaaGgpTwuY=; b=OCapSAfog51XVSVz90pdkn5/R8LgFXLp464L876vwhPckGAZvvWtMcRTlGSuxvTRWl Gpd8nX2/wLxGHi3iLCB81ukpk7LbAyJQhv+Fpg7GIIB/owZSRORTN3affWmeXqpE8VeL TGumVojNazJnAY/1EkiUA9y/+pqkuLQD7Yk6M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=RzuABwddv9qVy1TFQUUZWLYjz5U51g2Y74cuOwg+wIZmtkrt4htgFRrKqRmnqCDfsE W9KnPQpolS7mesCHnHwUVMDnbcn/+pvuuFHCIjwEHNJiRWK4YCGMdPW/e4tCcTHGVu29 yeLon6eG536sULxMGWGSEv62Xco2HtpRFtJ+g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CDBF5976F6441F-2D14-58B5@webmail-d126.sysops.aol.com> References: <4D95AEFF.6040307@cruzio.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8B561@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <8CDBE8AE9841A09-656C-1DD@TSTMAIL-D09.sysops.aol.com> <75C2B783-8B7C-4C6A-838E-80C5CDF22460@charter.net> <8CDBF5976F6441F-2D14-58B5@webmail-d126.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 16:40:23 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: CHAIN -TAPE COLLECTIVE From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6538572b2dc5e049ff08140 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108781 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 14:40:24 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6538572b2dc5e049ff08140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i reckon the tapes where flowing since 1997, anybody? 2011/4/2 > > ted.....i sent out the first TAPES on 04-01-99.....everything is getting > older! > > > > -- .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com --0016e6538572b2dc5e049ff08140 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i reckon the tapes where flowing since 1997, anybody?

2011/4/2 <nemoguitt@aol.com>

ted.....i sent out the first TAPES on 04-01-99.....everything is getting ol= der!


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--0016e6538572b2dc5e049ff08140-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 2 16:14:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 456BB18349D; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 16:14:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=Z39qpER8mX+dXNKg2grebmZY5C0gl0wUBPj/xgV3Wmw=; b=oIpilAVkzSEqZXgmHCtDFDpwMk0959qBZYH+GLlLlMiNyEot0WhKamaTXi8ttl+o9N VUM5Qwv50Vkqo5uG4krQy5ROW4M0Lm10M92sJIv2uIlCbBBJSz6KwrOujpQGc83yyXKQ nggJL0Vc7u3DrrdViTY93tzL6yCXvLyWS4dds= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=mAnFFfYY4XbzoNlZFfUke4vFIuvbI4ji62dN1B+g+/4jmWhcCifYqeucPym4vae4zR XZZHDcdwa+/b1IiXRqJFXkoAzkFlE9L9qIRrTCCmuVjF1GrW4IoFWjonMKgOzKXqlrGn eoQCOotfvcyDiNoWKDH3BUoTgAxtlGv5Wjxno= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: henkel.chris@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: References: <910180C7-607F-43F2-A201-622B74225CB6@mac.com> <9FBAE873300B4BADA8E053FF1FF459A5@INGO> From: Chris Henkel Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 18:13:31 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: upLGyH-YQI_FOrnedxRGR3Oy6ng Message-ID: Subject: Re: More Softstep Feedback - Attention Bill Walker:) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636283cf41c8006049ff1d1e0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108782 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 16:14:12 +0000 (UTC) --001636283cf41c8006049ff1d1e0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 ...hmmmm... 2011/4/1 Louie Angulo > UnO chip,as soon as i replaced it all the problems were gone and ive > been more than happy with it ever since. > ...i had upgraded my (bought used) FCB1010 a couple of years ago with the UnO 1.0.2f, but was never able to get it to work as i wanted it to... ...after reading this thread i have spent the better part of this day trying again to get the FCB to work...followed every step carefully in all concerned manuals, installed the Ripwerx on a Win-machine after i couldnt get it to work on a Mac at all etc. etc.... ...all this to find that it seems that the 'memory' of my FCB is damaged: it does not remember a setting when switched off, and i cannot configure it from the Ripwerx, only using the FCB itself...but then again, when switched off all configuration is gone and some 'random' configuration is set, that i can read via the Ripwerx, and that is different every time i read it... ...my question now: is the memory physically different from the UnO-chip? - if yes, can it be replaced? - how could i identify the memory-chip and where can i get a replacement? - is it worth it?...i'll try to find answers in the documentation, but perhaps someone could help out and answer some of the questions already?... ...as i have bought the thing used a couple of years ago it may well be that it was sold back then because of this error, that i could not identify back then... TIA. --001636283cf41c8006049ff1d1e0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ...hmmmm...

2011/4/1 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@= googlemail.com>
UnO chip,as soon as i replaced it all the problems were gone and ive
been more than happy with it ever since.

...i had = upgraded my (bought used) FCB1010 a couple of years ago with the UnO 1.0.2f= , but was never able to get it to work as i wanted it to...

...after= reading this thread i have spent the better part of this day trying again = to get the FCB to work...followed every step carefully in all concerned man= uals, installed the Ripwerx on a Win-machine after i couldnt get it to work= on a Mac at all etc. etc....

...all this to find that it seems that the 'memory' of my FCB i= s damaged: it does not remember a setting when switched off, and i cannot c= onfigure it from the Ripwerx, only using the FCB itself...but then again, w= hen switched off all configuration is gone and some 'random' config= uration is set, that i can read via the Ripwerx, and that is different ever= y time i read it...

...my question now: is the memory physically different from the UnO-chi= p? - if yes, can it be replaced? - how could i identify the memory-chip and= where can i get a replacement? - is it worth it?...i'll try to find an= swers in the documentation, but perhaps someone could help out and answer s= ome of the questions already?...

...as i have bought the thing used a couple of years ago it may well be= that it was sold back then because of this error, that i could not identif= y back then...

TIA.
--001636283cf41c8006049ff1d1e0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 2 16:18:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57C8B18349C; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 16:18:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1301761104; bh=UvAftsoEqLs5UJ8VjqQapUu9DJcQWWf9LDgSSQYQbAE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wsB71siFabok/QDNNrnIiH47t7zfJUfn4/nlIwyjUEkNDwU4AmOY0v1IZZKow7lyY/JMs8SgDlrxeyASRM/vHA0aUxUVtuCzTJSIHhvb0Alxga525/nBreit0XDFc7BHFKuBE4sRlNuUlgPcOJwOUGvZ4B2NlsMRB7KK8cgeZlk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jPJ/H8DkhMz/2lDOKIimostJBt22+t+9H7tb2w73vc5sw6xN98M96W2FDgL4rEk79vfn+Q3txpCkYyCbUtjP2GwWslXP5UY6gnjNaBpKKix7ElBNLbkeQf9eC6bGKVI9rrYAuR/RUle5knsQ5z7UlLAZjTSFiAIdZdN48PHvIJA=; Message-ID: <352483.61698.qm@web45314.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: P7WMXo4VM1lG3AdQr3gGLUiUC_CKTep2xN3SWH_gsUjTnT1 wHZla1ejVEERvgvkLvKkVacoEJ5XmCM3FUigihnm5uBJgkZR853b.gMgZEo0 0ub6ETas7wuwcEPyM0_pMCpNJjGnyjQM4hne8XfVmvWWzWvek1xR5ng87Prz x9tdWzF70RbgrkTl3KTjdqgJG2oelMyU_4OvN9dAVmalzkBKGWkBhFBX2Guy w8qEYuVvG686zxVC6y3gxLKd6Tx6NGLSoPCljlANNZSM.ASQFiSE4HhsMVb0 zqug1aiBjnslfkHOLqaA0Usrodjh2_dmdVmXG0j2CK6w_7JTvGNWq6cvbjma .utiWqOwEHsHVzq_Aojb7b5Q0AwdgNgnLDU_CZInmnn3BvJR8EUk0XuxaSVM kKexUyGp5uIXiUQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/12.0.2 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 09:18:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: CHAIN -TAPE COLLECTIVE To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-683594029-1301761104=:61698" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108783 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 16:18:26 +0000 (UTC) --0-683594029-1301761104=:61698 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael's date is correct; if you look in the liner notes from the first 4-= CD set, some people wrote down the date they added their tracks to the tape= , and they're all slightly after April 1st, 1999... You might be thinking o= f the first LD Subscriber's Compilation CD that came out in 1998, (pre-Chai= n Tape). (I'm pretty sure that one WAS in progress in '97...) -t- =0Ahttp://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson =0A --- On Sat, 4/2/11, Raul Bonell wrote: From: Raul Bonell Subject: Re: CHAIN -TAPE COLLECTIVE To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Saturday, April 2, 2011, 10:40 AM i reckon the tapes where flowing since 1997, anybody? 2011/4/2 =0A =0Ated.....i sent out the first TAPES on 04-01-99.....everything is getting= older! =0A =0A =0A=A0 =0A --=20 .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com =0A =0A --0-683594029-1301761104=:61698 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --0-683594029-1301761104=:61698-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 2 17:19:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73F7918349C; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 17:19:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 365994929/mk-outboundfilter-5.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$F2S-NILDRAM-ACCEPTED/f2s-nildram-customers/62.3.238.4/None/nick@1957.me.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.3.238.4 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: nick@1957.me.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhgCAEJZl00+A+4E/2dsb2JhbAAMmFnNPIVrBI0jg08 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,288,1299456000"; d="scan'208";a="365994929" X-IP-Direction: IN From: "nick@12testing.net" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 18:18:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Home-brew midi controller for EDP Reply-to: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <4D976885.4699.21C46AB@nick.1957.me.uk> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20110402142610.230DE1834A2@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20110402142610.230DE1834A2@arsenic.violacea.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110402-1, 02/04/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108784 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 17:19:15 +0000 (UTC) The latest incarnation of my home-brew arduino-based EDP controller.It now works in terms of controlling the EDP. but I'm discovering all kinds of issues with making the leds go on & off when they should. For example, when you end a record phase by pressing reverse, you need the rev led on but rec light off. There are several such issues, but alone on stage, to know when I am recording, overdubbing, multiplying, rev or half saves faffing about looking at the rack each time to check ;) http://www.nickrobinson.info/music/images/troller4.jpg yes, it looks like diy sh*t, but once it's programmed properly, I can worry about that. Makes me admire Xavier all the more for his work with the gordius pedal range. All the best, Nick Robinson music site : http://www.looping.me.uk myspace site : http://www.myspace.com/nickrobinsonloops looping forum : http://loopingmusic.proboards99.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 2 21:22:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 717CD18349D; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 21:22:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D979419.7040103@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 23:24:41 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Home-brew midi controller for EDP References: <20110402142610.230DE1834A2@arsenic.violacea.com> <4D976885.4699.21C46AB@nick.1957.me.uk> In-Reply-To: <4D976885.4699.21C46AB@nick.1957.me.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108785 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 21:22:02 +0000 (UTC) Kudos to you, Sir! Which processor are you using? - A microcontroller, like an Atmel..? Using any MIDI libraries? I have a maybe project, but haven't sone much research yet.. /van nick@12testing.net wrote: > The latest incarnation of my home-brew arduino-based EDP > controller.It now works in terms of controlling the EDP. but I'm > discovering all kinds of issues with making the leds go on & off when > they should. > > For example, when you end a record phase by pressing reverse, you > need the rev led on but rec light off. There are several such issues, > but alone on stage, to know when I am recording, overdubbing, > multiplying, rev or half saves faffing about looking at the rack each > time to check ;) > > http://www.nickrobinson.info/music/images/troller4.jpg > > yes, it looks like diy sh*t, but once it's programmed properly, I can > worry about that. Makes me admire Xavier all the more for his work > with the gordius pedal range. > > > > All the best, > > Nick Robinson > > music site : http://www.looping.me.uk > myspace site : http://www.myspace.com/nickrobinsonloops > looping forum : http://loopingmusic.proboards99.com -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 2 21:32:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 050DC18349C; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 21:32:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D979683.6000009@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 23:34:59 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108786 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 21:32:21 +0000 (UTC) An even better approach may be gluing a thin layer of trespa to the board; I've heard some say it's the best material, superceeding ebony and epoxy coatings. Trespa is made of layers of a cardboard-like material, bonded with heat/pressure into a very hard material. It can be processed/sanded. Only the phenylic filled, pressure treated/compressed wood used by Zon basses should be better. I haven't tried it myself, but have an urge, so some sunny day.. ;) BTW, if having problems gluing on (still oil filled) fretboards, try contacting Gorilla Glue; I've heard they have a product which should bond well to oily surfaces. /van Toby Graves wrote: > The epoxy didn't seem to want to stick to the surface of the fretboard > when I've tried it. I've only filled in slots with it. > > > toby > On Apr 1, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > >> Hello again, >> >> So I've pulled the frets on my guitar and filled in the frets with >> epoxy. As soon as it dries I'll be sanding them down and lowering the >> nut. My question to all you DIYers who may have done this yourself, >> did you leave the fretboard as is after you sanded the frets down >> again or did you cover the neck in epoxy and smooth that down? I've >> seen it both ways and I thought I'd get opinions from this august body >> of experimenters. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Kevin >> >> -- >> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a >> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all >> trouble. >> >> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >> >> Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org >> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 3 00:11:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D724F183453; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 00:11:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1301789488; bh=Jo+YIhp1Y9BR/h8XlKC8YrRoevS/+27LtlR/qWUVarw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=MIFqpb6JCS3X+RTwlu5h45JOj83ooAPXRr4XD5pvScS+tOuD2urJ/UH+qmDaJz30y7o3ZuXHstv0EP7nPbYlalFB/gEU1ubD2rV8QQNfX3ag1xTe4Klipn/TS9YU/d2YyAgxQjrhsuKX4vEMd6ewzSryP7H5XXFQS6D67O+BaSk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ayVGxb9dsoDdujGnZFUnHqTAMQwUjUIivYV4Z12eNkjRqQJPOmjJitcjDd2JdBjdPVYcJB+XzlgfBPvUT6zAf8hla9LtZxrM46wRPbfLowmUjNdEBn763LTz0/bB18d+Gaeu/++HSvBBoWpYBuBR1bYYOEwyTc/WhOg9L/yHeCE=; Message-ID: <750603.65041.qm@web120715.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: kJ2gxgsVM1lTR_QdXupBXvuULCnuEMG65Q8ntZ42a_bK8Kx s7TGcH36z8EBsbqWkpzN65qaatmkofKF.L2EA.6vO7UA.5Qyu1VK2dRPARP1 3CqMhG84np6o3.L1zQHfOY0Cu9VWwn7xB1HtaQsWlq5a_fT9IAHjf4B_stxd WuCPRQG5nuenfOJ7ZkKNQwCAwnHlGCI_A3RODrDDpPRPOtvJiB8EczdutLTH Kzw1OGCCi.qjzm3VkwBR1vuqJfBytIldRG2ghC_J6HnsAN_6BOSGw4JQrtjM oISUsq_d2Wiqcwkic0ShahjL_dbjVrGsE6PDIwxh0p3Xts98ZCV4pPPNoQkl 4jfSGD_gONGBDLjKac89tYIPXkDP8npnwxHFgG7ldM4ATrVvvRZOqsEQ- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/12.0.2 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 17:11:28 -0700 (PDT) From: tim echols Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D979683.6000009@post.cybercity.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108787 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 00:11:30 +0000 (UTC) we never had any problem with the epoxy or super glue not sticking to the f= ingerboard. i play bass, so i have no choice but to finish my neck or the = monstrous roundwounds would eat the neck to grooves. i have a 5string that = i picked up for cheap in a consignment shop because someone had taken the f= rets out (and did a great job, better than the old fender jazz i refinished= ) but had not filled in the slots or finished the neck. i am having to sto= p myself from playing because it is marking up the neck considerably, and i= do not play with a much vibrato that would dig in. but i did find this: http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/sevenstring-guitars/138328-ngmd-fretless-c= ontent.html seems like it describes a step-by-step vespa-based finishing. hope it help= s. time --- On Sat, 4/2/11, van Sinn wrote: > From: van Sinn > Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Saturday, April 2, 2011, 4:34 PM > An even better approach may be gluing > a thin layer of trespa to the board; I've heard some say > it's the best material, superceeding ebony and epoxy > coatings. >=20 > Trespa is made of layers of a cardboard-like material, > bonded with heat/pressure into a very hard material.=A0 > It can be processed/sanded. > Only the phenylic filled, pressure treated/compressed wood > used by Zon basses should be better. >=20 > I haven't tried it myself, but have an urge, so some sunny > day.. ;) >=20 > BTW, if having problems gluing on (still oil filled) > fretboards, try contacting Gorilla Glue; I've heard they > have a product which should bond well to oily surfaces. >=20 > /van >=20 >=20 > Toby Graves wrote: > > The epoxy didn't seem to want to stick to the surface > of the=A0 fretboard when I've tried it.=A0 I've only > filled in slots with it. > >=20 > >=20 > > toby > > On Apr 1, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando > wrote: > >=20 > >> Hello again, > >>=20 > >> So I've pulled the frets on my guitar and filled > in the frets with > >> epoxy.=A0 As soon as it dries I'll be sanding > them down and lowering the > >> nut.=A0 My question to all you DIYers who may > have done this yourself, > >> did you leave the fretboard as is after you sanded > the frets down > >> again or did you cover the neck in epoxy and > smooth that down?=A0 I've > >> seen it both ways and I thought I'd get opinions > from this august body > >> of experimenters. > >>=20 > >> Thanks, > >>=20 > >> Kevin > >>=20 > >> -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to > be the body and to=A0 have a > >> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the > root cause of all=A0 trouble. > >>=20 > >> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > >>=20 > >> Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org > >> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >=20 >=20 > -- rgds, > van Sinn >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 3 11:07:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A1011834A0; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 11:07:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:Content-Type:Subject:Date:Message-Id:To:Mime-Version:X-Mailer; b=mZzucx/owbobGYt6vW3/CS/fwp0azLy9tR7v/SEeatmP5pQr7hPCZsu4cyNzNyZ1IjbDOA6Q3aGhU00Ze4pAvEFNh1w5ZwpNaAF3FDekjrsis1N80wtL2k9i44QaErJVhmb2jRGbzvO5z16/3oyre2OcsY8rrQp4xcBvtuwpEhg= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1301828868; bh=JuVmETUXVzncNY64+84vrACBR6toTNClnE2CxM7hzGQ=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:Content-Type:Subject:Date:Message-Id:To:Mime-Version:X-Mailer; b=N7o0+uqp5pF4ANhTzeKNhbkeLySL07RoO4+A2asKOwHEnNXnsE48WT1N29Rk1Pc0Bs6d3vw/uVNgvV/CbfqX/UrD72PoWufU9NX8oMD0S4rnWV6n8tYBKruiHS2rvvn/7T8c55DwGqHkgcufN6dPp2HkJQhXxEsl8riAx0Io4GE= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: Dqxado0VM1kbJboqvDBZBiXBkvehw1m5uHUXE1oUPepX7kJ 4fshTb._h2wx714kdXoUDrOlKilTupoPuTgubbcBJ0eYgYZ1sN10gAYWEs5e ..uzZBF4x6dou7twGJ9.upELny0oTJo3UybfPdylJb4LVaEIv6wNlGTIU.Nc jTWLRAeEFtIuyz.InjoI0doqqX0i_KawjDtJ2UZu..egi4RmAdqaOzUX2zBL THhIvSBU8AOnQF16Jxf5cOtJyPd8Pn3Niy6fxYSkfynZrzQwFOMUtzzfhBUv iW_AGokE4YWGU5Oi3pXHq9WD2xHiVQG0AdrHzJoYNvSy50Eg- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: Matthew Stevens Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--748363653 Subject: Streaming online gig spam Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 12:07:47 +0100 Message-Id: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082.1) Resent-Message-ID: <7L5q8C.A.E0.GUFmNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108788 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 11:07:50 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--748363653 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello - final streaming lunch time gig to watch online is in an hours = time @ http://spencerparkmusic.com/online/ see you there : 1pm UK all looping=20 I highly recommend the whole streaming everyday thing - really helped to = connected with an audience :)= --Apple-Mail-1--748363653 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hello - final streaming lunch time gig to watch = online is in an hours time @ line/ see you there : 1pm = UK

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= --Apple-Mail-1--748363653-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 3 14:14:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2854E18349C; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 14:14:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TxSQz+hMAdJya2Hz0lV0r2QZMa0WCJo6Aq3sExGvr/o=; b=OzHNK57EaMEJwyfLnFfVl5xcIh2OkEA0p1fopdncuyIBBvArGaG5IIpf7OSspgfMlv nQq/z21fYbuJInDmGQGDgeBIYtzP9CVHu7YIwEGVhWui/jkEvdvhh5aQg4+jGotKFW7D vFVdwg4sJWXWdfa0AfyFx96nSwPgex7/YJfAg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=X8KWmx51/1yOMXJ6PRVOo1nW5gCquhug3LPIIe3pop6IuX8uQTgOZkjtbD2lNyVaHk OVY2OfCdGRFXEuk0t3WoJLn7mAAq6evMNW1gLASzz1TtpJVQW7BPm6Po3kJRivQIpGZt VB7eDCQlXKEE1cVpafftgTYyo5CwtIfYtr/Oo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <910180C7-607F-43F2-A201-622B74225CB6@mac.com> <9FBAE873300B4BADA8E053FF1FF459A5@INGO> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 16:14:07 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: More Softstep Feedback - Attention Bill Walker:) From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108789 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 14:14:09 +0000 (UTC) there is definetly something wrong with it,you can ask all those questions to Xavier,hes more knowledgable about it than i am. Cheers Luis On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Chris Henkel wrote: > ...hmmmm... > > 2011/4/1 Louie Angulo >> >> UnO chip,as soon as i replaced it all the problems were gone and ive >> been more than happy with it ever since. > > ...i had upgraded my (bought used) FCB1010 a couple of years ago with the > UnO 1.0.2f, but was never able to get it to work as i wanted it to... > > ...after reading this thread i have spent the better part of this day trying > again to get the FCB to work...followed every step carefully in all > concerned manuals, installed the Ripwerx on a Win-machine after i couldnt > get it to work on a Mac at all etc. etc.... > > ...all this to find that it seems that the 'memory' of my FCB is damaged: it > does not remember a setting when switched off, and i cannot configure it > from the Ripwerx, only using the FCB itself...but then again, when switched > off all configuration is gone and some 'random' configuration is set, that i > can read via the Ripwerx, and that is different every time i read it... > > ...my question now: is the memory physically different from the UnO-chip? - > if yes, can it be replaced? - how could i identify the memory-chip and where > can i get a replacement? - is it worth it?...i'll try to find answers in the > documentation, but perhaps someone could help out and answer some of the > questions already?... > > ...as i have bought the thing used a couple of years ago it may well be that > it was sold back then because of this error, that i could not identify back > then... > > TIA. > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 3 15:47:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E0E76183453; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 15:47:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=FYQ9qfRVIHstkf4QH179JpBAB8kI51hx1tFm9h1fddw=; b=B3t9JfCAbKOHJywUN2kKRPbdQihXv8umpo/wUJmxO47t3glp86tWSzfzzpstZRc4TB NB9uFRGQUOQ49ShqV1Yav1E6UM9XUZp1MtqdyhIsz1qeg8q2ZHxzo1ngKXuWxEF6nQay TasgG7QCXFzQqzkDAOVJC4x9l0ck+/hTPjzI8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=EYxBig0cnXGtUQzAs/0A04i8JAhIZGTLFdy6FXzTDcSwMYW/NwP36xL4u91hYnmtsZ i9Mj9ZTcLR6x8l0IkMYYf9fwNuBFM1IOJx2/EnMvOIOEZ9iO9uxKRDFYzfN5DHwIq20W nYjVd+zoeknG+aHpUtz1355qSAHaRcvTbYMRY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 16:47:35 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: max/msp experts - midi clock smoother? From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151750e136df498304a0058f1d Resent-Message-ID: <_N0HuC.A.2sH.ZaJmNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108790 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 15:47:37 +0000 (UTC) --00151750e136df498304a0058f1d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 has anybody made a midi clock smoother in max/masp? i saw this - http://www.resolume.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=5811&start=0 and was wondering if it could perhaps be tweaked to take input from the iac bus...average... the midi clock and pass it out to perhaps another iac bus port? i'm trying to get mobius working in ableton as the sync master, but the clock is so flaky, i can't use any synced 3rd party plugins (they glitch horribly as the clock changes tempo) sim --00151750e136df498304a0058f1d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable has anybody made a midi clock smoother in max/masp?


and was wondering if it could perhaps be tweaked to tak= e input from the iac bus...average... the midi clock and pass it out to per= haps another iac bus port?

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--00151750e136df498304a0058f1d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 3 17:06:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F1BD18349D; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 17:06:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=m5vc9TMjL7vD07KcKGEVWK7NKoNAKzqD2Q/rbYtkDUg=; b=s2CpHzxls0KPWGLEmBqrBcLDLYnfGI70DwylpSeDi+4Crc5Jq6neZufpse2Hy+pZox EvebN0XiixhK9buZeu9nNNgj9J97/xgkHO5z51sBkKkau4iYoQ5Aijf9AHvz9RihMK+d OVHlcDQJ0riavJcwHsuT9bbKcXEp7Aa3ar08M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pmCZynsA1ndyKIMBZTXTvq6j0hWJqhrqlSaUAsYfhmWyE4fYq4AlHIH0XsT5uD7yAV cLiCKBG/vDZa5W699HUBa5+m4V//2W4sZFKEPi5Nfeadv8k2ou0ZAPd6+NICNB20gKAR 1kUde1QloU/PcdbdaqziJIr4x3wMa3yuAu9m4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 19:05:59 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: max/msp experts - midi clock smoother? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <9EkF-B.A.ygB.5jKmNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108791 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 17:06:01 +0000 (UTC) i went down that road Simeon and gave up on it,i just use their little looper when syncing grooves. as a slave is not much of a problem though. cheers Luis On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > has anybody made a midi clock smoother in max/masp? > i saw this -=A0http://www.resolume.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3D13&t=3D581= 1&start=3D0 > and was wondering if it could perhaps be tweaked to take input from the i= ac > bus...average... the midi clock and pass it out to perhaps another iac bu= s > port? > i'm trying to get mobius working in ableton as the sync master, but the > clock is so flaky, i can't use any synced 3rd party plugins (they glitch > horribly as the clock changes tempo) > sim --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 3 17:41:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0327B18349E; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 17:41:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D98B1FB.7090008@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 19:44:27 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers References: <750603.65041.qm@web120715.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <750603.65041.qm@web120715.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108792 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 17:41:36 +0000 (UTC) tim echols wrote: > we never had any problem with the epoxy or super glue not sticking to the fingerboard. i play bass, so i have no choice but to finish my neck or the monstrous roundwounds would eat the neck to grooves. i have a 5string that i picked up for cheap in a consignment shop because someone had taken the frets out (and did a great job, better than the old fender jazz i refinished) but had not filled in the slots or finished the neck. i am having to stop myself from playing because it is marking up the neck considerably, and i do not play with a much vibrato that would dig in. but i did find this: > > http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/sevenstring-guitars/138328-ngmd-fretless-content.html > > seems like it describes a step-by-step vespa-based finishing. hope it helps. > > time Yup, I was going to refer this thread, but missed among my saved list over there. > --- On Sat, 4/2/11, van Sinn wrote: > > >>From: van Sinn >>Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers >>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>Date: Saturday, April 2, 2011, 4:34 PM >>An even better approach may be gluing >>a thin layer of trespa to the board; I've heard some say >>it's the best material, superceeding ebony and epoxy >>coatings. >> >>Trespa is made of layers of a cardboard-like material, >>bonded with heat/pressure into a very hard material. >>It can be processed/sanded. >>Only the phenylic filled, pressure treated/compressed wood >>used by Zon basses should be better. >> >>I haven't tried it myself, but have an urge, so some sunny >>day.. ;) >> >>BTW, if having problems gluing on (still oil filled) >>fretboards, try contacting Gorilla Glue; I've heard they >>have a product which should bond well to oily surfaces. >> >>/van >> >> >>Toby Graves wrote: >> >>>The epoxy didn't seem to want to stick to the surface >> >>of the fretboard when I've tried it. I've only >>filled in slots with it. >> >>> >>>toby >>>On Apr 1, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando >> >>wrote: >> >>>>Hello again, >>>> >>>>So I've pulled the frets on my guitar and filled >> >>in the frets with >> >>>>epoxy. As soon as it dries I'll be sanding >> >>them down and lowering the >> >>>>nut. My question to all you DIYers who may >> >>have done this yourself, >> >>>>did you leave the fretboard as is after you sanded >> >>the frets down >> >>>>again or did you cover the neck in epoxy and >> >>smooth that down? I've >> >>>>seen it both ways and I thought I'd get opinions >> >>from this august body >> >>>>of experimenters. >>>> >>>>Thanks, >>>> >>>>Kevin >>>> >>>>-- Till now you seriously considered yourself to >> >>be the body and to have a >> >>>>form. That is the primal ignorance which is the >> >>root cause of all trouble. >> >>>>- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >>>> >>>>Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org >>>>Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >> >> >>-- rgds, >>van Sinn -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 3 18:18:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 740E01834A0; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:18:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: max/msp experts - midi clock smoother? References: From: Jeff Larson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--722540755 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 13:18:09 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108793 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:18:16 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--722540755 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sorry I've been away. First of all, this is the first time in five = years I've heard reports of the Mobius master clock being "flakey". That isn't to say that you're not = experiencing tempo drift but if you are it is a relatively unusual situation. =46rom what I've read, you are = most likely experiencing a bug in Ableton Live which is flat out broken when it comes to syncing to MIDI clocks. = What happens is you record a loop in Mobius that is say 120.4 BPM, Live receives this but for = unknown reasons when it conveys this tempo to the other plugins it "rounds" it down to 120. Oz has a = good description of this phenomena here: http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/downloads/augustusloop_2_3_0_manual.pdf Scroll down to "Rounded tempos (for live)" under the "Preferences" = section. The problem with any sort of tempo rounding strategy is that the rounded = tempo won't actually match the length of the loop, so unless you make an = adjustment to the loop the effects will still go out of sync. The only way for the loop to match the = desired rounded tempo is to change the length of the loop. Augustus seems to do = this by making the recording go on a bit longer after you press the button to end it. Depending on = your style of looping this can result in an audible timing discontinuity, especially if what you're = looping has a strong rhythmic=20 feel. Basically what can happen is that the downbeat at the start of the = loop will sound late. =20 This doesn't seem to be as much of a problem syncing with Live audio = clips, I know people have done that before so for mysterious reasons Live seems able to time stretch its = clips to match an exact tempo,=20 just not convey the right tempo to other plugins. I don't know if this is happening, but also note that Live also known to = not track changes in tempo well. So if you started a loop in 120, then used 1/2 Speed to drop it for 60, = it is quite likely that Live will get lost and stop following MIDI clock. For Mobius this means that once = you've established a tempo in the master track, you have to leave it alone for the duration of the = performance, no Speed, RateShift,=20 Unrounded Multiply, Unrounded Insert, or anything else that would change = the length of the loop and thereby the tempo. If you're sure none of this applies to your environment, then send me an = email and I'll try to figure out what's going on. Jeff On Apr 3, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > has anybody made a midi clock smoother in max/masp? >=20 > i saw this - = http://www.resolume.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3D13&t=3D5811&start=3D0 >=20 > and was wondering if it could perhaps be tweaked to take input from = the iac bus...average... the midi clock and pass it out to perhaps = another iac bus port? >=20 > i'm trying to get mobius working in ableton as the sync master, but = the clock is so flaky, i can't use any synced 3rd party plugins (they = glitch horribly as the clock changes tempo) >=20 > sim --Apple-Mail-1--722540755 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
it is a relatively unusual = situation.  =46rom what I've read, you are most likely experiencing = a bug in Ableton
Live which is flat out broken when it comes = to syncing to MIDI clocks.  What happens is you record
a = loop in Mobius that is say 120.4 BPM, Live receives this but for unknown = reasons when it conveys
this tempo to the other plugins it = "rounds" it down to 120.  Oz has a good description of this = phenomena
here:


Scroll down to "Rounded tempos (for = live)" under the "Preferences" section.

The = problem with any sort of tempo rounding strategy is that the rounded = tempo
won't actually match the length of the loop, so unless = you make an adjustment to the loop the effects
will still go = out of sync.  The only way for the loop to match the = desired
rounded tempo is to change the length of the loop. =  Augustus seems to do this by making the recording
go on = a bit longer after you press the button to end it.  Depending on = your style of looping this
can result in an audible timing = discontinuity, especially if what you're looping has a strong = rhythmic 
feel. Basically what can happen is that the = downbeat at the start of the loop will sound late. =  

This doesn't seem to be as much of a = problem syncing with Live audio clips, I know people have done = that
before so for mysterious reasons Live seems able to time = stretch its clips to match an exact tempo, 
just not = convey the right tempo to other plugins.

I = don't know if this is happening, but also note that Live also known to = not track changes in tempo well.
So if you started a loop in = 120, then used 1/2 Speed to drop it for 60, it is quite likely that Live = will
get lost and stop following MIDI clock.  For Mobius = this means that once you've established a tempo
in the master = track, you have to leave it alone for the duration of the performance, = no Speed, RateShift, 
Unrounded Multiply, Unrounded = Insert, or anything else that would change the length of the = loop
and thereby the tempo.

If you're = sure none of this applies to your environment, then send me an email and = I'll try to figure
out what's going = on.

Jeff


=




On = Apr 3, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:

has = anybody made a midi clock smoother in max/masp?


and was wondering if it could perhaps be tweaked to = take input from the iac bus...average... the midi clock and pass it out = to perhaps another iac bus port?

i'm trying to = get mobius working in ableton as the sync master, but the clock is so = flaky, i can't use any synced 3rd party plugins (they glitch horribly as = the clock changes tempo)

sim

= --Apple-Mail-1--722540755-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 3 18:19:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7665A18349E; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:19:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FfSalz+hTiv9zqP93975sC1t+cBBpd/CL50U1/FQx/A=; b=wUADODv88xhehjVHR5pjLBlyzAIh/AL5MFn9UQE7jD1V146bLfwEpQMx+iWTXkEgN7 85m6bix8PyYzhNvu4bEJBIppXTM/r2GYha3l0HhAyRBuIGIFvEGv8xhGCfWr6YfHebKa q5nkKws9Ski7RpXxtTlKG7HY9MLiWDWrvZqyU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xWjV1BtZr2TJFshQX+JWtUgyMD4RXX32sRAQOSpL2UnqM0R8usTd6Ib2bAj/4yrVMb z1t5Jd1CoRe8D5D64LkZ4KKnG79y3p0Xix54RVzXob8C4HbiNRjacvnVt6X1xBDTDuS4 z/pLn0oH2VpdUWX1ghOvT1LnlQeQLkWaAonxM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D949E2E.7040902@googlemail.com> <910180C7-607F-43F2-A201-622B74225CB6@mac.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8B45D@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 20:19:04 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A while back..... From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108794 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:19:07 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > this is the one i meant and is actually not a bad looking guitar > wow this is develoed by Markus Reuter? the website doesnt specify what > they cost,anybody know more info? Bro! The U8's are developed by Markus, see http://www.touchguitars.com/ for all the info. Regarding prices, I would suggest to contact him directly via the contact form on the website. -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 3 18:29:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E20118349E; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:29:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=BvU3isjRT3yRUudsyNCyUvsYwCjouVKOWvvD7NR5wP0=; b=UXvE1maPyVAoXVVuVii1/OAfWrMxQObsBCkmVTy26VcFLmQuRqO4WS0KU5tus2h8Re aT0mWWEx5DQYOPM0cxXLmRY/N2/tpZvCAmsoOnmwWgGFvuUzmvrWZx1irTubcToaihfS GpZ5l2jFTZZb2f6KTQVv+x6MSCufznbGF85tU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HIWUFE4v+HCBIL6bNonVyvhCn2ZnFE1rk0BAWHScAp7XsO1Mvu2h9enz2ojzUz7lvS GnT8J1qRoxnDKvpxNzqYWRhHvIjjbu/ixHqIkrUNOO5CYzTiIbLGiJhakGZB7pwK6ccW FHz/e5t3F7TuXdus8UT3E+nf2OavS23GD9XQ4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D98B1FB.7090008@post.cybercity.dk> References: <750603.65041.qm@web120715.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4D98B1FB.7090008@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 14:29:19 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec5015d333e3b1004a007d2d9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108795 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:29:20 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec5015d333e3b1004a007d2d9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 A friend sent me this and he swears by it for his stuff. I have yet to do this but I will... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-mmlEZI3os j On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 1:44 PM, van Sinn wrote: > tim echols wrote: > >> we never had any problem with the epoxy or super glue not sticking to the >> fingerboard. i play bass, so i have no choice but to finish my neck or the >> monstrous roundwounds would eat the neck to grooves. i have a 5string that i >> picked up for cheap in a consignment shop because someone had taken the >> frets out (and did a great job, better than the old fender jazz i >> refinished) but had not filled in the slots or finished the neck. i am >> having to stop myself from playing because it is marking up the neck >> considerably, and i do not play with a much vibrato that would dig in. but i >> did find this: >> >> >> http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/sevenstring-guitars/138328-ngmd-fretless-content.html >> >> seems like it describes a step-by-step vespa-based finishing. hope it >> helps. >> >> time >> > > > Yup, I was going to refer this thread, but missed among my saved list over > there. > > > --- On Sat, 4/2/11, van Sinn wrote: >> >> >> From: van Sinn >>> Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> Date: Saturday, April 2, 2011, 4:34 PM >>> An even better approach may be gluing >>> a thin layer of trespa to the board; I've heard some say >>> it's the best material, superceeding ebony and epoxy >>> coatings. >>> >>> Trespa is made of layers of a cardboard-like material, >>> bonded with heat/pressure into a very hard material. It can be >>> processed/sanded. >>> Only the phenylic filled, pressure treated/compressed wood >>> used by Zon basses should be better. >>> >>> I haven't tried it myself, but have an urge, so some sunny >>> day.. ;) >>> >>> BTW, if having problems gluing on (still oil filled) >>> fretboards, try contacting Gorilla Glue; I've heard they >>> have a product which should bond well to oily surfaces. >>> >>> /van >>> >>> >>> Toby Graves wrote: >>> >>> The epoxy didn't seem to want to stick to the surface >>>> >>> >>> of the fretboard when I've tried it. I've only >>> filled in slots with it. >>> >>> >>>> toby >>>> On Apr 1, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando >>>> >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello again, >>>>> >>>>> So I've pulled the frets on my guitar and filled >>>>> >>>> >>> in the frets with >>> >>> epoxy. As soon as it dries I'll be sanding >>>>> >>>> >>> them down and lowering the >>> >>> nut. My question to all you DIYers who may >>>>> >>>> >>> have done this yourself, >>> >>> did you leave the fretboard as is after you sanded >>>>> >>>> >>> the frets down >>> >>> again or did you cover the neck in epoxy and >>>>> >>>> >>> smooth that down? I've >>> >>> seen it both ways and I thought I'd get opinions >>>>> >>>> >>> from this august body >>> >>> of experimenters. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Kevin >>>>> >>>>> -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to >>>>> >>>> >>> be the body and to have a >>> >>> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the >>>>> >>>> >>> root cause of all trouble. >>> >>> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >>>>> >>>>> Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org >>>>> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- rgds, >>> van Sinn >>> >> > > -- > rgds, > van Sinn > --bcaec5015d333e3b1004a007d2d9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A friend sent me this and he swears by it for his stuff. I have yet to do t= his but I will...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5-mmlEZI3os

j

On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 1:44 PM, van Sinn <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk> w= rote:
tim echols wrote:
we never had any problem with the epoxy or super glue not sticking to the f= ingerboard. =A0i play bass, so i have no choice but to finish my neck or th= e monstrous roundwounds would eat the neck to grooves. i have a 5string tha= t i picked up for cheap in a consignment shop because someone had taken the= frets out (and did a great job, better than the old fender jazz i refinish= ed) but had not filled in the slots or finished the neck. =A0i am having to= stop myself from playing because it is marking up the neck considerably, a= nd i do not play with a much vibrato that would dig in. but i did find this= :

http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/= sevenstring-guitars/138328-ngmd-fretless-content.html

seems like it describes a step-by-step vespa-based finishing. =A0hope it he= lps.

time


Yup, I was going to refer this thread, but missed among my saved list over = there.


--- On Sat, 4/2/11, van Sinn <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk> wrote:


From: van Sinn <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk>
Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Saturday, April 2, 2011, 4:34 PM
An even better approach may be gluing
a thin layer of trespa to the board; I've heard some say
it's the best material, superceeding ebony and epoxy
coatings.

Trespa is made of layers of a cardboard-like material,
bonded with heat/pressure into a very hard material. It can be processed/sa= nded.
Only the phenylic filled, pressure treated/compressed wood
used by Zon basses should be better.

I haven't tried it myself, but have an urge, so some sunny
day.. ;)

BTW, if having problems gluing on (still oil filled)
fretboards, try contacting Gorilla Glue; I've heard they
have a product which should bond well to oily surfaces.

/van


Toby Graves wrote:

The epoxy didn't seem to want to stick to the surface

of the =A0fretboard when I've tried it. =A0I've only
filled in slots with it.


toby
On Apr 1, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando

wrote:

Hello again,

So I've pulled the frets on my guitar and filled

in the frets with

epoxy. =A0As soon as it dries I'll be sanding

them down and lowering the

nut. =A0My question to all you DIYers who may

have done this yourself,

did you leave the fretboard as is after you sanded

the frets down

again or did you cover the neck in epoxy and

smooth that down? =A0I've

seen it both ways and I thought I'd get opinions

from this august body

of experimenters.

Thanks,

Kevin

-- Till now you seriously considered yourself to

be the body and to =A0have a

form. That is the primal ignorance which is the

root cause of all =A0trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision: =A0http://www.minds-eye.org
Video = http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos


-- rgds,
van Sinn


--
rgds,
van Sinn

--bcaec5015d333e3b1004a007d2d9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 3 18:56:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92C1518349E; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:56:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wJPnK7H/+vCH9MRKNv3daOxnZmwc7OTSgSIul/XJ30g=; b=JaWCUSCZZ1XyJ4CtHBZecg/5bUwGgX1ch1Ek/fGUbanPM8pmOuvA+ufpyqb2cO5grY F7RVRCWcNXYVM9eyjIv9hEsT4Ojwh7ka579aw1MSY4WMO8Pou0GHE/9SnsJ0u9Lver8c OmFfUyFjk4MaVAuhIhqAPz8V7xVCT1WJpmINw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=hnW9VS5oIgTqKYCc2/z2aPHAN2SJdyyeWM1nfB3D7oKqHsp5Fm3z0zEE2DhJ/A9Jb/ oEvzj3AQxIw0KAmxfDxb77If2BIMyOr3SECCNRZZhnUhiYhISvMH+Ze1Xs2Odga9ZGtF kNL1m6KlIEPse8xzZhCZMqoOhFFEx1CQYs2kQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 19:56:31 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: max/msp experts - midi clock smoother? From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd707788341fd04a0083342 Resent-Message-ID: <31ADl.A.nwD.fLMmNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108796 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:56:32 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd707788341fd04a0083342 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 thanks jeff. actually i don't think live rounds tempos any more. i did a few versions ago, but when i look at the tempo indicator it's moving around either side of some average tempo. whether this is down to mobius or live i don't know, but if i monitor the midi clock sent from mobius over the iac bus in bidule, i still see movement, which is why i used the "rounded tempos for live" checkbox in the "midi clock to sync" bidule in my bidule layout. this worked extremely well for me and all my delay plugins synced quite happily with whatever was going on in mobius, as they had a steady clock to sync to. it may not be exactly the same clock that mobius is putting out, but when you're just syncing delays etc, that doesn't matter so much. if live rounded the clock tempo up or down, i'd be happy, but from what i've read on the web, it's just not good at syncing to external clock. if i can get this little max/msp patch to work, i think i will have cracked it for the moment. On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > Sorry I've been away. First of all, this is the first time in five years > I've heard reports of the Mobius > master clock being "flakey". > --000e0cd707788341fd04a0083342 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks jeff. actually i don't think live rounds tempos any more. i did = a few versions ago, but when i look at the tempo indicator it's moving = around either side of some average tempo. whether this is down to mobius or= live i don't know, but if i monitor the midi clock sent from mobius ov= er the iac bus in bidule, i still see movement, which is why i used the &qu= ot;rounded tempos for live" checkbox in the "midi clock to sync&q= uot; bidule in my bidule layout. this worked extremely well for me and all = my delay plugins synced quite happily with whatever was going on in mobius,= as they had a steady clock to sync to. it may not be exactly the same cloc= k that mobius is putting out, but when you're just syncing delays etc, = that doesn't matter so much. if live rounded the clock tempo up or down= , i'd be happy, but from what i've read on the web, it's just n= ot good at syncing to external clock. if i can get this little max/msp patc= h to work, i think i will have cracked it for the moment.

On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Jeff Larson = <jeff@zonemobiu= s.com> wrote:
Sorry I've been away. =A0First= of all, this is the first time in five years I've heard reports of the= Mobius
master clock being "flakey". =A0
--000e0cd707788341fd04a0083342-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 3 19:30:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 08EC318349D; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 19:30:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-04-03_06:2011-04-02,2011-04-03,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1104030084 In-reply-to: <4D98B1FB.7090008@post.cybercity.dk> References: <750603.65041.qm@web120715.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4D98B1FB.7090008@post.cybercity.dk> Message-id: <40A0C2FE-7A91-4BC1-86F7-0F879A0CEF08@mac.com> From: Toby Graves Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 12:23:44 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108797 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 19:30:14 +0000 (UTC) Interesting thing I'm seeing: I get the fretless fingerboard to the point it's really smooth, but once tension is applied and there's some relief on the neck the epoxy bulges up a little and you feel the fret lines. toby On Apr 3, 2011, at 10:44 AM, van Sinn wrote: > tim echols wrote: >> we never had any problem with the epoxy or super glue not sticking >> to the fingerboard. i play bass, so i have no choice but to >> finish my neck or the monstrous roundwounds would eat the neck to >> grooves. i have a 5string that i picked up for cheap in a >> consignment shop because someone had taken the frets out (and did >> a great job, better than the old fender jazz i refinished) but had >> not filled in the slots or finished the neck. i am having to stop >> myself from playing because it is marking up the neck >> considerably, and i do not play with a much vibrato that would dig >> in. but i did find this: >> http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/sevenstring-guitars/138328-ngmd- >> fretless-content.html >> seems like it describes a step-by-step vespa-based finishing. >> hope it helps. >> time > > > Yup, I was going to refer this thread, but missed among my saved > list over there. > > >> --- On Sat, 4/2/11, van Sinn wrote: >>> From: van Sinn >>> Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> Date: Saturday, April 2, 2011, 4:34 PM >>> An even better approach may be gluing >>> a thin layer of trespa to the board; I've heard some say >>> it's the best material, superceeding ebony and epoxy >>> coatings. >>> >>> Trespa is made of layers of a cardboard-like material, >>> bonded with heat/pressure into a very hard material. It can be >>> processed/sanded. >>> Only the phenylic filled, pressure treated/compressed wood >>> used by Zon basses should be better. >>> >>> I haven't tried it myself, but have an urge, so some sunny >>> day.. ;) >>> >>> BTW, if having problems gluing on (still oil filled) >>> fretboards, try contacting Gorilla Glue; I've heard they >>> have a product which should bond well to oily surfaces. >>> >>> /van >>> >>> >>> Toby Graves wrote: >>> >>>> The epoxy didn't seem to want to stick to the surface >>> >>> of the fretboard when I've tried it. I've only >>> filled in slots with it. >>> >>>> >>>> toby >>>> On Apr 1, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>> Hello again, >>>>> >>>>> So I've pulled the frets on my guitar and filled >>> >>> in the frets with >>> >>>>> epoxy. As soon as it dries I'll be sanding >>> >>> them down and lowering the >>> >>>>> nut. My question to all you DIYers who may >>> >>> have done this yourself, >>> >>>>> did you leave the fretboard as is after you sanded >>> >>> the frets down >>> >>>>> again or did you cover the neck in epoxy and >>> >>> smooth that down? I've >>> >>>>> seen it both ways and I thought I'd get opinions >>> >>> from this august body >>> >>>>> of experimenters. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Kevin >>>>> >>>>> -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to >>> >>> be the body and to have a >>> >>>>> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the >>> >>> root cause of all trouble. >>> >>>>> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >>>>> >>>>> Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org >>>>> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >>> >>> >>> -- rgds, >>> van Sinn > > > -- > rgds, > van Sinn > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 3 19:48:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8019C18349D; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 19:48:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pzpv0BTfpxI230oc/AkrNQsQ6Xbxamnv2chEdhh65BI=; b=lTpVY/zRAHCAImHFsOLjxcgmroVnWERF7DB+ZTDyzuFmk7HjUXc5KNBFPkE+jczMze IFAwp8bx5OZiNxbhe49k+4xC2YlWQJg8Js0Ui1R5w1/3TfWGtjSmBMAe5KU+PkrnIein sIw1b1uGmcCVvt4fbIg1uDCEnO6cNv4pUIGYc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tV6uDcaTPa01Juba1BfedhC0/fdK6nOamIDH75x9BMOIv2822N/rPxdguTHDJeUt68 NHJqXVkph1CwhlcbcqOYTRBtnbxLYvAFQnz3bJd0P9CgDI16b1f3iiDuS7KTnuyWk9mp m0x/z2FNDTo6q+xHwOhdI0Cn3PFna0Wt6D0Tg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 21:48:16 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: max/msp experts - midi clock smoother? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108798 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 19:48:18 +0000 (UTC) Jeff a funny thing happens as well with mobius: sometimes when i sync Mobius to ableton and choose host bar and press record the display just reads syncronize but does nothing,do you know what is happening? thanx Luis On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > thanks jeff. actually i don't think live rounds tempos any more. i did a = few > versions ago, but when i look at the tempo indicator it's moving around > either side of some average tempo. whether this is down to mobius or live= i > don't know, but if i monitor the midi clock sent from mobius over the iac > bus in bidule, i still see movement, which is why i used the "rounded tem= pos > for live" checkbox in the "midi clock to sync" bidule in my bidule layout= . > this worked extremely well for me and all my delay plugins synced quite > happily with whatever was going on in mobius, as they had a steady clock = to > sync to. it may not be exactly the same clock that mobius is putting out, > but when you're just syncing delays etc, that doesn't matter so much. if > live rounded the clock tempo up or down, i'd be happy, but from what i've > read on the web, it's just not good at syncing to external clock. if i ca= n > get this little max/msp patch to work, i think i will have cracked it for > the moment. > > On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: >> >> Sorry I've been away. =A0First of all, this is the first time in five ye= ars >> I've heard reports of the Mobius >> master clock being "flakey". --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 3 20:11:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 52E7E183453; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 20:11:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 491 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 20:11:24 UTC Reply-To: From: "RICK AZIM" To: Subject: loopers from hell! Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 13:03:08 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01CBF1FF.7AE7FED0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcvyOh86UbVPLSD4Tym8MxNgmQop5w== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.1.7600.16543 Message-ID: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108799 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 20:11:25 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01CBF1FF.7AE7FED0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: loopers from hell! Hi Kim, My name's Rick Azim. I live in Seattle. I have a long standing 2 nighter solo gig and need the best looper I can find. I've been trying to dance between a Boss RC20 and a Line6 DL4, but I can't get what I need due to their respective limitations and quirks. Here's a list of what I need: 1. stop record/stop track (RC20-rt pedal; but not DL4--very poor) 2. stop record/go right to playback (RC20-left pedal & DL4 do this) 3. stop record/go right to overdub (DL4; but not RC20) 4. erase overdub/keep basic track (RC20; but not DL4) 5. go to top (DL4 in Play Once mode only; RC20 will do it in Play once", but have to go to the floor to switch it during song-IMPOSSIBLE! 6. play once (DL4; but not RC20)--can't get into "Play once" mode from unsaved track in RC20--very poor) 7. separate tracks to lay in a bridge or ending -- switchable in or out, with overdub capability. 8. savable, switchable tracks--up or down ( RC20 has only 11-- I need room for 40 or so) 9. SD card slot for saving tracks --4Gb would be nice 10. downloadable/uploadable digitally 11. Tap/guide COMPLETE MUTE--not just a knob that can accidentally get nudged up, to wake up the audience with an obnoxious bass drum beat--INFURIATING & EMBARRASSING! Thank you very much, Boss! I'm sure other things will come to mind later. Is there anything like this out there? Thanks, Rick ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01CBF1FF.7AE7FED0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rick Stationary 1 Stationery
Subject:=20 loopers from hell!
Hi Kim,=20
My name's Rick = Azim. I live=20 in Seattle. I have a long standing 2 nighter solo gig and need the best = looper I=20 can find.  I've been trying to dance between a Boss RC20 and a = Line6 DL4,=20 but I can't get what I need due to their respective limitations and=20 quirks. 
Here's a list = of what I=20 need:
 1.=20 stop record/stop track (RC20-rt pedal; but not DL4--very=20 poor)
 2. stop = record/go=20 right to playback (RC20-left pedal & DL4 do = this)
 3. stop = record/go=20 right to overdub (DL4; but not RC20)
 4. erase = overdub/keep=20 basic track (RC20; but not DL4)
 5. go to = top (DL4 in=20 Play Once mode only; RC20 will do it in Play once",  but have to go = to the=20 floor to switch it during song-IMPOSSIBLE!
 6. play once (DL4; but not RC20)--can't get into = "Play once"=20 mode from unsaved track in RC20--very poor)
 7. = separate tracks to=20 lay in a=20 bridge or ending -- switchable in or out, with = overdub=20 capability.
 8. = savable,=20 switchable tracks--up or down  ( RC20 has only 11--  = I need=20 room for 40 or so)
 9. SD = card slot for saving tracks --4Gb would be=20 nice
10. = downloadable/uploadable=20 digitally
11. Tap/guide = COMPLETE=20 MUTE--not just a knob that can accidentally get nudged up, to wake up = the=20 audience with an obnoxious bass drum beat--INFURIATING & = EMBARRASSING! Thank=20 you very much, Boss!
 
I'm sure other = things will=20 come to mind later. Is there anything like this out = there?
 
Thanks,=20 Rick
------=_NextPart_000_0000_01CBF1FF.7AE7FED0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 3 20:27:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BAE29183453; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 20:27:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1301862427; bh=ZT2amWxWKdE21zZdewvboZ2Se1cNzWm+00aCfWe0trw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=b3y1AqaVpoGv0pM1spyKhg43xrjiyQ+clQLb5N01q4s0kk08c8ekbIZL5mGz49CDCFdYXgPEvkdnbANOTIhZydq8HgTipg64GWtRcxL5Z20Wet3NpWW0yTWOw4kFr8sx1FKCb737KFx+FG5oSUSrrPwItcJ8NfHE2jq06FTZ+G8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=NtwpS/ccuhfTHYZlTNa2vpUUiM4Y7iBkPm9tiz5h1b8bNm6R7R8/hzyltOsxpqT6+YH2xhci3dE3a4FHO2fkmNtn8CqgJddxbcTHjQ4QypRkEJc/mmYmMqOaQZ1dZ5wZIgN/TerODi+lOFaJGs7BjTUn4ikq6HJN8gDfLZtuuL0=; Message-ID: <198154.95002.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: BNnvQ1IVM1mhgSeb7tz4EIPNPLeA5IX3.WH10Cb6FjKqqKQ 7bQJyk_1n7wWtIlRVvY8gyF8gBgnKgHkmYyNjhKnmkgvIGwkaFEcAC_Y_tFY .e5zKbbGLfe89LAMGreNYBoO9AygZHRe1qFbGfwhDbaULwQmYdrmwnpy2TiE 5IaPEy1a7z6oxQIAqfkfbhu0zgBlgksrtpVzrfssW3YghZYiiNG9g8uJWFFL X9Jcq0oGtENpuRXhfbltIkUrCnItnHdha0Vr0D2b_mxK574VIzxgB2_O4esD 7rx2rNEdEaase_i_U4hr6eztFDk7PKrHHgxpurShHNBGIMrqnTnEm.F5CoeC G.vzeB.GMWp7V5yHgyF2s0wup9QgABoKg29dCbgVFRushX6omAb9CpWI- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/12.0.2 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 13:27:06 -0700 (PDT) From: tim echols Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <40A0C2FE-7A91-4BC1-86F7-0F879A0CEF08@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <8cpy3D.A.exF.cgNmNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108800 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 20:27:08 +0000 (UTC) how long did you let the epoxy dry? is it a regular epoxy or boat epoxy? time --- On Sun, 4/3/11, Toby Graves wrote: > From: Toby Graves > Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Sunday, April 3, 2011, 2:23 PM > Interesting thing I'm seeing:=A0 I > get the fretless fingerboard to the point it's really > smooth, but once tension is applied and there's some relief > on the neck the epoxy bulges up a little and you feel the > fret lines. >=20 > toby >=20 >=20 > On Apr 3, 2011, at 10:44 AM, van Sinn wrote: >=20 > > tim echols wrote: > >> we never had any problem with the epoxy or super > glue not sticking to the fingerboard.=A0 i play bass, so > i have no choice but to finish my neck or the monstrous > roundwounds would eat the neck to grooves. i have a 5string > that i picked up for cheap in a consignment shop because > someone had taken the frets out (and did a great job, better > than the old fender jazz i refinished) but had not filled in > the slots or finished the neck.=A0 i am having to stop > myself from playing because it is marking up the neck > considerably, and i do not play with a much vibrato that > would dig in. but i did find this: > >> http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/sevenstring-guitars/138328-ngmd-fretl= ess-content.html > >> seems like it describes a step-by-step vespa-based > finishing.=A0 hope it helps. > >> time > >=20 > >=20 > > Yup, I was going to refer this thread, but missed > among my saved list over there. > >=20 > >=20 > >> --- On Sat, 4/2/11, van Sinn > wrote: > >>> From: van Sinn > >>> Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers > >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >>> Date: Saturday, April 2, 2011, 4:34 PM > >>> An even better approach may be gluing > >>> a thin layer of trespa to the board; I've > heard some say > >>> it's the best material, superceeding ebony and > epoxy > >>> coatings. > >>>=20 > >>> Trespa is made of layers of a cardboard-like > material, > >>> bonded with heat/pressure into a very hard > material. It can be processed/sanded. > >>> Only the phenylic filled, pressure > treated/compressed wood > >>> used by Zon basses should be better. > >>>=20 > >>> I haven't tried it myself, but have an urge, > so some sunny > >>> day.. ;) > >>>=20 > >>> BTW, if having problems gluing on (still oil > filled) > >>> fretboards, try contacting Gorilla Glue; I've > heard they > >>> have a product which should bond well to oily > surfaces. > >>>=20 > >>> /van > >>>=20 > >>>=20 > >>> Toby Graves wrote: > >>>=20 > >>>> The epoxy didn't seem to want to stick to > the surface > >>>=20 > >>> of the=A0 fretboard when I've tried > it.=A0 I've only > >>> filled in slots with it. > >>>=20 > >>>>=20 > >>>> toby > >>>> On Apr 1, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Kevin > Cheli-Colando > >>>=20 > >>> wrote: > >>>=20 > >>>>> Hello again, > >>>>>=20 > >>>>> So I've pulled the frets on my guitar > and filled > >>>=20 > >>> in the frets with > >>>=20 > >>>>> epoxy.=A0 As soon as it dries I'll > be sanding > >>>=20 > >>> them down and lowering the > >>>=20 > >>>>> nut.=A0 My question to all you > DIYers who may > >>>=20 > >>> have done this yourself, > >>>=20 > >>>>> did you leave the fretboard as is > after you sanded > >>>=20 > >>> the frets down > >>>=20 > >>>>> again or did you cover the neck in > epoxy and > >>>=20 > >>> smooth that down?=A0 I've > >>>=20 > >>>>> seen it both ways and I thought I'd > get opinions > >>>=20 > >>> from this august body > >>>=20 > >>>>> of experimenters. > >>>>>=20 > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>=20 > >>>>> Kevin > >>>>>=20 > >>>>> -- Till now you seriously considered > yourself to > >>>=20 > >>> be the body and to=A0 have a > >>>=20 > >>>>> form. That is the primal ignorance > which is the > >>>=20 > >>> root cause of all=A0 trouble. > >>>=20 > >>>>> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > >>>>>=20 > >>>>> Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org > >>>>> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > >>>=20 > >>>=20 > >>> -- rgds, > >>> van Sinn > >=20 > >=20 > > --rgds, > > van Sinn > >=20 >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 3 20:33:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40480183453; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 20:33:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Jeff Larson Subject: Re: max/msp experts - midi clock smoother? Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 15:33:03 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108801 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 20:33:08 +0000 (UTC) Is the Ableton transport running? Mobius will not receive any beat = notifications unless the Ableton transport is running and counting off = beats.=20 On Apr 3, 2011, at 2:48 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Jeff a funny thing happens as well with mobius: > sometimes when i sync Mobius to ableton and choose host bar and press > record the display just reads syncronize but does nothing,do you know > what is happening? > thanx > Luis >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 3 20:53:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41B02183453; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 20:53:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D98DEF8.5050404@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:56:24 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers References: <198154.95002.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <198154.95002.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108802 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 20:53:23 +0000 (UTC) Anyone using West System 123 marine epoxy? I'm told this should be among the best epoxies for such uses.. /van tim echols wrote: > how long did you let the epoxy dry? is it a regular epoxy or boat epoxy? > > > time > > --- On Sun, 4/3/11, Toby Graves wrote: > > >>From: Toby Graves >>Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers >>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>Date: Sunday, April 3, 2011, 2:23 PM >>Interesting thing I'm seeing: I >>get the fretless fingerboard to the point it's really >>smooth, but once tension is applied and there's some relief >>on the neck the epoxy bulges up a little and you feel the >>fret lines. >> >>toby >> >> >>On Apr 3, 2011, at 10:44 AM, van Sinn wrote: >> >> >>>tim echols wrote: >>> >>>>we never had any problem with the epoxy or super >> >>glue not sticking to the fingerboard. i play bass, so >>i have no choice but to finish my neck or the monstrous >>roundwounds would eat the neck to grooves. i have a 5string >>that i picked up for cheap in a consignment shop because >>someone had taken the frets out (and did a great job, better >>than the old fender jazz i refinished) but had not filled in >>the slots or finished the neck. i am having to stop >>myself from playing because it is marking up the neck >>considerably, and i do not play with a much vibrato that >>would dig in. but i did find this: >> >>>>http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/sevenstring-guitars/138328-ngmd-fretless-content.html >>>>seems like it describes a step-by-step vespa-based >> >>finishing. hope it helps. >> >>>>time >>> >>> >>>Yup, I was going to refer this thread, but missed >> >>among my saved list over there. >> >>> >>>>--- On Sat, 4/2/11, van Sinn >> >>wrote: >> >>>>>From: van Sinn >>>>>Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers >>>>>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>>>>Date: Saturday, April 2, 2011, 4:34 PM >>>>>An even better approach may be gluing >>>>>a thin layer of trespa to the board; I've >> >>heard some say >> >>>>>it's the best material, superceeding ebony and >> >>epoxy >> >>>>>coatings. >>>>> >>>>>Trespa is made of layers of a cardboard-like >> >>material, >> >>>>>bonded with heat/pressure into a very hard >> >>material. It can be processed/sanded. >> >>>>>Only the phenylic filled, pressure >> >>treated/compressed wood >> >>>>>used by Zon basses should be better. >>>>> >>>>>I haven't tried it myself, but have an urge, >> >>so some sunny >> >>>>>day.. ;) >>>>> >>>>>BTW, if having problems gluing on (still oil >> >>filled) >> >>>>>fretboards, try contacting Gorilla Glue; I've >> >>heard they >> >>>>>have a product which should bond well to oily >> >>surfaces. >> >>>>>/van >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Toby Graves wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>The epoxy didn't seem to want to stick to >> >>the surface >> >>>>>of the fretboard when I've tried >> >>it. I've only >> >>>>>filled in slots with it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>toby >>>>>>On Apr 1, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Kevin >> >>Cheli-Colando >> >>>>>wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>Hello again, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>So I've pulled the frets on my guitar >> >>and filled >> >>>>>in the frets with >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>epoxy. As soon as it dries I'll >> >>be sanding >> >>>>>them down and lowering the >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>nut. My question to all you >> >>DIYers who may >> >>>>>have done this yourself, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>did you leave the fretboard as is >> >>after you sanded >> >>>>>the frets down >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>again or did you cover the neck in >> >>epoxy and >> >>>>>smooth that down? I've >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>seen it both ways and I thought I'd >> >>get opinions >> >>>>>from this august body >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>of experimenters. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Thanks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Kevin >>>>>>> >>>>>>>-- Till now you seriously considered >> >>yourself to >> >>>>>be the body and to have a >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>form. That is the primal ignorance >> >>which is the >> >>>>>root cause of all trouble. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org >>>>>>>Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>-- rgds, >>>>>van Sinn >>> >>> >>>--rgds, >>>van Sinn >>> >> >> > > > > > -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 3 21:03:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 355F9183453; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 21:03:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed; reply-type=original X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-04-03_08:2011-04-02,2011-04-03,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1104030100 Message-id: <4D6BB7D2FDF24DB6AE5ED9491C428790@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <198154.95002.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:03:33 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108803 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 21:03:46 +0000 (UTC) I let it dry at least 24 hours. It's the normal stuff you get at a hardware store, nothing special. toby ----- Original Message ----- From: "tim echols" To: Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 1:27 PM Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers how long did you let the epoxy dry? is it a regular epoxy or boat epoxy? time --- On Sun, 4/3/11, Toby Graves wrote: > From: Toby Graves > Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Sunday, April 3, 2011, 2:23 PM > Interesting thing I'm seeing: I > get the fretless fingerboard to the point it's really > smooth, but once tension is applied and there's some relief > on the neck the epoxy bulges up a little and you feel the > fret lines. > > toby > > > On Apr 3, 2011, at 10:44 AM, van Sinn wrote: > > > tim echols wrote: > >> we never had any problem with the epoxy or super > glue not sticking to the fingerboard. i play bass, so > i have no choice but to finish my neck or the monstrous > roundwounds would eat the neck to grooves. i have a 5string > that i picked up for cheap in a consignment shop because > someone had taken the frets out (and did a great job, better > than the old fender jazz i refinished) but had not filled in > the slots or finished the neck. i am having to stop > myself from playing because it is marking up the neck > considerably, and i do not play with a much vibrato that > would dig in. but i did find this: > >> http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/sevenstring-guitars/138328-ngmd-fretless-content.html > >> seems like it describes a step-by-step vespa-based > finishing. hope it helps. > >> time > > > > > > Yup, I was going to refer this thread, but missed > among my saved list over there. > > > > > >> --- On Sat, 4/2/11, van Sinn > wrote: > >>> From: van Sinn > >>> Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers > >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >>> Date: Saturday, April 2, 2011, 4:34 PM > >>> An even better approach may be gluing > >>> a thin layer of trespa to the board; I've > heard some say > >>> it's the best material, superceeding ebony and > epoxy > >>> coatings. > >>> > >>> Trespa is made of layers of a cardboard-like > material, > >>> bonded with heat/pressure into a very hard > material. It can be processed/sanded. > >>> Only the phenylic filled, pressure > treated/compressed wood > >>> used by Zon basses should be better. > >>> > >>> I haven't tried it myself, but have an urge, > so some sunny > >>> day.. ;) > >>> > >>> BTW, if having problems gluing on (still oil > filled) > >>> fretboards, try contacting Gorilla Glue; I've > heard they > >>> have a product which should bond well to oily > surfaces. > >>> > >>> /van > >>> > >>> > >>> Toby Graves wrote: > >>> > >>>> The epoxy didn't seem to want to stick to > the surface > >>> > >>> of the fretboard when I've tried > it. I've only > >>> filled in slots with it. > >>> > >>>> > >>>> toby > >>>> On Apr 1, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Kevin > Cheli-Colando > >>> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>>> Hello again, > >>>>> > >>>>> So I've pulled the frets on my guitar > and filled > >>> > >>> in the frets with > >>> > >>>>> epoxy. As soon as it dries I'll > be sanding > >>> > >>> them down and lowering the > >>> > >>>>> nut. My question to all you > DIYers who may > >>> > >>> have done this yourself, > >>> > >>>>> did you leave the fretboard as is > after you sanded > >>> > >>> the frets down > >>> > >>>>> again or did you cover the neck in > epoxy and > >>> > >>> smooth that down? I've > >>> > >>>>> seen it both ways and I thought I'd > get opinions > >>> > >>> from this august body > >>> > >>>>> of experimenters. > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>>> > >>>>> Kevin > >>>>> > >>>>> -- Till now you seriously considered > yourself to > >>> > >>> be the body and to have a > >>> > >>>>> form. That is the primal ignorance > which is the > >>> > >>> root cause of all trouble. > >>> > >>>>> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > >>>>> > >>>>> Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > >>>>> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > >>> > >>> > >>> -- rgds, > >>> van Sinn > > > > > > --rgds, > > van Sinn > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 3 21:35:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6460F18349D; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 21:34:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: max/msp experts - midi clock smoother? References: From: Jeff Larson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--710735809 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 16:34:54 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108804 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 21:34:59 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--710735809 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On the Mac through IAC into Bidule I'm seeing jitter +- about .05 BPM = with occasional .4 spikes. It's a little better on Windows. This is higher than I was expecting, = and I might be able to improve that but some amount of jitter is unavoidable in consumer OSs. What I = suspect happens is that drum machines, sequencers, or anything that = actually needs to sync a pattern to a tempo will tend to do it's own = smoothing, while simpler things like a delay plugin that just wants to know "120" won't = smooth and may attempt to follow very minute variations. Splicing in a tempo smoother might = help there. In Bidule a better way to do that would be to use VST sync which is much more accurate than = MIDI but not every plugin supports that and AFAIK Bidule is the only host that supports it. Jeff =20 On Apr 3, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > thanks jeff. actually i don't think live rounds tempos any more. i did = a few versions ago, but when i look at the tempo indicator it's moving = around either side of some average tempo. whether this is down to mobius = or live i don't know, but if i monitor the midi clock sent from mobius = over the iac bus in bidule, i still see movement, which is why i used = the "rounded tempos for live" checkbox in the "midi clock to sync" = bidule in my bidule layout. this worked extremely well for me and all my = delay plugins synced quite happily with whatever was going on in mobius, = as they had a steady clock to sync to. it may not be exactly the same = clock that mobius is putting out, but when you're just syncing delays = etc, that doesn't matter so much. if live rounded the clock tempo up or = down, i'd be happy, but from what i've read on the web, it's just not = good at syncing to external clock. if i can get this little max/msp = patch to work, i think i will have cracked it for the moment. >=20 > On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Jeff Larson = wrote: > Sorry I've been away. First of all, this is the first time in five = years I've heard reports of the Mobius > master clock being "flakey". =20 --Apple-Mail-2--710735809 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
to follow = very minute variations.  Splicing in a tempo smoother might help = there.  In Bidule a better
way to do that would be to use = VST sync which is much more accurate than MIDI but not = every
plugin supports that and AFAIK Bidule is the only host = that supports it.

Jeff
   =  



On Apr 3, 2011, = at 1:56 PM, Simeon Harris wrote:

thanks = jeff. actually i don't think live rounds tempos any more. i did a few = versions ago, but when i look at the tempo indicator it's moving around = either side of some average tempo. whether this is down to mobius or = live i don't know, but if i monitor the midi clock sent from mobius over = the iac bus in bidule, i still see movement, which is why i used the = "rounded tempos for live" checkbox in the "midi clock to sync" bidule in = my bidule layout. this worked extremely well for me and all my delay = plugins synced quite happily with whatever was going on in mobius, as = they had a steady clock to sync to. it may not be exactly the same clock = that mobius is putting out, but when you're just syncing delays etc, = that doesn't matter so much. if live rounded the clock tempo up or down, = i'd be happy, but from what i've read on the web, it's just not good at = syncing to external clock. if i can get this little max/msp patch to = work, i think i will have cracked it for the moment.

On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Jeff = Larson <jeff@zonemobius.com> = wrote:
Sorry I've been away. =  First of all, this is the first time in five years I've heard = reports of the Mobius
master clock being "flakey". =  

= --Apple-Mail-2--710735809-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 3 22:03:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E400C18349D; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 22:03:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1301868218; bh=Vi0qAXEBv4bL2GRDEwJPhUzxmmIudXOXAtUIx06VL5s=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=z+4dFUbJd6F8pI7h1hv8k3pFvpnU4NjvepgZakEciQvYtuaqHFmb+h7V3KxFWri91eFtqlup0kV4KX39LslvAdZdeLL2ERBLhWyBuz51Yh0jXyWaqYjTia7mjaYCaql+g3MCHAQMZt2/sOG4V0ehBx/S7cjPB+VqEZEFnh2GFRk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=O9UBG7gHyASLxhlrW0m/AJqtxiS6VYpPVeNYn/s2teiDZiGq574CPbYg4fQcgbPv62KZHD6r8/OnIELsrtYKH77Dp1iK381xsklo/Sgxmr+Ims9k5nhslN2DS8BctrdlnMIG5PPDv/fN/GsyUu8/IAv4e3OKoWEnzI5iCThWdQE=; Message-ID: <314218.75721.qm@web120702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: _94CS2MVM1lFSo4DL6Wklc09EeKADksKDd_.TaKRiGDZ5Q3 1fDA.0BcVEcLD8KUl.J1n8Fu1er5mrwfI3XSLGQ1M9Z3TOPssoTVx0YS00gN zOVXmqtv9MLid2w8_9dKhQ4BYUGuQbpPR8FiaA_VGVMzkThX.rN0qAPkziCG F0uXkeASkWoZL38fBpSEhWTmj8MTzkUpDo3d8xeG0Ml.RAStBLWAvNzCCbLd Rw4DxCHsfei_EVm4PpQBZ2r.rBzM9mxwywQNAV5e1CiKije6RQRQ4H1U4DSb RkhE.nQJfQR8HeExkBURuzKt39kC.XWEzfApGtzE2D9mBaIwdYVw91HGknrS jlrIdrmNYdHBdQI06XI.olvy1.6C1_zqjhz.mSaHO3dghbJ1w2uTl6NI- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/12.0.2 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 15:03:37 -0700 (PDT) From: tim echols Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D6BB7D2FDF24DB6AE5ED9491C428790@NORBY11> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108805 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 22:03:39 +0000 (UTC) the marine epoxy takes a bit longer to dry, and as far as i know no epoxy i= s self-leveling. the regular stuff should dry in a day. we would never us= e less than 2 coats, drying in between, and had to selectively apply a thir= d layer to any areas that were not covered well, so it generally took 3 day= s, then a fourth to sand and polish. you need to be very aware of the even= ness of the epoxy only if you are going to lower the action accordingly, in= my experience. you can buff out most irregularities, but i prefer 2 good s= olid layers, one for the initial coating and one for the surface that will = be buffed down. --- On Sun, 4/3/11, Toby G wrote: > From: Toby G > Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Sunday, April 3, 2011, 4:03 PM > I let it dry at least 24 hours.=A0 > It's the normal stuff you get at a hardware=20 > store, nothing special. >=20 > toby > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "tim echols" > To: > Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 1:27 PM > Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers >=20 >=20 > how long did you let the epoxy dry?=A0 is it a regular > epoxy or boat epoxy? >=20 >=20 > time >=20 > --- On Sun, 4/3/11, Toby Graves > wrote: >=20 > > From: Toby Graves > > Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Date: Sunday, April 3, 2011, 2:23 PM > > Interesting thing I'm seeing: I > > get the fretless fingerboard to the point it's really > > smooth, but once tension is applied and there's some > relief > > on the neck the epoxy bulges up a little and you feel > the > > fret lines. > > > > toby > > > > > > On Apr 3, 2011, at 10:44 AM, van Sinn wrote: > > > > > tim echols wrote: > > >> we never had any problem with the epoxy or > super > > glue not sticking to the fingerboard. i play bass, so > > i have no choice but to finish my neck or the > monstrous > > roundwounds would eat the neck to grooves. i have a > 5string > > that i picked up for cheap in a consignment shop > because > > someone had taken the frets out (and did a great job, > better > > than the old fender jazz i refinished) but had not > filled in > > the slots or finished the neck. i am having to stop > > myself from playing because it is marking up the neck > > considerably, and i do not play with a much vibrato > that > > would dig in. but i did find this: > > >> http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/sevenstring-guitars/138328-ngmd-fre= tless-content.html > > >> seems like it describes a step-by-step > vespa-based > > finishing. hope it helps. > > >> time > > > > > > > > > Yup, I was going to refer this thread, but > missed > > among my saved list over there. > > > > > > > > >> --- On Sat, 4/2/11, van Sinn > > wrote: > > >>> From: van Sinn > > >>> Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers > > >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > >>> Date: Saturday, April 2, 2011, 4:34 PM > > >>> An even better approach may be gluing > > >>> a thin layer of trespa to the board; > I've > > heard some say > > >>> it's the best material, superceeding > ebony and > > epoxy > > >>> coatings. > > >>> > > >>> Trespa is made of layers of a > cardboard-like > > material, > > >>> bonded with heat/pressure into a very > hard > > material. It can be processed/sanded. > > >>> Only the phenylic filled, pressure > > treated/compressed wood > > >>> used by Zon basses should be better. > > >>> > > >>> I haven't tried it myself, but have an > urge, > > so some sunny > > >>> day.. ;) > > >>> > > >>> BTW, if having problems gluing on (still > oil > > filled) > > >>> fretboards, try contacting Gorilla Glue; > I've > > heard they > > >>> have a product which should bond well to > oily > > surfaces. > > >>> > > >>> /van > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Toby Graves wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> The epoxy didn't seem to want to > stick to > > the surface > > >>> > > >>> of the fretboard when I've tried > > it. I've only > > >>> filled in slots with it. > > >>> > > >>>> > > >>>> toby > > >>>> On Apr 1, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Kevin > > Cheli-Colando > > >>> > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>>> Hello again, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> So I've pulled the frets on my > guitar > > and filled > > >>> > > >>> in the frets with > > >>> > > >>>>> epoxy. As soon as it dries I'll > > be sanding > > >>> > > >>> them down and lowering the > > >>> > > >>>>> nut. My question to all you > > DIYers who may > > >>> > > >>> have done this yourself, > > >>> > > >>>>> did you leave the fretboard as > is > > after you sanded > > >>> > > >>> the frets down > > >>> > > >>>>> again or did you cover the neck > in > > epoxy and > > >>> > > >>> smooth that down? I've > > >>> > > >>>>> seen it both ways and I thought > I'd > > get opinions > > >>> > > >>> from this august body > > >>> > > >>>>> of experimenters. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Thanks, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Kevin > > >>>>> > > >>>>> -- Till now you seriously > considered > > yourself to > > >>> > > >>> be the body and to have a > > >>> > > >>>>> form. That is the primal > ignorance > > which is the > > >>> > > >>> root cause of all trouble. > > >>> > > >>>>> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > > >>>>> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> -- rgds, > > >>> van Sinn > > > > > > > > > --rgds, > > > van Sinn > > > > > > > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 4 02:59:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D47E8183453; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 02:59:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D9933F3.9090709@soundscapes.us> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:58:59 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Thought Radio Playlist for April 2, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108806 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 02:59:04 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2011/110402.html The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EDT/GMT-4 on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Show #195 April 2, 2011. On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. Each contemporary issue comes with a CD. However, the early issues came with a cassette. The cassettes from issues one through thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic slip covers with artwork and track details. Details are at: http://sequencesmagazine.com Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== vidnaObmana Guarding Souls Chasing the Odyssee(Tonefloat) VA [Airsculpture] unreleased Sequences No. 12 VA [Waveform] mix and Tornado Sequences No. 12 from Virtual World Broekhuis, Keller, Far From India 2009 In Repelen (Manikin) and Schonwalder Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== David Lanz London Skies Liverpool (Moon Boy Music) Matthew Schoening Fire Elements (none) Dante Bucci HangFunk Reminiscence (none) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Poor Genetic Island Noises Island Noises (Progrock) Material Spock's Beard From the Darkness X (none) Alan Morse Cold Fusion Four O'clock and Hysteria (InsideOut) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill Fox ======================================================================== Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EDT/GMT-4. Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music. Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Website - http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 4 07:33:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E57B8183453; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 07:33:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D9974F1.6040303@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 09:36:17 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers References: <198154.95002.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4D6BB7D2FDF24DB6AE5ED9491C428790@NORBY11> In-Reply-To: <4D6BB7D2FDF24DB6AE5ED9491C428790@NORBY11> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108807 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 07:33:13 +0000 (UTC) I would never use the regular epoxy; my experience is it doesn't harden up hard enough. Over at sevenstring.org, Dan from Oni Guitars in Australia adviced using West System marine epoxy. /van Toby G wrote: > I let it dry at least 24 hours. It's the normal stuff you get at a > hardware store, nothing special. > > toby > ----- Original Message ----- From: "tim echols" > To: > Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 1:27 PM > Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers > > > how long did you let the epoxy dry? is it a regular epoxy or boat epoxy? > > > time > > --- On Sun, 4/3/11, Toby Graves wrote: > >> From: Toby Graves >> Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Date: Sunday, April 3, 2011, 2:23 PM >> Interesting thing I'm seeing: I >> get the fretless fingerboard to the point it's really >> smooth, but once tension is applied and there's some relief >> on the neck the epoxy bulges up a little and you feel the >> fret lines. >> >> toby >> >> >> On Apr 3, 2011, at 10:44 AM, van Sinn wrote: >> >> > tim echols wrote: >> >> we never had any problem with the epoxy or super >> glue not sticking to the fingerboard. i play bass, so >> i have no choice but to finish my neck or the monstrous >> roundwounds would eat the neck to grooves. i have a 5string >> that i picked up for cheap in a consignment shop because >> someone had taken the frets out (and did a great job, better >> than the old fender jazz i refinished) but had not filled in >> the slots or finished the neck. i am having to stop >> myself from playing because it is marking up the neck >> considerably, and i do not play with a much vibrato that >> would dig in. but i did find this: >> >> >> http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/sevenstring-guitars/138328-ngmd-fretless-content.html >> >> >> seems like it describes a step-by-step vespa-based >> finishing. hope it helps. >> >> time >> > >> > >> > Yup, I was going to refer this thread, but missed >> among my saved list over there. >> > >> > >> >> --- On Sat, 4/2/11, van Sinn >> wrote: >> >>> From: van Sinn >> >>> Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers >> >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >>> Date: Saturday, April 2, 2011, 4:34 PM >> >>> An even better approach may be gluing >> >>> a thin layer of trespa to the board; I've >> heard some say >> >>> it's the best material, superceeding ebony and >> epoxy >> >>> coatings. >> >>> >> >>> Trespa is made of layers of a cardboard-like >> material, >> >>> bonded with heat/pressure into a very hard >> material. It can be processed/sanded. >> >>> Only the phenylic filled, pressure >> treated/compressed wood >> >>> used by Zon basses should be better. >> >>> >> >>> I haven't tried it myself, but have an urge, >> so some sunny >> >>> day.. ;) >> >>> >> >>> BTW, if having problems gluing on (still oil >> filled) >> >>> fretboards, try contacting Gorilla Glue; I've >> heard they >> >>> have a product which should bond well to oily >> surfaces. >> >>> >> >>> /van >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Toby Graves wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> The epoxy didn't seem to want to stick to >> the surface >> >>> >> >>> of the fretboard when I've tried >> it. I've only >> >>> filled in slots with it. >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> toby >> >>>> On Apr 1, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Kevin >> Cheli-Colando >> >>> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>>> Hello again, >> >>>>> >> >>>>> So I've pulled the frets on my guitar >> and filled >> >>> >> >>> in the frets with >> >>> >> >>>>> epoxy. As soon as it dries I'll >> be sanding >> >>> >> >>> them down and lowering the >> >>> >> >>>>> nut. My question to all you >> DIYers who may >> >>> >> >>> have done this yourself, >> >>> >> >>>>> did you leave the fretboard as is >> after you sanded >> >>> >> >>> the frets down >> >>> >> >>>>> again or did you cover the neck in >> epoxy and >> >>> >> >>> smooth that down? I've >> >>> >> >>>>> seen it both ways and I thought I'd >> get opinions >> >>> >> >>> from this august body >> >>> >> >>>>> of experimenters. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Thanks, >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Kevin >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -- Till now you seriously considered >> yourself to >> >>> >> >>> be the body and to have a >> >>> >> >>>>> form. That is the primal ignorance >> which is the >> >>> >> >>> root cause of all trouble. >> >>> >> >>>>> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org >> >>>>> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- rgds, >> >>> van Sinn -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 4 09:52:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A950418349D; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 09:52:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2kyp8f479Aj688z5ZxiPPbLbyU6025pjzkJYNTTYYLM=; b=PEuGql2sf/v9mEx45XUk83VmaivZwB/MsNd9AHyPFNgK7ts35z8ZcE/92nDDqkr+YB hHBDlkpqNmLpDlnuNm66K9aCAX6uQf5xedzbxw009IHshl2MGPNO2Wo9vlXDHdM+HXLo c4Mp6L7hQl7FO0nyA4ebvLnAOi6jewHymdUFc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rG9h0Pa6Fi8FmW9yo9iH5JPc7ai0BUyAdiqjlcv+HK53XOP2WuAlm1BuzXrU6PVETb s/eHt0eALxZdW1MdGMLt9q0Y9G9HyWC07wjTyCSRl6xGaRaWDz1axo1vTxyl6zJES099 uMBQA/jXAFEpvbm39ZjMtVnCsHcMxxPj13omk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D949E2E.7040902@googlemail.com> <910180C7-607F-43F2-A201-622B74225CB6@mac.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8B45D@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 11:52:22 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A while back..... From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108808 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 09:52:24 +0000 (UTC) yes i have though no answer... On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> this is the one i meant and is actually not a bad looking guitar >> wow this is develoed by Markus Reuter? the website doesnt specify what >> they cost,anybody know more info? > > Bro! > The U8's are developed by Markus, see http://www.touchguitars.com/ > for all the info. Regarding prices, I would suggest to contact him > directly via the contact form on the website. > > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 4 10:10:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 86BA4183453; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 10:10:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UH/ALBQrJf6XTgVoqHwPdb+x33jY+9/SNtbceAV4ej0=; b=gFUW7LjNgX5wGqC7dTBbVI6nJOezKCP1kDi7FUNQNfJMyQrhuvLP/smgQ8YcZF5eKT rQNd6czd60bsLgHjRtRo81Tp1oZh08U4YxkGHxEXKSIGbg7usC3mupDbZQpp6O+0inoi N2NE4PtpDqMDVkJ/ISMVW0MEM3k6iErE2K92E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jIxgsmVhA0Eu7qlM1pEGYuN4o0aPYekyZPWt/5z/K5uTBOBsOLAejp6YySp9SSbef+ FbErRapxlkhmLqDWo1VRtKoyNIuxKPbJsCsQUSq6FJUNxIe4QuuQ3f3KwoDR6S2kaLJ5 9cKJO3Kpkb2c4dnmr6gie3d9YfIeMUJpdrMKw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@gmail.com Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 11:10:32 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: EMMRUC8fNvi5FYIvhkP9yKeVbPo Message-ID: Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6ln_Loopfest_2011?= From: Os To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108809 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 10:10:33 +0000 (UTC) Hi, a big thanks to all the performers at the K=F6ln Loopfest on Saturday for a fantastic show, and especially to Michael Peters for organising it. I don't think it could've gone any more smoothly. All my photos are here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/monkeysorama/sets/72157626300079297/ (thanks to Georgina Brett for taking over the camera while I was performing= !) and most of the same photos are on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=3D387583&id=3D563044571&l=3D281c38e2a= a Please tag anyone you know - I won't have time to, nor am I friends (in the Facebook sense) with everyone photographed. Video to follow. cheers, os. --=20 os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 4 10:26:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E5A9218349C; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 10:26:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=TrrRzdu43+LiC7o9Ub/ZMnEAzA13WT5ElvPKPzek2E0=; b=fn69Bfg6/Qv5lE/fmlHEdKbDyLOK24pkiRPjcsvT6Fhi6Zjx5wORQ3NK7t3XK1214E JZ5oOkpPAeJ53BnnIHnRpUKGAvySxiSLNUC3OtVEa/c/sFhLtvAccSF9jc02GtWoelor Az0FhdL5/K88XLxV6HNSmnQsMeIzWIth3pUfI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=HwzyDgsrIzoaF3eyU9AaYsrHbfnp0hKzaA9TOu3w3FkfM2oHvwvnyrJFUwTVHHsiFM gPgizkuLk7llPOZW+0boT1F5B991/Q4kK4YAjQunYhF6Uz6Ab67zGA9xXY6BIJZ6CJ4U utNN7h1OqynxiQM14NDsLrxSiLcmz2uEF1XO0= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: FCB1010 replacement switch From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: <4D94E4E9.9050104@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 06:26:00 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4D949E2E.7040902@googlemail.com> <910180C7-607F-43F2-A201-622B74225CB6@mac.com> <4D94DD36.8070106@tiscali.co.uk> <28B0FBE7-610D-4641-88C8-BBFE5D3F92F5@gmail.com> <4D94E4E9.9050104@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108810 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 10:26:05 +0000 (UTC) They don't ship to the USA :( At least I know what the tactile switch = looks like and it's dimensions. I'll see if I can find something similar = at Digi-key, Newmark, or Mouser. -Todd On Mar 31, 2011, at 4:32 PM, andy butler wrote: > If they didn't have one of those annoying sites that don't > let you link to products I'd give you the exact page. >=20 > http://pms-electronics.com/shop1/index.php >=20 > Select English >=20 > Search for article no. >=20 > 887-43811-03768 >=20 > This will cover switches 1-10 , Up & Down >=20 > They're good at responding to email. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 4 15:58:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D09818349D; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 15:58:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:Content-Type:Subject:Date:Message-Id:To:Mime-Version:X-Mailer; b=nYfIj6BA2PnROuT6mFXnXPJFqbxe3ts/p0ONQpD1HVDP8D02JsLifCTUjYJls6hq044ByJuAWGfNAErRSVK0CxXC6yMTi6CpXaae2EZgdSraF13/gDbd7yvUtQpNgbYKEwrb70bYfpc3OoWhhLaWL6wP5qpcKiU4YXNUTDqJvGI= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1301932713; bh=UJFphLhG1RlyHKgRdqwqj+uqP+7yt0VthtVwMNmkBq8=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:Content-Type:Subject:Date:Message-Id:To:Mime-Version:X-Mailer; b=xABfU8cApeecrXMRhmMYhNwxOzPhYsPyS+SaOm+8pemxYAZxk8EqcRW/19bTsNIrXoIKY/J2vjYnpsk7B9Z7P0+JjuPLZupo1SZnN6A3HltvPk4VBHFLjq9ttzOCS7V/CTBuZtqdYiIHtyUWWuAeVXGYP9+A+MhDkGo7e1qhvvs= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: TNs2LPQVM1k53.m9lztb2PqikFp3vZ3xfUtXdfxbpEx7h.g v4Q3gInMU5mmojd5afSaXa2wFwYeUAytdcZ9AFdXhTpwgHpjpB3nE1YetCMX chljJGVh2YY7O6RFVj8qVRovyF5uWYmI7HCHgjUCaeg0joGhCQPXvLae.zCK LN9h4mxrPHtUY_U7sxC3jVoaKLcjWforAwyv9XDgtjXgBZ6dsmpHSAfr19Ui Ekcw6XZ8J5hzO077l98NCfo3KWEgohIu5Ju09j7lI7Tts38fFO2FFX1ETO_B hpO_6aG7v_OdqCowVYKsUVSWsA1YKJnYBrheOvf2MjSNTplKz2dJZrM1J.g- - X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: Matthew Stevens Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-14--644519127 Subject: Live looping in band context(slightly OT) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 16:58:31 +0100 Message-Id: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082.1) Resent-Message-ID: <9djnFB.A.g2C.sqemNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108811 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 15:58:36 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-14--644519127 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi guys=20 This is my band project The Fierce And The Dead, the intro is an ambient = live loop that we tightened up later on :) http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/album/10x10 Matt Stevens= --Apple-Mail-14--644519127 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hi guys 

This is my band project The Fierce And The Dead, the intro is an ambient live loop that we tightened up later on :)


Matt Stevens
--Apple-Mail-14--644519127-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 4 17:06:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CAFE018349D; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 17:06:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1301936798; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=jbK4fxIBNq0DFKsuTIizq87JRoM=; b=DxtjXQuPxlXt2alDW4q1Lgz0nrnz0rJY4IEPnyx/FCXYULv5JEgDrsSY65HSw5p6 68F2w7TH8L0k/GZKhx1IHtgCSpG1UMpB2CIop2Rt+iriXzVP8yyqw2UYeb43HIX2; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=tkJh+wHWiyWv5V+BV5viaD3nUCQdnJmsLqRzJcS7dYA= c=1 sm=0 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ZqYkCKjCxslzb4T0FnMCig==:17 a=W1snQW5pH4WWwLnzVnAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=ZqYkCKjCxslzb4T0FnMCig==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=ejyuhas@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) From: "ejyuhas" Message-ID: <35.7C.15540.D9AF99D4@smtp02.embarq.synacor.com> To: In-Reply-To: <4D98DEF8.5050404@post.cybercity.dk> Subject: RE: OT Fretless makers Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 13:06:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: Acvy6Eh1YFg1k87mQSqPsJsr1dTiEAAATZ0w X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.1.7600.16543 Resent-Message-ID: <9BR--D.A.XKE.eqfmNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108812 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 17:06:39 +0000 (UTC) Anyone using West System 123 marine epoxy? I'm told this should be among the best epoxies for such uses.. /van I'll vouch for any of the West Systems "long cure" epoxies. I used them a long time ago for high-powered model rocketry and they held wood fins onto cardboard/fiberglass tube frames under heavy pressures of thrusting by some big motors. The stuff is indestructible! And, if you add any of the 400 Series filler beads to it, it becomes sandable, so you can get a decent smooth finish on the fretboard surface. Not sure about polishing that surface, but perhaps the website or aomeone there could answer that for you. My $.02... Edward From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 4 17:07:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C3D3318349F; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 17:07:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1301936866; bh=LK21plobossT14F7KBi7TpHmvOtmHUB1o7yP521vuj0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wt9rlHN7XMgaCXVDhRkXmBBqxuAsO5YR1qH0hOxwdp1q6hzNvjn47AiWE+EP8iZxHAPdeWbzC8s9u886HTTCLVRgf5TjH7BO5Wb6Vx8nI4/GA/eKoqdJ8x0/xWJg4GRcapOgg4MylwtGrfJwuKoepLppT/4WpXYikD+1Hh9uBbg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xh51bA4RxGO5GeNgZ76mAGgupmRJ23fP1r2NmedO9kkNDSOHO3f8k1QIb9VYrsDi9UrOOvSUHs9C3J/jaxF+dGk2wrHR6gb77orBrMUkXo5omOUGKcWWTsxqoS+dd+1s88qxRxt3rteZfrdcBjphkZ/Pqgprs4gccBy7qH3ZBcQ=; Message-ID: <43685.63254.qm@web120719.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 34Xy.KsVM1nEhk7kFhorCwIvwJiyOLLwS28SYId5hp8R0gx cBl0cHX7v1TupqZaeQ4cpSXhGiE6X9rxMwTmEEeKDepMtKlXH2kHPq1vRyI4 RkqjABWA7ifhMNheg48_vvzLP6aZ.k.F63SvdBxNNeLocpUk5Du8_yL.t3pY ew.VUEyWl03HHDhE3qPIJvb_Q5Zz.2BSlUsbBxcqVUurt0vL66PQqEggD78o bOwSBRkPKe00.XMZwLIR_yh8g3zW4UUESY5bC5RlCd8HnLeXQJpZnGOKPD3f 7wpV5GRMr7vdwrtlKesg4KWqaNThR8KU88xmiPonrne.5SONgehI7Z8VI2sz hFsiIG9190gQmbMO9JsnvILtkkf4UJFxI7Giccx0cY82AAhDLUoiaOkNHAA- - X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 References: Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 10:07:45 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Live looping in band context(slightly OT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-41590232-1301936865=:63254" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108813 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 17:07:48 +0000 (UTC) --0-41590232-1301936865=:63254 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii pretty kool Antony ________________________________ From: Matthew Stevens To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Mon, April 4, 2011 5:58:31 PM Subject: Live looping in band context(slightly OT) Hi guys This is my band project The Fierce And The Dead, the intro is an ambient live loop that we tightened up later on :) http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/album/10x10 Matt Stevens --0-41590232-1301936865=:63254 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
pretty kool

Antony

From: Matthew Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Mon, April 4, 2011 5:58:31 PM
Subject: Live looping in band context(slightly OT)

Hi guys 

This is my band project The Fierce And The Dead, the intro is an ambient live loop that we tightened up later on :)


Matt Stevens

--0-41590232-1301936865=:63254-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 4 18:28:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C01DD18349C; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 18:27:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 489 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 18:27:59 UTC Reply-To: From: "RICK AZIM" To: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: FCB1010 replacement switch Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 11:19:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcvysrXl1l8IvFauSea3FTFxwaqB5QAQg4Ow X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.1.7600.16543 Message-ID: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108814 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 18:27:59 +0000 (UTC) No go-they want too much info -----Original Message----- From: Todd Matthews [mailto:gtmatthews@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 3:26 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: FCB1010 replacement switch They don't ship to the USA :( At least I know what the tactile switch looks like and it's dimensions. I'll see if I can find something similar at Digi-key, Newmark, or Mouser. -Todd On Mar 31, 2011, at 4:32 PM, andy butler wrote: > If they didn't have one of those annoying sites that don't let you > link to products I'd give you the exact page. > > http://pms-electronics.com/shop1/index.php > > Select English > > Search for article no. > > 887-43811-03768 > > This will cover switches 1-10 , Up & Down > > They're good at responding to email. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 4 19:17:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8561018349D; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 19:17:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ds+dnQp40TYu30+GjbD+eULkofHZxzPjBNq18x34FX4=; b=N8V5bju8dK3n1AVfx8o4pmA536ZDu4Ckv2WSO9Js3tF2XXQTACt3rDz27N7hqMN1vg jFudKgx4DqlDWv0XnT1xQWPcCAOkGgCld0O4t3JXBxRqRhGtO7IhSNs5ddEMcGFazzP5 cp2CaPxBESQq51gr9lig4c38A/AQNnsSnT3CI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=s1qaQDPMbn38lMJrnKpcTqT2MWs4jsXAV2vrdcpQKR2Wa+6UnEkfoLcX0kvhC4boiq HhT5RLoUfBTblUwVYB+guI0I55kB+U9+BI1kPJ3qigOdqswa/zkBpuZ/o+Wgb8ij5GC1 63ohQe2e3oyLafWoNxFu7kLYIAQRKnB2wkt7Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D98B1FB.7090008@post.cybercity.dk> References: <750603.65041.qm@web120715.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4D98B1FB.7090008@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 15:17:40 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers From: Jeffrey Collins To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636416ddfff9d9304a01c9cf3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108815 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 19:17:41 +0000 (UTC) --001636416ddfff9d9304a01c9cf3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Just wanted to give a big Thanks to Tim. For giving me so many ideas of what to do with this Fender Squire II that I've had without a fretboard for over a decade. Even though it's got a trem on it right now. I'm planning on replacing the trem with a nice new tailpiece. Technology for retrofitting guitars these days is WAY better than 1997. ;-) Cheers, Jeffrey Collins On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 1:44 PM, van Sinn wrote: > tim echols wrote: > >> we never had any problem with the epoxy or super glue not sticking to the >> fingerboard. i play bass, so i have no choice but to finish my neck or the >> monstrous roundwounds would eat the neck to grooves. i have a 5string that i >> picked up for cheap in a consignment shop because someone had taken the >> frets out (and did a great job, better than the old fender jazz i >> refinished) but had not filled in the slots or finished the neck. i am >> having to stop myself from playing because it is marking up the neck >> considerably, and i do not play with a much vibrato that would dig in. but i >> did find this: >> >> >> http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/sevenstring-guitars/138328-ngmd-fretless-content.html >> >> seems like it describes a step-by-step vespa-based finishing. hope it >> helps. >> >> time >> > > > Yup, I was going to refer this thread, but missed among my saved list over > there. > > > > --- On Sat, 4/2/11, van Sinn wrote: >> >> >> From: van Sinn >>> Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> Date: Saturday, April 2, 2011, 4:34 PM >>> An even better approach may be gluing >>> a thin layer of trespa to the board; I've heard some say >>> it's the best material, superceeding ebony and epoxy >>> coatings. >>> >>> Trespa is made of layers of a cardboard-like material, >>> bonded with heat/pressure into a very hard material. It can be >>> processed/sanded. >>> Only the phenylic filled, pressure treated/compressed wood >>> used by Zon basses should be better. >>> >>> I haven't tried it myself, but have an urge, so some sunny >>> day.. ;) >>> >>> BTW, if having problems gluing on (still oil filled) >>> fretboards, try contacting Gorilla Glue; I've heard they >>> have a product which should bond well to oily surfaces. >>> >>> /van >>> >>> >>> Toby Graves wrote: >>> >>> The epoxy didn't seem to want to stick to the surface >>>> >>> >>> of the fretboard when I've tried it. I've only >>> filled in slots with it. >>> >>> >>>> toby >>>> On Apr 1, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando >>>> >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello again, >>>>> >>>>> So I've pulled the frets on my guitar and filled >>>>> >>>> >>> in the frets with >>> >>> epoxy. As soon as it dries I'll be sanding >>>>> >>>> >>> them down and lowering the >>> >>> nut. My question to all you DIYers who may >>>>> >>>> >>> have done this yourself, >>> >>> did you leave the fretboard as is after you sanded >>>>> >>>> >>> the frets down >>> >>> again or did you cover the neck in epoxy and >>>>> >>>> >>> smooth that down? I've >>> >>> seen it both ways and I thought I'd get opinions >>>>> >>>> >>> from this august body >>> >>> of experimenters. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Kevin >>>>> >>>>> -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to >>>>> >>>> >>> be the body and to have a >>> >>> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the >>>>> >>>> >>> root cause of all trouble. >>> >>> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >>>>> >>>>> Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org >>>>> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- rgds, >>> van Sinn >>> >> > > -- > rgds, > van Sinn > > --001636416ddfff9d9304a01c9cf3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just wanted to give a big Thanks to Tim. For giving me so many ideas of wha= t to do with this Fender Squire II that I've had without a fretboard fo= r over a decade. Even though it's got a trem on it right now. I'm p= lanning on replacing the trem with a nice new tailpiece. Technology for ret= rofitting guitars these days is WAY better than 1997. ;-)

Cheers,
Jeffrey Collins

On Sun, Ap= r 3, 2011 at 1:44 PM, van Sinn <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border= -left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
tim echols wrote:
we never had any problem with the epoxy or super glue not sticking to the f= ingerboard. =A0i play bass, so i have no choice but to finish my neck or th= e monstrous roundwounds would eat the neck to grooves. i have a 5string tha= t i picked up for cheap in a consignment shop because someone had taken the= frets out (and did a great job, better than the old fender jazz i refinish= ed) but had not filled in the slots or finished the neck. =A0i am having to= stop myself from playing because it is marking up the neck considerably, a= nd i do not play with a much vibrato that would dig in. but i did find this= :

http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/= sevenstring-guitars/138328-ngmd-fretless-content.html

seems like it describes a step-by-step vespa-based finishing. =A0hope it he= lps.

time


Yup, I was going to refer this thread, but missed among my saved list over = there.



--- On Sat, 4/2/11, van Sinn <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk> wrote:


From: van Sinn <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk>
Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Saturday, April 2, 2011, 4:34 PM
An even better approach may be gluing
a thin layer of trespa to the board; I've heard some say
it's the best material, superceeding ebony and epoxy
coatings.

Trespa is made of layers of a cardboard-like material,
bonded with heat/pressure into a very hard material. It can be processed/sa= nded.
Only the phenylic filled, pressure treated/compressed wood
used by Zon basses should be better.

I haven't tried it myself, but have an urge, so some sunny
day.. ;)

BTW, if having problems gluing on (still oil filled)
fretboards, try contacting Gorilla Glue; I've heard they
have a product which should bond well to oily surfaces.

/van


Toby Graves wrote:

The epoxy didn't seem to want to stick to the surface

of the =A0fretboard when I've tried it. =A0I've only
filled in slots with it.


toby
On Apr 1, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando

wrote:

Hello again,

So I've pulled the frets on my guitar and filled

in the frets with

epoxy. =A0As soon as it dries I'll be sanding

them down and lowering the

nut. =A0My question to all you DIYers who may

have done this yourself,

did you leave the fretboard as is after you sanded

the frets down

again or did you cover the neck in epoxy and

smooth that down? =A0I've

seen it both ways and I thought I'd get opinions

from this august body

of experimenters.

Thanks,

Kevin

-- Till now you seriously considered yourself to

be the body and to =A0have a

form. That is the primal ignorance which is the

root cause of all =A0trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision: =A0http://www.minds-eye.org
Video = http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos


-- rgds,
van Sinn


--
rgds,
van Sinn


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He's on tour, but check your private mail ;-) -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 4 22:26:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A468918349D; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 22:26:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UIuxfmmiZot+inKZAMRR0thQ3qm177duAiveVkG9xTg=; b=kJuMGWdi5n0SHz/dS2An8OAb/4fxg/Oxwvp5g/2WGm2hrHpdYKbGgTSLbXOsADHZd2 YNXgNhFl+St0rCTdbDSeG+G7OlPdChNC6fLqsMAl3nmEzjUkthAgsUugkH74eROdZyAy LB1Za3dbWfmP2PKPdb3CQnae1ZAJUkN7WlAlY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pqNcx+JSs/2cpCoM8gf3F4H34AGkOWZmWp+B1mDR0OiOwUKCbrvHSJfH3NOKlQHJZg Qqrttm4Mk8j/dt7JDpZYkxNb6XbwXl927d1Uv1w+1C37/zrWeWChdM7fSrvUkvRa6K8Y H6xWPpTgDpI8HP/ud4hG7n+mqgHP6D1h6EUyY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 00:26:56 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: max/msp experts - midi clock smoother? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108817 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 22:26:58 +0000 (UTC) i reinstalled Mobius and now is fine,god knows what went sour... On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > > Is the Ableton transport running? =A0Mobius will not receive any beat not= ifications unless the Ableton transport is running and counting off beats. > > On Apr 3, 2011, at 2:48 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > >> Jeff a funny thing happens as well with mobius: >> sometimes when i sync Mobius to ableton and choose host bar and press >> record the display just reads syncronize but does nothing,do you know >> what is happening? >> thanx >> Luis >> > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 4 22:30:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A5F718349D; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 22:30:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=oYjKlxWhVPrqiQibd9RBxyq/F80dDaz4SQLipmooYUk=; b=XmliD90eObjGoVeGhiKIxhG6ZWgwc1rL5AZfPRuCFYnaxNr65C9HDL9xEv1d4fqSJa YpzOBEk8U8Fokp7aWf+Hxw5RfBwcSMP2A89M0G8onDDUAE1g1sYhz/M/wCCLHYX+BjZD 1PjHl3obIDGoXStrkqDSThVivSL4njH7H6xdk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=XlimF1fmfIIr1feFqRIdtog946TBMWM2GiJuRCG0I61P9EXJRdAfrrt88X6v0Fz7cJ h5ZgJz7OlP+YxCo2lhW7s5cdX0/LFRQ9Q+ewfXignV5LiIaciWnqHi60uYHFjETQzaAo 5wvZk6nUxeicdj9zZ5B32JJchE7rvvV8PP0FQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 16:30:50 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: FS: Korg Wavedrum From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers_Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307c9e24d2023504a01f4f97 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108818 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 22:30:51 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307c9e24d2023504a01f4f97 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Selling my Korg Wavedrum on ebay for anyone interested. Only shipping to United States. Thanks for looking. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140530778664&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_500wt_1156 --20cf307c9e24d2023504a01f4f97 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Selling my Korg Wavedrum on ebay for anyone interested. =A0Only shipping to= United States. Thanks for looking.

--20cf307c9e24d2023504a01f4f97-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 5 01:19:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 59DC618349D; Tue, 5 Apr 2011 01:19:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <92965D5D-B9D9-4E13-8806-0D558DC9FC60@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--610896164 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: new loop strategy Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 18:18:54 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108819 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 01:19:02 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--610896164 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For the last few months I have been trying to get more comfortable with creating ABC (and sometimes D) song forms, with the LP-1 running in version 1.37, and recently discovered that i could not only further explore the scripts for running tracks end to end that create these more conventional song forms, but the same could be done with groups of tracks so that i could for instance, create a track or tracks of rhythmic beat box style loops that would continued to play as I switched between my A B C (and sometimes D) sections. The only issue with all of this non- automated track and group tracks creation is it takes time to develop ( this one is almost 10 minutes), which has been what I've been working on, the flow to create a spontaneous song form from scratch. I created 4 presets on my Gordius LG that toggle between tracks 1,2,3, and 4, and i also created 4 presets that select groups 1,2,3 and 4, with each group including the afore mentioned individual tracks + tracks 5 thru 8 which is where I record my rhythm tracks or melody ideas that I want to continue to play as I change sections. The original scripts were perfected by either Steve Lawson or Bob himself, i can't recall but here they are along with instructions on how to use them as well as my new group variations. A little something to those of you still using an Lp-1. And though it drags at times, has a few pitch problems and the dreaded midi foot controller crickets, this spontaneous improv on the acoustic lap steel shows me creating 4 tracks (ABCD sections) and a couple of beat box tracks. For the gear heads I'm sending a Duncan Mag mic sound hole pickup in to a Keeley compressor and an Xotic ep-1 to a splitter box with one side going to an ethos preamp, an eventide timefactor, a tc nova reverb running both channels of a Dtar solstice preamp and my Looperlative. The other side is sent to my normal gig pedal board with the M-9 set for volume swell echo feeding a Princeton Reverb and a vox AC 10. Both sides are running in to a MOTU 2408 feeding KRK 8 inch monitors. I really like the way the notes bloom if i hold them courtesy of the M-9's swell delay , and the timefactor handles hold and feedback features better than any delay I've owned. I wasn't using any overdrive but the mag mic is excellent at handling it as long as you don't turn up the mic part:-). The Zoom Q3 was recording it, warts and all. here is the Youtube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE6eydQyHGg Enjoy Bill and the looperlative scripts: You will need to initiate the first loop (track 1) from a standard record/overdub, or sync record / overdub preset . I always use sync record/ overdub and play/stop now , for what its worth. I suggest having both those presets in addition to the following long script presets available on a bank of presets. here are the other long script presets you will need: a preset with the following commands: select track 1, cue track , except track, stop, select track 1 a preset with the following commands: select track 2, cue track, except track, stop, select track 2 a preset with the following commands: select track 3, cue track, except track, stop, select track 3 a preset with the following commands: select track 4, cue track, except track, stop, select track 4 this would give you the ability to create 4 part song forms that you could toggle between once you have each section created. Here is how you build your track. select track one and use sync record/ over dub to create a track ( the verse section of a tune for example) You have to end recording the first track (loop) as you would normally, by hitting either a play/stop preset or a record preset again. You begin recording the next section by hitting the select track 2 long script preset, which you can do before track 1 completes its cycle, as soon as track one ends recording will begin on track 2, so at this point you have to be careful of your timing coming in to the track. To end the track, you can either press sync record again or play stop or the preset with the script for track 1 which will return you to that track. repeat the procedure to record the other tracks. after all are created then you can simply toggle between them by hitting the long script presets for each track. No bear in mind I'm doing groove oriented stuff but these scripts work just as well for ambient stuff as well. I think you will need version1.37 for this to work. These long script track presets also work for group select commands as well but not to initiate a recording function, only to toggle between groups. I use these scripts when I want to have a beat box track going while I switch between other tracks, in this case my group 1 will include track 1 as well as track 8 which I use as my beat box track. group 2 will use track 2 and track 8, group 3 is track 3 and 8, etc.... the long script for group selects are the same as above substituting group for track. example: group 1 cue track except track stop group 1 --Apple-Mail-1--610896164 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   For the last few = months I have been trying to get more comfortable with creating ABC (and = sometimes D) song forms, with the LP-1 running in version 1.37, =  and recently discovered that i could not only further explore the = scripts for running tracks end to end that create these  more = conventional song forms, but the same could be done with groups of = tracks so that i could for instance, create a track or tracks of = rhythmic beat box style loops that would continued to play as I switched = between my A B C (and sometimes D) sections. The only issue with all of = this non- automated track and group tracks  creation is it takes = time to develop ( this one is almost 10 minutes), which has been what = I've been working on, the flow to create a spontaneous song form from = scratch. I created 4 presets on my Gordius LG that toggle between =  tracks 1,2,3, and 4, and i also created 4 presets that select = groups 1,2,3 and 4, with each group including the afore mentioned = individual tracks + tracks 5 thru 8 which is where I record my rhythm = tracks or melody ideas that I want to continue to play as I change = sections. The original scripts were perfected by either Steve Lawson or = Bob himself, i can't recall but here they are along with instructions on = how to use them as well as my new group variations. A little something =  to those of you still using an Lp-1. And though it drags at times, = has a few pitch problems and the dreaded midi foot controller crickets, = this spontaneous improv on the acoustic lap steel shows me creating 4 = tracks (ABCD sections) and a couple of beat box tracks. For the gear = heads I'm sending a Duncan Mag mic sound hole pickup in to a Keeley = compressor and an Xotic ep-1 to a splitter box with one side going to an = ethos preamp,  an eventide timefactor, a tc nova reverb running = both channels  of a Dtar solstice preamp and my Looperlative. The = other side is sent to my normal gig pedal board  with  the =  M-9 set for volume swell echo feeding a Princeton Reverb and a vox = AC 10. Both sides are running in to a MOTU 2408 feeding KRK 8 inch =  monitors.  I really like the way the notes bloom if i hold = them courtesy of the M-9's swell delay , and the timefactor handles =  hold and feedback features better than any delay I've owned. I = wasn't using any overdrive  but the mag mic is excellent at = handling it as long as you don't turn up the mic part:-). The Zoom = Q3 was recording it,  warts and all. 
here is the Youtube = link:
 Enjoy
 Bill =  

 and the  looperlative = scripts:

You will need to initiate the first = loop (track 1) from a standard record/overdub, or sync record / overdub = preset . I always use sync record/ overdub and play/stop now , for what = its worth. I suggest having both those presets in addition to the = following long script presets available on a bank of presets.  here = are the other long script presets you will need:
a preset with the = following commands:
select track 1, cue track , except track, stop, = select track 1
a preset with the following commands:
select track = 2, cue track, except track, stop, select track 2
a preset with the = following commands:
select track 3, cue track, except track, stop, = select track 3
a preset with the following commands:
select track = 4, cue track, except track, stop, select track 4
this would give you = the ability to create 4 part song forms that you could toggle between = once you have each section created.
 Here is how you = build your track. select track one and use sync record/ over dub to = create a track ( the verse section of a tune for example) You have to = end recording the first track (loop) as you would normally, by hitting = either a play/stop preset or a record preset again.  You   = begin recording the next section by hitting the select track 2 =  long script preset, which you can do before track 1 completes its = cycle,  as soon as track one ends recording will begin on track 2, = so at this point you have to be careful of your timing coming in to the = track. To end the track,  you can either press sync record again or = play stop or the preset with the script for track 1 which will return = you to that track.  repeat the procedure to record the other = tracks. after all are created then you can simply toggle between them by = hitting the long script presets for each track. No bear in mind I'm = doing groove oriented stuff but these scripts work just as well for = ambient stuff as well.
I think you will need version1.37 for this to = work.

 These long script track presets also work for group = select commands as well but not to initiate a recording function, only = to toggle between groups. I use these scripts when I want to have a beat = box track going while I switch between other tracks, in this case my = group 1 will include track 1 as well as track 8 which I use as my beat = box track. group 2 will use track 2 and track 8,  group 3 is track = 3 and 8, etc....
the long script for group selects are the same as = above substituting group for track.
example:
group 1 cue track = except track stop group 1
= --Apple-Mail-1--610896164-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 5 04:49:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92FFE183486; Tue, 5 Apr 2011 04:49:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+selXDIdlu1uZgsKwHnhphpPhuubZpDoiKtxDRFPYgg=; b=oPnsCHkebKhOUamXSs0KWqxq8fM0/J0uNz0hkv+O6EXbi63fjFMLYSqO0i/C/4UNDP ujIJKky0CzF4FDh+voTlolXREtnOrDDkLoynSHe1gmajQFpMGK5d8e5vogT67PgXrcHc 9rjsxaLJK8zx20nawNBoiS/TdIJv5FOaZFflk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=DRypTnUjEaRQTeoehFvHdqXbUYCSqX7xT6VF66c+vYo2vysa1rADJE71i+wV0HHyW7 2ZTaOfbD8K1WLc/nlyKtvVjFVB8Q8V9MmEyXJkCTNsDt+dqX1eW1maciaGQxAou6gLOp JnrN0Z3JczpnjL5foyPhKXpK8oDTE8Fj8IpNo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <92965D5D-B9D9-4E13-8806-0D558DC9FC60@baymoon.com> References: <92965D5D-B9D9-4E13-8806-0D558DC9FC60@baymoon.com> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 21:49:33 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: new loop strategy From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108820 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 04:49:35 +0000 (UTC) Wow, beautiful Bill. -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 5 06:19:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 896F118349D; Tue, 5 Apr 2011 06:19:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "'Loopers Delight'" References: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE:_K=F6ln_Loopfest_2011?= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 08:19:54 +0200 Message-ID: <82FD854458F540B88BFCB06D7DE18C30@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01CBF36A.3E83A950" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Acvy/P8PxkXSMiRNRqy1ldCpdt7OzwAW9NKw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108821 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 06:19:58 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01CBF36A.3E83A950 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit great photos Os!! Here's a nice 5 minute feature (broadcast yesterday) from German radio station WDR3 about the loopfest, containing some short interviews (all in German) and music snippets: http://www.veloopity.de/michaelpeters/interview/loopfestcologne2011_wdr3_tuu lasimon.mp3 WDR3 is a large radio station focused on culture, jazz, classical music. I'm sure this was heard by quite a lot of people interested in music who had never heard of livelooping. Yay! -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01CBF36A.3E83A950 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

great photos Os!!

Here's a = nice 5 minute=20 feature (broadcast yesterday) from German radio station WDR3 about = the=20 loopfest, containing some short interviews (all in German) and music=20 snippets:
http://www.veloopity.de/michaelpeters/interview/loopfestcolo= gne2011_wdr3_tuulasimon.mp3

WDR3 is a large radio station focused on = culture,=20 jazz, classical music. I'm sure this was heard by quite a lot of people=20 interested in music who had never heard of livelooping. Yay!

-Michael

------=_NextPart_000_0018_01CBF36A.3E83A950-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 5 08:49:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D3C218349D; Tue, 5 Apr 2011 08:49:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Tue, 05 Apr 2011 08:49:18 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2011 10:42:36 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <4D7CA3ED.1080309@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <20110405084236.27060@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4D7CA3ED.1080309@googlemail.com> Subject: Re: Adrain Belew uses Mobius looper wow!! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+uPopQC4Outhf6eGYB/KoYUTtdig0WRGQw+B7Bhe eY793SGXM35dGt/GRXIB8vA+9SM2uyWGWqiQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: nbzvfqY/ODB6XcN6iGVMVsA9Ji9SWhLv Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108822 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 08:49:19 +0000 (UTC) I'm really glad to see that Mobius sees some recognition. Congrats, Jeff! :-) Buzap -- NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren und surfen! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 5 09:23:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A774C18349D; Tue, 5 Apr 2011 09:23:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=iXWnDIO7cHklh7UC+EWReoCHFPI+ZS0DqE8ZI6GODrU=; b=v+iGzHQfklX0e0GFcsKTBlpEd74V5+xarz4eVXU6dbQMi2Wf60+ycX2t+6XrJeFcJk CFRk9V2QYqpYY8VlAHbk7D8jyIba1BwtYvvobTwB4rgYtwNFF321/9NFNsVl0q4Yo8Df rf46Oq7TFB5ZzXrXoW1boq+zyddkFydSp67+k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=NTTe+Yo/uSn3/c3QkgNNx6t8ka49eD/NFGWvB9b5BUAHCHlwM6rLaS65eozWU0uK/g m5yyxZVR1ipBCjar4tB0qZMoUnKQvjIHq03vP0gDiesQaUGw/FZ1qKOuKj4BdvME7eha mOOO+0P6wgQQbLCRFxduEct++eYUp4CGRSMCs= Message-ID: <4D9ADF9A.7030501@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2011 11:23:38 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; de; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new loop strategy References: <92965D5D-B9D9-4E13-8806-0D558DC9FC60@baymoon.com> In-Reply-To: <92965D5D-B9D9-4E13-8806-0D558DC9FC60@baymoon.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108823 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 09:23:38 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, haven't been active on the list for a while, and the first I stumble on is this beautiful Music...;-) Am 05.04.11 03:18, schrieb William Walker: > here is the Youtube link: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE6eydQyHGg > Enjoy Your music is so much joy... Thank you! -- Les Ondes Mémorielles--------x-- -_____-----------|-----------|-- -(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- - _|_)----|-----()-------------- ---------()----------TJ Shredder http://tjshredder.wordpress.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 5 09:47:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B03B18349D; Tue, 5 Apr 2011 09:47:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 602789051/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.182.14/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.182.14 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqACAMPkmk1V0rYO/2dsb2JhbAAMmFSWeaxPjQ+FawSQdA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,303,1299456000"; d="scan'208";a="602789051" Message-ID: <4D9AE529.2030909@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2011 10:47:21 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new loop strategy References: <92965D5D-B9D9-4E13-8806-0D558DC9FC60@baymoon.com> In-Reply-To: <92965D5D-B9D9-4E13-8806-0D558DC9FC60@baymoon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108824 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 09:47:20 +0000 (UTC) William Walker wrote: > For the last few months I have been trying to get more comfortable > with creating ABC (and sometimes D) thanks for sharing Bill > The Zoom Q3 > was recording it, warts and all. Some of the best sound and vid quality I've seen on a YouTube demo video. The Q3 is perfect for this. > here is the Youtube link: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE6eydQyHGg > Enjoy i did :-) ..and I'm going back again later > Bill > > and the looperlative scripts: > > a preset with the following commands: > select track 1, cue track , except track, stop, select track 1 etc > You > begin recording the next section by hitting the select track 2 long > script preset, which you can do before track 1 completes its cycle, as > soon as track one ends recording will begin on track 2, so at this point > you have to be careful of your timing coming in to the track. Right, so we're in grid time here. Question: now track 1 is master, will track 2 be recorded to sync with it even when track 1 is stopped? > I think you will need version1.37 for this to work. Yes, the "Except" command is not available in v1.34d. I found with v1.37 that i had problems with dropouts at the beginning of a recorded loop ( and this was generally a sign that the LP1 would end up crashing). (I suspect this may be due to my use of smaller loops to create rhythm ala EDP.) With v1.34d a different approach is needed as it needs some Groups set up specially. Group 1: tracks 234 Group 2: tracks 134 Group 3: tracks 124 Group 4: tracks 123 presets with the following commands: selectTrack(1), cueTrack , selectGroup(1), stop, selectTrack(1) selectTrack(2), cueTrack , selectGroup(2), stop, selectTrack(2) selectTrack(3), cueTrack , selectGroup(3), stop, selectTrack(3) selectTrack(4), cueTrack , selectGroup(4), stop, selectTrack(4) > I use these scripts when I want to have a beat box track going > while I switch between other tracks, in this case my group 1 will > include track 1 as well as track 8 which I use as my beat box track. the above 1.34d solution would (obviously) work with 1.37. ...and it would allow a beatbox track to be recorded on track 5 which could be master. The the Record function would still be initialised. andy butler ps. The new firmware for the Gordius LG2 will be able to do shortpress/longpress. e.g. on one switch a short press starts record, ...a longpress erases the loop That's going to really give the LP1 a boost. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 5 14:28:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 237FE18349D; Tue, 5 Apr 2011 14:28:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <92965D5D-B9D9-4E13-8806-0D558DC9FC60@baymoon.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: new loop strategy Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2011 10:28:07 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 68.162.160.242 In-Reply-To: <92965D5D-B9D9-4E13-8806-0D558DC9FC60@baymoon.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: michael klobuchar X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33490-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CDC1B4CFA0D2EB-15F8-42C78@webmail-d138.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108825 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 14:28:31 +0000 (UTC) very nice young man!.....i so very happy to see that you wern't flooded=20 out in the studio!!!!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 5 14:39:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69C8818349D; Tue, 5 Apr 2011 14:39:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_9IuRPq5LYiip87iPQKx3lA)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-04-05_06:2011-04-05,2011-04-05,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1104050087 From: Daniel Thomas Subject: Re: new loop strategy Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2011 07:39:34 -0700 In-reply-to: <92965D5D-B9D9-4E13-8806-0D558DC9FC60@baymoon.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <92965D5D-B9D9-4E13-8806-0D558DC9FC60@baymoon.com> Message-id: <6F09B997-46FA-4F8B-B41D-CA4923308A46@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <2iU8AB.A.sUH.smymNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108826 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 14:39:41 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_9IuRPq5LYiip87iPQKx3lA) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Dude is Brilliant! d On Apr 4, 2011, at 6:18 PM, William Walker wrote: > For the last few months I have been trying to get more comfortable = with creating ABC (and sometimes D) song forms, with the LP-1 running in = version 1.37, and recently discovered that i could not only further = explore the scripts for running tracks end to end that create these = more conventional song forms, but the same could be done with groups of = tracks so that i could for instance, create a track or tracks of = rhythmic beat box style loops that would continued to play as I switched = between my A B C (and sometimes D) sections. The only issue with all of = this non- automated track and group tracks creation is it takes time to = develop ( this one is almost 10 minutes), which has been what I've been = working on, the flow to create a spontaneous song form from scratch. I = created 4 presets on my Gordius LG that toggle between tracks 1,2,3, = and 4, and i also created 4 presets that select groups 1,2,3 and 4, with = each group including the afore mentioned individual tracks + tracks 5 = thru 8 which is where I record my rhythm tracks or melody ideas that I = want to continue to play as I change sections. The original scripts were = perfected by either Steve Lawson or Bob himself, i can't recall but here = they are along with instructions on how to use them as well as my new = group variations. A little something to those of you still using an = Lp-1. And though it drags at times, has a few pitch problems and the = dreaded midi foot controller crickets, this spontaneous improv on the = acoustic lap steel shows me creating 4 tracks (ABCD sections) and a = couple of beat box tracks. For the gear heads I'm sending a Duncan Mag = mic sound hole pickup in to a Keeley compressor and an Xotic ep-1 to a = splitter box with one side going to an ethos preamp, an eventide = timefactor, a tc nova reverb running both channels of a Dtar solstice = preamp and my Looperlative. The other side is sent to my normal gig = pedal board with the M-9 set for volume swell echo feeding a = Princeton Reverb and a vox AC 10. Both sides are running in to a MOTU = 2408 feeding KRK 8 inch monitors. I really like the way the notes = bloom if i hold them courtesy of the M-9's swell delay , and the = timefactor handles hold and feedback features better than any delay = I've owned. I wasn't using any overdrive but the mag mic is excellent = at handling it as long as you don't turn up the mic part:-). The Zoom Q3 = was recording it, warts and all.=20 > here is the Youtube link: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DPE6eydQyHGg > Enjoy > Bill =20 >=20 > and the looperlative scripts: >=20 > You will need to initiate the first loop (track 1) from a standard = record/overdub, or sync record / overdub preset . I always use sync = record/ overdub and play/stop now , for what its worth. I suggest having = both those presets in addition to the following long script presets = available on a bank of presets. here are the other long script presets = you will need: > a preset with the following commands: > select track 1, cue track , except track, stop, select track 1 > a preset with the following commands: > select track 2, cue track, except track, stop, select track 2 > a preset with the following commands: > select track 3, cue track, except track, stop, select track 3 > a preset with the following commands: > select track 4, cue track, except track, stop, select track 4 > this would give you the ability to create 4 part song forms that you = could toggle between once you have each section created. > Here is how you build your track. select track one and use sync = record/ over dub to create a track ( the verse section of a tune for = example) You have to end recording the first track (loop) as you would = normally, by hitting either a play/stop preset or a record preset again. = You begin recording the next section by hitting the select track 2 = long script preset, which you can do before track 1 completes its cycle, = as soon as track one ends recording will begin on track 2, so at this = point you have to be careful of your timing coming in to the track. To = end the track, you can either press sync record again or play stop or = the preset with the script for track 1 which will return you to that = track. repeat the procedure to record the other tracks. after all are = created then you can simply toggle between them by hitting the long = script presets for each track. No bear in mind I'm doing groove oriented = stuff but these scripts work just as well for ambient stuff as well. > I think you will need version1.37 for this to work. >=20 > These long script track presets also work for group select commands = as well but not to initiate a recording function, only to toggle between = groups. I use these scripts when I want to have a beat box track going = while I switch between other tracks, in this case my group 1 will = include track 1 as well as track 8 which I use as my beat box track. = group 2 will use track 2 and track 8, group 3 is track 3 and 8, etc.... > the long script for group selects are the same as above substituting = group for track. > example: > group 1 cue track except track stop group 1 --Boundary_(ID_9IuRPq5LYiip87iPQKx3lA) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Dude = is Brilliant!

d
On Apr 4, 2011, at 6:18 = PM, William Walker wrote:

  For the last few = months I have been trying to get more comfortable with creating ABC (and = sometimes D) song forms, with the LP-1 running in version 1.37, =  and recently discovered that i could not only further explore the = scripts for running tracks end to end that create these  more = conventional song forms, but the same could be done with groups of = tracks so that i could for instance, create a track or tracks of = rhythmic beat box style loops that would continued to play as I switched = between my A B C (and sometimes D) sections. The only issue with all of = this non- automated track and group tracks  creation is it takes = time to develop ( this one is almost 10 minutes), which has been what = I've been working on, the flow to create a spontaneous song form from = scratch. I created 4 presets on my Gordius LG that toggle between =  tracks 1,2,3, and 4, and i also created 4 presets that select = groups 1,2,3 and 4, with each group including the afore mentioned = individual tracks + tracks 5 thru 8 which is where I record my rhythm = tracks or melody ideas that I want to continue to play as I change = sections. The original scripts were perfected by either Steve Lawson or = Bob himself, i can't recall but here they are along with instructions on = how to use them as well as my new group variations. A little something =  to those of you still using an Lp-1. And though it drags at times, = has a few pitch problems and the dreaded midi foot controller crickets, = this spontaneous improv on the acoustic lap steel shows me creating 4 = tracks (ABCD sections) and a couple of beat box tracks. For the gear = heads I'm sending a Duncan Mag mic sound hole pickup in to a Keeley = compressor and an Xotic ep-1 to a splitter box with one side going to an = ethos preamp,  an eventide timefactor, a tc nova reverb running = both channels  of a Dtar solstice preamp and my Looperlative. The = other side is sent to my normal gig pedal board  with  the =  M-9 set for volume swell echo feeding a Princeton Reverb and a vox = AC 10. Both sides are running in to a MOTU 2408 feeding KRK 8 inch =  monitors.  I really like the way the notes bloom if i hold = them courtesy of the M-9's swell delay , and the timefactor handles =  hold and feedback features better than any delay I've owned. I = wasn't using any overdrive  but the mag mic is excellent at = handling it as long as you don't turn up the mic part:-). The Zoom = Q3 was recording it,  warts and all. 
here is the Youtube = link:
 Enjoy
 Bill =  

 and the  looperlative = scripts:

You will need to initiate the first = loop (track 1) from a standard record/overdub, or sync record / overdub = preset . I always use sync record/ overdub and play/stop now , for what = its worth. I suggest having both those presets in addition to the = following long script presets available on a bank of presets.  here = are the other long script presets you will need:
a preset with the = following commands:
select track 1, cue track , except track, stop, = select track 1
a preset with the following commands:
select track = 2, cue track, except track, stop, select track 2
a preset with the = following commands:
select track 3, cue track, except track, stop, = select track 3
a preset with the following commands:
select track = 4, cue track, except track, stop, select track 4
this would give you = the ability to create 4 part song forms that you could toggle between = once you have each section created.
 Here is how you = build your track. select track one and use sync record/ over dub to = create a track ( the verse section of a tune for example) You have to = end recording the first track (loop) as you would normally, by hitting = either a play/stop preset or a record preset again.  You   = begin recording the next section by hitting the select track 2 =  long script preset, which you can do before track 1 completes its = cycle,  as soon as track one ends recording will begin on track 2, = so at this point you have to be careful of your timing coming in to the = track. To end the track,  you can either press sync record again or = play stop or the preset with the script for track 1 which will return = you to that track.  repeat the procedure to record the other = tracks. after all are created then you can simply toggle between them by = hitting the long script presets for each track. No bear in mind I'm = doing groove oriented stuff but these scripts work just as well for = ambient stuff as well.
I think you will need version1.37 for this to = work.

 These long script track presets also work for group = select commands as well but not to initiate a recording function, only = to toggle between groups. I use these scripts when I want to have a beat = box track going while I switch between other tracks, in this case my = group 1 will include track 1 as well as track 8 which I use as my beat = box track. group 2 will use track 2 and track 8,  group 3 is track = 3 and 8, etc....
the long script for group selects are the same as = above substituting group for track.
example:
group 1 cue track = except track stop group = 1

= --Boundary_(ID_9IuRPq5LYiip87iPQKx3lA)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 5 14:46:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 499F118349F; Tue, 5 Apr 2011 14:46:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=w15DEUvxkfNXXc2V27aBQ6nrUg7zSFFdxEAiNYSSEeA=; b=TXGQWj+rG8ROMdERa+de+lxOaWjI/8jJgoqZUz+FMep6PsPUzG1Nb0A4ecuK9eqel+ ge67pdB344xhAX7IpABOO4hLCoks4/FSuD0mlGk8vmb4z1yJsNvIyAJqTMiKIikA6BTy 8X00vWwjjHm3CwgMV6ZrZb4l1PisXhrr7pbjo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=ESTPEANdxIyFTT+r12H8uLl+KrQIGQO6wHHtpm3L6N/vLOOjoQDt0pp/ym/LmiZKe/ kzOvbCBt8i6bdZaV7UJ/bJ2w8eCR27uqFlsQu4kufIgAS8+xM1TgJW7/v3Pb+vPJl7uW sI8X3NrUFZ4yRujaksnKdsg58ZsBasuai6Jg0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <92965D5D-B9D9-4E13-8806-0D558DC9FC60@baymoon.com> References: <92965D5D-B9D9-4E13-8806-0D558DC9FC60@baymoon.com> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 16:46:29 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: new loop strategy From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: William Walker Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec50163b90907aa04a02cf197 Resent-Message-ID: <4K6_lC.A.zgH.GtymNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108827 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 14:46:30 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec50163b90907aa04a02cf197 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm afraid I'm going to be repetitive (....that's why I love looping ;-) but your music/playing is amazing ! -f ww.eterogeneo.com 2011/4/5 William Walker > For the last few months I have been trying to get more comfortable with > creating ABC (and sometimes D) song forms, with the LP-1 running in version > 1.37, and recently discovered that i could not only further explore the > scripts for running tracks end to end that create these more conventional > song forms, but the same could be done with groups of tracks so that i could > for instance, create a track or tracks of rhythmic beat box style loops that > would continued to play as I switched between my A B C (and sometimes D) > sections. The only issue with all of this non- automated track and group > tracks creation is it takes time to develop ( this one is almost 10 > minutes), which has been what I've been working on, the flow to create a > spontaneous song form from scratch. I created 4 presets on my Gordius LG > that toggle between tracks 1,2,3, and 4, and i also created 4 presets that > select groups 1,2,3 and 4, with each group including the afore mentioned > individual tracks + tracks 5 thru 8 which is where I record my rhythm tracks > or melody ideas that I want to continue to play as I change sections. The > original scripts were perfected by either Steve Lawson or Bob himself, i > can't recall but here they are along with instructions on how to use them as > well as my new group variations. A little something to those of you still > using an Lp-1. And though it drags at times, has a few pitch problems and > the dreaded midi foot controller crickets, this spontaneous improv on the > acoustic lap steel shows me creating 4 tracks (ABCD sections) and a couple > of beat box tracks. For the gear heads I'm sending a Duncan Mag mic sound > hole pickup in to a Keeley compressor and an Xotic ep-1 to a splitter box > with one side going to an ethos preamp, an eventide timefactor, a tc nova > reverb running both channels of a Dtar solstice preamp and my Looperlative. > The other side is sent to my normal gig pedal board with the M-9 set for > volume swell echo feeding a Princeton Reverb and a vox AC 10. Both sides are > running in to a MOTU 2408 feeding KRK 8 inch monitors. I really like the > way the notes bloom if i hold them courtesy of the M-9's swell delay , and > the timefactor handles hold and feedback features better than any delay > I've owned. I wasn't using any overdrive but the mag mic is excellent at > handling it as long as you don't turn up the mic part:-). The Zoom Q3 was > recording it, warts and all. > here is the Youtube link: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE6eydQyHGg > Enjoy > Bill > > and the looperlative scripts: > > You will need to initiate the first loop (track 1) from a standard > record/overdub, or sync record / overdub preset . I always use sync record/ > overdub and play/stop now , for what its worth. I suggest having both those > presets in addition to the following long script presets available on a bank > of presets. here are the other long script presets you will need: > a preset with the following commands: > select track 1, cue track , except track, stop, select track 1 > a preset with the following commands: > select track 2, cue track, except track, stop, select track 2 > a preset with the following commands: > select track 3, cue track, except track, stop, select track 3 > a preset with the following commands: > select track 4, cue track, except track, stop, select track 4 > this would give you the ability to create 4 part song forms that you could > toggle between once you have each section created. > Here is how you build your track. select track one and use sync record/ > over dub to create a track ( the verse section of a tune for example) You > have to end recording the first track (loop) as you would normally, by > hitting either a play/stop preset or a record preset again. You begin > recording the next section by hitting the select track 2 long script > preset, which you can do before track 1 completes its cycle, as soon as > track one ends recording will begin on track 2, so at this point you have to > be careful of your timing coming in to the track. To end the track, you can > either press sync record again or play stop or the preset with the script > for track 1 which will return you to that track. repeat the procedure to > record the other tracks. after all are created then you can simply toggle > between them by hitting the long script presets for each track. No bear in > mind I'm doing groove oriented stuff but these scripts work just as well for > ambient stuff as well. > I think you will need version1.37 for this to work. > > These long script track presets also work for group select commands as > well but not to initiate a recording function, only to toggle between > groups. I use these scripts when I want to have a beat box track going while > I switch between other tracks, in this case my group 1 will include track 1 > as well as track 8 which I use as my beat box track. group 2 will use track > 2 and track 8, group 3 is track 3 and 8, etc.... > the long script for group selects are the same as above substituting group > for track. > example: > group 1 cue track except track stop group 1 > --bcaec50163b90907aa04a02cf197 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm afraid I'm going to be repetitive (....that's why I lo= ve looping ;-)
but your music/playing is amazing !
=A0
-f
ww.eterogeneo.com

2011/4/5 William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com>
=A0=A0For the last few months I have b= een trying to get more comfortable with creating ABC (and sometimes D) song= forms, with the LP-1 running in version 1.37, =A0and recently discovered t= hat i could not only further explore the scripts for running tracks end to = end that create these =A0more conventional song forms, but the same could b= e done with groups of tracks so that i could for instance, create a track o= r tracks of rhythmic beat box style loops that would continued to play as I= switched between my A B C (and sometimes D) sections. The only issue with = all of this non- automated track and group tracks =A0creation is it takes t= ime to develop ( this one is almost 10 minutes), which has been what I'= ve been working on, the flow to create a spontaneous song form from scratch= . I created 4 presets on my Gordius LG that toggle between =A0tracks 1,2,3,= and 4, and i also created 4 presets that select groups 1,2,3 and 4, with e= ach group including the afore mentioned individual tracks + tracks 5 thru 8= which is where I record my rhythm tracks or melody ideas that I want to co= ntinue to play as I change sections. The original scripts were perfected by= either Steve Lawson or Bob himself, i can't recall but here they are a= long with instructions on how to use them as well as my new group variation= s. A little something =A0to those of you still using an Lp-1. And though it= drags at times, has a few pitch problems and the dreaded midi foot control= ler crickets, this spontaneous improv on the acoustic lap steel shows me cr= eating 4 tracks (ABCD sections) and a couple of beat box tracks. For the ge= ar heads I'm sending a Duncan Mag mic sound hole pickup in to a Keeley = compressor and an Xotic ep-1 to a splitter box with one side going to an et= hos preamp, =A0an eventide timefactor, a tc nova reverb running both channe= ls =A0of a Dtar solstice preamp and my Looperlative. The other side is sent= to my normal gig pedal board =A0with =A0the =A0M-9 set for volume swell ec= ho feeding a Princeton Reverb and a vox AC 10. Both sides are running in to= a MOTU 2408 feeding KRK 8 inch =A0monitors. =A0I really like the way the n= otes bloom if i hold them courtesy of the M-9's swell delay , and the t= imefactor handles =A0hold and feedback features better than any delay I'= ;ve owned. I wasn't using any overdrive =A0but the mag mic is excellent= at handling it as long as you don't turn up the mic part:-).=A0The Zoo= m Q3 was recording it, =A0warts and all.=A0=20
here is the Youtube link:=20
=A0Enjoy
=A0Bill =A0

=A0and the =A0looperlative scripts:

You will need to initiate the first loop (track 1) from a standard rec= ord/overdub, or sync record / overdub preset . I always use sync record/ ov= erdub and play/stop now , for what its worth. I suggest having both those p= resets in addition to the following long script presets available on a bank= of presets. =A0here are the other long script presets you will need:
a preset with the following commands:
select track 1, cue track , except= track, stop, select track 1
a preset with the following commands:
se= lect track 2, cue track, except track, stop, select track 2
a preset wit= h the following commands:
select track 3, cue track, except track, stop, select track 3
a preset w= ith the following commands:
select track 4, cue track, except track, sto= p, select track 4
this would give you the ability to create 4 part song = forms that you could toggle between once you have each section created.
=A0Here is how you build your track. select track one and use sync rec= ord/ over dub to create a track ( the verse section of a tune for example) = You have to end recording the first track (loop) as you would normally, by = hitting either a play/stop preset or a record preset again. =A0You =A0 begi= n recording the next section by hitting the select track 2 =A0long script p= reset, which you can do before track 1 completes its cycle, =A0as soon as t= rack one ends recording will begin on track 2, so at this point you have to= be careful of your timing coming in to the track. To end the track, =A0you= can either press sync record again or play stop or the preset with the scr= ipt for track 1 which will return you to that track. =A0repeat the procedur= e to record the other tracks. after all are created then you can simply tog= gle between them by hitting the long script presets for each track. No bear= in mind I'm doing groove oriented stuff but these scripts work just as= well for ambient stuff as well.
I think you will need version1.37 for this to work.

=A0These long sc= ript track presets also work for group select commands as well but not to i= nitiate a recording function, only to toggle between groups. I use these sc= ripts when I want to have a beat box track going while I switch between oth= er tracks, in this case my group 1 will include track 1 as well as track 8 = which I use as my beat box track. group 2 will use track 2 and track 8, =A0= group 3 is track 3 and 8, etc....
the long script for group selects are the same as above substituting group = for track.
example:
group 1 cue track except track stop group 1

--bcaec50163b90907aa04a02cf197-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 5 14:56:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CEDC18349E; Tue, 5 Apr 2011 14:56:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=e/jNQBkeaj4K45mAC4i6wbaTgYPJ6USEUtAk45WPcGY= c=1 sm=1 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=CNxbVC3+Q4TMjpjfeHDQxw==:17 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=MsuJd-5-mnwsgCBZuzkA:9 a=_6u6Ssaqp72vSTp2zyQA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=CNxbVC3+Q4TMjpjfeHDQxw==:117 Message-Id: <78983177-F2E0-40F1-99EB-074CC1F402A0@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <92965D5D-B9D9-4E13-8806-0D558DC9FC60@baymoon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: new loop strategy Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 07:56:13 -0700 References: <92965D5D-B9D9-4E13-8806-0D558DC9FC60@baymoon.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108828 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 14:56:15 +0000 (UTC) Masterful, as usual, Bill. On Apr 4, 2011, at 6:18 PM, William Walker wrote: > For the last few months I have been trying to get more comfortable > with creating ABC (and sometimes D) song forms, with the LP-1 > running in version 1.37, and recently discovered that i could not > only further explore the scripts for running tracks end to end that > create these more conventional song forms, but the same could be > done with groups of tracks so that i could for instance, create a > track or tracks of rhythmic beat box style loops that would > continued to play as I switched between my A B C (and sometimes D) > sections. The only issue with all of this non- automated track and > group tracks creation is it takes time to develop ( this one is > almost 10 minutes), which has been what I've been working on, the > flow to create a spontaneous song form from scratch. I created 4 > presets on my Gordius LG that toggle between tracks 1,2,3, and 4, > and i also created 4 presets that select groups 1,2,3 and 4, with > each group including the afore mentioned individual tracks + tracks > 5 thru 8 which is where I record my rhythm tracks or melody ideas > that I want to continue to play as I change sections. The original > scripts were perfected by either Steve Lawson or Bob himself, i > can't recall but here they are along with instructions on how to use > them as well as my new group variations. A little something to > those of you still using an Lp-1. And though it drags at times, has > a few pitch problems and the dreaded midi foot controller crickets, > this spontaneous improv on the acoustic lap steel shows me creating > 4 tracks (ABCD sections) and a couple of beat box tracks. For the > gear heads I'm sending a Duncan Mag mic sound hole pickup in to a > Keeley compressor and an Xotic ep-1 to a splitter box with one side > going to an ethos preamp, an eventide timefactor, a tc nova reverb > running both channels of a Dtar solstice preamp and my > Looperlative. The other side is sent to my normal gig pedal board > with the M-9 set for volume swell echo feeding a Princeton Reverb > and a vox AC 10. Both sides are running in to a MOTU 2408 feeding > KRK 8 inch monitors. I really like the way the notes bloom if i > hold them courtesy of the M-9's swell delay , and the timefactor > handles hold and feedback features better than any delay I've > owned. I wasn't using any overdrive but the mag mic is excellent at > handling it as long as you don't turn up the mic part:-). The Zoom > Q3 was recording it, warts and all. > here is the Youtube link: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE6eydQyHGg > Enjoy > Bill > > and the looperlative scripts: > > You will need to initiate the first loop (track 1) from a standard > record/overdub, or sync record / overdub preset . I always use sync > record/ overdub and play/stop now , for what its worth. I suggest > having both those presets in addition to the following long script > presets available on a bank of presets. here are the other long > script presets you will need: > a preset with the following commands: > select track 1, cue track , except track, stop, select track 1 > a preset with the following commands: > select track 2, cue track, except track, stop, select track 2 > a preset with the following commands: > select track 3, cue track, except track, stop, select track 3 > a preset with the following commands: > select track 4, cue track, except track, stop, select track 4 > this would give you the ability to create 4 part song forms that you > could toggle between once you have each section created. > Here is how you build your track. select track one and use sync > record/ over dub to create a track ( the verse section of a tune for > example) You have to end recording the first track (loop) as you > would normally, by hitting either a play/stop preset or a record > preset again. You begin recording the next section by hitting the > select track 2 long script preset, which you can do before track 1 > completes its cycle, as soon as track one ends recording will begin > on track 2, so at this point you have to be careful of your timing > coming in to the track. To end the track, you can either press sync > record again or play stop or the preset with the script for track 1 > which will return you to that track. repeat the procedure to record > the other tracks. after all are created then you can simply toggle > between them by hitting the long script presets for each track. No > bear in mind I'm doing groove oriented stuff but these scripts work > just as well for ambient stuff as well. > I think you will need version1.37 for this to work. > > These long script track presets also work for group select commands > as well but not to initiate a recording function, only to toggle > between groups. I use these scripts when I want to have a beat box > track going while I switch between other tracks, in this case my > group 1 will include track 1 as well as track 8 which I use as my > beat box track. group 2 will use track 2 and track 8, group 3 is > track 3 and 8, etc.... > the long script for group selects are the same as above substituting > group for track. > example: > group 1 cue track except track stop group 1 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 5 15:15:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4DB48183486; Tue, 5 Apr 2011 15:15:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "RICK AZIM" To: In-Reply-To: <4D9AE529.2030909@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: RE: new loop strategy Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 08:15:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcvzdnaAb4+5bzdOQsy6eSfl0BADBwALaVtg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.1.7600.16543 Message-ID: <5p1NLC.A.Jf.oIzmNB@arsenic> Resent-Message-ID: <5p1NLC.B.Jf.oIzmNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108829 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 15:15:53 +0000 (UTC) Hey Andy, are you in Seattle? I gathered that you might be from the title if your song. Rick A -----Original Message----- From: andy butler [mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 2:47 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new loop strategy William Walker wrote: > For the last few months I have been trying to get more comfortable > with creating ABC (and sometimes D) thanks for sharing Bill > The Zoom Q3 > was recording it, warts and all. Some of the best sound and vid quality I've seen on a YouTube demo video. The Q3 is perfect for this. > here is the Youtube link: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE6eydQyHGg > Enjoy i did :-) ..and I'm going back again later > Bill > > and the looperlative scripts: > > a preset with the following commands: > select track 1, cue track , except track, stop, select track 1 etc > You > begin recording the next section by hitting the select track 2 long > script preset, which you can do before track 1 completes its cycle, > as soon as track one ends recording will begin on track 2, so at this > point you have to be careful of your timing coming in to the track. Right, so we're in grid time here. Question: now track 1 is master, will track 2 be recorded to sync with it even when track 1 is stopped? > I think you will need version1.37 for this to work. Yes, the "Except" command is not available in v1.34d. I found with v1.37 that i had problems with dropouts at the beginning of a recorded loop ( and this was generally a sign that the LP1 would end up crashing). (I suspect this may be due to my use of smaller loops to create rhythm ala EDP.) With v1.34d a different approach is needed as it needs some Groups set up specially. Group 1: tracks 234 Group 2: tracks 134 Group 3: tracks 124 Group 4: tracks 123 presets with the following commands: selectTrack(1), cueTrack , selectGroup(1), stop, selectTrack(1) selectTrack(2), cueTrack , selectGroup(2), stop, selectTrack(2) selectTrack(3), cueTrack , selectGroup(3), stop, selectTrack(3) selectTrack(4), cueTrack , selectGroup(4), stop, selectTrack(4) > I use these scripts when I want to have a beat box track going while I > switch between other tracks, in this case my group 1 will include > track 1 as well as track 8 which I use as my beat box track. the above 1.34d solution would (obviously) work with 1.37. ...and it would allow a beatbox track to be recorded on track 5 which could be master. The the Record function would still be initialised. andy butler ps. The new firmware for the Gordius LG2 will be able to do shortpress/longpress. e.g. on one switch a short press starts record, ...a longpress erases the loop That's going to really give the LP1 a boost. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 5 15:18:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 186D018349E; Tue, 5 Apr 2011 15:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "RICK AZIM" To: Subject: FW: new loop strategy Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 08:17:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcvzdnaAb4+5bzdOQsy6eSfl0BADBwALaVtgAAAZLmA= X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.1.7600.16543 Message-ID: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108830 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 15:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Sorry, Andy. That was meant for Bill. -----Original Message----- From: RICK AZIM [mailto:rcazim@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 8:15 AM To: 'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com' Subject: RE: new loop strategy Hey Andy, are you in Seattle? I gathered that you might be from the title if your song. Rick A -----Original Message----- From: andy butler [mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 2:47 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new loop strategy William Walker wrote: > For the last few months I have been trying to get more comfortable > with creating ABC (and sometimes D) thanks for sharing Bill > The Zoom Q3 > was recording it, warts and all. Some of the best sound and vid quality I've seen on a YouTube demo video. The Q3 is perfect for this. > here is the Youtube link: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE6eydQyHGg > Enjoy i did :-) ..and I'm going back again later > Bill > > and the looperlative scripts: > > a preset with the following commands: > select track 1, cue track , except track, stop, select track 1 etc > You > begin recording the next section by hitting the select track 2 long > script preset, which you can do before track 1 completes its cycle, as > soon as track one ends recording will begin on track 2, so at this > point you have to be careful of your timing coming in to the track. Right, so we're in grid time here. Question: now track 1 is master, will track 2 be recorded to sync with it even when track 1 is stopped? > I think you will need version1.37 for this to work. Yes, the "Except" command is not available in v1.34d. I found with v1.37 that i had problems with dropouts at the beginning of a recorded loop ( and this was generally a sign that the LP1 would end up crashing). (I suspect this may be due to my use of smaller loops to create rhythm ala EDP.) With v1.34d a different approach is needed as it needs some Groups set up specially. Group 1: tracks 234 Group 2: tracks 134 Group 3: tracks 124 Group 4: tracks 123 presets with the following commands: selectTrack(1), cueTrack , selectGroup(1), stop, selectTrack(1) selectTrack(2), cueTrack , selectGroup(2), stop, selectTrack(2) selectTrack(3), cueTrack , selectGroup(3), stop, selectTrack(3) selectTrack(4), cueTrack , selectGroup(4), stop, selectTrack(4) > I use these scripts when I want to have a beat box track going while I > switch between other tracks, in this case my group 1 will include > track 1 as well as track 8 which I use as my beat box track. the above 1.34d solution would (obviously) work with 1.37. ...and it would allow a beatbox track to be recorded on track 5 which could be master. The the Record function would still be initialised. andy butler ps. The new firmware for the Gordius LG2 will be able to do shortpress/longpress. e.g. on one switch a short press starts record, ...a longpress erases the loop That's going to really give the LP1 a boost. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 5 18:55:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E45918349D; Tue, 5 Apr 2011 18:55:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=qU0xYlBFiuSeWdccKHW7M45saKYkqLRRYW96rhbIQ/Y=; b=X627rZd8kWrnZxoo4mMwma8XendTzr9Ufd7UaX+WAmjZbg1rvOrblfEe7NKPdIecY1 dmhqWRODqOgoMiDyZuY8eKCTFWRph3ejt9lGAW9SED2QCyrLodE8N5MFipd/iQU56y/+ 0T5vlB6yIpyk9VcCBOwp25zFj8cJ/eJ57n2GU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=nOs3zBhayhtWPr8qi0EEkrzSjP6Mb+OAQtIsVGWi6mIBfoYN6Grkvbp8Ib1dUu6Lmn vIqwqFi+OnNunq7wFIKVxZfmNvMjjQGbSp/VySmDDG1QugvtjJAuEgSf1WoI6bibaW2J 9qQklRgdtyWdyhzm9R8pCsl9uWBb9IrJuR3us= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 13:55:51 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: my new love: PIGTRONIX ECHOLUTION (12 sec of delay looping) From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd17c3ccd9ee404a0306c27 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108831 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 18:55:53 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd17c3ccd9ee404a0306c27 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 hey all-last friday i got my pigtronix echolution. i got it used after getting rid of some stuff that i thought i wanted (a painful month of trying out stuff) anyway, i figure i spend a fair amt of time saying what i hate about stuff, and slagging the loopers that didn't work for me, so it's positive time: OMFingG--I LOVE THIS THING!!!!!! i have of course heard about these for a while, knew it had 12 sec of delay and all, but it was way out of my budget range. but after selling stuff and having a bit of $$$-i got one, it's the most i've ever spent on a pedal. and man-IT IS GREAT! 12 sec of delay-based loops. pitchshifting and time stretching (think of what you've seen the pds8000 could do--it's not exactly like that-but man, it's close for me).(it also reminds me a bit of my EH 16 DDL-better interface for me though.....although not as much time delay option-but i never went very long on the 16 ddl-i don't think i ever went to 16 sec!) it honestly reminds me of my old dod d12 (12 sec delay rack unit)--which of course reminded me of a budget lexicon pcm 42 (the 19 sec of delay looping that david torn uses & abuses so well). the knobs are SO STURDY. it has a million switches for adding different taps to the delays, and reverse, etc etc. for the 12 sec of looping that i like to use, it is amazing. it also has chorus and tremolo options to add-sort of like adding a modulation to the delays-in those modes-you can certainly get some spacey delays-ambient heaven. and it has a switch for "loop". so you can have a gentle delay loop degrading and hit that and it will lock that in and you can play over it. i honestly don't think i've done as much looping as i have in the last 4 days as i have w/ it. need to record stuff.... i tried to go through all the functions of it w/ the manual, man it could take a lifetime, there are so many switches....but i will say the thing i love is the 12 sec of delay loops....and i can record a 2 or 3 sec short loop, turn the delay time knob to slow it down...and MAN-instant stretched out looped/texture madness... honestly -it's better than what my old dod d12 could do.... i just love it..i know some people will probably say "12 sec? that's all?" but for me that's all i need, and w/ the ability to stretch and pitch shift, it's all i want...love it. the other side affect to it: it uses a 15 volt power supply, so w/ my tele i detect a boost of signal, which honestly I ALSO LOVE. haven't tried my HB guitar w/ it yet. & w/ the Florescent light in my studio, i get some hum, but honestly--i don't care.... some may ask: does it have MIDI- answer: i honestly don't know, don't care. i do know that it has an input for a passive volume to manipulate the delay time-similar to what DT could do w/ his pcm 42. i haven't used it though, i just do it by hand w/ the knobs. love the knobs & switches. i can honestly say that after, what 4 yrs of searching i found the tool that i love and can use..... over and out.... and now back to your software looping discussion...which is another realm well out of my knowledge base.....(ha)...... s---- --000e0cd17c3ccd9ee404a0306c27 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hey all-last friday i got my pigtronix echolution. i got it used after gett= ing rid of some stuff that i thought i wanted (a painful month of trying ou= t stuff)
anyway, i figure i spend a fair amt of time saying what i hate = about stuff, and slagging the loopers that didn't work for me, so it= 9;s positive time:

OMFingG--I LOVE THIS=A0 THING!!!!!!

i have of course heard about= these for a while, knew it had 12 sec of delay and all, but it was way out= of my budget range.

but after selling stuff and having a bit of $$$= -i got one, it's the most i've ever spent on a pedal.

and man-IT IS GREAT!

12 sec of delay-based loops.
pitchshifti= ng and time stretching (think of what you've seen the pds8000 could do-= -it's not exactly like that-but man, it's close for me).(it also re= minds me a bit of
my EH 16 DDL-better interface for me though.....although not as much time d= elay option-but i never went very long on the 16 ddl-i don't think i ev= er went to 16 sec!)

it honestly reminds me of my old dod d12 (12 sec= delay rack unit)--which of course reminded me of a budget lexicon pcm 42 (= the 19 sec of delay looping that
david torn uses & abuses so well).

the knobs are SO STURDY. it h= as a million switches for adding different taps to the delays, and reverse,= etc etc.

for the 12 sec of looping that i like to use, it is amazin= g.
it also has chorus and tremolo options to add-sort of like adding a modulat= ion to the delays-in those modes-you can certainly get some spacey delays-a= mbient heaven.

and it has a switch for "loop". so you can = have a gentle delay loop degrading and hit that and it will lock that in an= d you can play over it.
i honestly don't think i've done as much looping as i have in the l= ast 4 days as i have w/ it. need to record stuff....

i tried to go t= hrough all the functions of it w/ the manual, man it could take a lifetime,= there are so many switches....but i will say the thing i love is the
12 sec of delay loops....and i can record a 2 or 3 sec short loop, turn the= delay time knob to slow it down...and MAN-instant stretched out looped/tex= ture madness...
honestly -it's better than what my old dod d12 could= do....

i just love it..i know some people will probably say "12 sec? that= 's all?" but for me that's all i need, and w/ the ability to s= tretch and pitch shift, it's all i want...love it.

the other sid= e affect to it: it uses a 15 volt power supply, so w/ my tele i detect a bo= ost of signal, which honestly I ALSO LOVE. haven't tried my HB guitar w= / it yet. & w/ the Florescent light i= n my studio, i get some hum, but honestly--i don't care....

some may ask: does it have MIDI- answer: i honestly don't know, don= 't care. i do know that it has an input for a passive volume to manipul= ate the delay time-similar to
what DT could do w/ his pcm 42. i haven&#= 39;t used it though, i just do it by hand w/ the knobs. love the knobs &= ; switches.
i can honestly say that after, what 4 yrs of searching i found the tool tha= t i love and can use.....
over and out....
and now back to your softw= are looping discussion...which is another realm well out of my knowledge ba= se.....(ha)......
s----
 --000e0cd17c3ccd9ee404a0306c27-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 5 20:11:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3507183453; Tue, 5 Apr 2011 20:11:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=GUuD4g7eEhBzLHSXdEbYf4741zust9jdjPgcLOhKq6g=; b=Cr2viYVb0U1aLm5LalErx2dyqxfHNr8cbGe598eHbbpz6iBOA9QqMdmgJBx42Pj6K2 aXr/xVxdolIq0TCaoqj/HEk0RGR0h1ISBCu+RfH1WaTa4eIu1ZdagV4JCd0fkLkeKX9F urcFJvnv2cOx+/zcHZjwk+ffz1LoUYHZqvoR0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ib5wxeT4KrVrHKwqEs48vIH6X3ODgp5+9Jxwu1C8pVCHdWWlj2pw/WT+jvyReRZgGt ARwa899YZwEPsgz9Ceh04au6eU4PGCDw5zhPfVvCEQ273JRVKHckASvFK216IIaZRQSq WEzBRTPKx7AtQCyr6mrwAZ0Up3sPqL9qbrAIo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 22:11:28 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Tomy Levin live looping From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf304346e446368e04a0317be4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108832 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 20:11:29 +0000 (UTC) --20cf304346e446368e04a0317be4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Anyone saw this ? No special techiques involved here. It seems he's just using a basical delay for layering a musical base to play trough, but it's nice to see how he runs those 3 minutes of solo looping. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=pgUDDxFgL7I -f www.eterogeneo --20cf304346e446368e04a0317be4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Anyone saw this ?
No special techiques involved here.=A0It seems=A0he's just using a= basical delay for layering
a musical base to play trough, but it's nice to see how he runs th= ose 3 minutes of solo looping.
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--20cf304346e446368e04a0317be4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 5 21:14:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A232518349D; Tue, 5 Apr 2011 21:14:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pFAxoR+5Kp/BF6jf4UpTEJMFwXzvu5aMENufpPN8XJM=; b=XCFsgWTkORGhhXCwgfZeaHFddNzjLXZX1ElVV520aEnYb0YM8erVQ8dcbVgPKwAfG6 CjyGjjMaTJ3hmsq9mZAzVLz5c3KWMd8w75XNPgUIWh1rOC0mq5hw/F8qSFRUPaplFf1N DeSJwn57KJiLff3KYd/kMYketuslqj7JG1Hv8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GZ0+j230gWmc3/bBE6vXWxJheWZQx2uIGAcRyNz5R3zSbLYZOiY6Xxqti/UCNxvsr+ kysJtpVVLttBZuY6eBIhew8s/Sy6LOC0AYFBCh539BDxF8UGosE4fGTneTiALLyXmd6G 8c5R0nWAYton+Jp3Md3Pds1ksC8oQJed6dBqs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <82FD854458F540B88BFCB06D7DE18C30@mpeserver> References: <82FD854458F540B88BFCB06D7DE18C30@mpeserver> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 23:14:40 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_K=F6ln_Loopfest_2011?= From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108833 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 21:14:42 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > Here's a nice 5 minute feature=A0(broadcast yesterday) from German radio > station WDR3 about the loopfest, containing some short interviews (all in > German) and music snippets: > http://www.veloopity.de/michaelpeters/interview/loopfestcologne2011_wdr3_= tuulasimon.mp3 > > WDR3 is a large radio station focused on culture, jazz, classical music. = I'm > sure this was heard by quite a lot of people interested in music who had > never heard of livelooping. Yay! Super! :) --=20 Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 5 22:17:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EEA6318349D; Tue, 5 Apr 2011 22:17:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=ZtuXOl23UuD1yoJUTgnZ6i6Z5VPlPhPMWCeUNtN8OGA= c=1 sm=0 a=NGYEJai8_ZwA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Pq5w6/OiCe8pl5iuHRIo4A==:17 a=MotFZId2AAAA:8 a=1lfxRu89qFPsPWnT1ZYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=NfTVwfMzq8QA:10 a=Pq5w6/OiCe8pl5iuHRIo4A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 66.25.180.248 From: Victor Eijkhout Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: any other recorder players here? :-) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:17:41 -0500 Message-Id: <33714376-9667-4970-A5F2-052ADD7CF987@eijkhout.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108834 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 22:17:42 +0000 (UTC) I'm starting to tinker with an RC-50. Fun! http://www.eijkhout.net/mp3s/loop/Sunday.mp3 Victor. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 6 07:21:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57611183486; Wed, 6 Apr 2011 07:21:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=j5bhtQ+VHvMpSKA7Oj69M5HNvKBTVdMGspOL7pvp1vo=; b=tPqtBMbjBY262wm2GibSd/3QWfzxZJyfjgOPduWlwREqeufOF4V4Djk5b2txl0oC+d G4P1i8VRzuoRgN047EVrjJ73OUYoG2gKN4X12gsRbNtmnCdmNILNOXXITjEoXWJQnGQW CvRdXTByACvYVXK1lxhjZ2o0PnqirVjBCtxSU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YPlGym1FhDHsiadszSw5+YWXqwyJhF4KQJl/76uw+x//vsofSlgBv5IbwXwbPXGcOX mM4Deerz8EcNjtztPwUAkLK1yhFhcbkBogPFSxDu0H7b244aJWBw2tiqmfy7LBPgu8iz OSblNuDyb7uvGMUsa3oFvHDysbbp1PDXiJ+YQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 09:21:30 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Tomy Levin live looping From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108835 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 07:21:31 +0000 (UTC) wow! those string sounds are also really nice,does he have the GK pickup and is it coming from the roland synth unit??? On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Fabio_A wrote: > Anyone saw this ? > No special techiques involved here.=A0It seems=A0he's just using a basica= l delay > for layering > a musical base to play trough, but it's nice to see how he runs those 3 > minutes of solo looping. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=3Dplayer_detailpage&v=3DpgUDDxFgL7I > > -f > www.eterogeneo > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 6 07:45:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A624183486; Wed, 6 Apr 2011 07:45:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yc1Xq6bOAAD9fdJ4JKttUuHRnNyXKxQ8GbKslwPHdCg=; b=GqcH4gYeVnZ/ZjDp6lgxRrbdMmCXusNLIzdAkun4frbXjdhfD2dsOiNEfNpUjEh0il kUlEUJ8BqyHorQapS8H4Ujbx9V6wwRVP6RaBiKlInIySv56NAOlTo/qEMQAUWRc0+vSq FM1dps8lBSf5gCuJKWQIhEdqRo0jPgBw2Lojo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=n7DMRHcHT5hz8xdpH/Cwx0iQ0vb28SsitgFnOUUu8V9Rn8X0cfJV7GNnVNS80tlo3U yaE6Gff0Pl0d81rtRkqXGymhoAowQT5NWuld1Dj566Pn8p9Y9Oex+CtoUvBsSB6b2yZl d6HTmH4rZ5JHVpomMMkt88qnhhkkVauBoyjrQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 09:45:03 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Tomy Levin live looping From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108836 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 07:45:04 +0000 (UTC) No synth used there. He loops a fast arpeggio played on the melody side and then he plays long notes on the bass side going though some distortion effect. When I saw him do this with STickman here in Stockholm he had an Ampeg top + cab for the bass side and a Rectifier for the melody side. Stick strings are longer and set to a lower action compared to a guitar, hence the long sustain that may fool the ear into thinking a synth tone is used. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > wow! those string sounds are also really nice,does he have the GK > pickup and is it coming from the roland synth unit??? > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Fabio_A wrote: >> Anyone saw this ? >> No special techiques involved here.=C2=A0It seems=C2=A0he's just using a= basical delay >> for layering >> a musical base to play trough, but it's nice to see how he runs those 3 >> minutes of solo looping. >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=3Dplayer_detailpage&v=3DpgUDDxFgL7I >> >> -f >> www.eterogeneo >> > > > > -- > www.luis-angulo.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 6 08:45:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 762F6183486; Wed, 6 Apr 2011 08:45:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XnvvzHSbvrPhqKDAFSbL5GnOz4hvlaTXRQD/zxU5qbw=; b=q5HXBrp23qSEZ8EULWkAnXdbLG8MtbIYEzfXKyxp2o1gY877Pv43+MSb7wiewLQ8GB ravrLp2u0WuT8rQWjgWUyX10Q0zHI3Mbe79Jkb63VrygPoE+ci1ef5NmJ0EhF/wusVT/ jbU8yhV3qBHZ8gOvtkHd99z/hFO9wO8FN6n/E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=EcvPAqgjZXKTAwsuVVBVZWSQ4JZgmG0KwRKTcOxtGkRVdvkq6VjBowCv22Dnts6Oe7 x/MLKjhlHDMR/geV/isjlj7ryqx1+2OryQNmNjbnnGMVzSRdgO56RcEcMMkzmKguRjSN WqZiDuKdzIUXuHRapsZLik8r1p9b+PVR3U+Jk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 09:45:00 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: my new love: PIGTRONIX ECHOLUTION (12 sec of delay looping) From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3005dce41f511b04a03c0288 Resent-Message-ID: <6BaNj.A.n3E.NgCnNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108837 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 08:45:01 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3005dce41f511b04a03c0288 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i always thought this looked like a really great pedal. i'm surprised it doesn't get more mentions in delay threads sim On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:55 PM, Scott Hansen wrote: > hey all-last friday i got my pigtronix echolution. i got it used after > getting rid of some stuff that i thought i wanted (a painful month of trying > out stuff) > anyway, i figure i spend a fair amt of time saying what i hate about stuff, > and slagging the loopers that didn't work for me, so it's positive time: > > OMFingG--I LOVE THIS THING!!!!!! > > --20cf3005dce41f511b04a03c0288 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i always thought this looked like a really great pedal. i'm surprised i= t doesn't get more mentions in delay threads

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hey all-last friday i got my pigtronix echo= lution. i got it used after getting rid of some stuff that i thought i want= ed (a painful month of trying out stuff)
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OMFingG--I LOVE THIS=A0 THING!!!!!!

--20cf3005dce41f511b04a03c0288-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 6 09:46:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8451C183486; Wed, 6 Apr 2011 09:46:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 599942195/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.181.234/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.181.234 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ag4CAPo1nE1V0rXq/2dsb2JhbAAMhD+UIb8EkEmBKINMeASREA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,309,1299456000"; d="scan'208";a="599942195" Message-ID: <4D9C367E.0@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2011 10:46:38 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Tomy Levin live looping References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108838 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 09:46:26 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > No synth used there. He loops a fast arpeggio played on the melody > side and then he plays long notes on the bass side going though some > distortion effect. At times there's a really realistic rasp sound like a bowed double bass...so it would be interesting to know exactly which distortion fx is being used. (there's also a slow attack to help the effect) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 6 11:04:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 350BA183449; Wed, 6 Apr 2011 11:04:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4u8xuRhYO+QluDwDYh/GDNwod2Z2ooPPZRT6Gh2frDE=; b=crdtd4ajxONkeeeyOQveBZUL9nR+PLYf2X1+ZBeZdcriJipoduFhsIZfpapwkyVVga OmMfGIlzE+m5b+Atu9p6q8nZDItNT9sC2WsmnwKzpRH/+6VqLIqFqXDNe0mv5MhlawMA NBVh3ZBT5K3o43W1WNicWznTCO0iwu5vPLz6w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=sYAmIIk5S0roC+YRE46MQElw+f5jjex7w/JK8KL0RjQ8uYR/veknKnHqTWyKoclbtV z5hjXUC5zAHikGPKfFbaKkisPsCWF5ShTzJUivOARE3e5hVTkHrdJTiSVhHn8Az3bQOs 8pREEjETydprqZHbwyBnxVNZPCjt8ZnpxJ+aI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D9C367E.0@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D9C367E.0@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 13:04:03 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Tomy Levin live looping From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108839 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 11:04:03 +0000 (UTC) > Per Boysen wrote: >> >> No synth used there. He loops a fast arpeggio played on the melody >> side and then he plays long notes on the bass side going though some >> distortion effect. > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:46 AM, andy butler wrote: > At times there's a really realistic rasp sound > like a bowed double bass...so it would be interesting to know > exactly which distortion fx is being used. > (there's also a slow attack to help the effect) > Indeed! I remember someone posted what fx that was on the Stick forum, but this morning I was too busy running out on a field job to check it out. Will post back here if I can find it. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 6 12:08:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD8B218349C; Wed, 6 Apr 2011 12:08:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FwX3YLNtt6XjrA/NI+ZqLTQeNMVQjV14sN1LP8fQ9sU=; b=r2RqfhR+iNlE2zRO8mtt4i6nRGHb7v5FAiayJBTZilr1nbhOHR73y6lip9bS4gnwAb n5CtICHLuxvW+dnMqt/sXE+bp583fi6vCAgcqF0fxCczBkLemxdF39BH0EMoi52O+iFf Ubpk3iMLJQJoWMzSK26JOd+rr7dApfZvYV/6s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Xq5kWIs/sxLqP8qm2B5/mOTLyVb+ubhqP70ymCgIKfhRTVNSwvRJbGF3/FsUbvAyHF 8zeQAMlWrJKOVcP5TdixStZwJ3fu2VuqU0zJ4TIvCmLdIcRGp4N4phGeVNDIODpwCida cz1ifVgR7+oMnqSfZEQeD9Ash5gL+fYzo3wUU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D9C367E.0@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 14:08:50 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Tomy Levin live looping From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108840 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 12:08:51 +0000 (UTC) Two other listeners over at the Stick forum report having seen him do this live with a volume pedal. That makes us three. I think the "bow sound" in the early stage of each bass note is the distortion, as it comes out when there is no string plucking sound left in the note attack. Levin is also known for using a lot of compression on the Stick (easily spotted on Elephant Talk by Crimson). However - there really is an awesome effect patch that makes a Stick bass (or normal electric bass) sound like a warm buzzing fretless double bass: The Digitech BP8 set to a patch using its "fretless simulator". Sound example here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ2MP8wacIE Pedal image here: http://www.bonesweb.com/Bobbybones/Images/bp8_lrg.jpg Per On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> Per Boysen wrote: >>> >>> No synth used there. He loops a fast arpeggio played on the melody >>> side and then he plays long notes on the bass side going though some >>> distortion effect. >> > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:46 AM, andy butler wrote: >> At times there's a really realistic rasp sound >> like a bowed double bass...so it would be interesting to know >> exactly which distortion fx is being used. >> (there's also a slow attack to help the effect) >> > > Indeed! I remember someone posted what fx that was on the Stick forum, > but this morning I was too busy running out on a field job to check it > out. Will post back here if I can find it. > > Per > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 6 14:01:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA8B8183486; Wed, 6 Apr 2011 14:01:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE:_K=F6ln_Loopfest_2011?= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 16:01:22 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0071_01CBF473.E010E0D0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acv0U3dCQgy4crZKTfCnSvoPW89T9wAD495A In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108841 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 14:01:26 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0071_01CBF473.E010E0D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://veloopity.blogspot.com/2011/04/livelooping-weekend.html ------=_NextPart_000_0071_01CBF473.E010E0D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0071_01CBF473.E010E0D0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 6 14:56:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 91E27183486; Wed, 6 Apr 2011 14:56:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20110406120852.368ED1834A3@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: new loop strategy Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 07:56:33 -0700 References: <20110406120852.368ED1834A3@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108842 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 14:56:41 +0000 (UTC) > Andy wrote: > Question: now track 1 is master, will track 2 be recorded to sync > with it > even when track 1 is stopped? Yes i believe so though Ill have to check it for sure, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 6 15:02:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A06B6183486; Wed, 6 Apr 2011 15:02:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_K=C3=B6ln_Loopfest_2011?= Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2011 11:01:48 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 68.162.128.161 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: michael klobuchar X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33490-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CDC282B04846F0-3A0-CA97@webmail-d040.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108843 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 15:02:17 +0000 (UTC) michael sez: "if one chooses nice loop musicians".....now i=20 understand! this looked like great fun! a BIG CONGRATS to all! http://veloopity.blogspot.com/2011/04/livelooping-weekend.html =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 6 18:41:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7208F183486; Wed, 6 Apr 2011 18:41:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=qYSQ08yPp9xML8lXyKIqXosQA49nmJBfwnh10/F9lNQ=; b=YGCN7B3kGAmx1N1M8n+T7kQdie//QaDRFK4BLftjgqrHqCRVufScPDFWJirqy1r+w4 wYQVVa/mvzUtgUgD2FHjHZImhXBwznkeJGmybL+svnkiMeCJpS/1zk9W1ur6jh0lRfQV PMOgcRl8AEUSwK4pD11DHY7hpKSkeLOiNNvXo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=qdqfM/q6qostb48yWj2PoB3XEI1Cyxtq/mAkZqJ4Pqk6L1FvqbtpIgXqj5F8CPSu3A eaYBZk7aYdnQg169VBIyfXOmz+nxrKbjxdRxP1FcZTKP0n9IHSYynWNA6XMd+9nnEpOT YcTW3rAYx5Wor/rNI6arQLk1qqYN6w7c+gy7g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <92965D5D-B9D9-4E13-8806-0D558DC9FC60@baymoon.com> References: <92965D5D-B9D9-4E13-8806-0D558DC9FC60@baymoon.com> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 11:41:45 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: new loop strategy From: Lindsey Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108844 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 18:41:47 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for sharing your findings. This is something I've been working on too. Lindsey From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 6 19:24:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 87914183486; Wed, 6 Apr 2011 19:24:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=eoh5ZgleGxkCUEehBCkF0azqDhDdeRJe927Iy0if/14=; b=U73RCrxX7BUJeesnQC+FpQiAD5d/Vo2/oFraWBt0paWcHDy5Ss7D6TI/KsksLVqRIo 1a5fXHRnxAzBvQt7bZBnP4afnmanGCD+vQHYPCo2sJT2/iVKZJpW5YoTGUu6J3imTm22 oq1byhhT+8LRkQUMwTQ6MNN+get7LBKweuGgs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=H3+ngD52h8ascHLLMoYUoSDoDG5ayReFVO8MJhjUvHwYaqNPvFHG0V/hn6H8StoNpU SmdK8eeZHSnSynY2yiuwQxgUpCbaXOmfIU62zs5uK7wtliODEqSCn2vDJ3C1j6zJa6Kd KKc52WifI/7cGdd0XCeG5PQ0gJqqEfVDKLIfA= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: new loop strategy From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: <92965D5D-B9D9-4E13-8806-0D558DC9FC60@baymoon.com> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 15:22:11 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <92965D5D-B9D9-4E13-8806-0D558DC9FC60@baymoon.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108845 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 19:24:07 +0000 (UTC) I love your music, Bill. Thanks for sharing the video. -Todd Matthews From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 6 21:13:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78253183486; Wed, 6 Apr 2011 21:13:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=cmMELprxDcFHG8Rnl3OfvLtmpEuz0uG3f6IKS3pJf/8=; b=uHmk5wKnYk44PmFR6uZlG/poUI/PhrbMFIQ/6P/ZKILccr4vrK3VAlNfY+nFAN5SZ9 WPX/OsSrLqo7bSSzSZojQYE5O3MA4hc8OIQrd7jZ6UG8gFimBSToa6YfZDWN3HFYf8YZ ku2tVjkeTFZV0/L994YWv8Vw06kWq7LxGWcW4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=o4yPAxG8lCoTdrZJkxRNLmHXssoJEW1IFbg1lhk315m/GJLMMrlAk6K1RpowLMUH3S 6MYo4rDf6TdvZu0oWTJBy8A3gc/MpQDnHHTX1jtgQQwcdd6savj/HYRhKHFy9PbxyngS 7Z2efYjuBZGQM1xg7eQU+VFK7xTX3LpdhGXxw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D9C367E.0@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 23:12:59 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Tomy Levin live looping From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108846 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 21:13:00 +0000 (UTC) wow i could have swore that was a cello patch from a synth,im impressed! Luis On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Two other listeners over at the Stick forum report having seen him do > this live with a volume pedal. That makes us three. I think the "bow > sound" in the early stage of each bass note is the distortion, as it > comes out when there is no string plucking sound left in the note > attack. Levin is also known for using a lot of compression on the > Stick (easily spotted on Elephant Talk by Crimson). > > However - there really is an awesome effect patch that makes a Stick > bass (or normal electric bass) sound like a warm buzzing fretless > double bass: The Digitech BP8 set to a patch using its "fretless > simulator". Sound example here: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ2MP8wacIE > > Pedal image here: > http://www.bonesweb.com/Bobbybones/Images/bp8_lrg.jpg > > Per > > > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >>> Per Boysen wrote: >>>> >>>> No synth used there. He loops a fast arpeggio played on the melody >>>> side and then he plays long notes on the bass side going though some >>>> distortion effect. >>> >> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:46 AM, andy butler wrote: >>> At times there's a really realistic rasp sound >>> like a bowed double bass...so it would be interesting to know >>> exactly which distortion fx is being used. >>> (there's also a slow attack to help the effect) >>> >> >> Indeed! I remember someone posted what fx that was on the Stick forum, >> but this morning I was too busy running out on a field job to check it >> out. Will post back here if I can find it. >> >> Per >> > > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 6 21:32:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED572183449; Wed, 6 Apr 2011 21:32:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+dlIg/NQ3BV21amu0bansXUWFg/2YWifJU30yBh8alE=; b=uMjmOuaiDxKxt/E+NAJVxXFiQsjE1XyyCtBGNe17uWFyNyiPLcLgx/rWun4+jA457D CwP1z2BJv9ZQ/OVs8BTec/xswBzagUlnR6LHrTMwJ9whz299I72W+LTJ27dihvjekpnN jqOryiwxWczC4O9gTAoMEjlbiWysmgDxYdX74= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=D98og2sf/P3M7sWQeGwDgdzftMShb2dpisCVFFpFCbT/IvkYmSc1XFuk9FNqY/gi46 qCADLCv9vuL0umZ/Pfw4ZeiNWxZXjqhDiwslrVulOH1/7XHKhtBDaq5A28sIh3+Nflwo R/G6bYDaimwQX1IqJKJNmdIVsPJHN5r0ke2Ok= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CDC282B04846F0-3A0-CA97@webmail-d040.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CDC282B04846F0-3A0-CA97@webmail-d040.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 23:14:41 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_K=F6ln_Loopfest_2011?= From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <1m0A3B.A.GlF.IwNnNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108847 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 21:32:56 +0000 (UTC) great pics,looks like it was an awesome concert! cheers Luis On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 5:01 PM, michael klobuchar wrote= : > michael sez: =A0"if one chooses nice loop musicians".....now i understand= ! > > this looked like great fun! a BIG CONGRATS to all! > > > > http://veloopity.blogspot.com/2011/04/livelooping-weekend.html > > > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 6 21:36:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A52D18349D; Wed, 6 Apr 2011 21:36:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tFAit4Dfcd0XbbWWJ3P8nWWgpWo8W/7hUkmQPX6ko7o=; b=BGSvRrfWIZebfPfmWbdaZeDBw2V0DPYGmlzdn3xTewUONNbmsfqXIy1z0MSk1cQOxI Jknu2I0wzibuaD1PiTFf4CQvSSyLCwXjCOdzZNJN32lTxdTLdIvbL7WW9YVomz/54lvH wAvL1N4WrqMQiPy0dSnAnysGF94OBB8Ntgk9o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=JGUksC/qF4edYfhnWEurpJzHtzUfd9UzgceQzumGDftABkkdnVwU15knCdqK6ICuDT N9XLMELP24E6++LhJr80YSCrZrsxNrdZCeTS8tSESaQCL6yQTsWDJ6D0DouLrvIppzeT 22FNbseAW8MRtxi47Ork7Wj5nW2qBHjH9+TAo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <8CDC282B04846F0-3A0-CA97@webmail-d040.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 23:36:48 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_K=F6ln_Loopfest_2011?= From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364eeb1a4b8f9804a046ca89 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108848 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 21:36:49 +0000 (UTC) --0016364eeb1a4b8f9804a046ca89 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 kudos to michael! 2011/4/6 Louie Angulo > great pics,looks like it was an awesome concert! > cheers > Luis > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 5:01 PM, michael klobuchar > wrote: > > michael sez: "if one chooses nice loop musicians".....now i understand! > > > > this looked like great fun! a BIG CONGRATS to all! > > > > > > > > http://veloopity.blogspot.com/2011/04/livelooping-weekend.html > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > www.luis-angulo.com > > -- .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com --0016364eeb1a4b8f9804a046ca89 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable kudos to michael!

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great pics,looks like it was an awesome concert!
cheers
Luis

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--0016364eeb1a4b8f9804a046ca89-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 6 21:42:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C9C8E183449; Wed, 6 Apr 2011 21:42:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FI+qbsgvLbyHF2RD7Wz7jZ1ORVOtuvFqU3WGms0vgDE=; b=wR6rv+2EvY7CluE1SL/B+OLkEIKzQZ1HzFIByzR7y1gMZEp3E+go/rkczCataI4zfa /Ksjk+fncMFthsEkJ2OluMnIn4pJIQIqPAAo3Hrn/vvxqJRQ/oxMcXnDp/BMEThAR5SV Cy0s60BLBuJKxsBNZjdpRxY1A9IeqKsu0IxuU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AXSy+wD1AxqxzZDceoomTL2E0nniwy22Pidj0uVFrkYnlN84foioVGfe0DaGQwqJrK AHrKSNw37wlIT6vRMNEqFBxEQxxFcEpv9Apq3F6SjZI/SKOdvQ/IIb7bFgQKtClsyA4K qyPX9NW/iY+8+hovkD3MSGV67FtzBHA6d+N9E= Message-ID: <4D9CDE37.3000904@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2011 23:42:15 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: my new love: PIGTRONIX ECHOLUTION (12 sec of delay looping) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108849 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 21:42:09 +0000 (UTC) Scott Hansen schrieb: > OMFingG--I LOVE THIS THING!!!!!! Hi Scott, I think you were also in that discussion (if not its main actor) when some time ago I asked about a proper PDS8000 alternative - so your review of the Pigtronix here is very interesting to me! Commenting on a few of your statements (based on what I found in the manual etc.): 1. price: just checked, the price here is 'round €480, which is about €150 more than a Digitech Time Bender, or €200 (or a little bit less than a Boss DD20) more than a used PDS8000 on ebay....just to put it into perspective. 2. delay time: just browsed the manual, and there's this statement in bold print: "maximum delay time in tap tempo mode is 20 seconds". So it seems that if you can do without the modulation things, then you have a little bit more of delay time. 3. delay time again: yes, there's times when I want a long loop - "long" as in "longer than 12s". However, most of the time the loops I completely fuck up with modulation are somewhat shorter, so while a longer delay time would have been nice, it's no showstopper for me - for longer loops, I got Möbius, anyway. 4. MIDI: doesn't have a MIDI jack, so I doubt it. 5. looping: the description of the loop switch has this statement in the manual: "Although the Echolution can be used as a stand-alone loop machine, you will get better results by this function in combination with a dedicated looping device." - Say what? 6. reverse: yes, it has a switch for it. Scott, can you describe what kind of "reverse" this is (looper-style: the playback changes when you flip the switch vs delay-style: the echoes always come out reverse by some tricky phrase guessing algorithm)? Perhaps I really need to get a new pedal after all... Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 7 00:45:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 486DC183486; Thu, 7 Apr 2011 00:45:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=oIv04XXdEYh2MbYuDfZqeaswiw9+RGe2txZblPR/Lr4= c=1 sm=1 a=F3mckHW-UxIA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=CNxbVC3+Q4TMjpjfeHDQxw==:17 a=50Cz1CyOAAAA:8 a=wIQpla_KI0fRTYPU7DYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=CNxbVC3+Q4TMjpjfeHDQxw==:117 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Live looping in band context(slightly OT) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 17:45:51 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108850 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 00:45:54 +0000 (UTC) Fun tracks Matt. But when did two under-five-minute tracks start amounting to an "album"? Not to pick nits, or complain, but I am curious. Is this a new trend that has totally blown past me 'cuz I'm an old geezer? Best, Ted On Apr 4, 2011, at 8:58 AM, Matthew Stevens wrote: > Hi guys > > This is my band project The Fierce And The Dead, the intro is an > ambient live loop that we tightened up later on :) > > http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/album/10x10 > > Matt Stevens From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 7 00:48:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 967B9183486; Thu, 7 Apr 2011 00:48:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Anybody looping... References: thread-topic: Anybody looping... thread-index: Acv0vXhS+dfPO9wRQVGDIKmpvZvV+Q== From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0843FBDE-139A-4AFA-AD5F-7B1675377980@1800dialword.com> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 20:48:05 -0400 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Apr 2011 00:48:35.0984 (UTC) FILETIME=[86EC9900:01CBF4BD] Resent-Message-ID: <9qP8Q.A.l9B.lnQnNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108851 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 00:48:37 +0000 (UTC) QW55IGxvb3BpbmcgaW4gQm9zdG9uIHRvbmlnaHQ/DQoNCkFuZHkgbw0KDQoNCk9uIEFwciA2LCAy MDExLCBhdCA4OjQ1IFBNLCB0RWQgwq4gS2lMTGlBbiA8dGVka2lsbGlhbkBjaGFydGVyLm5ldD4g d3JvdGU6DQoNCj4gRnVuIHRyYWNrcyBNYXR0Lg0KPiANCj4gQnV0IHdoZW4gZGlkIHR3byB1bmRl ci1maXZlLW1pbnV0ZSB0cmFja3Mgc3RhcnQgYW1vdW50aW5nIHRvIGFuICJhbGJ1bSI/DQo+IA0K PiBOb3QgdG8gcGljayBuaXRzLCBvciBjb21wbGFpbiwgYnV0IEkgYW0gY3VyaW91cy4NCj4gDQo+ IElzIHRoaXMgYSBuZXcgdHJlbmQgdGhhdCBoYXMgdG90YWxseSBibG93biBwYXN0IG1lICdjdXog SSdtIGFuIG9sZCBnZWV6ZXI/DQo+IA0KPiBCZXN0LA0KPiANCj4gVGVkDQo+IA0KPiBPbiBBcHIg NCwgMjAxMSwgYXQgODo1OCBBTSwgTWF0dGhldyBTdGV2ZW5zIHdyb3RlOg0KPiANCj4+IEhpIGd1 eXMNCj4+IA0KPj4gVGhpcyBpcyBteSBiYW5kIHByb2plY3QgVGhlIEZpZXJjZSBBbmQgVGhlIERl YWQsIHRoZSBpbnRybyBpcyBhbiBhbWJpZW50IGxpdmUgbG9vcCB0aGF0IHdlIHRpZ2h0ZW5lZCB1 cCBsYXRlciBvbiA6KQ0KPj4gDQo+PiBodHRwOi8vdGhlZmllcmNlYW5kdGhlZGVhZC5iYW5kY2Ft cC5jb20vYWxidW0vMTB4MTANCj4+IA0KPj4gTWF0dCBTdGV2ZW5zDQo+IA0K From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 7 02:35:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0928183453; Thu, 7 Apr 2011 02:35:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=iqzM7GH+PoLQ1Ob9bn7kMJuqBXP+wr0TCsMrGEyGvh4=; b=qVwX4XW7FgWt05l1gRK9pJEnvZ464qKtzD8CpIFxymTQSCoZ3H4hLVJUTa66S0rlTf bLI9TaF7+E/nONqoJFriJvk/G1bllV/bFYNVm3eupxX1WTdZIj4zvZ8OT+1Jdx91HXgo y41VFpIB8nJ0A9r35iju2vsQuf4emUjUzpDNY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=R8D6iFRcInfa7u53aXxwMMCDVWf/95LlJiH7aNc0tu6mqqK6gbMcAPaFBc4FGJTFUt TR93rqqE7HWtCGG1UYCFf02ck3RS64Lb8DlFydgU3E1LleMfzHYlDyohI9nIfhZG8KcL Rlb8UPhVkdnMFLxRDDAQ4JulWlbdoGyC4PtNs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 21:35:40 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Pigtronix Echolution From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f85ce0190f0704a04af73c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108852 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 02:35:41 +0000 (UTC) --001485f85ce0190f0704a04af73c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 "i always thought this looked like a really great pedal. i'm surprised it doesn't get more mentions in delay threads" i'm going to guess the COST is why it's not mentioned much. it's a $400+ pedal new. i'm sure most people get a lot of mileage out of their $150 delay pedals--i know i've gotten a lot of use out of the dl8, and the dd7 before and the tc flashback is a decent pedal also.... but the echolution....whew, for me....whiz-BANG as we say in our house.... plus it probably gets a lot of competition from the eventide timeline for the other expensive delay option out there... and the eventide name holds a lot of weight.... my guess at least.... s---- --001485f85ce0190f0704a04af73c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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i'm going to guess the COST is why it's not mentioned much. it= 's a $400+ pedal new.
i'm sure most people get a lot of mileage out of their $150 delay = pedals--i know i've gotten a lot of use out of the dl8, and the dd7 bef= ore
and the tc flashback is a decent pedal also....
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but the echolution....whew, for me....whiz-BANG as we say in our house= ....
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plus it probably gets a lot of competition from the eventide timeline = for the other expensive delay option out there...
and the eventide name holds a lot of weight....
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--001485f85ce0190f0704a04af73c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 7 06:38:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 245F9183486; Thu, 7 Apr 2011 06:38:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer; b=ULcnTU1bFmJCflOO0Iy3O3Spm9TA8OLqQWJ1d22gAtqppAiI+AJMEWmvUgR6L3XY98ToNkOsrDPXPPboXR9sVOs/s2TvWpDt0DzJ9CDKRS9lAwYZZIkDQzrTmm9yruxMjoai82+dlFv4DfDIlSJLKJpOk4xJH5XDRyxsJg2JiWU= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1302158279; bh=RcxQHTTzAi7LLE/owQ0GaBWlAbaYy9CqPk9xI6MFn7g=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer; b=YsysH1BcyWP7kVqpC/R93pdLk4qhZ9iZdAUwWBhV1SHLWeqA0IwlOSSM6bjdPpg58q93CFDSx0MR9j+ezZSPu56CGdu3AnnCKHaLh7klalkCj9OeL9yBfYynjS/p03tJKdTpIfsbaeR7yRUD5mX4cO2OhdsdaNNMydWPPXCtv9w= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: qO1Whi8VM1nbLZFa0E36neeOMMyEbaCYEcxp4SZEWWvwecX 13PZA4CtpfKTSKMFmid2TnvHPZM3geMu9BnBZ4jSpInGoDCw8Bla7S5Ergxa 6PGGscuR9xTy9A_tc1OA0X.EgfV8.IXyiFhDHWQ9rKIMBnHcqTmFMC41tl72 I1jCV49FQ1laZX9Jl8GkoHtpQog994agAZrEBvUMwqGeXwAoKxrKEvOz.61P BRJLQb8QZa5oaIZQntfI.CSz1tdcmRy9YY.crQ.xZSz4zmRM2Hu9BGbfERUy bD4IVnGfr.4BJ6NHBHB8o9zH.dPPEL3_qtQK_81f3bI9w_ZOKwoNpLuA21Cc - X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Live looping in band context(slightly OT) From: Matthew Stevens In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 07:37:59 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7A4B706E-B77E-4009-83AA-B70BB15DC281@btinternet.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108853 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 06:38:01 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Ted=20 Agreed, its not an album - its a single but Bandcamp don't have a way of = bundling 2 tracks as a single :) The album is out next month. On 7 Apr 2011, at 01:45, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > Fun tracks Matt. >=20 > But when did two under-five-minute tracks start amounting to an = "album"? >=20 > Not to pick nits, or complain, but I am curious. >=20 > Is this a new trend that has totally blown past me 'cuz I'm an old = geezer? >=20 > Best, >=20 > Ted >=20 > On Apr 4, 2011, at 8:58 AM, Matthew Stevens wrote: >=20 >> Hi guys >>=20 >> This is my band project The Fierce And The Dead, the intro is an = ambient live loop that we tightened up later on :) >>=20 >> http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/album/10x10 >>=20 >> Matt Stevens >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 7 08:09:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDBAA183486; Thu, 7 Apr 2011 08:09:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D9D7158.3000108@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2011 10:10:00 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: my new love: PIGTRONIX ECHOLUTION (12 sec of delay looping) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108854 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 08:09:02 +0000 (UTC) Sounds really cool, but damn, mono-in only.. :( Indeed, no MIDI. But I'm thinking it might be possible to add a feature connector of sorts, hook the pins to some of the most needed switches, and use something like an old Scholz Rockman Octopus (I have one) to control these switch options. Just an idea.. won't be my option due to the mono-only input. /van Scott Hansen wrote: > hey all-last friday i got my pigtronix echolution. i got it used after > getting rid of some stuff that i thought i wanted (a painful month of > trying out stuff) > anyway, i figure i spend a fair amt of time saying what i hate about > stuff, and slagging the loopers that didn't work for me, so it's > positive time: > > OMFingG--I LOVE THIS THING!!!!!! > > i have of course heard about these for a while, knew it had 12 sec of > delay and all, but it was way out of my budget range. > > but after selling stuff and having a bit of $$$-i got one, it's the most > i've ever spent on a pedal. > > and man-IT IS GREAT! > > 12 sec of delay-based loops. > pitchshifting and time stretching (think of what you've seen the pds8000 > could do--it's not exactly like that-but man, it's close for me).(it > also reminds me a bit of > my EH 16 DDL-better interface for me though.....although not as much > time delay option-but i never went very long on the 16 ddl-i don't think > i ever went to 16 sec!) > > it honestly reminds me of my old dod d12 (12 sec delay rack unit)--which > of course reminded me of a budget lexicon pcm 42 (the 19 sec of delay > looping that > david torn uses & abuses so well). > > the knobs are SO STURDY. it has a million switches for adding different > taps to the delays, and reverse, etc etc. > > for the 12 sec of looping that i like to use, it is amazing. > it also has chorus and tremolo options to add-sort of like adding a > modulation to the delays-in those modes-you can certainly get some > spacey delays-ambient heaven. > > and it has a switch for "loop". so you can have a gentle delay loop > degrading and hit that and it will lock that in and you can play over it. > i honestly don't think i've done as much looping as i have in the last 4 > days as i have w/ it. need to record stuff.... > > i tried to go through all the functions of it w/ the manual, man it > could take a lifetime, there are so many switches....but i will say the > thing i love is the > 12 sec of delay loops....and i can record a 2 or 3 sec short loop, turn > the delay time knob to slow it down...and MAN-instant stretched out > looped/texture madness... > honestly -it's better than what my old dod d12 could do.... > > i just love it..i know some people will probably say "12 sec? that's > all?" but for me that's all i need, and w/ the ability to stretch and > pitch shift, it's all i want...love it. > > the other side affect to it: it uses a 15 volt power supply, so w/ my > tele i detect a boost of signal, which honestly I ALSO LOVE. haven't > tried my HB guitar w/ it yet. & w/ the Florescent light in my studio, i > get some hum, but honestly--i don't care.... > > some may ask: does it have MIDI- answer: i honestly don't know, don't > care. i do know that it has an input for a passive volume to manipulate > the delay time-similar to > what DT could do w/ his pcm 42. i haven't used it though, i just do it > by hand w/ the knobs. love the knobs & switches. > i can honestly say that after, what 4 yrs of searching i found the tool > that i love and can use..... > over and out.... > and now back to your software looping discussion...which is another > realm well out of my knowledge base.....(ha)...... > s---- -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 7 17:03:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE54F183486; Thu, 7 Apr 2011 17:03:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Trl3r1U+MxZl4T1+MY2U/oqoaCdJDuRXGqpJxgnCubU=; b=ipXqw2JY4JHTBJrkeGolG9InnNeQzpmQaRXDjAVg2oogA9utUi7HMym6vvSSr2z1PV acc67dYoxFAxi2gH3jyDwkRZWeyvmbEEHArcPIj2eAFtrlzZLWAbI4XbEO2rx901Od5H czGPIO1RbgIVlUNLCprT70zMBbx3fTvEY6IKc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=S8PSr1wNc/GTpo1dqet7iPOeMytu+Xm1wTU+0p9WZyDNL5R2XlrD8T194j/rt4nboy Ir9qBZs8G1LXo2Qs4GDHFfgw8TEb+I6gs6HwqM/oAxVafi6AXpumrZZtZGHPVcGvr3O4 C0t7s1nKr/EgGRKivCuGX6PB2TMngc5XenlJU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 10:03:15 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Live looping in band context(slightly OT) From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <6M4lwC.A.ZbE.V5enNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108855 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 17:03:17 +0000 (UTC) That's something that bandcamp does. Either your songs are free-floating entities on your band's page, or they are in albums. They don't have tools yet to group songs as EPs or non-album live performances. --=20 Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt tEd =AE KiLLiAn was all: > Fun tracks Matt. (A different Matt, by the way) > > But when did two under-five-minute tracks start amounting to an "album"? > > Not to pick nits, or complain, but I am curious. > > Is this a new trend that has totally blown past me 'cuz I'm an old geezer= ? > > Best, > > Ted > > On Apr 4, 2011, at 8:58 AM, Matthew Stevens wrote: > >> Hi guys >> >> This is my band project The Fierce And The Dead, the intro is an ambient >> live loop that we tightened up later on :) >> >> http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/album/10x10 >> >> Matt Stevens > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 7 17:39:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69490183486; Thu, 7 Apr 2011 17:39:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=olO0K4+NmGZbSH8jNMwLXWhSd2mF6YOAK2jiIJpAw+8=; b=nJc2NR8Ll2qqDIn21R/kkx98FrFYdUm9VstDozibrbqBXSWjZ6LN9SROwSpn1o5BgF BWJnh4BAa5y381ZZ+SI6U4F1DjHqbv/F5J+z9z++vqeOKx7/VzKmfciLVi6RU7u6wk1Q QFBybaFgdr3SaRkXOW80DjgnyhI/KzQU0PpME= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=D8pLRmmbaHwUCvFFXaksSExCo/pMjKhUCyVX+oE+EYZRpPMTiAdYEb11V1YS1xvZ/A oqSjqIvN1pE5BoqEU+b1eOHrWDzQbsBqVnrfKhfmgzUOkzEIChfwTVnWqy2GrLN0etZV UUUkYC5zqksK3xdWWJ/cBE8qB3YVd/6uKf6I0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 12:39:38 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Live looping in band context(slightly OT) (45?) From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd32988f6f35e04a057974f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108856 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 17:39:41 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd32988f6f35e04a057974f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable theoretically-wouldn't this be a 45? 2 tracks put on the smaller vinyl album, there's an "A" side (main single) and the "B" side-the lesser-throwaway in old music biz terms? ahhhhh. the 45...my younger bro had lots of 45s back in the 70s: heart baracuda, kc & sunshine band: im your boogie man....i think he had others, those were th= e main ones we listened to!!! ha! s--- Thanks Ted Agreed, its not an album - its a single but Bandcamp don't have a way of bundling 2 tracks as a single :) The album is out next month. On 7 Apr 2011, at 01:45, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > Fun tracks Matt. > > But when did two under-five-minute tracks start amounting to an "album"? > > Not to pick nits, or complain, but I am curious. > > Is this a new trend that has totally blown past me 'cuz I'm an old >geezer? > > Best, > > Ted > > On Apr 4, 2011, at 8:58 AM, Matthew Stevens wrote: > >> Hi guys >> >> This is my band project The Fierce And The Dead, the intro is an >ambient live loop that we tightened up later on :) >> >> http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/album/10x10 >> >> Matt Stevens > --000e0cd32988f6f35e04a057974f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable theoretically-wouldn't this be a 45? 2 tracks put on the smaller vinyl = album, there's an "A" side (main single) and the "B"= ; side-the lesser-throwaway in old music biz terms?
ahhhhh.
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Thanks Ted 

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The album is out next month.

On 7 Apr 2011, at 01:45, =
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> Fun tracks Matt.
> 
> But when did two under-five-minu=
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> 
> Not to =
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> 
> Is this a new tr=
end that has totally blown past me 'cuz I'm an old 

>geezer?
> 
> Best,
> 
> Ted
> 
> On=
 Apr 4, 2011, at 8:58 AM, Matthew Stevens wrote:
> 
>> Hi gu=
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>> 
>> This is my band project The Fierce And The Dead=
, the intro is an 

>ambient live loop that we tightened up later on :)
>> 
>=
> http:/=
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>> 
>> =
Matt Stevens

>

--000e0cd32988f6f35e04a057974f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 7 20:31:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EDD2E183486; Thu, 7 Apr 2011 20:31:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nORLmdVm+8UY9yHIu8hLw9Y4ByMpB7woxEw4IGLUU0k=; b=iKNjFXV9iVqxTc7i3IrJYC+Dyjx9jl7k316X3dyXulcHHHc44iDBmswv5TVVH7tyUd LU9rCRG7dzTzBWcHR9xFXnnjlxMJVojZbJ+DH3lq8j5DeUpiNw/XwZonOPfxSgY2/2dH Xl0tLLwtknj6nWWt1FCzwirPNPK03y1Lp1dgA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=pFOtb4YuEFJi45JO5LMkb8i3bn/XnZIE3hFfVQAQkUvndlSw3NfWqeDOpWlqBQ03WF 8HKxwD+0r0S22A8ejnbYUQQkEiM1uoqzF1fVDRzWWRCoxxjzJPNN6Y0Ig7eRQlIBQmWq mPNgyTpcHEDgRcMTRMUAGXG6x6zQ7h9MCu4pg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 13:31:25 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: (Way OT) (45?) From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108857 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 20:31:26 +0000 (UTC) Online, I see releases as Albums, EPs and Singles. I think something's only called a 45 if it's on a 7" vinyl. My favorite 45 as a kid was Warren Zevon "Werewolves of London" - though my sister and I preferred to listen to it at 33 rpm. I miss the days of CD singles, where they'd often be 30 to 40 minutes long with several different versions of the song. This makes me sound dated, but I really liked all the weird versions of NIN's "Closer" that were on the cd single. --=20 Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Scott Hansen wrote: > theoretically-wouldn't this be a 45? 2 tracks put on the smaller vinyl > album, there's an "A" side (main single) and the "B" side-the > lesser-throwaway in old music biz terms? > ahhhhh. > the 45...my younger bro had lots of 45s back in the 70s: heart baracuda, = kc > & sunshine band: im your boogie man....i think he had others, those were = the > main ones we listened to!!! > ha! > s--- > > Thanks Ted > > Agreed, its not an album - its a single but Bandcamp don't have a way of > bundling 2 tracks as a single :) > > The album is out next month. > > On 7 Apr 2011, at 01:45, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > > >> Fun tracks Matt. >> >> But when did two under-five-minute tracks start amounting to an "album"? >> >> Not to pick nits, or complain, but I am curious. >> >> Is this a new trend that has totally blown past me 'cuz I'm an old > >>geezer? >> >> Best, >> >> Ted >> >> On Apr 4, 2011, at 8:58 AM, Matthew Stevens wrote: >> >>> Hi guys >>> >>> This is my band project The Fierce And The Dead, the intro is an > >>ambient live loop that we tightened up later on :) >>> >>> http://thefierceandthedead.bandcamp.com/album/10x10 >>> >>> Matt Stevens > >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 7 20:37:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BCE84183486; Thu, 7 Apr 2011 20:37:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. 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Clint Allen On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 4:37 PM, wrote: > > I will be out of the office starting 04/07/2011 and will not return until > 04/12/2011. > > For telecom, Audio or Video issues, contact Greg Bouffard @ 323 932 3793 > > ***** PLEASE NOTE ***** This E-Mail/telefax message and any > documents accompanying this transmission may contain privileged > and/or confidential information and is intended solely for the > addressee(s) named above. If you are not the intended > addressee/recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of, > disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on the contents of > this E-Mail/telefax information is strictly prohibited and may > result in legal action against you. Please reply to the sender > advising of the error in transmission and immediately > delete/destroy the message and any accompanying documents. Thank > you.***** > > -- Clint E. 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I will be out of the office starting =A004/07/2011 and will not return unti= l
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you take too many dam vacations. I need some insurance!

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Subject: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office.
From: peter.leinhos@f= armersinsurance.com
Date: Thu, April 07, 2011 4:37 pm
To: Loopers-Delight@= loopers-delight.com


I will be out of the office starting 04/07/2011 and will not return until<= br> 04/12/2011.

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 7 21:36:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3D8418349D; Thu, 7 Apr 2011 21:36:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 487 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 21:36:38 UTC X-CMAE-OUT-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=mXy1YRi3riaWCpSVShZWY86/vqc+Vy7k+S6n1uycyYw= c=1 sm=1 a=sbs2_ZMNFVcA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=y2GRA3hg_Y-nAAeeB1oA:9 a=It8RkMM8dDwlksAPzDgA:7 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=bIpfiZevh8TQWWqcgQ8Vuw==:117 X-CMAE-OUT-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <20110407172233.18485@web006.nyc1.bluetie.com> X-HTTP-Received: from bryanhelm.4000003588 [8.24.61.123] by web002.nyc1.bluetie.com (BlueTie WebMail ); Thu, 07 Apr 2011 17:24:09 -0400 X-Mailer: BlueTie MTA Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2011 17:24:09 -0400 Cc: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Bryan Helm" Importance: normal Subject: Way OT- 45 Fun Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108862 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 21:36:38 +0000 (UTC) For the record (sorry), if you take the 45 RPM single of Rod Stewart and the= Faces playing "Stay With Me" and play it at 331/3 RPM instead, you can tran= sform Rod the Mod into a 350 pound black man. It's fun kids, give it a try. = bryan helm = (currently casing P.Leinhos' hacienda while he's out o= f town,as a possible site for a future = = loopfest called "Out of the Office", we'll video it= and leave him a DVD to enjoy upon his = = return, cause we're nice guys) = = = From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 7 21:44:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE37818349D; Thu, 7 Apr 2011 21:44:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dKIA9KJ9g+IuiBkax4MNuGXkFFvAoEjC+fyPAsgRqAY=; b=L4RuRi+VpzqeT3IOGtbDh6HOu71DnXoviogcAtH239XfTsUs56d5Em0uP3fng632Qc ImsaAXQP0ZdBi110EeFBS9nQWEcRHekX69EMeIWQCTN3XwZA+VkXAJHaO4AxB20nlikX DsAoDtL+FiWmJF4KxydwkL4NajMpvLv6mekUc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=b92zrLqWR0U/daXjoXDIQaod/YcfohwqBqPkwwjY5MmOS2VWsehFetj19rS2kus13Z MuES927dFZtxxr10L9tWMdZmOIG+mTLwp0FP5QkQWXSDVPqUj7PnEtt3S8h/Jd5V+Wsb H68wfGryTf7mrPX39uov2YKy9qFWwZI0GcIOE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 16:44:12 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032555450e8f853a04a05b0269 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108863 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 21:44:14 +0000 (UTC) --00032555450e8f853a04a05b0269 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Okay, here's the deal.... There are two ways this could work. First there are places like customink.com that I used for the design I posted awhile back. They only deal with one entity, so all orders would have to funnel through one person who has the responsibility of paying for everything, recieving the shipment, then repacking and and mailing them all over the world. The advantage is that you can get volume discounts. The unit price will be around $20 for under 5 pieces, $12 for over 10 pieces, $9 for over 20 pieces, etc. The other way are places like CafePress.com where you can create a "store" that sells a certain design and then people can individually order that design in the style and color they want. The per-unit cost will be higher here but it is much less of a hassle. I haven't gone through their pricing structure, but I would guess it will be between $25 to $30 per shirt depending on style without shipping. The good news is that you could also have it printed on a onesie if you so desired. Thoughts? Jeff On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Clint Allen wrote: > Once and for all, who is making the T-shirt for this???? > > Clint Allen > > --00032555450e8f853a04a05b0269 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Okay, here's the deal....

= There are two ways this could work.=A0
First there are places lik= e customink.com that I used for the de= sign I
posted awhile back. =A0They only deal with one entity, so all orders
would have to funnel through one person who has the
resp= onsibility of paying for everything, recieving the shipment, then
repacking and and mailing them all over the world. =A0The advantage is
that you can get volume discounts. =A0The unit price will be around $= 20
for under 5 pieces, $12 for over 10 pieces, $9 for over 20 pie= ces,
etc.

The other way are places like CafePress.= com where you can create a
"store" that sells a certain= design and then people can individually
order that design in the= style and color they want. =A0The per-unit cost
will be higher here but it is much less of a hassle. =A0I haven't = gone
through their pricing structure, but I would guess it will b= e between
$25 to $30 per shirt depending on style without shippin= g. =A0The
good news is that you could also have it printed on a onesie if you
so desired.

Thoughts?
Jeff
=


On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:39 P= M, Clint Allen <clint.allen@gmail.com> wrote:
Once and for all, who is making the T-shirt= for this????=A0

Clint Allen

--00032555450e8f853a04a05b0269-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 7 22:00:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C5FA183449; Thu, 7 Apr 2011 22:00:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; bh=wi5ezxHulKzItZQij+Hgpk3JygIDVwUv/O6KYUJDnJs=; b=D/lncSEyU+znm3HYDuFSv+OD679+5wtXunzICki1JeEW7qLJ4O5j8iGjID1e83/d5A 0JJDimyzJeAiC0ml2SMUwpGSXw6AolcJXUqznKbP7VgBlmMrNQFtkIjy622NxnSZ7iBI ApmShK7KizmFS1CAt6whQFOzEw45eWgKDBytc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=YeUYZPmu5NktALzlAlVU//h3unWH2xUS2kmR+1jMn3VeX9JSxJq/pdQUjnk9L08Meu Y6qu3MItYKz6sdII7qa9Hn/GvbaKTVqTf25HufRrTWIRc7ty+/TpA5OqNJk97ZfPGoow dAmfQ5ZSyRNdOZ1ZYGivHv2A7JisS9vqK0pbY= Message-Id: <7C10F100-E978-46D1-B26F-3ADE81D88147@gmail.com> From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 14:59:53 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108864 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 22:00:04 +0000 (UTC) On Apr 7, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > The other way are places like CafePress.com where you can create a > "store" that sells a certain design I was not impressed with the quality of the Cafepress t-shirts. I did not check all available product such as the "organic" or "made in the usa" but the ones I did try seemed cheap and shrink a lot. This was a few years ago so perhaps they have upgraded. Anyway, fyi. regards BobC From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 7 23:26:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 731F5183486; Thu, 7 Apr 2011 23:26:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D9E483D.1040305@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2011 19:26:53 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108865 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 23:26:57 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long Special Focus on Ombient. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Ombient" a self-released title. For details, See the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#apr You will also hear music from artists playing at upcoming area concerts. Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org/listen on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 8 02:30:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D7A818349D; Fri, 8 Apr 2011 02:30:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <71176DA8-0E74-42C2-B8A1-DD646C46D40A@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: new loop strategy Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 19:30:00 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108866 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 02:30:08 +0000 (UTC) Hey Andy B et all, The way I built that track now that i analyze it, actually didn't use the first set of long scripts for creating forms out of individual tracks, but it did use the group select scripts, though I built my tracks in the following flow. I first created a master track on track 1 but with out any content, in essence a blank loop that i recorded just prior to beginning the improv. Then after a bit of introductory melodic playing I started to record using a quantize replace preset set to a factor of 16, until I built up a percolating sus 2 chord sequence as my I chord, and proceeded to play thematically over that, as I armed track 2 by pressing a play/stop preset ( arming sets the track to the same length as the master track), at which point I started to recorded another sus 2 chord a perfect fourth above the original I chord on my new track, Using the same kind of quantize technique. As soon as I had enough of a percolating quantized IV chord going i stopped that track again allowing the original I chord to play unaccompanied. I moved on to track 3 created a V chord, and then track 4 was my IV chord track repeating the same procedure as above, and finally on track 5 i recorded a rhythm part that would play no matter which of the other tracks I chose, because as I stated before, tracks 5-8 are included on each of my 4 groups. Then I started playing with the form using the group buttons to switch chord was my tonal center. In the building of each track i obeyed the rules of not making the chord too complex leaving more room for my melody playing to fill in the extensions. I tend to avoid stating the 3rd of a given chord when developing these kinds of loops to give myself some leeway to modulate hence the G sus 2 tuning i was using. When I try to explain a strategy like this i always feel like I'm leaving some detail out that will leave people scratching their heads, which is why I get frustrated sometimes trying to explain this stuff:-) Thanks for the feedback and kind words Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 8 02:32:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E6FC3183453; Fri, 8 Apr 2011 02:32:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hoxYtRfi6hletpRX+QjBO9kqfQXwDpHkT/AGSe0Xk78=; b=LLp/vW7D3wDDHOKAqpFOhQqCV57yJ0aOAb7T7uzZO2aqJfp9Z0HrwJV+zEAmQkvWpI V0/7DJosgQBHNyJ+eX7WNBl4vU9t3NoCLFBHSHm97R4LfhjcSkdRggpqrLCgPHuTsiUZ QW6Gkk5F4dwz2Y3+XlHu6NNop+tKKkqsUSNNY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Tn9OOSZwAxc2Om6XyT1SUIViSn5rSDU1O6ULnAd0sWD2OGzyYCCXvIY77Cy/abbe/e 9JCj+lhcpL0qY3L7i3wi3EkPsSr8t5tumDsL1JLCUOELYVWThlWfVf5WJ+xKro0JOlfx Yg6NLyLo9g0Rm0rAq2CyOVeO+tN1KSXjrD8G0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7C10F100-E978-46D1-B26F-3ADE81D88147@gmail.com> References: <7C10F100-E978-46D1-B26F-3ADE81D88147@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 22:32:52 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. From: james fowler To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108867 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 02:32:53 +0000 (UTC) I'll pony up 12 bucks for a shirt. - jim On Thursday, April 7, 2011, RP Collier wrote: > > On Apr 7, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > > > The other way are places like CafePress.com where you can create a > "store" that sells a certain design > > > I was not impressed with the quality of the Cafepress t-shirts. I did not check all available product such as the "organic" or "made in the usa" but the ones I did try seemed cheap and shrink a lot. > This was a few years ago so perhaps they have upgraded. > > Anyway, fyi. > > regards > BobC > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 8 02:45:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D37318349C; Fri, 8 Apr 2011 02:45:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=sICHEAVYcnWmB5VtKys3LE2otkBGeUHTp/WE3UpxAnA=; b=u9EfPSlsIzmcfdQS16/kizcv9kL/9bOPhjMZUEfM4O/UW4jeqFIiOQRmiSeYsNxL+9 gV/Tj07SidcO+AACPj6DRZKfNMw7ApHfefNTXzLVmlbkOpCj1CazoImVSz+84BV0UZe4 ukO5Jhxx54nvnfyGm/rDhffiplv+N9m9jzN8E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QYl/Az6N1y4LemBMVas3bcq0rNlkRn5kiIWSZ+CkeAs3fnqWRNqwrJBK9AAT+ukCjF XQ6mc8w/lv5agg2hz5Jvd9G1Bke6Qbsn0LW/wZ9d3AGjO8NjLzmm3KSrc7eovNXmQ3gI ehl9rwNljyK9XhPbNaQyi9xWPuCrkwOexURTk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 19:45:28 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Jeff Larson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108868 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 02:45:30 +0000 (UTC) Hi Jeff, My recommendation would be to save yourself some trouble and just put it up on cafepress. For the record, I'm in either way. On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Jeff Larson wro= te: > > Okay, here's the deal.... > There are two ways this could work. > First there are places like customink.com that I used for the design I > posted awhile back. =A0They only deal with one entity, so all orders > would have to funnel through one person who has the > responsibility of paying for everything, recieving the shipment, then > repacking and and mailing them all over the world. =A0The advantage is > that you can get volume discounts. =A0The unit price will be around $20 > for under 5 pieces, $12 for over 10 pieces, $9 for over 20 pieces, > etc. > The other way are places like CafePress.com where you can create a > "store" that sells a certain design and then people can individually > order that design in the style and color they want. =A0The per-unit cost > will be higher here but it is much less of a hassle. =A0I haven't gone > through their pricing structure, but I would guess it will be between > $25 to $30 per shirt depending on style without shipping. =A0The > good news is that you could also have it printed on a onesie if you > so desired. > Thoughts? > Jeff > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Clint Allen wrote= : >> >> Once and for all, who is making the T-shirt for this???? >> Clint Allen > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 8 03:40:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA40618349C; Fri, 8 Apr 2011 03:40:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_K=F6ln_Loopfest_2011?= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 20:40:24 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108869 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 03:40:31 +0000 (UTC) what a great line up, wish I could have been there. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 8 05:57:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41383183486; Fri, 8 Apr 2011 05:57:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: David Gans In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 22:57:09 -0700 Cc: David Gans Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <5E753942-605C-4809-A60D-F7CBA83726A8@trufun.com> References: <7C10F100-E978-46D1-B26F-3ADE81D88147@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108870 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 05:57:11 +0000 (UTC) I'm in for a shirt, too. I know several t-shirt printers here in California; I could get some quotes. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 8 06:54:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C976183486; Fri, 8 Apr 2011 06:54:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0IftwY+cCMxxLJ8coT0s7dgo5MAdScqCNYJsxQBZ5ss=; b=vTAKd2B2FzVwK8p/gDliQMDs79EQhvSZjkWJ4nuhAT/pYaGGIoSEcEFeWi8HV38XQj adwOT9t+8tT2oaMJYJdyDCNdsw9zaa1S9Z2FrDSW7AOehFYqrnC0eEF9K+MDbrfLcmwY 4FbkE9SUM1WRuNh5iiEt0hUOPFvlIEjGcweos= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=RqwkZD5cyZirlajLz5EdW2iCMcnSxyKgxP/pff60cf4rBRjfCiUmjd1XtQd1hrxm8n hN9Sd5VYDw4MKTXplzgv5CEn6D7HRw+cAnIgxZxmqmaCer+A4RywjYk5IJfa+97Q8Xhk Xfe1CRrfNo7QcVJC9hes/AmTLeeuVaqsEUXvM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <5E753942-605C-4809-A60D-F7CBA83726A8@trufun.com> References: <7C10F100-E978-46D1-B26F-3ADE81D88147@gmail.com> <5E753942-605C-4809-A60D-F7CBA83726A8@trufun.com> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 08:53:59 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: PT2mlVpC7vY6zTLAVSxSDQmRBdk Message-ID: Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108871 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 06:54:00 +0000 (UTC) If you look closely at the photos/video of the Koln loopfest, you'll see I'm wearing such a shirt! I had it done at spreadshirt.com. Would be happy to share the design. cheers, os. On 8 April 2011 07:57, David Gans wrote: > > > I'm in for a shirt, too. > > I know several t-shirt printers here in California; I could get some quotes. > > > > -- os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 8 11:33:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69D51183449; Fri, 8 Apr 2011 11:33:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=mnpBK515mrIoX4xGl0G+y0o4A9+5UU49k0qPsOq95k8=; b=YHsI6ofFroTokUutiPgOkS4o3ppZu8ljskTI3nKliNHM5x6HghMtbQf5YrpP8SYUzo aRxws5W1LecuPSBGGhz9dQ0h/4tg1jy+t1yklbtfATtEu8P7adqTdtU+kmCNVOSOnGVV R3ICPA5bAdSn++MOrHttnV6D3yuI9j/Jm/HTE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=xTBzcAqUTk3sDLsE19QUkcjWnSFFchDBZUwjhcj/3qq/nQM2ZAHs5QhRNV5XLTIlyk FJB/KZa+1AhhMUErg2Qwt4cOR24sN6mr81IKiIKKVFX781sXQabemhA7AXuJN3t+zIVX lu8VaisQumONGuVJI/MtKaqBsF5uW4MzpR3l4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D9C367E.0@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 21:33:55 +1000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Tomy Levin live looping From: Samplehead To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Louie Angulo Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8faae1793804a0669907 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108872 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 11:33:57 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8faae1793804a0669907 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That high melody sounds like a famous soundtrack, I just can't quite recall what it was On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > wow i could have swore that was a cello patch from a synth,im impressed! > Luis > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > > Two other listeners over at the Stick forum report having seen him do > > this live with a volume pedal. That makes us three. I think the "bow > > sound" in the early stage of each bass note is the distortion, as it > > comes out when there is no string plucking sound left in the note > > attack. Levin is also known for using a lot of compression on the > > Stick (easily spotted on Elephant Talk by Crimson). > > > > However - there really is an awesome effect patch that makes a Stick > > bass (or normal electric bass) sound like a warm buzzing fretless > > double bass: The Digitech BP8 set to a patch using its "fretless > > simulator". Sound example here: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ2MP8wacIE > > > > Pedal image here: > > http://www.bonesweb.com/Bobbybones/Images/bp8_lrg.jpg > > > > Per > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > >>> Per Boysen wrote: > >>>> > >>>> No synth used there. He loops a fast arpeggio played on the melody > >>>> side and then he plays long notes on the bass side going though some > >>>> distortion effect. > >>> > >> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:46 AM, andy butler > wrote: > >>> At times there's a really realistic rasp sound > >>> like a bowed double bass...so it would be interesting to know > >>> exactly which distortion fx is being used. > >>> (there's also a slow attack to help the effect) > >>> > >> > >> Indeed! I remember someone posted what fx that was on the Stick forum, > >> but this morning I was too busy running out on a field job to check it > >> out. Will post back here if I can find it. > >> > >> Per > >> > > > > > > > > -- > www.luis-angulo.com > > --90e6ba6e8faae1793804a0669907 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That high melody sounds like a famous soundtrack, I just can't quite re= call what it was

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7= :12 AM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
wow i could have swore that was a cello pat= ch from a synth,im impressed!
Luis

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Two other listeners over at the Stick forum report having seen him do<= br> > this live with a volume pedal. That makes us three. I think the "= bow
> sound" in the early stage of each bass note is the distortion, as= it
> comes out when there is no string plucking sound left in the note
> attack. Levin is also known for using a lot of compression on the
> Stick (easily spotted on Elephant Talk by Crimson).
>
> However - there really is an awesome effect patch that makes a Stick > bass (or normal electric bass) sound like a warm buzzing fretless
> double bass: The Digitech BP8 set to a patch using its "fretless<= br> > simulator". Sound example here:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DZJ2MP8wacIE
>
> Pedal image here:
> http://www.bonesweb.com/Bobbybones/Images/bp8_lrg.jpg
>
> Per
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Per Boysen wrote:
>>>>
>>>> No synth used there. He loops a fast arpeggio played on th= e melody
>>>> side and then he plays long notes on the bass side going t= hough some
>>>> distortion effect.
>>>
>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:46 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>>> At times there's a really realistic rasp sound
>>> like a bowed double bass...so it would be interesting to know<= br> >>> exactly which distortion fx is being used.
>>> (there's also a slow attack to help the effect)
>>>
>>
>> Indeed! I remember someone posted what fx that was on the Stick fo= rum,
>> but this morning I was too busy running out on a field job to chec= k it
>> out. Will post back here if I can find it.
>>
>> Per
>>
>
>



--
www.luis-angulo.co= m


--90e6ba6e8faae1793804a0669907-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 8 12:48:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 95B9C183486; Fri, 8 Apr 2011 12:48:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D9F0428.6000000@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2011 08:48:40 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #731 for April 7, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108873 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 12:48:45 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/110407.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #731 April 7, 2011. RECAP: On this show, I began a month-long focus on Ombient. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Ombient" which is self-released. I also played music by artists who will be playing upcoming area concerts at The Gathering and at the Soundscapes Concert Series. See details at the events page. Ombient: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#apr Events: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/events.html PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Vic Hennegan Desert Island DesertGod (Space for Music) jeffrey Koepper Part 1 Quadranteon (AirSpace) Michael Peck Debris from a Glacial (Gears of Sand) Thousand Landscapes Michael Peck Ghost Psalm Glacial (Gears of Sand) The Glimmer Room The View from the A Diaray of Occurrences (A- Summerhouse Frame Media) Ombient Sleep Ombient (none) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Ombient Threshold Ombient (none) Ombient Fragments Ombient (none) Ombient Unfold Ombient (none) Ombient Resound Ombient (none) Ombient Niemuth Ombient (none) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Ombient. The Featured CD at Midnight will be " X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BEC35183486; Fri, 8 Apr 2011 13:13:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1302268397-0368bc378556c4b0001-hGRpYp X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: HDean@wcupa.edu X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 144.26.0.89 X-ASG-Whitelist: Client From: "Dean, Hal" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: RE: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. Thread-Topic: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. X-ASG-Orig-Subj: RE: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. Thread-Index: AQHL9evugLU8/2J8rUWOFUhL/ypiEpRT8GCQ Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 13:13:16 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.28.73.115] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Barracuda-Connect: wcu-xch-05.wcupa.edu[144.26.0.89] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1302268397 X-Barracuda-Encrypted: AES128-SHA X-Barracuda-URL: http://SPAMCONTROL.WCUPA.EDU:80/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at WCUPA.EDU Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108874 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 13:13:19 +0000 (UTC) Perhaps a new design for this could be about what horror arises from those = when Mr. Leinhos is IN the office. Is he using Mobius and some home-brewed = VSTs to dominate the world behind the scenes? Has he used SooperLooper in A= bleton Live to put the entire planet... or just LD?... in a chronic hyster= esis loop? Come to think of it, has anyone looked at the frequency of these messages? = Are they part of a VERY long loop? Are there little loops running inside? Hal=20 -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Stevens [mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 4:43 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. Very much a comforting message. All is OK with the world. On 7 Apr 2011, at 21:37, peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com wrote: >=20 > I will be out of the office starting 04/07/2011 and will not return=20 > until 04/12/2011. >=20 > For telecom, Audio or Video issues, contact Greg Bouffard @ 323 932=20 > 3793 >=20 > ***** PLEASE NOTE ***** This E-Mail/telefax message and any documents=20 > accompanying this transmission may contain privileged and/or=20 > confidential information and is intended solely for the > addressee(s) named above. If you are not the intended=20 > addressee/recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of,=20 > disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on the contents of this=20 > E-Mail/telefax information is strictly prohibited and may result in=20 > legal action against you. Please reply to the sender advising of the=20 > error in transmission and immediately delete/destroy the message and=20 > any accompanying documents. Thank > you.***** >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 8 13:46:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 741A7183449; Fri, 8 Apr 2011 13:46:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uYKLGifKt3+HAblDzCXF4jrLZZlMJoL0d9Efhr873kg=; b=TC8BCBJ1mNZAONXFaSYzhQ8GLqrja3Rvk8pUxjkv9FkuF/H6z9N5iShRmBQGkpSlez 4rVi1dHmMoIJ7rGbveFYc24J1ZTkfd0JAAhxoSgCrMKFWt3qIxhG0RILqoVzudtyFDXo 7j5Ad/mwTE1QyitoUNrs7Hsk13E6OxAtatpmQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=N46WVHSltmmX5YWKqS42vagnkBzjxmYTfKgnZtki7k37bE9EcmdGcS4CP7QtmPzMH6 UEBcDlPGoFvIMeI8xyLLCv+YpwjEjvjAdCIvc/j1UOH/VbiITqHgUbWC/x2c4WShSAQE 7Rxkqr1N5yS8OFSLBlGbjOPPDy1ADmoUYvEog= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 09:46:32 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108875 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 13:46:34 +0000 (UTC) Peter Leinhos may be looping us into LD threads using only his all-powerful out-of-office command... I wonder what foot controller he's using to trigger it. Sylvain On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Dean, Hal wrote: > Perhaps a new design for this could be about what horror arises from thos= e when Mr. Leinhos is IN the office. Is he using Mobius and some home-brewe= d VSTs to dominate the world behind the scenes? Has he used SooperLooper in= Ableton Live to put the entire planet... or just LD?... =A0in a chronic hy= steresis loop? > > Come to think of it, has anyone looked at the frequency of these messages= ? Are they part of a VERY long loop? Are there little loops running inside? > > Hal > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Stevens [mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 4:43 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. > > Very much a comforting message. All is OK with the world. > > On 7 Apr 2011, at 21:37, peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com wrote: > >> >> I will be out of the office starting =A004/07/2011 and will not return >> until 04/12/2011. >> >> For telecom, Audio or Video issues, =A0contact Greg Bouffard @ 323 932 >> 3793 >> >> ***** PLEASE NOTE ***** This E-Mail/telefax message and any documents >> accompanying this transmission may contain privileged and/or >> confidential information and is intended solely for the >> addressee(s) named above. If you are not the intended >> addressee/recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of, >> disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on the contents of this >> E-Mail/telefax information is strictly prohibited and may result in >> legal action against you. Please reply to the sender advising of the >> error in transmission and immediately delete/destroy the message and >> any accompanying documents. Thank >> you.***** >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 8 13:51:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9623183486; Fri, 8 Apr 2011 13:51:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/T89s7Z0EDjPveYeeddgEurfoLusOAKmf8/HP5paVR0=; b=HesyZlyOayjWcJmVPlUztfxooXftw6ECy471sqA5iKD1inKFochDTZDMzkoI8K7/3C mnaJXQV3bFTLSvMJwoBuljmDM27sokEBBxk2ObEQfbdKRzyVss1lpVl0MeJZKrhKkPlb 1PA2r+D4WM+2BJ5BHFVaazqrEhL9ARj6BqcRw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=cGc+svR4yRLeQmABTB95lKwBNsHm1sDhKtTOjIHNMQwmcQ8736LVCOrIUds4rEDZ8G Fp72CmQPuFJPLP88MQ61ZAhASKgzhYlBwpp5Okf7REZDTlvsQvnJgdwsyjjlEi+pBbFw xfaqk6UJ+erm9drPVo8txL1p7R4Qzh3hTCdlI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D9F0428.6000000@soundscapes.us> References: <4D9F0428.6000000@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 09:51:48 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Galactic Travels Playlist #731 for April 7, 2011. From: Tim Clement To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307cfc68fb550504a0688659 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108876 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 13:51:49 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307cfc68fb550504a0688659 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Have you played of Danna and Clement, the brilliant Canadian looping duo? Would love to hear something form *North of Niagara, Summerland, A Gradual Awakening*, or *The Best of D&C* . On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Bill Fox wrote: > http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/110407.html > > Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that > airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, > PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville > and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts > in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. > > Show #731 April 7, 2011. > > RECAP: > On this show, I began a month-long focus on Ombient. The Featured CD at > Midnight was "Ombient" which is self-released. > > I also played music by artists who will be playing upcoming area > concerts at The Gathering and at the Soundscapes Concert Series. See > details at the events page. > > Ombient: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#apr > Events: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/events.html > > PLAYLIST: > > 11:04 pm > ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) > ==================== ==================== ============================== > Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) > Vic Hennegan Desert Island DesertGod (Space for Music) > jeffrey Koepper Part 1 Quadranteon (AirSpace) > Michael Peck Debris from a Glacial (Gears of Sand) > Thousand Landscapes > Michael Peck Ghost Psalm Glacial (Gears of Sand) > The Glimmer Room The View from the A Diaray of Occurrences (A- > Summerhouse Frame Media) > Ombient Sleep Ombient (none) > > 12:00 am > ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) > ==================== ==================== ============================== > Ombient Threshold Ombient (none) > Ombient Fragments Ombient (none) > Ombient Unfold Ombient (none) > Ombient Resound Ombient (none) > Ombient Niemuth Ombient (none) > > 1:00 am > > * = excerpt > VA = Various Artists (compilation) > ++ = Advance CDR from Artist > -- = Background music under interview > > > NEXT SHOW: > On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on > Ombient. The Featured CD at Midnight will be " self-released. > > Bill > ======================================================================== > Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, > Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and > Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in > Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio > on 88.1 FM. > Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info > Listen to WDIY on-line. > > -- *Tim Clement* phone: 416.536.8172 mobile: 647.832.8172 fax: 416.519.1816 --20cf307cfc68fb550504a0688659 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Have you played of Danna and Clement, the brilliant Canadian looping duo?= =A0 Would love to hear something form=A0North of Niagara, Summ= erland, A Gradual Awakening, or The Best of D&C=A0 .

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Bill Fox <billyfox@soun= dscapes.us> wrote:
http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/110407.html

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. =A0WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Show #731 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Ap= ril 7, 2011.

RECAP:
On this show, I began a month-long focus on Ombient. =A0The Featured CD at<= br> Midnight was "Ombient" which is self-released.

I also played music by artists who will be playing upcoming area
concerts at The Gathering and at the Soundscapes Concert Series. =A0See
details at the events page.

Ombient: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html= #apr
Events: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/events.html

PLAYLIST:

11:04 pm
ARTIST =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 TRACK =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0ALB= UM (label)
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Kevin Braheny =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Starflight 1 * =A0 =A0 =A0 Galaxies (Hearts of= Space)
Vic Hennegan =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Desert Island =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0DesertGod (Space = for Music)
jeffrey Koepper =A0 =A0 =A0Part 1 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Quadranteon (= AirSpace)
Michael Peck =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Debris from a =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Glacial (Gears of= Sand)
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Thousand Landscapes
Michael Peck =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Ghost Psalm =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Glacial (Gears = of Sand)
The Glimmer Room =A0 =A0 The View from the =A0 =A0A Diaray of Occurrences (= A-
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Summerhouse =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0Frame Media)
Ombient =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Sleep =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Omb= ient (none)

12:00 am
ARTIST =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 TRACK =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0ALB= UM (label)
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Ombient =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Threshold =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Ombient= (none)
Ombient =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Fragments =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Ombient= (none)
Ombient =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Unfold =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Ombie= nt (none)
Ombient =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Resound =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Ombie= nt (none)
Ombient =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Niemuth =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Ombie= nt (none)

1:00 am

=A0* =3D excerpt
VA =3D Various Artists (compilation)
++ =3D Advance CDR from Artist
-- =3D Background music under interview


NEXT SHOW:
On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on
Ombient. =A0The Featured CD at Midnight will be "<The Wheel Turns&q= uot; which is
self-released.

Bill
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show,
Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in
Trexlertown and Fogelsville. =A0WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM.
Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info
Listen to WDIY on-line.




--
Tim Clement
phone:=A0=A0 416.536.8172
mobile:=A0 6= 47.832.8172
fax:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 416.519.1816

--20cf307cfc68fb550504a0688659-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 8 13:58:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F0BF183453; Fri, 8 Apr 2011 13:58:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=a9UXFznBWSWzcdYz+PW6X5wFH8r3jYNQrMflnD4VNnQ=; b=t4Mf/+Ss7yip03UOf9AGzU6bkWOtxpoO2QyoavXRbgPTa3qwWNMSTV1tvH3PWhzDdo 5tHXtOYSRe67y8cjEwOuX3cdbBCHg53DMdVJEaiznKajxs1NkhmGmfDzPgtLmBb8LGKB gIpgPbJgh3VbN+WNDAaxTvnr+zC7yebSHpntA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=blpe1mkH0gjd8EfRKSADCVMCu8D5v8ygzHsnzPYHio7SB/1jHCu8HqGp4tVSyfk70E Jit9LryCJxxHlETCAfu4K5Vqb6oq2sFu77K7nsm9HXw56h4+kHfiPYMMnb7DXCqZYdAD xZZtBShW/1qIlxGyQp2U/k26RIm+2dTmwL5tM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 14:58:40 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: lil question about ableton clips From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd4b34890c3fc04a0689fb8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108877 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 13:58:41 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd4b34890c3fc04a0689fb8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 just started fooling with ableton and i'm aware that midi clips can be used to automate plugins etc, but i'm a little confused. if i have a filter on an aux send, can i use a midi cliip to control the filter sweep? if the clip has to be on a midi channel, how to i pass the midi data to the plugin? looked in the manual, but it's not much help i'm afraid many thanks! sim --000e0cd4b34890c3fc04a0689fb8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable just started fooling with ableton and i'm aware that midi clips can be = used to automate plugins etc, but i'm a little confused. if i have a fi= lter on an aux send, can i use a midi cliip to control the filter sweep? if= the clip has to be on a midi channel, how to i pass the midi data to the p= lugin?

looked in the manual, but it's not much help i'm afr= aid

many thanks!

sim --000e0cd4b34890c3fc04a0689fb8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 8 14:11:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D13B183456; Fri, 8 Apr 2011 14:11:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <3AC1FA31-0AF6-45AC-A884-819E8416BCD6@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 07:11:29 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108878 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 14:11:37 +0000 (UTC) so I'm sitting in my breakfast nook with my Good pal, Leinhos, Peter and we were just talking about what a bunch of immature jerks you all are for making fun of him. Leinhos, Peter that is....... and then we got back to the business of complementing each other on our cool new Charlie Sheen t-shirts. Bill PS Bryan you are sick and twisted, two qualities I most admire in a human being........Rod the Mod would be spinning in his...oh wait , hes not dead yet! sorry........ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 8 14:28:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA40B183449; Fri, 8 Apr 2011 14:28:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=11ynSmX2yLPwbstEzUpPR19KGgwAJ4dJp0P7HJvyz1I=; b=XpFzVpeeZ87fkD3POIOfxtquth8FkfyVF99X4w09LXgjnw1D6dFnGuc1FA8/LU8NSm nVVItdvIkhxxtFFEVdGN2TIjXtozXJZBuB+z0FnGyNOgNcI5hi6NHFoKEFwuVT0dmNFe bufotuV2SYZThV1djgGUmjARb9a0ZR8CQcB2Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=QKJNTKyAExKu9PFcXaCyXzyAKC3WlWjSb4sW93jJv8tqpTUaQgQrThObS1fkKkt9Wb UbEubXUkN10lFMvaY2G0669cBP7oqKFE4bvO6mL1ibDjA3QUZCDEK+aBZ15zLVN4PAoE 6Kq5ee6IKzLQk7lC4qp2c2DrIZn1Hf6gZFb9s= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 16:28:29 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: lil question about ableton clips From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108879 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 14:28:31 +0000 (UTC) Just send MIDI through a virtual MIDI cable in the computers OS. IAC bus if running Mac OSX or MIDI Yoke if running Windows. Then of course you have to set Ableton by its preferences to accept control through this bus. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > just started fooling with ableton and i'm aware that midi clips can be used > to automate plugins etc, but i'm a little confused. if i have a filter on an > aux send, can i use a midi cliip to control the filter sweep? if the clip > has to be on a midi channel, how to i pass the midi data to the plugin? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 8 15:27:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 236E8183486; Fri, 8 Apr 2011 15:27:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mJ2wBYzN7t1DJfadxfE1njXVqNttREzZYIfUl3Yh0Do=; b=l/mkihNV8umrsxPBiZlUXGYtVkAQr+SQA5hMwCpllklhI8NY0eX1U3vFBdn2lNAmaf NA555jJifPhSVWp3Go//K1sOsG9rpP5MBqqEXWyDX5rpYieMOH6E3f2C1cb/BnUfAO6/ GvvCmhIednDlxMQhM1iftQm7NVJZ6BRz1KxYg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=H9eQvZ2jr/71OWOZe5NQd+RiktIGnh6Qmuoo1754p8xL3s8G6t/0/6Z5Hl36hP+Uxk MfE+zamHAxUk3F1i4lDXmyAyUO4QUNGpkkAOXSz8Lva0xrZsugRFWdXS2J6smj1WrGIW FSQWRrvd/bVe8Q5GRCsRpOYBUzcrrI30YcAfQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 16:27:33 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: lil question about ableton clips From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174ff64069755404a069ddf1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108880 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 15:27:34 +0000 (UTC) --0015174ff64069755404a069ddf1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ah ok, so i just reserve a midi channel and a set of cc numbers for plugin control. so how do i attach the cc to the plugin parameter....just use midi learn? sim On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Just send MIDI through a virtual MIDI cable in the computers OS. --0015174ff64069755404a069ddf1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ah ok, so i just reserve a midi channel and a set of cc numbers for plugin = control. so how do i attach the cc to the plugin parameter....just use midi= learn?

sim

On Fri, Ap= r 8, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Just send MIDI through a virtual MIDI cable= in the computers OS.=A0
--0015174ff64069755404a069ddf1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 8 16:02:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 75624183456; Fri, 8 Apr 2011 16:02:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=blDqe2uZt2N9v/2IoI5i2ms+g81vAVzXrje1+kWP+FU=; b=SgAXDqVPV+CD9CnDIQvPt3y8jvKVP6c58tKev4alrWcv2xN+ii7OSVweHJbK4zW0Ll HrA4m/2QTKKnOb1mt8khiR7QBaTn0q4ZILzPnbCCeCzOQY2V9g6SuYjtFEufNLGzhjo9 rOJ+f43s0oHbG2fJgcZu0CaJJuSJPFkllYtls= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Ra6nB+RCt4aUe4lnnKiQigTGV+f/A2HXMvUv4CHX6tN3a2M7C1xq3tLnWyHBHzBgJy T5aGvP8TzY5vYDV5h3vCrXFZpeqcq0nIDlgHUiaRx59bT7v8Fd+E3hMsuFOmmhJUKqCt U4To2iKxTu68tk1qcppEqHk/x1dJ9BtEn5k1c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 12:00:47 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: lil question about ableton clips From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108881 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 16:02:57 +0000 (UTC) yep, just use midi learn. Check out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIjzcW_du3s Sylvain On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > ah ok, so i just reserve a midi channel and a set of cc numbers for plugin > control. so how do i attach the cc to the plugin parameter....just use midi > learn? > sim > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> Just send MIDI through a virtual MIDI cable in the computers OS. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 8 18:06:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1FC8183453; Fri, 8 Apr 2011 18:06:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vYqRB1YxaNREX9MapDeGFqvEtNrgXB7XfarQJATeHqM=; b=HRBMSxMcUvgOY3Zg0/oLQtDNXWjfbdNbZSSXDXDj51RinmIOSF++Rq8v0IrebYwEEM tCUEUjzS1VthQDCNW5EJdcIq/huUnwxgq466tjP9+DjjEXEpgQgfDNVfx+YOqMJzaPzZ a4NKNZlUqcgVnjQrC+5uMlczc8EG9GkpFw4v8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=BW/M99SbyrTReT/7wPb2D7Gbf3qp646M8/+IsYFdNgMDIYZho4k1XKqWHjcVc2U+TL 7yH4wM3w6PijYqP0bnxcmaiDZ2xucZ4bkqPnM+s05g/6QvfPYj7bSK0rvuG4oOJYefNC wR1LMu3GQEhic69yUdbW8BMikofRVa7/S6NQk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 19:06:46 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: lil question about ableton clips From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd24c62ceb7bd04a06c163a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108882 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 18:06:47 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd24c62ceb7bd04a06c163a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 thanks sylvian, just what i needed.....although that guy goes on a bit....! sim On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > yep, just use midi learn. Check out this video: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIjzcW_du3s > Sylvain > > --000e0cd24c62ceb7bd04a06c163a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks sylvian, just what i needed.....although that guy goes on a bit....!=

sim

On Fri, Apr = 8, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrot= e:
yep, just use midi learn. =A0Check out this= video:
= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DcIjzcW_du3s
Sylvain

--000e0cd24c62ceb7bd04a06c163a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 9 01:58:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1EBEB18349D; Sat, 9 Apr 2011 01:58:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D9FBD32.1060609@theambientping.com> Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2011 21:58:10 -0400 From: PiNG Reply-To: ping@theambientping.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ambient@hyperreal" , Dark Seeds , Drone Deep Chill , Loopers Delight , The Ambient Way Subject: 04.12.11 > The PiNG presents CYMBL and LORDE AWESOME + FSK1138 + GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020209.4D9FBD38.002B,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108883 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 01:58:17 +0000 (UTC) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 04.12.11 THE AMBiENT PiNG presents KEDR GOES TO SPACE featuring CYMBL and LORDE AWESOME + FSK1138 + GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS @ Supermarket . 268 Augusta Ave . Kensington Market . just south of College . Map, info and directions at: http://www.supermarkettoronto.com/site/section/contact Tues. April 12th . Doors open at 8 . 1st set at 8:30 . $6 . Cymbl is Rich Baker on drums. He first performed at the PiNG in an impromptu 1999 performance when ARC formed at the PiNG and has gone on to release over 20 records. Lorde Awesome’s Avery Strok on keyboards and Rich Vainio on guitars have been playing together since 2008. This is not their first collaboration, but it is their PiNG debut. . FSK1138 . Donald Baynes AKA FSK1138 will be coming in from Montreal for his first PiNG outing. FSK1138 has performed at Mutek and nuit blanche in Montreal and will be bringing along some unique musical toys like kinect and emotive brain interface stuff along with launchpads, a tablet pc, iPad and projector. He also works with a korg monotron, dsixl, ds10 - KP3, datagloves, wii mote and robots. Check out some of FSK1138's media explorations at youtube.com/fsk1138 . GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS . Back by popular demand, the unique evolving light paintings of GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS will provide us with mesmerizing eye candy projections. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . COMiNG SOON TUESDAY MAY 10th 2011 . RADiO iN AMBiENCE (celebrating New Adventures in Sound Art's Deep Wireless Radio Art Festival) featuring NOiNO + GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS + More TBA @ Supermarket . 268 Augusta Ave . Kensington Market just south of College . Map, info and directions at: http://www.supermarkettoronto.com/site/section/contact PiNG doors open at 8 . 1st set at 8:30 . $6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SAT. APRiL 9TH . 8:00PM SHARP . A Wavelength Co-Presentation with Images Festival presents the GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS and URM film "luminations" + FUCKED UP performing a live score to Tod Brownings "West of Zanzibar" as part of the Images Festival / Live Images 6 / Closing Night Gala @ Toronto Underground Cinema . 186 Spadina Avenue West side of Spadina just North of Queen . map and info here: http://www.torontoundergroundcinema.com/contact.php Admission: $15 general / $12 students, seniors, advanced Tickets at Rotate This, Soundscapes & imagesfestival.com . 8:00 . luminations . The big screen debut of "luminations," an hour long film of projected light and ambient electronic music by GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS and URM. This unique film features the multi-layered projected translucent light paintings of Stephen Lindsey (GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS) which were created to accompany a musical soundtrack of soundscapes and electronic music created by Jamie Todd (URM.) General Chaos Visuals: http://www.generalchaosvisuals.ca URM: http://www.urm.ca . FUCKED UP . Toronto post-hardcore visionaries and Polaris Prize winners perform an original live score to Tod Browing's 1928 silent film, West of Zanzibar! Directed by Tod Browing, staring Lon Chaney and Lionel Barrymore with cinematography by Percy Hilburn. USA, 1928, 35mm, 63 min, silent with live musical score Print courtesy George Eastman House. Wavelength: http://www.wavelengthtoronto.com Images Festival: http://www.imagesfestival.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . free download from the ping things net label: "Tenkan" by Lorne David Thomson ping things is very pleased to welcome back Lorne David Thomson for his third ping things net release "Tenkan". Featuring eight new instrumental pieces, "Tenkan" continues the musical journey begun in Thomson's earlier releases for ping things, "Swimming Alone" and "Quadra Station". Pulsing synths pair with organic melodies and hypnotizing rhythms, minimal tones drift and float through the soundfield, and long sweeping pads arch and bend to add to the spatial dynamic. Another wonderful album from Lorne David Thomson that ping things is happy to be able to share with you. "Tenkan" is available for free download as an 113Mb Zip file containing the full release in mp3 format along with artwork suitable for printing. The music on this release is copyright Lorne David Thomson 2011 and may not be used or reproduced without the artist's express permission. http://pingthings.blogspot.com/2011/03/download-tenkan-by-lorne-david-thomson.html Check out the ping things blog for more free downloadable releases from the ping things net label. http://pingthings.blogspot.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THE AMBiENT PiNG is a Toronto based creative community of audio artists, performers, musicians and visual artists. The PiNG presents live multimedia performances featuring ambient, electronic, soundscape, space, drone, psychedelic, chillout, downtempo, darkwave and experimental artists from around the world. http://www.theambientping.com The PiNG also has a Twitter account to send you advance updates and reminders of the when & where of future PiNG events. Just search for ambientping to find us. http://twitter.com We're also on facebook too, again just search THE AMBiENT PiNG. http://www.facebook.com ViSiT the ping things store for ambient, electronic and chill things: http://www.pingthings.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Please forward this e-mail to any interested friends or appropriate newsgroups. Thanks. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 9 02:56:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1BA8018349C; Sat, 9 Apr 2011 02:56:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=oIv04XXdEYh2MbYuDfZqeaswiw9+RGe2txZblPR/Lr4= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=CNxbVC3+Q4TMjpjfeHDQxw==:17 a=iyMIOAjUAAAA:8 a=y1RJ3yS06iTAQPq1xpEA:9 a=05WV8j9Ivq3c3kBeHxAA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=CNxbVC3+Q4TMjpjfeHDQxw==:117 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D95AEFF.6040307@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OMG OT: Harmonic Capo Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 19:56:01 -0700 References: <4D95AEFF.6040307@cruzio.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108884 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 02:56:18 +0000 (UTC) Rick, Just got mine today and am enjoying it greatly. Thanks for posting about this. I might not have heard about it otherwise. I don't subscribe to any music magazines anymore. So it's not too likely that I would have know of this devices existence. It only fits and works on 2 of my guitars (my resonator and my "surfcaster"). Al of the other have too low of action. But I just spent the last hour plucking away quite happily on the Reso. Muchas grasias. Ted PS). Bob's music isn't too bad either (got the package that included the CDs as well. Cheers! On Apr 1, 2011, at 3:54 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > Hey all you looping guitar players, my wife just gave me the coolest > fucking late Christmas present > that I've ever received: It's going to have a huge impact on some > of my guitar playing. > > It's called the Harmonic Capo (made by Bob Kilgore: http://www.weaseltrap.com/ > ) > > It is a capo that you place on the 12th fret of an electric guitar > that has 6 individual > rubber stoppers whose height (and width) from above the fretboard > can be individually adjusted. > > Essentially, what it does is play continual 12th fret Barre chord > harmonics. > > Now, that is pretty cool by itself, but the truly groovy addition to > this concept is that it is designed so that if you actually fret any > string either > in back or in front of the capo, the strength height is lowered > enough so that the harmonic action > of the capo is disengaged and a normal note sounds (allowing for > normal melodies and/or chords to be played) > > What is so infinitely cool (at least to me who is not a guitarist > but plays one on TV) > is that you can tune the guitar like a zither........in other > words, you can tune to 6 scalar > notes (or your hearts content) and always be able to play harmonics > in this scale whilst > simultaneously playing leads as you strum or arpeggiate the harmonics. > > I set it up on my Fretless Strat tonight and just tuned my guitar to > an interesting Arabic Maqam > and then could alternate between playing bass lines on the lowest > string (tonic) and melodies > on all the other strings. > > Just goofing around with my M9 earlier tonight, I was able to use > double and half speeds to create three octaves of harmonic parts > and then solo over the resultant chimey 'soup' With all the > harmonics singing, I was able to play my fretless guitar with my > eyes closed, > sliding in and out of consonance..........it's a really beautiful > effect. > > My wife is amazing and I'm so happy that we had to wait to give each > other Christmas months later than normal. > > Woohoooo!!!! I'm psyced! > > rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 9 03:56:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F49318349D; Sat, 9 Apr 2011 03:56:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=AKQP6frc161pVDy2v3B7VBlzAk+SbIqi1brwfbYa6d8=; b=eQkIRKM8Aml7nw8lyHwbf5W/Q/uzkJeXgT+9j6wpNo2f2PXjkoTvgOlo0S4tXpwwWm zTW1j3OHalh34ww6Z+hh/pq7nQ8H0gLKsSaDC2fPxU1qLLGJZJzAfSE3DA3k7chrGuxX Z8zxMxAd8eRWAexqQ1Rh7wxnBf3rs8tP/MxCk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=pvO6lflyJxf1+CY7YaV8i+kiwJ2PWYVbjP7zChGgUuPyGS6syD9mNKyFPUAIhIOStM NfO9XI7ciNuqoxC838AoqEp7QiJ7Z3QBFqnTjZzZ07bJnzXg+gKFsjAg8U5nRXsVTny2 qVM2LDg2Z0ST/lAz4yylvcm/X+kUTTDEHij2M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 20:56:08 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: OT: Nuspirit Helsinki Love Bossa From: Art Simon To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba613f448ea2df04a074521d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108885 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 03:56:09 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba613f448ea2df04a074521d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Found this one on last.fm. I'm totally loving it. Loop based, but in the Ableton clip paradigm as opposed to sound on sound looping. Apparently it's a collective of nearly 70 djs and musicians in Finland. This track has a solid groove that is deep and complex. The haunting sax lines could be from some obscure Pharoah Sanders or Carlos Garnett 70s album, and the rhythm guitar is just killer. Definitely worth a listen if you like "nu jazz." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74ytBRcefaE -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon --90e6ba613f448ea2df04a074521d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Found this one on last.fm. I'm totally l= oving it. Loop based, but in the Ableton clip paradigm as opposed to sound = on sound looping. Apparently it's a collective of nearly 70 djs and mus= icians in Finland. This track has a solid groove that is deep and complex. = The haunting sax lines could be from some obscure Pharoah Sanders or Carlos= Garnett 70s album, and the rhythm guitar is just killer. Definitely worth = a listen if you like "nu jazz."
http://www.youtube= .com/watch?v=3D74ytBRcefaE
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Art Simon
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myspace [dot] com/artsimon
--90e6ba613f448ea2df04a074521d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 9 04:18:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A64118349D; Sat, 9 Apr 2011 04:18:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_7g8QaaxcZr+ToBUgwLpOwA)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-04-09_02:2011-04-09,2011-04-09,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1104080185 Message-id: From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Subject: Re: Nuspirit Helsinki Love Bossa Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2011 21:16:09 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108886 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 04:18:10 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_7g8QaaxcZr+ToBUgwLpOwA) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT That's a sweet groove. Miles Bossa. toby ----- Original Message ----- From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 8:56 PM Subject: OT: Nuspirit Helsinki Love Bossa Found this one on last.fm. I'm totally loving it. Loop based, but in the Ableton clip paradigm as opposed to sound on sound looping. Apparently it's a collective of nearly 70 djs and musicians in Finland. This track has a solid groove that is deep and complex. The haunting sax lines could be from some obscure Pharoah Sanders or Carlos Garnett 70s album, and the rhythm guitar is just killer. Definitely worth a listen if you like "nu jazz." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74ytBRcefaE -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon --Boundary_(ID_7g8QaaxcZr+ToBUgwLpOwA) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
That's a sweet groove.  Miles Bossa.
 
toby
----- Original Message -----
From: Art Simon
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 8:56 PM
Subject: OT: Nuspirit Helsinki Love Bossa

Found this one on last.fm. I'm totally loving it. Loop based, but in the Ableton clip paradigm as opposed to sound on sound looping. Apparently it's a collective of nearly 70 djs and musicians in Finland. This track has a solid groove that is deep and complex. The haunting sax lines could be from some obscure Pharoah Sanders or Carlos Garnett 70s album, and the rhythm guitar is just killer. Definitely worth a listen if you like "nu jazz."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74ytBRcefaE
--
Art Simon
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--Boundary_(ID_7g8QaaxcZr+ToBUgwLpOwA)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 9 10:12:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0234F1834A0; Sat, 9 Apr 2011 10:12:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=yfffKb5XDuRBQvxfp26XvEec7zbLfGZGaka9WiUTFcg=; b=xuyLixG5DHfpYG4CB2/kkzEZbdPPUJJnlv9VO5VeQs7yc74oNi9sAuLqtLfS1T9miB XFwiWOkN3+ahaFtGsph5CdBSCgP2uAmeVVZv5J4ogEpdV8cVm3L9XK2MKzyo33w2ZyVI 7HO9BdLJ8bdw7egKdOF9NpshXpBJiTdBTt63s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=N1g/KmLJJQ1dzBB9+Wdz+zyzrqOpdP/DWV/BUsSFrJSL6tZEuN3zwtdoWbWok2TYVn HzO+6XZGerjHm3khU1RPlgUHCJjLkaBitHLzs1ZQAGlElY6T+ZejCf19+vdyHOlcKGqS hUG7XGbVDMWP+HFUAPjGuD8cA0OCDkbUW69fA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 22:12:06 +1200 Message-ID: Subject: Zoom G2Nu, G2.1Nu MIDI control From: Jacob Lister To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485e7c8ac21cecf04a0799301 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108887 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 10:12:07 +0000 (UTC) --001485e7c8ac21cecf04a0799301 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi guys, I recently bought a G2.1Nu to replace my RPx400 guitar processor on my looping setup, killer feature of this product is that it will power from USB, making for a compact setup using a laptop as a looper. Also important is that it implements a MIDI interface over USB, only standard message it responds to out of the box are patch changes, important for my application. I really wanted to get at the finer control settings and get messages send back when the buttons were pressed on the device for hands free control, so I snooped the USB bus when the provided configuration software was running. After some teeth pulling I have been able to establish the control message format (it's all implemented via SysEx). I have some notes on the protocol, anybody here interested in me putting them up? Jacob --001485e7c8ac21cecf04a0799301 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi guys,

I recently bought a G2.1Nu to replace my RPx400 guitar proc= essor on my looping setup, killer feature of this product is that it will p= ower from USB, making for a compact setup using a laptop as a looper.=A0 Also important is that it implements a MIDI interface over USB, only standa= rd message it responds to out of the box are patch changes, important for m= y application.
I really wanted to get at the finer control settings and = get messages send back when the buttons were pressed on the device for hand= s free control, so I snooped the USB bus when the provided configuration so= ftware was running.=A0 After some teeth pulling I have been able to establi= sh the control message format (it's all implemented via SysEx).=A0 I ha= ve some notes on the protocol, anybody here interested in me putting them u= p?

Jacob

--001485e7c8ac21cecf04a0799301-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 9 11:57:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31F3F183449; Sat, 9 Apr 2011 11:57:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fOcZLimMbLcaM0z2et74NjI7qX6zHs81GDVyESKuo6s=; b=dZaEoDRilJzOtIDTHkA7fqp+pe20oP8Fh2wcdXsOOtJ4bpAzMrIgPo3JjXwi2TyVd+ +4VEb2N83Iy4waTHEJwW6EbEADU8GGzfjqAxtpYgxIsebCdGKYSoZDsfpvjc3ZocAkPZ /t38VqhQrVtDNI5xj5w5yg093cloFhe8ejuIs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=kJZn57WaB4/fArg5+fFISRrkFEtV9qThAxwVpRT1FFBk76eaz8wvDlgSRkqiuf4zWG O4AzjTS73F9vtgGWazwIP25KR2dC29aPAilDsNbN49A9EFqj29pmOfehRkvrSPe/L6R/ 6PN+jVmoVikdkcw7sz2iLcTwxkJibTZpA/YM0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 13:57:35 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Zoom G2Nu, G2.1Nu MIDI control From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd5c94e5759a104a07b0c34 Resent-Message-ID: <2t7sJD.A.ZzB.vmEoNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108888 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 11:57:36 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd5c94e5759a104a07b0c34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ah yes, please ... put them up. i was thinking to get one of those puppies for a compact combo with the laptop (bidule) and after your message, i'm more than convinced that the zoom is the route for me now. does the additional control input(s) send cc over usb midi or only patch changes? 2011/4/9 Jacob Lister > Hi guys, > > I recently bought a G2.1Nu to replace my RPx400 guitar processor on my > looping setup, killer feature of this product is that it will power from > USB, making for a compact setup using a laptop as a looper. > Also important is that it implements a MIDI interface over USB, only > standard message it responds to out of the box are patch changes, important > for my application. > I really wanted to get at the finer control settings and get messages send > back when the buttons were pressed on the device for hands free control, so > I snooped the USB bus when the provided configuration software was running. > After some teeth pulling I have been able to establish the control message > format (it's all implemented via SysEx). I have some notes on the protocol, > anybody here interested in me putting them up? > > Jacob > > -- .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com --000e0cd5c94e5759a104a07b0c34 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ah yes, please ... put them up. i was thinking to get one of those puppies = for a compact combo with the laptop (bidule) and after your message, i'= m more than convinced that the zoom is the route for me now. does the addit= ional control input(s) send cc over usb midi or only patch changes?=A0

2011/4/9 Jacob Lister <= jacob.h.lister@gmail.com>= ;
Hi guys,

I recently bought a G2.1Nu to replace my RPx400 guitar proc= essor on my looping setup, killer feature of this product is that it will p= ower from USB, making for a compact setup using a laptop as a looper.=A0 Also important is that it implements a MIDI interface over USB, only standa= rd message it responds to out of the box are patch changes, important for m= y application.
I really wanted to get at the finer control settings and = get messages send back when the buttons were pressed on the device for hand= s free control, so I snooped the USB bus when the provided configuration so= ftware was running.=A0 After some teeth pulling I have been able to establi= sh the control message format (it's all implemented via SysEx).=A0 I ha= ve some notes on the protocol, anybody here interested in me putting them u= p?

Jacob




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--000e0cd5c94e5759a104a07b0c34-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 9 12:17:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C183718349D; Sat, 9 Apr 2011 12:17:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DA04E56.4090202@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 05:17:26 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Samplehead CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Louie Angulo Subject: Re: Re: Tomy Levin live looping References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <04ERfB.A.ZOC.g5EoNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108889 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 12:17:36 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Samplehead wrote: > That high melody sounds like a famous soundtrack, I just can't quite > recall what it was > That's one of the 'rubs' of paying certain exotic scales............anyone who has written a famous theme in that scale will sound like most things you play in it. Unless, of course, it is a conscious 'rip' or 'homage' to a particular theme. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 9 13:30:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E864418349D; Sat, 9 Apr 2011 13:30:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DA059EB.50607@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 09:06:51 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Top 20 Report for March, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108890 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 13:30:46 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/top20-03mar.html WDIY 88.1 FM "Galactic Travels" Top 20 for March, 2011. Shows #726 to #730; 3-March-2011 to 31-March-2011 Reported in non-ranked, alphanumeric order. Compiled by Bill Fox The Special Focus for March was Richard Lainhart. Lainhart: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#mar ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL ======================================================================== Bruno Sanfilippo - Subliminal Pulse - Spotted Peccary Chuck van Zyl - MemorySpace - Synkronos Dan Pound - Medusazoa - PoundSounds Etokle - The Golden Bear & Other Works - Auraltone Galactic Anthems - The Other Side - none Gert Emmens - Metamorphosis - Groove Juta Takahashi - Silence - Lunisolar Markus Reuter and Zero Ohms - The Sun Is Just the Sun, But the Stars They Call the Heavens - DiN Meg Bowles - A Quiet Light - Kumatone Richard Lainhart - Five Nocturnes - O-Town Richard Lainhart - Staring at the Moon - O-Town Richard Lainhart - The Beautiful Blue Sky - O-Town Richard Lainhart - The Line of the Horizon - O-Town Richard Lainhart - White Night - Ex Ovo Robert Schroyder - Cygnus-A - Spheric Music Sensitive Chaos - Meditation Modulation Manipulation - Ping Things Spyra - No Beats For 1 Hour - Ricochet Dream Travel Trip - Ice In Holes - Auraltone Music Various Artists - E-Live 2010 - Groove vidnaObmana - Chasing the Odyssee - Tonefloat Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 9 15:37:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E6A018349D; Sat, 9 Apr 2011 15:37:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: Subject: Stretched Landscape Remix Project makes the hitlists Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 17:37:44 +0200 Message-ID: <8900F623C0304179A5C81E5617F23B93@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01CBF6DC.D5E34330" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcvkgSq+T7NlTRiXTBGzw5TKOrk4FA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108891 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 15:37:49 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01CBF6DC.D5E34330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stretched Landscape Remix Project is currently #8 of the most popular free download Bandcamp albums http://bandcamp.com/tag/free-download -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01CBF6DC.D5E34330 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0022_01CBF6DC.D5E34330-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 9 15:49:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E022318349C; Sat, 9 Apr 2011 15:49:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pTqTu6yZWtaeyH0Nwo0uz/5lt3zVskHUr9y5WD8DVyo=; b=qa5jezSNyGB5zFZVQvIjlzHZT7aFzwKC+84otax21Dan2SHWLlKokcffjTzpaOC+DI XU/7GOinBGbO2dCrJdDzQF3JFyst8VjpfhcxveE+/sMif1gC7R+H/69szZcAeUlpARvN lMm3KTz5LNAAesw5UEbfcExGk2u2+x1mqEsCs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=IcgKe8ZMFtPaqBk72laPzl8jRQ1wMPGlxD8gmhs6GtupghwIv+27UBiPDp8NzdWuNe RgIx+x4s2g5rAZFIS2TuhzQ9mveBm6J9STlPn7nwESWmdO106MfatEHlfw6UmfaxTpdT kFRBuLJd46EAC8i/TCm/sXg3uiBiOxRTOweHo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8900F623C0304179A5C81E5617F23B93@mpeserver> References: <8900F623C0304179A5C81E5617F23B93@mpeserver> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 17:49:02 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stretched Landscape Remix Project makes the hitlists From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd5c94e164eb004a07e4853 Resent-Message-ID: <-AejPD.A.w-G.v_HoNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108892 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 15:49:03 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd5c94e164eb004a07e4853 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 yiipeeeeee! 2011/4/9 Michael Peters > Stretched Landscape Remix Project is currently #8 of the most popular > free download Bandcamp albums > > http://bandcamp.com/tag/free-download > > -Michael > > -- .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com --000e0cd5c94e164eb004a07e4853 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yiipeeeeee!

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--000e0cd5c94e164eb004a07e4853-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 9 16:46:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB65C18349D; Sat, 9 Apr 2011 16:46:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <6260caa64a02ec1345ab8980be93a0c2.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 12:49:09 -0400 Subject: Re: OT: Nuspirit Helsinki Love Bossa From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Andr=E9_Donawa=22?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108893 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 16:46:23 +0000 (UTC) Digging it. Thanks for the heads up. Andre http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.youtube.com/user/AndreDonawa On Fri, April 8, 2011 11:56 pm, Art Simon wrote: > Found this one on last.fm. I'm totally loving it. Loop based, but in the > Ableton clip paradigm as opposed to sound on sound looping. Apparently > it's > a collective of nearly 70 djs and musicians in Finland. This track has a > solid groove that is deep and complex. The haunting sax lines could be > from > some obscure Pharoah Sanders or Carlos Garnett 70s album, and the rhythm > guitar is just killer. Definitely worth a listen if you like "nu jazz." > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74ytBRcefaE > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 9 16:58:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4AB418349D; Sat, 9 Apr 2011 16:58:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DA09027.5000208@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 09:58:15 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Peters CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Stretched Landscape Remix Project makes the hitlists References: <8900F623C0304179A5C81E5617F23B93@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: <8900F623C0304179A5C81E5617F23B93@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108894 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 16:58:22 +0000 (UTC) Congratulations, Michael and everyone who remixed! rick walker *On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Michael Peters wrote:* > *Stretched Landscape Remix Project is currently #8 of the most popular > free download Bandcamp albums* > ** > *http://bandcamp.com/tag/free-download* > ** > *-Michael* From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 9 17:21:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47F6018349D; Sat, 9 Apr 2011 17:21:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DA095A0.2010602@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 10:21:36 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Art Simon CC: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: Re: OT: Nuspirit Helsinki Love Bossa References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108895 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 17:21:43 +0000 (UTC) It's a very cool track, Some nice re-mixing or programming of the Bossa drum tracks as well as the aforementioned guitar and sax tracks. Very nice bass line, too.........it takes a good one to be this simple and play it over and over again. There are times, where I'd swear that the Sax samples were drawn from a track whose underlying chord structure was based on a different mode of the same scale, which is a cool trick that I stumbled onto in a recording/remix session I once did for a client of mine many years ago when I was first in love with remixing and looping in Sonic Foundry's ACID (that's how long ago it was: it has been Sony ACID for many years now). He was playing a Celtic harp and I suggested that he try an improvisation in Lydian. We were just goofing around putting together a dance track for a South African label and just experimenting with adding modern electronica dance grooves to some Celtic underpinnings. I had him improvise at a certain tempo and create several potential parts. I was specifically going for this kind of track: sample based but creating the playing samples with this approach in mind, so I had him do a bunch of very high pitched rhythm parts and , finally, before our dinner break, I asked him to give me a single sample of each note in the scale in the bass end of the harp. He patiently did this for me and suddenly I realized that, unwittingly (and we were both really tired that day) we had been playing in Mixolydian the entire time and not Lydian. Well, we got a big laugh out of that one and because I was working in ACID, I just told him to go to dinner and I'd whip together a Lydian bridge just by repitching the parts we'd used so far in Mixolydian. Well, if you don't collapse the views in Acid, it's possible to have whole parts of the song looping away that are literally out of site of the main tracks you are viewing. Because I was tired and because I already knew exactly how to repitch all the parts to build a 'B' section for the song, I worked extremely quickly on the bridge but without ever listening to it. I was working at a break neck speed because I wanted my client to come back from the dinner break and be 'wowed' by the magic that I had been weaving in the computer. When the client came back from the dinner break, I proudly hit play to let him hear what I had been working on and realized that too my horror, I had kept my Mixolydian high octave parts running (above and out of sight) against all of my hard earned re-arranging of the last hour and a half. But it sounded really cool, because it had reharmonized the piece of music, causing some interesting suspensions, harmonically. Since then, that 'mistake' has been one of my favorite techniques for ringing some 'new' out of more prosaic melodic/harmonic tracks. rick walker On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Art Simon wrote: > Found this one on last.fm . I'm totally loving it. > Loop based, but in the Ableton clip paradigm as opposed to sound on > sound looping. Apparently it's a collective of nearly 70 djs and > musicians in Finland. This track has a solid groove that is deep and > complex. The haunting sax lines could be from some obscure Pharoah > Sanders or Carlos Garnett 70s album, and the rhythm guitar is just > killer. Definitely worth a listen if you like "nu jazz." > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74ytBRcefaE > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 9 22:39:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D8C718349D; Sat, 9 Apr 2011 22:39:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5NRgOR5jxLS+pCDI2ymLgC0BH+K/LyqceVLPe2IQvNI=; b=OdYX9NLAelyKCrL58hq2v024r9rmOS7uQAJZj3QgbJPQ2/kJPSjTfflpOyLqlOQy+D lIqh1DROxfUFlUVjnUNV/T8XDPBbtU8OzghB4m5NTtpxGQ+t3bfY4Ll4u6JcU3y1C26I 5cKmxj11PLgUxwouERYgjsK046yvsWhD7Cnic= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=fNv9AR5nMyAYg0cepHpvioQO6Q9gZVq6Mtn57NEfZIKbXtuUpjfBCv6oz1xbVvlp13 4UL9E+o1RR4ObGDJhtofVk3Kew7NCTBnUm+5Ur9TlOKGJSYnByhWIap0d8MjsN8MXGhG X9zLSjJBKAXS5fDC7LMYl2nqkDeNVQ1zYfvy8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 18:39:46 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Zoom G2Nu, G2.1Nu MIDI control From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51a7ed2f6d20f04a084042d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108896 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 22:39:46 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec51a7ed2f6d20f04a084042d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have a G2.1Nu myself, I would love to see what you have come up with, thanks! Jeff On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 6:12 AM, Jacob Lister wrote: > Hi guys, > > I recently bought a G2.1Nu to replace my RPx400 guitar processor on my > looping setup, killer feature of this product is that it will power from > USB, making for a compact setup using a laptop as a looper. > Also important is that it implements a MIDI interface over USB, only > standard message it responds to out of the box are patch changes, important > for my application. > I really wanted to get at the finer control settings and get messages send > back when the buttons were pressed on the device for hands free control, so > I snooped the USB bus when the provided configuration software was running. > After some teeth pulling I have been able to establish the control message > format (it's all implemented via SysEx). I have some notes on the protocol, > anybody here interested in me putting them up? > > Jacob > > --bcaec51a7ed2f6d20f04a084042d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a G2.1Nu myself, I would love to see what you have come up with, tha= nks!

Jeff

On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 6= :12 AM, Jacob Lister <jacob.h.lister@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi guys,

I= recently bought a G2.1Nu to replace my RPx400 guitar processor on my loopi= ng setup, killer feature of this product is that it will power from USB, ma= king for a compact setup using a laptop as a looper.=A0
Also important is that it implements a MIDI interface over USB, only standa= rd message it responds to out of the box are patch changes, important for m= y application.
I really wanted to get at the finer control settings and = get messages send back when the buttons were pressed on the device for hand= s free control, so I snooped the USB bus when the provided configuration so= ftware was running.=A0 After some teeth pulling I have been able to establi= sh the control message format (it's all implemented via SysEx).=A0 I ha= ve some notes on the protocol, anybody here interested in me putting them u= p?

Jacob


--bcaec51a7ed2f6d20f04a084042d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 10 03:51:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 142BC18349D; Sun, 10 Apr 2011 03:51:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=vrB0ZXz5JzIFJ1iNe/jfof3scBJzExPmHjghTJR7eqs=; b=XUaar9UvawrIUW1xEbPeLZu7otEiNR+uCuPDbEzssDHGgRDdRHs3NntfrRvfdx+Z8w 6z1e8wA0EnzM+hmt+SqeYGLahpqPTYkGNriaYidcMG5pjW2u4mgwCNrS9y5lK1VAND0N jAALjYid43lBUWOXM95PAaUYrVsOuLdsk85l0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=d03I5OKDsb5ci+ZH+okzHWnDJWgEbJVu+5XX0v5rqFBYoWeo+qBIjnOk40opK7OlMY +fuGUklD4taThnunISIemhVtyfODUz0OpiNC5+77q9N9AgO7skZbXUMzo6r7pT3Kuq93 r6NTaWst5wl/sOz4U3AlEMI1f7FU9nCfO9KXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DA095A0.2010602@cruzio.com> References: <4DA095A0.2010602@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 20:51:03 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Nuspirit Helsinki Love Bossa From: Art Simon To: Rick Walker Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba1efd283e53a104a0885eaf Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108897 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 03:51:05 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba1efd283e53a104a0885eaf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks Rick, it's really wonderful to have your informed and dare I say erudite analysis. It's funny how the ear and brain works. I hadn't noticed how the same bass riff repeats itself through the piece. My ear was elsewhere. As for mixed modes, I think what it brings to the music is tension. It may be may be a happy accident in much electronica, but I like how different scales and modes sound on top of each other. Those differences layered on top of each other with a frenetic beat are exciting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74ytBRcefaE >> >> > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon --90e6ba1efd283e53a104a0885eaf Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Rick, it's really wonderful to have your informed and dare I say= erudite analysis.

It's funny how the ear and brain works. I hadn't noticed how the sa= me bass riff repeats itself through the piece. My ear was elsewhere.

As for mixed modes, I think what it brings to the music is tension. It=20 may be may be a happy accident in much electronica, but I like how=20 different scales and modes sound on top of each other. Those differences layered on top of each other with a frenetic beat are exciting.

= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D74ytBRcefaE






--
Art Simon
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--90e6ba1efd283e53a104a0885eaf-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 10 23:58:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8588C18349C; Sun, 10 Apr 2011 23:58:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=9COU4QOJi2Jbr2ttonMj8KvppTJUQ7d9beRCnNhYBGo=; b=kJCmiMkgLoBfWxk78NDdNRlUzNtujiJXH2GlMsmVkTH/0J/soTP4xzD2v6lFzwqQgv L3gb32riUgzT8GnOEXEppaVhuvSx687j1a7ZsgZBj9TSmSXZ8ES7tJbBVy1aiApFjGBr 2YWgXu/099SO3tIaZW1lvE3HOmzkaAIU6l98w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=tx6ntspHXyYrtaj3MIxB4ABAkPnbgKjdS7//w9TwSdJwpM54Ena833r9nTQdg/xQhE ax3iXp9pSYnbovru72sJUizRhfIObpMvP/v4/WoCuLcFRmoTsa6biiypQjprCSmvoXCD ZBWFiJ+X9zL2H14geZ1fbOjrATbMrnjQBhb/Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 19:58:44 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: OT: online audio studio From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108898 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 23:58:47 +0000 (UTC) Hours of fun http://burn-studios.audiotool.com/app From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 11 00:58:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0CAC18349C; Mon, 11 Apr 2011 00:58:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=c4ZPbWp9DTrOEm/PuGAhMHltop9sVZdzKJ0/zsQmQpE=; b=Np0Tv0bim4YhnHmKRf+wrdBPfW307/LwP0kOx3ps0aJNoFVxAHS3UblSwQlu3Y1Hlh /3HRMh5aUafOiMgf2mG8G+RIrsDyMni1id2qsf5mFg6DK2BEOvTx15gfpvA18m12GzBC FsTZfpauxMDETFK0OBsMPIytDqDvvOIlAbt88= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=ZtH0hiUju8B+iN66163pJLJUkl/2pGz+yynLE3s3fMGsDR6qITjoxoQ6mY7oGdQoaw PwdKKzeBE5kQZPx3lnks5/BSezxzke29t90TMRQYAn5L+Iz5WdbipfjWMuzuf7QX/6ve By38DuASHVsigW89JLFe28U66QpW/qMai9C7E= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: OT: online audio studio From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 20:58:03 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0F1C9F23-3586-40A4-B6E1-000D4EBF05FA@gmail.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <_E9sX.A.hiH.eIloNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108899 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 00:58:07 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Slyvain! That is amazing to have Reason like software running in = your web browser! -Todd Matthews On Apr 10, 2011, at 7:58 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > Hours of fun >=20 > http://burn-studios.audiotool.com/app >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 11 02:13:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5784818349D; Mon, 11 Apr 2011 02:13:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 11 Apr 2011 02:13:51 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 21:05:36 -0400 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Video Performance AHNE 4.16.11 Lowell MA Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Experimental Film Discussion List Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <-medwD.A.feB.fPmoNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108900 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 02:13:51 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I'll be doing video improvisations at 119 Gallery (my favorite perfomance space) on April 16 at 8 PM, as part of AHNE (Analog Heaven Northeast). I'll be jamming with some really good synthesizer players. as part of the event described here: http://www.alt-mode.com/ahne/2011/ Suggested contribution, $5-10. 119 Chelmsford St Lowell, MA 01851 8:30 PM http://www.119gallery.org/ Culinary note: There is an outstanding Cambodian restaurant next door to the gallery. -- My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 11 03:33:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3621D18349D; Mon, 11 Apr 2011 03:33:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3601 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 11 Apr 2011 03:33:56 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 22:30:49 -0400 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Dr. T, Tom Plsek, Forbes Graham, Gordon Marshall April 17, Outpost 186 Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108901 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 03:33:56 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, Visual Music LIVE continues at Outpost 186 on Sunday April 17 at 8 PM. First Set Dr. T -- Video Projections Tom Plsek - Trombone I first played with Tom in 1973 or 74, which is scary to think about. Second Set Dr. T -- Video Projections Forbes Graham -- trumpet Gordon Marshall -- Poetry Possibly others, tba My projections are produced by mixing multiple DVD sources a video mixer and effects processors. The sources consist of computer-manipulated original material derived from my still photography and videography. The original subject matter is usually recognizable, but sometimes processed to complete abstraction. Sometimes the projections and music respond directly to each other -- sometimes they simply co-exist. Outpost 186, 186 Hampshire St (in the back), near Inman Square, Cambridge MA Suggested donation, $10 617.876.0860 ~ all ages ~ http://www.zeitgeist-outpost.org Many of my finished video pieces (both studio and live) can be seen at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld. with a piece from the Spring Series at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxBtaJajCkU Those of you who attend or perform at events at Outpost 186 may find my photo essay "Improvisations from an Outpost" http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157624670849749/ to be of interest, -- My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 11 05:57:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F56F18349C; Mon, 11 Apr 2011 05:57:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_86bd1962-8dd3-4d19-ba30-c003ee89706e_" X-Originating-IP: [86.136.121.139] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: OT: online audio studio Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 05:57:02 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <0F1C9F23-3586-40A4-B6E1-000D4EBF05FA@gmail.com> References: ,<0F1C9F23-3586-40A4-B6E1-000D4EBF05FA@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Apr 2011 05:57:02.0803 (UTC) FILETIME=[47801230:01CBF80D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108902 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 05:57:04 +0000 (UTC) --_86bd1962-8dd3-4d19-ba30-c003ee89706e_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Extremely cool! Gareth@Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > Subject: Re: OT: online audio studio > From: gtmatthews@gmail.com > Date: Sun=2C 10 Apr 2011 20:58:03 -0400 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Thanks Slyvain! That is amazing to have Reason like software running in y= our web browser! > -Todd Matthews > On Apr 10=2C 2011=2C at 7:58 PM=2C Sylvain Poitras wrote: >=20 > > Hours of fun > >=20 > > http://burn-studios.audiotool.com/app > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 = --_86bd1962-8dd3-4d19-ba30-c003ee89706e_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Extremely cool!

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= --_86bd1962-8dd3-4d19-ba30-c003ee89706e_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 11 06:08:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 691C118349D; Mon, 11 Apr 2011 06:08:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: Subject: Wavedrum mini Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 08:08:36 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acv4DuSErE6MKsOxTWCW/9Lk34JOmQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108903 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 06:08:42 +0000 (UTC) very tempting, especially the clip that can be attached anywhere, e.g. on my guitar. But why oh why didn't they add a USB plug? Any wavedrum users out there? what do you think about it compared to the larger wavedrum? The wavedrum mini can create loops but it sends only audio. How to sync these loops with other loops inside my computer? I wonder if there are plugins which can detect a rhythm speed from incoming audio. -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 11 07:27:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9614118344B; Mon, 11 Apr 2011 07:27:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: OT: online audio studio From: Reyn Ouwehand In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 09:27:46 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <9EA233D0-04F0-4149-BA15-99C67D62EA1E@reyn.net> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Authenticated-Sender: reynouwehand@quicknet.nl (via SMTP) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1Q9BXI-0008Ax-1p X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-2.9, vereist 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: loopers-delight@reyn.net X-Spam-Status: No Resent-Message-ID: <1oluJ.A.JFD.31qoNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108904 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 07:27:51 +0000 (UTC) Cool! On Apr 11, 2011, at 1:58 AM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > Hours of fun > > http://burn-studios.audiotool.com/app > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 11 08:28:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0391318344B; Mon, 11 Apr 2011 08:27:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=qNeItBav2a8WaFGAbV0e7eg0pLdCyE/wBcmU64qPlKc=; b=kLT+GaY7xK4ziF2909+zw4PG5TfE2xvOB18b/6cme4tvoH0V9e05V5kCvYbnpBCe40 ZG3TPmcnXLgtgo4YOfTjPRn3tDUYugaoC8HL+Aly8FNWXu+BfGS4iXPm4ciQJUmwxXz+ pcKOCHfl3o4PbaZUVFNQi6a2Uv1lCAS1h6lWI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=MjLpOdHGz3NDM1ssYDFrllze0+vDKk3nX7kZQHpXkGV0O4DK50dqNWOraC4CcNxyYf gOOaWFlvlMh6CNxOzFEzr16S78eH9EtteP7kxbRWqi9JO64Bia2uzG02ALlKI696AHR1 ExqL57AWKrPtsBIOfAMMAPOLd7i/BMVo0rOPs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 20:27:58 +1200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Zoom G2Nu, G2.1Nu MIDI control From: Jacob Lister To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64b98e06b418004a0a05a27 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108905 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 08:27:59 +0000 (UTC) --0016e64b98e06b418004a0a05a27 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Here's my very rough guide to Zoom MIDI control, if anyone has any joy getting the Zoom to do MIDI tempo sync, I'd like to know - looking into wiring into the control input on the unit to do this, but I'd far rather do it over the USB midi interface Zoom G2.1Nu MIDI Implementation notes: In addition to the audio interface provided over USB on the G2.1Nu a MIDI interface is also provided for control purposes. Unfortunately the MIDI interface is not mentioned in the Zoom product documentation :( . However, bundled with the product is control software called 'Edit and Share', which uses the MIDI interface to interact with the device. Therefore it is reasonable to assume that any control avaliable with this software can be initated by sending MIDI messages to the device. Setup ===== The information in this document has been attained by analysing the messages sent to and from the G2.1Nu from the Edit & Share software. This has in turn been attained by monitoring raw USB USB bus packets which are standard USB encapulated MIDI packets. The hardware used for this was a G2.1Nu and a PC running Windows 7, the G2Nu has not been tested but will likely use the same format Simple MIDI messages ==================== The G2.1Nu responds to several common MIDI messages out of the box with no special setup required. These are Patch Change: Sending a MIDI patch change message in the format C0 {patch} Will cause the Zoom to switch its current patch MIDI CC message: MIDI CC message are responsed, these can be used to turn on and off effects in the Zoom effects chain in stopbox functionality B0 {cc no} {value} A value of 00 will turn the parameter off, 7F will turn the parameter on The following CCs are responded to: 65 - Comp On/Off 66 - Efx On/Off 68 - Drive On/Off 69 - EQ On/Off 70 - ZNR On/Off 71 - Modulation On/Off 72 - Delay On/Off 73 - Reverb On/Off 74 - Mute On/Off 75 - Bypass On/Off Extended Messages ================= Further control of the Zoom it achieved with MIDI SysEx messages. The Zoom needs to be sent some preamble with will place it in an operation mode where it will receive sysex messages to set control parameters, once in this mode it will also generate messages when parameters are modified on the Zoom. The preamble is: Tx: F0 7E 00 06 01 F7 - MIDI System common device identity request Rx: F0 7E 00 06 02 52 4D 00 00 00 31 2E 30 33 F7 Tx: F0 52 00 4D 50 F7 Tx: F0 52 00 4D 33 F7 The Zoom will now respond to further SysEx messages to set parameters, send SysEx parameters when they are modified on the Zoom, and send Patch Change message when the current patch is changed on the zoom via the stop box switches. The SysEx parameter change message format is the same in both directions, the basic format is: F0 52 00 4D 31 {param} {value} F7 param: parameter index, two bytes value: parameter value, two bytes For example setting master patch level to '50' is F0 52 00 4D 31 0A 02 18 00 F7 Tempo Set ========= The Zoom responds to a tempo change message as a SysEx parameters described above. There does not however appear to be a way to send a tap tempo event along with the tempo change - the change is applied when the zoom has finished its current bar at the current tempo. A workaround is possible however: At the start of each beat, send: F0 52 00 4D 31 0A 07 7A 01 F7 - Set Tempo to top of scale (250 bmp) F0 52 00 4D 31 0A 07 78 00 F7 - Set Desired tempo (120 bmp in this example) This will trick the zoom into locking onto the tempo set messages as a clock reference, it dosn't work perfectly however, and confuses some effects (delays tend to lost their last delay buffer on the change) Expressions Pedal ================= There does not appear to be any way to generate control message when the expression pedal is adjusted :( However, a SysEx message is generated when the expression pedal is pressed above top of scale (this usually switches the effect the pedal was controlling on/off) --0016e64b98e06b418004a0a05a27 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here's my very rough guide to Zoom MIDI control, if anyone has any joy = getting the Zoom to do MIDI tempo sync, I'd like to know - looking into= wiring into the control input on the unit to do this, but I'd far rath= er do it over the USB midi interface

Zoom G2.1Nu MIDI Implementation notes:

In addition to the audio = interface provided over USB on the G2.1Nu a MIDI interface is also provided= for control purposes.=A0 Unfortunately the MIDI interface is not mentioned= in the Zoom product documentation :( . However, bundled with the product i= s control software called 'Edit and Share', which uses the MIDI int= erface to interact with the device.=A0 Therefore it is reasonable to assume= that any control avaliable with this software can be initated by sending M= IDI messages to the device.

Setup
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The information in this document has be= en attained by analysing the messages sent to and from the G2.1Nu from the = Edit & Share software.=A0 This has in turn been attained by monitoring = raw USB USB bus packets which are standard USB encapulated MIDI packets.=A0= The hardware used for this was a G2.1Nu and a PC running Windows 7, the G2= Nu has not been tested but will likely use the same format

Simple MIDI messages
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The G2.1Nu responds to several common MIDI messages = out of the box with no special setup required.=A0
These are

Patc= h Change:
Sending a MIDI patch change message in the format
=A0C0 {patch}
Will cause the Zoom to switch its current patch

MIDI CC message= :
MIDI CC message are responsed, these can be used to turn on and off ef= fects in the Zoom effects chain in stopbox functionality
=A0B0 {cc no} {value}
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A value of 00 will turn the parameter off, 7F will turn the= parameter on
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The following CCs are responded to:
65 - Comp On/Off
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69 - EQ On/Off70 - ZNR On/Off
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72 - Delay On/Off
73 - Reverb On/Off
74 - Mute On/Off
75 - Bypass On/Off

Extended Messages
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Further control of the Zoom it achieved with MIDI SysEx me= ssages.=A0 The Zoom needs to be sent some preamble with will place it in an= operation mode where it will receive sysex messages to set control paramet= ers, once in this mode it will also generate messages when parameters are m= odified on the Zoom.=A0 The preamble is:

Tx: F0 7E 00 06 01 = F7 - MIDI System common device identity request
Rx: F0 7E 00 06 02 52 4D 00 00 00 31 2E 30 33 F7

Tx: F0 52 00 4D 50 F7
Tx: F0 52 00 4D 33 F7


The Zoom will now respond to further SysEx messages to set paramete= rs, send SysEx parameters when they are modified on the Zoom, and send Patc= h Change message when the current patch is
changed on the zoom via the = stop box switches.

The SysEx parameter change message format is the same in both direction= s, the basic format is:

F0 52 00 4D 31 {param} {value} F7
param: parameter index,= two bytes
value: parameter value, two bytes

For example setting master patch l= evel to '50' is
F0 52 00 4D 31 0A 02 18 00 F7

Tempo Set
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The Zoom responds to a tempo change message as a SysEx parameters described= above.=A0 There does not however appear to be a way to send a tap tempo ev= ent along with the tempo change - the change is applied when the zoom has f= inished its current bar at the current tempo.=A0 A workaround is possible h= owever:

At the start of each beat, send:
F0 52 00 4D 31 0A 07 7A 01 F7 - Set Tempo to top of scale = (250 bmp)
F0 52 00 4D 31 0A 07 78 00 F7 - = Set Desired tempo (120 bmp in this example)

This will trick the zoom into locking onto the tempo set messages as a = clock reference, it dosn't work perfectly however, and confuses some ef= fects (delays tend to lost their last delay buffer on the change)

Expressions Pedal
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DThere does not appear to be any way to generate control message when the e= xpression pedal is adjusted :( However, a SysEx message is generated when t= he expression pedal is pressed above top of scale (this usually switches th= e effect the pedal was controlling on/off)
--0016e64b98e06b418004a0a05a27-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 11 14:40:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3AD1183486; Mon, 11 Apr 2011 14:40:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 10:40:58 -0400 Subject: Re: OT: online audio studio From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Andr=E9_Donawa=22?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108906 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 14:40:59 +0000 (UTC) Wow!! On Sun, April 10, 2011 7:58 pm, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > Hours of fun > > http://burn-studios.audiotool.com/app > > http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.youtube.com/user/AndreDonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 11 18:16:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F70618349D; Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:16:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=rV+h15itYR6dv1VZ/S/wmR6Ydh4G0G04phOF1SpZswY=; b=Kj3eQ6PUTn1e4bWkuiDCFcTWfXpqU5ILuAHTehFyMW45CdWI5EiXiJwSgKFk/HLd3u iJzzuYckXqwOC4pOCPwHnfuZeldYW9GiBC5egU2p4cWd2Sl1FE4Oa5BvFFXPHvp5GeU4 CWBlMVS+o/gPOgZLrVZmPQnRDZbtTRW1z/V+I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=LMsbS3qkx3a8X7lKZ6L4UuGavcB+22Z3AITAAF5QQdBkVpP/4+pvI00k0p0u+R+Lkh SwhO8hZTagJUDx/+5NUyBbHJoYog+GTSfD9sgVXy5ieKPRLIdvTMn5wUgfGF97wh1EnX hL+b/aaUxK5z/ENh9Vmc1cRHWG+OQmUDLny+U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 19:16:28 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: OT: Wanted: Roland GK-3 MIDI Pick-up From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174761e60e46bd04a0a89359 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108907 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:16:30 +0000 (UTC) --0015174761e60e46bd04a0a89359 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, Anyone got a GK-3 they'd like to sell to me on the cheap? Ricky --0015174761e60e46bd04a0a89359 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi,

Anyone got a GK-3 they'd like to sell to me on the cheap?

Ricky
--0015174761e60e46bd04a0a89359-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 11 18:47:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60153183486; Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:47:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=GEE1hGcIl1asRDzpNb4g222XSr5ObKYGTUsupP3bVNE=; b=gyspuRthgwkaQBoVgaOdEvZZSY/LkDFjIDupZv0KnepJQggyZBYyI8CWWwNb2SlVvK 5q32JLoB5r6BhjL0jTgZVO6A4mRQjHCexUR2ToJeVPx9MsNLKfR3D1ZrzKxBxHoszgSe KukXbR+N73IZfiIa6fizlC3pj0OSSVjV14WTU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=BKpQ9V/97Tft9ebLydyvGCKwVbYMbNEvEG/HfyUzb24I5yZ9j/IQJ6F8uGdI+rB93+ GpWftiqm7IxZGg7UAxJlAI9pSDAAvlxRlelfjqDM8/98i2jVTE3kuDaGOdO5HWHMndNN 64iULmBVPrz6++l2ZEQ8pkRLz1W1B2adOFvxQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 11:47:46 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: korg monotron From: Lindsey Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108908 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:47:48 +0000 (UTC) Hey, has anyone else played with the monotron? What did you do with it? I think it would be a fun sound source for loops, without sitting behind a laptop, of course. Lindsey From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 11 20:26:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 122E818349C; Mon, 11 Apr 2011 20:26:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1302553565; bh=1D+L2l3T6efo8dkZT2c2PBOzIOvtBkJnKJn9UW9ENOQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=q3uoCzV5LETyDRLLa+LNyaQFMvUvviQqwUIInFDp7czDjptoczZNNE9f5pT/f7dbdhAxr9tu3epfMCxIdfiw+WheuzZzjrVD0u/2RKEh7sp0TnDiYQB5f5ouvKvUNEU/pYkURAz5g2gOMXschH98q3MVLz+iE1uEPVLTtwZQyMk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LREGw9EW4e+IjaHbEEt+J1P2ALTu2zeSnZ/Y3szNecXGg/rQg9Aq3YCR3aadlrisDXXS9+AfQDyEFV+odmM/AOh/jnSt1gUOXd+YNkEIT1e1hMcUKWaSaWppazofxllrQQ9S7TxHpz8790aVDzRWylosZ+jnIKlCT3dlZ5a/3K4=; Message-ID: <916412.28761.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: I2E7ggIVM1kj41VnPDGvdQsfcuuJDdcfGtsEzdFz9NJ0PGa oSnnxg6OLGQuX46EXOOshmscbfVr6Q5hEW3zL8LEPz14GYZxOMIwxyLqb5jY d8QNyfzwitJIxSDVxO54NLs9bfY2qhWk2JYKPGeyGux1ewd9CLj9_2SAPbMM d_GdLI7HQz8vBL_.gsKPp5NJ0L_HASZsPQdBXArPpBN_MdeOgEva1RLvxb8. ND2CC1Us7qK240liVH66aNf98AsOUn6uzQv2V9x5jTeEazX1C8.no8h6PAoT 6TLkQTBeL0fWOtFcVt.v4ldsEBzkSSvx84daA2jT391B5.eF_o21xaK.G3rD r2Z8EClpPlWPiRMgVe7_tSSMmssADQbbcDdrXpRXadveSjLGbvcTciKOMW6P IbP0iWudC9YWdpQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/12.0.2 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 13:26:05 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Subject: Re: korg monotron To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1094459485-1302553565=:28761" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108909 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 20:26:07 +0000 (UTC) --0-1094459485-1302553565=:28761 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0 I had my hands on one for about 10minutes and wound up not buying it. =A0 That the keyboard is a ribbon and not individual keys was a real drawback;= =A0real keys would've been=A0nice,=A0as they had in the demo video I saw, b= ut I guess that was a pre-production version. =A0 And I do have rather unco-ordinated mitts for=A0hands, so=A0the teeny-tiny= =A0control dials=A0left me thinking I'd probably snap=A0them off in short o= rder. =A0 the other ted. Or would you sing somethin' different. Somethin' real. Somethin' *you* felt= . Cause I'm telling you right now, that's the kind of song people want to h= ear. That's the kind of song that truly saves people. It ain't got nothin t= o do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with believin' in yourse= lf. Sam Phillips, "Walk the Line" --- On Mon, 4/11/11, Lindsey Walker wrote: From: Lindsey Walker Subject: korg monotron To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Received: Monday, April 11, 2011, 11:47 AM Hey, has anyone else played with the monotron?=A0 What did you do with it?=A0 I think it would be a fun sound source for loops, without sitting behind a laptop, of course. Lindsey --0-1094459485-1302553565=:28761 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Michael's date is correct; if you look in the= liner notes from the first 4-CD set, some people wrote down the date they = added their tracks to the tape, and they're all slightly after April 1st, 1= 999... You might be thinking of the first LD Subscriber's Compilation CD th= at came out in 1998, (pre-Chain Tape). (I'm pretty sure that one WAS in pro= gress in '97...)

-t-

=0Ahttp://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson
= =0A

--- On Sat, 4/2/11, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:

From: Raul Bonell <ra= ul.bonell@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: CHAIN -TAPE COLLECTIVE
To: Loope= rs-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Saturday, April 2, 2011, 10:40 AM
 
I had my hands on one for about 10minutes and wound up not buying it.<= /DIV>
 
That the keyboard is a ribbon and not individual keys was a real drawb= ack; real keys would've been nice, as they had in the demo v= ideo I saw, but I guess that was a pre-production version.
 
And I do have rather unco-ordinated mitts for hands, so the = teeny-tiny control dials left me thinking I'd probably snap = them off in short order.

 
the other ted.

Or would you sing somethin' different. Somethin' real. Somethin' *= you* felt. Cause I'm telling you right now, that's the kind of song people = want to hear. That's the kind of song that truly saves people. It ain't got= nothin to do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with believin' = in yourself. Sam Phillips, "Walk the Line"

--- On Mon, 4/11/11, L= indsey Walker <lindsey.walker@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Lindsey Walker <lindsey.walker@gmail.com= >
Subject: korg monotron
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.comReceived: Monday, April 11, 2011, 11:47 AM

Hey, has anyone else played with the monotron? = What did you do with
it?  I think it would be a fun sound source f= or loops, without sitting
behind a laptop, of course.

Lindsey
=
--0-1094459485-1302553565=:28761-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 11 23:34:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F0A818349D; Mon, 11 Apr 2011 23:34:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3601 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 11 Apr 2011 23:34:04 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:33:45 -0400 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: The Art of Improvisation Photo Essay on Flickr Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <4IbtY.A.5MH.s_4oNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108910 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 23:34:04 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I've posted a photo essay titled "The Art of Improvisation" on Flickr. It can be seen at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157626472697534/ The Art of Improvisation is an extension of the "Improvisations from an Outpost" photo essay (http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157624670849749/). It contains images of improvised music and dance,taken at venues such as Outpost 186, 119 Gallery, and the Vision Festival. The images were taken improvisational, usually in low light and always without flash. Most of them have been processed improvisationally, usually in Photoshop. My thanks go out to all the musicians and dancers for the inspiration and opportunity to take these images, and to Rob Chalfen at the Outpost, and Walter and Mary Ann Wright at 119 Gallery . Musicians depicted are free to use these images if they wish. Check it out if you have the time, and let me know what you think of it. Thanks. -- " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 12 01:44:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3239018349D; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 01:44:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=QUh+xiflWJUlPOhRFwuX/npyWLP2WzXHWJrliLfX0lU=; b=x2KaH0/M+8KOLJUekdJeP/emGLTkamqjaNe58L725BiAZ34Vv0hNh0K8n8g54JiwX7 HmVagW+66nZzpQNA2lGSUxqqYWFApwilg0lBQjPBfHa9pUJ2iUcklAn5tI+NIOgHBz9K GXKKGxwLkdaWYsqhixbjPsYMRnbjbdSeNkOTY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=fBA7h3J41w+uMzsgsyCywefqogG+3Jjgq8WdHLPIIfuHSA7TAM/xi9+Pr15R1dYOl1 Jjdb1Xibgs87pwfJp0xJGCnfwKUWnAlkFRrJHheP4qJEZMaqAOhUQXbFUdwoGLe3M7VS uo4HEEaAk67wjsBCjnOwP4g3CiL/yVZfOI7/U= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 21:44:56 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: The Art of Improvisation Photo Essay on Flickr From: Jim Goodin To: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Cc: DrTVideo@egroups.com, eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a697d96c4304a0aed64c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108911 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 01:44:58 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a697d96c4304a0aed64c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Emile lovely work as always. Enjoyed the tight composition and mix of natural with PS manipulations. Jim PS was just in Boston this weekend accompanying my daughters school which participated in the Heritage Juried Choral and Instrumental Music competition. We were in Salem and North Shore but spent Saturday downtown. On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) < emile@foryourhead.com> wrote: > Hi folks, > > I've posted a photo essay titled "The Art of Improvisation" on Flickr. It > can be seen at > http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157626472697534/ > > The Art of Improvisation is an extension of the "Improvisations from an > Outpost" photo essay ( > http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157624670849749/). It > contains images of improvised music and dance,taken at venues such as > Outpost 186, 119 Gallery, and the Vision Festival. > > The images were taken improvisational, usually in low light and always > without flash. Most of them have been processed improvisationally, usuall= y > in Photoshop. > > My thanks go out to all the musicians and dancers for the inspiration and > opportunity to take these images, and to Rob Chalfen at the Outpost, and > Walter and Mary Ann Wright at 119 Gallery . Musicians depicted are free t= o > use these images if they wish. > > Check it out if you have the time, and let me know what you think of it. > Thanks. > -- > " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley > > Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. > Video Producer Image Processing Specialist > Video for your HEAD! Boris FX > http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf3054a697d96c4304a0aed64c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Emile lovely work as always. =A0Enjoyed the tight composition and mix of na= tural with PS manipulations.

Jim

PS was just in Boston this weekend accompanying my daughters school which= participated in the Heritage Juried Choral and Instrumental Music competit= ion. =A0We were in Salem and North Shore but spent Saturday downtown.

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Emile Toben= feld (a.k.a Dr. T) <emile@foryourhead.com> wrote:
Hi folks,

I've posted a photo essay titled "The Art of Improvisation" o= n Flickr. It can be seen at http://www.flickr.com/phot= os/22231918@N06/sets/72157626472697534/

The Art of Improvisation is an extension of the "Improvisations from a= n Outpost" photo essay (http://www.flickr.com/pho= tos/22231918@N06/sets/72157624670849749/). It contains images of improv= ised music and dance,taken at venues such as Outpost 186, 119 Gallery, and = the Vision Festival.

The images were taken improvisational, usually in low light and always with= out flash. Most of them have been processed improvisationally, usually in P= hotoshop.

My thanks go out to all the musicians and dancers for the inspiration and o= pportunity to take these images, and to Rob Chalfen at the Outpost, and Wal= ter and Mary Ann Wright at 119 Gallery . Musicians depicted are free to use= these images if they wish.

Check it out if you have the time, and let me know what you think of it. Th= anks.
--
" Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." =A0-- Paul Bley
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D.
Video Producer =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Image Processing Speciali= st
Video for your HEAD! =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Boris FX
http://www.foryour= head.com =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://www.borisfx.com



--
From Brooklyn= To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter= Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF Interna= tional.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--20cf3054a697d96c4304a0aed64c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 12 06:48:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 49E9718349C; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 06:48:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=v6IAJL0gWkuoyXagM38QnQg//V9ZT2nXJBLug4vvgfo=; b=Yv7qwz10TdzoTks6SxmoM5nijG1ItpRhOz18yYh4ShnXFhMVT6kwp+GKgYZt5DNxAy VJHjWl3tWIw8K/1vkEW86fIWc9PAdBkxLWVMKyGlH0khuYbEnLt8YwByBVu+N+sAq/Vi XX7lho5VI6vric8uLmXIL628NbgexL1ImyRrY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ewMQFBoK03PbbXQ+BYvosVAxs1wa3F+/Xu3LTkcF7c9/r4h9NPMayZOUZeh/fBv+ZK ucwtL+Pwo61JTaMuQQar2s4T0uapw/E3ydCWibhTOOw3mPGk19Q09I+pMXyk/iR8ifM/ EiUwKs1OMyN1mvYIXOF7wRxEeW37OrPNGgQZU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 08:48:23 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: our war on nature,when will it stop... (O.T.) From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <9gq7JB.A.HfC.5W_oNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108912 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 06:48:25 +0000 (UTC) sorry to bring this up but i think is important information http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=24268 http://www.warandpeace.ru/en/exclusive/view/52992/ http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/04/12/japan.nuclear.reactors/index.html?hpt=T1 hearing about the devastating state of japan this morning already at alarm level 7 and reading this links,i felt like going into a corner and crying really more so when i look at my kids and what they might have to perhaps confront,it seems like time is runing out faster than i thought... its also kind of ackward to see these countries which are considered " first world" turning the world upside down then again we just go about it like it will get resolved by itself by dumping nuclear waste onto the ocean and cure our depression by further consuming, oh yes is so bad, but dont raise our energy bill and gas prices sorry again but this is just too depressing and im angry,will we ever wake up... Luis www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 12 07:39:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E8A4183453; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 07:39:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_f008712d-606e-4e6c-be0b-e0cb8671597c_" X-Originating-IP: [86.136.121.139] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: our war on nature,when will it stop... (O.T.) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 07:39:14 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Apr 2011 07:39:15.0112 (UTC) FILETIME=[B90DEA80:01CBF8E4] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108913 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 07:39:16 +0000 (UTC) --_f008712d-606e-4e6c-be0b-e0cb8671597c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Louie=2C=20 I'm with you all the way mate but I see ontherwise enlightened people thoug= htlessly wasting energy all the time. It's sad. Peace g Gareth@Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > Date: Tue=2C 12 Apr 2011 08:48:23 +0200 > Subject: our war on nature=2Cwhen will it stop... (O.T.) > From: louie.angulo@googlemail.com > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > sorry to bring this up but i think is important information >=20 > http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=3Dva&aid=3D24268 >=20 > http://www.warandpeace.ru/en/exclusive/view/52992/ >=20 > http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/04/12/japan.nuclear.reactors/in= dex.html?hpt=3DT1 >=20 > hearing about the devastating state of japan this morning already at > alarm level 7 and reading this links=2Ci felt like going into a corner > and crying really > more so when i look at my kids and what they might have to perhaps > confront=2Cit seems like time is runing out faster than i thought... > its also kind of ackward to see these countries which are considered " > first world" turning the world upside down > then again we just go about it like it will get resolved by itself by > dumping nuclear waste onto the ocean and cure our depression by > further consuming=2C > oh yes is so bad=2C but dont raise our energy bill and gas prices > sorry again but this is just too depressing and im angry=2Cwill we ever w= ake up... > Luis >=20 > www.luis-angulo.com >=20 = --_f008712d-606e-4e6c-be0b-e0cb8671597c_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Louie=2C
I'm with you all the way mate but I see ontherwise enlighte= ned people thoughtlessly wasting energy all the time. It's sad.

Peac= e

g

Gareth@Sentientfx - =3B Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/



>=3B Date: Tue=2C 12 Apr 2011 08:48:23 +0200
>=3B S= ubject: our war on nature=2Cwhen will it stop... (O.T.)
>=3B From: lou= ie.angulo@googlemail.com
>=3B To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com<= br>>=3B
>=3B sorry to bring this up but i think is important inform= ation
>=3B
>=3B http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context= =3Dva&=3Baid=3D24268
>=3B
>=3B http://www.warandpeace.ru/en/e= xclusive/view/52992/
>=3B
>=3B http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD= /asiapcf/04/12/japan.nuclear.reactors/index.html?hpt=3DT1
>=3B
>= =3B hearing about the devastating state of japan this morning already at>=3B alarm level 7 and reading this links=2Ci felt like going into a cor= ner
>=3B and crying really
>=3B more so when i look at my kids an= d what they might have to perhaps
>=3B confront=2Cit seems like time i= s runing out faster than i thought...
>=3B its also kind of ackward to= see these countries which are considered "
>=3B first world" turning = the world upside down
>=3B then again we just go about it like it will= get resolved by itself by
>=3B dumping nuclear waste onto the ocean a= nd cure our depression by
>=3B further consuming=2C
>=3B oh yes i= s so bad=2C but dont raise our energy bill and gas prices
>=3B sorry a= gain but this is just too depressing and im angry=2Cwill we ever wake up...=
>=3B Luis
>=3B
>=3B www.luis-angulo.com
>=3B
= = --_f008712d-606e-4e6c-be0b-e0cb8671597c_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 12 11:11:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6066518349E; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 11:11:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1302606675; bh=7EZbfKTuMEIh4b7ymKYL85V5hMG4q/DiXl5mH/ZfeuM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zvxkHWLruMGlxL88LeGm0B3x7kJiX/1XoQxFh4V8UkZsqvxrviS+Z7mc1lraGa/3u4kLefXXuz/vDWfdLkeHUm+ZcuR0GSS5LJ02YLHUSe9Px9xQfE2K6EfWziFusbE9LNBINmgpqEwRANt9oXMeEOf9Fs6XjpCvg/rDQ/sv8tY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=aFGNaq+lIVJaMnFeMwSuFcv89OlcfLVYr+zWZhgS+10L4syR/rcHkQh9YETOTnTs1VODEcdY4iPGfSEQpTrAaC6srR6oU+yoUniqg1mPRq9ze8gN3PmM2cEbNwfpDS2x6vzfEL9KWDPSoDLIyflPhqEYSKCf7yqcBzOazf0J9D8=; Message-ID: <402965.80621.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: YsSWz6YVM1nS3wMWQe961zOBpaepifrDtsAES9_SH0Jr1Sh 0po7hQYnumDmNU1BQYkXYBbnsJAiC00O0dpgsnCbtEKvGQmd_8i2u681YKcW yvCCT0JGsl5rUR7Q6_r3fOc4KgDKuHd4YS5rAXvV0dNZLfEZKoMWfz8dvfHY mLFRQx4SKiGtkWnXUtf0wVMo_Hnv0MATWns7Ky1JPH9gABEq7ps9cY_NfZlA q.5fqmamOraI0u.9BkHAEadXdDzQbgV8v_WJwOCbN7Jh5eOxs_8l9MA.St9d 1Ckv.LO9fO0Mvht1zDdxo0RGLzLsWtqjsKPg0Vsj81QFx1pSt5_QlsfPZWPV 7GQ59ft2IUwviiVkps1A7iZAN5GR9mNrq0rsE1xn14QzJBmQoo0A- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 References: Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 04:11:15 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: our war on nature,when will it stop... (O.T.) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-132935308-1302606675=:80621" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108914 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 11:11:17 +0000 (UTC) --0-132935308-1302606675=:80621 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii we all have to make some real changes! Antony ________________________________ From: Gareth Whittock To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tue, April 12, 2011 9:39:14 AM Subject: RE: our war on nature,when will it stop... (O.T.) Hi Louie, I'm with you all the way mate but I see ontherwise enlightened people thoughtlessly wasting energy all the time. It's sad. Peace g Gareth@Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 08:48:23 +0200 > Subject: our war on nature,when will it stop... (O.T.) > From: louie.angulo@googlemail.com > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > > sorry to bring this up but i think is important information > > http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=24268 > > http://www.warandpeace.ru/en/exclusive/view/52992/ > >http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/04/12/japan.nuclear.reactors/index.html?hpt=T1 >1 > > hearing about the devastating state of japan this morning already at > alarm level 7 and reading this links,i felt like going into a corner > and crying really > more so when i look at my kids and what they might have to perhaps > confront,it seems like time is runing out faster than i thought... > its also kind of ackward to see these countries which are considered " > first world" turning the world upside down > then again we just go about it like it will get resolved by itself by > dumping nuclear waste onto the ocean and cure our depression by > further consuming, > oh yes is so bad, but dont raise our energy bill and gas prices > sorry again but this is just too depressing and im angry,will we ever wake >up... > Luis > > www.luis-angulo.com > --0-132935308-1302606675=:80621 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
we all have to make some real changes!

Antony

From: Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk>
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Tue, April 12, 2011 9:39:14 AM
Subject: RE: our war on nature,when will it stop... (O.T.)

Hi Louie,
I'm with you all the way mate but I see ontherwise enlightened people thoughtlessly wasting energy all the time. It's sad.

Peace

g

Gareth@Sentientfx -  Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/



> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 08:48:23 +0200
> Subject: our war on nature,when will it stop... (O.T.)
> From: louie.angulo@googlemail.com
> To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
>
> sorry to bring this up but i think is important information
>
> http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=24268
>
> http://www.warandpeace.ru/en/exclusive/view/52992/
>
> http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/04/12/japan.nuclear.reactors/index.html?hpt=T1
>
> hearing about the devastating state of japan this morning already at
> alarm level 7 and reading this links,i felt like going into a corner
> and crying really
> more so when i look at my kids and what they might have to perhaps
> confront,it seems like time is runing out faster than i thought...
> its also kind of ackward to see these countries which are considered "
> first world" turning the world upside down
> then again we just go about it like it will get resolved by itself by
> dumping nuclear waste onto the ocean and cure our depression by
> further consuming,
> oh yes is so bad, but dont raise our energy bill and gas prices
> sorry again but this is just too depressing and im angry,will we ever wake up...
> Luis
>
> www.luis-angulo.com
>

--0-132935308-1302606675=:80621-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 12 12:17:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C936B183486; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:17:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=W2j7qQPkonnn8nNQTxtSpzaC5jxo4K2RjiGZShyWVd8=; b=HcNu2FXNhe2LdanLjkAbNwTNbbp+7j+ILLR63FAZoOPA4kyyywDrVJdt9GzWn93g9U 5k6DZFFqQjB+qrOmHsKqALYtx8iRrKKCx+3yuaM37ErJ44M8xm2bdvdREezObIsWlV3E oaU7WidCHc3rllgMNWH+7Swf11rgus04KEcyg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=qxyun5uiloy59ASFAsWm8qS+Z8V9fmN1fORFMhwkZ4jWf4NrVcFU+17Ftjg/Ol8Ksg 657oKdBbSa6ynDFm9Yc5Imq4aKruALXF49+ekQuOSjGKTQk0w4M7Je9/rmQxo3+FxqMe WgyB6Vrxfre7mYWuavs0NAy/Hq2zen0FqdTRo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <402965.80621.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <402965.80621.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 08:17:37 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: our war on nature,when will it stop... (O.T.) From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747849e88d85d04a0b7ad2b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108915 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:17:39 +0000 (UTC) --00151747849e88d85d04a0b7ad2b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Louis I'm with you as well. It's just tough nut, nuclear energy. It has brought us many pluses but as they say at what cost and no one knows. Ther= e have been so many protests of concern over the years and in response to Japan I penned a set of rare lyrics in our ImprovFriday benefit for Japan, that was inspired by a flash of Karen Silkwood in my mind. It's horribly tragic what has occurred in Japan and though the world has returned to 'moving on' and it will get resolved, it was a major wake-up and reminder o= f the risk of nuclear energy. Your sadness/sobriety/entropy does not go unnoticed. Jim On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 7:11 AM, wrote: > we all have to make some real changes! > > Antony > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Gareth Whittock > > *To:* loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Tue, April 12, 2011 9:39:14 AM > *Subject:* RE: our war on nature,when will it stop... (O.T.) > > Hi Louie, > I'm with you all the way mate but I see ontherwise enlightened people > thoughtlessly wasting energy all the time. It's sad. > > Peace > > g > > Gareth@Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > > > > > Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 08:48:23 +0200 > > Subject: our war on nature,when will it stop... (O.T.) > > From: louie.angulo@googlemail.com > > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > > > > sorry to bring this up but i think is important information > > > > http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=3Dva&aid=3D24268 > > > > http://www.warandpeace.ru/en/exclusive/view/52992/ > > > > > http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/04/12/japan.nuclear.reactors/in= dex.html?hpt=3DT1 > > > > hearing about the devastating state of japan this morning already at > > alarm level 7 and reading this links,i felt like going into a corner > > and crying really > > more so when i look at my kids and what they might have to perhaps > > confront,it seems like time is runing out faster than i thought... > > its also kind of ackward to see these countries which are considered " > > first world" turning the world upside down > > then again we just go about it like it will get resolved by itself by > > dumping nuclear waste onto the ocean and cure our depression by > > further consuming, > > oh yes is so bad, but dont raise our energy bill and gas prices > > sorry again but this is just too depressing and im angry,will we ever > wake up... > > Luis > > > > www.luis-angulo.com > > > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --00151747849e88d85d04a0b7ad2b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Louis I'm with you as well. =A0It's just tough nut, nuclear energy.= =A0It has brought us many pluses but as they say at what cost and no one k= nows. =A0There have been so many protests of concern over the years and in = response to Japan I penned a set of rare lyrics in our ImprovFriday benefit= for Japan, that was inspired by a flash of Karen Silkwood in my mind. =A0I= t's horribly tragic what has occurred in Japan and though the world has= returned to 'moving on' and it will get resolved, it was a major w= ake-up and reminder of the risk of nuclear energy. =A0Your sadness/sobriety= /entropy does not go unnoticed.

Jim

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 7:11 AM, <an= tonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:
we all have to make some real change= s!

Antony

From: Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk&= gt;Sent:= Tue, April 12, 2011 9:39:14 AM
Subject: RE: our war on natu= re,when will it stop... (O.T.)

Hi Louie,
I'm with you all the way mate but I see ontherwise enligh= tened people thoughtlessly wasting energy all the time. It's sad.
Peace

g

Gareth@Sentientfx -=A0 Innovative music plugi= ns. http://sentientfx.= com/



> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 08:48:23 +0200
> Subject: our= war on nature,when will it stop... (O.T.)
> From: louie.angulo@googlemail.com<= /a>
> To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
>
> sorry to br= ing this up but i think is important information
>
> http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=3Dva&= ;aid=3D24268
>
> http://www.warandpeace.ru/en/exclusive/view/52992= /
>
> http://edition.cnn.com/2011/= WORLD/asiapcf/04/12/japan.nuclear.reactors/index.html?hpt=3DT1>
> hearing about the devastating state of japan this morning already at> alarm level 7 and reading this links,i felt like going into a corner=
> and crying really
> more so when i look at my kids and what = they might have to perhaps
> confront,it seems like time is runing out faster than i thought...
= > its also kind of ackward to see these countries which are considered &= quot;
> first world" turning the world upside down
> then = again we just go about it like it will get resolved by itself by
> dumping nuclear waste onto the ocean and cure our depression by
>= ; further consuming,
> oh yes is so bad, but dont raise our energy bi= ll and gas prices
> sorry again but this is just too depressing and im angry,will we ever wake up...
> Luis
&= gt;
> www.l= uis-angulo.com
>
=20




--
From Bro= oklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & = Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF In= ternational.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--00151747849e88d85d04a0b7ad2b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 12 12:17:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 562281834A2; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:17:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:17:41 UTC From: Eduardo Martinez Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-33028260 Subject: OT: Re: our war on nature,when will it stop Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 08:10:58 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20110412111118.156F418349F@arsenic.violacea.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <20110412111118.156F418349F@arsenic.violacea.com> Message-Id: <20CB33C8-00E3-4C43-B5BC-99D5E4C66825@EduardoMartinez.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108916 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:17:42 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-33028260 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii There is always hope, Louie... "Bolivia's mother of all laws enshrines rights of nature: LA PAZ: Bolivia is set to pass the world's first laws granting nature = equal rights to humans. The Law of Mother Earth, now agreed by = politicians and grassroots social groups, redefines the country's rich = mineral deposits as ''blessings'' and is expected to bring radical new = conservation and social measures to reduce pollution and control = industry. = http://www.smh.com.au/world/bolivias-mother-of-all-laws-enshrines-rights-o= f-nature-20110411-1db10.html Blessings, Eduardo Martinez musician - composer - artist www.EduardoMartinez.com Nashua, NH U.S.A. On 12 Apr, 2011, at 7:11 AM, = Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote: > our war on nature,when will it stop. [ Louie Angulo = From: Louie Angulo > Date: 12 April, 2011 2:48:23 AM EDT > To: Loopers Delight > Subject: our war on nature,when will it stop... (O.T.) >=20 >=20 > sorry to bring this up but i think is important information >=20 > http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=3Dva&aid=3D24268 >=20 > http://www.warandpeace.ru/en/exclusive/view/52992/ >=20 > = http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/04/12/japan.nuclear.reactors/ind= ex.html?hpt=3DT1 >=20 > hearing about the devastating state of japan this morning already at > alarm level 7 and reading this links,i felt like going into a corner > and crying really > more so when i look at my kids and what they might have to perhaps > confront,it seems like time is runing out faster than i thought... > its also kind of ackward to see these countries which are considered " > first world" turning the world upside down > then again we just go about it like it will get resolved by itself by > dumping nuclear waste onto the ocean and cure our depression by > further consuming, > oh yes is so bad, but dont raise our energy bill and gas prices > sorry again but this is just too depressing and im angry,will we ever = wake up... > Luis >=20 > www.luis-angulo.com --Apple-Mail-2-33028260 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii There = is always hope, Louie...

"Bolivia's mother of all = laws enshrines rights of nature:
LA PAZ: Bolivia is set to = pass the world's first laws granting nature equal rights to humans. The = Law of Mother Earth, now agreed by politicians and grassroots social = groups, redefines the country's rich mineral deposits as ''blessings'' = and is expected to bring radical new conservation and social measures to = reduce pollution and control industry.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/bolivias= -mother-of-all-laws-enshrines-rights-of-nature-20110411-1db10.html
=

Blessings,

Eduardo = Martinez
musician - composer - = artist
www.EduardoMartinez.com
Nashua, NH U.S.A.


On 12 Apr, 2011, at 7:11 AM, = Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote:

 our = war on nature,when will it stop.  [ Louie Angulo = <louie.angulo@googlema ]
From: = Louie Angulo = <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
Date: 12 April, 2011 2:48:23 AM EDT
To: = Loopers Delight = <loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com>
Subject: = our war on nature,when will it stop... = (O.T.)


sorry to bring this up but i think is = important = information

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=3Dva&= ;aid=3D24268

http://www.warandpeace.ru/en/exclusive/view/52992/
=
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/04/12/japan.nuclear.reactors= /index.html?hpt=3DT1

hearing about the devastating state of japan = this morning already at
alarm level 7 and reading this links,i felt = like going into a corner
and crying really
more so when i look at = my kids and what they might have to perhaps
confront,it seems like = time is runing out faster than i thought...
its also kind of ackward = to see these countries which are considered "
first world" turning = the world upside down
then again we just go about it like it will get = resolved by itself by
dumping nuclear waste onto the ocean and cure = our depression by
further consuming,
oh yes is so bad, but dont = raise our energy bill and gas prices
sorry again but this is just too = depressing and im angry,will we ever wake = up...
Luis

www.luis-angulo.com
= --Apple-Mail-2-33028260-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 12 12:27:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10399183453; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:27:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DA44526.3000905@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 05:27:18 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lindsey Walker CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: korg monotron References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108917 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:27:29 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Lindsey Walker wrote: > Hey, has anyone else played with the monotron? What did you do with > it? I think it would be a fun sound source for loops, without sitting > behind a laptop, of course. > > Lindsey I don't own one, but I've played around with one a bit at Union Grove Music. What strikes me is that a 'musical', (that is , melodic) instrument , it is very limited for the previously mentioned lack of individual keys. However, as a sound source or noise source with a fair amount of sophistication in terms of bang for the buck, I think it's really wonderful. Also, from my understanding, you can run any audio through it's filter system as an 'effect' which is also very hip. When I have the dough, I'll be buying one, for sure, myself for my Rhythm and Noise project, aEther Engine. Hope you are doing well, Lindsey. We really missed you at the Looping Festival this year. I hope you'll come play Y2K11. hugs, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 12 13:43:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 08366183486; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 13:43:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=y86vpFeyjrslGjeGxlh9g9gne2uUyEhefNnyrRnBcQA=; b=Pv5118YRtsNSEG3Y7U+3071M5cWas7HZAos3k6GdQqGFVD1bUjT81l4rTAAtq70n4b mEiDSlCkZVrRgHg0INHu9BYBun8dFAFTk5dR/MnaWsv+Cb5hHNwTdYrXBdQ3OFyAE2Gp wNWL222XxDmPvEA5T5l9eQbFCUmdm/FR0upp4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=GQqyLkTNBaGT1v9a7O331sB4RSTcdBfMnCPgvajMZ6XTQmkJucjdAwqtQ3CD/YMHJ8 Nvk0G8Lv4UWj40hxjmgWQC1/PwNvGKYnnbxNv3xb+nNJm3aXySZYO3y2bEEAQbud2dXU omjyxp7k6faEDNt73X2egOGvi13uvsWXR9ffM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 14:43:52 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: well ableton live is pretty cool, isn't it! From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6ed24f8499004a0b8e1a1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108918 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 13:43:53 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6ed24f8499004a0b8e1a1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 hello, my name is simeon and i'm a mobius user.... tried hosting in mainstage 2...ugh...terrible cpu usage...crippled my whole machine tried bidule...wonderful bit of software, but had some issues with cpu and memory and boy, it's just so ugly now i'm using ableton - stable, pretty to look at and good with cpu! downside - rubbish with incoming clock. had to ditch nearly all the third party plugins i was using and make new effects using ableton's own ones. upside - clips! wow! terrific - i can send midi controller data to filters and loop it in sync, or send midi commands to mobius (shuffle track two every 4 bars while overdubbing on track three, anybody?!). oh and fire off a drum loop or two... :) hoorah! now to finish recording my album and stop messing about with all this software...! s --000e0cd6ed24f8499004a0b8e1a1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello, my name is simeon and i'm a mobius user....

t= ried hosting in mainstage 2...ugh...terrible cpu usage...crippled my whole = machine

tried bidule...wonderful bit of software, = but had some issues with cpu and memory and boy, it's just so ugly

now i'm using ableton - stable, pretty to look at a= nd good with cpu!

downside - rubbish with incoming= clock. had to ditch nearly all the third party plugins i was using and mak= e new effects using ableton's own ones.

upside - clips! wow! terrific - i can send midi control= ler data to filters and loop it in sync, or send midi commands to mobius (s= huffle track two every 4 bars while overdubbing on track three, anybody?!).= oh and fire off a drum loop or two... :)

hoorah!

now to finish recordin= g my album and stop messing about with all this software...!

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--000e0cd6ed24f8499004a0b8e1a1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 12 14:30:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2552A183486; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 14:30:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-04-12_06:2011-04-12,2011-04-12,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1104120074 Subject: Re: well ableton live is pretty cool, isn't it! From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 07:29:50 -0700 Message-id: <1947BB3F-40B6-4EDC-9A11-77A0FBBD761A@mac.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108919 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 14:30:12 +0000 (UTC) > now i'm using ableton - stable, pretty to look at and good with cpu! Me 2! Ableton + Mobius is the most rewarding and speediest learning curve I have ever scaled in the looping domain. Thats not say its easy. Just incredibly worth it. I love my looping rig. Daniel On Apr 12, 2011, at 6:43 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > hello, my name is simeon and i'm a mobius user.... > > tried hosting in mainstage 2...ugh...terrible cpu usage...crippled my whole machine > > tried bidule...wonderful bit of software, but had some issues with cpu and memory and boy, it's just so ugly > > now i'm using ableton - stable, pretty to look at and good with cpu! > > downside - rubbish with incoming clock. had to ditch nearly all the third party plugins i was using and make new effects using ableton's own ones. > > upside - clips! wow! terrific - i can send midi controller data to filters and loop it in sync, or send midi commands to mobius (shuffle track two every 4 bars while overdubbing on track three, anybody?!). oh and fire off a drum loop or two... :) > > hoorah! > > now to finish recording my album and stop messing about with all this software...! > > s From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 12 14:32:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B722183449; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 14:32:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-04-12_06:2011-04-12,2011-04-12,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1104120075 Subject: Re: korg monotron From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: <4DA44526.3000905@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 07:32:54 -0700 Cc: Lindsey Walker Message-id: <50A0CC9E-06D6-47E0-8330-89FA05B166F4@mac.com> References: <4DA44526.3000905@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108920 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 14:32:56 +0000 (UTC) > However, as a sound source or noise source with a fair amount of sophistication in terms of bang for the buck.. I just couldn't get passed the lamo keyboard. For someone with a modicum of key chops, this is a big and unnecessary product limitation. D On Apr 12, 2011, at 5:27 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Lindsey Walker wrote: >> Hey, has anyone else played with the monotron? What did you do with >> it? I think it would be a fun sound source for loops, without sitting >> behind a laptop, of course. >> >> Lindsey > I don't own one, but I've played around with one a bit at Union Grove Music. > > What strikes me is that a 'musical', (that is , melodic) instrument , it is very limited for the previously > mentioned lack of individual keys. > > However, as a sound source or noise source with a fair amount of sophistication in terms of bang for the buck, > I think it's really wonderful. > > Also, from my understanding, you can run any audio through it's filter system as an 'effect' which is > also very hip. > > When I have the dough, I'll be buying one, for sure, myself for my Rhythm and Noise project, aEther Engine. > > Hope you are doing well, Lindsey. We really missed you at the Looping Festival this year. I hope you'll come > play Y2K11. > > hugs, Rick > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 12 14:37:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A27118349C; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 14:37:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eaiN1WY42J/Dhq95TCd2ALhlSVlMZxYXTN/gbg8KGS0=; b=bCRUhc7HZtb6rTo4pDXILh7Oa+RzNgm36vTEwSzf+6mKyylg8Ah40IL4p8xCm3JUqM ATGhWjHp1lzE+1MjrFzHqtZhiD05sLxJ3+CCjMk2g6M3qMvzMGyw+lXDF6a/wW74Lz11 fEWKFQgayCh9Bq5ldDgsLIVWfQ0TpwI0CLYn8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=WC9s7D7OI+mxsL0g7zLMGA56iZYVTd3x8D7DOhmhv7x6gq1Gp1W3ueubCE4qCoSJeW rjBetkrguntYcEM713rIjy5qmH2TG6g8MXsDfFWs60jI0OKZRgH4rFDuGrzGMiOp+RLF Qfwifq715wtHd+btMno57ailLhZi+1On+q+ko= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 16:37:05 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: well ableton live is pretty cool, isn't it! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <_BRXHC.A.3RH.SOGpNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108921 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 14:37:06 +0000 (UTC) Glad you're on a rewarding track now with your big rig change project! Yep, I agree. Live is cool due to the MIDI clips option to control loopers. I used mainly Ableton before Mainstage came around, but since then I use Mainstage 1 because it has better MIDI clock sync (following my adventurous tempo changes in the Mobius looper) and also because I am able to pick a sparse palette of plugins that give me even lower CPU use than Ableton and Bidule. As for Mainstage 2 I've actually never migrated there yet, not stable with the multi plugin parmeter morphing I like to do. With every combination of host application and palette of plugins there are pros and cons and for the plugins I like to use Mainstage 1 has proven the best sounding host solution. Actually, many of the Mobius scripts I still use today started as Ableton Live MIDI clips to control an Electrixpro Repeater ten years ago ;-)) Not much new here on the tech side I guess, but to me that means good soil for musical progression. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > hello, my name is simeon and i'm a mobius user.... > tried hosting in mainstage 2...ugh...terrible cpu usage...crippled my whole > machine > tried bidule...wonderful bit of software, but had some issues with cpu and > memory and boy, it's just so ugly > now i'm using ableton - stable, pretty to look at and good with cpu! > downside - rubbish with incoming clock. had to ditch nearly all the third > party plugins i was using and make new effects using ableton's own ones. > upside - clips! wow! terrific - i can send midi controller data to filters > and loop it in sync, or send midi commands to mobius (shuffle track two > every 4 bars while overdubbing on track three, anybody?!). oh and fire off a > drum loop or two... :) > hoorah! > now to finish recording my album and stop messing about with all this > software...! > s From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 12 15:43:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10B6D183486; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 15:43:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: OT: Wanted: Roland GK-3 MIDI Pick-up Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 08:43:23 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108922 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 15:43:30 +0000 (UTC) Maybe........ the only issue I see is shipping it from the states to you. I'll figure out what I want for it. If I were to send it as a gift and not state its real value it might work. If you are interested tell me what ideally "cheap" means to you :-) Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 12 15:56:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A31CB183486; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 15:55:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=MAfXzwKot7pUfeafxGE3bXwDvOUZ1s/WCCwWEyMC4UY=; b=vZX3bEZSkgsPiS6HcUOAUKaJtpr+TY7c+VhiB0M6HmqlvqNeAFO4pnZIOxjFonH+ow OUEjDlY+Hp2xsGmYBYN6XhP500n1yp2Ru+1m2AwZ9gY3xtul18K3lEq3ezx+IV27NQ47 rOm8x7ANJ5rIKVEYwD1mLEYPYfchxNDYbaI6A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ire7CDhqt4EOAji6JrLMC8cHWCFXc5ACjkBCXjk4EEKnd+OjrRsoJmwz+doUHwtwOu MNICxu14TPDIdDEU6hjiaYldy+WnEOErEuxD40Ss01xQnNG+7k9bxkgimorpE6siTuma Zfrz/Z+UpBpiG1suBPhNtqW77u7a5E9ueUyL8= Message-ID: <4DA4760A.3030003@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 17:55:54 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBXaWVybm93b2xza2k=?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; pl-PL; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110223 Thunderbird/3.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: korg monotron References: <4DA44526.3000905@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4DA44526.3000905@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108923 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 15:55:59 +0000 (UTC) You may wish to take a look at the Korg monotribe, which has just been announced. It's based on similar concepts as monotrone, but is much more advanced with things like drums and step sequencer. Quite obviously the price will also be more advanced;-) It somehow addresses the problem with ribbon controller you've mentioned by offering chromatic mode. Regards, Michał On 12.04.2011 14:27, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Lindsey Walker wrote: >> Hey, has anyone else played with the monotron? What did you do with >> it? I think it would be a fun sound source for loops, without sitting >> behind a laptop, of course. >> >> Lindsey > I don't own one, but I've played around with one a bit at Union Grove > Music. > > What strikes me is that a 'musical', (that is , melodic) instrument , > it is very limited for the previously > mentioned lack of individual keys. > > However, as a sound source or noise source with a fair amount of > sophistication in terms of bang for the buck, > I think it's really wonderful. > > Also, from my understanding, you can run any audio through it's > filter system as an 'effect' which is > also very hip. > > When I have the dough, I'll be buying one, for sure, myself for my > Rhythm and Noise project, aEther Engine. > > Hope you are doing well, Lindsey. We really missed you at the > Looping Festival this year. I hope you'll come > play Y2K11. > > hugs, Rick > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 12 18:08:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D024183486; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:08:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1302631681; bh=JzD3JJ+qPdzfYhgtFv6L8Nsiv5WjdFHQG3jhHlbKFf8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JgKBVs50JOonRhxv43pcwRm3WKTV0DlpkELVmXt2d5RJVV+NnoWBppxraeP6DDUHPcEpxXmTbRIONz1j9jfgsSfupTZHHBwlP1Dki/8WupoV8QyqxSVH2mf7JbFNGpteSU0s0YZC2YtK/wDUoc8SByg8tlbFozaMaS8yMElAKAM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JcDdnZaFq6DZHFZq9ufrXx7u/jy09JvhKpPn92UNNsR0be54ly72hfiq1JAIlvw5cbNRoOGuMNY57FU3MFiXj1PDZcVNBgqLV7b/NS8EYfeWz2I38RC7QiiYZ/CZClN8hbhIUTP1hnt5pDKXwYPc10RvUR9byWoZrxplifjETps=; Message-ID: <647903.12280.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: gcCxdKEVM1nZT2wubgmehAa_HW2S60o4mWH9wbK8r.DNqU2 fFxyJFO7sFDeF.5pS9hDcTEzFQKQsP1eG5ScJELrMP3HQ3Kypnlr8TklKqst DgPTzq_x0pZ9lvvnisMW1lazDj1mFympH34ahthPi4SxQmBeNW9j1hoTKqFH 1qaTGfqCvYx4JnDQOyiw9YdmHBu1kaQgdUF.N3VDi9fAUJy_L52Jk.veIjNF ISCtf7BbyOGhG7ik0hy1P8HT69qduQesViXp_ezVf_4eW5D5I2ACISkCXkju 5gGeeXP9E4tXzO8ozmrWXM5glOyEm8STnCJXCsbliOQYqVNmD2oA31dWKhJg On.Zb9eHy5xbIFDqxtvTQfK5kuQU8.zH.bynm8q871kq8ETd8r1xcLj5LOn1 wkMAeM0yEp6adYQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/12.0.2 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 11:08:01 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Subject: Re: korg monotron To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4DA4760A.3030003@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1384464135-1302631681=:12280" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108924 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:08:04 +0000 (UTC) --0-1384464135-1302631681=:12280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =C2=A0 The monotribe does like interesting...=C2=A0 www.korg.com/monotribe =C2=A0 Weird that they made the input jack 1/8" but the output is 1/4"...=C2=A0 Wh= y not two 1/4"? =C2=A0 =C2=A0 the other ted. Or would you sing somethin' different. Somethin' real. Somethin' *you* felt= . Cause I'm telling you right now, that's the kind of song people want to h= ear. That's the kind of song that truly saves people. It ain't got nothin t= o do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with believin' in yourse= lf. Sam Phillips, "Walk the Line" --- On Tue, 4/12/11, Micha=C5=82 Wiernowolski wrote: From: Micha=C5=82 Wiernowolski Subject: Re: korg monotron To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Received: Tuesday, April 12, 2011, 8:55 AM You may wish to take a look at the Korg monotribe, which has just been anno= unced. It's based on similar concepts as monotrone, but is much more advanced with= things like drums and step sequencer. Quite obviously the price will also be more advan= ced;-) It somehow addresses the problem with ribbon controller you've mentioned by= offering chromatic mode. Regards, Micha=C5=82 On 12.04.2011 14:27, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Lindsey Walker wrote: >> Hey, has anyone else played with the monotron?=C2=A0 What did you do wit= h >> it?=C2=A0 I think it would be a fun sound source for loops, without sitt= ing >> behind a laptop, of course. >>=20 >> Lindsey > I don't own one, but I've played around with one a bit at Union Grove Mus= ic. >=20 > What strikes me is that a 'musical', (that is , melodic) instrument , it = is very limited for the previously > mentioned lack of individual keys. >=20 > However, as a sound source or noise source with a fair amount of sophisti= cation in terms of bang for the buck, > I think it's really wonderful. >=20 > Also,=C2=A0 from my understanding,=C2=A0 you can run any audio through it= 's filter system as an 'effect' which is > also very hip. >=20 > When I have the dough,=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0I'll be buying one, for sure, mys= elf for my Rhythm and Noise project,=C2=A0 aEther Engine. >=20 > Hope you are doing well, Lindsey.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 We really missed you at th= e Looping Festival this year.=C2=A0 I hope you'll come > play Y2K11. >=20 > hugs,=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Rick >=20 >=20 --0-1384464135-1302631681=:12280 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
The monotribe does like interesting...  www.korg.com/monotribe
 
Weird that they made the input jack 1/8" but the output is 1/4"...&nbs= p; Why not two 1/4"?
 
 
the other ted.

Or would you sing somethin' different. Somethin'= real. Somethin' *you* felt. Cause I'm telling you right now, that's the ki= nd of song people want to hear. That's the kind of song that truly saves pe= ople. It ain't got nothin to do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to = do with believin' in yourself. Sam Phillips, "Walk the Line"

--- On = Tue, 4/12/11, Micha=C5=82 Wiernowolski <mihalw@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Micha=C5=82 Wiernowolski <mihalw@gmail.c= om>
Subject: Re: korg monotron
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight= .com
Received: Tuesday, April 12, 2011, 8:55 AM

You may wish to take a look at the Korg monotribe, w= hich has just been announced.
It's based on similar concepts as monotron= e, but is much more advanced with things like
drums and step sequencer. = Quite obviously the price will also be more advanced;-)
It somehow addre= sses the problem with ribbon controller you've mentioned by offering chroma= tic mode.

Regards,
Micha=C5=82


On 12.04.2011 14:27, Ri= ck Walker wrote:
> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Lindsey Walker wrote:
>= > Hey, has anyone else played with the monotron?  What did you do w= ith
>> it?  I think it would be a fun sound source for loops,= without sitting
>> behind a laptop, of course.
>>
&g= t;> Lindsey
> I don't own one, but I've played around with one a b= it at Union Grove Music.
>
> What strikes me is that a 'musica= l', (that is , melodic) instrument , it is very limited for the previously
> mentioned lack of individual keys.
>
> How= ever, as a sound source or noise source with a fair amount of sophisticatio= n in terms of bang for the buck,
> I think it's really wonderful.
= >
> Also,  from my understanding,  you can run any audi= o through it's filter system as an 'effect' which is
> also very hip.=
>
> When I have the dough,   I'll be buying on= e, for sure, myself for my Rhythm and Noise project,  aEther Engine.>
> Hope you are doing well, Lindsey.    We really mi= ssed you at the Looping Festival this year.  I hope you'll come
>= ; play Y2K11.
>
> hugs,   Rick
>
>=

--0-1384464135-1302631681=:12280-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 12 18:26:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48180183486; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:26:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=8BSDdW8HV1Q5UV4yhIn98Q/mdmBQ3MA8V/2ZMViKIww=; b=bUP+tP4p9z9rexP9fO5r8cvEAuNhK55/ydl9/Zy4vdNTJfzrU5kQ8z+e+1/u08+teO C0gHHIjSmDg+uF0R0DQtU9QYlbDCDp2XjmTIR0p1Mn8Nt9ARTAiyQ5OV8iyvglUJc/JB J+6RiYFy5L23hb292xTVkMPKAiEdL+7V/GxtI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=kkqPahlO0kz+1XnCItsYy6LSeXSQsujNUpf4JOfayKafRewHzEHKJwjUO8Thn3DdBp rnay/UYgCFx1ClUqyDS2fiOYXtAZKRcftoGrHPs4PL7zpLG8Oht3QJXxANZ3+dVdJO8s h2WTOhnZQJZH/DAHH/xw4xWkBIs56UMzo0yM4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 19:26:21 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Wanted: Roland GK-3 MIDI Pick-up From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032555998632370204a0bcd488 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108925 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:26:22 +0000 (UTC) --00032555998632370204a0bcd488 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 sent you a reply! On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 4:43 PM, William Walker wrote: > Maybe........ the only issue I see is shipping it from the states to you. > I'll figure out what I want for it. If I were to send it as a gift and not > state its real value it might work. If you are interested tell me what > ideally "cheap" means to you :-) > Bill > > --00032555998632370204a0bcd488 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable sent you a reply!

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at= 4:43 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:
Maybe........ the only issue I see is shipping it from the states to you. I= 'll figure out what I want for it. If I were to send it as a gift and n= ot state its real value it might work. =A0If you are =A0interested tell me = what ideally "cheap" means to you :-)
=A0Bill


--00032555998632370204a0bcd488-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 13 02:55:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1CDB418349E; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 02:55:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=FIIu0/dJRa2Hws3FnonfXGAfeQphAmbVZhI4az8mKnk=; b=dAjBHnP9OCdvMQCTzZF2k/PX5gfbEcCKABhAs3GwN8kJUu0gaza8FVRJQne4bGLHTE 5y/dOPEYY6KuLXnGCUuID8abAIc4qluP7EDYoa8TlBlpDrH9vwTuwkt8d2sJdfsG2amy /wZCUXjGjAfFABFZu54dVo4C+BdIgjBnqjrTI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=aucgk69U8TO7z0PdwwQv4XSmumGpGvoOBNJtgE/VJbvPXawTV+azlCwOnZvaCAzNaU hvot4aTI2COdPMaTIvsBdkxit1hF6K7TJM/y85GcmQtpXw5TGFQvvO8oSL6uhWyopEOD 0nzrMmuy3KWDxw2eatNak8CDkIZPnjqDOEpw4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 21:55:57 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: our war on nature,when will it stop... (O.T.) From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd32e5ea9476704a0c3f2df Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108926 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 02:55:58 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd32e5ea9476704a0c3f2df Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 funny, a few days ago i was talking to my 10 yr old son about dinosaurs, the past and future.... i will say that once man is gone, i'm sure the planet will right itself and be ok. i'm honestly not sure if we're doing anything good for the planet, and we've been here just a blip in time in the grand scheme of things... the other thing is i think we are at the 1/2 life our of sun, it has another 5 billion yrs i think and then will become a small red giant that will encompass everything past our planet's orbit, so in the scheme of the universe, we're toast in 5 billion yrs anyway. i doubt we'll be around for that as a species anyway....i think the dinosaurs had a good 250+million yr run, we've barely had a millions yrs & it's not looking good for us, i think.... oh well.... time for some happy thoughts...... s--- --000e0cd32e5ea9476704a0c3f2df Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
funny, a few days ago i was talking to my 10 yr old son about dinosaurs, the past and future....
i will say that once man is gone, i'm sure the planet will right itself and be ok. i'm honestly not sure if we're doing
anything good for the planet, and we've been here just a blip in time in the grand scheme of things...
the other thing is i think we are at the 1/2 life our of sun, it has another 5 billion yrs i think and then will become a small
red giant that will encompass everything past our planet's orbit, so in the scheme of the universe, we're toast in 5 billion yrs anyway.
i doubt we'll be around for that as a species anyway....i think the dinosaurs had a good 250+million yr run, we've barely had a millions yrs &
it's not looking good for us, i think....
oh well....
time for some happy thoughts......
s---
--000e0cd32e5ea9476704a0c3f2df-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 13 03:16:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A949718349F; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 03:16:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=iPuIS1LKbCrO4KS/bUMNyP7TNqSvDSiMT8A9mF4UtUo=; b=oKebMG3PUMPgCo4aTQOpcbBBtNmnpD+j0j8lVbhZy5mNy+2ErhhlzxcDZLFDgT2QkY tivjIlR+GdG3l9STw/0UZqlX8LWiMWLHEAebt7VtFX73hCtSbJJfukMswV9kOFLdEy9h nTyo/U2hExw8WgGPsHlNndYBPXvxzpfhH/KKA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nbDTAe9brgifQgQTb5YiQKQWno3NSq7wn0XZ5J/x7zmRWWlR+Ls8Sf22DAe3p4b88K Lbeqo3ZGqMetwDy+IaeDm19t9WKqB5tsAEjH3StL+r2thfgSsGHupTK6rS9/vLtQPgPs FaBDGxZnV9jDwV/nVHo0Psu2+J6XfNT0nr53g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 23:16:08 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: our war on nature,when will it stop... (O.T.) From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a697de172604a0c43abf Resent-Message-ID: <5KCI_D.A.WMD.5VRpNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108927 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 03:16:09 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a697de172604a0c43abf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Scott man that's dark, wild and intense but also estetically and philosophically wonderful. So much in our universe, world, unexplained unknown, something out there has us by the tail and the final card and hopefully likes us. Jim On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Scott Hansen wrote= : > funny, a few days ago i was talking to my 10 yr old son about dinosaurs, > the past and future.... > i will say that once man is gone, i'm sure the planet will right itself a= nd > be ok. i'm honestly not sure if we're doing > anything good for the planet, and we've been here just a blip in time in > the grand scheme of things... > the other thing is i think we are at the 1/2 life our of sun, it has > another 5 billion yrs i think and then will become a small > red giant that will encompass everything past our planet's orbit, so in t= he > scheme of the universe, we're toast in 5 billion yrs anyway. > i doubt we'll be around for that as a species anyway....i think the > dinosaurs had a good 250+million yr run, we've barely had a millions yrs = & > it's not looking good for us, i think.... > oh well.... > time for some happy thoughts...... > s--- > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf3054a697de172604a0c43abf Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Scott man that's dark, wild and intense but also estetically and philos= ophically wonderful. =A0So much in our universe, world, unexplained unknown= , something out there has us by the tail and the final card and hopefully l= ikes us.

Jim

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 a= t 10:55 PM, Scott Hansen <evanpeewee@gmail.com> wrote:
funny, a few days ago i was talking to my 10 yr old son about dinosaur= s, the past and future....
i will say that once man is gone, i'm sure the planet will right i= tself and be ok. i'm honestly not sure if we're doing
anything good for the planet, and we've been here just a blip in t= ime in the grand scheme of things...
the other thing is i think we are at the 1/2 life our of sun, it has a= nother 5 billion yrs i think and then will become a small
red giant that will encompass everything past our planet's orbit, = so in the scheme of the universe, we're toast in 5 billion yrs anyway.<= /div>
i doubt we'll be around for that as a species anyway....i think th= e dinosaurs had a good 250+million yr run, we've barely had a millions = yrs &
it's not looking good for us, i think....
oh well....
time for some happy thoughts......
s---



--
From Brooklyn To Gli= ndran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6r= n.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.= =A0 j= imgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

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--20cf3054a697de172604a0c43abf-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 13 03:28:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 774F3183486; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 03:28:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=iktIfonWUPhw9t+0py1tHo7YcgLGT9lwrvb1bM/tqmM=; b=suf3xpHW/Y9p/Ds2G7ZWRwN5DNLfI1AwUWtFTK0t0RGPfGvej1zhmk8vTfIgLX/kYD kpzOTQiuYJMozdhAng2CI1+7R59XwbpSNWOfpGe2wOAnUpU+Ond3T7+g1n2DJSVyly4x cz91jj1fmFmQWRbiJaUutigknFPRVxCnwR9bc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=s53M3/6F1JGfFhdCUl0jd2BJlIiS3Tet7/47UBAPXKatXhCFvk6u29gEbyYHRLsO63 HoNn3G3zsqY4/6XHMeBEeOyk22hSOficjQncxmY3cgICffUiD3vLkCQt9LEumNpx+31D oUzG3d99EZZzscioEHvCce/mWwQ2tvn2+kAW8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 22:28:09 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: pigtronix echolution.... From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd15804de02b704a0c46516 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108928 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 03:28:13 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd15804de02b704a0c46516 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 rainer,et al....yes the discussion about the pds8000, i've never had one, just heard the results and watched some vids (the bill frisell demo of it is AMAZING!) i wish digitech would re-release that. i don't think the super jamman new version is anything close. if you watch what bill frisell does to demo it, it's a very unique pedal-w/ the varispeed options and he was able to do w/ it. the thing i think made it unique was it seems like an instrument in itself that you can manipulate. to me most new loopers seem so set on giving you hrs & hrs of static recording time, which just bores me. why i really ended up not liking the boss rc20-i like to play and manipulate... and that's why i love the echolution too--the ability to manipulate the time w/ varispeed (similar to what david torn demo'd w/ his lexicon pcm 42 back in his painting w/ guitar vid from early 90s)--i'm not sure if the echolution is a pcm42 or a pds8000 killer/replacement-more of an option that gets close to some things those units would do. i'll try to answer some of your ?s....if i can.... 1. price: yes, it's a $400+ delay pedal-that puts it out of the range for many. i got mine for a bit less, but it's still the most expensive pedal i've ever bought (and i 'm cheap!) but i do still love it!!! but yes, the timebender is cheaper than it (but for me it's WAY BETTER than the timebender). price wise it's close to the eventide timefactor-which i considered (used of course) also.... 2 "maximum delay time in tap tempo mode is 20 seconds". --i'll have to go through the manual closer-i haven't tried the non modulated stuff much yet, and haven't played w/ the tap tempo function to get 20 sec....i'm loving the 12 sec and messing w/ it TOO MUCH. 3. delay time again: i've certainly used lots of short delays for modulation of time: the boss dd7, digitech dl8, guyatone md3 and ibanez de7 -all work really well for this, it's just the delay time is shorter usually 2-3 some seconds---i certainly for a long time would use short delays and dump the manipulation stuff to some sampler....heck i still have that option-i still have a boss sp303 in my setup..... 4. yes, no midi. that doesn't bother me. i still don't know what that is honestly. i'm dumb and lazy! 5. looping: the description of the loop switch has this statement in the manual: "Although the Echolution can be used as a stand-alone loop machine, you will get better results by this function in combination with a dedicated looping device." - Say what? OK-THIS FUNCTION-I LOVE THE LOOP SWITCH, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK THEY ARE SAYING: I THINK THEY ARE ADMITTING THAT THIS IS NOT MEANT TO BE ANY TYPE OF UBER LOOPER THAT EVERYONE WANTS. YOU WANT MY HONEST OPINION- I THINK THIS THING IS A HYBRID OF ANALOG CONTROL W/ SOME DIGITAL STUFF THAT BASICALLY SEEMS TO MODEL AN ECHOPLEX (THE OLD ONES THAT USE TAPE)-THE DELAYS CERTAINLY HAVE THAT ECHO FLAVOR. THERE IS EVEN A HIGH END ROLLOFF, THERE IS A DRIVE CONTROL (REMEMBER NUMEROUS PEOPLE WHO USED OLD ECHOPLEXS TO GIVE A GAIN PUSH? EVH WAS ONE!!! & THEN THERE IS THE TAP OPTIONS-WHICH IS LIKE PUTTING IN A RECORD HEAD TO GIVE THE RHYTHMIC STUFF (JUST MORE FLEXABLE ON THIS) AND HONESTLY W/ THE USE OF THE LOOPING ASPECT IN THE MODULATED 12SEC RANGE-TO ME IT SOUNDS LIKE A BETTER VERSION OF MY TASCAM 4 TRACK THAT I USED AS A MAKESHIFT LOOPER-IT BASICALLY CREATES SORT OF EASY TAPE LOOPS-THAT'S THE SOUND I'M HEARING-IT'S NOT PRISTINE REPEATS LIKE CLASSIC DIGITAL DELAYS. AND I HONESTLY LOVE THIS. AGAIN, I NEED TO MESS W/ THE NON-MODULATED DELAYS TO SEE HOW THEY WORK W/ THE TAP TEMPO. BUT THIS IS HOW I SEE THIS THING, IT'S BIG FOR A PEDAL, BUT NOT AS BIG AS THE OLD ORIGINAL ECHOPLEXS, AND OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NO TAPE TO WEAR OUT. (PARTS OF THIS ALSO REMINDS ME OF THE STRYMON TAPE DELAY PEDAL...NOT AS EXACT, BUT SIMILAR) 6. reverse: --THE REVERSE IS A DECENT FUNCTION-IT DOES DO LONGER REVERSES BUT INTERACTS W/ THE BLEND KNOB. I HAVEN'T MESSED W/ IT AS MUCH. I THINK IT WILL GIVE YOU LONG REVERSE DELAYS, BUT NEED TO MESS W/ IT MORE. IT'S BETTER THEN MY DIGITECH DL8 IN REVERSE, I STILL DO THINK THAT THE TC ELECTRONIC FLASHBACK HAD A GREAT REVERSE MODE.... I'M NOT SURE IF I'VE DONE A GREAT JOB OF DESCRIBING THIS PEDAL. I'D SAY WATCH SOME OF THE YOUTUBE VIDS, WHICH IS WHAT I DID. THERE WAS ONE OF SOMEONE USING THIS W/ AN OLD ROLAND DR-55 DRUM MACHINE. MAN I THOUGHT THAT WAS COOL.... I ALSO THOUGHT THE TIMEFACTOR WAS A COOL PEDAL TOO. IN THE END I JUST HAD TO MAKE A DECISION, B/C I HAD THE $$$, AND I WENT W/ THIS. IT WORKS FOR ME. IF YOU ABSOLUTELY NEED MANY MINUTES OR HRS OF LOOPING TIME TO DO THE JOB, THEN THIS IS PROBABLY NOT FOR YOU.... S--- --000e0cd15804de02b704a0c46516 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
rainer,et al....yes the discussion about the pds8000, i've never h= ad one, just heard the results and watched some vids (the bill frisell demo= of it is AMAZING!)
i wish digitech would re-release that. i don't think the super jam= man new version is anything close.
if you watch what bill frisell does to demo it, it's a very unique= pedal-w/ the varispeed options and he was able to do w/ it.
the thing i think made it unique was it seems like an instrument in it= self that you can manipulate. to me most new loopers seem so set on giving = you hrs & hrs of static
recording time, which just bores me. why i really ended up not liking = the boss rc20-i like to play and manipulate...
=A0
and that's why i love the echolution too--the ability to manipulat= e the time w/ varispeed (similar to what david torn demo'd w/ his lexic= on pcm 42 back in his
painting w/ guitar vid from early 90s)--i'm not sure if the echolu= tion is a pcm42 or a pds8000 killer/replacement-more of an option that gets= close to some things
those units would do.
=A0
i'll try to answer some of your ?s....if i can....
=A0
1. price: yes, it's a $400+ delay pedal-that puts it out of the ra= nge for many. i got mine for a bit less, but it's still the most expens= ive pedal i've ever bought (and i 'm cheap!)
but i do still love it!!! but yes, the timebender is cheaper than it (= but for me it's WAY BETTER than the timebender). price wise it's cl= ose to the eventide timefactor-which i considered (used of course) also....=
=A0
=A0
2=A0"maximum delay time in tap tempo mode is 20 seconds". --= i'll have to go through the manual closer-i haven't tried the non m= odulated stuff much yet, and haven't played w/ the tap tempo function t= o get 20 sec....i'm loving the 12 sec and messing w/ it TOO MUCH.
=A0

3. delay time again: i've certainly used lots of short delays = for modulation of time: the boss dd7, digitech dl8, guyatone md3 and ibanez= de7 -all work really well for this,
it's just the delay time is shorter usually 2-3 some seconds---i c= ertainly for a long time would use short delays and dump the manipulation s= tuff to some sampler....heck i still
have that option-i still have a boss sp303 in my setup.....
=A0
4. yes, no midi. that doesn't bother me. i still don't know wh= at that is honestly. i'm dumb and lazy!
=A0

5. looping: the description of the loop switch has this statement = in the
manual: "Although the Echolution can be used as a stand-alo= ne loop
machine, you will get better results by this function in combin= ation
with a dedicated looping device." - Say what?=A0 OK-THIS FUNCTION-I LO= VE THE LOOP SWITCH, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK THEY ARE SAYING:
I THINK THEY ARE ADMITTING THAT THIS IS NOT MEANT TO BE ANY TYPE OF UB= ER LOOPER THAT EVERYONE WANTS. YOU WANT MY HONEST OPINION-
I THINK THIS THING IS A HYBRID OF ANALOG CONTROL W/ SOME DIGITAL STUFF= THAT BASICALLY SEEMS TO MODEL AN ECHOPLEX (THE OLD ONES THAT
USE TAPE)-THE DELAYS CERTAINLY HAVE THAT ECHO FLAVOR. THERE IS EVEN A = HIGH END ROLLOFF, THERE IS A DRIVE CONTROL (REMEMBER NUMEROUS PEOPLE WHO US= ED OLD ECHOPLEXS TO GIVE A GAIN PUSH? EVH WAS ONE!!!=A0 & THEN THERE IS= THE TAP OPTIONS-WHICH IS LIKE PUTTING IN A RECORD HEAD TO GIVE THE RHYTHMI= C STUFF (JUST MORE FLEXABLE ON THIS) AND HONESTLY W/ THE USE OF THE LOOPING= ASPECT IN THE MODULATED
12SEC =A0RANGE-TO ME IT SOUNDS LIKE A BETTER VERSION OF MY TASCAM 4 TR= ACK THAT I USED AS A MAKESHIFT LOOPER-IT BASICALLY CREATES SORT OF
EASY TAPE LOOPS-THAT'S THE SOUND I'M HEARING-IT'S NOT PRIS= TINE REPEATS LIKE CLASSIC DIGITAL DELAYS. AND I HONESTLY LOVE THIS.
=A0
AGAIN, I NEED TO MESS W/ THE NON-MODULATED DELAYS TO SEE HOW THEY WORK= W/ THE TAP TEMPO. BUT THIS IS HOW I SEE THIS THING, IT'S BIG FOR A PED= AL, BUT NOT AS BIG AS THE OLD ORIGINAL ECHOPLEXS, AND OBVIOUSLY THERE'S= NO TAPE TO WEAR OUT. (PARTS OF THIS ALSO REMINDS ME OF THE STRYMON TAPE DE= LAY PEDAL...NOT AS EXACT, BUT SIMILAR)

6. reverse: --THE REVERSE IS A DECENT FUNCTION-IT DOES DO LONGER REVERS= ES BUT INTERACTS W/ THE BLEND KNOB. I HAVEN'T MESSED W/ IT AS MUCH. I T= HINK IT WILL GIVE YOU LONG REVERSE DELAYS, BUT NEED TO MESS W/ IT MORE. IT&= #39;S BETTER THEN MY DIGITECH DL8 IN REVERSE,
I STILL DO THINK THAT THE TC ELECTRONIC FLASHBACK HAD A GREAT REVERSE = MODE....

I'M NOT SURE IF I'VE DONE A GREAT JOB OF DESCRIBING THIS P= EDAL. I'D SAY WATCH SOME OF THE YOUTUBE VIDS, WHICH IS WHAT I DID. THER= E WAS ONE OF SOMEONE USING THIS W/ AN OLD ROLAND DR-55 DRUM MACHINE. MAN I = THOUGHT THAT WAS COOL....
I ALSO THOUGHT THE TIMEFACTOR WAS A COOL PEDAL TOO. IN THE END I JUST = HAD TO MAKE A DECISION, B/C I HAD THE $$$, AND I WENT=A0 W/ THIS.
IT WORKS FOR ME.
IF YOU ABSOLUTELY NEED MANY MINUTES OR HRS OF LOOPING TIME TO DO THE J= OB, THEN THIS IS PROBABLY NOT FOR YOU....
S---
--000e0cd15804de02b704a0c46516-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 13 05:19:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F0CC18349F; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 05:19:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1302671982; bh=8zdHIMSi08u2zXutUvAymGGS3Oiq29QqqZO6LgYwfvw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jd83kaIwORAgeh4Rff2f000vpz/Y2anWpQor4z34wc/lOe87afLwlaSou9dBFTx82COcSxPcAMYKn0GWZiB5q3S8auTyDIVBO4BsRBWlX0HR5Hxiv8xxUHWmVMxZeiehO/VTDdcTExyZD+tWt71V+ZUMeJ30Dnlkq1e5GtWPNwo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Ntf8ocH8Buc2jtqmC6gjS4HzAk/USdIbQW/YaKXKEcQVMyGAobF5owXWlNdijDLpfmPJmsZ9LMp1Cd75w0kM61kvtAgG0WcAf/LDJ7IWmjPFQrzAMN2vIzhsovkOiuIdKQCk3aT8kcii10JyLUnVk7kqrnIMX/TuQdvdFtyBmJ8=; Message-ID: <123021.83983.qm@web120704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: H7YnHSgVM1k7SP3PEA4HorFOY_7ibNqn3kdEFwEJ7sUU5wJ 5GfT9U0uNruFJ0pC1XoaYFXkwZPAaZL5LqDzqWRNNlIppaa_k1hcR0qNzNmi krqjPAK_.wi5MnOUu8KFFeXV2dkUuyGs06Ilw.dSpYez5bZ.n5gDP7Xdwh5y 9a7VsegzwcmLmX_1Fx8qhrSJfOLMaJIM6FYTkMH2ksGzpWR.wN.PqZWST9T1 hjQxLWxXRNi.66YCDJ_1KdQGQ2Y2gu1maskKKz6RNEsaIGNLqp3QiouqHv6Q nvx8A1A1fTisQbwgBMCxrpcZ1tvx9I0nD0D919igD5by6SJKuwflvHmKB6ZG chWm1fQLgNHPuV7Rf9XQ5BXftYSmwDCfVy6gMYsuTC2gW3zqW_wyp1A-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 References: Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 22:19:41 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: our war on nature,when will it stop... (O.T.) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2125122858-1302671981=:83983" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108929 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 05:19:43 +0000 (UTC) --0-2125122858-1302671981=:83983 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable faith and consciousness=0A=0AAntony Hequet=0A=0A=0A=0A_____________________= ___________=0AFrom: Jim Goodin =0ATo: Loopers-Del= ight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Wed, April 13, 2011 5:16:08 AM=0ASubject: = Re: our war on nature,when will it stop... (O.T.)=0A=0AScott man that's dar= k, wild and intense but also estetically and philosophically =0Awonderful. = So much in our universe, world, unexplained unknown, something out =0Ather= e has us by the tail and the final card and hopefully likes us.=0A=0AJim=0A= =0A=0AOn Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Scott Hansen = wrote:=0A=0Afunny, a few days ago i was talking to my 10 yr old son about = dinosaurs, the =0Apast and future....=0A>i will say that once man is gone, = i'm sure the planet will right itself and be =0A>ok. i'm honestly not sure = if we're doing=0A>anything good for the planet, and we've been here just a = blip in time in the =0A>grand scheme of things...=0A>the other thing is i t= hink we are at the 1/2 life our of sun, it has another 5 =0A>billion yrs i = think and then will become a small=0A>red giant that will encompass everyth= ing past our planet's orbit, so in the =0A>scheme of the universe, we're to= ast in 5 billion yrs anyway.=0A>i doubt we'll be around for that as a speci= es anyway....i think the dinosaurs =0A>had a good 250+million yr run, we've= barely had a millions yrs &=0A>it's not looking good for us, i think....= =0A>oh well....=0A>time for some happy thoughts......=0A>s---=0A=0A=0A-- = =0AFrom Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin= & Peter =0ATh=F6rn. Proceeds=0Afrom the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF= International. =0Ajimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.=0A=0Awoodandwiremusic= .wordpress.com=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-2125122858-1302671981=:83983 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
faith and consciousness

Antony Hequet

From: Jim Goo= din <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Wed, April 13, 2011 5:16:08 AM
<= span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject: Re: our war on nature= ,when will it stop... (O.T.)

=0AScott man that's dark, wild a= nd intense but also estetically and philosophically wonderful.  So muc= h in our universe, world, unexplained unknown, something out there has us b= y the tail and the final card and hopefully likes us.
=0A
Jim

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Sc= ott Hansen <ev= anpeewee@gmail.com> wrote:
=0A
funny, a few days ago i was talking to my 10 yr old son about dino= saurs, the past and future....
=0A
i will say that once man is gon= e, i'm sure the planet will right itself and be ok. i'm honestly not sure i= f we're doing
=0A
anything good for the planet, and we've been her= e just a blip in time in the grand scheme of things...
=0A
the oth= er thing is i think we are at the 1/2 life our of sun, it has another 5 bil= lion yrs i think and then will become a small
=0A
red giant that w= ill encompass everything past our planet's orbit, so in the scheme of the u= niverse, we're toast in 5 billion yrs anyway.
=0A
i doubt we'll be= around for that as a species anyway....i think the dinosaurs had a good 25= 0+million yr run, we've barely had a millions yrs &
=0A
it's n= ot looking good for us, i think....
=0A
oh well....
=0A
t= ime for some happy thoughts......
=0A
s---
=0A



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From Brooklyn To Glindran, a ne= w World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.  Procee= ds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.  jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.
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woodandwir= emusic.wordpress.com
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=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-2125122858-1302671981=:83983-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 13 07:55:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 856F618349F; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 07:55:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=c49KnuRumj/9B+wIybD0gOP/rI4g7QxboYmnZ2CczbQ=; b=uBSBiryvo/YSOv003WHMfv6enLfhWevGeG2Qbntj6Mgg10GroSO6UylC83AnaDDwWl bdNFuJC7BMHpi//q/uy12ZkYNhl30BGJotzvuCWF/IdV7Ot69LB7sg7SZaHp38NQ2HI7 7koPdwubdLAeipK904hg8MruLQSlF9LMCMoHg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xjvTiLZ4IzULntdFj8WgJCz9Lfbv9LNDqWL7aDyjoENlqTeCa2HqElZoPEbAcaMTZT ZpxTSiSebHufzkXT/0NqgcurbyQoTGIA84NEA2zB3c3qbc2qM8JrDSxbtgj8UiY5NUW/ YRyNRJdvxJpCvAbswNLESx77Hf4d8oLj57TnU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <402965.80621.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 09:55:01 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: our war on nature,when will it stop... (O.T.) From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <5G_3SC.A.tJB.XbVpNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108930 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 07:55:03 +0000 (UTC) cheers friends,sorry for spilling this to the list,i ve been trying not to over react and remain optimistic with the current situation but sometimes is hard... but as you can see the japanese society isnt staying cool anymore either... I love the pacific,after being almost every day on cortison and morphin shots to be able to breathe as a kid, moving to the pacific coast is what save me from almost dying of asma attacks. I also learned to surf and went almost every day so i have a special relationship with th ocean.I also love the sun and the sand, eating good seafood,fresh vegetables and good natural honey and to think that this is all being thretened now,and that we might have to soon resort to an artificial alternative perhaps,makes me really sad. If you look at all of the disasters that have happened withthin the last few years,oil spills,ozone deterioration,air pollution,radiation,nuclear waste etc. and mostly because of careless greed it makes me wonder how longer this can really go on.Whats even more pathetic is the manipulation of information to calm us down and keep the profit coming in. And thats precisely the problem,we have always gone on, as if the earth was a bucket with an bottomless pit. I wonder how it still manages at all... Luis On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Jim Goodin wrot= e: > Louis I'm with you as well. =A0It's just tough nut, nuclear energy. =A0It= has > brought us many pluses but as they say at what cost and no one knows. =A0= There > have been so many protests of concern over the years and in response to > Japan I penned a set of rare lyrics in our ImprovFriday benefit for Japan= , > that was inspired by a flash of Karen Silkwood in my mind. =A0It's horrib= ly > tragic what has occurred in Japan and though the world has returned to > 'moving on' and it will get resolved, it was a major wake-up and reminder= of > the risk of nuclear energy. =A0Your sadness/sobriety/entropy does not go > unnoticed. > Jim > > On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 7:11 AM, wrote: >> >> we all have to make some real changes! >> Antony >> ________________________________ >> From: Gareth Whittock >> To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >> Sent: Tue, April 12, 2011 9:39:14 AM >> Subject: RE: our war on nature,when will it stop... (O.T.) >> >> Hi Louie, >> I'm with you all the way mate but I see ontherwise enlightened people >> thoughtlessly wasting energy all the time. It's sad. >> >> Peace >> >> g >> >> Gareth@Sentientfx -=A0 Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ >> >> >> >> > Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 08:48:23 +0200 >> > Subject: our war on nature,when will it stop... (O.T.) >> > From: louie.angulo@googlemail.com >> > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >> > >> > sorry to bring this up but i think is important information >> > >> > http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=3Dva&aid=3D24268 >> > >> > http://www.warandpeace.ru/en/exclusive/view/52992/ >> > >> > >> > http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/04/12/japan.nuclear.reactors= /index.html?hpt=3DT1 >> > >> > hearing about the devastating state of japan this morning already at >> > alarm level 7 and reading this links,i felt like going into a corner >> > and crying really >> > more so when i look at my kids and what they might have to perhaps >> > confront,it seems like time is runing out faster than i thought... >> > its also kind of ackward to see these countries which are considered " >> > first world" turning the world upside down >> > then again we just go about it like it will get resolved by itself by >> > dumping nuclear waste onto the ocean and cure our depression by >> > further consuming, >> > oh yes is so bad, but dont raise our energy bill and gas prices >> > sorry again but this is just too depressing and im angry,will we ever >> > wake up... >> > Luis >> > >> > www.luis-angulo.com >> > >> > > > > -- > From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & > Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. > jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. > > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 13 08:04:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28A5B18349F; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 08:04:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KyQka08mAfCHthu+r7hXQRZGr8W+ay2xCMOV1Bux+R0=; b=cCRJnd65LJ3L3x5XSYcM9EvL6wUa8OBFSFuQnGy4dVQG9c1Wq1M+8z+HlGnu1mejG7 n/AxGtj1lx/LRbZaehrUadCwPMxjgcId65KmzqwAwp1Dm9YynHAakkkHSwErhzuBeDyN sn+yWJG3jVfvSZK8PPU2ILbgK4pHgexFLmMk8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qerG5qKy7+dKNRUdEjqo3rAyPhkcrMDfytly0g2KscVkko8Bgogfh7Ea6ZBcpTE1hM br2bWa7dcht2OopkiV2vI1+28UFW3zWCE8C+B1QRv4Eb7bG7o0dAS7mzCNsKt6zYjjT2 r1GVUOTPEsN8r5Sm3JqiYxWNtRfxCTNcyg+14= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:04:02 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: well ableton live is pretty cool, isn't it! From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <8HkL9D.A.AcB.zjVpNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108931 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 08:04:03 +0000 (UTC) Yes i second that Ableton has been the answer for me! I tried mainstage,very frustrating,pretty to look at for staying at home though;-) with ableton ive even managed to use guitar rig and some external delays with no problems,but its own plugins are wonderful. Also itst little looper is very stable with clock. the only issue im still dealing with is how the drum loops sync and behave to the looper,sometimes it starts to fast and sometimes to slow,with the EDP or Mobius defining the 8th cycle is way more predictable when you send a start comand,how do you set that in Ableton? on abletons looper i have it set to global sync. cheers Luis On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Glad you're on a rewarding track now with your big rig change project! > > Yep, I agree. Live is cool due to the MIDI clips option to control > loopers. I used mainly Ableton before Mainstage came around, but since > then I use Mainstage 1 because it has better MIDI clock sync > (following my adventurous tempo changes in the Mobius looper) and also > because I am able to pick a sparse palette of plugins that give me > even lower CPU use than Ableton and Bidule. As for Mainstage 2 I've > actually never migrated there yet, not stable with the multi plugin > parmeter morphing I like to do. > > With every combination of host application and palette of plugins > there are pros and cons and for the plugins I like to use Mainstage 1 > has proven the best sounding host solution. Actually, many of the > Mobius scripts I still use today started as Ableton Live MIDI clips to > control an Electrixpro Repeater ten years ago ;-)) =A0Not much new here > on the tech side I guess, but to me that means good soil for musical > progression. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > > > On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Simeon Harris > wrote: >> hello, my name is simeon and i'm a mobius user.... >> tried hosting in mainstage 2...ugh...terrible cpu usage...crippled my wh= ole >> machine >> tried bidule...wonderful bit of software, but had some issues with cpu a= nd >> memory and boy, it's just so ugly >> now i'm using ableton - stable, pretty to look at and good with cpu! >> downside - rubbish with incoming clock. had to ditch nearly all the thir= d >> party plugins i was using and make new effects using ableton's own ones. >> upside - clips! wow! terrific - i can send midi controller data to filte= rs >> and loop it in sync, or send midi commands to mobius (shuffle track two >> every 4 bars while overdubbing on track three, anybody?!). oh and fire o= ff a >> drum loop or two... :) >> hoorah! >> now to finish recording my album and stop messing about with all this >> software...! >> s > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 13 10:03:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0809818349F; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:03:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=q7U30OW4sO+ykesqu3fjNySA5Pek7oCSOx/FoyqHkqo=; b=mFFmUyeX9WhEXbUQuxOnZRukByzJEIN/Bi6iKFg5CddHvmJP1N0RjSc1AspMjg0Bir YDmqDrrtRKM9NS+acxVFMYGy/I48WFGiNmBjbxQFQmzICAyLf4X1I8OaDALsKRvtfeFF 1MDjNv1BtA2k0WaLNuntKgV4SD2JOnABXAanM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=q4kHaybEjtIONOkqUfg6xuUgClXn/pKxb9HlToAAdwjs9nOjyUdZuPjZZmhh18f4/g RcMH6Tu+wGn9Ft5FAHMdqhXhAZgAtUSJBMP0N5ZsERvaWQJtAzFKYQE29TmeYNb8iZIg xBsAGyPY6pL3C22H1zR7RcHLKKF3K/4/V0wJE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 12:03:38 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: well ableton live is pretty cool, isn't it! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108932 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:03:39 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > the only issue im still dealing with is how the drum loops sync and > behave to the looper,sometimes it starts to fast and sometimes to > slow I don't know how you play back those drum loops, but have you tried setting them up as audio clips in Live? Then then you can pre define launch and playback preferences for each clip. Tip: synced legato clips is a cool thing you can do in Live (utilizing the random engine in the clip preferences) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 13 10:33:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EADA718349F; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:32:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1302690777; bh=BVIejUkh+U378YbDolbVstIf25hejoAlYxrL2RoC+f4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=xk/yIj9OrSQ0gUuyJhS2a5KBT/aiqVsD44KrAx4YaPpbj7h+5lwYtQpE+p+sXaT11WFmIppDfC8vsQwTrPwgkw9rT4ghsPdDChXQDy0mXfebaWQfAvaWpM1JjmYOfeqTuwhHOZCJmdVc3kQajVktJTitRZ2luA2sHywJRCbqExI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=tO2iNcJ66zuNpxmDP96+pX/1ikY2jKAt6gg67t/QbafksqGjHlHzxt4TiDz16MDbASB3901o2OWLDV+0V+9qEO41IPn2Ws84ihhvSOlsJjPtsdatsNMeu0NtumCzjtYeiE6BJWhDmk7nKUtpn2NrKgvsqetghiWz1e8ITZ/7m38=; Message-ID: <521172.77781.qm@web24611.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: qnsKJXYVM1lTwPVR1EC82AawgY0WBN49K67iVgP28rtfiEp N1KfeTxNP3m0kueapv.Akw7YQ..6Qqa6uTNHDzRQ02x8Vu_8hO2Aje4O1eWd guQ4A1jhD57oAgbpBt4YF_cl3DUOhnGDUi1Mty5bg41uqfqHcmL77mLpARIZ 15TXi.2.qNdqw53MWIvIA4AAHrHxC.RyNkE97hviaZ7r_5mgXHmIifcKwrBR rBOZq_Y6wpCGXgK51bQ1f2Cj5gYB7e4.thK9sLB__iqHE8iNH9XYHs4m2qQY UpzKx6MgdJSq_u388nLj7TT9EpDi7dtlBYscS6Tw_UQ0BAQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/12.0.2 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 11:32:57 +0100 (BST) From: Stephen Scott Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: Shameless self promotion (some looping though) To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108933 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:32:59 +0000 (UTC) Hate to blow my own melodica, but I've just put my fourth album up on bandc= amp for free download. =0A=0Ahttp://stephenscott.bandcamp.com/=0A=0AStephe= n From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 13 10:46:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0086018349D; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:46:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gaNP7yyU54f3qRjGpU1AEELEotAuETQgiQHn2egJKCg=; b=FrTTLCpyAEmlKD/G3QdDaZVtoWWl8FpL1NpWrCwATuK38LUtrhMdQcZ8sIHAxuZToo Gy0d5kQHI5n0PPkWcqny271x8CgV/Y16mMR1lpe/3cJAn55vqIz8zLbcucVvdEn8727f hrOHt/7nQ05ta3M+XsHIIglK+N0bpdfpkB+9g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=BEdHxYNU9IZeAfVY7+WNCpF8ZGqCAsNj4o7q7Sq+aAahdCmt7BK8IIDEt5rbj9ci0f 4u3GZJyJuP5fLNlwsQNJC6Cem086QOqV57LeOl07gqn3sIntB0XexHgY+VxZFJ2XalvN uUJHvsolKVMOWXq4b8VyYYnlz0BewqQtTImXk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <521172.77781.qm@web24611.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <521172.77781.qm@web24611.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 12:46:09 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Shameless self promotion (some looping though) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <11uaeB.A.lVF.y7XpNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108934 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:46:10 +0000 (UTC) Enjoying the stream. Nice mixture, goes beyond eclectic. Loving "Tiger Mosquito and Fruit Flies". Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Stephen Scott wrote: > Hate to blow my own melodica, but I've just put my fourth album up on bandcamp for free download. > > http://stephenscott.bandcamp.com/ > > Stephen > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 13 10:55:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC5DF18349F; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:55:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 928357.25555.bm@omp1017.mail.ird.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer; b=6rf/kko39v3LiesfJhixwOZpPbF92ka5P3bl8jjAMYiVt0QDpgcOUOK0xyn2AkEtCPRJiqml8ZoIBvX76TVRmp/C+w9GRJy9kYK1N1ylWAufSIPpOQyzW4yciGmAINnk8yBdZ0gMthW+fQrjabSdid7Lhoyc9JCs8uuVu9u6oRY= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1302692118; bh=/cHDoPfiNjjFHqZl/uDJn2QwLYBuo1a5II37LnCDLOM=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer; b=VGnKt2mDO6e0caPOY7XLDwBqiRgcZrYQ5dNzBzA0yoSAfAUweyULsK5pdWFAVMJZWtKr/R2BzeQsaqradgs8SwtUzptW/wP+cZdyy5JzoxD6M3py28BJ3DbQERKtScNEtGiKxmrW/qR/4/0oy92YBD/ukaCvxXJWZ+7elk1SCKg= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: 89rmzRMVM1mjlQlUK55iVzDKTFMJp8dkcPHFgOE_0WtBw.R uf0tFiecwmaU8KanuX4qHsH5509WLuawslZD5vWekAtXpFyCJrSw4BJFKgD9 KlfWOeEmFtq7bROSS4YWRsnbkbfsJSufeOxtBOX46Ivv8BDI0oYe2J1hKK0q BOsGlcXYYU6h5V.3EKMHS2ciKikhIK9o7.5RqRwgLu7EImAwKE0dD2hCyA3p fNFLFR2lzLNXXFurQUxnqn6TUseOya6f9gmIWdUtGqTZp_uY9vGbiO33xR.U lPj.irYTEBdPEEFQ0ve5xB60nEF_KKsD0gRx6o3kgNVkUCFkIUtmMKNkCxwc - X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: OT: Shameless self promotion (some looping though) From: Matthew Stevens In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 11:55:17 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7A4C07A3-2928-4FEB-AE40-5597937B4361@btinternet.com> References: <521172.77781.qm@web24611.mail.ird.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108935 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:55:20 +0000 (UTC) I shall share it through my channels - thanks for the inspiration, love = your work man. On 13 Apr 2011, at 11:46, Per Boysen wrote: > Enjoying the stream. Nice mixture, goes beyond eclectic. Loving "Tiger > Mosquito and Fruit Flies". >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Stephen Scott > wrote: >> Hate to blow my own melodica, but I've just put my fourth album up on = bandcamp for free download. >>=20 >> http://stephenscott.bandcamp.com/ >>=20 >> Stephen >>=20 >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 13 14:32:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E97E218349E; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:32:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1302705119; bh=vQfUgTVIzsDFvBBTZ35zR7DTBYVX9J/IDypkB4rLQaA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HvtLu0rVf7MHdu66vJXbgELkonZu+hO6POf31+y9bxYBWzuCIgyZdOjgvLdzHM3zlI0lLJSW+Rjd0wmPRk0YPQt9nFDTXCdGekUZ0VYvgrkun8UsRqx3m9K166PErjP+CQKHsDvN+Bk/x+rpau4yrag4VmwBqvKMAE0c2L9Mqcg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=09tG0ICs+KVdmPP3lgt0e7aIagGl+LC4ZpFI8Ub04DKx2WoyAJMOdcwAPueL7YQVU77d+GYZKiTnvSp1m7Uiuiv0g9sp4xpISbCSM4O6jRFNSPVJiFvN4teKfqH2en5GvdOyJ6VFl0gyEA1Eyjt44W9nWYwj/S8wSo7PyyA0+AY=; Message-ID: <863402.56677.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 8O4mjuwVM1nhxpfuvb4zmfnjDbUbj1XEhVjoxqyxTEs42r6 8jn4U7dO3ZTXscKnPw91YRMsAVRnGfRPCJt.WJQGr6W.v6lxirN6YpVHNI_S Eq8q1gCqSYRo8VAReu0IvJbj_ccfyF7RGG1oVFnWTWuUD9njf.1J83Y5tpF3 HkFe4ux_9uSvbsl2WRFc2e2rQdvY4QoVKT0odag5QBXcUum3G.At.yfKQF6Z e0hZHHgZbjf5rm1XWrhCjsUBXqdAsgLc8xPLjj0bplWoE9CmxLT.jQxt4zXB oHMQyE1ultCfcyukxn36YCzf8p0rL59E3IreC8tbEvDKR50itNcl.IB0OlX. O.Gb4twdXHqYiV2jliUQX2fTqYoIqfRbeMTvTnrRlhQqHSzsQhfwSXOU3IA1 0VSnaageO2X0zUOg- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/12.0.2 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 07:31:59 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Subject: Frisell and Digitech pds8000 (was: pigtronix echolution....) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1338206148-1302705119=:56677" Resent-Message-ID: <9-Qq1.A.6VC.hPbpNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108936 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:32:01 +0000 (UTC) --0-1338206148-1302705119=:56677 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0 --- On Tue, 4/12/11, Scott Hansen wrote: ...yes the discussion about the pds8000, i've never had one, just heard the= results and watched some vids (the bill frisell demo of it is AMAZING!)... =A0 =A0 Can you point to those vid's, Scott? =A0 I've found Bill and Joey Baron doing Wildwood Flower here: http://www.youtu= be.com/watch?v=3DFlaRMbPTtOA.=A0 Is this what you're referring to? =A0 =A0 ted. Or would you sing somethin' different. Somethin' real. Somethin' *you* felt= . Cause I'm telling you right now, that's the kind of song people want to h= ear. That's the kind of song that truly saves people. It ain't got nothin t= o do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with believin' in yourse= lf. Sam Phillips, "Walk the Line" --0-1338206148-1302705119=:56677 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
--- On Tue, 4/12/11, Scott Hansen <evanpeewee@gmail.com> wrote:
...yes the discussion about the pds8000, i've never had one, just hear= d the results and watched some vids (the bill frisell demo of it is AMAZING= !)...
 
 
Can you point to those vid's, Scott?
 
I've found Bill and Joey Baron doing Wildwood Flower here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?= v=3DFlaRMbPTtOA.  Is this what you're referring to?
 
 
ted.

Or would you sing somethin' different. Somethin' real. Som= ethin' *you* felt. Cause I'm telling you right now, that's the kind of song= people want to hear. That's the kind of song that truly saves people. It a= in't got nothin to do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with be= lievin' in yourself. Sam Phillips, "Walk the Line"
--0-1338206148-1302705119=:56677-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 13 14:34:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 275FB1834A0; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:34:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20539332da47fff96dbc46c74f37b360.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <647903.12280.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <647903.12280.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:34:50 -0400 Subject: Re: korg monotron... Good video clip From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Andr=E9_Donawa=22?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108937 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:34:50 +0000 (UTC) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNMoxGLrB6c Andre http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress http://www.andredonawa.com On Tue, April 12, 2011 2:08 pm, ditch wrestler wrote: >   > The monotribe does like interesting...  www.korg.com/monotribe >   > Weird that they made the input jack 1/8" but the output is 1/4"...  Why > not two 1/4"? >   >   > the other ted. > > Or would you sing somethin' different. Somethin' real. Somethin' *you* > felt. Cause I'm telling you right now, that's the kind of song people want > to hear. That's the kind of song that truly saves people. It ain't got > nothin to do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with believin' > in yourself. Sam Phillips, "Walk the Line" > > --- On Tue, 4/12/11, Michał Wiernowolski wrote: > > > From: Michał Wiernowolski > Subject: Re: korg monotron > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Received: Tuesday, April 12, 2011, 8:55 AM > > > You may wish to take a look at the Korg monotribe, which has just been > announced. > It's based on similar concepts as monotrone, but is much more advanced > with things like > drums and step sequencer. Quite obviously the price will also be more > advanced;-) > It somehow addresses the problem with ribbon controller you've mentioned > by offering chromatic mode. > > Regards, > Michał > > > On 12.04.2011 14:27, Rick Walker wrote: >> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Lindsey Walker wrote: >>> Hey, has anyone else played with the monotron?  What did you do with >>> it?  I think it would be a fun sound source for loops, without sitting >>> behind a laptop, of course. >>> >>> Lindsey >> I don't own one, but I've played around with one a bit at Union Grove >> Music. >> >> What strikes me is that a 'musical', (that is , melodic) instrument , it >> is very limited for the previously >> mentioned lack of individual keys. >> >> However, as a sound source or noise source with a fair amount of >> sophistication in terms of bang for the buck, >> I think it's really wonderful. >> >> Also,  from my understanding,  you can run any audio through it's >> filter system as an 'effect' which is >> also very hip. >> >> When I have the dough,   I'll be buying one, for sure, myself for my >> Rhythm and Noise project,  aEther Engine. >> >> Hope you are doing well, Lindsey.    We really missed you at the >> Looping Festival this year.  I hope you'll come >> play Y2K11. >> >> hugs,   Rick >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 13 15:49:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 86C7E183486; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 15:49:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <0962E58A-60C1-49C3-80E3-F3A731E88091@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: our war on nature,when will it stop... (O.T.) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 08:49:19 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <8MBHzC.A.MAE.HYcpNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108938 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 15:49:27 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for posting these links Louie, maybe if any good comes out of this, it will be to wake up the world to move away from nuclear energy and on to cleaner more sustainable forms of energy. When the quake and Tsunami hit Japan last month, my wife Nancy and I were on our way to North Carolina and for the first few days we were in Asheville, all we could do was watch the tragedy unfold on TV. I started to e-mail friends in Japan not knowing at that point if any were in harms way or note, luckily they weren't. But as the gravity of the event started to take shape, perhaps the worst natural catastrophe meets human error that I will ever see in my lifetime, I started to try and organize a benefit back home in Santa Cruz to help the Japanese people, of which, most of the victims are average hard working citizens that had nothing to do with the big government and power broker stupidity that is causing the worst nuclear event since Chernobyl, compounding one of the biggest and most devastating quakes in recorded history. A month later we are still struggling to organize an event that is more than a token gesture of support and solidarity for the Japanese people, and I'm dismayed to se that not much has been done in the way of big media sponsored events like the Haitian relief benefits. Where are our self congratulating celebrities waving their hands and singing "we are the World"??? I think that as much as radiation poisoning stokes our fears we can't loose sight of the fact that regardless of where you stand on the issue, our Japanese brothers and sisters need our help desperately and will so for the foreseeable future, and I urge everyone on this list to do what they can to help. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 13 17:08:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF75C18349F; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 17:08:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=mv6p0evHK5oaaszdGOdPpX2gukCN/qaUKdWsyXxgFy4=; b=O4bmMf8sBBSpZhWhanpZ2iZgczGDgbc3HUjqjPjI1WBsdsZHJCDxh/GCVV6jLKRkgS a1SW1Rp4t8W8Q2PaN97vHMPC56JjQZriatHe2g/bSL2ca7lFaL7glt4Ziaj9pi28eNnL 16eQ7504TTPRU04gJ+qR1pe/mtqTSlqTla1M0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; b=aZDf+sfZL2bRzGAujmoWLnbc7kwZtfojNuTAsZnAhfh3oyHbhiIMJHO0VhCyfnq9RO nJpfb7vtrqKZ0NpBQxwHy7X71HrWDVORC6g7Dkg9q1q1GGIYKj0EOAhwsoIOno/87SOb iEEqwUiP1d1lTw/U6sKmD4oaGToZJS4UCJO/Y= Message-ID: <4DA5D89D.1050800@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 19:08:45 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBXaWVybm93b2xza2k=?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; pl-PL; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110223 Thunderbird/3.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: korg monotron References: <647903.12280.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <647903.12280.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020800020001060103020007" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108939 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 17:08:52 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020800020001060103020007 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is to attract people that simply want to hook up their mp3 players and have some fun. There is a built-in speaker so you don't need the output, which is intended for more serious use. (And my impressions are the monotribe can deliver a lot!) The same goes for the ribbon strip - you can play monos even if you can't play any instrument. This is in fact very clever from Korg as it extends the market beyond typical amateur or prof. musician. To make it clear I like this idea and think there is a good place for such instruments. > The monotribe does like interesting... www.*korg*.com/*monotribe* > > Weird that they made the input jack 1/8" but the output is 1/4"... > Why not two 1/4"? > the other ted. > (...) --------------020800020001060103020007 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This is to attract people that simply want to hook up their mp3 players and have some fun.
There is a built-in speaker so you don't need the output, which is intended for more serious use.
(And my impressions are the monotribe can deliver a lot!)
The same goes for the ribbon strip - you can play monos even if you can't play any instrument.
This is in fact very clever from Korg as it extends the market beyond typical amateur or prof. musician.
To make it clear I like this idea and think there is a good place for such instruments.

 
The monotribe does like interesting...  www.korg.com/monotribe
 
Weird that they made the input jack 1/8" but the output is 1/4"...  Why not two 1/4"?
 
 
the other ted.
(...) --------------020800020001060103020007-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 13 18:12:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 362B718349C; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 18:12:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fCSomAyCaBn2sHjPjBsjg1FS7GAM4PwwubmtB0S1aCs=; b=EVxcS1R3s5AW8q2YKgER3YDHUm+4B87BgqbiqREO6TEq5mLONUpbpFizmgW7R0CcGY UL3KdBDWeLXpkv3R4hOtbTjVbaraIa+YihaDEuKej52/ky0ArjbqrADDQoxNa8EKtKHS zrH6il4DU9ifhJarkcMS+pilvQyYJQp6k8ggQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=lsS1CCKIoCN2tB5DLpzEun4iYoZN+CUhVGL3gIi+B/AN1kmJrbabCYfj1JBFrZHCyD yVLfinq4DGWlxpJj/i7nYIf3MOK/IdlIPO6uAedGhRVEbm88vidYR4MpNoGP8sWBz6Hr k7Nxg6j4DpijBHDIHRIWxKXhZQZtnC9bYTUng= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <50A0CC9E-06D6-47E0-8330-89FA05B166F4@mac.com> References: <4DA44526.3000905@cruzio.com> <50A0CC9E-06D6-47E0-8330-89FA05B166F4@mac.com> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 11:12:09 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: korg monotron From: Eric DeAratanha To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3071ced8412a1804a0d0bf26 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108940 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 18:12:10 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3071ced8412a1804a0d0bf26 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey Dan, Maybe it will help to imagine korg didnt provide the "keyboard" graphic... just imagine it as a tiny electronic trombone or something of the sort... Who needs intonation anyway!? I actually have one... and have managed to play some simple melody with some interesting intonation discoveries. Hey, how else are you going to play those rad inbetween notes that are present in a lot of asian and indian traditional musics? I also LOVE how you can get some super far out filter sweeps and buzzy chirpy noise... delightful. PS, this is my first post to the Looper's Delight. Its a delight to be a looper and to be reading all this lovely cutting edge musical thinking that goes on in y'all's heads. hehe Thanks for being... keep on creating... -Eric On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote: > > However, as a sound source or noise source with a fair amount of > sophistication in terms of bang for the buck.. > > I just couldn't get passed the lamo keyboard. For someone with a modicum > of key chops, this is a big and unnecessary product limitation. > > D > > > > On Apr 12, 2011, at 5:27 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > > > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Lindsey Walker wrote: > >> Hey, has anyone else played with the monotron? What did you do with > >> it? I think it would be a fun sound source for loops, without sitting > >> behind a laptop, of course. > >> > >> Lindsey > > I don't own one, but I've played around with one a bit at Union Grove > Music. > > > > What strikes me is that a 'musical', (that is , melodic) instrument , it > is very limited for the previously > > mentioned lack of individual keys. > > > > However, as a sound source or noise source with a fair amount of > sophistication in terms of bang for the buck, > > I think it's really wonderful. > > > > Also, from my understanding, you can run any audio through it's filter > system as an 'effect' which is > > also very hip. > > > > When I have the dough, I'll be buying one, for sure, myself for my > Rhythm and Noise project, aEther Engine. > > > > Hope you are doing well, Lindsey. We really missed you at the Looping > Festival this year. I hope you'll come > > play Y2K11. > > > > hugs, Rick > > > > --20cf3071ced8412a1804a0d0bf26 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Dan,
Maybe it will help to imagine korg didnt provide the "keyb= oard" graphic... just imagine it as a tiny electronic trombone or some= thing of the sort... Who needs intonation anyway!?
I actually have one..= . and have managed to play some simple melody with some interesting intonat= ion discoveries. Hey, how else are you going to play those rad inbetween no= tes that are present in a lot of asian and indian traditional musics? I als= o LOVE how you can get some super far out filter sweeps and buzzy chirpy no= ise... delightful.

PS, this is my first post to the Looper's Delight. Its a delight to= be a looper and to be reading all this lovely cutting edge musical thinkin= g that goes on in y'all's heads. hehe Thanks for being...

keep on creating...
-Eric

On Tue, Apr = 12, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com> wrote:
> However, as a sound source or noise source with a fa= ir amount of sophistication in terms of bang for the buck..

I just couldn't get passed the lamo keyboard. =A0For someone with= a modicum of key chops, this is a big and unnecessary product limitation.<= br>
D



On Apr 12, 2011, at 5:27 AM, Rick Walker wrote:

> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Lindsey Walker wrote:
>> Hey, has anyone else played with the monotron? =A0What did you do = with
>> it? =A0I think it would be a fun sound source for loops, without s= itting
>> behind a laptop, of course.
>>
>> Lindsey
> I don't own one, but I've played around with one a bit at Unio= n Grove Music.
>
> What strikes me is that a 'musical', (that is , melodic) instr= ument , it is very limited for the previously
> mentioned lack of individual keys.
>
> However, as a sound source or noise source with a fair amount of sophi= stication in terms of bang for the buck,
> I think it's really wonderful.
>
> Also, =A0from my understanding, =A0you can run any audio through it= 9;s filter system as an 'effect' which is
> also very hip.
>
> When I have the dough, =A0 I'll be buying one, for sure, myself fo= r my Rhythm and Noise project, =A0aEther Engine.
>
> Hope you are doing well, Lindsey. =A0 =A0We really missed you at the L= ooping Festival this year. =A0I hope you'll come
> play Y2K11.
>
> hugs, =A0 Rick
>


--20cf3071ced8412a1804a0d0bf26-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 13 20:43:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE00C183486; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 20:43:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=/3HBrKregLP9zexZui9lezN5S0Ww27PsDUK0GIWSv+k=; b=cW7TWGgYlSMOLVYdcXHZrnSuanJB9RCfRSpP3x/535Otg/e5lQYk5wzyJX9mq0B5Rp 7cGtHRqsFJq2lkKFNZbo9m8IN3TO3w3zXQwON/4mv0K9GxRoBGEuRnMtTq2koHh2yC9v dbuYILoLzL4DoMAQZxJ2mz9SMPVFrehbrds+k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ieenAUJ7HTZdDPh9tQid7TddP+rVqZ8JpOe2NFKcJFteJ5E5dH1OoNgsKRxN8Ts8/X epelI2JR0sLjVuAiBTW/LqXQJulST6WZo/fkCcW2Of+xbGB8tyyYQ7Cy1rSb2+SXH71G gT7+KnXfSNHQPAC8P8KWv0DN+OXs9C1dIcZIM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 22:43:18 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Bill Walker Meets the Moog Lap Steel From: andy soto To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0026188766d6ce93ca04a0d2dba0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108941 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 20:43:19 +0000 (UTC) --0026188766d6ce93ca04a0d2dba0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I don't know if this has been posted here yet! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7HSmHE0OIrI#at=88 The Walker brothers, they'll never cease to amaze me! Andy --0026188766d6ce93ca04a0d2dba0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=A0I don't know if this has been posted here yet!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=3Dplayer_embedded&v=3D7H= SmHE0OIrI#at=3D88

=A0The Walker brothers, they'll never cease to amaze me!

=A0= Andy
--0026188766d6ce93ca04a0d2dba0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 13 21:11:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 46BED18349F; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 21:11:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=7nw9p4h4USjnYq5Dr/HfPh6KFlDgcaxRMxZqB9dgP9o=; b=ZLLsrbGXRwmMJ5fsm2QXE4EzGnWbovIj+Y5SvEUDNnsJKTlOQ1dLs8Tuo7MvDdNdX2 h2Ul0clDpn/9wfnMJM+2aW6PC8JO0qKqvkYUSOATEGo2rkUz8ZYTdwp0fH7jcElL5wtF UKZUoKaBJYxX3CWLIrm5z5RYYfqcv5r8Sg9TY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=FP4mCPdpx4okYw0aKbTCBMey4dTqlmiAs7EwYP8GrgxJV/YzeBiqwALxWs4+JsV+ad dATio3ae1xoOq0NPtgKX2bLaf9vdPtZat5CJ3tbJJbsI9MRv/ncUq7xHEgfJ36aunPjs LbHR2M/aIhT2kBI+pplmJsC5pUgDkqicFLEbM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 16:11:48 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Bill Walker Meets the Moog Lap Steel From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: andy soto Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d97651c8480e04a0d34147 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108942 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 21:11:51 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d97651c8480e04a0d34147 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 WTF is that behind you? The new Moog Loop-Gasm 9000 SX ? Is the gravitational pull distracting? Jeff Oh, and wonderful playing as always! On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 3:43 PM, andy soto wrote: > > I don't know if this has been posted here yet! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7HSmHE0OIrI#at=88 > > The Walker brothers, they'll never cease to amaze me! > > Andy > --0016e6d97651c8480e04a0d34147 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
WTF is that behind you? =A0The new Moog Loop-Gasm 9000 SX ? =A0Is the = gravitational pull distracting?

Jeff
Oh, and wonderful playing as always!

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 3:43 PM, andy soto <musicalmexicana@gmail.com>= wrote:

=A0I don't know if this has been posted here yet!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=3Dplayer_e= mbedded&v=3D7HSmHE0OIrI#at=3D88

=A0The Walker brothers, they'll never cease to amaze me!

=A0Andy

--0016e6d97651c8480e04a0d34147-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 13 21:29:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA95018349F; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 21:29:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <4CC60BAD-211C-4319-A4B1-68963E7C20FD@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4-152936314 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: OT: Moog lap steel Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:29:27 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <0bgq4.A.OwD.DXhpNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108943 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 21:29:39 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4-152936314 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When I was in at NAMM in January I was introduced to the A and R guy for Moog who gave me a brief introduction to the new moog lap steel. By coincidence I was due to be in Asheville NC,where Moog is based, for a week in March with my wife Nancy to care for her 86 year old mother while Nancy's sister was away, and I was invited to the factory to further check out the new lap steel and shoot some video of it. I was accompanied by my new good friend and LD member Andy Owens, and we had a blast , visiting the factory and meeting nearly everyone who worked there:-)and I had about an hour to check out the the instrument which they edited down in to this video. It is really another experience altogether the way this instrument handles the infinite sustain thing, having owned an ebow forever and tried various sustainer devices. This seems capable of the same kind of mayhem, but also more control and subtlety as well. The most interesting thing for me was being able to sweep from one chord position to another without having to generate sustain by creating a physically driven vibrato by shaking the bar, or even striking the strings with my fingers. I might get some grief from Randy Jackson for being pitchy in places but I went in a sceptic and left wondering how I could get the money together to buy one. amazing. Enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HSmHE0OIrI Bill --Apple-Mail-4-152936314 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When I was in at NAMM in = January  I was introduced to the A and R guy for Moog who gave me a = brief introduction to the new moog lap steel.  By coincidence I was = due to be in Asheville NC,where Moog is based, for a week =   in March with my wife Nancy  to care for her 86 year old = mother while Nancy's sister was away, and I was invited to the factory = to further check out the new lap steel and shoot some video of it. I was = accompanied by my new good friend and LD member Andy Owens, and we had a = blast , visiting the factory and meeting nearly everyone who worked = there:-)and I had about an hour to check out the the instrument which = they edited down in to this video. It is really another experience = altogether the way this instrument handles the infinite sustain thing, = having owned an ebow forever and tried various sustainer devices. This = seems capable of the same kind of mayhem,  but also  more = control and subtlety as well. The most interesting thing for me was = being able to sweep from one chord position to another without having to = generate sustain by creating a physically driven vibrato by shaking the = bar, or even striking the strings with my fingers. I might get some = grief from Randy Jackson for being pitchy in places but I went in a = sceptic and left wondering how I could get the money together to buy = one. amazing.  Enjoy
Bill
= --Apple-Mail-4-152936314-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 13 21:42:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3AF9018349F; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 21:42:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gq2yrCQdZYfDCfkrwfQx5uKJMR8Ub5Ub4jWqfXDAI34=; b=mciLM96VOg8gAUfWJc+fkW9tkZEZgadUi27AnumtP0rVjtgAJbI5uYLACVKx4jEr4x kaMxZ3RsNGHD5KJ1B4llh/PA48VUI1qzdXUySi3TLXBxhHl/JIxg8thI09R5pocbJjjJ yrOScR82x/zMmiQgI18RZGX7+lv1ssSd/eBXg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LmeAFwXbdM8UkQ/A5vDgmsNWlyymcIjG/Cuuz2X70xqBbzmKujr/+/4euWfmd+qIfY KneWdarOufkOxK2GVjGhc4Av2fG+rb2LjihPgpd7N0+wOUM3qJ2fGwwx9bYh7M1hlVcq CPNTB8JnBQP37L2J1hYr2jDPS4fk14XQiUIig= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CC60BAD-211C-4319-A4B1-68963E7C20FD@baymoon.com> References: <4CC60BAD-211C-4319-A4B1-68963E7C20FD@baymoon.com> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 22:42:28 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Moog lap steel From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6dab47367e97004a0d3afa8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108944 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 21:42:29 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6dab47367e97004a0d3afa8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That's a beautiful piece of kit. Nice one, Bill. On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:29 PM, William Walker wrote: > When I was in at NAMM in January I was introduced to the A and R guy for > Moog who gave me a brief introduction to the new moog lap steel. By > coincidence I was due to be in Asheville NC,where Moog is based, for a week > in March with my wife Nancy to care for her 86 year old mother while > Nancy's sister was away, and I was invited to the factory to further check > out the new lap steel and shoot some video of it. I was accompanied by my > new good friend and LD member Andy Owens, and we had a blast , visiting the > factory and meeting nearly everyone who worked there:-)and I had about an > hour to check out the the instrument which they edited down in to this > video. It is really another experience altogether the way this instrument > handles the infinite sustain thing, having owned an ebow forever and tried > various sustainer devices. This seems capable of the same kind of mayhem, > but also more control and subtlety as well. The most interesting thing for > me was being able to sweep from one chord position to another without having > to generate sustain by creating a physically driven vibrato by shaking the > bar, or even striking the strings with my fingers. I might get some grief > from Randy Jackson for being pitchy in places but I went in a sceptic and > left wondering how I could get the money together to buy one. amazing. > Enjoy > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HSmHE0OIrI > Bill > --0016e6dab47367e97004a0d3afa8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's a beautiful piece of kit. Nice one, Bill.

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:29 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:
When I was in at NAMM in January =A0I was introduced t= o the A and R guy for Moog who gave me a brief introduction to the new moog= lap steel. =A0By coincidence I was due to be in Asheville NC,where Moog=A0= is based,=A0for a week =A0 in March with my wife Nancy =A0to care for her 8= 6 year old mother while Nancy's sister was away, and I was invited to t= he factory to further check out the new lap steel and shoot some video of i= t. I was accompanied by my new good friend and LD member Andy Owens, and we= had a blast , visiting the factory and meeting nearly everyone who worked = there:-)and I had about an hour to check out the the instrument which they = edited down in to this video. It is really another experience altogether th= e way this instrument handles the infinite sustain thing, having owned an e= bow forever and tried various sustainer devices. This seems capable of the = same kind of mayhem, =A0but also =A0more control and subtlety as well. The = most interesting thing for me was being able to sweep from one chord positi= on to another without having to generate sustain by creating a physically d= riven vibrato by shaking the bar, or even striking the strings with my fing= ers. I might get some grief from Randy Jackson for being pitchy in places b= ut I went in a sceptic and left wondering how I could get the money togethe= r to buy one. amazing. =A0Enjoy
Bill
=

--0016e6dab47367e97004a0d3afa8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 13 23:34:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DFFF618349F; Wed, 13 Apr 2011 23:34:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 19:34:49 -0400 Subject: Man Makes Music Out of an Old Game Boy From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Andr=E9_Donawa=22?= To: "Loopers-Delight Loopers-Delight" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108945 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 23:34:46 +0000 (UTC) http://news.yahoo.com/s/mashable/20110412/tc_mashable/man_makes_music_out_of_an_old_game_boy_video http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress http://www.youtube.com/user/AndreDonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 14 02:47:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A746018349F; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 02:47:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9oy+rgwRWcaS45mObbbnaE6ySj1QbsyC7YmL9Bi6hHc=; b=TuBoOIH4NYceYTtRx3sgphvS8nyG/zkwDpbKw8tI5zlrf8TFPsARpHT61fUBuMEqfZ PQTQhIvT/b7cweovMCN6QvkphMRU+gKF7aBEMetGmN4+WDtjIdR7ejBP5ILemrNO36kf RkY26QaQMcIu+G1hRvjQAdB5vp7kvSxbFzoz4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=fUlovyVr8t17LS8VacGNNvw7AKbmH21egjR0JMNVMBFVOdQgddVWh+6AgPfeogu03O a52xLgW8qZohH3eNHs5wG4a+I/PoivvbzRFx1gPeK9TOT7uyHhBav7ctpnF2cFEaeqjV 6Dygx6qKSVY2Vw60N9KX1e+MhJAZbrKhFlHts= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4CC60BAD-211C-4319-A4B1-68963E7C20FD@baymoon.com> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 22:47:30 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Moog lap steel From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0023545309c850801104a0d7f28e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108946 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 02:47:32 +0000 (UTC) --0023545309c850801104a0d7f28e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bill that is wonderful. I posted a comment on the page but Mr Moog has to approve so in the meantime I think the thing that knowing you in recent years that is different and fresh for me here is despite the beauty of so much of your swells, intensity and lushness is the sense of intricacity her= e that sounds very 'Asian' in a sense, very pointal in a way. Like it and still subtle changes you bring in. Wild seeing all the Moog jazz around you, must have been a bit like being in a space ship or at Marc Francombe's house (smiles). I recall seeing a webstream he did at some point and it wa= s in front of this huge rack! J On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Ricky Graham w= rote: > That's a beautiful piece of kit. Nice one, Bill. > > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:29 PM, William Walker = wrote: > >> When I was in at NAMM in January I was introduced to the A and R guy fo= r >> Moog who gave me a brief introduction to the new moog lap steel. By >> coincidence I was due to be in Asheville NC,where Moog is based, for a w= eek >> in March with my wife Nancy to care for her 86 year old mother while >> Nancy's sister was away, and I was invited to the factory to further che= ck >> out the new lap steel and shoot some video of it. I was accompanied by m= y >> new good friend and LD member Andy Owens, and we had a blast , visiting = the >> factory and meeting nearly everyone who worked there:-)and I had about a= n >> hour to check out the the instrument which they edited down in to this >> video. It is really another experience altogether the way this instrumen= t >> handles the infinite sustain thing, having owned an ebow forever and tri= ed >> various sustainer devices. This seems capable of the same kind of mayhem= , >> but also more control and subtlety as well. The most interesting thing= for >> me was being able to sweep from one chord position to another without ha= ving >> to generate sustain by creating a physically driven vibrato by shaking t= he >> bar, or even striking the strings with my fingers. I might get some grie= f >> from Randy Jackson for being pitchy in places but I went in a sceptic an= d >> left wondering how I could get the money together to buy one. amazing. >> Enjoy >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7HSmHE0OIrI >> Bill >> > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --0023545309c850801104a0d7f28e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bill that is wonderful. =A0I posted a comment on the page but Mr Moog has t= o approve so in the meantime I think the thing that knowing you in recent y= ears that is different and fresh for me here is despite the beauty of so mu= ch of your swells, intensity and lushness is the sense of intricacity here = that sounds very 'Asian' in a sense, very pointal in a way. =A0Like= it and still subtle changes you bring in. =A0Wild seeing all the Moog jazz= around you, must have been a bit like being in a space ship or at Marc Fra= ncombe's house (smiles). =A0I recall seeing a webstream he did at some = point and it was in front of this huge rack!

J

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at = 5:42 PM, Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> wrote:
That's a beautiful piece of kit. Nice one, Bill.


On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:29= PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:
When I was in at NAMM in January =A0I was introduced to the A = and R guy for Moog who gave me a brief introduction to the new moog lap ste= el. =A0By coincidence I was due to be in Asheville NC,where Moog=A0is based= ,=A0for a week =A0 in March with my wife Nancy =A0to care for her 86 year o= ld mother while Nancy's sister was away, and I was invited to the facto= ry to further check out the new lap steel and shoot some video of it. I was= accompanied by my new good friend and LD member Andy Owens, and we had a b= last , visiting the factory and meeting nearly everyone who worked there:-)= and I had about an hour to check out the the instrument which they edited d= own in to this video. It is really another experience altogether the way th= is instrument handles the infinite sustain thing, having owned an ebow fore= ver and tried various sustainer devices. This seems capable of the same kin= d of mayhem, =A0but also =A0more control and subtlety as well. The most int= eresting thing for me was being able to sweep from one chord position to an= other without having to generate sustain by creating a physically driven vi= brato by shaking the bar, or even striking the strings with my fingers. I m= ight get some grief from Randy Jackson for being pitchy in places but I wen= t in a sceptic and left wondering how I could get the money together to buy= one. amazing. =A0Enjoy
Bill
=




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From Bro= oklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & = Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF In= ternational.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--0023545309c850801104a0d7f28e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 14 02:58:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D8A518349F; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 02:58:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=3wZE5/og5raPTzeUE31o2G8Ig+FeEMpEFQCON+poVq4=; b=knbInnNKGSECMz56Yr6Na8JD0xsRV5qGu45W03HCekp7dnROOxnRt30RA7lKjjUAFe Q+cNyDSJWKh2CIWX67Cwj4x7Vtajk1zlsRTsAga9R2zIU2/cKaTsfhAEQx6XtmJKwrar Kf34qHKEtdPiei3EwxGvYQzQfN7iqtoWSmwps= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Mzvd4YPAAyQhgcEJiY44kYMDSziu1M1mKxXWi2ime7bl4IdYxzeJnRIdXX5yNypFR2 XLnW7wTvJiai1ht9hvCGeibh0u+vUcO754t2z3VZZVTa2pBz/gpPQF6g9gp9OKl0Wxzk 2ACje2nfP22erP+YyeHShQoH2nAxzDyixKnyM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 19:58:02 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Bill Walker Meets the Moog Lap Steel From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Jeff Larson , andy soto Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=485b397dd109f9159d04a0d817ac Resent-Message-ID: <5xW4BD.A.EGC.7KmpNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108947 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 02:58:03 +0000 (UTC) --485b397dd109f9159d04a0d817ac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Now that's cool! Wonderful Bill. On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > WTF is that behind you? The new Moog Loop-Gasm 9000 SX ? Is the > gravitational pull distracting? > > Jeff > > Oh, and wonderful playing as always! > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 3:43 PM, andy soto wrote: > >> >> I don't know if this has been posted here yet! >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7HSmHE0OIrI#at=88 >> >> The Walker brothers, they'll never cease to amaze me! >> >> Andy >> > > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon --485b397dd109f9159d04a0d817ac Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now that's cool! Wonderful Bill.

On W= ed, Apr 13, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com> w= rote:
WTF is that behind you? =A0The new Moo= g Loop-Gasm 9000 SX ? =A0Is the gravitational pull distracting?
<= br>
Jeff

Oh, and wonderful playing as always!

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 3:43 PM, andy soto <musicalmexicana@gmail.= com> wrote:

=A0I don't know if this has been posted here yet!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=3Dplayer_e= mbedded&v=3D7HSmHE0OIrI#at=3D88

=A0The Walker brothers, they'll never cease to amaze me!

=A0Andy




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--485b397dd109f9159d04a0d817ac-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 14 03:05:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1004418349F; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 03:05:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Telus-Outbound-IP: 154.5.117.228 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=ElJBjKuQT9b1ppeWeQ/6K/jnhC0NHng8VFm/Oxwgxks= c=1 sm=2 a=agWTFdhlyG4A:10 a=kZCaSYHnAAAA:8 a=AmuB-pcYAAAA:8 a=x9LQtntrAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=ln1r7FABZbG-oJMJ82sA:9 a=XjbHbgZHkmRNBhTsjpgA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=9dKDUTTeGJsA:10 a=4g1Un4FPLDYA:10 a=k9XOtJXmrMMA:10 a=tba3dIL7ZMOgrKBl6UUA:9 a=vU-WPcYYOwRu3QsuPGwA:7 From: richard sales Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8-173080855 Subject: Re: OT: Moog lap steel Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 20:05:11 -0700 In-Reply-To: <4CC60BAD-211C-4319-A4B1-68963E7C20FD@baymoon.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4CC60BAD-211C-4319-A4B1-68963E7C20FD@baymoon.com> Message-Id: <995EFC13-1714-414F-8825-1BD980D91355@glasswing.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108948 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 03:05:14 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-8-173080855 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well Bill... I'm sure they'd have given you one if they hadn't seen you banging on it = towards the end !!! :) Nice stuff. Really good! They SHOULD give you one. =20 R richard sales www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com On Apr 13, 2011, at 2:29 PM, William Walker wrote: > When I was in at NAMM in January I was introduced to the A and R guy = for Moog who gave me a brief introduction to the new moog lap steel. By = coincidence I was due to be in Asheville NC,where Moog is based, for a = week in March with my wife Nancy to care for her 86 year old mother = while Nancy's sister was away, and I was invited to the factory to = further check out the new lap steel and shoot some video of it. I was = accompanied by my new good friend and LD member Andy Owens, and we had a = blast , visiting the factory and meeting nearly everyone who worked = there:-)and I had about an hour to check out the the instrument which = they edited down in to this video. It is really another experience = altogether the way this instrument handles the infinite sustain thing, = having owned an ebow forever and tried various sustainer devices. This = seems capable of the same kind of mayhem, but also more control and = subtlety as well. The most interesting thing for me was being able to = sweep from one chord position to another without having to generate = sustain by creating a physically driven vibrato by shaking the bar, or = even striking the strings with my fingers. I might get some grief from = Randy Jackson for being pitchy in places but I went in a sceptic and = left wondering how I could get the money together to buy one. amazing. = Enjoy > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7HSmHE0OIrI > Bill --Apple-Mail-8-173080855 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Well = Bill...

I'm sure they'd have given you one if they = hadn't seen you banging on it towards the end !!! = :)

Nice stuff.  Really good!  They = SHOULD give you one.  

R
richard sales
<= font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38">www.richardsales.com
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On Apr 13, 2011, at 2:29 PM, William Walker = wrote:

When I was in at NAMM in = January  I was introduced to the A and R guy for Moog who gave me a = brief introduction to the new moog lap steel.  By coincidence I was = due to be in Asheville NC,where Moog is based, for a week =   in March with my wife Nancy  to care for her 86 year old = mother while Nancy's sister was away, and I was invited to the factory = to further check out the new lap steel and shoot some video of it. I was = accompanied by my new good friend and LD member Andy Owens, and we had a = blast , visiting the factory and meeting nearly everyone who worked = there:-)and I had about an hour to check out the the instrument which = they edited down in to this video. It is really another experience = altogether the way this instrument handles the infinite sustain thing, = having owned an ebow forever and tried various sustainer devices. This = seems capable of the same kind of mayhem,  but also  more = control and subtlety as well. The most interesting thing for me was = being able to sweep from one chord position to another without having to = generate sustain by creating a physically driven vibrato by shaking the = bar, or even striking the strings with my fingers. I might get some = grief from Randy Jackson for being pitchy in places but I went in a = sceptic and left wondering how I could get the money together to buy = one. amazing.  Enjoy
Bill
=
= --Apple-Mail-8-173080855-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 14 03:10:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA5C618349E; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 03:10:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=mDN9X9KxFbz+OeW7K6/7n/EmIjEnGZTJ8tcAi2igKyE=; b=DiGnW7sTzTeTxZF7U73LXrS2DfDF1rcCjSiu3xwDhR6ByeDn6WYhWFinWBfwGms01m kC094CK38V2ILCXX1aFVZyvS7QvpcGBAJvyxTMFsMlIKfMBzq261Hbnq8yu2zW2l1Wbe 0JmKfS6m1A2/FKUU/gm3dcbzppCPmj31uOy6k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=tGa7UbrUi1hDuva5aLFKmwoePdgokcKXiauqARtxc5C8Bovbio/Rf0jbWKqYu16iPh Yw8HW5z9D639C0qxFqSVqV0UJZcd9jMt8xddNbZoEilQEVLrcCt7mbiBJ9rkDN49rUnE n8tM20D+H5UkCn85KNAp5eT2/HhuSdHJFMAFw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <995EFC13-1714-414F-8825-1BD980D91355@glasswing.com> References: <4CC60BAD-211C-4319-A4B1-68963E7C20FD@baymoon.com> <995EFC13-1714-414F-8825-1BD980D91355@glasswing.com> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 20:10:50 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Moog lap steel From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: richard sales Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549efdbd514e04a0d845c6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108949 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 03:10:51 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549efdbd514e04a0d845c6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Bill, if they didn't give you one, let me know. I'll start a letter writing campaign. There would be no better way to showcase the modern lapsteel guitar. On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:05 PM, richard sales wrote: > Well Bill... > > I'm sure they'd have given you one if they hadn't seen you banging on it > towards the end !!! :) > > Nice stuff. Really good! They SHOULD give you one. > > R > richard sales > www.glasswing.com > www.richardsales.com > www.hayleysales.com > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 13, 2011, at 2:29 PM, William Walker wrote: > > When I was in at NAMM in January I was introduced to the A and R guy for > Moog who gave me a brief introduction to the new moog lap steel. By > coincidence I was due to be in Asheville NC,where Moog is based, for a week > in March with my wife Nancy to care for her 86 year old mother while > Nancy's sister was away, and I was invited to the factory to further check > out the new lap steel and shoot some video of it. I was accompanied by my > new good friend and LD member Andy Owens, and we had a blast , visiting the > factory and meeting nearly everyone who worked there:-)and I had about an > hour to check out the the instrument which they edited down in to this > video. It is really another experience altogether the way this instrument > handles the infinite sustain thing, having owned an ebow forever and tried > various sustainer devices. This seems capable of the same kind of mayhem, > but also more control and subtlety as well. The most interesting thing for > me was being able to sweep from one chord position to another without having > to generate sustain by creating a physically driven vibrato by shaking the > bar, or even striking the strings with my fingers. I might get some grief > from Randy Jackson for being pitchy in places but I went in a sceptic and > left wondering how I could get the money together to buy one. amazing. > Enjoy > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HSmHE0OIrI > Bill > > > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon --20cf30549efdbd514e04a0d845c6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bill, if they didn't give you one, let me know. I'll start a letter= writing campaign. There would be no better way to showcase the modern laps= teel guitar.

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:05= PM, richard sales <richard@glasswing.com> wrote:
Well Bi= ll...

I'm sure they'd have given you one if they= hadn't seen you banging on it towards the end !!! :)

Nice stuff. =A0Really good! =A0They SHOULD give you one= . =A0

R

On Apr 13, 2011, at 2:29 PM, William Walker wrote:

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When I was in = at NAMM in January =A0I was introduced to the A and R guy for Moog who gave= me a brief introduction to the new moog lap steel. =A0By coincidence I was= due to be in Asheville NC,where Moog=A0is based,=A0for a week =A0 in March= with my wife Nancy =A0to care for her 86 year old mother while Nancy's= sister was away, and I was invited to the factory to further check out the= new lap steel and shoot some video of it. I was accompanied by my new good= friend and LD member Andy Owens, and we had a blast , visiting the factory= and meeting nearly everyone who worked there:-)and I had about an hour to = check out the the instrument which they edited down in to this video. It is= really another experience altogether the way this instrument handles the i= nfinite sustain thing, having owned an ebow forever and tried various susta= iner devices. This seems capable of the same kind of mayhem, =A0but also = =A0more control and subtlety as well. The most interesting thing for me was= being able to sweep from one chord position to another without having to g= enerate sustain by creating a physically driven vibrato by shaking the bar,= or even striking the strings with my fingers. I might get some grief from = Randy Jackson for being pitchy in places but I went in a sceptic and left w= ondering how I could get the money together to buy one. amazing. =A0Enjoy = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7HSmHE0OIrI
Bill
=




--
Art Simon
simart@gmail.co= m
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--20cf30549efdbd514e04a0d845c6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 14 04:14:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C51518349F; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 04:14:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DA674AD.5060605@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 21:14:37 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: antonyhequet@yahoo.com CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: our war on nature,when will it stop... (O.T.) References: <123021.83983.qm@web120704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <123021.83983.qm@web120704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108950 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 04:14:45 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: > faith and consciousness > > Antony Hequet I'm going to add to this by writing: *Faith, Consciousness and Activism * if you don't mind. I know a lot of well spirited, green oriented human beings who would never write their congressperson or attend a political rally. These things are not going to fix themselves. We are going to have to push for it and vote with our spending dollars and vote the people out of office who are complacent about these issues or who are in the pockets of big business. Just sayin' with respect, Anthony, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 14 04:55:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4703918349F; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 04:55:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: our war on nature,when will it stop... (O.T.) References: <0962E58A-60C1-49C3-80E3-F3A731E88091@baymoon.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <0962E58A-60C1-49C3-80E3-F3A731E88091@baymoon.com> Thread-Topic: our war on nature,when will it stop... (O.T.) Message-ID: <82571D00-C9C6-4E80-AA82-23501AB11F6F@1800dialword.com> Thread-Index: Acv6YBTzcZbxkHPIRnStA16Sv23QTQ== Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 23:54:36 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Apr 2011 04:54:59.0284 (UTC) FILETIME=[1B596940:01CBFA60] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108951 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 04:55:01 +0000 (UTC) On Apr 13, 2011, at 10:49 AM, "William Walker" wrot= e: > will be to wake up the world to move away from nuclear energy and on to cl= eaner more sustainable forms of energy In relation to those issues, it is interesting that several fairly high prof= ile anti-nuc power advocates have changed their position due to the fact tha= t the fears of nuc disaster havent been realized and their feeling is if an o= ld outdated plant can take that kind of hit and not be a major frickdown, t= hen maybe it's not as dangerous as they thought. Heard two people with that m= ind change on NPR.=20 I myself have lost only one uncle to nuclear energy, my mom's brother was a p= retty famous nuclear physisist who died of cancer from years of exposure in t= he old days, but with relatives in both the eastern and western Kentucky coa= l mines I am sure that body count is a lot higher, in the dozens if not hund= reds, power always has a price, even seemingly clean hydro-electric power ca= uses huge ecological impact from overbuilding of man made lakes. =20 Heck lets just all unplug!!!! Andy O= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 14 06:24:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6FFA71834A0; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 06:24:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=VYllsoDNYBHpZ8Hs6VYbcKo648teuoNkw8bOKgQkXlA=; b=LG2HSCVrAx5VpRpvydB1AdMNpDpwmzbyJ9YIKc1CnUsqy8pJE1vg5wwESLhtP3MnfM xslIexBmuV6K4h5gU04Cv+3jBdFQvKE2jV8/SrZSruFv+2BAwG7D509a2d121Q9K4zjC eVwA8m0fwssTfkeB468PpFog4bqsw/KygG1M0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=S8jJZAuiZh+40H9GPtof5U0eA0gRvq3X3Wbt6f9DNAb05HDttamwFOmo8iG0aMUbO6 0R87U1MyVd+w3RYdN+6gAzOiEuN/prGd4xEtkO6z3DRuGczihMQZfa+KXwMpu6VADEqj DbAi2tHlSOaEqLAIQWLS3f0O/jrQWEY808yFc= References: <4DA44526.3000905@cruzio.com> <50A0CC9E-06D6-47E0-8330-89FA05B166F4@mac.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 08:23:29 +0200 Message-ID: <6703825214560937872@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: korg monotron To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51ddad989fcb904a0daf822 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108952 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 06:24:00 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec51ddad989fcb904a0daf822 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey! Welcome Eric! PS, this is my first post to the Looper's Delight. Its a delight to be a looper and to be reading all this lovely cutting edge musical thinking that goes on in y'all's heads. hehe Thanks for being... keep on creating... -Eric --bcaec51ddad989fcb904a0daf822 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey! Welcome Eric!=A0


PS, this is my first post to the Looper's Delight. Its a delight to= be a looper and to be reading all this lovely cutting edge musical thinkin= g that goes on in y'all's heads. hehe Thanks for being...

keep on creating...
-Eric

--bcaec51ddad989fcb904a0daf822-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 14 06:55:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A873418349F; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 06:55:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lFYzaoGGXSieN6UnM4+afTwsGLcWayw0LDMheOrQLb0=; b=AD9P9M6yz/BmXkDVQkNzGtXniI8BAmroiJSRH/eDagHCJuBA0Rbw72uGPjAELWIwva frQ12CRmeLKd/CQMAwHOENUHhmF4QT0lPCe3hRwvKTiqRz3QArxFoVx3pUgSrSvjs/AP QEcaVDepKZUuhSTfaJh3+OtKnT9SsWzt4+xcs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bp9+6Xjc2/NhmSOmQ4MDKy4pcOQKOO3VLW9VR4Zeozbm6JMr3wgVW80SSRZ3rau0Tn K7yuSNSW0B4rXmkPtuqPYH5L1oRs7g31X8a+uZKG8758V187AkF9bN2ZiVJ7wh5WL0N3 4ObHnCK5dldKCnRmt2GYf7LPf65WTAC5VVzMo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0962E58A-60C1-49C3-80E3-F3A731E88091@baymoon.com> References: <0962E58A-60C1-49C3-80E3-F3A731E88091@baymoon.com> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 08:55:41 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: our war on nature,when will it stop... (O.T.) From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108953 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 06:55:43 +0000 (UTC) Yes,i was reading about it in time magazine,it has been of the the worst disasters and the least helped so far,part of it they say has to do with the fact that Japan is a rich country and the misinformation about the real magnitude of the damage,and the fact that they themselves arent really calling out for help.My sister in law is from there and whe i ask her or her parents about it they just say everything is fine... One thing is for sure according to the news here,California is unfortunately going to be greatly affected by all of this,is jsut a matter of time and thats what makes me almost weep... Luis On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 5:49 PM, William Walker wr= ote: > =A0 Thanks for posting these links =A0 Louie, maybe if any good comes out= of > this, it will be to wake up the world to move away from nuclear energy an= d > on to cleaner more sustainable =A0forms of energy. When the quake and Tsu= nami > hit Japan last month, my wife =A0Nancy and I were on our way to North Car= olina > and for the first few days we were in Asheville, all we could do was watc= h > the tragedy unfold on TV. I started to e-mail friends in Japan not knowin= g > at that point if any were in harms way or note, luckily they weren't. But= as > the gravity of the event started to take shape, perhaps the worst =A0natu= ral > catastrophe meets human error that I will ever see in my lifetime, I star= ted > to try and organize a benefit back home in Santa Cruz to help the Japanes= e > people, of which, most of the victims =A0are average hard working citizen= s > that had nothing to do with the big government and power broker stupidity > that is causing the worst nuclear event since Chernobyl, compounding =A0 = one > of the biggest and most devastating quakes in recorded history. A month > later we are still struggling to organize an event that is more than a to= ken > gesture of support and solidarity for the Japanese people, and I'm dismay= ed > to se that not much has been done in the way of big media sponsored event= s > like the Haitian relief benefits. Where are our self congratulating > celebrities waving their hands and singing "we are the World"??? =A0I thi= nk > that as much as radiation poisoning stokes our fears we can't loose sight= of > the fact that regardless of where you stand on the issue, our Japanese > brothers and sisters need our help desperately and will so for the > foreseeable future, and I urge everyone on this list to do what they can = to > help. > =A0Bill > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 14 07:16:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D93518349F; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 07:16:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 604876.75290.bm@omp1025.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1302765390; bh=R7Hakj8B6bhXERcafofUpxa3P6STFZyx8a+goKMewKo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tccQ1uKYbqlaoYyVz4YzromoNgAFwU8z3Uz9UxaimJ96vrmk2mHZMKR/zFuPR8iNCDCQMjVM5NZEuypdrlXG+S0P7x9eBw94Gp3yevGJsP+xF64IZpbE5zquSmC8fQUqfjY/rR+pKVoYPb6qBCEENBSGzzUhqloO2/9JicEechk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mIsP8G+aRp3fi++NCQB8Ezpl2IquP2S6g63DK+o99EwuPz0GJ12CCS+Y9iP0HIbJUvFj2hS1xiykK1oxbwQbZH7Td61ZQHLQv6lAR33W9ZD5TXWSNRgxmHuwrQAHxTHA2nxc+IltUIN4JnggpOPlkIXgVy5guEC/Ww0Svsf50tY=; Message-ID: <226839.29395.qm@web112003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: IIeo_zEVM1mJ5kCwbLmwKaWWo4LrMXI5IkHONjq01JiNlgg VO6jecxQ9oPUzdNRWo1gnprYFtf3V_rsGjbDbhkbfNjh38Z5zwM0nZcJbpp0 UII7RCkkYGsMMKK0VgBhDATNgMbFDTuWDDdvjoozZDVkZLc6RvsF.7EX4.A9 RH26BEIc9cotm7vNCgL4j0rL49CBxdk8TXOS1_LP7F_cITzdrF0BuFTvx4_G wUTRgb8M3m5MmUZlmnsMP3vMreNfdchy.10s5hoe3t3r.5J4s1jQU9p50kuc ahkdn_D8Wx8hS..8t0kKAd49HpXLLktLxBxYeZ5Lyu0ERPghKOkTATl6XZV1 bVw7GMh2kdBXGqf0Kc3zi.urIPWveP8MDnASO8U6o85z3vxORsayIWNCZ2mi iqybpb.wE60A- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/12.0.2 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 00:16:30 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Re: our war on nature,when will it stop... (O.T.) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <1O7wtD.A.CDH.P9ppNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108954 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 07:16:32 +0000 (UTC) Considering that Japan's nuclear plants were running fine until a massive earthquake & tsunami, I would think the question should be.... Nature's war on us, when will it stop? John From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 14 08:40:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9048518349F; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 08:40:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <66D77000D2A34FDB89E8793EAD0508B3@ELUK1> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <0962E58A-60C1-49C3-80E3-F3A731E88091@baymoon.com> <82571D00-C9C6-4E80-AA82-23501AB11F6F@1800dialword.com> In-Reply-To: <82571D00-C9C6-4E80-AA82-23501AB11F6F@1800dialword.com> Subject: Re: our war on nature,when will it stop... (O.T.) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 09:40:51 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3508.1109 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3508.1109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108955 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 08:40:55 +0000 (UTC) I on the other hand have better experiences with nuclear energy, which when managed safely - ie not by a government drone 'jobs' op - is quite a good substitute for oil power, and despite rhetorical comments is not "war on nature": my godfather was until his retirement a scientist at the famous Oak Ridge facility for years, and not only had six non-mutated children, but is still quite alive and well. I believe that it is only by USING this stuff that it can be improved further, making more possible the science present fiction of "Mr Fusion". -----Original Message----- From: Andy Owens Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 5:54 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: our war on nature,when will it stop... (O.T.) On Apr 13, 2011, at 10:49 AM, "William Walker" wrote: > will be to wake up the world to move away from nuclear energy and on to > cleaner more sustainable forms of energy In relation to those issues, it is interesting that several fairly high profile anti-nuc power advocates have changed their position due to the fact that the fears of nuc disaster havent been realized and their feeling is if an old outdated plant can take that kind of hit and not be a major frickdown, then maybe it's not as dangerous as they thought. Heard two people with that mind change on NPR. I myself have lost only one uncle to nuclear energy, my mom's brother was a pretty famous nuclear physisist who died of cancer from years of exposure in the old days, but with relatives in both the eastern and western Kentucky coal mines I am sure that body count is a lot higher, in the dozens if not hundreds, power always has a price, even seemingly clean hydro-electric power causes huge ecological impact from overbuilding of man made lakes. Heck lets just all unplug!!!! Andy O From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 14 11:54:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48892183449; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 11:54:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5R7hqtsXcPcNLuVwElPkF0iMNMDZJvHGAH6+aU5DJ9U=; b=SRYQkkSrRVQCX9CTjmb7FQi599sJXQCTJ610zdau719xVABvEoDQ5KfWyDLVBdewgi 3Xu6vh82DrOjs1GYW17Q0S48SlQzqHOPPr376Ma1HdMdWGKTq+ia1CRbXCX2Lypgc7Fv DxzRZHpWYogbWPf0/kLzrzhdZKtI0AK3Hrnn8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ngeDKrup2O5CGiZghhbn6YYtREGgvi4BdsY2fhQ4mhawrE2/NYqm7GoVcgE2zFe8QF jH1t88gHVJZdSFOXVTt9+KEHcVdyiMslHbFcXLDRi5RQ6AS/K1+8Wt+byxQgBoW6tm2Z G8AWpfnWTaViTeK01XYF1IwVIlEocPqhbYt00= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4CC60BAD-211C-4319-A4B1-68963E7C20FD@baymoon.com> <995EFC13-1714-414F-8825-1BD980D91355@glasswing.com> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 13:54:35 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d1B6I6sKiFjdmnXvdSpcs7p6ZCk Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Moog lap steel To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108956 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 11:54:57 +0000 (UTC) Yeah I second that... Jeez they filmed you for an ad Bill, they need to a pay you... Truly wonderful as usual . Ive mentioned on this list how I intend one day to own a Moog guitar, might have to put the wife on the street now... On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 5:10 AM, Art Simon wrote: > Bill, if they didn't give you one, let me know. I'll start a letter writi= ng > campaign. There would be no better way to showcase the modern lapsteel > guitar. > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:05 PM, richard sales > wrote: >> >> Well Bill... >> I'm sure they'd have given you one if they hadn't seen you banging on it >> towards the end !!! :) >> Nice stuff. =A0Really good! =A0They SHOULD give you one. >> R >> richard sales >> www.glasswing.com >> www.richardsales.com >> www.hayleysales.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Apr 13, 2011, at 2:29 PM, William Walker wrote: >> >> When I was in at NAMM in January =A0I was introduced to the A and R guy = for >> Moog who gave me a brief introduction to the new moog lap steel. =A0By >> coincidence I was due to be in Asheville NC,where Moog=A0is based,=A0for= a week >> =A0 in March with my wife Nancy =A0to care for her 86 year old mother wh= ile >> Nancy's sister was away, and I was invited to the factory to further che= ck >> out the new lap steel and shoot some video of it. I was accompanied by m= y >> new good friend and LD member Andy Owens, and we had a blast , visiting = the >> factory and meeting nearly everyone who worked there:-)and I had about a= n >> hour to check out the the instrument which they edited down in to this >> video. It is really another experience altogether the way this instrumen= t >> handles the infinite sustain thing, having owned an ebow forever and tri= ed >> various sustainer devices. This seems capable of the same kind of mayhem= , >> =A0but also =A0more control and subtlety as well. The most interesting t= hing for >> me was being able to sweep from one chord position to another without ha= ving >> to generate sustain by creating a physically driven vibrato by shaking t= he >> bar, or even striking the strings with my fingers. I might get some grie= f >> from Randy Jackson for being pitchy in places but I went in a sceptic an= d >> left wondering how I could get the money together to buy one. amazing. >> =A0Enjoy >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7HSmHE0OIrI >> Bill > > > > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > --=20 Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 14 12:48:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18825183486; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 12:48:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DA6ED10.5020806@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 05:48:16 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Moog lap steel References: <4CC60BAD-211C-4319-A4B1-68963E7C20FD@baymoon.com> In-Reply-To: <4CC60BAD-211C-4319-A4B1-68963E7C20FD@baymoon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108957 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 12:48:23 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, William Walker wrote: > When I was in at NAMM in January I was introduced to the A and R guy > for Moog who gave me a brief introduction to the new moog lap steel. > By coincidence I was due to be in Asheville NC,where Moog is > based, for a week in March with my wife Nancy to care for her 86 > year old mother while Nancy's sister was away, and I was invited to > the factory to further check out the new lap steel and shoot some > video of it. I was accompanied by my new good friend and LD member > Andy Owens, and we had a blast , visiting the factory and meeting > nearly everyone who worked there:-)and I had about an hour to check > out the the instrument which they edited down in to this video. It is > really another experience altogether the way this instrument handles > the infinite sustain thing, having owned an ebow forever and tried > various sustainer devices. This seems capable of the same kind of > mayhem, but also more control and subtlety as well. The most > interesting thing for me was being able to sweep from one chord > position to another without having to generate sustain by creating a > physically driven vibrato by shaking the bar, or even striking the > strings with my fingers. I might get some grief from Randy Jackson for > being pitchy in places but I went in a sceptic and left wondering how > I could get the money together to buy one. amazing. Enjoy > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HSmHE0OIrI Wow, Bill................this video is amazing. They should endorse you!!!!!!! Really impressive.........I've heard you play for almost 40 years and you never cease to amaze me. Wow!!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 14 16:28:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4052018349D; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 16:28:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=sfq9tLBbDon1GOqlszzIpNTumF3goCGJ/2zn1NYj7ow=; b=Al0sIxOFGQ+7U1F3gbfuGo0ipiUbS27HW0bMUC+6uUQrwszQFqurn7hCij8uRQK6I+ aNq6GLyjKLduEWyJgfCMpWyZlbxLJn+olPQQIw+HKqoAUX+1tq5Yuxy/vXQZF5cc0QnP v+gOBBD0DzpL50jpK/z2TZTXcN0GIenlXoR1Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=LyG28f3RB9w1rGrAJCFmApGtZr7v+YNj7ef2QExCSjqsaMaJrySgJLVlcxbrpwlu2y k5OcswvNyYIhYbVqnHS7ip08kB3Mn8zWyYS8JGddZa2ZapCUNip/5lAYIrzklHYdZQgi 4Yuf2JuILvmtD0MByhnpCQzc57VSvES4eBajo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 11:28:30 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Frisell and Digitech pds8000 (was: pigtronix echolution....) From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd2e44a74a43104a0e36abc Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108958 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 16:28:33 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd2e44a74a43104a0e36abc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6mwuQM5dYA at about 3:00 he starts talking about his effects... this is late 90s i think, he's using a rat, short delay (boss i think), pds8000, and lexicon 1/2 rack reverb (can't remember the name, is it lxp-5?) i believe it's the same setup he's using for "ghost town". the little loops he creates on that album sound very similar to what he does in this vid. i have watched this vid, WAY TOO MANY TIMES. it is most good i think the pds8000 was his replacement for his 80s EH16ddl. s--- --000e0cd2e44a74a43104a0e36abc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DW6mwuQM5dYA

at about 3:00 he s= tarts talking about his effects...

this is late 90s i think, he'= s using a rat, short delay (boss i think), pds8000, and lexicon 1/2 rack re= verb (can't remember the name, is it lxp-5?)
i believe it's the same setup he's using for "ghost town"= .

the little loops he creates on that album sound very similar to wh= at he does in this vid.

i have watched this vid, WAY TOO MANY TIMES.= it is most good

i think the pds8000 was his replacement for his 80s EH16ddl.

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--000e0cd2e44a74a43104a0e36abc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 14 16:58:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 096CA18349E; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 16:58:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 416635.72451.bm@omp1041.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1302800309; bh=O4ZDnmqjhyVgVlq8bx/iFi2nnxVROTpqRfyASzAr6Sk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CQx30RLRNZqKFmVDgWJ7jrRgjvTetn5vkUbPDs7S1InWHNH74bqVRUfo+D2oh9e/28yEheWtAoEK4JgyCK//StPBdk/y0bZFlbf3X8aYgNgXJSqABgMMAEoNBY3xzkMiRKvO53YIJZqn+mdC+NV5OiJiZ0zvsoeaLy+m6alAugo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mKqPqCmOO6qGV2Xylf44v08VGaAw3+17Njn3w9izTTqhhW25b2mFp++reUjTlLtyijG875XOJePZbKw6xypQw640HojH8Ay9zMvJB2SQsB/pUvhhyGuvPrm8Erej7GiLO/IUwjJ9IJ0yDUA5syfeELGGU3izjshpDQxCVaqDGPE=; Message-ID: <315281.22239.qm@web120720.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 7ff4nC0VM1lna0NHD0dANUHINWIRPBpeqz7s9mIhDrpj53c 4Ls7idg9b.xmYXs5y3.uGCd6bSxCz7YlXX8H54tEArRdCSN5oaXOCNNHB8do xfuMr5EOt2lXp2tytO3jhFeG3Nw9eyfiHZPiMJ97PAegQdO_lhd5JuuKQD8l rtUAtr.y5bsZOCdFAJHYBqcoJgoyBSaLs50KgV.Xd0aS5mN_3j01DHhcXHI6 lupky7lgsyN57.U82WCR4j3NfQVJckXpq3kqGl2OW6gip5z72ifMMDb1_DmS dvmlkaILVnbKiEAlesinQSRhkOLqBC1w5bvVRN.MGLwEYqSusW_38_7h5vpg xIHxVJByWmLm05dnIpZS7NqbKWY3f90u5Mg0mVdxLQuE1YqymrpItVQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 References: <123021.83983.qm@web120704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4DA674AD.5060605@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 09:58:29 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Re: our war on nature,when will it stop... (O.T.) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4DA674AD.5060605@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1753400396-1302800309=:22239" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108959 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 16:58:30 +0000 (UTC) --0-1753400396-1302800309=:22239 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii hey Rick, I am a poet warrior, I just do not want to push anybody else. Anything I can do speak up and talk back and encourage others to do the same. Consciousness is the key, many of us are not aware enough... Antony ________________________________ From: Rick Walker To: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thu, April 14, 2011 6:14:37 AM Subject: Re: Re: our war on nature,when will it stop... (O.T.) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: > faith and consciousness > > Antony Hequet I'm going to add to this by writing: *Faith, Consciousness and Activism * if you don't mind. I know a lot of well spirited, green oriented human beings who would never write their congressperson or attend a political rally. These things are not going to fix themselves. We are going to have to push for it and vote with our spending dollars and vote the people out of office who are complacent about these issues or who are in the pockets of big business. Just sayin' with respect, Anthony, Rick Walker --0-1753400396-1302800309=:22239 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
hey Rick,

I am a poet warrior, I just do not want to push anybody else. Anything I can do speak up and talk back and encourage others to do the same.

Consciousness is the key, many of us are not aware enough...

Antony

From: Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>
To: antonyhequet@yahoo.com
Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thu, April 14, 2011 6:14:37 AM
Subject: Re: Re: our war on nature,when will it stop... (O.T.)

On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote:
> faith and consciousness
>
> Antony Hequet

I'm going to add to this by writing:

*Faith, Consciousness and Activism *

if you don't mind.

I know a lot of well spirited, green oriented human beings who would never
write their congressperson or attend a political rally.

These things are not going to fix themselves.  We are going to have to
push for it and vote with our spending dollars and vote the people out of
office who are complacent about these issues or who are in the pockets
of big business.

Just sayin'

with respect,  Anthony,

Rick Walker

--0-1753400396-1302800309=:22239-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 14 17:03:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B1A6183486; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 17:03:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DA729DB.7020901@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 19:07:39 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Frisell and Digitech pds8000 (was: pigtronix echolution....) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <7o9bHB.A.CmB.ojypNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108960 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 17:03:37 +0000 (UTC) Scott Hansen wrote: > ...and lexicon 1/2 rack reverb (can't remember the name, is it lxp-5?) The LXP-1 was a single effect 9½" (halfrack) reverb/echo/chorus.. device (I have one); the LXP-5 was the same but could do two effects at a time. Still decent performers, and, for live use, having the benefit of an old fashioned dry/wet potentiometer, so effects like reverbs and big echoes can be dialed down to avoid mud at the dreaded concrete slab venues ;) -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 14 17:13:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF72118349D; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 17:13:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=O0wXPZHElyuJHmEzAQQO3WUQIRe4MZaVKo2ifBxVblw=; b=m6wq/uao0jt9RQ1QujRLLWuw2S1IVqm2Iulh9nRHlR7JDdDkkjC9NzlS8m8vSRdFhB XdcHPq3StqhpenwZ/UPjChvRURmisLtNfWMRRZPBAgbSOxp2gDZ+Avf/wmx4Bo8FrPQK KiDKEsgjVWHRlVADxzW2jO4ce3wpszC+Fjdic= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WnL15lE5EdIakDyxVuw3evczc3kz1Tkm2bbvDiCDWh2r9wwOJ/fwbRokJyvr0EiqNk WEop6UY6Ljoan3UkXnpK+GgfR9H7VSuiZk4ykbaQ1SzDuN0U8ThJ8htLHHiSa1WHIP3g 55wZpsv35yD3x1Pt1hCbV1R7PyNK476OZRhSI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DA729DB.7020901@post.cybercity.dk> References: <4DA729DB.7020901@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 19:13:20 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Frisell and Digitech pds8000 (was: pigtronix echolution....) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108961 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 17:13:22 +0000 (UTC) I still have my LXP-5 from those dark ages of hardware that saw me crawl out from under a murky rock... great sounding amb space effect! I still set up the same sounding environments in today's music software. Not much new in sound design. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 7:07 PM, van Sinn wrote= : > Scott Hansen wrote: >> >> ...and lexicon 1/2 rack reverb (can't remember the name, is it lxp-5?) > > The LXP-1 was a single effect 9=C2=BD" (halfrack) reverb/echo/chorus.. de= vice (I > have one); the LXP-5 was the same but could do two effects at a time. > Still decent performers, and, for live use, having the benefit of an old > fashioned dry/wet potentiometer, so effects like reverbs and big echoes c= an > be dialed down to avoid mud at the dreaded concrete slab venues ;) > > -- > rgds, > van Sinn > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 14 17:35:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1660018349F; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 17:35:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=IQ6XdAHm1K6wm/FLOZRVc99JThXeqX/cf/YkQoZXlwQ=; b=R/F3f2aqd+N65xhjNxTs4JlbGCe4HAju+84GmYP2Kz8AtJBhLsrZlxPfgIVL52bGY5 arqF0hAVhQXnfLkzrP87NGPaQxw/sbCuFcZ0T1oSXdq6QK5t8kiMwOoG+MaHOONn041O LYtvx7IBQi9A75FRQJ0zze3MO3Jsil/GxlL6k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=yHUA7IuyqIx8/cDfrGRzurOMBe3QYPpu6vih90xYf2EFuL56hWHIQcYp+dZMYMt/oD /XKe7OS6H/VpMSxMuowwE4UdjD+m+tV5d19bGaM9aZxvKca7e+Cw7yfHSg/5NLkt/k6c ay/S7BSkeUhZS17QLqgx7gqNyrpL0ezRsdIvE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DA6ED10.5020806@cruzio.com> References: <4CC60BAD-211C-4319-A4B1-68963E7C20FD@baymoon.com> <4DA6ED10.5020806@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 19:35:29 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Moog lap steel From: andy soto To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30207862f9b4ad04a0e4592a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108962 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 17:35:30 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30207862f9b4ad04a0e4592a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes, we should start a writing campaign!! Give Bill Walker a Moog lap steel!!! On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, William Walker wrote: > >> When I was in at NAMM in January I was introduced to the A and R guy for >> Moog who gave me a brief introduction to the new moog lap steel. By >> coincidence I was due to be in Asheville NC,where Moog is based, for a week >> in March with my wife Nancy to care for her 86 year old mother while >> Nancy's sister was away, and I was invited to the factory to further check >> out the new lap steel and shoot some video of it. I was accompanied by my >> new good friend and LD member Andy Owens, and we had a blast , visiting the >> factory and meeting nearly everyone who worked there:-)and I had about an >> hour to check out the the instrument which they edited down in to this >> video. It is really another experience altogether the way this instrument >> handles the infinite sustain thing, having owned an ebow forever and tried >> various sustainer devices. This seems capable of the same kind of mayhem, >> but also more control and subtlety as well. The most interesting thing for >> me was being able to sweep from one chord position to another without having >> to generate sustain by creating a physically driven vibrato by shaking the >> bar, or even striking the strings with my fingers. I might get some grief >> from Randy Jackson for being pitchy in places but I went in a sceptic and >> left wondering how I could get the money together to buy one. amazing. >> Enjoy >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HSmHE0OIrI >> > > Wow, Bill................this video is amazing. They should endorse > you!!!!!!! > > Really impressive.........I've heard you play for almost 40 years and you > never cease to amaze me. > > Wow!!!! > > > --20cf30207862f9b4ad04a0e4592a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0Yes, we should start a writing campaign!! Give Bill Walker a Moog lap st= eel!!!

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 2:48 PM, R= ick Walker <loo= ppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, William Walker wrote:
When I was in at NAMM in January =A0I was introduced to the A and R guy for= Moog who gave me a brief introduction to the new moog lap steel. =A0By coi= ncidence I was due to be in Asheville NC,where Moog is based, for a week = =A0 in March with my wife Nancy =A0to care for her 86 year old mother while= Nancy's sister was away, and I was invited to the factory to further c= heck out the new lap steel and shoot some video of it. I was accompanied by= my new good friend and LD member Andy Owens, and we had a blast , visiting= the factory and meeting nearly everyone who worked there:-)and I had about= an hour to check out the the instrument which they edited down in to this = video. It is really another experience altogether the way this instrument h= andles the infinite sustain thing, having owned an ebow forever and tried v= arious sustainer devices. This seems capable of the same kind of mayhem, = =A0but also =A0more control and subtlety as well. The most interesting thin= g for me was being able to sweep from one chord position to another without= having to generate sustain by creating a physically driven vibrato by shak= ing the bar, or even striking the strings with my fingers. I might get some= grief from Randy Jackson for being pitchy in places but I went in a scepti= c and left wondering how I could get the money together to buy one. amazing= . =A0Enjoy
= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7HSmHE0OIrI

Wow, Bill................this video is amazing. =A0 =A0 =A0 They should end= orse you!!!!!!!

Really impressive.........I've heard you play for almost 40 years and y= ou never cease to amaze me.

Wow!!!!



--20cf30207862f9b4ad04a0e4592a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 14 18:56:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D791183456; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 18:56:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=helpwantedproductions.com; h= message-id:date:subject:from:to:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=helpwantedproductions.com; b=MJZ7xKWZ+OoUDPWTMIiaHR+7UJ30wlX9Su21j1SckpOjdmDdXPYLV4qkJeJiw BETCQjKEPSjhQ6xW7ggw64e8niGwlI9fd0OQQFA9IYnsgRqwN9ixsVFmLX7PeIBa uh3Yj04LCQ+FbfElyriTkGJsIZINex98LOjVxyXMP/Ypao= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=helpwantedproductions.com; h=message-id:date:subject:from:to:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding; s=helpwantedproductions.com; bh=BbFYR 9K6yklevc1eVK8jQJ8RrhE=; b=aVrwcZ/KbLOeE2OBgstvszbshG8jAbW7TN9cM viicqMawg/b6PqybZMFt6q3Pw9KLhMD1+gAKZ+BrIpN0CTNoPZmTeGhnqrMx5PV4 De0xw3e18A9/KyVsUBKQzdMwq8tEUn9Upwu3vkvtReV0KkaT/7aJNPLSlgZzaj5d /BLST0= Message-ID: <1241c23f9f69a1986f882f401ad1b3fa.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 11:55:59 -0700 Subject: Acid mother's Temple From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: "Loopers Delight" , "AH" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108963 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 18:56:00 +0000 (UTC) just a quickie: AMT is touring the US as a four piece and they are white hot. I've seen them before quite a few times and last night blew me away.= =20 Amazing energy and the 30+ minute version of Pink Lady Lemonade could not have been a minute shorter. They just get better and better. For loopers there is a decent amount of vocal and instrument looping whic= h works well with their overall context of blasted out space rock. For analog synth nuts their is the most use out of a single simple 1970s mono synth that you will see onstage. For those that just like dynamic beauty and cosmic noise , well they bring the goods... Tour is in us and Canada now on east coast. If you're at all curious I=20 highly recommend going . --=20 --------------------------------------- NEW DAED SITE!! - Http://DaedSound.com DAED: Circuit Bent and Unusual Sound Devices "Making Something Extrodinary from the Ordinary" Music and More at the Mothership: Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 14 21:08:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28EDC18349E; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 21:08:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DA76260.4040806@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 17:08:48 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_BQua.A.p1G.lJ2pNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108964 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 21:08:53 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on Ombient. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "The Wheel Turns" which is a self-released title. For details, See the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#apr You will also hear music by artists playing at The Soundscapes Concert Series and The Gatherings. Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org/listen on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 14 23:18:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D083218349F; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 23:18:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FBcOZ/AXYbQaSaBKyOJ3gRfmDEouZfe9VPh6x1pGo84=; b=tEVQs4V/bApex6efefhTI2peXhIC6Rk/ph+gy06LyCjnI4RTBTOFgqjmC63afmxina y0rh7Yu6NVCGffN15q4titvj3HUXAyZmlGN5uemdtV8cXjdXT2NLLYbSmSkbMxbfHHQl f5NHNkbwUTv69IJD6VwopV4N0pJdjjzd7KIYU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=jnDpQPijka8cpVbIAR6oYejXhM4zl9+n56iqoxcBmbrqODPgXP+RTDXUkCKwELeT+I ImRRavW00bdUu0NnXw1fl5BnpuLqkfU6UyJgdLshByhvFs2tUoCJwe3xQgohhUXdxUcd ycdDdiEz83IWlQgc/SE7zTCweYOJqwZK4cPrc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <226839.29395.qm@web112003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <226839.29395.qm@web112003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 01:18:17 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: our war on nature,when will it stop... (O.T.) From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108965 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 23:18:21 +0000 (UTC) yes thats it,we think we do great until nature knocks on the door The guys at Chernobyl though they were doing fine as well,but we forget too easy mother nature has never declared wars on us,it just remind us what it wont negotiate with;-) peace Luis On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 9:16 AM, John Tidwell wrote: > Considering that Japan's nuclear plants were running fine until a massive earthquake & tsunami, I would think the question should be.... > > Nature's war on us, when will it stop? > > > John > > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 15 00:22:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45ABE18349F; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 00:22:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Telus-Outbound-IP: 154.5.117.228 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=ElJBjKuQT9b1ppeWeQ/6K/jnhC0NHng8VFm/Oxwgxks= c=1 sm=2 a=agWTFdhlyG4A:10 a=kZCaSYHnAAAA:8 a=AmuB-pcYAAAA:8 a=x9LQtntrAAAA:8 a=c9eTbBAgAAAA:8 a=oTtuw1C_AAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=rvKn0qaBgyRkG4-UaNUA:9 a=rGAta-Jq0us-Rwoc20sA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=9dKDUTTeGJsA:10 a=4g1Un4FPLDYA:10 a=k9XOtJXmrMMA:10 a=ePqU_3ItVtgA:10 a=pQ2a0EFxmsAA:10 a=n36No3bcwFRkONzTQ7EA:9 a=n_Wel3U_oleiMcP8oBwA:7 From: richard sales Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8-249713374 Subject: Re: OT: Moog lap steel Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 17:22:24 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4CC60BAD-211C-4319-A4B1-68963E7C20FD@baymoon.com> <4DA6ED10.5020806@cruzio.com> Message-Id: <19865190-C2FC-482C-B191-AB412E940792@glasswing.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108966 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 00:22:27 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-8-249713374 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sign me up! richard sales www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.reverbnation.com/richardsalestreefrogorchestra On Apr 14, 2011, at 10:35 AM, andy soto wrote: > Yes, we should start a writing campaign!! Give Bill Walker a Moog lap = steel!!! >=20 > On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Rick Walker = wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, William Walker wrote: > When I was in at NAMM in January I was introduced to the A and R guy = for Moog who gave me a brief introduction to the new moog lap steel. By = coincidence I was due to be in Asheville NC,where Moog is based, for a = week in March with my wife Nancy to care for her 86 year old mother = while Nancy's sister was away, and I was invited to the factory to = further check out the new lap steel and shoot some video of it. I was = accompanied by my new good friend and LD member Andy Owens, and we had a = blast , visiting the factory and meeting nearly everyone who worked = there:-)and I had about an hour to check out the the instrument which = they edited down in to this video. It is really another experience = altogether the way this instrument handles the infinite sustain thing, = having owned an ebow forever and tried various sustainer devices. This = seems capable of the same kind of mayhem, but also more control and = subtlety as well. The most interesting thing for me was being able to = sweep from one chord position to another without having to generate = sustain by creating a physically driven vibrato by shaking the bar, or = even striking the strings with my fingers. I might get some grief from = Randy Jackson for being pitchy in places but I went in a sceptic and = left wondering how I could get the money together to buy one. amazing. = Enjoy > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7HSmHE0OIrI >=20 > Wow, Bill................this video is amazing. They should = endorse you!!!!!!! >=20 > Really impressive.........I've heard you play for almost 40 years and = you never cease to amaze me. >=20 > Wow!!!! >=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-8-249713374 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Sign = me up!


On Apr 14, 2011, at 10:35 AM, andy soto wrote:

 Yes, = we should start a writing campaign!! Give Bill Walker a Moog lap = steel!!!

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 2:48 = PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> = wrote:
On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, William Walker wrote:
When I was in at NAMM in January  I was introduced to the A and R = guy for Moog who gave me a brief introduction to the new moog lap steel. =  By coincidence I was due to be in Asheville NC,where Moog is = based, for a week   in March with my wife Nancy  to care for = her 86 year old mother while Nancy's sister was away, and I was invited = to the factory to further check out the new lap steel and shoot some = video of it. I was accompanied by my new good friend and LD member Andy = Owens, and we had a blast , visiting the factory and meeting nearly = everyone who worked there:-)and I had about an hour to check out the the = instrument which they edited down in to this video. It is really another = experience altogether the way this instrument handles the infinite = sustain thing, having owned an ebow forever and tried various sustainer = devices. This seems capable of the same kind of mayhem,  but also =  more control and subtlety as well. The most interesting thing for = me was being able to sweep from one chord position to another without = having to generate sustain by creating a physically driven vibrato by = shaking the bar, or even striking the strings with my fingers. I might = get some grief from Randy Jackson for being pitchy in places but I went = in a sceptic and left wondering how I could get the money together to = buy one. amazing.  Enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7HSmHE0OIrI

Wow, Bill................this video is amazing.       = They should endorse you!!!!!!!

Really impressive.........I've heard you play for almost 40 years and = you never cease to amaze me.

Wow!!!!




= --Apple-Mail-8-249713374-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 15 15:06:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC7DF18349F; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 15:06:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WW1G53FU8O35jFNlJAd6crip07RhYEKN/MCk3iu/Uqc=; b=PaC2qEI0sfQ5pkcanwaA0+SE4nhq8zW+RAGNueaD35ZNQcyWaIa2AdTf41x0lvs3R5 OK1AXEzkLZs8Y2p6czusnOIWxQ8bRrf/JVLmx41+cyaWZo9b/JhhNfehBpaiRs2n1rD7 DHpJfY/m//K5bIayEAWkMIdlLF5zqIKvw7pqM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=p1akLQLDOqeYlU9NWPZ1aoQL+GHrrr3NE3oaRedCyaB99NRnU9iqVv64GKjeQ6zFe8 8WdfcuJd2jw9GSJ7jxwLmXcMr1UF5ViFGbVpSekprfxg226QwJFFLs7d+8Wb76y9zx7O On1/yUxYZnzAYPKUMIjsuCf+crSU4FqMQc7TQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <226839.29395.qm@web112003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 11:06:11 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: our war on nature,when will it stop... (O.T.) From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a697e46e8704a0f66146 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108967 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 15:06:14 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a697e46e8704a0f66146 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's a bit dark but along these lines Louie and I guess the fact we discuss the enumerable one day reality is a good thing for our own sense of humanit= y but years ago I was on my only trip to Europe which was the UK. I was in England and Scotland, was staying with a B&B in Inverness and chatting with the host about the then plight of polution/other in our world (had been a big theme in that year's presidential race with Dukakis and whoever else in the pre Bush years). He commented that it was not mother nature that had the problem, mother nature would take care of itself it was us that had to worry. Simplistic but true. Jim On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > yes thats it,we think we do great until nature knocks on the door > The guys at Chernobyl though they were doing fine as well,but we forget t= oo > easy > mother nature has never declared wars on us,it just remind us what it > wont negotiate with;-) > peace > Luis > > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 9:16 AM, John Tidwell wrote: > > Considering that Japan's nuclear plants were running fine until a massi= ve > earthquake & tsunami, I would think the question should be.... > > > > Nature's war on us, when will it stop? > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > -- > www.luis-angulo.com > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf3054a697e46e8704a0f66146 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's a bit dark but along these lines Louie and I guess the fact we dis= cuss the enumerable one day reality is a good thing for our own sense of hu= manity but years ago I was on my only trip to Europe which was the UK.=A0 I= was in England and Scotland, was staying with a B&B in Inverness and c= hatting with the host about the then plight of polution/other in our world = (had been a big theme in that year's presidential race with Dukakis and= whoever else in the pre Bush years).=A0 He commented that it was not mothe= r nature that had the problem, mother nature would take care of itself it w= as us that had to worry.=A0 Simplistic but true.

Jim

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 7:18 PM, = Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
yes thats it,we think we do great until nature knocks on the door
The guys at Chernobyl though they were doing fine as well,but we forget too= easy
mother nature has never declared wars on us,it just remind us what it
wont negotiate with;-)
peace
Luis


On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 9:16 AM, John Tidwell <wedgehed@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Considering that Japan's nuclear plants were running fine until a = massive earthquake & tsunami, I would think the question should be....<= br> >
> Nature's war on us, when will it stop?
>
>
> John
>
>



--
www.luis-angulo.co= m




--
From Brooklyn= To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter= Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF Interna= tional.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--20cf3054a697e46e8704a0f66146-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 15 15:15:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F5A018349E; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 15:15:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kjGKrMfTiSuXaj4Z3Q+SyeDe2PVfGWINBz9nu+QhqcE=; b=uPn5lGY+vRWiOygzaZT1RS6zDLjD9LcErwhkVdjz/sKzq0/xr9m8gJBwUr2jyUIFQR o3oPEgNG/ZwiMNRozp8R7/6nqvVy1ybGxkAxuOj5NC0hWbMk6U7GXoS3zIycIE1haWLN B7H7q5Z8UnTuJyRfumE/oxbbikUW52cVWNqpA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ccXvPu0iKOJk8IrT1/+SLVKO+0UdrCX+0tAghs1xNd9neMFXoh9HbLesuKziEBa/GR xkp8r4CWMmut71JRf68bS49oD4AFfE/cg8E4uuq0Yu8+c0vYEFKgWNTm+SSXRwagvvTK 62z4NyMDOZ6HhrksOSPKLadTTRWW6/w/H8B9Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <226839.29395.qm@web112003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 08:15:01 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: our war on nature,when will it stop... (O.T.) From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108968 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 15:15:02 +0000 (UTC) How about this to balance a bit of the equation? http://www.newsday.co.zw/article/2011-04-15-bolivia-enshrines-natural-world= s-rights-with-equal-status-for-mother-earth Kevin --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 15 16:52:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 432F4183486; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 16:52:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_b4ede08f-31c7-41b5-bcbe-c191ad9683eb_" X-Originating-IP: [86.138.39.242] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: well ableton live is pretty cool, isn't it! Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 16:52:43 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Apr 2011 16:52:43.0452 (UTC) FILETIME=[8A01B7C0:01CBFB8D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108969 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 16:52:44 +0000 (UTC) --_b4ede08f-31c7-41b5-bcbe-c191ad9683eb_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm with you Simeon. I'm a big fan of Ableton too especially with Max for l= ive - that really explodes the possibilities available. Shame about the co= lck issues though. Have you emailed them with your problem? Peace G Gareth@Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ Date: Tue=2C 12 Apr 2011 14:43:52 +0100 Subject: well ableton live is pretty cool=2C isn't it! From: simeonharris40@googlemail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com hello=2C my name is simeon and i'm a mobius user.... tried hosting in mainstage 2...ugh...terrible cpu usage...crippled my whole= machine tried bidule...wonderful bit of software=2C but had some issues with cpu an= d memory and boy=2C it's just so ugly now i'm using ableton - stable=2C pretty to look at and good with cpu! downside - rubbish with incoming clock. had to ditch nearly all the third p= arty plugins i was using and make new effects using ableton's own ones. upside - clips! wow! terrific - i can send midi controller data to filters = and loop it in sync=2C or send midi commands to mobius (shuffle track two e= very 4 bars while overdubbing on track three=2C anybody?!). oh and fire off= a drum loop or two... :) hoorah! now to finish recording my album and stop messing about with all this softw= are...! s = --_b4ede08f-31c7-41b5-bcbe-c191ad9683eb_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm with you Simeon. I'm a big fan of Ableton too especially with Max for l= ive =3B - that really explodes the possibilities available. Shame about= the colck issues though. Have you emailed them with your problem?

P= eace


G

Gareth@Sentientfx - =3B Innovative music plugi= ns. http://sentientfx.= com/



Date: Tue=2C 12 Apr 2011 14= :43:52 +0100
Subject: well ableton live is pretty cool=2C isn't it!
F= rom: simeonharris40@googlemail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.c= om

hello=2C my name is simeon and i'm a mobius user....

tried hosting in mainstage 2...ugh...terrible cpu usage...crippled m= y whole machine

tried bidule...wonderful bit of so= ftware=2C but had some issues with cpu and memory and boy=2C it's just so u= gly

now i'm using ableton - stable=2C pretty to look at and= good with cpu!

downside - rubbish with incoming c= lock. had to ditch nearly all the third party plugins i was using and make = new effects using ableton's own ones.

upside - clips! wow! terrific - i can send midi control= ler data to filters and loop it in sync=2C or send midi commands to mobius = (shuffle track two every 4 bars while overdubbing on track three=2C anybody= ?!). oh and fire off a drum loop or two... :)

hoorah!

now to finish recordin= g my album and stop messing about with all this software...!

=
s =3B
= --_b4ede08f-31c7-41b5-bcbe-c191ad9683eb_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 15 16:53:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92FCA18349C; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 16:53:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=i7zjo2KiuAEG13j+Gna9PL1xsIbxXC5CiUEa/GhFUM4=; b=RkcPPsWmuGaM1iHX2MDre8k/aE6CjSYbPR278anMTBraEzHKOqVI95okNt7ko0zEXe 5ztIkji2xU3Jp8ObnftYcNb1PQ4kc9P2+rjy2dMMGt/piauPhYl6ZlYQc4teIImtTpxh qCgGgAfpjeyFjfLF6sSu4RMi2hyH1uk4A/9FE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ZKJNQ82GOuh0pZYE/G6/SgT1xZufhtByZwWjv7wM+2kqluwxFsNgejZoIn1G9QSfD9 8jN4cythGA1AHjxnH0rad92kwKLLi9ZVsoc64UeWlXd+FdOlck4aJyIJOx1CAMuznCpl iA8bjZ5fUs49W+K3A/meNgI78lwLHg8x+CT+4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 11:53:15 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Frisell and Digitech pds8000 (was: pigtronix echolution....) From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd32e5ecd950104a0f7e049 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108970 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 16:53:17 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd32e5ecd950104a0f7e049 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i just put the ghost town disc in my car last night and looked at the credits. it said that his gear for the album was: eh16ddl & lexicon LXP1 plus various guitars (he was still using his klein electric at this pt too), bass, some fender amp, etc.... so i stand corrected if i printed wrong gear in my previous email for that album.... s--- --000e0cd32e5ecd950104a0f7e049 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i just put the ghost town disc in my car last night and looked at the credi= ts.
it said that his gear for the album was:

eh16ddl & lexico= n LXP1

plus various guitars (he was still using his klein electric a= t this pt too), bass, some fender amp, etc....

so i stand corrected if i printed wrong gear in my previous email for t= hat album....
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--000e0cd32e5ecd950104a0f7e049-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 15 19:11:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0EB0618349F; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 19:10:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=VHIfkl2AdHBpkQKSb46v5j8OK2haFqC44AmP+XumYROCsh1xFoAAHs9x6ijk8WRe; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <5089695.1302884510950.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 09:21:50 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Frisell and Digitech pds8000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd482424121907db962c59c74d90a4aab5543b5efdd33357ec02350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.44 Resent-Message-ID: <3bx_E.A.5xG.DhJqNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108971 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 19:10:59 +0000 (UTC) apropo of nothing-i lov that record-never far from my player. also i still have my EH16secDDL and my PDS8000-still going strong.  when engaged wackiness ensues
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From: Scott Hansen
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Subject: Re: Frisell and Digitech pds8000 (was: pigtronix echolution....)

i just put the ghost town disc in my car last night and looked at the credits.
it said that his gear for the album was:

eh16ddl & lexicon LXP1

plus various guitars (he was still using his klein electric at this pt too), bass, some fender amp, etc....

so i stand corrected if i printed wrong gear in my previous email for that album....
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 15 20:22:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F6C718349D; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 20:22:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1302898962; bh=kApA1k4yZ3Yt06RpLx+iA1iaD3SuQvtE2SWV4ZJhJOs=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=jd10r4GjzXcuJcKDFkWnzPTOv0fTjSBQpk6KHn8WTIuaAnjCoYMfuY8socBDoLv4bjvucddTpjBo03WfBLw5qsrWyzpLzyuFJlCfLD0jr8XktFOivmDl0Ex2yb4StWaGgYbEyYSGW2R3L9MR/YBpZW9RnHc2e/lI1c4rRS805s0= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 148835.24425.bm@smtp146.mail.ukl.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-SMTP: 75CdczOswBChen.W3AbLhaW8TlC96TVo5w-- X-YMail-OSG: MtPDkggVM1nmrUTc6TnAgh.ZhebVmO6luzyoVSLSa8qjlg2 0c5CRvhFE X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <605A63D6DE144F87A4D4312848D98433@PC576340162804> From: "Ruelle Benoit" To: References: <71176DA8-0E74-42C2-B8A1-DD646C46D40A@baymoon.com> Subject: Re: new loop strategy Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 22:22:39 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6090 Resent-Message-ID: <0wn5HD.A.dq.TkKqNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108972 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 20:22:44 +0000 (UTC) Wow really nice.. I diddn't understand all the explanation but I really liked the music ;-) After all that's why we are here, no? Thanks for sharing. Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Walker" To: Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 4:30 AM Subject: Re: new loop strategy > Hey Andy B et all, > The way I built that track now that i analyze it, actually didn't > use the first set of long scripts for creating forms out of > individual tracks, but it did use the group select scripts, though I > built my tracks in the following flow. > I first created a master track on track 1 but with out any content, in > essence a blank loop that i recorded just prior to beginning the > improv. Then after a bit of introductory melodic playing I started to > record using a quantize replace preset set to a factor of 16, until I > built up a percolating sus 2 chord sequence as my I chord, and > proceeded to play thematically over that, as I armed track 2 by > pressing a play/stop preset ( arming sets the track to the same > length as the master track), at which point I started to recorded > another sus 2 chord a perfect fourth above the original I chord on my > new track, Using the same kind of quantize technique. As soon as I > had enough of a percolating quantized IV chord going i stopped that > track again allowing the original I chord to play unaccompanied. I > moved on to track 3 created a V chord, and then track 4 was my IV > chord track repeating the same procedure as above, and finally on > track 5 i recorded a rhythm part that would play no matter which of > the other tracks I chose, because as I stated before, tracks 5-8 are > included on each of my 4 groups. Then I started playing with the form > using the group buttons to switch chord was my tonal center. In the > building of each track i obeyed the rules of not making the chord too > complex leaving more room for my melody playing to fill in the > extensions. I tend to avoid stating the 3rd of a given chord when > developing these kinds of loops to give myself some leeway to > modulate hence the G sus 2 tuning i was using. When I try to explain > a strategy like this i always feel like I'm leaving some detail out > that will leave people scratching their heads, which is why I get > frustrated sometimes trying to explain this stuff:-) > Thanks for the feedback and kind words > Bill > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 15 20:44:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57A681834A2; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 20:44:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DA8AF29.9060903@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 22:48:41 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight Subject: Booting OSX into live profile Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108973 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 20:44:07 +0000 (UTC) Being a home musician, and as such not needing/wanting real amps/cabs, and thus using convolution/IR's, I'm thinking why not simply add a Mac Mini plus my Fireface400 to my combined guitar/bass rig, and have it boot straight into a a profile setup for live usage. The reason being that I often just wanna play a Bit, and as such would prefer not having to have a montor attached, log in, click to setup... In other words, I'd want to be able to turn on the rig, and have OSX boot into a default live profile. When wanting to actually do DAW works, I'd log in and terminate the live profile (preferably have the login mechanism do this). I'm not familiar with the various live packages, like Ableton Live. Anyone done this sort of setup? Then please elaborate.. ;) -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 15 20:45:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 087541834A3; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 20:45:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=PyeivnYZjlxXHEysx1ULf6JdKI1OPzUbex8TdMIwgHI=; b=HXSU2I39IwnGw1lHfqvKm52FCrp1wuJYi0rZpFYKuHwivE4yHR4CMuYG/8tA5LnxE/ YttrNeB9O+RBSG+bh1nxMSSwPjaeEeVYAKThLikQ3YSk7+yIecEDWaZUT7edVdQnOFDE SYDmbTLkE6ldnw7gc/Z7iwl63NuQV0F8eQ71E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=K0M38BP8xLPwXJ2oWngvHd7wamO1e9YXYGAtkPhR6Idb6cdp/JaruUe+BK90qcFMgL d+XVDMORCwZHOaCDKujGvYBwliizWux8wBbZa1v33tASSdbRp6+sZ/3xQ6YnPVruxqw3 oRiHkL4EGut4zoQdwA8VAiraLDvENQla+3xkw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DA8AF29.9060903@post.cybercity.dk> References: <4DA8AF29.9060903@post.cybercity.dk> From: todd reynolds Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 16:45:27 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Booting OSX into live profile To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c1ab85e5e6e04a0fb202e Resent-Message-ID: <1V5YvD.A.3XB.85KqNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108974 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 20:45:48 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c1ab85e5e6e04a0fb202e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable you know who does this completely commando? Owen Pallett, though with Max/MSP. See his article on http://cycling74.com I can't see any reason why it wouldn't work with Live similarly. T. On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 4:48 PM, van Sinn wrote= : > Being a home musician, and as such not needing/wanting real amps/cabs, an= d > thus using convolution/IR's, I'm thinking why not simply add a Mac Mini p= lus > my Fireface400 to my combined guitar/bass rig, and have it boot straight > into a a profile setup for live usage. > > The reason being that I often just wanna play a Bit, and as such would > prefer not having to have a montor attached, log in, click to setup... > In other words, I'd want to be able to turn on the rig, and have OSX boot > into a default live profile. > When wanting to actually do DAW works, I'd log in and terminate the live > profile (preferably have the login mechanism do this). > > I'm not familiar with the various live packages, like Ableton Live. > Anyone done this sort of setup? Then please elaborate.. ;) > > > -- > rgds, > van Sinn > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 Outerborough, my debut double CD set is now available on iTunes, and street date is set for March 29th. You can check out the INNOVA Recordings Artist Page here: http://innova.mu/artist1.asp?skuID=3D449 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --0015174c1ab85e5e6e04a0fb202e Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable you know who does this completely commando? =A0Owen Pallett, though with Ma= x/MSP. =A0See his article on http://cyclin= g74.com=A0

I can't see any reason why it wouldn&= #39;t work with Live similarly. =A0

T.



On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 4:48 PM, van Sinn <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk>= wrote:
Being a home musician, and as such not need= ing/wanting real amps/cabs, and thus using convolution/IR's, I'm th= inking why not simply add a Mac Mini plus my Fireface400 to my combined gui= tar/bass rig, and have it boot straight into a a profile setup for live usa= ge.

The reason being that I often just wanna play a Bit, and as such would pref= er not having to have a montor attached, log in, click to setup...
In other words, I'd want to be able to turn on the rig, and have OSX bo= ot into a default live profile.
When wanting to actually do DAW works, I'd log in and terminate the liv= e profile (preferably have the login mechanism do this).

I'm not familiar with the various live packages, like Ableton Live.
Anyone done this sort of setup? =A0Then please elaborate.. ;)


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rgds,
van Sinn




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=95 Outerborough, my debut double CD set is now avail= able on iTunes, and street date is set for March 29th. You can check out th= e INNOVA Recordings Artist Page here:

--0015174c1ab85e5e6e04a0fb202e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 15 20:58:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1CF3F1834A1; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 20:58:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=gntwp/qypyQleR8UgX+tw9EvVUv807NQEFBOf/jHVfs=; b=qtLZC5iCAWiR/RENcilbKRWmR/YpScGFrcM9764FOHlS7SSVIpamH7ZPvA6qxlR3du wgzPjbpY3fcwlsylf2EDuLgFvNAEwXnO8OIlKGflIGd8zSLYXpNb9ovMzbwVAKJG0MF4 O2i88T4FNTS8pW46cFIWc71yrC2/p7ZNdnlqQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=VUBeX5z4mYCMzpZ9/EU7KFWqpGzAH+KCMrTVr39cgWzFP73ACGI5+raTSy6BuhzfGF 5KB0ZJ4THDnYBlpVBK7xZBhNwqz1tGIkO2Ocu0DDws99mj1BBnTcTY3/pmEzl9AyOU/F 9ed10KV0i6AL/x4bKWSoloBx2hct1IuY8Zpuw= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Booting OSX into live profile From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: <4DA8AF29.9060903@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 16:58:22 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <72CF738F-3E28-4B7B-8993-6A9F8B80E270@gmail.com> References: <4DA8AF29.9060903@post.cybercity.dk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <_IvUVD.A.wuB.xFLqNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108975 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 20:58:26 +0000 (UTC) I haven't tried this yet myself but here's some tips that I've found = doing some research after I read that Owen Pallett article on Cycling's = site. To get started in OSX just right click the icon in the Dock of your = software of choice, then choose 'Options' and 'Open at Login' . Then I = would setup the default Live set to be the one you would use for live = performance. The Automator application that comes with OSX might help as = well if you need to make a script to do the actions you need to get the = job done. I think it should work. Todd Mathews On Apr 15, 2011, at 4:48 PM, van Sinn wrote: > Being a home musician, and as such not needing/wanting real amps/cabs, = and thus using convolution/IR's, I'm thinking why not simply add a Mac = Mini plus my Fireface400 to my combined guitar/bass rig, and have it = boot straight into a a profile setup for live usage. >=20 > The reason being that I often just wanna play a Bit, and as such would = prefer not having to have a montor attached, log in, click to setup... > In other words, I'd want to be able to turn on the rig, and have OSX = boot into a default live profile. > When wanting to actually do DAW works, I'd log in and terminate the = live profile (preferably have the login mechanism do this). >=20 > I'm not familiar with the various live packages, like Ableton Live. > Anyone done this sort of setup? Then please elaborate.. ;) >=20 >=20 > --=20 > rgds, > van Sinn >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 15 21:13:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC89518349C; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 21:13:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=yri7z4emB0tc3P2XPF9n1k1J7KYk78foc5TV5tpXhKY=; b=TDyYl/F+4DP51oC8cs0SFR2lqHWHSTi9UJl8nLFbjx4bT4t9YAhyS6HKZlTGUOPHTm rqAzWdX/OPECc/3pbZiQHjROIDrIpaLftVkB9SPOpyEY7b+riO2A56aNDvUQ92f/3z0r ZWjikcL4yiqRnzvqXdOocHh3zS7zNTkeToiAA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=C+/1h8uOsDfnEgEkCoDUm279kVbqrur7Tm+fNtoB/GjniVxPa6Na+Fl5kmxKJXwSvW Ho5zze1jJ2mYAlDi+EmitlUE9IfqDybHDSkOMg67pK6ul126TPalYtJnTVUBvTqyGw0i SzrXm/1tW6Tmh1/+DoXrDDyr601A+l2kCqXqA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DA8AF29.9060903@post.cybercity.dk> References: <4DA8AF29.9060903@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 23:13:06 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Booting OSX into live profile From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108976 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 21:13:08 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 10:48 PM, van Sinn wrote: > my combined guitar/bass rig, and have it boot straight into a a profile > setup for live usage. /// > I'm not familiar with the various live packages, like Ableton Live. Don't bother with a full DAW like Live, that's just overkill. You simply need one application to transfer the box into a guitar rig. I would suggest AmpliTube 3.5 in standalone mode. Set it up with a MIDI floorboard for stomp boxes, rack effects and tap tempo. For the rest, follow Todd Matthiews' hints. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 16 03:06:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3D6F1834A7; Sat, 16 Apr 2011 03:06:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DA907BD.2060001@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 23:06:37 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #732 for April 14, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108977 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 03:06:42 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/110414.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #732 April 14, 2011. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Ombient. The Featured CD at Midnight was "The Wheel Turns" which is self-released. I also played music by artists who will be playing upcoming area concerts at The Gathering and at the Soundscapes Concert Series. See details at the events page. Ombient: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#apr Events: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/events.html PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Jeffrey Koepper Synchronous Radiate (Ricochet Dream) Vic Hennegan I Walk Alone Desert God (Space for Music) M. Peck A Cognitive Chaos Glacial (Gears of Sand) Mystified 21, 22, 23 Tribute to Forbidden Planet (Roil Noise) Markus Reuter and Of Praise and The Sun Is Just the Sun, But Zero Ohms Motionless Skies the Stars They Call the Heavens (DiNDDL) Sensitive Chaos Meditation Meditation Modulation Modulation Manipulation (Ping Things) Manipulation 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Ombient The Wheel Turns The Wheel Turns (none) Ombient And Despair The Wheel Turns (none) Ombient Enshroud The Wheel Turns (none) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Ombient. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Rite of Passage" which is a self-released title. Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 16 04:47:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F0C01834A5; Sat, 16 Apr 2011 04:47:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date :references; bh=3mzivfYFQ1F5z2OFmlLmvTFtwH1O75KKzldLzKJalWI=; b=qYW2K8rj4weYV5m3+BGhH2O+RrNVFVNtYibZvQURXSAprRSdAAoSaBIbkWunp4Hf/G Kvgf1J5D6/oO8kyLKLuWlQGQvPHZG7904pInykuQIniaByE8L17dhBzdB8yq/XH1C5CG Vff0ESavL2ABBeNnT6JQCFjOhyBteNvzNIobM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date :references; b=D0QEkvsTV4TjuJqc/gJ94mJfG6jUIHstehoFRN7QzRU/qqzg6ZAXWMNCTQUWUB8NJO L2mXvz3PtvIBhP9BjigdxribET3y9ZdntbOfql15EbyD1wKqljxedZkQnTSfQC3m+IEz c7QR9NTlPDCxGkgEs98xaZNvJqLTJ0ziZwVhk= Message-Id: From: Eric James Dearatanha To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: <4DA8AF29.9060903@post.cybercity.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPad Mail (7B500) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPad Mail 7B500) Subject: Re: Booting OSX into live profile Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 21:47:24 -0700 References: <4DA8AF29.9060903@post.cybercity.dk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108978 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 04:47:11 +0000 (UTC) Hey vin, I actually have a similar setup in my rack... The Mac mini booting to = live. So fun huh?=20 If you want to monitor i suggest mimo 7in USB powered monitors to have = on hand incase you need emergency repatching... They have a touch screen = version that works pretty well... You could definitely manage. But i = keep one of the Bluetooth trackpads handy as they are much faster to = work with. Both can easily stow away in back of rack invisibly. There are awesome elastic advantages to having the Mac mini with = different vst and au in a program like live or main stage. But for raw = CPU efficiency Per is right about stand alone units. You can also use = iPad/iPhone to control your midi gear with touch osc and a combination = of other things ( I use osculator as the osc midi translator, then midi = patch bay program to route osculator to the hardware ) so many fun = possibilities.. Hope this helps... Eric mogli Sent from my iPad On Apr 15, 2011, at 1:48 PM, van Sinn wrote: > Being a home musician, and as such not needing/wanting real amps/cabs, = and thus using convolution/IR's, I'm thinking why not simply add a Mac = Mini plus my Fireface400 to my combined guitar/bass rig, and have it = boot straight into a a profile setup for live usage. >=20 > The reason being that I often just wanna play a Bit, and as such would = prefer not having to have a montor attached, log in, click to setup... > In other words, I'd want to be able to turn on the rig, and have OSX = boot into a default live profile. > When wanting to actually do DAW works, I'd log in and terminate the = live profile (preferably have the login mechanism do this). >=20 > I'm not familiar with the various live packages, like Ableton Live. > Anyone done this sort of setup? Then please elaborate.. ;) >=20 >=20 > --=20 > rgds, > van Sinn >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 16 07:46:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD85B1834A0; Sat, 16 Apr 2011 07:46:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DA94A81.6070800@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 09:51:29 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Booting OSX into live profile References: <4DA8AF29.9060903@post.cybercity.dk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108979 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 07:46:49 +0000 (UTC) Hehe, yes, it is sometimes a small world with parallel thinking.. Actually, I'm considering using an iPad for controls, which will serve other purposes as well, like a DAW app with 'motorized' faders. Pretty amazing the number of applications that are popping up for this, like DAW controls, live recording and live apps, holders for keyboard, mounts for drumkits et al.. A Mini it is, off to the bay I go. Thanks to all for replies ;) /van Eric James Dearatanha wrote: > Hey vin, > > I actually have a similar setup in my rack... The Mac mini booting to live. So fun huh? > > If you want to monitor i suggest mimo 7in USB powered monitors to have on hand incase you need emergency repatching... They have a touch screen version that works pretty well... You could definitely manage. But i keep one of the Bluetooth trackpads handy as they are much faster to work with. Both can easily stow away in back of rack invisibly. > There are awesome elastic advantages to having the Mac mini with different vst and au in a program like live or main stage. But for raw CPU efficiency Per is right about stand alone units. You can also use iPad/iPhone to control your midi gear with touch osc and a combination of other things ( I use osculator as the osc midi translator, then midi patch bay program to route osculator to the hardware ) so many fun possibilities.. > > > Hope this helps... > > Eric mogli > > Sent from my iPad > > On Apr 15, 2011, at 1:48 PM, van Sinn wrote: > > >>Being a home musician, and as such not needing/wanting real amps/cabs, and thus using convolution/IR's, I'm thinking why not simply add a Mac Mini plus my Fireface400 to my combined guitar/bass rig, and have it boot straight into a a profile setup for live usage. >> >>The reason being that I often just wanna play a Bit, and as such would prefer not having to have a montor attached, log in, click to setup... >>In other words, I'd want to be able to turn on the rig, and have OSX boot into a default live profile. >>When wanting to actually do DAW works, I'd log in and terminate the live profile (preferably have the login mechanism do this). >> >>I'm not familiar with the various live packages, like Ableton Live. >>Anyone done this sort of setup? Then please elaborate.. ;) >> >> >>-- >>rgds, >>van Sinn -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 16 08:36:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B03C51834A0; Sat, 16 Apr 2011 08:36:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DA95521.2070701@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 04:36:49 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Thought Radio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108980 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 08:36:56 +0000 (UTC) THOUGHT RADIO: http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio ======================================================================= My next stint on Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show, will be Saturday, April 16 at 6 am EDT/GMT-4. I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs in Phase One. You will also hear music by artists playing at The Soundscapes Concert Series and The Gatherings. In Phase 3, you'll hear music from the new album "Metalusion" by Glen Drover on Magna Carta Records. I host the show every other week. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 16 12:23:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77C8A1834A1; Sat, 16 Apr 2011 12:23:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DA98A23.70609@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 05:22:59 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stanitarium@earthlink.net CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Frisell and Digitech pds8000 References: <5089695.1302884510950.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <5089695.1302884510950.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108981 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 12:23:07 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, stanitarium@earthlink.net wrote: > apropo of nothing-i lov that record-never far from my player. also i > still have my EH16secDDL and my PDS8000-still going strong. when > engaged wackiness ensues Being a gigantic fan of your past high volume, feedback looping performances at the last two looping festivals and our horrifically underattended San Francisco Noise Fest (never book against Gay Pride in San Francisco.......NEVER!) I would really love to hear you experimenting improvisationally with your EH16secDDL, Stan. I'm just sayin', brother. Send me a loop! the Rickster From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 16 15:51:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 755911834A6; Sat, 16 Apr 2011 15:51:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DA9BB06.6070203@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 11:51:34 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Thought Radio Playlist for April 16, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108982 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 15:51:39 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2011/110416.html The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EDT/GMT-4 on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Show #196 April 16, 2011. On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. Each contemporary issue comes with a CD. However, the early issues came with a cassette. The cassettes from issues one through thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic slip covers with artwork and track details. Details are at: http://sequencesmagazine.com On today's show, I played music by artists who will be playing at the Soundscapes Concert Series and at the Gatherings. Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Ombient And Despair The Wheel Turns (none) M. Peck Them Impending Glacial (Gears of Sand) Solitude Vic Hennegan Ocean Watch Desert God (Space for Music) VA [A.J. Espinal] unreleased Sequences No. 12 VA [Mike Brooks] Bringer of the Dawn Sequences No. 12 VA [Von Daniken] unreleased Sequences No. 12 Jeffrey Koepper Creation Radiate (Riochet Dream) Louis & Bebe Barron Main Titles-Overture Forbidden Planet (Crescendo) Under the Dome Solar Gravity Bellerophon (NeuHarmony) Mystified Tracks 1 - 3 Tribute to Forbidden Planet (Roil Noise) Phase II/Eclectic: Pre-empted by Phase 1. Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Glen Dover Illusions of Metalusion (Magna Carta) Starlight Glen Dover Don't Let the World Metalusion (Magna Carta) Pass You By Morglbl Morglbl Circus Jazz for the Deaf (Laser's Edge) Frogg Cafe From the Fence Bateless Edge (10t) Poor Genetic Drowning the Book Island Noises (Progrock) Material Alan Morse Cold Fusion Four O'clock and Hysteria (InsideOut) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill Fox ======================================================================== Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EDT/GMT-4. Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music. Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Website - http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 16 16:51:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B4BA21834A6; Sat, 16 Apr 2011 16:51:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: Subject: Livelooping Cologne videos Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 18:51:32 +0200 Message-ID: <42EB451050C24B479337F9FE21426875@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acv8VooS4gj6m9/ET9CTQSyFEpxLgQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6090 Resent-Message-ID: <_LGZGC.A.4IE.dkcqNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108983 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 16:51:41 +0000 (UTC) I'm very proud to see Georgina Brett's gorgeous Pythagoras piece online now, live at the Cologne loopfest 2 weeks ago. http://vimeo.com/22480428 Darkroom had already posted their video a week ago http://vimeo.com/21942479 I'm currently uploading a video of my own set. More videos will follow I'm sure. -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 16 17:20:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE60C1834A1; Sat, 16 Apr 2011 17:20:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: Subject: Livelooping Cologne videos Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 19:20:31 +0200 Message-ID: <6D7A41CA177F4630BFE0C6BE451909E7@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acv8WpXhcwoay4rNS+eZ+7+gPQns0A== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6090 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108984 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 17:20:39 +0000 (UTC) Michael Peters's set (edit) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qyy9-d63g0Y From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 16 18:09:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1AFDD1834A8; Sat, 16 Apr 2011 18:09:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tH0tA02V5Aao3s2HxZTboqIu5ZvW3SWYsuJ9XEF/lK8=; b=a95W8kKLNuVVOy1lACkRu2sBvG3RsdvWD7qq8kanKODgZN2RSPEUmXmt4CHutgN59X HOchqdIHMUz17X9a2znqv/s5XePOTdT3mzaIoMneFSR6k5obIer5SWlt3mIQFFYegwsX 5XzS5cD7OaeFSovWgotL4Vm9Z5XHnWoFTiNq8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=bk/g8SiGSxHOQwr/pr5haf0RS+6Vyrj0HmUD1SXPibW++T0rrMO+P+pQCOb2YHq/q0 VTZyHwupTkpk8Wnfe50XXcyIbr1goKaS7lf88TciDgVNdQnzBOl4XOkGiGOnbVSYZnh/ i1QuOP+lt/Cl8Vu4pTXmANPauvpQdVhfhilZg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <6D7A41CA177F4630BFE0C6BE451909E7@mpeserver> References: <6D7A41CA177F4630BFE0C6BE451909E7@mpeserver> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 19:09:24 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Livelooping Cologne videos From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd23c28f807c704a10d0eb1 Resent-Message-ID: <7oeFZB.A.2TG.VtdqNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108985 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 18:09:25 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd23c28f807c704a10d0eb1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 nice On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Michael Peters wrote: > Michael Peters's set (edit) > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qyy9-d63g0Y > > --000e0cd23c28f807c704a10d0eb1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable nice

On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Mic= hael Peters <mp@mpete= rs.de> wrote:
Michael Peters's set (edit)
= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQyy9-d63g0Y


--000e0cd23c28f807c704a10d0eb1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 17 00:09:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0D041834A0; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 00:09:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=17cdrEMpPVM8KiwSGh43UU18FnDtnqrJYZ5lhBQWYfs=; b=Bo7pViqgDPUqvpfwPbbhAqiT1Rbu8MGyLvhUAUoBuvIglVoryJAQMRzHzto08aVhiF g2I22DkyHvxtnI5nyKbMi1h0WW/NyEENoEr3RNnI5/LZX0NXpKGzdEwBg6Kx8MkbLJWp /UKVPZ3x3KKZSitGRWTeoQ4JzmFS4RnmJfFlk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=mQt+RWSMDgvlftnpxM/8LnshuqqfrOQmLqXyRc50oEtPlUPv3jFBccGeJfhA9xgcXP aW84sXu4gYIw/T8Cg5HPcOkxyICy+q3o8mSWJQxRxqww+IsDsteZyV1auoYqyiFYa2IX BcOuhneVUcwSBSMuUSoiGzPf5t5AFgVZ9xTEk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <6D7A41CA177F4630BFE0C6BE451909E7@mpeserver> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 02:09:35 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Livelooping Cologne videos From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108986 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 00:09:36 +0000 (UTC) Ok, here's my two cents! First upload of four: http://www.youtube.com/user/perboysen?feature=mhum#p/a/u/0/4mUc_VWHIgA Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > nice > > On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Michael Peters wrote: >> >> Michael Peters's set (edit) >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qyy9-d63g0Y >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 17 12:27:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E53F1834A1; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 12:27:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=b51v0lyn7ab5ZOKCTMcfCJ2pK0pQJ71ja5g/h8riVRU=; b=Nj/Oja+ujzyQI+AKev2hEIDmLnpQgAFnZXfC4KDi27fhSHC0dIqAY/nvaVR0YnsvqP qp7UvEke4pwfvK6Ero0NC1e952pkwgjn4YZO0qnov8E7W7KaMjXa2SzkIa16hr+EqEl7 AcYoWx8bHU+Dj+PgW2GLlR4ERe48Qth4hEXQY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rgW4XFzPX9cipekdI6BUkjvwBxK74CRyGHuTAAVruHGfDy6j8GNySjr3+1rTcveM9M FRau9wdRi09H501yhTS5EBXk2FzaB3iSjc58AAXOSxQ985wow2JLQKHtLRT4kXAMj1Jp BfB1JkCdKlvJUYXr4IQ1SA4kb1pHUtQrxVfDo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <226839.29395.qm@web112003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 14:27:07 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: our war on nature,when will it stop... (O.T.) From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108987 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 12:27:09 +0000 (UTC) Amen mi amigo,as dark as it is thats the way it is! cheers Luis On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Jim Goodin wrot= e: > It's a bit dark but along these lines Louie and I guess the fact we discu= ss > the enumerable one day reality is a good thing for our own sense of human= ity > but years ago I was on my only trip to Europe which was the UK.=A0 I was = in > England and Scotland, was staying with a B&B in Inverness and chatting wi= th > the host about the then plight of polution/other in our world (had been a > big theme in that year's presidential race with Dukakis and whoever else = in > the pre Bush years).=A0 He commented that it was not mother nature that h= ad > the problem, mother nature would take care of itself it was us that had t= o > worry.=A0 Simplistic but true. > > Jim > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> >> yes thats it,we think we do great until nature knocks on the door >> The guys at Chernobyl though they were doing fine as well,but we forget >> too easy >> mother nature has never declared wars on us,it just remind us what it >> wont negotiate with;-) >> peace >> Luis >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 9:16 AM, John Tidwell wrote= : >> > Considering that Japan's nuclear plants were running fine until a >> > massive earthquake & tsunami, I would think the question should be.... >> > >> > Nature's war on us, when will it stop? >> > >> > >> > John >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> www.luis-angulo.com >> > > > > -- > From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & > Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. > jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. > > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 17 12:57:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D60A718349F; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 12:57:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DAAE3D3.1050204@soundscapes.us> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 08:57:55 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: OMBIENT Tonight at the Soundscapes Concert Series Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108988 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 12:57:59 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us - The Soundscapes Concert Series Sunday, April 17, the Soundscapes Concert Series returns to the Nazareth Center for the Arts with Ombient. TONIGHT at 8:00 pm. Ombient is the moniker under which Mike Hunter performs his ambient/drone/experimental music. Being of a live and improvisational nature, Mike's music is representative of the feeling of the moment in which it is performed and of the subtle feedback between the audience and the performer. Most of the music features six string guitar and/or twelve string Warr Touch Guitar which is processed and layered using digital looping equipment. Mike has lately been using analog and digital synths and sofware applications to extend his horizons. Doors open at 7:30 pm and the concert is at 8:00 pm. The concert is free. Donations are requested to support the musician and to enable the Nazareth Center for the Arts to pay operating expenses. The NCA is located at 30 Belvidere Street, Nazareth, PA 18064 just off of Route 191 on the southwest corner of Belvidere Street and South Spruce Street. Check the NCA site for parking information. The Soundscapes Concert Series is the concert companion to the Galactic Travels radio program on WDIY-FM and to Thought Radio on WMUH-FM and presents electronic music to the Lehigh Valley. This is the concert series that presented Robert Rich (California), vidnaObmana (Belgium), The Ministry of Inside Things (Philadelphia), Richard Lainhart (New York), Orbital Decay (Quakertown), Modulator ESP (UK), Mikronesia (Philadelphia), The Tangent Project (Philadelphia), Chuck van Zyl (Philadelphia), Technicolor Travel Agency (Poconos), and Twyndyllyngs (Lehigh Valley) to local audiences. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 17 14:58:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB0361834A1; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 14:58:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=YQTu8m2g/d1u96YuNmJdwACc+sfEh1bSkPXYsbnVK/A=; b=NODFUpcfDE047OPZ81DXChkDxwdbTHSJRFsPbpRcrHspqPpdghs4m6vKrpXZ9HPaqL U2Q5lyw6yi22mfgUL7BoDsGxZqaatMbVmtWlMGDqO+K7lOi3rBHfiYqyzyoR02jCR+ZZ 2YdgK6ul5ovtwd/NUstYR87t/JuWE24O5RszM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Qy4cllu3KTZJTZ5r2X17M4SP8oe6SQ4ngjlbnjSL6J6knIBOLjmrtaIFvTEYDGIiA+ K4g6XonzU0vk169/bhbWkCIV1iDul5Aaru1hFzSSHmS7HdKCBt/xEPGeklLuiHjtWb7x 4TZq4GZFbrgNMDZtZF9pK8MHG+pYGMO6MNNnI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <6D7A41CA177F4630BFE0C6BE451909E7@mpeserver> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:58:22 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Livelooping Cologne videos From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108989 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 14:58:23 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 2:09 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Ok, here's my two cents! > > First upload of four: > http://www.youtube.com/user/perboysen?feature=mhum#p/a/u/0/4mUc_VWHIgA And her's my second upload: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv-UqIqRlhQ Second out of five that is. Three more to come. Those improvised cells keep multiplying themselves... need to upload faster to get done! Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 17 17:30:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8ECA1834A1; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 17:30:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 934784.47568.bm@omp1019.mail.ukl.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:Content-Type:Subject:Date:Message-Id:To:Mime-Version:X-Mailer; b=4VJVxOqzGTZa38mfb92TCqx6wg1vLWW1iZUWjOmQMlWWW/kqCCK+5DoK6ay/cPiiO4sv4iVIymKuepN9Pg6WvqRr+zH+PvbKN8gmggAzypgHqqMZj9ThTKLNMmDjGuIMa4H99vw6TeWsCP2k9sK9in4WT7rGxqSSk4/AA3ix8OY= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1303061419; bh=ayz7n9WxW24NmhI8yvA3I1zlUVXGH+9RnhgqP2gzcbQ=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:Content-Type:Subject:Date:Message-Id:To:Mime-Version:X-Mailer; b=jn4nhfHVyOk4hasqecXoBW2U77UhtxEzu9p36IQb2nCopAvzGkudIJ890z4H6ESuqGZ+RXulyWBG/lzFitA2ZjaTjV3VPkM3Ebm1K2Cb9hnSEnlmMV5SziI3wt+v0VIBH/UFhvNyckq5tDGCufEmMxiB1NG8QxPGnGL7YRyB0Gk= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: Hlc9nIAVM1kEPWuwahXver9gARPWDTqbafDxa.RS4RbzthU zv2c5hEFZE0HHLRyCsWiYIO0QQlFycvR_ma4J1wIVO_nqXS4pvr4uJ5T7aYV 4_yuD3vWNzNR0rVxYscumwIxgH0UOmR2ur.T9lYHDOxREyTvDjcYlGer8AYu vNGT0huCzFthC4tue2EuePT_5BTfNcP9dVzCRMa_pUYAxrbpW3yhh1.bEDWy JmMlrQhb8_mDNDOjVRQC7ecWDFNjju9ri1d1TccyvDGGZAIQy0UIzK5RSqt4 VuZXvggN2Zw8RPu9lC_DFSnVRbSd6QanoKJebHC3mFihnH.xX5CXt6g-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: Matt Stevens Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-484188501 Subject: Online gig spam: streaming gig in half an hour Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 18:30:19 +0100 Message-Id: <1E5DA065-D593-487A-8374-2861A82B3DCF@btinternet.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108990 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 17:30:21 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-484188501 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi guys To warm up for the gig I'm doing with Credo on the 23rd at the Peel and = with Fish (of out of Marillion fame) on the 29th I'm doing an online = streaming gig to force me to practice :) You can watch it here: www.cafenoodle.ning.com Its a 35/40 min set and i'd really like it if you joined me - You can = watch here at 7pm UK. International times are here: = http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=3D1&iso=3D2011041= 7T19&p1=3D136&ah=3D1 I'd really like to have a chat about the cafe noodle site and the future = of it.. also tonight: 8pm - Le K=F3i 9pm - Sincere Deceivers=20 Thanks Matt Stevens http://www.mattstevensguitar.com http://www.spencerparkmusic.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com --Apple-Mail-2-484188501 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
To warm up for = the gig I'm doing with Credo on the 23rd at the Peel and with Fish (of = out of Marillion fame) on the 29th I'm doing an online streaming gig to = force me to practice :)

You can watch it here:

www.cafenoodle.ning.com

Its a 35/40 = min set and i'd really like it if you joined me - You can watch here at = 7pm UK. International times are here:

136&ah=3D1

I'd really like to = have a chat about the cafe noodle site and the future of = it..

also tonight:

8pm - Le K=F3i
9pm - Sincere = Deceivers 

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= --Apple-Mail-2-484188501-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 18 00:30:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB9FF18349D; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 00:30:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=YTt6zfIMUUG+hU8HBclEspwxzzd/SXyWTXnLtWazJuk=; b=xxG2Ustrjje7W8Tt3jsdFwd8V438y+WTHABJei6iigJAh5+T+3SinXx279TV0V10zi VdOvXx5dMT1zFG4RT5V0V9G7AEzGRwzQAG1pxEAXM4dY7BzSGed0ouXTkV3ezsaWRx8N 42TFvKEyz7AUsb3OA7d0q/m7rjXpYhYO0C9XM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=sxUFuhidpkVlD2IfCTBD89Wc2Te0ayXYjGGjIDPgXJLPn+fv1fzHo1uaSZHPWwdTDE Va0WGnBQVtNafx4aWM5fno7ArwhY/wolXa2+QIp6+yxxPWcu4FSzCC5xkthFBAZmUoPy oUjMp0oF3JnwG7CE2qAcUyHproJxw3Zzc7q2A= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 02:30:40 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: well ableton live is pretty cool, isn't it! From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108991 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 00:30:43 +0000 (UTC) Hi Per, i converted all clips to audio yes to keep down loading time,yes ive been checking out the different launch features but i gotta dig in a bit deeper on that,man the thing is keeping me busy but i love it! cheers Luis On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> the only issue im still dealing with is how the drum loops sync and >> behave to the looper,sometimes it starts to fast and sometimes to >> slow > > I don't know how you play back those drum loops, but have you tried > setting them up as audio clips in Live? Then then you can pre define > launch and playback preferences for each clip. Tip: synced legato > clips is a cool thing you can do in Live (utilizing the random engine > in the clip preferences) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 18 00:56:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4769B18349D; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 00:56:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:from:to:content-type:mime-version :subject:date:x-mailer; bh=HTWmuUXjY29hRrn4YjauaDNuiTCclTvBfjjP5v9SsyU=; b=TseiXw5IGnBowbSFHsQzZjv0ibQx7HutsHTyX/8DOBjG/SjPCaUqB3+ArALHGyRhYN lbBPHWPP8sphMXfjBHkXSUTd5u37K5IM9wMjl2WaEjltjA7PjuQFhshqEVU0BFEwIdX4 mxNJwlVvNpjUwJmwmyIufe3f9hx/4gnTpVKOw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer; b=TrafEg3o/QH2gC1B6r6tlzmYbeqdmk2m37dAuoBEQrV0eBqn4GQNHkIJDw63FEtmjR KgVVhuzFJMBa/uHWcJXTYNl0omdvRVyt0CBHMK+rYpjUjulxJNFgr0AatesLqG99Sfu7 njvshWJjyJUD0SX+4XVI9bNevLaWYSjUuksjk= Message-Id: From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-510946336 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: looping on npr Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 17:56:17 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108992 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 00:56:27 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-510946336 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tuneyards on Sunday All Things Considered 4/16: http://www.npr.org/2011/04/17/135443035/tune-yards-expanding-and-grabbing-attention regards BobC http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j http://cdbaby.com/cd/rpcollier6 --Apple-Mail-1-510946336 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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= --Apple-Mail-1-510946336-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 18 07:46:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3D55183453; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 07:46:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=bo3gE7oD8WcUUj7pJk7X3HrLtVZkGkZJ8TZ+o7ZWBE4=; b=ZOkTpFpfQaxtKy8tys6yjEtIRd9+AziWkn4hvU/OhODx+E65Vbt6E+4fRK6WBqefBl n1CIbZWJCYWc1O0HtX14uJdv65DaTc4lzU2gaVk7eua2bmrMZRyucGpvjqmBp5vobQHf O1eboFbhtCkOhPMLzzXu/cvBl0yjA23vyl7lE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=TDXsHLSxIOOyrKw50wGX1v/JItyQBxX/j1+EtR0tisGyfrTE1a9vB8ji6LezH5nlcW k4QqqSaatYU1GwpUC/78w3nIH9jYdTXAdUdVNHTWHF17K3LEUKHIWGb6N2Vu+3kLhNZr 9zfS/tj162tlWKbR4yatVtrJXa8JP6+boiq0k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 02:46:21 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: EDP and Octatrack? How to post-process loops? From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54306966db38304a12c96c7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108993 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 07:46:22 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec54306966db38304a12c96c7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I am currently running guitar-> effects -> EDP. I would like to further post-process the loops though, and I'm wondering if another EDP + more effects would be the way to go, or should I get a sampler? Guitar -> Effects -> EDP -> Effects -> EDP or Guitar -> Effects -> EDP -> Octatrack If I had the octatrack, I could sample the loop and process it from there. Ideally, I'd like to use the octatrack to act as a multi-track sampler. I don't know if it would be more cost efficient than another EDP + pedals. Anyone have suggestions? --bcaec54306966db38304a12c96c7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am currently running guitar-> effects -> EDP.

I = would like to further post-process the loops though, and I'm wondering = if another EDP + more effects would be the way to go, or should I get a sam= pler?

Guitar -> Effects -> EDP -> Effects -> EDP<= /div>
or
Guitar -> Effects -> EDP -> Octatrack
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If I had the octatrack, I could sample the loop and pro= cess it from there. Ideally, I'd like to use the octatrack to act as a = multi-track sampler. I don't know if it would be more cost efficient th= an another EDP + pedals.=A0

Anyone have suggestions?
--bcaec54306966db38304a12c96c7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 18 08:18:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D7A418349D; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 08:18:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 599664016/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.28.179/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.28.179 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmYCANnyq01YbRyz/2dsb2JhbAAMmAzQBoVxBJFr X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.64,231,1301871600"; d="scan'208";a="599664016" Message-ID: <4DABF402.7020900@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 09:19:14 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP and Octatrack? How to post-process loops? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108994 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 08:18:49 +0000 (UTC) hi Marcus, hmm...to achieve *exactly* what you asked there, what you'd need is Guitar -> Effects -> EDP -> Effects ;-) If you want to resample the effected loop it's possible to use a mixer and re-route the post fx back to the EDP. (or route the edp o/p to the input of the pre-fx). Has the advantages that you can re-process as many times as you like (while saving the original), you can seemlessly resample(which is awkward otherwise) ...and cost wise you'll have plenty of cash left over. andy marcus kirby wrote: > I am currently running guitar-> effects -> EDP. > > I would like to further post-process the loops though, and I'm wondering > if another EDP + more effects would be the way to go, or should I get a > sampler? > > Guitar -> Effects -> EDP -> Effects -> EDP > or > Guitar -> Effects -> EDP -> Octatrack > > If I had the octatrack, I could sample the loop and process it from > there. Ideally, I'd like to use the octatrack to act as a multi-track > sampler. I don't know if it would be more cost efficient than another > EDP + pedals. > > Anyone have suggestions? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 18 09:06:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E620218344B; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 09:06:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=6hafLIGM9YYMsDEEXDairfbFXPueMwPyaXwi1GuPGF4=; b=kRvBz7nz3aZhMHGeQbFKgBHpAfY/iGdlKM6mOzHGqxSmMIbasWSfKN58u777VLzcW9 OSI7T87iHY5vPeHE2g6IO7HecQdEND5kKfRA3XlbJP0AKVXVXzLnywZQSoQlcMuS3bup ahD8wEtK1JfIUqqIfXuc0qkIhAnLTQjrFvkb8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=qOqYV8VApCrJ6y2rUy8OsnodJP7r7lRi74UK6c8b+d2Wcj7CFqsA77y3Mzw5jdHiDF e8O788T62YHW2Wrq+V4G9agDeaXgu1RlRvjPWT9cCmz+Skd1oPNe0srohngMQwKHQ70s xWTYCi8XMbjK6IrSUZ8QfZWHDI0SieVRGGha8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 11:06:35 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Looper from Spain "Naguall" From: Fabio_A To: "" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec5489e4365468a04a12db506 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108995 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 09:06:36 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec5489e4365468a04a12db506 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey gang, this morning I got an e.mail by a guy from Madrid, asking me info about looping, so I drove him to the list. Dont' know of he will subcribe, anyway he deserves a listening (IMHO). Her's a nice live set. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l09vKUbhRgs -f www.eterogeneo.com --bcaec5489e4365468a04a12db506 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey gang,
this morning I got an e.mail by a guy from Madrid,
asking me info about looping, so I drove him to the list.
Dont' know of he will subcribe, anyway he deserves a listening (IM= HO).
=A0
Her's a nice live set.
=A0
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--bcaec5489e4365468a04a12db506-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 18 09:13:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54D7F18349D; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 09:13:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_895a5470-7668-4f8e-99b0-19328ccff527_" X-Originating-IP: [83.145.33.34] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: EDP and Octatrack? How to post-process loops? Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 09:13:44 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4DABF402.7020900@tiscali.co.uk> References: ,<4DABF402.7020900@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Apr 2011 09:13:44.0755 (UTC) FILETIME=[EAE74830:01CBFDA8] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108996 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 09:13:45 +0000 (UTC) --_895a5470-7668-4f8e-99b0-19328ccff527_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As both an EDP and OctaTrack user i would think that there is no way effect= s is going to replace the octa track=2C it's an 8 track sampler that allows= you do do sequenced sound processing GREAT fun. It's more Abelton live in = a box with cool effects than "just" an effects box.Now the Octatrack is st= ill in Beta=2C OS 1.0 is due sometime before summer and they have promised = a looping machine that we will probably have during Q3 so the octa is growi= ng. I have not used it with the EDP yet=2C my plan is to route "clean" guit= ar to input A on the octa=2C EDP out to input C that way I can chose to sam= ple either the guitar or teh EDP. Wath i will eventually do is to find away= to also feed the Octatrack into the EDP.. not sure how to manage that.Anyw= ay=2C the octatrock is great looping fun on it's own. The last few months I= have not toucher the EDP=2C every time i felt like looping i have used the= Octa=2C and it=E4s also to learn the beast. 3separate LFO's (and you can e= ven create your own shapes) a lot of great effects (the delay can work as a= mini looper) pitch shift=2C ratechange (speed=2C seamless to full reverse.= .. and all cool seqouncing to create rhythmic sound effects (you can for ex= ample trigger a sample on step 1=2C reverse it on step 5=2C pitch shift it = on 9 add delay on step 11 and now you can LIVE record all your tweaks.. the= n you can re sample the result to a new track=2C record something else on t= he tweaked track and be surprised by tha sound.. the octatrack is very much= an instrument in it self=2C much like the EDP. I have a few posted experim= ents on soundcloud featuring the octatrack as a live looper.This is the lat= est track (i cheat on this one by having a drum sample looped=2C i have twe= aked it a bit) all the rest is live looping and sound manipulating.. (it be= came a instrumental version of Spoonful=2C the Howling Wolf classic) http://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/a-spoonful-of-loops There are a lot of other track there as well (with no prerecorded loops)=2C= So Marcus get an Octatrack !! It's a STEEP learning curve and sometimes fr= ustrating=2C but in my opinion worth it..=20 Anders > Date: Mon=2C 18 Apr 2011 09:19:14 +0100 > From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: EDP and Octatrack? How to post-process loops? >=20 > hi Marcus=2C >=20 > hmm...to achieve *exactly* what you asked there=2C > what you'd need is >=20 > Guitar -> Effects -> EDP -> Effects >=20 > =3B-) >=20 > If you want to resample the effected loop it's > possible to use a mixer and re-route the post fx > back to the EDP. (or route the edp o/p to the input of the pre-fx). >=20 > Has the advantages that you can re-process as many times as you like > (while saving the original)=2C > you can seemlessly resample(which is awkward otherwise) > ...and cost wise you'll have plenty of > cash left over. >=20 = --_895a5470-7668-4f8e-99b0-19328ccff527_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As both an EDP = and OctaTrack user i would think that there is no way effects is going to r= eplace the octa track=2C it's an 8 track sampler that allows you do do sequ= enced sound processing GREAT fun. It's more Abelton live in a box with cool= effects than =3B"just" =3Ban  =3Beffects box.
Now the Octatrack is still = in Beta=2C OS 1.0 is due sometime before summer and they have promised a lo= oping machine that we will probably have during Q3 so the octa is growing.&= nbsp=3B
I ha= ve not used it with the EDP yet=2C my plan is to route "clean" guitar to in= put A on the octa=2C EDP out to input C that way I can chose to sample eith= er the guitar or teh EDP. Wath i will eventually do is to find away to also= feed the Octatrack into the EDP.. not sure how to manage that.
<= font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">Anyway=2C the oc= tatrock is great looping fun on it's own. The last few months I have not to= ucher the EDP=2C =3Bevery time =3Bi felt like looping i have used t= he Octa=2C and it=E4s also to learn the beast. 3separate LFO's (and you can= even create your own shapes) a lot of great effects (the delay can work as= a mini looper) pitch shift=2C ratechange (speed=2C =3Bseamless =3B= to full reverse... and all cool seqouncing to create =3Brhythmic = =3Bsound effects (you can for example trigger a sample on step 1=2C reverse= it on step 5=2C pitch shift it on 9 add delay on step 11 and now you can L= IVE record all your tweaks.. then you can =3Bre sample =3Bthe resul= t to a new track=2C record something else on the tweaked track and be surpr= ised by tha sound.. the octatrack is very much an instrument in it self=2C = much like the EDP. =3B
I have a few posted experiments on soundcloud = featuring the octatrack as a live looper.
This is the latest track (i che= at on this one by having a drum sample looped=2C i have tweaked it a bit) a= ll the rest is live looping and sound manipulating.. (it became a instrumen= tal version of Spoonful=2C the Howling Wolf classic)

= There are a lot of other track there as well (with no prerecorded loops)=2C=  =3B
So Marcus get an Octatrack !! It's a STEEP learning curv= e and sometimes frustrating=2C but in my opinion worth it.. =3B

Anders

>=3B Date: Mon=2C 18 Apr 2011 09:19:14 +0100
>=3B F= rom: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.c= om
>=3B Subject: Re: EDP and Octatrack? How to post-process loops?
= >=3B
>=3B hi Marcus=2C
>=3B
>=3B hmm...to achieve *exact= ly* what you asked there=2C
>=3B what you'd need is
>=3B
>= =3B Guitar ->=3B Effects ->=3B EDP ->=3B Effects
>=3B
>=3B= =3B-)
>=3B
>=3B If you want to resample the effected loop it's<= br>>=3B possible to use a mixer and re-route the post fx
>=3B back t= o the EDP. (or route the edp o/p to the input of the pre-fx).
>=3B >=3B Has the advantages that you can re-process as many times as you lik= e
>=3B (while saving the original)=2C
>=3B you can seemlessly res= ample(which is awkward otherwise)
>=3B ...and cost wise you'll have pl= enty of
>=3B cash left over.
>=3B

= --_895a5470-7668-4f8e-99b0-19328ccff527_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 18 12:00:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3066A18349C; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 12:00:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_2c80844a-fb96-47fb-9a6a-5e7698cc20da_" X-Originating-IP: [86.139.253.12] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: Monolith demo released Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 12:00:00 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Apr 2011 12:00:00.0581 (UTC) FILETIME=[24F58750:01CBFDC0] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108997 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 12:00:02 +0000 (UTC) --_2c80844a-fb96-47fb-9a6a-5e7698cc20da_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Some of you instrument expanding types might be interested to try out the b= eta demo... I need feedback! Incidentally=2C I've been using the 10sec stereo delay as a sort of looper = on it. You can play a sound into the loop=2C change sounds to add more=2C p= lay over the top=2C change loop length etc. It's all tempo synchable too - = theoretically... :-) I'm writing the manual currently so it my be a bit confusing at first... Peace Gareth@Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ = --_2c80844a-fb96-47fb-9a6a-5e7698cc20da_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Some of you instrument expanding types might be interested to try out the b= eta demo... I need feedback!
Incidentally=2C I've been using the 10sec s= tereo delay as a sort of looper on it. You can play a sound into the loop= =2C change sounds to add more=2C play over the top=2C change loop length et= c. It's all tempo synchable too - theoretically... :-)
I'm writing the m= anual currently so it my be a bit confusing at first...

Peace
Gareth@Sentientfx - =3B Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/



=

 =3B
= --_2c80844a-fb96-47fb-9a6a-5e7698cc20da_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 18 12:24:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05D57183447; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 12:24:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sRr5hGwpTPeA+3hZ83CKlmhol5favR0UjHjiIYisnyg=; b=sQ9UEE5pMkeAQk9yUnF0uY61yc+h/DJZFj4VGk5SxuOJxDwyQ8/bdHN4mw/GdU6Jxi gOfbFOYLZH8PLc5BN/tPmcHWKJT5Q9Te5g5gZZBywza/ZdJyTtmMtDyLJj4zbGcHjVU5 D6YEUYZjzUAiXoW3rWs7aHU6cOJnaI7fwmB9Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XzVgH9EuJZ0OrmwIA+X7Ly+ydTjNTXi9PiqRd5Bsz5Ab2DnbAAm6Wvn0GeuUV2jiu8 8RtxvRfQlKWLyt8bQF3nHfvyRLDXpk2tS/zW61nan+ILq2R83TN/8sPUJXssNrA2RmtF YYEptzdSvp1qSD6gAtmWJdOqArBTtIoblG6+s= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 08:24:06 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Monolith demo released From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108998 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 12:24:07 +0000 (UTC) no joy for the mac? (btw, all flash website is not ideal... not very accessible for those of us with crappy eyesight who usually resize text to make it more readable, to say nothing of search engine optimization...) Sylvain On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > Some of you instrument expanding types might be interested to try out the > beta demo... I need feedback! > Incidentally, I've been using the 10sec stereo delay as a sort of looper = on > it. You can play a sound into the loop, change sounds to add more, play o= ver > the top, change loop length etc. It's all tempo synchable too - > theoretically... :-) > I'm writing the manual currently so it my be a bit confusing at first... > > Peace > > Gareth@Sentientfx -=A0 Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > > > > ________________________________ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 18 12:34:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8714C18349D; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 12:34:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_1b8c7a27-6ca7-4dc1-8a20-71e48c07ba66_" X-Originating-IP: [86.139.253.12] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: Monolith demo released Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 12:34:02 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Apr 2011 12:34:02.0847 (UTC) FILETIME=[E63E96F0:01CBFDC4] Resent-Message-ID: <3VGALD.A.8pG.7-CrNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108999 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 12:34:04 +0000 (UTC) --_1b8c7a27-6ca7-4dc1-8a20-71e48c07ba66_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry about the lack of readability Sylvain - I'm using a template and ther= e's limited editability on the contrast front. A new website is in the pipe= line but will be a while and I will bear in mind your comments on the flas= h build too. The mac port is being looked into - I have a contact but need to iron out b= ugs in this version first. Thanks for your feedback though. Peace Gareth@Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > Date: Mon=2C 18 Apr 2011 08:24:06 -0400 > Subject: Re: Monolith demo released > From: sylvain.trombone@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > no joy for the mac? > (btw=2C all flash website is not ideal... not very accessible for those > of us with crappy eyesight who usually resize text to make it more > readable=2C to say nothing of search engine optimization...) > Sylvain >=20 >=20 > On Mon=2C Apr 18=2C 2011 at 8:00 AM=2C Gareth Whittock > wrote: > > Some of you instrument expanding types might be interested to try out t= he > > beta demo... I need feedback! > > Incidentally=2C I've been using the 10sec stereo delay as a sort of loo= per on > > it. You can play a sound into the loop=2C change sounds to add more=2C = play over > > the top=2C change loop length etc. It's all tempo synchable too - > > theoretically... :-) > > I'm writing the manual currently so it my be a bit confusing at first..= . > > > > Peace > > > > Gareth@Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > >=20 = --_1b8c7a27-6ca7-4dc1-8a20-71e48c07ba66_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry about the lack of readability Sylvain - I'm using a template and ther= e's limited editability on the contrast front. A new website is in the pipe= line but will be a while =3B and I will bear in mind your comments on t= he flash build too.
The mac port is being looked into - I have a contact= but need to iron out bugs in this version first.
Thanks for your feedba= ck though.

Peace


Gareth@Sentientfx - =3B Innovative m= usic plugins. http://s= entientfx.com/



>=3B Date: Mon=2C 18 Apr 2011 08:24:06 = -0400
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= --_1b8c7a27-6ca7-4dc1-8a20-71e48c07ba66_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 18 13:18:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07B8218344B; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:18:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=1PCFnJOUuHdzuX92By9+k8rE0htpBrEWsW5Ok9D/TL4=; b=glRtUGFAE0ZlV1S1OcBFIPfGVZyNRD/GOuZzhenFD1kWyoLLZCcsLQfhwnZA3AZ0ks dyFvniChetXV6VY3cVzUs/zf82/epbzwRjwUaSPB8NROCTxWDCS8+Bmt/MTVUS9jQDXt HYfkvT0pdfd2nN5NyrkLEoW9bgQwl1dx5/sl8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=IB1Vbe2LrS0oy6m6NvcmNiCUTqU0U4WAI1hLzsfmKEu+RYc8+gkbuGXOPyY5Zq8PRT 9hdOgUgV8mC/qffDrhuKaWsryLkliLVP5Ra7NbGuK3k7FcAZdFFTIWo5R2jM/iNnU1iS IwSCtrkL0WhKvp94Klu1tHmzqfCzxBdBZm3cY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 15:18:27 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Recomended fast USB hubs for Imac From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109000 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:18:29 +0000 (UTC) ok gang,so ive runned out of usbs in the back of my Imac,after pers recomendation i also bought the soundtoys plugin bundel which is absolutely awesome but requires a usb authorization stick to be plugged in im also moving all my native intstruments sound libraries and samples to an external WD 500GB usb portable external drive. ive never owned one so i dont know if there would be drawbacks and disadvantages as far as speed is concerned pluging the external drive into a usb extension . If quality is crucial could you then recomend me a good and fast usb hub for that? many thanx! Luis -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 18 13:25:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2841218349D; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:25:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5zACk2pjXsJWTYjw01Xz5jF2EzOswVlAYDboE2dt8iE=; b=xcPMYVKpLm8lUGYnhGoq5qP45zvHnoCcgfoHsUzBJMeBrVgeKEgge5MqxMdmh6ll+Z i2ePGgRbMCw88CtAdSm7cPTZgM5mJd/EBvy60vIOQM0KpQziprNwzMFIqL5Er87WHjRZ 8KUE4ahosy2xGUhE5rhKcjbVJgo+PKSJzEf/Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=P+sVM2pLMCUqlkFjiCDYnRseVTDTbagscx7FEjm3FDbsr7n/IKoaSkUZDfkKGkmq7e 2AxECbHaGlmNb3hCfv58OIVRAqPf/dIfytDvcuvgQLgjA6+iO3ZucYWvIweicCDQJAvq jbvBTLasXDimqQCwQ1aAbiVbAtIRgrsjjacj4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 15:25:18 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looper from Spain "Naguall" From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109001 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:25:21 +0000 (UTC) beautiful stuff! no information as to what he is using to do the looping,it sounds as if being simultaneously sequenced or prearanged,but perfectly performed,breath taking... Luis On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Fabio_A wrote: > Hey gang, > this morning I got an e.mail by a guy from Madrid, > asking me info about looping, so I drove him to the list. > Dont' know of he will subcribe, anyway he deserves a listening (IMHO). > > Her's a nice live set. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l09vKUbhRgs > > -f > www.eterogeneo.com > > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 18 13:25:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD1BE183453; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:25:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=Iq4nAJNykyunstrUnUeuaczEyVokaDI3E4+tRljF61s=; b=WBBvt37PM62Ex7xpiILf6t0h8WFRJYTuRUAr/+pbDnr+/fsDUV3cze3yNbJgj/cWtO PYlbC/T2u6cPwvve7kXQPUZfcBVcbKx3/jkymAmoqycOqXySvVThG18xnGGYPnQ339VJ clLQQjyjnxdKlZXvBMeuAJGEnvxyAUFlGXILQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=FNUp8vUEIhZaSiKQbUWau3WPhP26xghjE213xY7Jl3r8g8dL6QGxalDydcLw6i32gG xLpBaA7KQaXNkcaSfodxkdBrUcow7/PrxQGs7CgpgFnzWTQ4LCpoUbcBTB4I/TQoi6u6 RAe4ZErFXVwfodrA7x6ki4CMIpGWny5IOmMZs= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Recomended fast USB hubs for Imac From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 09:25:36 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <58E4E5FB-AEAC-4AF4-8512-BEAB21B15DDD@gmail.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109002 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:25:40 +0000 (UTC) I personally wouldn't want to put the hard drive streaming samples on a = hub but maybe somebody else on the list has tried it successfully? I = have my Fireface UC on it's own usb port, the hard drive with all my = audio files is using the FW800 port(it's where I record to as well), = then I have the hub plugged into one of the usb ports. On the hub I = plugged it the iLok(for things like Soundtoys), external keyboard, = mouse, and another hard drive for periodic backup purposes. So my non = critical accessories are plugged into the powered hub.=20 -Todd Matthews On Apr 18, 2011, at 9:18 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > ok gang,so ive runned out of usbs in the back of my Imac,after pers > recomendation i also bought the soundtoys plugin bundel which is > absolutely awesome but requires a usb authorization stick to be > plugged in > im also moving all my native intstruments sound libraries and samples > to an external WD 500GB usb portable external drive. > ive never owned one so i dont know if there would be drawbacks and > disadvantages as far as speed is concerned pluging the external drive > into a usb extension . > If quality is crucial could you then recomend me a good and fast usb > hub for that? > many thanx! > Luis >=20 > --=20 > www.luis-angulo.com >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 18 13:26:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4DC51834A0; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:26:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=jucKderKYp1P2TAwZ4MCc/FbyfsMt0iH9BE53bslP/A=; b=RH+PeXjwJBA1iF9bnB3Lqu9iZBDkkfpFXPsXftEFj+GSelePs4FF+GRsXWkMmujuI4 WcyiCsnmjuCSiE27s7JKZ307kMN6WXhsEsp3QNWBstVFbCoBw8drmfkBlWTcGrjpMrCp hhArFNd+lMM8Bw8h/AqsfKlFS8bfwXqZcaiik= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=bdQ2gtU8IMKkeuv+0UbgmWqjmW6qHnmK7MU+50KTBKt7Ag7hf0Sn1pR/JX8c/ymJh0 eKg1wcBbxJ6gMEJCHHRIeOGQgXCUQJV1hg5/nGBGNNDtzAtwFGT3Re6k9nPH9OvGymib 9VO/E9aSu4xtpB27X9javCFdVxcBhfgrQeAyA= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Recomended fast USB hubs for Imac From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 09:26:41 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1F84778E-1896-498F-A343-40C0855AB04D@gmail.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <2fIRtC.A.F4H.UwDrNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109003 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:26:44 +0000 (UTC) Sorry I forgot to recommend one but I think as long as it's powered and = your just using it for accessories it should be fine. On Apr 18, 2011, at 9:18 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > ok gang,so ive runned out of usbs in the back of my Imac,after pers > recomendation i also bought the soundtoys plugin bundel which is > absolutely awesome but requires a usb authorization stick to be > plugged in From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 18 13:27:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 207781834A2; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:27:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1303133220; bh=3EWyektTWoyctBDX3P1ptMa7DZOgAKGkN3cq2GwoBiY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CF12ZWit10NuUN2JASFzLJqAyNOEHCmCZj/s6rRBfG8VcE6oeb6ousRU/zhx5CWOaKwd8ckdNl48cQu48o0d0Pss696yGNTVH+vOADgnFcVMR5UpwH3Pqtyagk9QUGxu9Su/qmFQHm0pA7C6Ft2bkFQ21j+sDGvfaK/Tv5kC25Y= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uccZARt+YWPC5u67ei31KDHW/Z8mpxbjU3iXowLTScEYhLbl/1sdVbp5qKh3pIuFZio+qzIAmoDDi06i8/h1WtfP4hD7HJ2SZ/hYOnWSQj5XVmw4LumeueZuAbK/YUgoCON+WqOd/K6J/MIp33u5UwUJQvrEwvAFulTRo7Rux34=; Message-ID: <354392.55158.qm@web36706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: BG4GGB4VM1lhmxckDByxFtgVYBLynWZ4fae16LfEigKhMua 2rJy6TOx6d71xE5t97_rCrip2jK_rE9LasOxhHGbX67UaKHdNsDZSSx._12d i8baOsV0EKENeUN7ZFPEUqzG6FiTzIzEpyeOjmXAX_YynnDKq6gcSDVBDt0r OKtOtsh0JadX2C5g5I1wr3Ce3nKQVorRRf9JvPghp_fLSQ7.yDuaKsFGs6XA Xo2gxDvtzp1ZmO3jpC4Sx.TGyUp_d_RJgHEp2RU7ZTSktfy1gqGyhFIVitVJ 8y8kjunGntj.dZruJrcHoesNWiTsFba42oQGf1TEr_h6KXjunPxPXaj3x54y bKHe5aMqZ.tYLxqcMvrUVGxanVPn.UbEcGAlwu5wrKAt6h7tFlpNdIHpFxXL JJPhurhnZojo2mw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/12.0.2 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 06:27:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: OT: Eventide Space - an amazing amount of reverb effects! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-892913328-1303133220=:55158" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109004 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:27:01 +0000 (UTC) --0-892913328-1303133220=:55158 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, all: =A0 I am having serious difficulty finding a standard reverb patch on the Space= ! The unit comes with about 80-plus patches created by various artists (the= first x number are the core patches). There are some incredible tweaked pa= tches available on the unit. I play guitar so many of them seem, to me, ori= ented towards synths/keys (not that they can't be usable by guitarists). Fo= r the kinds of music many of the loopers on this board appear to be involve= d with, this unit strikes me as being incredibly versatile and robust tool = affording a real springboard for creativity. =A0 P --0-892913328-1303133220=:55158 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I am having serious difficulty finding a standard reverb patch on the = Space! The unit comes with about 80-plus patches created by various artists= (the first x number are the core patches). There are some incredible tweak= ed patches available on the unit. I play guitar so many of them seem, to me= , oriented towards synths/keys (not that they can't be usable by guitarists= ). For the kinds of music many of the loopers on this board appear to be in= volved with, this unit strikes me as being incredibly versatile and robust = tool affording a real springboard for creativity.
 
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--0-892913328-1303133220=:55158-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 18 13:49:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E0DA318349D; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:49:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=0orF7BJtqiTmrDJVW3wu+ju8X+qtZBmfTDK1nzhLp5k=; b=T3pK0KJA5SBEDETPboLIPws6X/8mszIti16ivRCwMZgjq1NCOXL0kdf+s42qP2Xk6H pnRGDIFRgr/WwD1KUFegJMeEmc+Vt6EqEL3KJDmGoAq/VRQnM+Z3u23wbsnaIbWkC1Qw bN3s0RZx2iBMoQ9PGaZaalGzqcdGEcRooYrNk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=rRfsswF1YUlmCrzi01RpLUuzjcS7Igb99+0C0ZY2bW0FKO6eNPi1nuwnCAmhzjfIWI I0dpvw5gZdBXYO1piy4z8cEnvqmNZToArtPTn7r85y9Q/pTDwXn2KbrB9fhnJj5Xb/kD GZNLsR+1L+/FqOIBTTd9ut6tePFubZPbkH7JM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <354392.55158.qm@web36706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <354392.55158.qm@web36706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 15:49:11 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6P2FYJLT70D6OcStjsOD4nvQ5vk Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Eventide Space - an amazing amount of reverb effects! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8d8a37746304a131a977 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109005 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:49:32 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8d8a37746304a131a977 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Paul Richards wrote: > I am having serious difficulty finding a standard reverb patch on the > Space! Ha ha, you make that sound like a BAD thing! -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba6e8d8a37746304a131a977 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Paul Richards <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com>= ; wrote:
I am having serious difficulty finding a standard reverb patch on the Space= !

Ha ha, you make that sound like a BAD thing!

--
Mark Francombe<= br> www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--90e6ba6e8d8a37746304a131a977-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 18 13:52:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DDA231834A7; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:52:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:52:20 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_c901faf6-54da-4066-9d6b-50eb5050b4ab_" X-Originating-IP: [87.102.15.109] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: MyOneManBand Videos Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:47:19 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <58E4E5FB-AEAC-4AF4-8512-BEAB21B15DDD@gmail.com> References: ,<58E4E5FB-AEAC-4AF4-8512-BEAB21B15DDD@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Apr 2011 13:47:19.0710 (UTC) FILETIME=[22FAA3E0:01CBFDCF] Resent-Message-ID: <6e3apD.A.8l.VIErNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109006 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:52:21 +0000 (UTC) --_c901faf6-54da-4066-9d6b-50eb5050b4ab_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy=2C its Phill Wilson a.k.a MyOneManBand I've finally got around to creating a youtube channel and adding some video= s here is a live looped improvised one for you if you have time . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D9ThhP83aGZ0 for the full channel including non looped stuff =2C live looped hardware st= uff ( emx / flame 6 in a row / kaossilators etc without) and more guitar lo= oping check out my channel http://www.youtube.com/phillwilson I would love ot hear your comments / ideas / chats=20 thanks Phill MOMB = --_c901faf6-54da-4066-9d6b-50eb5050b4ab_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy=2C

its Phill Wilson a.k.a MyOneManBand

I've finally got= around to creating a youtube channel and adding some videos

here is= a live looped improvised =3B one for you if you have time .

htt= p://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D9ThhP83aGZ0

for the full channel inclu= ding non looped stuff =2C live looped hardware stuff ( emx / flame 6 in a r= ow / kaossilators etc without) and more guitar looping check out my channel=


http://www.youtube.com/phillwilson


I would love ot h= ear your comments / ideas / chats


thanks

Phill MOMB
= = --_c901faf6-54da-4066-9d6b-50eb5050b4ab_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 18 14:09:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A5D7418349D; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 14:09:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=OuI+K2/B6hLePYZ8qk+29gzylzrFlS14hgweknubGZ4=; b=WjM41hkd+aT1pJ9T8m0ZXvrald0s7A4pjCMypucvj+M4PmZf4sOlrODm0MDBDyiZL5 XSScJcHupGOhuzvuV8hLm3q479magyPz8sCoQgf7dscJGxBW8A6ai6/em34CJUI6Y5VL iFFt2FYm7II+x1wafNC2lkspLQKDZvUMS6BOA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hlKsviEwNcqABzsEQPl3z+J3jOQOmjJGBxDVZpJPdAu160U0cO5kNscmdqxAyn/KRB Zh4WcaL+HrB68tZntIvMNFVA3YSv4LBmV/gPXPaUR1pHcIoXL0fP1CPFK54rs2W8eoDW sDSOwq11lsV8xV+DdKu04Yf6BoA9sMA+TOLng= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DA94A81.6070800@post.cybercity.dk> References: <4DA8AF29.9060903@post.cybercity.dk> <4DA94A81.6070800@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 16:09:31 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Booting OSX into live profile From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <0edBwD.A.E_.dYErNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109007 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 14:09:33 +0000 (UTC) you can also add the korg usb nano kontrol,its prety much preconfigrued withAbleton,so you can cotrol every channels vol,pan,mute etc.also the the RME mixers phone channels seem to be already pre assigned to the nanos 1 fader,if u turn the rme midi on,thrn you can just link your master outputs and control the overall volume. A nice and portable solution as well. Luis On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 9:51 AM, van Sinn wrote= : > Hehe, yes, it is sometimes a small world with parallel thinking.. > > Actually, I'm considering using an iPad for controls, which will serve ot= her > purposes as well, like a DAW app with 'motorized' faders. > Pretty amazing the number of applications that are popping up for this, l= ike > DAW controls, live recording and live apps, holders for keyboard, mounts = for > drumkits et al.. > > A Mini it is, off to the bay I go. > > Thanks to all for replies ;) > /van > > > Eric James Dearatanha wrote: >> >> Hey vin, >> >> I actually have a similar setup in my rack... The Mac mini booting to >> live. So fun huh? >> If you want to monitor i suggest mimo 7in USB powered monitors to have o= n >> hand incase you need emergency repatching... They have a touch screen >> version that works pretty well... You could definitely manage. But i kee= p >> one of the Bluetooth trackpads handy as they are much faster to work wit= h. >> Both can easily stow away in back of rack invisibly. >> There are awesome elastic advantages to having the Mac mini with differe= nt >> vst and au in a program like live or main stage. But for raw CPU efficie= ncy >> Per is right about stand alone units. You can also use iPad/iPhone to >> control your midi gear with touch osc and a combination of other things = ( I >> use osculator as the osc midi translator, then midi patch bay program to >> route osculator to the hardware ) so many fun possibilities.. >> >> >> Hope this helps... >> >> Eric mogli >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Apr 15, 2011, at 1:48 PM, van Sinn wrote: >> >> >>> Being a home musician, and as such not needing/wanting real amps/cabs, >>> and thus using convolution/IR's, I'm thinking why not simply add a Mac = Mini >>> plus my Fireface400 to my combined guitar/bass rig, and have it boot >>> straight into a a profile setup for live usage. >>> >>> The reason being that I often just wanna play a Bit, and as such would >>> prefer not having to have a montor attached, log in, click to setup... >>> In other words, I'd want to be able to turn on the rig, and have OSX bo= ot >>> into a default live profile. >>> When wanting to actually do DAW works, I'd log in and terminate the liv= e >>> profile (preferably have the login mechanism do this). >>> >>> I'm not familiar with the various live packages, like Ableton Live. >>> Anyone done this sort of setup? =A0Then please elaborate.. ;) >>> >>> >>> -- >>> rgds, >>> van Sinn > > > -- > rgds, > van Sinn > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 18 14:10:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 814F218349D; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 14:10:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Wj5toHsnlFUUdnBx5eefRAi/rUU/lZ578Cu+/ohhN48=; b=k0n+XeybcP7cqFlj3FSV4D4nrCCdD1x4NhxDnNxScvHzaUXKYzaNz5XEquGtj1vbBr a7EGSP4uSpMALJCUWnE/bohSbZ1UZkn0KnVp4t0tmZxK7yw6Hn8J5Zp+iQ/ww9zu+TyP 6yacE40jSIVJJpehKGgPBQmdMv0Z+ZCqZcTxs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bPWhaMqtzSu9azzATEPqmWm4DwsA8j4FHwcSse+xmrwhIaZHncLWP9cbGqqfcKxROr exjwV2ChdEWBJaeZNlQTKwNijRLvfp1xryJa/spjdw6yfxiVQl30F0NENVhyD5AZ4eOM CtUfwBb+yH41t7mU+/T4B18NhIyQkjPiwNego= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1F84778E-1896-498F-A343-40C0855AB04D@gmail.com> References: <1F84778E-1896-498F-A343-40C0855AB04D@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 16:10:47 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Recomended fast USB hubs for Imac From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <_-Dbi.A.nDB.pZErNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109008 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 14:10:49 +0000 (UTC) great tip Todd, was thinking of that a swell,putting all the non important to the hubs and drive directly to the mac. cheers Luis On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > Sorry I forgot to recommend one but I think as long as it's powered and your just using it for accessories it should be fine. > > > On Apr 18, 2011, at 9:18 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > >> ok gang,so ive runned out of usbs in the back of my Imac,after pers >> recomendation i also bought the soundtoys plugin bundel which is >> absolutely awesome but requires a usb authorization stick to be >> plugged in > > > > > > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 18 14:13:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DFB418349D; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 14:13:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1303135993; bh=y/H1KIMRq23lM3djTEqhpfKzZSFe8M5+txqfF5HRNUc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5TWeQRI+k09S6i2qyFq3xM25E4Mr72ULKiaq444mcUGyWGRK5aT/dm0lQgX5ZGfLZYE2yU9YsZ4zDCNzvVWcrvrBrsCLTVK9i+AXxLnMfhbTTId7CoAXqcq8cAPeGTZYWUA7u0jeQby7SMBveiIf/y8do3760svFAS9V+O9Hbls= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3PKmtXlDKpr5tJGw2YHMVdRU8VkdtyODcG11ACJ7Axua32QjlO5R8U8KKH4eAGafZuGPX8pl/MMPAPhbEM0XI/vW+fprq9HdMZDy1SbnmVQ7LiAXkfwyXkcV+zT+gDzBkQFfqhdkoUxuFfVMUHwF6WYB27wVUicL1oGGpRA/Y44=; Message-ID: <564145.68306.qm@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: BoS7QJMVM1nxxGtThZdP4_zRXvQM11ceQ.LGVt4JcSvz4OV 0a9l2WsBsUlDNwlBVek1yMuWP1dUq92.19r2DNRWPozVMxcY5tJQcy2kH4LY FPCmmu63q.KWouTEvikOLO4GWC8orp73p70qFLdjhGP6278UOMZruNSjXEHk 6zoumSE5d1.7FkFL0__rr3qpFVrYqFUbVDYNK3h607ho6CYHoFEW7asm8XRz KvmJa60aoctafbQ03BZ.gP3rFL3jOvqUOwQugXeDJ52C3aYy4Bh1SZ7wvyKJ A5jNod1I0cLmw.TRBmFMK31pGAijc.GmTVDxmKK0F4ZD.PDPt9fw.NkepRMg lBWwKGnLfII_YOeWfXsumZIvqpWdGLyExgxoP_NIOwnEQdk1R3aXrf5N9UVM KnUBvuh_ecH5_Vas- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/12.0.2 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 07:13:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: OT: Eventide Space - an amazing amount of reverb effects! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-918736908-1303135993=:68306" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109009 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 14:13:14 +0000 (UTC) --0-918736908-1303135993=:68306 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's the unit seems to go from ABCD-Z without EFG.... =A0 Like Room, Plate, Spring, Hall--------->SPACE and beyond! No "Cathedral" ev= en. =A0 Anyone want to trade for an Alesis Quardraverb II? :) =A0 From: mark francombe Subject: Re: OT: Eventide Space - an amazing amount of reverb effects! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 9:49 AM On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Paul Richards wrote: I am having serious difficulty finding a standard reverb patch on the Space= ! Ha ha, you make that sound like a BAD thing! --=20 Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --0-918736908-1303135993=:68306 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It's the unit seems to go from ABCD-Z wi= thout EFG....
 
Like Room, Plate, Spring, Hall--------->SPACE and beyond! No "Cathe= dral" even.
 
Anyone want to trade for an Alesis Quardraverb II? :)
 

From: mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
Subject: Re= : OT: Eventide Space - an amazing amount of reverb effects!
To: Loopers-= Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 9:49 AM
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Paul Richards <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com> wr= ote:
I am havin= g serious difficulty finding a standard reverb patch on the Space!

Ha ha, you make that sound like a BAD thing!
<= BR>--
Mark Francombe
= www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094=
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--0-918736908-1303135993=:68306-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 18 14:29:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 72B8E183486; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 14:29:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=67PPgUc0CtgM8E27DXTM5SVmNQEiZYYnqhTvr1M71DI= c=1 sm=1 a=NnQ32kyOf5QA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=CNxbVC3+Q4TMjpjfeHDQxw==:17 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=gB28bEPOAAAA:8 a=VFLBUs1HAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=EzJUUNTIAAAA:8 a=sUnrLJFsl5Vs0EFr0okA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=CNxbVC3+Q4TMjpjfeHDQxw==:117 Message-Id: <0924C946-A345-42B4-BF09-DA6B5F3CBA8A@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT: Eventide Space - an amazing amount of reverb effects! Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 07:29:26 -0700 References: <354392.55158.qm@web36706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109010 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 14:29:28 +0000 (UTC) I agree. I've been seriously looing into this unit. IMHO, you don't buy an Eventide to get your average "standard" guitar reverb sound. On Apr 18, 2011, at 6:49 AM, mark francombe wrote: > On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Paul Richards > wrote: > I am having serious difficulty finding a standard reverb patch on > the Space! > > Ha ha, you make that sound like a BAD thing! > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 18 14:49:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A4901834AB; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 14:49:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GYBNS+D/wxPNQPCXQrpceyfwN9FD4Y74mSgPxtob4yc=; b=ejkIr1blPUpD9p6u8p93UFjouKmPPabAHrV/2Z4wX2DoA3Gg+rDcG68Quv4oGaz3BG cIYOtqQKE3ZISl8MIv0HpOk/OE4I2z3OD9evdCBZOS3asG9TRLaKy/CH8sMBK0DIGzbo 6djOaJDjIBmjD3weB35zV0tGUcLOGkaq3y240= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sC1Y/3IZit3kAWLdhdv5y4asTrqY5tT3sk1SanzxcG9+UueIS6dJOiihCOVr9A9zHE aaV9htXHFdRqhnpFjK787kJN7+hIQp7GvODwMHHLgWMZAW8WdOZGohJ9QHYTHEKVAF00 37XeZFNrYEbVtZYAoADQOHtlI5v4kZi8af5Nk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 08:49:18 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Monolith demo released From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109011 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 14:49:19 +0000 (UTC) As Sylvain suggested, a Mac port please? Let us know as soon as you have one you want tested; I'm especially interested in tools that can be used with minimal Mac horsepower, what with two little DELL Hackintoshes that are NOT "screaming machines" (one has 2GB of RAM, the other has 1GB). Thanks! Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 6:34 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > Sorry about the lack of readability Sylvain - I'm using a template and > there's limited editability on the contrast front. A new website is in th= e > pipeline but will be a while=A0 and I will bear in mind your comments on = the > flash build too. > The mac port is being looked into - I have a contact but need to iron out > bugs in this version first. > Thanks for your feedback though. > > Peace > > > Gareth@Sentientfx -=A0 Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > > > >> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 08:24:06 -0400 >> Subject: Re: Monolith demo released >> From: sylvain.trombone@gmail.com >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> no joy for the mac? >> (btw, all flash website is not ideal... not very accessible for those >> of us with crappy eyesight who usually resize text to make it more >> readable, to say nothing of search engine optimization...) >> Sylvain >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Gareth Whittock >> wrote: >> > Some of you instrument expanding types might be interested to try out >> > the >> > beta demo... I need feedback! >> > Incidentally, I've been using the 10sec stereo delay as a sort of loop= er >> > on >> > it. You can play a sound into the loop, change sounds to add more, pla= y >> > over >> > the top, change loop length etc. It's all tempo synchable too - >> > theoretically... :-) >> > I'm writing the manual currently so it my be a bit confusing at first.= .. >> > >> > Peace >> > >> > Gareth@Sentientfx -=A0 Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com= / >> > >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 18 15:00:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3BCF41834A4; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 15:00:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=PmwmGwM7BqNWi+rCDimnr2qlJYzX05f9A0M7xf/0ioU=; b=EaOgD4CGM9iA6zFgEvhOCU1Cz7fpNMI146CLQUip66vOIvnbCoKAzEfU/pSb8d0NQu yMSzTeN2FV9/1KZqUO83pKBA2AOlMTU7S0M8W5ylIj4f/BrDp+NQs1LCImCnMLP48j/U hgLeU021Q5aP3RH7DCiFpY4EtZjIQixrbyJKk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Xrr4dDQPRvMVYXb+VN4Dop97uzEPrCIbn752urnKWbMvOjB09TmSII4RY+m9GtseQv f3hu1OVPp3TifEDhHKXZfiEWtmnzVit0lqXbgdMY9BUt9G4ffL7Hx/NzNxFfmyziTirA bt+h2x9fkjiqqc+uOeaMo3CkeeK+Rjp2gbdCs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4DABF402.7020900@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 10:00:04 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EDP and Octatrack? How to post-process loops? From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec5430a1a8ec42704a132a5fd Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109012 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 15:00:11 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec5430a1a8ec42704a132a5fd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable *Andy*: I'm having trouble figuring out how exactly to route everything. I currently run: Guitar -> Effects-> Aux Main out -> Rane Mixer EDP -> Aux My effects are in the AUX of the mackie, spit the outs to the rane, which has the EDP in its AUX. Essentially, run the effects in parallel on my mackie, then run the edp in parallel on my rane. When I try to run the EDP back into the mackie, all of the samples start getting really muddy, and the stereo -> mono -> stereo doesn't sound good. I can't figure out a good way of getting the EDP to run parallel of my effects. I need to feed aux1 to aux 2, but that isn't possible. *Anders:* * * I wouldn't solely be using the octatrack as an effects unit :) Here's an example of what I want to do: Send reverse reverb into EDP -> Spit EDP into Octatrack ->add some bit crushing (track a) ->send track a to track b, add a filter ->send track b (filtered/crushed) to track c (add delay) Just an example. But, with a sampler, I could sample the EDP loop, add effects, drop the effected loop to a new track, and repeat the process up t= o eight times....right? What will allow me to do this? On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 4:13 AM, Anders Bergdahl < anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com> wrote: > As both an EDP and OctaTrack user i would think that there is no way > effects is going to replace the octa track, it's an 8 track sampler that > allows you do do sequenced sound processing GREAT fun. It's more Abelton > live in a box with cool effects than "just" an effects box. > Now the Octatrack is still in Beta, OS 1.0 is due sometime before summer > and they have promised a looping machine that we will probably have durin= g > Q3 so the octa is growing. > I have not used it with the EDP yet, my plan is to route "clean" guitar t= o > input A on the octa, EDP out to input C that way I can chose to sample > either the guitar or teh EDP. Wath i will eventually do is to find away t= o > also feed the Octatrack into the EDP.. not sure how to manage that. > Anyway, the octatrock is great looping fun on it's own. The last few mont= hs > I have not toucher the EDP, every time i felt like looping i have used th= e > Octa, and it=E4s also to learn the beast. 3separate LFO's (and you can ev= en > create your own shapes) a lot of great effects (the delay can work as a m= ini > looper) pitch shift, ratechange (speed, seamless to full reverse... and a= ll > cool seqouncing to create rhythmic sound effects (you can for example > trigger a sample on step 1, reverse it on step 5, pitch shift it on 9 add > delay on step 11 and now you can LIVE record all your tweaks.. then you > can re sample the result to a new track, record something else on the > tweaked track and be surprised by tha sound.. the octatrack is very much = an > instrument in it self, much like the EDP. > I have a few posted experiments on soundcloud featuring the octatrack as = a > live looper. > This is the latest track (i cheat on this one by having a drum sample > looped, i have tweaked it a bit) all the rest is live looping and sound > manipulating.. (it became a instrumental version of Spoonful, the Howling > Wolf classic) > > http://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/a-spoonful-of-loops > > There are a lot of other track there as well (with no prerecorded loops), > So Marcus get an Octatrack !! It's a STEEP learning curve and sometimes > frustrating, but in my opinion worth it.. > > Anders > > > Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 09:19:14 +0100 > > From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: EDP and Octatrack? How to post-process loops? > > > > > hi Marcus, > > > > hmm...to achieve *exactly* what you asked there, > > what you'd need is > > > > Guitar -> Effects -> EDP -> Effects > > > > ;-) > > > > If you want to resample the effected loop it's > > possible to use a mixer and re-route the post fx > > back to the EDP. (or route the edp o/p to the input of the pre-fx). > > > > Has the advantages that you can re-process as many times as you like > > (while saving the original), > > you can seemlessly resample(which is awkward otherwise) > > ...and cost wise you'll have plenty of > > cash left over. > > > > --bcaec5430a1a8ec42704a132a5fd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy: I'm having trouble figuring out how exactly to route every= thing.

I currently run:
Guitar ->
=A0=A0 =A0 =A0 Effects-> Aux
=A0=A0 =A0 =A0 Main out -> Ra= ne Mixer
=A0=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 EDP -> Aux

= My effects are in the AUX of the mackie, spit the outs to the rane, which h= as the EDP in its AUX. Essentially, run the effects in parallel on my macki= e, then run the edp in parallel on my rane.

When I try to run the EDP back into the mackie, all of = the samples start getting really muddy, and the stereo -> mono -> ste= reo doesn't sound good.

I can't figure out= a good way of getting the EDP to run parallel of my effects. I need to fee= d aux1 to aux 2, but that isn't possible.

Anders:

I wouldn= 't solely be using the octatrack as an effects unit :)

Here's an example of what I want to do:
Send reverse= reverb into EDP ->
Spit EDP into Octatrack
=A0=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ->add some bit= crushing (track a)
=A0=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ->send track a to track= b, add a filter
=A0=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ->send track b (filtered/c= rushed) to track c (add delay)

Just an example. But, with a sampler, I could sample th= e EDP loop, add effects, drop the effected loop to a new track, and repeat = the process up to eight times....right?

What will = allow me to do this?

On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 4:13 AM, Anders= Bergdahl <anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com> wrote:
As both an EDP and OctaTrack user i would = think that there is no way effects is going to replace the octa track, it&#= 39;s an 8 track sampler that allows you do do sequenced sound processing GR= EAT fun. It's more Abelton live in a box with cool effects than=A0"= ;just"=A0an =A0effects box.
Now the Octatrack is still in Beta, OS 1.0 is due sometime before summer an= d they have promised a looping machine that we will probably have during Q3= so the octa is growing.=A0
I have not used it with the EDP yet, my plan is to route "clean" = guitar to input A on the octa, EDP out to input C that way I can chose to s= ample either the guitar or teh EDP. Wath i will eventually do is to find aw= ay to also feed the Octatrack into the EDP.. not sure how to manage that.
Anyway, the octatrock is great loopin= g fun on it's own. The last few months I have not toucher the EDP,=A0ev= ery time=A0i felt like looping i have used the Octa, and it=E4s also to lea= rn the beast. 3separate LFO's (and you can even create your own shapes)= a lot of great effects (the delay can work as a mini looper) pitch shift, = ratechange (speed,=A0seamless=A0to full reverse... and all cool seqouncing = to create=A0rhythmic=A0sound effects (you can for example trigger a sample = on step 1, reverse it on step 5, pitch shift it on 9 add delay on step 11 a= nd now you can LIVE record all your tweaks.. then you can=A0re sample=A0the= result to a new track, record something else on the tweaked track and be s= urprised by tha sound.. the octatrack is very much an instrument in it self= , much like the EDP.=A0
I have a few posted experiments on so= undcloud featuring the octatrack as a live looper.
This is the latest track (i cheat on this one by = having a drum sample looped, i have tweaked it a bit) all the rest is live = looping and sound manipulating.. (it became a instrumental version of Spoon= ful, the Howling Wolf classic)

T= here are a lot of other track there as well (with no prerecorded loops),=A0=
So Marcus get an Octatrack !! It's a STEEP learning curve and some= times frustrating, but in my opinion worth it..=A0

Anders

> Date= : Mon, 18 Apr 2011 09:19:14 +0100
> From: akbu= tler@tiscali.co.uk
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Subject: Re: EDP and Octatrack? How to post-process loops?

>
> hi Marcus,
>
> hmm...to achieve *exactly* wh= at you asked there,
> what you'd need is
>
> Guitar = -> Effects -> EDP -> Effects
>
> ;-)
>
> If you want to resample the effected loop it's
> possible to= use a mixer and re-route the post fx
> back to the EDP. (or route th= e edp o/p to the input of the pre-fx).
>
> Has the advantages = that you can re-process as many times as you like
> (while saving the original),
> you can seemlessly resample(which= is awkward otherwise)
> ...and cost wise you'll have plenty of> cash left over.
>


--bcaec5430a1a8ec42704a132a5fd-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 18 15:13:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DBA3818349D; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 15:13:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1303139603; bh=0KiEoUnVesDV2EBKZ9LujBPtolM3vFRCa3DbSyD/Vqs=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bK2dDRbJdGjauewmI/rTMmRuaf8OI3v2vrB0yiYoWI+Q04Ba7JbJHIq/3I3fm0KF0id5m8ssbATLV2tpP1wOIPBdJtkMcvBNoKy9Y6NH6LmzFzr+YTjUb4UsnftP73YOBZXwA2N3tA6yt6Hg3xt/rV/6lvBllJirpN4xncp74OU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=k7y/xnUN3Ell0/qTbSQBd144TA376ObJ/qtHqihEv9DhskfK8QCx+2l78aXhNXtRL8UIMZLlJpJl+i78T+53X/C8W3ULHyoq/zJhEV8xubwFR3voW5nBdKivDIVxhAfKKwzgGWhJCxaZq3if3wWIuxbBnsphivylvLw9k3GMTiA=; Message-ID: <661754.14176.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: .aWdiZwVM1kmjZpYjYOgCqb.poACdoVZ6EgQdtmJmXQdCQ3 5gnvwe5pr.zF0pYya6J_ms9FIlSSToGHrHIhrc6zcb3c7JE3EfXBDx_3W2tp R8vKe_niro7hXSI2iztde8T27Ndgssh9ktTUZ_J3IwnrabisCfFSXq5MZTfa FO_aWmvJl0uJ0opGLXBehSyEahgA84LgScC1efw0qFK5M092zLVDAMy8P2Wz FVBsrJ.jQ6Nk_q7USHqbzDAYcb4E.xcZFm5j_MKF2bBrgpU3lNgfj4sQQbcC 7w0.33FsqCkv5RpTp5MpYXHwDm.8d0iClSztEwnwJsjHQ4TRcDuBazaS0NwX vLHDzvgunKA2itIuqh9DyGpXOZuHQtsJSopA0Dsbh0S3QGQ.mrIS6LtMRKDc bycyfJsDbtyBNqQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/12.0.2 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 08:13:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: OT: Eventide Space - an amazing amount of reverb effects! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <0924C946-A345-42B4-BF09-DA6B5F3CBA8A@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1691495113-1303139603=:14176" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109013 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 15:13:25 +0000 (UTC) --0-1691495113-1303139603=:14176 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (I've been seriously looing into this unit.) =A0 A commode would actually work better. --- On Mon, 4/18/11, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: From: tEd =AE KiLLiAn Subject: Re: OT: Eventide Space - an amazing amount of reverb effects! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 10:29 AM I agree. I've been seriously looing into this unit. IMHO, you don't buy an Eventide to get your average "standard" guitar rever= b sound. On Apr 18, 2011, at 6:49 AM, mark francombe wrote: > On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Paul Richards wrote: > I am having serious difficulty finding a standard reverb patch on the Spa= ce! >=20 > Ha ha, you make that sound like a BAD thing! >=20 > --Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe --0-1691495113-1303139603=:14176 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(I've been seriously looing into this un= it.)
 
A commode would actually work better.

--- On Mon, 4/18/11, t= Ed =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:

From: tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net&= gt;
Subject: Re: OT: Eventide Space - an amazing amount of reverb effect= s!
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Monday, April 18, 20= 11, 10:29 AM

I agree.

I've been seriously looing into this= unit.

IMHO, you don't buy an Eventide to get your average "standard= " guitar reverb sound.


On Apr 18, 2011, at 6:49 AM, mark francom= be wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Paul Richards <paulrichard_rocks@= yahoo.com> wrote:
> I am having serious difficulty finding a s= tandard reverb patch on the Space!
>
> Ha ha, you make that so= und like a BAD thing!
>
> --Mark Francombe
> www.markfra= ncombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no
> t= witter @markfrancombe

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--0015174948566b491f04a1335cee-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 18 16:02:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 33FE018349D; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 16:02:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjIIANNfrE1Hq+9F/2dsb2JhbACXc41ExHeFcQSFYowV X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.64,233,1301875200"; d="scan'208";a="117487169" X-Previous-IP: 71.171.239.69 Message-Id: From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: OT: FS: Line 6 HD500 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 11:05:58 -0500 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109015 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 16:02:04 +0000 (UTC) Anyone interested in my Line 6 HD500 (yup, it has a looper...a pretty good one. I'm pretty sure it's got the same, or at least similar, specs to the M13 looper)? I really, really dig it, but I have to pay the taxman *major* bucks. Just thought I'd toss it out there if anyone wanted to grab it. I'm thinking $400 shipped in the US. Lemme know. Thanks, Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 18 18:37:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBDF418349F; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 18:37:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 608442343/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.28.179/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.28.179 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmECALODrE1YbRyz/2dsb2JhbAAMl2mXKrtChXEEkWk X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.64,233,1301871600"; d="scan'208";a="608442343" Message-ID: <4DAC850D.3080801@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 19:38:05 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP and Octatrack? How to post-process loops? References: <4DABF402.7020900@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109016 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 18:37:53 +0000 (UTC) marcus kirby wrote: > *Andy*: I'm having trouble figuring out how exactly to route everything. > > I currently run: > Guitar -> > Effects-> Aux > Main out -> Rane Mixer > EDP -> Aux > > My effects are in the AUX of the mackie, spit the outs to the rane, > which has the EDP in its AUX. Essentially, run the effects in parallel > on my mackie, then run the edp in parallel on my rane. > > When I try to run the EDP back into the mackie, all of the samples start > getting really muddy, 'cos everything's in parallel? > and the stereo -> mono -> stereo doesn't sound good. well, with the edp the only way to escape it monoising is to use another EDP in stereo config. > > I can't figure out a good way of getting the EDP to run parallel of my > effects. I need to feed aux1 to aux 2, but that isn't possible. well lets just use one mixer, you could run a Y-cable from an Aux to go to both fx and EDP. Then the EDP comes back on a mixer channel an gets sent to that same Aux...but not to the main bus. You'll be hearing the EDP thru the fx. Also, send the guitar into a channel, and then route to the Aux, and not to the main. The fx should also come into the mixer on a return, and be routed to the Now what happens is that you can use the EDP Timecopy function to turn the existing unaffected sample on the EDP into an effected one. Loop1 will keep your dry audio, and loop2 will be created with the fx applied. As soon as that resample is over, you'll want to deal with the fact that the EDP loop2 running through the FX, either by re-routing, or changing the fx program. I hope this helps, ...I'm assuming you *don't* want to hear all those different tracks at once....that's going to give the muddiness you wanna avoid. What you'll get if you use this method is successive edp loops which you can switch between (or overwrite). You'll essentially lose the option to overdub on the edp unless you reroute to avoid the feedback loop. If this appeals, I can explain the TimeCopy thing fully. andy > Here's an example of what I want to do: > Send reverse reverb into EDP -> > Spit EDP into Octatrack > ->add some bit crushing (track a) > ->send track a to track b, add a filter > ->send track b (filtered/crushed) to track c (add delay) > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 18 18:44:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0C7318349F; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 18:44:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3IkzqbsUaJYrs4RZC7wzCFH1rzIUJ9RzmFUMciqmsvo=; b=RPWIXrpWVmv933tDVEKEnbaPd8Uaqi/Rb4Y+XZkKVyfOJGXY2Fj7NyPhqp0m3XlGkY 2IyhinghfuNlXdmmMnQAAuwmWfbEHJUWx6Uo8bkF/aGLbWPra0d+w9XSpKobpEWY1J4P G0aTEFxghwDnj99MnZrj5ulPWUxKycdIABH/A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bKmZELewxCNpmWz8pZ9bAom66LwyUwzPBRseQJFf5aRrpMSEisiF4vksad8GEhyGuh 086ucbnJ/aQiXg1/Y73+bPFiBhT8sKsNV/WgLF86618l7j509Dmj9bR6sJoWLosbMdJM o97bj3wXdIOJv+7/qUju1EF/mzYhBWfuLsYJE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 20:44:02 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: vCZdszQaofqNOAVLwOa7rwG77Fo Message-ID: Subject: Two new Kaoss things reviews and gripes... To: loopers-delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109017 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 18:44:25 +0000 (UTC) Hi ho guys, I just bought 2 kaos thingys, a Kaossilator Pro and the new KPQuad: I wrote a review and some irritations on my website, but I thought Id crosspost here, seeing as the traffic at my site is pretty slow... ok non existant! ha ha Its just Kaoss here! Posted on April 19, 2011 by mark I have just bought 2 Kaoss pads! Im loving them=85 with some reservations/wishes! I have NOT been so interested in them before now, as.. A) Im a guitarist with only 2 hands. Although I have seen the thing where they have been inserted into some guitars, but only as USB trackpads I think=85 B) They are quite a bit of desk-space and Ive been more into space-saving racks tingys Anyway, I have had my eye on the Kaosscilator, as a synth that can add a quick sound into the looping mix, in a pretty improv way, not much pre-planning. But was put off by the original cos of no midi sync=85 But along comes the Kaosscilator PRO. Loving it, great sounds, fast to use. Even Nikolas (5 yr old) is knocking up some pretty cool things on it. It has 8 banks of sounds, divided into leads, Acoustic, basses, chords, soundFX, drums, patterns and vocoder. ALL of the sounds I can use, some for more silly weird shit than others admittedly, but basically no fluff. Picking the right scale took some time for me, nothing quite worked with what I play on the guitar, (not knowing exactly what THAT scale is really!!!) In the end I wrote down MY scale, and found that Aolian was the closest, now it always sounds great with what Im doing on the guitarm and I dont have to worry about WHAT to play ha ha=85 wonderful time we live in=85 I think that the way to save and recall sounds, and loops onto the card is a bit headachy, and I cant quite figure out HOW I wanna do that, Im not sure that Ill save any loops though=85 well maybe=85 maybe Ill save some drum loops, if I have made them from scratch=85 but TBH I dont thank that will happen untill it gets undo=85 its too easy to make a mistake, for me to want to KEEP that loop=85 Id much rather make loops on the flay and accept the individual quirks I create.. (rather have UNDO tho=85 see below) Of course ALL saving systems are limited when all you have is a little green alpha-numeric screen and not a =93proper=94 LCD with good space to write you patch names=85 And then the Kaossilator QUAD. I got instead of the KP3, cos I was interested in 4 simultaneous effects, as I wanted something to put right on the end of my chain, that EVERYTHING, guitar, guitar synth, loopers (3) and the Kaosscilator would go through. After a few days play I have a few things I would like Korg to take note of, and CHANGE. In the Kaosscillator Pro, that can send out a new firmware update, as a fix, with the Quad, it will have to be another version of the box, as the Quad has no midi or USB.. or nutting, so no updating there (See gripes below)!! Heres the Gripes: Kaoscilator. 1. NO UNDO!!! Please fix this!! I need to be able to fuck up an over dub on a loop and then go back one step to before the fuck-up. Even if it was only implemented on the PRESS REC button way of recording, so if you didnt like a loop, you could hit del after insted of Rec one more time, and then remove the new layer=85 2. Need a quicker way to delete all, to clean slate=85 currently its Hold Del, press on all tracks then fumble to the little flashinh write button=85 whats wrong with a long (2 sec) press of Delete? or Delete AND REC for 2 secs? 3. Hissy on the mic channel when you are NOT kaossing, might just be my mike, but why is the sound OK when I am effecting it? 4. The main criticism is something I wouldn=92t have known about if I hadn=92t read some Kaoss forums. Apparently the ORIGINAL Yellow or pink one, apparently had a feature where you could get ARP PATTERNS=85 where are they on the PRO version? Never remove a feature for the PRO version=85 ADD features! If this can be implemented, the ARP PATTERNS could be sorted into banks, like the sounds, but maybe you must press ARP while you press a bank to access them?, once pressed, the ARP button could flash showing you are in pattern select mode, you select one, and then its loaded, and maybe the slider selects variations on that Pattern? 5. Just a gripe about the screen=85 Can anyone else memorize 200 patches=85 (not something they can fix NOW tho) KP4 1. Obvious but=85 no midi!! No midi synch (Tho I must say that=92s not a prob as it syncs wonderfully to input audio, and sometimes its nice to take it off auto sync and hand crank the bpm button.. cool) NO the real reason, is that there=92s no update possible, so what we have.. we are stuck with! 2. Why OH WHY??? Cant they have kept the KP3 =93record touch=94 function (or whatever its called). Being able to record your finger movements and play them back would ahve solved for me the =93well you are a guitarist=94 thing=85 BUT.. I hear that on the KP3 its not possible to sync to the beat via midi or audio, this is silly, I would LOVE to be able to record a finger motion and have that motion =93quantise=94 to the loop. Are we sure it doesnt do that? Ill have to borrow a kp3 to check=85 Again.. why TAKE AWAY features?? STUPIDO! 3. theres no 3rd gripe! Overall I LOVE thse 2 boxes, I just need to memorize 200 patch numbers! --=20 Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 18 19:50:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A64C18349D; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 19:50:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DAC960C.3050201@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 12:50:36 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RP Collier CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: looping on npr References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5zuBnB.A.YM.ZYJrNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109018 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 19:50:49 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, RP Collier wrote: > > Tuneyards on Sunday All Things Considered 4/16: > > http://www.npr.org/2011/04/17/135443035/tune-yards-expanding-and-grabbing-attention This is really cool stuff. I wonder if we could entice her to come out to the loopfest in October. thanks for posting, Senor Collier. Speaking of the devil, what are you up to these days? rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 18 20:02:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 75ADD183449; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 20:02:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DAC98D8.3090808@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:02:32 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RP Collier CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Ukulele Loop Dreams was looping on npr References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2u_kYD.A.Be.fjJrNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109019 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 20:02:39 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, RP Collier wrote: > Tuneyards on Sunday All Things Considered 4/16: > > http://www.npr.org/2011/04/17/135443035/tune-yards-expanding-and-grabbing-attention I also think it's very cool that she's recontextualizing the Ukulele. It resonates a lot with what I"ve been trying to do. I've been writing for the last 6 months on several four string instruments, including playing a lot of baritone Ukulele. Our own Daniel Thomas (a very accomplished guitarist/multi-instrumentalist) once told me that he thinks he learned more about harmony from playing a ukulele than by all of his guitar playing because of the fact that you have the ability to fret all four strings simultaneously. Interestingly enough, Joni Mitchell started her whole career by writing songs on a Baritone Ukulele that she bought for $36 because she didn't have enough money for a guitar. It's interesting that when you play one and really thing about modern songwriting, that the natural progression is to begin to retune it. I'm on this kick lately of tuning to a random open tuning and playing it as I go to eat my daily bagel before teaching. I give myself 10 minutes to learn how to play the new tuning (or at least find something interesting in it) and then another 10 minutes to write at least the bare bones of a song on the way home. In this way, I'm attempting to try to free myself of specific tuning concepts and be able to find whatever the instrument gives me to play simply. With it's range, you can get a couple of different sounding octaves from the instrument as a looping source and, of course, with 1/2 speed and 1/4 speed manipulations you can eek even more out of it. To add to all of that, I recently purchased a four string Ukulele bass instrument which has the body of a Baritone Uke, but has black silicon strings on it that make it sound somewhat close to an upright. A fantastic instrument. I'm saving to buy one that is fretless now. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 18 20:07:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D57918349D; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 20:07:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DAC99EC.7060506@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:07:08 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gareth Whittock CC: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Monolith demo released References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010908050903050803080407" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109020 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 20:07:14 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010908050903050803080407 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > Some of you instrument expanding types might be interested to try out > the beta demo... I need feedback! > Incidentally, I've been using the 10sec stereo delay as a sort of > looper on it. You can play a sound into the loop, change sounds to add > more, play over the top, change loop length etc. It's all tempo > synchable too - theoretically... :-) > I'm writing the manual currently so it my be a bit confusing at first... > > Peace > > Gareth@Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Very nice demo, Gareth. I'm excited to try this out! Congratulations! rick walker --------------010908050903050803080407 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote:
Some of you instrument expanding types might be interested to try out the beta demo... I need feedback!
Incidentally, I've been using the 10sec stereo delay as a sort of looper on it. You can play a sound into the loop, change sounds to add more, play over the top, change loop length etc. It's all tempo synchable too - theoretically... :-)
I'm writing the manual currently so it my be a bit confusing at first...

Peace

Gareth@Sentientfx -  Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/




 
Very nice demo, Gareth.   I'm excited to try this out!   Congratulations!

rick walker
--------------010908050903050803080407-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 18 20:09:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E117F18349F; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 20:09:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DAC9A7A.4040204@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:09:30 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fabio_A CC: "" Subject: Re: Looper from Spain "Naguall" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109021 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 20:09:37 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Fabio_A wrote: > Hey gang, > this morning I got an e.mail by a guy from Madrid, > asking me info about looping, so I drove him to the list. > Dont' know of he will subcribe, anyway he deserves a listening (IMHO). > Her's a nice live set. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l09vKUbhRgs > -f > www.eterogeneo.com I got a similar e-mail and invited him to the looping festival in October. Wow, he's really good and he's a multi-instrumentalist who's very good on several axes. I'm really impressed! rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 18 20:21:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 780AB18349F; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 20:21:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DAC9EBB.6070001@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 22:27:39 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Booting OSX into live profile References: <4DA8AF29.9060903@post.cybercity.dk> <4DA94A81.6070800@post.cybercity.dk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2hv0ZB.A.rBB.L1JrNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109022 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 20:21:31 +0000 (UTC) Yup, it's something like this I'm envisioning. I know about the nano, cute device. Either this or an iPad, we'll see.. First I'll want to land a Mac Mini or preferably a refurbished 2.53/2.66Ghz server (which with two disks is the better option for me), get the software setup, and take it from there. /m Louie Angulo wrote: > you can also add the korg usb nano kontrol,its prety much > preconfigrued withAbleton,so you can cotrol every channels > vol,pan,mute etc.also the the RME mixers phone channels seem to be > already pre assigned to the nanos 1 fader,if u turn the rme midi > on,thrn you can just link your master outputs and control the overall > volume. > A nice and portable solution as well. > Luis > > On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 9:51 AM, van Sinn wrote: > >>Hehe, yes, it is sometimes a small world with parallel thinking.. >> >>Actually, I'm considering using an iPad for controls, which will serve other >>purposes as well, like a DAW app with 'motorized' faders. >>Pretty amazing the number of applications that are popping up for this, like >>DAW controls, live recording and live apps, holders for keyboard, mounts for >>drumkits et al.. >> >>A Mini it is, off to the bay I go. >> >>Thanks to all for replies ;) >>/van >> >> >>Eric James Dearatanha wrote: >> >>>Hey vin, >>> >>>I actually have a similar setup in my rack... The Mac mini booting to >>>live. So fun huh? >>>If you want to monitor i suggest mimo 7in USB powered monitors to have on >>>hand incase you need emergency repatching... They have a touch screen >>>version that works pretty well... You could definitely manage. But i keep >>>one of the Bluetooth trackpads handy as they are much faster to work with. >>>Both can easily stow away in back of rack invisibly. >>>There are awesome elastic advantages to having the Mac mini with different >>>vst and au in a program like live or main stage. But for raw CPU efficiency >>>Per is right about stand alone units. You can also use iPad/iPhone to >>>control your midi gear with touch osc and a combination of other things ( I >>>use osculator as the osc midi translator, then midi patch bay program to >>>route osculator to the hardware ) so many fun possibilities.. >>> >>> >>>Hope this helps... >>> >>>Eric mogli >>> >>>Sent from my iPad >>> >>>On Apr 15, 2011, at 1:48 PM, van Sinn wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Being a home musician, and as such not needing/wanting real amps/cabs, >>>>and thus using convolution/IR's, I'm thinking why not simply add a Mac Mini >>>>plus my Fireface400 to my combined guitar/bass rig, and have it boot >>>>straight into a a profile setup for live usage. >>>> >>>>The reason being that I often just wanna play a Bit, and as such would >>>>prefer not having to have a montor attached, log in, click to setup... >>>>In other words, I'd want to be able to turn on the rig, and have OSX boot >>>>into a default live profile. >>>>When wanting to actually do DAW works, I'd log in and terminate the live >>>>profile (preferably have the login mechanism do this). >>>> >>>>I'm not familiar with the various live packages, like Ableton Live. >>>>Anyone done this sort of setup? Then please elaborate.. ;) >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>rgds, >>>>van Sinn -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 18 21:02:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9AA5E18349E; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 21:02:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=LG388EjIwmnRE/vJMJE0apjUdCKzeapOUwUcQ6XFns4= c=1 sm=1 a=1GmvzaAlhisA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=1mPEbzcIwNq/5QazqZV7BA==:17 a=b4KrJKo_AAAA:8 a=BhEGkrnqbNIrH0vJb1wA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=an2JWJtncgwA:10 a=Hnp9XK8TdPB1mfv4USUA:9 a=ei58QlTACByesckLMh0A:7 a=1mPEbzcIwNq/5QazqZV7BA==:117 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 17:02:03 -0400 (EDT) From: thetoyroom@charter.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <23247453.12fb82.12f6a6b8b2b.Webtop.42@charter.net> Subject: FS: Line 6 DL4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_5236246_2110599187.1303160523556" User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 42 X-Originating-IP: [12.195.92.82] Resent-Message-ID: <_71-K.A.B3B.MbKrNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109023 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 21:02:04 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_5236246_2110599187.1303160523556 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline hey guys... selling my trusty DL4. this is an oldie...purchased it right after they were released...been a trooper. local ad and pics are here: http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/msg/2332795691.html $150 shipped to con US for LD peeps. Paypal ok. regards, Rich ------=_Part_5236246_2110599187.1303160523556 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
hey guys...
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http:= //orangecounty.craigslist.org/msg/2332795691.html
$150 shipped to con US for LD peeps= .  Paypal ok.

regards,
Rich ------=_Part_5236246_2110599187.1303160523556-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 18 21:10:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BEE741834A1; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 21:10:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=67PPgUc0CtgM8E27DXTM5SVmNQEiZYYnqhTvr1M71DI= c=1 sm=1 a=1GmvzaAlhisA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=1mPEbzcIwNq/5QazqZV7BA==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=b4KrJKo_AAAA:8 a=BhEGkrnqbNIrH0vJb1wA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=an2JWJtncgwA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=Hnp9XK8TdPB1mfv4USUA:9 a=xPHcUnJ5_-iTmW-LGcAA:7 a=1mPEbzcIwNq/5QazqZV7BA==:117 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 17:10:24 -0400 (EDT) From: thetoyroom@charter.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <13bb236a.12fd36.12f6a732f4e.Webtop.42@charter.net> Subject: RE: FS: Line 6 DL4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_5238461_1344313591.1303161024326" User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 42 X-Originating-IP: [12.195.92.82] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109024 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 21:10:25 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_5238461_1344313591.1303161024326 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ahhh....craigslist is moving fast. sold pending payment. sorry! Rich On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 2:02 PM, thetoyroom@charter.net wrote: hey guys... selling my trusty DL4. this is an oldie...purchased it right after they were released...been a trooper. local ad and pics are here: http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/msg/2332795691.html $150 shipped to con US for LD peeps. Paypal ok. regards, Rich ------=_Part_5238461_1344313591.1303161024326 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
ahhh....craigslist is moving fast.  sol= d pending payment.  sorry!
Rich


On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 2:02 PM, thetoyroom@charter.ne= t wrote:

 hey guys...
selling my t= rusty DL4.  this is an oldie...purchased it right after they were rele= ased...been a trooper.  local ad and pics are here:

http://orangecounty.craigs= list.org/msg/2332795691.html

$150 shipped to con US for LD peeps.  Paypal ok. =

regards, =
Rich
------=_Part_5238461_1344313591.1303161024326-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 18 22:30:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E08818349C; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 22:30:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=zUqQ2eogioz8lh+3uqjRe4Y1MWSUJU+U3b3PFzAwX18= c=1 sm=1 a=1GmvzaAlhisA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=1mPEbzcIwNq/5QazqZV7BA==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=b4KrJKo_AAAA:8 a=BhEGkrnqbNIrH0vJb1wA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=an2JWJtncgwA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=Hnp9XK8TdPB1mfv4USUA:9 a=EWo-kZhI4MABYWA0GKIA:7 a=1mPEbzcIwNq/5QazqZV7BA==:117 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 18:30:42 -0400 (EDT) From: thetoyroom@charter.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <4cd3d443.131096.12f6abcb3bb.Webtop.42@charter.net> Subject: RE: FS: Line 6 DL4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_5258912_297504274.1303165842352" User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 42 X-Originating-IP: [12.195.92.82] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109025 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 22:30:43 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_5258912_297504274.1303165842352 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline and another craigslist flakeout.... yummy! On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 2:10 PM, thetoyroom@charter.net wrote: ahhh....craigslist is moving fast. sold pending payment. sorry! Rich On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 2:02 PM, thetoyroom@charter.net wrote: hey guys... selling my trusty DL4. this is an oldie...purchased it right after they were released...been a trooper. local ad and pics are here: http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/msg/2332795691.html $150 shipped to con US for LD peeps. Paypal ok. regards, Rich ------=_Part_5258912_297504274.1303165842352 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
and another craigslist flakeout....
yummy!
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On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 2:10 PM, thetoyroom@ch= arter.net wrote:

 ahhh....craigslist is moving fast.  sold pending payment.=   sorry!
Rich

On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 2:02 PM, thetoyroom@charter.net wrote:
 hey guys... <= /FONT>
selling my trusty DL4.  thi= s is an oldie...purchased it right after they were released...been a troope= r.  local ad and pics are here:

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/msg/23327956= 91.html

$150 shipped to con US for LD peeps.  Paypal ok.

regards,
Rich
------=_Part_5258912_297504274.1303165842352-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 18 23:33:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2601B18349D; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 23:33:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=RFjM2F+P6leZSmmawFZdEsinZ1EgUIHB0iusts+YRSc=; b=WhzPOzLauQnKyORjIHf7mbjPEaA43BjF2xA4xr4rL0cQ3FuBq3vH9pfpHP//tzPo6z 0YJpc0CuLXevvchqw5J3Qcbz+fZWZ41rn85QfdcgGHvayALxBpQy5OR86HsvF64+2o6j ghhfQLjeMxrzTMB4fBxWAViLOl7zovv6cAIvk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=RH5Ha0pf0nuk4w5Q4GGbG6oCZqwF7kvQUb41oaI3hFC9ipsmTwDhzXNtjrDkXeaec2 vGbzxq8t5ICsH5GgabX9qC6t+r7cQdlT7ylClMk5x/XF4fwH6HPF9YgoiJP4n6SSdY6c r71tCc8jrONhfuQeYNPaqkMYgV3Jmd1mF81+8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 16:33:06 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: (OT) selling things on craigslist (was: FS: Line 6 DL4) From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <6ZD4_D.A.txE.1oMrNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109026 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 23:33:09 +0000 (UTC) My tales of craigslist flakeouts are legion. It's gotten to the point where I often don't want to bother trying to sell anything. My two favorite requests: 1) Can you "reserve" the item for me, then stay at home all day Saturday and Sunday, and I'll come by to look at the item if I have time? 2) Can you bring the items to my office in downtown San Francisco on Monday, and on my lunch break I'll peruse them and decide whether I want to buy them? However, it's great for giving things away. You just say "I'm available on this day and this day. I will not reserve it for you. Whoever comes and picks it up first gets it. You can call me to get a status update." -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 3:30 PM, wrote: > and another craigslist flakeout.... > yummy! > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 18 23:50:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 667B818349D; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 23:50:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=bQvXpi3xOrBvx2CH3Nk7yTyGIMANVRAv1f0oS7B4AqdR1Fskep7Q6/N/FKGSwcoV; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <21416548.1303169505831.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 16:31:45 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: re:craigslist scams... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd48da3adff73050b240d067f9fc102dec8cf2c98678957fd5f6350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.30 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109027 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 23:50:22 +0000 (UTC) while(still) trying to sell one of my lefty Strats -here is one of the more elaborate messages i got: > >>-----Forwarded Message----- >>>From: Jeff >>>Sent: Apr 13, 2011 6:38 PM >>>To: stanitarium@earthlink.net >>>Subject: Re: Fender Highway One Stratocaster - $500 (pacific heights) >>> >>>Hello, >>> >>>Thanks for the mail, i am presently in Houston on a Oil spillage >>>clean-up training course as a facility engineer of BP Oil Company. Am >>>ordering for this musical instrument because is urgently needed to be >>>delivered to my church for choir. >>> >>> I am on a world Oil spillage clean-up training programme, I am also a >>>UN worker, due to the nature of the training that is going on here, >>>visiting of website are restricted but I squeezed out time to check >>>this advert because I received mail from my church pastor that is >>>urgently needed that is why I send you an email regarding it. >>> >>> I can only send you a PayPal payment which protects me and you from >>>scam and fraud, I insisted on paypal because I don't have access to my >>>bank account online as I don't have internet banking, but I can pay >>>from my paypal account, as I have my bank account attached to it, >>> >>>I will need you to give me your paypal email address so I can make the >>>payments asap for the instrument and please, if you don't have paypal >>>account yet, it is very easy to set up, go to www.paypal.com and get >>>it set up , after you have set it up I will only need the e-mail >>>address you use for registration with paypal so as to put the money >>>through. >>> >>> I have a pick up agent that will come and pick the item up after you >>>cash the money >>> >>>Thanks From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 19 00:37:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F29018344B; Tue, 19 Apr 2011 00:37:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=67PPgUc0CtgM8E27DXTM5SVmNQEiZYYnqhTvr1M71DI= c=1 sm=1 a=F3DNnGUzW5MA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=QUJBK7MG68qrYqiFt245Ng==:17 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=OT3O6O8lAAAA:8 a=kGL4f-nDAAAA:20 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=gamaG0cJm4wxuCvx8QwA:9 a=OJr87TJhyHHWIsvIoJ8A:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=QUJBK7MG68qrYqiFt245Ng==:117 X-Auth-id: dGhldG95cm9vbUBjaGFydGVyLm5ldA== Subject: Re: (OT) selling things on craigslist (was: FS: Line 6 DL4) References: From: Richard Atkinson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8A306) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <5AFC947E-35AE-4BA5-ADEE-DBDF1E0E4887@charter.net> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 17:38:07 -0700 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109028 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 00:37:33 +0000 (UTC) I've been pretty lucky so far with the recent slew of stuff I've been cleani= ng out, thankfully. I don't suffer fools lightly, so even this kid who flake= d today got a quick "uh huh" and a hang up, while he wanted to chat about hi= s bank account 'predicament'. But, you know, at least he was nice, telling m= e how he was sure someone else would snap up my pedal, because I was selling= it for... "uh huh" CLICK Sent from my iPhone On Apr 18, 2011, at 4:33 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > My tales of craigslist flakeouts are legion. It's gotten to the point > where I often don't want to bother trying to sell anything. My two > favorite requests: >=20 > 1) Can you "reserve" the item for me, then stay at home all day > Saturday and Sunday, and I'll come by to look at the item if I have > time? >=20 > 2) Can you bring the items to my office in downtown San Francisco on > Monday, and on my lunch break I'll peruse them and decide whether I > want to buy them? >=20 > However, it's great for giving things away. You just say "I'm > available on this day and this day. I will not reserve it for you. > Whoever comes and picks it up first gets it. You can call me to get a > status update." >=20 > --=20 > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 3:30 PM, wrote: >> and another craigslist flakeout.... >> yummy! >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 19 02:29:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37B3B18349C; Tue, 19 Apr 2011 02:29:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WawDrqeK600eWQYVjdJaK0584RLpyyqO0Oh2Sl5qPJM=; b=MXJEBdkrHhq8CXFYa+b5P7B8fBo/f5yO2MhlQjLbvfqCQHbze4DMxMi7GjtgKlU/uX dQs7yHdMHc0fZmgAdBLQSeeHffwDFtxszpeJZeCkpllLyyZKAe+3ceDZzdkiyA3Tdy71 +c6/37aranNrbRJG++KyJeika3/sfV1ce8F5w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ucJnnGV67vkrBRrptYFLUX6Xng1M9r6ehgqcUzYC3R6NwIlFU8MO1PNG0bPyp/rlu4 NfUxo77ouWhlm2XabdEv9r6wLg1aJRw3ZeCac66N9uaMsztFiDvA8OkI0y9aTf8NLUJi WdjqX8nP/znm5OfwlaKu0Z4RY6gqgrj2UdoMU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5AFC947E-35AE-4BA5-ADEE-DBDF1E0E4887@charter.net> References: <5AFC947E-35AE-4BA5-ADEE-DBDF1E0E4887@charter.net> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 19:29:30 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: (OT) selling things on craigslist (was: FS: Line 6 DL4) From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <5JvCkC.A.GoH.NOPrNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109029 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 02:29:33 +0000 (UTC) My craigslist experience has been pretty good. For most things, I only get one phone call, but that person ends up buying the item. When I've priced things low, it's been a bit awkward. I won't "reserve" an item, so if someone traveled some distance, only to arrive after I've sold, they've been annoyed. For music equipment though, I like it better than ebay. I'd much prefer someone to come over and try the thing out in person. Plus, no commission. On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Richard Atkinson wrote: > I've been pretty lucky so far with the recent slew of stuff I've been cle= aning out, thankfully. I don't suffer fools lightly, so even this kid who f= laked today got a quick "uh huh" and a hang up, while he wanted to chat abo= ut his bank account 'predicament'. But, you know, at least he was nice, tel= ling me how he was sure someone else would snap up my pedal, because I was = selling it for... > > "uh huh" CLICK > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 18, 2011, at 4:33 PM, Matt Davignon wrote= : > >> My tales of craigslist flakeouts are legion. It's gotten to the point >> where I often don't want to bother trying to sell anything. My two >> favorite requests: >> >> 1) Can you "reserve" the item for me, then stay at home all day >> Saturday and Sunday, and I'll come by to look at the item if I have >> time? >> >> 2) Can you bring the items to my office in downtown San Francisco on >> Monday, and on my lunch break I'll peruse them and decide whether I >> want to buy them? >> >> However, it's great for giving things away. You just say "I'm >> available on this day and this day. I will not reserve it for you. >> Whoever comes and picks it up first gets it. You can call me to get a >> status update." >> >> -- >> Matt Davignon >> mattdavignon@gmail.com >> www.ribosomemusic.com >> Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt >> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 3:30 PM, =A0 wrote: >>> and another craigslist flakeout.... >>> yummy! >>> >> > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 19 05:11:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1483E18349F; Tue, 19 Apr 2011 05:11:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DNa47fwWNcwqsDt604u/dOfNdHNEGyqjz1xsW4PtZD8=; b=wmgp8a4z+vrzRbZPfy2FjVvNfvkSad38EA9vHO6503jgcDeGwxCJtQDx2RJjsWtUUs +EyivmZeBl2OR0dNCBAl8+KLP+dWiR4KdrRogJ3s5VCKjtb8uI0V2G2OnReBVgfIUOpR myeJPniwpB45ttRKAqzwuIwWuLbVXJMU0WzPM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uDpwAq7YYOSZrYzsu8ewYkw+sReMXi0wlJr8LjIrmEmiyF+iPyr87NZtH5qMCGwX71 SqkBvVBwASxuTGlP5RrpFdcds9mAUnHWE09NSQWMAlZrL0PLOmrUMVbyp3ytwmJTfDXN MHLUBxuD/jyIfs8cDK4CyfahE/UXPxwldSF4Y= References: <5AFC947E-35AE-4BA5-ADEE-DBDF1E0E4887@charter.net> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: <5AFC947E-35AE-4BA5-ADEE-DBDF1E0E4887@charter.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 07:10:27 +0200 Message-ID: <-5470043516309028797@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: (OT) selling things on craigslist (was: FS: Line 6 DL4) To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109030 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 05:11:06 +0000 (UTC) I hate people LIKE you, god is everyone in such a hurry and are so important that they can't spend 2 mins being er... Nice???? Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 19 Apr 2011, at 02:37, Richard Atkinson wrote: > I've been pretty lucky so far with the recent slew of stuff I've been cle= aning out, thankfully. I don't suffer fools lightly, so even this kid who f= laked today got a quick "uh huh" and a hang up, while he wanted to chat abo= ut his bank account 'predicament'. But, you know, at least he was nice, tel= ling me how he was sure someone else would snap up my pedal, because I was = selling it for... > > "uh huh" CLICK > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 18, 2011, at 4:33 PM, Matt Davignon wrote= : > >> My tales of craigslist flakeouts are legion. It's gotten to the point >> where I often don't want to bother trying to sell anything. My two >> favorite requests: >> >> 1) Can you "reserve" the item for me, then stay at home all day >> Saturday and Sunday, and I'll come by to look at the item if I have >> time? >> >> 2) Can you bring the items to my office in downtown San Francisco on >> Monday, and on my lunch break I'll peruse them and decide whether I >> want to buy them? >> >> However, it's great for giving things away. You just say "I'm >> available on this day and this day. I will not reserve it for you. >> Whoever comes and picks it up first gets it. You can call me to get a >> status update." >> >> -- >> Matt Davignon >> mattdavignon@gmail.com >> www.ribosomemusic.com >> Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt >> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 3:30 PM, wrote: >>> and another craigslist flakeout.... >>> yummy! >>> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 19 05:48:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A7A818349F; Tue, 19 Apr 2011 05:48:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DAD2235.2030907@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 22:48:37 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: OT Gear Power Supply Swap Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109031 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 05:48:45 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I accidentally purchased a power supply that I have no use for and wondered if anyone would be interested in trading it for a 9 volt wall wart power supply that will supply any small BOSS or equivalent stomp box pedals: A One Spot or a BOSS PSA 120 would suit me fine. These are actually a lot less expensive power supplies but I'm into trading straight. rick walker Here's what I have and some of the things it powers. This thing is brand new and never used: 9 VOLT POWER SUPPLY ADAPTER 9V AC - DIGITECH PS0913B Specifications: INPUT - 240V ~ 50Hz TYPE - AC/AC OUTPUT - 9V ~ 1.5A (9 Volts 1500ma) ZONE - Australia CONNECTOR SIZE - 2.5mm CORD LENGTH - 2 meter DIMENSIONS - 55 x 55 x 80mm COLOUR - Black It can power: Digitech BP200 Digitech Whammy Digitech Whammy Limited Edition Digitech Vocalist Live 2 Digitech Vocalist Live 3 Digitech Vocalist Live 4 Digitech Vocalist Live 5 Digitech Vocal 300 Digitech JamMan Digitech JamMan Delay Digitech JamMan Stereo Digitech HarmonyMan Digitech Timebender Digitech RP155 Digitech RP255 Digitech RP355 Digitech RP500 Digitech RP1000 Digitech Genesis Digitech GNX1 Digitech RPX400 Digitech RP100A Digitech RP200A Digitech RP300A Digitech Expression Factory EX-7 Digitech VL3D And Many More Specifications: INPUT - 240V ~ 50Hz TYPE - AC/AC OUTPUT - 9V ~ 1.5A (9 Volts 1500ma) ZONE - Australia CONNECTOR SIZE - 2.5mm CORD LENGTH - 2 meter DIMENSIONS - 55 x 55 x 80mm COLOUR - Black From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 19 05:49:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A386183486; Tue, 19 Apr 2011 05:49:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=p3APx3SnMQzZsFBuio+85UDfRtkKbW5oOr4kRWoYdzk=; b=tkwGcN4e+Kv7b0N6n2E00gA7AZsZTxCb3Cy9aYCEh3FP7V3X2ghTnDA5lcNDZZGPoJ On4AqqBNf4aemCpUwbqUiblBPURZGikFT9jyUw9bhSK2RMHzCQtphaTlc5L8B7g6Ruk0 +uCJMDJYgJ/lReepRxCS+BSD77M6DjGLioCZ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gMRlZNJNxcuzRfTdmIhB1PJ2Z+aoRJuPI+hzX7ZyOHCp2HTq+ijBD27k/ZUDuF+XBf BDMr0VazYbo8ZZBBu4h9fLUVGVQtRWEfB07O+3frqVC2SUBf3UX3+ddAcLcNdo5/jjeo wPBLvCbWKGu6jn4IxFWnnWdIpVGwKVZw/imf4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DAC98D8.3090808@cruzio.com> References: <4DAC98D8.3090808@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 22:49:46 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ukulele Loop Dreams was looping on npr From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109032 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 05:49:48 +0000 (UTC) Bass Ukelele sounds a lot like an Ashbory bass to me. Is there much of a difference? --=20 Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt Rick Walker was all: ... > To add to all of that, =A0I recently purchased a four string Ukulele bass > instrument which has the body of a Baritone Uke, but > has black silicon strings on it that make it sound somewhat close to an > upright. =A0 A fantastic instrument. =A0I'm saving to > buy one that is fretless now. > > rick walker > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 19 06:29:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 391FE18349F; Tue, 19 Apr 2011 06:29:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed; reply-type=original X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-04-19_03:2011-04-19,2011-04-19,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1104180211 Message-id: <2F77C25893894660B48020627443EF94@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4DAC98D8.3090808@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: Ukulele Loop Dreams was looping on npr Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 23:29:38 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6090 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109033 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 06:29:41 +0000 (UTC) Ashbury bass has no frets. toby ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Davignon" To: Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 10:49 PM Subject: Re: Ukulele Loop Dreams was looping on npr Bass Ukelele sounds a lot like an Ashbory bass to me. Is there much of a difference? -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt Rick Walker was all: ... > To add to all of that, I recently purchased a four string Ukulele bass > instrument which has the body of a Baritone Uke, but > has black silicon strings on it that make it sound somewhat close to an > upright. A fantastic instrument. I'm saving to > buy one that is fretless now. > > rick walker > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 19 08:55:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31EB5183453; Tue, 19 Apr 2011 08:55:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=z8B6dMoWeMJme6hs6SbFjNlCq8RVBoJNsZ1w9S1ZPuo=; b=kjTb9dY16rzn0dFBkDopdXF5fu7iVRn/4bFZbiz5bph2xiIuGTBJ7MOYGfBh0Q1oW+ J7LMAwv3F+B8+cu7Fwe/gCeGib3X8/GWy+dzHTrP+lxongL4DdfuCytkBgi5kzaiRrbq W3VS1toAQmQckop1SqfztQnFmNksemsc6gdkA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=sY3WkGFV8zfk2Folo0l3VsiGRoNolcUWo5A1c27Rf4rLt0h8uHP21SKiBIq+UGo/lN V+zGBoDEEyi9whGych87oK78SzTb9bIsUwvhBmkSpWWuewyjAYxBiI99pLolKzSqnNjQ e3ZaGeL52fKyLpSVqZKP2wqjcJu96Pyo4+4VQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 01:55:38 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Free Amplitube From: Rafael Nunes To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec520e81715990504a141ac68 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109034 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 08:55:40 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec520e81715990504a141ac68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yea I got an email from IK about this. Pretty cool, official branded simulations of gear, with a la carte pricing for individual components. Kind of cool in my opinion, I kind of want to give it a try soon! Im getting fed up with Gutar Rig 4... On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Tony K wrote: > For you collectors of VSTs. > > Amplitube 3.5 is FREE! > > http://ikmultimedia.com/amplitubefree/download/ > > -- > -==-=-=- > Tony > -- Rafa's One Man Band Online: http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/ http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239 http://www.youtube.com/user/RafasOneManBand http://vimeo.com/11499020 http://www.myspace.com/rafasonemanband --bcaec520e81715990504a141ac68 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yea I got an email from IK about this. Pretty cool, official branded simula= tions of gear, with a la carte pricing for individual components. Kind of c= ool in my opinion, I kind of want to give it a try soon! Im getting fed up = with Gutar Rig 4...

On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Tony K <bigtonyk@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
For you collectors of VSTs.
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Amplitube 3.5 is F= REE!
=A0



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Rafa's One Man Band= Online:
http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/
http://www.= facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239
--bcaec520e81715990504a141ac68-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 19 12:54:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C44C18349F; Tue, 19 Apr 2011 12:54:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_b301e32b-3e0e-4286-8293-40e5454cbcfa_" X-Originating-IP: [81.132.109.254] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: Monolith demo released Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 12:54:31 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4DAC99EC.7060506@cruzio.com> References: ,<4DAC99EC.7060506@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Apr 2011 12:54:32.0304 (UTC) FILETIME=[ED789700:01CBFE90] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109035 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 12:54:33 +0000 (UTC) --_b301e32b-3e0e-4286-8293-40e5454cbcfa_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Rick - hope you enjoy it! G Gareth=2C Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ Date: Mon=2C 18 Apr 2011 13:07:08 -0700 From: looppool@cruzio.com To: buddhamachine@live.co.uk CC: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Monolith demo released =20 =20 =20 =20 On 7/22/64 11:59 AM=2C Gareth Whittock wrote: =20 =20 Some of you instrument expanding types might be interested to try out the beta demo... I need feedback! Incidentally=2C I've been using the 10sec stereo delay as a sort of looper on it. You can play a sound into the loop=2C change sounds to add more=2C play over the top=2C change loop length etc. It's all tempo synchable too - theoretically... :-) I'm writing the manual currently so it my be a bit confusing at first... =20 Peace =20 Gareth@Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Very nice demo=2C Gareth. I'm excited to try this out! =20 Congratulations! =20 rick walker = --_b301e32b-3e0e-4286-8293-40e5454cbcfa_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Rick - hope you enjoy it!

G

Gareth=2C Sentientfx -&nbs= p=3B Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/



= Date: Mon=2C 18 Apr 2011 13:07:08 -0700
From: looppool@cruzio.com
To:= buddhamachine@live.co.uk
CC: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Sub= ject: Re: Monolith demo released

=20 =20 =20 =20 On 7/22/64 11:59 AM=2C Gareth Whittock wrote:
Some of you instrument expanding types might be interested to try out the beta demo... I need feedback!
Incidentally=2C I've been using the 10sec stereo delay as a sort of looper on it. You can play a sound into the loop=2C change sounds to add more=2C play over the top=2C change loop length etc. It's all tempo synchable too - theoretically... :-)
I'm writing the manual currently so it my be a bit confusing at first...

Peace

Gareth@Sentientfx - =3B Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/




 =3B
Very nice demo=2C Gareth. =3B =3B I'm excited to try this out!&= nbsp=3B =3B Congratulations!

rick walker
= --_b301e32b-3e0e-4286-8293-40e5454cbcfa_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 19 13:39:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A00018349F; Tue, 19 Apr 2011 13:39:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Recomended fast USB hubs for Imac From: Reyn Ouwehand In-Reply-To: <58E4E5FB-AEAC-4AF4-8512-BEAB21B15DDD@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 15:39:48 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <979A78E8-FBEE-4FAC-9483-0826EFF1CE4A@reyn.net> References: <58E4E5FB-AEAC-4AF4-8512-BEAB21B15DDD@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Authenticated-Sender: reynouwehand@quicknet.nl (via SMTP) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1QCB9h-00076J-Hf X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-2.9, vereist 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: loopers-delight@reyn.net X-Spam-Status: No Resent-Message-ID: <34EyNB.A.7oD.pCZrNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109036 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 13:39:53 +0000 (UTC) I'm still looking for a 19" USB hub, but it seems they are hard to = find... Not even for those big servers.. R. On Apr 18, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > I personally wouldn't want to put the hard drive streaming samples on = a hub but maybe somebody else on the list has tried it successfully? I = have my Fireface UC on it's own usb port, the hard drive with all my = audio files is using the FW800 port(it's where I record to as well), = then I have the hub plugged into one of the usb ports. On the hub I = plugged it the iLok(for things like Soundtoys), external keyboard, = mouse, and another hard drive for periodic backup purposes. So my non = critical accessories are plugged into the powered hub.=20 >=20 > -Todd Matthews > On Apr 18, 2011, at 9:18 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: >=20 >> ok gang,so ive runned out of usbs in the back of my Imac,after pers >> recomendation i also bought the soundtoys plugin bundel which is >> absolutely awesome but requires a usb authorization stick to be >> plugged in >> im also moving all my native intstruments sound libraries and samples >> to an external WD 500GB usb portable external drive. >> ive never owned one so i dont know if there would be drawbacks and >> disadvantages as far as speed is concerned pluging the external drive >> into a usb extension . >> If quality is crucial could you then recomend me a good and fast usb >> hub for that? >> many thanx! >> Luis >>=20 >> --=20 >> www.luis-angulo.com >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 19 13:45:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7940E18349F; Tue, 19 Apr 2011 13:45:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=O7UnV1GYIY6o6NswnJo+d2rqqcU6BgajEVfkkp5BKzg=; b=Lbb8fUnPMxfTRG1woWJMqFMSTCaDRIn+y7s0QZYMPGIlswivYZCB4f0XUb8+17/Sjh itTdH9ITwIlXmUZzKbgxoWcIh8cwzTZZ8vkRJJvZs7I51AtTfOD1GWo+0sVo4XDzEBXA 4rODRsyonyJw/hROBahOm7Wt82pnyOu9Y+W/4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LjWtJtfJIMk4r79vMLe8UxUzmkyjqLcP6SwYqu49xYwRJGUjj+jV75MfR/qtDQ6qqe yZvhtHHjWxreooWt30kc+CGE9u/ffjwjHJPvFZGcJ8Gu1Qhc0ep41aIY4YRJ9sDUScaK W0boeuGwuwYNauz3I7M/dEh1uGboFAy1QwJCQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <979A78E8-FBEE-4FAC-9483-0826EFF1CE4A@reyn.net> References: <58E4E5FB-AEAC-4AF4-8512-BEAB21B15DDD@gmail.com> <979A78E8-FBEE-4FAC-9483-0826EFF1CE4A@reyn.net> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:45:21 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Recomended fast USB hubs for Imac From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636d347bc28673204a145b81d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109037 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 13:45:22 +0000 (UTC) --001636d347bc28673204a145b81d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://www.pcconnection.com/1/1/3748298-digi-international-digi-hubport-14-14-port-usb-2-0-hub-19-rack-hp-usb-14.html A bit pricey though. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Reyn Ouwehand wrote: > I'm still looking for a 19" USB hub, but it seems they are hard to find... > Not even for those big servers.. > > R. > > On Apr 18, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > > > I personally wouldn't want to put the hard drive streaming samples on a > hub but maybe somebody else on the list has tried it successfully? I have my > Fireface UC on it's own usb port, the hard drive with all my audio files is > using the FW800 port(it's where I record to as well), then I have the hub > plugged into one of the usb ports. On the hub I plugged it the iLok(for > things like Soundtoys), external keyboard, mouse, and another hard drive for > periodic backup purposes. So my non critical accessories are plugged into > the powered hub. > > > > -Todd Matthews > > On Apr 18, 2011, at 9:18 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > > > >> ok gang,so ive runned out of usbs in the back of my Imac,after pers > >> recomendation i also bought the soundtoys plugin bundel which is > >> absolutely awesome but requires a usb authorization stick to be > >> plugged in > >> im also moving all my native intstruments sound libraries and samples > >> to an external WD 500GB usb portable external drive. > >> ive never owned one so i dont know if there would be drawbacks and > >> disadvantages as far as speed is concerned pluging the external drive > >> into a usb extension . > >> If quality is crucial could you then recomend me a good and fast usb > >> hub for that? > >> many thanx! > >> Luis > >> > >> -- > >> www.luis-angulo.com > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- -==-=-=- Tony --001636d347bc28673204a145b81d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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A bit pricey though.

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Reyn Ouwehand <<= a href=3D"mailto:loopers-delight@reyn.net">loopers-delight@reyn.net>= wrote:
I'm still looking for a 19" USB hub, = but it seems they are hard to find... Not even for those big servers..

R.

On Apr 18, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Todd Matthews wrote:

> I personally wouldn't want to put the hard drive streaming samples= on a hub but maybe somebody else on the list has tried it successfully? I = have my Fireface UC on it's own usb port, the hard drive with all my au= dio files is using the FW800 port(it's where I record to as well), then= I have the hub plugged into one of the usb ports. On the hub I plugged it = the iLok(for things like Soundtoys), external keyboard, mouse, and another = hard drive for periodic backup purposes. =A0So my non critical accessories = are plugged into the powered hub.
>
> -Todd Matthews
> On Apr 18, 2011, at 9:18 AM, Louie Angulo wrote:
>
>> ok gang,so ive runned out of usbs in the back of my Imac,after per= s
>> recomendation i also bought the soundtoys plugin bundel which is >> absolutely awesome but requires a usb authorization stick to be >> plugged in
>> im also moving all my native intstruments sound libraries and samp= les
>> to an external WD 500GB usb portable external drive.
>> ive never owned one so i dont know if there would be drawbacks and=
>> disadvantages as far as speed is concerned pluging the external dr= ive
>> into a usb extension .
>> If quality is crucial could you then recomend me a good and fast u= sb
>> hub for that?
>> many thanx!
>> Luis
>>
>> --
>> www.luis-= angulo.com
>>
>
>
>
>




--
-=3D=3D-=3D= -=3D-
Tony
--001636d347bc28673204a145b81d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 19 13:48:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12A5718349F; Tue, 19 Apr 2011 13:48:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Qmoj3FH3h+iw4nJL5ZpKeweVFUsk9Ye71c1Xl0NFSz0=; b=n3odHZKcJUNjy72W+wgff/MNnaD0p4Ym0rcTxdBIA1Qxci8VfeTCltsnlzCxI1ZE1N x9Yo+/sur9/36raNAJMUnEcZw8Fgsf5gGr6QL5SDlJY6MO7RbCzXL9Am6km6tMml2A3o JT33+PSUTCVhrWrfX/ij/r6O8qtyPsX8qXe5U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=kUlgiPuBsHIZQA9mXS5DafRG7KcLFOJX/XPcH5CLScezKG04SC+ebXsOT8SM977SQw qTl4j0gzY9CcBeWXCOad0oQ9e2i82DC0M/TcLsAV+Y85nBIrb/ySMxnpjmEjJeoNJD+1 k8+7RuI6MCurW7PQrC1fDwojNbeB4Sw6CB6t4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <58E4E5FB-AEAC-4AF4-8512-BEAB21B15DDD@gmail.com> <979A78E8-FBEE-4FAC-9483-0826EFF1CE4A@reyn.net> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:48:41 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Recomended fast USB hubs for Imac From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636d347bc226d8d04a145c4c0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109038 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 13:48:43 +0000 (UTC) --001636d347bc226d8d04a145c4c0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 You can also get their 7 port hub and a rack mount kit. http://www.digi.com/products/model.jsp?lid=EN&pgid=53&pfid=68&mtid=461&amtid=461&pm=Y On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Tony K wrote: > > http://www.pcconnection.com/1/1/3748298-digi-international-digi-hubport-14-14-port-usb-2-0-hub-19-rack-hp-usb-14.html > > A bit pricey though. > > On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Reyn Ouwehand wrote: > >> I'm still looking for a 19" USB hub, but it seems they are hard to find... >> Not even for those big servers.. >> >> R. >> >> On Apr 18, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: >> >> > I personally wouldn't want to put the hard drive streaming samples on a >> hub but maybe somebody else on the list has tried it successfully? I have my >> Fireface UC on it's own usb port, the hard drive with all my audio files is >> using the FW800 port(it's where I record to as well), then I have the hub >> plugged into one of the usb ports. On the hub I plugged it the iLok(for >> things like Soundtoys), external keyboard, mouse, and another hard drive for >> periodic backup purposes. So my non critical accessories are plugged into >> the powered hub. >> > >> > -Todd Matthews >> > On Apr 18, 2011, at 9:18 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: >> > >> >> ok gang,so ive runned out of usbs in the back of my Imac,after pers >> >> recomendation i also bought the soundtoys plugin bundel which is >> >> absolutely awesome but requires a usb authorization stick to be >> >> plugged in >> >> im also moving all my native intstruments sound libraries and samples >> >> to an external WD 500GB usb portable external drive. >> >> ive never owned one so i dont know if there would be drawbacks and >> >> disadvantages as far as speed is concerned pluging the external drive >> >> into a usb extension . >> >> If quality is crucial could you then recomend me a good and fast usb >> >> hub for that? >> >> many thanx! >> >> Luis >> >> >> >> -- >> >> www.luis-angulo.com >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > > -- > -==-=-=- > Tony > -- -==-=-=- Tony --001636d347bc226d8d04a145c4c0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You can also get their 7 port hub and a rack mount kit.
=A0<= /div>
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Tony = K <bigtonyk@gmai= l.com> wrote:
=A0
A bit pricey though.

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Rey= n Ouwehand <loopers-delight@reyn.net> wrote:
I'm still looking for a 19" USB hub, = but it seems they are hard to find... Not even for those big servers..

R.

On Apr 18, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Todd Matthews wrote:

> I personally wouldn't want to put the hard drive streaming samples= on a hub but maybe somebody else on the list has tried it successfully? I = have my Fireface UC on it's own usb port, the hard drive with all my au= dio files is using the FW800 port(it's where I record to as well), then= I have the hub plugged into one of the usb ports. On the hub I plugged it = the iLok(for things like Soundtoys), external keyboard, mouse, and another = hard drive for periodic backup purposes. =A0So my non critical accessories = are plugged into the powered hub.
>
> -Todd Matthews
> On Apr 18, 2011, at 9:18 AM, Louie Angulo wrote:
>
>> ok gang,so ive runned out of usbs in the back of my Imac,after per= s
>> recomendation i also bought the soundtoys plugin bundel which is >> absolutely awesome but requires a usb authorization stick to be >> plugged in
>> im also moving all my native intstruments sound libraries and samp= les
>> to an external WD 500GB usb portable external drive.
>> ive never owned one so i dont know if there would be drawbacks and=
>> disadvantages as far as speed is concerned pluging the external dr= ive
>> into a usb extension .
>> If quality is crucial could you then recomend me a good and fast u= sb
>> hub for that?
>> many thanx!
>> Luis
>>
>> --
>> www.luis-= angulo.com
>>
>
>
>
>




-- -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D-
Tony



--
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Tony
--001636d347bc226d8d04a145c4c0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 19 13:54:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C0B518349F; Tue, 19 Apr 2011 13:54:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Reyn Ouwehand Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-644054254 Subject: Re: Recomended fast USB hubs for Imac Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 15:54:44 +0200 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <58E4E5FB-AEAC-4AF4-8512-BEAB21B15DDD@gmail.com> <979A78E8-FBEE-4FAC-9483-0826EFF1CE4A@reyn.net> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Authenticated-Sender: reynouwehand@quicknet.nl (via SMTP) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1QCBOA-0007JP-Vw X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-2.899, vereist 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: loopers-delight@reyn.net X-Spam-Status: No Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109039 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 13:54:51 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-644054254 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks Tony for the tip, but my god, those things are expensive... :-S On Apr 19, 2011, at 3:48 PM, Tony K wrote: > You can also get their 7 port hub and a rack mount kit. > =20 > = http://www.digi.com/products/model.jsp?lid=3DEN&pgid=3D53&pfid=3D68&mtid=3D= 461&amtid=3D461&pm=3DY >=20 > On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Tony K wrote: > = http://www.pcconnection.com/1/1/3748298-digi-international-digi-hubport-14= -14-port-usb-2-0-hub-19-rack-hp-usb-14.html > =20 > A bit pricey though. >=20 > On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Reyn Ouwehand = wrote: > I'm still looking for a 19" USB hub, but it seems they are hard to = find... Not even for those big servers.. >=20 > R. >=20 > On Apr 18, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: >=20 > > I personally wouldn't want to put the hard drive streaming samples = on a hub but maybe somebody else on the list has tried it successfully? = I have my Fireface UC on it's own usb port, the hard drive with all my = audio files is using the FW800 port(it's where I record to as well), = then I have the hub plugged into one of the usb ports. On the hub I = plugged it the iLok(for things like Soundtoys), external keyboard, = mouse, and another hard drive for periodic backup purposes. So my non = critical accessories are plugged into the powered hub. > > > > -Todd Matthews > > On Apr 18, 2011, at 9:18 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > > > >> ok gang,so ive runned out of usbs in the back of my Imac,after pers > >> recomendation i also bought the soundtoys plugin bundel which is > >> absolutely awesome but requires a usb authorization stick to be > >> plugged in > >> im also moving all my native intstruments sound libraries and = samples > >> to an external WD 500GB usb portable external drive. > >> ive never owned one so i dont know if there would be drawbacks and > >> disadvantages as far as speed is concerned pluging the external = drive > >> into a usb extension . > >> If quality is crucial could you then recomend me a good and fast = usb > >> hub for that? > >> many thanx! > >> Luis > >> > >> -- > >> www.luis-angulo.com > >> > > > > > > > > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D-=20 > Tony >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D-=20 > Tony --Apple-Mail-3-644054254 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Thanks Tony for the tip, but my god, those things are expensive... :-S

On Apr 19, 2011, at 3:48 PM, Tony K wrote:

You can also get their 7 port hub and a rack mount kit.
 
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Tony K <bigtonyk@gmail.com> wrote:
 
A bit pricey though.

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Reyn Ouwehand <loopers-delight@reyn.net> wrote:
I'm still looking for a 19" USB hub, but it seems they are hard to find... Not even for those big servers..

R.

On Apr 18, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Todd Matthews wrote:

> I personally wouldn't want to put the hard drive streaming samples on a hub but maybe somebody else on the list has tried it successfully? I have my Fireface UC on it's own usb port, the hard drive with all my audio files is using the FW800 port(it's where I record to as well), then I have the hub plugged into one of the usb ports. On the hub I plugged it the iLok(for things like Soundtoys), external keyboard, mouse, and another hard drive for periodic backup purposes.  So my non critical accessories are plugged into the powered hub.
>
> -Todd Matthews
> On Apr 18, 2011, at 9:18 AM, Louie Angulo wrote:
>
>> ok gang,so ive runned out of usbs in the back of my Imac,after pers
>> recomendation i also bought the soundtoys plugin bundel which is
>> absolutely awesome but requires a usb authorization stick to be
>> plugged in
>> im also moving all my native intstruments sound libraries and samples
>> to an external WD 500GB usb portable external drive.
>> ive never owned one so i dont know if there would be drawbacks and
>> disadvantages as far as speed is concerned pluging the external drive
>> into a usb extension .
>> If quality is crucial could you then recomend me a good and fast usb
>> hub for that?
>> many thanx!
>> Luis
>>
>> --
>> www.luis-angulo.com
>>
>
>
>
>




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--Apple-Mail-3-644054254-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 19 13:56:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C87B918349D; Tue, 19 Apr 2011 13:56:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1303221374; bh=iGxZFKHfkIqjcYumPycbT5mAv/eZ6pA4K9Vyjp2P06o=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Zq0t3CrO+r56JT2l1ocntwYotgn3zNIxSHsCTrlqWyrYWmLPBNeo/fveqlH9tQq5qFoaQtEKUk2d5XV42Lp/ZDiVLcgrPpQ5F+w2ZITcSzAxFTO6ZkrwxmffLVcQVvexMnie9+31DcFrIa77BYZ0lU37ot629LTqBJ34N8nVBQ4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=psrXnsE9IjYvJ9QkSDZWhkfMGXVa4+1QAw/lbClojxfxbqz6w2Z3J+BPPkMuUDJ8qiF/lLqt54p3NefYJbyYFlH8MiUJ5Wm7HHO5S45XA6r4xEU4lzxyEC67CvcpPgs3ANuy7JXx/ZncLkWsczAQynMPTATJhUeThr9XiywVj84=; Message-ID: <957048.28059.qm@web38404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: gwWlQksVM1kBWnL6MrAJt7OIOuwuai6AsKUW8b8bUtP1eIa Sz4UqKfTGDih1jrBclDtt_0MHANe9Q3GxBD75on2r82u.NlkKNNR1Y1BVMFq dlCEoIaib_nuEHdKfOVvI5.J9q06lPN8kL4vztgbI9ksNkG4sFcZoVit2BS7 ooJn0bA783YUiG8L0lhs3z7HrmcRIhIePeDHFTy3fXbsFdpN7KmRmueIZVW3 VJ7k69FS3puv9qwCX8G8VWgWxHP4B0zug1WukjKWBg.JSmueI1Frv9_R7PTa hzJbmQfeXQ0f6XnsKBU9akxC_jmO8hP4GIuph9BMn4WT7w5c65fQXfTB3.z_ gF3YCPKjizgjQ9QrPlpGKOVvlhtA0fQgUTTPF8_MYpP.ztUuOOZ94x9.HVaO w1oVuo2eLixB9ug-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/12.0.2 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 06:56:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Elmer Fuddski Subject: Re: OT: Eventide Space - an amazing amount of reverb effects! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <0924C946-A345-42B4-BF09-DA6B5F3CBA8A@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-763455494-1303221374=:28059" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109040 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 13:56:16 +0000 (UTC) --0-763455494-1303221374=:28059 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Smarmy bugger. Can't someone have an opinion w/o a pompous comment from a b= loke like you? --- On Mon, 4/18/11, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: From: tEd =AE KiLLiAn Subject: Re: OT: Eventide Space - an amazing amount of reverb effects! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 7:29 AM I agree. I've been seriously looing into this unit. IMHO, you don't buy an Eventide to get your average "standard" guitar rever= b sound. On Apr 18, 2011, at 6:49 AM, mark francombe wrote: > On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Paul Richards wrote: > I am having serious difficulty finding a standard reverb patch on the Spa= ce! >=20 > Ha ha, you make that sound like a BAD thing! >=20 > --Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe --0-763455494-1303221374=:28059 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Smarmy bugger. Can't someone have an opinion = w/o a pompous comment from a bloke like you?

--- On Mon, 4/18/11,= tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:

From: tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net&= gt;
Subject: Re: OT: Eventide Space - an amazing amount of reverb effect= s!
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Monday, April 18, 20= 11, 7:29 AM

I agree.

I've been seriously looing into this= unit.

IMHO, you don't buy an Eventide to get your average "standard= " guitar reverb sound.


On Apr 18, 2011, at 6:49 AM, mark francom= be wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Paul Richards <paulrichard_rocks@= yahoo.com> wrote:
> I am having serious difficulty finding a s= tandard reverb patch on the Space!
>
> Ha ha, you make that so= und like a BAD thing!
>
> --Mark Francombe
> www.markfra= ncombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no
> t= witter @markfrancombe

--0-763455494-1303221374=:28059-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 19 14:25:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A7D3F18349F; Tue, 19 Apr 2011 14:25:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=zUqQ2eogioz8lh+3uqjRe4Y1MWSUJU+U3b3PFzAwX18= c=1 sm=1 a=NnQ32kyOf5QA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=CNxbVC3+Q4TMjpjfeHDQxw==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=gB28bEPOAAAA:8 a=VFLBUs1HAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=EzJUUNTIAAAA:8 a=lX0xS-rFIo8Qy3akLxQA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=CNxbVC3+Q4TMjpjfeHDQxw==:117 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <957048.28059.qm@web38404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT: Eventide Space - an amazing amount of reverb effects! Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 07:25:28 -0700 References: <957048.28059.qm@web38404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109041 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 14:25:30 +0000 (UTC) LOL. On Apr 19, 2011, at 6:56 AM, Elmer Fuddski wrote: > Smarmy bugger. Can't someone have an opinion w/o a pompous comment =20 > from a bloke like you? > > --- On Mon, 4/18/11, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > > From: tEd =AE KiLLiAn > Subject: Re: OT: Eventide Space - an amazing amount of reverb effects! > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 7:29 AM > > I agree. > > I've been seriously looing into this unit. > > IMHO, you don't buy an Eventide to get your average "standard" =20 > guitar reverb sound. > > > On Apr 18, 2011, at 6:49 AM, mark francombe wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Paul Richards = > wrote: > > I am having serious difficulty finding a standard reverb patch on =20= > the Space! > > > > Ha ha, you make that sound like a BAD thing! > > > > --Mark Francombe > > www.markfrancombe.com > > www.ordoabkhao.com > > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > > http://www.looop.no > > twitter @markfrancombe > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 19 15:12:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F5461834A0; Tue, 19 Apr 2011 15:12:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-04-19_05:2011-04-19,2011-04-19,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=4 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1104190042 Subject: Re: Ukulele Loop Dreams was looping on npr From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: <4DAC98D8.3090808@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 08:11:48 -0700 Cc: RP Collier Message-id: <658D1717-8E1F-4482-B174-4259E7B062BB@mac.com> References: <4DAC98D8.3090808@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <0oCeAD.A.TDG.YZarNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109042 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 15:12:24 +0000 (UTC) Nice clip! inspiring. > Our own Daniel Thomas (a very accomplished guitarist/multi-instrumentalist) > once told me that he thinks he learned more about harmony from playing a ukulele than by all of > his guitar playing because of the fact that you have the ability to fret all four strings simultaneously. The thing that was most enlightening for me about the Ukelele is that, with only four strings, you strip harmony right down to its most fundamental elements. Allowing only four notes, the uke forces guitarists to master four note chord voicings ..one finger to a note. These voicings seldom involve a barre and as such, they allow for super controlled note envelopes on each string (Hard to do with Barre). Mastering four note voicing on the UKE really made me much more savvy with respect to note choice (why have three Fundamentals ringing?) and note duration. I am cleaner and more potent harmonic player for it. d On Apr 18, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, RP Collier wrote: >> Tuneyards on Sunday All Things Considered 4/16: >> >> http://www.npr.org/2011/04/17/135443035/tune-yards-expanding-and-grabbing-attention > I also think it's very cool that she's recontextualizing the Ukulele. > > It resonates a lot with what I"ve been trying to do. > > I've been writing for the last 6 months on several four string instruments, including playing a lot of > baritone Ukulele. Our own Daniel Thomas (a very accomplished guitarist/multi-instrumentalist) > once told me that he thinks he learned more about harmony from playing a ukulele than by all of > his guitar playing because of the fact that you have the ability to fret all four strings simultaneously. > > Interestingly enough, Joni Mitchell started her whole career by writing songs on a Baritone Ukulele that she bought > for $36 because she didn't have enough money for a guitar. > > It's interesting that when you play one and really thing about modern songwriting, > that the natural progression is to begin to retune it. I'm on this kick lately of tuning to a random open tuning > and playing it as I go to eat my daily bagel before teaching. I give myself 10 minutes to learn how to play > the new tuning (or at least find something interesting in it) and then another 10 minutes to write at least the > bare bones of a song on the way home. In this way, I'm attempting to try to free myself of specific tuning > concepts and be able to find whatever the instrument gives me to play simply. > > With it's range, you can get a couple of different sounding octaves from the instrument as a looping source > and, of course, with 1/2 speed and 1/4 speed manipulations you can eek even more out of it. > > To add to all of that, I recently purchased a four string Ukulele bass instrument which has the body of a Baritone Uke, but > has black silicon strings on it that make it sound somewhat close to an upright. A fantastic instrument. I'm saving to > buy one that is fretless now. > > rick walker > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 19 16:04:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2D9F18349E; Tue, 19 Apr 2011 16:04:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=umnMItXa3M0pLZCCfG4DgyX2ptHiMN3bHUI0A3D/6E0=; b=EqlxSFrBKdUJ+q+TIpRrD73Xk0/sBqSzZNngGAbxIMrqJBzYTgK0rDF0E39Jc+QLQk FpZMR8mUDkMoy2FRCAzd3uwCmpYXHpW560WylgIqeNAOTNifRRmtNAfsQjq8lHlaRjth K0ecUNXkTcUuGtAC4TOmhSLIELDUYbODpWjf0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=RP92aJWdFeswe3bTYUHv2H0DchqwPrczQxU9Nraq62OjSF4h+Y0OYAmt3SliSks5+W Lo81CzEJGonHlSr2GgVCwbNoOGrp4VV47iZO3PLr0QqiScVTtwt4Vej2CllgQwGqczjt HkQYAVONTz+69e4Ec6uV6s1Rs3Gsj8TC35vAE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <-5470043516309028797@unknownmsgid> References: <5AFC947E-35AE-4BA5-ADEE-DBDF1E0E4887@charter.net> <-5470043516309028797@unknownmsgid> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:04:00 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: (OT) selling things on craigslist (was: FS: Line 6 DL4) From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109043 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 16:04:01 +0000 (UTC) Hey Mark, Was that directed at me? I guess I came off as a jerk. I actually think I'm nice, and I'm certainly in no rush. Maybe I should "reserve" stuff, but it's a drag when people flake. On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 10:10 PM, mark francombe wrote: > I hate people LIKE you, god is everyone in such a hurry and are so > important that they can't spend 2 mins being er... Nice???? > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 19 16:31:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92CDC18349F; Tue, 19 Apr 2011 16:31:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=67PPgUc0CtgM8E27DXTM5SVmNQEiZYYnqhTvr1M71DI= c=1 sm=1 a=1GmvzaAlhisA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=uAeZdDYgExgA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=1mPEbzcIwNq/5QazqZV7BA==:17 a=1l0yirPlAAAA:8 a=LK4Z3lV3AAAA:8 a=aV_rM7nXkNTwqw-I_ZgA:9 a=j-sEPzPrOrworRkSfeIA:7 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=1mPEbzcIwNq/5QazqZV7BA==:117 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 12:31:47 -0400 (EDT) From: thetoyroom@charter.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <72e7e445.13abdf.12f6e9a75ae.Webtop.42@charter.net> Subject: Re: Ukulele Loop Dreams was looping on npr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 42 X-Originating-IP: [12.195.92.82] Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <-7s9H.A.rd.zjbrNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109044 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 16:31:48 +0000 (UTC) thanks for the link. cool stuff.I've been playing a uke off and on for a few years now...a gift from a friend who lives in Hawaii, and i'm really enjoying the simplicity and directness of the instrument. Here's a old, long languishing song i quickly recorded recently, just to sketch it out and show it to a group i will be performing the tune with in a couple of months. the uke is playing the simple picking part, with tremolo'd guitar and a some ambient guitar washes as well. http://mandaladanceworks.com/music/Jewel_In_The_Belly_(reprise).mp3 as for the tuning, it really freaked me out at first, because i've learned too many instruments at such a rudimentary level (the 'jack of all trades, master of none' trick), and learning ANOTHER instrument/tuning was daunting. However, if you take the four high strings of the guitar at the 5th fret, that's Uke tuning. I was suddenly relieved, and realized that interesting melodies and chord clusters learned on the high four strings of the guitar could be translated directly to the uke, and cool uke chords could be brought back to the guitar. It kindof tied the two instruments together for me. Also, on bass, I have a hipshot drop tuner, and instead of tuning down, I can turn the low E string up one semitone, do the same for the A string, and then now the bass is in Uke tuning as well, (albeit in Bflat 6, rather than the C6 tuning of Uke). oooh...that sounds sexy....Drop Uke Tuning hahaha.... On my uke, i also use a wound low G string and it's an octave lower than the traditional uke stringing, so it mirrors the guitar more that way, too. My uke is headed to the shop soon to get a pickup installed. looking forward to it....looped uke....nice! regards, Rich On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 8:11 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote: > Nice clip! inspiring. > > >> Our own Daniel Thomas (a very accomplished >> guitarist/multi-instrumentalist) >> once told me that he thinks he learned more about harmony from >> playing a ukulele than by all of >> his guitar playing because of the fact that you have the ability to >> fret all four strings simultaneously. > > > The thing that was most enlightening for me about the Ukelele is that, > with only four strings, you strip harmony right down to its most > fundamental elements. Allowing only four notes, the uke forces > guitarists to master four note chord voicings ..one finger to a note. > These voicings seldom involve a barre and as such, they allow for > super controlled note envelopes on each string (Hard to do with > Barre). Mastering four note voicing on the UKE really made me much > more savvy with respect to note choice (why have three Fundamentals > ringing?) and note duration. I am cleaner and more potent harmonic > player for it. > d > > On Apr 18, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > >> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, RP Collier wrote: >>> Tuneyards on Sunday All Things Considered 4/16: >>> >>> >>> http://www.npr.org/2011/04/17/135443035/tune-yards-expanding-and-grabbing-attention >> I also think it's very cool that she's recontextualizing the Ukulele. >> >> It resonates a lot with what I"ve been trying to do. >> >> I've been writing for the last 6 months on several four string >> instruments, including playing a lot of >> baritone Ukulele. Our own Daniel Thomas (a very accomplished >> guitarist/multi-instrumentalist) >> once told me that he thinks he learned more about harmony from >> playing a ukulele than by all of >> his guitar playing because of the fact that you have the ability to >> fret all four strings simultaneously. >> >> Interestingly enough, Joni Mitchell started her whole career by >> writing songs on a Baritone Ukulele that she bought >> for $36 because she didn't have enough money for a guitar. >> >> It's interesting that when you play one and really thing about modern >> songwriting, >> that the natural progression is to begin to retune it. I'm on >> this kick lately of tuning to a random open tuning >> and playing it as I go to eat my daily bagel before teaching. I >> give myself 10 minutes to learn how to play >> the new tuning (or at least find something interesting in it) and >> then another 10 minutes to write at least the >> bare bones of a song on the way home. In this way, I'm >> attempting to try to free myself of specific tuning >> concepts and be able to find whatever the instrument gives me to play >> simply. >> >> With it's range, you can get a couple of different sounding octaves >> from the instrument as a looping source >> and, of course, with 1/2 speed and 1/4 speed manipulations you can >> eek even more out of it. >> >> To add to all of that, I recently purchased a four string Ukulele >> bass instrument which has the body of a Baritone Uke, but >> has black silicon strings on it that make it sound somewhat close to >> an upright. A fantastic instrument. I'm saving to >> buy one that is fretless now. >> >> rick walker >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 19 16:35:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A48F183486; Tue, 19 Apr 2011 16:35:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=67PPgUc0CtgM8E27DXTM5SVmNQEiZYYnqhTvr1M71DI= c=1 sm=1 a=1GmvzaAlhisA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=F3DNnGUzW5MA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=1mPEbzcIwNq/5QazqZV7BA==:17 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=FRwGGm3HQWleRvAK2ZQA:9 a=Dzdh2tU8fcMNIJ4mSbkA:7 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=1mPEbzcIwNq/5QazqZV7BA==:117 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 12:35:39 -0400 (EDT) From: thetoyroom@charter.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <162d800a.13acd9.12f6e9e0067.Webtop.42@charter.net> Subject: Re: (OT) selling things on craigslist (was: FS: Line 6 DL4) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 42 X-Originating-IP: [12.195.92.82] Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109045 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 16:35:39 +0000 (UTC) I think it was more directed at me, for hanging up on the guy. I took it as being sarcastic, as well? I'm a pretty balanced guy. Even though i didn't feel the need to indulge this young kid after he flaked on me, i've gone out of my way to make buyers happy with the gear i've sold recently....such as by taking a loss on shipping on some stuff and even delivering a pedal to a guys house and taking a few bucks off even when i had said i was firm on the price. Rich On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Art Simon wrote: > Hey Mark, > > Was that directed at me? I guess I came off as a jerk. I actually > think I'm nice, and I'm certainly in no rush. Maybe I should "reserve" > stuff, but it's a drag when people flake. > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 10:10 PM, mark francombe > wrote: >> I hate people LIKE you, god is everyone in such a hurry and are so >> important that they can't spend 2 mins being er... Nice???? >> > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 19 17:39:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D51A518349F; Tue, 19 Apr 2011 17:39:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Q2MhPZ9V2YEM+DOVB+yOWYjSd21iv1QrkYx8V6QRG6k=; b=aN1ntCfBfHt/zgSo+LBr8g8/c459YAjp52MZ6ZgtVVLpRdHmGTJd/ghBsG4LU03VXz NgHcSOVa7RhhnvyOEDsOJv5Vrkd9I/8IT7pR7FJxTWqVaR16CeWg9IX2lrPN8PYJE4b3 R0GCutAufSp9vt+8Q18jNzJXmQL2fUhqt9R0U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Z9HDmS/WYMBf9SAYkYA/Y6/Wls6M1m81l8WB2Harx/QzfCf2+a4JnsTRYT+MRC4rRR /9zPMusbcwD4PqL2sUZw68CZSv00VBqAkk3cqt5XvAKeTBByfkBjEZCad7Y7ow7oTWeh f/rOLHB9+9mqqq5PT8fsniCAb5m4d1sIcmp40= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2F77C25893894660B48020627443EF94@NORBY11> References: <4DAC98D8.3090808@cruzio.com> <2F77C25893894660B48020627443EF94@NORBY11> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 10:39:25 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ukulele Loop Dreams was looping on npr From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109046 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 17:39:29 +0000 (UTC) First, I was all: > Bass Ukelele sounds a lot like an Ashbory bass to me. Is there much of > a difference? Then Toby G was like: > Ashbury bass has no frets. > > toby ...And the fretless bass ukelele would also have no frets, I imagine. Having briefly owned an Ashbory, I noticed that the strings are more rubbery than I'm used to. When I tried to do a glissando, I always wound up pulling a bit of the string with me. It also wound up going out of tune a lot. I guess I was checking to see whether the bass uke strings were significantly different than the Ashbory strings. Also, is the tuning different? A smaller, more portable bass instrument could be cool. Not sure if it's $400 cool, but cool nonetheless. -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 19 18:30:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A3A918349F; Tue, 19 Apr 2011 18:30:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UGkV4OLvenmZI+GSdC0EDU/6mJdN6NGnfq02ekUhqkA=; b=C8zRkPdF+IzQx6qoQPr999iXtOupBL268TiL4GDPy9EQljD3/bk2QOTV8uJrAyigym hfqS7My4wLFU0DiveCtq2d9O5aFVfrrk3iisqCtdR4p4TlXiWHPQ6p/aWFAGklBm8MI2 vhglv2FZpnKNHgI0fzPiN1P9PTlyQnFT6IfaA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ge1AMmI+g62DdHJia1ZUqUhUJXdTP2fxbu1cEBp4CA+ZNOTWEkro0bmax52/HxJ4/P Aewpbr/iNVYW5ssz+mojjvMVF5L19bQ+rzCbIJgM5NASP55o/sUyLymDywTRqW3k/bpf cZykIjCS2xdgL3xgCj8cAUECIvXQ9odxkrsuA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <162d800a.13acd9.12f6e9e0067.Webtop.42@charter.net> References: <162d800a.13acd9.12f6e9e0067.Webtop.42@charter.net> From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 20:29:47 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: PgaICrqE9VfaeNbx6lg2e3nSRm0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: (OT) selling things on craigslist (was: FS: Line 6 DL4) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <2NCXWB.A.UHD.wSdrNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109047 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 18:30:08 +0000 (UTC) Yeah it was you Rich... dont take nuffink personally... Everyone has had a bad buying/selling experience... We dont really use Craiglist over here, of course.. but EBay is a f***ing nightmare. For selling that is... Buying is fine. The Dot Com version of EBay insists that you select a shipping option, BUT as we dont come from the US, shipping is always more. My wife is having terrible trouble with buyers (she is selling occult books) who insist she is ripping them off, when the shipping comes to more than the book itself.. she just has to say... did you read the ad? It says clearly that we are in Norway! But hanging up on people is what we were talking about... I hate that... maybe mostley because when I answer the phone to salesmen, THEY hang up on ME.. when they hear I am speaking English.. not a word.. no sorry, nothing... often I hit call-back and Say "Hi, I think you just called me, but we were cut off!" heh heh... that makes the buggers squirm! M On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 6:35 PM, wrote: > I think it was more directed at me, for hanging up on the guy. =A0I took = it as > being sarcastic, as well? > I'm a pretty balanced guy. =A0Even though i didn't feel the need to indul= ge > this young kid after he flaked on me, i've gone out of my way to make buy= ers > happy with the gear i've sold recently....such as by taking a loss on > shipping on some stuff and even delivering a pedal to a guys house and > taking a few bucks off even when i had said i was firm on the price. > > Rich > > > On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Art Simon wrote: > >> Hey Mark, >> >> Was that directed at me? I guess I came off as a jerk. I actually >> think I'm nice, and I'm certainly in no rush. Maybe I should "reserve" >> stuff, but it's a drag when people flake. >> >> On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 10:10 PM, mark francombe >> wrote: >>> >>> I hate people LIKE you, god is everyone in such a hurry and are so >>> important that they can't spend 2 mins being er... Nice???? >>> >> -- >> Art Simon >> simart@gmail.com >> myspace [dot] com/artsimon > > --=20 Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 19 19:08:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F4891834A1; Tue, 19 Apr 2011 19:08:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=zUqQ2eogioz8lh+3uqjRe4Y1MWSUJU+U3b3PFzAwX18= c=1 sm=1 a=1GmvzaAlhisA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=uAeZdDYgExgA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=1mPEbzcIwNq/5QazqZV7BA==:17 a=1l0yirPlAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=LK4Z3lV3AAAA:8 a=r1snceQCbJacqvp-ksAA:9 a=HuzR5cCaBvYPM8LwzhQA:7 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=1mPEbzcIwNq/5QazqZV7BA==:117 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 15:08:52 -0400 (EDT) From: thetoyroom@charter.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <775705c6.13d2ff.12f6f2a45ba.Webtop.42@charter.net> Subject: Re: Ukulele Loop Dreams was looping on npr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 42 X-Originating-IP: [12.195.92.82] Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109048 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 19:08:52 +0000 (UTC) i do think i messed up the link, however... http://www.mandaladanceworks.com/music/Jewel_In_The_Belly_(reprise).mp3 picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue, i guess. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:31 AM, thetoyroom@charter.net wrote: > thanks for the link. cool stuff.I've been playing a uke off and on > for a few years now...a gift from a friend who lives in Hawaii, and > i'm really enjoying the simplicity and directness of the instrument. > Here's a old, long languishing song i quickly recorded recently, just > to sketch it out and show it to a group i will be performing the tune > with in a couple of months. the uke is playing the simple picking > part, with tremolo'd guitar and a some ambient guitar washes as well. > http://mandaladanceworks.com/music/Jewel_In_The_Belly_(reprise).mp3 > as for the tuning, it really freaked me out at first, because i've > learned too many instruments at such a rudimentary level (the 'jack of > all trades, master of none' trick), and learning ANOTHER > instrument/tuning was daunting. However, if you take the four high > strings of the guitar at the 5th fret, that's Uke tuning. I was > suddenly relieved, and realized that interesting melodies and chord > clusters learned on the high four strings of the guitar could be > translated directly to the uke, and cool uke chords could be brought > back to the guitar. It kindof tied the two instruments together for > me. Also, on bass, I have a hipshot drop tuner, and instead of tuning > down, I can turn the low E string up one semitone, do the same for the > A string, and then now the bass is in Uke tuning as well, (albeit in > Bflat 6, rather than the C6 tuning of Uke). > > oooh...that sounds sexy....Drop Uke Tuning hahaha.... > > On my uke, i also use a wound low G string and it's an octave lower > than the traditional uke stringing, so it mirrors the guitar more that > way, too. > > My uke is headed to the shop soon to get a pickup installed. looking > forward to it....looped uke....nice! > > regards, > Rich > > > > > On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 8:11 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote: > >> Nice clip! inspiring. >> >> >>> Our own Daniel Thomas (a very accomplished >>> guitarist/multi-instrumentalist) >>> once told me that he thinks he learned more about harmony from >>> playing a ukulele than by all of >>> his guitar playing because of the fact that you have the ability to >>> fret all four strings simultaneously. >> >> >> The thing that was most enlightening for me about the Ukelele is >> that, with only four strings, you strip harmony right down to its >> most fundamental elements. Allowing only four notes, the uke forces >> guitarists to master four note chord voicings ..one finger to a note. >> These voicings seldom involve a barre and as such, they allow for >> super controlled note envelopes on each string (Hard to do with >> Barre). Mastering four note voicing on the UKE really made me much >> more savvy with respect to note choice (why have three Fundamentals >> ringing?) and note duration. I am cleaner and more potent harmonic >> player for it. >> d >> >> On Apr 18, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Rick Walker wrote: >> >>> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, RP Collier wrote: >>>> Tuneyards on Sunday All Things Considered 4/16: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.npr.org/2011/04/17/135443035/tune-yards-expanding-and-grabbing-attention >>> I also think it's very cool that she's recontextualizing the >>> Ukulele. >>> >>> It resonates a lot with what I"ve been trying to do. >>> >>> I've been writing for the last 6 months on several four string >>> instruments, including playing a lot of >>> baritone Ukulele. Our own Daniel Thomas (a very accomplished >>> guitarist/multi-instrumentalist) >>> once told me that he thinks he learned more about harmony from >>> playing a ukulele than by all of >>> his guitar playing because of the fact that you have the ability to >>> fret all four strings simultaneously. >>> >>> Interestingly enough, Joni Mitchell started her whole career by >>> writing songs on a Baritone Ukulele that she bought >>> for $36 because she didn't have enough money for a guitar. >>> >>> It's interesting that when you play one and really thing about >>> modern songwriting, >>> that the natural progression is to begin to retune it. I'm on >>> this kick lately of tuning to a random open tuning >>> and playing it as I go to eat my daily bagel before teaching. I >>> give myself 10 minutes to learn how to play >>> the new tuning (or at least find something interesting in it) and >>> then another 10 minutes to write at least the >>> bare bones of a song on the way home. In this way, I'm >>> attempting to try to free myself of specific tuning >>> concepts and be able to find whatever the instrument gives me to >>> play simply. >>> >>> With it's range, you can get a couple of different sounding octaves >>> from the instrument as a looping source >>> and, of course, with 1/2 speed and 1/4 speed manipulations you can >>> eek even more out of it. >>> >>> To add to all of that, I recently purchased a four string Ukulele >>> bass instrument which has the body of a Baritone Uke, but >>> has black silicon strings on it that make it sound somewhat close to >>> an upright. A fantastic instrument. I'm saving to >>> buy one that is fretless now. >>> >>> rick walker >>> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 19 20:08:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C3F218349F; Tue, 19 Apr 2011 20:08:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_f6224ede-2021-456f-81c1-23f5232b3a75_" X-Originating-IP: [81.132.109.254] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: Monolith demo released Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 20:08:23 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,,,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Apr 2011 20:08:23.0690 (UTC) FILETIME=[8962DEA0:01CBFECD] Resent-Message-ID: <6sgNuD.A.gJF.5uerNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109049 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 20:08:25 +0000 (UTC) --_f6224ede-2021-456f-81c1-23f5232b3a75_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Will do Dennis. Gareth=2C Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > Date: Mon=2C 18 Apr 2011 08:49:18 -0600 > Subject: Re: Monolith demo released > From: sinsofmachaut@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > As Sylvain suggested=2C a Mac port please? >=20 > Let us know as soon as you have one you want tested=3B I'm especially > interested in tools that can be used with minimal Mac horsepower=2C what > with two little DELL Hackintoshes that are NOT "screaming machines" > (one has 2GB of RAM=2C the other has 1GB). >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > Dennis >=20 > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Mon=2C Apr 18=2C 2011 at 6:34 AM=2C Gareth Whittock > wrote: > > Sorry about the lack of readability Sylvain - I'm using a template and > > there's limited editability on the contrast front. A new website is in = the > > pipeline but will be a while and I will bear in mind your comments on = the > > flash build too. > > The mac port is being looked into - I have a contact but need to iron o= ut > > bugs in this version first. > > Thanks for your feedback though. > > > > Peace > > > > > > Gareth@Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > > > > > > > >> Date: Mon=2C 18 Apr 2011 08:24:06 -0400 > >> Subject: Re: Monolith demo released > >> From: sylvain.trombone@gmail.com > >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >> > >> no joy for the mac? > >> (btw=2C all flash website is not ideal... not very accessible for thos= e > >> of us with crappy eyesight who usually resize text to make it more > >> readable=2C to say nothing of search engine optimization...) > >> Sylvain > >> > >> > >> On Mon=2C Apr 18=2C 2011 at 8:00 AM=2C Gareth Whittock > >> wrote: > >> > Some of you instrument expanding types might be interested to try ou= t > >> > the > >> > beta demo... I need feedback! > >> > Incidentally=2C I've been using the 10sec stereo delay as a sort of = looper > >> > on > >> > it. You can play a sound into the loop=2C change sounds to add more= =2C play > >> > over > >> > the top=2C change loop length etc. It's all tempo synchable too - > >> > theoretically... :-) > >> > I'm writing the manual currently so it my be a bit confusing at firs= t... > >> > > >> > Peace > >> > > >> > Gareth@Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com= / > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ________________________________ > >> > > >> > > >=20 = --_f6224ede-2021-456f-81c1-23f5232b3a75_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Will do Dennis.



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>=3B <= br> = --_f6224ede-2021-456f-81c1-23f5232b3a75_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 19 20:45:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B30E183453; Tue, 19 Apr 2011 20:45:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DADF447.3010408@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 13:44:55 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Davignon CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Ukulele Loop Dreams was looping on npr References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109050 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 20:45:03 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > Bass Ukelele sounds a lot like an Ashbory bass to me. Is there much of > a difference? Huge difference, I own both. The new strings on the Bass Ukulele are infinitely easier to play, they are black (cool) and they don't require any baby powder to play (a fact that made the Ashbory bass untenable as a performance instrument (ahhh, just imagine all that baby powder on your perfect Goth black stage clothing). They've really introduced an amazing and brand new instrument. I love mine and for the price (around $300) and the size, (miniscule for a bass) it is a wonderful addition to my little arsenal. come down and try it some time, Matt, You'll want one. Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 19 20:49:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C11D718349F; Tue, 19 Apr 2011 20:49:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DADF543.3030809@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 13:49:07 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Toby G CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Ukulele Loop Dreams was looping on npr References: <2F77C25893894660B48020627443EF94@NORBY11> In-Reply-To: <2F77C25893894660B48020627443EF94@NORBY11> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109051 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 20:49:14 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Toby G wrote: > Ashbury bass has no frets. Read my last reply to Matt. That's not the only difference, The bass uke is a much, much better instrument than the Ashbory in my opinion; vastly easier to play and the strings aren't sticky without baby powder. The good news is that they make the instrument in a fretless mode. I'm saving my pennies now, because that really will sound more like an upright which the instrument does sound like already. Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 19 21:01:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 554AB18349F; Tue, 19 Apr 2011 21:01:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-04-19_09:2011-04-19,2011-04-19,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1104190081 Subject: Re: Ukulele Loop Dreams was looping on npr From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: <4DADF447.3010408@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 14:01:37 -0700 Cc: Matt Davignon Message-id: References: <4DADF447.3010408@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109052 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 21:01:49 +0000 (UTC) > ahhh, just imagine > all that baby powder on your perfect Goth black stage clothing). Wha? ?? They don't make black baby powder? I guess the comfort of Goth babies is low on the priority scale at Johnson and Johnson. And what about Juggalo and EMO babies, eh? And what of the Johnny Cash obsessed? This collection of alternate markets really does merit a black baby powder doesn't it? O--- I almost forgot.. people of African descent! That explains it! I thought we were talking about White Powder but its actually, White Power. Black until Proven White Daniel On Apr 19, 2011, at 1:44 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: >> Bass Ukelele sounds a lot like an Ashbory bass to me. Is there much of >> a difference? > Huge difference, I own both. > > The new strings on the Bass Ukulele are infinitely easier to play, they are black (cool) and they don't require > any baby powder to play (a fact that made the Ashbory bass untenable as a performance instrument (ahhh, just imagine > all that baby powder on your perfect Goth black stage clothing). > > They've really introduced an amazing and brand new instrument. I love mine and for the price (around $300) and the size, > (miniscule for a bass) it is a wonderful addition to my little arsenal. > > come down and try it some time, Matt, You'll want one. > > Rick > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 19 21:15:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1620818349F; Tue, 19 Apr 2011 21:15:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DADFB5F.2040202@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 14:15:11 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thetoyroom@charter.net CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Ukulele Loop Dreams was looping on npr References: <72e7e445.13abdf.12f6e9a75ae.Webtop.42@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <72e7e445.13abdf.12f6e9a75ae.Webtop.42@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5A-mgC.A.7yG.ntfrNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109053 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 21:15:19 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, thetoyroom@charter.net wrote: > it really freaked me out at first, because i've learned too many > instruments at such a rudimentary level (the 'jack of all trades, > master of none' trick), and learning ANOTHER instrument/tuning was > daunting. I know what you mean, Rich, because I'm the poster child for 'jack of all trades, master of none'. I always was triggered by that phrase because my father used it with me when I a quit playing clarinet (already a top chair in our little school band) and started playing drumset instead ("Ha, Dad! I've played that one for 45 years now") but after having played dozens of instruments over the last 20 years of my life I have a different perspective: There are, of course, great rewards for devoting one's life to a single instrument and I love many people I know and admire who have done that. For me, however, constantly learning how to play new instruments and new instrument paradigms (brass, woodwinds, strings plucked, strings bowed, et. al.) helps me to think of music first and technique second. When you keep taking on new instruments, especially when they have radically different technical requirements and approaches, you also get better and better at learning new things. I had a woman at a bar the other evening say, "wow, you can make music out of anything" after I started jamming with the juke box on my beer bottle." Ha, it stroked my fragile ego and made my night but honestly, it's been my goal to do just that. As a producer, for years, I was continually frustrated by musicians who had incredible facility with their instruments but didn't seem to be able to exit their dominant paradigm when it came to creativity. Playing other instruments, especially ones with a radically different approach, can really free one of the confines of thinking one way when playing, I believe. With a few years under my belt since I started playing brass instruments I had a completely fresh approach when I started playing four string fretted instruments this year. I'm so much more aware of harmonics now than before I attempted to play trumpet, whose whole nature is based on harmonics. When I hear a fantastic rendition of Bartok's Concerto for Orchestra, I , of course, am really glad that the French Horn players in the Chicago Symphony put years and years of discipline into their axes and I'm greatly relieved that I am not the one sitting in their chairs with my horrible chops on that instrument so I'm not putting down really sitting down and disciplining oneself to master an instrument. I do, think, however, that Jose Gonzalez's innovative and very, very simple approach to the guitar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6MSkG5txAA&feature=related is just as valid, artistically as Andre Segovia's despite the fact that Seqovia plays rings around Jose, technically. Personally, I listen to a lot of Gonzalez and not much of Segovia but , of course, that proves nothing. So, I'd say, good on you for taking on the ukulele, Rich. Now, I'd suggest you bend your mind and completely retune the little fucker to really throw yourself back into kindegarten in a really unsettling and, hopefully, creative way. with respect, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 19 21:20:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AEA3C18349E; Tue, 19 Apr 2011 21:20:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DADFC7D.60204@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 14:19:57 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Davignon CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Ukulele Loop Dreams was looping on npr References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109054 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 21:20:06 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > ...And the fretless bass ukelele would also have no frets, I imagine. Usually works that way. > Having briefly owned an Ashbory, I noticed that the strings are more > rubbery than I'm used to. When I tried to do a glissando, I always > wound up pulling a bit of the string with me. It also wound up going > out of tune a lot. Instrument stays in tune much better than the Ashbory and the strings (as I replied earlier) are much easier to play and don't have that annoying 'grabbing' quality. Did you ever use baby powder with the Ashbory? That solves that one right away but it's pretty messy.........cool for the studio, however, if you own a vacuum cleaner. > I guess I was checking to see whether the bass uke strings were > significantly different than the Ashbory strings. Yes, they are, see above > Also, is the tuning > different? I can't remember what the tuning was initially as I immediately tuned it to fourths and now I change it's tuning constantly (a bit of a pain as it takes a lot longer to tune because the strings are so stretchy....it takes a lot more tunes to get it in tune, but the good news is that you can really finesse the tuning, commensorately. > A smaller, more portable bass instrument could be cool. Not > sure if it's $400 cool, but cool nonetheless. I got mine for $300 but I guess they've gone up. I love mine.......hands down. rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 19 21:23:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8420318349F; Tue, 19 Apr 2011 21:23:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DADFD2D.5090802@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 14:22:53 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thetoyroom@charter.net CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Ukulele Loop Dreams was looping on npr References: <775705c6.13d2ff.12f6f2a45ba.Webtop.42@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <775705c6.13d2ff.12f6f2a45ba.Webtop.42@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109055 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 21:23:02 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, thetoyroom@charter.net wrote: > i do think i messed up the link, however... > > http://www.mandaladanceworks.com/music/Jewel_In_The_Belly_(reprise).mp3 > > picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue, i guess. Nice one, Rich. So many people stum the Uke, I much prefer finger picking and it makes the instrument far more musical, imho, to do so. The same is true with instruments like the Tres or the Cavaquinho.........usually thought of as rhythm instruments but very beautiful if fingerpicked. rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 19 21:59:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C78C18349F; Tue, 19 Apr 2011 21:59:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=f2tdJOpM/yjNxEKnrDYm+GNTRf/gdKUUt2r4es6yaIA=; b=VqIyRHFJETuyOHE1mzPcqNCnWlJKlHvJOxGqZdT78qL19p/92Bmr9+toRe0P92oPu+ tuG4jaGlxC+dIrKJECosEVPGQlkAGY/obhNM0w7Si3VHGNY2zDuhiLVnla4ba5yl3oLc 4Za4WLCQ0rozr+ld09MIUIswQ1+Z7xWgzAqsE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Xe+oaS83VfnLNlTNZ1wD8eQIAIW0sSynJxCD5FnmNB7g46G9RQma0xUfsvUAzlfzp+ yohXlC4GIubzr5f5GJ9rp9k3+C3crhiipfPr/ZGVoD1ga9xOu5ycSi3WGesg8MbJzDXP olx4uGA9YHIO5NNHLDVX8zobybO/2qdn9HTVo= Message-ID: <4DAE05B2.3050808@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 23:59:14 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Ukulele Loop Dreams was looping on npr References: <72e7e445.13abdf.12f6e9a75ae.Webtop.42@charter.net> <4DADFB5F.2040202@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4DADFB5F.2040202@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109056 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 21:59:15 +0000 (UTC) Dear Rick, as usual, there's a lot I have to say with regard to your statements, but merely to add, not to contradict... > Playing other instruments, especially ones with a radically different > approach, can really free one of the confines > of thinking one way when playing, I believe. With a few years under > my belt since I started playing brass instruments For me, this seems equally important when working as a composer. Back in days of old, when I was well familiar with the piano and the trombone, and had some basic understanding of woodwind and percussion instruments, I could well write a part for a classical chamber ensemble - but doing something for a rock band just didn't work. This changed after I got myself a bass guitar and later a guitar, and even though I am far from even basically mastering those instruments, I have gained an understanding how these instruments work, which enables me to write for them. > When I hear a fantastic rendition of Bartok's Concerto for Orchestra, > I , of course, am really glad that the French Horn Now this is going completely OT, but, for anyone among you who doesn't know this piece - check it out! Bartok rules! ;) Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 19 22:19:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4254418349F; Tue, 19 Apr 2011 22:19:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-04-19_09:2011-04-20,2011-04-19,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=4 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1104190086 Subject: Re: Ukulele Loop Dreams was looping on npr From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: <4DAE05B2.3050808@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 15:19:25 -0700 Message-id: <865C87F4-5C4E-44CD-88C2-F14179FD92C9@mac.com> References: <72e7e445.13abdf.12f6e9a75ae.Webtop.42@charter.net> <4DADFB5F.2040202@cruzio.com> <4DAE05B2.3050808@googlemail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109057 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 22:19:46 +0000 (UTC) Jack of all master of none? I once worried about that a lot. But now, I feel like every instrument we pursue, no matter how far we chose to take it, only contributes to mastery as a holistic musician. For me , it also contributes to my life-long pursuit of the "beginners mind." Granted, this might not be true were I not pretty darned disciplined about a few specific instruments. But, what ever the case, I'll take that awkward beginner's experience over a comfortable expert experience any day.. any stage... any studio. Bring it on. Please do put me on the spot with an instrument I cannot really... stretch what ever talent I might have to the very limit and break me over my own need to be the expert. Playing with Rick and Bill Walker in Worlds Collide was one of the longest and most fruitful beginners mind disciplines I have ever been exposed to. Thanks for that guys. You each continue to make a huge and positive difference in my music and my life! D On Apr 19, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Dear Rick, > > as usual, there's a lot I have to say with regard to your statements, but merely to add, not to contradict... >> Playing other instruments, especially ones with a radically different approach, can really free one of the confines >> of thinking one way when playing, I believe. With a few years under my belt since I started playing brass instruments > For me, this seems equally important when working as a composer. Back in days of old, when I was well familiar with the piano and the trombone, and had some basic understanding of woodwind and percussion instruments, I could well write a part for a classical chamber ensemble - but doing something for a rock band just didn't work. This changed after I got myself a bass guitar and later a guitar, and even though I am far from even basically mastering those instruments, I have gained an understanding how these instruments work, which enables me to write for them. >> When I hear a fantastic rendition of Bartok's Concerto for Orchestra, I , of course, am really glad that the French Horn > Now this is going completely OT, but, for anyone among you who doesn't know this piece - check it out! Bartok rules! > > ;) > > Rainer > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 20 03:13:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5EC08183486; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 03:13:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=w8w5AeQ+6ySyWCLJo5CUWbfqwRRvS7hIFsxSULGlGmM=; b=ZdCnrp3mOmCI/VDQbxJksuqxWGjycMUoNs3/HEadOix5in6sCRZmTN4gkCf04tIvDn M5vCNY/7eItKvS+afDjra0GWLcyrJgfUm5mfc+pFh0xtZ3OF1CxqZv4rs+WRuUCgck4e Vj51kUiwMXcaYveUF5hwsHi3aA4a6n/LEEY7Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=wp7tmkgMI8tdrraunosySormEpPaDorTYTnlQnLfpnCT8KOU1NkK9RJt9q3uPdMxRJ w7O71Z0SV58pnM0ctfWj8c4Nkdm7mhPrHQ9GUkTAl1jgoRJD85yPxeu+NY86U3fZgL2A uQjeezrXbDWF9hD3QX+cwyNNr9oeGvuJHqDmg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 21:13:13 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: FS: Boss Dr 880 From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers_Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec53f8ec15144b004a15101e3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109058 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 03:13:14 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec53f8ec15144b004a15101e3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Selling my drum machine. Yep. http://cgi.ebay.com/BOSS-DOCTOR-RHYTHM-DR-880-DR880-DRUM-MACHINE-/140536263276?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b89d326c#ht_887wt_1139 --bcaec53f8ec15144b004a15101e3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Selling my drum machine. =A0Yep.

--bcaec53f8ec15144b004a15101e3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 20 15:26:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F19A518349F; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 15:26:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: OT: EP-1 (Re: new loop strategy) From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <92965D5D-B9D9-4E13-8806-0D558DC9FC60@baymoon.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 08:26:04 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <92965D5D-B9D9-4E13-8806-0D558DC9FC60@baymoon.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109059 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 15:26:09 +0000 (UTC) On Apr 4, 2011, at 6:18 PM, William Walker wrote: > Xotic ep-1 I just got one of these and am loving it. (It also makes my Lovepedal = Eternity Overdrive a lot happier since that pedal seems horrendously = sensitive to what comes after it.) Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 20 15:56:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE46818349F; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 15:56:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ehLoLw61Lzf06OX8Ivp68YxZG5aLH+XrxvAVibZzhI4=; b=rJlMfxd5w/JlYlZJv29zTeSAq7RSFY7JAstlS4DippupVWaxDLlJh95hB9lDFcH11D ZTu7FcUUuWOeuZ0fpcpo9Uji1iNJ3sfkeGF+rz+R2Pkw9v9J10HO/h0o0F73QEHrfhEm 2j3gPCCst6k2nk+N42fv+4O5OHlw93Nq7WSrg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Pv3l5m1//6QWVHEBGvLKuAA2fD2mRheQIV6TTqUOvKLIDHmZcELQu1WI2rcGLP/Uk6 2YK0Aek52hsx1wWx5EC34puFbFcS7Mfb9lC5+vA0jPfbwjs3jpgqZyZ23nAgnLrIay9I ZO8TKa42zaVM5AVL1LbMzLnb+5V766QoZ+5Ak= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 08:56:06 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FS: Boss Dr 880 From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109060 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 15:56:08 +0000 (UTC) As a drum machinist, I was teased by the 880 for years. I like that it has 4x5 drum pads. That would make it so if you mapped the keys chromatically, it'd be like a bass guitar. But alas, there's no drumroll key, which means it doesn't do the most basic thing I'd need it to do for my stuff. I hear that other than the lack of a drumroll key, it's pretty good. --=20 Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt ^|>^m was like: > Selling my drum machine. =A0Yep. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/BOSS-DOCTOR-RHYTHM-DR-880-DR880-DRUM-MACHINE-/1405362= 63276?pt=3DLH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=3Ditem20b89d326c#ht_887wt_1139 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 20 16:08:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6FF5E18349F; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 16:08:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=3PJDmOAnJ/85DHXMdgbo78eOQaNZYakUhDCs83xLTdc=; b=BcNis4/cy7Rm0Hax/VZYDIbDc/DrRPsNMCdJdLurJBftlH88R3LPNcD9DXIVPFHQOC sP8EdHx+DGdpBT7lbj4QlIPekObJ9h/A7z/3RgK15a2caNv+BqKg0BnyRwv3jzJfrNnE ZFaXPHIvrxL/SgyyEDN0Z87FYEIAqjOJUmyR8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=X2dBb/XuEQRXdhhdrSG+I/J2CFXWxOZSavhF7r6StsQ3ah3VbZwBrqHAConRYWNTBW x2QfEgLzFkVkyWDOrFUfpKW6KoeYil/iEAUZ/894JmMCJY8LdeNXm9IB/bfGF7BQezS7 yL+k0DNclChlfSzkjye8vnobD02OqzUiDUjHQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 11:08:47 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Two new Kaoss things reviews and gripes... From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd28a88f62ad204a15bd672 Resent-Message-ID: <9yCREB.A.hXD.QUwrNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109061 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 16:08:48 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd28a88f62ad204a15bd672 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 mark-thanks for the new kaoss pad reviews. i don't have the new ones, but had the original kp1 and loved it yrs ago. and then about a bit over a yr ago i got a used kp2....which i do love. when i've played w/ the looper (granted it's older now),but it gets some fun sounds going. but the funny thing i seem to remember the original kp1, you could play loop and then play over it (or so i thought-memory could be bad) but so far w/ the kp2, when the loop goes, any other output is muted. but have i read the manual-no. i'm lazy. at least i thought my old kp1 allowd to play along w/ the loop, but my old brain could be mistaken. but i will say that at times the sounds that the kp2 can make (or abuse) is most fun.. the funny thing is that my 7 yr old he will come up while i'm playing and mess w/ the sounds and he gets better stuff out of it than me by just spinning the dial, manipulating thing. he's most good w/ the drum machine stuff, if i kick on some distortion for my guitar at times i can do my "fake buckethead' stuff-which is fun to do! i will say the only down side,as mark mentioned is that the kp2 has a 100 presets-it's impossible to remember specific #s. i know it saves your favorite in a few buttons on top, and the newer models has more "quick buttons i think" for saving...oh well, live w/ the limitations.... but it is a fun box to mess w/. i will say that in listening back to my recording stuff over the last few days, whenever i kick on the kp2, the sounds it makes, it's just jolting at time...quite a surprise & fun!!!! happy looping.... s--- --000e0cd28a88f62ad204a15bd672 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable mark-thanks for the new kaoss pad reviews.

i don't have the new = ones, but had the original kp1 and loved it yrs ago.
and then about a bi= t over a yr ago i got a used kp2....which i do love.

when i've p= layed w/ the looper (granted it's older now),but it gets some fun sound= s going.
but the funny thing i seem to remember the original kp1, you could play loo= p and then play over it (or so i thought-memory could be bad)

but so= far w/ the kp2, when the loop goes, any other output is muted. but have i = read the manual-no. i'm lazy.
at least i thought my old kp1 allowd to play along w/ the loop, but my old = brain could be mistaken.

but i will say that at times the sounds tha= t the kp2 can make (or abuse) is most fun..
the funny thing is that my 7= yr old he will come up while i'm playing and mess w/ the sounds and he= gets better stuff out of it
than me by just spinning the dial, manipulating thing.
he's most goo= d w/ the drum machine stuff, if i kick on some distortion for my guitar at = times i can do my "fake buckethead' stuff-which
is fun to do!
i will say the only down side,as mark mentioned is that the kp2 has a 1= 00 presets-it's impossible to remember specific #s. i know it
saves= your favorite in a few buttons on top, and the newer models has more "= ;quick buttons i think" for saving...oh well, live w/ the limitations.= ...

but it is a fun box to mess w/.
i will say that in listening back to= my recording stuff over the last few days, whenever i kick on the kp2, the= sounds it makes,
it's just jolting at time...quite a surprise &= fun!!!!
happy looping....
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--000e0cd28a88f62ad204a15bd672-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 20 17:44:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E6B4418349F; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 17:44:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DAF1B7E.4070500@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 10:44:30 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rob Hyodo , "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: OT: Upright Bass Pickup? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109062 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 17:44:40 +0000 (UTC) Hi Loopers, Does anyone have a quick answer for this question from a student of mine? Any advice will be greatly appreciated. I don't have the faintest clue, though I wish I owned an upright so I could know the answer. I do own a crappy Guitarron but I don't think that counts, lol. thanks, Rick Walker > > Been meaning to ask you if you know of any relatively affordable > upright bass pickups I can put on my bass. I guess I'd want something > that can get that "snappy" fingerboard-slap sound. :) If you know of > any or can point me to some resources on that, that'd be great! > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 20 18:23:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A08891834A1; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 18:23:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=gAzl8Z5tFy21rXz99KumZgf2+AlrkyIbMQtUzNeYsFY=; b=MKhSY80hQzIhO/8dztFOwhmKy6tqSEzfxcyEupx0AVt7G7P8o27Aj4X3tD55watPm9 eVqU/iPTDHgb20zpEI2PfxTCICt9R0HzC6wfswvuM8jtPVCo29JfsHwZDuM9gecY7Rq8 rJMe1i3P1a9AWuZmlaQZUJ94SGPNYJu6OSTLQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=hFvvOGc6UVt3IkhR2clT7yuyUgksIvMc3/G530HzgEbA8idgRjEOVtySbYInz3PTxt 9plJ2pS5LQb8Kf5WXIZ+vG60RGLYtDWP50oBXc6GiCmprn7RISxAKun2pEGpraM5g/Wt ahcs0NXBTq23vtRpEWSfLVWIHouvjeyuXsG2c= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-746550028 Subject: Re: OT: Upright Bass Pickup? Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 14:23:00 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4DAF1B7E.4070500@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4DAF1B7E.4070500@cruzio.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109063 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 18:23:04 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-746550028 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I vote for Fishman Full Circle. Especially if he uses the bow. Most bass = pickups sound much more like a high speed power drill than a bowed = string instrument. I struggled for awhile trying to find something that = could at least be passable. I still have to use a decent amount of EQ = and a touch of verb for me to be happy with the sound of Full circle = with the bow. The pickup comes as two bridge adjusters that you have = installed into the bridge.=20 If he's just plucking and wants something less permanent he could use = the Realist which is easily installed under one of the bridge feet. = David Gage has a new piezo style pickup the just clips on but I haven't = tried it myself. -Todd Matthews On Apr 20, 2011, at 1:44 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Hi Loopers, >=20 > Does anyone have a quick answer for this question from a student of = mine? > Any advice will be greatly appreciated. I don't have the faintest = clue, though I wish I owned > an upright so I could know the answer. I do own a crappy Guitarron = but I don't think that > counts, lol. >=20 > thanks, Rick Walker >=20 --Apple-Mail-2-746550028 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I = vote for Fishman Full Circle. Especially if he uses the bow. Most bass = pickups sound much more like a high speed power drill than a bowed = string instrument. I struggled for awhile trying to find something that = could at least be passable. I still have to use a decent amount of EQ = and a touch of verb for me to be happy with the sound of Full circle = with the bow. The pickup comes as two bridge  adjusters that you = have installed into the bridge. 

If he's just = plucking and wants something less permanent he could use the Realist = which is easily installed under one of the bridge feet. David Gage has a = new piezo style pickup the just clips on but I haven't tried it = myself.

-Todd = Matthews

On Apr 20, 2011, at 1:44 PM, = Rick Walker wrote:

Hi = Loopers,

Does anyone have a quick answer for this question from a = student of mine?
Any advice will be greatly appreciated.  I = don't have the faintest clue, though I wish I owned
an upright so I = could know the answer.    I do own a crappy Guitarron but = I don't think that
counts,  lol.

thanks,  Rick = Walker


= --Apple-Mail-2-746550028-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 20 18:32:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D411C18349F; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 18:32:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1836 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 18:32:28 UTC X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.11 X-EN-IMPSID: Zu1h1g0060EKrUA0000000 From: Mark Fassett Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-7-745269970 Subject: loop related gig spam? Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 11:01:40 -0700 Message-Id: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-EN-UserInfo: 1aa45254a335cefd23b11c93fa3ec235:b782652f4b17f1a7a6614b5920fe2b10 X-EN-AuthUser: mfassett Sender: Mark Fassett X-EN-OrigIP: 67.180.167.86 X-EN-OrigHost: c-67-180-167-86.hsd1.ca.comcast.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109064 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 18:32:28 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-7-745269970 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My looping band entamoeba is performing in Berkeley, CA in a couple of = weeks.... http://www.ahdanco.org/performances.htm We are providing live music for a dance ensemble, which we composed. = The music is loop based of course. =20 Entamoeba is: mark fassett (me) on electric upright bass, guitar, and looper = (boomerang III, with yamaha magicstomp and roland GT-10) nicole laby on vocals and occasional guitar (roland rc-50, and roland = delay) chris evans on cello (roland rc-30, and roland delay)= --Apple-Mail-7-745269970 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii My looping band entamoeba is performing in Berkeley, CA in a couple of weeks....


We are providing live music for a dance ensemble, which we composed.  The music is loop based of course.    

Entamoeba is:

mark fassett (me) on electric upright bass, guitar, and looper (boomerang III, with yamaha magicstomp and roland GT-10)
nicole laby on vocals and occasional guitar (roland rc-50, and roland delay)
chris evans on cello (roland rc-30, and roland delay)
--Apple-Mail-7-745269970-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 20 18:32:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E37781834A4; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 18:32:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-04-20_06:2011-04-20,2011-04-20,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1104200084 Subject: Re: OT: Upright Bass Pickup? From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: <4DAF1B7E.4070500@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 11:32:38 -0700 Cc: Rob Hyodo Message-id: <23A5A4C7-F2B3-499F-9077-889D669DE0E7@mac.com> References: <4DAF1B7E.4070500@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109065 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 18:32:41 +0000 (UTC) The best option I know of for stringed instruments is not a pick up: the DPA 4099 clip on mic. About $500. A good pick up system is of similar cost-- Schertler has a line of good sounding stringed instrument pick ups . The lower cost products (i.e. FIshman BP) don't come close to either of these options sonically but are useable --IMO, at the under $200 price point there isn't a lot of diff in the quality of the transducers. D On Apr 20, 2011, at 10:44 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > Hi Loopers, > > Does anyone have a quick answer for this question from a student of mine? > Any advice will be greatly appreciated. I don't have the faintest clue, though I wish I owned > an upright so I could know the answer. I do own a crappy Guitarron but I don't think that > counts, lol. > > thanks, Rick Walker > >> >> Been meaning to ask you if you know of any relatively affordable upright bass pickups I can put on my bass. I guess I'd want something that can get that "snappy" fingerboard-slap sound. :) If you know of any or can point me to some resources on that, that'd be great! >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 20 18:52:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B5B118349E; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 18:52:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DAF2B79.9090608@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 11:52:41 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Re: Ukulele Loop Dreams was looping on npr References: <4DAE05B2.3050808@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4DAE05B2.3050808@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5zlSo.A.meH.CuyrNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109066 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 18:52:50 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Now this is going completely OT, but, for anyone among you who doesn't > know this piece - check it out! Bartok rules! Yes, I heartily second your recommendation, Rainer. To me, the use of quite dynamics in the Concerto for Orchestra is one of the highlights in my musical experience. To hear a really superb orchestra play this piece of music is just indescribable. You just can't get it on a recording of any kind. I also love his 6 'String Quartets' and the sublime 'Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta'. Bartok has an amazing way of using dissonance mixed with really beautiful and sometimes very inside harmony. He's modern and classic in the same breath which, to me, is a hard thing to pull off in modern classical music. What are some of your favorites, Rainer? There is much of his music I haven't experienced. Rick Walker who's on a huge Impressionist classical music binge lately, listening to a lot of Ravel, Debussy, Faure, Satie and then a bunch of Elgar, Britten and Ralph Vaughn Williams ..........."The Lark Ascending" is just so achingly sad and beautiful by the latter. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 20 18:53:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B8701834A1; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 18:53:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1303325610; bh=t91mKZ4NuoV5oHo/gY7+MQBCDSWRVNU8e5viygFKClA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fGXoCJVwSlWjJraSG6N/QvqfrVQVbwYC6J0/W6Tuh2dXLchhxg0hWwVl+HhaSfX7j8mQFOdGCsJ5efNvlhrJSV3DjVHFPQUfZf03xL5gdq/TIzf2w6UYjxJQi8l4TFH0n0X+w++vEYlNnWlWGnqgC6bT21JIGNn+y+eAHso1SuE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CRhBGXP7XVjF7E8vSGrGAcEHYy9ecLaPKnk4ko27M21LAbm6vwScOnyKvkYu1WCv93XkI5+K1F2TVe4ZczzMH4qwVY5DFrTr4zj+hBETtcterm+JF9lPpTU/AYjj8yi8A78wiFt9loazQtS2EtEqzwVcSqBejJvZrG889gmHI70=; Message-ID: <59110.35255.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: O29orTIVM1nz3R02.EWj1acYGFh4hkrEEo1Cw4.dHg1iwpP vmwMljj6r0s.19hXMk9.lBi65ule1AZTEb7O16eTztQDyjP0pf3LFZG_YGCc k6uEkLTS5iry8XcXoC1Qo56TMUNd1llO5eCO6.a2EUjVLjc6MizSZ9dpPa3_ FpG7L_Y9acfl7QXpEwhbLKhHF12w2aKjt7whSpxUA697EuDhTniW826E7pyI 0leccEhdJ7Lb.k6TH9OZhIKUD4yD3X5lxI2TOxXGkYS4oofNj993qy7yTSEI GLK8F6ZWvo9CutieOXh_u5wW.Wtf97Rnrduz.ArjjRWlXSeMFt7Jhw_Y_IKL ODvurwBPlRiwlgHfkaKDMs4d55fJ6X8I2ZThZIafbaFUr3uXfTJPay.1XuAE vWw8ZTa6dvrfnZQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/12.0.2 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 11:53:30 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Subject: Re: OT: Upright Bass Pickup? To: Rob Hyodo , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4DAF1B7E.4070500@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1697381833-1303325610=:35255" Resent-Message-ID: <6bL9J.A.1kH.ruyrNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109067 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 18:53:31 +0000 (UTC) --0-1697381833-1303325610=:35255 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0 Plenty of good choices here: http://www.gollihurmusic.com/category/7-UPRIGH= T_BASS_PICKUPS.html =A0 If your student is looking for the slap sound,=A0the rockabilly people appa= rently like the K&K Bass Max as it has a mic to go along the neck. =A0 There's also talkbass p/u forum for double basses - http://www.talkbass.com= /forum/f4/ Choosing a bass p/u's can be REAL messy - pre-amps, amps (high z or low z i= nputs), are you playing outside (minus one for mic's, then), etc. all come = into play.=A0=20 =A0 I have a Revolution Solo - http://www.uptonbass.com/Double-Bass-Pickup-Revo= lution-SOLO-II-RS2/=A0- which I like except that the cord is microphonic an= d makes a loud noise when bumped.=A0 It doesn't need a pre-amp but I run it= through an MXR 10-band box to boost a few frequencies and the signal level= . =A0 Good luck to your student.=A0 He's heading down a road that'll take=A0every= penny he has... ;-) =A0 =A0 ted harms. Or would you sing somethin' different. Somethin' real. Somethin' *you* felt= . Cause I'm telling you right now, that's the kind of song people want to h= ear. That's the kind of song that truly saves people. It ain't got nothin t= o do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with believin' in yourse= lf. Sam Phillips, "Walk the Line" --- On Wed, 4/20/11, Rick Walker wrote: From: Rick Walker Subject: OT: Upright Bass Pickup? To: "Rob Hyodo" , "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Received: Wednesday, April 20, 2011, 10:44 AM Hi Loopers, Does anyone have a quick answer for this question from a student of mine? Any advice will be greatly appreciated.=A0 I don't have the faintest clue, = though I wish I owned an upright so I could know the answer.=A0 =A0 I do own a crappy Guitarron b= ut I don't think that counts,=A0 lol. thanks,=A0 Rick Walker >=20 > Been meaning to ask you if you know of any relatively affordable upright = bass pickups I can put on my bass. I guess I'd want something that can get = that "snappy" fingerboard-slap sound. :) If you know of any or can point me= to some resources on that, that'd be great! >=20 >=20 --0-1697381833-1303325610=:35255 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 
If your student is looking for the slap sound, the rockabilly peo= ple apparently like the K&K Bass Max as it has a mic to go along the ne= ck.
 
There's also talkbass p/u forum for double basses - http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f4/

Choosing a bass p/u's can be REAL messy - pre-amps, amps (high z o= r low z inputs), are you playing outside (minus one for mic's, then), etc. = all come into play. 
 
I have a Revolution Solo - http://www.uptonbass.com/Double-Bass-P= ickup-Revolution-SOLO-II-RS2/ - which I like except that the cord = is microphonic and makes a loud noise when bumped.  It doesn't need a = pre-amp but I run it through an MXR 10-band box to boost a few frequencies = and the signal level.
 
Good luck to your student.  He's heading down a road that'll take=  every penny he has... ;-)
 
 
ted harms.

Or would you sing somethin' different. Somethin' real. Somethin' *= you* felt. Cause I'm telling you right now, that's the kind of song people = want to hear. That's the kind of song that truly saves people. It ain't got= nothin to do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with believin' = in yourself. Sam Phillips, "Walk the Line"

--- On Wed, 4/20/11, R= ick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

From: Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>
= Subject: OT: Upright Bass Pickup?
To: "Rob Hyodo" <robhyodo@gmail.com= >, "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com&g= t;
Received: Wednesday, April 20, 2011, 10:44 AM

Hi Loopers,

Does anyone have a quick answer f= or this question from a student of mine?
Any advice will be greatly appr= eciated.  I don't have the faintest clue, though I wish I owned
an = upright so I could know the answer.    I do own a crappy Guitarro= n but I don't think that
counts,  lol.

thanks,  Rick Wa= lker

>
> Been meaning to ask you if you know of any relati= vely affordable upright bass pickups I can put on my bass. I guess I'd want= something that can get that "snappy" fingerboard-slap sound. :) If you kno= w of any or can point me to some resources on that, that'd be great!
>= ;
>

--0-1697381833-1303325610=:35255-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 20 18:56:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 06B531834A5; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 18:56:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DAF2C5F.2030904@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 11:56:31 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Thomas CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Ukulele Loop Dreams was looping on npr References: <865C87F4-5C4E-44CD-88C2-F14179FD92C9@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <865C87F4-5C4E-44CD-88C2-F14179FD92C9@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8ZuKu.A.qsH.mxyrNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109068 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 18:56:38 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote: > Playing with Rick and Bill Walker in Worlds Collide was one of the longest and most fruitful beginners mind disciplines I have ever been exposed to. Thanks for that guys. You each continue to make a huge and positive difference in my music and my life! Honestly, Daniel, your embracing of the 'beginners mind' concept was always a marvel for me to behold all throughout that bands history. You seemed pretty fearless about taking on new things for that band and you've always been an inspiration to me if the truth is known in the way that you would just dive into a brand new musical experience. I love hitting the sandbox with you!!!! let's do it some more before we get much older. love, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 20 19:28:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2B4C1834AB; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 19:28:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=/rj7/A7w+lSAygF5jgxNHRqQFE4oBTaZT0zN3HmBFvE=; b=WCyCbjmqSkpPwD8tazuUGoaVkRXYFNPPsXJvQAPH70ahKRWOMDYlfGSpDF0ViANZHf iHpxsPLLCveMHmgME6TFsmUYz0pVmbXDJUXG+fRPWzlqiH1ilYsAWsQ1xcYxv6kyNJq/ RjeeY8xY249pCG4kOBvraxzlAdDN3tYp8Zif4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; b=TZK+ktxCbf5tgnuXX1LZz0+nweVeJ/sgahj7Qfkp/s1Lq/dZ+r0lUSatU7FzCnb/oJ AAFvsdIoSoYrpCa8g1zfQGfU182+WKwAMUD2pdvUXbimW3V2awE2kXW0GQlBgzhWy2RL lYDLfVfTLsIqW7YaLBDNAKYe3a0DlsBypVyq8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:28:10 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 63g7zT7j_FVMJQ68azNEymG6u9Q Message-ID: Subject: Tuning ethnic instrument To: loopers-delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109069 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 19:28:32 +0000 (UTC) Directed mainly at Rick, but anyone else wanna chip in.. Ive been tuning my Saz (Baglama,) its been a while and I cant remember the tuning. Its a 23 fret Baglama, and as such my book says G D A.. however I cant pull the strings to that tension... either the strings will break, the tuning pegs or my fingers...!!! I have an alternative tuning hear, that is supposed to be for a 19 fret Saz, A G D. Now heres my question... one string tunes fine to any pitch, smoothly and easilly, Now is that just cos that string is lighter... or is it because the peg hole is somehow smoother.. is there a trick with.. Oh.. I dont know... rubbing oil / wax / Linseed oil / Semen?? On the peg? Any tricks from the teepee? -- Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 20 19:33:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1478E1834A0; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 19:33:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_cc32fa73-481f-4911-ad3d-1b5b22a4d8c3_" X-Originating-IP: [170.104.174.208] From: Jeremy devros To: Subject: RE: OT: Upright Bass Pickup? Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 12:33:17 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4DAF1B7E.4070500@cruzio.com> References: ,<4DAF1B7E.4070500@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Apr 2011 19:33:18.0528 (UTC) FILETIME=[CD066400:01CBFF91] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109070 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 19:33:19 +0000 (UTC) --_cc32fa73-481f-4911-ad3d-1b5b22a4d8c3_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rick=2C I'm studying w/ Glen Moore --I can ask what he uses=2C but I doubt it's "af= fordable" I know his NS has two different P/Us=3B not sure about his Klotz. I'll ask = on Sat. JD =20 > Date: Wed=2C 20 Apr 2011 10:44:30 -0700 > From: looppool@cruzio.com > To: robhyodo@gmail.com=3B Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: OT: Upright Bass Pickup? >=20 > Hi Loopers=2C >=20 > Does anyone have a quick answer for this question from a student of mine? > Any advice will be greatly appreciated. I don't have the faintest clue=2C= =20 > though I wish I owned > an upright so I could know the answer. I do own a crappy Guitarron=20 > but I don't think that > counts=2C lol. >=20 > thanks=2C Rick Walker >=20 > > > > Been meaning to ask you if you know of any relatively affordable=20 > > upright bass pickups I can put on my bass. I guess I'd want something=20 > > that can get that "snappy" fingerboard-slap sound. :) If you know of=20 > > any or can point me to some resources on that=2C that'd be great! > > > > >=20 = --_cc32fa73-481f-4911-ad3d-1b5b22a4d8c3_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rick=2C
I'm studying w/ Glen Moore --I can ask what he uses=2C but I doubt it's "af= fordable"
I know his NS has two different P/Us=3B not sure about his Klotz. I'll ask = on Sat.
JD
 =3B
>=3B Date: Wed=2C 20 Apr 2011 10:44:30 -0700
>=3B From: looppool@cru= zio.com
>=3B To: robhyodo@gmail.com=3B Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight= .com
>=3B Subject: OT: Upright Bass Pickup?
>=3B
>=3B Hi Lo= opers=2C
>=3B
>=3B Does anyone have a quick answer for this ques= tion from a student of mine?
>=3B Any advice will be greatly appreciat= ed. I don't have the faintest clue=2C
>=3B though I wish I owned
&= gt=3B an upright so I could know the answer. I do own a crappy Guitarron >=3B but I don't think that
>=3B counts=2C lol.
>=3B
>= =3B thanks=2C Rick Walker
>=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Been= meaning to ask you if you know of any relatively affordable
>=3B >= =3B upright bass pickups I can put on my bass. I guess I'd want something <= BR>>=3B >=3B that can get that "snappy" fingerboard-slap sound. :) If y= ou know of
>=3B >=3B any or can point me to some resources on that= =2C that'd be great!
>=3B >=3B
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= = --_cc32fa73-481f-4911-ad3d-1b5b22a4d8c3_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 20 19:33:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8954F1834A1; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 19:33:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XOq8UzcifyDgRyPWf+V4jyrJeEAqoopr3iN3bPcMjh4=; b=XHRYUY4lgW7BCzJU7HKU8Dk8C3+ZL/IhSGRhDNbraY/yel0SldnsI53tH2kpJ8IIYf YRmWSaBSNF3c5GEnhvfRHke/VYmvGrGZBrsQTxfz7luxs+x7FEHIy/w1HJxvI3EiFEDu VF0yFYTEJ7N+eovPj+vQbg7E88y4Q3vNtK7VE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=T/JlQaoPEit0GvRUQ2P/68jjpQ0BKHAjISWpcaP3YVbwRklZuwHMLtwS4lnKka+vn5 TRxL/VDIFzyf7FzLNRSrqm9wWwdhLOcVaHm//lQ3IBd/nwpwOZ3D2ikYiv2sJOld2cTV xCKyDlZSjV5+AG2wK7P7zyr/BfZMEedUYjnrU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 15:33:33 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Tuning ethnic instrument From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce0b71e48b6f804a15eb30b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109071 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 19:33:34 +0000 (UTC) --000e0ce0b71e48b6f804a15eb30b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark have experienced similar on my oud. I use Peg Dopewhich is a liquid that freezes up the pegs a bit to keep from slipping. I think the slight variation between pairs can be something about the pegs. In my case it's a cheap instrument and I suppose the more cash the better QC. Also in my case it's nylon strings and that's another variable of instability during settling in time. What does the saz have for strings? Jim On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 3:28 PM, mark francombe wro= te: > Directed mainly at Rick, but anyone else wanna chip in.. > > Ive been tuning my Saz (Baglama,) its been a while and I cant remember > the tuning. Its a 23 fret Baglama, and as such my book says G D A.. > however I cant pull the strings to that tension... either the strings > will break, the tuning pegs or my fingers...!!! I have an alternative > tuning hear, that is supposed to be for a 19 fret Saz, A G D. > > Now heres my question... one string tunes fine to any pitch, smoothly > and easilly, Now is that just cos that string is lighter... or is it > because the peg hole is somehow smoother.. is there a trick with.. > Oh.. I dont know... rubbing oil / wax / Linseed oil / Semen?? On the > peg? > > Any tricks from the teepee? > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --000e0ce0b71e48b6f804a15eb30b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark have experienced similar on my oud.=A0 I use Peg Dope wh= ich is a liquid that freezes up the pegs a bit to keep from slipping.=A0 I = think the slight variation between pairs can be something about the pegs.= =A0 In my case it's a cheap instrument and I suppose the more cash the = better QC.=A0 Also in my case it's nylon strings and that's another= variable of instability during settling in time.=A0 What does the saz have= for strings?

Jim

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 3:28 PM, = mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
Directed mainly at Rick, but anyone else wanna chip in..

Ive been tuning my Saz (Baglama,) its been a while and I cant remember
the tuning. Its a 23 fret Baglama, and as such my book says G D A..
however I cant pull the strings to that tension... either the strings
will break, the tuning pegs or my fingers...!!! I have an alternative
tuning hear, that is supposed to be for a 19 fret Saz, =A0A G D.

Now heres my question... one string tunes fine to any pitch, smoothly
and easilly, Now is that just cos that string is lighter... or is it
because the peg hole is somehow smoother.. is there a trick with..
Oh.. I dont know... rubbing oil / wax / Linseed oil / Semen?? On the
peg?

Any tricks from the teepee?

--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancomb= e.com
www.ordoabkhao.com<= /a>
http://vimeo.com/= user825094
http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe




--
From Brooklyn= To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter= Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF Interna= tional.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--000e0ce0b71e48b6f804a15eb30b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 20 19:34:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F54F18349F; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 19:34:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=zabHeX/ltGpB0205ytExWKjdj2vuUDEIoH36NSbtvF8=; b=ZxgmMdz9hRIk6pS4aAVZlKQg2FwjkkATK1Kppf7P9neifaA2n+lVO/RJ0wJblKcrAW OM8+Bcklumrt+7gjN2CSdzn8BskL3UyTeGZeBo6/cbRFXDh3zWEcsVgA8lhweNoBG9nL bllr0BvaD1L2sSYd/8cnqGgZ1y3xmDBnT/Wrg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=q2IpTjF3sI6+SdKRthn4ST3Nuiu+ILpYXZC5ZBcc4N/he20tAugr1xHsN5DULNArnY ggJQ+PrVi8iq5C6nQ8yPd51VwC9WfeF93nYh7r+j5rA1/bcZ+fBVk/sVHgy4f9Hzsu4+ EaYrHe6PvNtVdh9EMgFllz5ma2bSgsCEDH44k= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Ukulele Loop Dreams was looping on npr From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: <4DAF2B79.9090608@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 15:34:38 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7FB4F6AD-26FA-4571-8440-2A218411FADB@gmail.com> References: <4DAE05B2.3050808@googlemail.com> <4DAF2B79.9090608@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109072 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 19:34:39 +0000 (UTC) If you haven't already, check out Bluebeard's Castle, his opera. Iz some = bad ass Bartok. -Todd Matthews On Apr 20, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > What are some of your favorites, Rainer? There is much of his = music I haven't experienced. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 20 19:37:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 910831834A0; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 19:37:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_401d2459-d2c3-46e6-a98b-6bbae1c8a49d_" X-Originating-IP: [170.104.174.208] From: Jeremy devros To: Subject: RE: Tuning ethnic instrument Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 12:37:01 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Apr 2011 19:37:03.0110 (UTC) FILETIME=[52E2E260:01CBFF92] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109073 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 19:37:04 +0000 (UTC) --_401d2459-d2c3-46e6-a98b-6bbae1c8a49d_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've played saz for some time and not had too many problems getting the GDA= tuning --Like ouds=2C etc. they are tempermental w/ humidity & temperature= .=20 I assume you've tried tuning them as high as possible and letting them sit = n stretch? JD =20 > From: mark@markfrancombe.com > Date: Wed=2C 20 Apr 2011 21:28:10 +0200 > Subject: Tuning ethnic instrument > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Directed mainly at Rick=2C but anyone else wanna chip in.. >=20 > Ive been tuning my Saz (Baglama=2C) its been a while and I cant remember > the tuning. Its a 23 fret Baglama=2C and as such my book says G D A.. > however I cant pull the strings to that tension... either the strings > will break=2C the tuning pegs or my fingers...!!! I have an alternative > tuning hear=2C that is supposed to be for a 19 fret Saz=2C A G D. >=20 > Now heres my question... one string tunes fine to any pitch=2C smoothly > and easilly=2C Now is that just cos that string is lighter... or is it > because the peg hole is somehow smoother.. is there a trick with.. > Oh.. I dont know... rubbing oil / wax / Linseed oil / Semen?? On the > peg? >=20 > Any tricks from the teepee? >=20 > --=20 > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe >=20 = --_401d2459-d2c3-46e6-a98b-6bbae1c8a49d_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've played saz for some time and not had too many problems getting the GDA= tuning --Like =3Bouds=2C etc. they are tempermental w/ humidity &= =3B temperature.
I assume you've tried tuning them =3Bas high as possible and letting th= em sit n stretch?
JD
 =3B
>=3B From: mark@markfrancombe.com
>=3B Date: Wed=2C 20 Apr 2011 21:2= 8:10 +0200
>=3B Subject: Tuning ethnic instrument
>=3B To: Looper= s-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
>=3B Directed mainly at Rick= =2C but anyone else wanna chip in..
>=3B
>=3B Ive been tuning my= Saz (Baglama=2C) its been a while and I cant remember
>=3B the tuning= . Its a 23 fret Baglama=2C and as such my book says G D A..
>=3B howev= er I cant pull the strings to that tension... either the strings
>=3B = will break=2C the tuning pegs or my fingers...!!! I have an alternative
= >=3B tuning hear=2C that is supposed to be for a 19 fret Saz=2C A G D.>=3B
>=3B Now heres my question... one string tunes fine to any pi= tch=2C smoothly
>=3B and easilly=2C Now is that just cos that string i= s lighter... or is it
>=3B because the peg hole is somehow smoother.. = is there a trick with..
>=3B Oh.. I dont know... rubbing oil / wax / L= inseed oil / Semen?? On the
>=3B peg?
>=3B
>=3B Any tricks = from the teepee?
>=3B
>=3B --
>=3B Mark Francombe
>= =3B www.markfrancombe.com
>=3B www.ordoabkhao.com
>=3B http://vim= eo.com/user825094
>=3B http://www.looop.no
>=3B twitter @markfran= combe
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= --_401d2459-d2c3-46e6-a98b-6bbae1c8a49d_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 20 20:23:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83A491834AF; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 20:23:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 609159466/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.191.189/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.191.189 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: An0CAJQ/r01V0r+9/2dsb2JhbAANl2qXMb4zhXEEkhQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.64,247,1301871600"; d="scan'208";a="609159466" Message-ID: <4DAF40CC.4080607@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:23:40 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Tuning ethnic instrument References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_b33bB.A.RGC.CD0rNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109074 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 20:23:30 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: > Directed mainly at Rick, but anyone else wanna chip in.. > > Ive been tuning my Saz (Baglama,) its been a while and I cant remember > the tuning. Its a 23 fret Baglama, and as such my book says G D A.. > however I cant pull the strings to that tension... either the strings > will break, the tuning pegs or my fingers...!!! That may be because you're trying to tune it an octave too high. (common thing to try, as the strings are normally very slack compared to guitar). My Baglama Saz is tuned G D A, with a scale length of 32 inches. >I have an alternative > tuning hear, that is supposed to be for a 19 fret Saz, A G D. There are many alternatives. A D A is nice to start with. > > Now heres my question... one string tunes fine to any pitch, smoothly > and easilly, Now is that just cos that string is lighter... or is it > because the peg hole is somehow smoother.. is there a trick with.. > Oh.. I dont know... rubbing oil / wax / Linseed oil / Semen?? On the > peg? Sometimes wooden pegs get hard to turn just because they got pushed in too far. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 20 20:56:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 587621834A0; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 20:56:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_vDBumWNpOO01e8ytNsLJPA)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-04-20_07:2011-04-20,2011-04-20,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1104200108 From: Daniel Thomas Subject: Re: Tuning ethnic instrument Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 13:56:19 -0700 In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109075 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 20:56:22 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_vDBumWNpOO01e8ytNsLJPA) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT If the pegs are slipping continuously, size of peg and hole is the issue. Some times a little candle wax can help with this. If the pegs are sticky when turned, then peg dope can help. Bowed Instrument shops often sell the stuff. Many folks make their own from soap and chalk. all that said-- a well built instrument is the best. Daniel On Apr 20, 2011, at 12:28 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Directed mainly at Rick, but anyone else wanna chip in.. > > Ive been tuning my Saz (Baglama,) its been a while and I cant remember > the tuning. Its a 23 fret Baglama, and as such my book says G D A.. > however I cant pull the strings to that tension... either the strings > will break, the tuning pegs or my fingers...!!! I have an alternative > tuning hear, that is supposed to be for a 19 fret Saz, A G D. > > Now heres my question... one string tunes fine to any pitch, smoothly > and easilly, Now is that just cos that string is lighter... or is it > because the peg hole is somehow smoother.. is there a trick with.. > Oh.. I dont know... rubbing oil / wax / Linseed oil / Semen?? On the > peg? > > Any tricks from the teepee? > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > --Boundary_(ID_vDBumWNpOO01e8ytNsLJPA) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable all that said-- a well built instrument is the = best.

Daniel 
On Apr 20, = 2011, at 12:28 PM, mark francombe wrote:

Directed mainly at Rick, but anyone else wanna chip = in..

Ive been tuning my Saz (Baglama,) its been a while and I = cant remember
the tuning. Its a 23 fret Baglama, and as such my book = says G D A..
however I cant pull the strings to that tension... = either the strings
will break, the tuning pegs or my fingers...!!! I = have an alternative
tuning hear, that is supposed to be for a 19 fret = Saz,  A G D.

Now heres my question... one string tunes fine = to any pitch, smoothly
and easilly, Now is that just cos that string = is lighter... or is it
because the peg hole is somehow smoother.. is = there a trick with..
Oh.. I dont know... rubbing oil / wax / Linseed = oil / Semen?? On the
peg?

Any tricks from the = teepee?

--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ord= oabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitt= er = @markfrancombe


= --Boundary_(ID_vDBumWNpOO01e8ytNsLJPA)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 20 22:29:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 16E5418349D; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 22:29:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=aqMe+0lCtaYvy4h0jyaoPGyq+DPF+P6rPG2xbekoY9Q= c=1 sm=0 a=5UBfXvP3Od8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Pq5w6/OiCe8pl5iuHRIo4A==:17 a=pA6rFxitgZMN1qUNvJgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Pq5w6/OiCe8pl5iuHRIo4A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 66.25.180.248 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Tuning ethnic instrument From: Victor Eijkhout In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 17:29:45 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1E2DB523-30F1-4F01-8E29-BBCB7CAE8159@eijkhout.net> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109076 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 22:29:47 +0000 (UTC) On Apr 20, 2011, at 2:28 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Its a 23 fret Baglama, and as such my book says G D A.. Another common one is E D A, so the E is both lower and higher (because = it has two strings an octave apart) than the D. That said, I'm tuning G D G because I'm mostly droning chords. In that = case the outer G strings are tuned the same. I started out with the bass = G string a whole octave lower, but then it becomes very slack and it = rattles too much. Do you play looping music with your saz? Link? Victor. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 20 22:36:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0DC7B18349D; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 22:36:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DAF5FF4.9090504@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 15:36:36 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mark francombe CC: loopers-delight Subject: Re: Tuning ethnic instrument References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109077 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 22:36:46 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Directed mainly at Rick, but anyone else wanna chip in.. > > Ive been tuning my Saz (Baglama,) its been a while and I cant remember > the tuning. Its a 23 fret Baglama, and as such my book says G D A.. > however I cant pull the strings to that tension... either the strings > will break, the tuning pegs or my fingers...!!! I have an alternative > tuning hear, that is supposed to be for a 19 fret Saz, A G D. > > Now heres my question... one string tunes fine to any pitch, smoothly > and easilly, Now is that just cos that string is lighter... or is it > because the peg hole is somehow smoother.. is there a trick with.. > Oh.. I dont know... rubbing oil / wax / Linseed oil / Semen?? On the > peg? > > Any tricks from the teepee? > Wish I knew but I don't. I have a saz that has always had tuning problems. I have heard that a lot of both saz and oud players have replaced their pegs with either viola or cello pegs but have never tried that. It stands to reason as they are , of course, going to be well made. My instrument sounds good but the tuners are shite. Let me know what you learn. Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 20 22:50:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C622618349D; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 22:50:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=ZtuXOl23UuD1yoJUTgnZ6i6Z5VPlPhPMWCeUNtN8OGA= c=1 sm=0 a=5UBfXvP3Od8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Pq5w6/OiCe8pl5iuHRIo4A==:17 a=Fk4hGNMkN0yf2ReBiGoA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Pq5w6/OiCe8pl5iuHRIo4A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 66.25.180.248 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Tuning ethnic instrument From: Victor Eijkhout In-Reply-To: <4DAF5FF4.9090504@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 17:50:41 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4DAF5FF4.9090504@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <9oKeLB.A.ZwE.DN2rNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109078 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 22:50:43 +0000 (UTC) On Apr 20, 2011, at 5:36 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > I have heard that a lot of both saz and oud players have replaced = their pegs with > either viola or cello pegs but have never tried that. Those are just as hard to tune. The oud that I bought a while back has so-called "peg heads". Those are = guitar tuners hidden in what looks like violin tuning pegs. They are = absolutely amazing. Very accurate and very smooth. Victor. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 21 01:40:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE4E518349D; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 01:40:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <133D6B54-BFC1-4B35-8AD0-55EF63B0B93C@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT: Moog lap steel Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 18:40:14 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109079 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 01:40:23 +0000 (UTC) Dear Friends I was very moved by the positive support I got from you all surrounding this opportunity I had with Moog, Though I would love to own one and it would be great to get one for free, the reality is they are a company that is simply not big enough to give stuff away, and if they do have some budget for that, I would assume it generally goes to much more high profile guys than I. There might be the possibility of some kind of discount artist's price but regardless I appreciate the sentiment., and the encouragement I've gotten both off list and on. They are sending one out to me with the idea that I will lead a round table review of it for Guitar Player magazine with Robert Powell and David Phillips, two excellent, forward thinking lap and pedal steel players from SF that will be posted on Line, with a possible print review as well. Thanks Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 21 02:13:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A236318349D; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 02:13:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ANGdjhn9A5NavAbfdFbbEdcX7idouNeTIDRsdjs3yKE=; b=I02fOVTV4tR+C5joaFOVw70GCxgXm2opHjDACyBHaD9e9YZbMw2sfAT/vKU6BI7C5L dwld8DHHLYXZG4Rj2yDDUpDTC5IpniJHJvu9P+o8Qlk06wBdOj3pcYlJCi8NI6XCyJ1z nqFzP6CVcAkulORVFgGu57+Fu6bXbEpCZyDOU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RoGycFxgh7pFDEkmWXqL1XQ2CAqevAV3mXmZNrizJWWK4LUW0dCwE+zEMDAxy/NssB ZQq4BWD43bpDTPLoEDsZ4S+VAD8shxchUJIIJXKJ3X2Ymq+zI/3mhXajRzgoB1xCkBi5 H1GKCwmL0a5RKZN+kf7KSBIM+VCxLWYw8wHvM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <133D6B54-BFC1-4B35-8AD0-55EF63B0B93C@baymoon.com> References: <133D6B54-BFC1-4B35-8AD0-55EF63B0B93C@baymoon.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 19:13:37 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Moog lap steel From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109080 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 02:13:38 +0000 (UTC) Bill, What do you mean "high profile?" There isn't a better person to show what the Moog lap steel can do. Off the top of my head, I can't think of anyone else who is as interested in experimenting with the lap steel and electronics. But the real reason is that you make such beautiful music. Moog couldn't do better than just let you play their lap steel so that people can listen. On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 6:40 PM, William Walker wr= ote: > Dear Friends I was very moved by the positive support I got from you all > =A0surrounding this opportunity I had with Moog, =A0Though I would love t= o own > one and it would be great to get one for free, the reality is they are a > company that is simply not big enough to give stuff away, and if they do > have some budget for that, I would assume it generally goes to much more > high profile guys than I. =A0There might be the possibility of some kind = of > discount artist's price but regardless I appreciate the sentiment., and t= he > encouragement I've gotten both off list and on. They are sending one out = to > me with the idea that I will lead a round table review of it =A0for Guita= r > Player magazine =A0with =A0Robert Powell and David Phillips, two excellen= t, > forward thinking lap and pedal steel players from SF that will be posted = on > Line, with a possible print review as well. > Thanks > Bill > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 21 02:20:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0675618349C; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 02:20:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=h3USSD1D3LF41TIRerQxvQhF01lVKQGi2qgTAaYyeJA=; b=hCh5OMFOFOPoIDofn4wnm2An792MYX2APvdzhqRDc0ktsMFz3O+uuMZdpD31Pe2oP9 QG7xZdPPCf2JtlWpBxtOvWzdJPfKLILtRL1nVi+Vc/1Zj7fWGF2cwSVsfeTD0rhp7D+I rcu77t12PxshDNlIuVHeKqC4dem7sa0RclPoM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=eSh5fx9Gi/vDv62bw18EQ/ZLJxpFL0iBXjZmZw1ClZH/vOd5rHakgirB8nV7ua9LI1 K1fNxSCviy+Ay8X4phQ+e0i2wc4S81RGXmlfkr6U5OOEzgt5dRHhNVDU+5pNWm/LQU2h 0lWeTobmIojCV5jr8QxieZb8V+1ccJNa75zxw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <133D6B54-BFC1-4B35-8AD0-55EF63B0B93C@baymoon.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 22:19:55 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Moog lap steel To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce0b150b7c7da04a16461e7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109081 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 02:20:18 +0000 (UTC) --000e0ce0b150b7c7da04a16461e7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I concur. But perhaps a few more videos will bring Bill straight to the home page and a gift. One could hope at least. T. On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Art Simon wrote: > Bill, > > What do you mean "high profile?" There isn't a better person to show > what the Moog lap steel can do. Off the top of my head, I can't think > of anyone else who is as interested in experimenting with the lap > steel and electronics. But the real reason is that you make such > beautiful music. Moog couldn't do better than just let you play their > lap steel so that people can listen. > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 6:40 PM, William Walker > wrote: > > Dear Friends I was very moved by the positive support I got from you al= l > > surrounding this opportunity I had with Moog, Though I would love to > own > > one and it would be great to get one for free, the reality is they are = a > > company that is simply not big enough to give stuff away, and if they d= o > > have some budget for that, I would assume it generally goes to much mor= e > > high profile guys than I. There might be the possibility of some kind = of > > discount artist's price but regardless I appreciate the sentiment., and > the > > encouragement I've gotten both off list and on. They are sending one ou= t > to > > me with the idea that I will lead a round table review of it for Guita= r > > Player magazine with Robert Powell and David Phillips, two excellent, > > forward thinking lap and pedal steel players from SF that will be poste= d > on > > Line, with a possible print review as well. > > Thanks > > Bill > > > > > > > > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 Outerborough, my debut double CD set is now available on iTunes, and street date is set for March 29th. You can check out the INNOVA Recordings Artist Page here: http://innova.mu/artist1.asp?skuID=3D449 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --000e0ce0b150b7c7da04a16461e7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I concur. =A0But perhaps a few more videos will bring Bill straight to the = home page and a gift. =A0One could hope at least.=A0

T.<= /div>


On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:13 = PM, Art Simon <sim= art@gmail.com> wrote:
Bill,

What do you mean "high profile?" There isn't a better person = to show
what the Moog lap steel can do. Off the top of my head, I can't think of anyone else who is as interested in experimenting with the lap
steel and electronics. But the real reason is that you make such
beautiful music. Moog couldn't do better than just let you play their lap steel so that people can listen.

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 6:40 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:
> Dear Friends I was very moved by the positive support I got from you a= ll
> =A0surrounding this opportunity I had with Moog, =A0Though I would lov= e to own
> one and it would be great to get one for free, the reality is they are= a
> company that is simply not big enough to give stuff away, and if they = do
> have some budget for that, I would assume it generally goes to much mo= re
> high profile guys than I. =A0There might be the possibility of some ki= nd of
> discount artist's price but regardless I appreciate the sentiment.= , and the
> encouragement I've gotten both off list and on. They are sending o= ne out to
> me with the idea that I will lead a round table review of it =A0for Gu= itar
> Player magazine =A0with =A0Robert Powell and David Phillips, two excel= lent,
> forward thinking lap and pedal steel players from SF that will be post= ed on
> Line, with a possible print review as well.
> Thanks
> Bill
>
>



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--000e0ce0b150b7c7da04a16461e7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 21 05:27:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9789918349D; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 05:27:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: Subject: Tram19 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 07:27:31 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acv/5M99cw/g9Z60Qfi1l2F+O5r4Mg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18417 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109082 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 05:27:34 +0000 (UTC) filmed from a Munich streetcar, starring some recent minimalist livelooping improv as soundtrack http://www.vimeo.com/22672622 enjoy! -Michael Peters From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 21 05:57:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F30118349C; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 05:57:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tp92Azl/FA89UwM/o2H7Emch7bc44ZeVlyAbRmYfKWM=; b=Grm4vzfZPigEbTVlBkqCs/ewcgFCIO9qo/3sjAVJZievaxUvv1O98iPDIYbQ8YPPsf twX/MQzuqXwwJ93pc6Bur6i42hlCsfYtip2MQxfsM9e5V3IoSndetojbSe5aOyWuxjou XTJ87WWHjEXha3TAPkyV8tC0zHXnP0yDY/Hgs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=O8JngaREOu6qUEFZDwlhkSYTV/fjeLH6qw8KimtgFAJ8TVesSlXsGbv7ISop/8sz19 w75ATW5sFcUDEz6JHyQXD+oYz8+pW+Axg5FTqyB6ixgwgiPytPdBCGFMkaYnwK37Shuk W19ewt1AaBIfVGLXvgeLA+n7S6A9aQqBZoVeA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 07:57:54 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Tram19 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109083 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 05:57:55 +0000 (UTC) Great! Fascinating how both the music and the video avoids a focus! Very ni= ce! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 7:27 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > filmed from a Munich streetcar, starring some recent minimalist liveloopi= ng > improv as soundtrack > > http://www.vimeo.com/22672622 =C2=A0enjoy! > > -Michael Peters > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 21 07:33:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C3AD818349D; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 07:33:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 582 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 07:33:49 UTC X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A0B020B.4DAFDB95.022F,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-libjamoibt: 1419 Message-ID: <29051778.2235261303370645907.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 09:24:05 +0200 (CEST) From: "luigimeloni74@libero.it" Reply-To: "luigimeloni74@libero.it" To: Subject: R: OT: Upright Bass Pickup? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SenderIP: 151.49.224.230 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109084 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 07:33:50 +0000 (UTC) Hi Rick, in my work as a sound engineer I've tried various pickup/microphone configurations for the strings, and for the double-bass I've found a good solution in the Schaller double-bass pickup and in the Fishman (the Fishman has to be installed well, since it tends to distort on the Sforzato sequences and on the Staccato ones). Another solution could be the AKG C411L, which I've used both on violin, viola, cello and double bass and sounds good... Otherwise he could opt for an electric double-bass, like the Steinberger (it makes a way more affordable line for violin and double basses), but then he would lose a lot of the acoustic double-bass sound. >----Messaggio originale---- >Da: looppool@cruzio.com >Data: 20/04/2011 19.44 >A: "Rob Hyodo", "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" >Ogg: OT: Upright Bass Pickup? > >Hi Loopers, > >Does anyone have a quick answer for this question from a student of mine? >Any advice will be greatly appreciated. I don't have the faintest clue, >though I wish I owned >an upright so I could know the answer. I do own a crappy Guitarron >but I don't think that >counts, lol. > >thanks, Rick Walker > >> >> Been meaning to ask you if you know of any relatively affordable >> upright bass pickups I can put on my bass. I guess I'd want something >> that can get that "snappy" fingerboard-slap sound. :) If you know of >> any or can point me to some resources on that, that'd be great! >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 21 12:37:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD04018349D; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 12:37:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1303389451-0378c32eab34fe80001-hGRpYp X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: HDean@wcupa.edu X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 144.26.0.93 X-ASG-Whitelist: Client From: "Dean, Hal" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: RE: Tuning ethnic instrument Thread-Topic: Tuning ethnic instrument X-ASG-Orig-Subj: RE: Tuning ethnic instrument Thread-Index: AQHL/5JXCWZGLIDJvEm/4wISgN8tjJRoQnCA Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 12:37:30 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.28.73.115] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_F3758BD5E05F2049BBC449788EC936AF03DC26WCUXCH07PASSHELCL_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Barracuda-Connect: wcu-xch-09.wcupa.edu[144.26.0.93] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1303389451 X-Barracuda-Encrypted: AES128-SHA X-Barracuda-URL: http://SPAMCONTROL.WCUPA.EDU:80/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at WCUPA.EDU Resent-Message-ID: <-3UTBD.A.eZD.MUCsNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109085 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 12:37:33 +0000 (UTC) --_000_F3758BD5E05F2049BBC449788EC936AF03DC26WCUXCH07PASSHELCL_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On an oud violin bow rosin works well too to increase the grab of peg in ho= le. Hal From: Jim Goodin [mailto:jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 3:34 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Tuning ethnic instrument Mark have experienced similar on my oud. I use Peg Dope which is a liquid that freezes = up the pegs a bit to keep from slipping. I think the slight variation betw= een pairs can be something about the pegs. In my case it's a cheap instrum= ent and I suppose the more cash the better QC. Also in my case it's nylon = strings and that's another variable of instability during settling in time.= What does the saz have for strings? Jim On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 3:28 PM, mark francombe > wrote: Directed mainly at Rick, but anyone else wanna chip in.. Ive been tuning my Saz (Baglama,) its been a while and I cant remember the tuning. Its a 23 fret Baglama, and as such my book says G D A.. however I cant pull the strings to that tension... either the strings will break, the tuning pegs or my fingers...!!! I have an alternative tuning hear, that is supposed to be for a 19 fret Saz, A G D. Now heres my question... one string tunes fine to any pitch, smoothly and easilly, Now is that just cos that string is lighter... or is it because the peg hole is somehow smoother.. is there a trick with.. Oh.. I dont know... rubbing oil / wax / Linseed oil / Semen?? On the peg? Any tricks from the teepee? -- Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe -- >From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & = Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterth= orn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --_000_F3758BD5E05F2049BBC449788EC936AF03DC26WCUXCH07PASSHELCL_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On an oud violin bow rosi= n works well too to increase the grab of peg in hole.

 <= /p>

Hal

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From: Jim Good= in [mailto:jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 3:34 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Tuning ethnic instrument

 

Mark have experienced= similar on my oud.  I use Peg Dope which is a liquid that freezes up the pegs a bit to keep from slipping.  I think= the slight variation between pairs can be something about the pegs.  = In my case it's a cheap instrument and I suppose the more cash the better Q= C.  Also in my case it's nylon strings and that's another variable of instability during settling in time.  What= does the saz have for strings?

Jim

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 3:28 PM, mark francombe <= mark@markfrancombe.com> wr= ote:

Directed mainly at Ri= ck, but anyone else wanna chip in..

Ive been tuning my Saz (Baglama,) its been a while and I cant remember
the tuning. Its a 23 fret Baglama, and as such my book says G D A..
however I cant pull the strings to that tension... either the strings
will break, the tuning pegs or my fingers...!!! I have an alternative
tuning hear, that is supposed to be for a 19 fret Saz,  A G D.

Now heres my question... one string tunes fine to any pitch, smoothly
and easilly, Now is that just cos that string is lighter... or is it
because the peg hole is somehow smoother.. is there a trick with..
Oh.. I dont know... rubbing oil / wax / Linseed oil / Semen?? On the
peg?

Any tricks from the teepee?

--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancomb= e.com
www.ordoabkhao.com<= /a>
http://vimeo.com/= user825094
http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe




--
From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Go= odin & Peter Th=F6rn.  Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.  jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woodand= wiremusic.wordpress.com

--_000_F3758BD5E05F2049BBC449788EC936AF03DC26WCUXCH07PASSHELCL_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 21 12:43:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4BC401834A5; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 12:43:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from :subject:date:to; bh=WCSD83e4DYkrudHhdrjX8GeVkcstPIXvgtv/T6pIKk8=; b=mPk8s5lG6StJcQnx8K7ZN2q+8xI5+KWcT9IcB+TDeraj3kiwimllnXkARDt939T5HG PO+JhG90nrBG33OVxPknK9Z4unecnDld3L+50l7dPfbwE21MeZiMCmF5nWaYIlN1AD6B 03XJbltuMZiAA3SSSjlK7OOx1gUzLMNke3fCA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; b=xNG6ASCDcPXExLl9N77Vpt+QGfT/JwjFftffQbDWHAs5ngdKiEcYcEkexBoNmpmhV1 qZPm+kOdP3RJd2hhxng23aycqk3FXxtpLUkzsnDET5dohliNCWdGLBN/YZ/H6/bAZc4l 6ORLVIklOZZvTBcrWc6Aq/nDgMGGeacfTuuko= References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 8C148) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Cc: "" X-Mailer: iPod Mail (8C148) From: Jimgoodinmusic Subject: Re: Tram19 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 08:43:03 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109086 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 12:43:40 +0000 (UTC) Michael really nice piece. Love the imagery and chance to experience german= y albeit distorted creatively so could be any metropolis I know. Echoing pe= r re absence of focus in sound and video yet that becomes the focus, the blu= r between. Love where the drums kick in and later the guitar swells near en= d. Thanks for sharing. Jim On Apr 21, 2011, at 1:27 AM, "Michael Peters" wrote: > filmed from a Munich streetcar, starring some recent minimalist liveloopin= g > improv as soundtrack >=20 > http://www.vimeo.com/22672622 enjoy! >=20 > -Michael Peters >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 21 14:27:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B225F1834A1; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 14:27:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=LG388EjIwmnRE/vJMJE0apjUdCKzeapOUwUcQ6XFns4= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=CNxbVC3+Q4TMjpjfeHDQxw==:17 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=bvY1imo9TDk2WsQnPIEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=CNxbVC3+Q4TMjpjfeHDQxw==:117 Message-Id: <0547E128-3996-4BDC-BFFD-F4746593A571@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Tram19 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 07:27:29 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109087 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 14:27:46 +0000 (UTC) Michael, this is really very lovely. It's a great soundtrack, not only for your film but for my morning cup of coffee too. The film is quite something too . . . so elegant and simple. Well done. Ted On Apr 20, 2011, at 10:27 PM, Michael Peters wrote: > filmed from a Munich streetcar, starring some recent minimalist > livelooping > improv as soundtrack > > http://www.vimeo.com/22672622 enjoy! > > -Michael Peters From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 21 14:41:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B92B1834A7; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 14:41:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-04-21_02:2011-04-21,2011-04-21,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1104210072 Subject: Re: Tram19 From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 07:41:03 -0700 Message-id: <1BFB39A7-D4CE-4DE9-BD19-CE62F1154BFF@mac.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109088 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 14:41:06 +0000 (UTC) Beautiful! This music made my morning! Thank you. d On Apr 20, 2011, at 10:27 PM, Michael Peters wrote: > filmed from a Munich streetcar, starring some recent minimalist livelooping > improv as soundtrack > > http://www.vimeo.com/22672622 enjoy! > > -Michael Peters > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 21 14:53:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC7401834AF; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 14:53:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 301 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 14:53:17 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_bac44064-95d7-4001-8978-99ed8245514a_" X-Originating-IP: [151.198.85.18] From: David Grego To: , Subject: RE: OT: Upright Bass Pickup? Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 14:48:15 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4DAF1B7E.4070500@cruzio.com> References: ,<4DAF1B7E.4070500@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Apr 2011 14:48:16.0255 (UTC) FILETIME=[25B060F0:01CC0033] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109089 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 14:53:17 +0000 (UTC) --_bac44064-95d7-4001-8978-99ed8245514a_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've used the REALIST pickup of years. Recorded "Blues Clues" with it in co= mbination with a mic (for room ambience) and the Broadway musical "Chicago"= for 12 years using this pickup. Switching between Pizzicato and Acro has l= ittle change in amplitude completely w/o EQ. It sounds the most natural in = clarity of any pickup I've tried (I've tried too many over the years to men= tion) and at any anticipated/expected instrument dynamic. I also use it on = my Mondobass and Cello Banjo (tuned to a bass) with excellent results. ~Da= vid =20 > Date: Wed=2C 20 Apr 2011 10:44:30 -0700 > From: looppool@cruzio.com > To: robhyodo@gmail.com=3B Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: OT: Upright Bass Pickup? >=20 > Hi Loopers=2C >=20 > Does anyone have a quick answer for this question from a student of mine? > Any advice will be greatly appreciated. I don't have the faintest clue=2C= =20 > though I wish I owned > an upright so I could know the answer. I do own a crappy Guitarron=20 > but I don't think that > counts=2C lol. >=20 > thanks=2C Rick Walker >=20 > > > > Been meaning to ask you if you know of any relatively affordable=20 > > upright bass pickups I can put on my bass. I guess I'd want something=20 > > that can get that "snappy" fingerboard-slap sound. :) If you know of=20 > > any or can point me to some resources on that=2C that'd be great! > > > > >=20 = --_bac44064-95d7-4001-8978-99ed8245514a_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've =3Bused the REALIST pickup of years. Recorded "Blues Clues" with i= t in combination with a mic (for room ambience) and the Broadway musical "C= hicago" for 12 years using this pickup. Switching between Pizzicato and Acr= o has little change in amplitude completely w/o EQ. It sounds the most natu= ral in clarity of any pickup I've tried (I've tried too many over the years= to mention) and at any anticipated/expected instrument dynamic. I also use= it on my =3BMondobass and Cello Banjo (tuned to a bass) with excellent= results. =3B ~David

 =3B
>=3B Date: Wed=2C 20 Apr 2011 10:44:30 -0700
>=3B From: looppool@cru= zio.com
>=3B To: robhyodo@gmail.com=3B Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight= .com
>=3B Subject: OT: Upright Bass Pickup?
>=3B
>=3B Hi Lo= opers=2C
>=3B
>=3B Does anyone have a quick answer for this ques= tion from a student of mine?
>=3B Any advice will be greatly appreciat= ed. I don't have the faintest clue=2C
>=3B though I wish I owned
&= gt=3B an upright so I could know the answer. I do own a crappy Guitarron >=3B but I don't think that
>=3B counts=2C lol.
>=3B
>= =3B thanks=2C Rick Walker
>=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Been= meaning to ask you if you know of any relatively affordable
>=3B >= =3B upright bass pickups I can put on my bass. I guess I'd want something <= BR>>=3B >=3B that can get that "snappy" fingerboard-slap sound. :) If y= ou know of
>=3B >=3B any or can point me to some resources on that= =2C that'd be great!
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
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= = --_bac44064-95d7-4001-8978-99ed8245514a_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 21 15:15:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E321F1834B1; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:15:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=KCccYw72VY/yM/gBaTOyO4XoxX9AQB0pMpOytxNJVKw=; b=Iixok9DdkNzFhwnWO9XC8TWs+o0+nhth7qw/Sa+WKHBBIoWD1AlPvZjp0djjk9qMGT EXnlm5za3Wm+NWhsDLE1PSILOZrl9pFbsu240yct2v9e0mGPDj5SXbR2MdjexuO8qfzq cBwxF6K0UuvxmYUqKOI4P3lw9i2ciWMBQh9v8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=lRuKd70XVKWI4Nt073jM/Pv+MzNU5/Cxowwt/UEGa5RqPUB4tmvD1e4wqnlcNt2ncG v/AQeO0ZoJvruzrHGwATbIv7f7L+qxUCVlVdW87FMbqfXICTXyX9JHl4qqhfy8ZS9arj Adg9SsoshH45r1lIn70svEHwKu8ZR1vrGTwCI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4DAF1B7E.4070500@cruzio.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 11:14:51 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Upright Bass Pickup? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce0b1501a3e7204a16f3563 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109090 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:15:12 +0000 (UTC) --000e0ce0b1501a3e7204a16f3563 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 You did Blues Clues? wow. honored to have you on the list, David. I LOVED that show, and I'm not even a parent. (and we were on Broadway together for years, have we met?) and I'm a fan of the realist as well, both for bass and for cello. (not for violin though) best, T. On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:48 AM, David Grego wrote: > I've used the REALIST pickup of years. Recorded "Blues Clues" with it in > combination with a mic (for room ambience) and the Broadway musical > "Chicago" for 12 years using this pickup. Switching between Pizzicato and > Acro has little change in amplitude completely w/o EQ. It sounds the most > natural in clarity of any pickup I've tried (I've tried too many over the > years to mention) and at any anticipated/expected instrument dynamic. I also > use it on my Mondobass and Cello Banjo (tuned to a bass) with excellent > results. ~David > > --000e0ce0b1501a3e7204a16f3563 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You did Blues Clues? =A0wow. =A0honored to have you on the list, David. =A0= I LOVED that show, and I'm not even a parent. =A0(and we were on Broadw= ay together for years, have we met?)

and I'm a fan o= f the realist as well, =A0both for bass and for cello. =A0(not for violin t= hough)

best, =A0T.


On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:48 AM, David Grego <tubaczar98@hotmail.com> = wrote:
I've=A0used the REALIST pickup of years. Recorded "Blues Clues&quo= t; with it in combination with a mic (for room ambience) and the Broadway m= usical "Chicago" for 12 years using this pickup. Switching betwee= n Pizzicato and Acro has little change in amplitude completely w/o EQ. It s= ounds the most natural in clarity of any pickup I've tried (I've tr= ied too many over the years to mention) and at any anticipated/expected ins= trument dynamic. I also use it on my=A0Mondobass and Cello Banjo (tuned to = a bass) with excellent results.=A0 ~David


--000e0ce0b1501a3e7204a16f3563-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 21 15:27:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B7FAA1834B7; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:27:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_5318f5f6-6362-4af0-99c8-384c8fe633c8_" X-Originating-IP: [86.146.108.229] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: Tram19 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:27:34 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Apr 2011 15:27:35.0010 (UTC) FILETIME=[A39DD420:01CC0038] Resent-Message-ID: <7Hu3ZB.A.KWH.ozEsNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109091 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:27:36 +0000 (UTC) --_5318f5f6-6362-4af0-99c8-384c8fe633c8_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I enjoyed this very much Michael - keep em coming! Peace g Gareth=2C Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > From: jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com > Subject: Re: Tram19 > Date: Thu=2C 21 Apr 2011 08:43:03 -0400 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Michael really nice piece. Love the imagery and chance to experience ger= many albeit distorted creatively so could be any metropolis I know. Echoin= g per re absence of focus in sound and video yet that becomes the focus=2C = the blur between. Love where the drums kick in and later the guitar swells= near end. Thanks for sharing. >=20 > Jim > On Apr 21=2C 2011=2C at 1:27 AM=2C "Michael Peters" wrote= : >=20 > > filmed from a Munich streetcar=2C starring some recent minimalist livel= ooping > > improv as soundtrack > >=20 > > http://www.vimeo.com/22672622 enjoy! > >=20 > > -Michael Peters > >=20 > >=20 >=20 = --_5318f5f6-6362-4af0-99c8-384c8fe633c8_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I enjoyed this very much Michael - keep em coming!

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= --_5318f5f6-6362-4af0-99c8-384c8fe633c8_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 21 15:35:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EFAB11834B5; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:35:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_b310b748-d5ac-4c13-8978-d3c473e82403_" X-Originating-IP: [151.198.85.18] From: David Grego To: Subject: RE: OT: Upright Bass Pickup? Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:35:20 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,<4DAF1B7E.4070500@cruzio.com> , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Apr 2011 15:35:20.0874 (UTC) FILETIME=[B94B08A0:01CC0039] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109092 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:35:21 +0000 (UTC) --_b310b748-d5ac-4c13-8978-d3c473e82403_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well thank you Todd. I also played tuba on the bulk if not all of those B.C= lues shows. While I don't think we met at any Broadway activity=2C I believ= e we both had shared a student Tim from Vernon NJ for a few years. There ma= y also have been a gig or two w/ Walter Thompson we played together some ti= me ago. Did you ever sub for that Mahavishnu Project band? I think I may ha= ve seen you with them. ~David =20 From: toddreyn@gmail.com Date: Thu=2C 21 Apr 2011 11:14:51 -0400 Subject: Re: OT: Upright Bass Pickup? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com You did Blues Clues? wow. honored to have you on the list=2C David. I LO= VED that show=2C and I'm not even a parent. (and we were on Broadway toget= her for years=2C have we met?) and I'm a fan of the realist as well=2C both for bass and for cello. (not= for violin though) best=2C T. On Thu=2C Apr 21=2C 2011 at 10:48 AM=2C David Grego wrote: I've used the REALIST pickup of years. Recorded "Blues Clues" with it in co= mbination with a mic (for room ambience) and the Broadway musical "Chicago"= for 12 years using this pickup. Switching between Pizzicato and Acro has l= ittle change in amplitude completely w/o EQ. It sounds the most natural in = clarity of any pickup I've tried (I've tried too many over the years to men= tion) and at any anticipated/expected instrument dynamic. I also use it on = my Mondobass and Cello Banjo (tuned to a bass) with excellent results. ~Da= vid = --_b310b748-d5ac-4c13-8978-d3c473e82403_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well thank you Todd. =3BI also played tuba on the bulk if not all of th= ose B.Clues shows. =3BWhile I don't =3Bthink we met at any =3BB= roadway activity=2C I =3Bbelieve we both had shared a student Tim from = Vernon NJ for a =3Bfew years. There =3Bmay also have been a gig or = two w/ Walter Thompson we played together some =3Btime ago. Did you eve= r sub for that Mahavishnu Project band? I think I may have seen you with th= em. ~David
 =3B
From: toddreyn@gmail.com
Date: Thu=2C 21 Apr 2011 11:14:51 -0400
Subj= ect: Re: OT: Upright Bass Pickup?
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.co= m

You did Blues Clues?  =3Bwow.  =3Bhonored to have you on t= he list=2C David.  =3BI LOVED that show=2C and I'm not even a parent. &= nbsp=3B(and we were on Broadway together for years=2C have we met?)

and I'm a fan of the realist as well=2C  =3Bboth for bass and for = cello.  =3B(not for violin though)

best=2C  =3BT.


On Thu=2C Apr 21=2C 2011 at 10:48 AM=2C David G= rego <=3Btubacz= ar98@hotmail.com>=3B wrote:
I've =3Bused the REALIST pickup of years. Recorded "Blues Clues" w= ith it in combination with a mic (for room ambience) and the Broadway music= al "Chicago" for 12 years using this pickup. Switching between Pizzicato an= d Acro has little change in amplitude completely w/o EQ. It sounds the most= natural in clarity of any pickup I've tried (I've tried too many over the = years to mention) and at any anticipated/expected instrument dynamic. I als= o use it on my =3BMondobass and Cello Banjo (tuned to a bass) with exce= llent results. =3B ~David


= = --_b310b748-d5ac-4c13-8978-d3c473e82403_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 21 15:41:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41CD81834BB; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:41:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=QQRJlJtwDdAuHD9rOIYOMhkukPE1GWyePyG9TWFLRgM=; b=T4/FdgIHUAIKhPwehBoLXsmCqKtU3AGxSpCRSJuAUMaQnzjweSBsnWpPzInpwlWxlR 3Jg4ljNzI65MNptIxSDSahqW0GqKcwMYSTvQ8C1DgvJQozlUqJhmbgyvU03THoc70C/u yCrIejE8QFgZDJhbHqnPKND4VPCQR64wfsDn0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=IPpceIEkoiSzHE96UqHEFaY/ylz73ZbpnOGSL4ZrRkpIXQKGiys7MZY6CCZL15y2i2 MNMlhJFwJDkLK3pzG1b4kEBpuEH5U99XCAd3KNLcwQOm/bpbINgrsC57EJ2eFiosdJiL tdR9UXUeda+fuvUkrMZ9fR7ivRBZ+fiwO62oc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4DAF1B7E.4070500@cruzio.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 11:41:29 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Upright Bass Pickup? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174735da5b5fbb04a16f9429 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109093 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:41:55 +0000 (UTC) --0015174735da5b5fbb04a16f9429 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable aha! that's it. I was the original Mahavishnu Project violinist, started it with Greg and Kermit and Steve Hunt, Pete McCann. And Tim, yes... rock on, nice to meet you officially. T. On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 11:35 AM, David Grego wrote= : > Well thank you Todd. I also played tuba on the bulk if not all of those > B.Clues shows. While I don't think we met at any Broadway activity, > I believe we both had shared a student Tim from Vernon NJ for a few years= . > There may also have been a gig or two w/ Walter Thompson we played togeth= er > some time ago. Did you ever sub for that Mahavishnu Project band? I think= I > may have seen you with them. ~David > > ------------------------------ > From: toddreyn@gmail.com > Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 11:14:51 -0400 > Subject: Re: OT: Upright Bass Pickup? > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > You did Blues Clues? wow. honored to have you on the list, David. I > LOVED that show, and I'm not even a parent. (and we were on Broadway > together for years, have we met?) > > and I'm a fan of the realist as well, both for bass and for cello. (not > for violin though) > > best, T. > > > On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:48 AM, David Grego wro= te: > > I've used the REALIST pickup of years. Recorded "Blues Clues" with it in > combination with a mic (for room ambience) and the Broadway musical > "Chicago" for 12 years using this pickup. Switching between Pizzicato and > Acro has little change in amplitude completely w/o EQ. It sounds the most > natural in clarity of any pickup I've tried (I've tried too many over the > years to mention) and at any anticipated/expected instrument dynamic. I a= lso > use it on my Mondobass and Cello Banjo (tuned to a bass) with excellent > results. ~David > > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 Outerborough, my debut double CD set is now available on iTunes, and street date is set for March 29th. You can check out the INNOVA Recordings Artist Page here: http://innova.mu/artist1.asp?skuID=3D449 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --0015174735da5b5fbb04a16f9429 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable aha! =A0that's it. =A0

I was the original Mahavishnu= Project violinist, =A0started it with Greg and Kermit and Steve Hunt, Pete= McCann. And Tim, yes...=A0

rock on, nice to meet = you officially.=A0

T.

On Thu, Apr 21, 20= 11 at 11:35 AM, David Grego <tubaczar98@hotmail.com> wrote:
Well thank you Todd.=A0I also played tuba on the bulk if not all of those B= .Clues shows.=A0While I don't=A0think we met at any=A0Broadway activity= , I=A0believe we both had shared a student Tim from Vernon NJ for a=A0few y= ears. There=A0may also have been a gig or two w/ Walter Thompson we played = together some=A0time ago. Did you ever sub for that Mahavishnu Project band= ? I think I may have seen you with them. ~David
=A0
From: toddreyn@gmai= l.com
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 11:14:51 -0400
Subject: Re: OT: Upri= ght Bass Pickup?
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com


You did Blues Clues? =A0wow. =A0honore= d to have you on the list, David. =A0I LOVED that show, and I'm not eve= n a parent. =A0(and we were on Broadway together for years, have we met?)

and I'm a fan of the realist as well, =A0both for bass and for cel= lo. =A0(not for violin though)

best, =A0T.


On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:48 AM, David Grego <tubaczar98@hotmai= l.com> wrote:
I've=A0used the REALIST pickup of years. Recorded "Blues Clue= s" with it in combination with a mic (for room ambience) and the Broad= way musical "Chicago" for 12 years using this pickup. Switching b= etween Pizzicato and Acro has little change in amplitude completely w/o EQ.= It sounds the most natural in clarity of any pickup I've tried (I'= ve tried too many over the years to mention) and at any anticipated/expecte= d instrument dynamic. I also use it on my=A0Mondobass and Cello Banjo (tune= d to a bass) with excellent results.=A0 ~David





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--0015174735da5b5fbb04a16f9429-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 21 15:58:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A398D18349D; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:58:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <557AC624-D050-4607-B00C-4EA934856319@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: RE: Tram19 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 08:58:33 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <68O1_C.A.gZ.xQFsNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109094 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:58:41 +0000 (UTC) Aaah Michael , very lovely I too am drinking my morning coffee with this as a soundtrack. just beuatiful Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 21 15:59:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F7BF18349D; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:59:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=shUNmLXFrylGA0kRPB0U5DnBiSnhMIsSuDPTfekxPhA=; b=Et4EDZ+uu6iNAVWas8iaVmuTYpc291C50ySoNvgYTjsYgKR4bsW7llIkFfLa+mPQqt nHc2D1XW/OetXciIRr8W+1WZgf/f/5DCo5go+cnWHUuRDh9PrqDpBWvxrpUjf3D72x2D Jbgo82J0Ry6ZP3n7fUFfJAuGGsTuMBNPdxizE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=KyIAWZ5O5kPV8bKnRp3+UYTe9PNAK7rvUlgVp7SWVoItTOcW/5a+Qwez2x0nsiI4ij HVbd4MO/dXJsDZW7QgGG1v2dj16nPGP7MswuoIyuLs5ettoeu+K2HizdQuB66IGzrRlF sgGGLdeW92nPlV+scwR3YH5Oa7THcc59FSgvE= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5-824347572 Subject: Re: OT: Upright Bass Pickup? Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 11:59:38 -0400 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: ,<4DAF1B7E.4070500@cruzio.com> , Message-Id: <945355E1-45F7-466D-9F9D-AD3008A1F45B@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109095 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:59:41 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5-824347572 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I tried to like the realist and it sounded great playing through an amp. = I realized I enjoyed that sound because I was hearing the sound of = acoustic bass in the room mixed with the amp...but for looping it was a = different story. If I listened to the sound of the Realist through my = headphones monitoring my loops it sounded awful. Just hearing the sound = of the realist pickup without the acoustic sound of the instrument in = the room was pretty bad. Since I only send the pickup through the looper = (mic goes FOH) that's not the tone I wanted repeated over and over :) I = guess every bass will be different too so maybe it wasn't the right fit = for my instrument. I forgot to mention all my comments are bowed = related. Sounded great to me monitoring with in-ears if I was just doing = pizz=20 -Todd Matthews > On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:48 AM, David Grego = wrote: > I've used the REALIST pickup of years. Recorded "Blues Clues" with it = in combination with a mic (for room ambience) and the Broadway musical = "Chicago" for 12 years using this pickup. Switching between Pizzicato = and Acro has little change in amplitude completely w/o EQ. It sounds the = most natural in clarity of any pickup I've tried (I've tried too many = over the years to mention) and at any anticipated/expected instrument = dynamic. I also use it on my Mondobass and Cello Banjo (tuned to a bass) = with excellent results. ~David >=20 --Apple-Mail-5-824347572 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I tried to like the realist and it sounded great = playing through an amp. I realized I enjoyed that sound because I was = hearing the sound of acoustic bass in the room mixed with the amp...but = for looping it was a different story. If I listened to the sound of the = Realist through my headphones monitoring my loops it sounded awful. Just = hearing the sound of the realist pickup without the acoustic sound of = the instrument in the room was pretty bad. Since I only send the pickup = through the looper (mic goes FOH) that's not the tone I wanted repeated = over and over :) I guess every bass will be different too so maybe it = wasn't the right fit for my instrument. I forgot to mention all my = comments are bowed related. Sounded great to me monitoring with in-ears = if I was just doing pizz 

-Todd = Matthews

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:48 AM, = David Grego <tubaczar98@hotmail.com> wrote:
I've used the REALIST = pickup of years. Recorded "Blues Clues" with it in combination with a = mic (for room ambience) and the Broadway musical "Chicago" for 12 years = using this pickup. Switching between Pizzicato and Acro has little = change in amplitude completely w/o EQ. It sounds the most natural in = clarity of any pickup I've tried (I've tried too many over the years to = mention) and at any anticipated/expected instrument dynamic. I also use = it on my Mondobass and Cello Banjo (tuned to a bass) with excellent = results.  = ~David






= --Apple-Mail-5-824347572-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 21 16:09:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 952AD1834A8; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:09:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_14b82287-0d31-4293-8de8-00f4a8c6ef36_" X-Originating-IP: [151.198.85.18] From: David Grego To: Subject: RE: OT: Upright Bass Pickup? Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:09:42 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <945355E1-45F7-466D-9F9D-AD3008A1F45B@gmail.com> References: ,<4DAF1B7E.4070500@cruzio.com> , ,<945355E1-45F7-466D-9F9D-AD3008A1F45B@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Apr 2011 16:09:43.0439 (UTC) FILETIME=[86AD79F0:01CC003E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109096 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:09:44 +0000 (UTC) --_14b82287-0d31-4293-8de8-00f4a8c6ef36_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Todd: I know what you are referring to. I find using less input gain remedi= ed the issue. ~David =20 From: gtmatthews@gmail.com Subject: Re: OT: Upright Bass Pickup? Date: Thu=2C 21 Apr 2011 11:59:38 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com I tried to like the realist and it sounded great playing through an amp. I = realized I enjoyed that sound because I was hearing the sound of acoustic b= ass in the room mixed with the amp...but for looping it was a different sto= ry. If I listened to the sound of the Realist through my headphones monitor= ing my loops it sounded awful. Just hearing the sound of the realist pickup= without the acoustic sound of the instrument in the room was pretty bad. S= ince I only send the pickup through the looper (mic goes FOH) that's not th= e tone I wanted repeated over and over :) I guess every bass will be differ= ent too so maybe it wasn't the right fit for my instrument. I forgot to men= tion all my comments are bowed related. Sounded great to me monitoring with= in-ears if I was just doing pizz=20 -Todd Matthews On Thu=2C Apr 21=2C 2011 at 10:48 AM=2C David Grego wrote: I've used the REALIST pickup of years. Recorded "Blues Clues" with it in co= mbination with a mic (for room ambience) and the Broadway musical "Chicago"= for 12 years using this pickup. Switching between Pizzicato and Acro has l= ittle change in amplitude completely w/o EQ. It sounds the most natural in = clarity of any pickup I've tried (I've tried too many over the years to men= tion) and at any anticipated/expected instrument dynamic. I also use it on = my Mondobass and Cello Banjo (tuned to a bass) with excellent results. ~Da= vid = --_14b82287-0d31-4293-8de8-00f4a8c6ef36_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Todd: I know what you are referring to. I find using less input gain remedi= ed the issue. ~David
 =3B
From: gtmatthews@gmail.com
Subject: Re: OT: Upright Bass Pickup?
Date= : Thu=2C 21 Apr 2011 11:59:38 -0400
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.= com

I tried to like the r= ealist and it sounded great playing through an amp. I realized I enjoyed th= at sound because I was hearing the sound of acoustic bass in the room mixed= with the amp...but for looping it was a different story. If I listened to = the sound of the Realist through my headphones monitoring my loops it sound= ed awful. Just hearing the sound of the realist pickup without the acoustic= sound of the instrument in the room was pretty bad. Since I only send the = pickup through the looper (mic goes FOH) that's not the tone I wanted repea= ted over and over :) I guess every bass will be different too so maybe it w= asn't the right fit for my instrument. I forgot to mention all my comments = are bowed related. Sounded great to me monitoring with in-ears if I was jus= t doing pizz =3B

-Todd Matthews

On Thu=2C Apr 21=2C 2011 at 10:48 AM=2C David G= rego =3B&= lt=3Btubaczar98@hotmail.com&g= t=3B =3Bwrote:
I've =3Bused the REALIST pickup of years. Recorded "Blues Clues" w= ith it in combination with a mic (for room ambience) and the Broadway music= al "Chicago" for 12 years using this pickup. Switching between Pizzicato an= d Acro has little change in amplitude completely w/o EQ. It sounds the most= natural in clarity of any pickup I've tried (I've tried too many over the = years to mention) and at any anticipated/expected instrument dynamic. I als= o use it on my =3BMondobass and Cello Banjo (tuned to a bass) with exce= llent results. =3B ~David

<= /SPAN>





= = --_14b82287-0d31-4293-8de8-00f4a8c6ef36_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 21 16:09:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 608A11834B3; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:09:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT: Moog lap steel Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 09:09:41 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109097 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:09:48 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for the vote of confidence Art, it means alot, and believe me if there is a angle to work I will we workin' it, I'm currently looking in to a work exchange of some kind :-) One way or another I think its an instrument I really want to own and i didn't feel that way about the regularmoog guitar, but now I'm intrigued to go back an try the standard instrument as I have yet to see anyone really work out on it with a slide and the idea is really intriguing. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 21 16:13:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66BEB1834BC; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:13:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <303976C2-37D1-41B8-AE9A-224654A0D9FF@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: OT Todd Reynolds new platter Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 09:13:12 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109098 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:13:18 +0000 (UTC) Todd thanks for your new CD, its a great piece of work, very inspiring! Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 21 16:14:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 530091834C7; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:14:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_51L7UroSV2alpBjfRCueeA)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-04-21_04:2011-04-21,2011-04-21,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1104210085 From: Daniel Thomas Subject: Re: OT: Upright Bass Pickup? Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 09:14:22 -0700 In-reply-to: <945355E1-45F7-466D-9F9D-AD3008A1F45B@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4DAF1B7E.4070500@cruzio.com> <945355E1-45F7-466D-9F9D-AD3008A1F45B@gmail.com> Message-id: <86F92645-5A3F-4A13-8B7D-3D9CC7A99FE0@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109099 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:14:39 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_51L7UroSV2alpBjfRCueeA) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > I realized I enjoyed that sound because I was hearing the sound of acoustic bass in the room mixed with the amp...but for looping it was a different story. I am not a Standup bassist. But, being a recordist for a long time now, I do have a lot of experience with nearly every pick up system. I share this observation. In general, pick up systems sound better in the presence of amplification. A great deal of the warmth is due to amplification resonating the sound board upon which the pick up is placed. Send this same signal to a looper and the result is pretty darn disappointing-- even with high end pick up systems like realist or schertler. I am interested to know if any bassists have explored the DPA clip on stringed instruments mics (4099.) This mic really liberated my acoustic looping-- the returning loop sounds like the input-- which sounds great! IMO, This mic sounds incredibly natural on guitars, fiddle, mandolin, etc.. And, it rejects feedback admirably. Interested to know how it works on a larger bodied instrument... any bassist tried it? Daniel Apr 21, 2011, at 8:59 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: > I tried to like the realist and it sounded great playing through an amp. I realized I enjoyed that sound because I was hearing the sound of acoustic bass in the room mixed with the amp...but for looping it was a different story. If I listened to the sound of the Realist through my headphones monitoring my loops it sounded awful. Just hearing the sound of the realist pickup without the acoustic sound of the instrument in the room was pretty bad. Since I only send the pickup through the looper (mic goes FOH) that's not the tone I wanted repeated over and over :) I guess every bass will be different too so maybe it wasn't the right fit for my instrument. I forgot to mention all my comments are bowed related. Sounded great to me monitoring with in-ears if I was just doing pizz > > -Todd Matthews > >> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:48 AM, David Grego wrote: >> I've used the REALIST pickup of years. Recorded "Blues Clues" with it in combination with a mic (for room ambience) and the Broadway musical "Chicago" for 12 years using this pickup. Switching between Pizzicato and Acro has little change in amplitude completely w/o EQ. It sounds the most natural in clarity of any pickup I've tried (I've tried too many over the years to mention) and at any anticipated/expected instrument dynamic. I also use it on my Mondobass and Cello Banjo (tuned to a bass) with excellent results. ~David >> > > > > > --Boundary_(ID_51L7UroSV2alpBjfRCueeA) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
I tried to like the realist and = it sounded great playing through an amp. I realized I enjoyed that sound = because I was hearing the sound of acoustic bass in the room mixed with = the amp...but for looping it was a different story. If I listened to the = sound of the Realist through my headphones monitoring my loops it = sounded awful. Just hearing the sound of the realist pickup without the = acoustic sound of the instrument in the room was pretty bad. Since I = only send the pickup through the looper (mic goes FOH) that's not the = tone I wanted repeated over and over :) I guess every bass will be = different too so maybe it wasn't the right fit for my instrument. I = forgot to mention all my comments are bowed related. Sounded great to me = monitoring with in-ears if I was just doing = pizz 

-Todd = Matthews

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:48 AM, = David Grego <tubaczar98@hotmail.com> wrote:
I've used the REALIST = pickup of years. Recorded "Blues Clues" with it in combination with a = mic (for room ambience) and the Broadway musical "Chicago" for 12 years = using this pickup. Switching between Pizzicato and Acro has little = change in amplitude completely w/o EQ. It sounds the most natural in = clarity of any pickup I've tried (I've tried too many over the years to = mention) and at any anticipated/expected instrument dynamic. I also use = it on my Mondobass and Cello Banjo (tuned to a bass) with excellent = results.  = ~David







= --Boundary_(ID_51L7UroSV2alpBjfRCueeA)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 21 16:17:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 479A718349C; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:17:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <1C028C7E-D025-4F69-8129-D59680282F79@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: OT: gareths mutant doubleneck guitar Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 09:17:46 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109100 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:17:52 +0000 (UTC) Hey gareth do you still have that cool double neck guitar you kluged together out of a lap steel and a chandler guitar? I'm wondering if you have ny video or audio examples of you playing it, particularly that cool technique of using an ebow and your finger nails to create a frettless sound? I just flashed on your performance in Zurich in 2005 and that cool technique Cheers Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 21 16:25:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 746DD18349C; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:25:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=NZUvfKs4tConQgYoVYSgoBSJtENjSlS5DCT096yfi7Y=; b=DPnqNJFhq7ZfkItuXwOl2W8fS0g/suYLxqh7lijrUaebsVhGu/VewXjzBF/wO+a350 drRaBpKq32/oDSTwXdTpSvB9eiTxvnyeZrMWNc6uoN6SFjDdDatJJC14XAnjRIgNJQEy utnD7WtNVtz2TVK0qX6cwJ47e3apQkh4t0GNc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=QT8iLWAtMTeN5esUcX7MpsCVhE7OIqDjx9aumd6yPJ8aUxIuotOpIBIRYD7rKQOdK2 yriAd1qPrZkpG7RklQkN5lOH/GWBXXK1JNQ4xV79/pHsfAG0X3iZavihT8l3ONhvudUz VGbS3bZ29FbyjkJjA6fJqL6E2CN5Zn2tC/Vug= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <303976C2-37D1-41B8-AE9A-224654A0D9FF@baymoon.com> References: <303976C2-37D1-41B8-AE9A-224654A0D9FF@baymoon.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 12:25:19 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Todd Reynolds new platter To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174735da1abebf04a1703180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109101 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:25:40 +0000 (UTC) --0015174735da1abebf04a1703180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 thanks Bill, so thrilled you're enjoying it! On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:13 PM, William Walker wrote: > Todd thanks for your new CD, its a great piece of work, very inspiring! > Bill > > --0015174735da1abebf04a1703180 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks Bill, so thrilled you're enjoying it!=A0

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:13 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com= > wrote:
Todd thanks for =A0your new CD, =A0its a gr= eat piece of work, =A0 very inspiring!
=A0Bill





--0015174735da1abebf04a1703180-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 21 16:34:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31AD51834A7; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:34:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=mEUyUZd1Qernx31KRHJR6F4q3D9NWvcsfFJY2W3iRQY=; b=sCswcfzTRTcDUA7ZvJmNZvqgWuVOzVBnoLXmVMrPk5zgg0+vsFNIuf8WUgSMCm1P5X HVNgZ6TRtxjw2ycStrqMl+7HzJY6cklGbYohJio4JByAORPumnb6j+IBQx3U/cJtD5Fx PJF4fLb9kDMgcG/LMNve5W8VPqLtVOB+fqWJg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=HDStRTWbYx50IHMWJqkYxCu0VbQ30xCBLo4k0SOcC+X78ex+xHItQlR/1jyMzN4zab yCwEb+sGl707iiaB+TfY0/QCJUsX4C2gnnhrEYhL+93ymyvrSlDgD8CzLA9XDyuQcL/S LkNwT4a4ZbzsvlrtGFBWvR7Ud3CtntTAIEXPo= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-826407304 Subject: Re: OT: Upright Bass Pickup? Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 12:33:57 -0400 In-Reply-To: <86F92645-5A3F-4A13-8B7D-3D9CC7A99FE0@mac.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4DAF1B7E.4070500@cruzio.com> <945355E1-45F7-466D-9F9D-AD3008A1F45B@gmail.com> <86F92645-5A3F-4A13-8B7D-3D9CC7A99FE0@mac.com> Message-Id: <3C60C929-A14B-4BAA-96D9-D2D2F328D6BC@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109102 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:34:00 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-826407304 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yes I'm using the 4099, although it's at DPA for repair right now. I = love it but in my looping setup I only engage that channel when I want = to solo over top off the loops. It help boost the volume of my lead = lines over the layers of loops built up and sounds amazing. I didn't end = up using the new bass mount though. My basses vibrations would cause = extra really low notes to sound from the string afterlength vibrating so = much. I ended up using the violin mount and attached in between the side = of my bass and f hole opening. I'm also using it a good amount on the = album I'm working on right now for the tracks I want less room sound.=20 -Todd Matthews On Apr 21, 2011, at 12:14 PM, Daniel Thomas wrote: >> I realized I enjoyed that sound because I was hearing the sound of = acoustic bass in the room mixed with the amp...but for looping it was a = different story. >=20 > I am not a Standup bassist. But, being a recordist for a long time = now, I do have a lot of experience with nearly every pick up system. I = share this observation. In general, pick up systems sound better in the = presence of amplification. A great deal of the warmth is due to = amplification resonating the sound board upon which the pick up is = placed. Send this same signal to a looper and the result is pretty darn = disappointing-- even with high end pick up systems like realist or = schertler. =20 >=20 > I am interested to know if any bassists have explored the DPA clip on = stringed instruments mics (4099.) This mic really liberated my acoustic = looping-- the returning loop sounds like the input-- which sounds great! = IMO, This mic sounds incredibly natural on guitars, fiddle, mandolin, = etc.. And, it rejects feedback admirably. Interested to know how it = works on a larger bodied instrument... any bassist tried it? >=20 > Daniel =20 >=20 >=20 > Apr 21, 2011, at 8:59 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: >=20 >> I tried to like the realist and it sounded great playing through an = amp. I realized I enjoyed that sound because I was hearing the sound of = acoustic bass in the room mixed with the amp...but for looping it was a = different story. If I listened to the sound of the Realist through my = headphones monitoring my loops it sounded awful. Just hearing the sound = of the realist pickup without the acoustic sound of the instrument in = the room was pretty bad. Since I only send the pickup through the looper = (mic goes FOH) that's not the tone I wanted repeated over and over :) I = guess every bass will be different too so maybe it wasn't the right fit = for my instrument. I forgot to mention all my comments are bowed = related. Sounded great to me monitoring with in-ears if I was just doing = pizz=20 >>=20 >> -Todd Matthews >>=20 >>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:48 AM, David Grego = wrote: >>> I've used the REALIST pickup of years. Recorded "Blues Clues" with = it in combination with a mic (for room ambience) and the Broadway = musical "Chicago" for 12 years using this pickup. Switching between = Pizzicato and Acro has little change in amplitude completely w/o EQ. It = sounds the most natural in clarity of any pickup I've tried (I've tried = too many over the years to mention) and at any anticipated/expected = instrument dynamic. I also use it on my Mondobass and Cello Banjo (tuned = to a bass) with excellent results. ~David >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 Todd Matthews http://www.joshuasteelemusic.com --Apple-Mail-2-826407304 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Yes = I'm using the 4099, although it's at DPA for repair right now. I love it = but in my looping setup I only engage that channel when I want to solo = over top off the loops. It help boost the volume of my lead lines over = the layers of loops built up and sounds amazing. I didn't end up using = the new bass mount though. My basses vibrations would cause extra really = low notes to sound from the string afterlength vibrating so much. I = ended up using the violin mount and attached in between the side of my = bass and f hole opening. I'm also using it a good amount on the album = I'm working on right now for the tracks I want less room = sound. 


-Todd = Matthews
On Apr 21, 2011, at 12:14 PM, Daniel Thomas = wrote:

 I realized I = enjoyed that sound because I was hearing the sound of acoustic bass in = the room mixed with the amp...but for looping it was a different = story.

I am not a Standup bassist. = But, being a recordist for a long time now,  I do have a lot of = experience with nearly every pick up system.  I share this = observation.  In general, pick up systems sound better in the = presence of amplification.  A great deal of the warmth is due to = amplification resonating the sound board upon which the pick up is = placed.  Send this same signal to a looper and the result is pretty = darn disappointing-- even with high end pick up systems like realist or = schertler.  

I am interested to know if = any bassists have explored the DPA clip on stringed instruments mics = (4099.)  This mic really liberated my acoustic looping-- the = returning loop sounds like the input-- which sounds great!  IMO, = This mic sounds incredibly natural  on  guitars, fiddle, = mandolin, etc.. And, it rejects feedback admirably.   =  Interested to know how it works on a larger bodied instrument... = any bassist tried it?

Daniel   =  


 Apr 21, 2011, at = 8:59 AM, Todd Matthews wrote:

I tried to like the realist and = it sounded great playing through an amp. I realized I enjoyed that sound = because I was hearing the sound of acoustic bass in the room mixed with = the amp...but for looping it was a different story. If I listened to the = sound of the Realist through my headphones monitoring my loops it = sounded awful. Just hearing the sound of the realist pickup without the = acoustic sound of the instrument in the room was pretty bad. Since I = only send the pickup through the looper (mic goes FOH) that's not the = tone I wanted repeated over and over :) I guess every bass will be = different too so maybe it wasn't the right fit for my instrument. I = forgot to mention all my comments are bowed related. Sounded great to me = monitoring with in-ears if I was just doing = pizz 

-Todd = Matthews

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:48 AM, = David Grego <tubaczar98@hotmail.com> wrote:
I've used the REALIST = pickup of years. Recorded "Blues Clues" with it in combination with a = mic (for room ambience) and the Broadway musical "Chicago" for 12 years = using this pickup. Switching between Pizzicato and Acro has little = change in amplitude completely w/o EQ. It sounds the most natural in = clarity of any pickup I've tried (I've tried too many over the years to = mention) and at any anticipated/expected instrument dynamic. I also use = it on my Mondobass and Cello Banjo (tuned to a bass) with excellent = results.  = ~David





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= --Apple-Mail-2-826407304-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 21 20:53:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECEC4183453; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 20:53:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DB09950.90107@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:53:36 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7pDP6.A.8lG.VlJsNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109103 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 20:53:41 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on Ombient. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 22 06:32:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80C4718349C; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 06:32:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_9f751152-e016-465b-a743-7d508ebb46d0_" X-Originating-IP: [86.146.108.229] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: OT: gareths mutant doubleneck guitar Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 06:32:30 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <1C028C7E-D025-4F69-8129-D59680282F79@baymoon.com> References: <1C028C7E-D025-4F69-8129-D59680282F79@baymoon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Apr 2011 06:32:30.0707 (UTC) FILETIME=[0E5FB430:01CC00B7] Resent-Message-ID: <8AoPn.A.7M._DSsNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109104 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 06:32:32 +0000 (UTC) --_9f751152-e016-465b-a743-7d508ebb46d0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Bill=2C=20 Kluged together? Don't you mean expertly hand crafted =3B-) I play the 2 guitars separately nowadays just picking each one up when need= ed=2C (both plugged into the M13). I'm afraid I don't have any footage of me playing in that style - or any ot= her style for that matter but I=20 will take a leaf out of your book and set a camera up in my shed=2C I mean = studio complex=2C to record some soon.=20 I always enjoy your efforts. I will be at full stretch finishing my master's degree and launching Monoli= th till June at least. Then things=20 ease off enough for me to get my act together. I'm playing on Saturday night with a chill DJ and it may well be filmed. Ma= ybe something from that will be worth=20 posting up... Peace G Gareth=2C Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > From: billwalker@baymoon.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: OT: gareths mutant doubleneck guitar > Date: Thu=2C 21 Apr 2011 09:17:46 -0700 >=20 > Hey gareth do you still have that cool double neck guitar you kluged =20 > together out of a lap steel and a chandler guitar? I'm wondering if =20 > you have ny video or audio examples of you playing it=2C particularly =20 > that cool technique of using an ebow and your finger nails to create a =20 > frettless sound? I just flashed on your performance in Zurich in 2005 =20 > and that cool technique > Cheers > Bill >=20 = --_9f751152-e016-465b-a743-7d508ebb46d0_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Bill=2C
Kluged together? Don't you mean expertly hand crafted =3B-)<= br>I play the 2 guitars separately nowadays just picking each one up when n= eeded=2C (both plugged into the M13).
I'm afraid I don't have any footag= e of me playing in that style - or any other style for that matter but I will take a leaf out of your book and set a camera up in my shed=2C I mea= n studio complex=2C to record some soon.
I always enjoy your efforts.I will be at full stretch finishing my master's degree and launching Mono= lith till June at least. Then things
ease off enough for me to get my a= ct together.
I'm playing on Saturday night with a chill DJ and it may we= ll be filmed. Maybe something from that will be worth
posting up...
=
Peace

G


Gareth=2C Sentientfx - =3B Innovative mus= ic plugins. http://sen= tientfx.com/



>=3B From: billwalker@baymoon.com
>= =3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B Subject: OT: gareths = mutant doubleneck guitar
>=3B Date: Thu=2C 21 Apr 2011 09:17:46 -0700<= br>>=3B
>=3B Hey gareth do you still have that cool double neck gui= tar you kluged
>=3B together out of a lap steel and a chandler guit= ar? I'm wondering if
>=3B you have ny video or audio examples of you= playing it=2C particularly
>=3B that cool technique of using an ebo= w and your finger nails to create a
>=3B frettless sound? I just fla= shed on your performance in Zurich in 2005
>=3B and that cool techni= que
>=3B Cheers
>=3B Bill
>=3B
= --_9f751152-e016-465b-a743-7d508ebb46d0_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 22 09:58:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D4EC18349D; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 09:58:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_6a85b30e-e7b8-4342-815b-69650d6257d3_" X-Originating-IP: [90.229.132.96] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: Tram19 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 09:58:57 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Apr 2011 09:58:58.0257 (UTC) FILETIME=[E5EDD410:01CC00D3] Resent-Message-ID: <6wNwFB.A.ZFD.iFVsNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109105 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 09:58:58 +0000 (UTC) --_6a85b30e-e7b8-4342-815b-69650d6257d3_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Great!! Thanks for sharing! > From: mp@mpeters.de > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Tram19 > Date: Thu=2C 21 Apr 2011 07:27:31 +0200 >=20 > filmed from a Munich streetcar=2C starring some recent minimalist liveloo= ping > improv as soundtrack >=20 > http://www.vimeo.com/22672622 enjoy! >=20 > -Michael Peters >=20 >=20 = --_6a85b30e-e7b8-4342-815b-69650d6257d3_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Great!!

Thanks for sharing!

>=3B From: mp@mpeters.de
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.c= om
>=3B Subject: Tram19
>=3B Date: Thu=2C 21 Apr 2011 07:27:31 +0= 200
>=3B
>=3B filmed from a Munich streetcar=2C starring some re= cent minimalist livelooping
>=3B improv as soundtrack
>=3B
&g= t=3B http://www.vimeo.com/22672622 enjoy!
>=3B
>=3B -Michael Pe= ters
>=3B
>=3B
= --_6a85b30e-e7b8-4342-815b-69650d6257d3_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 22 11:07:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDE1218349D; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 11:07:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HP6e+Et3aSzMjTauu30w5y3jvCtzROBozMzhG2/A4Ts=; b=sBjZpsBY4EgNBHO9JuGLTL/AOvzNbZfmTkC3Jkfm8h+jP9TxXDwh9A1XMS3QzGwap+ Pxz0bCqqKTrrk9FUHrXelB0CzU8f8peMYHE9h6MQVTZ9ij8MCPuzFCcksB9P//Avn9gw N8vihr1Ir0iuZTXd1bZ2FUxM0l5s8c1fOpBC0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=u1KltVAsBp/fTYtdcu5Sl6fFXI97H5SKMAmSCOuFwQImbbp6pab2pmstFadmtxli4b QVUpN4WOV9l6TEX8p6nB0N2QisQw2SIDy9nelUmY/n60YvgIKb1i0+lX8m31Eh/aiRAc op3boqFl35tfA01RRUbK2gBLjqOTHxmFKK8xc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 13:07:52 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Upright Bass Pickup? bass amp modeler preamp? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <86TlKC.A.7PE.KGWsNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109106 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 11:07:54 +0000 (UTC) by the way folks,im also looking for a really good stomp tight spanky preamp bass amp modeler to use with bass for going direct into the mixer,i cant always take my bass amp when traveling, any suggestions? as far as guitar goes the ETHOS OVERDRIVE is the best ive heard going directly into the board,imho beats all of those amp sims from muti effectors! thanx Luis On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Todd Matthews wrote= : > Yes I'm using the 4099, although it's at DPA for repair right now. I love= it > but in my looping setup I only engage that channel when I want to solo ov= er > top off the loops. It help boost the volume of my lead lines over the lay= ers > of loops built up and sounds amazing. I didn't end up using the new bass > mount though. My basses vibrations would cause extra really low notes to > sound from the string afterlength vibrating so much. I ended up using the > violin mount and attached in between the side of my bass and f hole openi= ng. > I'm also using it a good amount on the album I'm working on right now for > the tracks I want less room sound. > > -Todd Matthews > On Apr 21, 2011, at 12:14 PM, Daniel Thomas wrote: > > =A0I realized I enjoyed that sound because I was hearing the sound of aco= ustic > bass in the room mixed with the amp...but for looping it was a different > story. > > I am not a Standup bassist. But, being a recordist for a long time now, = =A0I > do have a lot of experience with nearly every pick up system. =A0I share = this > observation. =A0In general, pick up systems sound better in the presence = of > amplification. =A0A great deal of the warmth is due to amplification > resonating the sound board upon which the pick up is placed. =A0Send this= same > signal to a looper and the result is pretty darn disappointing-- even wit= h > high end pick up systems like realist or schertler. > I am interested to know if any bassists have explored the DPA clip on > stringed instruments mics (4099.) =A0This mic really liberated my acousti= c > looping-- the returning loop sounds like the input-- which sounds great! > =A0IMO, This mic sounds incredibly natural =A0on =A0guitars, fiddle, mand= olin, > etc.. And, it rejects feedback admirably. =A0 =A0Interested to know how i= t works > on a larger bodied instrument... any bassist tried it? > Daniel > > =A0Apr 21, 2011, at 8:59 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: > > I tried to like the realist and it sounded great playing through an amp. = I > realized I enjoyed that sound because I was hearing the sound of acoustic > bass in the room mixed with the amp...but for looping it was a different > story. If I listened to the sound of the Realist through my headphones > monitoring my loops it sounded awful. Just hearing the sound of the reali= st > pickup without the acoustic sound of the instrument in the room was prett= y > bad. Since I only send the pickup through the looper (mic goes FOH) that'= s > not the tone I wanted repeated over and over :) I guess every bass will b= e > different too so maybe it wasn't the right fit for my instrument. I forgo= t > to mention all my comments are bowed related. Sounded great to me monitor= ing > with in-ears if I was just doing pizz > -Todd Matthews > > On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:48 AM, David > Grego=A0=A0wrote: > > I've=A0used the REALIST pickup of years. Recorded "Blues Clues" with it i= n > combination with a mic (for room ambience) and the Broadway musical > "Chicago" for 12 years using this pickup. Switching between Pizzicato and > Acro has little change in amplitude completely w/o EQ. It sounds the most > natural in clarity of any pickup I've tried (I've tried too many over the > years to mention) and at any anticipated/expected instrument dynamic. I a= lso > use it on my=A0Mondobass and Cello Banjo (tuned to a bass) with excellent > results.=A0 ~David > > > > > > > > > Todd Matthews > http://www.joshuasteelemusic.com > > > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 22 11:22:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 467AD18349D; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 11:22:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dAbzvJamb0BHM024J1SoicWcWsBzsrPTlbh/zWk0w9Y=; b=UaWcK7ryPGOZ+ms5x5r1Ji4vapl224HEVhHmZJpMpxKgFyuo6c/Jbr7Znj3STFwOsL SwxiZ2ixq6D2iv+GqR9jK/ZMwj5kQOeFwBf1d4tKlcdOWT8YSMGE36Ysp6VUNSyYM4pa NfNFfcVEx6PuQc6EEAgeL5Lkme0FiegrIxrGY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rUgt3O8so9seP41ZBH/Cu37WE9vJuSvTsKRyi8pp41Rz8XIxSP2IrZQa79hqwZzyDK gLb2LThXe2Sj8EFD2FOOCXOEB8iIhwOYerFKXH5sfX80Z76fPWQLLto/0MduBKj0lxV7 4n5JF40tjF70WD73M50k4dP0EgvkNPnJ5q0oM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 13:22:52 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Upright Bass Pickup? bass amp modeler preamp? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109107 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 11:22:53 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > by the way folks,im also looking for a really good stomp tight spanky > preamp bass amp modeler to use with bass for going direct into the > mixer, Every time I've seen that question posted somewhere many people have recommended Sansamp: http://www.tech21nyc.com/products/sansamp/bassdriverdi.html Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 22 11:55:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE06A18349D; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 11:55:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=IvmDN08TqTmhHyPSzuyR7bENjZpp7CEaORcu+bIpJX4=; b=e4yF/d2pCwVIurJpuqm0VdjLrcL+VAEjRblEfaFmDH/qjBmM7LEGWMd/JQ79UYYRY8 09JEV52+KmVnBm2n8ulRiOh5QsrFgaldt0dCneszKLGbnV9/4oLgyUqLFu/m2W5tVISR lJ4wuyM6pwtGEbGjcH4Y3P6zCpErYSUCzZ9gs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Vb415vuNsF5cPbjGUbs5Taf3IIhqgO0LTxuR0zaYf47DtBh2fqbOsY+9lwxqDq+pPo 3MLdw39vulHHeV/mjeFEh8sLoUsXMJL1kTOSN/VAb3BnJPHVkTN/60c4nyI04R7rsChT PhLnbKmgHm6W9SL1ZrEednOgDnXZmlJFg6ftQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 13:55:34 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Upright Bass Pickup? bass amp modeler preamp? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109108 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 11:55:35 +0000 (UTC) you are the man Per thanx! Luis On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> by the way folks,im also looking for a really good stomp tight spanky >> preamp bass amp modeler to use with bass for going direct into the >> mixer, > > > Every time I've seen that question posted somewhere many people have > recommended Sansamp: > http://www.tech21nyc.com/products/sansamp/bassdriverdi.html > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 22 13:45:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6FE118349C; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 13:45:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DB18661.50801@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 09:45:05 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #733 for April 21, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109109 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 13:45:12 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/110421.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #733 April 21, 2011. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Ombient. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Rites of Passage" which is a self-released title. Ombient: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#apr PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) vidnaObmana VI Chasing the Odyssee (Tone Float) Klaus Schulze and Liquid oincidence 7 Farscape (Synthetic Symphony) Lisa Gerrard Max Corbacho Carboniferous Dawn Deep Time (ad321) Vic Hennegan Patagonian Rain Field of Worlds and Mirrors (Alien Tribes Music) Mark Mhoney Choppd Logic Beyond the Vaulting S ky (Waiing Worlds) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Ombient Rainforest Rites of Passage (none) Ombient The Initiation Rites of Passage (none) Ritual Ombient The Passage Through Rites of Passage (none) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long focus on Ombient. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Oceans Edge" which is a self-released title. Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 22 14:29:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FC0F18349D; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:29:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <895ACA52-8AC5-4E8C-B5B0-3FDA8F308DFB@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: OT: gareths mutant doubleneck guitar Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 07:29:37 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109110 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:29:44 +0000 (UTC) Duuuude make a movie!!!, but seriously I really liked that thing you did and your expertly customized guitar, do you rememebr who the lap steel portion was made by? Good luck on the masters and the launch and perhaps the next time you come to california, I'll set you up in my posh film studio and take movies myself. By that time I might even have a 2 camera shoot, a gaffer and a foley artist, perhaps Rick might provide the foley? Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 22 14:34:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6EAC618349E; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:34:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DB1921F.7010702@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 16:35:11 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Upright Bass Pickup? bass amp modeler preamp? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7liNUD.A.1G.vHZsNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109111 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:34:23 +0000 (UTC) The A/DA MB-1 programmable bass preamp is a pretty nifty piece of gear. Two tube channels, clean and clean/dist, each with several voicings, dual parametric EQ, chorus, compressor, two send/return loops, both full range out and splitstack outs.. Can take some time to locate one these days, though. /m Louie Angulo wrote: > by the way folks,im also looking for a really good stomp tight spanky > preamp bass amp modeler to use with bass for going direct into the > mixer,i cant always take my bass amp when traveling, any suggestions? > as far as guitar goes the ETHOS OVERDRIVE is the best ive heard going > directly into the board,imho beats all of those amp sims from muti > effectors! > thanx > Luis > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > >>Yes I'm using the 4099, although it's at DPA for repair right now. I love it >>but in my looping setup I only engage that channel when I want to solo over >>top off the loops. It help boost the volume of my lead lines over the layers >>of loops built up and sounds amazing. I didn't end up using the new bass >>mount though. My basses vibrations would cause extra really low notes to >>sound from the string afterlength vibrating so much. I ended up using the >>violin mount and attached in between the side of my bass and f hole opening. >>I'm also using it a good amount on the album I'm working on right now for >>the tracks I want less room sound. >> >>-Todd Matthews >>On Apr 21, 2011, at 12:14 PM, Daniel Thomas wrote: >> >> I realized I enjoyed that sound because I was hearing the sound of acoustic >>bass in the room mixed with the amp...but for looping it was a different >>story. >> >>I am not a Standup bassist. But, being a recordist for a long time now, I >>do have a lot of experience with nearly every pick up system. I share this >>observation. In general, pick up systems sound better in the presence of >>amplification. A great deal of the warmth is due to amplification >>resonating the sound board upon which the pick up is placed. Send this same >>signal to a looper and the result is pretty darn disappointing-- even with >>high end pick up systems like realist or schertler. >>I am interested to know if any bassists have explored the DPA clip on >>stringed instruments mics (4099.) This mic really liberated my acoustic >>looping-- the returning loop sounds like the input-- which sounds great! >> IMO, This mic sounds incredibly natural on guitars, fiddle, mandolin, >>etc.. And, it rejects feedback admirably. Interested to know how it works >>on a larger bodied instrument... any bassist tried it? >>Daniel >> >> Apr 21, 2011, at 8:59 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: >> >>I tried to like the realist and it sounded great playing through an amp. I >>realized I enjoyed that sound because I was hearing the sound of acoustic >>bass in the room mixed with the amp...but for looping it was a different >>story. If I listened to the sound of the Realist through my headphones >>monitoring my loops it sounded awful. Just hearing the sound of the realist >>pickup without the acoustic sound of the instrument in the room was pretty >>bad. Since I only send the pickup through the looper (mic goes FOH) that's >>not the tone I wanted repeated over and over :) I guess every bass will be >>different too so maybe it wasn't the right fit for my instrument. I forgot >>to mention all my comments are bowed related. Sounded great to me monitoring >>with in-ears if I was just doing pizz >>-Todd Matthews >> >>On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:48 AM, David >>Grego wrote: >> >>I've used the REALIST pickup of years. Recorded "Blues Clues" with it in >>combination with a mic (for room ambience) and the Broadway musical >>"Chicago" for 12 years using this pickup. Switching between Pizzicato and >>Acro has little change in amplitude completely w/o EQ. It sounds the most >>natural in clarity of any pickup I've tried (I've tried too many over the >>years to mention) and at any anticipated/expected instrument dynamic. I also >>use it on my Mondobass and Cello Banjo (tuned to a bass) with excellent >>results. ~David >> >> >> >>Todd Matthews >>http://www.joshuasteelemusic.com -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 22 16:10:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE84E183453; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 16:10:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=helpwantedproductions.com; h= message-id:date:subject:from:to:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=helpwantedproductions.com; b=YfCfxTCFFwsE43wkweh3L3tLZvRkJWJ7VSImoPPyNNaxxdSdy9riJJKiyksWw QpDvXg1ojja6AHGkOHHSAEe5ytwcMyAfhqmsCIu0k0Yb/5uVEMIm5TOqrIaX2AYM Pvi6IQsGpxNWD5FAsVyh9wBChuV21/HS7e3pCBhbs7QLn8= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=helpwantedproductions.com; h=message-id:date:subject:from:to:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding; s=helpwantedproductions.com; bh=11V44 fp8Z6z1czwmPjJcAxu+kyE=; b=TOee5EVH3SDx8+ZOlrCZGvOgAecSBOCt2Ag6e vboqZ0vDIBcbZOmnGjjlZh737HgeG6NptrQAoK5izHMIkPVUXDHL8ePkbVJGfwsl DyiXDqZuN/F3Tc5gYZBYXPPa0UBnEXIFWWih8v0VYAEswJzjrsZE/7Q7pF0MrhO4 YFAKGM= Message-ID: <3120c1e9df2eb121de8c4546525efa94.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 09:10:52 -0700 Subject: Live Ambient Music Concert Phila Pa - Sat 4/23 From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: "Loopers Delight" , "AH" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109112 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 16:10:53 +0000 (UTC) There will be a live electronic music concert going on in downtown Phila = Pa Tomorrow evening. This looks to be a great time with a fabulous lineup including two vintage Phila Electronic Music performers (Charles Cohen an= d David Talento) with some fresh talent and sounds. Time: Saturday, April 23 =B7 8:00pm - 11:30pm Location: Random Tea Room 713 N. 4th st. Philadelphia, PA (btwn brown and fairmount) FREE. Please keep in mind the RTR is *small*. Best to get there early if you'd like a spot. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- electronic, vintage, experimental noise show: Color is Luxury - improvisational electronix. vintage bloops, riddim, and tones "We have stuff and it makes sounds we like. We really hope you enjoy it as much as we do. Charles plays the blue box. hair_loss plays some stuff." -color is luxury http://vimeo.com/902069 http://soundcloud.com/hair_loss=3Dhttp://colorisluxury.org/ David Talento Presents: Music For Isolation Tanks - long time local electronic/ambient musician and engineer David Talento brings us the goods. This will be a rare ambient only set of experimental and synth wizardry. http://www.helpwantedproductions.com/mfit.htm http://daedsound.com/ Dave Smolen - http://www.myspace.com/davesmolen D. Elias Tinker - lap steel and live electronics --------------------------------------- NEW DAED SITE!! - Http://DaedSound.com DAED: Circuit Bent and Unusual Sound Devices "Making Something Extrodinary from the Ordinary" Music and More at the Mothership: Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 22 20:55:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 852AF18349D; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 20:55:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 975947.17708.bm@omp1031.mail.ird.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Subject:Date:Message-Id:To:Mime-Version:X-Mailer; b=SIQ/iZGjnO0080pXNaO9VixyWp2yuQBURZB77zQrctMR6zuLV/OlqdaBBAnGKf7+WvxrfmlrPkqItSSsGaY5JSKYqL/0F9LzzQOZQEwwnBtG1LlxBHoIchffW1ZvtnOAR6NKZn/sIRTWPXmeeomAFTvt2Z7mkIdX69sOvYk4xqs= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1303505740; bh=dDy3/oLTXqAE38Z1WyM1JJEOdVlX8y8L8SX665d9o0o=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Subject:Date:Message-Id:To:Mime-Version:X-Mailer; b=ngwgcv8aBfdZFbEU0fn/qvVIqZ/qKQwN73Ng0qSkRgTZgxaYg+UfmIrcYIN0jVMfb+ed6FtyfbEDWPfeKbjfY/PPCYSmy5j9ImdvnlDvBPwXW/s+UQp/Kz4rxuYHMuXLl02cuxSrSic+TGODHZEwp5xn1+QGkyKdgrsX3USPQPg= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: oRDZqIwVM1lMeDcOvrpWzeMps5puSMZRNpi7OkbfHc.FO6j hRndHGG4.T14csn5Kr6YioSJsW6_FVLWkIw6omAkrBJEC1g.TCYhLIPAJdSa 0IhK4381D99EXou3CdL4bAbxbfuokZ_2Ca56PcEpI2.LeNnACIeuTZk7wXk0 ekzSKmpqIyGbCnxZPWJxyq3iKUZPN6NiYxi0KNJ4yOigvjXSI_P1MeYck8IU ltBfpjJfIUlHzHn.FHENaKGElLQxxrCvYi5MGX16YPUCGT9gNctgm_kyLBXc AS0hCzh_CxeT2ESKst6Tz8ciSgwWVm_7tNl2VbJ1jRABPbQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: Matt Stevens Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Looping gig spam Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 21:55:39 +0100 Message-Id: <67CD6851-E59C-4A7F-98C0-EFA057FA3FCF@btinternet.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109113 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 20:55:42 +0000 (UTC) I'm looping tomorrow at he Peel - London with Credo and next Friday in = Rushden with Fish (of Marillion fame) - end message :) Matt Stevens http://www.mattstevensguitar.com http://www.spencerparkmusic.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 22 21:25:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2CDB18349D; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 21:25:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=SE5f6IIT/51ZEDg62H2wCCN5DxO1EJp4N8cVdIhW1vY=; b=g1L/p0GeYjhivvYT2aYhyFmrrdWkPRZREOhiieTcwLm/qdd60UJ3AmKZGyLe8gpU7Q 8vOrQ7upM8+5A/ys6y69cIc4wnDUeMyh83m1eBNrKkViRcjihjOsqAIuze5clhi8gtbV HNHkaj/YO1Gb+fV6Xq3Z7CLs8CPoZGpY9ZKT4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=n3vvhYPhMNrNLG1L93Ft2ChMA+T+MSl01wwGDj9A2wLmLXURyX8a296KwJo4H86xb4 a7DtRDcW1lCiyzMaFCxiTl7jGR2fjOjAHPH2AVXMamnkSgm5xEUyqyLPuQ9A8v8ZmVIr lBbmF0FKchmWysumNgrbAmUHoZgitg/7Vs6DM= Message-ID: <4DB1F22E.9070601@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 23:25:02 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Two new Kaoss things reviews and gripes... References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_3qw4C.A.OK.1IfsNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109114 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 21:25:09 +0000 (UTC) Scott Hansen schrieb: > i don't have the new ones, but had the original kp1 and loved it yrs ago. > and then about a bit over a yr ago i got a used kp2....which i do love. For me (having KP1, KP2, KP3 and Kaossilator), there isn't really a reason to use the KP2 - the KP3 does all it does and more. That is not true however for the KP1, simply because it has some gritty lofi digital early 80s charm which makes it kind of unique in my arsenal. > i will say the only down side,as mark mentioned is that the kp2 has a > 100 presets-it's impossible to remember specific #s. i know it So it's perfect for some aleatoric stuff, isn't it? (for the record, the KP3 has grouped them somewhat logically, e.g. FLT03 for the third filter algorithm, and will display the full name scrolling through the touch pad). Btw, I just was informed by google video that my videos will get deleted soon, and rediscovered this (posted here before): http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=-4135927290013891493# Looping w/ Boss DD20 and Korg KP3. Enjoy, Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 23 01:52:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C69418349D; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 01:52:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DFA51HZ02zTIkymDMGGjMTimZizy/7W/sMehN5VeRm4=; b=wHjqKTiuX+OQ3UlZipZxFAJtUyHwIAdErnJ6+SOd8OTUcupnzfjAIMeF5QSt2ghWdo dedqopsBeA/S305jmHvQlz/xlW73O0ed1T9YoSZFglmb3qm0GuvVgibCkbMp2h8N6Wsx fe/eFEAeEfFMlS1hG2WNH57vv6ueDWz7t80W4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Pse5wRlduIDRKRjOWLNXUb+wYpJIeSf98iAWz9nHsgBGz4cckmYUUpSkWFK964htbC tQ2/hB4Q4DNVj/M3AvF3nKjMqqQNVxw19zr+UE1mcsYSfQFu0UOq0m/rOX6Oz1GarJ09 0amJxj14ZMWDMAeJ8NfC6xxUIcO60FFvqATmk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DB1F22E.9070601@googlemail.com> References: <4DB1F22E.9070601@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 21:52:01 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Two new Kaoss things reviews and gripes... From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747bac677621004a18c38d4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109115 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 01:52:03 +0000 (UTC) --00151747bac677621004a18c38d4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rainer that was a neat demo, it does indeed show how you 'think' through th= e process. Good job and nice mood growing in the tones. Jim On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Scott Hansen schrieb: > > i don't have the new ones, but had the original kp1 and loved it yrs ago= . >> and then about a bit over a yr ago i got a used kp2....which i do love. >> > For me (having KP1, KP2, KP3 and Kaossilator), there isn't really a reaso= n > to use the KP2 - the KP3 does all it does and more. > That is not true however for the KP1, simply because it has some gritty > lofi digital early 80s charm which makes it kind of unique in my arsenal. > > i will say the only down side,as mark mentioned is that the kp2 has a 10= 0 >> presets-it's impossible to remember specific #s. i know it >> > So it's perfect for some aleatoric stuff, isn't it? > (for the record, the KP3 has grouped them somewhat logically, e.g. FLT03 > for the third filter algorithm, and will display the full name scrolling > through the touch pad). > > Btw, I just was informed by google video that my videos will get deleted > soon, and rediscovered this (posted here before): > http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=3D-4135927290013891493# > > Looping w/ Boss DD20 and Korg KP3. > > Enjoy, > > Rainer > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --00151747bac677621004a18c38d4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rainer that was a neat demo, it does indeed show how you 'think' th= rough the process. =A0Good job and nice mood growing in the tones.

=
Jim

On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 5:= 25 PM, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
Scott Hansen schrieb:

i don't have the new ones, but had the original kp1 and loved it yrs ag= o.
and then about a bit over a yr ago i got a used kp2....which i do love.
For me (having KP1, KP2, KP3 and Kaossilator), there isn't really a rea= son to use the KP2 - the KP3 does all it does and more.
That is not true however for the KP1, simply because it has some gritty lof= i digital early 80s charm which makes it kind of unique in my arsenal.

i will say the only down side,as mark mentioned is that the kp2 has a 100 p= resets-it's impossible to remember specific #s. i know it
So it's perfect for some aleatoric stuff, isn't it?
(for the record, the KP3 has grouped them somewhat logically, e.g. FLT03 fo= r the third filter algorithm, and will display the full name scrolling thro= ugh the touch pad).

Btw, I just was informed by google video that my videos will get deleted so= on, and rediscovered this (posted here before):
http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=3D-413592729001389= 1493#

Looping w/ Boss DD20 and Korg KP3.

Enjoy,

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer

--
http://moinlabs.de
Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs




--
From Brooklyn= To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter= Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF Interna= tional.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--00151747bac677621004a18c38d4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 23 08:28:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B09A18349F; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:28:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DB28DA7.2040003@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 04:28:23 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Thought Radio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2z3Q6D.A.xvC.r2osNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109116 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:28:28 +0000 (UTC) THOUGHT RADIO: http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio ======================================================================= My next stint on Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show, will be Saturday, April 23 at 6 am EDT/GMT-4. I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs in Phase One. I will also play some new music from Vic Hennegan, Jeff Koepper, and M. Peck. I host the show every other week. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 23 17:41:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F1FA18349F; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 17:41:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1303580485; bh=ieYGkrMQonNHJc+1Jne5hG47b6hxHTPgWM+rCci9udA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=G58zGDf5D4sj4AEFp6QnEt4hYj9K/SImdbluhBIuptkta8FrRXUjfWfWXiO3xEqx8X9tKUOUopc1NdPG+l6S+DwxZxNWaV4KmiD4Nlu7tooHMo0Mn3s7xpJVDCy4XLQUuuSnlRgGvI+ma14eqWYvZD3C3jtVchfLnmxtvNu2v08= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vCooG2ypO49n9oD7bgdVzvxyhXItXtJTZcVtkHbW0C74XXE1rWDkX0hLpn9wafQvgrzVPnZChs7WW4VZddcFpQL86w/FPoHVjebOXDOQM1VnU9/pDywiCgibEY2jrr+GgO/97au2LAHFb4S9OV5+Lx9wPHfxiVfrckFeSOvWa4c=; Message-ID: <76411.85182.qm@web30405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: HViij4AVM1nUq6TFuIceR9xLL77K.w5FuLVWNKd0SjGWWQV IXa.35xLbib1GQOufA2NRnKIEOBeSDUGuT.EzAiP5Q8FFjfuKyfuYOIYq5P2 LIGgBpqB3zP53b6yrCGy9F11OoSopB3Ia9zXp4fTumaxvsadchiaCTZeXf9S 8ZXyUwHVtOsVSrG90zkuc_fSolbkYIw0ToRyjifisV3nAhalsrfzUtvm2Cye lxCxQAvare9hrbtGGz..QfJezTp7taUFHl950AvYvhkx389tNZuRWKvAXKHf Zbx79q2zCAd3202KSix.d6hMTFRHJqkKHHfq6nHB0FC.TN6HbL1rUis2uaY9 Ew7jZI7YQvUAyLkPj9AcCcTwsH5TWDLAUMA6HSnvJmKB0cOiKHA3lvmjY X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/12.0.2 YahooMailWebService/0.8.110.299900 Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 10:41:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Uccello Subject: RE: OT: Upright Bass Pickup? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1970000110-1303580484=:85182" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109117 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 17:41:27 +0000 (UTC) --0-1970000110-1303580484=:85182 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable the epic struggle for a nice sounding, inexpensive bass p-up that's good fo= r bowing & pizz that's loud, yet won't succomb to feedback or bleed through= continues!! just wanted to throw in my 2 cents-just to get back to Rick's = quez-an affordable decent sounding p-up is the old reliable(though a bit so= ft & dark)'Underwood',also if your student want to slap & is not bowing at = all &wants to be able to hang in loud situatons they may want to check out = some magnetic p-ups-not sure of any brands off hand (the String Charger?) b= ut there's lots of different magnetic ones out there-they do suck for bowin= g(at least that's what I've heard)but I would prob throw my vote to the ful= l circle or realist or even the k&k-but getting back to the epic tone quest= ...just wanted to share w/you bassers on here that I am in the middle of ge= tting an on board system put in one of my uprights (a 1/2 size howard core = w/detachable neck)-Rick Turner & The Bass Doctor(aka Matt Bohn) are doing for me & it's all so I can get a good sound for looping-like you guy= s were saying: when you playing along w/ the p-up a lot of p-ups are nice b= ut the second you hit the looper for play back the lame scratchyness begins= ! (more for bowing that is) it's a Turner custom p-up which is 4 piezo elem= ents embedded in the bridge by each string &a realist-then a Turner blender= circuit/preamp w/tone, vol,lo-cut &blend knobs-may try to include a mic w/= the 2 p-ups too-curious about this 4099 now! seems like at=A0 least 2 sonic= reference points are key-will keep u posted:) --- On Wed, 4/20/11, Jeremy devros wrote: From: Jeremy devros Subject: RE: OT: Upright Bass Pickup? To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011, 12:33 PM =0A=0A=0A=0A =0ARick, =0AI'm studying w/ Glen Moore --I can ask what he uses, but I doubt it's "a= ffordable" =0AI know his NS has two different P/Us; not sure about his Klotz. I'll ask= on Sat. =0AJD =A0 =0A> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 10:44:30 -0700 > From: looppool@cruzio.com > To: robhyodo@gmail.com; Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: OT: Upright Bass Pickup? >=20 > Hi Loopers, >=20 > Does anyone have a quick answer for this question from a student of mine? > Any advice will be greatly appreciated. I don't have the faintest clue,= =20 > though I wish I owned > an upright so I could know the answer. I do own a crappy Guitarron=20 > but I don't think that > counts, lol. >=20 > thanks, Rick Walker >=20 > > > > Been meaning to ask you if you know of any relatively affordable=20 > > upright bass pickups I can put on my bass. I guess I'd want something= =20 > > that can get that "snappy" fingerboard-slap sound. :) If you know of=20 > > any or can point me to some resources on that, that'd be great! > > > > >=20 =09=09 =09 =09=09 =0A --0-1970000110-1303580484=:85182 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
the epic struggl= e for a nice sounding, inexpensive bass p-up that's good for bowing & p= izz that's loud, yet won't succomb to feedback or bleed through continues!!= just wanted to throw in my 2 cents-just to get back to Rick's quez-an affo= rdable decent sounding p-up is the old reliable(though a bit soft & dar= k)'Underwood',also if your student want to slap & is not bowing at all = &wants to be able to hang in loud situatons they may want to check out = some magnetic p-ups-not sure of any brands off hand (the String Charger?) b= ut there's lots of different magnetic ones out there-they do suck for bowin= g(at least that's what I've heard)but I would prob throw my vote to the ful= l circle or realist or even the k&k-but getting back to the epic tone quest...just wanted to share w/you bassers on here that I am in the middle= of getting an on board system put in one of my uprights (a 1/2 size howard= core w/detachable neck)-Rick Turner & The Bass Doctor(aka Matt Bohn) a= re doing for me & it's all so I can get a good sound for looping-like y= ou guys were saying: when you playing along w/ the p-up a lot of p-ups are = nice but the second you hit the looper for play back the lame scratchyness = begins! (more for bowing that is) it's a Turner custom p-up which is 4 piez= o elements embedded in the bridge by each string &a realist-then a Turn= er blender circuit/preamp w/tone, vol,lo-cut &blend knobs-may try to in= clude a mic w/the 2 p-ups too-curious about this 4099 now! seems like at&nb= sp; least 2 sonic reference points are key-will keep u posted:)
<= br>--- On Wed, 4/20/11, Jeremy devros <deafrose58@hotmail.com><= /i> wrote:

From: Jeremy devros &l= t;deafrose58@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: OT: Upright Bass Pickup?
T= o: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011, = 12:33 PM

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I saw Uli Jon Roth using one of these, it seems to work.....

From: Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sat, April 23, 2011 2:25:25 PM
Subject: vibesware

http://www.vibesware.com
has anyone tried them? I'm always interested in gadgets like that but the
examples don't really convince me.

-Michael

--0-1551059619-1303601533=:28121-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 24 00:07:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ADB3818349E; Sun, 24 Apr 2011 00:07:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=aGt8PhXKcUJdp7pGaT5FliXg2vsAMsOrE3fLAY1UHhk=; b=pHjyMoRvzUQ0fTnpK+o5fsnfC/4UllW0mrZWYStc/5MUGNf7k25jzOJGJIFA8HHlSI XhHBajiheP0zmOR27BjfUj7LKqXjz15XbnNZ/uX1hhIXKqlMh+TdEHHNnEs/9dl5bfNf Pdv/nUn6tPXJJsf6cfHdpjBEPwl0F+QpFVdeg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aGq5VGs2rcITS844uJfEr/sjKrYRSA6M/5koApJ1T17Y/RuRhOyOeHofeQS1Xti5MD b80u/rigmss3DdFsQzLaB5o0Epj6+nYhnYezAnhqjerRBXgE6tjPJUL+pAVHImC/eipu xVDlF/ptRppseWXaLM3/3j0TSoZOHDbM1Bj6Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 18:07:16 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: VF-1 for sale From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109125 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 00:07:17 +0000 (UTC) Kevin, Ping me directly off-line ... we may have something to discuss. Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > Hello, > > Due to a bad Ebay purchase, I no longer own a functional VG8 and very > much want another one, so I am offering my Boss VF-1 for sale should > anyone be interested. > http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=3D413 > > Half rack, Red, a processor with a massive amount of potential in a > small space. =A0Up 20 tap delays, guitar synth, vocoder, and a bunch of > other unusual effects as well as the usual. > > Lots of folks on the list half been devoted users, now you can be too :-) > > If anyone is interested, make me an offer. > > Thanks, > > Kevin > > > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble= . > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 24 09:26:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25D2E18349D; Sun, 24 Apr 2011 09:26:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0/RVlawUOrWAImcrS9RrIqqn47MmH1xFn2QOAYApiKE=; b=HDoRL1weU4mfgq3IPnGG+VF45ScKvrmvdetZX82+R2IY3n5tjdxe0Y4n76xcIGw9a7 EyAf7BLLP1HmNryW1keMuRTLeJ04buRaZBquzaTx+hEzcqreSsmP7FprAuX7Usx3sa4A WJuRmt0Gwn1E3GTXEsBB0UDgpfHouqnVgQ37M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=pHSqgKLAh4t9iQMb+8tIHSH4phDHQr5R/PxLD+MKA8lEtxOBLEfT87FN3IgNgKKKk1 fFSSRNmgiXMvMKyJj0Gw4qbAlgcRD6CpmGOOeW7lZ+0ZXbF1qW20YxjJWIYCjBsBjz8/ iLiSqf/bYBwahILQsdfu/8sgyyZGMKM5aLezI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 11:26:09 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Tram19 From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109126 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 09:26:10 +0000 (UTC) very nice Michael! nice editing as well why are we all drinking coffee while watching this? name it coffee tram;-) On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Anders Bergdahl wrote: > Great!! > Thanks for sharing! > >> From: mp@mpeters.de >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: Tram19 >> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 07:27:31 +0200 >> >> filmed from a Munich streetcar, starring some recent minimalist >> livelooping >> improv as soundtrack >> >> http://www.vimeo.com/22672622 enjoy! >> >> -Michael Peters >> >> > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 24 09:43:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB10118349C; Sun, 24 Apr 2011 09:43:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MDPynu1Kc+dySFQGnxrKVQxf2GhAa2+Q1p9XxF3CSnc=; b=i13grxuVZ24N+/gU0AZY5N5CZJBltI4ylQ76BqGdHrG01kk89jQTxpwg9UmwbhxdDW O2aFk1BHutpeM7L+5fj128/dCdMl1m999AZfSAO7iPpHgcCaUP2yqKc2o9GV2D7hPYfg +GtQnFy+JOWHCnccXVh5m9FoKQZX1m2Jouo70= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Jcdyi2cjgHwIYjW11ja2s1dIughmos9S9sWjfRr/QMfW753nZdvNWQdPCrssnADUSw vvJzrHzf8z8yZRfm6UyYgoMnIbybTpFS4x8KaoB3mjKzSlPvwtJVNee+oTaVvsk8uxxk Sah8piMU4iCP+PSNXOOMwn33gKTqyyHNcexkg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4CC60BAD-211C-4319-A4B1-68963E7C20FD@baymoon.com> References: <4CC60BAD-211C-4319-A4B1-68963E7C20FD@baymoon.com> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 11:43:42 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Moog lap steel From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <-qCW2D.A.IYH.PD_sNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109127 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 09:43:43 +0000 (UTC) very nice Bill! i always wisdh there was a lapsteel that could sustain notes for ever,i remember listening the the end of Led Zeppelins "over the hills and far away" and couldnt figure out how they had recorded that.Then in an interview somewhere i read that Jimm Page had done it with a lapsteel but i still find it amazing how he got it to sustain like that for so long,it sound as there is also some sort of organ but im not sure, same thing with some of those Hendrix and Santanas solos,they amost sounded as if they had a sustaier bulit in;-) I guess all they should be the credited with being perhaps the godfathers of sustain;-) Luis On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:29 PM, William Walker w= rote: > When I was in at NAMM in January =A0I was introduced to the A and R guy f= or > Moog who gave me a brief introduction to the new moog lap steel. =A0By > coincidence I was due to be in Asheville NC,where Moog=A0is based,=A0for = a week > =A0 in March with my wife Nancy =A0to care for her 86 year old mother whi= le > Nancy's sister was away, and I was invited to the factory to further chec= k > out the new lap steel and shoot some video of it. I was accompanied by my > new good friend and LD member Andy Owens, and we had a blast , visiting t= he > factory and meeting nearly everyone who worked there:-)and I had about an > hour to check out the the instrument which they edited down in to this > video. It is really another experience altogether the way this instrument > handles the infinite sustain thing, having owned an ebow forever and trie= d > various sustainer devices. This seems capable of the same kind of mayhem, > =A0but also =A0more control and subtlety as well. The most interesting th= ing for > me was being able to sweep from one chord position to another without hav= ing > to generate sustain by creating a physically driven vibrato by shaking th= e > bar, or even striking the strings with my fingers. I might get some grief > from Randy Jackson for being pitchy in places but I went in a sceptic and > left wondering how I could get the money together to buy one. amazing. > =A0Enjoy > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7HSmHE0OIrI > Bill --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 24 12:41:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18FCF18349C; Sun, 24 Apr 2011 12:41:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=siwewCb/5OsyyCDO3vuNvFeZGfcYwIxwT4MaOdMWI8Q=; b=veo+Y+RnvhvDvV/Fv1fhedirVeoYZbHJoh/rYGzkPhk0nfUYq/u7WyZfSl+DcGpdNE Fa8NCBYK80anV0T+QHlZlW0aV94k8/XQF6fDCc9lkqogh8tqkBf1UBhJVxu900wz/fBl 1wEUm5e9GO8JyEHngr8GI4txZmx+o+0oKMmWs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rAABUv7IfoMV1Sufmvn6uvNbzzKmdu4s9uro4o3k5MV0EZfUK/fmgXa+Ad8FWIJ9b4 MdWqWuosm3kgKz00WnaBHpO1nZ70L1ifJC9FRX8eFljugUKPmveKtpcvCd+f3mXFrxkL UI78CpKY/pUCKSz4zhSG0Nvr5DalhExxBLBR8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DAC9EBB.6070001@post.cybercity.dk> References: <4DA8AF29.9060903@post.cybercity.dk> <4DA94A81.6070800@post.cybercity.dk> <4DAC9EBB.6070001@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 14:41:26 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Booting OSX into live profile From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <2cNyI.A.X4C.4pBtNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109128 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 12:41:28 +0000 (UTC) by the way,beware fo the Ableton-Korg scam,if u buy Ableton suite and a nano kontrol which i did you are supposed to get a rebate of 50.00dlls well in the form that you fill out there is a wrong adress and telephone number,i realized this after it came back twice,then i called the phone number on their form as well(Ableton -Korg in california) and some guy answered and was so annoyed and said he was a private number. Then i called Ableton and they said that the promotion was only valid till last year yet they still have it in their website! then they told me they would see what they could do and they would mail me back and never did. i never got that refund. cheers Luis On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 10:27 PM, van Sinn wrot= e: > Yup, it's something like this I'm envisioning. =A0I know about the nano, = cute > device. =A0Either this or an iPad, we'll see.. > > First I'll want to land a Mac Mini or preferably a refurbished 2.53/2.66G= hz > server (which with two disks is the better option for me), get the softwa= re > setup, and take it from there. > > /m > > > Louie Angulo wrote: >> >> you can also add the korg usb nano kontrol,its prety much >> preconfigrued withAbleton,so you can cotrol every channels >> vol,pan,mute etc.also the the RME mixers phone channels seem to be >> already pre assigned to =A0the nanos 1 fader,if u turn the rme midi >> on,thrn you can just link your master outputs and control the overall >> volume. >> A nice and portable solution as well. >> Luis >> >> On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 9:51 AM, van Sinn >> wrote: >> >>> Hehe, yes, it is sometimes a small world with parallel thinking.. >>> >>> Actually, I'm considering using an iPad for controls, which will serve >>> other >>> purposes as well, like a DAW app with 'motorized' faders. >>> Pretty amazing the number of applications that are popping up for this, >>> like >>> DAW controls, live recording and live apps, holders for keyboard, mount= s >>> for >>> drumkits et al.. >>> >>> A Mini it is, off to the bay I go. >>> >>> Thanks to all for replies ;) >>> /van >>> >>> >>> Eric James Dearatanha wrote: >>> >>>> Hey vin, >>>> >>>> I actually have a similar setup in my rack... The Mac mini booting to >>>> live. So fun huh? >>>> If you want to monitor i suggest mimo 7in USB powered monitors to have >>>> on >>>> hand incase you need emergency repatching... They have a touch screen >>>> version that works pretty well... You could definitely manage. But i >>>> keep >>>> one of the Bluetooth trackpads handy as they are much faster to work >>>> with. >>>> Both can easily stow away in back of rack invisibly. >>>> There are awesome elastic advantages to having the Mac mini with >>>> different >>>> vst and au in a program like live or main stage. But for raw CPU >>>> efficiency >>>> Per is right about stand alone units. You can also use iPad/iPhone to >>>> control your midi gear with touch osc and a combination of other thing= s >>>> ( I >>>> use osculator as the osc midi translator, then midi patch bay program = to >>>> route osculator to the hardware ) so many fun possibilities.. >>>> >>>> >>>> Hope this helps... >>>> >>>> Eric mogli >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> On Apr 15, 2011, at 1:48 PM, van Sinn wrot= e: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Being a home musician, and as such not needing/wanting real amps/cabs= , >>>>> and thus using convolution/IR's, I'm thinking why not simply add a Ma= c >>>>> Mini >>>>> plus my Fireface400 to my combined guitar/bass rig, and have it boot >>>>> straight into a a profile setup for live usage. >>>>> >>>>> The reason being that I often just wanna play a Bit, and as such woul= d >>>>> prefer not having to have a montor attached, log in, click to setup..= . >>>>> In other words, I'd want to be able to turn on the rig, and have OSX >>>>> boot >>>>> into a default live profile. >>>>> When wanting to actually do DAW works, I'd log in and terminate the >>>>> live >>>>> profile (preferably have the login mechanism do this). >>>>> >>>>> I'm not familiar with the various live packages, like Ableton Live. >>>>> Anyone done this sort of setup? =A0Then please elaborate.. ;) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> rgds, >>>>> van Sinn > > > -- > rgds, > van Sinn > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 24 13:24:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3038218349C; Sun, 24 Apr 2011 13:24:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: <20110424124129.EA7411834A1@arsenic.violacea.com> Subject: 3D - Doppler effect plugin? Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 15:24:43 +0200 Message-ID: <46B5C8DCD8AF4D3BA1250A38A156800E@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcwCfPXNiHX8nzAkRRys5GZ3zJRIywABPbXA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6090 In-Reply-To: <20110424124129.EA7411834A1@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: <1aaRP.A.fUE.gSCtNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109129 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 13:24:48 +0000 (UTC) does anyone know if there is a 3D Doppler VST effect similar to the effect that belongs to Audiomulch? in AM you can draw a movement path that creates a potentially very complex 3D effect, complete with size, speed, reverb, and adjustable Doppler effect. -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 24 15:25:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4BE9418349D; Sun, 24 Apr 2011 15:25:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=67PPgUc0CtgM8E27DXTM5SVmNQEiZYYnqhTvr1M71DI= c=1 sm=1 a=eAtvVEiBYzcA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=CNxbVC3+Q4TMjpjfeHDQxw==:17 a=Q1FZruEIYL3IXwDqW7AA:9 a=apSx9OAQ6x6w1kiiPCcA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=CNxbVC3+Q4TMjpjfeHDQxw==:117 Message-Id: <62BAFB79-06CC-4ED9-83C5-3E325F5E75BC@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <46B5C8DCD8AF4D3BA1250A38A156800E@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: 3D - Doppler effect plugin? Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 08:25:32 -0700 References: <20110424124129.EA7411834A1@arsenic.violacea.com> <46B5C8DCD8AF4D3BA1250A38A156800E@mpeserver> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109130 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 15:25:33 +0000 (UTC) I wish I did. The old Mac program Hyperprism used to be able to do this - just one of the many, many quirky things it could do. I still keep one old OS9 Mac around and refurbished so I still have access to it. But I too would sure like to know of a modern VST plug-in that I could run in MaxMSP that does this. On Apr 24, 2011, at 6:24 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > does anyone know if there is a 3D Doppler VST effect similar to the > effect > that belongs to Audiomulch? in AM you can draw a movement path that > creates > a potentially very complex 3D effect, complete with size, speed, > reverb, and > adjustable Doppler effect. > > -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 24 15:29:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C961918349D; Sun, 24 Apr 2011 15:29:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 398 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sun, 24 Apr 2011 15:29:33 UTC User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.0.101115 Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 08:22:49 -0700 Subject: Re: OT: Moog lap steel From: Qua Veda To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: OT: Moog lap steel In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MagicMail-UUID: b795f9fa-6e86-11e0-a8da-0015176fabf8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109131 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 15:29:34 +0000 (UTC) Wow, what a great video and performance ! Thanks for sharing it ! -Qua > >On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:29 PM, William Walker >wrote: >> When I was in at NAMM in January I was introduced to the A and R guy >>for >> Moog who gave me a brief introduction to the new moog lap steel. By >> coincidence I was due to be in Asheville NC,where Moog is based, for a >>week >> in March with my wife Nancy to care for her 86 year old mother while >> Nancy's sister was away, and I was invited to the factory to further >>check >> out the new lap steel and shoot some video of it. I was accompanied by >>my >> new good friend and LD member Andy Owens, and we had a blast , visiting >>the >> factory and meeting nearly everyone who worked there:-)and I had about >>an >> hour to check out the the instrument which they edited down in to this >> video. It is really another experience altogether the way this >>instrument >> handles the infinite sustain thing, having owned an ebow forever and >>tried >> various sustainer devices. This seems capable of the same kind of >>mayhem, >> but also more control and subtlety as well. The most interesting >>thing for >> me was being able to sweep from one chord position to another without >>having >> to generate sustain by creating a physically driven vibrato by shaking >>the >> bar, or even striking the strings with my fingers. I might get some >>grief >> from Randy Jackson for being pitchy in places but I went in a sceptic >>and >> left wondering how I could get the money together to buy one. amazing. >> Enjoy >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HSmHE0OIrI >> Bill > > > >-- >www.luis-angulo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 24 21:07:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45A8E18349D; Sun, 24 Apr 2011 21:07:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: vibesware Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 14:07:04 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <4Q-PV.A.mMH.AEJtNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109132 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 21:07:12 +0000 (UTC) Cool! I like the fact that it looks kind of like the weapon that the aliens in the first War of the World's movie used! Seems to work quite well. Not to mention providing your own mini fretboard spot light!!!! I think that anything that can approximate the sound of a wall of amps turned up loud and feeding back with ought actually having to plug in to a wall of amps turned up loud is a good thing, though obviously not as exhilarating in the same way as moving that much air. I'm a big fan of using multiple amps and sources but these days neither the back nor the ears can handle the wall of sound, so i do it in miniature with low wattage combo amps, and I can get those dialed in to where they are singing and sustaining and feeding back and sounding massive, but to have this kind of control with ought the high volume is why devices of this kind keep being revisited, particularly with the current trend being a move to smaller amps. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 24 22:11:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3AE518349D; Sun, 24 Apr 2011 22:11:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=oVs+d6fFtR174VXG+UgQaOdYmNlPq2VpBXwWzmyrTG8=; b=AMfpQIPCLd4YG53juTHoQK27Tqtr/H3PUwzamtzp/PioGuhwuomq/FXftbHcyfAnaz bmKzsqXdqx9CTUOiGn+oXevC+qU2+CxgtZoozICn4+SG6YJhHknJmnsXXYF7ZUyBTctQ YKDBj9VFKLm/mDQlGA34C1+h3EK7hZa74TycI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=DKuTtqtVbn1c+0ngIyYPJA95bItBSJKHwHWj9akgaYbGF2Vo4Mq6c8tx0dAHqU+/6M PgyMWn/GeNxKeMftpcuE48CHzPjVdpxlrEyPwPO/LXCOeCVMo5EbW9neShpThM+fTDY6 uqBYkyWz8HWEjREqiZ83DPDFqnIDfUaJrqs1M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <46B5C8DCD8AF4D3BA1250A38A156800E@mpeserver> References: <20110424124129.EA7411834A1@arsenic.violacea.com> <46B5C8DCD8AF4D3BA1250A38A156800E@mpeserver> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:11:32 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 3D - Doppler effect plugin? From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c44b09cec1204a1b15f22 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109133 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 22:11:34 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c44b09cec1204a1b15f22 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 There's one in one of the Waves FX bundles. Here's a freebie, but I'm not sure if it's 3D. http://www.vstplanet.com/News/2009/ADoppler.htm On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > does anyone know if there is a 3D Doppler VST effect similar to the effect > that belongs to Audiomulch? in AM you can draw a movement path that creates > a potentially very complex 3D effect, complete with size, speed, reverb, > and > adjustable Doppler effect. > > -Michael > > -- -==-=-=- Tony --0015174c44b09cec1204a1b15f22 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--0015174c44b09cec1204a1b15f22-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 24 23:26:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F08F918349D; Sun, 24 Apr 2011 23:26:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 660614.31529.bm@omp1042.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1303687599; bh=HWQBd9o/njv/P2qTIIVQaTPic6YPY9Jgu1cYuY8Qshw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ysA9wCL7yrJQL9Cc8+z4Aa2ksuqFF73WkRonVz8y/++CPZrhWuKKyrH4aZwr2o26YckhGA4VqSGRGMBASv5kfUdrOYkR5ChvjRxUMpPKyEO5oBH8lybUr+/EqYX/6CfiMWGJ67Vu/U9f67LLKWaGt7yyYRugMXJE/Bfl4Oz2Us8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lRO1qB4fSrlBBk+UHi2xw86jZPvWwCdqAGngXEacAOO00KbYFhiHtSVVB/Wi4kvN9oxnPjVSo6jfzhwvd18ri3fTjJfZ/krfX7Nsv3XV1Vv7cqAOFsC2TM6Mtk2+OesoR5Lr+2cwKpGzgoqaUd0WyAY+5x9CfSGDkLyl/oNbYdo=; Message-ID: <160255.51348.qm@web112105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 1Za_LxYVM1k_W0qmBFbCVzPtJqx70_Z9TyR8CU_LFZcaj9C nhpg8zlOtQXbjT5TWYi.iEX5WXI84VXjXF42qIHZG1o0yRzqNYbBJsDunQCS FHEk0E6MVZkMexqWNwplqYOXF7vF0TmPocKjFNFOt7YO.GBDcSDZDCTTOIId fTFVRl5RmbavrF6EE6Bf_r95ue8WidXLKFi3eotJUkA5IvXpEjIqEIVeJ_AH avz3P5odNWQwi9IzIeIniih94Mh5eHlxf9b1E4XT_Y3jUiIQK.z6s14v65h8 58.IbabBRA90ab6.dFadMavuUR.L4skfRxrKd7RcaCZ5nmqFyrf0w7dhDKuJ ihU2IbDrsC.6urfaaGCSTICChsE3uw7k3o1ADPcltijdNVthBMtZB7I5hHRB GPsJzrxHj1_O5EgA10g-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/12.0.2 YahooMailWebService/0.8.110.299900 Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 16:26:38 -0700 (PDT) From: K D Patten Subject: Re: vibesware To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1758602384-1303687598=:51348" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109134 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 23:26:41 +0000 (UTC) --0-1758602384-1303687598=:51348 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable wonder if would work on an electric/acoustic guitar Kyle Dean Patten=20 P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA=A0 50131=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=20 =A0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dobgm3kTi5bs =A0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Da9g93s0q3uc=20 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten=20 http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten=20 =A0http://www.linkedin.com/in/kyledeanpatten=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --0-1758602384-1303687598=:51348 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--0-1758602384-1303687598=:51348-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 24 23:46:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6ADE318349D; Sun, 24 Apr 2011 23:46:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=f6m6BDIdWUzQ9pYg96V0afw9X2doL7wA0E6M5SB0OnE=; b=r0Sb+qeZ/r/NsvD4wGF9URa8qDpwN9CIOL0ufvQErzQzvMpBDIgSNWsWIjc0mjwLsM vvohKtuJTYsmjP8RS/hvGUV/e2MyHhsBf5gFANtBiigyfAY2fDyqomipsgZuXqxnMY+K /GfqDsfdTXZrchN3mwLd9LmYc/mjE8LrFGnDM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=SqFSRmmsPN5qkLStJVcuNl3cjRbxEt4prZ0pxFVdQARi4gxAzwBqKNV98JpOamEWjF UFyEAIEGK0pqAO5aVYW5RX7LPYQWIUcp1Tcqvy6PDmMGFKlls5iy3Q/Xo2nN247JUQ3H vE/S+lQSs8HGDcG8U75bH7dd58RkmFElDpvBg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 16:46:27 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Tiny Owl on internet radio tomorrow night 9pm PDT From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109135 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 23:46:27 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, My band Tiny Owl will be giving an internet radio performance tomorrow night! Monday, Apr 25 2011 9:00 PM On internet radio! http://www.sfsound.org & http://zoka.com/radio Tiny Owl: Suki O'Kane: Percussion Sebastian Krawczuk: Double Bass & Objects Lance Grabmiller: Computer & Synthesizer Matt Davignon: Drum Machine & Synthesizer Performs live on Sf Sound Radio & http://zoka.com/radio Tiny Owl is a quartet that combines non-idiomatic improvised music with non-non-idiomatic music (such as krautrock, psychedelia and ambient music). http://tinyowl.bandcamp.com/ -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 01:15:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12B0318349D; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 01:15:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DB4CB2C.7060206@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:15:24 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: COOL LOOPERLATIVE TRICKS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109136 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 01:15:32 +0000 (UTC) I was rereading a very creative email I got from our own Dust Bunnie's chronicling of some creative uses of Looperlative combined commands (the LP-1 allows for a single midi button to control up to 8 sequential functions) and I thought it would be cool to have everyone write in with their most creative and idiosyncratic setups for the Looperlative. I'll post one of mine to start and below that I'll reprint Duke's creative approaches. Rick Walker _* ERSATZ MELLOTRON effect*_ (in Looperlative LP-1) 1) Scroll to assign Midi/User button, hit enter (display will now read 'hit Midi button') 2) Tap Midi button #1 3) Scroll to any desired Interval (chromatically over one octave) these commands are at the end of the scrolled menu list added, graciously, by Bob Amstadt at my request. 4) Push Track #2 button on faceplate 5) Scroll to RETRIGGER 6) Hit ENTER 7) Hit Midi button #2 and repeat steps 1)-6) for up to an entire Scale of your chosing. On a typical set of Midi pedals there are 10 pedals. I assign Pedal numbers 1-8 diatonically from the low octave up to the original pitch assignment (I always reserve 9 and 10 for previous track and next track, respectively) In this way, I can always visually see what scale number I'm on for improvising melodies. Personally, I always have a bank of Minor Key 'Organ' pedals and a bank or two of exotic scales It is efficacious using this technique to _make a looped sound that is NOT chordal and that has a sharp transient at the start of the loop._ Because the sample lengths change, the transients help to make a kind of 'clicking' sound at the start of each note which sound more 'organesque' (wow, is that a word?) A cool, more experimental approach is to NOT include a RETRIGGER command in each midi pedal. In this way if you have a long but timbrally morphing single note on an instrument the pitch will change but the timbre will always be random as you will be changing the pitch in the middle of the loop. This technique is very hip but is not very useful for typical melodic uses. ************************************************************************* Okee dokee...............Here's DUST BUNNIE's very hip suggestions (thanks for the inspiration, buddy): * 'RED HOUSE' effect * (Looperlative LP-1) For instance, I put together a command that emulates what I call the ‘Red House’ effect (listen to ‘Two Soldiers’ or ‘The Red House’ from David Byrne’s “The Catherine Wheel” to hear what I’m talking about). With this one, the loop buffer starts to fill as long as I have the MIDI pedal depressed. The moment I let up on the pedal, it immediately begins to loop whatever was in the buffer. Depress it again, and the previous buffer is immediately erased and begins filling a second time. This allows me to tap the pedal quickly to capture very short looped snippets — or stutters — of sound. A slightly longer tap means a slightly longer snippet. If I tap several times while playing a line, it almost sounds like realtime granular, as the loop buffer grabs one ‘snapshot’ after another of what I’m playing. *'TIME STRETCH' effect* (Looperlative LP-1 using AUX outs and outboard Pitch Shifter) Another one I put together allows me to do time-stretch, in conjunction with an outboard pitch-shift unit on the Auxiliary outs (oh yeah, multiple outputs: there’s another feature not mentioned above). I’ll begin recording a loop as normal. Then I’ve a command that closes/plays the loop, assigns it to Aux Out 1 (where it’s sent to a pitch shifter set to +1 octave, then routed back into the LP-1), drops to Half-Speed, and starts a Bounce on the next track. This results in the recording of a time-stretched track that is twice the length, but at the same pitch as the original. I can also begin to get Repeater-esque degrade effects, dependent upon the crappiness of the pitch-shifter I’m using. Throw in some other effects (bit-shift or sample-rate degradation, synchronized slicing from the EF-303, etc.) and things can get pretty wild. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 10:42:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E09F218344B; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 10:42:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+FyMWaKgzoU3LtUqCpM2f7TjwTQbTuS9E4MYEx36N78=; b=wVAONLLmNvoUWxSekJ/v8fM12+tvCBuu+u7FZPSjkPo5GYy/+53eDc3IJqU9OHYgaL KnqDjbOv0xxn/JIsxbXlXBjUwJC8YS4hnf8ctD5lA6jv0a8omefX6nS8UEm831FPpsXX NtVeVZYq5JNp9Y/Dio2N1JwX1npsNDONp5aSc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mKkpOoGM/2XVUdthaLWMwcpoiYtdbyC4vbzkPyd5XdjCSHW4Z8iZ6cMpJi/zTp4GDa e9+r9OVozSpyrZ7CRA7ZrV+g5DHW6mW5DZ6aHacko93APjC7UPRTny6UpAvUeIuqTISx 41zKzwr2bTOnEF38YElIdfOil4PNGWSMNxqD0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110424124129.EA7411834A1@arsenic.violacea.com> <46B5C8DCD8AF4D3BA1250A38A156800E@mpeserver> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 12:42:46 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 3D - Doppler effect plugin? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <4lzFsB.A.tyG.oAVtNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109137 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 10:42:48 +0000 (UTC) I too am not really sure what "3D" should be interpreted as in sound (surround system with speakers also in the ceiling and under the floor?), but the Doppler plugin of the GRM Tools Classic bundle aims at the 2D doppler effect in sound. Here's an excerpt of the manual: "Doppler This plug-in lets you move sounds through an audio space with changes in pitch that correspond to their movement. You can also transform sounds through loudspeaker modulation, create unusual vibrato effects ... How does it work? Doppler simulates the effect obtained by moving sound through a two-dimensional space. A sound moving closer to the hearer (placed in the centre of the two- dimensional slider) will be transposed upwards, while a sound moving away from the hearer will be transposed downwards. Movements follow the displacement of the two- dimensional cursor, to which may be added an automatic circular movement. Based on a physical propagation model, this processing also enables the obtaining of non- realistic results by the decoupling of variations in amplitude and in the Doppler effect. The controls are further explained below in the section called Reference." Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 12:11 AM, Tony K wrote: > There's one in one of the Waves FX bundles.=C2=A0 Here's a freebie, but I= 'm not > sure if it's 3D. > > http://www.vstplanet.com/News/2009/ADoppler.htm > > On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Michael Peters wrote: >> >> does anyone know if there is a 3D Doppler VST effect similar to the effe= ct >> that belongs to Audiomulch? in AM you can draw a movement path that >> creates >> a potentially very complex 3D effect, complete with size, speed, reverb, >> and >> adjustable Doppler effect. >> >> -Michael >> > > > > -- > -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- > Tony > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 11:42:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4DD718349C; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 11:42:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_66830e66-aab6-44bd-95f6-ed1b583bc9a7_" X-Originating-IP: [81.132.96.5] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: OT: Moog lap steel Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 11:42:11 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <4CC60BAD-211C-4319-A4B1-68963E7C20FD@baymoon.com>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Apr 2011 11:42:12.0072 (UTC) FILETIME=[D0F83E80:01CC033D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109138 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 11:42:13 +0000 (UTC) --_66830e66-aab6-44bd-95f6-ed1b583bc9a7_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I remember reading about Carlos Santana walking round stage during the soun= dcheck and marking the stage with some gaffa tape where he could get sustai= ned feedback. Don't know if this is apocryphal though. Gareth=2C Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > Date: Sun=2C 24 Apr 2011 11:43:42 +0200 > Subject: Re: OT: Moog lap steel > From: louie.angulo@googlemail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > very nice Bill! i always wisdh there was a lapsteel that could sustain > notes for ever=2Ci remember listening the the end of Led Zeppelins "over > the hills and far away" and couldnt figure out how they had recorded > that.Then in an interview somewhere i read that Jimm Page had done it > with a lapsteel but i still find it amazing how he got it to sustain > like that for so long=2Cit sound as there is also some sort of organ but > im not sure=2C same thing with some of those Hendrix and Santanas > solos=2Cthey amost sounded as if they had a sustaier bulit in=3B-) > I guess all they should be the credited with being perhaps the > godfathers of sustain=3B-) > Luis >=20 > On Wed=2C Apr 13=2C 2011 at 11:29 PM=2C William Walker wrote: > > When I was in at NAMM in January I was introduced to the A and R guy f= or > > Moog who gave me a brief introduction to the new moog lap steel. By > > coincidence I was due to be in Asheville NC=2Cwhere Moog is based=2C fo= r a week > > in March with my wife Nancy to care for her 86 year old mother while > > Nancy's sister was away=2C and I was invited to the factory to further = check > > out the new lap steel and shoot some video of it. I was accompanied by = my > > new good friend and LD member Andy Owens=2C and we had a blast =2C visi= ting the > > factory and meeting nearly everyone who worked there:-)and I had about = an > > hour to check out the the instrument which they edited down in to this > > video. It is really another experience altogether the way this instrume= nt > > handles the infinite sustain thing=2C having owned an ebow forever and = tried > > various sustainer devices. This seems capable of the same kind of mayhe= m=2C > > but also more control and subtlety as well. The most interesting thin= g for > > me was being able to sweep from one chord position to another without h= aving > > to generate sustain by creating a physically driven vibrato by shaking = the > > bar=2C or even striking the strings with my fingers. I might get some g= rief > > from Randy Jackson for being pitchy in places but I went in a sceptic a= nd > > left wondering how I could get the money together to buy one. amazing. > > Enjoy > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7HSmHE0OIrI > > Bill >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > www.luis-angulo.com >=20 = --_66830e66-aab6-44bd-95f6-ed1b583bc9a7_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I remember reading about Carlos Santana walking round stage during the soun= dcheck and marking the stage with some gaffa tape where he could get sustai= ned feedback.
Don't know if this is apocryphal though.



Ga= reth=2C Sentientfx - =3B Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/



= >=3B Date: Sun=2C 24 Apr 2011 11:43:42 +0200
>=3B Subject: Re: OT: M= oog lap steel
>=3B From: louie.angulo@googlemail.com
>=3B To: Loo= pers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
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>=3B very nice Bill! i alw= ays wisdh there was a lapsteel that could sustain
>=3B notes for ever= =2Ci remember listening the the end of Led Zeppelins "over
>=3B the hi= lls and far away" and couldnt figure out how they had recorded
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>=3B >=3B Moog who= gave me a brief introduction to the new moog lap steel.  =3BBy
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>=3B >=3B ho= ur to check out the the instrument which they edited down in to this
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>=3B >=3B handles the infinite sustain thing=2C having own= ed an ebow forever and tried
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>=3B >=3B  =3Bbut= also  =3Bmore control and subtlety as well. The most interesting thing= for
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>=3B >=3B Bill
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= = --_66830e66-aab6-44bd-95f6-ed1b583bc9a7_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 12:06:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7F7618349D; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 12:06:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=A0/ZoPYDKeqkQ5Zkl2/YyTYNgYF33AiQTjb0WhnKsuc=; b=iKdyca9MwqCKe7p3Yfe6L9J45/CJVLPjv34lJX7trV8UpRzkWV/VcVrp9WrAMdGvqx VbPodWVqhuH6CsJHEs8cVf1wgDk4a1QCbSHNCeWu5qW2rlevJa6ehbdJqA/QBO4VIx9j wbGkbNECYflX9kbB3B+Dl74WkarUyIuEAyXYU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=WfKHY/+PFZUdQaFW2gEbAXglWuEVCOttbC9QECiunXr6BiVS8Uk8GNbaODxnUUKrdO T2gFKWlfqsz+Xs7SkLrPaSnJ9uGFBbLnzeEtq8i5Rwng80hIdV6Jdu5xh/9ZJfHFYGTA MBwzj5CxMGLWOxFeD+CwhBTyFkgGCEADxemqc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4CC60BAD-211C-4319-A4B1-68963E7C20FD@baymoon.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 14:06:09 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Moog lap steel From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <6sC3j.A.NW.yOWtNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109139 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 12:06:10 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > I remember reading about Carlos Santana walking round stage during the > soundcheck and marking the stage with some gaffa tape where he could get > sustained feedback. > Don't know if this is apocryphal though. Probably authentic, cause this is the best way you can prepare for playing with acoustic feedback on stage. And in the studio... well, actually it works even better in the studio because acoustics won't change with an entering audience. The acoustic feedback hotspots you mark up in the room will stay the same during recording. Measuring feedback spots on stage and mark them out with tape on the floor is the safe and scientific method.If you forget to do this preparation at the sound check you can always try "Plan B", the more powerful but less reliable method successfully practiced by Hendrix and Townshend: seeking a close encounter with the speaker cones. This can turn out expensive though. The best guitars I have owned for acoustic feedback have all been old and built of rather light wood. Like the late fifties SG junior model (mahogany). If using a hollowbody guitar the feedback process evolves too fast (for my taste) for musical application. And if using a modern "long sustain" type of guitar you may have difficulties playing musically with the acoustic feedback because it evolves too slowly, or might not occur at all. That's quite funny; the guitars that are less good for "the never ending Santana tone" is marketed as "having more sustain". A typical hoax based on measuring guitar tone from materia and meeters rather than musicianship. Acoustic feedback is a very organic process. The Sustainiac C clamp on vibrator gadget is close to the real thing and I think you can learn playing acu feedback quite well from using it when practicing (a bit more neighbor friendly). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 13:03:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B51318349D; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 13:03:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1029 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 13:03:01 UTC Message-Id: From: jayrope LD To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20110425120611.CC1311834A1@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: 3D - Doppler effect plugin? Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 14:45:49 +0200 References: <20110425120611.CC1311834A1@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kliklak.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109140 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 13:03:01 +0000 (UTC) Waves Doppler does the trick, though it sounds almost too good... J - - - jayrope http://www.kliklak.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 16:20:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0485F18349D; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 16:20:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: Subject: portable PA for electronic looper Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 18:20:14 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcwDZKfzHpZLBSGWT2OQU2mLNy/jLg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6090 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109141 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 16:20:20 +0000 (UTC) just wondering what you use if you want to play in a club or gallery which doesn't have a PA and you have to bring your own, and you don't want to use guitar combos but something clean - the stuff that I do does come from the guitar but goes through laptop and plugins and has more the spectrum of keyboard music, with possibly lots of dynamics and bass. A friend uses a pair of Rokit studio monitors for his ambient music but another friend said these are not suitable for more dynamic music, and I should get a small PA instead. No idea what kind of product would be suitable but it should be lightweight, small, and not terribly expensive. Ideas anyone? -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 16:25:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5047218349D; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 16:25:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: portable PA for electronic looper Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: David Gans In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 09:25:20 -0700 Cc: David Gans Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8C94C35C-B554-49F1-8DCC-51E7746A167E@trufun.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109142 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 16:25:22 +0000 (UTC) I use a Roland AC-60 portable PA for all kinds of gigs. Works well for = playing "acoustic" and/or electric guitar in a band setting, too. On Apr 25, 2011, at 9:20 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > just wondering what you use if you want to play in a club or gallery = which > doesn't have a PA and you have to bring your own, and you don't want = to use > guitar combos but something clean - the stuff that I do does come from = the > guitar but goes through laptop and plugins and has more the spectrum = of > keyboard music, with possibly lots of dynamics and bass. A friend uses = a > pair of Rokit studio monitors for his ambient music but another friend = said > these are not suitable for more dynamic music, and I should get a = small PA > instead. No idea what kind of product would be suitable but it should = be > lightweight, small, and not terribly expensive. Ideas anyone? >=20 > -Michael >=20 David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 16:26:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F17D918349D; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 16:26:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer :in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version; bh=eBIZpCrSMDTSLkkIfVdxK+u8ejz2e0L171DNNOeO41A=; b=qy8CodkReoecjAmy3FKawxAr00oK3tOFJ5M6Yf62chCgBgVw01dZH95Zq9J4yED4I+ bnkg1EHMkkERvleysS6uuVy+kBxL+FGlez2xk/iHb3rCamJUfwbxXu4uDJSpYlrbUQ4f g9L8z9YYWoQNaTRBpCQ2g/pulkdkIvaV6DJto= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; b=c+nhTN5NiDVq1BtDg2iP5RdVLZZCju1jPJBQu91E2PDdr+TGZcIEAMHaCv2HOlxFDx xBN5nwRD8kI4THWBB/Db8V3lsmWwJscWonm+59qIo2ZriUFvnjQtCdZbL67/dfgEdCWd vPIqL3JUDg3XB0QTCWw5Uzp3us8txiaW29ywo= Subject: Re: portable PA for electronic looper References: From: Simeon Harris Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPod Mail (8B117) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <30238E63-9947-4541-AEE2-5156C7C60546@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:30:04 +0100 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 8B117) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109143 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 16:26:57 +0000 (UTC) The best solution would probably be two small powered monitors run straight f= rom your audio interface. Cheap will not equate with quality, but have a loo= k at stuff by FBT and QSC as well as the more popular makes like Yamaha and M= ackie.=20 Sent from my iPod On 25 Apr 2011, at 17:20, "Michael Peters" wrote: > just wondering what you use if you want to play in a club or gallery which= > doesn't have a PA and you have to bring your own From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 16:38:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93626183453; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 16:38:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3YEdHo+/1lYHfcLYYj4EG4vlpTlNY/ewM0YZ/5D7TPc=; b=YRcnGuOiMaj0xwcRBB/PaZjdpkFU2ilWsQzuIDPRaRqMzVxlTKuclSl4Iks3XhLCo9 gDKP33TOxvL2DO/a6Ktc89HDV6Aof11ijapIjuTQfrU7FP6GRk/KhFAE/jPiZAhyJgjN 6qz7eBbquLEtgs+tWs2Dri/IdTCGupqs1WXKo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=fAqAonsADMprAwt+aUgBVDCYXjPPp9aWY0NOuQvgNAUQztyoe/rk1maOwlnsni5ojP 1Ds9r0HvX2w9I6cMkxrMwtsboaPEVuM/b6ur3aBZslsD445FKEXGYm+Yex1Ss5vs1mUY Borjt8UxKm8L3G8mybFrCVr3tOrR3dt0nPk1A= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <30238E63-9947-4541-AEE2-5156C7C60546@googlemail.com> References: <30238E63-9947-4541-AEE2-5156C7C60546@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 18:38:38 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: portable PA for electronic looper From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175771dce9a1d904a1c0d667 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109144 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 16:38:39 +0000 (UTC) --0015175771dce9a1d904a1c0d667 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 one friend you may know (alain) was recommending the bose L1 compact series ... although a bit pricey. 2011/4/25 Simeon Harris > The best solution would probably be two small powered monitors run straight > from your audio interface. Cheap will not equate with quality, but have a > look at stuff by FBT and QSC as well as the more popular makes like Yamaha > and Mackie. > > Sent from my iPod > > On 25 Apr 2011, at 17:20, "Michael Peters" wrote: > > > just wondering what you use if you want to play in a club or gallery > which > > doesn't have a PA and you have to bring your own > > -- .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com --0015175771dce9a1d904a1c0d667 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable one friend you may know (alain) was recommending the bose L1 compact series= ... although a bit pricey.

2011/4/25 Sim= eon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com>
The best solution would probably be two sma= ll powered monitors run straight from your audio interface. Cheap will not = equate with quality, but have a look at stuff by FBT and QSC as well as the= more popular makes like Yamaha and Mackie.

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On 25 Apr 2011, at 17:20, "Michael Peters" <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:

> just wondering what you use if you want to play in a club or gallery w= hich
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--0015175771dce9a1d904a1c0d667-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 16:40:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A35A5183486; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 16:40:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=z4AlRg6m+N7/e85gVtEc6LjPOsZuNSybkDfqZk4+Yxk=; b=A/czhwkm3gvyt2LSCOuR584iJYvLa274z65+wy7qkYuJnhdzRDmO9gaWj9vjXAQ9Cx M6GPQ7uRG6gqcrsljLAz/rRlvgziTrN+iQeS6i6ucTpYfzTgrIyiAfGgdaFw+FkcIBAn 3Wdo+xWSJNldALTbinX4srQYND8ECkRo3SPKQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=N3RH4MR44Ait16OLA5hiWy98oypFGhcZA6O/6apmaE+ZBXhl2UzR4HxO3H2z5ojClH w8haW/I7HMID24BagFs6Kj+amoePljmdFzL2c+xm9ojDLHy8GTs2BTvAIwQ/kGDhQfUl TKieQuJn0VGTewIVoXwr2xmCGmt65Tm8JtVqI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 18:36:54 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: portable PA for electronic looper From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <1gmWyB.A.kBH.qPatNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109145 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 16:40:10 +0000 (UTC) I don't own a small PA (yet) and rely on what they have or what they can rent in for the gig. The typical "good enough" system is the basic small Mackie system; a mixer (not necessary for a laptop loopist rig, but you always get a mixer anyway when renting a PA), two mid/treble satellite speakers on a high stands (important to adjust them above people's heads to prevent the folks at the end of the saloon to hear less treble, due to other guy's heads masking) and one sub bass module. I've found such a typical rental Mackie system working well for guitar, stick, flute or sax material. The low bass is very important because I do a lot of sub bass "substitute stuff" (scripting up one octave, substituting a short slice of audio in the loop before finally transposing back into normal pitch and having the new slices play back way-below). I always keep a low cut filter at 40 Hz to not blow rented speakers and with that setup you achieve a massive low end even with just one Mackie sub. If I go pro in the future with live gigging I may look into a Bose, abused into stereo (as they actually are designed for mono) by two towers and one or two subs. Good thing with Bose is the extreme portability and good sound for every spot in the audience when playing gigs in small rooms (since they don't send much sound upwards or downwards to bounce back from the ceiling and floor and interfere with the direct sound). But you need a future income plan to pick up the Bose system, it's not a very economic one gig solution. Powered studio monitors have always failed me when I have been set up to perform on such a system. A PA seems better for live playing, even though studio monitors "look better sounding" by paper specification. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Michael Peters wrote: > just wondering what you use if you want to play in a club or gallery which > doesn't have a PA and you have to bring your own, and you don't want to use > guitar combos but something clean - the stuff that I do does come from the > guitar but goes through laptop and plugins and has more the spectrum of > keyboard music, with possibly lots of dynamics and bass. A friend uses a > pair of Rokit studio monitors for his ambient music but another friend said > these are not suitable for more dynamic music, and I should get a small PA > instead. No idea what kind of product would be suitable but it should be > lightweight, small, and not terribly expensive. Ideas anyone? > > -Michael > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 16:42:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97C3C18349E; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 16:42:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=V6XD+OvDOScG88j19jEu+k5TiktVqa7cJBw0oHN+AJo=; b=LRDQuwdG4jfWtE3fqMplfqWLsDvzcVe1cC9jIsX5DYA5QJUKNggUtZsP9EZAktJ3/M rGL5isr26WU+oGiWsMO14HqLOwJsU87SswQhen/yr391u9XYhaN26/7XZv+eqfRCsgi3 OZhJ4Kdjkd0ocZOxsJkrQBxHyaxN2IVIj/WnA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=p0Br0JAIkUtwXDCM3eogjhMfTyPSLzvmwrerQ1gtgXTDoIKvI5UAkOdIrbsvnbTE7C e/seCakD5+YdyZa9fs2It6hurQ3omdNaOspnL5fKdu8eH9ahCTM6bkmMLA9VQPo9tj9P arl6NVvUSDPIVULKwWExhpTGnYS7NXVI5BCl4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <30238E63-9947-4541-AEE2-5156C7C60546@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 18:42:44 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: portable PA for electronic looper From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109146 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 16:42:45 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > one friend you may know (alain) was recommending the bose L1 compact series > ... although a bit pricey. Many around here also recommend them. So many good musicians I trust that I too started recommending them and some folks that bought them tell me they are super happy. One female vocalist that typically sings to backtracks at weddings and parties says she had to buy an extra sub module in order to have people dance at the gigs, and especially at the DJ set after her show (throbbing kick and bass line needed in da house...). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 16:45:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D98FA18349C; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 16:45:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=PwYgnvlkE07hOfTusGl0X4gOku/5XaoQvcScjEoCQGI=; b=a/urinaSxNyNT9JSQq3e+PkzyjWT8hezPr1YF74MwZ3s6Kgn9tk6eXomPnI/WDyuKt tIWs9n8n6xAHuFo9pQE7i6sTdUoprxxPxMkwgIiI0AOKIeogVupD7A7CSB4Jcey7AyRl sPgfgSz8N6ueySjFPfkm10KJq5H3r5vtjqrE8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=R/TsEkBoNeoJm9bqJ3SPo16LswCpIIlf685nJBAR2Gd6O6CtAXwjqrOMRQX74wSMEt TpfxF2DjR6ZYMqqZ49dAfuPb5A/ZUxREDcJZ6xBPBT50Ydy/E98cm6hVlNuKbRaipf+z hYE1BOyZLRDrJhq7nFdWVeZPzkXJVmhwakDMQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 09:45:45 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Electro Harmonix Freeze - a month later From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109147 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 16:45:46 +0000 (UTC) A month later update - I'm still enjoying the Electro Harmonix Freeze. I keep finding new ways to use it (even though the effect itself is pretty simple). While I purchased it as a tool to make instant drones out of non-drone sounds, I find it's also a great tool for adding brief little accents and live character to sounds that are more dynamic. It would be a great effect to have after a looper, for example. I find myself using the volume knob a lot too - one thing I'll do is capture a drone with the volume turned down, and then gradually fade it in and out like a tide. One thing I will say is that it probably has about twice as much use as a hand pedal as a foot pedal. (Mostly because using it well seems to involve keeping an eye on that volume knob.) My only complaints are 1) the wall wart power source, that's almost as big as the unit itself and 2) the switch has a very loud acoustic "click" when activated. That's not appropriate for a pedal that is used so actively. (Would you put a loud clicking switch on a wah-wah pedal?) -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > Got my Electro Harmonix Freeze today. Here are some observations: > > The pedal is small - about 2" across x 4" long. It's only slightly > larger than its wall wart. Yup - the power source is another wall > wart. Some day somebody will think to move the transformer 6" up the > cable instead of at the plug, but until then we can still live like > it's frickin 1985. Also the switch is one of those loud metal > clickers, like on the DL-4. It's easily operated by either hands or > feet. > > Now on to the pedal itself. It has 3 modes. In both "Fast" and "Slow" > mode, the pedal engages only while you're holding the switch. It picks > up whatever sound it hears AT THE MOMENT YOU FIRST PRESS THE SWITCH > and makes a drone out of it. The only difference between fast and slow > is what happens when you let go. (Letting go turns the pedal off.) > With fast, the drone instantly ends. With slow, it takes about a half > second to fade out. The most useful mode is probably "latch". In that > mode, the drone continues after you let go of the switch. If you hit > the switch again, it grabs another drone. To turn the pedal off in > this mode, double tap. > > None of the modes keep a memory. Once a drone is not playing, it's > lost. There is an effect level knob that lets you control the drone > volume level. > > Now, on to sound quality. With smooth sounds such as a guitar or my > "boop" drum machine sound, it sounds close. With something like speech > or typical drum machine sounds, it sounds just a tad murkier, as if > there's a bit of reverb thrown in. I can't quite get a bead on what > interval the loop is at. It does surprisingly well with very short > sounds, but with longer sounds you'll hear a certain ebb and flow, > almost as if it's playing a 1 second sample forward and reverse. At > one point, I swore I heard different harmonics looping at different > time intervals. So yeah - I'm impressed that I don't instantly get how > it works. Lastly, if there's a lot going on when you turn on the > effect (such as when I'm quickly mashing lots of drum machine keys), > it will make a brief coughing sound when you hit the switch, but the > cough will not be part of the drone. Seriously - it sounds like a > cough. > > Overall, I'm happy I got it - it will be a useful effect for my rig > and in general recording, where I'm often trying to make tonal sounds > out of non-tonal sounds. I'll be using it at the Tiny Owl concert > tomorrow (tuesday) night. > > -- > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 17:06:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E71DC18349C; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:06:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=A9jFv5IzdMLge4STf54KgcXfZz7ZfrvRlLj009sQj9U=; b=mFz7gi4O9cmwT3keyH+V1h3Y00AsyP7Fc+F/7ZbF+2kh58Zu/S0qOF5TTGv1hTchum OEyH6D7Yh5+TAEp6zdZIOH7GrBxkOp2olXCJfDvfviHxabM2rTdwglhmmkRFB7v5iR07 rJlLyZ7Ih44vxxfVR46wsoCOemrWAVQYL/sHs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=p6d/e+2UxHQeU9bKlAoH2x0z0/ogTIDO5qRFazXyAM1gpHfOJgBPMR2QDRmHYJZmLb z4gMBu2HI0j9ZVBGhI6yr/timYLC6Vo/WSerQpAMCdeey0BQF9Wd/iHwdCB/CHaW9305 fKso8C9xw9NIkADxK9j3movojJSu/RkGGa6OI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <30238E63-9947-4541-AEE2-5156C7C60546@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 18:06:28 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: portable PA for electronic looper From: Akraf Emaho To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba61374a7638c704a1c13a66 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109148 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:06:29 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba61374a7638c704a1c13a66 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 OK the Bose is fine for the richies amongst us but here's a cheaper option. The Yamaha Stagepas range goes from 150 to 500 watts. I've used a Stagepas 300 for years now and I love it. Great sound, extremely portable and very simple to set up. Works well for crowds of up to 75 or so. Have played to 100 but that's pushing it depending on the arrangement. It has outs for powered speakers so you could supplement it with a sub or whatever for larger gigs. I spent weeks researching before buying the Yamaha and there was nothing in the sector (price range, portability, build, sound) to touch it. If there is now I've not heard of it. Akraf --90e6ba61374a7638c704a1c13a66 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK the Bose is fine for the richies amongst us but here's a cheaper opt= ion.=A0

The Yamaha Stagepas range goes from 150 to 500 w= atts. =A0I've used a Stagepas 300 for years now and I love it. =A0Great= sound, extremely portable and very simple to set up. =A0Works well for cro= wds of up to 75 or so. =A0Have played to 100 but that's pushing it depe= nding on the arrangement.=A0

It has outs for powered speakers so you could supplemen= t it with a sub or whatever for larger gigs.

I spe= nt weeks researching before buying the Yamaha and there was nothing in the = sector (price range, portability, build, sound) to touch it. =A0If there is= now I've not heard of it.

Akraf
--90e6ba61374a7638c704a1c13a66-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 17:26:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F14B31834A3; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:26:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-04-25_05:2011-04-25,2011-04-25,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1104250091 Subject: Re: portable PA for electronic looper From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 10:26:17 -0700 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: <1EF9FDF0-5877-4AB0-8C6F-5E2BC9C40F1B@mac.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109149 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:26:41 +0000 (UTC) > If I go pro in the future with live gigging I may look into a Bose, > abused into stereo (as they actually are designed for mono) by two > towers and one or two subs. Good thing with Bose is the extreme > portability and good sound for every spot in the audience when playing > gigs in small rooms (since they don't send much sound upwards or > downwards to bounce back from the ceiling and floor and interfere with > the direct sound). But you need a future income plan to pick up the > Bose system, it's not a very economic one gig solution. Personally speaking, I don't care for the sound of the Bose system. Its = a big "consumer smile" sound--Lots o low end below 200hz and exaggerated = highs above 3K. =20 But the mid range leaves much to be desired in the way of warmth and = direct projection. =20 What is amazing about the Bose system is that its easy to load in=E2=89=A4= set up and the feedback control works amazingly well. That said, the = same feedback control sounds like crap if you are pushing the system = hard in a live band context. =20 Disappearing intelligibility at high volumes. Now, I know there are those who absolutely love the sound of the Bose = system. Its a subjective thing, I guess. Perhaps its best suited to = solo artists. Not up to drummer accompaniment IMO. Daniel=20 On Apr 25, 2011, at 9:36 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > I don't own a small PA (yet) and rely on what they have or what they > can rent in for the gig. The typical "good enough" system is the basic > small Mackie system; a mixer (not necessary for a laptop loopist rig, > but you always get a mixer anyway when renting a PA), two mid/treble > satellite speakers on a high stands (important to adjust them above > people's heads to prevent the folks at the end of the saloon to hear > less treble, due to other guy's heads masking) and one sub bass > module. I've found such a typical rental Mackie system working well > for guitar, stick, flute or sax material. The low bass is very > important because I do a lot of sub bass "substitute stuff" (scripting > up one octave, substituting a short slice of audio in the loop before > finally transposing back into normal pitch and having the new slices > play back way-below). I always keep a low cut filter at 40 Hz to not > blow rented speakers and with that setup you achieve a massive low end > even with just one Mackie sub. >=20 > If I go pro in the future with live gigging I may look into a Bose, > abused into stereo (as they actually are designed for mono) by two > towers and one or two subs. Good thing with Bose is the extreme > portability and good sound for every spot in the audience when playing > gigs in small rooms (since they don't send much sound upwards or > downwards to bounce back from the ceiling and floor and interfere with > the direct sound). But you need a future income plan to pick up the > Bose system, it's not a very economic one gig solution. >=20 > Powered studio monitors have always failed me when I have been set up > to perform on such a system. A PA seems better for live playing, even > though studio monitors "look better sounding" by paper specification. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Michael Peters wrote: >> just wondering what you use if you want to play in a club or gallery = which >> doesn't have a PA and you have to bring your own, and you don't want = to use >> guitar combos but something clean - the stuff that I do does come = from the >> guitar but goes through laptop and plugins and has more the spectrum = of >> keyboard music, with possibly lots of dynamics and bass. A friend = uses a >> pair of Rokit studio monitors for his ambient music but another = friend said >> these are not suitable for more dynamic music, and I should get a = small PA >> instead. No idea what kind of product would be suitable but it should = be >> lightweight, small, and not terribly expensive. Ideas anyone? >>=20 >> -Michael >>=20 >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 17:36:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A0FD1834AD; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:36:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=saRQz6I7tFCCqajTXHDVr0CW7h8+b74Itm/D1LfrnCo=; b=nQSpSr72dC9pWAlTuQIV36y0Npvhtwq9qG65Llp5pRmLxcE1Pj6P0N6oVF/QJYbs1D QR8hZyUZuJBxtWM4CuFREwlWOrB3TxQRIOBB9NlmXJ5X49pRxOk4wO9/dJiD8m9798oY 7WYkSgNkrI/LuukcefLUUOedMcURnnfdO162A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=i1FozRNxXPYsjubopEJ5YguZSOUOcJITDX5tno4P7sDz1fN/zlC85eDUBXx2GjiX/z ulK5u8b9xC2OAbnLqHdstnqr97HgBq7K11y8eCZk02nSypinbSVvpToD4EdQNqiSTQt2 hTGcQprQbcpunKny63KceFMISlSKBJaRT7kgc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1EF9FDF0-5877-4AB0-8C6F-5E2BC9C40F1B@mac.com> References: <1EF9FDF0-5877-4AB0-8C6F-5E2BC9C40F1B@mac.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 19:35:59 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: portable PA for electronic looper From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109150 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:36:00 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Daniel Thomas wrot= e: > Now, I know there are those who absolutely love the sound of the Bose sys= tem. =C2=A0Its a subjective thing, I guess. > Perhaps its best suited to solo artists. Indeed! That's the "electronic looper" this thread is about ;-) > Not up to drummer accompaniment IMO. Certainly not! If gigging within a full band context you might bring a Bose for your personal stage monitoring (as an alternative to using in-ear plugs monitoring), but a band needs a band PA, not a bunch of Boses. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 17:38:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 969651834B2; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:38:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=67PPgUc0CtgM8E27DXTM5SVmNQEiZYYnqhTvr1M71DI= c=1 sm=1 a=1GmvzaAlhisA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=pR7G0VqH70cA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=1mPEbzcIwNq/5QazqZV7BA==:17 a=v1UT085e12whHvQjnioA:9 a=2VQnkXm1oEvrXJGyJbAA:7 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=1mPEbzcIwNq/5QazqZV7BA==:117 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 13:38:44 -0400 (EDT) From: thetoyroom@charter.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <7156cc88.17e5dd.12f8dbde9dd.Webtop.43@charter.net> Subject: RE: portable PA for electronic looper MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 43 X-Originating-IP: [12.195.92.82] Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109151 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:38:45 +0000 (UTC) From my limited research a while back, the inexpensive portable PA setups are coming from Fender (Passport), Yamaha (Stagepass) and Peavey (Escort). I found a used Peavey Escort locally on Craigslist, the 150 watt model. I don't think they make it anymore, but make a very similar format in 300watts. Honestly, I dig the little thing. I've gotten compliments on sound a couple of times, using it for a couple of house parties, and also for a gig for my wife's dance company. It is suitable for 50-75 people, i would guess. Likes: Good sound. Onboard reverb, which sounds decent to add a bit of air/space to the sound. It likes modeller pedals pretty well. I'm running my Tech 21 'Blonde' into it for guitar, and a Tech 21 Bass Driver for Bass. It 'feels' pretty good for amp-like response, and it means i can switch out from Guitar to Bass whilst looping...all through the same output. Dislikes: In its original packaging, where the speakers/power output all lock together and become rollable, it's a bit heavy. I've since removed the power/mixer section from the 'base' and just carry that in a carrying case, and the speakers I carry seperately. they are very light. No pans on the mono input channels. There are two stereo in options, however, so you could submix a stereo feed or two into this unit. I'm planning on submixing a summer party gig at my place with an Allen+Heath Zed12fx and send the stereo feed to the Peavey for output. It's definitely not Pro level stuff, but it's worked pretty good for my uses so far. Rich On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > just wondering what you use if you want to play in a club or gallery > which > doesn't have a PA and you have to bring your own, and you don't want > to use > guitar combos but something clean - the stuff that I do does come from > the > guitar but goes through laptop and plugins and has more the spectrum > of > keyboard music, with possibly lots of dynamics and bass. A friend uses > a > pair of Rokit studio monitors for his ambient music but another friend > said > these are not suitable for more dynamic music, and I should get a > small PA > instead. No idea what kind of product would be suitable but it should > be > lightweight, small, and not terribly expensive. Ideas anyone? > > -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 17:49:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9BE918349D; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:49:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 150223.54080.bm@omp1022.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1303748741; bh=F0mHZ2dwK4ox3Sg3BtuFzX8QMWQ4yEx7Lyq7cq1S5g0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CLVm0PB5KS+dr+Bc0MxGV8lWu9y24sdjJTuGSpDXesLC4I5gLEq9VMxCOZd0wt5ZOmV6joYiL8VLU6l8v63auVZOd+4yCaGsBOLHL+q51PR1TpkxVbigVasfV+Oua/72lvhhH0oiMgqj61KclMCqIy1q8BBK7VbzDNQ575xaBXQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XNkmn33ySrVF487avQZZgICqLKuOJdECiyYjS7Qkw0Rlqt3jV/O+gYyrkBDnzEwrQQipzQr3UTiBHVearGPHP4oQpEKq06eICQ9RvN/O+nBXdLPl9zyHDCop+kFxMFnRxBSqyl8viojZWfVEgfmqfjcHl/f3zxBICIQtzqfzOOk=; Message-ID: <43071.98733.qm@web120707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: G48adA8VM1lnmibuFC_kRLqOjI7it3aZKvgrq8QZYo855d7 LJI2RszplwI6O4wh.rXLPF4pM0kl6lKinin3cySWCil9DCLc6WBv4g0jGTKJ sZ_FAInBQNtWEfEMWk8zp_WlpbbaBWm.88O7JjpRJ.zA0tEcTzLntiE_NYTV 94shHnYsY9oAkqO_F_TSb58PD0_RwYcJJLMSymm4LraGBSGj4pOBYbBiTzmd Devs5oTII_Cia9eXfM27Nk5SxnXAQqMv2JuXYjKH8pxh5g5ux9F1Hn6fcvs2 zpNg55iKFodjONlQKy4HC2jhgRjF5FJFpxVYewerFjtIYk5_ODQXdxfF7GyD NSzZJgAb35OMNlrig7oHOYEZPxjE6NYrQDPDoAUwglXna69HGZPLjnw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.110.299900 References: Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 09:25:40 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: portable PA for electronic looper To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1907002457-1303748740=:98733" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109152 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:49:26 +0000 (UTC) --0-1907002457-1303748740=:98733 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Bose L1 compact Antony ________________________________ From: Michael Peters To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Mon, April 25, 2011 6:20:14 PM Subject: portable PA for electronic looper just wondering what you use if you want to play in a club or gallery which doesn't have a PA and you have to bring your own, and you don't want to use guitar combos but something clean - the stuff that I do does come from the guitar but goes through laptop and plugins and has more the spectrum of keyboard music, with possibly lots of dynamics and bass. A friend uses a pair of Rokit studio monitors for his ambient music but another friend said these are not suitable for more dynamic music, and I should get a small PA instead. No idea what kind of product would be suitable but it should be lightweight, small, and not terribly expensive. Ideas anyone? -Michael --0-1907002457-1303748740=:98733 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Bose L1 compact

Antony

From: Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Mon, April 25, 2011 6:20:14 PM
Subject: portable PA for electronic looper

just wondering what you use if you want to play in a club or gallery which
doesn't have a PA and you have to bring your own, and you don't want to use
guitar combos but something clean - the stuff that I do does come from the
guitar but goes through laptop and plugins and has more the spectrum of
keyboard music, with possibly lots of dynamics and bass. A friend uses a
pair of Rokit studio monitors for his ambient music but another friend said
these are not suitable for more dynamic music, and I should get a small PA
instead. No idea what kind of product would be suitable but it should be
lightweight, small, and not terribly expensive. Ideas anyone?

-Michael

--0-1907002457-1303748740=:98733-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 17:57:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D746118349F; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:57:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ERWwcBpoRJdLZCOddDqz8QjLBTZse+l6p9Fomy4IfZA=; b=LvLIa6S0HpqDHQ2K/eLcyI/IBplfpvcEpzYtGlFE+2wdrtLro03+tAG+cV8oSTUte4 n48vzXbnSVKiCT6XznHIxEzYSks9w/R8oixGnVjRdAlkm7pPN2rwSAVp/A+pQNWHxGEX wN7ogp266XNS4BtIivGJ0vHzQa9baewAhqslU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=futq5W1vNCVCVx5bNP7c3M9hRJmEyDnzKrXvqk8xLf2u1O5ySbFrnlZvh5DjoilSQp HuBD/xYE0CA+1rBAbblea56fM3tUpd4ZwHGW+6FrZiJeLVs3uTXzyY9IYqN0GrvkzC0h YNxJGl1TvrHRUrX/kSKB4Qt6OBYMUyvINiwhs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <43071.98733.qm@web120707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <43071.98733.qm@web120707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 19:56:54 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: QkIiZoyHtmHSCvWx_PWks20IWzs Message-ID: Subject: Re: portable PA for electronic looper To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109153 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:57:15 +0000 (UTC) Here in Norway, its unlikely that a coffeebar/cafe style "gig" will NOT have a PA, if they are doing gigs, they=B4ll have a PA.. And they will probably insist that you use it.. no bringing in anything else. So I havent owned an amp for about 20 years. I do sometime get a request to do an Art opening or something... Then I just bring my studio monitors (the tiny Genelecs) that just lack bass ooomph.. so I borrow a big speaker and plug it into the Gennys Bottom out socket (well its got a roll-off switch at least...) Probably bad usage, but works for me... Mark On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 6:25 PM, wrote: > Bose L1 compact > Antony > ________________________________ > From: Michael Peters > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Mon, April 25, 2011 6:20:14 PM > Subject: portable PA for electronic looper > > just wondering what you use if you want to play in a club or gallery whic= h > doesn't have a PA and you have to bring your own, and you don't want to u= se > guitar combos but something clean - the stuff that I do does come from th= e > guitar but goes through laptop and plugins and has more the spectrum of > keyboard music, with possibly lots of dynamics and bass. A friend uses a > pair of Rokit studio monitors for his ambient music but another friend sa= id > these are not suitable for more dynamic music, and I should get a small P= A > instead. No idea what kind of product would be suitable but it should be > lightweight, small, and not terribly expensive. Ideas anyone? > > -Michael > > --=20 Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 18:13:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 82CFA18349D; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 18:13:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A0B0209.4DB5B9AC.0019,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-libjamoibt: 1419 Message-ID: <11046191.2726011303755179940.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:12:59 +0200 (CEST) From: "luigimeloni74@libero.it" Reply-To: "luigimeloni74@libero.it" To: Subject: R: portable PA for electronic looper MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SenderIP: 151.64.117.245 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109154 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 18:13:02 +0000 (UTC) I'm trying a jbl system, the small PRX612. They are a two way 1000 watt monitors. I'm thinking about buying them, since they are relatively light, weighting near 13 kg each. Maybe in the future I'll complete the system with a couple of subs, since I've tried the PRX ones with a bigger system (the 635, 1500 watt three way) and i've been really impressed. Luigi >----Messaggio originale---- >Da: mp@mpeters.de >Data: 25/04/2011 18.20 >A: >Ogg: portable PA for electronic looper > >just wondering what you use if you want to play in a club or gallery which >doesn't have a PA and you have to bring your own, and you don't want to use >guitar combos but something clean - the stuff that I do does come from the >guitar but goes through laptop and plugins and has more the spectrum of >keyboard music, with possibly lots of dynamics and bass. A friend uses a >pair of Rokit studio monitors for his ambient music but another friend said >these are not suitable for more dynamic music, and I should get a small PA >instead. No idea what kind of product would be suitable but it should be >lightweight, small, and not terribly expensive. Ideas anyone? > >-Michael > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 18:18:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 360F41834A0; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 18:18:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=nPeZTkaI6iwDSapqz+QCONLppt5Dpp2zOQ/T2fynv4o=; b=hYw6HteH2EjeZQr6VwFcXq8EuZ3bV/IKQAZD7OewYtM4LTZZsSEh/gFS26887BHQBk hqKi8LEtJE0E+6LWT1F7T/m5Up+8msrFWRm8kAaOza3kEbWZKPVRA98B3df6fZedga5w gg1z51IK7auSs4o5pW3mcekficO+AnUPG23j0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=V0qox23RYYYsI/QcXOo3jvMSGfoaxdlpTkGSZzFn/EdgEPxV1G3G9FDHW0xyHxG9TI s8rCOUtYpIJQxwXrqLwL/vDH3y5+URz9wMP1eTpBCSqMj/iiynIeGb+rGWhtrBIvJFci H7G2Vl0CLKKko2VA+6SS8GL9pCFmP++be45k0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 14:18:32 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: portable PA From: Loaf citious To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3026702633485204a1c23c94 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109155 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 18:18:33 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3026702633485204a1c23c94 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Personally I make tons of noise w one Hartke A70. Full band EQ and a built in limiter. There's no horn in it but its more of a big monitor than a bass amp. I've been plenty happy w the high end. And its easy to throw it on my shoulder and go up 3 flights of stairs. One day ill get another and round out my stereo rig. Andy G. --20cf3026702633485204a1c23c94 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Personally I make tons of noise w one Hartke A70.
Full band EQ and a built in limiter. There's no horn in it but its more= of a big monitor than a bass amp. I've been plenty happy w the high en= d.=A0 And its easy to throw it on my shoulder and go up 3 flights of stairs= . One day ill get another and round out my stereo rig.
Andy G.

--20cf3026702633485204a1c23c94-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 18:25:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E88331834A9; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 18:25:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0a74dxMeB/pNH5ehOlVUdqAmvZqWBuXrbk9aQiH03Qw=; b=hlrPeNF5zYUq0JUjoPzVrCory/NDccMAZW0gcZaQP0J7NBSGoUFfMK6u5nh/G7K4I5 6+0oIZT6wG+a90BLmr7ItsW3jCyaxBAkHS12RS2JEyF0kY0Sead4bBEltJq2Menz5o7k p+5qfVA7R+N5QSB4S2PTfiAT/NxkEf30yCZeI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Yf3H8ckK8ujnGHrk+B7XHn8FC8ri/hHTmYKdfJTx/08J01Y5PH7yGkKmdEIRnMH2sS iSCNvYt3WQxAnfYgzTaRFlUOBqnJefrwkP7S8UoKBLLtVR/ZtyEYWHrLbkcyHxFYlYp+ jlaFdNEngqyPbTtt7AhVS7uAoIEkAXKsbWmbY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:24:59 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: portable PA for electronic looper From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163646d9af4488ad04a1c25389 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109156 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 18:25:00 +0000 (UTC) --00163646d9af4488ad04a1c25389 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 consider these (i'm using): http://www.roland.com/products/en/CM-30/ for gallery, low gain gigs they sound phenomenal. more low end than tiny mackies, equal power. and you have a built in mixer on them. 2011/4/25 Per Boysen > I don't own a small PA (yet) and rely on what they have or what they > can rent in for the gig. The typical "good enough" system is the basic > small Mackie system; a mixer (not necessary for a laptop loopist rig, > but you always get a mixer anyway when renting a PA), two mid/treble > satellite speakers on a high stands (important to adjust them above > people's heads to prevent the folks at the end of the saloon to hear > less treble, due to other guy's heads masking) and one sub bass > module. I've found such a typical rental Mackie system working well > for guitar, stick, flute or sax material. The low bass is very > important because I do a lot of sub bass "substitute stuff" (scripting > up one octave, substituting a short slice of audio in the loop before > finally transposing back into normal pitch and having the new slices > play back way-below). I always keep a low cut filter at 40 Hz to not > blow rented speakers and with that setup you achieve a massive low end > even with just one Mackie sub. > > If I go pro in the future with live gigging I may look into a Bose, > abused into stereo (as they actually are designed for mono) by two > towers and one or two subs. Good thing with Bose is the extreme > portability and good sound for every spot in the audience when playing > gigs in small rooms (since they don't send much sound upwards or > downwards to bounce back from the ceiling and floor and interfere with > the direct sound). But you need a future income plan to pick up the > Bose system, it's not a very economic one gig solution. > > Powered studio monitors have always failed me when I have been set up > to perform on such a system. A PA seems better for live playing, even > though studio monitors "look better sounding" by paper specification. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Michael Peters wrote: > > just wondering what you use if you want to play in a club or gallery > which > > doesn't have a PA and you have to bring your own, and you don't want to > use > > guitar combos but something clean - the stuff that I do does come from > the > > guitar but goes through laptop and plugins and has more the spectrum of > > keyboard music, with possibly lots of dynamics and bass. A friend uses a > > pair of Rokit studio monitors for his ambient music but another friend > said > > these are not suitable for more dynamic music, and I should get a small > PA > > instead. No idea what kind of product would be suitable but it should be > > lightweight, small, and not terribly expensive. Ideas anyone? > > > > -Michael > > > > > > -- .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com --00163646d9af4488ad04a1c25389 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable consider these (i'm using):

http://www.roland.com/products/en/CM-30/

for ga= llery, low gain gigs they sound phenomenal. more low end than tiny mackies,= equal power. and you have a built in mixer on them.



2011/4/25 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
I don't own a small PA (yet) and rely on what they have or what they can rent in for the gig. The typical "good enough" system is the = basic
small Mackie system; a mixer (not necessary for a laptop loopist rig,
but you always get a mixer anyway when renting a PA), two mid/treble
satellite speakers on a high stands (important to adjust them above
people's heads to prevent the folks at the end of the saloon to hear less treble, due to other guy's heads masking) and one sub bass
module. I've found such a typical rental Mackie system working well
for guitar, stick, flute or sax material. The low bass is very
important because I do a lot of sub bass "substitute stuff" (scri= pting
up one octave, substituting a short slice of audio in the loop before
finally transposing back into normal pitch and having the new slices
play back way-below). I always keep a low cut filter at 40 Hz to not
blow rented speakers and with that setup you achieve a massive low end
even with just one Mackie sub.

If I go pro in the future with live gigging I may look into a Bose,
abused into stereo (as they actually are designed for mono) by two
towers and one or two subs. Good thing with Bose is the extreme
portability and good sound for every spot in the audience when playing
gigs in small rooms (since they don't send much sound upwards or
downwards to bounce back from the ceiling and floor and interfere with
the direct sound). But you need a future income plan to pick up the
Bose system, it's not a very economic one gig solution.

Powered studio monitors have always failed me when I have been set up
to perform on such a system. A PA seems better for live playing, even
though studio monitors "look better sounding" by paper specificat= ion.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub



On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
> just wondering what you use if you want to play in a club or gallery w= hich
> doesn't have a PA and you have to bring your own, and you don'= t want to use
> guitar combos but something clean - the stuff that I do does come from= the
> guitar but goes through laptop and plugins and has more the spectrum o= f
> keyboard music, with possibly lots of dynamics and bass. A friend uses= a
> pair of Rokit studio monitors for his ambient music but another friend= said
> these are not suitable for more dynamic music, and I should get a smal= l PA
> instead. No idea what kind of product would be suitable but it should = be
> lightweight, small, and not terribly expensive. Ideas anyone?
>
> -Michael
>
>




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raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com


--00163646d9af4488ad04a1c25389-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 18:42:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 114821834A9; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 18:42:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=QNr1gt8kOsnQngFWCl2g4kMjqAatzMcBKa+p98NRPWc=; b=Rg75aGIRXyjqW0/K2TB20feJa9ljMLP3DtB6+cLUapwuuSfxjpp+ayWTuZ+DvLpTf1 9aJaK6eo2ul+oiQjMdinZfvZGf/DYr1smVFSRIXIZ6Rl+hbbXsTUCHzSPo8L7lkgEb74 yhM7fJShFMMqCTjmogjXbDfmzm7dmrRFo+mJU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=KBDSjAb3TQ0rNJlMasSCwiGg0l6bV3DwbSMdRNH2ijcir/l4WUChJ15ikfKxLlDaem p9/zCi/MIIVLgnhtZSmkaNBUeFR7dsePF80mGbriYNMFxtaJvlZX2tFmayPia55fu/LD RuCZFYrCMQSZaOl1W0dF7+tQeJ5+RQrScFavw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DB4CB2C.7060206@cruzio.com> References: <4DB4CB2C.7060206@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 11:42:23 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: COOL LOOPERLATIVE TRICKS From: Eric DeAratanha To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec548a7257d4d4b04a1c29196 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109157 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 18:42:24 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec548a7257d4d4b04a1c29196 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the tips rick! But what are the LP1 scripts for the Redhouse Effect you mentioned? Im excited to try them out. -Eric On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > I was rereading a very creative email I got from our own Dust Bunnie's > chronicling of some > creative uses of Looperlative combined commands (the LP-1 allows for a > single midi button > to control up to 8 sequential functions) and I thought it would be cool t= o > have > everyone write in with their most creative and idiosyncratic setups for t= he > Looperlative. > > I'll post one of mine to start and below that I'll reprint Duke's creativ= e > approaches. > > Rick Walker > _* > ERSATZ MELLOTRON effect*_ (in Looperlative LP-1) > > 1) Scroll to assign Midi/User button, hit enter (display will now read 'h= it > Midi button') > 2) Tap Midi button #1 > 3) Scroll to any desired Interval (chromatically over one octave) > these commands are at the end of the scrolled menu list added, graciously= , > by Bob Amstadt at my request. > 4) Push Track #2 button on faceplate > 5) Scroll to RETRIGGER > 6) Hit ENTER > 7) Hit Midi button #2 and repeat steps 1)-6) for up to an entire Scale of > your chosing. > > On a typical set of Midi pedals there are 10 pedals. I assign Pedal numbe= rs > 1-8 > diatonically from the low octave up to the original pitch assignment (I > always reserve 9 and 10 for previous track and next track, respectively) > > In this way, I can always visually see what scale number I'm on for > improvising melodies. > > Personally, I always have a bank of Minor Key 'Organ' pedals and a bank o= r > two of exotic scales > > It is efficacious using this technique to _make a looped sound that is NO= T > chordal and that has a sharp > transient at the start of the loop._ > > Because the sample lengths change, the transients help to make a kind of > 'clicking' sound at the start of > each note which sound more 'organesque' (wow, is that a word?) > > A cool, more experimental approach is to NOT include a RETRIGGER command = in > each midi pedal. > > In this way if you have a long but timbrally morphing single note on an > instrument the pitch will change > but the timbre will always be random as you will be changing the pitch in > the middle of the loop. > > This technique is very hip but is not very useful for typical melodic use= s. > > ************************************************************************* > > Okee dokee...............Here's DUST BUNNIE's very hip suggestions (thank= s > for the inspiration, buddy): > * > 'RED HOUSE' effect * (Looperlative LP-1) > > For instance, I put together a command that emulates what I call the =91R= ed > House=92 effect (listen to =91Two Soldiers=92 or =91The Red House=92 from= David > Byrne=92s =93The Catherine Wheel=94 to hear what I=92m talking about). Wi= th this > one, the loop buffer starts to fill as long as I have the MIDI pedal > depressed. The moment I let up on the pedal, it immediately begins to loo= p > whatever was in the buffer. Depress it again, and the previous buffer is > immediately erased and begins filling a second time. This allows me to ta= p > the pedal quickly to capture very short looped snippets =97 or stutters = =97 of > sound. A slightly longer tap means a slightly longer snippet. If I tap > several times while playing a line, it almost sounds like realtime granul= ar, > as the loop buffer grabs one =91snapshot=92 after another of what I=92m p= laying. > > *'TIME STRETCH' effect* (Looperlative LP-1 using AUX outs and outboard > Pitch Shifter) > > Another one I put together allows me to do time-stretch, in conjunction > with an outboard pitch-shift unit on the Auxiliary outs (oh yeah, multipl= e > outputs: there=92s another feature not mentioned above). I=92ll begin rec= ording > a loop as normal. Then I=92ve a command that closes/plays the loop, assig= ns it > to Aux Out 1 (where it=92s sent to a pitch shifter set to +1 octave, then > routed back into the LP-1), drops to Half-Speed, and starts a Bounce on t= he > next track. This results in the recording of a time-stretched track that = is > twice the length, but at the same pitch as the original. I can also begin= to > get Repeater-esque degrade effects, dependent upon the crappiness of the > pitch-shifter I=92m using. Throw in some other effects (bit-shift or > sample-rate degradation, synchronized slicing from the EF-303, etc.) and > things can get pretty wild. > > > > > --bcaec548a7257d4d4b04a1c29196 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the tips rick! But what are the LP1 scripts for the Redhouse Eff= ect you mentioned? Im excited to try them out.

-Eric

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com= > wrote:
I was rereading a= very creative email I got from our own Dust Bunnie's chronicling of so= me
creative uses of Looperlative combined commands (the LP-1 allows for a sing= le midi button
to control up to 8 sequential functions) and I thought it would be cool to = have
everyone write in with their most creative and idiosyncratic setups for the= Looperlative.

I'll post one of mine to start and below that I'll reprint Duke'= ;s creative approaches.

Rick Walker
_*
ERSATZ MELLOTRON effect*_ (in Looperlative LP-1)

1) Scroll to assign Midi/User button, hit enter (display will now read '= ;hit Midi button')
2) Tap Midi button #1
3) Scroll to any desired Interval (chromatically over one octave)
these commands are at the end of the scrolled menu list added, graciously, = by Bob Amstadt at my request.
4) Push Track #2 button on faceplate
5) Scroll to RETRIGGER
6) Hit ENTER
7) Hit Midi button #2 and repeat steps 1)-6) for up to an entire Scale of y= our chosing.

On a typical set of Midi pedals there are 10 pedals. I assign Pedal numbers= 1-8
diatonically from the low octave up to the original pitch assignment (I alw= ays reserve 9 and 10 for previous track and next track, respectively)

In this way, I can always visually see what scale number I'm on for imp= rovising melodies.

Personally, I always have a bank of Minor Key 'Organ' pedals and a = bank or two of exotic scales

It is efficacious using this technique to _make a looped sound that is NOT = chordal and that has a sharp
transient at the start of the loop._

Because the sample lengths change, the transients help to make a kind of &#= 39;clicking' sound at the start of
each note which sound more 'organesque' (wow, is that a word?)

A cool, more experimental approach is to NOT include a RETRIGGER command in= each midi pedal.

In this way if you have a long but timbrally morphing single note on an ins= trument the pitch will change
but the timbre will always be random as you will be changing the pitch in t= he middle of the loop.

This technique is very hip but is not very useful for typical melodic uses.=

*************************************************************************
Okee dokee...............Here's DUST BUNNIE's very hip suggestions = (thanks for the inspiration, buddy):
*
'RED HOUSE' effect * (Looperlative LP-1)

For instance, I put together a command that emulates what I call the =91Red= House=92 effect (listen to =91Two Soldiers=92 or =91The Red House=92 from = David Byrne=92s =93The Catherine Wheel=94 to hear what I=92m talking about)= . With this one, the loop buffer starts to fill as long as I have the MIDI = pedal depressed. The moment I let up on the pedal, it immediately begins to= loop whatever was in the buffer. Depress it again, and the previous buffer= is immediately erased and begins filling a second time. This allows me to = tap the pedal quickly to capture very short looped snippets =97 or stutters= =97 of sound. A slightly longer tap means a slightly longer snippet. If I = tap several times while playing a line, it almost sounds like realtime gran= ular, as the loop buffer grabs one =91snapshot=92 after another of what I= =92m playing.

*'TIME STRETCH' effect* (Looperlative LP-1 using AUX outs and outbo= ard Pitch Shifter)

Another one I put together allows me to do time-stretch, in conjunction wit= h an outboard pitch-shift unit on the Auxiliary outs (oh yeah, multiple out= puts: there=92s another feature not mentioned above). I=92ll begin recordin= g a loop as normal. Then I=92ve a command that closes/plays the loop, assig= ns it to Aux Out 1 (where it=92s sent to a pitch shifter set to +1 octave, = then routed back into the LP-1), drops to Half-Speed, and starts a Bounce o= n the next track. This results in the recording of a time-stretched track t= hat is twice the length, but at the same pitch as the original. I can also = begin to get Repeater-esque degrade effects, dependent upon the crappiness = of the pitch-shifter I=92m using. Throw in some other effects (bit-shift or= sample-rate degradation, synchronized slicing from the EF-303, etc.) and t= hings can get pretty wild.





--bcaec548a7257d4d4b04a1c29196-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 18:53:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC6081834A1; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 18:53:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DB5C312.8090705@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 11:53:06 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Davignon CC: Loopers Delight Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - a month later References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109158 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 18:53:15 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > I find it's also a great tool for adding > brief little accents and live character to sounds that are more > dynamic. It would be a great effect to have after a looper, for > example. Mine's on order at Union Grove Music and I can't wait to get it in. In the meantime, I just updated my firmware on my M9 to 2.2 and there are a whole bunch of very hip effects included in the new patches. I particularly love this one effect called Barber Pole Phaser in conjunction with their equivalent of the 'Slow Gear' sound. I've got four strings on my Purple Strat (dayglo orange, of course) forcing it into a Tenor Guitar situation........I'm using my new harmonic capo a lot and having a great time. That Freeze pedal is going to be epic. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 19:04:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B424918349E; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 19:04:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=LG388EjIwmnRE/vJMJE0apjUdCKzeapOUwUcQ6XFns4= c=1 sm=1 a=KfGq-mLK1qwA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=pR7G0VqH70cA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=qYz8RHWopigd8QnFYCx1XA==:17 a=QMtuPM9mh1cteUOfZtcA:9 a=w6vbP7zFXX2UGd61oOkA:7 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=NbA5jXxchm8kKBxX:21 a=FwD1xHvO5qTFe_9p:21 a=qYz8RHWopigd8QnFYCx1XA==:117 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 15:04:01 -0400 (EDT) From: =?UTF8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <7865c358.17f862.12f8e0bfe71.Webtop.43@charter.net> Subject: RE: portable PA for electronic looper MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 43 X-Originating-IP: [68.118.35.162] Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109159 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 19:04:02 +0000 (UTC) Michael, I have used a pair of Mackie SRM150s alone for small art gallery or living room gigs with no problem at all. In situations where a full-size PA would've been total overkill they perform just fine - and they really weren't particularly made for it. True, they won't give you that huge, butt-shaking, "tectonic" low end. But they are plenty loud in a small(ish) venue. Think of them as 150 watt mini Mackies with high-quality 5.5" speakers housed in something the size of a lunchbox and that fits atop a mic stand (if you want to put them up where people can hear 'em). I must mention one caveat though, as long as you are getting your tonal "warmth" via other means (plug-ins or hardware devices) you are okay, but I did find these things slightly cold (too clean and flat) for straight, plug 'n' play guitar amplification. Also, brand new they are too expensive (to my thinking) but I picked both of mine up used (but mint) on Ebay for about half of what they go for new. I asked around for all sorts of advice before I bought them and a number of people tried to talk me out of spending my money on them. However, they've worked out quite well (I think). If I had to do it again, I'd buy 'em all over again. A big plus is onboard EQ and 3-channel mixing too. Cheers, Ted On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > just wondering what you use if you want to play in a club or gallery > which > doesn't have a PA and you have to bring your own, and you don't want > to use > guitar combos but something clean - the stuff that I do does come from > the > guitar but goes through laptop and plugins and has more the spectrum > of > keyboard music, with possibly lots of dynamics and bass. l From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 19:05:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D9D71834A2; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 19:05:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: portable PA for electronic looper Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 12:05:12 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109160 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 19:05:19 +0000 (UTC) Roland BA 330, these are a very loud battery op amp,though not cheap. about the size of a mackie SRM450. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 19:08:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 371AF18344B; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 19:08:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <26014DAB-7513-4FA4-ABD7-0CD777BFEBEF@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Electro Harmonix Freeze - a month later Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 12:07:55 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109161 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 19:08:02 +0000 (UTC) Erdem has been using one of these on his viol-guitar during our latest series of recordings, it is seriously cool Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 19:08:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A14C1834B2; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 19:08:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DB5C6BA.5000906@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 12:08:42 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: portable PA for electronic looper References: <1EF9FDF0-5877-4AB0-8C6F-5E2BC9C40F1B@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <1EF9FDF0-5877-4AB0-8C6F-5E2BC9C40F1B@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109162 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 19:08:48 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote: > Personally speaking, I don't care for the sound of the Bose system. Its a big "consumer smile" sound--Lots o low end below 200hz and exaggerated highs above 3K. > But the mid range leaves much to be desired in the way of warmth and direct projection. We used them at NAMM for a couple of years in the Looperlative booth and, frankly, I like the smaller pa Bob brings a lot more. I agree with you that it lacks warmth in the midranges. Definitely NOT worth the hefty price tage, imho. I love my RCF 10" powered monitors for my own gigs. RCF was the Italian company that manufactured Mackie's for a while. I heard that they had an un-amicable split and started competing with them. My brother has the 10" powered Mackies (which I like) but the RCFs actually go down to 40 hz (whereas the Mackies only go down to 50 hz). They are more expensive than the Mackies because of the dollars weakness against the Euro but I'm glad I sprung for them. Very very light weight and easier to dolly than the Mackies whose round fronts look nice but don't go well on a dolly, imho. I then use either a Mackie 1402 or a Mackie 1604 as a mixer unless I'm running my wonderful, portable D-Tar preamplifier for quick set up, throw on an airplane type gigs. If I have enough time to set up and it's a relatively low volume situation, I purchased a very inexpensive subwoofer system designed for home stereos. You can pick them up for between $100 and $200 at places like Fry's. They are not intended for professional sound reinforcement situations but I find them to be perfect in a small coffee shop or museum gallery setup. They just fill in the sub sounds instead of hitting you over the head with subsonic frequencies like so many pro P.A.s these days. Personally, I've come to almost hate subwoofers because they are so overused and abused. Subs that are too loud are to Pro Audio what that Warbling Auto Tune sound is to modern pop and hip hop. lol, rant over. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 19:10:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4AC1E1834BD; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 19:10:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Qt/txL4IuJ+V+Q2Pkd9d550zQuELIi5tMGySDYqdXG8=; b=I1fECxyPlhhshxSojSuHrpR+nJSTWG9l44NRvlbkjLdGKFE46N4lfIpZECzpDJL+WJ Ugetk29K3JueEbKreW9Hd/OWr4iIDUh2lJdMFSRQIT0I5tEC488BE9LvqRi7z1vPJYsh 0lAkSVAzOKzY5SZKjqfjb38FyG0qLjZ602jkw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Z1KQeiQBZKm2H1wZdqgvZt7aCZZbCJwsBbl1KoYIOZ/xlWdkisDNpxjxOqBTC9t/Ax g6C5tNMeivIyEsSm4NyvUUP7g2o4m5w8sK/7bRCvjsUStjSDUV6YjRoSIOUDes6yY2b2 BTtHyU76Zz4z9/CeoTlfRw7LKaxxUAgzKwCSs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7865c358.17f862.12f8e0bfe71.Webtop.43@charter.net> References: <7865c358.17f862.12f8e0bfe71.Webtop.43@charter.net> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 21:10:22 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: portable PA for electronic looper From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175771dc9b61db04a1c2f58f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109163 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 19:10:37 +0000 (UTC) --0015175771dc9b61db04a1c2f58f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i tested the roland cm-30 against these (Mackie SRM150s), and the cube were the winners, for me. rolands are 6.5', so more low end. 2011/4/25 tEd =AE kiLLiAn > Michael, > > I have used a pair of alone for small art gallery or living room gigs wi= th > no problem at all. > > In situations where a full-size PA would've been total overkill they > perform just fine - and they really weren't particularly made for it. > > True, they won't give you that huge, butt-shaking, "tectonic" low end. > > But they are plenty loud in a small(ish) venue. > > Think of them as 150 watt mini Mackies with high-quality 5.5" speakers > housed in something the size of a lunchbox and that fits atop a mic stand > (if you want to put them up where people can hear 'em). > > I must mention one caveat though, as long as you are getting your tonal > "warmth" via other means (plug-ins or hardware devices) you are okay, but= I > did find these things slightly cold (too clean and flat) for straight, pl= ug > 'n' play guitar amplification. > > Also, brand new they are too expensive (to my thinking) but I picked both > of mine up used (but mint) on Ebay for about half of what they go for new= . > > I asked around for all sorts of advice before I bought them and a number = of > people tried to talk me out of spending my money on them. > > However, they've worked out quite well (I think). > > If I had to do it again, I'd buy 'em all over again. > > A big plus is onboard EQ and 3-channel mixing too. > > Cheers, > > Ted > > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > > just wondering what you use if you want to play in a club or gallery whi= ch >> doesn't have a PA and you have to bring your own, and you don't want to >> use >> guitar combos but something clean - the stuff that I do does come from t= he >> guitar but goes through laptop and plugins and has more the spectrum of >> keyboard music, with possibly lots of dynamics and bass. l >> > > --=20 .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com --0015175771dc9b61db04a1c2f58f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i tested the roland cm-30 against these (Mackie SRM150s), and the cube were= the winners, for me. rolands are 6.5', so more low end.

2011/4/25 tEd =AE kiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net>
Michael,

I have used a pair of=A0 alone for small art gallery or living room gigs wi= th no problem at all.

In situations where a full-size PA would've been total overkill they pe= rform just fine - and they really weren't particularly made for it.

True, they won't give you that huge, butt-shaking, "tectonic"= low end.

But they are plenty loud in a small(ish) venue.

Think of them as 150 watt mini Mackies with high-quality 5.5" speakers= housed in something the size of a lunchbox and that fits atop a mic stand = (if you want to put them up where people can hear 'em).

I must mention one caveat though, as long as you are getting your tonal &qu= ot;warmth" via other means (plug-ins or hardware devices) you are okay= , but I did find these things slightly cold (too clean and flat) for straig= ht, plug 'n' play guitar amplification.

Also, brand new they are too expensive (to my thinking) but I picked both o= f mine up used (but mint) on Ebay for about half of what they go for new.
I asked around for all sorts of advice before I bought them and a number of= people tried to talk me out of spending my money on them.

However, they've worked out quite well (I think).

If I had to do it again, I'd buy 'em all over again.

A big plus is onboard EQ and 3-channel mixing too.

Cheers,

Ted


On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Michael Peters wrote:

just wondering what you use if you want to play in a club or gallery which<= br> doesn't have a PA and you have to bring your own, and you don't wan= t to use
guitar combos but something clean - the stuff that I do does come from the<= br> guitar but goes through laptop and plugins and has more the spectrum of
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keyboard music, with possibly lots of dynamics and bass. =A0l




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--0015175771dc9b61db04a1c2f58f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 19:12:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8384A1834C7; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 19:12:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5528F2AA-7273-4799-A946-7F2F4DF12566@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: portable PA for electronic looper Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 12:11:58 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109164 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 19:12:05 +0000 (UTC) you would need a pair of these for stereo , the Roland BA330 that is , but if battery option is not needed My mackie Srm350's are decent sounding, not to heavy. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 19:52:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54A30183486; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 19:52:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=3Ic6KV6+/4sxUZcSbYP619FanFHkJbCJWGbqzo1DHpQ=; b=UA6895bScsX0GiTbvXKUpibgVAvjRzIT++N+0F9KywjXIsHrUxqXTOk5BPr/28i3a2 enIGgutn7dEeK1uwwlEUIU6lMqzjazxtfsvhpKt7MpUk5jJ1EyOjsRHmZUDgizFD+0Rv lH+yF9M5eujS9Hlt5XegdDqAQRK0W9XpP4giw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=h7yPfuHX5rLLevO+tft0sMJ4X6qf+gb4oHYn+hFY9OjSTl0DvJzdkpKu4m/vRRGgH0 /IxgZ7j4b4eXY6jVjl8ROL2yWdg6t950ezR3KyH5UPMXvN0Hnz9LLa7Mn92ds6QkfAsR LAV/TrBez4Y7sAD9WG1jSD6h/O6jSNyucjJhc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:52:34 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: BOSS RC-50 users on the list From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015177415a27ccf6004a1c38c9c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109165 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 19:52:36 +0000 (UTC) --0015177415a27ccf6004a1c38c9c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Were there RC-50 users on the list? I'm finally getting rid of my JamMan Stereo, the software with you can use the machine's internal memory is total piece of shit. Cant import audios, exporting crashes the program etc. Firmware updated, Silverlight updated (cant believe they build a program upon that) and the software itself updated. All final versions, OS I'm using (XP) SP3, should be compatible with the software. Digitech user forums dont even bother to answer my questions / complaints. So, software still crashing and not working. Luckily the store I bought it, gives me full refund. No re-sellers for Boomerang III which I would acquire if it was available here in Finland. So, I've lost count IF there were RC-50 users in the list, would be nice to chat with you, cause I'm going for that now. Maybe ending in same mess I was with Digitech, but I doubt... :-D -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com --0015177415a27ccf6004a1c38c9c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Were there RC-50 users on the list?

I'm finally getting rid of m= y JamMan Stereo, the software with you can use the machine's internal m= emory is total piece of shit.
Cant import audios, exporting crashes the = program etc. Firmware updated, Silverlight updated (cant believe they build= a program upon that) and the software itself updated.
All final versions, OS I'm using (XP) SP3, should be compatible with th= e software. Digitech user forums dont even bother to answer my questions / = complaints.

So, software still crashing and not working. Luckily the= store I bought it, gives me full refund.

No re-sellers for Boomerang III which I would acquire if it was availab= le here in Finland.
So, I've lost count IF there were RC-50 users in= the list, would be nice to chat with you, cause I'm going for that now= .
Maybe ending in same mess I was with Digitech, but I doubt... :-D

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Petri Lahtinen

http://www.petrilahtinen.com

--0015177415a27ccf6004a1c38c9c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 19:52:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C15318349D; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 19:52:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_4e137394-feab-4daf-ae6d-71d9f5a40040_" X-Originating-IP: [81.132.96.5] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: OT: gareths mutant doubleneck guitar Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 19:52:41 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4DB33653.4030902@cruzio.com> References: <895ACA52-8AC5-4E8C-B5B0-3FDA8F308DFB@baymoon.com>,<4DB33653.4030902@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Apr 2011 19:52:41.0944 (UTC) FILETIME=[568A5580:01CC0382] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109166 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 19:52:43 +0000 (UTC) --_4e137394-feab-4daf-ae6d-71d9f5a40040_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How could I resist ? I will attempt a re-kludge this week... Gareth=2C Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ Date: Sat=2C 23 Apr 2011 13:28:03 -0700 From: looppool@cruzio.com To: billwalker@baymoon.com CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: gareths mutant doubleneck guitar =20 =20 =20 =20 On 7/22/64 11:59 AM=2C William Walker wrote: Duuuude make a movie!!!=2C but seriously I really liked that thing you did and your expertly customized guitar=2C do you rememebr who the lap steel portion was made by? Good luck on the masters and the launch and perhaps the next time you come to california=2C I'll set you up in my posh film studio and take movies myself. By that time I might even have a 2 camera shoot=2C a gaffer and a foley artist=2C perhaps Rick might provide the foley? =20 Bill =20 =20 =20 Yes=2C Gareth=2C Bill is correct: I'm already practicing punchin= g cabbages to simulate body blows to prepare for my=20 foley work making this movie. I also have a staple gun handy if you want to recreate your kluged slide/guitar double neck=20 monstrosity of past years. =20 =20 Seriously=2C I loved that guitar and thought it so clever and creative of you to have put it together! I'll never forget=20 that first time we played in that bar in Swansea so many years ago. =20 I vote for an operation to reconnect just for performance visual sensibilities alone! LOL! =20 hippy hugs from Nor Cal=2C bro! =20 rick=20 =20 = --_4e137394-feab-4daf-ae6d-71d9f5a40040_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How could I resist ?
I will attempt a re-kludge this week...


= Gareth=2C Sentientfx - =3B Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/


Date: Sat=2C 23 Apr 2011 13:28:03 -0700
From: = looppool@cruzio.com
To: billwalker@baymoon.com
CC: Loopers-Delight@lo= opers-delight.com
Subject: Re: OT: gareths mutant doubleneck guitar
<= br> =20 =20 =20 =20 On 7/22/64 11:59 AM=2C William Walker wrote:
Duuuude make a movie!!!=2C but seriously I really liked that thing you did and your expertly customized guitar=2C do you rememebr who the lap steel portion was made by? Good luck on the masters and the launch and perhaps the next time you come to california=2C I'll set you up in my posh film studio and take movies myself. =3B By that time I might even have a 2 camera shoot=2C a = gaffer and a foley artist=2C perhaps Rick might provide the foley?
 =3BBill

Yes=2C =3B Gareth=2C =3B =3B Bill is correct: =3B = =3B =3B =3B I'm already practicing punching cabbages to simulate body blows to prepare for my
foley work making this movie. =3B =3B =3B I also have a sta= ple gun handy if you want to recreate your kluged slide/guitar double neck
monstrosity of past years. =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B = =3B =3B

Seriously=2C =3B =3B I loved that guitar and thought it so clev= er and creative of you to have put it together! =3B I'll never forget
that first time we played in that bar in Swansea so many years ago.

I vote for an operation to reconnect just for performance visual sensibilities alone! =3B =3B LOL!

hippy hugs from Nor Cal=2C =3B bro!

rick

= --_4e137394-feab-4daf-ae6d-71d9f5a40040_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 20:29:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B1761834A8; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:29:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=x2g0swUQzPABjDzY65WZawf6qa8PHfOHTB6YqwMtSNQ=; b=IaETIATtJMJH1srzDTlxYeg1xYo2iEnXswoaCW+aef5SkinQfFN+reN2R91UanBR35 5CseQptGFbaax8d0/CG+S9/Nij8YWH4+V+AK8Ukjx4ZkONrHa6Kq7VmNHuBV9k8ZpDmj Ic6bjx3KAiRnzG1Q8VAQhVfIzA31gUWhM4wms= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=j9xDRdtNAB/JSWOsTpcK3QfDBl6tjme2Fo53zrleJ4Z2cfcdQ0CG8HqN/ua/6/OJn1 F85UJzlMw9IiCttrY7YiZiwHXOyH2BjwJnzs8nkuj/tdYhqXNC02SknpgHCxFzmYf4Pf CJPwRY613diOat3Dcz0elGgkNWNcRZLY08Ax8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 15:29:07 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Wtb: black edp From: marcus kirby To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd3564832f57004a1c40fd4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109167 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:29:08 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd3564832f57004a1c40fd4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm looking for a black edp in good condition. I'll take a white one if need be, but it needs to have loop4 software. Email me with price/location. U.s. only. --000e0cd3564832f57004a1c40fd4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

I'm looking for a black edp in good condition. I'll take a white one if need be, but it needs to have loop4 software. Email me with price/location. U.s. only.

--000e0cd3564832f57004a1c40fd4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 20:32:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 86D171834B2; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:32:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=jREz+yVbFJmdn7oBC1hEYdlkTtKyanByQns3slU/b2Q=; b=E8HQ6PjLgPbEqiN2FDiHgvQgC9OSDpfMKusLQryLNkbH8a6+YmW7hiW/JrpqCQYJGq DGu6Q4wg8zDeWqK/DqbTFJ+jLnq8nSQ/jJfSrTx2i05Mpqly2/bVYZYrMzpduZ1iKH/S eURGfFnW8EkgkbwUNJUOAuYB5JTBsZt+FAObU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Q7IKYq5qTZ2zsaO/sWwgH7EFiIO/lvG0n01/IJ9z2trj72P0fM+RuipGB5I+5gLu/R 0qWpUZsPOwl30kWVAWeMQTbw51sJBcgH48HjwqbOhZgalVLZtZHSQl4j+4cH46srWaUH jcqSR65e3iQ2yXvNmYGMrB2j2F68kZMeOuQBo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 15:32:43 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Two edps or a different looper? From: marcus kirby To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd48ba214fedc04a1c41cb0 Resent-Message-ID: <0yfLzD.A.I0F.spdtNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109168 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:32:44 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd48ba214fedc04a1c41cb0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've owned an edp for four years now, and I'm finally looking to incorporate it into a midi rig. I need stereo looping options, as I'm running mic/guitar/vocals/bass synth through the looper. The first looper would be used for unprocessed, and the second for post-processed loops. Should I go with two edps, or a different looper, or maybe edp and sampler? --000e0cd48ba214fedc04a1c41cb0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

I've owned an edp for four years now, and I'm finally looking to incorporate it into a midi rig.

I need stereo looping options, as I'm running mic/guitar/vocals/bass synth through the looper. The first looper would be used for unprocessed, and the second for post-processed loops.

Should I go with two edps, or a different looper, or maybe edp and sampler?

--000e0cd48ba214fedc04a1c41cb0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 20:32:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 87EB61834C2; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:32:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=sR5mK1vh2UtcRGTT4bdifq8NwqyJAro9p7273Go5fz0=; b=G7H7eR1Of4TUuSHGnyg/r+jF4yIkBqixev92FFTYLIVNz76YMsPBOOWgptljXAGY2r FJZIWTLYqXMYvJqaDB5i3t9554BjcWHQIYN/mUwiC/Ov4FeQefNw8e/FDRe7W+gRDk5w SO49K9YVYZ2kwlLtNAhSYpVrt6TeTUyF8ogxM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=EN6IS/wcE+4gDVRqAf2U/OrSTDgEH6Sun3na4fMInItIE3m7b6xBbamSJjvmfj6few W8AKPqPGqDKclHK5XapPQxO9HPa0sI06bwYpu5AOrYYWOozYVK8myVGUXxmZB5FMRPkY P5Qhwm8HgBaLikWLqLBJQyB2pJO/tI5HLYVuY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 13:32:47 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: BOSS RC-50 users on the list From: Eric DeAratanha To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec548a725492f9404a1c41c44 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109169 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:32:48 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec548a725492f9404a1c41c44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I was/am an rc-50 user for many years and have a deep understanding of all its amazing (and simple) functions. I'd be happy to share any knowledge i have with you. :) I sold it when i got my LP1, but still love and admire that device. -Eric Mogli On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Petri Lahtinen < kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote: > Were there RC-50 users on the list? > > I'm finally getting rid of my JamMan Stereo, the software with you can use > the machine's internal memory is total piece of shit. > Cant import audios, exporting crashes the program etc. Firmware updated, > Silverlight updated (cant believe they build a program upon that) and the > software itself updated. > All final versions, OS I'm using (XP) SP3, should be compatible with the > software. Digitech user forums dont even bother to answer my questions / > complaints. > > So, software still crashing and not working. Luckily the store I bought it, > gives me full refund. > > No re-sellers for Boomerang III which I would acquire if it was available > here in Finland. > So, I've lost count IF there were RC-50 users in the list, would be nice to > chat with you, cause I'm going for that now. > Maybe ending in same mess I was with Digitech, but I doubt... :-D > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > > --bcaec548a725492f9404a1c41c44 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was/am an rc-50 user for many years and have a deep understanding of all = its amazing (and simple) functions. I'd be happy to share any knowledge= i have with you. :) I sold it when i got my LP1, but still love and admire= that device.

-Eric Mogli



On Mon, Apr 25, 2= 011 at 12:52 PM, Petri Lahtinen <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:=
Were there RC-50 = users on the list?

I'm finally getting rid of my JamMan Stereo, = the software with you can use the machine's internal memory is total pi= ece of shit.
Cant import audios, exporting crashes the program etc. Firmware updated, Si= lverlight updated (cant believe they build a program upon that) and the sof= tware itself updated.
All final versions, OS I'm using (XP) SP3, should be compatible with th= e software. Digitech user forums dont even bother to answer my questions / = complaints.

So, software still crashing and not working. Luckily the= store I bought it, gives me full refund.

No re-sellers for Boomerang III which I would acquire if it was availab= le here in Finland.
So, I've lost count IF there were RC-50 users in= the list, would be nice to chat with you, cause I'm going for that now= .
Maybe ending in same mess I was with Digitech, but I doubt... :-D

--
Petri Lahtinen

http://www.petrilahtine= n.com


--bcaec548a725492f9404a1c41c44-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 20:50:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDBB01834C9; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:50:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=8CvIY9MW+2+J6dQuEuimSaX/bmw8/PSUK05YWFbNwek=; b=sd02GxzqqM4yI3L8JYikFxI4/3EPEovTHDtVtf8FZqqfnlD7DOeIIIGMV2ngbCQjA9 SN89H8wiGl75SWTjcAhgd2RIGVLSak9JLfn/l+8SQ4A1yzC76LIaLx3kbGd5jNHjLL+b aBVrRQ44vkUd5MayFjq7e26nAylTlskJv4Qa8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=g4EiNms0z2EEyxo/UfRMN44g30qehn8e6oIO/HtXUoBPpw+31KXSBNfK1MmnYbtTOC dGfMONhjL2tHH0tpsm19TBP5QpA5p+UHbkxJwUeF2FE8ZbodxH9LSMAmCCFVE7yNZJQY w2OVGPNnt7sIZPPrUS0lr11nm1HSQI9v48P08= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 13:50:13 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Two edps or a different looper? From: Eric DeAratanha To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec501666fa8532804a1c45a2a Resent-Message-ID: <-HUl7C.A.VQG.G6dtNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109170 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:50:14 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec501666fa8532804a1c45a2a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey Marcus, The Looperlative LP1 allows for all of that goodness. :) In terms of hardware looping, this unit is probably the most versatile and capable looper available on the market today. You can use the aux outs to send out loops for post processing and bounce them to new tracks. There are 8 stereo tracks (even though you can only safely and stably use 6 or 7). Its really incredible how elastic this unit is for any sort of music performance project you can imagine. Also, its constantly evolving with Bob's dedicated work on new software... So really, the possibilities are virtually endless (thanks to Bob's hard work and endless dedication) because any imagined feature can technically be programmed for implementation in future software updates. I've never really used EDP for performance but my LP1 has changed my life and the way I preform at my shows. Well, thats my two cents. LP1 = magic. -Eric On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 1:32 PM, marcus kirby wrote: > I've owned an edp for four years now, and I'm finally looking to > incorporate it into a midi rig. > > I need stereo looping options, as I'm running mic/guitar/vocals/bass synth > through the looper. The first looper would be used for unprocessed, and the > second for post-processed loops. > > Should I go with two edps, or a different looper, or maybe edp and sampler? > --bcaec501666fa8532804a1c45a2a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Marcus,
The Looperlative LP1 allows for all of that goodness. :) In = terms of hardware looping, this unit is probably the most versatile and cap= able looper available on the market today. You can use the aux outs to send= out loops for post processing and bounce them to new tracks. There are 8 s= tereo tracks (even though you can only safely and stably use 6 or 7). Its r= eally incredible how elastic this unit is for any sort of music performance= project you can imagine. Also, its constantly evolving with Bob's dedi= cated work on new software... So really, the possibilities are virtually en= dless (thanks to Bob's hard work and endless dedication) because any im= agined feature can technically be programmed for implementation in future s= oftware updates.

I've never really used EDP for performance but my LP1 has changed m= y life and the way I preform at my shows.

Well, thats my two cents. = LP1 =3D magic.

-Eric

On Mon, Apr 2= 5, 2011 at 1:32 PM, marcus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote:

I've owned= an edp for four years now, and I'm finally looking to incorporate it i= nto a midi rig.

I need stereo looping options, as I'm running mic/guitar/vocals/bass= synth through the looper. The first looper would be used for unprocessed, = and the second for post-processed loops.

Should I go with two edps, or a different looper, or maybe edp and sampl= er?


--bcaec501666fa8532804a1c45a2a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 21:35:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 08CF41834A7; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 21:35:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zSjlZWfChwiP/I3GSrvRibbmnuxnAuUgv6PZUduM970=; b=Er3Swvcbd7In5EZKm9cGKWsltrR3Kks2hwlOf3tbud1Epvo09vzrYWkE4+8LHAfbdm cXL/Qs30RkBVfsVZQaXbj4u5T+J/xhXvxZxwaq8rXgpz37arXkINVwrmJrFISq3J7sMn Dc+lvHqe6n8xhY/qbiFPfALggK9KOEGV0F07Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=J4GMcp6kugLUjyatwOD72l2lmHuot6btrCdGZmTna4/Vzvw+ftlOtL/yHovDy/HG37 UMP5AuPKb681v2dMlNnI8/Z/zVXb89x4h/wlY7WPX8ndQMATGGdWyXgfC/2aodcxzGM2 922tolit03/ZGCQNbzHvPDBUf8kP6TxmJw6Ik= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 16:35:21 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Two edps or a different looper? From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd608d40ca29504a1c4fc0c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109171 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 21:35:22 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd608d40ca29504a1c4fc0c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yeah, I think I just realized that the lp1 is what I need. Now I need to find a used one! On Apr 25, 2011 3:50 PM, "Eric DeAratanha" wrote: > Hey Marcus, > The Looperlative LP1 allows for all of that goodness. :) In terms of > hardware looping, this unit is probably the most versatile and capable > looper available on the market today. You can use the aux outs to send out > loops for post processing and bounce them to new tracks. There are 8 stereo > tracks (even though you can only safely and stably use 6 or 7). Its really > incredible how elastic this unit is for any sort of music performance > project you can imagine. Also, its constantly evolving with Bob's dedicated > work on new software... So really, the possibilities are virtually endless > (thanks to Bob's hard work and endless dedication) because any imagined > feature can technically be programmed for implementation in future software > updates. > > I've never really used EDP for performance but my LP1 has changed my life > and the way I preform at my shows. > > Well, thats my two cents. LP1 = magic. > > -Eric > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 1:32 PM, marcus kirby wrote: > >> I've owned an edp for four years now, and I'm finally looking to >> incorporate it into a midi rig. >> >> I need stereo looping options, as I'm running mic/guitar/vocals/bass synth >> through the looper. The first looper would be used for unprocessed, and the >> second for post-processed loops. >> >> Should I go with two edps, or a different looper, or maybe edp and sampler? >> --000e0cd608d40ca29504a1c4fc0c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yeah, I think I just realized that the lp1 is what I need. Now I need to= find a used one!

On Apr 25, 2011 3:50 PM, "Eric DeAratanha&q= uot; <dearatanha@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
> Hey Marcus,
> The Looperlative= LP1 allows for all of that goodness. :) In terms of
> hardware looping, this unit is probably the most versatile and capable=
> looper available on the market today. You can use the aux outs to = send out
> loops for post processing and bounce them to new tracks. T= here are 8 stereo
> tracks (even though you can only safely and stably use 6 or 7). Its re= ally
> incredible how elastic this unit is for any sort of music perf= ormance
> project you can imagine. Also, its constantly evolving with= Bob's dedicated
> work on new software... So really, the possibilities are virtually end= less
> (thanks to Bob's hard work and endless dedication) because= any imagined
> feature can technically be programmed for implementat= ion in future software
> updates.
>
> I've never really used EDP for performan= ce but my LP1 has changed my life
> and the way I preform at my shows= .
>
> Well, thats my two cents. LP1 =3D magic.
>
>= ; -Eric
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 1:32 PM, marcus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote:
> =
>> I've owned an edp for four years now, and I'm finally = looking to
>> incorporate it into a midi rig.
>>
>> I need ste= reo looping options, as I'm running mic/guitar/vocals/bass synth
>= ;> through the looper. The first looper would be used for unprocessed, a= nd the
>> second for post-processed loops.
>>
>> Should I = go with two edps, or a different looper, or maybe edp and sampler?
>&= gt;
--000e0cd608d40ca29504a1c4fc0c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 21:36:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40CE71834B7; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 21:36:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4EdT+9raQcmzO+NSg+4HS9+pggvhKzom7GKXZrxkxmY=; b=xqnOzMY4lCIE9WJDLV+me2sgbj9yd69l8dkMDLADnpkRlqHK+kSbU+igWGii/vJaqW +yMcNhS6ItMDGM1kMvdZCBv8FGM7UUHUNXYVuWHTqqAOt+AMZvfkvK8tZ2dT+K+kDWlz HIf3/J9q1DGssj163aIbZBHQ5GsJks4oBy0eM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=BLSt4wZTdv+54JPECUjjNRq7i9MN5aCs6wL+LbP6e7sJLJ/rsrhQ+UKLSvJ4pKT10o o479F9F7/D5F6tRZvB6+zcjdCf6UwKTgRHr9MkWimdw5UtIiqD4NNOWS5P8S4SYItb+g DwjPBQCbzhZISg47e7kiGVGEqSh4WoCFQrfyk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 16:36:03 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Two edps or a different looper? From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd48ba295900004a1c4fe83 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109172 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 21:36:04 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd48ba295900004a1c4fe83 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Also, how is the midi sync on the lp1? I will either use a drum machine or pc in ableton to control all of the loops. On Apr 25, 2011 3:50 PM, "Eric DeAratanha" wrote: > Hey Marcus, > The Looperlative LP1 allows for all of that goodness. :) In terms of > hardware looping, this unit is probably the most versatile and capable > looper available on the market today. You can use the aux outs to send out > loops for post processing and bounce them to new tracks. There are 8 stereo > tracks (even though you can only safely and stably use 6 or 7). Its really > incredible how elastic this unit is for any sort of music performance > project you can imagine. Also, its constantly evolving with Bob's dedicated > work on new software... So really, the possibilities are virtually endless > (thanks to Bob's hard work and endless dedication) because any imagined > feature can technically be programmed for implementation in future software > updates. > > I've never really used EDP for performance but my LP1 has changed my life > and the way I preform at my shows. > > Well, thats my two cents. LP1 = magic. > > -Eric > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 1:32 PM, marcus kirby wrote: > >> I've owned an edp for four years now, and I'm finally looking to >> incorporate it into a midi rig. >> >> I need stereo looping options, as I'm running mic/guitar/vocals/bass synth >> through the looper. The first looper would be used for unprocessed, and the >> second for post-processed loops. >> >> Should I go with two edps, or a different looper, or maybe edp and sampler? >> --000e0cd48ba295900004a1c4fe83 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Also, how is the midi sync on the lp1? I will either use a drum machine = or pc in ableton to control all of the loops.

On Apr 25, 2011 3:50 PM, "Eric DeAratanha&q= uot; <dearatanha@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
> Hey Marcus,
> The Looperlative= LP1 allows for all of that goodness. :) In terms of
> hardware looping, this unit is probably the most versatile and capable=
> looper available on the market today. You can use the aux outs to = send out
> loops for post processing and bounce them to new tracks. T= here are 8 stereo
> tracks (even though you can only safely and stably use 6 or 7). Its re= ally
> incredible how elastic this unit is for any sort of music perf= ormance
> project you can imagine. Also, its constantly evolving with= Bob's dedicated
> work on new software... So really, the possibilities are virtually end= less
> (thanks to Bob's hard work and endless dedication) because= any imagined
> feature can technically be programmed for implementat= ion in future software
> updates.
>
> I've never really used EDP for performan= ce but my LP1 has changed my life
> and the way I preform at my shows= .
>
> Well, thats my two cents. LP1 =3D magic.
>
>= ; -Eric
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 1:32 PM, marcus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote:
> =
>> I've owned an edp for four years now, and I'm finally = looking to
>> incorporate it into a midi rig.
>>
>> I need ste= reo looping options, as I'm running mic/guitar/vocals/bass synth
>= ;> through the looper. The first looper would be used for unprocessed, a= nd the
>> second for post-processed loops.
>>
>> Should I = go with two edps, or a different looper, or maybe edp and sampler?
>&= gt;
--000e0cd48ba295900004a1c4fe83-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 21:53:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 351ED1834A3; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 21:53:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Two edps or a different looper? References: From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-363--956376893"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8666F039-DF4C-4D1E-BCDC-A4A69BB460E0@1800dialword.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:52:17 -0400 thread-topic: Two edps or a different looper? thread-index: AcwDkw+i+knQi5VEQSO3TuAVe9GQYg== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8F190) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Apr 2011 21:53:06.0161 (UTC) FILETIME=[28825E10:01CC0393] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109173 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 21:53:07 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-363--956376893 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Eric, have you seen the track seven and eight issue happening on the latest o= s ver 1.38 I think it is? I upgraded a while back and I'm on 1.37 which I need to dump, but I heard on= 1.38 that issue solved. Never was a prob for me when i was way down their i= n 1.2 something land.=20 I have noticed that what it does, it's not the amount on tracks but how comp= licated and large what you've recorded is, because it will crash on a lower t= rack too sometimes, but what happens is, when it gets to overload, you are u= sually punching in and it just gets stuck in record it keeps listening and r= ecording but all other functionality out the window.=20 Still love it though.=20 Andy On Apr 25, 2011, at 4:50 PM, "Eric DeAratanha" wrote:= > Hey Marcus, > The Looperlative LP1 allows for all of that goodness. :) In terms of hardw= are looping, this unit is probably the most versatile and capable looper ava= ilable on the market today. You can use the aux outs to send out loops for p= ost processing and bounce them to new tracks. There are 8 stereo tracks (eve= n though you can only safely and stably use 6 or 7). Its really incredible h= ow elastic this unit is for any sort of music performance project you can im= agine. Also, its constantly evolving with Bob's dedicated work on new softwa= re... So really, the possibilities are virtually endless (thanks to Bob's ha= rd work and endless dedication) because any imagined feature can technically= be programmed for implementation in future software updates.=20 >=20 > I've never really used EDP for performance but my LP1 has changed my life a= nd the way I preform at my shows. >=20 > Well, thats my two cents. LP1 =3D magic. >=20 > -Eric >=20 > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 1:32 PM, marcus kirby wrot= e: > I've owned an edp for four years now, and I'm finally looking to incorpora= te it into a midi rig. >=20 > I need stereo looping options, as I'm running mic/guitar/vocals/bass synth= through the looper. The first looper would be used for unprocessed, and the= second for post-processed loops. >=20 > Should I go with two edps, or a different looper, or maybe edp and sampler= ? >=20 --Apple-Mail-363--956376893 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 PGh0bWw+PGJvZHkgYmdjb2xvcj0iI0ZGRkZGRiI+PGRpdj5FcmljLCBoYXZlIHlvdSBzZWVuIHRo ZSB0cmFjayBzZXZlbiBhbmQgZWlnaHQgaXNzdWUgaGFwcGVuaW5nIG9uIHRoZSBsYXRlc3Qgb3Mg dmVyIDEuMzggSSB0aGluayBpdCBpcz88L2Rpdj48ZGl2Pjxicj48L2Rpdj48ZGl2PkkgdXBncmFk ZWQgYSB3aGlsZSBiYWNrIGFuZCBJJ20gb24gMS4zNyB3aGljaCBJIG5lZWQgdG8gZHVtcCwgYnV0 IEkgaGVhcmQgb24gMS4zOCB0aGF0IGlzc3VlIHNvbHZlZC4gTmV2ZXIgd2FzIGEgcHJvYiBmb3Ig bWUgd2hlbiBpIHdhcyB3YXkgZG93biB0aGVpciBpbiAxLjIgc29tZXRoaW5nIGxhbmQuJm5ic3A7 PC9kaXY+PGRpdj48YnI+PC9kaXY+PGRpdj5JIGhhdmUgbm90aWNlZCB0aGF0IHdoYXQgaXQgZG9l cywgaXQncyBub3QgdGhlIGFtb3VudCBvbiB0cmFja3MgYnV0IGhvdyBjb21wbGljYXRlZCBhbmQg bGFyZ2Ugd2hhdCB5b3UndmUgcmVjb3JkZWQgaXMsIGJlY2F1c2UgaXQgd2lsbCBjcmFzaCBvbiBh IGxvd2VyIHRyYWNrIHRvbyBzb21ldGltZXMsIGJ1dCB3aGF0IGhhcHBlbnMgaXMsIHdoZW4gaXQg Z2V0cyB0byBvdmVybG9hZCwgeW91IGFyZSB1c3VhbGx5IHB1bmNoaW5nIGluIGFuZCBpdCBqdXN0 IGdldHMgc3R1Y2sgaW4gcmVjb3JkIGl0IGtlZXBzIGxpc3RlbmluZyBhbmQgcmVjb3JkaW5nIGJ1 dCBhbGwgb3RoZXIgZnVuY3Rpb25hbGl0eSBvdXQgdGhlIHdpbmRvdy4mbmJzcDs8L2Rpdj48ZGl2 Pjxicj48L2Rpdj48ZGl2PlN0aWxsIGxvdmUgaXQgdGhvdWdoLiZuYnNwOzwvZGl2PjxkaXY+PGJy PjwvZGl2PjxkaXY+QW5keTxicj48YnI+PGRpdj48YnI+PC9kaXY+PC9kaXY+PGRpdj48YnI+T24g QXByIDI1LCAyMDExLCBhdCA0OjUwIFBNLCAiRXJpYyBEZUFyYXRhbmhhIiAmbHQ7PGEgaHJlZj0i bWFpbHRvOmRlYXJhdGFuaGFAZ21haWwuY29tIj5kZWFyYXRhbmhhQGdtYWlsLmNvbTwvYT4mZ3Q7 IHdyb3RlOjxicj48YnI+PC9kaXY+PGRpdj48L2Rpdj48YmxvY2txdW90ZSB0eXBlPSJjaXRlIj48 ZGl2PkhleSBNYXJjdXMsPGJyPlRoZSBMb29wZXJsYXRpdmUgTFAxIGFsbG93cyBmb3IgYWxsIG9m IHRoYXQgZ29vZG5lc3MuIDopIEluIHRlcm1zIG9mIGhhcmR3YXJlIGxvb3BpbmcsIHRoaXMgdW5p dCBpcyBwcm9iYWJseSB0aGUgbW9zdCB2ZXJzYXRpbGUgYW5kIGNhcGFibGUgbG9vcGVyIGF2YWls YWJsZSBvbiB0aGUgbWFya2V0IHRvZGF5LiBZb3UgY2FuIHVzZSB0aGUgYXV4IG91dHMgdG8gc2Vu ZCBvdXQgbG9vcHMgZm9yIHBvc3QgcHJvY2Vzc2luZyBhbmQgYm91bmNlIHRoZW0gdG8gbmV3IHRy YWNrcy4gVGhlcmUgYXJlIDggc3RlcmVvIHRyYWNrcyAoZXZlbiB0aG91Z2ggeW91IGNhbiBvbmx5 IHNhZmVseSBhbmQgc3RhYmx5IHVzZSA2IG9yIDcpLiBJdHMgcmVhbGx5IGluY3JlZGlibGUgaG93 IGVsYXN0aWMgdGhpcyB1bml0IGlzIGZvciBhbnkgc29ydCBvZiBtdXNpYyBwZXJmb3JtYW5jZSBw cm9qZWN0IHlvdSBjYW4gaW1hZ2luZS4gQWxzbywgaXRzIGNvbnN0YW50bHkgZXZvbHZpbmcgd2l0 aCBCb2IncyBkZWRpY2F0ZWQgd29yayBvbiBuZXcgc29mdHdhcmUuLi4gU28gcmVhbGx5LCB0aGUg cG9zc2liaWxpdGllcyBhcmUgdmlydHVhbGx5IGVuZGxlc3MgKHRoYW5rcyB0byBCb2IncyBoYXJk IHdvcmsgYW5kIGVuZGxlc3MgZGVkaWNhdGlvbikgYmVjYXVzZSBhbnkgaW1hZ2luZWQgZmVhdHVy ZSBjYW4gdGVjaG5pY2FsbHkgYmUgcHJvZ3JhbW1lZCBmb3IgaW1wbGVtZW50YXRpb24gaW4gZnV0 dXJlIHNvZnR3YXJlIHVwZGF0ZXMuIDxicj4NCjxicj5JJ3ZlIG5ldmVyIHJlYWxseSB1c2VkIEVE UCBmb3IgcGVyZm9ybWFuY2UgYnV0IG15IExQMSBoYXMgY2hhbmdlZCBteSBsaWZlIGFuZCB0aGUg d2F5IEkgcHJlZm9ybSBhdCBteSBzaG93cy48YnI+PGJyPldlbGwsIHRoYXRzIG15IHR3byBjZW50 cy4gTFAxID0gbWFnaWMuPGJyPjxicj4tRXJpYzxicj48YnI+PGRpdiBjbGFzcz0iZ21haWxfcXVv dGUiPk9uIE1vbiwgQXByIDI1LCAyMDExIGF0IDE6MzIgUE0sIG1hcmN1cyBraXJieSA8c3BhbiBk aXI9Imx0ciI+Jmx0OzxhIGhyZWY9Im1haWx0bzptYXJjdXNsb29wc0BnbWFpbC5jb20iPjxhIGhy ZWY9Im1haWx0bzptYXJjdXNsb29wc0BnbWFpbC5jb20iPm1hcmN1c2xvb3BzQGdtYWlsLmNvbTwv YT48L2E+Jmd0Ozwvc3Bhbj4gd3JvdGU6PGJyPg0KPGJsb2NrcXVvdGUgY2xhc3M9ImdtYWlsX3F1 b3RlIiBzdHlsZT0ibWFyZ2luOiAwcHQgMHB0IDBwdCAwLjhleDsgYm9yZGVyLWxlZnQ6IDFweCBz b2xpZCByZ2IoMjA0LCAyMDQsIDIwNCk7IHBhZGRpbmctbGVmdDogMWV4OyI+PHA+SSd2ZSBvd25l ZCBhbiBlZHAgZm9yIGZvdXIgeWVhcnMgbm93LCBhbmQgSSdtIGZpbmFsbHkgbG9va2luZyB0byBp bmNvcnBvcmF0ZSBpdCBpbnRvIGEgbWlkaSByaWcuPC9wPg0KDQo8cD5JIG5lZWQgc3RlcmVvIGxv b3Bpbmcgb3B0aW9ucywgYXMgSSdtIHJ1bm5pbmcgbWljL2d1aXRhci92b2NhbHMvYmFzcyBzeW50 aCB0aHJvdWdoIHRoZSBsb29wZXIuIFRoZSBmaXJzdCBsb29wZXIgd291bGQgYmUgdXNlZCBmb3Ig dW5wcm9jZXNzZWQsIGFuZCB0aGUgc2Vjb25kIGZvciBwb3N0LXByb2Nlc3NlZCBsb29wcy48L3A+ DQo8cD5TaG91bGQgSSBnbyB3aXRoIHR3byBlZHBzLCBvciBhIGRpZmZlcmVudCBsb29wZXIsIG9y IG1heWJlIGVkcCBhbmQgc2FtcGxlcj88YnI+DQo8L3A+DQo8L2Jsb2NrcXVvdGU+PC9kaXY+PGJy Pg0KPC9kaXY+PC9ibG9ja3F1b3RlPjwvYm9keT48L2h0bWw+ --Apple-Mail-363--956376893-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 22:16:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF1A01834A7; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:16:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=uZjaJ3C5fRSmqqmX6R7yTbNQq06PNacgwQGyDWhzVwA=; b=IzRp0ioUHoEVWU5Hh1Fa61SrV3ZxTO2To6VMIlVAhinqUNqvm4p1VWcEOCCH5wvM3S NICbZHABUeccLnB2bppyMbIXOZ5lwpCWHr8oGojEuIdoz+CLZYgHUO4f+9G7nPow27Q4 Q/eluzim8zOsihizuhMBBVMameKdJLcylfZ84= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bFzAgcNIksEbBWyh8vDh3+a74kiSjuqV/2xh+q0ou88htz/vZMNd51xsmE0kI+LmMP nWgs6lkCOWMlbtI0IYl1Dw/jlLlmegHz4qqAu9hJP+596oSgk7heu5OdWQKqfCDbVJzq IGEWN/UZ+WG0FV7wEE/hGNPrPbpgf4j0nRLSI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 15:16:08 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: BOSS RC-50 users on the list From: Wytold Music To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec548a117f1ad9004a1c58dcc Resent-Message-ID: <8he7r.A.dp.pKftNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109174 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:16:10 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec548a117f1ad9004a1c58dcc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've been working with the rc-50 for a year and a half. Just bought an FCB1010 to switch from the rc-50 to using Ableton Live. It's pretty awesome - I feel overwhelmed with possibilities! :) But yes, the rc-50 is a ton of fun and I'd be happy to chat with you about it. Wytold Lebing www.Wytold.com On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Eric DeAratanha wrote: > I was/am an rc-50 user for many years and have a deep understanding of all > its amazing (and simple) functions. I'd be happy to share any knowledge i > have with you. :) I sold it when i got my LP1, but still love and admire > that device. > > -Eric Mogli > > > > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Petri Lahtinen < > kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Were there RC-50 users on the list? >> >> I'm finally getting rid of my JamMan Stereo, the software with you can use >> the machine's internal memory is total piece of shit. >> Cant import audios, exporting crashes the program etc. Firmware updated, >> Silverlight updated (cant believe they build a program upon that) and the >> software itself updated. >> All final versions, OS I'm using (XP) SP3, should be compatible with the >> software. Digitech user forums dont even bother to answer my questions / >> complaints. >> >> So, software still crashing and not working. Luckily the store I bought >> it, gives me full refund. >> >> No re-sellers for Boomerang III which I would acquire if it was available >> here in Finland. >> So, I've lost count IF there were RC-50 users in the list, would be nice >> to chat with you, cause I'm going for that now. >> Maybe ending in same mess I was with Digitech, but I doubt... :-D >> >> -- >> Petri Lahtinen >> >> http://www.petrilahtinen.com >> >> > --bcaec548a117f1ad9004a1c58dcc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've been working with the rc-50 for a year and a half. =A0Just bought = an FCB1010 to switch from the rc-50 to using Ableton Live. It's pretty = awesome - I feel overwhelmed with possibilities! =A0:)

B= ut yes, the rc-50 is a ton of fun and I'd be happy to chat with you abo= ut it.

Wytold Lebing
www.Wytold.com

On Mon, Apr 25, 201= 1 at 1:32 PM, Eric DeAratanha <dearatanha@gmail.com> wrote:
I was/am an rc-50 user for many years and h= ave a deep understanding of all its amazing (and simple) functions. I'd= be happy to share any knowledge i have with you. :) I sold it when i got m= y LP1, but still love and admire that device.

-Eric Mogli




On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Petri Lahtinen <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
Were there RC-50 users = on the list?

I'm finally getting rid of my JamMan Stereo, the so= ftware with you can use the machine's internal memory is total piece of= shit.
Cant import audios, exporting crashes the program etc. Firmware updated, Si= lverlight updated (cant believe they build a program upon that) and the sof= tware itself updated.
All final versions, OS I'm using (XP) SP3, should be compatible with th= e software. Digitech user forums dont even bother to answer my questions / = complaints.

So, software still crashing and not working. Luckily the= store I bought it, gives me full refund.

No re-sellers for Boomerang III which I would acquire if it was availab= le here in Finland.
So, I've lost count IF there were RC-50 users in= the list, would be nice to chat with you, cause I'm going for that now= .
Maybe ending in same mess I was with Digitech, but I doubt... :-D

--
Petri Lahtinen

http://www.petrilahtine= n.com



--bcaec548a117f1ad9004a1c58dcc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 22:59:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6CE601834A1; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:59:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DB5FCD0.501@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 15:59:28 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric DeAratanha CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: COOL LOOPERLATIVE TRICKS References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109175 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:59:35 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Eric DeAratanha wrote: > Thanks for the tips rick! But what are the LP1 scripts for the > Redhouse Effect you mentioned? Im excited to try them out. > > -Eric Senor DustBunny, Can you weigh in on this? rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 23:01:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A3071834A1; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:01:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Feedback References: <4CC60BAD-211C-4319-A4B1-68963E7C20FD@baymoon.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: thread-topic: Feedback thread-index: AcwDnKgAbKD2n5xnTFO7SeL4Nv915Q== Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 19:00:57 -0400 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8F190) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Apr 2011 23:01:50.0779 (UTC) FILETIME=[C2F920B0:01CC039C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109176 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:01:52 +0000 (UTC) I used to have a five string banjo which I took a strat pickguard and cut it= to fit and glued to the inside of the head, then mounted strat pickups to t= hat, and man that thing would feedback for hours!!! Like on Creedence Born o= n the Bayou you could really get all that goin on.... Andy On Apr 25, 2011, at 8:06 AM, "Per Boysen" wrote: > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Gareth Whittock > wrote: >> I remember reading about Carlos Santana walking round stage during the >> soundcheck and marking the stage with some gaffa tape where he could get >> sustained feedback. >> Don't know if this is apocryphal though. >=20 >=20 > Probably authentic, cause this is the best way you can prepare for > playing with acoustic feedback on stage. And in the studio... well, > actually it works even better in the studio because acoustics won't > change with an entering audience. The acoustic feedback hotspots you > mark up in the room will stay the same during recording. >=20 > Measuring feedback spots on stage and mark them out with tape on the > floor is the safe and scientific method.If you forget to do this > preparation at the sound check you can always try "Plan B", the more > powerful but less reliable method successfully practiced by Hendrix > and Townshend: seeking a close encounter with the speaker cones. This > can turn out expensive though. >=20 > The best guitars I have owned for acoustic feedback have all been old > and built of rather light wood. Like the late fifties SG junior model > (mahogany). If using a hollowbody guitar the feedback process evolves > too fast (for my taste) for musical application. And if using a modern > "long sustain" type of guitar you may have difficulties playing > musically with the acoustic feedback because it evolves too slowly, or > might not occur at all. That's quite funny; the guitars that are less > good for "the never ending Santana tone" is marketed as "having more > sustain". A typical hoax based on measuring guitar tone from materia > and meeters rather than musicianship. Acoustic feedback is a very > organic process. The Sustainiac C clamp on vibrator gadget is close to > the real thing and I think you can learn playing acu feedback quite > well from using it when practicing (a bit more neighbor friendly). >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 23:07:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E81D718349C; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:07:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DB5FEC3.5080906@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 16:07:47 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "luigimeloni74@libero.it" CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: R: portable PA for electronic looper References: <11046191.2726011303755179940.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> In-Reply-To: <11046191.2726011303755179940.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109177 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:07:55 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, luigimeloni74@libero.it wrote: > Maybe in the future I'll complete the system with a > couple of subs, since I've tried the PRX ones with a bigger system (the 635, > 1500 watt three way) and i've been really impressed. > > Luigi Dear Luigi, Due to the large size of the sine waves in subsonic frequencies and the relatively small distance between our ears, human beings actually don't hear low bass in stereo. Even phasing is mostly imperceptible because the waves are so large. Don't be fooled by the companies that try to get you to buy stereo subspeakers, they are just trying to get more money from you. Ever noticed how all surround sound home movie systems only have one sub and several satellite speakers? There's a reason. Just buy one sub for your system and spend the rest of your money on all the other gear that gets touted here Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 23:13:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D11AC1834A1; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:13:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DB6000E.8020806@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 16:13:18 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gareth Whittock CC: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RE: OT: gareths mutant doubleneck guitar References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109178 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:13:26 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > How could I resist ? > I will attempt a re-kludge this week... YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!! rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 23:16:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C9F87183453; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:16:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DB600AF.6050209@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 16:15:59 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: marcus kirby CC: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: Re: Wtb: black edp References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109179 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:16:07 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, marcus kirby wrote: > > I'm looking for a black edp in good condition. I'll take a white one > if need be, but it needs to have loop4 software. Email me with > price/location. U.s. only. > I have a white faced edp with full memory (hardly ever used because it was my backup and I never went the stereo route), Loop IV software installed, a foot controller and even a very expensive custom three person Brother Sync cable that I made for playing with loopers in Europe on my first long tour there. I'm in Santa Cruz, California and I want $500 for the whole kit and kaboodle. yours, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 25 23:35:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88F0B1834A2; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:35:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hVUwudGSdnX0uDKjkRSwK/eA7iCO2CFO2NaE5a1BH/E=; b=vG2E6q77N/+ozYeN0YnRs12s06u3WDd6pgQkkVj+dNLoRYU+cETY3hPTaHyrWxhUzD wVtsrIr8ypPsE9c5XWtcbGOSrqonLhQ0wZI2gyG3ExO1hpzg4+v2Y+Q0pK0XNQUJo/YA K1SYX+XtRyHYNMSErJ/l9cXbTuliHp4d3xTQc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=WaHFmwCmL48gL0jSOVTFQl1sUTcXqICuphtqJUPSIfUz3b47R3/sk+ASDJCSik4LDf 8foCkY7Qu2vQLZQybmpTsvlhgSyqjNMskfHI1YNLJ6fyZmda18GJnuPA775Xuj8KWp7a /T8OdHx6WN1c9SjdX6pX7f6xorCOsYQG2G0Rk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:35:08 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Two edps or a different looper? From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce0ccbc75663304a1c6a82d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109180 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:35:10 +0000 (UTC) --000e0ce0ccbc75663304a1c6a82d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Marcus - are you slaving the edp to a clock source? I have two edps that I slave to a tempo. The second loop I record is always out of sync thus throwing everything else off. Wonder if you've noticed this problem? Adam On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 2:32 PM, marcus kirby wrote: > I've owned an edp for four years now, and I'm finally looking to > incorporate it into a midi rig. > > I need stereo looping options, as I'm running mic/guitar/vocals/bass synth > through the looper. The first looper would be used for unprocessed, and the > second for post-processed loops. > > Should I go with two edps, or a different looper, or maybe edp and sampler? > --000e0ce0ccbc75663304a1c6a82d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Marcus - are you slaving the edp to a clock source? =A0I have two edps that= I slave to a tempo. =A0The second loop I record is always out of sync thus= throwing everything else off. =A0Wonder if you've noticed this problem= ?
Adam

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 2:32 PM, mar= cus kirby <ma= rcusloops@gmail.com> wrote:
> wrote: > > Hey Marcus, > The Looperlative LP1 allows for all of that goodness. :) In terms of > hardware looping, this unit is probably the most versatile and capable > looper available on the market today. You can use the aux outs to send out > loops for post processing and bounce them to new tracks. There are 8 stereo > tracks (even though you can only safely and stably use 6 or 7). Its really > incredible how elastic this unit is for any sort of music performance > project you can imagine. Also, its constantly evolving with Bob's dedicated > work on new software... So really, the possibilities are virtually endless > (thanks to Bob's hard work and endless dedication) because any imagined > feature can technically be programmed for implementation in future software > updates. > > I've never really used EDP for performance but my LP1 has changed my life > and the way I preform at my shows. > > Well, thats my two cents. LP1 = magic. > > -Eric > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 1:32 PM, marcus kirby < > marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I've owned an edp for four years now, and I'm finally looking to >> incorporate it into a midi rig. >> >> I need stereo looping options, as I'm running mic/guitar/vocals/bass synth >> through the looper. The first looper would be used for unprocessed, and the >> second for post-processed loops. >> >> Should I go with two edps, or a different looper, or maybe edp and >> sampler? >> > > --485b3961884420051704a1c73b83 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy,

I just upgraded to 1.39. Havnt really taken it through the rin= ger. The software i used for the longest time was 1.38f whick worked pretty= well at 6 tracks, sometimes 7, never 8. 1.38g worked well with 7 but had o= ther icky bugs. Im excited to test out the new firmware more. except there = is a weird retrigger issue... which is kind of cool if you can learn how th= e bug actually buggs out... it gives you a sample-freeze effect instead of = simply retriggering... you hit retrigger once and it goes into this sample = freeze where it just sounds like an FM organ or something... hit it again a= nd it retriggers back into the sample rate of the loop. Kind of weird, its = creative but unpredictable.

Im sure that bob's genius mind will figure out the issue in due tim= e and it will be able to do 8 tracks flawlessly as designed.

I love = my lp1 always, even with (especially with) the qwirks. :)

-Eric

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Andy Owens = <andy@1800dia= lword.com> wrote:
Eric, have you seen the track seven and eight= issue happening on the latest os ver 1.38 I think it is?

I upgraded a while back and I'm on 1.37 which I need to dump, b= ut I heard on 1.38 that issue solved. Never was a prob for me when i was wa= y down their in 1.2 something land.=A0

I have noticed that what it does, it's not the amou= nt on tracks but how complicated and large what you've recorded is, bec= ause it will crash on a lower track too sometimes, but what happens is, whe= n it gets to overload, you are usually punching in and it just gets stuck i= n record it keeps listening and recording but all other functionality out t= he window.=A0

Still love it though.=A0

Andy


=

On Apr 25, 2011, at 4:50 PM, "Eric DeAratan= ha" <dear= atanha@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey Marcus,
The Loop= erlative LP1 allows for all of that goodness. :) In terms of hardware loopi= ng, this unit is probably the most versatile and capable looper available o= n the market today. You can use the aux outs to send out loops for post pro= cessing and bounce them to new tracks. There are 8 stereo tracks (even thou= gh you can only safely and stably use 6 or 7). Its really incredible how el= astic this unit is for any sort of music performance project you can imagin= e. Also, its constantly evolving with Bob's dedicated work on new softw= are... So really, the possibilities are virtually endless (thanks to Bob= 9;s hard work and endless dedication) because any imagined feature can tech= nically be programmed for implementation in future software updates.

I've never really used EDP for performance but my LP1 has changed m= y life and the way I preform at my shows.

Well, thats my two cents. = LP1 =3D magic.

-Eric

On Mon, Apr 2= 5, 2011 at 1:32 PM, marcus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote:

I've owned= an edp for four years now, and I'm finally looking to incorporate it i= nto a midi rig.

I need stereo looping options, as I'm running mic/guitar/vocals/bass= synth through the looper. The first looper would be used for unprocessed, = and the second for post-processed loops.

Should I go with two edps, or a different looper, or maybe edp and sampl= er?



--485b3961884420051704a1c73b83-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 26 00:21:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B9151834A1; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 00:21:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=aJzeaaFpT22/hGCWo/gPnS+Y3JKd3zl59gwZqWczxS0=; b=BBSYElS1RRIZ6ZskZBa2q3QmFa9rgXwaXq5vFdZicuUvNOEVyt3f7Twh02RM707a0w /QstwjXPFnQWDuq8x7hAM0nnKl34P0Lm3IYCaNQvnCiqDz79YDQ2AD8h989YNq4tPRI/ sL93OpyWCF2rykH0+13+ixujqahG3AVMgRMq4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=DUuEkOwGZjmyHG+zeiSSHHnG2XMWv1uXqJ6RyeNPqqXHY/ijto0RCtzGtPlBSooX6C aBcii4LBtL6of4YQwq188HB5IZPSmFThW2UpUYLhy30B1DDplBRq3620Q2xI/MaY7+R0 UW0yf7Ckpn3ziTLgUNMH5Nrf+uNIj+WuDHzIU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DB60C1F.80503@anotherplanerecords.com> References: <4DB60C1F.80503@anotherplanerecords.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:21:38 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EH 2880 From: Eric DeAratanha To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517592d56c3d90a04a1c74e22 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109183 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 00:21:40 +0000 (UTC) --001517592d56c3d90a04a1c74e22 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey Richard, I have used it deeply for over 2 years now. Incredible looper, super organic feeling to it. No LCD screens or menus or anything... Pretty much feels like an analog mixer. I can pretty much answer any questions you have about the machine. (except midi sync stuff, not too much experience with it.) The best part about this looper is the quality of the pitch/time shifting. You take it down 3 octaves and it sound sooo creamy... no sample rate crunchyness or strange artifacts. Just divine. Especially with metalic sounds like bells, a tiny bell turns out to sound like an EPIC gong. Love that effect. Thats my favorite part about the 2880. Highly recommended loop machine. All 4 tracks are synced up at all times in normal mode with one mix down track. you can put it into a constant tempo mixdown mode (after putting it into stop mode) which allows you to change the pitch/speed of the 4 main tracks while leaving the stereo mixdown track at its original sample rate regardless of the location of the tempo slider... Another interesting feature, especially for percussionists. It allows for some more intricate and complex form compositions even though its a bit tricky sometimes. Great machine though.. -Eric On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Richard Wixner < rwix@anotherplanerecords.com> wrote: > Recently I became aware of the Electro Harmonix 28880 MultiTrack Looper < > http://www.ehx.com/products/2880>. Impressed with all the usable features > put together in user friendly form. Even a well written and easy to > understand manual. Have read the PDF manual and it seems well thought out. > > Anyone out there have any experience with it? > > > --001517592d56c3d90a04a1c74e22 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Richard,
I have used it deeply for over 2 years now. Incredible loop= er, super organic feeling to it. No LCD screens or menus or anything... Pre= tty much feels like an analog mixer. I can pretty much answer any questions= you have about the machine. (except midi sync stuff, not too much experien= ce with it.)

The best part about this looper is the quality of the pitch/time shifti= ng. You take it down 3 octaves and it sound sooo creamy... no sample rate c= runchyness or strange artifacts. Just divine. Especially with metalic sound= s like bells, a tiny bell turns out to sound like an EPIC gong. Love that e= ffect. Thats my favorite part about the 2880.

Highly recommended loop machine. All 4 tracks are synced up at all time= s in normal mode with one mix down track. you can put it into a constant te= mpo mixdown mode (after putting it into stop mode) which allows you to chan= ge the pitch/speed of the 4 main tracks while leaving the stereo mixdown tr= ack at its original sample rate regardless of the location of the tempo sli= der... Another interesting feature, especially for percussionists. It allow= s for some more intricate and complex form compositions even though its a b= it tricky sometimes.

Great machine though..

-Eric

O= n Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Richard Wixner <rwix@anotherplanerecords.com&= gt; wrote:
Recently I became= aware of the Electro Harmonix 28880 MultiTrack Looper <http://www.ehx.com/products/= 2880>. Impressed with all the usable features put together in user f= riendly form. Even a well written and easy to understand manual. Have read = the PDF manual and it seems well thought out.

Anyone out there have any experience with it?



--001517592d56c3d90a04a1c74e22-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 26 00:55:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7286E183486; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 00:55:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=ZtuXOl23UuD1yoJUTgnZ6i6Z5VPlPhPMWCeUNtN8OGA= c=1 sm=0 a=4gPx3pzRpJ4A:10 a=5UBfXvP3Od8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Pq5w6/OiCe8pl5iuHRIo4A==:17 a=zB0WLlRPLxvzKsbqlDsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Pq5w6/OiCe8pl5iuHRIo4A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 66.25.180.248 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: BOSS RC-50 users on the list From: Victor Eijkhout In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 19:55:04 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <0B2giD.A.vDE.pfhtNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109184 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 00:55:06 +0000 (UTC) On Apr 25, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > Were there RC-50 users on the list? Check. Just bought it a month ago so I'm still learning. Fun toy though. Victor. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 26 00:57:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E4491834AB; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 00:57:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=aqMe+0lCtaYvy4h0jyaoPGyq+DPF+P6rPG2xbekoY9Q= c=1 sm=0 a=5UBfXvP3Od8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Pq5w6/OiCe8pl5iuHRIo4A==:17 a=LutfICLGtEusHkaYB7QA:9 a=Oo6xBnk1QUzM4Kh1HyEA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Pq5w6/OiCe8pl5iuHRIo4A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 66.25.180.248 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: EH 2880 From: Victor Eijkhout In-Reply-To: <4DB60C1F.80503@anotherplanerecords.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 19:57:38 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4DB60C1F.80503@anotherplanerecords.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109185 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 00:57:39 +0000 (UTC) On Apr 25, 2011, at 7:04 PM, Richard Wixner wrote: > Anyone out there have any experience with it? After reading though the manuals of that one and the RC-50 I went for = the RC-50. RC-50 has - 3 phrases instead of 4, but - phrases can be independent - has an undo button - does not require buying separate footswitch. =20 Victor. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 26 03:27:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC80018349D; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 03:27:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=4Tjy4GPeeOh5MVo2ehJ7/X7Za5Q31k+WsHiiO5gNh5Q=; b=Lkf0AuDLQC0U6I85K+UoUn4csaNEba0nTHE/+8hhUOmwCXmLXeYVFcfmg1EamBaJe8 e73cUJfnXz320IGbIzhHqhBaFtBSxutNs+6vuruiVYkSwCahsTNK4Z4ad7OhU578PWyp cbEAKm9P3zbXXkEe5ZChyBkktDgjSREORJivg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=iW5za/BWPTse4VusAuGa5OwPpuFjlZUWF837ht35Vx9b65w2Ja+yJu8qRIoBKLhTfh H+V1sCh4cbJTv8b5NnvwduPL3tgNPF7lHFYG+8TZVc83g5IAO3amVXI8tmhD8sL1jARo ytx1fukqPg0iMPekgKqCZaSPgrh1E/2eJlKcc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:27:34 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Eh 2880 - midi sync and sound fidelity From: marcus kirby To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd4cbcaae49a204a1c9e7e3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109186 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 03:27:35 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd4cbcaae49a204a1c9e7e3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've been looking at the 2880 for awhile, but haven't been able to find info about the tightness of midi sync when slaved to a drum machine. Anyone slave sync theirs? How is the tightness, and do midi parameter controls via ableton work well? Also, how is the sound quality. I like that the edp has decent sound quality, and want to maintain fidelity. --000e0cd4cbcaae49a204a1c9e7e3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I've been looking at the 2880 for awhile, but haven't been able = to find info about the tightness of midi sync when slaved to a drum machine= . Anyone slave sync theirs? How is the tightness, and do midi parameter con= trols via ableton work well?

Also, how is the sound quality. I like that the edp has decent sound qua= lity, and want to maintain fidelity.

--000e0cd4cbcaae49a204a1c9e7e3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 26 06:10:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B465918349D; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 06:10:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jC7667MML2pf0hs12FsJO+1YLZoQHpRnhKNffUxh1kg=; b=lGU25OSRq2GlmtfrATBNoPPXxS++wiwctwTUL7i1fwc+xGbK4zMUQJyfDmcoxdmQMy 2cYwy/nDxEC+JBljI8VdkOVSmwwH29/rcynM9/D2i6zUWTMKF4tbnyqR48SMiX8+5qon clZPvVk9LZdL9cfb8m2Hk/KtJUvu8tE07ALWY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=UXpzEE8KrB2zkUJ6BDL0wO09ZS5LvkeoMkKBL+Hbnr729A10azDHqxW49zVYBvdrQC yavgQbeRKIFYrytfrlnrm08h/jOuFaKnYvDeP6hQygNVxYbQTyAUFgNwYUkjWv7rAt0A y17bLSQRAkE2iHwwLaDHNOP3TH9TINFwFCcLk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4DB60C1F.80503@anotherplanerecords.com> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 01:10:51 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EH 2880 From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd70e78a08fe404a1cc2f00 Resent-Message-ID: <7lT2KD.A._jC.sHmtNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109187 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 06:10:52 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd70e78a08fe404a1cc2f00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Can anyone comment on the stability of midi sync? It seems that you can control everything via midi, and that could make an awesome combination with ableton live. How is the sound quality?? On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Victor Eijkhout wrote: > > On Apr 25, 2011, at 7:04 PM, Richard Wixner wrote: > > > Anyone out there have any experience with it? > > After reading though the manuals of that one and the RC-50 I went for the > RC-50. > > RC-50 has > - 3 phrases instead of 4, but > - phrases can be independent > - has an undo button > - does not require buying separate footswitch. > > Victor. > > --000e0cd70e78a08fe404a1cc2f00 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Can anyone comment on the stability of midi sync? It seems that you can control everything via midi, and that could make an awesome combination with ableton live.

How is the sound quality??

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Victor Eijkhout <victor@eijkhout.net> wrote:

On Apr 25, 2011, at 7:04 PM, Richard Wixner wrote:

> Anyone out there have any experience with it?

After reading though the manuals of that one and the RC-50 I went for the RC-50.

RC-50 has
- 3 phrases instead of 4, but
- phrases can be independent
- has an undo button
- does not require buying separate footswitch.

Victor.


--000e0cd70e78a08fe404a1cc2f00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 26 06:27:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3803218349D; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 06:27:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=uV+VNZx+4QE+/0duJUlC2zGgpteFFIZe2QuHVN+ywE4=; b=xFDGX0fqxtajGpzoxVBLnSjPQXa9Wk8KIYVtJ2Tzv/x7PFp1Ocq+E0lkjso2c6hn+5 AnnQF9nA0RHx2NWBlCIZI+QxsAB89tv0XRX0XS1ty/MWpceazm+yPFuD2MM7OtyuvgzQ Tqk3TOTFhHT55Qjoq+JOKd62pLIx2D2HaTkI4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=V3Q1hOJQ/p9ap/OWSuKjimxAx7kst9eIl0oNwM63v+Rc725JaZHk6SZB+gnKzsDP/q 6XFbWbefmoGNXo4nZvkUMKdwGTtBplApNZuIkPwTvwD1YuvBn4GQRhzsYfM4t3x4eMdH eG8S+HRpAdz9LtCbUOkQspHbELSYi+PTsVqRo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:27:24 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Eh 2880 - midi sync and sound fidelity From: Eric DeAratanha To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517592d56d95d7004a1cc6a19 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109188 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 06:27:25 +0000 (UTC) --001517592d56d95d7004a1cc6a19 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 not sure about the midi sync, but i know the audio fidelity is really pristine! On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:27 PM, marcus kirby wrote: > I've been looking at the 2880 for awhile, but haven't been able to find > info about the tightness of midi sync when slaved to a drum machine. Anyone > slave sync theirs? How is the tightness, and do midi parameter controls via > ableton work well? > > Also, how is the sound quality. I like that the edp has decent sound > quality, and want to maintain fidelity. > --001517592d56d95d7004a1cc6a19 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable not sure about the midi sync, but i know the audio fidelity is really prist= ine!

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:27 PM, mar= cus kirby <ma= rcusloops@gmail.com> wrote:

I've been = looking at the 2880 for awhile, but haven't been able to find info abou= t the tightness of midi sync when slaved to a drum machine. Anyone slave sy= nc theirs? How is the tightness, and do midi parameter controls via ableton= work well?

Also, how is the sound quality. I like that the edp has decent sound qua= lity, and want to maintain fidelity.


--001517592d56d95d7004a1cc6a19-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 26 07:18:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D551418349D; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 07:18:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=008dTe9TfW8YlhF4ZxIqrIGUh6jrYwft4wgZMlpyZaU=; b=PRUiA/P1ZAlJma0NRWULR9pm5ZpDkPuDmZ7UFe8FytcXTgGslFRukVFFVs3vstYpMj ntEHD7Zh04nII4W9dOQgfiwnH9zOrZe1GZbnJGjS5tMkuciQh40VyG0MP8gQm3+KfRBw TA345ffybATYeVakkEYY+gvYT3jTzQ5ZKvvO8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=CbrHxOHHJkJSf/NY2FDgrOHCauOIIbFa2n1RaBcUtX7DNCyYHJyuBdKxLK5+AzMc7S AYb/hapU8IGeghTFQxGUKv8q+jicKmDyiP6FMmPLj6hDtFwe+6xS9gn0cxSHg8JQeZ0H YFyJl7GqJejBcpWjj7pwLbKui8YQ7Lzj3dVtg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:18:37 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: sonuus i2m From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175ce0ba00b5a704a1cd22f9 Resent-Message-ID: <-5M5CB.A.5UE.PHntNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109189 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 07:18:39 +0000 (UTC) --0015175ce0ba00b5a704a1cd22f9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 is anybody using this gadget? could i play a mono synth line or trigger some midi event with decent latency figures? http://www.sonuus.com/products_i2m_mp.html -- .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com --0015175ce0ba00b5a704a1cd22f9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 is anybody using this gadget? could i play a mono synth line or trigger some midi event with decent latency figures?

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--0015175ce0ba00b5a704a1cd22f9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 26 07:25:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22C6718349D; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 07:25:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_2857e769-5d9a-49f8-9cce-dab4cafa6831_" X-Originating-IP: [81.132.96.5] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: sonuus i2m Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 07:25:43 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Apr 2011 07:25:43.0570 (UTC) FILETIME=[271EEF20:01CC03E3] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109190 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 07:25:44 +0000 (UTC) --_2857e769-5d9a-49f8-9cce-dab4cafa6831_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I heard from a mate of mine that the latency is pretty high. Haven't got fi= gures though. Gareth=2C Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ Date: Tue=2C 26 Apr 2011 09:18:37 +0200 Subject: sonuus i2m From: raul.bonell@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com is anybody using this gadget? could i play a mono synth line or trigger som= e midi event with decent latency figures? http://www.sonuus.com/products_i2m_mp.html --=20 .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com = --_2857e769-5d9a-49f8-9cce-dab4cafa6831_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I heard from a mate of mine that the latency is pretty high. Haven't got fi= gures though.

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= --_2857e769-5d9a-49f8-9cce-dab4cafa6831_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 26 08:20:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0062F18349C; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 08:20:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lXMygCwxGk2a+/cW5LpQlnvwcH0eifMfAWUKq2wrGqQ=; b=OFCtsqyUtoyhuPSx1X4nwABdiu9NuVWrMEcRlS45TwNubQUbjdXtCkVdOuDVIKDZNq SfpRQSw04bopBxubrdpKs2vzCF8RmmP/+lRr+gbP76WCzOELsDY6fvz4Cl5LxN9nGdT3 L0/z1mZVXat9XnxIogOZUGVFoPIZMfBsQIQPU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=WKwiWTxKRnwgMNS6R6Sc4UBop6dD/1OEuEpDeknBS3dHlf1wlTSXO6CpKe/5+8F0V5 exv6eZuvN7QBApDLvN5498dU1Xo3iHYlfcKhdhUkTOTmn/bgZhIvlBHhZvXSyQJH+Opm vjqvy6JOxayqmf5wJQyWt2oGDHW7tR/iEspfQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 10:20:51 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: sonuus i2m From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109191 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 08:20:52 +0000 (UTC) Another option could be to convert your instruments analog signal to a synth wave form. No extra gear and no extra latency. Does only work for monophonic playing though, no chords allowed (if you don't want glitchy and trashed up tone character). Expert Sleepers' Oomingmac plugin is good at that. For an example of the Oomingmac sound you can listen at the beginning of this video: http://youtu.be/XU652NGy28c Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > is anybody using this gadget? could i play a mono synth line or trigger some > midi event with decent latency figures? > > http://www.sonuus.com/products_i2m_mp.html > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 26 08:26:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FBF4183486; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 08:26:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=yTLUNXABlnNR7+X66tU/j3ZZKflh78oJnw8jgiCAjuU=; b=ZtEBOIj+sypG5RhhTGnQ17GNwT5O8E0h87Qq4+1UEjH4sMueufN48IaZkCT2RONtBI QzBKu36SEwuhr4N6HdGiU//Qx5s9xxbWp5dW0LRqT+UcFFN2chHzQneHlHRNL+y24M0t 7eP7/nMLrvel69bosUpD567/yC6Wchef1kW1s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=X/5+lVO5X3qjwmcCnJhb2Zy6fGIqr8dBlkZHFvqPir54mMc6A+Ohig1+PX85feNuhB Kt2YCRrigV2ldU07j1VF+/6amwtgQyl2rNhJbkTKarZFV9RVptbCT4FoJ4P41aGngJj3 FKNWvvVBYwXDD4CHWXN+2ZT3FAB0wIxi8/Pro= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DB5FEC3.5080906@cruzio.com> References: <11046191.2726011303755179940.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> <4DB5FEC3.5080906@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 10:26:06 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: R: portable PA for electronic looper From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109192 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 08:26:08 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 1:07 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > Just buy one sub for your system and spend the rest of your money on all the > other gear > that gets touted here If needing two subs, for musical reasons, it's ok to stick them away at the same spot rather then setting them up as a "stereo spread". Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 26 08:37:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CFA718349D; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 08:37:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 609336178/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.19.35/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.19.35 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmoCAJuDtk1YbRMj/2dsb2JhbAAMmA7TX4V2BJI9iiM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.64,267,1301871600"; d="scan'208";a="609336178" Message-ID: <4DB6843B.5040400@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:37:15 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: R: portable PA for electronic looper...sub bass References: <11046191.2726011303755179940.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> <4DB5FEC3.5080906@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4DB5FEC3.5080906@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7xRLr.A.UTG.7QotNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109193 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 08:37:15 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, luigimeloni74@libero.it wrote: >> Maybe in the future I'll complete the system with a >> couple of subs, since I've tried the PRX ones with a bigger system >> (the 635, >> 1500 watt three way) and i've been really impressed. >> >> Luigi > Dear Luigi, Due to the large size of the sine waves in subsonic > frequencies and the relatively small > distance between our ears, human beings actually don't hear low bass in > stereo. Even phasing > is mostly imperceptible because the waves are so large. Sure, but that actually refers to the 20Hz-40Hz range. When the term *sub-woofer* was coined, it covered the range *beneath* that of a woofer...the lowest audible octave. These days you need to check the frequency range....almost anything with the name "sub-woofer" is really a woofer. Certainly anything sold for small PA use won't go below 40Hz. (and is more likely to roll off at 50Hz). Sometimes it's not possible to tell where the woofer is, but then it's also true that it can be difficult to locate the source for any frequency if it isn't accompanied by a transient. The cheaper the sub-unit, the slower it will respond (less transient), and so it's going to be harder to hear where it is. When the transient for a bass note comes from a small speaker, and the low frequencies come later from the woofer the Haas effect fools us into locating the sound as if it came from the small speaker. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 26 08:57:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 74F87183453; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 08:57:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2+dJvf7c7D77u0RRHi66aBhBy14Wbdmz61kYwsHYQJg=; b=eXbga+EjG5GhunRdgPhSbvgMLPAt5SRUAPSar+GOkERW83/mwLWubD8n1IYl3lqGT5 To73msvMv73JWY6BzVt7579FLRexzPDxtg52fbfmEvzx5KXAht5pv6gwLhf2o9OGhI2z Nq4InUFmkASuvY0Iu/7hQTzZZ8jUjx9XpsrFM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=vp73tW0nn9fZeO5cTB9Awnc1iGLrzzLKavZco03j9WJwImSiNH99vgYQHhqepfbR3r dKQRSwuE8ydzRWuRB070Wo60hdCdnUaMeXUXYGpRyM9KroZhybXqJG+festbNjP2l3lJ gp1T4cYdKUe7IBwBOctOB4KTVX80iSdf166GI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <42EB451050C24B479337F9FE21426875@mpeserver> References: <42EB451050C24B479337F9FE21426875@mpeserver> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:57:22 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: GKSztEPzYHsUviOJE2v7kEWlSOM Message-ID: Subject: Re: Livelooping Cologne videos From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <9UbTpB.A.TqG.3jotNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109194 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 08:57:28 +0000 (UTC) Hi, the 'official' version of the Darkroom set is now up: http://vimeo.com/22882290 cheers, os. On 16 April 2011 17:51, Michael Peters wrote: > I'm very proud to see Georgina Brett's gorgeous Pythagoras piece online now, > live at the Cologne loopfest 2 weeks ago. > http://vimeo.com/22480428 > > Darkroom had already posted their video a week ago > http://vimeo.com/21942479 > > I'm currently uploading a video of my own set. More videos will follow I'm > sure. > > -Michael > > > -- os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 26 09:02:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1525B18344B; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:02:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 612837750/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.19.35/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.19.35 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmoCAH+Itk1YbRMj/2dsb2JhbAAMmA7TWIV2BJI9iiM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.64,267,1301871600"; d="scan'208";a="612837750" Message-ID: <4DB68A0A.6080901@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 10:02:02 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Looperlative software version stability and Red-House fx References: <8666F039-DF4C-4D1E-BCDC-A4A69BB460E0@1800dialword.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109195 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:02:01 +0000 (UTC) Most stable software version for the Looperlative is v1.34d The other version worth trying is v1.37, which is reasonably stable and has the somewhat confusingly named "mellotron mode". (very lo-fi control of playback rate over an octave of semitones). First sign of instability is a drop out at the beginning of a recording. This can be avoided by setting up blank loops and then overdubbing (easy with the LP1). That's a technique that Bill Walker uses a lot on v1.37 The "Red House" instant stutter effect isn't doable by the LP1 midi-learn system alone. You need to program a midi controller to send a command on release of the switch. Once the midi controller switch is programmed to send a PgCh on press, and one on release you need to. 1) go to the programming menu in the lP1, 2) press *and Hold* the switch 3) program it to StopNow > Rec/Dub > endSequence 4) release switch 5) program it to PlayNow > endSequence I'd advise v1.34d if you wanna do this, as I reckon that smaller loops can add to any tendency to instability. This effect was previously known as SUS Record on the EDP and was quite popular a few years back, but seems to have been out of favour for a while. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 26 11:10:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9D4918349C; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 11:10:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=Mkihu0NO3igdq6z1+o7nqXbVxcqdRyJH/FsTDCl4Wjg=; b=pCJBnWL0egV9fg84PEYTsdZ8eiPf9DWfDUAxXnwApCJRT8Z32RwKuQIIz4i7yE3jVu SfFWLkewErEVyBNU1gHD50RALyIH63onEYgieLEEsb8lsouHZ9KId+YLjGb+3WdmuALN dVQD/ewwTQFp5OmarG9hp5WZQMdST+AhwhNQs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=cJGHXoUUKsftv6japuixnkGzEn+rYaKmSXurkqiIyyVonooUQ57ZMdejrcV8v9+dLs B/tjnjpVLo5zi3o0sbQtwAqP6SNsap/OHAMgWcdSe8XLfLab0yafYdYcwsSw0Ypk44a+ 7x/FPQBsPH/bWmpQsv3Pl/cklB1Bqp2mZXcI4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4DB68A0A.6080901@tiscali.co.uk> References: <8666F039-DF4C-4D1E-BCDC-A4A69BB460E0@1800dialword.com> <4DB68A0A.6080901@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 13:09:57 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9uWJESCSjKNGNyKEdM5hv40YTP4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looperlative software version stability and Red-House fx To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109196 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 11:10:17 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 11:02 AM, andy butler wrote: > This effect was previously known as SUS Record on the EDP > and was quite popular a few years back, but seems > to have been out of favour for a while. I had no idea it was out of favour! What a bummer... maybe it explains the dodgy looks when I use it? Incidentally Andy, brainfreeze right now, but is it possible to do this same effect, but where the SUS (pedal down pedal up) time is quantised at the (ths setting (sub-cycle)? Is it just to have SUS record on, PLUS quantise and 8ths set? Ill have to listen to the Red House track, but I know it from old Eno things from the late 80s--- forget what right now... Mark -- Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 26 13:08:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5CD9218349D; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 13:08:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=RSNppy+9pEcWfvcIm5MatLcFOSwNy8tDT7O9lwULupRjVYrkc4ykn23sGOxsbdOi; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:07:54 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Eh 2880 - midi sync and sound fidelity Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79ef02da2d0f42e25a9b0be4d345f3d156350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109197 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 13:08:29 +0000 (UTC) I 've layered thousands of passes on my 2880 with no fidelity issues whatsoever. I'd say it's excellent. I've only used the MIDI synch a few times but I recall that it worked very well in both as master clock and when slaved to an external clock. >I've been looking at the 2880 for awhile, but haven't been able to >find info about the tightness of midi sync when slaved to a drum >machine. Anyone slave sync theirs? How is the tightness, and do midi >parameter controls via ableton work well? > >Also, how is the sound quality. I like that the edp has decent sound >quality, and want to maintain fidelity. -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 26 13:24:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6409183453; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 13:24:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=W8xod7j3Qy8/+H7DvNfBbokyT61Yv4mG/bIciFJjLS0=; b=LGoitKZ3aoS8WuYr9zaEMz2c7LSqcwykWPCGgt7oSlCxoja2CBcuyMH6DDHEOu6taq ctNH7268l2/JsyrYkn5xST2t8x0S/JSLILhAafnFvb1utxC3ehIQgFLHgKfa9B7ywtrJ EW2Bc9ZRqW6fs7c+TP6xqLWvcURkjvC2nWaC0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=cF3ijDitP+LBZcfEUWB1HZXmZGbulN+ceKBcfsgAyNRM+nUlo2FZOswq/DfPzOGX0C sVUTjvQb9PgdETqWCp2YXairtY6mPimxWD8E7d29wKl2VBQwSbPAO//YBfTavH4WBF8L lnFQ3mg1RVgbkBKiY2fTFKlDloYehQdBHkDaM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 15:24:49 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: sonuus i2m From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163646d9afa98cea04a1d23fcc Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109198 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 13:24:51 +0000 (UTC) --00163646d9afa98cea04a1d23fcc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cool sounds, Per! Certainly, I'll have to check expert sleepers Oomingmac out for synth soloing. Anyhow, the Sonuus had also mono conversion, only. 2011/4/26 Per Boysen > Another option could be to convert your instruments analog signal to a > synth wave form. No extra gear and no extra latency. Does only work > for monophonic playing though, no chords allowed (if you don't want > glitchy and trashed up tone character). Expert Sleepers' Oomingmac > plugin is good at that. For an example of the Oomingmac sound you can > listen at the beginning of this video: > http://youtu.be/XU652NGy28c > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Raul Bonell > wrote: > > is anybody using this gadget? could i play a mono synth line or trigger > some > > midi event with decent latency figures? > > > > http://www.sonuus.com/products_i2m_mp.html > > > > -- .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com --00163646d9afa98cea04a1d23fcc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cool sounds, Per!=A0 Certainly, I'll have to check expert sleepers Oomi= ngmac out for synth soloing. Anyhow, the Sonuus had also mono conversion, o= nly.


2011/4/26 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com= >
Another option could be to convert your ins= truments analog signal to a
synth wave form. No extra gear and no extra latency. Does only work
for monophonic playing though, no chords allowed (if you don't want
glitchy and trashed up tone character). Expert Sleepers' Oomingmac
plugin is good at that. For an example of the Oomingmac sound you can
listen at the beginning of this video:
http://youtu.be/X= U652NGy28c

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub



On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
> is anybody using this gadget? could i play a mono synth line or trigge= r some
> midi event with decent latency figures?
>
> http://www.sonuus.com/products_i2m_mp.html
>




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raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com


--00163646d9afa98cea04a1d23fcc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 26 14:17:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4EA618349D; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 14:17:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=I/CLpeJg2zu6H8vLhnWfUnbtGL/cGirLOF4rfpe/TM8=; b=JQbE37wnzKsE5hw7e53rSOrL6cDlsj8Y0VCYzDsGlhu1FfvtbRCLKTVa8zfmcfgS7I aiVNx5uv89+fbgMOpeCM4Sbh8LWoysT1Xskaspl2Ww/+NpInUGUPjcdtLXzCfNzC4RLs DbPXwMKA/tlECrA/BF7VHjlElVXmkcjwUNdSU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=qbi4e1f7OKc4kxN6z8PDrKnPLuoHv/RPrHgXb1lxtJKS5wFUQshz4CtOT9NAVWfrah 0PftagVbE25ZuX3hiXjfl4fDbsGwU6RJPnVtMKlxD1SuFgUwiRxBqj8HlM7nS4oWQDR2 rpERwRsYzQFeS2iTM7h7gHFBUfNcpMWSI3G8U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 15:17:44 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: sonuus i2m From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6afb2e4d64c04a1d2fc14 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109199 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 14:17:46 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6afb2e4d64c04a1d2fc14 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 if you're interested in polyphonic midi conversion, then the WIDI plugin is excellent. only played around with the demo, but it works very well http://www.widisoft.com/english/mp3-midi-products.html On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > Cool sounds, Per! Certainly, I'll have to check expert sleepers Oomingmac > out for synth soloing. Anyhow, the Sonuus had also mono conversion, only. > > > 2011/4/26 Per Boysen > >> Another option could be to convert your instruments analog signal to a >> synth wave form. No extra gear and no extra latency. Does only work >> for monophonic playing though, no chords allowed (if you don't want >> glitchy and trashed up tone character). Expert Sleepers' Oomingmac >> plugin is good at that. For an example of the Oomingmac sound you can >> listen at the beginning of this video: >> http://youtu.be/XU652NGy28c >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> www.looproom.com internet music hub >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Raul Bonell >> wrote: >> > is anybody using this gadget? could i play a mono synth line or trigger >> some >> > midi event with decent latency figures? >> > >> > http://www.sonuus.com/products_i2m_mp.html >> > >> >> > > > -- > .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. > raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com > > > --000e0cd6afb2e4d64c04a1d2fc14 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable if you're interested in polyphonic midi conversion, then the WIDI plugi= n is excellent. only played around with the demo, but it works very well


On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Ra= ul Bonell <ra= ul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
2011/4/26 Per Boysen <perbo= ysen@gmail.com>
Another option could be to convert your inst= ruments analog signal to a
synth wave form. No extra gear and no extra latency. Does only work
for monophonic playing though, no chords allowed (if you don't want
glitchy and trashed up tone character). Expert Sleepers' Oomingmac
plugin is good at that. For an example of the Oomingmac sound you can
listen at the beginning of this video:
http://youtu.be/X= U652NGy28c

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub



On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
> is anybody using this gadget? could i play a mono synth line or trigge= r some
> midi event with decent latency figures?
>
> http://www.sonuus.com/products_i2m_mp.html
>




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raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com



--000e0cd6afb2e4d64c04a1d2fc14-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 26 14:17:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4EFD81834A7; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 14:17:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0VC7+jjOlkB+iPemTGeqCfTvz0SmoI/ndZUj7vnsNf4=; b=AeKXBV9z6n+kOoRiJuYa6zItNh+bDk96IUeqaUB6wQ/6Cg0YnjUzMnIfA2Dk8ceONW iSeBjTLvJO46ycrtWRpgve9WsMqwe5mvk2xPrnvRjkmGRf7TAwIGrQvDGiceM5S1HdVT 656yphw2Ej48o0/1ugPdb/x1VKq1NUK9w8CZI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GI7GPZdi9OpmqFEYISnsZP8HKIqAj9pa3huCj7ZihblclXl8AkiE8w4oczy73T54H8 MxnoNm0AVrkYzzuj0h7r2r7EKyivQLDN4s+xKUC0zu2HbrYpvjV2UbaIy95xEJzH2syg 2hI34SnQUAtJLzc0G2hUcES+ABAo/uVL4pvFc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 08:17:48 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: sonuus i2m From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109200 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 14:17:49 +0000 (UTC) Ra=FCl, Jonathan Wayne Mills has been using it quite extensively (he has just posted on Facebook about getting an endorsement from SONUUS about two weeks ago) and is using it heavily with synthesizer/controllers, as well as using it with algorithmic genesis. He has found it to be VERY effective and I haven't heard him express any complaints about latency...could just be his setup. He records under the name "Shamaniq" (among others) and those recordings can be found here: http://www.reverbnation.com/shamaniaq You can also find him on Facebook and he's happy to share his experiences with the interface. Search under "Jonathan Wayne Mills" and you should find him. Or you can find him among my Friends list, too. FULL DISCLOSURE: I use a SONUUS G2M and am looking to get an i2m when I can. Yes, there CAN be latency issues with the G2M and I almost find it does TOO good a job at converting signals, but I also suspect it comes down to how you're trying to use it...as always, your mileage may vary! Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 1:18 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > is anybody using this gadget? could i play a mono synth line or trigger s= ome > midi event with decent latency figures? > > http://www.sonuus.com/products_i2m_mp.html > > -- > .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. > raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 26 14:18:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D51D71834A3; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 14:18:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <4DB5C312.8090705@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - a month later Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 10:18:33 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 151.201.17.93 In-Reply-To: <4DB5C312.8090705@cruzio.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: michael klobuchar X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33636-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CDD233F5DC48C3-2FC-1B925@angweb-usm004.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109201 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 14:18:46 +0000 (UTC) rickeee sez: I just updated my firmware on my M9 to 2.2 i didn't know this could be done!.....how about the M13? how does one do this?.....thanks From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 26 15:14:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2196718349D; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 15:14:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=kcpC5J5QQTpCDQxq6rm1sP5JpL1SnqgsnHXm/lNt0BU=; b=nlFaphXlxhBADX5uYJ6O9jc2GVfhR/xgPtuHWUpdVCLmIYOnKnnnNL8LKnGayE4ozN eoCjo836ZqU93FUwFZcy5/o2NongsMqIVscE8IHJ6DaT1h9fS9g7LBBEG1UIljxQE7xh v8iD/mtn8CetoSVnxaem7XfBX2/one3jAjdew= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=KLcDM8g0l71U5nnslGrrWrEFCMRmvAOqoC5d3ERtSF/RcnoQ8M+BtSH6SET2sogUhL pMMwJdVyQCDvDxIE2zoMiTRl9p4SNy1KBD/dvzom68sTwQyH+3gFwTFK5u/dxe5k/WcS szfS7JUeNr478cuP8tYXwwuUMcfPTebs5z0zU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 18:14:28 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: BOSS RC-50 users on the list From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3010edf3c8bf5204a1d3c735 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109202 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 15:14:29 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3010edf3c8bf5204a1d3c735 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi and thanks to everybody for your responses! BUT it seems that RC-50 is not available here in Finland, anymore. The Roland headquarters is Denmark that supply gear to Nordic countries had replied to my store, that they dont have any RC-50's there. The chain of stores I use here in Finland, doesnt have not one unit here. So will it become a discontinued product that gets replaced by the new RC-30... who knows...? SO I'm getting the new RC-30 for test drive next week. Looking at the manual, it seems pretty straightforward unit. Need extra footswitch, which is always annoying. Probably nobody on the list doesnt have one of those, cause its so new unit? Think it was 2011 January when the first units shipped. -Petri- 2011/4/26 Victor Eijkhout > > On Apr 25, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > > > Were there RC-50 users on the list? > > Check. Just bought it a month ago so I'm still learning. Fun toy though. > > Victor. > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com --20cf3010edf3c8bf5204a1d3c735 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi and thanks to everybody for your responses!

BUT it seems that RC-= 50 is not available here in Finland, anymore.

The Roland headquarter= s is Denmark that supply gear to Nordic countries had replied to my store, = that they dont have any RC-50's there.
The chain of stores I use here in Finland, doesnt have not one unit here. S= o will it become a discontinued product that gets replaced by the new RC-30= ... who knows...?

SO I'm getting the new RC-30 for test drive ne= xt week.

Looking at the manual, it seems pretty straightforward unit. Need extra= footswitch, which is always annoying.
Probably nobody on the list doesn= t have one of those, cause its so new unit? Think it was 2011 January when = the first units shipped.

-Petri-

2011/4/26 Victor Eijkhout <victor@eijkhout.n= et>

On Apr 25, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote:

> Were there RC-50 users on the list?

Check. Just bought it a month ago so I'm still learning. Fun toy = though.

Victor.




--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www= .petrilahtinen.com

--20cf3010edf3c8bf5204a1d3c735-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 26 16:21:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D93618349D; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:21:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=HThcoOgbotTbPSUTmDvnYR7zjaXBvLMww/zL3wKWuHk=; b=WEu2/CZlJLku9TxHqHXqnOo4F3iA0hvqodbm7258d1rSFOZ9X3hCedNsTzVjRW0qPZ vru3Dlvlu+/RjZaBqcJ6hDuuygCc5zdSZohFr+hwQBIsBF9YFb9KuWj+v0tzL15mMFxO 4owwHVWYpKiQsKZ1YN5sp7jzttwy2j2pncmo0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hU5a1J7DdBYu40Ii1u+tQ4DbuD99POapbrJZV0KFMtTNi8brD8hnsTTJsyGqElriIR 2nk45cwHRxoGAbKqfn2xdmP2C68BF3ZRyEJ/kj/DMzua/6GI0iTrS6FtXcE4MmBz7gOa Rh3VY8cFeOm6Tcnenz+/LQqQ7QeGYoReImWY4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CDD233F5DC48C3-2FC-1B925@angweb-usm004.sysops.aol.com> References: <4DB5C312.8090705@cruzio.com> <8CDD233F5DC48C3-2FC-1B925@angweb-usm004.sysops.aol.com> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 12:21:38 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - a month later From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6dab10dff4e9604a1d4b793 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109203 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:21:40 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6dab10dff4e9604a1d4b793 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey Michael, I updated my M9 also. The M 13 is a bit different but here are the instructions http://line6.com/community/docs/DOC-1395 note that you will want to save your scenes as the update will rewrite them back to factory... J On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 10:18 AM, michael klobuchar wrote: > > rickeee sez: I just updated my firmware on my M9 to 2.2 > > > i didn't know this could be done!.....how about the M13? > > how does one do this?.....thanks > > --0016e6dab10dff4e9604a1d4b793 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Michael, I updated my M9 also. The M 13 is a bit different but here are= the instructions http= ://line6.com/community/docs/DOC-1395

note that you will want to = save your scenes as the update will rewrite them back to factory...

J

On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 10:18 AM, m= ichael klobuchar <nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:

rickeee sez: I just updated my firmware on my M9 to 2.2


i didn't know this could be done!.....how about the M13?

how does one do this?.....thanks


--0016e6dab10dff4e9604a1d4b793-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 26 17:55:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C63518349D; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 17:55:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XYRCQb/RSplrMG0NNPpPh3AC5d3T+6oqToRsqlKdBZo=; b=GYnbz4hWzWCqcnuhqVrtXopvplbCyGXlF6IkTwPVCZh7Bx/CTrmXTR1aGTYUQ9U+aU m6+rqUbl5wi3a5Pc7j08y9jkuEiSPT5+ZetOJuAcXPCAQii/daSrepEFJRElv3yQBIs9 3fnmOBEMDkPpDNI8vcvDDQpQo8cOiGhwJTQeU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Tr2ZnmOfm4R1eV++gZHAcmTJYfMZ2O1EvMLvctLMBbcMf/xkDFk88u+6+g/cBG73HD kkBxHCMhRNOjIIkjjQ5MdloOXLxHQUBScWJyau4E0q9qbGqmTJNOzZ6fbwc/SP8m0Kji O5PCnB3Wk9rjfRgWLEwWBQwJmnzMOKVmPVwVs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 12:55:39 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Eh 2880 - midi sync and sound fidelity From: marcus kirby To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd608d43b117c04a1d60829 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109204 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 17:55:40 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd608d43b117c04a1d60829 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Good to know. A stable midi sync, no drift, is absolutely necessary for what I do. On Apr 26, 2011 8:08 AM, "Charles Zwicky" wrote: > > I 've layered thousands of passes on my 2880 with no fidelity issues > whatsoever. I'd say it's excellent. > I've only used the MIDI synch a few times but I recall that it worked > very well in both as master clock and when slaved to an external > clock. > >>I've been looking at the 2880 for awhile, but haven't been able to >>find info about the tightness of midi sync when slaved to a drum >>machine. Anyone slave sync theirs? How is the tightness, and do midi >>parameter controls via ableton work well? >> >>Also, how is the sound quality. I like that the edp has decent sound >>quality, and want to maintain fidelity. > > > -- > > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > > http://albumcredits.com/zmix > --000e0cd608d43b117c04a1d60829 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Good to know. A stable midi sync, no drift, is absolutely necessary for = what I do.

On Apr 26, 2011 8:08 AM, "Charles Zwicky&qu= ot; <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> I 've layered thousa= nds of passes on my 2880 with no fidelity issues
> whatsoever. I'd say it's excellent.
> I've only use= d the MIDI synch a few times but I recall that it worked
> very well= in both as master clock and when slaved to an external
> clock.
>
>>I've been looking at the 2880 for awhile, but haven= 9;t been able to
>>find info about the tightness of midi sync whe= n slaved to a drum
>>machine. Anyone slave sync theirs? How is th= e tightness, and do midi
>>parameter controls via ableton work well?
>>
>>Al= so, how is the sound quality. I like that the edp has decent sound
>= >quality, and want to maintain fidelity.
>
>
> -- >
> ...
> http://www.zmix.n= et
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> htt= p://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky
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> http://albumcredits.com/zmix
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--000e0cd608d43b117c04a1d60829-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 26 22:38:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B7B818349D; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 22:38:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=cvd53buLIi35JcRW+YMQTQQem+heMIhEzAjNx1mkrlg=; b=Qc/N83mh8xMJcv832x63ruO/2R4cwkc0kE0JOoTj1kujtSurgARgxzncvSoAR3qlN0 ibs92m3IjD/m7RusB+7kL2iP3ZbS2Mf7gYaWl++n5pZYQ79fGgRrbB6cA9jM0t1/v9k3 Aj6NovIEIy3MP4tQFoxndRsA8TEagvt/l4IuM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; b=BO38ZnF+WBzaN+cLAAdNxT85FKdnMpv/E60D97zWPHpSt5PgwiRDT6kSY2E/ZhH8Hh FHjiShfGT+crHoKQSdnXFtwRghgPSkDIlUSwfDGE4S4ky/knqHp+iDsbqr+TORd7WAId 4LkwXKKxDqFwFB4qnyQfCvAOMForCtSeorjDw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 00:37:53 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Q5i6NC_Fznz88LYB56nGPdE9U2w Message-ID: Subject: loopy music on new vimeo film To: loopers-delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109205 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 22:38:16 +0000 (UTC) Hi, We spent the easter weekend in the forest with no electricity, heres a little film I made before the iPhone batteries ran out.. music is a loopy thing I knocked out Sunday night... Enjoy.. http://vimeo.com/22907894 -- Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 26 22:52:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 006C618349C; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 22:52:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7j++bvkcVEJyYIWMK3zWfXspAY2jzdc7WbSEDdK4d1Y=; b=idMB5ZQ8H7tC7iuccuq74WIr8GzuRrbIWskUqg5ksUaXQ80aHvk7NnH6vnvYhF/w13 eMCdkTwiGHJDRsqO3mZFHYRV4U2jYbSn2s92vvRw49UO9lP2OOyHK1tg3ObzsmJxPwpD hEhrXSg5g5g4eBweAxdM/w45YzGiqCr1fOG5Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=kVQ0RbZQ9/chFz9qZ89WEttsSUzQJilDWhWXda+KJyjFBgO/7YJMI81Sp3vE2hs+WH jUevfD9vYKotb8MUpBAiF7xgexPqdOrjAL/MnzUS3pPGj4QkKfzn2XX0IOtHAkilPdiD 2Ffx1eU1ONFTJXk23DHPuf2S1SAtAFzFWZQRc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 00:52:54 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: loopy music on new vimeo film From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109206 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 22:52:55 +0000 (UTC) That was a nice one! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 12:37 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Hi, > We spent the easter weekend in the forest with no electricity, heres a > little film I made before the iPhone batteries ran out.. music is a > loopy thing I knocked out Sunday night... > Enjoy.. > > http://vimeo.com/22907894 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 27 00:33:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7175018349D; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 00:33:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <904C8482-57C5-4271-9239-88030D85A5B9@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--860329460 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Looping In Kyoto Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 17:33:04 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109207 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 00:33:13 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--860329460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Gang my friend Yumiko sent me these links to this weekend's staging of Looper's lounge that musicians Ryusei Hattori and Hideki"Mando Man" Nakanishi have been hosting and taking part in, Both guys are like brothers to me, having come and played Rick's Y2K fest on several occasions since 2005. here are parts of there sets. enjoy bill http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSYTSHUPvwI&feature=BFa&list=UL8fsB8I2Nn30&index=16 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgLpVPYOPdk&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL --Apple-Mail-1--860329460 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey Gang my friend Yumiko = sent me these links to this weekend's staging of Looper's lounge that = musicians Ryusei Hattori and Hideki"Mando Man" Nakanishi have been = hosting and taking part in, Both guys are like brothers to me, =  having come and played Rick's Y2K fest on several occasions since = 2005. here are parts of there sets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DMSY= TSHUPvwI&feature=3DBFa&list=3DUL8fsB8I2Nn30&index=3D16



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DcgLpVPYOPdk&feat= ure=3Dmfu_in_order&list=3DUL= --Apple-Mail-1--860329460-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 27 01:39:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28CE018349D; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 01:39:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Looping In Kyoto References: <904C8482-57C5-4271-9239-88030D85A5B9@baymoon.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-373--856435111"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: <904C8482-57C5-4271-9239-88030D85A5B9@baymoon.com> Thread-Topic: Looping In Kyoto Thread-Index: AcwEe8HAr8z8gjTwR26HGoX3FdVtUw== Message-ID: <0C1E0937-8D94-4BF4-83CE-71E89C679A6F@1800dialword.com> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 21:37:58 -0400 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8F190) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Apr 2011 01:39:04.0396 (UTC) FILETIME=[E44298C0:01CC047B] Resent-Message-ID: <4GRkmC.A.SrC.5O3tNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109208 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 01:39:06 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-373--856435111 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dern I've seen how you and rick get along, sorry to hear JapanAmerican relat= ions are this low in a time of crisis!!! Nice, I just heard from my Japanese brother today and his family are here fo= r merlefest and all safe. About half the Bluegrass festivals in the north ha= lf are gone for now. Sad.=20 We gotta get over there!!! Abdy o On Apr 26, 2011, at 8:33 PM, "William Walker" wrote= : > Hey Gang my friend Yumiko sent me these links to this weekend's staging of= Looper's lounge that musicians Ryusei Hattori and Hideki"Mando Man" Nakanis= hi have been hosting and taking part in, Both guys are like brothers to me, = having come and played Rick's Y2K fest on several occasions since 2005. her= e are parts of there sets. > enjoy >=20 > bill >=20 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DMSYTSHUPvwI&feature=3DBFa&list=3DUL8fsB8I= 2Nn30&index=3D16 >=20 >=20 >=20 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DcgLpVPYOPdk&feature=3Dmfu_in_order&list=3D= UL --Apple-Mail-373--856435111 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 PGh0bWw+PGJvZHkgYmdjb2xvcj0iI0ZGRkZGRiI+PGRpdj5EZXJuIEkndmUgc2VlbiBob3cgeW91 IGFuZCByaWNrIGdldCBhbG9uZywgc29ycnkgdG8gaGVhciBKYXBhbkFtZXJpY2FuIHJlbGF0aW9u cyBhcmUgdGhpcyBsb3cgaW4gYSB0aW1lIG9mIGNyaXNpcyEhITwvZGl2PjxkaXY+PGJyPjwvZGl2 PjxkaXY+TmljZSwgSSBqdXN0IGhlYXJkIGZyb20gbXkgSmFwYW5lc2UgYnJvdGhlciB0b2RheSBh bmQgaGlzIGZhbWlseSBhcmUgaGVyZSBmb3IgbWVybGVmZXN0IGFuZCBhbGwgc2FmZS4gQWJvdXQg aGFsZiB0aGUgQmx1ZWdyYXNzIGZlc3RpdmFscyBpbiB0aGUgbm9ydGggaGFsZiBhcmUgZ29uZSBm b3Igbm93LiBTYWQuJm5ic3A7PC9kaXY+PGRpdj48YnI+PC9kaXY+PGRpdj5XZSBnb3R0YSBnZXQg b3ZlciB0aGVyZSEhITwvZGl2PjxkaXY+PGJyPjwvZGl2PjxkaXY+QWJkeSBvPC9kaXY+PGRpdj48 YnI+PGRpdj48YnI+PC9kaXY+PC9kaXY+PGRpdj48YnI+T24gQXByIDI2LCAyMDExLCBhdCA4OjMz IFBNLCAiV2lsbGlhbSBXYWxrZXIiICZsdDs8YSBocmVmPSJtYWlsdG86YmlsbHdhbGtlckBiYXlt b29uLmNvbSI+YmlsbHdhbGtlckBiYXltb29uLmNvbTwvYT4mZ3Q7IHdyb3RlOjxicj48YnI+PC9k aXY+PGRpdj48L2Rpdj48YmxvY2txdW90ZSB0eXBlPSJjaXRlIj48ZGl2PjxkaXY+SGV5IEdhbmcg bXkgZnJpZW5kIFl1bWlrbyBzZW50IG1lIHRoZXNlIGxpbmtzIHRvIHRoaXMgd2Vla2VuZCdzIHN0 YWdpbmcgb2YgTG9vcGVyJ3MgbG91bmdlIHRoYXQgbXVzaWNpYW5zIFJ5dXNlaSBIYXR0b3JpIGFu ZCZuYnNwOzxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJBcHBsZS1zdHlsZS1zcGFuIiBzdHlsZT0iZm9udC1mYW1pbHk6 ICdsdWNpZGEgZ3JhbmRlJywgdGFob21hLCB2ZXJkYW5hLCBhcmlhbCwgc2Fucy1zZXJpZjsgZm9u dC1zaXplOiAxMnB4OyAiPkhpZGVraSJNYW5kbyBNYW4iIE5ha2FuaXNoaSBoYXZlIGJlZW4gaG9z dGluZyBhbmQgdGFraW5nIHBhcnQgaW4sIEJvdGggZ3V5cyBhcmUgbGlrZSBicm90aGVycyB0byBt ZSwgJm5ic3A7aGF2aW5nIGNvbWUgYW5kIHBsYXllZCBSaWNrJ3MgWTJLIGZlc3Qgb24gc2V2ZXJh bCBvY2Nhc2lvbnMgc2luY2UgMjAwNS4gaGVyZSBhcmUgcGFydHMgb2YgdGhlcmUgc2V0cy48L3Nw YW4+PC9kaXY+PGRpdj48c3BhbiBjbGFzcz0iQXBwbGUtc3R5bGUtc3BhbiIgc3R5bGU9ImZvbnQt ZmFtaWx5OiAnbHVjaWRhIGdyYW5kZScsIHRhaG9tYSwgdmVyZGFuYSwgYXJpYWwsIHNhbnMtc2Vy aWY7IGZvbnQtc2l6ZTogMTJweDsgIj4mbmJzcDtlbmpveTwvc3Bhbj48L2Rpdj48ZGl2PjxzcGFu IGNsYXNzPSJBcHBsZS1zdHlsZS1zcGFuIiBzdHlsZT0iZm9udC1mYW1pbHk6ICdsdWNpZGEgZ3Jh bmRlJywgdGFob21hLCB2ZXJkYW5hLCBhcmlhbCwgc2Fucy1zZXJpZjsgZm9udC1zaXplOiAxMnB4 OyAiPjxicj48L3NwYW4+PC9kaXY+PGRpdj48c3BhbiBjbGFzcz0iQXBwbGUtc3R5bGUtc3BhbiIg c3R5bGU9ImZvbnQtZmFtaWx5OiAnbHVjaWRhIGdyYW5kZScsIHRhaG9tYSwgdmVyZGFuYSwgYXJp YWwsIHNhbnMtc2VyaWY7IGZvbnQtc2l6ZTogMTJweDsgIj5iaWxsPC9zcGFuPjwvZGl2PjxkaXY+ PGJyPjwvZGl2PjxkaXY+PGEgaHJlZj0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy55b3V0dWJlLmNvbS93YXRjaD92PU1T WVRTSFVQdndJJmFtcDtmZWF0dXJlPUJGYSZhbXA7bGlzdD1VTDhmc0I4STJObjMwJmFtcDtpbmRl eD0xNiI+PGEgaHJlZj0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy55b3V0dWJlLmNvbS93YXRjaD92PU1TWVRTSFVQdndJ JmFtcDtmZWF0dXJlPUJGYSZhbXA7bGlzdD1VTDhmc0I4STJObjMwJmFtcDtpbmRleD0xNiI+aHR0 cDovL3d3dy55b3V0dWJlLmNvbS93YXRjaD92PU1TWVRTSFVQdndJJmFtcDtmZWF0dXJlPUJGYSZh bXA7bGlzdD1VTDhmc0I4STJObjMwJmFtcDtpbmRleD0xNjwvYT48L2E+PC9kaXY+PGRpdj48YnI+ PC9kaXY+PGRpdj48YnI+PC9kaXY+PGRpdj48YnI+PC9kaXY+PGEgaHJlZj0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy55 b3V0dWJlLmNvbS93YXRjaD92PWNnTHBWUFlPUGRrJmFtcDtmZWF0dXJlPW1mdV9pbl9vcmRlciZh bXA7bGlzdD1VTCI+PGEgaHJlZj0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy55b3V0dWJlLmNvbS93YXRjaD92PWNnTHBW UFlPUGRrJmFtcDtmZWF0dXJlPW1mdV9pbl9vcmRlciZhbXA7bGlzdD1VTCI+aHR0cDovL3d3dy55 b3V0dWJlLmNvbS93YXRjaD92PWNnTHBWUFlPUGRrJmFtcDtmZWF0dXJlPW1mdV9pbl9vcmRlciZh bXA7bGlzdD1VTDwvYT48L2E+PC9kaXY+PC9ibG9ja3F1b3RlPjwvYm9keT48L2h0bWw+ --Apple-Mail-373--856435111-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 27 03:19:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8297518349F; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 03:19:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DB78B1D.7060309@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 20:18:53 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: michael klobuchar CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - a month later References: <8CDD233F5DC48C3-2FC-1B925@angweb-usm004.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CDD233F5DC48C3-2FC-1B925@angweb-usm004.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109209 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 03:19:02 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, michael klobuchar wrote: > rickeee sez: I just updated my firmware on my M9 to 2.2 > > > i didn't know this could be done!.....how about the M13? > > how does one do this?.....thanks Don't know the answer because I don't actually own the M13. But the directions for accomplishing this are in your Advance Owners Manual for the M9 under appendix B "Updating Flash Memory" You have to have a midi set up with your computer (the MAudio Uno is really cheap and effective) and you have to download the Line 6 Monkey which is a progam which connects to your unit through the midi connection in your computer and lets you know if an update is available. it just took a few minutes to do it and tons of fun. 5 minutes of research on your part tops should do the trick. good luck, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 27 03:39:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4AC6818349D; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 03:39:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DB78FEE.9050903@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 20:39:26 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: William Walker CC: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping In Kyoto References: <904C8482-57C5-4271-9239-88030D85A5B9@baymoon.com> In-Reply-To: <904C8482-57C5-4271-9239-88030D85A5B9@baymoon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109210 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 03:39:33 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, William Walker wrote: > Hey Gang my friend Yumiko sent me these links to this weekend's > staging of Looper's lounge that musicians Ryusei Hattori and > Hideki"Mando Man" Nakanishi have been hosting and taking part in, Both > guys are like brothers to me, having come and played Rick's Y2K fest > on several occasions since 2005. here are parts of there sets. > enjoy Thanks for posting those Bill. Both Rysuei and Hideki are amazing musicians and great brothers. Seeing there music really brings back fond memories for me: I met Ryusei when Sunao Inami and Aci brought me to Japan to play with my solo Goth act, Ultra Violette, at the Kobe Underground Festival and we played a little looping festival in Kyoto (as memory serves). I immediately asked him to come to California to play the loop festival and he suggested Hideki as well. I'm so glad he did. I hope someday to return to Japan to loop with Sunao, Ryusei and Hideki again. Visiting there has been one of the highlights of my entire musical life. Aci and Haru were incredibly gracious to me when I visited. They treated me like a king. It was also the first time in my life that I ever recorded every single instrument, wrote the lyrics and sang on a song, so it was like a dream come true to me to be included on the Kobe Underground Compilation with many great Japanese Goth and Darkwave bands. When I got there, Aci's band, Phantasmagoria backed me up. They had already learned the entire tune so I didn't have to play to a backing track as I thought I might have to. At the end of the performance, they introduced me as "Loop.pooL" and everyone left the stage. I was flabbergasted as I had nothing prepared and only a microphone and all of my looping gear with me. Luckily, I had coincidentally, spent the past year performing acapella with my looping gear so I just went into a heavy, dark faux industrial beat box and improvised for about 15 minutes. When I stopped, there was dead silence. I thought I had bombed, but the audience was just being politely patient (as they always seem to be in Japan) and I got one of the biggest ovations I've ever had as a solo artist. I went from feeling horrible to being on cloud nine in the space of 5 seconds............lol. For the rest of the night, different Japanese bands came up to me backstage and let me know that they had loved my 'industrial beat-a-box-a' and wanted to know if I would contribute some to their recordings. I'll never forget that experience as long as I live. If anyone is interested, here is a page with my track, "It doesn't matter (what they say)", and a poster for the event and some of the Goth remixes I made for the Bay Area goth scenes (Peter Murphy, Cocteau Twins and Tones on Tail) www.looppool.info/UltraViolette/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 27 03:44:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E3CB718349D; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 03:44:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DB79129.70509@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 20:44:41 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looperlative software version stability and Red-House fx References: <4DB68A0A.6080901@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4DB68A0A.6080901@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109211 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 03:44:49 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote: > Most stable software version for the Looperlative > is > v1.34d I haven't tried it yet, but Bob told me last night that he has posted v1.39 and that he's fixed all the midi sync issues and all the issues that had been talked about. I haven't had time to try it out as I'm busy doing final beta testing on the LP-2 but I'm really curious is this is better than v1.37 or v1.38 Have you tried it out yet, Andy? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 27 04:50:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DCDD18349C; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 04:50:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Looperlative software version stability and Red-House fx References: <4DB68A0A.6080901@tiscali.co.uk> <4DB79129.70509@cruzio.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <4DB79129.70509@cruzio.com> Thread-Topic: Looperlative software version stability and Red-House fx Thread-Index: AcwEldI/g8muTzkMQmeBs9G++JRxKQ== Message-ID: <334DFD77-71EC-4FC2-92C5-ADC6E81B9F32@1800dialword.com> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 00:44:35 -0400 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8F190) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Apr 2011 04:50:37.0101 (UTC) FILETIME=[A67235D0:01CC0496] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109212 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 04:50:39 +0000 (UTC) This Andy hasnt tried it yet but by golly I will tomorrow!!!!! Andy o On Apr 26, 2011, at 11:44 PM, "Rick Walker" wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote: >> Most stable software version for the Looperlative >> is >> v1.34d=20 > I haven't tried it yet, but Bob told me last night that he has posted > v1.39 and that he's fixed all the midi sync issues and all the issues > that had been talked about. >=20 > I haven't had time to try it out as I'm busy doing final beta testing on t= he > LP-2 but I'm really curious is this is better than v1.37 or v1.38 >=20 > Have you tried it out yet, Andy? >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 27 06:31:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 959F718349D; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 06:31:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <6F37F258-8A75-4303-AA4F-94004AC03702@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: loopy music on new vimeo film Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 23:31:44 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109213 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 06:31:52 +0000 (UTC) Lovely Mark, cool soundtrack to a beautiful film. Nice to see your corner of the world. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 27 08:05:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E685B183453; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:05:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Ly/0yvwsKI9qtTMHPJw+A7c/vHij/Q8ETCNPeAeiy3g=; b=RM2kYXkVIcRqf7d7BCDWU1rPl3J5wLSJqNdgry8HmycWGlroiNauUKpDYFWhqAgFC0 tc6RDqFxYPlu8iLVFDX/8IPhNhMCa+nU6nnbCdHG6En5mU56empbDPt5M54tnwd+XzlW ng2xjXVyUgqcjV0ivH/2o9yNUOXD0Kwto9vDE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=iwKdFb7OaybqBdONOXYlxXtwwmQvv2nAFLgtBymp/9LYWzMc2pykZhSsvRliBEfxue q14Z/fadQcPCL94hmGvnd4lPfS/7qHTd1jcn2/TLPg07YcJFUVQibxrQeT+ndPTN1CAS EpoxUdafsyT5Wu3KR71C/7VLMEAKPYWQQxwGE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:05:22 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: loopy music on new vimeo film From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109214 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:05:24 +0000 (UTC) wow very nice Mark! im discovering other talents from many of you,film editing is something id like to eventually get into,what program did u use for post editing? love the music as well,cheers! Luis On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 12:52 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > That was a nice one! > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > > > > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 12:37 AM, mark francombe wrote: >> Hi, >> We spent the easter weekend in the forest with no electricity, heres a >> little film I made before the iPhone batteries ran out.. music is a >> loopy thing I knocked out Sunday night... >> Enjoy.. >> >> http://vimeo.com/22907894 > > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 27 08:25:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89F84183486; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:25:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=brNG99fTr6b+XNQtnc5UB0nF1erg4EWVHc1rRe9t6Zw=; b=rB9y9h5md7aoQh6aLY13H+PYmObI7a9abtSTZ+O+Rv+/Vlf+abU5ZUEMPg7Sghs5Pq dGMzYCdCbgVx7nrMiKfuSdnutvP+gWUdsna20PhSGD80KBnbld6Epb0btrgk8MmEtc98 AFNhseds+H5KSLNIAnKmGdk1T84ru/oZlmYE8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ZnrBbzWTpyudA4tgl2APG6X7A7W7l1QQdDi5qNmf7utdxjGj5I5WTorxq0m+0S4MNo vDeYumr+g3jHh78DR1l87lAu6H2N9qrbSIPN4tn6SclRa7T35NmAGu16nvFiHGpKqtCS VgZWH+gcNmbD4cNPOOkBpjPyezsZ34JA/NHSU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:25:52 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: BOSS RC-50 users on the list From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <5V01h.A.DtC.RM9tNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109215 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:25:53 +0000 (UTC) Hi Petri, how funny that im doing the same thing! You arer absolutely right,that software is anoying,im preparing for a gig this saturday and it took me almost an hour to get some samples transfered to the Digitech from their flimsy software,there is a new firmware version which i installed prior to working with it,i dont know what that is meant for,i started importing wav files and in the middle of working it crashed bad and lost it all, so i had to restart again.Prior to that i was rehearsing with it and as i was scrolling through the samples the digitech froze and cound not get it to do anything so i reboot it and found out i had lost every other sample in a slot,luckly i had made a jam list backup so i retransfered all the files. what i do like about the digitech is the easy of scrolling through the samples,but that switch click is so loud that it gets recorded everytime i loop anything(i have my mic going into the loops as well) I dont know why they replaced the old switches,they seem a lot quieter, think the Boss-RC30 will be better in that department. oh dont waste your time trying to call them or suggest improvements,their support is nada! Im also getting the RC-30 perhaps today or tomorrow to try out,im just using this for small pedalboard type of bar gigs and no racks,the RC-30 has an essential feature for me like the independent tracks,is too bad they didnt assign the undo/redo with the footswitch like the Digitech has,you still have to step on it 2 seconds impractical if u want ot do A-B arrangments grrr! oh well lets see if it beats the Digi cheers Luis On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > Hi and thanks to everybody for your responses! > > BUT it seems that RC-50 is not available here in Finland, anymore. > > The Roland headquarters is Denmark that supply gear to Nordic countries had > replied to my store, that they dont have any RC-50's there. > The chain of stores I use here in Finland, doesnt have not one unit here. So > will it become a discontinued product that gets replaced by the new RC-30... > who knows...? > > SO I'm getting the new RC-30 for test drive next week. > > Looking at the manual, it seems pretty straightforward unit. Need extra > footswitch, which is always annoying. > Probably nobody on the list doesnt have one of those, cause its so new unit? > Think it was 2011 January when the first units shipped. > > -Petri- > > 2011/4/26 Victor Eijkhout >> >> On Apr 25, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: >> >> > Were there RC-50 users on the list? >> >> Check. Just bought it a month ago so I'm still learning. Fun toy though. >> >> Victor. >> > > > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 27 08:41:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2CE261834A1; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:41:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=awILr00Q7IQJZH//b43yE5DEH4+BEK80SQfMtthDQ5s=; b=rn8ZHWYj3peEK1/epzoqk9WEI3EPEuw9o9HXqfP2IiV0e2E2+s+xVjV/oKZW24wPV1 h6jCiv/gpzO6yeH0N7tHStzHgF3bnVeV3B4u55qU9YNkSWRWRgIiX1Nsz1A9KpcAdHcB sh78fOrAuP6tOtiqKvMCxzxk9jN0N7jFxrlx4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=N8Xn9mxsSpAMNMJHw+Q2u4rf2J/otxPRAfyo+3Cs4omwTaMz/ChaqbU6XmCA1VPnHY FgVqinJrb6P5v+YoF4QLt1MYmuc5y5RUoxG+MqOR1JlaFCS1dLX6fRZaZeTI5kOyOlpo MCw9L2DNvxnIMc689ChRFPR0QStrPRSrRvuvg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <43071.98733.qm@web120707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:41:14 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: portable PA for electronic looper From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <87cHsC.A.28C.ra9tNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109216 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:41:15 +0000 (UTC) oh man Mark that sounds like paradise!! here in southern Germany you always have to bring a P.A. to bars or coffee shops,except for big music venues so being a band leader you have several jobs,loading it,transporting it,installing it,doing the whole soundcheck for the band getting up there to playing and singing,then tearying it apart and loading it back,etc. forget trying to get somebody to do all this for you,you will come home with empty pockets! that also means you have to buy a P.A. also bar owners get really sensitive when you give them an estimate, but as soon as i asked them if they can provide a P.A. for the price they want to pay they get quiet;-) Luis On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 7:56 PM, mark francombe wr= ote: > Here in Norway, its unlikely that a coffeebar/cafe style "gig" will > NOT have a PA, if they are doing gigs, they=B4ll have a PA.. And they > will probably insist that you use it.. no bringing in anything else. > So I havent owned an amp for about 20 years. I do sometime get a > request to do an Art opening or something... Then I just bring my > studio monitors (the tiny Genelecs) that just lack bass ooomph.. so I > borrow a big speaker and plug it into the Gennys Bottom out socket > (well its got a roll-off switch at least...) > > Probably bad usage, but works for me... > > > Mark > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 6:25 PM, =A0 wrote: >> Bose L1 compact >> Antony >> ________________________________ >> From: Michael Peters >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Sent: Mon, April 25, 2011 6:20:14 PM >> Subject: portable PA for electronic looper >> >> just wondering what you use if you want to play in a club or gallery whi= ch >> doesn't have a PA and you have to bring your own, and you don't want to = use >> guitar combos but something clean - the stuff that I do does come from t= he >> guitar but goes through laptop and plugins and has more the spectrum of >> keyboard music, with possibly lots of dynamics and bass. A friend uses a >> pair of Rokit studio monitors for his ambient music but another friend s= aid >> these are not suitable for more dynamic music, and I should get a small = PA >> instead. No idea what kind of product would be suitable but it should be >> lightweight, small, and not terribly expensive. Ideas anyone? >> >> -Michael >> >> > > > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 27 09:42:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29FFB183486; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:42:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 441 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:42:45 UTC From: Inami Sunao Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--827795796 Subject: Re: Looping In Kyoto Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:35:18 +0900 In-Reply-To: <4DB78FEE.9050903@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <904C8482-57C5-4271-9239-88030D85A5B9@baymoon.com> <4DB78FEE.9050903@cruzio.com> Message-Id: <6B18358C-18C2-4F2A-B988-97F40BD5C5A4@cavestudio.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109217 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:42:45 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--827795796 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Hi Rick, Thank you for remembering me ;) I hope we play again in Japan or USA someday=1B$B!D=1B(B Sunao http://www.facebook.com/sunaoinami.official On 2011/04/27, at 12:39, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, William Walker wrote: >> Hey Gang my friend Yumiko sent me these links to this weekend's = staging of Looper's lounge that musicians Ryusei Hattori and = Hideki"Mando Man" Nakanishi have been hosting and taking part in, Both = guys are like brothers to me, having come and played Rick's Y2K fest on = several occasions since 2005. here are parts of there sets. >> enjoy > Thanks for posting those Bill. Both Rysuei and Hideki are amazing = musicians and great brothers. >=20 > Seeing there music really brings back fond memories for me: >=20 > I met Ryusei when Sunao Inami and Aci brought me to Japan to play = with my solo Goth act, Ultra Violette, at the > Kobe Underground Festival and we played a little looping festival in = Kyoto (as memory serves). >=20 > I immediately asked him to come to California to play the loop = festival and he suggested > Hideki as well. I'm so glad he did. >=20 > I hope someday to return to Japan to loop with Sunao, Ryusei and = Hideki > again. Visiting there has been one of the highlights of my entire = musical life. Aci and Haru were incredibly gracious > to me when I visited. They treated me like a king. It was also the = first time in my life that I ever recorded every single > instrument, wrote the lyrics and sang on a song, so it was like a = dream come true to me to be included on > the Kobe Underground Compilation with many great Japanese Goth and = Darkwave bands. When I got there, > Aci's band, Phantasmagoria backed me up. They had already learned = the entire tune so I didn't have to play to a > backing track as I thought I might have to. At the end of the = performance, they introduced me as > "Loop.pooL" and everyone left the stage. I was flabbergasted as = I had nothing prepared and only a microphone > and all of my looping gear with me. Luckily, I had coincidentally, = spent the past year performing acapella with > my looping gear so I just went into a heavy, dark faux industrial = beat box and improvised for about 15 minutes. >=20 > When I stopped, there was dead silence. I thought I had bombed, = but the audience was just being politely patient (as they always > seem to be in Japan) and I got one of the biggest ovations I've ever = had as a solo artist. I went from feeling horrible to being > on cloud nine in the space of 5 seconds............lol. > For the rest of the night, different Japanese bands came up to me = backstage and let me know that they had loved > my 'industrial beat-a-box-a' and wanted to know if I would contribute = some to their recordings. >=20 > I'll never forget that experience as long as I live. >=20 >=20 > If anyone is interested, here is a page with my track, "It doesn't = matter (what they say)", and a poster for the event and some of the > Goth remixes I made for the Bay Area goth scenes (Peter Murphy, = Cocteau Twins and Tones on Tail) >=20 > www.looppool.info/UltraViolette/ >=20 --Apple-Mail-3--827795796 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-2022-jp
Hi = Rick,

;)
I hope we play again in Japan or = USA someday=1B$B!D=1B(B




On = 2011/04/27, at 12:39, Rick Walker wrote:

On = 7/22/64 11:59 AM, William Walker wrote:
Hey = Gang my friend Yumiko sent me these links to this weekend's staging of = Looper's lounge that musicians Ryusei Hattori and Hideki"Mando Man" = Nakanishi have been hosting and taking part in, Both guys are like = brothers to me,  having come and played Rick's Y2K fest on several = occasions since 2005. here are parts of there = sets.
= enjoy
Thanks for posting those Bill.   Both = Rysuei and Hideki are amazing musicians and great = brothers.

Seeing there music really brings back fond memories for = me:

   I met Ryusei when Sunao Inami and Aci = brought me to Japan to play with my solo Goth act,  Ultra Violette, =  at the
Kobe Underground Festival and we played a little looping = festival in Kyoto (as memory serves).

   I = immediately asked him to come to California to play the loop festival = and he suggested
Hideki as well.  I'm so glad he did.

=    I hope someday to return to Japan to loop with Sunao, = Ryusei and Hideki
again.     Visiting there has = been one of the highlights of my entire musical life. =    Aci and Haru were incredibly gracious
to me when I = visited.   They treated me like a king.   It was = also the first time in my life that I ever recorded every = single
instrument,  wrote the lyrics and sang on a song, so it = was like a dream come true to me to be included on
the Kobe = Underground Compilation with many great Japanese Goth and Darkwave = bands.   When I got there,
Aci's band, Phantasmagoria = backed me up.   They had already learned the entire tune so I = didn't have to play to a
backing track as I thought I might have to. =     At the end of the performance,  they = introduced me as
"Loop.pooL"   and everyone left the stage. =     I was flabbergasted as I had nothing prepared = and only a microphone
and all of my looping gear with me. =   Luckily, I had coincidentally, spent the past year = performing acapella with
my looping gear so I just went into a heavy, =  dark faux industrial beat box and improvised for about 15 = minutes.

When I stopped,  there was dead silence. =     I thought I had bombed,  but the audience = was just being politely patient (as they always
seem to be in Japan) = and I got one of the biggest ovations I've ever had as a solo artist. =    I went from feeling horrible to being
on cloud nine = in the space of 5 seconds............lol.
For the rest of the night, = different Japanese bands came up to me backstage and let me know that = they had loved
my 'industrial beat-a-box-a' and wanted to know if I = would contribute some to their recordings.

=    I'll never forget that experience as long as I = live.


If anyone is interested, here is a page with my track, = "It doesn't matter (what they say)",  and a poster for the event = and some of the
Goth remixes I made for the Bay Area goth scenes =  (Peter Murphy,  Cocteau Twins and Tones on Tail)

www.looppool.info/UltraVi= olette/


= --Apple-Mail-3--827795796-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 27 10:29:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EAA781834A1; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:29:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 603252402/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.20.50/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.20.50 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnECACbvt01YbRQy/2dsb2JhbAAMmDGXFbl6hXYEklWKKQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.64,273,1301871600"; d="scan'208";a="603252402" Message-ID: <4DB7F003.6060804@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:29:23 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looperlative software version stability and Red-House fx References: <8666F039-DF4C-4D1E-BCDC-A4A69BB460E0@1800dialword.com> <4DB68A0A.6080901@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3hSLjD.A.RYE.DA_tNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109218 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:29:23 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 11:02 AM, andy butler wrote: >> This effect was previously known as SUS Record on the EDP >> and was quite popular a few years back, but seems >> to have been out of favour for a while. > > I had no idea it was out of favour! What a bummer... maybe it explains > the dodgy looks when I use it? we can always hope for a revival > > Incidentally Andy, brainfreeze right now, but is it possible to do > this same effect, but where the SUS (pedal down pedal up) time is > quantised at the (ths setting (sub-cycle)? Is it just to have SUS > record on, PLUS quantise and 8ths set? You mean syncing to incoming midi? I don't think it'll happen...but it might. Couldn't hurt to try. Here's how to make it happen the hard way if that doesn't work out. With Incoming Midi clock MoreLoops=2 SwitchQuant=Cnf InsertMode=SUS Sync=In Quant=8th 8th/cycle= whatever Method. 1) Record blank loop1 (synced) 2) Hit Next 3) Wait for that sound you want to capture 4) Hit Mult 5) Listen and enjoy, but also hit Next 6) Hit Undo to go back to empty loop1 7) Go back to 2) Unfortunately, while the length of the chunk should be right it's not possible to Quantise the start point. Also, midi sync is going to drift...er...probably. > > Ill have to listen to the Red House track, but I know it from old Eno > things from the late 80s--- forget what right now... iirc Music from the Catherine Wheel David Byrne. andy > > Mark > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 27 10:47:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3998A18349D; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:47:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DB7F440.9030104@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 03:47:28 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Inami Sunao CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Looping In Kyoto References: <6B18358C-18C2-4F2A-B988-97F40BD5C5A4@cavestudio.com> In-Reply-To: <6B18358C-18C2-4F2A-B988-97F40BD5C5A4@cavestudio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109219 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:47:37 +0000 (UTC) Sunao Inami wrote: > Hi Rick, Thank you for remembering me;) I hope we play again in Japan > or USA someday… Remember you, Sunao? Are you kidding? You are the father of live looping in Japan. Your work there has constantly been an inspiration to me. For years, you have constantly been innovative with technology; constantly encouraged other artists to get involved and be creative; constantly pushed the envelope of International Live Looping by producing and promoting festivals and special events; constantly produced truly beautiful live looping and synthesizer based music. You were the founder of the first International Live Looping Trio with Swiss looper/guitarist/loop festival producer Bernhard Wagner and myself. You are, and will always be, one of my heroes. Thanks, brother. We will play together again: hopefully in Japan, America and Europe. Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 27 11:08:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C37518349D; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:08:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=8YJZk8a6rqlr5XKnaxmYSoLSnobzrFlj6NFC/CNJVwg=; b=PMROU4qSSTX39C69wawQvXfcgBp3BeP8j4UHHcT06ise4SfRr7SmEbMPW8puFUeRkk fRpp2u4maQi1WVZhXiE0aZjjl1G9Z2yhHr8NWMs8casi4c4lI4LXJveTlpkIjnMarTce wNMe1bXFaibI8Du3rGptL8A/ReFView3XEeLA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=NJpLZoyRiCx5HiWRvS6tJEvVkQyGi7mnE7nLygG4I0BljUjAvwDusj9IlbNi2G9T7B Mja7+YEvnw/WGdLfL9LeZK/fUy4+eS2+j20g6RilU4ZunQ+/WhoT9iR4poB3EEO6HbyU jfZxDxP/GyxJlt54yNGoAE6VRj5JInwWwM9kw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 13:08:11 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: jCP8-wkFTTXmV5Z15F45Dn4aX0I Message-ID: Subject: Re: loopy music on new vimeo film To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109220 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:08:32 +0000 (UTC) Thanks louie, its all Final Cut Pro, but colour effects was all "in camera" the iPhone app I used to shoot it.. called 8mm. -- Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 27 12:12:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E53FE18349F; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:12:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=e30clHlYDPhEFeBoUk03OruMlOgAGEAQn/+6Yl/5MHE=; b=SrQ2ImeDZtEcGmzqRJS9w9M2Owa7QiSQY58MGL0MayhzoRlSnsogtol+GAAB1HJhNS xITbcIDnVtEA6hBkmpsXwjpyOtgdA2OdBBhKNIJshBL/ZljeGdqsSI1+d8AWgyUR6xgg U4/lRuxXjqMoCWoQzkWWmIQc91OKS249pddDg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=a4EkYUQd/7poB9RphCLsnG+tGJS9PGIsVZAD3OEZzvtomZwEfV20frRb0Lis9hBW6v WuzkStvRxtwo3cmCcEqIuPvcfrKnQmi88+S55S1nBdfPM24l4LFNNVIRfyC+bdqF1BzH JlYVTvMtSXcWQemff+xTWC0SazZ/MZcbvXId8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:12:07 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: loopy music on new vimeo film From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3071c7fc7c208704a1e559a5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109221 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:12:08 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3071c7fc7c208704a1e559a5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark that was great, comments posted on Vimeo. I failed to mention the music there though, which was equally as happening as the imagery. Liked the almost glitch factor in it's foundation. Jim On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 7:08 AM, mark francombe wro= te: > Thanks louie, its all Final Cut Pro, but colour effects was all "in > camera" the iPhone app I used to shoot it.. called 8mm. > > > > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf3071c7fc7c208704a1e559a5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark that was great, comments posted on Vimeo. =A0I failed to mention the m= usic there though, which was equally as happening as the imagery. =A0Liked = the almost glitch factor in it's foundation.

Jim
=
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 7:08 AM, mark francombe = <mark@markfr= ancombe.com> wrote:
Thanks louie, its all Final Cut Pro, but colour effects was all "in camera" the iPhone app I used to shoot it.. called 8mm.



--
From Bro= oklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & = Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF In= ternational.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--20cf3071c7fc7c208704a1e559a5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 27 15:27:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3746918349D; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:27:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 To: looppool@cruzio.com X-AOL-IP: 68.162.128.93 References: <8CDD233F5DC48C3-2FC-1B925@angweb-usm004.sysops.aol.com> <4DB78B1D.7060309@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:26:45 -0400 From: michael klobuchar Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - a month later X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33636-STANDARD In-Reply-To: <4DB78B1D.7060309@cruzio.com> Message-Id: <8CDD306A70F0E38-17D4-2020F@webmail-d068.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109222 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:27:03 +0000 (UTC) tanks everyone for the help! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 27 15:29:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6EF1D1834A0; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:29:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=uvwEMMf00/iWTGnRTCwUC5PpDky9BI1m2V8Ap1s9p0g=; b=btfSlRW3bP/aPipVZnCH53gIf23pKFQmZZ4pnbJ0XEvs+61BdULux1kSaFGnciZHfO EFU/vcESgzSDPnUQ8bWe6g87XWXbZr0zfYa82xtDtCQxEyDmA5jrbH3GmHqPMnV66FxC 2c3YfvIXBQ/S6vzuyW8BcuBzoHb5kxxP528uk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=F5lRTxRkimGWorotqYsQ17JW2CNIodtJZuGjSNA5V6R1OIRWW+wN9CWEHomF1hLWlg pPFCTb0dSYGjRnVcUsQsNlN/PK70Rxy0S9rucmtSUncxaR2bAz6nNB/y5yA3aMMsGhKr ZWXoNVw1ABFmqM9fpCyhzhle+rZnTXx+4mYbI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:29:30 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: feedback... From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=005045029bf65b3acd04a1e81b88 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109223 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:29:31 +0000 (UTC) --005045029bf65b3acd04a1e81b88 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 well, as a guitarist i've always loved feedback sounds....i have read all the theory's approaches that everyone has: my examples-i was just listening to THE JIMI HENDRIX CONCERTS album that i have ON CASSETTE...a live compilation that is no longer in print...the song "i don't live today"-WHOOOOOAAAAAa man i love that live version. after the solo he does a little feedback interlude where the sounds come from nowhere & says the words "existing, nothing but existing"... and of course the last song on side 1 is a live version of "Are you experienced" which is all feedback. i think hendrix key is the single coil pu's, use of fuzz and of course the power of his amps (loud!) i have seen the debates on guitar forums of marshall plexis-some say they are high gain, some say they are not (seems they are more loud & clean), which if you compare to the rise of distortion and heavy metal, when i listen to hendrix he really sounds clean and the articulation of notes is much clearer.... now compare this to the EVH solo on the "right here right now live dvd" from '93-there is a pt he turns to the amps to try to get feedback and boy it looks like he's having a hard time w/ the humbuckers in his then Ernie Ball music man guitar (always loved that guitar!) for my own experiments, w/ my small studio and effects setup (fender keyboard 60 amp), i've found the single coils give me better feedback and i did have an old guitar that had an epiphone humbucker in it, and it was very microphonic, i could get feedback from that! i it sounded good, i should have kept it!!!! but i will say that the overwound humbuckers i have in my ibanez/bc rich project guitar--i can't get any clean sounds, it's all distorted w/ it, but it won't feedback AT ALL. and the same w/ when i had a red lace sensor pu in an old project-no feedback w/ that either. of course the other GREAT TRICK is the feedback mic that was in my old main guitar project that unfortunately died on me in march. so now i'm trying to get my new project done so i can get the feedback mic up & running in a guitar again! miss that. it is based on the idea i got from the Teuffel Tesla guitar....most cool.....great idea, flip the switch, instant feedback w/ any amt of gain, if you run clean, it can sound sort of quasi-piezo/acoustic like at times..... oh well.... happy feedback.... s--- --005045029bf65b3acd04a1e81b88 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable well, as a guitarist i've always loved feedback sounds....i have read a= ll the theory's approaches that everyone has:
my examples-i was just= listening to THE JIMI HENDRIX CONCERTS album that i have ON CASSETTE...a l= ive compilation
that is no longer in print...the song "i don't live today"-WH= OOOOOAAAAAa man i love that live version. after the solo he
does a littl= e feedback interlude where the sounds come from nowhere & says the word= s "existing, nothing but existing"...
and of course the last song on side 1 is a live version of "Are you ex= perienced" which is all feedback.

i think hendrix key is the si= ngle coil pu's, use of fuzz and of course the power of his amps (loud!)=

i have seen the debates on guitar forums of marshall plexis-some say th= ey are high gain, some say they are not (seems they
are more loud & = clean), which if you compare to the rise of distortion and heavy metal, whe= n i listen to hendrix he really sounds
clean and the articulation of notes is much clearer....

now compare = this to the EVH solo on the "right here right now live dvd" from = '93-there is a pt he turns to the amps to try to get feedback
and bo= y it looks like he's having a hard time w/ the humbuckers in his then E= rnie Ball music man guitar (always loved that guitar!)

for my own experiments, w/ my small studio and effects setup (fender ke= yboard 60 amp), i've found the single coils give me better feedback
= and i did have an old guitar that had an epiphone humbucker in it, and it w= as very microphonic, i could get feedback from that! i it sounded
good, i should have kept it!!!!
but i will say that the overwound humbuc= kers i have in my ibanez/bc rich project guitar--i can't get any clean = sounds, it's all distorted w/ it,
but it won't feedback AT ALL. = and the same w/ when i had a red lace sensor pu in an old project-no feedba= ck w/ that either.

of course the other GREAT TRICK is the feedback mic that was in my old = main guitar project that unfortunately died on me in march.
so now i= 9;m trying to get my new project done so i can get the feedback mic up &= ; running in a guitar again! miss that.
it is based on the idea i got from the Teuffel Tesla guitar....most cool...= ..great idea, flip the switch, instant feedback w/ any amt of gain,
if y= ou run clean, it can sound sort of quasi-piezo/acoustic like at times.....<= br> oh well....
happy feedback....
s---
--005045029bf65b3acd04a1e81b88-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 27 15:53:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66A8218349D; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:53:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CC04F3.0DCEFFFC" Subject: New LP1 version 1.39 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:50:54 -0700 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73FF0D3D5@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: New LP1 version 1.39 Thread-Index: AcwE7+opDSrEGUP9TwirBkMur1aoRAAAvnzw References: From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Apr 2011 15:53:02.0857 (UTC) FILETIME=[30C34790:01CC04F3] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109224 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:53:04 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CC04F3.0DCEFFFC Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone been able to download the new version? I cant seem to get through = the gobbeldygook to get it to download. Andy o ------_=_NextPart_001_01CC04F3.0DCEFFFC Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=

Anyone been able to download the new version? I cant seem to get = through the gobbeldygook to get it to download.

=0A=

Andy o

------_=_NextPart_001_01CC04F3.0DCEFFFC-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 27 16:12:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9FAC318349D; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 16:12:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=7TaKfNXzD1V54HXXy3QEWhqCkRFI+3FmFfoXfpQ94ww=; b=sWfMTXBdpVwV0MOsomHfdMnHY44B3bUURe+ifcMfxhTWpGysh9TNFxFsBtSUxq6hDj vaRF+AZnmYpLy1O5r5fbN8JuWtqPIiTaX3Gxtv8iln81IgNYPtmNcy7Fs4NuPEzJSF8O A0XfUwpOasFQ4f8k6MUFzTuCnBpaXUNVH45Nk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=acBkXFIVj9LlnlNvdaWLS5FS0u8FmbK9/jgFAlr8RyEt+eOidLZgnE79PbGrLxNwB8 nkMqbEdSxomZbAsmtuucnI7wQ9m4ONgc/xLxqClA9u20ykGVRpPm8xqsv4doXdFN7N/M 3kB4wKDc4k5HDMJIRcb7qaWKa5daHy2j18d5Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:12:42 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: OT? Sustainiac for sale From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f33ea43fa7f04a1e8b63f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109225 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 16:12:50 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307f33ea43fa7f04a1e8b63f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I am selling my nearly new Sustainiac Model C with the optional Cord Routing System. $250 or make an offer. http://www.sustainiac.com/model-c.htm Replies off list please jeffloops@gmail.com Jeff --20cf307f33ea43fa7f04a1e8b63f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am selling my nearly new Sustainiac Model C with the optional Cord Routin= g System.
$250 or make an offer.

http://www.sustainiac.com/model-c.htm

Replies= off list please jeffloops@gmail.com=

Jeff
--20cf307f33ea43fa7f04a1e8b63f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 27 20:23:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D0F2183486; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 20:23:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 613556017/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.20.50/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.20.50 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnMCAIh6uE1YbRQy/2dsb2JhbAAMmDbTFYV2BJJViik X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.64,276,1301871600"; d="scan'208";a="613556017" Message-ID: <4DB87B2F.3030707@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 21:23:11 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New LP1 version 1.39 References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73FF0D3D5@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73FF0D3D5@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109226 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 20:23:10 +0000 (UTC) Yep, just downloaded. LP1 software version 1.39 seems pretty good. To download, right click the link (LP1 Forum) and select "Save As". (as the file has a .txt extension browsers will try to display if as text) Can also just plug the LP1 into your router for online update. andy butler Andy Owens wrote: > Anyone been able to download the new version? I cant seem to get through > the gobbeldygook to get it to download. > > Andy o > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 28 00:50:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B37C18349F; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 00:50:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=w6wCuwa2c+Yx2b2sMVtwJg8wZIdK8Q0u7wWaVEuObe4=; b=AxCdZ3u5NV+GJGhfEGdGWRKZYZs10ioOc93otlC92DNHYAFNb0HCXP1oUlIPNgMbRG yhGMeFOQjmEvttfGfYF3sfoTDou5NitBkAvguaV/pP0RMUgm9ecxTHya2T+0TW8fxa5r ayuzXde19uHKxDit3bGmgPknIcUm8HO2uj3WA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HsctTBZB1lG+c25sLCzVquFIQIbvJWeZ7iXfSEzLSOB2ri4ie1vEy6XCG7AMXK4BFW 1IR+G4ORX2cSMRHaoP0n9WeW8PGbCzQ6Vl29WaJZc9JyboJjQ8rLsjd2Hq7mFNO5bFUA I8OmovBMDwQ9e93orSLHBV2R6HkeLLxiq6VXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:50:34 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT? Sustainiac for sale From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109227 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 00:50:36 +0000 (UTC) Jeff, Would you take a VG-8 in trade? :) ...just askin' ... Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > I am selling my nearly new Sustainiac Model C with the optional Cord Routing > System. > $250 or make an offer. > > http://www.sustainiac.com/model-c.htm > > Replies off list please jeffloops@gmail.com > > Jeff > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 28 02:20:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1BE61183486; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 02:20:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GCskVsY81sdahH3mtUyBGwV/ZMdIClv+RPwf8qDOOys=; b=BFgBiazbiG0Gox73SxM5vhJwV6okmxvUDWDMCk0cDFXRHzRQ/R/cp6Pr9YSEELYGob 2DgEBWW5cjhzSvPEaLqh1HubsbizQmLH0WjxYKiCkIE3PUYd1Ycn8lhWwU+Yryiw/n7S JRwILWuIyY+iafLpsj30jK2nCgows+4cAyjs0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=V+LJRmVgw7hradymwXvB1OirOv45NARBkb8/5FI6WaAh4zBsO5UgIzV9ebzGEpd8Tv NEmEb8FpA7uS8UoCqGl3BCteA5zTsMIeFLWNZfmo3ecqTlFhTRsDmafbKACCeH63K7LO SeA10dYTfAoDlg5uKX4nLQZ3A06bGHNgdJjRg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 22:20:11 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT? Sustainiac for sale From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3026702e60bc6a04a1f13217 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109228 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 02:20:12 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3026702e60bc6a04a1f13217 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sorry Dennis, sounds interesting but it's been sold and quickly. I really needed cash right now anyway :) Jeff On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Dennis Moser wrote: > Jeff, > > Would you take a VG-8 in trade? :) ...just askin' ... > > Dennis > > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > > I am selling my nearly new Sustainiac Model C with the optional Cord > Routing > > System. > > $250 or make an offer. > > > > http://www.sustainiac.com/model-c.htm > > > > Replies off list please jeffloops@gmail.com > > > > Jeff > > > > --20cf3026702e60bc6a04a1f13217 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry Dennis, sounds interesting but it's been sold and quickly. I real= ly needed cash right now anyway :)

Jeff

On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Dennis Moser <<= a href=3D"mailto:sinsofmachaut@gmail.com">sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:
Jeff,

Would you take a VG-8 in trade? :) ...just askin' ...

Dennis

http://soundclo= ud.com/usrsbin
http://audiozoloft.com=
http://usrsla= shsbin.angrek.com/



On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am selling my nearly new Sustainiac Model C with the optional Cord R= outing
> System.
> $250 or make an offer.
>
> ht= tp://www.sustainiac.com/model-c.htm
>
> Replies off list please jeffloo= ps@gmail.com
>
> Jeff
>


--20cf3026702e60bc6a04a1f13217-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 28 03:27:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5197B183486; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 03:27:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=w/3C/YbkYQ6g01I9ICj5a+SpMkM7TBW7wkJ/cCUCLq8=; b=ggMcNRzs4VHm7SzYeOyFJ/z969VAcGBLNU9Vk4nz0UptpSOM8MYD4vuyQp1rVB9pUp boaym35EvwSn6xQ6OL5PIvDDX/pjaFUi+eeYR5IMXoV/81O7O/y21oOoxelwQsE38cnB S1rgsAF9fE/3RdQfz5h+Ijh1qVK3H81CY9TTg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=XPa+LqWSfoyTOlI3XJ8unRTCkFg/QolfJPR0tOZBFXivhm44HlpV/6QtTHggxAfPQX 0DeUkRkI9/F3tAALPGC+YbHEX9yCI7bWKyLAR3QWEGnNWv2v7iBUVqSsx2yZo6f/DcEp 0keWG8BjblF2IjpvaQPUfm6PI9mlOf2kIfuIw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 21:27:18 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT? Sustainiac for sale From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109229 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 03:27:20 +0000 (UTC) WOW! Outstanding! :P Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Sorry Dennis, sounds interesting but it's been sold and quickly. I really > needed cash right now anyway :) > > Jeff > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Dennis Moser > wrote: >> >> Jeff, >> >> Would you take a VG-8 in trade? :) ...just askin' ... >> >> Dennis >> >> http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin >> http://audiozoloft.com >> http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: >> > I am selling my nearly new Sustainiac Model C with the optional Cord >> > Routing >> > System. >> > $250 or make an offer. >> > >> > http://www.sustainiac.com/model-c.htm >> > >> > Replies off list please jeffloops@gmail.com >> > >> > Jeff >> > >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 28 03:29:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0C3118349F; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 03:29:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nB0WK9iMZHfaW4P5l4PGKx5PMuISM0buxcqX5XFwKmM=; b=V9inTaN30XXVvUZgmX+T/Gi3rLwnJ0gobc/q9YSWhcvbZFIVIGfArTUSOrhwE+RKm6 2BBv+ANrb0AXT1P3XlaVA+DHk2yVhdAyhz7hphfSnNXgz9Qh3JJe9AKEurwbz2n2k0tL +q0wCUWgdQRkwBHBLoBVs0GfuY03C0CtUKGY0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=sdAEUpWCaQXASCnqBuCZpGytrlF8AHpNf/hdEaptjXAHUksNeCJ/PJbpmUz7gLtHME Qep4ATgJipzc0K5rb72Oh4ue0kBVEdVEOb/4seKxGGAG0sbphF1e3ETaRLn7nhUsdodM g4qa9PYB8Gsrh7e40fN5mIe1tsC2y+E2jRrq0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DB87B2F.3030707@tiscali.co.uk> References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73FF0D3D5@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <4DB87B2F.3030707@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 21:29:03 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New LP1 version 1.39 From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364c7653b36f3804a1f228cd Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109230 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 03:29:05 +0000 (UTC) --0016364c7653b36f3804a1f228cd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I just noticed on the website that LP1's are out of stock. Are they still in production? http://www.looperlative.com/products.php?cat=7 --0016364c7653b36f3804a1f228cd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just noticed on the website that LP1's are out of stock. =A0Are they = still in production?=A0 --0016364c7653b36f3804a1f228cd-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 28 04:33:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2484018349F; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 04:33:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=zT32gw4XWG/HYUF/pS+odyTVJr1LAjkQTxcfwF6Ak4s=; b=KBBPiz3JKlJaX/5xMap+ZTKnW9cBXM1FsWuCgE+4G5CJCrnIkhSFZJVmD0hAgPH1iO GsxUxOhHakW3tiJhPcv6I4OGGXlzy7xOZ7Jgn2bvz/BgQNe2wrJe2a6qhbJOTu2ZFrIh ZKvXgkyPDR8EZeoLYOb2HbwXKa5tX60nCTIFw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Mfdlvn8lH3km6y4vH7pg/OAFpEFVj7MPFruTYmlzai6Ui5YHiZlGAK5LEeR+n905al hRJBEy6jGxke5zggoW4cc63H2a+UJViTIbbnr61CZIlA079kOiPaqdY2Q2FTKjf071Zw LYLgmOQ6BFfHBlPp0PwaurBw/qX72VZDMKX2I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 00:33:20 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: G.E. Stinson Live now From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e0cb4e43ada79afb7504a1f30e96 Resent-Message-ID: <6GRBn.A.PGG.T4OuNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109231 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 04:33:23 +0000 (UTC) --e0cb4e43ada79afb7504a1f30e96 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Must see! http://laartstream.com/artstream-live/ j --e0cb4e43ada79afb7504a1f30e96 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Must see! http://laartstream.com/artstream-live/

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--e0cb4e43ada79afb7504a1f30e96-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 28 12:18:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E25E318349D; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 12:18:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer :in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version; bh=hQNmdVwH/yjS7lsmkL1W7ptFBGPuVqz+6h5ciAI6qaQ=; b=I9BYy49X6CfYHSdqksAq1imtQWKWT2VmqzD3bpO/ECVrx9zYf4pKy9O2fXwH8zXuEu mkNKOtbz3WlGcsKZmANVuHQAT6m8lD7RjgS7dLuBhgi8/HPcs/siTGryybgkkkBAYcCu 3zmTnvuSjMEoedDX9a3c01elnyZL3vgXKvdD4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; b=akcvDT0fx3lwvaYeivjuJ3gaWmGZ084aTk/Mmsr7N8rHC+ZuTOzSNyKLc4HKSxTlSx /EQru8kSN4uyaZtSAgTq2DDESqjW61K7BycZwEBovnVXBalF5Ehk/5AkvkLC2VHRWfNj pX9ervlL1vhZMss/fsTtJTCA6g1ghpZQgvsLs= Subject: Re: G.E. Stinson Live now References: From: Jimgoodinmusic Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--731664727 X-Mailer: iPod Mail (8C148) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 08:17:27 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 8C148) Resent-Message-ID: <3cdtfD.A.LRE.-rVuNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109232 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 12:18:06 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--731664727 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This was really great. Thanks for pointing this out Jeff. Remember he was m= esmerizing to experience when Daryl and I were fortunate to get to do a Chim= apainting shared bill with him 2 years ago. Very inventive guy. Jim On Apr 28, 2011, at 12:33 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Must see! http://laartstream.com/artstream-live/ >=20 > j --Apple-Mail-1--731664727 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
This was really great. Thanks for pointing this out Jeff.  Remember he was mesmerizing to experience when Daryl and I were fortunate to get to do a Chimapainting shared bill with him 2 years ago.  Very inventive guy.

Jim

On Apr 28, 2011, at 12:33 AM, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com> wrote:

--Apple-Mail-1--731664727-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 28 12:24:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC0A41834A0; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 12:24:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=m3IoQw0NTNrWZTWIO2ilH562YAPVHmhurhSey6+L6Jk=; b=Uz2HRfPvMWq8y6zk3O2O1YNAUwatHQdBzmwM2jRiUfZBGhD7ztcSlkxIXCl2Mlyhya AvF/3pe6KRq/YFlyUeyJf6v3LsF4NNAJ920InWSUS3m/7Q1tZ0J5RID2f7e2TUihj7Tj xUf4N8Ov0mGmn3NC3J8JvGNuqTmvNefcsr0r0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=kFiBfFXG4CUSufJckx/sbATiHOs4O+00Tk518NYiuCkKu+NETf+4ICd90zF0XElYO8 ztFvpRvzp4AZouMU68wdv8bSdA+ZtvCGHZ5BzOsxabgtOH/ymMYr9ec3vYmuWjd9fFDo 5kXvTGg6vNIQJutGwOqBfocq46fgeiMxCvsAk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: todd reynolds Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 08:23:45 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: G.E. Stinson Live now To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747bdf815dcb304a1f9a218 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109233 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 12:24:06 +0000 (UTC) --00151747bdf815dcb304a1f9a218 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable damn, missed it. archived anywhere? On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Jimgoodinmusic w= rote: > This was really great. Thanks for pointing this out Jeff. Remember he wa= s > mesmerizing to experience when Daryl and I were fortunate to get to do a > Chimapainting shared bill with him 2 years ago. Very inventive guy. > > Jim > > > On Apr 28, 2011, at 12:33 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > > Must see! > http://laartstream.com/artstream-live/ > > j > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 Outerborough, my debut double CD set is now available on iTunes, and street date is set for March 29th. You can check out the INNOVA Recordings Artist Page here: http://innova.mu/artist1.asp?skuID=3D449 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --00151747bdf815dcb304a1f9a218 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable damn, =A0missed it. =A0archived anywhere?

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Jimgoodinmusic <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
This was real= ly great. Thanks for pointing this out Jeff. =A0Remember he was mesmerizing= to experience when Daryl and I were fortunate to get to do a Chimapainting= shared bill with him 2 years ago. =A0Very inventive guy.

Jim


On Apr 28, 2011, at 12:33 = AM, Jeff Duke <= jeffloops@gmail.com> wrote:



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=95 Outerborough, my debut do= uble CD set is now available on iTunes, and street date is set for March 29= th. You can check out the INNOVA Recordings Artist Page here:

http://innova.mu/artist1.asp?skuID=3D449

--00151747bdf815dcb304a1f9a218-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 28 13:34:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 863F818349C; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 13:34:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=LG388EjIwmnRE/vJMJE0apjUdCKzeapOUwUcQ6XFns4= c=1 sm=1 a=Zq2FpVYgtBoA:10 a=pR7G0VqH70cA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=5r4WfH5DhWOvYH0zPWoQZw==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=TZaDbsVpxUZ0swcptKwA:9 a=dYSr2h_x6h-Y7ccePaMA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=5r4WfH5DhWOvYH0zPWoQZw==:117 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 06:34:20 -0700 Subject: Re: portable PA for electronic looper From: Richard Atkinson To: LOOPERS DELIGHT LIST Message-ID: Thread-Topic: portable PA for electronic looper Thread-Index: AcwFqPpdOPn1QnGcEeCg1wAWy4YwYQ== In-Reply-To: <7156cc88.17e5dd.12f8dbde9dd.Webtop.43@charter.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109234 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 13:34:22 +0000 (UTC) My wife has been hankering for quite some time for a very small output device to play music while teaching class. She teaches at several colleges in the SoCal area, teaching a wide variety of dance and movement oriented classes. Although there is often a PA system in the classroom, sometimes there's not, and she needs to bring something along. She's gone through several iterations of 'boom boxes' and has always struggled for something small, lightweight, portable, sounds good, and is able to take some abuse while being packed and moved. And she's a major Techophobe, so it has to be simple and direct. We've been migrating her away from CD's to the iPod over the last couple of years, which has allowed her to carry fewer binders full of discs. Now that she just has a 1/8" mini jack to contend with....what to connect it to? Due to this dilemma, and the recent input from this thread, I went yesterday and bought two items. #1 was the Roland Cube Street, the battery powered 'busker' type unit, and the more straightforward Roland CM-30 'monitor'. I've been looking at the Cube Street for some time, and the CM-30 I saw mentioned here. I was going to try both and return the one I didn't want....or both...for that matter, if we weren't happy with either. WOW. The CM-30 absolutely CRANKS. Although the Cube Street is interesting for battery operation, we don't really need the amp modelling, and there's no master volume or eq for the mini jack input (you have to control it from the iPod). And it didn't hold a candle to the CM-30, sound wise. On the CM-30, you get 3 channels, one of which has a mic/xlr input, which she will plug in here wireless headset receiver. One of two Aux ins (RCA and 1/8") will take her iPod input. There is a global bass and treble EQ and a master volume to control the 3 input channels and the two Aux in channels. With mixed program material coming from the iPod, being played mono through this system, it was incredibly clear, punchy and LOUD! Earlier in the day, I plugged in my pedalboard into it and got really satisfactory results for guitar tone and drum machine sounds. Since the CM-30 can stereo 'link' to another unit, I can't see how this wouldn't be a kick ass solution for anyone wanting a big, full sound. If you were using a mixer to send sound, two of these things with the XLR inputs would be great for sending a balanced signal to each CM-30. You'd have a 60 watt mini PA in the size of two lunchboxes. Seriously, this thing bumps. Let the honeymoon begin. Rich On 4/25/11 10:38 AM, "thetoyroom@charter.net" wrote: > From my limited research a while back, the inexpensive portable PA > setups are coming from Fender (Passport), Yamaha (Stagepass) and Peavey > (Escort). I found a used Peavey Escort locally on Craigslist, the 150 > watt model. I don't think they make it anymore, but make a very similar > format in 300watts. > > Honestly, I dig the little thing. I've gotten compliments on sound a > couple of times, using it for a couple of house parties, and also for a > gig for my wife's dance company. It is suitable for 50-75 people, i > would guess. > > Likes: > Good sound. > > Onboard reverb, which sounds decent to add a bit of air/space to the > sound. > > It likes modeller pedals pretty well. I'm running my Tech 21 'Blonde' > into it for guitar, and a Tech 21 Bass Driver for Bass. It 'feels' > pretty good for amp-like response, and it means i can switch out from > Guitar to Bass whilst looping...all through the same output. > > Dislikes: > In its original packaging, where the speakers/power output all lock > together and become rollable, it's a bit heavy. I've since removed the > power/mixer section from the 'base' and just carry that in a carrying > case, and the speakers I carry seperately. they are very light. > > No pans on the mono input channels. There are two stereo in options, > however, so you could submix a stereo feed or two into this unit. I'm > planning on submixing a summer party gig at my place with an Allen+Heath > Zed12fx and send the stereo feed to the Peavey for output. > > > > It's definitely not Pro level stuff, but it's worked pretty good for my > uses so far. > > > Rich > > > > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > >> just wondering what you use if you want to play in a club or gallery >> which >> doesn't have a PA and you have to bring your own, and you don't want >> to use >> guitar combos but something clean - the stuff that I do does come from >> the >> guitar but goes through laptop and plugins and has more the spectrum >> of >> keyboard music, with possibly lots of dynamics and bass. A friend uses >> a >> pair of Rokit studio monitors for his ambient music but another friend >> said >> these are not suitable for more dynamic music, and I should get a >> small PA >> instead. No idea what kind of product would be suitable but it should >> be >> lightweight, small, and not terribly expensive. Ideas anyone? >> >> -Michael > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 28 14:23:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2167F183486; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 14:23:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7oZ0KpSwBB/MT+6g7BLaOAWEzSnfVtKOfWx33e6OJlY=; b=JNhLpvdpHqBi87bZg1gZMoCZeQTx2L+8E8CbYwbItsbcX20jHzazeJjDJ+lJDpsTIP dZM+CxBd0E4q295F8HRMHWmUtqcNVFJABhBD8diE0vnKpdmqRpuyDGb9HZwiBuug8fJZ ye94JPvCBnsMV3RXo4ve2q1l05Eztm7k2fG0o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=p3R59MvQELhJ0wT634K5fTOCkGlRqnp5aqrVMA9SmydQazf8gHZaZjPMtsWeXGk8Fs 1w164lxxyVxblM7N49iajiwzwKk3Ilhbv23J1QZ1CLu8IdDYBPKu45h1HD6OmzxGxCFO mNflf8UA9YaxAaKiVflxr3zpOiw6WdTNktJV8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7156cc88.17e5dd.12f8dbde9dd.Webtop.43@charter.net> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:23:13 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: portable PA for electronic looper From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109235 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 14:23:14 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Richard Atkinson wrote: > Since the > CM-30 can stereo 'link' to another unit, I can't see how this wouldn't be= a > kick ass solution for anyone wanting a big, full sound. =C2=A0If you were= using a > mixer to send sound, two of these things with the XLR inputs would be gre= at > for sending a balanced signal to each CM-30. =C2=A0You'd have a 60 watt m= ini PA > in the size of two lunchboxes. That's a neat idea, Rich! Maybe one could even expand it into two "towers" of two CM-30's for each left/right channel? I wonder how it handles high fidelity material and deep bass, like a bass guitar? Did you see if there is any extra output where one might send to an extra bass unit? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 28 14:28:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07C2718349D; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 14:28:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mpIF3qzV0vVQNPea5ICtwGcbNUIPppPGsleu+y1O7UU=; b=PEPKeUcLyhbpG8g0p6sN3AFISZqTQgwOx+bzqs6C7wigYguC4yD/Sh8u6LAdHRBJhG mmLcQIJP1THSaRlK+mLDH8f7iNMh5TW07yMQqeA+gupZ6zXceNU1ITrFhbz3ldHo8fWf jo8r2lwQbEnv9+OwPJj+vACWdNugUOIXgRQHU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=Y6lwekIR46utfH5eXY0kcnOh7LdONChJkIRZeMu/BClHs7AD0zNoAAqk2q86FMv4Og DBiy1VAfEMbwgmydo/5wFbflEYdlIJYCZU9mDITvNqMiwAMaDljjRfZI54DDKrG5nMrC k5Y5merQbfuw6AzbqU2o8+rE/Gxw/6N/+i1Ug= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <7156cc88.17e5dd.12f8dbde9dd.Webtop.43@charter.net> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 15:28:38 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: portable PA for electronic looper From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd5c66e8f901204a1fb5fc9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109236 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 14:28:40 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd5c66e8f901204a1fb5fc9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i've been looking at some review and nobody seems to have a bad word to say about these CM-30's. with the addition of a small sub (like the samson resolv) i think you'd have a pretty nice system. i'm looking for a small full range system to use with my axe-fx for tiny gigs and rehearsals, so i think i'd like to try some of these out! On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Richard Atkinson > wrote: > > Since the > > CM-30 can stereo 'link' to another unit, I can't see how this wouldn't be > a > > kick ass solution for anyone wanting a big, full sound. If you were > using a > > mixer to send sound, two of these things with the XLR inputs would be > great > > for sending a balanced signal to each CM-30. You'd have a 60 watt mini > PA > > in the size of two lunchboxes. > > That's a neat idea, Rich! Maybe one could even expand it into two > "towers" of two CM-30's for each left/right channel? I wonder how it > handles high fidelity material and deep bass, like a bass guitar? Did > you see if there is any extra output where one might send to an extra > bass unit? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > --000e0cd5c66e8f901204a1fb5fc9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i've been looking at some review and nobody seems to have a bad word to= say about these CM-30's. with the addition of a small sub (like the sa= mson resolv) i think you'd have a pretty nice system. i'm looking f= or a small full range system to use with my axe-fx for tiny gigs and rehear= sals, so i think i'd like to try some of these out!

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Per Boysen = <perboysen@gmai= l.com> wrote:
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Richard Atkinson
<thetoyroom@charter.net>= ; wrote:
> Since the
> CM-30 can stereo 'link' to another unit, I can't see how t= his wouldn't be a
> kick ass solution for anyone wanting a big, full sound. =A0If you were= using a
> mixer to send sound, two of these things with the XLR inputs would be = great
> for sending a balanced signal to each CM-30. =A0You'd have a 60 wa= tt mini PA
> in the size of two lunchboxes.

That's a neat idea, Rich! Maybe one could even expand it into two=
"towers" of two CM-30's for each left/right channel? I wonder= how it
handles high fidelity material and deep bass, like a bass guitar? Did
you see if there is any extra output where one might send to an extra
bass unit?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub


--000e0cd5c66e8f901204a1fb5fc9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 28 14:43:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A400183453; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 14:43:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=LwmIxLjO2kjOOdyWUz9sJSDrLr6jnozSejla23thMlw=; b=x7SCIXXzeSfYeF7jcVHjM9lUMTB+1PlrbPS7K6JN+FbV4qaDliv0MGzjMxOcojAfkA l1Lsqq5F6SjU4+ISO5s6M0Cmdipjp5OXD4MF+J6ASMip0Z34NRGKEmGrwYLAYselRcHw bf/JG+UyPFliy8FSjpMfiXW/BDGQgHy/6gHI0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xHU/WgIRT+Fq9AQQJVN95HOrkIwOOI4m7ovg0IgsGHzZ124feg2JtiCaPAFwCx5xOM aA+7bIsD0Willy3swAoTsmTtgs7U+le7fmgKR34KRcUSHQECC53ofLyB2Tm47LhNmQDf r+8L0T3dzwQVlpwXkj5p8Fd+9SPdGmbMuqPVk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7156cc88.17e5dd.12f8dbde9dd.Webtop.43@charter.net> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:43:10 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: portable PA for electronic looper From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109237 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 14:43:11 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > i've been looking at some review and nobody seems to have a bad word to say > about these CM-30's. with the addition of a small sub (like the samson > resolv) i think you'd have a pretty nice system. i'm looking for a small > full range system to use with my axe-fx for tiny gigs and rehearsals, so i > think i'd like to try some of these out! Excellent! Please keep us in the loop, Sim! I might be needing a small gig setup for cranking the stereo STick guitar laptop rig in a duo where a vocalist already sings through a Bose. A good bass response is essential for this accompaniment. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 28 14:52:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DABE318349D; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 14:52:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: New LP1 version 1.39 References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73FF0D3D5@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <4DB87B2F.3030707@tiscali.co.uk> From: "Andy Owens" Thread-Topic: New LP1 version 1.39 Thread-Index: AcwFs9fHUmdrAXmiSIGcQovPUrN8KQ== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <4DB87B2F.3030707@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <5CFECDBA-0F84-4562-B374-D36A9E6365DF@1800dialword.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 10:51:58 -0400 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8F190) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Apr 2011 14:52:33.0046 (UTC) FILETIME=[E7A3D360:01CC05B3] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109238 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 14:52:34 +0000 (UTC) Thanks, what test failed? On Apr 27, 2011, at 4:23 PM, "andy butler" wrote: > Yep, just downloaded. > LP1 software version 1.39 seems pretty good. >=20 > To download, right click the link (LP1 Forum) > and select "Save As". > (as the file has a .txt extension browsers will try to display if as text= ) >=20 > Can also just plug the LP1 into your router > for online update. >=20 > andy butler >=20 >=20 > Andy Owens wrote: >> Anyone been able to download the new version? I cant seem to get through t= he gobbeldygook to get it to download. >> Andy o >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 28 16:01:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20D1618349D; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:01:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 603884673/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.26.167/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.26.167 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: An8CAPaNuU1YbRqn/2dsb2JhbAAMmEXRV4V2BJJiigQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.64,281,1301871600"; d="scan'208";a="603884673" Message-ID: <4DB98F4D.1020905@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 17:01:17 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New LP1 version 1.39 References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73FF0D3D5@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <4DB87B2F.3030707@tiscali.co.uk> <5CFECDBA-0F84-4562-B374-D36A9E6365DF@1800dialword.com> In-Reply-To: <5CFECDBA-0F84-4562-B374-D36A9E6365DF@1800dialword.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109239 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:01:14 +0000 (UTC) v1.39 passed all tests so far. No problem recording 8 loops. ...and I didn't manage to crash it yet. andy Andy Owens wrote: > Thanks, what test failed? > > > > On Apr 27, 2011, at 4:23 PM, "andy butler" wrote: > >> Yep, just downloaded. >> LP1 software version 1.39 seems pretty good. >> >> To download, right click the link (LP1 Forum) >> and select "Save As". >> (as the file has a .txt extension browsers will try to display if as text) >> >> Can also just plug the LP1 into your router >> for online update. >> >> andy butler >> >> >> Andy Owens wrote: >>> Anyone been able to download the new version? I cant seem to get through the gobbeldygook to get it to download. >>> Andy o > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 28 16:07:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 72BA318349F; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:07:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=LG388EjIwmnRE/vJMJE0apjUdCKzeapOUwUcQ6XFns4= c=1 sm=1 a=1GmvzaAlhisA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=pR7G0VqH70cA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=1mPEbzcIwNq/5QazqZV7BA==:17 a=8iF-8YkxAAAA:8 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=rKE6PlrihBJCZX6zlo0A:9 a=5tumH42YY5WKtLnVYPgA:7 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=1mPEbzcIwNq/5QazqZV7BA==:117 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 12:07:39 -0400 (EDT) From: thetoyroom@charter.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <7752abb0.1a56d4.12f9cdd9983.Webtop.43@charter.net> Subject: Re: portable PA for electronic looper MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 43 X-Originating-IP: [12.195.92.82] Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109240 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:07:39 +0000 (UTC) The back image for the CM-30 is here: http://www.musiciansbuy.com/mmMBCOM/images/Roland/Roland_cm30_back.jpg as you can see, there is a stereo link 'send' and 'in' on this unit, and per the manual, you 'send' whichever signal (say...the Left Channel) to the 'in' of the other unit, and then the Right channel of the second unit comes back to the 'in' of the first unit, creating the stereo link. What this acheives is that you now have 6 inputs available (plus 4 auxes, i guess), all pumping out in stereo. I haven't tried 'sending' any material without using the 'in'. I don't know if by 'sending', it mutes that channel out of the existing audio. If it doesn't, then you do essentially have a 'line out' to repurpose. For me, it would be more viable to submix whatever material i was doing and just send XLR leads to each CM-30, so they are merely acting as powered monitors. The balanced signal would allow long cable runs, low noise, and the monitors could be placed freely, with no linkage between them. When running my guitar rig through the CM-30, with very little time for tweaking, I got a very good sound...Bass response wasn't spectacular, but very reasonable for such a small unit. Guitar Rig: EB Volume > Bad Monkey OD > Line 6 M9 > Tech 21 Blonde > Boomerang III (L) > CM-30 Channel 2 Drums: Korg Electribe ES-1 > Boomerang III (R) > CM-30 Channel 3 I'll try running my bass/bass preamp through it this weekend. For my studio/mixing setup, I use an M-Audio SBX10 subwoofer. It takes the L/R signal direct from the mixer, and you connect your satellite monitors to the sub. It has an internal adjustable crossover to split the sub frequencies from the rest of the material, only sending the upper frequencies to the satellite monitors. Something like this would be killer with a pair of CM-30's and take the brunt of bass work off those little drivers. I wouldn't want to transport that sub, for me, since it's more of a studio unit. I'm sure they have suitable subwoofers for live setups? That being said, with the mixed program material coming from my wife's iPod we tried last night, bass response was darn good, and that was in mono using a single CM-30. Just testing it out, it would be loud enough to piss off the neighbors if you cranked it. On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 7:43 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Simeon Harris > wrote: >> i've been looking at some review and nobody seems to have a bad word >> to say >> about these CM-30's. with the addition of a small sub (like the >> samson >> resolv) i think you'd have a pretty nice system. i'm looking for a >> small >> full range system to use with my axe-fx for tiny gigs and rehearsals, >> so i >> think i'd like to try some of these out! > > > Excellent! Please keep us in the loop, Sim! > > I might be needing a small gig setup for cranking the stereo STick > guitar laptop rig in a duo where a vocalist already sings through a > Bose. A good bass response is essential for this accompaniment. > > Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 28 16:11:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 288391834A0; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:11:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=ODlycGuxTC0euRxP+1AGgmCDMSG2UwAH9/v2n31T6S0=; b=UQ3QSImiId6e/HKNiX3tFqRV1l9E5Dp54KHJoyA/ekfi29SRw/MnSnlcbyiDLOZHyK KkbbhAnwQ5ZyK1WAYuTJ0YAu+XISR/FTrYRaA6WK56I6AlKd3DIQ7DwGz7fhiTqKIDDH wuUZQpQrN342GLSHpFh9mCL6GttHo6+Pj1e/A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=MlCfemVn8wbTdjedjrpKRzFlfQx0tzFWlJYX2HGFiI13RRV2fJdxIS+eWkrUsM7y6w Ow8rketC51lFTlfs5P83nB353M2NaqujsNz3GlehT/oZ0w/QwVQ1N77yTcFqgfs5/d9V bgugvIickXkbf7xnjf4L6277viHY3YKNBLQqI= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: portable PA for electronic looper From: Christopher Darrow In-Reply-To: <7752abb0.1a56d4.12f9cdd9983.Webtop.43@charter.net> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 09:16:18 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <7752abb0.1a56d4.12f9cdd9983.Webtop.43@charter.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109241 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:11:53 +0000 (UTC) I've used a pair of the old ones for some time and they are fantastic... = plus, unbelievable battery life.=20 As for bass response, I know they have a bass cube too. I haven't heard = it myself yet but one would think it would be better. I've wondered what = one of each would sound like. Perhaps they will do a new bass cube too?=20= On Apr 28, 2011, at 9:07 AM, thetoyroom@charter.net wrote: > The back image for the CM-30 is here: >=20 > http://www.musiciansbuy.com/mmMBCOM/images/Roland/Roland_cm30_back.jpg >=20 > as you can see, there is a stereo link 'send' and 'in' on this unit, = and per the manual, you 'send' whichever signal (say...the Left Channel) = to the 'in' of the other unit, and then the Right channel of the second = unit comes back to the 'in' of the first unit, creating the stereo link. = What this acheives is that you now have 6 inputs available (plus 4 = auxes, i guess), all pumping out in stereo. I haven't tried 'sending' = any material without using the 'in'. I don't know if by 'sending', it = mutes that channel out of the existing audio. If it doesn't, then you = do essentially have a 'line out' to repurpose. >=20 > For me, it would be more viable to submix whatever material i was = doing and just send XLR leads to each CM-30, so they are merely acting = as powered monitors. The balanced signal would allow long cable runs, = low noise, and the monitors could be placed freely, with no linkage = between them. >=20 > When running my guitar rig through the CM-30, with very little time = for tweaking, I got a very good sound...Bass response wasn't = spectacular, but very reasonable for such a small unit. >=20 > Guitar Rig: EB Volume > Bad Monkey OD > Line 6 M9 > Tech 21 Blonde > = Boomerang III (L) > CM-30 Channel 2 > Drums: Korg Electribe ES-1 > Boomerang III (R) > CM-30 Channel 3 >=20 > I'll try running my bass/bass preamp through it this weekend. >=20 > For my studio/mixing setup, I use an M-Audio SBX10 subwoofer. It = takes the L/R signal direct from the mixer, and you connect your = satellite monitors to the sub. It has an internal adjustable crossover = to split the sub frequencies from the rest of the material, only sending = the upper frequencies to the satellite monitors. >=20 > Something like this would be killer with a pair of CM-30's and take = the brunt of bass work off those little drivers. I wouldn't want to = transport that sub, for me, since it's more of a studio unit. I'm sure = they have suitable subwoofers for live setups? >=20 > That being said, with the mixed program material coming from my wife's = iPod we tried last night, bass response was darn good, and that was in = mono using a single CM-30. Just testing it out, it would be loud enough = to piss off the neighbors if you cranked it. >=20 >=20 > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 7:43 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >=20 >> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Simeon Harris >> wrote: >>> i've been looking at some review and nobody seems to have a bad word = to say >>> about these CM-30's. with the addition of a small sub (like the = samson >>> resolv) i think you'd have a pretty nice system. i'm looking for a = small >>> full range system to use with my axe-fx for tiny gigs and = rehearsals, so i >>> think i'd like to try some of these out! >>=20 >>=20 >> Excellent! Please keep us in the loop, Sim! >>=20 >> I might be needing a small gig setup for cranking the stereo STick >> guitar laptop rig in a duo where a vocalist already sings through a >> Bose. A good bass response is essential for this accompaniment. >>=20 >> Per >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 28 16:17:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 659D418349D; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:17:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=zUqQ2eogioz8lh+3uqjRe4Y1MWSUJU+U3b3PFzAwX18= c=1 sm=1 a=1GmvzaAlhisA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=pR7G0VqH70cA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=1mPEbzcIwNq/5QazqZV7BA==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=paUis6ZMAAAA:8 a=dMZfGW12AAAA:8 a=8h2tVM2zAAAA:8 a=6i-qKGRb_UC64yiByjMA:9 a=M2KRR-9nnm-hJHHO8b4A:7 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=1mPEbzcIwNq/5QazqZV7BA==:117 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 12:17:33 -0400 (EDT) From: thetoyroom@charter.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <52c0521a.1a58bf.12f9ce6acda.Webtop.43@charter.net> Subject: Re: portable PA for electronic looper MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 43 X-Originating-IP: [12.195.92.82] Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109242 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:17:34 +0000 (UTC) Per, again...if you were submixing the material and sending each channel to=20 it's respective CM-30, and then you used the 'send' from each to another=20 one, but on the same channel, then....YES, you could theoretically=20 create a little stack of two for Left and a stack of two for Right. I bet it would sound terrific. for the $700 - $800 it's going to cost=20 you, however, there might be more viable powered monitor solutions? On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 7:23 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Richard Atkinson > wrote: >> Since the >> CM-30 can stereo 'link' to another unit, I can't see how this=20 >> wouldn't be a >> kick ass solution for anyone wanting a big, full sound. =C2=A0If you wer= e=20 >> using a >> mixer to send sound, two of these things with the XLR inputs would be=20 >> great >> for sending a balanced signal to each CM-30. =C2=A0You'd have a 60 watt= =20 >> mini PA >> in the size of two lunchboxes. > > That's a neat idea, Rich! Maybe one could even expand it into two > "towers" of two CM-30's for each left/right channel? I wonder how it > handles high fidelity material and deep bass, like a bass guitar? Did > you see if there is any extra output where one might send to an extra > bass unit? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 28 16:24:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E447183486; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:24:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tYXeUvi7nyQ8xIm40LI77s7Q0asd1kFR9QFIjZ0EvwA=; b=Rz2IN1grvzINqmTiQPYZkXkvSAqIHS+ZjARmvu7BsV1u2+oRaWAG8hFaqb8qvk1taN W9HLfsepFIFHdTsmnQtJbHKdon0oTbX7Z+ODSChGOTgLI4VL4sL02ZH/8ecVTFzMNLS/ Bl2oJxrARGV2MlFOedMyoyWC/QSZqZTSgppvY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ivflo1d1PN61qW8tDWUNQahuuSMCdqYMTO7+LeAJ+JoLCG5z/dtmkYvKg4eho992vb bP8mWR5wDwQ+QbScyYjhLsYX+w0ZYy0w0JYC61pOuqc5Qb+jB1noSbsNYkjqKtrxNC/3 5/bKG1VvZ/hSXdsE8nt1NdzbhfjG9xVjMu9Xw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <52c0521a.1a58bf.12f9ce6acda.Webtop.43@charter.net> References: <52c0521a.1a58bf.12f9ce6acda.Webtop.43@charter.net> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 18:24:04 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: portable PA for electronic looper From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109243 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:24:06 +0000 (UTC) Certainly, but this solution has a nice modular scalable option. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 6:17 PM, wrote: > YES, you could theoretically create a little stack of two for Left and a > stack of two for Right. > > I bet it would sound terrific. =C2=A0for the $700 - $800 it's going to co= st you, > however, there might be more viable powered monitor solutions? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 28 16:25:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 402EC1834A0; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:25:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=sFjNvD52j6lNzWhWR6JsEevZIQ5zyaIXhhyya1AEmXg=; b=lwBGRhEJSg+64hA1W9prqChjt8cl0tbjqS6R57G6lDPB5z5uZmDE/L2IkXyB3pINiz hce4eVVuH90vsLKzQDUBXTnvDsQWwd0+T9ScQJocSwMcgRKhh2nJs/4FoPgyGIFnRJTX 8tpWzFMh4Or4eNKvRevptLLk51CtfBdLCxrqg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nTVOEbv9puTSvs24XJakZzb46QL2rk1wBbq69zwPEIEkaY+IBnmTUY1M6CvUL/VRM5 Mf+THrG5DTR6PSPrxBZw5nBhbsKwMlyawbl18us2byXljHGuFkXo2rLD5EP5yonQRoQo kzXGK1uhRXzSmv8XoQR/D43puoJidpvHGRrVg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 18:25:07 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: portable PA for electronic looper From: Fabio_A To: mp@mpeters.de, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f9abb01f999104a1fd0053 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109244 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:25:08 +0000 (UTC) --001485f9abb01f999104a1fd0053 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 A few months ago I bought 2 Phonic P5A 210 watt, 2-way bi-amplified studio monitors providing a dedicated 140 watts of power for the low frequencies and 70 watts for the highs. Very portable, FAT bass and not expensive They are good as studio monitors as weel for playing in small places (IMO) Link here http://www.phonic.com/en/p5a.html -f www.eterogeneo.com 2011/4/25 Michael Peters > just wondering what you use if you want to play in a club or gallery which > doesn't have a PA and you have to bring your own, and you don't want to use > guitar combos but something clean - the stuff that I do does come from the > guitar but goes through laptop and plugins and has more the spectrum of > keyboard music, with possibly lots of dynamics and bass. A friend uses a > pair of Rokit studio monitors for his ambient music but another friend said > these are not suitable for more dynamic music, and I should get a small PA > instead. No idea what kind of product would be suitable but it should be > lightweight, small, and not terribly expensive. Ideas anyone? > > -Michael > > --001485f9abb01f999104a1fd0053 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Very portable, FAT bass and not expensive
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--001485f9abb01f999104a1fd0053-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 28 17:52:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7965E183449; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 17:52:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=3fbASuJrrc/klZzQYp/NAuCh80qmQwPL3r2MMhzDi4c=; b=lskJNrrThSorhLC2P7CbgKdwLzhS7ywte9csQC4pV68h+ZAS/6h1/u5q5BtwTVd2QG ovTiaYXpALRUGRPyC4jrkpJ/Pav5V8kUmgmg6jgnGL/4Nn2lxVCqQkSdctU5jhUe6BVJ iSiUlRFGPUGcQflFSzJG4IZren7kHnd6vYudM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=V/Cn9bnRlhbHk5qLoL3nV3GxkaEcfvOcHOoR86/8Xh4PeD9E5EZhoum+6NHfXSW0Dn zcTJjw3CWYdjX+ZQXtwJR9+dui/pBDYQyO9vCBIwHIOsY56+DQBQ3IYLgzTq+hM8HXL9 bhd5QC20cC7dQTDNPrqmZmu3bKgVuOp9ZJ8tw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 13:52:46 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Everything's an instrument looper video From: Tony K To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6154bc8af2f104a1fe3999 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109245 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 17:52:47 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6154bc8af2f104a1fe3999 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 loopy goodness. http://youtu.be/vqeYe7aZhyY -- -==-=-=- Tony --90e6ba6154bc8af2f104a1fe3999 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
loopy goodness.
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--90e6ba6154bc8af2f104a1fe3999-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 28 21:42:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EBD921834A0; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 21:42:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Lcs/KHQWf1+WpbMVNSP//KiDVhI8DUtp4n3j3E1tvBA=; b=icKD4oYP70BD5nGnLQF6Kxg7ZG5m3yLezNOvHrWWRvaf9Ycxhkx6gwvI6ZVl76hH+6 aBNQF0Z1qnKUvnzHhk8PFINgIUK8tH2mv9tjSAZCjZY9GMNVyK5lhHwU3lQlWtrRGwAB z8xcDNZu+2HYGrIj1L3AZ0B2ramkPubolwFN4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZkRHxFZ5LG3I/XRtfd7JqaUTzZ6q3PNJ+soAb9cHjJBYb+drLwnoa+v8XtJCY/xMsr MZ1oVUiNzhxvEc+z6W0sDdslXaGyDw3ujAbBYPHCnLgKah2fIGYpQCi+5hTu2p16SrcI rxF+YP6rJyh9n4UYCItujKrxbtqdWMtKJLNoo= Message-ID: <4DB9DF39.7070506@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 23:42:17 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: loopy music on new vimeo film References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_8IAe.A.mg.58duNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109246 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 21:42:17 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe schrieb: > http://vimeo.com/2290789 Why does the title in the film say "Skogen", but the title on the vimeo page is "Skogan"? ;-P Nice one! Given the ancillary conditions you mentioned, I had hoped for some all-acoustic music, though... -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 28 21:48:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09DD21834A0; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 21:48:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=1tTOyc27Jrei6HFtkFpPVFOZ3yO0wCnQuMirye+LcoE=; b=hyoj2ccnG/HJL9d25vlVJdRPeH35CufNuo5fqqlo7DS6AunEo5oBNhv0ikva20J3PI xyWdQir5/Uu1TpX79flxqn2eiOdHPuzdrrjaAexbLer5OlS3bNSh2AdwIn5zLS2ozIdL gHreUCjz2Z5+zbdXdPQ6adsMGfoGuDjwG4Fa8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=UZ4ZlSyT7WszzJuZwKBnG6NUl/f9m1E9P68z+faHsw13e5J4oGCfGzn3viCMk5zQFr +fsLKSGT39moYjIs0QAIsHd1Qn9aqA0tyhCcgdWtxnErydMoRmCGvaCliTvLBisLahdV RkWzLw+qemr4iK17mp0wo0FGUfgOcCmGwHNQI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4DB9DF39.7070506@googlemail.com> References: <4DB9DF39.7070506@googlemail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 23:48:20 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: mdSNu7JpvQa5jOALOTQktKsH998 Message-ID: Subject: Re: loopy music on new vimeo film To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109247 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 21:48:41 +0000 (UTC) Aesthetically, a good point, i am in fact working on another video from earlier, where Hilde sang unaccompanied, but im adding some bits on top, with saz..still cant help but loop a bit tho... who do you think I am? Mark Francombe Unplugged... thats a fucking laugh! :-)) M. On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > mark francombe schrieb: >> >> http://vimeo.com/2290789 > > Why does the title in the film say "Skogen", but the title on the vimeo page > is "Skogan"? ;-P > > Nice one! Given the ancillary conditions you mentioned, I had hoped for some > all-acoustic music, though... > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > > -- Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 28 21:58:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D121E18349D; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 21:58:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1O7gL3lK0BLF2uUh0c16ztp8pecAYXWJDDW4GFzmjGs=; b=gKo4upr7g0AMsvOU+rdkU3K0vtlglSXBUpKz8zNcd8MrdBXDRUIGmlJuKQFiRhn7Tj OKUtWUnno5xJMSpSkyDWkdOwKTohfQsvscvbpZBUFVYpuYQiW1OhN01ut8N/qOy8yCSF ozGyuwNvqa+RgYsYpntb37VFQBHDJ6ap7WYTg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=iMLSyX8Zh4C0Qn/aCMIeyhcX9gThDpVmzVNInLy16I5yuFqQnrghHyndQi78wEfLiu N5yvRPRKZkvGI70U+aZBdMteVxCFo6WbPGaeX1UZwmXp/xXp0JlsPCl8JKJdgm4GqJW9 Z2B7pMVwhuYsIqncMfyNRHFtYxSxaOq7P2LEc= Message-ID: <4DB9E302.8060508@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 23:58:26 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Looper's Delight Mailing List Subject: OT: new attempts in marketing - the #secretalbum Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109248 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 21:58:21 +0000 (UTC) Hi everyone, (now this is definitely by all means OT - looping is not involved. Unless odd marketing strategies are considered ontopic by now...), I'm currently working on some viral/underground/whateveryoucallit marketing strategy for a future album of mine - so far via twitter referred to as the #secretalbum. Now here's the deal: if you download one of my albums (pay-what-you-want) on bandcamp before or on May 1st 2011 (http://moinlabs.bandcamp.com/), you will receive a) access to exclusive insider info (and advanced listening) regarding the "secret album", b) a free coupon for early/free access to the album once it's done. (details: http://bit.ly/hQKKPo) Ok, this promotion is still open for about three days - go out there and download something! Most of the albums actually have looping. And there's tracks with participation of some list members as well! (from the top of my hat, including Daryl Shawn, Os, Brian Good, Rick Walker, Krispen Hartung and Stefan Tiedje). Daryl Shawn summarized the album "wie groß ist die luft?" thusly: "it's a corker!" What are you waiting for? Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 28 22:01:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DB6B1834A1; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:01:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wME7SDaYSWX6CvI0IpzKYf07q2yfoClfR6pBrndeI5U=; b=Z2pieLYWbom42RtMapVn1dyjuPCS7IGC0Eo46MS8TlKa768fQ7Wmj1Nt0otuiT/7Le iePFElN+fkkc9LoQY2FnM9naO6WqhYYRE/bNVuX9pOBidlng+dK3LxJclZj5lz5vd2qU W7j8q+0DsaDVu33UY7KiCNdPn6t5cPeku4GFY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MftZuQYS174Jl606kUuTqzzYntnULzrBIjQSlPZ/DXwe2ZSMsNDSkDIhL5LTx+vV2U nWpunpw4sQZus3ultsW4tbr2K/45zm0GrCMWQ/l7tbmPgbllxZtJsLbrxaj+zrme5ah2 XnzxcdZSdBIz6YHdviswc+M+1cjtogxDYIAXs= Message-ID: <4DB9E3A5.6050104@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 00:01:09 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: loopy music on new vimeo film References: <4DB9DF39.7070506@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109249 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:01:03 +0000 (UTC) > help but loop a bit tho... who do you think I am? Mark Francombe > Unplugged... thats a fucking laugh! > And why is that? Seriosuly, I think you oughta try, just for fun! (Now I'm not that much familiar with your work, but I still believe whatever it is you do, you could be doing an unplugged album - and you should). E.g., after a series of releases with loops, drum computers, synths, electric guitars, odd processing etc. - my last album was acoustic grand piano. No loops. No effects. And I happen to like it. Looking forward to it! Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 28 22:53:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 456511834A1; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:53:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1304031190; bh=z3DbPWBsOq2L3seONu7RTZK+gk/fnZ16T/+AXcEoVmw=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=PKQOHwDuFakTDxX6qMZNv1I+6kzNZuvH21iGlMe9gvhUbId4jMNICMFOECeqA3Iq1E0sL3wFz9rC9CV79kD75SVw/5J8TpiCXJQzmgoL2KppV4qWVKTk+yo3fFEY/bLRCwCD/orxt8SvFKlFYv/i87J9ijBrhJWlyV0ONwbLx4U= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 932636.81225.bm@smtp104.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-SMTP: OQskSLeswBC2kdNEVqHEYK1lxP8pzkbKWw-- X-YMail-OSG: bEDU_BMVM1mDZPak1_pFC3HToEHgc5URh9yar2X3IhnDiAr cA0ISlmsUYzIDBEq8JTX1CiHt8T1AiukGKsT..aTlO1nbC5ffW5oaKXVuov2 EkkiSC7z6vMtcgiUkIwh_lgObxaliwPufHahh_VeOnQfHPiF1RWclzgsPe9s wicx6yzcNJdAyS6GbRUCwoSn5Wv7S0qZKXsuwLhNverWOF.mb6QNDYjKZmP5 wijYKxoXNTXLQLcwycdEIJf1UDh_VmDX2BiitLHAzb3lWpwd1ckZkUc39zbL 3OnDXlGjAPMFk93tHLqB3SOYHLEqsLUfa3xpgwYVdPDFsXIMIn2qjPkPQNsI smWm8osHm5VUA2d0JKfggnOf60ps- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4DB9EFDB.1020801@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 15:53:15 -0700 From: Hans Lindauer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Testes 123 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109250 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:53:11 +0000 (UTC) Hey dudes is this thing still on. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 28 23:44:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97D8818349F; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 23:44:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=zUqQ2eogioz8lh+3uqjRe4Y1MWSUJU+U3b3PFzAwX18= c=1 sm=1 a=KfGq-mLK1qwA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=qYz8RHWopigd8QnFYCx1XA==:17 a=SXrTVLm9vS3FdxyssdEA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=qYz8RHWopigd8QnFYCx1XA==:117 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 19:44:39 -0400 (EDT) From: =?UTF8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <2cb16b64.335a.12f9e7ffff2.Webtop.46@charter.net> Subject: RE: Testes 123 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 46 X-Originating-IP: [68.118.35.162] Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109251 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 23:44:40 +0000 (UTC) Great balls of fire! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 29 00:32:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30E851834A3; Fri, 29 Apr 2011 00:32:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DBA0723.6000004@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 20:32:35 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109252 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 00:32:40 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll conckude the month-long Special Focus on Ombient. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 29 00:43:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 33BFE1834A1; Fri, 29 Apr 2011 00:43:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Kxyl+5qM4tJowS7bTtoGV/sphepRv/Fa1W5+pRKw52I=; b=wr73QePx4kk14z9RSi7wMbpcH/Hsr2aalbzkjGuM8qWjbMzPRtdP1w8UrZsmbJ9gF/ HNi2QUm1RNSDdckhhwcaEJsVj1mL+FaU7YPfDcpebMednxKERRPeB5feUSvIabrWsKZv AeZEdKkBISJlN0mfpHrDvodq8PttBKepE/cU8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=GVkFyyI99S9PZfBgLc/lM0yiRo30rpdITSCdsARsoSeTsCwKYzBx6mtgrURH5C8yXg RIONUbBJbX9auK/pFiJ682SHSwPa3BJJRkMMwNzg1L8HlLuRaaCrJReuV6ymvicpaos8 vUvc8QuFryDzL66cNMTD3eEoLVbWbxT6hO6vU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 19:43:55 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Controlling edp with ableton From: marcus kirby To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd4c106f4dc2104a203f70c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109253 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 00:43:56 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd4c106f4dc2104a203f70c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've trouble figuring out how to make ableton send midi note numbers (39=record, 40=overdub, etc.) Additionally, the excel files that list the midi note (c1=record, etc.) are not correct. I really need to send a midi clock pulse to the edp, but I can't figure out the right values. I'm also working on using ableton's sequencer to send various commands to create cool rhythms, but I need the values. --000e0cd4c106f4dc2104a203f70c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

I've trouble figuring out how to make ableton send midi note numbers (39=record, 40=overdub, etc.) Additionally, the excel files that list the midi note (c1=record, etc.) are not correct.

I really need to send a midi clock pulse to the edp, but I can't figure out the right values.

I'm also working on using ableton's sequencer to send various commands to create cool rhythms, but I need the values.

--000e0cd4c106f4dc2104a203f70c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 29 01:36:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0C241834A1; Fri, 29 Apr 2011 01:36:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--683716733 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: portable PA for electronic looper Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 18:36:37 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109254 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 01:36:46 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--683716733 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I forgot to mention this unit which so far I've been impressed with, a no brainer for Ipod users as it has dock as well. easy stand mounting too. http://www.samsontech.com/products/productpage.cfm?prodID=2040&brandID=2 Bill --Apple-Mail-1--683716733 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I forgot to mention this unit which so far I've been impressed with, a no brainer for Ipod users as it has dock as well.  easy stand mounting too.
Bill
--Apple-Mail-1--683716733-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 29 01:45:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1B9B1834A1; Fri, 29 Apr 2011 01:45:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1304041513; bh=fQrnLGKj0aa7LYsQaOqIlkIrqU1JudnDCK/ZcRchhwA=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=kAKJ7mKQTcKAOClubBGPwD0PoVfrH0p7NIGXt09f0NsTTshmzHNQI2ymM36Goe7v3BeeS9BtisvRTgWQqyi4WAsuwDHwbHb8vDwI0OT9vhCE3/0AkCAq080C5Ch7ZTtmbXOuPgYlQJRHlS4+aPVs/ZZcysjZhog6NoFEQ3FH38s= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 820035.5486.bm@smtp108.mail.ac4.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-SMTP: OQskSLeswBC2kdNEVqHEYK1lxP8pzkbKWw-- X-YMail-OSG: 1dxq4qcVM1mYszDfp6ED9dimD3e8YjgBE5kJXeSnfhitkfz t6YEVgN8DJVZe9AYXkXJBvQJvZ67ZhUDgeQIXA4dZpzxpZdYqZO53diKUaPl 0vxx7tCLW4O9_iggderC8mzA.22oiQ9opveYTYePaG.EDrl9Kj7B1tQl61eE DM6c3GB3us9vXNQXx3H2PZJoWtqVB3xeHG9B_2r_w4fmTIxTIIZ_6S8FZohD nT4a.gEsJHiwAMQVe5pk9PAnwMajDbK_7vZwWPZQQWWYG8Su0d_j8vdTicnb J7qcSaWOTyuAnZte_mo3ceGa5KBZwhHRXk1mlmKt4F_ob1vO1C.iU.cWD0s0 9g9K411okidrmAYJD89VTbwA- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4DBA182E.4000601@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 18:45:18 -0700 From: Hans Lindauer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Controlling edp with ableton References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109255 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 01:45:14 +0000 (UTC) You might want to check your MIDI source #, the notes that are given are for the default source # of 36 so if that got changed then things won't work right. BTW note 38=record. Also check to make sure your MIDI channel is set correctly both in Ableton and on the EDP. Also, make sure (in Ableton's MIDI preferences) that sync is being sent on whatever MIDI device is connected from Ableton to the EDP. -armatronix On 4/28/2011 5:43 PM, marcus kirby wrote: > > I've trouble figuring out how to make ableton send midi note numbers > (39=record, 40=overdub, etc.) Additionally, the excel files that list > the midi note (c1=record, etc.) are not correct. > > I really need to send a midi clock pulse to the edp, but I can't > figure out the right values. > > I'm also working on using ableton's sequencer to send various commands > to create cool rhythms, but I need the values. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 29 02:00:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB9701834A1; Fri, 29 Apr 2011 02:00:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1304042417; bh=miA5AauWdfIntF4hGgZZVwkxEsVJgrEm/Jt/AoISkxc=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=MieZlCFuBqtwrqBn1YwThWpTzJCvRBeDLH2qvUZfyJRAIf2lOU/BVl4OaQxW48m80MJoTKJ/j293peYJVKK82U1iqSvnMCRKHEgHGNc4p/GgqTeiJ+sjWYTZt29RIbMwJImBNKheMTHwiJ7Kaho0WWfajAQ//7bVTSqhTCGsqvw= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 762384.84812.bm@smtp107.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-SMTP: OQskSLeswBC2kdNEVqHEYK1lxP8pzkbKWw-- X-YMail-OSG: 4KM9h1UVM1mA.qpSy0VENiGkSwZZe8BiylV6MNxG4fOT6_l 6G3zykTDcr8lDP7lAt_ySAxYG7h3V83yrvqB5gJtjgnyDTAhyivv.4LvKilS 4d3rqKnhIrr_F2B100PHh6KzHJKvKBT1sslAFaJJLBEVfLrbItDMl4yvVaXO p8I7e8ZEKJchAOHJc_jgJKuczLKY9Wb8gPshgURhDg30YImfJ_MFTANwc4Tb ygJVXJD6OaKs3K3JmwmMLEehdHfE.BJZtNgE.MKNlUyswmb8pJ99kidkKdpP uk6AR9MW1wn7JBPPnERjVeuHVf8mbvvGmgYahXm2GOe0kf_nNOwXkAGq5Sc6 nhT_2yxsRhalJPwF6XCneVcVJ X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4DBA1BB6.1050806@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 19:00:22 -0700 From: Hans Lindauer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: TouchOSC iPad Template for EDP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109256 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 02:00:18 +0000 (UTC) I just posted a new template for controlling the EDP from an iPad using TouchOSC. This one should work with the Missing Link, the Midi Mobilizer, or via CoreMIDI (wireless or wired via the USB Camera Kit). Please help me test it out: http://wifimidi.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=113 Thanks, -Hans From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 29 08:52:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1172E1834A5; Fri, 29 Apr 2011 08:52:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: Subject: Re: portable PA for electronic looper Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 10:52:26 +0200 Message-ID: <94CFC0DD0CF94505AB11FCB7FDC8BB1D@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcwGSsNvNBGlN2SxSHmOWDejctfmvw== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6090 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109257 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 08:52:41 +0000 (UTC) the two audio technicians that I know here have both strongly advised me against using active speakers (such as the Phonic P5A that Fabio recommends, or the Rokit speakers that Markus uses) - both expect that the tweeters would soon break because of the occasional high overtones and the strong dynamics that is inevitable when playing guitar. What do you think? -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 29 09:03:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA0FB1834A5; Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:03:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=oOR5eDrWbR4qe/X3/Hwos8cbV8ctPlz0/NEmawAbdhw=; b=dGY61v1xVTXgJew/X4JeZMdNic1SL4ClQxYLUmqvXMrtXNCG573q3IcxRBCCOFyG0r MX8cymx6PhHE/sD59hThLTUXoBrOEMMYMCVn3AAMMbq2g7Zs2S6bIb8wIwA6J1aFf2Tq s5svhz/VloJkzTarbO5ntjKB5K9EV0EuWd/dw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=YpG815Xx9Yv7IewVN19VBr181JLCVvXi9ewxbDhkOMbiCipQB2J6bpnPPDTUO1KOfa adY1aOcCFvpd76vFAQTQsWBGr+Ps4qQwLrdC6xaWYA3EpP0DlNLDPdYlZRa4J6ugdVso S0TS/97YVraL9hSM6NTjl2WZi0RdKNFsGaNuo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <94CFC0DD0CF94505AB11FCB7FDC8BB1D@mpeserver> References: <94CFC0DD0CF94505AB11FCB7FDC8BB1D@mpeserver> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 11:03:44 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: portable PA for electronic looper From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175ce0ba70f69504a20af3dc Resent-Message-ID: <23OkNB.A.-BH.x7nuNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109258 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:03:45 +0000 (UTC) --0015175ce0ba70f69504a20af3dc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Another vote for the cm-30. I do my guitar thing (exactly, a warr tsg-8) in quiet/small venues with a pair of these. 2011/4/29 Michael Peters > the two audio technicians that I know here have both strongly advised me > against using active speakers (such as the Phonic P5A that Fabio > recommends, > or the Rokit speakers that Markus uses) - both expect that the tweeters > would soon break because of the occasional high overtones and the strong > dynamics that is inevitable when playing guitar. What do you think? > > -Michael > > -- .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com --0015175ce0ba70f69504a20af3dc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Another vote for the cm-30. I do my guitar thing (exactly, a warr tsg-8) in= quiet/small venues with a pair of these.

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--0015175ce0ba70f69504a20af3dc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 29 09:24:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E92AD1834A5; Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:24:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5dYxu3lzAU5Ka+2gSgrW+Cx+BJTK7Cmb7uBaRVrS9UY=; b=FIxcx6xpiUhFXDVQ/f6qfMhBiMZS7+yS71fMqWAgq6shTluOHRo5d0rW+kCBtyuUKg VIU2hXUTTbxcB7JonullIheEKWvSyk6O7SleiP4vrzx5extEnXS+dQJS2R1SYPlSmmn+ oXL59RoNvarYLTuDwItO2V46goNVQQ4jDB7wM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ErxNxT6jmn8ldZ0AyIk3WmfRLBSzmmcXRKLdlNOWogivg6U8qIbgMPd9ZxsvSsR4jw wLmnlm4xjRoKSnVX979iiXU+gT/H7vH10YJtMEJw6v4tNRTZgqR3yuCncnJc7SYLR6Cl sPdinBl/13sZjBPA5KxRoCRYzkWePVF6yTuq8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <94CFC0DD0CF94505AB11FCB7FDC8BB1D@mpeserver> References: <94CFC0DD0CF94505AB11FCB7FDC8BB1D@mpeserver> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 11:24:09 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: portable PA for electronic looper From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <1glb4D.A.RNH.6OouNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109259 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:24:10 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > the two audio technicians that I know here have both strongly advised me > against using active speakers (such as the Phonic P5A that Fabio recommends, > or the Rokit speakers that Markus uses) - both expect that the tweeters > would soon break because of the occasional high overtones and the strong > dynamics that is inevitable when playing guitar. What do you think? I think your tech friends are talking line-in guitar, because using a guitar amp miked up doesn't produce such spikes. If you are doing direct line-in guitar you can limit damaging spikes by using plenty of headroom and a limiter. Not talking about the musical limiting effect here, just a brick wall setting that affects the most powerful spikes. Also, if looping "experimentally" you will benefit from setting up a low cut filter before the signal is sent to the speakers (or even before master dynamic processing, if you are using that). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 29 09:29:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 930CA1834A5; Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:29:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DFWD7tiA5S6ti3AAalimKBxOgAcziam8csycR954DUg=; b=t4HSkwEzhx+4EZ1zCAnZBE2Tx8mlW6oE/iVy7NiFqw7oijc+PuKeYkEGwUGGf5WRMl oN84DpFvex6ftwAVG6gimdSVckz6+S9ihtNsvrtErjrVYKxuqerYan+x4+6xc9yQuzAh WnDWUDnm/MAClg7YnVXZ7OvTxgLKvWxOKMWGE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sr7DUTcc3n6fLL8PY23XE9yoGDGCDFuz1MPNAEmhb/Gsbk+5OGbvMdmYMWdwGyJOI5 IafZPCACyArzVF2wLY2/eCVal0DhakoYpYmuGSPlyecT0I4r+HyPUYgcNwd2C3rr/M8z kHWveTGmyy2LMPmGH7ormkQT06ei0rbABJXRY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DBA1BB6.1050806@yahoo.com> References: <4DBA1BB6.1050806@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 11:29:28 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: TouchOSC iPad Template for EDP From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109260 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:29:29 +0000 (UTC) Looking great, Hans! Must be good for a looping singer. And educationally benifitting for a beginner at the EDP, as you instantly see so many commands in the display. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 4:00 AM, Hans Lindauer wro= te: > I just posted a new template for controlling the EDP from an iPad using > TouchOSC. =C2=A0This one should work with the Missing Link, the Midi Mobi= lizer, > or via CoreMIDI (wireless or wired via the USB Camera Kit). > > Please help me test it out: > > http://wifimidi.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3D6&t=3D113 > > Thanks, > -Hans > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 29 10:50:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9AE1C1834A0; Fri, 29 Apr 2011 10:50:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gg5yQgsEims2rESCSETKJ2tsNzs6LSxWiYhXZXD/US4=; b=NhyWf7MinjzUUs7GA+3tEGhguCZdXW0larAcqxuVb3LPXy4n3yI5isIlWLGAq0Y78J 3JovHRpAp8ST3w0RkWYIPHzrmzEX3u4UV/rJbWKYVs2zOAFumLHBxIbPhgEY9F/teOAT T0V6fB90MHH5e8C4llA9wayBzGZZQI1+JXk3o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=N1ENA8vbzv9KyyH5aiB7jPvv6TRn/pkKyMiYn8YTJ813b0v95ZcGcdY89OyCdsMgZw Aem8L0h/WgO4xUNmggZ/iMHKWvAGbrVHezfG9hpgwHnNxZ/OdCPPLFVx2Y/NNDEg7fJG CLG81GY9GafEHc+PNR0uwdwrY29z+EpjBm6xA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <94CFC0DD0CF94505AB11FCB7FDC8BB1D@mpeserver> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 12:50:56 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: portable PA for electronic looper From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3079ba12d39f4704a20c72de Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109261 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 10:50:57 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3079ba12d39f4704a20c72de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Per Boysen > > > I think your tech friends are talking line-in guitar, because using a > guitar amp miked up doesn't produce such spikes. Same for my piano, I guess, even if post-effected. > If you are doing > direct line-in guitar you can limit damaging spikes by using plenty of > headroom and a limiter. I had exactly the same idea. Limiters are very useful to avoid occasional spikes. They are used in most "Pro" context (live or studio ). Try "Voxengo Elephant" VST plugin. put it at the very end of your signal chain and adiust its settings to "limit" the maximum peak to a certain threshold. -f www.eterogeneo.com --20cf3079ba12d39f4704a20c72de Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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--20cf3079ba12d39f4704a20c72de-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 29 11:52:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 405081834A7; Fri, 29 Apr 2011 11:52:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DBAA660.70709@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 04:52:00 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Availability of the LOOPERLATIVE LP-1 was LP1 version 1.39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109262 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 11:52:08 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, ^|>^m wrote: > */I just noticed on the website that LP1's are out of stock. Are they > still in production? /* > > Theoretically, they still are, but the cost of each individual unit is so high that Bob needs a commitment of at least 12 units to make a future run financially viable. Right now, a concerted commitment of 12-15 people to purchase a new one at $1200 (the lowest price that makes manufacturing and selling the LP-1 financially viable) will make the unit available again. For the last several months, there have only been 3 or 4 calls to purchase a new unit. If people are interested in buying one, I would highly suggest that they get organized and see if they can drum up 12 loopers to go in on a group buy. I'd be happy to facilitate such a campaign if anyone needs help. Bob is putting all of his financial energy and time, currently, into getting the LP-2 Mini Looper launched. Remember folks, Bob is a 1 person business and the coding and manufacturing of Looperlative is also shared with his full time job and the task of running a family of 5. He just doesn't have the marketing resources, the financial resources or the person power to compete with large companies like Roland, Line 6 and Digitech. Andy Butler and myself help when we can but don't have the physical ability to help out with manufacturing (Andy's in England, I'm a technically incompetent). Given those limitations, future development of LP-1 software functionality will still continue (with some cool things in store!) and more attention will be paid to that end as soon as the LP-2 is available on the market. The sudden, yet protracted death of Bob's father and some technical glitches have slowed the release of the LP-2 Mini Looper but he's working very hard on it as we speak. We are in the final Beta testing phases, however, so things are looking good. There is also a distinct possibility that a third Looperlative looper will be created by Bob that will have a smaller feature set (probably 4 or 5 tracks, no AUX outs) that is essentially the same as the LP-1 but realistically speaking, this unit is several months from any kind of manifestation. Such a unit would probably run in the $800-$900 range. Rick Walker for Looperlative From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 29 14:48:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D6691834A5; Fri, 29 Apr 2011 14:48:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fYdp/0ghWnA+9StzaZWjTSraDNjOjo9gsPla/97WqXY=; b=xIG/yF4LCoL4A7VcGuqBvpt1VIvaor7tKgL5AxAQiVDOvrD8oSWaae0gJyhogeVHab TFL0XVK+SxWn8L/c2lgGx18dlYVoiKB4bhuUee0QU070qXM8o0dvu+77xO02jmaEpisa JYxOUv4o+sbiCzboNiStlypXkAoaJvtjsGOUc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=I51MlNwlnJwbF4oqImck448zlQc22X9ODcx2X49gUvBCf3EJhkseQhjI69iH/xWc2E evJNj7zPm3XwyAMcat+FWlCML2LedVhgtv0P5Q9LteYwP54+jMtN/JN7ei16ZYNHVXVa MzoUOoCfDxMqS9S/2OaQ9lFbKA3Qm+aobhaPg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <94CFC0DD0CF94505AB11FCB7FDC8BB1D@mpeserver> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 16:48:13 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: portable PA for electronic looper From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109263 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 14:48:14 +0000 (UTC) >> If you are doing >> direct line-in guitar you can limit damaging spikes by using plenty of >> headroom and a limiter. >> Per Boysen On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Fabio_A wrote: > > I had exactly the same idea. > Limiters are very useful to avoid occasional spikes. > They are used in most "Pro" context (live or studio ). > Try "Voxengo Elephant" VST plugin. put it at the very end > of your signal chain and adiust its settings to "limit" the maximum > peak to a certain threshold. And when using a laptop rig, try to avoid using plugins that create extra latency! For live playing, go for plugins that do their job within the host specified plugin buffer. Over here I keep the simple Logic/Mainstage Limiter on the final stereo output bus. Another latency avoiding trick is to use reverb returns with non temp critical effects coming back through a multi compressor (that one delays the signal with 5 ms) on a parallel bus in order to route my instrument signal directly to the output. This allows me to play with 12.7 ms latency (at buffer 128 samples), which is totally ok, sort of equaling standing a few meters away from your speaker cabinet on stage. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 29 15:37:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A3DE1834A6; Fri, 29 Apr 2011 15:37:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 545 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 29 Apr 2011 15:37:06 UTC Reply-To: From: "::Yellow6::" To: Subject: looping software query Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 17:27:38 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004B_01CC0692.BDD6E1F0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6090 Importance: Normal X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=R50lirqlHffDPPkwUlkuVa99MrvKdVWo//yz83qex8g= c=1 sm=0 a=PjDrq6BbhUYA:10 a=TwxRuC4DgNUA:10 a=tzWAz3_66pgA:10 a=d7ZwxG6AAAAA:8 a=0Kn2nNnWBPV8DfYZ6ZEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=SxnCBmCod7qoJei36HUA:9 a=GzAyinIC_KoiWXfjja8A:7 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Resent-Message-ID: <3_ef9C.A.o6C.jstuNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109264 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 15:37:07 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01CC0692.BDD6E1F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi i've been using hardware loopers for many years and have been through most of the cheaper end of the range (JamMan, RC-20, RC-2, DL-4) and finally settled on an RC-50 and Lo-fi loop junky. but, following my move to using Logic on Mac for recording last year, i now have access to Main Stage and wondered about making a more portable live setup using that. I have no experience of software looping tools so wondered if anyone could give some advice on what i might be able to use. Basic requirement is to be able to record one loop (hands free as i'm a guitarist) and layer on top in sync, switching in and out as needed, but also to occasionally use a pre-recorded loop as a start point (possibly not for sync as it might be a drone). Also any suggestions of a good floor controller thanks in advance for any suggestions cheers jon. - y e l l o w 6 - www.yellow6.com ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01CC0692.BDD6E1F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
hi
i've = been using=20 hardware loopers for many years and have been through most of the = cheaper end of=20 the range (JamMan, RC-20, RC-2, DL-4) and finally settled on an RC-50 = and Lo-fi=20 loop junky.  but, following my move to using Logic on Mac for = recording=20 last year, i now have access to Main Stage and wondered about making a = more=20 portable live setup using that. 
I have = no experience=20 of software looping tools so wondered if anyone could give some advice = on what i=20 might be able to use.
Basic = requirement is=20 to be able to record one loop (hands free as i'm a guitarist) and layer = on top=20 in sync, switching in and out as needed, but also to occasionally use a=20 pre-recorded loop as a start point (possibly not for sync as it might be = a=20 drone).
Also = any suggestions=20 of a good floor controller
thanks = in advance=20 for any suggestions
cheers
jon.
 
    =20  - y e l l o w 6=20 -
      = www.yellow6.com
 
------=_NextPart_000_004B_01CC0692.BDD6E1F0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 29 16:07:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD9511834A5; Fri, 29 Apr 2011 16:07:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=F5uUvN75VDE6luMM1H1VdPx89nmvmGnEdB4pGo2w17A=; b=eXVTicGWkbm9rjpfJwL9E82DLm7fPipM/+XjW7jxDdH6KBjoAgv4xAZF3xXSybSUjj UnMcZH6xlYpmH//hM68O70DMEIM42O3gTPzGXctJmzeZ4CWtrsN4/Ayvz2BpM/SAoMg2 iwA0XdHMoStwUZks9EcJWG9vwyG9HRz08fUrQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DARn9Jmd1yjdlGaKsXCNB+BrSalTAbWefIP+HS24iz5/WX4htivXfFSjbeFng8HX4/ Z3sLjThnOi5fyRPmfhLrergKvSt8XyhY4MV08sgmq3ZL6W2q+s4PxOy6Jm4+wyL1/rbu M0Z0JR/eWE/eYqvDAJ85zk+9T6iYcqgLYbCVU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 18:07:57 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: looping software query From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <2PUPLC.A.8WD.eJuuNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109265 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 16:07:58 +0000 (UTC) Hi jon, I have had good experiences from running the Mobius looper as an AU plugin inside Mainstage. I set the tempo for the rig by starting to play and snatch a first loop in Mobius, Mobius then sends out MIDI Clock over Mac's the IAC bus that Mainstage watches to follow tempo. That way I get all the MS effects working in the same tempo I'm playing, rather than having to play at a pre defined tempo. Blending in pre recorded audio this should work fine with MS's Playback plugin; it can be used both for tempo dependent loops that get timestretched to match MS's tempo and for tempo floating loops. I have not used this much myself though (as I like to let both composition and sound design happen on stage as you go). Before settling with Mainstage I used Bidule as the host for Mobius. Bidule also has a File Player module, but not with optional tempo follow/time-stretch as Mainstage. Before Bidule I was using Ableton Live (back in the Live 5.x days). Live can be a bit difficult graphically because the interface shows almost everything up front - meaning you constantly lose graphical focus of what you're doing - while in Bidule and Mainstage the routing power awaits you under the hood and you set up in graphics more or less exactly what you need an no more than that. Another software looper plugin I like is Expert Sleeper's Augustus Loop. Good thing with this is that it allows seamless loop speed/length transposition, rather than pitch being quantized to half note steps as with Mobius. But for me Mobius wins because it allows you to switch loops as they are playing and also arrange your session by creating complementary loops on parallel tracks. I also like the French Logelloop. An eight track looper built for Mac in Max that can host VST and AU plugins. The great point for me is that all its mixer settings can be saved as "presets" (or rather "snap shots") that you can jump between. In this you can set the value for how slow the morphing of all mixer parameter's values shall happen as you change preset, and this includes loop speed/pitch!!!! I have not been able to get Logelloop running stable on any of my Macs but as soon as this happens I will bring it out for concerts. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 6:27 PM, ::Yellow6:: wrote: > hi > i've been using hardware loopers for many years and have been through mos= t > of the cheaper end of the range (JamMan, RC-20, RC-2, DL-4) and finally > settled on an RC-50 and Lo-fi loop junky.=C2=A0 but, following my move to= using > Logic on Mac for recording last year, i now have access to Main Stage and > wondered about making a more portable live setup using that. > I have no experience of software looping tools so wondered if anyone coul= d > give some advice on what i might be able to use. > Basic requirement is to be able to record one loop (hands free as i'm a > guitarist) and layer on top in sync, switching in and out as needed, but > also to occasionally use a pre-recorded loop as a start point (possibly n= ot > for sync as it might be a drone). > Also any suggestions of a good floor controller > thanks in advance for any suggestions > cheers > jon. > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0-=C2=A0y=C2=A0e=C2=A0l=C2=A0l=C2=A0o=C2=A0= w=C2=A06 - > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 www.yellow6.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 29 20:29:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BBD3A1834A4; Fri, 29 Apr 2011 20:29:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4DBB1FC0.1090705@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 16:29:52 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #734 for April 28, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3rb4fC.A.s8F.E_xuNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109266 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 20:29:57 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/110428.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #734 April 28, 2011. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Ombient. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Oceans Edge" which is a self-released title. Ombient: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#apr PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) A Dancing Beggar Creeping Into Dusk Follow the Dark As If It Were Light (Audiobulb) Hypnosphere Part 1 Magnetism (Spheric Music) Bruno Sanfilippo The Third Geometry Subliminal Pulse (Spotted Peccary) Time Being Dust of Sorts A Dimension Reflected (Lotuspike) Twyndyllyngs Granular Space Between Space an Time (electro-music media) Forrest Fang's Sans Henon's Aurora * Unbound (Projekt) Serif 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Ombient Oceans Edge Oceans Edge (none) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a the month-long focus on Rudy Adrian. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Twilight" which is a self- released title. Rudy Adrian: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#may Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 29 20:31:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D31F51834A8; Fri, 29 Apr 2011 20:31:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=hlAJ++swh++Pv952eEdCMI+a5oVyTOj4bqP8lrBsuQc=; b=GSJj0rDywMoEUf+2EzQtVyfE8Fzhrg2wmTIxfuzZ61Rh3u3ZQjKgNUMp8VKmCC9fIA OWNStfvfg1+aTN5exbg5vhpgYwzcLs7FTdOu5vWfahUTuCzhT44rxTEdoAAJVYGGV2w8 ZKOGOcQm6GyFZ0Xvn85X1nZu26wGL2mQtDUQg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; b=hdNjtfTSt0zTIjDNTWGOr0LtwuWL3bH/n7zcAhCK8WZNtXFb3G9oAF1o9ffcBpcxDO VnGFsKvCfqlhY4NjrxzJdMEMJQtwfLDeI1NmAjCt9Q+M851rHmIE+vZr0FtrOQyHXt5h OFWS5+RgDv3AfOamIG9d6ZYAM6SQkMoMxu4/A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: danielhlevine@gmail.com Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 16:31:05 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: bMTq_ScyQ262KLW0CmfGaEM5Krw Message-ID: Subject: Loops for y'all From: daniel To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517740dcaa00aff04a2148dc5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109267 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 20:31:08 +0000 (UTC) --001517740dcaa00aff04a2148dc5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dearest Loop-Brethren, I recently released a new album of loops called "NOops." I've made it free to download for y'all so please do and I hope you enjoy! http://danielharris.bandcamp.com/album/noops Love, Daniel --001517740dcaa00aff04a2148dc5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dearest Loop-Brethren,

I recently released a new album of loops cal= led "NOops." I've made it free to download for y'all so p= lease do and I hope you enjoy!

http://danielharris.bandcamp.com/album/noops


Love,
Daniel
--001517740dcaa00aff04a2148dc5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 29 20:40:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 755181834A5; Fri, 29 Apr 2011 20:40:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=J79hFHBVkMQzAHVODfSlikKzcdvr8ArxP335QX9uoQU=; b=EaGWQgnzp3Q0M3l8MH74oLrf1GN9YsW6V9w3aC5qxluSfZQOKz0FJuG94HtBvG+7ot nsSCZ6tkSlnBphXxFWYEgq1JKH9j1gjz5wqCVmvPSpgY7wTcaysUyUmDW2NxVuRuNCBv RaRVZbenejO5GtwIYY+SkkpVWZPNcJOVFKLnE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ouMy9Z71JQfrNrAoFaAJ426HkEYatANw7rusRlFpQmXivO3Z6MRter8O9Z2WrghnMl iQHqE3EysRW5iXpPgqI+ZAUGnCap/Tv65RPBWXpIYp/EnRRHglzmWXCzPBdquwtmYyGj Mv7wRPHrKMsYdZnahuD6676/iVJG0B+LmJtj4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 22:40:07 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Loops for y'all From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109268 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 20:40:08 +0000 (UTC) Wow, I love that dreamy harp-like character! Nice layering. Well done! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 10:31 PM, daniel wrote: > I recently released a new album of loops called "NOops." I've made it free > to download for y'all so please do and I hope you enjoy! > > http://danielharris.bandcamp.com/album/noops From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 29 20:40:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0EFE1834A2; Fri, 29 Apr 2011 20:40:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=HZs7tLBq9ArJIYfHIKt1g4PoaQmTA+sO7pRWg3huZHA=; b=EFSfjErsPM6v0osAj2JuPX1IzESg8sWwq/8AYblPxj9x/UvhJvTPNpyCClRG8785LN eqG/oBS9rUrRnljAk0h8061l5X5JW5PYKK2PYaw59MXRDi3jyaLjSLTN9NQtxjRlwoiA nwaKL4GEHu9X79lWMzdNnkoJZTeTIUx9EZwFw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=uONOnF0ap8eUfKkKxrrQPZSEZ061Nw3NBtXMAhl/JWdfbHLxj5xYdHazysJx5yrAgj 14RIGDvEEbJTdiWDs1eQML/Y/YIojHvLLJOv3PuUKBxv+xWsqN6KS/TyMeFE+xhZEmMV fMzBzmVDzQHvx9bOqrvaA8i/ppV+mBFiPIjPk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: danielhlevine@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 16:40:32 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: UEX4jv9mhMeFebwUuw91EHJfH48 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Loops for y'all From: daniel To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8e0460fc1404a214aff4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109269 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 20:40:33 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8e0460fc1404a214aff4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks! On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Wow, I love that dreamy harp-like character! Nice layering. Well done! > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > > > On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 10:31 PM, daniel wrote: > > I recently released a new album of loops called "NOops." I've made it > free > > to download for y'all so please do and I hope you enjoy! > > > > http://danielharris.bandcamp.com/album/noops > > --90e6ba6e8e0460fc1404a214aff4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks!

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 4:40 PM, = Per Boysen <per= boysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Wow, I love that dreamy harp-like character! Nice layering. Well done!

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub



On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 10:31 PM, daniel <daniel@ithinkwethink.org> wrote:
> I recently released a new album of loops called "NOops." I&#= 39;ve made it free
> to download for y'all so please do and I hope you enjoy!
>
> http://danielharris.bandcamp.com/album/noops


--90e6ba6e8e0460fc1404a214aff4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 29 20:40:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5A2A1834A9; Fri, 29 Apr 2011 20:40:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=IdFrj7KqpLnCmCELZ9LLsXC02inz7IhJHq0EWVCUB8hX9g7zsrOewswAFaBbsCGz; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <192597.86253.qm@web24814.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 16:40:39 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Electrix Re:peater for sale....!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79052a7ccd973dce1408e2f04b07c1aacb350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: <0rCMED.A.9QG.OJyuNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109270 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 20:40:46 +0000 (UTC) Hi there loopers, I have decided to part with my Electrix Repeater.. if you or anyone you know is interested please feel free to send me an email...!! Here are the details: Works flawlessly..! Latest OS... ("2.4") Power supply... Seldom gigged.. Will include several CFC cards... I am only selling because I am going the low tech - tactile route of using my EH2880 and I need the closet space!! -Chuck PS: There are 2 on ebay at the moment for $799 and $875 -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 29 23:00:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C8E81834A5; Fri, 29 Apr 2011 23:00:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=LG388EjIwmnRE/vJMJE0apjUdCKzeapOUwUcQ6XFns4= c=1 sm=1 a=KfGq-mLK1qwA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=qYz8RHWopigd8QnFYCx1XA==:17 a=2nhGjAOeAAAA:8 a=HSWCTTXAAAAA:8 a=npx5NHmsAAAA:8 a=-KG3j4xFAAAA:8 a=bLmzTDcsAAAA:8 a=50Cz1CyOAAAA:8 a=5USR4_ZmiXDCpkPQwvUA:9 a=PTC1oCM365zqZqK2buEA:7 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=7D-7_bLXlE8A:10 a=EPQ08gsTE2cA:10 a=98forKxYaykA:10 a=Fgh9j3SzX-UpRJst0FQA:9 a=wO-H_vmdKo2NEN_mZKUA:7 a=qYz8RHWopigd8QnFYCx1XA==:117 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 19:00:19 -0400 (EDT) From: =?UTF8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: Subject: RE: Loops for y'all MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_224617_80302324.1304118019700" User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 41 X-Originating-IP: [68.118.35.162] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109271 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 23:00:20 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_224617_80302324.1304118019700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Really very nice Bro Daniel. I am listening at work and every track brings along something new. Thanks for sharin'. tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn Man is the only animal that can remain on friendly terms with the=20 victims he intends to eat until he eats them. =E2=80=93 Samuel Butler (1835= -=20 1902) http://www.pfmentum.com/PFMCD007.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://guitarplayer.com/article/y2k6-international-live/Jun-07/27768 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at Apple iTunes On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 1:31 PM, daniel wrote: Dearest Loop-Brethren, I recently released a new album of loops called "NOops." I've made it=20 free to download for y'all so please do and I hope you enjoy! http://danielharris.bandcamp.com/album/noops=20 Love, Daniel ------=_Part_224617_80302324.1304118019700 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Really very nice Bro Daniel.

I am listening at work an= d every track brings along something new.

Thanks for sharin'.

tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn
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Man is the only animal = that can remain on friendly terms with the victims he intends to eat until = he eats them. =E2=80=93 Samuel Butler (1835 - 1902)

http://www.pfmentum.com/PFMCD007= .html
http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/t= edkillian
http://www.guitar9.com= /fluxaeterna.html
http://www.ind= iejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193
http://guitarplayer.com/article/y2k6-international-liv= e/Jun-07/27768

Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at Apple iT= unes


On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 1:31 PM, daniel wrote:
 Dearest Loop-Brethren,

I recently released a new album of loops called &= quot;NOops." I've made it free to download for y'all so please do and = I hope you enjoy!



Love,
Daniel
------=_Part_224617_80302324.1304118019700-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 29 23:45:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D274A1834A5; Fri, 29 Apr 2011 23:45:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5dHQsZwW4tbMb843+0CXvkLYMieOaATTDoXGsz86q9Y=; b=H1YyHvND0mMItFa6wWQekawpG058rBObS2NnrJKqadJ0khjc36NK769cSHUmIUZRNt GnzM/1GjkfYRM+YnN21vdfmVN/bKY2/X0qAdmUyO456moTFbVef5KPbaGTEvn4opF9pw U799HNyGFkMg3Wur51oI/BPpr1kuSPM06VDPs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LgoE2F1jmYzXLcBIpUfsyNvmEjEPJ95ascumYmnO5l5Hn6Ma9ChL1DXzUrQ/gAAOSj DyslwT4MY3/zu9shZAcOsdvxj8NOCRUo+lnksBOBbGGBcFeGih9UlMnTQIrmkeFhwIJb uiovuHwbktsL3GqYJfNlgUADWNcTUcUkSl0bs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6703825214560937872@unknownmsgid> References: <4DA44526.3000905@cruzio.com> <50A0CC9E-06D6-47E0-8330-89FA05B166F4@mac.com> <6703825214560937872@unknownmsgid> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 16:45:43 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: korg monotron From: Lindsey Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109272 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 23:45:45 +0000 (UTC) I don't see the ribbon keyboard at all replacing individual keys, especially with it being so small. It's definately a different instrument. The mini trombone analogy is clever! There's nothing wrong with relying on your sense of pitch to compose on the spot. Using the Monotron as an effect could be really fun and solve the keyboard problem. Adding the Modular would make it even more versatile. Plus, everything being miniaturized appeals to my inner five-year-old who still likes dollhouses and tiny tea sets. Rick, I am so sad I haven't been able to perform the last two years. I plan for this year to be different. I am reminded of something I heard a writing teacher say about becoming a writer: "It takes a lot of heartbreak to earn your license as a writer, and boy can we drive!" I'm finding music is the same way. Lindsey On 4/13/11, mark francombe wrote: > Hey! Welcome Eric! > > > PS, this is my first post to the Looper's Delight. Its a delight to be a > looper and to be reading all this lovely cutting edge musical thinking that > goes on in y'all's heads. hehe Thanks for being... > > keep on creating... > -Eric > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 30 02:12:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D975F1834A9; Sat, 30 Apr 2011 02:12:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <822E875F-C6A3-47AE-A7A1-967166C4DEDC@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--595153021 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: portable PA for electronic looper Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 19:12:41 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109273 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 02:12:49 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--595153021 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit the two audio technicians that I know here have both strongly advised me against using active speakers (such as the Phonic P5A that Fabio recommends, or the Rokit speakers that Markus uses) - both expect that the tweeters would soon break because of the occasional high overtones and the strong dynamics that is inevitable when playing guitar. What do you think? Thats Sound advice :- )Though I use a pair of KRK rocket 8's in my studio and they deliver the goods, I'm just as worried about the vulnerabilty of both the drivers and tweeters to puncture injuries from transport or accidental falls as I am the tweeters blowing from huge transients such as a guitar produces. I've been using more self oscillating delay lately and I've gotta be careful with what is further along the signal path when I do that. A more robust "made for live" speaker would be a safer option I think. Bill --Apple-Mail-2--595153021 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable the two audio technicians = that I know here have both strongly advised me
against using active = speakers (such as the Phonic P5A that Fabio = recommends,
or the Rokit speakers that Markus uses) - both expect = that the tweeters
would soon break because of the occasional high = overtones and the strong
dynamics that is inevitable when playing guitar. What = do you think?

Thats Sound advice :- = )Though  I use a pair of KRK rocket 8's in my studio and they = deliver the goods, I'm just as worried about the vulnerabilty of both = the drivers and tweeters to puncture injuries from transport or = accidental falls as I am the tweeters blowing from huge transients such = as a guitar produces. I've been using more self oscillating delay lately = and I've gotta be careful with what is further along the signal path = when I do that. A more robust "made for live" speaker would be a safer = option I think. 
Bill
 
= --Apple-Mail-2--595153021-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 30 02:32:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA2AE1834A4; Sat, 30 Apr 2011 02:32:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com To: MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8F190) References: <822E875F-C6A3-47AE-A7A1-967166C4DEDC@baymoon.com> In-Reply-To: <822E875F-C6A3-47AE-A7A1-967166C4DEDC@baymoon.com> thread-topic: Stupidy thread-index: AcwG3rw94n392F8zRrWyxZhcll5OaQ== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-255--594019691"; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <75EF5D69-A9AB-48A9-B9D4-631AC82FE848@1800dialword.com> From: "Andy Owens" Subject: Stupidy Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 22:31:34 -0400 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Apr 2011 02:32:26.0596 (UTC) FILETIME=[D828CA40:01CC06DE] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109274 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 02:32:29 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-255--594019691 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sorry to the Walker boys for not-funniness the other day, keep me away from t= he computer when I am on pain pills!!! 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Also any suggestions of a good floor controller - i like my rocktron midimate. i own two of them. flexible, small, reliable, easy to program...and cheap. - jim --000e0cd591b460194904a21b429f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have no experience of software looping tools so wondered if anyone could = give some advice on what i might be able to use.

- sure.=A0 along wi= th what per said, i'd also recommend edpx/echoloop...whenever it finall= y comes out.=A0 great edp-style looper.=A0 i prefer it over mobius.=A0 but = between mobius and echoloop you should be able to tackle pretty much anythi= ng

but also to occasionally use a pre-recorded loop as a start point (poss= ibly not for sync as it might be a drone).

- dunno if echoloop allow= s you to load audio but there are so many way to trigger pre-recorded stuff= that it's kind of a non-issue.

Also any suggestions of a good floor controller

- i like my rock= tron midimate.=A0 i own two of them.=A0 flexible, small, reliable, easy to = program...and cheap.

- jim
--000e0cd591b460194904a21b429f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 30 08:31:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0AFF01834A9; Sat, 30 Apr 2011 08:31:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: Subject: RE: Loops for y'all Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 10:31:52 +0200 Message-ID: <289257608B1B40D6AEDDDAF0AE3F646A@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0052_01CC0721.D234E9A0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcwHDSGpL/Ka2T6GQ8amDNJgM8OPbQAA9biw In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6090 Resent-Message-ID: <8QHegC.A.1SE.-j8uNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109276 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 08:31:58 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0052_01CC0721.D234E9A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit wonderful, I love this album ! -Michael > I recently released a new album of loops called "NOops." I've made it free to download for y'all so please do and I hope you enjoy! > http://danielharris.bandcamp.com/album/noops ------=_NextPart_000_0052_01CC0721.D234E9A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
wonderful, I love this album !  =20 -Michael

 > I recently released a new = album of=20 loops called "NOops." I've made it free to download for y'all so = please do and=20 I hope you enjoy! 
 > http://danielharris= .bandcamp.com/album/noops 
 
= ------=_NextPart_000_0052_01CC0721.D234E9A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 30 10:41:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1ADF1834A9; Sat, 30 Apr 2011 10:41:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:mime-version:content-type:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=7f7sF0QGDJqWx2dPzCYSultEDJLPpZx5i1N7oQIuZCM=; b=o9fn9+HhesDVwoZQ0x7KOHY+bogM7twOnsZSZIjZcqk+Wacxs5mpHDpCpUoUeg9wzM MN2bD03ZGw4tRV5NZsCGEVNUgBKjs9SvzGH8EBIhvoV+aDWIG+18JQPoTf7vDIynOiK/ 3iNhmzzdpy1kcNiAYePlAZn/Btr6KEHGfmRAs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=khB04X2w5iq0zGlQ3RnqiLX7AcnIzbFE075APMgJFo6B1RZbiCnpmldh8ztcpLcUMj BUr/jyEFLxef3pd0onqyya4o5HxTxFQbXKFA4aF9sQm2/QzvIgVdoVnrnMAKsLDkQoJh +N12VBZJoyVUzSBT+WQ9HyV5f+DNE/dDK5XMQ= Subject: Re: Loops for y'all <--- Looping for Video Use? Anyone? Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--564338223 From: Christopher Darrow In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 03:46:16 -0700 Cc: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List Message-Id: <7E311B24-B781-4715-9334-8274056B3C12@gmail.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <8Fws1B.A.CbF.od-uNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109277 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 10:41:45 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--564338223 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Very nice Daniel. A few of these might work as background for video, = especially # 6 (so far.) To you and any other loopers out there who would like to volunteer their = music for video use, I say, I'd love to check it out! Most videos I do = are about art/artists in some way, so there's no budget unfortunatly, = but there is credit and web links, of course.=20 The one I'm currently working on is the Burning Man Regional Summit 2011 = and I'm down to the wire on it.=20 If you have an interest in seeing your work used, please send me links = to where I can download files and the terms under which you authorize = it's use, such as general use or case-by-case basis, whatever.=20 Either way, thanks for sharing! ---Christopher Darrow Synesthesia Studio www.SynStu.com www.WhyDocumentary.com On Apr 29, 2011, at 1:31 PM, daniel wrote: > Dearest Loop-Brethren,=20 >=20 > I recently released a new album of loops called "NOops." I've made it = free to download for y'all so please do and I hope you enjoy!=20 >=20 > http://danielharris.bandcamp.com/album/noops >=20 >=20 > Love, > Daniel=20 --Apple-Mail-1--564338223 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii www.SynStu.com



On Apr 29, 2011, at 1:31 PM, = daniel wrote:

Dearest Loop-Brethren,

I recently released a new = album of loops called "NOops." I've made it free to download for y'all = so please do and I hope you enjoy!

http://danielharris.= bandcamp.com/album/noops


Love,
Daniel

= --Apple-Mail-1--564338223-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 30 11:08:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 373CE1834AB; Sat, 30 Apr 2011 11:08:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=PD6pFMWUdLQLw5pJw4y2h6XNHVCbYPMXqPnYAfwm000=; b=SfsWYp8DmMhxLSz/wltzIs3AoyIZ5mWLTCj38cYIhW9Ygk+XMPdK6E44/CEtKtjx+H NgbBaNrItidDDgvzJEdv+7rXwjv/x047zKSYDpXO7wdMOcAu9Pm0eQ8fVgSdPIvWrg4V /uByYt0qbie7cslo697LZddQFnicm4+jrCDXY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=COb9OjXAmb/XN1H/wasz7Ys5Yfp6clm9/DD65D41gZmUVZXpdAEJoBKSWh/bSsYduO OQT2Q/QTe800DILQgWp1GNddTedyQ99wOg+JKP3KRESXiJk1yzYHfOfNstymbitpXSNb l9Cz+0vyUigF2wj30m6dLfJ41ULpk9irmc3a0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 13:08:11 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Loops for y'all From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3079ba12623b8004a220cea3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109278 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 11:08:13 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3079ba12623b8004a220cea3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Nice ! -f www.eterogeneo.com 2011/4/29 daniel > Dearest Loop-Brethren, > > I recently released a new album of loops called "NOops." I've made it free > to download for y'all so please do and I hope you enjoy! > > http://danielharris.bandcamp.com/album/noops > > > Love, > Daniel > --20cf3079ba12623b8004a220cea3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nice !
=A0
-f


=A0
2011/4/29 daniel <daniel@ithinkwethink.org>
Dearest Loop-Brethren,

I= recently released a new album of loops called "NOops." I've = made it free to download for y'all so please do and I hope you enjoy! <= br>
http://danielharris.bandcamp.com/album/noops


Love,
Daniel

--20cf3079ba12623b8004a220cea3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 30 17:23:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DBDFB1834A9; Sat, 30 Apr 2011 17:23:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=+ZmoX3Wy/uw4JHlG20TjAfhpf5CQ2VSK1h08+9obm4k=; b=iWYXgq4v+V1nYxcC/mDg0Zr5T9SoEQks7JjoRXcP/6izo7z+gNeN3RDs1AjtgMSuJ7 2cAkyMgWLK9id4fYUtcal6u/l6HG2Tx73MVacGhTHk5rmiUC5g8fn93ZNnhvW3gEWH+B GJK+nUJa/cElvV5LuTtGfjR/YG4GBYJAzXdQ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=uV56w9PCe+yUEpaAhKhpmfjyxsVDOW33OmPyefVTEZMW2RnVUONcWiSvj1aFum5g1O j5nmnOdn0XhG+0lXsV1l6p9poodazkte/0k0wTPq4MIRBQ7H36v4yD4WcpT/4rI8C3oF HS8/1myFsW6lON8W3nPPN+loZXHmc/pjOSPTs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: danielhlevine@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <7E311B24-B781-4715-9334-8274056B3C12@gmail.com> References: <7E311B24-B781-4715-9334-8274056B3C12@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 13:23:16 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: kreFDUnfw40RXajLIle6BFj6sMM Message-ID: Subject: Re: Loops for y'all <--- Looping for Video Use? Anyone? From: daniel To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151773e654bbc1c304a2260beb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109279 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 17:23:18 +0000 (UTC) --00151773e654bbc1c304a2260beb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey all, Thank you so much for all the great feedback!! Totally made my day! Here is another EP for free download: http://danielharris.bandcamp.com/album/in-the-head-syrup And a live set also for free: http://danielharris.bandcamp.com/track/lima-live-at-the-rose-art-museum Enjoy!! Daniel On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Christopher Darrow wrote: > > Very nice Daniel. A few of these might work as background for video, > especially # 6 (so far.) > > To you and any other loopers out there who would like to volunteer their > music for video use, I say, I'd love to check it out! Most videos I do are > about art/artists in some way, so there's no budget unfortunatly, but there > is credit and web links, of course. > > The one I'm currently working on is the Burning Man Regional Summit 2011 > and I'm down to the wire on it. > > If you have an interest in seeing your work used, please send me links to > where I can download files and the terms under which you authorize it's use, > such as general use or case-by-case basis, whatever. > > Either way, thanks for sharing! > > ---Christopher Darrow > Synesthesia Studio > www.SynStu.com > www.WhyDocumentary.com > > > > On Apr 29, 2011, at 1:31 PM, daniel wrote: > > Dearest Loop-Brethren, > > I recently released a new album of loops called "NOops." I've made it free > to download for y'all so please do and I hope you enjoy! > > http://danielharris.bandcamp.com/album/noops > > > Love, > Daniel > > > --00151773e654bbc1c304a2260beb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey all,

Thank you so much for all the great feedback!! Totally mad= e my day!

Here is another EP for free download: http://danielharris.bandca= mp.com/album/in-the-head-syrup
And a live set also for free: http://danielharris.bandcamp.com/tra= ck/lima-live-at-the-rose-art-museum

Enjoy!!
Daniel

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Christopher Dar= row <thedarrow@= gmail.com> wrote:

Very nice Daniel. A= few of these might work as background for video, especially # 6 (so far.)<= /div>

To you and any other loopers out there who would l= ike to volunteer their music for video use, I say, I'd love to check it= out! Most videos I do are about art/artists in some way, so there's no= budget unfortunatly, but there is credit and web links, of course.=A0

The one I'm currently working on is the Burning Man= Regional Summit 2011 and I'm down to the wire on it.=A0

=
If you have an interest in seeing your work used, please send me= links to where I can download files and the terms under which you authoriz= e it's use, such as general use or case-by-case basis, whatever.=A0

Either way, thanks for sharing!

---Christopher Darrow
=A0=A0 =A0Synesthesia Studio
= =A0=A0 =A0www.SynStu.co= m



On A= pr 29, 2011, at 1:31 PM, daniel wrote:

D= earest Loop-Brethren,

I recently released a new album of loops called "NOops." I= 9;ve made it free to download for y'all so please do and I hope you enj= oy!

http://danielharris.bandcamp.com/album/noops


Love,
Daniel


--00151773e654bbc1c304a2260beb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 30 21:49:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47FF41834A9; Sat, 30 Apr 2011 21:49:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Loops for y'all Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 17:49:35 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 151.201.60.223 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: michael klobuchar X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33636-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CDD597A19BCC2D-1C64-1E37A@webmail-d094.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/109280 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 21:49:47 +0000 (UTC) thanks daniel!!!!!